From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Feb 1 03:59:27 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 02:59:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <1359716367.52994.YahooMailNeo@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> http://www.cabrinivillashoa.com/wp-content/themes/Memoir/eopalsk.html ====================== Michael MacLean From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 12:54:58 2013 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:54:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] For You Left Coasters... Message-ID: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/3588670240.html -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From pvanwig at mac.com Sat Feb 2 13:06:55 2013 From: pvanwig at mac.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:06:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome shops Message-ID: <25F19C2C-90DA-4E6D-91F5-1E5145E13AF9@mac.com> A friend of mine is looking for a chrome shop in the areas close to Big Bear Lake, CA Any one got some shops in the town just of the hill? Paul Van Wig Big Bear/Long Beach, CA pvanwigatmacdotcom facebook.com/pvanwig You Can't stay young forever. But you can be immature for the rest of your life! 1959 Nash Metropolitan (the wife's fun ride) 1968 Morris Minor Woody RHD 1960 Bug Eye (awaiting restoration) 1980 CJ7 Lives @ 7440' 2012 Turbo Diesel Ram 2500 4X4 2003 Toyota 4Runner (the wife's Mountain car) 2012 Cadillac SRX 3.6 (the wife's work ride) 1958 Minor-wrecked 1960 Minor Woody project (for sale soon) 1965 Midget-parts 1981 Datsun 210 1500 w/ 5 speed From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sat Feb 2 17:54:28 2013 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 00:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge Message-ID: <1331099069.731371.1359852868216.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Years ago the first time I brought my barely running 74 midget to Frank he replaced my stock '74 dual oil and water gauge wiht another one.B But the other one, he told m e, had a different lighting system and so my stockB lights wouldn't work.B At that time I didn't care he took what was a very scary driving car and turned it into my ever present perma- shit eatin- grin application device.B But now some 5? years later I would like to see what that gauge says at night or at least eliminate the very noticible dark spot on my dash. So my question is what do you think he put in there and how can i get it to light up? Thanks ryan and yes I know I could just buy from someone on the list another gauge but the fear of buying one that has had the magic fluid l eaked out is a concern. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 18:07:49 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:07:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Little Car, but no LBC Message-ID: Any UK or Canadian listers have any knowledge of the Mercedes Smart diesel? One has ended up in Texas, and I want to ask some questions about the engine, dependability, etc... TIA, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Feb 2 18:34:26 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 20:34:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge In-Reply-To: <1331099069.731371.1359852868216.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1331099069.731371.1359852868216.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6798142AF87349E5AC9F6FBF8240ECF9@blackbox2> Ryan, Assuming the Prince of Darkness is not holding some personal vendetta against you, then you should be able to get some kind of light going inside that guage. At the very least you could pull the gauge and drill a small hole in the back sufficient for a white LED with a current limiting resistor (about 500 ohms) in series with it. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:54 PM To: EasternOshitGroup; spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge Years ago the first time I brought my barely running 74 midget to Frank he replaced my stock '74 dual oil and water gauge wiht another one.B But the other one, he told m e, had a different lighting system and so my stockB lights wouldn't work.B At that time I didn't care he took what was a very scary driving car and turned it into my ever present perma- shit eatin- grin application device.B But now some 5? years later I would like to see what that gauge says at night or at least eliminate the very noticible dark spot on my dash. So my question is what do you think he put in there and how can i get it to light up? Thanks ryan From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 09:31:36 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:31:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] For Sale- my 1973 Midget project car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree is anyone on the list from the Dallas area that can help out Billy? The car looks very solid and those wheels look great Billy. Good luck either way. Lin On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:58 PM, wrote: > A 1275cc crank and rods are probably worth US$250 maybe a lot more so be > sure you get a realistic value for the car. > > However, its a pity you can't have an OSHIT to get the car back on the > road. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 31/01/2013 06:02:13 GMT Standard Time, > billyj at txjames.com writes: > > I've had this 1973 project car for about 4 years but I've been without > an income for the past few years and won't be able to complete it > anytime soon. > > This car was given to my father by one of his customers and sat behind > his shop for awhile. The previous owner said that the car was running > when they stopped driving it. I brought it home and started working on it. > > The car was complete when I got it except for a battery. Belts, hoses, > tires, exhaust, folding top cloth and seat upholstery are in bad > condition. I had the wheels sandblasted and repainted, and bought new > tires and tubes. I bought another pair of seats that had good > upholstery, some replacement carpet pieces and some spare tailights and > such. I took a lot of photographs of my disassembly so I could get the > wires and linkages and so forth back in place. The photos don t show the > hood but I have the hood and grille inside my house. > > I discovered that the engine would not rotate so I eventually pulled the > engine out and disassembled it. I found water on top of a couple of the > pistons and they were frozen in the cylinders. My plan was to either > bore the block and buy oversize rings and pistons, or find another block > and buy new standard pistons. > > The car is in my garage in Dallas. Email me off list if you have > questions or want more information or photos. I don't know what a proper > price is but I'll start at $500 OBRO. > > http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/Cars/Dsc_0016b.jpg > > http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/Cars/Dsc_0014b.jpg > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 10:26:05 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:26:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Car shipping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My 62 Sprite Pinky arrived via DAS "Dependable Auto Shipper" or as Frank would probably say UASS for Undependable Auto ShipperS and the rear section under the boot was dented badly which Frank so kindly banged out with a hammer till I could work on it. They lost the front vintage California license plate and ripped off the exhaust pipe. Their insurance company came to look at it and said off the record that DAS transports thousands of cars and will not do anything about a small job like mine. I was so excited about the arrival of the car and my first eBay transport from Los Angeles I signed the receipt when she arrived instead of refusal which meant I had no chance at damage payment..: ( Day she arrived from local transporter April 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBCQOi3juzo Frank soon after adjusting carbs before he rebuilt them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CSBIvnw5qk Lin On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Gerard wrote: > I had great results shipping a Morris Minor to Spokane with these people. > Quick response, good communication, very reasonable rates and no issues on > pickup or delivery. I even lucked out and got a closed carrier for the open > carrier price. > > Contact Stephanie at: > > stephanie at bestrateautotransport.com > > Gerard > > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:25:23 -0500 > > From: Tncarnut1 > > To: Edward Perez , Rick Fisk > > , "spridgets at autox.team.net" > > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car shipping > > Message-ID: <6px4cauw4ii3vwrtvwsojgky.1359491123740 at email.android.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Oh crap... thanks Edward. I did in fact mean Allied... I apologize to any > Atlas folks or fans out there! Glad I wrote the 'orange' part of that > message! > > > > David Booker > > > >> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. > > > > Edward Perez wrote: > > > > "Stay away from the Orange truck people!" > > > > I thought Atlas was blue and Allied > > was orange?B Just sayin'.... > > > > > > > > Edward Perez > > Summerville, SC > > 78 Midget (1275) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 10:38:26 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:38:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. Message-ID: I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & post on youtube wether or not it works. Enjoy the show. Lin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 12:17:51 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:17:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. Message-ID: Lin - thanks for posting, sort of takes the "magic" factor out of it doesn't it? From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 13:38:16 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:38:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Original early Midget on ebay. Message-ID: List I chatted with the owner of this early Midget on ebay today and yes it is the original paint. Way out of my league $$$ but wish it was near by to get some archival shots of it. He is not on the list but I gave him the info if he is interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-1963-MkI-MG-Midget-Excellent-original-rare-condition-/330867844801?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d0942a6c1#ht_962wt_1167 Lin From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 14:59:43 2013 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:59:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Problem is the the lack of access to allow the off dolly hammering. Good explanation on the video. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it > again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll > be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I > believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and > backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't > have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said > that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, > wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this > demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & > post on youtube wether or not it works. > Enjoy the show. > Lin > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Feb 3 15:19:32 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:19:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgetly drive Message-ID: <15c0.3f463f9.3e403c74@aol.com> Out for a drive in the Sprite today since it's been parked in the garage for 3 weeks and due one. I passed a Suburu Impreza who didn't seem like he was in a hurry until I passed him (or the speed limits changed from a 40 mph to a 70 mph?). Anyway as I hoofed the Sprite he did likewise and never moved back in my rear view mirror, even though I was changing up later than usual. I used 4th (1:1) gear (car is a 5 speed) to 6.1K maybe 6.15/6.2K - 175/70 x 13 tyres on a 3.9 diff - which came up surprisingly quick from 3rd though I suppose I did do 80 in 3rd (close ratio box) - you do the math. After that I moved over! Somebody else officer, From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Feb 3 16:24:39 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:24:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgetly drive In-Reply-To: <15c0.3f463f9.3e403c74@aol.com> References: <15c0.3f463f9.3e403c74@aol.com> Message-ID: <9CD97BDE-B3B5-4173-AA9E-A502ECBADBF0@chartermi.net> Daniel, I'm surprised you talk mph. Don't you guys use kph over there? Or are you making a concession for us backwards colonists? :-) No matter how you measure it, it sounds like a fun ride. My Midget was put away for the winter a couple of months ago. 19 degrees Fahrenheit here today (we don't understand Celsius either) and slippery roads. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 5:19 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Out for a drive in the Sprite today since it's been parked in the garage > for 3 weeks and due one. > > I passed a Suburu Impreza who didn't seem like he was in a hurry until I > passed him (or the speed limits changed from a 40 mph to a 70 mph?). Anyway > as I hoofed the Sprite he did likewise and never moved back in my rear > view mirror, even though I was changing up later than usual. I used 4th (1:1) > gear (car is a 5 speed) to 6.1K maybe 6.15/6.2K - 175/70 x 13 tyres on a > 3.9 diff - which came up surprisingly quick from 3rd though I suppose I did > do 80 in 3rd (close ratio box) - you do the math. After that I moved over! > > Somebody else officer, > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Feb 3 16:26:58 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:26:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F67C5F8-C545-400D-860D-B65B5B03486A@chartermi.net> Tough to get a dolly in the a-post. I was surprised by the amount of crud that fell out when the guy in the video removed the outer sheet metal. Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Problem is the the lack of access to allow the off dolly hammering. > > Good explanation on the video. > > > > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it >> again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll >> be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I >> believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and >> backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't >> have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said >> that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, >> wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this >> demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & >> post on youtube wether or not it works. >> Enjoy the show. >> Lin >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Feb 3 16:27:57 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:27:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Original early Midget on ebay. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43EA5F01-3DA4-488B-BA76-E6638C471A60@chartermi.net> The car looks good, but isn't it missing the trim strip across the front of the bonnet? Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List I chatted with the owner of this early Midget on ebay today and yes it > is the original paint. Way out of my league $$$ but wish it was near by to > get some archival shots of it. He is not on the list but I gave him the > info if he is interested. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-1963-MkI-MG-Midget-Excellent-original -rare-condition-/330867844801?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d0942a6c1#ht_962wt_ 1167 > > Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 4 11:11:35 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:11:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgetly drive Message-ID: <189a9.3237208e.3e4153d7@aol.com> Nope, everything else is metric like millimetres and metres but our road signs are still in yards and miles and car speedos in mph. In a message dated 03/02/2013 23:24:40 GMT Standard Time, refisk at chartermi.net writes: Daniel, I'm surprised you talk mph. Don't you guys use kph over there? Or are you making a concession for us backwards colonists? :-) No matter how you measure it, it sounds like a fun ride. My Midget was put away for the winter a couple of months ago. 19 degrees Fahrenheit here today (we don't understand Celsius either) and slippery roads. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 5:19 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Out for a drive in the Sprite today since it's been parked in the garage > for 3 weeks and due one. > > I passed a Suburu Impreza who didn't seem like he was in a hurry until I > passed him (or the speed limits changed from a 40 mph to a 70 mph?). Anyway > as I hoofed the Sprite he did likewise and never moved back in my rear > view mirror, even though I was changing up later than usual. I used 4th (1:1) > gear (car is a 5 speed) to 6.1K maybe 6.15/6.2K - 175/70 x 13 tyres on a > 3.9 diff - which came up surprisingly quick from 3rd though I suppose I did > do 80 in 3rd (close ratio box) - you do the math. After that I moved over! > > Somebody else officer, From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Mon Feb 4 13:08:59 2013 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 12:08:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lin, Good technique. I'm an another forum with a number of Kiwis, so I learned about the slapper a few years ago. There a re a LOT of great old British cars there, so plenty to keep them busy with panel beating. I have always repaired panels this way, but still learned a couple new tricks. You won't be able to use this technique on your A-post though because that's a closed panel and no way to get behind the dent with a dolly. Your best bet is to use a "nail gun" which is professional tool that welds little spikes or nails to the dent. You then use a special slide hammer to pull out the dent. It does require removing all the paint from the surface where the nails go and will require some filler since you can't use the dolly. http://www.hotrod.com/howto/hrdp_0607_dents/photo_23.html Gerard On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:38:26 -0500 > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm > trying it in the spring on Pinky. > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it > again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll > be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I > believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and > backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't > have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said > that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, > wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this > demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & > post on youtube wether or not it works. > Enjoy the show. > Lin > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA From d.swanson at earthlink.net Mon Feb 4 18:24:35 2013 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:24:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Light for oil and temp gauge Message-ID: <78FE3B8FDF8E4CD289225EFBE7200537@HomeComputer> Ryan, Assuming your replacement gauge is a Smith's, then I think there are two different ways they are lit: 1) External Bulb - Slots around the O.D. of the case: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290851529420 2) Internal Bulb - Bulb inserted into the rear of the gauge: http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/MG-Car-Repair-3786/2011/04/Smiths-Dual-Gauge.jpg If you shine a flashlight up under your dash and the gauge lights then it is probably the external bulb type. Depending which type you have I'm sure someone on the board can probably fix you up with the proper bulb holder. -----Original Message----- Subject: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge Years ago the first time I brought my barely running 74 midget to Frank he replaced my stock '74 dual oil and water gauge wiht another one. But the other one, he told m e, had a different lighting system and so my stock lights wouldn't work. At that time I didn't care he took what was a very scary driving car and turned it into my ever present perma- shit eatin- grin application device. But now some 5? years later I would like to see what that gauge says at night or at least eliminate the very noticible dark spot on my dash. So my question is what do you think he put in there and how can i get it to light up? Thanks ryan and yes I know I could just buy from someone on the list another gauge but the fear of buying one that has had the magic fluid l eaked out is a concern. ------------------------ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 4 18:29:15 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:29:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values Message-ID: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> I was forced recently to file multiple theft complaints against someone who has stolen several Spridget parts from me. The detective handling the case has asked for values of parts that were stolen. I would appreciate some input from you on the values of: #1 a complete set of working gauges from a 1972 Midget #2 a windshield and frame from a 1972 Midget and #3 a metal bonnet from a Bugeye. I have a pretty good handle on the values of the rest of the parts and the Bugeye car that he stole. I gave the detective an initial guess at $200 for the gauges, another $200 for the windshield and frame and about $1000 for a steel bonnet (minus a couple hundred for a dented front right corner). At least one of these parts went to another lister a few years ago. I know who it was, it will be interesting to see if he speaks up. I know where another went, too. If anybody else has bought or was given parts from the 1972 Midget known as bMickeyb that David Lieb and Biff took on the Babe Rally a few years back or from a Bugeye in WI that was being held waiting for repair work by another WI lister, please let me know. I am not interested in causing you any trouble, but I need to know where the parts went and the circumstances involved. You will not be in any trouble whatsoever if you speak up. You did nothing wrong. David Lieb, I know you had a nearly brand new clutch set-up that went missing from that car, too. If you or I find out where it went and who sent it there, I will give you the name of the detective who is handling the case in the event you want to take action, as well. Anybody with information is welcome to contact me privately off list. Again, anybody who received parts is in no trouble at all as long as they are not in collusion with the person that stole them from me and they cooperate in the investigation. Thanks, Larry Daniels From abcoz at hky.com Mon Feb 4 19:55:46 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:55:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values In-Reply-To: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> Message-ID: <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> Larry, I think a working set of gauges might be worth a bit more, when you look at what it would cost to just repair (not restore) a set of non-working gauges. I paid West Valley Instruments $700 to rebuild a complete set of instruments for a '77 B a couple of years ago. You can bet Nisonger would be higher than that. Figure $100-$125 each to redo the speedo and tach. Probably that much to redo the combination gauge and maybe $50 to do the gas gauge. Windshields, on the other hand, always seem to show up at Import Carlisle priced around $200, but then get "reduced" over the course of the weekend to $150, then $100 before someone buys them. Of course, I guess if someone NEEDS a windshield, they'd pay $200 for one, locally. Steel Bugeye bonnets, in decent (non-rusted) shape are getting really scarce, so I wouldn't knock a dime off that $1000 price just for a few dents. If it's solid, most guys who need one would be glad to find it. There's a big difference in value between parts being purchased just to have on the shelf and parts purchased because they are NEEDED. Best of luck to you, Larry. Hope you nail the bastard! Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:29 PM To: Bugeye Sprites; Bugeye Yahoo Group; Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values I was forced recently to file multiple theft complaints against someone who has stolen several Spridget parts from me. The detective handling the case has asked for values of parts that were stolen. I would appreciate some input from you on the values of: #1 a complete set of working gauges from a 1972 Midget #2 a windshield and frame from a 1972 Midget and #3 a metal bonnet from a Bugeye. I have a pretty good handle on the values of the rest of the parts and the Bugeye car that he stole. I gave the detective an initial guess at $200 for the gauges, another $200 for the windshield and frame and about $1000 for a steel bonnet (minus a couple hundred for a dented front right corner). At least one of these parts went to another lister a few years ago. I know who it was, it will be interesting to see if he speaks up. I know where another went, too. If anybody else has bought or was given parts from the 1972 Midget known as bMickeyb that David Lieb and Biff took on the Babe Rally a few years back or from a Bugeye in WI that was being held waiting for repair work by another WI lister, please let me know. I am not interested in causing you any trouble, but I need to know where the parts went and the circumstances involved. You will not be in any trouble whatsoever if you speak up. You did nothing wrong. David Lieb, I know you had a nearly brand new clutch set-up that went missing from that car, too. If you or I find out where it went and who sent it there, I will give you the name of the detective who is handling the case in the event you want to take action, as well. Anybody with information is welcome to contact me privately off list. Again, anybody who received parts is in no trouble at all as long as they are not in collusion with the person that stole them from me and they cooperate in the investigation. Thanks, Larry Daniels From johnsfolly at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 21:57:17 2013 From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 23:57:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates Message-ID: Larry, Look for my email off list. JohnD *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:29:15 -0600 From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bugeye Sprites" , "Bugeye Yahoo Group" , "Spridgets List" Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values Message-ID: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772 at HomePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -- From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 7 09:24:11 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:24:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] test Message-ID: Have things been that slow? From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 10:04:41 2013 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:04:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. -T On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Lester Ewing wrote: > ** > > > Have things been that slow? > > __._,_.___ > Reply via web post Reply > to sender Reply to group > Start a New Topic Messages > in this topic(5) > Recent Activity: > > > Visit Your Group > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye Sprite > Club, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of > the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any > emails. > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > Switch to: Text-Only, > Daily Digest > Unsubscribe  Terms > of Use  Send us Feedback > > . > > __,_._,___ From rich_ball at mindspring.com Thu Feb 7 11:19:25 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:19:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> Message-ID: <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From peter at nosimport.com Thu Feb 7 11:23:47 2013 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:23:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20130207182346.00608F4412F@mx2.netinteraction.com> Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved. No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet. The 2.5 was the bigger concern. Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 12:31:40 2013 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:31:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <1360265500.80884.YahooMailNeo@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Rich, My wife(ex now) and I bought a brand new '95 Legacy wagon a few weeks before Kyle was born. The 2.2L engine is bullet-proof, the car is great, the seats were firm, we could get dog and kid and camping stuff galore in it, the hill-holder clutch was appreciated by my wife in the rolling hills of Northern Virginia. I liked the British Racing Green paint too. Probably the best family car I've ever bought. The only thing I would ever do is hang a turbo or two on it because they are painfully slow. My wife told me in no uncertain terms that if I did any hot-rodding to "her" car, she would never set foot in it again. You see, she had some experience with a car or two of mine where the engine was tuned just shy of hand-grenade... Anyway - to your questions. The belt is critical as it is an interferance engine. It is also one big giant belt. This is the only car with a belt where I actually paid somebody to do the change for me. I read the instructions and got a little scared for some reason. The waterpump you do because you have to pull it off to get to the belt and it would just not be smart to put the old one back on. Can't remember exactly, but seems like the schedule says 60k miles for the belt change. I had it done twice. Drove the car for maybe 130k miles and never had any trouble with either head gasket so can't really speak to that. I think mine was DOHC, but Subaru went back to SOHC a year or two later. Maybe there was an issue with some of them, but never with ours. After many happy years, I sold it to a guy who worked for me. His wife drove it for many years after that with zero troubles. The one thing that went wrong with the car during my ownership was my own fault. After maybe 6 years, the battery started getting weak. For whatever reason, I just kept charging it and putting off buying a new one. Of course, the constant state of charge killed the alternator. Crap. Like I said, my own fault entirely. I will say that the alternator on that car is the world's simplest and quickest to change. It is on top and front of the engine and held on with a few easily reached bolts. You don't even need to loosen a tensioner. Hope that helps. Ours was not an outback, but in '95 - Outback was just paint and trim options - plus maybe a little more ground clearance. Otherwise the same car. Excellent choice. David Booker From: Richard Ball To: 'Spridgets List' Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Feb 7 12:48:30 2013 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:48:30 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Message-ID: <20130207.124830.8433.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Ditto here with the dead cat, Bumper sticker in Nederland: Nederland-A dog in every Subaru. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback, I've had MANY friends, acquaintances, etc that have had BAD luck with the head gaskets on every year, They've done something with the later ones, 2010 on I've been told, but wouldn't flush MY money down that rathole! I've got LBC's to Feed!! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 From: "Richard Ball" Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/511405598a3405594434st02duc From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 12:51:32 2013 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:51:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <1360266692.21229.YahooMailNeo@web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Rich, Head gasket problems with certain Subaru years are a known problem and can be an expensive fix if you don't do it yourself. 26 pages of Subie HG issues here: http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/88-head-gasket-issues/index2.html Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: 'Spridgets List' Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Feb 7 13:22:02 2013 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:22:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) At 01:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/thcollin at mtu.edu Tim Collins From rich_ball at mindspring.com Thu Feb 7 13:40:10 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:40:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <201302071521.1u3xYH1qj3Nl3qa0@aaron.mail.atl.earthlink.net> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> <201302071521.1u3xYH1qj3Nl3qa0@aaron.mail.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0DFB85AE796B42B7A9FFA06B703E9CA8@RichandSusanPC> Tim, While I can understand you point of view and as a side note my wife and I try to have our taxes come out as close to zero as possible, that's not the case for my son Adam and his family. In my sons case they qualify for the earned income tax credit for their two kids and his annual income. I'm not one to defend the US tax code; I'm just saying that they aren't using Uncle Sam as a savings account. _____ From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:22 PM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) At 01:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/thcollin at mtu.edu Tim Collins From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 7 13:58:49 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:58:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <0DFB85AE796B42B7A9FFA06B703E9CA8@RichandSusanPC> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> <201302071521.1u3xYH1qj3Nl3qa0@aaron.mail.atl.earthlink.net> <0DFB85AE796B42B7A9FFA06B703E9CA8@RichandSusanPC> Message-ID: <794C3C9A-4767-4875-A196-FBAE2AA92744@comcast.net> Richard, you do understand that the Earned Income Credit is actually cash given to poorly paid parents. In other words anyone earning money and paying in is giving anyone with the EIC cash. A pure handout. When it's needed it's great for the folks receiving it but to say that they are getting a tax refund is misleading. The US Government is giving them money. Period. More power to them, I would rather that my taxes go to some good purpose than many others but please fully understand what's happening. Lester On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:40 10PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Tim, > > > > While I can understand you point of view and as a side note my wife and I > try to have our taxes come out as close to zero as possible, that's not the > case for my son Adam and his family. In my sons case they qualify for the > earned income tax credit for their two kids and his annual income. I'm not > one to defend the US tax code; I'm just saying that they aren't using Uncle > Sam as a savings account. > > > > ____ > > From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:22 PM > To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info > > > > It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." > > I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your > money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said > one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around > at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I > guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your > money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed > return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 14:14:01 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:14:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <20130207.124830.8433.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> References: <20130207.124830.8433.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1360271641.62780.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I would ditto the sentiments against the Outback. I bought one showroom new and had the head gasket blow at 32k miles. The dealer said the recall only covers "exterior leakage." Mine was "interior," meaning it leaked into the cylinders and block. I guess external means it just blows the water out of the head. Dunno. It was a load of crap. They actually cut the repair bill in half ( to a little over $800), replaced the timing belt and head gasket. Shortly thereafter, it developed a leak in the rear cargo area and it began to mold. Again, the dealer wouldn't do a thing. "Must be a clogged gutter.." Drove the car to the dealership and traded up for and Audi A6 wagon. Much better!! Tell the to spend the extra $$ and get a good used Audi A6. I loved driving mine in the NW. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Mark Haynes To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Ditto here with the dead cat, Bumper sticker in Nederland: Nederland-A dog in every Subaru. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback, I've had MANY friends, acquaintances, etc that have had BAD luck with the head gaskets on every year, They've done something with the later ones, 2010 on I've been told, but wouldn't flush MY money down that rathole! I've got LBC's to Feed!! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 From: "Richard Ball" Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/511405598a3405594434st02duc ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From rich_ball at mindspring.com Thu Feb 7 14:46:27 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:46:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <794C3C9A-4767-4875-A196-FBAE2AA92744@comcast.net> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC><0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com><51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu><201302071521.1u3xYH1qj3Nl3qa0@aaron.mail.atl.earthlink.net><0DFB85AE796B42B7A9FFA06B703E9CA8@RichandSusanPC> <794C3C9A-4767-4875-A196-FBAE2AA92744@comcast.net> Message-ID: <825F9821A09E471E944937C0C5F56705@RichandSusanPC> Thanks Lester, Yeah, I was playing a little loose with the term refund but I hear what your saying. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Ewing Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:59 PM To: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Richard, you do understand that the Earned Income Credit is actually cash given to poorly paid parents. In other words anyone earning money and paying in is giving anyone with the EIC cash. A pure handout. When it's needed it's great for the folks receiving it but to say that they are getting a tax refund is misleading. The US Government is giving them money. Period. More power to them, I would rather that my taxes go to some good purpose than many others but please fully understand what's happening. Lester On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:40 10PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Tim, > > > > While I can understand you point of view and as a side note my wife and I > try to have our taxes come out as close to zero as possible, that's not the > case for my son Adam and his family. In my sons case they qualify for the > earned income tax credit for their two kids and his annual income. I'm not > one to defend the US tax code; I'm just saying that they aren't using Uncle > Sam as a savings account. > > > > ____ > > From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:22 PM > To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info > > > > It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." > > I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your > money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said > one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around > at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I > guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your > money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed > return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From rich_ball at mindspring.com Thu Feb 7 14:54:58 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:54:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: <20130207182346.00608F4412F@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> <20130207182346.00608F4412F@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <7CD47CE89267424EA0717E4D20025473@RichandSusanPC> Thanks Peter, So it sounds like cars that have had the HG replaced have a few years left in them. It also sounds like with any car we have those that had good luck and bad, I'll have my son Adam look through the Outback forum so he can get an idea of what to expect. I'll go through it also since I end up doing all their car work. I make him help and teach him what I can, but it just has never been something that interested him. There is one maintenance thing he likes to do on cars that I have never understood. He likes to R & R the brakes. A dirty messy job, but for some reason he likes to do it so I encourage him and try to have the brake job lead to other things. He is good at his job as a building maintenance tech though. Thanks Everyone Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:24 AM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved. No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet. The 2.5 was the bigger concern. Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 15:52:43 2013 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:52:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Message-ID: Wow. Sounds like I'm the only one here who had a positive experience with his Legacy. It really was a great car except for the lack of acceleration. >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Richard Ball wrote: Thanks Peter, So it sounds like cars that have had the HG replaced have a few years left in them. It also sounds like with any car we have those that had good luck and bad, I'll have my son Adam look through the Outback forum so he can get an idea of what to expect.B I'll go through it also since I end up doing all their car work.B I make him help and teach him what I can, but it just has never been something that interested him. There is one maintenance thing he likes to do on cars that I have never understood.B He likes to R & R the brakes.B A dirty messy job, but for some reason he likes to do it so I encourage him and try to have the brake job lead to other things.B He is good at his job as a building maintenance tech though. Thanks Everyone Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:24 AM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved.B No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet.B The 2.5 was the bigger concern. B B B B B B B B Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car.B Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan.B They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem.B If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 7 16:32:38 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:32:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] PC trouble - Gigabyte H77N motherboard - No LBC Message-ID: Hi list, Just purchased a new motherboard and case to for my wife to replace the board she managed to kill (on the video) and a new case as the old one was ancient and not very well ventilated (linked to board death). Also installed W7 on it. I've had better installs (board had a bios I'd never seen before) and once I'd managed to get of XP from the hard drive and complete the W7 installation everything was ok. Of course the board needs the board specific graphic driver, sound driver (I guess) and eventually wi-fi install. After the first install everything the PC failed to re-boot and showed a blue screen of death. After a few more re-boots I gave and up reinstalled W7. Everything now ok and no problem with several cold re-boots. I then only installed 3 or 4 of the motherboard software drivers/applications. PC then failed to reboot, BSOD etc. Reinstalled W7 and PC boots up ok so I'm confident something on the motherboard software is the issue. I've googled the board name and not found any reported software faults so welcome any advice - such as how to get a better video driver by itself etc etc. Weslake-Monza 1330 From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Feb 7 17:39:57 2013 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:39:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] PC trouble - Gigabyte H77N motherboard - No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1717769395.20130207163957@pacifier.com> Hello WeslakeMonza1330, after a very little research, I couldn't find anything about the video chip other than that it is motherboard specific. If it were me, I would get an NVIDIA chipset video board. you can get pretty good ones for about $100 or so. my 2" -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" I don't have a solution, but I admire the problem. From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Feb 7 17:46:50 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:46:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the Midget into a Bugeye. Montana Bob On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be > driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. > > -T From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 17:59:14 2013 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:59:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test In-Reply-To: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> References: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> Message-ID: Unfortunately, the high tomorrow is only going to be 46F. Probably have to put the top back up for the morning drive. But I have a bigger problem. I fixed the underground dog fence today. It has been broken for about 6 months. Apparently, the dog got herself shocked and now she is frozen in fear by the garage door. She has been there for about six hours. -T On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) > > Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the > Midget into a Bugeye. > > Montana Bob > > > > On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > >> Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be >> driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. >> >> -T >> > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie at gmail.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Feb 7 18:06:40 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:06:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test In-Reply-To: References: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> Message-ID: <51144FA0.70000@wi.net> That happened to a friend of mine and he had to carry the dog across the boundary (or where ever you want the dog to go) a few times before it got the idea that all was well. Dave W. On 2/7/2013 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Unfortunately, the high tomorrow is only going to be 46F. Probably have to > put the top back up for the morning drive. > > But I have a bigger problem. I fixed the underground dog fence today. It > has been broken for about 6 months. Apparently, the dog got herself > shocked and now she is frozen in fear by the garage door. She has been > there for about six hours. > > -T > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > >> Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) >> >> Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the >> Midget into a Bugeye. >> >> Montana Bob >> >> >> >> On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: >> >>> Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be >>> driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. >>> >>> -T >>> >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie at gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 7 18:22:35 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:22:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Wow...forgot about that. Yeah, it was rather gutless too! Go with the mini van! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Tncarnut1 To: Richard Ball ; 'Peter Caldwell' ; 'Spridgets List' Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Wow. Sounds like I'm the only one here who had a positive experience with his Legacy. It really was a great car except for the lack of acceleration. >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Richard Ball wrote: Thanks Peter, So it sounds like cars that have had the HG replaced have a few years left in them. It also sounds like with any car we have those that had good luck and bad, I'll have my son Adam look through the Outback forum so he can get an idea of what to expect.B I'll go through it also since I end up doing all their car work.B I make him help and teach him what I can, but it just has never been something that interested him. There is one maintenance thing he likes to do on cars that I have never understood.B He likes to R & R the brakes.B A dirty messy job, but for some reason he likes to do it so I encourage him and try to have the brake job lead to other things.B He is good at his job as a building maintenance tech though. Thanks Everyone Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:24 AM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved.B No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet.B The 2.5 was the bigger concern. B B B B B B B B Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car.B Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan.B They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem.B If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From lotuspilot at frontier.com Fri Feb 8 05:36:31 2013 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:36:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test In-Reply-To: <51144FA0.70000@wi.net> References: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> <51144FA0.70000@wi.net> Message-ID: <1360326991.95517.YahooMailNeo@web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> It sounds really mean! I feel bad for the pup. Why not just put in a regular fence? The life and happiness of that pup is more value than any person in todays screwed-up world. Mike ________________________________ From: dwoerpel To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test That happened to a friend of mine and he had to carry the dog across the boundary (or where ever you want the dog to go) a few times before it got the idea that all was well. Dave W. On 2/7/2013 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Unfortunately, the high tomorrow is only going to be 46F. Probably have to > put the top back up for the morning drive. > > But I have a bigger problem. I fixed the underground dog fence today. It > has been broken for about 6 months. Apparently, the dog got herself > shocked and now she is frozen in fear by the garage door. She has been > there for about six hours. > > -T > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > >> Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) >> >> Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the >> Midget into a Bugeye. >> >> Montana Bob >> >> >> >> On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: >> >>> Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be >>> driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. >>> >>> -T From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Fri Feb 8 07:43:56 2013 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:43:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] PC trouble - Gigabyte H77N motherboard - No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201302081444.r18Ei43C010840@mail.usimperio.com> On board video usually leaves a lot to be desired. I always go with an ATI video card so I can hook up my OptiShot golf simulator. Nvidia works but the graphics are slower to respond. Dave At 06:32 PM 2/7/2013, you wrote: >Hi list, > >Just purchased a new motherboard and case to for my wife to replace the >board she managed to kill (on the video) and a new case as the old one was >ancient and not very well ventilated (linked to board >death). Also installed >W7 on it. > >I've had better installs (board had a bios I'd never seen before) and once >I'd managed to get of XP from the hard drive and complete the W7 >installation everything was ok. > >Of course the board needs the board specific graphic driver, sound driver >(I guess) and eventually wi-fi install. > >After the first install everything the PC failed to re-boot and showed a >blue screen of death. After a few more re-boots I gave and up reinstalled >W7. Everything now ok and no problem with several cold re-boots. I then >only installed 3 or 4 of the motherboard software drivers/applications. PC >then failed to reboot, BSOD etc. > >Reinstalled W7 and PC boots up ok so I'm confident something on the >motherboard software is the issue. I've googled the board name and >not found any >reported software faults so welcome any advice - such as how to get a >better video driver by itself etc etc. > >Weslake-Monza 1330 >------------------------ From frogeye at cox.net Fri Feb 8 08:05:13 2013 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:05:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Message-ID: As long as the list is a bit slow Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow without drifting Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru Maine Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected Worst to arrive after dark and overnite Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my recently retired wife Alan From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Feb 8 08:16:35 2013 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:16:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> Here in the Hudson Valley, the usual Hype from the media is ramping up. Can't wait to see the evening news tonight when all of the "Eye on the storm" reporters will be outside in the snow reporting absolutely nothing. In the meantime, the Jeep is full of Gas, the generator is full of gas, the fridge is full of Coors light, Who could be better prepared? Jim F -----Original Message----- From: alan Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:05 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow As long as the list is a bit slow Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow without drifting Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru Maine Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected Worst to arrive after dark and overnite Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my recently retired wife Alan ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Feb 8 08:32:40 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:32:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> Message-ID: <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> Something better than diet beer might be good. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:16 AM, "Jim F" wrote: > Here in the Hudson Valley, the usual Hype from the media is ramping up. Can't wait to see the evening news tonight when all of the "Eye on the storm" reporters will be outside in the snow reporting absolutely nothing. In the meantime, the Jeep is full of Gas, the generator is full of gas, the fridge is full of Coors light, Who could be better prepared? > > Jim F > > -----Original Message----- From: alan > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:05 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > As long as the list is a bit slow > Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow > without drifting > Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru > Maine > Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected > Worst to arrive after dark and overnite > Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my > recently retired wife > Alan > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From ridleymj at brant.net Fri Feb 8 08:33:23 2013 From: ridleymj at brant.net (Martyn Ridley) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 10:33:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Message-ID: <51151AC3.50104@brant.net> Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. Cheers, Martyn From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Feb 8 08:38:07 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:38:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> Message-ID: <1360337887.49845.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Reporting of the weather is essentially presenting fact and prediction. Unfortunately, today's media outlets treat it with the same glitz, glamor, and hype as the Grammy Awards. That's why I by-pass these actors, and rely on the internet for my weather information. jay ________________________________ From: Jim F Here in the Hudson Valley, the usual Hype from the media is ramping up. Can't wait to see the evening news tonight when all of the "Eye on the storm" reporters will be outside in the snow reporting absolutely nothing. In the meantime, the Jeep is full of Gas, the generator is full of gas, the fridge is full of Coors light, Who could be better prepared? From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Feb 8 08:42:19 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:42:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: <51151AC3.50104@brant.net> References: <51151AC3.50104@brant.net> Message-ID: <1360338139.49486.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhesives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasteners/_/N-77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Feb 8 08:49:30 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:49:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> "the fridge is full of Coors light" Just a suggestion, but before the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a run to store and buy some beer. jay ________________________________ From schris51 at att.net Fri Feb 8 08:56:07 2013 From: schris51 at att.net (Steve Christiansen) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:56:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I hear that. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51 at att.net ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow "the fridge is full of Coors light" Just a suggestion, but before the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a run to store and buy some beer. jay ________________________________ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51 at att.net From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 09:01:37 2013 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:01:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Can you guys get the new Falls City Beer out there? On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jay wrote: > "the fridge is full of Coors light" > > Just a suggestion, but before the snow gets too heavy, you might want to > make a > run to store and buy some beer. > > jay From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Feb 8 09:11:23 2013 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:11:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN><33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net><1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> I've also got some Heinekin and 2 6 paks of Corona Jim F -----Original Message----- From: Steve Christiansen Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:56 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow I hear that. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51 at att.net ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow "the fridge is full of Coors light" Just a suggestion, but before the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a run to store and buy some beer. jay ________________________________ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51 at att.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 09:59:25 2013 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:59:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> Message-ID: Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant 42F kegerator... Cheers!! Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Jim F wrote: > I've also got some Heinekin and 2 6 paks of Corona > > Jim F > > -----Original Message----- From: Steve Christiansen > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:56 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > I hear that. > > Steve Christiansen > Ol Phartz Partz > 714-686-1236 > www.olphartz.com > schris51 at att.net > > > > > ______________________________**__ > From: > Jay > To: Spridgets > Sent: > Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list > is slow > > "the fridge is full of Coors light" > > Just a suggestion, but before > the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a > run to store and buy some > beer. > > jay > > > > > ______________________________**__ > ------------------------ > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested > annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/spridgets/schris51@**att.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/jimndi@**frontiernet.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Feb 8 10:33:50 2013 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:33:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN><33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net><1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> Message-ID: <672A603EDA974AC0B803C42E56859FAA@MAIN> Eureka!!!! I found an old stash of Captain Morgan ! Jim F. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:59 AM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant 42F kegerator... Cheers!! Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Jim F wrote: > I've also got some Heinekin and 2 6 paks of Corona > > Jim F > > -----Original Message----- From: Steve Christiansen > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:56 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > I hear that. > > Steve Christiansen > Ol Phartz Partz > 714-686-1236 > www.olphartz.com > schris51 at att.net > > > > > ______________________________**__ > From: > Jay > To: Spridgets > Sent: > Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list > is slow > > "the fridge is full of Coors light" > > Just a suggestion, but before > the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a > run to store and buy some > beer. > > jay > > > > > ______________________________**__ > ------------------------ > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested > annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/spridgets/schris51@**att.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/jimndi@**frontiernet.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Fri Feb 8 11:59:40 2013 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:59:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: <1360338139.49486.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <51151AC3.50104@brant.net> <1360338139.49486.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98B6B170994745F78E137C9B129EA395@leosHP> There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I will find one of the packages this evening and post it. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhesives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasteners/_/N-77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Feb 8 12:09:24 2013 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:09:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50C1809C-C160-40D5-AAC8-976CCED8BC4E@gerardsgarage.com> Hi Jim, I didn't know you were a home brewer:-) My son, who you met at LotO, is now a professional chef and we've been making home-brew for a couple years now. Except for a few microbrews, there little "off the shelf stuff" we like anymore. Maybe you can share a couple recipes? :-) Cheers! Gerard On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:59:25 -0600 > From: Jim Johnson > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant > 42F kegerator... > > Cheers!! > Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the > cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 12:17:01 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:17:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Message-ID: I started homebrewing in 1978. Funny when I look back on it, used an open top 5 gallon crock with malt and hops and water and yeast. Laid a plastic cover over it just to keep most of the extraneous "stuff" out. That was a great top fermenting lager as I remember it. Now I might not even want to try it but back then it was ambrosia. I recently discovered I have a great intolerance to gluten, therefore beer. I was pretty bummed out about this until just recently when I finally thought "what about hard cider?". I have the kegs and the fridge and the CO2 with the regulators and I'm just so completely set up for this. So, not knowing any better (sometimes that is a good thing) I went to the store and bought 5 gallons of Tree Top apple juice and four or five frozen concentrated cans of Tree Top. I chose Tree Top because of the commercially available apple juices out there they are the only ones I could find that display right on the front "Made only from apples grown in the USA". So I went to my nearby wine & beer making shop and bought a new airlock and rubber stopper (with the hole in it for the airlock) and a package of Wyeast Cider Yeast. Went home, activated the yeast and put all the juices in the carboy. Once the yeast pouch was getting nice and puffy I opened it up and pitched it in. Fermentation began rapidly, and went on for a week. I racked it out into a clean carboy (I own several) and let it run for another week. By the end of the 2nd week it was clearing pretty nicely so I racked it into a keg. Hooked up the CO2, gave it some shakes and let it sit a few days. This was at Christmas time, so I had nice bubbly hard cider for my guests who came for Christmas dinner. That was so good I decided to do it again. Like any good brewer worth his salt I save packets of yeast from a good batch, the Wyeast people say this will work fine up through about 7 generations. The second batch came out even better than the first. I know it would be better if I had a cider press and juiced my own apples yada yada. You can't argue with results however, and this stuff was great! Ok, there you go - hope all you guys and gals hunkered down for the storm are well stocked and stay warm and dry. Rick Bastedo ****************************************** From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant 42F kegerator... Cheers!! Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Feb 8 13:41:23 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:41:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: <672A603EDA974AC0B803C42E56859FAA@MAIN> References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN><33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net><1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> <672A603EDA974AC0B803C42E56859FAA@MAIN> Message-ID: <0F2571B4D5DA419D8BC06A135B63D689@spider> That is good auto-freeze. =============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim F Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:34 AM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Eureka!!!! I found an old stash of Captain Morgan ! Jim F. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Feb 8 14:58:48 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:58:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: <98B6B170994745F78E137C9B129EA395@leosHP> Message-ID: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Maybe the one you are thinking of is Hanson Rivet. I used them also for my valve cover plates. They usually sell in the 100s or thousands of rivets, but the salesman told me if I bought a bucking tool (10 bucks or so) he would send me a dozen "samples" of different sizes close to what I needed. That was ten years ago. I still have the tool and more rivets than I will need for the BN2 I am doing. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 www.hansonrivet.com --- On Fri, 2/8/13, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats To: "Jay" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 6:59 PM There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I will find one of the packages this evening and post it. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhesives/Riv ets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasteners/_/N- 77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From rich_ball at mindspring.com Fri Feb 8 15:04:45 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:04:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> Thanks to everyone that gave up their options and information. I think it was helpful. So I talked with my daughter-In-Law last night and due to size concerns and the information I had for her she is now really looking at Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Caravans. They have just the two kids, but she also watches her two year old Nephew four days a week so that makes for needing to have three car seats. That's hard to do with out a third row seat. I know Chrysler had some transmission problems in the 90's, but thought I'd ask what experiences you all may have had. She was all exited about one she saw and sent me the link to the dealer. I could see that the lights on right front were new and the ones on the left were the old faded ones and pointed out that it may have had some damage repaired. It is and isn't what she wanted me to say all at the same time. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Feb 8 15:24:15 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What good books? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alan Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:05 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow As long as the list is a bit slow Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow without drifting Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru Maine Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected Worst to arrive after dark and overnite Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my recently retired wife Alan ------------------------ From jodyfkerr at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 16:17:04 2013 From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:17:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan In-Reply-To: <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Overall they're great. My mum has had a succession of them from 1984 onwards. The only complaint that I have on the post 1997 ones is that the mandated TPMS valve stem is a total piece of rubbish, especially anywhere that it gets wet. My mum's current 2008 had a pair of them fail and I went round and round with Chrysler until I eventually told them where they could put their factory valve stems. Schraeder sells an aftermarket unit that's an old style brass & rubber valve stem but still has the correct 433mhz TPMS. Had those put on her car and now I don't worry about her driving it any more. The stow & go seats are awesome! Our brood 'o kids is going from 2 to 3 in a month or so and we'll likely sell our old explorer and get one of the Town and Country models. If they do go down this route I've got all the part #s for the valve stem/TPMS. Jody On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Thanks to everyone that gave up their options and information. I think it was > helpful. > > So I talked with my daughter-In-Law last night and due to size concerns and > the information I had for her she is now really looking at Chrysler Town & > Country and Dodge Caravans. They have just the two kids, but she also watches > her two year old Nephew four days a week so that makes for needing to have > three car seats. That's hard to do with out a third row seat. > > I know Chrysler had some transmission problems in the 90's, but thought I'd > ask what experiences you all may have had. > > She was all exited about one she saw and sent me the link to the dealer. I > could see that the lights on right front were new and the ones on the left > were the old faded ones and pointed out that it may have had some damage > repaired. It is and isn't what she wanted me to say all at the same time. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jodyfkerr at gmail.com -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams From grday at btinternet.com Fri Feb 8 17:22:01 2013 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:22:01 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow References: Message-ID: <2EF9989040404FADB659C22384E6B7A8@user8634b3d69b> My in-laws used to live in Devon (UK) where they were making cider a couple of weeks before Bodicea or Boudicca (Buddug if you are Welsh) learnt to drive her chariot. I was down with them one summer a good few years ago when we visited one of the old time farmers who used to make his own cider. Cloudy, a wisp of froth round the edges of the mug and served at whatever the outside temperature was. Just a gill of that sent me walking in spirals and with a tongue thickening between my lips I asked how he made it. "Get the windfalls", came the reply, "put them in a sack (he was talking of a large hessian or gunny sack) and hang then up from the rafters in the cellar. When they've been there for a week or so put a half leg of pork in the middle of them and then a funnel underneath to drain into the barrel. Leave it and come late on in the New Year around Gwenton you'll have a brew to put hairs on your chest", he said, looking lustily down my wife's stretched low neck tee-shirt. I've heard of this way of making cider from a couple of sources although the pork was now beef and could well have been lamb and one year thought I would have a go. I'd got a sack full of apples from this chap and was driving home from Devon in a hired panel van with a roller shutter door. On the way back the catch came loose, the door vibrated open and the sack of apples slumped onto the van floor. So if any-one found a trail of squashed apples along the M5 northbound leading onto the M6 and the M62 that was going to be my home brewed cider. I never did go back for more. Good fortune to you all, Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow >I started homebrewing in 1978. > Funny when I look back on it, used an open top 5 gallon crock with malt > and > hops and water and yeast. > Laid a plastic cover over it just to keep most of the extraneous "stuff" > out. > That was a great top fermenting lager as I remember it. > Now I might not even want to try it but back then it was ambrosia. > > I recently discovered I have a great intolerance to gluten, therefore > beer. > I was pretty bummed out about this until just recently when I finally > thought "what about hard cider?". > I have the kegs and the fridge and the CO2 with the regulators and I'm > just > so completely set up for this. > So, not knowing any better (sometimes that is a good thing) I went to the > store and bought 5 gallons of Tree Top apple juice and four or five frozen > concentrated cans of Tree Top. > I chose Tree Top because of the commercially available apple juices out > there they are the only ones I could find that display right on the front > "Made only from apples grown in the USA". > So I went to my nearby wine & beer making shop and bought a new airlock > and > rubber stopper (with the hole in it for the airlock) and a package of > Wyeast Cider Yeast. > Went home, activated the yeast and put all the juices in the carboy. > Once the yeast pouch was getting nice and puffy I opened it up and pitched > it in. > Fermentation began rapidly, and went on for a week. > I racked it out into a clean carboy (I own several) and let it run for > another week. > By the end of the 2nd week it was clearing pretty nicely so I racked it > into a keg. > Hooked up the CO2, gave it some shakes and let it sit a few days. > This was at Christmas time, so I had nice bubbly hard cider for my guests > who came for Christmas dinner. > That was so good I decided to do it again. > Like any good brewer worth his salt I save packets of yeast from a good > batch, the Wyeast people say this will work fine up through about 7 > generations. > The second batch came out even better than the first. > > I know it would be better if I had a cider press and juiced my own apples > yada yada. > You can't argue with results however, and this stuff was great! > > Ok, there you go - hope all you guys and gals hunkered down for the storm > are well stocked and stay warm and dry. > > Rick Bastedo > > > ****************************************** > From: Jim Johnson <> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant > 42F kegerator... > > Cheers!! > Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the > cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6088 - Release Date: 02/07/13 From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Fri Feb 8 19:13:14 2013 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:13:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <133B14BED3EA4F8CB3B27CD38FE0E301@leosHP> That is exactly who it was and I did the same deal with bsamplesb lEO From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:58 PM To: Jay ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; 60bugeye at cebridge.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Maybe the one you are thinking of is Hanson Rivet. I used them also for my valve cover plates. They usually sell in the 100s or thousands of rivets, but the salesman told me if I bought a bucking tool (10 bucks or so) he would send me a dozen "samples" of different sizes close to what I needed. That was ten years ago. I still have the tool and more rivets than I will need for the BN2 I am doing. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 www.hansonrivet.com --- On Fri, 2/8/13, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats To: "Jay" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 6:59 PM There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I will find one of the packages this evening and post it. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhes ives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasten ers/_/N-77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. ------------------------ wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net ------------------------ wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Feb 9 07:06:35 2013 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:06:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan In-Reply-To: References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <80B7041C7E6E4305A10A4B9AAAE82BAE@Home> > The stow & go seats are awesome! I have a full 4'x8' sheet of 1/4" plywood in my minivan, and I use it as a truck. When I was whitewater kayaking, I slept in it. When I need the seats up for visitors, I just pull the plywood and stack it in the carport. Michael Rowe From ridleymj at brant.net Sat Feb 9 12:13:09 2013 From: ridleymj at brant.net (Martyn Ridley) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:13:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: <133B14BED3EA4F8CB3B27CD38FE0E301@leosHP> References: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <133B14BED3EA4F8CB3B27CD38FE0E301@leosHP> Message-ID: <51169FC5.4000204@brant.net> Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Regards, Martyn On 2/8/2013 9:13 PM, 60bugeye at cebridge.net wrote: > That is exactly who it was and I did the same deal with b samplesb > > lEO > > From: Michael MacLean > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:58 PM > To: Jay ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; 60bugeye at cebridge.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats > > Maybe the one you are thinking of is Hanson Rivet. I used them also for > my valve cover plates. They usually sell in the 100s or thousands of rivets, > but the salesman told me if I bought a bucking tool (10 bucks or so) he would > send me a dozen "samples" of different sizes close to what I needed. That was > ten years ago. I still have the tool and more rivets than I will need for the > BN2 I am doing. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > www.hansonrivet.com > > --- On Fri, 2/8/13, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > wrote: > > > From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats > To: "Jay" , spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 6:59 PM > > > There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with > the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I > will find one of the packages this evening and post it. > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- From: Jay > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM > To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats > > What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? > > "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" > > Shocking. > > A quick Google search: > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 > > > And there are other suppliers. > > http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhes > ives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasten > ers/_/N-77dvt > > > http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Martyn Ridley > To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Seats > > Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat > frame to > the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts > manual. Nut > and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. > ------------------------ > > wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net > ------------------------ > > wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ridleymj at brant.net From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 9 12:55:48 2013 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 11:55:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Message-ID: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. Working through an old Nelson DeMille I missed called Wildfire. Another page turner to be sure. Message: 7 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'alan'" , Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What good books? From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sat Feb 9 16:31:55 2013 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1128653197.1026507.1360452715368.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Send me a good winter storm.B We've been pretty sanitary here (East Tennessee) this winter, unfortunately. But I am reading the first of the trilogy by Ken Follett, Fall of Giants.B Pretty good stuff and well written, as is characteristic of Follett. --David C. MyB B memory's not as sharp as it used to be.B Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be. B ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" To: "Spridgets Digest" Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:55:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, B is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. B Working through an old Nelson DeMille I missed called Wildfire. Another page turner to be sure. B Message: 7 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'alan'" , Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What good books? ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Feb 9 17:25:25 2013 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:25:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> 851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff have to be like: "The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua River in the province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of 750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre (51.3 /sq mi)" You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read it. It was a very long flight. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Feb 9 17:41:59 2013 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:41:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1360456919.4098.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> 851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff have to be like: "The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua River in the province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of 750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre (51.3 /sq mi)" You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read it. It was a very long flight. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Feb 10 03:03:37 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 05:03:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Message-ID: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would be sitting by a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and finding the error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed by the calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm correct as 'The myth that led to the great mistake'. How biographies of: Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright brothers etc Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: Clancy could spare me some details From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 10 08:49:27 2013 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:49:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> Message-ID: <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so I'll definitely finish it. The other book I'm reading - re-reading actually - is Mark Donahue's masterpiece, "The Unfair Advantage". I had a copy years ago when it was out of print and hard to find. Unfortunately, I loaned it to somebody who never returned it so have not read it years. I asked for it for Christmas this year, and my sister got it for me, so I'm devouring it. It is a great read for any gearhead, but should be required reading for anybody who competes or drives anywhere near the edge with any vehicle. On second thought - you don't want it to be widely read because then everybody would have the heightened understanding of vehicle dynamics, engine building theory, entry/apex/exit dissection, rulebook "interpretation", etc. The biggest thing I took away from it is how important a strong work ethic is to success. Mark Donahue simply worked harder for success than anybody else did. Seriously - as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) David Booker ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would be sitting by a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and finding the error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed by the calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm correct as 'The myth that led to the great mistake'. How biographies of: Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright brothers etc Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: Clancy could spare me some details ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From jfishbein at snet.net Sun Feb 10 09:07:33 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:07:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Unfair Advantage - great book. Jay On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:49 AM, David Booker wrote: > I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at > once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one > fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is > building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so > I'll definitely finish it. The other book I'm reading - re-reading actually - > is Mark Donahue's masterpiece, "The Unfair Advantage". I had a copy years ago > when it was out of print and hard to find. Unfortunately, I loaned it to > somebody who never returned it so have not read it years. I asked for it for > Christmas this year, and my sister got it for me, so I'm devouring it. > > It is > a great read for any gearhead, but should be required reading for anybody who > competes or drives anywhere near the edge with any vehicle. On second thought > - you don't want it to be widely read because then everybody would have the > heightened understanding of vehicle dynamics, engine building theory, > entry/apex/exit dissection, rulebook "interpretation", etc. The biggest thing > I took away from it is how important a strong work ethic is to success. Mark > Donahue simply worked harder for success than anybody else did. > > Seriously - > as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our > bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) > > David Booker > ________________________________ > From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, > February 10, 2013 5:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a > Winter's Storm > > I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would > be sitting by > a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and > finding the > error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed > by the > calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm > correct as 'The > myth that led to the great mistake'. > > How biographies of: > Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright > brothers etc > > Weslake-Monza > 1330 > > > In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, > healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: > > Clancy could spare me some details > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfishbein at snet.net From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 09:35:46 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:35:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1B0B462F-26BA-4F4C-928E-B9236A6C164A@gmail.com> The Skunk Works by Ben Rich. On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > The Unfair Advantage - great book. > > Jay > > On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:49 AM, David Booker wrote: > >> I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at >> once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one >> fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is >> building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so >> I'll definitely finish it. The other book I'm reading - re-reading actually > - >> is Mark Donahue's masterpiece, "The Unfair Advantage". I had a copy years > ago >> when it was out of print and hard to find. Unfortunately, I loaned it to >> somebody who never returned it so have not read it years. I asked for it > for >> Christmas this year, and my sister got it for me, so I'm devouring it. >> >> It is >> a great read for any gearhead, but should be required reading for anybody > who >> competes or drives anywhere near the edge with any vehicle. On second > thought >> - you don't want it to be widely read because then everybody would have the >> heightened understanding of vehicle dynamics, engine building theory, >> entry/apex/exit dissection, rulebook "interpretation", etc. The biggest > thing >> I took away from it is how important a strong work ethic is to success. > Mark >> Donahue simply worked harder for success than anybody else did. >> >> Seriously - >> as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our >> bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) >> >> David Booker >> ________________________________ >> From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" >> >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Sunday, >> February 10, 2013 5:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a >> Winter's Storm >> >> I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would >> be sitting by >> a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and >> finding the >> error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed >> by the >> calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm >> correct as 'The >> myth that led to the great mistake'. >> >> How biographies of: >> Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright >> brothers etc >> >> Weslake-Monza >> 1330 >> >> >> In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, >> healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: >> >> Clancy could spare me some details >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfishbein at snet.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 10 10:06:04 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:06:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan In-Reply-To: <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <1360515964.52756.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> We had ours for several years. It worked out great. Loved the fold and tumble seats. We got it primarily because we had both kids in car carriers and it was roomy enough for all of us plus any company that was visiting. Great rig, no problems whatsoever. One thing I did notice is that they are extremely hard on front brakes. They don't last very long at all. I would get an extended warranty with it if it's used and has lots of power options. At around 100K, a lot of the power features started to fail. That was when we traded it in. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: 'Spridgets List' Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan Thanks to everyone that gave up their options and information. I think it was helpful. So I talked with my daughter-In-Law last night and due to size concerns and the information I had for her she is now really looking at Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Caravans. They have just the two kids, but she also watches her two year old Nephew four days a week so that makes for needing to have three car seats. That's hard to do with out a third row seat. I know Chrysler had some transmission problems in the 90's, but thought I'd ask what experiences you all may have had. She was all exited about one she saw and sent me the link to the dealer. I could see that the lights on right front were new and the ones on the left were the old faded ones and pointed out that it may have had some damage repaired. It is and isn't what she wanted me to say all at the same time. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From ridleymj at brant.net Sun Feb 10 13:56:51 2013 From: ridleymj at brant.net (Martyn Ridley) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:56:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather Message-ID: <51180993.7010101@brant.net> Outside of number one, there is no particular order of importance. Yes, you can substitue several of the tomes for likewse but remember that these were chosen because of their insight (or lies in the case of Touch Wood) and similar books on the subject will not give your the flavour. 1. Tuning the A Series Engine - David Vizard - you should own it! 2. Original Sprite and Midget - Terry Horler 3. The Stainless Steel Carrot - Sylvia Wilkinson 4. The Leyland Papers - Graham Turner 5. Sprites and Midgets - Anders Ditlev Clausager 6. The Art and Technicalities of Grand Prix driving - Nicolas Andres Lauda 7. TVR Success Against the Odds - Peter Filby 8. The Sprites and Midgets - Eric Dymock 9. Lucky All My Life - Jeff Crew And now 10. POMEs - Touch Wood - Duncan Hamilton Yanks - The Mudge Pond Express - Sam Posey Cannucks - Both, as lets face it we have to be able to talk to these people Honourable Mentions: All but my Life - Ken Purdy MG - Wilson McComb (mandatory if you also own a MGB) Brirish Racing Green - Anthony Prichard and of couse Anything and Everything written by or about Denis S Jenkinson From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Feb 10 17:46:51 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:46:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> Message-ID: I'm not too big on fiction either. The exception would be some good sci-fi books (Frank Herbert's Dune, H.G. Wells etc..) Real life adventure. Like "The Endurance" (Shackleton's expedition). Stuff like that.. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:04 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would be sitting by a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and finding the error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed by the calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm correct as 'The myth that led to the great mistake'. How biographies of: Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright brothers etc Weslake-Monza 1330 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 10 17:54:00 2013 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:54:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Question about oil - No LBC content Message-ID: <1360544040.62576.YahooMailNeo@web141404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I have used synthetic oil in my Frontier since it was new and intend to continue, but just got something from my local dealer saying they will change the oil & filter for $20. Obviously, this is not going to be synthetic. I have never once in my life paid somebody to change the oil in any of my vehicles...but it's real cold out there and I don't have a garage at the moment. So I am ever so slightly tempted. So, I have heard that you are not supposed to go back and forth between synthetic and non-synthetic oil. Is this true? I can't think of a reason it would be, but I'm no chemical engineer. (tho I do play one on TV) ;-) Thoughts? - David From bkitterer at me.com Sun Feb 10 18:53:41 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:53:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Question about oil - No LBC content In-Reply-To: <1360544040.62576.YahooMailNeo@web141404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1360544040.62576.YahooMailNeo@web141404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Unless something has changed in the last couple of years there is no problem switching back and forth. It is brake fluid that you can not switch. Also if you have the oil I'll bet they will put it in for you. I do that all the time with the RV, which is way to big for me to handle. Bob and Dolores 60 Sprite (Mk IV in disguise ) 66 Sprite (still in boxes) On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:54 PM, David Booker wrote: > I have used synthetic oil in my Frontier since it was new and intend to > continue, but just got something from my local dealer saying they will change > the oil & filter for $20. Obviously, this is not going to be synthetic. I have > never once in my life paid somebody to change the oil in any of my > vehicles...but it's real cold out there and I don't have a garage at the > moment. So I am ever so slightly tempted. > > So, I have heard that you are not > supposed to go back and forth between synthetic and non-synthetic oil. Is this > true? I can't think of a reason it would be, but I'm no chemical engineer. > (tho I do play one on TV) ;-) > > Thoughts? > > - David > ------------------------ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 11 06:55:17 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:55:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com>, <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 50 Shades of Grey?????? ;-) I WAS going to ask you to borrow you Unfair Advantage book, but.... Amazon has the paperback version for $21.14, new. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > > I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at > once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one > fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is > building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so > I'll definitely finish it. > > Seriously - > as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our > bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) > > David Booker From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 10:34:50 2013 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:34:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: <51169FC5.4000204@brant.net> References: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <133B14BED3EA4F8CB3B27CD38FE0E301@leosHP> <51169FC5.4000204@brant.net> Message-ID: <1360604090.72093.YahooMailNeo@web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ok i guess i'm old fashioned? i went to the local hardware store and bought what then was termed "soft rivets" and hand bucked them when i had my bugeye seat tracks replated. no big deal jusy sold by either the piece or by the pound. and yes a bolt (or screw) was not an option due to interference problems. chuck been there , broke it , fixed it , and broke it again From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 11 10:50:21 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:50:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather Message-ID: <1ca5b.67147a2a.3e4a895c@aol.com> Obviously a concours owner rather than a modify it owner! In a message dated 10/02/2013 21:02:51 GMT Standard Time, ridleymj at brant.net writes: Outside of number one, there is no particular order of importance. Yes, you can substitue several of the tomes for likewse but remember that these were chosen because of their insight (or lies in the case of Touch Wood) and similar books on the subject will not give your the flavour. 1. Tuning the A Series Engine - David Vizard - you should own it! 2. Original Sprite and Midget - Terry Horler 3. The Stainless Steel Carrot - Sylvia Wilkinson 4. The Leyland Papers - Graham Turner 5. Sprites and Midgets - Anders Ditlev Clausager 6. The Art and Technicalities of Grand Prix driving - Nicolas Andres Lauda 7. TVR Success Against the Odds - Peter Filby 8. The Sprites and Midgets - Eric Dymock 9. Lucky All My Life - Jeff Crew And now 10. POMEs - Touch Wood - Duncan Hamilton Yanks - The Mudge Pond Express - Sam Posey Cannucks - Both, as lets face it we have to be able to talk to these people Honourable Mentions: All but my Life - Ken Purdy MG - Wilson McComb (mandatory if you also own a MGB) Brirish Racing Green - Anthony Prichard and of couse Anything and Everything written by or about Denis S Jenkinson From mark at bradakis.com Mon Feb 11 12:19:23 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:19:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather In-Reply-To: <1ca5b.67147a2a.3e4a895c@aol.com> References: <1ca5b.67147a2a.3e4a895c@aol.com> Message-ID: <5119443B.4050102@bradakis.com> "By Brooks too Broad for Leaping" by Denise McCluggage. It is basically a collection of her essays from the days of "AutoWeek' being a newspaper, with the checkered helmet logo. mjb. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 11 15:11:23 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:11:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather In-Reply-To: <5119443B.4050102@bradakis.com> References: <1ca5b.67147a2a.3e4a895c@aol.com> <5119443B.4050102@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <51196C8B.4000303@justbrits.com> *be it found in a Hospital and/or Extended Care Facility and/or (again) * **in a Hospital and/or Extended Care Facility and/or, etc. SHOULD be # 1 ESPECIALLY on THIS List and I AM "ASHAMED" and I MEAN ASHAMED of EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ! ! !* Answer = http://tinyurl.com/af99del Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh. Ed * From mark at bradakis.com Mon Feb 11 19:01:35 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:01:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net notes Message-ID: <5119A27F.5070307@bradakis.com> One thing I have done to counteract the recent flurry of hijacked email addresses sending bad stuff through the the list is change the list settings for number of allowed recipients. Most of them include at least half a dozen or so addresses, maybe more, in each message as they go through the victim's address list. I've lowered the limit to 3. While this will stop a fair amount of the bad stuff from getting sent to the lists, it will also delay some legitimate messages. If folks send off nested replies with many recipients their mail will be held, waiting for me to approve it and send it on. I'll work on being more diligent about going through the pending admin requests [ 7,438 at the moment ] to separate the wheat from the chaff. And an advance notice - the annual fund drive will be coming up in a month or so, I will try and get all the forum and FTP issues resolved before asking for contributions. Never ending chores - I think I'll ask the man in charge for a raise! mjb. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Feb 12 15:06:47 2013 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] I saw oil?!! Message-ID: <1281771216.1156302.1360706807459.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> So I started my 74 up this evening for a planned MG meeting and happened to look under the hood while she was running and it looked like I had oil coming out of the hose that goes into the seperator onto the top of the separator.B I have never seen that before. It never overflowed or seeped down the back.B I first tightened the clamp at the seperator but that didint do anything.B I loosened it up pulled the hose off and all looked well so I put it back on and went for a short drive.B Don't see it anymore.B Should I be concerned about driving it like this for 45 min at 80mph on the highway each direction?B Never saw this before. Ryan From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Feb 13 08:59:36 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:59:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511BB868.2050400@wi.net> ROTFLMAO!! This has happened to me several times and you are dead on with his Michener/Melville-esque "attention to detail". What ever happened to, "It was a dark and stormy night...."? Is Clancy writing his own stuff again or is he franchised out? He needs some LBC's incorporated into the plot. I can visualize the words: In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and you may continue the description of the consequences of that action in your minds eye. Boy this takes up a lot of bandwidth! Don't you wish everyone wrote this way Mark? We now return you to your regularly schedule event. DW On 2/9/2013 6:25 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > 851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff > have to be like: > > "The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in > .338 > Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge > manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua River in the > province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. > The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of > 750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is > water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre > (51.3 /sq mi)" > > You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day > I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport > bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read > it. It was a very long flight. > > > Rick > > > "Madman in a death machine" > Follow > My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > ________________________________ > From: James Gruber > To: Spridgets Digest > Sent: Saturday, February 9, > 2013 2:55 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm > > Hey the > new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be > precise. > The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber > warfare seems > really close to reality. From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Feb 13 09:17:57 2013 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:17:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <511BB868.2050400@wi.net> References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <511BB868.2050400@wi.net> Message-ID: Dave, You should submit your prose to http://www.bulwer-lytton.com/. Of course we hold near and dear the 2005 winner of this contest with the prose. . . As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Stromberg carburetors in his vintage Triumph Spitfire, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the shop manual. The winner of this year's 23rd annual challenge, by Dan McKay, a 43-year-old quantitative analyst with Microsoft Great Plains, in Fargo, North Dakota, certainly shows such a paucity of aestheticism, though no lack of imagination: At 10:59 AM 2/13/2013, dwoerpel wrote: >ROTFLMAO!! This has happened to me several times and you are dead >on with his Michener/Melville-esque "attention to detail". >What ever happened to, "It was a dark and stormy night...."? Is >Clancy writing his own stuff again or is he franchised out? >He needs some LBC's incorporated into the plot. I can visualize the words: > >In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", >blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite >with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms >from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # >22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and >you may continue the description of the consequences of that action >in your minds eye. > >Boy this takes up a lot of bandwidth! Don't you wish everyone wrote >this way Mark? > >We now return you to your regularly schedule event. > >DW > > > >On 2/9/2013 6:25 PM, HealeyRick wrote: >>851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff >>have to be like: >> >>"The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in >>.338 >>Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge >>manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua >>River in the >>province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. >>The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of >>750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is >>water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre >>(51.3 /sq mi)" >> >>You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day >>I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport >>bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read >>it. It was a very long flight. >> >> >>Rick >> >> >>"Madman in a death machine" >>Follow >>My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >>________________________________ >> From: James Gruber >>To: Spridgets Digest >>Sent: Saturday, February 9, >>2013 2:55 PM >>Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm >> >>Hey the >>new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be >>precise. >>The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber >>warfare seems >>really close to reality. >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/thcollin at mtu.edu Tim Collins From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Feb 13 09:44:26 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:44:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Message-ID: <5d007.4f098dd2.3e4d1cea@aol.com> Great stuff - time to write an e-book and get it on Kindle. Or maybe the listers could write one of those stories where each person writes the next bit. In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear. Still, having upgraded the car's backaxle to a 3.9 LSD from the 4.22 open diff, the car lurched forward and he snatched 2nd. It wasn't quite the snatch he sometimes imagined but on this occasion it did the job and as the speed piled on he snatched 3rd, grateful for the upgrade to the Quickshift lever before they were NLA. In a message dated 13/02/2013 16:04:11 GMT Standard Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and you may continue the description of the consequences of that action in your minds eye. From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Wed Feb 13 09:40:38 2013 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:40:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] I saw oil?!! In-Reply-To: <1281771216.1156302.1360706807459.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1281771216.1156302.1360706807459.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1360773638.73002.YahooMailNeo@web165002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> controlled seepage. what you saw was a "ufo" and just keep looking under hood from time to time. remember these cars have a sense of humor..... chuck So I started my 74 up this evening for a planned MG meeting and happened to look under the hood while she was running and it looked like I had oil coming out of the hose that goes into the seperator onto the top of the separator.B I have never seen that before. It never overflowed or seeped down the back.B I first tightened the clamp at the seperator but that didint do anything.B I loosened it up pulled the hose off and all looked well so I put it back on and went for a short drive.B Don't see it anymore.B Should I be concerned about driving it like this for 45 min at 80mph on the highway each direction?B Never saw this before. From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Feb 13 10:02:56 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:02:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <5d007.4f098dd2.3e4d1cea@aol.com> References: <5d007.4f098dd2.3e4d1cea@aol.com> Message-ID: <511BC740.5090305@wi.net> Fabulous! I think we may be on to something! Don't forget the BLUE SILICONE hoses allowing the coolant to circulate almost unimpeded. Tim, great site! The gals from Appleton and Fond du Lac Wisconsin are pretty good and only a couple of hours away from me..........it's the long winters. Time to go play with the S.U.s DW On 2/13/2013 10:44 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Great stuff - time to write an e-book and get it on Kindle. Or maybe > the listers could write one of those stories where each person writes > the next bit. > In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond > killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin > turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, > forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh > on its 3.627:1 first gear. > Still, having upgraded the car's backaxle to a 3.9 LSD from the 4.22 > open diff, the car lurched forward and he snatched 2nd. It wasn't > quite the snatch he sometimes imagined but on this occasion it did the > job and as the speed piled on he snatched 3rd, grateful for the > upgrade to the Quickshift lever before they were NLA. > In a message dated 13/02/2013 16:04:11 GMT Standard Time, > dwoerpel at wi.net writes: > > In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond > killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with > the twin > turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear > to 1st, > forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without > synchromesh > on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and you may continue the > description of > the consequences of that action in your minds eye. From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Feb 13 10:06:16 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:06:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm In-Reply-To: <5d467.99e5906.3e4d1ef4@aol.com> References: <5d467.99e5906.3e4d1ef4@aol.com> Message-ID: <511BC808.3060007@wi.net> Whoa! Attributes aside, what a neat installation. Got a link or stats for the engine? DW On 2/13/2013 10:53 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > And here is a picture for you but not the rest of the list of the > Triumph 'Sabrina' engine. > In a message dated 13/02/2013 16:19:59 GMT Standard Time, > thcollin at mtu.edu writes: > > Dave, > You should submit your prose to http://www.bulwer-lytton.com/. > > Of course we hold near and dear the 2005 winner of this contest with > the prose. . . > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Stromberg > carburetors in his vintage Triumph Spitfire, highly functional yet > pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, > aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil > dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in > chapter seven of the shop manual. > > The winner of this year's 23rd annual challenge, by Dan McKay, a > 43-year-old quantitative analyst with Microsoft Great Plains, in > Fargo, North Dakota, certainly shows such a paucity of aestheticism, > though no lack of imagination: From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Feb 13 10:55:49 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:55:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Message-ID: <5fc3e.265f551f.3e4d2da4@aol.com> It was a special development engine (from Memory) that Triumph built for competition (details in a Triumph book I read from the library). The SUs are special twin units, also featured in the book so I was very pleased to see them in 'the metal' on this car at a car show a couple of years ago. Sabrina's worth a google! In a message dated 13/02/2013 17:06:24 GMT Standard Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: Whoa! Attributes aside, what a neat installation. Got a link or stats for the engine? DW From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 08:24:33 2013 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:24:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses Message-ID: Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse blows. It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? Thanks, John From peter at nosimport.com Thu Feb 14 08:32:28 2013 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:32:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130214153230.CDA4AF44179@mx2.netinteraction.com> It's Twue! It's Twue! if you had an old original Lucas fuse, the paper inside said "17A continuous" Peter C At 09:24 AM 2/14/2013, John Farley wrote: >Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and >USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use >different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge >(peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses >are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to >say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 >amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse >blows. > >It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps >"continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one >that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use >BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). > >Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? > >Thanks, John >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6100 - Release Date: 02/12/13 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 14 08:40:25 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:40:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses In-Reply-To: <20130214153230.CDA4AF44179@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <20130214153230.CDA4AF44179@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: Special answer for Valentines Day? ;-0 Lester On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:32 28AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > It's Twue! It's Twue! > > if you had an old original Lucas fuse, the paper inside said "17A continuous" > > Peter C > > At 09:24 AM 2/14/2013, John Farley wrote: >> Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and >> USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use >> different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge >> (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses >> are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to >> say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 >> amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse >> blows. >> >> It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps >> "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one >> that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use >> BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). >> >> Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? >> >> Thanks, John >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6100 - Release Date: 02/12/13 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From grday at btinternet.com Thu Feb 14 08:45:16 2013 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:45:16 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses References: Message-ID: John, Yes and yes. Peter has mentioned the genuine Lucas fuses have a piece of paper in them, this is often seen browned or burnt in a line where the fuse wire has been touching it. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Farley" To: "Mailing List Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses > Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and > USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use > different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge > (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses > are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to > say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas > 35 > amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse > blows. > > It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps > "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one > that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use > BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). > > Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? > > Thanks, John > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6101 - Release Date: 02/13/13 From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 09:43:31 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:43:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A #10 stranded wire will handle about 30 Amps. I don't remember too many #10 or larger wires in the Spridget wiring harness, (starter and alternator, maybe?) The fuse should match the load and wiring capacity. http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/dam/public/bussmann/Electrical/Resources/Data%20Sheets/Bus_Ele_DS_8005_Fuseology.pdf From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 11:53:09 2013 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:53:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Drum Brakes Message-ID: List, I know I have seen this someplace, but cannot find it now. What is the max that can be turned out of the Bugeye Drums before they are too large in diameter?? Thanks in advance. Jeff Kelly From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Feb 14 12:15:58 2013 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:15:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1360869358.3848.YahooMailClassic@web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> All true - My fuses even say 36AMP in the metal rim. The paper in side with the filament says 17 amp. I noticed mosss fuses do not have the paper only 35amp. They claim there correct. Vigil. --- On Thu, 2/14/13, John Farley wrote: From: John Farley Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses To: "Mailing List Spridgets" Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 7:24 AM Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse blows. It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? Thanks, John ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Feb 14 12:26:21 2013 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:26:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CD0DF8F-03DB-435D-9D44-C37CFA33D7E1@gerardsgarage.com> Info on my web site: British vs American Fuses http://www.gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/Fuses.htm Gerrad On Feb 14, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:24:33 -0500 > From: John Farley > To: Mailing List Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and > USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use > different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge > (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses > are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to > say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 > amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse > blows. > > It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps > "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one > that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use > BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). > > Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? > > Thanks, John From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 15:23:04 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:23:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Powered MGB Message-ID: There's an MGB at the PullAPart in Baton Rouge with a Toyota powertrain in it. The car is in rough shape but if anyone is interested in the conversion, it is there to see and dissect. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Fri Feb 15 17:31:55 2013 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:31:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what every spridget needs to be able to do In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Check this out http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=39089 From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 20:23:40 2013 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:23:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what every spridget needs to be able to do In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd never trust my car to go park itself. It may not be as picky about it's parking spot as I am! And for those who may not like/trust links to unknown sites the video is actually on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgN8MOrss40 From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Feb 15 20:23:34 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:23:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what every spridget needs to be able to do In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B7F65C3-63F3-4B7A-B877-4ABECEB4FFF7@chartermi.net> Yikes! No chance of anything going wrong there! Sent from my keyboard On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:31 PM, <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Check this out http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=39089 ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sat Feb 16 12:34:41 2013 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:34:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Exceptional Sprite FS Message-ID: <84676447-EDAD-41C2-9FDD-D9BE4F0F1DF9@gerardsgarage.com> This is the '68 I spent about 10 years restoring. It belongs to a friend now and he's thinning his dozen or so car collection. Selling because it's getting to hard for him to get in and out of these smaller cars. http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,2290507,2290809#msg-2290809 http://www.vuvox.com/collage_express/collage.swf?collageID=0134319034 Gerard From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Feb 16 13:42:12 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:42:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Micro Car Auction - Day 1 wrap Message-ID: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130216/CARNEWS/130219847 From bkitterer at me.com Sat Feb 16 15:35:07 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:35:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> List Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in excellent condition. The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. However it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of the rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a 1/3 of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before they finished steam cleaning the asphalt. We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. TIA Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Feb 16 15:55:12 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:55:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC In-Reply-To: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> References: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> Message-ID: Hydraulic fluid will soften the tar. I doubt if steam cleaning will get it all. I would reseal the area at a minimum. Sent from my keyboard On Feb 16, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Bob Kitterer wrote: > List > > Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst > dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine > what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street > an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in > excellent condition. > > The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat > certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon > they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. However > it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of the > rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a 1/3 > of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before they > finished steam cleaning the asphalt. > > We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and > long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would > appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. > > TIA > > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From grday at btinternet.com Sat Feb 16 16:20:27 2013 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 23:20:27 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC References: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> Message-ID: I understand the type of hydraulic fluid and asphalt can make a difference but generally it will dissolve the 'binder' or compound used to hold the stone chips in the road. There are many types and grades of asphalt and some are more resistant than others. Just like brake fluid on paintwork IMHO the only way to get rid of the problem is remove the paint (asphalt) and start from fresh. If this is not done I believe you will have problems year after year after year. It will always degrade and cause problems. Cure? Dig out the affected area plus around 1 ft on the non drainage sides and 3 feet on the drainage side and when I say 'dig out' this includes the base layers and then you can re-lay. Look up asphalt MANUFACTURERs, not the guys who lay it, and refer to them. See if they have a guy who can come out and check on the grade of asphalt on your road and seek his advice. Try to get some of the fluid which spilt and mix a chunk of your road into it and see if it does dissolve. It could be a type that doesn't and I could have worried you without reason! Around 20 years ago over here in the UK I reported on an incident where this same thing happened and a car slid into a child on the surface of the asphalt - which had turned to gravel around 12 months later. They sued the local authority (responsible for road maintenance) who in turn sued the haulage company whose vehicle it was that caused the problem. Their agreed solution was to dig out the asphalt over an area around 75 sq yd and concrete it. A rather expensive leak of hydraulic fluid. Last year I had builders in and the JCB they used leaked hydraulic fluid onto the asphalt drive at the side of my house, now the snows have gone I have seen that is corroding away. The leak was just a 'couple' of drips after they used it and they placed a sheet of plywood down overnight to absorb them but.... It will be fun later this year when I speak with them about it. They already know I'm not best pleased as the area is stained and the gravel is becoming loose. I would NOT trust the clean-up squad or trash truck people to provide honest answers, it is in their interest to provide placebo answers and hope that 5 years on your will have forgotten what the problem was or it will be too late to sue. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kitterer" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC > List > > Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line > burst > dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to > determine > what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private > street > an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in > excellent condition. > > The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat > certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon > they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. > However > it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of > the > rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a > 1/3 > of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before > they > finished steam cleaning the asphalt. > > We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and > long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would > appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. > > TIA > > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6105 - Release Date: 02/15/13 From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sat Feb 16 17:47:21 2013 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:47:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC In-Reply-To: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> References: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> Message-ID: <201302170047.r1H0lPkH018217@mail.usimperio.com> Do like they do with Nascar tracks. Spread powdered TIDE and brush in with a broom let is sit for a short while and hose it off. The TIDE lifts the "dirt" out of the track. My 2 cents Dave At 05:35 PM 2/16/2013, you wrote: >List > >Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst >dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine >what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street >an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in >excellent condition. > >The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat >certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon >they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. However >it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of the >rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a 1/3 >of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before they >finished steam cleaning the asphalt. > >We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and >long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would >appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. > >TIA > > >Bob and Dolores > >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc at littlebitcountry.com > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6101 - Release Date: 02/13/13 From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Feb 16 17:51:18 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:51:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC In-Reply-To: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> Message-ID: <1361062278.18096.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> As a British car owner I am astonished you have never had to deal with leaks and spills up to now. ;^) Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 --- On Sat, 2/16/13, Bob Kitterer wrote: List Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in excellent condition. From bkitterer at me.com Sat Feb 16 17:53:14 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:53:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC In-Reply-To: <1361062278.18096.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1361062278.18096.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3A61C366-A6F0-4B34-86EA-A167347D7406@me.com> Drip pans, drip pans Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes On Feb 16, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > As a British car owner I am astonished you have never had to deal with leaks and spills up to now. ;^) > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > --- On Sat, 2/16/13, Bob Kitterer wrote: > > > > List > > Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst > dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine > what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street > an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in > excellent condition. From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 17:42:54 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:42:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! Message-ID: I found I own a couple rare DE magazines so I want to sell them and add the proceeds to the RWA Midget rebuild fund. So I listed one on Ebay yesterday and then last night found the listing had been cancelled and removed. The person who removed the listing said it was due to a rules violation, the rule is that magazines can accept only 10 rounds or less. These are 10 round mags, as it is clearly stated in the listing title, body and pictures. So I called this morning, explained my point of view and the person on the phone looked at the listing and said they would send in an appeal. However it goes to the person who originally cancelled the listing. I've waited around all day and haven't heard from them, so I just put up a new ad. This time I removed the words "High Capacity" from the title,because apparently that phrase "kills babies". When did this country become a place where you couldn't say "High Capacity Magazine" unless you were talking about the removal of someones rights or about some evil SOB who kills little children, grandmothers and baby seals? Anyway, if you want to play along here it is: (until they remove it again) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190800006371 Rick (HiCap) Bastedo From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 20:40:18 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:40:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think they just have a problem with the words: "High Capacity" as that's a catch phrase for everything evil in their very little world. They cancelled it again, and here is what they wrote to me. (It is hard to believe these people have a brain cell between the lot of them) "Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because of the following: You stated, "The factory magazine is a high-capacity design that holds 2 rounds more compared to the standard factory magazine. The longer length is what allows it to hold two additional rounds." Because of our concern for the safety of our members and because of the various state and Federal firearms laws, we have decided not to allow the sale of certain firearms parts. We realize that this is a frustrating thing to have your auction ended again. You may relist provided that the magazine truly holds 10 rounds and remove any statements that doubt that. Otherwise, please do not relist. Magazines with a capacity of 10 rounds or less may be listed. However, the capacity must be stated in the item description, or clearly visible within the images used in the listing. If there are contradicting terms (i.e. 10 rounds or less is stated, but the image shows 15) these listings may also be removed. eBay prohibits the sale of magazines that accept more than 10 rounds, typically referred to as "high capacity" magazines. These items may not be sold, regardless of how they are described in the listing." Rick (I must be an evil evil person) Bastedo On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I found I own a couple rare DE magazines so I want to sell them and add > the proceeds to the RWA Midget rebuild fund. > So I listed one on Ebay yesterday and then last night found the listing > had been cancelled and removed. > The person who removed the listing said it was due to a rules violation, > the rule is that magazines can accept only 10 rounds or less. > These are 10 round mags, as it is clearly stated in the listing title, > body and pictures. > So I called this morning, explained my point of view and the person on the > phone looked at the listing and said they would send in an appeal. > However it goes to the person who originally cancelled the listing. > I've waited around all day and haven't heard from them, so I just put up a > new ad. > This time I removed the words "High Capacity" from the title,because > apparently that phrase "kills babies". > When did this country become a place where you couldn't say "High Capacity > Magazine" unless you were talking about the removal of someones rights or > about some evil SOB who kills little children, grandmothers and baby seals? > Anyway, if you want to play along here it is: (until they remove it again) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190800006371 > > Rick (HiCap) Bastedo From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 21:00:26 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:00:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My new listing, can I be more clear that it only holds 10 or fewer? http://www.ebay.com/itm/190800086860 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I found I own a couple rare DE magazines so I want to sell them and add > the proceeds to the RWA Midget rebuild fund. > So I listed one on Ebay yesterday and then last night found the listing > had been cancelled and removed. > The person who removed the listing said it was due to a rules violation, > the rule is that magazines can accept only 10 rounds or less. > These are 10 round mags, as it is clearly stated in the listing title, > body and pictures. > So I called this morning, explained my point of view and the person on the > phone looked at the listing and said they would send in an appeal. > However it goes to the person who originally cancelled the listing. > I've waited around all day and haven't heard from them, so I just put up a > new ad. > This time I removed the words "High Capacity" from the title,because > apparently that phrase "kills babies". > When did this country become a place where you couldn't say "High Capacity > Magazine" unless you were talking about the removal of someones rights or > about some evil SOB who kills little children, grandmothers and baby seals? > Anyway, if you want to play along here it is: (until they remove it again) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190800006371 > > Rick (HiCap) Bastedo From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Feb 18 04:43:32 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 03:43:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1361187812.6103.YahooMailClassic@web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Rick, Go back to eBay and search M1 Carbine magazine. All of them are called 10 round magazines, the ProMag 10 rounders (actual 10 round mag), 15 and 30 round mags are called 10 rounders. Anyone that owns an M1 Carbine can tell. eBay people are not "gun people". As long as you say "10 rounds", they will list it. Same thing with other guns too. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 --- On Mon, 2/18/13, Rick Bastedo wrote: My new listing, can I be more clear that it only holds 10 or fewer? http://www.ebay.com/itm/190800086860 From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 18 12:43:21 2013 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:43:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them Message-ID: <1361216601.79932.YahooMailNeo@web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that caused me to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of the year for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had time in my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced all brake hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled sharply to the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this hose. Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. For all of you new Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake hoses is 10 years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses were 12 y.o. Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it could save your life. From denadave at ca.rr.com Mon Feb 18 13:34:16 2013 From: denadave at ca.rr.com (Dena & David Vrba) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:34:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New California Vintage License Plate program Message-ID: <024401ce0e17$52447d60$f6cd7820$@ca.rr.com> Good news for California Listers to get period license plates for your car. The CA DMV is orchestrating a preorder program for vintage California license plates. If they get 7500 prepaid applications ($50) by January 1, 2015 they will proceed with the program. This appears to be a good opportunity for classic car owners to get period correct plates for their cars. The link below is to the CA DMV website for ordering plates. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/newsrel/newsrel12/2012_20.htm Not as good as the "real thing original plate" utilizing the YOM feature available in CA but a lot cheaper than the $300 plus I spent to get "period" on my '62 MKll. David Vrba Corona, CA '62 Sprite MKll From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Feb 18 14:01:42 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:01:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] $9.1m Bruce Weiner Collection sale Message-ID: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3500.asp?id=16733 From grday at btinternet.com Mon Feb 18 14:20:16 2013 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:20:16 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them References: <1361216601.79932.YahooMailNeo@web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8E0B61CAB6EC45BCA510065524DA7630@user8634b3d69b> Hi all, I would endorse James' message and add a plea that you do not use hose clamps even though there are tools designed and purpose built for the job. The inner lining tube of the hose is squashed flat when the hose is clamped and at the flattened edges of the compressed section it is squashed to the point where it can begin to split and / or delaminate from the outer bracing part of the hose. By definition, for the clamp to work, the hose has to be 'abused' to this degree. This can cause a 'flap' in the pipe and dependant on which way the flap is formed fluid can either be blocked from reaching the slave cylinder or it can hold pressure so the brake is locked on and will not release. You can create the situation where pedal pressure feels to be fine but the brake(s) are not working. Mostly, you will get away with using a hose clamp but that hose has been damaged internally, it cannot be seen from the outside and it is a weak point for the future. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" <> To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them >I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that caused >me > to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of the > year > for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had time > in > my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced all > brake > hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled sharply > to > the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after > I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this > hose. > Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. > > For all of you new > Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake hoses is > 10 > years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses were 12 > y.o. > Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it could > save > your life. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6110 - Release Date: 02/17/13 From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 15:56:49 2013 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:56:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden Loss of Clutch Message-ID: While entering the freeway Thursday night for a quick run across town . . just as I was entering I lost my clutch. My brake line came away from where it was positioned and held in place (rather poorly . . obviously) and touched the positive pole on the battery . . sort of a plasma cutter reaction which burned enough of a leak in the tubing for sudden loss of signal. I ordered a new line from Moss. In the interim I stopped by the hardware store and bought about three feet of brass tubing. I cut the brake line at the point of the hole and using JB Weld on each end I snugged the slightly larger tubing over both ends. It happened to be a perfect tight fit. I bled the system and It has been holding fine as I wait for the new line to show up in the mail. Another interim shade tree repair that might prove to be "interesting." Kirk From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 16:02:09 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:02:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden Loss of Clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds unsafe. Epoxy and hydraulic pressure lines should not interact in such ways. From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 18 16:14:03 2013 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:14:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them In-Reply-To: <8E0B61CAB6EC45BCA510065524DA7630@user8634b3d69b> References: <1361216601.79932.YahooMailNeo@web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8E0B61CAB6EC45BCA510065524DA7630@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <5122B5BB.4060308@bellsouth.net> Since most of our Spridgets are not daily drivers and we use them only sporadically, I would strongly recommend that when you replace the brake hoses, that you install braided ones rather than plain rubber ones. Sure, they are more expensive, but they hold up much longer and don't exhibit the internal degradation like the stock ones do over time. The stainless steel braid protects the rubber internal hose from the elements and from kinks. Last time I bought them for my occasional driver '72 they cost about $85 for a set of two fronts and one rear. Everyone I know who vintage races a Spridget (including me and my '67) uses the braided lines on their car because a race car sits idle even more than a street car although usually in a protected, indoor environment. Cheap insurance against brake problems or failure. Hose clamps are definitely not a good idea. Bob Spruck SafetyFast Vintage Race Team On 2/18/2013 4:20 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > Hi all, > I would endorse James' message and add a plea that you do not use hose > clamps even though there are tools designed and purpose built for the > job. The inner lining tube of the hose is squashed flat when the hose > is clamped and at the flattened edges of the compressed section it is > squashed to the point where it can begin to split and / or delaminate > from the outer bracing part of the hose. By definition, for the clamp > to work, the hose has to be 'abused' to this degree. > > This can cause a 'flap' in the pipe and dependant on which way the > flap is formed fluid can either be blocked from reaching the slave > cylinder or it can hold pressure so the brake is locked on and will > not release. You can create the situation where pedal pressure feels > to be fine but the brake(s) are not working. > > Mostly, you will get away with using a hose clamp but that hose has > been damaged internally, it cannot be seen from the outside and it is > a weak point for the future. > > Guy R Day > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" <> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:43 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them > > >> I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that >> caused me >> to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of >> the year >> for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had >> time in >> my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced >> all brake >> hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled >> sharply to >> the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after >> I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this >> hose. >> Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. >> >> For all of you new >> Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake >> hoses is 10 >> years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses >> were 12 y.o. >> Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it >> could save >> your life. >> ------------------------ From schris51 at att.net Mon Feb 18 16:32:17 2013 From: schris51 at att.net (Steve Christiansen) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:32:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them In-Reply-To: <5122B5BB.4060308@bellsouth.net> References: <1361216601.79932.YahooMailNeo@web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8E0B61CAB6EC45BCA510065524DA7630@user8634b3d69b> <5122B5BB.4060308@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1361230337.28972.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I make DOT spec Stainless hoses for all of the MGs and Austin Healeys. The three line set for the Midget/Sprite runs $79.95. Mine have a kevlar protection sleeve between the inner teflon tube and the outer steel braid. I also cover the steel braid with a clear shrink tubing to keep trash, gravel dirt etc out of the steel braid to give the hoses longer life and makes them easier to clean. I can even do the shrink in colors if you want. I keep several set of the Sprite/Midget lines on the shelf all the time. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51 at att.net ________________________________ From: Bob Spruck To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them Since most of our Spridgets are not daily drivers and we use them only sporadically, I would strongly recommend that when you replace the brake hoses, that you install braided ones rather than plain rubber ones. Sure, they are more expensive, but they hold up much longer and don't exhibit the internal degradation like the stock ones do over time. The stainless steel braid protects the rubber internal hose from the elements and from kinks. Last time I bought them for my occasional driver '72 they cost about $85 for a set of two fronts and one rear. Everyone I know who vintage races a Spridget (including me and my '67) uses the braided lines on their car because a race car sits idle even more than a street car although usually in a protected, indoor environment. Cheap insurance against brake problems or failure. Hose clamps are definitely not a good idea. Bob Spruck SafetyFast Vintage Race Team On 2/18/2013 4:20 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > Hi all, > I would endorse James' message and add a plea that you do not use hose clamps even though there are tools designed and purpose built for the job. The inner lining tube of the hose is squashed flat when the hose is clamped and at the flattened edges of the compressed section it is squashed to the point where it can begin to split and / or delaminate from the outer bracing part of the hose. By definition, for the clamp to work, the hose has to be 'abused' to this degree. > > This can cause a 'flap' in the pipe and dependant on which way the flap is formed fluid can either be blocked from reaching the slave cylinder or it can hold pressure so the brake is locked on and will not release. You can create the situation where pedal pressure feels to be fine but the brake(s) are not working. > > Mostly, you will get away with using a hose clamp but that hose has been damaged internally, it cannot be seen from the outside and it is a weak point for the future. > > Guy R Day > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" <> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:43 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them > > >> I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that caused me >> to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of the year >> for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had time in >> my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced all brake >> hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled sharply to >> the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after >> I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this hose. >> Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. >> >> For all of you new >> Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake hoses is 10 >> years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses were 12 y.o. >> Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it could save >> your life. >> ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51 at att.net From bkitterer at me.com Tue Feb 19 00:49:01 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:49:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Web Site - some LBC In-Reply-To: <4087FBA26B9E4496A4CD0A6C8A578E5D@HomeComputer> References: <4087FBA26B9E4496A4CD0A6C8A578E5D@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <74613D65-C781-4D1F-9C6A-24DCB246BC2A@me.com> Hello Folks, The preliminary version of our new web site is up. The site is about our hobbies which of course includes the Sprite, other cars that I have owned and soon some of our other activities in addition to our travels. This site also contains the log pages from our 2009 to 2011 travels along with a little additional information. This is just the early version of the site but we would appreciate any comments - how does the site look, how easy is it to navigate, does it sound interesting or any other comments, positive or negative. Also let me know if you would like to be notified when new information has been added. Like the old sites I will have a notify list. The site is at: http://www.gpsztwo.net pronounced gypsy two Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue Feb 19 04:53:59 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 03:53:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Hacked! Message-ID: <1361274839.95478.YahooMailClassic@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To those of you that got spam from my email because I got hacked, sorry. I just changed my email password, so hopefully no spam for a while. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Feb 19 04:58:54 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 03:58:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] for those of us that are flying low in our Spridgets Message-ID: <1486A8FAA68A4FAFBB76D9E4B1117822@spider> Bunnies taking toll on cars at Denver airport Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:44:15 -0500 DENVER (AP) - Silly rabbits. The furry creatures are wreaking havoc on cars parked at Denver International Airport by eating spark plug cables and other wiring. To stop the problem, federal wildlife workers are removing at least 100 bunnies a month while parking companies install better fences and build perches for predator hawks and eagles. Airport spokeswoman Laura Coale says that out of 4.3 million parking transactions in 2012, three claims were submitted for rodent or rabbit damage, and none was submitted with a claim for towing. KCNC-TV (http://tinyurl.com/awjoyne ) reports there's another way to stop the damage that can cost thousands of dollars to repair. Mechanics say coating the wires with fox or coyote urine can rob the rabbits of their appetite. Fox urine can be purchased at many hunting shops. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 19 05:22:49 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:22:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hacked! In-Reply-To: <1361274839.95478.YahooMailClassic@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1361274839.95478.YahooMailClassic@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51236E99.6000105@justbrits.com> Well Mike, you "blessed" 9issa ! ! ! Thank you ! But it is the only place I've seen it. Ed From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 05:52:37 2013 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:52:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] for those of us that are flying low in our Spridgets Message-ID: <1hj25iv8itgb4e77pekn9a8h.1361278357698@email.android.com> I can see it now... A sales kiosk at the lot entrance selling spritz bottles of fox pee with maybe a brief instructional video on how to apply it playing on continuous loop at large overhead monitors... >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: Bunnies taking toll on cars at Denver airport Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:44:15 -0500 DENVER (AP) - Silly rabbits. The furry creatures are wreaking havoc on cars parked at Denver International Airport by eating spark plug cables and other wiring. To stop the problem, federal wildlife workers are removing at least 100 bunnies a month while parking companies install better fences and build perches for predator hawks and eagles. Airport spokeswoman Laura Coale says that out of 4.3 million parking transactions in 2012, three claims were submitted for rodent or rabbit damage, and none was submitted with a claim for towing. KCNC-TV (http://tinyurl.com/awjoyne ) reports there's another way to stop the damage that can cost thousands of dollars to repair. Mechanics say coating the wires with fox or coyote urine can rob the rabbits of their appetite. Fox urine can be purchased at many hunting shops. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Feb 19 15:10:44 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:10:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Message-ID: Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. A few weeks ago I went out to take the Midget for a spin up to the store and was greeted by a non functioning clutch pedal. After investigating a bit I came to the conclusion that the slave cylinder had finally given out on me. I ordered an original Lockheed rebuild kit from Peter C., did a light honing pass to clean it up and rebuilt it. After getting everything back in and buttoned up I called for my lovely assistant Susan (wife) and we set about trying to bleed it. Trying is the key here. We spent an hour plus and at least a pint of LMA trying to get it working with no luck. I see two areas in the system that contribute to problems bleeding in the traditional way. The first problem I needed to over come was the air that was trapped in the arch of the line connecting the master to the slave. On the 1500 the line is a transparent tube that arches up before heading down to the slave. The problem I was having was that the volume of fluid being sent through the line was not sufficient to move the air down the vertical rise. The air bubble would slide up past the fluid and back to the high point of the arch. Phil Jones came to my aid here by loaning me his Eezibleed system. This pressurized bleeder worked great and was able to move enough fluid under pressure to move the air bubble out of the line. Unfortunately it took up residence in the slave cylinder. The second problem I came across has to do with the bleed valve on the slave. First off it is located slightly below the high point of the cylinder so any trapped air can not flow out easily even with the rear of the car raised above the front. Adding to this is the limited space to rotate a wrench placed on the bleed valve. You're only able to open the bleed valve a slight amount to release the fluid with a flair nut wrench and hose on the bleed valve. This low flow was not enough to force the air out of the slave. What I found worked well was to use a 7/16 box wrench that could slide off over a hose on the bleed valve so I could reposition the wrench and rotated it again several times. This allowed me to open the valve much wider. This in combination with the pressure of the Eezibleed to move the fluid cleared all the air that was still trapped in the slave. >From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. Sorry if this was long winded, but I thought it might be useful to others that are having the same problem. Rich Ball '76 Midget From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Feb 19 16:18:34 2013 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:18:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system References: Message-ID: A few years ago I discovered a simple little trick to bleed those pesky clutch systems. Empty all of the fluid from the system including the master. Hook up a new pump type oil can with a foot or two of hose that fits over the slave bleed nipple. Fill the oil can with brake fluid and pump the fluid up hill to the master. It will push the air the way it wants' to go anyway, up. It worked for me, one person and one attempt. Mark Nashville Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. >From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. From schris51 at att.net Wed Feb 20 22:41:22 2013 From: schris51 at att.net (Steve Christiansen) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361425282.63695.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Rich, I know of this problem. It is the same problem Triumph has had since day one with all of the Spitfire, GT6 and Herald. The cure for bleeding a clutch is very easy. I sell a remote bleeder kit for the Midgets and Spitfires. This makes bleeding a one man process and less than a ten minute job. Bleeding can be done without jacking up the car. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51 at att.net ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. A few weeks ago I went out to take the Midget for a spin up to the store and was greeted by a non functioning clutch pedal. After investigating a bit I came to the conclusion that the slave cylinder had finally given out on me. I ordered an original Lockheed rebuild kit from Peter C., did a light honing pass to clean it up and rebuilt it. After getting everything back in and buttoned up I called for my lovely assistant Susan (wife) and we set about trying to bleed it. Trying is the key here. We spent an hour plus and at least a pint of LMA trying to get it working with no luck. I see two areas in the system that contribute to problems bleeding in the traditional way. The first problem I needed to over come was the air that was trapped in the arch of the line connecting the master to the slave. On the 1500 the line is a transparent tube that arches up before heading down to the slave. The problem I was having was that the volume of fluid being sent through the line was not sufficient to move the air down the vertical rise. The air bubble would slide up past the fluid and back to the high point of the arch. Phil Jones came to my aid here by loaning me his Eezibleed system. This pressurized bleeder worked great and was able to move enough fluid under pressure to move the air bubble out of the line. Unfortunately it took up residence in the slave cylinder. The second problem I came across has to do with the bleed valve on the slave. First off it is located slightly below the high point of the cylinder so any trapped air can not flow out easily even with the rear of the car raised above the front. Adding to this is the limited space to rotate a wrench placed on the bleed valve. You're only able to open the bleed valve a slight amount to release the fluid with a flair nut wrench and hose on the bleed valve. This low flow was not enough to force the air out of the slave. What I found worked well was to use a 7/16 box wrench that could slide off over a hose on the bleed valve so I could reposition the wrench and rotated it again several times. This allowed me to open the valve much wider. This in combination with the pressure of the Eezibleed to move the fluid cleared all the air that was still trapped in the slave. >From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. Sorry if this was long winded, but I thought it might be useful to others that are having the same problem. Rich Ball '76 Midget ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51 at att.net From rbastedo at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 12:11:40 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:11:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch Message-ID: Contrast this with my recent experience bleeding the clutch on my 1980 Datsun 210. I replaced the master and the slave and bled the system. The only hard part was getting the nuts removed to pull the master, not a lot of clearance on the lower of the two. Once everything was R&R'd I filled the reservoir and put about 8 feet of tubing on the slave's nipple. Opened the bleeder and pumped a few times and topped up the fluid and pumped some more and closed the bleeder. Filled the master and put on the cap. Done! What did they do right that the Brits never could figure out? The hydraulic line goes right out of the master and then down to the slave. No bending in the line that creates high spots. That's the only difference I see, the master and slave are so close to being the same as the Spridget units it's scary. I'm tempted to measure the bolt holes to see if one will fit the other, especially since new master costs less than $30 and new slave is less than $15. Ridiculous that we have so much trouble with the Spridgets. Even on my Midget with the Datsun transmission and clutch slave since it has the British master cylinder it's a nightmare to bleed. Rick Bastedo From: Steve Christiansen > To: Richard Ball > "spridgets at autox.team.net" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the > 1500 clutch system > > Rich, > I know of this problem. It is the same problem Triumph has had since > day one with all of the Spitfire, GT6 and Herald. The cure for bleeding a > clutch is very easy. I sell a remote bleeder kit for the Midgets and > Spitfires. This makes bleeding a one man process and less than a ten minute > job. Bleeding can be done without jacking up the car. > > Steve Christiansen > Ol > Phartz Partz > 714-686-1236 > ________________________________ > From: Richard Ball > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:10 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions > for bleeding the 1500 clutch system > > Observations and impressions for > bleeding the 1500 clutch system > > There have been a few threads posted to the > forums recently on problems > bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch > system. Since I just recently had > similar issues I thought I would post my > observations, impressions and > solutions. > From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Feb 22 05:17:33 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:17:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch Message-ID: Had about 20 years to learn from the mistakes of others? In a message dated 21/02/2013 19:14:36 GMT Standard Time, rbastedo at gmail.com writes: What did they do right that the Brits never could figure out? From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 10:20:13 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:20:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, they were very good at that. I've found their A series motor copies to be extremely bullet proof. When matched with a decent pair of British SU's and nestled into the engine bay of a Midget they get right out and scoot. Except for the "Nissan" on the valve cover they look right at home in there too. And of course there's no mucking about with adapters to get a 5 speed transmission mounted behind them. Now, can I get the Datsun clutch master to fit? I've got to do a little measuring. I know the part that goes through the firewall looks just like the one for the Midget so I think it really will come down to bolt hole spacing. And of course a little pipe rerouting but that should be trivial. If someone else has already looked into this please chime in. Rick Bastedo On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:17 AM, wrote: > ** > Had about 20 years to learn from the mistakes of others? > > In a message dated 21/02/2013 19:14:36 GMT Standard Time, > rbastedo at gmail.com writes: > > What did they do right that the Brits never could figure out? From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 22 10:27:38 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:27:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Motorhead 101 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5127AA8A.1020108@justbrits.com> Lin, this in late yesterday and what YOU need to do TO your 'truck' ! ! ! ! ! On 2/21/2013 7:57 PM, Rick F. wrote: > 1963 Volkswagen VW ! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Volkswagen-VW-Custom-Shorty-Pickup-Truck-/160977958124?ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123&item=160977958124&forcev4exp=true or http://tinyurl.com/a8l5wxf Anon From cmlove at knology.net Fri Feb 22 11:02:24 2013 From: cmlove at knology.net (cmlove at knology.net) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:02:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change In-Reply-To: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> I lurk mostly but was wondering if someone could help me with this. Of those that have the 5 speed tranny. How do you get the oil into the tranny? Monty Love From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 11:06:17 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:06:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change In-Reply-To: <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: <1361556377.50491.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I run a clear rubber tube down to the fill hole and fill it from the top. Make sure you have your drain pan underneath! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: "cmlove at knology.net" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:02 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change I lurk mostly but was wondering if someone could help me with this. Of those that have the 5 speed tranny. How do you get the oil into the tranny? Monty Love ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From rich_ball at mindspring.com Fri Feb 22 11:36:58 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:36:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) References: Message-ID: I have an older National brand type 400 cutting torch, free for the cost of shipping, to whoever can use it. The valves are stiff but probably repairable, the lever seems to work. It was headed to the recycle bin and I just thought it would be shame to see it melted down. I already have a cutting torch, so I thought someone here might want it. If no one here wants it I'll offer it up on Garage Journal. Here are a couple shots of it. http://s169.beta.photobucket.com/user/fish_surgeon/media/IMG_2841.jpg.html http://s169.beta.photobucket.com/user/fish_surgeon/media/IMG_2840.jpg.html Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From rich_ball at mindspring.com Fri Feb 22 12:30:19 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:30:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) Message-ID: Torch has been claimed. Thanks for the response. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From rich_ball at mindspring.com Fri Feb 22 13:16:49 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:16:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system References: <1361425282.63695.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for all the input on this. Some have novel approaches such as removing the slave, removing the master, reverse flow, remote bleeder, Chanting, etc... Now that I have experienced the problem and theorized the process I still think the pressure bleed is the way to go as far as forcing air out. It is a simple solution that does not require removing parts. Reverse bleeding would be similar. I think I might look into adding a remote bleed like Steve mentioned in the future to keep from having to get under the car. Thanks again for the input. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Christiansen To: Richard Ball ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Rich, I know of this problem. It is the same problem Triumph has had since day one with all of the Spitfire, GT6 and Herald. The cure for bleeding a clutch is very easy. I sell a remote bleeder kit for the Midgets and Spitfires. This makes bleeding a one man process and less than a ten minute job. Bleeding can be done without jacking up the car. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51 at att.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Richard Ball To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. A few weeks ago I went out to take the Midget for a spin up to the store and was greeted by a non functioning clutch pedal. After investigating a bit I came to the conclusion that the slave cylinder had finally given out on me. I ordered an original Lockheed rebuild kit from Peter C., did a light honing pass to clean it up and rebuilt it. After getting everything back in and buttoned up I called for my lovely assistant Susan (wife) and we set about trying to bleed it. Trying is the key here. We spent an hour plus and at least a pint of LMA trying to get it working with no luck. I see two areas in the system that contribute to problems bleeding in the traditional way. The first problem I needed to over come was the air that was trapped in the arch of the line connecting the master to the slave. On the 1500 the line is a transparent tube that arches up before heading down to the slave. The problem I was having was that the volume of fluid being sent through the line was not sufficient to move the air down the vertical rise. The air bubble would slide up past the fluid and back to the high point of the arch. Phil Jones came to my aid here by loaning me his Eezibleed system. This pressurized bleeder worked great and was able to move enough fluid under pressure to move the air bubble out of the line. Unfortunately it took up residence in the slave cylinder. The second problem I came across has to do with the bleed valve on the slave. First off it is located slightly below the high point of the cylinder so any trapped air can not flow out easily even with the rear of the car raised above the front. Adding to this is the limited space to rotate a wrench placed on the bleed valve. You're only able to open the bleed valve a slight amount to release the fluid with a flair nut wrench and hose on the bleed valve. This low flow was not enough to force the air out of the slave. What I found worked well was to use a 7/16 box wrench that could slide off over a hose on the bleed valve so I could reposition the wrench and rotated it again several times. This allowed me to open the valve much wider. This in combination with the pressure of the Eezibleed to move the fluid cleared all the air that was still trapped in the slave. From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. Sorry if this was long winded, but I thought it might be useful to others that are having the same problem. Rich Ball '76 Midget ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51 at att.net From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Feb 22 15:37:56 2013 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:37:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004101ce114d$4276f7d0$c764e770$@wi.rr.com> You mean...passed? Eh. Long week. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ball Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:30 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) Torch has been claimed. Thanks for the response. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cmanuel at wi.rr.com From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Feb 22 17:20:13 2013 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:20:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change In-Reply-To: <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: <946316543.20130222162013@pacifier.com> Hello Cmlove, I get a bottle pump and pump it up into the side plug. I make sure that the side plug will come loose before I drain the tranny. Last time I could NOT get that plug loose. I didn't have a way to get the car high enough to be able to get enough leverage to loosen it. I had to take it to a shop with a lift. They had to use a long wrench and a 3 foot cheater to get it to budge. It did come out without any damage, but WOW was it tight. YMMV -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" As my grandfather had said in his last words, "A TRUCK!" From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Feb 23 04:53:23 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:53:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars Message-ID: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=290868569433 From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 07:12:23 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 06:12:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars In-Reply-To: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> Message-ID: <1361628743.82280.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> That is stunning.... Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: "corvallis at peoplepc.com" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:53 AM Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=290868569433 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Feb 23 14:15:10 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:15:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change In-Reply-To: <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: Use Redline MT-90 in the 5 speed. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmlove at knology.net Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:02 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change I lurk mostly but was wondering if someone could help me with this. Of those that have the 5 speed tranny. How do you get the oil into the tranny? Monty Love ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Feb 23 15:17:55 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:17:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars In-Reply-To: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> Message-ID: <51294013.2080803@wi.net> I've seen this car! Why would one start the bid at $200!! Furthermore, why is it on eBay??? .....unless this isn't the real deal? Curious Cheesehead On 2/23/2013 5:53 AM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > > &item=290868569433 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 16:23:20 2013 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:23:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars In-Reply-To: <51294013.2080803@wi.net> References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> <51294013.2080803@wi.net> Message-ID: <1361661800.14847.YahooMailNeo@web141401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Wondered the same, Dave. Seems like something that should roll across a high-dollar auction stage, or simply put the word out among affluent sporty-car folks that it is available for purchase. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think eBay is the proper place for historical rare cars. Maybe I'm wrong there, but that's the just my impression of the kind of car that does well there. Maybe through Hemmings? A sign in the window in the parking lot at Pebble Beach? - David Booker ________________________________ From: dwoerpel To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars I've seen this car! Why would one start the bid at $200!! Furthermore, why is it on eBay??? .....unless this isn't the real deal? Curious Cheesehead On 2/23/2013 5:53 AM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > > &item=290868569433 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 23 17:50:35 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:50:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars In-Reply-To: <51294013.2080803@wi.net> References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> <51294013.2080803@wi.net> Message-ID: <512963DB.7020304@justbrits.com> << On 2/23/2013 4:17 PM, dwoerpel wrote: I've seen this car! >> I'd almost bet good money I know where, Dave ? ! ? << Why would one start the bid at $200!! >> Ya could 'start' at $ 0.01 as long as Reserve is $ 2,500,000.00 ! ! << Furthermore, why is it on eBay??? >> "toe in the water" with out taking SERIOUS 'chance' at B-J ? ? ? << .....unless this isn't the real deal? >> Guess "time will tell" ? ! ? Or "money talks and BULL SH*T walks" ? ? ? From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 22 20:43:27 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:43:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change In-Reply-To: <946316543.20130222162013@pacifier.com> References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <946316543.20130222162013@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <51283ADF.70008@justbrits.com> << On 2/22/2013 6:20 PM, Bill L wrote: ... and pump it up into the side plug. >> I'm curious Bill, how much oil does the plug hold ? ? ? From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 11:02:55 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:02:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road Message-ID: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for restoration. You never know. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ From lists at dinospider.com Tue Feb 26 11:12:27 2013 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:12:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road In-Reply-To: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> ok, I am really opening up a can of worms here... I am sorry that you "have" to sell your car but what happened to the money you made ? you don't pay taxes on imaginary money, you pay taxes on money you actually earned, so what happened to it ? Because you did not save enough is not a reason to sell the car for the reasons you stated, you simply did not save enough. Only the government deals with imaginary money, we deal in hard currency and can easily do the math. And before anyone rips me (which I know they will), I am so against our current POTUS and our tax system its not funny and especially our welfare system for both non-workers and foreign countries, but I make money and I save off money for the taxes, some of it is removed from my paycheck automatically and I save off the rest to make it 40% of what I made to pay my taxes, sometimes it works out to less then 40% and I go on vacations, sometimes I give it all up but the point is I saved for it, we all know exactly (or at least can know if we do the math) what we will pay at the end of the year based on our income. mike On 02/26/2013 10:02 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we > are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad > to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones > handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little > "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, > down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for > restoration. You never know. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Feb 26 11:28:42 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:28:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road In-Reply-To: <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> Message-ID: yeah but I wanna buy cool stuff! I don't wanna save money.. don't make me do it.. I mean maybe I could buy a Ferrari! .. or a Dino at least.. ;-) Lester .. Did I tell you about the large Ultrasonic cleaner I picked up 2 weeks ago?? On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:12 27PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > ok, I am really opening up a can of worms here... > > I am sorry that you "have" to sell your car but what happened to the money you made ? you don't pay taxes on imaginary money, you pay taxes on money you actually earned, so what happened to it ? Because you did not save enough is not a reason to sell the car for the reasons you stated, you simply did not save enough. > > Only the government deals with imaginary money, we deal in hard currency and can easily do the math. > > And before anyone rips me (which I know they will), I am so against our current POTUS and our tax system its not funny and especially our welfare system for both non-workers and foreign countries, but I make money and I save off money for the taxes, some of it is removed from my paycheck automatically and I save off the rest to make it 40% of what I made to pay my taxes, sometimes it works out to less then 40% and I go on vacations, sometimes I give it all up but the point is I saved for it, we all know exactly (or at least can know if we do the math) what we will pay at the end of the year based on our income. > > mike > > On 02/26/2013 10:02 AM, Edward Perez wrote: >> Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we >> are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad >> to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones >> handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little >> "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, >> down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for >> restoration. You never know. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 12:09:07 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:09:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road In-Reply-To: References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <1361905747.47363.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I don't really care to go into the details of it all. Let's say by moving up one tax bracket, it made life very painful. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ To: Mailing List Spridgets Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road yeah but I wanna buy cool stuff! I don't wanna save money.. don't make me do it.. I mean maybe I could buy a Ferrari! .. or a Dino at least.. ;-) Lester .. Did I tell you about the large Ultrasonic cleaner I picked up 2 weeks ago?? On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:12 27PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > ok, I am really opening up a can of worms here... > > I am sorry that you "have" to sell your car but what happened to the money you made ? you don't pay taxes on imaginary money, you pay taxes on money you actually earned, so what happened to it ? Because you did not save enough is not a reason to sell the car for the reasons you stated, you simply did not save enough. > > Only the government deals with imaginary money, we deal in hard currency and can easily do the math. > > And before anyone rips me (which I know they will), I am so against our current POTUS and our tax system its not funny and especially our welfare system for both non-workers and foreign countries, but I make money and I save off money for the taxes, some of it is removed from my paycheck automatically and I save off the rest to make it 40% of what I made to pay my taxes, sometimes it works out to less then 40% and I go on vacations, sometimes I give it all up but the point is I saved for it, we all know exactly (or at least can know if we do the math) what we will pay at the end of the year based on our income. > > mike > > On 02/26/2013 10:02 AM, Edward Perez wrote: >> Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we >> are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad >> to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones >> handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little >> "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, >> down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for >> restoration. You never know. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From lbcs at embarqmail.com Tue Feb 26 13:59:14 2013 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller - LBCs) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:59:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road In-Reply-To: <1361905747.47363.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> <1361905747.47363.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01ce1464$22dd59e0$68980da0$@embarqmail.com> No explanations are necessary. . . Best of luck. -----Original Message----- I don't really care to go into the details of it all. Let's say by moving up one tax bracket, it made life very painful. From ridleymj at brant.net Tue Feb 26 14:43:35 2013 From: ridleymj at brant.net (Martyn Ridley) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:43:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Message-ID: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> Sell the wife, keep the car. Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in Canada, " nuf" said. Cheers, Martyn From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 16:35:10 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:35:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD In-Reply-To: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> References: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> Message-ID: <1361921710.69641.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I've always paid my taxes and appreciate the country I live in and the opportunities I've been given. WTF is up with all the offensive comments here?!?! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Sell the wife, keep the car. Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in Canada, " nuf" said. Cheers, Martyn ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 17:13:07 2013 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:13:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD In-Reply-To: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> References: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> Message-ID: <1361923987.85773.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I don't know you. Never heard of you on this forum. You don't know me. Do us all a favor and keep your opinions and yourself in Canada. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Sell the wife, keep the car. Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in Canada, " nuf" said. Cheers, Martyn ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Feb 26 17:17:45 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:17:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <92348B9769A14329BC5632D95ECA70F3@psych.washington.edu> Hey Ed, Sorry to hear about the car. Be sure to document what you've done to it when you go to sell. You have put a lot of effort into that thing. Go take a weekend run on the Tail of the Dragon before you sell it since your in that neck of the woods now. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "4- Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road > Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, > we > are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm > sad > to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell > phones > handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little > "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, > down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for > restoration. You never know. > > > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget > (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Feb 26 17:19:37 2013 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? Message-ID: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Is this anyone on the list? http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Feb 26 17:24:18 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:24:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD In-Reply-To: <1361921710.69641.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> <1361921710.69641.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44909F0B-BD92-4629-9632-B0216F22241A@chartermi.net> I agree Edward - don't understand the acrimony here. I've been caught out before too. Sometimes despite your best plans things change and you have to do whatever you can to catch up. Good luck. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > I've always paid my taxes and appreciate the country I live in and the > opportunities I've been given. WTF is up with all the offensive comments > here?!?! > > > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > > > ________________________________ > From: Martyn Ridley > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: > Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:43 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD > > Sell > the wife, keep the car. > > > Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you > don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who > would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in > Canada, " nuf" said. > > Cheers, > Martyn > ------------------------ > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested > annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Feb 26 17:32:01 2013 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:32:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road In-Reply-To: <1361905747.47363.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> <1361905747.47363.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1506740693.20130226163201@pacifier.com> Hello Edward, Sorry to hear you have to sell. In the not too distant future you will be sad that you no longer have the car. See if there IS some other way...... Sound like you got hit by the A.M.T. ? You question the animosity of other's posts. YOU brought politics into the forum. We all get along a little better when we stick to Spridgets. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Constants aren't; variables don't. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Feb 26 19:54:16 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:54:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? In-Reply-To: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net> $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 26 20:05:23 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:05:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? In-Reply-To: <35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net> References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net> Message-ID: <478B98FF0A3245289D92B6A5D7973EED@HomePC> No, $24,900. But you could probably get him down to $24,000. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Feb 26 20:45:15 2013 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:45:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? In-Reply-To: <478B98FF0A3245289D92B6A5D7973EED@HomePC> References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net> <478B98FF0A3245289D92B6A5D7973EED@HomePC> Message-ID: <0D0AE798560846038DD10897A0F98F0B@leosHP> I hate to break the news to everyone but the days of cheap bugeyes is slowly fading away... I donbt know how many of the people on here seen Iris but when I sold her I got 25K for her. It was a premium price but if I hadn't got that price she would still be in the garage as it was the least I was going to take for her. I think I could have gotten more if I had consigned with an auction house. I had a deal lined up for a 1966 BJ8 (yea I know I crossed over to the dark side) but I wanted a car more suited to long distance drives. Speaking of which I have another bugeye project that I am looking to get rid of if anyone is interested. Nice body in primer (probably the most perfect bonnet I have ever seen besides an NOS one. Lots of NOS parts and new parts along with loads of spares (basically all of the bugeye parts I had squirreled away. Has 5 NEW wire wheels, all the parts for disc conversion and wire wheel change over. The only rust in the tub is the lower parts of the A posts. contact me off list if interested Leo -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:05 PM To: Jay Fishbein ; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? No, $24,900. But you could probably get him down to $24,000. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 26 20:56:20 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:56:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? In-Reply-To: <0D0AE798560846038DD10897A0F98F0B@leosHP> References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net><478B98FF0A3245289D92B6A5D7973EED@HomePC> <0D0AE798560846038DD10897A0F98F0B@leosHP> Message-ID: Leo, I have never seen Iris, but I have heard about your car. Given that, there is a difference between Iris and this car. More power to you for getting 25K, but this owner would need a gun to match that. -----Original Message----- From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:45 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? I hate to break the news to everyone but the days of cheap bugeyes is slowly fading away... I donbt know how many of the people on here seen Iris but when I sold her I got 25K for her. It was a premium price but if I hadn't got that price she would still be in the garage as it was the least I was going to take for her. I think I could have gotten more if I had consigned with an auction house. I had a deal lined up for a 1966 BJ8 (yea I know I crossed over to the dark side) but I wanted a car more suited to long distance drives. Speaking of which I have another bugeye project that I am looking to get rid of if anyone is interested. Nice body in primer (probably the most perfect bonnet I have ever seen besides an NOS one. Lots of NOS parts and new parts along with loads of spares (basically all of the bugeye parts I had squirreled away. Has 5 NEW wire wheels, all the parts for disc conversion and wire wheel change over. The only rust in the tub is the lower parts of the A posts. contact me off list if interested Leo -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:05 PM To: Jay Fishbein ; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? No, $24,900. But you could probably get him down to $24,000. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 27 06:57:02 2013 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:57:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cheap Bugeyes Message-ID: <1361973422.34651.YahooMailNeo@web162604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I can see also aftermarket springs on this BE. Rear end extra high in the air. Nice example but nowhere near the quality of Leo's BE, Iris. Glad I've got Bugsy II purchased. Yes he is a kit of parts to be reassembled but lots of upside potential. Now to figure out how to sneak another BE into the garage at the lake that I know about for a really good price and not let SWMBO know until it's in there. Yes honey, I need it for spare parts. From dwilson at eatechnical.com Wed Feb 27 07:55:03 2013 From: dwilson at eatechnical.com (Wilson, Doug) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:55:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road Message-ID: Actually if you own a business that requires tangible assets (equipment/infrastructure) or is growing, you can be responsible for taxes on "cash" that you do not have. This may be a little difficult for the politicians or academics to understand , but it does result in fewer small and middle sized companies in the US and lower job growth. When money was easy and banks were lending this was not a major problem for the people that were willing to take the risk, but now that banks have been converted into "utilities" it is a pretty big deal. The pain is magnified if you pay taxes on an accrual basis and you are growing. On the other side of the coin some of the temporary measures help with accelerated depreciation, but it is pretty scary to build a business plan around temporary measures especially when you have a POTUS that is clueless and disinterested in business and commerce. Milton Friedman (Nobel Lariat) wrote some pretty books on this subject. It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing this; the British tried all of the measures that we are currently adopting many years ago and proved without a doubt that it doesn't work. They went from being a world leader to a basket case and while Thatcher was able to slow the decline, the country really never recovered. -- Doug Wilson This email, and any documents which may accompany it, contain information which is intended for use only by the individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message or its substance is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact me immediately to arrange for return or destruction. Thank you. From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Feb 27 08:06:29 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:06:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361977589.34608.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Most off-topic threads on the internet are nothing more than drive-by rants perpetrated by people who don't possess the authority to write on the various subjects. But it has become norm for unsubstantiated opinion to be passed-on as fact. jay ________________________________ From: "Wilson, Doug" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, February 27, 2013 9:55:03 AM Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing this; From peter at nosimport.com Wed Feb 27 08:14:37 2013 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:14:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road In-Reply-To: <1361977589.34608.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1361977589.34608.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20130227151439.5A234F44109@mx2.netinteraction.com> Jay, I have to take issue with your statement below. "Internet" should be capitalized. Peter C = At 09:06 AM 2/27/2013, Jay wrote: >Most off-topic threads on the internet are nothing more than drive-by rants >perpetrated by people who don't possess the authority to write on the various >subjects. > > >But it has become norm for unsubstantiated opinion to be passed-on as fact. > jay > > > > >________________________________ >From: "Wilson, Doug" >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Wed, February 27, 2013 9:55:03 AM >Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road > > > >It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing this; >------------------------ From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Feb 27 08:19:33 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:19:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road In-Reply-To: <20130227151439.5A234F44109@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <1361977589.34608.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130227151439.5A234F44109@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <6FF4EB2D-44C1-4D0D-8C41-5B34524BC90B@snet.net> See what I mean? Jay On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Jay, > I have to take issue with your statement below. "Internet" should be capitalized. > > Peter C > = > At 09:06 AM 2/27/2013, Jay wrote: >> Most off-topic threads on the internet are nothing more than drive-by rants >> perpetrated by people who don't possess the authority to write on the various >> subjects. >> >> >> But it has become norm for unsubstantiated opinion to be passed-on as fact. >> jay From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 11:43:47 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:43:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Much as I own the mineral rights to my property. There have been gas wells all around north Texas, harvesting natural gas. 5 or 6 years ago, I signed a lease, and was to receive a portion of the revenue, when they started drilling. They have not started drilling yet, BUT, I am being taxed every year, on POSSIBLE income, that I am not receiving. What a line of SHIT this is... On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Wilson, Doug wrote: > Actually if you own a business that requires tangible assets > (equipment/infrastructure) or is growing, you can be responsible for taxes > on "cash" that you do not have. This may be a little difficult for the > politicians or academics to understand , but it does result in fewer small > and middle sized companies in the US and lower job growth. When money was > easy and banks were lending this was not a major problem for the people > that were willing to take the risk, but now that banks have been converted > into "utilities" it is a pretty big deal. The pain is magnified if you pay > taxes on an accrual basis and you are growing. On the other side of the > coin some of the temporary measures help with accelerated depreciation, but > it is pretty scary to build a business plan around temporary measures > especially when you have a POTUS that is clueless and disinterested in > business and commerce. Milton Friedman (Nobel Lariat) wrote some pretty > books on this subject. > > It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing > this; the British tried all of the measures that we are currently adopting > many years ago and proved without a doubt that it doesn't work. They went > from being a world leader to a basket case and while Thatcher was able to > slow the decline, the country really never recovered. > > -- > Doug Wilson > > This email, and any documents which may accompany it, contain information > which is intended for use only by the individual to whom it is addressed, > and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt > from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not > the intended recipient any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, > copying or other use of this message or its substance is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact me > immediately to arrange for return or destruction. Thank you. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/