From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Apr 1 19:21:52 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SpriteSpot Message-ID: <1364865712.58579.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Is anyone else having problems with SpriteSpot? I have been unable to login since January and the administrator hasn't been any help. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Apr 1 21:15:07 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 23:15:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SpriteSpot In-Reply-To: <1364865712.58579.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1364865712.58579.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <08448655-7CD0-483C-82BA-2D8587AB5E2E@chartermi.net> I registered with SpriteSpot years ago, but have forgotten my password. I have tried several times over the last few months to get a response from the admin, but have gotten nothing. I tried 3 times to register a new login and have gotten nowhere. It's a ghost site that rambles on, but no one is steering any longer. Too bad. Sent from my keyboard On Apr 1, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Jay wrote: > Is anyone else having problems with SpriteSpot? > > I have been unable to login since January and the administrator hasn't been any > help. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From mark at bradakis.com Mon Apr 1 21:41:35 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:41:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SpriteSpot In-Reply-To: <08448655-7CD0-483C-82BA-2D8587AB5E2E@chartermi.net> References: <1364865712.58579.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <08448655-7CD0-483C-82BA-2D8587AB5E2E@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <515A536F.8090007@bradakis.com> Rick Fisk wrote: > I registered with SpriteSpot years ago, but have forgotten my password. I > have tried several times over the last few months to get a response from the > admin, but have gotten nothing. I tried 3 times to register a new login and > have gotten nowhere. It's a ghost site that rambles on, but no one is > steering any longer. Too bad. > > You mean there is someone out there with even worse customer service than me? mjb. From mark at bradakis.com Mon Apr 1 22:58:49 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:58:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SpriteSpot In-Reply-To: <08448655-7CD0-483C-82BA-2D8587AB5E2E@chartermi.net> References: <1364865712.58579.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <08448655-7CD0-483C-82BA-2D8587AB5E2E@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <515A6589.1030005@bradakis.com> On a more serious note, did SpriteSpot provide a service that is no longer available, but could be handled by Team.Net? mjb. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Apr 2 05:18:30 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:18:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SpriteSpot In-Reply-To: <515A6589.1030005@bradakis.com> References: <1364865712.58579.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <08448655-7CD0-483C-82BA-2D8587AB5E2E@chartermi.net> <515A6589.1030005@bradakis.com> Message-ID: SpriteSpot is setup as a conventional forum with numerous categories and sections including a gallery and classifieds. Jay On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > On a more serious note, did SpriteSpot provide a service that is no longer > available, but could be handled by Team.Net? From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Apr 2 08:54:47 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:54:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SpriteSpot In-Reply-To: <515A6589.1030005@bradakis.com> References: <1364865712.58579.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <08448655-7CD0-483C-82BA-2D8587AB5E2E@chartermi.net> <515A6589.1030005@bradakis.com> Message-ID: The tech reference stuff there is very useful for quick internet lookup. The same info can be found elsewhere, but it's handy having it in one spot. Sent from my keyboard On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > On a more serious note, did SpriteSpot provide a service that is no longer > available, but could be handled by Team.Net? > > mjb. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Apr 5 15:35:26 2013 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:35:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive shaft removal Message-ID: Any secrets? I've run a 5/16-28 bolt into the threaded hole in the center. The distributor mounting collar that fits down into the block is outta there. But the drive shaft won't come out, it gets so far and appears to hit an impasse. I know it went in that way but it just doesn't want to come out. Is it just a matter of getting it aligned with a hole where there's very little clearance? Need it outta there so I can use the hole for a breather. Don't need a distributor with a crank trigger.... Hal From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Apr 6 04:26:25 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 05:26:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive shaft removal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69FC27BF-E081-4909-B4FC-946A5C6F3E33@gmail.com> Pull gently while twisting and/or while a lovely assistant gently turns the motor by hand. On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > Any secrets? I've run a 5/16-28 bolt into the threaded hole in the > center. The distributor mounting collar that fits down into the block is > outta there. But the drive shaft won't come out, it gets so far and > appears to hit an impasse. I know it went in that way but it just doesn't > want to come out. Is it just a matter of getting it aligned with a hole > where there's very little clearance? Need it outta there so I can use the > hole for a breather. Don't need a distributor with a crank trigger.... > > Hal > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Apr 6 07:24:53 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 08:24:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive shaft removal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51602225.50308@justbrits.com> Hal, besides Derf's excellent reply, SEE: http://www.justbrits.com/Articles.html 7th from bottom in Left Column, IIRC ! ! ! Tnx again, Brad ! ! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Apr 6 17:37:13 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:37:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting morning Message-ID: Martha and I were out today, hitting up a few yard sales in the Sprite. Taking the Sprite, really gives one pause to wonder if ya want it bad enough to make it fit into limited space. Turning a corner, shifting into second, the RPM's start to rise. I shut it down before it got much over 4K. A cursory glance under the bonnet, reveal that for some reason, the accelerator cable is frozen. After several attempts to free it up, I settle for a type of a setting at around 2K. Being only a half mile from Wal Mart, we limp that direction. A quick trip inside, and I buy their Bell bikefix brake and gear cable set for $7.50 out the door. Back in the parking lot, I find that the front brake cable, is an exact replacement for the accelerator cable. I carry a small tool kit in the car, as I think most owners of old cars do. I used my wire cutters to remove the barrel end off the front brake cable. The end that is left, will drop through into the footwell, without modification. The sheath is the correct length, as is the cable, at that point. Connect it to your linkage, and Bob's your uncle. It has a bit of a drag in it, but it got me home. A better option than towing, or leaving it while going for a trailer. Just thought I would share. YMMV. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Sat Apr 6 18:15:21 2013 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] nylon suspension bushings? In-Reply-To: <51561912.7070406@bradakis.com> References: <51561912.7070406@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1365293721.584.YahooMailNeo@web165005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ok i just checked my parts collection for the next car project only to find in my move (yes they are gone!) 4 lower controll arm bushings and three upper bushings are missing out of a complete set i had put away. i just finished rebuilding the two lower controll arms and have them painted. next up will be the two disc brake spindles and calipers. that will complete a whole bolt on front suspension. but now , the bushings are missing. does anyone have any broken sets or used race car bushings they'd like to share to complete my set? i had a few good used ones from years ago but they are missing as well. after my move i have not really "inventoried" all my stuff. none of it is back on shelves like i had previously kept it , i'm using the cardboard box system right now. slowly i'm sifting through the boxes only to find the above "suprise". chuck been there...broke that....fixed it....broke it again..... From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Apr 6 18:45:12 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:45:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting morning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <372561A7F90C4DF788B362B4ACD05BF8@blackbox2> I also use bike cable. If there is an upscale bike shop near you, they might have the more expensive stuff with the teflon inner coating. But you might want to try some graphite on the walmart cable you have if you feel it is draging. Your original probably frayed inside. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 7:37 PM To: Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting morning Martha and I were out today, hitting up a few yard sales in the Sprite. Taking the Sprite, really gives one pause to wonder if ya want it bad enough to make it fit into limited space. Turning a corner, shifting into second, the RPM's start to rise. I shut it down before it got much over 4K. A cursory glance under the bonnet, reveal that for some reason, the accelerator cable is frozen. After several attempts to free it up, I settle for a type of a setting at around 2K. Being only a half mile from Wal Mart, we limp that direction. A quick trip inside, and I buy their Bell bikefix brake and gear cable set for $7.50 out the door. Back in the parking lot, I find that the front brake cable, is an exact replacement for the accelerator cable. I carry a small tool kit in the car, as I think most owners of old cars do. I used my wire cutters to remove the barrel end off the front brake cable. The end that is left, will drop through into the footwell, without modification. The sheath is the correct length, as is the cable, at that point. Connect it to your linkage, and Bob's your uncle. It has a bit of a drag in it, but it got me home. A better option than towing, or leaving it while going for a trailer. Just thought I would share. YMMV. Brad From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Apr 7 13:45:20 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:45:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting morning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: umm.. isn't that a classic symptom of a bad engine ground? Starts grounding through speedo/heater cables? Lester On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Martha and I were out today, hitting up a few yard sales in the Sprite. > Taking the Sprite, really gives one pause to wonder if ya want it bad > enough to make it fit into limited space. > Turning a corner, shifting into second, the RPM's start to rise. I shut it > down before it got much over 4K. A cursory glance under the bonnet, reveal > that for some reason, the accelerator cable is frozen. After several > attempts to free it up, I settle for a type of a setting at around 2K. > Being only a half mile from Wal Mart, we limp that direction. A quick trip > inside, and I buy their Bell bikefix brake and gear cable set for $7.50 out > the door. > Back in the parking lot, I find that the front brake cable, is an exact > replacement for the accelerator cable. I carry a small tool kit in the car, > as I think most owners of old cars do. I used my wire cutters to remove the > barrel end off the front brake cable. The end that is left, will drop > through into the footwell, without modification. The sheath is the correct > length, as is the cable, at that point. Connect it to your linkage, and > Bob's your uncle. > It has a bit of a drag in it, but it got me home. A better option than > towing, or leaving it while going for a trailer. > Just thought I would share. > > YMMV. > > Brad > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > http://tequilabrad.com/ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Apr 7 14:05:40 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:05:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting morning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had seen some fraying, but no melted parts, that would have shown, should it have become my new ground. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Lester wrote: > umm.. isn't that a classic symptom of a bad engine ground? Starts > grounding through speedo/heater cables? > > Lester > > > On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > Martha and I were out today, hitting up a few yard sales in the Sprite. > > Taking the Sprite, really gives one pause to wonder if ya want it bad > > enough to make it fit into limited space. > > Turning a corner, shifting into second, the RPM's start to rise. I shut > it > > down before it got much over 4K. A cursory glance under the bonnet, > reveal > > that for some reason, the accelerator cable is frozen. After several > > attempts to free it up, I settle for a type of a setting at around 2K. > > Being only a half mile from Wal Mart, we limp that direction. A quick > trip > > inside, and I buy their Bell bikefix brake and gear cable set for $7.50 > out > > the door. > > Back in the parking lot, I find that the front brake cable, is an exact > > replacement for the accelerator cable. I carry a small tool kit in the > car, > > as I think most owners of old cars do. I used my wire cutters to remove > the > > barrel end off the front brake cable. The end that is left, will drop > > through into the footwell, without modification. The sheath is the > correct > > length, as is the cable, at that point. Connect it to your linkage, and > > Bob's your uncle. > > It has a bit of a drag in it, but it got me home. A better option than > > towing, or leaving it while going for a trailer. > > Just thought I would share. > > > > YMMV. > > > > Brad > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > http://tequilabrad.com/ > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sun Apr 7 18:40:22 2013 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 20:40:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix parts Message-ID: Anyone have 2 extra magnets that go in the collar on the dizzy shaft? It needs four and two are AWOL... Or, anyone know where to get them? Thanks, -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! 1966 Sprite for more parts From shop at justbrits.com Sun Apr 7 18:43:05 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:43:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51621299.60007@justbrits.com> << On 4/7/2013 7:40 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: Or, anyone know where to get them? >> er Kent, Pertronix ? ! ? From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Apr 7 18:45:27 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 20:45:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix parts In-Reply-To: <51621299.60007@justbrits.com> References: <51621299.60007@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <142D20EE-035F-4E82-A8EE-2EDD3B32929F@chartermi.net> I was thinking the same thing - Pertronix?!?!? :-) Sent from my keyboard On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" wrote: > << On 4/7/2013 7:40 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > > Or, anyone know where to get them? >> > > er Kent, Pertronix ? ! ? > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From cmlove at knology.net Mon Apr 8 08:07:26 2013 From: cmlove at knology.net (cmlove at knology.net) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Conversion In-Reply-To: <29697698.12357747.1365430026588.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: <575268363.12357990.1365430046856.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> I know this has probably been beat to death, but I am converting my alternator to a one wire GM alternator like the ones used on a 78 Camaro. I have read a lot of internet pages that talk about having to take it apart and shift the back of the case 180 degrees to get the mounting holes in a proper place for mounting. Has anyone done this? Is it hard to do? I never have so Ibm a little nervous about it. Is there another alternator that is a direct fit or better fit that I should be using? Thanks for the help. 1972 Midget coming back together. Monty Love Huntsville, Alabama From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 08:11:25 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:11:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Conversion In-Reply-To: <575268363.12357990.1365430046856.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> References: <29697698.12357747.1365430026588.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <575268363.12357990.1365430046856.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: They make several different version of the same alternator with different mounting points. Just find one that matches closely with what you want. I did one a while back on a 1973 Midget and IIRC it should be documented in the archives. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wrote: > I know this has probably been beat to death, but I am converting my > alternator > to a one wire GM alternator like the ones used on a 78 Camaro. I have read > a > lot of internet pages that talk about having to take it apart and shift the > back of the case 180 degrees to get the mounting holes in a proper place > for > mounting. Has anyone done this? Is it hard to do? I never have so Ib m a > little nervous about it. > > Is there another alternator that is a direct fit or better fit that I > should > be using? > > Thanks for the help. > > 1972 Midget coming back together. > > Monty Love > Huntsville, Alabama > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 08:18:09 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <29697698.12357747.1365430026588.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <575268363.12357990.1365430046856.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: >From my notes. It has been a long time. It seems like I had to cut part of the alternator and/or add spacers, but it wasn't hard and didn't take long. "GM alternator #7127 63amp or #7134 80amp The large Brown wire is the main charging lead. The smaller Brown wire measures the system voltage to tell the alternator how much to charge. The Brown/Yellow wire operates the alternator warning light, and provides the initial voltage to the alternator to start it charging when the engine first starts," Brn/Yel #1 Brn #2" On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM, derf wrote: > They make several different version of the same alternator with different > mounting points. Just find one that matches closely with what you want. > I did one a while back on a 1973 Midget and IIRC it should be documented > in the archives. > > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wrote: > >> I know this has probably been beat to death, but I am converting my >> alternator >> to a one wire GM alternator like the ones used on a 78 Camaro. I have >> read a >> lot of internet pages that talk about having to take it apart and shift >> the >> back of the case 180 degrees to get the mounting holes in a proper place >> for >> mounting. Has anyone done this? Is it hard to do? I never have so Ib m a >> little nervous about it. >> >> Is there another alternator that is a direct fit or better fit that I >> should >> be using? >> >> Thanks for the help. >> >> 1972 Midget coming back together. >> >> Monty Love >> Huntsville, Alabama >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Apr 8 13:39:55 2013 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 19:39:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Conversion In-Reply-To: <575268363.12357990.1365430046856.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: <20130408193955.73Q2N.11076.root@hrndva-web10-z02> Yes, that's the one. From previous experience, I learned two things with this model. As always with working with alternators vs generators, don't accidentally disconnect the lead to the battery while it is running. The replacement module cost me as much as what I paid for the alternator. Also, I didn't do the twist of the case. Instead I decided to take my grinder to the alternator mounting ear and create a slot to match the mount ear on my 1275. You might want to tape up the cooling fins to keep the shrapnel out of the inner workings and bearings. I think I gave Ed a photo of it a while back to post. Chris ---- cmlove at knology.net wrote: > I know this has probably been beat to death, but I am converting my alternator > to a one wire GM alternator like the ones used on a 78 Camaro. I have read a > lot of internet pages that talk about having to take it apart and shift the > back of the case 180 degrees to get the mounting holes in a proper place for > mounting. Has anyone done this? Is it hard to do? I never have so Ibm a > little nervous about it. > > Is there another alternator that is a direct fit or better fit that I should > be using? > > Thanks for the help. > > 1972 Midget coming back together. > > Monty Love > Huntsville, Alabama From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 10:37:46 2013 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:37:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] F/S - Fiberglass Flared Fender Set Message-ID: Checking to see if anyone is interested in a set of 4 (2 front/2rear) fiberglass fenders. They are flared pretty dramatically and would be great for a race car look or maybe even a real race car! The rear panels have a round arch. I can get some pics if desired. They have never been mounted but do have some minor cosmetic issues from storage. No structural isuues. The discount price to a fellow lister is $200 plus actual shipping cost for the set. Please contact me off list with any questions. Thanks! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Apr 9 11:32:21 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:32:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Top's-Down, Heat's-Up Driver Message-ID: I guess I'll need to change our insurance since Pemco seems to know me. Although they say we're spotted when the rain stops falling. That's not always true. http://www.werealotlikeyou.com/#profiles/32topsdownheatsupdriver Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From shop at justbrits.com Tue Apr 9 13:35:53 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:35:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top's-Down, Heat's-Up Driver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51646D99.9090604@justbrits.com> << On 4/9/2013 12:32 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > I guess I'll need to change our insurance since Pemco seems to know me. >> NOPE, Rich ! ! er UNLESS you have WUSSED out and have NON-stock HEATED seats ! ? ! ? Enquiring minds NEED to know ! ! ! LOL ! Ed From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Apr 9 16:49:39 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:49:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Top's-Down, Heat's-Up Driver References: <51646D99.9090604@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <048128FE422A4ECEB79AFBC37E0E9B8A@psych.washington.edu> No heated seats here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "" Just Brits " Shop" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Top's-Down, Heat's-Up Driver > << On 4/9/2013 12:32 PM, Richard Ball wrote: >> I guess I'll need to change our insurance since Pemco seems to know me. >> >> > > NOPE, Rich ! ! er UNLESS you have WUSSED out and have NON-stock HEATED > seats ! ? ! ? > > Enquiring minds NEED to know ! ! ! > > LOL ! > > Ed > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 17:32:25 2013 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:32:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top's-Down, Heat's-Up Driver In-Reply-To: <048128FE422A4ECEB79AFBC37E0E9B8A@psych.washington.edu> References: <51646D99.9090604@justbrits.com> <048128FE422A4ECEB79AFBC37E0E9B8A@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: I'm confused. My heater seems to be equally ineffective when cruising when it's 10 degrees as it does at today's 74 degrees; so why wait for 48 degrees to put the top down? I put the top down when I bought my Midget 6 years ago and have never driven it with the top up since. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > No heated seats here. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "" Just Brits " Shop" < > shop at justbrits.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Top's-Down, Heat's-Up Driver > > > << On 4/9/2013 12:32 PM, Richard Ball wrote: >> >>> I guess I'll need to change our insurance since Pemco seems to know me. >>> >> >>> >> >> NOPE, Rich ! ! er UNLESS you have WUSSED out and have NON-stock HEATED >> seats ! ? ! ? >> >> Enquiring minds NEED to know ! ! ! >> >> LOL ! >> >> Ed >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/rich_ball@**mindspring.com >> > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/tr3.4.me@**gmail.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Apr 9 23:03:11 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:03:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Conversion In-Reply-To: <575268363.12357990.1365430046856.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> References: <29697698.12357747.1365430026588.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <575268363.12357990.1365430046856.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: I am using a 1993 vintage Honda Prelude alternator. I did have to do a hacksaw cut to the aluminum housing for the mounting ear to the block. Outside of that I am quite happy with the fit and compactness of the unit. I also had to change the pulley to a single v grove type. When I was searching for the pulley, I ended up going to an alternator rebuild place near me. The guy was real knowledgeable. He said I should have come to him in the first place as he had done this type of conversion many times. So my advice is if you have a rebuilder in your area then go talk to him. They really know their stuff. You can see my alternator here... http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/getting%20close/I MGP1383-01.jpg It's funny to look at that picture, everything is so nice and tidy in that engine bay as I was restoring it. Now that I've been driving it for the past few years that engine bay don't look so pristine. Best laid plans of mice and men... If you need detail as to how it's wired then just email me. I used Frank Clarici's instructions and my generator relay box is now just a terminal block. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmlove at knology.net Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:07 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Conversion I know this has probably been beat to death, but I am converting my alternator to a one wire GM alternator like the ones used on a 78 Camaro. I have read a lot of internet pages that talk about having to take it apart and shift the back of the case 180 degrees to get the mounting holes in a proper place for mounting. Has anyone done this? Is it hard to do? I never have so Ibm a little nervous about it. Is there another alternator that is a direct fit or better fit that I should be using? Thanks for the help. 1972 Midget coming back together. Monty Love Huntsville, Alabama From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Apr 10 23:11:14 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 22:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 4-11 Message-ID: <1365657074.15408.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Today is April 11th and therefore time for us to ring our bells or more appropriately, it is time for all Spridget Listers to honk their horns. jay fishbein wallingford, CT 61 Innocenti 950 Spider 63 Pink Sprite From mark at bradakis.com Thu Apr 11 00:38:18 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:38:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting Message-ID: <51665A5A.4070703@bradakis.com> A number of you already tossed into the hat on the Weber carb deal. Thanks, you're off the hook. Here's what I'm sending to the other popular lists: April 11th, 1991 - Team.Net becomes an official domain. For a few years before that, though, the basic foundation was getting built up. It has been a long ride from those days until now. We are still here. And we can continue on for who knows how many more years? If you'd like to help Team.Net continue, consider putting a few dollars towards keeping it on the air: http://www.team.net/donations.html mjb. From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Apr 11 04:22:16 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 06:22:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4-11 In-Reply-To: <1365657074.15408.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1365657074.15408.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for beating me to posting this Jay. This day hangs over all our minds throughout the year as tears roll the closer we approach it : ( Love you, miss you Frank : ( http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/Frank_and_his_Austin_Healey_Speedwell Lin 62 deep pink Sprite still runs great thanks to Frank III On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Jay wrote: > Today is April 11th and therefore time for us to ring our bells or more > appropriately, > > it is time for all Spridget Listers to honk their horns. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, CT > 61 Innocenti 950 Spider > 63 Pink Sprite > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 11 04:23:40 2013 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:23:40 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob S Message-ID: Any body heard or know what happenend to ex pilot ex Cap'n Bob Shlaefer from New Jersey ? He had a green frogeye that his Ferrari mechanics used to look after . everything was Vizardized From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Apr 11 10:16:01 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:16:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] April 11 and 22 and counting In-Reply-To: <51665A5A.4070703@bradakis.com> References: <51665A5A.4070703@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <5166E1C1.8010404@wi.net> Hmmm, 4/11 has become a very significant date in most of our lives. The beginning of our ties with each other through our hobby and the passing of one of the "Spirits of the List". Worth another donation to me! Thank you Mark and the rest of the list(s) for making the lists a family. Here's part of my album: *http://tinyurl.com/d7xmp93 http://www1.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=6549829015/a=4424239_4424239/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/ * Pay it forward, Dave Woerpel 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 Thanks for beating me to posting this Jay. This day hangs over all our minds throughout the year as tears roll the closer we approach it : ( Love you, miss you Frank : ( http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/Frank_and_his_Austin_Healey_Speedwell Lin On 4/11/2013 1:38 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > A number of you already tossed into the hat on the Weber carb deal. > Thanks, you're off the hook. Here's what I'm sending to the other > popular lists: > > > April 11th, 1991 - Team.Net becomes an official domain. For a few > years before > that, though, the basic foundation was getting built up. It has been > a long ride > from those days until now. We are still here. > > And we can continue on for who knows how many more years? > > If you'd like to help Team.Net continue, consider putting a few dollars > towards keeping it on the air: > > http://www.team.net/donations.html > > mjb. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From donotreply at snapfish.com Thu Apr 11 10:25:59 2013 From: donotreply at snapfish.com (Lucas Mowog) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] You're invited to view my photos! Message-ID: <22727723.1365697559171.JavaMail.dev@sf1-workflow6.hob3.sfo1.snapfish.com> OK, let's try this again. Here's some of my Frank album. --------------------------------------------------- Lucas has invited you to view some photos You have 50 free prints+ A note from Lucas: OK, let's try this again. Here's some of my Frank album. View the photos: http://www1.snapfish.com/snapfish/share/p=351111365697551131/l=1181450501 5/g=4424239/cobrandOid=1000/campaignName=ShareeNewReg_30FreePrints_2010Feb/ot sc=SYE/otsi=SANR Do more with Snapfish: - Upload & Store Photos - Share with Your Network - Order prints - Create photo gifts Snapfish - the best value in photography. From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Apr 11 10:34:37 2013 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:34:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank album Message-ID: <5166E61D.1060107@wi.net> Sorry folks apparently following the snapfish instructions only results in you having to register....that sucks. Ed, can't send 50 pics to you. Sorry. Dave W. WWFD........have a beer! From mark at bradakis.com Thu Apr 11 12:28:03 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:28:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Frank album In-Reply-To: <5166E61D.1060107@wi.net> References: <5166E61D.1060107@wi.net> Message-ID: <516700B3.8020204@bradakis.com> dwoerpel wrote: > Sorry folks apparently following the snapfish instructions only > results in you having to register....that sucks. Ed, can't send 50 > pics to you. Sorry. You can put them on the Team.Net spridget forum. mjb. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Apr 11 12:47:27 2013 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Haven't heard from him in ages. I have two email addys for him... "Robert E. Shlafer" , "Robert E. Shlafer" < PilotRob at webtv.net>, Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:23 AM, EASTJONES alan < alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote: > Any body heard or know what happenend to ex pilot ex Cap'n Bob Shlaefer > from New Jersey ? > He had a green frogeye that his Ferrari mechanics used to look after . > everything was Vizardized > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Apr 11 15:23:15 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:23:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] You're invited to view my photos! In-Reply-To: <22727723.1365697559171.JavaMail.dev@sf1-workflow6.hob3.sfo1.snapfish.com> References: <22727723.1365697559171.JavaMail.dev@sf1-workflow6.hob3.sfo1.snapfish.com> Message-ID: Good try I only can see one. If anyone wants me to upload to Spritespot let me know. Lin On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Lucas Mowog wrote: > OK, let's try this again. Here's some of my Frank album. > > > --------------------------------------------------- > Lucas has invited you to view some photos > > You have 50 free prints+ > > A note from Lucas: > > OK, let's try this again. Here's some of my Frank album. > > > > View the photos: > > http://www1.snapfish.com/snapfish/share/p=351111365697551131/l=1181450501 > > 5/g=4424239/cobrandOid=1000/campaignName=ShareeNewReg_30FreePrints_2010Feb/ot > sc=SYE/otsi=SANR > > > Do more with Snapfish: > - Upload & Store Photos > - Share with Your Network > - Order prints > - Create photo gifts > > > > > Snapfish - the best value in photography. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From abcoz at hky.com Thu Apr 11 17:01:01 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:01:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00aa01ce3708$70594e10$510bea30$@hky.com> Seems like I remember some of the few knuckleheads on here treating him pretty badly the last times I saw him post. Maybe he decided he didn't need the grief. Also, I think he was dealing with some health issues at the time. Bud -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EASTJONES alan Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:24 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob S Any body heard or know what happenend to ex pilot ex Cap'n Bob Shlaefer from New Jersey ? He had a green frogeye that his Ferrari mechanics used to look after . everything was Vizardized ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/abcoz at hky.com From johnsfolly at gmail.com Thu Apr 11 19:51:45 2013 From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:51:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting Message-ID: You mean I've been hanging out since 1991 waiting for the return of Nevada Bob? JohnD -- *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing >>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:38:18 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting Message-ID: <51665A5A.4070703 at bradakis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A number of you already tossed into the hat on the Weber carb deal. Thanks, you're off the hook. Here's what I'm sending to the other popular lists: April 11th, 1991 - Team.Net becomes an official domain. For a few years before that, though, the basic foundation was getting built up. It has been a long ride from those days until now. We are still here. And we can continue on for who knows how many more years? If you'd like to help Team.Net continue, consider putting a few dollars towards keeping it on the air: http://www.team.net/donations.html mjb. From johnsfolly at gmail.com Thu Apr 11 19:57:30 2013 From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:57:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] April 11 Message-ID: A fitting tribute to F.C. Time to PayPal the wizard behind the curtain. ...And thanks for that album, Dave. JohnD -- *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing >From: dwoerpel To: spridgets at autox.team.net, MGs Subject: Re: [Spridgets] April 11 and 22 and counting Message-ID: <5166E1C1.8010404 at wi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hmmm, 4/11 has become a very significant date in most of our lives. The beginning of our ties with each other through our hobby and the passing of one of the "Spirits of the List". Worth another donation to me! Thank you Mark and the rest of the list(s) for making the lists a family. Here's part of my album: *http://tinyurl.com/d7xmp93 http://www1.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=6549829015/a=4424239_4424239/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/ * Pay it forward, Dave Woerpel 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Apr 12 04:24:40 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:24:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] April 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes great idea donated 1275 : ) BTW Dave I didn't realize I had an account but setup is easy, great photos thanks. Wow looking at the photos reminded me that Frank sure made things FUN. We must all try hard to get the FUN back into our little sport for Frank, he would want it that way. Lin On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:57 PM, JohnD wrote: > A fitting tribute to F.C. Time to PayPal the wizard behind the curtain. > ...And thanks for that album, Dave. > JohnD > -- > > *Driving in the past lane!* > JohnsfollyVintageRacing > > >From: dwoerpel > To: spridgets at autox.team.net, MGs > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] April 11 and 22 and counting > Message-ID: <5166E1C1.8010404 at wi.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hmmm, 4/11 has become a very significant date in most of our lives. The > beginning of our ties with each other through our hobby and the passing > of one of the "Spirits of the List". > Worth another donation to me! Thank you Mark and the rest of the > list(s) for making the lists a family. > > Here's part of my album: *http://tinyurl.com/d7xmp93 > > > http://www1.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=6549829015/a=4424239_4424239/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/ > * > Pay it forward, > > Dave Woerpel > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Apr 12 04:30:17 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:30:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) Message-ID: Hi Guys & Gals, Time to wipe the tears and get back to Spridget business : ), Frank would want it that way so here we go. I want this pink Sprite in Michigan : ) The body looks great as we all know I need to replace my rockers on Pinky. But sometimes these repaints have bondo under the paint. The sale is for 2 more days it is in Highland MI and I'm going to see if my nephew-in-law can take a look with a magnet unless somebody is near that location. No loss if I can't get it I'll just fire up my welder but this looks really nice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321103483990&fromMakeTrack=true#v4-40 Tell me what you think as I reply to the owner to test the rockers with a magnet, which is what I should have done with Pinky back in 2006. But I still love my LBC. Happy Spridgeting : ) Lin From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Apr 12 14:12:12 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting Message-ID: <164773.5158cacf.3e99c49c@aol.com> Montana Bob - Stop the madness! In a message dated 12/04/2013 02:54:23 GMT Daylight Time, johnsfolly at gmail.com writes: You mean I've been hanging out since 1991 waiting for the return of Nevada Bob? JohnD From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Apr 12 14:45:05 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting In-Reply-To: <164773.5158cacf.3e99c49c@aol.com> References: <164773.5158cacf.3e99c49c@aol.com> Message-ID: <1365799505.20443.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I think you may have it confused with the original Bugeye paint color, Montana Beige. jay fishbein wallingford, ct 61 Innocenti Spider 63 Pink Sprite Mk II ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" To: johnsfolly at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, April 12, 2013 4:14:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 22 and counting Montana Bob - Stop the madness! In a message dated 12/04/2013 02:54:23 GMT Daylight Time, johnsfolly at gmail.com writes: You mean I've been hanging out since 1991 waiting for the return of Nevada Bob? JohnD From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Apr 12 16:08:44 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:08:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Too bad you didn't ask about this yesterday. I was 20 miles from the car this morning on my way to Kentucky. I'm in Lousiville now and won't return to Michigan until after the sale ends. :-( Got to get my '61 Deep Pink Sprite finished soon. Sent from my keyboard On Apr 12, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Hi Guys & Gals, > Time to wipe the tears and get back to Spridget business : ), Frank would > want it that way so here we go. > > I want this pink Sprite in Michigan : ) > The body looks great as we all know I need to replace my rockers on Pinky. > But sometimes these repaints have bondo under the paint. The sale is for 2 > more days it is in Highland MI and I'm going to see if my nephew-in-law can > take a look with a magnet unless somebody is near that location. No loss if > I can't get it I'll just fire up my welder but this looks really nice. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321103483990&fr omMakeTrack=true#v4-40 > > Tell me what you think as I reply to the owner to test the rockers with a > magnet, which is what I should have done with Pinky back in 2006. But I > still love my LBC. > > Happy Spridgeting : ) > Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Apr 12 17:27:49 2013 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:27:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting In-Reply-To: <164773.5158cacf.3e99c49c@aol.com> References: <164773.5158cacf.3e99c49c@aol.com> Message-ID: Hey, I thought it was Nevada Beige that always stirred the pot! On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM, wrote: Montana Bob - Stop the madness! In a message dated 12/04/2013 02:54:23 GMT Daylight Time, johnsfolly at gmail.com writes: You mean I've been hanging out since 1991 waiting for the return of Nevada Bob? JohnD From dwramsey at att.net Fri Apr 12 17:40:37 2013 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting In-Reply-To: References: <164773.5158cacf.3e99c49c@aol.com> Message-ID: <1365810037.396.YahooMailRC@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Most people don't know that the Montana Beige bug-i's were the first that came with the chrome arrows. Crash Hey, I thought it was Nevada Beige that always stirred the pot! You mean I've been hanging out since 1991 waiting for the return of Nevada Bob? JohnD From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Apr 12 20:19:30 2013 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:19:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 22 and counting In-Reply-To: <1365810037.396.YahooMailRC@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <164773.5158cacf.3e99c49c@aol.com> <1365810037.396.YahooMailRC@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I thought that it was the pink ones.... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:40 PM, wrote: > Most people don't know that the Montana Beige bug-i's were the > first that came with the chrome arrows. > Crash > > Hey, I thought it was Nevada Beige that always stirred the pot! > > > You mean I've been hanging out since 1991 waiting for the return of > Nevada > Bob? > JohnD From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Apr 12 20:50:45 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:50:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Linda, Looks like a good restoration candidate. Dash looks very intact. Seems to be missing the brake pedal box, but I'm sure you can find one of those. I've only seen one other pink one. It suprizes me that more were not sold in this color. I wonder what the male to female ratio in sales was with these cars in the US. I tend to feel that it was mostly guys. I've known only a few folks who've bought Sprites and Midgets new. All of them were guys. This is definitely a case for keeping the original color. When I went down to visit Frank before he passed away, He had just finished painting that Midget in the "Harvest Gold". It looked awsome. It reminded me of "Bracken", which is another color that I love from that time but I have not seen for a while. Anyhow, we spent along time talking about how the original colors really date the vehicle. It's part of their character. My brother has a GT6 he is restoring. He is on the fence about what color to paint it. It's original color is "Damson Plum". I keep telling him to paint it the original color. If someone gave you a Super Bee that was in faded "Plum Crazy" how could you NOT paint it in the original color? My other brother is restoring a '74 Midget that was originally colord "Tundra". All he sees is fadded olive drab. But I know in it's original glossy it looks awsome! And it is not a common color. He wants to pain it white. Sigh.. Get yourself the rare and coveted Pink Sprite Like Mark B. and his Weber. "Life is too short for Linda to not have a Pink Sprite" From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Apr 12 21:19:15 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1365823155.53646.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> If I were looking for a Sprite, I would grab this car. I have corresponded with the seller and he is very fortcoming so I would expect he would be easy to effect a transaction. I didn't specifically ask him about the cars condition; I was only interested in pics of the car. If this car goes for less than $2,000, it's a steal IMO. You can by a lot of sh*t out there but this is the real thing. jay 61 Innocenti Spider 63 Pink Sprite Mk II To: Linda Grunthaner ; Spridget list Sent: Fri, April 12, 2013 10:50:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) Linda, Looks like a good restoration candidate. Dash looks very intact. Seems to be missing the brake pedal box, but I'm sure you can find one of those. I've only seen one other pink one. It suprizes me that more were not sold in this color. I wonder what the male to female ratio in sales was with these cars in the US. I tend to feel that it was mostly guys. I've known only a few folks who've bought Sprites and Midgets new. All of them were guys. This is definitely a case for keeping the original color. When I went down to visit Frank before he passed away, He had just finished painting that Midget in the "Harvest Gold". It looked awsome. It reminded me of "Bracken", which is another color that I love from that time but I have not seen for a while. Anyhow, we spent along time talking about how the original colors really date the vehicle. It's part of their character. My brother has a GT6 he is restoring. He is on the fence about what color to paint it. It's original color is "Damson Plum". I keep telling him to paint it the original color. If someone gave you a Super Bee that was in faded "Plum Crazy" how could you NOT paint it in the original color? My other brother is restoring a '74 Midget that was originally colord "Tundra". All he sees is fadded olive drab. But I know in it's original glossy it looks awsome! And it is not a common color. He wants to pain it white. Sigh.. Get yourself the rare and coveted Pink Sprite From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 13 07:07:53 2013 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:07:53 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] some photos ( lots actually ) and Capn Bob Message-ID: Thanks for the heads up about Cap'n Pilot Bob everybody bad about selling his frogeye I wonder where it is now bad about his health bad about court case I assume he got some compensation some photos in recompense *http://preview.tinyurl.com/bmgxu5r* ** *Alan* *Warwick UK* From bkitterer at me.com Sat Apr 13 09:01:18 2013 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:01:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] some photos ( lots actually ) and Capn Bob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3CB92A9F-F9CE-4D1F-9F61-E24B868F6370@me.com> I must have missed/not received the latest info on Cap'n Bob. Did not find it in the archives. Would some please pass this information on to me. I had a a very nice dinner with Cap'n Bob at a place in CT some years back. Thanks Bob and Dolores On Apr 13, 2013, at 6:07 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote: > Thanks for the heads up about Cap'n Pilot Bob everybody > bad about selling his frogeye I wonder where it is now > bad about his health > bad about court case > I assume he got some compensation > > some photos in recompense > > *http://preview.tinyurl.com/bmgxu5r* > ** > *Alan* > *Warwick UK* > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at me.com From abcoz at hky.com Sat Apr 13 11:43:42 2013 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:43:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] some photos ( lots actually ) and Capn Bob In-Reply-To: <3CB92A9F-F9CE-4D1F-9F61-E24B868F6370@me.com> References: <3CB92A9F-F9CE-4D1F-9F61-E24B868F6370@me.com> Message-ID: <01de01ce386e$70fd0070$52f70150$@hky.com> Yeah, I seem to have missed it, too. What's happened to him? Bud -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 11:01 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] some photos ( lots actually ) and Capn Bob I must have missed/not received the latest info on Cap'n Bob. Did not find it in the archives. Would some please pass this information on to me. I had a a very nice dinner with Cap'n Bob at a place in CT some years back. Thanks Bob and Dolores On Apr 13, 2013, at 6:07 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote: > Thanks for the heads up about Cap'n Pilot Bob everybody bad about > selling his frogeye I wonder where it is now bad about his health bad > about court case I assume he got some compensation > > some photos in recompense > > *http://preview.tinyurl.com/bmgxu5r* > ** > *Alan* > *Warwick UK* > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at me.com ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/abcoz at hky.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 13 13:40:08 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:40:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) In-Reply-To: <1365823155.53646.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1365823155.53646.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The seller replied he just went to Germany making it difficult to comunicate before the auction ends. No reply if he has a title either which was my concern. I'm most happy with my pink sprite because Frank helped me with it. She still drives great and I have my mig and UK made rockers. Back to welding but this pinky is hard to pass up. I'm sure with one day left it will go for under 2k Lin On Friday, April 12, 2013, Jay wrote: > If I were looking for a Sprite, I would grab this car. I have corresponded with > the seller and he is very fortcoming so I would expect he would be easy to > effect a transaction. > > I didn't specifically ask him about the cars condition; I was only interested in > pics of the car. > > If this car goes for less than $2,000, it's a steal IMO. > > You can by a lot of sh*t out there but this is the real thing. > > jay > 61 Innocenti Spider > 63 Pink Sprite Mk II > To: Linda Grunthaner ; Spridget list > > Sent: Fri, April 12, 2013 10:50:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) > > Linda, > > Looks like a good restoration candidate. Dash looks very intact. > Seems to be missing the brake pedal box, but I'm sure you can find one of > those. > > I've only seen one other pink one. It suprizes me that more were not sold > in this color. > I wonder what the male to female ratio in sales was with these cars in the > US. > I tend to feel that it was mostly guys. I've known only a few folks who've > bought > Sprites and Midgets new. All of them were guys. > > This is definitely a case for keeping the original color. > > When I went down to visit Frank before he passed away, He had just finished > painting that > Midget in the "Harvest Gold". It looked awsome. It reminded me of > "Bracken", which is another > color that I love from that time but I have not seen for a while. > > Anyhow, we spent along time talking about how the original colors really > date the vehicle. > It's part of their character. > > My brother has a GT6 he is restoring. He is on the fence about what color > to paint it. > It's original color is "Damson Plum". I keep telling him to paint it the > original color. > If someone gave you a Super Bee that was in faded "Plum Crazy" how could you > NOT paint it in the > original color? > > My other brother is restoring a '74 Midget that was originally colord > "Tundra". > All he sees is fadded olive drab. But I know in it's original glossy it > looks awsome! > And it is not a common color. He wants to pain it white. Sigh.. > > Get yourself the rare and coveted Pink Sprite > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Apr 13 13:49:59 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:49:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite on ebay...I want it : ) In-Reply-To: References: <1365823155.53646.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5169B6E7.40708@justbrits.com> << On 4/13/2013 2:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I'm sure with one day left it will go for under 2k >> Then GET her, Lin ! ! ! "new" and/or "new replacement titles CAN be gotten ! ! ! Ed From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat Apr 13 17:07:10 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:07:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Can't bleed new clutch master - ideas? Message-ID: I know bleeding the clutch can be a nightmare and due to my old master acting up I went ahead and ordered and replaced my clutch master cylinder. I've just spent the past couple hours trying to bleed it. I have clear tubing going from the slave back up to the master so the bubbles and fluid recirculate. I have pumped and pumped and no longer have any air bubbles. Yet when I tighten the bleeder I have no pedal at all. I have repeated this several times now with the same result. Oh and it's raining and 45 degrees F and I was soaked so I gave up until the weather breaks. Hints, clues, stories? Anything? I did bench bleed the master before starting this process. Have heard some have success disconnecting the master and getting it higher than any bend in the tubing and bleeding by hand, I will try that if it might work. Rick (worn out, cold and wet) Bastedo From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Apr 13 17:47:32 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:47:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Can't bleed new clutch master - ideas? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maybe the slave cylinder also needs work? :-( ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 4:07 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Can't bleed new clutch master - ideas? I know bleeding the clutch can be a nightmare and due to my old master acting up I went ahead and ordered and replaced my clutch master cylinder. I've just spent the past couple hours trying to bleed it. I have clear tubing going from the slave back up to the master so the bubbles and fluid recirculate. I have pumped and pumped and no longer have any air bubbles. Yet when I tighten the bleeder I have no pedal at all. I have repeated this several times now with the same result. Oh and it's raining and 45 degrees F and I was soaked so I gave up until the weather breaks. Hints, clues, stories? Anything? I did bench bleed the master before starting this process. Have heard some have success disconnecting the master and getting it higher than any bend in the tubing and bleeding by hand, I will try that if it might work. Rick (worn out, cold and wet) Bastedo ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Sat Apr 13 18:32:12 2013 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (Jeff Kelly) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Can't bleed new clutch master - ideas? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8AED5DF2E726478E9FF91935BE3475FA@Snoopy> Rick, I just this past Thursday re-bled the clutch after being left open all winter. The master was dry on the clutch side and not sure how much fluid was still in the slave. The slave was open all winter. Not a good practice, but it happened. We have a 3/4" master and 7/8" slave. This is what we did. My son (52 yrs old) under the car working the clutch bleeder. Me in the car pumping the clutch. Bleeder open - pumped very vigorously probably 20 pumps. Closed bleeder - pumped about 20 pumps. Pedal down - open bleeder., pump about 5- 10 pumps - pedal down - open bleeder. Repeat till fluid runs fairly clear. Do not recirculate the fluid. Old fluid is dirty. After about 4 repeats I began to feel pressure on the pedal. two or three more repeats and pedal is good, clutch operates as designed. This all took maybe 20 minutes Max. In 30 years working on bugeye's, I have never spent the time you describe. I suspect you are using all the pedal/piston travel to mover the fluid up to the master sylinder in the plastic tube. and when you release the pedal, it pulls the fluid back out of the line fron the master to the slave. BTW, it was 40 deg's and sleeting in Mich. when I did this. But, we were inside dry at about 50 deg. Good luck, hope you get it done. Jeff Kelly -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 6:47 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Can't bleed new clutch master - ideas? Maybe the slave cylinder also needs work? :-( ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 4:07 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Can't bleed new clutch master - ideas? I know bleeding the clutch can be a nightmare and due to my old master acting up I went ahead and ordered and replaced my clutch master cylinder. I've just spent the past couple hours trying to bleed it. I have clear tubing going from the slave back up to the master so the bubbles and fluid recirculate. I have pumped and pumped and no longer have any air bubbles. Yet when I tighten the bleeder I have no pedal at all. I have repeated this several times now with the same result. Oh and it's raining and 45 degrees F and I was soaked so I gave up until the weather breaks. Hints, clues, stories? Anything? I did bench bleed the master before starting this process. Have heard some have success disconnecting the master and getting it higher than any bend in the tubing and bleeding by hand, I will try that if it might work. Rick (worn out, cold and wet) Bastedo ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye at gmail.com From doug_altman at yahoo.com Sun Apr 14 08:01:52 2013 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 07:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Mechanic Message-ID: <1365948112.92239.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Listers - I sold my Bugeye to a guy near Vancouver/Lions Bay, Canada. He says he is not too mechnaically inclined. Does anyone know of a good LBC mechanic in that area in case he needs help? Thanks. Doug ....o~'o From brucehamper at gmail.com Sun Apr 14 16:51:54 2013 From: brucehamper at gmail.com (Bruce Hamper) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 17:51:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bleeding the clutch Message-ID: <0DDCA271-308F-4FCC-996A-D88A0274B582@gmail.com> Hey Rick, Here's what I do. Bench bleed the master and have it mounted and ready in the car. leave the hose off of the master. I remove the slave cylinder from its mount but leave it dangling from the flexible hose. I take out the piston and fill the cylinder with brake fluid. Put a small container under the hose at the master cylinder end. Reinstall the Slave and push the fluid up the tube to the container. It helps if someone can help at this point so that you don't get fluid all over the place. but I have done it successfully by myself. Attach the upper end of the plumbing to the master. Most times I don't even have to 'pump and bleed' the pedal after doing this. I've done it this way with the old single brake clutch cylinder and the newer clutch master. Works every time and forces you to check out the slave! Bruce in St Louis From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Apr 14 18:54:42 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 17:54:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Master - Success! Message-ID: No old fluid, purged that out first - only recirculated good clean fluid. Here's the deal, this has a Datsun slave cylinder on a Datsun transmission. I called Bill M. this morning after trying and failing some more. According to Bill I needed to get a bike tire pump and a long piece of tubing. Then hang the end of the tubing up as far as possible and pump until the fluid was up to the top. Then using the tire pump force the fluid back through the slave and up into the master reservoir. If I did it right I'd see bubbles in the reservoir. So I did this several times, saw bubbles, then after there were no more bubbles I got Peter out to help me with the good old: "Down" he pushes the pedal down and holds it while I open the bleeder to let out bubbles and then close the bleeder "Up" He lets the pedal up "Down" he pushes the pedal down and holds it while I open the bleeder to let out bubbles and then close the bleeder "Up" He lets the pedal up "Down" And repeat untile... It worked!! Now my clutch feels and acts better than ever before! That was a really difficult job, but now I know how mine works so if I ever have to do it again hopefully I'll remember. Rick (have pedal will travel) Bastedo > Rick, > > I just this past Thursday re-bled the clutch after being left open all > winter. The master was dry on the clutch side and not sure how much fluid > was still in the slave. The slave was open all winter. Not a good practice, > but it happened. We have a 3/4" master and 7/8" slave. This is what we did. > My son (52 yrs old) under the car working the clutch bleeder. Me in the > car > pumping the clutch. Bleeder open - pumped very vigorously probably 20 > pumps. Closed bleeder - pumped about 20 pumps. Pedal down - open > bleeder., > pump about 5- 10 pumps - pedal down - open bleeder. Repeat till fluid runs > fairly clear. Do not recirculate the fluid. Old fluid is dirty. After > about 4 repeats I began to feel pressure on the pedal. two or three more > repeats and pedal is good, clutch operates as designed. This all took > maybe > 20 minutes Max. > In 30 years working on bugeye's, I have never spent the time you describe. > I suspect you are using all the pedal/piston travel to mover the fluid up > to > the master sylinder in the plastic tube. and when you release the pedal, it > pulls the fluid back out of the line fron the master to the slave. > > BTW, it was 40 deg's and sleeting in Mich. when I did this. But, we were > inside dry at about 50 deg. > > Good luck, hope you get it done. > > Jeff Kelly From lmacy at mac.com Sun Apr 14 20:40:09 2013 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG Message-ID: > http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws/23011/mg-met-suv-concept-maar-shanghai Sorry about the text, but the concept still sucks -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Secretary Philadelphia MG Club The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. Dorothy Parker -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From lmacy at mac.com Sun Apr 14 20:43:08 2013 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:43:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Master - Success! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When you were a kid, did you ever play "Mousetrap"?? Same idea. Larry On Apr 14, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > No old fluid, purged that out first - only recirculated good clean fluid. > > Here's the deal, this has a Datsun slave cylinder on a Datsun transmission. > I called Bill M. this morning after trying and failing some more. > According to Bill I needed to get a bike tire pump and a long piece of > tubing. > Then hang the end of the tubing up as far as possible and pump until the > fluid was up to the top. > Then using the tire pump force the fluid back through the slave and up into > the master reservoir. > If I did it right I'd see bubbles in the reservoir. > So I did this several times, saw bubbles, then after there were no more > bubbles I got Peter out to help me with the good old: > "Down" he pushes the pedal down and holds it while I open the bleeder to > let out bubbles and then close the bleeder > "Up" He lets the pedal up > "Down" he pushes the pedal down and holds it while I open the bleeder to > let out bubbles and then close the bleeder > "Up" He lets the pedal up > "Down" > And repeat untile... It worked!! > > Now my clutch feels and acts better than ever before! > > That was a really difficult job, but now I know how mine works so if I ever > have to do it again hopefully I'll remember. > > Rick (have pedal will travel) Bastedo > > > >> Rick, >> >> I just this past Thursday re-bled the clutch after being left open all >> winter. The master was dry on the clutch side and not sure how much fluid >> was still in the slave. The slave was open all winter. Not a good practice, >> but it happened. We have a 3/4" master and 7/8" slave. This is what we did. >> My son (52 yrs old) under the car working the clutch bleeder. Me in the >> car >> pumping the clutch. Bleeder open - pumped very vigorously probably 20 >> pumps. Closed bleeder - pumped about 20 pumps. Pedal down - open >> bleeder., >> pump about 5- 10 pumps - pedal down - open bleeder. Repeat till fluid runs >> fairly clear. Do not recirculate the fluid. Old fluid is dirty. After >> about 4 repeats I began to feel pressure on the pedal. two or three more >> repeats and pedal is good, clutch operates as designed. This all took >> maybe >> 20 minutes Max. >> In 30 years working on bugeye's, I have never spent the time you describe. >> I suspect you are using all the pedal/piston travel to mover the fluid up >> to >> the master sylinder in the plastic tube. and when you release the pedal, it >> pulls the fluid back out of the line fron the master to the slave. >> >> BTW, it was 40 deg's and sleeting in Mich. when I did this. But, we were >> inside dry at about 50 deg. >> >> Good luck, hope you get it done. >> >> Jeff Kelly > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sun Apr 14 20:53:18 2013 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:53:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In English text; http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120417/CHINA/120419851 or *http://tinyurl.com/calgxrp* * * * * On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > > http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws/23011/mg-met-suv-concept-maar-shanghai > > Sorry about the text, but the concept still sucks From jfishbein at snet.net Sun Apr 14 21:18:01 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1365995881.20391.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> "Taking styling cues from the legendary MGB GT..." Maybe if you were whacked in the head with a cue." jay fishbein wallingford, CT 61 Innocenti Spider 950 63 Pink Sprite Mk II ________________________________ From: Kevin Valentine To: Larry Macy Cc: Spridgets Sent: Sun, April 14, 2013 11:05:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What they did to MG In English text; http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120417/CHINA/120419851 or *http://tinyurl.com/calgxrp* * * * * On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > > http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws/23011/mg-met-suv-concept-maar-shanghai From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Apr 14 22:33:05 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:33:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E6BBE6EA38649E2A1591A69A66F60E2@blackbox2> They Shanghai-ed it. How could MG and SUV ever be tied together in any kind of marketing sense? It's like, Hey! Were going to make a little two seater Cadillac smart car. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Macy Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:40 PM To: Spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG > http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws/23011/mg-met-suv-concept-maar-shanghai Sorry about the text, but the concept still sucks -- Larry Macy 78 Midget From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 15 07:50:12 2013 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 06:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a BE Starter Switch Message-ID: <1366033812.86737.YahooMailNeo@web162606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Looking for BE Pull Starter Switch I discovered that Bugsy II is missing the BE Pull Starter Switch. Conventional starter switch was substituted and hole for BE Starter Switch was covered over with vinyl. I know this is almost an unobtanium part but anyone got one that works they are willing to part with? Or know of a source for replacement part/knob. Thanks. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 15 10:35:33 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:35:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG In-Reply-To: <4E6BBE6EA38649E2A1591A69A66F60E2@blackbox2> References: , <4E6BBE6EA38649E2A1591A69A66F60E2@blackbox2> Message-ID: You mean like Astin Martin did???? http://www.astonmartin.com/en/cars/cygnet/brochure http://www.europecarnews.com/2011/02/aston-martin-cygnet-prices-revealed/ Starting about 40,000 euros Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > From: dlh2001 at comcast.net > To: lmacy at mac.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:33:05 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What they did to MG > > They Shanghai-ed it. How could MG and SUV ever be tied together in any kind > of marketing sense? > > It's like, Hey! Were going to make a little two seater Cadillac smart car. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Macy > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:40 PM > To: Spridgets net > Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG > > > http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws/23011/mg-met-suv-concept-maar-shanghai > > Sorry about the text, but the concept still sucks > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > ------------------------ From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 15 11:34:47 2013 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Found a Starter Switch - Thanks guys Message-ID: <1366047287.7029.YahooMailNeo@web162602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Thanks for the great response, Bill M has a couple he is sending my way. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Apr 15 12:11:02 2013 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:11:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20130415181102.W6Z3S.42279.root@hrndva-web10-z02> You'd think the Cadillac Cimarron would have taught the designers a lesson. Chris ---- brian S wrote: > You mean like Astin Martin did???? > > http://www.astonmartin.com/en/cars/cygnet/brochure > > http://www.europecarnews.com/2011/02/aston-martin-cygnet-prices-revealed/ > > Starting about 40,000 euros > > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank C.! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Apr 15 13:42:20 2013 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:42:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What they did to MG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > You mean like Astin Martin did???? http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/cayenne/ It's everywhere. Just ignore it. From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Apr 18 11:02:44 2013 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:02:44 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Weather-Minor LBC content Message-ID: <20130418.110244.26283.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> I just have to vent, Its been 5 days (along time in CO) since we've seen the sun, 36" of snow, compacting down to 26" of cementatious sludge, It's ~00F every morning and I've been plowing for 5 days straight when I get home. Yesterday had to shovel out to the wood pile to refill the wood box. It's Freakin' April! I shouldn't have this much new snow over this period of time! It should be spring! It was just getting to the point where I was considering trying to drive the BE out, now i have to wait again..... If you're east of CO, its coming your way!! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/517027736e7c277211f5st01duc From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Apr 18 11:36:45 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Weather-Minor LBC content In-Reply-To: <20130418.110244.26283.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20130418.110244.26283.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1366306605.36141.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I hate to make assumptions, but does all of this mean you haven't driven the Sprite? jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Mark Haynes To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, April 18, 2013 1:16:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Weather-Minor LBC content I just have to vent, Its been 5 days (along time in CO) since we've seen the sun, 36" of snow, compacting down to 26" of cementatious sludge, It's ~00F every morning and I've been plowing for 5 days straight when I get home. Yesterday had to shovel out to the wood pile to refill the wood box. It's Freakin' April! I shouldn't have this much new snow over this period of time! It should be spring! It was just getting to the point where I was considering trying to drive the BE out, now i have to wait again..... If you're east of CO, its coming your way!! From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Apr 18 20:12:14 2013 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat Elliott) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:12:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Peter the Parts pimp still pimping parts? Message-ID: <002001ce3ca3$4fbfaaa0$ef3effe0$@innercite.com> Well? Are you? Is he? Im needing a rebuild kit for a > bore master cylinder.. dual bore, clutch and brake, yada, yada gaskets as well. Patrick Elliott Big Dog Metal Works 541 297 0004 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Apr 18 21:26:54 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:26:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather-Minor LBC content In-Reply-To: <20130418.110244.26283.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20130418.110244.26283.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <82642B1F4410458DA32222ECBC552436@blackbox2> Global warming? Bring it on I say. We need a warmer world. To heck with the melting polar caps. To heck with the polar bears. What did they ever do for you? Or a seal for that matter. Let me put you in a cage with the polar bear and you can tell me if they need to be "saved". They are an evolutionary dead end anyway. Don't sweat the polar bears.. Ask any eskimo and he will tell you that hanging out in an igloo freezing your but off and watching out for rogue polar bears is no fun. OK? They too, long for tropical bliss. Speaking of thermal issues... Remember I put the new head on and the bypass was blocked? I was worried that I needed to remove the thermostat (or drill holes into it). Well. I removed the thermostat to see how it behaves. In PA, we've had some interesting weather the past few weeks. Including one day where we had an 82F warm spell. Ripe for experimentation. Here is what I discovered... If it's 60F or below, the engine temp will struggle to get to 160F. No matter how hard you get on it. But on that 82F day, the temp easily went up to 180F. This being the case. I've decided not to install the thermostat. I just don't drive the car enough in the cool weather. It runs great with the new head. I've lowered the CR a little, but the bigger valves more than make up for it. From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Apr 18 21:45:50 2013 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat Elliott) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 20:45:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4 Bore brake rebuild kit.. Message-ID: <002501ce3cb0$632f06a0$298d13e0$@innercite.com> I need this from the USA, for less than $27.. http://r.ebay.com/4WHFDi Anyone?? Patrick Elliott Big Dog Metal Works 541 297 0004 From shop at justbrits.com Thu Apr 18 21:45:06 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:45:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Peter the Parts pimp still pimping parts? In-Reply-To: <002001ce3ca3$4fbfaaa0$ef3effe0$@innercite.com> References: <002001ce3ca3$4fbfaaa0$ef3effe0$@innercite.com> Message-ID: <5170BDC2.9010102@justbrits.com> Damn Pat, I've heard of CHEAP and "We Tight" but TOO cheap to call a WATS line ??? List, let's collect a mil each and send to Pat so he may CALL PPP (wait, think that would make us responsible for hiring a Phys. Therp. person to punch in the numbers + enter ???). Or should we pair up a share a mil ?? From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:15 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (rrengineer.mike) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:06:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Peter the Parts pimp still pimping parts? Message-ID: <3fhst8q6aybe5yhp25bvhxko.1366347975698@email.android.com> Skype. Mike MacLean Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Sb" III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "" Just Brits " Shop" Date: To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Peter the Parts pimp still pimping parts? Damn Pat, I've heard of CHEAP and "We Tight" but TOO cheap to call a WATS line ??? List, let's collect a mil each and send to Pat so he may CALL PPP (wait, think that would make us responsible for hiring a Phys. Therp. person to punch in the numbers + enter ???). Or should we pair up a share a mil ?? ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Apr 18 23:07:09 2013 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat Elliott) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:07:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Peter the Parts pimp still pimping parts? In-Reply-To: <5170BDC2.9010102@justbrits.com> References: <002001ce3ca3$4fbfaaa0$ef3effe0$@innercite.com> <5170BDC2.9010102@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <85c7b3da-7478-4162-8f89-5158c7c6173c@email.android.com> Not cheap....LAZY......... sitting in front of my PC in my boxer at 8:30pm, in a moment of clairity I remember, "I need a rebuild kit".... " Didn't Peter sell parts?".... quick email and I can return to more pressing things..... sure I could have looked in the archives and found Peters email,(LAZY),,, OR looked up his number, (LAZY) and made myself a note to try and remember to call sometime between the ten or so conference calls I get sucked into every work day....(STILL LAZY) so my method of parts shopping has been reduced to throwing a request out on the interwebs and see who bites....... "" Just Brits " Shop" wrote: >Damn Pat, I've heard of CHEAP and "We Tight" but TOO cheap to call a >WATS line ??? > >List, let's collect a mil each and send to Pat so he may CALL PPP >(wait, think that would >make us responsible for hiring a Phys. Therp. person to punch in the >numbers + enter ???). > >Or should we pair up a share a mil ?? >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com Via tablet---. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 19 11:35:35 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:35:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cam ID help Message-ID: hey all, I'm trying to identify a camshaft. It came out of a 1098 (thanks Mike!) that was supposedly worked up as a quasi race engine. The only markings on it are 3D3 that is stamped into the of the shaft. It has a fuel pump eccentric and is pin drive. lobes are 3/8 wide. The Lobes are about 1.34 inches in diameter at the tallest point. For comparison, I have a AEA 649 cam. A 3/4 race cam from back in the day, I am told. It has no fuel pump eccentric, what appears to be 2 cam drives, (front and back), pin drive. Lobes are 1/2 inches wide. Lobes are about 1.29 inches in diameter at tallest point. The first cam appears to have significantly more duration than the 649. Any ideas? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 19 11:39:39 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:39:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [EasternOshitGroup] Cam ID help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: a little more info I forgot, Where the AEA 649 is stamped into the one cam, the other has 3 concentric rings Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! To: spridgets at autox.team.net CC: easternoshitgroup at yahoogroups.com From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:35:35 -0400 Subject: [EasternOshitGroup] Cam ID help hey all, I'm trying to identify a camshaft. It came out of a 1098 (thanks Mike!) that was supposedly worked up as a quasi race engine. The only markings on it are 3D3 that is stamped into the of the shaft. It has a fuel pump eccentric and is pin drive. lobes are 3/8 wide. The Lobes are about 1.34 inches in diameter at the tallest point. For comparison, I have a AEA 649 cam. A 3/4 race cam from back in the day, I am told. It has no fuel pump eccentric, what appears to be 2 cam drives, (front and back), pin drive. Lobes are 1/2 inches wide. Lobes are about 1.29 inches in diameter at tallest point. The first cam appears to have significantly more duration than the 649. Any ideas? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest  Unsubscribe  Terms of Use  Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ From haynes386 at netzero.net Fri Apr 19 14:42:03 2013 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:42:03 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Weather-Minor LBC content Message-ID: <20130419.144203.11291.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Right-O, 2 1/2Mi of mud and dirt, 2 miles of that snow covered, up hill both ways, on 185/60-13 great-for-racing Toyo Proxes? Sure, What could go wrong? NO, I haven't driven the sprites yet, wise guy! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weather-Minor LBC content Message-ID: <1366306605.36141.YahooMailRC at web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I hate to make assumptions, but does all of this mean you haven't driven the Sprite? jay fishbein wallingford, ct From pelliott at innercite.com Fri Apr 19 17:30:57 2013 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat Elliott) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:30:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. Message-ID: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> Who are my options for sending my > bore master off to be sleeved? Ed.. Notice I did not exclude any potential suppliers Patrick Elliott Big Dog Metal Works 541 297 0004 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Apr 19 17:33:47 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:33:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> Message-ID: The usual suspects are best: USPS, UPS, FedEx. There are others. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Pat Elliott wrote: > Who are my options for sending my > bore master off to be sleeved? > > Ed.. Notice I did not exclude any potential suppliers > > Patrick Elliott > Big Dog Metal Works > 541 297 0004 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From pelliott at innercite.com Fri Apr 19 17:45:58 2013 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat Elliott) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> Message-ID: <012d01ce3d58$0b090540$211b0fc0$@innercite.com> You are funny!.. From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:34 PM To: Pat Elliott Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. The usual suspects are best: USPS, UPS, FedEx. There are others. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Pat Elliott > wrote: Who are my options for sending my > bore master off to be sleeved? Ed.. Notice I did not exclude any potential suppliers Patrick Elliott Big Dog Metal Works 541 297 0004 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Apr 19 17:47:07 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:47:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: <012d01ce3d58$0b090540$211b0fc0$@innercite.com> References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> <012d01ce3d58$0b090540$211b0fc0$@innercite.com> Message-ID: We gotta keep Ed laughing or he gets grumpy. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Pat Elliott wrote: > You are funny!..**** > > ** ** > > *From:* derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 4:34 PM > *To:* Pat Elliott > *Cc:* Spridgets > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder.**** > > ** ** > > The usual suspects are best:**** > > USPS, UPS, FedEx. > There are others. > > > **** > > ** ** > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Pat Elliott > wrote:**** > > Who are my options for sending my > bore master off to be sleeved? > > Ed.. Notice I did not exclude any potential suppliers > > Patrick Elliott > Big Dog Metal Works > 541 297 0004 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com**** > > ** ** From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 19 17:47:59 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 19:47:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com>, Message-ID: Derf, I don't think they can re=sleeve his master cylinder. :-) Patrick, Try http://www.whitepost.com/ Many have used them and they are highly regarded. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:33:47 -0500 > From: derf247 at gmail.com > To: pelliott at innercite.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. > > The usual suspects are best: > USPS, UPS, FedEx. > There are others. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Pat Elliott wrote: > > > Who are my options for sending my > bore master off to be sleeved? > > > > Ed.. Notice I did not exclude any potential suppliers > > > > Patrick Elliott > > Big Dog Metal Works > > 541 297 0004 > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Apr 19 17:49:30 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:49:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> Message-ID: He asked about shipping, not about sleeving. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:47 PM, brian S wrote: > Derf, > > I don't think they can re=sleeve his master cylinder. :-) > > Patrick, > > Try http://www.whitepost.com/ > > Many have used them and they are highly regarded. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank C.! > > > > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:33:47 -0500 > > From: derf247 at gmail.com > > To: pelliott at innercite.com > > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. > > > > The usual suspects are best: > > USPS, UPS, FedEx. > > There are others. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Pat Elliott > wrote: > > > > > Who are my options for sending my > bore master off to be sleeved? > > > > > > Ed.. Notice I did not exclude any potential suppliers > > > > > > Patrick Elliott > > > Big Dog Metal Works > > > 541 297 0004 > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Apr 19 23:01:14 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:01:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> Message-ID: <246CE95C87464B74A07105CC621973B9@blackbox2> http://www.rkarpsleeving.com/RK_Sleeving/About.html Stainless. I think it's been over 4 years now and it has not leaked. I'm master of the lathe now, and I have sleeved the rear wheel cylinders in stainless myself. But at the time I did'nt want to risk it with the master cylinder, so I sent it to Karps. They did a nice job. I think the turnaround was about 2 weeks. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Elliott Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 7:31 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. Who are my options for sending my > bore master off to be sleeved? From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sat Apr 20 12:41:22 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:41:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [EasternOshitGroup] Cam ID help In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Some more info: The 3 rings machined between the lobes is identified in Vizard's book as a 731. A 649 cam, if it has a race profile has the number C-AEA-648 engraved between the dist. drive and the center cam journal. HTH Gerard Thanks Gerard, But I don't think that it is a 731 cam. 731 is described as a fast road cam, but it appears to have more lift and duration than my 649 cam.There is no engraving on my 649 cam where you mentioned, only AEA 649 stamped to the left of the first journal. I added some photos on the web site, Folder, Cam ID help. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/photos/album/1197786465/pic/list?mode=tn &order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc Unfortunately I don't have Vizard's Book. TIA Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! To: spridgets at autox.team.net CC: easternoshitgroup at yahoogroups.com From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:39:39 -0400 Subject: RE: [EasternOshitGroup] Cam ID help a little more info I forgot, Where the AEA 649 is stamped into the one cam, the other has 3 concentric rings Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! To: spridgets at autox.team.net CC: easternoshitgroup at yahoogroups.com From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:35:35 -0400 Subject: [EasternOshitGroup] Cam ID help hey all, I'm trying to identify a camshaft. It came out of a 1098 (thanks Mike!) that was supposedly worked up as a quasi race engine. The only markings on it are 3D3 that is stamped into the of the shaft. It has a fuel pump eccentric and is pin drive. lobes are 3/8 wide. The Lobes are about 1.34 inches in diameter at the tallest point. For comparison, I have a AEA 649 cam. A 3/4 race cam from back in the day, I am told. It has no fuel pump eccentric, what appears to be 2 cam drives, (front and back), pin drive. Lobes are 1/2 inches wide. Lobes are about 1.29 inches in diameter at tallest point. The first cam appears to have significantly more duration than the 649. Any ideas? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Apr 20 21:33:47 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:33:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 Sprite added Message-ID: Yesterday, I picked up a 66 Sprite that I bought off of eBay.. Though it was listed as running, it was not able to run on it's own. After ascertaining that the aftermarket Mr. Gasket fuel pump was insufficient to get the fuel to the front of the car, I removed the original SU fuel pump from the box in the boot. A quick tear down, and cleaning of the points, brought it back to life. Once the fuel was up front, I had to free the needle and seat on the front SU. Once that was working again, this was the final result... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJoOao0brX4 -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Apr 21 08:22:07 2013 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:22:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 Sprite added In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <979711180.20130421072207@pacifier.com> Hello Brad, Of course I biased, but I think the '66 Spridgets are my faves. Real Roadster tops make the cockpit more attractive than the later convertible models, but with roll up windows and a TRUNK LID. Throw in the standard disc brakes and it's hard to beat for practically and looks at the same time. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Man who run behind car get exhausted. From shop at justbrits.com Sun Apr 21 08:47:43 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:47:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com>, Message-ID: <5173FC0F.8070402@justbrits.com> << On 4/19/2013 6:47 PM, brian S wrote: > I don't think they can re=sleeve his master cylinder. >> I am ashamed of you that have re-plied and likewise the rest of you ! ! Gerard has more "effort" into Spridget hydraulics (and other 'parts') than anyone else I know of or have even heard of. IMHO, his prices (for anything he sells) are more than fair considering the costs he has in the products, Were I lucky enough to have either a Sprite or Spridget, I KNOW exactly where I would be headed. Ed From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Apr 21 09:09:54 2013 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:09:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Coolant Leak Message-ID: As most of you know I have been involved in Spridgets for a long time but for the life of me I am stumped. My 1275 Bugeye has a coolant leak that I can't find. I is dripping about a cup of coolant over night from the right side frame rail under the steering rack. It is not from any of the hoses or the thermostat housing. I can find no leaks from the cylinder head and the radiator is dry on the bottom side. I can't see or feel any wet spots around the water pump and no trail is visible from the drip location. The overflow hose extends well below the frame rail and the block drain valve is dry. The temp sender in the radiator and the second one in the head is dry too. The radiator doesn't appear to be loosing coolant so it must be coming from the block. The heater box and valve are dry as well. I was planning on pulling the radiator so I can have a better look but I know if do I will spill some coolant and maybe not find the wet spot that is leaking. Am I missing something obvious? Mark Nashville From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Apr 21 09:22:21 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:22:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Coolant Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Watch this video from John Twist....... http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-subs-u&v=6G5IxOCWFE8 Sent from my keyboard On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Mark" wrote: > As most of you know I have been involved in Spridgets for a long time but > for the life of me I am stumped. > > My 1275 Bugeye has a coolant leak that I can't find. I is dripping about a > cup of coolant over night from the right side frame rail under the steering > rack. It is not from any of the hoses or the thermostat housing. I can > find no leaks from the cylinder head and the radiator is dry on the bottom > side. I can't see or feel any wet spots around the water pump and no trail > is visible from the drip location. The overflow hose extends well below the > frame rail and the block drain valve is dry. The temp sender in the > radiator and the second one in the head is dry too. The radiator doesn't > appear to be loosing coolant so it must be coming from the block. The > heater box and valve are dry as well. I was planning on pulling the > radiator so I can have a better look but I know if do I will spill some > coolant and maybe not find the wet spot that is leaking. Am I missing > something obvious? > > Mark > Nashville > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Apr 21 09:23:28 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:23:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: <5173FC0F.8070402@justbrits.com> References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> <5173FC0F.8070402@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <33D024FF-85A0-4D49-9F7B-EED3B0684607@chartermi.net> The guy that did the sleeving for Gerard at Sierra Specialties has retired. Not sure if Gerard has a new guy lined up. Sent from my keyboard On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:47 AM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" wrote: > << On 4/19/2013 6:47 PM, brian S wrote: >> I don't think they can re=sleeve his master cylinder. >> > > I am ashamed of you that have re-plied and likewise the rest of you ! ! > > Gerard has more "effort" into Spridget hydraulics (and other 'parts') than anyone else I know > of or have even heard of. > > IMHO, his prices (for anything he sells) are more than fair considering the costs he has in the > products, > > Were I lucky enough to have either a Sprite or Spridget, I KNOW exactly where I would be headed. > > Ed > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From nases at verizon.net Sun Apr 21 09:25:11 2013 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:25:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Coolant Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94732821-2EAE-4203-9ADF-8E51D83808DF@verizon.net> Maybe a pin hole somewhere. Did you check with the engine running and system under pressure? Phil Nase Applebachsville, PA http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/ p:p8p,p' On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Mark" wrote: > As most of you know I have been involved in Spridgets for a long time but > for the life of me I am stumped. > > My 1275 Bugeye has a coolant leak that I can't find. I is dripping about a > cup of coolant over night from the right side frame rail under the steering > rack. It is not from any of the hoses or the thermostat housing. I can > find no leaks from the cylinder head and the radiator is dry on the bottom > side. I can't see or feel any wet spots around the water pump and no trail > is visible from the drip location. The overflow hose extends well below the > frame rail and the block drain valve is dry. The temp sender in the > radiator and the second one in the head is dry too. The radiator doesn't > appear to be loosing coolant so it must be coming from the block. The > heater box and valve are dry as well. I was planning on pulling the > radiator so I can have a better look but I know if do I will spill some > coolant and maybe not find the wet spot that is leaking. Am I missing > something obvious? > > Mark > Nashville > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Apr 21 10:28:34 2013 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:28:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Coolant Leak In-Reply-To: <94732821-2EAE-4203-9ADF-8E51D83808DF@verizon.net> References: <94732821-2EAE-4203-9ADF-8E51D83808DF@verizon.net> Message-ID: I hesitate to mention this, but some years ago my brother pulled a practical joke on his neighbor who parked his pickup outside. He was working evening shifts and would sneak over with a dixie cup of oil and pour it on the driveway under the truck. He did this for a few weeks until the neighbor mentioned an oil leak he couldn't find. At that point my brother stopped doing it. The neighbor was confused for years afterward and convinced that some oil leaks can fix themselves with time.... Talk to your lovely wife, Mark... has she been checking your insurance policy for a mental health clause? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Philip Nase wrote: > Maybe a pin hole somewhere. Did you check with the engine running and > system > under pressure? > > Phil Nase > Applebachsville, PA > http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/ > p :p 8p ,p ' > > On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Mark" wrote: > > > As most of you know I have been involved in Spridgets for a long time but > > for the life of me I am stumped. > > > > My 1275 Bugeye has a coolant leak that I can't find. I is dripping > about a > > cup of coolant over night from the right side frame rail under the > steering > > rack. It is not from any of the hoses or the thermostat housing. I can > > find no leaks from the cylinder head and the radiator is dry on the > bottom > > side. I can't see or feel any wet spots around the water pump and no > trail > > is visible from the drip location. The overflow hose extends well below > the > > frame rail and the block drain valve is dry. The temp sender in the > > radiator and the second one in the head is dry too. The radiator doesn't > > appear to be loosing coolant so it must be coming from the block. The > > heater box and valve are dry as well. I was planning on pulling the > > radiator so I can have a better look but I know if do I will spill some > > coolant and maybe not find the wet spot that is leaking. Am I missing > > something obvious? > > > > Mark > > Nashville > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Apr 21 12:05:54 2013 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:05:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Coolant Leak I think I found it! References: <94732821-2EAE-4203-9ADF-8E51D83808DF@verizon.net> Message-ID: <48CAFB941C6F4EE085782AE746D0321D@Dell9200> I pulled the radiator and I think I have found it. With the radiator out of the car and the hoses off the engine and on the bench it is still dripping !! It looks like the brake line that runs under the radiator has a push in retainer that has two sharp points that may just touch the lower hose. It looks like the retainer scratched the hose and caused a small leak that must have leaked into the sealed front frame cross member. It's been about an hour and it is still dripping, I am about to try to pump some air in to the channel and see if I can blow it out. I dug into my spares box and found a new hose but it seems a little small. Was the hose for a 1275 downflow radiator bigger than the original 948 hose? I will go see if I can find that they have different part numbers. Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Nase" Maybe a pin hole somewhere. Did you check with the engine running and system under pressure? Phil Nase On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:09 AM, "Mark" wrote: > As most of you know I have been involved in Spridgets for a long time but > for the life of me I am stumped. > > My 1275 Bugeye has a coolant leak that I can't find. I is dripping about > a > cup of coolant over night from the right side frame rail under the > steering > rack. It is not from any of the hoses or the thermostat housing. I can > find no leaks from the cylinder head and the radiator is dry on the bottom > side. I can't see or feel any wet spots around the water pump and no > trail > is visible from the drip location. The overflow hose extends well below > the > frame rail and the block drain valve is dry. The temp sender in the > radiator and the second one in the head is dry too. The radiator doesn't > appear to be loosing coolant so it must be coming from the block. The > heater box and valve are dry as well. I was planning on pulling the > radiator so I can have a better look but I know if do I will spill some > coolant and maybe not find the wet spot that is leaking. Am I missing > something obvious? > > Mark > Nashville > ------------------------ From cbaustin at verizon.net Sun Apr 21 15:40:42 2013 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 17:40:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Ignition/Light Switch Message-ID: <51745CDA.2040801@verizon.net> Anyone have a good, used, one they are willing to part with for a modest sum? Let me know, thanks, CB From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sun Apr 21 16:17:59 2013 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:17:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <876EDED4-7546-4A8B-A8E4-1EEE4BE0BC66@gerardsgarage.com> Rick, Ed, et al, Thanks for the mention and the generous comments. Yes, I am still able to offer this service (and I've expanded others areas to). Feel free to contact me directly if you need something. Gerard On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:23:28 -0400 > From: Rick Fisk > To: Just Brits Shop > Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. > Message-ID: <33D024FF-85A0-4D49-9F7B-EED3B0684607 at chartermi.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The guy that did the sleeving for Gerard at Sierra Specialties has retired. > Not sure if Gerard has a new guy lined up. > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:47 AM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" > wrote: > >> << On 4/19/2013 6:47 PM, brian S wrote: >>> I don't think they can re=sleeve his master cylinder. >> >> >> I am ashamed of you that have re-plied and likewise the rest of you ! ! >> >> Gerard has more "effort" into Spridget hydraulics (and other 'parts') than > anyone else I know >> of or have even heard of. >> >> IMHO, his prices (for anything he sells) are more than fair considering the > costs he has in the >> products, >> >> Were I lucky enough to have either a Sprite or Spridget, I KNOW exactly > where I would be headed. >> >> Ed >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From miniac7 at aol.com Sun Apr 21 16:36:15 2013 From: miniac7 at aol.com (Howie) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:36:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Needle Recommendation In-Reply-To: <876EDED4-7546-4A8B-A8E4-1EEE4BE0BC66@gerardsgarage.com> References: <876EDED4-7546-4A8B-A8E4-1EEE4BE0BC66@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <0EE37734-FA36-42B5-A0BC-E6D263CD4CF4@aol.com> I need to obtain recommendations on needles and springs for the following recent engine build: 1275 bored to1293 1316 smog head, ported w/ slight polish New valves, springs, unleaded seats 1.5 roller rockers Pertronix Ignition Twin 1.25 SU's K&N filter housing Spirited street driving Any informed recommendations appreciated. Howard Collins From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Apr 21 17:55:01 2013 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:55:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 Sprite added In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1953684767.20130421165501@pacifier.com> Hello Brad, I believe, but dont' know for absolute sure, NO filter, if my car is anything to go by. Which it is not, as it has fenders from the wrong year, seats from a different year, and the gas tank was from yet another. . .. A Hodge Podge miss match, but there was not a gas filter at all.... anywhere. The experts may still weigh in. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com An oyster is a fish built like a nut. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Apr 21 18:00:59 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:00:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 Sprite added In-Reply-To: <1953684767.20130421165501@pacifier.com> References: <1953684767.20130421165501@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Thank you Bill. Our 68 does not have a filter either, so I thought I would check On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Brad, > > I believe, but dont' know for absolute sure, NO filter, if my car > is anything to go by. Which it is not, as it has fenders from the > wrong year, seats from a different year, and the gas tank was > from yet another. . .. A Hodge Podge miss match, but there was > not a gas filter at all.... anywhere. > > The experts may still weigh in. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > An oyster is a fish built like a nut. > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Apr 21 18:52:17 2013 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:52:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Coolant Leak I think I found it! Fixed References: <94732821-2EAE-4203-9ADF-8E51D83808DF@verizon.net> <48CAFB941C6F4EE085782AE746D0321D@Dell9200> Message-ID: <7B1BE636B5464876A56B32E9AC0013F8@Dell9200> Good day, I pulled the brake pipe retainers from the cross member and put a rubber tipped air gun in one hole and my finger over the other. Pulled the trigger on the air gun and all sorts of s%#^ came out. Then a few seconds later I heard a BANG and wouldn't you know the dent in the bottom of the cross member popped out, I guess I never realized that area was a closed box section. I think I will drill a drain hole or two in it to try and keep it dry(er). I did also find out that the lower hose I have been holding onto as a spare was for a 948/1098 not for a 1275. Mark ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Coolant Leak I think I found it! I pulled the radiator and I think I have found it. With the radiator out of the car and the hoses off the engine and on the bench it is still dripping !! It looks like the brake line that runs under the radiator has a push in retainer that has two sharp points that may just touch the lower hose. It looks like the retainer scratched the hose and caused a small leak that must have leaked into the sealed front frame cross member. It's been about an hour and it is still dripping, I am about to try to pump some air in to the channel and see if I can blow it out. I dug into my spares box and found a new hose but it seems a little small. Was the hose for a 1275 downflow radiator bigger than the original 948 hose? I will go see if I can find that they have different part numbers. Mark Nashville From pelliott at innercite.com Sun Apr 21 20:37:09 2013 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat Elliott) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:37:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: <5173FC0F.8070402@justbrits.com> References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com>, <5173FC0F.8070402@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <3fbe54ac-c74e-4c6b-b789-1b44a3d2edab@email.android.com> Why are you ashamed? I asked, they replied. If they hadn't I wouldn't have relized that Gerard was current source. I've since had a direct exchange with him about particulars.. no skin off your nose.. I've been on this list since 95,(96?).. and I don't recall ever having done something to warrant your wrath. In fact I was browsing some old files and found that I had purchased over a couple of hundred bucks in parts from you on different occasions. It was back in the late 90's, but I did spend some of my money through you.. "" Just Brits " Shop" wrote: ><< On 4/19/2013 6:47 PM, brian S wrote: >> I don't think they can re=sleeve his master cylinder. >> > >I am ashamed of you that have re-plied and likewise the rest of you ! ! > >Gerard has more "effort" into Spridget hydraulics (and other 'parts') >than anyone else I know >of or have even heard of. > >IMHO, his prices (for anything he sells) are more than fair >considering the costs he has in the >products, > >Were I lucky enough to have either a Sprite or Spridget, I KNOW >exactly where I would be headed. > >Ed >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com Via tablet---. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Apr 21 20:38:44 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:38:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Needle Recommendation In-Reply-To: <0EE37734-FA36-42B5-A0BC-E6D263CD4CF4@aol.com> References: <876EDED4-7546-4A8B-A8E4-1EEE4BE0BC66@gerardsgarage.com> <0EE37734-FA36-42B5-A0BC-E6D263CD4CF4@aol.com> Message-ID: <863D0F84A98242B8865E2FEE714D0E72@blackbox2> Howard, You are not that far from stock. The extra 20cc's are not a game changer. I think you will be fine and well within adjustment of the standard 1.25 SU's. (AN needle and Blue spring). If you want to experiment. A 1275 Cooper S would have had an M needle and Red spring. But I don't think that is what you want. The above is from the spec tables of "Tuning SU Carbs" SU's have a wide latitude of main jet adjustment. Very forgiving. You won't find the absolute perfect needle without unlimited time on a rolling dyno and having a giant collection of needles to try. >From that book, the author states "It's best to use the red spring, but if the carburetters are suspected of being on the large size for the engine then the blue spring should be tried" So from this statement alone we can imply that the 1 1/4" carbs are already oversized for the 1275 from the get go, since they come with a blue spring stock! If after adjustment you find it weak on acceleration, then I would open the man jet a little more and maybe run thicker dash pot oil. But I doubt this will be an issue. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Howie Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:36 PM To: Gerard Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] SU Needle Recommendation I need to obtain recommendations on needles and springs for the following recent engine build: 1275 bored to1293 1316 smog head, ported w/ slight polish New valves, springs, unleaded seats 1.5 roller rockers Pertronix Ignition Twin 1.25 SU's K&N filter housing Spirited street driving Any informed recommendations appreciated. Howard Collins From ridleymj at brant.net Sun Apr 21 20:39:07 2013 From: ridleymj at brant.net (Martyn Ridley) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:39:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Needle Recommendation In-Reply-To: <0EE37734-FA36-42B5-A0BC-E6D263CD4CF4@aol.com> References: <876EDED4-7546-4A8B-A8E4-1EEE4BE0BC66@gerardsgarage.com> <0EE37734-FA36-42B5-A0BC-E6D263CD4CF4@aol.com> Message-ID: <5174A2CB.9000705@brant.net> Mintylamb has a needle chart you can use to look at the different profiles. My suggestion is you start with the standard AN needles and then try M needles. My guess is the M (Cooper S) needles will suit you best. Also, remember to try red and blue springs as the spring rate may be different from standard. Cheers, Martyn On 4/21/2013 6:36 PM, Howie wrote: > I need to obtain recommendations on needles and springs for the following > recent engine build: > > 1275 bored to1293 > 1316 smog head, ported w/ slight polish > New valves, springs, unleaded seats > 1.5 roller rockers > Pertronix Ignition > Twin 1.25 SU's > K&N filter housing > Spirited street driving > > Any informed recommendations appreciated. > > Howard Collins > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ridleymj at brant.net From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Apr 22 18:12:12 2013 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:12:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Santa Barbara in June Message-ID: It looks like I'll be in Santa Barbara the week of June 16th. I'm tagging along with my wife on a "business" trip. Anything I might see and do related to spridgets or British cars? I'm not sure of our itinerary yet. Thanks, Trevor From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Apr 22 18:23:04 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:23:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake light switch Message-ID: I know that this has been discussed before, but does anyone know off the top of their head, what brake light switch I can buy from my FLAPS, to try to keep on goal of a Friday inspection? My switch is completely gone, so I have nothing there to reference. I am not wanting to take another car apart to take in for comparison, if I can help it. Thank you, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From mark at bradakis.com Mon Apr 22 18:27:11 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:27:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake light switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5175D55F.7070108@bradakis.com> I bet a switch from a 1987 Honda Civic would work. They fit Spitfires perfectly. mjb. From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Apr 22 18:29:24 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:29:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Santa Barbara in June In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AD90F87-63D2-400F-A260-5C0EF1C51ECD@chartermi.net> Go visit Moss in Goleta (just west of Santa Barbara). Take Highway 1 up the coast and visit Gerard in San Francisco. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > It looks like I'll be in Santa Barbara the week of June 16th. I'm tagging > along with my wife on a "business" trip. Anything I might see and do > related to spridgets or British cars? I'm not sure of our itinerary yet. > > Thanks, > Trevor > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From shop at justbrits.com Mon Apr 22 22:43:19 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:43:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Santa Barbara in June In-Reply-To: <1AD90F87-63D2-400F-A260-5C0EF1C51ECD@chartermi.net> References: <1AD90F87-63D2-400F-A260-5C0EF1C51ECD@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <51761167.507@justbrits.com> << On 4/22/2013 7:29 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: Go visit Moss in Goleta (just west of Santa Barbara). >> As usual, Rick has got it correct, Trevor ! << Take Highway 1 up the coast and visit Gerard in San Francisco.:-) >> BUT ( LOL ), if you could pull it off at the END of Wife's business ( BTDT - Last was Vegas ) Leave early and take Hgwy 1 to Carmel-by-the Sea. Just on the south side is Clint's joint (used to be) Mission Inn. In town IIRC either the Wayfarer @ 4th & Mission or Wayside @ 7th & Mission. Get the Wife settle in and you take off to G.'s. LOTS of tiny shops in Carmel that any women would LOVE. Again IIRC on the NE corner of San Antonio & Ocean (Clint's radio station in Play Misty for Me) is a nice little joint with great steaks and great prices (off seasons). Outside patio that lets you watch cars go by but hear the sounds of the ocean. Way kewl. Met Joan Baez there with her TR-3 equipped with two HUGE Dobermans ! ! Very nice but kewl lady. So IF you can pull it off................. Ed PS: Larry, did I miss anything except you maybe meeting them for dinner ? ? ? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 23 08:04:39 2013 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:04:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Austin-Healey Sprite Le Mans Prototype Message-ID: <0670A01F4A484089A303AE04989EA620@HomePC> http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/04/23/austin-healey-le-mans-prototype -heads-to-auction/?refer=news Interesting car, but I agree with the comment about the price estimate. Thatbs a lot of cash. From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 09:33:13 2013 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:33:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Santa Barbara in June References: Message-ID: <3088AD4C54954B4A9B3BC61875988558@psych.washington.edu> Trevor, It is probably too far out of your way and possibly the day you are traveling, but there is the Brits at Golden Cove in Palos Verdes on the 16th. It is a British only cars and coffee event on the third Sunday of the month. Santa Barbara is about 120 miles North of PV so a couple hour drive. I don't know if he is still on here, but Vigil used to be part of this. http://www.austin-healey.org/node/6285 I have kind of a soft spot for the PV/Torrance area since that is where my family is from. Have a great trip. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Jessie" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:12 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Santa Barbara in June > It looks like I'll be in Santa Barbara the week of June 16th. I'm tagging > along with my wife on a "business" trip. Anything I might see and do > related to spridgets or British cars? I'm not sure of our itinerary yet. > > Thanks, > Trevor > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From brucehamper at gmail.com Tue Apr 23 17:40:14 2013 From: brucehamper at gmail.com (Bruce Hamper) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 18:40:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats? Message-ID: Do any of the Miata seats fit in a 69 Sprite? I'm considering a seat upgrade. Bruce 59 Bugeye 69 Sprite From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 23 17:45:06 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:45:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Geico ad Message-ID: Not a fan of most of there ads, but this one made me smile. a Link to it here: http://www.mgexp.com/archive/Geico_ad_makes_me_smile/2332989 Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 23 17:49:49 2013 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:49:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Geico ad Message-ID: Not a fan of most of there ads, but this one made me smile. a Link to it here: http://www.mgexp.com/archive/Geico_ad_makes_me_smile/2332989 Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! From brucehamper at gmail.com Tue Apr 23 19:37:31 2013 From: brucehamper at gmail.com (Bruce Hamper) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:37:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats Again Message-ID: Thanks for all the Miata seat information! Those that have Miata seats; Do they offer more leg room? Do I need to look for a particular year of Miata seats (early vs. 2nd gen Miatas)? I'm in search of the perfect Miata Seats! Bruce From mark at bradakis.com Tue Apr 23 21:06:05 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:06:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Yahoo, etc. Message-ID: <51774C1D.5060508@bradakis.com> I think that all the yahoo, btinternet and sbcglobal folks have been reactivated and should be getting mail again. What fun. mjb. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Apr 16 12:49:21 2013 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:49:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Week National Meet - Hot Springs, AR!! Message-ID: Don't know if the attachment will make it through to everyone, but the website will work... One of our Sprite-Midget Club USA Presidents heads this up (Barrett Harrison). It has turned into a magnificent event and Barrett is pleading for some more Sprites and Midgets in addition to his Bugeye! Sprite-Midget Club USA was a sponsor last year and likely will be again this year. It is really a terrific event and the Hot Springs venue is great too. Lots of winding back roads through the beautiful Arkansas forests, great lodging and food and lots of fun events. I think they had nearly 250 cars last year! Sadly I will not be able to attend again this year, but I hope some of our Sprite-Midget Club USA members will represent us. Frank would have gone in a heartbeat.... OR maybe in a New Jersey minute... ;-) http://www.BritishCarWeekNationalMeet.org -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of BCWNM CAR FLYER.pdf] From CAWS52803 at aol.com Tue Apr 23 17:18:15 2013 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye parts Message-ID: I have 2 original steel wheels in very good condition and a pair of Bugeye doors, also in very good condition. Anyone interested? Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sun Apr 21 06:54:17 2013 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 12:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 Sprite added In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47139275.1288402.1366548857945.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Congratulations Brad!B That looks like a clean little car. Engine sounds great! --David C. There is a battle of two wolves inside us all. B B B One is evil. B It is anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, Lies, inferiority, and ego. B B B The other is good. B It is joy, peace, love, hope, humility, Kindness, empathy, and truth. B B B The wolf that wins? B The one you feed B --Cherokee proverb-- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Spridget list" , "Yahoo Spridget list" Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:33:47 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 1966 Sprite added Yesterday, I picked up a 66 Sprite that I bought off of eBay.. Though it was listed as running, it was not able to run on it's own. After ascertaining that the aftermarket Mr. Gasket fuel pump was insufficient to get the fuel to the front of the car, I removed the original SU fuel pump from the box in the boot. A quick tear down, and cleaning of the points, brought it back to life. Once the fuel was up front, I had to free the needle and seat on the front SU. Once that was working again, this was the final result... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJoOao0brX4 -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From daredelvis at gmail.com Mon Apr 22 10:15:04 2013 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:15:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] re-sleeving a Master cylinder. In-Reply-To: <3fbe54ac-c74e-4c6b-b789-1b44a3d2edab@email.android.com> References: <012401ce3d55$f26b0ee0$d7412ca0$@innercite.com> <5173FC0F.8070402@justbrits.com> <3fbe54ac-c74e-4c6b-b789-1b44a3d2edab@email.android.com> Message-ID: Another vote for Gerard, he did mine. And, ignore Ed. I have also been around this list from the mid 90's, and it never changes. Brian On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Pat Elliott wrote: > Why are you ashamed? I asked, they replied. If they hadn't I wouldn't > have relized that Gerard was current source. I've since had a direct > exchange with him about particulars.. no skin off your nose.. > I've been on this list since 95,(96?).. and I don't recall ever having > done something to warrant your wrath. In fact I was browsing some old > files and found that I had purchased over a couple of hundred bucks in > parts from you on different occasions. It was back in the late 90's, but I > did spend some of my money through you.. > > > > > > "" Just Brits " Shop" wrote: > > ><< On 4/19/2013 6:47 PM, brian S wrote: > >> I don't think they can re=sleeve his master cylinder. >> > > > >I am ashamed of you that have re-plied and likewise the rest of you ! ! > > > >Gerard has more "effort" into Spridget hydraulics (and other 'parts') > >than anyone else I know > >of or have even heard of. > > > >IMHO, his prices (for anything he sells) are more than fair > >considering the costs he has in the > >products, > > > >Were I lucky enough to have either a Sprite or Spridget, I KNOW > >exactly where I would be headed. > > > >Ed > >------------------------ > > > >spridgets at autox.team.net > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com > > Via tablet---. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/daredelvis at gmail.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Apr 24 13:57:17 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:57:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats Again Message-ID: I've got a set from a '95 Miata that work really well. "More leg room"? Well I don't think so but not less at any rate. I used the tracks that came with the seats. Since they came from an open top car that had no top when it was sitting in the wrecking yard I had to do some pretty hard core rust abatement especially on the seat pans. The price was right at $100 for the pair. New vinyl upholstery will only set you back about $170 and speakers are readily available. I also put heaters in mine, since I drive it in all the weather that the Pacific Northwest has to offer. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fXnwj3nwNzk/UF-fMUkklpI/AAAAAAAAJMw/6OO0mE27GHI/s1024/installed03.jpg or: *http://tinyurl.com/b72o3xw* Rick Bastedo ************************************************* From: Bruce Hamper Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats Again Thanks for all the Miata seat information! Those that have Miata seats; Do they offer more leg room? Do I need to look for a particular year of Miata seats (early vs. 2nd gen Miatas)? I'm in search of the perfect Miata Seats! Bruce From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Apr 24 14:44:37 2013 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:44:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator Message-ID: I had trouble with the charging system in the Fall, and put the car away before I figured it out. Today, I put in a new generator and a new regulator, for which I paid extra to have Moss pre-adjust. I assume that it is correct, but I got it from Moss. My problem remains unchanged. I can't really test it because of the voltage problem: - The generator is not charging the battery. - I can get no voltage reading from the system anywhere when the engine is on; the meter reads 8888. It works fine when the engine is off. - Even the battery reads 8888 when the engine is on. - I checked it for polarity against the battery to see if it read 8888 for reversed polarity; it reads the same in either direction when the engine is off (maybe there is a minus sign that I did not notice). - I sparked the field coil and checked the polarity of the generator with my red-green probe; it is red, the same as when I put it on the positive terminal of the battery when the engine is off. I assume that means the generator is pushing, not pulling. The car is negative ground. Any USEFUL thoughts? Comments about Moss are not useful! Comments about my incompetence are not useful! Comments on the beauty of The Holy Sprite are nice, but also not useful! What's left? Very frustrated, Michael Rowe The Holy Sprite From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Apr 24 21:30:10 2013 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:30:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats Again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Bruce Hamper wrote: > Thanks for all the Miata seat information! Bummer none of that info was ON the list (or if it was I didn't get it) - I've been considering this upgrade too and was hoping to gather some good info from your query! Any chance you can post the best pieces of advice you got? From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 06:32:56 2013 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:32:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Austin-Healey Sprite Le Mans Prototype In-Reply-To: <0670A01F4A484089A303AE04989EA620@HomePC> References: <0670A01F4A484089A303AE04989EA620@HomePC> Message-ID: I dig orange : ) What is that estimate Larry? Lin On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/04/23/austin-healey-le-mans-prototype > -heads-to-auction/?refer=news > > Interesting car, but I agree with the comment about the price estimate. > Thatb s a lot of cash. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Apr 25 10:33:58 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:33:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21D9A21B-0494-47D2-8530-147882AD435E@comcast.net> Sounds like the regulator isn't regulating or your meter has gone off range. Reset the range to 100v and see what it says.. Lester On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:44 37PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I had trouble with the charging system in the Fall, and put the car away before I figured it out. Today, I put in a new generator and a new regulator, for which I paid extra to have Moss pre-adjust. I assume that it is correct, but I got it from Moss. My problem remains unchanged. I can't really test it because of the voltage problem: > > - The generator is not charging the battery. > - I can get no voltage reading from the system anywhere when the engine is on; the meter reads 8888. It works fine when the engine is off. > - Even the battery reads 8888 when the engine is on. > - I checked it for polarity against the battery to see if it read 8888 for reversed polarity; it reads the same in either direction when the engine is off (maybe there is a minus sign that I did not notice). > - I sparked the field coil and checked the polarity of the generator with my red-green probe; it is red, the same as when I put it on the positive terminal of the battery when the engine is off. I assume that means the generator is pushing, not pulling. The car is negative ground. > > Any USEFUL thoughts? Comments about Moss are not useful! Comments about my incompetence are not useful! Comments on the beauty of The Holy Sprite are nice, but also not useful! What's left? > > Very frustrated, > Michael Rowe > The Holy Sprite > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From d.swanson at earthlink.net Thu Apr 25 18:21:14 2013 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats Again Message-ID: If anyone in central North Carolina is looking for a set of Miata seats, I have a set of black cloth (first series - I think) seats with the seat tracks (sorry - no speakers) I'll sell for $150. I bought them some years back for my '62 mkII Sprite, but they did not fit well with my floor mounted roll bar. Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII Holly Springs, NC From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 19:28:10 2013 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:28:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts needed, swap possible, or? Message-ID: A friend of mine who also happens to own the local (Sacramento) Brit car repair shop is in need of front hubs for a disk brake, steel wheel spridget. He has the necessary goodies for a wire wheel conversion, including the rear axle (without the diff.) So, if anyone out there wants to convert to wires let me know and I will put you in touch. Hal From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Apr 26 09:25:55 2013 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:25:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress In-Reply-To: <21D9A21B-0494-47D2-8530-147882AD435E@comcast.net> References: <21D9A21B-0494-47D2-8530-147882AD435E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> Following advice, I bought a really cheap analog voltmeter, which works where my expensive digital one does not. If the polarity is wrong, the needle moves backward, which makes it easy. It is very small, so reading are approximate. So here's what I have found just now: - New battery, new regulator (supposedly adjusted by Moss), new generator. - With engine off, voltage is 12+ = fresh battery. - Spark generator directly from battery to regulator F terminal. - With engine on, battery voltage drops. - With engine on, voltage at the regulator F terminal is 24v or more, which John Twist says means the generator is not properly polarized. So how do I polarize it? Is it dead if it does not respond properly? Michael Rowe The Holy Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Apr 26 09:29:28 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:29:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress In-Reply-To: <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> References: <21D9A21B-0494-47D2-8530-147882AD435E@comcast.net> <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> Message-ID: Let the sparks fly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPUfQtVEJGg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV8FFgia7uU On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Following advice, I bought a really cheap analog voltmeter, which works > where my expensive digital one does not. If the polarity is wrong, the > needle moves backward, which makes it easy. It is very small, so reading > are approximate. > > So here's what I have found just now: > - New battery, new regulator (supposedly adjusted by Moss), new generator. > - With engine off, voltage is 12+ = fresh battery. > - Spark generator directly from battery to regulator F terminal. > - With engine on, battery voltage drops. > - With engine on, voltage at the regulator F terminal is 24v or more, > which John Twist says means the generator is not properly polarized. > > So how do I polarize it? Is it dead if it does not respond properly? > > Michael Rowe > The Holy Sprite > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/derf247@**gmail.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Apr 26 10:18:45 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:18:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress In-Reply-To: <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> References: <21D9A21B-0494-47D2-8530-147882AD435E@comcast.net> <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> Message-ID: <897B4D0A-96F2-42EE-8A2F-055AA8E80843@comcast.net> And you've triple checked regulator connections? Lester On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Following advice, I bought a really cheap analog voltmeter, which works where my expensive digital one does not. If the polarity is wrong, the needle moves backward, which makes it easy. It is very small, so reading are approximate. > > So here's what I have found just now: > - New battery, new regulator (supposedly adjusted by Moss), new generator. > - With engine off, voltage is 12+ = fresh battery. > - Spark generator directly from battery to regulator F terminal. > - With engine on, battery voltage drops. > - With engine on, voltage at the regulator F terminal is 24v or more, which John Twist says means the generator is not properly polarized. > > So how do I polarize it? Is it dead if it does not respond properly? > > Michael Rowe > The Holy Sprite > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 26 16:09:04 2013 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:09:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite wiring issue Message-ID: So I am trying to chase down my fault on the brake light circuit. I found out that, when I have the car running, all is well. When I turn it off, it will shut down, but within 3 seconds, I hear an audible "click" and the ignition lamp on the tachometer lights up. Any ideas why it would do this? -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Apr 26 16:46:34 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:46:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite wiring issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <746CC2B2-704D-48B7-8E7F-CEC076673C7D@chartermi.net> When you hear the click the regulator is telling the generator to make voltage. Something is hosed up with maybe the switch wiring? Sent from my keyboard On Apr 26, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > So I am trying to chase down my fault on the brake light circuit. I found > out that, when I have the car running, all is well. When I turn it off, it > will shut down, but within 3 seconds, I hear an audible "click" and the > ignition lamp on the tachometer lights up. > Any ideas why it would do this? > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > http://tequilabrad.com/ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Apr 26 16:58:02 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:58:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite wiring issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03523C5EC0EE4B4CAF49EF4A0D85C3CF@spider> See if the click is coming from your voltage regulator. Bill in Oregon ================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:09 PM To: Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite wiring issue So I am trying to chase down my fault on the brake light circuit. I found out that, when I have the car running, all is well. When I turn it off, it will shut down, but within 3 seconds, I hear an audible "click" and the ignition lamp on the tachometer lights up. Any ideas why it would do this? -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From d.swanson at earthlink.net Fri Apr 26 17:38:16 2013 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:38:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Miata Seats Again Message-ID: <2C4BAA0E31CD4B929CCDA1202D5E7E40@HomeComputer> Looks like I have someone interested - coming next week. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:21 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Miata Seats Again If anyone in central North Carolina is looking for a set of Miata seats, I have a set of black cloth (first series - I think) seats with the seat tracks (sorry - no speakers) I'll sell for $150. I bought them some years back for my '62 mkII Sprite, but they did not fit well with my floor mounted roll bar. Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII Holly Springs, NC ------------------------ From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Apr 26 18:58:12 2013 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:58:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts needed, swap possible, or? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I sent this Yesterday, but it never showed up in my in box, so I will try again. Apologies, in advance, to any and all who receive duplicates A friend of mine who also happens to own the local (Sacramento) Brit car repair shop is in need of front hubs for a disk brake, steel wheel spridget. He has the necessary goodies for a wire wheel conversion, including the rear axle (without the diff.) So, if anyone out there wants to convert to wires let me know and I will put you in touch. Hal From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Apr 26 21:05:22 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:05:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress In-Reply-To: <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> References: <21D9A21B-0494-47D2-8530-147882AD435E@comcast.net> <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> Message-ID: Is converting to an alternator NOT an option here? Because if it IS an option then that is THE WAY to go. If I still wanted to run a generator, I think I would gut the original relay based regulator and replace it's internals with a solid state circuit. (email me off list if you are interested in such a circuit) Life is too short to play with points, be they in the fuel pump, distributor, or the regulator. It is a nice spring day out there. Frank's Clarici's instructions on converting to alternator...in under 2 hours. http://pdljmpr.tripod.com/techin.htm#Electrical: -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress Following advice, I bought a really cheap analog voltmeter, which works where my expensive digital one does not. If the polarity is wrong, the needle moves backward, which makes it easy. It is very small, so reading are approximate. So here's what I have found just now: - New battery, new regulator (supposedly adjusted by Moss), new generator. - With engine off, voltage is 12+ = fresh battery. - Spark generator directly from battery to regulator F terminal. - With engine on, battery voltage drops. - With engine on, voltage at the regulator F terminal is 24v or more, which John Twist says means the generator is not properly polarized. So how do I polarize it? Is it dead if it does not respond properly? From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Apr 26 23:53:28 2013 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] generator to Alternator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1367042008.93356.YahooMailClassic@web140405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Dean, I converted my car in less then 1/2 hours & it looks cleaner. I used the alternator bracket not the steel pipe My old swoop bracket from the generator bolted right up. I used a conversion done by many happy people. There are a lot out there and they all work. This one looks stock & is easy to convert over. I got my parts from Steve at Ol Phartz Parts Here is some information on the conversion. I did this one except i did not like the looks of the pipe., http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/alternator/ , He even goes into the wiring changes needed to the regulator. Click on the pictures & diagrams to make them bigger. I used the adapter instead of the piece of water pipe at the rear support. Bosch 13107 alternator, 78-80 Ford Fiesta: 55 AMP https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?A=PME13107_01929635 75&An=599001+101980+50026+2026036 ... Although the NAPA web site shows this with a pulley and fan & mine came with one. Others told me there's was shipped without one.. They had to go back to NAPA and get one. . This is what the adapter looks like: http://www.spridgetmania.com/LargePic.cfm?LargeImage=12g1053%2Ejpg&Item=MOUN TING%20BRACKET%20FOR%20ALTERNATOR, . Runs great ... lights are very bright. The battery is always at full charge. Vigil --- On Fri, 4/26/13, Dean Hedin wrote: > From: Dean Hedin Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress To: "'Michael Rowe'" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, April 26, 2013, 8:05 PM Is converting to an alternator NOT an option here? Because if it IS an option then that is THE WAY to go. If I still wanted to run a generator, I think I would gut the original relay based regulator and replace it's internals with a solid state circuit. (email me off list if you are interested in such a circuit) Life is too short to play with points, be they in the fuel pump, distributor, or the regulator. It is a nice spring day out there. Frank's Clarici's instructions on converting to alternator...in under 2 hours. http://pdljmpr.tripod.com/techin.htm#Electrical: -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress Following advice, I bought a really cheap analog voltmeter, which works where my expensive digital one does not. If the polarity is wrong, the needle moves backward, which makes it easy. It is very small, so reading are approximate. So here's what I have found just now: - New battery, new regulator (supposedly adjusted by Moss), new generator. - With engine off, voltage is 12+ = fresh battery. - Spark generator directly from battery to regulator F terminal. - With engine on, battery voltage drops. - With engine on, voltage at the regulator F terminal is 24v or more, which John Twist says means the generator is not properly polarized. So how do I polarize it? Is it dead if it does not respond properly? ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Apr 27 07:52:00 2013 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:52:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator - Progress In-Reply-To: <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> References: <21D9A21B-0494-47D2-8530-147882AD435E@comcast.net> <100E9DB2B8ED4EDEB274DB22D35D4AD8@Home> Message-ID: Mike, As others have stated an alternator sure is a nice upgrade to your car. Here's a link to pictures for my alternator swap including my home made bracket, alterations to a "swoop bracket" and wiring changes to the regulator. https://picasaweb.google.com/105717618225238141022/GeneratorToAlternator At 11:25 AM 4/26/2013, Michael Rowe wrote: >Following advice, I bought a really cheap analog voltmeter, which >works where my expensive digital one does not. If the polarity is >wrong, the needle moves backward, which makes it easy. It is very >small, so reading are approximate. > >So here's what I have found just now: >- New battery, new regulator (supposedly adjusted by Moss), new generator. >- With engine off, voltage is 12+ = fresh battery. >- Spark generator directly from battery to regulator F terminal. >- With engine on, battery voltage drops. >- With engine on, voltage at the regulator F terminal is 24v or >more, which John Twist says means the generator is not properly polarized. > >So how do I polarize it? Is it dead if it does not respond properly? > >Michael Rowe >The Holy Sprite >------------------------ Tim Collins From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sat Apr 27 20:20:32 2013 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:20:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MG Midget AH Sprite Spridget Ultimate Project? Message-ID: Just ran across this on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Street-Racer-MG-Midget-AH-Sprite-Sp ridget-Ultimate-Project-/221214897613?pt=US_Cars_Trucks &hash=item33816f75cd From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Apr 28 06:47:18 2013 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:47:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93B0C6AB0F384EB8B433E26A0220E309@Home> Report from the auto electric shop: These two guys drive American cars from the '60s - no shiney chrome and paint, just old cars kept running as daily drivers. They are very sympathetic, brought me into the back of the shop, and taught me how things work and how to test. 1. The battery is good on my VOM. It simply no longer works properly - sometimes. Other times, it is fine. It's "retired." 2. The $11 analog VOM works well and is easy to interpret, but the cables are too short to be useful on a car. 3. My old regulator is toast. One of the points is perminantly closed. Maybe adjustable. 4. My new regulator, adjusted by Moss for $20 extra, doesn't work. The generator guy said not to try to adjust it, but to send it back. He happened to have a different brand in the bottom of a cabinet, which he sold me. 5. The new generator works fine. The old one probably works fine also. 6. If you forget to attach all the wires properly, you get some funny numbers. 7. I have not yet clearly demonstrated charging. The battery is full, so maybe the field is shut off. Can't see the points on the new regulator and may have to take it out to get a closer look at the design. 8. More tests today. But I'm driving! Michael Rowe The Holy Sprite From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Apr 28 07:14:54 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (rrengineer.mike) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 06:14:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator Message-ID: Why don't you just have the regulator converted to solid state? B I had it done for my Bugeye and my BN2 that boyh use a generator. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Sb" III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Michael Rowe Date: To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator Report from the auto electric shop: These two guys drive American cars from the '60s - no shiney chrome and paint, just old cars kept running as daily drivers.B They are very sympathetic, brought me into the back of the shop, and taught me how things work and how to test. 1.B The battery is good on my VOM.B It simply no longer works properly - sometimes.B Other times, it is fine.B It's "retired." 2. The $11 analog VOM works well and is easy toB interpret, but the cables are too short to be useful on a car. 3.B My old regulator is toast.B OneB of the points is perminantly closed. Maybe adjustable. 4.B My new regulator, adjusted by Moss for $20 extra, doesn't work.B The generator guy said not to try to adjust it, but to send it back.B He happened to have a different brand in the bottomB of a cabinet, which he sold me. 5.B The new generator works fine.B The old one probably works fine also. 6. If you forget to attach all the wires properly, you get some funny numbers. 7.B I have not yet clearly demonstrated charging.B The battery is full, so maybe the field is shut off.B Can't see the points on the new regulator and may have to take it out to get a closer look at the design. 8.B More tests today. But I'm driving! Michael Rowe The Holy Sprite ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Apr 28 07:33:51 2013 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:33:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> >Why don't you just have the regulator converted to solid state? I had it done for my Bugeye and my BN2 that boyh use a generator. Does that make more sense than replacing the generator with an alternator? The car is already negative ground (with the possible exception of the cigarette lighter). Michael Rowe From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Apr 28 09:15:45 2013 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:15:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <93B0C6AB0F384EB8B433E26A0220E309@Home> References: <93B0C6AB0F384EB8B433E26A0220E309@Home> Message-ID: <71F1279D-77CB-4387-80EF-809C78BE4CB9@comcast.net> Yup.. the solid state regulator looks EXACTLY the same it just doesn't have points to go bad. It's an easy enough change, just properly connect ALL of the wires that the old regulator had. ;-) Works a treat. If you want just a daily driver than do the alternator switch, it's a fix and forget way of doing things. Lester On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Report from the auto electric shop: > These two guys drive American cars from the '60s - no shiney chrome and paint, just old cars kept running as daily drivers. They are very sympathetic, brought me into the back of the shop, and taught me how things work and how to test. > > 1. The battery is good on my VOM. It simply no longer works properly - sometimes. Other times, it is fine. It's "retired." > 2. The $11 analog VOM works well and is easy to interpret, but the cables are too short to be useful on a car. > 3. My old regulator is toast. One of the points is perminantly closed. Maybe adjustable. > 4. My new regulator, adjusted by Moss for $20 extra, doesn't work. The generator guy said not to try to adjust it, but to send it back. He happened to have a different brand in the bottom of a cabinet, which he sold me. > 5. The new generator works fine. The old one probably works fine also. > 6. If you forget to attach all the wires properly, you get some funny numbers. > 7. I have not yet clearly demonstrated charging. The battery is full, so maybe the field is shut off. Can't see the points on the new regulator and may have to take it out to get a closer look at the design. > 8. More tests today. > > But I'm driving! > Michael Rowe > The Holy Sprite > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Apr 28 11:02:18 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MG Midget AH Sprite Spridget Ultimate Project? Message-ID: <1528f7.5775bf35.3eaeb01a@aol.com> I hate the fuel filler position. All it does is create potential for fuel spillage to enter the boot. If the filler had been mounted in the standard position any spillage would run down the side of the car and the pipe run would have been shorter. The roll bar needs a diagonal. I suppose it might be worth buying as a project that can be made into something decent at less expense than the vendor had to pay. Regards Daniel In a message dated 28/04/2013 03:40:12 GMT Daylight Time, d.swanson at earthlink.net writes: Just ran across this on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Street-Racer-MG-Midget-AH-Sprite-Sp ridget-Ultimate-Project-/221214897613?pt=US_Cars_Trucks &hash=item33816f75cd From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Apr 28 15:44:32 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> Message-ID: <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> You only need to change to an alternator if you are going to put a heavier load on the electrical system than normal.B The original system works very well running what came with the car.B A solid state regulator makes it work better.B Changing to an alternator is a simpler system though. Mike --- On Sun, 4/28/13, Michael Rowe wrote: From: Michael Rowe Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator To: "rrengineer.mike" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 1:33 PM o;? >Why don't you just have the regulator converted to solid state? I had it done for my Bugeye and my BN2 that boyh use a generator. B Does that make more sense than replacing the generator with an alternator?B The car is already negative ground (with the possible exception of the cigarette lighter). B Michael Rowe From stargazer1 at cox.net Sun Apr 28 17:23:07 2013 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:23:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions Message-ID: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> First, a little background: My son's '70 Midget developed an exhaust leak. After a bit of poking around, we found it at the junction between the exhaust manifold and the down pipe. A little further poking around revealed the lack of any bracing for that pipe, hence the leak. Both the engine bracket and strap were missing. We fabricated a replacement brace, and after congratulating ourselves for mechanical prowess, good character and general cleverness, we went to replace the donut seal. First two flange bolts came out fine, the third one, not so much. Broke off flush. My neighborhood machine shop was more than happy to trade an official portrait of Andrew Jackson for an empty hole. They also put helicoils in all the holes because they didn't like the way they looked. These guys are now some of my favorite people. We're ready for reassembly, but have a few questions: 1. The parts catalog shows studs in the manifold. How long should they be? 2. Should we use high strength brass nuts to bolt down the flange? 3. should we use copper gasket dressing on the intake/exhaust manifold gasket? Cheers, Dave Ambrose From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Apr 28 17:44:18 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:44:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions In-Reply-To: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> References: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> Message-ID: I have a 1500cc block in a 1969 Datsun pickup. 1. I don't know how long the studs are 2. High-strength brass nuts? Ye jest?? Just use brass nuts and a washer. 3. No extra stickum in there; It'll just get in the way the next time you replace the donut. Generic donuts are available at NAPA's in various sizes. You'll want to tighten the nuts every time it gets loud; then replace the donut when that doesn't work. ...Bill in Oregon ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Ambrose Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 4:23 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions First, a little background: My son's '70 Midget developed an exhaust leak. After a bit of poking around, we found it at the junction between the exhaust manifold and the down pipe. A little further poking around revealed the lack of any bracing for that pipe, hence the leak. Both the engine bracket and strap were missing. We fabricated a replacement brace, and after congratulating ourselves for mechanical prowess, good character and general cleverness, we went to replace the donut seal. First two flange bolts came out fine, the third one, not so much. Broke off flush. My neighborhood machine shop was more than happy to trade an official portrait of Andrew Jackson for an empty hole. They also put helicoils in all the holes because they didn't like the way they looked. These guys are now some of my favorite people. We're ready for reassembly, but have a few questions: 1. The parts catalog shows studs in the manifold. How long should they be? 2. Should we use high strength brass nuts to bolt down the flange? 3. should we use copper gasket dressing on the intake/exhaust manifold gasket? Cheers, Dave Ambrose ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From jpaschke at bak.rr.com Sun Apr 28 17:44:47 2013 From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:44:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions In-Reply-To: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> References: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> Message-ID: <517DB46F.9040203@bak.rr.com> I think the studs are the same as the intake/exhaust studs on the motor. Yes, use brass nuts. Not necessary but use a new gasket and make sure all is clean/spotless. Good luck and have fun! Jon On 4/28/2013 4:23 PM, David Ambrose wrote: > First, a little background: > My son's '70 Midget developed an exhaust leak. After a bit of poking > around, we found it at the junction between the exhaust manifold and the > down pipe. A little further poking around revealed the lack of any > bracing for that pipe, hence the leak. Both the engine bracket and strap > were missing. > > We fabricated a replacement brace, and after congratulating ourselves > for mechanical prowess, good character and general cleverness, we went > to replace the donut seal. First two flange bolts came out fine, the > third one, not so much. Broke off flush. > > My neighborhood machine shop was more than happy to trade an official > portrait of Andrew Jackson for an empty hole. They also put helicoils in > all the holes because they didn't like the way they looked. These guys > are now some of my favorite people. > > We're ready for reassembly, but have a few questions: > > 1. The parts catalog shows studs in the manifold. How long should they be? > 2. Should we use high strength brass nuts to bolt down the flange? > 3. should we use copper gasket dressing on the intake/exhaust manifold > gasket? > > Cheers, > Dave Ambrose > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jpaschke at bak.rr.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Apr 28 17:48:01 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:48:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> I disagree Mike, There are'nt even ball bearings in the original generator setup. Then the regulator, adjustment would drift as the points wore, Or they would fuse together totally if the car sat for any amount of time. It was a mess. In my mind, the only reason to run the generator is if your doing it for the concours aspect and you trailer the car to the shows. With the early cars a reason often given to stay with the generator is to preserve the tach drive. I say that the original mechanical tach is also a liability, and it is easier & better to locate an aftermarket tach with the same sweep and transplant it's internals into a junked original tach (which is what I did) or substitute a later leyland electric tach. Like Collins, I'm going to post detailed pics of my conversion with the Honda alternator. The more "know working options" the better. Now, all this being said, it is all because we wish to drive the car without worry. But I have kept the original generator and the tach drive (and a good tach) to hand down to the next owner should they desire to go back to original. I would say that converting to an alternator was the best thing I ever did. I did that back when Frank posted those original instructions. I have had zero charging issues since that conversion. I've gone through one battery since the conversion. But I suspect the alternator will out live me. I seem to recall that there was somebody who was inserting alternator guts into original Lucas generators housings. Anybody recall who that is? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:45 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Michael Rowe Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator You only need to change to an alternator if you are going to put a heavier load on the electrical system than normal.B The original system works very well running what came with the car.B A solid state regulator makes it work better.B Changing to an alternator is a simpler system though. Mike From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Apr 28 17:53:01 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:53:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions In-Reply-To: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> References: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> Message-ID: <62D97B05020849AC8DFE911BC0ECE099@blackbox2> Whenever I suspect I am in a potentially leaking exhausting situation, I use the exhaust sealing paste. Just like Ed China does on "Wheeler Dealers". From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Apr 28 18:05:54 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1367193954.8452.YahooMailClassic@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Dean, I do not disagree with what you are saying. The only cost I incurred to make my system more reliable was the solid state regulator and even that was not totally necessary. I use an Optima battery, the original generator I had rebuilt in 1999, tach drive (still the original Lucas gear reduction drive) and still positive ground. The car keeps running and charging the battery and will probably still be doing it for the foreseeable future. I may entertain switching to an alternator, but that will be when I run out of things to do, like the ongoing restoration of my BN2. Mike MacLean --- On Sun, 4/28/13, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: RE: [Spridgets] generator/regulator To: "'Michael MacLean'" , spridgets at autox.team.net, "'Michael Rowe'" Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 11:48 PM I disagree Mike, There are'nt even ball bearings in the original generator setup. Then the regulator, adjustment would drift as the points wore, Or they would fuse together totally if the car sat for any amount of time. It was a mess. In my mind, the only reason to run the generator is if your doing it for the concours aspect and you trailer the car to the shows. With the early cars a reason often given to stay with the generator is to preserve the tach drive. I say that the original mechanical tach is also a liability, and it is easier & better to locate an aftermarket tach with the same sweep and transplant it's internals into a junked original tach (which is what I did) or substitute a later leyland electric tach. Like Collins, I'm going to post detailed pics of my conversion with the Honda alternator. The more "know working options" the better. Now, all this being said, it is all because we wish to drive the car without worry. But I have kept the original generator and the tach drive (and a good tach) to hand down to the next owner should they desire to go back to original. I would say that converting to an alternator was the best thing I ever did. I did that back when Frank posted those original instructions. I have had zero charging issues since that conversion. I've gone through one battery since the conversion. But I suspect the alternator will out live me. I seem to recall that there was somebody who was inserting alternator guts into original Lucas generators housings. Anybody recall who that is? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:45 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Michael Rowe Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator You only need to change to an alternator if you are going to put a heavier load on the electrical system than normal.B The original system works very well running what came with the car.B A solid state regulator makes it work better.B Changing to an alternator is a simpler system though. Mike From lsr_man at yahoo.com Sun Apr 28 18:19:22 2013 From: lsr_man at yahoo.com (Dick J) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions In-Reply-To: <62D97B05020849AC8DFE911BC0ECE099@blackbox2> References: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> <62D97B05020849AC8DFE911BC0ECE099@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1367194762.54154.YahooMailNeo@web162306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> It seems like drilling and helicoiling for replacement studs was an un-necessary expense. I just drilled out all three holes and used bolts and nuts. Drop the bolts down from the top, and nuts on the bottom. DickJ >________________________________ > From: Dean Hedin >To: 'David Ambrose' ; Spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:53 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions > > >Whenever I suspect I am in a potentially leaking exhausting situation, I use >the exhaust sealing paste. >Just like Ed China does on "Wheeler Dealers". >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lsr_man at yahoo.com From stargazer1 at cox.net Sun Apr 28 18:56:24 2013 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:56:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions In-Reply-To: <1367194762.54154.YahooMailNeo@web162306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> <62D97B05020849AC8DFE911BC0ECE099@blackbox2> <1367194762.54154.YahooMailNeo@web162306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <517DC538.9040301@cox.net> On 4/28/2013 5:19 PM, Dick J wrote: > It seems like drilling and helicoiling for replacement studs was an > un-necessary expense. I just drilled out all three holes and used > bolts and nuts. Drop the bolts down from the top, and nuts on the bottom. They did the helicoils for free, so who am I to argue? Thanks for the tip about the bolts though. I might do that next time on the B. Cheers, Dave Ambrose From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Apr 28 18:56:55 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:56:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> Message-ID: <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> The original generator setup has a ball bearing on the pulley end of the shaft. Sent from my keyboard On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:48 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > I disagree Mike, > > There are'nt even ball bearings in the original generator setup. Then the > regulator, adjustment would drift as the points wore, > Or they would fuse together totally if the car sat for any amount of time. > It was a mess. > > In my mind, the only reason to run the generator is if your doing it for the > concours aspect and you trailer the car to the shows. > > With the early cars a reason often given to stay with the generator is to > preserve the tach drive. > > I say that the original mechanical tach is also a liability, and it is > easier & better to locate an aftermarket tach with the same sweep > and transplant it's internals into a junked original tach (which is what I > did) or substitute a later leyland electric tach. > > Like Collins, I'm going to post detailed pics of my conversion with the > Honda alternator. The more "know working options" > the better. > > Now, all this being said, it is all because we wish to drive the car without > worry. But I have kept the original generator > and the tach drive (and a good tach) to hand down to the next owner should > they desire to go back to original. > > I would say that converting to an alternator was the best thing I ever did. > I did that back when Frank posted those original > instructions. I have had zero charging issues since that conversion. I've > gone through one battery since the conversion. > But I suspect the alternator will out live me. > > I seem to recall that there was somebody who was inserting alternator guts > into original Lucas generators housings. > Anybody recall who that is? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:45 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Michael Rowe > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator > > You only need to change to an alternator if you are going to put a heavier > load on the electrical system than normal.B The original system works very > well running what came with the car.B A solid state regulator makes it work > better.B Changing to an alternator is a simpler system though. > Mike > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Apr 28 19:36:55 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:36:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home><1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> I stand corrected, but I am undeterred. You need ball bearings at both ends... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:57 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator The original generator setup has a ball bearing on the pulley end of the shaft. From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Apr 28 19:47:30 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:47:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> Message-ID: Yeah, after 100,000 miles the bushing on the commutator end wears out. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Apr 28, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > I stand corrected, but I am undeterred. > You need ball bearings at both ends... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:57 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator > > The original generator setup has a ball bearing on the pulley end of the > shaft. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Apr 28 21:00:00 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:00:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home><1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2><6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net><183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> Message-ID: <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> Yeah, maybe. IF you remember to lubricate it. But I don't know of any alternators running bronze bushings. But it doesn't matter. The commutaing brushes won't make past 20,000 miles anyhow. If you think you can argue that generators last as long as alternators, Well let me tell ya...it ain't happening. All I can say is..God Bless Nikolia Tesla. And thank him for your ignition system too.. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:48 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator Yeah, after 100,000 miles the bushing on the commutator end wears out. :-) From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Apr 28 21:08:47 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:08:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> Message-ID: <64F0F7D0-2E0B-44A9-AA0E-14D3A150BF40@chartermi.net> Tesla was quite a guy - I'm a fan. Made Edison look like a money grubbing putz. Sent from my keyboard On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:00 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > Yeah, maybe. IF you remember to lubricate it. > > But I don't know of any alternators running bronze bushings. > But it doesn't matter. The commutaing brushes won't make past 20,000 miles > anyhow. > > If you think you can argue that generators last as long as alternators, > Well let me tell ya...it ain't happening. > > All I can say is..God Bless Nikolia Tesla. And thank him for your ignition > system too.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:48 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator > > Yeah, after 100,000 miles the bushing on the commutator end wears out. :-) From mark at bradakis.com Sun Apr 28 21:28:03 2013 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:28:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home><1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2><6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net><183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> Message-ID: <517DE8C3.1010708@bradakis.com> Dean Hedin wrote: > All I can say is..God Bless Nikolia Tesla. And thank him for your ignition > system too.. > And the electricity in your house, and your cell phone, and ... mjb. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Apr 29 00:25:12 2013 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 01:25:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home><1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2><6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net><183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> Message-ID: <517E1248.3000203@justbrits.com> << On 4/28/2013 10:00 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > The commutaing brushes won't make past 20,000 miles anyhow. >> Dean, I suggest you RUN away from ANY and ALL motor vehicles not DELIVERED with the new-fangled electrical device known as a alternator. Prolly better stay away anything bigger than a single cylinder 2-cycle motor too. Alternators much "fatter" than said motors would be beyond your "talents" for keeping rotating masses in even a remote 'line' ! ! Sorry to be bearer of bad news (you prob'ly suspected as much tho). Ed From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Apr 29 06:35:46 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 05:35:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past. Message-ID: <650721DEF46F4F8DA8D5D0447D4E292A@spider> http://tinyurl.com/bvwbk6x .Bill in Oregon From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Apr 29 08:07:39 2013 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:07:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Blast from the past Message-ID: <2540FC23E6D24EA1AB9AAB1E99A1B6D3@Home> Here's another photo of that car. I don't know where I got it. Michael Rowe [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Works Sprite 8426UE.jpg] From stargazer1 at cox.net Mon Apr 29 09:50:57 2013 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:50:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A couple of exhausting questions In-Reply-To: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> References: <517DAF5B.5040303@cox.net> Message-ID: <517E96E1.7080200@cox.net> Thanks for all the good info. We'll start reassembly today. :-) On 4/28/2013 4:23 PM, David Ambrose wrote: > First, a little background: > My son's '70 Midget developed an exhaust leak. After a bit of poking > around, we found it at the junction between the exhaust manifold and the > down pipe. A little further poking around revealed the lack of any > bracing for that pipe, hence the leak. Both the engine bracket and strap > were missing. > > We fabricated a replacement brace, and after congratulating ourselves > for mechanical prowess, good character and general cleverness, we went > to replace the donut seal. First two flange bolts came out fine, the > third one, not so much. Broke off flush. > > My neighborhood machine shop was more than happy to trade an official > portrait of Andrew Jackson for an empty hole. They also put helicoils in > all the holes because they didn't like the way they looked. These guys > are now some of my favorite people. > > We're ready for reassembly, but have a few questions: > > 1. The parts catalog shows studs in the manifold. How long should they be? > 2. Should we use high strength brass nuts to bolt down the flange? > 3. should we use copper gasket dressing on the intake/exhaust manifold > gasket? > > Cheers, > Dave Ambrose > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1 at cox.net From cmlove at knology.net Mon Apr 29 11:25:55 2013 From: cmlove at knology.net (cmlove at knology.net) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Relay Bypass?? In-Reply-To: <1134217164.21751368.1367256354274.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: <96420603.21751382.1367256355261.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Hello All; I am installing a new wiring harness and the fuse box has a starter relay installed already. I seem to remember that somewhere in the archives or someonebs mind there is a procedure for bypassing the standard starter relay or just using it as a junction for some of the connections. I have forgotten how to access and search the archives. I believe this is one of Frankbs old instructions. Any ideas? I have a 1972 Midget. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks. Monty Love Huntsville, Alabama From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Apr 29 11:41:54 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Relay Bypass?? In-Reply-To: <96420603.21751382.1367256355261.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> References: <96420603.21751382.1367256355261.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Message-ID: <1367257314.78564.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Monty, It's easy to overlook, but the link to the archives is at the bottom of every message. Archive: http://www.team.net/archive jay fishbein wallingford, ct 63 Pink Mk II 61 Innocenti Spider 950 ________________________________ From: "cmlove at knology.net" I have forgotten how to access and search the archives. From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Apr 29 12:11:53 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:11:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past Message-ID: Who's that driving? Anyone we know? _________________________________ From: Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past. http://tinyurl.com/bvwbk6x .Bill in Oregon From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Apr 29 13:34:48 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:34:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: A blast from the past Message-ID: <506A771CB7FC4D2B8AAF12073FEE608D@spider> http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=338388 ========================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'rbastedo at gmail.com' Subject: RE: [Spridgets] A blast from the past >From http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15137/Austin-Healey-Nassau-Sprite.aspx "After racing at Sebring, 8426 UE remained in the United States though much of its history from that point forward is unknown. It was purchased by Mark Flanders of Weston, Florida in 1986 and given a frame-off restoration in 1990. In 2008, it was freshened with new paint and mechanical work. It was then brought to the SVRA Spring Fling event where it took first, and earned another first in the HSR night race. It won first place awards at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance and the Boca Raton Concours d'Elegance." ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:12 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A blast from the past Who's that driving? Anyone we know? _________________________________ From: Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past. http://tinyurl.com/bvwbk6x .Bill in Oregon ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Apr 29 13:37:11 2013 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:37:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: A blast from the past Message-ID: <3476FF27C9D04AF3ABD6E75272E965EF@spider> http://tinyurl.com/c9tdegz ===================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:35 PM To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net' Subject: FW: [Spridgets] A blast from the past http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=338388 ========================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'rbastedo at gmail.com' Subject: RE: [Spridgets] A blast from the past >From http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15137/Austin-Healey-Nassau-Sprite.aspx "After racing at Sebring, 8426 UE remained in the United States though much of its history from that point forward is unknown. It was purchased by Mark Flanders of Weston, Florida in 1986 and given a frame-off restoration in 1990. In 2008, it was freshened with new paint and mechanical work. It was then brought to the SVRA Spring Fling event where it took first, and earned another first in the HSR night race. It won first place awards at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance and the Boca Raton Concours d'Elegance." ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:12 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A blast from the past Who's that driving? Anyone we know? _________________________________ From: Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past. http://tinyurl.com/bvwbk6x .Bill in Oregon ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Apr 29 13:44:59 2013 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FW: A blast from the past In-Reply-To: <3476FF27C9D04AF3ABD6E75272E965EF@spider> Message-ID: <1367264699.68093.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Still using a generator too. Mike MacLean --- On Mon, 4/29/13, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: From: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: [Spridgets] FW: A blast from the past To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 7:37 PM http://tinyurl.com/c9tdegz ===================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:35 PM To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net' Subject: FW: [Spridgets] A blast from the past http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=338388 ========================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'rbastedo at gmail.com' Subject: RE: [Spridgets] A blast from the past From http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15137/Austin-Healey-Nassau-Sprite.aspx "After racing at Sebring, 8426 UE remained in the United States though much of its history from that point forward is unknown. It was purchased by Mark Flanders of Weston, Florida in 1986 and given a frame-off restoration in 1990. In 2008, it was freshened with new paint and mechanical work. It was then brought to the SVRA Spring Fling event where it took first, and earned another first in the HSR night race. It won first place awards at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance and the Boca Raton Concours d'Elegance." ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:12 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A blast from the past Who's that driving? Anyone we know? _________________________________ From: Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past. http://tinyurl.com/bvwbk6x .Bill in Oregon ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Apr 30 10:40:17 2013 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FW: A blast from the past Message-ID: <271ed.70c2393a.3eb14df1@aol.com> Pity it has the wrong steering wheel! In a message dated 29/04/2013 20:38:25 GMT Daylight Time, corvallis at peoplepc.com writes: http://tinyurl.com/c9tdegz ===================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:35 PM To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net' Subject: FW: [Spridgets] A blast from the past http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=338388 From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Apr 30 12:20:27 2013 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:20:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past Message-ID: Kind of looks like Burt Levy in the seat... :-) ____________________________ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:11:53 -0700 From: Rick Bastedo Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A blast from the past Who's that driving? Anyone we know? ____________________________ From: Subject: [Spridgets] A blast from the past. http://tinyurl.com/bvwbk6x .Bill in Oregon From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Apr 30 16:22:37 2013 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MG Midget AH Sprite Spridget Ultimate Project? In-Reply-To: <1528f7.5775bf35.3eaeb01a@aol.com> References: <1528f7.5775bf35.3eaeb01a@aol.com> Message-ID: <1367360557.69746.YahooMailNeo@web122105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Seems way overbid the state of the bid. Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." >________________________________ > From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" >To: d.swanson at earthlink.net; spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:02 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG Midget AH Sprite Spridget Ultimate Project? > > >I hate the fuel filler position. All it does is create potential for >fuel spillage to enter the boot. If the filler had been mounted in the >standard position any spillage would run down the side of the car and the pipe >run would have been shorter. > >The roll bar needs a diagonal. > >I suppose it might be worth buying as a project that can be made into >something decent at less expense than the vendor had to pay. > >Regards > > >Daniel > > >In a message dated 28/04/2013 03:40:12 GMT Daylight Time, >d.swanson at earthlink.net writes: > >Just ran across this on eBay: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Street-Racer-MG-Midget-AH-Sprite-Sp >ridget-Ultimate-Project-/221214897613?pt=US_Cars_Trucks >pridget-Ultimate-Project-/221214897613?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item33816f75cd >> &hash=item33816f75cd >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Apr 30 18:43:42 2013 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:43:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <517E1248.3000203@justbrits.com> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home><1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2><6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net><183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2><98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> <517E1248.3000203@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <9DB56F5BDA504A298F4A619695AAA6BA@blackbox2> Tell you what. My final thoughts on this...after several beers. I think more LBC's have been set aside to rot away as a result of generator/regulator issues than anything else. Yep. That's what I believe. If more folks were proactive back in the 60's and 70's to convert the cars to alternators then there would be a lot more surviving LBCs on the road today. Instead, the owners got frustrated, parked them "out back", and now they have a tree growing up through the center of them. These cars are lost forever. Yeah, it's great that some can get by with the the original generator setup. But these individuals should not scorn the move to convert to alternators. It is not in their best interest, nor is it in the best interest of the hobby in general. I believe that the the popularity and intrigue of the little British sports car lives and dies by it's presence on the road. This is confirmed to me every day that I observe a "head turn" as my little Bugeye blasts by someone. They can't belive what they are looking at. It's not hard to convert to an alternator. But more importantly, it's not hard to convert back to a generator if you want to later on. There is no "heresy" here. It is a trivial thing. Anyone who would tell you differently is a backwards old fart that can't evolve. Shame on them! So don't be an asshole and somehow try to claim that the generator is better or as good as an alternator. You can't win the arguemet. Go ahead. I am ready to defend the alternator. Mr. Rowe is struggling here. Spring time is Sprite time. Can we get past this? Make them reliable. Drive them all you can... From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Apr 30 19:03:12 2013 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:03:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <9DB56F5BDA504A298F4A619695AAA6BA@blackbox2> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> <517E1248.3000203@justbrits.com> <9DB56F5BDA504A298F4A619695AAA6BA@blackbox2> Message-ID: Seems like most I've seen had the first gear worn out because of the lack of synchro thing. That, the electrics, and the dual carbs caused a lot of issues. I'm more of a 71-74 RWA guy, though, so mostly familiar with alternator types. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Tell you what. My final thoughts on this...after several beers. > > I think more LBC's have been set aside to rot away as a result of > generator/regulator issues than anything else. > Yep. That's what I believe. > > If more folks were proactive back in the 60's and 70's to convert the cars > to alternators then there would be a lot > more surviving LBCs on the road today. Instead, the owners got frustrated, > parked them "out back", and now they have > a tree growing up through the center of them. These cars are lost forever. > > Yeah, it's great that some can get by with the the original generator > setup. > But these individuals > should not scorn the move to convert to alternators. It is not in their > best interest, nor is it in the best interest > of the hobby in general. > > I believe that the the popularity and intrigue of the little British sports > car lives and dies by it's presence on the road. > This is confirmed to me every day that I observe a "head turn" as my little > Bugeye blasts by someone. > They can't belive what they are looking at. > > It's not hard to convert to an alternator. But more importantly, it's not > hard to convert back to a generator if you want to > later on. There is no "heresy" here. It is a trivial thing. Anyone who > would tell you differently is a backwards > old fart that can't evolve. Shame on them! > > So don't be an asshole and somehow try to claim that the generator is > better > or as good as an alternator. > You can't win the arguemet. Go ahead. I am ready to defend the alternator. > > > Mr. Rowe is struggling here. Spring time is Sprite time. Can we get past > this? > > Make them reliable. Drive them all you can... > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Apr 30 19:20:12 2013 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:20:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <9DB56F5BDA504A298F4A619695AAA6BA@blackbox2> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> <517E1248.3000203@justbrits.com> <9DB56F5BDA504A298F4A619695AAA6BA@blackbox2> Message-ID: <489FA0D5-67DF-4986-8CA4-208D4BB8B52D@chartermi.net> Worn throttle shafts on the SU's is what I think parked a lot of Spridgets. I don't drink. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > Tell you what. My final thoughts on this...after several beers. > > I think more LBC's have been set aside to rot away as a result of > generator/regulator issues than anything else. > Yep. That's what I believe. > > If more folks were proactive back in the 60's and 70's to convert the cars > to alternators then there would be a lot > more surviving LBCs on the road today. Instead, the owners got frustrated, > parked them "out back", and now they have > a tree growing up through the center of them. These cars are lost forever. > > Yeah, it's great that some can get by with the the original generator setup. > But these individuals > should not scorn the move to convert to alternators. It is not in their > best interest, nor is it in the best interest > of the hobby in general. > > I believe that the the popularity and intrigue of the little British sports > car lives and dies by it's presence on the road. > This is confirmed to me every day that I observe a "head turn" as my little > Bugeye blasts by someone. > They can't belive what they are looking at. > > It's not hard to convert to an alternator. But more importantly, it's not > hard to convert back to a generator if you want to > later on. There is no "heresy" here. It is a trivial thing. Anyone who > would tell you differently is a backwards > old fart that can't evolve. Shame on them! > > So don't be an asshole and somehow try to claim that the generator is better > or as good as an alternator. > You can't win the arguemet. Go ahead. I am ready to defend the alternator. > > > Mr. Rowe is struggling here. Spring time is Sprite time. Can we get past > this? > > Make them reliable. Drive them all you can... > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Apr 30 19:49:51 2013 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <489FA0D5-67DF-4986-8CA4-208D4BB8B52D@chartermi.net> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> <517E1248.3000203@justbrits.com> <9DB56F5BDA504A298F4A619695AAA6BA@blackbox2> <489FA0D5-67DF-4986-8CA4-208D4BB8B52D@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1367372991.24948.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> There have been some nice Bugeyes that were "parked" in the early 60's because they needed a clutch. jay ________________________________ From: Rick Fisk To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Tue, April 30, 2013 9:26:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator Worn throttle shafts on the SU's is what I think parked a lot of Spridgets. I don't drink. :-) From pelliott at innercite.com Tue Apr 30 20:03:33 2013 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat Elliott) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:03:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] generator/regulator In-Reply-To: <1367372991.24948.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <457082495EF94C2A899F38C12ECC8E0C@Home> <1367185472.86150.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7ECCF43C8FE84E61A6D69AF918EC4CE8@blackbox2> <6FBCEFE2-D395-4B3E-9BC0-81E3E608D497@chartermi.net> <183E83A4DDC4401F9CE02B91C67C0FC2@blackbox2> <98CB0EC28F13432B876DC31A117BA56E@blackbox2> <517E1248.3000203@justbrits.com> <9DB56F5BDA504A298F4A619695AAA6BA@blackbox2> <489FA0D5-67DF-4986-8CA4-208D4BB8B52D@chartermi.net> <1367372991.24948.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And some were parked because shit happens,,, but that doesn't detract from Deans point. Make YOUR car as original, or reliable, or both as you want it.. Jay wrote: >There have been some nice Bugeyes that were "parked" in the early 60's >because >they needed a clutch. > >jay > > > > >________________________________ >From: Rick Fisk >To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" >Sent: Tue, April 30, 2013 9:26:40 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator > >Worn throttle shafts on the SU's is what I think parked a lot of >Spridgets. I >don't drink. :-) >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com Via tablet---.