From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Nov  1 08:16:48 2012
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:16:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 61 Sprite ! ! !
In-Reply-To: <03B51B55-165A-45DD-A198-2B4541EEC5C5@verizon.net>
References: <50920088.80300@justbrits.com>
	<03B51B55-165A-45DD-A198-2B4541EEC5C5@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1351779408.42093.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

For me it is reminiscent of the Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_the_Beholder


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkzwLvVFRSE 

jay




________________________________
From: David Strickler <dbstrick at verizon.net>
To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 10:02:28 AM
Subject: Re: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... 61 Sprite ! ! !

Interesting Bugeye. 
Would I do that to my '61? No I would not. Not now, nor back when it was a 
basket case when I started my restoration.
However, I do admire folks who take a vision of theirs, and see it through to 
fruition, regardless  of the outcome. This person took an awful lot of time, 
money, and creativity to accomplish this. I see all kinds of old cars chopped, 
channeled, and slammed with all kinds of high powered crate motors wedged in and 
I see a thing of beauty (in most cases). It may, or may not,  look anything like 
the original, but it is certainly an expression of one's individuality. If 
you're a purest and see a potentially good bugeye destroyed in the process, so 
be it. Maybe it was a bugeye that was ready for the boneyard and it was 
reincarnated in its second life as something slightly different. The fact of the 
matter is, it's back on the road resembling a bugeye. Not a pure bugeye, but a 
reasonable facsimile of one. Sometimes I wish I had the ability to envision, and 
the talent to complete, something like this. Just for the fun of it. 

It's one of the things that make this hobby so interesting. So many people, so 
many cars, so many variations.
Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder.

I really do enjoy when you folks forward links like this one. Keep it up!

Dave

On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Just Brits Shop wrote:

> This went CHEAP ! ! ! ! ! !
> 
> Ed
> 
>****************************************************************************************
>*
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/d5a4w58
> 
> or
> 
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-AUSTIN-HEALEY-BugEye-Sprite-w-383-Stroker-Motor-V8-/230864582910?forcev4exp=true
>e

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  1 08:45:07 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:45:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: 61 Sprite ! ! !
In-Reply-To: <1351779408.42093.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <50920088.80300@justbrits.com>
	<03B51B55-165A-45DD-A198-2B4541EEC5C5@verizon.net>
	<1351779408.42093.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1351781107.65027.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

So Jay, are you saying it's a pig?



 
Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
________________________________
 From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
To:
bugeye at yahoogroups.com; Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday,
November 1, 2012 10:16 AM
Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: 61 Sprite ! !
!
 

  
For me it is reminiscent of the Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the
Beholder"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_the_Beholder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkzwLvVFRSE 

jay

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 09:59:01 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:59:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 61 Sprite ! ! !
In-Reply-To: <1351779408.42093.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <50920088.80300@justbrits.com>
	<03B51B55-165A-45DD-A198-2B4541EEC5C5@verizon.net>
	<1351779408.42093.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78bOdSFVde=Ly0jfzEe-fd9aD4YnT-mt1DRjvHiqBVbcg@mail.gmail.com>

For the same money/time/effort you could have a beautiful Bugeye with
1380 that would be way more fun to drive and would not overheat.
To each his own.  But, turning a Bugeye into that is just something
that one shouldn't do.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Nov  1 13:04:36 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:04:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBCs and Beatles
Message-ID: <f794.4684c5a4.3dc421c4@aol.com>

While the Jag XK and A-M SB straight sixes look the similar they are  
apparently quite different.  The oil filler/breather is in a similar place  at 
the front and top of both engines but I think only the DB one has a  filler.
 
I think the XK has more main bearings than the DB which is what makes it a  
better engine. Not sure on valve sizes angles etc except there are a bunch 
of  extra specials for the XK (D-type, wide angle etc).
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 31/10/2012 23:05:13 Coordinated Universal Time,  
abcoz at hky.com writes:

Aston  Martin used their own DOHC, inline six in all of the DB series cars
right  up to the DBS......which I seem to recall could be had with either 
the
six  or with Aston's newly designed (at that time) V8.
For a while, back in the  late 80s & early 90s, DB 2s, 4s, 5s & 6s were 
going
for well under  $10K!  I've always lusted after a DB4 or a DB5, in Vantage 
or
GT  tune.  Too bad I couldn't afford one when they were sort of  affordable!

Bud Osbourne

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu Nov  1 14:20:31 2012
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:20:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBCs and Beatles
In-Reply-To: <f794.4684c5a4.3dc421c4@aol.com>
References: <f794.4684c5a4.3dc421c4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008101cdb86e$584f2e70$08ed8b50$@hky.com>

The Jag engine was NEVER proven to be a better engine than the Aston
unit...just had significantly more displacement.  Remember, when BMC went
from five to seven main bearings, on their C series engine, the end result
was a more sluggish unit.  Looking back on the Aston Martin engine's racing
history, the engine was NEVER a weak part of their car.  About the only
circuit where the D-Type Jag had a clear advantage over the Aston Martin
DB3S, or the LeMans-winning DBR1 was at LeMans.  The Astons routinely and
soundly beat the C-Type and D-Type jags at most other racing venues.

 

For Christmas, about 20 years ago, I was given a two volume history of the
post-war Aston Martins called "Racing With the David Brown Aston Martins".
It is a fascinating read and details the development of the DB six cylinder
engine and the cars that it powered.  Included is plenty of racing history,
including the personal side of racing, with interviews with John Wyer,
Sterling Moss, Carroll Shelby and many others.  Great photos, too!  Lots of
"insider" information about Peter Collins, Shelby, Moss and other who drove
for the Aston Martin works team.

I'm guessing that Amazon.com would probably be able to provide you with a
copy of both volumes for a lot less than what it cost 20 years ago.......

 

Bud Osbourne

 

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:05 PM
To: abcoz at hky.com; khargreaves2 at gmail.com; healeyrick at yahoo.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBCs and Beatles

 

While the Jag XK and A-M SB straight sixes look the similar they are
apparently quite different.  The oil filler/breather is in a similar place
at the front and top of both engines but I think only the DB one has a
filler.

 

I think the XK has more main bearings than the DB which is what makes it a
better engine. Not sure on valve sizes angles etc except there are a bunch
of extra specials for the XK (D-type, wide angle etc).

 

Weslake-Monza 1330

 

 

In a message dated 31/10/2012 23:05:13 Coordinated Universal Time,
abcoz at hky.com writes:

Aston Martin used their own DOHC, inline six in all of the DB series cars
right up to the DBS......which I seem to recall could be had with either the
six or with Aston's newly designed (at that time) V8.
For a while, back in the late 80s & early 90s, DB 2s, 4s, 5s & 6s were going
for well under $10K!  I've always lusted after a DB4 or a DB5, in Vantage or
GT tune.  Too bad I couldn't afford one when they were sort of affordable!

Bud Osbourne

From billgilroy at live.com  Fri Nov  2 13:39:04 2012
From: billgilroy at live.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:39:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things?  No LBC
In-Reply-To: <7D165894-1B53-4EC2-A650-60380ED2E57B@mac.com>
References: <3bed5.42c38850.3dc166e4@aol.com>,
	<7D165894-1B53-4EC2-A650-60380ED2E57B@mac.com>
Message-ID: <SNT002-W3594CAD956338D5E2A4A91AE670@phx.gbl>

 Since I am no longer on the east coast I have been following this via the
web.  Look what I found,
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=B3&Date=20121030&Category=MULTI
MEDIA02&ArtNo=310300077&Ref=PH&nclick_check=1 All my family is ok, only thing
that is unknown is my niece and her husband own a couple of shops on LBI.
They cant get on the island until Thursday. -g Sent from Windows Mail
 > From: lmacy at mac.com
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:22:31 -0400
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things?  No LBC
>
> I have no idea how much rain we got, but the power went off about 4 PM
Monday and it is now officially cold and dark in our house. The first night
was fun, DVD's in the laptop, Wine, candles and cheese in the still warm
house. The second night was a pain, we headed out to get a shower at the Step
Son's and a warm meal. PECO says they hope to get power back in the AM. No
generators to be had and no D cell batteries either.  Zero rated sleeping bags
on the water bed keeps us warm, and the hot tub lid blew open and filled with
leaves. I can see the third night being a major PITA. The rechargeable 18v
Lithium batteries are failing and HD has them for $100
>
> No trees down or damage, so I guess we would be considered lucky.
>
> But we made it.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 13:22 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > How are all you East Coast guys?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Weslake-Monza 1330
> > England
> > Uk
> > ------------------------
> >
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From george.brokaw at cox.net  Fri Nov  2 15:34:45 2012
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:34:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things?  No LBC
In-Reply-To: <SNT002-W3594CAD956338D5E2A4A91AE670@phx.gbl>
References: <3bed5.42c38850.3dc166e4@aol.com>,
	<7D165894-1B53-4EC2-A650-60380ED2E57B@mac.com>
	<SNT002-W3594CAD956338D5E2A4A91AE670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <14d501cdb941$e12a21e0$a37e65a0$@cox.net>

Here is a shorter version of that URL:

http://tinyurl.com/cvzhqkh

Note:  Third picture in is of Frank Clarici's wife Diane!

My sister and mother live ~ 20 miles northwest of Toms River and had no
damage.  Sister was without power for a day but my mother's electric was on
the entire time (and only a block from my sister's place in the same
sub-division.)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gilroy
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 2:39 PM
To: Larry Macy; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things? No LBC

 Since I am no longer on the east coast I have been following this via the
web.  Look what I found,
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=B3&Date=20121030&Category=MULT
I
MEDIA02&ArtNo=310300077&Ref=PH&nclick_check=1 All my family is ok, only
thing that is unknown is my niece and her husband own a couple of shops on
LBI.
They cant get on the island until Thursday. -g Sent from Windows Mail  >
From: lmacy at mac.com
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:22:31 -0400
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things?  No LBC
>
> I have no idea how much rain we got, but the power went off about 4 PM
Monday and it is now officially cold and dark in our house. The first night
was fun, DVD's in the laptop, Wine, candles and cheese in the still warm
house. The second night was a pain, we headed out to get a shower at the
Step Son's and a warm meal. PECO says they hope to get power back in the AM.
No generators to be had and no D cell batteries either.  Zero rated sleeping
bags on the water bed keeps us warm, and the hot tub lid blew open and
filled with leaves. I can see the third night being a major PITA. The
rechargeable 18v Lithium batteries are failing and HD has them for $100
>
> No trees down or damage, so I guess we would be considered lucky.
>
> But we made it.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 13:22 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > How are all you East Coast guys?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Weslake-Monza 1330
> > England
> > Uk
> > ------------------------

From grunt3333 at verizon.net  Fri Nov  2 17:18:59 2012
From: grunt3333 at verizon.net (grunt3333 at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:18:59 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things?  No LBC
Message-ID: <28222032.341180.1351898340037.JavaMail.root@vms170033>

/local/mailman/lynxXXXXXJTRh1: Permission denied

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Nov  3 08:07:02 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 07:07:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] be the first on your block
In-Reply-To: <CABFJSR1e8RLX94uwm52_U6QqHkt7X6_i-Z8tXVPXNOHJDnSyiQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFJSR2JxcPjuEvXRtLnj2ZVsZbdnPLuDVzTjr=i+kXh5PtxGg@mail.gmail.com><C2792D8AEE644985AB76469A6B0F52B1@spider>
	<CABFJSR1e8RLX94uwm52_U6QqHkt7X6_i-Z8tXVPXNOHJDnSyiQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AFC1E553CC8F4E70911CB119F3EAAE0F@spider>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321015713879>
&item=321015713879

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 15:18:18 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 16:18:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Beware of the next storm Wednesday!!
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurKj6Csf82dnjmbBOqmbUjTBWpT9=CgzDVdZ_79Mnjdkw@mail.gmail.com>

My good friends in Jersey, downstate New York and Long Island as well as
Delaware, Connecticut and that general area...

I don't know if your local Radio/TV media are onto this yet, but on Tuesday
night through Wednesday another Nor'easter is going to track right along
the coast from Cape Hatteras north and just off shore through Cape Cod.  It
will bring wind and rain and possibly another storm surge.

This storm isn't nearly as strong as Sandy was, but then many of you are
still reeling from Sandy and ill prepared for even a storm of lesser
intensity.

Perhaps there isn't much you can do to brace for it, perhaps there is.
Either way, I thought you should know.

Cheers!!
Jim - safely at home in Kansas...

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Sat Nov  3 16:56:33 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 18:56:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Beware of the next storm Wednesday!!
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnurKj6Csf82dnjmbBOqmbUjTBWpT9=CgzDVdZ_79Mnjdkw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJgjnurKj6Csf82dnjmbBOqmbUjTBWpT9=CgzDVdZ_79Mnjdkw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C72E45F6-F63A-4D4D-9916-F0BC7E956391@verizon.net>

Thanks Jim.  We are aware of the big nasty heading our way.  Most people in
Long Beach, NY have lost their everything and are just shrugging their
shoulders saying, there nothing else to destroy.  I've been spending the part
3 days or so working down there.  No electricity, water, heat, gas for the
generators.  They are now in the tearing up of carpets, pumping raw sewage
from basements and ripping moldy Sheetrock off walls.  Destruction
everywhere.
George

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> My good friends in Jersey, downstate New York and Long Island as well as
> Delaware, Connecticut and that general area...
>
> I don't know if your local Radio/TV media are onto this yet, but on Tuesday
> night through Wednesday another Nor'easter is going to track right along
> the coast from Cape Hatteras north and just off shore through Cape Cod.  It
> will bring wind and rain and possibly another storm surge.
>
> This storm isn't nearly as strong as Sandy was, but then many of you are
> still reeling from Sandy and ill prepared for even a storm of lesser
> intensity.
>
> Perhaps there isn't much you can do to brace for it, perhaps there is.
> Either way, I thought you should know.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim - safely at home in Kansas...
> ------------------------
>
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sat Nov  3 17:00:23 2012
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 16:00:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things?  No LBC
Message-ID: <B6E1DE5BB4E84723912E469BC96E6854@mail2world.com>

Daniel,

We fared much better than many, with no trees down and no damage to the
house. We lost power from Monday night through yesterday afternoon. We
had the wood stove for heat and cooking, so all in all not too bad.
There's one house a few doors down the street that had a big pine tree
fall on it, and a large tree took out the power lines a few houses up
the street.

We were expecting to be out of power much longer, so we did a big road
trip to my brother's house in Connecticut to borrow a generator on
Thursday, and ran it only for about 6 hours on Friday until the power
came back on. I also bought 12 gallons of gas while there (no lines), so
I have a bit for my truck should the gas rationing in North Jersey
persist for a long time.


-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>Sent: 10/30/2012 12:26:45 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] East coast guys - how are things? No LBC
>
>How are all you East Coast guys? 
> 
>Regards
> 
>Weslake-Monza 1330
>England
>Uk
>------------------------
>
>spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Nov  3 17:58:58 2012
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:58:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Beware of the next storm Wednesday!!
In-Reply-To: <C72E45F6-F63A-4D4D-9916-F0BC7E956391@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CCBAFDD2.2094C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

It's not looking good for the East Coast X tour. We were supposed to start
in NYC on the 30th. It's going to make Christmas sparse here if it doesn't
happen.
BZ

From caws52803 at aol.com  Sun Nov  4 07:08:04 2012
From: caws52803 at aol.com (Rudy Streng)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:08:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] This thing changed my life
Message-ID: <8CF88ACF120A83F-EF0-997C@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com>

Visit our dating site to find a suitable match for long term
relations!http://ceramiccoatingsfl.com/newnews.facebook.com.foxnews3.php?
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Nov  4 07:58:29 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 08:58:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] This thing changed my life
In-Reply-To: <8CF88ACF120A83F-EF0-997C@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CF88ACF120A83F-EF0-997C@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <50968295.2040000@justbrits.com>

I've already told Rudy he has been hijacked folks <F> ! ! !

Ed

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  4 12:54:14 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 14:54:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>

No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and I did
not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that in
itself is no fun!

So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to try
to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list of
things to do?  :)

Robert

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 13:24:52 2012
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:24:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAF3a=7LWSkYDuGoFZba8-vFrF8ZRamo89XHAppwYKsi0E2Kg9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Did you check the fuse?

Steve

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> wrote:

> No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and I
> did
> not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that in
> itself is no fun!
>
> So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
> try
> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list
> of
> things to do?  :)
>
> Robert
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Nov  4 13:40:39 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:40:39 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
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Rebuild it, or put in an electric fuel pump for small (4-cylinder) autos
from FLAPS. 
The God of Warm Beer is watching.  Bill in Oregon
==============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:54 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?

No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and I
did
not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that in
itself is no fun!

So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
try
to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list of
things to do?  :)

Robert
------------------------

From pvanwig at mac.com  Sun Nov  4 13:50:50 2012
From: pvanwig at mac.com (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:50:50 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
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Keep it in the ballpark. It does only needs a hard tap if thats all it needs.



Paul Van Wig
Big Bear/Long Beach, CA
pvanwigatmacdotcom
facebook.com/pvanwig










1959 Nash Metropolitan (the wife's fun ride)
1968 Morris Minor Woody RHD
1960 Bug Eye (awaiting restoration)

1980 CJ7 Lives @ 7440'
1998 Turbo Diesel Ram 2500 4X4
2003 Toyota 4Runner (the wife's Mountain car)
2012 Cadillac SRX 3.6 (the wife's work ride)

1958 Minor-wrecked
1965 Midget-parts
1981 Datsun 210 1500 w/ 5 speed

On Nov 4, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

Did you check the fuse?

Steve

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> wrote:

> No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and I
> did
> not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that in
> itself is no fun!
> 
> So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
> try
> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list
> of
> things to do?  :)
> 
> Robert
> ------------------------

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  4 15:43:50 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:43:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <A55E368E-F467-4207-8E92-91A695DD0474@mac.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
	<CAF3a=7LWSkYDuGoFZba8-vFrF8ZRamo89XHAppwYKsi0E2Kg9Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<A55E368E-F467-4207-8E92-91A695DD0474@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP10EBE0E5F73C2C3F45AC3FB8650@phx.gbl>

Well, it wasn't the fuse and I'm all tapped out for tonight.  ( pun intended).
I must have a spare pump around somewhere.  My Sprite could lend one, if I can
find it.

To add to the fun, I attempted to do an oil change and when I opened the oil
filter box it was a "what the..." moment.  I probably have 3 around somewhere;
but where?  :)

So, I put the drain plug back in and put the requisite amount of oil in and
I'll put a filter on when I can get one.  I'm kidding, of course.  ;). I did
put the drain plug back in though.

I have to get my life back in order!!

Robert
Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.

On 2012-11-04, at 3:50 PM, Paul Van Wig <pvanwig at mac.com> wrote:

> Keep it in the ballpark. It does only needs a hard tap if thats all it
needs.
>
>
>
> Paul Van Wig
> Big Bear/Long Beach, CA
> pvanwigatmacdotcom
> facebook.com/pvanwig
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 1959 Nash Metropolitan (the wife's fun ride)
> 1968 Morris Minor Woody RHD
> 1960 Bug Eye (awaiting restoration)
>
> 1980 CJ7 Lives @ 7440'
> 1998 Turbo Diesel Ram 2500 4X4
> 2003 Toyota 4Runner (the wife's Mountain car)
> 2012 Cadillac SRX 3.6 (the wife's work ride)
>
> 1958 Minor-wrecked
> 1965 Midget-parts
> 1981 Datsun 210 1500 w/ 5 speed
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Did you check the fuse?
>
> Steve
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>> wrote:
>
>> No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and I
>> did
>> not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that in
>> itself is no fun!
>>
>> So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
>> try
>> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list
>> of
>> things to do?  :)
>>
>> Robert
>> ------------------------

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Nov  5 11:13:08 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:13:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
Message-ID: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>

It may respond to being whacked  few times but one day it won't so I'd  
change it now.
 
 
In a message dated 04/11/2012 20:19:21 Coordinated Universal Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

So, I  hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to  
try
to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on  my list 
of
things to do?  :)

Robert

From jfisher3 at ptd.net  Mon Nov  5 12:55:57 2012
From: jfisher3 at ptd.net (John Fisher)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:55:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye sale
Message-ID: <016a01cdbb8f$931cd470$b9567d50$@net>

Some of you know the 59 Sprite I have owned since 1971.  It sold at the Fall
Carlisle Auction in late September.

 

http://www.auctionsamerica.com/events/feature-lots.cfm?SaleCode=FC12
<http://www.auctionsamerica.com/events/feature-lots.cfm?SaleCode=FC12&ID=r27
1&Order=runorder&feature=grouping> &ID=r271&Order=runorder&feature=grouping

 

I have an earlier 59 on a rotisserie, but I am not convinced it can be
restored economically.. The body is not very rusty, but I am discouraged by
the variable quality and high price of available parts.   Has anyone
compiled a list of good and bad values in parts available? 

 In an attempt to correct some obvious defects, I replaced the windshield
packing.. Actually I HAD it replaced, I usually do all work myself.  I
purchased the packing from Moss, and it looks good, but the (antique auto
compatible) glass shop delaminated the perfect glass installing it.  They
claimed the rubber gasket was very oversized.  The lower draft excluder was
a VB supplied piece and just does not fit in the slot-FAIL.  I replaced the
rubber around the side curtain  with a Moss part and I found the fit to be
just fine with a little silicone grease for lubrication.  I know the opinion
of the group would be to avoid these suppliers, but I was under a time
deadline.   I think most enthusiasts actually use these suppliers, and some
of the parts they sell are great, some are junk.  Prices are not necessarily
indicative of quality.  I will not use my past method of buying parts in
advance and be stuck with the junk. Would it be acceptable  to post parts
purchasing experiences here?

 

John Fisher

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 17:51:19 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:51:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>
References: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>

OR, you can take it out, and file the points.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> It may respond to being whacked  few times but one day it won't so I'd
> change it now.
>
>
> In a message dated 04/11/2012 20:19:21 Coordinated Universal Time,
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
>
> So, I  hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
> try
> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on  my list
> of
> things to do?  :)
>
> Robert
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Nov  5 18:56:52 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:56:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50986E64.70205@justbrits.com>

<< On 11/5/2012 6:51 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

OR, you can take it out, and file the points. >>

DAMN IT Brad, WHAT are you trying to do ??

"Suggest" that folks R.T.F.M., follow The K.I.S.S. Rule and/or check The Archives ? ! ? ! ? !

Ooops, or all three (3) ? ? ?

Ed

PS:  I left out (as I'm sure you did for same reason) trying Google ! ? ! ?
PPS:  <VBEG> + GREAT call ! ! ! ! !

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Nov  6 10:27:48 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:27:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP5142B252376FF6817A94EEB86B0@phx.gbl>

File them under what ?  'P' for points?  ;)

Thanks! That's a possibility, I guess, but, I guess it will depend on what I
find when I open it.

I've never had an issue with an SU before and therefore had no idea how hard
one hits it to free it up.  I figured that might be a good start to
diagnosing.  If it worked after the adequate hit, then I had some maintenance
to do on the pump.  Well, it didn't work, so it didn't help at all.  My
trouble light tells me that it is getting current, so it's not a broken wire.

I can now say that I've hit an SU fuel pump.  I can't say it was satisfying.
:)

Robert
I intend to live forever, or die trying.

On 2012-11-05, at 7:51 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> OR, you can take it out, and file the points.
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> It may respond to being whacked  few times but one day it won't so I'd
> change it now.
>
>
> In a message dated 04/11/2012 20:19:21 Coordinated Universal Time,
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
>
> So, I  hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
> try
> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on  my list
> of
> things to do?  :)
>
> Robert
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 11:39:09 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:39:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP5142B252376FF6817A94EEB86B0@phx.gbl>
References: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP5142B252376FF6817A94EEB86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r8FnN60i_aw_ghuo--jB+=9TktLsbRAnqDCWsMfnNqfow@mail.gmail.com>

I was told that you do not want to sand them, as the grit that falls off
the paper may get stuck in your points later, if you don't get every bit of
it out.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> File them under what ?  'P' for points?  ;)
>
> Thanks! That's a possibility, I guess, but, I guess it will depend on what
> I
> find when I open it.
>
> I've never had an issue with an SU before and therefore had no idea how
> hard
> one hits it to free it up.  I figured that might be a good start to
> diagnosing.  If it worked after the adequate hit, then I had some
> maintenance
> to do on the pump.  Well, it didn't work, so it didn't help at all.  My
> trouble light tells me that it is getting current, so it's not a broken
> wire.
>
> I can now say that I've hit an SU fuel pump.  I can't say it was
> satisfying.
> :)
>
> Robert
> I intend to live forever, or die trying.
>
> On 2012-11-05, at 7:51 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > OR, you can take it out, and file the points.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> > It may respond to being whacked  few times but one day it won't so I'd
> > change it now.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 04/11/2012 20:19:21 Coordinated Universal Time,
> > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
> >
> > So, I  hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed
> to
> > try
> > to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on  my
> list
> > of
> > things to do?  :)
> >
> > Robert
> > ------------------------
> >
> > spridgets at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> >
> >
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> >
> > http://tequilabrad.com/
> ------------------------
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Nov  6 13:28:33 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:28:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8FnN60i_aw_ghuo--jB+=9TktLsbRAnqDCWsMfnNqfow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP5142B252376FF6817A94EEB86B0@phx.gbl>
	<CABQj3r8FnN60i_aw_ghuo--jB+=9TktLsbRAnqDCWsMfnNqfow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP953EBFC93E6252C462BE3BB86B0@phx.gbl>

Thanks.  I do own a points file.

You're way ahead of me though.  I'm in the midst of winter preparations ( when
I should be finished ).  Since I had no idea how much energy to put into the
temporary cure (rapping it) that I've heard of so often, I was curious to
know. Driving it on and off the lift would have been easier than pushing it.
:)

Another extra task that I got added to my list:
I opened the engine compartment of the Fiat and found a pail full of pine
cones stuffed into every crevice.  It took me about a half of an hour to dig
them out.  :(. Hopefully all wires are intact.


On 2012-11-06, at 1:39 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was told that you do not want to sand them, as the grit that falls off the
paper may get stuck in your points later, if you don't get every bit of it
out.
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Robert Duquette
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> File them under what ?  'P' for points?  ;)
>
> Thanks! That's a possibility, I guess, but, I guess it will depend on what
I
> find when I open it.
>
> I've never had an issue with an SU before and therefore had no idea how
hard
> one hits it to free it up.  I figured that might be a good start to
> diagnosing.  If it worked after the adequate hit, then I had some
maintenance
> to do on the pump.  Well, it didn't work, so it didn't help at all.  My
> trouble light tells me that it is getting current, so it's not a broken
wire.
>
> I can now say that I've hit an SU fuel pump.  I can't say it was
satisfying.
> :)
>
> Robert
> I intend to live forever, or die trying.
>
> On 2012-11-05, at 7:51 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > OR, you can take it out, and file the points.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> > It may respond to being whacked  few times but one day it won't so I'd
> > change it now.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 04/11/2012 20:19:21 Coordinated Universal Time,
> > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
> >
> > So, I  hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed
to
> > try
> > to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on  my
list
> > of
> > things to do?  :)
> >
> > Robert
> > ------------------------
> >
> > spridgets at autox.team.net
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation: $12.75
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> >
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> >
> > http://tequilabrad.com/
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>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Nov  6 13:16:13 2012
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:16:13 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8FnN60i_aw_ghuo--jB+=9TktLsbRAnqDCWsMfnNqfow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCBEB00D.20982%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

What about a contact file and some Dn5?

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Nov  6 14:27:03 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:27:03 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
Message-ID: <20121106.142703.3446.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>

So so what I did when I needed to start my '58 after I bought it, whip out
your point file (you DID hang onto it, didn't you?) and sweep it through ~3
times and you should be good to go!
It worked on my dizzy after 20 years of sitting, so it should work on your
fuel pump after sitting just a little while (relatively speaking).


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016


Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:39:09 -0600


I was told that you do not want to sand them, as the grit that falls off
the paper may get stuck in your points later, if you don't get every bit of
it out.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Nov  6 17:30:20 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:30:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <CALKVWq8Bjsjx7pf4L_FucPztBADeoO1OfFq25diU5FEsL0pKpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <122cd.2afcbe87.3dc95bb4@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r8G=T8Z7TNZ0PxTBChcGT4nP+SaaX6Rar+nx-sUAcREaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP5142B252376FF6817A94EEB86B0@phx.gbl>
	<CABQj3r8FnN60i_aw_ghuo--jB+=9TktLsbRAnqDCWsMfnNqfow@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP953EBFC93E6252C462BE3BB86B0@phx.gbl>
	<CALKVWq8Bjsjx7pf4L_FucPztBADeoO1OfFq25diU5FEsL0pKpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP2527CB2A961CE0CCE4D772B86A0@phx.gbl>

Thankfully not!  :)

Robert

On 2012-11-06, at 3:58 PM, brian <daredelvis at gmail.com> wrote:

> At least you probably don't have cholla.
>
> Brian
>
> On Nov 6, 2012 2:52 PM, "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Thanks.  I do own a points file.
>
> You're way ahead of me though.  I'm in the midst of winter preparations (
when
> I should be finished ).  Since I had no idea how much energy to put into
the
> temporary cure (rapping it) that I've heard of so often, I was curious to
> know. Driving it on and off the lift would have been easier than pushing
it.
> :)
>
> Another extra task that I got added to my list:
> I opened the engine compartment of the Fiat and found a pail full of pine
> cones stuffed into every crevice.  It took me about a half of an hour to
dig
> them out.  :(. Hopefully all wires are intact.
>
>
> On 2012-11-06, at 1:39 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was told that you do not want to sand them, as the grit that falls off
the
> paper may get stuck in your points later, if you don't get every bit of it
> out.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Robert Duquette
> <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > File them under what ?  'P' for points?  ;)
> >
> > Thanks! That's a possibility, I guess, but, I guess it will depend on
what
> I
> > find when I open it.
> >
> > I've never had an issue with an SU before and therefore had no idea how
> hard
> > one hits it to free it up.  I figured that might be a good start to
> > diagnosing.  If it worked after the adequate hit, then I had some
> maintenance
> > to do on the pump.  Well, it didn't work, so it didn't help at all.  My
> > trouble light tells me that it is getting current, so it's not a broken
> wire.
> >
> > I can now say that I've hit an SU fuel pump.  I can't say it was
> satisfying.
> > :)
> >
> > Robert
> > I intend to live forever, or die trying.
> >
> > On 2012-11-05, at 7:51 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > OR, you can take it out, and file the points.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> > > It may respond to being whacked  few times but one day it won't so I'd
> > > change it now.
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 04/11/2012 20:19:21 Coordinated Universal Time,
> > > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
> > >
> > > So, I  hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed
> to
> > > try
> > > to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on  my
> list
> > > of
> > > things to do?  :)
> > >
> > > Robert
> > > ------------------------

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Nov  7 06:53:41 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:53:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <20121106.142703.3446.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
References: <20121106.142703.3446.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP678D57881F0017C0B2DF65B86A0@phx.gbl>

Yes.  I even know where it is.  :)

I drove the Midget in July (perhaps even as late as late August) and drove it
on to the hoist.

Robert
Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.

On 2012-11-06, at 4:27 PM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> So so what I did when I needed to start my '58 after I bought it, whip out
> your point file (you DID hang onto it, didn't you?) and sweep it through ~3
> times and you should be good to go!
> It worked on my dizzy after 20 years of sitting, so it should work on your
> fuel pump after sitting just a little while (relatively speaking).
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> AN5L8016
>
>
> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:39:09 -0600
>
>
> I was told that you do not want to sand them, as the grit that falls off
> the paper may get stuck in your points later, if you don't get every bit of
> it out.
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>
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Nov  7 08:41:22 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:41:22 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rollbar installation
Message-ID: <20121107.084122.20209.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

I found a really nice rollbar for the MKII, with cross braces and all, it's
set up to mount just inside of the radius of the rear wheel wells behind the
seats (on top of the frame box). I've never been into the frame area here, is
there anything that I need to be aware of (aside from putting a hole through
the fuel line), like double walls, strange supports that interfere with
access, etc?
It's winter, time to tear it down, fix the trans, install the rollbar, find
out what I did to the speedo drive or cable, and reinstall everything-no
biggie !?


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016
____________________________________________________________
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Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Nov  7 09:23:20 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:23:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Rollbar installation
In-Reply-To: <20121107.084122.20209.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
References: <20121107.084122.20209.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <0F2FD3373A1A468298A0695F3CF4840B@spider>

Nothing hidden you haven't already mentioned. Be sure to have some steel
plates underneath each mounting point so the bolts are pulling on a broader
area.  Bill in Oregon
================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 7:41 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Rollbar installation

I found a really nice rollbar for the MKII, with cross braces and all, it's
set up to mount just inside of the radius of the rear wheel wells behind the
seats (on top of the frame box). I've never been into the frame area here,
is there anything that I need to be aware of (aside from putting a hole
through the fuel line), like double walls, strange supports that interfere
with access, etc?

It's winter, time to tear it down, fix the trans, install the rollbar, find
out what I did to the speedo drive or cable, and reinstall everything-no
biggie !?


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016
____________________________________________________________
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  7 09:42:32 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1)
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 11:42:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rollbar installation
Message-ID: <uuee7vr95bhojmc0844aved2.1352306552798@email.android.com>

I had no issues installing mine a few years ago. I seem to remember needing to buy two different lengths of bolts to secure it with. Don't remember if that was just because the rearward tubes have less to clear or what.B 

I had no issues with fuel lines in the way, but it's way easier to check it twice before drilling than to patch up leaky lines afterward. B Just go ahead and put at least the rear of the car on stands & remove the wheels before you start.B 

I also used the mounting bolts to secure the 4 point belts. No need for 5 point because bar interference with seatback precludes leaning the seat back far enough to submarine out from under the belts anyway.

It's a fun & easy project. Enjoy!

B - David Booker

>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Nov  7 10:53:29 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:53:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rollbar installation
Message-ID: <1f771.4d456151.3dcbfa19@aol.com>

Putting a hole through a tyre.
 
 
In a message dated 07/11/2012 16:15:06 Coordinated Universal Time,  
haynes386 at netzero.net writes:

I found  a really nice rollbar for the MKII, with cross braces and all, it's
set up  to mount just inside of the radius of the rear wheel wells behind 
the
seats  (on top of the frame box). I've never been into the frame area here, 
 is
there anything that I need to be aware of (aside from putting a hole  
through
the fuel line), like double walls, strange supports that interfere  with
access, etc?
It's winter, time to tear it down, fix the trans,  install the rollbar, find
out what I did to the speedo drive or cable, and  reinstall everything-no
biggie !?


Mark Haynes
It only goes  one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  7 10:59:40 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:59:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rollbar installation
In-Reply-To: <0F2FD3373A1A468298A0695F3CF4840B@spider>
References: <20121107.084122.20209.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
	<0F2FD3373A1A468298A0695F3CF4840B@spider>
Message-ID: <1352311180.10213.YahooMailNeo@web141405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Good point, Bill. I forgot about the steel plates I made and used under each
of the four 4-bolt mounting points on my bar. A definite must do if you want
it for anything more than looks!  And don't forget to take the additional
thickness of the plates into account when buying your bolts, nuts, washers,
lock washers.
 
 - David


From: "corvallis at peoplepc.com"
<corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday,
November 7, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rollbar installation
Nothing hidden you haven't already mentioned. Be sure to have some steel
plates underneath each mounting point so the bolts are pulling on a broader
area.  Bill in Oregon
================================
-----Original
Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Sent:
Wednesday, November 07, 2012 7:41 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject:
[Spridgets] Rollbar installation

I found a really nice rollbar for the MKII,
with cross braces and all, it's
set up to mount just inside of the radius of
the rear wheel wells behind the
seats (on top of the frame box). I've never
been into the frame area here,
is there anything that I need to be aware of
(aside from putting a hole
through the fuel line), like double walls, strange
supports that interfere
with access, etc?

It's winter, time to tear it down,
fix the trans, install the rollbar, find
out what I did to the speedo drive or
cable, and reinstall everything-no
biggie !?


Mark Haynes
It only goes one
way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016
____________________________________________________________
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Looks 25
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Nov  8 16:54:10 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:54:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP9451CB38080071B04DF8CBB8690@phx.gbl>

Joy!

I found the Sprite's SU fuel pump and it didn't work either.  :). (ran when
parked).  So, I practiced on it.  The points were "really" bad, but I shined
up and smoothed out the high parts with a file.  Did the reverse of dissing,
provided power and thunka-thunka-thunka.

Thank you to all who helped, both on and off list.

Tomorrow perhaps I can get the Midget's done.

Now, I'm off to see ZZ Top.

On 2012-11-04, at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and I
did
> not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that in
> itself is no fun!
>
> So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
try
> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list
of
> things to do?  :)
>
> Robert
> ------------------------
>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Nov  8 17:10:29 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu,  8 Nov 2012 17:10:29 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Life is a breeze!
Message-ID: <20121109001029.4E2A72E01D@bradakis.com>

Or, sometimes, strong gusty winds preceding a storm front.  The kind
of winds that break off tree branches.  Tree branches that hit power
lines, or perhaps phone lines, like the one that connects Team.Net
to the world.

Back on the air, I apologise for the service outage.

mjb.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Nov  8 18:10:55 2012
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:10:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] BCF
Message-ID: <1279468514.20121108171055@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  Anyone have any information on why the BCF is down, or when it is
  expected to be back up?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  God heals and the doctor takes the fee. 

From k8djc at zoominternet.net  Thu Nov  8 22:24:11 2012
From: k8djc at zoominternet.net (Nelson Wittstock)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 05:24:11 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] BCF
References: <1279468514.20121108171055@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <2A2C8369A50F42B597C5086CCB831850@hamshack>

I keep checking the site but I've been wondering if someone would post the 
answer here.  I've got no idea what is happening.  Maybe it has something to 
do with the change Basil was talking about doing.

Nelson 

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Nov  9 01:14:42 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:14:42 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
References: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP9451CB38080071B04DF8CBB8690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3E3D937A4F764206977633A9AA6718F2@user8634b3d69b>

Not as I thought, but another lease of life....
Well done


Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?


> Joy!
>
> I found the Sprite's SU fuel pump and it didn't work either.  :). (ran 
> when
> parked).  So, I practiced on it.  The points were "really" bad, but I 
> shined
> up and smoothed out the high parts with a file.  Did the reverse of 
> dissing,
> provided power and thunka-thunka-thunka.
>
> Thank you to all who helped, both on and off list.
>
> Tomorrow perhaps I can get the Midget's done.
>
> Now, I'm off to see ZZ Top.
>
> On 2012-11-04, at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and 
>> I
> did
>> not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that 
>> in
>> itself is no fun!
>>
>> So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
> try
>> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list
> of
>> things to do?  :)
>>
>> Robert
>> ------------------------
>>
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  9 05:09:03 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:09:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Bond Cars
Message-ID: <1352462943.60705.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Another good BBC show, set aside an hour for this one:  

 Top Gear - 50 Years
of Bond Cars - Car Videos on StreetFire


Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  9 05:11:22 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:11:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] BCF
In-Reply-To: <2A2C8369A50F42B597C5086CCB831850@hamshack>
References: <1279468514.20121108171055@pacifier.com>
	<2A2C8369A50F42B597C5086CCB831850@hamshack>
Message-ID: <1352463082.24572.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Basil uses Lucas servers.



 
Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
Follow My
Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
________________________________
 From: Nelson Wittstock
<k8djc at zoominternet.net>
To: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>;
spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 12:24 AM
Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] BCF
 
I keep checking the site but I've been wondering if someone
would post the answer here.  I've got no idea what is happening.  Maybe it has
something to do with the change Basil was talking about doing.

Nelson
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  9 07:51:07 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 06:51:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] 50 Years of Bond Cars
In-Reply-To: <1352462943.60705.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1352462943.60705.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1352472667.18469.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Link would be helpful: 
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-50-years-of-bond-cars_2403449.htm
 
Rick


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Follow My Nasty Boy Build:
http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo


________________________________
 From:
HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>;
Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 7:09
AM
Subject: [Healeys] 50 Years of Bond Cars
 
Another good BBC show, set aside
an hour for this one:  

Top Gear - 50 Years
of Bond Cars - Car Videos on
StreetFire

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov  9 19:42:49 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:42:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
In-Reply-To: <3E3D937A4F764206977633A9AA6718F2@user8634b3d69b>
References: <BLU0-SMTP2034F9263EF31A2743A166B8650@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP9451CB38080071B04DF8CBB8690@phx.gbl>
	<3E3D937A4F764206977633A9AA6718F2@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP583970AABC8968A6108F45B86F0@phx.gbl>

Well, my second shot didn't go so well.  The Midget's pump points were really
really really bad.  I did get it to klunk multiple times ... Followed by a
single Klunk.

So, for now, I'll push it around and I have another winter project ( like I
need more projects! :)).

Robert
Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.

On 2012-11-09, at 3:14 AM, GUY DAY <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Not as I thought, but another lease of life....
> Well done
>
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette"
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] So, how hard does one whack it?
>
>
>> Joy!
>>
>> I found the Sprite's SU fuel pump and it didn't work either.  :). (ran
when
>> parked).  So, I practiced on it.  The points were "really" bad, but I
shined
>> up and smoothed out the high parts with a file.  Did the reverse of
dissing,
>> provided power and thunka-thunka-thunka.
>>
>> Thank you to all who helped, both on and off list.
>>
>> Tomorrow perhaps I can get the Midget's done.
>>
>> Now, I'm off to see ZZ Top.
>>
>> On 2012-11-04, at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No, I haven't been hijacked.  I attempted to start Miss Marple today and
I
>> did
>>> not get that familiar SU fuel pump ticking.  Turns over great, but that
in
>>> itself is no fun!
>>>
>>> So, I hit it moderately hard several times but, no joy.  Am I supposed to
>> try
>>> to hit it out of the ballpark?  Or should I just put a rebuild on my list
>> of
>>> things to do?  :)
>>>
>>> Robert
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 19:00:34 2012
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:00:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAH4GO3-0RvO5w6nuFqoZgGJpGOjsWTe=W8Mt=jpKVuQNA@mail.gmail.com>

Happy Birthday, Ed.
Herb

From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Nov 11 01:43:53 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:43:53 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
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Message-ID: <159B3E90DEE448FEB07DE29E65EE70A0@user8634b3d69b>

He has birthdays!!

I'll join with Herb's comments and repeat the Happy Birthday, Ed. #

Guy R Day

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Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 2:00 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] BD


> Happy Birthday, Ed.
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Nov 11 09:26:20 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:26:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
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Ditto!

Lester


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> Happy Birthday, Ed.
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 11 10:26:23 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:26:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
In-Reply-To: <04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net>
References: <CAEFJhAH4GO3-0RvO5w6nuFqoZgGJpGOjsWTe=W8Mt=jpKVuQNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1352654783.57536.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Living proof that the good die young <VBG>

Happy B'day Ed, have a Miller Lite for me.

ME
To: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> 
Cc: Spridgeteers <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BD
 
Ditto!

Lester


On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:00 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

> Happy Birthday, Ed.
> Herb
> ------------------------

From cartman at rcn.com  Sun Nov 11 10:49:19 2012
From: cartman at rcn.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:49:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] One week until the USGP in Austin!
Message-ID: <CAJX-WcWac9FOrq7aj3iPvRJ5rgHvdd6nquhE-zcKdb4tQiippg@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy everyone,

Next Sunday will be the inaugural Formula 1 race at the brand new Circuit
of the Americas track in Austin.  I'm going to be there all three days, and
can't wait.  Just curious if anyone else from the list is planning on
attending.

Greg Gowins
Driftwood, TX

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Nov 11 11:09:15 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:09:15 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] One week until the USGP in Austin!
In-Reply-To: <CAJX-WcWac9FOrq7aj3iPvRJ5rgHvdd6nquhE-zcKdb4tQiippg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJX-WcWac9FOrq7aj3iPvRJ5rgHvdd6nquhE-zcKdb4tQiippg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8224B792AE184FAEB1913B28380616CD@spider>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Grand_Prix

================================================
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:49 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] One week until the USGP in Austin!

Howdy everyone,

Next Sunday will be the inaugural Formula 1 race at the brand new Circuit
of the Americas track in Austin.  I'm going to be there all three days, and
can't wait.  Just curious if anyone else from the list is planning on
attending.

Greg Gowins
Driftwood, TX
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 11 15:31:03 2012
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:31:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] One week until the USGP in Austin!
In-Reply-To: <CAJX-WcWac9FOrq7aj3iPvRJ5rgHvdd6nquhE-zcKdb4tQiippg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJX-WcWac9FOrq7aj3iPvRJ5rgHvdd6nquhE-zcKdb4tQiippg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAGm4UDe_B8MzSLOTdvhAJNhBzHGkWUHVd=26_poz27bkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Only in my dreams.  Hope it's televised.
Brad, you going?
Herb

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Greg Gowins <cartman at rcn.com> wrote:

> Howdy everyone,
>
> Next Sunday will be the inaugural Formula 1 race at the brand new Circuit
> of the Americas track in Austin.  I'm going to be there all three days, and
> can't wait.  Just curious if anyone else from the list is planning on
> attending.
>
> Greg Gowins
> Driftwood, TX

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Nov 11 16:38:51 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:38:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] One week until the USGP in Austin!
In-Reply-To: <CAEFJhAGm4UDe_B8MzSLOTdvhAJNhBzHGkWUHVd=26_poz27bkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJX-WcWac9FOrq7aj3iPvRJ5rgHvdd6nquhE-zcKdb4tQiippg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFJhAGm4UDe_B8MzSLOTdvhAJNhBzHGkWUHVd=26_poz27bkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r-LqbAA+Ud221TYqopMz7MzHRpt5as5UPznDDVU3EVUkg@mail.gmail.com>

I won't be going, It sounds cool, but I had an unexpected expense of a
grand come up today. Sometimes ya gotta choose one vice, over another. LOL


On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:31 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Only in my dreams.  Hope it's televised.
> Brad, you going?
> Herb
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Greg Gowins <cartman at rcn.com> wrote:
>
> > Howdy everyone,
> >
> > Next Sunday will be the inaugural Formula 1 race at the brand new Circuit
> > of the Americas track in Austin.  I'm going to be there all three days,
> and
> > can't wait.  Just curious if anyone else from the list is planning on
> > attending.
> >
> > Greg Gowins
> > Driftwood, TX
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Nov 11 19:48:16 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:48:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
In-Reply-To: <04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net>
References: <CAEFJhAH4GO3-0RvO5w6nuFqoZgGJpGOjsWTe=W8Mt=jpKVuQNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48351.173.111.86.148.1352688496.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

ED!!  Is your birth date B.D. or A.D.???  (Before Dirt or After
Dirt)  Being just a youngster myself my inquiring mind wants to
know!  ;-)   Happy Birthday!

Dave W. 
:-)




> Ditto!
> 
>
Lester
> 
> 
> On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:00 PM, WFO
Herb wrote:
> 
>> Happy Birthday, Ed.
>>
Herb

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 17:31:58 2012
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:31:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] One week until the USGP in Austin!
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r-LqbAA+Ud221TYqopMz7MzHRpt5as5UPznDDVU3EVUkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJX-WcWac9FOrq7aj3iPvRJ5rgHvdd6nquhE-zcKdb4tQiippg@mail.gmail.com>
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Yeah, guns or cars...tough call.
Herb

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I won't be going, It sounds cool, but I had an unexpected expense of a
> grand come up today. Sometimes ya gotta choose one vice, over another. LOL
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:31 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Only in my dreams.  Hope it's televised.
>> Brad, you going?
>> Herb

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Nov 12 18:59:47 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:59:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades
Message-ID: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

OK, metallurgists.  I'm looking at a set of jack stands and the pins
are made of #20 steel.  What does that mean?  I've determined
it's probably a China grading but haven't been able to find anything (that
I could understand).  How does the numbering system show strength,
etc.?

Just curious,
Dave W.

From mdmyersct at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 19:15:21 2012
From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (Michael Myers)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:15:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades
In-Reply-To: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <CAL3QmYoCckH=OMD1_UNcYOjTXDkdT7qQDvY9WGibSXpETRR3=A@mail.gmail.com>

China structural steel 20# corresponds to ASTM or SAE 1020 which would be a
plain carbon steel with 0.20% carbon. Hot rolled yield strength around
29000 psi, tensile around 55000 psi.

Mike Myers


On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:59 PM, <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> OK, metallurgists.  I'm looking at a set of jack stands and the pins
> are made of #20 steel.  What does that mean?  I've determined
> it's probably a China grading but haven't been able to find anything (that
> I could understand).  How does the numbering system show strength,
> etc.?
>
> Just curious,
> Dave W.
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Nov 12 19:34:03 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:34:03 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades
In-Reply-To: <CAL3QmYoCckH=OMD1_UNcYOjTXDkdT7qQDvY9WGibSXpETRR3=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<CAL3QmYoCckH=OMD1_UNcYOjTXDkdT7qQDvY9WGibSXpETRR3=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41726.173.111.83.155.1352774043.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Thanks Mike that helped.  Just what I was looking for.
Dave

> China structural steel 20# corresponds to ASTM or SAE 1020
which would be
> a
> plain carbon steel with 0.20% carbon.
Hot rolled yield strength around
> 29000 psi, tensile around 55000
psi.
> 
> Mike Myers
> 
> 
> On
Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:59 PM, <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
> 
>> OK, metallurgists.  I'm looking at a set of jack stands and the
pins
>> are made of #20 steel.  What does that mean?  I've
determined
>> it's probably a China grading but haven't been
able to find anything
>> (that
>> I could
understand).  How does the numbering system show strength,
>>
etc.?
>>
>> Just curious,
>> Dave W.
>> ------------------------
>>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 22:17:06 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:17:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades
In-Reply-To: <41726.173.111.83.155.1352774043.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<CAL3QmYoCckH=OMD1_UNcYOjTXDkdT7qQDvY9WGibSXpETRR3=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<41726.173.111.83.155.1352774043.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
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Channeling Frank here.....   20# would be the amount of dung used in
forging....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM, <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Thanks Mike that helped.  Just what I was looking for.
> Dave
>
> > China structural steel 20# corresponds to ASTM or SAE 1020
> which would be
> > a
> > plain carbon steel with 0.20% carbon.
> Hot rolled yield strength around
> > 29000 psi, tensile around 55000
> psi.
> >
> > Mike Myers
> >
> >
> > On
> Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:59 PM, <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
> >
> >> OK, metallurgists.  I'm looking at a set of jack stands and the
> pins
> >> are made of #20 steel.  What does that mean?  I've
> determined
> >> it's probably a China grading but haven't been
> able to find anything
> >> (that
> >> I could
> understand).  How does the numbering system show strength,
> >>
> etc.?
> >>
> >> Just curious,
> >> Dave W.
> >> ------------------------
> >>
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 13 11:49:20 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:49:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Link for the Diff video anybody?
Message-ID: <1352832560.84845.YahooMailNeo@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Two or three months ago, somebody posted a link to a wonderful old B&W video
explaining how a diff works. I thought I put the link or the file in a safe
place so I could show Kyle and some other folks. As these things tend to
happen (at least to me) I seem to have lost it despite my best efforts not to.
 
I also apparently forgot who posted it, because I accosted Jim Johnson for
it, only to find that he was not the one. 
 
So anyway, could one of you fine
Spridgeteers out there repost that video? If you didn't see it when first
posted, you really should watch it. They broke it down to a level that even I
understood, using something like a TinkerToy set to illustrate it. Very cool.
 
Thanks much,
David Booker
Long Island

From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Tue Nov 13 12:01:23 2012
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:01:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Link for the Diff video anybody?
In-Reply-To: <1352832560.84845.YahooMailNeo@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1352832560.84845.YahooMailNeo@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0bf201cdc1d1$46598550$d30c8ff0$@austin.rr.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4JhruinbWc 
I believe this is what you want. 
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:49 PM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Link for the Diff video anybody?

Two or three months ago, somebody posted a link to a wonderful old B&W video
explaining how a diff works. I thought I put the link or the file in a safe
place so I could show Kyle and some other folks. As these things tend to
happen (at least to me) I seem to have lost it despite my best efforts not
to.
 
I also apparently forgot who posted it, because I accosted Jim Johnson for
it, only to find that he was not the one. 
 
So anyway, could one of you fine
Spridgeteers out there repost that video? If you didn't see it when first
posted, you really should watch it. They broke it down to a level that even
I understood, using something like a TinkerToy set to illustrate it. Very
cool.
 
Thanks much,
David Booker
Long Island
------------------------

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Nov 13 12:38:17 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:38:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
In-Reply-To: <1352654783.57536.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAEFJhAH4GO3-0RvO5w6nuFqoZgGJpGOjsWTe=W8Mt=jpKVuQNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net>
	<1352654783.57536.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50A2A1A9.8030306@justbrits.com>

<< On 11/11/2012 11:26 AM, HealeyRick wrote:

Happy B'day Ed, have a Miller Lite for me. >>

Are youse guys talking about me (I think 'cause of the Lite reference<G>) ??

I appreciate the thought but the 10th was NOT my B'day ! ? ! ? ! ?

Ed

PS:  Looks like WFO has done it AGAIN - LOL ! ! !

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Nov 13 13:00:11 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:00:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades
In-Reply-To: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1352836728.30670.spridgets@autox.team.net>

When I was teaching at the U I purchased 2 muffler type jack stands 
to test to failure. We had a 120,000 universal test machine (big 
press).to test them on. The jacks were made of muffler tubing (that 
style) with the base circumference cut into thirds and then splayed 
out to make the three feet or legs of the jack. Those legs were held 
together at the very bottom by metal straps welded between legs. The 
upper part of the base had holes at various heights for adjustments. 
The second part that slides inside the base pipe was just a pipe with 
holes for the adjustment and an upper most saddle onto which the axle sits.

We loaded the jack up to 6000lbs - the rated capacity - with no 
problem. We kept going until failure. I wish I remembered all the 
numbers, but that was a long time ago. What I do remember is that the 
jack legs failed first - they buckled. However there was plenty of 
warning that the jack was being crushed and the jack still was 
holding an appreciable load. Now remember that there was a slow 
steady load applied - no impact and the load was applied 
perpendicular to the support surface. No crazy offset loading or 
impact loads. All in all the jacks performed within the specs and 
well beyond. Now don't be silly and use muffler pipe jacks to support 
your D9 dozer just because they can carry more than 6000 lbs. OK? And 
don't even think of using a concrete block!!


At 08:59 PM 11/12/2012, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:
>OK, metallurgists.  I'm looking at a set of jack stands and the pins
>are made of #20 steel.  What does that mean?  I've determined
>it's probably a China grading but haven't been able to find anything (that
>I could understand).  How does the numbering system show strength,
>etc.?
>
>Just curious,
>Dave W.
>------------------------
>
>spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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Tim Collins

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 13 14:23:26 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:23:26 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121113200345.652952D064D@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <59D8824DCAF942F7BFCEE2699866F89C@user8634b3d69b>

So the concrete block chiselled out in the 3 legged shape of the 'muffler' 
jack whose design exceeds the specs isn't much good then?


Darwin Award Finalist



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
To: <dwoerpel at wi.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades


> When I was teaching at the U I purchased 2 muffler type jack stands
> to test to failure. We had a 120,000 universal test machine (big
> press).to test them on. The jacks were made of muffler tubing (that
> style) with the base circumference cut into thirds and then splayed
> out to make the three feet or legs of the jack. Those legs were held
> together at the very bottom by metal straps welded between legs. The
> upper part of the base had holes at various heights for adjustments.
> The second part that slides inside the base pipe was just a pipe with
> holes for the adjustment and an upper most saddle onto which the axle 
> sits.
>
> We loaded the jack up to 6000lbs - the rated capacity - with no
> problem. We kept going until failure. I wish I remembered all the
> numbers, but that was a long time ago. What I do remember is that the
> jack legs failed first - they buckled. However there was plenty of
> warning that the jack was being crushed and the jack still was
> holding an appreciable load. Now remember that there was a slow
> steady load applied - no impact and the load was applied
> perpendicular to the support surface. No crazy offset loading or
> impact loads. All in all the jacks performed within the specs and
> well beyond. Now don't be silly and use muffler pipe jacks to support
> your D9 dozer just because they can carry more than 6000 lbs. OK? And
> don't even think of using a concrete block!!
>
>
> At 08:59 PM 11/12/2012, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:
>>OK, metallurgists.  I'm looking at a set of jack stands and the pins
>>are made of #20 steel.  What does that mean?  I've determined
>>it's probably a China grading but haven't been able to find anything (that
>>I could understand).  How does the numbering system show strength,
>>etc.?
>>
>>Just curious,
>>Dave W.
>>------------------------
>>
>>spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>
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>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/thcollin at mtu.edu
>
> Tim Collins
> ------------------------
>
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From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 13 14:20:02 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:20:02 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
References: <CAEFJhAH4GO3-0RvO5w6nuFqoZgGJpGOjsWTe=W8Mt=jpKVuQNA@mail.gmail.com><04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net><1352654783.57536.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<50A2A1A9.8030306@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4B0B33B8B6A2418B8AA5D5E56B95A2DD@user8634b3d69b>

OK then Ed .... when do you have the celebration of your opening your eyes 
to light day?
(I was going to say creation date but knowing you and the rest of the lads 
on this forum....)

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "" Just Brits " Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BD


> << On 11/11/2012 11:26 AM, HealeyRick wrote:
>
> Happy B'day Ed, have a Miller Lite for me. >>
>
> Are youse guys talking about me (I think 'cause of the Lite reference<G>) 
> ??
>
> I appreciate the thought but the 10th was NOT my B'day ! ? ! ? ! ?
>
> Ed
>
> PS:  Looks like WFO has done it AGAIN - LOL ! ! !
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov 13 14:29:21 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:29:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
In-Reply-To: <4B0B33B8B6A2418B8AA5D5E56B95A2DD@user8634b3d69b>
References: <CAEFJhAH4GO3-0RvO5w6nuFqoZgGJpGOjsWTe=W8Mt=jpKVuQNA@mail.gmail.com><04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net><1352654783.57536.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<50A2A1A9.8030306@justbrits.com>
	<4B0B33B8B6A2418B8AA5D5E56B95A2DD@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <50A2BBB1.1090406@bradakis.com>

I want to see his BMIHT certificate!

mjb.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Nov 13 15:47:12 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:47:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Link for the Diff video anybody?
Message-ID: <3b4bd.2fb6511c.3dd427f0@aol.com>

And if you download a copy of 'Freemake' you can then 'grab' the youtube  
clip and save it to your PC as a WMV file or an MP4 file to play on your  
phone!
 
In a message dated 13/11/2012 19:48:25 Coordinated Universal Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

Two or  three months ago, somebody posted a link to a wonderful old B&W  
video
explaining how a diff works. I thought I put the link or the file in  a safe
place so I could show Kyle and some other folks. As these things  tend to
happen (at least to me) I seem to have lost it despite my best  efforts not 
to.

I also apparently forgot who posted it, because I  accosted Jim Johnson for
it, only to find that he was not the one.  

So anyway, could one of you fine
Spridgeteers out there repost that  video? If you didn't see it when first
posted, you really should watch it.  They broke it down to a level that 
even I
understood, using something like  a TinkerToy set to illustrate it. Very 
cool.

Thanks much,
David  Booker
Long Island

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 13 17:14:28 2012
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:14:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Project, Wheels, Pistons and more for sale
Message-ID: <C5C4EB36F5D34FA0A6D20D89E1485B0E@HomePC>

Increasing health problems have finally convinced me that there is no
possibility that I will ever get my Bugeye project finished.  Therefore, it
and a lot of extra parts, are up for sale.


I have two sets of brand new wheels correct for Spridgets: one Minators and
one Panasports.  The Minators are 13 X 5.5 and the Panasports are 13 X 5.

Moss has 13 X 5 Minators listed at $137.95 ea, or $551.80 for a set of 4 on
their website.  Not sure if that price is right, since my latest catalog from
them, the Fall/Winter catalog of 2009, listed them at $164.95 ea. or $659.80
for 4.  Whatever, Ibd be happy with $375 OBO for the set.

Moss has the Panasports listed at $274.95 ea or $1,099.80 for 4.  $750 OBO
would get them.  These are really nice, really light wheels.  If I wasnbt
selling my project, Ibd keep these.


Also, have a set of 6 (yes, 6) Venolia forged pistons with wrist pins and an
incomplete set of rings for them.  These are for a 1275 +30.  5cc dish and
1.309 inch compression height.  Best offer.


And my Bugeye project.  It is completely taken down to the metal. WST is
removing all of the rusted metal and welding in new panels.  He said he
expects to be done around Thanksgiving -- give or take a week or two.  This
project is probably 80% to 90% complete.  I have three 1275bs to go with it;
a Datsun 5-speed; a disk brake set-up, lots of new stuff like carpet and seat
covers, etc.  Ibd have to tear my garage apart to list all of the stuff I
have and can do so for anybody who is seriously interested.  I canbt set a
price until I inventory what I have, but know that I am not looking to get
rich off of it. Ibm willing to let it go at a more than fair price.  I just
need it gone while I can still help get it out of here.  If you are
interested, contact me and webll figure it out.  Ibd prefer this stuff go
to members of one of these lists rather than putting it all on eBay. Speak
up!


I also have a 1979 Limited Edition MGB and a couple of aluminum V8s with some
hi-po parts that Ibll probably need to sell, too -- if there are any hot
rodders in the crowd.


All located in Oshkosh, WI about 80 miles north of Milwaukee or 150 miles
north of Chicago.


Larry Daniels

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 13 18:12:01 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:12:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Project, Wheels, Pistons and more for  sale
In-Reply-To: <C5C4EB36F5D34FA0A6D20D89E1485B0E@HomePC>
References: <C5C4EB36F5D34FA0A6D20D89E1485B0E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4C3312E77E964211B885C3AF50757A5B@blackbox2>

Larry I am sad to hear of your increasing health problems.
I hope things turn to the better.  If there is something we can do to help
let us know.

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 00:11:31 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:11:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Sender testing
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFaJaCN+QuBn1wcVk08pnCqrQymdSxsRSSZWQkTmL7rtuA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

I've been watching emails cross the list, and I already know some of
you from other mailing lists/forums. For those I've not met before,
Hi!

I'm presently working on a '69 Austin Healey sprite. Right now I'm
finishing up the fuel system restoration. I want to test the sending
unit that came on the car. What's the Empty - Full range I should be
testing for with my meter?

Thanks in advance!
Jody

-- 
http://www.theymightberacing.com/

1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1969 Austin Healey Sprite
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire                       1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Nov 14 08:40:45 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:40:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
In-Reply-To: <4B0B33B8B6A2418B8AA5D5E56B95A2DD@user8634b3d69b>
References: <CAEFJhAH4GO3-0RvO5w6nuFqoZgGJpGOjsWTe=W8Mt=jpKVuQNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<04847F27-5615-4F97-9211-B253D81E6254@comcast.net>
	<1352654783.57536.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<50A2A1A9.8030306@justbrits.com>
	<4B0B33B8B6A2418B8AA5D5E56B95A2DD@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP22EAA0651AE430BED32DD4B8530@phx.gbl>

You do know that he's just going to tell you to search the archives, right?
;)

Robert

On 2012-11-13, at 4:20 PM, GUY DAY <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> OK then Ed .... when do you have the celebration of your opening your eyes
to light day?
> (I was going to say creation date but knowing you and the rest of the lads
on this forum....)
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "" Just Brits " Shop"
<shop at justbrits.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BD
>
>
>> << On 11/11/2012 11:26 AM, HealeyRick wrote:
>>
>> Happy B'day Ed, have a Miller Lite for me. >>
>>
>> Are youse guys talking about me (I think 'cause of the Lite reference<G>)
??
>>
>> I appreciate the thought but the 10th was NOT my B'day ! ? ! ? ! ?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> PS:  Looks like WFO has done it AGAIN - LOL ! ! !
>> ------------------------

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 14 09:04:14 2012
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:04:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Project, Wheels, Pistons and more for  sale
In-Reply-To: <4C3312E77E964211B885C3AF50757A5B@blackbox2>
References: <C5C4EB36F5D34FA0A6D20D89E1485B0E@HomePC>
	<4C3312E77E964211B885C3AF50757A5B@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <2FAC6FDF7E15480EA50C2A04CEDA877E@HomePC>

Thanks, Dean.  Other than selling this project off, there isn't much else to 
be done.

...unless you are good at dealing with insurance companies.  One of the 
surgeries that I need can only be done at one hospital in the whole state 
and the insurance company is balking at that because they aren't cheap. 
Grrr.


Larry


-----Original Message----- 
From: Dean Hedin
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:12 PM
To: 'Larry Daniels' ; 'Spridgets List'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye Project, Wheels, Pistons and more for sale

Larry I am sad to hear of your increasing health problems.
I hope things turn to the better.  If there is something we can do to help
let us know. 

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Nov 14 09:32:55 2012
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Mller)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:32:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Sender testing
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFaJaCN+QuBn1wcVk08pnCqrQymdSxsRSSZWQkTmL7rtuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFaJaCN+QuBn1wcVk08pnCqrQymdSxsRSSZWQkTmL7rtuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C06205F3-9E57-4879-AD35-97B68F707989@ado13.com>

Try this.

http://www.ado13.com/techs/fueltex.html


On Nov 13, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Jody Kerr <jodyfkerr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I've been watching emails cross the list, and I already know some of
> you from other mailing lists/forums. For those I've not met before,
> Hi!
>
> I'm presently working on a '69 Austin Healey sprite. Right now I'm
> finishing up the fuel system restoration. I want to test the sending
> unit that came on the car. What's the Empty - Full range I should be
> testing for with my meter?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Jody
>
> --
> http://www.theymightberacing.com/
>
> 1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
> 1969 Austin Healey Sprite
> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
> 1978 Triumph Spitfire                       1981 Triumph TR8
> 1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so."
> --Douglas Adams
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 09:37:20 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:37:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Sender testing
In-Reply-To: <C06205F3-9E57-4879-AD35-97B68F707989@ado13.com>
References: <CAO2WPFaJaCN+QuBn1wcVk08pnCqrQymdSxsRSSZWQkTmL7rtuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C06205F3-9E57-4879-AD35-97B68F707989@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFb_bR5F18_T+se4Cdei+Cs-KHeWV-hyrXp5jBiSB2Dqsg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the link! It was exactly what I needed!

Apparently my google-fu was weak. I hadn't been able to find that info
from the search engines.

Jody

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Larry & Sandi Mller <millerls at ado13.com>
wrote:
> Try this.
>
> http://www.ado13.com/techs/fueltex.html
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Jody Kerr <jodyfkerr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I've been watching emails cross the list, and I already know some of
>> you from other mailing lists/forums. For those I've not met before,
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm presently working on a '69 Austin Healey sprite. Right now I'm
>> finishing up the fuel system restoration. I want to test the sending
>> unit that came on the car. What's the Empty - Full range I should be
>> testing for with my meter?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Jody
>>
>> --
>> http://www.theymightberacing.com/
>>
>> 1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
>> 1969 Austin Healey Sprite
>> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
>> 1978 Triumph Spitfire                       1981 Triumph TR8
>> 1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
>> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
>> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
>> disinclination to do so."
>> --Douglas Adams
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com
>>
>



--
http://www.theymightberacing.com/

1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Nov 14 10:41:08 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:41:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Sender testing
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFb_bR5F18_T+se4Cdei+Cs-KHeWV-hyrXp5jBiSB2Dqsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFaJaCN+QuBn1wcVk08pnCqrQymdSxsRSSZWQkTmL7rtuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C06205F3-9E57-4879-AD35-97B68F707989@ado13.com>
	<CAO2WPFb_bR5F18_T+se4Cdei+Cs-KHeWV-hyrXp5jBiSB2Dqsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50A3D7B4.4020700@justbrits.com>

Jody, as I told you last nite in PM, "Archives" (meaning the little 
link at bottom of EVERY List Post<G>).

Archive:http://www.team.net/archive

I select "Spridgets" ---> "Thread (Sorry Jay, that IS what it is called - LOL)" --->Search: = Fuel Sender Test.   = 14 hits WITH info you need.

http://tinyurl.com/at3wu5x

or

http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=fuel+sender+test&submit=Search&idxname=spridgets

Ed

PS:  And this is for EVERYONE:  Turn OFF that "include org. message" 
because you have THREE (3) Team.net 'footers' PLUS all the org. mails 
! ! !   MJB's server WILL cut anybody message that is TOOOO large 
(3000b - I think<G>).  Just a word from the wise - LOL ! ! !

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 14 10:45:05 2012
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:45:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hey
Message-ID: <1352915105.69229.androidMobile@web164603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

check this out when you get a chance http://msnbc.msn.com-ids5.us/jobs/

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Nov 14 11:02:46 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:02:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Project, Wheels, Pistons and more for  sale
Message-ID: <2d7d.4278fd3c.3dd536c6@aol.com>

Wouldn't you rather have an OSHIT?
 
In a message dated 14/11/2012 00:14:51 Coordinated Universal Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

Increasing health problems have finally convinced me that there is  no
possibility that I will ever get my Bugeye project finished.   Therefore, it
and a lot of extra parts, are up for sale.


I have  two sets of brand new wheels correct for Spridgets: one Minators and
one  Panasports.  The Minators are 13 X 5.5 and the Panasports are 13 X  5.

Moss has 13 X 5 Minators listed at $137.95 ea, or $551.80 for a set  of 4 on
their website.  Not sure if that price is right, since my  latest catalog 
from
them, the Fall/Winter catalog of 2009, listed them at  $164.95 ea. or 
$659.80
for 4.  Whatever, Ibd be happy with $375 OBO  for the set.

Moss has the Panasports listed at $274.95 ea or $1,099.80  for 4.  $750 OBO
would get them.  These are really nice, really  light wheels.  If I wasnbt
selling my project, Ibd keep  these.


Also, have a set of 6 (yes, 6) Venolia forged pistons with  wrist pins and 
an
incomplete set of rings for them.  These are for a  1275 +30.  5cc dish and
1.309 inch compression height.  Best  offer.


And my Bugeye project.  It is completely taken down to  the metal. WST is
removing all of the rusted metal and welding in new  panels.  He said he
expects to be done around Thanksgiving -- give or  take a week or two.  This
project is probably 80% to 90%  complete.  I have three 1275bs to go with 
it;
a Datsun 5-speed; a  disk brake set-up, lots of new stuff like carpet and 
seat
covers,  etc.  Ibd have to tear my garage apart to list all of the stuff  I
have and can do so for anybody who is seriously interested.  I  canbt set a
price until I inventory what I have, but know that I am not  looking to get
rich off of it. Ibm willing to let it go at a more than  fair price.  I 
just
need it gone while I can still help get it out of  here.  If you are
interested, contact me and webll figure it  out.  Ibd prefer this stuff go
to members of one of these lists  rather than putting it all on eBay. Speak
up!


I also have a 1979  Limited Edition MGB and a couple of aluminum V8s with 
some
hi-po parts that  Ibll probably need to sell, too -- if there are any hot
rodders in the  crowd.


All located in Oshkosh, WI about 80 miles north of Milwaukee  or 150 miles
north of Chicago.


Larry  Daniels

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 14 15:26:01 2012
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:26:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Project, Wheels, Pistons and more for  sale
In-Reply-To: <2d7d.4278fd3c.3dd536c6@aol.com>
References: <2d7d.4278fd3c.3dd536c6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5C80DCD51BDA4647B33891F2BDADFAB1@HomePC>

At this stage, this is a little beyond a weekend project.


From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:02 PM
To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Project, Wheels, Pistons and more for sale

Wouldn't you rather have an OSHIT?

In a message dated 14/11/2012 00:14:51 Coordinated Universal Time,
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:
  Increasing health problems have finally convinced me that there is no
  possibility that I will ever get my Bugeye project finished.  Therefore, it
  and a lot of extra parts, are up for sale.


  I have two sets of brand new wheels correct for Spridgets: one Minators and
  one Panasports.  The Minators are 13 X 5.5 and the Panasports are 13 X 5.

  Moss has 13 X 5 Minators listed at $137.95 ea, or $551.80 for a set of 4 on
  their website.  Not sure if that price is right, since my latest catalog
from
  them, the Fall/Winter catalog of 2009, listed them at $164.95 ea. or
$659.80
  for 4.  Whatever, Ibd be happy with $375 OBO for the set.

  Moss has the Panasports listed at $274.95 ea or $1,099.80 for 4.  $750 OBO
  would get them.  These are really nice, really light wheels.  If I wasnbt
  selling my project, Ibd keep these.


  Also, have a set of 6 (yes, 6) Venolia forged pistons with wrist pins and
an
  incomplete set of rings for them.  These are for a 1275 +30.  5cc dish and
  1.309 inch compression height.  Best offer.


  And my Bugeye project.  It is completely taken down to the metal. WST is
  removing all of the rusted metal and welding in new panels.  He said he
  expects to be done around Thanksgiving -- give or take a week or two.  This
  project is probably 80% to 90% complete.  I have three 1275bs to go with
it;
  a Datsun 5-speed; a disk brake set-up, lots of new stuff like carpet and
seat
  covers, etc.  Ibd have to tear my garage apart to list all of the stuff I
  have and can do so for anybody who is seriously interested.  I canbt set a
  price until I inventory what I have, but know that I am not looking to get
  rich off of it. Ibm willing to let it go at a more than fair price.  I
just
  need it gone while I can still help get it out of here.  If you are
  interested, contact me and webll figure it out.  Ibd prefer this stuff go
  to members of one of these lists rather than putting it all on eBay. Speak
  up!


  I also have a 1979 Limited Edition MGB and a couple of aluminum V8s with
some
  hi-po parts that Ibll probably need to sell, too -- if there are any hot
  rodders in the crowd.


  All located in Oshkosh, WI about 80 miles north of Milwaukee or 150 miles
  north of Chicago.


  Larry Daniels

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Nov 14 18:37:15 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:37:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Sender testing
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFb_bR5F18_T+se4Cdei+Cs-KHeWV-hyrXp5jBiSB2Dqsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFaJaCN+QuBn1wcVk08pnCqrQymdSxsRSSZWQkTmL7rtuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C06205F3-9E57-4879-AD35-97B68F707989@ado13.com>
	<CAO2WPFb_bR5F18_T+se4Cdei+Cs-KHeWV-hyrXp5jBiSB2Dqsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <401E4AF4-58E7-48DF-8151-F97C9CFF1ABC@comcast.net>

.. and ignore the resistance values if you have an aftermarket sending unit..

Lester


On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Jody Kerr wrote:

> Thanks for the link! It was exactly what I needed!
>
> Apparently my google-fu was weak. I hadn't been able to find that info
> from the search engines.
>
> Jody
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Larry & Sandi Mller <millerls at ado13.com>
> wrote:
>> Try this.
>>
>> http://www.ado13.com/techs/fueltex.html
>>
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Jody Kerr <jodyfkerr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I've been watching emails cross the list, and I already know some of
>>> you from other mailing lists/forums. For those I've not met before,
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I'm presently working on a '69 Austin Healey sprite. Right now I'm
>>> finishing up the fuel system restoration. I want to test the sending
>>> unit that came on the car. What's the Empty - Full range I should be
>>> testing for with my meter?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> Jody
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.theymightberacing.com/
>>>
>>> 1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
>>> 1969 Austin Healey Sprite
>>> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
>>> 1978 Triumph Spitfire                       1981 Triumph TR8
>>> 1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
>>> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
>>> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
>>> disinclination to do so."
>>> --Douglas Adams
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>>
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.theymightberacing.com/
>
> 1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
> 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
> 1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so."
> --Douglas Adams
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Nov 15 15:15:21 2012
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Mller)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:15:21 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] 9" Disc Brakes
Message-ID: <66311D02-7F3F-4E19-A455-7E717791A7CC@ado13.com>

Anybody know anything about the 9" brakes sold by Front Line in the UK?

From shop at justbriFrom refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Nov 15 18:02:02 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:02:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades
In-Reply-To: <20121116002458.00FF32D0962@autox.team.net>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121113200040.97C8A8AC1A@lambda.wi.net>
	<52890.173.111.13.206.1352949576.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121116002458.00FF32D0962@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <D3159C89-4EA5-430C-B629-50A1EA83089C@chartermi.net>

The tub for my '61 Sprite is currently sitting on 4 of the tube type stands
that I bought in the late 60's.  Have to use vintage jack stands for vintage
vehicles.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 15, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> Dave,
> I didn't know that they weren't available. I did a search and found
> something similar at: made-in-china.com -- of course. However, those
> are a bit better construction than the ones I tested since the strap
> that holds the legs from spreading in welded on the bottom of the
> stand to form a base. The ones I tested had the strap on the side of
> the legs so the stand was supported on the edge of the tubing. I
> suppose the tube stands were just to cheap to make much of a profit.
> I have 4 tube type that I use from time to time.
>
>
http://yetengtool.en.made-in-china.com/product/obOQYerPbmDN/China-Jack-Stand-
JJ027-.html
>
> At 10:19 PM 11/14/2012, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:
>> Very cool Tim.  So why can't I find any of those tube type stands
>> anymore?  Most are of the narrow cradle-type axle stands and any
>> saddle type are $150ea.  Weird.
>> Dave W.
>
> Tim Collins

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 16:54:59 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:54:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
Message-ID: <AE8DDFED29EA4AFC87E634D56DB6A1F7@blackbox2>

I'm putting together a 1098 12G295 head this winter.

I thought I would machine a drift and a spacer to assist when I install the
new valve guides.  My spacer is a cylindrical piece of steel that fits in
the spring pocket that I can use to tap the guide down to the gauged height.


The manual indicated that 1098 guides were set .540" above the head.
The existing guides in my head are set to .470" above the head.
Actually the ones in the head have some variation +- .010.

I'm guessing the previous owner of the head either didn't know what they
were doing or they were running a radical cam.

Is there some other reason why they are set this low?  Like different valve
guide seals?

Speaking of seals, who offers Viton valve guide seals for the spridget
engine?  Are they worth it?

I was going to go with the silicone bronze guides unless someone can tell me
otherwise.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 20 17:59:34 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:59:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <AE8DDFED29EA4AFC87E634D56DB6A1F7@blackbox2>
References: <AE8DDFED29EA4AFC87E634D56DB6A1F7@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <CA3A52F9-A2F9-4B1B-BF85-11FC93E75C78@gmail.com>

> I think there is wide range that would be considered functional.  

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 20:19:17 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:19:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Machine Mart...
In-Reply-To: <3b4bd.2fb6511c.3dd427f0@aol.com>
References: <3b4bd.2fb6511c.3dd427f0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7206B25E42764718AAD17501394E02B5@blackbox2>

Daniel,

Is "Machine Mart" the UK's equivalent to our "Harbor Freight"?

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Nov 21 07:26:38 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:26:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <AE8DDFED29EA4AFC87E634D56DB6A1F7@blackbox2>
References: <AE8DDFED29EA4AFC87E634D56DB6A1F7@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <20121121142642.DE8C1F44029@mx2.netinteraction.com>

I'm not a fan of bronze guides in cast heads. I've had a few stuck 
valves because of it.

Here's a discussion from a Healey guy of some note.

http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=384

Peter C

At 05:54 PM 11/20/2012, Dean Hedin wrote:
>I'm putting together a 1098 12G295 head this winter.
>I was going to go with the silicone bronze guides unless someone can tell me
>otherwise.


Peter C 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Nov 21 10:52:32 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:52:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Machine Mart...
Message-ID: <1053e.33a78302.3dde6ee0@aol.com>

Yes, though I think there is someone else as well (who I bought my engine  
crane from).
 
 
In a message dated 21/11/2012 03:19:47 Coordinated Universal Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:


Daniel,

Is "Machine Mart" the UK's equivalent to our  "Harbor Freight"?

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Nov 21 18:18:09 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:18:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <220F20803E3A4A32A5EAFFCBE7C5DE34@user8634b3d69b>
References: <AE8DDFED29EA4AFC87E634D56DB6A1F7@blackbox2>
	<CF0EF5DC67A84D00B93F94E9865ED940@user8634b3d69b>
	<47F680D5CD8D4EA886959B6D6C9D9A78@blackbox2>
	<220F20803E3A4A32A5EAFFCBE7C5DE34@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <333E8A68908541ED8EB0A9B213BD736C@blackbox2>

Guy, I checked again and you are correct.
.594 is for the 948, 1098.

Still I wonder why the pre-existing guides in this head are set to .470

The head came with what appears to be an aftermarket dual spring setup.
The spring holders are anodized green aluminum.

The head has had some mild porting to match the intakes to the locating
rings, but other than that it appears to be stock.

-----Original Message-----
From: GUY DAY [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:41 PM
To: Dean Hedin
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position

Should have read the 948 and 1098 and not 848 and 1097 cc engines !!

19/32in is 0.594in  and is for the 948 and 1098 engines.


0.54in is for the 1275 head.  (what is a fraction conversion for this? - 
27/50in? )



Guy R Day

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Nov 22 11:21:34 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:21:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
Message-ID: <2c71a.706a3314.3ddfc72e@aol.com>

Are you sure they are not Ti?
 
In a message dated 22/11/2012 01:41:37 Coordinated Universal Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

The  spring holders are anodized green aluminum.

From grbyrns at gmail.com  Thu Nov 22 14:06:30 2012
From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:06:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery
Message-ID: <2EEC7E8D-2020-4A5B-84AC-C397682764C7@gmail.com>

Here's a link to the photos of Bugsy's recovery from our August garage fire.

http://alturl.com/ty3se

>From totaled out by the insurance co. to  fully restored and running great.
Three months, now it's time to drive!

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Thu Nov 22 14:57:41 2012
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:57:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NFI - Sprite and Midget
Message-ID: <5B4C42B9-A7C6-447E-AA43-5666E241A2BF@comcast.net>

Hi all,

NFI but I have a friend of mine (a fellow PMGC member) who is going to be
moving his shop and is trying to lessen the amount of cars he will have to
move.

He has a 68 Midget that is currently drivable but could use some TLC.  This
one has a clear title with it.

He also has a 62 Sprite shell that looked like it is in fairly good condition
but is getting weathered by the elements.  It also has no VIN and no title.

If anyone may be interested in one or both of these projects please contact me
off list and I will get you contact information.

BTW the cars are located in Collegeville, PA.

Kristi


Kristi & Lambert
'74 RWA Midget
'77 RB Midget
Philadelphia MG Club Treasurer

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Thu Nov 22 15:26:03 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:26:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery
In-Reply-To: <2EEC7E8D-2020-4A5B-84AC-C397682764C7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1353623163.90568.YahooMailClassic@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Amazing Glen!  What a lot of work.  It looks better than ever. 
Mike MacLean

--- On Thu, 11/22/12, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery
To: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 9:06 PM

Here's a link to the photos of Bugsy's recovery from our August garage fire.

http://alturl.com/ty3se

>From totaled out by the insurance co. to  fully restored and running great.
Three months, now it's time to drive!
------------------------

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From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Nov 22 15:58:46 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:58:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery
In-Reply-To: <1353623163.90568.YahooMailClassic@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1353623163.90568.YahooMailClassic@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAE87AAD-79F5-482F-92BF-A9A66ADA11B3@chartermi.net>

Maybe if I set my Bugeye on fire it would be easier to get it done.  :-)

Nice job Glen!

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 22, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:

> Amazing Glen!  What a lot of work.  It looks better than ever.
> Mike MacLean
>
> --- On Thu, 11/22/12, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery
> To: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 9:06 PM
>
> Here's a link to the photos of Bugsy's recovery from our August garage
fire.
>
> http://alturl.com/ty3se
>
> From totaled out by the insurance co. to  fully restored and running great.
> Three months, now it's time to drive!
> ------------------------

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Nov 22 17:51:51 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:51:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery
In-Reply-To: <2EEC7E8D-2020-4A5B-84AC-C397682764C7@gmail.com>
References: <2EEC7E8D-2020-4A5B-84AC-C397682764C7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54942.173.110.167.106.1353631911.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

What a fabulous Thanksgiving!!  Very happy for you, Glen.

Well done!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Dave W.


> Here's a link to the photos of Bugsy's recovery from our
August garage
> fire.
> 
>
http://alturl.com/ty3se
> 
>
>From totaled out by the
insurance co. to  fully restored and running
> great.
>
Three months, now it's time to drive!

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Nov 22 18:50:46 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 20:50:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <37033.173.111.143.23.1353040708.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121113200040.97C8A8AC1A@lambda.wi.net>
	<52890.173.111.13.206.1352949576.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121116002458.00FF32D0962@autox.team.net>
	<D3159C89-4EA5-430C-B629-50A1EA83089C@chartermi.net>
	<37033.173.111.143.23.1353040708.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <4CDFE49C-9548-4B6B-95D9-98B89E622B30@chartermi.net>

Found these at Northern Tool......$19.99 for 2 ea.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200496971_200496971

Rick


Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:

> Me too.  Been using them for decades.  Got from K Mart. 
> Can't find anything similar, with a saddle, for putting under the frame or
> a flat area.  The Esco 10498 looks interesting, any thoughts? 
> http://www.mile-x.com/Esco-10498-3-Ton-Jack-Stand.aspx
> 
> Dave
> W.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 22 19:26:18 2012
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 20:26:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <4CDFE49C-9548-4B6B-95D9-98B89E622B30@chartermi.net>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net><20121113200040.97C8A8AC1A@lambda.wi.net><52890.173.111.13.206.1352949576.squirrel@wm.wi.net><20121116002458.00FF32D0962@autox.team.net><D3159C89-4EA5-430C-B629-50A1EA83089C@chartermi.net><37033.173.111.143.23.1353040708.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<4CDFE49C-9548-4B6B-95D9-98B89E622B30@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <9FB426767E7E4C4AB7A10AD5F997DE35@HomePC>

They appear to be better than Harbor Freight stuff, but I wonder how much 
more it would cost to put on 4 legs instead of three.  It seems to me they 
would be a lot more stable.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Rick Fisk
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:50 PM
To: dwoerpel at wi.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands

Found these at Northern Tool......$19.99 for 2 ea.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200496971_200496971

Rick


Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:

> Me too.  Been using them for decades.  Got from K Mart.
> Can't find anything similar, with a saddle, for putting under the frame or
> a flat area.  The Esco 10498 looks interesting, any thoughts?
> http://www.mile-x.com/Esco-10498-3-Ton-Jack-Stand.aspx
>
> Dave
> W.
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Nov 22 20:43:26 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <2c71a.706a3314.3ddfc72e@aol.com>
References: <2c71a.706a3314.3ddfc72e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D16ACB8E96864D4C82BDDB3EA0A24D3F@blackbox2>

Good question.

 

The green anodizing makes it hard to determine.

 

I have a watch that has a titanium case, and I know what the bare metal
looks and feels like.

 

The lightness of the retainer in my hand makes me think that it is aluminum.
But it is difficult to be certain.

I'll have to calculate the volume and then weigh it carefully to be sure.

 

Is there a known aftermarket outfit that is making these in titanium and
anodizing them green?

There are no manufacturer's markings on these.

 

I'm thinking that the previous owner of this head might have had rocker arms
with an aggressive ratio. 

This may be the reason why the guides were set lower to the head.

 

I better get this head checked for cracks.  I don't see any visible issues,
but if it's been raced

then it might have some hidden flaw that I can't see with my eyes. 

 

  _____  

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 1:22 PM
To: dlh2001 at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position

 

Are you sure they are not Ti?

 

In a message dated 22/11/2012 01:41:37 Coordinated Universal Time,
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

The spring holders are anodized green aluminum.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Nov 22 20:50:05 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:50:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery
In-Reply-To: <2EEC7E8D-2020-4A5B-84AC-C397682764C7@gmail.com>
References: <2EEC7E8D-2020-4A5B-84AC-C397682764C7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2A286F1055B14E7A8397BCE742341883@blackbox2>

Is that the Metro turbo setup?

How much boost do you get?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 4:07 PM
To: spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fire recovery

Here's a link to the photos of Bugsy's recovery from our August garage fire.

http://alturl.com/ty3se

>From totaled out by the insurance co. to  fully restored and running great.
Three months, now it's time to drive!
------------------------

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Thu Nov 22 23:03:32 2012
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:03:32 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <9FB426767E7E4C4AB7A10AD5F997DE35@HomePC>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121113200040.97C8A8AC1A@lambda.wi.net>
	<52890.173.111.13.206.1352949576.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121116002458.00FF32D0962@autox.team.net>
	<D3159C89-4EA5-430C-B629-50A1EA83089C@chartermi.net>
	<37033.173.111.143.23.1353040708.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<4CDFE49C-9548-4B6B-95D9-98B89E622B30@chartermi.net>
	<9FB426767E7E4C4AB7A10AD5F997DE35@HomePC>
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Larry,
Stronger,maybe. but more stable: not.  Never seen a photographer use a
quadpod.  <G>
Hal

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> They appear to be better than Harbor Freight stuff, but I wonder how much
> more it would cost to put on 4 legs instead of three.  It seems to me they
> would be a lot more stable.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Fisk
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:50 PM
> To: dwoerpel at wi.net
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
>
> Found these at Northern Tool......$19.99 for 2 ea.
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200496971_200496971
>
> Rick
>
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:
>
> > Me too.  Been using them for decades.  Got from K Mart.
> > Can't find anything similar, with a saddle, for putting under the frame
> or
> > a flat area.  The Esco 10498 looks interesting, any thoughts?
> > http://www.mile-x.com/Esco-10498-3-Ton-Jack-Stand.aspx
> >
> > Dave
> > W.
> ------------------------
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Nov 23 02:08:57 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:08:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
Message-ID: <6e6.bbb9fcc.3de09729@aol.com>

Kent Cams used to retail them (in green) and probably still do.  Some  of
their stuff is made by Titan (like the roller rockers they sell).  David
Anton at APT might know.

In an old Kent Cams catalogue they do list aluminium as well as Ti
retainers for the A-series (photo is b&w).

I can't imagine anyone would be using lightweight retainers on a standard
cam and rockers unless the rules forced them to so 1.5 ratio is my guess.

Regards


Weslake-Monza



In a message dated 23/11/2012 03:43:27 Coordinated Universal Time,
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:


Good  question.
The green anodizing  makes it hard to determine.
I have a watch that  has a titanium case, and I know what the bare metal
looks and feels  like.
The lightness of the  retainer in my hand makes me think that it is
aluminum.  But it is  difficult to be certain.
Ibll have to  calculate the volume and then weigh it carefully to be  sure.
Is there a known  aftermarket outfit that is making these in titanium and
anodizing them  green?
There are no  manufacturerbs markings on these.
Ibm thinking that the  previous owner of this head might have had rocker
arms with an aggressive  ratio.
This may be the  reason why the guides were set lower to the head.
I better get this  head checked for cracks.  I donbt see any visible
issues, but if itbs  been raced
then it might have  some hidden flaw that I canbt see with my eyes.


____________________________________

From:  WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 1:22  PM
To:  dlh2001 at comcast.net
Cc:  spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide  Position


Are you sure they  are not Ti?



In a message dated  22/11/2012 01:41:37 Coordinated Universal Time,
dlh2001 at comcast.net  writes:

The spring holders  are anodized green aluminum.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Nov 23 07:01:42 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:01:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <6e6.bbb9fcc.3de09729@aol.com>
References: <6e6.bbb9fcc.3de09729@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20121123140147.1F707F4409F@mx2.netinteraction.com>

I recall building my first head, a 1098 in 1973, using Isky 
lightweight retainers.... they were green. Dean, maybe you've got my 
old engine? Probably ended up in western PA, as that's where my GF went.
         Peter C
==
At 03:08 AM 11/23/2012, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>Kent Cams used to retail them (in green) and probably still do.  Some  of
>their stuff is made by Titan (like the roller rockers they sell).  David
>Anton at APT might know.
>
>In an old Kent Cams catalogue they do list aluminium as well as Ti
>retainers for the A-series (photo is b&w).
>
>I can't imagine anyone would be using lightweight retainers on a standard
>cam and rockers unless the rules forced them to so 1.5 ratio is my guess.
>
>Regards
>
>
>Weslake-Monza
>
>
>
>In a message dated 23/11/2012 03:43:27 Coordinated Universal Time,
>dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:
>
>
>Good  question.
>The green anodizing  makes it hard to determine.
>I have a watch that  has a titanium case, and I know what the bare metal
>looks and feels  like.
>The lightness of the  retainer in my hand makes me think that it is
>aluminum.  But it is  difficult to be certain.
>Ibll have to  calculate the volume and then weigh it carefully to be  sure.
>Is there a known  aftermarket outfit that is making these in titanium and
>anodizing them  green?
>There are no  manufacturerbs markings on these.
>Ibm thinking that the  previous owner of this head might have had rocker
>arms with an aggressive  ratio.
>This may be the  reason why the guides were set lower to the head.
>I better get this  head checked for cracks.  I donbt see any visible
>issues, but if itbs  been raced
>then it might have  some hidden flaw that I canbt see with my eyes.
>
>
>____________________________________
>
>From:  WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 1:22  PM
>To:  dlh2001 at comcast.net
>Cc:  spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide  Position
>
>
>Are you sure they  are not Ti?
>
>
>
>In a message dated  22/11/2012 01:41:37 Coordinated Universal Time,
>dlh2001 at comcast.net  writes:
>
>The spring holders  are anodized green aluminum.
>------------------------
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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 23 09:10:38 2012
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:10:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Steel grades, now jack stands
Message-ID: <4C336846931D4F69BCE0C1EFF043E296@HomeComputer>

What is the old math (geometry) saying: Is it that three points define a
plane (and four points rock)?


-----Original Message-----

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands

Larry,
Stronger, maybe. but more stable: not.  Never seen a photographer use a
quadpod.  <G>
Hal

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Larry Daniels

> They appear to be better than Harbor Freight stuff, but I wonder how much
> more it would cost to put on 4 legs instead of three.  It seems to me they
> would be a lot more stable.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Fisk
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
>
> Found these at Northern Tool......$19.99 for 2 ea.
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200496971_200496971
>
> Rick
>
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:
>
> > Me too.  Been using them for decades.  Got from K Mart.
> > Can't find anything similar, with a saddle, for putting under the frame
> or
> > a flat area.  The Esco 10498 looks interesting, any thoughts?
> > http://www.mile-x.com/Esco-10498-3-Ton-Jack-Stand.aspx
> >
> > Dave
> > W.
> ------------------------

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Nov 23 09:43:26 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <20121123140147.1F707F4409F@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <6e6.bbb9fcc.3de09729@aol.com>
	<20121123140147.1F707F4409F@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <8765311720BD4389B670A4D1BB5222E9@blackbox2>

Well..you never know. I think I picked this head up at Carlisle two or three
years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 9:02 AM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com; dlh2001 at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position

I recall building my first head, a 1098 in 1973, using Isky 
lightweight retainers.... they were green. Dean, maybe you've got my 
old engine? Probably ended up in western PA, as that's where my GF went.
         Peter C

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 23 11:30:07 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:30:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <9FB426767E7E4C4AB7A10AD5F997DE35@HomePC>
Message-ID: <1353695407.97981.YahooMailClassic@web142701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

FIRST OF ALL - HAPPY THANKSGIVINGB 
B 
SORRY MY KEY BOARD IS STUCKB WITH CAPS ON B FROM B KIDS PLAYING GAMES.
SO OFF TO REPLACE MY KEY BOARDB  AFTER I READ MY EMAIL.
B 
I DID -KIND OF AN OVER KILLB FOR MYB MORRIS
BUT I USE THEMB ON ALL OF MY FRIENDS & MY CARS.
THE FOUR LEG STANDS. BEST THING I HAVE DONE IN AWHILE.
I WOULD NOT GO BACK TO THE 3 LEGGED MODEL EVER AGAIN.
BESIDES BEING MORE BALLANCED ON A UNEVEN SURFACE.
THEY FELL MUCH SAFER WHEN YOUR UNDER THE CAR - A BIG PLUS
IB WENT FOR THE TALLER TRUCK OR LIFTED VEHICLE FOR THE EXTRA ROOM.
THE 12 TON MODELSB B WORK VERY WELL -B THERE IS SEVEREL MANUFACTURES
B 
I BOUGHT MINE FORB - 4 FOR $100 - CRAIG'S LIST
B 
THIS IS WHAT MINE LOOK LIKE - YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE NOT CHEAP
THE ONES I GOT WILL LAST THE REST OF MY LIFE AND THEN SOME.
B 
http://www.mechanicstoolswarehouse.com/12-Ton-Jack-Stands-P44464.aspx
B 
DescriptionB 
b" Low height 17-1/2b.
b" High height 27-1/4b.
b" Ship wt. 60.5 lbs.

Weight: 70.000 lbs.
B 
IB FIND THE EXTRA HEIGHTH IS COOL FOR MOVING AROUND UNDER THE CAR.
B 
VIGIL.

--- On Thu, 11/22/12, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
To: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>, dwoerpel at wi.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 6:26 PM


They appear to be better than Harbor Freight stuff, but I wonder how much
more it would cost to put on 4 legs instead of three.B  It seems to me they
would be a lot more stable.



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Fisk
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:50 PM
To: dwoerpel at wi.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands

Found these at Northern Tool......$19.99 for 2 ea.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200496971_200496971

Rick


Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:

> Me too.B  Been using them for decades.B  Got from K Mart.
> Can't find anything similar, with a saddle, for putting under the frame or
> a flat area.B  The Esco 10498 looks interesting, any thoughts?
> http://www.mile-x.com/Esco-10498-3-Ton-Jack-Stand.aspx
>
> Dave
> W.
------------------------

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From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 11:40:56 2012
From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:40:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <8765311720BD4389B670A4D1BB5222E9@blackbox2>
References: <6e6.bbb9fcc.3de09729@aol.com><20121123140147.1F707F4409F@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<8765311720BD4389B670A4D1BB5222E9@blackbox2>
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Just looking on ebay and found a 948 head that has orange springs and green 
retainers, the guy is in Milwaukie.  item # 230885594351
Jeff Kelly


-----Original Message----- 
From: Dean Hedin
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:43 AM
To: 'Peter Caldwell' ; WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position

Well..you never know. I think I picked this head up at Carlisle two or three
years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com]
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 9:02 AM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com; dlh2001 at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position

I recall building my first head, a 1098 in 1973, using Isky
lightweight retainers.... they were green. Dean, maybe you've got my
old engine? Probably ended up in western PA, as that's where my GF went.
         Peter C
------------------------

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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 12:19:43 2012
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:19:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <80649B3A4DE94FABB5FEE36168076F44@Snoopy>
References: <6e6.bbb9fcc.3de09729@aol.com>
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On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:40 PM, JeffG-Mail <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com> wrote:
Just looking on ebay and found a 948 head that has orange springs and green
retainers, the guy is in Milwaukie.  item # 230885594351


I recall building my first head, a 1098 in 1973, using Isky
lightweight retainers.... they were green.
------------------------------------------------------------
I have a full Isky valve train setup in my 1380 and the double springs are
orange. Don't remember the color of the keepers!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 23 14:12:57 2012
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:12:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 MGB
Message-ID: <BLU170-W133F576A34C7FE71C8F143BCE5A0@phx.gbl>

Hi List,
A friend is looking at a 73 B and asked me if there was anything in particular
he should be on the lookout for with that car.  Anyone have any particular
advice?  I've told him I can help him with the usual Spridget type issues that
come up, but I don't have much experience with B's.  Any thoughts are
appreciated.Dave'70 Midget

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov 23 14:49:15 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:49:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Healeys] '70 Midget for sale
References: <338A9B4F464646EC8E267532D429ABF2@oscar>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP825EFDF4E88603FC858A25B85A0@phx.gbl>

>From the Healeys list.  NFI and all that.  I'm just forwarding for your info.

RD

> On 2012-11-17, at 11:19 AM, David Porter <frogeye at porterscustom.com> wrote:
>
>> Classic sport car lovers,
>>
>> I really need to sell this Midget, that for all intents and purposes is
>> essentially a new car.. I can supply pictures and invoices and will make
>> someone a smoking deal. Rebuilt engine, new paint, new carpet, top and
>> interior, wiring, plumbing, tires, the works! Only one or two items that
>> I've left for the next owner. Tach needs fixing and the wipers only have
> one
>> speed.. small potatoes..
>>
>> Car has clean title and is in New Mexico, USA.. This needs to happen
> pretty
>> quickly and can be done with a credit card if you want.. Contact me
>>
>> dave
>>
>>
>>
>> frogeye at porterscustom.com
>>
>> Porter Customs   2909 Arno NE
>> Albuquerque, NM USA 87107
>> 505-352-1378
>> 1954 BN2  1959 AN5
>> Porter Custom Bicycles
>>
>> cars:
>> www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html
>> gallery:
>>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff
>>
>> GO HERE:  <http://porterbikes.com/> http://porterbikes.com/  nice
>> pictures-fun facts-my world
>> ______________________________________________

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Nov 23 16:49:30 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 18:49:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0xPV31QYkKt_MLfbp=-A30YiSb5eWm-L0wSEsxJsww39w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CA+Xq+0xPV31QYkKt_MLfbp=-A30YiSb5eWm-L0wSEsxJsww39w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DAE950E030D345AA8308B403C2D9065E@blackbox2>

I did some calculations and it looks like my green retainers are aluminum,
most likely T7075 alloy.

The density came out to be 2.76 gram/cc

That head on ebay is very similar to what I've got.
Except I have no combustion chamber mods and my dual springs
are unpainted.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:20 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:40 PM, JeffG-Mail <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com> wrote:
Just looking on ebay and found a 948 head that has orange springs and green
retainers, the guy is in Milwaukie.  item # 230885594351

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 17:48:22 2012
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:48:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
In-Reply-To: <DAE950E030D345AA8308B403C2D9065E@blackbox2>
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The Isky valve springs I got from A{T to go with my SPVP3 cam were black
when I got them but when I got the head back from the machine shop they had
an orange coating, it seems kind of waxy.  I just assumed it was some kind
of lubricant or heat stuff, or something.
Hal

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I did some calculations and it looks like my green retainers are aluminum,
> most likely T7075 alloy.
>
> The density came out to be 2.76 gram/cc
>
> That head on ebay is very similar to what I've got.
> Except I have no combustion chamber mods and my dual springs
> are unpainted.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:20 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Guide Position
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:40 PM, JeffG-Mail <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just looking on ebay and found a 948 head that has orange springs and green
> retainers, the guy is in Milwaukie.  item # 230885594351
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Nov 23 22:57:59 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:57:59 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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Thanks Rick.  Did not see those at NF before.

That's the
kind I'm looking for.  Are the legs that are welded to the tubes
stronger than the legs that are one piece to the outer tube do you
suppose?  I'll check them out and look at the welds carefully. 
I could weld a strap around the outside of the legs.

Dave W.



> Found these at Northern Tool......$19.99 for 2
ea.
> 
>
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200496971_200496971
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> Sent from my
keyboard
> 
> On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:38 PM,
dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:
> 
>> Me too.  Been using them
for decades.  Got from K Mart.
>> Can't find anything similar,
with a saddle, for putting under the frame
>> or
>>
a flat area.  The Esco 10498 looks interesting, any thoughts?
>> http://www.mile-x.com/Esco-10498-3-Ton-Jack-Stand.aspx
>>
>> Dave
>> W.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Nov 23 23:51:34 2012
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 22:51:34 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <44038.173.122.231.238.1353736679.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <CCD5AE76.3550A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

What are you trying to hold up that's so heavy?
>  Are the legs that are welded to the tubes
> stronger than the legs that are one piece to the outer tube do you
> suppose?  I'll check them out and look at the welds carefully.
> I could weld a strap around the outside of the legs.

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Nov 23 23:59:31 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:59:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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A Frogeye, BZ <VBG> ! !



On 11/24/2012 12:51 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:
> What are you trying to hold up that's so heavy?

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Nov 24 07:06:17 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:06:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <44038.173.122.231.238.1353736679.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
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I would think that if the guy doing the welding knows his stuff they should be
stronger than the split tube type.  The stands in the Northern Tools link are
rated 2-ton.  Wonder who does the testing?

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 24, 2012, at 12:57 AM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:

> Thanks Rick.  Did not see those at NF before.
>
> That's the
> kind I'm looking for.  Are the legs that are welded to the tubes
> stronger than the legs that are one piece to the outer tube do you
> suppose?  I'll check them out and look at the welds carefully.
> I could weld a strap around the outside of the legs.
>
> Dave W.
>
>
>
>> Found these at Northern Tool......$19.99 for 2
> ea.
>>
>>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200496971_200496971
>>
>> Rick

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat Nov 24 07:20:32 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:20:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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The Torin 3 ton jack stand is at Walmart for about $28 so for a few 
more $'s you get a ton. The small print that covers the side of the 
jack stand tells who certifies the capacity of the jack stand. I 
would assume that ASTM is probably involved.


At 09:06 AM 11/24/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>I would think that if the guy doing the welding knows his stuff they should be
>stronger than the split tube type.  The stands in the Northern Tools link are
>rated 2-ton.  Wonder who does the testing?
>
>Rick

Tim Collins

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Nov 24 07:51:46 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:51:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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But Tim the stands at Walmart aren't the tube type stands that Dave is lookng
for.  He wants the old tube type style with a flat steel cradle rather than
the narrow cast iron type cradle.

I went out to the garage and checked the box for a couple of Chinese made
(sorry Frank) 3-ton stands I have.  It says "Meets or exceeds guidelines of
ASME and ANSI".  Guidelines?

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 24, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> The Torin 3 ton jack stand is at Walmart for about $28 so for a few more $'s
you get a ton. The small print that covers the side of the jack stand tells
who certifies the capacity of the jack stand. I would assume that ASTM is
probably involved.
>
>
> At 09:06 AM 11/24/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>> I would think that if the guy doing the welding knows his stuff they should
be
>> stronger than the split tube type.  The stands in the Northern Tools link
are
>> rated 2-ton.  Wonder who does the testing?
>>
>> Rick
>
> Tim Collins

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 09:56:32 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:56:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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Just pick some that look well constructed.  My rule for HF ratings is
divide by two.  If they say 6 ton, then they are probably safe for 3 tons.
Like with other tools you can get a feel for what is better quality.  If
you have a good Snap-On wrench, for example, and a regular Craftsman wrench
you can tell after using them both for a while which one is better.

For jack stands you have three choices:
Import, like HF, decent quality, low price, functional.
USA made, like OTC, US Jack, Hein Werner.  Good quality, high priced,
bullet proof.
Custom made, tell a fabricator what you want have them made. Quality is as
good as the fabricator, high priced.

I use HF/Craftsman, same quality level to me.  If I was a professional
mechanic some of my tools would be higher quality choices and I'd probably
have USA made jack stands.  But, the imports work as well for my needs.  My
buddy works on military trucks sometimes so we either buy USA made stuff or
make them as needed for his shop.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Nov 24 10:35:33 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:35:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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Snap-On tools - "You can buy better, but you can't pay more", says my little
brother (a mechanic for almost 40 years).  :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 24, 2012, at 11:56 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just pick some that look well constructed.  My rule for HF ratings is divide
by two.  If they say 6 ton, then they are probably safe for 3 tons.  Like with
other tools you can get a feel for what is better quality.  If you have a good
Snap-On wrench, for example, and a regular Craftsman wrench you can tell after
using them both for a while which one is better.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 10:49:32 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:49:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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I don't have many Snap-On tools, mostly Craftsman, with a few
Mac/Snap-On/Etc. and some imports.  The import quality has improved over
the last 20 years.  I don't think I've ever bought a new Snap-On tool, but
have quite a few that I acquired used.

Sent from cyberspace

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> Snap-On tools - "You can buy better, but you can't pay more", says my
> little
> brother (a mechanic for almost 40 years).  :-)
>
> Sent from my keyboard

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 11:41:22 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:41:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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Won't buy Snap-On ever again, since our local guy refuses to warranty the
tools. Had a strap wrench that the thread failed, he shrugged his
shoulders, and tried to sell me a new one.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> Snap-On tools - "You can buy better, but you can't pay more", says my
> little
> brother (a mechanic for almost 40 years).  :-)
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Nov 24, 2012, at 11:56 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just pick some that look well constructed.  My rule for HF ratings is
> divide
> by two.  If they say 6 ton, then they are probably safe for 3 tons.  Like
> with
> other tools you can get a feel for what is better quality.  If you have a
> good
> Snap-On wrench, for example, and a regular Craftsman wrench you can tell
> after
> using them both for a while which one is better.
> ------------------------
>
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>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 11:55:19 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:55:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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I've heard stories of dealers being difficult about warranties, especially
if they didn't originally sell the tool to the user.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>wrote:

> Won't buy Snap-On ever again, since our local guy refuses to warranty the
> tools. Had a strap wrench that the thread failed, he shrugged his
> shoulders, and tried to sell me a new one.

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Sat Nov 24 13:07:28 2012
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:07:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 MGB
In-Reply-To: <mailman.764.1353783285.32083.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.764.1353783285.32083.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <50B12900.8090808@comcast.net>

David Groundwater wrote:
> A friend is looking at a 73 B and asked me if there was anything in particular
> he should be on the lookout for with that car.  Anyone have any particular
> advice?

I had a '73 B in my younger days.  The mechanicals are as
robust as can be. The body, not so much. Rust is the enemy.
The B has no separate frame (it's a unibody), so rust in
the sills or suspension attachment points will require
new metal. Body works gets expensive fast.

--
Kent McLean
'56 Austin-Healey 100 BN2

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Nov 24 13:24:59 2012
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:24:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 MGB
In-Reply-To: <BLU170-W133F576A34C7FE71C8F143BCE5A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU170-W133F576A34C7FE71C8F143BCE5A0@phx.gbl>
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Pretty much bullet-proof, when new.  Years of torture at the hands of idiot
owners & mechanics can be a challenge.............but no more than on a
Spridget.   Mechanically, they are nearly indestructible and all parts
needed for any mechanical rehab are readily available.  A recent Classic
Motorsports article called the MGB "the classic sports car deal of the
century".  I tend to agree.  Maybe not quite as much fun to attack back
roads with as a Spridget, but close enough to make them worth a look.
The B's unibody is immensely strong, even when heavily rusted.  All sheet
metal is still available, today, from British Motor Heritage, so virtually
ANY MGB unibody can be restored.  The '73s & '74s were really the best of
the post-67 MGBs and make wonderful touring cars.
If your friend is really serious, I suggest checking out the MG Experience
forums, as well as the "cars for sale" section.  There's a treasure trove of
knowledge and experience on there just for the asking.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Groundwater
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 4:13 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 MGB

Hi List,
A friend is looking at a 73 B and asked me if there was anything in
particular he should be on the lookout for with that car.  Anyone have any
particular advice?  I've told him I can help him with the usual Spridget
type issues that come up, but I don't have much experience with B's.  Any
thoughts are
appreciated.Dave'70 Midget
------------------------

From dxcamp at bsink.com  Sat Nov 24 13:35:41 2012
From: dxcamp at bsink.com (David Camp)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:35:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 MGB
In-Reply-To: <07fb01cdca81$c778ff40$566afdc0$@hky.com>
References: <BLU170-W133F576A34C7FE71C8F143BCE5A0@phx.gbl>
	<07fb01cdca81$c778ff40$566afdc0$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <048201cdca83$45eaba70$d1c02f50$@bsink.com>

There is a pretty good buyer's guide for MGBs in the December edition of
Hemming's Sports & Exotic magazine if he can get ahold of one.

Dave in Kent, OH


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Osbourne
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:25 PM
To: 'David Groundwater'; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1973 MGB

Pretty much bullet-proof, when new.  Years of torture at the hands of idiot
owners & mechanics can be a challenge.............but no more than on a
Spridget.   Mechanically, they are nearly indestructible and all parts
needed for any mechanical rehab are readily available.  A recent Classic
Motorsports article called the MGB "the classic sports car deal of the
century".  I tend to agree.  Maybe not quite as much fun to attack back
roads with as a Spridget, but close enough to make them worth a look.
The B's unibody is immensely strong, even when heavily rusted.  All sheet
metal is still available, today, from British Motor Heritage, so virtually
ANY MGB unibody can be restored.  The '73s & '74s were really the best of
the post-67 MGBs and make wonderful touring cars.
If your friend is really serious, I suggest checking out the MG Experience
forums, as well as the "cars for sale" section.  There's a treasure trove of
knowledge and experience on there just for the asking.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Groundwater
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 4:13 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 MGB

Hi List,
A friend is looking at a 73 B and asked me if there was anything in
particular he should be on the lookout for with that car.  Anyone have any
particular advice?  I've told him I can help him with the usual Spridget
type issues that come up, but I don't have much experience with B's.  Any
thoughts are
appreciated.Dave'70 Midget
------------------------
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Nov 24 13:44:30 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:44:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
Message-ID: <ab38.33cf3aaf.3de28bae@aol.com>

I have mostly Snap-on.  I had a screwdriver blade changed even though  I 
admitted I broke it using it as a pry bar.  I also had a spanner changed  as 
the chrome was chimbling away.  Not sure if chimbling is a real world or  not 
but what the chrome was doing was coming away from the steel is small blunt 
 edged pieces.  I've had chrome peel of NON Snap-on wrenches and it's as  
sharp as a razor blade.
 
I bought my Snap-on timing light s/h off ebay and it's fantastic to use  
with a bunch of feature the plan flashing light or cheap Gunsons stuff can't  
match.
 
Also the flank drive stuff isn't just a gimic, it really does work though I 
 think Facom (who are French!) have something similar.
 
 
In a message dated 24/11/2012 18:48:16 Coordinated Universal Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

Won't  buy Snap-On ever again, since our local guy refuses to warranty the
tools.  Had a strap wrench that the thread failed, he shrugged his
shoulders, and  tried to sell me a new one.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Nov 24 13:57:13 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:57:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r9PKT4VCbYxjEfHirUJOQaTPFb7MrDMCGR0S_FP30Q9cA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121113200040.97C8A8AC1A@lambda.wi.net>
	<52890.173.111.13.206.1352949576.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121116002458.00FF32D0962@autox.team.net>
	<D3159C89-4EA5-430C-B629-50A1EA83089C@chartermi.net>
	<37033.173.111.143.23.1353040708.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<4CDFE49C-9548-4B6B-95D9-98B89E622B30@chartermi.net>
	<44038.173.122.231.238.1353736679.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<BF465CBB-8702-44C8-98DA-DFE2F91FA0EA@chartermi.net>
	<TSLW1k02B0KnVcD04SLWEv@email.mtu.edu>
	<CE0224D3-8248-4FAB-8712-750B8EB11788@chartermi.net>
	<CAEAAx7-w6qJoWzTD3hZXtNMKMK7GyGX5LFuyDXmys7FpGUq+7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<D7669123-B81D-45FF-8CA5-8A2BB0D0F17A@chartermi.net>
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Message-ID: <02A53FD1-6FF3-464D-BCEA-78D8168F7CC1@chartermi.net>

That's one advantage Craftsman has over Snap-On.  The teenage clerk at Sears
doesn't care.  You can take a broken tool in there that has obviously been
beaten with a sledge hammer and they'll give you a new one.  They used to
replace a worn out ratchet with a new one, but some years ago started
replacing the ratchet mechanism while you stood there and waited.  You stand
there and watch the clerk fumble around for 20 minutes trying to get the tool
back together.  I wonder if the practice is really more cost effective than
simply giving you a new ratchet.  :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 24, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Won't buy Snap-On ever again, since our local guy refuses to warranty the
tools. Had a strap wrench that the thread failed, he shrugged his shoulders,
and tried to sell me a new one.
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> Snap-On tools - "You can buy better, but you can't pay more", says my
little
> brother (a mechanic for almost 40 years).  :-)
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Nov 24, 2012, at 11:56 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just pick some that look well constructed.  My rule for HF ratings is
divide
> by two.  If they say 6 ton, then they are probably safe for 3 tons.  Like
with
> other tools you can get a feel for what is better quality.  If you have a
good
> Snap-On wrench, for example, and a regular Craftsman wrench you can tell
after
> using them both for a while which one is better.
> ------------------------
>
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From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 10:57:18 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:57:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about VB dashes
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

I'm hoping someone can answer my question. I'm looking at the Dash
Face Replacement listed in the VB catalog. By their diagram I cannot
tell if it's a vinyl & pad that installs over the steel dash or it's a
complete steel dash.

Has anyone ever ordered/looked at one? The vinyl dash I'm working on
needs to be completely refaced.

Jody

-- 
http://www.theymightberacing.com/

1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From jfishbein at snet.net  Sun Nov 25 11:25:26 2012
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:25:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about VB dashes
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <72856326-37AF-43C4-930C-BF75CCC9E132@snet.net>

That would be a pad that fits over the top of the dash to hide the cracked
areas.

Jay

On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jody Kerr <jodyfkerr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> I'm hoping someone can answer my question. I'm looking at the Dash
> Face Replacement listed in the VB catalog. By their diagram I cannot
> tell if it's a vinyl & pad that installs over the steel dash or it's a
> complete steel dash.

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun Nov 25 12:33:55 2012
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:33:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: ..... HELP-Bugeye Dash Stolen -Pacific Northwest
References: <k8rsj7+k72f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <C4FF3F94-7589-442F-BA3C-26E63D9FE0E6@gerardsgarage.com>

I'm reposting this message to a variety of groups where I know there are a
significant number of British car enthusiasts in the Pacific Northwest.

Reposted with his permission, Paul lives in the Tacoma Washington area. In the
past, having a "lots of eyes" out there has sometimes led to recovery of
stolen items. Original message below:

Begin forwarded message:

> Today, mid day, I returned home from shopping, only to find that my house
had been broken into. Among the things that were stolen was my laptop and my
COMPLETLY REFURBISHED BUGEYE DASHBOARD. I had it in my house for
safekeeping(how smart am I)? I live in the Tacoma, Federal Way area of WA.
> First, I would like everyone to be on the lookout for it. Craigs list etc.
> And secondly I need some help on estimating the value of a completely
refurbed dash, complete with all switches, gauges and new vinyl covering AH
Spares. This will be the first thing the insurance company will ask.
>
> Thank you, Paul
>
> Best to send me an e-mail: montpaul at msn.com

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 13:07:36 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:07:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about VB dashes
In-Reply-To: <72856326-37AF-43C4-930C-BF75CCC9E132@snet.net>
References: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>
	<72856326-37AF-43C4-930C-BF75CCC9E132@snet.net>
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFYyuWYRr7kUXUR7A288pxpmqKMjwNqcMzbq3r0KRW3hpQ@mail.gmail.com>

That's the upper cover. I'm referring to the lower section that's
listed for ~$400.00. It's the front face of the dash. I can't tell if
it's vinyl/padding only.

Jody

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> That would be a pad that fits over the top of the dash to hide the cracked
> areas.
>
> Jay
>
> On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jody Kerr <jodyfkerr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I'm hoping someone can answer my question. I'm looking at the Dash
>> Face Replacement listed in the VB catalog. By their diagram I cannot
>> tell if it's a vinyl & pad that installs over the steel dash or it's a
>> complete steel dash.
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1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
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from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
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From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Sun Nov 25 14:23:59 2012
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:23:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about VB dashes
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50B28C6F.9030304@bellsouth.net>

Call VB and ask them!

On 11/25/2012 12:57 PM, Jody Kerr wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm hoping someone can answer my question. I'm looking at the Dash
> Face Replacement listed in the VB catalog. By their diagram I cannot
> tell if it's a vinyl & pad that installs over the steel dash or it's a
> complete steel dash.
>
> Has anyone ever ordered/looked at one? The vinyl dash I'm working on
> needs to be completely refaced.
>
> Jody

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 15:03:47 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:03:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about VB dashes
In-Reply-To: <50B28C6F.9030304@bellsouth.net>
References: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>
	<50B28C6F.9030304@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFZ3kPbnuCCZ+MVrqAhvmQdBOVxOYV86zM_rO7qfnYdjUQ@mail.gmail.com>

I will tomorrow.

Though, I don't know if it's just me, but I seem to get routed to
India when I call them.

Jody

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Call VB and ask them!
>
>
> On 11/25/2012 12:57 PM, Jody Kerr wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I'm hoping someone can answer my question. I'm looking at the Dash
>> Face Replacement listed in the VB catalog. By their diagram I cannot
>> tell if it's a vinyl & pad that installs over the steel dash or it's a
>> complete steel dash.
>>
>> Has anyone ever ordered/looked at one? The vinyl dash I'm working on
>> needs to be completely refaced.
>>
>> Jody
>
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1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 25 15:32:33 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:32:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about VB dashes
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFZ3kPbnuCCZ+MVrqAhvmQdBOVxOYV86zM_rO7qfnYdjUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFaRQLTBaZcsTy6fwAw50VKY1fAWiHP-oRRemEp+y4NzpA@mail.gmail.com>
	<50B28C6F.9030304@bellsouth.net>
	<CAO2WPFZ3kPbnuCCZ+MVrqAhvmQdBOVxOYV86zM_rO7qfnYdjUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1353882753.47365.YahooMailNeo@web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

This thread should help: 
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1561195,page=1  


 
Rick
"Madman in a death machine"
Follow My Nasty Boy Build:
http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo


________________________________
 From: Jody Kerr
<jodyfkerr at gmail.com>
To: Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net> 
Cc:
spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Question about VB dashes
 
I will tomorrow.

Though, I don't know
if it's just me, but I seem to get routed to
India when I call them.

Jody

On
Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Call
VB and ask them!
>
>
> On 11/25/2012 12:57 PM, Jody Kerr wrote:
>>
>> Hey
folks,
>>
>> I'm hoping someone can answer my question. I'm looking at the
Dash
>> Face Replacement listed in the VB catalog. By their diagram I cannot
>> tell if it's a vinyl & pad that installs over the steel dash or it's a
>>
complete steel dash.
>>
>> Has anyone ever ordered/looked at one? The vinyl
dash I'm working on
>> needs to be completely refaced.
>>
>> Jody
>
>
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Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen
Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
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are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of
others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams
------------------------

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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Nov 25 17:20:59 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:20:59 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
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References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121113200040.97C8A8AC1A@lambda.wi.net>
	<52890.173.111.13.206.1352949576.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121116002458.00FF32D0962@autox.team.net>
	<D3159C89-4EA5-430C-B629-50A1EA83089C@chartermi.net>
	<37033.173.111.143.23.1353040708.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<4CDFE49C-9548-4B6B-95D9-98B89E622B30@chartermi.net>
	<44038.173.122.231.238.1353736679.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<BF465CBB-8702-44C8-98DA-DFE2F91FA0EA@chartermi.net>
	<TSLW1k02B0KnVcD04SLWEv@email.mtu.edu>
	<CE0224D3-8248-4FAB-8712-750B8EB11788@chartermi.net>
	<CAEAAx7-w6qJoWzTD3hZXtNMKMK7GyGX5LFuyDXmys7FpGUq+7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <34874.173.108.37.215.1353889259.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Great advice!  Thanks!

Dave W.



>
Just pick some that look well constructed.  My rule for HF ratings is
> divide by two.  If they say 6 ton, then they are probably safe for
3 tons.
> Like with other tools you can get a feel for what is
better quality.  If
> you have a good Snap-On wrench, for example,
and a regular Craftsman
> wrench
> you can tell after
using them both for a while which one is better.
> 
> For
jack stands you have three choices:
> Import, like HF, decent
quality, low price, functional.
> USA made, like OTC, US Jack,
Hein Werner.  Good quality, high priced,
> bullet proof.
>
Custom made, tell a fabricator what you want have them made. Quality is
as
> good as the fabricator, high priced.
> 
> I
use HF/Craftsman, same quality level to me.  If I was a professional
> mechanic some of my tools would be higher quality choices and I'd
probably
> have USA made jack stands.  But, the imports work as
well for my needs. 
> My
> buddy works on military trucks
sometimes so we either buy USA made stuff
> or
> make them
as needed for his shop.
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From trishasauthoff at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 26 08:55:22 2012
From: trishasauthoff at yahoo.com (Patricia Sauthoff)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:55:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] 52
Message-ID: <1353945322.21691.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

http://1st-us-cavalry.de/answers.google.php?yxmeqqg=970&giv=08&gz=

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 26 09:25:08 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:25:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheap tools
Message-ID: <1353947108.24960.YahooMailNeo@web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

192 pc Craftsman mechanics tool set for $99 on cyber-Monday :
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00933192000P?vName=Tools&cName=Mecha
nics&AutoTools&sName=Mechanics%20Tool%20Setsmv=rr  


Not as good as Snap-On
but better than Harbor Freight.  

 
Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
Follow
My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From Tommy.Samuels at dayco.com  Mon Nov 26 12:47:26 2012
From: Tommy.Samuels at dayco.com (Tommy Samuels)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Found a donor for my Lotus 7 project
Message-ID: <32C0ACF4CDD0B74A8C354D73F64757E418F08305@AM-EXCHMBX1.dayco.local>

I know this is totally off topic as far as Spridgets go, but I thought I'd let
you guys know I found a suitable starting point and a good donor.

I bought a Centaur 7 kit from Lance Crain at Pirate 7.  It's not traditional
for a Lotus 7 as it uses a sheet steel monocoque instead of a tube frame.  It
goes together FAST and it's very strong.  I add a bit of square tube for extra
reinforcement in a few key points and the fun begins.

The donor I finally found is an old Toyota Liftback with the 1.6 liter 2TC
engine coupled to a 5 speed.  It should make a 1400 lb car scoot along pretty
well.

Tight Lines,
Tommy
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 26 14:26:37 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:26:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Found a donor for my Lotus 7 project
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I'm sorry, I read the statement after your signature and wee'd myself.  I'm
afraid men in black Suburbans will come for me if I do the wrong thing with
your transmission

 
Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
Follow My Nasty Boy
Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo


________________________________
 From:
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Subject:
[Spridgets] Found a donor for my Lotus 7 project
 
I know this is totally off
topic as far as Spridgets go, but I thought I'd let
you guys know I found a
suitable starting point and a good donor.



Tight Lines,
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 20:22:34 2012
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:22:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <37033.173.111.143.23.1353040708.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <32852.173.111.83.155.1352771987.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<20121113200040.97C8A8AC1A@lambda.wi.net>
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They look like they could hold at least 1/2 dozen bugeyes at the same time!!

Steve

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:38 PM, <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Me too.  Been using them for decades.  Got from K Mart.
> Can't find anything similar, with a saddle, for putting under the frame or
> a flat area.  The Esco 10498 looks interesting, any thoughts?
> http://www.mile-x.com/Esco-10498-3-Ton-Jack-Stand.aspx
>
> Dave
> W.
>
>
>
>
> > The tub for my '61 Sprite is
> currently sitting on 4 of the tube type
> > stands
> > that I
> bought in the late 60's.  Have to use vintage jack stands for
> >
> vintage
> > vehicles.  :-)
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > Sent from my keyboard
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2012, at 8:53
> AM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>
> Dave,
> >> I didn't know that they weren't available. I did a
> search and found
> >> something similar at: made-in-china.com --
> of course. However, those
> >> are a bit better construction than
> the ones I tested since the strap
> >> that holds the legs from
> spreading in welded on the bottom of the
> >> stand to form a
> base. The ones I tested had the strap on the side of
> >> the
> legs so the stand was supported on the edge of the tubing. I
> >>
> suppose the tube stands were just to cheap to make much of a profit.
> >> I have 4 tube type that I use from time to time.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> http://yetengtool.en.made-in-china.com/product/obOQYerPbmDN/China-Jack-Stand-
> > JJ027-.html
> >>
> >> At 10:19 PM 11/14/2012,
> dwoerpel at wi.net wrote:
> >>> Very cool Tim.  So why can't I
> find any of those tube type stands
> >>> anymore?  Most are of
> the narrow cradle-type axle stands and any
> >>> saddle type
> are $150ea.  Weird.
> >>> Dave W.
> >>
> >>
> Tim Collins
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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 27 12:13:00 2012
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:13:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Magazine Advertisements on e-Bay
Message-ID: <1354043580.27864.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I am liquidating some of my Bugeye documentation.  I had several books on
e-Bay a while back but no one seemed to be interested in them.  Now I have 19
vintage magazine advertisements on there if anybody is looking for some. 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Nov 27 12:37:13 2012
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:37:13 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel grades, now jack stands
In-Reply-To: <CAF3a=7+0Bqh6XZe=SK1Ram8gmiEWQZjCB286dXoNpLHNMtTTsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCDA5669.20C4A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> They look like they could hold at least 1/2 dozen bugeyes at the same time!!
On one stand. If you put four stands under the cars, you should be able to
stack at least 30. If you derate them by 50%, you're still OK with up to 15
Bugeyes, as long as your stack doesn't topple over.  How much overkill is
enough for you? 

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 18:46:08 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:46:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] AH Green vs. Morris green
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFbm=Xwfa9cqtLwXTm4RcQ4B7J6N6JjH5deagFwqtpgQDA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Folks,

I was reading through the AH Sprite Concours guide today and I noted
that for our Sprite (MKIV) the engine paint color is the same green as
was on the AH 3000. In other sections, some parts for all Sprites are
listed as being "Morris Green."

Are these the same colors? If they are different does anyone have the
modern equivalent of the Morris Green color codes handy?

Many thanks!
Jody

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1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 19:05:48 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:05:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] AH Green vs. Morris green
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFbm=Xwfa9cqtLwXTm4RcQ4B7J6N6JjH5deagFwqtpgQDA@mail.gmail.com>
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I think the badges were gold.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Nov 27 19:30:20 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:30:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
Message-ID: <mailman.14.1354069781.32080.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I have been working on an engine hot test stand using whatever I had 
in the garage in the way of salvaged materials. The basic frame is 
made from steel framing studs that I picked out of a construction 
dumpster. I guess you could say I made it out of 2x4's except they 
are steel. Most folks would have gone for larger steel tubing but a 
goal was to use what I had and to practice my welding skills on thin 
steel materials.

I have a set of pics on Flickr at: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/72157632115840269/
These pics show the construction from many stages of construction and 
from various angles.

The project is to the point that I have to dress out the engine, 
plumb the wet lines, and hook up the electrical, controls, and 
gauges  (which I don't have yet).

Don't ask why. This is just a project to keep me busy. I plan to use 
it to practice my tune up skills and this setup makes it easier to 
fiddle around with the distributor and other stuff. The engine is an 
"extra" that I picked up in a parts purchase so a test stand will let 
me assess the "health" of the engine.

Tim Collins

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 27 19:46:46 2012
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:46:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <20121128022943.68824438EA@autox.team.net>
References: <20121128022943.68824438EA@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E5066B7EA9D14C7C946990FA38C14C0C@HomePC>

Nice job, Tim!

Looks great!



-----Original Message----- 
From: Tim Collins
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:30 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand

I have been working on an engine hot test stand using whatever I had
in the garage in the way of salvaged materials. The basic frame is
made from steel framing studs that I picked out of a construction
dumpster. I guess you could say I made it out of 2x4's except they
are steel. Most folks would have gone for larger steel tubing but a
goal was to use what I had and to practice my welding skills on thin
steel materials.

I have a set of pics on Flickr at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/72157632115840269/
These pics show the construction from many stages of construction and
from various angles.

The project is to the point that I have to dress out the engine,
plumb the wet lines, and hook up the electrical, controls, and
gauges  (which I don't have yet).

Don't ask why. This is just a project to keep me busy. I plan to use
it to practice my tune up skills and this setup makes it easier to
fiddle around with the distributor and other stuff. The engine is an
"extra" that I picked up in a parts purchase so a test stand will let
me assess the "health" of the engine.

Tim Collins
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Nov 27 20:17:20 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:17:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <20121128022943.5D632438E7@autox.team.net>
References: <20121128022943.5D632438E7@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <92D5B20B-E27A-4AF5-B419-87EF22C5939D@chartermi.net>

Looks good Tim.  Now you need to build a dyno to attach to the back of the
engine for some serious testing.

BTW, where is all the rest of the crap that's supposed to be in your garage?
Mine looked like your's the day we moved in.  Twenty years later I have to
leave a trail of breadcrumbs to find my way back out.   :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> I have been working on an engine hot test stand using whatever I had in the
garage in the way of salvaged materials. The basic frame is made from steel
framing studs that I picked out of a construction dumpster. I guess you could
say I made it out of 2x4's except they are steel. Most folks would have gone
for larger steel tubing but a goal was to use what I had and to practice my
welding skills on thin steel materials.
>
> I have a set of pics on Flickr at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/72157632115840269/
> These pics show the construction from many stages of construction and from
various angles.
>
> The project is to the point that I have to dress out the engine, plumb the
wet lines, and hook up the electrical, controls, and gauges  (which I don't
have yet).
>
> Don't ask why. This is just a project to keep me busy. I plan to use it to
practice my tune up skills and this setup makes it easier to fiddle around
with the distributor and other stuff. The engine is an "extra" that I picked
up in a parts purchase so a test stand will let me assess the "health" of the
engine.
>
> Tim Collins
> ------------------------

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov 27 20:44:16 2012
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:44:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels
Message-ID: <50B58890.4050907@bellsouth.net>

Well, my '73 Midget is close to being back on the road after a long 
engine and hydraulic system rebuild. I do need new wire wheels as mine 
were bent out of true when the local tire shop mounted them using the 
wrong equipment and the tires are hard as rocks.

Who would you all recommend I buy the wire wheels from? Any bargains out 
there? I hate to use VB or Moss just on general principles and Coker's 
prices were way out of line. They did specify bands and tubes with the 
painted wheels and neither with chrome wheels. The chrome wheels ended 
up being cheaper than the painted ones with the bands and tubes. Seems 
strange to me. Anybody know why chrome wheels don't need tubes and 
painted ones do?

How about tires? The old ones are 175/70-13 BFG and they fit and looked 
good and didn't rub on the RWAs.

Thanks in advance for your recommendations,

Bob

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Tue Nov 27 21:55:13 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:55:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <92D5B20B-E27A-4AF5-B419-87EF22C5939D@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <1354078513.14199.YahooMailClassic@web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

My car is my test stand.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Nov 27 22:16:52 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:16:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels
In-Reply-To: <50B58890.4050907@bellsouth.net>
References: <50B58890.4050907@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15F4C3E9D9C84DC5AF80B76BE965919C@leosHP>

I donbt know about what chrome wire wheels you were looking at byt the 
dayton chrome wire wheels on the BJ8 I just bought have tubes and bands... 
Every www wheel I have seen, chrome or painted, has had tubes and bands 
EXCEPT for a WW they make that is tubeless but the price is astronomical and 
the individual o rings they use on each spoke must become a nightmare 
sometime down the road.

Leo

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bob Spruck
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 9:44 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels

Well, my '73 Midget is close to being back on the road after a long
engine and hydraulic system rebuild. I do need new wire wheels as mine
were bent out of true when the local tire shop mounted them using the
wrong equipment and the tires are hard as rocks.

Who would you all recommend I buy the wire wheels from? Any bargains out
there? I hate to use VB or Moss just on general principles and Coker's
prices were way out of line. They did specify bands and tubes with the
painted wheels and neither with chrome wheels. The chrome wheels ended
up being cheaper than the painted ones with the bands and tubes. Seems
strange to me. Anybody know why chrome wheels don't need tubes and
painted ones do?

How about tires? The old ones are 175/70-13 BFG and they fit and looked
good and didn't rub on the RWAs.

Thanks in advance for your recommendations,

Bob
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 27 22:19:32 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:19:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels
In-Reply-To: <50B58890.4050907@bellsouth.net>
References: <50B58890.4050907@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <5816FB102E214BEBA833565B25B40E75@blackbox2>

New wire wheels are not going to be inexpensive, no matter where you go.
I prefer the painted wheels over the chrome. But that's just me.

I could not find anybody to mount wires wheels.  So I learned how to do it 
myself.  Given your experience it sounds like I made the right choice.  

It is actually easier than I thought it would be.  I did it with two tire
irons from harbor freight.  I mounted a spare axle half shaft in the bench
vise pointed up, and used it to hold the wheel while I mounted the tire.    

The least expensive approach is to refurb old wheels, but it is a lot of
work.  It entails buying a multitude of used wire wheels (craigslist, flea
markets, etc) and picking out the best of the lot.  I am amazed at how many
used wire wheels I find at rock bottom prices on Craigslist.  Somebody
actually gave me a wire wheel at a car show this past year.  

People talk about "truing" lbc wire wheels like they were bicycle wheels.
It's a total fallacy.  I never happens.    

The ones that I have found to be out of true were because somebody hit them
on the curb.  In other words, the rims get bent.  I have not seen the case
where the rim was out of line with the hub where spoke truing could be
applied.  And "oh by the way", I've laced my own custom bicycle wheels, so I
know what is involved here (I was taught how to true a motorcycle wheel by
an elderly Italian motorcycle mechanic back in the early 80's).

So I spent quite a bit of time, "unbending" some of the rims I had acquired.
I did it on a cast iron table saw top.  Big "C" clamps, sledge hammer,
whatever it took.  I rigged up two wooden blocks with holes to mount an axle
half shaft. This allowed me to spin the wheels and test for trueness.  

Loose and broken spokes are a little more common.  For this reason the worst
wheel of the lot is turned into the "spoke donor".  We do this because
spokes purchased from the suppliers are very expensive. 

Of course, sand blasting, chemical paint stripping, primering and painting
are also involved.  But this is a hobby..yes?

From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Nov 27 22:35:53 2012
From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:35:53 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] AH Green vs. Morris green
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFbm=Xwfa9cqtLwXTm4RcQ4B7J6N6JjH5deagFwqtpgQDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFbm=Xwfa9cqtLwXTm4RcQ4B7J6N6JjH5deagFwqtpgQDA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F515D715-2A3D-4237-9532-FFF0BFBFD48F@me.com>

The MKIV and Healey 3000 engine paint is a "Metallic" green as where the earlier cars were a solid green.  Sorry I do not have the paint codes.


Bob and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes

On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Jody Kerr wrote:

> Hey Folks,
> 
> I was reading through the AH Sprite Concours guide today and I noted
> that for our Sprite (MKIV) the engine paint color is the same green as
> was on the AH 3000. In other sections, some parts for all Sprites are
> listed as being "Morris Green."
> 
> Are these the same colors? If they are different does anyone have the
> modern equivalent of the Morris Green color codes handy?
> 
> Many thanks!
> Jody
> 
> -- 
> http://www.theymightberacing.com/
> 
> 1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
> 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
> 1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
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> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so."
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 27 22:36:41 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:36:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels
In-Reply-To: <15F4C3E9D9C84DC5AF80B76BE965919C@leosHP>
References: <50B58890.4050907@bellsouth.net>
	<15F4C3E9D9C84DC5AF80B76BE965919C@leosHP>
Message-ID: <D66A4980615B4E488D902D71642489DF@blackbox2>

Yep,

The best inner tubes are, Kenda, Michelin, and those really exspensive ones
from the
UK that have the outside threads on the valvestem so you can lock the
valvestem into position.

NAPA used to sell the Kenda's at a bargain price of $14. But I went back to
order two more and
they raised the price and I got one Kenda and something else from China.

Moss's inner tubes suck.

Just from these developments alone we can see that the world is going to
hell in a handbasket.

I have the same issue trying to find decent bicycle inner tubes BTW.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 60bugeye at cebridge.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:17 AM
To: Bob Spruck; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels

I donbt know about what chrome wire wheels you were looking at byt the
dayton chrome wire wheels on the BJ8 I just bought have tubes and bands...
Every www wheel I have seen, chrome or painted, has had tubes and bands
EXCEPT for a WW they make that is tubeless but the price is astronomical and
the individual o rings they use on each spoke must become a nightmare
sometime down the road.

Leo

From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Nov 27 22:40:40 2012
From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:40:40 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <20121128022952.A734C438F6@autox.team.net>
References: <20121128022952.A734C438F6@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <0C3D370B-05E7-4636-BA12-6219BEB63FAD@me.com>

Very nice Tim.


Oh for the days when I had stuff laying around the garage with which to build things.


Bob and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 03:16:46 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 04:16:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels
In-Reply-To: <D66A4980615B4E488D902D71642489DF@blackbox2>
References: <50B58890.4050907@bellsouth.net>
	<15F4C3E9D9C84DC5AF80B76BE965919C@leosHP>
	<D66A4980615B4E488D902D71642489DF@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r9kvNvCAPsT3g3b3hXavSepr-X551MZcy78vMHBJrHCBw@mail.gmail.com>

There are no longer any decent bicycle inner tubes any more. I have
purchased barn find bikes, that the tubes will STILL hold air. Buy a tube
from Wal-Mart, or an expensive bike shop, and either of them will leak down
in 2 to 3 weeks.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Yep,
>
> The best inner tubes are, Kenda, Michelin, and those really exspensive ones
> from the
> UK that have the outside threads on the valvestem so you can lock the
> valvestem into position.
>
> NAPA used to sell the Kenda's at a bargain price of $14. But I went back to
> order two more and
> they raised the price and I got one Kenda and something else from China.
>
> Moss's inner tubes suck.
>
> Just from these developments alone we can see that the world is going to
> hell in a handbasket.
>
> I have the same issue trying to find decent bicycle inner tubes BTW.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> 60bugeye at cebridge.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:17 AM
> To: Bob Spruck; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels
>
> I donb t know about what chrome wire wheels you were looking at byt the
> dayton chrome wire wheels on the BJ8 I just bought have tubes and bands...
> Every www wheel I have seen, chrome or painted, has had tubes and bands
> EXCEPT for a WW they make that is tubeless but the price is astronomical
> and
> the individual o rings they use on each spoke must become a nightmare
> sometime down the road.
>
> Leo
> ------------------------
>
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From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Wed Nov 28 06:14:55 2012
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 05:14:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] AH Green vs. Morris green
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7-e_RP2+UxQVhq9=V=YyZyf78UV9G6hktdg0E8NgBMv1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFbm=Xwfa9cqtLwXTm4RcQ4B7J6N6JjH5deagFwqtpgQDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEAAx7-e_RP2+UxQVhq9=V=YyZyf78UV9G6hktdg0E8NgBMv1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1354108495.5019.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

NOPE.  They were most definitely chrome silver with red writing.
 
Anon.
________________________________
From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: Jody Kerr
<jodyfkerr at gmail.com> 
Cc: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent:
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] AH Green vs.
Morris green

I think the badges were gold.

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Nov 28 08:55:47 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:55:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] AH Green vs. Morris green
In-Reply-To: <1354108495.5019.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAO2WPFbm=Xwfa9cqtLwXTm4RcQ4B7J6N6JjH5deagFwqtpgQDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEAAx7-e_RP2+UxQVhq9=V=YyZyf78UV9G6hktdg0E8NgBMv1A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1354108495.5019.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50B63403.8040203@justbrits.com>

/derf wrote:  "/I think the badges were gold./"
and
Anon wrote:  "/

NOPE.  They were most definitely chrome silver with red writing."


/But, but, but I //thought they are RED with Silver/Black ///Cloisonni 
inset, no ? ? ? ?

Anon Doubled

//

From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 09:56:53 2012
From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:56:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <1354078513.14199.YahooMailClassic@web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354078513.14199.YahooMailClassic@web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <160F8C66B8414CA08AAB962730690785@Snoopy>

Very nice Tim, and I second Ricks comment. Where's all the other junk that 
belongs in the garage.
Jeff Kelly

-----Original Message----- 
From: Michael MacLean
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Tim Collins ; Rick Fisk
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand

My car is my test stand.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 28 10:28:27 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:28:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <160F8C66B8414CA08AAB962730690785@Snoopy>
References: <1354078513.14199.YahooMailClassic@web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<160F8C66B8414CA08AAB962730690785@Snoopy>
Message-ID: <1354123707.88283.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

He's got it stored in Duquette's garage .


 
Rick


"Madman in a death
machine"
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________________________________
 From: JeffG-Mail <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com>
To:
Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>; Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>;
Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> 
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent:
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine Test
Stand
 
Very nice Tim, and I second Ricks comment. Where's all the other junk
that belongs in the garage.
Jeff Kelly

-----Original Message----- From:
Michael MacLean
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:55 PM
To: Tim Collins ;
Rick Fisk
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine Test
Stand

My car is my test stand.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage
Springer
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Nov 28 11:36:53 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:36:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Source for Wire Wheels
Message-ID: <45082.7373d687.3de7b3c5@aol.com>

I have MWS tubeless wire wheels and the spoke wells are sealed inside the  
rim using a mastic.  They are 5.5" wide.
 
 
In a message dated 28/11/2012 05:17:03 Coordinated Universal Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:

they  make that is tubeless but the price is astronomical and 
the individual o  rings they use on each spoke must become a nightmare 
sometime down the  road.

Leo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Nov 28 12:09:22 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:09:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
Message-ID: <4631f.3762325e.3de7bb62@aol.com>

I wish had room in my garage for something like that.
 
Are you going to rig up a clutch master cylinder and pedal so you can test  
the clutch?
 
I suppose you know you need blue hoses for the engine though I only have  
orange in stock....
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 28/11/2012 02:30:04 Coordinated Universal Time,  
thcollin at mtu.edu writes:

The  project is to the point that I have to dress out the engine, 
plumb the wet  lines, and hook up the electrical, controls, and 
gauges  (which I  don't have yet).

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Nov 28 12:17:10 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:17:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Projects update
Message-ID: <46729.13c40b57.3de7bd36@aol.com>

While I'm not doing those things that I ought be doing I thought I'd post a
 quick project update.

4 auxillary gauge dash - The first one has been in the car a while.   The
2nd one has an almost complete binnacle section.  I need to do the work  now
to get the main part of the dash ready for the slightly longer binnacle
section.  I can't see this happening in the next week or so.

Lightened door striker plates (late type) - I finished 2 more the other
evening so have 4 finished + 2 on the car.  Of the 2 I am working on one is
close to being finished.  The dilemma is whether to see if I can get some
more really cheap and lighten those as well so I have a bigger batch to take
to  the platers, or just take a half dozen.  Plating cost will be #30+ based
on  the price the last time I asked.

Panhard rod - The new tower from Speedwell (Tom Colby) is on the  car and
the 2nd bracket for the axle pickup has been welded and also on the  car.
The rod is now level and the first drive with the old rod end  bearings felt
ok though admittedly the roads were wet and I didn't push  on.  I've since
fitted Aurora rod end bearings which are a superior design  to the old ones.
I've also fitted them with 'Seals-it' seals and just need  a nice dry day
for a test drive.

Weslake-Monza 1330

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Nov 28 12:34:46 2012
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:34:46 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <160F8C66B8414CA08AAB962730690785@Snoopy>
Message-ID: <CCDBA756.3555C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

And why is the engine blue?

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Nov 28 12:49:13 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:49:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <CCDBA756.3555C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <160F8C66B8414CA08AAB962730690785@Snoopy>
	<CCDBA756.3555C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.15.1354132131.32080.spridgets@autox.team.net>

At 02:34 PM 11/28/2012, Billy Zoom wrote:
>And why is the engine blue?

In keeping with the philosophy of "use what you already have" I used 
Ford Blue paint left over from a time when I owned a Ford Tractor.

The 1098cc engine in my Sprite is the proper shade of green using 
paint I bought from Paul A.  When I restored the Sprite I bought what 
I needed to do a proper job. This spare engine doesn't get the same 
degree of respect! LOL


Tim Collins

From tmheffron at aol.com  Wed Nov 28 15:32:28 2012
From: tmheffron at aol.com (Tmheffron)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:32:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
Message-ID: <2yii0nsnh7kh8x1bb9288375.1354141948992@email.android.com>

And I thought it was blue because it's best woman left left on the rain...

Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

>At 02:34 PM 11/28/2012, Billy Zoom wrote:
>>And why is the engine blue?
>
>In keeping with the philosophy of "use what you already have" I used 
>Ford Blue paint left over from a time when I owned a Ford Tractor.
>
>The 1098cc engine in my Sprite is the proper shade of green using 
>paint I bought from Paul A.  When I restored the Sprite I bought what 
>I needed to do a proper job. This spare engine doesn't get the same 
>degree of respect! LOL
>
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Nov 28 18:49:22 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:49:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Test Stand
In-Reply-To: <CCDBA756.3555C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <CCDBA756.3555C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP100F547514365FEFCB62151B85C0@phx.gbl>

The garage is cold?  ;)

Robert
Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.

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> And why is the engine blue?
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Nov 28 19:04:39 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:04:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Projects update
In-Reply-To: <46729.13c40b57.3de7bd36@aol.com>
References: <46729.13c40b57.3de7bd36@aol.com>
Message-ID: <41D22F28866F4BDF940238FD9D8A9642@blackbox2>

I had to look up what Daniel was talking about...
http://www.sealsit.com/rodend.asp


I'm thinking a panhard rod on the Bugeye would be a good idea.
Not only for the improved handling but it might reduce the wear and tear on
the 1/4 elliptic springs by reducing the side swaying.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:17 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Projects update

While I'm not doing those things that I ought be doing I thought I'd post a
 quick project update.

4 auxillary gauge dash - The first one has been in the car a while.   The
2nd one has an almost complete binnacle section.  I need to do the work  now
to get the main part of the dash ready for the slightly longer binnacle
section.  I can't see this happening in the next week or so.

Lightened door striker plates (late type) - I finished 2 more the other
evening so have 4 finished + 2 on the car.  Of the 2 I am working on one is
close to being finished.  The dilemma is whether to see if I can get some
more really cheap and lighten those as well so I have a bigger batch to take
to  the platers, or just take a half dozen.  Plating cost will be #30+ based
on  the price the last time I asked.

Panhard rod - The new tower from Speedwell (Tom Colby) is on the  car and
the 2nd bracket for the axle pickup has been welded and also on the  car.
The rod is now level and the first drive with the old rod end  bearings felt
ok though admittedly the roads were wet and I didn't push  on.  I've since
fitted Aurora rod end bearings which are a superior design  to the old ones.
I've also fitted them with 'Seals-it' seals and just need  a nice dry day
for a test drive.

Weslake-Monza 1330

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 02:06:58 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:06:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Projects update
In-Reply-To: <41D22F28866F4BDF940238FD9D8A9642@blackbox2>
References: <46729.13c40b57.3de7bd36@aol.com>
	<41D22F28866F4BDF940238FD9D8A9642@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVdfo3uUE17+b50tH7ZggmonFGqQUC-eD3VpKXbjhfnJWA@mail.gmail.com>

Very interesting Dean I hadn't thought that the 1/4 elliptic springs
swaying. Keep us updated on that.
Lin

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> http://www.sealsit.com/rodend.asp

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Nov 29 08:10:06 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:10:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack Stands on sale
Message-ID: <mailman.16.1354201782.32080.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I just noticed that Northern Tool & Equipment has the Torin jack 
stands, 3 ton capacity, double locking ratchet action, 4 legs, on 
sale for "Cyber week" at the price of $17.99 - offer good thru 12/2/12.
NorthernTool.com


Tim Collins

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Nov 29 08:47:07 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:47:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
Message-ID: <20121129154712.8F954F4402C@mx2.netinteraction.com>

... thought I'd share. A long-time customer just came in to pickup CV 
boots for his VW Bus pickup, which are cool on their own.

His, however, has a Ford Ranger V6 in the back. Cramped but neat 
installation.  The real curiosity to me was his dashboard....

As the Ford required all of the electronic dashboard gimickry, and he 
wanted to retain the stock dash, he installed the Ford dash crap 
under the pickup bed, and installed a back-up camera that plays to a 
small screen velcroed to the dash!

Back to your coffee.

Peter C

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Nov 29 08:53:46 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:53:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
In-Reply-To: <20121129154712.8F954F4402C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20121129154712.8F954F4402C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <50B7850A.9010407@justbrits.com>

Pictures Peter, PICTURES ! ! ! !

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Nov 29 09:08:00 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:08:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
In-Reply-To: <50B7850A.9010407@justbrits.com>
References: <20121129154712.8F954F4402C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<50B7850A.9010407@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <20121129160806.70F09F440E9@mx2.netinteraction.com>

No Ed, NO! ! ! !

At 09:53 AM 11/29/2012, \" Just Brits \" Shop wrote:
>Pictures Peter, PICTURES ! ! ! !
>------------------------

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 15:49:01 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:49:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

I'm trying to find a vendor in the US that sells the yellow Coopers
decals for the air filter assemblies. I've searched all over for them,
and can't seem to find a source. I could have sworn that Moss carries
them, but I couldn't find them on their site. Does anyone else on the
list know where I can get some?

And yes Ed, I tried searching the archives, it's broken right now.

Jody

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1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
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from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Nov 29 17:43:20 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:43:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AEC824A7-6682-44D5-9591-149A5417BDB3@chartermi.net>

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=57012&SortOrder
=1


Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Jody Kerr <jodyfkerr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm trying to find a vendor in the US that sells the yellow Coopers
> decals for the air filter assemblies. I've searched all over for them,
> and can't seem to find a source. I could have sworn that Moss carries
> them, but I couldn't find them on their site. Does anyone else on the
> list know where I can get some?
>
> And yes Ed, I tried searching the archives, it's broken right now.
>
> Jody
>
> --
> http://www.theymightberacing.com/
>
> 1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
> 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
> 1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so."
> --Douglas Adams
> ------------------------

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Nov 29 17:49:53 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:49:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels
In-Reply-To: <AEC824A7-6682-44D5-9591-149A5417BDB3@chartermi.net>
References: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AEC824A7-6682-44D5-9591-149A5417BDB3@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <50B802B1.3030904@justbrits.com>

Whose are white, Rick.  Jody is looking for the later yellow which I 
haven't seen in decades.

Ed

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 18:05:34 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:05:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels
In-Reply-To: <50B802B1.3030904@justbrits.com>
References: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AEC824A7-6682-44D5-9591-149A5417BDB3@chartermi.net>
	<50B802B1.3030904@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFbi6AnQjEKm3kGRPW1C4xKECHg8VaPSPytsY-WHYbYWHw@mail.gmail.com>

Ed is correct. I'm looking for these decals:
http://www.minisport.com/mini-spare-parts/info_LMG1044.html

I could have sworn that I saw them at one of the vendors recently, but
I've also got 8 different cars going at the moment, so confusion is a
way of life around here. :)

I can get them from the UK but the shipping costs more than twice what
the decals do, so I'm hoping to find a US source instead.

Jody

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM, " Just Brits " Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> Whose are white, Rick.  Jody is looking for the later yellow which I haven't
> seen in decades.
>
> Ed
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Nov 29 18:15:27 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:15:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels
In-Reply-To: <50B802B1.3030904@justbrits.com>
References: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AEC824A7-6682-44D5-9591-149A5417BDB3@chartermi.net>
	<50B802B1.3030904@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <2F426BEB-2DF9-48A8-8F07-5D86CE22C2DA@chartermi.net>

The decals in the Moss picture are for a Bugeye - note the "Austin" sticker.
They also list two sets of decals for Midgets from '61 to '69 on the same
page.


Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
wrote:

> Whose are white, Rick.  Jody is looking for the later yellow which I haven't
seen in decades.
>
> Ed
> ------------------------

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 18:23:42 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:23:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels
In-Reply-To: <2F426BEB-2DF9-48A8-8F07-5D86CE22C2DA@chartermi.net>
References: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AEC824A7-6682-44D5-9591-149A5417BDB3@chartermi.net>
	<50B802B1.3030904@justbrits.com>
	<2F426BEB-2DF9-48A8-8F07-5D86CE22C2DA@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFYUZVGqQcrQhdBv2ECbLaJfTyaJAM6Dun3oti1Y4EnJhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

Thanks! It was only on my fourth reading of the page today that I
noted the year dates on the sets. Some days you just can't seem to win
no matter how hard you try. :)

I'll call Moss tomorrow and validate that they are the Yellow ones.
I'll need all the other decals during the restoration as well.

Jody

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> The decals in the Moss picture are for a Bugeye - note the "Austin" sticker.
> They also list two sets of decals for Midgets from '61 to '69 on the same
> page.
>
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Whose are white, Rick.  Jody is looking for the later yellow which I haven't
> seen in decades.
>>
>> Ed
>> ------------------------
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 19:24:09 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:24:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Wanted
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFYCrsKo649biXGmMEdhQyKyp=eoYsVDKjyhSO2NAApE0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Folks,

I'm searching for a number of used bits and bobs for our '69 AH Sprite
project. If anyone's looking to clean out their garage and/or
inventory i've got a link to the bits I presently need.

http://tinyurl.com/cozxwrc

Thanks!
Jody

-- 
http://www.theymightberacing.com/

1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Nov 30 08:04:42 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:04:42 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Projects update
Message-ID: <20121130.080442.13809.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

This was my thinking when I put the WC panhard rod on the MKII, since I was
intending on racing it, and didn't want to flare the rears too much (vintage
rules and all that).
What I've found (in my limited use so far) is that it does reduce the sway
side to side of the rear axle which translates into a reduced oversteer. That
being said, I also have a stock front swaybar and offset rear springs on the
MKII as well.
The upshot is that it has a much more neutral feel on entry, with the same
type of cornering speed and similar handling. It does, however FEEL like it
reaches the limit earlier than the BE, but I have no data to corroborate
that.
Wheel spacers are next on the MKII to balance the fender clearances, then a
new layshaft and bearings and its all cool.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016



I had to look up what Daniel was talking about...
http://www.sealsit.com/rodend.asp


I'm thinking a panhard rod on the Bugeye would be a good idea.
Not only for the improved handling but it might reduce the wear and tear on
the 1/4 elliptic springs by reducing the side swaying.



____________________________________________________________
Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...

From jodyfkerr at gmail.com  Fri Nov 30 08:59:35 2012
From: jodyfkerr at gmail.com (Jody Kerr)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels
In-Reply-To: <CAO2WPFYUZVGqQcrQhdBv2ECbLaJfTyaJAM6Dun3oti1Y4EnJhQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO2WPFao2jOS4qpGR4J4f8041xpbD6q-YL7ig73zBYpLwATWsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AEC824A7-6682-44D5-9591-149A5417BDB3@chartermi.net>
	<50B802B1.3030904@justbrits.com>
	<2F426BEB-2DF9-48A8-8F07-5D86CE22C2DA@chartermi.net>
	<CAO2WPFYUZVGqQcrQhdBv2ECbLaJfTyaJAM6Dun3oti1Y4EnJhQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO2WPFb2=+tmJY8D7D9Uxjv0ui4CK4Vp73bNv1i4T49wTAoTRA@mail.gmail.com>

Just to close the loop on this, the decal set sold by Moss Motors does
include the yellow Coopers decal.

Jody

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jody Kerr <jodyfkerr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Thanks! It was only on my fourth reading of the page today that I
> noted the year dates on the sets. Some days you just can't seem to win
> no matter how hard you try. :)
>
> I'll call Moss tomorrow and validate that they are the Yellow ones.
> I'll need all the other decals during the restoration as well.
>
> Jody
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>> The decals in the Moss picture are for a Bugeye - note the "Austin" sticker.
>> They also list two sets of decals for Midgets from '61 to '69 on the same
>> page.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my keyboard
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Whose are white, Rick.  Jody is looking for the later yellow which I haven't
>> seen in decades.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> ------------------------
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> http://www.theymightberacing.com/
>
> 1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
> 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
> 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
> 1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
> from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
> disinclination to do so."
> --Douglas Adams



-- 
http://www.theymightberacing.com/

1953 Studebaker Champion            1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479)
1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291)   1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854)
1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's)         1981 Triumph TR8
1970 MG MGB                               1980 Triumph TR7
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so."
--Douglas Adams

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Nov 30 10:17:50 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:17:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
In-Reply-To: <20121129160806.70F09F440E9@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20121129154712.8F954F4402C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<50B7850A.9010407@justbrits.com>
	<20121129160806.70F09F440E9@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <50B8EA3E.6040401@justbrits.com>

<< On 11/29/2012 10:08 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

         No Ed, NO! ! ! ! >>

L'dMAO at above, Peter ! ! !    THANKS ! ! !

Since I somewhat have Listers' "attention, "I" would like to ask a 
favour" ;-) >>

PLEASE 'Edit' your "Reply All:" ! ! !

In this case, I received TWO (2) of Peter's reply; and the "Subject: 
Re: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels" yielded FIVE (5) dups (that I 
-or anyone else<G>- received ! ! !
It only adds a second or two to EDIT the "To:" or "CC to:" ! ! !

Ref the "Coopers..." message, Jody got THREE (3) 'extras' and Rick F. 
TWO 'extras'.

I realize (and KNOW :-D ) some of you are just saying "Use the Delete 
key, Ed! and yes I could BUT in trying to do so I HAVE deleted a wrong 
Posts ! ! ! THAT becomes a PITA.

T.I.A. ! ! !

Ed

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Nov 30 10:33:35 2012
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:33:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
In-Reply-To: <50B8EA3E.6040401@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <20121130173335.59C12.45521.root@hrndva-web10-z02>

may I be the first to say its going to be a long winter.

Chris 
---- "" Just Brits " Shop" <shop at justbrits.com> wrote: 
> << On 11/29/2012 10:08 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote:
> 
>          No Ed, NO! ! ! ! >>
> 
> L'dMAO at above, Peter ! ! !    THANKS ! ! !
> 
> Since I somewhat have Listers' "attention, "I" would like to ask a 
> favour" ;-) >>
> 
> PLEASE 'Edit' your "Reply All:" ! ! !
> 
> In this case, I received TWO (2) of Peter's reply; and the "Subject: 
> Re: [Spridgets] Coopers Yellow labels" yielded FIVE (5) dups (that I 
> -or anyone else<G>- received ! ! !
> It only adds a second or two to EDIT the "To:" or "CC to:" ! ! !
> 
> Ref the "Coopers..." message, Jody got THREE (3) 'extras' and Rick F. 
> TWO 'extras'.
> 
> I realize (and KNOW :-D ) some of you are just saying "Use the Delete 
> key, Ed! and yes I could BUT in trying to do so I HAVE deleted a wrong 
> Posts ! ! ! THAT becomes a PITA.
> 
> T.I.A. ! ! !
> 
> Ed
> ------------------------
> 
> spridgets at autox.team.net
> 
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Nov 30 10:47:07 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:47:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
In-Reply-To: <20121130173335.59C12.45521.root@hrndva-web10-z02>
References: <20121130173335.59C12.45521.root@hrndva-web10-z02>
Message-ID: <50B8F11B.7040706@justbrits.com>

<< On 11/30/2012 11:33 AM, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:

may I be the first to say its going to be a long winter. >>

Sure Chris, BUT you would be first AND second  :-D	  :-(	  :'(  !

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Nov 30 17:57:15 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:57:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Projects update
In-Reply-To: <20121130.080442.13809.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
References: <20121130.080442.13809.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <13E87D8B1466414C92AD91A030CC3A2E@blackbox2>

I know the panhard rod is intended to provide better handling, but
in the Bugeye's case I'm more interested in extending the life of the rear
springs.

I've had to replace a rear spring that had several leafs broken.
I'm sure that age had something to do with it, but I think the side to side
sway does not help any.

I presume ride quality is not much affected with the panhard rod?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Projects update

This was my thinking when I put the WC panhard rod on the MKII, since I was
intending on racing it, and didn't want to flare the rears too much (vintage
rules and all that).
What I've found (in my limited use so far) is that it does reduce the sway
side to side of the rear axle which translates into a reduced oversteer.
That
being said, I also have a stock front swaybar and offset rear springs on the
MKII as well.
The upshot is that it has a much more neutral feel on entry, with the same
type of cornering speed and similar handling. It does, however FEEL like it
reaches the limit earlier than the BE, but I have no data to corroborate
that.
Wheel spacers are next on the MKII to balance the fender clearances, then a
new layshaft and bearings and its all cool.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Nov 30 18:09:13 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:09:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
In-Reply-To: <20121129154712.8F954F4402C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20121129154712.8F954F4402C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <2E393BE2EEED40B1B9AD590A24229121@blackbox2>

Sounds like he's running EFI, so this was the easy way out, just yank the
whole harness from the donor & take the gauges too.

The only problem is that it sounds like it might be the 2.9L Cologne engine,
which is a piece of crap.  Cracks heads, poor lube to the top end.

If it's the 4.0L then he is OK. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Caldwell
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:47 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...

... thought I'd share. A long-time customer just came in to pickup CV 
boots for his VW Bus pickup, which are cool on their own.

His, however, has a Ford Ranger V6 in the back. Cramped but neat 
installation.  The real curiosity to me was his dashboard....

As the Ford required all of the electronic dashboard gimickry, and he 
wanted to retain the stock dash, he installed the Ford dash crap 
under the pickup bed, and installed a back-up camera that plays to a 
small screen velcroed to the dash!