From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul  2 08:21:10 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:21:10 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Firewall hole for MKIII-IV wiper drive
Message-ID: <20120702.082110.31686.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

I'm having to put a later model wiper drive into the MKII due to using the
dual master from a '68 on. I need to know the placement of the feedthrough
hole for the drive cable relative to the driver's side hinge. It looks like a
1 3/8" hole, but I'm not sure if the cable housing passes over the hinge box
or under the hinge box either.
I finally got my shear/brake/roller up and working properly (yes its from
Horrible Freight, but I got it for FREE in pieces), so it now has proper Z and
U brackets holding the passenger's seat in place.
Anyone have the placement for that drive easily available? I know that Frank
did it on the Speedwell, I just want to get the wipers working for that
unusual circumstance that it rains when I'm out. I currently carry a squeegee
on a handle with me!!!!
TIA

Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jul  2 13:05:48 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:05:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Sources for Datsun 210 trans
In-Reply-To: <56F99D72-1340-4A18-BBE0-57A6EBAB085F@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <1341247849.1486.72373.m4@yahoogroups.com>
	<56F99D72-1340-4A18-BBE0-57A6EBAB085F@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <4FF1F10C.9050301@justbrits.com>

Hey Gerard ................ my mind BOGGLES <sigh> <F> !!!!!!!!!!!!

<<  On 7/2/2012 12:40 PM, Gerard wrote:
                 All I can say is, you'd be surprised how many people 
ask if the gearbox is included with the kit for $800 and if shipping 
is included too.  >>

Not really.  Matter of fact, I prolly would put money on it.

And I simply  CANNOT wrap my head around EVERY friggin' List Member 
(both Lists is would seem) has
FORGOTTEN Frank Clarici's fiasco with Rivergate.  I'll admit, I can't 
recall whether it was $2400 or $2800
but since NOBODY cares/remembers, frig it.

Ed
R.I.P. pal ! <sigh>

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 05:13:03 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 04:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Happy Birthday DMH!
Message-ID: <1341313983.57939.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Take a moment today to remember The Man.

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  3 18:03:51 2012
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 20:03:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Sources for Datsun 210 trans
In-Reply-To: <4FF1F10C.9050301@justbrits.com>
References: <1341247849.1486.72373.m4@yahoogroups.com>,
	<56F99D72-1340-4A18-BBE0-57A6EBAB085F@gerardsgarage.com>,
	<4FF1F10C.9050301@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY171-W303A78D38019A4C2CBFD16C2E80@phx.gbl>

I recommended Gerard last Friday night to someone who was checking out my
BugeyeGuy wasn't from New York was he????He had heard of Rivergate, but I
steered him to Gerard,because of what happened to Frank and I believe
Paul's/Gerard's kit is better.Gave him your web site to look over.Hope it
results in a sale.I'll be getting in touch with you Gerard about a kit,as soon
as I locate a 1275 to attach it to.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:05:48 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
> To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Sources for Datsun 210 trans
>
> Hey Gerard ................ my mind BOGGLES <sigh> <F> !!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> <<  On 7/2/2012 12:40 PM, Gerard wrote:
>                  All I can say is, you'd be surprised how many people
> ask if the gearbox is included with the kit for $800 and if shipping
> is included too.  >>
>
> Not really.  Matter of fact, I prolly would put money on it.
>
> And I simply  CANNOT wrap my head around EVERY friggin' List Member
> (both Lists is would seem) has
> FORGOTTEN Frank Clarici's fiasco with Rivergate.  I'll admit, I can't
> recall whether it was $2400 or $2800
> but since NOBODY cares/remembers, frig it.
>
> Ed
> R.I.P. pal ! <sigh>
> ------------------------

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Wed Jul  4 12:00:15 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 13:00:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A engine paint
Message-ID: <DCDC5DF3A8A34BEC9635BB0F69C6BDFB@leosHP>

Does anyone have a spray can of the Sherwin Williams green paint for the A
series motors they would be willing to part with? I will pay a high market
price as I need a can or partial can to match the paint on my motor as I have
to replace a few components on it.
Thanks
Leo

From lists at dinospider.com  Wed Jul  4 17:13:04 2012
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:13:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini wanted
Message-ID: <4FF4CE00.80504@dinospider.com>

  Anyone know of a Mini for sale preferably in S. Calif.  looking for a 
project car.

   Mike

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Jul  4 21:08:11 2012
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 23:08:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini wanted
Message-ID: <13340.325b2a60.3d265f1b@aol.com>

Check the private seller listings in the classified section of the Mini  
Mania Message Forum.
 
Howard Collins
'60 AH Bugeye Sprite
'68 Austin Mini
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/4/2012 7:15:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lists at dinospider.com writes:

Anyone  know of a Mini for sale preferably in S. Calif.  looking for a  
project car.

Mike

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Thu Jul  5 04:25:18 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 06:25:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book
Message-ID: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>

Greetings list,
I am sure the spelling is incorrect...does anyone recall or have a source for
a limited run book published in the late 80's providing highly accurate paint
colors used on both the Sprites and big Healeys?  I think it was authored by
"petrovic", Which is obviously wrong.  Nothing comes up on the net under that
name.
Thanks
George
Glen rock, nj

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Jul  5 08:20:39 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 09:20:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book
In-Reply-To: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>
References: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4FF5A2B7.3010504@wi.net>

George,

/Austin-Healey/,//Guide to Historic Colors, Pikovnik,Donald, 1998.
Published in 1999 by Coloramic Process, Inc.
2883 Industrial Park Drive
Austinburg OH
44010

Email:  donp at ncweb (at least that's what is was when I purchased the book)

You might have to look on eBay for a copy as I believe they are out of 
print.

Regards,
Dave W.
Burlington WI
AN5L/17606  (waaay too hot to drive it much this summer)


On 7/5/2012 5:25 AM, George MARINOS wrote:
> Greetings list,
> I am sure the spelling is incorrect...does anyone recall or have a source for
> a limited run book published in the late 80's providing highly accurate paint
> colors used on both the Sprites and big Healeys?  I think it was authored by
> "petrovic", Which is obviously wrong.  Nothing comes up on the net under that
> name.
> Thanks
> George
> Glen rock, nj

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 09:03:05 2012
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 11:03:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OtX8MxewiC5EHLbBP=pWKn2W3C9SxufjnphRwCntyHbyQ@mail.gmail.com>

For all you brake novices wondering what the heck a bubble flare is for
Brit car brake lines, I found this site today.

http://www.fedhillusa.com/webnuts/common%20flares6.pdf

Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jul  5 10:11:16 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:11:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book
In-Reply-To: <4FF5A2B7.3010504@wi.net>
References: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>
	<4FF5A2B7.3010504@wi.net>
Message-ID: <4FF5BCA4.1060905@justbrits.com>

YEP, Dave.  Have been for a number of years.  Mine 'might' be for sale 
<G> <F> <G> ! ! !

Ed



On 7/5/2012 9:20 AM, dwoerpel wrote:
>   I believe they are out of
> print.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Jul  5 11:45:02 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 12:45:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OtX8MxewiC5EHLbBP=pWKn2W3C9SxufjnphRwCntyHbyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEj5OtX8MxewiC5EHLbBP=pWKn2W3C9SxufjnphRwCntyHbyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <973584C647EA403C8DB4A64202331E45@leosHP>

Friggin unbelievable!!!   I have been looking for a supplier of the fittings 
for a long time.  I usually sent off my fittings and had them replated. 
Thanks Allen.

Leo

-----Original Message----- 
From: Allen Hefner
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:03 AM
To: Spridgets list
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares

For all you brake novices wondering what the heck a bubble flare is for
Brit car brake lines, I found this site today.

http://www.fedhillusa.com/webnuts/common%20flares6.pdf

Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget
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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jul  5 12:38:37 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 13:38:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
In-Reply-To: <973584C647EA403C8DB4A64202331E45@leosHP>
References: <CAMEj5OtX8MxewiC5EHLbBP=pWKn2W3C9SxufjnphRwCntyHbyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<973584C647EA403C8DB4A64202331E45@leosHP>
Message-ID: <20120705183845.DD8CA9A4485@mx2.netinteraction.com>

I've been buying from them for years.  Nice folks.
         Peter
==
At 12:45 PM 7/5/2012, 60bugeye at cebridge.net wrote:
>Friggin unbelievable!!!   I have been looking for a supplier of the 
>fittings for a long time.  I usually sent off my fittings and had 
>them replated. Thanks Allen.
>
>Leo
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Allen Hefner
>Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:03 AM
>To: Spridgets list
>Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
>
>For all you brake novices wondering what the heck a bubble flare is for
>Brit car brake lines, I found this site today.
>
>http://www.fedhillusa.com/webnuts/common%20flares6.pdf
>
>Allen Hefner
>Norristown, PA
>
>*Current:*
>2006 Chebbie
>*Former:*
>1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
>1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
>1964 VW Type I
>1967 VW Type II
>1967 Rover 2000TC
>1977 MG Midget
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jul  5 12:51:03 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 13:51:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
In-Reply-To: <973584C647EA403C8DB4A64202331E45@leosHP>
References: <CAMEj5OtX8MxewiC5EHLbBP=pWKn2W3C9SxufjnphRwCntyHbyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<973584C647EA403C8DB4A64202331E45@leosHP>
Message-ID: <C8153EB4-422D-44BB-9E41-7E61CA3E2946@comcast.net>

I have been telling anyone who would listen about those folks and about the
CuNi line.. great tool, great supplier.

Lester


On Jul 5, 2012, at 12:45 PM, <60bugeye at cebridge.net> <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
wrote:

> Friggin unbelievable!!!   I have been looking for a supplier of the fittings
for a long time.  I usually sent off my fittings and had them replated. Thanks
Allen.
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Allen Hefner
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:03 AM
> To: Spridgets list
> Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
>
> For all you brake novices wondering what the heck a bubble flare is for
> Brit car brake lines, I found this site today.
>
> http://www.fedhillusa.com/webnuts/common%20flares6.pdf
>
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
>
> *Current:*
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget
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From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Jul  5 14:25:15 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:25:15 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
References: <CAMEj5OtX8MxewiC5EHLbBP=pWKn2W3C9SxufjnphRwCntyHbyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<973584C647EA403C8DB4A64202331E45@leosHP>
Message-ID: <6BEE16C6EE794686A7A27447CC1AE888@user8634b3d69b>

Leo,
I've been using Cunifer10 brake line for over 40 years in conjunction with a 
vice mounted Sykes Pickavant Brake flare tool similar to that shown at 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sykes-pickavant-brake-pipe-flareing-kit-/230819237408?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item35bde60e20.
There has NEVER been a problem.  (Except when I've slipped the nut on the 
wrong way round then made the flare!)  A Land Rover I re-piped over 25 years 
ago is still using sections of the same brake line.    This brake flare tool 
is considered to be a good type although it is no longer made.

This would appear to be the 'norm' in the UK although different garages use 
different tools.

Previous posting in relation to Cunifer brake pipe over steel has met with 
some resistance from some US listers with some comment showing a lack of 
product knowledge.  This pipe has a long corrosion free life, is easy to 
bend by hand - although it flattens a little when using your thumb for a 
tight bend.  It is easy to flare and clips and nuts will rust away before 
the pipe.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <>
To: "Allen Hefner" <>; "Spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>Sent: 
Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake flares


> Friggin unbelievable!!!   I have been looking for a supplier of the 
> fittings for a long time.  I usually sent off my fittings and had them 
> replated. Thanks Allen.
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Allen Hefner
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:03 AM
> To: Spridgets list
> Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
>
> For all you brake novices wondering what the heck a bubble flare is for
> Brit car brake lines, I found this site today.
>
> http://www.fedhillusa.com/webnuts/common%20flares6.pdf
>
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
>
> *Current:*
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget
> ------------------------

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 14:42:31 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:42:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
In-Reply-To: <C8153EB4-422D-44BB-9E41-7E61CA3E2946@comcast.net>
References: <CAMEj5OtX8MxewiC5EHLbBP=pWKn2W3C9SxufjnphRwCntyHbyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<973584C647EA403C8DB4A64202331E45@leosHP>
	<C8153EB4-422D-44BB-9E41-7E61CA3E2946@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupf9tgw3og9mBi69juqjOY58gi_fb__T_cz8peHsbFNzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Ya know....    I probably will buy from Peter...   I want him to still be
in business years from now if I need more such parts...  I know his mark up
is an exorbitant .00001% but its worth it to have him around....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> I have been telling anyone who would listen about those folks and about the
> CuNi line.. great tool, great supplier.
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 12:45 PM, <60bugeye at cebridge.net> <
> 60bugeye at cebridge.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Friggin unbelievable!!!   I have been looking for a supplier of the
> fittings
> for a long time.  I usually sent off my fittings and had them replated.
> Thanks
> Allen.
> >
> > Leo
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Allen Hefner
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:03 AM
> > To: Spridgets list
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Brake flares
> >
> > For all you brake novices wondering what the heck a bubble flare is for
> > Brit car brake lines, I found this site today.
> >
> > http://www.fedhillusa.com/webnuts/common%20flares6.pdf
> >
> > Allen Hefner
> > Norristown, PA
> >
> > *Current:*
> > 2006 Chebbie
> > *Former:*
> > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> > 1964 VW Type I
> > 1967 VW Type II
> > 1967 Rover 2000TC
> > 1977 MG Midget
> > ------------------------
> >
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Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jul  5 17:57:24 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 16:57:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book
In-Reply-To: <4FF5A2B7.3010504@wi.net>
References: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>
	<4FF5A2B7.3010504@wi.net>
Message-ID: <76B639B888A6468B81A45F8CD5D65A97@spider>

Do you have an ISBN?  ...bill in corvallis
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dwoerpel
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:21 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book

George,

/Austin-Healey/,//Guide to Historic Colors, Pikovnik,Donald, 1998.
Published in 1999 by Coloramic Process, Inc.
2883 Industrial Park Drive
Austinburg OH
44010

Email:  donp at ncweb (at least that's what is was when I purchased the book)

You might have to look on eBay for a copy as I believe they are out of 
print.

Regards,
Dave W.
Burlington WI
AN5L/17606  (waaay too hot to drive it much this summer)

From franks97 at frontier.com  Thu Jul  5 18:26:40 2012
From: franks97 at frontier.com (David Franks)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 17:26:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Overachiever racing at HSMA Portland Historics
Message-ID: <CC1B7DAB.38A0%franks97@frontier.com>

Parker Johnstone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Johnstone
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Johnstone>> >  of CART fame, former
SCCA National Champion and Eagle Scout is entered in the Portland HSMA
Historic Races this weekend. He has entered his Honda Reynard Indy Car in
group 7. No big deal, retired professional drivers often join us at Historic
races. However, Parker is also entered in Group 2, British production cars
under 2 liters, in a 1967 Austin Healey Sprite. I am also an entrant in
Group 2 driving a 1967 Austin Healey Sprite. It should be an interesting
weekend. Wish me luck :-)

-- 
David Franks
franks97 at frontier.com
67 AH Sprite #82 Blue

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  5 19:15:34 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 18:15:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Rich Chryslers Passing
Message-ID: <1341537334.42174.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Forwarded from the Healey list.  Prayers to Rich's family.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Thu, 7/5/12, Ron Mitchell <healeyron at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Mitchell <healeyron at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Healeys] Rich Chryslers Passing
To: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 8:14 PM

Not sure how many knew that Rich Chrysler has been battling Pancreatic
Cancer.  Today I was informed by Les Vass that unfortunately he lost that
battle and passed on today around noon. 


The Healey world has lost a
treasure of knowledge and a great person who would never hesitate to share
his
knowledge and expertise with anyone that would call on him for help. 

Our
thoughts and prayer should go out to Lynn for her great loss.

Please pass on
this information on to your friends that are not subscribers to this list.
Regrets
Ron Mitchell
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jul  5 19:54:17 2012
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Rich Chryslers Passing
In-Reply-To: <1341537334.42174.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1341537334.42174.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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WTF !

 
"The Healey world has lost a treasure of knowledge and a great person who would 
never hesitate to share
his knowledge and expertise with anyone that would call on him for help."

Truer words were never spoken.

Rich was Wiki-Healey and a gentleman.

I am saddened by his passing. 

Our world is shrinking.

Rest in Peace Rich.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
1961 Innocenti 950 Spider
1963 Pink Sprite Mk II





________________________________
From: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, July 5, 2012 9:37:20 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Rich Chryslers Passing

Forwarded from the Healey list.  Prayers to Rich's family.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Thu, 7/5/12, Ron Mitchell <healeyron at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Mitchell <healeyron at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Healeys] Rich Chryslers Passing
To: "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 8:14 PM

Not sure how many knew that Rich Chrysler has been battling Pancreatic
Cancer.  Today I was informed by Les Vass that unfortunately he lost that
battle and passed on today around noon. 


The Healey world has lost a
treasure of knowledge and a great person who would never hesitate to share
his
knowledge and expertise with anyone that would call on him for help. 

Our thoughts and prayer should go out to Lynn for her great loss.

From bkitterer at me.com  Thu Jul  5 20:15:50 2012
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:15:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book
In-Reply-To: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>
References: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <839FF75F-77C4-4E83-B704-DB5CD6084429@me.com>

George, I have the book if there is anything I can look up for you.

Bob  and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in the garage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - now in the garage

On Jul 5, 2012, at 3:25 AM, George MARINOS wrote:

> Greetings list,
> I am sure the spelling is incorrect...does anyone recall or have a source for
> a limited run book published in the late 80's providing highly accurate paint
> colors used on both the Sprites and big Healeys?  I think it was authored by
> "petrovic", Which is obviously wrong.  Nothing comes up on the net under that
> name.
> Thanks
> George
> Glen rock, nj
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From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Fri Jul  6 06:41:17 2012
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 08:41:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rich Chryslers Passing
Message-ID: <22a9c.3032b8ce.3d2836ed@aol.com>

Rich was a true foundation of the Healey World. His willingness to help and 
share his knowledge were unsurpassed.  I had interacted and worked with him 
for almost 35 years and have always respected his contribution to our world 
of cars.
Our prayers and condolences to Lynn and his family and friends both here in 
the US and in Canada.
 
Rudy & Carol Streng
Lenoir, NC

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Jul  6 07:58:15 2012
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 09:58:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
Message-ID: <016701cd5b7f$64766f70$2d634e50$@hky.com>

We're only two weeks away from this MG-centered event (MG is Marque of the
Year, this year) and I'm hoping to see a whole bunch of Spridgets
displayed....Midgets in the Marque of the Year display and Sprites in the
adjacent British Car Day show.   Check out www.pvgp.org and navigate to the
Marque of the Year section.

We have a very large number of MGs entered in the vintage races, which are
run on city streets through beautiful, wooded, hilly Schenley Park.  Our MGs
will be displayed on the golf course adjacent to the race course.

If you can come in a few days ahead of Race Weekend, we've got a whole
weeks' worth of activities planned, including car shows, a countryside
driving tour, a visit to the Pittsburgh Jazz Festival (just a couple of
miles from our Host Hotel (Comfort Inn RIDC).

This event is going to be quite a party!  I hope to see a lot of you guys
there.

 

Bud Osbourne

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul  6 08:44:52 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 09:44:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
Message-ID: <20120706144500.EFBAE9A4862@mx2.netinteraction.com>

>  please be on the lookout for my stolen MG Midget
>  race car.  Car is a full race EMRA/SCCA car with a full cage and a 1275
>  engine. A distinguishing feature is an add on bar to the rear hoop for a
>  previous taller driver.  Car is yellow (or was!).  Also taken was my
>single axle trailer.  Trailer was green/aqua with a tire rack and
>storage box on the front.  The doors were taken off the storage shed and
>  both trailer and car were stolen.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Joe Downer
>Charlotte, N.C.
>800-332-2486

From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Fri Jul  6 08:46:03 2012
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 14:46:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
In-Reply-To: <016701cd5b7f$64766f70$2d634e50$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <834500697.2808622.1341585963776.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Bud,

I will definitely be there however I am worried at the direction that the event is headed.  One of the real unique things with the PVGP is you could look at a great many seriously exotic cars and watch them race.  The sports cars and sports racers that you do not always see.  Last year was mostly the run of the mill British cars and very little rarities.  Is this solely a result of the change in race sanctioning body?

Is this year different? 

Thanks for any information that you can give me for this disturbing trend.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 9:58:15 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix

We're only two weeks away from this MG-centered event (MG is Marque of the
Year, this year) and I'm hoping to see a whole bunch of Spridgets
displayed....Midgets in the Marque of the Year display and Sprites in the
adjacent British Car Day show.   Check out www.pvgp.org and navigate to the
Marque of the Year section.

We have a very large number of MGs entered in the vintage races, which are
run on city streets through beautiful, wooded, hilly Schenley Park.  Our MGs
will be displayed on the golf course adjacent to the race course.

If you can come in a few days ahead of Race Weekend, we've got a whole
weeks' worth of activities planned, including car shows, a countryside
driving tour, a visit to the Pittsburgh Jazz Festival (just a couple of
miles from our Host Hotel (Comfort Inn RIDC).

This event is going to be quite a party!  I hope to see a lot of you guys
there.

 

Bud Osbourne

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 08:55:42 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 07:55:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Overachiever racing at HSMA Portland Historics
In-Reply-To: <CC1B7DAB.38A0%franks97@frontier.com>
References: <CC1B7DAB.38A0%franks97@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <1341586542.88653.YahooMailNeo@web162404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Have a great time and give him a run for his money!
 
 - David

From: David
Franks <franks97 at frontier.com>
To: vintage list <vintage-race at autox.team.net>;
Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 8:26
PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Overachiever racing at HSMA Portland Historics

Parker
Johnstone <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Johnstone
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Johnstone>> >  of CART fame, former
SCCA
National Champion and Eagle Scout is entered in the Portland HSMA
Historic
Races this weekend. He has entered his Honda Reynard Indy Car in
group 7. No
big deal, retired professional drivers often join us at Historic
races.
However, Parker is also entered in Group 2, British production cars
under 2
liters, in a 1967 Austin Healey Sprite. I am also an entrant in
Group 2
driving a 1967 Austin Healey Sprite. It should be an interesting
weekend. Wish
me luck :-)

-- 
David Franks
franks97 at frontier.com
67 AH Sprite #82 Blue
------------------------

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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 09:26:27 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 08:26:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
Message-ID: <1341588387.27845.YahooMailClassic@web163101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

 Peter,
 
Bummer - i will pass this on to my friends in California.
I do not think it will turn up here being the other coast.- But you never
know.
I suspect it will be parted out - so people should also look in the parts
sales.
Trailers are rarely recovered because they are easily re-registered in most
states.
They also have no Vin so people can claim they are home made.
I have had several friend that have had them taken this year.
The police were the ones that told us that 1 out of 20 are recovered if that
many.
Sorry to hear Joe was a victim of people who do not respect others by
stealing.
 
Vigil
So Cal

--- On Fri, 7/6/12, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:


From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
To: spridgets at autox.team.net, mgs at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 7:44 AM


>  please be on the lookout for my stolen MG Midget
>  race car.  Car is a full race EMRA/SCCA car with a full cage and a 1275
>  engine. A distinguishing feature is an add on bar to the rear hoop for a
>  previous taller driver.  Car is yellow (or was!).  Also taken was my
>single axle trailer.  Trailer was green/aqua with a tire rack and
>storage box on the front.  The doors were taken off the storage shed and
>  both trailer and car were stolen.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Joe Downer
>Charlotte, N.C.
>800-332-2486
------------------------

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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Jul  6 09:34:35 2012
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 11:34:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
In-Reply-To: <834500697.2808622.1341585963776.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <016701cd5b7f$64766f70$2d634e50$@hky.com>
	<834500697.2808622.1341585963776.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <017601cd5b8c$d9993d20$8ccbb760$@hky.com>

Mike,
It's hard to tell, at this point in time, what the long-term effect of the
change in race sanctioning (PVGP became their own race sanctioning body, last
year) will be.  Some of the VSCCA people were, shall I say, "less than
understanding" about the change and VSCCA was attempting to stage a vintage
racing event on the same date as PVGP.  That fell through, last year, but I
don't know what they are planning for this year.  It is hoped that they will
come to understand and accept PVGP's need to make that change and continue to
support PVGP (there were still a lot of VSCCA cars there, last year, as I
recall).
As I'm not directly involved with the "Race Side" part of PVGP, I haven't been
paying real close attention to race entries other than MGs, so I'll have to
check and see who else might be coming.
>From a purely spectator stand point, I am very happy to see the larger entries
of production based sports cars, which I grew up with and raced, appearing at
Schenley Park.  Interesting though the "seriously exotic" vintage racers are,
after watching pretty much the same ones racing year after year (I've been
attending since the inaugural, 1982 event), I am more than ready for some
changes.
We can only hope that the unique and often quirky ones will return, again, in
the future (maybe this year?).
One thing you do NOT need to worry about, with PVGP's Schenley Park races, is
the (to me) sickening trend in "vintage racing" toward near-new Porsches,
BMWs, Corvettes, LMP cars, and recently obsolete NASCAR racers pushing the
true vintage cars out of the program (due primarily to reduced track time).
The Schenley Park course is just too dangerous for the modern stuff.

Be sure and look me up, Mike.  I look forward to meeting you.

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com [mailto:lotuspilot at frontier.com]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 10:46 AM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix

Bud,

I will definitely be there however I am worried at the direction that the
event is headed.  One of the real unique things with the PVGP is you could
look at a great many seriously exotic cars and watch them race.  The sports
cars and sports racers that you do not always see.  Last year was mostly the
run of the mill British cars and very little rarities.  Is this solely a
result of the change in race sanctioning body?

Is this year different?

Thanks for any information that you can give me for this disturbing trend.

Mike

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul  6 11:02:07 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:02:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book
In-Reply-To: <76B639B888A6468B81A45F8CD5D65A97@spider>
References: <B063062C-2C38-48F3-A9DA-591D53D76AC5@verizon.net>
	<4FF5A2B7.3010504@wi.net> <76B639B888A6468B81A45F8CD5D65A97@spider>
Message-ID: <4FF71A0F.5080303@wi.net>

My copy does not have one.  It's a small 3 ring binder format.

Dave W.

On 7/5/2012 6:57 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> Do you have an ISBN?  ...bill in corvallis
> ===========================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dwoerpel
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:21 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] petrovic? paint book
>
> George,
>
> /Austin-Healey/,//Guide to Historic Colors, Pikovnik,Donald, 1998.
> Published in 1999 by Coloramic Process, Inc.
> 2883 Industrial Park Drive
> Austinburg OH
> 44010
>
> Email:  donp at ncweb (at least that's what is was when I purchased the book)
>
> You might have to look on eBay for a copy as I believe they are out of
> print.
>
> Regards,
> Dave W.
> Burlington WI
> AN5L/17606  (waaay too hot to drive it much this summer)

From cooper6 at swbell.net  Fri Jul  6 11:13:31 2012
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (MARTIN COOPER)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 12:13:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
In-Reply-To: <20120706144500.EFBAE9A4862@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20120706144500.EFBAE9A4862@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <001701cd5b9a$abc83b90$0358b2b0$@swbell.net>

Sorry to hear!
Sent out to my CVAR racing group!

Martin Cooper

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:45 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car

>  please be on the lookout for my stolen MG Midget
>  race car.  Car is a full race EMRA/SCCA car with a full cage and a 
>1275
>  engine. A distinguishing feature is an add on bar to the rear hoop 
>for a
>  previous taller driver.  Car is yellow (or was!).  Also taken was my 
>single axle trailer.  Trailer was green/aqua with a tire rack and 
>storage box on the front.  The doors were taken off the storage shed 
>and
>  both trailer and car were stolen.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Joe Downer
>Charlotte, N.C.
>800-332-2486
------------------------

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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul  6 11:17:54 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:17:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Rich Chryslers Passing
In-Reply-To: <1341537334.42174.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1341537334.42174.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4FF71DC2.2080204@wi.net>

As previously stated, Rich was a source of information and I contacted 
him several times and he never refused and always had the time.

It underscores, once again, what this list means to people and the 
impact it has.  Paul A., Frank, Rich, and those who have gone on before 
have done much for our hobby and will continue to do so.
It also, if you will forgive my looking at our mortality for a moment, 
emphasizes the need to bring others along.  Most have enlisted our sons 
and/or daughters to carry on.  We need to continue that so our knowledge 
base isn't confined to hard drives and discs.

Our prayers, sympathies and thanks for sharing Rich go to Rich's family.

Dave and Terri Woerpel

59 :{) AN5L/17606
59 MGA 1500  HDR43/62403

Burlington WI



On 7/5/2012 8:15 PM, HealeyRick wrote:
> Forwarded from the Healey list.  Prayers to Rich's family.
>
> Rick
>
>
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
> --- On Thu, 7/5/12, Ron Mitchell<healeyron at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
> From: Ron Mitchell<healeyron at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Healeys] Rich Chryslers Passing
> To: "healeys at autox.team.net"<healeys at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 8:14 PM
>
> Not sure how many knew that Rich Chrysler has been battling Pancreatic
> Cancer.  Today I was informed by Les Vass that unfortunately he lost that
> battle and passed on today around noon.
>
>
> The Healey world has lost a
> treasure of knowledge and a great person who would never hesitate to share
> his
> knowledge and expertise with anyone that would call on him for help.
>
> Our
> thoughts and prayer should go out to Lynn for her great loss.
>
> Please pass on
> this information on to your friends that are not subscribers to this list.
> Regrets
> Ron Mitchell
> BN6
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 11:10:50 2012
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 10:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
In-Reply-To: <1341588387.27845.YahooMailClassic@web163101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1341588387.27845.YahooMailClassic@web163101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1341594650.37422.YahooMailNeo@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Pics would be helpful.  I'm in SC, so might have a chance of spotting it.....
 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/


________________________________
From: "uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com" <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; Sprite <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; Midget/Sprite
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject:
Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
 
Peter,

Bummer - i will pass this
on to my friends in California.
I do not think it will turn up here being the
other coast.- But you never
know.
I suspect it will be parted out - so people
should also look in the parts
sales.
Trailers are rarely recovered because
they are easily re-registered in most
states.
They also have no Vin so people
can claim they are home made.
I have had several friend that have had them
taken this year.
The police were the ones that told us that 1 out of 20 are
recovered if that
many.
Sorry to hear Joe was a victim of people who do not
respect others by
stealing.

Vigil
So Cal

--- On Fri, 7/6/12, Peter Caldwell
<peter at nosimport.com> wrote:


From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
To: spridgets at autox.team.net,
mgs at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, July 6, 2012, 7:44 AM


>  please be on the
lookout for my stolen MG Midget
>  race car.  Car is a full race EMRA/SCCA car
with a full cage and a 1275
>  engine. A distinguishing feature is an add on
bar to the rear hoop for a
>  previous taller driver.  Car is yellow (or
was!).  Also taken was my
>single axle trailer.  Trailer was green/aqua with a
tire rack and
>storage box on the front.  The doors were taken off the storage
shed and
>  both trailer and car were stolen.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Joe
Downer
>Charlotte, N.C.
>800-332-2486
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 11:56:29 2012
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 10:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
In-Reply-To: <001701cd5b9a$abc83b90$0358b2b0$@swbell.net>
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Is there insurance that can help offset any loss in this type of situation? 
Just curious.  Would homeowner's or auto cover the loss in any way?

 
Edward
Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/


________________________________
From: MARTIN COOPER <cooper6 at swbell.net>
To: 'Peter Caldwell'
<peter at nosimport.com>; spridgets at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net 
Sent:
Friday, July 6, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race
Car
 
Sorry to hear!
Sent out to my CVAR racing group!

Martin Cooper
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent:
Friday, July 06, 2012 9:45 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car

>  please be on the lookout
for my stolen MG Midget
>  race car.  Car is a full race EMRA/SCCA car with a
full cage and a 
>1275
>  engine. A distinguishing feature is an add on bar to
the rear hoop 
>for a
>  previous taller driver.  Car is yellow (or was!). 
Also taken was my 
>single axle trailer.  Trailer was green/aqua with a tire
rack and 
>storage box on the front.  The doors were taken off the storage
shed 
>and
>  both trailer and car were stolen.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Joe
Downer
>Charlotte, N.C.
>800-332-2486
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul  6 12:36:26 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 14:36:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
In-Reply-To: <1341594650.37422.YahooMailNeo@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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	<1341594650.37422.YahooMailNeo@web160805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Photos in this thread....

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?41,2112772,2112913,page=1#msg-211
2913

Sent from my keyboard



On Jul 6, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Pics would be helpful.  I'm in SC, so might have a chance of spotting
it.....
>
> Edward Perez
> Summerville, SC
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 16:02:58 2012
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 15:02:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
In-Reply-To: <1341597389.53412.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Yes, Hagerty Ins.  Most home owners insurance will not cover unlicensed
vehicles or trailers.  Your auto insurance will only cover liability on your
trailer when hooked to your car.  Hagerty covers my race car and trailer with
all contents for loss or damage, including liability, even at the race track
in the paddock area, but once the car hits the racing surface you're on your
own.  I pay about $250 a year but depends mostly on the value of the insured
items.

________________________________
From: Edward Perez
<eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: MARTIN COOPER <cooper6 at swbell.net>; 'Peter Caldwell'
<peter at nosimport.com>; "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>;
"mgs at autox.team.net" <mgs at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car

Is there insurance that
can help offset any loss in this type of situation? 
Just curious.  Would
homeowner's or auto cover the loss in any way?


Edward
Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
Friday, July 06, 2012 9:45 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net;
mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car

>  please
be on the lookout
for my stolen MG Midget
>  race car.  Car is a full race
EMRA/SCCA car with a
full cage and a 
>1275
>  engine. A distinguishing
feature is an add on bar to
the rear hoop 
>for a
>  previous taller driver. 
Car is yellow (or was!). 
Also taken was my 
>single axle trailer.  Trailer
was green/aqua with a tire
rack and 
>storage box on the front.  The doors
were taken off the storage
:

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  6 18:21:29 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:21:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw:MORRIS_MOTORS - FACTORY STICKER?????
Message-ID: <1341620489.91988.YahooMailClassic@web163104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

 
Bruce is a Friend who made up some radiator stencils for the Morris people.
I thought some of you would like to see what it says.
For the groups that do not post pictures.
 
It reads............
 
"YA STUPID ITS HOT - DARE YA TO TOUCH IT AGAIN"




THANKS BRUCE FOR THE RADIATOR STENCIL????
Are you sure that is what it said from "The Factory"? LOL
 


 

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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul  7 01:44:59 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 02:44:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
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Speaking of insurance, I have a good friend who had 3 early 70's Chevelles,
and a 62 Chevy pickup insured with Safeco. They were on a stated value
policy, when they were all hit by the horrible hailstorm in Dallas a few
weeks ago. Now the company is waffling, and not wanting to pay.
BEWARE.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes, Hagerty Ins.  Most home owners insurance will not cover unlicensed
> vehicles or trailers.  Your auto insurance will only cover liability on
> your
> trailer when hooked to your car.  Hagerty covers my race car and trailer
> with
> all contents for loss or damage, including liability, even at the race
> track
> in the paddock area, but once the car hits the racing surface you're on
> your
> own.  I pay about $250 a year but depends mostly on the value of the
> insured
> items.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Edward Perez
> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
> To: MARTIN COOPER <cooper6 at swbell.net>; 'Peter Caldwell'
> <peter at nosimport.com>; "spridgets at autox.team.net" <
> spridgets at autox.team.net>;
> "mgs at autox.team.net" <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
>
> Is there insurance that
> can help offset any loss in this type of situation?
> Just curious.  Would
> homeowner's or auto cover the loss in any way?
>
>
> Edward
> Perez
> Summerville, SC
> 78 Midget (1275)
> Friday, July 06, 2012 9:45 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net;
> mgs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
>
> >  please
> be on the lookout
> for my stolen MG Midget
> >  race car.  Car is a full race
> EMRA/SCCA car with a
> full cage and a
> >1275
> >  engine. A distinguishing
> feature is an add on bar to
> the rear hoop
> >for a
> >  previous taller driver.
> Car is yellow (or was!).
> Also taken was my
> >single axle trailer.  Trailer
> was green/aqua with a tire
> rack and
> >storage box on the front.  The doors
> were taken off the storage
> :
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jul  7 08:08:17 2012
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 07:08:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r9KaPZx0-EbWJ7Fs-=D+M4FwOpvQNuMfHQ9xh8HrsD4sg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Brad,

     Safeco will fight him all the way. They're great when it comes to
     taking your $$$$ and providing coverage, but I've heard nothing
     but horror stories about actually collecting on claims.

     Good luck to your buddy... Get the State Insurance Commissioner's
     number ASAP. He's gonna need it. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Going the speed of light is bad for your age. 

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Sat Jul  7 08:17:00 2012
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 10:17:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
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I handle insurance issues at work. We are a family office and pay the
bills, do the investing, etc., for rich people. Some of them have race cars
and classic cars.

I found Gulfway Insurance in FL can handle race car insurance for off track
stuff. Nobody insures a race car while racing. These guys insure the
equipment truck for our local SCCA region in Philly.

Call them at the number on their web site -  http://www.racensur.com/  Very
easy to work with because they are racers themselves.

Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget


On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes, Hagerty Ins.  Most home owners insurance will not cover unlicensed
> vehicles or trailers.  Your auto insurance will only cover liability on
> your
> trailer when hooked to your car.  Hagerty covers my race car and trailer
> with
> all contents for loss or damage, including liability, even at the race
> track
> in the paddock area, but once the car hits the racing surface you're on
> your
> own.  I pay about $250 a year but depends mostly on the value of the
> insured
> items.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Edward Perez
> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
> To: MARTIN COOPER <cooper6 at swbell.net>; 'Peter Caldwell'
> <peter at nosimport.com>; "spridgets at autox.team.net" <
> spridgets at autox.team.net>;
> "mgs at autox.team.net" <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
>
> Is there insurance that
> can help offset any loss in this type of situation?
> Just curious.  Would
> homeowner's or auto cover the loss in any way?
>
>
> Edward
> Perez
> Summerville, SC
> 78 Midget (1275)
> Friday, July 06, 2012 9:45 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net;
> mgs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
>
> >  please
> be on the lookout
> for my stolen MG Midget
> >  race car.  Car is a full race
> EMRA/SCCA car with a
> full cage and a
> >1275
> >  engine. A distinguishing
> feature is an add on bar to
> the rear hoop
> >for a
> >  previous taller driver.
> Car is yellow (or was!).
> Also taken was my
> >single axle trailer.  Trailer
> was green/aqua with a tire
> rack and
> >storage box on the front.  The doors
> were taken off the storage
> :

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Sat Jul  7 08:20:05 2012
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 10:20:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
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There's a big difference between stated value and agreed value. Don't get
stuck!

See -
http://www.lelandwest.com/stated-value-vs-agreed-value-classic-car-insurance.cfm


Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget


On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Speaking of insurance, I have a good friend who had 3 early 70's Chevelles,
> and a 62 Chevy pickup insured with Safeco. They were on a stated value
> policy, when they were all hit by the horrible hailstorm in Dallas a few
> weeks ago. Now the company is waffling, and not wanting to pay.
> BEWARE.
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, Hagerty Ins.  Most home owners insurance will not cover unlicensed
> > vehicles or trailers.  Your auto insurance will only cover liability on
> > your
> > trailer when hooked to your car.  Hagerty covers my race car and trailer
> > with
> > all contents for loss or damage, including liability, even at the race
> > track
> > in the paddock area, but once the car hits the racing surface you're on
> > your
> > own.  I pay about $250 a year but depends mostly on the value of the
> > insured
> > items.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Edward Perez
> > <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
> > To: MARTIN COOPER <cooper6 at swbell.net>; 'Peter Caldwell'
> > <peter at nosimport.com>; "spridgets at autox.team.net" <
> > spridgets at autox.team.net>;
> > "mgs at autox.team.net" <mgs at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
> >
> > Is there insurance that
> > can help offset any loss in this type of situation?
> > Just curious.  Would
> > homeowner's or auto cover the loss in any way?
> >
> >
> > Edward
> > Perez
> > Summerville, SC
> > 78 Midget (1275)
> > Friday, July 06, 2012 9:45 AM
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net;
> > mgs at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
> >
> > >  please
> > be on the lookout
> > for my stolen MG Midget
> > >  race car.  Car is a full race
> > EMRA/SCCA car with a
> > full cage and a
> > >1275
> > >  engine. A distinguishing
> > feature is an add on bar to
> > the rear hoop
> > >for a
> > >  previous taller driver.
> > Car is yellow (or was!).
> > Also taken was my
> > >single axle trailer.  Trailer
> > was green/aqua with a tire
> > rack and
> > >storage box on the front.  The doors
> > were taken off the storage
> > :
> > ------------------------

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jul  7 08:59:10 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:59:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Fot] Stolen Race Car
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r9KaPZx0-EbWJ7Fs-=D+M4FwOpvQNuMfHQ9xh8HrsD4sg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4FF84EBE.9040601@justbrits.com>

<<  On 7/7/2012 2:44 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

			They were on a stated value policy, .....  >>

Sorry Brad, dat's one of the better SCAMS in the Ins. Industry ! !
  ANYBODY can STATE was something is worth and the Co. says OK.  Then 
"trouble" hits and the Co. just says
'nope' that is NOT what we "think" it's worth.

EVERYBODY in this hobby SHOULD have AGREED VALUE ins.  Then there is 
ZERO 'quibbling'.

I have harped for DECADES on this subject and it IS the reason I tell 
any & all new Owners (LOL - and I guess current/old owners) KEEP TRACK 
OF EVERYTHING you do to you car(s).  Your TIME should be kept as 
DOLLARS and then ADDED to your AGREED amount ! ! !

ALWAYS think of it this way:    "How much would it COST to REPLACE my 
car as it IS."
That's what you want it "Agreed Value" INSURED for.  Both my cars (and 
past Camino's <G>) have gone up a MINIMUM of a grand a year since I've 
owned them ! !

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

PS:  Hey Jay, dis is yerse cue - LOL ! !

From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Fri Jul  6 10:10:30 2012
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 16:10:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
In-Reply-To: <1590772250.2809253.1341591021676.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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Bud,

Thanks for taking the moment to let me know more about what had occurred.  I have been attending every year since 1985.  I would have started sooner had I known it existed.  I think the first years still had the learning curve any way.  I remember vividly the Corvettes doing battle on such a tight course.  Everybody that can attend should be there.  It is the highlight of every summer for us.  I will look you up.  I , actually my wife, will most likely have my Series one Lotus Seven at the BCD.  I have in the past brought both Bugeyes and Mk II Sprites.

I love Spridgets, As and Bs. However, there was a big pull do to the neat cars that you do not see any where else.  I can look at Spridgets and Minis every day.  I hope that the exotica comes back.  I will always still attend as I live in Morgantown, WV so not far to drive.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: lotuspilot at frontier.com
Cc: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 11:34:35 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix

Mike,
It's hard to tell, at this point in time, what the long-term effect of the change in race sanctioning (PVGP became their own race sanctioning body, last year) will be.  Some of the VSCCA people were, shall I say, "less than understanding" about the change and VSCCA was attempting to stage a vintage racing event on the same date as PVGP.  That fell through, last year, but I don't know what they are planning for this year.  It is hoped that they will come to understand and accept PVGP's need to make that change and continue to support PVGP (there were still a lot of VSCCA cars there, last year, as I recall).
As I'm not directly involved with the "Race Side" part of PVGP, I haven't been paying real close attention to race entries other than MGs, so I'll have to check and see who else might be coming.
>From a purely spectator stand point, I am very happy to see the larger entries of production based sports cars, which I grew up with and raced, appearing at Schenley Park.  Interesting though the "seriously exotic" vintage racers are, after watching pretty much the same ones racing year after year (I've been attending since the inaugural, 1982 event), I am more than ready for some changes.
We can only hope that the unique and often quirky ones will return, again, in the future (maybe this year?).
One thing you do NOT need to worry about, with PVGP's Schenley Park races, is the (to me) sickening trend in "vintage racing" toward near-new Porsches, BMWs, Corvettes, LMP cars, and recently obsolete NASCAR racers pushing the true vintage cars out of the program (due primarily to reduced track time).  The Schenley Park course is just too dangerous for the modern stuff.

Be sure and look me up, Mike.  I look forward to meeting you.

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com [mailto:lotuspilot at frontier.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 10:46 AM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix

Bud,

I will definitely be there however I am worried at the direction that the event is headed.  One of the real unique things with the PVGP is you could look at a great many seriously exotic cars and watch them race.  The sports cars and sports racers that you do not always see.  Last year was mostly the run of the mill British cars and very little rarities.  Is this solely a result of the change in race sanctioning body?

Is this year different? 

Thanks for any information that you can give me for this disturbing trend.

Mike

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Sun Jul  1 16:40:10 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:40:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
Message-ID: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

You racer types out there ought to get a kick out of this.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Spinger


http://www.wimp.com/ferrellcoach/

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  8 11:17:05 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 10:17:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Discovered - Why Peter C Loves Curling
Message-ID: <1341767825.81006.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Interesting read in today's NY Post about the debauchery in the Olympic
Village:

Here's some quotes:

"Everything is free b including the unlimited supply of condoms, stamped
with sports-specific logos. (Curlers, for example, get wrappers stamped 
with
little curling stones.)"


bIf I were to reincarnate myself, Ibd come back and do curling,b says
Lodwick. bWhat other sport can you not be in shape for, and still be
considered at top athlete?bWhile curlers are held in the lowest esteem
athletically, they are considered gold medalists when it comes to
partying.After
 the female Olympian finished competing at the 2010 Vancouver
Olympics, 
she checked out of the Village and went to stay with the curlers,
who 
were off-site at a hotel in Whistler.bThat was a party house,b she
says. bCurlers are known for drinking. The sport doesnbt require that
much.b
Read more:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/most_of_the_iWUNgznLeBhhff7VI9wlSP#ixzz
203J60lxx


Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 10:58:00 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Just goes to prove the point I've been making for years: NASCAR drivers can't
cut it if they have to do anything more than put their foot to the floor and
turn left on a big wide oval. The few courses in the series where they
actually have elevation changes and right turns are usually driven by hired
guns. Yes, I know there are exceptions to that last part, but they are few and
far between. NASCAR is a big show designed to sell T-shirts, flags, beer, and
toy cars to the masses who don't know any better.
 
 - David Booker
F1, Sports
car, Rallye car, V8 Supercar, Touring Car, DTM, etc. fan. NOT a NASCAR fan.
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 6:40 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
You racer types out there ought to get a kick out of this.
Mike MacLean
60
Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Spinger


http://www.wimp.com/ferrellcoach/
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul  9 15:15:02 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 17:15:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <1341853080.50927.YahooMailNeo@web162405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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I respectfully disagree with several of your points.  Nascar runs two races a
year on road courses - Watkins Glen and Laguna Seca.  Two or three of the 43
entrants may be run by a hired gun driver, but the majority of the teams use
their regular driver.  Historically the ringers have never done very well, as
driving a 3500 pound 850 hp dinosaur on a road course is a lot harder than it
looks. Marcos Ambrose did very well driving the V8 Supercars on the road
courses in Australia.  But he has struggled somewhat on the ovals of Nascar.
His one Nascar win was on a road course.  Driving one of those dinosaurs on an
oval is also a lot harder than it looks.

As far as Mr. Waltrip being excited during his test run at Bathurst - well all
I can say is that he was expecting a tour of the track, not a
balls-to-the-wall all out run on a course he had never seen before.  And I
imagine you might react the same if someone else was doing the driving.  I
know I would.  :-)  Personally I dislike riding with someone else doing the
driving.  I absolutely refuse to ride on the back of a motorcycle.

Some years ago I helped run a Nascar driving school at California Speedway for
a weekend.  The school used old Busch cars that had been fitted with a
passenger seat.  Most of the passengers going for a ride-along squeeled like a
baby when you went into turn one at only 100 mph.  LOL  The Cup drivers hit
turn one at over 200 mph.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:58 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just goes to prove the point I've been making for years: NASCAR drivers
can't
> cut it if they have to do anything more than put their foot to the floor
and
> turn left on a big wide oval. The few courses in the series where they
> actually have elevation changes and right turns are usually driven by hired
> guns. Yes, I know there are exceptions to that last part, but they are few
and
> far between. NASCAR is a big show designed to sell T-shirts, flags, beer,
and
> toy cars to the masses who don't know any better.
>
> - David Booker
>
> http://www.wimp.com/ferrellcoach/
> ------------------------

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul  9 15:43:49 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 21:43:49 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Door seal(?) installation
Message-ID: <20120709.154349.9876.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

Can anyone on the list give me a good description of how to get these bloody
door seals onto my MKII? I can't seem to get the clip and rubber seal portion
of the seal to go the same way onto the edge seam. They're stitched together,
but it's a mother trying to get the stupid thing in place. I know that there's
a trick to it, I just can't figure out an easy way-or a hard way for that
matter.
the edge of the clip pieces keep wanting to fold over on me.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Mon Jul  9 16:02:10 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <7CE973FA-F840-4D68-BFAD-20477D0D8B06@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <1341871330.15567.YahooMailClassic@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 7/9/12, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

  Personally I dislike riding with someone else doing the
driving.  I absolutely refuse to ride on the back of a motorcycle.



Rick,
     You won't have to worry in my case.  I don't ride dudes "bitch" on my
Harley and neither do any of the other male riders I know. ;^)

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul  9 16:26:48 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 18:26:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <ce8443f4-37b2-40da-8af0-f116afd45b6e@blur>
References: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<1341853080.50927.YahooMailNeo@web162405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<7CE973FA-F840-4D68-BFAD-20477D0D8B06@chartermi.net>
	<ce8443f4-37b2-40da-8af0-f116afd45b6e@blur>
Message-ID: <6C0ABB33-09A3-4B46-9FD8-663038E3A6D2@chartermi.net>

Is my face RED!  Sears Point - not Laguna Seca - DOH!

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Me<zackrockwell at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Interesting discussion. I race a Sprite on the west coast and NASCAR runs on
my home track-Sears Point ( Infineon) NOT Laguna. ZACK #83.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 17:01:41 2012
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 18:01:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <7CE973FA-F840-4D68-BFAD-20477D0D8B06@chartermi.net>
References: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<1341853080.50927.YahooMailNeo@web162405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<7CE973FA-F840-4D68-BFAD-20477D0D8B06@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <F7978C2E-3538-43C6-AB9D-0B664D60C50E@yahoo.com>

Actually Darrell Waltrip was in Talladega Nights and has a fantastic sense of
humor. Racing is racing.

Ron Soave
Road Racer
Autocrosser
24 Hour of LeMons driver (Team Launcha Splatos)

I'll take a ride in a lefthander of you got one!

On Jul 9, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> I respectfully disagree with several of your points.  Nascar runs two races
a
> year on road courses - Watkins Glen and Laguna Seca.  Two or three of the
43
> entrants may be run by a hired gun driver, but the majority of the teams
use
> their regular driver.  Historically the ringers have never done very well,
as
> driving a 3500 pound 850 hp dinosaur on a road course is a lot harder than
it
> looks. Marcos Ambrose did very well driving the V8 Supercars on the road
> courses in Australia.  But he has struggled somewhat on the ovals of
Nascar.
> His one Nascar win was on a road course.  Driving one of those dinosaurs on
an
> oval is also a lot harder than it looks.
>
> As far as Mr. Waltrip being excited during his test run at Bathurst - well
all
> I can say is that he was expecting a tour of the track, not a
> balls-to-the-wall all out run on a course he had never seen before.  And I
> imagine you might react the same if someone else was doing the driving.  I
> know I would.  :-)  Personally I dislike riding with someone else doing the
> driving.  I absolutely refuse to ride on the back of a motorcycle.
>
> Some years ago I helped run a Nascar driving school at California Speedway
for
> a weekend.  The school used old Busch cars that had been fitted with a
> passenger seat.  Most of the passengers going for a ride-along squeeled like
a
> baby when you went into turn one at only 100 mph.  LOL  The Cup drivers hit
> turn one at over 200 mph.
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:58 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Just goes to prove the point I've been making for years: NASCAR drivers
> can't
>> cut it if they have to do anything more than put their foot to the floor
> and
>> turn left on a big wide oval. The few courses in the series where they
>> actually have elevation changes and right turns are usually driven by
hired
>> guns. Yes, I know there are exceptions to that last part, but they are few
> and
>> far between. NASCAR is a big show designed to sell T-shirts, flags, beer,
> and
>> toy cars to the masses who don't know any better.
>>
>> - David Booker
>>
>> http://www.wimp.com/ferrellcoach/
>> ------------------------
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 17:10:39 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 18:10:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <6C0ABB33-09A3-4B46-9FD8-663038E3A6D2@chartermi.net>
References: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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	<7CE973FA-F840-4D68-BFAD-20477D0D8B06@chartermi.net>
	<ce8443f4-37b2-40da-8af0-f116afd45b6e@blur>
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Watkins Glen????
Jim

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> Is my face RED!  Sears Point - not Laguna Seca - DOH!
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Me<zackrockwell at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Interesting discussion. I race a Sprite on the west coast and NASCAR
> runs on
> my home track-Sears Point ( Infineon) NOT Laguna. ZACK #83.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jul  9 18:43:37 2012
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 20:43:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <6C0ABB33-09A3-4B46-9FD8-663038E3A6D2@chartermi.net>
References: <1341182410.1793.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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	<7CE973FA-F840-4D68-BFAD-20477D0D8B06@chartermi.net>
	<ce8443f4-37b2-40da-8af0-f116afd45b6e@blur>
	<6C0ABB33-09A3-4B46-9FD8-663038E3A6D2@chartermi.net>
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Anyone who has stood at the Cork Screw at Laguna Seca knows what this guy is 
talking about.  You don't have to drive it.  Just watching is gut-wrenching 
enough.

I was there for one race 50 years ago, and I still can see it in my head.

Michael Rowe

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Jul  9 18:50:24 2012
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 20:50:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Door seal(?) installation
In-Reply-To: <20120709.154349.9876.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
References: <20120709.154349.9876.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
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Mark,

Once you position the part of the seal which contains the "clips" over the
metal, you should apply even pressure with the palm of your hand to move it
onto the metal and then you can work it in the same manner on both sides until
you work your way to both ends.

Leave plenty of extra at each end so you can properly mount the front and the
rear.

The front is held in place by a large wire harness clip attached to the back
side of the outermost cockpit facia trim screw.

The rear portion goes behind the trim panel that surrounds the top bow mount
and is pierced by the panels trim screw.

If this sounds confusing I can send you pics.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford CT
61 Innocenti 950 Spider
63 Pink Sprite Mk II

On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:43 PM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> Can anyone on the list give me a good description of how to get these
bloody
> door seals onto my MKII? I can't seem to get the clip and rubber seal
portion
> of the seal to go the same way onto the edge seam. They're stitched
together,
> but it's a mother trying to get the stupid thing in place. I know that
there's
> a trick to it, I just can't figure out an easy way-or a hard way for that
> matter.
> the edge of the clip pieces keep wanting to fold over on me.

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jul  9 18:55:59 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:55:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnup5M0q7mJhfxP=ntr6dbUMY11vq7oeYsgSeduQGdjxUzw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<ce8443f4-37b2-40da-8af0-f116afd45b6e@blur>
	<6C0ABB33-09A3-4B46-9FD8-663038E3A6D2@chartermi.net>
	<CAJgjnup5M0q7mJhfxP=ntr6dbUMY11vq7oeYsgSeduQGdjxUzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FFB7D9F.7090802@justbrits.com>

<< On 7/9/2012 6:10 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

Watkins Glen????  >>

At least Rick kept courses on the same Coast.  Be one HE|| of a trick 
to 'move' the Glen.

Rick said:
<q>
Some years ago I helped run a Nascar driving school at California 
Speedway for a weekend.
</q>

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul  9 19:01:47 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 21:01:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnup5M0q7mJhfxP=ntr6dbUMY11vq7oeYsgSeduQGdjxUzw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<7CE973FA-F840-4D68-BFAD-20477D0D8B06@chartermi.net>
	<ce8443f4-37b2-40da-8af0-f116afd45b6e@blur>
	<6C0ABB33-09A3-4B46-9FD8-663038E3A6D2@chartermi.net>
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Message-ID: <C292391B-4DF8-476E-B5E2-EE8C8F154E7B@chartermi.net>

Yessir, Nascar will be running at Watkins Glen on August 12th.  Race is
scheduled to start sometime around 12:30 PM EDT.  They've been running at the
Glen for years.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 9, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Watkins Glen????
> Jim

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jul 10 01:40:34 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 02:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MGB F/S <G> !
Message-ID: <4FFBDC72.1030203@justbrits.com>

What we have here:

http://www.oldride.com/sports_cars/429927.html

is a "true" "winner" ! ! !

Enjoy !

Ed
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www.justbrits.com

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 06:33:53 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 08:33:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
Message-ID: <uv5voo5rawt96y55toojqk6u.1341923633721@email.android.com>

Didn't mean to insult anybody who may like it. I have been to the Glen for one NASCAR event myself. I did see quite a few sports car drivers filling in on the day I was there. Racing is indeed racing on a road course, I just can't get excited about watching a bunch of virtually identical cars going in circles. Even if it is at high speeds.

I will also allow that there is skill involved in keeping a dinosaur balanced on the edge lap after lap. It is just a skill that pales compared to what is needed on a road course. Also, since when is a Camry RWD and powered by a pushrod V8? Or many of the other 'cars' in the field for that matter?

Everybody is obviously welcome to watch whatever they want, I just have trouble accepting that you should manipulate weights and manufacture cautions in order to orchestrate photo finishes where lesser teams have an even chance to beat beter ones.

- David




>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

Yessir, Nascar will be running at Watkins Glen on August 12th.B  Race is
scheduled to start sometime around 12:30 PM EDT.B  They've been running at the
Glen for years.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 9, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Watkins Glen????
> Jim
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 11:26:27 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:26:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Animated Cartoon from McLaren
Message-ID: <1341941187.15130.YahooMailNeo@web162404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

This is very cool. An animated cartoon with Lewis & Jenson - from the McLaren
animation studios, I guess? 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8-VW-0D2M&feature=youtu.be
 
 - David Booker

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 12:48:50 2012
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:48:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
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One of them Waltrip boys!



________________________________
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 6:40 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia

You racer types out there ought to get a kick out of this.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Spinger


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From nases at verizon.net  Tue Jul 10 13:00:42 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:00:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
Message-ID: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>

I've been using silicone in my Bugeye master for 4 years but I noticed some
fluid on the pedal pads during a long ride yesterday. The MC rubber I had was
supposed to be for use with the silicone but maybe 4 years is too much to
expect.

Anyway if I switch to conventional  fluid what should I flush the system with?
And do I need to replace anything that is currently ok such as hoses or wheel
cylinder rubbers?

I initially used the silicone to help save my paint from mishaps but may
change now.

Thanks.

Phil Nase

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 14:10:03 2012
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:10:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
In-Reply-To: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
References: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OtdMWzA6Dc=_7Sg3-xheQP28C7TyEz45Z2zNnCSv3V7_w@mail.gmail.com>

Phil,

As many listers know, I have never been one for sillycon brake fluid. By
making the switch FROM silicone back to the glycol, my bet is that you will
eventually wind up rebuilding all of the brake system. Maybe not all at
once, but these things don't like change.

The problem is in how the rubber bits absorb the fluid. They are now used
to breathing silicone.

I suggest you rebuild the MC and stay with what you have been using.

If you really want to change, you should flush the system with new, DOT4
brake fluid. After you are certain that everything has been flushed thru,
bleed as normal. And have the rebuild kits on hand for your calipers and
wheel cylinders.

And don't follow too closely for a while, in case you have to stop quick.
Safety Fast!

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> I've been using silicone in my Bugeye master for 4 years but I noticed some
> fluid on the pedal pads during a long ride yesterday. The MC rubber I had
> was
> supposed to be for use with the silicone but maybe 4 years is too much to
> expect.
>
> Anyway if I switch to conventional  fluid what should I flush the system
> with?
> And do I need to replace anything that is currently ok such as hoses or
> wheel
> cylinder rubbers?
>
> I initially used the silicone to help save my paint from mishaps but may
> change now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Jul 10 14:21:20 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:21:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
In-Reply-To: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
References: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <132B5558-C0AB-4DCC-96AB-6DF689EA3FEC@chartermi.net>

Phil,

Unfortunately, it's next to impossible to remove or flush the silicone brake
fluid from your brake system.  Any trace of silicone brake fluid remaining
will react with glycol based brake fluid and form what has been described as
"gelatinous goop".   This goop can plug orifices.  The only surefire way to
completely eliminate it is to replace all of the components of your brake
system, including the lines.  I recommend you repair the leaky bits and
continue to use silicone brake fluid.

Silicone based products are so difficult to clean up that they are banned from
any automotive plant that does any painting.  A few years ago I helped pull
some new coax video cables through a GM plant where they do electrostatic
painting of replacement sheet metal parts.  We had a small jug of a wire slick
product that had .01% silicone in it sitting on our lift.  We hadn't used it,
it was just on the lift.  When the plant guys discovered the wire slick they
just about came unglued and we were nearly thrown off the site.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> I've been using silicone in my Bugeye master for 4 years but I noticed some
> fluid on the pedal pads during a long ride yesterday. The MC rubber I had
was
> supposed to be for use with the silicone but maybe 4 years is too much to
> expect.
>
> Anyway if I switch to conventional  fluid what should I flush the system
with?
> And do I need to replace anything that is currently ok such as hoses or
wheel
> cylinder rubbers?
>
> I initially used the silicone to help save my paint from mishaps but may
> change now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> ------------------------

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Jul 10 14:33:59 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:33:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
Message-ID: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>

I just finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966 
Austin Healey Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets 
I fabricated and modifications to the alternator and voltage 
regulator. I used the VR as a terminal block.

My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the alternator and 
not make mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the mounting 
bracket on the water pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So all 
my mods can easily be "undone" if I or a new owner should want to go 
back to a generator. (why?)

I also updated my wiring diagram to show the new wiring with the 
alternator (and relays I added in my last project). A pic of the 
wiring diagram is included.

The pics are at my Flickr album at the URL below.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jul 10 15:00:36 2012
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:00:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
In-Reply-To: <132B5558-C0AB-4DCC-96AB-6DF689EA3FEC@chartermi.net>
References: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
	<132B5558-C0AB-4DCC-96AB-6DF689EA3FEC@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <051a01cd5edf$0e7d8f00$2b78ad00$@hky.com>

Rick,
Silicone brake fluid and glycol based brake fluids (DOT 5 and DOT 4
respectively) are "chemically incompatible", meaning they will NOT combine
and therefore cannot blend together to form ANYTHING.  This I learned a few
years back, from an article (in Vintage Truck magazine, an EXCELLENT
publication) written by a chemical engineer.  He was pretty specific about
it, as well as pretty adamant.  The guy has his own restoration business,
specializing in vintage trucks, so he's had a lot of experience with this
sort of thing.
Personally, I've gone from glycol to silicone brake fluids, in more than one
vehicle, with no ill effects whatever.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:21 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance

Phil,

Unfortunately, it's next to impossible to remove or flush the silicone brake
fluid from your brake system.  Any trace of silicone brake fluid remaining
will react with glycol based brake fluid and form what has been described as
"gelatinous goop".   This goop can plug orifices.  The only surefire way to
completely eliminate it is to replace all of the components of your brake
system, including the lines.  I recommend you repair the leaky bits and
continue to use silicone brake fluid.

Silicone based products are so difficult to clean up that they are banned
from any automotive plant that does any painting.  A few years ago I helped
pull some new coax video cables through a GM plant where they do
electrostatic painting of replacement sheet metal parts.  We had a small jug
of a wire slick product that had .01% silicone in it sitting on our lift.
We hadn't used it, it was just on the lift.  When the plant guys discovered
the wire slick they just about came unglued and we were nearly thrown off
the site.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> I've been using silicone in my Bugeye master for 4 years but I noticed 
> some fluid on the pedal pads during a long ride yesterday. The MC 
> rubber I had
was
> supposed to be for use with the silicone but maybe 4 years is too much 
> to expect.
>
> Anyway if I switch to conventional  fluid what should I flush the 
> system
with?
> And do I need to replace anything that is currently ok such as hoses 
> or
wheel
> cylinder rubbers?
>
> I initially used the silicone to help save my paint from mishaps but 
> may change now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase 

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 10 15:14:57 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:14:57 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
References: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <55F1708D3FAF43DD84DCC4405C7FE59A@user8634b3d69b>

Phil,

The way I see it is that you will probably have to replace all your rubbers 
and flush the whole system through.  Methylated spirits would be good to 
start with and move onto which ever fluid you intend using.  If DOT 4 is 
your fluid of choice and DOT 3 is much cheaper it would be DOT 3 for the 
final flush.

In laymans terms (mine) the problem is the molecules of silicone fluid (or 
the ordinary brake fluid) soak into the rubbers then, when you put whichever 
is the other fluid in, that too soaks into the rubbers and a reaction starts 
between the fluids and it this which expands and softens the rubber beyond 
normal tolerances.  One fluid on its own does not have the reaction problem.

Silicone fluid does not have the same degree of lubricating properties that 
ordinary brake fluid has and this may have contributed to the leak if there 
is a slight area of roughness between rubbers and metal.  If you decide to 
strip the master cylinder down spend a little time in evaluating where the 
leak has come from.  If the brakes are well worn you may find either 
adjustment or replacing the braking surfaces may place the master cylinder 
parts working back in the 'normal use' area and the leak stops.  Check for 
rust in the lower areas of the m/cyl and whl/cyls.

Some people have changed over fluids without having to replace rubbers with 
some success but I do feel there is a large element of luck in that process. 
Four years is too much to expect.

Best of luck whichever route you take.

Guy R Day






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philip Nase" <nases at verizon.net>
To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance


> I've been using silicone in my Bugeye master for 4 years but I noticed 
> some
> fluid on the pedal pads during a long ride yesterday. The MC rubber I had 
> was
> supposed to be for use with the silicone but maybe 4 years is too much to
> expect.
>
> Anyway if I switch to conventional  fluid what should I flush the system 
> with?
> And do I need to replace anything that is currently ok such as hoses or 
> wheel
> cylinder rubbers?
>
> I initially used the silicone to help save my paint from mishaps but may
> change now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> ------------------------
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Jul 10 15:53:01 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:53:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
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On Jul 10, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Tncarnut1 <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I will also allow that there is skill involved in keeping a dinosaur
balanced on the edge lap after lap. It is just a skill that pales compared to
what is needed on a road course.

If there is so little skill needed and it's so easy to drive in Nascar then
why haven't most of the hot shoe road racers who have gone on to Nascar never
done very well?

Juan Pablo Montoya won the F3000 Championship, the Cart Championship, multiple
F1 races, the Rolex 24 (several times), etc., etc.  But in Nascar he has won
at Watkins Glen, at Sears Point, and Mexico City -all road courses.   Never on
an oval.  Marcos Ambrose won the Australian V8 Supercar Championship twice,
driving courses like the one in the video that started this discourse.  He's
been competing in Nascar for six plus years now and his only win so far was on
a road course.  But no ovals (where you only have to mash the gas and turn
left).  And then there's Danica......   :-)


> Also, since when is a Camry RWD and powered by a pushrod V8? Or many of the
other 'cars' in the field for that matter?

Who gives a rat's patoot if there is no such thing as a street Camry with a
pushrod V8 and RWD?  I'll wager that none of the race cars you enjoy watching
are street cars either.  What difference does it make if there is no real
world counterpart?  Racing is racing.  If Toyota wants to spend the money to
take part in Nascar for the advertising benefits then more power to them.  And
yes, there is a lot of money involved.  Nascar fans spend big money.


> Everybody is obviously welcome to watch whatever they want, I just have
trouble accepting that you should manipulate weights and manufacture cautions
in order to orchestrate photo finishes where lesser teams have an even chance
to beat beter ones.


What does the "manipulate weights" thing mean?  All Nascar race cars go
through tech before a race and the top five after the race.  They have to meet
minimum weight limits and specs on how much each side of the car weighs.
Suspensions can be adjusted during pitstops, but not weights.    Manufacturing
cautions to orchestrate finishes so lesser teams can be more competitive?
Really?  I must have missed that race.  :-)

Bottom line - if you don't like Nascar don't watch it.

Rick

From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jul 10 16:00:09 2012
From: miniac7 at aol.com (Howie)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:00:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
References: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <BB779CE8-8A0E-4F39-BE43-05F0D03CAE8E@aol.com>

I've been considering doing this to my Bugeye. Can you explain the benefits
before I give it further consideration?

Thanks,
Howard Collins

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> I just finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966 Austin
Healey Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets I fabricated and
modifications to the alternator and voltage regulator. I used the VR as a
terminal block.
>
> My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the alternator and not make
mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the mounting bracket on the water
pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So all my mods can easily be
"undone" if I or a new owner should want to go back to a generator. (why?)
>
> I also updated my wiring diagram to show the new wiring with the alternator
(and relays I added in my last project). A pic of the wiring diagram is
included.
>
> The pics are at my Flickr album at the URL below.
>
> Tim Collins
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>
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From pvanwig at mac.com  Tue Jul 10 16:42:09 2012
From: pvanwig at mac.com (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:42:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
References: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <6288232B-3E2B-481A-94E7-B31F68CC640B@mac.com>

Very nice

Paul Van Wig
Long Beach/Big Bear, CA
pvanwig at mac dot com

68 Minor Woody
59 Metropolitan (the wife's ride )
60 Bugeye (awaiting time to work on it)


On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

I just finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966 Austin Healey Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets I fabricated and modifications to the alternator and voltage regulator. I used the VR as a terminal block.

My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the alternator and not make mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the mounting bracket on the water pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So all my mods can easily be "undone" if I or a new owner should want to go back to a generator. (why?)

I also updated my wiring diagram to show the new wiring with the alternator (and relays I added in my last project). A pic of the wiring diagram is included.

The pics are at my Flickr album at the URL below.

Tim Collins
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Jul 10 16:52:38 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:52:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <BB779CE8-8A0E-4F39-BE43-05F0D03CAE8E@aol.com>
References: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
	<BB779CE8-8A0E-4F39-BE43-05F0D03CAE8E@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4ffcb27b.c539320a.7372.11b4@mx.google.com>

Howard,

The very last picture is a performance comparison between my 
generator and the new alternator. The graph shows that the alternator 
puts out a higher voltage at lower RPM's and the high voltage is 
consistent across all RPM ranges above idle. Then I don't have to 
think about the mechanical voltage regulator. Critics will say that I 
have just exchanged mechanical voltage regulation for electrical 
regulation and both can fail. Ya, that's true, but I feel that there 
is a good reason that all modern cars have alternators rather than 
generators. The brushes in generators carry a high current while the 
"brushes" in an alternator carry very little current and that's good.

I left my radio on once and found the battery dead. I put the charger 
on for a short while then went shopping with my wife. The battery 
didn't get charged enough to start the car when we wanted to leave 
the fruit market. My wife ended up pushing the car so I could pop the 
clutch to start the car. Only had to go a few feet, but she's a tiny 
person. On the plus side we had a woman come running over to offer to 
help push. She said she'd had to do that to cars she owned. Just then 
the car started. I think with an alternator the battery might have 
been up to par with the short drive - at least enough to restart.

The car idles a few hundred RPM's lower now too. That surprised me. 
Still thinking that one through. Theoretically the spark should be a 
bit hotter as the coil now sees a consistently higher voltage.

Mainly, and most importantly, this was a project! I like doing 
projects and am sad when they are over. Now I'm trying to think up 
the next one. Projects are good!

At 06:00 PM 7/10/2012, you wrote:
>I've been considering doing this to my Bugeye. Can you explain the 
>benefits before I give it further consideration?
>
>Thanks,
>Howard Collins

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jul 10 17:04:15 2012
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:04:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
Message-ID: <25f26.32242fad.3d2e0eef@aol.com>

Tim,
 
Thanks so much for the explanation. Based upon that, I'm going to give my  
potential conversion additional consideration. My deal is I don't have a 
stereo  in the Bugeye and I hardly ever drive it at night, or in the rain.  
Consequently, I'm not usually straining my electrical system to greatly...  
with the exception of brake and signal lights and the occasional horn  toot.
 
Thanks again,
Howard
 
PS: If it's a project you want, come to my place and help me put the Mk1  
back together. Or, were you talking about you own projects...  




 
In a message dated 7/10/2012 6:53:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
thcollin at mtu.edu writes:

Howard,

The very last picture is a performance comparison  between my 
generator and the new alternator. The graph shows that the  alternator 
puts out a higher voltage at lower RPM's and the high voltage  is 
consistent across all RPM ranges above idle. Then I don't have to  
think about the mechanical voltage regulator. Critics will say that I  
have just exchanged mechanical voltage regulation for electrical  
regulation and both can fail. Ya, that's true, but I feel that there  
is a good reason that all modern cars have alternators rather than  
generators. The brushes in generators carry a high current while the  
"brushes" in an alternator carry very little current and that's  good.

I left my radio on once and found the battery dead. I put the  charger 
on for a short while then went shopping with my wife. The battery  
didn't get charged enough to start the car when we wanted to leave 
the  fruit market. My wife ended up pushing the car so I could pop the 
clutch  to start the car. Only had to go a few feet, but she's a tiny 
person. On  the plus side we had a woman come running over to offer to 
help push. She  said she'd had to do that to cars she owned. Just then 
the car started. I  think with an alternator the battery might have 
been up to par with the  short drive - at least enough to restart.

The car idles a few hundred  RPM's lower now too. That surprised me. 
Still thinking that one through.  Theoretically the spark should be a 
bit hotter as the coil now sees a  consistently higher voltage.

Mainly, and most importantly, this was a  project! I like doing 
projects and am sad when they are over. Now I'm  trying to think up 
the next one. Projects are good!

At 06:00 PM  7/10/2012, you wrote:
>I've been considering doing this to my Bugeye.  Can you explain the 
>benefits before I give it further  consideration?
>
>Thanks,
>Howard Collins

Tim  Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/  

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 18:07:43 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:07:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <1341965263.22085.YahooMailClassic@web163106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Tim,
 
Nice job on your conversion.
I boughta bracket like the one you made.
Mine is one piece of metal with a bent ear to mount the alternator.
No welding involved. I was also able to use my original adjustment bracket
with the Bosch I was told i might need to get a different one.
I gote on hand from the hot rod parts store in my rea.
-

--- On Tue, 7/10/12, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:


From: Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 1:33 PM


I just finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966 Austin
Healey Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets I fabricated and
modifications to the alternator and voltage regulator. I used the VR as a
terminal block.

My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the alternator and not make
mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the mounting bracket on the water
pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So all my mods can easily be
"undone" if I or a new owner should want to go back to a generator. (why?)

I also updated my wiring diagram to show the new wiring with the alternator
(and relays I added in my last project). A pic of the wiring diagram is
included.

The pics are at my Flickr album at the URL below.

Tim Collins
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 18:16:51 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:16:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <BB779CE8-8A0E-4F39-BE43-05F0D03CAE8E@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1341965811.21346.YahooMailClassic@web163106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Howie.
 
Look at his chart - last photo for out put levels.
The best part is you get 14 volts at idle from the alternator.
Gerard , Steve Christiansen & others have different solutions for installing
an alternator.
The best part is no dim lights at night. They are actually brighter. Which
means your safer.
You can also run your heater, radio & other things all at once.
There is no more drain on the battery.
Wth even a excellent generator you never get good voltage unless your at
speed.

 

From: Howie <miniac7 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
To: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 3:00 PM


I've been considering doing this to my Bugeye. Can you explain the benefits
before I give it further consideration?

Thanks,
Howard Collins

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> I just finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966 Austin
Healey Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets I fabricated
and
modifications to the alternator and voltage regulator. I used the VR as a
terminal block.
>
> My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the alternator and not make
mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the mounting bracket on the water
pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So all my mods can easily be
"undone" if I or a new owner should want to go back to a generator. (why?)
>
> I also updated my wiring diagram to show the new wiring with the alternator
(and relays I added in my last project). A pic of the wiring diagram is
included.
>
> The pics are at my Flickr album at the URL below.
>
> Tim Collins
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 21:05:15 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:05:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Racing in Australia
In-Reply-To: <54A3C2F0-3E0D-4266-A78A-7380128C340D@chartermi.net>
References: <uv5voo5rawt96y55toojqk6u.1341923633721@email.android.com>
	<54A3C2F0-3E0D-4266-A78A-7380128C340D@chartermi.net>
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Rick, I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, but NASCAR's "manufactured"
cautions to bunch the field up for the final laps have regularly been featured
in the news for years. (see the 3 links Google and I found in about 30 seconds
below) I know that NASCAR denies it, but it is a common story from many
sources including from the drivers themselves.  As for the weight thing, I was
referring to adding weight as a penalty. I admit it has been many years since
I've followed NASCAR (even tho I went to that one race a couple of years ago
at the Glen), so maybe they don't do this anymore. But I seem to remember they
used to make consistently fast teams add weight to equal out the field. This
could easily have been from back when all the cars were in fact different
cars. Back when Smokey Yunick was involved and when if the rule book did not
specifically say you could not do something, it meant that you could do it if
you were smart enough to figure it
 out.
 
I used to love NASCAR when I was a kid and they were called Stock
Cars. All the cars were different from each other, and the term "win on
Sunday, sell on Monday" meant something. There are many classes raced in SCCA
and American LeMans series for instance like this now. You're right - these
guys are for the most part not racing the same thing you can buy off the new
car lot, but they are very similar. The 4 cylinder Acuras or Fords or
Volkswagens, the rotary Mazdas, six cylinder Porsches and BMWs, or V8
Mustangs, Camaros and Corvettes race with the same type of engine driving the
same wheels as the cars on the street. That just appeals to me far more than a
spec series where the cars are only painted to look like something on the
street. Doesn't make it good or bad, just doesn't hold any interest at all for
me (except when they run on a road course and the skillset required is
ratcheted up a few notches). 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSIDAJyxlvc
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyOvkG0XWyA&feature=relmfu
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2012-04-30/nascar-caution-flags-debr
is-caution-tony-stewart-carl-edwards-richmond

David

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Jul 10 21:57:50 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:57:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
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	<4ffcb27b.c539320a.7372.11b4@mx.google.com>
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Have your Lucas mechanical voltage regulator converted to electronic 
regulation inside it and you will get a better charging rate and 
reliability.  http://www.wiltonae.com/

With the generator and regulator in great shape and a higher wattage 
headlight you should be easily seen and see easily.  Who needs a radio as 
the exh sound is music

Leo

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tim Collins
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:52 PM
To: Howie
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternator Project

Howard,

The very last picture is a performance comparison between my
generator and the new alternator. The graph shows that the alternator
puts out a higher voltage at lower RPM's and the high voltage is
consistent across all RPM ranges above idle. Then I don't have to
think about the mechanical voltage regulator. Critics will say that I
have just exchanged mechanical voltage regulation for electrical
regulation and both can fail. Ya, that's true, but I feel that there
is a good reason that all modern cars have alternators rather than
generators. The brushes in generators carry a high current while the
"brushes" in an alternator carry very little current and that's good.

I left my radio on once and found the battery dead. I put the charger
on for a short while then went shopping with my wife. The battery
didn't get charged enough to start the car when we wanted to leave
the fruit market. My wife ended up pushing the car so I could pop the
clutch to start the car. Only had to go a few feet, but she's a tiny
person. On the plus side we had a woman come running over to offer to
help push. She said she'd had to do that to cars she owned. Just then
the car started. I think with an alternator the battery might have
been up to par with the short drive - at least enough to restart.

The car idles a few hundred RPM's lower now too. That surprised me.
Still thinking that one through. Theoretically the spark should be a
bit hotter as the coil now sees a consistently higher voltage.

Mainly, and most importantly, this was a project! I like doing
projects and am sad when they are over. Now I'm trying to think up
the next one. Projects are good!

At 06:00 PM 7/10/2012, you wrote:
>I've been considering doing this to my Bugeye. Can you explain the benefits 
>before I give it further consideration?
>
>Thanks,
>Howard Collins

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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Wed Jul 11 01:49:34 2012
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:49:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1092.1341965129.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1092.1341965129.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <F17241AE-60DB-4632-98B2-3F04D03EA38C@gerardsgarage.com>

Nicely done and well documented Tim.

I use a Saturn alternator (I have done this conversion on MGA's,  
MGB's, Spridgets and Morris Minors, all of which use the standard  
brackets/hardware. I also convert them to 1 wire, making the install  
even easier.

http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/alternatorTfisher.htm

The lower right picture is the install in my Morris pickup.

Gerard


On Jul 10, 2012, at 5:05 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:33:59 -0400
> From: Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
> Message-ID: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> I just finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966
> Austin Healey Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets
> I fabricated and modifications to the alternator and voltage
> regulator. I used the VR as a terminal block.
>
> My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the alternator and
> not make mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the mounting
> bracket on the water pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So all
> my mods can easily be "undone" if I or a new owner should want to go
> back to a generator. (why?)
>
> I also updated my wiring diagram to show the new wiring with the
> alternator (and relays I added in my last project). A pic of the
> wiring diagram is included.
>
> The pics are at my Flickr album at the URL below.
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 07:54:29 2012
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:54:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
In-Reply-To: <B2F8177A-72D0-4886-A391-A2BBB5DD0E7C@verizon.net>
References: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
	<CAMEj5OtdMWzA6Dc=_7Sg3-xheQP28C7TyEz45Z2zNnCSv3V7_w@mail.gmail.com>
	<B2F8177A-72D0-4886-A391-A2BBB5DD0E7C@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OsngU9pn6nKKYu85akEhMM_eCMRFxTsu5oJd8PF027VHA@mail.gmail.com>

And one other thought, Phil. Glycol based brake fluid is hygroscopic, so it
attracts water. Make sure you flush the brake (and clutch) system every two
years to replace the old fluid. Racers do that after every race.

In my old Mitsubishi I didn't do this and lost brakes in the PA foothills.
Loads of fun trying to slow down into the Hegins valley. When I got home, I
flushed the system and the fluid was blood red with rust.

Changing the fluid is not as important with silicone, but I still like
glycol better. It gives a better pedal feel, and IF there is any water in
the system from humidity in the air, it won't pool at low points in the
brake pipes as it will with silicone fluid. Silicone brake fluid is
hygrophobic.

BTW, Castrol GT LMA brake fluid is DOT 4, so it has a higher boiling point
than the cheaper DOT 3. Stick with the good stuff.

(How'm I doin', Ed?)

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> Thanks Allen.  I thought that might be the news I would get.  I just put a
> 5 speed in and bled the clutch manually and with an EZ bleed over 5 times
> and still had only a "so-so" pedal.  Yesterday the seeping started.  I
> can't seem to keep anything I fix on this car to stay fixed.  Funny thing
> is that the brake pedal is good, hopefully for a little while longer.
>
> I thought I might have to flush it with alcohol but didn't know which
> kind.  But if I can flush it with DOT4 that's good I still have a bunch on
> the shelf unopened.  Wheel cylinder rubbers are pretty cheap I think.
>
>
>     Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>
>
>
>  On Jul 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Allen Hefner wrote:
>
>  Phil,
>
> As many listers know, I have never been one for sillycon brake fluid. By
> making the switch FROM silicone back to the glycol, my bet is that you will
> eventually wind up rebuilding all of the brake system. Maybe not all at
> once, but these things don't like change.
>
> The problem is in how the rubber bits absorb the fluid. They are now used
> to breathing silicone.
>
> I suggest you rebuild the MC and stay with what you have been using.
>
> If you really want to change, you should flush the system with new, DOT4
> brake fluid. After you are certain that everything has been flushed thru,
> bleed as normal. And have the rebuild kits on hand for your calipers and
> wheel cylinders.
>
> And don't follow too closely for a while, in case you have to stop quick.
> Safety Fast!
>
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul 11 08:45:09 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:45:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OsngU9pn6nKKYu85akEhMM_eCMRFxTsu5oJd8PF027VHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F38417C0-E2C1-4EAF-9CE8-1FB79BF3078B@verizon.net>
	<CAMEj5OtdMWzA6Dc=_7Sg3-xheQP28C7TyEz45Z2zNnCSv3V7_w@mail.gmail.com>
	<B2F8177A-72D0-4886-A391-A2BBB5DD0E7C@verizon.net>
	<CAMEj5OsngU9pn6nKKYu85akEhMM_eCMRFxTsu5oJd8PF027VHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FFD9175.6060704@justbrits.com>

<<  On 7/11/2012 8:54 AM, Allen Hefner wrote:

(How'm I doin', Ed?)  >>

Triple A+, Allen ! ! !

BTW, if one doesn't have an eeZiBleed, you haven't done the EASIEST job there is <G> ! ! !
  
Me

From lists at dinospider.com  Wed Jul 11 08:54:57 2012
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:54:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <4ffcb27b.c539320a.7372.11b4@mx.google.com>
References: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
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  Wait, you sat on your lazy ass and let HER push ?  geez, I thought I 
had a great wife but mine would have never done that, she would sat and 
popped the clutch while I pushed.

   Mike (ok maybe you are not lazy, just smart)

On 07/10/2012 03:52 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
> I left my radio on once and found the battery dead. I put the charger 
> on for a short while then went shopping with my wife. The battery 
> didn't get charged enough to start the car when we wanted to leave the 
> fruit market. My wife ended up pushing the car so I could pop the 
> clutch to start the car. Only had to go a few feet, but she's a tiny 
> person. On the plus side we had a woman come running over to offer to 
> help push. She said she'd had to do that to cars she owned. Just then 
> the car started. I think with an alternator the battery might have 
> been up to par with the short drive - at least enough to restart.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul 11 10:30:53 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:30:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
Message-ID: <6ddc.2d24b5af.3d2f043d@aol.com>

Very neat.  Are you going to swap the water pump pulley for a  pre-smog 
pulley?
 
In a message dated 10/07/2012 22:21:31 GMT Daylight Time, thcollin at mtu.edu  
writes:

I just  finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966 
Austin Healey  Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets 
I fabricated and  modifications to the alternator and voltage 
regulator. I used the VR as a  terminal block.

My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the  alternator and 
not make mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the  mounting 
bracket on the water pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So  all 
my mods can easily be "undone" if I or a new owner should want to go  
back to a generator. (why?)

I also updated my wiring diagram to  show the new wiring with the 
alternator (and relays I added in my last  project). A pic of the 
wiring diagram is included.

The pics are at  my Flickr album at the URL below.

Tim  Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/  
------------------------

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul 11 10:51:47 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
Message-ID: <7a14.1ae28480.3d2f0923@aol.com>

A generator cannot generate enough power for 130 watts main beam and  100 
watts dipped headlights (and sidelights etc) unless it overcharges the  
battery at those times when the headlights aren't on. 
 
 
In a message dated 11/07/2012 05:49:21 GMT Daylight Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:

Have  your Lucas mechanical voltage regulator converted to electronic 
regulation  inside it and you will get a better charging rate and 
reliability.   http://www.wiltonae.com/

With the generator and regulator in great  shape and a higher wattage 
headlight you should be easily seen and see  easily.  Who needs a radio as 
the exh sound is  music

Leo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul 11 10:55:02 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:55:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder maintenance
Message-ID: <7bdb.19115324.3d2f09e6@aol.com>

Racers do that when using a racing brake fluid which goes off to the wet  
value far quicker than a road use fluid does.
 
 
In a message dated 11/07/2012 15:16:26 GMT Daylight Time, lbc77mg at gmail.com 
 writes:

And one  other thought, Phil. Glycol based brake fluid is hygroscopic, so  
it
attracts water. Make sure you flush the brake (and clutch) system every  two
years to replace the old fluid. Racers do that after every  race.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul 11 11:01:16 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:01:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weight penalties in racing Re:  Racing in Australia
Message-ID: <7f84.1901c4d.3d2f0b5b@aol.com>

A lot of racing series have weight penalties to try and keep the racing as  
close as possible.  So much weight for a win, 2nd, 3rd, to be kept for so  
many races.  I think in some British series rear wheel drive cars have a  
weight penalty that front wheel drive cars don't, etc.
 
There is a view that close racing and one make series make for interesting  
racing though I'd rather see lots of very different looking cars racing at 
vary  speeds, providing a challenge for faster cars when looking to lap a 
slower car  mid corner.
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/07/2012 04:37:16 GMT Daylight Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

As for  the weight thing, I was
referring to adding weight as a penalty. I admit it  has been many years 
since
I've followed NASCAR (even tho I went to that one  race a couple of years 
ago
at the Glen), so maybe they don't do this  anymore. But I seem to remember 
they
used to make consistently fast teams  add weight to equal out the field.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 11:17:47 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:17:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <4FFD93C1.3050006@dinospider.com>
References: <4ffc9201.21d4320a.6266.01a1@mx.google.com>
	<BB779CE8-8A0E-4F39-BE43-05F0D03CAE8E@aol.com>
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	<4FFD93C1.3050006@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r94YQovUgy1-+Cm+6s-hDn1aEbrzbpkTbXsaaU-Wj0Vvg@mail.gmail.com>

I gave a co-worker a call Sunday. .I know he goes to Wally World with his
wife, around the time I called.
The next day, he tells me, "I was on the phone with you. I was looking at
your wife and daughter, talking with MY wife and daughter. I thought, what
is wrong with this picture. I am here, and you are home."
I told him "I guess I'm just smarter than you."
LOL

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Mike Rambour <lists at dinospider.com> wrote:

>  Wait, you sat on your lazy ass and let HER push ?  geez, I thought I had
> a great wife but mine would have never done that, she would sat and popped
> the clutch while I pushed.
>
>   Mike (ok maybe you are not lazy, just smart)
>
> On 07/10/2012 03:52 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
>
>> I left my radio on once and found the battery dead. I put the charger on
>> for a short while then went shopping with my wife. The battery didn't get
>> charged enough to start the car when we wanted to leave the fruit market.
>> My wife ended up pushing the car so I could pop the clutch to start the
>> car. Only had to go a few feet, but she's a tiny person. On the plus side
>> we had a woman come running over to offer to help push. She said she'd had
>> to do that to cars she owned. Just then the car started. I think with an
>> alternator the battery might have been up to par with the short drive - at
>> least enough to restart.
>>
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Jul 11 18:02:54 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:02:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
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	<4ffcb27b.c539320a.7372.11b4@mx.google.com>
	<4FFD93C1.3050006@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <4ffe14ad.42a8320a.73b4.2a88@mx.google.com>

Wife says; "Tell those guys I'd rather push than do the "pop the 
clutch" thing in a crowded parking lot." Would have been nice to get 
a picture of the event, but I'm not stupid!

At 10:54 AM 7/11/2012, Mike Rambour wrote:
>  Wait, you sat on your lazy ass and let HER push ?  geez, I thought 
> I had a great wife but mine would have never done that, she would 
> sat and popped the clutch while I pushed.
>
>   Mike (ok maybe you are not lazy, just smart)
>

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 21:20:17 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
In-Reply-To: <6ddc.2d24b5af.3d2f043d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1342063217.99163.YahooMailClassic@web163106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

i could use a smog pulley if some one has one laying around.
A friend is putting air on his car for driving to the Colorado river.
The temps are over 100 there high of the year.
I think he is crazy - but to each there own.

--- On Wed, 7/11/12, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
wrote:


From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternator Project
To: thcollin at mtu.edu, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 9:30 AM


Very neat.  Are you going to swap the water pump pulley for a  pre-smog
pulley?

In a message dated 10/07/2012 22:21:31 GMT Daylight Time, thcollin at mtu.edu 
writes:

I just  finished a "generator to alternator" conversion on my 1966
Austin Healey  Sprite. I took pics along the way showing the brackets
I fabricated and  modifications to the alternator and voltage
regulator. I used the VR as a  terminal block.

My philosophy along the way was to make mods to the  alternator and
not make mods to the Sprite - like not shaving away the  mounting
bracket on the water pump to get the belt in proper alignment. So  all
my mods can easily be "undone" if I or a new owner should want to go 
back to a generator. (why?)

I also updated my wiring diagram to  show the new wiring with the
alternator (and relays I added in my last  project). A pic of the
wiring diagram is included.

The pics are at  my Flickr album at the URL below.

Tim  Collins
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 12 11:36:10 2012
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:36:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Score One for the Good Guys!
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0ydZsP5Rx_RTL5zB+ib0dQjQnBcf1QPYzgQcPJ+vF=+Hg@mail.gmail.com>

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-man-finds-stolen-car-42-years-later-203003133--abc-news-topstories.html

-- 
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1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 12 11:46:32 2012
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:46:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Water Temp Gauge Problem
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEKtGnyBaD2j=GdfRS5Cf8TqLty_Sy=GT0V8W+UCtOMrsA@mail.gmail.com>

My original water temp included within the oil pressure gauge stopped
working.  For a temporary fix I installed an under dash water temp unit
from the auto parts store.

I was able to make the unit fit my head without damaging the threads . .
and it is reading in accordance with my thermostat when the thermostat
opens up . . if nothing else it might serve as a warning if my temp gets
too high.  (The included adapters did not fit of course and the adapters
are typically necessary as they form the seal).

Does anyone have a good reference on who rebuilds gauges and what it might
cost to have this done so that I can go back to the original set up?

I wish there was a way I could buy a new line to the original temp gauge as
I think the problem is with the sender line when I pulled my engine the
last time around.  The internal wire on the original unit is ok. .  but I
noticed a spot where the surrounding coiled wire was broken . . and I am
not sure if this break would cause the problem.

Any input is certainly appreciated.

Thanks . . .

Kirk

1275 59

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 12 13:09:56 2012
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:09:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Forward message From Glen Byrns - Sad News Re.
	Garage Fire
Message-ID: <CAMyxPELtC9qwgAJLH1+z=MqH0_33ot2z9P=jptKT5RgKYqUPsg@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Subject: Forward message?
To: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>


Hi Kirk, I'm hoping you can forward this to the Spridget list since I can't
seem to post for now.

Monday night we had a garage fire. Wife, dog and I are all fine. Sadly, The
turbo bugeye and the Morris woody were badly damaged, the Morris pickup was
slightly heat damaged in the driveway.  AAA says the Sprite and the woody
will be totaled. Naturally I'll be rebuilding them eventually on the
insurance settlement. But for now we'll be out of our house for 6 months. I
have some very depressing photos to post after things calm down a bit.


Glen Byrns

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Jul 12 16:24:26 2012
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:24:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for complete rear axle housing.
Message-ID: <74DCCDA2-D39B-4ADB-BE11-030847BC9595@gerardsgarage.com>

I'm looking for a complete rear axle housing, (hub to hub) from an AH  
Sprite/MG Midget with later brake setup and 3.9 diff. Preferably, one  
that can be found on the west coast, but let me know what you have. I  
doun't really need the housing, but want the later axles, all the  
brake stuff and 3.9 diff.

Helping out a friend in NorCal, so any help appreciated. NFI

Thanks!

Gerard

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Jul 11 19:28:08 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Video
Message-ID: <1342056488.47372.YahooMailClassic@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Are we really this old.  I found this 1969 version of David Bowie's Space
Oddity.  I think it is the earliest film of David Bowie I have ever seen.  You
can hardly recognize him and I certainly don't remember this song being this
old! Enjoy
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer



http://youtu.be/D67kmFzSh_o

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 12 20:20:56 2012
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:20:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Water Temp Gauge Problem
Message-ID: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>

Kirk,
A friend/co-worker of mine found instructions online of how to take the
bulb/tube off a new cheap gauge and fix the old gauge.

http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge

I can check at work tomorrow and see if he did anything else special...


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:47 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Water Temp Gauge Problem

My original water temp included within the oil pressure gauge stopped
working.  For a temporary fix I installed an under dash water temp unit
from the auto parts store.

I was able to make the unit fit my head without damaging the threads . .
and it is reading in accordance with my thermostat when the thermostat
opens up . . if nothing else it might serve as a warning if my temp gets
too high.  (The included adapters did not fit of course and the adapters
are typically necessary as they form the seal).

Does anyone have a good reference on who rebuilds gauges and what it might
cost to have this done so that I can go back to the original set up?

I wish there was a way I could buy a new line to the original temp gauge as
I think the problem is with the sender line when I pulled my engine the
last time around.  The internal wire on the original unit is ok. .  but I
noticed a spot where the surrounding coiled wire was broken . . and I am
not sure if this break would cause the problem.

Any input is certainly appreciated.

Thanks . . .

Kirk

1275 59
------------------------

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Thu Jul 12 20:26:19 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:26:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Video
In-Reply-To: <1342056488.47372.YahooMailClassic@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1342146379.65556.YahooMailClassic@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Right after I sent this I realized I "found" this on Facebook in an entry from
Mark Bradakis.  Give credit where credit is due.
Mike MacLean

--- On Thu, 7/12/12, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:

From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Video
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 1:28 AM

Are we really this old.  I found this 1969 version of David Bowie's Space
Oddity.  I think it is the earliest film of David Bowie I have ever seen. 
You
can hardly recognize him and I certainly don't remember this song being this
old! Enjoy
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer



http://youtu.be/D67kmFzSh_o
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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Jul 13 06:25:06 2012
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:25:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Score One for the Good Guys!
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0ydZsP5Rx_RTL5zB+ib0dQjQnBcf1QPYzgQcPJ+vF=+Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Xq+0ydZsP5Rx_RTL5zB+ib0dQjQnBcf1QPYzgQcPJ+vF=+Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00f801cd60f2$89f1f4e0$9dd5dea0$@hky.com>

Great story, Kent.  I wonder if the car's whereabouts, over the past 42
years, can be traced.  It would be fascinating to learn where it has been.

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:36 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Score One for the Good Guys!

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-man-finds-stolen-car-42-years-later-203003133--a
bc-news-topstories.html

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2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Jul 13 08:19:57 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:19:57 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Herald Convertible -anyone interested in one?
Message-ID: <20120713.081957.6626.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

One of the guys in my area's wife got it from her grand dad and drove it until
it needed new brakes, then parked it. I haven't looked at it, I thought that
I'd check the desirability with you all first-It's a '67 with a 1293 (I
think).
Anyone interested? I'll look if you are and report back.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

____________________________________________________________
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The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 13 09:04:02 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:04:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS  Philly CL
Message-ID: <20120713150411.D9AA59A455A@mx2.netinteraction.com>

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3099112606.html


On the MG Experience he says he would consider partial trade for a 
"square body"   (sorry Jay)


NFI  Peter C

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 09:28:45 2012
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:28:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A Big Thanks Regarding My Question Concerning My Water
 Temp Gauge
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEK0N4JfpiqwuGL92FODm1YUDv=c3jv7N9yis22=msrH7A@mail.gmail.com>

I just wanted to thank Walt, Dean, Tim and Rick Fisk for their response to
me on the water temp gauge question.  I also did not know how the line
functioned, the tube that is filled with ether which expands, contracts to
indicate the temp . . interesting information.

This is the most incredible list of support that anyone could imagine.  I
got info on how the unit works, how I might be able to rebuild it myself,
and who to send it to for a pro rebuild . . can't get any better than that!

Thanks again,

Kirk

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 10:43:42 2012
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:43:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp Gauge Problem
In-Reply-To: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>
References: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <CALKVWq97_U0GE4k73wJ-UW7auXT8fh6hm_fE653e+qESw8=WKw@mail.gmail.com>

I did this repair and it worked well. I did use a dry ice alcohol bath to
keep the bulb cold.

Brian
On Jul 13, 2012 1:05 AM, "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Kirk,
> A friend/co-worker of mine found instructions online of how to take the
> bulb/tube off a new cheap gauge and fix the old gauge.
>
> http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge
>
> I can check at work tomorrow and see if he did anything else special...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:47 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Water Temp Gauge Problem
>
> My original water temp included within the oil pressure gauge stopped
> working.  For a temporary fix I installed an under dash water temp unit
> from the auto parts store.
>
> I was able to make the unit fit my head without damaging the threads . .
> and it is reading in accordance with my thermostat when the thermostat
> opens up . . if nothing else it might serve as a warning if my temp gets
> too high.  (The included adapters did not fit of course and the adapters
> are typically necessary as they form the seal).
>
> Does anyone have a good reference on who rebuilds gauges and what it might
> cost to have this done so that I can go back to the original set up?
>
> I wish there was a way I could buy a new line to the original temp gauge as
> I think the problem is with the sender line when I pulled my engine the
> last time around.  The internal wire on the original unit is ok. .  but I
> noticed a spot where the surrounding coiled wire was broken . . and I am
> not sure if this break would cause the problem.
>
> Any input is certainly appreciated.
>
> Thanks . . .
>
> Kirk
>
> 1275 59
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From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Jul 13 11:57:30 2012
From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:57:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS  Philly CL
In-Reply-To: <20120713150411.D9AA59A455A@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20120713150411.D9AA59A455A@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <945AAB39-7824-413C-98B8-2F8776AA5391@mac.com>

Telford is kinda close to me, but closer to Phil if anyone wants some on to
take a look.

Larry

On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3099112606.html
>
>
> On the MG Experience he says he would consider partial trade for a "square
body"   (sorry Jay)
>
>
> NFI  Peter C
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Jul 13 12:55:45 2012
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:55:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1949 Riley RMB British Motors Project
Message-ID: <50006fa3.07b3320a.019f.5734@mx.google.com>

On Craigs list in Saginaw MI. Needs engine and a lot of other work. 
$3200 or offer/trade.
<http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/3136321294.html>http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/3136321294.html 


What engine did these use? Riley became part of BMC eventually.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 13:32:51 2012
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:32:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp Gauge Problem
In-Reply-To: <CALKVWq97_U0GE4k73wJ-UW7auXT8fh6hm_fE653e+qESw8=WKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>
	<CALKVWq97_U0GE4k73wJ-UW7auXT8fh6hm_fE653e+qESw8=WKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvTcePGcEP6Sp3255K6cC3kt7VzJx9LA9f+n9yCtTxfNmg@mail.gmail.com>

I also made that repair many years ago.  It is still holding.
-Trevor

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, brian <daredelvis at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did this repair and it worked well. I did use a dry ice alcohol bath to
> keep the bulb cold.
>
> Brian
> On Jul 13, 2012 1:05 AM, "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Kirk,
> > A friend/co-worker of mine found instructions online of how to take the
> > bulb/tube off a new cheap gauge and fix the old gauge.
> >
> > http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge
> >
> > I can check at work tomorrow and see if he did anything else special...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:47 PM
> > To: Spridgets
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Water Temp Gauge Problem
> >
> > My original water temp included within the oil pressure gauge stopped
> > working.  For a temporary fix I installed an under dash water temp unit
> > from the auto parts store.
> >
> > I was able to make the unit fit my head without damaging the threads . .
> > and it is reading in accordance with my thermostat when the thermostat
> > opens up . . if nothing else it might serve as a warning if my temp gets
> > too high.  (The included adapters did not fit of course and the adapters
> > are typically necessary as they form the seal).
> >
> > Does anyone have a good reference on who rebuilds gauges and what it
> might
> > cost to have this done so that I can go back to the original set up?
> >
> > I wish there was a way I could buy a new line to the original temp gauge
> as
> > I think the problem is with the sender line when I pulled my engine the
> > last time around.  The internal wire on the original unit is ok. .  but I
> > noticed a spot where the surrounding coiled wire was broken . . and I am
> > not sure if this break would cause the problem.
> >
> > Any input is certainly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks . . .
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> > 1275 59
> > ------------------------
> > ------------------------
> >
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 13 15:54:23 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:54:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1949 Riley RMB British Motors Project
In-Reply-To: <50006fa3.07b3320a.019f.5734@mx.google.com>
References: <50006fa3.07b3320a.019f.5734@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <BBFB7F1F-ECD7-4658-ABA9-F2EA5607F823@chartermi.net>

Weren't you looking for a project Tim?  :-)

BTW, If anyone is interested I live about 15 miles from this car and could
take a look at it.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> On Craigs list in Saginaw MI. Needs engine and a lot of other work.
> $3200 or offer/trade.
>
<http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/3136321294.html>http://saginaw.craigslist.
org/cto/3136321294.html
>
>
> What engine did these use? Riley became part of BMC eventually.
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/
> ------------------------

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 13 16:41:55 2012
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:41:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Repair - Water Temp Gauge Problem
Message-ID: <D3ACC0B25DBB414B8FD56736F3677B78@HomeComputer>

http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge

Follow the steps outlined on the '33 Plymouth web page with the following
additional steps/warnings.

 

       Make the splice piece to join the new and old capillary tubes well in
advance of when you start the gauge repair work.  Make at least two splice
pieces.  Use calipers and number drills to make the inside holes of the
splice piece as close to each tube diameter as possible.  You do not want
"big" gaps between the splice piece and the capillary tubes.  

      You will be tempted to make the splice piece as short as possible.
Don't.  Make it about 1" long so it will be harder for the solder to wick
all the way to the center of the splice.

      If the donor gauge and old gauge have a spring wound around the
capillary tube, use a C-clamp and blocks of plastic/rubber/leather to hold
the spring "back" from where you cut the tube so the new and old springs can
be twisted together later without stretching the springs.

      With the spring pulled back, tin the capillary tube with solder before
you cut it. 

      DO NOT cut the donor capillary tube until the expansion bulb is as
cold as you can get it.  Dry ice is an alternative to the salt bath method
shown in the Plymouth link.  Use a separate thermometer to check the
temperature of the cold bath and make SURE the temperature is well below
freezing before you cut the donor gauge's tube.  Below 0 oF is best.

      Once you cut the capillary tubes, file the cut end square and remove
burrs from the diameter.  Make sure the cut end will go into the splice
piece.

      Use TINY number drills to open the bore hole in the middle of the
capillary tubing.  Cutting and filing the ends of the tubes can cause the
hole to close or be blocked off.  The center hole of the tubing MUST be open
before soldering the splice.

      When soldering the splice piece in place, make sure you have nice
fillets of solder between the splice and the capillary tubes.  HOWEVER,
solder as quickly as possible.  Apply heat for the minimum length of time
possible.  You do not want the solder to wick deeply into the splice piece
as it can plug the ends of the capillary tubes inside the splice.

      Once the splice is soldered in place, remove the expansion bulb from
the cold bath and apply heat (hair dryer, propane torch, heat gun.).  You
need to confirm that the splice is not plugged with solder.  If the gauge
stays "cold" after the bulb is warm/hot to the touch, the capillary tube is
plugged and you need to remove the splice piece and start over.  That is why
I suggest making at least two splice pieces before you start the repair
process.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jul 13 17:34:49 2012
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:34:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
Message-ID: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  I'm replacing my 1098 with a .030 over bored 1275. At the same time,
  I'm going with an LCB header and new exhaust sytem, AND
  a Weber DVAG carb that has an electric choke.

  My two questions are...
  1a) What do I use to power the electric choke?
  1b) Should it be switched?

  2) I see that there's a vacuum advance port on the carb that's been
  plugged off. Should that be opened up and hosed to the Dizzy?

  3)Anything else I should know? 
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Aibohphobia - The fear of palindromes 

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 13 18:24:41 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:24:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] WTB - Speedwell Monza Bonnet
Message-ID: <1342225481.67502.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I've been contacted by a guy that's building an electric Bugeye in mid-coast
Cali that's looking for one of these bonnets at a reasonable price.  If you
have one for sale, let me know and I'll put you in touch.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 13 19:09:58 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:09:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Water Temp Gauge Problem
In-Reply-To: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>
References: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <F0CBD71F755443D9A87A18C883721B68@Thinkpad>

That's how I did it.  Make sure you get a good salt bath to chill
the ether bulb.

Clean the tubing well so the soldering is quick and reliable.

I bought the guage from Autozone.  The bulb is a perfect fit.

Kirk, let me know if you need assistance if your going to attempt.
  

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:21 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: Dean-work
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp Gauge Problem

Kirk,
A friend/co-worker of mine found instructions online of how to take the
bulb/tube off a new cheap gauge and fix the old gauge.

http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge

I can check at work tomorrow and see if he did anything else special...

From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Jul 13 23:55:02 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 23:55:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <500109B6.8050704@bradakis.com>

Why a downdraft Weber??

mjb.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jul 14 00:02:51 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:02:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>

<< On 7/13/2012 6:34 PM, Bill L wrote:

   3)Anything else I should know? >>

Yep, Bill ! !	Easy answer = DO NOT do the Weber !   Find some SUs or even a single SU set-up.

  :-)

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul 14 01:52:01 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 03:52:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
Message-ID: <1fb65.54677169.3d327f20@aol.com>

Firstly I wouldn't use the DVAG carb it has nothing to commend it.
 
I think you'll find the electric choke is an automatic choke unless I'm  
mistaken and might be.  
 
In the UK when production Fords were fitted with the DVAG carb a very  
popular aftermarket conversion was a manual choke.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 14/07/2012 03:41:40 GMT Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

Hello  Spridgets,

I'm replacing my 1098 with a .030 over bored 1275. At  the same time,
I'm going with an LCB header and new exhaust sytem,  AND
a Weber DVAG carb that has an electric choke.

My  two questions are...
1a) What do I use to power the electric  choke?
1b) Should it be switched?

2) I see that  there's a vacuum advance port on the carb that's been
plugged off.  Should that be opened up and hosed to the Dizzy?

3)Anything else  I should know? 
-- 
Best regards,
Bill L.          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

'66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red  thing"

Aibohphobia - The fear of palindromes  
------------------------

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 14 05:34:22 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 04:34:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
	<50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <C866ADB54F8A4D7BB51FF19F085D9404@spider>

Would this be of use to someone? I am selling this for a friend. 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150857040142
Bill in Corvallis Oregon

=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of " Just Brits " Shop
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:03 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions

<< On 7/13/2012 6:34 PM, Bill L wrote:

   3)Anything else I should know? >>

Yep, Bill ! !	Easy answer = DO NOT do the Weber !   Find some SUs or even
a single SU set-up.

  :-)
------------------------

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 06:55:29 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 07:55:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <1fb65.54677169.3d327f20@aol.com>
References: <1fb65.54677169.3d327f20@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78RDuwNK+4B=SKqDP3K5K4nN9bibVgtSyOmv-Z0ri03_A@mail.gmail.com>

Single SU FTW!
SUs are great carbs.  Twins can be temperamental but a single HIF6 is
a nice setup.  I sourced a manifold and bought 4 HIF6s from a Volvo
guy for $50.  Volvos came with two HIF6s, one with a choke (fuel
enrichment circuit) and one without.  Once you get the
needle/spring/fluid combo right they run like a dream.

The Webers (both side and down draft) are OK but unless you're racing
(side draft) good SUs are better and a single SU is best, IMHO.

But, back in the day I was the guy who liked Carter over Holley and
Rochester.  Holleys are kinda like the Webers, when they're in doubt
they dump tons of fuel in the mix.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jul 14 07:26:19 2012
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:26:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
	<50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <7A8E94EC1FB545D78A40DF6C7180DDEC@Home>

> Yep, Bill ! ! Easy answer = DO NOT do the Weber !   Find some SUs or even 
> a single SU set-up.

I found  a "working"  HIF6 carb from a Harley online for $50.  It is all 
chromed and has a brass fuel pump, which is really pretty cool.  Maniflow 
makes a manifold.

Michael Rowe 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 07:45:55 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:45:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <C866ADB54F8A4D7BB51FF19F085D9404@spider>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
	<50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>
	<C866ADB54F8A4D7BB51FF19F085D9404@spider>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_pK3Zg7sM-f7V9BYVFZp2Hyb7BHujpwC-xOcbZ+T6M+g@mail.gmail.com>

Looks good for a race MGB.

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:34 AM,  <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Would this be of use to someone? I am selling this for a friend.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150857040142
> Bill in Corvallis Oregon

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Jul 14 07:52:35 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:52:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SU carb basics help..
Message-ID: <05AD4EEF-78F2-412A-87CD-7413BF0E8CC3@comcast.net>

Hi all,

so over the last month I've been trying to get my 1380 engine to idle at
something less than 3000 revs to no avail.  I've looked at the needle and
found it to be a "1" but at idle step, all the jets are the same so after some
more messing around I found that the rear carb piston is moving higher than
the front and won't go any lower, so to match flow I have to increase front
carb idle setting (NOT mixture).

I spent a fair amount of time re-working Jag SU's and one of the critical
things about them is that the butterfly, when closed, is centered and fits
tightly.  This is checked by holding the butterfly closed and putting the carb
up to a light to see how much if any light comes into the barrel.  So I tried
this with the AUC's and find that there is light all around the butterfly
which means that even when it's closed it's not REALLY closed.

What I don't know is if this is as important with the AUC's as with the Jag
carbs (HS 8 or HD 8).  Is it common racing practice to install smaller
diameter butterfly?  Are they all like this?  Is there something I'm
missing??

Thanks all,

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 07:53:03 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:53:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_UykCwufBWW1dKnt4efvhLdRToAQz8Wjzj=-OP_E8bAQ@mail.gmail.com>

I prefer a single SU over Weber.

Be careful taking vacuum off a carb, some are "switched" or ported.
Probably better to take vacuum from the intake, I think.  If you have
a vacuum dizzy (and you should) then you would want to use it.

I think there are two kinds of electric choke:
1.  On/off that works like a solenoid and should be switched.
2. Takes 12V and heats an element that opens the choke after a short period.

Yours will probably be #2 and you can run the wire to the "+" terminal
on your ignition coil or better yet a fuse that is hot on ignition.

Down draft Webers aren't necessarily bad but SUs (especially singles)
can give better performance and mileage, IMHO, assuming both are
properly tuned.

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 09:35:40 2012
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:35:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp Gauge Problem
In-Reply-To: <F0CBD71F755443D9A87A18C883721B68@Thinkpad>
References: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>
	<F0CBD71F755443D9A87A18C883721B68@Thinkpad>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvT+MEf6Rm6pSqvCDq=dFbZG++XeBjxnAwZ84Mxiy=jULw@mail.gmail.com>

WARNING: You may be tempted to cool your beer in the salt water bath, but
in my opinion beer CAN be too cold.

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> That's how I did it.  Make sure you get a good salt bath to chill
> the ether bulb.
>
> Clean the tubing well so the soldering is quick and reliable.
>
> I bought the guage from Autozone.  The bulb is a perfect fit.
>
> Kirk, let me know if you need assistance if your going to attempt.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:21 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Cc: Dean-work
> Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp Gauge Problem
>
> Kirk,
> A friend/co-worker of mine found instructions online of how to take the
> bulb/tube off a new cheap gauge and fix the old gauge.
>
> http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge
>
> I can check at work tomorrow and see if he did anything else special...
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 09:58:30 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 10:58:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <7A8E94EC1FB545D78A40DF6C7180DDEC@Home>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
	<50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>
	<7A8E94EC1FB545D78A40DF6C7180DDEC@Home>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78NX5zdtm-o08-npz8Eo_b6phJQmavCcr4Q3L27=PVVzw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, SUs are common upgrades for Harleys.


On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
>> Yep, Bill ! ! Easy answer = DO NOT do the Weber !   Find some SUs or even
>> a single SU set-up.
>
>
> I found  a "working"  HIF6 carb from a Harley online for $50.  It is all
> chromed and has a brass fuel pump, which is really pretty cool.  Maniflow
> makes a manifold.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jul 14 10:13:26 2012
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:13:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <C866ADB54F8A4D7BB51FF19F085D9404@spider>
References: <1687421154.20120713163449@pacifier.com>
	<50010B8B.7090701@justbrits.com>
	<C866ADB54F8A4D7BB51FF19F085D9404@spider>
Message-ID: <495542394.20120714091326@pacifier.com>

Hello ,

     
      It is stamped DGAV, but has been converted to electric choke. ..

      At this point I'm committed. I already have the Weber and
manifold in hand. I have no manifold for SU's at all. ....

If I can't get this to work satisfactorilly, I'll bite the bullet. and
go to a single SU set up. 


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 Man who pick nose - head cave in.

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Sat Jul 14 14:09:01 2012
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:09:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGAV carb questions
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1653.1342280029.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1653.1342280029.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <5001D1DD.1060403@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> I found  a "working"  HIF6 carb from a Harley online for $50.  It is all
> chromed and has a brass fuel pump, which is really pretty cool.  Maniflow
> makes a manifold.

Huh. Back in the late 60s/early 70s I sold an SU carb off a Healey
parts car (a totaled 100?) to a guy that wanted it for his Harley.
Go figure.

--
Kent McLean
'56 100 BNS

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 14:13:18 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:13:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Just mounted my wheels and tires
Message-ID: <1342296798.63495.YahooMailNeo@web162406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Stopped by Brian's house earlier this morning to pick up the wheels & tires I
loaned him so his BE could pass inspection. (wonder why they had a problem
with fat sticky shallow-grooved racing tires?) As we were walking up to them
in the drive, I thought something along the lines of "cool - he washed them up
for me". Then I got a little closer and realized they had not looked nearly
this good when we mounted them up to his car a couple of weeks ago. "Did you
paint them for me?" "Yeah - I had the paint laying around..." They look brand
new. Black on the inner sides, silver on the outer sides. Wow - Thanks Brian!
What a great surprise.
 
Just got back from mounting them up and taking the
car off the jack stands and they look amazing. Another example of what makes
Spridgeteering with this group a lesson of how things should work everywhere.
 
Thanks again, Brian.
 
 - David
Long Island

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 14:33:13 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:33:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Herald Convertible -anyone interested in one?
In-Reply-To: <20120713.081957.6626.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20120713.081957.6626.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1342297993.39019.YahooMailNeo@web162401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Mark - I love those cars in ragtop form. Isn't the Vitesse more or less the
same car with a six cylinder? Great looking cars. They also turn on a dime
(that's where the steering and at least the front suspension for the Spitfire
came from). Unfortunately, I have ZERO need for another project car at the
moment - even if it only needs brakes and to be driven. Thanks for spreading
the news and giving us a shot at it, though. Now if you stumble across a
Super7 in any of your travels, you'll need to contact me directly. I'd be very
hard-pressed to pass one of those up, especially if it were to be a Caterham
or Birkin in Prisoner colors... 
 
 - David
Long Island
 
________________________________
From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To:
spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 10:19 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] Herald Convertible -anyone interested in one?

One of the guys in
my area's wife got it from her grand dad and drove it until
it needed new
brakes, then parked it. I haven't looked at it, I thought that
I'd check the
desirability with you all first-It's a '67 with a 1293 (I
think).
Anyone
interested? I'll look if you are and report back.


Mark Haynes
It only goes
one way-Pay it Forward
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 14:47:53 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BE 4Sale on Long Island
Message-ID: <1342298873.85386.YahooMailNeo@web162406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I posted this a few months ago for a friend. He got some interest, but never
sold it. Was talking to him last night and said I'd send out another note just
in case anybody's looking now that wasn't then. So here it is again:
 
First
the small print: I have no financial interest in the selling of this car...
My friend Dave Blackwell is selling his '61 Bugeye. Yes, I know that '61 is
not considered a Bugeye year, but you all also know that a new car back then
was often registered as the year it was sold in, not necessarily when it was
built. So yes, it is a real Bugeye and the title does say 1961.

I saw it in
the shed where it is stored. The body is in great shape, not a concours
winner, but a great driver. I did not see any rust anywhere. Suspension is
really nice too. Car has a good paint job on it (yellow). There is a brand new
set of minilites mounted with what I believe are zero-mile tires. The tires
aren't brand new, but are unused. There's also a brand new top never
installed. It has the original 948 engine and smooth case tranny in it. Car
comes with a spare ribcase tranny. Upgraded to Midget Discs and late-model
Master cylinders with new hoses, etc. Car is complete and engine turns freely,
but has not been started in a while, so probably needs going thru. An
excellent start on a really nice car. Frank could probably have had it on the
road in a weekend.

Dave wants $6,000 for the whole lot. 

If you want, he'll
throw in a Datsun 5 speed tranny for an extra $500. If somebody wants the
tranny without the car, it is $750. That's the only thing he'll sell
separately from the car. Lots of spares and extra bits go along for the ride.
Contact Dave at his house: (631)475-2889, or his cell number: (631)576-9345.
Somebody grab it up quick - this is a good one.

David Booker
Long Island

From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 16:34:04 2012
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp Gauge Problem
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvT+MEf6Rm6pSqvCDq=dFbZG++XeBjxnAwZ84Mxiy=jULw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C40202F76BFA49D3903A1CF0ACA5C0DC@HomeComputer>
	<F0CBD71F755443D9A87A18C883721B68@Thinkpad>
	<CAHkEVvT+MEf6Rm6pSqvCDq=dFbZG++XeBjxnAwZ84Mxiy=jULw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1342305244.9151.YahooMailNeo@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Trevor -  
I believe that it has been tested and proven (I may have actual
knowledge and experience) that canned or bottled beer at ambient temp. fully
submerged in a salt water ice bath for eight minutes is just about the perfect
combination for cool, not too cold consumption. 
John
________________________________
 From: Trevor Jessie
<trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Saturday, July
14, 2012 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp Gauge Problem
WARNING: You may be tempted to cool your beer in the salt water bath, but
in
my opinion beer CAN be too cold.

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Dean Hedin
<dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> That's how I did it.  Make sure you get a good
salt bath to chill
> the ether bulb.
>
> Clean the tubing well so the
soldering is quick and reliable.
>
> I bought the guage from Autozone.  The
bulb is a perfect fit.
>
> Kirk, let me know if you need assistance if your
going to attempt.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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On Behalf Of Dean Swanson
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:21 PM
> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net
> Cc: Dean-work
> Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Water Temp
Gauge Problem
>
> Kirk,
> A friend/co-worker of mine found instructions online
of how to take the
> bulb/tube off a new cheap gauge and fix the old gauge.
>
> http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge
>
> I can check at work tomorrow and
see if he did anything else special...
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Jul 14 16:38:21 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:38:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] SU carb basics help..
In-Reply-To: <05AD4EEF-78F2-412A-87CD-7413BF0E8CC3@comcast.net>
References: <05AD4EEF-78F2-412A-87CD-7413BF0E8CC3@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5001F4DD.4000202@bradakis.com>

Maybe you should think about a Weber DGAV ;-)

Is the throttle plate installed the right way 'round?  There is a bevel that
should match up with the carb throat, if it is in backwards there will be
problems.

mjb.

From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Jul 14 18:11:31 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:11:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Network issues
Message-ID: <50020AB3.6060904@bradakis.com>

The Team.Net server is running *extremely* slow at the moment, it could 
very well be
an issue with the network hardware on my end.  I'm looking into it, 
please be patient
and don't worry too much if your message takes a *LONG* time to get posted.

mjb the perplexed.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jul 15 11:56:08 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:56:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... SU carb basics help..
In-Reply-To: <05AD4EEF-78F2-412A-87CD-7413BF0E8CC3@comcast.net>
References: <05AD4EEF-78F2-412A-87CD-7413BF0E8CC3@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <74315A31-04AD-49D2-91F1-F4575E8ED45C@comcast.net>

I haven't gotten that far yet, I just started with the basics, adjust the jet
so that it's level with the bridge.. no go on the rear carb, same one with
open butterfly.. it's off to the shop I go.  If the butterfly will NOT center
then it's a new butterfly or off to Joe Curto?  What say you all?

Thanks Peter!  I hate knowing that I'm right and then having someone trusted
confirm it. ;-)

Martyn, for the question that I'm asking it's all the info needed.  Really.

Mark, I REALLY like Webers but I have the SU's here and don't need a
manifold..

Lester




On Jul 14, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Lester wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> so over the last month I've been trying to get my 1380 engine to idle at
something less than 3000 revs to no avail. I've looked at the needle and found
it to be a "1" but at idle step, all the jets are the same so after some more
messing around I found that the rear carb piston is moving higher than the
front and won't go any lower, so to match flow I have to increase front carb
idle setting (NOT mixture).
>
> I spent a fair amount of time re-working Jag SU's and one of the critical
things about them is that the butterfly, when closed, is centered and fits
tightly. This is checked by holding the butterfly closed and putting the carb
up to a light to see how much if any light comes into the barrel. So I tried
this with the AUC's and find that there is light all around the butterfly
which means that even when it's closed it's not REALLY closed.
>
> What I don't know is if this is as important with the AUC's as with the Jag
carbs (HS 8 or HD 8). Is it common racing practice to install smaller diameter
butterfly? Are they all like this? Is there something I'm missing??
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Lester
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 15 16:50:26 2012
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:50:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Just mounted my wheels and tires
In-Reply-To: <1342296798.63495.YahooMailNeo@web162406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1342296798.63495.YahooMailNeo@web162406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY171-W262967DFB2C01104806E07C2D50@phx.gbl>

Well Dave,

It was a case of Shipwright's disease.
After I remounted my tires and wheels, I was looking at yours and they were
dirty on the backside.
So,   I powerwashed them.
Some of the paint had peeled off and they looked a bit ratty.
Welllll, I have some gloss black Rustoleum paint, so I'll just scrub em with a
scotchbrite pad and throw a couple
coats of paint on them.
Hmmm, that looked pretty good.
But then I turn them around and look, wellll, the backs look too good to let
the front side not look real purty too.
Some rust was showing through the silver paint and it had peeled around the
bolt holes.
Well, I had some silver wheel paint, so I threw a couple coats of that on.

Dave had saved me a boatload of $$ by not having to buy new tires, (yet)

It was the least I could do.....

Thanks for the loan of YOUR stuff Dave, helped me out a ton!

You are right, That kind of stuff makes this list FAN freaking TASTIC.


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:13:18 -0700
> From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Just mounted my wheels and tires
>
> Stopped by Brian's house earlier this morning to pick up the wheels & tires
I
> loaned him so his BE could pass inspection. (wonder why they had a problem
> with fat sticky shallow-grooved racing tires?) As we were walking up to
them
> in the drive, I thought something along the lines of "cool - he washed them
up
> for me". Then I got a little closer and realized they had not looked nearly
> this good when we mounted them up to his car a couple of weeks ago. "Did
you
> paint them for me?" "Yeah - I had the paint laying around..." They look
brand
> new. Black on the inner sides, silver on the outer sides. Wow - Thanks
Brian!
> What a great surprise.
>
> Just got back from mounting them up and taking the
> car off the jack stands and they look amazing. Another example of what
makes
> Spridgeteering with this group a lesson of how things should work
everywhere.
>
> Thanks again, Brian.
>
>  - David
> Long Island
> ------------------------

From franks97 at frontier.com  Sun Jul 15 17:15:13 2012
From: franks97 at frontier.com (franks97 at frontier.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:15:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaft
Message-ID: <03CA5B87-1B19-4366-9A62-237AB30E8115@frontier.com>

What is a fair price for a EN40 nitrided crankshaft? Same question for a 68 A
series block?

Thanks!

Sent from my iPod
Dave Franks

From johnsfolly at gmail.com  Sun Jul 15 19:04:46 2012
From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:04:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand prix
Message-ID: <CABFJSR3vxpPC7=1WevS+qg7cFRb959C1CGoF-ULt2qwgK=2WGg@mail.gmail.com>

Recently got the motor back into the "Works Racer" MG Midget and have sent
in my money for the PVGP that's running through Schenley Park next weekend.
Great event, but good news/bad news: crew chief Rick Fisk has a new grand
daughter and can't join me. I 'd love to have some company at the track.
Email me at johnsfolly-AT-gmail-DOT-com if you may be interested. Or call
me at 734-395-7414. I'll be setting up Friday morning and going home to
Michigan Sunday late PM.

If the car doesn't break, Rick and I will be at Waterford Hills the
following weekend.

Cheers!
JohnD
-- 

*Driving in the past lane!*
JohnsfollyVintageRacing <http://www.johnsfolly.webs.com>

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon Jul 16 06:31:51 2012
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:31:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand prix
In-Reply-To: <CABFJSR3vxpPC7=1WevS+qg7cFRb959C1CGoF-ULt2qwgK=2WGg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFJSR3vxpPC7=1WevS+qg7cFRb959C1CGoF-ULt2qwgK=2WGg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006c01cd634e$fa695b60$ef3c1220$@hky.com>

John,
I'd love to join you in the paddock, but I'll be occupied with the Marque of
the Year activities on the golf course.  Let me know what you need,
personnel-wise and I will try to get you some help.
Congrats to Rick!  I had hoped to actually get to meet him, this weekend,
but (as I have three granddaughters), I fully understand his decision.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JohnD
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:05 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand prix

Recently got the motor back into the "Works Racer" MG Midget and have sent
in my money for the PVGP that's running through Schenley Park next weekend.
Great event, but good news/bad news: crew chief Rick Fisk has a new grand
daughter and can't join me. I 'd love to have some company at the track.
Email me at johnsfolly-AT-gmail-DOT-com if you may be interested. Or call me
at 734-395-7414. I'll be setting up Friday morning and going home to
Michigan Sunday late PM.

If the car doesn't break, Rick and I will be at Waterford Hills the
following weekend.

Cheers!
JohnD
-- 

*Driving in the past lane!*
JohnsfollyVintageRacing <http://www.johnsfolly.webs.com>
------------------------

From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Mon Jul 16 06:33:32 2012
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:33:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand prix
In-Reply-To: <CABFJSR3vxpPC7=1WevS+qg7cFRb959C1CGoF-ULt2qwgK=2WGg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1550883902.2847046.1342442012231.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

I will see you up there.  You will have a ball!

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "JohnD" <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:04:46 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand prix

Recently got the motor back into the "Works Racer" MG Midget and have sent
in my money for the PVGP that's running through Schenley Park next weekend.
Great event, but good news/bad news: crew chief Rick Fisk has a new grand
daughter and can't join me. I 'd love to have some company at the track.
Email me at johnsfolly-AT-gmail-DOT-com if you may be interested. Or call
me at 734-395-7414. I'll be setting up Friday morning and going home to
Michigan Sunday late PM.

If the car doesn't break, Rick and I will be at Waterford Hills the
following weekend.

Cheers!
JohnD
-- 

*Driving in the past lane!*
JohnsfollyVintageRacing <http://www.johnsfolly.webs.com>

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 16 08:10:51 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:10:51 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Herald Convertible -anyone interested in one?
Message-ID: <20120716.081051.10235.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

Since there seems to be some interest, I stopped by to talk to the guy at his
work (the local beer store, whydaya think I know him?) to ask him to talk to
his fiance about selling the Herald. I'll know in a few days if she's willing
to let me see it and take pics. He told me that they need $ for their wedding,
so this seems to be a good time to let it go (to me).
I was remiss in letting people know where it is in my first post, It's on the
Front Range of Colorado, just west of Denver (~50 miles)at around 8500'
elevation (Screw milk, got Oxygen?). I'll let people know if she's amenable to
selling when I find out.
Thanks for the responses.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:33:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
To: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>, "spridgets at autox.team.net"
	<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Herald Convertible -anyone interested in one?
Message-ID:
	<1342297993.39019.YahooMailNeo at web162401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Mark - I love those cars in ragtop form. Isn't the Vitesse more or less the
same car with a six cylinder? Great looking cars. They also turn on a dime
(that's where the steering and at least the front suspension for the Spitfire
came from). Unfortunately, I have ZERO need for another project car at the
moment - even if it only needs brakes and to be driven. Thanks for spreading
the news and giving us a shot at it, though. Now if you stumble across a
Super7 in any of your travels, you'll need to contact me directly. I'd be
very
hard-pressed to pass one of those up, especially if it were to be a Caterham
or Birkin in Prisoner colors...

 - David
Long Island

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 16 10:06:20 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:06:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shirts!
Message-ID: <1342454780.85027.YahooMailNeo@web162402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hey Frank,
Just got my package of shirts a couple of minutes ago here at work.
Thanks a bunch - they look great. Kyle and I are going to be working on his
car tonight, so I'll let him have his then.
 
 - David
 Long Island

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul 16 12:01:02 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:01:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaft
Message-ID: <15611.6ce2a3f2.3d35b0de@aol.com>

Depends what the crank has been ground to + general condition.   Likewise 
with the block what it has been bored to + general condition.
 
 
In a message dated 16/07/2012 03:01:50 GMT Daylight Time,  
franks97 at frontier.com writes:

What is  a fair price for a EN40 nitrided crankshaft? Same question for a 
68  A
series block?

Thanks!

Sent from my iPod
Dave  Franks
------------------------

From franks97 at frontier.com  Mon Jul 16 13:06:42 2012
From: franks97 at frontier.com (franks97 at frontier.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:06:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaft
Message-ID: <380-22012711619642259@M2W110.mail2web.com>

Supposedly both are Standard and in good condition.

Dave

Original Message:
-----------------
From:  WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:01:02 -0400 (EDT)
To: franks97 at frontier.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Crankshaft



Depends what the crank has been ground to + general condition.   Likewise
with the block what it has been bored to + general condition.


In a message dated 16/07/2012 03:01:50 GMT Daylight Time,
franks97 at frontier.com writes:

What is  a fair price for a EN40 nitrided crankshaft? Same question for a
68  A
series block?

Thanks!

Sent from my iPod
Dave  Franks
------------------------





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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 14:28:01 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:28:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Just mounted my wheels and tires
In-Reply-To: <BAY171-W262967DFB2C01104806E07C2D50@phx.gbl>
References: <1342296798.63495.YahooMailNeo@web162406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY171-W262967DFB2C01104806E07C2D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVcS3-QJdkegjbQvX=sp70Mx2OORjafVEdjkopn6YVm5bQ@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome : )
I love the love,
Lin

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:50 PM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well Dave,
>
> It was a case of Shipwright's disease.
> After I remounted my tires and wheels, I was looking at yours and they were
> dirty on the backside.
> So,   I powerwashed them.
> Some of the paint had peeled off and they looked a bit ratty.
> Welllll, I have some gloss black Rustoleum paint, so I'll just scrub em with a
> scotchbrite pad and throw a couple
> coats of paint on them.
> Hmmm, that looked pretty good.
> But then I turn them around and look, wellll, the backs look too good to let
> the front side not look real purty too.
> Some rust was showing through the silver paint and it had peeled around the
> bolt holes.
> Well, I had some silver wheel paint, so I threw a couple coats of that on.
>
> Dave had saved me a boatload of $$ by not having to buy new tires, (yet)
>
> It was the least I could do.....
>
> Thanks for the loan of YOUR stuff Dave, helped me out a ton!
>
> You are right, That kind of stuff makes this list FAN freaking TASTIC.
>
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
> Thanks to Frank C.!
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:13:18 -0700
>> From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Just mounted my wheels and tires
>>
>> Stopped by Brian's house earlier this morning to pick up the wheels & tires
> I
>> loaned him so his BE could pass inspection. (wonder why they had a problem
>> with fat sticky shallow-grooved racing tires?) As we were walking up to
> them
>> in the drive, I thought something along the lines of "cool - he washed them
> up
>> for me". Then I got a little closer and realized they had not looked nearly
>> this good when we mounted them up to his car a couple of weeks ago. "Did
> you
>> paint them for me?" "Yeah - I had the paint laying around..." They look
> brand
>> new. Black on the inner sides, silver on the outer sides. Wow - Thanks
> Brian!
>> What a great surprise.
>>
>> Just got back from mounting them up and taking the
>> car off the jack stands and they look amazing. Another example of what
> makes
>> Spridgeteering with this group a lesson of how things should work
> everywhere.
>>
>> Thanks again, Brian.
>>
>>  - David
>> Long Island
>> ------------------------
> ------------------------
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 14:38:17 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:38:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Score One for the Good Guys!
In-Reply-To: <00f801cd60f2$89f1f4e0$9dd5dea0$@hky.com>
References: <CA+Xq+0ydZsP5Rx_RTL5zB+ib0dQjQnBcf1QPYzgQcPJ+vF=+Hg@mail.gmail.com>
	<00f801cd60f2$89f1f4e0$9dd5dea0$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVdWJUbzUZ4FL4Msm2OjG=9whSh1A8vxjN50GWDkZF4C+A@mail.gmail.com>

I just read the article today. Great story does anyone know if he has
joined any clubs. I'm so glad for him.
Lin

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
> Great story, Kent.  I wonder if the car's whereabouts, over the past 42
> years, can be traced.  It would be fascinating to learn where it has been.
>
> Bud
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:36 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Score One for the Good Guys!
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/texas-man-finds-stolen-car-42-years-later-203003133--a
> bc-news-topstories.html
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 14:59:54 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shirts!
In-Reply-To: <1342454780.85027.YahooMailNeo@web162402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1342454780.85027.YahooMailNeo@web162402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupfkg_5jV5v=pJ6zcA4LFkL1KSB1id5e+i77YQhk+6Sbw@mail.gmail.com>

Mine arrived today too!   Thanks Frankie!  These ROCK!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:06 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey Frank,
> Just got my package of shirts a couple of minutes ago here at work.
> Thanks a bunch - they look great. Kyle and I are going to be working on his
> car tonight, so I'll let him have his then.
>
>  - David
>  Long Island
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>
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are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 21:49:52 2012
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:49:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ideas to take my 59 Sprite to the next step?
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEJwxLnvNL=q7HELze_1fGqiKjBb17Utg7WCKKL68tXErg@mail.gmail.com>

What might be the next thing I could do in order to get more power out of
my car?

1275 stock (with stock low compression).

What benefit would be gained with an aluminum head?  Is it possible to
achieve a noticeable gain in HP by having my current head shaved by a
machine shop?  I eventually want to get hardened valve seats for unleaded
gas so that I no longer need to be putting lead additive in my fuel.  I am
not sure how far I could take the head down without causing other issues?
I would then run octane boost with the highest octane gas at the pump. . ?

Would running a higher lift longer duration cam be the next step,
possibly?  A street cam, nothing radical, but something that might give me
more performance?

I am currently running a Weber DCOE 45 (actually an OER with the same specs
that takes the same internals), headers, Geo Metro radiator with electric
fan, electric fuel pump and a Pertronix inside of a Mallory dual point
along with a Monza exhaust.  I have also added other things such as disc
brakes and urethane bushings along with lower harder racing springs, sway
bar, nice low mileage rib case.

Any input most appreciated.

Thanks,


Kirk

PS
I plan to buy a compression tester as my old one is not working correctly.
  The engine has been running smooth and it feels as though it is providing
a nice level of power . . but nothing that exciting. It would not surprise
me if one or more of my cylinders is below spec (due to unleaded gas
against the stock valve seats and some inconsistency over the years adding
lead additive).

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jul 17 04:55:38 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:55:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ideas to take my 59 Sprite to the next step?
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEJwxLnvNL=q7HELze_1fGqiKjBb17Utg7WCKKL68tXErg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <65E82FBFC90745E4BF808E785F00B6C8@spider>

Remember, there are limits to what the rear axles will take before twisting
and eventually breaking. ...bill
================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:50 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Ideas to take my 59 Sprite to the next step?

What might be the next thing I could do in order to get more power out of
my car?

1275 stock (with stock low compression).

What benefit would be gained with an aluminum head?  Is it possible to
achieve a noticeable gain in HP by having my current head shaved by a
machine shop?  I eventually want to get hardened valve seats for unleaded
gas so that I no longer need to be putting lead additive in my fuel.  I am
not sure how far I could take the head down without causing other issues?
I would then run octane boost with the highest octane gas at the pump. . ?

Would running a higher lift longer duration cam be the next step,
possibly?  A street cam, nothing radical, but something that might give me
more performance?

I am currently running a Weber DCOE 45 (actually an OER with the same specs
that takes the same internals), headers, Geo Metro radiator with electric
fan, electric fuel pump and a Pertronix inside of a Mallory dual point
along with a Monza exhaust.  I have also added other things such as disc
brakes and urethane bushings along with lower harder racing springs, sway
bar, nice low mileage rib case.

Any input most appreciated.

Thanks,


Kirk

PS
I plan to buy a compression tester as my old one is not working correctly.
  The engine has been running smooth and it feels as though it is providing
a nice level of power . . but nothing that exciting. It would not surprise
me if one or more of my cylinders is below spec (due to unleaded gas
against the stock valve seats and some inconsistency over the years adding
lead additive).
------------------------

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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Tue Jul 17 10:53:25 2012
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:53:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Title issue
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvT=Cbcep=MGK1n_i96yoOrJVwqEawkhp5WO4CyDcnOChA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm currently trying to resolve a title issue for a rubber bumper midget
that was given to me.
It is going to require the cooperation of a prior owner in another state,
and it may prove to be too much of an inconvenience for him to bother
helping me.
Can anyone help me out?  I'm not above bending rules as long as there are
no victims.

Thanks,
Trevor

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jul 17 13:48:39 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:48:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Title issue
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvT=Cbcep=MGK1n_i96yoOrJVwqEawkhp5WO4CyDcnOChA@mail.gmail.com>
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Prolly HELP if you tell us the STAT involved, Trevor :-D ;-) :-)     ! ~

Ed

From richb at u.washington.edu  Tue Jul 17 20:17:29 2012
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:17:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Title issue
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvT=Cbcep=MGK1n_i96yoOrJVwqEawkhp5WO4CyDcnOChA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <F47F1598640141AD9F9DEA1964C87AF7@RichandSusanPC>

This sounds a lot like my situation when Phil Jones gave me our '76(thanks
again Phil).  It was last licensed in Oregon and we're in Washington.  If
the laws are the same in the state where your previous owner lives as they
are in Oregon this is what I did.  I contacted the Oregon DMV and was able
to request the address of my cars previous owner.  Since you already know
this you can skip this step.  I then sent him a letter with an Oregon DMV
sales form for him to sign.  No notary required.  He returned that signed to
me which I then forwarded on to the Oregon DMV with the proper forms to
request a transfer of ownership and a reissue of lost title.  With these
forms and the required fees I was issued an Oregon title in my name that I
was able to take to the Washington DMV and get the car titled in my name in
Washington.  This all took a couple of calls to the Oregon DMV before I was
able to connect with someone that could understand what I wanted and knew
how to get it accomplished.  I would contact the head office for the DMV in
question as they will most likely know more that the local offices.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:53 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Title issue

I'm currently trying to resolve a title issue for a rubber bumper midget
that was given to me.
It is going to require the cooperation of a prior owner in another state,
and it may prove to be too much of an inconvenience for him to bother
helping me.
Can anyone help me out?  I'm not above bending rules as long as there are
no victims.

Thanks,
Trevor
------------------------

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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Wed Jul 18 06:06:27 2012
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:06:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Title issue
In-Reply-To: <F47F1598640141AD9F9DEA1964C87AF7@RichandSusanPC>
References: <CAHkEVvT=Cbcep=MGK1n_i96yoOrJVwqEawkhp5WO4CyDcnOChA@mail.gmail.com>
	<F47F1598640141AD9F9DEA1964C87AF7@RichandSusanPC>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvS5FjmYz06H_L7DxPvsZFKR0LuaPn6L=4SDfZe4nsBpqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks,

I found a "spridget" person (guy I actually know from past car show) that
lives in the same town as the prior owner.  He is checking on the easiest
way to handle this.  I feel better having him there to handle the situation
because I believe it is going to require a trip to the DMV and I hate to
count on a total stranger inconveniencing himself.

-Trevor

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Richard Ball <richb at u.washington.edu>wrote:

> This sounds a lot like my situation when Phil Jones gave me our '76(thanks
> again Phil).  It was last licensed in Oregon and we're in Washington.  If
> the laws are the same in the state where your previous owner lives as they
> are in Oregon this is what I did.  I contacted the Oregon DMV and was able
> to request the address of my cars previous owner.  Since you already know
> this you can skip this step.  I then sent him a letter with an Oregon DMV
> sales form for him to sign.  No notary required.  He returned that signed
> to
> me which I then forwarded on to the Oregon DMV with the proper forms to
> request a transfer of ownership and a reissue of lost title.  With these
> forms and the required fees I was issued an Oregon title in my name that I
> was able to take to the Washington DMV and get the car titled in my name in
> Washington.  This all took a couple of calls to the Oregon DMV before I was
> able to connect with someone that could understand what I wanted and knew
> how to get it accomplished.  I would contact the head office for the DMV in
> question as they will most likely know more that the local offices.
>
> Good luck and I hope this helps.
>
> Rich Ball
> '76 Midget
> Everett, WA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:53 AM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Title issue
>
> I'm currently trying to resolve a title issue for a rubber bumper midget
> that was given to me.
> It is going to require the cooperation of a prior owner in another state,
> and it may prove to be too much of an inconvenience for him to bother
> helping me.
> Can anyone help me out?  I'm not above bending rules as long as there are
> no victims.
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor
> ------------------------
>
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 18 07:25:12 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ideas to take my 59 Sprite to the next step?
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEJwxLnvNL=q7HELze_1fGqiKjBb17Utg7WCKKL68tXErg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1342617912.33900.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Too bad you couldn't sit down with a renowned expert like Dave Vizard who
could tell you all the secrets of A series engine tuning.  Oh yeah, you can: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow5cGV7bXCw

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Mon, 7/16/12, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:


What might be the next thing I could do in order to get more power out of
my car?

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jul 18 09:50:56 2012
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:50:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye kit
Message-ID: <ED14F7ED5817476BB8FE4DC99DF271CF@Home>

Owing to health problems, I am on the verge of giving up on my 1960 BE project, selling the whole kit with many spares and extras, and buying a completed car.  Depending on what I buy, I expect to sell my '74 Bugeyed Midget as well

Any interest among the group or friends in buying or selling?

Michael Rowe

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 18 18:10:45 2012
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:10:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
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Received this from the Spitfire group.  Very sad....
 
Sent: Wednesday, July
18, 2012 7:57 PM
Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
Unfortunately, somebody who loves Spitfires was lost to us:
http://jalopnik.com/5926418/road-rage-chase-ends-with-fiery-death-for-vintage
-sports-car-driver
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From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Wed Jul 18 21:02:34 2012
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:02:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dallas-area man recovers stolen car after 42 years -
 SFGate#photo-3170076#photo-3170077#photo-3170077#photo-3170077#photo-3170077
Message-ID: <08A78FDA8E3B4AEAB23528AA89C02E4A@Inspiron>

I don't if you guys have this article, nice to see the guy got his car back
after 42 years, who would have ever thought after all that time.

Greg Higgins
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Dallas-area-man-recovers-stolen-car-after-
42-years-3691632.php#photo-3170077

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 19 04:43:15 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:43:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
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OMG, that is a horrible story Bob, and often I think about getting
Pinky a roll bar for that very same reason. I pray that poor man only
suffered seconds not minutes.

Does anyone know who he was?

Is anyone else sporting a roll bar on their Spridgets?
Prayers for his family,
Lin

62 California transplanted Pink Sprite, Pinky.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Received this from the Spitfire group.  Very sad....
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July
> 18, 2012 7:57 PM
> Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
> Unfortunately, somebody who loves Spitfires was lost to us:
> http://jalopnik.com/5926418/road-rage-chase-ends-with-fiery-death-for-vintage
> -sports-car-driver
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 19 04:48:05 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:48:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye kit
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I'm sorry to hear this Michael although a very good idea under the
circumstances. A completed car is what you need.
Good luck on the sales have you put them on ebay or other sites? I
have Spridget friends on Facebook who may be interested but will need
info and contact to post to them.

If you want to get things together for the sale please let me and
others know so we can have an oshit day to make the sales easier on
you. How can I get on the eastern oshit group I would like to help : )

Best of luck with your health and sales,
Lin

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> Owing to health problems, I am on the verge of giving up on my 1960 BE project, selling the whole kit with many spares and extras, and buying a completed car.  Depending on what I buy, I expect to sell my '74 Bugeyed Midget as well
>
> Any interest among the group or friends in buying or selling?
>
> Michael Rowe
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 19 05:49:56 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:49:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
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Jesse Garcia (Jesus) info on this link, he sounded like a sweetheart
of a guy. Family man, hard working and helpful to others.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20120718/ARTICLES/207181022/1036/business?Title=Santa-Rosa-crash-victim-was-heart-of-large-family

Lin

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Received this from the Spitfire group.  Very sad....
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July
> 18, 2012 7:57 PM
> Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
> Unfortunately, somebody who loves Spitfires was lost to us:
> http://jalopnik.com/5926418/road-rage-chase-ends-with-fiery-death-for-vintage
> -sports-car-driver
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From nases at verizon.net  Thu Jul 19 07:02:11 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:02:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
Message-ID: <4B675F18-7749-49EB-BF88-D51F6778A902@verizon.net>

I've got bushings on my rear trailing arms (stock) that are deteriorating
after 4 years of very limited use.  I also have a shock link with the inside
upper rubber gone missing.  These are on a quarter elliptic spring Mk 1 and
parts were new when I built the car.  These faults are probably what is
causing my car's torque steer.  Both faults are on the left rear.

I'm thinking of using poly, at least on the trailing arms but haven't located
any yet.  Or maybe going to a heim jointed trailing arm to avoid the rubber or
poly all together.  Does anyone have a source for the trailing arm poly bushes
or thoughts on the conversion to heim jointed arms?  Maybe even a source for
rubber bushes that last longer than 4 years.  Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Jul 19 07:42:29 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:42:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
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Be careful and think it through before putting a roll bar in your Spridget,
unless you plan on wearing a helmet.  If the roll bar is close to your head
you could have a 20 mph fender bender, smack your head on the roll bar, and
end up brain damaged.  Roll bars are good idea in a race Spridget where roll
bar padding and helmets are used, but I'm not so sure about a street
Spridget.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 19, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

> OMG, that is a horrible story Bob, and often I think about getting
> Pinky a roll bar for that very same reason. I pray that poor man only
> suffered seconds not minutes.
>
> Does anyone know who he was?
>
> Is anyone else sporting a roll bar on their Spridgets?
> Prayers for his family,
> Lin
>
> 62 California transplanted Pink Sprite, Pinky.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jul 19 08:24:10 2012
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:24:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <4B675F18-7749-49EB-BF88-D51F6778A902@verizon.net>
References: <4B675F18-7749-49EB-BF88-D51F6778A902@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1342707850.76978.YahooMailRC@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Phil,

I understand your reasoning, but I would query owners of cars with
heim-joint 
trailing arms and/or poly-bushings for their experiences.
Personally, years ago I tried using heim jointed trailing arms and shock links
and the ride and noise was brutal.
 jay fishbein 
wallingford, ct
61 Innocenti
950 Spider
63 Pink Sprite Mk II




________________________________
From:
Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net>
To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, July 19, 2012 10:04:38 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] poly bushings

I've got bushings on my rear trailing arms (stock)
that are deteriorating
after 4 years of very limited use.  I also have a shock
link with the inside
upper rubber gone missing.  These are on a quarter
elliptic spring Mk 1 and
parts were new when I built the car.  These faults
are probably what is
causing my car's torque steer.  Both faults are on the
left rear.

I'm thinking of using poly, at least on the trailing arms but
haven't located
any yet.  Or maybe going to a heim jointed trailing arm to
avoid the rubber or
poly all together.  Does anyone have a source for the
trailing arm poly bushes
or thoughts on the conversion to heim jointed arms? 
Maybe even a source for
rubber bushes that last longer than 4 years.  Thanks.

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 08:39:03 2012
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:39:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVc6fo9V8sAB12ngqW7tgsxkwmfQVQi4BBWSYQZgZqsreA@mail.gmail.com>
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   After looking at the pictures very closely, it looks as if the car did have
a roll bar but a very low one.  Also it appears the car was a TR6 not a
Spitfire,  ever see a spitty with dual exhausts?  Regardless of the car or
rollbar this man died a terrible death!


________________________________
From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: Bob Van Kirk
<racerbob70 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: 4- Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>;
"mgvr at yahoogroups.com" <mgvr at yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012
6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
OMG, that is a horrible story Bob, and often I think about getting
Pinky a
roll bar for that very same reason. I pray that poor man only
suffered seconds
not minutes.

Does anyone know who he was?

Is anyone else sporting a roll bar
on their Spridgets?
Prayers for his family,
Lin

62 California transplanted
Pink Sprite, Pinky.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Bob Van Kirk
<racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Received this from the Spitfire group.  Very
sad....
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July
> 18, 2012 7:57 PM
> Subject: [Spits]
Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
> Unfortunately, somebody who loves Spitfires
was lost to us:
>
http://jalopnik.com/5926418/road-rage-chase-ends-with-fiery-death-for-vintage
> -sports-car-driver
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 09:00:16 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:00:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
Message-ID: <qbbxekfjxrevywc45nk7ge5g.1342710016933@email.android.com>

Linda, I've mounted a roll bar in each of the three convertibles I've owned in my life. (the first one was a Spitfire) I've always said that I'd rather climb out from under a car cursing my dumb ass for losing it than get my head crushed or be trapped inside. As someone who does occassionally get on a track, and who sometimes loves to play on the edge of adhesion on deserted curvy roads, I know it is not unreasonable that I may need it one day. In my opinion, they also look way cool... :-)B 

Rick has a good point about bouncing your head off it, though. All of my cars have had high-backed buckets and the bars have also all been well clear of my admittedly fat head, so not an issue. I've also mounted 4-point belts in all three of my convertibles to hold me where i want me to be. (again, they are maybe overkill on a street car, but I like the way they look and feel)
B - David

>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

OMG, that is a horrible story Bob, and often I think about getting
Pinky a roll bar for that very same reason. I pray that poor man only
suffered seconds not minutes.

Does anyone know who he was?

Is anyone else sporting a roll bar on their Spridgets?
Prayers for his family,
Lin

62 California transplanted Pink Sprite, Pinky.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Received this from the Spitfire group.B  Very sad....
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July
> 18, 2012 7:57 PM
> Subject: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
> Unfortunately, somebody who loves Spitfires was lost to us:
> http://jalopnik.com/5926418/road-rage-chase-ends-with-fiery-death-for-vintage
> -sports-car-driver
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 19 11:32:07 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:32:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
Message-ID: <2547e.5428fd1e.3d399e97@aol.com>

Yes, and a plumbed in fire extinguisher and separately a hand held fire  
extinguisher.  I also have a metal, rather than cardboard rear bulkhead  
section.
 
 
In a message dated 19/07/2012 11:48:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
grunthaner at gmail.com writes:

Is  anyone else sporting a roll bar on their  Spridgets?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 19 11:33:30 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:33:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
Message-ID: <2552d.50a4475f.3d399ee9@aol.com>

I have a high back seat and FIA roll bar padding on my roll bar.
 
 
In a message dated 19/07/2012 15:26:39 GMT Daylight Time,  
refisk at chartermi.net writes:

Be  careful and think it through before putting a roll bar in your  
Spridget,
unless you plan on wearing a helmet.  If the roll bar is  close to your head
you could have a 20 mph fender bender, smack your head  on the roll bar, and
end up brain damaged.  Roll bars are good idea in  a race Spridget where 
roll
bar padding and helmets are used, but I'm not so  sure about a street
Spridget.

Rick

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 19 11:34:28 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:34:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
Message-ID: <255c6.68f27763.3d399f23@aol.com>

Yes, a popular conversion but more likely on a GT6.
 
 
In a message dated 19/07/2012 15:42:37 GMT Daylight Time,  
racerbob70 at yahoo.com writes:

ever see  a spitty with dual exhausts? 

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 11:57:59 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:57:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
Message-ID: <3fkqhkl1m6dbq3n8oyra4m5r.1342720679412@email.android.com>

I also meet a guy in Atlanta once with a Ford 289 in his Spitfire. Yep, dual exhaust there too. And a rollbar.

B - David

>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

Yes, a popular conversion but more likely on a GT6.


In a message dated 19/07/2012 15:42:37 GMT Daylight Time,B  
racerbob70 at yahoo.com writes:

ever seeB  a spitty with dual exhausts? 
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Jul 19 15:07:41 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:07:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
In-Reply-To: <92A97180-EB69-467F-8D5A-7366FE87A3CE@chartermi.net>
References: <17BBB887D456474AB47877955D9E2F5215DEA111@CH1PRD0411MB419.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<1342656645.36893.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAL0QtVc6fo9V8sAB12ngqW7tgsxkwmfQVQi4BBWSYQZgZqsreA@mail.gmail.com>
	<92A97180-EB69-467F-8D5A-7366FE87A3CE@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <5008771D.1050905@wi.net>

Great point Rick!
Unfortunately, that is how I got my B.E.  Doug, the P.O., had an 
unpadded roll bar, was driving w/o a helmet, and swerved to avoid and 
animal and went into the ditch.  His head hit the roll bar and he was a 
quadriplegic.  He didn't like the front bumper on the Sprite and I still 
run it like that for that reason.  He was a good guy and held on to his 
Sprite until he was satisfied it had found a good home.  Whew...tough 
memories.
BTW, 30 minutes after buying the car and driving it home the roll bar 
was history.

DW
59 :{)  AN5L/17606


On 7/19/2012 8:42 AM, Rick Fisk wrote:
> Be careful and think it through before putting a roll bar in your Spridget,
> unless you plan on wearing a helmet.  If the roll bar is close to your head
> you could have a 20 mph fender bender, smack your head on the roll bar, and
> end up brain damaged.  Roll bars are good idea in a race Spridget where roll
> bar padding and helmets are used, but I'm not so sure about a street
> Spridget.
>
> Rick

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 05:27:39 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 07:27:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
In-Reply-To: <5008771D.1050905@wi.net>
References: <17BBB887D456474AB47877955D9E2F5215DEA111@CH1PRD0411MB419.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<1342656645.36893.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAL0QtVc6fo9V8sAB12ngqW7tgsxkwmfQVQi4BBWSYQZgZqsreA@mail.gmail.com>
	<92A97180-EB69-467F-8D5A-7366FE87A3CE@chartermi.net>
	<5008771D.1050905@wi.net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVdLMUs+Ojg2n5rYjN1g-wsOfCCvDj+nA8aU8aCa_eY12Q@mail.gmail.com>

OMG David a quad for hitting his head on the rollbar? I wonder how
much padding needs to be in to prevent that?  Personally I never liked
the look of a roll bar and if I get one it I'd have to send it out to
be chromed and then add padding to specific areas which won't look
cool : (.
Safety Fast Folks,
Lin


On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:07 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
> Great point Rick!
> Unfortunately, that is how I got my B.E.  Doug, the P.O., had an unpadded
> roll bar, was driving w/o a helmet, and swerved to avoid and animal and went
> into the ditch.  His head hit the roll bar and he was a quadriplegic.  He
> didn't like the front bumper on the Sprite and I still run it like that for
> that reason.  He was a good guy and held on to his Sprite until he was
> satisfied it had found a good home.  Whew...tough memories.
> BTW, 30 minutes after buying the car and driving it home the roll bar was
> history.
>
> DW
> 59 :{)  AN5L/17606
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2012 8:42 AM, Rick Fisk wrote:
>>
>> Be careful and think it through before putting a roll bar in your
>> Spridget,
>> unless you plan on wearing a helmet.  If the roll bar is close to your
>> head
>> you could have a 20 mph fender bender, smack your head on the roll bar,
>> and
>> end up brain damaged.  Roll bars are good idea in a race Spridget where
>> roll
>> bar padding and helmets are used, but I'm not so sure about a street
>> Spridget.
>>
>> Rick
>
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Jul 20 08:45:02 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:45:02 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
Message-ID: <20120720.084502.24063.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

I'm ready to put my later model wiper motor into the MKII, but just realized
that there are 5 wiring connections on the 'new' one, where my harness only
has three. I'm assuming that it has to do with an intermittent feature of the
later models.
Does anyone have a wiring diagram of the MUCH later models showing 5 wires
going to the wiper motor that they would be willing to share with me? It
really sucks having no wipers when we get afternoon showers and I'm trying to
drive home- a squeegee only sort of works.
TIA


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul 20 09:40:03 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:40:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVdLMUs+Ojg2n5rYjN1g-wsOfCCvDj+nA8aU8aCa_eY12Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17BBB887D456474AB47877955D9E2F5215DEA111@CH1PRD0411MB419.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<1342656645.36893.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <50097BD3.5080403@wi.net>

That's the point.  Even with a padded roll bar it doesn't take much if 
you hit at the wrong(right?) angle and position.  Hence, the helmet.
One has to be super vigilant these days with people on phones and doing 
everything except driving but let's not start that thread.
Point is, one can be doing everything right and still feces occurs.

Dave W.




On 7/20/2012 6:27 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> OMG David a quad for hitting his head on the rollbar? I wonder how
> much padding needs to be in to prevent that?  Personally I never liked
> the look of a roll bar and if I get one it I'd have to send it out to
> be chromed and then add padding to specific areas which won't look
> cool : (.
> Safety Fast Folks,
> Lin
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:07 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
>> Great point Rick!
>> Unfortunately, that is how I got my B.E.  Doug, the P.O., had an unpadded
>> roll bar, was driving w/o a helmet, and swerved to avoid and animal and went
>> into the ditch.  His head hit the roll bar and he was a quadriplegic.  He
>> didn't like the front bumper on the Sprite and I still run it like that for
>> that reason.  He was a good guy and held on to his Sprite until he was
>> satisfied it had found a good home.  Whew...tough memories.
>> BTW, 30 minutes after buying the car and driving it home the roll bar was
>> history.
>>
>> DW
>> 59 :{)  AN5L/17606

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Jul 20 13:01:03 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:01:03 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
Message-ID: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Thanks to everyone who responded. I now have and excellent idea of what goes
where and why. Thanks again!


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

____________________________________________________________
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 20 13:32:37 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:32:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>

Why not let everyone on the list know?   Why are so many people only 
doing private answers. There's no gain in that.
       Peter C

At 02:01 PM 7/20/2012, Mark Haynes wrote:
>Thanks to everyone who responded. I now have and excellent idea of what goes
>where and why. Thanks again!
>
>
>Mark Haynes
>It only goes one way-Pay it Forward

From frogeye at cox.net  Fri Jul 20 14:02:59 2012
From: frogeye at cox.net (alan)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:02:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wiper motor help
Message-ID: <6783C11C4F794F3594F509654BA0AA0B@alanfPC>

Here are 2 sites I found very informative and helpful

Alan


http://iainseven.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/wiper-motor-wiring/
http://www.british-cars.net/mg-midget-sprite-technical-bbs/wiring-a-wiper-mot
or-2010011816452016468.htm

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 20 14:10:40 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <28256746-7107-4A43-A5C1-CF56A91C18A8@chartermi.net>

I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a late model car with the 5 wire
motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(

If anyone else needs it let me know.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Why not let everyone on the list know?   Why are so many people only doing
private answers. There's no gain in that.
>      Peter C
>
> At 02:01 PM 7/20/2012, Mark Haynes wrote:
>> Thanks to everyone who responded. I now have and excellent idea of what
goes
>> where and why. Thanks again!
>>
>>
>> Mark Haynes
>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> ------------------------

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 20 14:33:09 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:33:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <28256746-7107-4A43-A5C1-CF56A91C18A8@chartermi.net>
References: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<28256746-7107-4A43-A5C1-CF56A91C18A8@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <20120720203312.E3B07F44046@mx2.netinteraction.com>

Fair enough. I wasn't calling anyone out. This used to be a busy 
list, and now......... yawn....

         Peter C
=
At 03:10 PM 7/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a late model car with the 5 wire
>motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(
>
>If anyone else needs it let me know.
>
>Rick
>
>Sent from my keyboard
>
>On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> > Why not let everyone on the list know?   Why are so many people only doing
>private answers. There's no gain in that.
> >      Peter C
> >
> > At 02:01 PM 7/20/2012, Mark Haynes wrote:
> >> Thanks to everyone who responded. I now have and excellent idea of what
>goes
> >> where and why. Thanks again!
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Haynes
> >> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 20 14:40:31 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:40:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <20120720203312.E3B07F44046@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<28256746-7107-4A43-A5C1-CF56A91C18A8@chartermi.net>
	<20120720203312.E3B07F44046@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <906D5196-F0F9-45B7-9B2F-A38BB4558DC4@chartermi.net>

Peter,

Do you know if President Soave is planning to go to Grattan this year?  He
seems to have abandoned the list (along with many others).  :-(

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Fair enough. I wasn't calling anyone out. This used to be a busy list, and
now......... yawn....
>
>        Peter C
> =
> At 03:10 PM 7/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>> I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a late model car with the 5
wire
>> motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(
>>
>> If anyone else needs it let me know.
>>
>> Rick

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 20 14:47:55 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:47:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops; meant to spam the list.
Message-ID: <01F06AC5905841968172BACDA3DEFB95@spider>

-----Original Message-----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:45 PM
To: 'Peter Caldwell'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring

Cats, guns, twisted axles shafts, rib cage transmission, heim joints,
plastic bushings, Moss, China, China again, roll bars, drinking, British Ale
versus American Lager.

====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:33 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring

Fair enough. I wasn't calling anyone out. This used to be a busy 
list, and now......... yawn....

         Peter C
=
At 03:10 PM 7/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a late model car with the 5
wire
>motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(
>
>If anyone else needs it let me know.
>
>Rick

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 20 15:00:17 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:00:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <906D5196-F0F9-45B7-9B2F-A38BB4558DC4@chartermi.net>
References: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<28256746-7107-4A43-A5C1-CF56A91C18A8@chartermi.net>
	<20120720203312.E3B07F44046@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<906D5196-F0F9-45B7-9B2F-A38BB4558DC4@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <20120720210021.4B8929A4572@mx2.netinteraction.com>

He is not.  Doing a Lemons thing the following Monday at RA in a 
plywood stratosfied X1/9......

Which leads me to thinking whether I am going. I was planning on the 
Twist shindig and a probable run into Canadia for shock cores.  Now, 
I dunno.  Does BHT Deikis need help?
         Peter

At 03:40 PM 7/20/2012, you wrote:
>Peter,
>
>Do you know if President Soave is planning to go to Grattan this 
>year?  He seems to have abandoned the list (along with many others).  :-(
>
>Rick
>
>Sent from my keyboard
>
>On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> > Fair enough. I wasn't calling anyone out. This used to be a busy 
> list, and now......... yawn....
> >
> >        Peter C
> > =
> > At 03:10 PM 7/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
> >> I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a late model car 
> with the 5 wire
> >> motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(
> >>
> >> If anyone else needs it let me know.
> >>
> >> Rick

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 20 15:10:59 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:10:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <20120720210021.4B8929A4572@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <20120720.130103.31000.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<28256746-7107-4A43-A5C1-CF56A91C18A8@chartermi.net>
	<20120720203312.E3B07F44046@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<906D5196-F0F9-45B7-9B2F-A38BB4558DC4@chartermi.net>
	<20120720210021.4B8929A4572@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <E7860D97-E85B-4E08-B5CD-6A6E0E2A58AB@chartermi.net>

Mr. Deikis ALWAYS needs help.  LOL  I'll be there with him, but we can always
use extra hands.  I would like to attend the Twist party as well if time
permits.

At this very moment John is probably doing his best to avoid the stone walls
of the Schenley Park course in Pittsburg.  This of course is assuming he
hasn't already melted piston #4.  The latest engine builder told him no more
street gas, race gas only.  But John is somewhat parsimonious, so who knows
what kind of mix he has in the tank.  I offered to buy him some 100LL avgas as
I can get it for $5.70 a gallon.  But we decided that probably wasn't a good
idea.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 20, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> He is not.  Doing a Lemons thing the following Monday at RA in a plywood
stratosfied X1/9......
>
> Which leads me to thinking whether I am going. I was planning on the Twist
shindig and a probable run into Canadia for shock cores.  Now, I dunno.  Does
BHT Deikis need help?
>        Peter
>
> At 03:40 PM 7/20/2012, you wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> Do you know if President Soave is planning to go to Grattan this year?  He
seems to have abandoned the list (along with many others).  :-(
>>
>> Rick

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri Jul 20 15:23:11 2012
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
Message-ID: <AE06C46FDC9B47639D22B8F3087DEA4B@mail2world.com>

I do have a roll bar in My Midget, but the '78-'79 model high-backed
stock seats are such that my head will hit the headrest (as it should)
rather than the roll bar.

Having already been upside-down in this particular car (before fitting
the roll bar) with only the headrests and the steering wheel keeping my
head from being one with the earth, I will always put a roll-bar in my
LBCs.

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: dwoerpel [dwoerpel at wi.net]
>Sent: 7/20/2012 11:43:03 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
>
>That's the point. Even with a padded roll bar it doesn't take much if 
>you hit at the wrong(right?) angle and position. Hence, the helmet.
>One has to be super vigilant these days with people on phones and doing
>everything except driving but let's not start that thread.
>Point is, one can be doing everything right and still feces occurs.
>
>Dave W.
>
>
>
>
>On 7/20/2012 6:27 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>> OMG David a quad for hitting his head on the rollbar? I wonder how
>> much padding needs to be in to prevent that? Personally I never liked
>> the look of a roll bar and if I get one it I'd have to send it out to
>> be chromed and then add padding to specific areas which won't look
>> cool : (.
>> Safety Fast Folks,
>> Lin
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:07 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
>>> Great point Rick!
>>> Unfortunately, that is how I got my B.E. Doug, the P.O., had an
unpadded
>>> roll bar, was driving w/o a helmet, and swerved to avoid and animal
and
>went
>>> into the ditch. His head hit the roll bar and he was a quadriplegic.
He
>>> didn't like the front bumper on the Sprite and I still run it like
that for
>>> that reason. He was a good guy and held on to his Sprite until he
was
>>> satisfied it had found a good home. Whew...tough memories.
>>> BTW, 30 minutes after buying the car and driving it home the roll
bar was
>>> history.
>>>
>>> DW
>>> 59 :{) AN5L/17606
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>
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 20 16:16:45 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:16:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <20120720193237.BD6BBF44036@mx2.netinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <1342822605.26582.YahooMailClassic@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

 
Peter,
 
It is the way the group is set up unfortunately.
If you do a reply it only goes to the sender.
You have to remember to do a rely all to send it to the group.
I personally find it irritating for the reason no one learns with this
format.

--- On Fri, 7/20/12, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:


From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 12:32 PM


Why not let everyone on the list know?   Why are so many people only
doing private answers. There's no gain in that.
       Peter C

At 02:01 PM 7/20/2012, Mark Haynes wrote:
>Thanks to everyone who responded. I now have and excellent idea of what goes
>where and why. Thanks again!
>
>
>Mark Haynes
>It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 20 16:31:39 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops; meant to spam the list.
In-Reply-To: <01F06AC5905841968172BACDA3DEFB95@spider>
References: <01F06AC5905841968172BACDA3DEFB95@spider>
Message-ID: <1342823499.89616.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

You forgot guns and TacoBell wrappers...
 
 - David
________________________________
From: "corvallis at peoplepc.com"
<corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Friday, July 20,
2012 4:47 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops; meant to spam the list.
-----Original Message-----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
[mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:45 PM
To:
'Peter Caldwell'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring

Cats, guns,
twisted axles shafts, rib cage transmission, heim joints,
plastic bushings,
Moss, China, China again, roll bars, drinking, British Ale
versus American
Lager.

====================================================
-----Original
Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent:
Friday, July 20, 2012 1:33 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring

Fair enough. I wasn't calling anyone out. This
used to be a busy 
list, and now......... yawn....

        Peter C
=
At 03:10
PM 7/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a
late model car with the 5
wire
>motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(
>
>If
anyone else needs it let me know.
>
>Rick
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 20 16:36:27 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:36:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops; meant to spam the list.
In-Reply-To: <1342823499.89616.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <01F06AC5905841968172BACDA3DEFB95@spider>
	<1342823499.89616.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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"Guns" were # 2 on Davids List David ! ! !   Tsk <G>

The UN-NAMED Poster dud IN FACT forget TacoBell wrappers ! ! ! TSK TSK 
TSK ! ! !


**********************************************************************************
On 7/20/2012 5:31 PM, David Booker wrote:
> You forgot guns and TacoBell wrappers...

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul 20 16:40:59 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
In-Reply-To: <AE06C46FDC9B47639D22B8F3087DEA4B@mail2world.com>
References: <AE06C46FDC9B47639D22B8F3087DEA4B@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <5009DE7B.6060702@wi.net>

And folks remember, headrests should be adjusted correctly.  When your 
head snaps back you do not want the top of the headrest contacting the 
base of the skull or top of the neck.  Bad things happen.
DW

On 7/20/2012 4:23 PM, Chris King wrote:
> I do have a roll bar in My Midget, but the '78-'79 model high-backed 
> stock seats are such that my head will hit the headrest (as it should) 
> rather than the roll bar.
>
> Having already been upside-down in this particular car (before fitting 
> the roll bar) with only the headrests and the steering wheel keeping 
> my head from being one with the earth, I will always put a roll-bar in 
> my LBCs.
>
> -=Chris
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
>
> <-----Original Message----->
> >From: dwoerpel [dwoerpel at wi.net]
> >Sent: 7/20/2012 11:43:03 AM
> >To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: [Spits] Spitfire Wreck in Santa Rosa, CA
> >
> >That's the point. Even with a padded roll bar it doesn't take much if
> >you hit at the wrong(right?) angle and position. Hence, the helmet.
> >One has to be super vigilant these days with people on phones and doing
> >everything except driving but let's not start that thread.
> >Point is, one can be doing everything right and still feces occurs.
> >
> >Dave W.

From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Jul 20 16:50:18 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:50:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <1342822605.26582.YahooMailClassic@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1342822605.26582.YahooMailClassic@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5009E0AA.7010007@bradakis.com>

uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> It is the way the group is set up unfortunately.
> If you do a reply it only goes to the sender.
> You have to remember to do a rely all to send it to the group.
> I personally find it irritating for the reason no one learns with this
> format.
>
It is a lot easier to repost a message to the entire list than to "unpost"
a message you really wanted to be private.

mjb.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 20 11:05:43 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:05:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <20120720.084502.24063.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
References: <20120720.084502.24063.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1342803943.58623.YahooMailNeo@web141405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Mark,
I have a Spridget manual that should have the proper diagram. I know it
has pages and pages of them - all of which are varying degrees of Greek to me,
but hey - I have them when I need them!  The manual is at the garage where I
keep the car, so won't be able to get at it till tonight or tomorrow morning.
If nobody else can help out sooner, will try to scan the proper pages
tomorrow. Possible issue is that my computer is acting very poorly at the
moment. A friend is coming over tomorrow to see if he can fix it, so absolute
worse case will be that I can scan it/them when I get back to work Monday
morning and email them then. 
 
Another possibility is that maybe I could take
a pic of the appropriate pages using my macro settings and then email them to
you... Oh wait - that woulod involve my sick PC too. We'll figure something
out. Let me know if you get the diagram some other way, otherwise count on me
getting you something to work with. Maybe I could take a pic with my phone?
 
Let me know,
 - David
Long Island

From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring

I'm ready to put my later model wiper motor
into the MKII, but just realized
that there are 5 wiring connections on the
'new' one, where my harness only
has three. I'm assuming that it has to do
with an intermittent feature of the
later models.
Does anyone have a wiring
diagram of the MUCH later models showing 5 wires
going to the wiper motor that
they would be willing to share with me? It
really sucks having no wipers when
we get afternoon showers and I'm trying to
drive home- a squeegee only sort of
works.
TIA


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 20 19:15:20 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:15:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <4B675F18-7749-49EB-BF88-D51F6778A902@verizon.net>
References: <4B675F18-7749-49EB-BF88-D51F6778A902@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AB39E6975CCE4A89BD8ABFEC51E5B73C@Thinkpad>

I think if you go with polyurethane then find some in a soft durometer.
Things are stiff enough in the rear of the Bugeye.

Now you got me worried,  I think I replaced mine about 3 years ago.
As I recall I got them from Winner's Circle at Carlisle.
I remember that it was hard to press out the old ones. 

I'll take a look at them tommorrow.

I think from here on out I'm just going to buy polyurethane rod stock
and turn my own bushings on the lathe.  That is what I did on the front 
shock attachments when I re-did the front end.

-----Original Message-----


I've got bushings on my rear trailing arms (stock) that are deteriorating
after 4 years of very limited use.  I also have a shock link with the inside
upper rubber gone missing.  These are on a quarter elliptic spring Mk 1 and
parts were new when I built the car.  These faults are probably what is
causing my car's torque steer.  Both faults are on the left rear.

I'm thinking of using poly, at least on the trailing arms but haven't
located
any yet.  Or maybe going to a heim jointed trailing arm to avoid the rubber
or
poly all together.  Does anyone have a source for the trailing arm poly
bushes
or thoughts on the conversion to heim jointed arms?  Maybe even a source for
rubber bushes that last longer than 4 years.  Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
------------------------

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 20 19:43:16 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:43:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <AB39E6975CCE4A89BD8ABFEC51E5B73C@Thinkpad>
References: <4B675F18-7749-49EB-BF88-D51F6778A902@verizon.net>
	<AB39E6975CCE4A89BD8ABFEC51E5B73C@Thinkpad>
Message-ID: <3D9A48DE-0D9E-46EB-8880-C97DC9604F57@chartermi.net>

I recommended Kirks Auto Refitters to Phil.  Robert Kirk has three different
type of bushings available - stock rubber, red polyurethane (hard), and blue
urethane (harder than stock but softer than red).

http://www.kirks-auto.com/

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 20, 2012, at 9:15 PM, "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I think if you go with polyurethane then find some in a soft durometer.
> Things are stiff enough in the rear of the Bugeye.
>
> Now you got me worried,  I think I replaced mine about 3 years ago.
> As I recall I got them from Winner's Circle at Carlisle.
> I remember that it was hard to press out the old ones.
>
> I'll take a look at them tommorrow.
>
> I think from here on out I'm just going to buy polyurethane rod stock
> and turn my own bushings on the lathe.  That is what I did on the front
> shock attachments when I re-did the front end.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I've got bushings on my rear trailing arms (stock) that are deteriorating
> after 4 years of very limited use.  I also have a shock link with the
inside
> upper rubber gone missing.  These are on a quarter elliptic spring Mk 1 and
> parts were new when I built the car.  These faults are probably what is
> causing my car's torque steer.  Both faults are on the left rear.
>
> I'm thinking of using poly, at least on the trailing arms but haven't
> located
> any yet.  Or maybe going to a heim jointed trailing arm to avoid the rubber
> or
> poly all together.  Does anyone have a source for the trailing arm poly
> bushes
> or thoughts on the conversion to heim jointed arms?  Maybe even a source
for
> rubber bushes that last longer than 4 years.  Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From wzharrison at comcast.net  Fri Jul 20 21:13:08 2012
From: wzharrison at comcast.net (Walt & Zoe Harrison)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:13:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <1342803943.58623.YahooMailNeo@web141405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <20120720.084502.24063.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
	<1342803943.58623.YahooMailNeo@web141405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021c01cd66ee$c111c7f0$433557d0$@comcast.net>

Just asking ... can anyone spell Xerox/US Postal Service?  Walt

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:06 AM
To: Mark Haynes; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring

Mark,
I have a Spridget manual that should have the proper diagram. I know it has
pages and pages of them - all of which are varying degrees of Greek to me,
but hey - I have them when I need them!  The manual is at the garage where I
keep the car, so won't be able to get at it till tonight or tomorrow
morning.
If nobody else can help out sooner, will try to scan the proper pages
tomorrow. Possible issue is that my computer is acting very poorly at the
moment. A friend is coming over tomorrow to see if he can fix it, so
absolute worse case will be that I can scan it/them when I get back to work
Monday morning and email them then. 
 
Another possibility is that maybe I could take a pic of the appropriate
pages using my macro settings and then email them to you... Oh wait - that
woulod involve my sick PC too. We'll figure something out. Let me know if
you get the diagram some other way, otherwise count on me getting you
something to work with. Maybe I could take a pic with my phone?
 
Let me know,
 - David
Long Island

From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring

I'm ready to put my later model wiper motor into the MKII, but just realized
that there are 5 wiring connections on the 'new' one, where my harness only
has three. I'm assuming that it has to do with an intermittent feature of
the later models.
Does anyone have a wiring
diagram of the MUCH later models showing 5 wires going to the wiper motor
that they would be willing to share with me? It really sucks having no
wipers when we get afternoon showers and I'm trying to drive home- a
squeegee only sort of works.
TIA


Mark Haynes
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul 21 04:09:51 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 06:09:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
Message-ID: <154bd.435c9ac5.3d3bd9ef@aol.com>

I think you mean in a soft shore hardness rating as measured by a  
durometer.  As an aside if you know somebody with a durometer it's  interesting to 
measure old tyres and new tyres on your Spridget and see how the  numbers 
stack up against the grip old and new tyres provide.
 
In a message dated 21/07/2012 02:19:50 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

I think  if you go with polyurethane then find some in a soft durometer.
Things are  stiff enough in the rear of the Bugeye.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul 21 04:12:38 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 06:12:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
Message-ID: <154ec.4ed855e2.3d3bda96@aol.com>

The list is quieter than it used to be.  Ron is active on  Facebook.
 
 
In a message dated 20/07/2012 21:40:37 GMT Daylight Time,  
refisk at chartermi.net writes:

Peter,

Do you know if President Soave is planning to go to  Grattan this year?  He
seems to have abandoned the list (along with  many others).  :-(

Rick

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 12:20:30 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:20:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money for daughter  getting married
Message-ID: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>

Our oldest let us know about a month ago she will be getting married here
at our house on August 25th.
I tried bribing her to elope instead but was unsuccessful.

She gave me a list of things to do before the wedding, and at the top was
"fix the bathroom".
Well I started and things have gone from bad to worse, you never know
what's lurking just below that layer of paint.

Long story, but the short of it is I need to raise some capital quickly.
We went to the bank and applied for an equity line of credit but I think
that may take too long to go through - if it even does.

I've got a couple things I'd be willing to part with for the right offer.

First there's my red '64 MK2 Sprite.
It runs and drives great, is 'mostly' solid, there are a couple small spots
of surface rust but insignificant.
It has a 948 out of a Bugeye (according to it's number plate) with a pair
of good working well tuned HS2's.
Shifts great and runs like a top.
It has a good AMCO hood on it with clear windows.
New Old Stock side curtains.
Fat bumpers with a nerf bar in front.
Good grille, good Sprite emblems front and back.
No cracks or dings in the windshield, which is lightly tinted green.
Good Bugeye steering wheel with the proper horn push - not a reproduction
bought from Ray Evans IIRC.
Most of the gauges are simply not connected, should work fine but not
hooked up.
Lights all work.
New carpet and redone Bugeye style seats with foams and covers from AH
Spares.

Someone tell me what this car is worth, I know what I paid and how much
work I've done to get it to be a driver.
Those things are irrelevant though, it's what the marketplace thinks that
counts.
The car is complete, has a few small issues but nothing major and isn't
dented or rusty.
Pictures on request.

The second thing is a Desert Eagle MK7 44mag firearm.
It's got a stainless lower, black upper and two black barrels.
One 6 inch with a 2x Leopold scope.
One 14 inch barrel with a 2x - 7x Burris handgun scope. This barrel has
only been used once, to sight in the scope.
I've got 4 or 5 mags that would also go with it and a nice heavy gauge
lockable case.
I could also add several hundred rounds of custom loaded ammo if the deal
is right.
If shipped out of state law seems to require I ship to your local FFL. You
would need to send me a copy of the FFL license to give to the shipping
company.
If transfer is made entirely here in my state (Washington) person to
person, then no FFL is required (my understanding of the regulations).
Pictures on request.

Please email me privately with any offers or advice, gotta get something
done for my little girl here.

Rick Bastedo

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Jul 21 12:50:02 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:50:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <154ec.4ed855e2.3d3bda96@aol.com>
References: <154ec.4ed855e2.3d3bda96@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2AC82D52-0E45-4F25-AD5B-C1176472D42F@chartermi.net>

I live in a bubble with only a couple of very small openings.  No Facebook
bare your soul (and every other piece of info they can find) to the world for
me.  I don't care what my high school classmates are doing today.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 21, 2012, at 6:12 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> The list is quieter than it used to be.  Ron is active on Facebook.
>
>
> In a message dated 20/07/2012 21:40:37 GMT Daylight Time,
refisk at chartermi.net writes:
> Peter,
>
> Do you know if President Soave is planning to go to Grattan this year?  He
> seems to have abandoned the list (along with many others).  :-(
>
> Rick

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 21 13:02:43 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money  for daughter  getting married
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D45C54831E6474DA16973762DFF618A@spider>

Bummer about the bathroom. 

Rent a porta-potty that will sit in the front yard. See what she says the
first time she sees it.

Good luck with growing family. Bill in Corvallis

===============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:21 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite, Desert Eagle: raising money for
daughter getting married

Our oldest let us know about a month ago she will be getting married here
at our house on August 25th.
I tried bribing her to elope instead but was unsuccessful.

She gave me a list of things to do before the wedding, and at the top was
"fix the bathroom".
Well I started and things have gone from bad to worse, you never know
what's lurking just below that layer of paint.

Long story, but the short of it is I need to raise some capital quickly.
We went to the bank and applied for an equity line of credit but I think
that may take too long to go through - if it even does.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 21 14:34:57 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:34:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <154bd.435c9ac5.3d3bd9ef@aol.com>
References: <154bd.435c9ac5.3d3bd9ef@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6D4C8C241FD3473BB864504990379F65@Thinkpad>

No, I meant a soft durometer.and I think everyone understood what I meant.

We measure the hardness in durometer.  And I want the "soft measure of
durometer". :-)

 

  _____  

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:10 AM
To: dlh2001 at comcast.net; nases at verizon.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] poly bushings

 

I think you mean in a soft shore hardness rating as measured by a durometer.
As an aside if you know somebody with a durometer it's interesting to
measure old tyres and new tyres on your Spridget and see how the numbers
stack up against the grip old and new tyres provide.

 

In a message dated 21/07/2012 02:19:50 GMT Daylight Time,
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

I think if you go with polyurethane then find some in a soft durometer.
Things are stiff enough in the rear of the Bugeye.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Jul 21 15:27:57 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:27:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <6D4C8C241FD3473BB864504990379F65@Thinkpad>
References: <154bd.435c9ac5.3d3bd9ef@aol.com>
	<6D4C8C241FD3473BB864504990379F65@Thinkpad>
Message-ID: <A029FB0F-8131-4AE1-A487-6F90464D09FB@chartermi.net>

I looked it up because I wasn't sure how this all works.  Turns our
"durometer" is a unit of hardness measurement defined by Albert F. Shore back
in the twenties.  Confusingly enough "Durometer" is also the name of the
instrument used to measure durometers.  Clear as mud.  :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durometer

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 21, 2012, at 4:34 PM, "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> No, I meant a soft durometer.and I think everyone understood what I meant.
>
> We measure the hardness in durometer.  And I want the "soft measure of
> durometer". :-)
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:10 AM
> To: dlh2001 at comcast.net; nases at verizon.net
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] poly bushings
>
>
>
> I think you mean in a soft shore hardness rating as measured by a
durometer.
> As an aside if you know somebody with a durometer it's interesting to
> measure old tyres and new tyres on your Spridget and see how the numbers
> stack up against the grip old and new tyres provide.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Jul 21 16:14:37 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:14:37 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
In-Reply-To: <2AC82D52-0E45-4F25-AD5B-C1176472D42F@chartermi.net>
References: <154ec.4ed855e2.3d3bda96@aol.com>
	<2AC82D52-0E45-4F25-AD5B-C1176472D42F@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <57141.184.227.51.124.1342908877.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

You're not alone!  ;-)
DW

> I live in a bubble with only a couple of very small openings.  No Facebook
> bare your soul (and every other piece of info they can find) to the world
> for
> me.  I don't care what my high school classmates are doing today.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 6:12 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> The list is quieter than it used to be.  Ron is active on Facebook.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 20/07/2012 21:40:37 GMT Daylight Time,
> refisk at chartermi.net writes:
>> Peter,
>>
>> Do you know if President Soave is planning to go to Grattan this year?
>> He
>> seems to have abandoned the list (along with many others).  :-(
>>
>> Rick
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From nases at verizon.net  Sat Jul 21 16:40:04 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:40:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
Message-ID: <798C7CBB-3876-4AC0-A470-C1C4E7725899@verizon.net>

Looks like I may be shopping for rear springs for a Bugeye. I know in the past
some new springs appeared over sprung making the car appear to sit high. I
don't know where they were purchased.  I see Moss' springs are listed as Rally
type 10 leaves I think.

Any suggestions where to buy new?

Phil Nase
Applebachsville, PA
http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 21 16:57:10 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:57:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
In-Reply-To: <798C7CBB-3876-4AC0-A470-C1C4E7725899@verizon.net>
References: <798C7CBB-3876-4AC0-A470-C1C4E7725899@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <6A3A4050168249D49DEAA34A513B7751@spider>

If 10 leaves sit too high, you take one or two out? ...bill in corvallis

==============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:40 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team. Net net
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs

Looks like I may be shopping for rear springs for a Bugeye. I know in the
past
some new springs appeared over sprung making the car appear to sit high. I
don't know where they were purchased.  I see Moss' springs are listed as
Rally
type 10 leaves I think.

Any suggestions where to buy new?

Phil Nase
Applebachsville, PA
http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Jul 21 17:12:22 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:12:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money  for daughter  getting married
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <500B3756.7030909@bradakis.com>

I assume you meet the prospective groom and approve, otherwise
you might want to keep that Desert Eagle close to hand ;-)

mjb.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 21 17:27:50 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:27:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money   for daughter  getting married
In-Reply-To: <500B3756.7030909@bradakis.com>
References: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<500B3756.7030909@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <EF5EB5D6588744C78C1D7CF9C950D37D@spider>

We lived in Compton California in the late 1950's. My father always met my
sister's dates sitting in his recliner ...with an Winchester 1892 across his
lap. Old School. ...bill in oregon
==================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 4:12 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite, Desert Eagle: raising money for
daughter getting married

I assume you meet the prospective groom and approve, otherwise
you might want to keep that Desert Eagle close to hand ;-)

mjb.
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Jul 21 17:41:01 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:41:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
In-Reply-To: <6A3A4050168249D49DEAA34A513B7751@spider>
References: <798C7CBB-3876-4AC0-A470-C1C4E7725899@verizon.net>
	<6A3A4050168249D49DEAA34A513B7751@spider>
Message-ID: <60C72AC2-97EC-45D9-82CE-9379A53775C6@chartermi.net>

Tom Colby at Speedwell Engineering removes 4 leaves from the standard 15 leaf
spring to soften the rate to an acceptable level.  Two or three leaves removed
from the Moss "Rally" spring would probably be just about right.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 21, 2012, at 6:57 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> If 10 leaves sit too high, you take one or two out? ...bill in corvallis
>
> ==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:40 PM
> To: Spridgets at autox.team. Net net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
>
> Looks like I may be shopping for rear springs for a Bugeye. I know in the
> past
> some new springs appeared over sprung making the car appear to sit high. I
> don't know where they were purchased.  I see Moss' springs are listed as
> Rally
> type 10 leaves I think.
>
> Any suggestions where to buy new?
>
> Phil Nase
> Applebachsville, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 17:43:46 2012
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:43:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <A029FB0F-8131-4AE1-A487-6F90464D09FB@chartermi.net>
References: <154bd.435c9ac5.3d3bd9ef@aol.com>
	<6D4C8C241FD3473BB864504990379F65@Thinkpad>
	<A029FB0F-8131-4AE1-A487-6F90464D09FB@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CAM6-Rjfogoks3dY0MbwdT0eQFoAS34oDOtK8pKQrOxf1u8cD6A@mail.gmail.com>

"England and America: two countries separated by a common language."
Mark Twain (unless it was somebody else...
Hal

On 7/21/12, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> I looked it up because I wasn't sure how this all works.  Turns our
> "durometer" is a unit of hardness measurement defined by Albert F. Shore
> back
> in the twenties.  Confusingly enough "Durometer" is also the name of the
> instrument used to measure durometers.  Clear as mud.  :-)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durometer
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 4:34 PM, "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> No, I meant a soft durometer.and I think everyone understood what I
>> meant.
>>
>> We measure the hardness in durometer.  And I want the "soft measure of
>> durometer". :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:10 AM
>> To: dlh2001 at comcast.net; nases at verizon.net
>> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] poly bushings
>>
>>
>>
>> I think you mean in a soft shore hardness rating as measured by a
> durometer.
>> As an aside if you know somebody with a durometer it's interesting to
>> measure old tyres and new tyres on your Spridget and see how the numbers
>> stack up against the grip old and new tyres provide.
> ------------------------
>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 21 18:00:53 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:00:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-Rjfogoks3dY0MbwdT0eQFoAS34oDOtK8pKQrOxf1u8cD6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <154bd.435c9ac5.3d3bd9ef@aol.com><6D4C8C241FD3473BB864504990379F65@Thinkpad><A029FB0F-8131-4AE1-A487-6F90464D09FB@chartermi.net>
	<CAM6-Rjfogoks3dY0MbwdT0eQFoAS34oDOtK8pKQrOxf1u8cD6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <903224B4A8A14B609C6A16B60ADBB99D@spider>

http://transremaxculver.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/an-annoying-quote/
...bill in oregon
=================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hal Faulkner
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 4:44 PM
To: Rick Fisk
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] poly bushings

"England and America: two countries separated by a common language."
Mark Twain (unless it was somebody else...
Hal

m

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Jul 21 18:15:19 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 19:15:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
In-Reply-To: <60C72AC2-97EC-45D9-82CE-9379A53775C6@chartermi.net>
References: <798C7CBB-3876-4AC0-A470-C1C4E7725899@verizon.net><6A3A4050168249D49DEAA34A513B7751@spider>
	<60C72AC2-97EC-45D9-82CE-9379A53775C6@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <49C4AED8A0134CD1BDDEF36FA8CB8301@leosHP>

Or if you want the ride softer you can have the leaves teflon immpregnated. 
No rust issues and the ridge becomes softer due to a reduction in the 
friction between leaves.  Had nine done by POLYDYNE coating in houston tx

Leo
-----Original Message----- 
From: Rick Fisk
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:41 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs

Tom Colby at Speedwell Engineering removes 4 leaves from the standard 15 
leaf
spring to soften the rate to an acceptable level.  Two or three leaves 
removed
from the Moss "Rally" spring would probably be just about right.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 21, 2012, at 6:57 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> If 10 leaves sit too high, you take one or two out? ...bill in corvallis
>
> ==============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:40 PM
> To: Spridgets at autox.team. Net net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
>
> Looks like I may be shopping for rear springs for a Bugeye. I know in the
> past
> some new springs appeared over sprung making the car appear to sit high. I
> don't know where they were purchased.  I see Moss' springs are listed as
> Rally
> type 10 leaves I think.
>
> Any suggestions where to buy new?
>
> Phil Nase
> Applebachsville, PA
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From nases at verizon.net  Sat Jul 21 19:06:49 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:06:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
In-Reply-To: <60C72AC2-97EC-45D9-82CE-9379A53775C6@chartermi.net>
References: <798C7CBB-3876-4AC0-A470-C1C4E7725899@verizon.net>
	<6A3A4050168249D49DEAA34A513B7751@spider>
	<60C72AC2-97EC-45D9-82CE-9379A53775C6@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <876958B2-A9AB-4335-BCA5-0B99C0E2D284@verizon.net>

Which 2 or 3 would that be?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rick Fisk wrote:

> Tom Colby at Speedwell Engineering removes 4 leaves from the standard 15
leaf
> spring to soften the rate to an acceptable level.  Two or three leaves
removed
> from the Moss "Rally" spring would probably be just about right.
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 6:57 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> If 10 leaves sit too high, you take one or two out? ...bill in corvallis
>>
>> ==============================================
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:40 PM
>> To: Spridgets at autox.team. Net net
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
>>
>> Looks like I may be shopping for rear springs for a Bugeye. I know in the
>> past
>> some new springs appeared over sprung making the car appear to sit high. I
>> don't know where they were purchased.  I see Moss' springs are listed as
>> Rally
>> type 10 leaves I think.
>>
>> Any suggestions where to buy new?
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Applebachsville, PA
>> http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/
>> ------------------------
>>
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Jul 22 03:21:13 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:21:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
Message-ID: <804a.8429221.3d3d2008@aol.com>

Except me and any other Brits?
 
 
In a message dated 21/07/2012 21:34:58 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

and I  think everyone understood what I meant

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Sun Jul 22 05:30:23 2012
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:30:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2824.1342948734.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.2824.1342948734.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <500BE44F.4080802@comcast.net>

bill in oregon wrote:
> http://transremaxculver.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/an-annoying-quote/

Regarding the comment from that page that said, "The most watched event 
in human history and he forgets the a, one small step for A man, 
how hard is that, I ask you.:

Neil Armstrong said that he said "a man", but the "a" was lost in the
transmission. I believe him. However, time and repetition and now
apparently study of the audio waveforms and audio spectrograms has
has given us quote we know.

<http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.step.html>

--
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN-2

From lmacy at mac.com  Sun Jul 22 06:01:16 2012
From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:01:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money  for daughter getting married
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <394C2EE2-2DCB-4D1D-92F9-A6E40937C6B9@mac.com>

Too bad so sad, That she has to live with the bathroom as it is. Or pay for it to get refurbished, or use a porta-potty. Now don't get me wrong, It's her wedding and Dad is supposed to be there, but this is beyond the pale. You can either live with what you have, or go someplace else. Is it that she is ashamed of "Dear Old Dad" and how he lives, or is it that you feel that way. Make the choice. Or make her make the choice. 

If I understand correctly, you started this at her insistence, and I know how a daughter's insistence can be a bit over whelming (Kristi, you there??), but to give up a life long love for another, why would she make you make that choice??

Elopement, or bust??

Larry
Father of 2 demented daughters


On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I tried bribing her to elope instead but was unsuccessful.
> 
> She gave me a list of things to do before the wedding, and at the top was
> "fix the bathroom".
> Well I started and things have gone from bad to worse, you never know
> what's lurking just below that layer of paint.
> 
> Long story, but the short of it is I need to raise some capital quickly.
> We went to the bank and applied for an equity line of credit but I think
> that may take too long to go through - if it even does.
> 
> I've got a couple things I'd be willing to part with for the right offer.
> 
> First there's my red '64 MK2 Sprite.

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.


Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

"Life begins and the end of your comfort zone" 
Neale Donald Walsch

From lmacy at mac.com  Sun Jul 22 06:03:22 2012
From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:03:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <804a.8429221.3d3d2008@aol.com>
References: <804a.8429221.3d3d2008@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9C3B039C-C5AA-4245-8D38-24541C38131C@mac.com>

Waaa Waaa Waaa, Brits these days, they think that after loosing their Empire, they still have the right to rule the language. 

ED

On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:21 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> Except me and any other Brits?
> 
> 
> In a message dated 21/07/2012 21:34:58 GMT Daylight Time,  
> dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:
> 
> and I  think everyone understood what I meant
> ------------------------
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Senior IT Program Director
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence.
 - Edgar Allen Poe

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Jul 22 06:10:25 2012
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:10:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money   for daughter getting married
In-Reply-To: <394C2EE2-2DCB-4D1D-92F9-A6E40937C6B9@mac.com>
References: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<394C2EE2-2DCB-4D1D-92F9-A6E40937C6B9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2432A981E7E0474291B17A92861BE9AD@Home>

> Elopement, or bust??

Shouldn't it be, "Elopement or burst?"  A typo, perhaps.

Anon.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 22 06:11:41 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:11:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
In-Reply-To: <9C3B039C-C5AA-4245-8D38-24541C38131C@mac.com>
References: <804a.8429221.3d3d2008@aol.com>
	<9C3B039C-C5AA-4245-8D38-24541C38131C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <17FA58277C5E41B6AAEAA881C3821F18@spider>

Then there's France.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_France
...bill in oregun
=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Macy
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 5:03 AM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] poly bushings

Waaa Waaa Waaa, Brits these days, they think that after loosing their
Empire, they still have the right to rule the language. 

ED

From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Jul 22 06:31:01 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:31:01 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] poly bushings
References: <804a.8429221.3d3d2008@aol.com>
	<9C3B039C-C5AA-4245-8D38-24541C38131C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F191868CBC684195AE1FE63A183C7516@user8634b3d69b>

Can we get back to the list being quiet if this is all we get?

Guy R Day




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Macy" <lmacy at mac.com>
To: <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] poly bushings


> Waaa Waaa Waaa, Brits these days, they think that after loosing their 
> Empire, they still have the right to rule the language.
>
> ED
>
> On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:21 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Except me and any other Brits?
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 21/07/2012 21:34:58 GMT Daylight Time,
>> dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:
>>
>> and I  think everyone understood what I meant
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
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> -- 
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> macy at upenn.edu
> Senior IT Program Director
> Neuropsychiatry Section
> Department of Psychiatry
> University of Pennsylvania
> 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
>
> I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence.
> - Edgar Allen Poe
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 07:53:31 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 06:53:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money   for daughter getting married
In-Reply-To: <394C2EE2-2DCB-4D1D-92F9-A6E40937C6B9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1342965211.12271.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

You can take my Sprite/Desert Eagle from my cold dead hands?

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sun, 7/22/12, Larry Macy <lmacy at mac.com> wrote:

Elopement, or bust??

Larry
Father of 2 demented daughters

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jul 22 10:16:56 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:16:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money  for daughter getting married
In-Reply-To: <394C2EE2-2DCB-4D1D-92F9-A6E40937C6B9@mac.com>
References: <CABWjhcJYGm_xhzr5HnfxROtoALfWLTaviiry6r_qEFR+unMVZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<394C2EE2-2DCB-4D1D-92F9-A6E40937C6B9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CABWjhcL27VVezdAY+nhAvwGRWWbjU9+k=UuwcLyWvPRp+RU54g@mail.gmail.com>

I hear you loud and clear!
To be fair though the bathroom really does need it and my wife had been
making the same request for a while.
I'll have to do as much as I can with the funds available and see where
that gets us.
My daughter has been a trooper scraping the old paint off the back of the
house prepping for paint, and this is my demented daughter who has MS.
I'm glad to try and make things nice for her.

Rick (she's still my little princess) Bastedo
 On Jul 22, 2012 5:01 AM, "Larry Macy" <lmacy at mac.com> wrote:

> Too bad so sad, That she has to live with the bathroom as it is. Or pay
> for it to get refurbished, or use a porta-potty. Now don't get me wrong,
> It's her wedding and Dad is supposed to be there, but this is beyond the
> pale. You can either live with what you have, or go someplace else. Is it
> that she is ashamed of "Dear Old Dad" and how he lives, or is it that you
> feel that way. Make the choice. Or make her make the choice.
>
> If I understand correctly, you started this at her insistence, and I know
> how a daughter's insistence can be a bit over whelming (Kristi, you
> there??), but to give up a life long love for another, why would she make
> you make that choice??
>
> Elopement, or bust??
>
> Larry
> Father of 2 demented daughters
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I tried bribing her to elope instead but was unsuccessful.
> >
> > She gave me a list of things to do before the wedding, and at the top was
> > "fix the bathroom".
> > Well I started and things have gone from bad to worse, you never know
> > what's lurking just below that layer of paint.
> >
> > Long story, but the short of it is I need to raise some capital quickly.
> > We went to the bank and applied for an equity line of credit but I think
> > that may take too long to go through - if it even does.
> >
> > I've got a couple things I'd be willing to part with for the right offer.
> >
> > First there's my red '64 MK2 Sprite.
>
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Secretary
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> "Life begins and the end of your comfort zone"
> Neale Donald Walsch

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Jul 22 12:06:40 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:06:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
References: <798C7CBB-3876-4AC0-A470-C1C4E7725899@verizon.net>
	<6A3A4050168249D49DEAA34A513B7751@spider>
	<60C72AC2-97EC-45D9-82CE-9379A53775C6@chartermi.net>
	<876958B2-A9AB-4335-BCA5-0B99C0E2D284@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <001101cd6834$be78fa80$8701a8c0@refisk>

Took me a while to locate the email from Tom Colby.  He removes leaves 2,4,6,8
on a 15 leaf spring, with number 1 being the long leaf.  I imagine removing 2
and 4 on the 10 leaf spring would work.  Ride height can be set by using
tapered shims under the spring where it bolts to the chassis.  Shims are
available from Napa - off the shelf parts.

Rick
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Phil Nase
  To: Rick Fisk
  Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs


  Which 2 or 3 would that be?


  Phil Nase
  Quakertown, PA
  http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/





  On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rick Fisk wrote:


    Tom Colby at Speedwell Engineering removes 4 leaves from the standard 15
leaf
    spring to soften the rate to an acceptable level.  Two or three leaves
removed
    from the Moss "Rally" spring would probably be just about right.

    Rick

From DWilson at eatechnical.com  Sun Jul 22 14:01:21 2012
From: DWilson at eatechnical.com (Wilson, Doug)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:01:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter Elliptical Springs
Message-ID: <24FDA93382D6BD45B13FE356EB70720D4FAF2920F0@HOUMAIL02.quantaservices.local>

Some years ago I raced a sprite and have two solutions for your springs and
have attached pictures, but not certain it will appear on forum. One solution
is pretty easy and the other was a real pain but effective. The easy solution
is an unused set of rally springs with the serial number and catalog tag still
attached. The second solution is a race set  up. It includes a spring with a
straight main spring (no arch) and leafs of various thickness and arch. I had
Landrum Springs make these for me. The leafs are .260 and .290. With the
various leafs  we could actually "corner weight" the car without messing up
the front ride height too much. When you reduce the leafs you may need spacers
for the U bolt to tighten up. The spacers are included. The spacers can go
above or below the spring depending upon whether you want to raise or lower
the corner. I'll sale either set for $100 plus shipping from Atlanta.
dwilson at eatechnical.com

Doug Wilson

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Quater Elliptical Springs New.jpg]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Sprint Tag.jpg]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Race Springs Adjustable Used.jpg]

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jul 22 20:17:44 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:17:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1964 MK2 Sprite -raising money for daughter getting
	married
Message-ID: <CABWjhcL6CK9YnF71uZodNd0vNFvkTLA2RfA_NNNjYZnDbG6X_Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have put an ad on Craigslist.
Contact me for special pricing for Sprite Midget club USA members :)

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3156558830.html

Rick ($ amount that would be nice...) Bastedo


On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I hear you loud and clear!
> To be fair though the bathroom really does need it and my wife had been
> making the same request for a while.
> I'll have to do as much as I can with the funds available and see where
> that gets us.
> My daughter has been a trooper scraping the old paint off the back of the
> house prepping for paint, and this is my demented daughter who has MS.
> I'm glad to try and make things nice for her.
>
> Rick (she's still my little princess) Bastedo
>  On Jul 22, 2012 5:01 AM, "Larry Macy" <lmacy at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Too bad so sad, That she has to live with the bathroom as it is. Or pay
>> for it to get refurbished, or use a porta-potty. Now don't get me wrong,
>> It's her wedding and Dad is supposed to be there, but this is beyond the
>> pale. You can either live with what you have, or go someplace else. Is it
>> that she is ashamed of "Dear Old Dad" and how he lives, or is it that you
>> feel that way. Make the choice. Or make her make the choice.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, you started this at her insistence, and I know
>> how a daughter's insistence can be a bit over whelming (Kristi, you
>> there??), but to give up a life long love for another, why would she make
>> you make that choice??
>>
>> Elopement, or bust??
>>
>> Larry
>> Father of 2 demented daughters
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I tried bribing her to elope instead but was unsuccessful.
>> >
>> > She gave me a list of things to do before the wedding, and at the top
>> was
>> > "fix the bathroom".
>> > Well I started and things have gone from bad to worse, you never know
>> > what's lurking just below that layer of paint.
>> >
>> > Long story, but the short of it is I need to raise some capital quickly.
>> > We went to the bank and applied for an equity line of credit but I think
>> > that may take too long to go through - if it even does.
>> >
>> > I've got a couple things I'd be willing to part with for the right
>> offer.
>> >
>> > First there's my red '64 MK2 Sprite.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Larry Macy
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
>> Board Secretary
>> Philadelphia MG Club
>>
>> "Life begins and the end of your comfort zone"
>> Neale Donald Walsch

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul 23 06:39:15 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:39:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering column, horn parts 27H3387 - 69 Sprite (UK)
Message-ID: <849fa.62810dea.3d3e9ff3@aol.com>

Hi list,
 
 
While  replacing the felt bush in my 69 Sprite I managed to undo the 
temporary repair  I'd previously made to the the nipple ended wire that has one 
end in the side of  the column and the other at the top centre of the column. 
So, since the parts  are NLA if anyone has an old one (27H 3387), parts I 
can re-solder, or a source  of the non-standard nipples can they let me know. 
If anyone also has a 7H 6902  spring or a source for one I'd be grateful.  
Those plastic things might  come in useful as well.  I've posted this on the 
MG Cars bulletin board as  well so hopefully someone will turn up what I 
need.  Until then I'll be in  the garage soldering and swearing! 
Weslake-Monza 1330

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 23 08:41:01 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:41:01 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs
Message-ID: <20120723.084101.15783.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Phil- I put (I think)4 leaf race springs from one of the usual suspects on the
BE with a 5/8" spacer underneath to enable use of the original U bolts and
attachment hardware. The pacers are a bit of a one off, being milled from
6Al-4V Titanium with a large slot for the spring clamp pin and the correct
holes for the through bolts. I placed the spacer under the springs, and the BE
is rock solid and level. I can check tonight on how many leaves there are if
need be.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016


Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:40:04 -0400
From: Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net>
To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic springs


Looks like I may be shopping for rear springs for a Bugeye. I know in the
past
some new springs appeared over sprung making the car appear to sit high. I
don't know where they were purchased.  I see Moss' springs are listed as
Rally
type 10 leaves I think.

Any suggestions where to buy new?

Phil Nase
Applebachsville, PA
http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/

____________________________________________________________
Better Than A Facelift&#63
Doctor Reveals Lazy Way To Look Up To 15 Years Younger in 17 Seconds

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 23 08:49:27 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:49:27 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
Message-ID: <20120723.084927.15783.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Since there's so much whining about it being quiet, I thought that I'd share a
question with you all that I was going to ask Peter C.
I'm planning on freshening the snotty little engine in the BE this winter.
When I was planning the engine for the MKII, I turned an aluminum flywheel for
it that mated to a 1275 clutch cover.
So, what says the list, should I turn a flywheel that mates with a 948 cover
for the snotty little guy or make it work as hard as it always has?
BTW, the Al flywheel that I turned needed NO balancing when sent out-they did,
however take a small amount off of the clutch cover. And I saved 22 lbs of
rotating mass in the process!


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

____________________________________________________________
Woman is 53 But Looks 25
Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul 23 10:39:27 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:39:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
In-Reply-To: <20120723.084927.15783.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20120723.084927.15783.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <5A4766E4-17B8-4858-B940-7734AC5F8E3A@chartermi.net>

I don't care about that.

I want to know what this "1 simple wrinke trick" is.  :-)

Rick


Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> Since there's so much whining about it being quiet, I thought that I'd share
a
> question with you all that I was going to ask Peter C.
> I'm planning on freshening the snotty little engine in the BE this winter.
> When I was planning the engine for the MKII, I turned an aluminum flywheel
for
> it that mated to a 1275 clutch cover.
> So, what says the list, should I turn a flywheel that mates with a 948
cover
> for the snotty little guy or make it work as hard as it always has?
> BTW, the Al flywheel that I turned needed NO balancing when sent out-they
did,
> however take a small amount off of the clutch cover. And I saved 22 lbs of
> rotating mass in the process!
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> AN5L8016
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 53 But Looks 25
> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
> ------------------------

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 23 12:09:05 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:09:05 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
Message-ID: <20120723.120905.12250.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

It'd really simple, Rick--DON"T LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!



Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016





I don't care about that.

I want to know what this "1 simple wrinke trick" is.  :-)

Rick

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Jul 23 12:54:03 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:54:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops; meant to spam the list.
In-Reply-To: <01F06AC5905841968172BACDA3DEFB95@spider>
References: <01F06AC5905841968172BACDA3DEFB95@spider>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP17852B046863D0C4A1EC10B8DD0@phx.gbl>

You forgot 'Zappa'...

Robert
I intend to live forever, or die trying.

On 2012-07-20, at 4:47 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:45 PM
> To: 'Peter Caldwell'
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
>
> Cats, guns, twisted axles shafts, rib cage transmission, heim joints,
> plastic bushings, Moss, China, China again, roll bars, drinking, British
Ale
> versus American Lager.
>
> ====================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:33 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
>
> Fair enough. I wasn't calling anyone out. This used to be a busy
> list, and now......... yawn....
>
>         Peter C
> =
> At 03:10 PM 7/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>> I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a late model car with the 5
> wire
>> motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(
>>
>> If anyone else needs it let me know.
>>
>> Rick
> ------------------------

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul 23 13:16:46 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:16:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
In-Reply-To: <20120723.084927.15783.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20120723.084927.15783.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <319DD84D-B601-403C-8F64-42B8CE151A77@chartermi.net>

Actually I do care Mark.  I have no experience with aluminum flywheels, but I
wonder if they are really a good idea for a street car.  I have a 948 with a
lightened steel flywheel.  It was lightened per the factory go-fast
instructions.  But it hasn't been down the road yet as I'm a little slow
getting things done sometimes.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> Since there's so much whining about it being quiet, I thought that I'd share
a
> question with you all that I was going to ask Peter C.
> I'm planning on freshening the snotty little engine in the BE this winter.
> When I was planning the engine for the MKII, I turned an aluminum flywheel
for
> it that mated to a 1275 clutch cover.
> So, what says the list, should I turn a flywheel that mates with a 948
cover
> for the snotty little guy or make it work as hard as it always has?
> BTW, the Al flywheel that I turned needed NO balancing when sent out-they
did,
> however take a small amount off of the clutch cover. And I saved 22 lbs of
> rotating mass in the process!
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> AN5L8016
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> Woman is 53 But Looks 25
> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
> ------------------------

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Mon Jul 23 13:31:18 2012
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:31:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
References: <20120723.084927.15783.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<319DD84D-B601-403C-8F64-42B8CE151A77@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <761F8858262344C789A88087498CCD7A@CGI.COMMTECH>

While I don't have an aluminum flywheel in my Bugeye I do have one in 
another car.  It is over 500 HP and it takes 2000 + RPM to launch from a 
stop light.  I think it is a bit light for a street car but it does wind up 
fast.  With such a short first gear in a Bugeye would you have time to shift 
to second before you over rev?  I think I would stay with the rotating mass 
in a street car.

Mark
Nashville




----- Original Message ----- 


> Actually I do care Mark.  I have no experience with aluminum flywheels, 
> but I
> wonder if they are really a good idea for a street car.  I have a 948 with 
> a
> lightened steel flywheel.  It was lightened per the factory go-fast
> instructions.  But it hasn't been down the road yet as I'm a little slow
> getting things done sometimes.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul 23 14:17:52 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:17:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
Message-ID: <1c602.470e038a.3d3f0b70@aol.com>

The 1275 aluminium flywheel does have a steel centre?  You're asking  
whether or not you should now make an aluminium flywheel for a 948 clutch rather  
than use the 1275 aluminium flywheel you already have?  If so I'd use  
whichever one was lightest and had the nicest action.
 
The question of whether or not it will need a lot of revs from a standing  
start because it will have a very light flywheel cannot be correctly 
answered  without knowing the spec of the rest of the engine, especially the cam.   
Also, you'd need to consider the weight of the clutch as well and probably 
even  the crank and rods.  However, I doubt you're going to have much of a  
problem and nothing that can't be overcome with a couple more hundred rpm.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 23/07/2012 17:13:13 GMT Daylight Time,  
haynes386 at netzero.net writes:

Since  there's so much whining about it being quiet, I thought that I'd 
share  a
question with you all that I was going to ask Peter C.
I'm planning on  freshening the snotty little engine in the BE this winter.
When I was  planning the engine for the MKII, I turned an aluminum flywheel 
for
it that  mated to a 1275 clutch cover.
So, what says the list, should I turn a  flywheel that mates with a 948 
cover
for the snotty little guy or make it  work as hard as it always has?
BTW, the Al flywheel that I turned needed NO  balancing when sent out-they 
did,
however take a small amount off of the  clutch cover. And I saved 22 lbs of
rotating mass in the  process!


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it  Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

From dxcamp at bsink.com  Mon Jul 23 16:04:31 2012
From: dxcamp at bsink.com (David Camp)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:04:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops; meant to spam the list.
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP17852B046863D0C4A1EC10B8DD0@phx.gbl>
References: <01F06AC5905841968172BACDA3DEFB95@spider>
	<BLU0-SMTP17852B046863D0C4A1EC10B8DD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <016f01cd691f$23599af0$6a0cd0d0$@bsink.com>

And Montana Bob.

Dave In Kent, OH

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:54 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] whoops; meant to spam the list.

You forgot 'Zappa'...

Robert
I intend to live forever, or die trying.

On 2012-07-20, at 4:47 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:45 PM
> To: 'Peter Caldwell'
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
>
> Cats, guns, twisted axles shafts, rib cage transmission, heim joints, 
> plastic bushings, Moss, China, China again, roll bars, drinking, 
> British
Ale
> versus American Lager.
>
> ====================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net 
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:33 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wiper motor wiring
>
> Fair enough. I wasn't calling anyone out. This used to be a busy list, 
> and now......... yawn....
>
>         Peter C
> =
> At 03:10 PM 7/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>> I sent Mark a pdf of the wiring diagram for a late model car with the 
>> 5
> wire
>> motor.  Can't do that on the list.  :-(
>>
>> If anyone else needs it let me know.
>>
>> Rick
> ------------------------
------------------------

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jul 23 16:17:51 2012
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:17:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
In-Reply-To: <1c602.470e038a.3d3f0b70@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CC331B9F.1F7AD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Use whichever one has the correct number of holes to mate with your
crankshaft. Or better yet, use the 1275 flywheel and put a 1275 in front of
it.

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 16:59:59 2012
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
an update.

I'll start:
I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
 It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
it up and sell it on.

Anyone else like to do a status update?

-Trevor

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 23 17:03:51 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:03:51 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
Message-ID: <20120723.170351.23706.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

Aahh, so that's why the MKII has such a hard time getting started from a dead
stop on a steep pitch, there's no rotating mass to help the engine maintain
the RPMs needed to get it going then?
Yes, it has a Tilton insert, BTW I'm not too silly!

Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

Please note: message attached

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
To: haynes386 at netzero.net, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flywheel in BE
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:17:52 -0400 (EDT)



____________________________________________________________
Mom Lazy Way to Look Young
Doctor Reveals Way to Look Significantly Younger in 17 Seconds

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul 23 17:13:06 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:13:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6EFA830E-B50C-4A6F-8036-FB814A84DDE3@chartermi.net>

I like the paint on your Bugeye.

I have a '59 Bugeye that I've owned since 1968.  Needs to be put back
together.
I have a '61 Deep Pink Sprite that was going to be a vintage racer, but will
probably end up as a semi-hopped up street car.
I have the '79 Party Midget, bought solely for the purpose of going to the
Midget 50th.  The plan was to sell it after the party, but it's still here and
gets driven nearly every day.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 23, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
> an update.
>
> I'll start:
> I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
> It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
> I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
> needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
> I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
> it up and sell it on.
>
> Anyone else like to do a status update?
>
> -Trevor
> ------------------------

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Jul 23 17:47:50 2012
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:47:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1498056468.20120723164750@pacifier.com>

Hello Trevor,


       I have acquired...

        a rebuilt 1275 engines bench tested and ready to install. .030
    over bore, with  new bearings , timing chain and cam gear , oil pump , tappets ,
    regrind street     cam , head is magnifluxed , resurfaced ,
     new exhaust valves and springs. A  Manflow LCB header with complete exhaust
     system, a Weber 32/36 carb, a manual choke conversion kit for
     same, air filter for same, new pilot bush to adaptation to Datsun
     5 speed, 1275 flywheel for same, modified by Paul A. ..

     It goes into the shop next monday, the 30th..This replaces a 1098
     with a .020 overbore with a mild street cam, stock exhaust except
     for harley "shorty" muffler, and correct SUs on a stock manifold. 

     

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Questions, questions! Does it ever end?! 

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jul 23 17:55:50 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:55:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <1498056468.20120723164750@pacifier.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<1498056468.20120723164750@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <500DE486.3070705@justbrits.com>

<< On 7/23/2012 6:47 PM, Bill L wrote:

		It goes into the shop next monday, the 30th. >>

WHY, Bill L. ????  Body work ??  Paint ??

Ed

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul 23 18:03:43 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:03:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <E6BDF8D3C3D74EF58C048DAEB7FEB683@spider>

Me next. I have a 1961 Mercedes sedan, 190Db. The post office lost my two
right rear brake shoes. Replacements cost $300 per shoe, and I need 4 shoes
as the left sides are wrong. ...bill in oregon
=========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:00 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
an update.

I'll start:
I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
 It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
it up and sell it on.

Anyone else like to do a status update?

-Trevor
------------------------

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Jul 23 22:28:47 2012
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:28:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <500DE486.3070705@justbrits.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<1498056468.20120723164750@pacifier.com>
	<500DE486.3070705@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <1851373363.20120723212847@pacifier.com>

Hello Just,

     It's not that I CAN'T do the work, it's that I'm one of those who
     would rather drive than work on the car.....

     The hobby is made up of many types. Some need a project to be
     working on. Once they finish a car, it's time to do another.
     Their time is spent in the garage and working on the cars is a
     kind of therapy for them. It's not that they DON'T or CAN'T drive
     the cars, just that they derive most of their enjoyment out of
     making the cars "right", whatever that means to them. ..

     At the other extreme are those who never turn a wrench, and are
     willing to pay someone else to do all their work. They care not
     to even know how to work on the cars at all, they just want them
     either to drive, or as show pieces, as is their wont. ..

     I fall between the two extremes, but closer to the latter. I have
     been learning how to work on them, and haven't been afraid to do
     some of the "minor" work on the cars, BUT... I hate getting into
     a project and not having the parts right there. I never know
     what's going to go wrong and hate having to deal with a crisis. I
     work to make money to pay people to do the things that I either
     can't do, or don't want to do. This project falls into the latter
     category. I could, but just don't feel like it. I'm a hell of
     check book mechanic.

     On the other hand, I have gained enough
     knowledge to do some roadside repairs to get me home in most
     cases, but carry a AAA card and a cell phone as insurance.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 "There's someone in my head, but its not me." -Pink Floyd 

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 24 07:59:40 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:59:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120724135942.B9206F4403C@mx2.netinteraction.com>

At 05:59 PM 7/23/2012, Trevor Jessie wrote:
>I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
>an update.
++++++++++++++++

Gift Sprite has donated some bits. Notably engine and trans to former 
employee putting together a 71 I gave him.  Grille going on Soave's 
White Trash Too.  Voltage regulator going into my Mini ;-(    Some 
parts will go into the upside-down 65. Green BE sold/donated and 
being refurbished nicely.

  The chassis is chit.

Working slowly on Land Rovers, Karmann Ghia, 31 Minor and the shed 
insulation. No rain, no lawn, no lawn-care;-)  Canoeing instead.

Peter C 

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 08:28:24 2012
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 07:28:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1343140104.32780.YahooMailNeo@web39301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bobbie MG.  1972 round wheel arch body. Almost rust free body, newish top,
brakes, many parts replaced.  1275 motor, new carbs, good cyl pressure,
electronic ign., ran great, then main bearing spun.  That was about the time I
started getting sick with Lymphoma.  I have not worked on the car since
October 2005.  sitting on stands in the garage.  She has been for sale and
will be for sale as I have other health issues now, plus a Victorian era house
to sell in Harriman Tn.  I lurk the posts everyday and toss in a comment or
fix suggestion every now and then.  
Thanks, Lon 
________________________________
From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:59 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

I see many names and I
know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
an update.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jul 24 10:32:08 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:32:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <20120724135942.B9206F4403C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<20120724135942.B9206F4403C@mx2.netinteraction.com>
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Came in to some cash and rather than fix the roof, redo the kitchen, install
new floor everywhere I bought a Ferrari 328.  Replaced the timing belts on it
and drive it some..  the A/C doesn't work so I can't drive it all the time.
The E-Type is on the list for body panel repair but I need to generate some
space in my shop for some long term downtime first, the Bugeye is waiting for
me to install the re-worked carbs (Tonight if it cools down a bit) and I"m
salivating over a steal deal on a new SAAB..  and the SAAB Owner's convention
is in two weeks in Iowa City, Iowa..

Lester



On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

> At 05:59 PM 7/23/2012, Trevor Jessie wrote:
>> I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's
have
>> an update.
> ++++++++++++++++
>
> Gift Sprite has donated some bits. Notably engine and trans to former
employee putting together a 71 I gave him.  Grille going on Soave's White
Trash Too.  Voltage regulator going into my Mini ;-(    Some parts will go
into the upside-down 65. Green BE sold/donated and being refurbished nicely.
>
> The chassis is chit.
>
> Working slowly on Land Rovers, Karmann Ghia, 31 Minor and the shed
insulation. No rain, no lawn, no lawn-care;-)  Canoeing instead.
>
> Peter C ------------------------
>
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 10:44:03 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:44:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ready to deal -daughter wedding yada...
Message-ID: <CABWjhcK10H6aWsVnY-QJBmRK7knhCCGkJF91TKL9LNhCvTzjKw@mail.gmail.com>

For anyone with a Desert Eagle Mk VII 44mag who would like to have the 14"
barrel and a very nice Burris scope.
I've decided I can split up the package.
Just to set this up the last 14" DE barrel I saw was going for $675.
I'd like $975 for the barrel, scope, rings and mount.
These are NLA - I know Spridget people know the meaning of that.
The scope and barrel are in new condition, and the scope mount and rings
were also bought new.
This outfit has been used once to sight in only. (Wow - that's all I can
say - Wow!)
I have pictures and video for interested parties - just ask.
Sorry about the scanty Spridget content here, I received the (expected)
declined message from the bank this morning so I'm looking to deal.
No bites for the Sprite yet, I will take some better pictures and add "OBO"
to my ad.

Rick (demolitions R us) Bastedo


On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have put an ad on Craigslist.
> Contact me for special pricing for Sprite Midget club USA members :)
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3156558830.html
>
> Rick ($ amount that would be nice...) Bastedo

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 10:58:58 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:58:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <CABWjhc+S3_+J+eYrj-U7VmTkyyarOh-5hU3jeH_11TKde5dyew@mail.gmail.com>

I've got the green frogeye-Midget
Datsun 1500 and dogleg 5 speed, late Midget 3.7 diff.
HIF4 SU's on it run a tad rich but that's better than lean
Electric fan. Getting 27MPG consistently and anyone who has been driving
with me knows I don't 'take it easy'.
Miata seats, heated for our Northwest mornings.
Go fast jellybean mags with Ansen Sprint hub caps (they are shiny)
175/70 R13 General Altimax RT tires
Trunk lid off a 61 Midget because I like the chrome four piece MG Midget
emblems
Early tail lights, because round looks better IMHO
Custom fiberglass fillers under the tail lights
No bumpers
I drive it every day, and am always having to stop and answer all the
questions - usually guys between the ages of 10 - 100 wanting to know "what
is it?"

Red '64 MK2 Sprite
948 Bugeye motor with 4 speed trans
Hydraulic lines all replaced with aircraft hydraulics (former owner worked
at Boeing)
Nice interior, flashy red seat belts with period style hardware
Black seats redone with gear from AH Spares
New black carpeting
Nice heavy gauge AMCO top
NOS side curtains

'73 RWA tub
Waiting for Peter to build a car for himself, I'll help of course

'59 Bugeye tub
Waiting for me to get off my butt and get busy with it!!

Approximately 2 to 3 tons of Spridget parts including a MK1 Midget parts car
All or most will hopefully be part of one of the new cars we will put
together

Rick (spridgety bits) Bastedo

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
an update.

I'll start:
I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
 It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
it up and sell it on.

Anyone else like to do a status update?

-Trevor

From edwd at ti.com  Tue Jul 24 11:15:43 2012
From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3E3191E5@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>

Dave in Kent, Ohio wrote, "and Montana Bob" when referring to what was
forgotten as topics that kept the list lit up.  Thanks Dave, that made me
chortle my lunch down the front of my shirt.  I had forgotten all about "Bob"
but now I remember what a character he was, how short-lived was his 'visit'
and what short work y'all made of him.  Dang, that seems a long time ago...
It did teach me a lot about net etiquette though.

Ed Fisher
Dallas, Tx

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 11:46:34 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:46:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhc+S3_+J+eYrj-U7VmTkyyarOh-5hU3jeH_11TKde5dyew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhc+S3_+J+eYrj-U7VmTkyyarOh-5hU3jeH_11TKde5dyew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78xPNJC62vxYTucpyPDSYiC7dB9wETUz1uPK+P=sZ2Syg@mail.gmail.com>

Picked up a 2002 VW GTI that needs a trans.  Swapping auto to standard.

Picked up a 1998 VW Jetta TDI (Diesel) that needs a clutch for $500.

94 Miata badly needs a front end alignment but is otherwise drivable.

96 Miata (monster project) still waiting for axles to be purchased and
front sub frame mods.

Picked up a set of SSR Type Cs for $250 with good 225/50 15 Kumho 710s.

From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Jul 24 11:55:07 2012
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:55:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP4nPcxnYqHbmLGVhN6bHbofjq5sRzHqPequ++vpPGfPQg@mail.gmail.com>

1960 BE, original drive train.  The PO had started a restoration which I
finished.  The engine runs great.  To bad the clutch is shot.  I think I
drove it maybe 40 miles or so.  I need to pull the engine but got involved
with restoring an old lathe, then a mill, then a swimming pool, now some
stone walls need to be built.  And I've been thinking I should buy a cherry
picker for the engine pull and also to move the mill and lathe around.  But
for some reason, I just can't make myself buy what is inevitably going to
be a Chinese piece of shit.  So it waits....

Heard

From johnsfolly at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 12:14:21 2012
From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:14:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <CABFJSR3OcENHkcNNTyjO1YhSmX3i_KRg1eWKXAsSVqrT2F7S+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Trevor!  Hot down there in Kain-tuck?

After last year's Midget 50th at Elkhart Lake, I managed to melt #4 piston
yet again at the Grattan Vintage Races last August.
Motor went back in about 3 weeks ago and last weekend I ran the Pittsburgh
Vintage GP through Schenley Park. What an AMAZING course. With all of the
curbs, stone walls, ravines, zero run-off, drainage sewers with hay bales
stuffed in them, and Park Dept. road patching, this track took some SERIOUS
study to get into the old noggin.  Seems like each outing I was taking 1-2
seconds off of my previous time. Sunday had a great "All-MG" race and the
feature which had a load of Spridgets running. Fastest car was --get
ready-- a Fiat (500) Abarth 1000TC.

Motor didn't melt. The red and white "Works Midget" and I will be at
Waterford Hills this weekend, assisted by the able Rick Fisk. And if THAST
doesn't do me in, then it's Grattan in August for the east coast MG Vintage
Racers Focus Event of 2012. That should be a great place for some fast
Midgets, several B-V8's, and a turn-out of pre-war cars.

So, I still have the Midget. The yellow bugeye Frankensprite was sold to
Virginia 2 years ago and recently sold again, I understand. The '53 MGTD
completed a 1700-mile camping trip through West Virginia a few weeks ago
and ran flawlessly although we got held up for 3 days when the storm
knocked out all power and we couldn't get gasoline. A tree also fell over
our tent and crushed everything while we were trying to put up the top. I
guess the wife brings me good luck.

Good summer, so far!
Cheers,
JohnD
-- 
*Driving in the past lane!*
JohnsfollyVintageRacing <http://www.johnsfolly.webs.com>


Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:59:59 -0400
From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID:
        <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
an update.

I'll start:
I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
 It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
it up and sell it on.

Anyone else like to do a status update?

-Trevor

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 12:20:28 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:20:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP4nPcxnYqHbmLGVhN6bHbofjq5sRzHqPequ++vpPGfPQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGe=UP4nPcxnYqHbmLGVhN6bHbofjq5sRzHqPequ++vpPGfPQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93EC672B-C593-40A5-A9A9-CF0AD597B564@gmail.com>

I got a decent "POS" engine crane from Craigslist for $50.  If you are patient
you can find a decent deal on one.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 12:23:09 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:23:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1343154189.44692.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

'59 Bugeye - 998 motor with Stage V mods from the Special Tuning worksheet. 
Lots of original factory Special Tuning pieces like adjustable rear shocks,
competition front shocks, sway bar, LCB header, etc, etc.  Restoration
complete in 1986.  It could do with a respray to be top notch, but the big
Healey needs to get finished off.

'63 Healey 3000 BJ7 - Nasty Boy - see my
sig.

Cats - one - spending the summer heat in his furry black suit.  If he
had balls, he'd have sweated them off by now

Guns - got 'em.  


Zappa - 
Been listening to Wes Montgomery lately

Harbor Freight -  They opened one
near me last year.  have to admit I go in there and buy stuff.  Some of it is
just good enough for what I need.  I don't need the stuff from the Strap-on
guy.  OK, the electronic flyswatter was a bust, but my expectations weren't
that high.  


Home Defect -  Go there, too, but only because my wife makes
me.

Montana Bob - Mark should put together a collection of his rants and sell
them as a fundraiser.

Frank - his thoughts on a lot of these topics kept the
list from becoming boring.


 
Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:
http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo


________________________________
 From: Trevor
Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:59 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has
been "quiet"
 
I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars,
but let's have
an update.

I'll start:
I have a 1958 Bugeye with a
supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
It is driveable, but needs
body/paint/interior.
I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint
and a 5 speed, but
needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected
turbo.
I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll
patch
it up and sell it on.

Anyone else like to do a status update?

-Trevor
------------------------

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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 12:26:19 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:26:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] melting no 4 piston Re: Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <1d14a.1e518013.3d4042cb@aol.com>

You don't have the coolant pipe at the back of the head blocked off do  you?
 
 
In a message dated 24/07/2012 19:20:13 GMT Daylight Time,  
johnsfolly at gmail.com writes:

I  managed to melt #4 piston
yet again at the Grattan Vintage Races last  August.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 12:40:14 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:40:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <1d977.4254f1ed.3d40460e@aol.com>

69 Sprite modified.  I need to start to drive more slowly again as  I've 
regularly found myself doing 90+ (maybe 95+) through sweeping bends.
 
Tom Colby will be making a replacement Panhard rod tower for the car so  
when it arrives I can removed the old one along with the piece of tubing that  
extended the tower to get the level close to right.
 
The anti-tramp bar fabrication project is hold pending calculations and  
enthusiasm.
 
The raised front spring hanger fabrication project is on hold because it  
was combined with the anti-tramp bar brackets.
 
The 4 clock dash project is for a spare dash that I'm slowing making and  
might see a welder this week.
 
I need to have a think about the axle Panhard pickup now that I've put the  
front spring hanger brackets on hold.
 
The lightened door striker project needs some fresh enthusiasm though once  
the pair of strikers I have, are finished I've enough to consider having a  
batch coated.
 
The front conifers in the garden are now close to being cut down to  the 
height I want them to be at.  
 
I might gloss some paint around the house this week if I can work up the  
enthusiasm - it's nice and hot so ideal to do it. 
 
I've ordered a piece of nylon bar so I can make the bit for the steering  
column horn connection that I bust.  I'll probably have to jury rig a  
temporary horn switch as I need to drive the car on Thursday.
 
I need to replace a couple of push rods that chafed on the Pierce head and  
once I have them I'll also reset the tappets.
 
I have a nicer alloy Monza fuel cap than the one on the car but it needs a  
blob of alloy welding on the inside following drilling and tapping for the 
thing  that Monza caps used with an internal vented cap have.  This might 
get done  by the end of the year.
 
I have to replace a 90 degree Goodridge hose end with a 120 degree end on  
the inlet manifold to servo pipe just to make it look neater.  This is  
waiting funds (yep I'm really that poor) but ought to be this year.
 
I'm waiting for a new gear lever to be made that will be tapped UNC rather  
than metric so I can fit my bakelite (looking) 5 speed gear knob that has 
the  correct gate pattern on it for the Ford based 5 speed in my car.
 
Pictures on request for some of this stuff.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
 
In a message dated 24/07/2012 19:23:21 GMT Daylight Time,  
healeyrick at yahoo.com writes:

Montana  Bob - Mark should put together a collection of his rants and sell
them as a  fundraiser.

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 13:06:01 2012
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:06:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <5BF7897D-288A-45BA-AA5E-19372090CC5B@comcast.net>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
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	<5BF7897D-288A-45BA-AA5E-19372090CC5B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEJCLxkqS-A4+Z76haZUCsJb8xMvPqHFdF=Xf37pa-Ksdw@mail.gmail.com>

Lester,


My take. .  one of my favorite Ferrari's. .  love the look of the 328.

I hear that you have to pull the engine to change to belts on some (or all)
Ferrari's?

Is this the case with the 328?

Also, what did Ferrari do to meet smog requirements with your car?  It
seems that in meeting smog requirements Ferrari's still maintained their
horsepower rating (unlike the Vettes and other cars which had their HP
dropped down in that era)?

I have always been curious about them. . not knowing much at all regarding
how they were built during that era as well as things I have heard about
changing the timing belts.

Congratulations on your purchase!

Kirk

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>wrote:

> Came in to some cash and rather than fix the roof, redo the kitchen,
> install
> new floor everywhere I bought a Ferrari 328.  Replaced the timing belts on
> it
> and drive it some..  the A/C doesn't work so I can't drive it all the time.
> The E-Type is on the list for body panel repair but I need to generate some
> space in my shop for some long term downtime first, the Bugeye is waiting
> for
> me to install the re-worked carbs (Tonight if it cools down a bit) and I"m
> salivating over a steal deal on a new SAAB..  and the SAAB Owner's
> convention
> is in two weeks in Iowa City, Iowa..
>
> Lester
>
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>
> > At 05:59 PM 7/23/2012, Trevor Jessie wrote:
> >> I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's
> have
> >> an update.
> > ++++++++++++++++
> >
> > Gift Sprite has donated some bits. Notably engine and trans to former
> employee putting together a 71 I gave him.  Grille going on Soave's White
> Trash Too.  Voltage regulator going into my Mini ;-(    Some parts will go
> into the upside-down 65. Green BE sold/donated and being refurbished
> nicely.
> >
> > The chassis is chit.
> >
> > Working slowly on Land Rovers, Karmann Ghia, 31 Minor and the shed
> insulation. No rain, no lawn, no lawn-care;-)  Canoeing instead.
> >
> > Peter C ------------------------
> >
> > spridgets at autox.team.net
> >
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Jul 24 12:56:52 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:56:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
In-Reply-To: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3E3191E5@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>
References: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3E3191E5@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>
Message-ID: <BF63C9B0-266F-40F0-9966-EC7A503CCDA2@chartermi.net>

Montana Bob's famous "Stop the Insanity" goodbye post was in Feb. 1999.  Some
of us must be getting old.  LOL

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:15 PM, "Fisher, Ed" <edwd at ti.com> wrote:

> Dave in Kent, Ohio wrote, "and Montana Bob" when referring to what was
> forgotten as topics that kept the list lit up.  Thanks Dave, that made me
> chortle my lunch down the front of my shirt.  I had forgotten all about
"Bob"
> but now I remember what a character he was, how short-lived was his 'visit'
> and what short work y'all made of him.  Dang, that seems a long time ago...
> It did teach me a lot about net etiquette though.
>
> Ed Fisher
> Dallas, Tx
> ------------------------

From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 13:52:14 2012
From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:52:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CABFJSR3OcENHkcNNTyjO1YhSmX3i_KRg1eWKXAsSVqrT2F7S+A@mail.gmail.com>
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JohnD, Will be at Waterford this weekend with son and his '59 BE 948.  Blue 
with yellow numbers  #9 I think.
Jeff Kelly

-----Original Message----- 
From: JohnD
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:14 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

Hi Trevor!  Hot down there in Kain-tuck?

After last year's Midget 50th at Elkhart Lake, I managed to melt #4 piston
yet again at the Grattan Vintage Races last August.
Motor went back in about 3 weeks ago and last weekend I ran the Pittsburgh
Vintage GP through Schenley Park. What an AMAZING course. With all of the
curbs, stone walls, ravines, zero run-off, drainage sewers with hay bales
stuffed in them, and Park Dept. road patching, this track took some SERIOUS
study to get into the old noggin.  Seems like each outing I was taking 1-2
seconds off of my previous time. Sunday had a great "All-MG" race and the
feature which had a load of Spridgets running. Fastest car was --get
ready-- a Fiat (500) Abarth 1000TC.

Motor didn't melt. The red and white "Works Midget" and I will be at
Waterford Hills this weekend, assisted by the able Rick Fisk. And if THAST
doesn't do me in, then it's Grattan in August for the east coast MG Vintage
Racers Focus Event of 2012. That should be a great place for some fast
Midgets, several B-V8's, and a turn-out of pre-war cars.

So, I still have the Midget. The yellow bugeye Frankensprite was sold to
Virginia 2 years ago and recently sold again, I understand. The '53 MGTD
completed a 1700-mile camping trip through West Virginia a few weeks ago
and ran flawlessly although we got held up for 3 days when the storm
knocked out all power and we couldn't get gasoline. A tree also fell over
our tent and crushed everything while we were trying to put up the top. I
guess the wife brings me good luck.

Good summer, so far!
Cheers,
JohnD
-- 
*Driving in the past lane!*
JohnsfollyVintageRacing <http://www.johnsfolly.webs.com>


Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:59:59 -0400
From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID:
        <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
an update.

I'll start:
I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
it up and sell it on.

Anyone else like to do a status update?

-Trevor
------------------------

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 13:56:57 2012
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:56:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
In-Reply-To: <BF63C9B0-266F-40F0-9966-EC7A503CCDA2@chartermi.net>
References: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3E3191E5@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>
	<BF63C9B0-266F-40F0-9966-EC7A503CCDA2@chartermi.net>
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That was Gift Sprite 1, when i moved here. You guys were gonna toss a
dismantled Bugeye into my new garage for my housewarming gift. I found out by
accident. You guys restored my faith in humanity.

Ron Soave

On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> Montana Bob's famous "Stop the Insanity" goodbye post was in Feb. 1999.
Some
> of us must be getting old.  LOL
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:15 PM, "Fisher, Ed" <edwd at ti.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave in Kent, Ohio wrote, "and Montana Bob" when referring to what was
>> forgotten as topics that kept the list lit up.  Thanks Dave, that made me
>> chortle my lunch down the front of my shirt.  I had forgotten all about
> "Bob"
>> but now I remember what a character he was, how short-lived was his
'visit'
>> and what short work y'all made of him.  Dang, that seems a long time
ago...
>> It did teach me a lot about net etiquette though.
>>
>> Ed Fisher
>> Dallas, Tx
>> ------------------------
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 13:59:14 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (Derf)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:59:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
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	<BF63C9B0-266F-40F0-9966-EC7A503CCDA2@chartermi.net>
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Many learned how to use their delete key at that time.




On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> Montana Bob's famous "Stop the Insanity" goodbye post was in Feb. 1999.
Some
> of us must be getting old.  LOL
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:15 PM, "Fisher, Ed" <edwd at ti.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave in Kent, Ohio wrote, "and Montana Bob" when referring to what was
>> forgotten as topics that kept the list lit up.  Thanks Dave, that made me
>> chortle my lunch down the front of my shirt.  I had forgotten all about
> "Bob"
>> but now I remember what a character he was, how short-lived was his
'visit'
>> and what short work y'all made of him.  Dang, that seems a long time
ago...
>> It did teach me a lot about net etiquette though.
>>
>> Ed Fisher
>> Dallas, Tx
>> ------------------------
> ------------------------
>
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 14:12:56 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:12:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
Message-ID: <432e1.f0d7303.3d405bc8@aol.com>

But none their CAPS LOCK!
 
 
In a message dated 24/07/2012 20:59:26 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com 
 writes:

Many  learned how to use their delete key at that  time.

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 24 14:25:11 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:25:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
In-Reply-To: <3B56A78C-5E7C-4D8E-B37E-5F9EC7CBCF24@yahoo.com>
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	<3B56A78C-5E7C-4D8E-B37E-5F9EC7CBCF24@yahoo.com>
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... and then there were 2......

At 02:56 PM 7/24/2012, Ron Soave wrote:
>That was Gift Sprite 1, when i moved here. You guys were gonna toss a
>dismantled Bugeye into my new garage for my housewarming gift. I found out by
>accident. You guys restored my faith in humanity.
>
>Ron Soave

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 14:30:40 2012
From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:30:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
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	<20120724202511.8820BF4401E@mx2.netinteraction.com>
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""Hello, Peter? Let's drive all night to Frank's. No reason."

Ron
Sent from my personal hovercraft

On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> ... and then there were 2......
>
> At 02:56 PM 7/24/2012, Ron Soave wrote:
>> That was Gift Sprite 1, when i moved here. You guys were gonna toss a
>> dismantled Bugeye into my new garage for my housewarming gift. I found out
by
>> accident. You guys restored my faith in humanity.
>>
>> Ron Soave
> ------------------------
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 14:35:45 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:35:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
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I miss Frank.

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 24 14:36:18 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:36:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
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Not quite what I meant.....


At 03:30 PM 7/24/2012, soavero at yahoo.com wrote:
>""Hello, Peter? Let's drive all night to Frank's. No reason."
>
>Ron
>Sent from my personal hovercraft
>
>On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> > ... and then there were 2......
> >
> > At 02:56 PM 7/24/2012, Ron Soave wrote:
> >> That was Gift Sprite 1, when i moved here. You guys were gonna toss a
> >> dismantled Bugeye into my new garage for my housewarming gift. I 
> found out by
> >> accident. You guys restored my faith in humanity.
> >>
> >> Ron Soave
> > ------------------------
> >
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From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jul 24 15:12:17 2012
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:12:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
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We all do

On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:35 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I miss Frank.
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From dxcamp at bsink.com  Tue Jul 24 16:18:10 2012
From: dxcamp at bsink.com (David Camp)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:18:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
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	<BF63C9B0-266F-40F0-9966-EC7A503CCDA2@chartermi.net>
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1999? Wow - now I do feel old.

Dave in Kent


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:57 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote

Montana Bob's famous "Stop the Insanity" goodbye post was in Feb. 1999.
Some of us must be getting old.  LOL

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:15 PM, "Fisher, Ed" <edwd at ti.com> wrote:

> Dave in Kent, Ohio wrote, "and Montana Bob" when referring to what was 
> forgotten as topics that kept the list lit up.  Thanks Dave, that made 
> me chortle my lunch down the front of my shirt.  I had forgotten all 
> about
"Bob"
> but now I remember what a character he was, how short-lived was his
'visit'
> and what short work y'all made of him.  Dang, that seems a long time
ago...
> It did teach me a lot about net etiquette though.
>
> Ed Fisher
> Dallas, Tx
> ------------------------
------------------------

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From dxcamp at bsink.com  Tue Jul 24 16:40:58 2012
From: dxcamp at bsink.com (David Camp)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:40:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <6EFA830E-B50C-4A6F-8036-FB814A84DDE3@chartermi.net>
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1960 Bugeye - AN5L38924, 1275 with a 45DCOE (courtesy of Mr. Soave - thanks
again Ron - I love it). Front disk brakes courtesy of the late, great Eric
Jones). Minilite replicas and front tilt bonnet. The best thing I did to it
was by far the front tilt kit. I believe I still have scars on the back of
my head from bashing it on the underside of the bonnet.
I just sold our 79 Midget last year because we hardly ever drove it. I sold
it to a very large cop - he had to remove his shoes to drive it. I hope
someday he doesn't return to shoot me.

Dave in Kent, OH



On Jul 23, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's 
> have an update.
>
> I'll start:
> I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
> It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
> I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, 
> but needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
> I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll 
> patch it up and sell it on.
>
> Anyone else like to do a status update?
>
> -Trevor
> ------------------------
------------------------

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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jul 24 15:44:31 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:44:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cherry Picker
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Message-ID: <E5B9329C99ED4DECBCD151181E9F9E97@spider>

Couldn't you make a Cherry Picker if you have a mill and lathe: do you weld?
...bill in oregon
==============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

1960 BE, original drive train.  The PO had started a restoration which I
finished.  The engine runs great.  To bad the clutch is shot.  I think I
drove it maybe 40 miles or so.  I need to pull the engine but got involved
with restoring an old lathe, then a mill, then a swimming pool, now some
stone walls need to be built.  And I've been thinking I should buy a cherry
picker for the engine pull and also to move the mill and lathe around.  But
for some reason, I just can't make myself buy what is inevitably going to
be a Chinese piece of shit.  So it waits....

Heard
------------------------

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 24 15:59:43 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:59:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>

Good idea Trevor.

We have a 1959 Leaf Green Bugeye, which we've owned since 1977, about as 
standard as you can get, right down to the 520-13 Dunlop Gold Seal bias 
ply tires (which they never had and if someone can find a set of Dunlop 
Fort in that size let me know).  I have 2/3 of the rubber floor and 
tunnel mat, just need the drivers side. Original drive train and 
probably electrical bits...at least the dates match on the dynamo, coil, 
and control box(which is scary). As it is a driver and not a concours 
show car I put on stainless fuel and brake lines.

We also have a 1959 MGA 1500 O.E.W. roadster with wire wheels. After 25 
years of ownership she's getting new carpeting.  Been having electrical 
problems which I shall relate in another email.

And then we have "Winston", the 2005 bmw MINI.

And the 2008 Volvo S60

And the 2006 Ford Escape

Still room for one more...a TC or 1967 Alfa GTV or .......

Dave W.



On 7/23/2012 5:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote:
> I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
> an update.
>
> I'll start:
> I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
>   It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
> I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
> needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
> I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
> it up and sell it on.
>
> Anyone else like to do a status update?
>
> -Trevor

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 16:19:16 2012
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:19:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
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	<500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
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OK,

71 Midget (Red) - My driver
74 Midget (About to change color) Kathy's driver
74 Bugeye nosed Midget (Yellow) Son's driver
73/74 Midget Current Project
69 Midget Next project
66 Midget with a Bugeye nose (about ready to be gifted)
74 Midget (rolling shell)
95 Grand Cherokee
91 Jetta
95 F150
93 Chevy G20 conversion van

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Good idea Trevor.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 16:38:57 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:38:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cherry Picker
In-Reply-To: <E5B9329C99ED4DECBCD151181E9F9E97@spider>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGe=UP4nPcxnYqHbmLGVhN6bHbofjq5sRzHqPequ++vpPGfPQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<E5B9329C99ED4DECBCD151181E9F9E97@spider>
Message-ID: <1343169537.91572.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Gee guys, we're talking a 4 cyl Spridget motor here.  It ain't no Mopar
elephant Hemi or 16 cyl Packard motor.  Back in the day (mandatory old guy
speak here)  we'd get two guys on either side of a pipe passed through a chain
to pluck one of them out.  I don't care what piece of Horrible Freight cherry
picker made over dung-fired Chinese forges (mandatory tip-o'-the-hat to Frank)
you have, it's probably going to take that weight without a problem.  If you
want to put on your big-boy pants, try dangling a Ford V8 and tranny over the
aluminum shroud of a big Healey: 
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j222/healeyrick/?action=view&current=IMG_01
52.jpg  I bought my picker from some guy that was selling them out of a
storage facility.  Pretty sure it was sourced "offshore"  but it's yanked a
lot of LBC motors and trannys.  If you wait for a U.S made picker, you're
going to have a long wait.  I'm just an old New England Swamp Yankee
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_Yankee  that was pulling motors with a
chainfall slung over a tree branch or three steel pipes lashed together.  Man
up.

 
Rick


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________________________________
 From: "corvallis at peoplepc.com"
<corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24,
2012 5:44 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Cherry Picker
 
Couldn't you make a Cherry
Picker if you have a mill and lathe: do you weld?
...bill in oregon
==============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon
Sent:
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since
the list has been "quiet"

1960 BE, original drive train.  The PO had started
a restoration which I
finished.  The engine runs great.  To bad the clutch is
shot.  I think I
drove it maybe 40 miles or so.  I need to pull the engine but
got involved
with restoring an old lathe, then a mill, then a swimming pool,
now some
stone walls need to be built.  And I've been thinking I should buy a
cherry
picker for the engine pull and also to move the mill and lathe around. 
But
for some reason, I just can't make myself buy what is inevitably going to
be a Chinese piece of shit.  So it waits....

Heard
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Jul 24 17:21:29 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:21:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cherry Picker
In-Reply-To: <1343169537.91572.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGe=UP4nPcxnYqHbmLGVhN6bHbofjq5sRzHqPequ++vpPGfPQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<E5B9329C99ED4DECBCD151181E9F9E97@spider>
	<1343169537.91572.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EEEB5A8E-F3D3-41A8-A2F0-DBC0D6982A4C@chartermi.net>

"Back in the day" I pulled the 948 out of my Bugeye with nothing but strength
and stupidity.  :-)

Today picking up a bare head causes a groan.  We old.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard


On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:38 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gee guys, we're talking a 4 cyl Spridget motor here.  It ain't no Mopar
> elephant Hemi or 16 cyl Packard motor..............

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 17:25:31 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:25:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ready to deal -daughters wedding yada... yada...
Message-ID: <CABWjhc+BKZ2aP2qQaEd28nH4f1Ns9c_FQnOPWjV7efJ+hYBQgw@mail.gmail.com>

I have done more research and found completed sales of the 14" barrel alone
are in the $500 range.
The sale I saw earlier for $675 wasn't completed - that was just his asking
price.
If you happen to already own a MK VII Desert Eagle 44 here's a deal for you:

14" barrel with the correct rings (very important with the DE 44) and scope
mount and Burris 2x - 7x Ballistic Plex scope.
$750
No FFL required to ship as it's just parts.

I apologize to all who don't care to read about guns or gun parts, or cats
or Zappa or Montana Bob or beer or (what am I missing here?).
I need to raise the money, the wife has started freaking out since the
wedding is only a month away now.
The bathroom is all torn to hell and there are no windows in it any more
and the inner walls are gutted and the only operational device is the
toilet.

So - someone please do me a favor and take this off my hands.
Thanks.

Rick (feeling a bit more desperate today) Bastedo

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> For anyone with a Desert Eagle Mk VII 44mag who would like to have the 14"
> barrel and a very nice Burris scope.
> I've decided I can split up the package.
> Just to set this up the last 14" DE barrel I saw was going for $675.
> I'd like $975 for the barrel, scope, rings and mount.
> These are NLA - I know Spridget people know the meaning of that.
> The scope and barrel are in new condition, and the scope mount and rings
> were also bought new.
> This outfit has been used once to sight in only. (Wow - that's all I can
> say - Wow!)
> I have pictures and video for interested parties - just ask.
> Sorry about the scanty Spridget content here, I received the (expected)
> declined message from the bank this morning so I'm looking to deal.
> No bites for the Sprite yet, I will take some better pictures and add
> "OBO" to my ad.
>
> Rick (demolitions R us) Bastedo
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have put an ad on Craigslist.
>> Contact me for special pricing for Sprite Midget club USA members :)
>>
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3156558830.html
>>
>> Rick ($ amount that would be nice...) Bastedo

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Jul 24 18:05:22 2012
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 0:05:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
Message-ID: <20120725000522.WJTP4.57851.root@hrndva-web06-z02>

hi-

well, rather embarrassed, but I'm between Sprites at the moment.  I hit the point on my '66 after 6 or so years that I didn't want to put more into it, and decided to save up for a bugeye.  I kept all my choice spare parts and books for the next adventure.

Also part of that decision happened when a Z3 crossed my path for an unbelievable price, which will probably help the fund as well for the next one.

Happy to say though that prior to selling the '66, I had put on about a 1000 miles this year without using the AAA card.  

Chris

1999 BMW Z3
2000 BMW 528i Touring

From leavcast at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 18:22:20 2012
From: leavcast at gmail.com (George Castleberry)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:22:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com><500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
	<CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop>

stock 1959 Bugeye - weekend driver
1954 Austin Healey 100 - been in parts for longer than I prefer to mention
1973 GMC motorhome - weekend adventures (think the movie Stripes with Bill
Murray)

George Castleberry
Flagstaff, AZ
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kevin Valentine
  To: Spridgets
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"


  OK,

  71 Midget (Red) - My driver
  74 Midget (About to change color) Kathy's driver
  74 Bugeye nosed Midget (Yellow) Son's driver
  73/74 Midget Current Project
  69 Midget Next project
  66 Midget with a Bugeye nose (about ready to be gifted)
  74 Midget (rolling shell)
  95 Grand Cherokee
  91 Jetta
  95 F150
  93 Chevy G20 conversion van

  Kevin V.
  Tuscarora, Pa

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 24 18:25:52 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:25:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com><500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
	<CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop>
Message-ID: <1343175952.15914.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

"That's a fact, Jack!"

 
Rick


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________________________________
 From: George
Castleberry <leavcast at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list
has been "quiet"
 

1973 GMC motorhome - weekend adventures (think the movie
Stripes with Bill
Murray)

George Castleberry
Flagstaff, AZ
 
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Jul 24 18:51:28 2012
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:51:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8.1343152802.30770.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8.1343152802.30770.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <500F4310.1010101@comcast.net>

Heard Saxon wrote:
> And I've been thinking I should buy a cherry
> picker for the engine pull and also to move the mill and lathe around.  But
> for some reason, I just can't make myself buy what is inevitably going to
> be a Chinese piece of shit.  So it waits....

www.craigslist.org. You might find an older one still in great shape
for less than the new Chinese knockoff.

Like this (NFI):
<http://orlando.craigslist.org/tls/3157153261.html>

Is it Chinese? Who knows. But a phone call will tell you.

--
Kent
'56 100 BN-2

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Jul 24 18:58:50 2012
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:58:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com><500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net><CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com><0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop>
	<1343175952.15914.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0A594005968B4AF4B4ECA4C0E1440388@Dell9200>

I'm still here after about 15 years give or take a year or so.  I still have 
my 58 Bugeye, 1275 5 speed.  I have sold my other Brit cars, 53 Healey 100, 
66 TR4A IRS, and my silver Midget.  I bought a Roush P51 prototype, stock 
looking mustang with a 510 HP Roush forged R2300 blown engine.  I just get a 
kick out of scaring the hell out of the rice racers, they don't expect that 
nearly 70 year old man to leave them in the dust.  I have given up 
autocrossing as my back and reflexes just won't take it any more.  I miss 
Montana Bob, Cat Chocks, and Frank.

Mark
Nashville
58 Bugeye
09 Roush Mustang
New Hemi Jeep
06 VW GLI Turbo
Old Sail Boat
New Wife

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 19:08:22 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:08:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cherry Picker
In-Reply-To: <EEEB5A8E-F3D3-41A8-A2F0-DBC0D6982A4C@chartermi.net>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGe=UP4nPcxnYqHbmLGVhN6bHbofjq5sRzHqPequ++vpPGfPQg@mail.gmail.com>
	<E5B9329C99ED4DECBCD151181E9F9E97@spider>
	<1343169537.91572.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<EEEB5A8E-F3D3-41A8-A2F0-DBC0D6982A4C@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_-saSjcD2xSRbhC-3jy8hoCNoS0aiEUmB=r9vCax0Bug@mail.gmail.com>

You can't buy metal to make a device for less than the cost of a HF thing.
Add labor and the HF POS is quite a bargain.
Mine isn't HF but it is one of the red ones that are obviously made in
the same factory, or one exactly like it.

I've pulled Spridget motors "Frank" style, straddling the thing.  If
is much easier if you pull the head off first and if you have a stout
friend to hand it across to.

From gmajewski at wi.rr.com  Tue Jul 24 19:18:14 2012
From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:18:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] replacement top
Message-ID: <D1904EFB-DDFD-40B5-804E-BE7D9998F90A@wi.rr.com>

	Spridgets Group,

					Is there still a place one can get a replacement convertible top that
will
		actually fit?  Ordered one from VB and it is about 2-3 inches too small all
the way around.
		Managed to finally get it stretched to attach to the front window but the
cannot make a fit
		on the sides where the side curtains go. Would like to be able to use the
vehicle when the
		temps finally drop to make it manageable to drive. You help would be greatly
appreciated.


			Gary in SE Wisconsin      '59 BE

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jul 24 20:51:51 2012
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:51:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
In-Reply-To: <6C1F3B07-8429-46E0-8DDB-0687784310FC@ado13.com>
References: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3E3191E5@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>
	<BF63C9B0-266F-40F0-9966-EC7A503CCDA2@chartermi.net>
	<3B56A78C-5E7C-4D8E-B37E-5F9EC7CBCF24@yahoo.com>
	<20120724202511.8820BF4401E@mx2.netinteraction.com>
	<6606640A-FA4A-4CC8-A0BD-87DFCDF7D2BB@yahoo.com>
	<CAEAAx792BZH_Kq2BuZAg_61hQ=j1MwD7N4LNVzDX5_QuY0-VRA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6C1F3B07-8429-46E0-8DDB-0687784310FC@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <500F5F47.5070000@comcast.net>

On 7/24/2012 5:12 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> We all do
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:35 PM, derf<derf247 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> I miss Frank.
>> ------------------------
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Me too!!!!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet?

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 21:10:52 2012
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:10:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ready to deal -daughter wedding yada...
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcK10H6aWsVnY-QJBmRK7knhCCGkJF91TKL9LNhCvTzjKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcK10H6aWsVnY-QJBmRK7knhCCGkJF91TKL9LNhCvTzjKw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
I received the (expected) declined message from the bank this morning
so I'm looking to deal. No bites for the Sprite yet, I will take some
better pictures and add "OBO" to my ad.

Rick (demolitions R us) Bastedo
-----------------------------------------------

A word of warning here... The Shipwright's disease affects bathroom
remodeling too!!! I re-did our 1/2 bath last year. It started with the
28 yo faucet leaking more and more. Since that was coming out a new
sink would be good too. Since the old sink had a back and side splash
and the new one didn't a whole paint job was in order. Might as well
update the medicine cabinet too. The new one didn't have the lights on
top of it so a new lamp setup had to happen as well. Since the lamp
was up above the new cabinet I had to run a new power line up and out.
That meant cutting a hole, wiring it and filling the hole. At least it
didn't have to be perfect as the cabinet covered the entire hole area!
We had a wicker cabinet on another wall and decided to replace it with
a cabinet that matched the medicine cabinet.

I painted the walls as I prepared them. I even scraped the excess
paint/adhesive off the tile wall moulding that was there from when the
house was built in 1983. They look better now than ever! Take an
Exacto knife with a #10 blade and hunch over the moulding while
scraping hard enough to remove paint and tile adhesive without
scratching the tile... The sink and faucet went in first. Then the
cabinet to replace the wicker one. I had it ready to hang when I found
that the back of it was punctured by the fork lift prongs at Home
Defect... Pack it up and take it back. Luckily, they had another to
swap. Then I was able to hang the towel racks (new) on the bottom of
the new cabinet. (The original holes from the old towel racks and TP
holder had to be patched.) Then I hung the light and medicine cabinet.
The second shelf for the cabinet was fubar in the box so another trip
to Home Defect to swap it out...

When it was finally done it looked great! The wife doesn't care for
the color that I picked and has let me know about it on several
occasions! My defense is that it is the smallest room in the house
where she spends the least amount of time. Why should it bother her???
I handed her a brush and said make it any color you want... It is
still Phantom Blue!

Oh yeah, it took a while to get it finished!

Good luck,
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 24 21:41:28 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:41:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quiet list
Message-ID: <F6F2574B-7AAF-42CB-AA5D-B655BE4092C6@verizon.net>

Just the 62 mkII with low mileage.  Been in the garage for 3-4 years.  Sold
all the nos parts to Alan about the same time.  Very depressing.
George

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 24 21:48:03 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo stopped working
Message-ID: <A7DCDF857CBA4A7DA381EA5F0B0E0D2F@Thinkpad>

I noticed this past weekend that my speedometer stopped working.

 

I have not yet troubleshooted this but this is the Rivergate setup 

and I seem to recall that someone else on the list had run into a similar
situation.

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Tue Jul 24 23:25:34 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:25:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1343193934.47377.YahooMailClassic@web184502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

What, no Sprites!?!
Mike MacLean

--- On Tue, 7/24/12, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 10:19 PM

OK,

71 Midget (Red) - My driver
74 Midget (About to change color) Kathy's driver
74 Bugeye nosed Midget (Yellow) Son's driver
73/74 Midget Current Project
69 Midget Next project
66 Midget with a Bugeye nose (about ready to be gifted)
74 Midget (rolling shell)
95 Grand Cherokee
91 Jetta
95 F150
93 Chevy G20 conversion van

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Good idea Trevor.
------------------------

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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Wed Jul 25 03:11:40 2012
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:11:40 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] car update
Message-ID: <CAN4UhULHKFme1B8yzbQYGajjV1GkWnO_ticW3Y=pdgQj7qrWrQ@mail.gmail.com>

59 ex texas sprite awaiting restoration
72 rwa midget in long term resto
58 frogeye Lightweight used and abused regularly  - drum brakes & 948cc
engine
went to Silverstone for the worlds biggest classic car car club and race
meeting (try googling silverstone rockingand racing )
2004 MG ZR  daily driver - 105 bhp  - petty quick
1997 MG F  wifes topless  car
2004 MG TF  sons
1997 Suzuki Bandit used for fun and commuting on sunny days
1927 Sunbeam used regularly for vintage events
1928 sunbeam - long term resto

just inherited my dads old motorcycles - need somewhere to put them

Alan
Warwick UK  ( 1/2 mile from Donald healeys Cape Works RIP )
*Frank and Buster stayed with me when they visited Blighty*

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 04:36:20 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:36:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Trevor & List,
I've been busy with life/work and my 67 VW Westy Poptop Camper just
installing the interior and glass has been a huge PITA or I'd be
camping with her now.

Haven't driven my 62 Deep pink Sprite with 1275 motor all year because
I wanted to finish the bus first but perhaps I need to switch to the
Sprite...wink. I just found a local guy to stitch up my red Tonneau
Cover and I'm pleased with his work. Need to locate a local to me
media blaster for my ARE Libre wheels now that I finally got the lug
nuts. Will work on the Warwick hard top restoration once the bus is
out of the garage and find time to install the slave cylinder to drive
her again.

BMW airhead motorcycle will be back on the road now that the big white
elephant VW bus is now a driver.

Lin
New Jersey


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com> wrote:
> I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have
> an update.
>
> I'll start:
> I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed.
>  It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior.
> I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but
> needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo.
> I was just given a 1977 Midget.  If I can get the title clear, I'll patch
> it up and sell it on.
>
> Anyone else like to do a status update?
>
> -Trevor
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 04:37:50 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:37:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quiet list
In-Reply-To: <F6F2574B-7AAF-42CB-AA5D-B655BE4092C6@verizon.net>
References: <F6F2574B-7AAF-42CB-AA5D-B655BE4092C6@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVeU4KjLdPL+gB45pOOcJjjZ2pzfEFAaqE8siQbA=Ot_zQ@mail.gmail.com>

George why haven't you been driving the 62? Do you need some
encouragement.....wink.

Perhaps an OSHIT day is in order?
Lin

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:41 PM, George MARINOS <gmari2 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Just the 62 mkII with low mileage.  Been in the garage for 3-4 years.  Sold
> all the nos parts to Alan about the same time.  Very depressing.
> George
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 04:41:10 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:41:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
In-Reply-To: <500F5F47.5070000@comcast.net>
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: (

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> On 7/24/2012 5:12 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>>
>> We all do
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:35 PM, derf<derf247 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> I miss Frank.
>>> ------------------------
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> Me too!!!!
>
> --
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jul 25 04:45:07 2012
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 03:45:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo stopped working
In-Reply-To: <A7DCDF857CBA4A7DA381EA5F0B0E0D2F@Thinkpad>
References: <A7DCDF857CBA4A7DA381EA5F0B0E0D2F@Thinkpad>
Message-ID: <1015856424.20120725034507@pacifier.com>

Hello Dean,

     First test it to unplug the cable from the back of the speedo and
     take a drive. Feel if the end of the cable itself is turning.
     That will at least let you know if its the speedo itself, or the
     other direction to focus your efforts on...

     IF it's the cable, that can be repaired, in place. I'll have to
     have a look, at mine to remember, but it was a trick Frank C.
     passed along. If you have to REPLACE the cable, there's another
     trick .... but if you have to replace the gear drive, it'll most
     likely mean an engine pull to effect the repair....

     Good luck... I hope its just the speedo.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
   "I prefer unlined gloves," Tom deferred.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Jul 25 08:23:36 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:23:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re:  Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <20120725.082336.18122.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

OK my turn, it'll be a little long so be patient with me(I cna be  verbose).

'62 MKII, Signal Red, purchased in 1995 and trailered home thanks to Mark
Hanna (list member sometimes), stripped down and waited 15 years to get up the
gumption to try painting it. It now runs a 0.020 over 948 with NOS Powermax
flattops, 12G295 Head milled 0,080" and ported, aluminum flywheel mated to a
ribcase box, Isuzu starter, Stock HS2s, medium LCB, stainless muffler, racing
springs front and back (offsets in the back), adjustable radius rods, panhard
rod, Urethane bushings all around, Cobra seats, electronic SW tach, SW stage I
gauges,Nicely working speedometer (Thanks to Peter C's parts speedo) Cibie QI
lights-currently just needs some work on the fuel sender, otherwise runs
great.

'58 BE, rescued from beside a garage ~ 50mi south of me, the brakes were in
boxes under the downspout for 20 years, Paint was/is pretty bad afer sitting
out for 20 years in the CO sun and weather. Interior is mediocre, engine as
received and runs quite well (though I'm concerned about its longevity as it
did sit for 20 years!) as some of you know from Elkhart Lake. sports the
original H1's and exhaust with a glass pak, mech tach, smoothcase, racing
springs front and rear with Vega rims and Proxes RA1 radials.

The MKII was supposed to go to Elkhart Lake for it's 50th, but ate the trans
the Sunday prior to leaving. The BE took "Filthiest Engine Bay", "Most Road
Grime", "Rattiest Interior and Weather Equipment" and "Most likely to Score
Last at Concours" awards at the Elkhart Lake Car Show and also was driven to
second place in the 948 division of the Autocross by my eldest daughter in her
first autocross ever.

'83 Toyota Tercel Wagon
'83 Toyota Tercel Wagon-Parts car, but runs
'85 Toyota Tercel Wagon
'85 Toyota Tercel Wagon
'85 Toyota Tercel Wagon-needs some carb work
'93 GMC Safari Van
'96 F-350 Crew Cab W/8' Plow
'76 Dodge Motor home

Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

____________________________________________________________
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Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jul 25 08:38:52 2012
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:38:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <0A594005968B4AF4B4ECA4C0E1440388@Dell9200>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
	<CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop>
	<1343175952.15914.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<0A594005968B4AF4B4ECA4C0E1440388@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <C2DB471DB52D4EEABBB6CC697C76C07A@Home>

> I miss Montana Bob, Cat Chocks, and Frank.

What about all us young folk who never new Montana Bob?  What's that story?

Michael Rowe
(70 next month)

From biffjones at verizon.net  Wed Jul 25 09:44:25 2012
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:44:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com><500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net><CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com><0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop><1343175952.15914.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><0A594005968B4AF4B4ECA4C0E1440388@Dell9200>
	<C2DB471DB52D4EEABBB6CC697C76C07A@Home>
Message-ID: <0A580B842C2045E9BC51270490D1121A@dell1>

Michael,

Here is one of Montana Bob's posts to the spridgets list.  Go to the 
spridget archives and use montana bob as the search and you will get tons of 
Montana Bob hits.

      To:  spridgets at autox.team.net
      Subject:  Stop the insanity
      From:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
      Date:  Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:18:28 -0500
      Reply-to:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
      Sender:  owner-spridgets at autox.team.net

I have been reading this list, and the healey list, for the better part of
three years now.  I have finally had it.  Both lists, in my opinion, have
degenerated from a useful place to post questions and answers to some sort
of sophomore-ish yak factory.  On a daily basis I throw out 60+ messages of
basically crap.  Anytime ANYONE has a comment or question, the same group
of 15-20 people all chime in and basically say "Me Too!!"  And then the
fights start as to whether the fastener to be
used/purchased/begged/cajoled/stolen or loaned to someone should be turned
3/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 or 1 turn to tighten it, and then what color should it
be painted-silver, black, silver with black, black with silver, etc etc ad
naseum.  God, don't any of you have families to deal with or anything else
better to do(like go and work on your car)????  So, I'm logging off, never
to return.  I enjoy working on my car, and the list WAS a good source of
little known information, but I don't think it is anymore-as I said.  Too
bad.

eric.

From dxcamp at bsink.com  Wed Jul 25 11:10:55 2012
From: dxcamp at bsink.com (David Camp)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <0A580B842C2045E9BC51270490D1121A@dell1>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.
	com><500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net><CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLV
	BvXQMg@mail.gmail.com><0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop><134
	3175952.15914.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><0A594005968B4AF4B4
	ECA4C0E1440388@Dell9200><C2DB471DB52D4EEABBB6CC697C76C07A@Home>
	<0A580B842C2045E9BC51270490D1121A@dell1>
Message-ID: <009b01cd6a88$740dcb50$5c2961f0$@com>

As long as we're digging through the archives, do a search on "impaled" for
an amusing story about someone REALLY into sprites (or visa-versa).

Dave in Kent


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Biff Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:44 AM
To: Michael Rowe
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

Michael,

Here is one of Montana Bob's posts to the spridgets list.  Go to the 
spridget archives and use montana bob as the search and you will get tons of

Montana Bob hits.

      To:  spridgets at autox.team.net
      Subject:  Stop the insanity
      From:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
      Date:  Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:18:28 -0500
      Reply-to:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
      Sender:  owner-spridgets at autox.team.net

I have been reading this list, and the healey list, for the better part of
three years now.  I have finally had it.  Both lists, in my opinion, have
degenerated from a useful place to post questions and answers to some sort
of sophomore-ish yak factory.  On a daily basis I throw out 60+ messages of
basically crap.  Anytime ANYONE has a comment or question, the same group
of 15-20 people all chime in and basically say "Me Too!!"  And then the
fights start as to whether the fastener to be
used/purchased/begged/cajoled/stolen or loaned to someone should be turned
3/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 or 1 turn to tighten it, and then what color should it
be painted-silver, black, silver with black, black with silver, etc etc ad
naseum.  God, don't any of you have families to deal with or anything else
better to do(like go and work on your car)????  So, I'm logging off, never
to return.  I enjoy working on my car, and the list WAS a good source of
little known information, but I don't think it is anymore-as I said.  Too
bad.

eric.
------------------------

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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jul 25 10:16:32 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:16:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <0A580B842C2045E9BC51270490D1121A@dell1>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com><500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net><CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com><0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop><1343175952.15914.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><0A594005968B4AF4B4ECA4C0E1440388@Dell9200>
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Message-ID: <1894CE77-6EED-49A0-8E27-EBBF5B9EC2F6@comcast.net>

So... about those silver colored "Sprite" badges...  ;-)

Lester


On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Biff Jones wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Here is one of Montana Bob's posts to the spridgets list.  Go to the
spridget archives and use montana bob as the search and you will get tons of
Montana Bob hits.
>
>     To:  spridgets at autox.team.net
>     Subject:  Stop the insanity
>     From:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
>     Date:  Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:18:28 -0500
>     Reply-to:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
>     Sender:  owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> I have been reading this list, and the healey list, for the better part of
> three years now.  I have finally had it.  Both lists, in my opinion, have
> degenerated from a useful place to post questions and answers to some sort
> of sophomore-ish yak factory.  On a daily basis I throw out 60+ messages of
> basically crap.  Anytime ANYONE has a comment or question, the same group
> of 15-20 people all chime in and basically say "Me Too!!"  And then the
> fights start as to whether the fastener to be
> used/purchased/begged/cajoled/stolen or loaned to someone should be turned
> 3/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 or 1 turn to tighten it, and then what color should it
> be painted-silver, black, silver with black, black with silver, etc etc ad
> naseum.  God, don't any of you have families to deal with or anything else
> better to do(like go and work on your car)????  So, I'm logging off, never
> to return.  I enjoy working on my car, and the list WAS a good source of
> little known information, but I don't think it is anymore-as I said.  Too
> bad.
>
> eric.
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 10:32:07 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:32:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re:  Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <20120725.082336.18122.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
References: <20120725.082336.18122.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <50101F87.3050108@wi.net>

And a fine Bugeye it is too!  I would be in a quandary about restoring it!
DW

On 7/25/2012 9:23 AM, Mark Haynes wrote:
> .......

> '58 BE, rescued from beside a garage ~ 50mi south of me, the brakes were in
> boxes under the downspout for 20 years, Paint was/is pretty bad afer sitting
> out for 20 years in the CO sun and weather. Interior is mediocre, engine as
> received and runs quite well (though I'm concerned about its longevity as it
> did sit for 20 years!) as some of you know from Elkhart Lake. sports the
> original H1's and exhaust with a glass pak, mech tach, smoothcase, racing
> springs front and rear with Vega rims and Proxes RA1 radials.
>
> The MKII was supposed to go to Elkhart Lake for it's 50th, but ate the trans
> the Sunday prior to leaving. The BE took "Filthiest Engine Bay", "Most Road
> Grime", "Rattiest Interior and Weather Equipment" and "Most likely to Score
> Last at Concours" awards at the Elkhart Lake Car Show and also was driven to
> second place in the 948 division of the Autocross by my eldest daughter in her
> first autocross ever.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 10:40:57 2012
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:40:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVdibyWmtu4uSXLXz-8L+6XrtH_1+e3sgm53Hf4craZnJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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OK - I'll play.

1) 1960 Bugeye, BRG with tan hides. Needs hydraulics and a fuel pump at the moment, but is still a gorgeous car. It's got a 1275 with a Weber in it, and for several years was faster than my race car, which brings us to...my racecar:

2) 1958 Bugeye , early AN5L43XX. This is the famous over-achieving "White Trash". He sports a .040 over 1275 and full vintage race prep. He's at legal weight (by 4 pounds!) and has been gone through constantly over the years. He is one of the most reliable Sprite racers in our group, and with the exception of a practice day last year to change the gearbox, he really hasn't missed a lap in years. Unfortunately, he is essentially held together with the roll cage is in need of chassis restoration. He gives away 30 horsepower to other Sprites but consistently wins its class and has several overall wins against Porsches, Lotuses, Elvas...etc. He has done 2:50.8 lap times at Road America and 1:25.6 at Blackhawk Farms. He had the top 3 times of the day at the Road America autocross at the Midget 50th.

3) 1968 Sprite Racecar - "White Trash Too" - soon to be completed. It's gonna be gorgeous. It's got a lot of White Trash's running gear and suspension to remove variables. A killer motor is in process.

4) 1970 Midget - Bone stock, absolutely gorgeous, resides at Mom's in Florida. I drive it for 3 weeks a year, it always starts immediately and has never left me down.

5) If I got motivated, there are probably 3 or 4 others in boxes in the basement :)


Ron Soave
Roscoe, IL


"It only goes one way."
"Pay it forward."

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 10:47:35 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:47:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELECTRICAL SAGA Part 1 of 3
Message-ID: <50102327.10903@wi.net>

Hi all,

As the subject says I've divided this tome into 3 parts in deference to 
Mark's overworked servers.  The lists are pretty quiet and I thought I 
share a long running problem I had with our '59 MGA 1500.
This pertains to most LBC's so both of my lists get inundated.  Feel 
free to not read, hit delete or pass it on.   Try to guess what the 
problem is(was...I hope!)  Me, I'm celebrating!  Here goes:

Electrical Saga

PART 1

This may give the list something to think about when you're having 
similar problems (note: I said "when" not if ;-)).

The MGA is still running 2 six volt batteries and positive ground.I like 
it like that.I may make changes in future but for now we're OK...I 
think.One just has to realize that our cars operate(d) on a minimally 
adequate electrical charging system.It is a bit comforting to know that 
if the car has a generator(dynamo) and your battery is dead, the car 
runs off the generator (once it's started).If the car has an alternator 
and the battery gets low or a cable gets disconnected, the engine quits.

Anyway, MG has been sitting for a season and a half with a perplexing 
problem.A bit of condensed history here:

Control box cut out didn't cutout one day after a long drive. 15 minutes 
after shutting down my wife says, "is that smoke?"Bless her!By the time 
I pushed the car out of the garage (garage under house), pulled the 
top(hood) out of the way, uncovered the batteries, and disconnected the 
positive terminal the wiring loom was gone back to the control box 
(voltage regulator and cutout were toast).That was exciting.The car now 
has a battery disconnect switch behind the seat!

Installed new wiring harness, control box (2 new reprods from Holden), 
new armature and away we drove for...6 weeks.No-charge light glowing 
brightly.Now what?

Any guesses?

Dave W.
59 :{)
59MGA 1500
Burlington WI

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 10:50:25 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:50:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <20120725000522.WJTP4.57851.root@hrndva-web06-z02>
References: <20120725000522.WJTP4.57851.root@hrndva-web06-z02>
Message-ID: <501023D1.2090006@wi.net>

Oooo! I like Z3's!!!  Good on ya!
We'll find you a Bugeye soon....now that you're rolling in the dough!  ;-)

Dave W.


On 7/24/2012 7:05 PM, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:
> hi-
>
> well, rather embarrassed, but I'm between Sprites at the moment.  I hit the point on my '66 after 6 or so years that I didn't want to put more into it, and decided to save up for a bugeye.  I kept all my choice spare parts and books for the next adventure.
>
> Also part of that decision happened when a Z3 crossed my path for an unbelievable price, which will probably help the fund as well for the next one.
>
> Happy to say though that prior to selling the '66, I had put on about a 1000 miles this year without using the AAA card.
>
> Chris
>
> 1999 BMW Z3
> 2000 BMW 528i Touring

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 10:57:00 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:57:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <C22BC7FB-A6D1-4FC2-ACF7-0ECB0091DE63@me.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
	<C22BC7FB-A6D1-4FC2-ACF7-0ECB0091DE63@me.com>
Message-ID: <5010255C.3090609@wi.net>

Right you are Bob!  According to Horler, /Original Sprite and Midget/, 
page 41: Dunlop Gold Seals were standard 4 ply tubeless and Dunlop Fort 
6 ply were heavy duty.
Thanks for the correction!
Dave W.


On 7/24/2012 10:22 PM, Bob Kitterer wrote:
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:59 PM, dwoerpel wrote:
>
>> Good idea Trevor.
>>
>> We have a 1959 Leaf Green Bugeye, which we've owned since 1977, about 
>> as standard as you can get, right down to the 520-13 Dunlop Gold Seal 
>> bias ply tires (which they never had  .  . .
>
> Mine came with Dunlap Gold Seal tires - - - ???
>
> Bob and Dolores
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)  - now in the garage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - now in 
> the garage

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 11:09:00 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:09:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <009b01cd6a88$740dcb50$5c2961f0$@com>
References: <500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net>
	<0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop>
	<C2DB471DB52D4EEABBB6CC697C76C07A@Home>
	<0A580B842C2045E9BC51270490D1121A@dell1>
	<009b01cd6a88$740dcb50$5c2961f0$@com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r90qR4Bzz2_PmFOszW8kZG65jPKxh=M690YJivUH--Vjw@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to throw in a correction here, but if it is the story that "I" am
thinking about, the Sprite was into her.
IIRC, that was Buster's Sprite...

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM, David Camp <dxcamp at bsink.com> wrote:

> As long as we're digging through the archives, do a search on "impaled" for
> an amusing story about someone REALLY into sprites (or visa-versa).
>
> Dave in Kent
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Biff Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:44 AM
> To: Michael Rowe
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>
> Michael,
>
> Here is one of Montana Bob's posts to the spridgets list.  Go to the
> spridget archives and use montana bob as the search and you will get tons
> of
>
> Montana Bob hits.
>
>       To:  spridgets at autox.team.net
>       Subject:  Stop the insanity
>       From:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
>       Date:  Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:18:28 -0500
>       Reply-to:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
>       Sender:  owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> I have been reading this list, and the healey list, for the better part of
> three years now.  I have finally had it.  Both lists, in my opinion, have
> degenerated from a useful place to post questions and answers to some sort
> of sophomore-ish yak factory.  On a daily basis I throw out 60+ messages of
> basically crap.  Anytime ANYONE has a comment or question, the same group
> of 15-20 people all chime in and basically say "Me Too!!"  And then the
> fights start as to whether the fastener to be
> used/purchased/begged/cajoled/stolen or loaned to someone should be turned
> 3/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 or 1 turn to tighten it, and then what color should it
> be painted-silver, black, silver with black, black with silver, etc etc ad
> naseum.  God, don't any of you have families to deal with or anything else
> better to do(like go and work on your car)????  So, I'm logging off, never
> to return.  I enjoy working on my car, and the list WAS a good source of
> little known information, but I don't think it is anymore-as I said.  Too
> bad.
>
> eric.
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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>
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>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 25 12:30:49 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:30:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ELECTRICAL SAGA Part 1 of 3
In-Reply-To: <50102327.10903@wi.net>
References: <50102327.10903@wi.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP511CDCE17602C5E1E271DDB8C30@phx.gbl>

I had a different experience.  The battery in my Subaru died suddenly about a
half hour drive away from home.  After driving to my parents' 'home' and
checking up on them, i went back out the car and not even a click.  I got a
boost from CAA when their tow truck arrived and drove home.  Shut it down (
blocking the other cars.  Doh! ). Put it on a charger.  Had dinner, etc.
Barely started.  Drove it to buy a new battery.  ( left it locked and running
). And after installing the battery, all is well.  It did run on just the
alternator.

I had just replace the dual batteries in the Healey.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Opt6v_1.jpg

I think the Subaru was jealous.

No, I don't have a guess yet.

Robert
Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.

On 2012-07-25, at 12:47 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As the subject says I've divided this tome into 3 parts in deference to
> Mark's overworked servers.  The lists are pretty quiet and I thought I
> share a long running problem I had with our '59 MGA 1500.
> This pertains to most LBC's so both of my lists get inundated.  Feel
> free to not read, hit delete or pass it on.   Try to guess what the
> problem is(was...I hope!)  Me, I'm celebrating!  Here goes:
>
> Electrical Saga
>
> PART 1
>
> This may give the list something to think about when you're having
> similar problems (note: I said "when" not if ;-)).
>
> The MGA is still running 2 six volt batteries and positive ground.I like
> it like that.I may make changes in future but for now we're OK...I
> think.One just has to realize that our cars operate(d) on a minimally
> adequate electrical charging system.It is a bit comforting to know that
> if the car has a generator(dynamo) and your battery is dead, the car
> runs off the generator (once it's started).If the car has an alternator
> and the battery gets low or a cable gets disconnected, the engine quits.
>
> Anyway, MG has been sitting for a season and a half with a perplexing
> problem.A bit of condensed history here:
>
> Control box cut out didn't cutout one day after a long drive. 15 minutes
> after shutting down my wife says, "is that smoke?"Bless her!By the time
> I pushed the car out of the garage (garage under house), pulled the
> top(hood) out of the way, uncovered the batteries, and disconnected the
> positive terminal the wiring loom was gone back to the control box
> (voltage regulator and cutout were toast).That was exciting.The car now
> has a battery disconnect switch behind the seat!
>
> Installed new wiring harness, control box (2 new reprods from Holden),
> new armature and away we drove for...6 weeks.No-charge light glowing
> brightly.Now what?
>
> Any guesses?
>
> Dave W.
> 59 :{)
> 59MGA 1500
> Burlington WI
> ------------------------

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 12:38:53 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:38:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga Part 2 of 3
Message-ID: <50103D3D.5080002@wi.net>

PART 2

Long story short, if you're still with me, I suspected the 
generator.Took it to two different shops and saw that it was cranking 
out a 'massive' 17 volts.(not bad)With the generator checking out OK, I 
looked at the control box and the cutout points were gone...I mean 
burned away so thin you could hardly see any surface.OK, time to call 
Barney Gaylord (I had already emailed and downloaded everything 
pertinent from his web site: http://mgaguru.com) and he told me about 
the very "soft" points on the reprod control boxes.I had a second box 
and put that in and still no charge from the generator. Hmmmm.

I wasn't going to trust the new control bow anyway so I had a solid 
state unit fitted into the case of the original control box by Bob 
Jeffers of Wilton Auto Electrics, http://www.wiltonae.com

Installed the new solid state box and away we went ...... for 1 
week....no charge light again.OK, now I'm getting a bit disgruntled.So I 
checked, removed, cleaned, and Kopr-Shield every earth(ground) 
connection. Time to call Bob. Through emails and the phone Bob and I ran 
some tests and we concluded the generator was the culprit.I went over 
everything and found......I installed the brushes in their cages 90* off 
and they wouldn't contact the commutator.Yay!Wrong..no joy.

??????!!

Almost done!

From lmacy at mac.com  Wed Jul 25 13:01:30 2012
From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:01:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
In-Reply-To: <024401cd69ea$363ec700$a2bc5500$@bsink.com>
References: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3E3191E5@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>
	<BF63C9B0-266F-40F0-9966-EC7A503CCDA2@chartermi.net>
	<024401cd69ea$363ec700$a2bc5500$@bsink.com>
Message-ID: <949900F5-E0FD-42EC-89E7-6FE2C65A7A14@mac.com>

Since it went there, Frank started this list in Oct 1997. I was one of the first to join that day. 

I will my missing feelings for the Dean as well.

15 years come Oct.

Larry



On Jul 24, 2012, at 18:18 PM, David Camp <dxcamp at bsink.com> wrote:

> 1999? Wow - now I do feel old.
> 
> Dave in Kent
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:57 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What Dave wrote
> 
> Montana Bob's famous "Stop the Insanity" goodbye post was in Feb. 1999.
> Some of us must be getting old.  LOL
> 
> Rick
> 
> Sent from my keyboard
> 
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:15 PM, "Fisher, Ed" <edwd at ti.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dave in Kent, Ohio wrote, "and Montana Bob" when referring to what was 
>> forgotten as topics that kept the list lit up.  Thanks Dave, that made 
>> me chortle my lunch down the front of my shirt.  I had forgotten all 
>> about
> "Bob"
>> but now I remember what a character he was, how short-lived was his
> 'visit'
>> and what short work y'all made of him.  Dang, that seems a long time
> ago...
>> It did teach me a lot about net etiquette though.
>> 
>> Ed Fisher
>> Dallas, Tx
>> ------------------------
> ------------------------
> 
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> 
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

Some people are like a Slinky, not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. - Anon

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 13:25:54 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:25:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
Message-ID: <50104842.7090806@wi.net>

PART 3

After having the generator checked at the two shops again and declared 
working, I ran tests on the car and was getting very low readings, like 
2.1 v @ 1800 rpms.Worked in the shop but not on the car.

I called, my now good friend Rick Ewald, who sat down in a grocery store 
with a cup of coffee for an hour (many thanks to your wife for being 
patient!) and we ran a bunch of tests over the phone.No success but(!) 
Rick, even though I had the generator apart several times I dismantled 
it again.No, the through-bolts were not grounding out the field. But...

Remember what started all this?Because the cutout stayed closed, that 
allowed battery voltage to the generator which then tried to be a motor 
but couldn't turn because the fan belt prevented the pulley from turning 
so it got hot and threw solder and MELTED the harness.

I thought I'd look inside the generator one last time.Looking carefully 
at the end plate I noticed the nylon insulation around the "D" terminal 
was melted and I could wiggle the terminal which caused the brush cage 
to wiggle.It was very close to grounding fully to the case. Wow, didn't 
think of that.Another tidbit to file away in the memory bank (read: 
computer; my personal memory bank can no longer be trusted...A.D.D. can 
be...Oh, look! A Toad...a problem.).

I took the end plate to Jeff Johnson at Alstar Company Inc. in Hales 
Corners, WI (414.427.7991) who made some new insulators (I could have 
done it but was leaving for a week).It looks original and cranked out 
19.2v on startup @1800 rpms.Light is out, comes on when at idle, 
flickers as revs increase and goes out around 1200-1400 rpms. Standing 
voltage and running voltage under load all check out at ~12.4v.Next is a 
test drive but that will have to wait until I return from Alaska (No 
Barney, I'm not driving it to Alaska!).

So many thanks to all who helped:Barney Gaylord, Rick Ewald, Don Zubrod, 
Dave Spearing, Jeff Johnson, John (at Maxim Rebuilders in Burlington WI 
262.763.9441) and everyone else whose ear I gnawed on getting scraps of 
info.

Hope you never run into this problem!Fingers crossed.  "One never knows 
the depth of the well by the length of the handle on the pump"...my 
Father always said this.


/Safety Fast!/


Dave W
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 13:37:02 2012
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:37:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] replacement top
In-Reply-To: <D1904EFB-DDFD-40B5-804E-BE7D9998F90A@wi.rr.com>
References: <D1904EFB-DDFD-40B5-804E-BE7D9998F90A@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5Oso-0yJ4ksVN8=CH=XTzXjSCLeaYrkeoO1Loy_YM5xycw@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't seen much response to your querie, Gary, so here is my take.

I had a '77 Midget, so this advice may not work for a BE. Yours is a
removable hood, mine had an attached frame.

When I bought the car, there was a brand new, still in box Amco hood. What
was left on the frame was strips of tattered old material. I ordered a new
header seal and proceeded to install my first hood. Everything went
extremely well, and it fit perfectly. No leaks, except around the roll up
windows, which never seal well in these cars.

If you can find an Amco hood, you may want to try it. I can't find anything
on any company called Amco today. www.amcoauto.com sells tractor parts.

If you find a good, working hood, please post back to the list so all will
benefit.

Good luck,

Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:18 PM, gary majewski <gmajewski at wi.rr.com> wrote:

>         Spridgets Group,
>
>                                         Is there still a place one can get
> a replacement convertible top that
> will
>                 actually fit?  Ordered one from VB and it is about 2-3
> inches too small all
> the way around.
>                 Managed to finally get it stretched to attach to the front
> window but the
> cannot make a fit
>                 on the sides where the side curtains go. Would like to be
> able to use the
> vehicle when the
>                 temps finally drop to make it manageable to drive. You
> help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>                         Gary in SE Wisconsin      '59 BE
> ------------------------

From lmacy at mac.com  Wed Jul 25 13:48:42 2012
From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:48:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] replacement top
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5Oso-0yJ4ksVN8=CH=XTzXjSCLeaYrkeoO1Loy_YM5xycw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D1904EFB-DDFD-40B5-804E-BE7D9998F90A@wi.rr.com>
	<CAMEj5Oso-0yJ4ksVN8=CH=XTzXjSCLeaYrkeoO1Loy_YM5xycw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B560558-3FBD-46BE-BB8B-2A2678C20470@mac.com>

FWIW,

I bought a Prestige top for my Midget. <http://www.prestigeautotops.com>. High quality, fits great. I got the one with the Zip out rear window. Not too hard to put on, but make sure you are fully lined up BEFORE the glue sets ;-)

I do not know how it works in the rain as I have never driven it in the rain since the top went on. And now I have to wait for it to get fixed, AGAIN.

Larry

On Jul 25, 2012, at 15:37 PM, Allen Hefner <lbc77mg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't seen much response to your querie, Gary, so here is my take.
> 
> I had a '77 Midget, so this advice may not work for a BE. Yours is a
> removable hood, mine had an attached frame.
> 
> When I bought the car, there was a brand new, still in box Amco hood. What
> was left on the frame was strips of tattered old material. I ordered a new
> header seal and proceeded to install my first hood. Everything went
> extremely well, and it fit perfectly. No leaks, except around the roll up
> windows, which never seal well in these cars.
> 
> If you can find an Amco hood, you may want to try it. I can't find anything
> on any company called Amco today. www.amcoauto.com sells tractor parts.
> 
> If you find a good, working hood, please post back to the list so all will
> benefit.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
> 
> *Current:*
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:18 PM, gary majewski <gmajewski at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>>        Spridgets Group,
>> 
>>                                        Is there still a place one can get
>> a replacement convertible top that
>> will
>>                actually fit?  Ordered one from VB and it is about 2-3
>> inches too small all
>> the way around.
>>                Managed to finally get it stretched to attach to the front
>> window but the
>> cannot make a fit
>>                on the sides where the side curtains go. Would like to be
>> able to use the
>> vehicle when the
>>                temps finally drop to make it manageable to drive. You
>> help would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>>                        Gary in SE Wisconsin      '59 BE
>> ------------------------
> ------------------------
> 
> spridgets at autox.team.net
> 
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.

Dorothy Parker

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 14:02:10 2012
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:02:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] replacement top
In-Reply-To: <D1904EFB-DDFD-40B5-804E-BE7D9998F90A@wi.rr.com>
References: <D1904EFB-DDFD-40B5-804E-BE7D9998F90A@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAC3x7jMbz51ZoxmzKb43gGuqfSH=Lz5YznNwETLGLD6qb6mCPg@mail.gmail.com>

Gary,

I have purchased tops from Topsonline several times.  Good quality and good
fit.  The tops I have purchased from them are for later model cars (EZ On
Brand).  I have not bought any Bugeye tops from them.

http://www.topsonline.com/model/Convertible_Tops_And_Accessories/Austin_Healey_Sprite/1958_and_1959_Austin_Healey_Sprite_MK_I,_Bug_Eye.html

Or

*http://tinyurl.com/c7gtxzf*



Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:18 PM, gary majewski <gmajewski at wi.rr.com> wrote:

>         Spridgets Group,
>
>                                         Is there still a place one can get
> a replacement convertible top that
> will
>                 actually fit?  Ordered one from VB and it is about 2-3
> inches too small all
> the way around.
>                 Managed to finally get it stretched to attach to the front
> window but the
> cannot make a fit
>                 on the sides where the side curtains go. Would like to be
> able to use the
> vehicle when the
>                 temps finally drop to make it manageable to drive. You
> help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>                         Gary in SE Wisconsin      '59 BE
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 15:10:16 2012
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:10:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <024501cd69ed$65337850$2f9a68f0$@bsink.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.
	com> <6EFA830E-B50C-4A6F-8036-FB814A84DDE3@chartermi.net>
	<024501cd69ed$65337850$2f9a68f0$@bsink.com>
Message-ID: <1343250616.98366.YahooMailNeo@web122101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

> 1960 Bugeye - AN5L38924, 1275 with a 45DCOE (courtesy of Mr. Soave - thanks>again Ron - I love it).

Excellent to hear that. That carb, for whatever reason, was the the smoothest Weber I ever used (naturally I kept one of the others that is not as good!). I could not duplicate it with the identical jetting on the exact motor with the same manifold. Really glad it's working out -

Ron

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 15:42:54 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:42:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 997 Mini Cooper Pistons
Message-ID: <5010685E.7040800@wi.net>

A friend of mine has 4 "still in the box" pistons for sale.  Info:

Plain box with writing:  12A212 Type 9F  997cc  Bore 2.457"(standard 
according to Wikipedia and some Mini books)

Piston markings:  MOWOG,  3 inside diamond,  K37

Pistons are slightly concave and have 4 rings: 1-top, 2 compression, 1 oil.

3 are still wrapped in the oil/waxed "paper".  The 4th is unwrapped and 
its top ring is broken.

Price: best offer

If interested contact:  262.642.5465

If there's no interest he'll probably put them on Craig's.


BTW, I found this on Wikipedia, can't verify accuracy and most of you 
have probably seen it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMC_A-Series_engine

Dave W.  (nfi, just helping a friend)

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 25 15:46:05 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:46:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A + engines
Message-ID: <5010691D.3050502@wi.net>

After reading the Wikipedia article on A series engines I wondering what 
the difference is between the A and the A+ engines.
I don't have a Vizard with me and rely upon you to enlighten me.

Curious in Burlington

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 16:47:54 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:47:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <0A580B842C2045E9BC51270490D1121A@dell1>
References: <CAHkEVvQTjQxsFHSvMXeuXxMZ7JoTxxhT8rtauAdZjvgeDA9y2Q@mail.gmail.com><500F1ACF.8090107@wi.net><CAC3x7jNZmeT+JL0SHwKXheVx8KuFDG8U9GYNqcZEfxLVBvXQMg@mail.gmail.com><0A979430372344DF9B850F1E91208EED@shinynewlaptop><1343175952.15914.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><0A594005968B4AF4B4ECA4C0E1440388@Dell9200>
	<C2DB471DB52D4EEABBB6CC697C76C07A@Home>
	<0A580B842C2045E9BC51270490D1121A@dell1>
Message-ID: <1343256474.17685.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

And then there was Mark Endicott's classic riposte to MB's kissoff:


Wait
Eric! Do you have a cat? Mark
 


________________________________
 From: Biff
Jones <biffjones at verizon.net>
To: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> 
Cc:
Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
 
Michael,

Here is
one of Montana Bob's posts to the spridgets list.  Go to the spridget archives
and use montana bob as the search and you will get tons of Montana Bob hits.
     To:  spridgets at autox.team.net
     Subject:  Stop the insanity
   
From:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob <gillitze at cshl.org>
     Date:  Fri, 19
Feb 1999 13:18:28 -0500
     Reply-to:  Eric Gillitzer aka Montana Bob
<gillitze at cshl.org>
     Sender:  owner-spridgets at autox.team.net

I have been
reading this list, and the healey list, for the better part of
three years
now.  I have finally had it.  Both lists, in my opinion, have
degenerated from
a useful place to post questions and answers to some sort
of sophomore-ish yak
factory.  On a daily basis I throw out 60+ messages of
basically crap. 
Anytime ANYONE has a comment or question, the same group
of 15-20 people all
chime in and basically say "Me Too!!"  And then the
fights start as to whether
the fastener to be
used/purchased/begged/cajoled/stolen or loaned to someone
should be turned
3/4, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 or 1 turn to tighten it, and then what
color should it
be painted-silver, black, silver with black, black with
silver, etc etc ad
naseum.  God, don't any of you have families to deal with
or anything else
better to do(like go and work on your car)????  So, I'm
logging off, never
to return.  I enjoy working on my car, and the list WAS a
good source of
little known information, but I don't think it is anymore-as I
said.  Too
bad.

eric.
------------------------

From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 18:01:22 2012
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:01:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A + engines
In-Reply-To: <5010691D.3050502@wi.net>
References: <5010691D.3050502@wi.net>
Message-ID: <002601cd6ac1$cce14480$66a3cd80$@com>

Hi Dave,

There may be other things that distinguish the A+ engines, but they have 11
bolt heads. I believe they put those engines in the Mini Cooper S cars, the
classic ones.  I have an A+ engine that I bought from a friend, but it is in
England.

Neil Anderson
N. Illinois

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dwoerpel
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:46 PM
To: MGs; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] A + engines

After reading the Wikipedia article on A series engines I wondering what the
difference is between the A and the A+ engines.
I don't have a Vizard with me and rely upon you to enlighten me.

Curious in Burlington
------------------------

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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 25 19:43:06 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:43:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] A + engines
In-Reply-To: <002601cd6ac1$cce14480$66a3cd80$@com>
References: <5010691D.3050502@wi.net>
  <002601cd6ac1$cce14480$66a3cd80$@com>
Message-ID: <1343266986.7437.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Dear Curious (sounds like the Playboy Advisor, doesn't it?)


Daniel can
chime in here and tell us how we're all wrong, but IIRC the A+ engine was out
of the Metro.  Here's some info:
http://www.minimania.com/article/1601/Engine_-_Metro_engine_identification_da
ta  There was also a Metro turbo: 
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=4724

 
Rick


Follow My
Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
________________________________

-----Original Message-----
From:
spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of dwoerpel
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:46 PM
To: MGs;
Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] A + engines

After reading the
Wikipedia article on A series engines I wondering what the
difference is
between the A and the A+ engines.
I don't have a Vizard with me and rely upon
you to enlighten me.

Curious in Burlington
------------------------

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul 25 23:27:48 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:27:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] A + engines
In-Reply-To: <584BE77E-F02F-4504-AA86-3B7D88EC37CA@aol.com>
References: <5010691D.3050502@wi.net>
	<584BE77E-F02F-4504-AA86-3B7D88EC37CA@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5010D554.1070007@justbrits.com>

<< On 7/25/2012 9:33 PM, John Elwood wrote:

In addition to what it says, I understand that it is metric. >>

Where do you get that, John ? ? ?  Sure make working on them difficult ! !

And make the interchanging of parts (now on-going TTBOMK) 'impossible 
? ! ?

Ed

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Thu Jul 26 00:00:44 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 23:00:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] replacement top
Message-ID: <CABWjhcKLxgp41-dETAqo+Cg-oQ-kv8CMLUL0A6hnRYNX8qac1g@mail.gmail.com>

Apply something the threads immediately.
Mine are rotting out, installed in 2007!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Larry Macy <lmacy at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] replacement top

FWIW,

I bought a Prestige top for my Midget. <http://www.prestigeautotops.com>.
High quality, fits great. I got the one with the Zip out rear window. Not
too hard to put on, but make sure you are fully lined up BEFORE the glue
sets ;-)

I do not know how it works in the rain as I have never driven it in the
rain since the top went on. And now I have to wait for it to get fixed,
AGAIN.

Larry

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 26 03:03:55 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:03:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] A+ studs/bolts Re:  A + engines
Message-ID: <2167e.9242d16.3d4261fb@aol.com>

The In-line A+ engine as fitted to the Morris Ital was not an 11 stud  
(bolt) engine.
 
In a message dated 26/07/2012 01:01:32 GMT Daylight Time,  
neilandcustom at gmail.com writes:

Hi  Dave,

There may be other things that distinguish the A+ engines, but  they have 11
bolt heads. I believe they put those engines in the Mini  Cooper S cars, the
classic ones.  I have an A+ engine that I bought  from a friend, but it is 
in
England.

Neil Anderson
N.  Illinois

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 26 03:08:13 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:08:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] A + engines
Message-ID: <a7c6.1e16d53.3d4262fc@aol.com>

I'm sure there's a really good Sprite and Midget book with a lot of this  
stuff in along with colour photos (earlier books had black and white  photos).
 
There was an in-line A+ engine fitted to the Morris Ital, not to be  
confused with the in-line engine fitted to the Morris Minor which was neither A+  
or Spridget.  Both end up in Morris Minors and Spridgets.
 
At the Sprite Jubilee Jim Danielson had a Metro Turbo installation on his  
in-line 1275 A-series but without the ignition retard that I told him he  
needed....
 
Regards
 
 
Weslake-Monza
 
In a message dated 26/07/2012 02:46:57 GMT Daylight Time,  
healeyrick at yahoo.com writes:

Daniel  can
chime in here and tell us how we're all wrong, but IIRC the A+ engine  was 
out
of the Metro.  Here's some  info:
http://www.minimania.com/article/1601/Engine_-_Metro_engine_identification_d
a
ta   There was also a Metro turbo:  
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=4724


Rick

From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Thu Jul 26 06:16:00 2012
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
In-Reply-To: <50104842.7090806@wi.net>
References: <50104842.7090806@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1343304960.36709.YahooMailNeo@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Dave,
 
Interesting read - all parts of it.  I enjoyed it thoroughly. 
However, all through the read, I kept wondering why you didn't simply toss the
generator and install one of the five or six that are undoubtedly sitting on
the shelf way in the back of your garage?
 
Mike
________________________________
From: dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: MGs
<mgs at autox.team.net>; Spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012
3:25 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3

PART 3

After having
the generator checked at the two shops again and declared 
working, I ran
tests on the car and was getting very low readings, like 
2.1 v @ 1800
rpms.Worked in the shop but not on the car.

I called, my now good friend Rick
Ewald, who sat down in a grocery store 
with a cup of coffee for an hour (many
thanks to your wife for being 
patient!) and we ran a bunch of tests over the
phone.No success but(!) 
Rick, even though I had the generator apart several
times I dismantled 
it again.No, the through-bolts were not grounding out the
field. But...

Remember what started all this?Because the cutout stayed
closed, that 
allowed battery voltage to the generator which then tried to be
a motor 
but couldn't turn because the fan belt prevented the pulley from
turning 
so it got hot and threw solder and MELTED the harness.

I thought I'd
look inside the generator one last time.Looking carefully 
at the end plate I
noticed the nylon insulation around the "D" terminal 
was melted and I could
wiggle the terminal which caused the brush cage 
to wiggle.It was very close
to grounding fully to the case. Wow, didn't 
think of that.Another tidbit to
file away in the memory bank (read: 
computer; my personal memory bank can no
longer be trusted...A.D.D. can 
be...Oh, look! A Toad...a problem.).

I took
the end plate to Jeff Johnson at Alstar Company Inc. in Hales 
Corners, WI
(414.427.7991) who made some new insulators (I could have 
done it but was
leaving for a week).It looks original and cranked out 
19.2v on startup @1800
rpms.Light is out, comes on when at idle, 
flickers as revs increase and goes
out around 1200-1400 rpms. Standing 
voltage and running voltage under load
all check out at ~12.4v.Next is a 
test drive but that will have to wait until
I return from Alaska (No 
Barney, I'm not driving it to Alaska!).

So many
thanks to all who helped:Barney Gaylord, Rick Ewald, Don Zubrod, 
Dave
Spearing, Jeff Johnson, John (at Maxim Rebuilders in Burlington WI
262.763.9441) and everyone else whose ear I gnawed on getting scraps of 
info.
Hope you never run into this problem!Fingers crossed.  "One never knows 
the
depth of the well by the length of the handle on the pump"...my 
Father always
said this.


/Safety Fast!/


Dave W
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI
------------------------

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jul 26 10:31:24 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:31:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
In-Reply-To: <1343304960.36709.YahooMailNeo@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <50104842.7090806@wi.net>
	<1343304960.36709.YahooMailNeo@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP24311EE1C40D80181BB9BDB8C20@phx.gbl>

You may have answered your own question?  Perhaps hey we're in the back ...
behind all the other spares!

Robert
Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.

On 2012-07-26, at 8:16 AM, "lotuspilot at frontier.com" <lotuspilot at frontier.com>
wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Interesting read - all parts of it.  I enjoyed it thoroughly.
> However, all through the read, I kept wondering why you didn't simply toss
the
> generator and install one of the five or six that are undoubtedly sitting
on
> the shelf way in the back of your garage?
>
> Mike
> ________________________________
> From: dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jul 26 10:58:47 2012
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:58:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP24311EE1C40D80181BB9BDB8C20@phx.gbl>
References: <50104842.7090806@wi.net>
	<1343304960.36709.YahooMailNeo@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP24311EE1C40D80181BB9BDB8C20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP183E883D299CA0C0189485B8C20@phx.gbl>

Dang spell checker!  :)

> You may have answered your own question?  Perhaps hey we're in the back ...
> behind all the other spares!
>
> Robert
> Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.
>
> On 2012-07-26, at 8:16 AM, "lotuspilot at frontier.com"
<lotuspilot at frontier.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Interesting read - all parts of it.  I enjoyed it thoroughly.
>> However, all through the read, I kept wondering why you didn't simply toss
> the
>> generator and install one of the five or six that are undoubtedly sitting
> on
>> the shelf way in the back of your garage?
>>
>> Mike
>> ________________________________
>> From: dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
> ------------------------
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Jul 26 11:25:19 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:25:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga & A+ engines
In-Reply-To: <1343304960.36709.YahooMailNeo@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <50104842.7090806@wi.net>
	<1343304960.36709.YahooMailNeo@web124905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50117D7F.8000300@wi.net>

Ahhh yes.  The simple answer to your (and several others) question  is, 
I'm deranged and stubborn.  I'm one of those originality people that 
when I found out the generator that came with the car when I purchased 
it was dated a bit before the build date of the car, I had to keep it.  
It has the screw on connectors rather than Lucar (spade) connectors and 
I like those better anyway.  The rear plate has the nylon insulation and 
but would prefer the phenolic.

You are correct, I have 12 generators lying around, 3 of which have the 
tach drive rear plate for the Bugey and MkII Sprite (MkI Midget).  All 
are Lucar connections (except the tach drive units) and their front 
plates have a longer distance between mounting holes, which I find 
interesting, but I would then need a longer adjustment arm.  Apparently 
the one on my MGA is shorter (may not be original?  Barney?).

The REAL answer is: I DO NOT like throwing parts on the car if I do not 
know the underlying cause for the problem.  I wasn't sure if it was the 
generator as it checked out in the shop.  It could have been the control 
box and Bob Jeffers and I did all we could over the phone.  He offered 
to check out both the generator and his control box and that is what I 
was going to do until I had the "just-one-more-look" moment.   In short 
(pun intended), I didn't want to blow some other part.  If this were 45 
years ago and the car my sole transport, I would've thrown parts at it.

I may very well change to an alternator in future.  I drive my cars, 
they are not trailer queens.  When I look at another person's car and 
see an alternator, I think, "Yes! This car is driven and the owner 
probably doesn't have the drama of driving long distances or after dark 
that I do.  When I see a generator on a car I assume the poor owner 
suffers from much the same affliction as I or doesn't want to change 
over for whatever reason.

I'm not defending my position at all...I know it's "just me".  :-)

What a great list we have.  AND thanks to all who answered my queries 
about A+ engines.  I was doing well until Daniel threw in the bit about 
about the Morris Ital A+ engine not having 11 studs. I'll have to dig up 
that book.

Regards,
Dave W.



On 7/26/2012 7:16 AM, lotuspilot at frontier.com wrote:
> Dave,
>   
> Interesting read - all parts of it.  I enjoyed it thoroughly.
> However, all through the read, I kept wondering why you didn't simply toss the
> generator and install one of the five or six that are undoubtedly sitting on
> the shelf way in the back of your garage?
>   
> Mike
> ________________________________
> From: dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
> To: MGs
> <mgs at autox.team.net>; Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012
> 3:25 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
>
> PART 3

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Thu Jul 26 11:32:58 2012
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:32:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Update: 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising money for  daughter getting married
Message-ID: <CABWjhcLf-NZJxrigGWSiZcvtLuNvLrKsnJL=30_M4B=kbZ8VdQ@mail.gmail.com>

For any / all interested here's an update.
My daughter and her guy have been over doing some work on the place, and a
couple days ago they offered money to help with the bathroom.
I thanked them for their generosity and told them to keep it, they are
going to need it.

There were a few people interested in my DE or in the 14" barrel but
apparently I value these things too highly.

No one is interested in my Sprite. I cut the price on my ad by $1500 and
still no calls.
That's fine, I like my things and I'll keep them.
We applied for and received credit at Home Despot and Lowes, so we will
just get everything we need that way.

My wife has her first published book coming out next month, so when the big
checks start coming in we'll just pay off the debts...
(I know, counting the eggs before we even have chickens here)

If anyone is interested in buying the book in either Ebook or paperback
here's the publishers web site:

(it's 'coming soon' so I'll update the list when it's actually available)

http://www.blacklyonpublishing.com/Dear%20Miklos.html
or for Ed:
*http://tinyurl.com/d2l7mfh

*Rick (just keep 'em) Bastedo


On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Our oldest let us know about a month ago she will be getting married here
> at our house on August 25th.
> I tried bribing her to elope instead but was unsuccessful.
>
> She gave me a list of things to do before the wedding, and at the top was
> "fix the bathroom".
> Well I started and things have gone from bad to worse, you never know
> what's lurking just below that layer of paint.

From a61bugeye at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 13:32:04 2012
From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Update: 1964 MK2 Sprite,
 Desert Eagle: raising  money for  daughter getting married
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcLf-NZJxrigGWSiZcvtLuNvLrKsnJL=30_M4B=kbZ8VdQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Rick,
 
I went through what your going through about 4 years ago. I spent the
summer working insid and out geting ready for the wedding. After it was over I
got to set back and injoy all the improvments. 4 years later I still am
injoing them.
 
Bill W


________________________________
From: Rick Bastedo
<rbastedo at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, July 26,
2012 10:32 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Update: 1964 MK2 Sprite, Desert Eagle:
raising money for daughter getting married

For any / all interested here's an
update.
My daughter and her guy have been over doing some work on the place,
and a
couple days ago they offered money to help with the bathroom.
I thanked
them for their generosity and told them to keep it, they are
going to need it.
There were a few people interested in my DE or in the 14" barrel but
apparently I value these things too highly.

No one is interested in my
Sprite. I cut the price on my ad by $1500 and
still no calls.
That's fine, I
like my things and I'll keep them.
We applied for and received credit at Home
Despot and Lowes, so we will
just get everything we need that way.

My wife
has her first published book coming out next month, so when the big
checks
start coming in we'll just pay off the debts...
(I know, counting the eggs
before we even have chickens here)

If anyone is interested in buying the book
in either Ebook or paperback
here's the publishers web site:

(it's 'coming
soon' so I'll update the list when it's actually available)
http://www.blacklyonpublishing.com/Dear%20Miklos.html
or for Ed:
*http://tinyurl.com/d2l7mfh

*Rick (just keep 'em) Bastedo


On Sat, Jul 21,
2012 at 11:20 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Our oldest let
us know about a month ago she will be getting married here
> at our house on
August 25th.
> I tried bribing her to elope instead but was unsuccessful.
>
>
She gave me a list of things to do before the wedding, and at the top was
>
"fix the bathroom".
> Well I started and things have gone from bad to worse,
you never know
> what's lurking just below that layer of paint.
------------------------

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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Jul 26 16:21:17 2012
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:21:17 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Door Seal?
Message-ID: <20120726.162117.9402.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

So here's the resolution to my non-fitting door seal. First off, it was an
ebay leftover purchase, so I have no idea where it originally came from.
To rehash the problem, I couldn't get the door seal to press over any more
than one layer of the sheet metal. My final resolution was to take a small
Craftsman (from before the Kresge takeover) to the clip. I inserted the small
screwdriver between each pair of clip ends and turned it 90*. This opened up
the clip just enough that I could wrangle and muscle the door seal into place.
Sometimes I'm just afraid that I'll be too aggressive with things and not be
able to get back to my starting point.
All smiles now, though. The doors don't rattle anymore, now I just need to
finish the door pockets and screw them on too!


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Jul 26 17:37:20 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:37:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
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Shoot. This is why I dislike electrical systems.  To me they are
capricious; they work one time and not another.  I know there has to be
cause and effect but sometimes it's beyond me.

I hope your replacement box lasts longer than mine did.  The quality seems
to be hit or miss.  My original control box last for over 30 years.  From
whom did you purchase your new control box?  Let us know how long it
lasts.

Bob wanted 3 tests run on the generator so he could tailor the solid state
box to the car.  I assume you did those?  What are your symptoms? (no
charge light on?)

Hopefully the list has the answer.

Dave W.



> Hmmmm.. I too have been having charging problems on my Bugeye BUT mine is
> now cured as it is charging the battery at about 13.1 V at around 1800
> rpm.
> I had the generator checked (working great) and then narrowed it down to
> the
> control; box.  I then sent of my old unit to Wilton Auto Electric and had
> it
> converted to electronic.  Got it back, installed, and NO WORK...  I then
> rechecked evverything and sent the converted regulator back to Wilton
> Electric to be checked . repaired.  Meanwhile I ordered a replacement o;d
> style control box and the charging system works fine...Meanwhile the
> electronic control box comes in and... IT STILL DOESNbT WORK..  Bob says
> everything is fine with it....   I am certain my control box and generator
> are working fine so whats up with the electronic one?
>
>
> Leo

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 26 19:08:54 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:08:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
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"It is a bit comforting to know that if the car has a generator(dynamo) and
your battery is dead, the car runs off the generator (once it's started).If
the car has an alternator and the battery gets low or a cable gets
disconnected, the engine quits."

I agree with above but I think it's a pretty rare circumstance that the
battery goes fully dead.  There only needs to be a little voltage in the
field and the alternator will put out.  A jump gets you going.   

There are reasons why the industry migrated to alternators. More efficient,
compact, and most importantly, no brushes.

But I wonder, if your battery is fully dead, will your new solidstate
control box work?

The point I'm making here is maybe it might have been easier to just convert
to an alternator in the first place.  I know, it's no longer original
looking, but gosh darn they are reliable.

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul 25 08:46:28 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:46:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] car update
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<< On 7/25/2012 4:11 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote:

1997 MG F  wifes topless  car  >>

Alan, how in the world did you CONVINCE her that "operating a motorcar whilst topless...."
[i.e. sans blouse/shirt & bra] is  'proper' ? ? ?  Is she French ? ?   "Liberated" American ??

Enquiring [USA, at leas] minds NEED to know ! ! !

HealyRic

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 27 01:33:18 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:33:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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<< On 7/25/2012 11:16 AM, Lester Ewing wrote:

about those silver colored "Sprite" badges...  >>

Lester, I thought that they are (supposed) painted like the gas cap,
you know "car colour".

Anon

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Jul 27 02:30:23 2012
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 04:30:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
Message-ID: <24dd3.240d0fba.3d43ab9f@aol.com>

You can buy alternators that look just like the original Lucas Dynamo -  
best of both worlds at a price.
 
 
In a message dated 27/07/2012 02:15:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

The  point I'm making here is maybe it might have been easier to just 
convert
to  an alternator in the first place.  I know, it's no longer  original
looking, but gosh darn they are  reliable.

From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Fri Jul 27 05:03:50 2012
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 04:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <5012443E.60002@justbrits.com>
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Yep, those are chrome as was an option on Bugeyes.  The Gold with red was
original on some but not all Bugeyes.
 
The chrome ones have the advantage of
looking cooler 
 
Mike


________________________________
From: "" Just Brits
" Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Friday, July
27, 2012 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

<<
On 7/25/2012 11:16 AM, Lester Ewing wrote:

about those silver colored
"Sprite" badges...  >>

Lester, I thought that they are (supposed) painted
like the gas cap,
you know "car colour".

Anon
------------------------

From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Fri Jul 27 05:27:46 2012
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 04:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
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I just figured all Spridget junkies like us had a salvage yard of old and
dying Spridgets out back ;^).
 
I didn't even notice the mis-spelling.  I need
to work on my own spell checker.
 
A little about what I have been up to:  
 
I have been working on my '62 Sprite/Midget.  It really is a Spridget as I
used the best no rust parts from several cars to build one really nice one. 
It ended up a Sprite as that is mostly what it is and I like the simplicity
and lack of chrome on a Sprite.  I also had a full race suspension from a race
Bugeye that I had.  Magnesium 4 in. A.R.E. Silverstones that fit within stock
rear wings.  Later-'68 brake set-up and pedal box.  Nice roll bar that I hope
not to bump my head on.  Hot 1275 .020 over -alum flywheel, aluminum cyl.
head, aluminum wherever else I could put it.  I wish that I could turn it into
a Coventry Climax.
 
I am use to driving either of my Lotus Sevens with
A-series engine and the Sprite has a severe disadvantage in acceleration I
have noticed.  Top speed seems similar though.  The Sprite seems more "stable"
at higher speeds.  Must be a result of the 700 lbs of extra girth.
 
This
coming Winter, I will finish the '61 Bugeye that I have been working on for a
decade now.  I am trying to slim down what I have as there is only so many
hours in a day for upkeep and too many irons in the fire leads to less
enjoyment of what you really want to enjoy.  The Bugeye will have original 5
in. magnesium minilites with original alloy lug nuts - 1275.  Original Sebring
Sprite pedal box with Girling master cylinders - Works hardtop etc., etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Mike


________________________________
From: Robert Duquette
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: Robert Duquette
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca> 
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent:
Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part
3 of 3

Dang spell checker!  :)

> You may have answered your own question? 
Perhaps hey we're in the back ...
> behind all the other spares!
>
> Robert
>
Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them.
>
> On
2012-07-26, at 8:16 AM, "lotuspilot at frontier.com"
<lotuspilot at frontier.com>
>
wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Interesting read - all parts of it.  I enjoyed it
thoroughly.
>> However, all through the read, I kept wondering why you didn't
simply toss
> the
>> generator and install one of the five or six that are
undoubtedly sitting
> on
>> the shelf way in the back of your garage?
>>
>>
Mike
>> ________________________________
>> From: dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
>
------------------------

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Fri Jul 27 06:16:09 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:16:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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Mike
Are you sure about theMK1 badges?  I'm referring to the originality point,
not which is cooler.
George

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:03 AM, "lotuspilot at frontier.com"
<lotuspilot at frontier.com> wrote:

> Yep, those are chrome as was an option on Bugeyes.  The Gold with red was
> original on some but not all Bugeyes.
>
> The chrome ones have the advantage of
> looking cooler
>
> Mike
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "" Just Brits
> " Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Friday, July
> 27, 2012 3:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>
> <<
> On 7/25/2012 11:16 AM, Lester Ewing wrote:
>
> about those silver colored
> "Sprite" badges...  >>
>
> Lester, I thought that they are (supposed) painted
> like the gas cap,
> you know "car colour".
>
> Anon
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul 27 08:53:30 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:53:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
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Yup, anything for a price.  Holden's C39 + earth #500 (~$786).  Very 
cool that they're making those but a little too rich for my blood.

I asked myself, as I always do, WWFD?  Frank would slap on a Delco or 
similar alternator and be done after a hour. It would take a while to 
switch terminals and mod the control box into a junction box, etc.

Believe me that's next on the list if this doesn't remain working.  It 
also mean capitulating to the problem which irks me to no end.  However, 
if it means I could be driving the car.....

:-)  Dave W.



On 7/27/2012 3:30 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> You can buy alternators that look just like the original Lucas Dynamo 
> - best of both worlds at a price.
> In a message dated 27/07/2012 02:15:23 GMT Daylight Time, 
> dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:
>
>     The point I'm making here is maybe it might have been easier to
>     just convert
>     to an alternator in the first place.  I know, it's no longer original
>     looking, but gosh darn they are reliable.

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Fri Jul 27 11:17:49 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:17:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... 1275 starter
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Recommendations for Peter & world wide auto parts can't be higher!!!
George



Sent from my iPad

On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:55 AM, "Larry" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> For those who don't know, Peter C. owns World Wide Auto Parts. He stocks
parts for our cars. That is how he knows the numbers you needed. Here is an
idea: call him for your parts.
>
> http://www.nosimport.com/
>
> --- In bugeye at yahoogroups.com, "donhaywood" <donhaywood at ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave....Thanks for the information. I'm thinking the two e-bay listings
are a little too dear. I'd be into it near 65.00 and still have a starter with
a lot of miles on it. I could have a fully rebuilt one from VB for twice that.
Better yet, Ed's Just Brits has one also--rebuilt. Thanks for the help. I
still haven't looked around here at the local rebuild shops [like you
mentioned] and plan to do it tomorrow. Maybe I'll get lucky. Maybe Peter will
have an answer too. I have sent him a message. Don
> >
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From gmari2 at verizon.net  Fri Jul 27 11:31:25 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:31:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012
Message-ID: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>

http://austin-healey-stc.org/ahstcevent/encounter-2012/

Hi everyone,

Shameless on topic promotion for a great Healey event to be held in New Jersey
in August.  The Austin Healey Sports & Touring Club's "Encounter".  Check out
the above link, and let me know if you have any questions.
Regards
George

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul 27 11:39:52 2012
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:39:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012
In-Reply-To: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>
References: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>
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George,

Are you still doing Concours judging?

If so, be on the look-out for the correct rear badges.

 jay




________________________________
From: George MARINOS <gmari2 at verizon.net>
To: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; healeys at autox.team.net; 
bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 27, 2012 1:34:23 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012

http://austin-healey-stc.org/ahstcevent/encounter-2012/

Hi everyone,

Shameless on topic promotion for a great Healey event to be held in New Jersey
in August.  The Austin Healey Sports & Touring Club's "Encounter".  Check out
the above link, and let me know if you have any questions.
Regards
George

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Fri Jul 27 11:55:04 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:55:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012
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Yes, and your a funny guy.
G

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> George,
>
> Are you still doing Concours judging?
>
> If so, be on the look-out for the correct rear badges.
>
> jay
>
>
> From: George MARINOS <gmari2 at verizon.net>
> To: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; healeys at autox.team.net;
bugeye at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, July 27, 2012 1:34:23 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012
>
> http://austin-healey-stc.org/ahstcevent/encounter-2012/
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Shameless on topic promotion for a great Healey event to be held in New
Jersey
> in August.  The Austin Healey Sports & Touring Club's "Encounter".  Check
out
> the above link, and let me know if you have any questions.
> Regards
> George

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 11:58:36 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:58:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012
In-Reply-To: <1343410792.86229.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>
	<1343410792.86229.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1343411916.56114.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

You mean the carbon fiber ones?

 
Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:
http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo


________________________________
 From: Jay
<jfishbein at snet.net>
To: George MARINOS <gmari2 at verizon.net>; Spridget List
<spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:39 PM
Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Encounter 2012
 
George,

Are you still doing Concours judging?
If so, be on the look-out for the correct rear badges.

jay
________________________________

From miniac7 at aol.com  Fri Jul 27 12:01:22 2012
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:01:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012
In-Reply-To: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>
References: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <8CF3A38F75A4D1B-199C-22363@webmail-m064.sysops.aol.com>

Looking forward to it...see you there.

Howard Collins
'60 AH Bugeye Sprite
'68 Austin Mini



-----Original Message-----
From: George MARINOS <gmari2 at verizon.net>
To: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; healeys
<healeys at autox.team.net>; bugeye <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 1:34 pm
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012


http://austin-healey-stc.org/ahstcevent/encounter-2012/
Hi everyone,
Shameless on topic promotion for a great Healey event to be held in New
Jersey
n August.  The Austin Healey Sports & Touring Club's "Encounter".  Check out
he above link, and let me know if you have any questions.
egards
eorge
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From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Jul 27 12:30:18 2012
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:30:18 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3
References: <24dd3.240d0fba.3d43ab9f@aol.com> <5012AB6A.4090307@wi.net>
Message-ID: <99FDE7E5DE8C4E43881C4768EEF3B0C0@user8634b3d69b>

Wouldn't Frank have used ANYTHING that worked and done it in the quickest 
time possible using every short cut he knew about?

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dwoerpel" <dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Electrical Saga part 3 of 3


> Yup, anything for a price.  Holden's C39 + earth #500 (~$786).  Very
> cool that they're making those but a little too rich for my blood.
>
> I asked myself, as I always do, WWFD?  Frank would slap on a Delco or
> similar alternator and be done after a hour. It would take a while to
> switch terminals and mod the control box into a junction box, etc.
>
> Believe me that's next on the list if this doesn't remain working.  It
> also mean capitulating to the problem which irks me to no end.  However,
> if it means I could be driving the car.....
>
> :-)  Dave W.
>
>
>
> On 7/27/2012 3:30 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>> You can buy alternators that look just like the original Lucas Dynamo
>> - best of both worlds at a price.
>> In a message dated 27/07/2012 02:15:23 GMT Daylight Time,
>> dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:
>>
>>     The point I'm making here is maybe it might have been easier to
>>     just convert
>>     to an alternator in the first place.  I know, it's no longer original
>>     looking, but gosh darn they are reliable.
> ------------------------
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From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul 27 14:58:42 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:58:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter 2012
In-Reply-To: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>
References: <453A9C0D-B373-4394-ABDE-0C7ABA33AAD6@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4F9BA855-BCE2-4506-99DE-633B0FC1F698@verizon.net>

Jane and I will see you there on Friday.

Phil Nase
Applebachsville, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
p:p8p,p'


On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:31 PM, George MARINOS <gmari2 at verizon.net> wrote:

> http://austin-healey-stc.org/ahstcevent/encounter-2012/
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Shameless on topic promotion for a great Healey event to be held in New
Jersey
> in August.  The Austin Healey Sports & Touring Club's "Encounter".  Check
out
> the above link, and let me know if you have any questions.
> Regards
> George
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Fri Jul 27 17:39:46 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:39:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <1343387030.65555.YahooMailNeo@web124903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

No, you are wrong.  Chrome was not an option.   All original Bugeyew were
delivered with gold with red arrows.  The chrome arrow was offered later as a
replacement.  This is the same argument I get in over the gas cap.  The cars
were delivered with body colored painted caps.  When the original owner forgot
the cap at the gas station and could not retrieve it.  Hos only option was to
buy a replacement.  They did not sell body colored gas caps and he had to buy
the stainless steel or chrome replacement available at parts houses.  Or were
you baiting me with this post...
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

--- On Fri, 7/27/12, lotuspilot at frontier.com <lotuspilot at frontier.com> wrote:

From: lotuspilot at frontier.com <lotuspilot at frontier.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
To: "" Just Brits " Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>, "spridgets at autox.team.net"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 11:03 AM

Yep, those are chrome as was an option on Bugeyes.  The Gold with red was
original on some but not all Bugeyes.

The chrome ones have the advantage of
looking cooler

Mike

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jul 27 17:59:25 2012
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:59:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8429C13A-9148-4400-B60D-62C4F5E939BD@comcast.net>

Well if the list is slow then that remark is sure to being some traffic..
;-)

Not exactly bait...

Lester


On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:

> No, you are wrong.  Chrome was not an option.   All original Bugeyew were
> delivered with gold with red arrows.  The chrome arrow was offered later as
a
> replacement.  This is the same argument I get in over the gas cap.  The
cars
> were delivered with body colored painted caps.  When the original owner
forgot
> the cap at the gas station and could not retrieve it.  Hos only option was
to
> buy a replacement.  They did not sell body colored gas caps and he had to
buy
> the stainless steel or chrome replacement available at parts houses.  Or
were
> you baiting me with this post...
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> 02 Heritage Springer
>
> --- On Fri, 7/27/12, lotuspilot at frontier.com <lotuspilot at frontier.com>
wrote:
>
> From: lotuspilot at frontier.com <lotuspilot at frontier.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
> To: "" Just Brits " Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>, "spridgets at autox.team.net"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 11:03 AM
>
> Yep, those are chrome as was an option on Bugeyes.  The Gold with red was
> original on some but not all Bugeyes.
>
> The chrome ones have the advantage of
> looking cooler
>
> Mike
> ------------------------
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From gmari2 at verizon.net  Fri Jul 27 18:44:11 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:44:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <8429C13A-9148-4400-B60D-62C4F5E939BD@comcast.net>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<8429C13A-9148-4400-B60D-62C4F5E939BD@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <37BBDBD3-B357-4DD1-9A35-E01961D6B4DB@verizon.net>

Yup...you got sucked in like I did mike.  Long live Frank.
George

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Well if the list is slow then that remark is sure to being some traffic..
> ;-)
>
> Not exactly bait...
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
>
>> No, you are wrong.  Chrome was not an option.   All original Bugeyew were
>> delivered with gold with red arrows.  The chrome arrow was offered later
as
> a
>> replacement.  This is the same argument I get in over the gas cap.  The
> cars
>> were delivered with body colored painted caps.  When the original owner
> forgot
>> the cap at the gas station and could not retrieve it.  Hos only option was
> to
>> buy a replacement.  They did not sell body colored gas caps and he had to
> buy
>> the stainless steel or chrome replacement available at parts houses.  Or
> were
>> you baiting me with this post...
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>> 02 Heritage Springer
>>
>> --- On Fri, 7/27/12, lotuspilot at frontier.com <lotuspilot at frontier.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> From: lotuspilot at frontier.com <lotuspilot at frontier.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>> To: "" Just Brits " Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>, "spridgets at autox.team.net"
>> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 11:03 AM
>>
>> Yep, those are chrome as was an option on Bugeyes.  The Gold with red was
>> original on some but not all Bugeyes.
>>
>> The chrome ones have the advantage of
>> looking cooler
>>
>> Mike
>> ------------------------
>>
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>>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 27 21:07:06 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:07:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>

<< On 7/27/2012 6:39 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:

Or were you baiting me with this post...  >>

Who, ME Mike ? ! ?  Shirley you jest !  Besides, I would never do such a thing ! ! !  O:-)

And of course, your post is entirely WRONG ! !

er WAIT, are you baiting g ME ? ? ? ?

Ed

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jul 28 06:40:33 2012
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:40:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>

Who's Shirley?


> Or were you baiting me with this post...  >>
>
> Who, ME Mike ? ! ?  Shirley you jest !  Besides, I would never do such a 
> thing ! ! !  O:-)
>
> And of course, your post is entirely WRONG ! !
>
> er WAIT, are you baiting g ME ? ? ? ?
>
> Ed

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 08:46:47 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:46:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Who's Shirley?
>
>
>
>  Or were you baiting me with this post...  >>
>>
>> Who, ME Mike ? ! ?  Shirley you jest !  Besides, I would never do such a
>> thing ! ! !  O:-)
>>
>> And of course, your post is entirely WRONG ! !
>>
>> er WAIT, are you baiting g ME ? ? ? ?
>>
>> Ed
>>
> ------------------------
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>



--
Cheers!!
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Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living
are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 08:57:36 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:57:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx79Pd8eT8ijJdnXkxCnv_pif06+iXLZ_kKi8E0M=0udGPg@mail.gmail.com>

There are plenty of listers full of NOS hot air.

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Jul 28 12:12:54 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:12:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ACB45E1D-AC87-4EBA-A3E1-63F07A91B866@chartermi.net>

I've got some Bugeye wheels that were last aired up about 1970.  Still holding
pressure.  Not NOS, but vintage California air.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard


On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 12:44:13 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:44:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Need NOS release arm BOOT says Mowog on boot,
 contains my  youtube : )
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVdDE=9Lgg2eFLnjyk25vqEgPe7kw73KjoGhBtU-O9hrAA@mail.gmail.com>

List,
Does anyone know where I can buy an NOS release arm BOOT which goes to
the transmission opening between the arm and the clutch slave
cylinder? If says Mowog on boot it is NOS which I prefer as after
market will be too difficult to fit.
See MOSS diagram it's number 6 on this link, well MOSS is good for
some things ....wink.
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29287

Youtube of my boot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnVySIJei3c

Thanks Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 28 13:12:35 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:12:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <ACB45E1D-AC87-4EBA-A3E1-63F07A91B866@chartermi.net>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<ACB45E1D-AC87-4EBA-A3E1-63F07A91B866@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVdHe-mUPH60RxaHjZStsRGjvh3qmY0101C8MpC3G7Rsbw@mail.gmail.com>

As a native wanting to move back home to California I love California Air ; )
Lin

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> I've got some Bugeye wheels that were last aired up about 1970.  Still holding
> pressure.  Not NOS, but vintage California air.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?
> ------------------------
>
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>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 28 13:39:04 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:39:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVdHe-mUPH60RxaHjZStsRGjvh3qmY0101C8MpC3G7Rsbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com><D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home><CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com><ACB45E1D-AC87-4EBA-A3E1-63F07A91B866@chartermi.net>
	<CAL0QtVdHe-mUPH60RxaHjZStsRGjvh3qmY0101C8MpC3G7Rsbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1A717E56F6E64836B47E9320E162D3E5@spider>

You should'a seen it in 1957; yes, you could really see the air in L.A.
...bill in oregon
=========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:13 PM
To: Rick Fisk
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

As a native wanting to move back home to California I love California Air ;
)
Lin

=======================================================
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> I've got some Bugeye wheels that were last aired up about 1970.  Still
holding
> pressure.  Not NOS, but vintage California air.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets at autox.team.net
>
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From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Sat Jul 28 15:23:06 2012
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:23:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Try Tampa Bay Florida - August 27-30   :-)
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:47 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 28 16:17:55 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:17:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1343513875.84978.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I think this was the Smokey Yunick bugeye where he filled the tires with NOS
and ran tubes through the rims and eventually into the SUs.  Added 50 hp until
the tires went flat.

 
Rick


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________________________________
 From: Jim
Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: 
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent:
Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has
been "quiet"
 
Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sat Jul 28 20:26:47 2012
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:26:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MGs in Crossville TN
Message-ID: <E620360CB78B49BBA9EFC8BDE1318127@Dell9200>

This was in my club inbox when I got home tonight.  I don't know anything 
about it but if anybody is interested I will try to get you in touch.
Crossville is between Nashville and Knoxville TN on I 40.
Mark
Nashville


From: George Rector [mailto:a62vwbodmn at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:40 PM
To: MG at bunnellfamily.com
Cc: a62vwbodmn at yahoo.com
Subject: mg parts

I have the mg parts, 4 mg midgets 71 -74 one is the wire wheel type, other 3 
are steel wheel all have engines,trans,rear ends, I believe we have titles 
for these.The mgbs are the 73 gt and 2 -69 mgbs; also have the 77 mgb that 
is painted and has interior done.The price for it 2,500 it runs.The gt is 
1,500 as is,but should run. The new rebuilt engine in the 69 mgb is  150. 
There are so many parts that people will just have to call me at 931 335 
8045, or send an e-mail..Thanks hope you can get the word out..




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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 10:31:39 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:31:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupVn+71t1zfvgbB-BsKJw9mXodF8C3_0yGQVLsKM5iDJA@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone else bothered by the ad Scion currently runs?  Directly quoted it
says, "The world's first and only horizontally opposed boxer engine."

Porsche, VW, Tucker and a number of motorcycles come to mind....

How do they get away with this?

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living
are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

From dxcamp at bsink.com  Sun Jul 29 11:47:17 2012
From: dxcamp at bsink.com (David Camp)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:47:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupVn+71t1zfvgbB-BsKJw9mXodF8C3_0yGQVLsKM5iDJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJgjnupVn+71t1zfvgbB-BsKJw9mXodF8C3_0yGQVLsKM5iDJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <045601cd6db2$32401840$96c048c0$@bsink.com>

I just wish that they had put one in my 1st gen toaster (Xb). It won't even
get out of its own way.


Dave in Kent OH


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:32 AM
To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion

Is anyone else bothered by the ad Scion currently runs?  Directly quoted it
says, "The world's first and only horizontally opposed boxer engine."

Porsche, VW, Tucker and a number of motorcycles come to mind....

How do they get away with this?

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org> Yup.
I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 29 10:54:38 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:54:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupVn+71t1zfvgbB-BsKJw9mXodF8C3_0yGQVLsKM5iDJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJgjnupVn+71t1zfvgbB-BsKJw9mXodF8C3_0yGQVLsKM5iDJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A52D5C5AD7D46459F3023505D11CA52@spider>

I heard that too. Maybe it's a fore-and-aft opposed engine? 
I don't think anybody cares if they're stretching a point. We've been dumbed
down by puffery in advertising toooo long. "Somewhere, west of Laramie...."
http://uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/robertshistory/somewhere_west_of_laramie.htm
...bill in oregon
==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:32 AM
To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion

Is anyone else bothered by the ad Scion currently runs?  Directly quoted it
says, "The world's first and only horizontally opposed boxer engine."

Porsche, VW, Tucker and a number of motorcycles come to mind....

How do they get away with this?

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Jul 29 11:03:50 2012
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:03:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <15E3702D95034BE5B9021A5CBE297111@mail2world.com>

I have a '77 Midget that was a 30th birthday gift from my wife in 2001.
It's been on the road (more or less) since about 2003. It's got a
California 1500 in it with flat top pistons, twin HS4's and a TSI 275
cam.

I have a 75 Cosworth Vega that hasn't run since 2009 - injectors don't
get a signal and I don't know why. Looking to sell the car.

Daily is a 2000 Ranger and the wife drives a 2009 WRX. That's a fun car!

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Kevin Valentine [kevinv1275 at gmail.com]
>Sent: 7/24/2012 6:22:16 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>
>OK,
>
>71 Midget (Red) - My driver
>74 Midget (About to change color) Kathy's driver
>74 Bugeye nosed Midget (Yellow) Son's driver
>73/74 Midget Current Project
>69 Midget Next project
>66 Midget with a Bugeye nose (about ready to be gifted)
>74 Midget (rolling shell)
>95 Grand Cherokee
>91 Jetta
>95 F150
>93 Chevy G20 conversion van
>
>Kevin V.
>Tuscarora, Pa
>
>
>
>On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
>
>> Good idea Trevor.
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 29 11:12:58 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupVn+71t1zfvgbB-BsKJw9mXodF8C3_0yGQVLsKM5iDJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJgjnupVn+71t1zfvgbB-BsKJw9mXodF8C3_0yGQVLsKM5iDJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1343581978.24474.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

... because the rest of the sentence is ... "...    utilizing Toyota's D4-S
direct and port injection system." 


 
Rick


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________________________________
 From: Jim
Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Yahoo
Spridget list <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012
12:31 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
 
Is anyone else bothered
by the ad Scion currently runs?  Directly quoted it
says, "The world's first
and only horizontally opposed boxer engine."

Porsche, VW, Tucker and a number
of motorcycles come to mind....

How do they get away with this?

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jul 29 11:13:32 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:13:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

I'd like some NOS smoke for the electrical system!




> Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires?

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 11:17:44 2012
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:17:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-87=PC7oXrXoQcZmpy87RbOWPVyGWgYKF55Yeuox=oqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Once you let the magic smoke out it takes a specialist to put it back in.

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Jul 29 11:40:24 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:40:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
Message-ID: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>

On the rear attachment for the radius arm does the spacer go on the inboard or
outboard side of the bush?
Thanks.

Phil Nase
Applebachsville, PA
http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/

From peter at nosimport.com  Sun Jul 29 15:16:56 2012
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
In-Reply-To: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20120729211659.EC95D9A4162@mx2.netinteraction.com>

I don't have one nearby, but the intention is that the rods are 
entirely perpendicular to the axis of the axle. So, whatever that 
takes. They should not be "loaded" in any way.
    Peter C
--
At 12:40 PM 7/29/2012, Phil Nase wrote:
>On the rear attachment for the radius arm does the spacer go on the inboard or
>outboard side of the bush?
>Thanks.
>
>Phil Nase
>Applebachsville, PA
>http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jul 29 15:35:57 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:35:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7-87=PC7oXrXoQcZmpy87RbOWPVyGWgYKF55Yeuox=oqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<CAEAAx7-87=PC7oXrXoQcZmpy87RbOWPVyGWgYKF55Yeuox=oqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5015ACBD.4090500@wi.net>

Yup.  Guess I'll have to get an NOS Lucas Smokeometer.


On 7/29/2012 12:17 PM, derf wrote:
> Once you let the magic smoke out it takes a specialist to put it back in.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jul 29 16:26:57 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:26:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
In-Reply-To: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net>

Hi Phil,

Great questions that needs list input.

#17606's spacers are mounted at the axle end of the top link (only end 
it can go) and INBOARD of the link.  I remember going through the same 
quandary as AKD 3566 Plate L1 Page ML 2
makes it look like they should be outboard.  The only way mine would fit 
and measure square (perpendicular as Peter said) is on the inboard 
side.  Please correct me if this in not right.

This is when I found out that the right rear wheel looked like it was 
out closer to the wheel well lip than the left side.  Anyone else run 
into this??  Whatever, the car tracks straight and doesn't pull and the 
tires wore evenly.
I figured The Works offset the axle to one side to compensate for the 
massive torque steer from my stock 948!  ;-)

Dave W.


On 7/29/2012 12:40 PM, Phil Nase wrote:
> On the rear attachment for the radius arm does the spacer go on the inboard or
> outboard side of the bush?
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Applebachsville, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jul 29 16:30:17 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
In-Reply-To: <5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
	<5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net>
Message-ID: <5015B979.9060606@wi.net>

Please delete one of the "s" 's from either "questions" or 
"needs"....can't type and watch the Olympics at the same time!  :(

On 7/29/2012 5:26 PM, dwoerpel wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> Great questions that needs list input.
>
> #17606's spacers are mounted at the axle end of the top link (only end 
> it can go) and INBOARD of the link.  I remember going through the same 
> quandary as AKD 3566 Plate L1 Page ML 2
> makes it look like they should be outboard.  The only way mine would 
> fit and measure square (perpendicular as Peter said) is on the inboard 
> side.  Please correct me if this in not right.
>
> This is when I found out that the right rear wheel looked like it was 
> out closer to the wheel well lip than the left side.  Anyone else run 
> into this??  Whatever, the car tracks straight and doesn't pull and 
> the tires wore evenly.
> I figured The Works offset the axle to one side to compensate for the 
> massive torque steer from my stock 948!  ;-)
>
> Dave W.
>
>
> On 7/29/2012 12:40 PM, Phil Nase wrote:
>> On the rear attachment for the radius arm does the spacer go on the 
>> inboard or
>> outboard side of the bush?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Applebachsville, PA
>> http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/
> ------------------------
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 29 16:47:23 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
In-Reply-To: <5015B979.9060606@wi.net>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
	<5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net> <5015B979.9060606@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1343602043.47183.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

If badminton qualifies as an Olympic event, can typing and watching TV at the
same time be far behind?

 
Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:
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________________________________
 From: dwoerpel
<dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012
6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
 
Please
delete one of the "s" 's from either "questions" or "needs"....can't type and
watch the Olympics at the same time!  :(

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 29 16:55:16 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:55:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics
In-Reply-To: <1343602043.47183.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net><5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net>
	<5015B979.9060606@wi.net>
	<1343602043.47183.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <301A9FE9179A4EA8A88B9E8649278FE9@spider>

Keyboarding and Channel Surfing.
...bill
=============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:47 PM
To: dwoerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question

If badminton qualifies as an Olympic event, can typing and watching TV at
the same time be far behind?

 
Rick

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 17:08:23 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:08:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics
In-Reply-To: <301A9FE9179A4EA8A88B9E8649278FE9@spider>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
	<5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net> <5015B979.9060606@wi.net>
	<1343602043.47183.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<301A9FE9179A4EA8A88B9E8649278FE9@spider>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuq_TEJTW8KordOttFcGOC--pC3vxJkDfQ_SKLuFCMC6LA@mail.gmail.com>

A number of retired baseball players have proposed Olympic Crotch
Scratching.....

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Keyboarding and Channel Surfing.
> ...bill
> =============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:47 PM
> To: dwoerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
>
> If badminton qualifies as an Olympic event, can typing and watching TV at
> the same time be far behind?
>
>
> Rick
> ------------------------
>
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living
are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 29 17:24:12 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:24:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuq_TEJTW8KordOttFcGOC--pC3vxJkDfQ_SKLuFCMC6LA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net><5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net><5015B979.9060606@wi.net><1343602043.47183.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><301A9FE9179A4EA8A88B9E8649278FE9@spider>
	<CAJgjnuq_TEJTW8KordOttFcGOC--pC3vxJkDfQ_SKLuFCMC6LA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7B97D52E777543EC86D8F7A625DCF42B@spider>

. Spitting.   bill

 

  _____  

From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:08 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Olympics

 

A number of retired baseball players have proposed Olympic Crotch
Scratching.....

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

Keyboarding and Channel Surfing.
...bill
=============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:47 PM
To: dwoerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question

If badminton qualifies as an Olympic event, can typing and watching TV at
the same time be far behind?

Rick
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Dodge City Trail <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>  of Fame 
Electronic Journal of Severe <http://www.EJSSM.org>  Storms Meteorology
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

"The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living
are outnumbered by those who vote for a living."

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 17:28:43 2012
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:28:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics
In-Reply-To: <7B97D52E777543EC86D8F7A625DCF42B@spider>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
	<5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net> <5015B979.9060606@wi.net>
	<1343602043.47183.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<301A9FE9179A4EA8A88B9E8649278FE9@spider>
	<CAJgjnuq_TEJTW8KordOttFcGOC--pC3vxJkDfQ_SKLuFCMC6LA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7B97D52E777543EC86D8F7A625DCF42B@spider>
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competitive beer drinking. Like BeerFest, but on a world wide scale.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:24 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> . Spitting.   bill
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:08 PM
> To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Olympics
>
>
>
> A number of retired baseball players have proposed Olympic Crotch
> Scratching.....
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:55 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> Keyboarding and Channel Surfing.
> ...bill
> =============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:47 PM
> To: dwoerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
>
> If badminton qualifies as an Olympic event, can typing and watching TV at
> the same time be far behind?
>
> Rick
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> Electronic Journal of Severe <http://www.EJSSM.org>  Storms Meteorology
> Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> "The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living
> are outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jul 29 17:37:23 2012
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:37:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics
In-Reply-To: <301A9FE9179A4EA8A88B9E8649278FE9@spider>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net><5015B8B1.6030702@wi.net>
	<5015B979.9060606@wi.net>
	<1343602043.47183.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<301A9FE9179A4EA8A88B9E8649278FE9@spider>
Message-ID: <5015C933.9020002@justbrits.com>

Sorry Bill, but your "suggestions" need modifying inorder to be "correct".

<< On 7/29/2012 5:55 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

Keyboarding and Channel Surfing.  >>

1st, it would be "Boarding, Key" as there is a 'boarding' "Event category" !

2nd, it would be "Surfing, Channel" as there is a 'Surfing' "Event category" !

One should never Post incorrect data, please !

PPPP

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 29 19:14:57 2012
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:14:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure question
Message-ID: <1343610897.68485.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

My car has been loosing oil pressure if i drive at 70mph very long.
At first i thought it may be the oil pressure release valve.
But it seems to be working at lower speeds.
It starts at 60lbs at start when cold.
Then runs at 40lbs as long as i do not run over 50mph.
What is a acceptable drop in oil pressure.
Mine at 70 mph drops to just over 20 lbs.
I am wondering what others have for oil pressure after rinning at these
speeds.
I am not running an oil cooler on the motor.
My water temp is close to the N for normal on the gauge.
The lower end was done in the last 1000 miles. New bearings.
The crank was not warn and the bearing were in need of replacing but not
gone.
When the motor was put together the crank was not turned just new bearings.
After the car cools down it runs at 40lbs again until i go high speed again.
Is this common with a 1275cc motor?
If not - any guesses on what is going on with the oil pressure.  
 
Vigil

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Jul 29 19:58:33 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:58:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter elliptic cars question
In-Reply-To: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
References: <BB7C6D93-E046-400E-B8EF-21F7FE33BFF3@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <2FD2422C-862C-481E-B8F1-B4991D7A0F93@verizon.net>

Thanks for all the good advice on the radius arm spacer location.  I did mount
them inboard which made the arm more square to the rear axle.  I have plenty
of tire clearance.  Also, does anyone know why Vicky Brit shows 4 spacers
needed in their catelog.  I can only fit one per side on my car and I have the
originals.

I also moved the right side spring to the left side to see if a tap or knock
like noise would follow it to the other side.  It did so I guess I'm gonna
take them apart to see what I can find out.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jul 29, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> On the rear attachment for the radius arm does the spacer go on the inboard
or
> outboard side of the bush?
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Applebachsville, PA
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From jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Sun Jul 29 19:51:01 2012
From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:51:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure question
In-Reply-To: <1343610897.68485.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1343610897.68485.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5015E885.5020702@bak.rr.com>

Are  you running 20-50 oil?        Did you replace your oil pump?


On 7/29/2012 6:14 PM, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> My car has been loosing oil pressure if i drive at 70mph very long.
> At first i thought it may be the oil pressure release valve.
> But it seems to be working at lower speeds.
> It starts at 60lbs at start when cold.
> Then runs at 40lbs as long as i do not run over 50mph.
> What is a acceptable drop in oil pressure.
> Mine at 70 mph drops to just over 20 lbs.
> I am wondering what others have for oil pressure after rinning at these
> speeds.
> I am not running an oil cooler on the motor.
> My water temp is close to the N for normal on the gauge.
> The lower end was done in the last 1000 miles. New bearings.
> The crank was not warn and the bearing were in need of replacing but not
> gone.
> When the motor was put together the crank was not turned just new bearings.
> After the car cools down it runs at 40lbs again until i go high speed again.
> Is this common with a 1275cc motor?
> If not - any guesses on what is going on with the oil pressure.
>   
> Vigil
> ------------------------

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Jul 29 20:17:52 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:17:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <5015ACBD.4090500@wi.net>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<CAEAAx7-87=PC7oXrXoQcZmpy87RbOWPVyGWgYKF55Yeuox=oqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5015ACBD.4090500@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1D577F65-BD63-4BE7-969F-4C31EABDDAC3@verizon.net>

There are only 3 Smoke Gauges that I know of and those guys I'm sure aren't
giving them up.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/


On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:35 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Yup.  Guess I'll have to get an NOS Lucas Smokeometer.
>
>
> On 7/29/2012 12:17 PM, derf wrote:
>> Once you let the magic smoke out it takes a specialist to put it back in.
> ------------------------

From biffjones at verizon.net  Sun Jul 29 20:34:17 2012
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:34:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Smoke Gauges
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home><CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com><36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net><CAEAAx7-87=PC7oXrXoQcZmpy87RbOWPVyGWgYKF55Yeuox=oqQ@mail.gmail.com><5015ACBD.4090500@wi.net>
	<1D577F65-BD63-4BE7-969F-4C31EABDDAC3@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <F48CAF47FD1F44D1A3C3EB418962E91F@dell1>

Phil,

You forgot to mention that the Lucas smoke gauges are prototypes. Hence they 
never went into production and only the three prototypes exist.

Biff 

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jul 29 20:51:26 2012
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:51:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <1D577F65-BD63-4BE7-969F-4C31EABDDAC3@verizon.net>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<CAEAAx7-87=PC7oXrXoQcZmpy87RbOWPVyGWgYKF55Yeuox=oqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5015ACBD.4090500@wi.net>
	<1D577F65-BD63-4BE7-969F-4C31EABDDAC3@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <37991.173.111.227.40.1343616686.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Shoulda had Frank make me one!  I just might have to one myself.

I got extra spacers too.  There is only one/side.  I had a clunk in one of
my springs(15 leaf type) turned out one of the clamps was loose.  I don't
think this applies to your case but the bolt holes in the mounting plate
can enlarge.
DW


There are only 3 Smoke Gauges that I know of and those guys I'm sure
> aren't giving them up.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:35 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
>
>> Yup.  Guess I'll have to get an NOS Lucas Smokeometer.
>>
>>
>> On 7/29/2012 12:17 PM, derf wrote:
>>> Once you let the magic smoke out it takes a specialist to put it back
>>> in.
>> ------------------------

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 29 22:31:48 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:31:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo stopped working
In-Reply-To: <1015856424.20120725034507@pacifier.com>
References: <A7DCDF857CBA4A7DA381EA5F0B0E0D2F@Thinkpad>
	<1015856424.20120725034507@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <49C664C9263B497ABA0B925C818F9621@Thinkpad>

Well, I finally got around to doing a little trouble shooting this
afternoon.

The geared adapter had unscrewed from the tranny.  

I put back on, took it out for a spin, but still no speedo action.
I play again tommorrow evening.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill L [mailto:pythias at pacifier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:45 AM
To: Dean Hedin
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedo stopped working

Hello Dean,

     First test it to unplug the cable from the back of the speedo and
     take a drive. Feel if the end of the cable itself is turning.
     That will at least let you know if its the speedo itself, or the
     other direction to focus your efforts on...

     IF it's the cable, that can be repaired, in place. I'll have to
     have a look, at mine to remember, but it was a trick Frank C.
     passed along. If you have to REPLACE the cable, there's another
     trick .... but if you have to replace the gear drive, it'll most
     likely mean an engine pull to effect the repair....

     Good luck... I hope its just the speedo.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
   "I prefer unlined gloves," Tom deferred.

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 23:06:48 2012
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:06:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure question
In-Reply-To: <1343610897.68485.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1343610897.68485.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0wzOu=VLvEcWAS_ygy9NT6WcANQ+WTnNc+WN6=2hMz0Uw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:14 PM,  <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:
If not - any guesses on what is going on with the oil pressure.
------------------------
Your crank journals are a little egg shaped and once the oil heats up
and thins out, your pressure drops... I had a 1098 engine that did the
exact same thing  but dropped to about 5 lbs of pressure when it got
good and hot. Ran like a scalded ape but that pressure reading always
freaked me out!

Turn the crank and fit the appropriate sized bearings and it will be
fixed. Or, put a thicker oil in it and run it until it blows or you
get used to seeing the needle so low...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From billyj at txjames.com  Sun Jul 29 23:49:19 2012
From: billyj at txjames.com (Billy J.)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:49:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm back on the list
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0wzOu=VLvEcWAS_ygy9NT6WcANQ+WTnNc+WN6=2hMz0Uw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1343610897.68485.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CA+Xq+0wzOu=VLvEcWAS_ygy9NT6WcANQ+WTnNc+WN6=2hMz0Uw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5016205F.5090005@txjames.com>

I was on the list previously as bjshov8.  Now I'm back through our new 
email service.

(We had Time Warner cable but the service was so bad that we finally 
switched to Verizon FIOS.  The internet service and TV are very good, 
but Verizon's customer support is not so good.  I was never able to get 
an email account functional through Verizon so I just got my own domain 
and independent hosting service.)

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Mon Jul 30 03:27:18 2012
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:27:18 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re:  OT... TV ad for Scion
Message-ID: <CAN4UhU+GdE6io6YhnoPP0BW5TgQua-mTKKMshVaW9ek3xb6X3w@mail.gmail.com>

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:54:38 -0700
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
Message-ID: <4A52D5C5AD7D46459F3023505D11CA52 at spider>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I heard that too. Maybe it's a fore-and-aft opposed engine?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Douglas motorcycle certainly (and possibly a vintage Ducati )  had fore
and aft boxer engines

there's nothing  new when it comes to engines  it's all been tried before !

Alan
Warwick UK

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 30 06:18:53 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:18:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
Message-ID: <0ndqltif6mkpm43n7kngjfu4.1343650733998@email.android.com>

I was just talking about this to a friend last night. What they've done is pot a period into the reading when the written text had or was supposed to have a comma. The next line says "with direct fuel injection..."

If they had read the chippy of the add correctly, it would be a true statement. The FRS (and the BRZ) are in fact the first-ever direct injection horizontally-opposed for-bangers.B 

Apparently niether the advertising people, or the marketing types at Scion are smart enough to realize the mistake yet.
advertising

-David

>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

Is anyone else bothered by the ad Scion currently runs?B  Directly quoted it
says, "The world's first and only horizontally opposed boxer engine."

Porsche, VW, Tucker and a number of motorcycles come to mind....

How do they get away with this?

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.B  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 30 06:53:09 2012
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:53:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
Message-ID: <gw9rduwep7ur9jcuutl0q81d.1343652789663@email.android.com>

In case you can't tell, I suck at typing on my phone... My computer has been out of service for a little over a week, so all my personal B emails are at lunch from work (except I'm on vaca...) or via my Samsung phone. The phone really likes writing what it thinks I meant rather than what I intended, and I apparently can not proof worth a crap on this tiny screen.B 

So... please understand that I actually do know how to compose a sentence or paragraph in proper English. My fat finger just has trouble getting it done via the available equipment!
- David


>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

Tncarnut1 <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

I was just talking about this to a friend last night. What they've done is pot a period into the reading when the written text had or was supposed to have a comma. The next line says "with direct fuel injection..."

If they had read the chippy of the add correctly, it would be a true statement. The FRS (and the BRZ) are in fact the first-ever direct injection horizontally-opposed for-bangers.B 

Apparently niether the advertising people, or the marketing types at Scion are smart enough to realize the mistake yet.
advertising

-David

>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

Is anyone else bothered by the ad Scion currently runs?BB  Directly quoted it
says, "The world's first and only horizontally opposed boxer engine."

Porsche, VW, Tucker and a number of motorcycles come to mind....

How do they get away with this?

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jul 30 06:57:25 2012
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:57:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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 > I had a clunk in one of my springs(15 leaf type) turned out one of the 
clamps was loose.

I had the same.  They can be tight, then shift under vibration.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget 

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 09:00:06 2012
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:00:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <15E3702D95034BE5B9021A5CBE297111@mail2world.com>
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Hey, Chris,

Can you fit the Cosworth engine in a Spridget? That twin cam should be good.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Chris King <cbking at alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

> I have a '77 Midget that was a 30th birthday gift from my wife in 2001.
> It's been on the road (more or less) since about 2003. It's got a
> California 1500 in it with flat top pistons, twin HS4's and a TSI 275
> cam.
>
> I have a 75 Cosworth Vega that hasn't run since 2009 - injectors don't
> get a signal and I don't know why. Looking to sell the car.
>
> Daily is a 2000 Ranger and the wife drives a 2009 WRX. That's a fun car!
>
> -=Chris
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul 30 10:00:04 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:00:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OtsxQwTCiTKt8ELsa_+xL3yD4DscTT5NH6jUyycMvvj5Q@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAMEj5OtsxQwTCiTKt8ELsa_+xL3yD4DscTT5NH6jUyycMvvj5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FF070496C8E64ECDB0CF277BC156BAA4@spider>

I believe there were problems with the inline-four with die-cast aluminum
alloy cylinder block; the rings wouldn't seat and oil consumption became a
problem. Porsche got it right years later. ...bill
===============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Hefner
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:00 AM
To: Spridgets list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

Hey, Chris,

Can you fit the Cosworth engine in a Spridget? That twin cam should be good.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget

=========================================================================

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Chris King <cbking at alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

> I have a '77 Midget that was a 30th birthday gift from my wife in 2001.
> It's been on the road (more or less) since about 2003. It's got a
> California 1500 in it with flat top pistons, twin HS4's and a TSI 275
> cam.
>
> I have a 75 Cosworth Vega that hasn't run since 2009 - injectors don't
> get a signal and I don't know why. Looking to sell the car.
>
> Daily is a 2000 Ranger and the wife drives a 2009 WRX. That's a fun car!
>
> -=Chris
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 10:55:19 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:55:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: OT... TV ad for Scion
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Amen, Alan.   The Scion ad is misleading at best and flat wrong at worst.

Cheers!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:27 AM, EASTJONES alan <
alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:54:38 -0700
> From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
> Message-ID: <4A52D5C5AD7D46459F3023505D11CA52 at spider>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> I heard that too. Maybe it's a fore-and-aft opposed engine?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> The Douglas motorcycle certainly (and possibly a vintage Ducati )  had fore
> and aft boxer engines
>
> there's nothing  new when it comes to engines  it's all been tried before !
>
> Alan
> Warwick UK
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 11:11:32 2012
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:11:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: OT... TV ad for Scion
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OK, but if you go buy the car only to find out it is not the "first" ,
"only", whatever ... does that hurt the value of the car?
And who would buy a car just because it id the "first", "only" ...
whatever?
It is a lousy commercial.  I'm glad they are making this type of car and I
wish them success.

-T

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Amen, Alan.   The Scion ad is misleading at best and flat wrong at worst.
>
> Cheers!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:27 AM, EASTJONES alan <
> alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:54:38 -0700
> > From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> > To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT... TV ad for Scion
> > Message-ID: <4A52D5C5AD7D46459F3023505D11CA52 at spider>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > I heard that too. Maybe it's a fore-and-aft opposed engine?
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > The Douglas motorcycle certainly (and possibly a vintage Ducati )  had
> fore
> > and aft boxer engines
> >
> > there's nothing  new when it comes to engines  it's all been tried
> before !
> >
> > Alan
> > Warwick UK
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> High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
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> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
> Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
> bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
>  The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living
> are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul 30 11:33:22 2012
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:33:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] being in a zone
In-Reply-To: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1343387030.65555.YahooMailNeo@web124903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5AC5CBD2A95B4A1D8419F9B4511299BE@spider>

(from Popular Science, June 2012 p.68)

".brief discussion of flow, a notion developed by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
(me-high chick-sent-me-high). This Hungarian-American psychologist holds
that there is a very satisfying state of mind that occurs when one is
totally absorbed by an action. . We all experience flow. It doesn't require
special meditative skills, only the love of doing something so much so that
one gets lost in the labor."  

 

Sounds like working on Spridgets?  .bill in oregon

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul 30 12:18:07 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:18:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] being in a zone
In-Reply-To: <5AC5CBD2A95B4A1D8419F9B4511299BE@spider>
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This past weekend I didn't flow.  I've been crewing for John Deikis and his
'68 Midget "Works Racer" for many, many years.  We went to the Waterford Hills
Raceway vintage race last weekend and I didn't have to turn a wrench all
weekend.  First time EVER we had a weekend like that!!!!!  And he finished
first in class.  John was into the flow on the track, but the rest of the time
we sat around and drank tea.  No flow for me and I loved it.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:33 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> (from Popular Science, June 2012 p.68)
>
> ".brief discussion of flow, a notion developed by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
> (me-high chick-sent-me-high). This Hungarian-American psychologist holds
> that there is a very satisfying state of mind that occurs when one is
> totally absorbed by an action. . We all experience flow. It doesn't require
> special meditative skills, only the love of doing something so much so that
> one gets lost in the labor."
>
>
>
> Sounds like working on Spridgets?  .bill in oregon
> ------------------------

From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 12:44:31 2012
From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:44:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] being in a zone
In-Reply-To: <E786BDBB-0ABB-4339-A416-A886E6E97597@chartermi.net>
References: <1343387030.65555.YahooMailNeo@web124903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><5AC5CBD2A95B4A1D8419F9B4511299BE@spider>
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Rick,  I gotta correct you.  John D. finished 2nd in class. He was classed 
2a. First in class was a Bugeye 948.  Third in class (less than 2 sec. 
behind JohnD) another Bugeye 948.
Just saying.   But I will say, Why did they put a 1275 Midget in the same 
class as the 948 Bugeyes??
It was a great week-end of vintage rac

Jeff Kelly

-----Original Message----- 
From: Rick Fisk
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:18 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] being in a zone

This past weekend I didn't flow.  I've been crewing for John Deikis and his
'68 Midget "Works Racer" for many, many years.  We went to the Waterford 
Hills
Raceway vintage race last weekend and I didn't have to turn a wrench all
weekend.  First time EVER we had a weekend like that!!!!!  And he finished
first in class.  John was into the flow on the track, but the rest of the 
time
we sat around and drank tea.  No flow for me and I loved it.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:33 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> (from Popular Science, June 2012 p.68)
>
> ".brief discussion of flow, a notion developed by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
> (me-high chick-sent-me-high). This Hungarian-American psychologist holds
> that there is a very satisfying state of mind that occurs when one is
> totally absorbed by an action. . We all experience flow. It doesn't 
> require
> special meditative skills, only the love of doing something so much so 
> that
> one gets lost in the labor."
>
>
>
> Sounds like working on Spridgets?  .bill in oregon
> ------------------------
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Jul 30 13:15:37 2012
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:15:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] being in a zone
In-Reply-To: <0DF39F4623654C1A9FCBA0DCDA3F31A0@Snoopy>
References: <1343387030.65555.YahooMailNeo@web124903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><5AC5CBD2A95B4A1D8419F9B4511299BE@spider>
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	<0DF39F4623654C1A9FCBA0DCDA3F31A0@Snoopy>
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Just a guess, but possibly due to the difference in weight.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
61 Innocenti 950 Spider
63 Pink Sprite Mk II





________________________________
From: JeffG-Mail <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com>

Why did they put a 1275 Midget in the same class as the 948 Bugeyes??

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul 30 13:23:11 2012
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:23:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] being in a zone
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	<5AC5CBD2A95B4A1D8419F9B4511299BE@spider>
	<E786BDBB-0ABB-4339-A416-A886E6E97597@chartermi.net>
	<0DF39F4623654C1A9FCBA0DCDA3F31A0@Snoopy>
Message-ID: <F815BB32-5118-4496-9834-37646C60C346@chartermi.net>

Saturday was the real race and he finished first.  Even got a major award from
the race steward.  :-)


Sent from my keyboard

On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:44 PM, "JeffG-Mail" <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick,  I gotta correct you.  John D. finished 2nd in class. He was classed
2a. First in class was a Bugeye 948.  Third in class (less than 2 sec. behind
JohnD) another Bugeye 948.
> Just saying.   But I will say, Why did they put a 1275 Midget in the same
class as the 948 Bugeyes??
> It was a great week-end of vintage rac
>
> Jeff Kelly

From jrkitchens at roadrunner.com  Mon Jul 30 13:10:24 2012
From: jrkitchens at roadrunner.com (jrkitchens at roadrunner.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:10:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California car,
	overheating question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3936.1343616539.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20120730191025.ZJ28S.1480.root@cdptpa-web07-z01>

My '66 Sprite, stock 1275, has an overheating problem or anyway the gauge shows that it is getting hot. What might some of the things to look for, maybe unique? All fluids are full. Radiator is getting hot - thermostat is working. Runs fine, does not seem to have an engine problem.  Suggestions?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 14:42:55 2012
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:42:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California car,
 overheating question
In-Reply-To: <20120730191025.ZJ28S.1480.root@cdptpa-web07-z01>
References: <mailman.3936.1343616539.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<20120730191025.ZJ28S.1480.root@cdptpa-web07-z01>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoCUPs3GaRpW0Vw+U6E+rmiqoztaJMinJ3s0pXasDa2dw@mail.gmail.com>

Radiator may have a leak so it doesn't pressurize properly?
Radiator core may need boiled out (channels plugged)?
Wrong thermostat?
Leaking radiator hose (how old are they?)
Water pump problems?

Just a few ideas...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM, <jrkitchens at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> My '66 Sprite, stock 1275, has an overheating problem or anyway the gauge
> shows that it is getting hot. What might some of the things to look for,
> maybe unique? All fluids are full. Radiator is getting hot - thermostat is
> working. Runs fine, does not seem to have an engine problem.  Suggestions?
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 30 15:15:57 2012
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:15:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] being in a zone
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Reports from Spridgetech are that John was flying! The comment was also made
that he didn't hit anyone, either. Speed AND accuracy!
 
Ron Soave
Roscoe, IL
"It only goes one way."
"Pay it forward."


>________________________________
> From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
>To: JeffG-Mail
<jeffsbugeye at gmail.com> 
>Cc: "<spridgets at autox.team.net>"
<spridgets at autox.team.net> 
>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:23 PM
>Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] being in a zone
> 
>Saturday was the real race and he finished
first.  Even got a major award from
>the race steward.  :-)
>
>
>Sent from my
keyboard
>
>On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:44 PM, "JeffG-Mail" <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Rick,  I gotta correct you.  John D. finished 2nd in class. He was
classed
>2a. First in class was a Bugeye 948.  Third in class (less than 2
sec. behind
>JohnD) another Bugeye 948.
>> Just saying.   But I will say, Why
did they put a 1275 Midget in the same
>class as the 948 Bugeyes??
>> It was a
great week-end of vintage rac
>>
>> Jeff Kelly
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 30 15:19:45 2012
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:19:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California car,
 overheating question
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Although it is running fine, you may also want to run a compression check.
Sometimes you can get a failure of the head gasket between #2 and #3 that
won't be very detectable from a seat-of-the-pants aspect. It will eventually
get obvious. You will also want to verify that your timing isn't
over-advanced.
 
Ron Soave
Roscoe, IL


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>________________________________
> From: Jim Johnson
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>To: 
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net 
>Sent: Monday, July
30, 2012 3:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California
car, overheating question
> 
>Radiator may have a leak so it doesn't
pressurize properly?
>Radiator core may need boiled out (channels plugged)?
>Wrong thermostat?
>Leaking radiator hose (how old are they?)
>Water pump
problems?
>
>Just a few ideas...
>
>Cheers!!
>Jim
>
>On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at
2:10 PM, <jrkitchens at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> My '66 Sprite, stock 1275,
has an overheating problem or anyway the gauge
>> shows that it is getting
hot. What might some of the things to look for,
>> maybe unique? All fluids
are full. Radiator is getting hot - thermostat is
>> working. Runs fine, does
not seem to have an engine problem.  Suggestions?
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From johnsfolly at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 15:33:37 2012
From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (John Deikis)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:33:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Waterford Vintage Race
Message-ID: <4A3B3599-71D6-4E3F-A43F-B5C8DCA9FB70@gmail.com>

Great to see you and Don last weekend. And some great racing! That bugeye from
Canada certainly left us in the dust after I got out of his way but the Mini
Marcos surprised me with his inability to out-corner a Midget.
--JohnD

Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:52:14 -0500
From: "JeffG-Mail" <jeffsbugeye at gmail.com>
To: "JohnD" <johnsfolly at gmail.com>, "Spridgets"
   <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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   reply-type=original

JohnD, Will be at Waterford this weekend with son and his '59 BE 948.  Blue
with yellow numbers  #9 I think.
Jeff Kelly

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 30 18:09:39 2012
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:09:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California  car,
 overheating question
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I had a similar issue on my Bugeye. I was running around 195F-210F
Depending on how hot it was outsde.
Tried installing a 165F thermostat, no differnece.

Send the radiator out to get cleaned.  Most auto radiator places
don't even do this anymore.  Find a radiator place near the marinas
that works on boats.  They still work on brass radiators.

After he cleaned mine out I had a leak on one of the tubes.  The scaling
blockage previously was actually preventing it from leaking.

I isolated that tube out by drilling a tiny hole near the top and bottom of
the tube.  I then injected jb weld epoxy into the tube.  Still holding.

The cleaned out radiator made a huge difference.  It now holds 165F-175F
most of the time.  On a really hot day it might hit 185F.  

I also converted to the later 6 bladed polymer fan.  It eats more power and
Is a little noisy, but I would rather have the better cooling. 

You can also run water wetter in the coolant. 

>>
Subject: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California car,overheating
question

My '66 Sprite, stock 1275, has an overheating problem or anyway the gauge
shows that it is getting hot. What might some of the things to look for,
maybe unique? All fluids are full. Radiator is getting hot - thermostat is
working. Runs fine, does not seem to have an engine problem.  Suggestions?
------------------------

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jul 30 18:35:26 2012
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:35:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <678FECBCD1E84772826E71F2561BBFEC@mail2world.com>

Possibly with some surgery. I know of one guy who stuck one in a
Spitfire.

Of course, right now I wouldn't want to swap a running engine for a
non-running one... :)

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Allen Hefner [lbc77mg at gmail.com]
>Sent: 7/30/2012 11:02:06 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>
>Hey, Chris,
>
>Can you fit the Cosworth engine in a Spridget? That twin cam should be
good.
>
> Allen Hefner
>Norristown, PA
>
>*Current:*
>2006 Chebbie
>*Former:*
>1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
>1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
>1964 VW Type I
>1967 VW Type II
>1967 Rover 2000TC
>1977 MG Midget
>
>
>
>On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Chris King <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
wrote:
>
>> I have a '77 Midget that was a 30th birthday gift from my wife in
2001.
>> It's been on the road (more or less) since about 2003. It's got a
>> California 1500 in it with flat top pistons, twin HS4's and a TSI 275
>> cam.
>>
>> I have a 75 Cosworth Vega that hasn't run since 2009 - injectors
don't
>> get a signal and I don't know why. Looking to sell the car.
>>
>> Daily is a 2000 Ranger and the wife drives a 2009 WRX. That's a fun
car!
>>
>> -=Chris
>>
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>> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jul 30 18:42:26 2012
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:42:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
Message-ID: <5D9920A1149F4930A8103D8EC07FD2AC@mail2world.com>

Porsche (and Mercedes, for that matter) actually uses the same alloy as
GM did. The problems with the Vega were inadequate cooling and poor
materials for the valve seals which caused a lot of smoking from oil
burning. Typical for GM, they finally got it right just before they
killed off the car.

The Cosworth engine could have been a real screamer, but Cosworth
themselves needed GM to strengthen the block for racing. GM wouldn't do
it (it would drive up the cost of the standard Vega), so Cosworth lost
interest and GM finished off the design.

-=Chris

Chris King
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<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [corvallis at peoplepc.com]
>Sent: 7/30/2012 12:02:04 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>
>I believe there were problems with the inline-four with die-cast
aluminum
>alloy cylinder block; the rings wouldn't seat and oil consumption
became a
>problem. Porsche got it right years later. ...bill
>===============================================
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Hefner
>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:00 AM
>To: Spridgets list
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>
>Hey, Chris,
>
>Can you fit the Cosworth engine in a Spridget? That twin cam should be
good.
>
> Allen Hefner
>Norristown, PA
>
>*Current:*
>2006 Chebbie
>*Former:*
>1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
>1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
>1964 VW Type I
>1967 VW Type II
>1967 Rover 2000TC
>1977 MG Midget
>
>=======================================================================
==
>
>On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Chris King <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
wrote:
>
>> I have a '77 Midget that was a 30th birthday gift from my wife in
2001.
>> It's been on the road (more or less) since about 2003. It's got a
>> California 1500 in it with flat top pistons, twin HS4's and a TSI 275
>> cam.
>>
>> I have a 75 Cosworth Vega that hasn't run since 2009 - injectors
don't
>> get a signal and I don't know why. Looking to sell the car.
>>
>> Daily is a 2000 Ranger and the wife drives a 2009 WRX. That's a fun
car!
>>
>> -=Chris
>>
>> Chris King
>> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jul 30 20:40:54 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:40:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics for 
everyone's viewing if interested. http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger 
I think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I 
have another bugeye in the wings

Leo

] 

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 21:51:32 2012
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:51:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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I have seen Iris in person, and it is one of the best Bugeyes I have ever
seen.  Thanks for the pictures Leo.  I used several that I took at the
Keels and Wheels concours a few years back.

Brian

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:40 PM, <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics for
> everyone's viewing if interested. http://www.flickr.com/photos/**
> speichinger <http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger> I think she is
> going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I have another
> bugeye in the wings
>
> Leo
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jul 30 22:48:54 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:48:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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Actually it hasnbt been but then again she was stuck away for 5 years when
dealing with my wife's breast cancer.  The paint is nearly 13 years old and
still looks like the day she was painted.  I used all PPG products, and not
the cheapest either, but well worth the investment in high quality paint
materials.  After bringing her out of long term storage I did have to have the
shocks rebuilt (thanks Peter) and rebuilt all the brakes and clutch cylinders.
Other than that a good was has kept her pretty well preserved.  Three week she
took first in class at the British Car Week national concours meet in Hot
Springs AR and really pissed off some owners of MGAbs that were the
recipients of some high dollar checkbook restorations.

From: Michael MacLean
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:27 PM
To: spridgets ; 60bugeye at cebridge.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

      It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo.  Must be a lot of work to keep it
that way.
      Mike MacLean
      60 Sprite
      56 BN2
      02 Heritage Springer


      --- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
wrote:


        From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
        Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
        To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
        Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM


        Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics
for everyone's viewing if interested. http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger
I think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I have
another bugeye in the wings

        Leo

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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jul 30 22:59:30 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:59:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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I forgot to add that over the years many, many of the old timers on the list
contributed knowledge and leads / availability of rare parts during the course
of her restoration.  To those, Alan, George, Martin, Frank, Brad, Ed and
others, all I can say is thanks :)  It was a 24 year journey and if I sell her
it will be hard to part paths with her.

Leo

From: Michael MacLean
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:27 PM
To: spridgets ; 60bugeye at cebridge.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

      It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo.  Must be a lot of work to keep it
that way.
      Mike MacLean
      60 Sprite
      56 BN2
      02 Heritage Springer


      --- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
wrote:


        From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
        Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
        To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
        Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM


        Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics
for everyone's viewing if interested. http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger
I think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I have
another bugeye in the wings

        Leo

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From gmari2 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 31 07:56:28 2012
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:56:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
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Thanks Leo,
She's a beauty.  I hope all is ok with you.
George

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:59 AM, <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> I forgot to add that over the years many, many of the old timers on the
list
> contributed knowledge and leads / availability of rare parts during the
course
> of her restoration.  To those, Alan, George, Martin, Frank, Brad, Ed and
> others, all I can say is thanks :)  It was a 24 year journey and if I sell
her
> it will be hard to part paths with her.
>
> Leo
>
> From: Michael MacLean
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:27 PM
> To: spridgets ; 60bugeye at cebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>
>      It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo.  Must be a lot of work to keep it
> that way.
>      Mike MacLean
>      60 Sprite
>      56 BN2
>      02 Heritage Springer
>
>
>      --- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>        From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
>        Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
>        To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>        Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM
>
>
>        Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's
pics
> for everyone's viewing if interested.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger
> I think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I
have
> another bugeye in the wings
>
>        Leo
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Mon Jul 30 22:27:45 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:27:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <E0904D14318E4ED6A6EFAAC4367D90F4@leosHP>
Message-ID: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo.  Must be a lot of work to keep it that
way.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer


--- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM

Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics for
everyone's viewing if interested. http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger I
think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I have
another bugeye in the wings

Leo

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From nases at verizon.net  Tue Jul 31 13:12:13 2012
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:12:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DFB6FFC4-FF39-4E4C-A669-BD1856DA7FB0@verizon.net>

I agree Mike.  That car looks like it did at LOTO when it was freshly done.
You're keeping it really nice Leo.
And where did you get those floor mats anyway?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
wrote:

> It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo.  Must be a lot of work to keep it that
> way.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> 02 Heritage Springer
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:
>
> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
> To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM
>
> Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics for
> everyone's viewing if interested. http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger
I
> think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I
have
> another bugeye in the wings
>
> Leo

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Jul 31 13:50:51 2012
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:50:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <DFB6FFC4-FF39-4E4C-A669-BD1856DA7FB0@verizon.net>
References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<DFB6FFC4-FF39-4E4C-A669-BD1856DA7FB0@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP>

A looonggg time ago from George M along with the NOS spiral fresh air intake
hose.  BOTH haven't been available for YEARS The floor mats are 4 piece HEAVY
blue  colored AMCO mats.

Leo

From: Phil Nase
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:12 PM
To: mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"

I agree Mike.  That car looks like it did at LOTO when it was freshly done.
You're keeping it really nice Leo.
And where did you get those floor mats anyway?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/




On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
wrote:


  It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo.  Must be a lot of work to keep it that
  way.
  Mike MacLean
  60 Sprite
  56 BN2
  02 Heritage Springer


  --- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

  From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
  To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
  Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM

  Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics for
  everyone's viewing if interested. http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger
I
  think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I
have
  another bugeye in the wings

  Leo

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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Tue Jul 31 13:55:12 2012
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:55:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Old and New
Message-ID: <1343764512.78047.YahooMailClassic@web184506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

A narrative on the 1911 Sears Model H.  Nothing to do with LBCs, but I thought
it would be interesting for the juxtaposition of the car starting and the F1
engine screaming by in the background.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRhhTJE3yU&feature=colike

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 31 14:09:53 2012
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:09:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
In-Reply-To: <4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP>
References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<DFB6FFC4-FF39-4E4C-A669-BD1856DA7FB0@verizon.net>
	<4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP>
Message-ID: <1343765393.19536.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I didn't even now they made those mats in blue.  I've seen black and red, but
not any other color.  That is a very nicely done bugeye.

 
Rick


Follow My
Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
________________________________
 From: "60bugeye at cebridge.net"
<60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net>;
"Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday,
July 31, 2012 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet"
A looonggg time ago from George M along with the NOS spiral fresh air intake
hose.  BOTH haven't been available for YEARS The floor mats are 4 piece HEAVY
blue  colored AMCO mats.

Leo

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 31 18:17:29 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:17:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm back on the list
In-Reply-To: <5016205F.5090005@txjames.com>
References: <1343610897.68485.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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	<5016205F.5090005@txjames.com>
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Welcome back Billy.
Lin

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Billy J. <billyj at txjames.com> wrote:
> I was on the list previously as bjshov8.  Now I'm back through our new email
> service.
>
> (We had Time Warner cable but the service was so bad that we finally
> switched to Verizon FIOS.  The internet service and TV are very good, but
> Verizon's customer support is not so good.  I was never able to get an email
> account functional through Verizon so I just got my own domain and
> independent hosting service.)
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 31 18:23:46 2012
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:23:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Smoke Gauges
In-Reply-To: <F48CAF47FD1F44D1A3C3EB418962E91F@dell1>
References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com>
	<D101F58E9CD34C8D9406807D0E62240F@Home>
	<CAJgjnupV0pt4V1v-_KkBeqFYk+ZfSBx1cyv_3tvLJ2D67T2PTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<36591.173.122.142.233.1343582012.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<CAEAAx7-87=PC7oXrXoQcZmpy87RbOWPVyGWgYKF55Yeuox=oqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5015ACBD.4090500@wi.net>
	<1D577F65-BD63-4BE7-969F-4C31EABDDAC3@verizon.net>
	<F48CAF47FD1F44D1A3C3EB418962E91F@dell1>
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And we all know where one is : )
Lin

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:
> Phil,
>
> You forgot to mention that the Lucas smoke gauges are prototypes. Hence they
> never went into production and only the three prototypes exist.
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From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Tue Jul 31 18:47:14 2012
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:47:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Rick Moses
Message-ID: <7b10.70dbec5b.3d49d692@aol.com>

I sent an email to Rick at _Sprite58 at Hotmail.com_ 
(mailto:Sprite58 at Hotmail.com)  and it was returned as Undeliverable.
Does anyone have his email address?  This is the one I took from the Healey 
Marque Registry column.
 
Thanks,
 
Rudy Streng
Lenoir, NC

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 31 22:57:47 2012
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:57:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California car,
 overheating question
In-Reply-To: <471C509B3DB8454E98B5EE853DB4B2ED@Thinkpad>
References: <mailman.3936.1343616539.2453.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<20120730191025.ZJ28S.1480.root@cdptpa-web07-z01>
	<471C509B3DB8454E98B5EE853DB4B2ED@Thinkpad>
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For what it is worth.  I had issues running hot with my 1275 59.  I
replaced the radiator with a Suzuki Swift radiator that was in a car my son
was getting rid of.  A Swift from the 1989 to 1994 model years.  From what
I understand the Swift radiator is the same as a Geo Metro radiator or very
similar?

I run a 160 thermostat and the engine stays at just above 160 degrees
regardless of the summer heat.  It can be 102 outside or above sitting at a
long stop light after driving around town and it will still not budge over
162 -163 degrees.

The radiator and change over to an OER carb (about 9 years ago) are two of
the best things I have done to give me no hassle driving.  (The OER is a
Japanese Weber DCOE 45 that takes all of the Weber internals but also has
an adjustment for the accelerator pump and the float bowl height).






On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I had a similar issue on my Bugeye. I was running around 195F-210F
> Depending on how hot it was outsde.
> Tried installing a 165F thermostat, no differnece.
>
> Send the radiator out to get cleaned.  Most auto radiator places
> don't even do this anymore.  Find a radiator place near the marinas
> that works on boats.  They still work on brass radiators.
>
> After he cleaned mine out I had a leak on one of the tubes.  The scaling
> blockage previously was actually preventing it from leaking.
>
> I isolated that tube out by drilling a tiny hole near the top and bottom of
> the tube.  I then injected jb weld epoxy into the tube.  Still holding.
>
> The cleaned out radiator made a huge difference.  It now holds 165F-175F
> most of the time.  On a really hot day it might hit 185F.
>
> I also converted to the later 6 bladed polymer fan.  It eats more power and
> Is a little noisy, but I would rather have the better cooling.
>
> You can also run water wetter in the coolant.
>
> >>
> Subject: [Spridgets] '66 Sprite, stock 1275, California car,overheating
> question
>
> My '66 Sprite, stock 1275, has an overheating problem or anyway the gauge
> shows that it is getting hot. What might some of the things to look for,
> maybe unique? All fluids are full. Radiator is getting hot - thermostat is
> working. Runs fine, does not seem to have an engine problem.  Suggestions?
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