From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Aug 1 05:52:28 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 04:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Think Pink! Message-ID: <1343821948.71164.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Nice story on the Donna Mae Mims bugeye on the Classic Motorsports online archive. Pay attention, Lin. http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/power-pink/ Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From trishasauthoff at yahoo.com Wed Aug 1 07:16:41 2012 From: trishasauthoff at yahoo.com (Patricia Sauthoff) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 06:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <1343827001.94402.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web111505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://gerardpenkhoss.com/faq.php?degixoduc=339&eqysiraseg=65 From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 07:34:09 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 09:34:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Think Pink! In-Reply-To: <1343821948.71164.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1343821948.71164.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes Rick I knew the story about Donna although I have to admit I am not a fan of the color Pink I do love my car : ) I saw the photo of her in her Corvette at her viewing and was pretty amazed the funeral director pulled that one off. Personally I like this photo of her best, http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6U6ZFTcbbU8/StTLi6S1-XI/AAAAAAAAC0A/yuF0U7aovQc/s400/DMM1.jpg Many articles on her and her unusual service. So I got to looking at articles and saw this gal was actually buried in her Corvair although in the casket glad to hear Donna wasn't. Cool post with pictures below of the burial of the Corvair cut open to slide in the coffin: http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,284860,284868 Lin On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > Nice story on the Donna Mae Mims bugeye on the Classic Motorsports online > archive. Pay attention, Lin. > http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/power-pink/ > > > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty > Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Aug 1 09:21:19 2012 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:21:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Think Pink! References: <1343821948.71164.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <753B667A5A3640CE93653D868AC55EEA@dell1> Way back in '63 I got to watch Donna race at the Marlboro race course and at Hagerstown. Marlboro was a major stop on the Eastern circuit and many later well know racers ran there. Biff From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Aug 1 11:52:10 2012 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:52:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Think Pink! In-Reply-To: <753B667A5A3640CE93653D868AC55EEA@dell1> References: <1343821948.71164.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <753B667A5A3640CE93653D868AC55EEA@dell1> Message-ID: <50196CCA.4030709@wi.net> I watched her raced at Elkhart and Lynndale Farms and got excited every time that Pink car came around. ;-) I was fortunate enough to see the Sprite, 58 fuelie Corvette and Yenko Stinger Corvair, TR, and MGB. A talented lady who broke some barriers. DW On 8/1/2012 10:21 AM, Biff Jones wrote: > Way back in '63 I got to watch Donna race at the Marlboro race course > and at Hagerstown. Marlboro was a major stop on the Eastern circuit > and many later well know racers ran there. > > Biff ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net From peter at nosimport.com Wed Aug 1 12:12:32 2012 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:12:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rover P4 100 info? Message-ID: <20120801181233.35C629A4766@mx2.netinteraction.com> Jonesin' 1961 P4 100 Rover, I think. Anyone have any non-Wiki knowledge or experience here? Peter C From gmajewski at wi.rr.com Wed Aug 1 12:12:41 2012 From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:12:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It might be too good to drive your BE in this weather References: <53249488-A30F-45BD-8A17-52DD174096AF@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <9F749A90-62DA-47B1-86BC-2A5FF42B50F8@wi.rr.com> Begin forwarded message: > >> >> >> IT'S SO HOT in WISCONSIN >> >> .....the birds have to use potholders to pull the worms out of the ground. >> .....the trees are whistling for the dogs. >> .....the best parking place is determined by shade instead of distance >> .....hot water comes from both taps. >> .....you can make sun tea instantly. >> .....you learn that a seat belt buckle makes a pretty good branding iron. >> .....the temperature drops below 90 F and you feel a little chilly. >> .....you discover that in July it only takes two fingers to steer your car. >> .....you discover that you can get sunburned through your car window. >> .....you actually burn your hand opening the car door. >> .....you break into a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 A.M. >> .....your biggest motorcycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked out and end up lying on the pavement and cook to death"? >> .....you realize that asphalt has a liquid stage. >> .....the potatoes cook underground, so all you have to do is pull one out and add butter. >> .....the cows are giving evaporated milk. >> .....farmers are feeding their chickens crushed ice to keep them from laying boiled eggs. From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 12:13:12 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:13:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Victoria Bastedo - new book out today! Message-ID: My wife's first published book out today! Title: Dear Miklos *ISBN:* 978-1-934912-47-8 Romance, light reading... Amazon E-book here: http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Miklos-ebook/dp/B008RCKZIA/ If you want to help you can "like" the dickens out of it on the publishers FB page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Lyon-Publishing/124562235465 Want the pdf e-book? http://shop.blacklyonpublishing.com/product.sc?productId=113&categoryId=1 Thanks for your support... Now back to our regularly scheduled ranting and ravings re: cats, zappa, guns, triple wipers vs dual wipers, clutch bleeding, knuckle bleeding... Rick (now the big checks start rolling in right?) Bastedo From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Aug 1 12:29:26 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sonoma Raceway Message-ID: <1343845766.11141.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Anyone on the list able to offer some practical and hands-on experience and recommendations for attending Sonoma Raceway. We are considering the IndyCar race at the end of the month. TIA. No Google info please. I know how to do that. jay fishbein wallingford, ct 61 Innocenti 950 Spider 63 Pink Sprite Mk II From markwemple at yahoo.com Wed Aug 1 12:37:55 2012 From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] parts FS cheap! Message-ID: <1343846275.56045.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> We may be moving soon and I have a ton of parts that I would rather not scrap. Too much to move and if it isn't for a bugeye, I really don't have a need for it. I have body panels, engines, rear ends, lights, guages, covers, radiators, etc. Buy some or the whole kit. Make me a reasonable offer. TIA!!! Mark D. Wemple, Esq. 359 Dun Robbin Drive Severna Park, Maryland 21146 Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410 From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Wed Aug 1 14:28:33 2012 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 21:28:33 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzels racing spridgets at Silverstone Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/ct9zsvz and also a John Player Special Lotus , and jaguars , and astons , and maseratis and LeMans GT cars and F1 cars and historic Grand Prix cars and 6 wheel Tyrell F1 car and Coventry climax twink engine and too many pics to describe I went one day on my motorbike , the next day in my wifes MGF and in my Frogeye sprite on the Sunday , 3 great days. Of course there are also quite a few photos of midgets and sprites on the MIDGET & SPRITE club display in the track centre. http://tinyurl.com/ct9zsvz About 360 photos Alan Warwick UK From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 07:47:55 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 09:47:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Think Pink! In-Reply-To: <50196CCA.4030709@wi.net> References: <1343821948.71164.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <753B667A5A3640CE93653D868AC55EEA@dell1> <50196CCA.4030709@wi.net> Message-ID: Wow that must have been awesome to see, thanks guys. Lin On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > I watched her raced at Elkhart and Lynndale Farms and got excited every time > that Pink car came around. ;-) > I was fortunate enough to see the Sprite, 58 fuelie Corvette and Yenko > Stinger Corvair, TR, and MGB. A talented lady who broke some barriers. > DW > > > On 8/1/2012 10:21 AM, Biff Jones wrote: >> >> Way back in '63 I got to watch Donna race at the Marlboro race course and >> at Hagerstown. Marlboro was a major stop on the Eastern circuit and many >> later well know racers ran there. >> >> Biff ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 07:52:37 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 09:52:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Victoria Bastedo - new book out today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cool Rick, can you get her to write about LBC's now...wink. Lin On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > My wife's first published book out today! > > Title: Dear Miklos > *ISBN:* 978-1-934912-47-8 > > Romance, light reading... > Amazon E-book here: > http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Miklos-ebook/dp/B008RCKZIA/ > > If you want to help you can "like" the dickens out of it on the publishers > FB page. > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Lyon-Publishing/124562235465 > > Want the pdf e-book? > http://shop.blacklyonpublishing.com/product.sc?productId=113&categoryId=1 > > Thanks for your support... > Now back to our regularly scheduled ranting and ravings re: cats, zappa, > guns, triple wipers vs dual wipers, clutch bleeding, knuckle bleeding... > > Rick (now the big checks start rolling in right?) Bastedo > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 08:02:10 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 07:02:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Victoria Bastedo - new book out today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That shouldn't be difficult, she does like driving them! Not much into working on them, but driving them around is something she finds enjoyable. Rick Bastedo On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Cool Rick, can you get her to write about LBC's now...wink. > Lin > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > > My wife's first published book out today! > > > > Title: Dear Miklos > > *ISBN:* 978-1-934912-47-8 > > > > Romance, light reading... > > Amazon E-book here: > > http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Miklos-ebook/dp/B008RCKZIA/ > > > > If you want to help you can "like" the dickens out of it on the > publishers > > FB page. > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Lyon-Publishing/124562235465 > > > > Want the pdf e-book? > > > http://shop.blacklyonpublishing.com/product.sc?productId=113&categoryId=1 > > > > Thanks for your support... > > Now back to our regularly scheduled ranting and ravings re: cats, zappa, > > guns, triple wipers vs dual wipers, clutch bleeding, knuckle bleeding... > > > > Rick (now the big checks start rolling in right?) Bastedo > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 09:01:21 2012 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:01:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany Message-ID: We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub and black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a nice one for the wife. ;) -Trevor From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 09:17:55 2012 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:17:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All you have to do is win the lottery! http://www.ramkleen.com/sys_150.html Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me > that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub and > black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? > > So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a > nice one for the wife. ;) > > -Trevor > ------------------------ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Aug 2 09:22:50 2012 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:22:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120802152250.774419A4809@mx2.netinteraction.com> At 10:01 AM 8/2/2012, Trevor Jessie wrote: >So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a >nice one for the wife. ;) > >-Trevor They'll take trades!!!!!!!!!!!!! ED From richb at u.washington.edu Thu Aug 2 09:34:42 2012 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 08:34:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany References: Message-ID: <2157C4BEA1FA4D31B09D77C060B68B61@psych.washington.edu> But does she know you are cleaning parts in HER new dishwasher??? Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Jessie" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:01 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany > We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me > that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub > and > black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? > > So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a > nice one for the wife. ;) > > -Trevor > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/richb at u.washington.edu From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 09:46:02 2012 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:46:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: <2157C4BEA1FA4D31B09D77C060B68B61@psych.washington.edu> References: <2157C4BEA1FA4D31B09D77C060B68B61@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Technically, it is my dishwasher since I do all the cooking and cleaning. I never said I was washing parts in the dishwasher, nor did I imply it. You must have inferred that .... for some silly reason. -Trevor On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Richard Ball wrote: > But does she know you are cleaning parts in HER new dishwasher??? > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Jessie" < > trevor.jessie at gmail.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:01 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany > > > We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me >> that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub >> and >> black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? >> >> So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a >> nice one for the wife. ;) >> >> -Trevor >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/richb at u.**washington.edu From gmari2 at verizon.net Thu Aug 2 10:02:56 2012 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:02:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39567B4B-B149-4386-8DB6-BF1F912BB0FE@verizon.net> Anyone want one, they are located within easy driving distance. I could probably get a wholesalers discount too. George Sent from my iPad On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > All you have to do is win the lottery! > > http://www.ramkleen.com/sys_150.html > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > >> We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me >> that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub and >> black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? >> >> So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a >> nice one for the wife. ;) >> >> -Trevor >> ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net From miniac7 at aol.com Thu Aug 2 10:43:32 2012 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: References: <2157C4BEA1FA4D31B09D77C060B68B61@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <8CF3EE51604407F-1FC-11044@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> I have one of those black interior dishwashers and it IS reserved for parts washing. My wife hand washes our dishes in the slop sink out in the garage. Howard -----Original Message----- From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 12:08 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany Technically, it is my dishwasher since I do all the cooking and cleaning. I never said I was washing parts in the dishwasher, nor did I imply it. You must have inferred that .... for some silly reason. -Trevor On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Richard Ball wrote: > But does she know you are cleaning parts in HER new dishwasher??? Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Jessie" < trevor.jessie at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:01 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me > that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub > and > black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? > > So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a > nice one for the wife. ;) > > -Trevor > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/richb at u.**washington.edu ----------------------- spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 11:58:27 2012 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:58:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: <8CF3EE51604407F-1FC-11044@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> References: <2157C4BEA1FA4D31B09D77C060B68B61@psych.washington.edu> <8CF3EE51604407F-1FC-11044@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I'm guessing she's also bare foot in a dress made from a feed sack.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, wrote: > I have one of those black interior dishwashers and it IS reserved for parts > washing. My wife hand washes our dishes in the slop sink out in the garage. > > Howard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trevor Jessie > To: Spridgets > Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 12:08 pm > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany > > > Technically, it is my dishwasher since I do all the cooking and cleaning. > I never said I was washing parts in the dishwasher, nor did I imply it. > You must have inferred that .... for some silly reason. > -Trevor > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Richard Ball >wrote: > > But does she know you are cleaning parts in HER new dishwasher??? > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Jessie" < > trevor.jessie at gmail.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:01 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany > > > We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to > me > > that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub > > and > > black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? > > > > So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a > > nice one for the wife. ;) > > > > -Trevor > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html< > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > > > options/spridgets/richb at u.**washington.edu< > http://autox.team.net/mailman/opti > ons/spridgets/richb at u.washington.edu> > ----------------------- > spridgets at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > uggested annual donation: $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > orums: http://www.team.net/forums > nsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Aug 2 12:36:26 2012 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1343932586.8522.YahooMailClassic@web184504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Well, you are least powder coating using the oven aren't you? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Thu, 8/2/12, Trevor Jessie wrote: From: Trevor Jessie Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, August 2, 2012, 3:46 PM Technically, it is my dishwasher since I do all the cooking and cleaning. I never said I was washing parts in the dishwasher, nor did I imply it. You must have inferred that .... for some silly reason. -Trevor On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Richard Ball wrote: > But does she know you are cleaning parts in HER new dishwasher??? > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Jessie" < > trevor.jessie at gmail.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:01 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany > > > We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me >> that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub >> and >> black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? >> >> So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a >> nice one for the wife. ;) >> >> -Trevor >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/richb at u.**washington.edu ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Aug 2 14:44:41 2012 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It might be too good to drive your BE in this weather In-Reply-To: <9F749A90-62DA-47B1-86BC-2A5FF42B50F8@wi.rr.com> References: <53249488-A30F-45BD-8A17-52DD174096AF@wi.rr.com> <9F749A90-62DA-47B1-86BC-2A5FF42B50F8@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <501AE6B9.3030809@wi.net> Gary, Well said! That qualifies to be in the Burlington(WI) Liars Club!! Except for one teensy little problem....where's the lie?! Here's a game! Let's see how the list can change this to apply only to our LBC's. I'll start: It's so hot out that all my bootleg rubber reproduction parts melted and split! Oh wait, they did that at 80* in my garage after 2 months. DW Burlington WI On 8/1/2012 1:12 PM, gary majewski wrote: > Begin forwarded message: > >>> >>> IT'S SO HOT in WISCONSIN >>> >>> .....the birds have to use potholders to pull the worms out of the ground. >>> .....the trees are whistling for the dogs. >>> .....the best parking place is determined by shade instead of distance >>> .....hot water comes from both taps. >>> .....you can make sun tea instantly. >>> .....you learn that a seat belt buckle makes a pretty good branding iron. >>> .....the temperature drops below 90 F and you feel a little chilly. >>> .....you discover that in July it only takes two fingers to steer your > car. >>> .....you discover that you can get sunburned through your car window. >>> .....you actually burn your hand opening the car door. >>> .....you break into a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 A.M. >>> .....your biggest motorcycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked out and > end up lying on the pavement and cook to death"? >>> .....you realize that asphalt has a liquid stage. >>> .....the potatoes cook underground, so all you have to do is pull one out > and add butter. >>> .....the cows are giving evaporated milk. >>> .....farmers are feeding their chickens crushed ice to keep them from > laying boiled eggs. From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Aug 2 14:49:16 2012 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:49:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Victoria Bastedo - new book out today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <501AE7CC.7090905@wi.net> Ordered and received!! Congratulations Victoria!! DW On 8/1/2012 1:13 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > My wife's first published book out today! > > Title: Dear Miklos > *ISBN:* 978-1-934912-47-8 > > Romance, light reading... > Amazon E-book here: > http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Miklos-ebook/dp/B008RCKZIA/ > > If you want to help you can "like" the dickens out of it on the publishers > FB page. > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Lyon-Publishing/124562235465 > > Want the pdf e-book? > http://shop.blacklyonpublishing.com/product.sc?productId=113&categoryId=1 > > Thanks for your support... > Now back to our regularly scheduled ranting and ravings re: cats, zappa, > guns, triple wipers vs dual wipers, clutch bleeding, knuckle bleeding... > > Rick (now the big checks start rolling in right?) Bastedo From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 15:24:45 2012 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 14:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1343942685.86143.YahooMailNeo@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Can we assume she has a regular schedule so you won't get caught? I always found that it was best to run another cycle with nothing in it afterward... ...and I swear it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm single now! - David ________________________________ From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Dishwasher epiphany We bought a new dishwasher about 1.5 years ago, and it just occurred to me that I picked the right one. Why? Because it has a stainless steel tub and black dish racks. Anyone else here see why that is advantageous? So... if you are in the market for a new dishwasher... be sure and get a nice one for the wife. ;) -Trevor ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri Aug 3 12:29:24 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:29:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Victoria Bastedo - new book out today! Message-ID: Thanks for your support Dave, I forwarded this to her. Rick _________________________________ From: dwoerpel Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT: Victoria Bastedo - new book out today! Ordered and received!! Congratulations Victoria!! DW On 8/1/2012 1:13 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > My wife's first published book out today! > > Title: Dear Miklos > *ISBN:* 978-1-934912-47-8 From grbyrns at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 08:16:05 2012 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 07:16:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Finally Message-ID: <1D34C72D-EA29-41DF-868B-44F7DB4C3ED2@gmail.com> I've been off the list for some time with a computer issue. If this message comes through, I'm back. From shop at justbrits.com Sat Aug 4 08:32:13 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 09:32:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Finally In-Reply-To: <1D34C72D-EA29-41DF-868B-44F7DB4C3ED2@gmail.com> References: <1D34C72D-EA29-41DF-868B-44F7DB4C3ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <501D326D.6020909@justbrits.com> It didn't Glen, so you not, right ? ! ? From nases at verizon.net Sat Aug 4 08:37:13 2012 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:37:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Finally In-Reply-To: <1D34C72D-EA29-41DF-868B-44F7DB4C3ED2@gmail.com> References: <1D34C72D-EA29-41DF-868B-44F7DB4C3ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome back Glen. I'm glad to hear you'll be rebuilding the damaged cars. Phil Nase Applebachsville, PA http://home.comcast.net/philnasecpa/ p:p8p,p' On Aug 4, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > I've been off the list for some time with a computer issue. If this message > comes through, I'm back. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From grbyrns at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 08:55:18 2012 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 07:55:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Burned bugeye Message-ID: I have heard from AAA that I will get a very generous settlement on my roasted LBCs. The Traveller and turbo Bugsy will be totalled. I will retain title and restore both. Despite the horrible exterior appearance, Bugsy isn't all that bad. I was able to start him up two days ago and the Megasquirt system was undamaged. He runs great and still sounds ferocious. The interior is a bit crispy, but all things considered, completely repairable. This time he'll get a complete media blast/strip, epoxy primer throughout, and a pro paint job with custom interior. Ahhhhh, car insurance! The woody wagon will be a bigger challenge as all the varnished wood is now black like ebony. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Aug 4 09:17:15 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 08:17:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Burned Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BB690C615F44E36A2B4749B71E8F3E7@spider> You are on the leading edge of the Wabi resurgence with the Woody. http://pursuingwabi.com/2007/11/05/shou-sugi-ban/ Did you have home-owners insurance with AAA or a separate policy to cover the cars? ...bill in oregon ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 7:55 AM To: spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Burned Bugeye I have heard from AAA that I will get a very generous settlement on my roasted LBCs. The Traveller and turbo Bugsy will be totaled. I will retain title and restore both. Despite the horrible exterior appearance, Bugsy isn't all that bad. I was able to start him up two days ago and the Megasquirt system was undamaged. He runs great and still sounds ferocious. The interior is a bit crispy, but all things considered, completely repairable. This time he'll get a complete media blast/strip, epoxy primer throughout, and a pro paint job with custom interior. Ahhhhh, car insurance! The woody wagon will be a bigger challenge as all the varnished wood is now black like ebony. ------------------------ From grbyrns at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 10:04:46 2012 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 09:04:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Burned Bugeye In-Reply-To: <6BB690C615F44E36A2B4749B71E8F3E7@spider> References: <6BB690C615F44E36A2B4749B71E8F3E7@spider> Message-ID: State Farm for the house, AAA for the cars Glen Byrns On Aug 4, 2012, at 8:17 AM, wrote: > You are on the leading edge of the Wabi resurgence with the Woody. > http://pursuingwabi.com/2007/11/05/shou-sugi-ban/ > Did you have home-owners insurance with AAA or a separate policy to cover > the cars? ...bill in oregon > ================================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 7:55 AM > To: spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Burned Bugeye > > I have heard from AAA that I will get a very generous settlement on my > roasted LBCs. The Traveller and turbo Bugsy will be totaled. I will > retain title and restore both. Despite the horrible exterior > appearance, Bugsy isn't all that bad. I was able to start him up two days > ago and the Megasquirt system was > undamaged. He runs great and still sounds ferocious. The interior is a bit > crispy, but all things considered, completely repairable. This time he'll > get > a complete media blast/strip, epoxy primer throughout, and a pro paint job > with custom interior. Ahhhhh, car insurance! > The woody wagon will be a bigger challenge as all the varnished wood is > now > black like ebony. > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grbyrns at gmail.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Sat Aug 4 10:59:49 2012 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] need main and rod bearings? In-Reply-To: <1D34C72D-EA29-41DF-868B-44F7DB4C3ED2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1344099589.25748.YahooMailClassic@web112709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> hello all! i'm still alive and kicking! i'm very close to starting to reactivate my bugeye. but i need a set of standard main and a set of standard rod bearings for my 1275 (also standard thrust bearings) . if anyone has been "blessed" with a set of either bearings they can not use please email me directly. i have a huge desire to drive my car this year if at all possible. i'm not tearing down the motor untill i have all the needed "bits" in my posession. chuck ;) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Aug 4 11:23:11 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:23:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] need main and rod bearings? In-Reply-To: <1344099589.25748.YahooMailClassic@web112709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1D34C72D-EA29-41DF-868B-44F7DB4C3ED2@gmail.com> <1344099589.25748.YahooMailClassic@web112709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2B8702CE4CF840C0B7794144AC2FFA82@spider> Then how do you know you need Standard sizes? Tear the motor down and get everything mic'ed by a machinist before buying bearings. ...bill in oregon ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of charles christ Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:00 AM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] need main and rod bearings? hello all! i'm still alive and kicking! i'm very close to starting to reactivate my bugeye. but i need a set of standard main and a set of standard rod bearings for my 1275 (also standard thrust bearings) . if anyone has been "blessed" with a set of either bearings they can not use please email me directly. i have a huge desire to drive my car this year if at all possible. i'm not tearing down the motor untill i have all the needed "bits" in my posession. chuck ;) ------------------------ From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 12:05:36 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:05:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Selling the Sprite Message-ID: I put it on Craigslist for $6000. No calls and no emails. I lowered it to $5000 - still no contacts. Lowered to $4500 - got two interested potential buyers in 24 hours - one coming to look today and the other coming tomorrow (if the first guy doesn't buy). Sounds like I may have found the magic number. Rick (I'll be sad to see the little red thing go) Bastedo From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Aug 4 13:48:12 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics Message-ID: <53d3.587a1f9d.3d4ed67c@aol.com> And how is this different from Darts (World Championships but not an olympic event)? In a message dated 30/07/2012 00:28:48 GMT Daylight Time, tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: competitive beer drinking. Like BeerFest, but on a world wide scale. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Aug 4 13:50:43 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" Message-ID: <547f.6f8f1bb6.3d4ed713@aol.com> You could fit a BDA if you had the funds and have something faster and lighter than an 'Atlantis Midget' Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 30/07/2012 16:03:27 GMT Daylight Time, lbc77mg at gmail.com writes: Hey, Chris, Can you fit the Cosworth engine in a Spridget? That twin cam should be good. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Aug 4 15:08:57 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: <547f.6f8f1bb6.3d4ed713@aol.com> References: <547f.6f8f1bb6.3d4ed713@aol.com> Message-ID: <1344114537.91211.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> What a glorious sounding car that would be. BDAs are really rare over here, but I got to see and hear a few Escort BDAs on track. Not too exciting a car, but oh that engine! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" You could fit a BDA if you had the funds and have something faster and lighter than an 'Atlantis Midget' Weslake-Monza 1330 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Aug 4 15:11:30 2012 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:11:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics In-Reply-To: <53d3.587a1f9d.3d4ed67c@aol.com> References: <53d3.587a1f9d.3d4ed67c@aol.com> Message-ID: There are no sharp, pointy things to fall on when you pass out.... On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM, wrote: > And how is this different from Darts (World Championships but not an > olympic event)? > > > > In a message dated 30/07/2012 00:28:48 GMT Daylight Time, > tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: > > competitive beer drinking. Like BeerFest, but on a world wide scale. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Aug 4 16:04:08 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: <687A2612B16C46BBAB6081A9915AA41A@spider> References: <547f.6f8f1bb6.3d4ed713@aol.com> <1344114537.91211.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <687A2612B16C46BBAB6081A9915AA41A@spider> Message-ID: <1344117848.67271.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Good enough for Jack Brabham, good enough for me: http://reality.sgiweb.org/mg/ahsdc/goblins/tech/brabham.htm Nice find on the workshop manual! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: "corvallis at peoplepc.com" Maybe find an old Coventry Climax FWA? http://www.97330.com/CoventryClimax_FwaFwbFwe/index.html ...bill in oregon =================================== - From grday at btinternet.com Sat Aug 4 16:06:24 2012 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 23:06:24 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics References: <53d3.587a1f9d.3d4ed67c@aol.com> Message-ID: <968D3033054F4BCF8FF9EECC247DA648@user8634b3d69b> Javelins and arrows are pointy. Shot (put) is blunt but tad cannonballish.... LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Olympics > There are no sharp, pointy things to fall on when you pass out.... > > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM, wrote: > >> And how is this different from Darts (World Championships but not an >> olympic event)? >> >> >> >> In a message dated 30/07/2012 00:28:48 GMT Daylight Time, >> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: >> >> competitive beer drinking. Like BeerFest, but on a world wide scale. >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Sprite-Midget Club USA > High Plains Youth Hockey > Dodge City Trail of Fame > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology > Yup. I stay plenty busy!! > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living > are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From peter at nosimport.com Sat Aug 4 17:32:16 2012 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 18:32:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics In-Reply-To: <968D3033054F4BCF8FF9EECC247DA648@user8634b3d69b> References: <53d3.587a1f9d.3d4ed67c@aol.com> <968D3033054F4BCF8FF9EECC247DA648@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <20120804233223.627F59A4563@mx2.netinteraction.com> I'm heading out to a lawn Jarts party, in a few beers. Ron. if I'm late, or bleeding, you'll know why. Peter C ====== At 05:06 PM 8/4/2012, GUY DAY wrote: >Javelins and arrows are pointy. Shot (put) is blunt but tad cannonballish.... > >LOL > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:11 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Olympics > > >>There are no sharp, pointy things to fall on when you pass out.... >> >> >>On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM, wrote: >> >>>And how is this different from Darts (World Championships but not an >>>olympic event)? >>> >>> >>> >>>In a message dated 30/07/2012 00:28:48 GMT Daylight Time, >>>tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: >>> >>>competitive beer drinking. Like BeerFest, but on a world wide scale. >>>------------------------ >>> >>>spridgets at autox.team.net >>> >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> >> >>-- >>Cheers!! >>Jim Johnson >>Sprite-Midget Club USA >>High Plains Youth Hockey >>Dodge City Trail of Fame >>Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology >>Yup. I stay plenty busy!! >>bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >>The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living >>are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. >>------------------------ >> >>spridgets at autox.team.net >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5178 - Release Date: 08/04/12 From tmheffron at aol.com Sat Aug 4 19:23:59 2012 From: tmheffron at aol.com (Tmheffron) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 20:23:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics Message-ID: <50ywyikurlh1dchnb18mq1dj.1344129839508@email.android.com> Remember to twist the jart as you pull it out. Sent from my U.S. CellularB. Android-powered phone Peter Caldwell wrote: >I'm heading out to a lawn Jarts party, in a few beers. > >Ron. if I'm late, or bleeding, you'll know why. > >Peter C > >====== >At 05:06 PM 8/4/2012, GUY DAY wrote: >>Javelins and arrows are pointy. Shot (put) is blunt but tad cannonballish.... >> >>LOL >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" >>To: >>Cc: >>Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:11 PM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Olympics >> >> >>>There are no sharp, pointy things to fall on when you pass out.... >>> >>> >>>On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:48 PM, wrote: >>> >>>>And how is this different from Darts (World Championships but not an >>>>olympic event)? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>In a message dated 30/07/2012 00:28:48 GMT Daylight Time, >>>>tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: >>>> >>>>competitive beer drinking. Like BeerFest, but on a world wide scale. >>>>------------------------ >>>> >>>>spridgets at autox.team.net >>>> >>>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>> >>>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Cheers!! >>>Jim Johnson >>>Sprite-Midget Club USA >>>High Plains Youth Hockey >>>Dodge City Trail of Fame >>>Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology >>>Yup. I stay plenty busy!! >>>bmwwxman at gmail.com >>> >>>The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living >>>are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. >>>------------------------ >>> >>>spridgets at autox.team.net >>> >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com >>------------------------ >> >>spridgets at autox.team.net >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com >> >> >>----- >>No virus found in this message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5178 - Release Date: 08/04/12 >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tmheffron at aol.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Aug 4 20:13:34 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 21:13:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics In-Reply-To: <50ywyikurlh1dchnb18mq1dj.1344129839508@email.android.com> References: <50ywyikurlh1dchnb18mq1dj.1344129839508@email.android.com> Message-ID: <501DD6CE.3000904@justbrits.com> << On 8/4/2012 8:23 PM, Tmheffron wrote: Remember to twist the jart as you pull it out. >> HOW long you known PPP, Tim ? ! ? What in the WORLD would make you even remotely 'think' a jart would/could penatrate PPP's "hard head" AKA an overly OLD cheese wheel/head/'stone' ? ! ? Anon From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Aug 4 20:28:53 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 19:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Olympics In-Reply-To: <20120804233223.627F59A4563@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <53d3.587a1f9d.3d4ed67c@aol.com> <968D3033054F4BCF8FF9EECC247DA648@user8634b3d69b> <20120804233223.627F59A4563@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <1344133733.494.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Jarts ... banned in 1988 ...the other "You'll put your eye out." Christmas present. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell I'm heading out to a lawn Jarts party, in a few beers. Ron. if I'm late, or bleeding, you'll know why. Peter C From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Aug 4 21:49:40 2012 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 23:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter Message-ID: <113ef.2fa57d0d.3d4f4754@aol.com> Who from the list can I plan on seeing next week in New Jersey? Howard Collins From grday at btinternet.com Sun Aug 5 01:00:09 2012 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:00:09 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP> Message-ID: Try 'Air intake hose wire reinforced' in Google. 500,000 results including: http://www.vacuflex.de/download/VacuE.pdf http://www.macraesbluebook.com/search/product_company_list.cfm?prod_code=8742228 and the one I'm sure everyone will use..... http://www.indiamart.com/sheetal-rubber-products/wire-reinforced-hoses.html LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "Phil Nase" ; "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" >A looonggg time ago from George M along with the NOS spiral fresh air >intake > hose. BOTH haven't been available for YEARS The floor mats are 4 piece > HEAVY > blue colored AMCO mats. > > Leo > > From: Phil Nase > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:12 PM > To: mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net > Cc: 60bugeye at cebridge.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > > I agree Mike. That car looks like it did at LOTO when it was freshly > done. > You're keeping it really nice Leo. > And where did you get those floor mats anyway? > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > > > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > > It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo. Must be a lot of work to keep it > that > way. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > > > --- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > > From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > To: "spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM > > Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics > for > everyone's viewing if interested. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger > I > think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I > have > another bugeye in the wings > > Leo > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > wlEmoticon-smile[1].png] > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From gmari2 at verizon.net Sun Aug 5 07:31:01 2012 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 09:31:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter In-Reply-To: <113ef.2fa57d0d.3d4f4754@aol.com> References: <113ef.2fa57d0d.3d4f4754@aol.com> Message-ID: <942A59E2-05CC-4C82-A689-BE3E0E716BF0@verizon.net> Hi Howard. Look me up when you get to the hotel. 201 280-9059. We were supposed to get there Wednesday night but a change in work has us arriving thursday morning. George Marinos Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > Who from the list can I plan on seeing next week in New Jersey? > > Howard Collins > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Aug 5 08:29:44 2012 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:29:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP> Message-ID: Dang that George LOL :) Now mister smarty pants find the blue AMCO mats :P) Leo -----Original Message----- From: GUY DAY Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 2:00 AM To: 60bugeye at cebridge.net ; Phil Nase ; Spridgets at autox.team. Net net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" Try 'Air intake hose wire reinforced' in Google. 500,000 results including: http://www.vacuflex.de/download/VacuE.pdf http://www.macraesbluebook.com/search/product_company_list.cfm?prod_code=8742228 and the one I'm sure everyone will use..... http://www.indiamart.com/sheetal-rubber-products/wire-reinforced-hoses.html LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "Phil Nase" ; "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" >A looonggg time ago from George M along with the NOS spiral fresh air >intake > hose. BOTH haven't been available for YEARS The floor mats are 4 piece > HEAVY > blue colored AMCO mats. > > Leo > > From: Phil Nase > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:12 PM > To: mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net > Cc: 60bugeye at cebridge.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > > I agree Mike. That car looks like it did at LOTO when it was freshly > done. > You're keeping it really nice Leo. > And where did you get those floor mats anyway? > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > > > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > > > It's an absolutely gorgeous car Leo. Must be a lot of work to keep it > that > way. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > > > --- On Tue, 7/31/12, 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > > From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > To: "spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:40 AM > > Since it is quiet I thought I would throw out this link to Iris's pics > for > everyone's viewing if interested. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger > I > think she is going up for sale soon as I have another car in mind and I > have > another bugeye in the wings > > Leo > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > wlEmoticon-smile[1].png] > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From shop at justbrits.com Sun Aug 5 08:42:27 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 09:42:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP> Message-ID: <501E8653.8030704@justbrits.com> << On 8/5/2012 9:29 AM, 60bugeye at cebridge.net wrote: > Now mister smarty pants find..... >> Doesn't he have 47,997 more 'hoses' to peruse, Leo ? ? ? LOL ! From ah53 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 5 09:34:18 2012 From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter In-Reply-To: <113ef.2fa57d0d.3d4f4754@aol.com> References: <113ef.2fa57d0d.3d4f4754@aol.com> Message-ID: <1344180858.51863.YahooMailNeo@web121303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> My daughter Megan and her husband Mike will be there with their kids in the "I Do" Sprite. My wife Marge and I will be there in the coronet cream 100. Beers on me. Joe ________________________________ From: "Miniac7 at aol.com" To: spridgets at autox.team.net; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter Who from the list can I plan on seeing next week in New Jersey? Howard Collins ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah53 at yahoo.com From Miniac7 at aol.com Sun Aug 5 10:52:24 2012 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter Message-ID: <18e0b.3c259e48.3d4ffec8@aol.com> Sounds great..see you there. In a message dated 8/5/2012 11:34:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ah53 at yahoo.com writes: My daughter Megan and her husband Mike will be there with their kids in the "I Do" Sprite. My wife Marge and I will be there in the coronet cream 100. Beers on me. Joe ____________________________________ From: "Miniac7 at aol.com" To: spridgets at autox.team.net; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Encounter Who from the list can I plan on seeing next week in New Jersey? Howard Collins ------------------------ _spridgets at autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net) Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah53 at yahoo.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Aug 5 12:44:05 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 11:44:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] mail recovery in Atlanta? Message-ID: <03F690FE41B046D8919F400F4D71E327@spider> Is somebody looking for a job in the Atlanta, GA area? How about bidding on mail items and returning them to their owners for a Finder's Fee? Look for a package with Corvallis Oregon on it $$$. Bill in Oregon Mail Recovery Center 5345 Fulton Industrial Blvd SW Atlanta GA 30378-2400 Here is a list of their auction dates: August 15, 2012 - Wednesday September 19, 2012 - Wednesday October 17, 2012 - Wednesday November 14, 2012 - Wednesday December 12, 2012 - Wednesday from http://about.usps.com/doing-business/auctions/welcome.htm Directions: From Interstate 20 East or West, exit at Fulton Industrial Boulevard and continue South for approximately 3 miles. After 3 miles, exit right onto Bucknell Drive, then right at the next street which is Bucknell Court. Follow this drive around to the stop sign and the Mail Recovery Center will be on the right. Inspection of Merchandise: 8:30 am - 10:00 am Auction Time: 10:00 am - Completion From grday at btinternet.com Sun Aug 5 14:50:52 2012 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:50:52 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP> <501E8653.8030704@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Show him how to catch a fish and he'll feed himself for life.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "" Just Brits " Shop" To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > << On 8/5/2012 9:29 AM, 60bugeye at cebridge.net wrote: >> Now mister smarty pants find..... >> > > Doesn't he have 47,997 more 'hoses' to peruse, Leo ? ? ? > > LOL ! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From george.brokaw at cox.net Sun Aug 5 15:22:05 2012 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 16:22:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP> <501E8653.8030704@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <034101cd7350$5d630200$18290600$@cox.net> No, he will spend all day drinking beer on the lake.... :) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of GUY DAY Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:51 PM To: " Just Brits " Shop; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" Show him how to catch a fish and he'll feed himself for life.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "" Just Brits " Shop" To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > << On 8/5/2012 9:29 AM, 60bugeye at cebridge.net wrote: >> Now mister smarty pants find..... >> > > Doesn't he have 47,997 more 'hoses' to peruse, Leo ? ? ? > > LOL ! > ------------------------ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 15:27:02 2012 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 16:27:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP> <501E8653.8030704@justbrits.com> Message-ID: How about... Show him how to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > Show him how to catch a fish and he'll feed himself for life.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "" Just Brits " Shop" < > shop at justbrits.com> > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > > > << On 8/5/2012 9:29 AM, 60bugeye at cebridge.net wrote: >> >>> Now mister smarty pants find..... >> >>> >> >> Doesn't he have 47,997 more 'hoses' to peruse, Leo ? ? ? >> >> LOL ! >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/grday@**btinternet.com >> > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Aug 5 20:57:36 2012 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:57:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye Message-ID: Went to a 50s type car show today with the Bugeye. After leaving the house found out the tank was dry. Made the Facet pump go crazy, but filled it up and went to the show. Traveled at least 15 miles to the show with no problem. Car sat all afternoon. Just left the show and the car died. The fuel pump is working, but sounds muted. Car acts like it is not getting gas, but the fuel filter near the carb is full. What does a Facet pump sound like when it is going bad? Clogged fuel line? Mike MacLean stuck on the side of the road. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 21:36:19 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:36:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A lot of times when you let the tank go totally empty you get stuff in the system that normally floats or otherwise remains in the tank. You may have trash or debris in the pump now. 15 miles might use somewhere around 1/2 gallon fuel, though. Dunno what a Facet pump sounds like when going bad but if yours is sounding different than usual then you're probably on the right track. Maybe pull the hose at the filter and let the pump run and see how much, if any, it puts out? From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sun Aug 5 22:00:56 2012 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 23:00:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01f301cd7388$15373ae0$3fa5b0a0$@austin.rr.com> Take the fuel line loose at the carb. Turn on the pump and see if you get gas. If you do, it is not the pump. If not, put your finger over the fuel line and see if it feels like you have air coming out. If so, the fuel line is likely broken between the tank and the pump. Generally, if you can hear the pump, it is working. Good luck on the road. We have all been there. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike MacLean Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:58 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye Went to a 50s type car show today with the Bugeye. After leaving the house found out the tank was dry. Made the Facet pump go crazy, but filled it up and went to the show. Traveled at least 15 miles to the show with no problem. Car sat all afternoon. Just left the show and the car died. The fuel pump is working, but sounds muted. Car acts like it is not getting gas, but the fuel filter near the carb is full. What does a Facet pump sound like when it is going bad? Clogged fuel line? Mike MacLean stuck on the side of the road. From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Aug 5 22:19:42 2012 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 23:19:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye References: Message-ID: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200> Mike, I have had two Facet pumps fail in the last 15 years and both were due to being run dry. I looked into it and was told by someone that the Facet pump cools the electronics by having fuel pumped through it. I do remember the pump making some noise but not normal when it was fried. Now that I carry a spare I haven't had one go bad. Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike MacLean" < Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:57 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye Went to a 50s type car show today with the Bugeye. After leaving the house found out the tank was dry. Made the Facet pump go crazy, but filled it up and went to the show. Traveled at least 15 miles to the show with no problem. Car sat all afternoon. Just left the show and the car died. The fuel pump is working, but sounds muted. Car acts like it is not getting gas, but the fuel filter near the carb is full. What does a Facet pump sound like when it is going bad? Clogged fuel line? Mike MacLean stuck on the side of the road. ------------------------ From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Aug 5 22:47:34 2012 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:47:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Problem solved. As many of you will have guessed by now, the fuel filter was clogged with sediment from the tank. I took the fuel line off before the filter by the carb and turned the key on. Fuel flow was steady and strong. Tossed the filter. I used a piece of clear plastic tubing as long as the filter that fit into the fuel line to bypass the filter. Car started right up and got me home with no problems. I should have put 2 + 2 together with running on empty and acting like it was not getting gas. I think I'm getting slower in my old age. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2012, at 19:57, Mike MacLean wrote: > Went to a 50s type car show today with the Bugeye. After leaving the house > found out the tank was dry. Made the Facet pump go crazy, but filled it up > and went to the show. Traveled at least 15 miles to the show with no problem. > Car sat all afternoon. Just left the show and the car died. The fuel pump > is working, but sounds muted. Car acts like it is not getting gas, but the > fuel filter near the carb is full. What does a Facet pump sound like when it > is going bad? Clogged fuel line? > Mike MacLean stuck on the side of the road. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Aug 5 22:54:08 2012 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:54:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200> References: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200> Message-ID: Mark, The car runs fine now, but the pump does not sound the same. It sounds quieter than before. I guess I'll replace it just I'm case and try not to run it dry again. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2012, at 21:19, "Mark" wrote: > Mike, > > I have had two Facet pumps fail in the last 15 years and both were due to > being run dry. I looked into it and was told by someone that the Facet pump > cools the electronics by having fuel pumped through it. I do remember the > pump making some noise but not normal when it was fried. Now that I carry a > spare I haven't had one go bad. > > Mark > Nashville > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike MacLean" < > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:57 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye > > > Went to a 50s type car show today with the Bugeye. After leaving the house > found out the tank was dry. Made the Facet pump go crazy, but filled it up > and went to the show. Traveled at least 15 miles to the show with no > problem. > Car sat all afternoon. Just left the show and the car died. The fuel pump > is working, but sounds muted. Car acts like it is not getting gas, but the > fuel filter near the carb is full. What does a Facet pump sound like when > it > is going bad? Clogged fuel line? > Mike MacLean stuck on the side of the road. > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From dwramsey at att.net Mon Aug 6 01:54:10 2012 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 00:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200> Message-ID: <1344239650.22674.YahooMailRC@web180501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mike try the FBR20, Walbro 6805 replacement from APEusa.com. Sure it cost $155, but is rated to run dry for more that a hour with no damage and should last the life of your car. Crash From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Aug 6 05:33:01 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: <1344239650.22674.YahooMailRC@web180501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200> <1344239650.22674.YahooMailRC@web180501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1344252781.6742.YahooMailNeo@web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Running dry for an hour? For the really dense Spridgeteer? BTW, isn't running dry the ultimate oxymoron? Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ Mike try the FBR20, Walbro 6805 replacement from APEusa.com. Sure it cost $155, but is rated to run dry for more that a hour with no damage and should last the life of your car. Crash ------------------------ From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 05:55:40 2012 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:55:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: <1344239650.22674.YahooMailRC@web180501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200> <1344239650.22674.YahooMailRC@web180501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think you meant FRB20. -T On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:54 AM, wrote: > Mike try the FBR20, Walbro 6805 replacement from APEusa.com. Sure it cost > $155, > but is rated to run dry for more that a hour with no damage and should > last the > life of your car. > Crash > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 6 06:05:00 2012 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:05:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Healey Week on Car Crazy Message-ID: I watched maguire's Car Crazy on Speed last night. They featured Healey Week from Big Bear Lake in California.The featured mostly Big Healey's but alsotalked to owners of 2 Bugeye's and a 62.I didn't recognize any names from this list.They also featured the guy that was driving his big Healeyaround the country for Cancer awareness, I forget his name atm.It's also on again today at 430pm eastern and next weekend on the 12th at 8 am eastern. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 6 06:05:35 2012 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (Tncarnut1) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:05:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye Message-ID: Mike, I have no Facet experience, but have been around electric pumps for many years thru work and hobby. Many of them actually use the fuel to help manage the pump temperature. When you run them dry, they can overheat and fry very quickly.B If it sounds significantly different from normal, this is probably what happened. I'm guessing the damage was done, but it somehow managed to live on for the 15 miles to the show before giving up the ghost. Good luck, and I hope this is your problem because it is a simple one to fix. (I assume since you posted this yesterday, you've already dealt with dragging it home one way or another) B - David >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Mike MacLean wrote: Went to a 50s type car show today with the Bugeye.B After leaving the house found out the tank was dry.B Made the Facet pump go crazy, but filled it up and went to the show. Traveled at least 15 miles to the show with no problem. Car sat all afternoon.B Just left the show and the car died.B B The fuel pump is working, but sounds muted.B Car acts like it is not getting gas, but the fuel filter near the carb is full.B What does a Facet pump sound like when it is going bad?B Clogged fuel line? Mike MacLean stuck on the side of the road. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Aug 6 06:45:23 2012 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 05:45:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <156245296.20120806054523@pacifier.com> Hello Mike, Someone somewhere recommended an AIRTEX fuel pump as being super reliable. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "Yes, I have been reading Voltaire," Tom admitted candidly. From peter at nosimport.com Mon Aug 6 07:45:22 2012 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:45:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mail recovery in Atlanta? In-Reply-To: <03F690FE41B046D8919F400F4D71E327@spider> References: <03F690FE41B046D8919F400F4D71E327@spider> Message-ID: <20120806134528.DB5B69A453A@mx2.netinteraction.com> There should be some lever shocks in there, too. Peter C - At 01:44 PM 8/5/2012, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: >Is somebody looking for a job in the Atlanta, GA area? > >How about bidding on mail items and returning them to their owners for a >Finder's Fee? > >Look for a package with Corvallis Oregon on it $$$. Bill in Oregon > > > >Mail Recovery Center > >5345 Fulton Industrial Blvd SW > >Atlanta GA 30378-2400 > > > >Here is a list of their auction dates: > > > >August 15, 2012 - Wednesday > >September 19, 2012 - Wednesday > >October 17, 2012 - Wednesday > >November 14, 2012 - Wednesday > >December 12, 2012 - Wednesday > > from http://about.usps.com/doing-business/auctions/welcome.htm > > > >Directions: From Interstate 20 East or West, exit at Fulton Industrial >Boulevard and continue South for approximately 3 miles. After 3 miles, exit >right onto Bucknell Drive, then right at the next street which is Bucknell >Court. Follow this drive around to the stop sign and the Mail Recovery >Center will be on the right. > >Inspection of Merchandise: 8:30 am - 10:00 am >Auction Time: 10:00 am - Completion From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 08:16:43 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:16:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay Message-ID: I've listed it on Ebay with a fairly healthy reserve. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&item=190711282557 Rick Bastedo From nases at verizon.net Mon Aug 6 08:32:19 2012 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:32:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] mail recovery in Atlanta? In-Reply-To: <20120806134528.DB5B69A453A@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <03F690FE41B046D8919F400F4D71E327@spider> <20120806134528.DB5B69A453A@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <777C85A3-B1C5-41CC-83CD-CB77374C8303@verizon.net> And some brake parts Frank sent me about 5 years ago. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > There should be some lever shocks in there, too. > > Peter C > - > At 01:44 PM 8/5/2012, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: >> Is somebody looking for a job in the Atlanta, GA area? >> >> How about bidding on mail items and returning them to their owners for a >> Finder's Fee? >> >> Look for a package with Corvallis Oregon on it $$$. Bill in Oregon From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 10:02:18 2012 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:02:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200> Message-ID: <95099BDB7A3F42C5ACE50D6E931B7B89@Snoopy> Mike, If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My facet pump sometimes sounds so loud I can hear it over the engine noise. Other times I have to listen very intently to hear it. Been in use for 7 years now and it has done that the whole time. Again, if it ain't broke, don't fis it. Jeff Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Mike MacLean Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 11:54 PM To: Mark Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye It sounds quieter than before. I guess I'll replace it just I'm case and try not to run it dry again. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2012, at 21:19, "Mark" wrote: > Mike, > > I have had two Facet pumps fail in the last 15 years and both were due to > being run dry. I looked into it and was told by someone that the Facet > pump > cools the electronics by having fuel pumped through it. I do remember the > pump making some noise but not normal when it was fried. Now that I carry > a > spare I haven't had one go bad. > > Mark > Nashville > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike MacLean" < > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:57 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye > > > Went to a 50s type car show today with the Bugeye. After leaving the > house > found out the tank was dry. Made the Facet pump go crazy, but filled it > up > and went to the show. Traveled at least 15 miles to the show with no > problem. > Car sat all afternoon. Just left the show and the car died. The fuel pump > is working, but sounds muted. Car acts like it is not getting gas, but > the > fuel filter near the carb is full. What does a Facet pump sound like when > it > is going bad? Clogged fuel line? > Mike MacLean stuck on the side of the road. > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye at gmail.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Aug 6 11:00:36 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye Message-ID: <264f9.3c4f1e2e.3d515234@aol.com> Mine sounded a lot like a regular spridget pump going bad - quiet. In a message dated 06/08/2012 04:22:51 GMT Daylight Time, rrengineer.mike at att.net writes: What does a Facet pump sound like when it is going bad? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Aug 6 11:07:15 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay Message-ID: <268cb.65f19116.3d5153c3@aol.com> I hope this isn't your one and only Sprite you are selling. A wise move to tell the list the listing it should save you from the savaging the list gives to any Spridget listed on ebay! In a message dated 06/08/2012 15:37:03 GMT Daylight Time, rbastedo at gmail.com writes: I've listed it on Ebay with a fairly healthy reserve. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&item=190711282557 Rick Bastedo ------------------------ From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 11:25:49 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:25:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay In-Reply-To: <268cb.65f19116.3d5153c3@aol.com> References: <268cb.65f19116.3d5153c3@aol.com> Message-ID: I hadn't thought of that but you make a very good point indeed. Also the reserve is $3k so anyone wanting to place bids just know what the limits of safety are... Rick (not asking for anything shifty...) Bastedo On Aug 6, 2012 10:07 AM, wrote: > ** > I hope this isn't your one and only Sprite you are selling. > > A wise move to tell the list the listing it should save you from the > savaging the list gives to any Spridget listed on ebay! > > > In a message dated 06/08/2012 15:37:03 GMT Daylight Time, > rbastedo at gmail.com writes: > > I've listed it on Ebay with a fairly healthy reserve. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&item=190711282557 > > Rick Bastedo > ------------------------ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Aug 6 18:56:04 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 'The Bishop" is on eBay Message-ID: <1344300964.13418.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> http://tinyurl.com/8wezpvh Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 19:20:40 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:20:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 'The Bishop" is on eBay In-Reply-To: <1344300964.13418.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1344300964.13418.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow. That is a nice piece of Spridget history. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Aug 6 22:38:47 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:38:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 'The Bishop" is on eBay In-Reply-To: References: <1344300964.13418.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50209BD7.5090605@justbrits.com> UNDER-STATEMENT.............. <> a TRUE and accurate UNDER-STATEMENT, dreF ! ! ! Ed From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Tue Aug 7 00:01:50 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:01:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] the "Bishop" Message-ID: I haven't heard from Sev in a while, so not sure if his email is unchanged and sending this to the group, just in case. Sev, you out there? I thought this would interest you. Gerard http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Mk-1-Bugeye-Bugeye-1960-Austin-Healey-Sprite-Mk-1-Bugeye-original-stage-5-race-car-/300756304918?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4606790416.#ht_1403wt_1164 From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 7 14:25:34 2012 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gearhead (Jr.) NO LBC *** Message-ID: <1344371134.81733.YahooMailNeo@web39304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is a gearhead (and driver) in the making! Watch as a toddler makes some serious upgrades to his power wheels car. Links below. Enjoy! http://blog.powerblocktv.com/?p=4031 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Aug 8 15:16:35 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 17:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC Message-ID: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related) From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Wed Aug 8 19:28:49 2012 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (Michael Myers) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 21:28:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC In-Reply-To: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> References: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> Message-ID: Those two-stroke diesels can be really strange. I remember getting one to run backwards when I tried to start a GMC Coach bus by popping the clutch - thought it was in reverse but it was actually in second gear when I rolled it backwards. Realized something was wrong when the black smoke poured out the air intakes. Mike Myers On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related_ > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related) > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mdmyers_ct at juno.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Aug 8 19:49:03 2012 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re2: Message-ID: <1344476943.97041.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web184504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> http://grupotecno.com.mx/ggwponh.php?profile=233 You can work today comfortable from your home _______________ THEY was fetching a very nice-looking old gentleman along, and anice-looking younger one, with his right arm in a sling. kellin ainslie Thu, 9 Aug 2012 2:49:03 From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 21:46:36 2012 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 23:46:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC In-Reply-To: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> References: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM, wrote: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related) -------------------------------------------------------- Any decent mechanic knows that you never use starting fluid on a 2 stroke! I guess these guys are not decent mechanics... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 8 21:57:39 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:57:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> Message-ID: Starting fluid is not uncommon for use on Diesels, especially worn out Diesels. You should know two things, though, before starting Diesels like that: 1. How to effectively cut off the air. 2. How to effectively cut off the fuel. It ate whatever it sucked from the kids hand. Whatever it was surely went through the blower and into the chamber, probably out the exhaust. From lmacy at mac.com Thu Aug 9 04:13:22 2012 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:13:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> Message-ID: <75ECEEF5-0FE6-4929-88C4-7486CF611598@mac.com> Back in the day, when I worked for Caterpillar, one of the common things found on all the mechanics benches was a can or 2 of starter spray. And I would not try to tell those guys they were not decent mechanics ;-) When I worked on Waukesha engines, mostly fueled by natural gas, we also used starter spray. Although it was not nearly so prevalent. Larry On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:46 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related_ > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related) > -------------------------------------------------------- > Any decent mechanic knows that you never use starting fluid on a 2 > stroke! I guess these guys are not decent mechanics... > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Aug 9 06:20:33 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 05:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC In-Reply-To: <75ECEEF5-0FE6-4929-88C4-7486CF611598@mac.com> References: <4681c.75aea7f7.3d543133@aol.com> <75ECEEF5-0FE6-4929-88C4-7486CF611598@mac.com> Message-ID: <1344514833.61647.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Saw on another forum that a brand name of starter spray in Oz is "Start Ya Bastard!" Perfect! Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Larry Macy To: CosmicMag1380 Cc: Spridgets Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC Back in the day, when I worked for Caterpillar, one of the common things found on all the mechanics benches was a can or 2 of starter spray. And I would not try to tell those guys they were not decent mechanics ;-) When I worked on Waukesha engines, mostly fueled by natural gas, we also used starter spray. Although it was not nearly so prevalent. Larry From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Aug 9 10:33:15 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 12:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC Message-ID: <2418d.3bbb08c8.3d55404b@aol.com> Interesting, I never knew it was a 2 stroke diesel. All the 2 stroke diesels I've seen have been really small like for hand operated pavement rollers. Yep, if a diesel needs a lot of 'easy start' it must be knackered. Yep, I like to know how to switch something off before I try to switch it on - I'd have expected they'd have had a fuel cut-off or an air cut off (choke). I liked it when the youngest mechanic ran away! In a message dated 09/08/2012 04:46:37 GMT Daylight Time, cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com writes: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM, wrote: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related) -------------------------------------------------------- Any decent mechanic knows that you never use starting fluid on a 2 stroke! I guess these guys are not decent mechanics... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Aug 9 14:53:48 2012 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:53:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleveland Message-ID: <4CC328BDCD5F44269177790DE3044C66@Home> Anyone on this list live in Cleveland? Michael Rowe From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 16:24:51 2012 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:24:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Overheating Enigma with a PT Cruiser Message-ID: My wife never wanted a particular car until the PT Cruiser came along . . she like the "round shape" of the body. That "round shape" has been the cause of a lot of problems for us. After trading our 2001 model in the dealer discovered problems with the rear suspension and the manual gear box (not the clutch). I know this because my son was the finance mgr at that dealership per which he said that we barely escaped some costly repairs and the dealer did not find out until after we traded it in. Then as stupid as we could be I bought her a new 2004 turbo. Front wheel bearings gone at 74k miles. . air pump gone at 75k. . . Here is the question. This last weekend we were driving from the Bay area to So Cal when the car overheated 300 miles from home. When I put alumni seal in the system, it seemed to behave again . . but soon after it began to over heat a second time. Much money spent later . . . we rented a U Haul truck and dolly to get the car back home. It is now at my mechanics place . . a guy I have known and trusted for 17 years. And he just told me that he cannot find the reason for the over heating problem. He replaced the thermostat and he tells me that it is not the water pump. It looks like the radiator is blocked . . . which he is checking. But he is not sure until he does some more testing. The temp reading on the radiator was 190 at the top and 150 at the bottom. Sounds kind of towards the low side (150 at the bottom) while the car is under load and fully warmed up. Maybe someone on the list has an idea as to what else could be checked? Thanks. . . Kirk From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Aug 9 16:45:15 2012 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:45:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question Message-ID: Does anyone know the name of the font used for the Austin Healey Sprite logo? I'm thinking of the logo used after the BE's on the dash. Tim Collins From gmari2 at verizon.net Thu Aug 9 20:57:26 2012 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question In-Reply-To: <20120809224234.D4B222D083E@autox.team.net> References: <20120809224234.D4B222D083E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Gerry Coker the original designer of the sprite is at a meet here in new jersey for the next few days. I'll ask him if he recalls. George Sent from my iPad On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Tim Collins wrote: > Does anyone know the name of the font used for the Austin Healey Sprite logo? I'm thinking of the logo used after the BE's on the dash. > > Tim Collins > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Aug 10 05:05:03 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:05:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question In-Reply-To: References: <20120809224234.D4B222D083E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Do you have a picture you could point to on the internet? Bill in Corvallis ========================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George MARINOS Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:57 PM To: Tim Collins Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question Gerry Coker the original designer of the sprite is at a meet here in new jersey for the next few days. I'll ask him if he recalls. George Sent from my iPad ==================================== On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Tim Collins wrote: > Does anyone know the name of the font used for the Austin Healey Sprite logo? I'm thinking of the logo used after the BE's on the dash. > > Tim Collins > ------------------------ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 10 05:45:18 2012 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:45:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: <547f.6f8f1bb6.3d4ed713@aol.com> References: <547f.6f8f1bb6.3d4ed713@aol.com> Message-ID: Like these???? http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/atlantis-fails-to-protect-norway-from-pea ce-you-think-757710/1/20 or http://tinyurl.com/9hxvzyt or this??? http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=3494169 Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:50:43 -0400 > To: lbc77mg at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > > You could fit a BDA if you had the funds and have something faster and > lighter than an 'Atlantis Midget' > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 30/07/2012 16:03:27 GMT Daylight Time, lbc77mg at gmail.com > writes: > > Hey, Chris, > > Can you fit the Cosworth engine in a Spridget? That twin cam should be > good. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > ------------------------ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 10 05:48:26 2012 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:48:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: <1343708865.16250.YahooMailClassic@web184505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><4AD5E0037723490D84E8B94860E64AFB@leosHP>, <501E8653.8030704@justbrits.com>, Message-ID: Build a man a fire and he'll keep warm for the night, Set a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life!! ;-) Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > From: grday at btinternet.com > To: shop at justbrits.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:50:52 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > > Show him how to catch a fish and he'll feed himself for life.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "" Just Brits " Shop" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" > > > > << On 8/5/2012 9:29 AM, 60bugeye at cebridge.net wrote: > >> Now mister smarty pants find..... >> > > > > Doesn't he have 47,997 more 'hoses' to peruse, Leo ? ? ? > > > > LOL ! From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 10 05:58:08 2012 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:58:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye In-Reply-To: <95099BDB7A3F42C5ACE50D6E931B7B89@Snoopy> References: <2BE638570F46442FAD381D34F66D35B3@Dell9200>, , <95099BDB7A3F42C5ACE50D6E931B7B89@Snoopy> Message-ID: Alternately, If it's fixed, don't Broke it! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye > > Mike, > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My facet pump sometimes sounds so loud I > can hear it over the engine noise. Other times I have to listen very > intently to hear it. Been in use for 7 years now and it has done that the > whole time. > Again, if it ain't broke, don't fis it. > > Jeff Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike MacLean Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dead Bugeye > > > It sounds quieter than before. I guess I'll replace it just I'm case and > try not to run > it dry again. > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 5, 2012, at 21:19, "Mark" wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > I have had two Facet pumps fail in the last 15 years and both were due to > > being run dry. I looked into it and was told by someone that the Facet > > pump > > cools the electronics by having fuel pumped through it. I do remember the > > pump making some noise but not normal when it was fried. Now that I carry > > a > > spare I haven't had one go bad. > > > > Mark > > Nashville From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Aug 10 09:39:59 2012 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:39:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question In-Reply-To: References: <20120809224234.D4B222D083E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: At 07:05 AM 8/10/2012, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: >Do you have a picture you could point to on the internet? Bill in Corvallis >========================= > Yes, Like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/2566093598/in/set-72157603574197943 or http://tinyurl.com/bw28k3t or this one in a car on the dash http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagetaker1/3709671780/ or http://tinyurl.com/8t4ae35 Tim Collins From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 11:16:55 2012 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:16:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question In-Reply-To: References: <20120809224234.D4B222D083E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <832DA1742FD04B3587C17D5FF0CC95DC@Snoopy> If he happens to know that, also ask him about the font used for the original Sprite with the arrow on the boot of the BE. Jeff Kelly -----Original Message----- From: George MARINOS Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:57 PM To: Tim Collins Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question Gerry Coker the original designer of the sprite is at a meet here in new jersey for the next few days. I'll ask him if he recalls. George Sent from my iPad On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Tim Collins wrote: > Does anyone know the name of the font used for the Austin Healey Sprite logo? I'm thinking of the logo used after the BE's on the dash. > > Tim Collins > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gmari2 at verizon.net ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye at gmail.com From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Aug 10 11:22:33 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question In-Reply-To: <832DA1742FD04B3587C17D5FF0CC95DC@Snoopy> References: <20120809224234.D4B222D083E@autox.team.net> <832DA1742FD04B3587C17D5FF0CC95DC@Snoopy> Message-ID: <551CF961-3BE5-42B0-9FFC-E92E8C9D45E0@chartermi.net> I'm betting there was no "font" used and that the badges were simply drawn by a designer. Sent from my keyboard On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:16 PM, "JeffG-Mail" wrote: > If he happens to know that, also ask him about the font used for the original Sprite with the arrow on the boot of the BE. > > Jeff Kelly From edwd at ti.com Fri Aug 10 12:33:43 2012 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:33:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] PT cruiser overheat Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3E323E71@DLEE01.ent.ti.com> I did a quick google search of PT Cruiser overheating and found many responses. The most popular seems to be 'high side fan inoperable' which requires a high speed fan motor. Do the search though, there is a PT group much like this one. HTH, Ed (Dallas) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Aug 10 14:17:03 2012 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:17:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Overheating Enigma with a PT Cruiser In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Temp sender bad with no actual overheating? Lester Minimal typing from the iPhone On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > My wife never wanted a particular car until the PT Cruiser came along . . > she like the "round shape" of the body. > > That "round shape" has been the cause of a lot of problems for us. > > After trading our 2001 model in the dealer discovered problems with the > rear suspension and the manual gear box (not the clutch). > > I know this because my son was the finance mgr at that dealership per which > he said that we barely escaped some costly repairs and the dealer did not > find out until after we traded it in. > > Then as stupid as we could be I bought her a new 2004 turbo. > > Front wheel bearings gone at 74k miles. . air pump gone at 75k. . . > > Here is the question. This last weekend we were driving from the Bay area > to So Cal when the car overheated 300 miles from home. When I put alumni > seal in the system, it seemed to behave again . . but soon after it began > to over heat a second time. > > Much money spent later . . . we rented a U Haul truck and dolly to get the > car back home. > > It is now at my mechanics place . . a guy I have known and trusted for 17 > years. And he just told me that he cannot find the reason for the over > heating problem. He replaced the thermostat and he tells me that it is not > the water pump. It looks like the radiator is blocked . . . which he is > checking. But he is not sure until he does some more testing. The temp > reading on the radiator was 190 at the top and 150 at the bottom. > > Sounds kind of towards the low side (150 at the bottom) while the car is > under load and fully warmed up. > > Maybe someone on the list has an idea as to what else could be checked? > > Thanks. . . > > Kirk > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Aug 10 16:45:54 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No Bids on the Bishop Message-ID: <1344638754.6992.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Flounder, You still have a shot: http://tinyurl.com/8wezpvh Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Aug 10 16:51:28 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:51:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No Bids on the Bishop In-Reply-To: <1344638754.6992.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1344638754.6992.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C5185B2-AFB6-4F95-9A04-FABBC006615F@snet.net> I love Sprites but how many of these cars change hands for $19,000? Jay On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:45 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Flounder, > > You still have a shot: http://tinyurl.com/8wezpvh From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 10 17:04:56 2012 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:04:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] No Bids on the Bishop In-Reply-To: <1344638754.6992.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1344638754.6992.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1F1CD6BA936F48619318F5236F04BE95@HomePC> Really? No bids on this ridiculously over-priced, run-of-the-mill, nothing special, old race car like a million others? No famous past owners. (And who cares if there was any.) No incredible performance capabilities. (It will be killed by any decent modern day race car.) Not particularly well kept. I'm shocked! Why doesn't anybody want it? Especially at this crazy price? Seems to me that he bought it on a whim and now hopes to recoup his poorly thought out purchase. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: HealeyRick Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:45 PM To: Spridgets List ; thicko Subject: [Thicko] No Bids on the Bishop Flounder, You still have a shot: http://tinyurl.com/8wezpvh Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo _______________________________________________ Team-thicko at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/team-thicko/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Aug 10 20:52:34 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:52:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question In-Reply-To: <551CF961-3BE5-42B0-9FFC-E92E8C9D45E0@chartermi.net> References: <20120809224234.D4B222D083E@autox.team.net><832DA1742FD04B3587C17D5FF0CC95DC@Snoopy> <551CF961-3BE5-42B0-9FFC-E92E8C9D45E0@chartermi.net> Message-ID: You may be right. The capital S has serifs and the other cap letters don't. I can come close with Franklin Gothic Demi, but italics doesn't lean it over enough. ...bill in oregon ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 10:23 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Graphics Arts question I'm betting there was no "font" used and that the badges were simply drawn by a designer. Sent from my keyboard ======================================== On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:16 PM, "JeffG-Mail" wrote: > If he happens to know that, also ask him about the font used for the original Sprite with the arrow on the boot of the BE. > > Jeff Kelly ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Aug 11 12:19:20 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:19:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 11:18am Saturday Message-ID: <4DF51642FB40416181359CEA7F527A38@spider> Looking for John Burkhimer. I have the support bracket for the air cleaner I sold you. Bill in Corvallis From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Aug 11 12:47:03 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:47:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: <1343432386.8621.YahooMailClassic@web184503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5013575A.4080408@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Someone talking about me? Robert Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. On 2012-07-28, at 10:57 AM, derf wrote: > There are plenty of listers full of NOS hot air. > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: >> Anyone know where I can get NOS air for my tires? > ------------------------ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Aug 11 12:59:24 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:59:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not much has changed with 'the cars' in the past couple of years. You've seen this before: http://tinyurl.com/9ax9fl9 http://tinyurl.com/8w33uk9 Robert Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. On 2012-07-23, at 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > I see many names and I know the status of some of your cars, but let's have > an update. > > I'll start: > I have a 1958 Bugeye with a supercharged (Moss) 1275 and datsun 5 speed. > It is driveable, but needs body/paint/interior. > I also have a 1970/2 Midget that has decent body/paint and a 5 speed, but > needs an engine rebuild... I want to do a fuel injected turbo. > I was just given a 1977 Midget. If I can get the title clear, I'll patch > it up and sell it on. > > Anyone else like to do a status update? > > -Trevor > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robertduquette at sympatico.ca From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Aug 11 13:03:51 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:03:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: <1d977.4254f1ed.3d40460e@aol.com> References: <1d977.4254f1ed.3d40460e@aol.com> Message-ID: With all that you wrote, somehow "anti tramp bar fabrication" caught my attention! Are you building a night club with a strict dress code? ;) Robert I intend to live forever, or die trying. On 2012-07-24, at 2:40 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > > The anti-tramp bar fabrication project is hold pending calculations and > enthusiasm. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Aug 11 16:33:17 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" Message-ID: <563bb.7b7a39a.3d5837ac@aol.com> No, over here that would be an anti-tart bar or anti-slut bar or anti-slag bar and there's simply no market for that kind of bar! In a message dated 11/08/2012 20:04:05 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: With all that you wrote, somehow "anti tramp bar fabrication" caught my attention! Are you building a night club with a strict dress code? ;) Robert I intend to live forever, or die trying. On 2012-07-24, at 2:40 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > > The anti-tramp bar fabrication project is hold pending calculations and > enthusiasm. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Aug 11 16:50:22 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:50:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: <563bb.7b7a39a.3d5837ac@aol.com> References: <563bb.7b7a39a.3d5837ac@aol.com> Message-ID: :). I had to look up 'slag' as my known definition was of mining waste. In my carousing days, it was common to use 'slagging' as a term for lessening a reputation verbally. ie: "Hey! You're slagging me!" RD On 2012-08-11, at 6:33 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > No, over here that would be an anti-tart bar or anti-slut bar or anti-slag bar and there's simply no market for that kind of bar! > > > In a message dated 11/08/2012 20:04:05 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > With all that you wrote, somehow "anti tramp bar fabrication" caught my > attention! Are you building a night club with a strict dress code? ;) > > Robert > I intend to live forever, or die trying. > > On 2012-07-24, at 2:40 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > > > > > The anti-tramp bar fabrication project is hold pending calculations and > > enthusiasm. From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Aug 11 19:19:20 2012 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:19:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 02:59 PM 8/11/2012, Robert Duquette wrote: >Not much has changed with 'the cars' in the past couple of years. > >You've seen this before: >http://tinyurl.com/9ax9fl9 There's something in your garage in the 5th picture that the majority of the folks on this list will not be able to identify. In the picture with the snowblower (easy to identify) there's a picture of a "Yooper Scooper" to the left (or whatever you call them in Canada.) A Yooper Scooper is an open sided "pan" with a handle so one can scoop snow and move it to another location without having to lift anything. They work real well if you have a sloping yard so you have a "cliff" to dump the scoop. See one in action here: http://www.silverbear.biz/ I had one along with a CJ7 Jeep with blade, a Ford 1200 tractor with a 4 foot wide two-stage snowblower on front and a blade on the rear, a walk behind 8HP snowblower, a roof rake, and an assortment of snow shovels. I sold them all and moved to Southern Michigan. The first Winter here I went to Walmart and bought a plastic snow shovel. Life is good now!! Tim Collins From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Aug 11 19:34:29 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:34:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) Message-ID: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> I don't like seeing a modern radio mounted in a British sports car, and an original Leyland radio is a rare item. I know..I know..I should be content with the pleasant exhaust note. But sometimes it would be nice to listen to a traffic report or maybe some vintage tunes..or maybe a book on tape for the long rides. So I'm OK with a concealed or headless unit. Something I can tuck up under the Bugeye dash. How about one that plays mp3 files off of SD card or USB, has 60w output, is compact, and has a nice little remote? How about the whole deal for $12 and free shipping? http://tinyurl.com/4ytsyg7 No vested interest. I'll let you know what it is like when it gets here. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 11 19:40:17 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:40:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: I just bought a USB auto diagnostic interface adapter from DX after reading about them on a few online forums. I, too, am curious about their products and service. I probably woulda bought one of those MP3 players, too, if I'd known about them. Please let us know how it turns out. I've been waiting for the usual suspects (Sony, Pioneer, Alpine) to make a decent, small, non-CD tuner and media player. So far I've gotten one from JVC but haven't installed it, yet. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 11 19:49:46 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:49:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: Looks mono, but that's not always a deal breaker. Also, is there an antenna? From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Aug 11 19:51:50 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:51:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: <0CA4146363CE4A5289C0048E14B1AFC7@blackbox2> I bought one of their ODB readers also. The only downside to dealextreme is if you order multiple items. They are often out of stock on something. It might take months for that last item to arrive. I don't expect much of this little player. Heck I'm not even sure if it's stereo. But I don't care. I just want something basic in the Bugeye. I'm not looking for (or expecting) high fidelity. In fact, mounting a single little speaker suites me fine. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] I just bought a USB auto diagnostic interface adapter from DX after reading about them on a few online forums. I, too, am curious about their products and service. I probably woulda bought one of those MP3 players, too, if I'd known about them. Please let us know how it turns out. I've been waiting for the usual suspects (Sony, Pioneer, Alpine) to make a decent, small, non-CD tuner and media player. So far I've gotten one from JVC but haven't installed it, yet. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 11 19:54:11 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:54:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: <0CA4146363CE4A5289C0048E14B1AFC7@blackbox2> References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> <0CA4146363CE4A5289C0048E14B1AFC7@blackbox2> Message-ID: If you plan to have one speaker then the mono is better anyway. I order from sites like DX or monoprice occasionally, usually stock up on things like cables and adapters that I feel are overpriced like HDMI adapters and cables. From gmari2 at verizon.net Sat Aug 11 22:45:39 2012 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George MARINOS) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/2 elliptic spring Message-ID: <4FBC0D2B-A66B-4861-99EF-2498934D14B6@verizon.net> Hi group, Can anyone turn me onto a pair of 1/2 elliptic springs for a mkiii sprite? Any leads would be appeciated George Nj From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Aug 12 08:09:09 2012 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:09:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Since the list has been "quiet" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, my driveway is special. It's boxed in and, to oversimplify, slants towards the garage. I don't want water in the garage, so I move the snow past the city sidewalk and let the melt go onto the street. The big problem is that the city sidewalk has been raised over the more than half-century since the house was built and it dams the damned water. Robert Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. On 2012-08-11, at 9:19 PM, Tim Collins wrote: > At 02:59 PM 8/11/2012, Robert Duquette wrote: >> Not much has changed with 'the cars' in the past couple of years. >> >> You've seen this before: >> http://tinyurl.com/9ax9fl9 > > There's something in your garage in the 5th picture that the majority of the folks on this list will not be able to identify. In the picture with the snowblower (easy to identify) there's a picture of a "Yooper Scooper" to the left (or whatever you call them in Canada.) A Yooper Scooper is an open sided "pan" with a handle so one can scoop snow and move it to another location without having to lift anything. They work real well if you have a sloping yard so you have a "cliff" to dump the scoop. See one in action here: http://www.silverbear.biz/ > > I had one along with a CJ7 Jeep with blade, a Ford 1200 tractor with a 4 foot wide two-stage snowblower on front and a blade on the rear, a walk behind 8HP snowblower, a roof rake, and an assortment of snow shovels. I sold them all and moved to Southern Michigan. The first Winter here I went to Walmart and bought a plastic snow shovel. Life is good now!! > > > Tim Collins From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 12 10:14:13 2012 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:14:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Overheating Enigma with a PT Cruiser In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Make sure the fans are working correctly. Radiator cap ok? If it's running at 190, warmed up and under load, it's not overheating. Pressurized, boiling temp would be in the 230 range. 190 at top and 150 at bottom? If it has sufficient flow coming out the bottom, sounds like radiator is cooling very well. May not hurt to flush to whole cooling system to be sure. let us know what you find. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:24:51 -0700 > From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Overheating Enigma with a PT Cruiser > > Here is the question. This last weekend we were driving from the Bay area > to So Cal when the car overheated 300 miles from home. When I put alumni > seal in the system, it seemed to behave again . . but soon after it began > to over heat a second time. > It is now at my mechanics place . . a guy I have known and trusted for 17 > years. And he just told me that he cannot find the reason for the over > heating problem. He replaced the thermostat and he tells me that it is not > the water pump. It looks like the radiator is blocked . . . which he is > checking. But he is not sure until he does some more testing. The temp > reading on the radiator was 190 at the top and 150 at the bottom. > > Sounds kind of towards the low side (150 at the bottom) while the car is > under load and fully warmed up. > > Maybe someone on the list has an idea as to what else could be checked? > > Thanks. . . > > Kirk > ------------------------ From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Aug 12 10:22:19 2012 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: <449685284.465759.1344788539793.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I mounted a 200 watt Sony in dash unit with 5 disc cd capabilities as well as ipod auxiliary connection under my glovebox.B I then use the remote that came with it to control the 3 way 4x6 speaker up front and the 2 6x9 4ways in the rear.B I have no probelm hearing the music at highway speeds. I just need to remember to lower it at lights.B I get a lot of strange looks otherwise.B If you want I can take pictures. Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:34:29 PM Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) I don't like seeing a modern radio mounted in a British sports car, and an original Leyland radio is a rare item. I know..I know..I should be content with the pleasant exhaust note. But sometimes it would be nice to listen to a traffic report or maybe some vintage tunes..or maybe a book on tape for the long rides. So I'm OK with a concealed or headless unit. B Something I can tuck up under the Bugeye dash. How about one that plays mp3 files off of SD card or USB, has 60w output, is compact, and has a nice little remote? How about the whole deal for $12 and free shipping? http://tinyurl.com/4ytsyg7 No vested interest. B I'll let you know what it is like when it gets here. ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Aug 12 12:29:27 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:29:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] in michigan any cool LBC, Cycle or Tech stuff to see? Message-ID: List, I'm in the Motor City what is there to see other than Ford Museum? Inlaws are cool but I need LBC, vintage speed, or tech to fill my head. Kayaking & camping on the west side later in the week but in Detroit area till then. Lin From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Aug 12 14:15:02 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:15:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] in michigan any cool LBC, Cycle or Tech stuff to see? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Au Grattan Grand Prix 17th, 18th, 19th at Grattan Raceway near Grand Rapids. Several listers will be there including me and John Deikis campaigning his '68 Midget "Works" vintage racer. http://www.varac.ca/varac/documents/others/VSCDA-201208-Grattan.pdf Rick Sent from my keyboard On Aug 12, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I'm in the Motor City what is there to see other than Ford Museum? Inlaws > are cool but I need LBC, vintage speed, or tech to fill my head. > > Kayaking & camping on the west side later in the week but in Detroit area > till then. > Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Sun Aug 12 15:08:27 2012 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:08:27 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] olympic closing cermony Message-ID: I do apologise to the confused colonials out there I haven't a clue what is going on but I did spot an MGA covered in Newspaper , a nice big healey and a black frogeye sprite drive past , but what the guys banging dustbins (trash cans) the reprobates walking round on oil drums the music from the 70's I don't know who the woman miming was and the comedian Timothy spall (he might be an actor) was he imitating Winston Churchil on the top of big ben ? - Nope I'm sorry if its music you want go to the M channel - they are rolling big cubes of sugar up a slope now with some tarts posing in slow motion - Come on britain stop being arty farty and do something worthwhile - so bring back the british cars ( bmw were the vehicle sponsor which why they were there - but they should have been Jaguars and Astons shouldn't they ? - it is London 2012 isn't it ? not Bavaria or am I missing the point., Rant over for now From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Sun Aug 12 18:39:13 2012 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:39:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] olympic closing cermony In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E3D6B30C332440E81C774864B44EB32@Snoopy> Just saw a Healey 3000 Blue over White and a Black Bug Eye. Jeff Kelly -----Original Message----- From: EASTJONES alan Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 4:08 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] olympic closing cermony I do apologise to the confused colonials out there I haven't a clue what is going on but I did spot an MGA covered in Newspaper , a nice big healey and a black frogeye sprite drive past , but what the guys banging dustbins (trash cans) the reprobates walking round on oil drums the music from the 70's I don't know who the woman miming was and the comedian Timothy spall (he might be an actor) was he imitating Winston Churchil on the top of big ben ? - Nope I'm sorry if its music you want go to the M channel - they are rolling big cubes of sugar up a slope now with some tarts posing in slow motion - Come on britain stop being arty farty and do something worthwhile - so bring back the british cars ( bmw were the vehicle sponsor which why they were there - but they should have been Jaguars and Astons shouldn't they ? - it is London 2012 isn't it ? not Bavaria or am I missing the point., Rant over for now ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye at gmail.com From stevenm at optonline.net Mon Aug 13 09:03:02 2012 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:03:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] hardtop sizes? Message-ID: <021e01cd7964$bc9208b0$35b61a10$@optonline.net> I have been offered a hardtop that used to sit on a '74. I have a '78 Midget. Are those years hardtop-compatible? I didn't ask if he had a sprite or a midget; I am guessing they're the same. Thanks, Steve From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Aug 13 09:23:23 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] hardtop sizes? In-Reply-To: <021e01cd7964$bc9208b0$35b61a10$@optonline.net> References: <021e01cd7964$bc9208b0$35b61a10$@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1344871403.71351.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Yes. It will fit. Sprite/Midget-No difference. Actually if he has it on a '74 Sprite, something is wrong because there is no such thing as a '74 Sprite. jay ________________________________ From: Steven Michelsen To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, August 13, 2012 11:03:42 AM Subject: [Spridgets] hardtop sizes? I have been offered a hardtop that used to sit on a '74. I have a '78 Midget. Are those years hardtop-compatible? I didn't ask if he had a sprite or a midget; I am guessing they're the same. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Aug 13 11:57:53 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] olympic closing cermony Message-ID: <2909b.7bdb233.3d5a9a21@aol.com> I wonder what the Germans made of Winston? I don't remember any of those old cars being made in London. The London olympics when it suits London but the British olympics when it's apparent nothing good ever came of out London, especially cars. Where can I find the tarts posing in slow motion - are they tramps for Americans? In a message dated 12/08/2012 22:09:49 GMT Daylight Time, alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com writes: I do apologise to the confused colonials out there I haven't a clue what is going on but I did spot an MGA covered in Newspaper , a nice big healey and a black frogeye sprite drive past , but what the guys banging dustbins (trash cans) the reprobates walking round on oil drums the music from the 70's I don't know who the woman miming was and the comedian Timothy spall (he might be an actor) was he imitating Winston Churchil on the top of big ben ? - Nope I'm sorry if its music you want go to the M channel - they are rolling big cubes of sugar up a slope now with some tarts posing in slow motion - Come on britain stop being arty farty and do something worthwhile - so bring back the british cars ( bmw were the vehicle sponsor which why they were there - but they should have been Jaguars and Astons shouldn't they ? - it is London 2012 isn't it ? not Bavaria or am I missing the point., Rant over for now From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 18:40:30 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:40:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: <449685284.465759.1344788539793.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> <449685284.465759.1344788539793.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: That's overkill for me. I'm going minimalist with this project. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:22 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) I mounted a 200 watt Sony in dash unit with 5 disc cd capabilities as well as ipod auxiliary connection under my glovebox.B I then use the remote that came with it to control the 3 way 4x6 speaker up front and the 2 6x9 4ways in the rear.B I have no probelm hearing the music at highway speeds. I just need to remember to lower it at lights.B I get a lot of strange looks otherwise.B If you want I can take pictures. Ryan From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Aug 13 18:50:00 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:50:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> <449685284.465759.1344788539793.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: My Midget has a radio. Don't know if it works or not - never tried to turn it on. I have better things to listen to. Like the Ferrari in my head. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:40 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > That's overkill for me. I'm going minimalist with this project. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:22 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) > > I mounted a 200 watt Sony in dash unit with 5 disc cd capabilities as well > as............... From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Mon Aug 13 21:24:34 2012 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) Message-ID: <1344914674.24906.YahooMailNeo@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Try motorcycle audio on ebay. Bill W From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Tue Aug 14 05:55:16 2012 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:55:16 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] olympic closing cermony In-Reply-To: <2909b.7bdb233.3d5a9a21@aol.com> References: <2909b.7bdb233.3d5a9a21@aol.com> Message-ID: I found aout the reason why we had a Frogeye sprite, MGA and AH 3000 on the Olympic closing ceremony look here for an intersting article http://goo.gl/4Cjqo NOTE the M25 is a 6 lane motorway that forms a bypass around the city of London - also known as the biggest parking lot in the world. Always look on the bright side of life Alan Warwick UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 13 August 2012 18:57, wrote: > ** > I wonder what the Germans made of Winston? > > I don't remember any of those old cars being made in London. The London > olympics when it suits London but the British olympics when it's apparent > nothing good ever came of out London, especially cars. > > Where can I find the tarts posing in slow motion - are they tramps for > Americans? From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 09:44:54 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:44:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just over a day to go, it's bid up to $2858 with a $3000 reserve. Hopefully a couple of the 60 watchers will really want it bad... :) Rick (gotta pay off that home depot card...) Bastedo On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I've listed it on Ebay with a fairly healthy reserve. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&item=190711282557 > > Rick Bastedo From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 10:03:32 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:03:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun A15 motor and 5 speed from a 210 Message-ID: Is anyone interested in a complete Datsun A15 1500 motor with type 60 dogleg 210 5 speed tranny? I drove the car before this was pulled so I know both the motor and trans are good. I was planning on using this setup in Peter's car but I just had to gut and rebuild our bathroom so I'm looking for a way to pay off the mounting bills. LMK if you are interested, the cool part (besides the extra power) is that no adapter is needed. Comes with shifter and all the goodies (clutch fork TO bearing etc) - no shifter knob. Before anyone asks - yes, I would split them up and sell the transmission alone for the right price. Having a spare motor for my green car does have value for me. Rick (I owe, I owe, so off to work I go) Bastedo From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 10:05:32 2012 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:05:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It all boils down to the last couple of minutes.... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Just over a day to go, it's bid up to $2858 with a $3000 reserve. > Hopefully a couple of the 60 watchers will really want it bad... :) > > Rick (gotta pay off that home depot card...) Bastedo From miniac7 at aol.com Tue Aug 14 10:09:24 2012 From: miniac7 at aol.com (Howie) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:09:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun A15 motor and 5 speed from a 210 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <541F699B-308D-4271-9372-7CA7CFCA50D7@aol.com> I nay be interested in the box alone. Please email me direct. Thank you, Howard Collins Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Is anyone interested in a complete Datsun A15 1500 motor with type 60 > dogleg 210 5 speed tranny? > I drove the car before this was pulled so I know both the motor and trans > are good. > I was planning on using this setup in Peter's car but I just had to gut and > rebuild our bathroom so I'm looking for a way to pay off the mounting bills. > LMK if you are interested, the cool part (besides the extra power) is that > no adapter is needed. > Comes with shifter and all the goodies (clutch fork TO bearing etc) - no > shifter knob. > Before anyone asks - yes, I would split them up and sell the transmission > alone for the right price. > Having a spare motor for my green car does have value for me. > > Rick (I owe, I owe, so off to work I go) Bastedo > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Aug 14 13:12:07 2012 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester Ewing) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:12:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck start - no LBC In-Reply-To: <2418d.3bbb08c8.3d55404b@aol.com> References: <2418d.3bbb08c8.3d55404b@aol.com> Message-ID: <7BF819F0-F60B-4E85-82E8-8334836E6A47@comcast.net> Just a data point here.. On the two stroke SAABs I had that same problem one time. It wasn't the starter spray, it was the fuel that had built up in the crankcase from trying to get it to start. Once the timing got right off it went. I killed the ignition, then I ripped (Yes ripped) the plug wires away, then covered all three barrels with my gloved hands. All that I could think of was that it was my new go-fast engine and it was about to blow up. Lester .. and I had disability insurance... On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:33 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Interesting, I never knew it was a 2 stroke diesel. All the 2 stroke > diesels I've seen have been really small like for hand operated pavement > rollers. > > Yep, if a diesel needs a lot of 'easy start' it must be knackered. > > Yep, I like to know how to switch something off before I try to switch it > on - I'd have expected they'd have had a fuel cut-off or an air cut off > (choke). > > I liked it when the youngest mechanic ran away! > > > In a message dated 09/08/2012 04:46:37 GMT Daylight Time, > cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com writes: > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related_ > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1o2rpO_JY&feature=related) > -------------------------------------------------------- > Any decent mechanic knows that you never use starting fluid on a 2 > stroke! I guess these guys are not decent mechanics... > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Aug 14 12:57:07 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:57:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: C'mon snipers! Sent from my keyboard On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:05 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > It all boils down to the last couple of minutes.... > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > >> Just over a day to go, it's bid up to $2858 with a $3000 reserve. >> Hopefully a couple of the 60 watchers will really want it bad... :) >> >> Rick (gotta pay off that home depot card...) Bastedo > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From pelliott at innercite.com Tue Aug 14 15:42:26 2012 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Webmail pelliott) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:42:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Last 30 seconds is when the snipers take over..... On Aug 14, 2012 1:21 PM, "Rick Fisk" wrote: > C'mon snipers! > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:05 PM, CosmicMag1380 > wrote: > > > It all boils down to the last couple of minutes.... > > Kent > > 1960 Bugeye > > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! > > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! > > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rick Bastedo > wrote: > > > >> Just over a day to go, it's bid up to $2858 with a $3000 reserve. > >> Hopefully a couple of the 60 watchers will really want it bad... :) > >> > >> Rick (gotta pay off that home depot card...) Bastedo > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 15:46:06 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:46:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've seen that a lot on Ebay. It's within $150 of reserve now, as soon as someone bids $2950 it may just pop over. This is the first time I've sold a car on Ebay, it's kind of an anxiety producing thing - this waiting around for people to bid. Rick (trying not to refresh the selling page) Bastedo On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Webmail pelliott wrote: > Last 30 seconds is when the snipers take over..... > On Aug 14, 2012 1:21 PM, "Rick Fisk" wrote: > >> C'mon snipers! >> >> Sent from my keyboard >> >> On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:05 PM, CosmicMag1380 >> wrote: >> >> > It all boils down to the last couple of minutes.... >> > Kent >> > 1960 Bugeye >> > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! >> > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Rick Bastedo >> wrote: >> > >> >> Just over a day to go, it's bid up to $2858 with a $3000 reserve. >> >> Hopefully a couple of the 60 watchers will really want it bad... :) >> >> >> >> Rick (gotta pay off that home depot card...) Bastedo >> > ------------------------ >> > >> > spridgets at autox.team.net >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com From d.swanson at earthlink.net Tue Aug 14 16:25:35 2012 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:25:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] '60 Bugeye $5000 Central North Carolina Message-ID: <01C453AE03194619BC31B8D644654559@HomeComputer> Not mine, but apparently in my little town somewhere: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3198300813.html Three photos in the ad. 1960 Austin Healey Sprite - $5000 (Holly Springs, NC) _____ Date: 2012-08-11, 8:50AM EDT Reply to: s8x2f-3198300813 at sale.craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?] _____ 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite - great restoration project or with minimal work ready to drive/enjoy! . Has the original 948cc engine . Last running/inspected ~'99 - garage kept since . In the ~mid-90's it had the following done: o Engine rebuilt o New floor boards and running boards o New seat covers o New hubcaps (AH emblems) o New paint (red) Asking $5000 OBO - ready to move! From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Aug 14 16:28:13 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:28:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My Sprite is up on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6CD2BF69-3FF1-4C6B-935B-F758400A1AEF@chartermi.net> Snipers (like me) typically wait until there are ten seconds left to bid. If you bid earlier you just raise the price and give the other bidders time to outbid you. When you bid with ten seconds left no one has time to outbid you. If you win the "auction" good. If not, it just means somebody else was willing to pay more than you. When I sold my Judson Supercharger a few years ago it went up $700 in the last 30 seconds. :-) Rick Sent from my keyboard On Aug 14, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I've seen that a lot on Ebay. > It's within $150 of reserve now, as soon as someone bids $2950 it may just pop over. > This is the first time I've sold a car on Ebay, it's kind of an anxiety producing thing - this waiting around for people to bid. > > Rick (trying not to refresh the selling page) Bastedo > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Webmail pelliott wrote: > Last 30 seconds is when the snipers take over..... > > On Aug 14, 2012 1:21 PM, "Rick Fisk" wrote: > C'mon snipers! From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 16:55:44 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:55:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun A15 motor and 5 speed from a 210 In-Reply-To: <9E3FD160-F3CD-4EFC-8F53-88A8EF8FEA7E@verizon.net> References: <179F0CE2-6941-4BDA-B968-DDB86E83F9F4@verizon.net> <9E3FD160-F3CD-4EFC-8F53-88A8EF8FEA7E@verizon.net> Message-ID: Someone else just got it, just before your message came in. If it somehow doesn't work out I will send another message. Rick On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, George MARINOS wrote: > How much and where are you located? > George From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Aug 14 17:28:32 2012 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:28:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '60 Bugeye $5000 Central North Carolina References: <01C453AE03194619BC31B8D644654559@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <541FE57570374EC3995FAF2CC1B821D1@Dell9200> All of this was done and then the car was burried for the last 15 +/- years. Why don't people at least wash a car they want to sell? It looks terrible to me. Mark . Has the original 948cc engine . Last running/inspected ~'99 - garage kept since . In the ~mid-90's it had the following done: o Engine rebuilt o New floor boards and running boards o New seat covers o New hubcaps (AH emblems) o New paint (red) Not mine, but apparently in my little town somewhere: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3198300813.html Three photos in the ad. 1960 Austin Healey Sprite - $5000 (Holly Springs, NC) _____ From jeffsbugeye at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 18:01:06 2012 From: jeffsbugeye at gmail.com (JeffG-Mail) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:01:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '60 Bugeye $5000 Central North Carolina In-Reply-To: <541FE57570374EC3995FAF2CC1B821D1@Dell9200> References: <01C453AE03194619BC31B8D644654559@HomeComputer> <541FE57570374EC3995FAF2CC1B821D1@Dell9200> Message-ID: <26F44721596541AF96E54E4DF2E443C4@Snoopy> Running boards??? Jeff Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:28 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '60 Bugeye $5000 Central North Carolina All of this was done and then the car was burried for the last 15 +/- years. Why don't people at least wash a car they want to sell? It looks terrible to me. Mark . Has the original 948cc engine . Last running/inspected ~'99 - garage kept since . In the ~mid-90's it had the following done: o Engine rebuilt o New floor boards and running boards o New seat covers o New hubcaps (AH emblems) o New paint (red) Not mine, but apparently in my little town somewhere: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3198300813.html Three photos in the ad. 1960 Austin Healey Sprite - $5000 (Holly Springs, NC) _____ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jeffsbugeye at gmail.com From d.swanson at earthlink.net Tue Aug 14 19:08:10 2012 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:08:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Or '60 Bugeye for $2000 (was: '60 Bugeye $5000 Central North Carolina) Message-ID: <7C52638226EF448B97AC4317566BA6CA@HomeComputer> Does this one look better for only $2000: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3206004031.html 1960 Austin Healey - $2000 (clayton) For sale 1960 Austin healey frog eye sprint,Do to health problems I need to sell,Was going to finish,My loss your gain, Make a heck of a mini rat rod or drag car,or restore. Have many,many, parts,motor ,twin carbs,headers,two trannys,extra front and rear shosks,rear end,steering rack,door glass,winshield,seats,wiring harnesses,all tail and head lights,bumpers.repair manuels,Way to much to list Clean title Asking $2000.oo OBO. ,Open to offers within reasson, possible part trade, I dont need no "Truck" I wont reply to emails,Taking calls only ,919-343-0520. Come take a look at it. -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '60 Bugeye $5000 Central North Carolina All of this was done and then the car was burried for the last 15 +/- years. Why don't people at least wash a car they want to sell? It looks terrible to me. Mark . Has the original 948cc engine . Last running/inspected ~'99 - garage kept since . In the ~mid-90's it had the following done: o Engine rebuilt o New floor boards and running boards o New seat covers o New hubcaps (AH emblems) o New paint (red) Not mine, but apparently in my little town somewhere: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3198300813.html Three photos in the ad. 1960 Austin Healey Sprite - $5000 (Holly Springs, NC) From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Aug 14 09:21:48 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Ins Institute for Highway Bordeom Message-ID: <1344957708.23062.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Just another reason why cars get more and more complex and more and more boring: http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/14/autos/luxury-cars-crash-test/index.html?iid=HP_LN jay From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Wed Aug 15 07:13:47 2012 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun A15 motor and 5 speed from a 210 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <860304563.202147.1345036427632.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> If anyone is interested in the Datsun 1488 engine from a 1972-3 Datsun, I have one in my basement that I will sell real cheap.B It seems to be in good condition--it has none of the smog control stuff on it but is a complete engine.B Pickup only.B Its in Andersonville, Tennessee. David C. B "Jesus Loves You". B A decent gesture in church. B A horrific thing to hear in a Mexican prison. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" To: "George MARINOS" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:55:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun A15 motor and 5 speed from a 210 Someone else just got it, just before your message came in. If it somehow doesn't work out I will send another message. Rick On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM, George MARINOS wrote: > How much and where are you located? > George ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From nases at verizon.net Wed Aug 15 11:28:17 2012 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:28:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air filters Message-ID: My K & N air filters are hitting the Bugeye bonnet so I'm looking for a alternate style. Most of what will fit are foam and I read that foam isn't great for the best filtering. With the car only used a few thousand miles per year is the foam a problem? Any suggestions, what are listers using? I'm running a 1275 with HS2 carbs. I see some flatter pancake styles but will they restrict flow too much on a 1275? I have even seen stock 948 filters with the hole opened up for HS2 carbs. Phil Nase Applebachsville, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ p:p8p,p' From peter at nosimport.com Wed Aug 15 11:35:27 2012 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:35:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air filters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120815173530.943259A41D2@mx2.netinteraction.com> Phil, The filters for a 65-67 Spitfire work great. Peter C == At 12:28 PM 8/15/2012, Philip Nase wrote: >My K & N air filters are hitting the Bugeye bonnet so I'm looking for a >alternate style. Most of what will fit are foam and I read that foam isn't >great for the best filtering. With the car only used a few thousand miles per >year is the foam a problem? Any suggestions, what are listers using? I'm >running a 1275 with HS2 carbs. > >I see some flatter pancake styles but will they restrict flow too much on a >1275? I have even seen stock 948 filters with the hole opened up for HS2 >carbs. > >Phil Nase >Applebachsville, PA >http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ >p:p8p,p' >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5202 - Release Date: 08/15/12 From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Aug 15 12:39:56 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:39:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air filters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <67710B8A-51B0-404F-8692-847DA551DDF3@chartermi.net> This one should fit..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/300759400321?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m 1423.l2649#ht_500wt_922p Sent from my keyboard On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Philip Nase wrote: > My K & N air filters are hitting the Bugeye bonnet so I'm looking for a > alternate style. Most of what will fit are foam and I read that foam isn't > great for the best filtering. With the car only used a few thousand miles per > year is the foam a problem? Any suggestions, what are listers using? I'm > running a 1275 with HS2 carbs. > > I see some flatter pancake styles but will they restrict flow too much on a > 1275? I have even seen stock 948 filters with the hole opened up for HS2 > carbs. > > Phil Nase > Applebachsville, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > p:p8p,p' From jjkan5 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 15 13:46:10 2012 From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Air filters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1345059970.89164.YahooMailNeo@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Trevor Jessie was offering a very nice custom setup. I saw this setup on Jim Gruber's car. Don't know if he is still making these.... http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1878573 John Kuzman ________________________________ From: Philip Nase To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Air filters My K & N air filters are hitting the Bugeye bonnet so I'm looking for a alternate style. Most of what will fit are foam and I read that foam isn't great for the best filtering. With the car only used a few thousand miles per year is the foam a problem? Any suggestions, what are listers using? I'm running a 1275 with HS2 carbs. I see some flatter pancake styles but will they restrict flow too much on a 1275? I have even seen stock 948 filters with the hole opened up for HS2 carbs. Phil Nase Applebachsville, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ p:p8p,p' ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jjkan5 at yahoo.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 13:47:56 2012 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:47:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Tank Coating(s) Message-ID: I'm getting to replace the original, rusty tank in my TR8 with one I purchased a number of years back. Before I do, I'd like to "coat" the inside to prevent rusting. What have you used to coat/seal your fuel tank? AND...after having used said product, is there a different one you would use were you to do it again? Thank you, Herb Grants Pass, Oregon -- The only people worth getting even with are those who have helped you. *- Anonymous* Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had 100 years ago. From jdinnis at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 13:54:59 2012 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:54:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Tank Coating(s) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I recently sealed a motorcycle tank with Kreem (the DIY version). It worked OK, but it was a pain in the a$$ to use. I tried very hard to keep the tank rotating as directed, but the coating still ended up not being even. It as some runs and splotches and it looks terrible. But then again who is ever going to see the inside of the tank anyway. It has only been a few months so I can't say how well it will hold up long term, but the tank on my Spitfire was sealed with the professional grade version of Kreem by a radiator shop about 10 years ago and it has not shown any sign of degradation at all. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:47 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > I'm getting to replace the original, rusty tank in my TR8 with one I > purchased a number of years back. Before I do, I'd like to "coat" the > inside to prevent rusting. > > What have you used to coat/seal your fuel tank? AND...after having used > said product, is there a different one you would use were you to do it > again? > > Thank you, > > Herb > Grants Pass, Oregon > > -- > The only people worth getting even with are those who have helped you. *- > Anonymous* > > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. 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Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in > America today than we had 100 years ago. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 14:12:31 2012 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:12:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Tank Coating(s) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wouldn't hesitate to use any of the products offered by the Eastwood Co. www.eastwood.com I haven't had the opportunity to do this job yet, but check out their pproducts. Just put 'fuel tank' in the search box. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > I'm getting to replace the original, rusty tank in my TR8 with one I > purchased a number of years back. Before I do, I'd like to "coat" the > inside to prevent rusting. > > What have you used to coat/seal your fuel tank? AND...after having used > said product, is there a different one you would use were you to do it > again? > > Thank you, > > Herb > Grants Pass, Oregon From miniac7 at aol.com Wed Aug 15 14:22:24 2012 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Air filters In-Reply-To: <67710B8A-51B0-404F-8692-847DA551DDF3@chartermi.net> References: <67710B8A-51B0-404F-8692-847DA551DDF3@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <8CF493AD0DEE3CB-D7C-93312@webmail-m101.sysops.aol.com> That's the one that I use, and it works a treat. Howard Collins -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk To: spridgets Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 2:46 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air filters This one should fit..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/300759400321?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m 423.l2649#ht_500wt_922p ent from my keyboard On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Philip Nase wrote: > My K & N air filters are hitting the Bugeye bonnet so I'm looking for a alternate style. Most of what will fit are foam and I read that foam isn't great for the best filtering. With the car only used a few thousand miles er year is the foam a problem? Any suggestions, what are listers using? I'm running a 1275 with HS2 carbs. I see some flatter pancake styles but will they restrict flow too much on a 1275? I have even seen stock 948 filters with the hole opened up for HS2 carbs. Phil Nase Applebachsville, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ p:p8p,p' ----------------------- spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html uggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 18:19:45 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:19:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite didn't sell Message-ID: So I have relisted it. It got bid up to $2999 so I have started it off at $2995 without reserve. Now we will see if anyone was serious. Rick (maxed out my HD card, starting on Lowes now) Bastedo From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Aug 16 05:54:20 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:54:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All British Field Meet at PIR at the end of this month ...bill Message-ID: Portland Oregon at West Delta Park. Races also. http://www.abfm-pdx.com/2012/venue_information?PHPSESSID=b6fd6314714f632d21c 541bc4bae2485 From rbastedo at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 08:38:01 2012 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:38:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Message-ID: If one of you fine people have the Ebay handle of either cocinas13 or patrick_elliott please let me know. Off list email of course. Rick (MK2 Sprite for sale) Bastedo From shop at justbrits.com Thu Aug 16 09:00:53 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:00:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <502D0B25.1040809@justbrits.com> Rick, let me know if you got my PM ! Ed From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 09:02:40 2012 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:02:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite didn't sell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, You could have offered it to the highest bidder as a second chance on eBay. Make sure you go to the Lowes web site and fill out the form as though you just moved. There is a link at the top of that page. They will send you a coupon for 10% off an entire purchase up to $5K. You can save 500 bucks that way. The post office used to have those Lowes coupons in their hand-out moving package, but I haven't seen them for a while now. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > So I have relisted it. > It got bid up to $2999 so I have started it off at $2995 without reserve. > Now we will see if anyone was serious. > > Rick (maxed out my HD card, starting on Lowes now) Bastedo From frogeye at cox.net Thu Aug 16 11:32:46 2012 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:32:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] help with early hardtop question Message-ID: I have located a early MK1 or MK2 hardtop and have had photos sent to me It has the Triplex rear glass in it with information on a logo AS2 Triplex three XXX in a triangle below the word Triplex and the word ..toughened ..below the 3 Xbs with the twin ice cream cones below that I have photos of the top and the markings on the glass and am trying to determine if it is a Mk1 or MK2 Sprite top Any help appreciated Thanks in advance Alan From mark at bradakis.com Thu Aug 16 13:52:36 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:52:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] BST, no LBC Message-ID: <502D4F84.5080203@bradakis.com> Big Swedish Trucks: http://mashable.com/2012/08/16/volvo-tightrope-truck-ad/ mjb. From grday at btinternet.com Fri Aug 17 02:06:19 2012 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:06:19 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] help with early hardtop question References: Message-ID: Alan, If you can send me a photo of the markings on the glass and I can see the information (in little dots around the text) I can tell you when the glass was made. This will give you the earliest date of manufacture. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "alan" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] help with early hardtop question >I have located a early MK1 or MK2 hardtop and have had photos sent to me > > It has the Triplex rear glass in it with information on a logo > > AS2 > Triplex > three XXX in a triangle below the word Triplex > and the word ..toughened ..below the 3 Xbs > with the twin ice cream cones below that > > > I have photos of the top and the markings on the glass and am trying to > determine if it is a Mk1 or MK2 Sprite top > > > Any help appreciated > > Thanks in advance > > Alan > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Aug 17 02:57:35 2012 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:57:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Forwarded for Mike MacLean: 3 am Message-ID: It's hot here in Southern California, real hot. It is 5:30 PM right now and it is 115 degrees in my garage. With that in mind, I am on vacation and too poor to go anywhere due to funding my two kids college education, so I decided to make this 3 weeks a stay at home and do all the projects that have piled up type of vacation. High on my list is my Bugeye. I had to wait until this morning at 1 AM to work on the car. The temp was down to a manageable 85 degrees at the time in the garage. I needed to replace the Facet fuel pump and fix a nagging fuel leak at the fuel line into the tank. I also wanted to install the new sending unit. Well, I got all of that accomplished by 3 AM (it was down to 80 degrees by then). I finally put the car down off the jack and poured fuel back into the tank. Holy Crap, what a leak. Some dumba** forgot to screw the fuel fitting back into the tank. Duh! After jacking the car back up and putting the jack stands back the fitting was in place and the "leak" stopped. It was time for the moment of truth! I turned the key and after ten years of operating the car using a dip stick for a fuel gauge, I finally had a gas gauge! It read half full, so I wanted to be sure it was working and not just stuck at half. I took it to the gas station at 3 AM and filled it up. It read close to full but just under, but I can live with that. What was really amazing was after installing the new Facet pump, a new fuel filter and fixing the leak at the tank fitting, the car started right up after sitting for over a week in the garage. It had never done that before, or at least it's been so long I don't remember it starting so easy. I have a few more jobs to do on the Bugeye, but it waill have to wait until 1 AM. There are some jobs around the house that I can do in air conditioned comfort at least. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer and a brand new 2012 Honda Accord 5 speed coupe! -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From haynes386 at netzero.net Fri Aug 17 07:48:45 2012 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:48:45 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] help with early hardtop question Message-ID: <20120817.074845.13796.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Alan, I'll check my MKI hardtop tonight, The MKII has a narrower rear clip spacing which is a little bit farther from the windscreen. My MKI hardtop fits on the MKII but sits ON the rear clips, where on the MKI it sits behind the rear clips. I believe that they look the same (BMC tops, that is). My MKI top has no attachments for the rear clips either, just the J bolt hold downs. I know this doesn't help a lot as you don't have the hardtop in hand. My .02! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 From: "alan" To: Subject: [Spridgets] help with early hardtop question I have located a early MK1 or MK2 hardtop and have had photos sent to me It has the Triplex rear glass in it with information on a logo AS2 Triplex three XXX in a triangle below the word Triplex and the word ..toughened ..below the 3 Xbs with the twin ice cream cones below that I have photos of the top and the markings on the glass and am trying to determine if it is a Mk1 or MK2 Sprite top Any help appreciated Thanks in advance Alan ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Aug 17 12:26:16 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:26:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] help with early hardtop question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5976B548-7344-4533-A02B-C237A912F1BF@gerardsgarage.com> Alan, I'm a little confused. I always thought that a factory MKI top was the rounded version you typically see on Bugeyes, and a MKII top was the squared off design. I believe the rounded top will fit on both since the windscreen and doors are configured the same. I don't know that the rear seal fits as flush as the contour of the rear deck is different on a MKII. Smoothline made/makes a rounded version for a MKII that looks very similar though... might the one you have be a Smoothline? Smootline: http://www.smoothline.com/austin_healey_sprite.php http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/SPRITE63/MKII_Hardtop?full=1 http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/file.php?3,file=136010,filename=DSCF3133.j pg http://www.team.net/archive/spridgets/2006-08/msg00748.html On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:32:46 -0400 > From: "alan" > To: > Subject: [Spridgets] help with early hardtop question > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have located a early MK1 or MK2 hardtop and have had photos sent > to me > > It has the Triplex rear glass in it with information on a logo > > AS2 > Triplex > three XXX in a triangle below the word Triplex > and the word ..toughened ..below the 3 Xbs > with the twin ice cream cones below that > > > I have photos of the top and the markings on the glass and am trying > to > determine if it is a Mk1 or MK2 Sprite top > > > Any help appreciated > > Thanks in advance > > Alan From haynes386 at netzero.net Fri Aug 17 12:37:57 2012 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:37:57 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump Message-ID: <20120817.123757.17778.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> I've been mulling this question over in my mind, and thought I'd try to get some different views on it. I have the power for my facet fuel pumps (both MKI and MKII) run through the ignition switch (the MKII has a separate dash switch as well), and both cars are running the original genny. IF I were to rewire the fuel pump through a relay so that the pump gets straight voltage form the battery, would this make a difference in how the pump performs when the cars are at low RPMs. They both seem to have a propensity to want to stall after a while at low R's, and the discussion about alternators and the lack of genny output at low R's got me thinking about this. It might be the cause of some of my 'running out of gas' with 3 gals left in the tank. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Aug 17 13:01:33 2012 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:01:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump In-Reply-To: <20120817.123757.17778.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Have you measured voltage at the pump terminal at idle and compared that to battery voltage at idle? Have you tried adding an additional wire in parallel with the original wire to lower the resistance? Try hooking a jumper cable from the battery post to the pump while with the engine idling to see if the pump speeds up. BZ From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Aug 17 14:23:15 2012 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:23:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump In-Reply-To: <20120817.123757.17778.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20120817.123757.17778.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <145995061.20120817132315@pacifier.com> Hello Mark, I don't know. given that statement, I noticed that the idle speed of the engine changed as both the ambient temperature and the engine temperature went up, the idle speed went down. That is, in either hot weather, or hot engine, and especially hot engine in hot weather, I would have to goose the throttle to keep it from dieing. Since the first 1/4 or so of the Choke is supposed to be only fuel opening, not butterfly closing, I would just pull it out a touch at stop lights and such during the summer. (I too had a facet fuel pump wired through the ignition switch). ... I thought it was just the SU carbs getting hot and that a better heat shield or insulating the exhaust header would fix the problem.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Cheer up, the worst is yet to come. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Aug 18 02:49:15 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 04:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump Message-ID: <4c7ea.6333b978.3d60b10b@aol.com> It might make a difference but if the pump is that weak it's long been time for a new pump! In a message dated 17/08/2012 19:40:16 GMT Daylight Time, haynes386 at netzero.net writes: I've been mulling this question over in my mind, and thought I'd try to get some different views on it. I have the power for my facet fuel pumps (both MKI and MKII) run through the ignition switch (the MKII has a separate dash switch as well), and both cars are running the original genny. IF I were to rewire the fuel pump through a relay so that the pump gets straight voltage form the battery, would this make a difference in how the pump performs when the cars are at low RPMs. They both seem to have a propensity to want to stall after a while at low R's, and the discussion about alternators and the lack of genny output at low R's got me thinking about this. It might be the cause of some of my 'running out of gas' with 3 gals left in the tank. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Aug 18 19:45:20 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 21:45:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump In-Reply-To: <20120817.123757.17778.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20120817.123757.17778.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: "Lack of genny output at low R's" should not have anything to do with it. If you have good charge on the battery then it should be able to run the fuel pump. If it can't then it probably means the generator/regulator is not setup correctly (in which case you would have other problems, like not being able to crank the starter) or there is some other issue, like a poor connection to the pump. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:38 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump I've been mulling this question over in my mind, and thought I'd try to get some different views on it. I have the power for my facet fuel pumps (both MKI and MKII) run through the ignition switch (the MKII has a separate dash switch as well), and both cars are running the original genny. IF I were to rewire the fuel pump through a relay so that the pump gets straight voltage form the battery, would this make a difference in how the pump performs when the cars are at low RPMs. They both seem to have a propensity to want to stall after a while at low R's, and the discussion about alternators and the lack of genny output at low R's got me thinking about this. It might be the cause of some of my 'running out of gas' with 3 gals left in the tank. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Sun Aug 19 10:09:54 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:09:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ref: Robert B. Houston In-Reply-To: References: <20120817.123757.17778.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <50310FD2.9070908@justbrits.com> Anybody got RBH's eMail Addy, plz ? ? ? Tnx ! Ed From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sun Aug 19 23:59:21 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:59:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] : Ref: Robert B. Houston In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ed, The last good address I have for him is: rbhouston at aol.com last heard from him about a year and a half ago. Gerard On Aug 19, 2012, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:09:54 -0500 > From: "shop at justbrits.com" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Ref: Robert B. Houston > Message-ID: <50310FD2.9070908 at justbrits.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Anybody got RBH's eMail Addy, plz ? ? ? > > Tnx ! > > Ed From shop at justbrits.com Mon Aug 20 06:58:03 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:58:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] : Ref: Robert B. Houston In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5032345B.6080007@justbrits.com> << On 8/20/2012 12:59 AM, Gerard wrote: The last good address I have for him is:>> Thanks, Gerard ! ! ! I actually "do" 'recall' that addy as I've been after him to get AWAY from that super POS - aol for YEARS ! ! ! Ed Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Aug 20 10:49:12 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] : Ref: Robert B. Houston Message-ID: <10363.1e714cd5.3d63c488@aol.com> I think he is on facebook, might even be one of my friends! In a message dated 20/08/2012 06:59:31 GMT Daylight Time, pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com writes: Ed, The last good address I have for him is: rbhouston at aol.com last heard from him about a year and a half ago. Gerard From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Mon Aug 20 11:25:35 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:25:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] : Ref: Robert B. Houston In-Reply-To: <10363.1e714cd5.3d63c488@aol.com> References: <10363.1e714cd5.3d63c488@aol.com> Message-ID: ...and Linkedin. On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:49 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > I think he is on facebook, might even be one of my friends! > > > In a message dated 20/08/2012 06:59:31 GMT Daylight Time, pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com > writes: > Ed, > > The last good address I have for him is: > > rbhouston at aol.com > > last heard from him about a year and a half ago. > > Gerard From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Aug 20 12:35:08 2012 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:35:08 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump Message-ID: <20120820.123508.12135.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Thanks Dean, That was the crux of my question, whether the systems running through the ignition switch were running full battery voltage or just the genny output voltage (i.e. like how your lights dim at a stoplight due to low genny output). Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Mark Haynes'" , Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 21:45:20 -0400 "Lack of genny output at low R's" should not have anything to do with it. If you have good charge on the battery then it should be able to run the fuel pump. If it can't then it probably means the generator/regulator is not setup correctly (in which case you would have other problems, like not being able to crank the starter) or there is some other issue, like a poor connection to the pump. ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/503283b65d6dd3b66e33st03duc From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Aug 18 02:50:53 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 04:50:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump Message-ID: <4c7f7.35196f7e.3d60b16c@aol.com> The real solution to manage the heat is put a thermal barrier coating on the inlet manifold. After that an appropriate period correct 'opening' to release hot air from the engine bay. In a message dated 17/08/2012 21:23:33 GMT Daylight Time, pythias at pacifier.com writes: I thought it was just the SU carbs getting hot and that a better heat shield or insulating the exhaust header would fix the problem.... From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Aug 20 19:47:10 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:47:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump In-Reply-To: <4c7f7.35196f7e.3d60b16c@aol.com> References: <4c7f7.35196f7e.3d60b16c@aol.com> Message-ID: What does the "period correct 'opening' " look like? Louvers in the bonnet? I agee that under bonnet temps on the bugeye do get warm. I measured 120F at the carb inlet when it was 90F ambient. But I don't think this is the issue with the idle speed changes that Bill was talking about. I'm running the stock heat shield with a header and I haven't seen the problem he mentions. I am however interested in lowering the under bonnet temps from a performance perspective. I just bought some header wrap and I'm going to see how much that helps. I was at a local cruise night talking to a guy who put it on his Chevy Nova and he indicated that it made a big difference in under hood temperature. Daniel, by "thermal barrier on the intake manifold" do mean a spacer between the manifold and the head? -----Original Message----- From: Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com The real solution to manage the heat is put a thermal barrier coating on the inlet manifold. After that an appropriate period correct 'opening' to release hot air from the engine bay. In a message dated 17/08/2012 21:23:33 GMT Daylight Time, pythias at pacifier.com writes: I thought it was just the SU carbs getting hot and that a better heat shield or insulating the exhaust header would fix the problem.... From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Aug 21 12:08:05 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump Message-ID: <4c422.723219c6.3d652884@aol.com> Bonnet Louvres and/or vents in the wings/fenders in the style of the works Big Healeys. The vents will reduce drag and increase top speed. Sitting in traffic is usually the biggest problem as there is little movement of air through the engine bay. Header wrap is good for damaging the header. The 'themal barrier' on the inlet manifold is a coating like paint but better. I use camcoat and I think in the USA you'd use some sort of jet hot coating? The header will be more sensitive to what coating you use (some will burn off) but again some sort of jet hot coating will do the job and several listers have used it. The best and more expensive header coating will be plasma sprayed. I thought you had a book with all this stuff in - the edition with mostly colour photos of this stuff??? Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/08/2012 02:47:11 GMT Daylight Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: What does the "period correct 'opening' " look like? Louvers in the bonnet? I agee that under bonnet temps on the bugeye do get warm. I measured 120F at the carb inlet when it was 90F ambient. But I don't think this is the issue with the idle speed changes that Bill was talking about. I'm running the stock heat shield with a header and I haven't seen the problem he mentions. I am however interested in lowering the under bonnet temps from a performance perspective. I just bought some header wrap and I'm going to see how much that helps. I was at a local cruise night talking to a guy who put it on his Chevy Nova and he indicated that it made a big difference in under hood temperature. Daniel, by "thermal barrier on the intake manifold" do mean a spacer between the manifold and the head? From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 18:31:10 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:31:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Low brake/clutch fluid Message-ID: List, I am finally back from my Canada/Michigan trip and got ready to install the clutch slave cylinder and found the master very low on fluid, thought I checked it and it was fine several months ago. So I got to thinking my problem was low fluid. Do I understand correctly the fluid can dry out over time because I see no leaks? Stops and goes correctly but I will still bleed the line to be sure no air trapped in the line. BTW brought home another black kitten from my sister-in-laws feral bunch and my partner oddly named her Spridget. So now I have a Sprite and a Spridget black cat ....wink. Partner has a black cat too named Turbo. They are all playing nicely here in NJ. Hope everyone is well, Lin From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Aug 21 19:24:15 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:24:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: It (http://tinyurl.com/4ytsyg7) came today. I don't know how they can make this for $12. I've got sitting here on the bench with just a tiny PC speaker hooked up. It is stereo plus a mono subwoofer connection in the back. It does everything as advertised. Reception is excellent. I'm picking up Allentown 95.1 from just north of Philly. The drivers are TDA2003 devices. Two of them at 10 watts each. I opened the unit up and the single chip that does everything is made by LC. The part number is AB1213D2M820 I could not find a data sheet on this part. If someone locate I would appreciate. The downsides: Unit comes with zero instructions. This is for the hobbyist. There are no station memories, but you can enter '933' on the remote and it will tune to 93.3 mhz. If you switch between MP3 and FM radio it will remember the station you were last on (and where it was in the mp3). You can't adjust the volume from the remote. At least I have not figured out how. But you can toggle through different EQ settings, and one of these is "softer". The ergonomics of the connections and the front panel are a little goofy. But, I'm stashing this under the dash so it really does not matter. You get a long cord for the IR remote sensor. The chassis is open and it might be a good idea to weather seal it before mounting in the car. All in all it is a good solution for a concealed LBC radio. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Aug 21 19:59:26 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump In-Reply-To: <4c422.723219c6.3d652884@aol.com> References: <4c422.723219c6.3d652884@aol.com> Message-ID: Sorry, I did not know that was in the book. I always have the impression that the manifold picks up a lot of heat from the head, even through the manifold bolts. I was thinking a spacer made from PEEK or other high temp plastic would help the situation. So I guess with the coating you are trying to block the radiant heat from the exhaust manifold. I'm not fully buying into the header wrap destroys the headers theory. I think it might be the case that the wrap can hold moisture if it gets wet and that can contribute to corrosion, but I hardly ever drive the car in the rain. I have a coating on the header so I think I'll be OK. It's only a simple 3 into 1 header. If it rots out it will give me an excuse to buy a proper long center branch type. Hey, by the way, I actually "out rode" Lance Armstrong this past weekend. I rode 75 miles in the Livestrong Philly charity event. Lance claimed he was a little hung over from a wedding the night before. So he only did the 45 mile course. It was the toughest bike ride I have ever done. I have ridden 100 miles a few times. But this ride had a lot of elevation. Lots of "over 10% grade" hills. I was getting some serious leg cramps by the last 20 miles or so. I am glad I did not attempt the full 100 mile course. It was a great time though. Our team raised about $9000. I think the whole event raised around 1.2 million dollars. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 20:18:46 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:18:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: Yes, it is like Harborrible Freight selling an Aluminum jack for less than you can buy the Aluminum to make it. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > It (http://tinyurl.com/4ytsyg7) came today. > > I don't know how they can make this for $12. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 20:19:41 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:19:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: BTW, don't look at the water guns for sale on dx unless you want a "Hunh?" moment. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Aug 21 20:26:52 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:26:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: Whadaya buying water guns from DX for? I'm cracking up here.. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:20 PM To: Dean Hedin Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) BTW, don't look at the water guns for sale on dx unless you want a "Hunh?" moment. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 20:30:05 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:30:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: I was just browsing. I ordered a VW specific cable and when I order from places like that I like to stock up on cheap CAT 5 cables, adapters, connectors, containers, whatever they have that is useful. This just made me say "Hunh?" NSFW spray-your-friend-giant-water-gun-water-spraying-toy I didn't buy any. I just posted a link for my friends to laugh at. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Whadaya buying water guns from DX for? I'm cracking up here.. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Aug 21 21:00:20 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:00:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: <4c422.723219c6.3d652884@aol.com> Message-ID: <50344B44.6050004@justbrits.com> << On 8/21/2012 8:59 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: but I hardly ever drive the car in the rain. ........ >> Doesn't have anything to do with the "problem", Dean. << I'm not fully buying into the header wrap destroys the headers theory. I think it might be the case that the wrap can hold moisture if it gets wet and that can contribute to corrosion,>> Comes from inside out ! ! You start HER to "warm HER up" in winter or just run the the drug/grocery store. The 'heat' cycle you create in doing this MAKES water which nicely STAYS in the header "wrap" which of course in next to the STEEL === rust (and you don't even see it coming ) ! ! Forget the "wrap" and get Jet Hot coated inside AND out ! ! ! Wait, didn't 1312 say something like that ? ? ? Anon ! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Aug 21 21:04:20 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:04:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: I did buy other stuff too. They had these 150W DC to DC converters for automotive use. http://tinyurl.com/8rxz42e What else... oh yeah, I bought one of those Arduino microcontroller boards. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it but I know it's real easy to use. It sort of a good solution looking for a problem. I also bought some cherry style micro switches and some bicycle handlebar lights. And then I found the "piece d' elegance". John Lennon, round style sunglasses. You can't find them anywhere else in the universe, at least not for $5. Yeah, I've checked all the dollar stores in the area and they don't have them. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:30 PM To: Dean Hedin Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) I was just browsing. I ordered a VW specific cable and when I order from places like that I like to stock up on cheap CAT 5 cables, adapters, connectors, containers, whatever they have that is useful. This just made me say "Hunh?" NSFW spray-your-friend-giant-water-gun-water-spraying-toy I didn't buy any. I just posted a link for my friends to laugh at. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Whadaya buying water guns from DX for? I'm cracking up here.. From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 21:21:09 2012 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:21:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Low brake/clutch fluid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lin, If the level was "fine several months ago" it should still be fine. Look for leaks, puddles, etc. Are there any areas where the paint is blistering? Congrats on your new "Spridget." Hal On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I am finally back from my Canada/Michigan trip and got ready to > install the clutch slave cylinder and found the master very low on > fluid, thought I checked it and it was fine several months ago. So I > got to thinking my problem was low fluid. Do I understand correctly > the fluid can dry out over time because I see no leaks? Stops and goes > correctly but I will still bleed the line to be sure no air trapped in > the line. > > BTW brought home another black kitten from my sister-in-laws feral > bunch and my partner oddly named her Spridget. So now I have a Sprite > and a Spridget black cat ....wink. Partner has a black cat too named > Turbo. They are all playing nicely here in NJ. > Hope everyone is well, > Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Aug 21 21:35:03 2012 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:35:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Power to fuel pump In-Reply-To: <50344B44.6050004@justbrits.com> References: <4c422.723219c6.3d652884@aol.com> <50344B44.6050004@justbrits.com> Message-ID: While it MAY be that header wrap can exacerbate manifold corrosion, the "'heat cycle'" definitely does not make water. Water is made by the chemical combination of hydrogen and oxygen. I would postulate that the accelerated corrosion is, in part, caused by water trapped in the heat wrap that is somehow prevented from evaporation-- perhaps by a sealant applied over the wrap. However, if your gaskets are good there will be no way for the exhaust gasses-- which can be corrosive, including among other things carbolic and/or carbonic acid-- to get into the wrap. Holding the heat in the manifold longer could increase the activity of the corrosive components of the exhaust gasses and this would, as ED suggests cause corrosion from inside out. Hal On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:00 PM, shop at justbrits.com wrote: > << On 8/21/2012 8:59 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > but I hardly ever drive the car in the rain. ........ >> > > Doesn't have anything to do with the "problem", Dean. > > << I'm not fully buying into the header wrap destroys the headers theory. > I think it might be the case that the wrap can hold moisture if it gets > wet and that can contribute to corrosion,>> > > Comes from inside out ! ! You start HER to "warm HER up" in winter or > just run the the drug/grocery store. The 'heat' cycle you create in > doing this MAKES water which nicely STAYS in the header "wrap" which of > course in next to the STEEL === rust (and you don't even see it coming > ) ! ! > > Forget the "wrap" and get Jet Hot coated inside AND out ! ! ! > > Wait, didn't 1312 say something like that ? ? ? > > Anon ! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From grday at btinternet.com Wed Aug 22 01:36:39 2012 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:36:39 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Low brake/clutch fluid References: Message-ID: <01E971FFE92A40C19074FC7CD75B5020@user8634b3d69b> Hi Linda, I trust the trip went well. Brake fluid will not evaporate to any major extent and will normally last several years without problem. (Have you ever known an old half full can to dry out?) There will be either: (a) slow leak somewhere or, (b) it has 'bled' itself a little more and air you didn't realise was there has surfaced or, (c) the slave cylinder has slowly pushed out if there was nothing to hold it back. If you are only just installing a clutch slave cylinder, what was retaining the fluid in the system whilst you were away? If it was an old slave cylinder, was that leaking? If it is a slow leak all you may see is a darker coloured area on the surface dirt spread out in a in more of a circular area than a line going down. You may not realise it has leaked if it is clean and dry or, if it is, there may be just a patch of dust that has stuck to the fluid over time and your polishing cloth sticks a just little as you wipe it over. Check along the master cylinder push rod and covers to the clutch pedal for signs of fluid along there. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Low brake/clutch fluid > List, > I am finally back from my Canada/Michigan trip and got ready to > install the clutch slave cylinder and found the master very low on > fluid, thought I checked it and it was fine several months ago. So I > got to thinking my problem was low fluid. Do I understand correctly > the fluid can dry out over time because I see no leaks? Stops and goes > correctly but I will still bleed the line to be sure no air trapped in > the line. > > BTW brought home another black kitten from my sister-in-laws feral > bunch and my partner oddly named her Spridget. So now I have a Sprite > and a Spridget black cat ....wink. Partner has a black cat too named > Turbo. They are all playing nicely here in NJ. > Hope everyone is well, > Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Aug 22 05:57:57 2012 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:57:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: References: <9C022AA7AFE640EA8F4CEC8D281E7782@blackbox2> Message-ID: <349CA89B7580402081B7B2F46C9850C3@Home> >> I don't know how they can make this for $12. It could be that these are from batches that failed testing. As I understand, the normal method is to test x of y units in a batch, and reject the whole batch if there are "too many" failures. That batch then gets sold to someone else, who sells them cheaper to us. They may sell them without further testing, assuming complaints and returns, or test every one and sell them at a higher, but significantly lower price than original. You are unlikely to complain about a $12 item when you know a good one costs $30-$40. Factories also dump old models when they know a new model is coming out. These can be high quality, just outdated. Michael Rowe From shop at justbrits.com Wed Aug 22 07:41:34 2012 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:41:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [.M.G-.M.GB] OT - thetimes.co.uk In-Reply-To: <00ab01cd8068$441feef0$cc5fccd0$@Bonackers.com> References: <00ab01cd8068$441feef0$cc5fccd0$@Bonackers.com> Message-ID: <5034E18E.5060105@justbrits.com> Would/could anybody help me for a different list's Lister ?? There is an article by Caitlin Moran on www.thetimes.co.uk website that I would like to get a copy of, does one of the UK members of this list have a subscription and would they be willing to get one for me? Happy to pay postage ! ! ! Ed Please visit MY site: www.justbrits.com PS: Yep, I "will" find out 'name' of column ! From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Aug 22 09:20:22 2012 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:20:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Woodward Dream Cruise - LBC's Message-ID: Here's some pics from the 2012 Woodward Dream Cruise of British cars at the cruise. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bossmustang/7815791158/ 59 Sprite http://www.flickr.com/photos/bossmustang/7815699420/ Sunbeam http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7812347714/ HP Sprite Racer http://www.flickr.com/photos/autoweekusa/7810740808/ HP Racer again http://www.flickr.com/photos/autoweekusa/7812342772/ 3 wheel Morgan http://www.flickr.com/photos/autoweekusa/7812314016/ Bugeye http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7812349364/ Yellow Bugeye w/windup key http://www.flickr.com/photos/autoweekusa/7812263588/ Red Sprite MKII? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bossmustang/7805716024/ Yellow Spridget http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7805344174/ Triumph http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7805341292/ Classic Mini http://www.flickr.com/photos/autoweekusa/7804608686/ Moke http://www.flickr.com/photos/bossmustang/7801317522/ Red Bugeye http://www.flickr.com/photos/autoweekusa/7799344022/ Red Bugeye http://www.flickr.com/photos/autoweekusa/7799268428/ Yellow Bugeye w/windup key http://www.flickr.com/photos/cartraceman/7792848672/ Heavy Healey http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7792253352/ Heavy Healey again http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7792249680/ Lotus http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7792244034/ MGB I laughed at a pic of a Galaxie 500 with rear window vinyl lettering that says; "I built it, not Obama!" However, his license plate "Might" have been made by an ex politician Kwame Kilpatrick, the ex mayor of Detroit. LOL There's lots more good pics on Flickr of the cruise. Just search for Woodward Cruise and sort by most recent - over 5000 pics. Tim Collins From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Aug 22 10:07:09 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Woodward Dream Cruise - LBC's In-Reply-To: <20120822152404.2DCA42D03F6@autox.team.net> References: <20120822152404.2DCA42D03F6@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1345651629.15515.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> That is probably not a Healey but one of those handcrafted Sebring kit cars. http://www.bobsclassics.com/65ag.htm jay ________________________________ From: Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/cartraceman/7792848672/ Heavy Healey http://www.flickr.com/photos/41803247 at N00/7792253352/ Heavy Healey again From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 11:32:01 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:32:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Low brake/clutch fluid In-Reply-To: <01E971FFE92A40C19074FC7CD75B5020@user8634b3d69b> References: <01E971FFE92A40C19074FC7CD75B5020@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Thanks Guys, The level was to the rod, which I believe is the bold rod as I could see the top of that rod although I thought it was above that when I oened it therefore think now it may have just covered that rod and I thought it was full. Should the level be at the bottom of the filler neck? Thanks again, Lin & the Sprite Cats ....wink On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:36 AM, GUY DAY wrote: > Hi Linda, > > I trust the trip went well. > Brake fluid will not evaporate to any major extent and will normally last > several years without problem. (Have you ever known an old half full can to > dry out?) > There will be either: > (a) slow leak somewhere or, > (b) it has 'bled' itself a little more and air you didn't realise was there > has surfaced or, > (c) the slave cylinder has slowly pushed out if there was nothing to hold it > back. > If you are only just installing a clutch slave cylinder, what was retaining > the fluid in the system whilst you were away? If it was an old slave > cylinder, was that leaking? > If it is a slow leak all you may see is a darker coloured area on the > surface dirt spread out in a in more of a circular area than a line going > down. You may not realise it has leaked if it is clean and dry or, if it > is, there may be just a patch of dust that has stuck to the fluid over time > and your polishing cloth sticks a just little as you wipe it over. Check > along the master cylinder push rod and covers to the clutch pedal for signs > of fluid along there. > > Guy R Day > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Spridget list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:31 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Low brake/clutch fluid > > >> List, >> I am finally back from my Canada/Michigan trip and got ready to >> install the clutch slave cylinder and found the master very low on >> fluid, thought I checked it and it was fine several months ago. So I >> got to thinking my problem was low fluid. Do I understand correctly >> the fluid can dry out over time because I see no leaks? Stops and goes >> correctly but I will still bleed the line to be sure no air trapped in >> the line. >> >> BTW brought home another black kitten from my sister-in-laws feral >> bunch and my partner oddly named her Spridget. So now I have a Sprite >> and a Spridget black cat ....wink. Partner has a black cat too named >> Turbo. They are all playing nicely here in NJ. >> Hope everyone is well, >> Lin >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 11:35:15 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:35:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Passengers seat 62 MKII Sprite Pinky Message-ID: List, I'm finally reattaching my passengers seat and it appears it can only attach to the rack prior to bolting the rack to the floor. Is that correct? If so it doesn't seem to allow for inserting the bolts. I took it off so it must line up. This is another time I wish I had taken before shots ....wink. Tips appreciated. Lin From peter at nosimport.com Wed Aug 22 12:34:01 2012 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay question re: trademarks Message-ID: <20120822183358.F2FAEF4402A@mx2.netinteraction.com> We sell a fair bit on eBay.... and plan to sell more. For the second time, Hyundai has had a listing of ours taken down for Trademark Violation. I used Hyundai in the title, because that's what the effing manifold gasket fits! Maybe instead I should say "Manifold Gasket for piece-of-crap Korean car that rhymes with Sunday"? If so, I'm gonna need more characters. Anyone else face this? Peter C From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Aug 22 13:10:45 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC Message-ID: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> In the film 'Aliens in the attic' when the police turn up at the house where the aliens are the uncle describes the police as Po Po. Is this is a universal way of describing the police in the USA or something that was made up for the film? Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Aug 22 13:57:22 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:57:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <67ABABD8-BBAC-46A6-B375-BC261D5D8BE2@chartermi.net> Never heard of "Po Po" before. But then I don't get around much and the USA is a big place. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:10 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > In the film 'Aliens in the attic' when the police turn up at the house > where the aliens are the uncle describes the police as Po Po. Is this is a > universal way of describing the police in the USA or something that was made > up for the film? > > Thanks > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > ------------------------ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Aug 22 14:17:22 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil filters Message-ID: <606a8.1abc7d11.3d669852@aol.com> I've just been reading about problems with oil filters on hot rods. Seems that some filters break down on the inside. The brand mentioned was Coopers which it was also suggested is now made in ....... China. So, something to watch out for though I use a K&N oil filter on my Sprite. Weslake-Monza 1330 From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 14:45:36 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:45:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Passengers seat 62 MKII Sprite Pinky In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fixed it. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I'm finally reattaching my passengers seat and it appears it can only > attach to the rack prior to bolting the rack to the floor. Is that > correct? If so it doesn't seem to allow for inserting the bolts. I > took it off so it must line up. This is another time I wish I had > taken before shots ....wink. > Tips appreciated. > Lin From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Aug 22 15:22:25 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:22:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <037E4E827DC049E4817052A8EE7A27F6@spider> There is also one recent Country-Western song that uses "somebody call the Po Po." I had never heard the term before, but I'm only 70. Bill in Oregon ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:11 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In the film 'Aliens in the attic' when the police turn up at the house where the aliens are the uncle describes the police as Po Po. Is this is a universal way of describing the police in the USA or something that was made up for the film? Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 ------------------------ From jdinnis at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 15:39:26 2012 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:39:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil filters In-Reply-To: <606a8.1abc7d11.3d669852@aol.com> References: <606a8.1abc7d11.3d669852@aol.com> Message-ID: I have not used a K&N, but I have been very happy with WIX. The still have an anti-drainback valvem and hold up very well. I cut open and inspect a used filter on each of my vehicles at least once a year. The WIX are definetly better than the FRAM or Purolator filters I have taken apart. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:17 PM, wrote: > I've just been reading about problems with oil filters on hot rods. Seems > that some filters break down on the inside. The brand mentioned was > Coopers which it was also suggested is now made in ....... China. > > So, something to watch out for though I use a K&N oil filter on my Sprite. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 15:52:29 2012 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:52:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <037E4E827DC049E4817052A8EE7A27F6@spider> References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> <037E4E827DC049E4817052A8EE7A27F6@spider> Message-ID: Never heard it used in my 68 years either. I suspect it is a made up Hollywood jargon thing... Valley Talk... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:22 PM, wrote: > There is also one recent Country-Western song that uses "somebody call the > Po Po." I had never heard the term before, but I'm only 70. Bill in Oregon > ============================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:11 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC > > In the film 'Aliens in the attic' when the police turn up at the house > where the aliens are the uncle describes the police as Po Po. Is this is a > > universal way of describing the police in the USA or something that was > made > > up for the film? > > Thanks > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexis de Tocqueville - From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Aug 22 16:11:36 2012 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:11:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil filters References: <606a8.1abc7d11.3d669852@aol.com> Message-ID: <2054C5B23C024078B0C84496396DA5F8@Dell9200> One really nice thing about the K&N is the 1 inch nut welded on the bottom of the filter. It makes it a lot easier to get off in the tight space on the Spridget. It cost about twice what the WIX filter costs (that I had been using) but that amounts to about $5-6 bucks a year so no big deal. Mark Nashville Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil filters I have not used a K&N, but I have been very happy with WIX. The still have an anti-drainback valvem and hold up very well. I cut open and inspect a used filter on each of my vehicles at least once a year. The WIX are definetly better than the FRAM or Purolator filters I have taken apart. > > So, something to watch out for though I use a K&N oil filter on my > Sprite. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 16:28:50 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:28:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Link .......Sports Cars Message-ID: List, I just found this very cool link on The Art of the Performance Automobile, Utah Museum of Fine Arts. http://www.speedumfa.com/ Wish I could go. Enjoy the graphics, Lin From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 16:51:39 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:51:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay question re: trademarks In-Reply-To: <20120822183358.F2FAEF4402A@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <20120822183358.F2FAEF4402A@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: Just keep relisting it. Maybe add a little (TM) symbol after the Hyundai. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 17:02:02 2012 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:02:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> Message-ID: A black student from Dominica, who spent his formative years in New York City, calls the police "the po po" On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM, wrote: > In the film 'Aliens in the attic' when the police turn up at the house > where the aliens are the uncle describes the police as Po Po. Is this is a > universal way of describing the police in the USA or something that was > made > up for the film? > > Thanks > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 17:04:57 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> Message-ID: Po Po, Five Oh, the man, the fuzz, the law, are all slang for the police. From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Aug 22 17:15:32 2012 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:15:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil filters In-Reply-To: <2054C5B23C024078B0C84496396DA5F8@Dell9200> References: <606a8.1abc7d11.3d669852@aol.com> <2054C5B23C024078B0C84496396DA5F8@Dell9200> Message-ID: <123265616.20120822161532@pacifier.com> Hello Mark, >One really nice thing about the K&N is the 1 inch nut welded on the bottom of the filter. It makes it a lot easier to get off in the tight space on the Spridget. The nut is nice, good filtration is better... the comparisons if read say WIX is a better OIL filter-er than K&N. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Do I smoke after sex? I never looked. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Aug 22 17:30:25 2012 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:30:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC audio solution..(Warning China content) In-Reply-To: <1345671232.76251.YahooMailClassic@web184502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1345671232.76251.YahooMailClassic@web184502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61E8D77F95724C90A84C73780BF6FA99@blackbox2> Yea, it has a line in for stuff like that. I finally found the volume on the remote. I need to hook it up to a set of car speakers and see how loud it is. 10 watts per channel is nothing fantastic. From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net] Heck, that would be great with my iPhone playing Pandora or Slacker Radio. Besides, I could charge the iPhone while driving my Bugeye! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Wed, 8/22/12, Dean Hedin wrote: It (http://tinyurl.com/4ytsyg7) came today. I don't know how they can make this for $12. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Aug 22 17:57:01 2012 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:57:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay question re: trademarks In-Reply-To: References: <20120822183358.F2FAEF4402A@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: <24AFCB33-B781-4E6A-B9E7-1EA3F1BE57FF@comcast.net> Or list it as fitting a Hyundait. You should still come up in the search results just fine.. Lester On Aug 22, 2012, at 5:51 PM, derf wrote: > Just keep relisting it. Maybe add a little (TM) symbol after the Hyundai. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Aug 22 18:08:25 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:08:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <54204BC9296B4ACBBFB8E0890CEC5E48@spider> And where did the name Copper come from? Bill in Oregon =============== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:05 PM To: Brad Fornal Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC Po Po, Five Oh, the man, the fuzz, the law, are all slang for the police. ------------------------ From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Aug 22 18:58:05 2012 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:58:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> <54204BC9296B4ACBBFB8E0890CEC5E48@spider> Message-ID: <659F96826CB34989BDCD66869E6AE0AF@Dell9200> Constable on Patrol = COP I think Copper came from West Side Story :) ----- Original Message ----- And where did the name Copper come from? Bill in Oregon From mark at bradakis.com Wed Aug 22 19:19:58 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:19:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Link .......Sports Cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5035853E.8030406@bradakis.com> Yep, the exhibit is about a mile east of my house. RealSoonNow.... mjb. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Aug 22 19:21:53 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:21:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <659F96826CB34989BDCD66869E6AE0AF@Dell9200> References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com><54204BC9296B4ACBBFB8E0890CEC5E48@spider> <659F96826CB34989BDCD66869E6AE0AF@Dell9200> Message-ID: I thought it was from the first answer there, but am wrong. Bill in Oregon From: http://orvillejenkins.com/words/cops.html Question: Why are Police Called Cops? Answer: Some have proposed that the reason police officers are called "cops" is because of the New York force's copper badges. The source of this word is much earlier. Several sources say the usages originated in Northern England. The word "cop" is an old Anglo-Saxon verb for catch, grab or capture, deriving from a noun "cop" dating back at least to the 1100s. Some sources say this word related to the Dutch word kapen, with a similar meaning. The earliest written documentation of the form "cop" as a verb in English dates to 1704. A new noun form developed form this verb, giving us "copper." This form "copper" thus was the noun for "one who cops." Some sources document the use of the verb "cop" used with the meaning "arrest" in 1844, and suggests this was the source of the specific use of "cop" to refer to a law officer. The term "copper" was originally used in England as a slang word for a police officer. This term was used, however, as a term of abuse by criminals, especially petty street criminals. It was considered highly derogatory by the police themselves. It was made illegal in England to use this term for a police officer, because it was so derogatory. The term became associated with the metal copper after that law was passed, when those hoods who wanted to abuse an officer would carry a small piece of copper metal in the palm of their hand, then flash it at the policeman. This usage of "copper" got shortened to "cop." The first documented use of the term copper for a police officer is in 1846. The Oxford English Dictionary documents this usage. Most sources report that the first documented use of the short form cop as applied to a police officer is in 1859. Snopes finds that the term "copper" was used in London for police by 1846. Even when I was a child in the US in the 1950s, though not illegal, it was still considered impolite to call a policeman a cop. We were taught it was only the bad boys who feared being caught by the police that called policemen cops. (It is only in comparatively recent history that police themselves have accepted and used the word for themselves.) http://tinyurl.com/8qbqce8 ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:58 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC Constable on Patrol = COP I think Copper came from West Side Story :) ----- Original Message ----- And where did the name Copper come from? Bill in Oregon ------------------------ From jdinnis at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 19:25:16 2012 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:25:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <659F96826CB34989BDCD66869E6AE0AF@Dell9200> References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> <54204BC9296B4ACBBFB8E0890CEC5E48@spider> <659F96826CB34989BDCD66869E6AE0AF@Dell9200> Message-ID: WAY older than that. Copper may have been used to describe police becuase of the copper buttons or badges they wore on their uniforms. Cop is actually a shortened version of copper. There is a good entry on Wikipedia on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police-related_slang_terms On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mark wrote: > Constable on Patrol = COP > > I think Copper came from West Side Story :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > And where did the name Copper come from? Bill in Oregon > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Aug 22 20:36:00 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye - Top 10 Deadliest Car Message-ID: <1345689360.91650.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> "Like many sports imports, "Bugeye" Healeys were sometimes retrofitted with wood-rimmed steering wheels that got all splinter-happy in a wreck. However, one of the deadliest car designs came from BMC itself: an optional child seat. It was little more than a glorified armrest on the transmission tunnel, and no, there wasnbt a seat belt. Can you say: b infantile projectileb ? And in a car that was already tight for two adults, a squirming kidlet between them didnbt quite make for a relaxing drive." Read more: http://www.askmen.com/top_10/cars/top-10-deadliest-car-designs_5.html#ixzz24K hJUfoL " B Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Aug 22 20:51:11 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye - Top 10 Deadliest Car In-Reply-To: <1345689360.91650.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1345689360.91650.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1345690271.69993.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Ha! Slow day in the press room. Wood wheels on Sprites were rare and wood wheels without a metal rim onto which the wood was applied were even more rare. If that weren't enough, the elusive baby seat was so rare, it almost equates to the Gibson Moderne of guitar fame. Who IS this author? jay ________________________________ From: HealeyRick To: Spridgets List Sent: Wed, August 22, 2012 10:36:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye - Top 10 Deadliest Car "Like many sports imports, "Bugeye" Healeys were sometimes retrofitted with wood-rimmed steering wheels that got all splinter-happy in a wreck. However, one of the deadliest car designs came from BMC itself: an optional child seat. It was little more than a glorified armrest on the transmission tunnel, and no, there wasnbt a seat belt. Can you say: binfantile projectileb? And in a car that was already tight for two adults, a squirming kidlet between them didnbt quite make for a relaxing drive." Read more: http://www.askmen.com/top_10/cars/top-10-deadliest-car-designs_5.html#ixzz24K hJUfoL " From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Aug 22 21:19:06 2012 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:19:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye - Top 10 Deadliest Car References: <1345689360.91650.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1345690271.69993.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <125E702415D04AD8B6B39494AAF2ECFA@dell1> Jay, Click on the link HealeyRick posted and see the authors 'top ten' list. I left a comment for the author, a Mr. Bey. http://www.askmen.com/top_10/cars/top-10-deadliest-car-designs_5.html#ixzz24KhJUfoL Biff From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 22:55:55 2012 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM, wrote: > In the film 'Aliens in the attic' when the police turn up at the house > where the aliens are the uncle describes the police as Po Po. Is this is a > universal way of describing the police in the USA or something that was made > up for the film? > ------------------------------------------------------ As a retired PO PO, I understand that the term was coined in the 90s and was mostly used by African-Americans as a slang (and slur) word for the police, possibly as a payback for the N word. It came along around the same time that someone tried to legitimize "ebonics" as a true dialect. I have seen black people wearing T shirts that say, "I ain't afraid of no PO PO". Apparently they might be afraid of an English teacher though! Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 23:00:41 2012 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:00:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay question re: trademarks In-Reply-To: <20120822183358.F2FAEF4402A@mx2.netinteraction.com> References: <20120822183358.F2FAEF4402A@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Maybe instead I should say "Manifold Gasket for piece-of-crap Korean car > that rhymes with Sunday"? > > If so, I'm gonna need more characters. > ------------------------------------------------------- Ebay recently expanded the title section to hold a greater number of characters... Try it, it will probably fit now! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 00:18:24 2012 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack needed Message-ID: <6300FDB2-1B97-40A5-8B81-A988DACED778@yahoo.com> Guys and Gals, I need a late model Spridget steering rack in a hurry for the new race car. Anything out there? Located in Northern Illinois.... Thanks... Ron Soave ---------------------------- It only goes one way Pay it forward From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Aug 23 06:32:29 2012 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:32:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <569c5.6720edae.3d6688b4@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:55 AM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:10 PM, wrote: > > > In the film 'Aliens in the attic' when the police turn up at the house > > where the aliens are the uncle describes the police as Po Po. Is this > is a > > universal way of describing the police in the USA or something that was > made > > up for the film? > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > As a retired PO PO, I understand that the term was coined in the 90s and > was mostly used by African-Americans as a slang (and slur) word for the > police, possibly as a payback for the N word. It came along around the same > time that someone tried to legitimize "ebonics" as a true dialect. I have > seen black people wearing T shirts that say, "I ain't afraid of no PO PO". > > Apparently they might be afraid of an English teacher though! > > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net > The town where my wife works is Port Orange. Over there, they call them POPOs for Port Orange Police Officers. Other than that, I've not heard it. Heard From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 07:58:30 2012 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:58:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a rear torsion choke spring Message-ID: I'm cleaning out my spare parts, and I want to sell a set of carbs as "complete", but I'm missing a torsion spring for the REAR carb. This is the spring that returns the jets when the choke is pulled off (not the smaller torsion spring for the fast idle cam). Does anyone have a spare they can sell me? Thanks, Trevor BTW, I also have a set of rebuilt carbs for sale. They are VERY nice. And I'm offering them at a NICE price. see here: http://bugeyeparts.com/forum/topics/rebuilt-hs2-carbs-set-for-sale additional pics here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111142364553626311189/albums/5779525720829893553 From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Aug 23 09:36:45 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:36:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack needed In-Reply-To: <6300FDB2-1B97-40A5-8B81-A988DACED778@yahoo.com> References: <6300FDB2-1B97-40A5-8B81-A988DACED778@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1E561FAA-3F1D-453C-BA10-C1D45EA950F2@chartermi.net> I've got a '79 Midget (the Party Midget!) with a good steering rack. I'll trade ya for WT1. :-) Rick Sent from my keyboard On Aug 23, 2012, at 2:18 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > Guys and Gals, > I need a late model Spridget steering rack in a hurry for the new race car. > Anything out there? Located in Northern Illinois.... > > Thanks... > > Ron Soave > ---------------------------- > It only goes one way > Pay it forward > ------------------------ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 09:55:50 2012 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack needed In-Reply-To: <005001cd8135$bfc6a990$3f53fcb0$@com> References: <6300FDB2-1B97-40A5-8B81-A988DACED778@yahoo.com> <005001cd8135$bfc6a990$3f53fcb0$@com> Message-ID: <1345737350.13150.YahooMailNeo@web122103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thanks Neil and all who responded. Tim Michnay stepped up immediately (he has seen firsthand the wrestling match I am having with this car). Tim is a fellow Kaney Aerospace employee who is local. It should be in the car this evening. Again, thanks everyone for the never-ending support over the past 15(!!) years on this list! Ron Soave Roscoe, IL __________________ It only goes one way Pay it forward __________________ >________________________________ > > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:18 AM >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack needed > >Guys and Gals, >I need a late model Spridget steering rack in a hurry for the new race car. >Anything out there? Located in Northern Illinois.... > >Thanks... > >Ron Soave >---------------------------- >It only goes one way >Pay it forward >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/neilandcustom at gmail.com From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Aug 23 09:56:43 2012 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:56:43 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC Message-ID: <20120823.095643.23679.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> 'Copper' came from the Chicago (or was it NY) area in the lat 1800's or early 1900's, when the police wore Copper badges. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:58:05 -0500 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC Message-ID: <659F96826CB34989BDCD66869E6AE0AF at Dell9200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Constable on Patrol = COP I think Copper came from West Side Story :) ----- Original Message ----- And where did the name Copper come from? Bill in Oregon From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 10:32:12 2012 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC In-Reply-To: <20120823.095643.23679.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> References: <20120823.095643.23679.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Not so according to several authorities... Read here: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2209/why-are-the-police-called-cops-pigs-or-the-fuzz Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > 'Copper' came from the Chicago (or was it NY) area in the lat 1800's or > early > 1900's, when the police wore Copper badges. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > AN5L8016 > > > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:58:05 -0500 > From: "Mark" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC > Message-ID: <659F96826CB34989BDCD66869E6AE0AF at Dell9200> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Constable on Patrol = COP > > I think Copper came from West Side Story :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > And where did the name Copper come from? Bill in Oregon > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexis de Tocqueville - From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Aug 23 12:19:41 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil filters Message-ID: <1346b6.4065ce88.3d67ce3d@aol.com> And that it is wired for lock wiring to a suitable bolt so never works loose. In a message dated 22/08/2012 23:11:31 GMT Daylight Time, mark at nashvilletn.org writes: One really nice thing about the K&N is the 1 inch nut welded on the bottom of the filter. It makes it a lot easier to get off in the tight space on the Spridget. It cost about twice what the WIX filter costs (that I had been using) but that amounts to about $5-6 bucks a year so no big deal. Mark Nashville From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Aug 23 12:21:09 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Po Po - Aliens in the attic - no LBC Message-ID: <13477c.40d58ef.3d67ce95@aol.com> That was the other one I've been meaning to ask about 'are you with the man' - Miami Vice. In a message dated 23/08/2012 00:04:58 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: the man, From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Aug 23 14:33:58 2012 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:33:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brake adjusters Message-ID: <503693B6.7040102@wi.net> Anyone out there want to part with some Bugeye or Sprite MkII/Midget MkI drum brake adjusters? I need 4 "cages" and cams. Thanks, Dave W. Burlington WI From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 15:03:54 2012 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] We won! Message-ID: <1345755834.65112.YahooMailNeo@web122101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> We won! http://blog.caranddriver.com/24-hours-of-lemons-road-america-the-winners/ Trying to figure out a homage to Frank and Paul car for the future. Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." From millerls at ado13.com Thu Aug 23 15:35:37 2012 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:35:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] brake adjusters In-Reply-To: <503693B6.7040102@wi.net> References: <503693B6.7040102@wi.net> Message-ID: <3CC33C1C-79A6-4C21-A9DF-0436E710FB9C@ado13.com> I think I have some Dave. Larry On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:33 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > Anyone out there want to part with some Bugeye or Sprite MkII/Midget MkI drum brake adjusters? I need 4 "cages" and cams. > > Thanks, > > Dave W. > Burlington WI > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com From tmheffron at aol.com Thu Aug 23 15:42:21 2012 From: tmheffron at aol.com (Tmheffron) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:42:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We won! Message-ID: <7r0itxq31i4ebukyfcyxnj0g.1345758141957@email.android.com> Congratulation! You are a towering monument to Anglo-Italian-Shitbox driving. Sent from my U.S. CellularB. Android-powered phone Ron Soave wrote: >We won! >http://blog.caranddriver.com/24-hours-of-lemons-road-america-the-winners/ >Trying to figure out a homage to Frank and Paul car for the future. > >Ron >Soave >Roscoe, IL > > >"It only goes one way." >"Pay it forward." >------------------------ > >spridgets at autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tmheffron at aol.com From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Aug 23 16:06:34 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:06:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We won! In-Reply-To: <1345755834.65112.YahooMailNeo@web122101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1345755834.65112.YahooMailNeo@web122101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D0201B7-9390-4A0C-8AA2-612EB272A9D5@chartermi.net> A supercharged Morris Minor with A/C would be just the ticket. :-) Rick Sent from my Commodore VIC-20 On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > We won! > http://blog.caranddriver.com/24-hours-of-lemons-road-america-the-winners/ > Trying to figure out a homage to Frank and Paul car for the future. > > Ron > Soave > Roscoe, IL > > > "It only goes one way." > "Pay it forward." > ------------------------ From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Aug 23 16:09:16 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:09:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake adjusters In-Reply-To: <3CC33C1C-79A6-4C21-A9DF-0436E710FB9C@ado13.com> References: <503693B6.7040102@wi.net> <3CC33C1C-79A6-4C21-A9DF-0436E710FB9C@ado13.com> Message-ID: <948BA873-B4D9-4D08-AAF3-FE1818FDB987@chartermi.net> I've been digging and have found a couple sets. Think I have more somewhere. Still digging. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > I think I have some Dave. > > Larry > > On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:33 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > >> Anyone out there want to part with some Bugeye or Sprite MkII/Midget MkI > drum brake adjusters? I need 4 "cages" and cams. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave W. >> Burlington WI >> ------------------------ >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Aug 23 16:17:14 2012 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] We won! In-Reply-To: <7r0itxq31i4ebukyfcyxnj0g.1345758141957@email.android.com> References: <7r0itxq31i4ebukyfcyxnj0g.1345758141957@email.android.com> Message-ID: <1345760234.18445.YahooMailNeo@web122104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Ummm.....thanks. Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." >________________________________ > From: Tmheffron >To: Ron Soave ; Spridgets >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:42 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] We won! > >Congratulation! You are a towering monument to Anglo-Italian-Shitbox driving. >Sent from my U.S. Cellular. Android-powered phone > >Ron Soave wrote: > >>We won! >>http://blog.caranddriver.com/24-hours-of-lemons-road-america-the-winners/ >>Trying to figure out a homage to Frank and Paul car for the future. >> >>Ron >>Soave >>Roscoe, IL >> >> >>"It only goes one way." >>"Pay it forward." >>------------------------ >> >>spridgets at autox.team.net >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tmheffron at aol.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Aug 23 20:52:40 2012 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:52:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We won! In-Reply-To: <1345755834.65112.YahooMailNeo@web122101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1345755834.65112.YahooMailNeo@web122101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Congrats! Lester On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > We won! > http://blog.caranddriver.com/24-hours-of-lemons-road-america-the-winners/ > Trying to figure out a homage to Frank and Paul car for the future. > > Ron > Soave > Roscoe, IL > > > "It only goes one way." > "Pay it forward." > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 07:57:05 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye Message-ID: List, I stumbled across this youtube of the 1960's in San Francisco. If you just want to skip all the flower power go to 1:38 to see a poor little Bugeye dipped in Hippy Dust. Anyone from SF know of this little Bugeye? Also a VW bus 1:35. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=n54kbhRIcwo Enjoy, Lin From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 24 08:32:24 2012 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1345818744.55707.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I would mention that this is NSFW.... ooops! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye List, I stumbled across this youtube of the 1960's in San Francisco. If you just want to skip all the flower power go to 1:38 to see a poor little Bugeye dipped in Hippy Dust. Anyone from SF know of this little Bugeye? Also a VW bus 1:35. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=n54kbhRIcwo Enjoy, Lin ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 09:03:51 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:03:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye - Top 10 Deadliest Car In-Reply-To: <125E702415D04AD8B6B39494AAF2ECFA@dell1> References: <1345689360.91650.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1345690271.69993.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <125E702415D04AD8B6B39494AAF2ECFA@dell1> Message-ID: I know the Bay window bus is listed but here are Split bus wrecks, a link from my other group which always gives me chills regarding using my bus. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=322071&highlight=wrecks Lin On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Biff Jones wrote: > Jay, > > Click on the link HealeyRick posted and see the authors 'top ten' list. > I left a comment for the author, a Mr. Bey. > http://www.askmen.com/top_10/cars/top-10-deadliest-car-designs_5.html#ixzz24KhJUfoL > > Biff ------------------------ > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 09:05:04 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:05:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye In-Reply-To: <1345818744.55707.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1345818744.55707.YahooMailNeo@web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I had to look up your acronym...wink. Lin On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > I would mention that this is NSFW.... ooops! > > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:57 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye > > List, > I stumbled across this youtube of the 1960's in San Francisco. If you > just want to skip all the flower power go to 1:38 to see a poor > little Bugeye dipped in Hippy Dust. Anyone from SF know of this little > Bugeye? Also a VW bus 1:35. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=n54kbhRIcwo > > Enjoy, > Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From frogeye at cox.net Fri Aug 24 09:06:26 2012 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:06:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] listers in Northern Washington State close to Bellingham.... Message-ID: If anyone is near Bellingham,WA please find me offlist Thanks Alan frogeye at cox.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 09:06:27 2012 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:06:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Link .......Sports Cars In-Reply-To: <5035853E.8030406@bradakis.com> References: <5035853E.8030406@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Hope you can see some of it Mark. Lin On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Yep, the exhibit is about a mile east of my house. RealSoonNow.... > > mjb. > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Aug 24 09:12:07 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye - Top 10 Deadliest Car In-Reply-To: References: <1345689360.91650.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1345690271.69993.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <125E702415D04AD8B6B39494AAF2ECFA@dell1> Message-ID: <1345821127.22937.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have never been scared nor concerned for my safety in any car due to it's design and construction. The only things that concern me are those outside of my control, such as an idiot driving the wrong way on an interstate or getting rear-ended at a high-speed. In both these cases, there are no cars that would adequately protect someone. jay ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Biff Jones Cc: Jay ; HealeyRick ; Spridgets List Sent: Fri, August 24, 2012 11:03:53 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye - Top 10 Deadliest Car I know the Bay window bus is listed but here are Split bus wrecks, a link from my other group which always gives me chills regarding using my bus. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=322071&highlight=wrecks Lin On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Biff Jones wrote: > Jay, > > Click on the link HealeyRick posted and see the authors 'top ten' list. > I left a comment for the author, a Mr. Bey. >http://www.askmen.com/top_10/cars/top-10-deadliest-car-designs_5.html#ixzz24KhJUfoL >L From peter at nosimport.com Fri Aug 24 10:30:15 2012 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:30:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120824163017.25D339A48EF@mx2.netinteraction.com> Looks a lot like Madison WI..... today! Peter C At 08:57 AM 8/24/2012, Linda Grunthaner wrote: >List, >I stumbled across this youtube of the 1960's in San Francisco. If you >just want to skip all the flower power go to 1:38 to see a poor >little Bugeye dipped in Hippy Dust. Anyone from SF know of this little >Bugeye? Also a VW bus 1:35. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=n54kbhRIcwo > >Enjoy, >Lin From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Aug 24 13:52:42 2012 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:52:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5037DB8A.8080607@wi.net> No way to treat a Bugeye. ;-) On 8/24/2012 8:57 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I stumbled across this youtube of the 1960's in San Francisco. If you > just want to skip all the flower power go to 1:38 to see a poor > little Bugeye dipped in Hippy Dust. Anyone from SF know of this little > Bugeye? Also a VW bus 1:35. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=n54kbhRIcwo > > Enjoy, > Lin From leavcast at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 14:55:24 2012 From: leavcast at gmail.com (George Castleberry) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:55:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye References: <20120824163017.25D339A48EF@mx2.netinteraction.com> Message-ID: I looked for myself in the footage....used to hang there in high school. George C 54 AH100 59 AN5 Flagstaff, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Caldwell To: Spridget list Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye Looks a lot like Madison WI..... today! Peter C From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Aug 24 16:32:01 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:32:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hippy Bugeye In-Reply-To: <5037DB8A.8080607@wi.net> References: <5037DB8A.8080607@wi.net> Message-ID: Hey Dave look what popped up on ebay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/MG-TD-TF-MGA-TR2-TR3-SPRITE-MORRIS-MINOR-BRAKE-SHOE-A DJUST-CAM-X-2-OE-LOCKHEED-/330782851556?hash=item4d0431c1e4&item=330782851556 &pt=LH_DefaultDomain_100&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_922 How ya doing in your search? Rick On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:52 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > No way to treat a Bugeye. ;-) From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Aug 24 18:10:11 2012 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:10:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake adjusters In-Reply-To: References: <5037DB8A.8080607@wi.net> Message-ID: <44621.173.109.141.227.1345853411.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Of xourse they show up on eBay! ;-) Those are only the cams though and I need the cages as well. Thanks for being vigilant! A big THANK YOU to Larry Miller who has popped some in the mail and to all who responded. Great group! Dave W. > Hey Dave look what popped up on ebay - > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/MG-TD-TF-MGA-TR2-TR3-SPRITE-MORRIS-MINOR-BRAKE-SHOE-ADJUST-CAM-X-2-OE-LOCKHEED-/330782851556?hash=item4d0431c1e4&item=330782851556&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_100&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_922 > > How ya doing in your search? > > Rick > > > On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:52 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > >> No way to treat a Bugeye. ;-) From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sat Aug 25 11:58:57 2012 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:58:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift Message-ID: I'd like to buy a car lift (four post) to get the sprite in the air to work underneath. I'd also like to use it to store a car on top and park one underneath. I would't be opposed to a used one if safe and complete. Any of you have suggestions for one? Looking for something safe and one that doesn't cost as much as another car. I have 103" clearance under the open garage door. Thanks for any advice. Dick Byrne in NH From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Aug 25 12:32:34 2012 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:32:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Used fork lifts are cheap. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Aug 25 12:45:30 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:45:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I see them used on craigslist sometimes. My buddy has a Mohawk two post. When they came to install it the installer said he'd never put one that large in a home shop before. My buddy works on 2.5T military trucks for fun. They make the drive on lifts for storage. The two post has some advantages. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Aug 25 12:52:45 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:52:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <651A806C35844DF8A1FA5FE93C8CA800@spider> Except for the footprint of the forklift. ================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:33 AM To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] car lift Used fork lifts are cheap. ------------------------ From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sat Aug 25 03:02:58 2012 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 05:02:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Car Lift Message-ID: First - be careful buying a used lift, you can quickly spend more on replacement cables, pumps and cylinders then the cost of a new lift. Second - 103" is not a lot of room - a Spridget with windshield has got to be close to 48" tall? 48 + 48 + 8" (for the lift tread) = 104" People here: http://garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3 are always discussing lifts. Most cheap (thrifty) priced parking lifts are rated for 7,000-8,000 lbs, so I would think our light cars should be fine on even the cheapest lift - but remember safety. This is the one I am thinking of: http://www.eagleequip.com/product/GLO-8000.html their warehouse is only $80 shipping from me; but I have not checked the tread spacing to the Spridgets track. Dean Swanson Holly Springs, NC '62 A.H. Sprite mkII (currently sitting outside) From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sat Aug 25 15:51:08 2012 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:51:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: <651A806C35844DF8A1FA5FE93C8CA800@spider> References: <651A806C35844DF8A1FA5FE93C8CA800@spider> Message-ID: <69CB34624FD74A72902DF9EB67E8C47C@MAIN> A few years ago I bought a "Backyard Buddy" 4 poster, Model #9000. I chose this one because The post pads will sit on 4 inches of concrete floor with no further footing required. I needed this model for my extended cab pickup. The problem with my bugeye is I have to mount the wheels backward to get it on the lift. The drive on ramps are simply too wide apart. I have used this lift extensively and never had a problem. I know that "Back Yard Buddy" makes a smaller model, (5000, I think) but I don't know the dimensions. My lift bay in the garage is 11 feet high with scissor trusses to accommodate the lift. -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:52 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] car lift Except for the footprint of the forklift. ================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:33 AM To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] car lift Used fork lifts are cheap. ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5223 - Release Date: 08/25/12 From jjkan5 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 25 16:05:28 2012 From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1345932328.88309.YahooMailNeo@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Dick - I am about to order a BendPak HD 9-ST 4 post lift. I am having my garage door re-radiused for additional height. The HD9-ST has the narrowest of tracks that I could find and BendPak has very positive reviews. In fact, a fellow British Car owner near me (a TR3 and "E" type Jag) is having the same lift installed this week. ________________________________ From: "lindalnhvt at nhvt.net" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: [Spridgets] car lift I'd like to buy a car lift (four post) to get the sprite in the air to work underneath. I'd also like to use it to store a car on top and park one underneath. I would't be opposed to a used one if safe and complete. Any of you have suggestions for one? Looking for something safe and one that doesn't cost as much as another car. I have 103" clearance under the open garage door. Thanks for any advice. Dick Byrne in NH ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jjkan5 at yahoo.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Aug 26 11:14:17 2012 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:14:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Stand Message-ID: Anyone who has the kind of engine stand with two parallel legs in front, please contact me off-list. http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100595181/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=engine+stand&storeId=10051#.UDpZHKB2OSo It looks like the free radius of this kind of stand will accommodate a 54" Spridget tub on a rotisserie. The single-leg style will not. Michael Rowe From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Aug 26 16:06:51 2012 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (60bugeye at cebridge.net) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Stand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the upright neck will not be tall enough to let it roll all the way around. It is shy by about three inches. I would also add some side bracing to the uprite leg. Be careful and make sure you tie the bottoms together with a long piece of square tubing. Been there done that and finally I just decided to build my own rotisserie from scratch as I wanted a much more robust one. Last thing I wanted to happen was it to fail after doing hours of prep and blocksanding before paint. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:14 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Stand Anyone who has the kind of engine stand with two parallel legs in front, please contact me off-list. http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100595181/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=engine+stand&storeId=10051#.UDpZHKB2OSo It looks like the free radius of this kind of stand will accommodate a 54" Spridget tub on a rotisserie. The single-leg style will not. Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sun Aug 26 04:53:35 2012 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 06:53:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift Message-ID: <9B98573466CE4503813375455C8BC73C@HomeComputer> Don't forget, there is also the "Stack-O-Matic": http://www.gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/lift/bugeyeliftWS.html From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Aug 27 08:39:33 2012 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:39:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Stand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM, <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > the upright neck will not be tall enough to let it roll all the way > around. It is shy by about three inches. I would also add some side > bracing to the uprite leg. Be careful and make sure you tie the bottoms > together with a long piece of square tubing. Been there done that and > finally I just decided to build my own rotisserie from scratch as I wanted > a much more robust one. Last thing I wanted to happen was it to fail after > doing hours of prep and blocksanding before paint. > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:14 PM > To: Spridget Chat Group > Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Stand > > > Anyone who has the kind of engine stand with two parallel legs in front, > please contact me off-list. > > > http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100595181/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=engine+stand&storeId=10051#.UDpZHKB2OSo > > It looks like the free radius of this kind of stand will accommodate a 54" > Spridget tub on a rotisserie. The single-leg style will not. > > Michael Rowe > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net------------------------ > > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net > Another thing to consider. The vertical part of this stand is not vertical. If this is like the ones I bought, when you rotate it, the rotating shaft is not horizontal, so it ain't going to work so well. I took two of these and made a rotisserie for my big Healey. I didn't have enough clearance either as described above. As I recall, I mounted a couple of 2x4s under the rear. Then mounted the rear wheels on that. This gave me enough clearance and also solved the non-vertical issue. Heard From abcoz at hky.com Mon Aug 27 10:50:43 2012 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:50:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Stand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011701cd8474$19fc72a0$4df557e0$@hky.com> I built my rotisserie from a couple of Harbor Freight engine stands. I had the necessary tubing lying around my workshop to add about 6" to their height. When I added to their height, it was easy to align the "barrel" or receiver so that it was parallel to the floor. I used the least expensive engine stands, with three rollers. I widened the base of one stand by a few feet and ran diagonal bracing from right above the rollers to right below the barrel/receiver, then just used a 2" x 4" p/t wooden spar between the longitudinal legs and that is all it needs. I've even loaded it onto my trailer, with a Spridget aboard, to move it outside for sand-blasting. I'm going to be building another rotisserie, using similar methods, for my MGB-GT restoration. No worries about strength or stability whatsoever. It'll support far more weight than I'll ever put on it. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:40 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine Stand On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM, <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > the upright neck will not be tall enough to let it roll all the way > around. It is shy by about three inches. I would also add some side > bracing to the uprite leg. Be careful and make sure you tie the > bottoms together with a long piece of square tubing. Been there done > that and finally I just decided to build my own rotisserie from > scratch as I wanted a much more robust one. Last thing I wanted to > happen was it to fail after doing hours of prep and blocksanding before paint. > > Leo From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Aug 27 11:49:01 2012 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:49:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: <9B98573466CE4503813375455C8BC73C@HomeComputer> References: <9B98573466CE4503813375455C8BC73C@HomeComputer> Message-ID: At 06:53 AM 8/26/2012, Dean Swanson wrote: >Don't forget, there is also the "Stack-O-Matic": Has anyone actually built a "Stack-O-Matic" other than the author? Tim Collins From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Mon Aug 27 12:50:27 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:50:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C8C4A7F-BBD6-4662-940B-762C12BE0696@gerardsgarage.com> Dean, LOL.... I'm surprised anyone remembers it. I have not been able to use it since I had to move, so if anyone is interested, I'd consider selling it. I don't think there is anyone here close enough though. Gerard On Aug 27, 2012, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 06:53:35 -0400 > From: "Dean Swanson" > To: > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] car lift > Message-ID: <9B98573466CE4503813375455C8BC73C at HomeComputer> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Don't forget, there is also the "Stack-O-Matic": > > > > http://www.gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/lift/bugeyeliftWS.html From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Aug 27 13:31:35 2012 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:31:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: <1C8C4A7F-BBD6-4662-940B-762C12BE0696@gerardsgarage.com> References: <1C8C4A7F-BBD6-4662-940B-762C12BE0696@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: Gerard, Tell us more about it. Were you happy with your design after having used it for awhile. Would you change anything? Were you ever worried about dropping your car? At 02:50 PM 8/27/2012, Gerard wrote: >Dean, > >LOL.... I'm surprised anyone remembers it. I have not been able to use >it since I had to move, so if anyone is interested, I'd consider >selling it. I don't think there is anyone here close enough though. > >Gerard Tim Collins From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Mon Aug 27 13:41:52 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: <1C8C4A7F-BBD6-4662-940B-762C12BE0696@gerardsgarage.com> References: <1C8C4A7F-BBD6-4662-940B-762C12BE0696@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: Tim, It works great. I never worried about the car falling as there are 1" dia. steel pins (both sides) every couple inches as a safety. It's solid and stable as can be. I've been saving it for the last 10 years since I moved, hoping I could find a way to use it in my garage, but the layout of the space just doesn't work. My old garage had a space to the side, just far enough out of the way that it did not obstruct getting cars in and out, so it was perfect. Here, it would always be in the drive path. I did make a number of modifications from the original drawing, but the photos are of the actual installation and the 3D views reflect the changes I made. It's strong enough to hold up a house. Gerard On Aug 27, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Tim Collins wrote: > Gerard, > Tell us more about it. Were you happy with your design after having > used it for awhile. Would you change anything? Were you ever worried > about dropping your car? > > At 02:50 PM 8/27/2012, Gerard wrote: >> Dean, >> >> LOL.... I'm surprised anyone remembers it. I have not been able to >> use >> it since I had to move, so if anyone is interested, I'd consider >> selling it. I don't think there is anyone here close enough though. >> >> Gerard > > Tim Collins From lists at dinospider.com Mon Aug 27 14:30:36 2012 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:30:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: <1345932328.88309.YahooMailNeo@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1345932328.88309.YahooMailNeo@web126001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <503BD8EC.9060001@dinospider.com> Careful when planning on the width of the lift. About 10-12 years ago, I purchased a 4post lift for my Singer's, I chose a lift that had absolutely the smallest footprint and narrowest space between the ramps and it fit the Singer's just fine. If I fold the mirrors I can get my GMC Sierra on it easily. Now I bought a new car and I have about 2" to spare on each side to the posts, when I put my new car on the ramps, the outside of the tires are sticking over the ramps (still safe) but its scary to get the car on the lift or even under it where I park it daily. Just saying, there are ways to make a lift narrower for small cars like a spridget (move the ramps closer, it can be done especially if you buy new and tell them in advance) but you can't make a lift bigger. mike On 08/25/2012 03:05 PM, John Kuzman wrote: > Dick - > > I am about to order a BendPak HD 9-ST 4 post lift. I am having my > garage door re-radiused for additional height. The HD9-ST has the narrowest of > tracks that I could find and BendPak has very positive reviews. In fact, a > fellow British Car owner near me (a TR3 and "E" type Jag) is having the same > lift installed this week. > ________________________________ > From: > "lindalnhvt at nhvt.net" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:58 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] car lift > > > I'd > like to buy a car lift (four post) to get the sprite in the air to > work > underneath. I'd also like to use it to store a car on top and park > one > underneath. I would't be opposed to a used one if safe and complete. > Any of > you have suggestions for one? Looking for something safe and one > that doesn't > cost as much as another car. I have 103" clearance under the > open garage door. > Thanks for any advice. > Dick Byrne in NH > ------------------------ > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested > annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jjkan5 at yahoo.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 14:32:26 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: <1C8C4A7F-BBD6-4662-940B-762C12BE0696@gerardsgarage.com> References: <1C8C4A7F-BBD6-4662-940B-762C12BE0696@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <1346099546.90645.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Gerard, I have a Bass-o-matic to trade! Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Gerard T LOL.... I'm surprised anyone remembers it. I have not been able to use it since I had to move, so if anyone is interested, I'd consider I don't think there is anyone here close enough though. Gerard From billyj at txjames.com Mon Aug 27 16:13:46 2012 From: billyj at txjames.com (billyj at txjames.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift Message-ID: <47723.1346105626@txjames.com> /local/mailman/lynxXXXX5C1HRk: Permission denied From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 17:25:21 2012 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:25:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Issac moving into the delta area... Message-ID: Listers who live in the Louisiana delta eastward to the Mobile Bay area please heed warnings to evacuate... This could be a very bad storm.... -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexis de Tocqueville - From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Aug 27 18:37:16 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:37:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Alexis de Tocqueville In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexis de Tocqueville - ------------------------ From d.swanson at earthlink.net Mon Aug 27 08:30:50 2012 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:30:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: car lift Message-ID: <46C850172A814214B23A130492D3CDB4@HomeComputer> Some of us have been around a while... My brother suggested I just get four Harbor Freight manual chain hoists and hook one from the garage ceiling to each corner of my Sprite..."They can't weight THAT much..." -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] car lift Dean, LOL.... I'm surprised anyone remembers it. I have not been able to use it since I had to move, so if anyone is interested, I'd consider selling it. I don't think there is anyone here close enough though. Gerard From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 20:07:19 2012 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:07:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Alexis de Tocqueville In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting fellow. If you've not done so, read about him. Herb On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM, wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville > > "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only > exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the > public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate > promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because > of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a > dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexis de Tocqueville - > ------------------------ > ------------------------ From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Aug 27 22:30:51 2012 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:30:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Alexis de Tocqueville In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62582.173.111.173.72.1346128251.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Kinda nailed the situation didn't he? > Interesting fellow. If you've not done so, read about him. > Herb > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM, wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville >> >> "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only >> exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the >> public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate >> promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses >> because >> of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a >> dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexis de Tocqueville - >> ------------------------ >> ------------------------ > ------------------------ > From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Aug 28 05:35:04 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FW: car lift In-Reply-To: <46C850172A814214B23A130492D3CDB4@HomeComputer> References: <46C850172A814214B23A130492D3CDB4@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <1346153704.88519.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Oh, Frank would've just loved that idea. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Dean Swanson To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:30 AM Subject: [Spridgets] FW: car lift Some of us have been around a while... My brother suggested I just get four Harbor Freight manual chain hoists and hook one from the garage ceiling to each corner of my Sprite..."They can't weight THAT much..." From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Aug 28 05:53:38 2012 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:53:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: car lift In-Reply-To: <46C850172A814214B23A130492D3CDB4@HomeComputer> References: <46C850172A814214B23A130492D3CDB4@HomeComputer> Message-ID: > My brother suggested I just get four Harbor Freight manual chain hoists > and hook one from the garage ceiling to each corner of my Sprite. In my hunting for rotisserie designs, I saw a picture in which a tub was hung from the ceiling on comealongs to the center of the ends. The car was braced to the floor when in position. How about 4"x4"s under the pan. How are your ceiling joists? In a lot of these things, you can substitute time for money. Cheap mechanical advantage takes time. Michael Rowe From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Aug 28 07:00:52 2012 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:00:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Alexis de Tocqueville In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EDD9C378A204201A9D06A53FB05238B@spider> "You can't sustain a standard of living by borrowing." Senator Judd Gregg ret. 5:50am Squawkbox on CNBC - 28 Aug.2012 _____ From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:07 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alexis de Tocqueville Interesting fellow. If you've not done so, read about him. Herb On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM, wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexis de Tocqueville - ------------------------ ------------------------ From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Tue Aug 28 12:29:22 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:29:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've used this technique to quickly and easily invert the Bugeye shell (for restoration purposes), but have it hoisted just long enough to invert and set it down on a cart. Also, you only need to get it about 3 feet off the ground. I don't think that leaving it hanging from wooden joists for an extended period of time would be a good idea. I wouldn't even consider it unless it was all supported from a steel supported structure. It would take a long time to raise and lower safely too. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Gerard On Aug 28, 2012, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:53:38 -0400 > From: Michael Rowe > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: car lift > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > >> My brother suggested I just get four Harbor Freight manual chain >> hoists >> and hook one from the garage ceiling to each corner of my Sprite. > > In my hunting for rotisserie designs, I saw a picture in which a > tub was > hung from the ceiling on comealongs to the center of the ends. The > car was > braced to the floor when in position. How about 4"x4"s under the > pan. How > are your ceiling joists? In a lot of these things, you can > substitute time > for money. Cheap mechanical advantage takes time. > > Michael Rowe From grday at btinternet.com Tue Aug 28 13:31:40 2012 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:31:40 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift References: Message-ID: You could try using 4 vertical sections of 4"x4" under the joists as close as possible to the hanging points and it wouldn't be too difficult to get hold of some strengthening U shaped metal sections for under where the joist is used for hanging. Extend those into a metal support area side to side between the hanging points. You could cut a slot into the top of the 4"x 4" so it holds a little better under the joist. They would still be a pain and get in the way. A normal roofing joist is not designed or constructed to take additional weight on point loads and like Gerard, would be very, very wary of the project. You may find the house insurance won't cover you for the rebuild of a roof if you have dragged it down yourself. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerard" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] car lift > I've used this technique to quickly and easily invert the Bugeye shell > (for restoration purposes), but have it hoisted just long enough to > invert and set it down on a cart. Also, you only need to get it about > 3 feet off the ground. > > I don't think that leaving it hanging from wooden joists for an > extended period of time would be a good idea. I wouldn't even consider > it unless it was all supported from a steel supported structure. It > would take a long time to raise and lower safely too. Sounds like an > accident waiting to happen. > > Gerard > > On Aug 28, 2012, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > >> Message: 13 >> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:53:38 -0400 >> From: Michael Rowe >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: car lift >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; >> reply-type=original >> >>> My brother suggested I just get four Harbor Freight manual chain >>> hoists >>> and hook one from the garage ceiling to each corner of my Sprite. >> >> In my hunting for rotisserie designs, I saw a picture in which a >> tub was >> hung from the ceiling on comealongs to the center of the ends. The >> car was >> braced to the floor when in position. How about 4"x4"s under the >> pan. How >> are your ceiling joists? In a lot of these things, you can >> substitute time >> for money. Cheap mechanical advantage takes time. >> >> Michael Rowe > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From d.swanson at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 17:50:14 2012 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:50:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: car lift Message-ID: <0EED54ACDBCB45ED86800BED4FEC8B28@HomeComputer> Oh, I wouldn't try it, but I know some people have pulled some awfully big/heavy V8s with a chain looped over only ONE rafter - but that was back when wood was real wood... -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: car lift > My brother suggested I just get four Harbor Freight manual chain hoists > and hook one from the garage ceiling to each corner of my Sprite. In my hunting for rotisserie designs, I saw a picture in which a tub was hung from the ceiling on comealongs to the center of the ends. The car was braced to the floor when in position. How about 4"x4"s under the pan. How are your ceiling joists? In a lot of these things, you can substitute time for money. Cheap mechanical advantage takes time. Michael Rowe ------------------------ From d.swanson at earthlink.net Tue Aug 28 18:05:05 2012 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:05:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Now: ponderosa pine (was: car lift) Message-ID: For all you math types, you can go here: http://www.matweb.com/search/datasheet.aspx?matguid=be613a162b34418bbd65355f 5ea8b155&ckck=1 to get the mechanical properties of ponderosa pine to see just how much it will hold. This might help: http://www.awc.org/calculators/connections/ccstyle.asp?design_method=ASD&con nection_type=Lateral+loading&fastener_types=Nail&loading_scenario=Single+She ar&mm_type=Spruce-Pine-Fir&mm_thickness=1.5&mm_thickness_text=&sm_type=Plywo od+(other+grades)&sm_thickness=0.46875&sm_thickness_text=&fast_dia=box&nail_ size=6d&load_duration=1.0&wet_svc_factor=1.0&end_grain=1.0&temperature=1.0&d iaphragm=1.0&submit2_LNS=Calculate+Connection+Capacity -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] car lift You could try using 4 vertical sections of 4"x4" under the joists as close as possible to the hanging points and it wouldn't be too difficult to get hold of some strengthening U shaped metal sections for under where the joist is used for hanging. Extend those into a metal support area side to side between the hanging points. You could cut a slot into the top of the 4"x 4" so it holds a little better under the joist. They would still be a pain and get in the way. A normal roofing joist is not designed or constructed to take additional weight on point loads and like Gerard, would be very, very wary of the project. You may find the house insurance won't cover you for the rebuild of a roof if you have dragged it down yourself. Guy R Day From billyj at txjames.com Tue Aug 28 18:25:32 2012 From: billyj at txjames.com (Billy J.) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:25:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] car lift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <503D617C.2090908@txjames.com> Wood reacts to load according to the length of time the load is in place. Building codes have different factors depending on whether the load is from wind or snow or something that will be there for a long time. I pulled the engine out of my midget using 2 ceiling joists in my garage. I've been up there several times and I know I've had all of my weight on a single joist. I figured the partial engine didn't weigh any more than I did, and for safety I distributed the load among 2 joists. If you can distribute your load out among enough joists you can carry a lot of load and this might make it reasonable to hang just the body tub for a short period of time. > I don't think that leaving it hanging from wooden joists for an > extended period of time would be a good idea. I wouldn't even consider > it unless it was all supported from a steel supported structure. It > would take a long time to raise and lower safely too. Sounds like an > accident waiting to happen. From billyj at txjames.com Tue Aug 28 18:30:33 2012 From: billyj at txjames.com (Billy J.) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:30:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now: ponderosa pine (was: car lift) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <503D62A9.3000500@txjames.com> I'm a structural engineer and I would suggest not. > For all you math types, you can go here: > http://www.matweb.com/search/datasheet.aspx?matguid=be613a162b34418bbd65355f > 5ea8b155&ckck=1 to get the mechanical properties of ponderosa pine to see > just how much it will hold. > > This might help: > http://www.awc.org/calculators/connections/ccstyle.asp?design_method=ASD&con > nection_type=Lateral+loading&fastener_types=Nail&loading_scenario=Single+She > ar&mm_type=Spruce-Pine-Fir&mm_thickness=1.5&mm_thickness_text=&sm_type=Plywo > od+(other+grades)&sm_thickness=0.46875&sm_thickness_text=&fast_dia=box&nail_ > size=6d&load_duration=1.0&wet_svc_factor=1.0&end_grain=1.0&temperature=1.0&d > iaphragm=1.0&submit2_LNS=Calculate+Connection+Capacity From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Aug 28 19:08:23 2012 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:08:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: car lift In-Reply-To: <0EED54ACDBCB45ED86800BED4FEC8B28@HomeComputer> References: <0EED54ACDBCB45ED86800BED4FEC8B28@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <44D111547F3045B2B3E71CF26506967E@Home> >but that was back when wood was real wood... And men were men - to pull such a stunt. My $50 engine stands have shipped to my local Wally World. I still have not figured out how to get the tub up on them. I guess the easiest way is four teenagers. Michael Rowe From lotuspilot at frontier.com Wed Aug 29 05:38:28 2012 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Now: ponderosa pine (was: car lift) In-Reply-To: <503D62A9.3000500@txjames.com> References: <503D62A9.3000500@txjames.com> Message-ID: <1346240308.47388.YahooMailNeo@web124901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I am not a structural engineer but a chemist. Shouldn't you ask what size trusses are used over what span and whether it would be a uniform load as opposed to point loads? Could have been manufactured heavy duty ;^) Mike ________________________________ From: Billy J. To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now: ponderosa pine (was: car lift) I'm a structural engineer and I would suggest not. > For all you math types, you can go here: > http://www.matweb.com/search/datasheet.aspx?matguid=be613a162b34418bbd65355f > 5ea8b155&ckck=1 to get the mechanical properties of ponderosa pine to see > just how much it will hold. > > This might help: > http://www.awc.org/calculators/connections/ccstyle.asp?design_method=ASD&con > nection_type=Lateral+loading&fastener_types=Nail&loading_scenario=Single+She > ar&mm_type=Spruce-Pine-Fir&mm_thickness=1.5&mm_thickness_text=&sm_type=Plywo > od+(other+grades)&sm_thickness=0.46875&sm_thickness_text=&fast_dia=box&nail_ > size=6d&load_duration=1.0&wet_svc_factor=1.0&end_grain=1.0&temperature=1.0&d > iaphragm=1.0&submit2_LNS=Calculate+Connection+Capacity ------------------------ From abcoz at hky.com Wed Aug 29 09:03:32 2012 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:03:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: car lift In-Reply-To: <44D111547F3045B2B3E71CF26506967E@Home> References: <0EED54ACDBCB45ED86800BED4FEC8B28@HomeComputer> <44D111547F3045B2B3E71CF26506967E@Home> Message-ID: <02ba01cd85f7$751c7cf0$5f5576d0$@hky.com> Michael, I use an engine crane. Plenty of lifting capacity for picking up a Spridget body. For MGBs, I just lift one end at a time. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:08 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: car lift >but that was back when wood was real wood... And men were men - to pull such a stunt. My $50 engine stands have shipped to my local Wally World. I still have not figured out how to get the tub up on them. I guess the easiest way is four teenagers. Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/abcoz at hky.com From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Aug 29 12:51:55 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free 1098cc Engine(s) Message-ID: <1346266315.56866.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have two good 1098's that need a home before they end up at the landfill. Both were stored inside and are not seized. One was removed from a running car. If anyone wants one or both, contact me offline. They are located in Central Connecticut. Price is $0.00 and I am not accepting offers. Price is firm. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 13:59:21 2012 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:59:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Unusually Bad Gas Mileage Message-ID: My 59 1275 was in the garage for about a year before I finally got off my rear end and pulled the lump again to change the clutch and the gear box to a nice condition rib case. . . rebuilt slave cylinder and master cylinder, the regular stuff done while I had it apart. I checked my mileage (now that I also have a working speedo .. it was not working for a long time before this last engine pull). By way of the trip gauge showing mileage on the speedo I burned up 4 gallons over 64 miles of driving. I also checked the trip gauge by our other car knowing the distance of a trip to the bus stop park and ride that my wife takes to work each day. . .which is nearly an exact mile from our house . . so I think that my trip gauge is accurate. I have been running an OER side draft for the past 8 years. This is a Japanese side draft equivalent to an DCOE 45. It takes all the DCOE internals. It also has a float bowl adjustment as well as an accel pump adjustment. The carb has run flawlessly over the time I have had it. I also have a heavy foot. I like to push the revs and I double clutch from 3rd to second . . so my driving style would work against getting decent mileage. But to burn 4 gallons over 64 miles . . . not something that I would expect even with the way I like to drive the car. Could the fault be due to the 1275 being over carbuerated? Are there different internal parts that I should put into the carb so that it more accurately measures fuel for a stock 1275? (All stock except for headers). What gas mileage do 1275's get on the race track? Probably better than I am getting for sure? Any ideas are most welcomed! Kirk From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Aug 29 14:31:01 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free 1098cc Engine(s) Message-ID: <42654.20e2e47b.3d6fd601@aol.com> If no Spridget people want them maybe you might ask the Morris Minor people - shame to see them go to landfill. In a message dated 29/08/2012 19:52:16 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: I have two good 1098's that need a home before they end up at the landfill. Both were stored inside and are not seized. One was removed from a running car. If anyone wants one or both, contact me offline. They are located in Central Connecticut. Price is $0.00 and I am not accepting offers. Price is firm. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ------------------------ From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Aug 29 14:33:18 2012 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free 1098cc Engine(s) In-Reply-To: <42654.20e2e47b.3d6fd601@aol.com> References: <42654.20e2e47b.3d6fd601@aol.com> Message-ID: <1346272398.92110.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Good idea. I have a friend who specializes in Minors. I will contact him. Thanks, jay ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" To: jfishbein at snet.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, August 29, 2012 4:31:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Free 1098cc Engine(s) If no Spridget people want them maybe you might ask the Morris Minor people - shame to see them go to landfill. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Aug 29 14:36:08 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Unusually Bad Gas Mileage Message-ID: <42a3f.7e1b4d5f.3d6fd738@aol.com> Ignoring the conversion from US to UK gallons which I don't have handy it seems like you're getting 16 mpg. It won't be the engine having too big a carburettor but might be the carburettor having jet sizes too big and thereby running too rich. Your starting point is to establish what the main jet and pump jet sizes are and then debate those sizes against the spec of the engine. I don't think you can make a useful mpg comparasion to a racing spridget unless your car has a racing engine making about the same power (like over a hundred at the flywheel). Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 29/08/2012 20:59:26 GMT Daylight Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: My 59 1275 was in the garage for about a year before I finally got off my rear end and pulled the lump again to change the clutch and the gear box to a nice condition rib case. . . rebuilt slave cylinder and master cylinder, the regular stuff done while I had it apart. I checked my mileage (now that I also have a working speedo .. it was not working for a long time before this last engine pull). By way of the trip gauge showing mileage on the speedo I burned up 4 gallons over 64 miles of driving. I also checked the trip gauge by our other car knowing the distance of a trip to the bus stop park and ride that my wife takes to work each day. . .which is nearly an exact mile from our house . . so I think that my trip gauge is accurate. I have been running an OER side draft for the past 8 years. This is a Japanese side draft equivalent to an DCOE 45. It takes all the DCOE internals. It also has a float bowl adjustment as well as an accel pump adjustment. The carb has run flawlessly over the time I have had it. I also have a heavy foot. I like to push the revs and I double clutch from 3rd to second . . so my driving style would work against getting decent mileage. But to burn 4 gallons over 64 miles . . . not something that I would expect even with the way I like to drive the car. Could the fault be due to the 1275 being over carbuerated? Are there different internal parts that I should put into the carb so that it more accurately measures fuel for a stock 1275? (All stock except for headers). What gas mileage do 1275's get on the race track? Probably better than I am getting for sure? Any ideas are most welcomed! Kirk From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 14:49:07 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:49:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unusually Bad Gas Mileage In-Reply-To: <42a3f.7e1b4d5f.3d6fd738@aol.com> References: <42a3f.7e1b4d5f.3d6fd738@aol.com> Message-ID: In my experience DCOEs are great for racing but are terrible gas hogs on the street. I'm sure you can find some others running the 45s and compare jet settings. But, I doubt you'll find anyone running a DCOE 45 on the street who is getting better mileage than stock SUs. From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Aug 29 14:50:56 2012 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:50:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Unusually Bad Gas Mileage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: John Deikis '68 Works Midget (dual SU's) gets about 10-12 mpg running a 15 lap sprint at Grattan Raceway. This is just a guesstimate as we never have figured it out exactly. $9.00 a gallon for race gas at the track. :-) Rick Sent from my Commodore VIC-20 On Aug 29, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > My 59 1275 was in the garage for about a year before I finally got off my > rear end and pulled the lump again.............. > > I checked my mileage............... > > What gas mileage do 1275's get on the race track? Probably better than I > am getting for sure? > > Any ideas are most welcomed! > > Kirk > ------------------------ From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Aug 29 15:01:03 2012 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:01:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Unusually Bad Gas Mileage References: <42a3f.7e1b4d5f.3d6fd738@aol.com> Message-ID: I am running a 40 DCOE on my slightly hopped up 948 and get 18/20 mpg around town and 40 mpg on the road at 65+/- mph. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Aug 29 15:04:03 2012 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free 1098cc Engine(s) In-Reply-To: <1346266315.56866.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1346266315.56866.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1346274243.57548.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I call dibs on any 1380cc engines you're giving away! Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay To: Spridgets Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Free 1098cc Engine(s) I have two good 1098's that need a home before they end up at the landfill. Both were stored inside and are not seized. One was removed from a running car. If anyone wants one or both, contact me offline. They are located in Central Connecticut. Price is $0.00 and I am not accepting offers. Price is firm. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ------------------------ hoo.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Aug 29 15:06:27 2012 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Unusually Bad Gas Mileage Message-ID: <43ff6.543cb10d.3d6fde52@aol.com> The only reason you''ll get worse fuel consumption with a DCOE than SUs on a road car is that the DCOE doesn't cater for vacuum advance on the distributor. Other than that it's purely and simply down to the way the car is driven. It is of course very much the case that cars with a DCOE are driven more enthusiastically than those with SUs and the reason the DCOE is fitted in the first place. I expect 28mpg from my Sprite with hard acceleration, cruising at between 80 and 90 mph and occasional bursts up to and over a 100mph. Diff is 3.9, car has a five speed and power is over 100 flywheel. In a message dated 29/08/2012 21:49:08 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: In my experience DCOEs are great for racing but are terrible gas hogs on the street. I'm sure you can find some others running the 45s and compare jet settings. But, I doubt you'll find anyone running a DCOE 45 on the street who is getting better mileage than stock SUs. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 17:41:41 2012 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:41:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unusually Bad Gas Mileage In-Reply-To: References: <43ff6.543cb10d.3d6fde52@aol.com> Message-ID: That's my favorite setup. Once you get the needle (BDM? or is that a Browning Pistol model?) and spring right it just runs like a top. Single HIF44 (or HIF6) on a Titan manifold FTW. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Mike MacLean wrote: > Try a single HIF44 setup. I get a combined 36 MPG even with my foot in it. I'm running a 1275 with a Datsun 5 Speed in my Bugeye. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite From trishasauthoff at yahoo.com Wed Aug 29 18:25:47 2012 From: trishasauthoff at yahoo.com (Patricia Sauthoff) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <1346286347.56809.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web111511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://thehockeyshop.co.za/bing.com.php?wevjferuz=300&kevotj=60 From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Aug 30 01:03:24 2012 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:03:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Off topic- need help w/96 Ford Ranger issue Message-ID: <75C2EAEE-D38C-4C56-9DFB-F902B3FB96CF@gerardsgarage.com> Anyone here familiar with Ford fuel delivery/emission systems? I have been having a rough idle problems with this truck. I've replaced the water temp sender and the IAC, and cleaned the MAF with the proper cleaner, but there's no significant improvement. The EGR is new also. I can't find any vacuum leaks either. The problem developed suddenly. I've run all the voltage and impedance diagnostic tests and sensors, and everything checks out according to the Haynes manual. I also do not get and codes on the OBDII code reader. The odd thing is that if I disconnect the connector to the MAF, the engine runs smoothly. Some say this indicates a bad MAF, others say that it's uncertain since it could be another sensor not feeding back to the MAF, Other feedback I've received indicates different brand vehicles have their own peculiarities. At this point, I don't want to replace any more items on "intuition". Any hep appreciated. Thanks! Gerard From neilandcustom at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 07:54:50 2012 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help looking at a car In-Reply-To: <02ba01cd85f7$751c7cf0$5f5576d0$@hky.com> References: <0EED54ACDBCB45ED86800BED4FEC8B28@HomeComputer> <44D111547F3045B2B3E71CF26506967E@Home> <02ba01cd85f7$751c7cf0$5f5576d0$@hky.com> Message-ID: <009101cd86b7$075ec180$161c4480$@com> List, Is there anyone in the Columbus - Mt. Vernon, Ohio area who would be willing to check out a '64 Sprite for a guy from Chicago. He is willing to compensate you for time spent looking at the car. He would like to hear your impressions of the condition as you see it. Please reply to me at neilandcustom at gmail.com I will put him in touch with you. Thanks for any help. Neil Anderson Northern Illinois Sprite project, sort of stalled