From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Thu Sep  1 00:13:35 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:13:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LSHIT
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I can probably replace the railroad lantern.
Mike MacLean
BNSF railroad engineer

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On Aug 31, 2011, at 21:13, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> I think I shall also spend next year's vacation in the garage with the
Midget.
>
> Lost 7/16/11
>
> Hat
> Jacket
> 2 cases Pepsi
> Railroad lantern
> 1987 Jeep Comanche
>
>
>
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Linda Grunthaner
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> To: spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] LSHIT
> Sent: Aug 19, 2011 11:38 AM
>
> List,
> I just got back from my western trip and off to MI,  here is a list of
> lost stuff from my trip. omen that my trips should be in the garage
> working on Sprites ; )
> A my Sprite's need me,
> Lin
>
> Shit lost 8-11-11
>
> Hat
> Ipod touch & Griffin case
> Pigtail wire for headphones
> HTC phone car charger
> HTC dash clamp
> HTC spare wire & charger-FOUND
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From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Sep  1 02:29:22 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:29:22 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<49C4336F-D553-48A0-978A-ECEA88A7DBAD@gmail.com>
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Batteries!!!!! - Batteries????
What is that big (normally black) plastic thing sat next to the firewall and 
full of acid with two metal lumps sticking out of the top for ????
Google MAF sensors and see what the rest of the world is doing in vehicles.

Tim has it just right - he has thought it through and can do it.  He has not 
invented the wheel but has thought of a device that can show twin carb air 
flows in an LBC.  If he does it right, it will show the flow balance not 
just at bonnet up and tickover time but throughout the rev range whilst you 
are driving it.  This will let you know if one carb is failing under hard 
work, it will show you a little more of the picture under your bonnet but, 
most importantly it will show that Tim can and has done it for a LBC and 
no-one else (?) has.

Follow your ideas through Tim and don't forget an O2 sensor can be stuck in 
there as well.
Life can be fun if you let it.

All the best,

Guy R Day



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Seth Jones" <sethamosjones at gmail.com>
To: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carb sysn


> Not sure how this unit worked, but it appears in a factory SU carb manual
> somewhere.  It looks like its a special vacuum gage that can compare two
> vacuums somehow.  a mechanical device such as this would be a much better
> solution I think because it wouldn't require batteries.
>
> BTW Uni-syn syncronizers have been around longer than you might think. 
> Here's
> an ad for them from 1962 as it appeared in car and driver
>
> On Aug 30, 2011 AD, at 7:10 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
>
>> I've been day dreaming about this sync the carbs process and a
>> "modern" way to do it. Seems like a device could be made from two
>> Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensors (one per carb) to sync them. A MAF, as I
>> understand it from the K&N filter site
>> (www.knfilters.com/maf/maftestresults.htm) outputs a voltage directly
>> proportional to the flow of air past the heated wire sensor.
>>
>> All you would have to do is read the voltage from each MAF sensor
>> with something - a voltage meter perhaps or go fancy with inputs
>> through a parallel port or USB port to a computer program that
>> displays the voltage output of each sensor. You would adjust the
>> carbs until each one delivered the same voltage.
>>
>> I don't think it matters what the voltage is, you just want them to
>> be the same. If you adjust at a low RPM then the voltage would be
>> different from an adjustment at a high RPM - that's all - being the
>> same number is the important thing. Seems like this should work just
>> fine and the hardware parts are available at your pick & pull.
>>
>> Ok, now does this seem feasible or not? Of course if you build one of
>> these it sould be known as an "Overkill" because that's what this
>> would be, but it could solve the problem of listening to the hiss if
>> hearing is a problem.
>>
>> Yes, I know about and own a Unisync and the Moss ad today featured
>> another similar device (Synchormeter) but neither are as
>> sophisticated as a duel(ing) MAF system!
>>
>> I'm not talking Megasquirt here although you will find a MAF sensor
>> in a Megasquirt setup.
>>
>> What do you think? Would this work? (I'm not looking for investors!!) LOL
>>
>>
>> Tim Collins
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/
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From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 10:03:54 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:03:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
In-Reply-To: <9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <AE7135B4-7785-4797-A323-39E360FA4706@gmail.com>

Why not just build this thing?
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_I_synchronize_the_carburetors%3F
On Aug 31, 2011 AD, at 6:54 AM, Guy R Day wrote:

> Tim,
> You don't NEED one, you have a length of plastic screen wash pipe and an ear
(or two).  That is all you really need.
> You don't NEED to have more than 2 half inch spanners, but I'll bet you do.
(Just count up how many you have - I stopped when I reached double figures!)
> Stuff all this going back from one carb to another and messing about.
> Get it built, enjoy building it, make it so it will work with other carbs,
play with it.  Have it so you can read it from the drivers seat as you are
driving along.  Make it into the must have tool for all racers (street and
track) so they can see what is happening under the bonnet and why they don't
get maximum power at all engine rev conditions.   Then sell it to Snap-on!
>
> Best of luck - go for it      :-)
>
> Guy R Day
>
> ps if you need a beta tester for the prototype just send one across and if
anyone tells you not to enjoy yourself and don't make it - well ......  LOL
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:10 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
>
>
>> I've been day dreaming about this sync the carbs process and a
>> "modern" way to do it. Seems like a device could be made from two
>> Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensors (one per carb) to sync them. A MAF, as I
>> understand it from the K&N filter site
>> (www.knfilters.com/maf/maftestresults.htm) outputs a voltage directly
>> proportional to the flow of air past the heated wire sensor.
>>
>> All you would have to do is read the voltage from each MAF sensor
>> with something - a voltage meter perhaps or go fancy with inputs
>> through a parallel port or USB port to a computer program that
>> displays the voltage output of each sensor. You would adjust the
>> carbs until each one delivered the same voltage.
>>
>> I don't think it matters what the voltage is, you just want them to
>> be the same. If you adjust at a low RPM then the voltage would be
>> different from an adjustment at a high RPM - that's all - being the
>> same number is the important thing. Seems like this should work just
>> fine and the hardware parts are available at your pick & pull.
>>
>> Ok, now does this seem feasible or not? Of course if you build one of
>> these it sould be known as an "Overkill" because that's what this
>> would be, but it could solve the problem of listening to the hiss if
>> hearing is a problem.
>>
>> Yes, I know about and own a Unisync and the Moss ad today featured
>> another similar device (Synchormeter) but neither are as
>> sophisticated as a duel(ing) MAF system!
>>
>> I'm not talking Megasquirt here although you will find a MAF sensor
>> in a Megasquirt setup.
>>
>> What do you think? Would this work? (I'm not looking for investors!!) LOL
>>
>>
>> Tim Collins
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/
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>>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Sep  1 11:52:31 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:52:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
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References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
	<AE7135B4-7785-4797-A323-39E360FA4706@gmail.com>
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Mikuni's and Keihin's have vacuum ports with a rubber cap.  I don't recall
ever seeing these on our garden variety SU's.

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Seth Jones <sethamosjones at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why not just build this thing?
> http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_I_synchronize_the_carburetors%3F

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Sep  1 12:48:29 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:48:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
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References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
	<AE7135B4-7785-4797-A323-39E360FA4706@gmail.com>
	<71E4651D-4BE9-40B4-AD52-2EFA5C8F3FCA@chartermi.net>
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Hal,

I think the vacuum advance port is just that - ported vacuum, not manifold
vacuum.  The port only opens when the throttle is opened.

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick,
> I have a pair of later HS2s that have vacuum ports on both carbs.  They are
from a later Midget (possibly California spec) and utilize the later spring
loaded needles.  It is possible that one could remove the Y connector and use
the individual ports to balance the carbs, but it would disable the vacuum
advance so would only be useful at or near idle..
> H

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 13:17:41 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:17:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
In-Reply-To: <201108310629178.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
	<201108310629178.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <D934097A-CB0C-43B9-9E9D-DB49430C3A1B@gmail.com>

Peter is that this thing?  I saw this in my February 62 issue of car and
driver

On Aug 31, 2011 AD, at 8:29 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

> In my opinion, the best synching tool is the S.U. kit with the 2 wires.
(there are other tools in the kit as well) I like it as the UniSyn is too
variable... the reading changes as you move it around the face of the carbs,
and it alters the carb's function as it is obstructing the flow.
>
> The wires work at any RPM. They don't affect the running of the carbs.  They
are actually giving you the relative height of the pistons which is directly
affecting the needle height, and mixture. The Unisyn only gives you the
relative butterfly opening which is valid if and only if the needles and
piston weights and springs and piston interference are identical. The wires
compensate for some of that. (not all as we are not actually reading mixture)
>
> There, I've said it.   (oh, and the new Unisyns that I've seen are crap)  I
have a selection of "Unisyns through the ages. From the German made Motometer,
through Edelbrock, and newer.
>
> Peter C
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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep  1 13:30:34 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:30:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
In-Reply-To: <D934097A-CB0C-43B9-9E9D-DB49430C3A1B@gmail.com>
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
	<201108310629178.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Yep.  Or MOSS 366-300    They still have them.
         Peter
==
At 02:17 PM 9/1/2011, Seth Jones wrote:
>Peter is that this thing?  I saw this in my February 62 issue of car 
>and driver
>[]
>
>On Aug 31, 2011 AD, at 8:29 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>
>>In my opinion, the best synching tool is the S.U. kit with the 2 
>>wires. (there are other tools in the kit as well) I like it as the 
>>UniSyn is too variable... the reading changes as you move it around 
>>the face of the carbs, and it alters the carb's function as it is 
>>obstructing the flow.
>>
>>The wires work at any RPM. They don't affect the running of the 
>>carbs.  They are actually giving you the relative height of the 
>>pistons which is directly affecting the needle height, and mixture. 
>>The Unisyn only gives you the relative butterfly opening which is 
>>valid if and only if the needles and piston weights and springs and 
>>piston interference are identical. The wires compensate for some of 
>>that. (not all as we are not actually reading mixture)
>>
>>There, I've said it.   (oh, and the new Unisyns that I've seen are 
>>crap)  I have a selection of "Unisyns through the ages. From the 
>>German made Motometer, through Edelbrock, and newer.
>>
>>Peter C

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From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Sep  1 13:31:15 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:31:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu><9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b><AE7135B4-7785-4797-A323-39E360FA4706@gmail.com><71E4651D-4BE9-40B4-AD52-2EFA5C8F3FCA@chartermi.net><CAM6-RjfbF7BwC+s5sbFoXq8Fd+_AbcQ6Gi2EgZgsy_-xjK+dOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2DE5271-2C89-41F6-83B9-91619A816D4E@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <682AC3A9D7F14DA9905D0ADE55500302@CGI.COMMTECH>

Those two ports are for the PCV that attach to the timing chain cover on the 
front of the engine through the "Y".  They don't effect the timing.  The 
early cars had a single vacuum advance port on the body of one carb and the 
late cars had a vacuum retard port on the intake manifold.  The late carbs 
had the two PCV ports but no vacuum advance port on the crab body (72-74 I 
think).  Been there done that and had it wrong several times before I 
learned...

Mark
Nashville


> Hal,
>
> I think the vacuum advance port is just that - ported vacuum, not manifold
> vacuum.  The port only opens when the throttle is opened.
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Hal Faulkner >
>> Rick,
>> I have a pair of later HS2s that have vacuum ports on both carbs.  They 
>> are
> from a later Midget (possibly California spec) and utilize the later 
> spring
> loaded needles.  It is possible that one could remove the Y connector and 
> use
> the individual ports to balance the carbs, but it would disable the vacuum
> advance so would only be useful at or near idle..
>> H

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Sep  1 14:24:24 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 16:24:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
In-Reply-To: <682AC3A9D7F14DA9905D0ADE55500302@CGI.COMMTECH>
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
	<AE7135B4-7785-4797-A323-39E360FA4706@gmail.com>
	<71E4651D-4BE9-40B4-AD52-2EFA5C8F3FCA@chartermi.net>
	<CAM6-RjfbF7BwC+s5sbFoXq8Fd+_AbcQ6Gi2EgZgsy_-xjK+dOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2DE5271-2C89-41F6-83B9-91619A816D4E@chartermi.net>
	<682AC3A9D7F14DA9905D0ADE55500302@CGI.COMMTECH>
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PCV ports should work.  But..........

Another wrench in the monkey works - what effect does the manifold crossover
have when trying to measure vacuum on the manifold side of the carbs?  I think
Tim's idea is best - measure airflow going into the carbs.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 1, 2011, at 3:31 PM, "Mark Endicott" <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:

> Those two ports are for the PCV that attach to the timing chain cover on the
front of the engine through the "Y".  They don't effect the timing.  The early
cars had a single vacuum advance port on the body of one carb and the late
cars had a vacuum retard port on the intake manifold.  The late carbs had the
two PCV ports but no vacuum advance port on the crab body (72-74 I think).
Been there done that and had it wrong several times before I learned...
>
> Mark
> Nashville

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 15:03:06 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 16:03:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
In-Reply-To: <a0fjo3$cu4p4r@email.mtu.edu>
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
	<201108310629178.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<a0fjo3$cu4p4r@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <5F1E9AED-E5FF-4D61-A5BC-24341F3A0EFF@gmail.com>

If it shows absolutely no airflow from one carb to the other, then they are
balanced.
On Aug 31, 2011 AD, at 3:33 PM, Tim Collins wrote:

> At 09:29 AM 8/31/2011, PPP wrote:
>> In my opinion, the best synching tool is the S.U. kit with the 2 wires.
>
> I should have mentioned that I have the sticks (wires) too. Think I bought
them from PPP.
>
> The motorcycle type manometer balancing devices should work too. Would need
port taps properly placed for them to work with SU's.
>
> A MAF between the carbs would only show that air is flowing, but how would
that tell if they are balanced?
>
> I like Guy's reasoning on this subject - GO FOR IT - he says! Ya, that's the
spirit!
>
> Jeff, too much time day dreaming?? Is that possible?? LOL
>
> Dean, thanks for the circuits. I'll study them. I'm a civil engineer so
wires are pipes and transistors are valves, etc - right?
>
>
>
> Tim Collins
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From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 15:04:00 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 16:04:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
In-Reply-To: <7121E1AA-A968-4540-8DE1-21EC86B03AE7@chartermi.net>
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
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	<AE7135B4-7785-4797-A323-39E360FA4706@gmail.com>
	<71E4651D-4BE9-40B4-AD52-2EFA5C8F3FCA@chartermi.net>
	<CAM6-RjfbF7BwC+s5sbFoXq8Fd+_AbcQ6Gi2EgZgsy_-xjK+dOg@mail.gmail.com>
	<F2DE5271-2C89-41F6-83B9-91619A816D4E@chartermi.net>
	<682AC3A9D7F14DA9905D0ADE55500302@CGI.COMMTECH>
	<7121E1AA-A968-4540-8DE1-21EC86B03AE7@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <6E8F5FBB-70D5-45B0-A5D7-26545F8E1A9D@gmail.com>

Just posted an article listing a bunch of methods and devices for this.

http://www.spridgetguru.com/TA0053.html

On Sep 1, 2011 AD, at 3:24 PM, Rick Fisk wrote:

> PCV ports should work.  But..........
>
> Another wrench in the monkey works - what effect does the manifold
crossover
> have when trying to measure vacuum on the manifold side of the carbs?  I
think
> Tim's idea is best - measure airflow going into the carbs.
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 3:31 PM, "Mark Endicott" <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>
>> Those two ports are for the PCV that attach to the timing chain cover on
the
> front of the engine through the "Y".  They don't effect the timing.  The
early
> cars had a single vacuum advance port on the body of one carb and the late
> cars had a vacuum retard port on the intake manifold.  The late carbs had
the
> two PCV ports but no vacuum advance port on the crab body (72-74 I think).
> Been there done that and had it wrong several times before I learned...
>>
>> Mark
>> Nashville
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep  1 15:35:15 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:35:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC but USPS question
Message-ID: <E72E9A21F5084EF19439EA21018A70E7@spider>

Asking the group here for any help they can offer.

I sold an item on eBay and mailed it from Corvallis Oregon on Aug. 5 First
Class with a USPS tracking number.

Deliver attempt has not been made to Zip 19148-2923

I am trying to get our Corvallis postal person to intercept this 6" by 9"
envelope the next time in goes through Salem, Oregon; there is not a lot of
interest there.

Here is the tracking number's trail provided by the USPS. Most recent entry
at top.

...bill in corvallis

  

   (back to Phila. to circle and circle??)

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 31, 2011, 9:03 pm, PHILA., PA 19176 

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 27, 2011, 4:56 am, PHILA., PA 19176

 

   (back to Salem Oregon in 7 days?)

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 19, 2011, 7:17 pm, SALEM, OR 97301

 

   (went back and forth thru Phila. Sort Facility for 5 days)

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 12, 2011, 12:05 pm, PHILA., PA 19176 

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 10, 2011, 1:03 am, PHILA., PA 19176 

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 09, 2011, 6:02 pm, PHILA., PA 19176 

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 08, 2011, 11:29 pm, PHILA., PA 19176 

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 08, 2011, 12:52 am, PHILA., PA 19116 

 

Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 06, 2011, 12:06 am, PORTLAND, OR 97218

 

 Electronic Shipping Info Received, Aug. 04, 2011 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep  1 16:09:19 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:09:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
Message-ID: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>

I have a friend who is selling an early Mustang.  He got a message from
overseas asking for the final price and his email address used for his PayPal
account so that he can pay him.

The fishy things are that he is more interested in this email address than
settling on a final price; he claims to be from England, yet his command of
the language is atrocious; he is talking of having his own shipping agent
arrange to come pick it up; and he is offering to pay the PayPal fees for the
seller.  I think this smells funny, but what harm can come from giving him the
email address?  Hell, itbs already on the emails they have exchanged.

Is money deposited in your PayPal acct protected from scam artists at all?
Ibve had lots of purchases arranged thru PayPal, but never sold anything.

Opinions?


LAD

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Sep  1 16:16:07 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 23:16:07 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
References: <a0fks2$d5j0l3@email.mtu.edu>
	<9D00E860F18B4E2BB5237B9B9177A5EA@user8634b3d69b>
	<AE7135B4-7785-4797-A323-39E360FA4706@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E3C9B8720F75493D925126A3ADB1CE0D@user8634b3d69b>

Cause you can't sell it to Snap-On.  LOL.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Seth Jones" <sethamosjones at gmail.com>
To: "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carb sysn


Why not just build this thing?
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_I_synchronize_the_carburetors%3F
On Aug 31, 2011 AD, at 6:54 AM, Guy R Day wrote:

> Tim,
> You don't NEED one, you have a length of plastic screen wash pipe and an 
> ear (or two).  That is all you really need.
> You don't NEED to have more than 2 half inch spanners, but I'll bet you 
> do. (Just count up how many you have - I stopped when I reached double 
> figures!)
> Stuff all this going back from one carb to another and messing about.
> Get it built, enjoy building it, make it so it will work with other carbs, 
> play with it.  Have it so you can read it from the drivers seat as you are 
> driving along.  Make it into the must have tool for all racers (street and 
> track) so they can see what is happening under the bonnet and why they 
> don't get maximum power at all engine rev conditions.   Then sell it to 
> Snap-on!
>
> Best of luck - go for it      :-)
>
> Guy R Day
>
> ps if you need a beta tester for the prototype just send one across and if 
> anyone tells you not to enjoy yourself and don't make it - well ...... 
> LOL
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:10 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Carb sysn
>
>
>> I've been day dreaming about this sync the carbs process and a
>> "modern" way to do it. Seems like a device could be made from two
>> Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensors (one per carb) to sync them. A MAF, as I
>> understand it from the K&N filter site
>> (www.knfilters.com/maf/maftestresults.htm) outputs a voltage directly
>> proportional to the flow of air past the heated wire sensor.
>>
>> All you would have to do is read the voltage from each MAF sensor
>> with something - a voltage meter perhaps or go fancy with inputs
>> through a parallel port or USB port to a computer program that
>> displays the voltage output of each sensor. You would adjust the
>> carbs until each one delivered the same voltage.
>>
>> I don't think it matters what the voltage is, you just want them to
>> be the same. If you adjust at a low RPM then the voltage would be
>> different from an adjustment at a high RPM - that's all - being the
>> same number is the important thing. Seems like this should work just
>> fine and the hardware parts are available at your pick & pull.
>>
>> Ok, now does this seem feasible or not? Of course if you build one of
>> these it sould be known as an "Overkill" because that's what this
>> would be, but it could solve the problem of listening to the hiss if
>> hearing is a problem.
>>
>> Yes, I know about and own a Unisync and the Moss ad today featured
>> another similar device (Synchormeter) but neither are as
>> sophisticated as a duel(ing) MAF system!
>>
>> I'm not talking Megasquirt here although you will find a MAF sensor
>> in a Megasquirt setup.
>>
>> What do you think? Would this work? (I'm not looking for investors!!) LOL
>>
>>
>> Tim Collins
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/
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From kmappley at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 16:22:29 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:22:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  NMC: Tillamook Cheese and rad VW bus
Message-ID: <CANv6dsBMJ7RgvmZWWeQwozejZEkzjU3OKdRd6uB9EFu_81_BDg@mail.gmail.com>

Rick: Experts claim that the reason folks nowadays have so much trouble with
allergie's is that they don't spend enough time in cowshit when there
young!! ;-))

Kurt.

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Thu Sep  1 16:47:54 2011
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:47:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
In-Reply-To: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
References: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <A3AD8BE6-96D8-4237-941B-C09E6F6DDBEE@comcast.net>

Hi Larry,

	One huge red flag for me in your email was reading that the buyer is wanting
to have his own shipping agent arrange everything as well as offering to pay
the PayPal fees.  Usually those are red flags that this is a scam.  I would be
concerned about him asking for the email address especially since it is
already been given within the emails that have been exchanged with the two of
them.  Tell him good luck and keep us posted on what happens.

IMHO this is a scam.


Kristi & Lambert
'74 RWA Midget
'77 RB Midget



On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> I have a friend who is selling an early Mustang.  He got a message from
> overseas asking for the final price and his email address used for his
PayPal
> account so that he can pay him.
>
> The fishy things are that he is more interested in this email address than
> settling on a final price; he claims to be from England, yet his command of
> the language is atrocious; he is talking of having his own shipping agent
> arrange to come pick it up; and he is offering to pay the PayPal fees for
the
> seller.  I think this smells funny, but what harm can come from giving him
the
> email address?  Hell, itbs already on the emails they have exchanged.
>
> Is money deposited in your PayPal acct protected from scam artists at all?
> Ibve had lots of purchases arranged thru PayPal, but never sold anything.
>
> Opinions?
>
>
> LAD
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From clarici at verizon.net  Thu Sep  1 16:50:57 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:50:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
In-Reply-To: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
References: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <16459BA2-3E17-43A3-9E0A-8C6D43EEA85E@verizon.net>

It's a scam.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:09 PM, "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I have a friend who is selling an early Mustang.  He got a message from
> overseas asking for the final price and his email address used for his
PayPal
> account so that he can pay him.
>
> The fishy things are that he is more interested in this email address than
> settling on a final price; he claims to be from England, yet his command of
> the language is atrocious; he is talking of having his own shipping agent
> arrange to come pick it up; and he is offering to pay the PayPal fees for
the
> seller.  I think this smells funny, but what harm can come from giving him
the
> email address?  Hell, itbs already on the emails they have exchanged.
>
> Is money deposited in your PayPal acct protected from scam artists at all?
> Ibve had lots of purchases arranged thru PayPal, but never sold anything.
>
> Opinions?
>
>
> LAD
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep  1 17:21:21 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:21:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
In-Reply-To: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
References: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <26E231DF0A2E446BBC04B89B44F5D58C@HomePC>

Thanks, all.  I thought it stunk, I just wasn't aware of the mechanics of 
the fraud.

Great list!


LAD



-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Daniels
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:09 PM
To: Spridgets List
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?

I have a friend who is selling an early Mustang.  He got a message from
overseas asking for the final price and his email address used for his 
PayPal
account so that he can pay him.

The fishy things are that he is more interested in this email address than
settling on a final price; he claims to be from England, yet his command of
the language is atrocious; he is talking of having his own shipping agent
arrange to come pick it up; and he is offering to pay the PayPal fees for 
the
seller.  I think this smells funny, but what harm can come from giving him 
the
email address?  Hell, itbs already on the emails they have exchanged.

Is money deposited in your PayPal acct protected from scam artists at all?
Ibve had lots of purchases arranged thru PayPal, but never sold anything.

Opinions?


LAD
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From lists at dinospider.com  Thu Sep  1 17:28:51 2011
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:28:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
In-Reply-To: <A3AD8BE6-96D8-4237-941B-C09E6F6DDBEE@comcast.net>
References: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
	<A3AD8BE6-96D8-4237-941B-C09E6F6DDBEE@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4E601533.5030305@dinospider.com>

  I agree, SCAM

  Even though I have no idea what harm can come from giving out the 
email, I avoid it.

     mike

On 09/01/2011 03:47 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> 	One huge red flag for me in your email was reading that the buyer is wanting
> to have his own shipping agent arrange everything as well as offering to pay
> the PayPal fees.  Usually those are red flags that this is a scam.  I would be
> concerned about him asking for the email address especially since it is
> already been given within the emails that have been exchanged with the two of
> them.  Tell him good luck and keep us posted on what happens.
>
> IMHO this is a scam.
>
>
> Kristi&  Lambert
> '74 RWA Midget
> '77 RB Midget
>
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:
>
>    
>> I have a friend who is selling an early Mustang.  He got a message from
>> overseas asking for the final price and his email address used for his
>>      
> PayPal
>    
>> account so that he can pay him.
>>
>> The fishy things are that he is more interested in this email address than
>> settling on a final price; he claims to be from England, yet his command of
>> the language is atrocious; he is talking of having his own shipping agent
>> arrange to come pick it up; and he is offering to pay the PayPal fees for
>>      
> the
>    
>> seller.  I think this smells funny, but what harm can come from giving him
>>      
> the
>    
>> email address?  Hell, itbs already on the emails they have exchanged.
>>
>> Is money deposited in your PayPal acct protected from scam artists at all?
>> Ibve had lots of purchases arranged thru PayPal, but never sold anything.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>>
>> LAD
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 18:20:43 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:20:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Re NMC: Tillamook Cheese and rad VW bus
Message-ID: <CABWjhc+O4D6tgTdKV+r+XJ4wbSg68kC1tnPNmA-rNgVjRvAVhg@mail.gmail.com>

Kurt, coming from you I'd take that and believe it at face value.

Fortunately I spent plenty of time in my youth covered in the stuff.
When you are around it all the time you can't smell it any more, because the
receptors in your nose are filled.

Once I fell into the "liquid" holding tank, the farmer had caught the grate
with his tractor and didn't put the grate back over the opening.
Also he had let it accumulate to over a foot deep over the tank so I had no
idea the hole was there and uncovered.
Walking out to chase a cow in for milking and down I went.
Those who know are aware that there is a large blade at the bottom of these
things that turns to keep the stuff from settling.
Think of it as a giant food processor, and I was heading for the bottom.
I managed to catch the lip of the hole with a hand, then pull myself back up
out.
Something I'll never forget. I was probably 12 or 13 at the time.

Rick (mmm... green) Bastedo


From: Kurt Appley <kmappley at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:22:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re NMC: Tillamook Cheese and rad VW bus

Rick: Experts claim that the reason folks nowadays have so much trouble with
allergie's is that they don't spend enough time in cowshit when there
young!! ;-))

Kurt.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 19:25:44 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:25:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Re NMC: Tillamook Cheese and rad VW bus
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhc+O4D6tgTdKV+r+XJ4wbSg68kC1tnPNmA-rNgVjRvAVhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhc+O4D6tgTdKV+r+XJ4wbSg68kC1tnPNmA-rNgVjRvAVhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAEAkHMiTFM363270DehKFKaCTU8PRvDddbAxRm-X2dMTw@mail.gmail.com>

Here's my (farm) story and I'm stickin' to it....

While getting ready, I decided to ride my '64 Triumph Bonneville to work.
 Beautiful Spring days here in Southern Oregon.

As I came around a right-hand corner I was drenched by 'liquid (cow
shit) fertilizer', which most farmers use on their fields.

Business clothes, OPEN FACED helmet, need I say more?!?

Turned around, rode back to the house.  Hosed off the bike, stripped down to
my nothings and hosed myself off as well.  Showered and back to work I went.
 Think I took my wifes' Midget if I remember correctly.

>From that day forward, I paid attention before I rounded that corner.

Thanks for listening.

Herb

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep  1 20:19:11 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:19:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re NMC: Tillamook Cheese and rad VW bus
In-Reply-To: <CAEFJhAEAkHMiTFM363270DehKFKaCTU8PRvDddbAxRm-X2dMTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhc+O4D6tgTdKV+r+XJ4wbSg68kC1tnPNmA-rNgVjRvAVhg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFJhAEAkHMiTFM363270DehKFKaCTU8PRvDddbAxRm-X2dMTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2922FBA08BB44B68AAE80981DC9EF9A6@HomePC>

Herb, was the farmer still laughing when you passed the second time?


-----Original Message----- 
From: WFO Herb
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 8:25 PM
To: rbastedo at gmail.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re NMC: Tillamook Cheese and rad VW bus

Here's my (farm) story and I'm stickin' to it....

While getting ready, I decided to ride my '64 Triumph Bonneville to work.
Beautiful Spring days here in Southern Oregon.

As I came around a right-hand corner I was drenched by 'liquid (cow
shit) fertilizer', which most farmers use on their fields.

Business clothes, OPEN FACED helmet, need I say more?!?

Turned around, rode back to the house.  Hosed off the bike, stripped down to
my nothings and hosed myself off as well.  Showered and back to work I went.
Think I took my wifes' Midget if I remember correctly.

>From that day forward, I paid attention before I rounded that corner.

Thanks for listening.

Herb
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep  1 20:34:36 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:34:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC but USPS question
In-Reply-To: <E72E9A21F5084EF19439EA21018A70E7@spider>
References: <E72E9A21F5084EF19439EA21018A70E7@spider>
Message-ID: <6D85AF8D-D516-4ABF-A412-833673B72988@comcast.net>

Call the postal inspector and ask what's going on.  hmm.. they think that your
"7" is a "4".. and they cant find a 191"7" 8 all that they can find is a 191
"7" 6


Lester


On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:35 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
wrote:

> Asking the group here for any help they can offer.
>
> I sold an item on eBay and mailed it from Corvallis Oregon on Aug. 5 First
> Class with a USPS tracking number.
>
> Deliver attempt has not been made to Zip 19148-2923
>
> I am trying to get our Corvallis postal person to intercept this 6" by 9"
> envelope the next time in goes through Salem, Oregon; there is not a lot of
> interest there.
>
> Here is the tracking number's trail provided by the USPS. Most recent entry
> at top.
>
> ...bill in corvallis
>
>
>
>   (back to Phila. to circle and circle??)
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 31, 2011, 9:03 pm, PHILA., PA 19176
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 27, 2011, 4:56 am, PHILA., PA 19176
>
>
>
>   (back to Salem Oregon in 7 days?)
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 19, 2011, 7:17 pm, SALEM, OR 97301
>
>
>
>   (went back and forth thru Phila. Sort Facility for 5 days)
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 12, 2011, 12:05 pm, PHILA., PA 19176
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 10, 2011, 1:03 am, PHILA., PA 19176
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 09, 2011, 6:02 pm, PHILA., PA 19176
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 08, 2011, 11:29 pm, PHILA., PA 19176
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 08, 2011, 12:52 am, PHILA., PA 19116
>
>
>
> Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 06, 2011, 12:06 am, PORTLAND, OR
97218
>
>
>
> Electronic Shipping Info Received, Aug. 04, 2011
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep  1 20:47:55 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 02:47:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] LSHIT
In-Reply-To: <E9A62B1F-3192-4644-8938-C8641C4354E8@att.net>
Message-ID: <634089853.1325614.1314931675820.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

I can just hear the talk if I showed up at work with a green lantern instead of a yellow one.

Kate



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike MacLean" <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:13:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LSHIT

I can probably replace the railroad lantern.
Mike MacLean
BNSF railroad engineer

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2011, at 21:13, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> I think I shall also spend next year's vacation in the garage with the Midget.
> 
> Lost 7/16/11
> 
> Hat
> Jacket
> 2 cases Pepsi
> Railroad lantern
> 1987 Jeep Comanche
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Linda Grunthaner
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] LSHIT
> Sent: Aug 19, 2011 11:38 AM
> 
> List,
> I just got back from my western trip and off to MI,  here is a list of
> lost stuff from my trip. omen that my trips should be in the garage
> working on Sprites ; )
> A my Sprite's need me,
> Lin
> 
> Shit lost 8-11-11
> 
> Hat
> Ipod touch & Griffin case
> Pigtail wire for headphones
> HTC phone car charger
> HTC dash clamp
> HTC spare wire & charger-FOUND
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep  1 21:28:43 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:28:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] LSHIT
In-Reply-To: <634089853.1325614.1314931675820.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <491428371.1073216.1314934123290.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

"with a green lantern"

He's my Hero <g>

Couldn't resist the impulse!  sri!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From kmappley at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 21:59:56 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:59:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Engine dilemma.
Message-ID: <CANv6dsDKbzjQdymz3s8S9DemiuFHNicUYgaVGh9ev99U3j8SrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone on the list have an interest in the 948 and 1500 engine's I mentioned
earlier. If I put them on flea-bay I would probably have to crate and ship
them so that is open as well.

Kurt.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 22:26:56 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:26:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Re NMC: Tillamook Cheese and rad VW bus
In-Reply-To: <2922FBA08BB44B68AAE80981DC9EF9A6@HomePC>
References: <CABWjhc+O4D6tgTdKV+r+XJ4wbSg68kC1tnPNmA-rNgVjRvAVhg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFJhAEAkHMiTFM363270DehKFKaCTU8PRvDddbAxRm-X2dMTw@mail.gmail.com>
	<2922FBA08BB44B68AAE80981DC9EF9A6@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAE+TK7ssKq99X20u1TF-3A9xTHhBP=-ypz-yJcQG2a3Wg@mail.gmail.com>

Didn't give him the chance.  I darn near stopped before entering the corner.

Do me once....

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Herb, was the farmer still laughing when you passed the second time?

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 08:30:16 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:30:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC but USPS question
In-Reply-To: <6D85AF8D-D516-4ABF-A412-833673B72988@comcast.net>
References: <E72E9A21F5084EF19439EA21018A70E7@spider>
	<6D85AF8D-D516-4ABF-A412-833673B72988@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OtWS_PXi8bKh+mjKuDFfdhY+oyN_4r8ZHDuQnrM7cByXA@mail.gmail.com>

If the package is bouncing around the Lindberg Ave postal facility in
Philly, it will be there a while.  You may eventually get it back.

I would start a claim on it, especially if it was insured.  That may get
them moving.

My company has lost a lot of stuff that gets forwarded there.  To paraphrase
Lily Tomlin, "We don't care...we're the Postal Service."

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Call the postal inspector and ask what's going on.  hmm.. they think that
> your
> "7" is a "4".. and they cant find a 191"7" 8 all that they can find is a
> 191
> "7" 6
>
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:35 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> <
> corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Asking the group here for any help they can offer.
> >
> > I sold an item on eBay and mailed it from Corvallis Oregon on Aug. 5
> First
> > Class with a USPS tracking number.
> >
> > Deliver attempt has not been made to Zip 19148-2923
> >
> > I am trying to get our Corvallis postal person to intercept this 6" by 9"
> > envelope the next time in goes through Salem, Oregon; there is not a lot
> of
> > interest there.
> >
> > Here is the tracking number's trail provided by the USPS. Most recent
> entry
> > at top.
> >
> > ...bill in corvallis
> >
> >
> >
> >   (back to Phila. to circle and circle??)
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 31, 2011, 9:03 pm, PHILA., PA 19176
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 27, 2011, 4:56 am, PHILA., PA 19176
> >
> >
> >
> >   (back to Salem Oregon in 7 days?)
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 19, 2011, 7:17 pm, SALEM, OR 97301
> >
> >
> >
> >   (went back and forth thru Phila. Sort Facility for 5 days)
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 12, 2011, 12:05 pm, PHILA., PA
> 19176
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 10, 2011, 1:03 am, PHILA., PA 19176
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 09, 2011, 6:02 pm, PHILA., PA 19176
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 08, 2011, 11:29 pm, PHILA., PA
> 19176
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 08, 2011, 12:52 am, PHILA., PA
> 19116
> >
> >
> >
> > Processed through Sort Facility, Aug. 06, 2011, 12:06 am, PORTLAND, OR
> 97218
> >
> >
> >
> > Electronic Shipping Info Received, Aug. 04, 2011
> > _______________________________________________

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 08:34:17 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:34:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
In-Reply-To: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
References: <F9DD413478EE407B8C9A9E7BB4B0693F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5Ot+C3VE3h_jgizAUahLZF2=_DBaJbU-bw=D_utLA6Ycgg@mail.gmail.com>

This is a classic scam.  I have seen it several times, usually with car
pruchases.

Your friend should report it to PayPal as well as his e-mail server.
Forward the message, with the headers showing, to both.

Do not reply to them.  They seem to have ways to suck info out of
practically nothing, and then your PayPal account is empty.

Or as Larry M. would say, buy a Mac and you will no longer have these
problems.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I have a friend who is selling an early Mustang.  He got a message from
> overseas asking for the final price and his email address used for his
> PayPal
> account so that he can pay him.
>
> The fishy things are that he is more interested in this email address than
> settling on a final price; he claims to be from England, yet his command of
> the language is atrocious; he is talking of having his own shipping agent
> arrange to come pick it up; and he is offering to pay the PayPal fees for
> the
> seller.  I think this smells funny, but what harm can come from giving him
> the
> email address?  Hell, itb s already on the emails they have exchanged.
>
> Is money deposited in your PayPal acct protected from scam artists at all?
> Ib ve had lots of purchases arranged thru PayPal, but never sold anything.
>
> Opinions?
>
>
> LAD
> _______________________________________________

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 08:38:23 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:38:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Engine dilemma.
In-Reply-To: <CANv6dsDKbzjQdymz3s8S9DemiuFHNicUYgaVGh9ev99U3j8SrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANv6dsDKbzjQdymz3s8S9DemiuFHNicUYgaVGh9ev99U3j8SrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OvZ4tv1vMM-epCw2hay2=9ZTqm0uh0TMx_mdinCdc7iTg@mail.gmail.com>

You might want to list them on Craigs List for several areas in your
vicinity.  For pick up only.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Kurt Appley <kmappley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone on the list have an interest in the 948 and 1500 engine's I
> mentioned
> earlier. If I put them on flea-bay I would probably have to crate and ship
> them so that is open as well.
>
> Kurt.
> _______________________________________________

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Sep  2 09:30:15 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:30:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5Ot+C3VE3h_jgizAUahLZF2=_DBaJbU-bw=D_utLA6Ycgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <400706843.1078447.1314977415431.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

"Does not compute!"
Data in an IPV4 or IPV6 TCP/UDP data stream is independant of choice of OS or hardware.  

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Allen Hefner" <lbc77mg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Or as Larry M. would say, buy a Mac and you will no longer have these 
> problems.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Sep  2 09:40:15 2011
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:40:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford
In-Reply-To: <1824360747.867772.1314976695891.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <961481476.808610.1314978015066.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Check the craigslist link then the pics of what he has.

Ryan



----- Forwarded Message -----


From: bassmentbrad at comcast.net
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 11:18:15 AM
Subject: Re: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale


Parts pictures, Lucas amp & Smith gauges 3 speedos, rpm,oil/water, fuel, SU
carbs-Midget/Sprite 1-1/4" valve covers 1960's era.
Not sure of exact years. intake and exhaust manifold/heat shields.
Thanks, BB

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: sale-pfbsa-2563652714 at craigslist.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:47:44 PM
Subject: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html





What do you have in the way of Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite/MG Midget SU carbs
& parts?

Any ideas as to what years?

Ryan Kubanoff

Philly MG club Member


B 

This message was remailed to you via: sale-pfbsa-2563652714 at craigslist.org
If this email is a scam or spam please flag it now:
http://www.craigslist.org/flag/?flagCode=31&smtpid=20110901004744_HRDATTU4BGO
IxWRHG2Lqg

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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Fri Sep  2 09:42:00 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:42:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; Possible PayPal Scam?
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5Ot+C3VE3h_jgizAUahLZF2=_DBaJbU-bw=D_utLA6Ycgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110902154200.NRRC4.10162.root@cdptpa-web01-z02>

To me it seems that it is pretty obviously a scam, but if I understood the original question it was more a question of how could it be harmful to send the scammer the email address associated with the paypal account?  I've thought about it and I can't figure it out either.  If a person could extract money from paypal just by knowing an account name then they could go on ebay and get lots of account names, and assume that many of them had paypal accounts associated with their email address.

If you buy a Mac then you are contributing to the biggest scam organization in the world.


> This is a classic scam.  I have seen it several times, usually with car
> purchases.
> 
> Your friend should report it to PayPal as well as his e-mail server.
> Forward the message, with the headers showing, to both.
> 
> Do not reply to them.  They seem to have ways to suck info out of
> practically nothing, and then your PayPal account is empty.
> 
> Or as Larry M. would say, buy a Mac and you will no longer have these
> problems.

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri Sep  2 10:01:49 2011
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:01:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: automotive A/C trivia
In-Reply-To: <0A698980B554480D87AB09BC238D32DC@krystinePC>
Message-ID: <1502080841.74661.1314979309491.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Since it's been so hot, a little history lesson to cool you off.B B B  8^)

--David C.
"Look to this day, for it is life, the very life of life. In its brief course
lie all the realities and verities of existence. The bliss of growth, the
splendor of action, the glory of power. And yesterday is but a dream, and
tomorrow is only a vision. But today - well lived - makes every yesterday a
dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well, therefore,
to this day. ~ Sanskrit proverb ~

----- Forwarded Message -----
B 
















Here's a little factoid for automotive buffs or just to dazzle your friends.

The four Goldberg brothers, Lowell, Norman, Hiram, and Max, invented and
developed the first automobile air-conditioner. On July 17, 1946, the
temperature in Detroit was 97 degrees.

The four brothers walked into old man Henry Ford's office and sweet-talked his
secretary into telling him that four gentlemen were there with the most
exciting innovation in the auto industry since the electric starter.

Henry was curious and invited them into his office.

They refused and instead asked that he come out to the parking lot to their
car.

They persuaded him to get into the car, which was about 130 degrees, turned on
the air conditioner, and cooled the car immediately. The old man got very
excited and invited them back to the office, where he offered them $3 million
for the patent. The brothers refused, saying they would settle for $2 million,
but they wanted the recognition by having a label, 'The Goldberg Air
Conditioner,' on the dashboard of each car in which it was installed.

Now old man Ford was more than just a little anti-Semitic, and there was no
way he was going to put the Goldberg's name on two million Fords. They haggled
back and forth for about two hours and finally agreed on $4 million and that
just their first names would be shown.

And so to this day, all Ford air conditioners show - Lo, Norm, Hi, and Max -
on the controls.

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 10:36:16 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:36:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford
In-Reply-To: <961481476.808610.1314978015066.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1824360747.867772.1314976695891.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<961481476.808610.1314978015066.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5Otn4BX2Fq+4c1+ZPEY25eUiiBM_UJyWziV3Ba469CW-zw@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't see the craigslist link in the forwarded post soe here it is.

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/gms/2563652714.html

He has a '67 MGB-GT, and a list of parts for Spridgets.  My daughter lives
in Royersford and I am about 20 minutes away.  I sure wish I had a garage!

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:40 AM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> Check the craigslist link then the pics of what he has.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>
>
> From: bassmentbrad at comcast.net
> To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 11:18:15 AM
> Subject: Re: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale
>
>
> Parts pictures, Lucas amp & Smith gauges 3 speedos, rpm,oil/water, fuel, SU
> carbs-Midget/Sprite 1-1/4" valve covers 1960's era.
> Not sure of exact years. intake and exhaust manifold/heat shields.
> Thanks, BB
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
> To: sale-pfbsa-2563652714 at craigslist.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:47:44 PM
> Subject: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale
>
> ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
>
>
>
>
>
> What do you have in the way of Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite/MG Midget SU
> carbs
> & parts?
>
> Any ideas as to what years?
>
> Ryan Kubanoff
>
> Philly MG club Member
>
>
> B
>
> This message was remailed to you via: sale-pfbsa-2563652714 at craigslist.org
> If this email is a scam or spam please flag it now:
>
> http://www.craigslist.org/flag/?flagCode=31&smtpid=20110901004744_HRDATTU4BGO
> IxWRHG2Lqg
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Sep  2 22:10:33 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 00:10:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5Otn4BX2Fq+4c1+ZPEY25eUiiBM_UJyWziV3Ba469CW-zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1824360747.867772.1314976695891.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><961481476.808610.1314978015066.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<CAMEj5Otn4BX2Fq+4c1+ZPEY25eUiiBM_UJyWziV3Ba469CW-zw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D731B48C91D94F56BB57DDCCDB43C825@blackbox2>

Hmmm...  I wonder who (in the general vicinity) will get there first.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Hefner
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 12:36 PM
To: Spridgets list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford

I didn't see the craigslist link in the forwarded post soe here it is.

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/gms/2563652714.html

He has a '67 MGB-GT, and a list of parts for Spridgets.  My daughter lives
in Royersford and I am about 20 minutes away.  I sure wish I had a garage!

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 23:22:51 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 00:22:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford
In-Reply-To: <D731B48C91D94F56BB57DDCCDB43C825@blackbox2>
References: <1824360747.867772.1314976695891.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<961481476.808610.1314978015066.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<CAMEj5Otn4BX2Fq+4c1+ZPEY25eUiiBM_UJyWziV3Ba469CW-zw@mail.gmail.com>
	<D731B48C91D94F56BB57DDCCDB43C825@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx79SF-kuU_CkCHrAfLZUh8wT7tAroO6-_Cxs_L1vwJw=sA@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if anything will be reasonably priced.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hmmm...  I wonder who (in the general vicinity) will get there first.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 23:26:54 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 00:26:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5Otn4BX2Fq+4c1+ZPEY25eUiiBM_UJyWziV3Ba469CW-zw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1824360747.867772.1314976695891.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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He's probably asking $10k for the MGB but would let you steal it from
him for $8k.  The ad reads to me like there won't be any real bargains
at that sale.
OTOH, you may find something good and decently priced.

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 05:46:08 2011
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuildable 1275 Wanted
Message-ID: <1315050368.12575.YahooMailNeo@web125714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

My brother was just given a '69 Midget without an engine.  He lives west of
Chicago and I live in mid-Michigan.  Anyone close by either of us have a
rebuildable 1275 they want to part with?  Doug    ....o~'o

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  3 07:42:36 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:42:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 19k mi 65 Midget
Message-ID: <1315057356.90836.YahooMailClassic@web161208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

This looks like a beauty with original paint featured on BaT: 
http://bringatrailer.com/2011/09/02/original-paint-19k-mile-1965-mg-midget/

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 09:10:15 2011
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:10:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] solar battery charger
Message-ID: <CANx9iMP6iJ8NrjNNZhbLEYPxrQk6Ax4+K_V0Qvg8rUhDude=ag@mail.gmail.com>

Seeking the wisdom - or at least experience - of the list.  ;-)

Have any of you tried using a solar battery charger just to maintain
the battery on rarely driven cars or through the winter hibernation?
I'm thinking this might be a better option than having a wall wart
transformer plugged in constantly and the required extension cable
always under foot.

There's not a lot of sunlight in my garage but certainly enough for my
solar calculator so I'm guessing it'd be sufficient to trickle charge
a battery.

Any opinions/advice on this subject?

From pchast at francomm.com  Sat Sep  3 09:47:38 2011
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:47:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] solar battery charger
In-Reply-To: <CANx9iMP6iJ8NrjNNZhbLEYPxrQk6Ax4+K_V0Qvg8rUhDude=ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANx9iMP6iJ8NrjNNZhbLEYPxrQk6Ax4+K_V0Qvg8rUhDude=ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.v08otoc1sjevdj@pete200>

I've always wondered if there was a 'trickle' charge that could be left
without killing a battery! Don't you need a more sophisticated unit with
a charge controller? Cheep enough now for a small solar unit...

Pete
Athens, NY


On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:10:15 -0400, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Seeking the wisdom - or at least experience - of the list.  ;-)
>
> Have any of you tried using a solar battery charger just to maintain
> the battery on rarely driven cars or through the winter hibernation?
> I'm thinking this might be a better option than having a wall wart
> transformer plugged in constantly and the required extension cable
> always under foot.
>
> There's not a lot of sunlight in my garage but certainly enough for my
> solar calculator so I'm guessing it'd be sufficient to trickle charge
> a battery.
>
> Any opinions/advice on this subject?
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 10:37:03 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:37:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] solar battery charger
Message-ID: <mailman.49.1315067884.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Jeff,

I do not know about the solar charger but if you leave something connected all the time it should have the ability to sense the level of charge in the battery so it does not get overcharged.

I have used variations of Battery Minder (there are a number of brands that use the same block)that both sense the charge level and have some circuitry that help keep the plates in good shape. I will plug the car into them in Nov and remove it in April. Now I get 10+ years on a battery.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Jeff Foster
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] solar battery charger
Sent: Sep 3, 2011 11:10 AM

Seeking the wisdom - or at least experience - of the list.  ;-)

Have any of you tried using a solar battery charger just to maintain
the battery on rarely driven cars or through the winter hibernation?
I'm thinking this might be a better option than having a wall wart
transformer plugged in constantly and the required extension cable
always under foot.

There's not a lot of sunlight in my garage but certainly enough for my
solar calculator so I'm guessing it'd be sufficient to trickle charge
a battery.

Any opinions/advice on this subject?
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Sep  3 13:45:44 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:45:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] solar battery charger
In-Reply-To: <20110903170513.ED10F1878DE@autox.team.net>
References: <20110903170513.ED10F1878DE@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <000d01cc6a72$121e1880$365a4980$@rr.com>

I picked up a HF one a couple years ago and put it on the roofline of my
shed to keep the garden tractor battery tended to over the winter.

So far so good.  It does have some circuitry in it, so it's not a straight
solar cell to alligator clips. 

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of an5.sprite at gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:37 AM
To: Jeff Foster; spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] solar battery charger

Jeff,

I do not know about the solar charger but if you leave something connected
all the time it should have the ability to sense the level of charge in the
battery so it does not get overcharged.

I have used variations of Battery Minder (there are a number of brands that
use the same block)that both sense the charge level and have some circuitry
that help keep the plates in good shape. I will plug the car into them in
Nov and remove it in April. Now I get 10+ years on a battery.

Steve

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Sat Sep  3 20:13:51 2011
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:13:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275
Message-ID: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Greetings folks,
I have searched the archives but not found much on this....
I
am trying to fit a gear reduction starter to my Mk2 sprite , 1275 with
rivergate 5 spd kit.

The starter has the adjustable mounting plate, but the
only orientation I can get it to fit gives about 1mm clearance between the
footwell and 2 areas of the starter body. Not nearly enough as the engine
movement will cause a clash.
To grind or not to grind at the new starter
motor...?


Has anybody dealt with this before?

I found an old post from
Roger Cotting, who had a modern satrter in his rivergated spridget.... not
much helpful detail though, just that he has one and it fits.


Perhaps others
can help.
Cheers,
Andy

Gold Coast Australia

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Sep  3 20:43:04 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:43:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7-etgDkd2Cc_84p6yYh7QDcDOFJMvouNq9WeP6psmOCPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1824360747.867772.1314976695891.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><961481476.808610.1314978015066.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><CAMEj5Otn4BX2Fq+4c1+ZPEY25eUiiBM_UJyWziV3Ba469CW-zw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEAAx7-etgDkd2Cc_84p6yYh7QDcDOFJMvouNq9WeP6psmOCPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4CA2CEA67B9404D90096138F2168C70@t60>

Well - did anybody get over to the garage sale?

I probably could have made it over there but I had to prepare for a family
gathering, plus I didn't' see anything I really needed.

I am curious as to what the asking price of the mgb-gt was...and the full
sized ninja suit:)

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 1:27 AM
To: Allen Hefner
Cc: Spridgets list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: 9/3 THIS SATURDAY Garage Sale Royersford

He's probably asking $10k for the MGB but would let you steal it from
him for $8k.  The ad reads to me like there won't be any real bargains
at that sale.
OTOH, you may find something good and decently priced.
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 21:08:01 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:08:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275
In-Reply-To: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78_=RjQS5QVfaEnuxNRTVgxersvEMkB_XtmOnh-yppsqw@mail.gmail.com>

>From my notes on the Isuzu starter:

Isuzu Starter #16878


1989-90 Isuzu Amigo 2.6L

1989-94 Isuzu Amigo 2.3L

1988-89 Isuzu Impulse 2.3L

1985-89 Isuzu Impulse 2.0L Turbo

1988-89 Isuzu Pickup 2.6L

1986-94 Isuzu Pickup 2.3L

1988-90 Isuzu Trooper 2.6L

1986-87 Isuzu Trooper 2.3L

It should work.  It worked with Paul A's kit, but I am not sure about
Rivergate.  I think Rivergate had more than one design with starters
in different places.

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 22:40:57 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:40:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275
In-Reply-To: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0ztYW2fq1z6h+OEf8fwdM9n5-LbPQRUGGgZZeYZ1JoZTQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Andy Webster <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
The starter has the adjustable mounting plate, but the only
orientation I can get it to fit gives about 1mm clearance between the
footwell and 2 areas of the starter body. Not nearly enough as the
engine movement will cause a clash. To grind or not to grind at the
new starter motor...?
-------------------------------
This topic has been on the list before. The "we tight" remedy is to
put a couple well placed dimples in the floorpan with a ball peen
hammer.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 23:13:36 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:13:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ManCave
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAGSWE063_KKb4grNTMa5W5O=Oqqn2+_7t20PFPAyv_okQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid35036491001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAACC6OgzE~,L0bTvfk9n161rxAUbRKUHVmDGRBSHx-N&bctid=958137284001

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From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Sat Sep  3 23:30:23 2011
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275
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Cheers Kent,
That is the conclusion I had drawn. There is also a brake line
in the way (RHD car) which I have covered in plastic tube so it wont rub
through and pushed out of the way as needed.


I think it was you who helped
me out with this engine and  kit a few years ago. 

Unless it was another
Kent....
thanks again.

Andy



________________________________
From:
CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
To: Andy Webster
<a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Sunday, 4 September 2011 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] modern starter with
5spd 1275

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Andy Webster
<a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
The starter has the adjustable mounting
plate, but the only
orientation I can get it to fit gives about 1mm clearance
between the
footwell and 2 areas of the starter body. Not nearly enough as the
engine movement will cause a clash. To grind or not to grind at the
new
starter motor...?
-------------------------------
This topic has been on the
list before. The "we tight" remedy is to
put a couple well placed dimples in
the floorpan with a ball peen
hammer.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full
of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 23:38:19 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:38:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] If you are over 50 - you will love this
In-Reply-To: <1314982277.10094.YahooMailClassic@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1314982277.10094.YahooMailClassic@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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This will keep you entertained for the next ten years!!

         *Here is a web site like no other. If you are over 50 - you will
love this. You can scroll down the list below and click and watch anything.
(Or you can view the same things at the web site in the link below.) TV
shows (we sure had some good ones), songs (you'll be singing along) - oh my
- what a collection. Just love this. I think you will too.
*


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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 05:42:29 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:42:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275
In-Reply-To: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.50.1315136577.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I had the same issue using the original transmission. I rounded a corner on the starter to get more clearance. 

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Webster <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:13:51 
To: sprites<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: Andy Webster <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275

Greetings folks,
I have searched the archives but not found much on this....
I
am trying to fit a gear reduction starter to my Mk2 sprite , 1275 with
rivergate 5 spd kit.

The starter has the adjustable mounting plate, but the
only orientation I can get it to fit gives about 1mm clearance between the
footwell and 2 areas of the starter body. Not nearly enough as the engine
movement will cause a clash.
To grind or not to grind at the new starter
motor...?


Has anybody dealt with this before?

I found an old post from
Roger Cotting, who had a modern satrter in his rivergated spridget.... not
much helpful detail though, just that he has one and it fits.


Perhaps others
can help.
Cheers,
Andy

Gold Coast Australia
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Sep  4 07:19:48 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:19:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0ztYW2fq1z6h+OEf8fwdM9n5-LbPQRUGGgZZeYZ1JoZTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1315102431.87258.YahooMailNeo@web114706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<CA+Xq+0ztYW2fq1z6h+OEf8fwdM9n5-LbPQRUGGgZZeYZ1JoZTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A952C0042F24AA2BBBDA209889A74E0@Home>

>The "we tight" remedy is to put a couple well placed dimples
> in the floorpan with a ball peen hammer.


Get out you hammer and remember all you learned from Frank.

Michael Rowe

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Sep  4 10:31:56 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:31:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
Message-ID: <8E22C07AC8554C5695432F0828C6FDDD@Home>

There used to be someone selling rechromed BE rear bumpers online somewhere, I though on eBay.  I can't find him.  Any ideas?

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Sep  4 11:09:26 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:09:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering
Message-ID: <1431CD157D494F51A0379ACE02C059A4@Home>

I just noticed a fair amount of slop in my steering pinion (??maybe always there??).  Is this just old age wear, or might the damper pad adjustment have some effect?

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget

From montpaul at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 11:16:32 2011
From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:16:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
In-Reply-To: <8E22C07AC8554C5695432F0828C6FDDD@Home>
References: <8E22C07AC8554C5695432F0828C6FDDD@Home>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W565535DC4E03D531C5687CD51A0@phx.gbl>

It is there and maybe here: For the life of me I can not see the #. Maybe it
is somewhere--sorry






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> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
>
> There used to be someone selling rechromed BE rear bumpers online somewhere,
I though on eBay.  I can't find him.  Any ideas?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From montpaul at msn.com  Sun Sep  4 11:30:12 2011
From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:30:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Bumpers
Message-ID: <SNT128-W24207E0FC5F22E45186FEED51A0@phx.gbl>

The number is: 320753400550

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 11:37:46 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:37:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering
Message-ID: <mailman.51.1315157887.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Have you added oil to the rack recently?

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Mike Rowe
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering
Sent: Sep 4, 2011 1:09 PM

I just noticed a fair amount of slop in my steering pinion (??maybe always there??).  Is this just old age wear, or might the damper pad adjustment have some effect?

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 11:38:28 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:38:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
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Did you try searching on completed auctions?
------Original Message------
From: Mike Rowe
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To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
Sent: Sep 4, 2011 12:31 PM

There used to be someone selling rechromed BE rear bumpers online somewhere, I though on eBay.  I can't find him.  Any ideas?

Michael Rowe
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'60 Sprite kit
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep  4 11:42:01 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:42:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320753400550

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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bumpers

It is there and maybe here: For the life of me I can not see the #. Maybe it
is somewhere--sorry






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 > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:31:56 -0400
> From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
>
> There used to be someone selling rechromed BE rear bumpers online
somewhere,
I though on eBay.  I can't find him.  Any ideas?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep  4 12:43:34 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:43:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bumpers
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W565535DC4E03D531C5687CD51A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CA8914E6.1B584%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Isn't that ebay source exchange only?

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  4 13:43:24 2011
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:43:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] solar battery charger
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I have one in use on my junk truck.  It keeps me from having to bump start or
jump it when I make a run to the dump or lumber yard every couple of weeks. 
Only paid $16 for it at Lowe$ on markdown.  I may get another to hook to the
tracktor and place the panel in the shed window.  

From: Jeff Foster
<tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
To: Spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Saturday, September 3, 2011 8:10 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] solar battery charger
Seeking the wisdom - or at least experience - of the list.  ;-)

Have any of
you tried using a solar battery charger just to maintain
the battery on rarely
driven cars or through the winter hibernation?
I'm thinking this might be a
better option than having a wall wart
transformer plugged in constantly and
the required extension cable
always under foot.

There's not a lot of sunlight
in my garage but certainly enough for my
solar calculator so I'm guessing it'd
be sufficient to trickle charge
a battery.

Any opinions/advice on this
subject?
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From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Sun Sep  4 17:19:10 2011
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:19:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] modern starter with 5spd 1275
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When I installed the Isuszu starter on my 67 vintage race car, I heated 
the vertical corner of the  passenger foot well with a propane torch and 
then used a big hammer to dent it in for clearance. I then spray painted 
it BRG to match the engine compartment. That section is a double panel - 
the engine side is vertical and the passenger side is angled. There is 
about 1/4 " clearance to the flange of the starter but I did use an 
engine steady bracket that I designed. I have never had any problems. I 
will do the same when I finish my '72 and use the ever reliable Isuszu.

Bob




9/4/2011 12:40 AM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Andy Webster<a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>  wrote:
> The starter has the adjustable mounting plate, but the only
> orientation I can get it to fit gives about 1mm clearance between the
> footwell and 2 areas of the starter body. Not nearly enough as the
> engine movement will cause a clash. To grind or not to grind at the
> new starter motor...?
> -------------------------------
> This topic has been on the list before. The "we tight" remedy is to
> put a couple well placed dimples in the floorpan with a ball peen
> hammer.

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Sun Sep  4 22:44:19 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:44:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
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   I am running fuel line on my 1959 bugeye and I can't decide whether  
to go with rubber or copper.Where can I get the copper fuel line or  
the rubber? I don't think Moss sells the whole length.Where can I buy  
the long piece of brake line that goes from the front to rear axle? 
Where is the optimal place to put an electric fuel pump?Which pump is  
best for a negative ground car?

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Sep  4 22:54:14 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:54:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
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Wow, you ask questions like I do!  ;-)

Use metal fuel line where you can, it won't break down.  Copper may be ok but
steel line is cheaper and works fine, any good parts place will have it in
straight pieces, although you may have to put two together to get the full
length.  alternately, purchase some CuNi or steel brake line of the right
diameter and use it.

In general, fuel pumps push better than pull so you want the fuel pump close
to the fuel tank.  Somewhere around where the rear axle is seems to work
fine.

Also in general, you do NOT need a high pressure pump.  Facet makes excellent
pumps.  They are small, rectangular and there are generic similar ones at any
FLAPS.  There are better ones, vane type I think, that are quieter, and
cylindrical in shape, also at a FLAPS.

Don't fret, this is a common thing.

Lester


On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Jess Power wrote:

>  I am running fuel line on my 1959 bugeye and I can't decide whether to go
with rubber or copper.Where can I get the copper fuel line or the rubber? I
don't think Moss sells the whole length.Where can I buy the long piece of
brake line that goes from the front to rear axle?Where is the optimal place to
put an electric fuel pump?Which pump is best for a negative ground car?
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From pfeilmat at gmail.com  Sun Sep  4 23:06:07 2011
From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:06:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
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What's a "FLAPS"?

Matt P
Sent from my iPad

On Sep 4, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Wow, you ask questions like I do!  ;-)
>
> Use metal fuel line where you can, it won't break down.  Copper may be ok
but
> steel line is cheaper and works fine, any good parts place will have it in
> straight pieces, although you may have to put two together to get the full
> length.  alternately, purchase some CuNi or steel brake line of the right
> diameter and use it.
>
> In general, fuel pumps push better than pull so you want the fuel pump
close
> to the fuel tank.  Somewhere around where the rear axle is seems to work
> fine.
>
> Also in general, you do NOT need a high pressure pump.  Facet makes
excellent
> pumps.  They are small, rectangular and there are generic similar ones at
any
> FLAPS.  There are better ones, vane type I think, that are quieter, and
> cylindrical in shape, also at a FLAPS.
>
> Don't fret, this is a common thing.
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Jess Power wrote:
>
>> I am running fuel line on my 1959 bugeye and I can't decide whether to go
> with rubber or copper.Where can I get the copper fuel line or the rubber? I
> don't think Moss sells the whole length.Where can I buy the long piece of
> brake line that goes from the front to rear axle?Where is the optimal place
to
> put an electric fuel pump?Which pump is best for a negative ground car?
>> _______________________________________________
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From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Sun Sep  4 23:34:30 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 05:34:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
In-Reply-To: <CCE8FD86-C0AD-4FFF-A50D-93FB9C40D945@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1723100630.1144454.1315200869967.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Friendly Local Auto Parts Store

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt P" <pfeilmat at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2011 10:06:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line

What's a "FLAPS"?

Matt P
Sent from my iPad

On Sep 4, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Wow, you ask questions like I do!  ;-)
>
> Use metal fuel line where you can, it won't break down.  Copper may be ok
but
> steel line is cheaper and works fine, any good parts place will have it in
> straight pieces, although you may have to put two together to get the full
> length.  alternately, purchase some CuNi or steel brake line of the right
> diameter and use it.
>
> In general, fuel pumps push better than pull so you want the fuel pump
close
> to the fuel tank.  Somewhere around where the rear axle is seems to work
> fine.
>
> Also in general, you do NOT need a high pressure pump.  Facet makes
excellent
> pumps.  They are small, rectangular and there are generic similar ones at
any
> FLAPS.  There are better ones, vane type I think, that are quieter, and
> cylindrical in shape, also at a FLAPS.
>
> Don't fret, this is a common thing.
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Jess Power wrote:
>
>> I am running fuel line on my 1959 bugeye and I can't decide whether to go
> with rubber or copper.Where can I get the copper fuel line or the rubber? I
> don't think Moss sells the whole length.Where can I buy the long piece of
> brake line that goes from the front to rear axle?Where is the optimal place
to
> put an electric fuel pump?Which pump is best for a negative ground car?
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  5 06:49:15 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 05:49:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
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> Friendly Local Auto Parts Store
All gone. Even NAPA closed last year.  We have Pep Boys, Ebay, and
Amazon.com

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Sep  5 08:22:41 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 09:22:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
In-Reply-To: <9CE8AA12-5954-419F-8327-51B6AB65A644@comcast.net>
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These folks have all the brake stuff..

http://www.fedhillusa.com/

Lester

On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:07 AM, Jess Power wrote:

> Thanks.Where do I get the CuNi lines?
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Lester wrote:
>
>> Wow, you ask questions like I do!  ;-)
>>
>> Use metal fuel line where you can, it won't break down.  Copper may be ok
but steel line is cheaper and works fine, any good parts place will have it in
straight pieces, although you may have to put two together to get the full
length.  alternately, purchase some CuNi or steel brake line of the right
diameter and use it.
>>
>> In general, fuel pumps push better than pull so you want the fuel pump
close to the fuel tank.  Somewhere around where the rear axle is seems to work
fine.
>>
>> Also in general, you do NOT need a high pressure pump.  Facet makes
excellent pumps.  They are small, rectangular and there are generic similar
ones at any FLAPS.  There are better ones, vane type I think, that are
quieter, and cylindrical in shape, also at a FLAPS.
>>
>> Don't fret, this is a common thing.
>>
>> Lester
>>
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Jess Power wrote:
>>
>>> I am running fuel line on my 1959 bugeye and I can't decide whether to go
with rubber or copper.Where can I get the copper fuel line or the rubber? I
don't think Moss sells the whole length.Where can I buy the long piece of
brake line that goes from the front to rear axle?Where is the optimal place to
put an electric fuel pump?Which pump is best for a negative ground car?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  5 08:57:57 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:57:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
In-Reply-To: <4CF4546D-5E4F-4810-8261-A77C70600D80@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CA8A3185.325F8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> http://www.fedhillusa.com/
The middle one is obviously French, probably for a Renault.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Sep  5 09:55:18 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:55:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
In-Reply-To: <CA8A3185.325F8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <CA8A3185.325F8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <004AB56A-B7E3-4392-94C4-698018167691@comcast.net>

 I thought a car guy such as yourself could recognize Citroen hydraulics from
a mile away!

Lester

On Sep 5, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> http://www.fedhillusa.com/

> The middle one is obviously French, probably for a Renault.

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  5 11:37:47 2011
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:37:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
Message-ID: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Can someone please supply the link for the home made < $25.00 Pressure
Bleeder. I meant to save that link and accidentally cleaned out my trash mail
yesterday and lost it. I forsee by the feel of my carpet that a new dual
Master Cylinder is in my future. Thanks
 
Jim Gruber

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Sep  5 11:49:40 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 13:49:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
Message-ID: <fd7.4598b1c5.3b9665b4@aol.com>

You'll most likely need proper bending tools to bend steel line.   Steel 
lines also corrode, even if galvanised/whatever especially if they salt  the 
roads in the winter and you drive your car on those salted roads.
 
Copper is supposed to work harden and brake though so far this hasn't been  
my experience though the shorter and more prone to vibration lines have 
been  replaced by Copper/Nickel (CuNi) lines which can be bent by hand.
 
I like to use brass fittings on my brake lines as well.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 05/09/2011 06:00:42 GMT Daylight Time,  
oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:

Use  metal fuel line where you can, it won't break down.  Copper may be ok  
but
steel line is cheaper and works fine, any good parts place will have it  in
straight pieces, although you may have to put two together to get the  full
length.  alternately, purchase some CuNi or steel brake line of  the right
diameter and use it.

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Mon Sep  5 12:49:19 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:49:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1315245606.17668.spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <69B1CC3E-1800-48AB-98E2-6AEC22F50944@gerardsgarage.com>

I strongly caution against using rubber hose wherever possible and  
should especially be avoided anywhere below the level of the feed  
source. In the event you have a failure in the rubber line, it has the  
potential to act as a siphon and drain your fuel tank. I once had this  
happen on a 1500 Midget after returning from a drive and parking in  
the garage.  About an hour later, I returned to the garage to discover  
a strong gasoline smell. There was a short rubber hose, approximately  
6", along the bottom of the frame that had ruptured and drained  
several gallons of gasoline onto the floor and into the floor drain.  
Given that my garage was the bottom floor of the house and there was a  
gas water heater about 20 feet away, I was probably only minutes away  
from an explosion that certainly would have destroyed the house.

Gerard


On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:44:19 -0500
> From: Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
> Message-ID: <2C1AEE39-FC5F-4795-87E8-044D85D7C9FE at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>   I am running fuel line on my 1959 bugeye and I can't decide whether
> to go with rubber or copper.Where can I get the copper fuel line or
> the rubber? I don't think Moss sells the whole length.Where can I buy
> the long piece of brake line that goes from the front to rear axle?
> Where is the optimal place to put an electric fuel pump?Which pump is
> best for a negative ground car?

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Sep  5 13:52:09 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:52:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9107F9B7-BA65-40B4-9A61-90F46A3CC4D0@chartermi.net>

James,

This procedure was written with a German Kibblewagon in mind, but the bleeder
will work for a Spridget.

http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:37 PM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Can someone please supply the link for the home made < $25.00 Pressure
> Bleeder. I meant to save that link and accidentally cleaned out my trash
mail
> yesterday and lost it. I forsee by the feel of my carpet that a new dual
> Master Cylinder is in my future. Thanks
>
> Jim Gruber

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 14:06:43 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:06:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=bleeder

From ah3000me at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 15:20:59 2011
From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 17:20:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANQM1PLNCyhrKRf9BBSGoLa6pfTuDCCThttDEYi1cVY7GqvOFQ@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't had great luck with tools that provide suction at cylinder or
caliper.   Best bet is to get someone to pump the pedal.

- Tom

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=bleeder
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 15:53:40 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:53:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.53.1315259643.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I just purchased a power bleeder from Motive products for $49. I have not used it yet but it looks like a quality product. The "bottle" has a built in hand pump and pressure gauge.

I used to ignore changing brake fluid, but have become a convert after seeing how quickly brake fluid changes color in the system.

I tried a friend suction bleeder and it did not work, pressure is the way to go.

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 10:37:47 
To: Spridgets Digest<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder

Can someone please supply the link for the home made < $25.00 Pressure
Bleeder. I meant to save that link and accidentally cleaned out my trash mail
yesterday and lost it. I forsee by the feel of my carpet that a new dual
Master Cylinder is in my future. Thanks
 
Jim Gruber
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Mon Sep  5 16:07:34 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:07:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Crossmember revisited
Message-ID: <1934729795-1315260455-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1040259600-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

As many of you know, I am redoing my 76 midget. I need to at a minimum patch the front jacking beam on each side. I would really prefer not to break the transmission tunnel. It is solid, and my skills are not up to the intricate work. My thought is to cut the full beam (cheaper and more options than the two halves) down square, and have it overlap 3/4 inside of the old section at the back, and about 4 inches elsewhere. Anyone suggest a different path? I've not yet cut the new piece, and detail photos are on my blog. 
Thanks for the input,
Drew
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Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Sep  5 16:53:00 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:53:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line and brake line
In-Reply-To: <69B1CC3E-1800-48AB-98E2-6AEC22F50944@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <mailman.13.1315245606.17668.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<69B1CC3E-1800-48AB-98E2-6AEC22F50944@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <4E6552CC.8090305@tx.rr.com>

Our gas water heater is in a closet that opens into the garage.  When I 
had it replaced about 5 years ago, the plumber said that the codes had 
changed and the water heater had to be installed on a platform that 
elevated it a certain distance above the floor.  He said that flammable 
fumes in a garage were heavier than air and would float close to the 
floor.  This implies that if the water heater is 18" above the floor 
then it will be less likely to ignite fumes.


> drained
> several gallons of gasoline onto the floor and into the floor drain.
> Given that my garage was the bottom floor of the house and there was a
> gas water heater about 20 feet away, I was probably only minutes away
> from an explosion that certainly would have destroyed the house.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep  5 19:19:38 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:19:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8D5E8D15770F4BA48C7DB91D83872760@Home>

> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=bleeder

I bought a HF bleeder, and the reserve can would not seal.  I had to make a 
gasket out of caulk.

Michael Rowe 

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Sep  5 20:43:21 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:43:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <8D5E8D15770F4BA48C7DB91D83872760@Home>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
	<8D5E8D15770F4BA48C7DB91D83872760@Home>
Message-ID: <31FC47F8-87B8-4CA4-BBA7-7CFF0E9C058E@chartermi.net>

How well did it work otherwise?

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

>> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=bleeder
>
> I bought a HF bleeder, and the reserve can would not seal.  I had to make a
gasket out of caulk.
>
> Michael Rowe _______________________________________________

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 21:02:15 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:02:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <31FC47F8-87B8-4CA4-BBA7-7CFF0E9C058E@chartermi.net>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
	<8D5E8D15770F4BA48C7DB91D83872760@Home>
	<31FC47F8-87B8-4CA4-BBA7-7CFF0E9C058E@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_dmKHAcVVsdAqATdXRUBRkOwP8_4G8vQgL3wGa-vL6Eg@mail.gmail.com>

I have one of the brass ones and it works OK for many tasks:
http://www.harborfreight.com/brake-bleeder-and-vacuum-pump-kit-92474.html

The local HF store has the MityVacs, too.

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  5 23:31:37 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 00:31:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7_dmKHAcVVsdAqATdXRUBRkOwP8_4G8vQgL3wGa-vL6Eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
	<8D5E8D15770F4BA48C7DB91D83872760@Home>
	<31FC47F8-87B8-4CA4-BBA7-7CFF0E9C058E@chartermi.net>
	<CAEAAx7_dmKHAcVVsdAqATdXRUBRkOwP8_4G8vQgL3wGa-vL6Eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E65B039.5040008@justbrits.com>

That "thing" is for vacuum situations, derf.....  

eeZibleed for ME ! ! !  Interesting to note that the one
currently hanging from ceiling is # 7 or # 8 as I have
lent unit out and I get either someone walking in the door
with 'cash' in hand or letter with Balance Due (List Price)
because Customer LOVED/S the thing <G> ! ! !

Currently more expensive BUT it WORKS ! ! ! !
And the caps FIT <G> & 'seal' ! ! !

Ed
1]  Please visit MY site at:               www.justbrits.com
2]  Please visit Frank C.'s site at:   www.spritenut.com

PS:  Did a MGTD in LESS than a half-hour last time I
was able <F> ! !

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  5 23:32:12 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:32:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7_dmKHAcVVsdAqATdXRUBRkOwP8_4G8vQgL3wGa-vL6Eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA8AFE6C.325FF%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  HF store has the MityVacs, too
Yeah, I bought one several years ago for bleeding brakes. It's in the drawer
with all of the other one-man bleeding systems that didn't work.
BZ

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  6 04:40:59 2011
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 03:40:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <A0AEEA6DB0BB44BD930967A4AB043839@dell1>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<A0AEEA6DB0BB44BD930967A4AB043839@dell1>
Message-ID: <1315305659.42530.YahooMailNeo@web160310.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Thanks all for the response. 


From: Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net>
To: James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder

http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
> Can someone please supply the link for the home made < $25.00 Pressure
> Bleeder. I meant to save that link and accidentally cleaned out my trash mail
> yesterday and lost it. I forsee by the feel of my carpet that a new dual
> Master Cylinder is in my future. Thanks
> 
> Jim Gruber
> _______________________________________________

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Sep  6 07:38:16 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:38:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <31FC47F8-87B8-4CA4-BBA7-7CFF0E9C058E@chartermi.net>
References: <1315244267.64663.YahooMailNeo@web160316.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAEAAx7-dRdWdLs8UKG0KBEoknxpAQBLZYSZ9oXfgqciH--LECw@mail.gmail.com>
	<8D5E8D15770F4BA48C7DB91D83872760@Home>
	<31FC47F8-87B8-4CA4-BBA7-7CFF0E9C058E@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <6FBB6CD4CA444A7088BF93511EBBB194@Home>

The rest was fine.

> How well did it work otherwise?
>
> Rick
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=bleeder
>>
>> I bought a HF bleeder, and the reserve can would not seal.  I had to make 
>> a
> gasket out of caulk.
>>
>> Michael Rowe _______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 10:34:11 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:34:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
Message-ID: <2998.1246354c.3b97a583@aol.com>

Depends on the change in colour.  Some silicone fluids have a rapid  colour 
change due to an instability in the dye.
 
In a message dated 05/09/2011 23:04:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
an5.sprite at gmail.com writes:

I used  to ignore changing brake fluid, but have become a convert after 
seeing how  quickly brake fluid changes color in the  system.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 10:35:51 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:35:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
Message-ID: <2ae5.6f019a2f.3b97a5e7@aol.com>

Or fit speed bleeder nipples!
 
In a message dated 05/09/2011 22:33:33 GMT Daylight Time,  
ah3000me at gmail.com writes:

I  haven't had great luck with tools that provide suction at cylinder  or
caliper.   Best bet is to get someone to pump the  pedal.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 10:38:16 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:38:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
Message-ID: <2ce0.78212d49.3b97a678@aol.com>

http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html
 
I got 47 out of 50
 
Weslake-Monza 1330

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep  6 10:53:57 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:53:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <2ae5.6f019a2f.3b97a5e7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CA8B9E35.32609%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Or fit speed bleeder nipples!
I have those on all of my cars. It works, but still not as well as someone
else pumping the pedal. I've accepted spongy pedal .
BZ

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Tue Sep  6 11:10:04 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
In-Reply-To: <2ce0.78212d49.3b97a678@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1349422031.1114795.1315329004542.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

41 out of 50..
Missed most of the Chinese and Indian makes.
Frank would have been proud of me. <g>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Tue Sep  6 11:12:24 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:12:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CA8B9E35.32609%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <336925150.1114841.1315329144016.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

 "Billy Zoom"  wrote
> I've accepted spongy pedal <

Is that a new Rock Group??
(Couldn't resist...)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 11:14:11 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:14:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CA8B9E35.32609%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <2ae5.6f019a2f.3b97a5e7@aol.com>
	<CA8B9E35.32609%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-AWJBRtb4TO0U3yuSGa29Jhbxu41ZB-BDZCvMbGWBsug@mail.gmail.com>

You don't know a drummer who can push the pedal for you?

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 11:20:34 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:20:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
In-Reply-To: <2ce0.78212d49.3b97a678@aol.com>
References: <2ce0.78212d49.3b97a678@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAM6-RjfQ8P1zkD7jShY6NbuQU66=UXLPxnXECErb_XKtNRq8aA@mail.gmail.com>

I got 46 out of 50.  Only missed chinese manufacturers!
Hal

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:38 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html
>
> I got 47 out of 50
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 11:29:50 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:29:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
In-Reply-To: <2ce0.78212d49.3b97a678@aol.com>
References: <2ce0.78212d49.3b97a678@aol.com>
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Thank you for sharing, I also got 47 out of 50

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:38 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html
>
> I got 47 out of 50
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 11:34:26 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:34:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <2998.1246354c.3b97a583@aol.com>
References: <2998.1246354c.3b97a583@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAF3a=7+W8v=g=7Z26tsiAHu6aZCwt5WcYVJ5AJy=v4Ng5G6C0w@mail.gmail.com>

What color changes are ok?  I am using Valvoline type3/4 which comes out of
the bottle clear. I assumed that the color change was connected to the
absorption of moisture.  Many car manufacturers recommend changing brake
fluid every 2 years.  Is this excessive?

Steve

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:34 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  Depends on the change in colour.  Some silicone fluids have a rapid
> colour change due to an instability in the dye.
>
> In a message dated 05/09/2011 23:04:19 GMT Daylight Time,
> an5.sprite at gmail.com writes:
>
> I used to ignore changing brake fluid, but have become a convert after
> seeing how quickly brake fluid changes color in the system.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep  6 11:40:53 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:40:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
In-Reply-To: <1349422031.1114795.1315329004542.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1397963138.1377277.1315330853411.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Same score, same errors.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car quiz

41 out of 50..
Missed most of the Chinese and Indian makes.
Frank would have been proud of me. <g>

--
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 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 11:58:54 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:58:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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44 out of 50.  The Chinese ones are tough!!

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

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> I got 47 out of 50
>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep  6 12:10:48 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:10:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Bleeder
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> You don't know a drummer who can push the pedal for you?
Is this a trick question, or have never worked with a drummer?

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Sep  6 12:22:22 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:22:22 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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46 out of 50-
I missed all of the ones that I've never even known existed!


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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 12:49:08 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:49:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
Message-ID: <f790.42751402.3b97c524@aol.com>

I did hear of a score of 48 but until then Me and Brad are the Charmpee  
ons.
 
In a message dated 06/09/2011 18:29:51 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

Thank  you for sharing, I also got 47 out of 50

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:38 AM, <_WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_ 
(mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) >  wrote:

_http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html_ 
(http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html) 

I  got 47 out of 50

Weslake-Monza  1330

From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep  6 12:57:35 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:57:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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I got a 50. It comes from spending too much time in Asia. - Jim 

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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car quiz

I did hear of a score of 48 but until then Me and Brad are the Charmpee  
ons.

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 17:27:33 2011
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:27:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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I didn't realize Mustang had become a car company until I took this quiz!  ;`)

I got 48/50

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:38 AM,  <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html
>
> I got 47 out of 50

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Tue Sep  6 18:18:15 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:18:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
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Why do bugeyes with electronic fuel pumps have an interrupted section  
of brake line that turns from metal to rubber and then back to metal  
again?Is this to prevent arcing from the fuel pump to the metal brake  
line? Does anyone sell ready made FUEL LINE kits complete with  
connectors for a 1959 bugeye?

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Sep  6 18:31:15 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:31:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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Me too!  Dang Chinese companies and I'm ashamed to say I missed Saab. :-(

DW



> http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html
>
> I got 47 out of 50
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
> _______________________________________________

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 18:43:08 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:43:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
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Jess,

You are thinking way too hard about this.  Bugeye's all had mechanical pumps
driven by the engine. When you add an electric pump in the back you need to
cut the fuel lines.  It is much easier to push on a piece of rubber hose
than make a flared end to the fuel line.

Steve



On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Why do bugeyes with electronic fuel pumps have an interrupted section of
> brake line that turns from metal to rubber and then back to metal again?Is
> this to prevent arcing from the fuel pump to the metal brake line? Does
> anyone sell ready made FUEL LINE kits complete with connectors for a 1959
> bugeye?
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 18:57:20 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:57:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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43.
I didn't realize they would show partials.  I missed the part of the DSM logo.
It was downhill from there.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Sep  6 19:10:27 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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49 out of 50. 

I missed on Saab.

 jay




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To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 8:31:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car quiz

Me too!  Dang Chinese companies and I'm ashamed to say I missed Saab. :-(

DW



> http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 19:19:05 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:19:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <5B60F22F-B2E1-4259-BD1F-08914F549BAA@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.13.1315245606.17668.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<5B60F22F-B2E1-4259-BD1F-08914F549BAA@comcast.net>
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Jess,

As Steven has already pointed out, ALL Bugeyes had mechanical fuel pumps and
they all had steel lines both input and output.  However, my very original
'60 Bugeye has its original AC Fuel Pump (recently rebuilt for the first
time) and it also had an original steel braided fuel line (about 6 inches
long) instead of the steel line that curled around the steering column of
the early Bugeyes.

Cheers,

Curt

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Why do Bugeyes with electronic fuel pumps have an interrupted section of
> brake line that turns from metal to rubber and then back to metal again?Is
> this to prevent arcing from the fuel pump to the metal brake line? Does
> anyone sell ready made FUEL LINE kits complete with connectors for a 1959
> Bugeye?
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From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  6 19:36:49 2011
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:36:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
Message-ID: <1315359409.2380.YahooMailClassic@web46401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I use the original machanical fuel pump.  I keep a spare and a membership in AAA. 
Skip J. driving AN5L/37190 around Cincinnati, won a trophy at the Norwood City Car Show yesterday.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep  6 20:56:59 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:56:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <5B60F22F-B2E1-4259-BD1F-08914F549BAA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CA8C2B8B.32637%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Why do bugeyes with electronic fuel pumps have an interrupted section
> of brake line that turns from metal to rubber and then back to metal
> again?Is this to prevent arcing from the fuel pump to the metal brake
> line? Does anyone sell ready made FUEL LINE kits complete with
> connectors for a 1959 bugeye?
I thought 948's all had mechanical pumps.

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 21:06:11 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:06:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <CA8C2B8B.32637%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <5B60F22F-B2E1-4259-BD1F-08914F549BAA@comcast.net>
	<CA8C2B8B.32637%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <CAJKrNeTQNZWivUXffG-ksn19Om_EpFv_uoBKzqqeuuuH1HGAfg@mail.gmail.com>

Billy,

They do.

C

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > Why do bugeyes with electronic fuel pumps have an interrupted section
> > of brake line that turns from metal to rubber and then back to metal
> > again?Is this to prevent arcing from the fuel pump to the metal brake
> > line? Does anyone sell ready made FUEL LINE kits complete with
> > connectors for a 1959 bugeye?
>


> *I thought 948's all had mechanical pumps.*
> _______________________________________________

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 21:25:17 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 03:25:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeTQNZWivUXffG-ksn19Om_EpFv_uoBKzqqeuuuH1HGAfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5B60F22F-B2E1-4259-BD1F-08914F549BAA@comcast.net><CA8C2B8B.32637%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><CAJKrNeTQNZWivUXffG-ksn19Om_EpFv_uoBKzqqeuuuH1HGAfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.54.1315365937.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

They all had mechanical pumps, today many don't.

Steve
Sent from me.

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Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:06:11 
To: Billy Zoom<billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Jess Power<jessmd1 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brake lines

Billy,

They do.

C

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > Why do bugeyes with electronic fuel pumps have an interrupted section
> > of brake line that turns from metal to rubber and then back to metal
> > again?Is this to prevent arcing from the fuel pump to the metal brake
> > line? Does anyone sell ready made FUEL LINE kits complete with
> > connectors for a 1959 bugeye?
>


> *I thought 948's all had mechanical pumps.*
> _______________________________________________
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 21:26:08 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 03:26:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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Wow - had did you miss SAAB and get the Chinese ones?
Sent from me.

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Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:10:27 
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car quiz

49 out of 50. 

I missed on Saab.

 jay




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From: "dwoerpel at wi.net" <dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 8:31:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car quiz

Me too!  Dang Chinese companies and I'm ashamed to say I missed Saab. :-(

DW



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From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Sep  6 22:01:01 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:01:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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Me too, aren't we a shame.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Jay wrote:

> 49 out of 50. 
> 
> I missed on Saab.
> 
> jay
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car quiz
> 
> Me too!  Dang Chinese companies and I'm ashamed to say I missed Saab. :-(
> 
> DW
> 
> 
> 
>> http://www.driving.ca/quiz/logosquiz/index.html
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  6 22:39:16 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:39:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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I got 49 out of 50. Mistook the Saab logo for that of a Peugeot. Then I saw
the Peugeot later and knew instantly. I must admit that I guessed on the 4
Chinese makes, but you can figure them out if you know what most of the other
choices look like. Also...Since when is Mustang a manufacturer? Oh well,
Thanks Daniel, that was fun.
 - David

From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com"
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To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday,
September 6, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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I got 47 out of 50
Weslake-Monza 1330
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  6 22:47:19 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:47:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car quiz
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I wasn't even gonna say nuttin, cause..............

<< Me too, aren't we a shame. >>

Me three <F> !

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  7 06:28:00 2011
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 05:28:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] British car estate sale!!
Message-ID: <1315398480.65908.YahooMailNeo@web160813.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Not sure if y'all have seen this yet.......  tons of sweet stuff.  I'd love to
go pickin' at this sale.
http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/photopanel.cgi?listingid=1192333&category=0
&zip=&kwd=

 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep  7 16:42:17 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 22:42:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
In-Reply-To: <BAY156-W25FFB4D3E0B8F843E5CCEB8E1F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1508420737.1136408.1315435337196.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

>From my car-knowledgeable son in Paris, France...

"Another mistake in the quiz:

Bugatti is not an Italian car company.
Ettore Bugatti was French, based in Mulhouse, France but the company was bought by the VW group a while ago."

To which we can add Jaguar, MG, LandRover (and quite a few others) now Chinese owned :(

 --
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep  7 19:05:33 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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Mea Maxima Culpa..  :(
My data is wrong but my sentiments remain the same! 
Where's that darn hand-basket?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "an5 sprite" <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

> Land Rover and Jaguar is owned by the Tata group in India - not
> Chinese

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 18:59:38 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 00:59:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
Message-ID: <mailman.56.1315445234.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Land Rover and Jaguar is owned by the Tata group in India - not Chinese 

Steve
------Original Message------
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To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
Sent: Sep 7, 2011 6:42 PM

>From my car-knowledgeable son in Paris, France...

"Another mistake in the quiz:

Bugatti is not an Italian car company.
Ettore Bugatti was French, based in Mulhouse, France but the company was bought by the VW group a while ago."

To which we can add Jaguar, MG, LandRover (and quite a few others) now Chinese owned :(

 --
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 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Wed Sep  7 20:25:11 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 02:25:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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And Tatra is no longer Czech-owned. :-(

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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 5:59:38 PM
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Land Rover and Jaguar is owned by the Tata group in India - not Chinese 

Steve
------Original Message------
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To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
Sent: Sep 7, 2011 6:42 PM

>From my car-knowledgeable son in Paris, France...

"Another mistake in the quiz:

Bugatti is not an Italian car company.
Ettore Bugatti was French, based in Mulhouse, France but the company was bought by the VW group a while ago."

To which we can add Jaguar, MG, LandRover (and quite a few others) now Chinese owned :(

 --
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 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep  7 20:34:26 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:34:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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But they did develop the swing axle rear end which tended to center itself
on the high center roads they had way back when.
Dr. Porsche copied it for one of his designs; I forget which one. ...
=========================================================================
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:25 PM
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And Tatra is no longer Czech-owned. :-(

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep  7 20:38:45 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:38:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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>  no longer Czech-owned. :-(
That might be a good thing. The Czechs make terrible tubes.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 04:35:58 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 06:35:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
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Curt,
Wow I never saw the steel braided line?
Got a photo of that so I can archive it?
I prefer to keep all my vehicles stock but my 62 arrived at my door with a
1275, not that I'm complaining but it is not stock so I feel a little like a
hypocrite ; )
>From most of the posts I have read about the stock mechanical pumps in the
948 they never seem to have trouble which is very cool making me scratch my
head wondering why they would switch to electric with the newer larger
engines. Anyone know?
As to the original question from Jess of rubber to metal on the larger newer
1275 engines why didn't they just go steel all the way through?
Lin

PS I'm a little backed up being school just started so if I have not replied
t any messages it is because my mailbox is almost full with unread messages
; )



On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jess,
>
> As Steven has already pointed out, ALL Bugeyes had mechanical fuel pumps
> and
> they all had steel lines both input and output.  However, my very original
> '60 Bugeye has its original AC Fuel Pump (recently rebuilt for the first
> time) and it also had an original steel braided fuel line (about 6 inches
> long) instead of the steel line that curled around the steering column of
> the early Bugeyes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Why do Bugeyes with electronic fuel pumps have an interrupted section of
> > brake line that turns from metal to rubber and then back to metal
> again?Is
> > this to prevent arcing from the fuel pump to the metal brake line? Does
> > anyone sell ready made FUEL LINE kits complete with connectors for a 1959
> > Bugeye?
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 06:02:31 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 08:02:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 59 Sprite 3K craigslist Los Angeles
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfPLRtPhA60cY9E3uu5AmuTV3xaVndhni_Q=je7fv8Fmw@mail.gmail.com>

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/2571688734.html

Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 06:04:40 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 08:04:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
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Cool Skip glad to hear you won!
Lin

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I use the original machanical fuel pump.  I keep a spare and a membership
> in AAA.
> Skip J. driving AN5L/37190 around Cincinnati, won a trophy at the Norwood
> City Car Show yesterday.
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Sep  8 08:31:03 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 14:31:03 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny mount spacer
Message-ID: <20110908.083103.1474.0@webmail55.dca.untd.com>

This is one for those of you who have worked with the later Spridgets- When I
went to install the replacement ribcase tranny in the MKII, it came without
the rear tranny mount, so I went to swap it from the old trans (also a
ribcase) and found a thin (1/4"?) spacer under the passengers side of the
trans where it mounts -between the tranny and the rubber mount. Since I
installed n Isuzu starter, and it was rather close to the footwell, I decided
to put it on the driver's side to gain a little clearance on the starter
(outsmarted myself again, methinks). So now, when in the higher gears, I get a
vibration on the passengers side of the tunnel around the shift tower,
especially under load.
The new tranny has the reverse light switch on it. Any idea if I can move the
spacer from one side to the other without having to pull the trans and engine
forward?
PS I'm still not happy with the engine in the MKII- no real pickup until >2500
R's, but its only got ~200 miles on it- time to change the oil and retune I
guess.


Mark Haynes
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 11:26:37 2011
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:26:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Where's the little girl?
Message-ID: <CANx9iMNnAtjV__s8y=KfrXN1U9UofnoKC=18KzbZre=8SQuLBA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81805461/

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 12:00:36 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:00:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
Message-ID: <mailman.57.1315504863.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I didn't know Dr. Porsche also designed the spitfire!!!!



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To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
Sent: Sep 7, 2011 10:34 PM

But they did develop the swing axle rear end which tended to center itself
on the high center roads they had way back when.
Dr. Porsche copied it for one of his designs; I forget which one. ...
=========================================================================
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And Tatra is no longer Czech-owned. :-(
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Sep  8 19:05:37 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:05:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
In-Reply-To: <20110908182110.80DE7187912@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CA8EB471.3265C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

My favorite swing axle was the weird French setup in my '63 Caravelle. It
would have been great in an actual car.
BZ

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep  8 19:38:14 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 01:38:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
In-Reply-To: <CA8EB471.3265C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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That's odd. I would have sworn it would have been Brigette Bardow.

Kate




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To: "an5 sprite" <an5.sprite at gmail.com>, corvallis at peoplepc.com, spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 6:05:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

My favorite swing axle was the weird French setup in my '63 Caravelle. It
would have been great in an actual car.
BZ
_______________________________________________

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep  8 19:44:07 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 01:44:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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Bridget Bardot.

I was a teenager in the UK when they released her first film.
They tried to ban it in Englnad, so naturally I went to see it, three times the first week ~

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> That's odd. I would have sworn it would have been Brigette Bardow.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep  8 19:53:32 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 01:53:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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I can spell in four languages. French is definitely not one of them. Besides, she was never my type.

Kate

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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 6:44:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

Bridget Bardot.

I was a teenager in the UK when they released her first film.
They tried to ban it in Englnad, so naturally I went to see it, three times the first week ~

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

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> That's odd. I would have sworn it would have been Brigette Bardow.
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep  8 19:56:13 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 01:56:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] MG for sale in Richland, WA  ... NFI
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http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/2541764674.html

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep  8 20:02:01 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 02:02:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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When her first movie came out I was 15 and she was female --- definitely my type <G>

14 movies in the first 4 years -- then the military got me  :(

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> Besides, she was never my type.

From clarici at verizon.net  Thu Sep  8 20:04:56 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:04:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Rack adjustment
Message-ID: <72E0A391-4E9C-4A00-8764-E853BCE1D722@verizon.net>

Is there any adjustment on the steering rack?  I was driving my Sprite the
other night and noticed the steering felt real tight. I know on my VW I can
adjust the tension on the pinion. Is there any way to do this on my Sprite?

Thanks
Frankie

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 20:14:55 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:14:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Rack adjustment
In-Reply-To: <72E0A391-4E9C-4A00-8764-E853BCE1D722@verizon.net>
References: <72E0A391-4E9C-4A00-8764-E853BCE1D722@verizon.net>
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th
<clarici at verizon.net> wrote:
Is there any adjustment on the steering rack?  I was driving my Sprite
the other night and noticed the steering felt real tight. I know on my
VW I can adjust the tension on the pinion. Is there any way to do this
on my Sprite?
_______________________________________________

Check the pinch bolt where the steering shaft connects to the rack
right now before you drive it again! If it has worked loose, it can
cause some really bad problems while driving...

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Sep  8 20:48:59 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:48:59 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Rack adjustment
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Message-ID: <54974.108.123.20.94.1315536539.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

What Kent said.  The only other adjustment is the shims under the
"snubbers"(rack tensioners) that guide the rack itself. These are under
the nuts on top of the rack near each end.  This problem also arises if
the rack mounting shims aren't quite right. I don't think you disturbed
anything like the snubbers or rack mounts so I'm thinking the pinch bolt
or you are low on lube in the rack.

Dave W.



> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th
> <clarici at verizon.net> wrote:
> Is there any adjustment on the steering rack?  I was driving my Sprite
> the other night and noticed the steering felt real tight. I know on my
> VW I can adjust the tension on the pinion. Is there any way to do this
> on my Sprite?
> _______________________________________________
>
> Check the pinch bolt where the steering shaft connects to the rack
> right now before you drive it again! If it has worked loose, it can
> cause some really bad problems while driving...
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep  9 07:14:36 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 08:14:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Rack adjustment
In-Reply-To: <72E0A391-4E9C-4A00-8764-E853BCE1D722@verizon.net>
References: <72E0A391-4E9C-4A00-8764-E853BCE1D722@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <201109090614464.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Also check that the swivel pins, are, well,..... swivelling.....

         Peter C
----
At 09:04 PM 9/8/2011, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote:
>Is there any adjustment on the steering rack?  I was driving my Sprite the
>other night and noticed the steering felt real tight. I know on my VW I can
>adjust the tension on the pinion. Is there any way to do this on my Sprite?
>
>Thanks
>Frankie

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 07:58:04 2011
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Rack adjustment
In-Reply-To: <201109090614464.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <72E0A391-4E9C-4A00-8764-E853BCE1D722@verizon.net>
	<201109090614464.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <1315576684.93886.YahooMailNeo@web125717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

According to the workshop manual, Heavy steering can be caused by:
 
Incorrect
steering geometry
Excessively low tyre pressures
Insufficient lubricant in
steering rack
'Dry' steering connections
Out of track
Incorrectly adjusted
steering gear
Misaligned steering column
 
And, I have never changed the shims
between the rack damper cap and the rack body from what was there from the
factory (I assume), but isn't this the way you adjust the back-lash (either
too tight or too loose) between the pinion and the rack?  Just some thoughts. 
Doug    ....o~'o 

----
At 09:04 PM 9/8/2011, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote:
>Is
there any adjustment on the steering rack?  I was driving my Sprite the
>other
night and noticed the steering felt real tight. I know on my VW I can
>adjust
the tension on the pinion. Is there any way to do this on my Sprite?
>
>Thanks
>Frankie

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Sep  9 09:49:12 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:49:12 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Rack adjustment
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Frankie,
Doug is right, this is NOT the way to adjust backlash.  If you do all that 
happens is you will still have back lash but have won some stiffer (or 
freer) steering as well.
Once the rack has been set (from new or rebuild) unless you distort the 
firewall it is clamped to, there should be no need to touch this pre-load at 
all.  It generally lasts throughout the life of the vehicle.
You should have noticed low tyre pressure from the bulge at the bottom of 
the tyre and the floppy grip with the road(!)
Steering geometry and out of track tends to come along after big holes in 
the road, large pavement edges or collisions with other vehicles.  You 
should know if you have had any of those.  A further cause is lending the 
motor to a friend and finding it comes on just after you have it back!

This leaves dry steering connections and /or bad rack lubrication. Service 
items that tend to be forgotten!!!
If the rack was correctly lubricated when fitted and you haven't noticed any 
weeping from the gaiters this will probably be OK but look at the manual to 
see how yours should be checked and what it should be filled with.
Out of these two latter options it normally leaves absence of the grease 
gun!

Some-one else mentioned very early on about checking the bolted connection 
between the column and rack.  Good advice; very good advice; very, very good 
advice.  Wear on the steering pinion tends to produce backlash and/or sloppy 
steering rather than heavy steering.

Finally ..... In answer to your the question every-one has avoided, yes, you 
can adjust the tension on the pinion by shimming the damper cap

Best of luck

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Altman" <doug_altman at yahoo.com>
To: "Frankie Clarici 4th" <clarici at verizon.net>; "EasternOshitGroup" 
<EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steering Rack adjustment


> According to the workshop manual, Heavy steering can be caused by:
>
> Incorrect steering geometry
> Excessively low tyre pressures
> Insufficient lubricant in steering rack
> 'Dry' steering connections
> Out of track
> Incorrectly adjustedsteering gear
> Misaligned steering column
>
> And, I have never changed the shims
> between the rack damper cap and the rack body from what was there from the
> factory (I assume), but isn't this the way you adjust the back-lash 
> (either
> too tight or too loose) between the pinion and the rack?  Just some 
> thoughts.
> Doug    ....o~'o
>
> ----
> At 09:04 PM 9/8/2011, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote:
>>Is
> there any adjustment on the steering rack?  I was driving my Sprite the
>>other
> night and noticed the steering felt real tight. I know on my VW I can
>>adjust
> the tension on the pinion. Is there any way to do this on my Sprite?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Frankie
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  9 13:42:15 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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Dave G: "14 movies in the first 4 years -- then the military got me  :(  "
...So you're saying the military somehow made her no longer be your type?
 
 -
David Booker 

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Sep  9 14:18:29 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 20:18:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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I think it was that stuff they put in our drinking water......!!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dave G: "14 movies in the first 4 years -- then the military got me :(
> "
> 
> ...So you're saying the military somehow made her no longer be your
> type?
> 
> - David Booker

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Fri Sep  9 16:22:49 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:22:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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In the water? I always thought it was in the mashed potatoes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>

I think it was that stuff they put in our drinking water......!!

----- "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dave G: "14 movies in the first 4 years -- then the military got me :(
> "
> 
> ...So you're saying the military somehow made her no longer be your
> type?
> 
> - David Booker
_

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:28:25 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:28:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tata Company - Ice Road Truckers
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEJ5jsH9BZgq07sm8sVWBtcNjxdYo+fBj3aYchk+fkpXxA@mail.gmail.com>

If you watch Ice Road Truckers where they go to difficult roads in the
Himalaya's you can see the "quality" of the Tata trucks that they have to
drive.  The entire top of the vehicle is wood and will crumble with no
resistance at all in a roll over.

Whenever I watch the show I am amazed that those trucks are able to keep on
going as they do.

I recall it as Ice Road Truckers, but most of you know the program that I am
talking about where American drivers including a young lady drive through
some very difficult roads.

It amazes me that this is the company that is going to build Jaguars.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7313380.stm

Just to mention. . .

Kirk

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:36:45 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:36:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Tata Company - Ice Road Truckers
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They also make the Nano a car that retails for around $3,000, along with mid-size cars and I think even tractors.

The Tata family is one of the richest families in India the own a diverse set of businesses.

I suspect they bought jag and rover to gain some know how for producing cars suitable for export.

My guess is that now that the Korean car companies are going upscale within 5 years the entry level cars will be coming from China and India.

Steve 


Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:28:25 
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Tata Company - Ice Road Truckers

If you watch Ice Road Truckers where they go to difficult roads in the
Himalaya's you can see the "quality" of the Tata trucks that they have to
drive.  The entire top of the vehicle is wood and will crumble with no
resistance at all in a roll over.

Whenever I watch the show I am amazed that those trucks are able to keep on
going as they do.

I recall it as Ice Road Truckers, but most of you know the program that I am
talking about where American drivers including a young lady drive through
some very difficult roads.

It amazes me that this is the company that is going to build Jaguars.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7313380.stm

Just to mention. . .

Kirk
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:41:04 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:41:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Lancaster Ca on Craigs List
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEK_z6AQC8WgECU8h=02qh=YdmTNAB32XrBxK-5SuSGa0g@mail.gmail.com>

Isn't 3k a lot for this car?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/2571688734.html

I bought mine with a quality rebuild on a 1275 (it has been running and not
using appreciable oil) for the last 7 years day in and day out. It did come
with a smooth case with a bum first gear that I changed out for a rib case.
I paid  $4,400.  And no rust in the body save for the bottom of the dog legs
which is an easy repair with panels from Moss.  It also came with a new
top.  No rust in the floor pans.

Lousy yellow paint job but overall a nice example for the money . .* I think
it was anyway?*

Kirk

59 1275

Some of the changes I have made.

OER type DCOE 45 carb which has worked flawlesly over the years.  I love
this carb!
Racing springs in front which also lower the car
Disk brake conversion with original 3/4 master cyl
Rib Case
Urethane bushings
Sway bar added back
Monza exhaust
Headers
Geo Metro radiator
Screw on oil filter
Pertronix
High energy ignition
Electric fuel pump


Bunch of changes that I made to it for it to be a daily driver. But I
probably have no more than 6k total money spent with the changes that I made

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 17:20:28 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:20:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Caravelle
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEKjJcniyaZG_Og2tOaOTFpoe4fW20mekNhDpBOULAki2A@mail.gmail.com>

I checked out the Caravelle via Google, what a cool looking car.

For some strange reason my step mother loved Renault's having bought three
of them over the years.  This was around 1963 for her first Dauphine on to
around 1969.  The early Dauphine for some reason never gave us any
mechanical problems. .  .even though Renault had said at one point that the
early Dauphine was not engineered for America's roads (freeways I guess they
were referring to).

The next one was wrecked by my older step brother, a strange design with a
folded looking front over the engine area and the third, the same model
which continued to last on through the years.

My surfer buddy would borrow his parents early Dauphine where we would pack
it up with 4 long boards on top and drive the coast on the weekends looking
for the best spot.  It was an automatic and I recall all of us having to get
out to push it up hills above the Sunset Cliffs area.   But all of them were
cars that never seemed to have mechanical problems, which I still find
interesting.

My father later owned a larger Renault which ate alternators like they were
going out of style and if he had not punished himself thoroughly enough he
then bought a Renault called something like "Fuego" which was truly a piece
of junk.  But again those early Dauphines seemed to be mechanically sound as
far as I remember them never having to go back to the dealer for repair
work.


Kirk

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep  9 18:44:54 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:44:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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I drank the same water, and I can still appreciate a good looking guy, even at my advanced age. I will confess to feeling a bit like a pedophile flirting with my 40 year old bartender.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 1:18:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

I think it was that stuff they put in our drinking water......!!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dave G: "14 movies in the first 4 years -- then the military got me :(
> "
> 
> ...So you're saying the military somehow made her no longer be your
> type?
> 
> - David Booker
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Sep  9 19:26:12 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 18:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Lancaster Ca on Craigs List
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The asking price is a side issue. 

That paint job is perfect.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
63 Pink Sprite Mk II
61 Innocenti Spider 950





________________________________
From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: grunthaner at gmail.com
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, September 9, 2011 6:41:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Lancaster Ca on Craigs List

Isn't 3k a lot for this car?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/2571688734.html

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Fri Sep  9 20:02:14 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 21:02:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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I'm normally in the habit of reading the messages one after the other 
and not looking at who they are from.  After reading the first 14 words 
I had to stop and look to see who the message was from.

> I drank the same water, and I can still appreciate a good looking guy, even at my advanced age. I will confess to feeling a bit like a pedophile flirting with my 40 year old bartender.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 20:55:58 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:55:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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You can flirt with me.  We haven't met so to me you look like Sophia Loren.

The other day I was playing basketball. It was my group, average age
about 48, against a group of younger guys, average age about 20.  One
young guy wouldn't get off the phone so his teammates said "It must be
a girl" and "Well, is she cute?".  The guy said "It's my mom." to
which I said "Well, is she cute?"

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep  9 21:05:57 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:05:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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Well, I DO cook Italian. By the way, is your dad cute?

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>, "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 7:55:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

You can flirt with me.  We haven't met so to me you look like Sophia Loren.

The other day I was playing basketball. It was my group, average age
about 48, against a group of younger guys, average age about 20.  One
young guy wouldn't get off the phone so his teammates said "It must be
a girl" and "Well, is she cute?".  The guy said "It's my mom." to
which I said "Well, is she cute?"

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  9 21:10:01 2011
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 23:10:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [EasternOshitGroup] Steering Rack adjustment
In-Reply-To: <72E0A391-4E9C-4A00-8764-E853BCE1D722@verizon.net>
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Message-ID: <COL117-W1089DD9B1096A84BECD2DEC2000@phx.gbl>

hey Frankie,

are you sure the rest of the front end is well lubed?
sometimes a sticky bushing or tie rod will make it
feel tight.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
To: EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com
From: clarici at verizon.net
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:04:56 -0400
Subject: [EasternOshitGroup] Steering Rack adjustment




























      Is there any adjustment on the steering rack?  I was driving my Sprite
the other night and noticed the steering felt real tight. I know on my VW I
can adjust the tension on the pinion. Is there any way to do this on my
Sprite?



Thanks

Frankie



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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 21:14:50 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:14:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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My mom thinks so.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM,  <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Well, I DO cook Italian. By the way, is your dad cute?
>
> Kate

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep  9 21:24:59 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:24:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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Scratch that one. Surely Gary wasn't the only man who didn't feel intimidated by a female who didn't mind getting her hands greasy.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 8:14:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

My mom thinks so.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM,  <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Well, I DO cook Italian. By the way, is your dad cute?
>
> Kate

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Sep  9 21:51:56 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:51:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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They don't intimidate me... they're just hard to find  :)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> Scratch that one. Surely Gary wasn't the only man who didn't feel
> intimidated by a female who didn't mind getting her hands greasy.

From jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Fri Sep  9 22:11:16 2011
From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 21:11:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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There is a lady in our club who I'd take over most men in the club to 
help work on our cars. She will do anything that is asked, is smart and 
grease and dirt sure don't bother her a bit. Only thing I have to do is 
jack/block up the car a bit further for her when she slides under to 
work on them....there is a clearance problem for her that men don't 
have...lol
She is already taken..darn..(G)

On 9/9/2011 8:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> They don't intimidate me... they're just hard to find  :)
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>   Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>
> ----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
>
>> Scratch that one. Surely Gary wasn't the only man who didn't feel
>> intimidated by a female who didn't mind getting her hands greasy.
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From bkitterer at me.com  Sat Sep 10 01:07:58 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:07:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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He wasn't the only one.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:24 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> Scratch that one. Surely Gary wasn't the only man who didn't feel intimidated by a female who didn't mind getting her hands greasy.
> 
> Kate
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
> To: kgb at frontiernet.net
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> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
> 
> My mom thinks so.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM,  <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Well, I DO cook Italian. By the way, is your dad cute?
>> 
>> Kate
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 10 04:11:13 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:11:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Lancaster Ca on Craigs List
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I'm pretty sure this is one of the unfound works specials.  The hole in the
rear deck was actually a speed secret to keep air from being trapped in the
boot area and reducing top speed.

Rick


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--- On Fri, 9/9/11, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Lancaster Ca on Craigs List
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 9:26 PM

The asking price is a side issue.

That paint job is perfect.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
63 Pink Sprite Mk II
61 Innocenti Spider 950





________________________________
From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: grunthaner at gmail.com
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, September 9, 2011 6:41:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Lancaster Ca on Craigs List

Isn't 3k a lot for this car?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/2571688734.html
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 10:15:29 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:15:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] casual LBC content
Message-ID: <793DCC55D4EE451D96C9630908027EB5@spider>

Subject: This is the wrap-up from Laguna Seca.

 

My old 1965 VW beetle did very well; one-third of the 7B field didn't
finish. Steve was accosted after the race by a driver of a British car;
accused of being a "menace." 

This is an on-track picture. 

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318667_1993063502330_11156746
09_31752654_952079907_n.jpg

 

This is a short video in the pits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdg05cJ_o4

 

This is the wrap-up from Laguna Seca; lots of exotic cars plus a Chrysler
#43

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/08/26/event-gt-gt-rolex-historics-wrap-
up.aspx

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 10:47:42 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:47:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops. tinyurl LBC content
Message-ID: <820E9E56825C4F6CB1EDDF52220B1F19@spider>

This is an on-track picture of #66. 
http://tinyurl.com/3nc5kqz

This is a short video in the pits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdg05cJ_o4

This is the wrap-up from Laguna Seca; lots of exotic cars plus a Chrysler
#43
http://tinyurl.com/4yglqmh
_______________________________________________

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sat Sep 10 11:07:26 2011
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:07:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Labor day at lime rock park
Message-ID: <E9F47A46-2391-4E97-BAC0-A15BF5A167AD@hoppetool.com>

Hi all!

Just wanted to give an overview of the historics.. First of all it was great
racing and nice to see so many racers (250 entrants)! I met a few people there
but surprisingly not many with midgets!

The racing:
Competition was great! There were many midgets in my group, which was group 5.
Some other cars were in our group such as elva couriers, spitfires, and one
car that should not have been in our race.. A sports racer beach abarth.
Naturally he was the fastest car and lapped all the way to second place. Ray
Stone was there in his 948 bugeye in second place with a fastest lap of 1:03.
I personally qualified 6th in my spridget and on Monday in the all mg race I
qualified 12th and finished in 5th! My best lap time was a 1:06.910 after
putting 2 new tires on. I have video of a lot of the races but the sound is
just wind unfortunately. I had one mechanical failure on Monday with in turn
had me starting in 21st position on Monday afternoon. When mother nature was
rearing her ugly head.. I felt pretty comfortable aside from hydroplaning on 3
parts of the track on every lap. The final race was 5 laps and I finished in
6th place, almost 5th. I was passing an abarth at the checkered but was about
2 feet short of 5th..

Results haven't been posted on lime rocks website for whatever reason. But it
was a great time!!


On a separate note we just bought a 58 bugeye!!! It's beautiful! Built by
predator.

Sincerely,

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 11:46:38 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:46:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVftv+rc=zeUUHxsOsEsNcbFf0VfgnCnUDpv35Jx=8FuGA@mail.gmail.com>

List
I have been very reluctant to cut my original steel fuel line in my 62
Sprite "Pinky" but I'm finally getting around to installing the Facet elect
fuel pump in the rear for the 1275 engine and I think I want to just keep
the line in tact for future use and install a copper line like most have
done but I can't find the small nipple for the line, I can buy copper at the
plumbing store for 1/2 the price Victoria British is selling the kit for so
all I need is the threaded nipple. Can someone tell me where I can get the
threaded nipple that goes on the copper line and then screwed to the tank as
seen the image in Vicky's link (see bottom of page below)? Or is it just a
standard plumbing size or available at a FLAPS? Also correct me is the
female threaded part on the tank the unobtainable part or is it the male
nipple that I'm trying to locate? I could use the old nipple but want to
keep this one for later use.
Lin
http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/sm/full.aspx?Page=61

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 12:24:58 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:24:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
Message-ID: <C50E9E9E1A5F43F0A602C1E9CBD5D8BD@spider>

How do you bleed the slave cylinder on a 1960 Bugeye?  ..bill in corvallis

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 12:32:58 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:32:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
Message-ID: <CABWjhcJCwBhEBmSinTWo+0rhK6ZpdF_uQn0FX+ANvcWQER2Nuw@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know if it's still available but there's a bare rust free RWA tub
down in Orange County.
It would be really cool to build up an RWA car from scratch in my spare time
- so understand I don't "need": this but it would be cool.
Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing from there to here
for cheap?

Rick (cuz I really need another project) Bastedo

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Sep 10 12:56:22 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:56:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
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An entire Spridget will fit in the back of a full size pickup. I would imagine just the tub would be a piece of cake. Make mine chocolate, please.

Kate




----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Bastedo" <rbastedo at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:32:58 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?

I don't know if it's still available but there's a bare rust free RWA tub
down in Orange County.
It would be really cool to build up an RWA car from scratch in my spare time
- so understand I don't "need": this but it would be cool.
Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing from there to here
for cheap?

Rick (cuz I really need another project) Bastedo
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 10 12:59:50 2011
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:59:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
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uship.com, Rick.  It's the best.  Kind of like ebay.  You put out there how
much you are willing to pay, and offers start coming in.  You can judge them
by their feedback.

 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/


________________________________
From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent:
Saturday, September 10, 2011 2:32 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal.
- transport to NW?

I don't know if it's still available but there's a bare
rust free RWA tub
down in Orange County.
It would be really cool to build up
an RWA car from scratch in my spare time
- so understand I don't "need": this
but it would be cool.
Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the
thing from there to here
for cheap?

Rick (cuz I really need another project)
Bastedo
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Sep 10 13:01:24 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:01:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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Ah, but you're already taken. I have a strict code against messing with a man who is married or otherwise attached.

By the way, the ice skate vase is a perfect display for my columbines every year. It brings back memories whenever I see it. Thanks again.

Kate




----- Original Message -----
From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at me.com>
To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:07:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

He wasn't the only one.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:24 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> Scratch that one. Surely Gary wasn't the only man who didn't feel intimidated by a female who didn't mind getting her hands greasy.
> 
> Kate
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
> To: kgb at frontiernet.net
> Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 8:14:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
> 
> My mom thinks so.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM,  <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Well, I DO cook Italian. By the way, is your dad cute?
>> 
>> Kate
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From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Sat Sep 10 13:10:05 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:10:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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A number of years ago I joined a group of coed fellow pre-geezers to form an early-morning coffee club that met at the local, independently-owned coffee shop. We all befriended and socialized with one of the part-time baristas,  a young women of 16. Along with her part-time job, went to school full-time (taking advanced courses), completely and competently managed the household while both parents were working out of the state or out of the country, had  a full-time boyfriend, kept her semi-wild brother on the straight and narrow, became a serious snow boarder, and produced and sold postcards from photos she had taken. 

All this was in stark contrast to the dung heap which, at that time, my life was becoming.

At first, I guess I was intimidated. On second glance, I guess I found a role model,

----- Original Message -----
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To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:07:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

He wasn't the only one.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:24 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> Scratch that one. Surely Gary wasn't the only man who didn't feel intimidated by a female who didn't mind getting her hands greasy.
> 
> Kate
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: kgb at frontiernet.net
> Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 8:14:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
> 
> My mom thinks so.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM,  <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Well, I DO cook Italian. By the way, is your dad cute?
>> 
>> Kate
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 13:14:06 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:14:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJCwBhEBmSinTWo+0rhK6ZpdF_uQn0FX+ANvcWQER2Nuw@mail.gmail.com>
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Have it put on a pallet, wrap it with clear plastic wrap (industrial grade)
and have it shipped via truck. ...bill (never done this though)
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:33 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?

I don't know if it's still available but there's a bare rust free RWA tub
down in Orange County.
It would be really cool to build up an RWA car from scratch in my spare time
- so understand I don't "need": this but it would be cool.
Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing from there to here
for cheap?

Rick (cuz I really need another project) Bastedo
_______________________________________________

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 10 13:47:36 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:47:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprites & Midgets on the Silver Screen
Message-ID: <00d001cc6ff2$7e3f05d0$7abd1170$@net>

http://imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey
<http://imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model=Sprite&modelMatch=1&
modelInclModel=on&page=1>
&model=Sprite&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on&page=1 

http://imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=MG
<http://imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=MG&model=Midget&modelMatch=1&modelInclMo
del=on> &model=Midget&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 10 13:49:50 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:49:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
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Rick wrote:  " Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing
from there to here for cheap?"

Where is "here"?

Buster



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Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:33 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?

I don't know if it's still available but there's a bare rust free RWA tub
down in Orange County.
It would be really cool to build up an RWA car from scratch in my spare time
- so understand I don't "need": this but it would be cool.
Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing from there to here
for cheap?

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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 14:57:57 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:57:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] whoops. tinyurl LBC content
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Yes on the Labour Day weekend run.
I bought the VW new in 1965 and raced it in 1967 and 1968.
It sat in my garage until the 1980's. I sold it to a fellow in the Portland
area and it sat up there until Steven Smith found it.
========================================================
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Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:33 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] whoops. tinyurl LBC content

I believe the beetle was originally built by Doug Blackburn back in the mid
'70's. Also it ran at our Columbia River Classic on labor day weekend.
Bob Walker

=========================================================
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> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] whoops. tinyurl LBC content
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, September 10, 2011, 9:47 AM
> This is an on-track picture of #66.
> http://tinyurl.com/3nc5kqz
>
> This is a short video in the pits.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdg05cJ_o4
>
> This is the wrap-up from Laguna Seca; lots of exotic cars
> plus a Chrysler
> #43
> http://tinyurl.com/4yglqmh
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 15:01:26 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:01:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
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We cannot reach the bleeder valve; it is under the starter and fairly close
to the outside of the passenger's footwell wall. I sense it needs replacing
so we may pull it out, and bleed the new one before reattaching it to the
bell housing. ...bill in corvallis
===============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Walker [mailto:spriteracer98 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:38 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?

I had my son do a lot of pumping on the pedal. Pump the pedal several times
and hold it while I cracked the bleeder nipple. Went thru a bottle of fluid
but all is good now.
Bob Walker

===================================================================
--- On Sat, 9/10/11, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, September 10, 2011, 11:24 AM
> How do you bleed the slave cylinder
> on a 1960 Bugeye?  ..bill in corvallis
> _______________________________________________

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 15:02:36 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:02:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
In-Reply-To: <00d501cc6ff2$ce178b40$6a46a1c0$@net>
References: <CABWjhcJCwBhEBmSinTWo+0rhK6ZpdF_uQn0FX+ANvcWQER2Nuw@mail.gmail.com>
	<00d501cc6ff2$ce178b40$6a46a1c0$@net>
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He's in Big T.
Herb

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Rick wrote:  " Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing
> from there to here for cheap?"
>
> Where is "here"?
>
> Buster

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 15:19:13 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:19:13 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1315689579.6963.spridgets@autox.team.net>

It is a PITA. When I replaced the slave in my bugeye after pumping the pedal forever and getting nowhere - removed the slave and bench bled it. I was very lucky because I also found metal filings in the cylinder that had not been properly cleaned out.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
Sent: Sep 10, 2011 2:24 PM

How do you bleed the slave cylinder on a 1960 Bugeye?  ..bill in corvallis
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Sent from me.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 16:13:33 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:13:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
In-Reply-To: <CAEFJhAEjpfsmb2zagH4W2s=-z5aN6y5ZkB3n5-Z_aoU_5o_JfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJCwBhEBmSinTWo+0rhK6ZpdF_uQn0FX+ANvcWQER2Nuw@mail.gmail.com>
	<00d501cc6ff2$ce178b40$6a46a1c0$@net>
	<CAEFJhAEjpfsmb2zagH4W2s=-z5aN6y5ZkB3n5-Z_aoU_5o_JfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABWjhc+sY=SZox8MkGgE+R2RDYcq5BDp8k2iQMqBuw+nys8yPA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry guys, NW in the subject refers to NW USA.
More specifically near Seattle.

Rick (BillM to the rescue - again!) Bastedo


On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:02 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> He's in Big T.
> Herb
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> Rick wrote:  " Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing
>> from there to here for cheap?"
>>
>> Where is "here"?
>>
>> Buster

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Sep 10 16:29:39 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:29:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
In-Reply-To: <CAEFJhAEjpfsmb2zagH4W2s=-z5aN6y5ZkB3n5-Z_aoU_5o_JfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1923220768.1171778.1315693779846.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Texas, Tennessee, Texarkana, Toledo, Turin, Tennerife ??

Could you be just a little more specific  <Grin>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> He's in Big T.
> 
> Herb

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 17:00:44 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:00:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
In-Reply-To: <5830B3D0AC2E4303B35BC58E86925AC0@spider>
References: <C50E9E9E1A5F43F0A602C1E9CBD5D8BD@spider><1315687099.41082.YahooMailClassic@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><5830B3D0AC2E4303B35BC58E86925AC0@spider>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1315695688.6963.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I seem to remember access through an opening on the inside passenger side of the car, though that may have been a "modification"

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:01:26 
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?

We cannot reach the bleeder valve; it is under the starter and fairly close
to the outside of the passenger's footwell wall. I sense it needs replacing
so we may pull it out, and bleed the new one before reattaching it to the
bell housing. ...bill in corvallis
===============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Walker [mailto:spriteracer98 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:38 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?

I had my son do a lot of pumping on the pedal. Pump the pedal several times
and hold it while I cracked the bleeder nipple. Went thru a bottle of fluid
but all is good now.
Bob Walker

===================================================================
--- On Sat, 9/10/11, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, September 10, 2011, 11:24 AM
> How do you bleed the slave cylinder
> on a 1960 Bugeye?  ..bill in corvallis
> _______________________________________________
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 16:59:26 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:59:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
In-Reply-To: <BC87838815464E0D92FE70356A075B51@dell1>
References: <C50E9E9E1A5F43F0A602C1E9CBD5D8BD@spider><1315687099.41082.YahooMailClassic@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<5830B3D0AC2E4303B35BC58E86925AC0@spider>
	<BC87838815464E0D92FE70356A075B51@dell1>
Message-ID: <2D57DE46F72A4C6CAAF79207729A6151@spider>

Ah, that explains it. We saw no hole with a rubber plug. Will redouble our
efforts tomorrow morning. Thank you to all!  ...bill in corvallis 

=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Biff Jones [mailto:biffjones at verizon.net] 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:52 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?

Bill,

Look in the passenger footwell for a rubber plug on the tranny tunnel. Pull 
the plug and you will see the slave cylinder. With some contorsions you can 
work the bleed screw.

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 18:11:49 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:11:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVftv+rc=zeUUHxsOsEsNcbFf0VfgnCnUDpv35Jx=8FuGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVftv+rc=zeUUHxsOsEsNcbFf0VfgnCnUDpv35Jx=8FuGA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sep 10, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

>  Also correct me is the
> female threaded part on the tank the unobtainable part or is it the  
> male
> nipple that I'm trying to locate? I could use the old nipple but  
> want to
> keep this one for later use.

Linda,

The threaded fitting on the gas line that screws into the tank is  
made of unobtanium.

Kevin

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 10 19:05:57 2011
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:05:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?
Message-ID: <ECF45881361743F2AD0E92E8E7E6F5F1@HomeComputer>

Or in the back of a Suburban...

http://home.earthlink.net/~swanson.systems/images/Sprite%20in%20truck.JPG



-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?

An entire Spridget will fit in the back of a full size pickup. I would
imagine just the tub would be a piece of cake. Make mine chocolate, please.

Kate




----- Original Message -----
Subject: [Spridgets] RWA tub in So. Cal. - transport to NW?

I don't know if it's still available but there's a bare rust free RWA tub
down in Orange County.
It would be really cool to build up an RWA car from scratch in my spare time
- so understand I don't "need": this but it would be cool.
Anyone have any great ideas on how to transport the thing from there to here
for cheap?

Rick (cuz I really need another project) Bastedo

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 19:08:50 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:08:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVftv+rc=zeUUHxsOsEsNcbFf0VfgnCnUDpv35Jx=8FuGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVftv+rc=zeUUHxsOsEsNcbFf0VfgnCnUDpv35Jx=8FuGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJKrNeRqTjgFkFKdSeGmoZ2N1-iCBF+rb8WWWrkFQ8eF4YtD9g@mail.gmail.com>

Linda & Fellow Listers,

Most pipe threads on British cars of this vintage are Whitworth threads,
British Standard Pipe (Parallel) to be specific.

Try "AH Spares" in England...

http://www.ahspares.co.uk/Default.aspx

They have exactly what you need.

http://www.ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx


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BRASS
UNION-fuel pipe olive 948CC-1098CC #1.85 28A

Cheers,

Curt

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Linda Grunthaner
<grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List
> I have been very reluctant to cut my original steel fuel line in my 62
> Sprite "Pinky" but I'm finally getting around to installing the Facet elect
> fuel pump in the rear for the 1275 engine and I think I want to just keep
> the line in tact for future use and install a copper line like most have
> done but I can't find the small nipple for the line, I can buy copper at
> the
> plumbing store for 1/2 the price Victoria British is selling the kit for so
> all I need is the threaded nipple. Can someone tell me where I can get the
> threaded nipple that goes on the copper line and then screwed to the tank
> as
> seen the image in Vicky's link (see bottom of page below)? Or is it just a
> standard plumbing size or available at a FLAPS? Also correct me is the
> female threaded part on the tank the unobtainable part or is it the male
> nipple that I'm trying to locate? I could use the old nipple but want to
> keep this one for later use.
> Lin
> http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/sm/full.aspx?Page=61
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From dwramsey at att.net  Sat Sep 10 19:54:06 2011
From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:54:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave bleed?
In-Reply-To: <20110911000038.7973C18790F@autox.team.net>
References: <C50E9E9E1A5F43F0A602C1E9CBD5D8BD@spider><1315687099.41082.YahooMailClassic@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><5830B3D0AC2E4303B35BC58E86925AC0@spider>
	<20110911000038.7973C18790F@autox.team.net>
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That is stock it is the big hole they cut to replace the rear tranny seal that
is a modification.  Best I can remember a off set boxend wrench works best.
                Crash




I seem to remember access through an opening on the
inside passenger side of the 
car, though that may have been a "modification"
Steve
Sent from me.


We cannot reach the bleeder valve; it is under the
starter and fairly close
to the outside of the passenger's footwell wall. I
sense it needs replacing
so we may pull it out, and bleed the new one before
reattaching it to the
bell housing. ...bill in corvallis

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 10 20:07:21 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:07:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] casual LBC content
In-Reply-To: <CANx9iMOfiJEu=YtgLDjRmrCYEi4_QuRTFiZDu-W4Ky5ZhM7s6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <793DCC55D4EE451D96C9630908027EB5@spider>
	<CANx9iMOfiJEu=YtgLDjRmrCYEi4_QuRTFiZDu-W4Ky5ZhM7s6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <710C92E5C4214BD4882EDE546E8E5120@spider>

That is a hood mounted tach. Housing is off of a speed boat. I raced "up on
the wheel" and having the tach on the hood meant I didn't have to focus down
onto the dash or steering column to count RPM's.  ...bill in corvallis
=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Foster [mailto:tr3.4.me at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:02 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] casual LBC content

What's the pipe coming up out of the hood, err, trunk, pointing
towards the windscreen?


On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:15 AM,  <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Subject: This is the wrap-up from Laguna Seca.
>
>
>
> My old 1965 VW beetle did very well; one-third of the 7B field didn't
> finish. Steve was accosted after the race by a driver of a British car;
> accused of being a "menace."

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 10 21:11:13 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:11:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprites & Midgets on the Silver Screen
In-Reply-To: <00d001cc6ff2$7e3f05d0$7abd1170$@net>
Message-ID: <CA9174E1.326DE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Harry O doesn't even rate a photo?

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Sep 11 13:23:02 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:23:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
Message-ID: <1238069916.1177870.1315768982298.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Last night my boy (the one with the '76 Midget) and I were talking about all the cars in the family and got on the subject of Bugeye's -- I think he started it!

We were wondering.. what would be a fair price to pay for a daily driver in good condition... wouldn't have to be 'concours' - just reliable and (hopefully) not too badly molested!

Off list replies no problem.

Thanks

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 11 13:37:03 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:37:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder replacement
In-Reply-To: <1315710986.97904.YahooMailClassic@web161422.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <5830B3D0AC2E4303B35BC58E86925AC0@spider>
	<1315710986.97904.YahooMailClassic@web161422.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D43F5CB9D5FB4EA489ADD09036C74B5D@spider>

Ok. There was an oval shaped access hole in the passenger's footwell.
We did get the slave cylinder out. It was old and the piston jammed in the
open end as it reached years of rust and gunk. 
Since the piston was traveling this far to actuate the clutch, is clutch
replacement next? There is no adjustment on the rod that sticks out of the
slave cylinder. ...bill in corvallis 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 11 13:53:41 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:53:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
In-Reply-To: <1238069916.1177870.1315768982298.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1238069916.1177870.1315768982298.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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I say $2000, give or take a little.  ...bill in corvallis
====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:23 PM
To: spridgets_autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...

Last night my boy (the one with the '76 Midget) and I were talking about all
the cars in the family and got on the subject of Bugeye's -- I think he
started it!

We were wondering.. what would be a fair price to pay for a daily driver in
good condition... wouldn't have to be 'concours' - just reliable and
(hopefully) not too badly molested!

Off list replies no problem.

Thanks

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From johnsfolly at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 13:58:46 2011
From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (John Deikis)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:58:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
Message-ID: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>

 Collier Cup all-MG race at the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a 1275
MG Midget! I think I'm going to give up racing and scrap my car.
And places 3-5 were also Midgets running in the low 2:24's and only then an
MGB.
What can you do to a 1275 that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
JohnD

Still Playing with Little Cars
www.johnsfolly.webs.com

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Sep 11 14:32:24 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:32:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <559500019.1448158.1315772522272.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1319474144.1448221.1315773144940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

It's really quite simple. Get a copy of Vizard's book on competition tuning the A Series engine. With that, and the superior handling of the Spridget, You can out run Bs all day.

Kate
'72 MG Midget that eats 280Zs for an afternoon snack

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Deikis" <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:58:46 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen

 Collier Cup all-MG race at the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a 1275
MG Midget! I think I'm going to give up racing and scrap my car.
And places 3-5 were also Midgets running in the low 2:24's and only then an
MGB.
What can you do to a 1275 that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
JohnD

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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 11 14:36:32 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:36:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
References: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DBD57821C2E49BD90B0A5BFC89271C6@spider>

Cubic dollars. Staged nitrous injection??

===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Deikis
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:59 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen

 Collier Cup all-MG race at the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a 1275
MG Midget! I think I'm going to give up racing and scrap my car.
And places 3-5 were also Midgets running in the low 2:24's and only then an
MGB.
What can you do to a 1275 that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
JohnD

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Sep 11 14:42:33 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:42:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
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> just reliable

Really?

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Sep 11 14:46:49 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:46:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
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Hello Dave,

     The way parts are going, how much people ask just for a BE
     bonnet, how much I've seen asked, (not paid) for
     projects-in-pieces, my unbiased and semi educated guess is
     ~ $3,500. for a rust free driver,give or take another
     $1000.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Sep 11 14:50:26 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:50:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
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>I say $2000, give or take a little.  ...bill in corvallis

Not around here.  You couldn't get a tub and box of parts for that.

Michael Rowe
Long Island, NY

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 11 14:50:33 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder replacement
In-Reply-To: <D43F5CB9D5FB4EA489ADD09036C74B5D@spider>
Message-ID: <CA926D29.32733%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

You can install a bleed pipe that runs up the firewall where you can reach
it. Ask Soave for details. Are you equipped to make an adjustable rod?
I thought I'd probably try that if I ever got that far with the restoration.
I put those speedbleeder nipples on everything. For brakes, they're not as
good as an assistant who understands how to bleed brakes, but they're better
than an assistant who doesn't, and certainly cheaper than a divorce. (I
learned that one the hard way)
BZ

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Sep 11 15:27:11 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:27:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
References: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F8AEFB30-2D1C-426A-A52A-C4B2608ABC68@chartermi.net>

Uh John?  The driver (that's you) can make a huge difference.  :-)

Rick
(Nigel Johnsfolly's lugnut tightener)

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 11, 2011, at 3:58 PM, John Deikis <johnsfolly at gmail.com> wrote:

> Collier Cup all-MG race at the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
> 2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a
1275
> MG Midget! I think I'm going to give up racing and scrap my car.
> And places 3-5 were also Midgets running in the low 2:24's and only then an
> MGB.
> What can you do to a 1275 that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
> JohnD
>
> Still Playing with Little Cars
> www.johnsfolly.webs.com
> _______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 11 16:29:26 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:29:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <F8AEFB30-2D1C-426A-A52A-C4B2608ABC68@chartermi.net>
References: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
	<F8AEFB30-2D1C-426A-A52A-C4B2608ABC68@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <B1A901797D214F9EA0D71F0D457E58CD@HomePC>

I'm with Rick.  The only way a 1275 is going to outrun a healthy B V8 is if 
there is a tremendous difference in driver skill.  There is way too much 
horsepower to make up there.

LAD



-----Original Message----- 
From: Rick Fisk
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:27 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen

Uh John?  The driver (that's you) can make a huge difference.  :-)

Rick
(Nigel Johnsfolly's lugnut tightener)

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 11, 2011, at 3:58 PM, John Deikis <johnsfolly at gmail.com> wrote:

> Collier Cup all-MG race at the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
> 2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a
1275
> MG Midget! I think I'm going to give up racing and scrap my car.
> And places 3-5 were also Midgets running in the low 2:24's and only then 
> an
> MGB.
> What can you do to a 1275 that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
> JohnD
>
> Still Playing with Little Cars
> www.johnsfolly.webs.com
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 11 16:34:09 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:34:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder replacement
Message-ID: <E36E7025D53E41358D669C12DBE885D2@spider>

We have a 1275 engine in a 1960 Bugeye chassis.
Where was that article about matching clutch slave rods and the like?
...bill in corvallis
==============================================

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 11 16:35:27 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:35:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
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Something like this maybe??:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2593196182.html
BillM

> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:23:02 +0000
> From: kk7ss at frontier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
>
> Last night my boy (the one with the '76 Midget) and I were talking about all
the cars in the family and got on the subject of Bugeye's -- I think he
started it!
>
> We were wondering.. what would be a fair price to pay for a daily driver in
good condition... wouldn't have to be 'concours' - just reliable and
(hopefully) not too badly molested!
>
> Off list replies no problem.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>  Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Sep 11 17:04:01 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:04:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thread about Threads Re:  Fuel line question
Message-ID: <35017.1a47b360.3b9e9860@aol.com>

Yes and no or maybe. British cars do have some BSP and BST - British  
Standard Taper or is it BSPT?  However, I don't believe BSP threads are the  same 
as Whitworth threads though I've not checked.  I think you'll find the  
early steering rack, which originated on the Morris Minor has Whitworth  
fittings.  Maybe the dampers have Whitworth threads - Peter C will know,  probably 
all this stuff is in a book when it ought to be in my head but it's  
late.......
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 - Monday and I should be in bed!
 
 
In a message dated 11/09/2011 02:35:20 GMT Daylight Time,  
cnaarndt at gmail.com writes:

Most  pipe threads on British cars of this vintage are Whitworth threads,
British  Standard Pipe (Parallel) to be specific.

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Sep 11 17:04:25 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:04:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <B1A901797D214F9EA0D71F0D457E58CD@HomePC>
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"a healthy B V8"

That's the real question... is totally set-up?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

--

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Sep 11 17:13:21 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:13:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
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Hi Bill,

Thanks, but "no thanks" :)
I think I have enough projects.. for an old man <g>

The '65 Sprite needs finishing and the '79 Minor also needs a lot of work.
Rear brake total rebuild as soon as it cools down a bit (due to my health)
And still odd bit's and pieces to do under the hood.

But that's what keeps me standing on top of the grass >GRIN>


--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Bill Masquelier" <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Something like this maybe??:
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2593196182.html

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 18:05:18 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:05:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thread about Threads Re:  Fuel line question
In-Reply-To: <35017.1a47b360.3b9e9860@aol.com>
References: <35017.1a47b360.3b9e9860@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAJKrNeQnwgZXnEda46z3S=a6UXiXs43skos79W9xPPCd0hhUkw@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgetiers

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
*<I don't believe BSP threads are the same as Whitworth threads though I've
not checked.*>

With all due respect, here is a short primer on British thread forms...

For those who aren't familiar, *by definition*, Whitworth thread forms are
those where the angle of the threads is 550 versus the 600 of most modern
threads.  Therefore the five major *Whitworth Thread Forms* include...

*British Standard Whitworth (BSW)* - On the Bugeyes, at least, you'll find
that the 5/16 X 18TPI bolt on the lower front generator bracket is this
thread form.  (This is somewhat interchangeable with UNC or SAE Coarse which
is also 18 TPI and will thread into the hole in the front generator
bracket.)
*British Standard Fine (BSF)* - Most engine, transmission & suspension bolts
on Austin Healey 100s.
*British Standard Pipe Parallel (BSP)* *or (BSPP) *- Brass drain plugs and
valves, fuel and brake line fittings on most Healeys.
*British Standard Pipe Tapered (BSPT)* - As above but tapered, not used to
my knowledge on Healeys.
*British Standard Brass (BSB)* - Used in thin walled tubing and ALL have
26TPI no matter the diameter.  The mounting post on Lucas SFT/SLT 576
driving lights would have been this thread form.

Other threads (obscure if not obsolete) that used the Whitworth 550 angle
include, British Standard Conduit (BSCon), Model Engineers (ME), and British
Standard Copper (BSCopper).

Other British Fasteners that are *NOT Whitworth* include...

*British Association (BA)* - Used in Healey instruments and fuel pumps.  47
1/20 angle of the threads.
*British Standard Cycle (BSC)* - Used on a lot of British motorcycles and
most but NOT ALL threads are 26 TPI.  The angle of the threads is 600.
Wikipedia lists BSC as Whitworth and they are WRONG.
*Cycle engineers Institute (CEI)* - Older cycle thread superseded by BSC.
The angle of the threads is 600.

The following two thread forms are what the British switched to after moving
from the Whitworth standard.  These are the majority of the fasteners used
on Spridgets.

*Unified Coarse (UNC)* - Identical to American SAE Coarse and essentially *
Interchangeable*.  The angle of the threads is 60 degrees.
*Unified Fine (UNF)* - Identical to American SAE Fine and essentially *
Interchangeable*.  The angle of the threads is 60 degrees.

Cheers,

Curt


On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  Yes and no or maybe. British cars do have some BSP and BST - British
> Standard Taper or is it BSPT?  However, I don't believe BSP threads are the
> same as Whitworth threads though I've not checked.  I think you'll find the
> early steering rack, which originated on the Morris Minor has Whitworth
> fittings.  Maybe the dampers have Whitworth threads - Peter C will know,
> probably all this stuff is in a book when it ought to be in my head but
it's
> late.......
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330 - Monday and I should be in bed!
>
>
> In a message dated 11/09/2011 02:35:20 GMT Daylight Time,
> cnaarndt at gmail.com writes:
>
> Most pipe threads on British cars of this vintage are Whitworth threads,
> British Standard Pipe (Parallel) to be specific.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 11 19:10:23 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:10:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder replacement
Message-ID: <42E00D514311424EBE482531A784C40B@spider>

Found it. Thanks to all ...bill
http://brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm

=============================================
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:34 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder replacement

We have a 1275 engine in a 1960 Bugeye chassis.
Where was that article about matching clutch slave rods and the like?
...bill in corvallis
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From bkitterer at me.com  Sun Sep 11 19:40:00 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:40:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Auto Show - little LBC
Message-ID: <DEE0E1B4-F1C8-4B76-B21C-8D4319DDA250@me.com>

Made a brief  stop today at our local car show to support the Auto Museum.  Very little in the LBC group but there is an "interesting" VW and quite a mix of cars.  This link should get you to the pictures -  if you get to the first page with my cars just click on sdccc auto show to change pages.

http://web.me.com/bkitterer/Bobs_Stuff/SDCCC_Auto_Show.html

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

From bkitterer at me.com  Sun Sep 11 19:48:42 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:48:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket
Message-ID: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com>

Also on my rounds today was a stop to lend a hand with a young fellows 66' Sprite.  It was thought that he had a carb problem but by the time I arrived it had been determined that he currently had a 2 cylinder engine. So off came the head to discover that the head gasket was blown out between numbers 1 and 2 cylinders.  Now comes the real question, the engine was recently rebuilt and only has a 150 mile, what would cause a blow out of almost on inch of head gasket?  I know it has been discussed in recent times about what is the best head gasket but my being mobile sort of limits what and how much data I can keep or access.  It would be nice if I could make a good suggestion before they just order one from the usual source.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 11 20:03:27 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:03:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
References: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315793007.18442.YahooMailNeo@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I passed a Sunbeam Tiger on the outside of the Carousel today...that's one
way.

 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
>________________________________
>From: John Deikis <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:58 PM
>Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
>
>Collier Cup all-MG race at
the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
>2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a
BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a 1275
>MG Midget! I think I'm
going to give up racing and scrap my car.
>And places 3-5 were also Midgets
running in the low 2:24's and only then an
>MGB.
>What can you do to a 1275
that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
>JohnD
>
>Still Playing with Little Cars
>www.johnsfolly.webs.com
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 20:21:22 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:21:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends.
Message-ID: <CABWjhc+A5n_CsV2jfxrgKLM4gGVSHgJR4FGkec5R8jfyoXdmiQ@mail.gmail.com>

Near your area, and drivable:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2593894846.html

Already has a 5 speed in it.

RickB

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 11 20:25:29 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:25:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
 replacement
In-Reply-To: <42E00D514311424EBE482531A784C40B@spider>
Message-ID: <CA92BBA9.1B7B1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I'm not disputing any of this, but what about all the people who are running
7/8" master cylinders with disc brakes and tell me it works fine?  How much
difference does it make with a 1098 clutch? 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 11 20:33:50 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:33:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <1315793007.18442.YahooMailNeo@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
	<1315793007.18442.YahooMailNeo@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2CE2DAB7A37B4D548EE91E40AC706C8D@HomePC>

Yeah, but a Tiger has a 260 or a 289, not a 215!  LOL!

You also had another personal best time at Road America.  Congratulations, 
again!

Damn guy's gettin' good!


LAD


-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Soave
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:03 PM
To: John Deikis ; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen

I passed a Sunbeam Tiger on the outside of the Carousel today...that's one
way.


RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
>________________________________
>From: John Deikis <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:58 PM
>Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
>
>Collier Cup all-MG race at
the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
>2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a
BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a 1275
>MG Midget! I think I'm
going to give up racing and scrap my car.
>And places 3-5 were also Midgets
running in the low 2:24's and only then an
>MGB.
>What can you do to a 1275
that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
>JohnD
>
>Still Playing with Little Cars
>www.johnsfolly.webs.com
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 11 20:37:57 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:37:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket
In-Reply-To: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com>
References: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com>
Message-ID: <940195B19AC146CA84C45E54EB03F30B@spider>

Maybe someone didn't know what they were doing?
The head was not checked for flatness? Head not torqued correctly?
Poor quality head gasket? 
I had a 1500 1969 Datsun head job not go right. The next time around I used
Copper Coat Gasket Compound (spray can) on both sides of the head gasket and
torqued the head bolts an extra 10 ft-pounds over spec. I needed this
vehicle and just did what I had to do. ..bill
=================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:49 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket

Also on my rounds today was a stop to lend a hand with a young fellows 66'
Sprite.  It was thought that he had a carb problem but by the time I arrived
it had been determined that he currently had a 2 cylinder engine. So off
came the head to discover that the head gasket was blown out between numbers
1 and 2 cylinders.  Now comes the real question, the engine was recently
rebuilt and only has a 150 mile, what would cause a blow out of almost on
inch of head gasket?  I know it has been discussed in recent times about
what is the best head gasket but my being mobile sort of limits what and how
much data I can keep or access.  It would be nice if I could make a good
suggestion before they just order one from the usual source.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 20:49:27 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:49:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket
In-Reply-To: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com>
References: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAM6-RjcXCGivQ8LkkcMqh1Mp=1uL294Lj9phP-4w_44g18b4oQ@mail.gmail.com>

Was the head re-torqued after a couple of heat cycles?
Hal

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> Also on my rounds today was a stop to lend a hand with a young fellows 66'
> Sprite.  It was thought that he had a carb problem but by the time I arrived
> it had been determined that he currently had a 2 cylinder engine. So off
> came the head to discover that the head gasket was blown out between numbers
> 1 and 2 cylinders.  Now comes the real question, the engine was recently
> rebuilt and only has a 150 mile, what would cause a blow out of almost on
> inch of head gasket?  I know it has been discussed in recent times about
> what is the best head gasket but my being mobile sort of limits what and how
> much data I can keep or access.  It would be nice if I could make a good
> suggestion before they just order one from the usual source.
>
> Bob Kitterer and Dolores
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> _______________________________________________
>
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From johnsfolly at gmail.com  Sun Sep 11 21:12:27 2011
From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (John Deikis)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
Message-ID: <5D755012-7DE5-4162-8A6B-1AD74227513A@gmail.com>

Okay, to be fair, Munoz's V8 was just barely finished up and certainly not
sorted. Perhaps he was also holding back on a brand new engine, although
that's a lot of restraint when  you're 10 car lengths behind a Spridget and
your hood looks like the snorkel on a greaser's Chevelle on Friday night
behind the Dairy Queen. He's considered a pretty good driver and Guest is
considered VERY good...but still. I like the nitrous idea.
--JohnD
Still Playing with Little Cars
www.johnsfolly.webs.com

From bkitterer at me.com  Sun Sep 11 21:15:35 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:15:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-RjcXCGivQ8LkkcMqh1Mp=1uL294Lj9phP-4w_44g18b4oQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com>
	<CAM6-RjcXCGivQ8LkkcMqh1Mp=1uL294Lj9phP-4w_44g18b4oQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B9B2936C-270E-49FB-8420-AC3A9BBC4A67@me.com>

Good question.  The young fellow just recently acquired the car and someone had done the rebuild.  I have only been back in town a couple of weeks and came on stream this week when a club member gave me a call to see if I was available today, so there is a lot that I do not know.  It will get done this time.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote:

> Was the head re-torqued after a couple of heat cycles?
> Hal
> 
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:
> Also on my rounds today was a stop to lend a hand with a young fellows 66' Sprite.  It was thought that he had a carb problem but by the time I arrived it had been determined that he currently had a 2 cylinder engine. So off came the head to discover that the head gasket was blown out between numbers 1 and 2 cylinders.  Now comes the real question, the engine was recently rebuilt and only has a 150 mile, what would cause a blow out of almost on inch of head gasket?  I know it has been discussed in recent times about what is the best head gasket but my being mobile sort of limits what and how much data I can keep or access.  It would be nice if I could make a good suggestion before they just order one from the usual source.
> 
> Bob Kitterer and Dolores
> 
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> _______________________________________________
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 11 21:50:58 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:50:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <2CE2DAB7A37B4D548EE91E40AC706C8D@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CA92CFB2.1B7C4%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> What can you do to a 1275
> that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
Keep the 215 in a Buick?

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Sep 11 21:57:46 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:57:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
Message-ID: <1408984394.1182235.1315799866067.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Is there a special adaptor that lets the Datsun 5-speed tranny connect to a BugEye speedo? 
Or is there more that has to be done?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Sun Sep 11 23:26:52 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:26:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <1408984394.1182235.1315799866067.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1408984394.1182235.1315799866067.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <000801cc710c$94321c40$bc9654c0$@austin.rr.com>

Gerard has a cable that will connect the 5spd Datsun speedometer drive to a
Spridget speedo. http://www.gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/5speedKit.htm 
Rivergate has a reduction gear and a speedo cable.
http://www.rivergate5speed.com/pricelist.html 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:58 PM
To: spridgets_autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.

Is there a special adaptor that lets the Datsun 5-speed tranny connect to a
BugEye speedo? 
Or is there more that has to be done?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 04:21:49 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:21:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeRqTjgFkFKdSeGmoZ2N1-iCBF+rb8WWWrkFQ8eF4YtD9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVftv+rc=zeUUHxsOsEsNcbFf0VfgnCnUDpv35Jx=8FuGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJKrNeRqTjgFkFKdSeGmoZ2N1-iCBF+rb8WWWrkFQ8eF4YtD9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVcNJhdduQ-HBt4UwMuTs92ev1NnFnyY_=4FHhEpRsGXyg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks List for clarification on the unobtainable parts both male & female
gas tank parts. I emailed the link Curt sent as to buying that male fitting
but haven't a reply yet. If this is unobtainable why would AH Spares have
it? Being it is a Wintworth thread why hasn't some company come up with a
retro-fitting by now especially being that they are raced? If unobtainable
what is this that Curt sent?

http://www.ahspares.co.uk/products/productdetail.aspx?GUID=29bca936-eac0-46b3
-8282-a9bb8505fe87

Also I emailed Brooklandsmg as per a memo sent via a UK member on Early
Spridgets on Facebook and I'll keep all informed. I just don't understand
why this would be so difficult to obtain it is only brass and cut threads?

http://brooklandsmg.co.uk/
Lin

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:

> Linda & Fellow Listers,
>
> Most pipe threads on British cars of this vintage are Whitworth threads,
> British Standard Pipe (Parallel) to be specific.
>
> Try "AH Spares" in England...
>
> http://www.ahspares.co.uk/Default.aspx
>
> They have exactly what you need.
>
> http://www.ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx
>
>
> * [image: Add To
Cart]<http://www.ahspares.co.uk/products/addtocart.aspx?GUID=29bca936-eac0-46
b3-8282-a9bb8505fe87&returnurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ahspares.co.uk%2fproducts%2fp
roductlist.aspx%3fselProduct%3dXFUL%26selCar%3dSprite%26hCar%3dSprite%26txtSe
arch%3dPart+No+%2f+Keyword%26anchor%3d%3fselProduct%3dXFUL%26selCar%3dSprite%
26hCar%3dSprite>
> *
XFUL131<http://www.ahspares.co.uk/products/productdetail.aspx?GUID=29bca936-e
ac0-46b3-8282-a9bb8505fe87> BRASS
> UNION-fuel pipe olive 948CC-1098CC #1.85 28A
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Linda Grunthaner
<grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> List
>> I have been very reluctant to cut my original steel fuel line in my 62
>> Sprite "Pinky" but I'm finally getting around to installing the Facet
>> elect
>> fuel pump in the rear for the 1275 engine and I think I want to just keep
>> the line in tact for future use and install a copper line like most have
>> done but I can't find the small nipple for the line, I can buy copper at
>> the
>> plumbing store for 1/2 the price Victoria British is selling the kit for
>> so
>> all I need is the threaded nipple. Can someone tell me where I can get the
>> threaded nipple that goes on the copper line and then screwed to the tank
>> as
>> seen the image in Vicky's link (see bottom of page below)? Or is it just a
>> standard plumbing size or available at a FLAPS? Also correct me is the
>> female threaded part on the tank the unobtainable part or is it the male
>> nipple that I'm trying to locate? I could use the old nipple but want to
>> keep this one for later use.
>> Lin
>> http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/sm/full.aspx?Page=61
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 12 05:29:31 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:29:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-RjcXCGivQ8LkkcMqh1Mp=1uL294Lj9phP-4w_44g18b4oQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com>
	<CAM6-RjcXCGivQ8LkkcMqh1Mp=1uL294Lj9phP-4w_44g18b4oQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77389E54D7CA4C1A9F6AF0D3FFD42162@spider>

Is that still being done?  ...bill in corvallis
======================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hal Faulkner
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:49 PM
To: Kitterer Bob
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Gasket

Was the head re-torqued after a couple of heat cycles?
Hal
===============================
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> Also on my rounds today was a stop to lend a hand with a young fellows 66'
> Sprite.  It was thought that he had a carb problem but by the time I
arrived
> it had been determined that he currently had a 2 cylinder engine. So off
> came the head to discover that the head gasket was blown out between
numbers
> 1 and 2 cylinders.  Now comes the real question, the engine was recently
> rebuilt and only has a 150 mile, what would cause a blow out of almost on
> inch of head gasket?  I know it has been discussed in recent times about
> what is the best head gasket but my being mobile sort of limits what and
how
> much data I can keep or access.  It would be nice if I could make a good
> suggestion before they just order one from the usual source.
>
> Bob Kitterer and Dolores
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> _______________________________________________
>
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 12 06:20:43 2011
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <5D755012-7DE5-4162-8A6B-1AD74227513A@gmail.com>
References: <5D755012-7DE5-4162-8A6B-1AD74227513A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315830043.63054.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

2:22 on the Watkins Glen long course is a good lap for a vintage spec
Spridget, but to put it in perspective, my 948 Sprite set the lap record at a
2:22 back in 1984. Dan Collishaw's 948 Sprite owns the lap record these days
with a 2:17.5. My times were pre-inner loop, but that doesn't slow good
handling small bore cars very much.  Momentum is the key. You don't need as
much torque if you don't slow down!
John
Fogelsville, PA
________________________________
From: John Deikis <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
To:
spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:12 PM
Subject:
Re: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen

Okay, to be fair, Munoz's V8 was just
barely finished up and certainly not
sorted. Perhaps he was also holding back
on a brand new engine, although
that's a lot of restraint when  you're 10 car
lengths behind a Spridget and
your hood looks like the snorkel on a greaser's
Chevelle on Friday night
behind the Dairy Queen. He's considered a pretty good
driver and Guest is
considered VERY good...but still. I like the nitrous idea.
--JohnD
Still Playing with Little Cars
www.johnsfolly.webs.com

From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Sep 12 06:28:23 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:28:23 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket
References: <169E20E1-A497-4F32-AF8C-200777CF8E2A@me.com><CAM6-RjcXCGivQ8LkkcMqh1Mp=1uL294Lj9phP-4w_44g18b4oQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<77389E54D7CA4C1A9F6AF0D3FFD42162@spider>
Message-ID: <428519B813164050B8E114F70DC0953A@user8634b3d69b>

If you don't, you can get the head gasket blowing.....  (LOL)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Gasket


> Is that still being done?  ...bill in corvallis
> ======================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hal Faulkner
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:49 PM
> To: Kitterer Bob
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Gasket
>
> Was the head re-torqued after a couple of heat cycles?
> Hal
> ===============================
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:
>
>> Also on my rounds today was a stop to lend a hand with a young fellows 
>> 66'
>> Sprite.  It was thought that he had a carb problem but by the time I
> arrived
>> it had been determined that he currently had a 2 cylinder engine. So off
>> came the head to discover that the head gasket was blown out between
> numbers
>> 1 and 2 cylinders.  Now comes the real question, the engine was recently
>> rebuilt and only has a 150 mile, what would cause a blow out of almost on
>> inch of head gasket?  I know it has been discussed in recent times about
>> what is the best head gasket but my being mobile sort of limits what and
> how
>> much data I can keep or access.  It would be nice if I could make a good
>> suggestion before they just order one from the usual source.
>>
>> Bob Kitterer and Dolores
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 07:39:24 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:39:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 1962 Sprite, BRASS UNION-fuel pipe
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVcGjiOBwY9nzU9oDKygzWGL62CA=+ydJOXZn7+gUf-LsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc_-V-ymGMbBw+BzBo6hNAj-Brck_kfUyFxe738GZppCA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEd1_W9zHt1nFFt=AyiLKtho2-WXH_yb9Hatka=+M5fv48WBew@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL0QtVcGjiOBwY9nzU9oDKygzWGL62CA=+ydJOXZn7+gUf-LsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfWYSXK-ycUOY7HnTvowL3oZ6fWmjBmWM=cRwK8TrQNrA@mail.gmail.com>

List I received this message from Brooklands MG parts regarding the male
fuel fitting to tank.
I'm ordering a few and I'll let you know what I think.
Lin

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: 1962 Sprite, BRASS UNION-fuel pipe
To: Lyn Holmes <brooklands.mg at virgin.net>


Hi Lyn,
Can I order 3 of them so I can have 2 spares? Below is my address for the
shipping. How can I make the purchase, paypal or credit card if a credit
card do you have a secured site?
Thanks Linda

Also will my tank require a special flair other than standard plumbing
flair?
Linda Grunthaner
78 Parker Avenue
Little Silver, New Jersey, USA
07739


On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Lyn Holmes <brooklands.mg at virgin.net>wrote:

> Hi Linda
> I have a special type of nut for the end of the fuel pipe that threads into
> the tank my part no is AHA7381spec, retails at #3, postage will be about #3
> to the USA, all I would need is your name address, contact number/email and
> of course mastercard or visa.  Post is standard airmail so would take quite
> a few days
> Best regards
> Lyn
> --
> Brooklands MG
> Unit 10 Barbour Gardens
> Dunmurry
> BELFAST
> BT17 9AB
> Tel: +44 2890 301430
> Fax: +44 2890 628348
> Email: brooklands.mg at virgin.net
> www: brooklandsmg.co.uk
> 3
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Linda Grunthaner
<grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi I am located in the US and need the nut which attaches to the steel
>> fuel line and into the fuel tank of my 62 Sprite. I was told by a UK
Sprite
>> restorer you may have it?
>>
>> I have also been told they are unobtainable which is true?
>> Thanks Linda Grunthaner
>>
>>
>>  http://brooklandsmg.co.uk/8.html

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 07:41:02 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:41:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends.
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhc+A5n_CsV2jfxrgKLM4gGVSHgJR4FGkec5R8jfyoXdmiQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhc+A5n_CsV2jfxrgKLM4gGVSHgJR4FGkec5R8jfyoXdmiQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Great price too!
Lin

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Near your area, and drivable:
>
> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2593894846.html
>
> Already has a 5 speed in it.
>
> RickB
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 07:42:45 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:42:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
In-Reply-To: <626287FD46654821BDE58C4DB85F2B91@Home>
References: <1238069916.1177870.1315768982298.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<A5D1EBD3EB1F4330920FF18A2CDB7A5C@spider>
	<626287FD46654821BDE58C4DB85F2B91@Home>
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Everything is cheaper in the West.
Lin

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> I say $2000, give or take a little.  ...bill in corvallis
>>
>
> Not around here.  You couldn't get a tub and box of parts for that.
>
> Michael Rowe
> Long Island, NY
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 07:50:31 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:50:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] casual LBC content
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Very cool what is under the hood 1500 or 1600 duel or single port?
Lin

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:15 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Subject: This is the wrap-up from Laguna Seca.
>
>
>
> My old 1965 VW beetle did very well; one-third of the 7B field didn't
> finish. Steve was accosted after the race by a driver of a British car;
> accused of being a "menace."
>
> This is an on-track picture.
>
>
> http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318667_1993063502330_11156746
> 09_31752654_952079907_n.jpg
>
>
>
> This is a short video in the pits.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCdg05cJ_o4
>
>
>
> This is the wrap-up from Laguna Seca; lots of exotic cars plus a Chrysler
> #43
>
>
> http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/08/26/event-gt-gt-rolex-historics-wrap-
> up.aspx
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From pvanwig at me.com  Mon Sep 12 08:10:14 2011
From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:10:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
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how much work can a "79" Minor need ; )
On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:

Hi Bill,

Thanks, but "no thanks" :)
I think I have enough projects.. for an old man <g>

The '65 Sprite needs finishing and the '79 Minor also needs a lot of work.
Rear brake total rebuild as soon as it cools down a bit (due to my health)
And still odd bit's and pieces to do under the hood.

But that's what keeps me standing on top of the grass >GRIN>


--
Dave G  KK7SS
Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Bill Masquelier" <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Something like this maybe??:
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2593196182.html
_______________________________________________

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 12 08:35:06 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:35:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
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The easiest/cheapest way is to use a Datsun speedo cable, cut off the metal
sleeve and threaded nut nearest the speedo,use a piece of 7/16 ID plastic
tubine (Tygon) and two fuelline clamps to connect them.
This will give you the connection but the speedo will read 80% of your true
speed.
The better way is to use the Rivergate cable gearbox and proper cable (around
$150 total I think)
BillM

> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:57:46 +0000
> From: kk7ss at frontier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
>
> Is there a special adaptor that lets the Datsun 5-speed tranny connect to a
BugEye speedo?
> Or is there more that has to be done?
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>  Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Mon Sep 12 08:46:19 2011
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:46:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye test drive
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP4mq_JvEDUGg9MToWycZgKJeaGFQSqfJXPtfx2zxtbLVg@mail.gmail.com>

Went for a test drive or two yesterday while I'm waiting on insurance.  Most
of the fluids stayed where they were supposed to.  You can see a video here:

http://24.73.224.142/bugeye/mvi_1473.mov

Not terribly exciting for most of you I'm sure, but pretty cool for me.
 I've had this car now for 4 or 5 years and am just now getting it
roadworthy.  The PO did all the body work and had it painted a crappy color
of red.  It looks better in the video than in person.  As you can see, they
painted everything in the engine bay they didn't feel like removing or
taping up.  I refurbed the interior, steering wheel, dash, gas tank, and
radiator. Installed new wiring, all new hydraulics and wheel cylinders.
You might also notice the seats don't look so great with the red exterior.
 My plan is to drive it for bit, then I'm going to strip it down, fix some
of the PO's body work and paint it black.  Then the seat color will look as
I intended.

Looks like everything is working in the dash now except the odometer.  I
think it is running rich but I still need to go over the timing, carbs,
adjust valves, etc. and give it a good lube job, but it runs quite well.
 And I'm going to have to dig back into the clutch.  It seems to shift OK,
but the pedal is not right with about 3 inches of play at the top.  It also
feels really stiff.  First I'll have to fix that Chinese floor jack so I can
get under it again.

Cheers,
Heard

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Sep 12 09:12:29 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:12:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
In-Reply-To: <1315793007.18442.YahooMailNeo@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <208BC5B4-7482-47F9-84DE-418FFA4FD234@gmail.com>
	<1315793007.18442.YahooMailNeo@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E6E215D.6060706@wi.net>

All right!!  Glad the clutch got sorted.  Wish I woulda been there 
Sunday.  You're getting closer to the dentist!!

Dave W.



On 9/11/2011 9:03 PM, Ron Soave wrote:
> I passed a Sunbeam Tiger on the outside of the Carousel today...that's one
> way.
>
>
> RS
> "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
>> ________________________________
>> From: John Deikis<johnsfolly at gmail.com>
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:58 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Collier Cup at the Glen
>>
>> Collier Cup all-MG race at
> the Glen yesterday. Hold your hat: 2nd place,
>> 2:22.524 Dave Munoz in a
> BGT-V8. 1st place, 2:21.724 Charles Guest in a 1275
>> MG Midget! I think I'm
> going to give up racing and scrap my car.
>> And places 3-5 were also Midgets
> running in the low 2:24's and only then an
>> MGB.
>> What can you do to a 1275
> that makes it outrun a 215 c.i. V-8?
>> JohnD
>>
>> Still Playing with Little Cars
>> www.johnsfolly.webs.com
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Mon Sep 12 09:36:50 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:36:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] It never ends...
In-Reply-To: <1012DB16-329C-4EF2-B9F6-5896559587D3@me.com>
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Ooops!! Fat Fingers Fred Strikes again  <Grin>
I should have type '59'.....   but you already knew that :) 

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Paul Van Wig" <pvanwig at me.com> wrote:

> how much work can a "79" Minor need ; )

From skemple at tidewater.net  Mon Sep 12 10:20:52 2011
From: skemple at tidewater.net (Steven Kemple)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:20:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
Message-ID: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>

Hi all

I'm a new lister, but not new to LBC's.  I acquired a 61 Bugeye recently and
have been working on brake problems ever since.  Seemed O.K. when I did the
test drive but the brakes seemed weak and the pedal very hard.  I chalked it
up to not being used to 4 wheel drum brakes.

On the first drive after delivery the rear brakes locked up.  Changed the rear
cylinders.  Then the front brakes locked up.  After extensive review of the
archives and discussions with the PO it appears that the car had a newly
rebuilt Master Cylinder and ended up with the wrong push rod resulting in no
free movement.  That has been corrected.  Even after a fairly short drive with
the locked up front brakes, the shoes and cylinders looked pretty much trashed
so I changed them ( shoes and Lockeed type cylinders from Moss).  I have two
problems that I have been struggling with for days.  First, the right front
wheel drum is very tight with the adjusters completely unadjusted.  I can see
no difference in parts.  I even tried changing the shoes and drums from the
left side with no difference.  The other problem is that I can not get a hard
pedal.  I can not detect any leaks and no bubbles when bleeding.  I am using
the wife assist bleed method.  I can pump up the pedal a bit but it is not
close to right.  I let it sit for a couple of days and still no change.  The
front flexible lines are new and the rear one looks new.  Isolation of the
flexible lines has not pointed to a specific problem.  The only other thing to
add is that at one front wheel I found a small amount of fluid inside the drum
back plate but could not detect from where.  I thought it may have been a run
away drip from the bleeding process.  Could it be a hair line crack in a new
wheel cylinder?  I have read just about every brake posting on the archives
looking for an answer.  Any thoughts?

Steve Kemple

AN5

From grbyrns at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 10:25:01 2011
From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:25:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W101814DC5F1E7E3903A297CA020@phx.gbl>
References: <1408984394.1182235.1315799866067.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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Paul used to sell a right angle geared adaptor that fit the datsun trans and
the sprite cable. He provided the gears to correct for your gearing/diff/tire
combo.

Glen Byrns



> The easiest/cheapest way is to use a Datsun speedo cable, cut off the metal
> sleeve and threaded nut nearest the speedo,use a piece of 7/16 ID plastic
> tubine (Tygon) and two fuelline clamps to connect them.
> This will give you the connection but the speedo will read 80% of your true
> speed.
> The better way is to use the Rivergate cable gearbox and proper cable
(around
> $150 total I think)
> BillM
>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:57:46 +0000
>> From: kk7ss at frontier.com
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
>>
>> Is there a special adaptor that lets the Datsun 5-speed tranny connect to
a
> BugEye speedo?
>> Or is there more that has to be done?
>>
>> --
>> Dave G  KK7SS
>> Richland, WA
>>
>> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
>> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
>> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep 12 10:43:20 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
In-Reply-To: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
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You bought your parts from Mo$$. That could explain some of your problems. All the parts you need area readily available at NAPA, and are far less likely to come with pre-existing problems.

Kate
'72 MG Midget




----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Kemple" <skemple at tidewater.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:20:52 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems

Hi all

I'm a new lister, but not new to LBC's.  I acquired a 61 Bugeye recently and
have been working on brake problems ever since.  Seemed O.K. when I did the
test drive but the brakes seemed weak and the pedal very hard.  I chalked it
up to not being used to 4 wheel drum brakes.

On the first drive after delivery the rear brakes locked up.  Changed the rear
cylinders.  Then the front brakes locked up.  After extensive review of the
archives and discussions with the PO it appears that the car had a newly
rebuilt Master Cylinder and ended up with the wrong push rod resulting in no
free movement.  That has been corrected.  Even after a fairly short drive with
the locked up front brakes, the shoes and cylinders looked pretty much trashed
so I changed them ( shoes and Lockeed type cylinders from Moss).  I have two
problems that I have been struggling with for days.  First, the right front
wheel drum is very tight with the adjusters completely unadjusted.  I can see
no difference in parts.  I even tried changing the shoes and drums from the
left side with no difference.  The other problem is that I can not get a hard
pedal.  I can not detect any leaks and no bubbles when bleeding.  I am using
the wife assist bleed method.  I can pump up the pedal a bit but it is not
close to right.  I let it sit for a couple of days and still no change.  The
front flexible lines are new and the rear one looks new.  Isolation of the
flexible lines has not pointed to a specific problem.  The only other thing to
add is that at one front wheel I found a small amount of fluid inside the drum
back plate but could not detect from where.  I thought it may have been a run
away drip from the bleeding process.  Could it be a hair line crack in a new
wheel cylinder?  I have read just about every brake posting on the archives
looking for an answer.  Any thoughts?

Steve Kemple

AN5
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 10:45:53 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:45:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
In-Reply-To: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
References: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
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I think you just answered your own question " and the rear one looks new".
The list always taught me to replace all rubber lines with "new" regardless
how good they look.
Just my 2 cents.
Lin

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Steven Kemple <skemple at tidewater.net>wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'm a new lister, but not new to LBC's.  I acquired a 61 Bugeye recently
> and
> have been working on brake problems ever since.  Seemed O.K. when I did the
> test drive but the brakes seemed weak and the pedal very hard.  I chalked
> it
> up to not being used to 4 wheel drum brakes.
>
> On the first drive after delivery the rear brakes locked up.  Changed the
> rear
> cylinders.  Then the front brakes locked up.  After extensive review of the
> archives and discussions with the PO it appears that the car had a newly
> rebuilt Master Cylinder and ended up with the wrong push rod resulting in
> no
> free movement.  That has been corrected.  Even after a fairly short drive
> with
> the locked up front brakes, the shoes and cylinders looked pretty much
> trashed
> so I changed them ( shoes and Lockeed type cylinders from Moss).  I have
> two
> problems that I have been struggling with for days.  First, the right front
> wheel drum is very tight with the adjusters completely unadjusted.  I can
> see
> no difference in parts.  I even tried changing the shoes and drums from the
> left side with no difference.  The other problem is that I can not get a
> hard
> pedal.  I can not detect any leaks and no bubbles when bleeding.  I am
> using
> the wife assist bleed method.  I can pump up the pedal a bit but it is not
> close to right.  I let it sit for a couple of days and still no change.
>  The
> front flexible lines are new and the rear one looks new.  Isolation of the
> flexible lines has not pointed to a specific problem.  The only other thing
> to
> add is that at one front wheel I found a small amount of fluid inside the
> drum
> back plate but could not detect from where.  I thought it may have been a
> run
> away drip from the bleeding process.  Could it be a hair line crack in a
> new
> wheel cylinder?  I have read just about every brake posting on the archives
> looking for an answer.  Any thoughts?
>
> Steve Kemple
>
> AN5
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 11:47:51 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:47:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
In-Reply-To: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
References: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1315849693.6963.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Steve,

Did you see the recent post with the link to MG/AH brake master rebuild specs? From memory, on the sight they indicate that correct masters for early sprites are hard to get. The issue is the bore size. 

That could be part of your problem. I assume you are using the original single unit with a single brake master and clutch master combined.

If the car is not original this could be a good excuse to upgrade to discs up front. 
Good Luck and welcome to the board.
Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Kemple <skemple at tidewater.net>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:20:52 
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems

Hi all

I'm a new lister, but not new to LBC's.  I acquired a 61 Bugeye recently and
have been working on brake problems ever since.  Seemed O.K. when I did the
test drive but the brakes seemed weak and the pedal very hard.  I chalked it
up to not being used to 4 wheel drum brakes.

On the first drive after delivery the rear brakes locked up.  Changed the rear
cylinders.  Then the front brakes locked up.  After extensive review of the
archives and discussions with the PO it appears that the car had a newly
rebuilt Master Cylinder and ended up with the wrong push rod resulting in no
free movement.  That has been corrected.  Even after a fairly short drive with
the locked up front brakes, the shoes and cylinders looked pretty much trashed
so I changed them ( shoes and Lockeed type cylinders from Moss).  I have two
problems that I have been struggling with for days.  First, the right front
wheel drum is very tight with the adjusters completely unadjusted.  I can see
no difference in parts.  I even tried changing the shoes and drums from the
left side with no difference.  The other problem is that I can not get a hard
pedal.  I can not detect any leaks and no bubbles when bleeding.  I am using
the wife assist bleed method.  I can pump up the pedal a bit but it is not
close to right.  I let it sit for a couple of days and still no change.  The
front flexible lines are new and the rear one looks new.  Isolation of the
flexible lines has not pointed to a specific problem.  The only other thing to
add is that at one front wheel I found a small amount of fluid inside the drum
back plate but could not detect from where.  I thought it may have been a run
away drip from the bleeding process.  Could it be a hair line crack in a new
wheel cylinder?  I have read just about every brake posting on the archives
looking for an answer.  Any thoughts?

Steve Kemple

AN5
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 12:00:35 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:00:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
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Does anyone know of these are being sold by another entity, other than
Rivergate that is?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul used to sell a right angle geared adaptor that fit the datsun trans
> and
> the sprite cable. He provided the gears to correct for your
> gearing/diff/tire
> combo.
>
> Glen Byrns
>
>
>
> > The easiest/cheapest way is to use a Datsun speedo cable, cut off the
> metal
> > sleeve and threaded nut nearest the speedo,use a piece of 7/16 ID plastic
> > tubine (Tygon) and two fuelline clamps to connect them.
> > This will give you the connection but the speedo will read 80% of your
> true
> > speed.
> > The better way is to use the Rivergate cable gearbox and proper cable
> (around
> > $150 total I think)
> > BillM
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:57:46 +0000
> >> From: kk7ss at frontier.com
> >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> >> Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
> >>
> >> Is there a special adaptor that lets the Datsun 5-speed tranny connect
> to
> a
> > BugEye speedo?
> >> Or is there more that has to be done?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave G  KK7SS
> >> Richland, WA
> >>
> >> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> >> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> >> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> >> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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From bkitterer at me.com  Mon Sep 12 12:05:08 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:05:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
In-Reply-To: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
References: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
Message-ID: <BE70687D-CC32-41B7-8F52-E9E39DBEC24D@me.com>

Steve,

Have the drums been turned? - that is are they round.  Second have the shoes been arced to match the drums?  When these steps are done a set of shoes and a drum are then a matched pair - that is unless they are all the same diameter.  If neither or only one of these have been done you may be "dragging" the ends of the shoes on the drums making it impossible to do a proper adjustment.  Just a thought.


Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Steven Kemple wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> I'm a new lister, but not new to LBC's.  I acquired a 61 Bugeye recently and
> have been working on brake problems ever since.  Seemed O.K. when I did the
> test drive but the brakes seemed weak and the pedal very hard.  I chalked it
> up to not being used to 4 wheel drum brakes.
> 
> On the first drive after delivery the rear brakes locked up.  Changed the rear
> cylinders.  Then the front brakes locked up.  After extensive review of the
> archives and discussions with the PO it appears that the car had a newly
> rebuilt Master Cylinder and ended up with the wrong push rod resulting in no
> free movement.  That has been corrected.  Even after a fairly short drive with
> the locked up front brakes, the shoes and cylinders looked pretty much trashed
> so I changed them ( shoes and Lockeed type cylinders from Moss).  I have two
> problems that I have been struggling with for days.  First, the right front
> wheel drum is very tight with the adjusters completely unadjusted.  I can see
> no difference in parts.  I even tried changing the shoes and drums from the
> left side with no difference.  The other problem is that I can not get a hard
> pedal.  I can not detect any leaks and no bubbles when bleeding.  I am using
> the wife assist bleed method.  I can pump up the pedal a bit but it is not
> close to right.  I let it sit for a couple of days and still no change.  The
> front flexible lines are new and the rear one looks new.  Isolation of the
> flexible lines has not pointed to a specific problem.  The only other thing to
> add is that at one front wheel I found a small amount of fluid inside the drum
> back plate but could not detect from where.  I thought it may have been a run
> away drip from the bleeding process.  Could it be a hair line crack in a new
> wheel cylinder?  I have read just about every brake posting on the archives
> looking for an answer.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Steve Kemple
> 
> AN5
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Mon Sep 12 14:23:51 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:23:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] From Hagerty: Why and how Ethanol is killing our cars..
Message-ID: <1897990702.1191212.1315859031314.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/Current-news/2011/08/24/Kernel-Knowledge-One-man-on-a-mission?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=email&utm_term=&utm_content=Client&utm_campaign=Hagerty%20News-September

or tinyurl

http://tinyurl.com/3fyecp5

--
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 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 12 14:25:21 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:25:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r-iWAUa08-G46gBBQabC8kPXBGGY-dXXH9OMbn4gF5ZDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1408984394.1182235.1315799866067.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<SNT123-W101814DC5F1E7E3903A297CA020@phx.gbl>
	<E6E3A986-B299-4DFC-A7CB-4340171A51D3@gmail.com>
	<CABQj3r-iWAUa08-G46gBBQabC8kPXBGGY-dXXH9OMbn4gF5ZDA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A1A11C2B-0ECE-46C6-BAC3-411891439915@ado13.com>

Maybe Gerard?

On Sep 12, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> Does anyone know of these are being sold by another entity, other than
> Rivergate that is?
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul used to sell a right angle geared adaptor that fit the datsun trans
>> and
>> the sprite cable. He provided the gears to correct for your
>> gearing/diff/tire
>> combo.
>>
>> Glen Byrns
>>
>>
>>
>>> The easiest/cheapest way is to use a Datsun speedo cable, cut off the
>> metal
>>> sleeve and threaded nut nearest the speedo,use a piece of 7/16 ID plastic
>>> tubine (Tygon) and two fuelline clamps to connect them.
>>> This will give you the connection but the speedo will read 80% of your
>> true
>>> speed.
>>> The better way is to use the Rivergate cable gearbox and proper cable
>> (around
>>> $150 total I think)
>>> BillM
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:57:46 +0000
>>>> From: kk7ss at frontier.com
>>>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>>>> Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a special adaptor that lets the Datsun 5-speed tranny connect
>> to
>> a
>>> BugEye speedo?
>>>> Or is there more that has to be done?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave G  KK7SS
>>>> Richland, WA
>>>>
>>>> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>>>> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
>>>> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
>>>> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
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>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com
>>> _______________________________________________
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 12 14:30:10 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:30:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r-iWAUa08-G46gBBQabC8kPXBGGY-dXXH9OMbn4gF5ZDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1408984394.1182235.1315799866067.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>,
	<SNT123-W101814DC5F1E7E3903A297CA020@phx.gbl>,
	<E6E3A986-B299-4DFC-A7CB-4340171A51D3@gmail.com>,
	<CABQj3r-iWAUa08-G46gBBQabC8kPXBGGY-dXXH9OMbn4gF5ZDA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W31CD5CE1820852261D3C05CA020@phx.gbl>

Paul had some units when I bought his stuff but he had NO records about where
he had gotten them so I have no more- as far as I know Rivergate is the only
place right now.
I have referred a few of my friends to get the Rivergate units and they are
the least expensive and best fitting units that I know about.
BillM

Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:00:35 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: grbyrns at gmail.com
CC: billmasq at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net

Does anyone know of these are being sold by another entity, other than
Rivergate that is?


On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at gmail.com> wrote:

Paul used to sell a right angle geared adaptor that fit the datsun trans and
the sprite cable. He provided the gears to correct for your gearing/diff/tire

combo.

Glen Byrns






> The easiest/cheapest way is to use a Datsun speedo cable, cut off the metal
> sleeve and threaded nut nearest the speedo,use a piece of 7/16 ID plastic
> tubine (Tygon) and two fuelline clamps to connect them.

> This will give you the connection but the speedo will read 80% of your true
> speed.
> The better way is to use the Rivergate cable gearbox and proper cable
(around
> $150 total I think)
> BillM

>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:57:46 +0000
>> From: kk7ss at frontier.com
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net

>> Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
>>
>> Is there a special adaptor that lets the Datsun 5-speed tranny connect to
a
> BugEye speedo?
>> Or is there more that has to be done?

>>
>> --
>> Dave G  KK7SS
>> Richland, WA
>>
>> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
>> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)

>> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html

>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 12 15:09:17 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:09:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W31CD5CE1820852261D3C05CA020@phx.gbl>
References: <1408984394.1182235.1315799866067.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>,
	<SNT123-W101814DC5F1E7E3903A297CA020@phx.gbl>,
	<E6E3A986-B299-4DFC-A7CB-4340171A51D3@gmail.com>,
	<CABQj3r-iWAUa08-G46gBBQabC8kPXBGGY-dXXH9OMbn4gF5ZDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<SNT123-W31CD5CE1820852261D3C05CA020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <56A3650999FF4366B1FCBE4475EC18CD@spider>

If someone has a working cable, I'll bet you can have others reproduced from
it. Google "Speedometer Service and Instrument" <your city's name>
There is one in Portland, Oregon and San Francisco. There have to be more.
...bill in corvallis
=========================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Masquelier
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 1:30 PM
To: spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.

Paul had some units when I bought his stuff but he had NO records about
where
he had gotten them so I have no more- as far as I know Rivergate is the only
place right now.
I have referred a few of my friends to get the Rivergate units and they are
the least expensive and best fitting units that I know about.
BillM
=============================================
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:00:35 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: grbyrns at gmail.com
CC: billmasq at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net

Does anyone know of these are being sold by another entity, other than
Rivergate that is?

From skemple at tidewater.net  Mon Sep 12 15:45:46 2011
From: skemple at tidewater.net (Steven Kemple)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:45:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
In-Reply-To: <1113912688-1315849672-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-972893071-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry>
References: <8DA11669-0299-41A6-89E7-CEB310B9262C@tidewater.net>
	<1113912688-1315849672-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-972893071-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <BD1A01F9-4209-4580-98FA-0A9B7E58F4F3@tidewater.net>

Thanks to everyone for the rapid responses.  Lots to consider.  The brakes are
not currently binding.  The original problem was a too long pushrod in an
upgraded master.  That's corrected and there is ample fee movement.  Now I
can't get a good pedal after bleeding.  I'll make another thorough look at
everything including the master ( not assuming that it was overhauled
correctly).

I'll report back.

Steve Kemple

AN5
BT7 Tricarb
On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:47 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Did you see the recent post with the link to MG/AH brake master rebuild
specs? From memory, on the sight they indicate that correct masters for early
sprites are hard to get. The issue is the bore size.
>
> That could be part of your problem. I assume you are using the original
single unit with a single brake master and clutch master combined.
>
> If the car is not original this could be a good excuse to upgrade to discs
up front.
> Good Luck and welcome to the board.
> Steve
> Sent from me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Kemple <skemple at tidewater.net>
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:20:52
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm a new lister, but not new to LBC's.  I acquired a 61 Bugeye recently
and
> have been working on brake problems ever since.  Seemed O.K. when I did the
> test drive but the brakes seemed weak and the pedal very hard.  I chalked
it
> up to not being used to 4 wheel drum brakes.
>
> On the first drive after delivery the rear brakes locked up.  Changed the
rear
> cylinders.  Then the front brakes locked up.  After extensive review of the
> archives and discussions with the PO it appears that the car had a newly
> rebuilt Master Cylinder and ended up with the wrong push rod resulting in
no
> free movement.  That has been corrected.  Even after a fairly short drive
with
> the locked up front brakes, the shoes and cylinders looked pretty much
trashed
> so I changed them ( shoes and Lockeed type cylinders from Moss).  I have
two
> problems that I have been struggling with for days.  First, the right front
> wheel drum is very tight with the adjusters completely unadjusted.  I can
see
> no difference in parts.  I even tried changing the shoes and drums from the
> left side with no difference.  The other problem is that I can not get a
hard
> pedal.  I can not detect any leaks and no bubbles when bleeding.  I am
using
> the wife assist bleed method.  I can pump up the pedal a bit but it is not
> close to right.  I let it sit for a couple of days and still no change.
The
> front flexible lines are new and the rear one looks new.  Isolation of the
> flexible lines has not pointed to a specific problem.  The only other thing
to
> add is that at one front wheel I found a small amount of fluid inside the
drum
> back plate but could not detect from where.  I thought it may have been a
run
> away drip from the bleeding process.  Could it be a hair line crack in a
new
> wheel cylinder?  I have read just about every brake posting on the archives
> looking for an answer.  Any thoughts?
>
> Steve Kemple
>
> AN5
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From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Mon Sep 12 16:14:03 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:14:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <56A3650999FF4366B1FCBE4475EC18CD@spider>
Message-ID: <1640195326.1247732.1315865643827.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

What I know: Paul A had the speedometer angle drives and cables for his Datsun 5-speed conversion kits made at:

Speedometer Service and Instrument Company
3551 NW Front Avenue
Portland OR 97210-1301
(503) 227-5567

For Morris Minors the conversion speedometer cable was modeled after those found on FWD Datsun F10s.

What I do NOT know: The formula he used to derive the ratio at which the angle drive was geared (he stamped this information on the body of the angle drives he supplied ... 1:1 to 1, 1:3 to 1, etc.). The formula was derived from tire size, etc., and the angle drive ration was made to correlate with information that is in the fine print found at the bottom of a Smith or Jaeger Speedometer. This allowed the use of the original speedo without having to change its internal gearing. The finished product usually gave a good approximation of the car's speed but was not precise, He considered this information proprietary and I was not privy to it. 

Pete

Previously, Bill M wrote:

Paul had some units when I bought his stuff but he had NO records about wherehe had gotten them so I have no more- as far as I know Rivergate is the onlyplace right now.I have referred a few of my friends to get the Rivergate units and they arethe least expensive and best fitting units that I know about.
BillM

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Mon Sep 12 16:23:40 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:23:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <56A3650999FF4366B1FCBE4475EC18CD@spider>
Message-ID: <1550173553.1247848.1315866220475.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

For those people who are SERIOUS about acquiring a speedometer cable for a Datsun 5-speed conversion, I MIGHT be able to have some of the cables reproduced using ones I have stored out in the Parts Palace for patterns. I know I have a Morris Minor cable. I MIGHT have a Sprite cable. 

Serious enquiries only. The cables will cost what they cost. I'm not in a position to do a lot of back-and forth driving across town so I won't be getting an estimate first. Also, postage will cost what it costs.

Pete

pdx dot pete at frontier dot com

----- Original Message -----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com

If someone has a working cable, I'll bet you can have others reproduced from
it. Google "Speedometer Service and Instrument" <your city's name>
There is one in Portland, Oregon and San Francisco. There have to be more.
...bill in corvallis

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Mon Sep 12 16:25:41 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:25:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <56A3650999FF4366B1FCBE4475EC18CD@spider>
Message-ID: <1311818761.1247884.1315866341976.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

And, I'd get around to it when I got around to it.

----- Original Message -----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com

If someone has a working cable, I'll bet you can have others reproduced from
it. Google "Speedometer Service and Instrument" <your city's name>
There is one in Portland, Oregon and San Francisco. There have to be more.
...bill in corvallis

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep 12 17:54:47 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:54:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <1311818761.1247884.1315866341976.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <56A3650999FF4366B1FCBE4475EC18CD@spider>
	<1311818761.1247884.1315866341976.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <198606564.20110912165447@pacifier.com>

Hello Peter,

     What I know:

     Near the end, The place where he was getting them done would no
     longer do custom gearing. He could standard gears made in the
     angle drive but wouldn't make them for him based on ALL the
     information.... transmission, tire size, speedo gearing. He was
     trying to find another source that WOULD do that but he hadn't
     found one (to my knowledge).


     Was good to see you again Peter. Nice to know that you are able
     to get up and felt well enough to attempt the ABFM. That says a
     lot to me about your progress.... Yippee!

--


Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Famous last words - Don't worry, I can handle it. 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 12 19:44:41 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:44:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie; West Delta Park Portland Oregon
Message-ID: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>

http://tinyurl.com/3bbjcqp

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Sep 12 20:31:27 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:31:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie;
 West Delta Park  Portland Oregon
In-Reply-To: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>
References: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>
Message-ID: <5149F2786CCA44EA8989C1391C9CF0BC@blackbox2>

That doesn't count!  All the Spridgets can do that kind wheelie 
(and sadly, all too often!).

 
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
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Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie; West Delta Park Portland Oregon

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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Mon Sep 12 21:34:23 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:34:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie;
 West Delta Park   Portland Oregon
In-Reply-To: <5149F2786CCA44EA8989C1391C9CF0BC@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <1344785409.1196978.1315884863023.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

My Morris is up on 4 jacks... does that count as a "Double-Wheelie" ?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> That doesn't count!  All the Spridgets can do that kind wheelie
> (and sadly, all too often!).

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 22:38:31 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:38:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie;
 West Delta Park  Portland Oregon
In-Reply-To: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>
References: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAHxCQo-Eh6EJ0McMECb7fPDHTx2yQxgLf0yiAtgY9U9KQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, they had to get that poor spectator out from underneath that tried to
run across the track!  (they do that here in Oregon)
Herb

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:44 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/3bbjcqp
> _______________________________________________

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 12 22:39:37 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:39:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie;
 West Delta Park  Portland Oregon
In-Reply-To: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>
References: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAFu78yUbeuX-=+DkFvFLnHkVjcrmP29fSNendYGNjmo4g@mail.gmail.com>

P.S.  Nice car.  Know who it belongs to?
Herb

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:44 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/3bbjcqp

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Sep 13 00:40:50 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:40:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22
In-Reply-To: <mailman.785.1315888727.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.785.1315888727.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <263FF654-BA34-4B65-8A95-9A273FA8594F@gerardsgarage.com>

Bill L's  information is correct.

I bought 3 angle drives from Paul in the last year he was able to  
still offer product. He was not able to supply them any longer custom  
geared. I know where to get the exact same angle drives, but they are  
geared 1:1 and they are not cheap.

I do have available. new manufactured cables with adapter that is a  
"turnkey" installation. These are approximately half the price of  
other solutions and there's no need for the angle drive. I've supplied  
more than a dozen of these with complete customer satisfaction. I've  
heard from a number of people whose angle drives have been "eaten up"  
for whatever reason and replaced multiple times too. I don't consider  
the additional cost for the angle drive to be cost effective for the  
little bit of speed correction it provides, but that's an individual  
decision. Depending on your gearing/tire combination your error may  
vary, but I'm currently test driving a 73 Midget  (3.9) with 155R13  
with my kit and speedo cable installed and speed error is about 10%. I  
can go out with my GPS and test at different speeds if anyone one  
interested in more specific info.

I have 3 new cables left to be used in concert with the BMC cable if  
anyone is interested. They are about half price of the turnkey ones.

Contact me off list for additional info.

Gerard
http://gerardsgarage.com/

On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:38 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:54:47 -0700
> From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> To: Peter Shull <pdx.pete at frontier.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
> Message-ID: <198606564.20110912165447 at pacifier.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>     What I know:
>
>     Near the end, The place where he was getting them done would no
>     longer do custom gearing. He could standard gears made in the
>     angle drive but wouldn't make them for him based on ALL the
>     information.... transmission, tire size, speedo gearing. He was
>     trying to find another source that WOULD do that but he hadn't
>     found one (to my knowledge).

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Sep 13 00:42:58 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.785.1315888727.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.785.1315888727.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2318F8BB-4F22-45D8-8830-9731C297BCA7@gerardsgarage.com>

Bill L's  information is correct.

I bought 3 angle drives from Paul in the last year he was able to  
still offer product. He was not able to supply them any longer custom  
geared. I know where to get the exact same angle drives, but they are  
geared 1:1 and they are not cheap.

I do have available. new manufactured cables with adapter that is a  
"turnkey" installation. These are approximately half the price of  
other solutions and there's no need for the angle drive. I've supplied  
more than a dozen of these with complete customer satisfaction. I've  
heard from a number of people whose angle drives have been "eaten up"  
for whatever reason and replaced multiple times too. I don't consider  
the additional cost for the angle drive to be cost effective for the  
little bit of speed correction it provides, but that's an individual  
decision. Depending on your gearing/tire combination your error may  
vary, but I'm currently test driving a 73 Midget  (3.9) with 155R13  
with my kit and speedo cable installed and speed error is about 10%. I  
can go out with my GPS and test at different speeds if anyone one  
interested in more specific info.

I have 3 new cables left to be used in concert with the BMC cable if  
anyone is interested. They are about half price of the turnkey ones.

Contact me off list for additional info.

Gerard
http://gerardsgarage.com/

On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:38 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:54:47 -0700
> From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> To: Peter Shull <pdx.pete at frontier.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
> Message-ID: <198606564.20110912165447 at pacifier.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>     What I know:
>
>     Near the end, The place where he was getting them done would no
>     longer do custom gearing. He could standard gears made in the
>     angle drive but wouldn't make them for him based on ALL the
>     information.... transmission, tire size, speedo gearing. He was
>     trying to find another source that WOULD do that but he hadn't
>     found one (to my knowledge).

From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 13 03:35:44 2011
From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:35:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
Message-ID: <1315906544.61315.YahooMailClassic@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

ok so it's 5:15am tuesday and no one has responded to this issue in the
correct order yet?  first off if you had to change the push rods them you must
have a 3/4" bore master cylinder in the car as the 7/8" bore one was the
correct bore unit for 4 whel drum brakes.  the 3/4" bore one was for disc
brakes.  not only were the two identical in initial inspection but they had
distinct difrent pistons requiring the two difrent length push rods.
now hydrauluically the 3/4 bore master does not push enough fluid to properly
actuate the drum brakes 6 wheel cylinders.  but a 7/8" bore master can actuate
the upgraded aplication of front disc brakes.  
now only the volume of fluid is being considered here , not the amount of
pressure generated by the two difret bore cylinders. 
 
chuck
umm think this may be the problem? 
 
--- On Mon, 9/12/11, Steven Kemple <skemple at tidewater.net> wrote:


From: Steven Kemple <skemple at tidewater.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brake problems
To: an5.sprite at gmail.com
Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:45 PM


Thanks to everyone for the rapid responses.  Lots to consider.  The brakes
are
not currently binding.  The original problem was a too long pushrod in an
upgraded master.  That's corrected and there is ample fee movement.  Now I
can't get a good pedal after bleeding.  I'll make another thorough look at
everything including the master ( not assuming that it was overhauled
correctly).

I'll report back.

Steve Kemple

AN5
BT7 Tricarb
On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:47 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote:

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 08:48:32 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:48:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres
Message-ID: <CAMyxPE+1XK0Mt8xoBfex3=UX+MbDbibXG_ajd54dKpeCx2Dtiw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone seen these yet?  From Hoax Slayer. .  but it does look like these are
under development?


http://www.hoax-slayer.com/see-through-tyres.shtml

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Sep 13 10:07:23 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPE+1XK0Mt8xoBfex3=UX+MbDbibXG_ajd54dKpeCx2Dtiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPE+1XK0Mt8xoBfex3=UX+MbDbibXG_ajd54dKpeCx2Dtiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1315930043.43546.YahooMailRC@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Should be popular on Escalades and Navigators.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, September 13, 2011 10:48:32 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres

Anyone seen these yet?  From Hoax Slayer. .  but it does look like these are
under development?


http://www.hoax-slayer.com/see-through-tyres.shtml

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Sep 13 11:29:38 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:29:38 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres
References: <CAMyxPE+1XK0Mt8xoBfex3=UX+MbDbibXG_ajd54dKpeCx2Dtiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3ACFF1711E314110BB308B4931B6FC21@user8634b3d69b>

Kirk,
These were shelved some time ago.  They were an attempt to make a puncture 
proof tyre but transmitted too much road noise and vibration through to the 
vehicle to let them be acceptable.  We'll be stuck with the 'air cushion' 
for some time yet.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:48 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres


> Anyone seen these yet?  From Hoax Slayer. .  but it does look like these 
> are
> under development?
>
>
> http://www.hoax-slayer.com/see-through-tyres.shtml
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 11:58:34 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:58:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres
In-Reply-To: <1315930043.43546.YahooMailRC@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAMyxPE+1XK0Mt8xoBfex3=UX+MbDbibXG_ajd54dKpeCx2Dtiw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1315930043.43546.YahooMailRC@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurwfmqows1dFvdAPf++TbUkPR4xZ65hHdJOzs6qG=A-3A@mail.gmail.com>

One also wonders about how well they would stand up to lateral loading....

Also - how would they look on my Midget...    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> Should be popular on Escalades and Navigators.
>
>  jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
> To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, September 13, 2011 10:48:32 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres
>
> Anyone seen these yet?  From Hoax Slayer. .  but it does look like these
> are
> under development?
>
>
> http://www.hoax-slayer.com/see-through-tyres.shtml
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Sep 13 13:57:17 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:57:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
In-Reply-To: <mailman.498.1315826995.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.498.1315826995.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E00CDF06-F7F6-4FB4-B133-DD7B3008F679@gerardsgarage.com>

Billy,

There have been many who dispute the worth of going to the correct MC.  
I have known even the most adamantly opposed  have changed their mind  
once they experienced the difference. My experience is that everyone  
who has made the change has been 100% satisfied with the upgrade and  
agree that the brake and even the clutch work better. This is not to  
mention the quality of the product they get from Sierra. He is  
unquestionably the best and I have worked with Joe for more that 12  
years.

The fact is BMC changed to 3/4" bore MC's when they moved to disc  
brakes on 1098 cars and remained that way until the end of  
production.  The reality is brake pedal effort is reduced by  
approximately 1/3rd, and the clutch becomes less switch-like and gives  
a more gradual/smoother release. It's more a matter of improved  
driving experience, rather than whether it works or not. The choice is  
yours, but at least now there is a choice.

Gerard
http://www.gerardsgarage.com/


On Sep 12, 2011, at 4:29 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:25:29 -0700
> From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> To: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>, <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
> 	replacement
> Message-ID: <CA92BBA9.1B7B1%billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I'm not disputing any of this, but what about all the people who are  
> running
> 7/8" master cylinders with disc brakes and tell me it works fine?   
> How much
> difference does it make with a 1098 clutch?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 13 15:14:50 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:14:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Seen in Birmingham, England - sort of LBC
Message-ID: <7c50.109e7e9.3ba121ca@aol.com>

Saw my first electric car hooked up to a roadside charger the other  day.  
Sure, I've seen electric vehicles before and the charging points have  been 
in place for about a year, maybe longer in Birmingham.  However, it  was a 
real first to say a car plugged into the charging point and I was sorry  not 
to have my phone with me to be able to take a photo (maybe later this week  
when I need to go to the bank).
 
Weslake-Monza

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 13 15:19:42 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:19:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
In-Reply-To: <E00CDF06-F7F6-4FB4-B133-DD7B3008F679@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <mailman.498.1315826995.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>,
	<E00CDF06-F7F6-4FB4-B133-DD7B3008F679@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W480B7BDF78D920A93836F5CA050@phx.gbl>

I completely agree with Gerrard on this one!
It is not that the 7/8 MC won't stop you but that it doesn't take as much
peddle force for the same effect and that REALLY inspires more confidence
while driving!
I have the 3/4 now instead of the 7/8 and it makes a LOT of difference in the
"psychological" stopping distance!
BillM

> From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:57:17 -0700
> Subject: [Spridgets] FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
>
> Billy,
>
> There have been many who dispute the worth of going to the correct MC.
> I have known even the most adamantly opposed  have changed their mind
> once they experienced the difference. My experience is that everyone
> who has made the change has been 100% satisfied with the upgrade and
> agree that the brake and even the clutch work better. This is not to
> mention the quality of the product they get from Sierra. He is
> unquestionably the best and I have worked with Joe for more that 12
> years.
>
> The fact is BMC changed to 3/4" bore MC's when they moved to disc
> brakes on 1098 cars and remained that way until the end of
> production.  The reality is brake pedal effort is reduced by
> approximately 1/3rd, and the clutch becomes less switch-like and gives
> a more gradual/smoother release. It's more a matter of improved
> driving experience, rather than whether it works or not. The choice is
> yours, but at least now there is a choice.
>
> Gerard
> http://www.gerardsgarage.com/
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 4:29 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:25:29 -0700
> > From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> > To: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>, <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
> > 	replacement
> > Message-ID: <CA92BBA9.1B7B1%billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > I'm not disputing any of this, but what about all the people who are
> > running
> > 7/8" master cylinders with disc brakes and tell me it works fine?
> > How much
> > difference does it make with a 1098 clutch?
> _______________________________________________
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 13 15:24:05 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:24:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Sprite outdrags a modern Audi
Message-ID: <8272.2ddd45f7.3ba123f4@aol.com>

Hi list,
 
Whenever I drive a modern car they always feel like they lack torque and  
need the gearbox stirring more than my Sprite does to get a move on.
 
Friday on my way back from Silverstone I was joining the motorway (3 lane)  
with a really slow car joining the motorway in front of me and an Audi 
behind me  that was itching to get past.  Normally I'd let anyone in a hurry get 
past  me and then get a move on myself.  However, on this occasion I could 
see  that if I did that I'd have to slow right down behind the slow car and 
then wait  to get out into the middle lane.  So, I though the car in a hurry 
can wait  for me and I pulled out sharply into the middle lane and floored 
the Sprite in  4th from I guess about 50mph.  The Audi disappeared from my 
rear view  mirror so I guessed he'd found a gap in the outside lane was going 
to overtake  me.  The thing was by the time he was level with my car I was 
still in 4th  and now up to I guess 4,500 rpm (about 70mph) and the engine 
was coming up on  the cam.  At first it was level pegging then sure enough my 
Sprite started  to nose ahead inch by inch.  I pulled about 5500 maybe a 
bit more having  nosed about a foot ahead and grabbed fifth.  So, in 5th, 
doing ninety,  pulling nicely and holding steady with the Audi.  I guess at 
about a 100mph  or so I could see the Audi wasn't going to give up so I lifted 
off slightly to  let him overtake.  I looked dead ahead but I saw the Audi 
driver look  across at me and he was grinning and laughing.  Once he was ahead 
he give  me a friendly 4 way indicator flash and he was gone.  I guess his 
idea of  fast motorway cruising is well in excess of a 100mph and mine is 
more more like  85-90mph.
 
So,old Sprites can give modern cars surprises.  
 
Oh Yeah, the next morning I have the guys in a little Peugeot a surprise  
too.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 (modified)

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 16:33:28 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:33:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres
In-Reply-To: <3ACFF1711E314110BB308B4931B6FC21@user8634b3d69b>
References: <CAMyxPE+1XK0Mt8xoBfex3=UX+MbDbibXG_ajd54dKpeCx2Dtiw@mail.gmail.com>
	<3ACFF1711E314110BB308B4931B6FC21@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <CAMyxPELYffQnnv7dNjc6J97B=as_h8e6j2F-h1dyyGWzHtxGig@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks,

Kirk

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Kirk,
> These were shelved some time ago.  They were an attempt to make a puncture
> proof tyre but transmitted too much road noise and vibration through to the
> vehicle to let them be acceptable.  We'll be stuck with the 'air cushion'
> for some time yet.
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <
> khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:48 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Michellin See Through Tyres
>
>
>  Anyone seen these yet?  From Hoax Slayer. .  but it does look like these
>> are
>> under development?
>>
>>
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 13 16:49:51 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie;
 West Delta Park  Portland Oregon
In-Reply-To: <911C754A46054A52BEF17434968D1FF7@spider>
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Or .... http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?9,4830

Rick


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From: corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget doing wheelie; West Delta Park Portland Oregon
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 9:44 PM

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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Tue Sep 13 17:34:24 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:34:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Sprite outdrags a modern Audi
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Silverstone has that effect on some people  <Grin>
Also Brands Hatch, Goodwood, Snetterton.................

Around here, it happens after a NASCAR event has finished!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Normally I'd let anyone in a hurry get
> past  me and then get a move on myself. 

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 17:35:15 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:35:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
In-Reply-To: <E00CDF06-F7F6-4FB4-B133-DD7B3008F679@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <mailman.498.1315826995.6966.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<E00CDF06-F7F6-4FB4-B133-DD7B3008F679@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <CAF3a=7JdkRnVru6O5KKTQoTh+G6WY1TVK3H7gRdxYhwcBiQGDg@mail.gmail.com>

Gerald,

After BMC chnaged to the dual master with a separate clutch master around
1998, where there 2 different size clutch masters? I know there are 2
different rebuilding kits, but have no idea if the bores are the same.

Steve

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>wrote:

> Billy,
>
> There have been many who dispute the worth of going to the correct MC.
> I have known even the most adamantly opposed  have changed their mind
> once they experienced the difference. My experience is that everyone
> who has made the change has been 100% satisfied with the upgrade and
> agree that the brake and even the clutch work better. This is not to
> mention the quality of the product they get from Sierra. He is
> unquestionably the best and I have worked with Joe for more that 12
> years.
>
> The fact is BMC changed to 3/4" bore MC's when they moved to disc
> brakes on 1098 cars and remained that way until the end of
> production.  The reality is brake pedal effort is reduced by
> approximately 1/3rd, and the clutch becomes less switch-like and gives
> a more gradual/smoother release. It's more a matter of improved
> driving experience, rather than whether it works or not. The choice is
> yours, but at least now there is a choice.
>
> Gerard
> http://www.gerardsgarage.com/
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 4:29 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:25:29 -0700
> > From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> > To: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>, <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: FW: 1960 Bugeye clutch slave cylinder
> >       replacement
> > Message-ID: <CA92BBA9.1B7B1%billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > I'm not disputing any of this, but what about all the people who are
> > running
> > 7/8" master cylinders with disc brakes and tell me it works fine?
> > How much
> > difference does it make with a 1098 clutch?
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 17:59:57 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:59:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody Got Hacked
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0zrcET7yThWEWB3aUo-orceOBWmuzHDwvkp67o4eWHCyg@mail.gmail.com>

Just got an email from "Paul" and the subject was "Hello". Someone on
both the Triumphs and Spridgets lists apparently got hacked. Wasn't me
cause I'm not on the Triumphs list...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 13 18:57:24 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:57:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The Frankfurt Motor Show 2011 in pictures
Message-ID: <001d01cc7279$44a3b350$cdeb19f0$@net>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/8760002/The-Frankfurt-M
otor-Show-2011-in-pictures.html 

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Tue Sep 13 19:15:16 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 01:15:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <2318F8BB-4F22-45D8-8830-9731C297BCA7@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <925871342.1265167.1315962916668.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Very glad to hear that an alternative is still available.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerard" <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:42:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.

Bill L's  information is correct.

I bought 3 angle drives from Paul in the last year he was able to  
still offer product. He was not able to supply them any longer custom  
geared. I know where to get the exact same angle drives, but they are  
geared 1:1 and they are not cheap.

I do have available. new manufactured cables with adapter that is a  
"turnkey" installation. These are approximately half the price of  
other solutions and there's no need for the angle drive. I've supplied  
more than a dozen of these with complete customer satisfaction. I've  
heard from a number of people whose angle drives have been "eaten up"  
for whatever reason and replaced multiple times too. I don't consider  
the additional cost for the angle drive to be cost effective for the  
little bit of speed correction it provides, but that's an individual  
decision. Depending on your gearing/tire combination your error may  
vary, but I'm currently test driving a 73 Midget  (3.9) with 155R13  
with my kit and speedo cable installed and speed error is about 10%. I  
can go out with my GPS and test at different speeds if anyone one  
interested in more specific info.

I have 3 new cables left to be used in concert with the BMC cable if  
anyone is interested. They are about half price of the turnkey ones.

Contact me off list for additional info.

Gerard
http://gerardsgarage.com/

On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:38 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:54:47 -0700
> From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> To: Peter Shull <pdx.pete at frontier.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
> Message-ID: <198606564.20110912165447 at pacifier.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>     What I know:
>
>     Near the end, The place where he was getting them done would no
>     longer do custom gearing. He could standard gears made in the
>     angle drive but wouldn't make them for him based on ALL the
>     information.... transmission, tire size, speedo gearing. He was
>     trying to find another source that WOULD do that but he hadn't
>     found one (to my knowledge).
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From nases at verizon.net  Tue Sep 13 19:30:51 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:30:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini LBC not Spridget
Message-ID: <13E1597A-4682-4985-9047-E905D4C54AE1@verizon.net>

I see many beautiful classic mini's that are right hand drive.  Sadly right
hand drive is not for me.  How big a job is the conversion to LHD?

Just dreamin'

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Sep 13 22:10:48 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:10:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Texas All British Car Days..
Message-ID: <85289EFE-AE94-46FD-A73A-288CBF567E65@comcast.net>

Anyone going?

Lester

From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Sep 13 22:20:19 2011
From: miniac7 at aol.com (Howie)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:20:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini LBC not Spridget
In-Reply-To: <13E1597A-4682-4985-9047-E905D4C54AE1@verizon.net>
References: <13E1597A-4682-4985-9047-E905D4C54AE1@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <E324EE27-8581-450D-9D60-A6C74C87785C@aol.com>

Steering rack change

Swap steering, pedal box, brake and clutch masters

Swap gauge cluster unless it's a center binnacle

Swap door lock mechanisms

Adjust rear view mirrors

Not much else to consider

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
'60 AH Bugeye Sprite
'68 Austin Mini


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> I see many beautiful classic mini's that are right hand drive.  Sadly right
> hand drive is not for me.  How big a job is the conversion to LHD?
>
> Just dreamin'
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Tue Sep 13 22:27:02 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:27:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Texas All British Car
	Days..
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References: <85289EFE-AE94-46FD-A73A-288CBF567E65@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <014a01cc7296$8d238d40$a76aa7c0$@austin.rr.com>

The Magic 8 Ball says "Likely". It is about 5 miles from my house.
www.txabcd.org 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: bugeye at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugeye at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lester
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:11 PM
To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; Spridget Chat Group
Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Texas All British Car Days..

Anyone going?

Lester

From info at classictradespace.com  Wed Sep 14 00:40:28 2011
From: info at classictradespace.com (classic trade space)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:40:28 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
Message-ID: <CED1A4BF91FB4D038C407C31F77D0B59@WORLDCARS>

Any one got a Decent Bugeye they want to sell, complete project or a good
solid driver. Please let me no.

Thanks marco

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 14 05:59:49 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:59:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
In-Reply-To: <CED1A4BF91FB4D038C407C31F77D0B59@WORLDCARS>
References: <CED1A4BF91FB4D038C407C31F77D0B59@WORLDCARS>
Message-ID: <2FE369523EFB40A3ADC2766F4EAAA195@spider>

How much do you want to spend and where are you located?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of classic trade space
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:40 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted

Any one got a Decent Bugeye they want to sell, complete project or a good
solid driver. Please let me no.

Thanks marco
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 14 06:30:34 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:30:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Texas All British Car
 Days..
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References: <85289EFE-AE94-46FD-A73A-288CBF567E65@comcast.net>
	<014a01cc7296$8d238d40$a76aa7c0$@austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <E4A575F1-3A33-46D9-9431-42BEC6CB883A@comcast.net>

Well maybe I'll see ya there.. if I make it.  Going in the.. sshhhh....Jag E..
but I insist on driving it there.  Unless of course the temps are above 90 or
so.

;-)

Lester


On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Jim Seippel wrote:

> The Magic 8 Ball says "Likely". It is about 5 miles from my house.
> www.txabcd.org
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugeye at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugeye at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Lester
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:11 PM
> To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; Spridget Chat Group
> Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Texas All British Car Days..
>
> Anyone going?
>
> Lester
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Sep 14 07:52:36 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:52:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
Message-ID: <20110914.075236.15606.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>

I took Tamara up to Ft. Collins recently in the MKII (got great mileage on the
way up-75 mi, 1.65 US gal) and stopped by the garage of an acquaintance that
does LBC reconstructions. He has a later (hidden hinge) Mini with a 1275 and a
turbo in it (turbo in the rear?), the owner has had problems keeping the head
gasket intact (Surprise), and is wanting to get out of it after the head gets
redone (again). the paint is fair, LHD, good interior, all of the S mods on
it, he said the owner wants $3k for it. Tamara REALLY wants it.
Is that a fair price? I paid $3k for my '58 BE not running 3 years ago.


Mark Haynes
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 14 08:16:38 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:16:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] On modern engine oils
In-Reply-To: <j4oo4r+ao74@eGroups.com>
References: <j4oo4r+ao74@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <2E19261878ED4E67BA819A0BDA510038@Home>

On oils for the flat-tappet Onan generator used in my RV:

  I have had 2 oil related failures in Dodge smallblock engines. ...... These were all on the engine in my 70 Challenger, which is turbo, so it has a very mild, low spring pressure camshaft, that is actually less hard on the parts than a stock cam. The engine has pushrods and non-roller rockers.

  Failure one-Brand new engine-new rockers (stock) and shafts. Broke in engine on Castrol 30 weight dino oil (SJ rated) for 500 miles. All was good. Switched to Amsoil 10-40 oil (SM rated) and had lifter noise in less than 200 miles. The pushrods and rockers were burned up. 

  Failure two-put in new rockers, shafts and pushrods. Disassmbled the engine to clean it out and check the camshaft, which survived. Put it back together and broke it in on the 30 weight again for 500 miles without issue. Amsoil recommended going to 15-50 diesel oil, which I did. Lifter noise again in 250 miles, with another set of burned up rockers, shafts and pushrods.

  Gave up on Amsoil-rebuilt everything again-broke in on the 30 weight and switched to Mobil1 20-50 oil (SJ rated). No issues in 7 years to this point.

  The previous engine to this had run over 60,000 miles, over 15 years, with the same style parts, on SJ or older oil, without issue. All of the failures happened with the newer oils. The diesel oil was said to be higher zinc, but it turned out to be just SM oil with the soot additives, when it was tested. The other oil than failed was SM.

  The Onan is the exact same style of engine as the older car engines, overhead valve/flat tappet/non roller rockers/pushrods, ....

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 08:36:45 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:36:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Portland Or.
Message-ID: <CABWjhcKma8U2hSnpL1XdOhC25jJR3T1qa0teWYSTZvknS6c1rA@mail.gmail.com>

This one:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2593894846.html

I talked to people who saw it in person and it did not get glowing reviews.
One who was at the ABFM said:
It pulled in and was smoking up front, when the owner was told he said
something like "Oh I forgot to turn on the fan again".
It was also leaking fluid and had a flat tire.
He had a for sale sign up but had no interest after two hours when he left,
driving off with a flat and coolant leaking out.

Just in case anyone here is interested in the car, a heads up.

Rick Bastedo

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 09:18:54 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:18:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
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References: <CED1A4BF91FB4D038C407C31F77D0B59@WORLDCARS>
	<2FE369523EFB40A3ADC2766F4EAAA195@spider>
Message-ID: <CAM6-Rjf2RM1W1i2H5cv526ENCD=zO+Nuc9toF4eVdmFzCWTd7g@mail.gmail.com>

If you go to his web page classictradespace.com you will get an idea of what
he wants.
Just saying....
Hal

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:59 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> How much do you want to spend and where are you located?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of classic trade space
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:40 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
>
> Any one got a Decent Bugeye they want to sell, complete project or a good
> solid driver. Please let me no.
>
> Thanks marco
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 14 10:12:00 2011
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:12:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
In-Reply-To: <4E6AE364.7070106@bak.rr.com>
References: <109669606.1166361.1315626716587.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>,
	<4E6AE364.7070106@bak.rr.com>
Message-ID: <COL117-W194C43F44664CB42C75F5DC2040@phx.gbl>

You mean her beer belly is bigger than all of yours????? ;-)
Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:11:16 -0700
> From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
>
> There is a lady in our club who I'd take over most men in the club to
> help work on our cars. She will do anything that is asked, is smart and
> grease and dirt sure don't bother her a bit. Only thing I have to do is
> jack/block up the car a bit further for her when she slides under to
> work on them....there is a clearance problem for her that men don't
> have...lol
> She is already taken..darn..(G)
>
> On 9/9/2011 8:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> > They don't intimidate me... they're just hard to find  :)
> >
> > --
> > Dave G  KK7SS
> >   Richland, WA
> >
> > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> > '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> >
> > ----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
> >
> >> Scratch that one. Surely Gary wasn't the only man who didn't feel
> >> intimidated by a female who didn't mind getting her hands greasy.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 14 10:31:45 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:31:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
In-Reply-To: <20110914.075236.15606.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110914.075236.15606.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1316017905.60032.YahooMailNeo@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark,
BUY IT.  Original Minis are goofy money  and have been for a few years.
I haven't seen any running original Mini go for less the $5k in a while - and
those are not necessarily restored, nice examples. Alternatively, you could
contact me off-line and tell me where it is...
 
 - David Booker
Long Island -
too many projects and vehicles already, but would figure it out anyway.

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 14 10:35:49 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:35:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Portland Or.
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcKma8U2hSnpL1XdOhC25jJR3T1qa0teWYSTZvknS6c1rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1579188304.4274.1316018149249.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Rick,

Thanks for the head's up...
My #3 son was asking about that very one last night.
I'll pass it on

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Rick Bastedo" <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> This one:
> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2593894846.html

From rich_ball at mindspring.com  Wed Sep 14 10:52:08 2011
From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:52:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] On modern engine oils
References: <j4oo4r+ao74@eGroups.com> <2E19261878ED4E67BA819A0BDA510038@Home>
Message-ID: <19A7EDB32C0A41EEB7CB8AC9C62036BE@psych.washington.edu>

Onan does have an oil they recommend for their gensets called Onamax. 
Supposedly formulated to fight heat oxidation common in air cooled engines 
and SL rated.  It is regular oil, not a synthetic.

The big thing I have read about generator oil is that people let the level 
drop to low and burn up the engine.  You want to check it regularly and keep 
the level where it should be.  That means checking it each morning of a trip 
if you are using the generator a lot.

Onan is a subsidiary of Cummings so you can buy your supplies and parts from 
a Cummings dealer if you have one near you.  I have found them to be cheaper 
than places like Camping World.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
'82 23' Jamboree RV
Everett, Wa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:16 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] On modern engine oils


> On oils for the flat-tappet Onan generator used in my RV:
>
>  I have had 2 oil related failures in Dodge smallblock engines. ...... 
> These were all on the engine in my 70 Challenger, which is turbo, so it 
> has a very mild, low spring pressure camshaft, that is actually less hard 
> on the parts than a stock cam. The engine has pushrods and non-roller 
> rockers.
>
>  Failure one-Brand new engine-new rockers (stock) and shafts. Broke in 
> engine on Castrol 30 weight dino oil (SJ rated) for 500 miles. All was 
> good. Switched to Amsoil 10-40 oil (SM rated) and had lifter noise in less 
> than 200 miles. The pushrods and rockers were burned up.
>
>  Failure two-put in new rockers, shafts and pushrods. Disassmbled the 
> engine to clean it out and check the camshaft, which survived. Put it back 
> together and broke it in on the 30 weight again for 500 miles without 
> issue. Amsoil recommended going to 15-50 diesel oil, which I did. Lifter 
> noise again in 250 miles, with another set of burned up rockers, shafts 
> and pushrods.
>
>  Gave up on Amsoil-rebuilt everything again-broke in on the 30 weight and 
> switched to Mobil1 20-50 oil (SJ rated). No issues in 7 years to this 
> point.
>
>  The previous engine to this had run over 60,000 miles, over 15 years, 
> with the same style parts, on SJ or older oil, without issue. All of the 
> failures happened with the newer oils. The diesel oil was said to be 
> higher zinc, but it turned out to be just SM oil with the soot additives, 
> when it was tested. The other oil than failed was SM.
>
>  The Onan is the exact same style of engine as the older car engines, 
> overhead valve/flat tappet/non roller rockers/pushrods, ....
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 14 11:09:50 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:09:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-Rjf2RM1W1i2H5cv526ENCD=zO+Nuc9toF4eVdmFzCWTd7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CED1A4BF91FB4D038C407C31F77D0B59@WORLDCARS><2FE369523EFB40A3ADC2766F4EAAA195@spider>
	<CAM6-Rjf2RM1W1i2H5cv526ENCD=zO+Nuc9toF4eVdmFzCWTd7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <58F4C772A7654DFA96AF81BFBFE89BFA@HomePC>

You may also notice that there is no phone number or location listed on his 
website.  Really?  How bad does he want to sell cars?  No phone?  No 
address?

This is also the guy who, a while back, harvested our email addresses from 
this list and spammed us with his commercial messages and then got pissy 
about it and bitched when he was told to stop -- which took many requests.






-----Original Message----- 
From: Hal Faulkner
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:18 AM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted

If you go to his web page classictradespace.com you will get an idea of what
he wants.
Just saying....
Hal

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:59 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> How much do you want to spend and where are you located?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of classic trade space
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:40 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
>
> Any one got a Decent Bugeye they want to sell, complete project or a good
> solid driver. Please let me no.
>
> Thanks marco
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 11:12:30 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:12:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-Rjf2RM1W1i2H5cv526ENCD=zO+Nuc9toF4eVdmFzCWTd7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CED1A4BF91FB4D038C407C31F77D0B59@WORLDCARS>
	<2FE369523EFB40A3ADC2766F4EAAA195@spider>
	<CAM6-Rjf2RM1W1i2H5cv526ENCD=zO+Nuc9toF4eVdmFzCWTd7g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r9etC2SHBdhBJvOYHLhFBYM-PPPKcAnRkhtE_FRc737Sw@mail.gmail.com>

When he is asking around $7000 for a project, it looks like we should get
good money out of ours.....

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you go to his web page classictradespace.com you will get an idea of
> what
> he wants.
> Just saying....
> Hal
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:59 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > How much do you want to spend and where are you located?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of classic trade
> space
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:40 PM
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
> >
> > Any one got a Decent Bugeye they want to sell, complete project or a good
> > solid driver. Please let me no.
> >
> > Thanks marco
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 14 12:09:33 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:09:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
In-Reply-To: <COL117-W194C43F44664CB42C75F5DC2040@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1045720379.1494248.1316023773402.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

I'm right here, Dave. Trying to get my house ready to put on the market for a move to North Idaho. Being in the middle of Nowhere has its advantages, but being alone is definitely not one of them.

Kate
>
> On 9/9/2011 8:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> > They don't intimidate me... they're just hard to find  :)
> >
> > --
> > Dave G  KK7SS
> >   Richland, WA
> >
> > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> > '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Wed Sep 14 12:13:09 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:13:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
In-Reply-To: <925871342.1265167.1315962916668.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <925871342.1265167.1315962916668.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <740999AC-75D7-4157-B708-D012F887E9E1@gerardsgarage.com>

Thanks Peter.

I have pretty much everything still available. Some additional stuff  
too.

http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/5speedKit.htm

Gerard

On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Peter Shull wrote:

> Very glad to hear that an alternative is still available.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerard" <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:42:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
>
> Bill L's  information is correct.
>
> I bought 3 angle drives from Paul in the last year he was able to
> still offer product. He was not able to supply them any longer custom
> geared. I know where to get the exact same angle drives, but they are
> geared 1:1 and they are not cheap.
>
> I do have available. new manufactured cables with adapter that is a
> "turnkey" installation. These are approximately half the price of
> other solutions and there's no need for the angle drive. I've supplied
> more than a dozen of these with complete customer satisfaction. I've
> heard from a number of people whose angle drives have been "eaten up"
> for whatever reason and replaced multiple times too. I don't consider
> the additional cost for the angle drive to be cost effective for the
> little bit of speed correction it provides, but that's an individual
> decision. Depending on your gearing/tire combination your error may
> vary, but I'm currently test driving a 73 Midget  (3.9) with 155R13
> with my kit and speedo cable installed and speed error is about 10%. I
> can go out with my GPS and test at different speeds if anyone one
> interested in more specific info.
>
> I have 3 new cables left to be used in concert with the BMC cable if
> anyone is interested. They are about half price of the turnkey ones.
>
> Contact me off list for additional info.
>
> Gerard
> http://gerardsgarage.com/
>
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:38 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:54:47 -0700
>> From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
>> To: Peter Shull <pdx.pete at frontier.com>
>> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5-speed speedo drive question.
>> Message-ID: <198606564.20110912165447 at pacifier.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>>    What I know:
>>
>>    Near the end, The place where he was getting them done would no
>>    longer do custom gearing. He could standard gears made in the
>>    angle drive but wouldn't make them for him based on ALL the
>>    information.... transmission, tire size, speedo gearing. He was
>>    trying to find another source that WOULD do that but he hadn't
>>    found one (to my knowledge).
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 14 12:46:28 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:46:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Portland Or.
In-Reply-To: <1434399991.6498.1316025817659.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <977350869.6527.1316025988742.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Hi ALan,

I'm in Richland (in the TriCities).
It's about 250 miles East of Portland.
180 miles East on I84, then 45 miles North on I82/I395.
There are quite a few Spridget owners in the Portland and Seattle area..

Guys.. if you're out there today... Shout!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- frogeye at cox.net wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I am out here in Portland, Oregon from Rhode Island till next week and
> helping a bugeye guy work on his car here
> 
> How far away are you or anyone else you know in the area?

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 13:11:02 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:11:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye wanted
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r9etC2SHBdhBJvOYHLhFBYM-PPPKcAnRkhtE_FRc737Sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CED1A4BF91FB4D038C407C31F77D0B59@WORLDCARS>
	<2FE369523EFB40A3ADC2766F4EAAA195@spider>
	<CAM6-Rjf2RM1W1i2H5cv526ENCD=zO+Nuc9toF4eVdmFzCWTd7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABQj3r9etC2SHBdhBJvOYHLhFBYM-PPPKcAnRkhtE_FRc737Sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM6-Rje4PcB=DefsL4z4o4M3+QfeA57vBajjjLB_UURZMWKmAA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>wrote:

> When he is asking around $7000 for a project, it looks like we should get
> good money out of ours.....
>
>

Because he is trying to ship them back to England or to Europe and get top
dollar for them.  And while that is the nature of Capitalism this list is
not  commercial list and he should not be using it as part of his business.
Hal

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Sep 14 13:12:36 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:12:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] : Re:  Later Mini -is price appropriate?
Message-ID: <20110914.131236.24527.1@webmail55.dca.untd.com>

The consensus seems to be to buy it. Anyone want to buy my '62 MKII for
whatever the Mini costs me?
Pictures at:
http://s734.photobucket.com/albums/ww349/bugeye8016/MK%20II%20reassembly/


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016

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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Sep 14 13:37:01 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Portland Or.
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcKma8U2hSnpL1XdOhC25jJR3T1qa0teWYSTZvknS6c1rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316029021.1995.YahooMailClassic@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Yeah, but it's got a early 58 windshield!

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer



--- On Wed, 9/14/11, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Portland Or.
To: "SPRIDGETS" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 2:36 PM

This one:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2593894846.html

I talked to people who saw it in person and it did not get glowing reviews.
One who was at the ABFM said:
It pulled in and was smoking up front, when the owner was told he said
something like "Oh I forgot to turn on the fan again".
It was also leaking fluid and had a flat tire.
He had a for sale sign up but had no interest after two hours when he left,
driving off with a flat and coolant leaking out.

Just in case anyone here is interested in the car, a heads up.

Rick Bastedo
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Sep 14 13:39:00 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:39:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thread about Threads Re:  Fuel line question
Message-ID: <dac6.5f4f7db4.3ba25cd4@aol.com>

Good info.  I don't think I'd call BSP Whitworth but I would call BSW
Whitworth, probably because it has Whitworth in the name.

I like the stuff about cycle threads - are the threaded screws on the
indicator shroud cycle threads?

Weslake-Monza 1330


In a message dated 12/09/2011 01:05:19 GMT Daylight Time,
cnaarndt at gmail.com writes:

Spridgetiers

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, <_WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_
(mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) >  wrote:
<I don't  believe BSP threads are the same as Whitworth threads though I've
not  checked.>

With all due respect, here is a short  primer on British thread forms...

For those who aren't familiar, by definition, Whitworth thread forms are
those where the angle of the  threads is 550 versus the 600 of most modern
threads.  Therefore the five  major Whitworth Thread Forms  include...

British Standard Whitworth  (BSW) - On the Bugeyes, at least, you'll find
that the 5/16 X 18TPI bolt  on the lower front generator bracket is this
thread form.  (This is  somewhat interchangeable with UNC or SAE Coarse which
is
also 18 TPI and will  thread into the hole in the front generator bracket.)
British Standard  Fine (BSF) - Most engine, transmission & suspension bolts
on Austin  Healey 100s.
British Standard Pipe Parallel (BSP) or (BSPP) -  Brass drain plugs and
valves, fuel and brake line fittings on most  Healeys.
British Standard Pipe Tapered (BSPT) - As above but  tapered, not used to
my knowledge on Healeys.
British Standard Brass  (BSB) - Used in thin walled tubing and ALL have
26TPI no matter the  diameter.  The mounting post on Lucas SFT/SLT 576 driving
lights would  have been this thread form.
Other threads (obscure if not obsolete) that used the Whitworth 550 angle
include, British Standard Conduit (BSCon), Model Engineers (ME), and British
 Standard Copper (BSCopper).
Other British Fasteners that are NOT Whitworth  include...

British Association (BA) - Used in Healey instruments  and fuel pumps.  47
1/20 angle of the threads.
British Standard  Cycle (BSC) - Used on a lot of British motorcycles and
most but NOT ALL  threads are 26 TPI.  The angle of the threads is 600.
Wikipedia lists  BSC as Whitworth and they are WRONG.
Cycle  engineers Institute (CEI) - Older cycle thread superseded by BSC.
The angle of the threads is 600.

The following  two thread forms are what the British switched to after
moving from the Whitworth standard.  These are the majority of the  fasteners
used on Spridgets.

Unified Coarse (UNC) - Identical to  American SAE Coarse and essentially
Interchangeable.  The angle of  the threads is 60  degrees.
Unified Fine (UNF) - Identical to American SAE Fine  and essentially
Interchangeable.  The angle of the threads is  60  degrees.

Cheers,

Curt

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, <_WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_
(mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) >  wrote:



Yes and no or maybe. British cars do have some BSP and BST - British
Standard Taper or is it BSPT?  However, I don't believe BSP threads are  the
same
as Whitworth threads though I've not checked.  I think you'll  find the
early steering rack, which originated on the Morris Minor has  Whitworth
fittings.  Maybe the dampers have Whitworth threads - Peter C  will know,
probably
all this stuff is in a book when it ought to be in my  head but it's
late.......

Weslake-Monza 1330 - Monday and I should be in bed!


In a message dated 11/09/2011 02:35:20 GMT Daylight Time,
_cnaarndt at gmail.com_ (mailto:cnaarndt at gmail.com)  writes:

Most  pipe threads on British cars of this vintage are Whitworth  threads,
British Standard Pipe (Parallel) to be  specific.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Sep 14 15:31:09 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:31:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] : Re:  Later Mini -is price appropriate?
In-Reply-To: <20110914.131236.24527.1@webmail55.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110914.131236.24527.1@webmail55.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <5AD6C25F-AEFB-4037-AF3E-D2C142CF20EF@chartermi.net>

You don't get it Mark.  Two Sprites and a Mini is NOT too many.  You can never
have too many LBC's.

Besides, I thought the Mini was for Tamara.  :-)

Rick
'59 & '61 Sprites
'79 Party Midget

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:12 PM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> The consensus seems to be to buy it. Anyone want to buy my '62 MKII for
> whatever the Mini costs me?
> Pictures at:
> http://s734.photobucket.com/albums/ww349/bugeye8016/MK%20II%20reassembly/
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 14 15:48:32 2011
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:48:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget for sale
Message-ID: <07DADA1F-ED9A-4651-A724-165DB8147815@hoppetool.com>

Hi all,

I'm putting up our 1964 mg midget with a fiberglass bugeye nose up for sale.
Located in Sunapee, NH, formally owned by Bud Paczur, who he bought from a guy
whose name is unknown that had been winning the H-production class. Car has
been great to us, we have owned for 3 years now and the only mechanical issue
we have seen in those years was breaking a valve. It has a 1275cc motor in it
with an APT head, extra head stud, 45dcoe weber, race solid disc clutch,
lightweight flywheel, datsun 5speed conversion, competition rear axles,
limited slip rear diff 4.22 ratio, 2 brand new Hoosier street td that are one
track use old the other 2 will need replacing soon as the handling left to
right is noticeably different. Minilite wheels, fuel cell, 14:1 pistons, spv4
cam shaft, roll cage, every single thing you can throw at it, it has it. Car
runs great.

Car is silver with a black stripe number 168. I ran it labor day weekend at
limerock park during the vintage festival. I finished 6th, 5th, 5th,
5th(second in class it was midgets vs mgbs), and from 21st place in the rain I
finished 6th.. The car is very fast, easy to drive, a TON of fun to drive. You
won't be sorry if you come take a look. I can send pictures off list.
$13,000 obo

Reason for selling: we just bought an original 58 bugeye race car prepared by
predator. And I'm going to dabble with that now.

If it doesn't sell it will be stored for one year and my cousin will race it,
as I mentioned before no problems!

Sincerely,

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 14 15:59:25 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:59:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Chart showing ZDDP levels in Mobile oils
Message-ID: <3323D61E092D4A8ABE701C3EB5705C6C@Home>

> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Files/Mobil_1_Product_Guide.pdf

From pelliott at innercite.com  Wed Sep 14 16:55:54 2011
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat options
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I need seats for my 1962 MK2 Sprite.

What fits?  Who sells them?  

I have two little buckets I bought 12 years ago, but they hurt my ever
widening posterior.  I have the option of getting them recovered and foam
added for $300 each. I found something similar on Ebay for $595 each..
http://tinyurl.com/4xpmt4n

I see that I can get a pair of Miata seats for under $200, but do they fit
without the back being straight up and thus uncomfortable?

Any other options?

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 17:29:00 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:29:00 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] : Re:  Later Mini -is price appropriate?
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Rick, 

You are correct. What would you do with the all the spare parts if you only had 1 spridget.

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:31:09 
To: spridgets at autox.team.net<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] : Re:  Later Mini -is price appropriate?

You don't get it Mark.  Two Sprites and a Mini is NOT too many.  You can never
have too many LBC's.

Besides, I thought the Mini was for Tamara.  :-)

Rick
'59 & '61 Sprites
'79 Party Midget

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:12 PM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> The consensus seems to be to buy it. Anyone want to buy my '62 MKII for
> whatever the Mini costs me?
> Pictures at:
> http://s734.photobucket.com/albums/ww349/bugeye8016/MK%20II%20reassembly/
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep 14 17:48:16 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:48:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
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Hello Mark,

     At the ABFM -PDX swop meet they were asking $4500 for a couple of
     "drivers".. and upwards of $20000 for "show quality" (my quotes)
     original Mini's... If the engine is the only problem, $3000 is a
     great buy..

     IMHO    YMMV

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Iraqi rifle for sale. Never fired. Dropped once. 

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 14 19:52:45 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:52:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat options
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What about these seats on ebay...
http://tinyurl.com/43ozjpe

Although I really think you should locate stock seats and recover them.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:56 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat options

I need seats for my 1962 MK2 Sprite.

What fits?  Who sells them?  

I have two little buckets I bought 12 years ago, but they hurt my ever
widening posterior.  I have the option of getting them recovered and foam
added for $300 each. I found something similar on Ebay for $595 each..
http://tinyurl.com/4xpmt4n

I see that I can get a pair of Miata seats for under $200, but do they fit
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Any other options?
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 14 19:54:59 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:54:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche
Message-ID: <00b801cc734a$7a5cd4a0$6f167de0$@net>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2037344/Get-church-style-Bride-spe
nds-SIX-years-turning-rusty-VW-Beetle-25k-Porsche-time-wedding.html

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Sep 14 19:30:17 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:30:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
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Now how did I know Tamara wanted the car!?  Ha! She'll have that thing
running rings around Audi's in no time.  I am a but confused about the
turbo in the rear though.  Anyone??

What David said.  Go for it! It may not be able to be her daily transport
but the price sounds good.  It'll tale some $$ to make it right no doubt
but I don't think you can go wrong.  Pike's Peak, once they pave it??  :-)

Dave W. Let me know if she doesn't get it.  I'm in line behind Booker!


> I took Tamara up to Ft. Collins recently in the MKII (got great mileage on
> the
> way up-75 mi, 1.65 US gal) and stopped by the garage of an acquaintance
> that
> does LBC reconstructions. He has a later (hidden hinge) Mini with a 1275
> and a
> turbo in it (turbo in the rear?), the owner has had problems keeping the
> head
> gasket intact (Surprise), and is wanting to get out of it after the head
> gets
> redone (again). the paint is fair, LHD, good interior, all of the S mods
> on
> it, he said the owner wants $3k for it. Tamara REALLY wants it.
> Is that a fair price? I paid $3k for my '58 BE not running 3 years ago.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016

From pelliott at innercite.com  Wed Sep 14 20:22:25 2011
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:22:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat options
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	<1662C4FB15F44523B81433DFE019B76D@blackbox2>
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Those are very nice, but I don't necessarily want to double the value of the
car...

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Hedin [mailto:dlh2001 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:53 PM
To: 'Patrick Elliott'; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Seat options

What about these seats on ebay...
http://tinyurl.com/43ozjpe

Although I really think you should locate stock seats and recover them.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:56 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat options

I need seats for my 1962 MK2 Sprite.

What fits?  Who sells them?  

I have two little buckets I bought 12 years ago, but they hurt my ever
widening posterior.  I have the option of getting them recovered and foam
added for $300 each. I found something similar on Ebay for $595 each..
http://tinyurl.com/4xpmt4n

I see that I can get a pair of Miata seats for under $200, but do they fit
without the back being straight up and thus uncomfortable?

Any other options?
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 20:49:49 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:49:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] : Re: Later Mini -is price appropriate?
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Can I rent the space in your garage your three cars don't occupy???
Herb

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> You don't get it Mark.  Two Sprites and a Mini is NOT too many.  You can
> never
> have too many LBC's.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 14 21:01:21 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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Yikes, Kate.  Sure you're ready for the hustle and bustle of North Idaho?  :-)

Good luck,

Rick


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--- On Wed, 9/14/11, kgb at frontiernet.net <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

From: kgb at frontiernet.net <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
To:
Cc: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 2:09 PM

I'm right here, Dave. Trying to get my house ready to put on the market for a
move to North Idaho. Being in the middle of Nowhere has its advantages, but
being alone is definitely not one of them.

Kate
>
> On 9/9/2011 8:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> > They don't intimidate me... they're just hard to find  :)
> >
> > --
> > Dave G  KK7SS
> >   Richland, WA
> >
> > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> > '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 14 21:18:17 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:18:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
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I have no idea. I'm trying to remember just how many years it's been since I wore a pretty dress and heels. Elko's idea of fancy dress is clean Wranglers and nothing unpleasant stuck to your boots.

Kate

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To: kgb at frontiernet.net
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:01:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car

Yikes, Kate. Sure you're ready for the hustle and bustle of North Idaho? :-) 

Good luck, 

Rick 

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From: kgb at frontiernet.net <kgb at frontiernet.net> 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car 
To: 
Cc: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 2:09 PM 


I'm right here, Dave. Trying to get my house ready to put on the market for a move to North Idaho. Being in the middle of Nowhere has its advantages, but being alone is definitely not one of them. 

Kate 
> 
> On 9/9/2011 8:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: 
> > They don't intimidate me... they're just hard to find :) 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Dave G KK7SS 
> > Richland, WA 
> > 
> > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. 
> > '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :( 
> > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) 
> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid 
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 15 05:20:47 2011
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Subject: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche
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http://tinyurl.com/632kx8k

 

 

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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Thu Sep 15 06:02:04 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:02:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
Message-ID: <1023301738-1316088125-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1605250793-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each of the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I will camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.  I will likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business afloat. 
As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the prohibitive cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I can't afford to take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation, maintenance, parts... So back to planning. 
Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town until parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might be perfect. 
So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my criteria. 

*My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition. 
*Manual transmissions only!
*The car must be fun to drive. 
*The car must be reliable. 
*Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires. 
*I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's. 
*I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free driving. 
*A/C and cruise control would be ideal. 
*25+ MPG

Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Sep 15 07:34:25 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche
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Nice story.

I liked this blog entry:

"......There are 1000's of look a-like Ferrari's at car shows. The owners even  
wear Ferrari shirts, the cars have Ferrari badges on them, they fly  Ferrari 
flags and drink coffee from Ferrari mugs. Some even try to blag  that the car is 
a Ferrari. But go and look at the DVLA tax disk and you  will see what it really 
is. Its a fibreglass kit car made in the style  of a Ferrari. Its no more a 
Ferrari than I am. This lady owns a VW Beetle and the DVLA tax disk will say its 
a  Volkswagen not a Porsche."

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
1963 Pink Sprite Mk II - fake
1961 Innocenti 950 Spider - real





________________________________
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To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2011 7:20:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche

http://tinyurl.com/632kx8k

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 15 08:00:58 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:00:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
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So you are looking for and have specified a Miata- what is your real question?
(and a good choice it WOULD be)
BillM

> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:02:04 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
>
> I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've
wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic
idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each of
the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I will
camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.  I will
likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business afloat.
> As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I
had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the prohibitive
cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I can't afford to
take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation, maintenance, parts... So back
to planning.
> Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus
it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town until
parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might be
perfect.
> So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my
criteria.
>
> *My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition.
> *Manual transmissions only!
> *The car must be fun to drive.
> *The car must be reliable.
> *Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires.
> *I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's.
> *I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free
driving.
> *A/C and cruise control would be ideal.
> *25+ MPG
>
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Thu Sep 15 08:09:02 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:09:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
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Bill, 
This is one of those times where I just want a few more eyes, because I have occasionally missed a very obvious or much better choice. But yes, I am hard pressed to come up with a better option than a Miata!
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:00:58 
To: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>; spridget list<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car


So you are looking for and have specified a Miata- what is your real question? (and a good choice it WOULD be)
BillM 

> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:02:04 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
> 
> I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each of the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I will camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.  I will likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business afloat. 
> As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the prohibitive cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I can't afford to take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation, maintenance, parts... So back to planning. 
> Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town until parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might be perfect. 
> So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my criteria. 
> 
> *My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition. 
> *Manual transmissions only!
> *The car must be fun to drive. 
> *The car must be reliable. 
> *Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires. 
> *I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's. 
> *I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free driving. 
> *A/C and cruise control would be ideal. 
> *25+ MPG
> 
> Drew
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 08:10:50 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:10:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
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Andrew,
I think you answered your own question "*I need a securely lockable trunk at
least as big as a Miata's." I hear they are very reliable.
Lin


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:

> I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that
> I've wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The
> basic idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in
> each of the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me!
> ;) I will camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in
> hotels.  I will likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my
> business afloat.
> As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I
> had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the
> prohibitive cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I
> can't afford to take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation,
> maintenance, parts... So back to planning.
> Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus
> it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town
> until parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might
> be perfect.
> So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my
> criteria.
>
> *My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition.
> *Manual transmissions only!
> *The car must be fun to drive.
> *The car must be reliable.
> *Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires.
> *I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's.
> *I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free
> driving.
> *A/C and cruise control would be ideal.
> *25+ MPG
>
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 08:15:19 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:15:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
In-Reply-To: <1316017905.60032.YahooMailNeo@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I agree very good price, and as I understand it S models or component parts
are very desirable. Ask Frankie about the Mini classics.
Lin

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mark,
> BUY IT.  Original Minis are goofy money  and have been for a few years.
> I haven't seen any running original Mini go for less the $5k in a while -
> and
> those are not necessarily restored, nice examples. Alternatively, you could
> contact me off-line and tell me where it is...
>
>  - David Booker
> Long Island -
> too many projects and vehicles already, but would figure it out anyway.
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 08:19:56 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:19:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
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Drew,
If you want ALL those attributes, you're basically looking for a Miata
or a MR2 Spyder. Early Miatas can easily be had for well $5k, Early examples
of MR2 Spyder can be found around there, but most are from a bit more to about
twice that price. Both are nimble, fun, have cruise and a/c and minimal but
adequate storage if you travel light and alone. An accessory to explore would
be a small motorcycle trailer to pull behind. There are even little
tent-campers in the 2.5' x 2.5' (my approximation) footprint-sized class. 
 
I've been thinking about a similar road trip for a while now. Particularly the
Al-Can highway up to Alaska. Not yet quite to the point where I can do it, but
maybe in a couple of years. Super 7 with tiny trailer has always been
prominent in my plans, but MR2/Miata would be infinitely more practical and
comfortable. (bones creaking more in recent years that when the plan was first
formed)
 
 - David Booker
Long Island

From: Andrew Payne
<andrewpayne at intrex.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:02 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about
buying another car

I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross
country trip that I've wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do
the trip. The basic idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a
day or two in each of the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're
dead to me! ;) I will camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few
nights in hotels.  I will likely do it in several regional trips so that I can
keep my business afloat. 
As a car guy, the question of what car to take has
always been important. I had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to
terms with the prohibitive cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe
both. I can't afford to take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation,
maintenance, parts... So back to planning. 
Years ago I thought a BGT was the
perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus it would plan my trip: I drive till I
breakdown, and I explore the town until parts arrive. I still think it would
be a good choice. A Miata might be perfect. 
So the open question is what car
do I start looking for? Below is my criteria. 

*My budget will be a max of
$5000. This is for road ready condition. 
*Manual transmissions only!
*The car
must be fun to drive. 
*The car must be reliable. 
*Parts should be readily
available, and affordable. This includes tires. 
*I need a securely lockable
trunk at least as big as a Miata's. 
*I need to be able to reasonably expect
30,000 miles of mostly trouble free driving. 
*A/C and cruise control would be
ideal. 
*25+ MPG

Drew
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep 15 08:28:16 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:28:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
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With all of your qualifications, there is still one question not asked, What
color of Miata are you going to get?

;-)

Lester

.. from what I've read, long distance in a Lotus in not a good thing.


On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Andrew Payne wrote:

> I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've
wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic
idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each of
the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I will
camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.  I will
likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business afloat.
> As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I
had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the prohibitive
cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I can't afford to
take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation, maintenance, parts... So back
to planning.
> Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus
it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town until
parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might be
perfect.
> So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my
criteria.
>
> *My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition.
> *Manual transmissions only!
> *The car must be fun to drive.
> *The car must be reliable.
> *Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires.
> *I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's.
> *I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free
driving.
> *A/C and cruise control would be ideal.
> *25+ MPG
>
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Sep 15 08:44:35 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:44:35 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
Message-ID: <20110915.084435.28741.0@webmail52.dca.untd.com>

The reason to sell the MKII would be that I'm already getting grief from SWMBO
about the number of cars-10- in the driveway/garage. She took a picture the
other weekend of the Tercel Farm as she calls it- 5 running T4WD wagons plus a
stripped shell. Two Sprites, A Safari Van, An F-350 crew cab, and a 1976 Dodge
motor home. It's a good thing we have 12.5 acres, otherwise they'd run us out
of a subdivision ;}
Plus at least some of the parts cross over to a Mini.
I'll check with Bill and see if the $3K he quoted me is a good figure, and
have him keep me in the loop as to its progress towards sale-Heck I could
probably buy it cheaper if the head were in a box.


Mark Haynes
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Thu Sep 15 08:46:03 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:46:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
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I've always liked Parisian Blue, but white could be very useful as a fill card for photography. 
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:28:16 
To: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
Cc: Spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car

With all of your qualifications, there is still one question not asked, What color of Miata are you going to get?

;-)

Lester

... from what I've read, long distance in a Lotus in not a good thing.


On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Andrew Payne wrote:

> I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each of the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I will camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.  I will likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business afloat. 
> As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the prohibitive cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I can't afford to take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation, maintenance, parts... So back to planning. 
> Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town until parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might be perfect. 
> So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my criteria. 
> 
> *My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition. 
> *Manual transmissions only!
> *The car must be fun to drive. 
> *The car must be reliable. 
> *Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires. 
> *I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's. 
> *I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free driving. 
> *A/C and cruise control would be ideal. 
> *25+ MPG
> 
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Sep 15 09:38:00 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:38:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
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Miata.......


On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Andrew Payne wrote:

> I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've
wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic
idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each of
the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I will
camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.  I will
likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business afloat.
> As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I
had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the prohibitive
cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I can't afford to
take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation, maintenance, parts... So back
to planning.
> Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus
it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town until
parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might be
perfect.
> So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my
criteria.
>
> *My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition.
> *Manual transmissions only!
> *The car must be fun to drive.
> *The car must be reliable.
> *Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires.
> *I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's.
> *I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free
driving.
> *A/C and cruise control would be ideal.
> *25+ MPG
>
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> _______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 15 11:05:12 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:05:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Chart showing ZDDP levels in Mobile oils
Message-ID: <44f71.427447c8.3ba38a48@aol.com>

So much ZDDP does a Spridget engine need?  How little ZDDP do other  oils 
have?
 
In a message dated 15/09/2011 00:31:12 GMT Daylight Time,  
mdrowe at optonline.net writes:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Files/Mobil_1_Product_Guide.pdf

From rich_ball at mindspring.com  Thu Sep 15 11:09:01 2011
From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:09:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Name that car
References: <412712665.1502473.1316056697468.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1C632D5FCBA94BF0A0722D3A48056FCC@psych.washington.edu>

Having just returned home from a trip to Northern Idaho to go to the 
Amusement park and Northeast Washington to visit my Aunt and Uncle, I have 
to say I'm not sure your wardrobe will need to change all that much.  I had 
to stop on the way at a local hardware/everything store to pick up some hose 
washers for the motorhome.  The guy in line in front of me was buying two 
new pairs of Wrangler for him and his wife.  I could tell this guy liked his 
wrangles because he was dressed head to toe in Wrangler's.  Hat, Shirt, 
Jacket, Pants, Belt, Wallet, and Boots, all Wrangler.  Couldn't tell, but 
I'm betting shorts and socks were Wrangler too.  Just saying, don't hang up 
those Wranglers yet.

Of course Coeur D'Alene will be the exception with it tourist draw.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car


>I have no idea. I'm trying to remember just how many years it's been since 
>I wore a pretty dress and heels. Elko's idea of fancy dress is clean 
>Wranglers and nothing unpleasant stuck to your boots.
>
> Kate
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "HealeyRick" <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
> To: kgb at frontiernet.net
> Cc: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:01:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
>
> Yikes, Kate. Sure you're ready for the hustle and bustle of North Idaho? 
> :-)
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rick
>
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
> --- On Wed, 9/14/11, kgb at frontiernet.net <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> From: kgb at frontiernet.net <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that car
> To:
> Cc: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 2:09 PM
>
>
> I'm right here, Dave. Trying to get my house ready to put on the market 
> for a move to North Idaho. Being in the middle of Nowhere has its 
> advantages, but being alone is definitely not one of them.
>
> Kate
>>
>> On 9/9/2011 8:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
>> > They don't intimidate me... they're just hard to find :)
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Dave G KK7SS
>> > Richland, WA
>> >
>> > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>> > '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
>> > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
>> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Sep 15 11:50:58 2011
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:50:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have a brand they particularly like?  Anything made in the US?  I
want something I can buy parts for when it needs to be rebuilt.

Thanks,
Heard

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Sep 15 12:10:51 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:10:51 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche
References: <00b801cc734a$7a5cd4a0$6f167de0$@net><656BFAA5A18040098D3842B043CCD50D@spider>
	<A8177C898A4B4E22ABCE09CF2A92565E@spider>
Message-ID: <4BE1D095565740EDB7AC4D03614180F2@user8634b3d69b>

Don't go overboard on this car.  It was a kit from

 http://www.chesil.co.uk/

and her father runs the garage where it was built.

But it does look nice.

Guy R Day



----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche


> http://tinyurl.com/632kx8k
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:55 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Frankie Clarici
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 15 13:48:12 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:48:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06AA97AECC6F4EC4A603506B23B0F4B8@spider>

You might ask at NAPA; they'd know who has offered rebuild parts in the
past.  If you get a good floor jack, you may never have to rebuild it. Got
jack stands?  ...bill in corvallis
=================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:51 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks

Anyone have a brand they particularly like?  Anything made in the US?  I
want something I can buy parts for when it needs to be rebuilt.

Thanks,
Heard
_______________________________________________

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Sep 15 14:05:00 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:05:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
References: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7EAC826E5AE74122A2CFD1EE2FAB9625@CGI.COMMTECH>

Check out NORCO, I got fed up with the junk and bought one about 4 years ago 
and it is still good.  I think they are made in the far east but the quality 
is good and parts are available in the US.  I bought it from Ryder Fleet 
Parts Sales and got free shipping via truck freight, they are heavy.

Mark
Nashville


Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks


> Anyone have a brand they particularly like?  Anything made in the US?  I
> want something I can buy parts for when it needs to be rebuilt.
>
> Thanks,
> Heard
> _______________________________________________

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Sep 15 14:40:20 2011
From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316119220.17693.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I have a sears craftman with one pump to load that I like a lot, even came
with 
a set of jack stands.
        Crash



Anyone have a brand they
particularly like?  Anything made in the US?  I
want something I can buy parts
for when it needs to be rebuilt.

Thanks,
Heard

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Thu Sep 15 15:11:01 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:11:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche
In-Reply-To: <1316093665.17248.YahooMailRC@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <00b801cc734a$7a5cd4a0$6f167de0$@net>
	<656BFAA5A18040098D3842B043CCD50D@spider>
	<A8177C898A4B4E22ABCE09CF2A92565E@spider>
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I just had a hard time with "clapped out" ....

**




On 9/15/2011 9:34 AM, Jay wrote:
> Nice story.
>
> I liked this blog entry:
>
> "......There are 1000's of look a-like Ferrari's at car shows. The owners even  
> wear Ferrari shirts, the cars have Ferrari badges on them, they fly  Ferrari 
> flags and drink coffee from Ferrari mugs. Some even try to blag  that the car is 
> a Ferrari. But go and look at the DVLA tax disk and you  will see what it really 
> is. Its a fibreglass kit car made in the style  of a Ferrari. Its no more a 
> Ferrari than I am. This lady owns a VW Beetle and the DVLA tax disk will say its 
> a  Volkswagen not a Porsche."
>
>  jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> 1963 Pink Sprite Mk II - fake
> 1961 Innocenti 950 Spider - real
>
>
>
>
>
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Sep 15 16:45:29 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:45:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
In-Reply-To: <1023301738-1316088125-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1605250793-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
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Message-ID: <7F9DE0042B404E3F9D7BCB91BCEAD52F@blackbox2>

Do it in a Spridget...or perhaps are you on the wrong email list?

Cruise control? A/C?  What are you talking about?  It's called your foot and
the top down.

You already have stated your willing "drive till it breaks down". 
So I ask "Is this going to be the adventure of your life or not?"

FWIW, I plan something similar.  I've been tweeking my Bugeye and I now
think it is ready for the long haul. 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Payne
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:02 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car

I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've
wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic
idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each
of the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I
will camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.
I will likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business
afloat. 
As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I
had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the
prohibitive cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I
can't afford to take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation,
maintenance, parts... So back to planning. 
Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus
it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town
until parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might
be perfect. 
So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my
criteria. 

*My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition. 
*Manual transmissions only!
*The car must be fun to drive. 
*The car must be reliable. 
*Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires. 
*I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's. 
*I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free
driving. 
*A/C and cruise control would be ideal. 
*25+ MPG

Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
_______________________________________________

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Sep 15 17:17:02 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:17:02 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS Later Mini price-Now Rear Turbo
Message-ID: <20110915.171702.14621.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>

I was confused about that as well and asked, apparently the owner thought that
there wasn't enough room for the turbo under the bonnet, so he mounted it in
the rear and plumbed the intake to the back. I commented that I thought that
that would make for a great deal of turbo lag, but the response was that there
wasn't, but it did go through head gaskets and rings- I'm not sure what kind
of boost he was running, but if you can't keep head gaskets on it (I think
that I'd use a Metro Turbo gasket myself) and you're going through rings that
you've got too much boost and too much heat.
Maybe add an intercooler as well to the mix and it might last.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016

---------- Original Message ----------
From: dwoerpel at wi.net
To: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:30:17 -0500 (CDT)

Now how did I know Tamara wanted the car!?  Ha! She'll have that thing
running rings around Audi's in no time.  I am a but confused about the
turbo in the rear though.  Anyone??

What David said.  Go for it! It may not be able to be her daily transport
but the price sounds good.  It'll tale some $$ to make it right no doubt
but I don't think you can go wrong.  Pike's Peak, once they pave it??  :-)

Dave W. Let me know if she doesn't get it.  I'm in line behind Booker!


> I took Tamara up to Ft. Collins recently in the MKII (got great mileage on
> the
> way up-75 mi, 1.65 US gal) and stopped by the garage of an acquaintance
> that
> does LBC reconstructions. He has a later (hidden hinge) Mini with a 1275
> and a
> turbo in it (turbo in the rear?), the owner has had problems keeping the
> head
> gasket intact (Surprise), and is wanting to get out of it after the head
> gets
> redone (again). the paint is fair, LHD, good interior, all of the S mods
> on
> it, he said the owner wants $3k for it. Tamara REALLY wants it.
> Is that a fair price? I paid $3k for my '58 BE not running 3 years ago.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016
>

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From kmappley at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 17:19:55 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:19:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Thinking about another car
Message-ID: <CANv6dsCSG-Wet4XKQyfFXfBieQ0FR+Q6qs260OsBpDk-wf_67Q@mail.gmail.com>

Be brave, do it in a Spridget!! You will get better gas mileage and harbor
more good will! ( Miatas are everywhere, spridgets are not and get noticed).

Kurt.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 15 17:44:37 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316130277.47434.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mine is a Sears/Craftsman unit that probably weighs in at more than 50 pounds.
I've had it for 25 or 30 years, and I acquired it from my dad, who had owned
it for what has to be at least twenty years before that. It has never been
rebuilt, has never leaked, will hold a car all day if you asked it to (though
I always use jack stands), and its thick gauge steel is scarred from many,
many projects. There is a grease fitting or two that I probably greased up
once, maybe twice.  Now, I'm no professional mechanic, so the thing sits
unused for weeks in between jobs, but I'd say it has done a more than adequate
job for me.
 
We've done this talk before and I think the consensus has in the
past been that you can buy any of a number of old jacks (via garage sale /
yard sale / estate sale / going out of business sale / etc. and be perfectly
happy. OR you can spend really big bucks and buy a professional-grade one new
somewhere, but I don't think anybody was overly happy with any consumer model
of recent vintage. Buy a Sears now and you'll need to rebuild it in 5 years -
same for virtually anything else on the market.
 
Watching craigslist may be
your best bet.
 
 - David

From: Heard Saxon <heard at datatrontech.net>
To:
Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:50
PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks

Anyone have a brand they particularly
like?  Anything made in the US?  I
want something I can buy parts for when it
needs to be rebuilt.

Thanks,
Heard
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From kmappley at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 18:00:32 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:00:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
Message-ID: <CANv6dsC1zNOidr8Pcmzy_1emPc5CXnjYnu6NZQNF=n7zoJT6Uw@mail.gmail.com>

My wife claims there is more room in the trunk (boot!) of our Spridgets than
in our Miata but when we go long distance traveling that is usually what we
take. I've got similar trips planned only I am picking out only interesting
hi-ways and plan on doing it in my 40MPG midget. I know, I know, don't say
it!!
BTW, a friend who has done the Alaskan hi-way a couple of times recommends
NOT taking a sports car but a Geo Tracker or similar if I want the top down
experience. Roads aren't that good.

Kurt.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 18:08:26 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:08:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
Message-ID: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>

I know there are several vintage bicycle enthusiasts here so please forgive
the non Spridget post.
My wife just bought a vintage Norman of England bicycle and she was asking
questions about it and I thought of you guys.
So where do I go for info on the thing?
Anyone know about this bike?Can put up a picture or two if anyone is
interested.

Rick (not a bike guy) Bastedo

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Thu Sep 15 18:14:25 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:14:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] How to turn a VW into a Porsche
In-Reply-To: <4E7269E5.9060005@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <1856986316.1295685.1316132065352.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Back in the mid-60's my roommate had a '58 Speedster and my brother had a 356 coupe (pre A). A few years ago another friend and I took a similar VW-based Speedster "replica" for a test ride. It drove like a clapped-out VW Beetle. The real deals definitely do not.



----- Original Message -----
From: "lcjones" <lcjones at croakingfrog.net>

I just had a hard time with "clapped out" ..


On 9/15/2011 9:34 AM, Jay wrote:
> Nice story.
>
> I liked this blog entry: This lady owns a VW Beetle and the DVLA tax disk will say its 
> a  Volkswagen not a Porsche."

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Sep 15 18:24:52 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:24:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <06AA97AECC6F4EC4A603506B23B0F4B8@spider>
Message-ID: <CA97E564.32863%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I doubt anybody makes anything like that in the US anymore, but my Harbor
Freight jack came with an extra set of seals. That was eighteen years ago.
So far I've never even had to add oil.  At $99, it's not a big deal even if
I end up having to replace it every 30 years. It's the long one with the
speed pedal and 37" lifting range. It's never had any trouble lifting either
end of the Ranchero.
BZ

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Sep 15 19:14:11 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:14:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
In-Reply-To: <20110915.084435.28741.0@webmail52.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110915.084435.28741.0@webmail52.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <50792.174.159.12.162.1316135651.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Head inna box?  Youse wanna head inna box!?  I know a guy that knows a
guy....

anon


> The reason to sell the MKII would be that I'm already getting grief from
> SWMBO
> about the number of cars-10- in the driveway/garage. She took a picture
> the
> other weekend of the Tercel Farm as she calls it- 5 running T4WD wagons
> plus a
> stripped shell. Two Sprites, A Safari Van, An F-350 crew cab, and a 1976
> Dodge
> motor home. It's a good thing we have 12.5 acres, otherwise they'd run us
> out
> of a subdivision ;}
> Plus at least some of the parts cross over to a Mini.
> I'll check with Bill and see if the $3K he quoted me is a good figure, and
> have him keep me in the loop as to its progress towards sale-Heck I could
> probably buy it cheaper if the head were in a box.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Thu Sep 15 19:31:48 2011
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:31:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS Later Mini price-Now Rear Turbo
In-Reply-To: <20110915.171702.14621.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110915.171702.14621.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <00d401cc7410$6731d6c0$35958440$@brokaw@cox.net>

Watching some of the Saturday morning car shows, I have seen a couple turbo
installs where the turbos are mounted where the mufflers were.  I too
thought that was a LONG intake air track but it was a packaging solution. 

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:17 PM
To: dwoerpel at wi.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WAS Later Mini price-Now Rear Turbo

I was confused about that as well and asked, apparently the owner thought
that
there wasn't enough room for the turbo under the bonnet, so he mounted it in
the rear and plumbed the intake to the back. I commented that I thought that
that would make for a great deal of turbo lag, but the response was that
there
wasn't, but it did go through head gaskets and rings- I'm not sure what kind
of boost he was running, but if you can't keep head gaskets on it (I think
that I'd use a Metro Turbo gasket myself) and you're going through rings
that
you've got too much boost and too much heat.
Maybe add an intercooler as well to the mix and it might last.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016

---------- Original Message ----------
From: dwoerpel at wi.net
To: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:30:17 -0500 (CDT)

Now how did I know Tamara wanted the car!?  Ha! She'll have that thing
running rings around Audi's in no time.  I am a but confused about the
turbo in the rear though.  Anyone??

What David said.  Go for it! It may not be able to be her daily transport
but the price sounds good.  It'll tale some $$ to make it right no doubt
but I don't think you can go wrong.  Pike's Peak, once they pave it??  :-)

Dave W. Let me know if she doesn't get it.  I'm in line behind Booker!


> I took Tamara up to Ft. Collins recently in the MKII (got great mileage on
> the
> way up-75 mi, 1.65 US gal) and stopped by the garage of an acquaintance
> that
> does LBC reconstructions. He has a later (hidden hinge) Mini with a 1275
> and a
> turbo in it (turbo in the rear?), the owner has had problems keeping the
> head
> gasket intact (Surprise), and is wanting to get out of it after the head
> gets
> redone (again). the paint is fair, LHD, good interior, all of the S mods
> on
> it, he said the owner wants $3k for it. Tamara REALLY wants it.
> Is that a fair price? I paid $3k for my '58 BE not running 3 years ago.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 19:36:23 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:36:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
In-Reply-To: <DA9B9099-319D-438D-B8E4-2B381845265F@comcast.net>
References: <1023301738-1316088125-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1605250793-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry><DA9B9099-319D-438D-B8E4-2B381845265F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1316137008.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

A number of  years ago I choose a Miata for my sister to buy. I drove it but was not inspired. My choice would be a little more practical ......

A early Mini Cooper S (red of course) 

(I am biased I had one until my son wanted a car to go with him to college.)

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:28:16 
To: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
Cc: Spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car

With all of your qualifications, there is still one question not asked, What
color of Miata are you going to get?

;-)

Lester

.. from what I've read, long distance in a Lotus in not a good thing.


On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Andrew Payne wrote:

> I've spent the past few days thinking hard on a cross country trip that I've
wanted to take for years. Next year I may be able to do the trip. The basic
idea is to be on the road for about 80 days and spend a day or two in each of
the 49 states. (Hawaii until you build a bridge, you're dead to me! ;) I will
camp most nights, stay with friends some, and a few nights in hotels.  I will
likely do it in several regional trips so that I can keep my business afloat.
> As a car guy, the question of what car to take has always been important. I
had thought an Elise until yesterday when I came to terms with the prohibitive
cost. I can do the trip, I could buy the car, maybe both. I can't afford to
take that car on this trip. Tires, depreciation, maintenance, parts... So back
to planning.
> Years ago I thought a BGT was the perfect car. Fosters goodwill, fun, plus
it would plan my trip: I drive till I breakdown, and I explore the town until
parts arrive. I still think it would be a good choice. A Miata might be
perfect.
> So the open question is what car do I start looking for? Below is my
criteria.
>
> *My budget will be a max of $5000. This is for road ready condition.
> *Manual transmissions only!
> *The car must be fun to drive.
> *The car must be reliable.
> *Parts should be readily available, and affordable. This includes tires.
> *I need a securely lockable trunk at least as big as a Miata's.
> *I need to be able to reasonably expect 30,000 miles of mostly trouble free
driving.
> *A/C and cruise control would be ideal.
> *25+ MPG
>
> Drew
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Sep 15 19:41:35 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:41:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS Later Mini price-Now Rear Turbo
In-Reply-To: <20110915.171702.14621.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110915.171702.14621.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <50968.174.159.12.162.1316137295.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Thanks for the explanation!  That's just weird, imho.  Very strange setup
and have never heard of that before.  Drop in a Honda Vtec and be done. 
Minimania has a kit.  ;-)  just kidding...but I'd like to drive one.
Dave

> I was confused about that as well and asked, apparently the owner thought
> that there wasn't enough room for the turbo under the bonnet, so he
> mounted it in the rear and plumbed the intake to the back. I commented
> that I thought that that would make for a great deal of turbo lag, but the
> response was that there wasn't, but it did go through head gaskets and
> rings- I'm not sure what kind of boost he was running, but if you can't
> keep head gaskets on it (I think that I'd use a Metro Turbo gasket myself)
> and you're going through rings that you've got too much boost and too much
> heat.
> Maybe add an intercooler as well to the mix and it might last.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: dwoerpel at wi.net
> To: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Later Mini -is price appropriate?
> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:30:17 -0500 (CDT)
>
> Now how did I know Tamara wanted the car!?  Ha! She'll have that thing
> running rings around Audi's in no time.  I am a but confused about the
> turbo in the rear though.  Anyone??
>
> What David said.  Go for it! It may not be able to be her daily transport
> but the price sounds good.  It'll tale some $$ to make it right no doubt
> but I don't think you can go wrong.  Pike's Peak, once they pave it??  :-)
>
> Dave W. Let me know if she doesn't get it.  I'm in line behind Booker!
>
>
>> I took Tamara up to Ft. Collins recently in the MKII (got great mileage
>> on
>> the
>> way up-75 mi, 1.65 US gal) and stopped by the garage of an acquaintance
>> that
>> does LBC reconstructions. He has a later (hidden hinge) Mini with a 1275
>> and a
>> turbo in it (turbo in the rear?), the owner has had problems keeping the
>> head
>> gasket intact (Surprise), and is wanting to get out of it after the head
>> gets
>> redone (again). the paint is fair, LHD, good interior, all of the S mods
>> on
>> it, he said the owner wants $3k for it. Tamara REALLY wants it.
>> Is that a fair price? I paid $3k for my '58 BE not running 3 years ago.
>>
>>
>> Mark Haynes
>> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
>> HAN6L12977
>> HAN5L8016
>>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 15 19:51:55 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:51:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <1316130277.47434.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1316130277.47434.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0682401F3ED64678B47310C30A867EE1@spider>

Yes, the old ones do tend to last. I got mine from a local tire retreader in
a town of 40,000 back in 1966. Remember when there were tire retreaders all
over the place? It was used and they didn't want to replace the seal. I
replaced it and still have it. ...bill in corvallis
====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:45 PM
To: Heard Saxon; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Floor jacks

Mine is a Sears/Craftsman unit that probably weighs in at more than 50
pounds.
I've had it for 25 or 30 years, and I acquired it from my dad, who had owned
it for what has to be at least twenty years before that. It has never been
rebuilt, has never leaked, will hold a car all day if you asked it to
(though
I always use jack stands), and its thick gauge steel is scarred from many,
many projects. There is a grease fitting or two that I probably greased up
once, maybe twice.  Now, I'm no professional mechanic, so the thing sits
unused for weeks in between jobs, but I'd say it has done a more than
adequate
job for me.
 
We've done this talk before and I think the consensus has in the
past been that you can buy any of a number of old jacks (via garage sale /
yard sale / estate sale / going out of business sale / etc. and be perfectly
happy. OR you can spend really big bucks and buy a professional-grade one
new
somewhere, but I don't think anybody was overly happy with any consumer
model
of recent vintage. Buy a Sears now and you'll need to rebuild it in 5 years
-
same for virtually anything else on the market.
 
Watching craigslist may be
your best bet.
 
 - David

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 15 20:55:35 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:55:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <CANv6dsC1zNOidr8Pcmzy_1emPc5CXnjYnu6NZQNF=n7zoJT6Uw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANv6dsC1zNOidr8Pcmzy_1emPc5CXnjYnu6NZQNF=n7zoJT6Uw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50154F9F71D144F7827F5BBC94283165@spider>

You gotta start letting her ride up front!

==========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kurt Appley
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:01 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.

My wife claims there is more room in the trunk (boot!) of our Spridgets than
in our Miata but when we go long distance traveling that is usually what we
take.  . . . .

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 15 20:59:07 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:59:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6A440BD59F1F4AC6845D67BC7FB86365@spider>

Google   Norman of England bicycle
===============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:08 PM
To: SPRIDGETS
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle

I know there are several vintage bicycle enthusiasts here so please forgive
the non Spridget post.
My wife just bought a vintage Norman of England bicycle and she was asking
questions about it and I thought of you guys.
So where do I go for info on the thing?
Anyone know about this bike?Can put up a picture or two if anyone is
interested.

Rick (not a bike guy) Bastedo
_______________________________________________

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep 15 21:31:27 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:31:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <189843908.27957.1316143887413.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cycles

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Rick Bastedo" <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know there are several vintage bicycle enthusiasts here so please
> forgive
> 
> the non Spridget post.
> 
> My wife just bought a vintage Norman of England bicycle and she was
> asking
> 
> questions about it and I thought of you guys.
> 
> So where do I go for info on the thing?
> 
> Anyone know about this bike?Can put up a picture or two if anyone is
> 
> interested.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick (not a bike guy) Bastedo

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep 15 22:23:53 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:23:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC on TV
Message-ID: <1374535207.28284.1316147033402.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Just watched tonights episode of "Bones"
Nice classic Mini-Cooper S with minilites got quite a bit of exposure <g>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Sep 15 22:45:50 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:45:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <CA97E564.32863%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <06AA97AECC6F4EC4A603506B23B0F4B8@spider>
	<CA97E564.32863%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <1476047561.20110915214550@pacifier.com>

Hello,

      It's made in China, but I've been happy with my TORIN "race"
jack.

      YMMV
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  I still miss my wife - but my aim is improving! 

From philip.s.jones at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 00:44:25 2011
From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Philip Jones)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:44:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
Message-ID: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>

It's confirmed! Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen-in-Transit
meeting on Saturday, October 1st; 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM; in the Broadview
neighborhood of Seattle WA.

So far, we have Bill M, Bill L, Rick B, Chris K, Rich B, and myself. Chris
is interested in doing some carb work; I have a medium-size laundry list of
minor tasks (rear slave cylinder, oil change, install oil cooler, adjust
valves, etc). Here's the subject I'm providing:
<http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27> http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27

Who else is coming, and what else there is to do, is yet to be determined!
Please post a note if you'd like to come, and describe the project you'd
like to work on! The usual tools, workspace, coffee and beer will be
available; and we'll manage to cobble together some type of group lunch that
will leave you over-fed.

Please join us if you can; and for those that can't we'd be glad to raise a
toast to you!  We'll honor Frank C. and Paul A. in particular.

Thanks!

Phil

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 16 04:55:03 2011
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.

 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget
(1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
________________________________
From: Philip Jones
<philip.s.jones at comcast.net>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday,
September 16, 2011 2:44 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
It's confirmed! Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen-in-Transit
meeting
on Saturday, October 1st; 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM; in the Broadview
neighborhood of
Seattle WA.

So far, we have Bill M, Bill L, Rick B, Chris K, Rich B, and
myself. Chris
is interested in doing some carb work; I have a medium-size
laundry list of
minor tasks (rear slave cylinder, oil change, install oil
cooler, adjust
valves, etc). Here's the subject I'm providing:
<http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27> http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27

Who else is coming,
and what else there is to do, is yet to be determined!
Please post a note if
you'd like to come, and describe the project you'd
like to work on! The usual
tools, workspace, coffee and beer will be
available; and we'll manage to
cobble together some type of group lunch that
will leave you over-fed.

Please
join us if you can; and for those that can't we'd be glad to raise a
toast to
you!  We'll honor Frank C. and Paul A. in particular.

Thanks!

Phil
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 16 06:39:37 2011
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:39:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP7zUt9Rz-EPvW+o1U1-woFvR4jq6cGc5ge8c7EA3V0VqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL117-W28AFDC25BDA6ADA9A0E061C2060@phx.gbl>

I found a couple US made ones searching

www.madeinusa.com

http://www.usjack.com/products.html

and I don't know if all their jack's are made in US, there's

http://www.projacks.com/Default.aspx

There are a few more on there.

I have a Horrible Fright "Race" Jack that I got a few years ago,
1.5 ton, $79 IIRC, works well, even lifting big SUV's.

HTH

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:50:58 -0400
> From: heard at datatrontech.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
>
> Anyone have a brand they particularly like?  Anything made in the US?  I
> want something I can buy parts for when it needs to be rebuilt.
>
> Thanks,
> Heard
> _______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Sep 16 06:49:51 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:49:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re:  NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <464371482.20110916054724@pacifier.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<464371482.20110916054724@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <1543337677.20110916054951@pacifier.com>

This is a forwarded message
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Philip Jones" <philip.s.jones at comcast.net>
Date: Friday, September 16, 2011, 5:47:24 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

===8<==============Original message text===============
Hello Philip,

     I met a lister in at the ABFM-PDX who's name I didn't get who is
     much interested in our little gatherings. Hopefully he will
     contact me about the address and travel arrangements.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
   "I'm dying," Tom croaked.

===8<===========End of original message text===========



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 16 06:51:17 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:51:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
In-Reply-To: <1476047561.20110915214550@pacifier.com>
References: <06AA97AECC6F4EC4A603506B23B0F4B8@spider>
	<CA97E564.32863%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<1476047561.20110915214550@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <78C64DD419904D5C87F7CB8882EA9C19@Home>

>      It's made in China, but I've been happy with my TORIN "race" jack.

Mine died within a few weeks or months, so I asked for parts.  Instead, they 
sent me the entire pump mechanism, which has lasted several years and will 
probably last indefinitely, as I do not use it for any heavy car.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 07:11:21 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:11:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
In-Reply-To: <1023301738-1316088125-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1605250793-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1023301738-1316088125-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1605250793-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-9Y-Ogf-UipRRH6xBL5Fp1Gq+x--srPZ2Q88DRrZGmTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Miata.
I have two.
I've seen NBs (1999-2005) lately go for $5000 or less.  Hardtops can
be had for around $600-1000 that give the car more versatility for
cold and bad weather driving.  They are proven and, regardless of what
others say, they are inspiring.
If you genetically engineered an MGB with some Japanese reliability
genes they you would have a Miata.  Horsepower is not stupendous but
more than adequate, especially relative to an anemic Spridget.  Base
HP in even the early 1990 Miata is like 120.
My 94 has 155,000+ miles and is still going strong.
My 96 is a V8 swap project but has 273,000+ miles on it.
Miata motors have stout internals.  You can bolt on a turbo, add
engine management, and drive it like you stole it.  You don't have to
strengthen the motor internals for forced induction.

People who find Miatas uninspiring or lacking are just upset because
they don't have to work on them very often.  They made a million of
them so used parts are not hard to find.  Aftermarket support is good.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 16 07:28:11 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:28:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
         Peter C

At 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>
>
>Edward Perez
>Summerville, SC
>78 Midget
>(1275)
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 16 07:33:20 2011
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 06:33:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that work, it
would make great T-shirts!

East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/


________________________________
From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: Edward Perez
<eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
         Peter C

At
05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>
>
>Edward Perez
>Summerville, SC
>78 Midget
>(1275)
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 08:35:18 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:35:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvQWvcD0Kjw4kxc-t6GmQop2Mdho65tWTnhi_esR8eoesw@mail.gmail.com>

I see in that picture that your wheel chock has slipped out.
;)

-Trevor

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Philip Jones <philip.s.jones at comcast.net>wrote:

> It's confirmed! Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen-in-Transit
> meeting on Saturday, October 1st; 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM; in the Broadview
> neighborhood of Seattle WA.
>
> So far, we have Bill M, Bill L, Rick B, Chris K, Rich B, and myself. Chris
> is interested in doing some carb work; I have a medium-size laundry list of
> minor tasks (rear slave cylinder, oil change, install oil cooler, adjust
> valves, etc). Here's the subject I'm providing:
> <http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27> http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27
>
> Who else is coming, and what else there is to do, is yet to be determined!
> Please post a note if you'd like to come, and describe the project you'd
> like to work on! The usual tools, workspace, coffee and beer will be
> available; and we'll manage to cobble together some type of group lunch
> that
> will leave you over-fed.
>
> Please join us if you can; and for those that can't we'd be glad to raise a
> toast to you!  We'll honor Frank C. and Paul A. in particular.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Phil
> _______________________________________________
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 09:08:25 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:08:25 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1316185729.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I think the hydraulics from China show the lack of consistency across manufacturers. I have  an engine hoist made in China that started leaking after a year, got a replacement cylinder from a different chinese manufacturer that has worked well for a few years.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Mike Rowe
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Bill L
To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Floor jacks
Sent: Sep 16, 2011 8:51 AM

>      It's made in China, but I've been happy with my TORIN "race" jack.

Mine died within a few weeks or months, so I asked for parts.  Instead, they 
sent me the entire pump mechanism, which has lasted several years and will 
probably last indefinitely, as I do not use it for any heavy car.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Fri Sep 16 09:12:19 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:12:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
Message-ID: <1246952244-1316185940-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246525017-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

The Alaskan leg was the reason a Jeep Wrangler or Land Rover was on my car short list!
The MR2 spyder has way too small of a trunk, but a Miata or MG would be plenty of space. Plus, I got divorced this year, so my wife won't be in the trunk!
Drew
------Original Message------
From: Kurt Appley
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
Sent: Sep 15, 2011 8:00 PM

My wife claims there is more room in the trunk (boot!) of our Spridgets than
in our Miata but when we go long distance traveling that is usually what we
take. I've got similar trips planned only I am picking out only interesting
hi-ways and plan on doing it in my 40MPG midget. I know, I know, don't say
it!!
BTW, a friend who has done the Alaskan hi-way a couple of times recommends
NOT taking a sports car but a Geo Tracker or similar if I want the top down
experience. Roads aren't that good.

Kurt.
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Fri Sep 16 09:34:27 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:34:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
Message-ID: <1263310464-1316187271-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-13344020-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

I had a 92 for 5 years or so and it was a great car. I had to sell it, but I would welcome one back warmly. 
One small advantage of an older car is that when you arrive in an MG or BMW 2002, people strike up a conversation in a way they don't over "everyday" cars. 
Drew
------Original Message------
From: derf
To: Andrew G. Payne
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car
Sent: Sep 16, 2011 9:11 AM

Miata.
I have two.
I've seen NBs (1999-2005) lately go for $5000 or less.  Hardtops can
be had for around $600-1000 that give the car more versatility for
cold and bad weather driving.  They are proven and, regardless of what
others say, they are inspiring.
If you genetically engineered an MGB with some Japanese reliability
genes they you would have a Miata.  Horsepower is not stupendous but
more than adequate, especially relative to an anemic Spridget.  Base
HP in even the early 1990 Miata is like 120.
My 94 has 155,000+ miles and is still going strong.
My 96 is a V8 swap project but has 273,000+ miles on it.
Miata motors have stout internals.  You can bolt on a turbo, add
engine management, and drive it like you stole it.  You don't have to
strengthen the motor internals for forced induction.

People who find Miatas uninspiring or lacking are just upset because
they don't have to work on them very often.  They made a million of
them so used parts are not hard to find.  Aftermarket support is good.


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Sep 16 10:31:37 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:31:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B839FC78-EAC7-445B-81B0-4A1332B7AEEB@mac.com>

Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)

Larry

On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:

> You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that work, it
> would make great T-shirts!
> 
> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> 
> Edward Perez
> Summerville, SC
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> To: Edward Perez
> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> 
> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
>         Peter C
> 
> At
> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>> 
>> 
>> Edward Perez
>> Summerville, SC
>> 78 Midget
>> (1275)
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
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From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Sep 16 10:40:03 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:40:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)

Larry

On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:

> You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that work, it
> would make great T-shirts!
> 
> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> 
> Edward Perez
> Summerville, SC
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> To: Edward Perez
> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> 
> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
>       Peter C
> 
> At
> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>> 
>> 
>> Edward Perez
>> Summerville, SC
>> 78 Midget
>> (1275)
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> _______________________________________________
> 
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Senior IT Program Director
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

"Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller

From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Sep 16 10:43:54 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:43:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D060C644-C505-4B2C-8E81-66051D9840FB@mac.com>

Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)

Larry

On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:

> You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that work, it
> would make great T-shirts!
> 
> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> 
> Edward Perez
> Summerville, SC
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> To: Edward Perez
> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> 
> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
>      Peter C
> 
> At
> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>> 
>> 
>> Edward Perez
>> Summerville, SC
>> 78 Midget
>> (1275)
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> _______________________________________________
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Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

"Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 12:59:09 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:59:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <B839FC78-EAC7-445B-81B0-4A1332B7AEEB@mac.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<B839FC78-EAC7-445B-81B0-4A1332B7AEEB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5Otp3dv1qY2F8t6WMcN=B0w+PMujQmPZOP4zeb3sdW8LFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Wouldn't "East Atlantic" be England?

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Macy Larry <lmacy at mac.com> wrote:

> Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
>
> Larry
>
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
>
> > You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that
> work, it
> > would make great T-shirts!
> >
> > East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >
> > Edward Perez
> > Summerville, SC
> > 78 Midget (1275)
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> > To: Edward Perez
> > <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <
> Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> > meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> >
> > Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
> >         Peter C
> >
> > At
> > 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
> >> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
> >>
> >>
> >> Edward Perez
> >> Summerville, SC
> >> 78 Midget

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 13:04:39 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:04:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat options
In-Reply-To: <004701cc7331$76882f50$63988df0$@com>
References: <dac6.5f4f7db4.3ba25cd4@aol.com>
	<004701cc7331$76882f50$63988df0$@com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OudojpxNfawe5V9cKfKGdAT5UKCf8ecvUh8KOFkTnvHAw@mail.gmail.com>

Either Miata or Fiero seats will fit in the car pretty well.  You will
probably have to make some adapters to bolt them in.  Both should be
available with stereo speakers in the headrests, which is a nice idea.

Since you will almost certainly have to recover them, buy the cheepest set
you can find (We Tight!), strip them, replace the speakers with upgrades,
and order new covers with an AH logo.  (That's Austin Healey, not Allen
Hefner, but it's up to you.)

I'd start looking at the local boneyard.  There must be a million Miatas out
there.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Patrick Elliott <pelliott at innercite.com>wrote:

> I need seats for my 1962 MK2 Sprite.
>
> What fits?  Who sells them?
>
> I have two little buckets I bought 12 years ago, but they hurt my ever
> widening posterior.  I have the option of getting them recovered and foam
> added for $300 each. I found something similar on Ebay for $595 each..
> http://tinyurl.com/4xpmt4n
>
> I see that I can get a pair of Miata seats for under $200, but do they fit
> without the back being straight up and thus uncomfortable?
>
> Any other options?
> _______________________________________________

From billmex at msn.com  Fri Sep 16 13:06:41 2011
From: billmex at msn.com (Bill Mexson)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:06:41 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
Message-ID: <BLU163-W4044545C5A0A899B287356BE060@phx.gbl>

Has anyone ever fitted the later dual circuit brake system
to a MkIII 1275? If so, did the pedal box need replacing and were there any
particular challenges?
Bill Mexson

07961 817610

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Sep 16 13:23:11 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:23:11 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tomorrows Technology - What the future has in store.....
References: <20110916182132.38D21187871@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <3A192EF314994104B54464C541C3C453@user8634b3d69b>

<snip> Global automotive components supplier, Bosch, is currently readying a 
new mid-range radar sensor (MRR) for series production. The new device is 
seen as a less expensive version of the company's current LRR3 long-range 
radar sensor, which also operates in the 77GHz frequency band. When 
installed in the front of the vehicle, the new sensor has a range of up to 
160m (525ft) and a detection angle of 450. The compact size of the new 
sensor means that it can be easily integrated either the front or rear of 
the vehicle. As a result of its range and angle of detection, vehicles on 
the road ahead and those cutting in are detected early on, making it ideal 
for ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control) systems. At speeds from 0 to 150km/h 
(93mph), the system automatically controls the set distance to the vehicle 
in front and will also activate a predictive emergency brake assist function 
if another vehicle gets critically close. At speeds of less than 30km/h 
(19mph), it will perform full automatic emergency braking.

Rear-mounted MRRs have a shorter range, but a wider angle of detection. 
Sensors located in the rear corners create the basis for the lane-change 
assistant, which monitors blind-spots and warns of vehicles that are 
approaching quickly. Compared to existing 24GHz versions, a 77GHz sensor 
delivers enhanced performance in all areas. <snip>

What this means is that you will never have an overtake as your car will 
brake as you approach the rear of another car in the same lane and it will 
perform full AUTOMATIC emergency braking as soon as a pedestrian steps from 
the sidewalk when you are driving through town.  Still, you'll have no need 
to carry chump change to throw up at the windscreen of the guy too close 
behind.  The future is laughing at us already......

Guy R Day

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 13:43:27 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:43:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
Message-ID: <CABWjhcK1LAcULNVoEifh32UD=prJGXwJVtztrXNt-2wuvVuf8g@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, of course we Googled it already and got the low hanging fruit...
I was just hoping someone here had personal experience and could provide
some details not available through the usual sources.
That's ok - it's a nice bike and she enjoys riding it, must be well made to
have worked well for 50+ years and still ride like a dream.

Rick (mad_google_skillz) Bastedo

__________________________________________
From: Dave KK7SS <kk7ss at frontier.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cycles

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 14:25:16 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:25:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 52, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <mailman.10.1316196007.1986.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.10.1316196007.1986.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CABWjhcLYf1VFd9MvHUaHE1Lm1H_uf+394F8uSR6ai+FM+0Runw@mail.gmail.com>

I drove the AL-Can several times in MG's back in the 80's.
I have heard that there are now long stretches of - what's that stuff called
now??

Pavement!!

1984 - 85
In a '69 MGB-GT Seattle to Fairbanks to Anchorage to Homer and back.
Also drove it in a '69 MGC-GT Anchorage to Seattle. April of 1986.
The "C" was made for cruising all day long, 6 cylinders and overdrive - man
that was the way to go...

Rick (ever go 125mph on gravel???) Bastedo

______________________________________
From: Kurt Appley
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
Sent: Sep 15, 2011 8:00 PM

My wife claims there is more room in the trunk (boot!) of our Spridgets than
in our Miata but when we go long distance traveling that is usually what we
take. I've got similar trips planned only I am picking out only interesting
hi-ways and plan on doing it in my 40MPG midget. I know, I know, don't say
it!!
BTW, a friend who has done the Alaskan hi-way a couple of times recommends
NOT taking a sports car but a Geo Tracker or similar if I want the top down
experience. Roads aren't that good.

Kurt.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 14:27:31 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:27:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car.
Message-ID: <CABWjhcKoXvJqteHzEgdLxO8JCfqUxVVQOjRBi9M65wgjj9PO=A@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I didn't edit the subject - my bad.

I drove the AL-Can several times in MG's back in the 80's.
> I have heard that there are now long stretches of - what's that stuff
> called now??
>
> Pavement!!
>
> 1984 - 85
> In a '69 MGB-GT Seattle to Fairbanks to Anchorage to Homer and back.
> Also drove it in a '69 MGC-GT Anchorage to Seattle. April of 1986.
> The "C" was made for cruising all day long, 6 cylinders and overdrive - man
> that was the way to go...
>
> Rick (ever go 125mph on gravel???) Bastedo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 14:29:54 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:29:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
Message-ID: <591c9.27f8b632.3ba50bc2@aol.com>

You guys will never know how much I miss not being part of this.  I  figure 
in another 12 or 17 years when I'm retired I'll be able to pack a pack of  
tools, some parts and some clothes and hop ever the pond.
 
Have a great time.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 16/09/2011 09:56:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
philip.s.jones at comcast.net writes:

It's  confirmed! Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen-in-Transit
meeting  on Saturday, October 1st; 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM; in the Broadview
neighborhood  of Seattle WA.

So far, we have Bill M, Bill L, Rick B, Chris K, Rich B,  and myself. Chris
is interested in doing some carb work; I have a  medium-size laundry list of
minor tasks (rear slave cylinder, oil change,  install oil cooler, adjust
valves, etc). Here's the subject I'm  providing:
<http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27>  http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27

Who else is coming, and what else there is  to do, is yet to be determined!
Please post a note if you'd like to come,  and describe the project you'd
like to work on! The usual tools, workspace,  coffee and beer will be
available; and we'll manage to cobble together some  type of group lunch 
that
will leave you over-fed.

Please join us if  you can; and for those that can't we'd be glad to raise a
toast to  you!  We'll honor Frank C. and Paul A. in  particular.

Thanks!

Phil
_______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 14:33:44 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS Later Mini price-Now Rear Turbo
Message-ID: <5941a.13323a86.3ba50ca8@aol.com>

Aside from the lag he probably has a red hot turbo somewhere near the fuel  
tank so a turbo failure or fire would be more than just interesting.  The  
car must also have a really long oil pressure line going to the boot and  
back.
 
What I'd be asking myself was if the owner spent this much time working on  
one bad idea how many other bad ideas had he implemented on the car.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 16/09/2011 05:23:19 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net  
writes:

Thanks  for the explanation!  That's just weird, imho.  Very strange  setup
and have never heard of that before.  Drop in a Honda Vtec and  be done. 
Minimania has a kit.  ;-)  just kidding...but I'd like  to drive one.
Dave

> I was confused about that as well and asked,  apparently the owner thought
> that there wasn't enough room for the  turbo under the bonnet, so he
> mounted it in the rear and plumbed the  intake to the back. I commented
> that I thought that that would make  for a great deal of turbo lag, but 
the
> response was that there wasn't,  but it did go through head gaskets and
> rings- I'm not sure what kind  of boost he was running, but if you can't
> keep head gaskets on it (I  think that I'd use a Metro Turbo gasket 
myself)
> and you're going  through rings that you've got too much boost and too 
much
>  heat.
> Maybe add an intercooler as well to the mix and it might  last.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 16 14:37:34 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:37:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wranglers / Jeans Re:  Name that car
Message-ID: <59662.6360160a.3ba50d8e@aol.com>

Did you ask him if his wife wore a Wrangler Basque?  Enquiring minds  need 
to know.
 
Peter C
 
In a message dated 15/09/2011 19:32:44 GMT Daylight Time,  
rich_ball at mindspring.com writes:

The guy  in line in front of me was buying two 
new pairs of Wrangler for him and  his wife.  I could tell this guy liked 
his 
wrangles because he was  dressed head to toe in Wrangler's.  Hat, Shirt, 
Jacket, Pants, Belt,  Wallet, and Boots, all Wrangler.  Couldn't tell, but 
I'm betting  shorts and socks were Wrangler too.  Just saying, don't hang 
up 
those  Wranglers yet.

From edwd at ti.com  Fri Sep 16 15:02:08 2011
From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:02:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack
Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A01AEB2@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>

I currently own American Forge and Foundry model 200T and have had great
success with it.

Ed

From millerls at ado13.com  Fri Sep 16 15:22:37 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:22:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <D060C644-C505-4B2C-8E81-66051D9840FB@mac.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<D060C644-C505-4B2C-8E81-66051D9840FB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <B98EA977-9938-419C-8161-DCD4F05F404D@ado13.com>

Other Larry, Send key stuck ?

Real Larry

On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Macy Larry wrote:

> Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
>
> Larry
>
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
>
>> You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that work,
it
>> would make great T-shirts!
>>
>> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>
>> Edward Perez
>> Summerville, SC
>> 78 Midget (1275)
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
>> To: Edward Perez
>> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
>> meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
>>
>> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
>>     Peter C
>>
>> At
>> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>>> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>>>
>>>
>>> Edward Perez
>>> Summerville, SC
>>> 78 Midget
>>> (1275)
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> D

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 16 15:29:25 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:29:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <1246952244-1316185940-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246525017-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1246952244-1316185940-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246525017-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4E73BFB5.2040908@justbrits.com>

<< The Alaskan leg was the reason a Jeep Wrangler or
Land Rover was on my car short list! >>

W    I    M    P        ! ! !     LOL !

Have a short "read", Drew ! ! !
      
    http://mgaguru.com/mg11.htm

<< One small advantage of an older car is that when you arrive
in an MG or --- 2002  [Editorial comment: <yuck><G>],  people
strike up a conversation in a way they don't over "everyday" cars. >>

And how many "conversation"(s) do you suppose Carol and/or
Barney had in 19,000 miles <G> ! ! !  Especially whilst doing the
"Parking Lot crank job" ?!?!?   LOL ! ! !

I would be willing to bet that a Frogeye has more cubic feet
"luggage" space than most LBCs <G> ! !  I DO know that a
consenting adult 'couple' [dating, strictly seeing each other,
etc.] will fit in the boot of a Frogeye with PLENTY of 'open'
'space' left-over ! ! ! !  <VBEG> ! ! !

NOTE:   << Plus, I got divorced this year, so my wife won't be
in the trunk! >>
Carol WAS not nor IS - even today, Barney's wife;  just a good
crazy friend of his ! !  So Drew, a Temp. G.F. would be and thus
would be "proper vehicular equipment" ! ! !   <VBEG> ! ! !

Anon

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Fri Sep 16 16:05:54 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:05:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
Message-ID: <036987FC-EB55-4D38-B84E-0E3C538235B2@comcast.net>

   It seems that in bugeyes most people run brake lines inside the  
transmission tunnel.I am putting a 5 speed transmission in this  
car,probably from Rivergate.Is the transmission mount the same as in  
the 1275cc 4 speed ribcased tranny?Should the line be placed after  
installing the transmission?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 16:11:53 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:11:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoTR-zQ4chSa6TCqi_O6usXaM8EtgONm+pNWWLB6t7qZg@mail.gmail.com>

I believe there were very few Normans in the UK until after 1066....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know there are several vintage bicycle enthusiasts here so please forgive
> the non Spridget post.
> My wife just bought a vintage Norman of England bicycle and she was asking
> questions about it and I thought of you guys.
> So where do I go for info on the thing?
> Anyone know about this bike?Can put up a picture or two if anyone is
> interested.
>
> Rick (not a bike guy) Bastedo
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 16:18:45 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:18:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5Otp3dv1qY2F8t6WMcN=B0w+PMujQmPZOP4zeb3sdW8LFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net><1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><B839FC78-EAC7-445B-81B0-4A1332B7AEEB@mac.com><CAMEj5Otp3dv1qY2F8t6WMcN=B0w+PMujQmPZOP4zeb3sdW8LFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1316211549.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Allen, You are getting very technical.

Eastern-coast American Traditional Spridget Handypersons in Transit.

Who is making the "T" shirts?

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Hefner <lbc77mg at gmail.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:59:09 
To: Spridgets list<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

Wouldn't "East Atlantic" be England?

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Macy Larry <lmacy at mac.com> wrote:

> Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
>
> Larry
>
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
>
> > You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that
> work, it
> > would make great T-shirts!
> >
> > East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >
> > Edward Perez
> > Summerville, SC
> > 78 Midget (1275)
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> > To: Edward Perez
> > <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <
> Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> > meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> >
> > Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
> >         Peter C
> >
> > At
> > 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
> >> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
> >>
> >>
> >> Edward Perez
> >> Summerville, SC
> >> 78 Midget
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 16:25:39 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:25:39 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1706811775-1316211525-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-copy_sent_folder-2005754335-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net><1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><B839FC78-EAC7-445B-81B0-4A1332B7AEEB@mac.com><CAMEj5Otp3dv1qY2F8t6WMcN=B0w+PMujQmPZOP4zeb3sdW8LFQ@mail.gmail.com><1706811775-1316211525-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-copy_sent_folder-2005754335-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <mailman.4.1316211961.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Even better:

English American Traditional Spridget Handipersons-in-Transit.

Steve

59 bugeye
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:18:45 
To: Allen Hefner<lbc77mg at gmail.com>; <spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net>; spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Reply-To: an5.sprite at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

Allen, You are getting very technical.

Eastern-coast American Traditional Spridget Handypersons in Transit.

Who is making the "T" shirts?

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Hefner <lbc77mg at gmail.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:59:09 
To: Spridgets list<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

Wouldn't "East Atlantic" be England?

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Macy Larry <lmacy at mac.com> wrote:

> Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
>
> Larry
>
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
>
> > You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that
> work, it
> > would make great T-shirts!
> >
> > East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >
> > Edward Perez
> > Summerville, SC
> > 78 Midget (1275)
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> > To: Edward Perez
> > <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <
> Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> > meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> >
> > Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
> >         Peter C
> >
> > At
> > 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
> >> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
> >>
> >>
> >> Edward Perez
> >> Summerville, SC
> >> 78 Midget
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 16:32:38 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:32:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
Message-ID: <mailman.5.1316212388.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I have the Dual Master in my Bugeye with disc brakes. Took the pedal box from the new car. Originally I just re-plumbed everything but when I re-did the car I added the factory fail safe switch that let's you know if one circuit has failed. To wire that you need to add a light to the dash that is powered when the car is on and get grounded by the special switch if the system is not balanced. 

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Bill Mexson
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
Sent: Sep 16, 2011 3:06 PM

Has anyone ever fitted the later dual circuit brake system
to a MkIII 1275? If so, did the pedal box need replacing and were there any
particular challenges?
Bill Mexson

07961 817610
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Sent from me.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 16 17:02:11 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:02:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wranglers / Jeans Re:  Name that car
In-Reply-To: <992488474.1529686.1316214090107.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1588656976.1529693.1316214131083.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Personally, I prefer Levis. They fit me better.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
To: "rich ball" <rich_ball at mindspring.com>, kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:37:34 PM
Subject: Wranglers / Jeans Re: [Spridgets] Name that car



Did you ask him if his wife wore a Wrangler Basque? Enquiring minds need to know. 

Peter C 

In a message dated 15/09/2011 19:32:44 GMT Daylight Time, rich_ball at mindspring.com writes: 

The guy in line in front of me was buying two 
new pairs of Wrangler for him and his wife. I could tell this guy liked his 
wrangles because he was dressed head to toe in Wrangler's. Hat, Shirt, 
Jacket, Pants, Belt, Wallet, and Boots, all Wrangler. Couldn't tell, but 
I'm betting shorts and socks were Wrangler too. Just saying, don't hang up 
those Wranglers yet. 

From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Sep 16 18:32:07 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:32:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <B98EA977-9938-419C-8161-DCD4F05F404D@ado13.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<D060C644-C505-4B2C-8E81-66051D9840FB@mac.com>
	<B98EA977-9938-419C-8161-DCD4F05F404D@ado13.com>
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No. It kept telling me it couldn't connect to the out going server.

Larry

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One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

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On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:

> Other Larry, Send key stuck ?
> 
> Real Larry
> 
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Macy Larry wrote:
> 
>> Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
>> 
>>> You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that work, it
>>> would make great T-shirts!
>>> 
>>> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>> 
>>> Edward Perez
>>> Summerville, SC
>>> 78 Midget (1275)
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
>>> To: Edward Perez
>>> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
>>> meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
>>> 
>>> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
>>>    Peter C
>>> 
>>> At
>>> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>>>> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Edward Perez
>>>> Summerville, SC
>>>> 78 Midget
>>>> (1275)
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> D

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Sep 16 19:09:15 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:09:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <1246952244-1316185940-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-124652
	5017-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <1246952244-1316185940-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1246525017-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <51696.174.158.78.166.1316221755.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Barney Gaylord, of MGA fame, has a couple of stories you should read.
One is his MGA trip to Alaska and the other is his circumnavigation of the
lower 48.  :-)

http://www.mgaguru.com/tales/alaska97.htm

You can peruse his invaluable website from there.

Dave W.



> The Alaskan leg was the reason a Jeep Wrangler or Land Rover was on my car
> short list!
> The MR2 spyder has way too small of a trunk, but a Miata or MG would be
> plenty of space. Plus, I got divorced this year, so my wife won't be in
> the trunk!
> Drew
> ------Original Message------
> From: Kurt Appley
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Re Thinking about buying another car.
> Sent: Sep 15, 2011 8:00 PM
>
> My wife claims there is more room in the trunk (boot!) of our Spridgets
> than
> in our Miata but when we go long distance traveling that is usually what
> we
> take. I've got similar trips planned only I am picking out only
> interesting
> hi-ways and plan on doing it in my 40MPG midget. I know, I know, don't say
> it!!
> BTW, a friend who has done the Alaskan hi-way a couple of times recommends
> NOT taking a sports car but a Geo Tracker or similar if I want the top
> down
> experience. Roads aren't that good.
>
> Kurt.
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 16 19:11:37 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:11:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <B98EA977-9938-419C-8161-DCD4F05F404D@ado13.com>
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I was thinking....So(uth) E(ast)A(tlantic)T(eam) of S(pridget) 
H(andymen) I(n) T(ransit)

Peter C
sent from a crappy old laptop operated by a fumble-fingered OF
+++++++++++++++++++

At 04:22 PM 9/16/2011, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>Other Larry, Send key stuck ?
>
>Real Larry
>
>On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Macy Larry wrote:
>
> > Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
> >
> >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make 
> that work,
>it
> >> would make great T-shirts!
> >>
> >> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >>
> >> Edward Perez
> >> Summerville, SC
> >> 78 Midget (1275)
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> >> To: Edward Perez
> >> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> >> meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> >>
> >> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
> >>     Peter C
> >>
> >> At
> >> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
> >>> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Edward Perez
> >>> Summerville, SC
> >>> 78 Midget
> >>> (1275)
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> D
>_______________________________________________
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From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Sep 16 19:15:54 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:15:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Join me in the fight to cure ALS
Message-ID: <A2ABEA03-1327-4E7E-A9F8-CC114181A842@mac.com>

I do this to honor the memory of my children's mother, Janet


Hello Fellow Spridgeteers,

In November, I will be participating in The ALS Association's Greater
Philadelphia Walk to Defeat ALSB.. I have recently accepted the challenge to
raise funds to help the Association accelerate the discovery of the cause and
cure of Lou Gehrig's Disease, and to provide programs and services that are so
desperately needed by ALS patients and their families.

Imagine: as you are busy with your career, your family, and your community
responsibilities, you become unable to speak well. You fall inexplicably. You
have trouble picking up papers or using a pen. You tire very easily. You seek
medical counsel, but are given no satisfactory answers. If you can imagine
this, then you start to understand the beginnings of ALS, or Lou Gehrig's
Disease.

Unfortunately, the beginning is the best part of the struggle with ALS. It
gets much worse. Relatively quickly - usually within two years - the patient
becomes unable to speak, to move, to swallow. Finally, the patient becomes
unable to breathe. Most patients die within five years. Yet, through it all,
for the vast majority of patients, their minds remain unaffected. Essentially
the ALS patient's mind is trapped inside a helpless body.

My hope is to be one of the top fundraising participants and bring many
friends and family with us on Walk Day! To do this, I need your support
therefore I am asking you to support my Walk team by making a gift or by
walking with me.

It is faster and easier than ever to support this great cause by making your
tax-deductible donation online using the link below. Simply click on the link
below to visit my personal fundraising page and donate directly online or join
me as a Walk participant.

You may also choose to send your contribution in the form of a check. Please
make all checks payable to The ALS Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter
and send them to me at the following

Larry Macy
729 Barclay Ave
Morrisville, PA 19067


You can also send donations directly to The ALS Association at 321 Norristown
Road, Suite 260, Ambler, PA 19002. When sending to the office, please include
a note that says the money is for the Greater Philadelphia Walk team (insert
team name here) and for me as the walker.

Thank you again for supporting me in the fight against ALS. I appreciate your
generosity and participation and will continue to update you with my progress
as Walk Day nears.

Sincerely,
(Insert Your Name Here)


Follow This Link to visit my personal web page and help me in my efforts to
support ALS Association Greater Philadelphia Chapter

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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

Sent from my Magical iPad

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 20:59:59 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tomorrows Technology - What the future has in
 store.....
In-Reply-To: <3A192EF314994104B54464C541C3C453@user8634b3d69b>
References: <20110916182132.38D21187871@autox.team.net>
	<3A192EF314994104B54464C541C3C453@user8634b3d69b>
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
Still, you'll have no need to carry chump change to throw up at the
windscreen of the guy too close behind.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I carry gravel in the car and a brick on the motorcycle for those who
venture too close... I also carry a 9mm for personal protection!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 23:29:10 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:29:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcKoXvJqteHzEgdLxO8JCfqUxVVQOjRBi9M65wgjj9PO=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcKoXvJqteHzEgdLxO8JCfqUxVVQOjRBi9M65wgjj9PO=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurmOFwSFffLWMzJPW1XAaaOZAWOp4qPyPty=iv=VyHWfw@mail.gmail.com>

Have done the Alaska Highway about 5 times on motorcycles starting in the
early 1970s when there wasn't a square inch of pavement. Last time was about
8 years ago. It was a picnic compared to the early days. I wouldn't be
afraid to take a baby buggy up that highway today.

Ever go 80mph all day in deep gravel and snow and rain on a
motorcycle...?    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry I didn't edit the subject - my bad.
>
> I drove the AL-Can several times in MG's back in the 80's.
> > I have heard that there are now long stretches of - what's that stuff
> > called now??
> >
> > Pavement!!
> >
> > 1984 - 85
> > In a '69 MGB-GT Seattle to Fairbanks to Anchorage to Homer and back.
> > Also drove it in a '69 MGC-GT Anchorage to Seattle. April of 1986.
> > The "C" was made for cruising all day long, 6 cylinders and overdrive -
> man
> > that was the way to go...
> >
> > Rick (ever go 125mph on gravel???) Bastedo
> _______________________________________________
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 17 00:18:36 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:18:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Well, whatever floats your boat....errr Ferrari
Message-ID: <009301cc7501$a2856510$e7902f30$@net>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038174/Enzo-bang-Driver-1m-Ferrari-
crashes-240mph-supercar-lake.html 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 17 03:07:49 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 04:07:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Well, whatever floats your boat....errr Ferrari
In-Reply-To: <009301cc7501$a2856510$e7902f30$@net>
References: <009301cc7501$a2856510$e7902f30$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-xY7dVdOmcnOQ1OihAArChQmrfrDcrv0CiUeFnRmQ7Nw@mail.gmail.com>

Good to know if I ever get one, if I need it to, it can float back to shore.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 17 06:30:54 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:30:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnurmOFwSFffLWMzJPW1XAaaOZAWOp4qPyPty=iv=VyHWfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcKoXvJqteHzEgdLxO8JCfqUxVVQOjRBi9M65wgjj9PO=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnurmOFwSFffLWMzJPW1XAaaOZAWOp4qPyPty=iv=VyHWfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FDFD87190D4A4A50AE14E9707837183E@HomePC>

Jim Johnson wrote:


Ever go 80mph all day in deep gravel and snow and rain on a
motorcycle...?    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

=====================================

No.  Why in the hell would I do that?

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Sat Sep 17 06:58:22 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:58:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speeds
Message-ID: <641FB3C3-F78B-40D8-90A4-2CA4A577AC67@comcast.net>

   Which is the best 5 speed conversion kit to use on a 1275cc motor  
going in a bugeye? I want to prevent the rear main seal from leaking.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 17 09:02:54 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:02:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <FDFD87190D4A4A50AE14E9707837183E@HomePC>
References: <CABWjhcKoXvJqteHzEgdLxO8JCfqUxVVQOjRBi9M65wgjj9PO=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnurmOFwSFffLWMzJPW1XAaaOZAWOp4qPyPty=iv=VyHWfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FDFD87190D4A4A50AE14E9707837183E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoXNS1_S-nzOpywOM=8R0ptAQ2=YYTV1B0uWcovOMAonw@mail.gmail.com>

Why, because you could, of course...   ;-)

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>
> Ever go 80mph all day in deep gravel and snow and rain on a
> motorcycle...?    ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> =====================================
>
> No.  Why in the hell would I do that?
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From skemple at tidewater.net  Sat Sep 17 09:18:28 2011
From: skemple at tidewater.net (Steven Kemple)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:18:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake problems
In-Reply-To: <1315906544.61315.YahooMailClassic@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315906544.61315.YahooMailClassic@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C3A131E-F864-47E0-BA9C-D6BBC58F8849@tidewater.net>

Chuck

Given your response and where I am with the repairs, its time to ask the
direct question of the group.  Will a 3/4 brake master  not properly function
in an original all drum Bugeye.

I bounce between two homes one in Ohio and one in Maine on a fairly regular
basis (cars in Maine).  This makes it challenging at times to receive parts.
Because of time limitations I took the coward's way out and limped the Bugeye
to a British restoration shop about 3 towns north of us.

What was found was that indeed the Master Cylinder appears to be the problem.
It was sleeved and rebuilt but not recently as represented by the PO.  There
was a bit of rust in the bore and internal parts missing.  The shop owner had
the missing parts from an old unit and put in a rebuild kit.  Checked out the
entire system and still can't get solid brakes.  The master is going to a
rebuilder he uses.

Do I need to go back to a 7/8 bore Master Cylinder?

Steve Kemple
On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:35 AM, charles christ wrote:

> ok so it's 5:15am tuesday and no one has responded to this issue in the
> correct order yet?  first off if you had to change the push rods them you
must
> have a 3/4" bore master cylinder in the car as the 7/8" bore one was the
> correct bore unit for 4 whel drum brakes.  the 3/4" bore one was for disc
> brakes.  not only were the two identical in initial inspection but they had
> distinct difrent pistons requiring the two difrent length push rods.
> now hydrauluically the 3/4 bore master does not push enough fluid to
properly
> actuate the drum brakes 6 wheel cylinders.  but a 7/8" bore master can
actuate
> the upgraded aplication of front disc brakes.
> now only the volume of fluid is being considered here , not the amount of
> pressure generated by the two difret bore cylinders.
>
> chuck
> umm think this may be the problem?
>
> --- On Mon, 9/12/11, Steven Kemple <skemple at tidewater.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steven Kemple <skemple at tidewater.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brake problems
> To: an5.sprite at gmail.com
> Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 5:45 PM
>
>
> Thanks to everyone for the rapid responses.  Lots to consider.  The brakes
> are
> not currently binding.  The original problem was a too long pushrod in an
> upgraded master.  That's corrected and there is ample fee movement.  Now I
> can't get a good pedal after bleeding.  I'll make another thorough look at
> everything including the master ( not assuming that it was overhauled
> correctly).
>
> I'll report back.
>
> Steve Kemple
>
> AN5
> BT7 Tricarb
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:47 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote:
> _______________________________________________
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Sep 17 10:05:39 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:05:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <FDFD87190D4A4A50AE14E9707837183E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <154016149.42617.1316275539381.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Masochism ??

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- 

> Jim Johnson wrote:
> 
> Ever go 80mph all day in deep gravel and snow and rain on a
> motorcycle...?    ;-)

>"Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> No.  Why in the hell would I do that?

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Sep 17 10:06:59 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:06:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speeds
In-Reply-To: <641FB3C3-F78B-40D8-90A4-2CA4A577AC67@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <148647495.42650.1316275619791.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Surest way is to not put any oil in!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Jess Power" <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I want to prevent the rear main seal from leaking.

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sat Sep 17 10:11:15 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:11:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speeds
Message-ID: <mailman.6.1316275898.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Jess,

Are you referring to the rear seal on the engine or transmission? 

Steve 
------Original Message------
From: Jess Power
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speeds
Sent: Sep 17, 2011 8:58 AM

   Which is the best 5 speed conversion kit to use on a 1275cc motor  
going in a bugeye? I want to prevent the rear main seal from leaking.
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Sep 17 10:56:32 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:56:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car.
In-Reply-To: <FDFD87190D4A4A50AE14E9707837183E@HomePC>
References: <CABWjhcKoXvJqteHzEgdLxO8JCfqUxVVQOjRBi9M65wgjj9PO=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnurmOFwSFffLWMzJPW1XAaaOZAWOp4qPyPty=iv=VyHWfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<FDFD87190D4A4A50AE14E9707837183E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <F1D6F989DEAE4EDC83CD951826A21006@Home>

> Ever go 80mph all day in deep gravel and snow and rain on a
> motorcycle...?    ;-)

> No.  Why in the hell would I do that?

Death wish.

Michael Rowe

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Sep 17 19:54:18 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
Message-ID: <CABQj3r8B6yEAQ8ovmsNWEO0H2EXZ0WEZk9HkpbvvkFCCSqQRZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
 http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

http://tequilabrad.com/

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Sep 18 05:14:37 2011
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:14:37 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] New Wrench set
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds15506C76499683E9CC16D2D4080@phx.gbl>

A man's tool can definitely be an asset ..... but in the hands of increasing numbers of attorneys , so often turns out to be a financial iability. :)

"Be careful out there"

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:54 PM
To: Spridget list, Yahoo Spridget list, midgetsprite at yahoo.com
Subject: [midgetsprite] New Wrench set

Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
 http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

http://tequilabrad.com/

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 07:07:53 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 06:07:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8B6yEAQ8ovmsNWEO0H2EXZ0WEZk9HkpbvvkFCCSqQRZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABQj3r8B6yEAQ8ovmsNWEO0H2EXZ0WEZk9HkpbvvkFCCSqQRZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316351273.94065.YahooMailNeo@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Where's the "like" button????

 
Ron


>________________________________
>From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>To: Spridget list
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; Yahoo Spridget list
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; midgetsprite at yahoo.com
>Sent: Saturday,
September 17, 2011 8:54 PM
>Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
>
>Out yard
saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
>were
expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
>After all, a man's tools
ARE an investment.
>http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg
>
>-- 
>DON
JULIO 1942
>
>http://tequilabrad.com/
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sun Sep 18 07:10:09 2011
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] billy zoom and X in philly?
Message-ID: <1351703098.1584462.1316351409234.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Billy just saw you and X are going to be inB philly on saturday and playing a
show with my favorite locals the dead milkmen.B  When are you getting in to
town?

Ryan

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 07:13:31 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:13:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
Message-ID: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>

Very nice, what sizes are they?
 
In a message dated 18/09/2011 06:40:07 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

Out yard  saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
were  expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
After all, a man's tools  ARE an  investment.
http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Sep 18 07:49:46 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:49:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <036987FC-EB55-4D38-B84E-0E3C538235B2@comcast.net>
References: <036987FC-EB55-4D38-B84E-0E3C538235B2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6C25066C-71C1-49C8-A8EA-17F61E26887D@comcast.net>

hmm.. from what I"ve seen the brake line, that runs from front to back, fits
in a groove kinda made by a stiffener that is part of the floor.  Fuel line on
one side and brake line on the other.  Maybe racer types run the brake line
inside the trans tunnel but they didn't come that way and other than being
able to take a serious hit to the floor there is no reason to put them in
there.

Lester


On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Jess Power wrote:

>  It seems that in bugeyes most people run brake lines inside the
transmission tunnel.I am putting a 5 speed transmission in this car,probably
from Rivergate.Is the transmission mount the same as in the 1275cc 4 speed
ribcased tranny?Should the line be placed after installing the transmission?
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 18 07:56:57 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 06:56:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8B6yEAQ8ovmsNWEO0H2EXZ0WEZk9HkpbvvkFCCSqQRZQ@mail.gmail.com>
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China?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:54 PM
To: Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list; midgetsprite at yahoo.com
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set

Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
 http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg

-- 

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 08:19:32 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8B6yEAQ8ovmsNWEO0H2EXZ0WEZk9HkpbvvkFCCSqQRZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316355572.858.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

If I had those, I'd be too distracted to turn a nut.  Nice!

Rick


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--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, midgetsprite at yahoo.com
Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 9:54 PM

Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
 http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg

--
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Sep 18 09:39:37 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] For old farts like me..
Message-ID: <1225314488.48450.1316360377869.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Brings back memories of watching "The Men" drive..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-14912747

--
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 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 09:51:58 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 10:51:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
References: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r9eqkFxFjAoVgrP3V3q1E3uwkuEdUT7FTCRtxBv_iNKiw@mail.gmail.com>

They are 1/2" to 3'4". Thank you all for the comments, they have made me
laugh.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:13 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  Very nice, what sizes are they?
>
> In a message dated 18/09/2011 06:40:07 GMT Daylight Time,
> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>
> Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
> were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
> After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
> http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg
>
>
>



-- 
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http://tequilabrad.com/

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Sep 18 10:42:10 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:42:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1802622657.48863.1316364130849.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

34C

--
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 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> Very nice, what sizes are they?

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 12:00:55 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:00:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Long drives - was: Thinking about buying another car
Message-ID: <CABWjhcLb7TBjih_ug4A62i_d1WRSuLw3zammLN7S_4k9V-o45A@mail.gmail.com>

When driving that particular road (ALCAN), 25+ years ago, you knew some
things for sure.
1. There's a very long way to go
2. Civilization was sparse
3. You could drive a long way without seeing another driver

At least for me I tended to drive faster than I would normally, even though
it was gravel road.
I think it was partly due to the sense of being alone and partly due to the
knowledge of the road ahead - how far I had to go before the next gas
station and that I'd have to get there before they closed for the night if I
didn't want to sleep in the car.
Also I was a lot younger.
That and the fact that there was nothing to stop you but common sense and
that can get distorted after driving a long time over deserted roads out in
the wilderness.
And I was a lot younger.

Reading this
 http://wikitravel.org/en/Alaska_Highway
reminded me of one wake up call I had on my last trip down the ALCAN.

Driving my MGC fast on one of the few paved parts of the road, my friend
Pete was dozing in the passenger seat.
Suddenly all the road noise stopped which instantly woke Pete up.
Me too.
The car had passed over a fissure in the road and the other side was lower.
For a brief moment the car was airborne.
It came down nice and square and I instinctively must have reacted right. We
also had very good tires.

We slowed down quite a bit after that.

Rick (drives slower now) Bastedo

______________________________________
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking about buying another car.

> Ever go 80mph all day in deep gravel and snow and rain on a
> motorcycle...?    ;-)
>

 No.  Why in the hell would I do that?
>

Death wish.

Michael Rowe

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Sep 18 12:27:24 2011
From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:27:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
References: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316370444.45251.YahooMailRC@web180513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Looks like about a 36 D to EE to me.
        Crash



Very nice, what sizes
are they?

Out yard  saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip
wrenches. They
were  expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
After
all, a man's tools  ARE an  investment.
http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg
_______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Sep 18 12:39:05 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:39:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
References: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AB6C14AF-C3F6-4D61-8CD4-D47323E97429@ado13.com>

36 32 34

On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:13 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> Very nice, what sizes are they?

From trish.finn at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 12:39:13 2011
From: trish.finn at gmail.com (Trish Finn)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:39:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r9eqkFxFjAoVgrP3V3q1E3uwkuEdUT7FTCRtxBv_iNKiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r9eqkFxFjAoVgrP3V3q1E3uwkuEdUT7FTCRtxBv_iNKiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-5550476867543304880@unknownmsgid>

Sizes = A, B, C, D and DD

Trish

On Sep 18, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> They are 1/2" to 3'4". Thank you all for the comments, they have made me
> laugh.
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:13 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Very nice, what sizes are they?
>>
>> In a message dated 18/09/2011 06:40:07 GMT Daylight Time,
>> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
>> were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
>> After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
>> http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From ggroiss at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 13:05:59 2011
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:05:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] billy zoom and X in philly?
In-Reply-To: <1351703098.1584462.1316351409234.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1351703098.1584462.1316351409234.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEB8RsxzuN3+qV4YKw7Rc4Ak2TZBC76oKn_=W+tw677RdNhsXA@mail.gmail.com>

Ryan, If you can still get tickets and need someone to go with i'd be down.
We could take my bitchin' Camaro.
On Sep 18, 2011 12:34 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
> Billy just saw you and X are going to be inB philly on saturday and
playing a
> show with my favorite locals the dead milkmen.B When are you getting in to
> town?
>
> Ryan
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 13:07:05 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1316372825.48689.YahooMailClassic@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Double Ds?

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sun, 9/18/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
To: tequila.brad at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, September 18, 2011, 9:13 AM

Very nice, what sizes are they?
 
I

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Sep 18 13:49:37 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:49:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] For old farts like me..
In-Reply-To: <1225314488.48450.1316360377869.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <787118335.1546017.1316375377251.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Those were the days. Modern racing just isn't the same.

Kate


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:39:37 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] For old farts like me..

Brings back memories of watching "The Men" drive..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-14912747

--
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 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 14:28:16 2011
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:28:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r9eqkFxFjAoVgrP3V3q1E3uwkuEdUT7FTCRtxBv_iNKiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r9eqkFxFjAoVgrP3V3q1E3uwkuEdUT7FTCRtxBv_iNKiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000d01cc7641$81a22220$84e66660$@com>

B, C, CC, D, DD 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:52 AM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Wrench set

They are 1/2" to 3'4". Thank you all for the comments, they have made me
laugh.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:13 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  Very nice, what sizes are they?
>
> In a message dated 18/09/2011 06:40:07 GMT Daylight Time,
> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>
> Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
> were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
> After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
> http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg
>
>
>



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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sun Sep 18 14:55:04 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:55:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E765AA8.5080006@tx.rr.com>

You can try asking here:

http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php/181-Classic-amp-Vintage


> I know there are several vintage bicycle enthusiasts here so please forgive
> the non Spridget post.
> My wife just bought a vintage Norman of England bicycle and she was asking
> questions about it and I thought of you guys.
> So where do I go for info on the thing?
> Anyone know about this bike?Can put up a picture or two if anyone is
> interested.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sun Sep 18 14:58:28 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:58:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS Later Mini price-Now Rear Turbo
In-Reply-To: <00d401cc7410$6731d6c0$35958440$@brokaw@cox.net>
References: <20110915.171702.14621.0@webmail51.dca.untd.com>
	<00d401cc7410$6731d6c0$35958440$@brokaw@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4E765B74.2010802@tx.rr.com>

I've seen those shows too and I was a bit skeptical, but one time they 
installed the turbos in the back of a Corvette and did dyno runs to 
prove the horsepower increase.  You can google "rear mounted turbo" and 
you will find a lot of information.  I knew that there was one company 
that was building these kits, but maybe there are more.


> Watching some of the Saturday morning car shows, I have seen a couple turbo
> installs where the turbos are mounted where the mufflers were.  I too
> thought that was a LONG intake air track but it was a packaging solution.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 19:13:42 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:13:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NMC: Norman of England bicycle
In-Reply-To: <4E765AA8.5080006@tx.rr.com>
References: <CABWjhcJJpWSL--PJpU-9xK-eX7Sv7tbko36Nk0WvEjYGMbHiOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E765AA8.5080006@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r_nOaTbGEtGZTVPKNjcpwrdes=NVcWG7OAB6t9z-wk+GA@mail.gmail.com>

I just picked up an old Kia bike from the 70's. No serial number, so I can't
determine the year of manufacture, but it did clean up nice.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:55 PM, BJNoSHOV8 <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> You can try asking here:
>
> http://www.bikeforums.net/**forumdisplay.php/181-Classic-**amp-Vintage<http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php/181-Classic-amp-Vintage>
>
>
>  I know there are several vintage bicycle enthusiasts here so please
>> forgive
>> the non Spridget post.
>> My wife just bought a vintage Norman of England bicycle and she was asking
>> questions about it and I thought of you guys.
>> So where do I go for info on the thing?
>> Anyone know about this bike?Can put up a picture or two if anyone is
>> interested.
>>
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 19 05:03:39 2011
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 04:03:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <201109161811431.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<D060C644-C505-4B2C-8E81-66051D9840FB@mac.com>
	<B98EA977-9938-419C-8161-DCD4F05F404D@ado13.com>
	<201109161811431.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <1316430219.14886.YahooMailNeo@web160819.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

It would be worth it to have one just to make the T-Shirts!

 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
________________________________
From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>; Macy Larry <lmacy at mac.com>
Cc:
"Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September
16, 2011 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

I
was thinking....So(uth) E(ast)A(tlantic)T(eam) of S(pridget) 
H(andymen) I(n)
T(ransit)

Peter C
sent from a crappy old laptop operated by a fumble-fingered
OF
+++++++++++++++++++

At 04:22 PM 9/16/2011, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>Other Larry, Send key stuck ?
>
>Real Larry
>
>On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:43 AM,
Macy Larry wrote:
>
> > Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is
actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM,
Edward Perez wrote:
> >
> >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
If we could make 
> that work,
>it
> >> would make great T-shirts!
> >>
> >>
East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >>
> >> Edward Perez
> >>
Summerville, SC
> >> 78 Midget (1275)
> >>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >>
> >>
> >>
________________________________
> >> From: Peter Caldwell
<peter at nosimport.com>
> >> To: Edward Perez
> >> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>;
"Spridgets at autox.team.net" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Friday,
September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
> >> meeting
10/01/11 Sea WA
> >>
> >> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
> >>     Peter C
> >>
>
>> At
> >> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
> >>> Miss you guys, man! 
Have  a blast.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Edward Perez
> >>> Summerville, SC
> >>> 78
Midget
> >>> (1275)
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >>
_______________________________________________
> >>
> >> D
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 19 05:26:51 2011
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:26:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8B6yEAQ8ovmsNWEO0H2EXZ0WEZk9HkpbvvkFCCSqQRZQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Only You Brad,

 Only You, would find something like this!!!

:-)


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:54:18 -0500
> From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com;
midgetsprite at yahoo.com
> Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
>
> Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
> were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
> After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
>  http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> http://tequilabrad.com/
> _______________________________________________

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 19 06:45:02 2011
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
In-Reply-To: <BLU163-W4044545C5A0A899B287356BE060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1316436302.7674.YahooMailClassic@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

My BE was fitted with a dual system sometime in the dim past before I acquired
it. The MC leaks a little but the brakes are good. The MC problem seems to be
the rod length or angle of the rod between the MC and the petal box. New seals
helped a little. Will fix it this winter with a new MC and correct rod
probably from Gerard.
Drove AN5L/37190 to Piqua Ohio last weekend for a A-H fall meet, 9/30 to 10/2
to Put-In-Bay Ohio.

--- On Fri, 9/16/11, Bill Mexson <billmex at msn.com> wrote:

> From: Bill Mexson <billmex at msn.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, September 16, 2011, 7:06 PM
> Has anyone ever fitted the later dual
> circuit brake system
> to a MkIII 1275? If so, did the pedal box need replacing
> and were there any
> particular challenges?
> Bill Mexson
>
> 07961 817610
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 07:26:57 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:26:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <201109161811431.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <005e01cc743c$139826a0$3ac873e0$@comcast.net>
	<1316170503.6207.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<201109160628809.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1316180000.70528.YahooMailNeo@web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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You crack me up Peter ; )
Lin

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> I was thinking....So(uth) E(ast)A(tlantic)T(eam) of S(pridget) H(andymen)
> I(n) T(ransit)
>
> Peter C
> sent from a crappy old laptop operated by a fumble-fingered OF
> +++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> At 04:22 PM 9/16/2011, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>
>> Other Larry, Send key stuck ?
>>
>> Real Larry
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Macy Larry wrote:
>>
>> > Silly Fellow, Tis for Team, of Trouble so it is actually, EATTSHIT ;-)
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> > On Sep 16, 2011, at 09:33 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
>> >
>> >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me... If we could make that
>> work,
>> it
>> >> would make great T-shirts!
>> >>
>> >> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
>> >>
>> >> Edward Perez
>> >> Summerville, SC
>> >> 78 Midget (1275)
>> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**lbc_newbie/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ______________________________**__
>> >> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
>> >> To: Edward Perez
>> >> <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets at autox.team.net" <
>> Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:28 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT
>> >> meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
>> >>
>> >> Ed... haw about So,EATSHiT?
>> >>     Peter C
>> >>
>> >> At
>> >> 05:55 AM 9/16/2011, Edward Perez wrote:
>> >>> Miss you guys, man!  Have  a blast.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Edward Perez
>> >>> Summerville, SC
>> >>> 78 Midget
>> >>> (1275)
>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**lbc_newbie/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/>
>> >> ______________________________**_________________
>> >>
>> >> D
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From pvanwig at me.com  Mon Sep 19 11:03:55 2011
From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:03:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
In-Reply-To: <000d01cc7641$81a22220$84e66660$@com>
References: <30562.5565cf96.3ba7487a@aol.com>
	<CABQj3r9eqkFxFjAoVgrP3V3q1E3uwkuEdUT7FTCRtxBv_iNKiw@mail.gmail.com>
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I like it

Paul Van Wig
Long Beach/Big Bear
pvanwig at Mac.com
Sent from my iPhone
So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons)

On Sep 18, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Neil Anderson <neilandcustom at gmail.com> wrote:

> B, C, CC, D, DD 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:52 AM
> To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Wrench set
> 
> They are 1/2" to 3'4". Thank you all for the comments, they have made me
> laugh.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:13 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> **
>> Very nice, what sizes are they?
>> 
>> In a message dated 18/09/2011 06:40:07 GMT Daylight Time,
>> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>> 
>> Out yard saling today. Found some nice, ergonomic no slip wrenches. They
>> were expensive, but I like to think they were worth it.
>> After all, a man's tools ARE an investment.
>> http://tequilabrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/DSCF23561.jpg
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 12:06:56 2011
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:06:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Video: Watch a $1.5M Ferrari crash into the ocean |
	Wheels.ca
Message-ID: <1C66497493F246BD914C2BC1290EE2D1@Inspiron>

Now this would really ruin your run in the Targa Rally, I hope this guy has
lots of insurance. Does anyone know if Ron and company are competing this
year?

Greg Higgins
http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/800010

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep 19 13:00:42 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1392695893.1560244.1316458727970.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2057150835.1560266.1316458842422.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

East Atlantic Team ???
Spridget Handymen in Transit

Northwest Organization ???
Spridget Handymen in Transit

I'd buy a couple. Proceeds could go toward another gathering, perhaps.

Kate



Edward Perez wrote:
> >
> >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
If we could make 
> that work,
>it
> >> would make great T-shirts!
> >>
> >>
East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >>
> >> Edward Perez
> >>
Summerville, SC
> >> 78 Midget (1275)

From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Sep 19 14:00:46 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:00:46 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
References: <1316436302.7674.YahooMailClassic@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F487805CD31A4A798A1A015653F3F868@user8634b3d69b>

PLEASE, if you are using your vehicle and I don't give a damn where from, if 
fluid is leaking from your brake system you need an urgent, prioritorised 
repair.

Some things you MUST keep on top of, brakes, steering and gripping the 
pavement really are essential.

Guy R Day

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Mon Sep 19 15:56:24 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:56:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
Message-ID: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

I wish to glue a Silicon rubber valve cover gasket to the valve cover.
The rounded (cylinder head) side of the silicon gasket will rely on pressure to keep a good seal.
Which glue should I use?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Sep 19 15:56:23 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:56:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <2057150835.1560266.1316458842422.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01
	.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
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	<2057150835.1560266.1316458842422.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <201109191456192.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Consortium Of Wisconsin Spridget Handymen In Transit?

    Peter C
--
at 02:00 PM 9/19/2011, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
>East Atlantic Team ???
>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>
>Northwest Organization ???
>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>
>I'd buy a couple. Proceeds could go toward another gathering, perhaps.
>
>Kate
>
>
>
>Edward Perez wrote:
> > >
> > >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
>If we could make
> > that work,
> >it
> > >> would make great T-shirts!
> > >>
> > >>
>East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> > >>
> > >> Edward Perez
> > >>
>Summerville, SC
> > >> 78 Midget (1275)
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 19:00:20 2011
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:00:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
In-Reply-To: <BLU163-W4044545C5A0A899B287356BE060@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU163-W4044545C5A0A899B287356BE060@phx.gbl>
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Bill Mexson <billmex at msn.com> wrote:
> Has anyone ever fitted the later dual circuit brake system
> to a MkIII 1275?

I thought most MkIII's had the dual circuit brake system.

Oddly, for whatever reason, the DPO of my '73 had reverted it to a
single circuit system!

I had picked up a NOS dual circuit master cylinder to put it back to
proper form but never got around to it.  I guess I need to dig that
out and offer it up for sale since I sold the car a couple of months
ago...

From lmacy at mac.com  Mon Sep 19 19:59:05 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:59:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <7748C6AE-B30A-4377-8351-8CA65D9CAAF9@mac.com>

Gorilla Glue?? Just watch out for the foam and the gorilla's!!

ED

(Not really, I am not sure, but I would guess any silicon sealant (not glue) should work.)

Larry


On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:

> I wish to glue a Silicon rubber valve cover gasket to the valve cover.
> The rounded (cylinder head) side of the silicon gasket will rely on pressure to keep a good seal.
> Which glue should I use?
> 
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
> Richland, WA
> 
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> _______________________________________________
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-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep 19 20:04:46 2011
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:04:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <88BA554CFC1E47609BCB72AF301241FD@JimMainHP>

Blue RTV

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave KK7SS
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:56 PM
To: spridgets_autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??

I wish to glue a Silicon rubber valve cover gasket to the valve cover.
The rounded (cylinder head) side of the silicon gasket will rely on pressure 
to keep a good seal.
Which glue should I use?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 20:07:47 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:07:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx79ax-OZP0V5nvgFtHKe07qZ0GkGQi3OANjW4rwB8t4V5Q@mail.gmail.com>

3M weatherstrip adhesive.

If you glue it to the head then when you set the valves it will help
keep the oil from dripping down the side of the head, IIRC.

I like Hylomar, but it doesn't do what you're asking about.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 20:09:09 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:09:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-NBcA9p90w+eJ0LnYZvKKKxN4XNMotEy0pKuAcs_vgHA@mail.gmail.com>

3M

http://www.shop3m.com/60455029961.html

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Mon Sep 19 20:15:24 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:15:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
In-Reply-To: <F487805CD31A4A798A1A015653F3F868@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <836437318.68655.1316484924731.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Hmmm...  Is there a story behind this?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> PLEASE, if you are using your vehicle and I don't give a damn where
> from, if fluid is leaking from your brake system you need an urgent,
> prioritorised repair.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Sep 19 20:17:53 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:17:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4E77F7D1.9060808@tx.rr.com>

My dad's shop always used 3M trim cement.  Put some on the gasket and 
some on the valve cover, let it mostly dry then stick the gasket in place.

> I wish to glue a Silicon rubber valve cover gasket to the valve cover.
> The rounded (cylinder head) side of the silicon gasket will rely on pressure to keep a good seal.
> Which glue should I use?

From hardy.john at cox.net  Mon Sep 19 21:23:32 2011
From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:23:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <20110919232332.HD748.974823.imail@fed1rmwml40>

Dave,

My kid who builds racing engines for KTM North America swears by this stuff.

http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_sealants/Permatex_Hi-Temp_RTV_Silicone_Gasket_Sealant.htm

Cheers,

John 


---- Dave KK7SS <kk7ss at frontier.com> wrote: 
> I wish to glue a Silicon rubber valve cover gasket to the valve cover.
> The rounded (cylinder head) side of the silicon gasket will rely on pressure to keep a good seal.
> Which glue should I use?
> 
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>  Richland, WA
> 
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 19 21:51:28 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:51:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [...M...G-...M...GB] Pictures from Classics on the
 Green - Lots of M...G...Bs
In-Reply-To: <803843103.1665121.1316482504697.JavaMail.root@sz0021a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <803843103.1665121.1316482504697.JavaMail.root@sz0021a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4E780DC0.5070402@justbrits.com>

Bet we all know somebody that would be EXTREMELY jealous
having her vehicle parked next to THIS one <G>:

*http://tinyurl.com/3ndqq8o

or

*http://www.flickr.com/photos/flckrhanzo/6161039665/
in/set-72157627703619334

much less a certain Pink Sprite ! !

Anon

From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 01:38:09 2011
From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
Message-ID: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

 I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
Roger Cotting

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Sep 20 02:47:51 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:47:51 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.
References: <836437318.68655.1316484924731.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <C4A03B790AAD449D81E3EDA5273DE40E@user8634b3d69b>

I am a tight wad.  I really hate contributing to funds to support widows, 
orphans and disabled people.


Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dual circuit brakes.


> Hmmm...  Is there a story behind this?
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
> Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>
> ----- "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> PLEASE, if you are using your vehicle and I don't give a damn where
>> from, if fluid is leaking from your brake system you need an urgent,
>> prioritorised repair.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From clarici at verizon.net  Tue Sep 20 05:43:17 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:43:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <05C75E06-CB1C-45E2-BFE2-557CA0251D37@verizon.net>

I use paint thinner

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:38 AM, roger cotting <rbc_48183 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
> Roger Cotting
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 06:21:40 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:21:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7D1EF999-62C8-40DC-A2D7-1B4442EAAEFF@gmail.com>

Roger,

Kerosene.   I wear gloves and goggles.

My local garage mixes it with drained motor oil and burns it in their  
waste oil heater when it gets too dirty.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa




On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:38 AM, roger cotting wrote:

>  I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?

From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Sep 20 06:36:40 2011
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:36:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP7F1U9=G0U5z3o3SidvwdVh3bTL7tQU_vNAvzYTJAz=Vg@mail.gmail.com>

This is what I'm using.  Works really well.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/parts-washers-accessories/crown-reg-psc-1000-parts-cleaner-5-gal--3893915

Heard

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:38 AM, roger cotting <rbc_48183 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
> Roger Cotting
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net
>
>


-- 
Heard Saxon
Datatron Technical Services, Inc.
888-362-3977

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Sep 20 07:04:48 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:04:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BD3209AD-E2D1-4FB6-B737-8EA3F83224B9@chartermi.net>

Super Agitene from Grainger.  $50 for 5 gallons, but good stuff.


Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:38 AM, roger cotting <rbc_48183 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
> Roger Cotting
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Sep 20 08:35:30 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:35:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Video: Watch a $1.5M Ferrari crash into the ocean |
 Wheels.ca
In-Reply-To: <1C66497493F246BD914C2BC1290EE2D1@Inspiron>
References: <1C66497493F246BD914C2BC1290EE2D1@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <55165.173.112.25.207.1316529330.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Hi Greg!

Yikes! As the column in MOTOR used to be titled: Went the Day Badly. We
lucked out with the rent-a-racer last year and had great roads.  It
would've been fun to see how the Enzo would've handled the jump in Brigus.

Nope, we're not running this year.  Ron's company is making great strides
and none of us had any time to prep the BMW.  Maybe next year!

If we go we'll mooch a beer off you on the way home!  ;-)

Good to hear from you!

Take care,

Dave W. (dang it Ron, they get the good cars when we're not there! 
Imagine the '53 Studebaker, with stock steering, up against an Enzo.)




> Now this would really ruin your run in the Targa Rally, I hope this guy
> has
> lots of insurance. Does anyone know if Ron and company are competing this
> year?
>
> Greg Higgins
> http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/800010

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Sep 20 08:50:29 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:50:29 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <201109191456192.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <1392695893.1560244.1316458727970.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<2057150835.1560266.1316458842422.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<201109191456192.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <55199.173.112.25.207.1316530229.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

MOOoooooo!  Cow talk for, Way to go Peter!"

:-)



> Consortium Of Wisconsin Spridget Handymen In Transit?
>
>     Peter C
> --
> at 02:00 PM 9/19/2011, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
>>East Atlantic Team ???
>>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>
>>Northwest Organization ???
>>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>
>>I'd buy a couple. Proceeds could go toward another gathering, perhaps.
>>
>>Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>Edward Perez wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
>>If we could make
>> > that work,
>> >it
>> > >> would make great T-shirts!
>> > >>
>> > >>
>>East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
>> > >>
>> > >> Edward Perez
>> > >>
>>Summerville, SC
>> > >> 78 Midget (1275)

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Tue Sep 20 09:29:43 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:29:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] question about parts prices
Message-ID: <20110920152943.OWRFJ.20455.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>

Can anybody tell me the approximate prices for each of the following, all for a 1275-

all engine gaskets

crankshaft main and rod bearings

piston rings

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Sep 20 09:46:35 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:46:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <7748C6AE-B30A-4377-8351-8CA65D9CAAF9@mac.com>
References: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<7748C6AE-B30A-4377-8351-8CA65D9CAAF9@mac.com>
Message-ID: <0B5828DBA1B54029884EEB571339AC89@Home>

The foaming of Gorilla Glue will lift the pieces apart unless they are 
clamped.  Cured silicone seldom sticks to itself  well (maybe never).

Michael Rowe

> Gorilla Glue?? Just watch out for the foam and the gorilla's!!
>
> ED
>
> (Not really, I am not sure, but I would guess any silicon sealant (not 
> glue) should work.)
>
> Larry
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
>
>> I wish to glue a Silicon rubber valve cover gasket to the valve cover.
>> The rounded (cylinder head) side of the silicon gasket will rely on 
>> pressure to keep a good seal.
>> Which glue should I use?
>>
>> --
>> Dave G  KK7SS
>> Richland, WA
>>
>> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
>> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
>> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com
>>
>
> -- 
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Secretary
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked 
> car.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 10:06:48 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:06:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <05C75E06-CB1C-45E2-BFE2-557CA0251D37@verizon.net>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<05C75E06-CB1C-45E2-BFE2-557CA0251D37@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5Os3FQ7K=Q2nVSM+y1t_c-qW5YecRDw-5c70fz7V-7ut1w@mail.gmail.com>

I always used odorless paint thinner mixed with a pint of motor oil.  The
oil leaves a slight coating that may keep some rust from happening
instantly.  You can vary the amount of oil based on the number of gallons of
thinner.  I never really filled mine up, and it was cheep.  We tight!

I have heard of some people using Simple Green, but that would make your
parts smell like sassafras.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>wrote:

> I use paint thinner
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:38 AM, roger cotting <rbc_48183 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
> > Roger Cotting
> > _______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 20 10:22:56 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:22:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <BD3209AD-E2D1-4FB6-B737-8EA3F83224B9@chartermi.net>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<BD3209AD-E2D1-4FB6-B737-8EA3F83224B9@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <872AEC1DAD9F4A528ADCE0042A1B67B4@spider>

Cleaning solvent from a farm supply south of town. Probably $6 per gallon.

=========================================
On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:38 AM, roger cotting <rbc_48183 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
> Roger Cotting
> _______________________________________________

From homehandy at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 20 12:55:42 2011
From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (HomeHandy)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:55:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??
In-Reply-To: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1992052179.65574.1316469384191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <13283D01E897438A85698B0BF30D7ED0@Snoopy>

I've used Blue RTV for years, works very well.
Jeff

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave KK7SS
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:56 PM
To: spridgets_autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! - gasket goo??

I wish to glue a Silicon rubber valve cover gasket to the valve cover.
The rounded (cylinder head) side of the silicon gasket will rely on pressure 
to keep a good seal.
Which glue should I use?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 20 13:14:08 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:14:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] question about parts prices
In-Reply-To: <20110920152943.OWRFJ.20455.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>
References: <20110920152943.OWRFJ.20455.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>
Message-ID: <C5DEF499DA074871815D30B2C4219C68@spider>

Start here. Fill out the sort request form and get a real price quote.
...bill in corvallis
http://www.nosimport.com

===================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bjshov8 at tx.rr.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:30 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] question about parts prices

Can anybody tell me the approximate prices for each of the following, all
for a 1275-

all engine gaskets

crankshaft main and rod bearings

piston rings
_______________________________________________

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep 20 13:18:54 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:18:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] question about parts prices
In-Reply-To: <20110920152943.OWRFJ.20455.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>
Message-ID: <1902059480.1577689.1316546334239.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Gaskets should be available at NAPA, and fairly reasonable. For the rest, I should bow to the wisdom of the other list members, as I went top of the line for everything on my engine, but I did it over 15 years ago. I would guess prices have at least tripled since then.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:29:43 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] question about parts prices

Can anybody tell me the approximate prices for each of the following, all for a 1275-

all engine gaskets

crankshaft main and rod bearings

piston rings
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep 20 13:41:02 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <55199.173.112.25.207.1316530229.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

I could just kill Frank for dying on us! We somebody who can make shirts.

Kate


----- Original Message -----
From: dwoerpel at wi.net
To: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:50:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

MOOoooooo!  Cow talk for, Way to go Peter!"

:-)



> Consortium Of Wisconsin Spridget Handymen In Transit?
>
>     Peter C
> --
> at 02:00 PM 9/19/2011, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
>>East Atlantic Team ???
>>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>
>>Northwest Organization ???
>>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>
>>I'd buy a couple. Proceeds could go toward another gathering, perhaps.
>>
>>Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>Edward Perez wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
>>If we could make
>> > that work,
>> >it
>> > >> would make great T-shirts!
>> > >>
>> > >>
>>East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
>> > >>
>> > >> Edward Perez
>> > >>
>>Summerville, SC
>> > >> 78 Midget (1275)
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 13:42:09 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:42:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] question about parts prices
Message-ID: <mailman.9.1316547753.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

May I suggest you just go online to moss or vb and look at the prices. They do vary and those guys will give you a good idea.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] question about parts prices
Sent: Sep 20, 2011 11:29 AM

Can anybody tell me the approximate prices for each of the following, all for a 1275-

all engine gaskets

crankshaft main and rod bearings

piston rings
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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Sent from me.

From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Sep 20 14:00:12 2011
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:00:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5Os3FQ7K=Q2nVSM+y1t_c-qW5YecRDw-5c70fz7V-7ut1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<05C75E06-CB1C-45E2-BFE2-557CA0251D37@verizon.net>
	<CAMEj5Os3FQ7K=Q2nVSM+y1t_c-qW5YecRDw-5c70fz7V-7ut1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP4m9aEdFrNdhEN0bFtjEGTj55EbC3=Ef9i5U1uRF4oS-A@mail.gmail.com>

Unless you can buy it in bulk somewhere, paint thinner, mineral spirits,
etc. is about $15/gal at the big box stores now.  It's a crime I tell
ya'....

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Allen Hefner <lbc77mg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I always used odorless paint thinner mixed with a pint of motor oil.  The
> oil leaves a slight coating that may keep some rust from happening
> instantly.  You can vary the amount of oil based on the number of gallons
> of
> thinner.  I never really filled mine up, and it was cheep.  We tight!
>
> I have heard of some people using Simple Green, but that would make your
> parts smell like sassafras.
>
>  Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
>
> *Current:*
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net
> >wrote:
>
> > I use paint thinner
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:38 AM, roger cotting <rbc_48183 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
> > > Roger Cotting
> > > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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>


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 15:41:14 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:41:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <872AEC1DAD9F4A528ADCE0042A1B67B4@spider>
References: <1316504289.21138.YahooMailNeo@web111214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<BD3209AD-E2D1-4FB6-B737-8EA3F83224B9@chartermi.net>
	<872AEC1DAD9F4A528ADCE0042A1B67B4@spider>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupFu6bRh3WRwBLWfq+PAuzUjsJLLHjaAEKfcrEF1_sCmA@mail.gmail.com>

Exactly.  I get it for $5.68 a gal. plus tax at my local farm supply store.

Perhaps Allen is allergic to sassafras.  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:22 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Cleaning solvent from a farm supply south of town. Probably $6 per gallon.
>
> =========================================
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:38 AM, roger cotting <rbc_48183 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to refill my parts washer. What are you using in yours?
> > Roger Cotting
> > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep 20 17:46:01 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:46:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4E7925B9.907@justbrits.com>

<< We somebody who can make shirts. >>

Frankie 4th  OWNs the business, Kate <G> ! ! !

Ed

From rich_ball at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 20 17:54:20 2011
From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
References: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <7EFE3F4162BF46368016731AC4388F76@psych.washington.edu>

Kate,

Frank's son Frank is the person that printed up the shirts and has the 
artwork for the OSHIT, will work for... design.  When we were looking for 
shirts for the NOSHIT group he modified the design by adding the Northwest 
to it.

When the subject of shirts came up back in March it was a minimum of one 
dozen.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA


>I could just kill Frank for dying on us! We somebody who can make shirts.
>
> Kate
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dwoerpel at wi.net
> To: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:50:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
>
> MOOoooooo!  Cow talk for, Way to go Peter!"
>
> :-)
>
>
>
>> Consortium Of Wisconsin Spridget Handymen In Transit?
>>
>>     Peter C
>> --
>> at 02:00 PM 9/19/2011, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
>>>East Atlantic Team ???
>>>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>>
>>>Northwest Organization ???
>>>Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>>
>>>I'd buy a couple. Proceeds could go toward another gathering, perhaps.
>>>
>>>Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Edward Perez wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
>>>If we could make
>>> > that work,
>>> >it
>>> > >> would make great T-shirts!
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>>East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Edward Perez
>>> > >>
>>>Summerville, SC
>>> > >> 78 Midget (1275)
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From lmacy at mac.com  Tue Sep 20 18:43:26 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:43:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <67D1943D-1D88-40FD-B044-087C389678C5@mac.com>

I suspect if we ask nicely that Frank's Dad, Larry, and his brother, Larry, (this is NOT a Newhart Show Joke, I am not Darrel) would be willing to do some shirts for us. We just need to ask and see how they feel. I know Larry, the father, has the OSHIT Logo. 

If any are interested, I can ask, Frank IV is (I hope) still on the list. Better source than me. 

I need to get Larry to buff my car, now that it's home.

Larry
(Not Darrel)
 
On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:41 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> I could just kill Frank for dying on us! We somebody who can make shirts.
> 
> Kate
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dwoerpel at wi.net
> To: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:50:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
> 
> MOOoooooo!  Cow talk for, Way to go Peter!"
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> 
>> Consortium Of Wisconsin Spridget Handymen In Transit?
>> 
>>    Peter C
>> --
>> at 02:00 PM 9/19/2011, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
>>> East Atlantic Team ???
>>> Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>> 
>>> Northwest Organization ???
>>> Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>> 
>>> I'd buy a couple. Proceeds could go toward another gathering, perhaps.
>>> 
>>> Kate
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Edward Perez wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
>>> If we could make
>>>> that work,
>>>> it
>>>>>> would make great T-shirts!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Edward Perez
>>>>>> 
>>> Summerville, SC
>>>>>> 78 Midget (1275)
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> 

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. 

From kmappley at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 20:03:09 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:03:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Parts Washer
Message-ID: <CANv6dsD+XhkA4FYf=CCNWgOAvW+BG5MWh3P15g_MnE9eVteWBg@mail.gmail.com>

Diesel fuel initially followed by gasoline and hot soapy water if it is
going to be painted!

Kurt.

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 20 20:19:09 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:19:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <55199.173.112.25.207.1316530229.squirrel@wm.wi.net>,
	<1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W41F8D7A7330CFBFFF61C3BCA0D0@phx.gbl>

Kate
I think that it was Frank's dad who did the t-shirts.
Maybe Frankie would be interested in pursuing it
BillM

> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:41:02 +0000
> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
>
> I could just kill Frank for dying on us! We somebody who can make shirts.
>
> Kate
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dwoerpel at wi.net
> To: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:50:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
>
> MOOoooooo!  Cow talk for, Way to go Peter!"
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> > Consortium Of Wisconsin Spridget Handymen In Transit?
> >
> >     Peter C
> > --
> > at 02:00 PM 9/19/2011, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
> >>East Atlantic Team ???
> >>Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >>
> >>Northwest Organization ???
> >>Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >>
> >>I'd buy a couple. Proceeds could go toward another gathering, perhaps.
> >>
> >>Kate
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Edward Perez wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> You'll have to break that acronym out for me...
> >>If we could make
> >> > that work,
> >> >it
> >> > >> would make great T-shirts!
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >>East Atlantic T???  Spridget Handymen in Transit
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Edward Perez
> >> > >>
> >>Summerville, SC
> >> > >> 78 Midget (1275)
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 20:33:00 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:33:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fs in NoCal
Message-ID: <CAM6-RjdmrbCSzBD9rmr+RsNQVSO74q5zc1e5DVPOkkBSh4qnuw@mail.gmail.com>

Might be an interesting project....
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2606304604.html
Hal

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 20:52:28 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:52:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <39C7CD81-ADDE-42D0-AB35-828B6AB29B3A@gmail.com>

On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:41 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> I could just kill Frank for dying on us! We somebody who can make  
> shirts.
>

Frankie makes shirts......

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep 20 21:54:11 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:54:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <67D1943D-1D88-40FD-B044-087C389678C5@mac.com>
References: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<67D1943D-1D88-40FD-B044-087C389678C5@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4E795FE3.5090701@justbrits.com>

<< I can ask, Frank IV is (I hope) still on the list. >>

Gee, the Head cat of a LARGE I. T. Dept. doesn't know how to
check [the List Member List] and answer his own question _:) ??!?!?

Sorry Larry but --- LMAO ! ! !

Anon

PS:  Will it STOP raining long enough to even buff a Spridget ?!?

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 20 23:09:42 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:09:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Parts Washer
In-Reply-To: <CANv6dsD+XhkA4FYf=CCNWgOAvW+BG5MWh3P15g_MnE9eVteWBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANv6dsD+XhkA4FYf=CCNWgOAvW+BG5MWh3P15g_MnE9eVteWBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx79C5WzrquBr5v-gr0Y-vXvAQEDb1-78peiDnG+cOBOBxA@mail.gmail.com>

Diesel.  Or, as it is known in its off road form, RedRoundUp.


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Kurt Appley <kmappley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Diesel fuel initially followed by gasoline and hot soapy water if it is

From rich_ball at mindspring.com  Tue Sep 20 23:51:32 2011
From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:51:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
In-Reply-To: <39C7CD81-ADDE-42D0-AB35-828B6AB29B3A@gmail.com>
References: <1327027116.1578033.1316547661973.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<39C7CD81-ADDE-42D0-AB35-828B6AB29B3A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DEC71CC2F35B4E96827452EBA41C43F6@RichandSusanPC>

As Kevin, Ed, and I have said, Frank IV/Frankie is the one to contact to
print the shirts.  Frank's dad did the original ones but Frank's son is the
man now.  To quote Frank from March:

Minimum 1 dozen.
If you want shirts, email him direct
Frank Clarici <clarici at verizon.net>

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

As far as a shirt goes maybe we need to design something along the lines of
concert t-shirt.  An Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit North
American tour with the stops listed on the back.  Stops on the east coast,
the Northwest, Wisconsin, the South East...

Just a thought...

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Valentine
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:52 PM
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA

On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:41 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> I could just kill Frank for dying on us! We somebody who can make  
> shirts.
>

Frankie makes shirts......
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
Unsubscribe/Manage:
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 21 04:54:30 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:54:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: 2011 Goodwood Revival
Message-ID: <00db01cc784c$d72a6830$857f3890$@net>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8771953/Jaguar-at-the-2
011-Goodwood-Revival.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8769221/Goodwood-Reviva
l-day-one-review.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8770691/Goodwood-Reviva
l-2011-a-day-with-the-enthusiasts.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8766159/Ten-great-Reviv
al-moments.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8435917/In-pictures-Goo
dwoods-first-race-meeting.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8741632/Goodwood-Reviva
l-2011-a-look-at-Nick-Masons-car-collection.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8773987/Goodwood-Reviva
l-2011-Vintage-Fords-on-parade.html

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 13:08:05 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club Annual Calendar....
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqVH38RAQf-GcEMpyTymmNROzjd3visxj+rxyP6+U08KA@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

David Lieb is unable to design and put together the wonderful and popular
Spridget annual calendar that he has done for the past 5 years. I do not
have the skill or artistic talent to do anything other than the final
assembly.  If you are willing to help, please ping me off list at the
Sprite-Midget Club USA email. "SpriteMidgetClub AT gmail DOT com".
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Sep 21 13:44:07 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:44:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content
Message-ID: <201109211244925.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Anyone know of a 67 Bus front suspension and steering box available?

Peter C

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Sep 21 13:56:21 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:56:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Adobe download fail
Message-ID: <30817.488856f3.3bab9b65@aol.com>

Hi list,
 
A while back I had to install a new hard drive in my wife's PC.  So, I  
also had to install the software from scratch.  I don't think she ever had  
Adobe reader on it before but needs it now.
 
Her PC has XP and when I try to download Adobe reader everything goes ok  
until running the exe file when I get a message at 33% saying a metadata file 
 failed.  Having had a series of repeat failures I gave up.
 
So, I thought I'd download Adobe for XP on my PC and then copy it across on 
 a USB memory stick.  But guess what despite my telling the Adobe download  
page I want XP etc, etc it prompts me to download.  When it prompts me the  
2nd time it then reverts to Windows 7 which is what my PC is, despite my 
having  already told it I want XP.
 
So, anyone have an install copy of Adobe for XP (I guess it won't be the  
English version) someone can e-mail me as an attachment (I guess within 
whatever  the max size AOL will accept) so I can put it on my wife's PC?  Or, 
does  anyone have any alternative ideas (like burn it to a disc for me?).
 
Thanks
 
Weslake-Monza 1330

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 16:53:46 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:53:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Adobe download fail
In-Reply-To: <30817.488856f3.3bab9b65@aol.com>
References: <30817.488856f3.3bab9b65@aol.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1316645650.14598.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Windows can be a PITA. 
I have not seen this problem but here is what I do when I have trouble.

I suspect from your description you  already have a clean exe file since you downloaded it twice and got the same error. 

I first make sure you have no residual files from the download. If you look at the system add/remove software is adobe there? If yes remove it. Next use a registry cleaner to remove junk that may have been left behind. Finally, do a search on adobe to see if there is anything else on the computer that should be erased. 

When you reloaded XP did you also load all the updates and service packs? That should be done.

Next I would turn off any security and try to download again and install.

 You could also email Adobe support with the error and they may have a very direct fix.

Good luck,

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:56:21 
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Adobe download fail

Hi list,
 
A while back I had to install a new hard drive in my wife's PC.  So, I  
also had to install the software from scratch.  I don't think she ever had  
Adobe reader on it before but needs it now.
 
Her PC has XP and when I try to download Adobe reader everything goes ok  
until running the exe file when I get a message at 33% saying a metadata file 
 failed.  Having had a series of repeat failures I gave up.
 
So, I thought I'd download Adobe for XP on my PC and then copy it across on 
 a USB memory stick.  But guess what despite my telling the Adobe download  
page I want XP etc, etc it prompts me to download.  When it prompts me the  
2nd time it then reverts to Windows 7 which is what my PC is, despite my 
having  already told it I want XP.
 
So, anyone have an install copy of Adobe for XP (I guess it won't be the  
English version) someone can e-mail me as an attachment (I guess within 
whatever  the max size AOL will accept) so I can put it on my wife's PC?  Or, 
does  anyone have any alternative ideas (like burn it to a disc for me?).
 
Thanks
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 21 17:06:14 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:06:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content
In-Reply-To: <201109211244925.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201109211244925.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <DCF3380CCCBF45808001E075B43C6CEB@spider>

Did you try Search Tempest/Craigslist?
http://www.searchtempest.com/
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:44 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content

Anyone know of a 67 Bus front suspension and steering box available?

Peter C
_______________________________________________

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 17:28:00 2011
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:28:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Adobe download fail
In-Reply-To: <30817.488856f3.3bab9b65@aol.com>
References: <30817.488856f3.3bab9b65@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CANx9iMNatXPnef+LjZMDomsmfxS3q65c7Z580DeMm3-C3TRwHA@mail.gmail.com>

Try downloading it from here
http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/
instead of their 'normal' download method.

Alternatively I highly recommend using Foxit PDF Reader instead of
Adobe Reader - it's considerably faster opening and navigating most
larger, graphics laden PDF files especially on slower, older PCs.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/


On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:56 PM,  <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> A while back I had to install a new hard drive in my wife's PC.  So, I
> also had to install the software from scratch.  I don't think she ever had
> Adobe reader on it before but needs it now.
>
> Her PC has XP and when I try to download Adobe reader everything goes ok
> until running the exe file when I get a message at 33% saying a metadata
file
>  failed.  Having had a series of repeat failures I gave up.
>
> So, I thought I'd download Adobe for XP on my PC and then copy it across on
>  a USB memory stick.  But guess what despite my telling the Adobe download
> page I want XP etc, etc it prompts me to download.  When it prompts me the
> 2nd time it then reverts to Windows 7 which is what my PC is, despite my
> having  already told it I want XP.
>
> So, anyone have an install copy of Adobe for XP (I guess it won't be the
> English version) someone can e-mail me as an attachment (I guess within
> whatever  the max size AOL will accept) so I can put it on my wife's PC?
 Or,
> does  anyone have any alternative ideas (like burn it to a disc for me?).
>
> Thanks
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 21 17:41:35 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:41:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Adobe download fail
In-Reply-To: <30817.488856f3.3bab9b65@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2070822084.94077.1316648495379.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Foxit is a freeware pdf reader...
I've used it with no problems.. :)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> does  anyone have any alternative ideas (like burn it to a disc for
> me?).

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 21 18:47:12 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:47:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fs in NoCal
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-RjdmrbCSzBD9rmr+RsNQVSO74q5zc1e5DVPOkkBSh4qnuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM6-RjdmrbCSzBD9rmr+RsNQVSO74q5zc1e5DVPOkkBSh4qnuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E7A8590.8060200@justbrits.com>

<<  Might be an interesting project....

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2606304604.html

Hal >>


PERFECT for Glen B., Ret. <G> ! ! !  Matching TWIN, Glen <VBEG> ! !

Anon

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 21 22:26:11 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:26:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fs in NoCal
In-Reply-To: <4E7A8590.8060200@justbrits.com>
References: <CAM6-RjdmrbCSzBD9rmr+RsNQVSO74q5zc1e5DVPOkkBSh4qnuw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4E7A8590.8060200@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W43999AB062B4E143747E24CA0C0@phx.gbl>

Here is a bit more:
http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/797953/May_be_se
lling#Post797953
BillM

> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:47:12 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye fs in NoCal
>
> <<  Might be an interesting project....
>
> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2606304604.html
>
> Hal >>
>
>
> PERFECT for Glen B., Ret. <G> ! ! !  Matching TWIN, Glen <VBEG> ! !
>
> Anon
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 04:15:34 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:15:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye fs in NoCal
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W43999AB062B4E143747E24CA0C0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAM6-RjdmrbCSzBD9rmr+RsNQVSO74q5zc1e5DVPOkkBSh4qnuw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E7A8590.8060200@justbrits.com>
	<SNT123-W43999AB062B4E143747E24CA0C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfOqQNTPBQC7Ut4f9RZxognN7V=ET5d4SuG2_iZg5nZUg@mail.gmail.com>

Wow great price ; )
Lin

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Here is a bit more:
>
> http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/797953/May_be_se
> lling#Post797953
> BillM
>
> > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:47:12 -0500
> > From: shop at justbrits.com
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye fs in NoCal
> >
> > <<  Might be an interesting project....
> >
> > http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2606304604.html
> >
> > Hal >>
> >
> >
> > PERFECT for Glen B., Ret. <G> ! ! !  Matching TWIN, Glen <VBEG> ! !
> >
> > Anon
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 04:17:56 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:17:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type front
	end.
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>

List this has got to be one of the scariest hack jobs to a Spridget.

*http://tinyurl.com/42kkfbj

Lin*

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 04:20:11 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:20:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content
In-Reply-To: <201109211244925.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201109211244925.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVcsmg=e9+cCnQgJgngZ5uGOa_Nn9B8Xz3n=CrrNWX_-kg@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,
I use the samba site where I have a thread on my 67 bus. Do you have a 67
bus too?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/

Lin

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>wrote:

> Anyone know of a 67 Bus front suspension and steering box available?
>
> Peter C
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From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Thu Sep 22 06:55:38 2011
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:55:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVcsmg=e9+cCnQgJgngZ5uGOa_Nn9B8Xz3n=CrrNWX_-kg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1248289392.111999.1316696138226.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Sounds like a Formula Vee project.  Am I correct?

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:20:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content

Peter,
I use the samba site where I have a thread on my 67 bus. Do you have a 67
bus too?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/

Lin

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>wrote:

> Anyone know of a 67 Bus front suspension and steering box available?
>
> Peter C

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 22 07:19:46 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content
In-Reply-To: <1248289392.111999.1316696138226.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.
	dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <CAL0QtVcsmg=e9+cCnQgJgngZ5uGOa_Nn9B8Xz3n=CrrNWX_-kg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1248289392.111999.1316696138226.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <201109220619630.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Thanks everyone who replied.

No, surprisingly it's a 67 Bus that got whacked in front.... not mine.

Peter C
==

At 07:55 AM 9/22/2011, lotuspilot at frontier.com wrote:
>Sounds like a Formula Vee project.  Am I correct?
>
>Mike
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
>To: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:20:11 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content
>
>Peter,
>I use the samba site where I have a thread on my 67 bus. Do you have a 67
>bus too?
>
>http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/
>
>Lin
>
>On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>wrote:
>
> > Anyone know of a 67 Bus front suspension and steering box available?
> >
> > Peter C
> >
>
>
>
>-----
>No virus found in this message.
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 22 08:45:55 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:45:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type
 front	end.
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E7B4A23.2030408@justbrits.com>

<<  List this has got to be one of the scariest hack jobs to a
Spridget. 
*http://tinyurl.com/42kkfbj
Lin* >>

Prolly got his "idea" from:

http://www.justbrits.com/cars/ugh1.htm

OR

http://www.justbrits.com/cars/AHealey.JPG

Lin, etal;  I THINK if you TAKE OUT the "bold" command that this
'program' changes to '*', it will NOT show anything but the (in this 
case) Tiny URL ! !

Ed

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 10:04:21 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:04:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] was NoSHiT meeting 10/01, Now SHIRTS
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OsoFYEFUm5f=w5dSwdGbWzziO88MZeEixRXpfv53aHVTQ@mail.gmail.com>

If we are ordering shirts, I AM IN!  We would need someone to coordinate the
orders, collect them from Frankie, and then send them out.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Richard Ball <rich_ball at mindspring.com>wrote:

> Kate,
>
> Frank's son Frank is the person that printed up the shirts and has the
> artwork for the OSHIT, will work for... design.  When we were looking for
> shirts for the NOSHIT group he modified the design by adding the Northwest
> to it.
>
> When the subject of shirts came up back in March it was a minimum of one
> dozen.
>
> Rich Ball
> '76 Midget
> Everett, Wa
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NoSHiT meeting 10/01/11 Sea WA
>
>
> I could just kill Frank for dying on us! We somebody who can make shirts.
>>
>> Kate

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 10:08:40 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:08:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] VW Bus parts... no SPM content
In-Reply-To: <201109211244925.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201109211244925.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OuNRb4kxVtkrhf_o0Yj=T_bzB5nReAoj0KxGvfmWv880Q@mail.gmail.com>

I used to have one on my '67 VW bus, but it is long gone.  I bought the
Rover when the bus rusted thru.  Then the Rover blew reverse gear and a con
rod bearing, so I gave up on cars for a while.

Sorry,

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Anyone know of a 67 Bus front suspension and steering box available?
>
> Peter C
> ______________________________**_________________

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 10:35:05 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:35:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type
 front end.
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OvaB=WKYkiBuQMhUNNnFZJ85umSe+anac7NTqrsA3DkgA@mail.gmail.com>

Well that's about the biggest laugh I've had all week!

Only 45K miles because it was only used in parades!  Given a 10 mile parade,
that's one parade EVERY WEEK for 75 years.  I doubt that's possible.

"A lot of the body seems solid."  Solid rust, that is.

"This vehicle is eligible for up to $50,000 Vehicle Purchase Protection."
I'd take the full amount.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List this has got to be one of the scariest hack jobs to a Spridget.
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/42kkfbj
>
> Lin*
> _______________________________________________

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Thu Sep 22 10:52:58 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:52:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type
 front end.
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvTfcg3RrQveRuUY=G5aoAD_m5zBqjFCko2drBFTuQwb9w@mail.gmail.com>

Probably was built as a "clown car" for the parades ... in which case they
succeeded.

-Trevor

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List this has got to be one of the scariest hack jobs to a Spridget.
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/42kkfbj
>
> Lin*
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 22 11:20:25 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:20:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type
 front end.
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316712025.50751.YahooMailNeo@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The two really shocking things about it are: 
1 - It has 8 bids already
2 -
$152 has not yet met his reserve price...
 
 - David

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep 22 13:36:15 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:36:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvTfcg3RrQveRuUY=G5aoAD_m5zBqjFCko2drBFTuQwb9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1942791790.104471.1316720175743.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Nice piece of chain in the pedal box...

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Thu Sep 22 17:46:26 2011
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:46:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
Message-ID: <4fe70.6156834e.3bad22d2@aol.com>

Are you folks aware that Spridgets will be sharing the spotlight with  
Jaguar this year as featured marque at this event?
 
_http://www.euroautofestival.com/_ (http://www.euroautofestival.com/) 
 
Howard Collins
'60 Austin Healey "Bugeye" Sprite
'68 Austin Mini 

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 22 19:26:25 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:26:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type
 front end.
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvTfcg3RrQveRuUY=G5aoAD_m5zBqjFCko2drBFTuQwb9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHkEVvTfcg3RrQveRuUY=G5aoAD_m5zBqjFCko2drBFTuQwb9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E7BE041.1040803@justbrits.com>

<< Probably was built as a "clown car" for the parades
... in which case they succeeded. >>

Didn't youse guys check out the two(2) cars on my site,
now did yah ??

Anybody checking out B-J Auction ?!?  Damn there have been
some really GREAT cars vs $$$$$  ! ! ! ! ! ! !

One REAL "Beetle", VW Lovers <G> ! ! !

IIRC, there will be SIX (6) "Simba" VW Campers, Linda <G> ! ! !
"Simba" cars to come ( both cars & campers prolly Sat or Sun <G>].

Me

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Thu Sep 22 20:01:31 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:01:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 5speed transmission
Message-ID: <E6950100-EB02-4109-8BC6-90B7D3B22A13@comcast.net>

  I am looking for a rebuilt 5 speed transmission for my 1959 bugeye.I  
wish to use Gerard's back plate and seal adapter.Anyone have one for  
sale?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 03:35:55 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:35:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
In-Reply-To: <4fe70.6156834e.3bad22d2@aol.com>
References: <4fe70.6156834e.3bad22d2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfNnxe-=W1YtapymQZP1dc3wAQtHugte1_ZPJrfwZCyRA@mail.gmail.com>

Where is the address? It's not on the site.
Lin

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:46 PM, <Miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:

> Are you folks aware that Spridgets will be sharing the spotlight with
> Jaguar this year as featured marque at this event?
>
> _http://www.euroautofestival.com/_ (http://www.euroautofestival.com/)
>
> Howard Collins
> '60 Austin Healey "Bugeye" Sprite
> '68 Austin Mini
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 04:18:52 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 03:18:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type
 front end.
In-Reply-To: <4E7BE041.1040803@justbrits.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
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Wow Ed that is a scary Spridget on your site too.

Thanks for the heads up on the bold for tinyurl what does the bold do?

Also thanks for the heads up at Barrett Jackson I'll have to watch it. Yes
one Samba 23 window VW bus which is very desirable and the other crew cab
which is nice to. I just received the last of the needed parts to get my
bus/camper on the road. It took far longer than expected to complete. I want
my garage back for "Spridgets Only" even if this newly painted bus lives
outside.

 http://www.barrett-jackson.com/



Yes David the real shocker is the 8 bids already.hahaha.


Lin



On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com>wrote:

> << Probably was built as a "clown car" for the parades
> ... in which case they succeeded. >>
>
> Didn't youse guys check out the two(2) cars on my site,
> now did yah ??
>
> Anybody checking out B-J Auction ?!?  Damn there have been
> some really GREAT cars vs $$$$$  ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>
> One REAL "Beetle", VW Lovers <G> ! ! !
>
> IIRC, there will be SIX (6) "Simba" VW Campers, Linda <G> ! ! !
> "Simba" cars to come ( both cars & campers prolly Sat or Sun <G>].
>
> Me

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 23 08:02:17 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:02:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
In-Reply-To: <4fe70.6156834e.3bad22d2@aol.com>
References: <4fe70.6156834e.3bad22d2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <201109230702743.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Ummm..... seems to be some logo pilfering unless the 50th committee 
and/or Gerard have given some blessing, of which I am unaware.

         Peter C
--
At 06:46 PM 9/22/2011, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
>Are you folks aware that Spridgets will be sharing the spotlight with
>Jaguar this year as featured marque at this event?
>
>_http://www.euroautofestival.com/_ (http://www.euroautofestival.com/)
>
>Howard Collins
>'60 Austin Healey "Bugeye" Sprite
>'68 Austin Mini

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 09:22:43 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re:  Spridgets at EuroFest
In-Reply-To: <201109230702743.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4fe70.6156834e.3bad22d2@aol.com>
	<201109230702743.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqGQJHS9ZQR1b6c90oT6eNQgZinaZ7JyC6HHOaf1Z6nnw@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

There has been no such agreement that I know of. I will check with Gerard
but doubt he would have done this. They also swiped the banner off our
website though they do have a link to our site on the index page. I might
think about overlooking this flagarant violation of intellectual rights if
they had given us proper credit for the logos and had mentioned our event
but now..........

Hap Waldrop is involved with this event (or at least was).  I'll do some
checking around.

Cheers!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Peter Caldwell <nosimport at mailbag.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ummm..... seems to be some logo pilfering unless the 50th committee
> and/or Gerard have given some blessing, of which I am unaware.
>
> Peter C
> --
>
> At 06:46 PM 9/22/2011, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
> >Are you folks aware that Spridgets will be sharing the spotlight with
> >Jaguar this year as featured marque at this event?
> >
> >_http://www.euroautofestival.com/_ (http://www.euroautofestival.com/)
> >
> >Howard Collins
> >'60 Austin Healey "Bugeye" Sprite
> >'68 Austin Mini
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Sep 23 09:37:08 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:37:08 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pickup tube
Message-ID: <20110923.093708.12831.0@webmail59.dca.untd.com>

Has anyone tried to reline a pickup tube?
My BE still stops picking up gas after ~3 gallons of use-really annoying,
limits me to about 100 miles depending on how hard its driven. I'm going to
drain the tank and peer inside with a 48" borescope to try to determine the
problem. The tank was cleaned before I bought the MKII, so I'm thinking
something was either knocked out of place, or there's a hole in the tube at
the bend.
Is it possible to use refrigerator tubing to reline the pickup, or is it
possible to replace the pickup tube without tearing the tank apart?


Mark Haynes
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 23 10:17:23 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:17:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shocking eBay Spridget hack.....Rolls Royce type
 front end.
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVeuC6SMWMkRQLMNEtZcpBXeeyNZgCb0KhjBcoMfqaZ4PA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVc0JAyP+B7_0iQj2V3jyOjXQeacQztyTu6oE4ng3XrUqA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHkEVvTfcg3RrQveRuUY=G5aoAD_m5zBqjFCko2drBFTuQwb9w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4E7CB113.1000500@justbrits.com>

<< I just received the last of the needed parts to get my bus/camper
on the road. It took far longer than expected to complete. >>

LOL, Lin ! ! !   No matter WHAT vehicle, dat statement is GOSPEL ! ! !

Fer instance, I happened to be "lucky" enough to catch the 'trailer' for 
the auction and the IIRC red/black Simba got a couple frames.
Guess what vehicle had NO Windscreen Wiper(s?) Arm/blade ??
Just the 'nub' sittin' there <G><G> ! ! !  Now wouldn't you think that 
if you  were taking a vehicle/trinket/objet d' art [sp?] that it would 
be COMPLETE !?!?!?!?

As I said;  LOL ! ! !

Moi

PS:  <<Wow Ed that is a scary Spridget on your site too.>>  Lin, WHAT
Spridget are you talkin' about ?!?!?

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Fri Sep 23 11:42:48 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:42:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
Message-ID: <FD815F5A-CD2C-4E10-B65D-1BF3CB373EBF@gerardsgarage.com>

Jim,

Total news to me, but you are right Jim, I would never enter into any  
such agreement and would have forwarded any request to you.

I have often found imagery from my web site on other sites, without  
requested permission or credit, and it irks me to no end. I have even  
found my images on CD's for sale. Some people think if it's "on the  
Internet", it's OK for them to use and don't have the courtesy to even  
ask.

If there is some content I want to use, that someone else has created,  
I always ask permission first. Even tech tips listed in my site are  
accredited to contributors.

Peter, you may have forgotten, but there is at least one there from you.
http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/CaliperSeals2.htm

Gerard

--- In midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at ...> wrote:
 >
 > Peter,
 >
 > There has been no such agreement that I know of. I will check with  
Gerard
 > but doubt he would have done this. They also swiped the banner off  
our
 > website though they do have a link to our site on the index page. I  
might
 > think about overlooking this flagarant violation of intellectual  
rights if
 > they had given us proper credit for the logos and had mentioned our  
event
 > but now..........
 >
 > Hap Waldrop is involved with this event (or at least was).  I'll do  
some
 > checking around.
 >
 > Cheers!
 > Jim
 >
 > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Peter Caldwell <nosimport at ...>wrote:
 >
 > > **
 > >
 > >
 > > Ummm..... seems to be some logo pilfering unless the 50th committee
 > > and/or Gerard have given some blessing, of which I am unaware.
 > >
 > > Peter C
 > > --
 > >
 > > At 06:46 PM 9/22/2011, Miniac7 at ... wrote:
 > > >Are you folks aware that Spridgets will be sharing the spotlight  
with
 > > >Jaguar this year as featured marque at this event?
 > > >
 > > >_http://www.euroautofestival.com/_ (http://www.euroautofestival.com/ 
)
 > > >
 > > >Howard Collins
 > > >'60 Austin Healey "Bugeye" Sprite
 > > >'68 Austin Mini
 > >
 > >
 > >
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > Cheers!!
 > Jim Johnson
 > Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
 > High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
 > Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
 > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http:// 
www.EJSSM.org>
 > Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
 > bmwwxman at ...

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 16:35:02 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:35:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Green Lighting
Message-ID: <CABQj3r8+4tAFPDw6D9UmMnuv+3YO84TveZ0KMLP-0y-FdbK9AA@mail.gmail.com>

In MY opinion, THIS is what "GREEN" is about. NOT outlawing one light, to
mandate, THROUGH FORCE, another more expensive, more DANGEROUS TO DISPOSE OF
light.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBWi3NtND68&feature=youtu.be
I wouldn't put one of these in my house, but 15 years ago, BEFORE the
"green" bullshit amped up, I DID put one of these in.
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/ODL-10-inch-Tubular-Skylight-Kit/4757070/product.html?cid=202290&kid=9553000357392&adtype=pla&kw={keyword}
Mine was less than $100 at the time. I had a hallway so dark, that it needed
a light turned on in there at least once during the day. Since the
installation, I installed the optional light kit as well, I turn on a light
in the hallway ONLY in the evenings. I think it is fair to say that it has
already paid for itself more than once already.
Just thought I would share.

Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

http://tequilabrad.com/

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 23 21:10:25 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:10:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ... Outstanding!....
Message-ID: <201109232010603.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Brewers


Peter C

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 24 08:15:53 2011
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
In-Reply-To: <FD815F5A-CD2C-4E10-B65D-1BF3CB373EBF@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <FD815F5A-CD2C-4E10-B65D-1BF3CB373EBF@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <1316873753.2200.YahooMailNeo@web160807.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Even with this flagrant violation, is anyone going?

 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
________________________________
From: Gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
To: spridgets_autox.team.net List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday,
September 23, 2011 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
Jim,

Total news to me, but you are right Jim, I would never enter into any
such agreement and would have forwarded any request to you.

I have often
found imagery from my web site on other sites, without requested permission or
credit, and it irks me to no end. I have even found my images on CD's for
sale. Some people think if it's "on the Internet", it's OK for them to use and
don't have the courtesy to even ask.

If there is some content I want to use,
that someone else has created, I always ask permission first. Even tech tips
listed in my site are accredited to contributors.

Peter, you may have
forgotten, but there is at least one there from you.
http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/CaliperSeals2.htm

Gerard

--- In
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at ...> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
>
There has been no such agreement that I know of. I will check with Gerard
>
but doubt he would have done this. They also swiped the banner off our
>
website though they do have a link to our site on the index page. I might
>
think about overlooking this flagarant violation of intellectual rights if
>
they had given us proper credit for the logos and had mentioned our event
>
but now..........
>
> Hap Waldrop is involved with this event (or at least
was).  I'll do some
> checking around.
>
> Cheers!
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Sep 23,
2011 at 9:02 AM, Peter Caldwell <nosimport at ...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
Ummm..... seems to be some logo pilfering unless the 50th committee
> > and/or
Gerard have given some blessing, of which I am unaware.
> >
> > Peter C
> > --
> >
> > At 06:46 PM 9/22/2011, Miniac7 at ... wrote:
> > >Are you folks aware
that Spridgets will be sharing the spotlight with
> > >Jaguar this year as
featured marque at this event?
> > >
> > >_http://www.euroautofestival.com/_
(http://www.euroautofestival.com/)
> > >
> > >Howard Collins
> > >'60 Austin
Healey "Bugeye" Sprite
> > >'68 Austin Mini
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
> Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
> Dodge City
Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
> Electronic Journal of
Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
> Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
> bmwwxman at ...
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 08:38:18 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:38:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com>

OK, in between other odd jobs I made a set of custom MG Midget air filters
for HS2 carbs.  They are for sale.

Here is the disclosure: The aluminum plates are made in the USA (by me) from
USA aluminum using made in USA mill bits.  Unfortunately, it was made on a
chinese made mill  with Japanese electronics.  The filter elements are made
in mexico.  The resin is produced in the USA as are the bolts.  They will be
shipped via the USPS, but my mailman is Chinese and barely speaks English
(seriously).

All money made from the sale of these will be directly funneled back into an
MG Midget project and not squandered on booze or broads.

You can view the items for sale here:
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1860030

Cheers,
Trevor

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Sat Sep 24 08:48:43 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:48:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] ... Outstanding!....
In-Reply-To: <201109232010603.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <434674983.1402714.1316875723243.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

----- Original Message -----

Brewers

Peter C

----------------------------

Maybe last night. There are several brewers in the Portland OR area and I think I might have sampled all their wares last night. I am going back to bed.

Peter S

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 10:13:24 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:13:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
In-Reply-To: <1316873753.2200.YahooMailNeo@web160807.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <FD815F5A-CD2C-4E10-B65D-1BF3CB373EBF@gerardsgarage.com>
	<1316873753.2200.YahooMailNeo@web160807.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupJq5qN1M7+DahGb9+625=TV9=3VJT-Bo+YjitXk7iO5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Ed and everyone,

It was an honest mistake.  We have worked it out with the event organizers
and we now encourage everyone's participation in your capacity as a
President of the Sprite-Midget Club USA.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Even with this flagrant violation, is anyone going?
>
>
> Edward Perez
> Summerville, SC
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> ________________________________
> From: Gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
> To: spridgets_autox.team.net List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday,
> September 23, 2011 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets at EuroFest
> Jim,
>
> Total news to me, but you are right Jim, I would never enter into any
> such agreement and would have forwarded any request to you.
>
> I have often
> found imagery from my web site on other sites, without requested permission
> or
> credit, and it irks me to no end. I have even found my images on CD's for
> sale. Some people think if it's "on the Internet", it's OK for them to use
> and
> don't have the courtesy to even ask.
>
> If there is some content I want to use,
> that someone else has created, I always ask permission first. Even tech
> tips
> listed in my site are accredited to contributors.
>
> Peter, you may have
> forgotten, but there is at least one there from you.
> http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/CaliperSeals2.htm
>
> Gerard
>
> --- In
> midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at ...> wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> >
> There has been no such agreement that I know of. I will check with Gerard
> >
> but doubt he would have done this. They also swiped the banner off our
> >
> website though they do have a link to our site on the index page. I might
> >
> think about overlooking this flagarant violation of intellectual rights if
> >
> they had given us proper credit for the logos and had mentioned our event
> >
> but now..........
> >
> > Hap Waldrop is involved with this event (or at least
> was).  I'll do some
> > checking around.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Jim
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23,
> 2011 at 9:02 AM, Peter Caldwell <nosimport at ...>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > >
> Ummm..... seems to be some logo pilfering unless the 50th committee
> > > and/or
> Gerard have given some blessing, of which I am unaware.
> > >
> > > Peter C
> > > --
> > >
> > > At 06:46 PM 9/22/2011, Miniac7 at ... wrote:
> > > >Are you folks aware
> that Spridgets will be sharing the spotlight with
> > > >Jaguar this year as
> featured marque at this event?
> > > >
> > > >_http://www.euroautofestival.com/_
> (http://www.euroautofestival.com/)
> > > >
> > > >Howard Collins
> > > >'60 Austin
> Healey "Bugeye" Sprite
> > > >'68 Austin Mini
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim Johnson
> > Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
> >
> High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
> > Dodge City
> Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
> > Electronic Journal of
> Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
> > Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
> > bmwwxman at ...
> _______________________________________________
>
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Jim Johnson
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 24 10:52:50 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:52:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tracking / alignment - degrees and minutes
Message-ID: <6e0.70eae0dd.3baf64e2@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
Does anyone have formulae and worked examples for converting front wheel  
alignment from imperial fractions or metric millimetres to degrees and  
minutes?
 
I do have some stuff from the internet but I'm entirely confidenti it's  
reliable.
 
Thanks
 
Weslake-Monza 1330

From nases at verizon.net  Sat Sep 24 14:08:37 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:08:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D7D8B80D-F97C-49B5-81A4-2CD27A5C577A@verizon.net>

They look great Trevor.  Now if they just had "Sprite" on them;)

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote:

> OK, in between other odd jobs I made a set of custom MG Midget air filters
> for HS2 carbs.  They are for sale.
>
> Here is the disclosure: The aluminum plates are made in the USA (by me)
from
> USA aluminum using made in USA mill bits.  Unfortunately, it was made on a
> chinese made mill  with Japanese electronics.  The filter elements are made
> in mexico.  The resin is produced in the USA as are the bolts.  They will
be
> shipped via the USPS, but my mailman is Chinese and barely speaks English
> (seriously).
>
> All money made from the sale of these will be directly funneled back into
an
> MG Midget project and not squandered on booze or broads.
>
> You can view the items for sale here:
> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1860030
>
> Cheers,
> Trevor
> _______________________________________________
>
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From nases at verizon.net  Sat Sep 24 14:11:14 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:11:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
Message-ID: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>

I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with a 1966
Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to find some
resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.

Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 24 14:15:08 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:15:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316895308.19393.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Trevor,
Ya had me till the part about not squandering the money on booze and
broads...
 
David Booker
 - Long Island

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat Sep 24 15:29:35 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:29:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201109241429991.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 09:38 AM 9/24/2011, Trevor Jessie wrote:
>All money made from the sale of these will be directly funneled back into an
>MG Midget project and not squandered on booze or broads.

Squandered?....................... 

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 16:13:49 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:13:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEJoGE057aMkO6b0_kTX+tCPyowb4LpH+ksorTBArPAmTA@mail.gmail.com>

I need a new gear box for my 59.  I nearly snagged a 1972 midget rib case
via eBay but missed it by a couple of dollars which might have not been a
bad thing. .  . unknown condition although stated to have come off a car
with 38k on the odometer with seller admitting that this may not actually be
the case.  . and moved well through all gears. .  but no tolerances checked
by the seller.

What is involved in rebuilding a rib case?  If I had the money at this point
I would go to a Datsun set up. .  but instead I need a decent rib case. (My
rib case grinds in first to second and second to third).  Assuming it is the
balk rings, what do I know at this point?

I am mechanically confident enough to know that I can screw up a gear box
rebuild. . . ahh, think I can pull it off if I have the correct
instructions.

Anyhow.  . can someone tell me about how much are the parts to do a rebuild
on a rib case and where are they sourced?   And or who on the list does
rebuilds like this and of course I need to get an idea of the cost?

Any help is always most appreciated. .

Thanks,

Kirk

59 1275

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 16:25:29 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:25:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
References: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <E296F08C-4437-467F-A952-918757103852@gmail.com>

Phil,

That would be Frankie ;)

Kevin



On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Philip Nase wrote:

> I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with  
> a 1966
> Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to  
> find some
> resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.

From swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Sep 24 16:28:54 2011
From: swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk (G & J Swann-Price)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:28:54 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tracking / alignment - degrees and minutes
In-Reply-To: <6e0.70eae0dd.3baf64e2@aol.com>
References: <6e0.70eae0dd.3baf64e2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <54DA9506A3D745339197A5BEF1C18E9F@TINY2>

I'd like to know the answer to this one as well.

I understand degrees, but linear measurement I'm not sure of. I suspect it
is the difference in width between the front wheel rim edges at the front
and back, ie the 3 and 9 O'clock positions. But would someone in the know
please confirm this or otherwise!

Geri
67 MkIV

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: 24 September 2011 17:53
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Tracking / alignment - degrees and minutes

Hi List,
 
Does anyone have formulae and worked examples for converting front wheel  
alignment from imperial fractions or metric millimetres to degrees and  
minutes?
 
I do have some stuff from the internet but I'm entirely confidenti it's  
reliable.
 
Thanks
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
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From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Sep 24 17:17:59 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:17:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
References: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <491C434B-DDA6-4720-8D4A-4159F6A15541@ado13.com>

Phil

There is a Mini list at team.net. It's not real active but there are numerous
Mini people on the list. I have got answers for most questions.

Larry Miller

On Sep 24, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Philip Nase wrote:

> I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with a 1966
> Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to find some
> resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 18:08:27 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:08:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
In-Reply-To: <201109241429991.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<201109241429991.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvTuB9gQgwOOpai3x4PxLyapQ4wvYvWZY2RPdFG6w5gU6Q@mail.gmail.com>

I spend money wisely on booze and broads.  :)

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 09:38 AM 9/24/2011, Trevor Jessie wrote:
>
>> All money made from the sale of these will be directly funneled back into
>> an
>> MG Midget project and not squandered on booze or broads.
>>
>
> Squandered?...................**....

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 24 19:06:22 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:06:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Green Lighting
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r8+4tAFPDw6D9UmMnuv+3YO84TveZ0KMLP-0y-FdbK9AA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABQj3r8+4tAFPDw6D9UmMnuv+3YO84TveZ0KMLP-0y-FdbK9AA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1316912782.55287.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have 3 of those. excellent.

 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" -
Enzo the dog


>________________________________
>From: Brad Fornal
<tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>To: Spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Yahoo
Spridget list <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011
5:35 PM
>Subject: [Spridgets] Green Lighting
>
>In MY opinion, THIS is what
"GREEN" is about. NOT outlawing one light, to
>mandate, THROUGH FORCE, another
more expensive, more DANGEROUS TO DISPOSE OF
>light.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBWi3NtND68&feature=youtu.be
>I wouldn't put
one of these in my house, but 15 years ago, BEFORE the
>"green" bullshit amped
up, I DID put one of these in.
>http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/ODL-10-inch-Tubular-Skylight-Kit/475707
0/product.html?cid=202290&kid=9553000357392&adtype=pla&kw={keyword}
>Mine was
less than $100 at the time. I had a hallway so dark, that it needed
>a light
turned on in there at least once during the day. Since the
>installation, I
installed the optional light kit as well, I turn on a light
>in the hallway
ONLY in the evenings. I think it is fair to say that it has
>already paid for
itself more than once already.
>Just thought I would share.
>
>Brad
>
>--
>DON JULIO 1942
>
>http://tequilabrad.com/
>_______________________________________________
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 24 20:05:40 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:05:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvTuB9gQgwOOpai3x4PxLyapQ4wvYvWZY2RPdFG6w5gU6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com><201109241429991.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<CAHkEVvTuB9gQgwOOpai3x4PxLyapQ4wvYvWZY2RPdFG6w5gU6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6D6865ADCBA34912A03D3175D92A5F65@spider>

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 5:08 PM
To: Peter Caldwell
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure

I spend money wisely on booze and broads.  :)
==============================================
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 09:38 AM 9/24/2011, Trevor Jessie wrote:
>
>> All money made from the sale of these will be directly funneled back into
>> an
>> MG Midget project and not squandered on booze or broads.
>>
>
> Squandered?...................**....
_______________________________________________

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Sat Sep 24 21:18:41 2011
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:18:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
Message-ID: <9052.4cc9031.3baff791@aol.com>

Email me anytime you'd like Phil, and I'll do whatever I can to help you.  
If I don't have the answers, I'll know where to find them.
 
Also, login to the Message Forum at Mini Mania. Plenty of experts there,as  
well as the expert wannabe's.
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
'60 AH Bugeye Sprite
'68 Austin Mini

From herby at herbytoys.com  Sat Sep 24 21:47:20 2011
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:47:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
In-Reply-To: <6D6865ADCBA34912A03D3175D92A5F65@spider>
References: <CAHkEVvT4tC8YfQSovOKmqc1f7quTAWDeL=q-2UgCAkCq4hTZ=w@mail.gmail.com><201109241429991.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><CAHkEVvTuB9gQgwOOpai3x4PxLyapQ4wvYvWZY2RPdFG6w5gU6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<6D6865ADCBA34912A03D3175D92A5F65@spider>
Message-ID: <3A45DCE5F81F4FE89050D48BA9F88564@HERBYZ>

Unless it shows up on YouTube or Facebook.

Herby
62 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy)
00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com


What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.


I spend money wisely on booze and broads.  :)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 21:57:47 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:57:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <491C434B-DDA6-4720-8D4A-4159F6A15541@ado13.com>
References: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
	<491C434B-DDA6-4720-8D4A-4159F6A15541@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqnXD4x2pzWOgNEA3pRqsq4vs6M7NxG0mOheoPPRYRYow@mail.gmail.com>

Those that Larry can't answer can be directed at Peter Caldwell...  He's
also on this list and is an excellent source for quality parts for the car
when you need them

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> Phil
>
> There is a Mini list at team.net. It's not real active but there are
> numerous
> Mini people on the list. I have got answers for most questions.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Philip Nase wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with a
> 1966
> > Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to find some
> > resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Phil Nase
> > Quakertown, PA
> > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
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>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Sep 24 22:28:49 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:28:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shameless advert with full disclosure
In-Reply-To: <6D6865ADCBA34912A03D3175D92A5F65@spider>
Message-ID: <1819623150.129015.1316924929868.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Not now there's youtube and twitter :(

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

> What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
> 
> 
> 
> =========================================

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Sep 25 09:06:46 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:06:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris Krasnow: The Fine Line Between Marriage and Divorce
Message-ID: <423475475.20110925080646@pacifier.com>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/iris-krasnow/the-fine-line-between-mar_b_959372.html

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 11:11:29 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 12:11:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris Krasnow: The Fine Line Between Marriage and
 Divorce
In-Reply-To: <423475475.20110925080646@pacifier.com>
References: <423475475.20110925080646@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurDY0sm8T83KTindt5qO8cuJ136EucnBFMerfVpD5aRGg@mail.gmail.com>

Three times down the aisle and I assure you that one could use "find and
replace" "women" for "men" in that article and it would be equally as
accurate.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/iris-krasnow/the-fine-line-between-mar_b_959372.html
> _______________________________________________

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 17:40:03 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:40:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris Krasnow: The Fine Line Between Marriage and
 Divorce
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnurDY0sm8T83KTindt5qO8cuJ136EucnBFMerfVpD5aRGg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <423475475.20110925080646@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnurDY0sm8T83KTindt5qO8cuJ136EucnBFMerfVpD5aRGg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAFbJ+eyjNcNCxnYqAt2T9hvtXi3mDKOH__GW_omGHn2kw@mail.gmail.com>

Once for me, but I firmly believe marriage is the beginning of divorce!
Herb

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 25 21:46:48 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:46:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in Sheboygan?
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_6_Bq=CZKH00xY0PnKtohGi+y1onYT6p=hR232uAM+fQ@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone race in Sheboygan this weekend?  I'm in town but working, not
having much fun.
Go Pack, Go.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 04:09:50 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 03:09:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Maybe LBC Barrett Jackson this weekend
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVe_8k7WunNnahpW5GcmroH00Dwi9MneZoVjLZQMP8hxdg@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I didn't get to see Barrett Jackson last night (shampooed my carpeting and
too exhausted to remember), but I saw it the previous day where the 1962 VW
23 window bus sealing wax red and chestnut brown sold for around 57K which I
thought was very low in comparison to a few years ago when a 1960 VW camper
sold for 100K. I missed the crew cab bus auction did anyone catch what it
sold for?

Overall I though the bids were low but glad to see one of the BJ owners,
President Steve Davis' Ford Fairlane fetched 700K for his charity "Armed
Forces Foundation". Wished it was a million : ) but glad he got that.

Any Sprites at the auction?
Lin

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Sep 26 05:29:19 2011
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:29:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in Sheboygan?
Message-ID: <b828.769687cb.3bb1bc0f@aol.com>

Did you get there in time for the Runoffs at Road America this past  
weekend?
 
Howard

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 07:21:32 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:21:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in Sheboygan?
In-Reply-To: <b828.769687cb.3bb1bc0f@aol.com>
References: <b828.769687cb.3bb1bc0f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7969LoH_0bkxv4JFUcsdonJ9JvrWWmzzRLXJr25xc5o3A@mail.gmail.com>

I got here Thursday night but I've been working long hours since.  The
hotel was full with many SCCA folks.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:29 AM,  <Miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:
> Did you get there in time for the Runoffs at Road America this past weekend?
>
> Howard

From edwd at ti.com  Mon Sep 26 07:22:40 2011
From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:22:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Benny Hill
Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A03B731@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>

Benny Hill once sang in one of his songs, "I spent all my money on women and
drink and like a fool I squandered the rest!".  Then he smiled slyly at the
camera in that inimitable way of his.  Classic.

Ed

From grbyrns at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 08:42:37 2011
From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:42:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEJoGE057aMkO6b0_kTX+tCPyowb4LpH+ksorTBArPAmTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEJoGE057aMkO6b0_kTX+tCPyowb4LpH+ksorTBArPAmTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FF45C9E2-3E2A-41C4-B878-049DDFB4A63B@gmail.com>

Rebuilding a ribcase is easier than a Datsun and cheaper. One or two things to
watch for, call me or stop by.
Glen

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I need a new gear box for my 59.  I nearly snagged a 1972 midget rib case
> via eBay but missed it by a couple of dollars which might have not been a
> bad thing. .  . unknown condition although stated to have come off a car
> with 38k on the odometer with seller admitting that this may not actually
be
> the case.  . and moved well through all gears. .  but no tolerances checked
> by the seller.
>
> What is involved in rebuilding a rib case?  If I had the money at this
point
> I would go to a Datsun set up. .  but instead I need a decent rib case. (My
> rib case grinds in first to second and second to third).  Assuming it is
the
> balk rings, what do I know at this point?
>
> I am mechanically confident enough to know that I can screw up a gear box
> rebuild. . . ahh, think I can pull it off if I have the correct
> instructions.
>
> Anyhow.  . can someone tell me about how much are the parts to do a rebuild
> on a rib case and where are they sourced?   And or who on the list does
> rebuilds like this and of course I need to get an idea of the cost?
>
> Any help is always most appreciated. .
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kirk

From homehandy at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 26 09:08:26 2011
From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (HomeHandy)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:08:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEJoGE057aMkO6b0_kTX+tCPyowb4LpH+ksorTBArPAmTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEJoGE057aMkO6b0_kTX+tCPyowb4LpH+ksorTBArPAmTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D8C188D8E4D84793A5CCC331969D0A63@Snoopy>

Kirk,
I have rebuilt both smooth case and rib case trannys.  They are basically 
the same thing. The rib case is just a little beefier.
instructions in the Sprite Midget Workshop manual will get it done as well 
as the Haynes Manual for Midget/Sprites. Not too difficult if you follow the 
steps in the manual and watch for the detent balls and plungers and springs.

For parts, Gerard can probably tell you more there.

Where are you located?

Jeff


-----Original Message----- 
From: Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 5:13 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s

I need a new gear box for my 59.  I nearly snagged a 1972 midget rib case
via eBay but missed it by a couple of dollars which might have not been a
bad thing. .  . unknown condition although stated to have come off a car
with 38k on the odometer with seller admitting that this may not actually be
the case.  . and moved well through all gears. .  but no tolerances checked
by the seller.

What is involved in rebuilding a rib case?  If I had the money at this point
I would go to a Datsun set up. .  but instead I need a decent rib case. (My
rib case grinds in first to second and second to third).  Assuming it is the
balk rings, what do I know at this point?

I am mechanically confident enough to know that I can screw up a gear box
rebuild. . . ahh, think I can pull it off if I have the correct
instructions.

Anyhow.  . can someone tell me about how much are the parts to do a rebuild
on a rib case and where are they sourced?   And or who on the list does
rebuilds like this and of course I need to get an idea of the cost?

Any help is always most appreciated. .

Thanks,

Kirk

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From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Mon Sep 26 09:10:26 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:10:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Benny Hill
In-Reply-To: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A03B731@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>
References: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A03B731@DLEE01.ent.ti.com>
Message-ID: <000901cc7c5e$6c30cf90$44926eb0$@austin.rr.com>

He probably squandered the rest on old British cars.  :-)
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fisher, Ed
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:23 AM
To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net'
Subject: [Spridgets] Benny Hill

Benny Hill once sang in one of his songs, "I spent all my money on women and
drink and like a fool I squandered the rest!".  Then he smiled slyly at the
camera in that inimitable way of his.  Classic.

Ed

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 09:40:52 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:40:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
References: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OvbP9np+XHSAjdHon+=bj3BQ-Jm9W0BiWwH+1s+7ZB4bw@mail.gmail.com>

I remeber how much Frank C. hated a Mini he bought once.  He couldn't get
the thing to work.

I don't remember the specifics, though.  Anyone?

Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget


On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with a 1966
> Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to find some
> resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> _______________________________________________

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Mon Sep 26 11:11:53 2011
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:11:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OvbP9np+XHSAjdHon+=bj3BQ-Jm9W0BiWwH+1s+7ZB4bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110926171154.3KYFB.30719.root@hrndva-web22-z02>

I think team.net has a Mini list too, doesn't it?

> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with a 1966
> > Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to find some
> > resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Phil Nase
> > Quakertown, PA
> > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 11:14:58 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:14:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OvbP9np+XHSAjdHon+=bj3BQ-Jm9W0BiWwH+1s+7ZB4bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78D5CED0-4ABA-4698-8451-22888EDC05F0@verizon.net>
	<CAMEj5OvbP9np+XHSAjdHon+=bj3BQ-Jm9W0BiWwH+1s+7ZB4bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoRyO6CoDdfLe33VzfQ5vmo-_pO-uW=aTfpUbo+O8vLzA@mail.gmail.com>

Is that the one Frankie had and sold a couple of years ago?

Cheers!!
Incandescent Jim

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Allen Hefner <lbc77mg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I remeber how much Frank C. hated a Mini he bought once.  He couldn't get
> the thing to work.
>
> I don't remember the specifics, though.  Anyone?
>
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
>
> *Current:*
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with a
> 1966
> > Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to find some
> > resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Phil Nase
> > Quakertown, PA
> > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 26 13:36:05 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:36:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
In-Reply-To: <D8C188D8E4D84793A5CCC331969D0A63@Snoopy>
References: <CAMyxPEJoGE057aMkO6b0_kTX+tCPyowb4LpH+ksorTBArPAmTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<D8C188D8E4D84793A5CCC331969D0A63@Snoopy>
Message-ID: <4E80D425.6010009@justbrits.com>

<< ...watch for the detent balls and plungers and springs.  >>

And THAT friends, IS GOSPEL ! ! ! ! ! !

Many years ago I was partner with a young lass in a 59
Frogeye.  Gearbox was a tad " if " but when the motor spun
# 3 Main Bearing.................!

So she volunteered to do the box as long as I did motor
'work' + combo in & out + connect everything, etc., etc. ! !

About a month later me a pretty motor are enjoying a
brew on out front porch awaiting the gearbox.

On the second "mis-placed" detent ball [caught spring mid-
air <G> <??>], there were a couple "interesting" words from
the front room [next to porch <G>].   After a short time, I
heard some 'low level' verbiage to the effect of "I'm
gonna GET you ! !" and all went quiet.  Nothing went flying
BUT something was NOT correct so..........<G> <G> !!!

So now #4 effort is beginning and I'm guessin' it was
about half way thru returning said detent balls & springs
to their proper locations & orientations <VBG> ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
A string of words was put together and UTTERED in
a tonal range greater than any two chaps on this List,
ALONG with word 'connections' in forms I have NEVER
heard [still has NOT been beat to current date<G>] !!!!

I went in about 30 minutes later --- FOUR (4) empty
brew bottles (still chilly ! ! !) with fifth (5th) IN HAND
and mostly gone --- and I was advised that TWO (2) of
those __________________________________balls
and TWO (2) of those ___________________________
______________ springs were 'thought' to be IN this
room and if I wanted those ______________________
____________________________________________
_________________s, I could hunt/find said [see
foregoing 'spaceage' AND finish the reassembly !!!!!

Does anyone have ANY idea how HARD it was to maintain
my "composure" under these "circumstances" ???????????

NO prises !!  LOL !

Ed
1]  Please visit MY site at:               www.justbrits.com
2]  Please visit Frank C.'s site at:   www.spritenut.com

PS:  So HEED Jeff's "words" <G><G><G> ! ! ! !

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 15:25:50 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:25:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Calendars - Request for Pictures...
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupebPcN+jD_-N==C8rYR3ZvT=cTrRbdwzyN9WY+MtWm6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

Seth Jones has volunteered to take over the Sprite-Midget Club USA calendars
from David Lieb.  David did these wonderful calendars for 5 years and people
all over the world loved them!  Please thank David when you see him.

Anyway, this is a call for Spridget pictures - all kinds - all conditions -
everything from the Bugeye/Fogeye through the square bodies and the
1500s...   I'm sure this year's calendar will have lots of pages for the
Midget 50th both at Elkhart Lake and at Gaydon so please send any high
resolution images you wish to see on the calendar to "Seth Jones" <
sethamosjones at gmail.com>

Please also thank Seth for taking over this worth project!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From nases at verizon.net  Mon Sep 26 16:03:23 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:03:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <20110926171154.3KYFB.30719.root@hrndva-web22-z02>
References: <20110926171154.3KYFB.30719.root@hrndva-web22-z02>
Message-ID: <254A214A-B66D-4370-9577-1D23C8A124F8@verizon.net>

If there is one I can't find it in the forum listing. Anyone else see it?

Phil Nase
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:11 PM, <nory1 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> I think team.net has a Mini list too, doesn't it?
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for anyone on the list that may be able to help me with a
1966
>>> Mini Cooper S project I may soon get started on.  I'm trying to find some
>>> resources to help with dumb questions from a Mini newbie.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Phil Nase
>>> Quakertown, PA
>>> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 26 18:00:51 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:00:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <254A214A-B66D-4370-9577-1D23C8A124F8@verizon.net>
References: <20110926171154.3KYFB.30719.root@hrndva-web22-z02>
	<254A214A-B66D-4370-9577-1D23C8A124F8@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <90C91D91-F9BD-4B8C-B4C9-F120231B0300@ado13.com>

Try this..

1. visit
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minilist/join
-OR-
2. send email to minilist-subscribe at yahoogroups.com

Larry Miller

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 26 18:02:56 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:02:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini List
Message-ID: <8477E922-72D9-431E-BEE3-39921555CC3B@ado13.com>

Try this...

1. visit
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minilist/join
-OR-
2. send email to minilist-subscribe at yahoogroups.com

Larry

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Sep 26 18:08:44 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:08:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget contes LBC Mini
In-Reply-To: <254A214A-B66D-4370-9577-1D23C8A124F8@verizon.net>
References: <20110926171154.3KYFB.30719.root@hrndva-web22-z02>
	<254A214A-B66D-4370-9577-1D23C8A124F8@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <B201B470-AE78-4D7D-B43F-D62B71FC267A@chartermi.net>

There is a Mini mail list, but apparently no Mini forum.

mailto: majordomo at autox.team.net

Your message should contain: subscribe mini-list or subscribe
mini-list-digest

Rick

Sent from my keyboard


On Sep 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> If there is one I can't find it in the forum listing. Anyone else see it?
>
> Phil Nase
> home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:11 PM, <nory1 at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> I think team.net has a Mini list too, doesn't it?

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 00:37:18 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:37:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] They broke in and stole the woman's guns---the
	police.
In-Reply-To: <797947203.1648021.1317003363175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <1315183432.29487.YahooMailNeo@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<797947203.1648021.1317003363175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAEc0DB7ZoggVjAajeyom9H1U4hSF2tDP5-jdXy8cf=COw@mail.gmail.com>

When I hear/read this type of 'rights' violation, I really get upset.
 Sending it to our Sheriff.  I am on the "Sheriff's Advisory Council"
locally.
Thanks, Kate.
Herb

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 07:45:23 2011
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:45:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tyres
Message-ID: <1317131123.53565.YahooMailClassic@web46404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

155's or 165's? I'm buying new tyres. Do 165's improve traction enough to justify the added stress on the suspension?
AN5L/37190 was 'born' with whitewalls should I be original?
Driving from Cincinnati to Put-in-Bay this weekend with A-H Club.

From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Sep 27 11:42:02 2011
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:42:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Before I start fabricating
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>

a license plate holder for my Bugeye, it would seem I'm missing a part since
no license plate I've ever seen except maybe a motorcycle plate would fit
those holes on the back.  What am I missing?

Thanks,
Heard

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Sep 27 13:36:40 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:36:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Before I start fabricating
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1317152200.3789.YahooMailRC@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If it had a BMC US license plate, backing plate that might explain the holes 
being closer together than the holes in your license plate.

Look at the 3rd picture down on this page. It shows the factory U.S. backing 
plate.
http://www.teglerizer.com/midgetstuff/exterior.htm

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
63 Sprite Mk II
61 Innocenti 950





________________________________
From: Heard Saxon <heard at datatrontech.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, September 27, 2011 1:42:02 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Before I start fabricating

a license plate holder for my Bugeye, it would seem I'm missing a part since
no license plate I've ever seen except maybe a motorcycle plate would fit
those holes on the back.  What am I missing?

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 14:17:38 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:17:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Before I start fabricating
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OsgpCdZ3P04A8KjHHmjm2+BbyyQn0MV9AJ-Z6ofN-yYmg@mail.gmail.com>

Are you using a British tag?  Brit cars aren't necessarily made for American
tags.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Heard Saxon <heard at datatrontech.net> wrote:

> a license plate holder for my Bugeye, it would seem I'm missing a part
> since
> no license plate I've ever seen except maybe a motorcycle plate would fit
> those holes on the back.  What am I missing?
>
> Thanks,
> Heard
> _______________________________________________

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Sep 27 16:51:21 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:51:21 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
Message-ID: <20110927.165121.3976.0@webmail54.dca.untd.com>

<< ...watch for the detent balls and plungers and springs.  >>
I seem to remember that someone (Frank Maybe) used a hose clamp of appropriate
size with a few of the slots cut out to hold the detent balls in place so that
you can rotate the hose clamp to a hole, install a spring and ball, and rotate
to the next hole, etc. then slide the outer gear over as the hose clamp slides
off. then just disassemble the hose clamp. NO pain, no drama, no stinkin'
balls flying thru the air.

Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016



____________________________________________________________
60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27
Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e8253a3539a78e0b59st02duc

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Sep 27 16:53:40 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:53:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
Message-ID: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>

Thought this interesting.  I use no-ethanol premium.  Ethanol cost me 
the diaphragm in Bugeye's mechanical fuel pump.

*http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-hood-ethanol-classic-car

*or*

http://tinyurl.com/44nyuzn

*fwiw,*

*DW*
*

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 17:27:58 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:27:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Before I start fabricating
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_Bo2GfvgrP1p7-ohOP3Q7AueVeyK=C3WNTGENPgV=FFw@mail.gmail.com>

I like to take the license plate mounts from rubber bumper cars
because they have the license plate lights built into them.  Then, you
can run without rear bumpers, if you wish, as the license plate lights
on some Spridgets are built into the rear bumpers.  On a Bugeye,
though, it will differ.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 18:40:55 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:40:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
In-Reply-To: <20110927.165121.3976.0@webmail54.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110927.165121.3976.0@webmail54.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r8uio7EDjGQEAGA-9FQ+K=DjAEQrj2jG5Rpbtg6W4qbmg@mail.gmail.com>

I knew that Fisher Jones used to assemble his inside a ziplock bag, so that
the balls and springs would not go far.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> << ...watch for the detent balls and plungers and springs.  >>
> I seem to remember that someone (Frank Maybe) used a hose clamp of
> appropriate
> size with a few of the slots cut out to hold the detent balls in place so
> that
> you can rotate the hose clamp to a hole, install a spring and ball, and
> rotate
> to the next hole, etc. then slide the outer gear over as the hose clamp
> slides
> off. then just disassemble the hose clamp. NO pain, no drama, no stinkin'
> balls flying thru the air.
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27
> Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e8253a3539a78e0b59st02duc
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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http://tequilabrad.com/

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 21:54:09 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:54:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuphC+NZUciwE+Zj+nC7vDKROyiWVg1ESrStbnVoQZEd1A@mail.gmail.com>

I've been harping on this for several years now. Many either don't believe
it or ignore it thinking it can't happen to them. My antique and classic
motorcycle clubs discovered these problems some years ago.  They other thing
we discovered that he doesn't mention in this article is YOU CAN"T TRUST THE
PUMP LABELS THAT SAY NO ETHANOL!!  Some stations are religious about
changing the labels when they fill their reservoirs. Others pay little
attention to it. The only way to be SURE your gas is ethanol free is to buy
an ethanol test kit and test it EVERY TIME YOU FILL UP.

Ethanol in gas is the biggest boondoggle the government has perpetrated on
us lately. Don't get me started...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Thought this interesting.  I use no-ethanol premium.  Ethanol cost me
> the diaphragm in Bugeye's mechanical fuel pump.
>
> *
> http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-hood-ethanol-classic-car
>
> *or*
>
> http://tinyurl.com/44nyuzn
>
> *fwiw,*
>
> *DW*
> *
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 21:56:49 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:56:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
In-Reply-To: <20110927.165121.3976.0@webmail54.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110927.165121.3976.0@webmail54.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuo30NoNmjwd_3qgsWd=RA70hEVGW13dm5a61N0y8Gx1sw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> no stinkin' balls flying thru the air.
>

Too late....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Sep 27 22:58:36 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:58:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Before I start fabricating
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGe=UP6QoUz=Aiv+_XA16R8015wKfst+wGax4tZZQT_Dwv4YzA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F912E44DA0D641BBB9A7047F633A6ABC@blackbox2>

Shutup and start fabricating... :)

Take a 1" wide strip of brass sheet metal and bend it up on the vise.

As I recall it sort of looked like this...(side view)

------|______________|------

Drill accordingly to match up the top two holes on the license and the holes
on the car.  

Get a standard metal border frame to go around the license edge from local
auto store.

As I recall I just fasten the top two holes and I have a pad on the bottom. 
The lower portion of the plate is bolted to the border frame but not to the
above bracket.

I also used wing nuts on the inside to hold the above bracket to the car. 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:42 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Before I start fabricating

a license plate holder for my Bugeye, it would seem I'm missing a part since
no license plate I've ever seen except maybe a motorcycle plate would fit
those holes on the back.  What am I missing?

Thanks,
Heard
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Sep 27 23:50:01 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:50:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
Message-ID: <8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>

How old was the pump?

I don't doubt that ethanol has an impact.  I just don't believe 
the problem is as bad as made out to be.

By definition that guy in the video is working on 40+ year old cars.
Of course he is going to see a lot of dried out rubber.

It doesn't mean the ethanol did it.  

Ethanol most certainly did not rot out his vacuum advance diaphragm either.
That was just age.   

Shellac painted cork floats, yeah, that is probably an issue with ethanol.
But even after 40 years in gas I wouldn't trust them.

Just plain air will rot rubber and old cars often sit for protracted periods
of time and the fuel evaporates out of the carbs.  The next thing you know
the rubber is dried out.

I need to see something more scientific.  Like some sort of accelerated life
test.  

The only solid data I have heard about was ethanol's negative impact on
certain plastics.  Not rubber.

-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of Woerpel
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:54 PM
To: SPRIDGETS
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol

Thought this interesting.  I use no-ethanol premium.  Ethanol cost me 
the diaphragm in Bugeye's mechanical fuel pump.

*http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-
hood-ethanol-classic-car

*or*

http://tinyurl.com/44nyuzn

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Sep 28 06:32:13 2011
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuphC+NZUciwE+Zj+nC7vDKROyiWVg1ESrStbnVoQZEd1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56072520.2120060.1317213133892.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

What about using dry gas?B  isn't that supposed to remove the water in the
tank?B  Should we be using that when we let the car sit for over a week.B 
Would that help?

Ryan



----- Original Message -----


From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "SPRIDGETS" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:54:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

I've been harping on this for several years now. Many either don't believe
it or ignore it thinking it can't happen to them. My antique and classic
motorcycle clubs discovered these problems some years ago. B They other thing
we discovered that he doesn't mention in this article is YOU CAN"T TRUST THE
PUMP LABELS THAT SAY NO ETHANOL!! B Some stations are religious about
changing the labels when they fill their reservoirs. Others pay little
attention to it. The only way to be SURE your gas is ethanol free is to buy
an ethanol test kit and test it EVERY TIME YOU FILL UP.

Ethanol in gas is the biggest boondoggle the government has perpetrated on
us lately. Don't get me started...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Thought this interesting. B I use no-ethanol premium. B Ethanol cost me
> the diaphragm in Bugeye's mechanical fuel pump.
>
> *
>
http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-ho
od-ethanol-classic-car
>
> *or*
>
> http://tinyurl.com/44nyuzn
>
> *fwiw,*
>
> *DW*
> *
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 08:25:20 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:25:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <1419398278.169489.1317219682748.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <250807169.169565.1317219920519.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

My '65 Sprite had no problems until last year when I (stupidly) put ethanol fuel in for the last fill-up before winter.
This Spring my carbs were locked up!
After much work, I dissambled them to find greenish growths on the needles, the fuel bowl and main jets were jammed shut by similar green growths.  They could easily be seen and felt by these old fingers.

My deduction...Ethanol, being hygroscopic, absorbed moisture from the atmosphere and carried it to the carbs where, upon the gas evaporating, it left the water molecules behind to enable the brass needles and jests to corrode!

An "No", I'm not a beginner at this game!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I don't doubt that ethanol has an impact.  I just don't believe 
> the problem is as bad as made out to be.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 08:38:07 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:38:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
	<8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqvk7TSU2Mw0+z02BwHrPmWxhy2inrBYvoyeBXcvd5jQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dean,

There is plenty of sound science behind these warnings on ethanol but it hs
been surpressed by the government and the ethanol industry.  Try this...

http://newcarbuyingguide.com/index.php/news/main/5700/event=view

I quote Bill Siuru, PhD, Automotive Engineering:

"If you own an older vehicle, one built before the mid-1980s, you are more
likely to experience problems with even small amounts of alcohol, even E10.
A big problem is deterioration or swelling and hardening of rubber
components like fuel hoses, carburetor seals and gaskets, and fuel pump
seals. when in contact with ethanol. This may lead to fuel leaks. The
solution is replacement of components with ethanol compatible ones. Trying
to find and use non-ethanol fuel will be difficult.

Because ethanol absorbs water more readily, this can be especially
troublesome with vehicles that sit idle for extended periods. It can cause
rust in metal components such as fuel tanks. It can also cause pitting of
metal parts. If you plan to store a vehicle, run the tank dry before
storing.

While not usually a problem in vehicles, even low concentrations of ethanol
can damage fiberglass fuel tanks such as used in boats. Ethanol dissolves
the lining of fiberglass fuel tanks, often depositing a dark "sludge" inside
marine engines causing costly damage. Eventually, fiberglass tanks dissolve
until they fail, leaking fuel."

Owners of 1980s & 1990s K model BMW motorcycle (like me) are intimately
aware of the dangers of ethanol in fuel.  First, it is hygroscopic meaning
that it attracts water. Like crazy. You then get gelatinous "globs" in the
bottom of your fuel tank which plug fuel filters and transport water through
the fuel system (corrosion and rusting out of things like metal fuel pump
diaphragms - ask Dave W.). It also eats rubber and plastic over time so that
immersible fuel pumps (K model BMWs) suddenly overheat and fry (about $700
apiece). Even my wife's 2006 Silverado PU with submersible fuel pump warns
about excessive ethanol use (like E85) and requires periodic draining of the
fuel tank to get the ethanol formed globs out. IN the old days, gas and
water stayed separate - no problem. But not when there is ethanol (even E10)
in the mix.

Continue using it at your own risk.

Cheers!!
Jim
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> How old was the pump?
>
> I don't doubt that ethanol has an impact.  I just don't believe
> the problem is as bad as made out to be.
>
> By definition that guy in the video is working on 40+ year old cars.
> Of course he is going to see a lot of dried out rubber.
>
> It doesn't mean the ethanol did it.
>
> Ethanol most certainly did not rot out his vacuum advance diaphragm either.
> That was just age.
>
> Shellac painted cork floats, yeah, that is probably an issue with ethanol.
> But even after 40 years in gas I wouldn't trust them.
>
> Just plain air will rot rubber and old cars often sit for protracted
> periods
> of time and the fuel evaporates out of the carbs.  The next thing you know
> the rubber is dried out.
>
> I need to see something more scientific.  Like some sort of accelerated
> life
> test.
>
> The only solid data I have heard about was ethanol's negative impact on
> certain plastics.  Not rubber.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: On Behalf Of Woerpel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:54 PM
> To: SPRIDGETS
> Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
>
> Thought this interesting.  I use no-ethanol premium.  Ethanol cost me
> the diaphragm in Bugeye's mechanical fuel pump.
>
> *
> http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-
> hood-ethanol-classic-car
>
> *or*
>
> http://tinyurl.com/44nyuzn

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Sep 28 09:13:05 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:13:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <56072520.2120060.1317213133892.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <56072520.2120060.1317213133892.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F0678232-E641-428D-8155-093969449BF2@chartermi.net>

Dry gas or "Heet" or any of the other variations are nothing but alcohol.  The
idea is the alcohol will absorb any water in your fuel and "dry" it out.  Gas
with ethanol in it already has a great propensity to absorb water from the
air.  Therein lies one of the many problems with this type of fuel.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 28, 2011, at 8:32 AM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> What about using dry gas?B  isn't that supposed to remove the water in the
> tank?B  Should we be using that when we let the car sit for over a week.B
> Would that help?
>
> Ryan

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 09:59:11 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:59:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] format test - do not reply :)
Message-ID: <1658018858.171113.1317225551927.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

format test - do not reply :)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 28 11:31:36 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] format test - do not reply :)
In-Reply-To: <1658018858.171113.1317225551927.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1658018858.171113.1317225551927.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1317231096.59901.YahooMailNeo@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Of course you realize that you can't tell this group to not reply and actually
get away with it...
 
 - David

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 11:33:46 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:33:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] format test - do not reply :)
In-Reply-To: <1317231096.59901.YahooMailNeo@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1481876312.172694.1317231226258.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Well... it was worth a shot <Grin>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Of course you realize that you can't tell this group to not reply and
> actually get away with it...

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Sep 28 12:05:32 2011
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:05:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <F0678232-E641-428D-8155-093969449BF2@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <1744227312.2142818.1317233132270.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

so if there are no ethanol free options near us, what do we do?

Ryan



----- Original Message -----


From: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:13:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

Dry gas or "Heet" or any of the other variations are nothing but alcohol.
B The
idea is the alcohol will absorb any water in your fuel and "dry" it out. B Gas
with ethanol in it already has a great propensity to absorb water from the
air. B Therein lies one of the many problems with this type of fuel.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 28, 2011, at 8:32 AM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> What about using dry gas?B B isn't that supposed to remove the water in the
> tank?B B Should we be using that when we let the car sit for over a week.B
> Would that help?
>
> Ryan
Suggested annual donation B $12.75
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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 28 12:24:03 2011
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:24:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol
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I don't know if it was this forum or not where I heard this, but a
supposedly knowledgeable mechanic who services fleet vehicles recommends
Schaeffer Oil's Soy Ultra as an additive to minimize the effect of water
absorbed by ethanol.  Anybody else heard this or used this product?  Doug   
....o~'o

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 13:16:04 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:16:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
	<8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
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On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Dean Hedin wrote:
>
> The only solid data I have heard about was ethanol's negative  
> impact on
> certain plastics.  Not rubber.

Dean,

I replaced the fuel hoses on my 71 Midget 3 times in a single year.   
The hose was dissolving away on the inside and blocking up the jets  
in the float bowls as well as blocking the fuel filters.  I didn't  
have this problem when I could buy gas without ethanol added to it.    
The hose was new (modern) hose from NAPA and Advance Auto.  I finally  
replaced all the hose sections with VW braided hose no problems since.


Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Sep 28 13:38:25 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <1744227312.2142818.1317233132270.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1317238705.77063.YahooMailClassic@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I use a product called StarTron available at Home Depot or Lowes.

http://mystarbrite.com/startron/

I use it in my Bugeye and my Harley Davidson.  When my BN2 is finished, I'll
use it there too.
Mike MacLean

--- On Wed, 9/28/11, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:05 PM

so if there are no ethanol free options near us, what do we do?

Ryan



----- Original Message -----


From: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:13:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

Dry gas or "Heet" or any of the other variations are nothing but alcohol.
B The
idea is the alcohol will absorb any water in your fuel and "dry" it out. B
Gas
with ethanol in it already has a great propensity to absorb water from the
air. B Therein lies one of the many problems with this type of fuel.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Sep 28, 2011, at 8:32 AM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> What about using dry gas?B B isn't that supposed to remove the water in the
> tank?B B Should we be using that when we let the car sit for over a week.B
> Would that help?
>
> Ryan
Suggested annual donation B $12.75
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 13:49:40 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:49:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol
In-Reply-To: <1317234243.71737.YahooMailNeo@web125710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <747891051.174528.1317239380670.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Their web site makes no claims re Watre/ethanol for the Ultra.
 
But their web site has this..
http://www.schaefferoil.com/tank-dry.html 

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Doug Altman" <doug_altman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't know if it was this forum or not where I heard this, but a
> 
> supposedly knowledgeable mechanic who services fleet vehicles
> recommends
> 
> Schaeffer Oil's Soy Ultra as an additive to minimize the effect of
> water
> 
> absorbed by ethanol.  Anybody else heard this or used this product? 
> Doug
> 
> ....o~'o

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 28 14:10:16 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:10:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
	<8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
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Just to toss in some more info..  when I went about changing a clutch it meant
that my car, and thus carbs, sat in unused gas , indoors for 5 months or so.
When it was all back together the stuff that came out to the fuel filter bowl
looked like yellowish milk.  After replacing the fuel I had almost 2 miles
before the car ran like caca.  It started running very rich.  Took off the
airfilter housing and fuel came out of the carb throat onto the new paint, ate
it just like brake fluid.

I called Joe Curto and he said that if I had been using the car continually
there would likely have been no problem but letting it sit and dry in the
carbs does cause problems.

I won't say it's the ethanol as there are many ingredients in the fuel but I
have NEVER seen 5 month old fuel in a closed system look that bad nor have i
ever seen it take off new paint, clearcoat, color, epoxy primer right down to
bare metal.

Lester


On Sep 28, 2011, at 12:50 AM, Dean Hedin wrote:

> How old was the pump?
>
> I don't doubt that ethanol has an impact.  I just don't believe
> the problem is as bad as made out to be.
>
> By definition that guy in the video is working on 40+ year old cars.
> Of course he is going to see a lot of dried out rubber.
>
> It doesn't mean the ethanol did it.
>
> Ethanol most certainly did not rot out his vacuum advance diaphragm either.
> That was just age.
>
> Shellac painted cork floats, yeah, that is probably an issue with ethanol.
> But even after 40 years in gas I wouldn't trust them.
>
> Just plain air will rot rubber and old cars often sit for protracted
periods
> of time and the fuel evaporates out of the carbs.  The next thing you know
> the rubber is dried out.
>
> I need to see something more scientific.  Like some sort of accelerated
life
> test.
>
> The only solid data I have heard about was ethanol's negative impact on
> certain plastics.  Not rubber.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: On Behalf Of Woerpel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:54 PM
> To: SPRIDGETS
> Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
>
> Thought this interesting.  I use no-ethanol premium.  Ethanol cost me
> the diaphragm in Bugeye's mechanical fuel pump.
>
>
*http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-
> hood-ethanol-classic-car
>
> *or*
>
> http://tinyurl.com/44nyuzn
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 14:16:24 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:16:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
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Good question.  There may be more ethanol free gas near you than you
realize. Buy the little kit and test whenever you are about to buy gas.
Otherwise, don't leave the car sit for more than a few days without taking
it out for a drive. If it is going to sit for a while, I'd drain the fuel
system as much as possible.  Float bowls, fuel tank, fuel pump and fuel
lines. When you put the car back on the road, replace the fuel filter.

Maybe someone else has better ideas?

Cheers!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> so if there are no ethanol free options near us, what do we do?
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:13:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>
> Dry gas or "Heet" or any of the other variations are nothing but alcohol.
> B The
> idea is the alcohol will absorb any water in your fuel and "dry" it out. B
> Gas
> with ethanol in it already has a great propensity to absorb water from the
> air. B Therein lies one of the many problems with this type of fuel.
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Sep 28, 2011, at 8:32 AM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
>
> > What about using dry gas?B B isn't that supposed to remove the water in
> the
> > tank?B B Should we be using that when we let the car sit for over a
> week.B
> > Would that help?
> >
> > Ryan
> Suggested annual donation B $12.75
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Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 14:25:48 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:25:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <F2F2DD8A-F4FC-48BD-B65B-379FF024850F@gmail.com>
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
	<8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
	<F2F2DD8A-F4FC-48BD-B65B-379FF024850F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoojRiSgqhVVqR+u-+smBG180CPiY80hr7LB=E8acQwUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Kevin,

That is the same stuff all our antique and vintage BMW bike people are going
to. I have it on all 3 of mine now and no more problems with the fuel
lines....  except for the submersible stuff in the fuel tank of the 1989
model....

Actually, BMW has been using that fuel line on all their bikes since about
1953....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Dean Hedin wrote:
> >
> > The only solid data I have heard about was ethanol's negative
> > impact on
> > certain plastics.  Not rubber.
>
> Dean,
>
> I replaced the fuel hoses on my 71 Midget 3 times in a single year.
> The hose was dissolving away on the inside and blocking up the jets
> in the float bowls as well as blocking the fuel filters.  I didn't
> have this problem when I could buy gas without ethanol added to it.
> The hose was new (modern) hose from NAPA and Advance Auto.  I finally
> replaced all the hose sections with VW braided hose no problems since.
>
>
> Kevin V.
> Tuscarora, Pa
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Sep 28 14:41:47 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:41:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
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There are some options, but they're not easy or cheap.  Race gas is one.
$10-12 a gallon and not easy to find.  Some airports sell ethanol free auto
gas for use in Rotax ultralight engines.  $5-6 a gallon and you have to pump
it into a can.

The best option might be to elect a new president.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard



On Sep 28, 2011, at 2:05 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> so if there are no ethanol free options near us, what do we do?
>
> Ryan

From rich_ball at mindspring.com  Wed Sep 28 14:44:17 2011
From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:44:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net><8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
	<F2F2DD8A-F4FC-48BD-B65B-379FF024850F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <733296B6EDC24E0CB1CDB04E6C96B3AE@psych.washington.edu>

Unfortunately it can be even worse.  I stopped by a carburetor shop that my 
dad's shop uses (Marine engines) the other day to chat with the owner about 
the carb on my old motor home.  We of course stated talking about other 
things and got on to the subject of ethanol.  He pulled out a float bowl 
form a fairly new Holley where the coating on the inside had been eaten away 
and the metal was corroding.  All due to the ethanol in the fuel.  This is 
not solid data, but if this guy tells me it's from ethanol I believe him. 
Carbs are this guys thing and he's been doing it for 35 years.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Valentine" <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol


> On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Dean Hedin wrote:
>>
>> The only solid data I have heard about was ethanol's negative
>> impact on
>> certain plastics.  Not rubber.
>
> Dean,
>
> I replaced the fuel hoses on my 71 Midget 3 times in a single year.
> The hose was dissolving away on the inside and blocking up the jets
> in the float bowls as well as blocking the fuel filters.  I didn't
> have this problem when I could buy gas without ethanol added to it.
> The hose was new (modern) hose from NAPA and Advance Auto.  I finally
> replaced all the hose sections with VW braided hose no problems since.
>
>
> Kevin V.
> Tuscarora, Pa
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 15:45:10 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:45:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuqESKrORaYTdFkpRcxmVFvLPrOPFcNTqC0ryd4M55ikbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <414755378.176095.1317246310182.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Start here:

pure-gas.org

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe someone else has better ideas?

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 16:19:05 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:19:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for the heads up
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEJxrdygq-0B2WMSWWM1a_W11o1hi36fh3PWmZZtA2gYeg@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

Re. detent balls and springs


I may be buying a 72 Midget rib case from one of our listers.  . but very
good info if I do a rebuild on my own.

Thanks. .  .

Kirk

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 16:19:49 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:19:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <1317238705.77063.YahooMailClassic@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Thanks, Mike.  This stuff looks great.  I'll give it a try...

Ummmm...  You don't happen to have stock in the company do you...?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>wrote:

> I use a product called StarTron available at Home Depot or Lowes.
>
> http://mystarbrite.com/startron/
>
> I use it in my Bugeye and my Harley Davidson.  When my BN2 is finished,
> I'll
> use it there too.
> Mike MacLean
>
> --- On Wed, 9/28/11, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:05 PM
>
> so if there are no ethanol free options near us, what do we do?
>
> Ryan

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 16:22:44 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:22:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol
In-Reply-To: <1317234243.71737.YahooMailNeo@web125710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAJgjnuphC+NZUciwE+Zj+nC7vDKROyiWVg1ESrStbnVoQZEd1A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABQj3r_7dgi+fRZ_NvxpYgBOMFD5zP9_nAQfwYOi+J7heGu8+A@mail.gmail.com>

I have used nothing but Schaeffer's in my two Nissans, and will not use
anything else. I also am a HUGE supporter of their Penetro 90, it's a moly
based spray lube, and their orange oil cleaner, Citrol
I had put a 2" x 6" strip of grease/oil, across the belly of my shirt. I put
it out on the washer, but Martha didn't notice that it needed a treatment.
She had washed and dried it, and was getting ready to hang it up, when I
showed her the stain, which was now set. I sprayed it down with Citrol, took
the brush off of my FastOrange jug, and worked it into the stain. One more
round through the washer, and the stain was GONE.
I do not own stock in the company, nor do I work for them, but I have always
been pleased with their products that I have tried so far.

Brad

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Doug Altman <doug_altman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't know if it was this forum or not where I heard this, but a
> supposedly knowledgeable mechanic who services fleet vehicles recommends
> Schaeffer Oil's Soy Ultra as an additive to minimize the effect of water
> absorbed by ethanol.  Anybody else heard this or used this product?  Doug
> ....o~'o
> _______________________________________________
>
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 16:26:59 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:26:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Detent Balls and Springs
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEKNtnRdz4ikZQOxOMM+fD73Bxjk8vpkGp2xYbt4UZd9Xg@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

The couple of times I have had my rib case out with the engine (I always
pull the two together).

There were balls or dowel shaped metal plugs and springs as I recall that go
into the side . . where the right side of the side plate will have a gasket
over it in place before putting the side plate back on.

It has been a good while . . I may not be describing this very well . . but
I think you know what I am talking about.

I made sure that they went back in the way they were as one came out and did
an Indian war dance across my garage floor.

What are these for?  Again. .  the ones that go into the holes drilled into
the side plate gasket area on the right side?

Just curious as no doubt these are important to the gear box at some level.

Thanks,

Kirk

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Sep 28 16:47:53 2011
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:47:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol
Message-ID: <a0fjo3$d87ukf@email.mtu.edu>

Never heard of this, but poking around the Material Safety Data 
Sheets, I found it contains less than 5% of some ingredients Xylene, 
Ethylbenzene, & Naphthalene and an undisclosed amount of Methyl Soyat 
and other stuff to make 100%.

I pulled up the Methyl Soyat MSDS 
(<http://www.doc.state.nc.us/eprise/products/msds/55-205msds.pdf>http://www.doc.state.nc.us/eprise/products/msds/55-205msds.pdf 
) and found this stuff is used as a stainless steel cleaner/polish. 
Poke around the MSDS sheets for each ingredient and try to figure out 
how ethanol would be affected. MSDS for Methyl Soyat says: No hazards 
anticipated from incidental ingestion or industrial exposure. Some of 
the other ingredients in the Schaeffer Oil product are thought to 
kill people (but only in California.)

It basically seems to look like a lubricant to me. Not sure how that 
would decrease the harmful effects of ethanol.



Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/  

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 16:52:31 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:52:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol - Fuel Sta-bil
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEKsAXE_+1TM3BxySs90MY4dAcdmyreo_OUQ1rd32KuuOA@mail.gmail.com>

Dave,


Did you run Fuel Sta-bil through your system before the winter season? If
not do you think that you might have avoided the problem you describe or no?

I am wondering as it seems that ethanol could still be injurious no matter
if you had used Fuel Sta-bil or not?

Thanks. . .

Kirk

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep 28 17:42:02 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:42:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <414755378.176095.1317246310182.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <CAJgjnuqESKrORaYTdFkpRcxmVFvLPrOPFcNTqC0ryd4M55ikbA@mail.gmail.com>
	<414755378.176095.1317246310182.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1041182585.20110928164202@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

     I've been using whatever is in the pumps. The only problem I've
     seen is that my fuel economy isn't up to snuff over the past
     couple of years. I've had no problems with fuel lines, pump,
     carbs or anything else. The car sits most of the winter in an
     unheated garage, though I do try to drive it at least once a
     month. When spring comes it fires right off.  I only put in
     Chevron Supreme except when we went to LoTO  three years ago
      and had to fill with what we could find..

     YMMV

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  I want to die , in my sleep, like my grandfather, not
  screaming, in terror like the passengers in his car.

From kmappley at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 18:16:47 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Ethanol--Rib Case rebuild--Fabricating
Message-ID: <CANv6dsDWm3AzTGTr=h68dMG1Z0Vme=3ut1-h-ySw=fb5UhXCmA@mail.gmail.com>

I give up on trying to defend Ethanol. If  some of you had just had your 17
year old dog die it would have been caused by Ethanol.  I'm sure that
everything the government has ever done or will do is suspect!! Especially
if someone from the D party was within a mile when it happened!

As to the trans I used plenty of heavy grease to hold the errant parts in
place and didn't have trouble but I cleaned my bench and shop before hand
and had the radio turned off so that I could find any lost parts.
(Like the zip-lok bag idea.)

A standard American licence holder that came on nearly every Brit car will
bolt up to the BE. Suggest flea bay.

Kurt.

From kmappley at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 18:35:02 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:35:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Ethanol
Message-ID: <CANv6dsAX2QV_Z22EQEJyW99uPy+9KV3vtrZSZnH=V8Rzz5b2qQ@mail.gmail.com>

BTW I'm sure glad that I don't have to spend a bunch of money and time with
ethanol test kits or additives. Been using the stuff in everything  for at
least 25 years now and no problems. Don't worry about gas line freeze up in
the middle of winter or fuel tank rusting anymore either cause the ethanol
got rid of the water in my tank.

Couldn't keep my mouth shut!
Kurt.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 28 18:43:29 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:43:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Just Got Back from the Goodwood Revival
Message-ID: <1317257009.69266.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Virtually, that is.  OK, it's on my bucket list but not in the cards this
year.  British ITV4 did a nice job of covering it, but didn't show any
Healeys.  If you want to see it though,  you need to have a UK IP address. No
worries, mate. Go here and download the player to get a UK IP:
[url=http://www.expatshield.com]Expat Shield[/url] then enter this for a url
to see the video: [url=http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=276686]Video
- ITV Player[/url]
It's a PITA, but totally worth it.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 19:00:17 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 01:00:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1317258038.19530.spridgets@autox.team.net>

All the first options are correct. The last option is off. This has nothing to do with the president. This has to do with a strong corn lobby and elected senators and congressmen that take the corn lobby money.


------Original Message------
From: Rick Fisk
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
Sent: Sep 28, 2011 4:41 PM

There are some options, but they're not easy or cheap.  Race gas is one.
$10-12 a gallon and not easy to find.  Some airports sell ethanol free auto
gas for use in Rotax ultralight engines.  $5-6 a gallon and you have to pump
it into a can.

The best option might be to elect a new president.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard



On Sep 28, 2011, at 2:05 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> so if there are no ethanol free options near us, what do we do?
>
> Ryan
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Sep 28 19:05:49 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:05:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol - Fuel Sta-bil
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEKsAXE_+1TM3BxySs90MY4dAcdmyreo_OUQ1rd32KuuOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEKsAXE_+1TM3BxySs90MY4dAcdmyreo_OUQ1rd32KuuOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E83C46D.20505@wi.net>

Kirk,

Another interesting question!   I used to Sta-bil the tank when putting 
the cars away for the winter.  I used to replace the float bowl rubber 
gaskets on the SU H type carbs every year also, sometimes twice a year 
if I didn't get to drive it much.  I started thinking maybe the methanol 
in the Sta-bil was causing the problem.  I now fill the tank with 
ethanol-free premium in the fall and do not use Sta-bil and have not 
replaced an rubber gasket in 2 years.

To be fair to the the mech. fuel pump it was the one I had when I bought 
the car in 1977.  However, it worked fine at the 50th and on the way 
home I was desperate for gas and had to put in 3 gallons of E10.  When I 
removed the pump and looked at the diaphragm it was de-laminated.  Not 
sure if that makes a difference or not.  I'm soaking some old 
diaphragms  and some rubber gaskets in E10 to see if there is any 
adverse affects.

Dave W.
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500


On 9/28/2011 5:52 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
> Dave,
>
>
> Did you run Fuel Sta-bil through your system before the winter season? If
> not do you think that you might have avoided the problem you describe or no?
>
> I am wondering as it seems that ethanol could still be injurious no matter
> if you had used Fuel Sta-bil or not?
>
> Thanks. . .
>
> Kirk

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Wed Sep 28 20:10:34 2011
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:10:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rib Case - Rebuild Question/s
In-Reply-To: <20110927.165121.3976.0@webmail54.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110927.165121.3976.0@webmail54.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <201109290210.p8T2Aj0H015597@mail.usimperio.com>

I use a coffee can and a rubber band off the celery you get at the 
grocery store.  Haven't lost a ball or spring since.

Dave



At 06:51 PM 9/27/2011, you wrote:
><< ...watch for the detent balls and plungers and springs.  >>
>I seem to remember that someone (Frank Maybe) used a hose clamp of appropriate
>size with a few of the slots cut out to hold the detent balls in place so that
>you can rotate the hose clamp to a hole, install a spring and ball, and rotate
>to the next hole, etc. then slide the outer gear over as the hose clamp slides
>off. then just disassemble the hose clamp. NO pain, no drama, no stinkin'
>balls flying thru the air.
>
>Mark Haynes
>It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
>HAN6L12977
>HAN5L8016
>
>
>
>__________________

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Wed Sep 28 20:19:37 2011
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:19:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Detent Balls and Springs
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEKNtnRdz4ikZQOxOMM+fD73Bxjk8vpkGp2xYbt4UZd9Xg@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEKNtnRdz4ikZQOxOMM+fD73Bxjk8vpkGp2xYbt4UZd9Xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201109290219.p8T2JmdJ015627@mail.usimperio.com>

They are the detents for the shifting rods. They "lock" the shifting 
rods in position as you shift gears and they also prevent you from 
trying to move two shifting forks at a time. When you move the 
shifter into a gear you can feel them push into the depression of the 
shifting rods. They are rods ( beans ) and a ball or there are 3 or 4 
balls. Worked on too many transmissions to remember which takes which 
without my books.

Dave

At 06:26 PM 9/28/2011, you wrote:
>Mark,
>
>The couple of times I have had my rib case out with the engine (I always
>pull the two together).
>
>There were balls or dowel shaped metal plugs and springs as I recall that go
>into the side . . where the right side of the side plate will have a gasket
>over it in place before putting the side plate back on.
>
>It has been a good while . . I may not be describing this very well . . but
>I think you know what I am talking about.
>
>I made sure that they went back in the way they were as one came out and did
>an Indian war dance across my garage floor.
>
>What are these for?  Again. .  the ones that go into the holes drilled into
>the side plate gasket area on the right side?
>
>Just curious as no doubt these are important to the gear box at some level.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kirk
>________________

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 28 20:27:06 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:27:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <1041182585.20110928164202@pacifier.com>
References: <CAJgjnuqESKrORaYTdFkpRcxmVFvLPrOPFcNTqC0ryd4M55ikbA@mail.gmail.com><414755378.176095.1317246310182.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<1041182585.20110928164202@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <929D0E089E384947A437E7356A610335@blackbox2>

Bill L said...
     "I've had no problems with fuel lines, pump,
     carbs or anything else. The car sits most of the winter in an
     unheated garage, though I do try to drive it at least once a
     month."


Agreed, I think the real key is to not let the car sit for an extended
period of time, no matter what you're running in it.  As soon as fuel starts
evaporating you are going to run into trouble.

I've rebuilt a lot of 2 stroke carburetors in my time and there is one thing
I have learned...

Rubber diaphragms suck.  They sucked before ethanol and they suck with
ethanol.

Even in there heyday mechanical diaphragm fuel pumps never really lasted
very long.  They were always getting a small pinhole or tear in them
somewhere.

That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.

I am more concerned about Kevin V.'s comments on having to replace
fuel line 3 times in one year.  He makes it sound like it's the Andromeda
strain.  I don't doubt him.  But that is not what I have experienced. 
Maybe he is getting E85 as opposed to the 5-10% blends in my area?

I replaced all my rubber fuel hose almost 3 years ago. For the most part
I've been running Sunoco premium with Bardal's lead substitute additive.
I make the effort to run the car every weekend, even through the winter.   

I do notice the car is harder to start after sitting for a week, and this I
attribute to fuel evaporation in the carbs.     

I have a clear fuel filter up by the carbs and I have not seen anything
unusual. There is about 1 foot of rubber hose back by the electric pump near
the tank.  There is still the line connecting the carbs. If that is
deteriorating then I would probably see stuff in the float bowls.  

So, given Kevin V.'s comments, I am going to drop the float bowls in a few
weeks and take a look and see what's in there.  If I see even a bit of
rubber blackness then I will become a believer.

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 21:03:10 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:03:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol - Fuel Sta-bil
In-Reply-To: <4E83C46D.20505@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1171864664.179867.1317265390268.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Now *that* is a worthwhile experiment...

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Woerpel" <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
> I'm soaking some old diaphragms  and some rubber gaskets
> in E10 to see if there is any adverse affects.

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 21:34:26 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:34:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <20110929020212.6275C187971@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <931702124.13230.1317267266596.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Yup ... I bet Chuck Grassley from Iowa would take the job in a heartbeat. But then on the other hand ....

The best option might be to elect a new president.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 28 21:42:39 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:42:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol - Fuel Sta-bil
In-Reply-To: <4E83C46D.20505@wi.net>
References: <CAMyxPEKsAXE_+1TM3BxySs90MY4dAcdmyreo_OUQ1rd32KuuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E83C46D.20505@wi.net>
Message-ID: <E921F93AEA2F426C94F6B8BDDFEE2A5D@blackbox2>

OK, there we go. You got 34 years out of that pump.  It's a miracle.

You should be praising the ethanol for keeping the rubber pliable for those
last 10 years!

From pfeilmat at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 22:53:01 2011
From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matthew Pfeil)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:53:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Question
Message-ID: <7E4F4983-4E17-459B-88D4-9592ABC5D8CE@sbcglobal.net>

Hi all.

I recently acquired a Parrot MKi9200 hands free cellular set up from a friend.
It was installed in a Toyota 4Runner LImited 2005 and had the custom harness
for that application. I am asking all the Spridgeters out there if anyone has
ever had one of these or does have one and still has the factory harness. Not
a custom plug and play version, the harness that came with the thing. If you
do and you are wanting to get rid of it, I may make it worth your while if I
could buy it from you. Please message me private if you can help with this. I
have already contacted Parrot in the UK and the soonest that they will have
spare harnesses to send out is Oct 12.

Matt P
EX 1976 Spridget  Owner
EX 1978 Spridget Owner

From pvanwig at me.com  Wed Sep 28 21:58:01 2011
From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:58:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Detent Balls and Springs
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEKNtnRdz4ikZQOxOMM+fD73Bxjk8vpkGp2xYbt4UZd9Xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEKNtnRdz4ikZQOxOMM+fD73Bxjk8vpkGp2xYbt4UZd9Xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C31CCC60-7626-40FD-AF77-A3591FF2A290@me.com>

Shifting rod detente 

Paul Van Wig
Long Beach/Big Bear
pvanwig at Mac.com
Sent from my iPhone
So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons)

On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> The couple of times I have had my rib case out with the engine (I always
> pull the two together).
> 
> There were balls or dowel shaped metal plugs and springs as I recall that go
> into the side . . where the right side of the side plate will have a gasket
> over it in place before putting the side plate back on.
> 
> It has been a good while . . I may not be describing this very well . . but
> I think you know what I am talking about.
> 
> I made sure that they went back in the way they were as one came out and did
> an Indian war dance across my garage floor.
> 
> What are these for?  Again. .  the ones that go into the holes drilled into
> the side plate gasket area on the right side?
> 
> Just curious as no doubt these are important to the gear box at some level.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kirk

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Sep 28 23:21:27 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:21:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol - my last words.
In-Reply-To: <399308445.180834.1317273549447.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1646339144.180843.1317273687432.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

At
http://www.eaa.org/autofuel/autogas/test_kit.asp
notice the FAA's comments on ethanol fuels, and that they are trying to ensure that at least some premium fuels be ethanol free in all states for "safe general aviation".  

BTW The last time I checked:-
Washington state allows up to 10% Ethanol *without* labeling.
11 States do NOT require any labelling.
The remaining states require labeling at 1.5% Ethanol or more.

ACE (The American Coalition for Ethanol) no longer provides the status of Ethanol 'enhanced' fuels to the general public even though their website states,"to create public awareness of the uses and benefits of ethanol, at the same time dispelling fears and erroneous product information...".

I will now cease commenting on this thread --- each to his own !!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Sep 28 23:21:45 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:21:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol - Fuel Sta-bil
In-Reply-To: <E921F93AEA2F426C94F6B8BDDFEE2A5D@blackbox2>
References: <CAMyxPEKsAXE_+1TM3BxySs90MY4dAcdmyreo_OUQ1rd32KuuOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E83C46D.20505@wi.net> <E921F93AEA2F426C94F6B8BDDFEE2A5D@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <56201.184.216.195.158.1317273705.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

I would be, except I've used E10 only once.  Not enough to have any effect
I would think so that's why I'm doing the experiment. :-)


> OK, there we go. You got 34 years out of that pump.  It's a miracle.
>
> You should be praising the ethanol for keeping the rubber pliable for
> those
> last 10 years!

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 07:39:37 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:39:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BE on craigslist, Klamath Falls OR
Message-ID: <CABWjhcJttSjMkuk+cbFpM1mpGupuoi6v16XdKRujBqWvkjcZdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like an honest little car for $2995.
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2623025803.html

Rick Bastedo

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 08:37:37 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:37:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <929D0E089E384947A437E7356A610335@blackbox2>
References: <CAJgjnuqESKrORaYTdFkpRcxmVFvLPrOPFcNTqC0ryd4M55ikbA@mail.gmail.com>
	<414755378.176095.1317246310182.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<1041182585.20110928164202@pacifier.com>
	<929D0E089E384947A437E7356A610335@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqNw0UGbXvF-Lmm6600tvHh1Etb1XJPe_pWRM0P0RS69Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>

His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
age....   ;-)

Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in the
auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 29 10:25:08 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:25:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuqNw0UGbXvF-Lmm6600tvHh1Etb1XJPe_pWRM0P0RS69Q@mail.gmail.com>
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So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the 
field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and knowledgeable 
people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have 
anything to do with that did it?






-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>

His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
age....   ;-)

Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in the
auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.

-- 
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 29 10:55:50 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:55:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] format test - do not reply :)
Message-ID: <234f.de58ffd.3bb5fd16@aol.com>

Yeah, and it didn't have no LBC either!.............Where are the list  
police or Montana Bob when you need them.
 
 
 
In a message dated 28/09/2011 19:22:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

Of  course you realize that you can't tell this group to not reply and  
actually
get away with it...

- David

From frogeye at cox.net  Thu Sep 29 11:48:41 2011
From: frogeye at cox.net (alan)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:48:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] help identifying the differences in A series oil pans
Message-ID: <CADDDE23B6BC4AECBB76B66C00B6DCFE@frogeye>

I have several oil pans from donor motors here and need to know which one fits
a 1275CC motor
Can anyone help or send photos in pointing out which is which or things to
look for?

Thanks in advance

Alan

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 12:27:28 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:27:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
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Larry,

I suspect the debate on global warming is driven more by denial. If I admit to global warming then I have to make life style changes. By ignoring the volume of hard data, including the hard to miss melting of the ice caps, people feel comfortable using more energy per capita and spewing  out more greenhouse gases than any other country.

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:25:08 
To: Jim Johnson<bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the 
field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and knowledgeable 
people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have 
anything to do with that did it?






-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>

His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
age....   ;-)

Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in the
auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.

-- 
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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 29 12:53:34 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:53:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] an actual Spridget question.. or 2
Message-ID: <201109291153643.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Helping a guy last night tune a recently rebuilt 1275 from a basket...

Timing   what do you like at what RPM.  Essentially stock.. w/268 cam

Exhaust.... what is the stock diameter?  I think this one's too small.

Thanks

Peter C

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Thu Sep 29 13:45:26 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:45:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <436240C2635A42158F82D92B5D7CC768@HomePC>
Message-ID: <1317325526.19680.YahooMailClassic@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

No, government funding did.  You don't bite the hand that feeds.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 4:25 PM

So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the
field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and knowledgeable
people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have
anything to do with that did it?






-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>

His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
age....   ;-)

Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in the
auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.

--
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Thu Sep 29 13:47:35 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <20110929193236.8CA8A1878EB@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1317325655.11146.YahooMailClassic@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

It's not so much denying global warming, it being arrogant enough to think
that man influenced it when we only occupy a tiny portion of the planet.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

--- On Thu, 9/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

From: an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>,
spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 6:27 PM

Larry,

I suspect the debate on global warming is driven more by denial. If I admit to
global warming then I have to make life style changes. By ignoring the volume
of hard data, including the hard to miss melting of the ice caps, people feel
comfortable using more energy per capita and spewing  out more greenhouse
gases than any other country.

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:25:08
To: Jim Johnson<bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the
field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and knowledgeable
people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have
anything to do with that did it?






-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>

His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
age....   ;-)

Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in the
auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.

--
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From daredelvis at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 13:59:43 2011
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:59:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
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Well to be fair, a large number of politicians, a few industry funded
scientists, people who claim to be scientists on an online petition AND
almost all of the guys who like to yell on the radio are in disagreement
with that "large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in
the field of climatology" and the National Academy of Sciences (an
organization with a reputation of engaging in unfounded claims and
hysteria).

Brian
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the
> field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and knowledgeable
> people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have
> anything to do with that did it?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
> >
>
> His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
> age....   ;-)
>
> Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in the
> auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
> ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
> anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 14:05:13 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:05:13 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
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Mike,

Not sure what you mean by "arrogant". Is this the same arrogance shown by companies that dumped toxic chemicals in our rivers and justified it on the basis of how large the river is versus how little they were dumping so therefore they could not have caused the pollution problems.

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:47:35 
To: Larry Daniels<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; <spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net>; Jim Johnson<bmwwxman at gmail.com>; <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
Cc: spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

It's not so much denying global warming, it being arrogant enough to think that man influenced it when we only occupy a tiny portion of the planet.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2 
02 Heritage Springer

--- On Thu, 9/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

From: an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>, spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 6:27 PM

Larry,

I suspect the debate on global warming is driven more by denial. If I admit to global warming then I have to make life style changes. By ignoring the volume of hard data, including the hard to miss melting of the ice caps, people feel comfortable using more energy per capita and spewing  out more greenhouse gases than any other country.

Steve
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:25:08 
To: Jim Johnson<bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the 
field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and knowledgeable 
people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have 
anything to do with that did it?






-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>

His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
age....   ;-)

Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in the
auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.

-- 
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From frogeye at cox.net  Thu Sep 29 14:13:02 2011
From: frogeye at cox.net (alan)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:13:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] help with a 1275 oil pan question
Message-ID: <FD6C9F88830E491880FC0DB73713FAA5@frogeye>

how can one tell the differences with various oil pans?

I want to confirm I have a 1275 cc pan here if possible
thanks
Alan

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 14:51:52 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:51:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] an actual Spridget question.. or 2
In-Reply-To: <201109291153643.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
Exhaust.... what is the stock diameter?  I think this one's too small.
---------------------------------------------------------
If he has a stock exhaust manifold with the 3 studs, it is the right
size for factory... If he has a manifold with a clamp, there are
different sizes for 1275, 1098 and 948. The 67 pre-smog 1275 used a
clamp.

What does he have for a manifold?

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 29 15:05:59 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:05:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] an actual Spridget question.. or 2
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0yKO4VFwqdzFNiRLmWt98MhsTpNqMdNRfVWm8YORJQFGg@mail.g
	mail.com>
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That's why I am asking.... it is the clamp style, but there are 
several potential issues. The car originally had a 1098, now it's 
1275, and it feels choked to me.   It is not a 948 as that would be 
the double crook.
         Peter
===
At 03:51 PM 9/29/2011, CosmicMag1380 wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>Exhaust.... what is the stock diameter?  I think this one's too small.
>---------------------------------------------------------
>If he has a stock exhaust manifold with the 3 studs, it is the right
>size for factory... If he has a manifold with a clamp, there are
>different sizes for 1275, 1098 and 948. The 67 pre-smog 1275 used a
>clamp.
>
>What does he have for a manifold?
>
>--
>Kent
>1960 Bugeye
>1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
>2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 15:31:35 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:31:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] help with a 1275 oil pan question
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1317331916.19530.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Compared with a 948 pan the 1275 has bump out to give the rod ends more clearance. Don't have an 1100 so do not know where that falls.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: alan
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] help with a 1275 oil pan question
Sent: Sep 29, 2011 4:13 PM

how can one tell the differences with various oil pans?

I want to confirm I have a 1275 cc pan here if possible
thanks
Alan
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Sent from me.

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Sep 29 16:10:40 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:10:40 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
References: <1317325655.11146.YahooMailClassic@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9BD03796C59D4B388DDC87910D6B4CEA@user8634b3d69b>

The bacteria that can kill me only occupy a tiny portion of me....

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; 
<spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net>; "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>; 
<an5.sprite at gmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol


> It's not so much denying global warming, it being arrogant enough to think
> that man influenced it when we only occupy a tiny portion of the planet.
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> 02 Heritage Springer
>
> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
> To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>,
> spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 6:27 PM
>
> Larry,
>
> I suspect the debate on global warming is driven more by denial. If I 
> admit to
> global warming then I have to make life style changes. By ignoring the 
> volume
> of hard data, including the hard to miss melting of the ice caps, people 
> feel
> comfortable using more energy per capita and spewing  out more greenhouse
> gases than any other country.
>
> Steve
> Sent from me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:25:08
> To: Jim Johnson<bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>
> So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the
> field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and 
> knowledgeable
> people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have
> anything to do with that did it?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>>
>
> His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
> age....   ;-)
>
> Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in 
> the
> auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
> ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
> anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Thu Sep 29 17:18:57 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:18:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <9BD03796C59D4B388DDC87910D6B4CEA@user8634b3d69b>
References: <1317325655.11146.YahooMailClassic@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<9BD03796C59D4B388DDC87910D6B4CEA@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <A8E36555-17E7-4F86-96CA-63D7AF22A53A@att.net>

You don't have the same ability or resources to repair yourself as the earth
does.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 29, 2011, at 15:10, "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> The bacteria that can kill me only occupy a tiny portion of me....
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean"
<rrengineer.mike at att.net>
> To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>;
<spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net>; "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>;
<an5.sprite at gmail.com>
> Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>
>
>> It's not so much denying global warming, it being arrogant enough to think
>> that man influenced it when we only occupy a tiny portion of the planet.
>>
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>> 02 Heritage Springer
>>
>> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: an5.sprite at gmail.com <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>> To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>,
>> spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 6:27 PM
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I suspect the debate on global warming is driven more by denial. If I admit
to
>> global warming then I have to make life style changes. By ignoring the
volume
>> of hard data, including the hard to miss melting of the ice caps, people
feel
>> comfortable using more energy per capita and spewing  out more greenhouse
>> gases than any other country.
>>
>> Steve
>> Sent from me.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:25:08
>> To: Jim Johnson<bmwwxman at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>>
>> So a large majority of very respected and knowledgeable scientists in the
>> field of climatology are not credible, but very respected and
knowledgeable
>> people in the auto industry are?  Really?  Gee, politics didn't have
>> anything to do with that did it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:37 AM
>> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That's why I was wondering how old Woerpel's pump was.
>>>
>>
>> His pump failed and I'm sure he didn't appreciate the reference to his
>> age....   ;-)
>>
>> Seriously people... A lot of very respected and knowledgeable people in
the
>> auto industry are beginning to discover problems in older vehicles due to
>> ethanol fuel mixes. The fact that you haven't seen problems yet is purely
>> anecdotal. The science is sound.  This is NOT the global warming hysteria.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim Johnson
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Sep 29 17:27:49 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:27:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] help identifying the differences in A series oil
 pans
In-Reply-To: <CADDDE23B6BC4AECBB76B66C00B6DCFE@frogeye>
Message-ID: <20110929232749.UA5R7.93919.root@hrndva-web16-z02>

if I recall from Frank, there was a mesh type pattern stamped on the lip of the pan.  He was looking for one and remember looking through the couple I have.

Chris
---- alan <frogeye at cox.net> wrote: 
> I have several oil pans from donor motors here and need to know which one fits
> a 1275CC motor
> Can anyone help or send photos in pointing out which is which or things to
> look for?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Alan
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From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Thu Sep 29 18:17:19 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:17:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun transmissions
Message-ID: <48DAA76A-5411-485C-AE45-D7F9A7E0A46C@comcast.net>

   I am looking for a 5 speed datsun transmission to go on a rebuilt  
1275cc motor for my 1959 bugeye.I would like to use Gerard's clutch  
and back plate kit.Do these transmisiions require modifications of the  
tunnel? Which specific transmission should I get? I would like one  
that is already rebuilt if possible.

From kmappley at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 19:18:52 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:18:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Ethanol
Message-ID: <CANv6dsA0FVYdPEPh=MX90kGhuhThGQhRQKBvdHKU9zKZq1Fi=g@mail.gmail.com>

Just tired  of hearing folks constantly blaming every problem on ethanol
blended gas. This has been hashed out enough.

 When ethanol came out in the 80's I couldn't wait to put it in my MGB
because I had overhauled the engine in the 70's and raised the compression
ratio right before octane levels plummeted. Ethanol gas gave me back some
octane and made the B tolerable.
Just sold the B  a year ago after having run all that time and, guess what,
it still ran great.

Currently have 5 brit cars all running on ETHANOL!
2 with original fuel lines and 1 with carbs that have never been apart. My
MGA is currently running like crap but then I am thinking of selling it
since I never get around to driving it (2 many cars??). It never got a tank
of fuel run completely thru it last year and I just topped it up before
storing it for the winter. I'm just now burning that fuel out so I can fill
the tank with new fuel for winter. I always fill my tanks before winter to
lessen the area in the tank for condensation. Don't buy into the Sta- Bil
gimmick. The A ran a lot better after I added a couple of gallons of new
fuel and will run great once I get a full tank. Other than the A the rest
run fine.

Yes, I've heard the arguments.
Less energy in a molecule of ethyl alcohol so one would expect less mileage.
I always though so but a friend has done a comparison and claims he sees no
difference.

Fuel, water separation is possible if the fuel is overloaded with water. Ive
never seen this and when I think about it, it seems highly unlikely since
the fuel cleans the water out of fuel tanks. Seems the only way that could
happen is if the station let rain water run into their tank.
Had that happen once with non blended fuel and just barely made it home.
Drained the water into a jug, went back to the station and filled my pickup
from a different tank. I then gave the attendant back his water, refused to
pay for the fill up and drove off!!
 As mentioned, I've never had hose trouble but have heard of some lousy hose
on the market that probably wouldn't stand up to regular non ethanol blend.
I too would love to buy the red ethyl gas we got in the 60's for the same 32
cents but I've learned to face reality.

Kurt.

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep 29 19:38:41 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:38:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <A8E36555-17E7-4F86-96CA-63D7AF22A53A@att.net>
Message-ID: <333755256.193147.1317346721269.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

"Save the earth"?  No need!
The planet will last a long time without any interference, thank you....
It's the bipedal carbon-based infestation that's in trouble!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Mike MacLean" <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:

> You don't have the same ability or resources to repair yourself as the
> earth does.

From nases at verizon.net  Thu Sep 29 20:01:34 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:01:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun transmissions
In-Reply-To: <48DAA76A-5411-485C-AE45-D7F9A7E0A46C@comcast.net>
References: <48DAA76A-5411-485C-AE45-D7F9A7E0A46C@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <601FA6C5-87F7-48E0-A30B-370BEECB3295@verizon.net>

Jess,  if Gerard has the trans he can modify the bell housing to avoid any
mods to the car.  Otherwise you will need to widen the area under the heater
plenum just a bit. The ones I've seen have just crushed the bottom of the
plenum to allow it to fit.

Gerard cuts and patches the bell housing so it slides right in.

I think he has the trans numbers on his site. Call him if your lucky he may
have some on hand.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

>  I am looking for a 5 speed datsun transmission to go on a rebuilt 1275cc
motor for my 1959 bugeye.I would like to use Gerard's clutch and back plate
kit.Do these transmisiions require modifications of the tunnel? Which specific
transmission should I get? I would like one that is already rebuilt if
possible.
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From twobees at sprynet.com  Thu Sep 29 20:09:00 2011
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:09:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)
Message-ID: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>

I've been busy with work & club work & this is first chance I've had to
chime in on this discussion.  I admit, I haven't read all of the posts on
the subject, and I am not a scientist.  BUT, I've seen enough evidence in my
own old cars to know that ehtanol isn't good for old cars.  Then the other
day, I received an email about something the HVA has been involved in.  I
strongly suggest that you go to:
http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-h
ood-ethanol-classic-car
 
Now, if you want to deny that ethanol is harming our cars, (or if you
believe that Santa Claus is real) do NOT go to that site and view the video.

 
Norm

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Sep 29 20:48:58 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:48:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Ethanol
In-Reply-To: <1185344282.194200.1317350456848.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <798023034.194294.1317350938341.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Physics:
1 cc of ethanol has less calorific content than 1 cc of gasoline.
Real life:
I see a significant difference in my Civic, as does my #2 son in his twin-turbo Z and my #4 son in his Mitsubishi.
We all keep good vehicle records.
The Civic averages 43.5 mpg on Ethanol-free vs 39.5 with 10%(?) Ethanol. 
Good enough for this average Joe <g>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Kurt Appley" <kmappley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Less energy in a molecule of ethyl alcohol so one would expect less
> mileage.
> I always though so but a friend has done a comparison and claims he
> sees no difference.

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Sep 29 21:26:43 2011
From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:26:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)
In-Reply-To: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
References: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
Message-ID: <1317353203.46507.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Santa Claus isn't real?
                      Crash
________________________________
Now, if you want to deny that ethanol is
harming our cars, (or if you
believe that Santa Claus is real) do NOT go to
that site and view the video.


Norm

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 22:01:43 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:01:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Sprite-MidgetClub] OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <4E850610.5090801@justbrits.com>
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Is Iowa the place where Fugly cars crawl off to die?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
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> **
>
>
> Whilst this 'car' is based on a 1951 Triumph............
>
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> even I could NOT do something like it to an Edsel ! ! ! ! !
>
> There is a link to one of the "body" men a tad below the
> info area. Take it if you dare <G> <G> ! ! !
>
> Anon (don't want 'credit' for THIS post <G>)
>
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Sep 29 22:54:23 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:54:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets]  help with a 1275 oil pan question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.663.1317338365.19533.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.663.1317338365.19533.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <0CE0C9AD-7D82-433F-A33F-718D66068D2B@gerardsgarage.com>

Hi Alan,

The section that fits the main caps is larger than any of the others.  
Even the 2" main 1098 is smaller. The strainer has a larger fitting in  
the block too.

Gerard

On Sep 29, 2011, at 4:19 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:13:02 -0400
> From: "alan" <frogeye at cox.net>
> To: "list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] help with a 1275 oil pan question
> Message-ID: <FD6C9F88830E491880FC0DB73713FAA5 at frogeye>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> how can one tell the differences with various oil pans?
>
> I want to confirm I have a 1275 cc pan here if possible
> thanks
> Alan

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Sep 29 23:40:10 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:40:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Ethanol
In-Reply-To: <798023034.194294.1317350938341.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAAAA44A.1BF82%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I see a significant difference in my Civic, as does my #2 son in his
> twin-turbo Z and my #4 son in his Mitsubishi.
> We all keep good vehicle records.
I see about 10 miles per gallon between California Winter gas and Summer
gas, but I don't think it has a different ethanol content. There may be more
factors in the equation.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 00:20:47 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:20:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)
In-Reply-To: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
References: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
Message-ID: <F893DB92F09B48FF892B2AEE5B5791EB@blackbox2>

Norm, that's the video that Woerpel originally posted that got this whole
ball rolling.  

I went and saw the video and I do deny it (most of it)!

Look back at the earlier posts to see my reasons.  

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)

I've been busy with work & club work & this is first chance I've had to
chime in on this discussion.  I admit, I haven't read all of the posts on
the subject, and I am not a scientist.  BUT, I've seen enough evidence in my
own old cars to know that ehtanol isn't good for old cars.  Then the other
day, I received an email about something the HVA has been involved in.  I
strongly suggest that you go to:
http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-h
ood-ethanol-classic-car
 
Now, if you want to deny that ethanol is harming our cars, (or if you
believe that Santa Claus is real) do NOT go to that site and view the video.

 
Norm

From ahmjsprite at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 01:45:53 2011
From: ahmjsprite at yahoo.com (Michael Johnson)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <F2F2DD8A-F4FC-48BD-B65B-379FF024850F@gmail.com>
References: <4E8253F4.4090504@wi.net>
	<8414C4BE8AC14DA2BA996ECA35F2C2E6@blackbox2>
	<F2F2DD8A-F4FC-48BD-B65B-379FF024850F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1317368753.43774.YahooMailNeo@web114619.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I go to my local speed shop and buy VP 110. A little pricey but engine starts
quick and runs great. 

Mike



________________________________
From: Kevin
Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
To: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Cc:
Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:16
PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ethanol

On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Dean Hedin
wrote:
>
> The only solid data I have heard about was ethanol's negative  
>
impact on
> certain plastics.  Not rubber.

Dean,

I replaced the fuel hoses
on my 71 Midget 3 times in a single year.  
The hose was dissolving away on
the inside and blocking up the jets  
in the float bowls as well as blocking
the fuel filters.  I didn't  
have this problem when I could buy gas without
ethanol added to it.    
The hose was new (modern) hose from NAPA and Advance
Auto.  I finally  
replaced all the hose sections with VW braided hose no
problems since.


Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 02:57:34 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 03:57:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <333755256.193147.1317346721269.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <A8E36555-17E7-4F86-96CA-63D7AF22A53A@att.net>
	<333755256.193147.1317346721269.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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So you are saying that all these earthquakes, tsunami's, tornado's,
hurricane's, etc. etc. are NOT global warming, but Mother nature fighting
off her infection?
LOL
Does anyone remember glaciers? Didn't they cut the mountain ranges in the
US? They were gone when the first settlers arrived on our continent. I guess
man inventing fire STARTED the whole "global warming" trend. I wonder how
long the climatologists have been tracking the growth and retraction of
glaciers. Long enough to have some REAL data?  I know this has been a hot as
hell summer, but if those glaciers ever come back, to make new mountains,
I'd say we would have on HELL of a problem

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Dave KK7SS <kk7ss at frontier.com> wrote:

> "Save the earth"?  No need!
> The planet will last a long time without any interference, thank you....
> It's the bipedal carbon-based infestation that's in trouble!
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>  Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>
> ----- "Mike MacLean" <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
>
> > You don't have the same ability or resources to repair yourself as the
> > earth does.
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 05:48:36 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:48:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Ethanol
Message-ID: <mailman.5.1317383338.19530.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I have also seen back to nach difference of 5-10 percent in fuel economy for the same trip and weather.

Summer, winter and the weight of the right foot all can make big differences.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Billy Zoom
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Dave KK7SS
To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re  Ethanol
Sent: Sep 30, 2011 1:40 AM

> I see a significant difference in my Civic, as does my #2 son in his
> twin-turbo Z and my #4 son in his Mitsubishi.
> We all keep good vehicle records.
I see about 10 miles per gallon between California Winter gas and Summer
gas, but I don't think it has a different ethanol content. There may be more
factors in the equation.
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 30 06:53:26 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:53:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)
In-Reply-To: <1317353203.46507.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
	<1317353203.46507.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <52898924D0994A97A4C8E203F61BE545@Home>

> Santa Claus isn't real?

Of course he's real, silly.  He just ran off with the Tooth Fairy, and no 
one has seen him in a long time.

Michael Rowe 

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 08:29:19 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:29:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)
In-Reply-To: <52898924D0994A97A4C8E203F61BE545@Home>
References: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
	<1317353203.46507.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<52898924D0994A97A4C8E203F61BE545@Home>
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?


On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Santa Claus isn't real?
>>
>
> Of course he's real, silly.  He just ran off with the Tooth Fairy, and no
> one has seen him in a long time.
>
>
Are you saying that Santa is gay?
Hal

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Sep 30 08:39:48 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:39:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Re  Ethanol
In-Reply-To: <318391423.197875.1317393325625.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2098359347.197942.1317393588623.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Aaah yes...
My Honda Civic average drops to just under 39.5 mpg using winter blend as compared to 43.5 on summer blend.

One day, when I'm rich. I'd like to try a tank of AV-Gas.. just one.... just once <G>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> I see about 10 miles per gallon between California Winter gas and
> Summer gas, but I don't think it has a different ethanol content.
> There may be more factors in the equation.

From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri Sep 30 09:02:55 2011
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:02:55 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: [Sprite-MidgetClub] OMG
 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds8378839E6BD9C90D1EF76D4F70@phx.gbl>

retch, spew, hurl, barf :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:01 AM
To: Sprite-MidgetClub at yahoogroups.com
Cc: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com,
spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [midgetsprite] Re: [Sprite-MidgetClub] OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is Iowa the place where Fugly cars crawl off to die?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Whilst this 'car' is based on a 1951 Triumph............
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/675mroc
> *
> even I could NOT do something like it to an Edsel ! ! ! ! !
>
> There is a link to one of the "body" men a tad below the
> info area. Take it if you dare <G> <G> ! ! !
>
> Anon (don't want 'credit' for THIS post <G>)
>
> PS: TR3driver, plz post to Triumph List ! ! !
>
>



--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From lists at dinospider.com  Fri Sep 30 09:51:55 2011
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:51:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
Message-ID: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>

     Any long time person on this list knows I don't have a Spridget but 
I am building a 1934 Singer Le Mans and putting in a 1098 motor into it, 
the woodwork on the body is taking longer that I anticipated but its 
progressing nicely.  There were 300+ of these cars built and my original 
motor had a hole in the side of the block big enough for a crankshaft to 
come through, because well, it did.  I could not find a original motor 
and decided to put the 1098 in since I need to make no mods to the 
frame, the original Singer motor was 972cc and the Spridget motor is a 
perfect fit. I now have a original good block, I just need to have a 
crank made somewhere.

   I also own a much bigger 1934 1.5 Litre Sports, this car has a 
cracked but repairable 6 cylinder motor, it also has some "seeping" in 
the water jackets implying very thin water jackets due to rust/corrosion 
and that may be a issue when I rebuild it.   The big issue with this car 
is it is very rare, the estimates are that only 11 were built and only 7 
known cars remain so I don't want to butcher it.   The estimate I have 
for rebuilding this motor along with crack repair and porcelainizing the 
water jackets, etc. are 5,000 to 7,000 UK Pounds ($7,500 to $11,000) and 
that does not include crating and shipping to the UK, etc, so for the 
motor alone I need to budget $10,000 and it likely will be more.   I 
just don't have that kind of cash hanging around...

  Last night  my wife and I were talking about it and she asked what the 
other motor in the garage was and said why don't you put that in the car 
?  Now I will NOT destroy what likely is the most original 1.5 left in 
the world and I will NOT destroy a car that rare with a the wrong motor, 
but she has a point.   I have a running (barely, needs a rebuild) 1275 
and 3 ribcase gearboxes, 2 should be ok, so for little money and time I 
could swap motors while I save up the money for a proper rebuild of the 
original motor.  I can do the swap without having to drill holes, no 
cutting of the Singer frame, no "permanent" mods of the Singer chassis.

  Now, the original Singer motor is 6 cylinders, 1,497CC's and put out a 
peak of 46BHP, the 1275CC puts out a peak of 62BHP or 75BHP depending on 
which web site I look at, so its a smaller motor with more power.

  The Singer weights 1 ton, 2 hundreweight, 0 quarters, 14lbs or in 
terms most of us understand 2,478lbs.  The Spridget weighs 1,575lbs.

  So I am putting in a more powerful motor into a 900lb. heavier car, 
but I think it would still move the car, right ?

  The Spridget motor is of course much lighter than the 6cylinder so 
some weight will come off the car, but i am not sure how much.

   I am not trying to build a hot rod here, the car never was a hot rod 
to begin with, just trying to get the car on the road while I save up 
money and get the proper motor rebuilt.  My concern is the weight 
difference, will the 1275 move the car, I think yes since the car was 
originally powered by a larger but much weaker motor.

  And no, I am not thinking of a different motor like a 1,500cc MG, I am 
thinking 1275 because I have one.

   Mike

From lists at dinospider.com  Fri Sep 30 11:01:46 2011
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:01:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] a bit of test and question about the list
Message-ID: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>

  Is there a length limit on postings to this list ?

  I wrote up a lengthy e-mail this morning and sent it off and have not 
seen it yet, but other posts are coming so I know its working.

  So this is a test to see if I get this from the list and a question 
about lengths of e-mails to the list.

     mike

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 11:47:48 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:47:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OsHpnOAFmEUiTPTP6BtN3aCyULpkG+Yhc_d0-sfU-nyeg@mail.gmail.com>

A kewl idea, Mike.

What you need to look at is the difference in torque between the two
engines.  Torque is what gets the car moving, not horsepower.  As they say,
"Torque wins races.  Horsepower sells cars."  My guess is that the smaller
engine may have some trouble getting it moving, but you can always start
pointing down hill.  Once you have some momentum, the 1275 should be able to
keep it going well.

Now let's hear from some people who know what they are talking about.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Mike Rambour <lists at dinospider.com> wrote:

>    Any long time person on this list knows I don't have a Spridget but I am
> building a 1934 Singer Le Mans and putting in a 1098 motor into it, the
> woodwork on the body is taking longer that I anticipated but its progressing
> nicely.  There were 300+ of these cars built and my original motor had a
> hole in the side of the block big enough for a crankshaft to come through,
> because well, it did.  I could not find a original motor and decided to put
> the 1098 in since I need to make no mods to the frame, the original Singer
> motor was 972cc and the Spridget motor is a perfect fit. I now have a
> original good block, I just need to have a crank made somewhere.
>
>  I also own a much bigger 1934 1.5 Litre Sports, this car has a cracked but
> repairable 6 cylinder motor, it also has some "seeping" in the water jackets
> implying very thin water jackets due to rust/corrosion and that may be a
> issue when I rebuild it.   The big issue with this car is it is very rare,
> the estimates are that only 11 were built and only 7 known cars remain so I
> don't want to butcher it.   The estimate I have for rebuilding this motor
> along with crack repair and porcelainizing the water jackets, etc. are 5,000
> to 7,000 UK Pounds ($7,500 to $11,000) and that does not include crating and
> shipping to the UK, etc, so for the motor alone I need to budget $10,000 and
> it likely will be more.   I just don't have that kind of cash hanging
> around...
>
>  Last night  my wife and I were talking about it and she asked what the
> other motor in the garage was and said why don't you put that in the car ?
>  Now I will NOT destroy what likely is the most original 1.5 left in the
> world and I will NOT destroy a car that rare with a the wrong motor, but she
> has a point.   I have a running (barely, needs a rebuild) 1275 and 3 ribcase
> gearboxes, 2 should be ok, so for little money and time I could swap motors
> while I save up the money for a proper rebuild of the original motor.  I can
> do the swap without having to drill holes, no cutting of the Singer frame,
> no "permanent" mods of the Singer chassis.
>
>  Now, the original Singer motor is 6 cylinders, 1,497CC's and put out a
> peak of 46BHP, the 1275CC puts out a peak of 62BHP or 75BHP depending on
> which web site I look at, so its a smaller motor with more power.
>
>  The Singer weights 1 ton, 2 hundreweight, 0 quarters, 14lbs or in terms
> most of us understand 2,478lbs.  The Spridget weighs 1,575lbs.
>
>  So I am putting in a more powerful motor into a 900lb. heavier car, but I
> think it would still move the car, right ?
>
>  The Spridget motor is of course much lighter than the 6cylinder so some
> weight will come off the car, but i am not sure how much.
>
>  I am not trying to build a hot rod here, the car never was a hot rod to
> begin with, just trying to get the car on the road while I save up money and
> get the proper motor rebuilt.  My concern is the weight difference, will the
> 1275 move the car, I think yes since the car was originally powered by a
> larger but much weaker motor.
>
>  And no, I am not thinking of a different motor like a 1,500cc MG, I am
> thinking 1275 because I have one.
>
>  Mike
> ______________________________**_________________

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 12:32:02 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:32:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] a bit of test and question about the list
In-Reply-To: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <CAM6-RjfdxDkATP6ksJ2cKX-+8ELOxabQVex_chSmg=Y71h9xgg@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,
I don't know exactly what it is, but I remember Frank had to split up his
treatise on overhauling SUs into two (or was it three?0 pieces.
MJB could probably say exactly...
Hal

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mike Rambour <lists at dinospider.com> wrote:

>  Is there a length limit on postings to this list ?
>
>  I wrote up a lengthy e-mail this morning and sent it off and have not seen
> it yet, but other posts are coming so I know its working.
>
>  So this is a test to see if I get this from the list and a question about
> lengths of e-mails to the list.
>
>    mike
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Sep 30 12:39:42 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:39:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] a bit of test and question about the list
In-Reply-To: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <1317407982.24453.YahooMailRC@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Mike, 

I received it and am still reading it.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Mike Rambour <lists at dinospider.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, September 30, 2011 1:01:46 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] a bit of test and question about the list

Is there a length limit on postings to this list ?

I wrote up a lengthy e-mail this morning and sent it off and have not seen it 
yet, but other posts are coming so I know its working.

So this is a test to see if I get this from the list and a question about 
lengths of e-mails to the list.

    mike
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 12:41:10 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:41:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] a bit of test and question about the list
In-Reply-To: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <1317408070.31124.YahooMailNeo@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, there seems to be a limit, though not sure what it is. Sometimes, really
long ones come thru, but it can take a while.
 
 - David Booker
Long Island

From lists at dinospider.com  Fri Sep 30 12:44:33 2011
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:44:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <1941948790-1317406810-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1458862615-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry>
References: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
	<1941948790-1317406810-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1458862615-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4E860E11.8070506@dinospider.com>

  Both these replies are exactly what I was worried about.  I assumed 
the car would move just fine since it moved up to a top speed of 90mph 
with the original motors and braver men then me in the old days.  But HP 
also needs torque.  I don't know if they knew what torque was in 1934 
:)    I do have the BHP at various RPM for the Singer motor, so if I 
could find that for the Sprite I should be able to compare.

   I did also think I could swap the rear axle with a Spridget rear axle 
since I do happen to have one but that is a LOT more work and would 
prefer to avoid it.

  This could get this car on the road in no time at all, just a quickie 
rebuild of a 1275 (already runs but poorly and smokes bad) and some 
metal fabricating for brackets, etc.  and then I could work on the 
original motor at my leisure and when I have the money, yes I am afraid 
that day would never come but my wife says it will.

     mike

On 09/30/2011 11:20 AM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote:
> Mike,
>
> This sounds like a perfectly reasonable approach. The only possible problem I could see is that the power band on the 6 cylinder motor was at a much lower RPM than the 1275. If that turned into a big issue the "fix" would be a higher ratio rear if that is at all possible.
>
> Spouses can be pretty helpful at times!!!
>
> Steve
On 09/30/2011 10:59 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote:
> Mike,
>
> These sound like fun projects.
>
> Overall I like the way you think, but the one thing I have to add to 
> your dilemma would be the question... What is the torque of the 
> original 1.5 Litre Sports engine compared to the torque of the 1275 A 
> Series engine?   If the torque is close t,he swap should work but if 
> not, this could make the difference between the car moving down the 
> road and not, OR not being able to make it up any appreciable hill.
>
> Just my .02 cents.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
> Carlsbad, CA
> '55 BN1, '60 AN5 :{)

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 13:13:42 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:13:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Mike Rambour <lists at dinospider.com> wrote:
So I am putting in a more powerful motor into a 900lb. heavier car,
but I think it would still move the car, right ?  And no, I am not
thinking of a different motor like a 1,500cc MG, I am thinking 1275
because I have one.
-------------------------------------------------------
The original 6 cylinder obviously builds a lot of torque in lieu of
HP. A stock 1275 has decent torque and should propel the car. If it
does not do it well enough, maybe you can swap the rear gears for a
lower ratio without much cost??? Morris Minor 5:38, etc.

The bottom line is:
You can put it on the street with what you have, you will not butcher
it, and, quite possibly by driving it run into someone who has
something similar and make a new friend. I have met many folks because
of what I was driving... I have also received notes under the wiper
about parts and cars for sale.

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Sep 30 13:52:49 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:52:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <2135156125.202210.1317412369274.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

What are the ft/lbs spec'd for each motor??
the vehicle weight divided by the ft/pounds of each engine will indicate their respective merits.
--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
'65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>  My concern is the weigh difference, will the 1275 move the car, I think yes since the car was
> originally powered by a larger but much weaker motor.

From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Sep 30 13:59:36 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:59:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] a bit of test and question about the list
In-Reply-To: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <ED5EAB4B-2344-4616-953C-3A67BF8B1E67@mac.com>

Yes there is a limit. I have no idea what it is but I have had to, and seen others, split a long post into 2 or more emails to get through.

Larry

On Sep 30, 2011, at 13:01 PM, Mike Rambour wrote:

> Is there a length limit on postings to this list ?
> 
> I wrote up a lengthy e-mail this morning and sent it off and have not seen it yet, but other posts are coming so I know its working.
> 
> So this is a test to see if I get this from the list and a question about lengths of e-mails to the list.
> 
>    mike
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From lists at dinospider.com  Fri Sep 30 14:02:10 2011
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:02:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <2135156125.202210.1317412369274.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <2135156125.202210.1317412369274.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4E862042.8060606@dinospider.com>

  Funny man... I don't think they knew what those meant in 1934, (ok I 
am sure those types of specs were known then but the manual says to 
tighten the head down, not even torque specs)  no way anyone has that 
information, but I do have BHP at various RPM's in the shop manual, 
lucky to have that much information.  I will post that when I get home.

     mike

  On 09/30/2011 12:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> What are the ft/lbs spec'd for each motor??
> the vehicle weight divided by the ft/pounds of each engine will indicate their respective merits.
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>   Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :|
> '65 Sprite - running with a bad valve guide :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>    
>>   My concern is the weigh difference, will the 1275 move the car, I think yes since the car was
>> originally powered by a larger but much weaker motor.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 30 14:04:08 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:04:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] a bit of test and question about the list
In-Reply-To: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85F5FA.5020502@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <201109301304658.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

For some reason, this list is taking at least 2 hours to post... and 
it's annoying,,,,
         Peter C
====
At 12:01 PM 9/30/2011, Mike Rambour wrote:
>  Is there a length limit on postings to this list ?
>
>  I wrote up a lengthy e-mail this morning and sent it off and have 
> not seen it yet, but other posts are coming so I know its working.
>
>  So this is a test to see if I get this from the list and a 
> question about lengths of e-mails to the list.
>
>     mike

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 30 14:45:09 2011
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:45:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <1C95D7B38E004E2791230A29D5C3CDCF@JimMainHP>

Just a stupid question; Can't the singer engine be sleeved? I'm sure a 
decent engine shop could accomplish it without the expense of shipping to 
UK?
Jim f

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Rambour
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:51 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic

     Any long time person on this list knows I don't have a Spridget but
I am building a 1934 Singer Le Mans and putting in a 1098 motor into it,
the woodwork on the body is taking longer that I anticipated but its
progressing nicely.  There were 300+ of these cars built and my original
motor had a hole in the side of the block big enough for a crankshaft to
come through, because well, it did.  I could not find a original motor
and decided to put the 1098 in since I need to make no mods to the
frame, the original Singer motor was 972cc and the Spridget motor is a
perfect fit. I now have a original good block, I just need to have a
crank made somewhere.

   I also own a much bigger 1934 1.5 Litre Sports, this car has a
cracked but repairable 6 cylinder motor, it also has some "seeping" in
the water jackets implying very thin water jackets due to rust/corrosion
and that may be a issue when I rebuild it.   The big issue with this car
is it is very rare, the estimates are that only 11 were built and only 7
known cars remain so I don't want to butcher it.   The estimate I have
for rebuilding this motor along with crack repair and porcelainizing the
water jackets, etc. are 5,000 to 7,000 UK Pounds ($7,500 to $11,000) and
that does not include crating and shipping to the UK, etc, so for the
motor alone I need to budget $10,000 and it likely will be more.   I
just don't have that kind of cash hanging around...

  Last night  my wife and I were talking about it and she asked what the
other motor in the garage was and said why don't you put that in the car
?  Now I will NOT destroy what likely is the most original 1.5 left in
the world and I will NOT destroy a car that rare with a the wrong motor,
but she has a point.   I have a running (barely, needs a rebuild) 1275
and 3 ribcase gearboxes, 2 should be ok, so for little money and time I
could swap motors while I save up the money for a proper rebuild of the
original motor.  I can do the swap without having to drill holes, no
cutting of the Singer frame, no "permanent" mods of the Singer chassis.

  Now, the original Singer motor is 6 cylinders, 1,497CC's and put out a
peak of 46BHP, the 1275CC puts out a peak of 62BHP or 75BHP depending on
which web site I look at, so its a smaller motor with more power.

  The Singer weights 1 ton, 2 hundreweight, 0 quarters, 14lbs or in
terms most of us understand 2,478lbs.  The Spridget weighs 1,575lbs.

  So I am putting in a more powerful motor into a 900lb. heavier car,
but I think it would still move the car, right ?

  The Spridget motor is of course much lighter than the 6cylinder so
some weight will come off the car, but i am not sure how much.

   I am not trying to build a hot rod here, the car never was a hot rod
to begin with, just trying to get the car on the road while I save up
money and get the proper motor rebuilt.  My concern is the weight
difference, will the 1275 move the car, I think yes since the car was
originally powered by a larger but much weaker motor.

  And no, I am not thinking of a different motor like a 1,500cc MG, I am
thinking 1275 because I have one.

   Mike
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From lists at dinospider.com  Fri Sep 30 16:00:41 2011
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:00:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <1C95D7B38E004E2791230A29D5C3CDCF@JimMainHP>
References: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
	<1C95D7B38E004E2791230A29D5C3CDCF@JimMainHP>
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On 9/30/2011 1:45 PM, Jim F wrote:
> Just a stupid question; Can't the singer engine be sleeved? I'm sure a 
> decent engine shop could accomplish it without the expense of shipping 
> to UK?
> Jim f

  Its not a sleeving problem, I can get pistons/rings for it in Los 
Angeles, there is a crack the length of the block about 1.5" down from 
the top of the block, that leaks water, this comes from over tightening 
of the head bolts and not enough metal in that area to take the stress, 
a  common crack.   Because of the very high chromium content in the 
Singer block it can NOT be welded, the result will be a even more 
brittle block.   That has to be metal stitched to be repaired...can do 
that in the U.S.

  The next issue is that due to 80 years of corrosion the cooling jacket 
walls are very thin and "seeping" water into the oil, you can't see a 
crack but its there between #2 and #3 cylinders and of course the entire 
cooling system has badly corroded over the 80 years.  In the UK they fix 
that by injecting porcelain under high pressure and bake it, the end 
result is a fully sealed cooling system and also a cooler running 
motor.  The new method is a epoxy no longer porcelain.  Either method 
requires fairly sophisticated equipment and experience.  I have not 
found a shop that does it in the U.S.   When a old motor in the U.S. 
goes bad you put a new V8 because that is what was original anyway and 
they are plenty.   I am not saying there is no shop in the U.S. that can 
do it, just that I have not found one and they are dime-a-dozen in the 
UK along with one shop that has experience with this exact motor as they 
own one that they race.

On 9/30/2011 1:48 PM, Bob Walker wrote:
> What is the tire size on the car you wish to put the 1275 into? Also, what is the rear end gear ratio? My guess is you have pretty tall and skinny tires with maybe something like a 4/1 rear gear ratio. That would demand a much lower gear ratio to make the car run........5/22's or something like that. Another option, maybe even better is to change to a different camshaft that makes all power at real low revs.
> Bob Walker
  See that is why I asked, not thought of tires and they would make a 
difference.  4,75 x 19 are the tires.

  As to torque/power the ONLY spec I have is    12.5BHP @ 1,000RPM, 
26.0BHP @ 2,000RPM, 38.0BHP @ 3,000RPM and peak BHP is 46.0 but does not 
state RPM.  There are no lbs.ft. spec anywhere in the factory shop manual.

  Original gearing is  Top 5.66:1  Third 7.18:1  Second 11.56:1  First 
21.05:1   I can tell you that when driving the car unless you want to 
climb a telephone pole you always start in Second.   I do NOT have rear 
axle gearing but the rear axle track is 4'4" and that is visually close 
(not measured yet)  to a Spridget so maybe I could/should swap rears also.

  I have never driven my car but I did drive one of the remaining 7 when 
it was here in the U.S. for a month from the UK.  I am going to do some 
measuring this afternoon and see if its as easy as I think it will be to 
do this.  Walked by Mo$$ at lunch time to see what they have for the 
1275 if I am going to rebuild it, I think just rings/bearings type of 
rebuild.

  yeah, yeah, I have been told I should sell it to someone who can 
afford to fix it correctly...NO its MY CAR damm it....

     mike

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 16:16:13 2011
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:16:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Screws on Column Surround/Taking it apart
Message-ID: <1317420973.16725.YahooMailNeo@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Quick answer needed. Finally getting around to fixing turn signals that
suddenly stopped working after I had GS and 3 friends 8,9,10, & 11 y.o boys
playing drive Bugsy in the garage. Lots of enthusiatic horn blowing, head
light flashing and tugging and pulling on turn signals and washer stalk. The
casualty of this is turn signals no longer work and the switch cluster is now
loose on the dash. 
 
Emergency flashers work just fine but when I flip on a
turn signal I can hear a short 1/2 a click out of the TS Flasher and then
nothing. This is on a '68 which only has a single flasher unit. Thinking since
switch assembly seems loose perhaps I've lost my ground to the column if
indeed one is there. Horn still works and so do wipers so that may be a red
herring.
 
Quick question - Screw types on column surround Phillips or
Standard. There are 4 bolts I know but can you access them without unbolting
the column. Last time I had it apart was > 10 years ago and I can no longer
remember if I needed to drop the column down to get at those screws or not. My
eyes are betraying me 10 years later and I just can't see in there any more.
Who can help? 
 
BTW it was a hoot watching these kids pretend to be driving.I
LMAO and even though I think these guys caused my problem I 'd have them back
to see them enjoy Bugsy.

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 16:53:53 2011
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:53:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Column Surround
Message-ID: <1317423233.42519.YahooMailNeo@web160310.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

OK Standard Slotted Screws in there nbut what special tool is needed to get out those back screws. Looks like the a screwdriver on the ned of a flex shaft is needed to remove without dropping the column.

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 30 17:41:18 2011
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:41:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol
In-Reply-To: <20110929020210.1C23B1878FF@autox.team.net>
References: <20110929020210.1C23B1878FF@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <COL117-W64E49F5A479ED70D67A9E2C2F70@phx.gbl>

MTBE, or methyl tertiary butyl ether, formerly used to oxygenate gasoline is
contaminates drinking water if it leaks or spills into the ground or water.

So if everyone would rather have poisoned drinking water than changing
out some parts on there cars......feel free to continue to bash Ethanol.

Oh and continue to push for more Hydrofracking for natural gas!
;-)

There are no ethanol free stations in the NY metro area.

Race gas is available at $10 a gallon, but sure gets expensive.

The links to the gas additives don't really convince me,
such as " breaks down the water to sub-micron level allowing it to be
safely burned away during normal engine operation."
Really?? how??
Startron is 95% Naptha, as are many other treatments.

An interesting link about fuel additives:
They are anti-ethanol but there is some good information there.

http://www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html


I am not necessarily pro ethanol, but show me a better alternative to
oxygenate

and raise the octane of gasoline to usable levels at a cost that is
tolerable.


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


>
> From: an5.sprite at gmail.com

>
> All the first options are correct. This has nothing to do with the
president.
This has to do with a strong corn lobby and elected senators and congressmen
that take the corn lobby money.
>
>
> ------Original Message------
>
>
> There are some options, but they're not easy or cheap.  Race gas is one.
> $10-12 a gallon and not easy to find.  Some airports sell ethanol free auto
> gas for use in Rotax ultralight engines.  $5-6 a gallon and you have to
pump
> it into a can.
>
> The best option might be to elect a new president.
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 30 17:47:52 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:47:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] lets talk 1275's AND off-topic
In-Reply-To: <4E863C09.7020104@dinospider.com>
References: <4E85E59B.5030907@dinospider.com>
	<1C95D7B38E004E2791230A29D5C3CDCF@JimMainHP>
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Message-ID: <4E865528.1030105@justbrits.com>

<< Is there a length limit on postings to this list ? >>

IIRC Mike, 3000 kb.

Perhaps someone would care to amble thru the BEGINNING/
EARLY Archives and get the actual quote !?!?!?

I   *do*   recall Mark TELLING (at least the ones I am on) ALL
Lists exactly what it is when the change from Majordomo
software to [the FAR better] MailMan Program.

Ed
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    Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED !

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 17:58:24 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:58:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol from Oak Ridge's perspective.
In-Reply-To: <CAAAA44A.1BF82%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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Here's some good scientific data on ethanol blends and the effects on
rubbers, sealants and metals.  It's very current.

http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub27766.pdf

I haven't read all of it.  But after skimming through it I've come to the
conclusion that I am not worried until they start to go over 15% ethanol
blending. 

E10 does not appear to be much worse than high aromatic, winter blended,
regular gasoline with respect to seal swelling and rubber shrinkage.

According to this document, blending beyond 10% could happen real soon:

"However, the amount of ethanol that may be blended and sold as an additive
to gasoline is restricted to 10% by volume (E10) by the EPA. 7 A small
amount is sold as E85 (gasoline containing 85% by volume of ethanol) for use
in flex fuel vehicles (FFVs), but most (approximately 90% of dispenser
product) is sold as E10. In 2012, the RFS will require over 15 billion
gallons of renewable fuel, but the renewable fuel mandate will continue to
increase. Assuming that most of the RFS is met using ethanol, gasoline
blenders are likely to hit a limit in the next few years, since 10% ethanol
cannot likely exceed 14 billion gallons per year. This "blend-wall" is the
maximum possible volume of ethanol that can be achieve with E10. Because of
this limitation, there is interest in increasing the allowable concentration
of ethanol in gasoline to meet the RFS 2022 mandate to "intermediate-level"
blends, ranging from 15 to 50% ethanol by volume."

So in a few years we might have something to worry about. Rubber fuel line
to handle the higher blends won't be a problem.  I'm more worried about
those seals on the little plastic hoses that go from the floats to the main
jets on the SU's.  I think the mixture enrichment can be accommodated by the
main jet adjustment on the SU's to handle the higher ethanol blends.  Folks
with Webbers will have some work to do.  

On the up side it's nice to know that the octane rating of the fuel will go
up.  So when the time comes you might want to consider getting the head
milled to raise the CR.  We may witness the disappearance of the regular and
mid octane grades at the pump once they start blending beyond 50%

Oh yeah, maybe get rid of the rubber tipped float needles in favor of metal
ball Gross jets (If they are still available?)

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 30 18:00:03 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:00:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Screws on Column Surround/Taking it apart
In-Reply-To: <1317420973.16725.YahooMailNeo@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1317420973.16725.YahooMailNeo@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E865803.4070200@justbrits.com>

<< Screw types on column surround Phillips or Standard. >>

NEITHER  *IF* correct, Jim.

<G> !!!

So what are they ??  <VBEG> !?!

Ed

PS:  Hint;  flashlight WILL help with 'finding' the answer ! ! !
PPS:  Plz report back with findings.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep 30 18:58:43 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:58:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960
Message-ID: <2C1BF9F565564C92B8E86596FFEB6B08@spider>

Replaced the left front wheel cylinders (and rubber brake line) on the 1960
BE.

The shoe springs do not appear to be holding the brake shoes snug against
the wheel cylinders. Springs are not stretched and the lower shoe is just
hanging there. If I adjust the brakes so there is a little tension holding
the shoes in place, then the drum won't go on easily. 

And the arc of the brake material on the two shoes does not line up with the
curvature of the backing plate; the leading edges of the brake material is
really leading. Previous owner?

For reference, the original VW Bug, had brake springs like this but those
springs really snugged the shoes into place, and the brake shoe material
lined up with the curvature of the backing plate.  Ideas??   .bill in
corvallis 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 19:54:45 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:54:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-RjdbO1wRp2L6JwX3D7wDKEf+F27hFxwVGgNOoPcS_25j-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
	<1317353203.46507.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<52898924D0994A97A4C8E203F61BE545@Home>
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He said he ran off with a fairy, you do the math.........

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> ?
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Santa Claus isn't real?
> >>
> >
> > Of course he's real, silly.  He just ran off with the Tooth Fairy, and no
> > one has seen him in a long time.
> >
> >
> Are you saying that Santa is gay?
> Hal
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 21:26:32 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:26:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts)
In-Reply-To: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com>
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Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-yVpOMq9Jd45mpOs2u=z9Gm+0MAQ7PmW2+m4XgWS_OYA@mail.gmail.com>

Ask any outboard motor mechanic.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 22:34:22 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:34:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Screws on Column Surround/Taking it apart
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Dunno if it helps, but my 68 Midget has Phillips heads in the surround. I
undid
the bolts that hold the column and it dropped down just far enough to be
able to reach
all the surround screws.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:16 PM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Quick answer needed. Finally getting around to fixing turn signals that
> suddenly stopped working after I had GS and 3 friends 8,9,10, & 11 y.o boys
> playing drive Bugsy in the garage. Lots of enthusiatic horn blowing, head
> light flashing and tugging and pulling on turn signals and washer stalk.
> The
> casualty of this is turn signals no longer work and the switch cluster is
> now
> loose on the dash.
>
> Emergency flashers work just fine but when I flip on a
> turn signal I can hear a short 1/2 a click out of the TS Flasher and then
> nothing. This is on a '68 which only has a single flasher unit. Thinking
> since
> switch assembly seems loose perhaps I've lost my ground to the column if
> indeed one is there. Horn still works and so do wipers so that may be a red
> herring.
>
> Quick question - Screw types on column surround Phillips or
> Standard. There are 4 bolts I know but can you access them without
> unbolting
> the column. Last time I had it apart was > 10 years ago and I can no longer
> remember if I needed to drop the column down to get at those screws or not.
> My
> eyes are betraying me 10 years later and I just can't see in there any
> more.
> Who can help?
>
> BTW it was a hoot watching these kids pretend to be driving.I
> LMAO and even though I think these guys caused my problem I 'd have them
> back
> to see them enjoy Bugsy.
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From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Fri Sep 30 23:17:15 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 00:17:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] datsun 5 speed transmission
Message-ID: <C9C5601F-CF46-458C-90DE-5E9AEDBA8CB3@comcast.net>

   Anyone have a spare datsun 5 speed transmission? 210?

From two00mph at aol.com  Thu Sep 29 08:15:59 2011
From: two00mph at aol.com (Michael Joy)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:15:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ethanol-free fuel
Message-ID: <BCA943B2-0932-4F84-9D5B-DCFD142C45CD@aol.com>

There are many downsides to E10 and E15.

Its hygroscopic as previously noted, absorbing water, which will NOT settle
out to the bottom of the tank as water will if found in non-ethanol fuel.

It has a very short shelf life... we are seeing significant degradation in as
little as 90 days of in-tank storage.

In breaking down, it becomes acidic, attacking some plastics, metals and
rubber.

The ethanol industry is heaving promoting the use of E15 in NASCAR.  However,
the fuel supplier had to completely change their transport and storage systems
(no underground tanks), drain all fuel from cars after each race, etc. to
insure it would work reliably.

Here are some alternatives...

Sunoco Racing Fuel... available in a variety of octanes... 100-114, leaded and
unleaded.  Ethanol-free fuel has a storage life of 2 years plus with no
breakdown.  $8/per gallon and up.  1-800-racegas

Av Gas...  similar shelf life, additive package maximized for no freeze-up at
altitude.  100LL (low lead) avail at most FBO's.

Boat gas... many marinas are authorized to sell ethanol-free gas... as long as
its for off-road use. Legally they cant pump it straight into your car, so
bring your cans.  Expect to pay 25-50% more than regular pump price.

There are websites that list ethanol-free gas locations.  Happy hunting.