From pfeilmat at gmail.com Sat Oct 1 00:23:23 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:23:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Screws on Column Surround/Taking it apart In-Reply-To: References: <1317420973.16725.YahooMailNeo@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Are you sure it is Phillips or is it Pozi Drive? Matt P On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Dunno if it helps, but my 68 Midget has Phillips heads in the surround. I > undid > the bolts that hold the column and it dropped down just far enough to be > able to reach > all the surround screws. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:16 PM, James Gruber wrote: > >> Quick answer needed. Finally getting around to fixing turn signals that >> suddenly stopped working after I had GS and 3 friends 8,9,10, & 11 y.o boys >> playing drive Bugsy in the garage. Lots of enthusiatic horn blowing, head >> light flashing and tugging and pulling on turn signals and washer stalk. >> The >> casualty of this is turn signals no longer work and the switch cluster is >> now >> loose on the dash. >> >> Emergency flashers work just fine but when I flip on a >> turn signal I can hear a short 1/2 a click out of the TS Flasher and then >> nothing. This is on a '68 which only has a single flasher unit. Thinking >> since >> switch assembly seems loose perhaps I've lost my ground to the column if >> indeed one is there. Horn still works and so do wipers so that may be a red >> herring. >> >> Quick question - Screw types on column surround Phillips or >> Standard. There are 4 bolts I know but can you access them without >> unbolting >> the column. Last time I had it apart was > 10 years ago and I can no longer >> remember if I needed to drop the column down to get at those screws or not. >> My >> eyes are betraying me 10 years later and I just can't see in there any >> more. >> Who can help? >> >> BTW it was a hoot watching these kids pretend to be driving.I >> LMAO and even though I think these guys caused my problem I 'd have them >> back >> to see them enjoy Bugsy. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Sprite-Midget Club USA > High Plains Youth Hockey > Dodge City Trail of Fame > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology > Yup. I stay plenty busy!! > bmwwxman at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From kmappley at gmail.com Sat Oct 1 06:34:07 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 07:34:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re 1275 AND off topic. Message-ID: Mike I personally think there would be no problem since the car is geared very low to begin with. The characteristics of the car will, of course, be totally different. I've swapped big engines for little before and the only concern I would have is with clutch longevity. If you want to compare torque figures and are still capable of doing math (I'm not!) here is the formula for a brake dynamometer. H.P.= 2pi(torque in ft lbs)( RPM)/ 33000 I don't trust my memory on how to modify the formula but I'm sure you can get the comparable torque figures out of that and figures for the 1275 should be easy to find. The main difference I think you will see is torque occurring at very different RPM's. Kurt. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Oct 1 06:38:10 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:38:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 In-Reply-To: <2C1BF9F565564C92B8E86596FFEB6B08@spider> References: <2C1BF9F565564C92B8E86596FFEB6B08@spider> Message-ID: Bill, Have you tried adjusting the brakes after you put the drum in place? That may let them seat properly to the arch. Steve On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:58 PM, wrote: > Replaced the left front wheel cylinders (and rubber brake line) on the 1960 > BE. > > The shoe springs do not appear to be holding the brake shoes snug against > the wheel cylinders. Springs are not stretched and the lower shoe is just > hanging there. If I adjust the brakes so there is a little tension holding > the shoes in place, then the drum won't go on easily. > > And the arc of the brake material on the two shoes does not line up with > the > curvature of the backing plate; the leading edges of the brake material is > really leading. Previous owner? > > For reference, the original VW Bug, had brake springs like this but those > springs really snugged the shoes into place, and the brake shoe material > lined up with the curvature of the backing plate. Ideas?? .bill in > corvallis > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From lmacy at mac.com Sat Oct 1 07:09:13 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:09:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen Message-ID: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> Well after not having a Midget for nearly 3 years, I am back on the road and LEGAL. I just passed my Bucks Co, PA Inspection with flying colors. But this time, it's blue instead of green. Many thanks to Frank for getting this started. And to Kevin for letting me use his garage after Frank passed, and to all those that ventured out to Tom's River and to Tuscarora over the summer for their assistance. It is still a bit of a work in progress as it needs a buffing and some badges. All I can say is YIPPEE and now to get some miles on it. WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From lmacy at mac.com Sat Oct 1 07:20:54 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:20:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Column Surround In-Reply-To: <1317423233.42519.YahooMailNeo@web160310.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1317423233.42519.YahooMailNeo@web160310.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7274E749-B228-42FD-943C-5A5886E422D0@mac.com> Jim, Just drop the column. It is only 4 bolts and gives all the clearance you need. I do not think you can get the shroud off, even if you get the screws out. Larry On Sep 30, 2011, at 6:53 PM, James Gruber wrote: > OK Standard Slotted Screws in there nbut what special tool is needed to get out those back screws. Looks like the a screwdriver on the ned of a flex shaft is needed to remove without dropping the column. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From shop at justbrits.com Sat Oct 1 09:02:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:02:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> References: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> Message-ID: <4E872B83.3090304@justbrits.com> << All I can say is YIPPEE and now to get some miles on it. >> LOOK OUT Colorado !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anon ! ! PS: & CONGRATS, Larry ! ! ! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Oct 1 09:11:13 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:11:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Screws on Column Surround/Taking it apart In-Reply-To: References: <1317420973.16725.YahooMailNeo@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Posi - Tive. ;-) In my 67 years I've got to where I can identify a Phillips head screw just by looking closely at it.... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Matt P wrote: > Are you sure it is Phillips or is it Pozi Drive? > > > Matt P > On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > Dunno if it helps, but my 68 Midget has Phillips heads in the surround. I > > undid > > the bolts that hold the column and it dropped down just far enough to be > > able to reach > > all the surround screws. > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:16 PM, James Gruber > wrote: > > > >> Quick answer needed. Finally getting around to fixing turn signals that > >> suddenly stopped working after I had GS and 3 friends 8,9,10, & 11 y.o > boys > >> playing drive Bugsy in the garage. Lots of enthusiatic horn blowing, > head > >> light flashing and tugging and pulling on turn signals and washer stalk. > >> The > >> casualty of this is turn signals no longer work and the switch cluster > is > >> now > >> loose on the dash. > >> > >> Emergency flashers work just fine but when I flip on a > >> turn signal I can hear a short 1/2 a click out of the TS Flasher and > then > >> nothing. This is on a '68 which only has a single flasher unit. Thinking > >> since > >> switch assembly seems loose perhaps I've lost my ground to the column if > >> indeed one is there. Horn still works and so do wipers so that may be a > red > >> herring. > >> > >> Quick question - Screw types on column surround Phillips or > >> Standard. There are 4 bolts I know but can you access them without > >> unbolting > >> the column. Last time I had it apart was > 10 years ago and I can no > longer > >> remember if I needed to drop the column down to get at those screws or > not. > >> My > >> eyes are betraying me 10 years later and I just can't see in there any > >> more. > >> Who can help? > >> > >> BTW it was a hoot watching these kids pretend to be driving.I > >> LMAO and even though I think these guys caused my problem I 'd have them > >> back > >> to see them enjoy Bugsy. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Cheers!! > > Jim Johnson > > Sprite-Midget Club USA > > High Plains Youth Hockey > > Dodge City Trail of Fame > > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology > > Yup. I stay plenty busy!! > > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Sat Oct 1 09:17:03 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 08:17:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> References: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> Message-ID: Hooray Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > Well after not having a Midget for nearly 3 years, I am back on the road and LEGAL. I just passed my Bucks Co, PA Inspection with flying colors. But this time, it's blue instead of green. > > Many thanks to Frank for getting this started. And to Kevin for letting me use his garage after Frank passed, and to all those that ventured out to Tom's River and to Tuscarora over the summer for their assistance. > > It is still a bit of a work in progress as it needs a buffing and some badges. > > All I can say is YIPPEE and now to get some miles on it. > > WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO > > Larry > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Oct 1 10:06:09 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 09:06:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Column Surround In-Reply-To: <7274E749-B228-42FD-943C-5A5886E422D0@mac.com> References: <1317423233.42519.YahooMailNeo@web160310.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7274E749-B228-42FD-943C-5A5886E422D0@mac.com> Message-ID: <9D132F02350643C2BA6D4089EF7E31B0@spider> Yes, you do have to drop the column to get the shroud off. ...bill in corvallis ==================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Macy Larry Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:21 AM To: James Gruber Cc: Spridgets Digest Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Column Surround Jim, Just drop the column. It is only 4 bolts and gives all the clearance you need. I do not think you can get the shroud off, even if you get the screws out. Larry On Sep 30, 2011, at 6:53 PM, James Gruber wrote: > OK Standard Slotted Screws in there but what special tool is needed to get out those back screws. Looks like the a screwdriver on the ned of a flex shaft is needed to remove without dropping the column. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sat Oct 1 11:14:56 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:14:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun transmissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D004D1D-F3A8-41B3-822D-4FDB61DA2730@gerardsgarage.com> HI Phil, Did you get yours installed yet? Gerard On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:48 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:01:34 -0400 > From: Phil Nase > To: Jess Power > Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun transmissions > Message-ID: <601FA6C5-87F7-48E0-A30B-370BEECB3295 at verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Jess, if Gerard has the trans he can modify the bell housing to > avoid any > mods to the car. Otherwise you will need to widen the area under > the heater > plenum just a bit. The ones I've seen have just crushed the bottom > of the > plenum to allow it to fit. > > Gerard cuts and patches the bell housing so it slides right in. > > I think he has the trans numbers on his site. Call him if your lucky > he may > have some on hand. > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From lmacy at mac.com Sat Oct 1 13:06:11 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:06:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> References: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> Message-ID: <4450D157-B753-4603-B21B-A0876B9AF461@mac.com> My driving time in the car since on the road goes something like this. 100 miles home from Kevin's 75 miles to New Hope and back (it's 20 miles away ;-) 8 miles to and from the inspection station. After that, it was totally mundane. A quick trip to Whole Foods, the Wine & Spirits shop and home. Some how that 12 miles to Whole Foods took nearly 2 hours. I think I got lost ;-) Larry On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > Well after not having a Midget for nearly 3 years, I am back on the road and LEGAL. I just passed my Bucks Co, PA Inspection with flying colors. But this time, it's blue instead of green. > > Many thanks to Frank for getting this started. And to Kevin for letting me use his garage after Frank passed, and to all those that ventured out to Tom's River and to Tuscarora over the summer for their assistance. > > It is still a bit of a work in progress as it needs a buffing and some badges. > > All I can say is YIPPEE and now to get some miles on it. > > WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO > > Larry > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Secretary > Philadelphia MG Club > > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Oct 1 13:29:16 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 12:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> Message-ID: <1317497356.44692.YahooMailClassic@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Now to have some driving fun before the last of the good weather! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Sat, 10/1/11, Macy Larry wrote: From: Macy Larry Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen To: "Spridgets net" Date: Saturday, October 1, 2011, 1:09 PM Well after not having a Midget for nearly 3 years, I am back on the road and LEGAL. I just passed my Bucks Co, PA Inspection with flying colors. But this time, it's blue instead of green. Many thanks to Frank for getting this started. And to Kevin for letting me use his garage after Frank passed, and to all those that ventured out to Tom's River and to Tuscarora over the summer for their assistance. It is still a bit of a work in progress as it needs a buffing and some badges. All I can say is YIPPEE and now to get some miles on it. WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From shop at justbrits.com Sat Oct 1 15:21:50 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:21:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <4450D157-B753-4603-B21B-A0876B9AF461@mac.com> References: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> <4450D157-B753-4603-B21B-A0876B9AF461@mac.com> Message-ID: <4E87846E.3020208@justbrits.com> << I think I got lost. >> Damned RAIN ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Really UN-real in your 'area' ! ! Anon From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Oct 1 15:47:50 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 17:47:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> References: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> Message-ID: <5DA7A8108E0846659CA92893D3198FCB@blackbox2> Buff & Badge it. Then head to Peddler's Village next weekend.... Lahaska, PA 18931, PA. - Brits at the Village British Car & Bike show Peddler's Village - Lahaska,PA. The Philadelphia MG Club, Inc. is presenting our Fifteenth Annual All British Car & Bike Show. Last year we started what will be new feature for the Brits Car & Bike show. A "Featured Marque" and this year the MG MIDGET all models all years. "Brits at The Village" is a Popular Vote Awards Show. Classes are determined by pre-registration. Dash plaques to the first 150 cars/bikes. A special award to the Club that have the most pre-registered, so make this one of your Club Events in October. Pre-registration $15.00 by Sept 26th. $20.00 reg. fee day of show. For more information call Bill Hixson 215.932.0295 or Steve Harding 610.275.7960. For Registration Form go to www.phillyMGclub.com to download "Brits at The Village" registration form, or e-mail Bill Hixson MGBV6T5 at phillyMGclub.com request Brit's registration form. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Macy Larry Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 9:09 AM To: Spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen Well after not having a Midget for nearly 3 years, I am back on the road and LEGAL. From lmacy at mac.com Sat Oct 1 15:59:10 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:59:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <4450D157-B753-4603-B21B-A0876B9AF461@mac.com> References: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> <4450D157-B753-4603-B21B-A0876B9AF461@mac.com> Message-ID: <6C5EDF7B-1000-483A-BEFD-1352DC38B722@mac.com> Dean, Not sure that will get done before Sat, but: I will be there early. I have to set up the field and then park all the cars coming in. This is the Philly MG Club show, and I am the Secretary for the club. And the official Car Parker ;-) But since I get to be there early I always get the best spot. This year we are featuring the Midget, after all, it's the 50th!! Larry On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Macy Larry wrote: > My driving time in the car since on the road goes something like this. > > 100 miles home from Kevin's > 75 miles to New Hope and back (it's 20 miles away ;-) > 8 miles to and from the inspection station. > After that, it was totally mundane. A quick trip to Whole Foods, the Wine & Spirits shop and home. Some how that 12 miles to Whole Foods took nearly 2 hours. I think I got lost ;-) > > Larry > > On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > >> Well after not having a Midget for nearly 3 years, I am back on the road and LEGAL. I just passed my Bucks Co, PA Inspection with flying colors. But this time, it's blue instead of green. >> >> Many thanks to Frank for getting this started. And to Kevin for letting me use his garage after Frank passed, and to all those that ventured out to Tom's River and to Tuscarora over the summer for their assistance. >> >> It is still a bit of a work in progress as it needs a buffing and some badges. >> >> All I can say is YIPPEE and now to get some miles on it. >> >> WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO >> >> Larry >> -- >> >> Larry Macy >> 78 Midget >> >> Keep your top down and your chin up. >> >> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >> lmacy at phillymgclub.com >> Secretary >> Philadelphia MG Club >> >> >> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 From lmacy at mac.com Sat Oct 1 16:01:33 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 18:01:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Phoenix has risen In-Reply-To: <4450D157-B753-4603-B21B-A0876B9AF461@mac.com> References: <1C4EEA4A-6757-4F74-938C-3FE765DC6157@mac.com> <4450D157-B753-4603-B21B-A0876B9AF461@mac.com> Message-ID: BTW, THanks for the whole page advert!! On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Macy Larry wrote: > My driving time in the car since on the road goes something like this. > > 100 miles home from Kevin's > 75 miles to New Hope and back (it's 20 miles away ;-) > 8 miles to and from the inspection station. > After that, it was totally mundane. A quick trip to Whole Foods, the Wine & Spirits shop and home. Some how that 12 miles to Whole Foods took nearly 2 hours. I think I got lost ;-) > > Larry > > On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > >> Well after not having a Midget for nearly 3 years, I am back on the road and LEGAL. I just passed my Bucks Co, PA Inspection with flying colors. But this time, it's blue instead of green. >> >> Many thanks to Frank for getting this started. And to Kevin for letting me use his garage after Frank passed, and to all those that ventured out to Tom's River and to Tuscarora over the summer for their assistance. >> >> It is still a bit of a work in progress as it needs a buffing and some badges. >> >> All I can say is YIPPEE and now to get some miles on it. >> >> WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO >> >> Larry >> -- >> >> Larry Macy >> 78 Midget >> >> Keep your top down and your chin up. >> >> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >> lmacy at phillymgclub.com >> Secretary >> Philadelphia MG Club >> >> >> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it" --- Groucho Marx From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Oct 1 17:49:36 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 16:49:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 In-Reply-To: References: <2C1BF9F565564C92B8E86596FFEB6B08@spider> Message-ID: <1E33D56BD1AC43ACAE8EDD3AC7670AC2@spider> Well, that was it. Just let it sit there over night and it seemed better. Also, took the drum off of the black BE and looked at its brakes. The brake shoe return springs are happier on the inside of the shoes. All is well .on the left side. Now, about the right side. Will post more if needed. .bill in corvallis _____ From: bealeguter at gmail.com [mailto:bealeguter at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Steven Guterman Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:38 AM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 Bill, Have you tried adjusting the brakes after you put the drum in place? That may let them seat properly to the arch. Steve ============================================================================ === On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:58 PM, wrote: Replaced the left front wheel cylinders (and rubber brake line) on the 1960 BE. The shoe springs do not appear to be holding the brake shoes snug against the wheel cylinders. Springs are not stretched and the lower shoe is just hanging there. If I adjust the brakes so there is a little tension holding the shoes in place, then the drum won't go on easily. And the arc of the brake material on the two shoes does not line up with the curvature of the backing plate; the leading edges of the brake material is really leading. Previous owner? For reference, the original VW Bug, had brake springs like this but those springs really snugged the shoes into place, and the brake shoe material lined up with the curvature of the backing plate. Ideas?? .bill in corvallis Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From grday at btinternet.com Sun Oct 2 00:23:34 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:23:34 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 References: <2C1BF9F565564C92B8E86596FFEB6B08@spider> <1E33D56BD1AC43ACAE8EDD3AC7670AC2@spider> Message-ID: <7D3C324E932F44A89B3338FE7DCDE184@user8634b3d69b> Hi Bill, You may find the springs have stretched, especially if the have been fitted incorrectly at some stage. If they were fitted on the outside of the shoe you'll find the shoes are pulled out and you get abnormal wear on the inner side of both the shoe and drum. It may well be worth checking the braking area on the drum to see if this is worn at an angle. If so, it is new drums. Also check against the manual to see if the correct mounting holes have been used for the springs. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 > Well, that was it. Just let it sit there over night and it seemed better. > Also, took the drum off of the black BE and looked at its brakes. The > brake > shoe return springs are happier on the inside of the shoes. All is well > .on > the left side. Now, about the right side. Will post more if needed. .bill > in > corvallis > > > > _____ > > From: bealeguter at gmail.com [mailto:bealeguter at gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Steven > Guterman > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:38 AM > To: corvallis at peoplepc.com > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 > > > > Bill, > > Have you tried adjusting the brakes after you put the drum in place? That > may let them seat properly to the arch. > > Steve > > ============================================================================ > === > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:58 PM, wrote: > > Replaced the left front wheel cylinders (and rubber brake line) on the > 1960 > BE. > > The shoe springs do not appear to be holding the brake shoes snug against > the wheel cylinders. Springs are not stretched and the lower shoe is just > hanging there. If I adjust the brakes so there is a little tension holding > the shoes in place, then the drum won't go on easily. > > And the arc of the brake material on the two shoes does not line up with > the > curvature of the backing plate; the leading edges of the brake material is > really leading. Previous owner? > > For reference, the original VW Bug, had brake springs like this but those > springs really snugged the shoes into place, and the brake shoe material > lined up with the curvature of the backing plate. Ideas?? .bill in > corvallis > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 06:07:58 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 05:07:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing....... wheel cleaner Flash Royal Brown. Message-ID: List, I have a 94 Saturn I bought for the motor & wheels sitting at my mechanics junk yard. Last week they installed the aluminium factory wheels for my daily driver 94 Saturn wagon (my wheel covers keep popping off) that are pretty ugly and I thought they could be salvaged. After an extensive search I found "Flash" Royal Brown Wheel Cleaner. With shipping it cost $20. for 32 oz. but it is as amazing as the youtubes show. Spray on dry wheels leave on for a minute and then hose off. It removed the brown dust from brake pads and the nasty white oxidation from the junk yard. It was difficult to find the product because they don't sell it in stores but once I found that it is "Flash" in front of the Royal Brown name it was easy. http://www.flashwax.com/wheelcleanerpolishers.html amazing youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEhR3e35ZBE Lin From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Oct 2 09:54:43 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 15:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... Message-ID: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B at one light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the next light it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B I have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding like I am reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B What am I missing? Ryan From mjb at autox.team.net Sun Oct 2 11:56:53 2011 From: mjb at autox.team.net (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:56:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Spridgets] List issues Message-ID: <20111002175653.5AC73187682@autox.team.net> Not only is the Team.Net server taking a loooong time to get list messages processed, the archives [ link below ] are not getting updated properly. In truth the messages are getting processed and put in the right place, but for some reason the top level archive page is not showing the updates. And of course the mailman interface is having problems, giving errors on various functions. Something odd is going on, I'm looking into it. I *really* need to get the new server up and running! mjb. 11:56 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 2 12:10:52 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:10:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnosing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3F5655F3DAA942BFBFABEABC87A0BD66@spider> Dash pots sticking? Intermittent air leak at throttle shafts. Put the old jets back in. ...bill in corvallis =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:55 AM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnosing this.... Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B at one light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the next light it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B I have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding like I am reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B What am I missing? Ryan Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 12:31:15 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 18:31:15 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Ryan, This sounds like you may have worn throttle shafts or the holes where the shafts ride are elongated. That problem allows the random nature of the butterfly's sometimes closing correctly and other times not. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 15:54:43 To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B at one light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the next light it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B I have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding like I am reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B What am I missing? Ryan _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 12:43:09 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:43:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Installed facet pump on Pinky 62 where can I run the power Message-ID: List, I finally installed the facet pump on Pinky 62 Sprite where can I run the power line without drilling another hole in the body. Any ideas, what have others done? I can run the line and follow the line leading to the tail lights but that will mean I need to drill another hole is that my only option? Lin From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 12:45:46 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:45:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: You have oil in the carb dampers? BTW, your overbore is probably 0.03 and not .3, right? From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 12:47:13 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:47:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: If so maybe a vacuum leak? From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 13:32:35 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 15:32:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5BE41CD4-A2A8-497C-BF15-9CCC072EB5E3@gmail.com> Ryan, Sounds like an intake leak. Either at the carbs or where the manifold meets the block. Could also be worn throttle shafts or a crack in the intake manifold. Kevin On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:54 AM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., > distributor at 12 > o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at > lights) > > > > ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets > stuck down > when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car > gets to > temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. > > > > The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B > at one > light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the > next light > it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it > it drops > to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the > RPM's this > seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right > back to 2100. > I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to > matter.B I > have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything > sticking.B > > > > Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding > like I am > reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the > next.B What am > I missing? > > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ > kevinv1275 at gmail.com From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sun Oct 2 14:50:33 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 16:50:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westc hester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <201110022051.p92Kp2UW012500@mail.usimperio.com> Sounds like an air leak around the throttle shafts. Take a can of 2+2 or brakekleen and spray around the shafts while it is at idle, should notice a drop in engine speed or even a stalling out. Does your jets take the rubber donut for a seat? They could be shot. If it's gross jets, replace 'em. Dave At 11:54 AM 10/2/2011, you wrote: >Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 >o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) > > > >ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down >when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to >temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. > > > >The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B at one >light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the next light >it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops >to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this >seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. >I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B I >have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B > > > >Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding like I am >reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B What am >I missing? > >Ryan >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc at littlebitcountry.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.1809 / Virus Database: 2085/4533 - Release Date: 10/02/11 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Oct 2 15:08:29 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 17:08:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Or maybe a sticky throttle cable. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 2:47 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... If so maybe a vacuum leak? _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Sun Oct 2 16:02:09 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 17:02:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installed facet pump on Pinky 62 where can I run the power In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E88DF61.9050101@justbrits.com> WTF ???????????????? # 1 -<< I finally installed the facet pump on Pinky 62 Sprite where can I run the power line without drilling another hole in the body. >> OK, makes SENSE and WHY aren't you FINISHED with the job ?? # 2 -<< Any ideas, what have others done? >> WHY ask NOW and ESPECIALLY since it WOULD seem you have ALREADY 'listened' to what "have others done" ? !?!?!?!? # 3 -<< I can run the line and follow the line leading to the tail lights but that will mean I need to drill another hole is that my only option? >> If one reads your entire post as the single paragraph it is Linda, it makes NO sense at all !?!?!?! Since # 1 SEEMS to be THE answer, WTF are you even ASKING # 3 ??? Makes ZERO sense ! ! ! From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sun Oct 2 16:10:42 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 17:10:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installed facet pump on Pinky 62 where can I run the power In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02d101cc8150$207ab060$61701120$@austin.rr.com> You can route it through the grommet for the fuel sending unit. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:43 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Installed facet pump on Pinky 62 where can I run the power List, I finally installed the facet pump on Pinky 62 Sprite where can I run the power line without drilling another hole in the body. Any ideas, what have others done? I can run the line and follow the line leading to the tail lights but that will mean I need to drill another hole is that my only option? Lin From shop at justbrits.com Sun Oct 2 16:11:43 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 17:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E88E19F.3050400@justbrits.com> << What am I missing? >> Air and/or vac leak someplace, Ryan. Step # 1 ---Spend some time perusing The Archives ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Step # 2 ---Print out replies received today !! Step # 3 ---can of Aerosol Carb Cleaner. Step # 4 ---Using a 4" or 5" nozzle (SHOULD come taped to Aerosol can) gently spray in all the various areas where leaks could/can/do/will occur. Step # 5 ---Fix what is broke !!! From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sun Oct 2 16:17:55 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 17:17:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <02d201cc8151$22cbfdf0$6863f9d0$@austin.rr.com> In a 74 midget, if you have unmodified SU carbs, I believe the throttle butterflies have a spring loaded valve to allow the throttle to return to idle slowly. It is part of the emission control. These valves get dirt under them and/or the springs get weak and break. You can cut them off with side cutters and solder up the remaining holes. If that is not the problem, the ends of the connecting throttle shaft are probably not adjusted correctly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:55 AM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B at one light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the next light it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B I have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding like I am reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B What am I missing? Ryan From lists at woozy.com Sun Oct 2 16:21:36 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 18:21:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? Message-ID: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> Hi All, I've been trying unsuccessfully for a couple of weekends to get my Midget back on the road. Today I noticed a LOT of play in my distributor shaft and am pretty sure I need to replace the distributor. I am using a Crane Fireball XR700 with it and I believe they only work with the 45D4 dizzys. I came across this one on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260753258326 Has anyone had any experience with these good or bad? They are described as a "new reproduction distributor" which probably means made in China. We tight, but I'd like the thing to last for more than a few months. If anyone has a good used 45D4 sitting around that they would like to sell at a reasonable price please contact me off-list. Thanks, Robert From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Oct 2 16:48:10 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 17:48:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Installed facet pump on Pinky 62 where can I run the power In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52171.108.115.251.111.1317595690.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Lin, How about running it along the rail with the brake line or fuel line? Run it the channel and zip-tie it to the clips used to hold the brake or fuel line and then to the battery or fuse box. You could even put in an in-line fuse. Just a thought...worked for me. Dave W. > List, > I finally installed the facet pump on Pinky 62 Sprite where can I run the > power line without drilling another hole in the body. Any ideas, what have > others done? I can run the line and follow the line leading to the tail > lights but that will mean I need to drill another hole is that my only > option? > > Lin From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 16:52:35 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 18:52:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Are all three throttle springs in place and functioning properly? On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:54 AM, wrote: > Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 > o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) > > > > ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets stuck > down > when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to > temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. > > > > The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B at one > light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the next > light > it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it > drops > to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's > this > seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to > 2100. > I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B > I > have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B > > > > Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding like I > am > reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B What > am > I missing? > > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 2 17:10:07 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 16:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 In-Reply-To: <7D3C324E932F44A89B3338FE7DCDE184@user8634b3d69b> References: <2C1BF9F565564C92B8E86596FFEB6B08@spider> <1E33D56BD1AC43ACAE8EDD3AC7670AC2@spider> <7D3C324E932F44A89B3338FE7DCDE184@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <4D5B0C761E6B49A9B9B11A19C6502D4A@spider> Sunday - yes, the springs have stretched. You cannot really notice it by eye but we need them to be 1/4-inch shorter. ...bill in corvallis ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 11:24 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 Hi Bill, You may find the springs have stretched, especially if the have been fitted incorrectly at some stage. If they were fitted on the outside of the shoe you'll find the shoes are pulled out and you get abnormal wear on the inner side of both the shoe and drum. It may well be worth checking the braking area on the drum to see if this is worn at an angle. If so, it is new drums. Also check against the manual to see if the correct mounting holes have been used for the springs. Guy R Day ==================================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 > Well, that was it. Just let it sit there over night and it seemed better. > Also, took the drum off of the black BE and looked at its brakes. The > brake > shoe return springs are happier on the inside of the shoes. All is well > .on > the left side. Now, about the right side. Will post more if needed. .bill > in > corvallis > > > > _____ > > From: bealeguter at gmail.com [mailto:bealeguter at gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Steven > Guterman > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:38 AM > To: corvallis at peoplepc.com > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE front brake question(s) 1960 > > > > Bill, > > Have you tried adjusting the brakes after you put the drum in place? That > may let them seat properly to the arch. > > Steve > > ============================================================================ > === > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:58 PM, wrote: > > Replaced the left front wheel cylinders (and rubber brake line) on the > 1960 > BE. > > The shoe springs do not appear to be holding the brake shoes snug against > the wheel cylinders. Springs are not stretched and the lower shoe is just > hanging there. If I adjust the brakes so there is a little tension holding > the shoes in place, then the drum won't go on easily. > > And the arc of the brake material on the two shoes does not line up with > the > curvature of the backing plate; the leading edges of the brake material is > really leading. Previous owner? > > For reference, the original VW Bug, had brake springs like this but those > springs really snugged the shoes into place, and the brake shoe material > lined up with the curvature of the backing plate. Ideas?? .bill in > corvallis > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 17:56:42 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 18:56:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? In-Reply-To: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> References: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> Message-ID: I had Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors rebuild mine, and it has been working perfectly ever since. 612-804-55434 On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Robert Weeks wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been trying unsuccessfully for a couple of weekends to get my Midget > back on the road. > > Today I noticed a LOT of play in my distributor shaft and am pretty sure I > need to replace the distributor. I am using a Crane Fireball XR700 with it > and I believe they only work with the 45D4 dizzys. I came across this one on > ebay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?** > ViewItem&item=260753258326< > http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?** > ViewItem&item=260753258326 > > > > Has anyone had any experience with these good or bad? They are described as > a "new reproduction distributor" which probably means made in China. > > We tight, but I'd like the thing to last for more than a few months. > > If anyone has a good used 45D4 sitting around that they would like to sell > at a reasonable price please contact me off-list. > > Thanks, > > Robert > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/tequila.**brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From pdx.pete at frontier.com Sun Oct 2 17:56:56 2011 From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 23:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? In-Reply-To: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> Message-ID: <257749010.54804.1317599816793.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Send an email to Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors. He specializes in the repair of such things. jeff at advanceddistributors.com Tell him Mario sent you ... it just might confuse the heck out of him ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weeks" To: "Spridget" Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 3:21:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? Hi All, I've been trying unsuccessfully for a couple of weekends to get my Midget back on the road. Today I noticed a LOT of play in my distributor shaft and am pretty sure I need to replace the distributor. I am using a Crane Fireball XR700 with it and I believe they only work with the 45D4 dizzys. I came across this one on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260753258326 Has anyone had any experience with these good or bad? They are described as a "new reproduction distributor" which probably means made in China. We tight, but I'd like the thing to last for more than a few months. If anyone has a good used 45D4 sitting around that they would like to sell at a reasonable price please contact me off-list. Thanks, Robert Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pdx.pete at frontier.com From lists at woozy.com Sun Oct 2 18:12:06 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 20:12:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? In-Reply-To: <257749010.54804.1317599816793.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <257749010.54804.1317599816793.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4E88FDD6.1030702@woozy.com> Thanks Brad and Peter, According to his web site it looks like his turn-around time is at least 3 weeks and I need a new distributor by next weekend. I'm trying to get the car running in time for a Waxoyl treatment fundraiser being run by these guys at the end of the month: http://b-stingers.com I'll need time to sort out the carbs once I get the distributor in and that turn-around time is cutting it too close. I don't have a garage and getting the car periodically treated with Waxoyl is my only hope for keeping the car from turning into a rust bucket. Robert On 10/2/2011 7:56 PM, Peter Shull wrote: > Send an email to Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors. He specializes in the repair of such things. > > jeff at advanceddistributors.com > > Tell him Mario sent you ... it just might confuse the heck out of him From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Oct 2 19:05:12 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:05:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installed facet pump on Pinky 62 where can I run the power In-Reply-To: <52171.108.115.251.111.1317595690.squirrel@wm.wi.net> References: <52171.108.115.251.111.1317595690.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Message-ID: Follow the route of the wire to the gas gauge sending unit. Sent from my keyboard On Oct 2, 2011, at 6:48 PM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote: > Lin, > > How about running it along the rail with the brake line or fuel line? Run > it the channel and zip-tie it to the clips used to hold the brake or fuel > line and then to the battery or fuse box. You could even put in an > in-line fuse. > Just a thought...worked for me. > > Dave W. > > > >> List, >> I finally installed the facet pump on Pinky 62 Sprite where can I run the >> power line without drilling another hole in the body. Any ideas, what have >> others done? I can run the line and follow the line leading to the tail >> lights but that will mean I need to drill another hole is that my only >> option? >> >> Lin > _______________________________________________ From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sun Oct 2 20:12:08 2011 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 22:12:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Sounds like a vacuum leak, if you take a propane torch (unlit) and turn the gas on slowly and pass it over intake manifold, engine will speed up at point of leak. j -----Original Message----- From: Dean Hedin Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 5:08 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: 'spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... Or maybe a sticky throttle cable. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 2:47 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... If so maybe a vacuum leak? _______________________________________________ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sun Oct 2 20:38:11 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:38:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? In-Reply-To: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> References: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> Message-ID: <201110030238.p932cfXk013814@mail.usimperio.com> Take it to a machine shop and have new bushings installed. Cheaper than a new dizzy. Dave At 06:21 PM 10/2/2011, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I've been trying unsuccessfully for a couple of weekends to get my >Midget back on the road. > >Today I noticed a LOT of play in my distributor shaft and am pretty >sure I need to replace the distributor. I am using a Crane Fireball >XR700 with it and I believe they only work with the 45D4 dizzys. I >came across this one on ebay: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260753258326 > > >Has anyone had any experience with these good or bad? They are >described as a "new reproduction distributor" which probably means >made in China. > >We tight, but I'd like the thing to last for more than a few months. > >If anyone has a good used 45D4 sitting around that they would like >to sell at a reasonable price please contact me off-list. > >Thanks, From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Sun Oct 2 21:03:05 2011 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:03:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E8925E9.4020809@bellsouth.net> I agree with all those who responded, but you might also want to check the needles and jets. Make sure the needles are seated squarely and are not worn or dinged. Also look at the hole in the jet to make sure it is round and not elongated. Many times a maladjusted needle will wear the jet and give erratic and bad mixture. It usually is not bad enough, however, to cause sticking. Make sure the pistons rise and fall freely in the dash pots and are not nicked or worn. A bad needle/jet can also cause the piston to hang up. Bob On 10/2/2011 11:54 AM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 > o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) > > > > ran fine before replacing jets last june.B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down > when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to > temp.B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. > > > > The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B at one > light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B at the next light > it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops > to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this > seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. > I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B I > have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B > > > > Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B I hate sounding like I am > reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B What am > I missing? > > Ryan > _______________________________________________ From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Oct 2 21:20:14 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 03:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <2E282FDE-79FE-4143-9902-47E9EB77AC38@mac.com> Message-ID: <1266720168.110697.1317612014049.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> okay what should I be looking for on theB distributer?B new points old condenser (2 years old) and at 12 o'clock.B suggestions...B remember everything I know about these cars you and frank were either next to me or standing over me telling me I was doing it wrong :- ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macy Larry" To: "ryan kubanoff" Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:44:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... Why can no on ever get that timing has an essential part of this?? THere are 3 things an engine needs, air (compression) fuel and spark. B If the spark no hit in the right time the air and fuel no workee. (you can get close, but maybe not right??) But everyone assumes the carbs are FUBAR. Check the distributer FIRST. Larry On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:54 AM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 > o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) > > > > ran fine before replacing jets last june.B B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down > when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to > temp.B B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. > > > > The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B B at one > light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B B at the next light > it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops > to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this > seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. > I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B B I > have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B > > > > Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B B I hate sounding like I am > reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B B What am > I missing? > > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller From shop at justbrits.com Sun Oct 2 22:16:20 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:16:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? In-Reply-To: <201110030238.p932cfXk013814@mail.usimperio.com> References: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> <201110030238.p932cfXk013814@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <4E893714.1010907@justbrits.com> Hee, hee Dave ! ! my SECOND choice ....... << Take it to a machine shop and have new bushings installed. >> Robert, I know it's almost UN-heard of these days but PICK-UP the TELEPHONE and CALL Jeff. THEN, if you plead you case "correctly" Jeff may very well assist you with your plight !?!?! From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 2 22:57:54 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 04:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <4E8925E9.4020809@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <783986423.221879.1317617874694.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Remember, some SU's have spring biased needles!! That can also wear the jet on one side... but it takes an *awful* lot of miles to do that! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Bob Spruck" wrote: >Also look at the hole in the jet to make sure it > is round and not elongated. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 2 23:00:02 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 05:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1266720168.110697.1317612014049.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1502270742.221889.1317618002211.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> "Behind every successful man is a woman -- telling him he's wrong!" So you're a success :) -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "ryan kubanoff" wrote: > remember everything I know about these cars you and frank were either next to > me or standing over me telling me I was doing it wrong :- ) From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 04:19:31 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 03:19:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Installed facet pump on Pinky 62 where can I run the power In-Reply-To: References: <52171.108.115.251.111.1317595690.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Message-ID: List, Great answers and many at that, glad to hear Ed is as rude as ever to me : ) He reminds me of the boy in class who puts the girls pig tails in the ink bottle because he liked the girl....wink. Love you too Ed. I thought of running the power line via the fuel line with nylon ties but it kind of freaked me out to have the electricity so close to the fuel line. I didn't realize the brake line is under there too I'll take a look at that as well. I'll go with either one. Sorry for dragging this out it has take me so long because of a herniated disk which I have nursed for years almost giving up at times too. But I should be done soon. Thanks again, Lin On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Follow the route of the wire to the gas gauge sending unit. > > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Oct 2, 2011, at 6:48 PM, dwoerpel at wi.net wrote: > > > Lin, > > > > How about running it along the rail with the brake line or fuel line? > Run > > it the channel and zip-tie it to the clips used to hold the brake or fuel > > line and then to the battery or fuse box. You could even put in an > > in-line fuse. > > Just a thought...worked for me. > > > > Dave W. > > > > > > > >> List, > >> I finally installed the facet pump on Pinky 62 Sprite where can I run > the > >> power line without drilling another hole in the body. Any ideas, what > have > >> others done? I can run the line and follow the line leading to the tail > >> lights but that will mean I need to drill another hole is that my only > >> option? > >> > >> Lin > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Oct 3 06:02:18 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 05:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Update Message-ID: <1317643338.28293.YahooMailClassic@web161215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Nothing dramatic, just slow progress. Check out my link to the British V8 site below to see some low buck Lizard Skin, cheap big box insulation and try to figure out how I spent six hours fitting the shift boot. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From lmacy at mac.com Mon Oct 3 11:09:03 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 13:09:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 45D4 distributors on ebay? In-Reply-To: References: <4E88E3F0.5020104@woozy.com> Message-ID: <35371E16-A9E2-4B48-AF73-1B53CF0C0563@mac.com> Jeff is a great guy. He was at MG 2008 in Valley Forge PA and actually got up at 6 AM and installed a new dizzy in my Midget in the parking lot of the hotel. It ran great, until it quit running (not the fault of the Dizzy) Ain't no way I would every do any other dealer for distributer issues. Larry On Oct 2, 2011, at 19:56 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I had Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced Distributors rebuild mine, and it has been > working perfectly ever since. > 612-804-55434 > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Robert Weeks wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I've been trying unsuccessfully for a couple of weekends to get my Midget >> back on the road. >> >> Today I noticed a LOT of play in my distributor shaft and am pretty sure I >> need to replace the distributor. I am using a Crane Fireball XR700 with it >> and I believe they only work with the 45D4 dizzys. I came across this one on >> ebay: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?** >> ViewItem&item=260753258326< >> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?** >> ViewItem&item=260753258326 >>> >> >> Has anyone had any experience with these good or bad? They are described as >> a "new reproduction distributor" which probably means made in China. >> >> We tight, but I'd like the thing to last for more than a few months. >> >> If anyone has a good used 45D4 sitting around that they would like to sell >> at a reasonable price please contact me off-list. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Robert >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/tequila.**brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > http://tequilabrad.com/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 3 13:08:07 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:08:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 50th review Message-ID: <201110031208661.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Classic Motorsports November page 41 has a 1 column article written by "Gunner" John Gunnell (Monday's speaker) and yet another Diekis' car picture. Pat yourselves on the back. Peter C From jessmd1 at comcast.net Mon Oct 3 15:37:03 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:37:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel tank sending unit wire Message-ID: <3DFA9904-6CC7-4607-AED6-8821010463D0@comcast.net> Which is the proper direction to run a fuel tank lead from the sending unit? Does it run toward the front or rear of the car? Is there only one lead? From jessmd1 at comcast.net Mon Oct 3 17:37:10 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:37:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sending unit Message-ID: I am placing a new fuel tank and sending unit in my bugeye.I plan to ground the unit from one of the screws that holds it on the tank to the nuts on the gas tank,and one wire lead from the sending unit itself to the hole on the bottom side of the body where it will connect to the wire harness.Does this sound correct? The nut on the sender will be facing toward the front of the car.Do I need to place gasket sealer on the sending unit? Are there any other wire connections needed before I install the gas tank? From hardy.john at cox.net Mon Oct 3 18:25:58 2011 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:25:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel tank sending unit wire In-Reply-To: <3DFA9904-6CC7-4607-AED6-8821010463D0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20111003202558.KXBAH.2146888.imail@fed1rmwml41> Jess, It runs to the rear, the connection for this circuit exits the wiring harness at the same location as the license plate lamp. Wire from harness should be Green/Black, single lead. Cheers, John ---- Jess Power wrote: > Which is the proper direction to run a fuel tank lead from the > sending unit? Does it run toward the front or rear of the car? Is > there only one lead? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hardy.john at cox.net From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Mon Oct 3 18:39:53 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:39:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] fuel tank sending unit wire In-Reply-To: <3DFA9904-6CC7-4607-AED6-8821010463D0@comcast.net> References: <3DFA9904-6CC7-4607-AED6-8821010463D0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201110040040.p940eRIj021954@mail.usimperio.com> Since it terminates under the dash, I'd run it towards the front of the car. It is only one lead that hooks to the spade that is insulated from the sending unit, if there are 2 spades the other goes to ground. Dave At 05:37 PM 10/3/2011, you wrote: > Which is the proper direction to run a fuel tank lead from the >sending unit? Does it run toward the front or rear of the car? Is >there only one lead? From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Oct 3 19:07:39 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:07:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sending unit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <515EC7DFC0C74E5E99C7C353AA1B6DB1@spider> There should be a resilient gasket with your sending unit. Most gasket sealer will soften or dissolve with gasoline, especially the newer blends. ...bill in corvallis ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:37 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] sending unit I am placing a new fuel tank and sending unit in my bugeye.I plan to ground the unit from one of the screws that holds it on the tank to the nuts on the gas tank,and one wire lead from the sending unit itself to the hole on the bottom side of the body where it will connect to the wire harness.Does this sound correct? The nut on the sender will be facing toward the front of the car.Do I need to place gasket sealer on the sending unit? Are there any other wire connections needed before I install the gas tank? _______________________________________________ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 19:43:22 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 01:43:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] sending unit Message-ID: You should have a neoprene gasket for the sending unit. No need for a gasket sealer. I have never replaced a BE tank but have not seen sealer used on other cars. In any case you will have a vented cap so there not be any pressure build up. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Jess Power Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] sending unit Sent: Oct 3, 2011 7:37 PM I am placing a new fuel tank and sending unit in my bugeye.I plan to ground the unit from one of the screws that holds it on the tank to the nuts on the gas tank,and one wire lead from the sending unit itself to the hole on the bottom side of the body where it will connect to the wire harness.Does this sound correct? The nut on the sender will be facing toward the front of the car.Do I need to place gasket sealer on the sending unit? Are there any other wire connections needed before I install the gas tank? _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From aseippel at austin.rr.com Mon Oct 3 21:09:31 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:09:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sending unit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <036801cc8243$098a9ac0$1c9fd040$@austin.rr.com> The sending unit should be installed in the tank so the nut is positioned toward the rear of the car. The gasket on the sending unit should be sealed with Hylomar. On a bugeye, the wire is part of the harness and is fed through a grommet from inside the trunk and runs toward the front of the car. The grommet is on the floor of the trunk and is below the area on the license plate. The wire attaches to the sending unit through a stud and nut. The sending unit is grounded through the mounting studs that attaches the tank to the body of the car. If you want to verify operation of the fuel gauge and sending unit before you install the tank, you can ground the lead to the sending unit with the ignition switch turned on. The gauge should show full travel when you ground and unground the sending unit wire. You can use a VOM to measure the resistance between the body of the sending unit and the stud where the wire attaches to the sending unit. The resistance should change as you move the float arm. You can also attach the wire to the sending unit and ground the body of the sending unit. Then you can verify the complete system works and you move the float arm. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:37 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] sending unit I am placing a new fuel tank and sending unit in my bugeye.I plan to ground the unit from one of the screws that holds it on the tank to the nuts on the gas tank,and one wire lead from the sending unit itself to the hole on the bottom side of the body where it will connect to the wire harness.Does this sound correct? The nut on the sender will be facing toward the front of the car.Do I need to place gasket sealer on the sending unit? Are there any other wire connections needed before I install the gas tank? _______________________________________________ From millerls at ado13.com Mon Oct 3 22:16:19 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:16:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe Message-ID: http://monterey.craigslist.org/tls/2616699502.html Any thoughts on this? Larry Miller From stargazer1 at cox.net Mon Oct 3 23:26:59 2011 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:26:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil (or lack thereof) in the steering rack Message-ID: <4E8A9923.5040300@cox.net> How much oil do you put in the steering rack? I don't own an oil gun to top up the lubricant in our steering rack. We have the radiator out so we can get at the damper caps to add oil. But, I have no idea how to tell when we've added enough oil. Thanks, Dave Ambrose 1970 MG Midget From clarici at verizon.net Tue Oct 4 05:37:43 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 07:37:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005101cc828a$08a3ec00$19ebc400$@net> Not a bad little machine. Seems a bit pricey though. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:16 AM To: Spridget; Sprite Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe http://monterey.craigslist.org/tls/2616699502.html Any thoughts on this? Larry Miller Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 08:00:17 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 07:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1317736817.42436.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If in as good working order as it looks, I'd love to add it to my shop. (except of course, that I don't at the moment have a shop and have all my tools crammed into a tiny 1-car rental garage along with the Spridget and the Sporty) Still... Looks like a deal to me, but have not priced this stuff out in a long time. - David ________________________________ From: Larry & Sandi Miller To: Spridget ; Sprite Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 12:16 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe http://monterey.craigslist.org/tls/2616699502.html Any thoughts on this? Larry Miller _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 08:03:38 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 07:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: <005101cc828a$08a3ec00$19ebc400$@net> References: <005101cc828a$08a3ec00$19ebc400$@net> Message-ID: <1317737018.9148.YahooMailNeo@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wondered, but like I said have not priced this stuff out so am out of touch. I seems to have lots of tools, pklus the drill press, and the bench too. Guess you could always offer him a lower price. Probably not a whole lot of competition so you never know. What price would you offer Frankie? $1,000 ? $750 ? - David From stargazer1 at cox.net Tue Oct 4 11:59:07 2011 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 10:59:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E8B496B.2020308@cox.net> It really depends on the tooling that comes with the lathe. If it has 3 and 4 jaw chucks, good live centers, carbide cutters, tool holders, and a collet set, that's a really good price. If it comes with dial indicators and micrometers, that's a great price. You'll have to set up the lathe when you get it into its new location. That's a fairly tedious job. Cheers, Dave On 10/3/2011 9:16 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > http://monterey.craigslist.org/tls/2616699502.html > > Any thoughts on this? > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1 at cox.net From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 12:45:24 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:45:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Price might be OK, depending on tooling. The lathe is worth $500-750, maybe, IMHO. I've owned several Atlas/Craftsman 6" and 12" lathes. They are OK machines. I currently have a 9X30 Import lathe from www.lathemaster.com . I know the lathemaster guy and he sells imported stuff, but not junk. He travels to China and has stuff made to his specs. The Atlas lathes have flat ways which are inferior to inverted V ways. Other than that they are capable machines. Tooling is still key, though, as tooling for machine tools can very easily be worth 2-5X what the machine tool is worth. I can't remember if that model Atlas has a planetary back gear or not. Back gear is for slow turning high torque stuff. Another limit on the Atlases is the small diameter of the through head hole. I bought my lathemaster 9X30 and changed it to variable speed DC drive with parts sourced on ebay for around $200. It came with a lot of tooling like steady rest, follower rest, change gears, different chucks, etc. www.lathes.co.uk is an excellent source of lathe info. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 12:47:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here we go, it looks like a MK 2 and I think it does have the planetary back gear: http://www.lathes.co.uk/atlas6inch/page2.html From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 12:52:11 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:52:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Correction, back gear is not planetary, just "compact". From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Oct 4 14:02:51 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1571846619.212300.1317758571038.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> So preliminary results look like it was low dashpot oil level and carpet wrapped around long peddle on the right.B I will let you know when I go for a longer ride. thanks for all your suggestions! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ryan kubanoff" To: "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:54:43 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) ran fine before replacing jets last june.B B one jet repeatedly gets stuck down when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to temp.B B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B B at one light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B B at the next light it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it drops to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's this seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to 2100. I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B B I have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B B I hate sounding like I am reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B B What am I missing? Ryan Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 13:50:37 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:50:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline plus Seafoam? Message-ID: So it seems it's been a long while since I put fuel in my Mk2 Sprite. I haven't driven it much lately but every time I get in it and hit the starter with a little choke it just starts right up and purrs. It's got an earlier Bugeye 948 motor. I know pretty sure I added Seafoam last winter, should I go ahead and do that again when preparing for this winter? I will also get some pure gasoline and top up the tank. Of course I'll take it out and drive it a bit to make sure the new gas works through the system. Must also check the anti-freeze. What a nice pleasant little car, it's sitting out in my 12x24 shed all snug. Rick (getting colder outside already) Bastedo From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Oct 4 15:35:23 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 21:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake switch dead? Message-ID: <1805376997.217952.1317764123029.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Do I remember correctly that if your back lights work but niether of your brake lights come on when you hit the brakes that the *&%$) switch has died and needs to be replaced?B Or is there a loose wire/ ground that I have forgotten about. Ryan of little brake warning. From pelliott at innercite.com Tue Oct 4 16:19:32 2011 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:19:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02c001cc82e3$b26c4990$1744dcb0$@com> Me: as in my company: www.bigdogmetalworks.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:52 AM To: Larry & Sandi Miller Cc: Spridget; Sprite Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lathe Correction, back gear is not planetary, just "compact". Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3937 - Release Date: 10/04/11 From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 16:53:17 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:53:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: <02c001cc82e3$b26c4990$1744dcb0$@com> References: <02c001cc82e3$b26c4990$1744dcb0$@com> Message-ID: That Big Dog 9X30 looks very similar to my lathemaster 9X30. I fitted a 1/2HP DC motor, though, and variable speed reversing controller. LMK when/if they make a quick change gearbox for the 9X30. I got extra gears to make a tumble reverse for mine, but have not yet gotten around to making it. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Oct 4 16:54:19 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:54:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake switch dead? In-Reply-To: <1805376997.217952.1317764123029.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1805376997.217952.1317764123029.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: A voltmeter will show you if you're getting voltage to the switch on one end, ignition on. You can use a resistance meter to check if the switch is closing, ignition off and having someone tap the brakes. Bypassing the switch with a wire, ignition on, should light the brake lights. ...bill in corvallis -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:35 PM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Brake switch dead? Do I remember correctly that if your back lights work but niether of your brake lights come on when you hit the brakes that the *&%$) switch has died and needs to be replaced?B Or is there a loose wire/ ground that I have forgotten about. Ryan of little brake warning. _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 16:58:16 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:58:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline plus Seafoam? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a bud who swears by Seafoam. I helped him pull a 355 from his Blazer and drop in a Cummins 4BT. He had put 30,000 miles on the 355 and the injectors and intake tract looked as clean as new. From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 17:11:06 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:11:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline plus Seafoam? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Against all better judgement this car has sat outside over the past couple years. Other than a basic tune up/ oil change when I first put it on the road the only thing that's been added to the motor is Seafoam. The fact that I can go out after several months and just start it right up without any drama at all is enough for me. Before it turns truly nasty weather-wise I will add some gas and a new container of Seafoam, I'll put some Seafoam in the oil too then run it a while. Then in the spring it will be ready to roll again... I did some figuring today, since my shed is 12.5 feet wide and 24 feet long I can easily fit two Spridgets in there. Especially if they are on wheel dollies. Good thing, since we will be getting a bare tub to build into a car and we will need a little room! Peter and I plan to build a car from a tub, should be a lot of fun! RickB On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:58 PM, derf wrote: > I have a bud who swears by Seafoam. I helped him pull a 355 from his > Blazer and drop in a Cummins 4BT. He had put 30,000 miles on the 355 > and the injectors and intake tract looked as clean as new. From clarici at verizon.net Tue Oct 4 17:39:32 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:39:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lathe In-Reply-To: <1317737018.9148.YahooMailNeo@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <005101cc828a$08a3ec00$19ebc400$@net> <1317737018.9148.YahooMailNeo@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501cc82ee$dec15020$9c43f060$@net> I am thinking it's a 750-1000 unit. Check out http://www.owwm.org/index.php?sid=93c4c36663368eab8e53df1f8847bdc3 It's a good source for info. I bought my very large American Tool Works lathe with lots of tooling for $300 but large old lathes usually only fetch scrap or just over scrap due to their size. Frank From: David Booker [mailto:tncarnut1 at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:04 AM To: Frankie Clarici 4th; 'Larry & Sandi Miller'; 'Spridget'; 'Sprite' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lathe I wondered, but like I said have not priced this stuff out so am out of touch. I seems to have lots of tools, pklus the drill press, and the bench too. Guess you could always offer him a lower price. Probably not a whole lot of competition so you never know. What price would you offer Frankie? $1,000 ? $750 ? - David From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 18:35:19 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:35:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... In-Reply-To: <1571846619.212300.1317758571038.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1514659805.85680.1317570883095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1571846619.212300.1317758571038.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Cool Ryan keep us posted. Lin On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:02 PM, wrote: > So preliminary results look like it was low dashpot oil level and carpet > wrapped around long peddle on the right.B I will let you know when I go > for a > longer ride. > > thanks for all your suggestions! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "ryan kubanoff" > To: "spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:54:43 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Help diagnossing this.... > > Okay 74 midget, std cam, std distributor, bored .3 over., distributor at 12 > o'clock, Idle set (maybe) at 1000B B (i like smooth quiet purr at lights) > > > > ran fine before replacing jets last june.B B one jet repeatedly gets stuck > down > when pulling choke out and I have to stop and push back up once car gets to > temp.B B This is not the problem annoying but not the problem. > > > > The problem is that my idle is all over the place (cold or warm).B B at one > light its at 900 drops to 500 when I push in the clutch.B B at the next > light > it may be at 2100 at idle and when I push the clutch in to lower it it > drops > to 1500 still way to high.B when I tap the gas peddle to bump the RPM's > this > seems to have no affect on resetting the idle and it runs right back to > 2100. > I have played with idle adjustmnet screws and it doesn't seem to matter.B B > I > have checked and oiled all parts of carbs I don't see anything sticking.B > > > > Help I am out of ideas and this is just annoying.B B I hate sounding like I > am > reving my engine at one light and then almost stalling at the next.B B What > am > I missing? > > Ryan > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From kmappley at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 20:31:16 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 21:31:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re ethanol-free fuel Message-ID: Michael, why is water settling out of gasoline to the bottom of the tank a good thing? Seems like every rusted out tank I've ever seen rusted out in the bottom where the water sat. Before ethanol blended fuel I always ran a can or 2 of Heet (alcolhol!) thru my vehicles that I was going to store just to get rid of that water. Now I don't have to. One more problem with ethanol: It will clean out the water and the DIRT in your tank. Watch your fuel filter. BTW congrats on the column in Classic Motorsports and I think "White Trash" should have at least had equal billing! Kurt. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Oct 5 11:46:19 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?cnlhbi5rdWJhbm9mZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:46:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Brake_switch_dead=3F?= Message-ID: <20111005174627.87BE718764B@autox.team.net> Problem solved. It was the switch like I thought. Problem was corrosion in the switch itself and grumpy midget karma. Thanks for your help. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 5:35 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Brake switch dead? To: "spridgets" Do I remember correctly that if your back lights work but niether of your brake lights come on when you hit the brakes that the *&%$) switch has died and needs to be replaced?B Or is there a loose wire/ ground that I have forgotten about. Ryan of little brake warning. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From johnsfolly at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 12:20:06 2011 From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (John Deikis) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:20:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 50th Review Message-ID: <87AF8730-48AA-4386-AC58-CB4FBFD6246D@gmail.com> >yet another Diekis car photo< Now THAT'S a cool lookin Spridget! But I need Soave to build the motor. JohnD Still Playing with Little Cars www.johnsfolly.webs.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 5 14:14:08 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:14:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts) In-Reply-To: <52898924D0994A97A4C8E203F61BE545@Home> References: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com> <1317353203.46507.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52898924D0994A97A4C8E203F61BE545@Home> Message-ID: Pfftt.. if you want to know where he is just ask Mrs. Claus' attorney. He'll know and also know his net income and how much of it is goodwill from Mrs. Claus.. or so I've heard... Lester On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> Santa Claus isn't real? > > Of course he's real, silly. He just ran off with the Tooth Fairy, and no one has seen him in a long time. > > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 17:51:28 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 19:51:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake switch dead? In-Reply-To: <20111005174627.87BE718764B@autox.team.net> References: <20111005174627.87BE718764B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:46 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: Problem was corrosion in the switch itself and grumpy midget karma. ------------------------------------------------------- Grumpy prefers the term "little person" and doesn't give a d at mn about Karma since she threw him over for her new guy! -- Ed From shop at justbrits.com Wed Oct 5 18:28:54 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:28:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Ethanol (no politics, just facts) In-Reply-To: References: <015b01cc7f15$eb795560$c26c0020$@com> <1317353203.46507.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52898924D0994A97A4C8E203F61BE545@Home> Message-ID: <4E8CF646.9010600@justbrits.com> << or so I've heard... >> Huuummmm, sounds like "The Voice of Experience" to me !?!?! What say you, Lester ??? From shop at justbrits.com Wed Oct 5 18:33:26 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:33:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 50th Review In-Reply-To: <87AF8730-48AA-4386-AC58-CB4FBFD6246D@gmail.com> References: <87AF8730-48AA-4386-AC58-CB4FBFD6246D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E8CF756.206@justbrits.com> << But I need Soave to build the motor. >> IMHO JD, you REALLY just need some of: "the Grasshopper School of OLD Men Driving" ! ! ! Anon ! From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 6 07:48:32 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:48:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 62 for sale Pennsylrainia Message-ID: <201110060648931.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1752070 Nice looking 62 Midget. NFI, etc. Peter C From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Oct 6 09:14:02 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 62 for sale Pennsylrainia In-Reply-To: <201110060648931.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110060648931.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <1317914042.2723.YahooMailRC@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> It is, but the biggest stumbling block in selling a Spridget like this is that it doesn't need enough work. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1752070 Nice looking 62 Midget. NFI, etc. Peter C From kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 17:56:47 2011 From: kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com (Kenneth Klemmer) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:56:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? Message-ID: Hi all, i need help diagnosing this problem. This morning while pulling away from a light, i heard a pop, and then nothing happened. Engine fine but car wouldnt go in any gear. Upon further investigation in a parking lot (good thing sprites are easily pushed) i found that the driveshaft would turn while in gear, but no power to the wheels. So after a tow home, i jacked up the car tonight, expecting a broken axle. What i found: the right wheel rotated but was tight feeling. The left did not rotate the opposite way nor did the driveshaft rotate. Went to rotate the left wheel and the driveshaft eventually turned, but a lot of play. Then went back to the right and turned it and the driveshaft began turning with that side too. It was still pretty tight. Back to the left and it now rotates the driveshaft with no play. This leads me to think my axles are intact, but i blew something in the diff. Am i correct? I assume dropping the axle (i just rebuilt the suspension, this is a 1/4 elliptical mark 1/2) is in order, but this gives me an excuse to change the rear gearing i suppose. Thanks! From aseippel at austin.rr.com Thu Oct 6 20:06:04 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:06:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <017c01cc8495$ab5d1720$02174560$@austin.rr.com> Whether or not it is the rear end, you will have to pull both half shafts (axles). Jack the car up, remove both wheels, brake drums, and both half shafts. If the half shafts (axles) are good, then it is the rear end. I am betting on the half shafts. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kenneth Klemmer Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:57 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? Hi all, i need help diagnosing this problem. This morning while pulling away from a light, i heard a pop, and then nothing happened. Engine fine but car wouldnt go in any gear. Upon further investigation in a parking lot (good thing sprites are easily pushed) i found that the driveshaft would turn while in gear, but no power to the wheels. So after a tow home, i jacked up the car tonight, expecting a broken axle. What i found: the right wheel rotated but was tight feeling. The left did not rotate the opposite way nor did the driveshaft rotate. Went to rotate the left wheel and the driveshaft eventually turned, but a lot of play. Then went back to the right and turned it and the driveshaft began turning with that side too. It was still pretty tight. Back to the left and it now rotates the driveshaft with no play. This leads me to think my axles are intact, but i blew something in the diff. Am i correct? I assume dropping the axle (i just rebuilt the suspension, this is a 1/4 elliptical mark 1/2) is in order, but this gives me an excuse to change the rear gearing i suppose. Thanks! _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 20:12:59 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:12:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Easy enough to pull the axles. If it is the diff you'll have to pull the axles to get it out. Pop sounds like axle to me. I'd say 90% chance broken axle end. From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 6 20:25:44 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:25:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Car of the Year shortlist - Telegraph Message-ID: <00b801cc8498$6b32f9a0$4198ece0$@net> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/8808725/Classic-Car-of- the-Year-shortlist.html From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 22:16:56 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 23:16:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? In-Reply-To: <017c01cc8495$ab5d1720$02174560$@austin.rr.com> References: <017c01cc8495$ab5d1720$02174560$@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: You will probably find one axle shaft broken. Remove both and use a broomstick handle to push out the broken piece. From kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 03:24:47 2011 From: kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com (Kenneth Klemmer) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 05:24:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? Thanks!! In-Reply-To: References: <017c01cc8495$ab5d1720$02174560$@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <85FB705E-14C2-45A0-BF12-A47E5F4C7E88@gmail.com> Thanks everyone for the great responses! i'll put Mr. Powers under anesthetic next week, open him up and see what i find. Then i will let you all know. I'm actually looking forward to the job, ive only worked on model T differentials so far. Ken Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:16 AM, derf wrote: > You will probably find one axle shaft broken. Remove both and use a > broomstick handle to push out the broken piece. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 07:58:42 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:58:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Car of the Year shortlist - Telegraph In-Reply-To: <00b801cc8498$6b32f9a0$4198ece0$@net> References: <00b801cc8498$6b32f9a0$4198ece0$@net> Message-ID: Thanks, Bob. It makes you think about how many great cars are out there. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Robert Evans wrote: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/8808725/Classic-Car-of- > the-Year-shortlist.html > _______________________________________________ From kentmclean at comcast.net Fri Oct 7 10:14:13 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:14:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gordon Murray designs an electric sportscar Message-ID: <4E8F2555.7070400@comcast.net> From Gizmag: "Now his design consultancy has created an electric sportscar. Its power and weight are remarkably similar to icons of a bygone era, such as the Austin Healey Sprite, Triumph Spitfire and MG Midget," He designed the McLaren F1, among other efforts. You know it's gonna be good. But the big questions are, "When?" and "How much?" More here: -- Kent McLean Austin-Healey 100 BN2 From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 7 13:33:08 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed Message-ID: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I picked up a load of books from the library and am selling them on eBay. One is the factory manual for a 1980 210. I have scanned as .PDF the entire chapter on the 5 speed repair and testing model FS5W60A. Someone should host this, I think. 11.9 Mb in pdf Gerard ? Seth ? Peter C From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Fri Oct 7 16:01:51 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:01:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <201110072202.p97M28j4026369@mail.usimperio.com> Peter, could you send me a copy. I just installed a 5 speed in a customers car the past two days. He had no idea of the condition of the trans. Seems the syncros are bad in 1,2,3,and 4 and are going to need replaced and I'll probably wind up with the job. I've thought about installing one of these in my Morris van but after this job I've come to the conclusion that I don't want the headaches. This was a Rivergate kit the customer had and an unknown (condition) trans. $1600 + labor just doesn't float my boat, when a 3.7 diff would do about the same thing, so I can't shift into first while I'm moving, no big deal. If you would like I could post it on our clubs site since I'm the webmaster. http://www.brrta.org Dave At 03:33 PM 10/7/2011, you wrote: >I picked up a load of books from the library and am selling them on >eBay. One is the factory manual for a 1980 210. I have scanned as >.PDF the entire chapter on the 5 speed repair and testing model FS5W60A. > >Someone should host this, I think. 11.9 Mb in pdf > >Gerard ? Seth ? > >Peter C From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Oct 7 16:33:02 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 18:33:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gordon Murray designs an electric sportscar In-Reply-To: <4E8F2555.7070400@comcast.net> References: <4E8F2555.7070400@comcast.net> Message-ID: <279B0D56499D4862A30198407A68F630@blackbox2> No. The Big question is..."Why is it so ugly?" Maybe it's just me... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kent McLean Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:14 PM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Gordon Murray designs an electric sportscar From Gizmag: "Now his design consultancy has created an electric sportscar. Its power and weight are remarkably similar to icons of a bygone era, such as the Austin Healey Sprite, Triumph Spitfire and MG Midget," He designed the McLaren F1, among other efforts. You know it's gonna be good. But the big questions are, "When?" and "How much?" More here: -- Kent McLean Austin-Healey 100 BN2 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Fri Oct 7 17:05:58 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:05:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4E8F85D6.6040706@justbrits.com> << Someone should host this, I think. >> NO prob, PPP !! Send it. G. has room (last I chatted with him) also ! ! ! WHO is 'Seth" ?!?!?! From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Oct 7 17:30:49 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: <201110072202.p97M28j4026369@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <1318030249.30576.YahooMailClassic@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Just an FYI. I bought a "rebuilt" Datsun 210 trans from Paul while he was still running the business. He rebuilt it with aftermarket synchros. I have trouble putting it into gear and it grinds going into 3rd. It also pops out of 3rd if you just touch the gear shift while driving in that gear. At the time I complained to Paul. He said the aftermarket syncros were machined incorrectly, most likely at an incorrect angle. He sent me the best set of used syncros he had from the many transmissions he had rebuilt for other customers. I have yet to pull it out and replace them, but I will if and when I have the time. Just be careful of what you buy. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Fri, 10/7/11, Dave Yealy wrote: From: Dave Yealy Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, October 7, 2011, 10:01 PM Peter, could you send me a copy. I just installed a 5 speed in a customers car the past two days. He had no idea of the condition of the trans. Seems the syncros are bad in 1,2,3,and 4 and are going to need replaced and I'll probably wind up with the job. I've thought about installing one of these in my Morris van but after this job I've come to the conclusion that I don't want the headaches. This was a Rivergate kit the customer had and an unknown (condition) trans. $1600 + labor just doesn't float my boat, when a 3.7 diff would do about the same thing, so I can't shift into first while I'm moving, no big deal. If you would like I could post it on our clubs site since I'm the webmaster. http://www.brrta.org Dave From dwramsey at att.net Fri Oct 7 18:11:26 2011 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: <201110072202.p97M28j4026369@mail.usimperio.com> References: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <201110072202.p97M28j4026369@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <1318032686.73460.YahooMailRC@web180514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> While I can agree that the syncro first gear is "no big deal" it is nice. however it is the fifth gear overdrive that is a big deal and the 3.7 diff isn't even close. It makes me wonder what kind of gear oil was used? Crash ________________________________ This was a Rivergate kit the customer had and an unknown (condition) trans. $1600 + labor just doesn't float my boat, when a 3.7 diff would do about the same thing, so I can't shift into first while I'm moving, no big deal. If you would like I could post it on our clubs site since I'm the webmaster. http://www.brrta.org Dave From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Oct 7 18:57:17 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:57:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: <201110072202.p97M28j4026369@mail.usimperio.com> References: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <201110072202.p97M28j4026369@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: Dave, make sure you have the right gear oil in the trans. I thought my 1-2 2-3 synchros were bad until I put RedLine MT-90 in. Most modern gear oils are designed for differentials and are no good in this tranny. You might have had Rivergate rebuild the trans. They don't charge very much for it. I think it was something like $180 at the time I did mine. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Yealy Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 6:02 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed Peter, could you send me a copy. I just installed a 5 speed in a customers car the past two days. He had no idea of the condition of the trans. Seems the syncros are bad in 1,2,3,and 4 and are going to need replaced and I'll probably wind up with the job. I've thought about installing one of these in my Morris van but after this job I've come to the conclusion that I don't want the headaches. This was a Rivergate kit the customer had and an unknown (condition) trans. $1600 + labor just doesn't float my boat, when a 3.7 diff would do about the same thing, so I can't shift into first while I'm moving, no big deal. If you would like I could post it on our clubs site since I'm the webmaster. http://www.brrta.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Oct 7 21:03:41 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 03:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really In-Reply-To: <544762406.288060.1318042789724.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1542654498.288084.1318043021209.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> My Morris doesn't have a water temp gauge. The 948 head doesn't have a place for a sensor. And no fitting in the radiator header tank. Summer temps here typically are in the 100+ mark for about 6 to 10 weeks! Does anybody have a spare thermostat housing which has the threaded hole to take a water temp gauge sensor? (original part number 10m-220 (I think!) Thanks. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sat Oct 8 03:28:57 2011 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 02:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] the good old days Message-ID: <1318066137.87845.YahooMailMobile@web114701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> vintage carnage. Safety has come a long way.. Andy http://devour.com/video/vintage-race-car-crashes/ From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Oct 8 07:35:53 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 06:35:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really In-Reply-To: <1542654498.288084.1318043021209.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <544762406.288060.1318042789724.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <1542654498.288084.1318043021209.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Dave It might be more realistic to have the radiator rigged to allow a water temp gauge. BillM > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 03:03:41 +0000 > From: kk7ss at frontier.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really > > My Morris doesn't have a water temp gauge. > The 948 head doesn't have a place for a sensor. > And no fitting in the radiator header tank. > Summer temps here typically are in the 100+ mark for about 6 to 10 weeks! > Does anybody have a spare thermostat housing which has the threaded hole to take a water temp gauge sensor? > (original part number 10m-220 (I think!) > > Thanks. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From pvanwig at me.com Sat Oct 8 08:11:19 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 07:11:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really In-Reply-To: <1542654498.288084.1318043021209.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1542654498.288084.1318043021209.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1679C2A2-B945-43D6-863D-91FA6357BFB3@me.com> Dave if your head does not have a screw plug on the right side of the thermostat cavity, you can add a "tee in your heater return to the radiator. Oct 7, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: My Morris doesn't have a water temp gauge. The 948 head doesn't have a place for a sensor. And no fitting in the radiator header tank. Summer temps here typically are in the 100+ mark for about 6 to 10 weeks! Does anybody have a spare thermostat housing which has the threaded hole to take a water temp gauge sensor? (original part number 10m-220 (I think!) Thanks. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear, CA pvanwig at me dot com 60 Bugeye 60 Minor Woody 59 Nash Metropolitan (the Wife's ride) From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Oct 8 09:03:39 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1940919310.290192.1318086219739.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Two things.. First, as most of you will know, I got the wrong part number! But I have seen pictures of them - so I know they used to exist. Second, I was going to have the radiator 'plumbed' with a fitting. But when I went to our local radiator shop that did radiator rebuilds, there was a notice that said 'Business Closed' :-( I hope he doesn't mean for good! Meanwhile I'll check around for another with a good reputation! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Bill Masquelier" wrote: > Dave > It might be more realistic to have the radiator rigged to allow a > water temp gauge. > BillM From mdmyersct at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 09:54:29 2011 From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (Michael Myers) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:54:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really In-Reply-To: <1679C2A2-B945-43D6-863D-91FA6357BFB3@me.com> References: <1542654498.288084.1318043021209.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1679C2A2-B945-43D6-863D-91FA6357BFB3@me.com> Message-ID: Not sure a temp reading from the heater return line would be a good idea - too far removed from the actual engine water temp so it would always read much lower. Mike Myers From lists at woozy.com Sat Oct 8 10:02:58 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:02:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring to coil & distributor Message-ID: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> I'm trying to replace my old distributor which had a Crane electronic ignition with a distributor with points. Can anyone refresh my memory of what the wiring to the coil and the distributor should be for the standard points setup? Thanks, Robert From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sat Oct 8 12:27:33 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:27:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring to coil & distributor In-Reply-To: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> References: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> Message-ID: <022701cc85e7$f23bb2c0$d6b31840$@austin.rr.com> With a positive ground car: You have - coming from the ignition switch to the switched side of the fusebox. You will have a white wire from the other side of that fuse to the - terminal of the coil. From the + terminal of the coil, you have a white wire with a black tracer that connects to the low voltage terminal on the distributor. If your car has been converted to negative ground. The wiring is the same. You have to reverse the positive and negative sides of the coil. If you are purchasing a new coil, be sure to buy one that does not need an external ballast resistor. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 11:03 AM To: spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring to coil & distributor I'm trying to replace my old distributor which had a Crane electronic ignition with a distributor with points. Can anyone refresh my memory of what the wiring to the coil and the distributor should be for the standard points setup? Thanks, Robert From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sat Oct 8 12:29:49 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:29:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really In-Reply-To: References: <1542654498.288084.1318043021209.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1679C2A2-B945-43D6-863D-91FA6357BFB3@me.com> Message-ID: <022801cc85e8$4352f9c0$c9f8ed40$@austin.rr.com> I believe that if the water valve on the heater was turned off, you would have a much lower reading than the rest of the cooling system. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Myers Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 10:54 AM To: Paul Van Wig Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sorta OT but not really Not sure a temp reading from the heater return line would be a good idea - too far removed from the actual engine water temp so it would always read much lower. Mike Myers From frog.aye at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 12:42:40 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:42:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring to coil & distributor In-Reply-To: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> References: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> Message-ID: Why would you want to do a thing like that? But it should be 12v to coil, coil to dist. the points will complete the circuit and ground the coil for the dwell time. Which coil terminal to battery and which to dist will depend on whether your car has positive or negative earth. Hal On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Robert Weeks wrote: > I'm trying to replace my old distributor which had a Crane electronic > ignition with a distributor with points. Can anyone refresh my memory of > what the wiring to the coil and the distributor should be for the standard > points setup? > > Thanks, > > Robert > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/frog.aye@**gmail.com From peter at nosimport.com Sat Oct 8 13:02:39 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:02:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring to coil & distributor In-Reply-To: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> References: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> Message-ID: <201110081202836.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Long time since we've heard from you. 1 wire from the coil terminal that matches the car's ground to the low tension terminal on the distributor which then is connected to the points. Simple. Peter C - At 11:02 AM 10/8/2011, you wrote: >I'm trying to replace my old distributor which had a Crane >electronic ignition with a distributor with points. Can anyone >refresh my memory of what the wiring to the coil and the distributor >should be for the standard points setup? > >Thanks, > >Robert From lists at woozy.com Sat Oct 8 14:46:31 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:46:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring to coil & distributor In-Reply-To: <201110081202836.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <4E907432.3090107@woozy.com> <201110081202836.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4E90B6A7.3080106@woozy.com> Thanks everyone, I'm at my wit's end with this car. I haven't driven it in several years and am trying to get it back on the road. First I drained the old gas and replaced the dead gas pump. The car battery was dead and wouldn't take a charge so I replaced that. Got the engine started and adjusted the carbs but it was running rough. Took off the distributor cap and noticed that the distributor shaft had a lot of play, not side to side but in and out about 3/8" . The shutter from the Crane ignition was sliding around because of all the play in the distributor shaft. Replaced that distributor. Tried to get it running with the points but no spark. Put the Crane bits in the new distributor and now I have spark and can static time it with the Crane diagnostic light but still can't get it to start. Have spark, have gas. Getting ready to sell the car to the first person who comes by and offers me something for it ;-) Robert On 10/8/2011 3:02 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Long time since we've heard from you. > > 1 wire from the coil terminal that matches the car's ground to the low > tension terminal on the distributor which then is connected to the > points. Simple. > Peter C From lmacy at mac.com Sat Oct 8 19:07:33 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:07:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Woo Hooo Message-ID: I got to deive the Blue Phoenix to the Philly MG Club show at Lahaska PA today. What a showing, 185 cars. We had 80 pre-registered. See what happens when the weather is great in Oct?? Anyway, I was first on the field, we had decided to honor the Midget for the 50th. By the time the voting was donbe I got second. Well, second to a really nice car. Part of that is the Blue Phoenix is not quite finished. I need to wet sand and buff the paint, then add all the badges and paraphrenalia to the body, and the steering wheel needs a refinish. But it sure felt good to get my car to the show and pull out a second only a week after getting legal!! Oh Kristi won something (2nd or 3rd) and Lambert got Diamond in the Rough ;-) The whole family went home with something. Except me, I left my plaque at the show. (Actually I was handing them out, I suspect I handed it to the next 2nd place car). Nice cruise home down River Road and the first "official" outing of the Blue Phoenix is done. Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 8 19:57:11 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:57:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Woo Hooo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CEEA5AC3651439FAAEDB225AB81E316@HomePC> Congrats, Larry. Well done! -----Original Message----- From: Macy Larry Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:07 PM To: Spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] Woo Hooo I got to deive the Blue Phoenix to the Philly MG Club show at Lahaska PA today. What a showing, 185 cars. We had 80 pre-registered. See what happens when the weather is great in Oct?? Anyway, I was first on the field, we had decided to honor the Midget for the 50th. By the time the voting was donbe I got second. Well, second to a really nice car. Part of that is the Blue Phoenix is not quite finished. I need to wet sand and buff the paint, then add all the badges and paraphrenalia to the body, and the steering wheel needs a refinish. But it sure felt good to get my car to the show and pull out a second only a week after getting legal!! Oh Kristi won something (2nd or 3rd) and Lambert got Diamond in the Rough ;-) The whole family went home with something. Except me, I left my plaque at the show. (Actually I was handing them out, I suspect I handed it to the next 2nd place car). Nice cruise home down River Road and the first "official" outing of the Blue Phoenix is done. Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From bkitterer at me.com Sat Oct 8 21:15:21 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:15:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: All replies considered void. Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sat Oct 8 22:59:49 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 21:59:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peter, I'll be happy to host this in my Tech section. Please send it along. Thanks Gerard On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:08 -0500 > From: Peter Caldwell > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed > Message-ID: <201110071233607.SM01424 at TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I picked up a load of books from the library and am selling them on > eBay. One is the factory manual for a 1980 210. I have scanned as > .PDF the entire chapter on the 5 speed repair and testing model > FS5W60A. > > Someone should host this, I think. 11.9 Mb in pdf > > Gerard ? Seth ? > > Peter C From lmacy at mac.com Sun Oct 9 05:01:57 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 07:01:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? In-Reply-To: References: <017c01cc8495$ab5d1720$02174560$@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: I had this happen once before. Frank was convinced it was a half shaft. But he gave me a diff pumpkin anyway. I was right, it was the diff. Half shafts were fine. I suspect, but only have experiential evidence, that when they stuck the 1500 in the cars, they hardened the half shafts. Evidence: 2 1500's (76 & 78), 0 broken half shafts, 2 broken diff pumpkins, 100,000+ miles. Or maybe they made the diff weaker ;-) Larry On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:16 AM, derf wrote: > You will probably find one axle shaft broken. Remove both and use a > broomstick handle to push out the broken piece. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 From lmacy at mac.com Sun Oct 9 06:23:11 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 08:23:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07A9898B-A27C-4867-AB25-1E30573A93FC@mac.com> Hmm, i thought all test messages were considered void. On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > All replies considered void. > > Bob Kitterer and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. Dorothy Parker From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 9 07:14:37 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 06:14:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <07A9898B-A27C-4867-AB25-1E30573A93FC@mac.com> References: <07A9898B-A27C-4867-AB25-1E30573A93FC@mac.com> Message-ID: <6A931CD4DCB3486DAC63B20DF7A0DDD5@spider> This is a really good site. There are sites that would call this Spam, and kick you off forever. Don't ask me how I know ...but it was a toity Mercedes site. ...bill in corvallis ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Macy Larry Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 5:23 AM To: Kitterer Bob Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Test Hmm, i thought all test messages were considered void. ====================================================== On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > All replies considered void. > > Bob Kitterer and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. Dorothy Parker Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sun Oct 9 07:16:14 2011 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:16:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Test Message-ID: <8113BF199820414DA4D8F8311C39F3CF@HomeComputer> So all this studying for nothing?!? -----Original Message----- Hmm, i thought all test messages were considered void. On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > All replies considered void. > > Bob Kitterer and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Oct 9 07:20:50 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 06:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Woo Hooo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1318166450.73732.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Congrats, Larry. Now get back to work and finish the Phoenix off so you can grab a first place next time out. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 10/8/11, Macy Larry wrote: From: Macy Larry Subject: [Spridgets] Woo Hooo To: "Spridgets net" Date: Saturday, October 8, 2011, 9:07 PM I got to deive the Blue Phoenix to the Philly MG Club show at Lahaska PA today. What a showing, 185 cars. We had 80 pre-registered. See what happens when the weather is great in Oct?? Anyway, I was first on the field, we had decided to honor the Midget for the 50th. By the time the voting was donbe I got second. Well, second to a really nice car. Part of that is the Blue Phoenix is not quite finished. I need to wet sand and buff the paint, then add all the badges and paraphrenalia to the body, and the steering wheel needs a refinish. But it sure felt good to get my car to the show and pull out a second only a week after getting legal!! Oh Kristi won something (2nd or 3rd) and Lambert got Diamond in the Rough ;-) The whole family went home with something. Except me, I left my plaque at the show. (Actually I was handing them out, I suspect I handed it to the next 2nd place car). Nice cruise home down River Road and the first "official" outing of the Blue Phoenix is done. Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From stargazer1 at cox.net Sun Oct 9 08:31:37 2011 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 07:31:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? In-Reply-To: References: <017c01cc8495$ab5d1720$02174560$@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <4E91B049.4010506@cox.net> Someone was told to reduce the number of broken half-shafts they were getting under warranty. So, they made the diff weaker. It breaks first thus protecting the half-shafts. On 10/9/2011 4:01 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > I had this happen once before. Frank was convinced it was a half shaft. But he gave me a diff pumpkin anyway. I was right, it was the diff. Half shafts were fine. I suspect, but only have experiential evidence, that when they stuck the 1500 in the cars, they hardened the half shafts. > > Evidence: 2 1500's (76& 78), 0 broken half shafts, 2 broken diff pumpkins, 100,000+ miles. > > Or maybe they made the diff weaker ;-) > > Larry > > On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:16 AM, derf wrote: > >> You will probably find one axle shaft broken. Remove both and use a >> broomstick handle to push out the broken piece. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 10:55:32 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:55:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I have a 792Kb pdf on the trans, pages marked MT-3 to MT-15, 13 pages total. It has exploded views and instructions with illustrations, Disassembly, Inspection, Assembly. I've had it for a while and shared it with more than a few people. I can email it to whomever wants. I think I may have already sent it to Ed for hosting on his site but maybe not. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 12:35:12 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] facet pump problem Message-ID: List, I finished installing my facet pump and I am not getting fuel out the other end. I blew the line with my air compressor both coming from the rear and also blowing to the tank (via split line, yes I removed the gas cap) and all I see in the plastic fuel filter are bubbles of fuel, not a solid bowl of fuel. I checked to that the clamps are tight and other than a clog in the tank I have no idea what could be wrong. Although being I blew air to the tank and I can hear the air in the tank I have no idea. What is wrong. I am just about ready to give up and have my mechanic pick up the car and fix it. Pump looks like the one below. Lin http://www.motorsport-tools.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=250547 From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Oct 9 12:40:28 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:40:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: for those of you who missed it on Facebook: Pendulum Waves In-Reply-To: <4E91E99E.7050503@wi.net> References: <4E91E99E.7050503@wi.net> Message-ID: <4E91EA9C.3090504@wi.net> Can we relate this to resonant frequency on our LBC's?? (made up LBC content) :-) Had to forward this. For you physicists and engineers out there Enjoy! Dave W. Subject: *Pendulum Waves* You may recall from a Mechanics course that the period of a pendulum is proportional to the square root of the length of the line suspending the weight - i.e., the longer the pendulum, the slower it swings. Harvard students built a device with a series of 15 pendulums in a row, each one slightly longer than its neighbor, then set them in motion and filmed the result. The resulting patterns in this short video are quite fascinating to watch. Read the article before starting to watch the video. If clicking on this short link doesn't work, the full version of the link if further down in this message. *Pendulum Waves* This is a VERY long hyperlink and you may have to copy the whole thing off two lines and paste it into your browser if it doesn't work as a simple link on your incoming message. http://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k16940&pageid=icb.page80863&pageContentId=icb.pagecontent341734&state=maximize&view=view.do&viewParam_name=indepth.html#a_icb_pagecontent341734 From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 9 14:33:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] FW: for those of you who missed it on Facebook: Pendulum Waves In-Reply-To: <4E91EA9C.3090504@wi.net> Message-ID: <1928422373.298466.1318192389624.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I remember watching a slo-mo video of a Jag XK150 coming into the grandstand straight at Brands Hatch at full chat. The rippling of the hood(bonnet) just plain scared me! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 9 14:35:34 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] facet pump problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <738238392.298480.1318192534467.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> You say the lines are clear. So, first thing to do is to check to see if you're getting fuel out of the pump! If not, and if it's a DC pump, you might have it wired backwards. Otherwise, did you check that the input end is connected to the tank outlet? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Linda Grunthaner" wrote: > List, > > I finished installing my facet pump and I am not getting fuel out the > other > > end. I blew the line with my air compressor both coming from the rear > and > > also blowing to the tank (via split line, yes I removed the gas cap) > and all > > I see in the plastic fuel filter are bubbles of fuel, not a solid bowl > of > > fuel. I checked to that the clamps are tight and other than a clog in > the > > tank I have no idea what could be wrong. Although being I blew air to > the > > tank and I can hear the air in the tank I have no idea. What is wrong. > I am > > just about ready to give up and have my mechanic pick up the car and > fix it. > > > > Pump looks like the one below. > > Lin > > > > http://www.motorsport-tools.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=250547 From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 15:08:01 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:08:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Lives : ) : ) : ) : ) Message-ID: List, I must have accidentally put the pump in backwards when I ran out to get longer bolts. I figured it out when I ran the line to a gas can and it wasn't pumping then noticed it was backwards. Finally she is running but I need new registration before I take her on the road. Glad to have her off jack stands and at least driving up & down the driveway ; ) I was thinking WWFD regarding the pump to gas can and found the problem before I got back on-line to check for replys. Thanks everyone for your help and as always thank you Frank for sprinkling a little wisdom down from heaven. Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 15:11:11 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:11:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: List, I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch & brake master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do I use Girling Brake fluid? Thanks Lin From kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 15:12:25 2011 From: kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com (Kenneth Klemmer) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:12:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! Message-ID: As most suspected, the half shaft was broken on the spline end, very close to the ends of the spline and tapering to a point towards the center of the shaft. The other shaft looks fine and has .1575 splines, which seems good, but it is also one of the bta501 series, which seem to get a bad reputation. The shaft that broke is a stange number 2a7085. Should i just replace both? So far i have not been successful getting the broken end out using a rod, but i think at this point i'm going to pull the diff anyway to make sure its clean, then remove the broken piece. There was a lot of metal debris stuck to the end of the broken shaft. I also have a diff oil leak at the nose shaft seal, although this may be due to overfilling because ive had the car raised and angled prob 10 degrees when filling the rear end. Is this seal easier to renew while the diff is removed from the axle housing? The manual advises using the handbrake to hold the diff when removing the prop shaft nut, necessitating it being in the car and assembled. Thanks for the advice! Ken From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 9 16:26:53 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 15:26:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] facet pump problem In-Reply-To: <738238392.298480.1318192534467.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <738238392.298480.1318192534467.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <52493D60732044BEB7254D45E00C7B94@spider> Some pumps need to be primed. Put a little gas into the inlet. There is usually a direction of flow written on the pump also. ...bill in corvallis =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:36 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] facet pump problem You say the lines are clear. So, first thing to do is to check to see if you're getting fuel out of the pump! If not, and if it's a DC pump, you might have it wired backwards. Otherwise, did you check that the input end is connected to the tank outlet? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Linda Grunthaner" wrote: > List, > > I finished installing my facet pump and I am not getting fuel out the > other > > end. I blew the line with my air compressor both coming from the rear > and > > also blowing to the tank (via split line, yes I removed the gas cap) > and all > > I see in the plastic fuel filter are bubbles of fuel, not a solid bowl > of > > fuel. I checked to that the clamps are tight and other than a clog in > the > > tank I have no idea what could be wrong. Although being I blew air to > the > > tank and I can hear the air in the tank I have no idea. What is wrong. > I am > > just about ready to give up and have my mechanic pick up the car and > fix it. > > > > Pump looks like the one below. > > Lin > > > > http://www.motorsport-tools.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=250547 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 9 16:28:33 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 15:28:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The purists prefer Girling. I just use any DOT3. ...bill in corvallis ======================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 2:11 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? List, I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch & brake master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do I use Girling Brake fluid? Thanks Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Oct 9 16:40:27 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 15:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] facet pump problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1721187436.20111009154027@pacifier.com> Hello Linda, My fuel filter bowl is almost NEVER full, but the car runs fine. Don't look to see the filter fill up, look to see if fuel is coming out of it. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Make a difference in the world today: Subtract From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Oct 9 16:53:35 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:53:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001301cc86d6$46e38160$d4aa8420$@rr.com> Pull the diff and get all the pieces out. There was a lot of crud in mine. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kenneth Klemmer Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 4:12 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! As most suspected, the half shaft was broken on the spline end, very close to the ends of the spline and tapering to a point towards the center of the shaft. The other shaft looks fine and has .1575 splines, which seems good, but it is also one of the bta501 series, which seem to get a bad reputation. The shaft that broke is a stange number 2a7085. Should i just replace both? So far i have not been successful getting the broken end out using a rod, but i think at this point i'm going to pull the diff anyway to make sure its clean, then remove the broken piece. There was a lot of metal debris stuck to the end of the broken shaft. I also have a diff oil leak at the nose shaft seal, although this may be due to overfilling because ive had the car raised and angled prob 10 degrees when filling the rear end. Is this seal easier to renew while the diff is removed from the axle housing? The manual advises using the handbrake to hold the diff when removing the prop shaft nut, necessitating it being in the car and assembled. Thanks for the advice! Ken From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Oct 9 17:05:37 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 23:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Lives : ) : ) : ) : ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <359864835.447140.1318201537715.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Linda its jersey! you can probably drive the length of the state before someone catches on thatB P inky's inspection was last done '72 Congrats and welcome to the drivers club Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:08:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Lives : ) : ) : ) : ) List, I must have accidentally put the pump in backwards when I ran out to get longer bolts. I figured it out when I ran the line to a gas can and it wasn't pumping then noticed it was backwards. Finally she is running but I need new registration before I take her on the road. Glad to have her off jack stands and at least driving up & down the driveway ; ) I was thinking WWFD regarding the pump to gas can and found the problem before I got back on-line to check for replys. Thanks everyone for your help and as always thank you Frank for sprinkling a little wisdom down from heaven. Lin Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Oct 9 17:28:01 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:28:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> Use Castrol LMA. Sent from my keyboard On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch & brake > master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do I use > Girling Brake fluid? > Thanks Lin From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Oct 9 18:02:24 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:02:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel Message-ID: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> Younger Daughter ended up with a time crunch and had to buy a 2003 VW Passat from a friend because it was available immediately - not the car she would normally consider. It has a fancy engine and wants premium gas. Will regular gas do damage if she does not drive the car hard? Should the timing be adjusted? Michael Rowe From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 18:31:05 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:31:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210 5-speed In-Reply-To: References: <201110071233607.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: OK, I think I got it out to everyone who requested. Sorry if I sent it to anyone twice. If you didn't get it, shoot me an email and I'll send it. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Oct 9 18:42:28 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:42:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <491792975373494284EAA9EEE001AAB6@blackbox2> I've replaced the pinion seal with the diff removed several times. I just put the input flange in the vice and crack the big nut loose with a 1/2" drive socket with a breaker bar. Pry out the old seal and apply a little grease or oil to the perimeter of the new seal and tap it in. Retighten the big nut to torque spec and away you go. Oh yeah, make sure you inspect the surface where the seal rides on the pinion shaft to ensure that it is not too worn. Also, in each instance when I've done this job, I've taken the time & effort to clean, strip, and repaint the front diff housing. It is inevitably a mess from the leak. One question Ken - Do you have disc or wire wheels? -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Klemmer Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! As most suspected, the half shaft was broken on the spline end, very close to the ends of the spline and tapering to a point towards the center of the shaft. The other shaft looks fine and has .1575 splines, which seems good, but it is also one of the bta501 series, which seem to get a bad reputation. The shaft that broke is a stange number 2a7085. Should i just replace both? So far i have not been successful getting the broken end out using a rod, but i think at this point i'm going to pull the diff anyway to make sure its clean, then remove the broken piece. There was a lot of metal debris stuck to the end of the broken shaft. I also have a diff oil leak at the nose shaft seal, although this may be due to overfilling because ive had the car raised and angled prob 10 degrees when filling the rear end. Is this seal easier to renew while the diff is removed from the axle housing? The manual advises using the handbrake to hold the diff when removing the prop shaft nut, necessitating it being in the car and assembled. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 9 19:00:25 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1173389228.300813.1318208425867.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> This "purist" has used Castrol LMA since he was 16! (And I'm not telling!) -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > The purists prefer Girling. I just use any DOT3. ...bill in corvallis > > ======================================== From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 9 19:23:19 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> Message-ID: <1910753003.301021.1318209799096.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I think it may have an ECM? If so, you might be able to re-chip it to take regular! Retarding the timing will probably not be an iption if it does have an ECM. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Michael Rowe" wrote: > Younger Daughter ended up with a time crunch and had to buy a 2003 VW > Passat from a friend because it was available immediately - not the > car she would normally consider. It has a fancy engine and wants > premium gas. Will regular gas do damage if she does not drive the car > hard? Should the timing be adjusted? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 19:41:44 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:41:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Castrol GTLMA DOT FOUR!! On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Use Castrol LMA. > > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > List, > > I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch & > brake > > master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do I > use > > Girling Brake fluid? > > Thanks Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Oct 9 19:48:41 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:48:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> Message-ID: <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> Here in Michigan premium gas is 20 cents a gallon more than regular. A ten gallon tank bone dry costs $2 more to fill with premium than with regular. Skip one cup of Starbucks coffee every few days and your covered. If you're driving 500 miles a day it might make a difference, but for most people the extra cost is not worth considering. Just my 2 cents, Rick (with three vehicles that require premium) Sent from my keyboard On Oct 9, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Younger Daughter ended up with a time crunch and had to buy a 2003 VW Passat from a friend because it was available immediately - not the car she would normally consider. It has a fancy engine and wants premium gas. Will regular gas do damage if she does not drive the car hard? Should the timing be adjusted? > > Michael Rowe From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Oct 9 19:59:31 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 18:59:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> Message-ID: <1091875019.20111009185931@pacifier.com> Hello Michael, I just checked and this car IS equipped with a knock sensor. It will automatically adjust the timing when it senses regular gas. a side note is that the fuel economy will most likely suffer by almost exactly the amount or MORE than the cost of putting in premium. .. that is if premium costs 5% more, the fuel economy will suffer by at least 5% by using regular gas...... do your own tests though YMMV -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Help stamp out philatelists. From frog.aye at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 20:40:55 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When the left half shaft on FROG AYE was broken, I had to pull the differential also, good excuse to clean 40+ years of road grime off the axle (think of all the unsprung weight I've saved!!) My local LBC mechanic helped me pull the diff apart to get the piece out, I don't think he was even going to charge me, but I asked and he said $18. Being as I love to make "special tools" I made a tool to hold the flange while turning the prop nut. Just a long (2 ft or so) piece of steel with holes drilled to mate up to the flange. IIRC the torque required is in the neighborhood of 140 lb-ft, so you do need a fairly stout tool and a reasonable amount of leverage. The rear flange from a dead drive shaft can also be modified to make a very useful tool to set the bearing pre-load. If you want more info let me know. Hal On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Klemmer wrote: > As most suspected, the half shaft was broken on the spline end, very close > to > the ends of the spline and tapering to a point towards the center of the > shaft. The other shaft looks fine and has .1575 splines, which seems good, > but it is also one of the bta501 series, which seem to get a bad > reputation. > The shaft that broke is a stange number 2a7085. > Should i just replace both? > > So far i have not been successful getting the broken end out using a rod, > but > i think at this point i'm going to pull the diff anyway to make sure its > clean, then remove the broken piece. There was a lot of metal debris stuck > to > the end of the broken shaft. > > I also have a diff oil leak at the nose shaft seal, although this may be > due > to overfilling because ive had the car raised and angled prob 10 degrees > when > filling the rear end. Is this seal easier to renew while the diff is > removed > from the axle housing? The manual advises using the handbrake to hold the > diff > when removing the prop shaft nut, necessitating it being in the car and > assembled. > > Thanks for the advice! > Ken > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 9 21:47:30 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> Message-ID: <1318218450.8760.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Had a hotrod VW Corrado a few years back that my wife once put regular in (thinking that I had been wasting money by putting premium in). I was afraid I would hole a piston the way the thing pinged. Went straight to buy some octane boost and took it very easy till I could burn enough up to add premium again. The fact that this was a supercharged car probably exaggerated the need for higher octane, but I'd recommend putting in the right stuff. You can say she'll drive it easy, but there will eventually come a time when she pulls out and sees that traffic is actually coming faster than she thought and she'll nail it. Bet she'll want the good stuff then. - David ________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 23:24:07 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:24:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: for those of you who missed it on Facebook: Pendulum Waves In-Reply-To: <4E91EA9C.3090504@wi.net> References: <4E91E99E.7050503@wi.net> <4E91EA9C.3090504@wi.net> Message-ID: Thank you, Dave! Fascinating. The transition from orderly Newtonian motions to what appears to be pure chaotic randomness and then back to predictability is amazing. I need to study this some more! Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Woerpel wrote: > Can we relate this to resonant frequency on our LBC's?? (made up LBC > content) :-) > > > Had to forward this. For you physicists and engineers out there > Enjoy! > Dave W. > > Subject: *Pendulum Waves* > < > http://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k16940&pageid=icb.page80863&pageContentId=icb.pagecontent341734&state=maximize&view=view.do&viewParam_name=indepth.html#a_icb_pagecontent341734 > > > > > You may recall from a Mechanics course that the period of a pendulum is > proportional to the square root of the length of the line suspending the > weight - i.e., the longer the pendulum, the slower it swings. > > Harvard students built a device with a series of 15 pendulums in a row, > each one slightly longer than its neighbor, then set them in motion and > filmed the result. > > The resulting patterns in this short video are quite fascinating to watch. > > Read the article before starting to watch the video. > > If clicking on this short link doesn't work, the full version of the > link if further down in this message. > > *Pendulum Waves* > < > http://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k16940&pageid=icb.page80863&pageContentId=icb.pagecontent341734&state=maximize&view=view.do&viewParam_name=indepth.html#a_icb_pagecontent341734 > > > > This is a VERY long hyperlink and you may have to copy the whole thing > off two lines and paste it into your browser if it doesn't work as a > simple link on your incoming message. > > > http://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k16940&pageid=icb.page80863&pageContentId=icb.pagecontent341734&state=maximize&view=view.do&viewParam_name=indepth.html#a_icb_pagecontent341734 > < > http://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k16940&pageid=icb.page80863&pageContentId=icb.pagecontent341734&state=maximize&view=view.do&viewParam_name=indepth.html#a_icb_pagecontent341734 > > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 03:28:38 2011 From: kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com (kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:28:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! Message-ID: Good to know Dean, I was thinking of the same approach. I'm a compulsive painter too (lol) I'm going to get this car repainted one piece at a time! These are standard disc wheels, fyi. Why? Ken ------Original Message------ From: Dean Hedin To: Kenneth Klemmer To: 'Spridgets' Subject: RE: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! Sent: Oct 9, 2011 20:42 I've replaced the pinion seal with the diff removed several times. I just put the input flange in the vice and crack the big nut loose with a 1/2" drive socket with a breaker bar. Pry out the old seal and apply a little grease or oil to the perimeter of the new seal and tap it in. Retighten the big nut to torque spec and away you go. Oh yeah, make sure you inspect the surface where the seal rides on the pinion shaft to ensure that it is not too worn. Also, in each instance when I've done this job, I've taken the time & effort to clean, strip, and repaint the front diff housing. It is inevitably a mess from the leak. One question Ken - Do you have disc or wire wheels? -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Klemmer Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! As most suspected, the half shaft was broken on the spline end, very close to the ends of the spline and tapering to a point towards the center of the shaft. The other shaft looks fine and has .1575 splines, which seems good, but it is also one of the bta501 series, which seem to get a bad reputation. The shaft that broke is a stange number 2a7085. Should i just replace both? So far i have not been successful getting the broken end out using a rod, but i think at this point i'm going to pull the diff anyway to make sure its clean, then remove the broken piece. There was a lot of metal debris stuck to the end of the broken shaft. I also have a diff oil leak at the nose shaft seal, although this may be due to overfilling because ive had the car raised and angled prob 10 degrees when filling the rear end. Is this seal easier to renew while the diff is removed from the axle housing? The manual advises using the handbrake to hold the diff when removing the prop shaft nut, necessitating it being in the car and assembled. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Oct 10 08:07:30 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:07:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> Message-ID: > Skip one cup of Starbucks coffee every few days and your covered. You're not a graduate student studying on your own nickel. Michael Rowe From lists at woozy.com Mon Oct 10 09:14:13 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:14:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU question Message-ID: <4E930BC5.4010600@woozy.com> Hi All, I finally got my Midget running yesterday. Thanks to everyone who emailed and offered tips and moral support. One of the reasons I stopped driving this car was that there was always a really strong gas smell when I'd drive it. I noticed while working on the car that this pair of SU carbs has an extra fitting on top of the float chamber which look just like the gas inlet fittings. From what I can tell these fittings were supposed to be connected to the evaporative emissions canister. Since this car does not have an evaporative emissions system what should I do with these? Can they simply be plugged or can I run a gas-line from the front carb to the rear carb similar to how the inlets are setup? I noticed while I was under the hood tuning the car that some times when revving the car that gas would shoot out of these fittings. I can't imagine that is a good thing. Thanks, Robert From bkitterer at me.com Mon Oct 10 09:50:28 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:50:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Does it eat paint??? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Castrol GTLMA DOT FOUR!! > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > >> Use Castrol LMA. >> >> >> Sent from my keyboard >> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: >> >>> List, >>> I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch & >> brake >>> master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do I >> use >>> Girling Brake fluid? >>> Thanks Lin >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > http://tequilabrad.com/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Oct 10 10:50:57 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:50:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> Nope, I'm not. But I maintain that if your budget is so strapped that the price of a cup of Starbucks coffee every few days breaks the bank you've got no business buying a car. What are you gonna do when a pipeline breaks somewhere and the price of gas goes up 50 cents a gallon because of the "shortage"? I was a poor student 100 years ago and it was tough sometimes to get by. But I did it and drove a vehicle at the time that required premium gas - '48 Dodge 1/2 ton pickup with a hemi. :-) Just my opinion, NFI, etc.,etc. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> Skip one cup of Starbucks coffee every few days and you're covered. > > You're not a graduate student studying on your own nickel. > > Michael Rowe From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Oct 10 11:18:22 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:18:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU question In-Reply-To: <4E930BC5.4010600@woozy.com> References: <4E930BC5.4010600@woozy.com> Message-ID: Unless I miss my guess, those are the overflow fittings and were connected to pa pipe that ran down and drained on the roadway. That fuel comes out of them would indicate that your float/needle and seat/ fuel pressure is off. Those fittings should only function as vents if everything else is working properly. Lester On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Robert Weeks wrote: > Hi All, > > I finally got my Midget running yesterday. Thanks to everyone who > emailed and offered tips and moral support. > > One of the reasons I stopped driving this car was that there was always > a really strong gas smell when I'd drive it. I noticed while working on > the car that this pair of SU carbs has an extra fitting on top of the > float chamber which look just like the gas inlet fittings. From what I > can tell these fittings were supposed to be connected to the evaporative > emissions canister. Since this car does not have an evaporative > emissions system what should I do with these? Can they simply be plugged > or can I run a gas-line from the front carb to the rear carb similar to > how the inlets are setup? I noticed while I was under the hood tuning > the car that some times when revving the car that gas would shoot out of > these fittings. I can't imagine that is a good thing. > > Thanks, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 11:25:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:25:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My Spridget cover damn near constructable Message-ID: List, I forgot who asked about my car cover that I bought at Carlisle this May but I just found the receipt with phone number see below: Cover-Up Enterprises 1444 Manor Lane, Blue Bell, Pa. 19422 1800-268-3757 Fax 215-654-9252 Note the brand cover they sold me is Ultratect which you may get cheaper I paid $230., still cheaper than a garage. Nearly impossible to tear. Receipt says #C-1UG Lin From lbc77mg at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 11:44:50 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:44:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Yes. Don't spill it! Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Does it eat paint??? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 9, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > Castrol GTLMA DOT FOUR!! > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > > > >> Use Castrol LMA. > >> > >> > >> Sent from my keyboard > >> > >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > >> > >>> List, > >>> I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch & > >> brake > >>> master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do I > >> use > >>> Girling Brake fluid? > >>> Thanks Lin From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 12:29:06 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:29:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] SU question In-Reply-To: <4E930BC5.4010600@woozy.com> References: <4E930BC5.4010600@woozy.com> Message-ID: If you plug them completely you may need to vent the top of the float chamber. Early floats had little, maybe 1/16" holes to allow venting when gas was entering or leaving. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Weeks Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:14:13 To: spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] SU question Hi All, I finally got my Midget running yesterday. Thanks to everyone who emailed and offered tips and moral support. One of the reasons I stopped driving this car was that there was always a really strong gas smell when I'd drive it. I noticed while working on the car that this pair of SU carbs has an extra fitting on top of the float chamber which look just like the gas inlet fittings. From what I can tell these fittings were supposed to be connected to the evaporative emissions canister. Since this car does not have an evaporative emissions system what should I do with these? Can they simply be plugged or can I run a gas-line from the front carb to the rear carb similar to how the inlets are setup? I noticed while I was under the hood tuning the car that some times when revving the car that gas would shoot out of these fittings. I can't imagine that is a good thing. Thanks, Robert _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Oct 10 12:46:08 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:46:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home><73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <7D10160CDF38472C844FD3A52223F041@spider> >From http://forums.aaca.org/f169/gas-1948-buick-310940.html "Any 1948 vehicle was made to run on low lead or no lead, 70 octane fuel. That is all they had back then. ..." =================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:51 AM To: Michael Rowe; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel Nope, I'm not. But I maintain that if your budget is so strapped that the price of a cup of Starbucks coffee every few days breaks the bank you've got no business buying a car. What are you gonna do when a pipeline breaks somewhere and the price of gas goes up 50 cents a gallon because of the "shortage"? I was a poor student 100 years ago and it was tough sometimes to get by. But I did it and drove a vehicle at the time that required premium gas - '48 Dodge 1/2 ton pickup with a hemi. :-) Just my opinion, NFI, etc.,etc. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> Skip one cup of Starbucks coffee every few days and you're covered. > > You're not a graduate student studying on your own nickel. > > Michael Rowe Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Oct 10 12:47:04 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:47:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <09C8E96E1534485EA2329DC575E75D2A@Home> > Nope, I'm not. But I maintain that if your budget is so strapped that the > price of a cup of Starbucks coffee every few days breaks the bank you've > got no business buying a car. I can hear Frank turning over in his grave all the way from NY to NJ. How about you guys in CA? Did you hear it, too? Michael Rowe From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Oct 10 12:47:27 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <89225AAF-9A0A-4693-8CF3-59D650B4EE64@comcast.net> Rick, I think you miss his point. It's not that he can't afford the gas, it's that he can't afford to be without Starbucks every few days. The key here is the "graduate student" remark not just "student".. ;-) Lester On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Nope, I'm not. But I maintain that if your budget is so strapped that the > price of a cup of Starbucks coffee every few days breaks the bank you've got > no business buying a car. What are you gonna do when a pipeline breaks > somewhere and the price of gas goes up 50 cents a gallon because of the > "shortage"? > > I was a poor student 100 years ago and it was tough sometimes to get by. But > I did it and drove a vehicle at the time that required premium gas - '48 > Dodge 1/2 ton pickup with a hemi. :-) > > Just my opinion, NFI, etc.,etc. > > Rick > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >>> Skip one cup of Starbucks coffee every few days and you're covered. >> >> You're not a graduate student studying on your own nickel. >> >> Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon Oct 10 13:20:07 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint Message-ID: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Painted my Sprite race car last week and finally can get back to the engine and transmission building. I get better on every body job but still lots of room for improvement, and the worst part for me is having my small shop tied up with the never ending prep work. I'm loving the color, YMMV. http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Johns-Projects/Fresh_Paint John Fogelsville, PA From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 13:50:43 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:50:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel Message-ID: This is my experience exactly, There is an Arco a block from the Grange (where I normally fill my tank). At the Grange I get pure gas and the high grade stuff is currently $4.09 / gallon. The Arco has regular with 10% ethanol for $3.79 / gallon. When I use the Arco gas I get about 25 mpg. When I use the pure premium I get 30 mpg. My fuel efficiency increases 20% and only costs me 8% more. Driving with the Arco costs me 15.16 cents per mile. Driving with the Grange's premium fuel costs me 13.63 cents per mile. I think there are other benefits (seat of the pants) but purely financial math says using the best gas is cheaper. Rick (plus I like it better) Bastedo ______________________________________ From: Bill L To: Michael Rowe Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 18:59:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel Hello Michael, I just checked and this car IS equipped with a knock sensor. It will automatically adjust the timing when it senses regular gas. a side note is that the fuel economy will most likely suffer by almost exactly the amount or MORE than the cost of putting in premium. .. that is if premium costs 5% more, the fuel economy will suffer by at least 5% by using regular gas...... do your own tests though YMMV -- Best regards, Bill L. From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Oct 10 14:13:16 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:13:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <09C8E96E1534485EA2329DC575E75D2A@Home> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> <09C8E96E1534485EA2329DC575E75D2A@Home> Message-ID: I don't get it - why would Frank be rolling in his grave? Guess I didn't go to school long enough. :-) I don't know what Frank thought of Starbuck's coffee. But I do know that even though he was the founder of the "We Tight" club if one of his vehicles required a higher grade of gas than regular he spent the extra pennies and bought it. Rick > I can hear Frank turning over in his grave all the way from NY to NJ. How > about you guys in CA? Did you hear it, too? > > Michael Rowe From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Oct 10 14:36:56 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:36:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <7D10160CDF38472C844FD3A52223F041@spider> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> <7D10160CDF38472C844FD3A52223F041@spider> Message-ID: <367145DE-F548-481F-BE2E-CDD4C10444E9@chartermi.net> The engine was not a '48 and was not stock. :-) Rick Sent from my keyboard On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:46 PM, wrote: > From http://forums.aaca.org/f169/gas-1948-buick-310940.html > > "Any 1948 vehicle was made to run on low lead or no lead, 70 octane fuel. > That is all they had back then. ..." From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 10 15:15:37 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:15:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E936079.8060100@sbcglobal.net> I put HS2s on my 1500 and they didn't have the extra fittings, just a hole at the top of the bowl cover that would burp raw fuel sometimes on a hot day at a stop light. I changed the covers with a pair like you describe and hooked them up to the evaporative system with charcoal canister and the smell went away. After getting back from Midget 50 I've been plagued by a stumble at very light throttle that has been driving me crazy. After going through the entire car checking, adjusting and rechecking the problem was still there. I then disconnected those hoses and the problem immediately went away and the car runs better than it ever has. Turns out my canister was plugged. Easy enough to fix. If you don't have a charcoal canister my suggestion is to run hoses from the vents away from the exhaust manifold and down near the ground. The smell will be much less, as well as the fire potential. Don't just plug them. Lee On 10/10/2011 1:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:14:13 -0400 > From: Robert Weeks > To: spridgets net > Subject: [Spridgets] SU question > Message-ID:<4E930BC5.4010600 at woozy.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi All, > > I finally got my Midget running yesterday. Thanks to everyone who > emailed and offered tips and moral support. > > One of the reasons I stopped driving this car was that there was always > a really strong gas smell when I'd drive it. I noticed while working on > the car that this pair of SU carbs has an extra fitting on top of the > float chamber which look just like the gas inlet fittings. From what I > can tell these fittings were supposed to be connected to the evaporative > emissions canister. Since this car does not have an evaporative > emissions system what should I do with these? Can they simply be plugged > or can I run a gas-line from the front carb to the rear carb similar to > how the inlets are setup? I noticed while I was under the hood tuning > the car that some times when revving the car that gas would shoot out of > these fittings. I can't imagine that is a good thing. > > Thanks, > > Robert From two00mph at aol.com Mon Oct 10 16:35:41 2011 From: two00mph at aol.com (Michael Joy) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:35:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VW fuel Message-ID: 2003 VW Passat Check with the dealer service department. Many modern cars require premium fuel for legal reasons... so they will meet the performance standards the manufacturer advertises. Since the spark advance is computer-controlled, it is advanced AND retarded automatically to prevent detonation. In MOST cases, it is perfectly acceptable to use regular 87 octane gas. The car might take 7.54 seconds to reach 60 instead of 7.0, but that is about the only drawback, LOL. The test for this is a simple one. Let the fuel gauge get down to 1/2 and fill with regular. Now you have a full tank of 90 octane. (Octane is linear, so mixing half a tank of 93 with half a tank of 87 gives you a full tank of 90). If it doesnt knock or ping, repeat the process at 1/2 full. Now you have a tank of 88.5 octane (1/2 90 + 1/2 87). If it doesnt ping or knock, let the tank get near empty and put in some 87, etc. From kristi74midget at comcast.net Mon Oct 10 17:38:13 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:38:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher Message-ID: Hey all, In case you did not hear at the Philly MG Club car show this weekend my car won diamond in the rough, well now it is a little rougher. I was driving home from work this evening and lost my front driver side tire. The lug nuts came off. Thank god it was only one because two of the other tires had loose nuts too. I am ok but the front end is not. Hey George (Van Horn) if you get a chance can you stop by and take a look so I know what to buy in order to fix her? Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Oct 10 17:38:47 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:38:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! In-Reply-To: <1351416729-1318238920-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1629583960-@b14.c22.bise6.blackberry> References: <1351416729-1318238920-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1629583960-@b14.c22.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <08EDC148B4354641B292525CCECD716F@blackbox2> >These are standard disc wheels, fyi. Why? >Ken Because if your car was improperly converted to wires wheels it would explain the axle breakage and I would then have more questions to ask. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Oct 10 17:49:46 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:49:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> Message-ID: Try a small amount of regular and see how it runs. You may find that it runs fine in the winter months on regular but during the summer you will need to run premium. I'll bet the engine has a knock sensor and will retard the timing automatically. If this is the case you can run regular but you get less performance. The owner's manual should be clear on this. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel Younger Daughter ended up with a time crunch and had to buy a 2003 VW Passat from a friend because it was available immediately - not the car she would normally consider. It has a fancy engine and wants premium gas. Will regular gas do damage if she does not drive the car hard? Should the timing be adjusted? From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 18:30:39 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:30:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] VW fuel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just bought another VW, a 2000 Golf. I bought it for the fuel type: Diesel. If 03 Passats had trouble with 87 Octane it would be all over the forums. If you really want performance get fuel with no Ethanol. My Prerunner gets about 1-2 more MPG with non-Ethanol gasoline. Leave it to the government to mandate higher fuel efficiency vehicles while pushing crappier fuel on consumers. I like driving my buddy's 05 Passat TDI. It has a fuel economy readout on the cluster. When you stomp it the number drops. When on the interstate it reads in the 40s. It is a crime that we do not get to chose from some of the Diesel powered vehicles available in other countries. C'mon, man, smart cars? Really? Give us choice and let us decide what we want. From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 10 18:48:50 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (HomeHandy) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU question In-Reply-To: <4E930BC5.4010600@woozy.com> References: <4E930BC5.4010600@woozy.com> Message-ID: <818451D40F0340C49C9D47DAE231F051@Snoopy> Robert, I have those same carbs on my BE with 1275 engine. I ran a hose down and back under the body and secured it with cable ties. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Robert Weeks Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:14 AM To: spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] SU question Hi All, I finally got my Midget running yesterday. Thanks to everyone who emailed and offered tips and moral support. One of the reasons I stopped driving this car was that there was always a really strong gas smell when I'd drive it. I noticed while working on the car that this pair of SU carbs has an extra fitting on top of the float chamber which look just like the gas inlet fittings. From what I can tell these fittings were supposed to be connected to the evaporative emissions canister. Since this car does not have an evaporative emissions system what should I do with these? Can they simply be plugged or can I run a gas-line from the front carb to the rear carb similar to how the inlets are setup? I noticed while I was under the hood tuning the car that some times when revving the car that gas would shoot out of these fittings. I can't imagine that is a good thing. Thanks, Robert Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/homehandy at sbcglobal.net From lmacy at mac.com Mon Oct 10 19:02:38 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:02:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint In-Reply-To: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54087950-6625-415E-BC73-71B4B9D739C3@mac.com> Well at least you'll be visible!! Larry On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:20 PM, fastvee wrote: > Painted my Sprite race car last week and finally can get back to the engine and transmission building. I get better on every body job but still lots of room for improvement, and the worst part for me is having my small shop tied up with the never ending prep work. I'm loving the color, YMMV. > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Johns-Projects/Fresh_Paint > John > Fogelsville, PA > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry Perelman School of Medicine University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with people you's rather not talk to." G. Carlin From kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 19:30:23 2011 From: kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com (Kenneth Klemmer) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:30:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! In-Reply-To: <08EDC148B4354641B292525CCECD716F@blackbox2> References: <1351416729-1318238920-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1629583960-@b14.c22.bise6.blackberry> <08EDC148B4354641B292525CCECD716F@blackbox2> Message-ID: Ah-ha... Nope i think this car always had discs, although i have been considering wire wheels. Will i need to consider a different axle if i decide to change to them in the future? Of course, if i did put wires on this car, they would instantly double its value! Somehow I dont think I'll be making it back in resale however. :) Sent from my iPad On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: >> These are standard disc wheels, fyi. Why? >> Ken > > Because if your car was improperly converted to wires wheels it would > explain the axle breakage and I would then have more questions to ask. From bkitterer at me.com Mon Oct 10 20:57:27 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:57:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <7D10160CDF38472C844FD3A52223F041@spider> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> <73634729-6C99-4C3A-B20C-6E1E654D4B90@chartermi.net> <0F9287E0-6ADF-4CBD-89E0-77A4928E2BD2@chartermi.net> <7D10160CDF38472C844FD3A52223F041@spider> Message-ID: Sorry, there was no low lead or no lead fuel in 1948, it all had lead. Also there was 100 octane leaded fuel. Old fart reply Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:46 AM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > From http://forums.aaca.org/f169/gas-1948-buick-310940.html > > "Any 1948 vehicle was made to run on low lead or no lead, 70 octane fuel. > That is all they had back then. ..." From bkitterer at me.com Mon Oct 10 20:58:49 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:58:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Yes. Don't spill it! > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Does it eat paint??? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: >> >>> Castrol GTLMA DOT FOUR!! >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: >>> >>>> Use Castrol LMA. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my keyboard >>>> >>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Linda Grunthaner >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> List, >>>>> I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch & >>>> brake >>>>> master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do I >>>> use >>>>> Girling Brake fluid? >>>>> Thanks Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 11 01:22:40 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:22:40 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher References: Message-ID: <65FEFD971A784221BBAE9A654DF82286@user8634b3d69b> Happy to read you are alive! Would it be too embarrassing to answer the question - Why were the lug nuts loose? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristi & Lambert" To: "Philadelphia MG Club" ; ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:38 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher > Hey all, > > In case you did not hear at the Philly MG Club car show this weekend my > car > won diamond in the rough, well now it is a little rougher. I was driving > home > from work this evening and lost my front driver side tire. The lug nuts > came > off. Thank god it was only one because two of the other tires had loose > nuts > too. I am ok but the front end is not. > > Hey George (Van Horn) if you get a chance can you stop by and take a look > so I > know what to buy in order to fix her? > > Kristi & Lambert > '74 RWA Midget > '77 RB Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 11 01:25:44 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:25:44 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint References: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <54087950-6625-415E-BC73-71B4B9D739C3@mac.com> Message-ID: Not if he goes off in a grass verge..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macy Larry" To: "fastvee" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint > Well at least you'll be visible!! > > Larry > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:20 PM, fastvee wrote: > >> Painted my Sprite race car last week and finally can get back to the >> engine and transmission building. I get better on every body job but >> still lots of room for improvement, and the worst part for me is having >> my small shop tied up with the never ending prep work. I'm loving the >> color, YMMV. >> http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Johns-Projects/Fresh_Paint >> John >> Fogelsville, PA >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > Perelman School of Medicine > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with > people you's rather not talk to." G. Carlin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From kmappley at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 05:22:07 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:22:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re And the verdict is? Broken half shaft! Message-ID: Personally I would avoid tightening the pinion nut quite to factory specs when changing the pinion seal. The factory specs on the later diff are to correctly crush the distance tube and you don't want to risk crushing it any more than originally.I've done several successfully this way. Say 10# less. Kurt From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 06:07:51 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:07:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> Message-ID: As far as I know, the only "paint safe" brake fluid, is DOT 5 Silicone fluid. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. > > Bob Kitterer and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > Yes. Don't spill it! > > > > Allen Hefner > > Norristown, PA > > > > *Current:* > > 2006 Chebbie > > *Former:* > > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > > 1964 VW Type I > > 1967 VW Type II > > 1967 Rover 2000TC > > 1977 MG Midget > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > > > >> Does it eat paint??? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> > >>> Castrol GTLMA DOT FOUR!! > >>> > >>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Rick Fisk > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Use Castrol LMA. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my keyboard > >>>> > >>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Linda Grunthaner > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> List, > >>>>> I have the duel master cylinder in Pinky because she is a 62, clutch > & > >>>> brake > >>>>> master cylinder are one unit. It's been a while since I filled it do > I > >>>> use > >>>>> Girling Brake fluid? > >>>>> Thanks Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From kristi74midget at comcast.net Tue Oct 11 08:08:06 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:08:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher In-Reply-To: <65FEFD971A784221BBAE9A654DF82286@user8634b3d69b> References: <65FEFD971A784221BBAE9A654DF82286@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> No it is not too embarrassing because we really have no idea why they were loose. Lambert changed his tires to a new set on Friday with different rims after discovering that he had a problem with his rear wheel cylinder on the back passenger side. The tires were all put back on with an impact wrench so there is no reason why they should have come loose. He even drove it to our car show and back on Saturday and then to work and back again yesterday. He was on his way home from teaching night school when this happened. Kristi Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget On Oct 11, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Happy to read you are alive! > > Would it be too embarrassing to answer the question - Why were the lug nuts loose? > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristi & Lambert" > To: "Philadelphia MG Club" ; ; "Spridget List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:38 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher > > >> Hey all, >> >> In case you did not hear at the Philly MG Club car show this weekend my car >> won diamond in the rough, well now it is a little rougher. I was driving home >> from work this evening and lost my front driver side tire. The lug nuts came >> off. Thank god it was only one because two of the other tires had loose nuts >> too. I am ok but the front end is not. >> >> Hey George (Van Horn) if you get a chance can you stop by and take a look so I >> know what to buy in order to fix her? >> >> Kristi & Lambert >> '74 RWA Midget >> '77 RB Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 11 08:46:15 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:46:15 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher References: <65FEFD971A784221BBAE9A654DF82286@user8634b3d69b> <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> Message-ID: Perhaps this was the result of an aborted attempt at wheel / tire theft from the night school car park? The thief was interrupted prior to taking all the nuts off or he realised the tires were the wrong size? May be worth getting some locking wheel nuts. If you're going to have to replace lug nuts after loosing some when the wheel came off you may as well. Glad you're around. Best of luck with the 'Rough Diamond' Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristi & Lambert" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Philadelphia MG Club" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher No it is not too embarrassing because we really have no idea why they were loose. Lambert changed his tires to a new set on Friday with different rims after discovering that he had a problem with his rear wheel cylinder on the back passenger side. The tires were all put back on with an impact wrench so there is no reason why they should have come loose. He even drove it to our car show and back on Saturday and then to work and back again yesterday. He was on his way home from teaching night school when this happened. Kristi Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget On Oct 11, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Happy to read you are alive! > > Would it be too embarrassing to answer the question - Why were the lug > nuts loose? > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristi & Lambert" > > To: "Philadelphia MG Club" ; > ; "Spridget List" > > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:38 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher > > >> Hey all, >> >> In case you did not hear at the Philly MG Club car show this weekend my >> car >> won diamond in the rough, well now it is a little rougher. I was driving >> home >> from work this evening and lost my front driver side tire. The lug nuts >> came >> off. Thank god it was only one because two of the other tires had loose >> nuts >> too. I am ok but the front end is not. >> >> Hey George (Van Horn) if you get a chance can you stop by and take a look >> so I >> know what to buy in order to fix her? >> >> Kristi & Lambert >> '74 RWA Midget >> '77 RB Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 11 09:45:53 2011 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher In-Reply-To: <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> References: <65FEFD971A784221BBAE9A654DF82286@user8634b3d69b> <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1318347953.83359.YahooMailNeo@web39421.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sabotage at school???? ________________________________ From: Kristi & Lambert To: Guy R Day Cc: Spridget List ; Philadelphia MG Club Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher No it is not too embarrassing because we really have no idea why they were loose. Lambert changed his tires to a new set on Friday with different rims after discovering that he had a problem with his rear wheel cylinder on the back passenger side. The tires were all put back on with an impact wrench so there is no reason why they should have come loose. He even drove it to our car show and back on Saturday and then to work and back again yesterday. He was on his way home from teaching night school when this happened. Kristi Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget On Oct 11, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Happy to read you are alive! > > Would it be too embarrassing to answer the question - Why were the lug nuts loose? > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristi & Lambert" > To: "Philadelphia MG Club" ; ; "Spridget List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:38 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher > > >> Hey all, >> >> In case you did not hear at the Philly MG Club car show this weekend my car >> won diamond in the rough, well now it is a little rougher. I was driving home >> from work this evening and lost my front driver side tire. The lug nuts came >> off. Thank god it was only one because two of the other tires had loose nuts >> too. I am ok but the front end is not. >> >> Hey George (Van Horn) if you get a chance can you stop by and take a look so I >> know what to buy in order to fix her? >> >> Kristi & Lambert >> '74 RWA Midget >> '77 RB Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/racerbob70 at yahoo.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Oct 11 10:30:42 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:30:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher In-Reply-To: <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> References: <65FEFD971A784221BBAE9A654DF82286@user8634b3d69b> <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4116FE6DB985436C8F6A9E71692FDEC2@Home> > No it is not too embarrassing because we really have no idea why they were > loose. I recently had a wheel come loose but not off because it was not seated properly when the lugs were tightened. A bump seated it, and the lugs were loose. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Oct 11 10:43:59 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:43:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor Pics Message-ID: Some nice pics here of a Morris Minor and its BMC A engine in parts. Also other dissected car parts. http://www.pbase.com/brixton_morris/morris_minors&page=all Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Oct 11 11:10:14 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:10:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > You may find that it runs fine in the winter months on regular Isn't your summer gas better? Ours is. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Oct 11 11:27:15 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New guy in San Diego... Help out Message-ID: <201110111027934.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Meet James.... new guy in San Diego. Just bought a 63 Midget. Needs some local parts sources, like for a radiator, water pump, etc. Some of you know the local places. Also, aren't some of you having a barbecue soon? James, I hope the respondents will include your address. To subscribe to this very friendly group go to http://www.team.net/forums follow the instructions for spridgets Pass it forward. Peter C. From neilandcustom at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 11:46:57 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks Message-ID: <00ce01cc883d$c78ab280$56a01780$@com> List, Peter Caldwell has written a highly interesting and detailed article about the fully adjustable Armstrong shocks he developed and produces for the many different cars that use Armstrongs. These are of similar concept to the original Armstrong 22s that are quite rare and hard to find these days. He markets the new shocks through his company, World Wide Imports of Madison. Here is the link to the article: http://www.sebringsprite.com/shockabsorbers.html Best, Neil Anderson N. Illinois AN5 Sebring project From shop at justbrits.com Tue Oct 11 12:19:18 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:19:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> Message-ID: <4E9488A6.3090803@justbrits.com> Ah SH*T................. << ...DOT 5 Silicone fluid. >> here we go AGAIN ! ! ! ! ! ! From shop at justbrits.com Tue Oct 11 12:38:19 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] MG Engine for Sale] Message-ID: <4E948D1B.7090702@justbrits.com> Just posted on Big Healeys ! ! ! One of youse NorWesters must "need" !?!?! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Healeys] MG Engine for Sale Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:32:21 -0700 From: Jim McDermott To: Austin_Healey Healey_Net Guys I got a call from a local guy that has an MG engine for sale. I know, this is the Healey list, but some of you are into other British Cars so: For Sale 1275 cc high compression MG engine with close ratio gearbox and oil cooler #12CD DA-H-13106 Make an offer! Mike Aarhaus Seattle, WA cell-206-935-2432 aarhaus at comcast.net ThanksJim McDermott100-Six BN4 _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/shop at justbrits.com From rdgard at cox.net Tue Oct 11 12:48:51 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:48:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New guy in San Diego... Help out In-Reply-To: <201110111027934.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110111027934.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Hi James, welcome. Where are you in San Diego. I am in the Mt. Helix area. Feel free to contact me. Perhaps I can help. You should contact John Felt here about the BBQ and he has lines on lots of parts. Try him at: johnfelt at hotmail.com Welcome to the group. Cheers, Bob in San Diego Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:27 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Cc: jemsdca at gmail.com Subject: New guy in San Diego... Help out Meet James.... new guy in San Diego. Just bought a 63 Midget. Needs some local parts sources, like for a radiator, water pump, etc. Some of you know the local places. Also, aren't some of you having a barbecue soon? James, I hope the respondents will include your address. To subscribe to this very friendly group go to http://www.team.net/forums follow the instructions for spridgets Pass it forward. Peter C. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Oct 11 12:49:13 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:49:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New guy in San Diego... Help out In-Reply-To: <201110111027934.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110111027934.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4E948FA9.7010203@justbrits.com> EASIER yet James........ <> just send a mail with NO "Subject:" TO: spridgets-request at autox.team.net with the word: subscribe in the "Body:" or "Message:". Dats it. You will get a Request for Conformation which you just "Reply to:" and then you get a "Welcome" message !! DONE ! ! ! Welcome to The List ! ! ! Ed From pvanwig at me.com Tue Oct 11 13:18:59 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:18:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] VW fuel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FD5D208-E866-47FA-9DBF-80D273BA6F3B@me.com> That's why I have a Dodge with the cummins motor. 18 mpg 4x4 3/4 ton club cab 8' bed & a metal shell. My last chevy got 10 mpg Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear pvanwig at Mac dot com Sent from my iPhone So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons) On Oct 10, 2011, at 5:30 PM, derf wrote: > I just bought another VW, a 2000 Golf. I bought it for the fuel type: Diesel. > > If 03 Passats had trouble with 87 Octane it would be all over the forums. > If you really want performance get fuel with no Ethanol. My Prerunner > gets about 1-2 more MPG with non-Ethanol gasoline. > Leave it to the government to mandate higher fuel efficiency vehicles > while pushing crappier fuel on consumers. > > I like driving my buddy's 05 Passat TDI. It has a fuel economy > readout on the cluster. When you stomp it the number drops. When on > the interstate it reads in the 40s. > > It is a crime that we do not get to chose from some of the Diesel > powered vehicles available in other countries. C'mon, man, smart > cars? Really? Give us choice and let us decide what we want. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at me.com From lists at dinospider.com Tue Oct 11 14:49:46 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:49:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher In-Reply-To: <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> References: <65FEFD971A784221BBAE9A654DF82286@user8634b3d69b> <2EAE8BD4-78B9-42FA-BFEC-070E546C6C06@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E94ABEA.4040005@dinospider.com> 1. impact is a problem but maybe only for me, as I like to properly torque my wheel nuts and not use a impact. 2. I don't see where you say that you drove 10-20 miles and re-tightened the wheel nuts. Either way, good that no one got hurt and now you get dig a little deeper into the car, that is always fun. mike On 10/11/2011 07:08 AM, Kristi & Lambert wrote: > No it is not too embarrassing because we really have no idea why they were > loose. Lambert changed his tires to a new set on Friday with different rims > after discovering that he had a problem with his rear wheel cylinder on the > back passenger side. The tires were all put back on with an impact wrench so > there is no reason why they should have come loose. He even drove it to our > car show and back on Saturday and then to work and back again yesterday. He > was on his way home from teaching night school when this happened. > > > Kristi > > Kristi& Lambert > '74 RWA Midget > '77 RB Midget From sethamosjones at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 15:41:45 2011 From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:41:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks In-Reply-To: <00ce01cc883d$c78ab280$56a01780$@com> References: <00ce01cc883d$c78ab280$56a01780$@com> Message-ID: I did some patent searches and came up with some interesting finds Just look for "Fullerton George Gordon Armstrong", "F.G.G Armstrong", or "Armstrong Patent Company Ltd" Here is an article about the man who built them (the only one I could find on the web) http://www.beverleygolfclub.co.uk/bergc/index.php/club-characters/42-gordon-a rmstrong Some of the more interesting ideas were a lever arm shock that incorporated the springs for the front suspension, and some adjustable shocks that could be remotely controlled via a solenoid and switch arrangement. -Seth On Oct 11, 2011 AD, at 12:46 PM, Neil Anderson wrote: > List, > > Peter Caldwell has written a highly interesting and detailed article about > the fully adjustable Armstrong shocks he developed and produces for the many > different cars that use Armstrongs. These are of similar concept to the > original Armstrong 22s that are quite rare and hard to find these days. He > markets the new shocks through his company, World Wide Imports of Madison. > > > > Here is the link to the article: > http://www.sebringsprite.com/shockabsorbers.html > > > > Best, > Neil Anderson > > N. Illinois > > AN5 Sebring project > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/sethamosjones at gmail.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 16:34:31 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:34:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <4E9488A6.3090803@justbrits.com> References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <4E9488A6.3090803@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Bless you. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > Ah SH*T................. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Oct 11 17:06:23 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:06:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Diamond is a little rougher Message-ID: <2135995781-1318374384-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-951304668-@b1.c16.bise6.blackberry> Glad all are ok. Its a bad feeling when that happens As for re tightening things after a test ride, and after this talk about changing axles, don't forget about everything involved with that too. Trust me on that one. Chris Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 11 17:21:54 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:21:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety Message-ID: <002c01cc886c$90862e20$b1928a60$@net> >From an old Navy (1960) sports car buddy on the TR list. Buster From: Jim Bauder [mailto:jimbpps at cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:56 PM To: 'Jim Bauder' Subject: FW: [DCTRA] fuel line Importance: High FYI! One of our members with a cautionary tale of fuel line failure! Jim _____ I was recently in Ohio when my wife called to say she smelled gas in the garage. My neighbors found that my TR6A was leaking gas. My wife called the fire department and they told her to evacuate until they arrived. The firemen pushed my car outside and hosed down the garage drip carpet I had under the car. They said it was a very dangerous situation. My neighbors drained the rest of the gas from the car. Upon my return I found that the fuel line hose that connects the gas tank downspout to the fuel line had cracked. This hose was 6 years old. I have never had this problem in over 40 years with Triumphs in Ohio. I replaced this hose and all fuel line hoses with fuel injection line hose and plan to do this every 5 years. You might want to check yours. Mike From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 11 17:19:56 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:19:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety Message-ID: <002701cc886c$4a0b1eb0$de215c10$@net> >From an old Navy (1960) sports car buddy on the TR list. Buster From: Jim Bauder [mailto:jimbpps at cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:56 PM To: 'Jim Bauder' Subject: FW: [DCTRA] fuel line Importance: High FYI! One of our members with a cautionary tale of fuel line failure! Jim _____ I was recently in Ohio when my wife called to say she smelled gas in the garage. My neighbors found that my TR6A was leaking gas. My wife called the fire department and they told her to evacuate until they arrived. The firemen pushed my car outside and hosed down the garage drip carpet I had under the car. They said it was a very dangerous situation. My neighbors drained the rest of the gas from the car. Upon my return I found that the fuel line hose that connects the gas tank downspout to the fuel line had cracked. This hose was 6 years old. I have never had this problem in over 40 years with Triumphs in Ohio. I replaced this hose and all fuel line hoses with fuel injection line hose and plan to do this every 5 years. You might want to check yours. Mike From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 19:25:29 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:25:29 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: <002701cc886c$4a0b1eb0$de215c10$@net> References: <002701cc886c$4a0b1eb0$de215c10$@net> Message-ID: So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy the fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: "Robert Evans" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:19:56 To: Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety >From an old Navy (1960) sports car buddy on the TR list. Buster From: Jim Bauder [mailto:jimbpps at cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:56 PM To: 'Jim Bauder' Subject: FW: [DCTRA] fuel line Importance: High FYI! One of our members with a cautionary tale of fuel line failure! Jim _____ I was recently in Ohio when my wife called to say she smelled gas in the garage. My neighbors found that my TR6A was leaking gas. My wife called the fire department and they told her to evacuate until they arrived. The firemen pushed my car outside and hosed down the garage drip carpet I had under the car. They said it was a very dangerous situation. My neighbors drained the rest of the gas from the car. Upon my return I found that the fuel line hose that connects the gas tank downspout to the fuel line had cracked. This hose was 6 years old. I have never had this problem in over 40 years with Triumphs in Ohio. I replaced this hose and all fuel line hoses with fuel injection line hose and plan to do this every 5 years. You might want to check yours. Mike _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From lmacy at mac.com Tue Oct 11 20:01:12 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [EasternOshitGroup] Woo Hoo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Woo Hoo to Boo Hoo. On my way home on Sat after the show, I got stuck in traffic and the electric fan quit. I cooked the water pump, water flows in the top and out the weep hole on the pump at the same rate. Oh well. As THeresa said, once an MG always an MG, even if you change the color. I have a new in the box pump, at Kevin's (I think) Larry On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Macy Larry wrote: > I got to drive the Blue Phoenix to the Philly MG Club show at Lahaska PA today. What a showing, 185 cars. We had 80 pre-registered. See what happens when the weather is great in Oct?? > > Anyway, I was first on the field, we had decided to honor the Midget for the 50th. By the time the voting was donbe I got second. Well, second to a really nice car. Part of that is the Blue Phoenix is not quite finished. I need to wet sand and buff the paint, then add all the badges and paraphrenalia to the body, and the steering wheel needs a refinish. But it sure felt good to get my car to the show and pull out a second only a week after getting legal!! > > Oh Kristi won something (2nd or 3rd) and Lambert got Diamond in the Rough ;-) The whole family went home with something. Except me, I left my plaque at the show. (Actually I was handing them out, I suspect I handed it to the next 2nd place car). > > Nice cruise home down River Road and the first "official" outing of the Blue Phoenix is done. > > Larry > > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EasternOshitGroup/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EasternOshitGroup/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > EasternOshitGroup-digest at yahoogroups.com > EasternOshitGroup-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > EasternOshitGroup-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu System Manager/Administrator Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 21:38:37 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:38:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: <002c01cc886c$90862e20$b1928a60$@net> References: <002c01cc886c$90862e20$b1928a60$@net> Message-ID: I don't live in Ohio. I don't believe we have problem with our rubbers in Oregon. [?] Herb [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 360.gif] From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 23:06:23 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:06:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: <20111012032939.81CB5187868@autox.team.net> References: <002701cc886c$4a0b1eb0$de215c10$@net> <20111012032939.81CB5187868@autox.team.net> Message-ID: One word. Ethanol. Say hello to Jim for me... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, wrote: > So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy the > fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? > > > Sent from me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Robert Evans" > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:19:56 > To: > Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety > > From an old Navy (1960) sports car buddy on the TR list. > > > > Buster > > > > From: Jim Bauder [mailto:jimbpps at cox.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:56 PM > To: 'Jim Bauder' > Subject: FW: [DCTRA] fuel line > Importance: High > > > > FYI! One of our members with a cautionary tale of fuel line failure! > > > > Jim > > > > _____ > > > > I was recently in Ohio when my wife called to say she smelled gas in the > garage. My neighbors found that my TR6A was leaking gas. My wife called > the > fire department and they told her to evacuate until they arrived. The > firemen pushed my car outside and hosed down the garage drip carpet I had > under the car. They said it was a very dangerous situation. My neighbors > drained the rest of the gas from the car. Upon my return I found that the > fuel line hose that connects the gas tank downspout to the fuel line had > cracked. This hose was 6 years old. I have never had this problem in over > 40 > years with Triumphs in Ohio. I replaced this hose and all fuel line hoses > with fuel injection line hose and plan to do this every 5 years. You might > want to check yours. Mike > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Tue Oct 11 23:19:33 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:19:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] National Auto Museum Message-ID: <501278F9-4001-48BA-AB5B-595632802525@me.com> We were just at the National Automotive Museum and there are some photos at the link below. There are placards after each car but they maybe to small to read all the details, sorry about that. http://web.me.com/bkitterer/Bobs_Stuff/Nat._Auto_Museum.html#grid Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From bkitterer at me.com Tue Oct 11 23:35:20 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:35:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> Message-ID: <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic system a couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets waiting for us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another choice. Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > As far as I know, the only "paint safe" brake fluid, is DOT 5 Silicone > fluid. > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. >> >> Bob Kitterer and Dolores >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage >> >> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: >> >>> Yes. Don't spill it! >>> >>> Allen Hefner >>> Norristown, PA From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 04:13:46 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1318414426.6082.YahooMailClassic@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> john, congratulations! progress is what it's all about! some is happening here as well. ;) chuck --- On Tue, 10/11/11, Guy R Day wrote: From: Guy R Day Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint To: "Macy Larry" , "fastvee" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 3:25 AM Not if he goes off in a grass verge..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macy Larry" To: "fastvee" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint > Well at least you'll be visible!! > > Larry > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:20 PM, fastvee wrote: > >> Painted my Sprite race car last week and finally can get back to the engine and transmission building. I get better on every body job but still lots of room for improvement, and the worst part for me is having my small shop tied up with the never ending prep work. I'm loving the color, YMMV. >> http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Johns-Projects/Fresh_Paint >> John >> Fogelsville, PA >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> > > -- > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > Perelman School of Medicine > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with people you's rather not talk to." G. Carlin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 07:02:19 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:02:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint In-Reply-To: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, looks good, very neat looking clutch and flywheel. Good luck. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:20 PM, fastvee wrote: > Painted my Sprite race car last week and finally can get back to the engine > and transmission building. I get better on every body job but still lots of > room for improvement, and the worst part for me is having my small shop tied > up with the never ending prep work. I'm loving the color, YMMV. > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Johns-Projects/Fresh_Paint > John > Fogelsville, PA > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 12 07:37:25 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:37:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> Six words: We do not have enough information. On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One word. Ethanol. Say hello to Jim for me... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, > wrote: >> > So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy the >> > fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? >> > >> > >> > Sent from me. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 09:32:15 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:32:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure what you're saying, Bob. Do the seals not seal because you used DOT5? Or you redid the hydraulics because the seals were no longer sealing and then you switched to DOT5? Or am I over-analyzing? Stick with DOT4 or Castrol LMA. Both have a higher boiling point than DOT3. The only thing going for DOT5 is the paint thing. Water in the system should not be a problem if you flush and refill it every two years. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic system a > couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets waiting for > us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another choice. > > Bob Kitterer and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > As far as I know, the only "paint safe" brake fluid, is DOT 5 Silicone > > fluid. > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > > > >> Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. > >> > >> Bob Kitterer and Dolores > >> > >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > >> > >> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> > >>> Yes. Don't spill it! > >>> > >>> Allen Hefner From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 12 10:51:42 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:51:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel In-Reply-To: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> References: <46E2551691834E73990458FF4902732B@Home> Message-ID: Michael and Allison, If this car has the 1.8 turbo engine, I would NOT use regular fuel. Timing cannot be adjusted down like the old days, it is computer controlled. Yes, it does have a knock sensor that can retard the timing a bit if it detects a lower grade fuel, but if that knock sensor fails, your engine would soon after. Even if she doesn't think she is driving the car hard, these engines build boost a fairly low rpm and with that high cylinder pressures. It needs the high octane fuel. IIRC, she's in the San Fransisco area, lots of hills, requiring boost to get up them. Make sure you keep up with the maintenance on it, especially the oil changes using synthetic oil. Otherwise they have a sludge issue. For some more info on it, including consumer reviews, see: http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/passat/2003/consumer-reviews.html Hope this helps and good luck with it! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:02:24 -0400 > From: mdrowe at optonline.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > CC: amakrowe at gmail.com > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Premium fuel > > Younger Daughter ended up with a time crunch and had to buy a 2003 VW Passat from a friend because it was available immediately - not the car she would normally consider. It has a fancy engine and wants premium gas. Will regular gas do damage if she does not drive the car hard? Should the timing be adjusted? > > Michael Rowe > _________________ From cooper6 at swbell.net Wed Oct 12 11:08:54 2011 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin Cooper) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:08:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint In-Reply-To: References: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes I agree, who made it for you? Martin Cooper Sent from my iPad On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: > John, looks good, very neat looking clutch and flywheel. > > Good luck. > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:20 PM, fastvee wrote: > >> Painted my Sprite race car last week and finally can get back to the engine >> and transmission building. I get better on every body job but still lots of >> room for improvement, and the worst part for me is having my small shop tied >> up with the never ending prep work. I'm loving the color, YMMV. >> http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Johns-Projects/Fresh_Paint >> John >> Fogelsville, PA >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cooper6 at swbell.net From fastvee at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 11:44:36 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint In-Reply-To: References: <1318274407.23125.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1318441476.33781.YahooMailNeo@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The clutch is from the mind of Bob Griffith, BHP Developments. The flywheel was machined by a friend, the cover is a Tilton 5.5", and the driven plate is a Griffith built kevlar disc. It will be actuated with a Tilton roller release bearing adapted to a standard T.O. bearing & lever, and riding on a guide tubefabricated by me. Old school. John Fogelsville, PA ________________________________ From: Martin Cooper To: Steven Guterman Cc: fastvee ; "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint Yes I agree, who made it for you? Martin Cooper Sent from my iPad From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 12 12:02:34 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:02:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: ... but if you don't use the car on a regular, everyday, way, Silicone will be there for a very long time. It's the perfect thing for a hobby car. Not so good for a racecar. Lester On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > I'm not sure what you're saying, Bob. Do the seals not seal because you > used DOT5? Or you redid the hydraulics because the seals were no longer > sealing and then you switched to DOT5? Or am I over-analyzing? > > Stick with DOT4 or Castrol LMA. Both have a higher boiling point than > DOT3. The only thing going for DOT5 is the paint thing. Water in the > system should not be a problem if you flush and refill it every two years. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic system a >> couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets waiting for >> us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another choice. >> >> Bob Kitterer and Dolores >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: >> >>> As far as I know, the only "paint safe" brake fluid, is DOT 5 Silicone >>> fluid. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. >>>> >>>> Bob Kitterer and Dolores >>>> >>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage >>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage >>>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes. Don't spill it! >>>>> >>>>> Allen Hefner > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From bkitterer at me.com Wed Oct 12 12:39:43 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:39:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: When we did the restoration in 1997 I put in DOT 5 because I did not want to risk eating the paint. It was just fine until two years ago when the master cylinder seals gave up. So I replaced all the seals in the system, master cylinder, wheel cylinders and clutch cylinder. Regardless of how much DOT 5 I pushed through the system there was no pressure anywhere. I then ran across some information that said there were no seals for our cars that would work with DOT 5. That was just at the time we started our travel adventures and the car was put in storage. We will be moving back onto the house this spring at which time I will be readdressing this problem. Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > I'm not sure what you're saying, Bob. Do the seals not seal because you > used DOT5? Or you redid the hydraulics because the seals were no longer > sealing and then you switched to DOT5? Or am I over-analyzing? > > Stick with DOT4 or Castrol LMA. Both have a higher boiling point than > DOT3. The only thing going for DOT5 is the paint thing. Water in the > system should not be a problem if you flush and refill it every two years. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic system a >> couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets waiting for >> us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another choice. >> >> Bob Kitterer and Dolores >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 12 14:14:19 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:14:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? In-Reply-To: References: , <017c01cc8495$ab5d1720$02174560$@austin.rr.com>, , Message-ID: It's all the power of those 1500's Larry! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > From: lmacy at mac.com > Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 07:01:57 -0400 > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > CC: kaklemmer1969 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Broken axle/differential? > > I had this happen once before. Frank was convinced it was a half shaft. But he gave me a diff pumpkin anyway. I was right, it was the diff. Half shafts were fine. I suspect, but only have experiential evidence, that when they stuck the 1500 in the cars, they hardened the half shafts. > > Evidence: 2 1500's (76 & 78), 0 broken half shafts, 2 broken diff pumpkins, 100,000+ miles. > > Or maybe they made the diff weaker ;-) > > Larry > > On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:16 AM, derf wrote: > > > You will probably find one axle shaft broken. Remove both and use a > > broomstick handle to push out the broken piece. > > _____________ From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 14:43:06 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:43:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: Well, I disagree. Water will not mix at all with sillycon. If you don't keep the moisture in your brake system in suspension in the brake fluid, it will pool at the low points and will corrode wherever it sits. Eventually it will start leaking. The good thing is that it won't eat the paint. The bad thing is that if you don't notice it, you won't be able to stop. A much better idea for safety is to change the brake fluid every other year, or if you race, after each race. Plus, see Bob K's post about how seals in our LBCs aren't made for silicone fluid. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Lester wrote: > ... but if you don't use the car on a regular, everyday, way, Silicone will > be > there for a very long time. It's the perfect thing for a hobby car. Not > so > good for a racecar. > > Lester > > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > I'm not sure what you're saying, Bob. Do the seals not seal because you > > used DOT5? Or you redid the hydraulics because the seals were no longer > > sealing and then you switched to DOT5? Or am I over-analyzing? > > > > Stick with DOT4 or Castrol LMA. Both have a higher boiling point than > > DOT3. The only thing going for DOT5 is the paint thing. Water in the > > system should not be a problem if you flush and refill it every two > years. > > > > Allen Hefner > > Norristown, PA > > > > *Current:* > > 2006 Chebbie > > *Former:* > > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > > 1964 VW Type I > > 1967 VW Type II > > 1967 Rover 2000TC > > 1977 MG Midget > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > > > >> Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic system > a > >> couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets waiting > for > >> us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another > choice. > >> > >> Bob Kitterer and Dolores > >> > >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > >> > >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> > >>> As far as I know, the only "paint safe" brake fluid, is DOT 5 Silicone > >>> fluid. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Kitterer Bob > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. > >>>> > >>>> Bob Kitterer and Dolores > >>>> > >>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > >>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in > storage > >>>> > >>>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yes. Don't spill it! > >>>>> > >>>>> Allen Hefner From ggilomen at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 16:42:22 2011 From: ggilomen at gmail.com (Gordon Gilomen) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:42:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: The old type of rubber fuel line we had on british cars will not stand up to the ethanol we now have in our fuel. I have replaced all mine with modern fuel line that is made for ethanol based fuel. I also go on the "PURE-FUEL. " web site and find gas stations the sell gas that is ethanol free. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lee Fox wrote: > Six words: We do not have enough information. > > > On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >> >> From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets >> > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety >> >> Message-ID: > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > One word. Ethanol. > > Say hello to Jim for me... > > Cheers!! > > Jim > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, > wrote: > >>> > So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy >>> > the >>> > fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? >>> > >>> > >>> > Sent from me. > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ggilomen at gmail.com From ggilomen at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 16:42:36 2011 From: ggilomen at gmail.com (Gordon Gilomen) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:42:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gordon Gilomen wrote: > The old type of rubber fuel line we had on british cars will not stand > up to the ethanol we now have in our fuel. I have replaced all mine > with modern fuel line that is made for ethanol based fuel. I also go > on the "PURE-FUEL. " web site and find gas stations the sell gas that > is ethanol free. > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lee Fox wrote: >> Six words: We do not have enough information. >> >> >> On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >>> >>> From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety >>> >>> Message-ID: > >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> One word. Ethanol. >> >> Say hello to Jim for me... >> >> Cheers!! >> >> Jim >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, > wrote: >> >>>> > So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy >>>> > the >>>> > fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Sent from me. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ggilomen at gmail.com From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 12 17:05:25 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:05:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4E961D35.1020506@sbcglobal.net> Gordon, The OP said the hose was only six years old. It may be ethanol or not. My point was that we just don't know and we shouldn't jump to conclusion. Many of us have also experienced poor quality of rubber brake and clutch parts that are not exposed to ethanol. Maybe it's just crappy hose? Maybe it was from China? Maybe it is because of Global Warming? :) Full moon? Obama? We simply do not have enough info. Where is CSI when we need them? Lee On 10/12/2011 5:42 PM, Gordon Gilomen wrote: > The old type of rubber fuel line we had on british cars will not stand > up to the ethanol we now have in our fuel. I have replaced all mine > with modern fuel line that is made for ethanol based fuel. I also go > on the "PURE-FUEL. " web site and find gas stations the sell gas that > is ethanol free. > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lee Fox wrote: >> Six words: We do not have enough information. >> >> >> On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >>> >>> From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety >>> >>> Message-ID:> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> One word. Ethanol. >> >> Say hello to Jim for me... >> >> Cheers!! >> >> Jim >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM,> wrote: >> >>>>> So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy >>>>> the >>>>> fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from me. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ggilomen at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Wed Oct 12 17:27:16 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: <4E962254.8080809@justbrits.com> << *It's the perfect thing for a hobby car.* >> Not really, Lester. The stuff DOES 'collect' water, just SLOWER. * *<< *Not so good for a racecar.* >> True ! ! Boiling point is to low ! ! ! Ed From lists at woozy.com Wed Oct 12 18:43:26 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:43:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The world's most expensive Spridget Message-ID: <4E96342E.5000703@woozy.com> Not sure if this has been posted to the list before: http://fantasyjunction.com/cars/1104-Austin%20Healey-Sebring%20Sprite-Original%20Type%20XSP%20Factory%20Racing%20Engine or http://bit.ly/rjRlyA $135k From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Oct 12 19:38:22 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks In-Reply-To: <00ce01cc883d$c78ab280$56a01780$@com> Message-ID: <1318469902.72187.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Peter the Parts Pimp has done a great job coming up with an alternative to the original adjustable shockers. OTOH, they're nowhere near as pretty as my original Armstrong adjustables. I bought what was probably the last NOS adjustable rear shock in the late '70s when BL was selling off the last of the Special Tuning parts. I ended up with one shock and sourced the opposite side from AH Spares, that sold me a rebuilt one. They were for the MKII forward cars, but I was able to adapt them to my bugeye with a modified mounting plate. So they're very special to me. Not for any increase in performance to the Bugeye, but for the telephone call I received one evening. My wife told me I got a call from some guy named Dan Stapleton from the UK that wanted some info on my shocks. Probably shows how old I am, but at that time, an overseas call was a big deal. I called Dan back and ended up shooting some pics of the shocks that ended up in his first Spridget tuning book. So when I look under my Bugeye rear end and see the adjustable shocks, I get reminded of a long friendship with Daniel instead of an increase of rear grip on the Bugeye. Cheers, Daniel. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 10/11/11, Neil Anderson wrote: From: Neil Anderson Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 1:46 PM List, Peter Caldwell has written a highly interesting and detailed article about the fully adjustable Armstrong shocks he developed and produces for the many different cars that use Armstrongs. These are of similar concept to the original Armstrong 22s that are quite rare and hard to find these days. He markets the new shocks through his company, World Wide Imports of Madison. Here is the link to the article: http://www.sebringsprite.com/shockabsorbers.html Best, Neil Anderson N. Illinois AN5 Sebring project Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Oct 12 19:46:53 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:46:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net><975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com><832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: <7874E2D2DB74442EB6F0BFD5C0FF2865@blackbox2> My experience with LMA is that over time it crystallizes into this yellow grit that gets between the rubber seal and the walls of the wheel cylinders. I went through this twice before I converted to silicone. I will never go back. I think you are correct, the above is moisture/oxygen combining with the LMA fluid. But once it starts it becomes self perpetuating and things go down hill very quickly. But with the Silicone fluid this process does not even begin in the first place. The "safe on paint" aspect of Silicone is a double edged sword. It also prevents new paint from sticking should you inadvertently get it on a surface. It is very persistent in this regard. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Hefner Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:43 PM To: Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Well, I disagree. Water will not mix at all with sillycon. If you don't keep the moisture in your brake system in suspension in the brake fluid, it will pool at the low points and will corrode wherever it sits. Eventually it will start leaking. The good thing is that it won't eat the paint. The bad thing is that if you don't notice it, you won't be able to stop. A much better idea for safety is to change the brake fluid every other year, or if you race, after each race. Plus, see Bob K's post about how seals in our LBCs aren't made for silicone fluid. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 20:12:37 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:12:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <4E962254.8080809@justbrits.com> References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> <4E962254.8080809@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Much slower. Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:27:16 To: Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? << *It's the perfect thing for a hobby car.* >> Not really, Lester. The stuff DOES 'collect' water, just SLOWER. * *<< *Not so good for a racecar.* >> True ! ! Boiling point is to low ! ! ! Ed Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Oct 12 21:06:54 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <4E962254.8080809@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1257912228.343675.1318475214744.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Waay back, before the dawn of history, when I raced; I used to boil Castrol LMA on my mothers range top (If I only knew then how accomodating she was!) The thinking in our sports car club was by doing that we got rid of the 'junk' and raised the boiling point. Of course, we all swore that our braking was improved! Like I said ... waay back when..... -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From bkitterer at me.com Wed Oct 12 21:38:28 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:38:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: <3613AADC-BFE6-4872-8467-2F254D6FF86A@me.com> I agree that silicon and water do not like each others company. However just for information the DOT 5 fluid was in my car for 12 years and about 24-25000 miles. When I open the system up there was no sign of water. It is the first time in 50+ years of working on cars that I have not seen water damage to wheel cylinders. No explanation just observation. Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Well, I disagree. Water will not mix at all with sillycon. If you don't > keep the moisture in your brake system in suspension in the brake fluid, it > will pool at the low points and will corrode wherever it sits. Eventually > it will start leaking. The good thing is that it won't eat the paint. The > bad thing is that if you don't notice it, you won't be able to stop. > > A much better idea for safety is to change the brake fluid every other year, > or if you race, after each race. > > Plus, see Bob K's post about how seals in our LBCs aren't made for silicone > fluid. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Oct 12 21:54:07 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:54:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: <4E961D35.1020506@sbcglobal.net> References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> <4E961D35.1020506@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: My vote is Obama. ;^) Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 16:05, Lee Fox wrote: > Gordon, > The OP said the hose was only six years old. It may be ethanol or not. My point was that we just don't know and we shouldn't jump to conclusion. > > Many of us have also experienced poor quality of rubber brake and clutch parts that are not exposed to ethanol. > Maybe it's just crappy hose? > Maybe it was from China? > Maybe it is because of Global Warming? :) > Full moon? > Obama? > We simply do not have enough info. Where is CSI when we need them? > Lee > > On 10/12/2011 5:42 PM, Gordon Gilomen wrote: >> The old type of rubber fuel line we had on british cars will not stand >> up to the ethanol we now have in our fuel. I have replaced all mine >> with modern fuel line that is made for ethanol based fuel. I also go >> on the "PURE-FUEL. " web site and find gas stations the sell gas that >> is ethanol free. >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lee Fox wrote: >>> Six words: We do not have enough information. >>> >>> >>> On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets >>>> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety >>>> >>>> Message-ID:> >>>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> One word. Ethanol. >>> >>> Say hello to Jim for me... >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM,> wrote: >>> >>>>>> So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy >>>>>> the >>>>>> fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from me. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ggilomen at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Oct 12 22:02:33 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:02:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <5B5DB3BF-D4B7-4A12-9A5D-69520191F3E7@att.net> We have the same problem with the Walbro carb diaphragm used on the gasoline engines I use on my RC airplanes. VP Racing fuels make a blend of pure premium gas for these engines. Great stuff, but a little too expensive for the Bugeye. Not so bad for a 20 CC R/C engine. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 15:42, Gordon Gilomen wrote: > The old type of rubber fuel line we had on british cars will not stand > up to the ethanol we now have in our fuel. I have replaced all mine > with modern fuel line that is made for ethanol based fuel. I also go > on the "PURE-FUEL. " web site and find gas stations the sell gas that > is ethanol free. > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lee Fox wrote: >> Six words: We do not have enough information. >> >> >> On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >>> >>> From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety >>> >>> Message-ID: > >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> One word. Ethanol. >> >> Say hello to Jim for me... >> >> Cheers!! >> >> Jim >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, > wrote: >> >>>>> So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that destroy >>>>> the >>>>> fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from me. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ggilomen at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From shop at justbrits.com Wed Oct 12 22:17:07 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:17:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: <4E966643.9020703@justbrits.com> << Water will not mix at all with sillycon. >> Might I inquire WHERE you read someone saying that it did, Allen ??? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 23:43:34 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:43:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> <4E961D35.1020506@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: As Frank's Jersey Wop windshield guys put it when he, Dave Woerpel and myself learned how to do the windshield grommet on the Holy Sprite.... "!$#(&*^ing bootleg !@)#$(^ rubber !@((*@$% shit! #@$(*&%@!!!!! And all that without spilling his coffee! Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Mike MacLean wrote: > My vote is Obama. ;^) > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 16:05, Lee Fox wrote: > > > Gordon, > > The OP said the hose was only six years old. It may be ethanol or not. My > point was that we just don't know and we shouldn't jump to conclusion. > > > > Many of us have also experienced poor quality of rubber brake and clutch > parts that are not exposed to ethanol. > > Maybe it's just crappy hose? > > Maybe it was from China? > > Maybe it is because of Global Warming? :) > > Full moon? > > Obama? > > We simply do not have enough info. Where is CSI when we need them? > > Lee > > > > On 10/12/2011 5:42 PM, Gordon Gilomen wrote: > >> The old type of rubber fuel line we had on british cars will not stand > >> up to the ethanol we now have in our fuel. I have replaced all mine > >> with modern fuel line that is made for ethanol based fuel. I also go > >> on the "PURE-FUEL. " web site and find gas stations the sell gas that > >> is ethanol free. > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lee Fox wrote: > >>> Six words: We do not have enough information. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > >>>> > >>>> From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets > >>>> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety > >>>> > >>>> Message-ID:> > >>>> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> > >>> One word. Ethanol. > >>> > >>> Say hello to Jim for me... > >>> > >>> Cheers!! > >>> > >>> Jim > >>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM,> wrote: > >>> > >>>>>> So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that > destroy > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from me. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ggilomen at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From dbherrick at gmail.com Wed Oct 12 23:56:26 2011 From: dbherrick at gmail.com (Don Herrick) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:56:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 fan clutch Message-ID: For the 1500 engine, what is the conventional wisdom regarding the factory fan clutch? Mine is failing and I see where some recommend replacing the water pump/fan clutch and fan with the solid pump and fan from the 1971-74 Spitfire. I read that the UK Midgets all use this setup and I like how that solution should be much more reliable but I am concerned about the possible downsides. Is it much noisier than a working fan clutch? Is there a power loss? (I don't think I have a lot of power to spare!) Don 1979 Midget From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 00:45:28 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:45:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bathurst In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Seen this....Funny! Herb http://jalopnik.com/5848213/watch-a-nascar-legend-freak-out-in-an-australian-supercar?popular=true From grday at btinternet.com Thu Oct 13 01:33:06 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:33:06 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net><975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com><832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: I am not getting or bitching at any individual, it just happens to be this series of posts. On what basis - and that is a factual basis and not hearsay - can it be said:- seals in our Lbs. aren't made for silicone fluid. meaning they will not work. I am fed up of reading that fallacy. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- To: "Spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? > Well, I disagree. Water will not mix at all with sillycon. If you don't > keep the moisture in your brake system in suspension in the brake fluid, > it > will pool at the low points and will corrode wherever it sits. Eventually > it will start leaking. The good thing is that it won't eat the paint. > The > bad thing is that if you don't notice it, you won't be able to stop. > > A much better idea for safety is to change the brake fluid every other > year, > or if you race, after each race. > > Plus, see **** post about how seals in our LBCs aren't made for silicone > fluid. > > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM, **** wrote: > >> ... but if you don't use the car on a regular, everyday, way, Silicone >> will >> be >> there for a very long time. It's the perfect thing for a hobby car. Not >> so >> good for a racecar. >> >> >> >> On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:32 AM, **** wrote: >> >> > I'm not sure what you're saying, ****. Do the seals not seal because >> > you >> > used DOT5? Or you redid the hydraulics because the seals were no >> > longer >> > sealing and then you switched to DOT5? Or am I over-analyzing? >> > >> > Stick with DOT4 or Castrol LMA. Both have a higher boiling point than >> > DOT3. The only thing going for DOT5 is the paint thing. Water in the >> > system should not be a problem if you flush and refill it every two >> years. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, **** wrote: >> > >> >> Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic >> >> system >> a >> >> couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets >> >> waiting >> for >> >> us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another >> choice. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:07 AM, **** wrote: >> >> >> >>> As far as I know, the only "paint safe" brake fluid, is DOT 5 >> >>> Silicone >> >>> fluid. >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM, ****>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, **** wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Yes. Don't spill it! >> >>>>> > _______________________________________________ From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Thu Oct 13 04:21:28 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint In-Reply-To: <1318441476.33781.YahooMailNeo@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1318501288.38230.YahooMailClassic@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ROFLMAO! that was the kind of stuff bob & i would discuss and draw on resturaunt napkins over lunch at "take-a-taco" in fullerton pa.in the late 70's when i helped him build the '79 G/P championship car owned by gutekunst fabricators. hmm, 6:20am time to go get my school bus for yet another day in "student transportation services". i need a vacation! (or a real job?) chuck --- On Wed, 10/12/11, fastvee wrote: From: fastvee Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint To: "Martin Cooper" , "spridgets at autox.team.net" Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 1:44 PM The clutch is from the mind of Bob Griffith, BHP Developments. The flywheel was machined by a friend, the cover is a Tilton 5.5", and the driven plate is a Griffith built kevlar disc. It will be actuated with a Tilton roller release bearing adapted to a standard T.O. bearing & lever, and riding on a guide tubefabricated by me. Old school. John Fogelsville, PA ________________________________ From: Martin Cooper To: Steven Guterman Cc: fastvee ; "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fresh Paint Yes I agree, who made it for you? Martin Cooper Sent from my iPad Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu Oct 13 06:21:35 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:21:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net><975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com><832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: <4E96D7CF.5090606@justbrits.com> Guy........... << I am fed up of reading that fallacy. >> sorry to say but "fallacy" it is NOT ! ! ! Er, unless you wish to dis-associate all MGBs, the few TR-3s [both models] and the TR-4s (only non IRS) and all Big Healeys. I gave up on both sillycon AND re-building hydraulics about 9 - 11 years ago for the "failure" reason. I also know several of my contemporaries [shops] that share my experience(s). I will - as I have done a number of times previous - flat state I will never subject myself to the pure agony of installing SillySh*t into ANY car to come my way ! ! ! BTDT with my OWN Big Healey & Wife's Black Tulip MGB ! NEVER did get a good, firm pedal & WASTED a LOT of $$$$ ! ! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! From lotuspilot at frontier.com Thu Oct 13 06:47:01 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks In-Reply-To: <1927209214.397167.1318509872839.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1866932121.397197.1318510021610.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I just sold a set of NOS - yes still the copper color adjustable Bugeye part number to New Zealand. A fellow is building a Sebring I still have the Girling pedal box and front anti-roll bar. They were neat shocks. I probably should have kept them. I will pay later for selling. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Neil Anderson" Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:38:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks Peter the Parts Pimp has done a great job coming up with an alternative to the original adjustable shockers. OTOH, they're nowhere near as pretty as my original Armstrong adjustables. I bought what was probably the last NOS adjustable rear shock in the late '70s when BL was selling off the last of the Special Tuning parts. I ended up with one shock and sourced the opposite side from AH Spares, that sold me a rebuilt one. They were for the MKII forward cars, but I was able to adapt them to my bugeye with a modified mounting plate. So they're very special to me. Not for any increase in performance to the Bugeye, but for the telephone call I received one evening. My wife told me I got a call from some guy named Dan Stapleton from the UK that wanted some info on my shocks. Probably shows how old I am, but at that time, an overseas call was a big deal. I called Dan back and ended up shooting some pics of the shocks that ended up in his first Spridget tuning book. So when I look under my Bugeye rear end and see the adjustable shocks, I get reminded of a long friendship with Daniel instead of an increase of rear grip on the Bugeye. Cheers, Daniel. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 10/11/11, Neil Anderson wrote: From: Neil Anderson Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 1:46 PM List, Peter Caldwell has written a highly interesting and detailed article about the fully adjustable Armstrong shocks he developed and produces for the many different cars that use Armstrongs. These are of similar concept to the original Armstrong 22s that are quite rare and hard to find these days. He markets the new shocks through his company, World Wide Imports of Madison. Here is the link to the article: http://www.sebringsprite.com/shockabsorbers.html Best, Neil Anderson N. Illinois From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 08:09:13 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:09:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: I stand corrected. See this post from Gerard - *http://tinyurl.com/3q43h4u * I was just pasing something on without checking. My bad. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > I am not getting or bitching at any individual, it just happens to be this > series of posts. > > On what basis - and that is a factual basis and not hearsay - can it be > said:- > > seals in our Lbs. aren't made for silicone fluid. meaning > they will not work. > > I am fed up of reading that fallacy. > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- To: "Spridgets list" < > spridgets at autox.team.net> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? > > > Well, I disagree. Water will not mix at all with sillycon. If you don't >> keep the moisture in your brake system in suspension in the brake fluid, >> it >> will pool at the low points and will corrode wherever it sits. Eventually >> it will start leaking. The good thing is that it won't eat the paint. The >> bad thing is that if you don't notice it, you won't be able to stop. >> >> A much better idea for safety is to change the brake fluid every other >> year, >> or if you race, after each race. >> >> Plus, see **** post about how seals in our LBCs aren't made for silicone >> fluid. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM, **** wrote: >> >> ... but if you don't use the car on a regular, everyday, way, Silicone >>> will >>> be >>> there for a very long time. It's the perfect thing for a hobby car. Not >>> so >>> good for a racecar. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:32 AM, **** wrote: >>> >>> > I'm not sure what you're saying, ****. Do the seals not seal because > >>> you >>> > used DOT5? Or you redid the hydraulics because the seals were no > >>> longer >>> > sealing and then you switched to DOT5? Or am I over-analyzing? >>> > >>> > Stick with DOT4 or Castrol LMA. Both have a higher boiling point than >>> > DOT3. The only thing going for DOT5 is the paint thing. Water in the >>> > system should not be a problem if you flush and refill it every two >>> years. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, **** wrote: >>> > >>> >> Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic >> >>> system >>> a >>> >> couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets >> >>> waiting >>> for >>> >> us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another >>> choice. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 08:03:39 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:03:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <4E966643.9020703@justbrits.com> References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> <4E966643.9020703@justbrits.com> Message-ID: It was my original statement. I take full responsibility for it, and no one else said it on this list (recently). Here's an interesting site - *http://tinyurl.com/3hb97h * Of course, my point was that glycol brake fluid mixes with water and changes color to let you know it is time to change it. Silicone doesn't mix at all, so the water just sits there causing rust where you can't see it. I won't mention all the little air bubbles that are nearly impossible to get out of silicone brake fluid. (Or did I just do that?) I think you are trying to start something, aren't you?!? Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > ** > << Water will not mix at all with sillycon. >> > > Might I inquire WHERE you read someone saying that it did, Allen ??? From bkitterer at me.com Thu Oct 13 08:59:57 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:59:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <300DE463-07ED-4A15-A7A4-E794436BDDB5@chartermi.net> <975B5207-7E93-4968-A09A-4B6FB1439222@me.com> <832359AB-EC34-4365-8362-3EEAE1818ECC@me.com> Message-ID: When I pulled some labels off that covered another label on the seals for my brakes the lower label stated it was not for use with silicon. Went by my local LBC mechanics shop and all the brake/clutch seals were labeled the same way. This was over two years ago now. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > I am not getting or bitching at any individual, it just happens to be this series of posts. > > On what basis - and that is a factual basis and not hearsay - can it be said:- > > seals in our Lbs. aren't made for silicone fluid. meaning they will not work. > > I am fed up of reading that fallacy. > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- To: "Spridgets list" > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? > > >> Well, I disagree. Water will not mix at all with sillycon. If you don't >> keep the moisture in your brake system in suspension in the brake fluid, it >> will pool at the low points and will corrode wherever it sits. Eventually >> it will start leaking. The good thing is that it won't eat the paint. The >> bad thing is that if you don't notice it, you won't be able to stop. >> >> A much better idea for safety is to change the brake fluid every other year, >> or if you race, after each race. >> >> Plus, see **** post about how seals in our LBCs aren't made for silicone >> fluid. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM, **** wrote: >> >>> ... but if you don't use the car on a regular, everyday, way, Silicone will >>> be >>> there for a very long time. It's the perfect thing for a hobby car. Not >>> so >>> good for a racecar. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:32 AM, **** wrote: >>> >>> > I'm not sure what you're saying, ****. Do the seals not seal because > you >>> > used DOT5? Or you redid the hydraulics because the seals were no > longer >>> > sealing and then you switched to DOT5? Or am I over-analyzing? >>> > >>> > Stick with DOT4 or Castrol LMA. Both have a higher boiling point than >>> > DOT3. The only thing going for DOT5 is the paint thing. Water in the >>> > system should not be a problem if you flush and refill it every two >>> years. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, **** wrote: >>> > >>> >> Yes, have been using DOT 5 for years. When I redid my hydraulic >> system >>> a >>> >> couple of years ago none of the seals would seal so the car sets >> waiting >>> for >>> >> us to finish our adventures. Was just hoping there might be another >>> choice. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:07 AM, **** wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> As far as I know, the only "paint safe" brake fluid, is DOT 5 >>> Silicone >>> >>> fluid. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM, ****>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks, not what I would like to hear but thanks anyway. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:44 AM, **** wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Yes. Don't spill it! >>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Oct 13 10:31:40 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: <4c0d1.56bde5aa.3bc86c6b@aol.com> AP won't guarantee any parts that have been used with silicone fluids. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 13/10/2011 10:32:11 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: On what basis - and that is a factual basis and not hearsay - can it be said:- seals in our Lbs. aren't made for silicone fluid. meaning they will not work. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Oct 13 10:34:32 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: <4c2bd.16c904c2.3bc86d18@aol.com> Well I guess any moisture, water vapour etc would leave the fluid as steam. Betcha you could do this today to re-use brake fluid? 'Course brake fluid is flammable. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 13/10/2011 06:31:33 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at frontier.com writes: The thinking in our sports car club was by doing that we got rid of the 'junk' and raised the boiling point. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Oct 13 10:38:23 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks Message-ID: <4c555.75fae5a0.3bc86dff@aol.com> I'll bet that was 1990 or thereabouts. Did your wife tell you that a small boy answered the phone before she picked up the phone? 'You guys are nuts!' Weslake Monza 1330 In a message dated 13/10/2011 05:08:01 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: Peter the Parts Pimp has done a great job coming up with an alternative to the original adjustable shockers. OTOH, they're nowhere near as pretty as my original Armstrong adjustables. I bought what was probably the last NOS adjustable rear shock in the late '70s when BL was selling off the last of the Special Tuning parts. I ended up with one shock and sourced the opposite side from AH Spares, that sold me a rebuilt one. They were for the MKII forward cars, but I was able to adapt them to my bugeye with a modified mounting plate. So they're very special to me. Not for any increase in performance to the Bugeye, but for the telephone call I received one evening. My wife told me I got a call from some guy named Dan Stapleton from the UK that wanted some info on my shocks. Probably shows how old I am, but at that time, an overseas call was a big deal. I called Dan back and ended up shooting some pics of the shocks that ended up in his first Spridget tuning book. So when I look under my Bugeye rear end and see the adjustable shocks, I get reminded of a long friendship with Daniel instead of an increase of rear grip on the Bugeye. Cheers, Daniel. Rick From lists at woozy.com Thu Oct 13 11:05:59 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:05:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We tight chrome restoration Message-ID: <4E971A77.6040409@woozy.com> I came across this thread on restoring chrome without replating on a retro bicycle site. The results are pretty amazing: http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134229 Robert From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Oct 13 11:17:32 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:17:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Silicone brake fluid.. Message-ID: <17B907C3-EE72-4971-9EB2-3534F2F78129@comcast.net> Ok, a quick search turned up the following articles, well written and with explanation and testing and standards info: http://adlersantiqueautos.com/articles/brake1.html http://adlersantiqueautos.com/articles/brake2.html Lester From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 13 13:27:03 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:27:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets shtuff in Alabama auction... Message-ID: <201110131227174.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Who knew? NFI, NFC Peter C http://www.soldalabama.com/index.php?subp=1&slb=1&pid=23913&cid=6413 From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 15:13:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:13:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We tight chrome restoration In-Reply-To: <4E971A77.6040409@woozy.com> References: <4E971A77.6040409@woozy.com> Message-ID: Wow that is amazing. On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Robert Weeks wrote: > I came across this thread on restoring chrome without replating on a > retro bicycle site. The results are pretty amazing: > > http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134229 > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 13 16:08:26 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:08:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 53, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E97615A.7000207@sbcglobal.net> Don, The viscous fan clutch really does work well, but as you know, when they start to wobble they need to replaced quickly before they send the fan through the bonnet or radiator. The problem is that they are expensive ($160 plus $25 for the sleeve to install.) The solid Spitfire fan also works very well and shouldn't be terribly noisy or a significant power hog. However to make the switch you need a new water pump ($50) and fan ($50) or only about $85 less expensive. I personally do not recommend an electric fan as a substitute in your situation. The under hood temps with the 1500 and single ZS with cat converter are too great in traffic with a fan that starts and stops. It really calls for a continuous flow of air to keep things under control. I also have a 1979 Midget and when my fan clutch started to get the death wobble, I was lucky enough to find an entire engine with good clutch for less than either other option. It may not last forever, but neither will I. Plus I have lots of spare parts. Lee On 10/13/2011 9:09 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:56:26 -0700 > From: Don Herrick > To:spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 fan clutch > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > For the 1500 engine, what is the conventional wisdom regarding the factory > fan clutch? Mine is failing and I see where some recommend replacing the > water pump/fan clutch and fan with the solid pump and fan from the 1971-74 > Spitfire. I read that the UK Midgets all use this setup and I like how that > solution should be much more reliable but I am concerned about the possible > downsides. Is it much noisier than a working fan clutch? Is there a power > loss? (I don't think I have a lot of power to spare!) > > Don > 1979 Midget From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Oct 13 16:15:10 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:15:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets shtuff in Alabama auction... In-Reply-To: <201110131227174.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110131227174.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Wow. =================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:27 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets shtuff in Alabama auction... Who knew? NFI, NFC Peter C http://www.soldalabama.com/index.php?subp=1&slb=1&pid=23913&cid=6413 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From grday at btinternet.com Thu Oct 13 16:24:36 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:24:36 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? References: <4c0d1.56bde5aa.3bc86c6b@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B87054895F8440C9612CC0F9DC2525F@user8634b3d69b> Thanks Wes, I'll check with AP tomorrow morning. Do you have a department reference? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: grday at btinternet.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? AP won't guarantee any parts that have been used with silicone fluids. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 13/10/2011 10:32:11 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: On what basis - and that is a factual basis and not hearsay - can it be said:- seals in our Lbs. aren't made for silicone fluid. meaning they will not work. From Joea at wgegroup.com Thu Oct 13 16:38:53 2011 From: Joea at wgegroup.com (Joe Armour) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:38:53 +1100 Subject: [Spridgets] Bathurst Healeys Kangaroos Message-ID: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D05ED3D8@server.wgegroup.com> BATHURST Glad to see 'others' watch this event. I sat all day as I do each year. For the benefit of the Sprite listers and big Healeys, this circuit was used twicw to run an all Healey race back in 199? Chris Dimmock was one of the key players in organising this to happen. Dennis Welch came out with 'Bulldog' his European Under 3 litre Championship Healey 3000, John Chatham was entered in a locally prepared 3000 and a lot of Australian cars were prepared for an event most people thought would never happen, at least not at Bathurst. Sprites and big Healeys mixed it up and the |Sprites were not overshadowed given the 90 metre hill with the elevation change and the very long downhill straight that suited powerd cars. I was lucky enough to take part in a LeMans type car (flat out ) demonstration in the ex-works 1967/68 LeMans Sprite which was quite a buzz. I lapped in very close proximity with a Lenham bodied local car that is a regular racer in Australian sports car events. I suggest those interested do a Utube search on ; Bathurst - Lotus Cup - racing for a brilliant look at out type of cars at this circuit. And not joking, twice the race has been impacted by the V.8 Supercars either having a KANGAROO crash through the windscreen to the drivers surprise and the other time a near miss Joe Ph: (+612) 42722200 Fax: (+612) 42722310 DISCLAIMER: This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. 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Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Oct 13 17:32:39 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:32:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell Phones in the air References: , <4E9721DE.6050106@xxiii.com> <4E974B44.5050301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <94F4CB8A3211465EB28D44BC50465D30@Dell9200> The real problem using a cell phone in the air is the fact that it will "talk" to so many cell towers that it can confuse the system on the ground. Actually the FCC controls the use of a transmitter and they frown on using any land based system while in the air. That being said, I used to carry a ham radio on planes in the 70's and would ask and receive permission to phone patch my wife to come pick me up at the airport. I could call her in Atlanta from 30 thousand feet over Memphis and we would both get to the airport at the same time. In more recent years I flew with a GPS connected to a laptop map and one time had a co-pilot come back to see what I had, his comment was that my system looked better than his. Those days are gone for ever, too bad. Scott is right that a cell phone won't effect the planes nav or com but maybe 200 of them would. Mark Nashville " I have, however, flown 250,000 miles (at least) having forgotten my phone was powered up in my backpack, and the plane has never so much as hiccuped. I tend to be skeptical that a $200 million flying radio is going to be equipped with anything that has any issues with a phone's cellular radio." From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Oct 13 18:12:54 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:12:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Silicone brake fluid.. In-Reply-To: <17B907C3-EE72-4971-9EB2-3534F2F78129@comcast.net> References: <17B907C3-EE72-4971-9EB2-3534F2F78129@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5E72F168A582449BA15934D5A2ACC15E@blackbox2> Nice links Lester. I'm glad he correctly points out the downside of the hygroscopic nature of glycol based fluids. I don't buy in to any of the elastomer compatibility issues. Silicone is pretty inert stuff (just as it does not eat paint, so is it gentle on the rubber). I have disassembled brake system components that have had long silicone fluid exposures (greater than 7 years) and have seen no degradation of the rubber parts. Even if the post on Gerard's site regarding the "lack of lubricity" of silicone is true (and I think this is a total fallacy), then I will happily replace my slave rubber every few years then to have to deal with the issues associated with glycol based fluid. But I have enough usage time with silicone at this point to know that this will never happen. Nothing anyone can post or discuss will ever change my mind. I am never going back to LMA. If any of you have not tried Silicone fluid, well, sorry. You are missing out on one of the better modern breakthroughs. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:18 PM To: Spridgets list; Yahoo Sprite Subject: [Spridgets] More on Silicone brake fluid.. Ok, a quick search turned up the following articles, well written and with explanation and testing and standards info: http://adlersantiqueautos.com/articles/brake1.html http://adlersantiqueautos.com/articles/brake2.html Lester From mark at bradakis.com Thu Oct 13 19:11:24 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net service Message-ID: <20111014011124.22DB92E0E6@bradakis.com> Team.Net is going away, I'm shutting it off tomorrow morning. Okay, relax, it is only temporary. The local power company will be doing some maintenence and repairs in the area friday, October 14th. Rather than risk frying some crucial piece of hardware due to random power flucuations I'll be shutting down the servers in the morning before I go to work. I'll be bringing them back up friday evening when the power line work is done. So the email lists, amazingly outdated web pages, forums and such will be down for most of the day. All services should be back on the air late friday, so be patient. Too bad I'm not ready to cut over to the new server, this would be a good time to do so. Oh well, so it goes. Thank you for your patience. mjb. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Oct 13 19:11:34 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:11:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bathurst Healeys Kangaroos In-Reply-To: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D05ED3D8@server.wgegroup.com> References: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D05ED3D8@server.wgegroup.com> Message-ID: You'd think the locals would require the 'Roo-bars I've heard about. We even had such a setup in Corvallis, Oregon (USA) many years ago. We have no 'Roos or buzzards though; the vehicle had been imported. ...bill ================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Armour Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Bathurst Healeys Kangaroos BATHURST Glad to see 'others' watch this event. I sat all day as I do each year. For the benefit of the Sprite listers and big Healeys, this circuit was used twicw to run an all Healey race back in 199? Chris Dimmock was one of the key players in organising this to happen. Dennis Welch came out with 'Bulldog' his European Under 3 litre Championship Healey 3000, John Chatham was entered in a locally prepared 3000 and a lot of Australian cars were prepared for an event most people thought would never happen, at least not at Bathurst. Sprites and big Healeys mixed it up and the |Sprites were not overshadowed given the 90 metre hill with the elevation change and the very long downhill straight that suited powerd cars. I was lucky enough to take part in a LeMans type car (flat out ) demonstration in the ex-works 1967/68 LeMans Sprite which was quite a buzz. I lapped in very close proximity with a Lenham bodied local car that is a regular racer in Australian sports car events. I suggest those interested do a Utube search on ; Bathurst - Lotus Cup - racing for a brilliant look at out type of cars at this circuit. And not joking, twice the race has been impacted by the V.8 Supercars either having a KANGAROO crash through the windscreen to the drivers surprise and the other time a near miss Joe Ph: (+612) 42722200 Fax: (+612) 42722310 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Oct 13 19:21:32 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:21:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Bathurst Healeys Kangaroos Message-ID: <7D7026CF2A494822A041F99F84BB36BF@spider> Roo bar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roo_bars Buzzard bar Mercedes http://tinyurl.com/3n8xtcc =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:12 PM To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bathurst Healeys Kangaroos You'd think the locals would require the 'Roo-bars I've heard about. We even had such a setup in Corvallis, Oregon (USA) many years ago. We have no 'Roos or buzzards though; the vehicle had been imported. ...bill ================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Armour Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:39 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Bathurst Healeys Kangaroos BATHURST Glad to see 'others' watch this event. I sat all day as I do each year. For the benefit of the Sprite listers and big Healeys, this circuit was used twicw to run an all Healey race back in 199? Chris Dimmock was one of the key players in organising this to happen. Dennis Welch came out with 'Bulldog' his European Under 3 litre Championship Healey 3000, John Chatham was entered in a locally prepared 3000 and a lot of Australian cars were prepared for an event most people thought would never happen, at least not at Bathurst. Sprites and big Healeys mixed it up and the |Sprites were not overshadowed given the 90 metre hill with the elevation change and the very long downhill straight that suited powerd cars. I was lucky enough to take part in a LeMans type car (flat out ) demonstration in the ex-works 1967/68 LeMans Sprite which was quite a buzz. I lapped in very close proximity with a Lenham bodied local car that is a regular racer in Australian sports car events. I suggest those interested do a Utube search on ; Bathurst - Lotus Cup - racing for a brilliant look at out type of cars at this circuit. And not joking, twice the race has been impacted by the V.8 Supercars either having a KANGAROO crash through the windscreen to the drivers surprise and the other time a near miss Joe Ph: (+612) 42722200 Fax: (+612) 42722310 From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 20:53:43 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Looking for a 16" Saab Wheel Message-ID: List, My brother is looking for a 16" 5 spoke factory wheel for a 9-3 SAAB. ( It is either a 2003 or 04) If anyone has a spare they want to sell please contact me off list. Thanks Steve From shop at justbrits.com Thu Oct 13 21:47:01 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:47:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Silicone brake fluid.. In-Reply-To: <5E72F168A582449BA15934D5A2ACC15E@blackbox2> References: <17B907C3-EE72-4971-9EB2-3534F2F78129@comcast.net> <5E72F168A582449BA15934D5A2ACC15E@blackbox2> Message-ID: <4E97B0B5.7020101@justbrits.com> << You are missing out on one of the better modern breakthroughs. >> Must be the only part of " The Change " that sorta "works", huh Dean ?? Ed PS: I ain't buying " The Change" cause I've BTDT. SU*ks. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Oct 13 22:11:21 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:11:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Silicone brake fluid.. In-Reply-To: <4E97B0B5.7020101@justbrits.com> References: <17B907C3-EE72-4971-9EB2-3534F2F78129@comcast.net> <5E72F168A582449BA15934D5A2ACC15E@blackbox2> <4E97B0B5.7020101@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Uh-oh, My shop at justbrits email rule broke. That was supposed to go to the deleted items folder. Better fix that right now. -----Original Message----- From: Shop at " Just Brits " [mailto:shop at justbrits.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:47 PM To: Dean Hedin Cc: 'Spridgets list' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More on Silicone brake fluid.. << You are missing out on one of the better modern breakthroughs. >> Must be the only part of " The Change " that sorta "works", huh Dean ?? Ed PS: I ain't buying " The Change" cause I've BTDT. SU*ks. From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 04:32:47 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:32:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net service In-Reply-To: <20111014011124.22DB92E0E6@bradakis.com> References: <20111014011124.22DB92E0E6@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the notice hope all is well. I love what you're doing ; ) Lin On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Team.Net is going away, I'm shutting it off tomorrow morning. > > Okay, relax, it is only temporary. The local power company will be > doing some maintenence and repairs in the area friday, October 14th. > Rather than risk frying some crucial piece of hardware due to random > power flucuations I'll be shutting down the servers in the morning > before I go to work. I'll be bringing them back up friday evening > when the power line work is done. > > So the email lists, amazingly outdated web pages, forums and such > will be down for most of the day. All services should be back on > the air late friday, so be patient. > > Too bad I'm not ready to cut over to the new server, this would be > a good time to do so. Oh well, so it goes. > > Thank you for your patience. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Oct 14 06:18:32 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Looking for a 16" Saab Wheel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <879A2B80BC87444397D6BED5B1BD15C2@spider> They're on eBay. or http://www.junkyarddog.com/ ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steven Guterman Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:54 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Looking for a 16" Saab Wheel List, My brother is looking for a 16" 5 spoke factory wheel for a 9-3 SAAB. ( It is either a 2003 or 04) If anyone has a spare they want to sell please contact me off list. Thanks Steve _______________________________________________ From kmappley at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 07:10:48 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:10:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re What fluid for clutch Master cylinder Message-ID: Well I'm trying my darnedest to stay out of the on going ethanol debate but since I can't seem to avoid controversy I have to comment on Dot 5 fluid. I bought a 72 MGB and rebuilt it in the mid 70's. Bought it cheap with dings everywhere. The brakes were already giving the tell tale signs we are all familiar with so I completely redid them with the then new Dot 5 silicone fluid. A friend now owns that car and the brakes still work as they should and have never even been bled since my work in the 70's. I now own some cars that I have converted to Dot 5 and some cars running Dot 4. I'm trying to live with Dot 4 since I like the brake feel better. Dot 4 has a thinner viscosity that I think I prefer and recently rebuilt dual master cylinders don't seem to seal as easily though with use they seem to be reducing the amount they seep. I have been wadding up a paper towel in front of the cylinders to catch the seep and that has worked just fine. BTW I believe that Dot 5 has a higher boiling point than Dot 4 if I recall correctly. Kurt. From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 16:31:52 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:31:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing Vintage Racing Footage Message-ID: http://devour.com/video/vintage-race-car-crashes/ Most 'bodies' you see flying get up! Herb -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had 100 years ago. From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Oct 14 15:29:15 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:29:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> <4E961D35.1020506@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4E98A9AB.3010101@wi.net> That woulda been Mikieee! Mike was very patient with us midwesterners. Yessir, that was an experience! Dave W. On 10/13/2011 12:43 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > As Frank's Jersey Wop windshield guys put it when he, Dave Woerpel and > myself learned how to do the windshield grommet on the Holy Sprite.... > "!$#(&*^ing bootleg !@)#$(^ rubber !@((*@$% shit! #@$(*&%@!!!!! And > all that without spilling his coffee! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Mike MacLeanwrote: > >> My vote is Obama. ;^) >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> 02 Heritage Springer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 12, 2011, at 16:05, Lee Fox wrote: From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Oct 14 15:27:50 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:27:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety In-Reply-To: References: <4E959815.3010704@sbcglobal.net> <4E961D35.1020506@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4E98A956.7010505@wi.net> That woulda been Mikieee! Mike was very patient with us midwesterners. Yessir, that was an experience! :-) Dave W. On 10/13/2011 12:43 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > As Frank's Jersey Wop windshield guys put it when he, Dave Woerpel and > myself learned how to do the windshield grommet on the Holy Sprite.... > "!$#(&*^ing bootleg !@)#$(^ rubber !@((*@$% shit! #@$(*&%@!!!!! And > all that without spilling his coffee! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Mike MacLeanwrote: > >> My vote is Obama. ;^) >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> 02 Heritage Springer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 12, 2011, at 16:05, Lee Fox wrote: >> >>> Gordon, >>> The OP said the hose was only six years old. It may be ethanol or not. My >> point was that we just don't know and we shouldn't jump to conclusion. >>> Many of us have also experienced poor quality of rubber brake and clutch >> parts that are not exposed to ethanol. >>> Maybe it's just crappy hose? >>> Maybe it was from China? >>> Maybe it is because of Global Warming? :) >>> Full moon? >>> Obama? >>> We simply do not have enough info. Where is CSI when we need them? >>> Lee >>> >>> On 10/12/2011 5:42 PM, Gordon Gilomen wrote: >>>> The old type of rubber fuel line we had on british cars will not stand >>>> up to the ethanol we now have in our fuel. I have replaced all mine >>>> with modern fuel line that is made for ethanol based fuel. I also go >>>> on the "PURE-FUEL. " web site and find gas stations the sell gas that >>>> is ethanol free. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lee Fox wrote: >>>>> Six words: We do not have enough information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10/12/2011 12:06 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >>>>>> From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets >>>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI--Fire safety >>>>>> Message-ID:> >>>>>> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> One word. Ethanol. >>>>> >>>>> Say hello to Jim for me... >>>>> >>>>> Cheers!! >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM,> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> So, is it because the new fuel we now use have additives that >> destroy >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> fuel line or is the fuel line material less sturdy? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from me. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ggilomen at gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Oct 14 22:13:56 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re What fluid for clutch Master cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Go ahead, thrown more gas on the fire. Well, you bring up a good question Kurt. When did silicone brake fluid first appear on the automotive scene? I had no idea that it went back as far as the 70's. It must have been pretty expensive back then (it still is exspensive). I am sure it saw its first use in military aircraft (and probably much earlier). But I am curious to know who first mass marketed it for automotive use. I'll bet the story went something like this... Some racer dude is complaining to his air force buddy about his hard braking causing his fluid to boil. His military buddy says "I think I know something that can fix that..." -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kurt Appley Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:11 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Re What fluid for clutch Master cylinder Well I'm trying my darnedest to stay out of the on going ethanol debate but since I can't seem to avoid controversy I have to comment on Dot 5 fluid. I bought a 72 MGB and rebuilt it in the mid 70's. Bought it cheap with dings everywhere. The brakes were already giving the tell tale signs we are all familiar with so I completely redid them with the then new Dot 5 silicone fluid. A friend now owns that car and the brakes still work as they should and have never even been bled since my work in the 70's. I now own some cars that I have converted to Dot 5 and some cars running Dot 4. I'm trying to live with Dot 4 since I like the brake feel better. Dot 4 has a thinner viscosity that I think I prefer and recently rebuilt dual master cylinders don't seem to seal as easily though with use they seem to be reducing the amount they seep. I have been wadding up a paper towel in front of the cylinders to catch the seep and that has worked just fine. BTW I believe that Dot 5 has a higher boiling point than Dot 4 if I recall correctly. Kurt. _______________________________________________ From grday at btinternet.com Sat Oct 15 06:48:11 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:48:11 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Re What fluid for clutch Master cylinder References: Message-ID: <52484DC930AD43338A51128915FCEF9B@user8634b3d69b> Kurt, Your comments fall in line with most of those others who have used DOT 5 to replace DOT 3 or 4. BUT if you think that it is a safe or OK way of treating a weeping master cylinder by wadding paper towels beneath it I am gobsmacked!! If you know the system has failed - and weeping means it HAS FAILED - and you carry on driving it; then I for one would ask that you be treated as a murderer when the accident happens and the child dies. You KNOW they are faulty, please get them fixed. I know I have been emotive in the paragraph above but offer no apology and neither will I. For the past 30 odd years of my life I have had to deal with death caused by vehicles. You will find it hard to extract any sympathy from me. To know of a serious defect beforehand and then to carry on driving it is similar to pointing the cocked gun with a faulty trigger. Apologies for the rant but not for the content. Guy R Day ps. What seals do you need? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Appley" To: Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Re What fluid for clutch Master cylinder > Well I'm trying my darnedest to stay out of the on going ethanol debate > but > since I can't seem to avoid controversy I have to comment on Dot 5 fluid. > I > bought a 72 MGB and rebuilt it in the mid 70's. Bought it cheap with dings > everywhere. The brakes were already giving the tell tale signs we are all > familiar with so I completely redid them with the then new Dot 5 silicone > fluid. > > A friend now owns that car and the brakes still work as they should and > have > never even been bled since my work in the 70's. > > I now own some cars that I have converted to Dot 5 and some cars running > Dot > 4. I'm trying to live with Dot 4 since I like the brake feel better. Dot 4 > has a thinner viscosity that I think I prefer and recently rebuilt dual > master cylinders don't seem to seal as easily though with use they seem to > be reducing the amount they seep. I have been wadding up a paper towel in > front of the cylinders to catch the seep and that has worked just fine. > BTW > I believe that Dot 5 has a higher boiling point than Dot 4 if I recall > correctly. > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 10:10:40 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal and Wiper Mounting Message-ID: <1318695040.19512.YahooMailNeo@web160320.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I'm having an issue with the Turn Signal and Wiper stalks rotating when solidly screwed do to the steeing column on Bugsy my '68 Sprite. I cleaned up the column, secured everything in the little indent for the stalks and tightened everything down. It seems as if the entire stalk assembly possibly by design rotates about 1/4" to some little stops I see on the steering column itself. Is this correct or is there sometine else loose I need to tighten up. Still have not gotten turn signals working ut finally back at it again. FLashers work appears I am not getting power to the signal stalk. Got to pull apart the wiring from the flasher to the signals. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Oct 15 10:58:32 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: <3285.15d424b.3bcb15b8@aol.com> Do you suppose AP would guarantee their parts when used with a type of brake fluid they don't recommend you use? AP's racing division make brake fluids with a higher boiling point than DOT 5 so I guess they don't see a need to make a silicone brake fluid. I think the previous comments from the list make clear why it's not suitable for race use. I don't manufacture or sell brake fluid and no-one gives me it free so I don't have an axe to grind. If people want to use silicone brake fluid, being a produce the manufacture of the parts it is going to be used with don't recommmend, that's up to them. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 14/10/2011 21:57:39 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: Hi Wes, AP products do NOT RECOMMEND their parts to be used with silicone fluid. I haven't seen anything about a guarantee rejection. It is also noted they do not make or supply a DOT 5 fluid. _http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Additional%2Fhealth+%26+Safet y+Information_88_ (http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Additional/health+&+Safety+Information_88) I've had a good trawl around the net for both DOT 5 manufacturers and with brake seal manufacturers and I've started getting replies from their technical bods. SO FAR there the same two camps that are here on the Spridget (et al) sites. Those who DON'T supply it say it is it is a product that is not fit for use. Those who DO make it and / or sell it say it is the best thing since sliced bread! One I have got back says its properties make it unsuitable for race use but doesn't say what these negative properties are. A couple of manufacturers say the product has improved since they started manufacturing it but haven't said why. Only one has firmly emphasised the need to have new seals AND to flush the pipes out with THEIR cleaning fluid before use. There has been no replies from seal manufacturers as yet and the change over of rubber types for seals could be playing a part in this. As far as I am concerned we are back in the trenches, there are both for and against camps, all have their own axe to grind. Guy R Day From lists at woozy.com Sat Oct 15 12:10:15 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:10:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough Message-ID: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> Hi All, I finally got my Midget started but am having a hard time getting it running right. I can get the car to idle pretty smoothly around 1000 rpm. Below that it starts getting rough. The biggest problem I'm running into is when I've taken it on test runs up the street. The car sputters and looses power above 3000 rpm. Letting off the gas for a few moments will clear things up but then as soon as the gas pedal is pressed it stumbles and looses power again. Almost sounds like it is backfiring but I have a cherry bomb on the car so it's hard to tell. The car is a 1970 MG. New aftermarket electronic gas pump. New distributor with Crane electronic ignition. New sparkplugs properly gapped. I'm using Frank's "set it where it runs best" method for the distributor timing and was trying to use the John Twist method (see youtube for University motors videos) for adjusting the carbs (SUs). Any ideas on getting this running better would be appreciated. Accelerating from idle in the driveway is smooth, but accelerating under load is pretty horrible. Thanks, Robert From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 12:51:28 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Column Surround/ Loose cluster Message-ID: <1318704688.19727.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Found the answer, spare column does the same thing. Must be a designed in thing to allow the TS to give a little, about a 1/4". From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Oct 15 14:14:10 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar Message-ID: <1318709650.64946.YahooMailClassic@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> O.K., it's that time of year again. The first respondent to this email will get the new BNSF 2012 train calendar free. I get enough of trains every day! I don't want my walls adorned with them at home. Some say I am compartmentalizing my life, but I don't care. When I retire in 5 1/2 years, I don't want to see, hear of be near a railroad. It all starts with getting rid of this calendar. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer (my other car is a 4400 HP locomotive) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Oct 15 14:36:41 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:36:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> References: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> Message-ID: Distributor advance isn't right; maybe an air leak below 1000rpm? Balancing SU carbs...billie bob method: Once you rule out air leaks . . . 1. warm up engine 2. Screw up mixture nuts all the way and then down 2 turns. up = leaner, down = richer. (this is the nut at the bottom of the carb) 3. loosen up throttle shaft couplings 4. adjust idles so carb air intake is the same, engine running (use Unisync) 5. run adjuster nut down until smooth running; or up until rough running and then back down 6. adjust idles so they are the same(repeat back and forth steps 4 thru 6) Stall indicates other carb is too lean when you push up the piston pin at the side of the carb (so you'd turn down on its richness adjustment screw) 7. do a final idle check on both carbs using Unisync. 8. tighten nuts on throttle shafts If you need to avoid blocking holes on face of carb with Unisync base, cut off both ends of a can. I use and old STP Gas Treatment can (8 oz.) or a Hunt's Tomato Paste can (6 oz.) Rubber tape around the card end can prevent air leakage there if that appears to be a problem. . . . bill in oregon ============================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 11:10 AM To: Spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough Hi All, I finally got my Midget started but am having a hard time getting it running right. I can get the car to idle pretty smoothly around 1000 rpm. Below that it starts getting rough. The biggest problem I'm running into is when I've taken it on test runs up the street. The car sputters and looses power above 3000 rpm. Letting off the gas for a few moments will clear things up but then as soon as the gas pedal is pressed it stumbles and looses power again. Almost sounds like it is backfiring but I have a cherry bomb on the car so it's hard to tell. The car is a 1970 MG. New aftermarket electronic gas pump. New distributor with Crane electronic ignition. New sparkplugs properly gapped. I'm using Frank's "set it where it runs best" method for the distributor timing and was trying to use the John Twist method (see youtube for University motors videos) for adjusting the carbs (SUs). Any ideas on getting this running better would be appreciated. Accelerating from idle in the driveway is smooth, but accelerating under load is pretty horrible. Thanks, Robert Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From Two00mph at aol.com Sat Oct 15 15:06:22 2011 From: Two00mph at aol.com (Two00mph at aol.com) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest Message-ID: FS: Big Healey BJ7-BJ8 convert top and tonneau Not having any response from the Healey websites, hoping one of you know someone who can use these... proceeds will go toward finishing my '67 Sprite ! 1. New convertible top for late BJ7 and all BJ8 big Healeys. Zip out rear window, high-quality supple vinyl (not the cheaper thick vinyl), with tight grain and correct grey underside. Brand new in original box. $450+/- from Moss. How's $300 plus first $20 in UPS from NC. 2) Nearly new tonneau cover for BJ7, BJ8. Looks like it wa put on the car a time ort two, but as new. Supple vinyl, zipper as new, proper grey backing with correct horsehair-like padding on rear underside. No part numbers evident, so not sure if OEM or replacement. $425+/- from Moss. How's $285 plus first $20 in UPS from NC. Photos upon request. Thanks for looking, please reply to two00mph at aol dot com Mike From grbyrns at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 15:45:26 2011 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:45:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale Message-ID: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> My wife would let me buy it, but there's nowhere to put it. We've ridden it several times over the years and it took guests to oldest daughter's wedding. Oh well, check it out. Obviously it's local to me if anyone wants tons of pics or a test drive report. http://bargainbarn.ucdavis.edu/4sale/images/166059.jpg Glen Byrns From grbyrns at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 14:46:55 2011 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:46:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? Message-ID: Any opinions on the desirability of the Saab Sonnet MkIV? A runner and parts car can be mine for $600. Glen Byrns From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Oct 15 16:16:35 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar Winner! Message-ID: <1318716995.45129.YahooMailClassic@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Dick Byrne was the first to answer this year's calendar contest. Congrats to Dick. Anyone that really must have one of these, I have to pay for additional calendars. Price is $11.25 and that includes the postage direct from BNSF to you. I can order as many as I want at this price, but I would like to order them all at one time, so let me know in the next few days if you want one. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer 2012 General Electric ES44C4 210 ton locomotive From grday at btinternet.com Sat Oct 15 16:52:39 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:52:39 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? References: <3285.15d424b.3bcb15b8@aol.com> Message-ID: <426B6BA8A8C34553B8D6EDAAF329EA24@user8634b3d69b> Hi Wes, Whilst you are probably right it is a question that must be put to AP, I wouldn't want to change their wording or put words in their mouth. I'll ask them. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: grday at btinternet.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Do you suppose AP would guarantee their parts when used with a type of brake fluid they don't recommend you use? AP's racing division make brake fluids with a higher boiling point than DOT 5 so I guess they don't see a need to make a silicone brake fluid. I think the previous comments from the list make clear why it's not suitable for race use. I don't manufacture or sell brake fluid and no-one gives me it free so I don't have an axe to grind. If people want to use silicone brake fluid, being a produce the manufacture of the parts it is going to be used with don't recommmend, that's up to them. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 14/10/2011 21:57:39 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: Hi Wes, AP products do NOT RECOMMEND their parts to be used with silicone fluid. I haven't seen anything about a guarantee rejection. It is also noted they do not make or supply a DOT 5 fluid. http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Additional%2Fhealth+%26+Safety+Information_88 I've had a good trawl around the net for both DOT 5 manufacturers and with brake seal manufacturers and I've started getting replies from their technical bods. SO FAR there the same two camps that are here on the Spridget (et al) sites. Those who DON'T supply it say it is it is a product that is not fit for use. Those who DO make it and / or sell it say it is the best thing since sliced bread! One I have got back says its properties make it unsuitable for race use but doesn't say what these negative properties are. A couple of manufacturers say the product has improved since they started manufacturing it but haven't said why. Only one has firmly emphasised the need to have new seals AND to flush the pipes out with THEIR cleaning fluid before use. There has been no replies from seal manufacturers as yet and the change over of rubber types for seals could be playing a part in this. As far as I am concerned we are back in the trenches, there are both for and against camps, all have their own axe to grind. Guy R Day From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Oct 15 17:52:50 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:52:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <76295DFD28AC40E2B89067BA4F5CA1EF@spider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonett http://www.saabsonett.org/ http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/bb/sonett/ one N, two T's :-) ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:47 PM To: spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? Any opinions on the desirability of the Saab Sonnet MkIV? A runner and parts car can be mine for $600. Glen Byrns _______________________________________________ From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 18:03:53 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:03:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> References: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've seen one converted into a mobile Ice-cream shop. I have a friend that owns a chain of ice-cream/dessert shops. Since he also has a collection of British cars I thought it'd be a no-brainer. But I've yet to be able to convince him. I think he knows that I'm just trying to talk him into it so that I can drive the bus. ;) On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > My wife would let me buy it, but there's nowhere to put it. We've ridden it > several times over the years and it took guests to oldest daughter's > wedding. > Oh well, check it out. Obviously it's local to me if anyone wants tons of > pics > or a test drive report. > > > > http://bargainbarn.ucdavis.edu/4sale/images/166059.jpg > > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 15 18:11:49 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:11:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> References: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> Message-ID: <07189050F9064C93951D0512068344A7@HomePC> That would be great for tailgating! -----Original Message----- From: Glen Byrns Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:45 PM To: spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale My wife would let me buy it, but there's nowhere to put it. We've ridden it several times over the years and it took guests to oldest daughter's wedding. Oh well, check it out. Obviously it's local to me if anyone wants tons of pics or a test drive report. http://bargainbarn.ucdavis.edu/4sale/images/166059.jpg Glen Byrns Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 18:23:18 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprites at Sebring -1962 Message-ID: <1318724598.75557.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Some nice pics from the Nigel Smuckatelli site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/5839613904/in/photostream/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/5839062415/in/photostream/lightbox/ Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 18:53:01 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:53:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - German Bike Message-ID: Some of you may remember that I like to fiddle with bikes. Monday at lunch, I bought a late 70's, early 80's Prophete Sportiv. I already have a buyer driving up from Houston to buy it tomorrow. If anyone is interested in seeing the finished product, I would gladly send you photos. Contact me off list. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 18:59:40 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks Message-ID: <1318726780.76459.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Daniel, There was probably some discussion about how crazy Sprite guys were. But I think it was sometime after I crawled under the bugeye and removed the rear shock so I could shoot some pics for you. The take away from this story is how much spridget folks are similar around the world. We all tend to value how much these cars achieved while being at the bottom end of the sports car market. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 10/13/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks To: healeyrick at yahoo.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 12:38 PM I'll bet that was 1990 or thereabouts. Did your wife tell you that a small boy answered the phone before she picked up the phone? 'You guys are nuts!' Weslake Monza 1330 In a message dated 13/10/2011 05:08:01 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: Peter the Parts Pimp has done a great job coming up with an alternative to the original adjustable shockers. OTOH, they're nowhere near as pretty as my original Armstrong adjustables. I bought what was probably the last NOS adjustable rear shock in the late '70s when BL was selling off the last of the Special Tuning parts. I ended up with one shock and sourced the opposite side from AH Spares, that sold me a rebuilt one. They were for the MKII forward cars, but I was able to adapt them to my bugeye with a modified mounting plate. So they're very special to me. Not for any increase in performance to the Bugeye, but for the telephone call I received one evening. My wife told me I got a call from some guy named Dan Stapleton from the UK that wanted some info on my shocks. Probably shows how old I am, but at that time, an overseas call was a big deal. I called Dan back and ended up shooting some pics of the shocks that ended up in his first Spridget tuning book. So when I look under my Bugeye rear end and see the adjustable shocks, I get reminded of a long friendship with Daniel instead of an increase of rear grip on the Bugeye. Cheers, Daniel. Rick From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Oct 15 19:01:13 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 01:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1435091141.378120.1318726873613.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Depends how badly you desire it.. There's three daily drivers in this town, and one that's never moved about 6 doors down. I've always liked the looks and it handles like a '50-60's sports car.. My 2c worth.. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Glen Byrns" wrote: > Any opinions on the desirability of the Saab Sonnet MkIV? A runner and > parts car can be mine for $600. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 19:07:10 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1318727230.76622.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I bet you could load 3 or 4 spridgets in her and use her as a transporter. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 10/15/11, Glen Byrns wrote: From: Glen Byrns Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale To: "spridget list" Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 5:45 PM My wife would let me buy it, but there's nowhere to put it. We've ridden it several times over the years and it took guests to oldest daughter's wedding. Oh well, check it out. Obviously it's local to me if anyone wants tons of pics or a test drive report. http://bargainbarn.ucdavis.edu/4sale/images/166059.jpg Glen Byrns Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 19:15:11 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar In-Reply-To: <1318709650.64946.YahooMailClassic@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mike, Funny how when we think about retirement so much is directed to what we don't want to do ever again instead of what we want to do in the future. I've got a laundry list, including not wanting to take the 1.5 hr drive to work any more. I'm looking forward to living at the beach, surrounded by hot babes, fine Irish whiskey, and little british cars. Reality might be much different, but I can dream, can't I? Your pal, Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 10/15/11, Michael MacLean wrote: From: Michael MacLean Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 4:14 PM O.K., it's that time of year again. The first respondent to this email will get the new BNSF 2012 train calendar free. I get enough of trains every day! I don't want my walls adorned with them at home. Some say I am compartmentalizing my life, but I don't care. When I retire in 5 1/2 years, I don't want to see, hear of be near a railroad. It all starts with getting rid of this calendar. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer (my other car is a 4400 HP locomotive) Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Oct 15 19:35:32 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: <76295DFD28AC40E2B89067BA4F5CA1EF@spider> Message-ID: <1318728932.92404.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Paging Chuck Christ. A runner for 6 bills? I'd snap it up. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo Any opinions on the desirability of the Saab Sonnet MkIV? A runner and parts car can be mine for $600. Glen Byrns From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Oct 15 19:53:58 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:53:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <3285.15d424b.3bcb15b8@aol.com> References: <3285.15d424b.3bcb15b8@aol.com> Message-ID: I don't think it's a question of race use. It's more a question of what's better for older cars. Read through this... http://forums.aaca.org/f138/dot-5-brake-fluid-247226.html "After putting it in my 65 mustang 30 years ago the requirement for brake system work stopped. I also have a jeep that has had it in for 36 years no problems for either of them." "I use it in all my old cars with no problems. It's been in my Vette for 20 years with no leaks or corrosion" "I have four wheel disc on my 442 and have used .5 for 12 years with no problems." "With dot 5 it will probably never corrode so for a vehicle which is infrequently used, dot 5 is the brake fluid of choice." The above, along with the other testimonials posted here by me and other list members who have used silicone for an extended period of time are pretty hard to argue with. It just makes the problems go away. Makes the hydraulics one less thing to f with and spend more time enjoying the car on the road. Who cares what AP says? Now, if you race every weekend then go ahead, run the glycol. Flush the fluid every year, rebuild wheels cylinders every couple of years, whatever. But if your car has an antique plate and is otherwise parked during the off season, you will be much better off running silicone fluid. -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Do you suppose AP would guarantee their parts when used with a type of brake fluid they don't recommend you use? AP's racing division make brake fluids with a higher boiling point than DOT 5 so I guess they don't see a need to make a silicone brake fluid. 001 at comcast.net From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 20:13:47 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:13:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Go for it, Glen. At that price you can sell it later if you can't 'get into it'. Herb On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Any opinions on the desirability of the Saab Sonnet MkIV? A runner and > parts > car can be mine for $600. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Oct 15 20:39:43 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:39:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: <1435091141.378120.1318726873613.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1435091141.378120.1318726873613.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <41D06BB7-02AD-4C35-BA43-2FABEC271233@comcast.net> umm.. since Chuck hasn't chimed in let me.. There isn't a MK IV Sonett. There were 6 Sonett's made which are now referred to as Sonett I's There are Sonett II's which are 3 cylinder 2 stroke cars, Then there are Sonett V4's which are VERY similar visually to Sonett II's but have a hood bulge for the Ford V4 Lastly there are Sonett III's which are MUCH more angular and many were made. They always look good as the fiberglas doesn't rust, just all that pesky metal underneath. For $ 600 how wrong can ya go. There are good SAAB groups out there and whatever you need can be had. Lester Former Pres of SAAB CLub of North America Owner of: 3 Sonett II's (of 250 produced) 1 Sonett V4 3 Sonett III's On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Depends how badly you desire it.. > There's three daily drivers in this town, and one that's never moved about 6 doors down. > I've always liked the looks and it handles like a '50-60's sports car.. > > My 2c worth.. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- "Glen Byrns" wrote: > >> Any opinions on the desirability of the Saab Sonnet MkIV? A runner and >> parts car can be mine for $600. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From kmappley at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 20:53:33 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:53:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: Well here we go again! To Guy: I change the wadded up paper towel once annually whether I need to or not. If the system was old and started to weep I would immediately be alarmed but since it is newly rebuilt I am not concerned. I check the reservoir regularly. There are far more hazardous vehicles on the road than I. To others: As I mentioned to Dean, when I rebuilt the MGB brakes with Dot 5 I did not change the clutch system over since it was not giving trouble and would have been more difficult to flush out with alcohol. Since that time the car has had the clutch master replaced twice and the slave rebuilt at least once. I think that is a fairly good comparison of the fluids. Kurt. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 21:21:13 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:21:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> References: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> Message-ID: There's one here parked in front of The Londoner pub. It isn't as nice looking as that one, though. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 15 21:20:24 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most remarkable car designs ever? Message-ID: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2048213/Porsche-356-Bentley- S1-Are-remarkable-car-designs-ever.html From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 21:35:14 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:35:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <3285.15d424b.3bcb15b8@aol.com> Message-ID: Did anyone mention the fact that on race cars, brake fluid is changed frequently. Unlike our cars...which may go decades. Herb From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Oct 15 21:50:31 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:50:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar In-Reply-To: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> Your closer to it than I'll ever be. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2011, at 18:15, HealeyRick wrote: > Mike, > > Funny how when we think about retirement so much is directed to what we don't want to do ever again instead of what we want to do in the future. I've got a laundry list, including not wanting to take the 1.5 hr drive to work any more. I'm looking forward to living at the beach, surrounded by hot babes, fine Irish whiskey, and little british cars. Reality might be much different, but I can dream, can't I? > > Your pal, > > Rick > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sat, 10/15/11, Michael MacLean wrote: > > From: Michael MacLean > Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 4:14 PM > > O.K., it's that time of year again. The first respondent to this email will > get the new BNSF 2012 train calendar free. I get enough of trains every day! > I don't want my walls adorned with them at home. Some say I am > compartmentalizing my life, but I don't care. When I retire in 5 1/2 years, I > don't want to see, hear of be near a railroad. It all starts with getting rid > of this calendar. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > (my other car is a 4400 HP locomotive) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 22:34:06 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:34:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most remarkable car designs ever? In-Reply-To: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> References: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> Message-ID: I'd kill for any of them! Well, you know what I mean. Herb From shop at justbrits.com Sat Oct 15 22:35:08 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:35:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> References: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E9A5EFC.6050809@justbrits.com> POC, Glen !!!!! 8-) 8-) << ...but there's nowhere to put it. >> CONVERT it ! ! ! 8-) :-) ;-) Bugeye on top deck [requires 'lift' ala NASCAR, IndyCar, etc.] Morris on lower. Adapt 'lift' for off-loading to either 'deck' ! ! ! ! ! ! ANON aka Ain't NO WAY I'm putting M name to above ! LOL From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 22:35:13 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:35:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: References: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> Message-ID: There is one in Gold Hill; 20 miles away. May be for sale. Herb On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:21 PM, derf wrote: > There's one here parked in front of The Londoner pub. It isn't as > nice looking as that one, though. From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 22:38:01 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:38:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: <41D06BB7-02AD-4C35-BA43-2FABEC271233@comcast.net> References: <1435091141.378120.1318726873613.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <41D06BB7-02AD-4C35-BA43-2FABEC271233@comcast.net> Message-ID: 7 Sonetts...Holly smokes, Lester. > Lester > Former Pres of SAAB CLub of North America > Owner of: > > 3 Sonett II's (of 250 produced) > 1 Sonett V4 > 3 Sonett III's From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 22:50:44 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:50:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Question Message-ID: In G-mail, how do you retrieve a message after (by mistake) hitting "archive"? Where the heck did it go??? Feeling stupid here.... Herb Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had 100 years ago. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Oct 15 23:29:08 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar In-Reply-To: <29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> Message-ID: <1333556859.379334.1318742948353.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Well... At least I ended up with a trio of LBC.s -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > I'm looking forward to living at the beach, surrounded by hot > babes, fine Irish whiskey, and little british cars. Reality might be much > different, From shop at justbrits.com Sun Oct 16 00:05:23 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 01:05:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: References: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> Message-ID: <4E9A7423.105@justbrits.com> << Balancing SU carbs...billie bob method: >> Yer the guy that creates probs with far, far too many NEEDLESS keystrokes, Bill ! ! Balancing SU carbs... = R.T.F.M. ! ! ! 8-) << ...Unisync... >> WHAT pray tell is DAT ?? The 'instrument' pictured in 90% of LBC catalogs and been around over 50 years known as "UniSyn" ?? O:-) ?? :-\ Or have we found out you are from Oz - aka Down Under and only "speak" the language ?!?!? =-O 8-) :-[ If it IS different, plz send me a pic or two & I'll put up for all ! ! << If you need to avoid blocking holes on face of carb with Unisync base... >> Only one (1) hole matters ! ! ! And I know of NO way one could block the 'hole' off [completely] !?!? Ed From shop at justbrits.com Sun Oct 16 00:31:23 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 01:31:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <3285.15d424b.3bcb15b8@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E9A7A3B.9000004@justbrits.com> << Unlike our cars...which may go decades. >> IF that were true Herb, the answer is one of two (2) things ! ! ! 1] The car owner is absolutely the LUCKIEST Owner in the UNIVERSE; 2] The car owner has the single BIGGEST Death Wish in the Universe. Me PS: Oooops, left out STUPIDEST 'driver', 'cause car had NO clutch to get tranny in gear ! PSS: Oooops, left out STUPIDEST 'driver', 'cause car had NO brakes at end of garage ! From shop at justbrits.com Sun Oct 16 00:56:37 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 01:56:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar In-Reply-To: <29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> References: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> Message-ID: <4E9A8025.8010203@justbrits.com> << Your closer to it than I'll ever be. >> NAH Mike, at least you've got one (1) each [so does Rick] Little & Big Healey but you've got a 02 Heritage Springer AND you made it to Lake of the Ozarks !!!!!!!! One CAN'T beat my first 'line' and FOR SURE can't beat LotO ! ! ! Ed '63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey) History: Fourteen - IIRC - Frogeyes including a '62 bought BRAND NEW, NEVER Titled Red one with Tonneau cover and a AM Radio hung up under dash near passenger's BIG toe that only a CURRENT NBA player could reach ! ! ! Antenna in a hose and taped [ HOW they did that I'll NEVER know ] to wiper drive cable housing ! ! !! Twelve - still have one (1) F.S. - EL Camino's ! ! ! [DAMN, I miss Amber ! !] Forget the rest - I wish I could as ALL had something GREAT about them !! From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Oct 16 01:10:33 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:10:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar In-Reply-To: <4E9A8025.8010203@justbrits.com> References: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> <4E9A8025.8010203@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <9CF1623A-07AF-4400-81B6-F7DE994701BB@att.net> Nah! I meant the broads. ;^) Mike Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2011, at 23:56, "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" wrote: > << Your closer to it than I'll ever be. >> > > NAH Mike, at least you've got one (1) each [so does Rick] Little & Big Healey > but you've got a 02 Heritage Springer AND you made it to Lake of the Ozarks !!!!!!!! > > One CAN'T beat my first 'line' and FOR SURE can't beat LotO ! ! ! > > Ed > '63 BJ-7 (Hortense THE Healey) > History: > Fourteen - IIRC - Frogeyes including a '62 bought BRAND NEW, NEVER Titled > Red one with Tonneau cover and a AM Radio hung up under dash near passenger's > BIG toe that only a CURRENT NBA player could reach ! ! ! Antenna in a hose and taped [ HOW they did that I'll NEVER know ] to wiper drive cable housing ! ! !! > Twelve - still have one (1) F.S. - EL Camino's ! ! ! [DAMN, I miss Amber ! !] > Forget the rest - I wish I could as ALL had something GREAT about them !! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 04:03:44 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:03:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar In-Reply-To: <29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> References: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> Message-ID: I can tell you with certainty, that is you choose to retire to a small fishing village in Mexico, as I do, LBC's WILL NOT be in your future. The "topes" or speed bumps, that proliferate the entire hwy system in Mexico, will KILL your car, as most of them range from 6" to 8" in height. Unless of course, you set your car body on a Geo Tracker running gear.... Just my two pesos Brad (heading back to Mexico, to help clean up after hurricane Jova) Fornal On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Mike MacLean wrote: > Your closer to it than I'll ever be. > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 15, 2011, at 18:15, HealeyRick wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > Funny how when we think about retirement so much is directed to what we > don't want to do ever again instead of what we want to do in the future. > I've > got a laundry list, including not wanting to take the 1.5 hr drive to work > any > more. I'm looking forward to living at the beach, surrounded by hot babes, > fine Irish whiskey, and little british cars. Reality might be much > different, > but I can dream, can't I? > > > > Your pal, > > > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > > > --- On Sat, 10/15/11, Michael MacLean wrote: > > > > From: Michael MacLean > > Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 4:14 PM > > > > O.K., it's that time of year again. The first respondent to this email > will > > get the new BNSF 2012 train calendar free. I get enough of trains every > day! > > I don't want my walls adorned with them at home. Some say I am > > compartmentalizing my life, but I don't care. When I retire in 5 1/2 > years, > I > > don't want to see, hear of be near a railroad. It all starts with > getting > rid > > of this calendar. > > Mike MacLean > > 60 Sprite > > 56 BN2 > > 02 Heritage Springer > > (my other car is a 4400 HP locomotive) > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 04:12:39 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:12:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: <4E9A7423.105@justbrits.com> References: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> <4E9A7423.105@justbrits.com> Message-ID: When I balance my carbies last week, the only problem I had with the unisyn, was that I didn't have it centered correctly. Merely watching the red indicator cap in the sight tube, and moving the unisyn slightly over the carb throat, I was able to observe where the flow was optimal, before starting my settings. Here is a great tutorial from the VTR web page. http://www.vtr.org/maintain/carbs.shtml Brad On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Balancing SU carbs...billie bob method: >> > > Yer the guy that creates probs with far, far too many NEEDLESS keystrokes, > Bill ! ! > > Balancing SU carbs... = R.T.F.M. ! ! ! 8-) > > > > << ...Unisync... >> > > WHAT pray tell is DAT ?? The 'instrument' pictured in 90% of LBC catalogs > and been around over 50 years known as "UniSyn" ?? O:-) ?? > :-\ > Or have we found out you are from Oz - aka Down Under and only "speak" > the language ?!?!? =-O 8-) :-[ > > If it IS different, plz send me a pic or two & I'll put up for all ! ! > > << If you need to avoid blocking holes on face of carb with Unisync base... > >> > > Only one (1) hole matters ! ! ! And I know of NO way one could block the > 'hole' off [completely] !?!? > > Ed > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/tequila.**brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From grday at btinternet.com Sun Oct 16 06:19:36 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:19:36 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar References: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> Message-ID: <11968A84758E4239954B683F61E12015@user8634b3d69b> I use a couple of photos I took of these things as pictures in a talk about work to show that our speed humps are not too bad! Have you noticed the presence of a garage within 50 yards of a line of those things? They always advertise exhausts, tires and suspension repairs! With the car I used you could get wheels on one side between the lumps but the other always smacked against one. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Mike MacLean" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar >I can tell you with certainty, that is you choose to retire to a small > fishing village in Mexico, as I do, LBC's WILL NOT be in your future. > The "topes" or speed bumps, that proliferate the entire hwy system in > Mexico, will KILL your car, as most of them range from 6" to 8" in height. > Unless of course, you set your car body on a Geo Tracker running gear.... > Just my two pesos > > Brad (heading back to Mexico, to help clean up after hurricane Jova) > Fornal > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Mike MacLean > wrote: > >> Your closer to it than I'll ever be. >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 15, 2011, at 18:15, HealeyRick wrote: >> >> > Mike, >> > >> > Funny how when we think about retirement so much is directed to what we >> don't want to do ever again instead of what we want to do in the future. >> I've >> got a laundry list, including not wanting to take the 1.5 hr drive to >> work >> any >> more. I'm looking forward to living at the beach, surrounded by hot >> babes, >> fine Irish whiskey, and little british cars. Reality might be much >> different, >> but I can dream, can't I? >> > >> > Your pal, >> > >> > Rick >> > >> > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >> > >> > --- On Sat, 10/15/11, Michael MacLean wrote: >> > >> > From: Michael MacLean >> > Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar >> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> > Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 4:14 PM >> > >> > O.K., it's that time of year again. The first respondent to this email >> will >> > get the new BNSF 2012 train calendar free. I get enough of trains >> > every >> day! >> > I don't want my walls adorned with them at home. Some say I am >> > compartmentalizing my life, but I don't care. When I retire in 5 1/2 >> years, >> I >> > don't want to see, hear of be near a railroad. It all starts with >> getting >> rid >> > of this calendar. >> > Mike MacLean >> > 60 Sprite >> > 56 BN2 >> > 02 Heritage Springer >> > (my other car is a 4400 HP locomotive) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > http://tequilabrad.com/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 07:36:43 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:36:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most remarkable car designs ever? In-Reply-To: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> References: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> Message-ID: If the Lamborghini guys "studied the Mini" then that would make the Mini remarkable. One might claim that the Mini should be in the top 10 or even top 5 most remarkable car designs ever. If you trace the heritage as such: Sprite > Midget > MGB > Miata (I know there is a jump there and it might be a stretch) then you might say the Sprite was more remarkable than all the rest. They are getting close to a million Miatas made and they are still making them. You can say the Sprite was the spawning of the inexpensive two seat sports car and the Miata is definitely the modern equivalent of that. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 07:37:49 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:37:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: <4E9A5EFC.6050809@justbrits.com> References: <04B8D11A-94E4-4B1E-A028-C7B806459B39@gmail.com> <4E9A5EFC.6050809@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Something like this: http://image.europeancarweb.com/f/9331098/0208_20zoom+Ferrari_transporter_truck+front_right.jpg From peter at nosimport.com Sun Oct 16 07:56:57 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:56:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks In-Reply-To: <1318726780.76459.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo .com> References: <1318726780.76459.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201110160656264.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> This is a cool article and the opening Bugeye picture is.... well. upsetting LOL http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Shock%20Catalog.pdf After page 3 it's just stuff....... Peter C From shop at justbrits.com Sun Oct 16 08:32:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:32:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2012 Train Calendar In-Reply-To: <11968A84758E4239954B683F61E12015@user8634b3d69b> References: <1318727711.10777.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><29E318CE-E5AE-48CF-8843-1BD50C60525C@att.net> <11968A84758E4239954B683F61E12015@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <4E9AEAFB.6040507@justbrits.com> << ...I took of these things as pictures in a talk about work to show that our speed humps are not too bad! >> Guess that rules out Big Healeys, 'cause they're lower than Spridgets !?!?! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 10:11:51 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1318781511.45305.YahooMailNeo@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Any opinions on the desirability of the Saab Sonnet MkIV? A runner and parts car can be mine for $600. - Glen Byrns If I had the space, I think I'd go for it if for no other reason than I've never owned one and always thought they were cool looking. I've always loved Sonetts. But I thought they just went thru Mk3. Could it be that you're looking at a Sonett V4? That's the last of the early body cars with a Ford V4 engine in it rather than the Saab 3 cylinder 2-stroke in the earlier ones. If I remember right, the Sonett 3 is the same drivetrain in the later body style. Either is cool, though I tend to prefer the last body. (but could learn to love an early one with the exposed round headlights too) David Booker - Long Island From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Oct 16 10:18:11 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:18:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most remarkable car designs ever? In-Reply-To: <97214D44-8455-41CB-9F66-ABB05124FCFF@chartermi.net> References: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> <97214D44-8455-41CB-9F66-ABB05124FCFF@chartermi.net> Message-ID: I worked for Mazda at their US corporate headquarters while the Miata was being developed. The lineage of the Miata is: Bugeye > Miata. This from the mouth of the guys heading the development. They told me they were building a "modern Bugeye". Rick a Mazda Tech Writer in another lifetime.... Sent from my keyboard On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, derf wrote: > If the Lamborghini guys "studied the Mini" then that would make the > Mini remarkable. One might claim that the Mini should be in the top > 10 or even top 5 most remarkable car designs ever. > > If you trace the heritage as such: Sprite > Midget > MGB > Miata (I > know there is a jump there and it might be a stretch) then you might > say the Sprite was more remarkable than all the rest. They are > getting close to a million Miatas made and they are still making them. > > You can say the Sprite was the spawning of the inexpensive two seat > sports car and the Miata is definitely the modern equivalent of that. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Oct 16 10:32:47 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: <119d3.3d8e8673.3bcc612f@aol.com> Speak for yourself. I have an approximate annual brake fluid change on my Sprite irrespective of mileage. I think the handbook might recommend bi-annual though that's with DOT 3 rather than the DOT 4 or DOT 5.1 I use. I hope no-one has brake fluid more than 3 years older in their car. Regard Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 16/10/2011 04:35:15 GMT Daylight Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: Did anyone mention the fact that on race cars, brake fluid is changed frequently. Unlike our cars...which may go decades. Herb From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Oct 16 10:39:56 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> I have a great deal of technical data on silicone fluid that I've never shared. None of it is positive and all of it relates to a non US manufacturer of silicone fluid. Let the list know what AP say. In a message dated 15/10/2011 23:52:11 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: Hi Wes, Whilst you are probably right it is a question that must be put to AP, I wouldn't want to change their wording or put words in their mouth. I'll ask them. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: _WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_ (mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) To: _grday at btinternet.com_ (mailto:grday at btinternet.com) Cc: _spridgets at autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net) Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Do you suppose AP would guarantee their parts when used with a type of brake fluid they don't recommend you use? AP's racing division make brake fluids with a higher boiling point than DOT 5 so I guess they don't see a need to make a silicone brake fluid. I think the previous comments from the list make clear why it's not suitable for race use. I don't manufacture or sell brake fluid and no-one gives me it free so I don't have an axe to grind. If people want to use silicone brake fluid, being a produce the manufacture of the parts it is going to be used with don't recommmend, that's up to them. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 14/10/2011 21:57:39 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: Hi Wes, AP products do NOT RECOMMEND their parts to be used with silicone fluid. I haven't seen anything about a guarantee rejection. It is also noted they do not make or supply a DOT 5 fluid. _http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Additional%2Fhealth+%26+Safet y+Information_88_ (http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Additional/health+&+Safety+Information_88) I've had a good trawl around the net for both DOT 5 manufacturers and with brake seal manufacturers and I've started getting replies from their technical bods. SO FAR there the same two camps that are here on the Spridget (et al) sites. Those who DON'T supply it say it is it is a product that is not fit for use. Those who DO make it and / or sell it say it is the best thing since sliced bread! One I have got back says its properties make it unsuitable for race use but doesn't say what these negative properties are. A couple of manufacturers say the product has improved since they started manufacturing it but haven't said why. Only one has firmly emphasised the need to have new seals AND to flush the pipes out with THEIR cleaning fluid before use. There has been no replies from seal manufacturers as yet and the change over of rubber types for seals could be playing a part in this. As far as I am concerned we are back in the trenches, there are both for and against camps, all have their own axe to grind. Guy R Day From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Oct 16 10:40:54 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale Message-ID: <11d1f.cedfd0f.3bcc6316@aol.com> Nice bus ding ding. In a message dated 16/10/2011 00:32:32 GMT Daylight Time, grbyrns at gmail.com writes: My wife would let me buy it, but there's nowhere to put it. We've ridden it several times over the years and it took guests to oldest daughter's wedding. Oh well, check it out. Obviously it's local to me if anyone wants tons of pics or a test drive report. http://bargainbarn.ucdavis.edu/4sale/images/166059.jpg Glen Byrns From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Oct 16 11:51:52 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:51:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery Message-ID: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> My wife's battery died completely as we were sitting in a parking lot with the engine off listening to the end of an interesting radio program. This car is driven more than 30 miles working days. The battery water is full. We got a jump; I charged it first with a big charger, then with a little trickle minder until it switched to maintenance. This morning, resting voltage is 12.8v; charging voltage is 14.5 v; I don't have a SG tester. Should I check cranking voltage? Why is this system not charging enough to run the radio for more than 10-15 minutes? Michael Rowe 2005 Subaru Outback From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 13:38:46 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks In-Reply-To: <201110160656264.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <1318793926.18746.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Peter, I've never seen an article devoted to the Armstrong adjustables. You're right, very cool. BTW, have you ever seen a pair of adjustables for the big Healey? I know they made them, but I've never seen one. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 10/16/11, Peter Caldwell wrote: From: Peter Caldwell Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks To: "HealeyRick" , WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 9:56 AM This is a cool article and the opening Bugeye picture is.... well. upsetting LOL http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Shock%20Catalog.pdf After page 3 it's just stuff....... Peter C From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 16 13:57:40 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:57:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery In-Reply-To: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> References: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> Message-ID: Batteries be mysterious things as we can't see electrons. Is it older than the warrantee? If it is the 2005 mentioned at to bottom of this email, I'd just buy a new one. ...bill in corvallis ======================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:52 AM To: Spridget Chat Group Cc: Mona Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery My wife's battery died completely as we were sitting in a parking lot with the engine off listening to the end of an interesting radio program. This car is driven more than 30 miles working days. The battery water is full. We got a jump; I charged it first with a big charger, then with a little trickle minder until it switched to maintenance. This morning, resting voltage is 12.8v; charging voltage is 14.5 v; I don't have a SG tester. Should I check cranking voltage? Why is this system not charging enough to run the radio for more than 10-15 minutes? Michael Rowe 2005 Subaru Outback Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Oct 16 14:31:36 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:31:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery In-Reply-To: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> References: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> Message-ID: <000a01cc8c42$99f740f0$cde5c2d0$@rr.com> If you have an alternator , it's probably a bad/leaky diode. I had the same thing where the system would charge fine when running, but when it sat for 2 days it was dead as a doornail. Actually found my problem by mistake. Take a portable AM radio and tune it to a station on the lower end of the scale while the car is idling. Turn the car off and I bet you'll hear some high pitched squeal on the radio. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:52 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Cc: Mona Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery My wife's battery died completely as we were sitting in a parking lot with the engine off listening to the end of an interesting radio program. This car is driven more than 30 miles working days. The battery water is full. We got a jump; I charged it first with a big charger, then with a little trickle minder until it switched to maintenance. This morning, resting voltage is 12.8v; charging voltage is 14.5 v; I don't have a SG tester. Should I check cranking voltage? Why is this system not charging enough to run the radio for more than 10-15 minutes? Michael Rowe 2005 Subaru Outback _______________________________________________ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 16 15:48:55 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:48:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery In-Reply-To: <000a01cc8c42$99f740f0$cde5c2d0$@rr.com> References: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> <000a01cc8c42$99f740f0$cde5c2d0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <018F24B02F414F17A49DB14E0634B748@spider> I have heard of this leaking AC current killing a battery. I like your diagnostic. ...bill =========================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Manuel Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:32 PM To: 'Spridget Chat Group' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery If you have an alternator , it's probably a bad/leaky diode. I had the same thing where the system would charge fine when running, but when it sat for 2 days it was dead as a doornail. Actually found my problem by mistake. Take a portable AM radio and tune it to a station on the lower end of the scale while the car is idling. Turn the car off and I bet you'll hear some high pitched squeal on the radio. Chris From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 16 17:42:08 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:42:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery In-Reply-To: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> References: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> Message-ID: <6B1DA20E7682438188A27E4FDEE5659D@HomePC> Had the exact same thing happen a couple years ago on a ride with Peter C and Dave Woerpel. We were on a ferry crossing a river and my wife had the radio on listening to a ball game. When we got to the other side of the river, we had to push the car off the ferry and Dave had to jump it to get it started. The problem was the car starts so easily that we never had an inclination that the battery was not performing up to par. A couple years before that Peter C and I were coming back from one of Ron Soave's races in Michigan and Peter remarked how easily my Austin Pickup starts. I barely pulled the starter cable for less than a second and it started. A week later I needed to replace the battery. It seems like they sometimes give you no warning at all. Michael, I would just replace it and not worry where you will get stuck next. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:51 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Cc: Mona Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery My wife's battery died completely as we were sitting in a parking lot with the engine off listening to the end of an interesting radio program. This car is driven more than 30 miles working days. The battery water is full. We got a jump; I charged it first with a big charger, then with a little trickle minder until it switched to maintenance. This morning, resting voltage is 12.8v; charging voltage is 14.5 v; I don't have a SG tester. Should I check cranking voltage? Why is this system not charging enough to run the radio for more than 10-15 minutes? Michael Rowe 2005 Subaru Outback Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Oct 16 18:46:20 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:46:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <119d3.3d8e8673.3bcc612f@aol.com> References: <119d3.3d8e8673.3bcc612f@aol.com> Message-ID: <313151CA852B477291B00F666AE9EB90@blackbox2> Weslake-Monza1330 -> "I hope no-one has brake fluid more than 3 years older in their car." Yes, otherwise the hygroscopic glycol will just keep pulling in more and more water. Moisture is a non-issue with silicone. It does not draw in moisture in the first place. I have two years since I re-sleeved the master and converted to the later dual acting rear cylinders on the Bugeye. At that time I flushed with fresh silicone. Prior to that the silicone was in there since 2003. I'll bet now I can safely go a decade without changing it. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 03:29:19 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:29:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brit bus for sale In-Reply-To: <11d1f.cedfd0f.3bcc6316@aol.com> References: <11d1f.cedfd0f.3bcc6316@aol.com> Message-ID: So what does he want for the bus and what state are you located in Glen? Also do you know what year the bus is? Very cool for a business. Lin On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:40 AM, wrote: > Nice bus ding ding. > > > In a message dated 16/10/2011 00:32:32 GMT Daylight Time, > grbyrns at gmail.com > writes: > > My wife would let me buy it, but there's nowhere to put it. We've ridden > it > several times over the years and it took guests to oldest daughter's > wedding. > Oh well, check it out. Obviously it's local to me if anyone wants tons of > pics > or a test drive report. > > > > http://bargainbarn.ucdavis.edu/4sale/images/166059.jpg > > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grday at btinternet.com Mon Oct 17 04:13:21 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:13:21 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? - APRacing answer References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> Message-ID: <77A8CC2375FC4C749202566E0BB3D1CD@user8634b3d69b> Question.... To: roadtech at apracing.co.uk Subject: AP Racing - Contact Form name: Guy R Day enquiry: Whilst you do not sell and do not recommend using a silicone based brake fluid with any of your products, will you uphold your guarantee if silicone fluid has been used from new in a braking / clutch system? enquiryType: 0284b Answer.... Dear Sir, I do not think that we would be responsible for that. IF you have used the silicone based fluid it will definitely cause the rubber seals to swell at a greater rate than they would with a standard type fluid. The seal replacement and cleaning of the hydraulic system is down to the end user to correct. Best Regards Name (deleted to save him other calls) Rally Engineer APracing also sent the page of warnings about Silicone fluid that can be found on their web site but refused to say where this originated other than from, "a technical person of great authority". There was a refusal to expand on the. It is this type of attitude makes the document and words sound as if they are nothing other than something made up to counter the use of a product they do not sell. A later telephone conversation with the Rally Engineer said the main problem was that Silicone make their rubbers swell great than their fluids. Again there was no expansion of this neither was there an explanation of how this happens or with what rubber types. I have yet to receive replies from other enquiries but Wes wanted this reply when I got it. It fully supports his stance. Guy R Day From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 04:18:30 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:18:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery In-Reply-To: <6B1DA20E7682438188A27E4FDEE5659D@HomePC> References: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> <6B1DA20E7682438188A27E4FDEE5659D@HomePC> Message-ID: Agreed change the battery. I have learned batteries only last 4 to 5 years once the battery shows any sign of poor starting it will fully die at the first sever drop in temperature. I just replaced what seems like a good battery because it was a few seconds of hesitation in starting. The battery is 5 years old and I don't like to take chances in the winter. Get a new battery unless it is less than 4 years old, if it is less than 4 years old bring it back to the store you got it from for a load test and maybe you'll get a discount on a new one. Oddly my Interstate battery in Pinky is the one that came from California with the car in 2006. I had it load tested at the Interstate battery dealer and they said it was fine which lead me to replacing the starter. She fires up like a new car with both the new starter and new fuel pump in the rear, pushing not pulling fuel : ) Lin On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Had the exact same thing happen a couple years ago on a ride with Peter C > and Dave Woerpel. We were on a ferry crossing a river and my wife had the > radio on listening to a ball game. When we got to the other side of the > river, we had to push the car off the ferry and Dave had to jump it to get > it started. The problem was the car starts so easily that we never had an > inclination that the battery was not performing up to par. > > A couple years before that Peter C and I were coming back from one of Ron > Soave's races in Michigan and Peter remarked how easily my Austin Pickup > starts. I barely pulled the starter cable for less than a second and it > started. A week later I needed to replace the battery. It seems like they > sometimes give you no warning at all. > > Michael, I would just replace it and not worry where you will get stuck > next. > > > LAD > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Rowe > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:51 PM > To: Spridget Chat Group > Cc: Mona Rowe > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery > > My wife's battery died completely as we were sitting in a parking lot with > the engine off listening to the end of an interesting radio program. This > car is driven more than 30 miles working days. The battery water is full. > > We got a jump; I charged it first with a big charger, then with a little > trickle minder until it switched to maintenance. This morning, resting > voltage is 12.8v; charging voltage is 14.5 v; I don't have a SG tester. > Should I check cranking voltage? > > Why is this system not charging enough to run the radio for more than 10-15 > minutes? > > Michael Rowe > 2005 Subaru Outback > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 04:24:22 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:24:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprites at Sebring -1962 In-Reply-To: <1318724598.75557.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318724598.75557.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: With my Warwick top (same as pictured) my little Sprite will look like the Girl Sprite of Steve's being she will remain pink ; ) Looking forward to getting that top and some of the spots on Pinky done in my garage now that the White Elephant is running great now. I have to bleed/replace brake hoses in that van and then Pinky gets her garage back. Lin On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 5:23 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Some nice pics from the Nigel Smuckatelli site: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/5839613904/in/photostream/lightbox/ > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/5839062415/in/photostream/lightbox/ > > > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 06:33:46 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Cyl. Blocks Message-ID: <1318854826.14561.YahooMailNeo@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It would be a shame to see these go to a recycler.http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12913 John Fogelsville, PA From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Oct 17 07:56:48 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:56:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, dead battery In-Reply-To: <6B1DA20E7682438188A27E4FDEE5659D@HomePC> References: <225FFBBFF2A54BFC94ED6B7593861237@Home> <6B1DA20E7682438188A27E4FDEE5659D@HomePC> Message-ID: <5CCDF3F167F0417EB42E96DD3D60DF43@Home> >The problem was the car starts so easily that we never had an > inclination that the battery was not performing up to par. Larry, Last night I went through the records to see how old the battery is. I found nothing, which means it is probably the original. You are right. It's simply old. Michael Rowe From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 17 07:58:51 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:58:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks In-Reply-To: <1318793926.18746.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo .com> References: <201110160656264.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <1318793926.18746.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201110170658703.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Rick, In the Armstrong universe, after say 1955, there are only 2 rear shock bodies... the DAS9 as on Spridget rears and early Big Healeys (among many other cars) having a 3-5/8 on center mounting, and the DAS10 as on MGBs, TR6, and later Big Healeys with 4" on center mountings. So, Armstrong made the 2 different castings for the adjustable rears for any application that wanted them. What makes the different part numbers of rear shocks among the 2 groups is arm swing, shape, and valving. Yes, we have seen many Big Healey adjustables.... might even have a few NOS ones around.... Peter ==== At 02:38 PM 10/16/2011, HealeyRick wrote: >Peter, > >I've never seen an article devoted to the Armstrong >adjustables. You're right, very cool. BTW, have you ever seen a >pair of adjustables for the big Healey? I know they made them, but >I've never seen one. > >Rick > >Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > >--- On Sun, 10/16/11, Peter Caldwell wrote: > >From: Peter Caldwell >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Adjustable shocks >To: "HealeyRick" , WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 9:56 AM > >This is a cool article and the opening Bugeye picture is.... >well. upsetting LOL > >http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Shock%20Catalog.pdf > >After page 3 it's just stuff....... > >Peter C From grbyrns at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 08:36:36 2011 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:36:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bus details Message-ID: <58E3BA78-D1B4-464E-9D2C-04357E62F619@gmail.com> Seems to be some interest, so here's the story on the bus. It's owned by UC Davis and has been in regular service here on campus and in town for at least 30 years. After 30 days of being offered only to other departments, it will go on "public" sale.(about 3 more weeks). They're asking 25k, but I bet it won't go for that. It's been maintained by UC mechanics for public use so I can't imagine it's a rotter. It was on the street until recently. CA smog regs force a particulate exhaust mod they can't afford I suppose. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 08:55:59 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:55:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most remarkable car designs ever? In-Reply-To: References: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> <97214D44-8455-41CB-9F66-ABB05124FCFF@chartermi.net> Message-ID: That would be cool to see a Bugeye Miata ; ) Personally I think my next toy will be the Beck (Porche Spyder look-a-like kit). I've been eying them for years. Although I'd have to sell everything I own first. http://www.beckspeedster.com/beckspyder550inventory.html Lin On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > I worked for Mazda at their US corporate headquarters while the Miata was > being developed. The lineage of the Miata is: Bugeye > Miata. This from > the > mouth of the guys heading the development. They told me they were building > a > "modern Bugeye". > > Rick > a Mazda Tech Writer in another lifetime.... > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, derf wrote: > > > If the Lamborghini guys "studied the Mini" then that would make the > > Mini remarkable. One might claim that the Mini should be in the top > > 10 or even top 5 most remarkable car designs ever. > > > > If you trace the heritage as such: Sprite > Midget > MGB > Miata (I > > know there is a jump there and it might be a stretch) then you might > > say the Sprite was more remarkable than all the rest. They are > > getting close to a million Miatas made and they are still making them. > > > > You can say the Sprite was the spawning of the inexpensive two seat > > sports car and the Miata is definitely the modern equivalent of that. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 09:02:06 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:02:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good question I'd like to know too. Lin On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:50 AM, WFO Herb wrote: > In G-mail, how do you retrieve a message after (by mistake) hitting > "archive"? Where the heck did it go??? Feeling stupid here.... > Herb > > > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, > biodegradable, > renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports > our > economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to > improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had > 100 years ago. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 09:09:47 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:09:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprites at Sebring -1962 In-Reply-To: <1318724598.75557.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318724598.75557.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Enjoy this one in color (copy), I got it from Jonathan Whitehouse-Bird. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyspics2/5643216658/in/photostream/ Lin On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Some nice pics from the Nigel Smuckatelli site: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/5839613904/in/photostream/lightbox/ > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/5839062415/in/photostream/lightbox/ > > > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Oct 17 09:41:59 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:41:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> Message-ID: <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net> This may seem a dumb question but here goes. When you mean you change your brake fluid, do mean completely purge the system or just run a couple of pints through the M/C whilst going from wheel cylinder to wheel cylinder until you see new fluid? Folks would really hate to start getting air out of the M/C and clutch slave everytime. DW On 10/16/2011 11:39 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > I have a great deal of technical data on silicone fluid that I've never > shared. None of it is positive and all of it relates to a non US > manufacturer of silicone fluid. Let the list know what AP say. > > > In a message dated 15/10/2011 23:52:11 GMT Daylight Time, > grday at btinternet.com writes: > > Hi Wes, > > Whilst you are probably right it is a question that must be put to AP, I > wouldn't want to change their wording or put words in their mouth. I'll ask > them. > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: _WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_ (mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) > To: _grday at btinternet.com_ (mailto:grday at btinternet.com) > Cc: _spridgets at autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net) > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? > > > > > Do you suppose AP would guarantee their parts when used with a type of > brake fluid they don't recommend you use? AP's racing division make brake > fluids with a higher boiling point than DOT 5 so I guess they don't see a need > to make a silicone brake fluid. > > I think the previous comments from the list make clear why it's not > suitable for race use. > > I don't manufacture or sell brake fluid and no-one gives me it free so I > don't have an axe to grind. > > If people want to use silicone brake fluid, being a produce the > manufacture of the parts it is going to be used with don't recommmend, that's up to > them. > > Regards > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 14/10/2011 21:57:39 GMT Daylight Time, > grday at btinternet.com writes: > > Hi Wes, > AP products do NOT RECOMMEND their parts to be used with silicone fluid. > I haven't seen anything about a guarantee rejection. It is also noted they > do not make or supply a DOT 5 fluid. > > _http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Additional%2Fhealth+%26+Safet > y+Information_88_ > (http://www.apracing.com/info/info.asp?section=Additional/health+&+Safety+Information_88) > I've had a good trawl around the net for both DOT 5 manufacturers and with > brake seal manufacturers and I've started getting replies from their > technical bods. > SO FAR there the same two camps that are here on the Spridget (et al) > sites. > Those who DON'T supply it say it is it is a product that is not fit for > use. > Those who DO make it and / or sell it say it is the best thing since > sliced bread! > One I have got back says its properties make it unsuitable for race use > but doesn't say what these negative properties are. > A couple of manufacturers say the product has improved since they started > manufacturing it but haven't said why. Only one has firmly emphasised the > need to have new seals AND to flush the pipes out with THEIR cleaning fluid > before use. > There has been no replies from seal manufacturers as yet and the change > over of rubber types for seals could be playing a part in this. > > As far as I am concerned we are back in the trenches, there are both for > and against camps, all have their own axe to grind. > > Guy R Day From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 17 10:07:24 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:07:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bus details In-Reply-To: <58E3BA78-D1B4-464E-9D2C-04357E62F619@gmail.com> References: <58E3BA78-D1B4-464E-9D2C-04357E62F619@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201110170907647.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Yeah, BUT..... did you buy the Sonett? Pete C == At 09:36 AM 10/17/2011, Glen Byrns wrote: >Seems to be some interest, so here's the story on the bus. It's owned by UC >Davis and has been in regular service here on campus and in town for at least >30 years. After 30 days of being offered only to other departments, it will go >on "public" sale.(about 3 more weeks). They're asking 25k, but I bet it won't >go for that. It's been maintained by UC mechanics for public use so I can't >imagine it's a rotter. It was on the street until recently. CA smog regs force >a particulate exhaust mod they can't afford I suppose. >_______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 10:27:42 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:27:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bus details In-Reply-To: <58E3BA78-D1B4-464E-9D2C-04357E62F619@gmail.com> References: <58E3BA78-D1B4-464E-9D2C-04357E62F619@gmail.com> Message-ID: too bad looks like it would make a great party bus for events like car show's Lin On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Seems to be some interest, so here's the story on the bus. It's owned by UC > Davis and has been in regular service here on campus and in town for at > least > 30 years. After 30 days of being offered only to other departments, it will > go > on "public" sale.(about 3 more weeks). They're asking 25k, but I bet it > won't > go for that. It's been maintained by UC mechanics for public use so I can't > imagine it's a rotter. It was on the street until recently. CA smog regs > force > a particulate exhaust mod they can't afford I suppose. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grbyrns at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 10:40:28 2011 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:40:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go Message-ID: As great a deal as it is, I just can't get fired up enough and will give it a pass. Waiting for a Moggie convertible or van or another bugeye. Maybe a mkII Jag saloon........ From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 10:56:58 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:56:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It should still be there under "All Mail". Just find it and add an "inbox" label On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:50 AM, WFO Herb wrote: > In G-mail, how do you retrieve a message after (by mistake) hitting > "archive"? Where the heck did it go??? Feeling stupid here.... > Herb > > > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, > biodegradable, > renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports > our > economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to > improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had > 100 years ago. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Oct 17 11:23:43 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Intermittant tach issues Message-ID: <626461125.843464.1318872223363.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Due to the unusual amount of rain here in Pennsylrania this fall I have been fighting with some intermittant electical problems due to my midget being outside 24/7B and the rust and corrosion that comes along with it. Most recently this has developed in the form of a fluttering tach displayB While driving at highway speeds I noticed my take would bounce from 4200 down to 3500 and back with no coresponding effects to the driveability so its not a physical engine issue i think.B But I did notice I could initiate the bounce by using my turn signals.B This implies an electrical issue ( I know ED DUH!) but where do i start?B where does the electrical connection from the tach connect with the turn signals? I see no drop electrically from the lights, radio, engine performance, other gauges.B so I am guessing its some loose bullet connection but where? I am open to suggestions but not critique of me not knowing how electricity works or how to read a wiring diagram.B I am aware of those and can do all that but I am looking for a "hey ryan try this first" type of response. Thanks in advance Ryan From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 12:07:38 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:07:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go Message-ID: Good thing you are on the west coast or I would have to go after it!! Steve ------Original Message------ From: Glen Byrns Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go Sent: Oct 17, 2011 12:40 PM As great a deal as it is, I just can't get fired up enough and will give it a pass. Waiting for a Moggie convertible or van or another bugeye. Maybe a mkII Jag saloon........ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 12:26:53 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:26:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most remarkable car designs ever? In-Reply-To: References: <003201cc8bb2$9a8be240$cfa3a6c0$@net> <97214D44-8455-41CB-9F66-ABB05124FCFF@chartermi.net> Message-ID: They Becks are very cool looking, very light and can be very fast. Years ago I knew someone that took one to gymkhanas. Every now and then I look for someone that started a kit and never finished it. Much cheaper that way. Steve On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > That would be cool to see a Bugeye Miata ; ) > Personally I think my next toy will be the Beck (Porche Spyder look-a-like > kit). I've been eying them for years. Although I'd have to sell everything > I > own first. > http://www.beckspeedster.com/beckspyder550inventory.html > Lin > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > > > I worked for Mazda at their US corporate headquarters while the Miata was > > being developed. The lineage of the Miata is: Bugeye > Miata. This > from > > the > > mouth of the guys heading the development. They told me they were > building > > a > > "modern Bugeye". > > > > Rick > > a Mazda Tech Writer in another lifetime.... > > > > Sent from my keyboard > > > > On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, derf wrote: > > > > > If the Lamborghini guys "studied the Mini" then that would make the > > > Mini remarkable. One might claim that the Mini should be in the top > > > 10 or even top 5 most remarkable car designs ever. > > > > > > If you trace the heritage as such: Sprite > Midget > MGB > Miata (I > > > know there is a jump there and it might be a stretch) then you might > > > say the Sprite was more remarkable than all the rest. They are > > > getting close to a million Miatas made and they are still making them. > > > > > > You can say the Sprite was the spawning of the inexpensive two seat > > > sports car and the Miata is definitely the modern equivalent of that. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From lbc77mg at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 12:49:28 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:49:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Archiving in gmail just removes the "inbox" tag. Go to the "Search Options" button up near the search box and search under all mail. For future reference, you can find mail help at the top of the page, all the way to the right, under the little gear icon. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:50 AM, WFO Herb wrote: > In G-mail, how do you retrieve a message after (by mistake) hitting > "archive"? Where the heck did it go??? Feeling stupid here.... > Herb > > > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, > biodegradable, > renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports > our > economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to > improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had > 100 years ago. > _______________________________________________ From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Oct 17 12:51:31 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:51:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Fluid Message-ID: Reading about the opinions concerning silicone vs "regular" brake fluid reminded me that I have a quart of silicone fluid out in the garage. I remember few of the details about ordering it - I must have ordered it in the late 70's or 80's. The can says: Silicone Brake Fluid SBF 1141 Dot 5 Boiling point 700 Degrees F Non-hydroscopic 32 oz Time Machines Inc 13 Neptune Ave Brooklyn, NY I don't remember what I paid, but now it is antique and the tin plate can now has a patina (don't call it rust) that probably increases the value of the product. It's even unopened! I don't think Time Machines Inc. is around any longer. btw, I used LMA when I rebuilt the brake system. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 12:57:12 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:57:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net> Message-ID: <42A2A49A87D24D1C91A82DBE1AC93046@Inspiron> Hey David, I have been changing my brake fluid using that method for years, I change the DOT 3 fluids in any vehicles I own, every 5 years. I use a one man vacuum bleeding tool, it only takes about 20 minutes. I also change out the power steering fluid and anti freeze at the same time. Bye the way that was a good question. Greg Higgins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woerpel" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? > This may seem a dumb question but here goes. > When you mean you change your brake fluid, do mean completely purge the > system or just run a couple of pints through the M/C whilst going from > wheel cylinder to wheel cylinder until you see new fluid? > Folks would really hate to start getting air out of the M/C and clutch > slave everytime. > > DW From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Oct 17 14:53:24 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: Remind me to never let you drive behind me, especially down hill, on a hot day. Seriously, 5 years is to long for DOT4 let alone DOT3. In a message dated 17/10/2011 21:23:56 GMT Daylight Time, g.h.higgins at gmail.com writes: have been changing my brake fluid using that method for years, I change the DOT 3 fluids in any vehicles I own, every 5 years From lbc77mg at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 14:57:42 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:57:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net> References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net> Message-ID: David, Ever since I lost the brakes in my Mitsubishi Expo, going up and down the foothills of the PA Poconos, I have been advocating a regular flush of the brake system. The next day, I flushed the system in the Expo. I opened the longest run brake line at the bleed screw and blood red fluid came out. I kept filling the MC until new fluid came thru, then moved on to the next wheel. It took a while because it had ABS, but it worked. I used LMA in that car, and never had another brake fade. And now I change brake fluid in all my cars every few years. For the cost of some brake fluid, it is great insurance. And I'm sure JustBrits Ed agrees! Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Woerpel wrote: > This may seem a dumb question but here goes. > When you mean you change your brake fluid, do mean completely purge the > system or just run a couple of pints through the M/C whilst going from wheel > cylinder to wheel cylinder until you see new fluid? > Folks would really hate to start getting air out of the M/C and clutch > slave everytime. > > DW From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Oct 17 15:03:42 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? - APRacing answer Message-ID: It's possible they don't want to enter into money wasting and time consuming litigation where it's their technical expert Versus someone elses technical expert with a non technical expert deciding the outcome? Since they already make a lot of other brake fluids and have even changed some in recent years I'm confident they could make silicone if they wanted. However, you contacted AP Racing rather than AP Products and I think there is general agreement DOT5 isn't the best fluid for racing and therefor not a product they need to make. They also know there 'stuff' and I think even have a fluid that's not used on magnesium calipers. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 17/10/2011 11:11:58 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: APracing also sent the page of warnings about Silicone fluid that can be found on their web site but refused to say where this originated other than from, "a technical person of great authority". There was a refusal to expand on the. It is this type of attitude makes the document and words sound as if they are nothing other than something made up to counter the use of a product they do not sell. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 15:49:58 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go In-Reply-To: <20111017201441.8C5121878D2@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1318888198.59564.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Too late, Lester's already there! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 10/17/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: From: an5.sprite at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go To: "Glen Byrns" , spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets" Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 2:07 PM Good thing you are on the west coast or I would have to go after it!! Steve ------Original Message------ From: Glen Byrns Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go Sent: Oct 17, 2011 12:40 PM As great a deal as it is, I just can't get fired up enough and will give it a pass. Waiting for a Moggie convertible or van or another bugeye. Maybe a mkII Jag saloon........ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 17 16:39:38 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:39:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <42A2A49A87D24D1C91A82DBE1AC93046@Inspiron> References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net> <42A2A49A87D24D1C91A82DBE1AC93046@Inspiron> Message-ID: <76EB92549BAF4954AC354C0116D4B95B@HomePC> Here we have one more subject that was beaten to death days ago. It can all be summed up thusly: Silicone is for boobs, not brakes. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 16:41:07 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1318891267.7176.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Somebody needs to snag this one! I'd love to, but I live in an apartment and rent a tiny one car garage that currently has my Midget, the bike, all the tools and cabinets, the workbench, the ladders, etc. I really can't do it. Still gotta get my Spridget back together anyway. David Booker - Long Island ________________________________ From: Glen Byrns To: spridget list Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:40 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go As great a deal as it is, I just can't get fired up enough and will give it a pass. Waiting for a Moggie convertible or van or another bugeye. Maybe a mkII Jag saloon........ _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Oct 17 18:13:31 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Origins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1318896811.50344.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I always thought the Miata was based on the Lotus Elan. Here's a link that talks a bit about that: http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/elan-archive-f16/miata-patterened-after-the-e lan-t6302.html Probably the inspiration for the Miata was every LBC that broke down all the time. I do remember a company that produced a fiberglass front end that made the Miata look like a bugeye, though. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 10/16/11, Rick Fisk wrote: From: Rick Fisk Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most remarkable car designs ever? To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 12:18 PM I worked for Mazda at their US corporate headquarters while the Miata was being developed. The lineage of the Miata is: Bugeye > Miata. This from the mouth of the guys heading the development. They told me they were building a "modern Bugeye". Rick a Mazda Tech Writer in another lifetime.... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Oct 17 18:22:10 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:22:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go In-Reply-To: <1318888198.59564.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318888198.59564.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <816B6D3F-133C-4AC0-9BCB-8E1E7DC4B531@comcast.net> HAH! T 25 or so SAABs I'm maxed out.. unless it's really special.. ;-) Lester On Oct 17, 2011, at 4:49 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Too late, Lester's already there! > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Mon, 10/17/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > > From: an5.sprite at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go > To: "Glen Byrns" , spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, > "spridgets" > Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 2:07 PM > > Good thing you are on the west coast or I would have to go after it!! > > Steve > ------Original Message------ > From: Glen Byrns > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > To: spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Sonett a no go > Sent: Oct 17, 2011 12:40 PM > > As great a deal as it is, I just can't get fired up enough and will give it a > pass. > Waiting for a Moggie convertible or van or another bugeye. Maybe a mkII Jag > saloon........ > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > > > Sent from me. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Oct 17 18:45:09 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A Sonnet for me? In-Reply-To: References: <1435091141.378120.1318726873613.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <41D06BB7-02AD-4C35-BA43-2FABEC271233@comcast.net> Message-ID: <50E8F2F4-BFF1-4ED2-B4AC-28BE1D4394FD@comcast.net> .. and .. 2 Formula S cars (including the prototype car) 2 D Sports Racers (one of which ran in the Championships in '69) a '59 93b (suicide doors) etc, etc, etc... ;-) Lester .. and many of them actually run! On Oct 15, 2011, at 11:38 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > 7 Sonetts...Holly smokes, Lester. > > > Lester > Former Pres of SAAB CLub of North America > Owner of: > > 3 Sonett II's (of 250 produced) > 1 Sonett V4 > 3 Sonett III's From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Oct 17 19:32:33 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:32:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net> Message-ID: <001c01cc8d35$cf56d820$6e048860$@rr.com> FWIW, I do mine on the aging BMW every 2 years and it's relatively easy with an OBD2 car. With the correct pin outs and long wire with a switch on these you can activate the ABS pump. Makes a heck of a mess if you don't have things set up right though when you hit the switch. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Hefner Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:58 PM To: Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? David, Ever since I lost the brakes in my Mitsubishi Expo, going up and down the foothills of the PA Poconos, I have been advocating a regular flush of the brake system. The next day, I flushed the system in the Expo. I opened the longest run brake line at the bleed screw and blood red fluid came out. I kept filling the MC until new fluid came thru, then moved on to the next wheel. It took a while because it had ABS, but it worked. I used LMA in that car, and never had another brake fade. And now I change brake fluid in all my cars every few years. For the cost of some brake fluid, it is great insurance. And I'm sure JustBrits Ed agrees! Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Woerpel wrote: > This may seem a dumb question but here goes. > When you mean you change your brake fluid, do mean completely purge the > system or just run a couple of pints through the M/C whilst going from wheel > cylinder to wheel cylinder until you see new fluid? > Folks would really hate to start getting air out of the M/C and clutch > slave everytime. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 20:02:20 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:02:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <76EB92549BAF4954AC354C0116D4B95B@HomePC> References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net> <42A2A49A87D24D1C91A82DBE1AC93046@Inspiron> <76EB92549BAF4954AC354C0116D4B95B@HomePC> Message-ID: I agree the subject matter has been rehashed to death with minimal new information or insight. 1) Clearly if you use dot 3 or 4 change your brake fluid often. 2) If you race you probably should not use dot 5. 3) Never mix dot 5 with dot 3,4 or 5.1 4) If you use dot 5 you don't have to worry about water in your brake lines if they were flushed properly. 5)Everything else is a bunch of unsubstantiated conjecture. 6) Natural boobs are best. That's all. Steve 59 bugeye with dot 5 2004 elise with dot 4 - flushing it this weekend. Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: "Larry Daniels" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:39:38 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Here we have one more subject that was beaten to death days ago. It can all be summed up thusly: Silicone is for boobs, not brakes. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From frog.aye at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 20:04:16 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:04:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Intermittant tach issues In-Reply-To: <626461125.843464.1318872223363.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <626461125.843464.1318872223363.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Hey Ryan, First look at all the ground connections! Hal On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM, wrote: > Due to the unusual amount of rain here in Pennsylrania this fall I have > been > fighting with some intermittant electical problems due to my midget being > outside 24/7B and the rust and corrosion that comes along with it. > > > > Most recently this has developed in the form of a fluttering tach displayB > While driving at highway speeds I noticed my take would bounce from 4200 > down > to 3500 and back with no coresponding effects to the driveability so its > not a > physical engine issue i think.B But I did notice I could initiate the > bounce > by using my turn signals.B This implies an electrical issue ( I know ED > DUH!) > but where do i start?B where does the electrical connection from the tach > connect with the turn signals? I see no drop electrically from the lights, > radio, engine performance, other gauges.B so I am guessing its some loose > bullet connection but where? > > > > I am open to suggestions but not critique of me not knowing how electricity > works or how to read a wiring diagram.B I am aware of those and can do all > that but I am looking for a "hey ryan try this first" type of response. > > Thanks in advance > > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Oct 17 20:20:26 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:20:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <76EB92549BAF4954AC354C0116D4B95B@HomePC> References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net><42A2A49A87D24D1C91A82DBE1AC93046@Inspiron> <76EB92549BAF4954AC354C0116D4B95B@HomePC> Message-ID: Larry Daniels > "It can all be summed up thusly: Silicone is for boobs, not brakes." Hah! Wrong. It's great in boobs and it's great in brakes. One thing for sure, they will never make glycol filled breast implants. And guess what...This discussion isn't over...its just getting started. As Guy points out, there seems to be a misconception that silicone fluid is incompatible with the rubber parts in the brake system. Here's a typical data sheet for DOT 5... http://www.clearcoproducts.com/pdf/specialty/NP-dot-5-brake-fluid.pdf Notice the statement "DOT 5 Silicone Brake Fluid is compatible with a wide range of brake materials including SBR, EP, Neoprene and Natural Rubber." More importantly "Meets MIL-PRF-46176B" You can download that spec here : http://tinyurl.com/43agjha In a nutshell that spec states that the fluid is not allowed to swell a standard SAE "SBR Test Cup" (wheel cylinder seal) more than 1.4mm. This "1.4mm swell" is the same standard applied to non silicone fluids. as described here: http://tinyurl.com/3wn9372 So there you have it, DOT 5, safe on paint and safe on rubber. Silicone has been known to swell boobs though, sometimes drastically. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Oct 17 21:00:00 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:00:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Intermittant tach issues In-Reply-To: <626461125.843464.1318872223363.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <626461125.843464.1318872223363.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: The tach has three connections..+12, ground and the input signal from the distributor (which the tach determines the rpm from). There are other wires, but those just hook up to lights within the tach. Since your tach is basically functioning, I would say that there is nothing wrong with the connection to the distributor. When you hit the turn signals you start messing with the power, and that is most likely what is affecting the tach. Make sure the tach is properly grounded. If that does not resolve the issue then you need to troubleshoot the 12v line to the tach using a multimeter. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:24 PM To: EasternOshitGroup; spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Intermittant tach issues Due to the unusual amount of rain here in Pennsylrania this fall I have been fighting with some intermittant electical problems due to my midget being outside 24/7B and the rust and corrosion that comes along with it. Most recently this has developed in the form of a fluttering tach displayB While driving at highway speeds I noticed my take would bounce from 4200 down to 3500 and back with no coresponding effects to the driveability so its not a physical engine issue i think.B But I did notice I could initiate the bounce by using my turn signals.B This implies an electrical issue ( I know ED DUH!) but where do i start?B where does the electrical connection from the tach connect with the turn signals? I see no drop electrically from the lights, radio, engine performance, other gauges.B so I am guessing its some loose bullet connection but where? I am open to suggestions but not critique of me not knowing how electricity works or how to read a wiring diagram.B I am aware of those and can do all that but I am looking for a "hey ryan try this first" type of response. Thanks in advance Ryan Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 23:02:46 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:02:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Again Please. Message-ID: Okay, I opened the replies about my "archive" question. First one (Ed) said 'hit the archive button, dummy'. I did and your answers all went away...to 'archive' I guess. So, one more time. Where are they??? Thanks, Herb -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had 100 years ago. From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 23:13:17 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks, Guys & Gals Message-ID: Found 'em. Thanks to all of you that helped me out. Does "Archive" reduce the file size: "zip"? Lin, were you able to find it? Herb -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had 100 years ago. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Oct 17 23:17:57 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:17:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E9D0C05.1040305@justbrits.com> << Remind me to never let you drive behind me, especially down hill, on a hot day. Seriously, 5 years is to long for DOT4 let alone DOT3. >> But 1312, YOU have to be 'concerned' about British Weather, WE don't !!!! LOL ! Seriously tho, I agree BUT with a slight "qualification" ;-) 8-) :-P Partially what I said to Greg in a PM: IMNSVHO, that is REALLY "pushing it", Greg !?!?! In a 'daily driver', fine; NON-frequently cars like LBCs /a "different animal" ! ! ! / End of 3rd season after WELL-USED seasons, most likely OK, IMHO O:-) :-\ ! ! Otherwise, at end of 2nd season for ME O:-) 8-) ! ! ! Just not 'worth it' ! ! ! FWIW, FYI, YMMV, and what I follow/followed: End of EVERY SECOND (2nd) season - COMPLETE FLUSH using ONLY Castrol GT/LMA ! ! ! Period. Ed From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 18 01:50:20 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:50:20 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net><42A2A49A87D24D1C91A82DBE1AC93046@Inspiron> <76EB92549BAF4954AC354C0116D4B95B@HomePC> Message-ID: <4DF6A900B9C04337A226E3B4D888EE84@user8634b3d69b> Tell me Larry, Why do you think your armed forces are boobs? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? > Here we have one more subject that was beaten to death days ago. > > It can all be summed up thusly: > > Silicone is for boobs, not brakes. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 04:22:41 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:22:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Origins In-Reply-To: <1318896811.50344.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318896811.50344.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bugeye Miata kit. http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=140708 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > I always thought the Miata was based on the Lotus Elan. Here's a link that > talks a bit about that: > > http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/elan-archive-f16/miata-patterened-after-the-e > lan-t6302.html Probably the inspiration for the Miata was every LBC that > broke down all the time. I do remember a company that produced a > fiberglass > front end that made the Miata look like a bugeye, though. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sun, 10/16/11, Rick Fisk wrote: > > From: Rick Fisk > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 356 to Bentley S1: Are these the most > remarkable car designs ever? > To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" > Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 12:18 PM > > I worked for Mazda at their US corporate headquarters while the Miata was > being developed. The lineage of the Miata is: Bugeye > Miata. This from > the > mouth of the guys heading the development. They told me they were building > a > "modern Bugeye". > > Rick > a Mazda Tech Writer in another lifetime.... > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 18 05:36:13 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 06:36:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <4DF6A900B9C04337A226E3B4D888EE84@user8634b3d69b> References: <11cb1.71faca74.3bcc62dc@aol.com> <4E9C4CC7.1010907@wi.net><42A2A49A87D24D1C91A82DBE1AC93046@Inspiron> <76EB92549BAF4954AC354C0116D4B95B@HomePC> <4DF6A900B9C04337A226E3B4D888EE84@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Huh? I must need coffee. -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:50 AM To: Larry Daniels ; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Tell me Larry, Why do you think your armed forces are boobs? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? > Here we have one more subject that was beaten to death days ago. > > It can all be summed up thusly: > > Silicone is for boobs, not brakes. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 07:08:51 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:08:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MG Midget Raffle Car Message-ID: Sorry to bomb the list, but several people I met at the Midget 50th in Elkhart said they would be interested in buying a raffle ticket. Things got busy and I forgot to follow up with them. Here is the info: The Louisville British Sports Car Club is doing a fund raiser by prepping an MG Midget to be raffled at our 2012 show to benefit St. Joseph Children's Home. http://www.sjkids.org/ . The raffle is conducted by St. Joes, the Louisville British Sports Car Club is just doing the leg work. The car is a Red 1975 MG Midget. It is a very nice driver quality car that I wouldn't hesitate to take to local car shows. Tickets are $10 each, and the raffle will be held June 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm Email me directly if you'd like to buy some chances. I hope this link works... https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111142364553626311189/albums/5664813183864803937?hl=en *http://tinyurl.com/3scb75d* * * Cheers, Trevor Jessie From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 18 07:57:00 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 06:57:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oh, wouldn't Frank have LOVED this one Message-ID: <002c01cc8d9d$cf41f550$6dc5dff0$@net> Oh, I can hear him now. (But those are not nice words, Frank!) http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~axe/bugpage/bugeye.html RBE From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Oct 18 10:20:55 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:20:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oh, wouldn't Frank have LOVED this one In-Reply-To: <002c01cc8d9d$cf41f550$6dc5dff0$@net> References: <002c01cc8d9d$cf41f550$6dc5dff0$@net> Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/3jubbhk ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:57 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Oh, wouldn't Frank have LOVED this one Oh, I can hear him now. (But those are not nice words, Frank!) http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~axe/bugpage/bugeye.html RBE Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue Oct 18 10:45:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Oh, wouldn't Frank have LOVED this one In-Reply-To: <002c01cc8d9d$cf41f550$6dc5dff0$@net> Message-ID: <1171674627.407246.1318956323932.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> 187,000 yen == 2,440 USD.. not cheap! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Robert Evans" wrote: > Oh, I can hear him now. (But those are not nice words, Frank!) > > http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~axe/bugpage/bugeye.html From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Tue Oct 18 15:09:00 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:09:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Origins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, I worked with a guy in the mid-90's that was friends with one of the designers and he told me exactly the same thing. It's what I have always believed to be true. Gerard On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >> I worked for Mazda at their US corporate headquarters while the >> Miata was >> being developed. The lineage of the Miata is: Bugeye > Miata. >> This from >> the >> mouth of the guys heading the development. They told me they were >> building >> a >> "modern Bugeye". >> >> Rick >> a Mazda Tech Writer in another lifetime.... From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Oct 18 15:39:19 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: <34c00.518d6370.3bcf4c07@aol.com> Why not they'd get bigger every time the 'owner' took a bath or shower! Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 18/10/2011 05:32:19 GMT Daylight Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: One thing for sure, they will never make glycol filled breast implants. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Oct 18 15:44:22 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? Message-ID: <34f35.1a3754ca.3bcf4d36@aol.com> Or hoses - I have nice downflow radiater set in orange. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 18/10/2011 01:48:33 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: It can all be summed up thusly: Silicone is for boobs, not brakes. From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 18 15:45:23 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:45:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Is this any way to build a car? Message-ID: <008301cc8ddf$3e05c250$ba1146f0$@net> http://www.youtube.com/embed/nd5WGLWNllA?rel=0-----Original From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Oct 18 18:53:43 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] What fluid for clutch master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <34f35.1a3754ca.3bcf4d36@aol.com> References: <34f35.1a3754ca.3bcf4d36@aol.com> Message-ID: Spongy boobs are fine. Spongy brakes not so much. I use glycol for brakes. > > In a message dated 18/10/2011 01:48:33 GMT Daylight Time, > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > > It can all be summed up thusly: > > Silicone is for boobs, not brakes. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Oct 18 19:46:11 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo Message-ID: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Haven't had any gun content for awhile. What a marketing concept. Check out the vid: http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 22:35:25 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Heads shots only, nothing else works! Marketing...trying to find what works. Herb On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:46 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Haven't had any gun content for awhile. What a marketing concept. Check > out > the vid: > http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax > > Rick From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 18 22:44:39 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:44:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Speaking of firearms... I just inherited a model 48 Mauser rifle. anyone know anything about 'em? It's from Mitchell's Mausers and is "collector grade".. looks to be in good shape but other than that from what I can see on his website it's not really anything special.. What say you all? Lester http://www.mauser.org/ On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:46 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Haven't had any gun content for awhile. What a marketing concept. Check out > the vid: > http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue Oct 18 23:50:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] MGB - Heads up.. Message-ID: <1360244084.415344.1319003409669.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2654480894.html This car is also advertised on the Tri-Cities Craigslist for $5500 with a totally different story. Just thought I'd give a heads up.. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From grday at btinternet.com Wed Oct 19 02:11:18 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:11:18 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] MGB - Heads up.. References: <1360244084.415344.1319003409669.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/2626268642.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2654480894.html With a $1000 price difference in postings made 1 minute apart this could either be a very good heads up or a slip of the finger. Well spotted Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave KK7SS To: midgetsprite_yahoogroups.com ; spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:50 AM Subject: [midgetsprite] MGB - Heads up.. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2654480894.html This car is also advertised on the Tri-Cities Craigslist for $5500 with a totally different story. Just thought I'd give a heads up.. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 1 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use. __,_._,___ From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Oct 19 02:20:27 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319012427.99724.YahooMailClassic@web180608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The Mauser action is arguably the best bolt action type gun ever devised. Your gun is the Serbian version of the K98, but no less an excellent rifle. I would just take it out and shoot it and have some fun. My preference for WWII type bolt actions run to British guns (Enfield) type. I have a No 5 Jungle carbine that needs the stock refinished and I have a No 4 MkII that was brand new in the arsenal wrapping and full of cosmoline. That gun just hits whatever you aim it at. I paid only $169 for it over 12 years ago. It's worth over $400 now. When all the Serbian Mausers are gone and Mitchell's no longer sells them, that's when the value of your gun will start to rise. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Lester wrote: From: Lester Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo To: "spridgets_autox.team.net Group" Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 4:44 AM Speaking of firearms... I just inherited a model 48 Mauser rifle. anyone know anything about 'em? It's from Mitchell's Mausers and is "collector grade".. looks to be in good shape but other than that from what I can see on his website it's not really anything special.. What say you all? Lester http://www.mauser.org/ On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:46 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Haven't had any gun content for awhile. What a marketing concept. Check out > the vid: > http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From dbherrick at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 04:55:18 2011 From: dbherrick at gmail.com (Don Herrick) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:55:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine Message-ID: OK, I've got another problem I can't figure out. 1979 Midget 1500. Was in the shopping center parking lot, went to start it and the engine seemed to turn over only about 1/2 a turn and stopped (charging light is on). Battery is fine. I figured a starter problem so I tried to do a push start. When I let out the clutch the rear tires just slid, as if the engine was locked. Bendix jam somehow? I've got a failing fan clutch... if the fan clutch failed could the fan belt keep the engine from turning over? Should I remove the belt (fan/alternator) and try to start the car or would that damage it? Don From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 07:16:17 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:16:17 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are you sure the water pump is not failed and jamming? Try pushing backwards to see if it can free the jam. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Don Herrick Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:55:18 To: Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine OK, I've got another problem I can't figure out. 1979 Midget 1500. Was in the shopping center parking lot, went to start it and the engine seemed to turn over only about 1/2 a turn and stopped (charging light is on). Battery is fine. I figured a starter problem so I tried to do a push start. When I let out the clutch the rear tires just slid, as if the engine was locked. Bendix jam somehow? I've got a failing fan clutch... if the fan clutch failed could the fan belt keep the engine from turning over? Should I remove the belt (fan/alternator) and try to start the car or would that damage it? Don _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 07:29:27 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like jammed Bendix. Pull the starter and if Bendix is jammed try push start. If it isn't the starter then it could be something major inside the motor. You can remove the fan belt and try and start the car but you cannot run the car for more than a minute without the belt. You may try putting it in a forward gear and rocking the car gently back and forth, starting with a gentle back push. If it is a stuck Bendix it may release. (Conversely you can try putting it in reverse and giving a gentle forward nudge, just enough to maybe "unbind" it.) From dbherrick at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 07:30:59 2011 From: dbherrick at gmail.com (Don Herrick) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:30:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: <1338616156-1319030178-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1782202117-@b28.c12.bise6.blackberry> References: <1338616156-1319030178-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1782202117-@b28.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Possible. But it is a brand-new (not rebuilt) pump with only a couple of miles on it. Also, it seems like the belt would slip before the wheels would drag on the ground.... but I'll check. Don On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:16 AM, wrote: > Are you sure the water pump is not failed and jamming? Try pushing > backwards to see if it can free the jam. > > Steve > Sent from me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Herrick > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:55:18 > To: > Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine > > OK, I've got another problem I can't figure out. 1979 Midget 1500. Was in > the shopping center parking lot, went to start it and the engine seemed to > turn over only about 1/2 a turn and stopped (charging light is on). > Battery > is fine. I figured a starter problem so I tried to do a push start. When > I > let out the clutch the rear tires just slid, as if the engine was locked. > Bendix jam somehow? I've got a failing fan clutch... if the fan clutch > failed could the fan belt keep the engine from turning over? Should I > remove the belt (fan/alternator) and try to start the car or would that > damage it? > > Don > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From dbherrick at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 07:34:11 2011 From: dbherrick at gmail.com (Don Herrick) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:34:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK. I did try rocking the car, both in forward and reverse. I would get up to the point where the wheels would drag. I'll start with pulling the belt and if the engine still doesn't turn I'll pull the starter motor. Thanks, Don On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:29 AM, derf wrote: > Sounds like jammed Bendix. Pull the starter and if Bendix is jammed > try push start. > If it isn't the starter then it could be something major inside the motor. > You can remove the fan belt and try and start the car but you cannot > run the car for more than a minute without the belt. > You may try putting it in a forward gear and rocking the car gently > back and forth, starting with a gentle back push. If it is a stuck > Bendix it may release. (Conversely you can try putting it in reverse > and giving a gentle forward nudge, just enough to maybe "unbind" it.) From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 07:50:37 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:50:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mitchell sells high grade collectable stuff. Mausers used to be cheap and plentiful but now they are getting harder to find and more expensive. You could shoot it, hang it on the wall, or store it for future use or sale. What you have is a very good example and it will appreciate. Keep it clean and don't let it rust. Feel free to shoot it just be weary of some "corrosive" ammo. Much surplus ammo has a corrosive component that is OK to shoot but must be cleaned soon after shooting or it will greatly accelerate rust which would harm the gun. It is better to shoot "non-corrosive" ammo if you can. Either way, though, if you clean and oil it shortly after shooting it will be fine. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 08:15:35 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:15:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Start by removing the plugs to remove all of the compression, then see if it will turn over. If you are sure the battery is getting power to the starter, it should spin. If it doesn't, you are probably screwed. One thing that can make starting difficult is a missing or broken ground strap from the block (on the lower right front) to the frame. Power has to have a way back to the battery and the starter draws a lot of power. Keep in touch. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Don Herrick wrote: > OK, I've got another problem I can't figure out. 1979 Midget 1500. Was in > the shopping center parking lot, went to start it and the engine seemed to > turn over only about 1/2 a turn and stopped (charging light is on). > Battery > is fine. I figured a starter problem so I tried to do a push start. When > I > let out the clutch the rear tires just slid, as if the engine was locked. > Bendix jam somehow? I've got a failing fan clutch... if the fan clutch > failed could the fan belt keep the engine from turning over? Should I > remove the belt (fan/alternator) and try to start the car or would that > damage it? > > Don > _______________________________________________ From aseippel at austin.rr.com Wed Oct 19 08:45:18 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:45:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009f01cc8e6d$b8de0800$2a9a1800$@austin.rr.com> Pull the spark plugs and see if it turns over. My guess is that it has a blown head gasket and one cylinder is full of water. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Herrick Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:55 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine OK, I've got another problem I can't figure out. 1979 Midget 1500. Was in the shopping center parking lot, went to start it and the engine seemed to turn over only about 1/2 a turn and stopped (charging light is on). Battery is fine. I figured a starter problem so I tried to do a push start. When I let out the clutch the rear tires just slid, as if the engine was locked. Bendix jam somehow? I've got a failing fan clutch... if the fan clutch failed could the fan belt keep the engine from turning over? Should I remove the belt (fan/alternator) and try to start the car or would that damage it? Don From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 19 09:12:15 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:12:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: So, how would I store it then? My fist thought is to coat it in a wax rust protectant vs oil as I am unlikely to fire it very often.. by that I mean the last time I fired anything was 30 years ago.. Lester On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:50 AM, derf wrote: > Mitchell sells high grade collectable stuff. Mausers used to be > cheap and plentiful but now they are getting harder to find and more > expensive. You could shoot it, hang it on the wall, or store it for > future use or sale. What you have is a very good example and it will > appreciate. Keep it clean and don't let it rust. Feel free to shoot > it just be weary of some "corrosive" ammo. Much surplus ammo has a > corrosive component that is OK to shoot but must be cleaned soon after > shooting or it will greatly accelerate rust which would harm the gun. > It is better to shoot "non-corrosive" ammo if you can. Either way, > though, if you clean and oil it shortly after shooting it will be > fine. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 09:19:15 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:19:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'd invest a little in a protective sock. http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=741486 From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Oct 19 09:23:47 2011 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:23:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> While I may have to buy a box for the novelty, I have a real problem with part of this. The disclaimer basically says this ammo is only suitable for use against zombies. It is likely a repackaged version of one of their acclaimed defensive rounds. My complaints are these; marketing is great, but guns and ammo are real and dangerous. I'm against things that make guns look like toys. Honestly, if we have to ban a type of gun, I'd put the brightly colored composite handguns (like the pink Walther p22s) much higher up the list than scary looking "assault rifles". No one ever picks up an AR-15 and thinks it's a watergun! Secondly, I fear someone will buy these as a home defense round (which they probably are) defend themselves, and get sued under the argument, "the coroner's report clearly says that he was NOT a zombie, he has not risen! He has no hunger for brains!". This would be on par with the wrongful death suits surrounding handloads and customized guns. These suits are often overturned, but I feel the disclaimer may be pushing extra liability on the customer. Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:46 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo Haven't had any gun content for awhile. What a marketing concept. Check out the vid: http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/andrewpayne at intrex.net From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Oct 19 11:10:39 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:10:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try taking the plugs out. Water doesn't compress well. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 12:27:43 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:27:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> Message-ID: Yes, common sense is more and more becoming uncommon. What about the guy who dresses up to do a Zombie Walk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_walk and gets mowed down by some vigilant gun nut? Wouldn't clever zombies attack on halloween so as to have less chance of being spotted than other times? A woman walks into a bar with a duck under her arm..... Wait, you can't tell that joke because it offends women, PETA, and alcoholics. No one can take a joke anymore and you can't do much of anything without offending someone. From pchast at francomm.com Wed Oct 19 14:57:57 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:57:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Jammed 1500 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm sorry I'm late on this. First. Does it roll with the clutch released. Then I'd rap on the Bendix with a mallet while someone rocks the car in gear. If the engine did not turn over then, I'd pull all plugs and try again. check for water in the cylinders.- blown head gasket... Then I'd call for a tow. Pete AThens, NY On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:55:18 -0400, Don Herrick wrote: > > OK, I've got another problem I can't figure out. 1979 Midget 1500. Was > in > the shopping center parking lot, went to start it and the engine seemed > to > turn over only about 1/2 a turn and stopped (charging light is on). > Battery > is fine. I figured a starter problem so I tried to do a push start. > When I > let out the clutch the rear tires just slid, as if the engine was locked. > Bendix jam somehow? I've got a failing fan clutch... if the fan clutch > failed could the fan belt keep the engine from turning over? Should I > remove the belt (fan/alternator) and try to start the car or would that > damage it? > > Don > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From lists at dinospider.com Wed Oct 19 15:39:52 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:39:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> Message-ID: <4E9F43A8.5030102@dinospider.com> And I am offended that you think I will be offended...now finish the dammed joke because I thought it was a duck walks with a woman... :) :) :) mike On 10/19/2011 11:27 AM, derf wrote: > Yes, common sense is more and more becoming uncommon. > > What about the guy who dresses up to do a Zombie Walk > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_walk > and gets mowed down by some vigilant gun nut? > > Wouldn't clever zombies attack on halloween so as to have less chance > of being spotted than other times? > > > A woman walks into a bar with a duck under her arm..... > Wait, you can't tell that joke because it offends women, PETA, and alcoholics. > > No one can take a joke anymore and you can't do much of anything > without offending someone. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From pdx.pete at frontier.com Wed Oct 19 16:03:59 2011 From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <605537390.275578.1319061839244.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> "A woman walks into a bar with a duck under her arm..." "That joke offends me." "Well, the fact that the joke offends YOU offends ME." And this could go on forever and ever but you get the point. (I work in an environment that can at time be entirely too PC) From shop at justbrits.com Wed Oct 19 16:14:24 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:14:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> Message-ID: <4E9F4BC0.80104@justbrits.com> << Wait, you can't tell that joke because it offends women, PETA, and alcoholics. >> THAT's SEXEST derf !!!! And you OMITTED the Pro-deodorant and Anti-deodorant groups ! ! ! Tsk, tsk ! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 16:50:49 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:50:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:27 PM, derf wrote: > No one can take a joke anymore and you can't do much of anything > without offending someone. > And THAT is my one joy in life these days!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From kgrowler at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 19:46:13 2011 From: kgrowler at gmail.com (Kim Tonry) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:46:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets Message-ID: A friend of my next door neighbor's re-acquired a 1275 Sprite he owned years ago and is working on making it roadworthy again. Somewhere in the process, the motor mount brackets (factory part #s CHA 218 - RH Motor Mount Bracket and CHA 219 - LH Motor Mount Bracket) that attach to the frame rails have gone missing. Not a currently available part from the usual suppliers. I don't have any parts cars these days. Does anyone on the list have a pair they can part with? Kim Tonry Downers Grove, IL U.S.A. From pdx.pete at frontier.com Wed Oct 19 20:14:15 2011 From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 02:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1646806551.278964.1319076855493.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Thanks, Jim! That's the best laff I've had in a long, long time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" > No one can take a joke anymore and you can't do much of anything > without offending someone. And THAT is my one joy in life these days!! From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 21:15:29 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:15:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <4E9F43A8.5030102@dinospider.com> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> <4E9F43A8.5030102@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Bartender says: "Where'd you pick up that UGLY dog?" Woman, indignant, says: "I'll have you know this is a DUCK." Bartender says: From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 21:16:07 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:16:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <4E9F43A8.5030102@dinospider.com> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> <4E9F43A8.5030102@dinospider.com> Message-ID: "I was talking to the duck." From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 21:17:18 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:17:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is sane. Message-ID: What do you do to an elephant with three balls? From shop at justbrits.com Wed Oct 19 21:28:24 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:28:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <605537390.275578.1319061839244.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <605537390.275578.1319061839244.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4E9F9558.8070008@justbrits.com> WHO............ << "Well, the fact that the joke offends YOU offends ME." >> "determines" if it's a "joke" in the FIRST place ?!?!? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 01:17:39 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> <4E9F43A8.5030102@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <1319095059.62526.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ________________________________ "I was talking to the duck." Seroiously? Anybody who gets offended by that, needs to be offended. (I'll volunteer for the job) I guess they would also be upset with a Henny Youngman "Take my wife, Please!" routine. If this stuff is offensive, it goes a long way toward explaining why I can piss people off so easily nowadays. Which is kind of a passtime of mine, I suppose. David Booker Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 01:19:20 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is sane. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1319095160.43749.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I give, what DO you do to an elephant with three balls? ________________________________ From: derf To: Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is sane. What do you do to an elephant with three balls? _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 04:35:36 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:35:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oh, wouldn't Frank have LOVED this one In-Reply-To: <1171674627.407246.1318956323932.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <002c01cc8d9d$cf41f550$6dc5dff0$@net> <1171674627.407246.1318956323932.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: so funny Bugeye wana-be. Lin On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > 187,000 yen == 2,440 USD.. not cheap! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- "Robert Evans" wrote: > > > Oh, I can hear him now. (But those are not nice words, Frank!) > > > > http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~axe/bugpage/bugeye.html > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From george.brokaw at cox.net Thu Oct 20 04:44:14 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:44:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is sane. In-Reply-To: <1319095160.43749.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1319095160.43749.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <050501cc8f15$362f81b0$a28e8510$@brokaw@cox.net> Walk him and pitch to the rhino. It IS World Series time! :) -----Original Message----- I give, what DO you do to an elephant with three balls? ________________________________ What do you do to an elephant with three balls? _______________________________________________ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 05:21:38 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:21:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1319095059.62526.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> <4E9F43A8.5030102@dinospider.com> <1319095059.62526.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If you can't stand for anything, you will fall for everything. On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:17 AM, David Booker wrote: > ________________________________ > > > "I was talking to the duck." > Seroiously? Anybody who gets offended by that, needs to be offended. (I'll > volunteer for the job) I guess they would also be upset with a Henny > Youngman > "Take my wife, Please!" routine. > > If this stuff is offensive, it goes a long > way toward explaining why I can piss people off so easily nowadays. Which > is > kind of a passtime of mine, I suppose. > > David Booker > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 05:36:19 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 04:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is sane. In-Reply-To: <050501cc8f15$362f81b0$a28e8510$@brokaw@cox.net> References: <1319095160.43749.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <050501cc8f15$362f81b0$a28e8510$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: <1319110579.96309.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I believe a rimshot is appropriate there but don't have a drumset handy... :-) Walk him and pitch to the rhino. It IS World Series time! :) -----Original Message----- I give, what DO you do to an elephant with three balls? ________________________________ What do you do to an elephant with three balls? _______________________________________________ From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 05:59:47 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 04:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1319111987.41986.YahooMailNeo@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MG-MIDGET-MOTOR-MOUNT-BRACKETS-/140489225977?pt=Motor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item20b5cf76f9 Item number:140489225977 John Fogelsville, PA ________________________________ From: Kim Tonry To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets A friend of my next door neighbor's re-acquired a 1275 Sprite he owned years ago and is working on making it roadworthy again. Somewhere in the process, the motor mount brackets (factory part #s CHA 218 - RH Motor Mount Bracket and CHA 219 - LH Motor Mount Bracket) that attach to the frame rails have gone missing. Not a currently available part from the usual suppliers. I don't have any parts cars these days. Does anyone on the list have a pair they can part with? Kim Tonry Downers Grove, IL U.S.A. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fastvee at yahoo.com From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu Oct 20 06:53:17 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] master cylinder recall by MOSS Message-ID: <2108950636.1013004.1319115197537.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Notification of A Voluntary Recall of Brake Master Cylinders This voluntary recall applies ONLY to the brake master cylinders listed below: Item Description & Application 180-791 Brake Master Cylinder for Nash Metropolitan Clutch Master Cylinder for MGA Twin Cam and MGA MK II Deluxe 513-319 Brake Master Cylinder for Austin Healey BN7, BT7, BJ7 (Cars without a brake servo) Clutch Master Cylinder for Austin Healey BN4 from CE 48863, BN6, BN7, BT7, BJ7, BJ8 without a brake servo 581-101 Austin Healey 3000s (BN7, BT7, BJ7, BJ8) with power brakes. 581-011 Triumph TR3 from TS13046 through TR 3B 581-032 Triumph TR4 from CT5784 on and TR4A. (Girling brake system) 581-512 Brake Master Cylinder on Austin Healey BN4 to CE 48862. Clutch Master Cylinder on Triumph TR4-4A. The Moss Technical Services department has determined that between approximately March 1, 2010 and February 1, 2011, we received, and sold brake master cylinders from a single manufacturer under the brand name Classic Gold (with one exception) with an internal design element that may fail in use. Specifically at issue is the foot valve. Although no one had reported a foot valve failure in an installed master cylinder, it had been suggested that because the foot valve design differed from an original Girling design, it was suspect. There are many different foot valve designs, so the difference in appearance or design is not, in and of itself, a cause for concern. However, the manufacturer of the master cylinder did not have test data on this particular valve. We suspended sales and arranged for the brake master cylinders to be tested according to SAE standards by an independent automotive testing laboratory to determine if there was a risk of foot valve failure in use. Foot valve failures were experienced during the extreme pressure test at 3,000 psi and after 10,000 cycles at 248B: F during a heat durability test. The pressures and temperatures used in the tests far exceed the pressure and temperatures you would experience with the master cylinder installed in a car, but the failure of a foot valve is serious because it closes off the port to the brake fluid reservoir when you step on the brake pedal. If the foot valve fails to close, the pedal will go to the floor without putting any pressure on the brake shoes or pads. In other words, Your brakes could fail, with the potential for serious injury. Moss is therefore voluntarily recalling the brake master cylinders listed above because they share this particular foot valve design. Sincerely, Michael Grant Product Manager, Moss Motors Ltd. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Oct 20 07:38:58 2011 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:38:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> Message-ID: <004601cc8f2d$9f41ed60$ddc5c820$@intrex.net> Funny how a comment about it being a little irresponsible to release a product with a warning label that basically says "never use", has turned into another PC discussion about being offended. Now if I suggested that harbor freight tools should come with a label that says, "Not for actual use" everyone would have understood my point. I did buy a pair of safety glasses from hf once with a label reading "always wear eye protection when using this product". Drew From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 07:42:41 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <004601cc8f2d$9f41ed60$ddc5c820$@intrex.net> References: <1318988771.7964.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002601cc8e73$197c9500$4c75bf00$@intrex.net> <004601cc8f2d$9f41ed60$ddc5c820$@intrex.net> Message-ID: My Chinese lathe had a line in the instruction manual: "Not to wear dress when running machine." From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 08:33:23 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:33:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: DeLorean Message-ID: <5D9CACE3A00F451A9308B31B723C6398@Inspiron> Well it looks like the Delorean will be coming back as an electric car this time, 2013 is when they are suppose to be rolling off the assembly line, 90 to 100k in price!! Greg Higgins http://inhabitat.com/all-electric-delorean-car-to-hit-the-streets-in-2013/ From cantrall at wrcresearch.com Thu Oct 20 08:57:49 2011 From: cantrall at wrcresearch.com (cantrall at wrcresearch.com) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:57:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Message-ID: Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your patience,Bill From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 20 09:08:04 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:08:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] master cylinder recall by MOSS In-Reply-To: <2108950636.1013004.1319115197537.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.wes tchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2108950636.1013004.1319115197537.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20111020080855.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> For what it is worth.... this applies ONLY to cylinders reproduced for Moss that were originally GIRLING single acting master cylinders. This does NOT apply to anything found on Spridgets and only to CLUTCH masters on a select few MGAs MGs for almost all applications were made by Lockheed. This does NOT affect most of us. Peter C ========= At 07:53 AM 10/20/2011, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: >Notification of A Voluntary Recall of Brake Master Cylinders >This voluntary recall applies ONLY to the brake master cylinders listed below: From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Oct 20 09:09:33 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:09:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is sane. In-Reply-To: <050501cc8f15$362f81b0$a28e8510$@brokaw@cox.net> References: <1319095160.43749.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <050501cc8f15$362f81b0$a28e8510$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: <4EA039AD.6050403@wi.net> Mercy, it's not even November yet. Gonn be looooong winter. Funny though! :-0 DW On 10/20/2011 5:44 AM, Paul Herder wrote: > Walk him and pitch to the rhino. > > It IS World Series time! > > :) > > -----Original Message----- > > I give, what DO you do to an elephant with three balls? > ________________________________ > > What do you do to an elephant with three balls? From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Oct 20 09:41:56 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:41:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets In-Reply-To: <1319111987.41986.YahooMailNeo@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1319111987.41986.YahooMailNeo@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3337EAA0974441DEB770F5A0CD62F733@spider> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140489225977 ==================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fastvee Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:00 AM To: Kim Tonry; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets http://www.ebay.com/itm/MG-MIDGET-MOTOR-MOUNT-BRACKETS-/140489225977?pt=Moto r s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item20b5cf76f9 Item number:140489225977 John Fogelsville, PA ________________________________ From: Kim Tonry To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets A friend of my next door neighbor's re-acquired a 1275 Sprite he owned years ago and is working on making it roadworthy again. Somewhere in the process, the motor mount brackets (factory part #s CHA 218 - RH Motor Mount Bracket and CHA 219 - LH Motor Mount Bracket) that attach to the frame rails have gone missing. Not a currently available part from the usual suppliers. I don't have any parts cars these days. Does anyone on the list have a pair they can part with? Kim Tonry Downers Grove, IL U.S.A. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fastvee at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From george.brokaw at cox.net Thu Oct 20 10:13:11 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:13:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is sane. In-Reply-To: <1319110579.96309.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1319095160.43749.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <050501cc8f15$362f81b0$a28e8510$@brokaw@cox.net> <1319110579.96309.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <054601cc8f43$2a28cec0$7e7a6c40$@brokaw@cox.net> Here you go! ;^) http://instantrimshot.com/ Paul -----Original Message----- I believe a rimshot is appropriate there but don't have a drumset handy... :-) Walk him and pitch to the rhino. It IS World Series time! :) -----Original Message----- I give, what DO you do to an elephant with three balls? ________________________________ What do you do to an elephant with three balls? _______________________________________________ From nory1 at roadrunner.com Thu Oct 20 10:27:21 2011 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:27:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] master cylinder recall by MOSS In-Reply-To: <2108950636.1013004.1319115197537.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20111020162721.5S5PX.46202.root@cdptpa-web03-z02> The one I put in the Midget isn't listed, but if it's made by the same manufacturer, I'm going to panic. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 11:20:57 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:20:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: DeLorean In-Reply-To: <5D9CACE3A00F451A9308B31B723C6398@Inspiron> References: <5D9CACE3A00F451A9308B31B723C6398@Inspiron> Message-ID: I dunno if they have them but I think hub motor technology is coming along. On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Greg Higgins wrote: > Well it looks like the Delorean will be coming back as an electric car this From lmacy at mac.com Thu Oct 20 12:48:24 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:48:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] DeLorean In-Reply-To: <5D9CACE3A00F451A9308B31B723C6398@Inspiron> References: <5D9CACE3A00F451A9308B31B723C6398@Inspiron> Message-ID: We can just hope they don't get snowed under this time!! Larry On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Greg Higgins wrote: > Well it looks like the Delorean will be coming back as an electric car this > time, 2013 is when they are suppose to be rolling off the assembly line, 90 > to 100k in price!! > > Greg Higgins > > http://inhabitat.com/all-electric-delorean-car-to-hit-the-streets-in-2013/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From millerls at ado13.com Thu Oct 20 13:16:20 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:16:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a pair but I will need a few days to locate them. Larry Miller On Oct 19, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Kim Tonry wrote: > A friend of my next door neighbor's re-acquired a 1275 Sprite he owned years > ago and is working on making it roadworthy again. Somewhere in the process, > the motor mount brackets (factory part #s CHA 218 - RH Motor Mount Bracket > and CHA 219 - LH Motor Mount Bracket) that attach to the frame rails have > gone missing. Not a currently available part from the usual suppliers. I > don't have any parts cars these days. Does anyone on the list have a pair > they can part with? > > Kim Tonry > Downers Grove, IL U.S.A. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 13:31:15 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:31:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 In Parking Lot Message-ID: We had what looks like might be a similar problem with my sons car. The battery looked good but upon further examination it did not have enough power to crank the engine. Upon cranking the engine would move just a slight amount. It also tested out above 12 volts on my tester. The lights turned on, the radio played fine, etc., , but the cranking power was not there. We replaced the battery and the car has been doing fine ever since. Just a thought regarding. .. Kirk From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Oct 20 14:46:11 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:46:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] DeLorean In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA08893.3040403@comcast.net> derf wrote: > I dunno if they have them but I think hub motor technology is coming along. It's about time! It was on the Original Porsche. No, *the* original Porsche! -- Kent McLean '56 Austin-Healey 100 BN2 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 20 16:36:44 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:36:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] DeLorean In-Reply-To: References: <5D9CACE3A00F451A9308B31B723C6398@Inspiron> Message-ID: Have a Coke and relax. What can possibly go wrong? -----Original Message----- From: Macy Larry Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:48 PM To: Greg Higgins Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] DeLorean We can just hope they don't get snowed under this time!! Larry On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Greg Higgins wrote: > Well it looks like the Delorean will be coming back as an electric car > this > time, 2013 is when they are suppose to be rolling off the assembly line, > 90 > to 100k in price!! > > Greg Higgins > > http://inhabitat.com/all-electric-delorean-car-to-hit-the-streets-in-2013/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Oct 20 18:01:29 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Can we puhleeez get back on topic. This is serious stuff. I'm concerned the 9mm Zombie Ammo doesn't have enough stopping power. At the very least I'd want a sidearm with .40 cal, but more likely a .45. Probably better to go with the 12 ga. Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 10/20/11, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo To: "Andrew Payne" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 9:42 AM My Chinese lathe had a line in the instruction manual: "Not to wear dress when running machine." Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Oct 20 20:36:37 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1984617165.443925.1319164597180.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I used to work for one... does that count? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "HealeyRick" wrote: > Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? From shop at justbrits.com Thu Oct 20 22:04:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:04:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EA0EF4B.1000300@justbrits.com> << Probably better to go with the 12 ga. >> Hasn't been THAT long ago that I saw a pic of you, Rick ! ! You musta been on a binge *workout* to get yer wrists that BIG and/or STRONG enough for a .12 ga. pistol !?!?!? Is the weapon a revolver or semi-auto ?? Manufacturer [er, or homemade?] ?? What loads do you use generally ? ? ? Almost forgot -:), wadda ya hunt -:) ??? PPP From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 23:53:50 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:53:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1984617165.443925.1319164597180.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1984617165.443925.1319164597180.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I worked rotating shift for 42 years before I retired. I think I was a zombie for part of that time.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I used to work for one... does that count? From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 00:15:07 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:15:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooler Corn In-Reply-To: <1319063635.30823.YahooMailClassic@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1319063635.30823.YahooMailClassic@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: *The Best Way to Cook Corn on the Cob for a Crowd?* It's Cooler Corn! [image: Description: cooler-corn.jpg] Am I the only person who hasn't heard of "cooler corn"? As an obsessive food nerd, you'd expect that I would have at least heard of it, but over the weekend I was blind-sided by the simple genius of this method for cooking loads of corn on the cob perfectly. I was hepped to it while visiting my family in Georgia . Short story: We like corn on the cob. And with eight adults at the table, that means a couple of dozen ears. We would have used the lobster pot to cook them all, but the lobster pot was busy steaming lobster. Then my sister, a capable Georgia cook with years of camping experience, says "let's do cooler corn!" Before I can ask "what the hell is cooler corn?" a Coleman cooler appears from the garage, is wiped clean, then filled with the shucked ears. Next, two kettles-full of boiling water are poured over the corn and the top closed. Then nothing. When we sat down to dinner 30 minutes later and opened it, the corn was perfectly cooked. My mind was blown. And I'm told that the corn will remain at the perfect level of doneness for a couple of hours. Turns out, Cooler Corn is pretty well known among the outdoorsy set But for those of us who avoid tents as much as possible, it's perfect for large barbecues and way less of mess than grilling. In fact, I may even buy another cooler just so I'm ready for next summer. Now that I'm in the know. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Oct 21 01:32:07 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke NO LBC Hit Delete now for the love of all that is... Message-ID: <4954f.49178948.3bd279f7@aol.com> A tetra tet? In a message dated 20/10/2011 07:16:05 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: What do you do to an elephant with three balls? From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 04:05:13 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cooler Corn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319191513.96949.YahooMailClassic@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> well i'll be darned! i've been using coolers since camping with my parents as a kid. keeping food cold was the only use i've known of. never get the "cooler" warm let alone hot! LOL! thanks for the great tip! time to start looking for end of season close out's at local suspect stores i guess? time to get a dedicated corn cooler! chuck we do have a real old cooler that long ago lost it's proper drain plug (i found a cap plug that fits rather snugly) that serves as a snack cooler for crackers , chips and pretzels. keeps the goodies out of sunlight , humidity , from getting "baked" if it's warm , and...keeps insects out of the food. ;) --- On Fri, 10/21/11, WFO Herb wrote: From: WFO Herb Subject: [Spridgets] Cooler Corn To: "Spridgeteers" Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 2:15 AM *The Best Way to Cook Corn on the Cob for a Crowd?* It's Cooler Corn! [image: Description: cooler-corn.jpg] Am I the only person who hasn't heard of "cooler corn"? As an obsessive food nerd, you'd expect that I would have at least heard of it, but over the weekend I was blind-sided by the simple genius of this method for cooking loads of corn on the cob perfectly. I was hepped to it while visiting my family in Georgia . Short story: We like corn on the cob. And with eight adults at the table, that means a couple of dozen ears. We would have used the lobster pot to cook them all, but the lobster pot was busy steaming lobster. Then my sister, a capable Georgia cook with years of camping experience, says "let's do cooler corn!" Before I can ask "what the hell is cooler corn?" a Coleman cooler appears from the garage, is wiped clean, then filled with the shucked ears. Next, two kettles-full of boiling water are poured over the corn and the top closed. Then nothing. When we sat down to dinner 30 minutes later and opened it, the corn was perfectly cooked. My mind was blown. And I'm told that the corn will remain at the perfect level of doneness for a couple of hours. Turns out, Cooler Corn is pretty well known among the outdoorsy set But for those of us who avoid tents as much as possible, it's perfect for large barbecues and way less of mess than grilling. In fact, I may even buy another cooler just so I'm ready for next summer. Now that I'm in the know. From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Oct 21 05:46:32 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Parts Message-ID: <1319197592.35622.YahooMailNeo@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12966 John Fogelsville, PA From andrewpayne at intrex.net Fri Oct 21 08:08:16 2011 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:08:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006801cc8ffa$e14fef90$a3efceb0$@intrex.net> This is an interesting question Rick, there are few scenarios in which a 12 gauge would not be better. As to stopping power, we all know that there are only three ways to stop a zombie; a headshot, fire, and decapitation. Since we are only talking about headshots, 9mm might be preferable due to the added capacity per magazine and lighter overall weight. On the other hand, studies have shown that even with their nearly inoperative brains, zombies are 18% more intimidated by a good old 1911 than a Glock. Drew From: HealeyRick [mailto:healeyrick at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:01 PM To: Andrew Payne; derf Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo Can we puhleeez get back on topic. This is serious stuff. I'm concerned the 9mm Zombie Ammo doesn't have enough stopping power. At the very least I'd want a sidearm with .40 cal, but more likely a .45. Probably better to go with the 12 ga. Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 10/20/11, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo To: "Andrew Payne" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 9:42 AM My Chinese lathe had a line in the instruction manual: "Not to wear dress when running machine." Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 21 08:55:04 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (HomeHandy) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooler Corn In-Reply-To: References: <1319063635.30823.YahooMailClassic@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <78DC801E0B7C4339A833DD61A84F92FD@Snoopy> Thatbs a much easier way to do a lot of corn than I have been using. I grill the corn in the shucks for about 20 min, then wrap each ear separately in a sheet of newspaper and place it in the "cooler/warmer". Just before your ready to eat, unwrap and remove the shucks and silks. Corn is really good this way. BUT, Cooler Corn sounds like much less trouble. I will have to try it next year. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: WFO Herb Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:15 AM To: Spridgeteers Subject: [Spridgets] Cooler Corn *The Best Way to Cook Corn on the Cob for a Crowd?* It's Cooler Corn! [image: Description: cooler-corn.jpg] Am I the only person who hasn't heard of "cooler corn"? As an obsessive food nerd, you'd expect that I would have at least heard of it, but over the weekend I was blind-sided by the simple genius of this method for cooking loads of corn on the cob perfectly. I was hepped to it while visiting my family in Georgia . Short story: We like corn on the cob. And with eight adults at the table, that means a couple of dozen ears. We would have used the lobster pot to cook them all, but the lobster pot was busy steaming lobster. Then my sister, a capable Georgia cook with years of camping experience, says "let's do cooler corn!" Before I can ask "what the hell is cooler corn?" a Coleman cooler appears from the garage, is wiped clean, then filled with the shucked ears. Next, two kettles-full of boiling water are poured over the corn and the top closed. Then nothing. When we sat down to dinner 30 minutes later and opened it, the corn was perfectly cooked. My mind was blown. And I'm told that the corn will remain at the perfect level of doneness for a couple of hours. Turns out, Cooler Corn is pretty well known among the outdoorsy set But for those of us who avoid tents as much as possible, it's perfect for large barbecues and way less of mess than grilling. In fact, I may even buy another cooler just so I'm ready for next summer. Now that I'm in the know. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/homehandy at sbcglobal.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Oct 21 09:06:53 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:06:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1984617165.443925.1319164597180.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1984617165.443925.1319164597180.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Huh.. and I have had more than a few work for me.. Lester On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I used to work for one... does that count? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- "HealeyRick" wrote: > >> Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From cantrall at wrcresearch.com Fri Oct 21 11:39:20 2011 From: cantrall at wrcresearch.com (cantrall at wrcresearch.com) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:39:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Message-ID: Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your patience,Bill From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 21 11:48:59 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:48:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Ears of corn...who would have thought? Message-ID: <201110211048562.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Even easier....PPP > >This is unbelievable! >......And all these years and time wasted stripping the silk! > >ShuckingCorn--Clean Ears >Everytime - YouTube From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 12:18:22 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:18:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooler Corn In-Reply-To: <78DC801E0B7C4339A833DD61A84F92FD@Snoopy> References: <1319063635.30823.YahooMailClassic@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <78DC801E0B7C4339A833DD61A84F92FD@Snoopy> Message-ID: Just make sure your cooler will withstand the heat. I bet most of the new Chinese coolers are not designed for 200 degree water and the liner will start rippling. That's why they call them "coolers." Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM, HomeHandy wrote: > Thatb s a much easier way to do a lot of corn than I have been using. I > grill the corn in the shucks for about 20 min, then wrap each ear separately > in a sheet of newspaper and place it in the "cooler/warmer". Just before > your ready to eat, unwrap and remove the shucks and silks. Corn is really > good this way. BUT, Cooler Corn sounds like much less trouble. I will have > to try it next year. > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- From: WFO Herb > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:15 AM > To: Spridgeteers > Subject: [Spridgets] Cooler Corn > > *The Best Way to Cook Corn on the Cob for a Crowd?* > > > > It's Cooler Corn! > > > > [image: Description: cooler-corn.jpg] > > > Am I the only person who hasn't heard of "cooler corn"? > > As an obsessive food nerd, you'd expect that I would have at least heard of > it, but over the weekend I was blind-sided by the simple genius of this > method for cooking loads of corn on the cob perfectly. > > I was hepped to it while visiting my family in Georgia . Short story: We > like corn on the cob. And with eight adults at the table, that means a > couple of dozen ears. We would have used the lobster pot to cook them all, > but the lobster pot was busy steaming lobster. > > > > Then my sister, a capable Georgia cook with years of camping experience, > says "let's do cooler corn!" Before I can ask "what the hell is cooler > corn?" a Coleman cooler appears from the garage, is wiped clean, then > filled > with the shucked ears. Next, two kettles-full of boiling water are poured > over the corn and the top closed. > > Then nothing. > > When we sat down to dinner 30 minutes later and opened it, the corn was > perfectly cooked. My mind was blown. And I'm told that the corn will remain > at the perfect level of doneness for a couple of hours. > > Turns out, Cooler Corn is pretty well known among the outdoorsy set But > for > those of us who avoid tents as much as possible, it's perfect for large > barbecues and way less of mess than grilling. In fact, I may even buy > another cooler just so I'm ready for next summer. Now that I'm in the know. From lists at dinospider.com Fri Oct 21 12:56:17 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:56:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319155289.24226.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EA1C051.1040403@dinospider.com> Yeah I wonder why they went to 115gr. round on the 9mm. I know all the debates of a lighter round traveling at a higher speed to increase penetration vs. a heavier round traveling at lower speed not penetrating very deep, but why 115gr. My zombie ammo uses 124gr rounds loaded a little hotter than usual, its worked well so far, no zombie has yet gotten to me. Seems a fatal flaw in their marketing to me, maybe their board of directors has a few zombies on it and they were trying to make it less harmful to zombies. mike On 10/20/2011 05:01 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Can we puhleeez get back on topic. This is serious stuff. I'm concerned the > 9mm Zombie Ammo doesn't have enough stopping power. At the very least I'd > want a sidearm with .40 cal, but more likely a .45. Probably better to go > with the 12 ga. Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Thu, 10/20/11, derf wrote: > > From: derf > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo > To: "Andrew Payne" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 9:42 AM > > My Chinese lathe had a line in the instruction manual: "Not to wear > dress when running machine." > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Oct 21 14:51:01 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. Message-ID: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 15:12:20 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:12:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Ears of corn...who would have thought? In-Reply-To: <201110211048562.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110211048562.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Well, shucks!!! Who knew!! Can you still smoke the silk? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Even easier....PPP > >> >> This is unbelievable! >> ......And all these years and time wasted stripping the silk! >> >> >> >ShuckingCorn--**Clean Ears Everytime - YouTube >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From robert.duquette at me.com Fri Oct 21 16:16:26 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:16:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1984617165.443925.1319164597180.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I might be one! Robert I intend to live forever, or die trying. On 2011-10-21, at 11:06 AM, Lester wrote: > Huh.. and I have had more than a few work for me.. > > Lester > > > On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > >> I used to work for one... does that count? >> >> -- >> Dave G KK7SS >> Richland, WA >> >> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| >> '65 Sprite - running :) >> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) >> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid >> >> ----- "HealeyRick" wrote: >> >>> Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? >> ______________________________________________ From robert.duquette at me.com Fri Oct 21 16:24:43 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:24:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <668BD2B9-EC03-4EFC-A8D5-5F2740F7D4F7@me.com> Not touching that one! Robert Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. On 2011-10-20, at 3:16 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > I have a pair but I will need a few days to locate them. > > Larry Miller From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri Oct 21 16:57:21 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:57:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I think that we all know the definition of "dream on" BillM > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:51:01 +0000 > From: kk7ss at frontier.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html > > "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Oct 21 17:04:18 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1319238258.55769.YahooMailRC@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> And even more than that in BS jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Fri, October 21, 2011 4:51:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Oct 21 17:25:58 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <4EA1C051.1040403@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <886950501.245033.1319239558975.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> As long as we're on the subject, I've been thinking of supplementing my .380 and 9mm with something a little more substantial. What do you guys think of the Taurus Judge? It loads both .45 and 410 shotgun shells. Is there something else that you would recommend? I have a small hand and pretty severe arthritis in my fingers. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:56:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo Yeah I wonder why they went to 115gr. round on the 9mm. I know all the debates of a lighter round traveling at a higher speed to increase penetration vs. a heavier round traveling at lower speed not penetrating very deep, but why 115gr. My zombie ammo uses 124gr rounds loaded a little hotter than usual, its worked well so far, no zombie has yet gotten to me. Seems a fatal flaw in their marketing to me, maybe their board of directors has a few zombies on it and they were trying to make it less harmful to zombies. mike On 10/20/2011 05:01 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Can we puhleeez get back on topic. This is serious stuff. I'm concerned the > 9mm Zombie Ammo doesn't have enough stopping power. At the very least I'd > want a sidearm with .40 cal, but more likely a .45. Probably better to go > with the 12 ga. Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Thu, 10/20/11, derf wrote: > > From: derf > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo > To: "Andrew Payne" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 9:42 AM > > My Chinese lathe had a line in the instruction manual: "Not to wear > dress when running machine." > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 17:50:17 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I would not be interested in the car, but I'd like to look at the receipts. It would have to be very entertaining. ;) On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html > > "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 18:04:39 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:04:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Asking damn near $20K for a car needing 1st gear? Does Portland allow medical marijuana? Just wonderin' On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html > > "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 18:26:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:26:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Frank could have made 20 of those for $70,000. I miss Frank. From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Oct 21 18:36:48 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1239567913.245627.1319243808369.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> That doesn't look like any Spridget engine that I've ever seen. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:51:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From leavcast at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 18:37:34 2011 From: leavcast at gmail.com (George Castleberry) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:37:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <24F9397F73A242A4B5ACBC6DDD1B6D9D@shinynewlaptop> A new 1st gear shouldn't cost this guy more than about $12K if he has spent $70K already. George AN5 BN1 Flagstaff ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave KK7SS To: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:51 PM Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/leavcast at gmail.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 20:30:58 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:30:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <886950501.245033.1319239558975.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <4EA1C051.1040403@dinospider.com> <886950501.245033.1319239558975.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: FWIW, you can load 5 .36 lead balls into a 410 shotgun shell. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:25 PM, wrote: > As long as we're on the subject, I've been thinking of supplementing my > .380 and 9mm with something a little more substantial. What do you guys > think of the Taurus Judge? It loads both .45 and 410 shotgun shells. Is > there something else that you would recommend? I have a small hand and > pretty severe arthritis in my fingers. > > Kate > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Rambour" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:56:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo > > Yeah I wonder why they went to 115gr. round on the 9mm. I know all the > debates of a lighter round traveling at a higher speed to increase > penetration vs. a heavier round traveling at lower speed not penetrating > very deep, but why 115gr. My zombie ammo uses 124gr rounds loaded a > little hotter than usual, its worked well so far, no zombie has yet > gotten to me. Seems a fatal flaw in their marketing to me, maybe their > board of directors has a few zombies on it and they were trying to make > it less harmful to zombies. > > mike > > On 10/20/2011 05:01 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > > Can we puhleeez get back on topic. This is serious stuff. I'm concerned > the > > 9mm Zombie Ammo doesn't have enough stopping power. At the very least > I'd > > want a sidearm with .40 cal, but more likely a .45. Probably better to > go > > with the 12 ga. Anyone have any real life Zombie experience? > > > > Rick > > > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > > > --- On Thu, 10/20/11, derf wrote: > > > > From: derf > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo > > To: "Andrew Payne" > > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 9:42 AM > > > > My Chinese lathe had a line in the instruction manual: "Not to wear > > dress when running machine." > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 22:06:51 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:06:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Not only Portland...ALL or Oregon! We're the happiest people in the world. From cantrall at wrcresearch.com Fri Oct 21 23:55:22 2011 From: cantrall at wrcresearch.com (cantrall at wrcresearch.com) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:55:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Message-ID: Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your patience,Bill From shelden3 at pldi.net Fri Oct 21 23:45:06 2011 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (cshelden) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:45:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <886950501.245033.1319239558975.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <4EA1C051.1040403@dinospider.com> <886950501.245033.1319239558975.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: ******FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE******* From: The Zombie Eradication Network (ZEN) To: All humans in sector 1 (USA) Subject: Effective Eradication of non humans (zombies) infected with * Necro-Mortosis* Sub Topic: Choosing effective caliber or weapon and notice of hording Extensive research has shown that the most effective means to neutralize a zombie is through the destruction of the brain. This can come in the form of a bullet, blunt intrument, sharp intrument, arrow. ***WARNING*** Only use non silenced weapons in areas of minimal Necro-Mortosis activity. Sectors 3,4,6 and 8 have reported that those infected are alerted to the sounds of gun fire. It is not known at this time if those infected can hear or if it is a vibration through the airwaves that stimulates the minimally active cerebral cortex. The use of non silenced weapons in urban areas has been shown to cause hording of zombies, immediate extraction of non infected humans is paramount for survival, only use such weapons in dire emergency. Sectors 2 and 5 are in rural areas they have reported that as many as 200+ infected individuals have converged on an area that has logged the use of non silenced weapons. It is the the position of ZEN to urge members to no longer participate in such practices. Please refer to publication 2-1911 for research results on which caliber of ammunition is most effective. In summary it has been found that any round larger that .22 is sufficient if placed in the the cranial cavity (head). If possible the use of 24" machete or other sharp device such as sword or axe is the preferred method of neutralization at this time. It has been found that Spridgets are the least effective mode of transportation for escape from areas of infection, minimal roof protection is available in such vehicles while they do provide enhanced handling. Some areas have reported effective protection from the Morris Minor. *********END OF RELEASE************ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Oct 22 02:40:55 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 04:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. Message-ID: <21a7.4e2f21c6.3bd3db96@aol.com> It's simply got a Weber downdraught carb on it. If he spend as much money as he says he did you'd have thought he'd have fitted a bigger carb. Don't see any front indicators. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 22/10/2011 03:15:25 GMT Daylight Time, kgb at frontiernet.net writes: That doesn't look like any Spridget engine that I've ever seen. Kate From kmappley at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 04:49:36 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:49:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Zombie Ammo Message-ID: I've got a 8 guage muzzle loading double and a couple pounds of double ought buck! That should do the job as long as they are moving slow to give me time to reload. Guess I've never seen a fast zombie. Could even throw in some scrap silver in case they have vampires with them! Kurt. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Oct 22 06:51:56 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 05:51:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43B83D3536C84560A62AFBC6AB9DCE0E@spider> "We want you to visit our State of Excitement often. Come again and again. But for heaven's sake, don't move here to live. Or if you do have to move in to live, don't tell any of your neighbors where you are going." (1971) Tom McCall, Gov. =============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:07 PM To: Brad Fornal Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. Not only Portland...ALL or Oregon! We're the happiest people in the world. _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Oct 22 08:55:33 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1018485712.458355.1319295278115.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2052571918.458359.1319295333716.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Kate, There's two models of the Judge, My #3 son has both. One takes 3" shells and the other 2.5" shells. It can also use .45LC and I believe you can also use slugs! Kaboom! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 09:11:48 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:11:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <21a7.4e2f21c6.3bd3db96@aol.com> References: <21a7.4e2f21c6.3bd3db96@aol.com> Message-ID: For $15,000 it should have a 16V DOHC head, FI, Turbo. From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Oct 22 09:40:31 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:40:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA2E3EF.1010001@wi.net> Hey Bill! Are you out of the office?? ;-) Ed On 10/21/2011 12:39 PM, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: > Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking > e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your > patience,Bill From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 10:57:03 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:57:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <2052571918.458359.1319295333716.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1018485712.458355.1319295278115.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <2052571918.458359.1319295333716.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: There are more than 2 variations. They have 2.5" chamber, 3" chamber, snub nose, 3" barrel, 9.5" barrel, and a polymer frame model. Rossi sells a "Circuit Judge" which is a rifle revolver in .45/.410. http://www.rossiusa.com/images/imagesMain/SCJ4510SS_012.jpg Taurus and Rossi are both Brazilian and so are almost certainly in cahoots. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 11:06:46 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: And it is not even a Bugeye!!! (I am biased) Steve 59 Bugeye On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html > > "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From robert.duquette at me.com Sat Oct 22 11:19:02 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <605537390.275578.1319061839244.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <76ac28f9-c496-44b5-f9c3-95e830393c37@me.com> But it's no longer PC to be PC. Robert D On Oct 19, 2011, at 06:03 PM, Peter Shull wrote: (I work in an environment that can at time be entirely too PC) _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 12:51:28 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:51:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <2052571918.458359.1319295333716.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1018485712.458355.1319295278115.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <2052571918.458359.1319295333716.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Got a chance to shoot one of these a couple years ago... pretty heft kick if memory serves. needs a good firm grasp. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Kate, > > There's two models of the Judge, My #3 son has both. > One takes 3" shells and the other 2.5" shells. > It can also use .45LC and I believe you can also use slugs! > Kaboom! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Oct 22 12:53:11 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:53:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > For $15,000 it should have a 16V DOHC head, FI, Turbo. And a heater. From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Oct 22 14:32:51 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1246102764.254453.1319315571270.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Wouldn't the Rossi be a little awkward to carry concealed? I'm not really into wearing trench coats. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Dave KK7SS" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:57:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo There are more than 2 variations. They have 2.5" chamber, 3" chamber, snub nose, 3" barrel, 9.5" barrel, and a polymer frame model. Rossi sells a "Circuit Judge" which is a rifle revolver in .45/.410. http://www.rossiusa.com/images/imagesMain/SCJ4510SS_012.jpg Taurus and Rossi are both Brazilian and so are almost certainly in cahoots. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 14:40:38 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:40:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: It says, "let me know what you got". I thought about telling him, "I got a head injury. What do you got?". Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > And it is not even a Bugeye!!! (I am biased) > > Steve > 59 Bugeye > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html > > > > "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > Richland, WA > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > > '65 Sprite - running :) > > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Oct 22 14:54:07 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Of course any model of "The Judge" is illegal here in Kalifornia. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Sat, 10/22/11, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo To: "Dave KK7SS" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Date: Saturday, October 22, 2011, 4:57 PM There are more than 2 variations. They have 2.5" chamber, 3" chamber, snub nose, 3" barrel, 9.5" barrel, and a polymer frame model. Rossi sells a "Circuit Judge" which is a rifle revolver in .45/.410. http://www.rossiusa.com/images/imagesMain/SCJ4510SS_012.jpg Taurus and Rossi are both Brazilian and so are almost certainly in cahoots. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Oct 22 15:33:33 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319319213.86296.YahooMailClassic@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> And if you want to buy U.S. made and since I'm in Massachusetts, check out the S&W "Governor" .45/.410 revolver. Last time I took a tour of S&W in Springfield, MA, one worker had a picture of President Obama over his workstation. Under the picture was written "Salesman of the Year". Seems like gun sales spiked right after the election. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 10/22/11, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo To: "Dave KK7SS" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Date: Saturday, October 22, 2011, 12:57 PM There are more than 2 variations. They have 2.5" chamber, 3" chamber, snub nose, 3" barrel, 9.5" barrel, and a polymer frame model. Rossi sells a "Circuit Judge" which is a rifle revolver in .45/.410. http://www.rossiusa.com/images/imagesMain/SCJ4510SS_012.jpg Taurus and Rossi are both Brazilian and so are almost certainly in cahoots. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Oct 22 15:33:53 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <671506644.461052.1319319233312.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> So I guess the S&W Governor would also be illegal in Kalifornia?? I like it better than the Judge; pity it's so expensive :( -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Michael MacLean" wrote: > Of course any model of "The Judge" is illegal here in Kalifornia. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 15:51:38 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:51:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is a really nicely written letter from the maker of Barrett firearms to the state of Kalifornia. It seems as though the state owned and used his products but they felt that the public should not be entitled to own such things. Mr. Barrett told them that his business could not survive without both government and civilian sales of his products. His products are very effective on the battlefield. Letter here: http://nramemberscouncils.com/caspecial/la50banbarrett.shtml He mentions that as of that time zero crimes have been committed with his products. Since, though, I think a Mexican law enforcement officer has been murdered with a 50 cal rifle, but I don't know if it was a Barrett rifle or one of the many others available. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Oct 22 16:13:00 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <825359409.461248.1319321307766.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1383190862.461275.1319321580088.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Having been conned by buying a "fully restored" Sprite (which is still being worked on in my garage) I think I'm correct saying the following.. No way it can be "fully restored"... Weber downdraft carb, no bumpers or bumperettes, wrong color motor, wrong steering wheel(?), no emblem on hood or trunk, rusty generator. Did I miss something? >From a beginner that's learning the hard way :) -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Billy Zoom" wrote: > And a heater. From edwd at ti.com Sat Oct 22 16:22:12 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:22:12 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooler without a plug Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A0F955134@DLEE01.ent.ti.com> Chuck: If your old cooler is a Coleman, regardless of age, they will send you a new drain plug, gratis. I love customer service like that and consequently I buy no other brands of coolers, ever. It doesn't take much to make me happy. :) Ed Dallas, Tx From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Oct 22 17:08:48 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:08:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Common sense is a rare commodity when dealing with the knee-jerk reactions of Kalifornia politicians. They usually respond to any firearm legislation with a "chicken little" the sky is falling response. It comes of having a state controlled by only one party, the wrong party. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2011, at 14:51, derf wrote: > There is a really nicely written letter from the maker of Barrett firearms to the state of Kalifornia. It seems as though the state owned and used his products but they felt that the public should not be entitled to own such things. Mr. Barrett told them that his business could not survive without both government and civilian sales of his products. His products are very effective on the battlefield. > > Letter here: > http://nramemberscouncils.com/caspecial/la50banbarrett.shtml > > He mentions that as of that time zero crimes have been committed with his products. Since, though, I think a Mexican law enforcement officer has been murdered with a 50 cal rifle, but I don't know if it was a Barrett rifle or one of the many others available. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 18:05:42 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 19:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: With the right ammo, this one will take down anything you want down and leave it there for good. AND its a delightful weapon for a woman. http://ruger.com/products/sr40c/models.html Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 4:51 PM, derf wrote: > There is a really nicely written letter from the maker of Barrett firearms > to the state of Kalifornia. It seems as though the state owned and used > his > products but they felt that the public should not be entitled to own such > things. Mr. Barrett told them that his business could not survive without > both government and civilian sales of his products. His products are very > effective on the battlefield. > > Letter here: > http://nramemberscouncils.com/caspecial/la50banbarrett.shtml > > He mentions that as of that time zero crimes have been committed with his > products. Since, though, I think a Mexican law enforcement officer has > been > murdered with a 50 cal rifle, but I don't know if it was a Barrett rifle or > one of the many others available. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Oct 22 18:05:59 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:05:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: This may be a Special; two L's in Austin Heally. ...or rhymes with Really? ======================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:41 PM To: Steven Guterman Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. It says, "let me know what you got". I thought about telling him, "I got a head injury. What do you got?". Cheers!! Jim ========================================================= On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > And it is not even a Bugeye!!! (I am biased) > > Steve > 59 Bugeye > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html > > > > "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > Richland, WA > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > > '65 Sprite - running :) > > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 18:32:19 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:32:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:51 PM, derf wrote: There is a really nicely written letter from the maker of Barrett firearms to the state of Kalifornia. It seems as though the state owned and used his products but they felt that the public should not be entitled to own such things. Letter here: http://nramemberscouncils.com/caspecial/la50banbarrett.shtml ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- The Barrett sniper rifle and most of its off-spring are illegal in CA, including new purchases for law enforcement. Agencies who had them prior to the ban can keep and use them but can't buy more... Another unique problem because of the law is that if an agency sends one to the factory in TN, the factory cannot legally ship it back to CA. Some CA agencies have them shipped to a law enforcement agency in NV and send someone to pick them up! American ingenuity is alive and well though... Barrett now makes a .49 caliber that is identical to the .50 except for the ammo size. CA agencies can convert a 50 into a 49 for about $3K. More than one way to skin a cat! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 22 18:49:15 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:49:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <4EA1C051.1040403@dinospider.com> <886950501.245033.1319239558975.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <012001cc911d$96d67d20$c4837760$@net> Brad Fornal wrote: FWIW, you can load 5 .36 lead balls into a 410 shotgun shell. Five? Why so many? When I was a cop during the 1965 Watts Riots, we were issued magnum slug shotgun shells for use in "the great intimidator". You quickly learned to either have a firm stance or a pillow strapped to your butt. (The riots caused $2.734 Billion in damage and "only" 34 dead were actually found.) Buster From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 19:20:46 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:20:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 40s are a little too snappy for me. I prefer a good ole 9mm. I dunno who starter the rumor that a 9mm is not a powerful round but they were mistaken. From heard at datatrontech.net Sat Oct 22 20:00:59 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:00:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Have you ever seen that commercial Message-ID: <8822473080987029595@unknownmsgid> Where the guy is painting the end zone and he spells it chefs instead of chiefs? Well, I thought this was a pretty cool bike until... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sinister-Industries-26-Custom-Bagger-/300611493762?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item45fdd75f82#ht_618wt_1064 Heard From johnsfolly at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 21:37:21 2011 From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (John Deikis) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:37:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "Works Tribute" Midget Message-ID: Just turned to p. 41 of my latest Classic Motorsports magazine and discovered a photo of my vintage race car at the top of John Gunnell's write-up of the Midget 50th at Elkhart Lake! :-))))) JohnD Still Playing with Little Cars www.johnsfolly.webs.com From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 22:24:37 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:24:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: References: <1319316847.73851.YahooMailClassic@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM, derf wrote: 40s are a little too snappy for me. I prefer a good ole 9mm. I dunno who starter the rumor that a 9mm is not a powerful round but they were mistaken. _______________________________________________ The DOJ (federal dept of justice) studied shooting incidents all over the country after many PDs switched to 9mm pistols. Their conclusions, based on actual shoots, were that on average, it took 9 rounds fired to incapacitate the suspect. They did offer the opinion that with 15 plus shots available, many officers were shooting wildly instead of careful, aimed shots. Another point that they made was on the RII (relative incapacitaion index) the 9mm did not perform as well as expected. Over-penetration and lack of expansion were cited as causes for the performance issues. 9mm Luger (or Parabellum) in stock trim is a healthy round that packs a punch if it hits something solid! In short order, the 40 S&W and 10mm came to be. They were seen as an "in between" to the 9mm and .45 caliber. They were never reviled by the public as the .357 magnum and .44 magnum were. Back in the day when the Cincinnati PD went from .38s to .357s, the black community decried it as a move to kill black people! I worked in a small suburban PD and carried a .44 mag without the hassle... I switched to a semi-auto when my kids got big enough to pull the trigger on a wheel gun. My thought was they would not be able to slam a clip in, jack it, push the safety off and pull the trigger to get it to fire in the event that they got their hands on my gun. If you're not going to carry it around, especially concealed, a large bore revolver does fine for home protection. Early on, I kept a .38 snub nose at home for my wife loaded with shotshells. I told her just to point it in the general direction of the bad guy and pull the trigger... The shotshells would do the rest! - Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 02:20:56 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:20:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Zombie Ammo In-Reply-To: <012001cc911d$96d67d20$c4837760$@net> References: <4EA1C051.1040403@dinospider.com> <886950501.245033.1319239558975.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <012001cc911d$96d67d20$c4837760$@net> Message-ID: Why, because you CAN!!! LOL On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Robert Evans wrote: > Brad Fornal wrote: FWIW, you can load 5 .36 lead balls into a 410 shotgun > shell. > > Five? Why so many? When I was a cop during the 1965 Watts Riots, we were > issued magnum slug shotgun shells for use in "the great intimidator". You > quickly learned to either have a firm stance or a pillow strapped to your > butt. (The riots caused $2.734 Billion in damage and "only" 34 dead were > actually found.) > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 10:36:02 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:36:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: References: <491587710.452709.1319230261935.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I agree to all reply's but I like how the early square body Spridget's look without bumpers : ) Dream on with that price ; ) Lin On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:05 PM, wrote: > This may be a Special; two L's in Austin Heally. > > ...or rhymes with Really? > ======================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:41 PM > To: Steven Guterman > Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. > > It says, "let me know what you got". I thought about telling him, "I got > a > head injury. What do you got?". > > Cheers!! > Jim > ========================================================= > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Steven Guterman > wrote: > > > And it is not even a Bugeye!!! (I am biased) > > > > Steve > > 59 Bugeye > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2656547175.html > > > > > > "$70,000 in receipts with about $15,000 in just the motor alone" ??? > > > > > > -- > > > Dave G KK7SS > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > > > '65 Sprite - running :) > > > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Sprite-Midget Club USA > High Plains Youth Hockey > Dodge City Trail of Fame > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology > Yup. I stay plenty busy!! > bmwwxman at gmail.com > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 10:39:13 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:39:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] early seat frames on ebay Message-ID: List, I don't need these but for those who do. So far the bidding is still low for these early Spridget seat frames that are in outstanding condition. *http://tinyurl.com/4498vsr Lin * From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 11:05:42 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:05:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow good save. Message-ID: List, I was driving on the BQE (Brooklyn Queens Expressway) Saturday and they are still doing construction (for the last 8 years of my weekly driving) and a long stretch of road was really bad. By the time I got off the road to my exit my front end had a bad rattle. It continued to worsen and I actually pulled off the road to check for a flat tire (all 4 new tires). No flat but still really bad rattle and I wasn't sure I'd get to my partners apartment without a breakdown. I got to my destination only to find a loose plastic guard thinking problem found. Today on my way back to NJ it seemed to get worse. At the last minute I pulled over before getting back on the BQE and decided I'd check the ball joint bolts to see if they were loose and thank God I did. All the nuts were loose to the wheel. I removed all 4 nuts (I bought new lug nut replacements when I got the new pre-loved mag style wheels last month but no time to install yet) and inspected the threads which were fine and installed the wheel back on the car. Replacing the lugnut's today the drive home was quiet and I was grateful. Lin From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 23 13:04:00 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] early seat frames on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1992238074.467559.1319396640119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Actually, I'd call it 1 and 2/3 seat frames... one of the pans is unusable! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Linda Grunthaner" wrote: > I don't need these but for those who do. > > So far the bidding is still low for these early Spridget seat frames > that are in outstanding condition. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 23 13:06:55 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1884837299.467579.1319396815574.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> So do me and my boys... My Sprite has bumperettes mounted direct to the bumper mounts - fore and aft. Keeps the local constabulary happy :) -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Linda Grunthaner" wrote: > I agree to all reply's but I like how the early square body Spridget's > look without bumpers : ) From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Oct 23 13:28:25 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] early seat frames on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319398105.23937.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> No offense, Lin, but those seat pans look like they've been "out standing" in a field. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 10/23/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] early seat frames on ebay To: "Spridget list" Date: Sunday, October 23, 2011, 12:39 PM List, I don't need these but for those who do. So far the bidding is still low for these early Spridget seat frames that are in outstanding condition. *http://tinyurl.com/4498vsr Lin * Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From clarici at verizon.net Sun Oct 23 14:59:46 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:59:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow good save. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C7A26A3-E830-4033-A24D-F39080CA7B1F@verizon.net> Whew. That was close glad you did not have any mishaps Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I was driving on the BQE (Brooklyn Queens Expressway) Saturday and they are > still doing construction (for the last 8 years of my weekly driving) and a > long stretch of road was really bad. By the time I got off the road to my > exit my front end had a bad rattle. It continued to worsen and I actually > pulled off the road to check for a flat tire (all 4 new tires). No flat but > still really bad rattle and I wasn't sure I'd get to my partners apartment > without a breakdown. I got to my destination only to find a loose plastic > guard thinking problem found. Today on my way back to NJ it seemed to get > worse. At the last minute I pulled over before getting back on the BQE and > decided I'd check the ball joint bolts to see if they were loose and thank > God I did. All the nuts were loose to the wheel. I removed all 4 nuts (I > bought new lug nut replacements when I got the new pre-loved mag style > wheels last month but no time to install yet) and inspected the threads > which were fine and installed the wheel back on the car. > > Replacing the lugnut's today the drive home was quiet and I was grateful. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 23 15:58:58 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:58:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] "Works Tribute" Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48E647E45FD44032868C0B9E23213F6D@spider> What a neat surprise. Congrats. ...bill in corvallis ========================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Deikis Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:37 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] "Works Tribute" Midget Just turned to p. 41 of my latest Classic Motorsports magazine and discovered a photo of my vintage race car at the top of John Gunnell's write-up of the Midget 50th at Elkhart Lake! :-))))) JohnD Still Playing with Little Cars www.johnsfolly.webs.com _______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 16:03:37 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:03:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow good save. In-Reply-To: <8C7A26A3-E830-4033-A24D-F39080CA7B1F@verizon.net> References: <8C7A26A3-E830-4033-A24D-F39080CA7B1F@verizon.net> Message-ID: Thanks Frankie, yea it would have been disastrous to say the least. Glad it got louder before the BQE ; ) Lin On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote: > Whew. That was close glad you did not have any mishaps > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 23, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > > > List, > > I was driving on the BQE (Brooklyn Queens Expressway) Saturday and they > are > > still doing construction (for the last 8 years of my weekly driving) and > a > > long stretch of road was really bad. By the time I got off the road to my > > exit my front end had a bad rattle. It continued to worsen and I actually > > pulled off the road to check for a flat tire (all 4 new tires). No flat > but > > still really bad rattle and I wasn't sure I'd get to my partners > apartment > > without a breakdown. I got to my destination only to find a loose plastic > > guard thinking problem found. Today on my way back to NJ it seemed to get > > worse. At the last minute I pulled over before getting back on the BQE > and > > decided I'd check the ball joint bolts to see if they were loose and > thank > > God I did. All the nuts were loose to the wheel. I removed all 4 nuts (I > > bought new lug nut replacements when I got the new pre-loved mag style > > wheels last month but no time to install yet) and inspected the threads > > which were fine and installed the wheel back on the car. > > > > Replacing the lugnut's today the drive home was quiet and I was grateful. > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 16:05:32 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:05:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] early seat frames on ebay In-Reply-To: <1319398105.23937.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319398105.23937.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Upon closer look one pan is not that great but if someone gets them for under $100. I think it is a good deal. Lin On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:28 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > No offense, Lin, but those seat pans look like they've been "out standing" > in a field. > > Rick > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On *Sun, 10/23/11, Linda Grunthaner * wrote: > > > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: [Spridgets] early seat frames on ebay > To: "Spridget list" > Date: Sunday, October 23, 2011, 12:39 PM > > List, > I don't need these but for those who do. > So far the bidding is still low for these early Spridget seat frames that > are in outstanding condition. > *http://tinyurl.com/4498vsr > > Lin > * > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From lists at woozy.com Sun Oct 23 16:18:10 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:18:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: References: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> Message-ID: <4EA492A2.2070002@woozy.com> Thanks Bill and everyone else who offered suggestions. I didn't get a chance to work on the car again until this weekend and I had to fit that in around my son's hockey games, so I'm a little late getting back to every one on this. The car is running a little better now but I still have a problem with it. I got the carbs balanced and it appears the mixture is either very close or right judging from the color of the spark plug tips. I replaced all the the rubber gas line, gas filter and clamps, there are no leaks. When driving the car it pulls strong in first and second gear through 5500 rpm but when I shift into third it starts to sputter around 2500 - 3000 rpm. Pressing on the gas makes it worse. It seems to clear up if I let off the gas for a bit. Once I let off the gas for 10 or so seconds I can give it gas and it will run smoothly up to 5500. It does this consistently. This is a strange problem that I haven't run into before. The distributor is new and I have a Crane XR700 fireball ignition. The fuel pump is a new aftermarket fuel pump which I bought from NAPA (Airtex E8016S). NAPA has this listed as the correct replacement pump. Advance Auto lists the Airtex E8128 which pumps at 4 - 6 psi vs. 2.5 - 4.5 psi for the one I have. Has anyone else run into this problem before? Any ideas on how to fix this will be appreciated. Thanks, Robert On 10/15/2011 4:36 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > Distributor advance isn't right; maybe an air leak below 1000rpm? > > Balancing SU carbs...billie bob method: Once you rule out air leaks . . . > 1. warm up engine > 2. Screw up mixture nuts all the way and then down 2 turns. > up = leaner, down = richer. (this is the nut at the bottom of the From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 16:25:46 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:25:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Very productive vintage car afternoon : ) Message-ID: List, I'm in a big hurry trying to get my vintage cars road worthy for the fall so I can use the garage in the winter this year. I thought I'd have Pinky's passengers seat installed today because I finally found the bolts I bought for the seat rails which were oddly metric, but after I screwed them into the floor I realized there is something missing I must have misplaced the rails that sandwitch between the seat bottom and the floor rail so I moved onto the bus (VW Split window camper). But I still felt good about finding the bolts and screwed the rails in ; ) Off to the bus I got her running a week or 2 ago but I needed to bleed the brakes before I could drive her out of the garage. I bought a single handed brake bleeder last year and crawled under the bus going from nearest to the master cylinder to farthest. I wasn't very happy with the results so being I do most all my work alone I rigged up a peddle hold-down rod and bleed the brakes the old fashioned way with a jar of brake fluid and hose. Oddly the old fassioned way worked better than that $30. single handed bleeder kit. What a POS I should have never bought it. But very glad I have brake pressure. Still not enough time to get her out of the garage today as I'm sure there will be other snags in the way I'm patient for next weekend as I'll drive her out after 2 years and get the glass in. I'm thinking of some methods of single handed methods for that to ; ) Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 16:26:53 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:26:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <4EA2E3EF.1010001@wi.net> References: <4EA2E3EF.1010001@wi.net> Message-ID: You're funny : ) lin On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Woerpel wrote: > Hey Bill! Are you out of the office?? ;-) > > Ed > > > On 10/21/2011 12:39 PM, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: > >> Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking >> e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your >> patience,Bill >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/grunthaner@**gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 16:33:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:33:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] sprite craigslist on Portland. In-Reply-To: <1884837299.467579.1319396815574.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1884837299.467579.1319396815574.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Cool Dave, I think the square body Spridget has a great look and it is a shame they hide it when they added the bumpers. But I suppose they had some safety regulations to meet. Once I get more work done on my VW bus and get Pinky back into the garage I'm going to remove both bumpers on Pinky I'll probably start my search for NOS front and rear bumperetts but I think the front looks better bare ; ) Are you posting your photos on Spritespot? Lin On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > So do me and my boys... > My Sprite has bumperettes mounted direct to the bumper mounts - fore and > aft. > Keeps the local constabulary happy :) > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- "Linda Grunthaner" wrote: > > > I agree to all reply's but I like how the early square body Spridget's > > look without bumpers : ) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 23 16:43:18 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wow good save. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1319409798.70944.YahooMailNeo@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Linda - You haven't pissed anybody off recently, have you? - David From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 23 16:51:28 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Have you ever seen that commercial In-Reply-To: <8822473080987029595@unknownmsgid> References: <8822473080987029595@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <1319410288.97801.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Heard Saxon: I thought this was a pretty cool bike until... Hilarious. So I'm assuming that Sinister sends out for paint... at least it's in paint and not a tatoo... - David From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 17:12:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:12:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow good save. In-Reply-To: <1319409798.70944.YahooMailNeo@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1319409798.70944.YahooMailNeo@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hahaha, NYC : ) On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:43 PM, David Booker wrote: > Linda - You haven't pissed anybody off recently, have you? > - David From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 17:34:49 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:34:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Motor Mount Brackets In-Reply-To: <668BD2B9-EC03-4EFC-A8D5-5F2740F7D4F7@me.com> References: <668BD2B9-EC03-4EFC-A8D5-5F2740F7D4F7@me.com> Message-ID: Robert I love this statement: "Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them." Lin On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Not touching that one! > > Robert > Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. > > On 2011-10-20, at 3:16 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller > wrote: > > > I have a pair but I will need a few days to locate them. > > > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 04:09:57 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:09:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Very productive vintage car afternoon : ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: After receiving a reply that I was supposed to bleed from the farthest back to the master I reread the manual that came with my single handed bleeder kit. It says bleed from the closest wheel to the master to the farthest. Why would they get it backwards? Maybe I should email them? Lin On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I'm in a big hurry trying to get my vintage cars road worthy for the fall > so I can use the garage in the winter this year. I thought I'd have Pinky's > passengers seat installed today because I finally found the bolts I bought > for the seat rails which were oddly metric, but after I screwed them into > the floor I realized there is something missing I must have misplaced the > rails that sandwitch between the seat bottom and the floor rail so I moved > onto the bus (VW Split window camper). But I still felt good about finding > the bolts and screwed the rails in ; ) > > Off to the bus I got her running a week or 2 ago but I needed to bleed the > brakes before I could drive her out of the garage. I bought a single handed > brake bleeder last year and crawled under the bus going from nearest to the > master cylinder to farthest. I wasn't very happy with the results so being I > do most all my work alone I rigged up a peddle hold-down rod and bleed the > brakes the old fashioned way with a jar of brake fluid and hose. Oddly the > old fassioned way worked better than that $30. single handed bleeder kit. > What a POS I should have never bought it. But very glad I have brake > pressure. Still not enough time to get her out of the garage today as I'm > sure there will be other snags in the way I'm patient for next weekend as > I'll drive her out after 2 years and get the glass in. I'm thinking of some > methods of single handed methods for that to ; ) > > Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 04:24:56 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:24:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite Message-ID: List, Before I remove the drivers seat to get my answer do my seats have another rail sandwitched between the floor rail to the seat? I checked 3 books I have and they don't have the answer. I may have misplaced the rails when I removed the passengers seat. Lin From cantrall at wrcresearch.com Mon Oct 24 06:04:01 2011 From: cantrall at wrcresearch.com (cantrall at wrcresearch.com) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:04:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Message-ID: Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your patience,Bill From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 24 08:16:36 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 07:04 AM 10/24/2011, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: >Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking >e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your >patience,Bill >_______________________________________________ I am IN the office, not travelling, and my patience is wearing thin. Thought everyone would like to know, Peter From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 08:50:35 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:50:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC......itunes for 64 bit xp computers Message-ID: After lots of frustration I found this link to install itunes on a 64 bit XP operating PC as Apple does not have a version for 64 bit running xp. Seems like a lot of work but my school still has not changed my systems to System 7. I am not in a hurry to install & learn a new system but if I have to to get itunes to work I will. These links have instructions that seems like a lot of work. Anyone ever try it? Links with methods: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080208120540AAg1p0R http://sites.google.com/site/yukichigai/iphonex64 From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Oct 24 08:53:00 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:53:00 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough Message-ID: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> Robert- check the condensor, or what passes for it on the Fireball. I had a similar fault on the BE when we got back from Elkhart Lake, sometimes it would run great, others, nothing but stumbling and spitting. It was a bad condensor that we'd overheated at the autocross apparently. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Thanks Bill and everyone else who offered suggestions. I didn't get a chance to work on the car again until this weekend and I had to fit that in around my son's hockey games, so I'm a little late getting back to every one on this. The car is running a little better now but I still have a problem with it. I got the carbs balanced and it appears the mixture is either very close or right judging from the color of the spark plug tips. I replaced all the the rubber gas line, gas filter and clamps, there are no leaks. When driving the car it pulls strong in first and second gear through 5500 rpm but when I shift into third it starts to sputter around 2500 - 3000 rpm. Pressing on the gas makes it worse. It seems to clear up if I let off the gas for a bit. Once I let off the gas for 10 or so seconds I can give it gas and it will run smoothly up to 5500. It does this consistently. This is a strange problem that I haven't run into before. The distributor is new and I have a Crane XR700 fireball ignition. The fuel pump is a new aftermarket fuel pump which I bought from NAPA (Airtex E8016S). NAPA has this listed as the correct replacement pump. Advance Auto lists the Airtex E8128 which pumps at 4 - 6 psi vs. 2.5 - 4.5 psi for the one I have. Has anyone else run into this problem before? Any ideas on how to fix this will be appreciated. Thanks, Robert ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.netzero.net/freeemail?refcd=NZTAGOUT1FREM0210 From lists at dinospider.com Mon Oct 24 09:22:02 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:22:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Have you ever seen that commercial In-Reply-To: <8822473080987029595@unknownmsgid> References: <8822473080987029595@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4EA5829A.5090306@dinospider.com> I had to look quite a bit to find the typo in the paint...what a pain that was. I would be embarrassed to have that on the road within a 100 miles of my bike. What is its top speed in the corners ? 3MPH before it scrapes all that garbage ? Being nice and not saying anything bad about the bike since apparently some people on the list like it...but someone needs to buy one of those Judges being talked about on this list and put this ex-bike out of its misery. mike On 10/22/2011 07:00 PM, Heard Saxon wrote: > Where the guy is painting the end zone and he spells it chefs instead > of chiefs? Well, I thought this was a pretty cool bike until... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sinister-Industries-26-Custom-Bagger-/300611493762?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item45fdd75f82#ht_618wt_1064 > > Heard From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 09:47:05 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:47:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the constant updates!! Brad On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:04 AM, wrote: > Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking > e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your > patience,Bill > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 10:24:34 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:24:34 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Very productive vintage car afternoon : ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will hazard a guess. When you use pressure either extra helper or power pressure on the master furthest is correct. However when you use suction closest is likely correct so you do not induce air on the long run from the short run. My 2 cent guess. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:09:57 To: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Very productive vintage car afternoon : ) After receiving a reply that I was supposed to bleed from the farthest back to the master I reread the manual that came with my single handed bleeder kit. It says bleed from the closest wheel to the master to the farthest. Why would they get it backwards? Maybe I should email them? Lin On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I'm in a big hurry trying to get my vintage cars road worthy for the fall > so I can use the garage in the winter this year. I thought I'd have Pinky's > passengers seat installed today because I finally found the bolts I bought > for the seat rails which were oddly metric, but after I screwed them into > the floor I realized there is something missing I must have misplaced the > rails that sandwitch between the seat bottom and the floor rail so I moved > onto the bus (VW Split window camper). But I still felt good about finding > the bolts and screwed the rails in ; ) > > Off to the bus I got her running a week or 2 ago but I needed to bleed the > brakes before I could drive her out of the garage. I bought a single handed > brake bleeder last year and crawled under the bus going from nearest to the > master cylinder to farthest. I wasn't very happy with the results so being I > do most all my work alone I rigged up a peddle hold-down rod and bleed the > brakes the old fashioned way with a jar of brake fluid and hose. Oddly the > old fassioned way worked better than that $30. single handed bleeder kit. > What a POS I should have never bought it. But very glad I have brake > pressure. Still not enough time to get her out of the garage today as I'm > sure there will be other snags in the way I'm patient for next weekend as > I'll drive her out after 2 years and get the glass in. I'm thinking of some > methods of single handed methods for that to ; ) > > Lin _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From cantrall at wrcresearch.com Mon Oct 24 10:32:42 2011 From: cantrall at wrcresearch.com (William Cantrall) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001401cc926a$90c0b9c0$b2422d40$@wrcresearch.com> Wonbt happen again. Sorry. From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:47 AM To: cantrall at wrcresearch.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Thank you for the constant updates!! Brad On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:04 AM, wrote: Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your patience,Bill Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 10:39:36 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:39:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Unfair!! Those of us who are too poor to even have an office are planning a protest sit-in at both of yours unless you start sharing! Signed: United Federation of Spridget Owners On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 07:04 AM 10/24/2011, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: > >> Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking >> e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your >> patience,Bill >> ______________________________**_________________ >> > > > > I am IN the office, not travelling, and my patience is wearing thin. > > Thought everyone would like to know, > > Peter From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 10:53:51 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:53:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: Before I remove the drivers seat to get my answer do my seats have another rail sandwitched between the floor rail to the seat? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are 4 rails for each seat. Two mount to the seat frame and two mount to the floor. The two that mount to the floor have studs in one end. If the studs are missing, it is usually because they broke while being removed and you can drill them out. Just replace with a bolt. IIRC, the stud goes to the rear of the seat. Look closely at the seat rails that are on your driver's side for the correct orientation!!! If you try to install facing the wrong side, they won't line up... Bolt the slide rail to the seat frame, slide the mounting rail into place, and carefully lower the whole assembly into place and bolt up! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 11:09:26 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:09:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I received a message saying that being the passengers seat doesn't adjust I should have 1 rail each side with the board under (I have that wooden board) the outside strip for the passengers seat. Which could be the reason why I can't find the other 2 rails. Lin On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:53 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > Before I remove the drivers seat to get my answer do my seats have > another rail sandwitched between the floor rail to the seat? > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > There are 4 rails for each seat. Two mount to the seat frame and two > mount to the floor. The two that mount to the floor have studs in one > end. If the studs are missing, it is usually because they broke while > being removed and you can drill them out. Just replace with a bolt. > IIRC, the stud goes to the rear of the seat. > > Look closely at the seat rails that are on your driver's side for the > correct orientation!!! If you try to install facing the wrong side, > they won't line up... Bolt the slide rail to the seat frame, slide the > mounting rail into place, and carefully lower the whole assembly into > place and bolt up! > > > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From d.swanson at earthlink.net Mon Oct 24 11:09:50 2011 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:09:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <562837800BD44209A5379B9E1FCA4171@HomeComputer> Mine had a wood strip - see item #12 http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29363 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:25 AM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite List, Before I remove the drivers seat to get my answer do my seats have another rail sandwitched between the floor rail to the seat? I checked 3 books I have and they don't have the answer. I may have misplaced the rails when I removed the passengers seat. Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/d.swanson at earthlink.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 11:49:26 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:49:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Message-ID: Peter, It is shocking you patients is wearing thin. I thought there was more spring in your life. Please make sure you don't blow a gasket!!! Steve ------Original Message------ From: Peter Caldwell Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Sent: Oct 24, 2011 10:16 AM At 07:04 AM 10/24/2011, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: >Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking >e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your >patience,Bill >_______________________________________________ I am IN the office, not travelling, and my patience is wearing thin. Thought everyone would like to know, Peter _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 12:17:43 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:17:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Very productive vintage car afternoon : ) In-Reply-To: <1288074281-1319473475-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1411769892-@b28.c12.bise6.blackberry> References: <1288074281-1319473475-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1411769892-@b28.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: I received this answer (see below) to the which way to bleed my 67 VW bus. First, the 1967 year VW bus came with a lot of one year only stuff like 12 volts and offset drivers mirror to mention a few but it also had a dual circuit master cylinder. To replace a dual master cylinder it will cost $300. without a plastic reservoir (additional money). The PO replaced mine with a single but they tell me on the VW forums the dual is better actually if you ask me the Bay Window bus with disc brakes are better. See the answer below for the bleeding as single and dual are different. "On single circuit go from the rear to the front. (farthest to closest)" "On dual circuit do front, then back. (farthest on front, then closest on front, then farthest on back, then closest on back)" The VW bus is like learning a different language. Lin On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:24 PM, wrote: > I will hazard a guess. When you use pressure either extra helper or power > pressure on the master furthest is correct. > > However when you use suction closest is likely correct so you do not induce > air on the long run from the short run. > > My 2 cent guess. > > Steve > Sent from me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Grunthaner > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:09:57 > To: Spridget list > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Very productive vintage car afternoon : ) > > After receiving a reply that I was supposed to bleed from the farthest back > to the master I reread the manual that came with my single handed bleeder > kit. It says bleed from the closest wheel to the master to the farthest. > Why > would they get it backwards? Maybe I should email them? > Lin > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Linda Grunthaner >wrote: > > > List, > > I'm in a big hurry trying to get my vintage cars road worthy for the fall > > so I can use the garage in the winter this year. I thought I'd have > Pinky's > > passengers seat installed today because I finally found the bolts I > bought > > for the seat rails which were oddly metric, but after I screwed them into > > the floor I realized there is something missing I must have misplaced the > > rails that sandwitch between the seat bottom and the floor rail so I > moved > > onto the bus (VW Split window camper). But I still felt good about > finding > > the bolts and screwed the rails in ; ) > > > > Off to the bus I got her running a week or 2 ago but I needed to bleed > the > > brakes before I could drive her out of the garage. I bought a single > handed > > brake bleeder last year and crawled under the bus going from nearest to > the > > master cylinder to farthest. I wasn't very happy with the results so > being I > > do most all my work alone I rigged up a peddle hold-down rod and bleed > the > > brakes the old fashioned way with a jar of brake fluid and hose. Oddly > the > > old fassioned way worked better than that $30. single handed bleeder kit. > > What a POS I should have never bought it. But very glad I have brake > > pressure. Still not enough time to get her out of the garage today as I'm > > sure there will be other snags in the way I'm patient for next weekend as > > I'll drive her out after 2 years and get the glass in. I'm thinking of > some > > methods of single handed methods for that to ; ) > > > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 24 12:19:45 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (HomeHandy) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:19:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: <4EA492A2.2070002@woozy.com> References: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> <4EA492A2.2070002@woozy.com> Message-ID: <273A3E7F57684E908E33D4BC3876EF7B@Snoopy> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Weeks Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough but when I shift into third it starts to sputter around 2500 - <3000 rpm. Pressing on the gas makes it worse. It seems to clear up if I References: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> <4EA492A2.2070002@woozy.com> Message-ID: <1319482822.26351.YahooMailNeo@web125711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Did you center the jets on the carbs before beginning? ________________________________ From: Robert Weeks To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough Thanks Bill and everyone else who offered suggestions. I didn't get a chance to work on the car again until this weekend and I had to fit that in around my son's hockey games, so I'm a little late getting back to every one on this. The car is running a little better now but I still have a problem with it. I got the carbs balanced and it appears the mixture is either very close or right judging from the color of the spark plug tips. I replaced all the the rubber gas line, gas filter and clamps, there are no leaks. When driving the car it pulls strong in first and second gear through 5500 rpm but when I shift into third it starts to sputter around 2500 - 3000 rpm. Pressing on the gas makes it worse. It seems to clear up if I let off the gas for a bit. Once I let off the gas for 10 or so seconds I can give it gas and it will run smoothly up to 5500. It does this consistently. This is a strange problem that I haven't run into before. The distributor is new and I have a Crane XR700 fireball ignition. The fuel pump is a new aftermarket fuel pump which I bought from NAPA (Airtex E8016S). NAPA has this listed as the correct replacement pump. Advance Auto lists the Airtex E8128 which pumps at 4 - 6 psi vs. 2.5 - 4.5 psi for the one I have. Has anyone else run into this problem before? Any ideas on how to fix this will be appreciated. Thanks, Robert On 10/15/2011 4:36 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > Distributor advance isn't right; maybe an air leak below 1000rpm? > > Balancing SU carbs...billie bob method: Once you rule out air leaks . . . > 1. warm up engine > 2. Screw up mixture nuts all the way and then down 2 turns. > up = leaner, down = richer. (this is the nut at the bottom of the _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/doug_altman at yahoo.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 13:02:01 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:02:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting method to adjust v belt on VW ...see this youtube. Message-ID: I feel like I am studying a different language with this VW engine. I like it but it is different. I found this youtube to help me adjust the v-belt as I didn't see anything like our LBC's or American cars using the typical large screwdriver to add tension they use shims. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1GXdqI6Z5Y&feature=related Lin From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Oct 24 13:37:03 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:37:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I'll bet they have secretaries and coffee too! At 12:39 PM 10/24/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >Unfair!! Those of us who are too poor to even have an office are planning a >protest sit-in at both of yours unless you start sharing! > >Signed: >United Federation of Spridget Owners Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Oct 24 13:46:33 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <1750482017.480603.1319485172175.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <160861145.480710.1319485593690.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Spring is gone... it's Autumn now... ! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "an5 sprite" wrote: > It is shocking you patients is wearing thin. I thought there was more > spring in your life. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Oct 24 14:54:50 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <20111024193647.DC7EA1878CA@autox.team.net> References: <20111024193647.DC7EA1878CA@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <6E418787-472F-4E53-92B4-2164F92D887D@comcast.net> My patients aren't wearing thin, it's gotten cold -ish .. ok mild for those of you in Wisconsin.. but they are wearing sweaters.. NOT thin. And those of us who have office and are forced to work to pay taxes so that those sit-on folks can not work are able to sit like bumps on a log... Lester Signed: United Federation of Spridget Owners On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:49 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > Peter, > > It is shocking you patients is wearing thin. I thought there was more spring in your life. Please make sure you don't blow a gasket!!! > > Steve > ------Original Message------ > From: Peter Caldwell > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office > Sent: Oct 24, 2011 10:16 AM > > At 07:04 AM 10/24/2011, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: >> Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking >> e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your >> patience,Bill >> _______________________________________________ > > > > I am IN the office, not travelling, and my patience is wearing thin. > > Thought everyone would like to know, > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > > > Sent from me. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 15:15:02 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:15:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 45k Buy it Now Harley on eBay Message-ID: I am reading all about the things that were done to this bagger which started off as a 1999 model and could not find anything about how the rear cam bearings were addressed? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sinister-Industries-26-Custom-Bagger-/300611493762?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item45fdd75f82#ht_618wt_1064 Kirk From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Oct 24 15:51:11 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:51:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <3103A3F046CB462A95C29B9ABC0D1FDA@spider> Oc you py occupy occupy ========================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:37 PM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office I'll bet they have secretaries and coffee too! At 12:39 PM 10/24/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >Unfair!! Those of us who are too poor to even have an office are planning a >protest sit-in at both of yours unless you start sharing! > >Signed: >United Federation of Spridget Owners Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ _______________________________________________ From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Oct 24 15:52:24 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: <273A3E7F57684E908E33D4BC3876EF7B@Snoopy> Message-ID: <1319493144.80096.YahooMailClassic@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> How does it run uphill? If it does the same type of sputtering than fuel starvation is a sure thing. You may want to change the fuel filter. It might not look like it is clogged (if it is "see through"), but it can be and it is a cheap try at fixing it. I use small plastic VW fuel filters in. They are cheap and easily replaced. (for example: Ebay Item No. 190541777101) Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Mon, 10/24/11, HomeHandy wrote: From: HomeHandy Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough To: "Robert Weeks" , corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 6:19 PM -----Original Message----- From: Robert Weeks Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough but when I shift into third it starts to sputter around 2500 - <3000 rpm. Pressing on the gas makes it worse. It seems to clear up if I References: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <201110241452598.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Coffee yes.... secretaries, niet! At 02:37 PM 10/24/2011, Tim Collins wrote: >I'll bet they have secretaries and coffee too! > >At 12:39 PM 10/24/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >>Unfair!! Those of us who are too poor to even have an office are planning a >>protest sit-in at both of yours unless you start sharing! >> >>Signed: >>United Federation of Spridget Owners > >Tim Collins >http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2090/4571 - Release Date: 10/24/11 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Oct 24 15:54:27 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:54:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Before I remove the drivers seat to get my answer do my seats have another > rail sandwitched between the floor rail to the seat? I think only the driver's seat was adjustable. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 16:30:35 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:30:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol My Sitting Sprite Message-ID: I finally started my 1275 '59 after allowing it to sit for far to long in the garage. The 1275 ran slightly rough enough to cause some concern that I had neglected it to the point that ethanol had done something to the carb or the fuel lines. I started it up today and it is running much smoother. A mechanic friend told me that the ethanol would not be able to harm my side draft carb . . didn't make a heck of a lot of sense to me . . but is there some truth to this? I would love to hear "yes" but of course I think I know the answer. Any comments? Kirk PS I have successfully used (for the past 6 years) an OER side draft that takes the jets and emulsion tubes for a Weber DCOE 45 . . The OER has an additional adjustment for the accel pump and the float bowl. Basically a Japanese take on a Weber.. very well built with the additional features. From lists at dinospider.com Mon Oct 24 17:14:16 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:14:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 45k Buy it Now Harley on eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA5F148.90100@dinospider.com> same way they spelled Industries on the right rear :) I suppose its accurate marketing, the only thing this bike is good for is collecting dust, but its a fancy bike so its fancy dusties as in all other bikes will leave it "Industies" On 10/24/2011 02:15 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I am reading all about the things that were done to this bagger which > started off as a 1999 model and could not find anything about how the rear > cam bearings were addressed? > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sinister-Industries-26-Custom-Bagger-/300611493762?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item45fdd75f82#ht_618wt_1064 > > > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 17:26:43 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:26:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <6E418787-472F-4E53-92B4-2164F92D887D@comcast.net> References: <20111024193647.DC7EA1878CA@autox.team.net> <6E418787-472F-4E53-92B4-2164F92D887D@comcast.net> Message-ID: Those "sit in" guys are being paid $600 a week do be there. I wonder how long it will be, before they are paid to be violent, so that martial law will guarantee a second term. It's not paranoid, if there is a reasonable chance that it will happen. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Lester wrote: > My patients aren't wearing thin, it's gotten cold -ish .. ok mild for those > of > you in Wisconsin.. but they are wearing sweaters.. NOT thin. > > And those of us who have office and are forced to work to pay taxes so that > those sit-on folks can not work are able to sit like bumps on a log... > > > Lester > > Signed: > United Federation of Spridget Owners > On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:49 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > > > Peter, > > > > It is shocking you patients is wearing thin. I thought there was more > spring > in your life. Please make sure you don't blow a gasket!!! > > > > Steve > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Peter Caldwell > > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > > To: spridgets > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office > > Sent: Oct 24, 2011 10:16 AM > > > > At 07:04 AM 10/24/2011, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: > >> Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be checking > >> e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your > >> patience,Bill > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > I am IN the office, not travelling, and my patience is wearing thin. > > > > Thought everyone would like to know, > > > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > > > > > > > Sent from me. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From lbcs at embarqmail.com Mon Oct 24 17:28:40 2011 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller - LBCs) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:28:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Have you ever seen that commercial In-Reply-To: <4EA5829A.5090306@dinospider.com> References: <8822473080987029595@unknownmsgid> <4EA5829A.5090306@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <002e01cc92a4$ab1406d0$013c1470$@embarqmail.com> Well, I thought no way could that get that far and no one notice... So I went to the sinister website. Believe it or not there is another bagger with the same spelling mistake. Hahahahaha -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:22 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Have you ever seen that commercial I had to look quite a bit to find the typo in the paint...what a pain that was. I would be embarrassed to have that on the road within a 100 miles of my bike. What is its top speed in the corners ? 3MPH before it scrapes all that garbage ? Being nice and not saying anything bad about the bike since apparently some people on the list like it...but someone needs to buy one of those Judges being talked about on this list and put this ex-bike out of its misery. mike From lists at woozy.com Mon Oct 24 17:33:20 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:33:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> Thanks Mark, I was able to pick up two replacement needle & seat sets on my way home today. When I pulled the cover off the rear carb I found that the grosse jet was jammed. I didn't have time to do the front one or do much in the way of tuning after that but it has seemed to fix the problem. I'm hoping it gets better after I get a chance to finish up the job. Thanks again, Robert On 10/24/2011 10:53 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Robert- check the condensor, or what passes for it on the Fireball. I had a similar fault on the BE when we got back from Elkhart Lake, sometimes it would run great, others, nothing but stumbling and spitting. It was a bad condensor that we'd overheated at the autocross apparently. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 18:01:17 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! Message-ID: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I've been trying to get the Nasty Boy road legal before it gets too cold to play in my unheated New England garage. In order to legally operate a motor vehicle upon the ways of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, one must obtain a motor vehicle inspection sticker, known hereabouts as "gottagetastickah" (rhymes with "pissah"). I've had a primal fear about inspection stickers since 1967 when every 6 mos I'd try to get my well used bugeye through inspection. There was always something wrong with it and I'd hold my breath that it would pass and give me another six months on the road. So with more than a little trepidation, I brought the Healey in to get checked out. For older cars, it's not a huge deal. Lights, directionals, brake lights, brakes, emergency brake, horn, wipers, kingpins, etc. Car guys know which inspection stations are hot rod friendly and which ones aren't. Fortunately, I've got a local guy who's sympatico with the classic car guys. Passed with more or less flying colors. Once legal, I filled up the tank and did about five miles on it. So far, I'm enthralled. It's really solid. Between the balanced rear brake drums and additional bracing around the doghouse, there's no scuttle shake. It's running about 190 degrees, which makes me a little less concerned about the modified stock radiator and Texas Cooler mechanical fan. But the most exciting thing is this car is ... uhmmm... what's the word? Oh yeah .... FAST! I have to admit I was always a bit disappointed with the performance of the Big Healey. The six is a great sounding motor, but to me it never had the performance to keep up with those handsome lines. 345 hp changes all that. The pipes sound wonderful and it really moves! I know I need pictures and videos, but I've got a bunch of clean-up and detailing to go before he's ready for some beauty shots. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From shop at justbrits.com Mon Oct 24 19:44:53 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:44:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4EA61495.3050505@justbrits.com> << I'll bet they have secretaries and coffee too! >> Nyet ! ! ! That said, I think EVERY Lister should happily send TWELVE (12) eMails to Mr. Cantrall to the effect: "I'm in my 'Office' and I ain't leaving ! ! ! !" and he PLAINLY did NOT "I will be checking e-mail...... " I know I was feel lovingly towards.................... "Thanks for your patience,Bill" I know I got "out of ....." mail on two (2) Lists, so...................................send TWELVE (12) eMails! ! ! Signed: Member, United Federation of Spridget Owners From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Oct 24 20:30:02 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! In-Reply-To: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1E1ACFA85F37420B871A7270D81BE88A@blackbox2> Wouldn't a Factory Five Roadster kit achieve the same effect more directly? No criticism here, as I had often thought of throwing a V-8 into an old British sports car. But I look at all the fabrication issues and other hurdles and I think "Why bother?" Why did you choose to do this as opposed to doing something like a Factory Five kit? From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Oct 24 20:34:47 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:34:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough In-Reply-To: <273A3E7F57684E908E33D4BC3876EF7B@Snoopy> References: <4E99CC87.1070600@woozy.com> <4EA492A2.2070002@woozy.com> <273A3E7F57684E908E33D4BC3876EF7B@Snoopy> Message-ID: <000901cc92be$a9eb1860$fdc14920$@rr.com> What happens if you pull the choke while that happens? Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HomeHandy Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:20 PM To: Robert Weeks; corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough -----Original Message----- From: Robert Weeks Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough but when I shift into third it starts to sputter around 2500 - <3000 rpm. Pressing on the gas makes it worse. It seems to clear up if I References: <20111024193647.DC7EA1878CA@autox.team.net><6E418787-472F-4E53-92B4-2164F92D887D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <661900EBCB544F28A76F04820A9DB4EF@HomePC> Oh, brother. The internet is such a wonderful source of really accurate information. What's really amazing is that some people actually believe this sh_t. Here's your sign. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:26 PM To: Lester Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office Those "sit in" guys are being paid $600 a week do be there. I wonder how long it will be, before they are paid to be violent, so that martial law will guarantee a second term. It's not paranoid, if there is a reasonable chance that it will happen. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Lester wrote: > My patients aren't wearing thin, it's gotten cold -ish .. ok mild for > those > of > you in Wisconsin.. but they are wearing sweaters.. NOT thin. > > And those of us who have office and are forced to work to pay taxes so > that > those sit-on folks can not work are able to sit like bumps on a log... > > > Lester > > Signed: > United Federation of Spridget Owners > On Oct 24, 2011, at 12:49 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > > > Peter, > > > > It is shocking you patients is wearing thin. I thought there was more > spring > in your life. Please make sure you don't blow a gasket!!! > > > > Steve > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Peter Caldwell > > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > > To: spridgets > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office > > Sent: Oct 24, 2011 10:16 AM > > > > At 07:04 AM 10/24/2011, cantrall at wrcresearch.com wrote: > >> Hi, I am out of the office until Tuesday, Oct. 25th. I will be > >> checking > >> e-mail and will get back to you as soon as possible.Thanks for your > >> patience,Bill > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > I am IN the office, not travelling, and my patience is wearing thin. > > > > Thought everyone would like to know, > > > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > > > > > > > Sent from me. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 21:40:01 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:40:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting method to adjust v belt on VW ...see this youtube. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you think that is interesting you should see them install/remove the belt with the motor running. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Oct 24 23:16:58 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <4EA61495.3050505@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1904670086.487404.1319519818647.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> >> United Federation of Spridget Owners I *like* that Should be in a T-Shirt! Or a Baseball cap. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 23:21:38 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:21:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 45k Buy it Now Harley on eBay In-Reply-To: <4EA5F148.90100@dinospider.com> References: <4EA5F148.90100@dinospider.com> Message-ID: ROFLMAO!!! On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > same way they spelled Industries on the right rear :) I suppose its > accurate marketing, the only thing this bike is good for is collecting dust, > but its a fancy bike so its fancy dusties as in all other bikes will leave > it "Industies" > > > On 10/24/2011 02:15 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > >> I am reading all about the things that were done to this bagger which >> started off as a 1999 model and could not find anything about how the rear >> cam bearings were addressed? >> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Sinister-**Industries-26-Custom-Bagger-/ >> **300611493762?pt=US_**motorcycles&hash=**item45fdd75f82#ht_618wt_1064 >> >> >> >> Kirk >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/lists@**dinospider.com >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 23:23:54 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:23:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <3103A3F046CB462A95C29B9ABC0D1FDA@spider> References: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <3103A3F046CB462A95C29B9ABC0D1FDA@spider> Message-ID: That's several of those critters with the 8 tentacles, right? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, wrote: > Oc you py occupy occupy > > ========================= > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:37 PM > To: Jim Johnson > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office > > I'll bet they have secretaries and coffee too! > > At 12:39 PM 10/24/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: > >Unfair!! Those of us who are too poor to even have an office are planning > a > >protest sit-in at both of yours unless you start sharing! > > > >Signed: > >United Federation of Spridget Owners > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 01:39:40 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:39:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed Message-ID: List, Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will no-longer have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. Lin BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. I'll get more work done around here without TV. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 01:46:17 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:46:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: List I decided for a laugh I'd see how much they wanted if I were to get TV back. I will be going from $14.95 to $85.00 and all I wanted was local channels. They can kiss my ass. I hate what they have done to regular TV more than Frank hated Chinese parts. Lin On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local > channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels > especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will no-longer > have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. > Lin > BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. > I'll get more work done around here without TV. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 01:51:09 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:51:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh I am so damn pissed off all I wanted was to watch the news with my coffee before work. If CORPORATE GREED pulls this rate increase on my Internet service I will get rid of the Internet as well. And that includes my cell phone too. I'll just wait till I get to work to check my mail. Lin On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List > I decided for a laugh I'd see how much they wanted if I were to get TV > back. I will be going from $14.95 to $85.00 and all I wanted was local > channels. They can kiss my ass. I hate what they have done to regular TV > more than Frank hated Chinese parts. > > Lin > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> List, >> Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local >> channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels >> especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will no-longer >> have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. >> Lin >> BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. >> I'll get more work done around here without TV. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 01:58:32 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:58:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting method to adjust v belt on VW ...see this youtube. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes I've seen this pretty cool. But I'm not trying it : ) Lin On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:40 PM, derf wrote: > If you think that is interesting you should see them install/remove > the belt with the motor running. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 02:16:27 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:16:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So for passengers side it is seat frame bolted to rail right? Lin On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Before I remove the drivers seat to get my answer do my seats have > another > > rail sandwitched between the floor rail to the seat? > I think only the driver's seat was adjustable. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 02:56:41 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! In-Reply-To: <1E1ACFA85F37420B871A7270D81BE88A@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1319533001.65417.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Funny, I had that same internal discussion before undertaking the project. I thought about building a Daytona coupe and probably could have covered the cost of the kit by selling the Healey. I'd then have to do all the fiberglass work and paint prep, priming and tons of sanding before sending it out for paint. And there's still plenty of fabrication to do on a FF. When all is said and done, it's pretty easy to get $45-65k into a coupe before it's finished. Balanced against this, I had already done all the bodywork and paint on the Healey, the swap had been done plenty of times before and I had lots of help from some guys that had done it and could give me advice on the fabrication process.. The registration and titling laws in Massachusetts were in a state of flux in Mass, at the time and some owners were having difficulty getting their cars road legal, which is ironic and stupid considering Factory Five is located here. And I've been a Healey guy for almost 45 yrs, so the decision came down for the Healey. If I was in the market for a Factory Five now, I'd probably look at a completed one. There's some great deals out there. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 10/24/11, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! To: "'HealeyRick'" , healeys at autox.team.net, spridgets at autox.team.net, modifiedhealeys at yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 10:30 PM Wouldn't a Factory Five Roadster kit achieve the same effect more directly? No criticism here, as I had often thought of throwing a V-8 into an old British sports car. But I look at all the fabrication issues and other hurdles and I think "Why bother?" Why did you choose to do this as opposed to doing something like a Factory Five kit? From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 04:17:36 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:17:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jonathan Whitehouse Bird MKII Moss & McQueen photo updates. Message-ID: A must see for all Spridget enthusiasts. Jon updated his Spritespot link with many of "The Mark 2 "Works" Sebrings" these aluminium bodied MK2 Sprites are stunning but best in color showing that stunning one only blue. http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/album29/A_SPORT also more info here: http://www.sebringsprite.com/mark2sebrings.html I hope to get my garage back from that white elephant called van so I can start my Warwick hardtop restoration and make a girl version to these beauties. But I think she will look best with wire wheels while sporting the hardtop. Those of you in CA keep your eye open for Steves' 9252Wd race number 16 as it was sold to someone there many years ago. Enjoy, Lin From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Oct 25 05:13:33 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1319541213.1117.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Yes, but the two seat bases should not be the same. The stationary base has four brackets to elevate the seat base off the floor, but if you only have two adjustable bases then it doesn't make much difference whether you just bolt it to the floor or mount it with the adjustable rails. jay ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Billy Zoom Cc: Spridget list Sent: Tue, October 25, 2011 4:16:27 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seat rail question 62 Sprite So for passengers side it is seat frame bolted to rail right? Lin On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Before I remove the drivers seat to get my answer do my seats have > another > > rail sandwitched between the floor rail to the seat? > I think only the driver's seat was adjustable. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 25 06:16:12 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:16:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: References: <20111024071645.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <3103A3F046CB462A95C29B9ABC0D1FDA@spider> Message-ID: <43E80CC1-9461-4818-A1D2-021932FF7438@comcast.net> What? Politicians?? Lester On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:23 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > That's several of those critters with the 8 tentacles, right? > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, wrote: > >> Oc you py occupy occupy >> >> ========================= >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins >> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:37 PM >> To: Jim Johnson >> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office >> >> I'll bet they have secretaries and coffee too! >> >> At 12:39 PM 10/24/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >>> Unfair!! Those of us who are too poor to even have an office are planning >> a >>> protest sit-in at both of yours unless you start sharing! >>> >>> Signed: >>> United Federation of Spridget Owners >> >> Tim Collins >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Sprite-Midget Club USA > High Plains Youth Hockey > Dodge City Trail of Fame > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology > Yup. I stay plenty busy!! > bmwwxman at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Oct 25 06:51:42 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:51:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! In-Reply-To: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0C69D482A9184FC49E2C4D4077941E55@Home> You have to cultivate the right mechanic, or in my case, the mechanicess. Last time I went in for a sticker ($10), the girl who does them just filled out the form and gave me one. I said, "Don't you want to see my lights? I spent a long time gettinng them to work right, and they may not work right tomorrow." She said, "OK. Show me your lights." And that was that. She didn't ask to see anything else. :-( Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget Long Island, NY From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Oct 25 06:57:49 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:57:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Traveling -- out of office In-Reply-To: <661900EBCB544F28A76F04820A9DB4EF@HomePC> References: <20111024193647.DC7EA1878CA@autox.team.net> <6E418787-472F-4E53-92B4-2164F92D887D@comcast.net> <661900EBCB544F28A76F04820A9DB4EF@HomePC> Message-ID: > What's really amazing is that some people actually believe this sh_t. The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 25 07:18:51 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:18:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6DA548E9-DB4A-4C77-9434-E411B330FEB4@comcast.net> Hey Lin hold off a bit. I'm getting those same mailers but as I don't trust 'em I think that everything will work fine without the converter box that " you will need to receive full benefit of the changeover".. and I'm with ya, I'll put the rabbit ears up and get my local channels or just do it all through the internet. Lester On Oct 25, 2011, at 2:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local > channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels > especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will no-longer > have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. > Lin > BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. > I'll get more work done around here without TV. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From lmacy at mac.com Tue Oct 25 07:47:46 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:47:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C58E52B-DDA0-4BAB-AADA-DF7794FB9FD3@mac.com> So Lin are you mad or upset or something?? Please just let us know ;-) Larry On Oct 25, 2011, at 03:51 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Oh I am so damn pissed off all I wanted was to watch the news with my coffee > before work. If CORPORATE GREED pulls this rate increase on my Internet > service I will get rid of the Internet as well. And that includes my cell > phone too. > > I'll just wait till I get to work to check my mail. > Lin > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> List >> I decided for a laugh I'd see how much they wanted if I were to get TV >> back. I will be going from $14.95 to $85.00 and all I wanted was local >> channels. They can kiss my ass. I hate what they have done to regular TV >> more than Frank hated Chinese parts. >> >> Lin >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: >> >>> List, >>> Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local >>> channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels >>> especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will no-longer >>> have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. >>> Lin >>> BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. >>> I'll get more work done around here without TV. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry Perelman School of Medicine University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 The bottom line: Sure, there's pain in adopting the Mac. But if I accept that, I get to use a computer that works, and that pretty much does what I expect and want a computer to do. Stewart Alsop FORTUNE.com Monday, June 25, 2001 From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Oct 25 08:00:32 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:00:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! In-Reply-To: <0C69D482A9184FC49E2C4D4077941E55@Home> References: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0C69D482A9184FC49E2C4D4077941E55@Home> Message-ID: <378AE75D-F8CA-4596-8E59-01208629176D@chartermi.net> No "safety" or smog inspections required in my part of Michigan. Can someone show me numbers that prove the "safety" inspections actually accomplish anything other than generating income for the government and the inspectors? Is your accident rate per XXX miles driven less than the accident rate for states without required inspections? California used to have a vehicle safety inspection program administered by the CHP. When asked to prove that the program had a positive effect they couldn't do it and the program was ended. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > You have to cultivate the right mechanic, or in my case, the mechanicess. > > Last time I went in for a sticker ($10), the girl who does them just filled out the form and gave me one. I said, "Don't you want to see my lights? I spent a long time gettinng them to work right, and they may not work right tomorrow." She said, "OK. Show me your lights." And that was that. > > She didn't ask to see anything else. :-( > > Michael Rowe > '74 Bugeyed Midget > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From pfeilmat at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 08:03:43 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:03:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33790250-1FB2-4EEC-A961-CAF014719ED1@gmail.com> I have been televisionless for 4 years now. i work nights and anything I would want to watch is on at that time anyhow. So what is the use of paying for an optional service that i do not use? to say that i miss TV is not true. I have more time for important things like hanging out with my wife and son. Matt P On Oct 25, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local > channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels > especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will no-longer > have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. > Lin > BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. > I'll get more work done around here without TV. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Oct 25 08:15:56 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:15:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Message-ID: Anyone familiar with the MGB chat groups please contact me off-list. Michael Rowe From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Oct 25 09:20:30 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:20:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20111025152030.LCP3S.3033.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> Why do you require cable? Are you not able to receive transmitted signals in your location? Do you have an old TV that doesn't receive digital signals? I'm guessing that you could get an external antenna and a generic digital converter box and do without cable completely. And yes there is incredible greed among the cable companies. (Among lots of businesses actually.) Cable TV companies make a lot of money, as do telephone companies, cellphone companies, etc., but they are always looking for more. I'm always looking for more too but I haven't had a paycheck since March so it's a different story with me. Our local cable company and telephone company sure charge us an awful lot of money, for very little service. Near the first of the summer I was getting tired of the cable outages and having to call the cable company frequently to complain, so I kept a log. In about 42 days I had 18 days with outages, but they still charged me for those days and they refused to come to my house to fix it. We pay about $50 per month for our home telephone and very rarely use it. We make or receive 1-3 calls per week and that's about it. Our service went out a couple of weeks ago, as we found out it was a problem with their wiring in our alley. It took them 4 days to come out and fix it, but we still get charged for those 4 days. I don't like the cost of cable TV, internet, or phone, but what bothers me most about it is after paying such high prices the service is so terrible. > Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local > channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels > especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will no-longer > have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Oct 25 09:34:08 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <33790250-1FB2-4EEC-A961-CAF014719ED1@gmail.com> References: <33790250-1FB2-4EEC-A961-CAF014719ED1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1319556848.15611.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I gave up cable about 10 years ago when the monthly fee w/o any premium or pay services reached $60.00. I used rabbit ears for many years (which pick up more stations than most would imagine), but recently I installed an inexpensive omnidirectional antenna in my attic and my HDTV now receives more than 20 signals which are crystal clear. $720 a year x 10 years = $7,200. Television just isn't worth that to me. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Matt P To: Spridgets Sent: Tue, October 25, 2011 10:03:43 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed I have been televisionless for 4 years now. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 09:40:30 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:40:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! In-Reply-To: <378AE75D-F8CA-4596-8E59-01208629176D@chartermi.net> References: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0C69D482A9184FC49E2C4D4077941E55@Home> <378AE75D-F8CA-4596-8E59-01208629176D@chartermi.net> Message-ID: NY Dept of motor vehicle ends smog on all cars over 25 years old. They are supposed to check lights, tires, breaks, wipers, but for 10 bucks some do a full inspection and other look and if it drove in you get a sticker. Don't complain too loudly they may actually do something and then charge more. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:00:32 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! No "safety" or smog inspections required in my part of Michigan. Can someone show me numbers that prove the "safety" inspections actually accomplish anything other than generating income for the government and the inspectors? Is your accident rate per XXX miles driven less than the accident rate for states without required inspections? California used to have a vehicle safety inspection program administered by the CHP. When asked to prove that the program had a positive effect they couldn't do it and the program was ended. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > You have to cultivate the right mechanic, or in my case, the mechanicess. > > Last time I went in for a sticker ($10), the girl who does them just filled out the form and gave me one. I said, "Don't you want to see my lights? I spent a long time gettinng them to work right, and they may not work right tomorrow." She said, "OK. Show me your lights." And that was that. > > She didn't ask to see anything else. :-( > > Michael Rowe > '74 Bugeyed Midget > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From heard at datatrontech.net Tue Oct 25 09:45:21 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:45:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! In-Reply-To: <378AE75D-F8CA-4596-8E59-01208629176D@chartermi.net> References: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0C69D482A9184FC49E2C4D4077941E55@Home> <378AE75D-F8CA-4596-8E59-01208629176D@chartermi.net> Message-ID: I second that! Ya'll need to do what we did. Get your governor to sit in line at one of those inspections stations. They were horribly inefficient here in Florida. I think it was Bob Graham that go to experience that bs one day and it wasn't long before the inspection stations and all the associated feel-good crap was gone for good. I think this happened in the '70s. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Rick Fisk wrote: > No "safety" or smog inspections required in my part of Michigan. Can > someone > show me numbers that prove the "safety" inspections actually accomplish > anything other than generating income for the government and the > inspectors? > Is your accident rate per XXX miles driven less than the accident rate for > states without required inspections? > > California used to have a vehicle safety inspection program administered by > the CHP. When asked to prove that the program had a positive effect they > couldn't do it and the program was ended. > > Rick > > Sent from my keyboard > > On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > > You have to cultivate the right mechanic, or in my case, the mechanicess. > > > > Last time I went in for a sticker ($10), the girl who does them just > filled > out the form and gave me one. I said, "Don't you want to see my lights? I > spent a long time gettinng them to work right, and they may not work right > tomorrow." She said, "OK. Show me your lights." And that was that. > > > > She didn't ask to see anything else. :-( > > > > Michael Rowe > > '74 Bugeyed Midget > > Long Island, NY > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net > > -- Heard Saxon Datatron Technical Services, Inc. 888-362-3977 From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Oct 25 08:42:53 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:42:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed References: <6DA548E9-DB4A-4C77-9434-E411B330FEB4@comcast.net> Message-ID: Comcast/Xfinity in Nashville has changed to ALL Digital and it requires a converter box to receive anything. You can thank the FCC! After the digital transition, and being promised that you can still get analog channels if you keep cable, Comcast went back to the FCC to get permission to make all of their channels here digital. The catch is that their digital format is NOT configured to work on a normal digital TV, so it requires a small box that outputs only analog, NO HD. Here you don't need a TV just a monitor and a cable box. We now pay over $160.00 a month just to get cable and internet. Also closed caption was an afterthought and requires you to set up your cable box as a global setting which means you have to get the manual out to turn it on and off. A real PIA for my mother-in-law at 91!!! Yes Corporate GREED with the help of the Government, what's new? Mark Nashville Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed > Hey Lin > > hold off a bit. I'm getting those same mailers but as I don't trust 'em I > think that everything will work fine without the converter box that " you > will > need to receive full benefit of the changeover".. and I'm with ya, I'll > put > the rabbit ears up and get my local channels or just do it all through the > internet. > > Lester > > > On Oct 25, 2011, at 2:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> List, >> Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local >> channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels >> especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will > no-longer >> have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. >> Lin >> BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. >> I'll get more work done around here without TV. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 10:06:43 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:06:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <6DA548E9-DB4A-4C77-9434-E411B330FEB4@comcast.net> References: <6DA548E9-DB4A-4C77-9434-E411B330FEB4@comcast.net> Message-ID: FWIW, I've been very happy for about 10 years with DirecTV and my Tivo. You can add local channels to your feed for a little extra and I can get all of my NY Rangers hockey games with the Center Ice package. All local stations will soon be, or already have gone to, digital instead of analog broadcast so if you still have an older TV not set up for the digital signal, an antenna won't work. Many thanks to the FCC and Big Brother who knows whats best for you.... Ohmmmm Ohmmmmm..... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Lester wrote: > Hey Lin > > hold off a bit. I'm getting those same mailers but as I don't trust 'em I > think that everything will work fine without the converter box that " you > will > need to receive full benefit of the changeover".. and I'm with ya, I'll > put > the rabbit ears up and get my local channels or just do it all through the > internet. > > Lester > > > On Oct 25, 2011, at 2:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > List, > > Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local > > channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels > > especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will > no-longer > > have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. > > Lin > > BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. > > I'll get more work done around here without TV. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 10:21:14 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:21:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <1319556848.15611.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <33790250-1FB2-4EEC-A961-CAF014719ED1@gmail.com> <1319556848.15611.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ah, but you live in a signal rich area, Jay. Out here in the hinterlands we get maybe 2 channels of snow with an antenna and one of them is only part time. With satellite I get more channels than I can count and most are HD and crystal clear. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jay wrote: > I gave up cable about 10 years ago when the monthly fee w/o any premium or > pay > services reached $60.00. > > I used rabbit ears for many years (which pick up more stations than most > would > imagine), but recently I installed an inexpensive omnidirectional antenna > in my > attic and my HDTV now receives more than 20 signals which are crystal > clear. > > $720 a year x 10 years = $7,200. > > Television just isn't worth that to me. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Matt P > To: Spridgets > Sent: Tue, October 25, 2011 10:03:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed > > I have been televisionless for 4 years now. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Oct 25 10:53:19 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:53:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20111025165320.ODYT6.4251.root@cdptpa-web26-z02> My understanding is that FCC rules require cable providers to give you the local broadcast channels. I don't know if that means they can charge you for it or not. I have Time Warner cable, in our case Time Warner bought the franchise from Comcast some years ago, who had bought it from someone else over 10 years ago. Our original cable TV provider did not have internet access, when Comcast bought it we got internet access. Until this past January we had only analog TV's and we picked up the analog signals off of the cable with no need for converter boxes of any sort. Now we have a digital TV and it picks up the digital channels below 100 off of the cable with no need for converter box, but many of the high def cable channels and a few others such as NatGeo are above 100 and require a cable box to receive them. Digital or not, a lot of the channels come in very poorly through the cable. We have contemplated switching from Time Warner cable to Verizon FIOS fiber optic. This would save us some money by allowing us to integrate our phone, TV and internet into the same 3-in-1 account. Plus there is a savings for the first 2 years for a new subscriber. OTOH we would have to rent set top decoder boxes for several old tv's which would increase the bill. EVERYONE I have talked to says the quality and speed are far superior to any cable company, I want to switch just for that reason. Right now our TV + internet + telephone is about $170/month, and all 3 of these are the basic services. We could get FIOS plus a lot of extras for less than that. > Comcast/Xfinity in Nashville has changed to ALL Digital and it requires a > converter box to receive anything. You can thank the FCC! After the > digital transition, and being promised that you can still get analog > channels if you keep cable, Comcast went back to the FCC to get permission > to make all of their channels here digital. The catch is that their digital > format is NOT configured to work on a normal digital TV, so it requires a > small box that outputs only analog, NO HD. Here you don't need a TV just a > monitor and a cable box. We now pay over $160.00 a month just to get cable > and internet. Also closed caption was an afterthought and requires you to > set up your cable box as a global setting which means you have to get the > manual out to turn it on and off. A real PIA for my mother-in-law at 91!!! > > Yes Corporate GREED with the help of the Government, what's new? > > Mark > Nashville > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed > > > > Hey Lin > > > > hold off a bit. I'm getting those same mailers but as I don't trust 'em I > > think that everything will work fine without the converter box that " you > > will > > need to receive full benefit of the changeover".. and I'm with ya, I'll > > put > > the rabbit ears up and get my local channels or just do it all through the > > internet. > > > > Lester > > > > > > On Oct 25, 2011, at 2:39 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > >> List, > >> Comcast TV service now wants me to buy XFINITY package to get even local > >> channels & their converter box. I only bought Comcast for local channels > >> especially the news. I am dropping Comcast completely now and will > > no-longer > >> have any TV channels. I won't give into CORPORATE GREED. > >> Lin > >> BTW I've done this before 2000-2002 and missed all the tragedies of 9-11. > >> I'll get more work done around here without TV. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bjshov8 at tx.rr.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Oct 25 10:59:07 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:59:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: References: <6DA548E9-DB4A-4C77-9434-E411B330FEB4@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8208F935588B41E9BA46A82E44CDC375@spider> Our DishTV is better than Comcast/Infinity. My two years are up on my contract though and I want to get another good deal, less than $49.99 per month. Dealing with them via the Internet is very unrewarding. I am going to talk to a local DishTV franchise and see what they can do for one or two years. If I can't get a deal, I may drop it; then get my wife (different last name) to subscribe. That way we get a year at about $29.99, with following year up, up. Extra work and I have to watch out for installation fee and 'free insurance' on the equipment for three months, which I forget to cancel. ...bill in corvallis ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:07 AM Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed FWIW, I've been very happy for about 10 years with DirecTV and my Tivo. You can add local channels to your feed for a little extra and I can get all of my NY Rangers hockey games with the Center Ice package. All local stations will soon be, or already have gone to, digital instead of analog broadcast so if you still have an older TV not set up for the digital signal, an antenna won't work. Many thanks to the FCC and Big Brother who knows whats best for you.... Ohmmmm Ohmmmmm..... Cheers!! Jim From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 11:11:11 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! In-Reply-To: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1319500877.86956.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1319562671.90702.YahooMailNeo@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congratulations on a job well done, Rick! I've been following your build from afar (actually, not that 'afar'... Long Island) with great interest as you've incorporated a combination of things that really get my blood flowing. I love LBC's but I'm also a hot-rodder from way back. Going around corners is lots of fun, but sometimes I really miss pulling away from one of them a little bit sideways and hearing a nice healthy churp! when you grab the next gear. To build something that handles, is a convertible, AND has decent power is the holy grail for somebody like me. David Booker, Long Island From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 11:12:34 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:12:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <20111025152030.LCP3S.3033.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> References: <20111025152030.LCP3S.3033.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> Message-ID: Rant, rant, rant, you may want to use the delete key! On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:20 AM, wrote: > > ... yes there is incredible greed among the cable companies. (Among lots > of > businesses actually.) > Why does this surprise anyone? The corporate officers are charged with making the best return on their investors' money. The would be remiss in not doing everything they can to maximize profit, and are in jeopardy of loosing their [high paying] jobs. OTOH, there are NO consequences for their flaunting the intent of the laws (remember the bank bailout, the intention of which was to free up money to assist individuals save their homes, etc? because they weren't told exactly how to use the money they were loaned corporations were free to use it as they say fit.) Have any Wall Street CEOs If you don't like the results of capitalism elect lawmakers and executives who will put some limitations on the ability of the corporation to screw the public. How about an FCC that will encourage competition among media outlets and delivery (networks and cable companies): if there were real competition there would be fair pricing. How about reducing the ability of the corporate world to finance candidates and influence legislation? Corporations are not people so why should they enjoy greater rights than people just because they can buy those rights? With an election coming up you who are oppressed by corporate greed should look closely at the source of your candidates funding and elect those who have the least ties to, and support from, the Comcasts of the world. You can bet your rear end it ain't the Tea baggers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Oct 25 11:15:27 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: References: <33790250-1FB2-4EEC-A961-CAF014719ED1@gmail.com> <1319556848.15611.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1319562927.72754.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Yes there are more signals here than in rural areas of the country but there is nothing on television worth a $1,000 (or more) a year. jay ________________________________ From: Jim Johnson Ah, but you live in a signal rich area, Jay. From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 25 11:42:41 2011 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <20111025165320.ODYT6.4251.root@cdptpa-web26-z02> References: <20111025165320.ODYT6.4251.root@cdptpa-web26-z02> Message-ID: <005d01cc933d$7f3ffd90$7dbff8b0$@com> OK, let me pipe in here. Digital antenna works great if you get one suitable for the distance to the transmitter. I'm at least 75 miles in any direction to any of the towers, requiring the best(most expensive) antenna. One thing to consider is the media convergence that's accelerating... Roku, Logitech, Boxee, Apple TV and Popbox all are delivering streaming media, via your internet connection, in HD, to your TV. The one I like currently is the Logitech Revue. $99 at Best Buy (reduced from $299). Logitech and Google had some legal battles with some content delivery providers that have been solved. The Logitech Revue turns your TV into a Google Smart TV, with Google apps, etc. You get a wireless "querty keyboard" that also controls your TV, AV receiver, cable or satellite box, etc. It allows you to use your TV as a browser to surf the web. Get yourself a $7.95 Netflix streaming account, and Bob's your uncle. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:53 AM To: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed My understanding is that FCC rules require cable providers to give you the local broadcast channels. I don't know if that means they can charge you for it or not. I have Time Warner cable, in our case Time Warner bought the franchise from Comcast some years ago, who had bought it from someone else over 10 years ago. Our original cable TV provider did not have internet access, when Comcast bought it we got internet access. Until this past January we had only analog TV's and we picked up the analog signals off of the cable with no need for converter boxes of any sort. Now we have a digital TV and it picks up the digital channels below 100 off of the cable with no need for converter box, but many of the high def cable channels and a few others such as NatGeo are above 100 and require a cable box to receive them. Digital or not, a lot of the channels come in very poorly through the cable. We have contemplated switching from Time Warner cable to Verizon FIOS fiber optic. This would save us some money by allowing us to integrate our phone, TV and internet into the same 3-in-1 account. Plus there is a savings for the first 2 years for a new subscriber. OTOH we would have to rent set top decoder boxes for several old tv's which would increase the bill. EVERYONE I have talked to says the quality and speed are far superior to any cable company, I want to switch just for that reason. Right now our TV + internet + telephone is about $170/month, and all 3 of these are the basic services. We could get FIOS plus a lot of extras for less than that. From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 25 11:44:50 2011 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:44:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <20111025165320.ODYT6.4251.root@cdptpa-web26-z02> References: <20111025165320.ODYT6.4251.root@cdptpa-web26-z02> Message-ID: <005e01cc933d$ccb05ca0$661115e0$@com> http://gigaom.com/video/99-dollar-logitech-revue-worth-buying/ 5 reasons to buy the Logitech Revue -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:53 AM To: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed My understanding is that FCC rules require cable providers to give you the local broadcast channels. I don't know if that means they can charge you for it or not. I have Time Warner cable, in our case Time Warner bought the franchise from Comcast some years ago, who had bought it from someone else over 10 years ago. Our original cable TV provider did not have internet access, when Comcast bought it we got internet access. Until this past January we had only analog TV's and we picked up the analog signals off of the cable with no need for converter boxes of any sort. Now we have a digital TV and it picks up the digital channels below 100 off of the cable with no need for converter box, but many of the high def cable channels and a few others such as NatGeo are above 100 and require a cable box to receive them. Digital or not, a lot of the channels come in very poorly through the cable. We have contemplated switching from Time Warner cable to Verizon FIOS fiber optic. This would save us some money by allowing us to integrate our phone, TV and internet into the same 3-in-1 account. Plus there is a savings for the first 2 years for a new subscriber. OTOH we would have to rent set top decoder boxes for several old tv's which would increase the bill. EVERYONE I have talked to says the quality and speed are far superior to any cable company, I want to switch just for that reason. Right now our TV + internet + telephone is about $170/month, and all 3 of these are the basic services. We could get FIOS plus a lot of extras for less than that. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Oct 25 13:42:37 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:42:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <005d01cc933d$7f3ffd90$7dbff8b0$@com> References: <20111025165320.ODYT6.4251.root@cdptpa-web26-z02> <005d01cc933d$7f3ffd90$7dbff8b0$@com> Message-ID: <4EA7112D.5040305@justbrits.com> << OK, let me pipe in here. >> Absolutely, Flounder ! ! I had a hunch you would ! << Digital antenna works great if you get one suitable for the distance to the transmitter. >> AMEN. Pay CLOSE attention to dem words, Listers ! ! Perhaps "Nashville - I'm gonna change LBCs AGAIN - Mark" will add HIS $ 1.00 here ! ?! << I'm at least 75 miles in any direction to any of the towers, requiring the best(most expensive) antenna. >> Whilst tru [and TNX] Flounder, it goes back to "ya gits whatcha yas pays for." ! ! ! ! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Oct 25 14:36:41 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! Message-ID: <2818b.13e9f985.3bd877d8@aol.com> I spend some time checking stuff on my car that I wouldn't otherwise bother with until I though there was a problem. The most useful thing in our MOT test is the dynamic roller brake test. If a rear brake isn't working the test will tell you that and then maybe it's time to swap a slave. With the front brakes you'll generally feel a problem because the car will pull to one side or the other. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 25/10/2011 16:14:41 GMT Daylight Time, refisk at chartermi.net writes: Can someone show me numbers that prove the "safety" inspections actually accomplish anything From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Oct 25 14:37:34 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy First Drive - I Got a Sticker! Message-ID: <28239.59b7a8bf.3bd8780e@aol.com> That's because you didn't offer? In a message dated 25/10/2011 14:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: She didn't ask to see anything else. :-( From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 14:53:39 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:53:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <1319562927.72754.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <33790250-1FB2-4EEC-A961-CAF014719ED1@gmail.com> <1319556848.15611.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1319562927.72754.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I won't argue THAT point!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Jay wrote: > Yes there are more signals here than in rural areas of the country but > there is > nothing on television worth a $1,000 (or more) a year. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jim Johnson > > Ah, but you live in a signal rich area, Jay. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From pchast at francomm.com Tue Oct 25 17:35:32 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:35:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <1319556848.15611.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <33790250-1FB2-4EEC-A961-CAF014719ED1@gmail.com> <1319556848.15611.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There are no broadcast stations that reach our home or I would also ditch satellite TV. Pete Athens, NY On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:34:08 -0400, Jay wrote: > > I gave up cable about 10 years ago when the monthly fee w/o any premium > or pay > services reached $60.00. > > I used rabbit ears for many years (which pick up more stations than most > would > imagine), but recently I installed an inexpensive omnidirectional > antenna in my > attic and my HDTV now receives more than 20 signals which are crystal > clear. > > $720 a year x 10 years = $7,200. > > Television just isn't worth that to me. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Matt P > To: Spridgets > Sent: Tue, October 25, 2011 10:03:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed > > I have been televisionless for 4 years now. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From kmappley at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 18:21:16 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:21:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Jonathan Whitehouse Bird MK11 Moss & McQueen photo updates. Message-ID: Thanks for posting these great pics, Linda. Kurt. From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 25 19:20:39 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:20:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed Message-ID: <004101cc937d$79844b50$6c8ce1f0$@net> Hal Faulkner wrote: "Why does this surprise anyone? The corporate officers are charged with making the best return on their investors' money.... Corporations are not people...." It must be remembered that those "investors" are not "Wall Street Fat Cats", but actually include most of the people on this list who have retirement plans (public and private), insurance, mutual funds, etc. We are ALL, therefore, the "Fat Cats" who want OUR investments to make money for US. That is the nature of capitalism and individualism. RBE From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Oct 25 19:52:42 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:52:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <004101cc937d$79844b50$6c8ce1f0$@net> References: <004101cc937d$79844b50$6c8ce1f0$@net> Message-ID: <46790AFBD7474D94AE9FF844A0404C9B@spider> Ah be a slim cat. ...bill in corvallis =================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:21 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed Hal Faulkner wrote: "Why does this surprise anyone? The corporate officers are charged with making the best return on their investors' money.... Corporations are not people...." It must be remembered that those "investors" are not "Wall Street Fat Cats", but actually include most of the people on this list who have retirement plans (public and private), insurance, mutual funds, etc. We are ALL, therefore, the "Fat Cats" who want OUR investments to make money for US. That is the nature of capitalism and individualism. RBE Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From mark at bradakis.com Tue Oct 25 20:38:40 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:38:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC.........Cable TV Corporate Greed In-Reply-To: <20111025152030.LCP3S.3033.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> References: <20111025152030.LCP3S.3033.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> Message-ID: <4EA772B0.8090004@bradakis.com> > Our local cable company and telephone company > sure charge us an awful lot of money, for very little service. Near the first > of the summer I was getting tired of the cable outages and having to call the > cable company frequently to complain, so I kept a log. In about 42 days I had > 18 days with outages, but they still charged me for those days That's one nice thing about Team.Net - you get lousy customer service but you don't have to pay for it! Well, some folks do contribute and in the spring raised enough money to buy a nice, fast, slightly used server. I'll be concentrating on getting these email lists moved to the new server ASAP. Currently the old server is taking an hour or two to get list messages sent out to everyone - lot of timeouts waiting for small hard drive writes and such. And the mailman interface is behaving badly - some things may work, some may not. All the software needs updating - RealSoonNow. Before there is any scheduled downtime for the transition I'll let folks know what to expect. mjb. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 03:56:10 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 02:56:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jonathan Whitehouse Bird MKII Moss & McQueen photo updates. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update as to the fate of Steve McQueens Works Sprite. http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/MitchGoldsteinMcQueenSprite.html Still looking for the remains. Read the link above especially if you're from the CA area. Lin On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > A must see for all Spridget enthusiasts. > Jon updated his Spritespot link with many of "The Mark 2 "Works" Sebrings" > these aluminium bodied MK2 Sprites are stunning but best in color showing > that stunning one only blue. > > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/album29/A_SPORT > > also more info here: > http://www.sebringsprite.com/mark2sebrings.html > > I hope to get my garage back from that white elephant called van so I can > start my Warwick hardtop restoration and make a girl version to these > beauties. But I think she will look best with wire wheels while sporting the > hardtop. > > Those of you in CA keep your eye open for Steves' 9252Wd race number 16 as > it was sold to someone there many years ago. > > Enjoy, > Lin From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Oct 26 12:09:39 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:09:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hop, skip, and jump Message-ID: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> There is a small bump on a corner near my house. My other cars hardly notice it, but the Midget always hops to the side a little, I think in the rear. I have new rear shocks - PPP's Best; no change. If any of the racers on this list had this condition, they would long since have been killed, so it can't be intrinsic to the suspension. Any thoughts? (No, not those thoughts. Helpful thoughts.) Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Oct 26 13:00:10 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hop, skip, and jump In-Reply-To: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> References: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> Message-ID: <1319655610.49396.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Live axle. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe There is a small bump on a corner near my house. My other cars hardly notice it, but the Midget always hops to the side a little, I think in the rear. From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Oct 26 13:12:52 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:12:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hop, skip, and jump In-Reply-To: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> References: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> Message-ID: <1354694133.20111026121252@pacifier.com> Hello Michael, Have you checked the tightness of the U-Bolts that hold the axle to the springs? My car used to move to one side when I accelerated and the other when I let off the gas. I thought it was a characteristic of the car until I found the nuts on those bolts loose, or rather not TIGHT. Make 'em really TIGHT. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I haven't developed my photographs yet," said Tom negatively. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Oct 26 14:05:41 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:05:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hop, skip, and jump In-Reply-To: <1354694133.20111026121252@pacifier.com> References: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> <1354694133.20111026121252@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <201110261305641.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> And a broken leaf will do it too. The pads shrink over time.... kinda like clothes in the closet. You need to tighten the u-bolts, and/or replace the pads. Peter C At 02:12 PM 10/26/2011, Bill L wrote: >Hello Michael, > > Have you checked the tightness of the U-Bolts that hold the axle > to the springs? From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 14:32:46 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jonathan Whitehouse Bird MKII Moss & McQueen photo updates. Message-ID: There are many possible traces and clues. Realizing the story says he's deceased but thinking a bit like Sam Clemens who said... "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" I spent a few minutes looking for the whereabouts of Peter Talbert as though he might still be warm and respiring. Here is what I found - I do not know if this is all about the right guy or not but here for your pleasure: Peter Talbert http://www.1966shelbynotchbackmustang.com/NotchbackHistory.html http://www.ponysite.de/66_shelbygroup2_3.htm http://www.trans-amseries.com/Drivers/CarlStein.html Maybe... Wife: Ann Reinking Married to "Sports Writer" Peter Talbert in 1994 and living in Phoenix Arizona (The Peter Talbert we are looking for was connected to Motor Sports International which is why this struck me as a possibility) http://doney.net/aroundaz/celebrity/celebrity_r.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Reinking Picture of Peter Talbert on this page (is that him?): http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/332662 Rick Bastedo MK2 Sprite (little red thing) __________________________________________ > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Jonathan Whitehouse Bird MKII Moss & McQueen photo > updates. > Update as to the fate of Steve McQueens Works Sprite. > > http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/MitchGoldsteinMcQueenSprite.html > > Still looking for the remains. Read the link above especially if you're > from > the CA area. > Lin > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Linda Grunthaner >wrote: > > > A must see for all Spridget enthusiasts. > > Jon updated his Spritespot link with many of "The Mark 2 "Works" > Sebrings" > > these aluminium bodied MK2 Sprites are stunning but best in color showing > > that stunning one only blue. > > > > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/album29/A_SPORT > > > > also more info here: > > http://www.sebringsprite.com/mark2sebrings.html > > > > I hope to get my garage back from that white elephant called van so I can > > start my Warwick hardtop restoration and make a girl version to these > > beauties. But I think she will look best with wire wheels while sporting > the > > hardtop. > > > > Those of you in CA keep your eye open for Steves' 9252Wd race number 16 > as > > it was sold to someone there many years ago. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 15:44:52 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:44:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Message-ID: Rick, Such an awesome car. . sounds like so much fun to drive . . so please send some pics as soon as you can! Kirk From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 26 16:40:22 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A867AAFE7C4498BB5EF303FAA4C5B29@HomePC> Or better yet, videos. With sound. Nothing like the deep throaty sound of a V8. -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:44 PM To: healeyrick at yahoo.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Rick, Such an awesome car. . sounds like so much fun to drive . . so please send some pics as soon as you can! Kirk Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Oct 26 17:34:55 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:34:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Woopsies! Message-ID: <0727BB7F4EBA417B841E715F6D39AAED@Home> I installed a rear bearing today. Everything went on OK, except I had an extra screw. Two can go in the brake drum, so I thought I had just forgotten because the car has been sitting apart for a while. (Old age, you know.) I put the wheel on and felt pretty good about how it had all gone. I turned with a self-satisfied grin, and saw the axle leaning against the wall behind me. Woopsies! Michael Rowe From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Oct 26 18:26:18 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Woopsies! In-Reply-To: <0727BB7F4EBA417B841E715F6D39AAED@Home> Message-ID: <1319675178.23794.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Don't feel like the Lone Ranger on that kind of episode. As I get older I also suffer from CRS! Mike MacLean 60 Bugeye 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Wed, 10/26/11, Michael Rowe wrote: From: Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] Woopsies! To: "Spridgets" Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 11:34 PM I installed a rear bearing today. Everything went on OK, except I had an extra screw. Two can go in the brake drum, so I thought I had just forgotten because the car has been sitting apart for a while. (Old age, you know.) I put the wheel on and felt pretty good about how it had all gone. I turned with a self-satisfied grin, and saw the axle leaning against the wall behind me. Woopsies! Michael Rowe Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Oct 26 18:31:12 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question Message-ID: <1319675472.18435.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The last time I had my car painted was just before LotO in 08. The neanderthals re-assembling the trim pulled a little too hard om the very top pin for the Bugeye grill. In fact, they pulled so hard to get the speed nut tight, they cracked the metal at the peak of the grill. I relieved the pressure on the pin, but the damage is done. If I get this re-chromed (expensive these days) can this be fixed by the re-chromer? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From blimpie at centurytel.net Wed Oct 26 19:09:54 2011 From: blimpie at centurytel.net (Michael Blair) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:09:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More is less on ethanol Message-ID: TESTING CONFIRMS DANGERS OF ETHANOL IN MARINE ENGINES On Friday (Oct. 21, 2011) the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Energy Efficiency & Renewable Energy released the results of two studies on the effects of using fuel that is 15 percent ethanol in volume (E15) in marine engines. The studies were conducted on engines provided by two marine engine manufactures; Both are members of National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA). The long-awaited reports show significant problems with outboard, stern drive and inboard engines. Results of the reports show severe damage to engine components and an increase in exhaust emissions, reinforcing the recreational boating industry's concern that E15 is not a suitable fuel for marine engines. Emissions and durability testing compared E15 fuel and fuel containing zero percent ethanol (E0) and examined exhaust emissions, exhaust gas temperature, torque, power, barometric pressure, air temperature, and fuel flow. Specifically, the report showed degraded emissions performance outside of engine certification limits as well as increased fuel consumption. In separate testing on engine durability, each tested engine showed deterioration, including two of the three outboard engines, with damages severe enough to prevent them from completing the test cycle. The E0 test engines did not exhibit any fuel related issues. -- Read on: http://www.nmma.org/news.aspx?id=18043 From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 20:16:24 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:16:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: <1319675472.18435.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1319675472.18435.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: If I get this re-chromed (expensive these days) can this be fixed by the re-chromer? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Back in the day, a situation like this was cured by silver soldering the part back into place and then chromed... Don't know how chrome shops are fixing things today. Don't know if real silver solder is still available either... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Oct 26 20:22:15 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:22:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: <1319675472.18435.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1319675472.18435.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <25BC3B970FFF45789B8EA0A6BF2A5AAF@blackbox2> Yes, I believe a good chromer can fix it. But they will charge accordingly. I've had good results from Frankford in Philadelphia. http://www.frankfordplatinginc.net/ Standard disclaimer applies, no vested interest etc... -----Original Message----- From: Michael MacLean Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question The last time I had my car painted was just before LotO in 08. The neanderthals re-assembling the trim pulled a little too hard om the very top pin for the Bugeye grill. In fact, they pulled so hard to get the speed nut tight, they cracked the metal at the peak of the grill. I relieved the pressure on the pin, but the damage is done. If I get this re-chromed (expensive these days) can this be fixed by the re-chromer? From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Oct 26 20:29:00 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:29:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: References: <1319675472.18435.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13376555-B52A-4EA6-8507-96A3069BFF04@att.net> Yes, silver solder is most assuredly still available. I use it to put wire landing gear together for my R/C airplanes. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2011, at 19:16, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Michael MacLean > wrote: > If I get this re-chromed (expensive these days) can this be fixed by > the re-chromer? > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Back in the day, a situation like this was cured by silver soldering > the part back into place and then chromed... Don't know how chrome > shops are fixing things today. Don't know if real silver solder is > still available either... > > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Oct 26 22:25:56 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 04:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <8A867AAFE7C4498BB5EF303FAA4C5B29@HomePC> Message-ID: <1211726294.316891.1319689556452.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> To hell with all of that. Just send me the car. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Kirk Hargreaves" , healeyrick at yahoo.com Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:40:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Or better yet, videos. With sound. Nothing like the deep throaty sound of a V8. -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:44 PM To: healeyrick at yahoo.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Rick, Such an awesome car. . sounds like so much fun to drive . . so please send some pics as soon as you can! Kirk Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 22:51:32 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:51:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The heck with the pix & videos...send me the car!!!!!!!!!!!! Herb From pfeilmat at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 23:18:00 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:18:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: <13376555-B52A-4EA6-8507-96A3069BFF04@att.net> References: <1319675472.18435.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <13376555-B52A-4EA6-8507-96A3069BFF04@att.net> Message-ID: <7432B2E5-0EE5-4903-9B61-92B38C2F4BEF@gmail.com> Silver Solder can be had at most welding supply stores. I worked at a plant where all the boss you let us use was silver solder for copper plumbing. Got pretty good at it. It does not work good with a propane torch though. Maybe MAPP gas? I used Oxy-Acetylene when I did it. I don't know how it would work on the pot metal trim. That might just melt. Matt P On Oct 26, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Mike MacLean wrote: > Yes, silver solder is most assuredly still available. I use it to put wire > landing gear together for my R/C airplanes. > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 26, 2011, at 19:16, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Michael MacLean >> wrote: >> If I get this re-chromed (expensive these days) can this be fixed by >> the re-chromer? >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Back in the day, a situation like this was cured by silver soldering >> the part back into place and then chromed... Don't know how chrome >> shops are fixing things today. Don't know if real silver solder is >> still available either... >> >> -- >> Kent >> 1960 Bugeye >> 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! >> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Oct 27 00:37:03 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: <7432B2E5-0EE5-4903-9B61-92B38C2F4BEF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <881265083.516179.1319697423997.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The Powder Coating man will not guarantee powder coating on pot metal as it starts to melt around 400 degrees.... the temperature they use.!! I would try an old fashioned solder iron. We powder coated my sons Aluminium 350Z intake manifold.... it was hot enough to cause sub-surface bubbles to 'pop' and leave several small pits in the surface! With Black texture finish it wasn't very noticeable. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Matt P" wrote: > I don't know how it would work > on the pot metal trim. That might just melt. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Oct 27 01:42:37 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:42:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: <881265083.516179.1319697423997.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <881265083.516179.1319697423997.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Who says the Bugeye grill is pot metal? I thought it was mild steel. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2011, at 23:37, Dave KK7SS wrote: > The Powder Coating man will not guarantee powder coating on pot metal as it starts to melt around 400 degrees.... the temperature they use.!! > > I would try an old fashioned solder iron. > > We powder coated my sons Aluminium 350Z intake manifold.... it was hot enough to cause sub-surface bubbles to 'pop' and leave several small pits in the surface! > With Black texture finish it wasn't very noticeable. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- "Matt P" wrote: >> I don't know how it would work >> on the pot metal trim. That might just melt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From grday at btinternet.com Thu Oct 27 02:09:40 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:09:40 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build References: Message-ID: <08314B0F7C8E48B3ABF598C1E57582DE@user8634b3d69b> Too late Herb, Kate got in first!! LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" <> To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <> Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build > The heck with the pix & videos...send me the car!!!!!!!!!!!! > Herb > _______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 03:56:02 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:56:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Woopsies! In-Reply-To: <1319675178.23794.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <0727BB7F4EBA417B841E715F6D39AAED@Home> <1319675178.23794.YahooMailClassic@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yea we've all done something like it. Lin On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > Don't feel like the Lone Ranger on that kind of episode. As I get older I > also suffer from CRS! > Mike MacLean > 60 Bugeye > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > > --- On Wed, 10/26/11, Michael Rowe wrote: > > From: Michael Rowe > Subject: [Spridgets] Woopsies! > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 11:34 PM > > I installed a rear bearing today. Everything went on OK, except I had an > extra screw. Two can go in the brake drum, so I thought I had just > forgotten > because the car has been sitting apart for a while. (Old age, you know.) I > put the wheel on and felt pretty good about how it had all gone. I turned > with a self-satisfied grin, and saw the axle leaning against the wall > behind > me. > > Woopsies! > > Michael Rowe > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 04:01:19 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 03:01:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jonathan Whitehouse Bird MKII Moss & McQueen photo updates. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know but I'll pass it along, thanks Lin On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > There are many possible traces and clues. > Realizing the story says he's deceased but thinking a bit like Sam Clemens > who said... > > "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" > > I spent a few minutes looking for the whereabouts of Peter Talbert as > though > he might still be warm and respiring. > Here is what I found - I do not know if this is all about the right guy or > not but here for your pleasure: > > Peter Talbert > http://www.1966shelbynotchbackmustang.com/NotchbackHistory.html > http://www.ponysite.de/66_shelbygroup2_3.htm > http://www.trans-amseries.com/Drivers/CarlStein.html > > Maybe... > Wife: Ann Reinking > Married to "Sports Writer" Peter Talbert in 1994 and living in Phoenix > Arizona > (The Peter Talbert we are looking for was connected to Motor Sports > International which is why this struck me as a possibility) > http://doney.net/aroundaz/celebrity/celebrity_r.htm > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Reinking > > Picture of Peter Talbert on this page (is that him?): > http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/332662 > > Rick Bastedo > MK2 Sprite > (little red thing) > > __________________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Jonathan Whitehouse Bird MKII Moss & McQueen > photo > > updates. > > Update as to the fate of Steve McQueens Works Sprite. > > > > http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/MitchGoldsteinMcQueenSprite.html > > > > Still looking for the remains. Read the link above especially if you're > > from > > the CA area. > > Lin > > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Linda Grunthaner > >wrote: > > > > > A must see for all Spridget enthusiasts. > > > Jon updated his Spritespot link with many of "The Mark 2 "Works" > > Sebrings" > > > these aluminium bodied MK2 Sprites are stunning but best in color > showing > > > that stunning one only blue. > > > > > > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/album29/A_SPORT > > > > > > also more info here: > > > http://www.sebringsprite.com/mark2sebrings.html > > > > > > I hope to get my garage back from that white elephant called van so I > can > > > start my Warwick hardtop restoration and make a girl version to these > > > beauties. But I think she will look best with wire wheels while > sporting > > the > > > hardtop. > > > > > > Those of you in CA keep your eye open for Steves' 9252Wd race number 16 > > as > > > it was sold to someone there many years ago. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu Oct 27 04:04:06 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 05:04:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EA92C96.9080803@justbrits.com> Geesh, Kirk ................ << .... . so please send some pics as soon as you can! >> You mean like all that he has taken from [roughly] Day # 1 And I've been a Healey guy for almost 45 yrs, so the decision came down for the Healey. If Iwas in the market for a Factory Five now, I'd probably look at a completed one. There's some great deals out there. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 04:10:07 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 03:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? Message-ID: List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I was hooked ever since. So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got hooked? This should be fun to see the replies : ) Lin From lotuspilot at frontier.com Thu Oct 27 06:25:55 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <1401212087.93917.1319718256830.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <349729572.93922.1319718355066.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The year was 1980 and I was 10. I was at Summit Point Raceway (SCCA)with my parents. There were quite a few Bugeyes and Lotus Sevens in the paddock. I had a bicycle with me and access to the pits. It went down hill from there. I have owned 5 Bugeyes, a '65 Spitfire, 3 Mk II Sprites, 1 Mk I Midget, '67 Sprite, 68 Sprite, 69 Sprite and 73 MG Midget. Then I moved on to the best . . . series one lotus Super Seven and early series two Seven America after I sold my series two Super Seven. I still have a '61 Bugeye and a '62 Sprite that is going to vintage race. I have loved every minute of my illness. Mike Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:10:07 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I was hooked ever since. So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got hooked? This should be fun to see the replies : ) Lin _______________________________________________ From clarici at verizon.net Thu Oct 27 06:47:49 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:47:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901cc94a6$a2f8ad30$e8ea0790$@net> I was born into it. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:10 AM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I was hooked ever since. So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got hooked? This should be fun to see the replies : ) Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Oct 27 06:48:32 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:48:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I autocrossed a Midget in graduate school in the late '60s, and had been running second and second and second for a very long time. I took a girl to the races on our second date, and won for the first time ever. So I took my trophy, quit racing, married the girl, and never raced again. I still have that trophy in a closet in Honolulu. And I still have the girl. Michael Rowe From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 07:21:46 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:21:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My father brought a few home to fix up around 1980. The first one I drove was my sister's 1972 w/wires. The first (and only) one I wrecked was my sister's 1972. I later repaid her by taking her 1973 after it had been sitting for a long while and getting it driving condition. At a 4th of July cookout at my sis's place in the country I told her I wanted the 73. (She still had the 72, too, but neither had run in a long time.) I told her I would not sell the 73 to anyone else and if she ever wanted it back all she had to do was ask. One day, she asked. It was a few years later and she just called one day and said she'd like to have it back. My wife was a little peeved at the time. She had seen me rescue the car, get it going, clean it up, and drive it often. She didn't understand, even though she knew, when I told my sister she could have it back anytime I was not kidding. I then bought another 73 from Keith Turk. My wife refused to drive a car with no A/C. She didn't ride in them very often, either. I found a good deal on a Miata and shortly thereafter sold the 73. My sister still has the 72, 73, and a few other square arch cars. She lives in the country and has storage space. None of them run. She drove the 73 for a while after she got it back from me and eventually parked it. I tried once to get the 72 running but the motor is locked solid. Soaking with Marvel Mystery Oil and repeated attempts would not budge it. Maybe after the Diesel Golf, the 5.0 Miata, and the 10kW military generator projects are complete I'll see about getting another Spridget running for my sis. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 07:25:46 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:25:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <4EA92C96.9080803@justbrits.com> References: <4EA92C96.9080803@justbrits.com> Message-ID: The V8 for my 5.0 Miata also came from a 2000 Explorer. There was a 1/2 price sale at LKQ self serv auto. Imaging my delight when I went under the Explorer to remove the motor and saw a factory reman sticker dated 2008. From doug_altman at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 07:31:11 2011 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hop, skip, and jump In-Reply-To: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> References: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> Message-ID: <1319722271.97696.YahooMailNeo@web125704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> If adjustable, check your bump steer. Also check alignment and toe-in. Just my two cents. Doug ....o~'o ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe To: Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:09 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hop, skip, and jump There is a small bump on a corner near my house. My other cars hardly notice it, but the Midget always hops to the side a little, I think in the rear. I have new rear shocks - PPP's Best; no change. If any of the racers on this list had this condition, they would long since have been killed, so it can't be intrinsic to the suspension. Any thoughts? (No, not those thoughts. Helpful thoughts.) Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/doug_altman at yahoo.com From grday at btinternet.com Thu Oct 27 07:50:06 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:50:06 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? References: <349729572.93922.1319718355066.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <3F1790F784D84325BB8AB142BE187AF4@user8634b3d69b> I had a liking for the simplicity and ease of repair to the BMC A series engine together with the modifications that made it into a decent small power plant for quite a while before bug-eyes got to me. Some 30 odd years ago I was driving across a roundabout on a Motorway (Freeway) junction when I saw an Austin Healey Sprite broken down on the shoulder. Being a helpful guy (and seeing the rather tasty looking girl with the car) I stopped to offer help. It was only then I saw her boyfriend appeared from under the hood (big, very big, like a cross between a weight lifter and a large rugby player) who heard me offer help and he said, "You can't fix it, nobody can, I have tried and it can't be done. I've called the AA out." Five minutes later the car was running after the ground (earth) lead in the distributer was repaired. Boyfriend sat in the car with the door firmly closed, a face like thunder and looks that were shortening my life span but the angel in human form gave me her telephone number. To cut several months out that have nothing to do with the love of motors, the car became mine and life moved on with fond memories. It was a daily driver for many years and is now the donor car for the partially completed transplant to a new shell. But that is another story that will not develop until after my father-in-law dies. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "Spridget list" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? > The year was 1980 and I was 10. I was at Summit Point Raceway (SCCA)with > my parents. There were quite a few Bugeyes and Lotus Sevens in the > paddock. I had a bicycle with me and access to the pits. It went down > hill from there. I have owned 5 Bugeyes, a '65 Spitfire, 3 Mk II Sprites, > 1 Mk I Midget, '67 Sprite, 68 Sprite, 69 Sprite and 73 MG Midget. Then I > moved on to the best . . . series one lotus Super Seven and early series > two Seven America after I sold my series two Super Seven. I still have a > '61 Bugeye and a '62 Sprite that is going to vintage race. > > I have loved every minute of my illness. > > Mike Carpenter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Spridget list" > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:10:07 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? > > List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you > hooked, > his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and > seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my > older > brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family > car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. > I > was hooked ever since. > > So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got > hooked? > > This should be fun to see the replies : ) > Lin > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 27 07:58:17 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:58:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <000901cc94a6$a2f8ad30$e8ea0790$@net> References: <000901cc94a6$a2f8ad30$e8ea0790$@net> Message-ID: <201110270658680.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 07:47 AM 10/27/2011, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote: >I was born into it. > >Frankie +++++++++++ Entirely conceivable.... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Oct 27 08:24:26 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:24:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Back in college in '76 or so. Very chesty very cute girl wanted her car tuned.. so I learned REALLY quick about fixin' a Bugeye. Then it was another 30 years or so before I purchased one as Swedish cars have a STRONG pull on one. Of course, they didn't make a convertible or roadster until the '80s.. Lester On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, > his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and > seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older > brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family > car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I > was hooked ever since. > > So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got > hooked? > > This should be fun to see the replies : ) > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 09:10:35 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319728235.29293.YahooMailClassic@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> somewhere around the mid 70's i was autocrossing a porsche powered '64 karman ghia. sprites and mini's were setting fastest time of day and no matter what i did the swing axle VW chassis was just not cornering fast enough nor acelerating fast enough for me to be competitive and then i found my '59 bugeye....yeah the same one i still have today. but i also still have my '55 chevy that i drag raced and autocrossed back then too. (this will see a resurection after the bugeye gets the engine repaired!) i tend to keep things...... and of course i'm still uncontrollably "saab-ing" due to my father's sports car racing influence during my childhood. chuck been there...broke that....fixed it....broke it again.... --- On Thu, 10/27/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? To: "Spridget list" Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 6:10 AM List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I was hooked ever since. So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got hooked? This should be fun to see the replies : ) Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 09:23:37 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1319729017.51646.YahooMailNeo@web112706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I was 9 years old selling news papers in the Army barracks and there were 2 Bugeyes I would see around the base. I bought my Bugeye in 1979 and then couldnbt afford to get it back on the road so it got pushed into the corner of the garage and forgotten. I discovered it under a pile of stuff in 2010 and decided it was time to do something with it. This was the first summer Ibve been able to drive it. B I spent most of my money on body and suspension and had to use a motor and transmission that came out of a parts car I bought for brakes. They got me through this summer and should be replaced this winter. If I wasnbt a good double clutcher I would have never made it through the summer. B Bill W B B B B ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:10 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I was hooked ever since. So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got hooked? This should be fun to see the replies : ) Lin _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Oct 27 09:29:21 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <201110270658680.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <000901cc94a6$a2f8ad30$e8ea0790$@net> <201110270658680.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <1319729361.44126.YahooMailRC@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Where were you when the LBC bug got you? Hard to say, but I've had a cold and sore throat for 3 weeks now. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From millerls at ado13.com Thu Oct 27 10:11:22 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:11:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <201110270658680.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <000901cc94a6$a2f8ad30$e8ea0790$@net> <201110270658680.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <65CE947A-B32D-4BB2-81AD-36E0ECFAE8D1@ado13.com> This car is now Bugzuki. http://www.ado13.com/articles/lafs.html From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Oct 27 10:26:53 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <627769661.521207.1319732813781.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> My mistake, I thought it was like the MKII/III grill -- made as an Aluminium pressing. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Mike MacLean" wrote: > Who says the Bugeye grill is pot metal? I thought it was mild steel. > > Mike MacLean > > > > Sent from my iPhone From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 10:58:58 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:58:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Linda Grunthaner asks: > So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got > hooked? > I saw my first BE in about 1960 parked in a neighbors driveway but have to admit I just thought of it as a funny little car. It was 1965 in England when walking home from the pub one night a strange looking car loomed out of the gloom with nothing but running lights and huge wheels and wing fenders.... It was an MG TC and I was instantly smitten - still am for that matter. Within a few months I found and bought a 1946 TC LHD which I drove all over Europe for a few years. Life intervened until just before my retirement when I decided my retirement present would be another MG TC.... That is until I saw what they were selling for!! Finally, I found a Midget in Dallas that was in fairly good condition, bought it and still have it. Warning.... I'd still trade it even up tomorrow for a TC if I could!! Cheers!! Jim From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Oct 27 11:11:13 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <1435049444.521727.1319735118961.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <377679389.521818.1319735473580.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Born and bred in London.. So I never had anything else but LBC's Dad's first car was a 3-wheel Morgan, then a Ford Prefect. Grandpa and my uncles always had Jags. My first car was a very beat-up 1937 Austin 7, bought in 1959. Then a partially finished Rochdale Olympic on a Ford Anglia chassis - no brakes and shot king-pins! Next came a MG YB (loved the free-wheel control on the dash), a modified Cortina (my first ticket!), a Rally Escort (first time sideways!) Then I got married... it was all downhill after that. Got back into LBC's after my 2nd Divorce. Now I have 3 LBC's and looking at a 4th this weekend -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Oct 27 11:49:03 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: <627769661.521207.1319732813781.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <627769661.521207.1319732813781.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1319737743.32681.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> ???? Aluminum isn't pot metal either. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS My mistake, I thought it was like the MKII/III grill -- made as an Aluminium pressing. -- Dave G KK7SS ----- "Mike MacLean" wrote: > Who says the Bugeye grill is pot metal? I thought it was mild steel. From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Oct 27 11:50:15 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. Message-ID: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I've been day-dreaming gain... When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that had a V4 engine. Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From lmacy at mac.com Thu Oct 27 11:51:04 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:51:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had always been intersted in them. Bought my first when I was about 15. $300 for 2 MGA's (a 59 and a 61) with an unassembled MGB engine. They needed work, I was goijng to make one car out of 2. Did a tn of work on them, never finished them. Found girls and got "distracted" ;-) Sold them when my dad got tied of them being in the garage. Got $300 for them. Bought a 1976 Midget in 1978 with the insurance settlement on my wife's family's house that got flattened in a tornado. We had just sent off the paperwork for it to be sold at 10 AM, at 1:15, there was not a house anymore. So we went to Debver and looked at British Cars, a blue Midget, a brown TR6, a TR4 and an MGB. Went back to the blue Midget. We bought it from an MG dealer for about $1500 as I recall. In 1983 that car fell victim to a short stopping kid in a 69 Plymouth on rain slick streets. Insurance company totaled it. We put in a bid to get it back and found out later we were beat by $5 by the son of the insurance dude. Wonder how that happened. We were living in Gillette, WY at the time and found a 78 Midget on the local Ford dealer lot. It had a SnugTop hard top (I already had one) and they wanted like $2800 for it. I told them I would give them $2300 since that was all it was worth. They said no, I said OK, I'll drive to Denver and get one for $2000 and spend the $300 on a nice hotel and dinner. They took the $2300 ;-). That car was moved from WY, to Arkansas, to PA. It sat for a couple years after we got to PA and then it was my only car for several years. I (with the help of the OSHIT team) just finished a full restore of the car. It was a true body off restoration. We took the body off, slipped another one in it's place and put all the bits back ;-) So that is a total of 4 LBC's over 40 yerars. Larry On Oct 27, 2011, at 06:10 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, > his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and > seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older > brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family > car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I > was hooked ever since. > > So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got > hooked? > > This should be fun to see the replies : ) > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry Perelman School of Medicine University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Oct 27 11:50:22 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:50:22 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? Message-ID: <20111027.115022.19686.0@webmail58.dca.untd.com> My LBC addiction probably harkens all the way before I was born. My mom and dad used to rally in their Singer and did pretty well. Then when dad bought Briggs Cunningham's personal XK120M, things got a bit more serious, including rallying while my mom was pregnant with me. They won a number of national TSD rallys in'57, '58 and '59 in the Jag. Later, after selling the Jag to pay for an Alfa Guilietta Sprint Speciale, my dad did mostly autocross (Gymkhana at the time)with TASC (Taconic Auto Sports Car Club) bringing us kids along as runners until he pioneered a light sensing timing system in '64. I remember wandering through the paddock/pits/whatever looking at the TRs, Jags, A-Hs, etc. One of the members they rallied against had a SIATA, which held a sign saying SIATA in the passengers door pocket to answer any curious drivers. In the 70s my brother went through an MGB that I helped him put a clutch into (subsequently crashed), a TR4A IRS also helped with the clutch on this one, sold for profit!!! In the 90's he and I co-drove a '63 Spitfire with a 1296 in it in RMVR at Steamboat as well as other venues here in CO. My first LBC, strangely enough was the MKII, but the first one that I drove the pants off of was the Spitfire, now I've got the Be AND the MKII on the road!!! When my dad he was wondering why I bought the BE the year after I bought it,I took him out for a ride in it, he hadn't been in a roadster since he sold the Jag, as I pulled back up to the house, he had the biggest grin on his face that I've perhaps ever seen (on him at least)! There were no more questions about WHY, only whether he could drive it, and how hard he should push it!! I'd say that it runs in the family- I was also born into it, Frankie! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4ea99a4c18ba511c9b6ast05duc From kristi74midget at comcast.net Thu Oct 27 12:46:11 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:46:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> I am really not sure how old I was when I first saw an MG, maybe 5 I think. I grew up being my Dad's "Go Fer" as in "Kristi go for that wrench." or "Kristi go for that part" :-) I would have to say that was when the LBC bug got me. I always teased my Dad that when he died I was going to get his Midget and he would always tell me that he was going to get buried in it. Over the years I have always had a love for these crazy cars and my Dad would have me go on rallyes with him. I also remember doing an autocross or two with him, so he has helped keep the love alive within me so that someday I would own my own LBC. When my husband and I first started dating I would always talk about the cars and he figured out that I still love the cars. We got married, had some issues with keeping pregnancies and to help cheer me up he got me mine. He had talked with my Dad and found a local person who was selling their '74 Midget. On our 2 year wedding anniversary, he got my sister-in-law to drive us both to go get the car (all a surprise to me as I had no idea where we were going and why my sister-in-law was driving us). Then after I got Mini Lee I would not let my husband drive her so then he had to get his own. So now we have two LBC's and two daughters who fight over who is going to ride in which Midget with Mom or Dad. Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget Starting the LBC bug in my kids just like my Dad did with me :-) On Oct 27, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Linda Grunthaner asks: > >> So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got >> hooked? >> > > I saw my first BE in about 1960 parked in a neighbors driveway but have to > admit I just thought of it as a funny little car. It was 1965 in England > when walking home from the pub one night a strange looking car loomed out of > the gloom with nothing but running lights and huge wheels and wing > fenders.... It was an MG TC and I was instantly smitten - still am for that > matter. Within a few months I found and bought a 1946 TC LHD which I drove > all over Europe for a few years. Life intervened until just before my > retirement when I decided my retirement present would be another MG TC.... > That is until I saw what they were selling for!! Finally, I found a Midget > in Dallas that was in fairly good condition, bought it and still have it. > Warning.... I'd still trade it even up tomorrow for a TC if I could!! > > Cheers!! > Jim > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kristi74midget at comcast.net From pfeilmat at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 12:58:30 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:58:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <377679389.521818.1319735473580.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <377679389.521818.1319735473580.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <21DD2E75-FCD8-45C8-849D-8A5C1ABCDC9B@gmail.com> I was 10 and saw one modified for off road in an old 4 wheel drive magazine. almost bought a MGB when I turned 16. THen in 1994 I got the 76 Spridget from a friend who coudlnt fix it. Sold it to another friend and then bought a 78 Spridget. Ran that for a while and then bought the 76 back from the friend. Now I am 36 and the only thing I have left that id LBC is a set of valve rods for a 1500. Matt P On Oct 27, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Born and bred in London.. > So I never had anything else but LBC's > Dad's first car was a 3-wheel Morgan, then a Ford Prefect. > Grandpa and my uncles always had Jags. > My first car was a very beat-up 1937 Austin 7, bought in 1959. > Then a partially finished Rochdale Olympic on a Ford Anglia chassis - no brakes and shot king-pins! > Next came a MG YB (loved the free-wheel control on the dash), a modified Cortina (my first ticket!), a Rally Escort (first time sideways!) > > Then I got married... it was all downhill after that. > Got back into LBC's after my 2nd Divorce. > > Now I have 3 LBC's and looking at a 4th this weekend > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From miniac7 at aol.com Thu Oct 27 13:05:37 2011 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question Message-ID: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> I'd like to know if someone can provide me with the serial number (or numbers) for the correct Datsun 5 speed transmission to perform a conversion to a Spridget. I know of one currently available and the serial number on the top of the bell housing is 2520597. Can anyone tell me if this is from a 210 or a B210? Thank you, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini From markwemple at yahoo.com Thu Oct 27 13:15:55 2011 From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] parts hold on to In-Reply-To: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1319742955.40274.YahooMailNeo@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Guys, I have fenders, doors and boot lids that I've been holding on to incase another spridgeteer needed them. Well I'm sick of them taking up all that space and am wonding if I should recycle them. If they have rust, should they just go to the recycler? Mark D. Wemple, Esq. 359 Dun Robbin Drive Severna Park, Maryland 21146 Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410 ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. I've been day-dreaming gain... When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that had a V4 engine. Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/markwemple at yahoo.com From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 13:18:25 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:18:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hop, skip, and jump In-Reply-To: <1319722271.97696.YahooMailNeo@web125704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <893AF0E5FBD143BE83FA837C0C890631@Home> <1319722271.97696.YahooMailNeo@web125704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: O.K. if no one else is going to mention it, have you checked the bushings on the radius arms yet? Hal From lists at dinospider.com Thu Oct 27 13:22:39 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:22:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <20111027.115022.19686.0@webmail58.dca.untd.com> References: <20111027.115022.19686.0@webmail58.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <4EA9AF7F.8000807@dinospider.com> On 10/27/2011 10:50 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > My LBC addiction probably harkens all the way before I was born. > My mom and dad used to rally in their Singer and did pretty well. Then when > dad bought Briggs Cunningham's personal XK120M, things got a bit more serious, > including rallying while my mom was pregnant with me. They won a number of > national TSD rallys in'57, '58 and '59 in the Jag. Later, after selling the > All I need to read is Singer to know I like this guy :) How serious were your parents with the Singer ? The club has a racing/rally history freak that I would love to give your e-mail address to. Heck he may even have pics in his very large collection and might even know where the car is today. mike From rich_ball at mindspring.com Thu Oct 27 13:27:08 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:27:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. References: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <890A1654759E4AEA96731ED4B9EDF621@psych.washington.edu> According to your our friends over at Wikipedia that V4 engine made it over here in the later SAAB Sonett V4 and the Sonett III. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. > I've been day-dreaming gain... > When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that > had a V4 engine. > Did that engine ever make it to the USA? > Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 27 13:30:28 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:30:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03. dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <201110271230442.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> SAABs Melrose and Ford skid loaders The problem is the contractors will pay more for engine parts than the Saab-ers. Well, maybe it's not a problem ;-) PPP ===== At 12:50 PM 10/27/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: >I've been day-dreaming gain... >When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus >that had a V4 engine. >Did that engine ever make it to the USA? >Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 27 14:21:46 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:21:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Saab. From lmacy at mac.com Thu Oct 27 14:48:27 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:48:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> Message-ID: Silly girl, you were 3 when we brought the Blue 76 Midget home in 1978. (BTW, I sent my story a while ago, and I haven't seen it yet.) Larry (Dad) On Oct 27, 2011, at 14:46 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote: > I am really not sure how old I was when I first saw an MG, maybe 5 I think. > I grew up being my Dad's "Go Fer" as in "Kristi go for that wrench." or > "Kristi go for that part" :-) I would have to say that was when the LBC bug > got me. I always teased my Dad that when he died I was going to get his > Midget and he would always tell me that he was going to get buried in it. > > Over the years I have always had a love for these crazy cars and my Dad would > have me go on rallyes with him. I also remember doing an autocross or two > with him, so he has helped keep the love alive within me so that someday I > would own my own LBC. > > When my husband and I first started dating I would always talk about the cars > and he figured out that I still love the cars. We got married, had some > issues with keeping pregnancies and to help cheer me up he got me mine. He > had talked with my Dad and found a local person who was selling their '74 > Midget. On our 2 year wedding anniversary, he got my sister-in-law to drive > us both to go get the car (all a surprise to me as I had no idea where we were > going and why my sister-in-law was driving us). Then after I got Mini Lee I > would not let my husband drive her so then he had to get his own. So now we > have two LBC's and two daughters who fight over who is going to ride in which > Midget with Mom or Dad. > > > > Kristi & Lambert > '74 RWA Midget > '77 RB Midget > > Starting the LBC bug in my kids just like my Dad did with me :-) > > > > > > On Oct 27, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Linda Grunthaner > asks: >> >>> So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got >>> hooked? >>> >> >> I saw my first BE in about 1960 parked in a neighbors driveway but have to >> admit I just thought of it as a funny little car. It was 1965 in England >> when walking home from the pub one night a strange looking car loomed out > of >> the gloom with nothing but running lights and huge wheels and wing >> fenders.... It was an MG TC and I was instantly smitten - still am for > that >> matter. Within a few months I found and bought a 1946 TC LHD which I drove >> all over Europe for a few years. Life intervened until just before my >> retirement when I decided my retirement present would be another MG TC.... >> That is until I saw what they were selling for!! Finally, I found a Midget >> in Dallas that was in fairly good condition, bought it and still have it. >> Warning.... I'd still trade it even up tomorrow for a TC if I could!! >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kristi74midget at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry Perelman School of Medicine University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 o#? - if this is not an Apple icon, you are using the wrong operating system From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 15:24:01 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:24:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question In-Reply-To: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Howard, I'll have to dig through my stuff... Paul A. sent me all the information some years ago in case I decided to go that route at some point.... I just don't know where I buried it ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:05 PM, wrote: > I'd like to know if someone can provide me with the serial number (or > numbers) > for the correct Datsun 5 speed transmission to perform a conversion to a > Spridget. I know of one currently available and the serial number on the > top > of the bell housing is 2520597. Can anyone tell me if this is from a 210 or > a > B210? > > Thank you, > Howard Collins > Virginia Beach, VA. > '60 AH Bugeye Sprite > '68 Austin Mini > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Oct 27 15:24:47 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Chroming Question In-Reply-To: <1319737743.32681.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <432322899.525333.1319750687317.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Jay, > Aluminum isn't pot metal either. Jeez!... I've been around long enough to know that!! Check my comment about my sons Al input manifold getting soft enough to pop inclusion bubbles... at a powder coating temp of 400*FD -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Oct 27 15:28:06 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319750886.16745.YahooMailClassic@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> 1971. I was just out of basic training for the Air Force and my first assignment was Los Angeles Air Force Station working in the mail room. I delivered over 400 secrets a day and learned to sign my name like a doctor because I had to sign so many times a day. There was no barracks at this base, so even the single guys had to live on the local economy and find an apartment near work. This was before the big pay raise by Nixon, so I was only making about $200 a month. We had to live 4 to a single bedroom apartment to afford housing. I really needed a cheap car. One day there was a classified ad in the base newspaper by a captain at the base for a 1959 Austin Healey Sprite. I didn't even know what it was, but he only wanted $150 for it. (oh, for those days again) It was love at first sight, a running Bugeye with a convertible top, tonneau cove and a factory hardtop. I only had $50 with me. (25% of my monthly pay before taxes). The captain said "give me the $50 and you can make payments on payday. He handed over the keys and the rest is history. I made $25 dollar payments for two months and starved during that time to have my first Bugeye. That car taught me all about working on cars and got me all around southern California. Luckily we had an auto hobby shop on base, so I could do all required maintenance myself. I have had six Bugeyes since then. My present car is a 60 which I have had since 1993. It will probably be my last. Maybe. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Thu, 10/27/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? To: "Spridget list" Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 10:10 AM List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I was hooked ever since. So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got hooked? This should be fun to see the replies : ) Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Oct 27 16:10:22 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:10:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question In-Reply-To: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <65F5E85881534309BB7463176CCFB739@blackbox2> Not sure if this helps...it's from Rivergate's website.. "The serial number on top of the bellhousing should begin with the letter "F" (FL, FA, FX etc. OK). The number "60" is cast into the right side of the main case." -----Original Message----- From: miniac7 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:06 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question I'd like to know if someone can provide me with the serial number (or numbers) for the correct Datsun 5 speed transmission to perform a conversion to a Spridget. I know of one currently available and the serial number on the top of the bell housing is 2520597. Can anyone tell me if this is from a 210 or a B210? From millerls at ado13.com Thu Oct 27 16:13:41 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:13:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> On Oct 27, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Macy Larry wrote: > Silly girl, you were 3 when we brought the Blue 76 Midget home in 1978. > > (BTW, I sent my story a while ago, and I haven't seen it yet.) > > Larry (Dad) > I got it Larry.... From gmari2 at verizon.net Thu Oct 27 16:38:38 2011 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (George) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:38:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? Message-ID: <2045486.1726312.1319755118149.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Thu Oct 27 17:05:26 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] parts hold on to In-Reply-To: <1319742955.40274.YahooMailNeo@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1933603324.1625048.1319756726666.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Well Mark, there is rust and there is rust.B If the parts are unretrievably rusted out, probably the recycler would be the proper place for them.B But if it is just surface rust, sell them on the list or put them on ebay, or in some other way get them to someone who needs them.B They aren't making any more of these (please, please, don't count that trash that is B reproduced in the orient) and good bonnets, fenders, doors, and boot lids will become more and more scarce. --David C. "Look to this day, for it is life, the very life of life. In its brief course lie all the realities and verities of existence. The bliss of growth, the splendor of action, the glory of power. And yesterday is but a dream, and tomorrow is only a vision. But today - well lived - makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well, therefore, to this day. ~ Sanskrit proverb ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Wemple" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:15:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] parts hold on to Guys, I have fenders, doors and boot lids that I've been holding on to incase another spridgeteer needed them. Well I'm sick of them taking up all that space and am wonding if I should recycle them. If they have rust, should they just go to the recycler? Mark D. Wemple, Esq. 359 Dun Robbin Drive Severna Park, Maryland 21146 Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410 ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. I've been day-dreaming gain... When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that had a V4 engine. Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. -- Dave G B KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/markwemple at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From neilandcustom at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 17:16:43 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:16:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question In-Reply-To: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62@webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <004f01cc94fe$7f6f5af0$7e4e10d0$@com> This is the paragraph from the Rivergate website that helps to identify what the proper gearbox is. Gerard should chime in if he has other info to share. "The serial number on top of the bellhousing should begin with the letter "F" (FL, FA, FX etc. OK). The number "60" is cast into the right side of the main case. These transmissions come from the Datsun 210, but the model number for these cars, imbedded in the Serial Number, is B310. The model number for the transmission, FS5W60A, is sometimes found on the Serial Number plate on the firewall. This is not found on the transmission." My gearbox has an FL XXXXXXX serial number and "60" cast into the right side as stated above. Hope this helps. Neil Anderson -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of miniac7 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:06 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question I'd like to know if someone can provide me with the serial number (or numbers) for the correct Datsun 5 speed transmission to perform a conversion to a Spridget. I know of one currently available and the serial number on the top of the bell housing is 2520597. Can anyone tell me if this is from a 210 or a B210? Thank you, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/neilandcustom at gmail.com From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Oct 27 18:07:26 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:07:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <2045486.1726312.1319755118149.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> References: <2045486.1726312.1319755118149.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> Message-ID: <1837086510.20111027170726@pacifier.com> Part One. When I was 5 years old, I used to get picked up in a BE and taken to Kindergarten. I didn't realize it until a couple of years ago when I looked into the door openers of one and it was a kind of Deja Vu...... Part Two.. A friend of my older brothers had this car in his garage that he was going to fix up and get running some day. I don't know if he ever did.. (It turned out to be a Jag XK 140), but it looked great standing still and like nothing else I'd seen Part Three... Another friend of my brothers had a running MGTF that he would take me for rides in when I was in Junior High. What a car, and still my favorite "T" series is the F. Part Four.... This friends younger brother picked up a clapped out TR3. We drove the cr$) out of it for a weekend until we blew it up. Never had to slow down for a corner, until the tranny all but locked up on us. Part Five..... Back home from college another friend had a Spitfire. It was actually his wifes. Every month is was fix something, Brakes, Diffy, U-joints... he considered it like a once a month car payment. We would bundle up on clear days with the temp in the 30s, smoke some grass, turn up the tunes and drive...... Part Six...... Stared going to the ABFM in Portland. WOW, now completely smitten I started looking for BE's in the paper. When I mentioned that I was looking at them one of the guys at work said "Why don't you buy my Sprite. My wife says five cars is too many and I have to get rid of one. The Sprite is 95% restored. I'll take between $2k and $3k. We settled at $2500. The speedo bounced, the tach was out, both headlights worked for the first week, then only one, no wiper motor, no heater fan, no working ANY other lights except under the dash. The engine smoked on acceleration, the master cylinder leaked and had to be filled regularly and it was the most fun to drive thing I've ever had. And still have, almost 15 years later. It's now rattle and squeak free, and the only thing that doesn't work is the gas gauge. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" When there's a will, I want to be in it From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 18:37:57 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:37:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Bite Message-ID: I had a baby sitters boy friend whose father bought a new Bugeye for him. . Olde English white with red interior. I was still too short to see over the dash very well. Joe loved to take me for rides in an attempt to scare me. . and he often did. Up and down country roads in the outskirts of Chula Vista Ca. .often in the country area known as Bonita. Previous to the Bugeye gift from his father, Joe owned a hopped up Oldsmobile. But once the LBC bug bit him he was never the same. That and my fascination with college student's cars . . . Brit Sports cars in San Diego growing up by San Diego State College did it for me. Kirk From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 18:47:05 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:47:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <88BB560D-BF3C-4207-91BF-939A82B5D3AD@gmail.com> On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote: > I always teased my Dad that when he died I was going to get his > Midget and he would always tell me that he was going to get buried > in it. And this summer he almost was ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 18:55:31 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:55:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lamenting My 1960 MGA Message-ID: My first was a pristine condition 1960 MGA that I bought in Riverside Ca for a whopping $1,500. . around 1977. The SU's were a delight, easy to adjust and the car ran bullet proof for the two years that I owned it. Our first child was on the way and we were moving to the Bay area for me to get my masters degree. . so like an idiot (I really didn't need to) I sold the car for the same that I paid for it. Later on while living in Marin County near Saucalito having sold my top down MGA became something that I so wish I had never done. One of those things, like passing on a Fender No-Caster for $250.0 that I regret to this day. Or selling a 1971 hard tail Strat for cheap. . having no idea what they would be worth today. Kirk 59 1275 From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 19:16:41 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:16:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Where were you when the LBC bug got you? Message-ID: My first LBC was a MG TC as well, Jim. Bought it in Kansas on the way back from the drag race "Winternationals" in Pomona Ca. Driving my 55 Nomad at the time (God, I should have kept them). The bug bit in high school where my buds and me lived for anything that went fast and was powered by gasoline. Jap bikes were cheap so we were racing "scrambles" when we were juniors. One of those "buds" bought a ratty MGA and along with reading "Road and Track" in study hall we knew that LBC's would go fast in corners instead of just in a straight line like the American cars we were acquainted with. So when I saw the TC in Kansas he and I agreed it had to be bought!! Kurt. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Oct 27 19:24:06 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:24:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <76053E4B-E50F-402B-ADC2-7B5EB3596623@gerardsgarage.com> Howard, The serial number is too long, but there is no way to tell by that number alone anyway. It should begin with a "F" if it is an '80-82 (H pattern) or sometime an "S" if it is a '79 (Rallye/dogleg pattern) .here will also be "60" embossed on the right side behind the bell housing. If you have a pic, forward it to me and I can ID what you have. Gerard On Oct 27, 2011, at 3:13 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:05:37 -0400 (EDT) > From: miniac7 at aol.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Question > Message-ID: <8CE62F28B7D3754-1D18-7AB62 at webmail-d077.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'd like to know if someone can provide me with the serial number > (or numbers) > for the correct Datsun 5 speed transmission to perform a conversion > to a > Spridget. I know of one currently available and the serial number on > the top > of the bell housing is 2520597. Can anyone tell me if this is from a > 210 or a > B210? From herby at herbytoys.com Thu Oct 27 19:59:49 2011 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:59:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <88BB560D-BF3C-4207-91BF-939A82B5D3AD@gmail.com> References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> <88BB560D-BF3C-4207-91BF-939A82B5D3AD@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't remember when I saw my first LBC that got my heart racing. I do remember an interest in a MKII Sprite at an early age. I don't remember exactly why. My first LBC though was an English Ford in the summer of 78. I sold my perfectly fine running though utilitarian 65 Comet (high school grad present) to buy a 68 Cortina Deluxe 2 door with a blown engine (prompting my first engine rebuild as well). Walked/rode the bus to J.C. for almost a year after until I got it running. Drove it like I stole it for only 2 weeks until it was totaled by a lady in an Impala. Didn't get my next real LBC until 1990 when I finally got a MKII Sprite. I actually had a V8 powered MKII in between but I didn't have it long enough to get it running. Herby 62 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy) 00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From lmacy at mac.com Thu Oct 27 20:02:59 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <88BB560D-BF3C-4207-91BF-939A82B5D3AD@gmail.com> References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> <88BB560D-BF3C-4207-91BF-939A82B5D3AD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Smart ass Me On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > > On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote: > >> I always teased my Dad that when he died I was going to get his >> Midget and he would always tell me that he was going to get buried in it. > > And this summer he almost was ;) > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From mark at bradakis.com Thu Oct 27 21:10:21 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:10:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Lamenting My 1960 MGA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EAA1D1D.4010203@bradakis.com> The first I remember driving was a Mark ?? Sprite when I was a freshman in college. We had a large family, my father was partial to various Chrysler station wagons, often with the big block motor. Whoo hoo! But they were huge, sloppy boats that you didn't corner in, you came about. That's the sort of vehicle I learned to drive in. So there I was on a lonely backroad in southern Indiana behind the wheel of this friend's Sprite. Approaching a turn at a goodly clip I prepared to come about, turning in about 100 feet before I needed to do so in a car like that. Yet another case of me staring death in the face and having death blink first. Well, okay, maybe it wasn't *that* close to being a major incident. > > One of those things, like passing on a Fender No-Caster for $250.0 that I > regret to this day. Or selling a 1971 hard tail Strat for cheap. . having > no idea what they would be worth today. > > Every now and then I drag this out. Some years ago my father shipped my old train set out to me in Utah. It had been boxed up long ago, safely cushioned by crumpled newspapers, circa 1973. One sheet just happened to be the automotive classifieds. Here's a few excerpts: 67 Chevelle, 396, 4 spd. $950 '67 Corvette conv. air, power windows, 427, $2,300 Ferrari, 1959 250 GT, 12 cyl. 2 passenger, excel. cond. $4,950 '53 Jag XK120 show car, $3,395 '64 MGB New red paint, new top, luggage rack, very fast, $1,000 '59 MGA, engine good, body needs work $500 '58 Porsche, runs good, $850 '60 Triumph, 4 spd., looks, runs perfect $300 '64 TR4 wire wheels, new paint, tires, $750 '64 TR4 Rebuilt, mech. perfect, new tires, no rust $850 '56 Morgan Plus 4, excel. orig. condition, $3,500 mjb. From shop at justbrits.com Thu Oct 27 21:14:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:14:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EAA1E13.3070708@justbrits.com> << Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Saab. >> I'll cry wid ya, BZ !! Er WAIT, what are we sobbing about ???????? From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Oct 27 21:31:58 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <272856237.331419.1319767403875.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1651349097.332635.1319772718416.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I was about 14 when I went for my first ride in an MGA in the early 1960s. I was totally hooked from that moment, and bought my first MG, a somewhat ratty 1952 TD, about a year later when I turned 15 and had my daylight only license. Mother was, to say the least, not pleased, but was somewhat mollified when she saw that the speedometer stopped at 80. She had always told my brother & I that, if we wanted a car, we would have to buy it ourselves, keep it insured, and take care of our own expenses. I had been driving truck on my uncle's ranch, and circumstances that year allowed him to pay everyone double. It didn't take long for me to learn why 250 pounds of tools were included with the car, but I loved her anyway, even in heaterless north Idaho winters. I have had one or more of the ghastly little beasts ever since. Madge Midget entered my life as a birthday present to myself in December, 1972. I will confess that I bought her mainly to piss off my ex husband who was militant Irish and hated anything British, but she's still here and he isn't, and she's far more reliable, even when she's broken, than he ever was. Kate From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 23:06:33 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:06:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, automotive however. Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oIS5n9Oyzsc -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU.J No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had 100 years ago. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 23:55:24 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:55:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <1319750886.16745.YahooMailClassic@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1319750886.16745.YahooMailClassic@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > This was before the big > pay raise by Nixon, so I was only making about $200 a month. > Lucky SOB!! I remember my first military pay day.... had to sign for a little brown envelope that had a whole $95 in it for the month! And that was 1965! What I would have given for $200 a month... Just thinking of all the beer that would have bought at the Base Exchange.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 00:26:42 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:26:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <08314B0F7C8E48B3ABF598C1E57582DE@user8634b3d69b> References: <08314B0F7C8E48B3ABF598C1E57582DE@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Darn these slow electrons!!! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Too late Herb, Kate got in first!! > > LOL From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 04:03:43 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1319796223.31063.YahooMailClassic@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> the simple answer is "yes". the tanus / vada engine was used by saab starting in 1967. it was also used as a ford stationary compressor motor and some other industrial aplications in north america. it first came in a 1500cc design and later was 1700cc's. personally , i've never owned one only two stroke 3 cylinder saabs as far as saab aplications go. chuck --- On Thu, 10/27/11, Dave KK7SS wrote: From: Dave KK7SS Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 1:50 PM I've been day-dreaming gain... When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that had a V4 engine. Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Oct 28 04:05:49 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:05:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Horler's Book Message-ID: <99272A3A-5EEE-4536-93EC-4BB95FF6DEE9@att.net> Original Sprite and Midget is in print again in hardback. Moss is advertising it for $49.95 Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Oct 28 06:17:33 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:17:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <1319796223.31063.YahooMailClassic@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1319796223.31063.YahooMailClassic@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9C7F53FB-BD7F-429C-A9D1-1E569F8C3625@comcast.net> Yup.. dead reliable but kinda heavy. About the same horsepower and fewer mods available. But if ya want to, there is a guy in New York who has done a lot to them..from 60 -ish hp to over 120 HP. Lester Of course you could buy a complete Spridget for what the engine will cost once modified. Lester On Oct 28, 2011, at 5:03 AM, charles christ wrote: > the simple answer is "yes". the tanus / vada engine was used by saab starting > in 1967. it was also used as a ford stationary compressor motor and some > other industrial aplications in north america. it first came in a 1500cc > design and later was 1700cc's. personally , i've never owned one only two > stroke 3 cylinder saabs as far as saab aplications go. > > chuck > > --- On Thu, 10/27/11, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > From: Dave KK7SS > Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. > To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" > Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 1:50 PM > > > I've been day-dreaming gain... > When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that had a > V4 engine. > Did that engine ever make it to the USA? > Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Oct 28 06:19:37 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:19:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <1319796223.31063.YahooMailClassic@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1292504625.522386.1319737814986.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1319796223.31063.YahooMailClassic@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-4_engine This brought up the V-4's that are used by motorcycles. ...bill in corvallis =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of charles christ Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:04 AM To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] V4 question. the simple answer is "yes". the tanus / vada engine was used by saab starting in 1967. it was also used as a ford stationary compressor motor and some other industrial aplications in north america. it first came in a 1500cc design and later was 1700cc's. personally , i've never owned one only two stroke 3 cylinder saabs as far as saab aplications go. chuck ================================== --- On Thu, 10/27/11, Dave KK7SS wrote: From: Dave KK7SS Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 1:50 PM I've been day-dreaming gain... When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that had a V4 engine. Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From pchast at francomm.com Fri Oct 28 08:20:41 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:20:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <1651349097.332635.1319772718416.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1651349097.332635.1319772718416.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I was 17 and got picked up for work in a MGA. Loved that car. It was 76 before I found a Midget I could afford with the family. The children would ride on the ledge behind our seats around town.. In the Endicott, NY area. From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 08:52:55 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <1319808048.27220.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1319808048.27220.YahooMailNeo@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1319813575.198.YahooMailNeo@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: fastvee To: Linda Grunthaner Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? My friend owned a 64 Sprite while we were in high school which I got to ride in and drive occasionally in the late 60's, but this initial exposure didn't hook me. I was first attracted to VW's, owned many over the years, and tore apart a nice ride to build a PA hill climb car in 1973. I was getting my ass kicked in C/Sedan by several Minis, and met friends who were racing Sprites, and started appreciating their simplicity and how little had to be done to make them race worthy as compared to building a competitive Beetle. The bug that bit me at this time was Formula Vee. Inexpensive, simple, purpose built, 30 car fields, and it wasn't possible for anyone to have a huge mechanical advantage. A true driver's class where you could be competitive on a blue collar wage. Five years later I had the itch to try something else and Bob Griffith put the bug in my ear that he could build a competitive Sprite for road racing in H/Production for $3000, and I found an ex-hill climb 62 Sprite in Hazelton, PA that would be a good start. Well many liberal rules came about during my building phase and it actually cost me $10K before I even had a good set of wheels. I loved driving that Sprite had a successful 5 years competing, but when I wrecked it at the Dureya Hill Climb in 85 it sat for some time while I raced in borrowed vees, and I never repaired it because the cost of racing nationals in a production class was escalating rapidly. I sold the Sprite to head back to F/V but bought a 67 Midget barn find for $300 that I would build for the street. We moved 2005 and I had to set up a new shop which ended my racing but I still had the Midget and put it on a rotisserie for the restoration. I was making progress but decided I needed to have a spridget to drive while I was doing all of this work, and found a nice 74 Midget in Allentown. That was supposed to be it, my shop is only an oversize 2 car garage, and the only cars I wanted were cars that I wouldn't have to tow somewhere and pay entry fees to drive. One day I saw my old Sprite for sale on ebay and all of the logic left me. I had to have it back, bought it sight unseen, and drove to Detroit to retrieve it. It looked good in the pics, like clean it up and build an engine, but was actually much more sheet metal work than the Midget. I now have to shuffle cars around to get anything done but am moving to engine and trans building, so I am setting up a nice space for that. I don't know when I'll be getting much done on the 67 Midget restoration, I've had 6 good years driving my 74 Midget and that is also a work in progress, but I look forward to the day when all three spridgets are finished. Truly smitten. John Fogelsville, PA ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:10 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? List I was just discussing with Kirk about when the LBC bug got you hooked, his was in a VW camper driving past LBC's at San Diego State College and seeing them on campus in the 1960's I don't recall mine perhaps as my older brother called out the American cars while in the back seat of the family car and I saw a MGTD or an MGA and he may have said that is a British car. I was hooked ever since. So what did you see how old were you and what year was it when you got hooked? This should be fun to see the replies : ) Lin _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fastvee at yahoo.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Oct 28 09:34:51 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1961835347.533736.1319816091898.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> RAF, 1958, 2 stripe technician, weekly pay GBP 2.25 (then worth $4.40 approx) --- as you say "in a packet and to be signed for". Plus it was done at "Pay Parade" Aaah... Happy Days ? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Jim Johnson" wrote: > Lucky SOB!! I remember my first military pay day.... had to sign > for a little brown envelope that had a whole $95 in it for the month! > And that was 1965! From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Oct 28 09:49:26 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <9C7F53FB-BD7F-429C-A9D1-1E569F8C3625@comcast.net> Message-ID: <651591701.533946.1319816966566.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I was also looking at the Honda ST1100 as it was shaft drive and not transverse mounted. But, as Lester says, I could probably buy a very nice LBC for what it would eventually cost me. :( -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Lester" wrote: > Of course you could buy a complete Spridget for what the engine will > cost once modified. From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 09:54:02 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:54:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question Message-ID: I found a few possibilities, none close to me but here they are: 1972 Saab Sonett III Parts Car (Sonnet, Sonett) - $300 (Fairfield County) http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/pts/2666315707.html 1974 Saab Sonett For Parts - $750 (Milwaukee) http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/2556644982.html 69 SAAB SONETT SONNET ENGINE LONG BLOCK V4 MOTOR (asking $999 for it) http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-SAAB-SONETT-SONNET-ENGINE-LONG-BLOCK-V4-MOTOR-/200548489990 ENGINE 71 72 73 74 SAAB SONETT REBUILDABLE http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-71-72-73-74-SAAB-SONETT-REBUILDABLE-/150402724279 Saab sonett V4 Parts motor+ Item location: Bethlehem CT, United States U-pull current bid $75 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saab-sonett-V4-Parts-motor-/190592969643 Rick Bastedo ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Ball" Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:27:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] V4 question. According to your our friends over at Wikipedia that V4 engine made it over here in the later SAAB Sonett V4 and the Sonett III. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Oct 28 10:05:18 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, automotive however. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1536899624.534171.1319817918274.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Now you know that Winter is here.... -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "WFO Herb" wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oIS5n9Oyzsc From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 10:34:47 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:34:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It would be pretty cool to see how someone might adapt one of these power plants to our cars. I wonder what you might use for a transmission? This was apparently the power plant from the Ford Taunus (yes that's with an "N"), here's a picture: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-Ford-Taunus-17-M-1-5-1-V-4-Cylinder-Engine-/160146352769 Looking at cars available on Craigslist, sometimes a better bet for parts if they are running: 1957 Ford Taunus 17m coupe - $450 (okc) http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/2672192741.html Portland Oregon 71 saab sonnet - $1250 (inner se port) http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2672853963.html Ashland Oregon Saab Sonnet - $1350 (actually dropped to $1300 now) http://medford.craigslist.org/cto/2624714756.html Chico CA 1971 Saab Sonnet Project Car - $1200 http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2666912114.html 1972 SAAB SONNET III - $1900 (CAMBRIDGE MINNESOTA) http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/ctd/2648280697.html SAAB Sonnet 1972 - $1200 (West Caldwell, NJ) http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2669521974.html Rick Bastedo __________________________________ On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I found a few possibilities, none close to me but here they are: > > 1972 Saab Sonett III Parts Car (Sonnet, Sonett) - $300 (Fairfield County) > http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/pts/2666315707.html > > 1974 Saab Sonett For Parts - $750 (Milwaukee) > http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/2556644982.html > > 69 SAAB SONETT SONNET ENGINE LONG BLOCK V4 MOTOR (asking $999 for it) > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-SAAB-SONETT-SONNET-ENGINE-LONG-BLOCK-V4-MOTOR-/200548489990 > > ENGINE 71 72 73 74 SAAB SONETT REBUILDABLE > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-71-72-73-74-SAAB-SONETT-REBUILDABLE-/150402724279 > > Saab sonett V4 Parts motor+ > Item location: Bethlehem CT, United States > U-pull current bid $75 > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saab-sonett-V4-Parts-motor-/190592969643 > > Rick Bastedo > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > From: "Richard Ball" > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:27:08 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] V4 question. > > According to your our friends over at Wikipedia that V4 engine made it over > here in the later SAAB Sonett V4 and the Sonett III. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Oct 28 11:05:14 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:05:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <651591701.533946.1319816966566.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <651591701.533946.1319816966566.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <254E1130FC9E4BD6ADA1619B0F75C7B1@Home> We have a lot of jetskis around here. Has anyone checked the size of the big jetski engines for fit? Michael Rowe From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Oct 28 11:15:32 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1273441636.339047.1319822132572.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> You should see me behind the wheel. I'm even faster there. Kate '72 Midget (Yes, MGs really DO go that fast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Spridgets" , "Kirk Hargreaves" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Darn these slow electrons!!! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Too late Herb, Kate got in first!! > > LOL Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Oct 28 11:31:59 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <975288607.535464.1319823119642.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Rick, I appreciate your efforts but have decided to abandon than line of thinking.. And I thought it was interesting that the listing (below) was using a picture of a V6!! I suppose I better just get on with what I've got... sigh! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Rick Bastedo" wrote: > > ENGINE 71 72 73 74 SAAB SONETT REBUILDABLE > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-71-72-73-74-SAAB-SONETT-REBUILDABLE-/150402724279 From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 28 12:41:29 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fibreglas nose FS WI Message-ID: <201110281141672.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/pts/2601663402.html NFI NFC Peter C From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 28 13:09:03 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question In-Reply-To: <975288607.535464.1319823119642.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.d lls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <975288607.535464.1319823119642.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <201110281209609.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 12:31 PM 10/28/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: >Rick, > >I appreciate your efforts but have decided to abandon than line of thinking.. > >And I thought it was interesting that the listing (below) was using >a picture of a V6!! +++++++++++ Now yer thinkin' The German Capri V6 can be used in place of the V4..... honest... I seen it. Makes a great ice racer. Hand me my beer ... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 13:46:07 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:46:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fibreglas nose FS WI In-Reply-To: <201110281141672.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110281141672.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Snow! There is yucky SNOW on the ground there... ED On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > http://minneapolis.craigslist.**org/hnp/pts/2601663402.html > > NFI NFC > > Peter C From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 13:46:33 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:46:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: <254E1130FC9E4BD6ADA1619B0F75C7B1@Home> References: <651591701.533946.1319816966566.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <254E1130FC9E4BD6ADA1619B0F75C7B1@Home> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: We have a lot of jetskis around here. Has anyone checked the size of the big jetski engines for fit? ------------------------------------------------------- Kawasaki uses a modified Ninja engine in their skis... Seems it would be easier to use a straightup motorcycle engine with a shaft drive. Especially because they would probably be in better shape to begin with. Jet skis are usually run full open ALL the time! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 13:48:07 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question In-Reply-To: <975288607.535464.1319823119642.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <975288607.535464.1319823119642.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1319831287.74895.YahooMailNeo@web112706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I was looking on ebay under MG Midget and saw a Midget open wheal race car V4. It was a cut in half small block Chev motor. ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] V4 question Rick, I appreciate your efforts but have decided to abandon than line of thinking.. And I thought it was interesting that the listing (below) was using a picture of a V6!! I suppose I better just get on with what I've got... sigh! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Rick Bastedo" wrote: > > ENGINE 71 72 73 74 SAAB SONETT REBUILDABLE > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-71-72-73-74-SAAB-SONETT-REBUILDABLE-/150402724 279 _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Oct 28 14:02:09 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fibreglas nose FS WI In-Reply-To: <201110281141672.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201110281141672.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <1319832129.23589.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> This one isn't fiberglass but pretty nice nonetheless http://tinyurl.com/3jsvo3j NFI jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 2:41:29 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Fibreglas nose FS WI http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/pts/2601663402.html NFI NFC From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Oct 28 14:10:44 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. Message-ID: <60e81.2b935f04.3bdc6643@aol.com> That engine had a reputation for being pretty rotten and one to stay away from. In a message dated 27/10/2011 20:02:46 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at frontier.com writes: I've been day-dreaming gain... When I was working in RSA my colleague Tim had a '68(?) Ford Taunus that had a V4 engine. Did that engine ever make it to the USA? Would make an ideal transplant for a spridget. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 15:17:33 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:17:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question In-Reply-To: <201110281209609.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <975288607.535464.1319823119642.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <201110281209609.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I've seen a picture of a midget with a capri v6 set in the engine bay. It looked like a nice fit. The guy decided not to proceed with the swap. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 12:31 PM 10/28/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: > >> Rick, >> >> I appreciate your efforts but have decided to abandon than line of >> thinking.. >> >> And I thought it was interesting that the listing (below) was using a >> picture of a V6!! >> > +++++++++++ > Now yer thinkin' The German Capri V6 can be used in place of the V4..... > honest... I seen it. Makes a great ice racer. Hand me my beer ... > ______________________________**_________________ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Oct 28 16:04:34 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:04:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question In-Reply-To: <1319831287.74895.YahooMailNeo@web112706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <975288607.535464.1319823119642.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1319831287.74895.YahooMailNeo@web112706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B149EA998B44E429A0DE2ACE45FEE16@spider> Shades of Mickey Thompson. "Based on a 96-inch-wheelbase production Dragmaster chassis covered with a one piece fully streamlined aluminum body by Jim Burrell, this car was designed to challenge National and international speed records in the standing start mile and kilometer distances. The engine was a sleeved and destroked Tempest designed to fit in international class E (1500-2000 cc91.5-122cu in). On July 9, 1961 at March AFB near Riverside, Thompson used four cars and five engines to break 14 of a possible 18 records, some dating back to 1930. This car broke both the National and International records in both distances. Pontiac Four-Cylinder Tempest (circa 1961). Pontiac created the four cylinder engine for its new compact car, the Tempest, in 1960. Literally the right bank of a Pontiac V8, the engine displaced 194 cubic inches in stock form. Mickey Thompson created several engines of differing displacements for various classes." >From http://tinyurl.com/3wjzyk2 He was setting drag strip records in Classes that hadn't been challenged for years (Ford Model B engine with a Model C crank; Riley Red Head ohv) He also cut his 4-cylinder in half (2-cylinder) to set records in a lower displacement class. http://tinyurl.com/3bo6cng There was even a rumor of a one-cylinder but I don't find it with Google. ...bill in corvallis ========================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bug Eye Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:48 PM To: Dave KK7SS; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] V4 question I was looking on ebay under MG Midget and saw a Midget open wheal race car V4. It was a cut in half small block Chev motor. ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] V4 question Rick, I appreciate your efforts but have decided to abandon than line of thinking.. And I thought it was interesting that the listing (below) was using a picture of a V6!! I suppose I better just get on with what I've got... sigh! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Oct 28 18:02:40 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:02:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? Message-ID: The most snow will likely hit the Massachusetts Berkshires, the Litchfield Hills in northwestern Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire and the southern Green Mountains. Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy warned residents that they could lose power. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 18:37:34 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Racing in the '60s Message-ID: <1319848654.4134.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I'm really drawn to the '50s and early '60s era of amateur sports racing where guys drove their cars to the track, removed the bumpers, taped up the headlights and went out racing. By the time I started going to races in the late 60s, those days were over. By then, even amateurs had some kind of trailer for their racer. Although pretty grainy, here's a vid of Canadian racing back in the day. Lots of great bugeye shots and other cool cars, including a new E-Type being tracked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUIUSPamCmQ Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 18:38:39 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <1273441636.339047.1319822132572.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1319848719.77857.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I preferred the girls that were faster in the back seat. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 10/28/11, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: From: kgb at frontiernet.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build To: Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 1:15 PM You should see me behind the wheel. I'm even faster there. Kate '72 Midget (Yes, MGs really DO go that fast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Spridgets" , "Kirk Hargreaves" Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Darn these slow electrons!!! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Too late Herb, Kate got in first!! > > LOL Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Oct 28 19:00:40 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1319850040.8164.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> This is so unfair. I just get my Nasty Boy on the road and now I have to drag my tire chains out of the trunk? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 10/28/11, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: From: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 8:02 PM The most snow will likely hit the Massachusetts Berkshires, the Litchfield Hills in northwestern Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire and the southern Green Mountains. Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy warned residents that they could lose power. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 19:10:44 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:10:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A2C8483-40A5-4DBE-A266-208AD2D53463@gmail.com> We have a National Weather Service forecast for 5 to 9 inches of snow here (Tuscarora, Pa) for Saturday and an additional 2 to 4 inches for Saturday night. Another local weather forecaster said 8 to 12 inches during the day tomorrow and an additional 6 tomorrow night.......... It's October....... The grandsons will be using sled to go trick-or- treating........... Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Oct 28, 2011, at 8:02 PM, wrote: > The most snow will likely hit the Massachusetts Berkshires, the > Litchfield > Hills in northwestern Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire and the > southern Green Mountains. Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy warned > residents > that they could lose power. From jwagaman1 at comcast.net Fri Oct 28 19:20:01 2011 From: jwagaman1 at comcast.net (jwagaman1 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:20:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget body panels Message-ID: <90A79DC4200D4BB5965254578B76D712@JeffWagamanPC> Anyone have any recommendations for 73 Midget rear panels? Victoria British does not carry that year? Do you recommend mig welder for this work? Anyone ever try the welding and cutting oxyacetylene torch Henrob 2000 also known as DHC 2000? Jeff 61 bugeye (project) 72 MG Midget (parts car) 73 MG Midget (project) From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Oct 28 19:47:24 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <1319848719.77857.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <740374666.345710.1319852844673.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> My Spridget doesn't have a back seat. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:38:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build I preferred the girls that were faster in the back seat. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 10/28/11, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: From: kgb at frontiernet.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build To: Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 1:15 PM You should see me behind the wheel. I'm even faster there. Kate '72 Midget (Yes, MGs really DO go that fast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" < froggi60 at gmail.com > To: "Guy R Day" < grday at btinternet.com > Cc: "Spridgets" < spridgets at autox.team.net >, "Kirk Hargreaves" < khargreaves2 at gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Darn these slow electrons!!! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Guy R Day < grday at btinternet.com > wrote: > Too late Herb, Kate got in first!! > > LOL Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Oct 28 20:23:57 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:23:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <740374666.345710.1319852844673.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1319848719.77857.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <740374666.345710.1319852844673.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8DB6E02858154DAF9A3DC4C05F4C13E4@spider> Buy a 1953 Desoto for those 'special' occasions; works better if you put a suitcase on the floor. :-) ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgb at frontiernet.net Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 6:47 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build My Spridget doesn't have a back seat. Kate =============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:38:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build I preferred the girls that were faster in the back seat. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 10/28/11, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: From: kgb at frontiernet.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build To: Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 1:15 PM You should see me behind the wheel. I'm even faster there. Kate '72 Midget (Yes, MGs really DO go that fast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" < froggi60 at gmail.com > To: "Guy R Day" < grday at btinternet.com > Cc: "Spridgets" < spridgets at autox.team.net >, "Kirk Hargreaves" < khargreaves2 at gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Darn these slow electrons!!! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Guy R Day < grday at btinternet.com > wrote: > Too late Herb, Kate got in first!! > > LOL Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Oct 28 20:43:52 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:43:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: <1A2C8483-40A5-4DBE-A266-208AD2D53463@gmail.com> References: <1A2C8483-40A5-4DBE-A266-208AD2D53463@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57813.173.146.162.167.1319856232.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Holy cow, Kevin! Did you put chains on the Sprite? We're getting rain here in s. WI. All Jim Johnson's fault! ed > We have a National Weather Service forecast for 5 to 9 inches of snow > here (Tuscarora, Pa) for Saturday and an additional 2 to 4 inches for > Saturday night. > > Another local weather forecaster said 8 to 12 inches during the day > tomorrow and an additional 6 tomorrow night.......... > > It's October....... The grandsons will be using sled to go trick-or- > treating........... > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa > > > > > On Oct 28, 2011, at 8:02 PM, > wrote: > >> The most snow will likely hit the Massachusetts Berkshires, the >> Litchfield >> Hills in northwestern Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire and the >> southern Green Mountains. Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy warned >> residents >> that they could lose power. From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Oct 28 21:25:12 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Message-ID: <1319858712.65281.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To a guy that is only academic. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" My Spridget doesn't have a back seat. From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Oct 28 21:49:40 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <8DB6E02858154DAF9A3DC4C05F4C13E4@spider> Message-ID: <1709231889.346731.1319860180554.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I much prefer the looks of the 1959. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:23:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Buy a 1953 Desoto for those 'special' occasions; works better if you put a suitcase on the floor. :-) ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgb at frontiernet.net Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 6:47 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build My Spridget doesn't have a back seat. Kate =============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:38:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build I preferred the girls that were faster in the back seat. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 10/28/11, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: From: kgb at frontiernet.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build To: Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 1:15 PM You should see me behind the wheel. I'm even faster there. Kate '72 Midget (Yes, MGs really DO go that fast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" < froggi60 at gmail.com > To: "Guy R Day" < grday at btinternet.com > Cc: "Spridgets" < spridgets at autox.team.net >, "Kirk Hargreaves" < khargreaves2 at gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build Darn these slow electrons!!! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Guy R Day < grday at btinternet.com > wrote: > Too late Herb, Kate got in first!! > > LOL Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Oct 28 22:46:56 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:46:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Build In-Reply-To: <1319858712.65281.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1319858712.65281.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here here! Lester Fiat X19 was the worst! Especially when ya couldn't get the sunroof off... On Oct 28, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Jay wrote: > To a guy that is only academic. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" > > > My Spridget doesn't have a back seat. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 23:25:58 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:25:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: <57813.173.146.162.167.1319856232.squirrel@wm.wi.net> References: <1A2C8483-40A5-4DBE-A266-208AD2D53463@gmail.com> <57813.173.146.162.167.1319856232.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Message-ID: Sure. When the weather stinks, just blame me. However, when the weather is great nobody says, "Thank you, Jim"! You guys just want a scape goat for when things don't work to your advantage... ;-) Cheers!! Weatherman Jim On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:43 PM, wrote: > Holy cow, Kevin! Did you put chains on the Sprite? We're getting rain > here in s. WI. All Jim Johnson's fault! > > ed > > > > > We have a National Weather Service forecast for 5 to 9 inches of snow > > here (Tuscarora, Pa) for Saturday and an additional 2 to 4 inches for > > Saturday night. > > > > Another local weather forecaster said 8 to 12 inches during the day > > tomorrow and an additional 6 tomorrow night.......... > > > > It's October....... The grandsons will be using sled to go trick-or- > > treating........... > > > > Kevin V. > > Tuscarora, Pa > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 28, 2011, at 8:02 PM, > > wrote: > > > >> The most snow will likely hit the Massachusetts Berkshires, the > >> Litchfield > >> Hills in northwestern Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire and the > >> southern Green Mountains. Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy warned > >> residents > >> that they could lose power. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 01:43:17 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:43:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Daughter in Harrisonburg, VA texted me saying they have 4-5 inches. Power's out; tree fell taking out a transformer. Sucks...just came home with a one day old daughter!!! Herb On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:02 PM, wrote: > The most snow will likely hit the Massachusetts Berkshires, the Litchfield > Hills in northwestern Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire and the > southern Green Mountains. Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy warned > residents > that they could lose power. > _______________________ From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Oct 29 07:12:19 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:12:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: References: <1A2C8483-40A5-4DBE-A266-208AD2D53463@gmail.com> <57813.173.146.162.167.1319856232.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Message-ID: <491035379.20111029061219@pacifier.com> Hello Jim, > Sure. When the weather stinks, just blame me. However, when > the weather is great nobody says, "Thank you, Jim"! You guys just want a scape goat for > when things don't work to your advantage... ;-) It's really simple and you're just trying to obfuscate the point. When the weather stinks, it IS your fault. No doubt that you brought it on. But when the weather is nice, you obviously had nothing to do with it as it is out of your control. .... Kind of like the president and the economy, no matter who's in office. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "That horse looks like a good bet at 17 to 1," said Tom oddly. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 09:22:45 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 10:22:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: References: <1A2C8483-40A5-4DBE-A266-208AD2D53463@gmail.com> <57813.173.146.162.167.1319856232.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Message-ID: The weather is nice here in Mexico.... MUCHAS GRACIAS JAIME!! On Oct 29, 2011 1:15 AM, "Jim Johnson" wrote: Sure. When the weather stinks, just blame me. However, when the weather is great nobody says, "Thank you, Jim"! You guys just want a scape goat for when things don't work to your advantage... ;-) Cheers!! Weatherman Jim On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:43 PM, wrote: > Holy cow, Kevin! Did you put chains o... > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com Suggested a... From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sat Oct 29 09:37:12 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget body panels In-Reply-To: <90A79DC4200D4BB5965254578B76D712@JeffWagamanPC> Message-ID: <460553482.1698436.1319902632705.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Haven't tried the oxyacetyline, but the mig welder is suited for the job in that you can dial up or down how hot you want to weld.B The oxyacteylene seems to me to be somewhat less forgiving, but then, I haven't tried it so I may be wrong.B Whatever you use, if you haven't welded before, B I would recommend getting some scrap body parts of the same metal and practice, practice, practice before you go to the real body panel.B It's not really hard, just requires that you get your technique just right.B B I would also recommend (highly) one of those instant darkening welder's helmets, as they allow you to see what you are doing right up to striking the arc. --David C. "Look to this day, for it is life, the very life of life. In its brief course lie all the realities and verities of existence. The bliss of growth, the splendor of action, the glory of power. And yesterday is but a dream, and tomorrow is only a vision. But today - well lived - makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well, therefore, to this day. ~ Sanskrit proverb ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: jwagaman1 at comcast.net To: "Spridget" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:20:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget body panels Anyone have any recommendations for 73 Midget rear panels? Victoria British does not carry that year? Do you recommend mig welder for this work? Anyone ever try the welding and cutting oxyacetylene torch Henrob 2000 also known as DHC 2000? Jeff 61 bugeye (project) 72 MG Midget (parts car) 73 MG Midget (project) Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From fastvee at yahoo.com Sat Oct 29 10:52:29 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget body panels In-Reply-To: <90A79DC4200D4BB5965254578B76D712@JeffWagamanPC> References: <90A79DC4200D4BB5965254578B76D712@JeffWagamanPC> Message-ID: <1319907149.93532.YahooMailNeo@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I never tried the Henrob, but used to do all of my welding with an oxy-acetylene torch. It will never be as nice as TIG welding, but with a small aircraft torch, a selection of small tips, and heat dam compound you can do a very nice job on panel work. Besides stick welding that's all the body shops had for many years. With a torch you have excellent heat control and can play with the puddle, i.e. slowing down or increasing the forward travel as needed, and you have the ability to handle gaps. Somethings you can't do with TIG on light gauges, and your equipment costs a fraction of the cheapest TIG machine. Having said all that, for what a complete gas setup will cost you could buy a small MIG welder. They are so convenient, but you get the most versatility from an oxy-acetylene rig. John Fogelsville, PA To: Spridget Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget body panels Anyone have any recommendations for 73 Midget rear panels? Victoria British does not carry that year? Do you recommend mig welder for this work? Anyone ever try the welding and cutting oxyacetylene torch Henrob 2000 also known as DHC 2000? Jeff From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 11:16:19 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:16:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget body panels In-Reply-To: <90A79DC4200D4BB5965254578B76D712@JeffWagamanPC> References: <90A79DC4200D4BB5965254578B76D712@JeffWagamanPC> Message-ID: MIG is by far the easiest. Oxy/Acetylene is not too hard. Many times old wire coat hangers make good rods for fixing old car bodies. With any welding the key is practice. I can make good welds by the end of a project. When the next project comes around there is a re-acquaintance period before the welds look their best. Practice on scraps of what you will be working on first, then do the actual work. When doing body panels heat is the enemy. Heat will warp the panel around the weld area. From ah3000me at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 11:50:48 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:50:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thursday night five inches of snow fell here in the Sunapee region of NH. It was mostly gone by Friday, leaving the deadly white veneer of road salt everywhere. I think the 2011 driving season has come to a close. The past 5 years I've been able to drive thru November while living in ME and NH. Rats!! - Tom On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, wrote: > The most snow will likely hit the Massachusetts Berkshires, the Litchfield > Hills in northwestern Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire and the > southern Green Mountains. Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy warned > residents > that they could lose power. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah3000me at gmail.com From swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Oct 29 14:56:14 2011 From: swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk (G & J Swann-Price) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 21:56:14 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> <8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> Message-ID: <30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> I was in the 2nd year of junior school so it would have been 1962 and I must have been about 9 years old, one of the teachers occasionally gave me lifts home in his 59 frogeye. Later my brother bought an Austin A35 which he often referred to as his '4 seater Sprite'. Then 11 years later in 1973 when at Bath University, a cousin gave me a drive in his frogeye around some welsh lanes. This stirred fond memories and I decided that if ever I was going to own one I would have to do it then before I got married, had kids and needed a sensible car! So I bought a 67 Mk IV Sprite. I got married in 1977 had two kids and now a granddaughter and I still have the Sprite! So the Sprite is the oldest member of my family and my wife and I still have adventures in it. The latest was a coast to coast tour of the Pyrenees which was breath-taking. Geri. From lists at woozy.com Sat Oct 29 15:59:29 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:59:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> Message-ID: <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> Hi All, Replaced the float seats & needles and finally the car is running well enough to drive it. I put over 50 miles on it today and as I was pulling back into my driveway the turn signal, heater fan, gas gauge and tach all stopped working. I checked the fuses and none of them are blown. I remember something like this happening once or twice before but can't remember what the fix was. If anyone has any ideas I'd appreciate hearing them. One other thing, I can't get the car to idle at the recommended 800 - 1000 RPM. With the idle adjuster screws close to all the way out it idles around 1500 RPM. I noticed that the idle will drop way down if I remove the oil cap. Then I noticed that there is no PCV valve in the hose that comes off the carbs to the crankcase breather. Would installing a PCV valve help bring down the idle? If so does anyone know what PCV from a modern car would work if I can't find one of the original PCV valves? Thanks, Robert From grday at btinternet.com Sat Oct 29 16:37:13 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:37:13 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget body panels References: <460553482.1698436.1319902632705.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Except for plastic when I use an electric soldering iron, I use oxy-acetylene for doing all welding and heavy duty cutting and find it no problem on car body thickness metal. However, I do use welding rods rather than coat hangers (I like that idea!) but have used the cutting torch head for lots of heat (my biggest welding nozzle is a size 13) and a broken gear lever as a rod when welding a thick metal bracket to a girder. I find the oxy is also good for providing heat to loosen parts up - or cut them off if truly solid. Guy R Day From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 16:39:58 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:39:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> Message-ID: High idle indicates vacuum leaks. Try to wiggle the intake as well, as a loose intake can cause problems. As far as the gas gauge, fan, tach issue, pull all the wires off your fuse box, one at a time, and put them back on. One of them is just corroded, and shutting it all down. I had the same issue with our 68, gas gauge and tach would stop working, and within 90 seconds, the car would die. The fuel pump was also in that circuit. I found the loose spade connector on the fuse box, and gave it a slight crimp with some pliers, so it would hold tighter, and so far, knock on wood (hits head) it is working fine. HTH Brad On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Robert Weeks wrote: > Hi All, > > Replaced the float seats & needles and finally the car is running well > enough to drive it. I put over 50 miles on it today and as I was pulling > back into my driveway the turn signal, heater fan, gas gauge and tach all > stopped working. I checked the fuses and none of them are blown. I remember > something like this happening once or twice before but can't remember what > the fix was. If anyone has any ideas I'd appreciate hearing them. > > One other thing, I can't get the car to idle at the recommended 800 - 1000 > RPM. With the idle adjuster screws close to all the way out it idles around > 1500 RPM. I noticed that the idle will drop way down if I remove the oil > cap. Then I noticed that there is no PCV valve in the hose that comes off > the carbs to the crankcase breather. Would installing a PCV valve help bring > down the idle? If so does anyone know what PCV from a modern car would work > if I can't find one of the original PCV valves? > > Thanks, > > Robert > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/tequila.**brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From peter at nosimport.com Sat Oct 29 17:14:01 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> Message-ID: <201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Robert, I've seen a rash, rash I tell you, of fast idle screws screwed in too far yielding a fast idle! It's the screw on the backside of the throttle linkage. Peter C ---- At 04:59 PM 10/29/2011, Robert Weeks wrote: >Hi All, >One other thing, I can't get the car to idle at the recommended 800 >- 1000 RPM. With the idle adjuster screws close to all the way out >it idles around 1500 RPM. I noticed that the idle will drop way down >if I remove the oil cap. Then I noticed that there is no PCV valve >in the hose that comes off the carbs to the crankcase breather. >Would installing a PCV valve help bring down the idle? If so does >anyone know what PCV from a modern car would work if I can't find >one of the original PCV valves? > >Thanks, > >Robert From lists at woozy.com Sat Oct 29 17:26:52 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:26:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> <201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4EAC8BBC.3050108@woozy.com> Thanks Peter, The fast idle screws are all the way out. The only way I can get the idle down is to disconnect the hose to the crankcase breather or open the oil filler cap. If I do either of those the idle drops way down. Robert On 10/29/2011 7:14 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Robert, > I've seen a rash, rash I tell you, of fast idle screws screwed in > too far yielding a fast idle! It's the screw on the backside of the > throttle linkage. > Peter C From lists at woozy.com Sat Oct 29 17:30:14 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:30:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> Message-ID: <4EAC8C86.6030002@woozy.com> Thanks Brad, Double-checked and the intake is tight. Checked all the connections at the fusebox and voltage regulator but no joy. Luckily the engine doesn't die. The fuel pump must be on a different circuit. I have to drive it tomorrow to bring it to be wayoyled. Hopefully it will make the trip there and back. Robert On 10/29/2011 6:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > High idle indicates vacuum leaks. Try to wiggle the intake as well, as > a loose intake can cause problems. As far as the gas gauge, fan, tach > issue, pull all the wires off your fuse box, one at a time, and put > them back on. One of them is just corroded, and shutting it all down. > I had the same issue with our 68, gas gauge and tach would stop > working, and within 90 seconds, the car would die. The fuel pump was > also in that circuit. I found the loose spade connector on the fuse > box, and gave it a slight crimp with some pliers, so it would hold > tighter, and so far, knock on wood (hits head) it is working fine. > > HTH > Brad From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Oct 29 17:30:30 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:30:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net><8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> <30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> Message-ID: Born into it. Youngest in a family with three older brothers who were somehow bitten by the bug. Around the late 70's/early 80s there were 3 Bugeyes, a few Triumph GT6s and later a Lotus Europa that my eldest brother had brought back from Germany after serving in the army. One Bugeye remained in pieces...a phoenix arised from the ashes. From lists at woozy.com Sat Oct 29 18:00:56 2011 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:00:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> <201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4EAC93B8.1010209@woozy.com> Electrical problem solved for now. The fuses appeared fine to the eye but when I tested them one was bad. Replaced that fuse and now I have turn signals, heater motor, etc... Thanks, Robert From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sat Oct 29 18:43:02 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:43:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <4EAC8C86.6030002@woozy.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com> <4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com> <4EAC8C86.6030002@woozy.com> Message-ID: <201110300043.p9U0hNVo009362@mail.usimperio.com> Your electrical issue might be a bad fuse connection. Make sure those connections are clean and tight. Check for voltage on both sides of the fuse, after the fuse not on the fuse ends. Dave At 07:30 PM 10/29/2011, you wrote: >Thanks Brad, > >Double-checked and the intake is tight. Checked all the connections >at the fusebox and voltage regulator but no joy. Luckily the engine >doesn't die. The fuel pump must be on a different circuit. I have to >drive it tomorrow to bring it to be wayoyled. Hopefully it will make >the trip there and back. > >Robert > >On 10/29/2011 6:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: >>High idle indicates vacuum leaks. Try to wiggle the intake as well, >>as a loose intake can cause problems. As far as the gas gauge, fan, >>tach issue, pull all the wires off your fuse box, one at a time, >>and put them back on. One of them is just corroded, and shutting it >>all down. I had the same issue with our 68, gas gauge and tach >>would stop working, and within 90 seconds, the car would die. The >>fuel pump was also in that circuit. I found the loose spade >>connector on the fuse box, and gave it a slight crimp with some >>pliers, so it would hold tighter, and so far, knock on wood (hits >>head) it is working fine. >> >>HTH >>Brad From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Oct 29 19:01:06 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:01:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <4EAC93B8.1010209@woozy.com> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com><4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com> <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com><201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4EAC93B8.1010209@woozy.com> Message-ID: <409D170382254F83BC43755DFA871D76@spider> You might get some small jumper cables at Radio Shack. These are thin wire connecting two alligator clips. A good emergency fix on a dark night. ...bill in corvallis ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:01 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question Electrical problem solved for now. The fuses appeared fine to the eye but when I tested them one was bad. Replaced that fuse and now I have turn signals, heater motor, etc... Thanks, Robert _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 19:30:54 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:30:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> <8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> <30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> Message-ID: > One Bugeye remained in pieces... Man, I miss Frank. I will always regret not getting to meet him in person. From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Oct 29 19:56:50 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:56:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <409D170382254F83BC43755DFA871D76@spider> References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com><4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com>, <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com><201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, <4EAC93B8.1010209@woozy.com>, <409D170382254F83BC43755DFA871D76@spider> Message-ID: To go one step further- Go to Radio Shack, buy an inline fuse (or better still a 5 to 10 amp circuit breaker) and bond alligator clips to each end. It is just a little safer. BillM > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:01:06 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question > > You might get some small jumper cables at Radio Shack. > These are thin wire connecting two alligator clips. > A good emergency fix on a dark night. ...bill in corvallis > ====================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:01 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question > > Electrical problem solved for now. The fuses appeared fine to the eye > but when I tested them one was bad. Replaced that fuse and now I have > turn signals, heater motor, etc... > > Thanks, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Oct 29 21:04:36 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:04:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net><8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com><30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> Message-ID: <97AE9A2FA0254D2A8D4D76CA94608CA6@blackbox2> It's all those old dang bicycles he fixed up that hurt me so much. At a time in my life that I'd expected to see more of him and not less. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:31 PM To: Dean Hedin Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? > One Bugeye remained in pieces... Man, I miss Frank. I will always regret not getting to meet him in person. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 23:34:16 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 00:34:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: <97AE9A2FA0254D2A8D4D76CA94608CA6@blackbox2> References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> <8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> <30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> <97AE9A2FA0254D2A8D4D76CA94608CA6@blackbox2> Message-ID: I've a strong feeling that Frank is still with us - he just doesn't need a computer to post anymore. Every time I go down to the garage and put in a little work on the Midget I can sorta feeling him looking over my shoulder. Call me crazy or overly sentimental or whatever, I'm pretty sure the good Lord has assigned him the position of "Angel of Spridgets". Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > It's all those old dang bicycles he fixed up that hurt me so much. > At a time in my life that I'd expected to see more of him and not less. > > -----Original Message----- > From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:31 PM > To: Dean Hedin > Cc: Spridget list > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? > > > One Bugeye remained in pieces... > > Man, I miss Frank. > I will always regret not getting to meet him in person. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Oct 30 05:42:54 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:42:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> <8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> <30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> <97AE9A2FA0254D2A8D4D76CA94608CA6@blackbox2> Message-ID: > I've a strong feeling that Frank is still with us - I keep the last personal note he sent to me at the top of my Inbox. Michael Rowe From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Oct 30 06:24:56 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:24:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? In-Reply-To: References: <28EF0D44-8C85-4DB3-91AD-EECB125F893F@comcast.net> <8FDF7FA7-75FC-4717-A34B-C953109FA9AC@ado13.com> <30D7A4695DDA48D5ABEB30145322FBB5@TINY2> <97AE9A2FA0254D2A8D4D76CA94608CA6@blackbox2> Message-ID: <744D5D94-9AC7-464D-B4FC-6FBD0046AE3B@comcast.net> hmm..so not being able to bleed the hydraulics using silicone fluid is Frank's way of letting me know to go back to good ol' Dot 4?? Lester On Oct 30, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I've a strong feeling that Frank is still with us - he just doesn't need a > computer to post anymore. Every time I go down to the garage and put in a > little work on the Midget I can sorta feeling him looking over my shoulder. > Call me crazy or overly sentimental or whatever, I'm pretty sure the good > Lord has assigned him the position of "Angel of Spridgets". > > Cheers!! > Jim From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 08:13:01 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:13:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I know this is OFF TOPIC (bitchers and whiners DELETE NOW), but it is TOO damned funny not to share Message-ID: The 5 Toughest Questions a Woman Can Ask a Man The questions are: What are you thinking about? Do you love me? Do I look fat? Do you think she is prettier than me? What would you do if I died? What makes these questions so difficult is that every one is guaranteed to explode into a major argument if the man answers incorrectly (I.e tells the truth). Therefore, as a public service, each question is analyzed below, along with possible responses. ********* Question # 1: What are you thinking about? The proper answer to this, of course, is: "I'm sorry if I've been pensive, dear. I was just reflecting on what a warm, wonderful, thoughtful, caring, intelligent woman you are, and how lucky I am to have met you." This response obviously bears no resemblance to the true answer, which most likely is one of the following: Baseball. Football. How fat you are. How much prettier she is than you. How I would spend the insurance money if you died. (Perhaps the best response to this question was offered by Al Bundy, who once told Peg, "If I wanted you to know what I was thinking, I would be talking to you!") ********* Question # 2: Do you love me? The proper response is: "YES!" or, if you feel a more detailed answer is in order, "Yes, dear." Inappropriate responses include: I suppose so. Would it make you feel better if I said yes? That depends on what you mean by love. Does it matter? Who, me? ********* Question # 3: Do I look fat? The correct answer is an emphatic: "Of course not!" Among the incorrect answers are: Compared to what? I wouldn't call you fat, but you're not exactly thin. A little extra weight looks good on you. I've seen fatter. Could you repeat the question? I was just thinking about how I would spend the insurance money if you died. ********* Question # 4: Do you think she's prettier than me? Once again, the proper response is an emphatic: "Of course not!" Incorrect responses include: Yes, but you have a better personality Not prettier, but definitely thinner Not as pretty as you, when you were her age Define 'pretty' Could you repeat the question? I was just thinking about how I would spend the insurance money if you died. ********* Question #5: What would you do if I died? A definite no-win question. (The real answer, or course, is "Buy a Corvette.") No matter how you answer this, be prepared for at least an hour of follow-up questions, usually along the these lines: ********* She....Would you get married again? He.....Definitely not! She....Why not - don't you like being married? He.....Of course I do. She....Then why wouldn't you remarry? He.....Okay, I'd get married again. She....You would? (With a hurtful look on her face) He.....Yes, I would. She....Would you sleep with her in our bed? He.....Where else would we sleep? She....Would you put away my pictures, and replace them with pictures of her? He.....That would seem like the proper thing to do. She....And would you let her use my golf clubs? He.....She can't use them; she's left-handed. -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Oct 30 08:27:45 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:27:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: References: <20111024.085300.818.0@webmail53.dca.untd.com><4EA5F5C0.9040603@woozy.com>, <4EAC7741.7060401@woozy.com><201110291614417.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, <4EAC93B8.1010209@woozy.com>, <409D170382254F83BC43755DFA871D76@spider> Message-ID: <768474B487B24620B7C2E6B328FE8683@spider> My thought with the jumper alligator wire clips was to jump across the fuse to see if that one was the problem. Some fuses are hard to get out of there; the contacts are even harder to clean off. NAPA has a Circuit Breaker fuse that fits buss fuse clips. The two I use are 30-amp CB 6326. The beauty is that they reset, after a bit, if you're dealing with a REAL short beyond the fuse. My 1969 Datsun pickup is prone to this. =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Masquelier Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:57 PM To: spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question To go one step further- Go to Radio Shack, buy an inline fuse (or better still a 5 to 10 amp circuit breaker) and bond alligator clips to each end. It is just a little safer. BillM > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:01:06 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question > > You might get some small jumper cables at Radio Shack. > These are thin wire connecting two alligator clips. > A good emergency fix on a dark night. ...bill in corvallis > ====================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:01 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question > > Electrical problem solved for now. The fuses appeared fine to the eye > but when I tested them one was bad. Replaced that fuse and now I have > turn signals, heater motor, etc... > > Thanks, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 30 12:33:20 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <934325841.552515.1320002547211.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Dear Aunty List, As you can see from my signature, I already have four cars and am looking at an MGB-GT. But that's not the point! My two older boys copy their old dad (Me - no comments please!) when it comes to cars! One of them in particular, has a Honda Odyssey (wifeys), a 350Z twin-turbo with T-tops (His) and a much modified Ford Probe (originally for his 3 girls but now probably destined for Autocross) So yesterday, he found another of his "wants" --- a 1987 280Z, good body, runs but needs the interior redone,for $500, that he wants to restore "at some time in the future" Here's my dilemna.. His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote "too many cars" unquote. So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' him the money so he can say that I bought it! Should I say Yes or No! She's not a bad daughter-in-law and I don't want her mad at me!! PS if it was a LBC I'd automatically say 'yes' -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 30 13:33:13 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Running rough - Now electrical question In-Reply-To: <768474B487B24620B7C2E6B328FE8683@spider> Message-ID: <68007457.553078.1320006793061.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Couldn't find one under that number,,, but found this. http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=BK_7823110_0006522027 Is it the same? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > NAPA has a Circuit Breaker fuse that fits buss fuse clips. The two I > use are 30-amp CB 6326. From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Oct 30 13:33:39 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <195551545.361826.1320006819449.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Would she be mad at you if YOU bought another car as a project for you and your son to work on together? Keep the papers in your name until she gets used to having it around, then announce that you've sort of lost interest and decided to give it to your son. He should be able to borrow $500 from his lunch money to pay you back while the two of you are having your bonding sessions. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 12:33:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. Dear Aunty List, As you can see from my signature, I already have four cars and am looking at an MGB-GT. But that's not the point! My two older boys copy their old dad (Me - no comments please!) when it comes to cars! One of them in particular, has a Honda Odyssey (wifeys), a 350Z twin-turbo with T-tops (His) and a much modified Ford Probe (originally for his 3 girls but now probably destined for Autocross) So yesterday, he found another of his "wants" --- a 1987 280Z, good body, runs but needs the interior redone,for $500, that he wants to restore "at some time in the future" Here's my dilemna.. His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote "too many cars" unquote. So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' him the money so he can say that I bought it! Should I say Yes or No! She's not a bad daughter-in-law and I don't want her mad at me!! PS if it was a LBC I'd automatically say 'yes' -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 14:17:40 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:17:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <195551545.361826.1320006819449.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <195551545.361826.1320006819449.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Kate may have the best answer here. But this begs the question, "If a man is alone in the forest and he says something, is he still wrong?" Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, wrote: > Would she be mad at you if YOU bought another car as a project for you and > your son to work on together? Keep the papers in your name until she gets > used to having it around, then announce that you've sort of lost interest > and decided to give it to your son. He should be able to borrow $500 from > his lunch money to pay you back while the two of you are having your > bonding sessions. > > Kate > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave KK7SS" > To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 12:33:20 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. > > Dear Aunty List, > > As you can see from my signature, I already have four cars and am looking > at an MGB-GT. > But that's not the point! > My two older boys copy their old dad (Me - no comments please!) when it > comes to cars! > > One of them in particular, has a Honda Odyssey (wifeys), a 350Z twin-turbo > with T-tops (His) and a much modified Ford Probe (originally for his 3 > girls but now probably destined for Autocross) > > So yesterday, he found another of his "wants" --- a 1987 280Z, good body, > runs but needs the interior redone,for $500, that he wants to restore "at > some time in the future" > > Here's my dilemna.. > His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote "too many cars" unquote. > So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' him the money so he can say > that I bought it! > > Should I say Yes or No! > She's not a bad daughter-in-law and I don't want her mad at me!! > > PS if it was a LBC I'd automatically say 'yes' > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Yup. I stay plenty busy!! bmwwxman at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 14:34:03 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. Message-ID: <1320010443.21193.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Dave, So you came to this list for some unbiased advice? Might as well go to the "Wives of LBC Owners Forum" (perhaps should be the "Spouses of LBC Owners Forum) for equally neutral advice. Of course we're going to tell you to give the kid the 5 bills. Look at it this way, that would be bail money if he were camping out at "Occupy Seattle". Instead he wants to do something useful. How's he going to learn to hide car related purchases from his spouse if you don't help him? Although it looks like the kid's got good instincts so far! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 10/30/11, Dave KK7SS wrote: From: Dave KK7SS Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Date: Sunday, October 30, 2011, 3:33 PM Dear Aunty List, As you can see from my signature, I already have four cars and am looking at an MGB-GT. But that's not the point! My two older boys copy their old dad (Me - no comments please!) when it comes to cars! One of them in particular, has a Honda Odyssey (wifeys), a 350Z twin-turbo with T-tops (His) and a much modified Ford Probe (originally for his 3 girls but now probably destined for Autocross) So yesterday, he found another of his "wants" --- a 1987 280Z, good body, runs but needs the interior redone,for $500, that he wants to restore "at some time in the future" Here's my dilemna.. His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote "too many cars" unquote. So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' him the money so he can say that I bought it! Should I say Yes or No! She's not a bad daughter-in-law and I don't want her mad at me!! PS if it was a LBC I'd automatically say 'yes' -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sun Oct 30 15:14:45 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:14:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <934325841.552515.1320002547211.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <004501cc9751$54aa3dd0$fdfeb970$@austin.rr.com> It is time to tell the son to "Grow a pair." He needs to work it out with his wife. If you want to help him fix up the car, that is good bonding. Lend him the money if you want to. However, he needs to be open with his wife. She shouldn't be setting rules and he shouldn't be hiding things from her (unless it is a cute 18yo honey :-) ). If she is dumb enough to believe that you just happen to want the same car her son does, denial in not just a river in Egypt. Jim (with 14 cars in the driveway and garage with wife's consent) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:33 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. Dear Aunty List, As you can see from my signature, I already have four cars and am looking at an MGB-GT. But that's not the point! My two older boys copy their old dad (Me - no comments please!) when it comes to cars! One of them in particular, has a Honda Odyssey (wifeys), a 350Z twin-turbo with T-tops (His) and a much modified Ford Probe (originally for his 3 girls but now probably destined for Autocross) So yesterday, he found another of his "wants" --- a 1987 280Z, good body, runs but needs the interior redone,for $500, that he wants to restore "at some time in the future" Here's my dilemna.. His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote "too many cars" unquote. So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' him the money so he can say that I bought it! Should I say Yes or No! She's not a bad daughter-in-law and I don't want her mad at me!! PS if it was a LBC I'd automatically say 'yes' -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 15:34:39 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1320014079.76919.YahooMailClassic@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In the words of Keith Stone ,,, Always! Or the man's prayer from the Possum Lodge on the Red Green show: "I'm a man, but I can change, If I have to, I guess" Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 10/30/11, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. To: Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Date: Sunday, October 30, 2011, 5:17 PM Kate may have the best answer here. But this begs the question, "If a man is alone in the forest and he says something, is he still wrong?" From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 30 16:13:58 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <934325841.552515.1320002547211.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1320016438.23207.YahooMailNeo@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave, I'm gonna gracefully bow out of this one since I'm now twice-divorced and have always had a toy car or two (or three or so, plus the occasional bikes, ATV's etc.) around the house. Maybe not a good source of advice for your son. On the other hand, my 16 year old son told me recently that he wants to find and build a '53-56 F100 for his "first car", so I must be doing something right! David Booker Long Island From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 17:26:59 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:26:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <934325841.552515.1320002547211.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: Here's my dilemna.. His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote "too many cars" unquote. So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' him the money so he can say that I bought it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Time to teach him the facts of life: Women are never happy with what they have and especially what you have... In order to keep my wife from being pi$$ed about something real and possibly important, I always have a POS in the driveway for her to be upset about. That way I can promise that I'll do something with it and she gets off my case for a while! Eventually I do something about it and then she's happy for a spell. When she starts on something else, ie, paint the house, cut the grass, fix the fence, etc., I bring home another Trojan horse for her to be mad about. Works every time! A matter of deflection is all that it is. Keeps them away from the things that would cause real problems in a relationship. -- Kent 1979 Wife (32 years and counting on #1) 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 30 17:59:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. End of thread! In-Reply-To: <2132785064.555622.1320022399055.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <407623356.555726.1320022763525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Folks... thanks for the advice... I passed it on He bought it! The engine stopped running and the pwners' son couldn't figure out why. The Uncle (owner) had moved to Kalifornia (1978 280Z -- smog issues?) The Niece (a nurse) didn't want it, so they sold it! Body excellent - no rust or major dinghs, Mechanicals in good Condition ... interior needs some TLC. I asked him "Did wifey agree?" He said "No! But she grudgingly acquiesced" She gets a new dining room table ! And a stroke of luck... I still have my CD of the workshop manuals for a 1978 280Z in searchable pdf format..,. Serendipity -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "CosmicMag1380" wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Dave KK7SS > wrote: > > Here's my dilemna.. His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote > > "too many cars" unquote. So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' > > him the money so he can say that I bought it! From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Sun Oct 30 18:15:18 2011 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Philip Jones) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:15:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where were you when the LBC bug got you? Message-ID: <000601cc976a$8df80130$a9e80390$@comcast.net> Well before I was born, in the early 50's, my Dad raced an MG TD in southern California (along with my future uncle, who had a MG TC). My dad traded up to a Kurtis (with, I think, a Buick V8), but then got married to a lovely young lady and no longer had the time or money to go racing. (Ever heard of that before?). By the time I came along, this history was just that - history - although that same uncle evidently gave us rides around the La Jolla area in his gold bugeye when I was very small (I swear I don't remember that!). When I was attending college in Bellingham, WA, I'd walk to school taking different routes. One day I was walking down an alley and saw a red MG Midget in an open detached garage, covered in a thick layer of dust. Examining it a little more closely, I saw that all four tires and the top had been slashed (vandalized). I thought "what the heck!" and put a note on the windshield, asking if they'd like to get rid of it, along with my phone #. Well, I got a call a couple days later; I was able to talk my dad into co-signing for the loan. The previous owner put new tires and a top on it; washed it up, and we toasted with Aquavit when I went to pick it up with a young lady of my own acquaintance. It was so much fun! Even when we had heavy snow in Bellingham, I'd just accelerate into the drifts, and the car would slide on it's belly through to the other side (and no, I never got stuck!). I drove it for four years, until it broke a clutch spring, rendering me clutchless. I pulled the engine and the transmission, detected the problem, and thought I'd pop the head off, as long as the engine was out. Well, the head needed to be done, and so, as long as it was out . . . . and so I became acquainted with shipwright's disease. 17 years later, after moving 5 times with the car in boxes, and the body stored on it's side in a succession of basements and garages, I finally got it back together. It's beautiful now; but I still need to complete that last 5% to make it fun and comfortable. It's only got about 500 miles in the past 6 years. I want to get there, but I have a wife and kid, and it's taking forever. Right now I'm just trying to keep it from deteriorating further; but I am looking forward to making it a reliable (and hopefully frequent) driver. I'm inspired by all my local Spridget friends! Here's a picture of it, along with a couple friends: http://tinyurl.com/3rg4x27 From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Oct 30 18:45:03 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:45:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. End of thread! In-Reply-To: <407623356.555726.1320022763525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <407623356.555726.1320022763525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <6DB77DC6-7881-469A-B55A-26669F925910@chartermi.net> LOL. "She gets a new dining room table". When I came home with the $500 '79 Party Midget my wife got a new couch for the living room. Rick '59 & '61 Sprites '79 Party Midget Sent from my keyboard On Oct 30, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Folks... thanks for the advice... I passed it on > > He bought it! The engine stopped running and the pwners' son couldn't figure out why. The Uncle (owner) had moved to Kalifornia (1978 280Z -- smog issues?) > The Niece (a nurse) didn't want it, so they sold it! > Body excellent - no rust or major dinghs, Mechanicals in good Condition ... interior needs some TLC. > > I asked him "Did wifey agree?" > He said "No! But she grudgingly acquiesced" > She gets a new dining room table ! > > And a stroke of luck... I still have my CD of the workshop manuals for a 1978 280Z in searchable pdf format..,. Serendipity > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| > '65 Sprite - running :) > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Oct 30 21:31:44 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] SU H1 Choke mechanism problem. Message-ID: <222911468.557441.1320035504307.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I originally sent this to the Morris list as that is what I was working. I thought that it might also be of interest to the Spridgets list. ------- I was having problems getting the choke mechanism on the H1 to operate smoothly, it would stick at odd places. I did a thorough cleaning with Carb Cleaner, follow by a quick spray of Kroil.... it was still hard to move and the jet tube was sticking. I had a can of Royal Purple Max-Chain that we used on my pals chainsaw and on my recumbent bike. It dries to a wax-like finish and doesn't seem to collect as much dirt and dust. Sprayed it around the bars, springs,links and jet tube. It now works like a charm - smooth as a baby's bum! Just thought I'd mention it NFI, yada, yada. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 22:33:43 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:33:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Girl on bike.. u can hear her hit the pole! In-Reply-To: <1319998023.66759.YahooMailClassic@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1319998023.66759.YahooMailClassic@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in America today than we had 100 years ago. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 02_splash_emoticon_03b_en.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of girlonbike.wmv] From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 22:23:39 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:23:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <934325841.552515.1320002547211.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <447864516.552609.1320003200577.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: GOOD LUCK! Wouldn't it be a great surprise if you and Son restored it for HER.... From mark at bradakis.com Mon Oct 31 00:07:50 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:07:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Girl on bike.. u can hear her hit the pole! In-Reply-To: References: <1319998023.66759.YahooMailClassic@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EAE4946.2010006@bradakis.com> Remember, no attachments on Team.Net email - you need to post to the forums [ link below ] to share such stuff. mjb. From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Oct 31 01:03:28 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <743299961.366879.1320048153210.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1157197101.366883.1320048208480.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> A wife who drives a mini van probably would not appreciate a sporty car. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Dave KK7SS" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 10:23:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. GOOD LUCK! Wouldn't it be a great surprise if you and Son restored it for HER.... Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 05:44:15 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:44:15 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <1157197101.366883.1320048208480.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <743299961.366879.1320048153210.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1157197101.366883.1320048208480.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Kate, let me provide a nuance to your comment. My wife is perfectly happy driving her minivan or SUV she also has likes driving my Peugeot 505 turbo because it handles better. Same comment about Mini Copper S. She just has no interest in driving the bugeye or Elise. However, she also has no problem with my interest in cars and has agreed to add an additional garage at some point in the future (pending a few more $$). Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:03:28 Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. A wife who drives a mini van probably would not appreciate a sporty car. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Dave KK7SS" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 10:23:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. GOOD LUCK! Wouldn't it be a great surprise if you and Son restored it for HER.... Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 06:00:31 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:00:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <1157197101.366883.1320048208480.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <743299961.366879.1320048153210.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1157197101.366883.1320048208480.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Or might resent that her husband gets to drive sporty cars. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:03 AM, wrote: > A wife who drives a mini van probably would not appreciate a sporty car. > > Kate From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Oct 31 07:21:06 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:21:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. In-Reply-To: <20111031133328.274FA187934@autox.team.net> References: <743299961.366879.1320048153210.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1157197101.366883.1320048208480.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <20111031133328.274FA187934@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8F6BE4FE-4D75-4BB9-B91F-0B3A6772FFBC@comcast.net> Kinda the same comment here.. my wife put up with the "Mommie" van for close to 20 years.. as soon as possible she went with something "sporty".. after two years of looking she came up with a Miata. ;-) Lester On Oct 31, 2011, at 7:44 AM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > Kate, let me provide a nuance to your comment. My wife is perfectly happy driving her minivan or SUV she also has likes driving my Peugeot 505 turbo because it handles better. Same comment about Mini Copper S. She just has no interest in driving the bugeye or Elise. However, she also has no problem with my interest in cars and has agreed to add an additional garage at some point in the future (pending a few more $$). > > Steve > Sent from me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: kgb at frontiernet.net > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:03:28 > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. > > A wife who drives a mini van probably would not appreciate a sporty car. > > Kate > > > > > - From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon Oct 31 08:07:52 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:07:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Girl on bike.. u can hear her hit the pole! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20111031150752.ZWC98.151553.root@cdptpa-web15-z02> 3 paragraphs of disclaimers and no actual message content? I ran into a car on my bicycle a couple of years ago. The people playing tennis at the nearby country club heard it and ran out to see what the noise was. It knocked me completely out and I have no knowledge or memory of what happened. My head went through the back window of the car, it cut half of my face off, knocked out a tooth and broke my back. My bicycle is a couple of feet shorter than it was. I woke up being loaded into an ambulance and spent 3 days in the hospital. ---- WFO Herb wrote: > -- > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, > biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees > that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of > Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in > America today than we had 100 years ago. From lmacy at mac.com Mon Oct 31 08:45:48 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:45:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Walk to Defeat ALS is this Saturday!! Message-ID: <49E57A05-A99D-4593-AFD4-70931C51B87C@mac.com> I do this to honor the memory of my children's mother, Janet Fellow Spridgeteers, Thanks to all whom have already sponsored me. I am very thankful to have your support in this. I am excited to participate in this years Walk. In November, I will be participating in The ALS Association's Greater Philadelphia Walk to Defeat ALS.. I have recently accepted the challenge to raise funds to help the Association accelerate the discovery of the cause and cure of Lou Gehrig's Disease, and to provide programs and services that are so desperately needed by ALS patients and their families. Imagine: as you are busy with your career, your family, and your community responsibilities, you become unable to speak well. You fall inexplicably. You have trouble picking up papers or using a pen. You tire very easily. You seek medical counsel, but are given no satisfactory answers. If you can imagine this, then you start to understand the beginnings of ALS, or Lou Gehrig's Disease. Unfortunately, the beginning is the best part of the struggle with ALS. It gets much worse. Relatively quickly - usually within two years - the patient becomes unable to speak, to move, to swallow. Finally, the patient becomes unable to breathe. Most patients die within five years. Yet, through it all, for the vast majority of patients, their minds remain unaffected. Essentially the ALS patient's mind is trapped inside a helpless body. My hope is to be one of the top fundraising participants and bring many friends and family with us on Walk Day! To do this, I need your support therefore I am asking you to support my Walk team by making a gift or by walking with me. It is faster and easier than ever to support this great cause by making your tax-deductible donation online using the link below. Simply click on the link below to visit my personal fundraising page and donate directly online or join me as a Walk participant. You may also choose to send your contribution in the form of a check. Please make all checks payable to The ALS Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter and send them to me at the following address: Larry Macy 729 Barclay Ave Morrisville, PA, 19067 You can also send donations directly to The ALS Association at 321 Norristown Road, Suite 260, Ambler, PA 19002. When sending to the office, please include a note that says the money is for the Greater Philadelphia Walk team (insert team name here) and for me as the walker. Thank you again for supporting me in the fight against ALS. I appreciate your generosity and participation and will continue to update you with my progress as Walk Day nears. Sincerely, Larry Follow This Link to visit my personal web page and help me in my efforts to support ALS Association Greater Philadelphia Chapter ***************************************************************************** * Some email systems do not support the use of links and therefore this link may not appear to work. If so, copy and paste the following into your browser: http://walk.kintera.org/faf/r.asp?t=4&i=464067&u=464067-251091391&e=507091244 2 ***************************************************************************** * Larry Macy -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller From pelliott at innercite.com Mon Oct 31 09:14:25 2011 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:14:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Girl on bike.. u can hear her hit the pole! In-Reply-To: <20111031150752.ZWC98.151553.root@cdptpa-web15-z02> References: <20111031150752.ZWC98.151553.root@cdptpa-web15-z02> Message-ID: <006201cc97e8$29c0f4a0$7d42dde0$@com> That's what happens when you're looking at girls playing tennis instead of where you're going.. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 8:08 AM To: Spridgeteers Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Girl on bike.. u can hear her hit the pole! 3 paragraphs of disclaimers and no actual message content? I ran into a car on my bicycle a couple of years ago. The people playing tennis at the nearby country club heard it and ran out to see what the noise was. It knocked me completely out and I have no knowledge or memory of what happened. My head went through the back window of the car, it cut half of my face off, knocked out a tooth and broke my back. My bicycle is a couple of feet shorter than it was. I woke up being loaded into an ambulance and spent 3 days in the hospital. ---- WFO Herb wrote: > -- > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > NOTICE: It is okay to print this email. Paper is a plentiful, > biodegradable, renewable, recyclable, sustainable product made from trees > that supports our economy by providing jobs and income for millions of > Americans. Thanks to improved forest management, we have more trees in > America today than we had 100 years ago. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pelliott at innercite.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon Oct 31 10:11:21 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:11:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Girl on bike.. u can hear her hit the pole! In-Reply-To: <006201cc97e8$29c0f4a0$7d42dde0$@com> Message-ID: <20111031171122.AYM7V.20123.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> You can't see into the tennis courts from the road. From where I was to the tennis courts is about 100 yards, and the tennis courts are shielded by a solid fence. The point was that they heard the impact all the way over there and came running. I don't know what I was looking at because I have no memory of it. The girl that was driving STOPPED IN THE ROAD so she could LOOK AT HER GPS, at least that is what she told other people at the scene. > That's what happens when you're looking at girls playing tennis instead of > where you're going.. From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Oct 31 10:43:00 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:43:00 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? Message-ID: <20111031.114300.10274.0@webmail58.dca.untd.com> I was up at 5 am on Wednesday to plow 14" of snow so that we could get to work. Little did I know that there was a rock slide in the canyon, so driving to work was really out of the question until after ~10am. Spent the day feeding the woodstove and trimming around an octagonal window and watching another 6"-10" fall throughout the day. Welcome to winter! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Thursday night five inches of snow fell here in the Sunapee region of NH. It was mostly gone by Friday, leaving the deadly white veneer of road salt everywhere. I think the 2011 driving season has come to a close. The past 5 years I've been able to drive thru November while living in ME and NH. Rats!! - Tom ____________________________________________________________ 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4eaede8777da112f4ce4st04duc From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 31 11:32:18 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? In-Reply-To: <20111031.114300.10274.0@webmail58.dca.untd.com> References: <20111031.114300.10274.0@webmail58.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1320085938.55219.YahooMailNeo@web160811.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I used to ask that question!! Now, I'm still driving! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Mark Haynes To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NE - are you winterized? I was up at 5 am on Wednesday to plow 14" of snow so that we could get to work. Little did I know that there was a rock slide in the canyon, so driving to work was really out of the question until after ~10am. Spent the day feeding the woodstove and trimming around an octagonal window and watching another 6"-10" fall throughout the day. Welcome to winter! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Thursday night five inches of snow fell here in the Sunapee region of NH. It was mostly gone by Friday, leaving the deadly white veneer of road salt everywhere. I think the 2011 driving season has come to a close. The past 5 years I've been able to drive thru November while living in ME and NH. Rats!! - Tom ____________________________________________________________ 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4eaede8777da112f4ce4st04duc _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 13:03:10 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:03:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. Message-ID: Au Contraire... My dear better half drives a 6000 pound "mini" van around all the time however she loves my LBC's and loves to drive them. It's a whole 'nuther thing. When she's in the van she's taxi cab mom, when she's in the little car she's sporty mom!! Rick (that's why we have two of them) Bastedo From: kgb at frontiernet.net Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. A wife who drives a mini van probably would not appreciate a sporty car. Kate From lbcs at embarqmail.com Mon Oct 31 16:23:35 2011 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller - LBCs) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:23:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Walk to Defeat ALS is this Saturday!! In-Reply-To: <49E57A05-A99D-4593-AFD4-70931C51B87C@mac.com> References: <49E57A05-A99D-4593-AFD4-70931C51B87C@mac.com> Message-ID: <001c01cc9824$1e18fb20$5a4af160$@embarqmail.com> Larry, I lost my mother to this horribly cruel disease. She last only two years from the date she was diagnosed. From perfectly healthy to dead to in 24 months. I miss her every day. I just recently participated in the Indianapolis Walk to D'Feat ALS, without a team, but in honor of Mom. I would be honored to contribute to you in memory of Janet. Bill Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Macy Larry Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:46 AM To: Spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] The Walk to Defeat ALS is this Saturday!! I do this to honor the memory of my children's mother, Janet Fellow Spridgeteers, Thanks to all whom have already sponsored me. I am very thankful to have your support in this. I am excited to participate in this years Walk. In November, I will be participating in The ALS Association's Greater Philadelphia Walk to Defeat ALS.. I have recently accepted the challenge to raise funds to help the Association accelerate the discovery of the cause and cure of Lou Gehrig's Disease, and to provide programs and services that are so desperately needed by ALS patients and their families. Imagine: as you are busy with your career, your family, and your community responsibilities, you become unable to speak well. You fall inexplicably. You have trouble picking up papers or using a pen. You tire very easily. You seek medical counsel, but are given no satisfactory answers. If you can imagine this, then you start to understand the beginnings of ALS, or Lou Gehrig's Disease. Unfortunately, the beginning is the best part of the struggle with ALS. It gets much worse. Relatively quickly - usually within two years - the patient becomes unable to speak, to move, to swallow. Finally, the patient becomes unable to breathe. Most patients die within five years. Yet, through it all, for the vast majority of patients, their minds remain unaffected. Essentially the ALS patient's mind is trapped inside a helpless body. My hope is to be one of the top fundraising participants and bring many friends and family with us on Walk Day! To do this, I need your support therefore I am asking you to support my Walk team by making a gift or by walking with me. It is faster and easier than ever to support this great cause by making your tax-deductible donation online using the link below. Simply click on the link below to visit my personal fundraising page and donate directly online or join me as a Walk participant. You may also choose to send your contribution in the form of a check. Please make all checks payable to The ALS Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter and send them to me at the following address: Larry Macy 729 Barclay Ave Morrisville, PA, 19067 You can also send donations directly to The ALS Association at 321 Norristown Road, Suite 260, Ambler, PA 19002. When sending to the office, please include a note that says the money is for the Greater Philadelphia Walk team (insert team name here) and for me as the walker. Thank you again for supporting me in the fight against ALS. I appreciate your generosity and participation and will continue to update you with my progress as Walk Day nears. Sincerely, Larry Follow This Link to visit my personal web page and help me in my efforts to support ALS Association Greater Philadelphia Chapter **************************************************************************** * * Some email systems do not support the use of links and therefore this link may not appear to work. If so, copy and paste the following into your browser: http://walk.kintera.org/faf/r.asp?t=4&i=464067&u=464067-251091391&e=50709124 4 2 **************************************************************************** * * Larry Macy From billgilroy at live.com Mon Oct 31 18:45:40 2011 From: billgilroy at live.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:45:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V4 question. In-Reply-To: References: <651591701.533946.1319816966566.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><254E1130FC9E4BD6ADA1619B0F75C7B1@Home> Message-ID: You want one of these, http://www.motusmotorcycles.com/kmv4.html It is basically 1/2 of the a Chevy LS engine. They put one in a Manx for testing. They will be shipping it as a crate engine in 2012. -g -----Original Message----- From: CosmicMag1380 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:46 PM To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] V4 question. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: We have a lot of jetskis around here. Has anyone checked the size of the big jetski engines for fit? ------------------------------------------------------- Kawasaki uses a modified Ninja engine in their skis... Seems it would be easier to use a straightup motorcycle engine with a shaft drive. Especially because they would probably be in better shape to begin with. Jet skis are usually run full open ALL the time! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billgilroy at live.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 19:14:37 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:14:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster Message-ID: I think Mini is expanding the lineup way too much. The first car had great looks and balance. Many of the recent ones just look cluncky, at least to me. http://www.gizmag.com/mini-roadster/20324/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=68e2f7816d-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email Steve 59 bugeye - getting ready for winter storage, hopefully one more nice weekend to drive arouind 02 Mini S - Still in Pittsburgh with my son. From lmacy at mac.com Mon Oct 31 19:34:17 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:34:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a Clubman S and I love it, but I fail to see the need for a "Roadster" when they have a convertible already. And I fail to see what the hell the Countryman is really supposed to be. Larry On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > I think Mini is expanding the lineup way too much. The first car had great > looks and balance. Many of the recent ones just look cluncky, at least to > me. > > > http://www.gizmag.com/mini-roadster/20324/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=68e2f7816d-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email > > Steve > > 59 bugeye - getting ready for winter storage, hopefully one more nice > weekend to drive arouind > 02 Mini S - Still in Pittsburgh with my son. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. - Edgar Allen Poe From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Oct 31 19:52:05 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 02:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <861288510.571779.1320115925269.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Ugly! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Steven Guterman" wrote: > http://www.gizmag.com/mini-roadster/20324/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=68e2f7816d-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Oct 31 20:34:03 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1320118443.19801.YahooMailRC@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Whether you like the car or not (and I don't), the Countryman is to appeal to someone wanting a vehicle in the MINI family with more room. IMO, the Coupe and now this additional roadster are unnecessary. For me, the appeal of the MINI was that it is sporty, a gas to drive, and is practical, i.e. has a back seat and room to transport what I need to carry with me around town or on a trip. Of course, if I had the need for a vehicle to transport everything I own, everywhere I go, it wouldn't fit that same definition of "practical". jay ________________________________ From: Larry Macy I have a Clubman S and I love it, but I fail to see the need for a "Roadster" when they have a convertible already. And I fail to see what the hell the Countryman is really supposed to be. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Oct 31 20:52:20 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:52:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <666EFA77E58545BE904997CC1D9786ED@blackbox2> I though it looked pretty good. Even with the top up... http://www.gizmag.com/mini-roadster/20324/picture/146156/ What's wrong with more choices in the Mini line? Oh wait. I get it. If they were going to do a roadster you'd rather they do a retro incarnation of the Sprite! All righty then. It's ugly. Everybody tell your friends and family that the new mini roadster sucks. It has no heritage...no basis...it is doomed. It's nothing but a sleezy corporate attempt to squeeze a few more bucks out of a generalized platform. From rich_ball at mindspring.com Mon Oct 31 21:08:00 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:08:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. End of thread! In-Reply-To: <407623356.555726.1320022763525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <2132785064.555622.1320022399055.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <407623356.555726.1320022763525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8F67467A3CCD4C529F0660AC9C4C8710@RichandSusanPC> Dave, I may be off base here and hate to be the bearer of bad news, but... I'm betting that if you check you're going to find that the Z has bad timing belt. My kid had that same car that "just stopped running". When I came to bail him out a little checking revealed the bad timing belt. That engine is an interference type and most likely will be looking at a full rebuild in its future. I would have emailed you before he purchased it, but Susan has been (is) in the hospital with breathing problems (pneumonia and/or a blood clot near her lung) so I haven't been following along for the past couple days. Good luck with the Z and I hope it isn't the timing belt. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 5:59 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Off Topic Dilemna.. End of thread! Folks... thanks for the advice... I passed it on He bought it! The engine stopped running and the pwners' son couldn't figure out why. The Uncle (owner) had moved to Kalifornia (1978 280Z -- smog issues?) The Niece (a nurse) didn't want it, so they sold it! Body excellent - no rust or major dinghs, Mechanicals in good Condition ... interior needs some TLC. I asked him "Did wifey agree?" He said "No! But she grudgingly acquiesced" She gets a new dining room table ! And a stroke of luck... I still have my CD of the workshop manuals for a 1978 280Z in searchable pdf format..,. Serendipity -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it :| '65 Sprite - running :) '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "CosmicMag1380" wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Dave KK7SS > wrote: > > Here's my dilemna.. His wifey has said he can't buy it! No Way! quote > > "too many cars" unquote. So he called me and asked if I would 'loan' > > him the money so he can say that I bought it! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 21:21:08 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:21:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Being 100+ miles frm a dealer we don't see a lot of Minis here and I haven't been keeping up with the latest models. I saw a Mini Coupe for the first time yesterday and had to drive around the block to get a second look; and still all I could say was WTF?!? The roofline of the Coupe is completely messed up IMHO. That said, in comparison at least, the roadster version isn't too awful. From lmacy at mac.com Mon Oct 31 21:24:56 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:24:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster In-Reply-To: <666EFA77E58545BE904997CC1D9786ED@blackbox2> References: <666EFA77E58545BE904997CC1D9786ED@blackbox2> Message-ID: <7013D1B6-7FFB-426E-B64A-455F6EF66306@mac.com> EXACTLY!! Ed On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > It has no heritage...no basis...it is doomed. It's nothing but a sleezy > corporate attempt to squeeze a few more bucks out of a generalized platform. -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it" --- Groucho Marx From millerls at ado13.com Mon Oct 31 23:07:39 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:07:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Mini Roadster In-Reply-To: <666EFA77E58545BE904997CC1D9786ED@blackbox2> References: <666EFA77E58545BE904997CC1D9786ED@blackbox2> Message-ID: <086264F6-2874-46CB-9E51-F6196D896A1D@ado13.com> Sorry Guys, I think it's bitchin......Will need to get a better look at it. On Oct 31, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > I though it looked pretty good. > > Even with the top up... > http://www.gizmag.com/mini-roadster/20324/picture/146156/ From millerls at ado13.com Mon Oct 31 23:14:10 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:14:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Bonnet Message-ID: <735F174D-C929-48C8-B0FB-4EBDC41E4DA2@ado13.com> http://tinyurl.com/3txc7by From bkitterer at me.com Mon Oct 31 23:34:42 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:34:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Travels, Auto Museums and a little LBC Message-ID: Hello Folks, Our major trips for the year are over and there are 134 Spridget emails that I have not had time to read, so there may be some delayed responses. Our one year adventure in the RV is now getting close to being two and a half years in length but we will be moving back into the house early next year. Then once more I will return to working on Sprites (LBC content), have my books and other items available so I can make some reasonably knowledgeable contributions to the list. On the last trip we visited two significant auto museums. The first was the National Auto Museum in Reno, NV which has a lot of the Harrah auto collection. The blow link has about 169 photos and placards. http://web.me.com/bkitterer/Bobs_Stuff/Nat._Auto_Museum.html The other museum is the Blackhawk, a must see for anyone that will be in the SF Bay area. There are about 151 photos, auto art and placards at this link. http://web.me.com/bkitterer/Bobs_Stuff/Blackhawk.html Enjoy Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage