So much for my future hopes :( -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net> Don't worry. John and I are both too old and married to try anything anyways.