From grday at btinternet.com Sun May 1 03:20:35 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:20:35 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5CE03847819D44098128AECE32C70AEE@user8634b3d69b> Print this post out and give it to their boss. ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: "spridgets" ; "Club, Philly" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:11 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco > So I am posting this just to get it off of my chest so I don't snap and > KILL > someone. > > > > > > I took my Midget to get painted and have some bodywork done, associated > with > getting hit in a parking lot back in the fall.B I dropped the car off on > March 2.B 2 weeks later they said it was done and I picked it up.B It > looked > good and I had it flatbeadded home.B when I got it home I took a better > look > as I was reasembling it.B They did a for s%*it job.B besides not doing > the > bodywork even half a%%ed they left my car with holes drips and they > PAINTED my > stainless steal exhaust!!! and they never fixed half the chips on the car > that > I paid for.B so I took it back 4 weeks ago to have them fix it.B I was > told > on AprilB 11 that it would be done the end of the week.B then after not > hearing from them I called on the 18 and they said it will be done on 20th > but > that came and went and then on Monday I was told for the 4th time it was > in > final buffing and they wanted to make sure it was good and I could pick it > up > on wednesday.B On wednesday they said Its done but it looks like rain how > about waiting till Saturday.B fine. I have waited this long.... SO > saturday > morning I get a ride up to the shop to be there at 9 when they open as I > was > told it was ready last night.B at 5 of 9 and 200' from the shop they call > me > and say "uh i found a scratch by the door but I can get it fixed by 11:30 > if > you can come later".B So I wait. At 11 I call and they tell me its ready > to > go if i can get here by 12.B no problem I am at a friends house 5 minutes > away....the phone goes silent...."uh oB B k, we will see yoiu then."B AT > 11:30 I drive over and find my car sitting in PREP!!!!! behind another > car.B > I check it over and I cant really tell because its dark so I say finish > buffing it out and pull it out in the sunlight.B BUT THEY CAN"T cause > THEY > KILLED MY NEW BATTERY!!!!!!!B SO they jump start it and pull it out into > the > light......the car has no gloss it is FLAT except for by the driver side > rear > quarter panel where is beautifully glossy.....which makes it that much > easier > to see theB 5 inch deep 7 inch long dripB line on the panel from 3 feet > away!!!!B B the door doesn't match the body the rockers don't match > anything > theB wholeB car that isn't facing up is flat.B This is after its been > there > for FOUR F-ING WEEKS!!!!! > > > > "Oh a we can fix that but you will have to leave it till Monday.B " NO > SH&T > a&& hole what other choice do I have??? > > > > "Well we tried to make you happy by doing a base coat and a clear coat > cause > we know we made a mistake."B WANT TO MAKE ME HAPPY??? LEARN HOW TO PAINT > A > F--KING CAR!!!!!!!!! > > > > So far I have paid $1000 for the paint and bodywork,$350 for 2 tows, > missed 2 > club get togethers, one car show, one club rally, and most disturbing to > me > the funeral of the man I deeply respected, cared for, and whoB taught me > how > to make the car drivable in the first place. > > > > > > RANT OVER > > > > > > SO any suggestions on how to deal with them Monday morning without > screaming > and cursing at them > > Ryan "midget less" Kubanoff > _______________________________________________ From grday at btinternet.com Sun May 1 03:31:21 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:31:21 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Morris Mionor 1000 Rear Brake question. References: <1029724985.207070.1304215743193.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1275030462.20110430193545@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Paul told me that you can only set the E > brake AFTER you have done a brake job, and adjusted the shoes > properly. ... This is correct and you may find it better to disconnect the e-brake whilst adjusting the shoes for normal braking then re-connect and set the e-brake. The 'C' clips are easier to fit and do very nearly the same job. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Dave KK7SS" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '59 Morris Mionor 1000 Rear Brake question. > Hello Dave, > > I think what you have is one last treasure from Paul A. !! > > The C clips will, I believe, work much better than the E clips > that are currently available to hold the wheel cylinders to the > backing plates. I don't know where or how Paul sourced his parts, > and know we never will, but the E clips are almost impossible to > use, while his are a snap. I don't know about the thick washer. > > I'm not POSITIVE about the clips you found, but you should only > need one for each side, if i'm correct about their use, you have > an extra. > > Paul told me that you can only set the E > brake AFTER you have done a brake job, and adjusted the shoes > properly. ... > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > In which level of metalanguage are you now speaking? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 1 05:02:55 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 06:02:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Edit the language, yeah, I know that it isn't bad, but... Install the name of the shop, print it out, and take it to the shop owner. Then, inform him, that if your car is not finished CORRECTLY, in ONE WEEK. a copy goes to the BBB, and more copies will be handed out at ALL Philly car shows It isn't slander, if it really happened. Brad On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:11 PM, wrote: > So I am posting this just to get it off of my chest so I don't snap and > KILL > someone. > > > > > > I took my Midget to get painted and have some bodywork done, associated > with > getting hit in a parking lot back in the fall.B I dropped the car off on > March 2.B 2 weeks later they said it was done and I picked it up.B It > looked > good and I had it flatbeadded home.B when I got it home I took a better > look > as I was reasembling it.B They did a for s%*it job.B besides not doing > the > bodywork even half a%%ed they left my car with holes drips and they PAINTED > my > stainless steal exhaust!!! and they never fixed half the chips on the car > that > I paid for.B so I took it back 4 weeks ago to have them fix it.B I was > told > on AprilB 11 that it would be done the end of the week.B then after not > hearing from them I called on the 18 and they said it will be done on 20th > but > that came and went and then on Monday I was told for the 4th time it was in > final buffing and they wanted to make sure it was good and I could pick it > up > on wednesday.B On wednesday they said Its done but it looks like rain how > about waiting till Saturday.B fine. I have waited this long.... SO > saturday > morning I get a ride up to the shop to be there at 9 when they open as I > was > told it was ready last night.B at 5 of 9 and 200' from the shop they call > me > and say "uh i found a scratch by the door but I can get it fixed by 11:30 > if > you can come later".B So I wait. At 11 I call and they tell me its ready > to > go if i can get here by 12.B no problem I am at a friends house 5 minutes > away....the phone goes silent...."uh oB B k, we will see yoiu then."B AT > 11:30 I drive over and find my car sitting in PREP!!!!! behind another > car.B > I check it over and I cant really tell because its dark so I say finish > buffing it out and pull it out in the sunlight.B BUT THEY CAN"T cause THEY > KILLED MY NEW BATTERY!!!!!!!B SO they jump start it and pull it out into > the > light......the car has no gloss it is FLAT except for by the driver side > rear > quarter panel where is beautifully glossy.....which makes it that much > easier > to see theB 5 inch deep 7 inch long dripB line on the panel from 3 feet > away!!!!B B the door doesn't match the body the rockers don't match > anything > theB wholeB car that isn't facing up is flat.B This is after its been > there > for FOUR F-ING WEEKS!!!!! > > > > "Oh a we can fix that but you will have to leave it till Monday.B " NO SH&T > a&& hole what other choice do I have??? > > > > "Well we tried to make you happy by doing a base coat and a clear coat > cause > we know we made a mistake."B WANT TO MAKE ME HAPPY??? LEARN HOW TO PAINT A > F--KING CAR!!!!!!!!! > > > > So far I have paid $1000 for the paint and bodywork,$350 for 2 tows, missed > 2 > club get togethers, one car show, one club rally, and most disturbing to me > the funeral of the man I deeply respected, cared for, and whoB taught me > how > to make the car drivable in the first place. > > > > > > RANT OVER > > > > > > SO any suggestions on how to deal with them Monday morning without > screaming > and cursing at them > > Ryan "midget less" Kubanoff > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 1 05:03:52 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 06:03:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What's in a name? In-Reply-To: References: <023501cc0799$28325640$789702c0$@net> Message-ID: Save the Wales!!! Get the whole set!!! On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Long live the King! And "Save The Wales"!! Errrr.... Ummmmm.... > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Robert Evans > wrote: > > > When there were some questions about the Royalty's surname, there were > many > > guesses-Mountbatten, Windsor, etc. William, however, had the last word > as > > reported by the Daily Mail: > > > > > > > > "William delivered a brief speech at the wedding breakfast where he > proudly > > introduced his wife as 'Mrs Wales' even though the couple will be > formally > > known as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge." > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun May 1 06:13:12 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 08:13:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1st outing In-Reply-To: <35CF9B89-A701-4D09-A459-92E840F495A0@verizon.net> References: <35CF9B89-A701-4D09-A459-92E840F495A0@verizon.net> Message-ID: That is really sweet Phill Lin On Saturday, April 30, 2011, Philip Nase wrote: > Jane and I participated in a gimmick rally today. The Sprite ran great and we > had a ball. It was a bit chilly to start out but warmed up nicely towards the > end. > > Two young brothers (grade school age) were giving the car a good look in the > parking area at the finish. I made their day when I asked them if they wanted > to sit in it. They really loved it. > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 1 08:12:34 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 07:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Front Bumper for 1970's Midget, one 1098, NOS Exhausts, NOS 948 In Crate Message-ID: <698312.62662.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Listers, If anyone needs/wants an excellent front bumper complete with overriders and spring bar, contact me offlist. This is ready to bolt-on and suitable part for a high-quality restoration. I also have: - a 1098 I am dying to sell, which is actually from an Innocenti Spider as it has a different engine tag, - several NOS 1275 exhausts - front to rear pipes and mufflers, one twin silencer. - if you're crazy like I am, an NOS shortblock 948 in the factory crate plus NOS externals: rocker cover, timing cover, sump, etc. Contact me off-list if interested. OR, you can mimic the Volvo forum and pepper your responses with four letter words for submitting a posting containing something for sale. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun May 1 08:35:18 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:35:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. Message-ID: If anyone here in the east is heading to the NYC Car show http://www.autoshowny.com/show/directions/subway I'll be heading out via train a in few. I'll probably be checking out the Fiat and Electric cars as well as VW Porsche etc. : ) Lin From refisk at chartermi.net Sun May 1 08:41:26 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:41:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Bumper for 1970's Midget, one 1098, NOS Exhausts, NOS 948 In Crate In-Reply-To: <698312.62662.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <698312.62662.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jay, You could get the Volvo guys really wound up by posting this stuff for sale on their list. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Front Bumper for 1970's Midget, one 1098, NOS Exhausts, NOS 948 In Crate > Listers, > > If anyone needs/wants an excellent front bumper complete with > overriders and > spring bar, contact me offlist. This is ready to bolt-on and > suitable part for a > high-quality restoration. > > I also have: > - a 1098 I am > dying to sell, which is actually from an Innocenti Spider as it > has a > different engine tag, > - several NOS 1275 exhausts - front to rear pipes and > mufflers, one twin > silencer. > - if you're crazy like I am, an NOS shortblock > 948 in the factory crate plus NOS > externals: rocker cover, timing cover, > sump, etc. > > Contact me off-list if interested. > > OR, you can mimic the Volvo > forum and pepper your responses with four letter > words for submitting a > posting containing something for sale. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun May 1 09:22:15 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:22:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gift Sprite.... 10 years after... In-Reply-To: <201104280824169.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201104250844186.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, , <62762.23397.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <646BAF03B8C34C9AAD95C76C9F5305BD@Home>, , <201104280824169.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Well, If you insist Peter. :-) As long as you have other options, that's cool. It's great that you got back into the Spridget's thing.! We are all better for it! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:24:11 -0500 > To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com; mdrowe at optonline.net; spridgets at autox.team.net > From: peter at nosimport.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gift Sprite.... 10 years after... > > Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > I have lots of Sprites! I have a 65 that may receive some Gift > Sprite parts.... notably the engine and transmission. I prefer the > 65-66 cars the most. (it's that roadster v. convertible debate) > > A 71 Midget that Frank did some patch welding on, that I'm giving to > a young kid that works for me here. > > A Bugeye, also, Plus several other interesting cars. > > Gift Sprite got me back into Spridgets, from whence I came years ago. > It was a good thing, and I think exactly Frank's grand plan. > > No..... Parts of Gift Sprite will move on to others, at my > discretion, as I think is proper. > > Please.... the right person will appear for Michael's tub. > > Peter > === > At 09:59 AM 4/28/2011, brian S wrote: > >Ok, > > > >Lets get that intervention started for Peter. > >Let's see if we can get Michael's tub to Peter. > >I'll haul it from Long Island to say, NJ or Eastern Pa. > >Someone else takes it a little further west and so on. > >Similar to what we did for the Holy Sprite. > > > >Anyone else game????? > > > >Brian S. > >Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun May 1 09:28:53 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:28:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Suggestions for a couple of paragraphs on Frank? In-Reply-To: <476695.81911.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <92358AFC-9B7B-412B-8952-ACD3ECD4F609@mac.com>, <476695.81911.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Awesome find Ron, Thanks sooo much for finding and posting it. I wish I had thought to record the Homily Father Jack did. It was excellent also. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks be to Frank. > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:56:27 -0700 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > To: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com; lmacy at mac.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suggestions for a couple of paragraphs on Frank? > > "The Measure of a Man" > http://www.scrapbook.com/poems/doc/26887/374.html > Not - > How did he die? But - How did he live? > Not - What did he gain? But - What did > he give? > > These are the things that measure the worth > Of a man as a man, > regardless of birth. > > Not - What was his station? But - had he a heart? > And - > How did he play his God-given part? > > Was he ever ready with a word of good > cheer? > To bring back a smile, to banish a tear? > > Not - What was his church? > Not - What was his creed? > But - Had he befriended those really in need? > > Not - > What did the sketch in the newspaper say? > But - How many were sorry when he > passed away? > > These are the things that measure the worth > Of a man as a man, > regardless of birth. > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:22 AM, David > Booker wrote: > > > > > I've been asked to write a couple of paragraphs about > > > Frank for the Long Island MG Car Club's May newsletter. I know there > are quite a few members who knew Frank, dealt with him or at least > had heard of him. If nothing else, they remember the article I > wrote about the Holy Sprite for one issue a couple of years ago. > > > > > > > My problem is that although I considered Frank a good > > > friend, I don't really know what I can say in such a short format. It seems > > > such a terribly inadequate amount of words to do justice. > > > > > > > > > > Unless somebody has something I could forward or use as a guide, I'll > > compose something this weekend and enclose a few pictures I took over > the past couple years. > > > Maybe Father Jack said something at the service? > > > > > > Thanks everybody, > > > - David > > > Booker > > > Long Island > > > _______________________________________________ From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sun May 1 09:46:04 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:46:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Morris Mionor 1000 Rear Brake question. In-Reply-To: <1029724985.207070.1304215743193.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1029724985.207070.1304215743193.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I agree that the C-clips hold the wheel cylinder to the back plate. The "bronze" washer is probably a copper crush washer. These are used as a gasket on the brake hose. They cannot be reused, so if you replace the hose, always use new copper washers. You will need two washers for each hose, so if you have just one, it was an extra. I have a whole box full of extra shi...er...stuff like that. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I have sent this to the Morris Minor group, but I just had a thought that > the rear drums might just be similar to the early bugeye's > > I have no rear brake action and also the handbrake isn't doing its job :0 > > I found that Paul A. had left a set of new shoes in a box on the back seat > -- sort of a downer to think that he didn't have the time to fix them. :( > > Anyway, I opened the box and there are 4 new shoes *and* a plastic bag with > 3 "C" circlips (looking like an old fashioned 'E')and one thick Bronze > washer. > > I'm pretty sure I only need to change the shoes BUT what would those three > 'C' circlips be for? And what's with the thick Washer? > > Are they also for the rear brakes or was he planning on something else ! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun May 1 10:22:56 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:22:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: In my experience, $1000 is nothing. Bring 'em some doughnuts, say you are willing to wait to get the job done right. Just let them know that you would like to stop by every so often to see how things are going. I just paid $ 2500 to have a car repainted, no body damage and same color. It's not a show car so I am willing to accept some so-so work. A really good job, $ 5000. .. oh yeah, no pay until car is finished. Lester On Apr 30, 2011, at 7:11 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > So I am posting this just to get it off of my chest so I don't snap and KILL > someone. > > snip > > > So far I have paid $1000 for the paint and bodywork,$350 for 2 tows, missed 2 > club get togethers, one car show, one club rally, and most disturbing to me > the funeral of the man I deeply respected, cared for, and whoB taught me how > to make the car drivable in the first place. > > > > > > RANT OVER > > > > > > SO any suggestions on how to deal with them Monday morning without screaming > and cursing at them > > Ryan "midget less" Kubanoff > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun May 1 10:34:01 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net> Now that someone else has spoken the words I dint want to voice I will chime in. As Lester states $1000 for body work and paint is nothing. My gut feeling is that the quote you got was simply given to have them a vehicle to use as a filler when they had slack time for any of the workers and as such was relegated to the back burner. Using the cheapest products out there, there isn't 500.00 labour left in the 1k price quoted. And any time they spend on it now is coming out of someones pocket.... Remember the old caveats... If it sounds to good to be true it usually is and you get what you pay for and cheap comes with headaches usually UNLESS you are the one doing it Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:23 AM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net; spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In my experience, $1000 is nothing. Bring 'em some doughnuts, say you are willing to wait to get the job done right. Just let them know that you would like to stop by every so often to see how things are going. I just paid $ 2500 to have a car repainted, no body damage and same color. It's not a show car so I am willing to accept some so-so work. A really good job, $ 5000. .. oh yeah, no pay until car is finished. Lester On Apr 30, 2011, at 7:11 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > So I am posting this just to get it off of my chest so I don't snap and KILL > someone. > > snip > > > So far I have paid $1000 for the paint and bodywork,$350 for 2 tows, missed 2 > club get togethers, one car show, one club rally, and most disturbing to me > the funeral of the man I deeply respected, cared for, and whoB taught me how > to make the car drivable in the first place. > > > > > > RANT OVER > > > > > > SO any suggestions on how to deal with them Monday morning without screaming > and cursing at them > > Ryan "midget less" Kubanoff > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Sun May 1 10:48:57 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 09:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <548862.98286.qm@web112718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I did all my body work and painting and I have close to $1000 in materials. The shop must be getting a great deal on materials or not paying much in labor. I donbt see how anyone could do an expectable job for that much money. B Bill WB ________________________________ From: "ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net" To: spridgets ; "Club, Philly" Sent: Sat, April 30, 2011 5:11:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco So I am posting this just to get it off of my chest so I don't snap and KILL someone. I took my Midget to get painted and have some bodywork done, associated with getting hit in a parking lot back in the fall.BB I dropped the car off on March 2.BB 2 weeks later they said it was done and I picked it up.BB It looked good and I had it flatbeadded home.BB when I got it home I took a better look as I was reasembling it.BB They did a for s%*it job.BB besides not doing the bodywork even half a%%ed they left my car with holes drips and they PAINTED my stainless steal exhaust!!! and they never fixed half the chips on the car that I paid for.BB so I took it back 4 weeks ago to have them fix it.BB I was told on AprilBB 11 that it would be done the end of the week.BB then after not hearing from them I called on the 18 and they said it will be done on 20th but that came and went and then on Monday I was told for the 4th time it was in final buffing and they wanted to make sure it was good and I could pick it up on wednesday.BB On wednesday they said Its done but it looks like rain how about waiting till Saturday.BB fine. I have waited this long.... SO saturday morning I get a ride up to the shop to be there at 9 when they open as I was told it was ready last night.BB at 5 of 9 and 200' from the shop they call me and say "uh i found a scratch by the door but I can get it fixed by 11:30 if you can come later".BB So I wait. At 11 I call and they tell me its ready to go if i can get here by 12.BB no problem I am at a friends house 5 minutes away....the phone goes silent...."uh oB BB k, we will see yoiu then."BB AT 11:30 I drive over and find my car sitting in PREP!!!!! behind another car.B I check it over and I cant really tell because its dark so I say finish buffing it out and pull it out in the sunlight.BB BUT THEY CAN"T cause THEY KILLED MY NEW BATTERY!!!!!!!BB SO they jump start it and pull it out into the light......the car has no gloss it is FLAT except for by the driver side rear quarter panel where is beautifully glossy.....which makes it that much easier to see theBB 5 inch deep 7 inch long dripB line on the panel from 3 feet away!!!!B BB the door doesn't match the body the rockers don't match anything theBB wholeB car that isn't facing up is flat.BB This is after its been there for FOUR F-ING WEEKS!!!!! "Oh a we can fix that but you will have to leave it till Monday.B " NO SH&T a&& hole what other choice do I have??? "Well we tried to make you happy by doing a base coat and a clear coat cause we know we made a mistake."BB WANT TO MAKE ME HAPPY??? LEARN HOW TO PAINT A F--KING CAR!!!!!!!!! So far I have paid $1000 for the paint and bodywork,$350 for 2 tows, missed 2 club get togethers, one car show, one club rally, and most disturbing to me the funeral of the man I deeply respected, cared for, and whoB taught me how to make the car drivable in the first place. RANT OVER SO any suggestions on how to deal with them Monday morning without screaming and cursing at them Ryan "midget less" Kubanoff _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sun May 1 11:41:19 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:41:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [morris_motors] MM 1000 Rear brake question In-Reply-To: <349621395.206237.1304207550327.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <349621395.206237.1304207550327.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2B931B20-D914-4CF3-9D3C-0C93FDEC3B3D@gerardsgarage.com> Hi Dave, If the rear shoes are correct and the Morris has it's original wheel cylinders (I know Paul was not a proponent of upgrading the Morris to later dual piston wheel cylinders, a la Spridget), the shoes will have a notch in one end to accommodate the adjuster. The wheel cylinders are held to the backplate with a small bolt (same as the Bugeye). The E/C- clips are not for used on MM's. Later Spridget shoes look the same , but without the notch, so check that before you start taking things apart. I raise that question since you have the clips. Make sure you use beehive springs on the shoes to backplate too. I'd have to see the size of the washer, but it might be part of the brake adjuster mechanism at the handbrake. Unlike Spridgets, the handbrake uses two cables, one to each wheel, and the adjustment is by a special bronze nuts at the handbrake lever. Gerard On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I have no rear brake action also the handbrake isn't doing its job :0 > > I ffound that Paul A. had left a set of new shoes in a box on the > back seat -- sort of a downer to think that he didn't have the time > to fix them. > > Anyway, I opened the box and there are 4 new shoes *and* a plastic > bag with 3 "C" circlips (looking like an old fashioned 'E')and one > thick Bronze washer. > > I'm pretty sure I only need to change the shoes BUT what would those > three 'C' circlips be for? And the thick Washer? > > Are they also for the rear brakes or was he planning on something > else ! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > morris_motors-digest at yahoogroups.com > morris_motors-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > morris_motors-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun May 1 11:43:58 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:43:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco Message-ID: <027f01cc0827$59ef1810$0dcd4830$@net> When I was getting the BusterCluster Sprite ready for the restoration, it had never been re-sprayed, and I wanted the paint to match the original. I had stripped it of everything except the rear wheels, and then searched all over Orange and L.A. counties, but no specialty shops would touch it. Finally, I stopped by a new Maaco shop-yeah, I can hear the laughter and sighs already-- about 4 miles away in Stanton. As it turned out, the estimator had bought a new Sprite at the same time I had, back in 1960, and was excited about the prospect. The new owner (who had been an agronomist) was anxious to do the work, and do it to my specifications which included some significant crunch work to the right front fender and some occasional grotty cancer spots. Price: $3,000. But well worth it. The body man (who spoke English like the native he was-remarkable in Southern California) was an artiste who was rightfully proud of his work, and even added the strengthening rods to the hood that Frank sketched out for him. Getting the color right was a real challenge. The shop found a pristine sample of the original paint UNDER the filler neck grommet. Of course, the original blend was long gone, and the formula no longer *reliably* to be found. The shop found a pristine sample of the original paint UNDER the filler neck grommet. I got a lot of advice from people on the list, including Frank, but none matched the original to the shop's satisfaction. The owner was getting advice from the MAACO corporate offices, and eventually began working directly with DuPont. They had mixed up four different formulae before they had what to them-and to me-was the perfect match. In the end, they produced a beautiful job that cost them much more than the quoted $3,000. I insisted that I wanted to pay the ACTUAL end cost (plus profit), but the owner was even more insistent that $3,000 was the price agreed upon. That was it. No arguing. End of story. Period. So, just hang in there and keep searching until you find one of the good guys out there. And don't dismiss any simply because, like MAACO, their reputation is not the best. You will always be able to get what you want if you are willing to pay the price. Buster Evans "The BusterCluster Sprite" http://www.ado13.com/BusterCluster.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs1klEzra24 http://bustercluster.blogspot.com/ From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 1 11:50:12 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net> Message-ID: <1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Current quotes for paint jobs around here is around $400 per panel! My Oldest son works as a painter in a body shop. He's offered to do a paint job on my Minor when I'm ready. We'll do the prep work at home, and then he'll do the painr job for the cost of the materials - which will be at the shops'cost -- about $750. That doesn't include the cost of using the paint booth which we'll be using over a few weekends and which we hope to get for a discount!. So, with labour around $50/hour (at least) $1000 would not go far enough towards a decent job! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Now that someone else has spoken the words I dint want to voice I will chime in. As Lester states $1000 for body work and paint is nothing. Using the cheapest products out there, there isn't 500.00 labour left in the 1k price quoted. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 1 12:37:36 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 14:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Front Bumper for 1970's Midget, one 1098, NOS Exhausts, NOS ... Message-ID: <9f9eb.4b7cf786.3aef0270@aol.com> I'm interested to know what stuff is for sale so post away. submitting a posting containing something for sale. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sun May 1 13:40:22 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:40:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [morris_motors] MM 1000 Rear brake question- Correction In-Reply-To: <349621395.206237.1304207550327.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <349621395.206237.1304207550327.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I was thinking of the fronts and I erred in the description. The rears fit in a slot so the cylinder can slide a little for the parking brake. The rubber boot is all the holds them in place. Gerard Hi Dave, If the rear shoes are correct and the Morris has it's original wheel cylinders (I know Paul was not a proponent of upgrading the Morris to later dual piston wheel cylinders, a la Spridget), the shoes will have a notch in one end to accommodate the adjuster. The wheel cylinders are held to the backplate with a small bolt (same as the Bugeye). The E/C- clips are not for used on MM's. Later Spridget shoes look the same , but without the notch, so check that before you start taking things apart. I raise that question since you have the clips. Make sure you use beehive springs on the shoes to backplate too. I'd have to see the size of the washer, but it might be part of the brake adjuster mechanism at the handbrake. Unlike Spridgets, the handbrake uses two cables, one to each wheel, and the adjustment is by a special bronze nuts at the handbrake lever. Gerard On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I have no rear brake action also the handbrake isn't doing its job :0 > > I ffound that Paul A. had left a set of new shoes in a box on the > back seat -- sort of a downer to think that he didn't have the time > to fix them. > > Anyway, I opened the box and there are 4 new shoes *and* a plastic > bag with 3 "C" circlips (looking like an old fashioned 'E')and one > thick Bronze washer. > > I'm pretty sure I only need to change the shoes BUT what would those > three 'C' circlips be for? And the thick Washer? > > Are they also for the rear brakes or was he planning on something > else ! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/morris_motors/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > morris_motors-digest at yahoogroups.com > morris_motors-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > morris_motors-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 1 14:24:44 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] [morris_motors] MM 1000 Rear brake question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <176375937.211938.1304281484037.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Even though I've been messing around with LBC's for more years than I care to count, there is always the occasion when I come across something that I've never seen or done before.. If it wasn't for the Spridgets and Morris lists I don't think I could have got this far.. So.. many, many thanks to all who have responded to my questions.... past, present and (no doubt)future. You are Gentlemen, all.. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 1 14:36:03 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:36:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <346CD5218F454A17892E55B47F56AFA4@HomePC> Whether Ryan got the deal of the century at $1000 really doesn't matter here. He had a contract to do the job at that price. In this state (WI) it doesn't even matter if he got it in writing as an oral contract is just as enforceable as a written contract. I suspect that is the case in most states. They had an agreement and the shop needs to live up to it even if they lose money on the deal. At this point they have breached the contract. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun May 1 17:12:00 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:12:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Morris Mionor 1000 Rear Brake question. In-Reply-To: References: <1029724985.207070.1304215743193.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1275030462.20110430193545@pacifier.com> Message-ID: The rear brakes on the MkI don't use the "C" clips to attach the cylinders to the backing plates. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Guy R Day Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:31 AM To: Bill L; Dave KK7SS Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '59 Morris Mionor 1000 Rear Brake question. Paul told me that you can only set the E > brake AFTER you have done a brake job, and adjusted the shoes > properly. ... This is correct and you may find it better to disconnect the e-brake whilst adjusting the shoes for normal braking then re-connect and set the e-brake. The 'C' clips are easier to fit and do very nearly the same job. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Dave KK7SS" Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '59 Morris Mionor 1000 Rear Brake question. > Hello Dave, > > I think what you have is one last treasure from Paul A. !! > > The C clips will, I believe, work much better than the E clips > that are currently available to hold the wheel cylinders to the > backing plates. I don't know where or how Paul sourced his parts, > and know we never will, but the E clips are almost impossible to > use, while his are a snap. I don't know about the thick washer. > > I'm not POSITIVE about the clips you found, but you should only > need one for each side, if i'm correct about their use, you have > an extra. > > Paul told me that you can only set the E > brake AFTER you have done a brake job, and adjusted the shoes > properly. ... From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 1 17:20:52 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:20:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <346CD5218F454A17892E55B47F56AFA4@HomePC> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <346CD5218F454A17892E55B47F56AFA4@HomePC> Message-ID: <4DBDEAD4.5040603@justbrits.com> << At this point they have breached the contract. >> And "at that point" the word ATTORNEY has a tendency to get attention !! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun May 1 17:38:30 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:38:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net> <1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: What are you people talking about? Four quarts of Rustoleum "Antique White" only cost about $50. That, and the HLVP gun I picked up at BigLots for $25. You might laugh. But I'm pleased with the results. If I was to do it over again I probably would have gone with Duplicolors DIY solution - with the clearcoat. I understand that it is very forgiving, But then I would not have achieved the proper oil alkyd, Old English White color:) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:50 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco Current quotes for paint jobs around here is around $400 per panel! My Oldest son works as a painter in a body shop. He's offered to do a paint job on my Minor when I'm ready. We'll do the prep work at home, and then he'll do the painr job for the cost of the materials - which will be at the shops'cost -- about $750. That doesn't include the cost of using the paint booth which we'll be using over a few weekends and which we hope to get for a discount!. So, with labour around $50/hour (at least) $1000 would not go far enough towards a decent job! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Now that someone else has spoken the words I dint want to voice I will chime in. As Lester states $1000 for body work and paint is nothing. Using the cheapest products out there, there isn't 500.00 labour left in the 1k price quoted. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From millerls at ado13.com Sun May 1 17:46:53 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 16:46:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <346CD5218F454A17892E55B47F56AFA4@HomePC> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <346CD5218F454A17892E55B47F56AFA4@HomePC> Message-ID: <0BBC280D-FBD4-41FD-B678-E483210D3C6D@ado13.com> Good less expensive paint jobs can be had. A lot of you have seen the black paint on Bugzuki as it was at LotO. $800 for the paint material and spray job. I did all the prep at home. The shop block sanded, sprayed the paint and rubbed out the car. This was a one man shop. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun May 1 18:11:51 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:11:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: References: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net> <1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <002901cc085d$899a6700$9ccf3500$@rr.com> I'm with Dean- My Sprite will never be smooth and flawless, but the Rustoleum solution is working for me. As soon as the weather dries out for a while I'll be putting on the final coat. Yes, the sponge brush paint job posted online works. No, I won't be showing it. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:39 PM To: 'Dave KK7SS'; 'spridgets_autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco What are you people talking about? Four quarts of Rustoleum "Antique White" only cost about $50. That, and the HLVP gun I picked up at BigLots for $25. You might laugh. But I'm pleased with the results. If I was to do it over again I probably would have gone with Duplicolors DIY solution - with the clearcoat. I understand that it is very forgiving, But then I would not have achieved the proper oil alkyd, Old English White color:) From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun May 1 18:18:09 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:18:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I was stunned by the Flying Scot's photo Message-ID: <02ad01cc085e$6b3d76c0$41b86440$@net> He looks OLD!!!! And he is younger than I. I shudder to think what Jimmy Clark, who was older, would look like if he had lived!!! (Anyone else remember "Jim Clark for President"?) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/fameandfortune/8481525/Ja ckie-Stewart-Racing-was-high-risk-so-Im-cautious-with-money.html Buster From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 1 18:27:57 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gift Sprite.... 10 years after... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <180004.91607.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Brian, Don't listen to him. He had all that stuff when we did Gift Sprite, too. (ducking) Ron --- On Sun, 5/1/11, brian S wrote: > From: brian S > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gift Sprite.... 10 years after... > To: peter at nosimport.com, "spridgets list" > Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:22 AM > Well, > > If you insist Peter. :-) > As long as you have other options, that's cool. > It's great that you got back into the Spridget's thing.! > We are all better for it! > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank > > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:24:11 -0500 > > To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com; > mdrowe at optonline.net; > spridgets at autox.team.net > > From: peter at nosimport.com > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gift Sprite.... 10 years > after... > > > > > Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > I have lots of Sprites! I have a 65 > that may receive some Gift > > Sprite parts.... notably the engine and transmission. > I prefer the > > 65-66 cars the most. (it's that roadster v. > convertible debate) > > > > A 71 Midget that Frank did some patch welding on, that > I'm giving to > > a young kid that works for me here. > > > > A Bugeye, also, Plus several other > interesting cars. > > > > Gift Sprite got me back into Spridgets, from whence I > came years ago. > > It was a good thing, and I think exactly Frank's grand > plan. > > > > No..... Parts of Gift Sprite will move on to > others, at my > > discretion, as I think is proper. > > > > Please.... the right person will appear for Michael's > tub. > > > > Peter > > === > > At 09:59 AM 4/28/2011, brian S wrote: > > >Ok, > > > > > >Lets get that intervention started for Peter. > > >Let's see if we can get Michael's tub to Peter. > > >I'll haul it from Long Island to say, NJ or > Eastern Pa. > > >Someone else takes it a little further west and so > on. > > >Similar to what we did for the Holy Sprite. > > > > > >Anyone else game????? > > > > > >Brian S. > > >Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 1 18:29:52 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:29:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I was stunned by the Flying Scot's photo In-Reply-To: <02ad01cc085e$6b3d76c0$41b86440$@net> References: <02ad01cc085e$6b3d76c0$41b86440$@net> Message-ID: I remember "Dan Gurney for President." . . . bill in corvallis ============================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:18 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Cc: AlClemens2 at aol.com; Jim Bauder Subject: [Spridgets] I was stunned by the Flying Scot's photo He looks OLD!!!! And he is younger than I. I shudder to think what Jimmy Clark, who was older, would look like if he had lived!!! (Anyone else remember "Jim Clark for President"?) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/fameandfortune/8481525/Ja ckie-Stewart-Racing-was-high-risk-so-Im-cautious-with-money.html Buster Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 1 18:32:32 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 19:32:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <002901cc085d$899a6700$9ccf3500$@rr.com> References: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net><1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <002901cc085d$899a6700$9ccf3500$@rr.com> Message-ID: Chris, I didn't know you were using that. I have an HVLP gun you are welcome to use. Might make the final coat a little easier to finish. Let me know if you want to try it. I'd like to see your results. Larry -----Original Message----- From: Chris Manuel Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:11 PM To: 'spridgets_autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco I'm with Dean- My Sprite will never be smooth and flawless, but the Rustoleum solution is working for me. As soon as the weather dries out for a while I'll be putting on the final coat. Yes, the sponge brush paint job posted online works. No, I won't be showing it. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:39 PM To: 'Dave KK7SS'; 'spridgets_autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco What are you people talking about? Four quarts of Rustoleum "Antique White" only cost about $50. That, and the HLVP gun I picked up at BigLots for $25. You might laugh. But I'm pleased with the results. If I was to do it over again I probably would have gone with Duplicolors DIY solution - with the clearcoat. I understand that it is very forgiving, But then I would not have achieved the proper oil alkyd, Old English White color:) Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun May 1 18:59:07 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:59:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another LEC company bites the dust Message-ID: <02b801cc0864$247b8b90$6d72a2b0$@net> Team Lotus Enterprise has announced the purchase of Caterham Cars, the little car company formed by Colin Chapman in 1968, whose cars were "Designed for Racing, Built for Living". Although Lotus Enterprise is a separate company to Group Lotus, which is owned by Malaysian manufacturer Proton and produces cars like the Lotus Elise and Evora, it also falls under the Malaysian umbrella. (Team Lotus Enterprise also operates under a license from the Malaysian Government.) So, although the cars will continue to be produced in Catherham, Surrey, another piece of the crumbling English auto industry leaves the country. http://www.arena.my/Msports/F1/MsportsF1RelatedArticle/tabid/167/Default.asp x?newsId=149398 http://www.formula1blog.com/2011/04/27/team-lotus-buys-caterham/ Buster Evans From clarici at verizon.net Sun May 1 19:13:41 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 21:13:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101cc0866$2d54a470$87fded50$@net> My fathers bike is a blast to drive. He drove it down to my house late Sunday night that he got it running. A friend with a speedometer on his bike confirmed that it does a steady 15mph. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:04 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post I was reading the latest issue of Make Magazine and they had a little tidbit on putting a small 50cc motor on a bicycle. There's a bunch online store selling these kits for about $140. This is sort of the like the motor Frank had discussed in his last post. Here is a nice conversion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vUzqlexgQ I thought it would be neat to throw one of these on a track bike I have. Heck, I could even commute to work on the nice days and save some serious gas money. That is, until I found out that, in most states, these are not road legal. In Pennsylvania, you will get pulled over an slapped with $160 fine. The issue is you need to register and be insured and you can't register it because you have no title or VIN. The only way I think I can get around this is to do what the cobra kit car folks do. Just take a look at the back of Hemmings to see what they are selling old Ford roadster titles for. Anybody got a junk moped with a decent title they want to sell cheap? Oh yea there is the other fantasy method.. "Application for Specially constructed Vehicle" That's where I take my motor converted bike to the local motorcycle shop/inspection station and somehow convince them to perform a safety evaluation and help me get a new title. The problem here is that it's not in their interest to do this because they would rather sell me a new moped! The rub for me is this: http://www.ezscooternv.com/currie/bicycle_law.htm Basically if I want to put a 1hp electric motor on my bike it's fine I don't even need to register it! Federally mandated! But I'm not allowed to put a little 1hp gas motor on my bike! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sun May 1 19:15:31 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:15:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: References: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net> <1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <000f01cc0866$6e7c7b80$4b757280$@net> Here we go again///////......... Summer needs to get here quick Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:39 PM To: 'Dave KK7SS'; 'spridgets_autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco What are you people talking about? Four quarts of Rustoleum "Antique White" only cost about $50. That, and the HLVP gun I picked up at BigLots for $25. You might laugh. But I'm pleased with the results. If I was to do it over again I probably would have gone with Duplicolors DIY solution - with the clearcoat. I understand that it is very forgiving, But then I would not have achieved the proper oil alkyd, Old English White color:) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:50 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco Current quotes for paint jobs around here is around $400 per panel! My Oldest son works as a painter in a body shop. He's offered to do a paint job on my Minor when I'm ready. We'll do the prep work at home, and then he'll do the painr job for the cost of the materials - which will be at the shops'cost -- about $750. That doesn't include the cost of using the paint booth which we'll be using over a few weekends and which we hope to get for a discount!. So, with labour around $50/hour (at least) $1000 would not go far enough towards a decent job! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Now that someone else has spoken the words I dint want to voice I will chime in. As Lester states $1000 for body work and paint is nothing. Using the cheapest products out there, there isn't 500.00 labour left in the 1k price quoted. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 1 19:31:40 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 18:31:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post In-Reply-To: <001101cc0866$2d54a470$87fded50$@net> References: <001101cc0866$2d54a470$87fded50$@net> Message-ID: I hope you're wearing your helmet Frankie. ...bill in oregon ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frankie Clarici 4th Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:14 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post My fathers bike is a blast to drive. He drove it down to my house late Sunday night that he got it running. A friend with a speedometer on his bike confirmed that it does a steady 15mph. Frankie ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:04 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post I was reading the latest issue of Make Magazine and they had a little tidbit on putting a small 50cc motor on a bicycle. There's a bunch online store selling these kits for about $140. This is sort of the like the motor Frank had discussed in his last post. Here is a nice conversion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vUzqlexgQ I thought it would be neat to throw one of these on a track bike I have. Heck, I could even commute to work on the nice days and save some serious gas money. That is, until I found out that, in most states, these are not road legal. In Pennsylvania, you will get pulled over an slapped with $160 fine. The issue is you need to register and be insured and you can't register it because you have no title or VIN. The only way I think I can get around this is to do what the cobra kit car folks do. Just take a look at the back of Hemmings to see what they are selling old Ford roadster titles for. Anybody got a junk moped with a decent title they want to sell cheap? Oh yea there is the other fantasy method.. "Application for Specially constructed Vehicle" That's where I take my motor converted bike to the local motorcycle shop/inspection station and somehow convince them to perform a safety evaluation and help me get a new title. The problem here is that it's not in their interest to do this because they would rather sell me a new moped! The rub for me is this: http://www.ezscooternv.com/currie/bicycle_law.htm Basically if I want to put a 1hp electric motor on my bike it's fine I don't even need to register it! Federally mandated! But I'm not allowed to put a little 1hp gas motor on my bike! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun May 1 19:31:57 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:31:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <000f01cc0866$6e7c7b80$4b757280$@net> References: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net> <1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <000f01cc0866$6e7c7b80$4b757280$@net> Message-ID: I saw a video (might have been on Duplicolor's website) Where they were shooting that Duplicolor DIY paint under a make-shift paint booth made from plastic sheet. If I paint another car, that's how I will do it. The problem with the Rustoleum is it takes too long to dry. I believe the Duplicolor paint is lacquer. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun May 1 19:44:23 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:44:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Base coat/clear coat is just about all you can get done nowadays. It takes skill to draw a good shine from a single stage paint. My buddy painted my Miata hardtop with a single stage enamel. It turned out good and the quart of paint and two additives were only around $80. Incidentally, my buddy sold his 66 Sprite last year for $6500. Also, getting a good shop to touch a classic car is tough. You will pay extra for someone who will do a good job on a classic car. The money to be made by body shops nowadays is in painting parts of cars and blending. They don't like to paint entire cars. $1000 is probably a bargain if you get a decent finish out of the deal. Figure at least 1/4 of that for materials. From clarici at verizon.net Sun May 1 20:12:19 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <002f01cc086e$5eb44900$1c1cdb00$@net> $1000 is a good deal. I shoot single stage and I can get it to shine better than most base/clears. I did all my dads cars and my VW's single stage. I use dupont and it comes out great. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:44 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: spridgets; Club, Philly Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco Base coat/clear coat is just about all you can get done nowadays. It takes skill to draw a good shine from a single stage paint. My buddy painted my Miata hardtop with a single stage enamel. It turned out good and the quart of paint and two additives were only around $80. Incidentally, my buddy sold his 66 Sprite last year for $6500. Also, getting a good shop to touch a classic car is tough. You will pay extra for someone who will do a good job on a classic car. The money to be made by body shops nowadays is in painting parts of cars and blending. They don't like to paint entire cars. $1000 is probably a bargain if you get a decent finish out of the deal. Figure at least 1/4 of that for materials. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sun May 1 20:23:07 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:23:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <002201cc086f$dffc7cc0$9ff57640$@net> The hard part shops have to deal with is that they cant match the factory orange peel crap paint job from the factory. And if you don't thinkl there is MAJOR orange peel in the new paint jobs from the factory step back and really examine one with a subjective eye Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:44 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: spridgets; Club, Philly Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco Base coat/clear coat is just about all you can get done nowadays. It takes skill to draw a good shine from a single stage paint. My buddy painted my Miata hardtop with a single stage enamel. It turned out good and the quart of paint and two additives were only around $80. Incidentally, my buddy sold his 66 Sprite last year for $6500. Also, getting a good shop to touch a classic car is tough. You will pay extra for someone who will do a good job on a classic car. The money to be made by body shops nowadays is in painting parts of cars and blending. They don't like to paint entire cars. $1000 is probably a bargain if you get a decent finish out of the deal. Figure at least 1/4 of that for materials. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From derf247 at gmail.com Sun May 1 20:31:52 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 21:31:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <002f01cc086e$5eb44900$1c1cdb00$@net> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <002f01cc086e$5eb44900$1c1cdb00$@net> Message-ID: Single stage is also MUCH harder to fix if you make mistakes when spraying. Sometimes you have to let it dry (days) and then fix it. My buddy matches factory paint all the time, orange peel and all. And, yes, there is a lot of orange like texture finishes coming from factories nowadays. He does Acuras and Infinities and Lexus vehicles for dealerships sometimes. Those customers can be picky. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun May 1 20:42:35 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?cnlhbi5rdWJhbm9mZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:42:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Paint_shop_fiasco?= Message-ID: <20110502024225.A3C19187655@autox.team.net> If they can't get it right I was going to call you. After you finish with Larry's midget. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" Date: Sun, May 1, 2011 10:12 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco To: $1000 is a good deal. I shoot single stage and I can get it to shine better than most base/clears. I did all my dads cars and my VW's single stage. I use dupont and it comes out great. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:44 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: spridgets; Club, Philly Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco Base coat/clear coat is just about all you can get done nowadays. It takes skill to draw a good shine from a single stage paint. My buddy painted my Miata hardtop with a single stage enamel. It turned out good and the quart of paint and two additives were only around $80. Incidentally, my buddy sold his 66 Sprite last year for $6500. Also, getting a good shop to touch a classic car is tough. You will pay extra for someone who will do a good job on a classic car. The money to be made by body shops nowadays is in painting parts of cars and blending. They don't like to paint entire cars. $1000 is probably a bargain if you get a decent finish out of the deal. Figure at least 1/4 of that for materials. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From jmj3351 at comcast.net Sun May 1 21:21:05 2011 From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 03:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <1562650200.766975.1304306017690.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <682102144.767106.1304306465729.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Wow, reading all this makes me feel really glad thatB I am able and willing to do my own paint work. I agree that for most people a $1000 paint job is a bargain, but I tight and $1000 is no bargain if the job is crummy. I have some nice looking cars and the paint is labor intensive, but I tight. I am not the best painter around but I am willing to rub, polish and sand until I look like a good painter. I use Nasson paint which is dupont's economy line and it is great in both single and dual stage. The only drawback is that it hard to match an existing color. It is great for complete paint jobs. I prefer the enamel with the catalyst hardner and you can light sand within 24 hrs. I have painted the base - clear and you can light sand in 12 hrs. I am fond of my cars and do not like Joe the rag man working on them. Joe the painter and repair guy does not have the fondness for my cars that is needed to do the job to my satisfaction. Sounds like you may have to buy 3m's three stage polish kit and get busy. Green midget and other classics. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" To: "ryan kubanoff" , "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 12:22:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In my experience, $1000 is nothing. B Bring 'em some doughnuts, say you are willing to wait to get the job done right. B Just let them know that you would like to stop by every so often to see how things are going. B I just paid $ 2500 to have a car repainted, no body damage and same color. B It's not a show car so I am willing to accept some B so-so work. B A really good job, $ 5000. .. oh yeah, no pay until car is finished. Lester On Apr 30, 2011, at 7:11 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > So I am posting this just to get it off of my chest so I don't snap and KILL > someone. > > snip > > > So far I have paid $1000 for the paint and bodywork,$350 for 2 tows, missed 2 > club get togethers, one car show, one club rally, and most disturbing to me > the funeral of the man I deeply respected, cared for, and whoB taught me how > to make the car drivable in the first place. > > > > > > RANT OVER > > > > > > SO any suggestions on how to deal with them Monday morning without screaming > and cursing at them > > Ryan "midget less" Kubanoff > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jmj3351 at comcast.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun May 1 21:27:44 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:27:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco In-Reply-To: <548862.98286.qm@web112718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <703341040.717270.1304208684491.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <548862.98286.qm@web112718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02c901cc0878$e74e7c40$b5eb74c0$@net> Bill wrote: "I dont see how anyone could do an expectable job for that much money." It all gets down to, "You get what you pay for." When it comes to qualitative issues relating to degrees of satisfaction, courts will rarely render an opinion absent a clearly defined and documented agreement. Buster Evans From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun May 1 23:38:22 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group Message-ID: <183642.93378.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I just joined a Harley discussion group and found they have a separate forum for guns. Not sure what that has to do with Harleys, but just like my home on this list, I know I'm gonna like it there. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer Many, many guns. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 00:06:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 01:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post In-Reply-To: References: <001101cc0866$2d54a470$87fded50$@net> Message-ID: Damned kids! Always roaring around at break-neck speed scaring the chickens and older folks!! Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, wrote: > I hope you're wearing your helmet Frankie. ...bill in oregon > ========================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frankie Clarici 4th > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:14 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post > > My fathers bike is a blast to drive. He drove it down to my house late > Sunday night that he got it running. A friend with a speedometer on his > bike > confirmed that it does a steady 15mph. > > Frankie > ========================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:04 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post > > I was reading the latest issue of Make Magazine and they had a little > tidbit > on > putting a small 50cc motor on a bicycle. There's a bunch online store > selling these kits for about $140. > This is sort of the like the motor Frank had discussed in his last post. > > Here is a nice conversion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vUzqlexgQ > > I thought it would be neat to throw one of these on a track bike I have. > Heck, > I could even commute to work on the nice days and save some serious gas > money. > > That is, until I found out that, in most states, these are not road legal. > In > Pennsylvania, you will get pulled over an slapped with $160 fine. The issue > is > you need to register and be insured and you can't register it because > you have no title or VIN. > > The only way I think I can get around this is to do what the cobra kit car > folks do. Just take a look at the back of Hemmings to see what they are > selling old Ford roadster titles for. > > Anybody got a junk moped with a decent title they want to sell cheap? > > Oh yea there is the other fantasy method.. "Application for Specially > constructed Vehicle" That's where I take my motor converted bike to the > local > motorcycle shop/inspection station and somehow convince them to perform a > safety > evaluation and help me get a new title. > The problem here is that it's not in their interest to do this > because they would rather sell me a new moped! > > The rub for me is this: > http://www.ezscooternv.com/currie/bicycle_law.htm > > Basically if I want to put a 1hp electric motor on my bike it's fine > I don't even need to register it! Federally mandated! > > But I'm not allowed to put a little 1hp gas motor on my bike! > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 00:18:34 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 01:18:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <183642.93378.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <183642.93378.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lock and Load, Mike!! Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: > I just joined a Harley discussion group and found they have a separate > forum > for guns. Not sure what that has to do with Harleys, but just like my home > on > this list, I know I'm gonna like it there. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > Many, many guns. From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 2 00:19:41 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 01:19:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I was stunned by the Flying Scot's photo In-Reply-To: References: <02ad01cc085e$6b3d76c0$41b86440$@net> Message-ID: <-7395379085832744200@unknownmsgid> > I remember "Dan Gurney for President." I Go Pogo! From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon May 2 01:13:55 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 00:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <897753.83551.qm@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley... Mike --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Jim Johnson wrote: Lock and Load, Mike!! Cheers!! Jim From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon May 2 03:16:42 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco / expenses of the stuff? In-Reply-To: <002901cc085d$899a6700$9ccf3500$@rr.com> References: <006e01cc081d$9483a130$bd8ae390$@net> <1503186507.210876.1304272212747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <002901cc085d$899a6700$9ccf3500$@rr.com> Message-ID: <306172.54394.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> the last car i painted was last summer. (brit content coming) it was an elden 1972 formula ford. car was disassembled in 2002 (completly disassembled down to the hewland transaxle as well as engine were in pieces in boxes with the chassis still rolling on dry rotted slicks) and handed to two other people before i got what was left of it to reassemble for it's owner in virginia. some fiberglass damage from years of getting shuffled around as well as years of competition quick at event repairs to un-do. point of this mention is the car is not big like spridgets are not big cars , right. the total material cost including a gallon of fiberglass resin was just over 700.00 using base coat / clear coat in a two tone blue with white stripe like the gurney eagles of the 60's had. i was stunned at the material cost! ok stunned is what i can safely type here. i do not know what happened to material cost over recent years but this stuff has really gotten expensive! i remember (i think it was when dinaraurs still roamed the earth?) spending around 100.00 to 150.00 for paint materials to do catalised enamel in one color. many shops that are big enough have in house mixing systems so buying by the quart or gallon or 5 gallon pail (like "clean up" laquer thinner ) is not an issue like it is for those who are not a big auto body business. having bulk materials and in house mixing limited quantities makes estimates like 1000.00 for work (including repairs) almost believeable. also shops who do fabrication or restoration are becoming a thing of the past or are frequented by projects that are high dollar type of work. it's all about how fast can you push out how much work to beat flat rate estimates in order to generate maximum gross profit. and i fear at "gross" end results. you have no idea how many cars are turned out by mass production shops that have numerous flaws or literally omitted pieces you can not see. it's frightening atthe least!. chuck weather drying out? where? i walked out of the shop last night around 8:30 / 9:00 and it was raining......again! i have to finish clear coating my baby harley's tank. it's too darn humid or too cold for the paint to catalise. we had april showers...i'm seeing a few may flowers. now how about some warm sunny days? ________________________________ From: Chris Manuel To: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 8:11:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco I'm with Dean- My Sprite will never be smooth and flawless, but the Rustoleum solution is working for me. As soon as the weather dries out for a while I'll be putting on the final coat. Yes, the sponge brush paint job posted online works. No, I won't be showing it. Chris From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon May 2 03:29:09 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:29:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <897753.83551.qm@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <897753.83551.qm@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02f301cc08ab$6513d490$2f3b7db0$@net> Michael MacLean wrote: "Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley..." Wait a minute! Do you mean all those Nazi soldiers riding their motorcycles and wearing Wehrmacht helmets are unarmed????? Buster From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 2 03:41:24 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 05:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paint shop fiasco Message-ID: <22ad4.4253c3d4.3aefd644@aol.com> Yep, and if $1000 only gets a really crap paint job because that's all they do for $1000 they ought to give him his money back so he save up for a $3000 job. The paint shop's problem is that they either can't do a decent job for $1000 and so shouldn't have taken the job or advised you get a crap job for that price or they can't do a decent job at any price. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 01/05/2011 21:38:43 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Whether Ryan got the deal of the century at $1000 really doesn't matter here. He had a contract to do the job at that price. In this state (WI) it doesn't even matter if he got it in writing as an oral contract is just as enforceable as a written contract. I suspect that is the case in most states. They had an agreement and the shop needs to live up to it even if they lose money on the deal. At this point they have breached the contract. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 2 03:49:06 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 05:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I was stunned by the Flying Scot's photo Message-ID: <22c31.1e05e1cf.3aefd812@aol.com> Well I don't remember the van! _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqdIsBJT0A_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnqdIsBJT0A) - turn up the sound Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 02/05/2011 01:40:18 GMT Daylight Time, corvallis at peoplepc.com writes: I remember "Dan Gurney for President." . . . bill in corvallis From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon May 2 03:51:44 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <897753.83551.qm@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <897753.83551.qm@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Road kill -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:14 AM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley... Mike --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Jim Johnson wrote: Lock and Load, Mike!! Cheers!! Jim Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon May 2 03:59:47 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <02f301cc08ab$6513d490$2f3b7db0$@net> Message-ID: <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I meant legally, as if that would happen. And heck, you see some of these jokers on Hondas with Nazi helmets. These wannabes are out to ruin biker scum reputations. Mike --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Robert Evans wrote: From: Robert Evans Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:29 AM Michael MacLean wrote: "Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley..." Wait a minute! Do you mean all those Nazi soldiers riding their motorcycles and wearing Wehrmacht helmets are unarmed????? Buster Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 2 07:14:10 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:14:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update on my favorite car which I don't know when it will be in production, VW Micro Bus (compact). Well I forgot my cell phone and camera but managed to find this link that shows exactly what I saw with the exception f the fold down seats. enjoy I'm holding out for this funky beauty. http://www.roadandtrack.com/auto-shows/geneva/volkswagen-bulli-concept/gallery Lin On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > If anyone here in the east is heading to the NYC Car show > http://www.autoshowny.com/show/directions/subway > > I'll be heading out via train a in few. I'll probably be checking out the > Fiat and Electric cars as well as VW Porsche etc. : ) > Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 2 07:33:28 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:33:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Below is the link I made on the samba site with photos of what I saw plus a small video. I wish VW would post the video they had on the 20 foot video screen it showed all the seats folding down. Lin enjoy: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=462412 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Update on my favorite car which I don't know when it will be in production, > VW Micro Bus (compact). > Well I forgot my cell phone and camera but managed to find this link that > shows exactly what I saw with the exception f the fold down seats. > enjoy I'm holding out for this funky beauty. > > http://www.roadandtrack.com/auto-shows/geneva/volkswagen-bulli-concept/gallery > > Lin > > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> If anyone here in the east is heading to the NYC Car show >> http://www.autoshowny.com/show/directions/subway >> >> I'll be heading out via train a in few. I'll probably be checking out the >> Fiat and Electric cars as well as VW Porsche etc. : ) >> Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 2 07:34:57 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:34:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] See the new Fiat 500 today In-Reply-To: References: <988D80BD975C46B688F9F865FB991C0B@RickPC> Message-ID: Saw the new 500 yesterday at the NYC car show nice but no workable arm rest : ( Lin On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Salespeople usually reduce things to the daily cost and propose skipping a > coffee per day. I tend to want to know the yearly cost. Are you really > going > to cut out one daily cup of coffee every time you buy something? > My Subaru calls for premium. As prices went up, I started to balk and > considered using a lesser grade until I realized that the premium does not > contain ethanol. > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > From: refisk at chartermi.net > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:11:23 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] See the new Fiat 500 today > > > > I always get a chuckle out of people who say they won't buy a car because > it > > requires premium gas. Around here premium gas is always 20 cents more > per > > gallon than regular. One of my cars requires premium gas and has an 18 > > gallon fuel tank. If it's bone dry when I fill it the premium gas costs > an > > extra $3.60 over the cost of regular. C'mon people - thats one cup of > > coffee at Starbucks (and the gas tastes better than Starbuck's coffee). > > :-) > > > > The Fiat 500 has a 10.5 gallon tank. An extra $2 to fill up with > premium. > > If you can't afford an extra $2 you probably should buy a bicycle > instead. > > > > Rick > > > > > > From: "Allen Hefner" > > To: "Spridgets list" > > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] See the new Fiat 500 today > > > > > > > The full report wasn't bad, but Fiat is cutting their own throat by > > > recommending premium gas for a LIC. With gas topping 4 bucks for > regular, > > > people aren't going to buy a 500 for its "cute" factor. They see a > tiny > > > car > > > and expect it to get 40mpg on regular. Smart Car made the same > mistake. > > > > > > Allen Hefner > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From heard at datatrontech.net Mon May 2 07:45:05 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:45:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder Message-ID: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> What do I have to do to remove the clutch slave from my stock '60 Bugeye? Thanks, Heard From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 2 07:55:19 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:55:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 Message-ID: List, I don't know about you guys/gals but I hate when folks hack a good Spridget with "metal work". I also hate when people feel the need to advertise their cars with a female. To me it's like saying "if I put a female in the photo it may get noticed and sell better because my car isn't that great or I'm asking too much" ; ) Well maybe if I ever sell Pinky which will be when I turn in my drivers license at 99 years old I'll just have to put a hot male body builder in the photo to spark some interest in the female sports car drivers area ....wink. Off my soap box. I hope I made someone laugh, with Frank gone it is hard to do. Lin *http://tinyurl.com/6awhq4r* Item number:120718504761 From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 2 07:57:59 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:57:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmm, too bad they didn't see fit to design in the cleavage of the old original VW microbus! (Or include the rakes and hoes and implements of destruction.) David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 2 08:20:37 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:20:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> Message-ID: > What do I have to do to remove the clutch slave from my stock '60 Bugeye? One bolt is easy, the other one is blocked by the subframe rail. Ratcheting gearwrench will make it easier. Removing the bolts from the RH motormount bracket should allow you to jack the engine up enough to remove the other one. A common mod at this point is to slice the mounting ear of the difficult one to make it into a slot so that the bolt only needs to be loosened, not removed. Another common mod is to replace the bolt with a stud just long enough to locate the cylinder (but not long enough to put a nut onto), leaving the clamping duties to the other bolt. Makes it easier the next time. Pressure bleeding will be your friend when you re-assemble. David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 2 08:28:01 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:28:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I don't know about you guys/gals but I hate when folks hack a good Spridget > with "metal work". I also hate when people feel the need to advertise their > cars with a female. To me it's like saying "if I put a female in the photo > it may get noticed and sell better because my car isn't that great or I'm > asking too much" ; ) Well maybe if I ever sell Pinky which will be when I > turn in my drivers license at 99 years old I'll just have to put a hot male > body builder in the photo to spark some interest in the female sports car > drivers area ....wink. You sexist piglet ;-) Why do you assume it isn't HER car? After all, she is the only person in any of the photos, two of which show her in the driver's seat. How would you like it if someone said that about your ad for your Westphalia (if and when?) just cuz you were in a couple of the pictures? That said, you are probably right, although "Spidy" sounds more like a female seller than a male to me. I am still trying to understand why they reduced the clearance for the sake of dual exhaust. David L Just kidding you, Lin! From jfishbein at snet.net Mon May 2 08:31:55 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 07:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Message-ID: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Alright fellow listers, Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions that the automatic transmission may not be original. http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw jay fishbein wallingford, ct From peter at nosimport.com Mon May 2 08:34:19 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:34:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> Message-ID: <201105020734729.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> If you want to rebuild it.... don't remove it. If you want to replace it, morph really small fingers, and develop lots of patience; unless the SPO shortened the upper bolt by 3/8 of an inch. You can see the bolt at issue through the RH side footwell plug..... but you can't turn it from there. Also, a hint, fill the master to very full, and put a plastic bag over the cap hole, and install the cap, that way little fluid escapes saving you weeks of fluid-letting. Peter C === At 08:45 AM 5/2/2011, Heard Saxon wrote: >What do I have to do to remove the clutch slave from my stock '60 Bugeye? > >Thanks, >Heard From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 2 08:37:34 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:37:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicago In-Reply-To: <857711.18586.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <857711.18586.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't care for blues myself, at least not Chicago electric blues (good delta blues are a different story), so I can't help you much in that direction. There is a small concert space in Evanston called SPACE which features intimate performances by some decent people. Check out the schedule at http://www.evanstonspace.com The Museum of Science and Industry is always worth the trip http://www.msichicago.org/ There is a good fireworks display near Navy Pier every year. If you go out on the pier, be aware that it is best to find a good seat and wait patiently after the show or else leave early; I have never been in such a crush as when trying to leave after the show (at least not in this country). Fireworks cruises are also available. http://www.navypier.com/things2do/fireworks.html David L From heard at datatrontech.net Mon May 2 08:46:28 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:46:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: <201105020734729.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> <201105020734729.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <018901cc08d7$b7f7e850$27e7b8f0$@net> I think I'll have to remove it. I can't break the bleeder loose. I was wondering if I could jack up the engine or some such to get that one bolt out. Sounds like I'll use Dave's suggestion. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:34 AM To: Heard Saxon; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder If you want to rebuild it.... don't remove it. If you want to replace it, morph really small fingers, and develop lots of patience; unless the SPO shortened the upper bolt by 3/8 of an inch. You can see the bolt at issue through the RH side footwell plug..... but you can't turn it from there. Also, a hint, fill the master to very full, and put a plastic bag over the cap hole, and install the cap, that way little fluid escapes saving you weeks of fluid-letting. Peter C === At 08:45 AM 5/2/2011, Heard Saxon wrote: >What do I have to do to remove the clutch slave from my stock '60 Bugeye? > >Thanks, >Heard From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon May 2 08:52:01 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 07:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Let me know when you want me to come by to pose for your ad! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 9:55:19 AM Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 List, I don't know about you guys/gals but I hate when folks hack a good Spridget with "metal work". I also hate when people feel the need to advertise their cars with a female. To me it's like saying "if I put a female in the photo it may get noticed and sell better because my car isn't that great or I'm asking too much" ; ) Well maybe if I ever sell Pinky which will be when I turn in my drivers license at 99 years old I'll just have to put a hot male body builder in the photo to spark some interest in the female sports car drivers area ....wink. Off my soap box. I hope I made someone laugh, with Frank gone it is hard to do. Lin *http://tinyurl.com/6awhq4r* Item number:120718504761 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon May 2 09:05:58 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:05:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: chevette engine On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay wrote: > Alright fellow listers, > > Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? > > One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions > that > the automatic transmission may not be original. > > http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw > > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 2 09:12:59 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1764949902.220510.1304349179917.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Is 71 pictures - just of the body - from two different locations - really enough?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions that the automatic transmission may not be original. http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon May 2 09:13:11 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:13:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DBECA07.4060500@wi.net> Whoa! LED's along the rocker! Nice touch ;-) Body looks nice, tho the bootlid looks sprung or do they all have an "over-bite" when shut? (I have a Bugeye...what's a boot-lid?) Shifter looks Ford and could the engine be from a 2L Pinto? Just a guess. Too bad they didn't take the time and/or $$$ to cleanup the engine bay. Deteriorated rubber on the windscreen wiper motor leaves me wondering what else needs to be done. Sharp looking car though but many projects left to do. My $.02 Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 5/2/2011 9:31 AM, Jay wrote: > Alright fellow listers, > > Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? > > One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions that > the automatic transmission may not be original. > > http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw > > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon May 2 09:21:29 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> Message-ID: <595272.14837.qm@web112712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> you fergot ta disconnect da hydraulic pipe..... chuck. ________________________________ From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> To: Heard Saxon ; Spridgets Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 10:20:37 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder > What do I have to do to remove the clutch slave from my stock '60 Bugeye? One bolt is easy, the other one is blocked by the subframe rail. Ratcheting gearwrench will make it easier. Removing the bolts from the RH motormount bracket should allow you to jack the engine up enough to remove the other one. A common mod at this point is to slice the mounting ear of the difficult one to make it into a slot so that the bolt only needs to be loosened, not removed. Another common mod is to replace the bolt with a stud just long enough to locate the cylinder (but not long enough to put a nut onto), leaving the clamping duties to the other bolt. Makes it easier the next time. Pressure bleeding will be your friend when you re-assemble. David L _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 2 09:28:43 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <2117858831.1858163.1304350110675.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <826819637.1858171.1304350122987.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I will guess a Ford Pinto. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 7:31:55 AM Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Alright fellow listers, Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions that the automatic transmission may not be original. http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw jay fishbein wallingford, ct Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 2 09:45:11 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17795702.1858507.1304351111175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> In Nevada, you can legally carry a loaded weapon in your vehicle without a permit. This, of course, assumes you are legally able to own a weapon. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Robert Evans" Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 2:59:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group I meant legally, as if that would happen. And heck, you see some of these jokers on Hondas with Nazi helmets. These wannabes are out to ruin biker scum reputations. Mike --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Robert Evans wrote: From: Robert Evans Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:29 AM Michael MacLean wrote: "Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley..." Wait a minute! Do you mean all those Nazi soldiers riding their motorcycles and wearing Wehrmacht helmets are unarmed????? Buster Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon May 2 10:00:35 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:00:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Let me try this again... Chevette Engine: *http://tinyurl.com/5uh3yx2* On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > chevette engine > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay wrote: > >> Alright fellow listers, >> >> Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? >> >> One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions >> that >> the automatic transmission may not be original. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw >> >> >> jay fishbein >> wallingford, ct >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 2 10:01:45 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:01:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Let me know when you want me to come by to pose for your ad! Darn, wish I'da thunk of that! Just send her some shots and she can photochop them in. Try to look like you are hugging a van... David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 2 10:03:36 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:03:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: <595272.14837.qm@web112712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> <595272.14837.qm@web112712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > you fergot ta disconnect da hydraulic pipe..... Oh yeah, I am not accustomed to original Bugeye plumbing. All of mine have flex hoses, so it is easier to disconnect them after removal. By all means undo the pipe while the engine is holding the cylinder for you! David L From jfishbein at snet.net Mon May 2 10:13:28 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <1764949902.220510.1304349179917.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1764949902.220510.1304349179917.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <398165.6759.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Waiting for them to download to my iPhone, my reaction was similar to yours but a bit stronger. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 11:12:59 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Is 71 pictures - just of the body - from two different locations - really enough?? -- From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 2 10:38:49 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 Message-ID: <61e75.401e5ca4.3af03819@aol.com> I guess it depends on the female in question? I hated the door mirrors. Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 02/05/2011 15:13:30 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: To me it's like saying "if I put a female in the photo it may get noticed and sell better because my car isn't that great or I'm asking too much" ; From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 2 10:42:25 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Message-ID: <621eb.3e51aa75.3af038f1@aol.com> Ford OHC Pinto in either 1600cc or 2000cc Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 02/05/2011 16:00:18 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: Alright fellow listers, Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions that the automatic transmission may not be original. http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw jay fishbein wallingford, ct From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon May 2 10:46:20 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:46:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DBEDFDC.80102@wi.net> Yup! That's it all right. Not a bad job on the "TD". Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 5/2/2011 10:05 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > chevette engine > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay wrote: > >> Alright fellow listers, >> >> Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? >> >> One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions >> that >> the automatic transmission may not be original. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw >> >> >> jay fishbein >> wallingford, ct >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 10:53:31 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:53:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <17795702.1858507.1304351111175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <17795702.1858507.1304351111175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there.... IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it is not concealed. Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip be considered "not concealed"? @Mike, We currently have a nice commemorative Ruger Special Edition if you are interested.... I'll send you a link off the list. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > In Nevada, you can legally carry a loaded weapon in your vehicle without a > permit. This, of course, assumes you are legally able to own a weapon. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael MacLean" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Robert Evans" > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 2:59:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group > > I meant legally, as if that would happen. And heck, you see some of these > jokers on Hondas with Nazi helmets. These wannabes are out to ruin biker > scum > reputations. > Mike > > --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Robert Evans wrote: > > From: Robert Evans > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:29 AM > > Michael MacLean wrote: "Now if only the People Democratic Republic of > Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley..." > > Wait a minute! Do you mean all those Nazi soldiers riding their > motorcycles > and wearing Wehrmacht helmets are unarmed????? > > Buster > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 11:00:37 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:00:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: As a representative of FOMAL (Fat Old Men Anti-defamation League) I am filing a discrimination suit on Linda. And on any young, muscular men out there that send her pictures! Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Let me know when you want me to come by to pose for your ad! > > Darn, wish I'da thunk of that! Just send her some shots and she can > photochop them in. Try to look like you are hugging a van... > David L > ________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 11:04:23 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:04:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> <595272.14837.qm@web112712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mind the ground strap. Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > you fergot ta disconnect da hydraulic pipe..... > > Oh yeah, I am not accustomed to original Bugeye plumbing. All of mine > have flex hoses, so it is easier to disconnect them after removal. By > all means undo the pipe while the engine is holding the cylinder for > you! > David L From lists at dinospider.com Mon May 2 11:07:33 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:07:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DBEE4D5.3070208@dinospider.com> Its not using sex to sell the car when you put a girl in the picture. Cars are already female, well maybe not my truck but real cars are female, so by putting another female next to the car you are working on every guys fantasy of girl-on-girl. The ad is not saying buy this car and this girl will have sex with you, you are saying buy this car and you will get to watch (and likely only watch) girl-on-girl. See you are looking at that ad incorrectly :) And before you sell Pinky please warn me so I can keep my wife off the internet that week, she does not need the temptation of another body builder and Pinky. mike On 05/02/2011 06:55 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > .. List, > I don't know about you guys/gals but I hate when folks hack a good Spridget > with "metal work". I also hate when people feel the need to advertise their > cars with a female. To me it's like saying "if I put a female in the photo > it may get noticed and sell better because my car isn't that great or I'm > asking too much" ; ) Well maybe if I ever sell Pinky which will be when I > turn in my drivers license at 99 years old I'll just have to put a hot male > body builder in the photo to spark some interest in the female sports car > drivers area ....wink. > > Off my soap box. I hope I made someone laugh, with Frank gone it is hard to > do. > Lin > > *http://tinyurl.com/6awhq4r* > > Item number:120718504761 > _____________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 11:15:55 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:15:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Agree with Trevor. Didn't the Pinto use the same OHC 2 Liter as the Capri? There's no sign of the OHC on that engine as you should see the serpentine belt and pulley on the front of the rocker cover. I had a couple of Capris. The later one (1974?) had an auto in it and was a real dog! I think the OHC engine is too tall to cram into a Spridget bay. Did the Chevette come with an Auto tranny? Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Let me try this again... > Chevette Engine: *http://tinyurl.com/5uh3yx2* > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Trevor Jessie >wrote: > > > chevette engine > > > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay wrote: > > > >> Alright fellow listers, > >> > >> Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? > >> > >> One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only > mentions > >> that > >> the automatic transmission may not be original. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw > >> > >> > >> jay fishbein > >> wallingford, ct > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage : > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 2 11:19:06 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:19:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DBEE78A.7070501@justbrits.com> Jay Fishbein sayth and I.... Alright fellow listers, Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? I know, I know, I know !!!!! It *_*IS*_*: eBay sayth and I.... Unspecified Cylinder WHAT do I WIN, Jay ??? An *Innocenti *Bonnet emblem ?? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 11:20:14 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:20:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <4DBEDFDC.80102@wi.net> References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4DBEDFDC.80102@wi.net> Message-ID: Okay, I see the OHC now... bet the tranny is also from the Pinto/Capri. Explains the battery in the boot. What happened to the side trim? Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Woerpel wrote: > Yup! That's it all right. Not a bad job on the "TD". > > > Dave W. > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary > July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > > On 5/2/2011 10:05 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > >> chevette engine >> >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay wrote: >> >> Alright fellow listers, >>> >>> Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? >>> >>> One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions >>> that >>> the automatic transmission may not be original. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw >>> >>> >>> jay fishbein >>> wallingford, ct From pchast at francomm.com Mon May 2 11:22:46 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 13:22:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: References: <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <17795702.1858507.1304351111175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: In NYS it can't be reachable/unlocked in the vehicle cab without the proper permit. Don't even address loaded... On Mon, 02 May 2011 12:53:31 -0400, Jim Johnson wrote: > > This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there.... > IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it > is not concealed. Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip > be considered "not concealed"? > > @Mike, We currently have a nice commemorative Ruger Special > Edition if you are interested.... I'll send you a link off the list. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > >> In Nevada, you can legally carry a loaded weapon in your vehicle >> without a >> permit. This, of course, assumes you are legally able to own a weapon. >> >> Kate >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael MacLean" >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Robert Evans" >> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 2:59:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group >> >> I meant legally, as if that would happen. And heck, you see some of >> these >> jokers on Hondas with Nazi helmets. These wannabes are out to ruin >> biker >> scum >> reputations. >> Mike >> >> --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Robert Evans wrote: >> >> From: Robert Evans >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:29 AM >> >> Michael MacLean wrote: "Now if only the People Democratic Republic of >> Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley..." >> >> Wait a minute! Do you mean all those Nazi soldiers riding their >> motorcycles >> and wearing Wehrmacht helmets are unarmed????? >> >> Buster >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From lists at dinospider.com Mon May 2 11:25:48 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:25:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: References: <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <17795702.1858507.1304351111175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DBEE91C.4090707@dinospider.com> I can guarantee you that you will get stopped twice on the way to the range in Calif. if you have a exposed firearm on a motorcycle, even if it is not loaded. Luckily I did not have to ride home with it or I would have been stopped yet again, also I had no ammo for it anyway, my friend at the range was providing the ammo that day, so that made the stops shorter and more bearable. Interestingly I was never stopped when I had a rifle slung over my shoulder. mike On 05/02/2011 09:53 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there.... > IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it > is not concealed. Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip > be considered "not concealed"? > > @Mike, We currently have a nice commemorative Ruger Special > Edition if you are interested.... I'll send you a link off the list. > > Cheers!! > Jim From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Mon May 2 11:26:52 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:26:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] motor museums in UK Message-ID: Did anybody see my listing here of UK motor museums ? or did I waste my time ? Spent the week fitting an electric (72 midget ) rev counter into the Frogeye, refitting headlamps and new dipswitch - works great now the wire smoke damaged wires been replaced. New ign. switch and new bulbs and wiring for all instruments, much easier to do with steering wheel removed and dashboard out, fitted a new felt bush in steering column. Removed the ground wires running from the plastic headlamp shells to the fibre glass bonnet - don't know what they were for ! Then, Had a great ride in the frogeye this weekend 100 mile round trip both days, to Donington historic car racing. (try googling it ) 65 mph at 4500 rpm (speedo said 105 mph ) GPS disagreed ! Did a few laps in the car on Sunday (along with MGBs, ETypes, Ferrari Dino's etc ), 7-8 frogeyes and a some midgets turned out for a sunny but windy excellent couple of days racing. (pre WW2 grand prix cars bentleys Bugattis Talbots and a very pretty MG , LEMans cars , a big grid odpre 70 formula 2 cars etc etc etc great noisy racing - like it used to be ! Oh and its not just spridgets that break halfshafts , an Aston Martin lost a wheel at Redgate corner, the driver asked the marshels if they would retrieve the brake shoes from the kitty litter - I have photos Alan Warwick UK. __________________________________ Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com/get From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Mon May 2 11:39:53 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:39:53 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/68g3jnf this is on tonight in UK have a look at the two video clips if you like flying & bombs etc I realise of course theWW2 Dambusters (633 squadron) might not mean anything to you Yanks ! Rgds Alan __________________________________ Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com/get From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 2 11:42:09 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 12:42:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: References: <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <17795702.1858507.1304351111175.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DBEECF1.4000500@justbrits.com> << This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there... >> Actually, that is something being "tested", JJ. << IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it is not concealed. >> Just in the past few months, I was reading about "events" being held [ being sponsored I suppose by NRA ?!? ] that is for folks walking in their 'downtowns', parks, Cafes [ Starbucks being mentioned ], and other very 'public' places whilst being "strapped" [loaded & unloaded]. It is being done in States that do NOT have "concealed carry" laws but general Firearms Laws [sorta ? ] allow the "Open Carry". They are either "left alone", checked for "Legal Weapon Ownership", checked for "General I.D.", or ignored. << Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip be considered "not concealed"? >> By the foregoing, it WOULD be 'legal' !!! [Colt Peacemaker ?? ] I think I read the 'feeder' on The Healeys List and there was a newspaper [ WSJ ???] link which explained in detail. "Train Driver Mike" or "Two-way Radio Mark", do youse recall ?? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon May 2 11:45:37 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:45:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> Message-ID: I have been able to work my arm up around the frame, from back near the transmission, and loosen it that way. It isn't comfortable, but for me, it IS doable. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > What do I have to do to remove the clutch slave from my stock '60 Bugeye? > > Thanks, > Heard > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 2 11:46:49 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: <4DBEE4D5.3070208@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <1670844246.1860882.1304358409609.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Most of my cars have been female, but at present Madge Midget is my only female car. Barry LeBaron, Brutus F-350, Deuce Comanche, and Old Blue Cherokee are all definitely male. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 10:07:33 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 Its not using sex to sell the car when you put a girl in the picture. Cars are already female, well maybe not my truck but real cars are female, From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 2 11:54:48 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <920292342.1861020.1304358888523.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> In NV, the weapon may be concealed within the vehicle without having a CCW permit. In Clark County, it is recommended to carry a copy of the statute, as the local constabulary choose not to honor state law in this regard. I keep mine in the space beside the driver's seat when it is not concealed upon my person. A friend has a holster attached to his driver's door. Without the permit, open carry upon your person is legal. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 9:53:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there.... IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it is not concealed. Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip be considered "not concealed"? @Mike, We currently have a nice commemorative Ruger Special Edition if you are interested.... I'll send you a link off the list. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > In Nevada, you can legally carry a loaded weapon in your vehicle without a > permit. This, of course, assumes you are legally able to own a weapon. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael MacLean" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Robert Evans" > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 2:59:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group > > I meant legally, as if that would happen. And heck, you see some of these > jokers on Hondas with Nazi helmets. These wannabes are out to ruin biker > scum > reputations. > Mike > > --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Robert Evans wrote: > > From: Robert Evans > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:29 AM > > Michael MacLean wrote: "Now if only the People Democratic Republic of > Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley..." > > Wait a minute! Do you mean all those Nazi soldiers riding their > motorcycles > and wearing Wehrmacht helmets are unarmed????? > > Buster > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon May 2 11:55:05 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:55:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <02f301cc08ab$6513d490$2f3b7db0$@net> <941853.23923.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <031a01cc08f2$128b03f0$37a10bd0$@net> Michael MacLean wrote: "I meant legally, as if that would happen. And heck, you see some of these jokers on Hondas with Nazi helmets. These wannabes are out to ruin biker scum reputations." Hey Mike, have you noticed Anaheim (and perhaps other cities as well) motorcycle cops with assault weapons (M16/AR-15) mounted on the rear of their motors? Dumb as dog dirt, but cowboy cops (the dangerous ones) love the image. Of course when I was a cop in the 1960's, I objected to having to wear helmets even inside a black and white. I felt that it projected an unfavorable military image that would only provoke the macho idiots, and that John Q. Public would find offensive. The funny thing is that an acquaintance in town agreed with me whole-heartedly. Frank Link and I got along great. I knew he would try to get away with anything he could, and he knew I would bust him for anything (including riding his m/c on the sidewalk) I could catch him at. A leader of the Orange County Hell's Angels, he and I would shoot the breeze all the time (although we both "knew" he had supplied the shotgun that killed a cop), and he said that the chief was making a BIG mistake by making all of us wear helmets. He said it made us look like the Gestapo in our black uniforms with tons of leather. Frank was a real nasty piece of work, later making even worse headlines in Florida and Georgia (http://tinyurl.com/3pgtang, http://tinyurl.com/3hvta3t). Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon May 2 12:05:28 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:05:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <032901cc08f3$85d5fad0$9181f070$@net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: "Update on my favorite car which I don't know when it will be in production, VW Micro Bus (compact)." Alas, all of the mini-vans look alike, with little to distinguish them from the next make/model. That's why I'll keep my 1989 VW Vanagon we bought on the tourist delivery plan (saving a full 35% and having a car to drive in Europe). We were sold on the Vanagons after owning a 1984 and 1985. The interior was so big that we were able to take two trips from sea to shining sea, putting each of our three children in different corners and telling them, "Don't even TOUCH each other." It was also big enough to carry several sheets of plywood or drywall, or sofas and other large furniture, or a couple of Sprite engines. They don't make 'em like that any more! Buster Evans From heard at datatrontech.net Mon May 2 12:11:41 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:11:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder In-Reply-To: References: <017101cc08cf$251a12e0$6f4e38a0$@net> Message-ID: <01bd01cc08f4$6363f780$2a2be680$@net> Loosening is no problem. Removal is. From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:46 PM To: Heard Saxon Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clutch slave cylinder I have been able to work my arm up around the frame, from back near the transmission, and loosen it that way. It isn't comfortable, but for me, it IS doable. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: What do I have to do to remove the clutch slave from my stock '60 Bugeye? Thanks, Heard Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 2 12:32:47 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <53530853.223805.1304361166988.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I bought the 2 DVD set of the real thing. It includes live footage, in color, of an actual raid over Berlin, from briefing to return. Donate by the widow of the man that filmed it. The only color record around.. Fabulous.! BTW some of us 'Yanks' were Brits -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" I realise of course theWW2 Dambusters (633 squadron) might not mean anything to you Yanks ! Rgds Alan __________________________________ Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com/get Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kk7ss at frontier.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 2 12:41:33 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <538691705.223934.1304361545153.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1079831428.223989.1304361693279.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> In WA, open carry is permitted. We have an sort of semi-annual picnic in the city park (BYOBBQ) where folks get to openly carry their chosen weapon. Permit required for concealed carry. WA is a "shall issue" state if you are over 21 and not a felon. Carry not permitted on Federal property, schools and in parks owned by the Corps of Engineers. There are a few other exceptions. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net11 In NV, the weapon may be concealed within the vehicle without having a CCW permit. In Clark County, it is recommended to carry a copy of the statute, as the local constabulary choose not to honor state law in this regard. I keep mine in the space beside the driver's seat when it is not concealed upon my person. A friend has a holster attached to his driver's door. Without the permit, open carry upon your person is legal. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 9:53:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there.... IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it is not concealed. Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip be considered "not concealed"? @Mike, We currently have a nice commemorative Ruger Special Edition if you are interested.... I'll send you a link off the list. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > In Nevada, you can legally carry a loaded weapon in your vehicle without a > permit. This, of course, assumes you are legally able to own a weapon. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael MacLean" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Robert Evans" > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 2:59:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group > > I meant legally, as if that would happen. And heck, you see some of these > jokers on Hondas with Nazi helmets. These wannabes are out to ruin biker > scum > reputations. > Mike > > --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Robert Evans wrote: > > From: Robert Evans > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:29 AM > > Michael MacLean wrote: "Now if only the People Democratic Republic of > Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley..." > > Wait a minute! Do you mean all those Nazi soldiers riding their > motorcycles > and wearing Wehrmacht helmets are unarmed????? > > Buster > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kk7ss at frontier.com From pvanwig at me.com Mon May 2 12:46:23 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:46:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. In-Reply-To: <032901cc08f3$85d5fad0$9181f070$@net> References: <032901cc08f3$85d5fad0$9181f070$@net> Message-ID: I sold my 70 Kombi bus with 425000 miles on the odometer. The transaxle was replaced at 425k new motors every 60 to 80K. But I had to replace the drivers window mechanism 3 times! On May 2, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Robert Evans wrote: Linda Grunthaner wrote: "Update on my favorite car which I don't know when it will be in production, VW Micro Bus (compact)." Alas, all of the mini-vans look alike, with little to distinguish them from the next make/model. That's why I'll keep my 1989 VW Vanagon we bought on the tourist delivery plan (saving a full 35% and having a car to drive in Europe). We were sold on the Vanagons after owning a 1984 and 1985. The interior was so big that we were able to take two trips from sea to shining sea, putting each of our three children in different corners and telling them, "Don't even TOUCH each other." It was also big enough to carry several sheets of plywood or drywall, or sofas and other large furniture, or a couple of Sprite engines. They don't make 'em like that any more! Buster Evans Paul Van Wig pvanwig at mac.com facebook.com/pvanwig "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 2 12:50:23 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] motor museums in UK Message-ID: <120da3.60db71f5.3af056ef@aol.com> Well I say them but I guess in my case you were wasting your time! Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 02/05/2011 18:46:42 GMT Daylight Time, alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com writes: Did anybody see my listing here of UK motor museums ? or did I waste my time ? From clarici at verizon.net Mon May 2 13:00:25 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 15:00:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. In-Reply-To: <032901cc08f3$85d5fad0$9181f070$@net> References: <032901cc08f3$85d5fad0$9181f070$@net> Message-ID: <422A1F49-721D-4A31-B80A-E824BD1BB362@verizon.net> Funny thing you mention that. I am eyeing up Eurovans for me and the family to use for towing my trailer and long road trips to Florida Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 2:05 PM, "Robert Evans" wrote: > Linda Grunthaner wrote: "Update on my favorite car which I don't know when > it will be in production, VW Micro Bus (compact)." > > Alas, all of the mini-vans look alike, with little to distinguish them from > the next make/model. That's why I'll keep my 1989 VW Vanagon we bought on > the tourist delivery plan (saving a full 35% and having a car to drive in > Europe). > > We were sold on the Vanagons after owning a 1984 and 1985. The interior was > so big that we were able to take two trips from sea to shining sea, putting > each of our three children in different corners and telling them, "Don't > even TOUCH each other." It was also big enough to carry several sheets of > plywood or drywall, or sofas and other large furniture, or a couple of > Sprite engines. They don't make 'em like that any more! > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon May 2 13:01:49 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:01:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Non-Spridget LBC project Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD0209AA3@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Still getting ready for the Rallye to Reno. The MG TD has brakes now, a bunch of fuses and relays, boiled out radiator, halogen headlights, a trailer hitch, a transistorized SU fuel pump, a transistorized voltage regulator, rebuilt wiper motor and dynamo, and directional signals. Yesterday, the new motor went in with its Brown & Gammons flywheel and rear seal, Cortina clutch, and Manley Ford roller throw out bearing. Hope to finish motor assembly this Friday and fire it up to be sure the pushrods are rotating as they are supposed to. Got 2 weeks until test day and about a month before "launch day." HooHa! JohnD www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon May 2 13:15:14 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 14:15:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: <53530853.223805.1304361166988.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <53530853.223805.1304361166988.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DBF02C2.1020800@wi.net> Am a big fan of the movie! Sir Michael Redgrave and Basil Sydney as "Bomber" Harris. Dave, I do not have the 2 DVD set. Is the video, of which you speak, in this collection? http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Dambusters-Collection-Stephen-Fry/dp/B0030Y11TM/ref=pd_cp_d_2 or http://tinyurl.com/6j6pz88 I loved the simple solution for determining the altitude for the drop. BTW, the Royal Wedding was fabulous, the Volante was a highlight, but where I really lost it was the fly-over by the Lanc, Spit, and Hurricane...AWESOME!! Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 5/2/2011 1:32 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I bought the 2 DVD set of the real thing. > It includes live footage, in color, of an actual raid over Berlin, from briefing to return. Donate by the widow of the man that filmed it. > The only color record around.. > Fabulous.! > > BTW some of us 'Yanks' were Brits > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan" > > I realise of > course theWW2 Dambusters (633 squadron) might not mean > anything to you > Yanks ! > Rgds > Alan > > > __________________________________ > Sent from eM > Client | www.emclient.com/get > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kk7ss at frontier.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 13:30:15 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:30:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Alan wrote: > > I realise of > course theWW2 Dambusters (633 squadron) might not mean > anything to you > Yanks ! > Of course most of us "Yanks" are old enough to have either read Brickhill's book or to have seen the famous 1955 film "Dam Busters". Additionally many of us do know who Barnes Wallis was and that he was known for his geodetic construction designs like the Wellington Bomber in addition to the rotating bomb used on the Ruhr dams. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046889/ -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 14:02:22 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:02:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. In-Reply-To: <032901cc08f3$85d5fad0$9181f070$@net> References: <032901cc08f3$85d5fad0$9181f070$@net> Message-ID: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Robert Evans wrote: putting > each of our three children in different corners and telling them, "Don't > even TOUCH each other." > Shoot! You only need 2 kids anyway. Behavior and obedience problems just melt away when you haul one out in front of the other two and beat them to death!! ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon May 2 14:03:53 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?cnlhbi5rdWJhbm9mZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 16:03:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Not_totally_LBC=3A_NYC_Car_Show_=2E=2E=2E?= =?utf-8?q?=2EI=27ll_be___there=2E?= Message-ID: <20110502200346.D07EA187652@autox.team.net> That's funny. Ryan Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" Date: Mon, May 2, 2011 3:00 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Not totally LBC: NYC Car Show ....I'll be there. To: "Robert Evans" Cc: "Spridget list" Funny thing you mention that. I am eyeing up Eurovans for me and the family to use for towing my trailer and long road trips to Florida Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2011, at 2:05 PM, "Robert Evans" wrote: > Linda Grunthaner wrote: "Update on my favorite car which I don't know when > it will be in production, VW Micro Bus (compact)." > > Alas, all of the mini-vans look alike, with little to distinguish them from > the next make/model. That's why I'll keep my 1989 VW Vanagon we bought on > the tourist delivery plan (saving a full 35% and having a car to drive in > Europe). > > We were sold on the Vanagons after owning a 1984 and 1985. The interior was > so big that we were able to take two trips from sea to shining sea, putting > each of our three children in different corners and telling them, "Don't > even TOUCH each other." It was also big enough to carry several sheets of > plywood or drywall, or sofas and other large furniture, or a couple of > Sprite engines. They don't make 'em like that any more! > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 2 14:13:31 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: <4DBF02C2.1020800@wi.net> Message-ID: <205853558.225650.1304367211244.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Yes... well worth the money... background, testing, failures, successes, etc. No crap about spotlights at the Palladium The footage of the raid is typically played low key. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woerpel" Dave, I do not have the 2 DVD set. Is the video, of which you speak, in this collection? http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Dambusters-Collection-Stephen-Fry/dp/B0030Y11TM/ref=pd_cp_d_2 or http://tinyurl.com/6j6pz88 From lmacy at mac.com Mon May 2 14:22:19 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 16:22:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D20DE92-F4A9-49C9-973B-77169F862621@mac.com> Can't get it here in the US. My COuntry Location is wrong. Too bad, I remember the stories and the movie. Larry On May 2, 2011, at 13:39 PM, Alan wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/68g3jnf > > > this is on tonight in UK > have a look > at the two video clips if you like flying & bombs etc > > I realise of > course theWW2 Dambusters (633 squadron) might not mean > anything to you > Yanks ! > Rgds > Alan > > > __________________________________ > Sent from eM > Client | www.emclient.com/get > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." -Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996 From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon May 2 14:26:02 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:26:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Message-ID: <6ed001cc0907$2811ad90$0168010a@mail2world.com> Definitely Chevette. Couple of friends had them in college. The auto tranny selector and console, the steering wheel, they're all out of the Chevette. You can even see the HEI distributor on the front of the engine. Chevettes had I think a 200R4 Auto or a Saginaw 4 speed manual... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: 5/2/2011 1:15:55 PM To: Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Agree with Trevor. Didn't the Pinto use the same OHC 2 Liter as the Capri? There's no sign of the OHC on that engine as you should see the serpentine belt and pulley on the front of the rocker cover. I had a couple of Capris. The later one (1974?) had an auto in it and was a real dog! I think the OHC engine is too tall to cram into a Spridget bay. Did the Chevette come with an Auto tranny? Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Let me try this again... > Chevette Engine: *http://tinyurl.com/5uh3yx2* > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Trevor Jessie >wrote: > > > chevette engine > > > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay wrote: > > > >> Alright fellow listers, > >> > >> Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? > >> > >> One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only > mentions > >> that > >> the automatic transmission may not be original. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw > >> > >> > >> jay fishbein > >> wallingford, ct > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage : > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu . From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Mon May 2 14:40:26 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 15:40:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DBF16BA.6050800@sbcglobal.net> Jim, No legal beagle here, but I would not recommend it. For example, in Missouri state law allows "open carry," but most cities and counties have ordinances against it. As a Kansan, or even a local, you would be hard pressed to know what is allowed. There is a fine line between open carry and brandishing. I have a CCW and if I'm carrying and the gun should peek out from under my shirt, I can be charged with brandishing. A good source of what is and is not permitted can be found at http://handgunlaw.us. A more important question would be why in the world would you want to carry a .45 on your hip while riding a bike? Are you trying to make a statement? If so, I guarantee it will be interpreted the opposite of your intent. You would look like a dick and appear to be compensating for lack of one of normal size. Lee On 5/2/2011 1:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > Cc:spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 9:53:31 AM > Subject: > > This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there.... > IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it > is not concealed. Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip > be considered "not concealed"? > > @Mike, We currently have a nice commemorative Ruger Special > Edition if you are interested.... I'll send you a link off the list. > > Cheers!! > Jim From theshoe5 at comcast.net Mon May 2 14:42:16 2011 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:42:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: References: <667780.2581.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><4DBEDFDC.80102@wi.net> Message-ID: <1FE562F341BC4B3696595DDD168E4271@AlanPC> Yep, That's the Chevette engine in there. You have to wonder why they did that. the 1275 made more power anyway! Alan Gruskos 59 Sprite > Okay, I see the OHC now... bet the tranny is also from the Pinto/Capri. > Explains the battery in the boot. What happened to the side trim? > >> >>> chevette engine >>> >>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay wrote: >>> >>> Alright fellow listers, >>>> >>>> Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? >>>> >>>> One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only >>>> mentions >>>> that >>>> the automatic transmission may not be original. >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw >>>> >>>> >>>> jay fishbein >>>> wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 15:12:10 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:12:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4DBF16BA.6050800@sbcglobal.net> References: <4DBF16BA.6050800@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Funny, Lee! Actually it was just a matter of intellectual curiosity. I do like to confound the courts and law enforcement whenever I get the chance. There is always something out there they never thought of! ;-) Cheers!! Jim - size 96 jock strap.... On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Lee Fox wrote: > Jim, > > No legal beagle here, but I would not recommend it. For example, in > Missouri state law allows "open carry," but most cities and counties have > ordinances against it. As a Kansan, or even a local, you would be hard > pressed to know what is allowed. > > There is a fine line between open carry and brandishing. I have a CCW and > if I'm carrying and the gun should peek out from under my shirt, I can be > charged with brandishing. A good source of what is and is not permitted can > be found at http://handgunlaw.us. > > A more important question would be why in the world would you want to carry > a .45 on your hip while riding a bike? Are you trying to make a statement? > If so, I guarantee it will be interpreted the opposite of your intent. You > would look like a dick and appear to be compensating for lack of one of > normal size. > > Lee > > On 5/2/2011 1:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Johnson" >> Cc:spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 9:53:31 AM >> Subject: >> >> This poses an interesting question for you legal beagles out there.... >> IN many states, it is legal to carry a loaded firearm as long as it >> is not concealed. Would riding a motorcycle with a .45 on your hip >> be considered "not concealed"? >> >> @Mike, We currently have a nice commemorative Ruger Special >> Edition if you are interested.... I'll send you a link off the list. >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From millerls at ado13.com Mon May 2 15:19:47 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:19:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SCCA Race At Laguna Seca Message-ID: I met a guy by the name of Harry Gentry from TN (Knoxville maybe). He was running a very fast 1962/63 Midget. Any of our TN listers know him? From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon May 2 15:21:50 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:21:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Backing up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C8F39F581884352A71A1EB0FF710E33@Home> >The hard part is backing > (reversing) out of parking slot onto the main road!! Not only is > everything > backward to a Yank, but it is backward again as well!! It can get worse: My new-to-me camper van has a toilet/shower compartment located exactly where you want to see out the right rear quarter for backing out of a parking slot. On that compartment door is a mirror that shows traffic coming from the other direction in the opposite lane. It is truly terrifying to be backing into a clear lane and suddenly have a rapidly-moving vehicle appear out of nowhere. Michael Rowe From millerls at ado13.com Mon May 2 15:27:19 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:27:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: <53530853.223805.1304361166988.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <53530853.223805.1304361166988.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Some of us also look at England as the mother country. On May 2, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > BTW some of us 'Yanks' were Brits > > -- From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 2 15:37:51 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 21:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: <8D20DE92-F4A9-49C9-973B-77169F862621@mac.com> Message-ID: <1641140781.227096.1304372271669.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Yes you can.!! Last time I checked WA is in the USA My local library bought a copy at my suggestion. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macy Larry" Can't get it here in the US. My COuntry Location is wrong. Too bad, I remember the stories and the movie. From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon May 2 15:47:47 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:47:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <224F0BE24CD949F0A6A9C2CA52837459@Home> > Here is a nice conversion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vUzqlexgQ I have a similar one that uses a hokey rubber mounting on the rear spokes for the chain sprocket. It is virtually impossible to get the sprocket centered perfectly, and the bike shakes so badly that I leave a trail of nuts and bolts like Hansel and Gretel wherever I go. It is an older model, so maybe now they have a proper hub mounting for the sprocket. Make sure before you buy one. Michael Rowe From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon May 2 16:03:40 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:03:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group Message-ID: Unless something has changed recently (I don't look at the RCW very often)... WA legislature and Governor expanded on the "felon" part of that a number of years ago to include a whole slew of misdemeanors. This actually took a bunch of police off the streets since under some of the new restrictions many of them were no longer legal to have and carry weapons. Has this been reset to only deny the permit if the applicant has "actual felonies" on their record? Rick B. ______________________________ From: Dave KK7SS Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In WA, open carry is permitted. We have an sort of semi-annual picnic in the city park (BYOBBQ) where folks get to openly carry their chosen weapon. Permit required for concealed carry. WA is a "shall issue" state if you are over 21 and not a felon. Carry not permitted on Federal property, schools and in parks owned by the Corps of Engineers. There are a few other exceptions. From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon May 2 17:51:04 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:51:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <897753.83551.qm@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <897753.83551.qm@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: They won't even let you have a gun!!! Come to Oregon...we have plenty guns. Our thoughts are simple, if you don't have 500 rounds for each weapon you own...you might be a red-neck. We think like Boy Scout's; be prepared. Herb On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: > Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me > shoot from my Harley... > > Mike From kentmclean at comcast.net Mon May 2 17:58:11 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 19:58:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DBF4513.8030705@comcast.net> Trevor Jessie wrote: > Let me try this again... > Chevette Engine: *http://tinyurl.com/5uh3yx2* Even used the steering wheel: My favorite: "Not sure if its original or a professional conversion" -- like those are the only 2 possible choices. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon May 2 18:33:08 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:33:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post In-Reply-To: <224F0BE24CD949F0A6A9C2CA52837459@Home> Message-ID: Zoombicycle??? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon May 2 18:34:52 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chicago Blues In-Reply-To: References: <857711.18586.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <384828.23268.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: David Lieb: "I don't care for blues myself, at least not Chicago electric blues (good delta blues are a different story), so I can't help you much in that direction..." Dave, ...So you're not a Stones fan either then, I take it? I'm reading Keith Richard's autobiography "Life" (Excellent book, by the way) and he makes the point over and over that all the Stones ever wanted to do was play the Chicago Blues. ...and Dave, not even Buddy? :-) David Booker Long Island From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon May 2 18:35:07 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:35:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <826819637.1858171.1304350122987.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <2117858831.1858163.1304350110675.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <826819637.1858171.1304350122987.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <375011D1AA2E4D5C8B8167C1FF8B6A49@t60> Agreed, I see Ford blue on the valve cover. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgb at frontiernet.net Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 11:29 AM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay Midget I will guess a Ford Pinto. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 7:31:55 AM Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Alright fellow listers, Who can correctly identify the engine in this car? One might assume it is the original engine since the seller only mentions that the automatic transmission may not be original. http://tinyurl.com/667vuaw From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon May 2 18:50:36 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428488.47203.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alan, Can't get it here because our "country of origin" is wrong. I guess it's the old PAL (Perfect And Lasting) vs. NTSC (Never The Same Color) thing again. Thanks for trying to educate us "Yanks" anyway. David Booker Long Island http://tinyurl.com/68g3jnf From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon May 2 18:55:20 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:55:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post In-Reply-To: References: <224F0BE24CD949F0A6A9C2CA52837459@Home> Message-ID: Yep. See? Now you gotta have one too.. I want to make one so bad, but the more research I do, the more I find that it's almost impossible to get it on the road legally. If I can get a hold of a cheap, old moped with a title I might attempt it. -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:33 PM To: Michael Rowe; Dean Hedin; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] continuing on with Frank's last post Zoombicycle??? From jfishbein at snet.net Mon May 2 18:57:01 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:57:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicago Blues In-Reply-To: <384828.23268.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <857711.18586.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <384828.23268.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <630902EC-2C94-457B-B7E2-B04DE42F6972@snet.net> There is much great music readily available to us today and so many different styles. Recorded music is as close as our computers and live music has never been so accessible. It can be cerebral or just something basic that moves our soul. It can sometimes be very difficult to understand why we gravitate toward one genre and reject another. But it makes no difference really. Just enjoy what you like and make no apologies.......unless it's rap or Dixieland. Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 2, 2011, at 8:34 PM, David Booker wrote: > From: David Lieb: "I don't care for blues myself, at least not Chicago electric blues > (good delta blues are a different story), so I can't help you much in > that direction..." > > Dave, > ...So you're not a Stones fan either then, I take it? I'm reading Keith Richard's autobiography "Life" (Excellent book, by the way) and he makes the point over and over that all the Stones ever wanted to do was play the Chicago Blues. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon May 2 19:04:00 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <4DBF4513.8030705@comcast.net> Message-ID: <152741.8326.qm@web161215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> This car is kind of a paradox. It looks nice on the outside and interior (although it's tough to gauge paint and bodywork in pictures) But the engine compartment is pretty icky. Then there's the driveline. Max power for the Shovit was 74 hp. Add the slushbox, and there's probably a performance downgrade from an original drivetrain. But the LEDs on the rockers are a nice touch. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Kent McLean wrote: From: Kent McLean Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay Midget To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 7:58 PM Trevor Jessie wrote: > Let me try this again... > Chevette Engine: *http://tinyurl.com/5uh3yx2* Even used the steering wheel: My favorite: "Not sure if its original or a professional conversion" -- like those are the only 2 possible choices. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon May 2 19:20:00 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 21:20:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <375011D1AA2E4D5C8B8167C1FF8B6A49@t60> References: <2117858831.1858163.1304350110675.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net><826819637.1858171.1304350122987.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <375011D1AA2E4D5C8B8167C1FF8B6A49@t60> Message-ID: <6F2A76E4EE494A92AD6DBF88B621A128@t60> Oops, missed crolling down to the other emails. It is indeed Chevette. Wow...There truly is no end to the variety of bastardizations. And just when I thought I had seen every kind of Bugeye rear deck modifications..then this car comes along. It always kills me when they swap the automatic in. They are just not learn'n stick - no how, no way... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:35 PM To: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay Midget Agreed, I see Ford blue on the valve cover. From lmacy at mac.com Mon May 2 19:27:18 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 21:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] film clip worth watching In-Reply-To: <1641140781.227096.1304372271669.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1641140781.227096.1304372271669.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1205C54E-A318-4FDF-9C20-1E6A3A6CC900@mac.com> No, I meant the link on the web page. Larry On May 2, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Yes you can.!! Last time I checked WA is in the USA > My local library bought a copy at my suggestion. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Macy Larry" > > Can't get it here in the US. My COuntry Location is wrong. > > Too bad, I remember the stories and the movie. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 From frog.aye at gmail.com Mon May 2 19:52:33 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:52:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Roundabouts (was Royal Wedding) In-Reply-To: <3d3901cc0782$f4db7df0$0168010a@mail2world.com> References: <3d3901cc0782$f4db7df0$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Hey, I bicycled La Place de l'Etoile (Arc de Triomphe) at morning rush hour once. The fact that I was towing a Bike Bugger may have had something to do with it but we were treated very well, no one cut us off or anything. Traffic and attitudes may not be as pleasant 35 years later..... Hal On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chris King wrote: > I've watched the traffic from the top of the Arc de Triomphe. I drive in > Jersey and I don't think I'd want to navigate that roundabout! > > -=Chris > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > <-----Original Message-----> > >From: Dave KK7SS [kk7ss at frontier.com] > >Sent: 4/29/2011 11:40:34 PM > >To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Roundabouts (was Royal Wedding) > > > >There is a roundabout near Lakenheath, England that consists of a 2FT > diameter > >Brass plate in the ground at the junction of 5 roads!! > > > >>From personal experience, I think the worst 'roundabout' I've ever > driven > >would either be the Arc de Triomphe in Paris or the Colosseum in Rome > .... both > >at rush hour!! > > > >-- > >Dave G KK7SS > >DN06ig Richland, WA > > > >'59 Morris Minor 1000 > >'65 Sprite - in process > >'76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > >'06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert Evans" earthlink.net> > > > >Larry Macy wrote: "I disagree, the roundabouts are NUTS, Nuts I say." > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu > > > >. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon May 2 20:03:41 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <941844.24690.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I retire form the railroad in six years. I AM planning on getting out of here along with my guns before they try to take them. I had thoughts of Arizona, but Oregon is something to think about. Mike --- On Mon, 5/2/11, WFO Herb wrote: From: WFO Herb Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group To: "Michael MacLean" Cc: "Jim Johnson" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:51 PM They won't even let you have a gun!!! Come to Oregon...we have plenty guns. Our thoughts are simple, if you don't have 500 rounds for each weapon you own...you might be a red-neck. We think like Boy Scout's; be prepared. Herb On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley... Mike From bkitterer at me.com Mon May 2 20:12:05 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 19:12:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] David Woerpel Message-ID: David, Please contact me off line. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From lmacy at mac.com Mon May 2 20:21:34 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:21:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dean of Spridgets Sticker - Frank Clarici III In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3658FD40-5C89-4378-96A4-983E419DF1B5@mac.com> Just a reminder, I will be closing the survey tonight. Get your requests in. We will likely have some in WI for the big party. FWIW, 281 stickers from 60 individuals. Larry On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > Fellow Spridgeteers, > > I want to announce a plan to allow you to add a little remembrance of the Dean of Spridgets to your car, tool box or forehead. Kevin, Phil, Rob, Ron and I got together and designed a little sticker for your car, toolbox or whatever. There are 2 sizes > Large - 4x2.67" and Small 3x2" The large ones will fit on the windscreen behind the mirror and the small ones will fit on the vent window, for those of us that have vent windows. We can also have them made in to an outside sticker (gooey stuff on the back) or an reverse sticker (gooey stuff on the front, inside the window style) > > Here is a link to a sample of the sticker so you can see what they will look like. They are a "Euro" oval style. > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8034540/Frank-Sticker-Small.jpg > > At Diane's request we are providing these at no cost to you folks. All we need is a number, size and a self addressed stamped envelope (SASE) sent to > > Kevin Valentine > P.O. Box 275 > Tuscarora, Pa. 17982 > > Since this is gratis, we also need to keep our costs down so we are using a SurveyMonkey site to judge numbers. We are also restricting the number of stickers to 5 to each home. Please go to > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FWYHSHQ > > and fill in the questions on how many of each type you want. Also add name and email. The survey will be open for 1 week, Until as late as I want to stay up on Monday night May 2. (they URL for the sticker sample is also on the survey form, but apparently SurveyMonkey does not recognize a hyperlink so it is a copy and paste job) > > Larry > > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > > "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EasternOshitGroup/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EasternOshitGroup/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > EasternOshitGroup-digest at yahoogroups.com > EasternOshitGroup-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > EasternOshitGroup-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From rdgard at cox.net Mon May 2 20:40:02 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:40:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> Hey, I just saw a new animated Geico commercial and the Lizzard was with a red Bug Eye. Real cute. Anyone else see it? It should be around for a while. bob Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com ************ From jfishbein at snet.net Mon May 2 21:15:37 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> References: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> Message-ID: <308434.41624.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm sure we'll see it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ..........................and it will convince Bugeye owners that Geico is on their side. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Bob Gardner To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 10:40:02 PM Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial Hey, I just saw a new animated Geico commercial and the Lizzard was with a red Bug Eye. Real cute. Anyone else see it? It should be around for a while. bob From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 2 21:47:50 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 03:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <146693567.1871399.1304394326886.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <117096359.1871436.1304394470227.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I put the for sale sign in my front yard the day I retired. The first thing Oregon will do is take 1/2 your pension in income tax, then most of the rest in property tax. Look at Nevada. I'm not talking about Clark County, which is merely an extension of Kalifornia, or Reno, which is nearly as bad, but check out the rest of the state. Plan on attending the Motorcycle Jamboree in Elko in June, and I will show you around this area. I won't be able to comp you a room that week, as just about every hotel in town is booked, but you can probably find something if you look around the internet. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" To: "WFO Herb" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 7:03:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group I retire form the railroad in six years. I AM planning on getting out of here along with my guns before they try to take them. I had thoughts of Arizona, but Oregon is something to think about. Mike --- On Mon, 5/2/11, WFO Herb wrote: From: WFO Herb Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Discussion Group To: "Michael MacLean" Cc: "Jim Johnson" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:51 PM They won't even let you have a gun!!! Come to Oregon...we have plenty guns. Our thoughts are simple, if you don't have 500 rounds for each weapon you own...you might be a red-neck. We think like Boy Scout's; be prepared. Herb On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: Now if only the People Democratic Republic of Kalifornia would only let me shoot from my Harley... Mike Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 2 21:58:57 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:58:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <152741.8326.qm@web161215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <152741.8326.qm@web161215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DBF7D81.3060901@justbrits.com> << But the LEDs on the rockers are a nice touch. >> Did anyone see/look over the Corvair Turbo F.I. ?? VERY KEWL !!!! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 2 23:45:37 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 00:45:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicago Blues In-Reply-To: <630902EC-2C94-457B-B7E2-B04DE42F6972@snet.net> References: <857711.18586.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <384828.23268.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <630902EC-2C94-457B-B7E2-B04DE42F6972@snet.net> Message-ID: Hey, hey, hey!!! I happen to love the Dukes of Dixie!! Nothing wrong with polyphonic jazz.... Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > There is much great music readily available to us today and so many > different > styles. Recorded music is as close as our computers and live music has > never > been so accessible. > > It can be cerebral or just something basic that moves our soul. > > It can sometimes be very difficult to understand why we gravitate toward > one > genre and reject another. > > But it makes no difference really. Just enjoy what you like and make no > apologies.......unless it's rap or Dixieland. > > Jay > -An iPhone communication- > > On May 2, 2011, at 8:34 PM, David Booker wrote: > > > From: David Lieb: "I don't care for blues myself, at least not Chicago > electric blues > > (good delta blues are a different story), so I can't help you much in > > that direction..." > > > > Dave, > > ...So you're not a Stones fan either then, I take it? I'm reading Keith > Richard's autobiography "Life" (Excellent book, by the way) and he makes > the > point over and over that all the Stones ever wanted to do was play the > Chicago > Blues. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue May 3 00:38:01 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 23:38:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> References: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> Message-ID: Hope someone gets it on tape. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Bob Gardner wrote: > Hey, > > I just saw a new animated Geico commercial and the Lizzard was with a red > Bug Eye. Real cute. Anyone else see it? It should be around for a while. > > bob > > Robert D. Gardner > > Gardner Productions LLC > Film and Video Production since 1978 > 619-460-1000 > www.gardnerproductions.com > > > ************ From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue May 3 04:00:14 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 03:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Overpressure Message-ID: <722390.72337.qm@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Since my 1275 rebuild a couple of years ago, I have ahd a problem with oil overpressure. At startup, cold it was over 120 and when warm idle was 60 and over 3000 rpm it was over 90 psi. I bought an adjustable oil pressure relief valve from APT and installed it. Adjusting it all the way out so there was almost no pressure on the spring, I still have the problem. David Anton says it was probably done during the rebuild, that a brass plug was put in an oil relief gallery hole that should have been left open. He said, if I remove the pan I will be able to see it. At least that is what he suspects may be wrong., the Datsun tranny needs the synchros replaced and a massive tranny oil leak has to be found. I guess I have to pull the motor and tranny to fix these problems. I am not really worried about pulling the engine and tranny, my problem is getting the bonnet off all by myself so I can do this. Any volunteers want to help me get the bonnet off? There will probably be free beer involved. I know what Spridgiteers require for payment. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 3 05:50:04 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:50:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hahahahaha Lin On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:28 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't know about you guys/gals but I hate when folks hack a good > Spridget > > with "metal work". I also hate when people feel the need to advertise > their > > cars with a female. To me it's like saying "if I put a female in the > photo > > it may get noticed and sell better because my car isn't that great or I'm > > asking too much" ; ) Well maybe if I ever sell Pinky which will be when I > > turn in my drivers license at 99 years old I'll just have to put a hot > male > > body builder in the photo to spark some interest in the female sports car > > drivers area ....wink. > > You sexist piglet ;-) Why do you assume it isn't HER car? After all, > she is the only person in any of the photos, two of which show her in > the driver's seat. How would you like it if someone said that about > your ad for your Westphalia (if and when?) just cuz you were in a > couple of the pictures? > That said, you are probably right, although "Spidy" sounds more like a > female seller than a male to me. > I am still trying to understand why they reduced the clearance for the > sake of dual exhaust. > David L > Just kidding you, Lin! From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 3 05:51:00 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:51:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: <61e75.401e5ca4.3af03819@aol.com> References: <61e75.401e5ca4.3af03819@aol.com> Message-ID: Yea they sure look like crap ; ) Lin On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:38 PM, wrote: > I guess it depends on the female in question? I hated the door mirrors. > > Weslake-Monza1330 > > > In a message dated 02/05/2011 15:13:30 GMT Daylight Time, > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > To me it's like saying "if I put a female in the photo > it may get noticed and sell better because my car isn't that great or I'm > asking too much" ; From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 3 05:55:28 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:55:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm using each of these on my ad ; ) http://cjrutter.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/muscle-42.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SPV2qgVYsFI/AAAAAAAADbo/7hFrNt7kRs4/s400/funny++muscle+pic_7.jpg Or maybe this one ; ) http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9ZV5UkERTE/TCTco1LVagI/AAAAAAAAASI/L-dEdTQu5F4/s1600/500full-russell-brand.jpg Lin On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > As a representative of FOMAL (Fat Old Men Anti-defamation League) I am > filing a discrimination suit on Linda. And on any young, muscular men > out there that send her pictures! > > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Let me know when you want me to come by to pose for your ad! > > > > Darn, wish I'da thunk of that! Just send her some shots and she can > > photochop them in. Try to look like you are hugging a van... > > David L > > ________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue May 3 06:22:19 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:22:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Of the three, the last one looks the least repulsive.... On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I'm using each of these on my ad ; ) > > http://cjrutter.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/muscle-42.jpg > > > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SPV2qgVYsFI/AAAAAAAADbo/7hFrNt7kRs4/s400/funny++muscle+pic_7.jpg > > Or maybe this one ; ) > > > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9ZV5UkERTE/TCTco1LVagI/AAAAAAAAASI/L-dEdTQu5F4/s1600/500full-russell-brand.jpg > > Lin > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > As a representative of FOMAL (Fat Old Men Anti-defamation League) I am > > filing a discrimination suit on Linda. And on any young, muscular men > > out there that send her pictures! > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim Johnson > > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > > Info & Registration here: > > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Let me know when you want me to come by to pose for your ad! > > > > > > Darn, wish I'da thunk of that! Just send her some shots and she can > > > photochop them in. Try to look like you are hugging a van... > > > David L > > > ________ > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lmacy at mac.com Tue May 3 06:48:24 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:48:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <6F2A76E4EE494A92AD6DBF88B621A128@t60> References: <2117858831.1858163.1304350110675.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <826819637.1858171.1304350122987.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <375011D1AA2E4D5C8B8167C1FF8B6A49@t60> <6F2A76E4EE494A92AD6DBF88B621A128@t60> Message-ID: I read a couple years ago that in Europe and Asia, the ratio of autos to manual is something like 85-90% manuals. In the US it is the opposite, something like 90% auto's. And the reaming 10% were mostly high end sports and heavy duty trucks (18 wheeler cabs not included, but I unnerstan that is headed in the auto trans direction as well) Larry On May 2, 2011, at 21:20 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Oops, missed crolling down to the other emails. It is indeed Chevette. > > Wow...There truly is no end to the variety of bastardizations. > And just when I thought I had seen every kind of Bugeye rear deck > modifications..then this car comes along. > > It always kills me when they swap the automatic in. > They are just not learn'n stick - no how, no way... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:35 PM > To: kgb at frontiernet.net > Cc: 'Spridgets' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay Midget > > Agreed, I see Ford blue on the valve cover. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. - Edgar Allen Poe From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue May 3 06:48:54 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:48:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OMGC - MGF For Sale On KIJIJI In-Reply-To: <5e6fd0921b509493124d6f7a6876c0d5@www.omgc.info> References: <5e6fd0921b509493124d6f7a6876c0d5@www.omgc.info> Message-ID: Check this out! :) http://tinyurl.com/3rvdc5v Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: OMGC - MGF For Sale On KIJIJI Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:14:40 +0000 OMGCers, It's certainly not too often you see this kind of FOR SALE item anywhere: Click here to see MGF For Sale on KIJIJI Safety Fast! Len From lmacy at mac.com Tue May 3 06:52:42 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:52:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> References: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> Message-ID: That would be on, like, TV? Right?? Never saw it, prolly won't, unless it shows up on youtube. Don't do TV at my house. The 42" plasma is for movies!! Larry On May 2, 2011, at 22:40 PM, Bob Gardner wrote: > Hey, > > I just saw a new animated Geico commercial and the Lizzard was with a red > Bug Eye. Real cute. Anyone else see it? It should be around for a while. > > bob > > Robert D. Gardner > > Gardner Productions LLC > Film and Video Production since 1978 > 619-460-1000 > www.gardnerproductions.com > > > ************ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From lmacy at mac.com Tue May 3 06:55:37 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:55:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The first 2 are hideous!!! The third is a riot! Larry On May 3, 2011, at 07:55 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I'm using each of these on my ad ; ) > > http://cjrutter.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/muscle-42.jpg > > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SPV2qgVYsFI/AAAAAAAADbo/7hFrNt7kRs4/s400/funny++muscle+pic_7.jpg > > Or maybe this one ; ) > > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9ZV5UkERTE/TCTco1LVagI/AAAAAAAAASI/L-dEdTQu5F4/s1600/500full-russell-brand.jpg > > Lin > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> As a representative of FOMAL (Fat Old Men Anti-defamation League) I am >> filing a discrimination suit on Linda. And on any young, muscular men >> out there that send her pictures! >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim Johnson >> Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! >> Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 >> Info & Registration here: >> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org >> >> >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> Let me know when you want me to come by to pose for your ad! >>> >>> Darn, wish I'da thunk of that! Just send her some shots and she can >>> photochop them in. Try to look like you are hugging a van... >>> David L >>> ________ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. - Edgar Allen Poe From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 3 07:03:44 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 09:03:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay boot hack on a 59, Item number:120718504761 In-Reply-To: References: <621378.93554.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OK I'm going for the third too ; ) Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > The first 2 are hideous!!! > > The third is a riot! > > Larry > > On May 3, 2011, at 07:55 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > I'm using each of these on my ad ; ) > > > > http://cjrutter.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/muscle-42.jpg > > > > > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SPV2qgVYsFI/AAAAAAAADbo/7hFrNt7kRs4/s400/funny++muscle+pic_7.jpg > > > > Or maybe this one ; ) > > > > > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u9ZV5UkERTE/TCTco1LVagI/AAAAAAAAASI/L-dEdTQu5F4/s1600/500full-russell-brand.jpg > > > > Lin > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > >> As a representative of FOMAL (Fat Old Men Anti-defamation League) I am > >> filing a discrimination suit on Linda. And on any young, muscular men > >> out there that send her pictures! > >> > >> Cheers!! > >> Jim Johnson > >> Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > >> Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > >> Info & Registration here: > >> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:01 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>>> Let me know when you want me to come by to pose for your ad! > >>> > >>> Darn, wish I'da thunk of that! Just send her some shots and she can > >>> photochop them in. Try to look like you are hugging a van... > >>> David L > >>> ________ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > > > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. > - Edgar Allen Poe From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 3 07:20:28 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:20:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: References: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> Message-ID: > That would be on, like, TV? Right?? Never saw it, prolly won't, unless it shows up on youtube. It looks like there are plenty of Geico commercials on youTube already, so there is no reason to doubt this one will get there eventually... Whoever spots it first, please post a link? David L From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 3 07:34:28 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:34:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Overpressure In-Reply-To: <722390.72337.qm@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <722390.72337.qm@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Where? I don't remember where you are but I can help if you are close and if you are not I may be able to get someone from another forum to come help you, depending on where. I have a few trustworthy contacts here and there. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 3 09:14:45 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:14:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: References: <2117858831.1858163.1304350110675.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <826819637.1858171.1304350122987.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <375011D1AA2E4D5C8B8167C1FF8B6A49@t60> <6F2A76E4EE494A92AD6DBF88B621A128@t60> Message-ID: Can I watch when they start "reaming" the other 10%? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > I read a couple years ago that in Europe and Asia, the ratio of autos to > manual is something like 85-90% manuals. In the US it is the opposite, > something like 90% auto's. And the reaming 10% were mostly high end sports > and heavy duty trucks (18 wheeler cabs not included, but I unnerstan that is > headed in the auto trans direction as well) > > Larry > > On May 2, 2011, at 21:20 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > > > Oops, missed crolling down to the other emails. It is indeed Chevette. > > > > Wow...There truly is no end to the variety of bastardizations. > > And just when I thought I had seen every kind of Bugeye rear deck > > modifications..then this car comes along. > > > > It always kills me when they swap the automatic in. > > They are just not learn'n stick - no how, no way... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:35 PM > > To: kgb at frontiernet.net > > Cc: 'Spridgets' > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay Midget > > > > Agreed, I see Ford blue on the valve cover. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > > > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. > - Edgar Allen Poe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 3 09:16:37 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:16:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Hope someone gets it on tape. Tape??? From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 3 09:35:29 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Did Someone Mention VW's? Message-ID: <590574.56039.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> http://www.oldbug.com/newmanvw.htm jay fishbein wallingford, ct From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Tue May 3 09:49:38 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Did Someone Mention VW's? In-Reply-To: <590574.56039.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <590574.56039.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <297358.99144.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> now that's beginning to bug me..... chuck was that a breeze i felt or is it an air cooled thing? ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 11:35:29 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Did Someone Mention VW's? http://www.oldbug.com/newmanvw.htm jay fishbein wallingford, ct _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 3 10:18:19 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:18:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Did Someone Mention VW's? In-Reply-To: <297358.99144.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <590574.56039.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <297358.99144.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > now that's beginning to bug me..... > > chuck > was that a breeze i felt or is it > an air cooled thing? Yes, the Thing was air-cooled, but it didn't look much like this... David L From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 3 10:55:56 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:55:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Did Someone Mention VW's? In-Reply-To: References: <590574.56039.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <297358.99144.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: you guys are funny : ) Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > now that's beginning to bug me..... > > > > chuck > > was that a breeze i felt or is it > > an air cooled thing? > > Yes, the Thing was air-cooled, but it didn't look much like this... > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From millerls at ado13.com Tue May 3 11:14:45 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:14:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: References: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> Message-ID: <33C98C94-6A85-49B5-AF13-E7D1DB04D77E@ado13.com> Looks kinda like a Bugeye front grafted on to a TR rear. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 3 11:32:31 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Backing up Message-ID: <200cf.747ab6ee.3af1962f@aol.com> So have the SO give directions while using the toilet/shower? Problem solved. On the other hand, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, reverse into a parking space and that way you never have to reverse into a flow of traffic. In a message dated 02/05/2011 22:44:21 GMT Daylight Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: It can get worse: My new-to-me camper van has a toilet/shower compartment located exactly where you want to see out the right rear quarter for backing out of a parking slot. On that compartment door is a mirror that shows traffic coming from the other direction in the opposite lane. It is truly terrifying to be backing into a clear lane and suddenly have a rapidly-moving vehicle appear out of nowhere. From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue May 3 12:01:13 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 18:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Midget In-Reply-To: <6ed001cc0907$2811ad90$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <253394834.1879099.1304445673601.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Gary's had a 5 speed. Kate Chevettes had I think a 200R4 Auto or a Saginaw 4 speed manual... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 3 12:12:44 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 14:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Backing up In-Reply-To: <200cf.747ab6ee.3af1962f@aol.com> References: <200cf.747ab6ee.3af1962f@aol.com> Message-ID: <4F26785696514CAABA8CBE045DAB61DF@Home> So have the SO give directions while using the toilet/shower? Problem solved. On the other hand, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, reverse into a parking space and that way you never have to reverse into a flow of traffic. Don't think I could convince my wife to use the toilet while moving. ;-) Reversing into parking spaces is a really good idea, but it doesn't work for diagonal spaces, which is where I discovered this problem after driving only one day in the largest vehicle I have ever driven. I almost had to stop to use the toilet myself. At that point, I wasn't even sure how to make the toilet work, which would have been even more fun. It seems to me that the old VW Bugs with holes in the floor made more sense. (I guess that dates me, doesn't it.) Michael Rowe From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue May 3 13:25:11 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank Message-ID: <702761.2080.qm@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled on this web site today. http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue May 3 16:37:12 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:37:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> Michael MacLean wrote: "I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled on this web site today. http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/" Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who has been willing to pay a little more to support American industry and the American Way, I have always found it frustrating to search out "Made in the USA" products. This site certainly provides a starting point for that searching! Price aside, how many times in our long telephone visits did Frank and I lament the difficulty in even FINDING American-made items. While shoddily made power tools from Horrible Fright were annoying to me, I did not use them often enough to quickly wear them out. For Frank, and for the trades, it is a serious problem because reliability was essential to put food on the table for his family! From my own business in woodworking, I could appreciate Frank's frustration more than most. I have always maintained that it is American consumer greed that has been responsible for so much industry winding up in the Third World. By and large, we as a people are more concerned with price than with quality and reliability. Faced with the flood of goods made by foreign companies with far lower labor and manufacturing costs, American manufacturers had two alternatives: 1) find a way to lower the cost of their goods, or 2) go out of business. To compete in the retail price war with the Ching Chan Chary Co. in Quang Zoo, they have had to outsource their manufacturing processes to the Third World. Given the choice of buying a zit-fitter with 20-cent per hour labor costs or one with $20 an hour labor costs, Americans will always opt for the 20-cent per hour item. As Frank grudgingly admitted, his competitors had no problem buying Horrible Fright power tools and using them until they crapped out. They could buy a lot of cheap crap and still save money in the long-run. As a craftsman, it was a philosophy that he could not in good conscience, accept. Many thanks, Mike, for this great heads-up. If anyone else has good "Made in the USA" tips, I would certainly appreciate them. Buster From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 3 17:24:04 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 18:24:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank In-Reply-To: <702761.2080.qm@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <702761.2080.qm@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike, This is a wonderful website!! Thank you so much for sending the link. I'm sending this to all my contacts along with a note saying here is a way we can all pitch in and save the economy and reduce unemployment!! Just shop here before you go to Wally World or any other Big Box store!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled on this web site today. > > http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From teachjp at gmail.com Tue May 3 17:34:09 2011 From: teachjp at gmail.com (John Poynton) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 19:34:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Car Talk and a midget Message-ID: I don't know if any of you listen to NPR's Car Talk, but this week's episode starts out with a midget owner who had a problem. It is pretty funny. I didn't recognize any of the usual contributor's name. http://www.cartalk.com/ct/review/index.jsp Enjoy, JP On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Robert Evans wrote: > Michael MacLean wrote: "I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled on > this web site today. http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/" > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who has been willing to pay a > little more to support American industry and the American Way, I have > always > found it frustrating to search out "Made in the USA" products. This site > certainly provides a starting point for that searching! Price aside, how > many times in our long telephone visits did Frank and I lament the > difficulty in even FINDING American-made items. While shoddily made power > tools from Horrible Fright were annoying to me, I did not use them often > enough to quickly wear them out. For Frank, and for the trades, it is a > serious problem because reliability was essential to put food on the table > for his family! From my own business in woodworking, I could appreciate > Frank's frustration more than most. > > > > I have always maintained that it is American consumer greed that has been > responsible for so much industry winding up in the Third World. By and > large, we as a people are more concerned with price than with quality and > reliability. Faced with the flood of goods made by foreign companies with > far lower labor and manufacturing costs, American manufacturers had two > alternatives: 1) find a way to lower the cost of their goods, or 2) go out > of business. To compete in the retail price war with the Ching Chan Chary > Co. in Quang Zoo, they have had to outsource their manufacturing processes > to the Third World. Given the choice of buying a zit-fitter with 20-cent > per hour labor costs or one with $20 an hour labor costs, Americans will > always opt for the 20-cent per hour item. > > > > As Frank grudgingly admitted, his competitors had no problem buying > Horrible > Fright power tools and using them until they crapped out. They could buy a > lot of cheap crap and still save money in the long-run. As a craftsman, it > was a philosophy that he could not in good conscience, accept. > > > > Many thanks, Mike, for this great heads-up. If anyone else has good > "Made > in the USA" tips, I would certainly appreciate them. > > > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/teachjp at gmail.com > > -- John Poynton Resource Room Teacher Sts Neumann and Goretti Catholic High School Philadelphia, PA From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 3 18:00:48 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Studebaker kaboom at Targa Message-ID: <732852.31650.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Our original 2010 ride blowing up. Tony's comment is priceless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow-huKH2yg&feature=player_embedded Ron From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue May 3 18:22:12 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <243273.48286.qm@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I only posted it because it was full of useful links for tools. You know how we love our tools. I need a good torque wrench right no and I will be using this web site for that. Mike --- On Tue, 5/3/11, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank To: Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 11:24 PM Mike, This is a wonderful website!! Thank you so much for sending the link. I'm sending this to all my contacts along with a note saying here is a way we can all pitch in and save the economy and reduce unemployment!! Just shop here before you go to Wally World or any other Big Box store!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled on this web site today. > > http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 3 18:29:27 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 17:29:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank In-Reply-To: <702761.2080.qm@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ I don't see me listed. Where do they get their info? From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue May 3 18:32:33 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <167745.80156.qm@web180606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A gross oversight in my opinion. O.K., forget my recommendation. Mike --- On Wed, 5/4/11, Billy Zoom wrote: From: Billy Zoom Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank To: "Michael MacLean" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 12:29 AM > http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ I don't see me listed. Where do they get their info? From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 3 19:01:11 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:01:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> Message-ID: <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> In most cases you will not pay "a little more" but a lot more to buy from the American manufacturers on this website. Many manufacturers on this site produce primarily professional equipment, Snap-On Tools for example. If you want to buy a musical instrument, your going to spend multiples of what a foreign made counterpart costs. And then there is the question: What does "Made in the USA" mean? If it means assembled from foreign parts.....well...... Your intentions are good. I just wonder whether a site like this is nothing more than a pipe dream. Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 3, 2011, at 6:37 PM, "Robert Evans" wrote: > Michael MacLean wrote: "I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled on > this web site today. http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/" > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who has been willing to pay a > little more to support American industry and the American Way, I have always > found it frustrating to search out "Made in the USA" products. This site > certainly provides a starting point for that searching! . From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue May 3 19:24:44 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 20:24:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> Message-ID: I stopped buying Snap On Tools, when they stopped their warranty On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > In most cases you will not pay "a little more" but a lot more to buy from > the > American manufacturers on this website. > > Many manufacturers on this site produce primarily professional equipment, > Snap-On Tools for example. > > If you want to buy a musical instrument, your going to spend multiples of > what > a foreign made counterpart costs. > > And then there is the question: What does "Made in the USA" mean? > > If it means assembled from foreign parts.....well...... > > Your intentions are good. I just wonder whether a site like this is nothing > more than a pipe dream. > > Jay > -An iPhone communication- > > On May 3, 2011, at 6:37 PM, "Robert Evans" wrote: > > > Michael MacLean wrote: "I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled > on > > this web site today. http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/" > > > > > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who has been willing to pay > a > > little more to support American industry and the American Way, I have > always > > found it frustrating to search out "Made in the USA" products. This site > > certainly provides a starting point for that searching! . > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From stevenm at optonline.net Tue May 3 19:31:40 2011 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 21:31:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest Message-ID: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> Britfest is this Saturday here in beautiful downtown Succasunna, NJ. Although I won't be able to be there, I will be thinking of last year - Frank had his Speedwell Sprite there and kindly demonstrated his dash-mounted "Lucas smoke check". Priceless. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VW1_BdsWQ Steve www.1978mgmidget.com From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 3 19:45:27 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:45:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> Message-ID: <7EBC026B-812A-4C5D-9AAC-2DE80B11A9D6@snet.net> I stopped buying Snap-On when the cost exceeded that of jewelry. Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 3, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I stopped buying Snap On Tools, when they stopped their warranty From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 3 19:59:26 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 20:59:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> Message-ID: <4DC0B2FE.1030908@tx.rr.com> I stopped buying them when I couldn't afford them anymore. I had a small set of snap-on and carried them with me in my car. At some point I realized that they were too valuable to carry around and I needed to buy more so I would have a full set of metrics. I also realized that some tools other than snap-on had increased their quality enough that I would be happy using them. I picked up various Sears sets on sale until I had what I needed to carry in my car. If I lost them it would not be such a loss as losing snap-on tools. When I started working on cars in 1970 I became a tool snob. I would see various tool brands that weren't made very well, they wouldn't fit the fasteners well, they were crude and clunky, etc. By contrast snap-on tools were sleek and trim, but very strong, and they fit the fasteners well. I did not want to use anything else. Well 25 years later I find that Sears tools are still more crude and clunky than snap-on, but they were strong enough and fit the fasteners well enough. I might not use them if I was still a full time mechanic, but they work OK for my occasional use. > I stopped buying Snap On Tools, when they stopped their warranty From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 3 20:00:53 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 19:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals Message-ID: <575261.49512.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> If anyone needs pedal box seals for the an early car, contact me offlist. A set of three is yours for the cost of postage. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: eBay To: jfishbein at snet.net Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 9:46:01 PM Subject: Your eBay item didn't sell: Austin Healey Sprite MG Midget Master Cylinder Gaskets (120716975809) eBay sent this message to Jay Fishbein (type79). Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more. Sorry, your item did not sell. But you can try again. Dear type79, Your item didn't sell this time around. Why not relist it? We'll refund your insertion fees if your item sells. Austin Healey Sprite MG Midget Master Cylinder Gaskets End time: May-03-11 18:45:58 PDT View Item | Tips for a successful listing Try selling it again From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 3 20:06:46 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 19:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> Message-ID: <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> That was a fun 3 days! Thanks Bob, for uploading this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_703067&v=YhjgSCV57Nc&feature=iv jay fishbein wallingford, ct From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue May 3 20:22:36 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 22:22:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: <33C98C94-6A85-49B5-AF13-E7D1DB04D77E@ado13.com> References: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> <33C98C94-6A85-49B5-AF13-E7D1DB04D77E@ado13.com> Message-ID: Is a caveman driving the Bugeye?? Please say yes... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:15 PM To: David Lieb Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial Looks kinda like a Bugeye front grafted on to a TR rear. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From refisk at chartermi.net Tue May 3 20:30:39 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 22:30:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <7EBC026B-812A-4C5D-9AAC-2DE80B11A9D6@snet.net> References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net><5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> <7EBC026B-812A-4C5D-9AAC-2DE80B11A9D6@snet.net> Message-ID: <1C3DB4276FB84DDFA245CE2522D12E7D@RickPC> Snap On tools. My little brother is a mechanic. He says "You can buy better, but you can't pay more". Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Fishbein" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America >I stopped buying Snap-On when the cost exceeded that of jewelry. > > Jay From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue May 3 20:44:58 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 02:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1427591430.1887239.1304477098166.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Probably the gecko. Remember, when he first appeared he was driving a Jag? Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" , "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 7:22:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial Is a caveman driving the Bugeye?? Please say yes... From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 3 20:46:33 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 19:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals In-Reply-To: <575261.49512.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <575261.49512.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <590401.23801.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Folks, Hold the calls. We have a winner in our Pedal Box Seal giveaway. Our lucky winner will not only get a set and a half of pedal box seals but.........will be picking them up on an all expense paid vacation for two in Hawaii!!!! (just kidding.) But someone has claimed them. jay ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 10:00:53 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals If anyone needs pedal box seals for the an early car, contact me offlist. A set of three is yours for the cost of postage. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From shop at justbrits.com Tue May 3 21:02:29 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 22:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE in new Geico commercial In-Reply-To: References: <17E728F36E5B430DB453B6D2099A4D6A@OfficePC> <33C98C94-6A85-49B5-AF13-E7D1DB04D77E@ado13.com> Message-ID: <4DC0C1C5.8060109@justbrits.com> << Is a caveman driving the Bugeye?? Please say yes... >> LMAO, Dean !! TNX !! From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 3 21:20:40 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 22:20:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <1C3DB4276FB84DDFA245CE2522D12E7D@RickPC> References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net><5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> <7EBC026B-812A-4C5D-9AAC-2DE80B11A9D6@snet.net> <1C3DB4276FB84DDFA245CE2522D12E7D@RickPC> Message-ID: <4DC0C608.4040002@tx.rr.com> I've heard this before, I'm not sure if I believe that there are any better tools produced, and I'm talking about end wrenches, sockets and ratchets. I would like to know what brands are considered better so I can check into them, just for my knowledge. > Snap On tools. My little brother is a mechanic. He says "You can buy > better, but you can't pay more". From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 3 22:21:02 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 04:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <616540074.249736.1304482781722.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <862861653.249744.1304482862714.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I like NAPA's polished Everecraft, I have then in Metric and AF I can afford them better than Snap-on (over $100 for a creeper?) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJNoSHOV8" I've heard this before, I'm not sure if I believe that there are any better tools produced, and I'm talking about end wrenches, sockets and ratchets. I would like to know what brands are considered better so I can check into them, just for my knowledge. From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue May 3 22:51:33 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:51:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" Message-ID: <004b01cc0a16$f163f580$d42be080$@net> Jay Fishbein wrote: "If it means assembled from foreign parts.....well......" The history of tariffs is, simply put, a can of worms. The origins of Made in and Assembled in lay in the McKinley Tariff Act of 1890. This act not only boosted import tariffs significantly, but also retaliated against European countries that had begun requiring that the country of origin be made labeled on most imports. From that point on, the ultimate purchasers of imports could identify them as such. Forty years later, the SmootHawley Tariff Act of 1930 '304 strengthened this requirement even further, asserting that at least 75% of the product was made in America to carry that identification. Assembled in USA could be used in cases where 50% or more of the assembly was carried out in the US. Since every tax imposed by government spawns more attempts to avoid a new tax, it is not surprising that when the government introduced differences in tariffs on imports of made in and assembled in goods, a flood of new attempts at tax avoidance came into play. Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue May 3 23:12:06 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 22:12:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <4DC0B2FE.1030908@tx.rr.com> References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> <4DC0B2FE.1030908@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <005601cc0a19$d04206f0$70c614d0$@net> BJNoSHOV8 wrote: "I picked up various Sears sets on sale...." Do Craftsman tools still come with a lifetime guarantee? It was 44 years ago that I gave my bride a top-of-the-line Kenmore sewing machine with a lifetime guarantee. Four years ago, they broke it when they were supposed to be doing an annual maintenance. They did not like the fact that I still had the proper paperwork, and they had to buy a new top-of-the-line Kenmore that now retails for $1,350!!!! It just took a letter to the CEO and president of the company! Buster Evans From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 04:06:37 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 06:06:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OMGC - MGF For Sale On KIJIJI In-Reply-To: References: <5e6fd0921b509493124d6f7a6876c0d5@www.omgc.info> Message-ID: I could hear Frank now. China right? Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Check this out! :) > > http://tinyurl.com/3rvdc5v > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen > )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > > > > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > Subject: OMGC - MGF For Sale On KIJIJI > Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:14:40 +0000 > > OMGCers, > > > > It's certainly not too often you see this kind of FOR SALE item anywhere: > > > > Click here to see MGF For Sale on KIJIJI > > > > > Safety Fast! > > > > Len > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grday at btinternet.com Wed May 4 04:08:23 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:08:23 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net><5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net><4DC0B2FE.1030908@tx.rr.com> <005601cc0a19$d04206f0$70c614d0$@net> Message-ID: <9E7F64E6FDFC4247A6CB1A9C5EE3AFDE@user8634b3d69b> Buster...... Good on yer My wife had a similar thing with a Husqvana sewing machine but they wouldn't give the same guarantee with the replacement. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Evans" <> To: " Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America > BJNoSHOV8 wrote: "I picked up various Sears sets on sale...." > > Do Craftsman tools still come with a lifetime guarantee? > > It was 44 years ago that I gave my bride a top-of-the-line Kenmore sewing > machine with a lifetime guarantee. Four years ago, they broke it when > they > were supposed to be doing an annual maintenance. They did not like the > fact > that I still had the proper paperwork, and they had to buy a new > top-of-the-line Kenmore that now retails for $1,350!!!! It just took a > letter to the CEO and president of the company! > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ From lmacy at mac.com Wed May 4 04:27:56 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 06:27:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <7EBC026B-812A-4C5D-9AAC-2DE80B11A9D6@snet.net> References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> <7EBC026B-812A-4C5D-9AAC-2DE80B11A9D6@snet.net> Message-ID: <92CD7BAD-8B95-492D-BBA2-EAF598105C25@mac.com> I stopped buying Snap-On when I got out of full time mechanic business. However, I never bought a lot of their wrenches. I thought they had too sharp an edge when pulling to loosen a stuck bolt. Now Mac Tools!! There was a set of wrenches I could handle. Less $$ just as strong and fit, well made and had an edge you could yank on with out feeling like you were cutting your fingers off. I still have a lot of those, my car set was disappeared when my tool bag was stolen out of the boot in a private parking area. It stays locked now and is full of Craftsman (again less $$) Larry On May 3, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > I stopped buying Snap-On when the cost exceeded that of jewelry. > > Jay > -An iPhone communication- > > On May 3, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> I stopped buying Snap On Tools, when they stopped their warranty > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Wed May 4 05:50:51 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 07:50:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No.L.B.C Message-ID: test From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 4 06:19:48 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:19:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OMGC - MGF For Sale On KIJIJI In-Reply-To: References: <5e6fd0921b509493124d6f7a6876c0d5@www.omgc.info>, , Message-ID: Wrong, I think. I think China only took over in 2007? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_F_/_MG_TF I wish I could pick up just the engine ... Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 06:06:37 -0400 I could hear Frank now. China right?Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: Check this out! :) http://tinyurl.com/3rvdc5v Robert Duquette From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 4 06:37:17 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:37:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <92CD7BAD-8B95-492D-BBA2-EAF598105C25@mac.com> References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net>, <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net>, , <7EBC026B-812A-4C5D-9AAC-2DE80B11A9D6@snet.net>, <92CD7BAD-8B95-492D-BBA2-EAF598105C25@mac.com> Message-ID: I used to store my tools in the trunk of my first car. I think someone noticed that. The old screw driver to the lock trick relieved me of all my tools. Snap on was never in my budget. I'm a graduate of Peon U; a roads' scholar. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: lmacy at mac.com > > I stopped buying Snap-On when I got out of full time mechanic business. However, I never bought a lot of their wrenches. I thought they had too sharp an edge when pulling to loosen a stuck bolt. Now Mac Tools!! There was a set of wrenches I could handle. Less $$ just as strong and fit, well made and had an edge you could yank on with out feeling like you were cutting your fingers off. > > I still have a lot of those, my car set was disappeared when my tool bag was stolen out of the boot in a private parking area. It stays locked now and is full of Craftsman (again less $$) > > Larry From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 06:55:17 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:55:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> Message-ID: Brad, Snap-on stopped their warranty? Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I stopped buying Snap On Tools, when they stopped their warranty > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > > > In most cases you will not pay "a little more" but a lot more to buy from > > the > > American manufacturers on this website. > > > > Many manufacturers on this site produce primarily professional equipment, > > Snap-On Tools for example. > > > > If you want to buy a musical instrument, your going to spend multiples of > > what > > a foreign made counterpart costs. > > > > And then there is the question: What does "Made in the USA" mean? > > > > If it means assembled from foreign parts.....well...... > > > > Your intentions are good. I just wonder whether a site like this is > nothing > > more than a pipe dream. > > > > Jay > > -An iPhone communication- > > > > On May 3, 2011, at 6:37 PM, "Robert Evans" > wrote: > > > > > Michael MacLean wrote: "I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled > > on > > > this web site today. http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/" > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who has been willing to > pay > > a > > > little more to support American industry and the American Way, I have > > always > > > found it frustrating to search out "Made in the USA" products. This > site > > > certainly provides a starting point for that searching! . > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 07:03:48 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:03:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think Buster may have more, it sure is nice to see video of Frank. Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Jay wrote: > That was a fun 3 days! > > Thanks Bob, for uploading this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_703067&v=YhjgSCV57Nc&feature=iv > > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 07:13:05 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Yes, Buster does, but Bob Gardner shot and compiled a very nice video of the now historic event. Bob is a professional film maker and discounted his services to Buster for beer and pizza (lots of beer and pizza). It was originally broadcast on the Spridget channel which was taken off the air sometime later due to allegations of animal cruelty and gun violence. jay fishbein walingford, ct ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Jay Cc: Spridgets Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 9:03:48 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard I think Buster may have more, it sure is nice to see video of Frank. Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Jay wrote: That was a fun 3 days! > >Thanks Bob, for uploading this: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_703067&v=YhjgSCV57Nc&feature=iv From lmacy at mac.com Wed May 4 07:38:09 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:38:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8865DEAA-9F2D-4AB4-814F-CEA87E1E960C@mac.com> I thought the Spridget channel went away after the congressional hearings into profanity in music and Frank Zappa testifying. Larry On May 4, 2011, at 09:13 AM, Jay wrote: > Yes, Buster does, but Bob Gardner shot and compiled a very nice video of the now > historic event. Bob is a professional film maker and discounted his services to > Buster for beer and pizza (lots of beer and pizza). > > It was originally broadcast on the Spridget channel which was taken off the air > sometime later due to allegations of animal cruelty and gun violence. > > jay fishbein > > walingford, ct > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Jay > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 9:03:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard > > I think Buster may have more, it sure is nice to see video of Frank. > Lin > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Jay wrote: > > That was a fun 3 days! >> >> Thanks Bob, for uploading this: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_703067&v=YhjgSCV57Nc&feature=iv > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 07:45:47 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 06:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <8865DEAA-9F2D-4AB4-814F-CEA87E1E960C@mac.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8865DEAA-9F2D-4AB4-814F-CEA87E1E960C@mac.com> Message-ID: <572861.88842.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Good memory. Larry. That was during the debate that raged over the question: "Does humor really belong in music?" jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Macy Larry To: Jay Cc: Spridgets Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 9:38:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard I thought the Spridget channel went away after the congressional hearings into profanity in music and Frank Zappa testifying. Larry On May 4, 2011, at 09:13 AM, Jay wrote: > Yes, Buster does, but Bob Gardner shot and compiled a very nice video of the >now > > historic event. Bob is a professional film maker and discounted his services to > > Buster for beer and pizza (lots of beer and pizza). > > It was originally broadcast on the Spridget channel which was taken off the air > > sometime later due to allegations of animal cruelty and gun violence. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:18:44 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:18:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <572861.88842.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8865DEAA-9F2D-4AB4-814F-CEA87E1E960C@mac.com> <572861.88842.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > That was during the debate that raged over the question: "Does humor really > belong in music?" Which naturally spawned the debate over whether this venue should adopt the British spelling of "humour" (and "colour", etc.), accompanied by the argument over whether "British humour" was an oxymoron. Anyone remember the verdict on those? And just what was Billy's position on the humor/music issue? David L From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 4 08:29:29 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:29:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Studebaker kaboom at Targa In-Reply-To: <732852.31650.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <732852.31650.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201105040729408.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I recognized that blue arm waving....... Peter === At 07:00 PM 5/3/2011, Ron Soave wrote: >Our original 2010 ride blowing up. Tony's comment is priceless: > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow-huKH2yg&feature=player_embedded > >Ron From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:36:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:36:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I kind of knew that Jay but I was referring to other footage. Anyone else out there have more Frank video footage (hum I suppose we can't call it footage anymore). It is so nice to see Frank on video. Miss you Frank : ( Lin On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jay wrote: > Yes, Buster does, but Bob Gardner shot and compiled a very nice video of > the now > historic event. Bob is a professional film maker and discounted his > services to > Buster for beer and pizza (lots of beer and pizza). > > It was originally broadcast on the Spridget channel which was taken off the > air > sometime later due to allegations of animal cruelty and gun violence. > > jay fishbein > > walingford, ct > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Jay > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 9:03:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard > > I think Buster may have more, it sure is nice to see video of Frank. > Lin > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Jay wrote: > > That was a fun 3 days! > > > >Thanks Bob, for uploading this: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_703067&v=YhjgSCV57Nc&feature=iv > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:37:41 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:37:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank In-Reply-To: <702761.2080.qm@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <702761.2080.qm@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Awesome Michael sorry Frank didn't get a chance at seeing it : ( Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > I immediately thought of Frank when I stumbled on this web site today. > > http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:44:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's Speedwell video...youtube. Message-ID: Who is smichelsen ? Frank's Speedwell video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VW1_BdsWQ&feature=related Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:50:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:50:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest In-Reply-To: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> Message-ID: I think I answered my own question as I didn't see your post Stephen. Do you have any other video of Frank or his wonderful recreations? Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Steven Michelsen wrote: > Britfest is this Saturday here in beautiful downtown Succasunna, NJ. > Although I won't be able to be there, I will be thinking of last year - > Frank had his Speedwell Sprite there and kindly demonstrated his > dash-mounted "Lucas smoke check". Priceless. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VW1_BdsWQ > > Steve > www.1978mgmidget.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed May 4 08:54:05 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: <004b01cc0a16$f163f580$d42be080$@net> Message-ID: <20110504145406.HY0EC.9038.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> Here is a related thing that I saw elsewhere on the net. Everybody hears about "Swiss watches", and a Swiss watch will have written on the bottom of the dial in very small letters "SWISS MADE". However they have their own laws that govern this, and right now it only requires something like 51% of the value of the parts to be manufactured in Switzerland, and the last assembly must be performed in Switzerland. Considering what some of the brands charge for minor components, they could buy cheap Chinese made parts for very little money, and supply a Swiss made dial that would cost just by itself more than the cost of all of the other parts, and assemble it in Switzerland, and comply with the rule to be "Swiss Made". IMO the label "Swiss Made" only means that Switzerland is where the profits go, and the product could be very poor. Well in usual fashion the name brands produce a good product although you can still buy a $1,000 watch from brands like TAG Heur and be receiving a $10 movement. This won't happen with brands like Rolex and Omega, but beware of the brands advertised in magazines that you never heard of. (I once bought a $150 Festina (French) and a $15 Casio, and when it came time to change batteries I discovered that they had the very same model of cheap Japanese movement.) There is a move in recent times to change the law to require that 80% of the value of the components derive from Switzerland. I think if I was buying a Swiss watch and paying 30 times as much for it as I pay for my nice Seiko watches, I would want 100% of its parts to be from Switzerland. BTW, I am a big supporter of made in America but I find it a bit ironic that we talk about such a thing on a mailing list dedicated to a car that was NOT made in America. > Jay Fishbein wrote: "If it means assembled from foreign > parts.....well......" From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:55:11 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:55:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Studebaker kaboom at Targa In-Reply-To: <732852.31650.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <732852.31650.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good one Ron ; ) Lin On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Our original 2010 ride blowing up. Tony's comment is priceless: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow-huKH2yg&feature=player_embedded > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed May 4 08:57:16 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:57:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <005601cc0a19$d04206f0$70c614d0$@net> Message-ID: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> I have not had to test their warranty for 5 years or more but I did have them replace a ratchet for me at that time and they did it without question. I have heard rumors that they will not honor the warranty if you are using the tools as a professional mechanic but I don't know if that is true or not. The type of tools that I buy from Sears are the ones that in my use I would not expect to ever fail under normal use. If they were faulty I would know it right away and take them back for replacement. > BJNoSHOV8 wrote: "I picked up various Sears sets on sale...." > > Do Craftsman tools still come with a lifetime guarantee? From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 09:00:17 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have "footage". I also shot video at Buster's Last Stand and am probably the only person with an eyewitness view inside a transmission tunnel while the tranny is being offered-up. It's really something. We often watch it late at night. Mine is unedited because as a true Spridget owner, I have yet to read the manual, so large portions are just streaming video of volunteers pondering over their choice of beer or which part of the workbench is more comfortable to lean-on. Thinking back on it, I get a little emotional because it really was a magical three days. No one got in anyone's way, everyone had something to do, there was a lot of learning, no time wasted, great chemistry, mucho respect, fun, lots of fun, and so-on. It was what the hobby is all about: cheap cars, some regular tools, grease, hanging with friends, all with bits of expertize thrown-in. The only thing missing was not enough 7/16" wrenches. :-) jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Jay Cc: Spridgets Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:36:05 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard I kind of knew that Jay but I was referring to other footage. Anyone else out there have more Frank video footage (hum I suppose we can't call it footage anymore). From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Wed May 4 09:01:51 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals In-Reply-To: <590401.23801.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <575261.49512.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <590401.23801.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <345772.70660.qm@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> that's what i get fer reading tuesday mails on wednesday. chuck. ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 10:46:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals Folks, Hold the calls. We have a winner in our Pedal Box Seal giveaway. Our lucky winner will not only get a set and a half of pedal box seals but.........will be picking them up on an all expense paid vacation for two in Hawaii!!!! (just kidding.) But someone has claimed them. jay ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 10:00:53 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals If anyone needs pedal box seals for the an early car, contact me offlist. A set of three is yours for the cost of postage. jay fishbein wallingford, ct _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed May 4 09:07:06 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 10:07:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Studebaker kaboom at Targa In-Reply-To: <732852.31650.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <732852.31650.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DC16B9A.20709@wi.net> Ahhhh, the memories, eh? I'm supposed to be going to Blackhawk on the 12th to see if The Grand Machine can make 'round the track. Don't hold your breath! ;-) Dave Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 5/3/2011 7:00 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Our original 2010 ride blowing up. Tony's comment is priceless: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow-huKH2yg&feature=player_embedded > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed May 4 09:07:53 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:07:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110504150753.97LIJ.9150.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> Here is the official statement of warranty. http://www1.snapon.com/display/termsofsale.nws I noticed the following: "Customers who purchase Product from authorized Snap-on distribution channels" So if you bought from a dealer then you are set, if you bought from a garage sale then maybe not. If you have a regular dealer that you buy from then he knows what you buy and what you don't. If you stop by the dealer's house because you saw his truck in the driveway then he has no knowledge of where the tool came from. I would guess that it is up to the individual dealer's discretion and YMMV. "for a duration described in each Product's warranty code" Apparently some products have different warranty than others. In reading other comments on the net I found people that said you could get replacements of hand tools, but rebuilding of air tools had a fee, and ratchet rebuilding might or might not be free. > Brad, Snap-on stopped their warranty? From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 09:08:41 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:08:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest In-Reply-To: References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> Message-ID: OSHIT Stephen I was at the car show in NYC, how did I miss this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in4EqAvm870&feature=related Lin On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I think I answered my own question as I didn't see your post Stephen. Do > you have any other video of Frank or his wonderful recreations? > Lin > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Steven Michelsen wrote: > >> Britfest is this Saturday here in beautiful downtown Succasunna, NJ. >> Although I won't be able to be there, I will be thinking of last year - >> Frank had his Speedwell Sprite there and kindly demonstrated his >> dash-mounted "Lucas smoke check". Priceless. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VW1_BdsWQ >> >> Steve >> www.1978mgmidget.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Wed May 4 09:45:54 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No.L.B.C In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <634956.6446.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> TICKLE! chuck frank would be proud! ________________________________ From: Greg Higgins To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 7:50:51 AM Subject: [Spridgets] No.L.B.C test From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 09:53:49 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals In-Reply-To: <345772.70660.qm@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <575261.49512.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <590401.23801.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <345772.70660.qm@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <491323.62193.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Okay, I'll bite. And what do you get for reading Tuesday mails on .... let's say Thursday? jay ________________________________ From: charles christ that's what i get fer reading tuesday mails on wednesday. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 4 10:05:02 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:05:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Billy's position on the humor/music issue? Music without humor is called art. You can't dance to art. God bless the Ramones. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 4 10:12:56 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:12:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: <20110504145406.HY0EC.9038.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> Message-ID: My products are about 85% made in America, if you count Canada as America. Many parts are not available from the US. Accutronix was purchased by a Korean company last October. I've since been using Chinese Reverb springs because they're better than the Korean Accutronix. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 4 10:18:30 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:18:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: How many miles has Buster put on his Sprite since then? I live four miles away and I haven't seen it since before the cluster. BZ From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 10:33:10 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54298.42842.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I wanna be sedated.... jay ________________________________ From: Billy Zoom God bless the Ramones. BZ From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed May 4 10:35:33 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:35:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DDC638C-8AC9-4EF0-9B40-6E664F984BF9@att.net> The 7/16 wrench comment made me laugh out loud! You can just about take this whole car apart with a 7/16 wrench. Well, that and a BFH. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2011, at 8:00, Jay wrote: > I have "footage". I also shot video at Buster's Last Stand and am probably the > only person with an eyewitness view inside a transmission tunnel while the > tranny is being offered-up. It's really something. We often watch it late at > night. > > > Mine is unedited because as a true Spridget owner, I have yet to read the > manual, so large portions are just streaming video of volunteers pondering over > their choice of beer or which part of the workbench is more comfortable to > lean-on. > > Thinking back on it, I get a little emotional because it really was a magical > three days. No one got in anyone's way, everyone had something to do, there was > a lot of learning, no time wasted, great chemistry, mucho respect, fun, lots of > fun, and so-on. > > > It was what the hobby is all about: cheap cars, some regular tools, grease, > hanging with friends, all with bits of expertize thrown-in. The only thing > missing was not enough 7/16" wrenches. :-) > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Jay > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:36:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard > > I kind of knew that Jay but I was referring to other footage. Anyone else out > there have more Frank video footage (hum I suppose we can't call it footage > anymore). > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 4 10:36:05 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:36:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets-aus] Wheeler Dealers Bugeye Episode Message-ID: <201105040936371.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> You may have seen this..... pretty good, but the word "restored" has been abused again. BTW, this is not Leo's car Peter C -- >Hello All > >We were recently discussing the Bugeye wheeler dealers episode. > >Here it is in 3 parts. to view now. > >http://www.youtube.com/user/eldiablo825#p/a/u/2/V4VDu6Hy1cM > >cheers >John >1960 Bugeye From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed May 4 10:45:58 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> Message-ID: <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> Yeah, well they won't replace all their hand tools for free. I had a Sears torque wrench just fall apart at the head. I could have reassembled it myself, but I thought they would just replace it for free because it was a hand tool and it said Sears on it. The guy in the tool dept told me to go to the Sears Outlet store across the street and they would take care of me. The outlet store repairs Sears products as well as sells the at reduced prices. They told me they would repair it for $60. He'll, a new one was $68! I still have not replaced it 4 years later. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2011, at 7:57, wrote: > I have not had to test their warranty for 5 years or more but I did have them replace a ratchet for me at that time and they did it without question. I have heard rumors that they will not honor the warranty if you are using the tools as a professional mechanic but I don't know if that is true or not. > > The type of tools that I buy from Sears are the ones that in my use I would not expect to ever fail under normal use. If they were faulty I would know it right away and take them back for replacement. > > >> BJNoSHOV8 wrote: "I picked up various Sears sets on sale...." >> >> Do Craftsman tools still come with a lifetime guarantee? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 10:48:51 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <7b55b.45f1f797.3af2dd73@aol.com> Nope, the British are the same. In a message dated 04/05/2011 00:03:50 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: I have always maintained that it is American consumer greed that has been responsible for so much industry winding up in the Third World. By and large, we as a people are more concerned with price than with quality and reliability. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 10:53:42 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:53:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Plasma Cutters anyone? Message-ID: Is anyone on the list using renting/or own a plasma cutter? I am contemplating buying one and do not want to spend 2K. This one listed is probably not very good at $400. anything that cheap is probably crap IMO. Any thoughts? Note adding the gas bottle will increase cost. GiantTech's ArcSonic Brand Plasma Cutter Model Cut50D: http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=32 Nice video from owners of this model: http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/help.php Lin From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 10:55:08 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Snap On Re: Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <7ba92.65e49759.3af2deeb@aol.com> I'm in the UK and I buy Snap-On, nearly always new but occasionally s/h (roll cab, timing light, odd bits). I can buy stuff that looks similar but doesn't perform as well. I'm not a professional mechanic or engineer and aside from cost I've never understood why so many folk that are professionals buy rubbish. I've had cheap tools where the chrome flaked off to produce a razer edge that cut me badly with the tool being junked. I had a Snap-on spanner where the chrome just began to chimble away that the dealer heard of in passing and insisted on replacing. Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 04/05/2011 02:18:37 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: Many manufacturers on this site produce primarily professional equipment, Snap-On Tools for example. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 10:56:12 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <7bb68.4871a97f.3af2df2c@aol.com> Snap-on is jewelry it just doesn't come gem encrusted. In a message dated 04/05/2011 03:08:46 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: stopped buying Snap-On when the cost exceeded that of jewelry. Jay -An iPhone communication- From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 4 10:56:32 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:56:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nice Jay, I personally like the unedited video as there is so much more there that is often left on the cutting room floor especially now that 2 dear friends are gone. Can you upload to youtube? Lin On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jay wrote: > I have "footage". I also shot video at Buster's Last Stand and am probably > the > only person with an eyewitness view inside a transmission tunnel while the > tranny is being offered-up. It's really something. We often watch it late > at > night. > > > Mine is unedited because as a true Spridget owner, I have yet to read the > manual, so large portions are just streaming video of volunteers pondering > over > their choice of beer or which part of the workbench is more comfortable to > lean-on. > > Thinking back on it, I get a little emotional because it really was a > magical > three days. No one got in anyone's way, everyone had something to do, there > was > a lot of learning, no time wasted, great chemistry, mucho respect, fun, > lots of > fun, and so-on. > > > It was what the hobby is all about: cheap cars, some regular tools, grease, > hanging with friends, all with bits of expertize thrown-in. The only thing > missing was not enough 7/16" wrenches. :-) > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Jay > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:36:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard > > I kind of knew that Jay but I was referring to other footage. Anyone else > out > there have more Frank video footage (hum I suppose we can't call it footage > anymore). > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 4 11:02:03 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 13:02:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: References: <20110504145406.HY0EC.9038.root@cdptpa-web16-z01>, Message-ID: Canada is part of the Americas. More specifically, we are North Americans, generally, and Canadians specifically. I prefer to refer to residents of the US of A as USians, rather than Americans, just to remove any ambiguity as to which part of the Americas they occupy. No malice intended. A bit of friendly humour though. ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > My products are about 85% made in America, if you count Canada as America. > Many parts are not available from the US. Accutronix was purchased by a > Korean company last October. I've since been using Chinese Reverb springs > because they're better than the Korean Accutronix. > BZ > _______________________________________________ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 11:06:22 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 13:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <7c3de.322e7025.3af2e18d@aol.com> Facom are supposed to be very good but they're French... In a message dated 04/05/2011 04:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: I've heard this before, I'm not sure if I believe that there are any better tools produced, and I'm talking about end wrenches, sockets and ratchets. I would like to know what brands are considered better so I can check into them, just for my knowledge. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 11:08:18 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 13:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <7c596.624f8974.3af2e202@aol.com> I have heard people say the same thing. In a message dated 04/05/2011 11:45:02 GMT Daylight Time, lmacy at mac.com writes: Snap-On - . I thought they had too sharp an edge From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 11:28:06 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <589974.52185.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mine is only on tape. I COULD put it on my 1,000 things to do list though. jay ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Jay Cc: Spridgets Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 12:56:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard Nice Jay, I personally like the unedited video as there is so much more there that is often left on the cutting room floor especially now that 2 dear friends are gone. Can you upload to youtube? Lin From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed May 4 11:33:34 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:33:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: References: <20110504145406.HY0EC.9038.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> Message-ID: <009601cc0a81$65bc4d00$3134e700$@net> Billy Zoom wrote: "My products are about 85% made in America, if you count Canada as America." Oh, great, Billy! Now you are going to get the Spridget list banned in Canada and may well incite another border conflict making the French and Indian War look like playtime. From lists at dinospider.com Wed May 4 11:48:56 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 10:48:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Plasma Cutters anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC19188.1090606@dinospider.com> The specs are decent on that unit, if it actually works at those specs (sometimes manufacturers exaggerate). A 120V unit that can clean cut 3/4" is something I have a hard time believing especially at that price. My Hypertherm can't do that and its 220V and a LOT more money. I have the hypertherm really only because I can walk downtown and get parts anytime for it. I think that the is primary reason to stay with the major name brands when it comes to welders and plasma cutters, its much easier to go into town and get the consumables on a weekend then it is to have to order and wait a week to get back onto your project. Many of the non-name brand items are just as good or sometimes maybe even better but where will you get consumables and where do you have to send it for repair when it breaks ? For the major brands if your town is big enough for a McDonalds, there is a repair place in town. Just remember to play with it once in a while, a plasma cutter is just a light saber for the metal guy/gal and just as fun as a light saber to play with. mike On 05/04/2011 09:53 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Is anyone on the list using renting/or own a plasma cutter? I am > contemplating buying one and do not want to spend 2K. This one listed is > probably not very good at $400. anything that cheap is probably crap IMO. > Any thoughts? Note adding the gas bottle will increase cost. > > GiantTech's ArcSonic Brand Plasma Cutter Model Cut50D: > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=32 > > Nice video from owners of this model: > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/help.php > > Lin > ______ From lists at dinospider.com Wed May 4 11:50:49 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 10:50:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Plasma Cutters anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC191F9.6040908@dinospider.com> oh one more thing, they don't use gas bottles, just plain DRY air from your compressor. On 05/04/2011 09:53 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Is anyone on the list using renting/or own a plasma cutter? I am > contemplating buying one and do not want to spend 2K. This one listed is > probably not very good at $400. anything that cheap is probably crap IMO. > Any thoughts? Note adding the gas bottle will increase cost. > > GiantTech's ArcSonic Brand Plasma Cutter Model Cut50D: > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=32 > > Nice video from owners of this model: > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/help.php > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 4 11:55:44 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:55:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No.L.B.C In-Reply-To: <634956.6446.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <634956.6446.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5175044638027616681@unknownmsgid> > TICKLE! > > chuck > frank would be proud! Like we are supposed to believe that chuck found the CAPSLOCK! David L From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed May 4 11:56:17 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:56:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <03f601cc09e2$a5e4b5b0$f1ae2110$@net> <5F03158B-C195-40E3-9A7B-5BACE9952737@snet.net> Message-ID: The truck I dealt with stopped doing it. I had a strap wrench, used it to change valves in scuba tanks, and the threads that held the strap together, failed. The driver would NOT warranty it. Its a freakin' hand tool!!! I have not bought anything Snap On since. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Brad, Snap-on stopped their warranty? > Lin > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> I stopped buying Snap On Tools, when they stopped their warranty >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> >> > In most cases you will not pay "a little more" but a lot more to buy >> from >> > the >> > American manufacturers on this website. >> > >> > Many manufacturers on this site produce primarily professional >> equipment, >> > Snap-On Tools for example. >> > >> > If you want to buy a musical instrument, your going to spend multiples >> of >> > what >> > a foreign made counterpart costs. >> > >> > And then there is the question: What does "Made in the USA" mean? >> > >> > If it means assembled from foreign parts.....well...... >> > >> > Your intentions are good. I just wonder whether a site like this is >> nothing >> > more than a pipe dream. >> > >> > Jay >> > -An iPhone communication- >> > >> > On May 3, 2011, at 6:37 PM, "Robert Evans" >> wrote: >> > >> > > Michael MacLean wrote: "I immediately thought of Frank when I >> stumbled >> > on >> > > this web site today. http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/" >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. As someone who has been willing to >> pay >> > a >> > > little more to support American industry and the American Way, I have >> > always >> > > found it frustrating to search out "Made in the USA" products. This >> site >> > > certainly provides a starting point for that searching! . >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> DON JULIO 1942 >> >> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com >> >> > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 4 11:57:56 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 13:57:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <589974.52185.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3>, <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, , <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, , <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, , <589974.52185.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On the bright side, it was 1001 until you got the list completed. When I start my list, I start to panic and never complete the list. > Mine is only on tape. > > I COULD put it on my 1,000 things to do list though. > > jay From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 4 11:59:10 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 13:59:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <54298.42842.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: , <54298.42842.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That's the ringtone that I want for my phone! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > > I wanna be sedated.... > > jay > > > ________________________________ > From: Billy Zoom > > God bless the Ramones. > BZ > _______________________________________________ From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 4 12:03:29 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: <009601cc0a81$65bc4d00$3134e700$@net> Message-ID: <155073706.1896451.1304532209244.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Oh goody! I can be a spy. People are always mistaking my Upstate NY accent as Canadian. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Evans" To: "Billy Zoom" , bjshov8 at tx.rr.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 10:33:34 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" Billy Zoom wrote: "My products are about 85% made in America, if you count Canada as America." Oh, great, Billy! Now you are going to get the Spridget list banned in Canada and may well incite another border conflict making the French and Indian War look like playtime. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From heard at datatrontech.net Wed May 4 12:06:38 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:06:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <7c3de.322e7025.3af2e18d@aol.com> References: <7c3de.322e7025.3af2e18d@aol.com> Message-ID: <039d01cc0a86$03d3f660$0b7be320$@net> I'll never, for the rest of my life, knowingly buy anything the French make. Nor will I ever visit that country. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:06 PM To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Facom are supposed to be very good but they're French... In a message dated 04/05/2011 04:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: I've heard this before, I'm not sure if I believe that there are any better tools produced, and I'm talking about end wrenches, sockets and ratchets. I would like to know what brands are considered better so I can check into them, just for my knowledge. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed May 4 12:19:27 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:19:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <35C3E1BF1DB14865AEF6CE343208F31A@1705n3> <970841.64286.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <300696.22718.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <579726.20379.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jay said," not enough 7/16" wrenches. :-) Jay, What's that all about, anyway? I took two 7/16 combination wrenches and standard and deep sockets, still couldn't get hold of one to use! Hal From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 12:41:10 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:41:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: <155073706.1896451.1304532209244.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <155073706.1896451.1304532209244.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <67CBA700-21EF-4BA4-BB77-B4A060E48E68@snet.net> Eh? Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 4, 2011, at 2:03 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > Oh goody! I can be a spy. People are always mistaking my Upstate NY accent as Canadian. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed May 4 12:52:30 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:52:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> Message-ID: Before I bought my 1/2" drive click torque wrench from Craftsman, I looked at the warranty on the package. It does not come with the lifetime warranty. I think it is only a year. If you worry about the thing going out of spec, buy a beam type torque wrench. The click type DOES go out of spec! Hand tools with no moving parts have the lifetime warr. When we moved in to our new office, some worker left a Craftsman version of a visegrip. It was a mess, with the spring bent and it flopped open when you looked at it crooked. I took it back to Sears Hardware and they gave me a new one on the spot. Years ago, when I had the Type II VW, I was using a Craftsman woodworking vise to bend the bumper back into shape. I busted it real good! They replaced it under warranty. You gotta read the fine print. This is America. We were built on fine print. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Mike MacLean wrote: > Yeah, well they won't replace all their hand tools for free. I had a Sears > torque wrench just fall apart at the head. I could have reassembled it > myself, > but I thought they would just replace it for free because it was a hand > tool > and it said Sears on it. The guy in the tool dept told me to go to the > Sears > Outlet store across the street and they would take care of me. The outlet > store repairs Sears products as well as sells the at reduced prices. They > told > me they would repair it for $60. He'll, a new one was $68! I still have > not > replaced it 4 years later. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 4, 2011, at 7:57, wrote: > > > I have not had to test their warranty for 5 years or more but I did have > them replace a ratchet for me at that time and they did it without > question. > I have heard rumors that they will not honor the warranty if you are using > the > tools as a professional mechanic but I don't know if that is true or not. > > > > The type of tools that I buy from Sears are the ones that in my use I > would > not expect to ever fail under normal use. If they were faulty I would know > it > right away and take them back for replacement. > > > > > >> BJNoSHOV8 wrote: "I picked up various Sears sets on sale...." > >> > >> Do Craftsman tools still come with a lifetime guarantee? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed May 4 13:03:20 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:03:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <7c596.624f8974.3af2e202@aol.com> Message-ID: <20110504190320.RMFHT.17680.root@cdptpa-web21-z02> Their tools are sleeker than many others, and that goes give less to hold on to when pulling hard. (OTOH they will fit on fasteners in tight areas where other tools won't fit.) When I was a full time mechanic I would occasionally find a tight fastener that would hurt my hand when I pulled real hard on the wrench. We always had the red cloth grease rags around so I would wrap one around the end of the wrench and go ahead with it. This is when pulling REALLY hard on the wrench too, an amount of pull I would be afraid of putting on any other brand of wrench for fear of breaking the wrench or of it slipping off of the fastener. > Snap-On - . I thought they had too sharp an edge From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 4 13:21:29 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: <67CBA700-21EF-4BA4-BB77-B4A060E48E68@snet.net> Message-ID: <594598689.1897686.1304536889542.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Exactly! Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Fishbein" Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 11:41:10 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" Eh? Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 4, 2011, at 2:03 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > Oh goody! I can be a spy. People are always mistaking my Upstate NY accent as Canadian. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 4 13:23:23 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:23:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> Message-ID: <201105041223804.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> C'mon guys.... every once in a while I wonder why they changed their warranty..... and then I don't. There's an implication, if not directly stated...using words like "original purchaser" and "intended use". We get tired of attempted abuse of warranty policies. We see a lot of it. It becomes a marketing strategy to accept unquestioned warranties, which eventually raises the price of goods to everyone. I'm not picking on you, Allen. It's epidemic. Off my soap box (actually, it's cardboard, crushed, and flat on the floor) Peter C sent from a devise not made in America, I can guaraneffenteeyou. ==== At 01:52 PM 5/4/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: > When we moved in to >our new office, some worker left a Craftsman version of a visegrip. It was >a mess, with the spring bent and it flopped open when you looked at it >crooked. I took it back to Sears Hardware and they gave me a new one on the >spot. > >Years ago, when I had the Type II VW, I was using a Craftsman woodworking >vise to bend the bumper back into shape. I busted it real good! They >replaced it under warranty. From lists at dinospider.com Wed May 4 13:24:57 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:24:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <039d01cc0a86$03d3f660$0b7be320$@net> References: <7c3de.322e7025.3af2e18d@aol.com> <039d01cc0a86$03d3f660$0b7be320$@net> Message-ID: <4DC1A809.1070107@dinospider.com> Wow, what did the French do to you ? Facom actually is very good, never broken a Facom YET. mike On 05/04/2011 11:06 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > I'll never, for the rest of my life, knowingly buy anything the French make. > Nor will I ever visit that country. > > Heard > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:06 PM > To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America > > Facom are supposed to be very good but they're French... > > > In a message dated 04/05/2011 04:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com > writes: From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:23:10 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:23:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Seals In-Reply-To: <491323.62193.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <575261.49512.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <590401.23801.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <345772.70660.qm@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <491323.62193.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jay wrote: > Okay, I'll bite. > > And what do you get for reading Tuesday mails on .... let's say Thursday? > Somebody like you bites us?? -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:23:30 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:23:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01><45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> Message-ID: I also had a Sears torque wrench that stopped working. It was engraved with "lifetime guarentee" they replaced it with a new one but told me all I get now is a 1-year guarantee. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Mike MacLean Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:45:58 To: Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Yeah, well they won't replace all their hand tools for free. I had a Sears torque wrench just fall apart at the head. I could have reassembled it myself, but I thought they would just replace it for free because it was a hand tool and it said Sears on it. The guy in the tool dept told me to go to the Sears Outlet store across the street and they would take care of me. The outlet store repairs Sears products as well as sells the at reduced prices. They told me they would repair it for $60. He'll, a new one was $68! I still have not replaced it 4 years later. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2011, at 7:57, wrote: > I have not had to test their warranty for 5 years or more but I did have them replace a ratchet for me at that time and they did it without question. I have heard rumors that they will not honor the warranty if you are using the tools as a professional mechanic but I don't know if that is true or not. > > The type of tools that I buy from Sears are the ones that in my use I would not expect to ever fail under normal use. If they were faulty I would know it right away and take them back for replacement. > > >> BJNoSHOV8 wrote: "I picked up various Sears sets on sale...." >> >> Do Craftsman tools still come with a lifetime guarantee? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:31:38 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:31:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Plasma Cutters anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here's the instruction manual for that model..... http://s1.hubimg.com/u/146856_f520.jpg Cheers!! Jim who is channeling Frank today... On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Is anyone on the list using renting/or own a plasma cutter? I am > contemplating buying one and do not want to spend 2K. This one listed is > probably not very good at $400. anything that cheap is probably crap IMO. > Any thoughts? Note adding the gas bottle will increase cost. > > GiantTech's ArcSonic Brand Plasma Cutter Model Cut50D: > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=32 > > Nice video from owners of this model: > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/help.php > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed May 4 13:32:18 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:32:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank photo Message-ID: <4DC1A9C2.9000805@wi.net> Ladies and Gents, Please send me any high resolution (1 meg or better) of Frank so I can get in Grassroots Motorsports, ASAP. Thanks, Dave W. -- Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:36:37 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:36:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > You can't dance to art. > Sure you can, Billy. Just depends upon what and how much chemical you are ingesting through various body orifices. -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 4 13:43:51 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Snap On Re: Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <7ba92.65e49759.3af2deeb@aol.com> Message-ID: <1911032733.258242.1304538231358.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I had a Sears electric drill that broke after 4 months. Took it to Sears who basically said.. "no way, the warranty on the gear box is 1 year, the warranty on the elctric motor is 90 days" It's still in the junk box as a reminder. Which I promptly forgot when I bought my Sears electric start lawn mower (on sale!). 1 year warranty?? Yep... you guessed it... the electric start blew after about 5 months. "No, we only warranty the electric start for 30 days, but we'll repair it for a flat $60!" I use the pull cord --- scraba-scraba-scraba (no nasty words allowed here!) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:50:08 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:50:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <039d01cc0a86$03d3f660$0b7be320$@net> References: <7c3de.322e7025.3af2e18d@aol.com><039d01cc0a86$03d3f660$0b7be320$@net> Message-ID: Heard, I use my 1986 peugeot 505 turbo as my "truck" while every now and then I yell at it, it is basically a good car. Steve LBC + LFC Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Heard Saxon" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:06:38 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America I'll never, for the rest of my life, knowingly buy anything the French make. Nor will I ever visit that country. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:06 PM To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Facom are supposed to be very good but they're French... In a message dated 04/05/2011 04:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: I've heard this before, I'm not sure if I believe that there are any better tools produced, and I'm talking about end wrenches, sockets and ratchets. I would like to know what brands are considered better so I can check into them, just for my knowledge. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:59:55 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:59:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> Message-ID: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Mike MacLean wrote: > I still have not > replaced it 4 years later. > You're just a real hard case, Mike.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 4 14:01:12 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:01:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <20110504195836.22D7D1878A4@autox.team.net> References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> <20110504195836.22D7D1878A4@autox.team.net> Message-ID: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, wrote: > I also had a Sears torque wrench that stopped working. It was engraved with > "lifetime guarentee" they replaced it with a new one but told me all I get > now is a 1-year guarantee. > Maybe if you'd quit driving nails with it.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From heard at datatrontech.net Wed May 4 14:26:52 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:26:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <4DC1A809.1070107@dinospider.com> References: <7c3de.322e7025.3af2e18d@aol.com> <039d01cc0a86$03d3f660$0b7be320$@net> <4DC1A809.1070107@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <03d401cc0a99$9aa684a0$cff38de0$@net> Well, when our sons (including mine), daughters, and friends were sent to Iraq, our 'ally' the French continued selling arms to Saddam to use against them. Now you can argue all you want about whether we should have been there, blah, blah, blah, but if this is how our allies treat us, I want nothing to do with them. I'm sure you can argue about other countries, or what we (the US) may have done to other countries, etc. also, but when this was happening while MY son was there, it just got a little too personal for me. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:25 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Wow, what did the French do to you ? Facom actually is very good, never broken a Facom YET. mike On 05/04/2011 11:06 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > I'll never, for the rest of my life, knowingly buy anything the French make. > Nor will I ever visit that country. > > Heard > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:06 PM > To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America > > Facom are supposed to be very good but they're French... > > > In a message dated 04/05/2011 04:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com > writes: Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 14:31:14 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <115a6.73d176ce.3af31192@aol.com> Hee Hon Hee Hon In a message dated 04/05/2011 20:43:11 GMT Daylight Time, lists at dinospider.com writes: Wow, what did the French do to you ? Facom actually is very good, never broken a Facom YET. mike On 05/04/2011 11:06 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > I'll never, for the rest of my life, knowingly buy anything the French make. > Nor will I ever visit that country. > > Heard > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:06 PM > To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America > > Facom are supposed to be very good but they're French... From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 14:41:14 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank photo Message-ID: <11daf.550dea05.3af313ea@aol.com> Dave, your e-mail address bounced back my e-mail to you and the photo. In a message dated 04/05/2011 20:58:51 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: Ladies and Gents, Please send me any high resolution (1 meg or better) of Frank so I can get in Grassroots Motorsports, ASAP. Thanks, Dave W. -- Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org _______________________________________________ From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed May 4 14:42:45 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:42:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets-aus] Wheeler Dealers Bugeye Episode In-Reply-To: <201105040936371.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105040936371.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <008701cc0a9b$d2dab920$78902b60$@net> I only wish it had been that simple:) Excellent series though. Thanks Peter Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:36 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets-aus] Wheeler Dealers Bugeye Episode You may have seen this..... pretty good, but the word "restored" has been abused again. BTW, this is not Leo's car Peter C -- >Hello All > >We were recently discussing the Bugeye wheeler dealers episode. > >Here it is in 3 parts. to view now. > >http://www.you tube.com/user/eldiablo825#p/a/u/2/V4VDu6Hy1cM > >cheers >John >1960 Bugeye Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed May 4 14:45:49 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:45:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] distrubutoe removal and points replacement Message-ID: <008801cc0a9c$406134b0$c1239e10$@net> Okay.anyone want to offer up a fast way to remove the dist and swap in a new set of points. A way easy to do on the road so to speak. Leo From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed May 4 14:48:34 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:48:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <201105041223804.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> <201105041223804.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Peter. Feel free to pick away! I don't think hard feelings are allowed on Team.net. If Sears didn't want to replace the tools, they shouldn't have an unlimited warranty on them. IMO, it is a very good marketing tool and it is what has kept me buying Craftsman tools, to the extent that I have spent waaay more at Sears Hardware than I could ever expect to get back in warranty replacements. And I still keep buying. Plus, I buy other shi...er...stuff when I am there. Its kinda like coupons. If the retailer complains they aren't making enough money, stop giving out coupons! If I need an occasional tool and know I won't use it often, I stop by Harbor F. They have disposable tools that are cheep. And I have discussed this with Frank many times in the past. (I don't think he agreed!) Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > C'mon guys.... every once in a while I wonder why they changed their > warranty..... and then I don't. > > There's an implication, if not directly stated...using words like "original > purchaser" and "intended use". > > We get tired of attempted abuse of warranty policies. We see a lot of it. > It becomes a marketing strategy to accept unquestioned warranties, which > eventually raises the price of goods to everyone. > > I'm not picking on you, Allen. It's epidemic. > > Off my soap box (actually, it's cardboard, crushed, and flat on the floor) > > Peter C > sent from a devise not made in America, I can guaraneffenteeyou. > > ==== > At 01:52 PM 5/4/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> When we moved in to >> our new office, some worker left a Craftsman version of a visegrip. It >> was >> a mess, with the spring bent and it flopped open when you looked at it >> crooked. I took it back to Sears Hardware and they gave me a new one on >> the >> spot. >> >> Years ago, when I had the Type II VW, I was using a Craftsman woodworking >> vise to bend the bumper back into shape. I busted it real good! They >> replaced it under warranty. >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 4 14:57:32 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 13:57:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > my 1/2" drive click torque wrench from Craftsman My first one wouldn't click. I broke off two bolts before I realized it didn't work. I took it back to Sears and they gave me another one that clicks, but now I don't trust it. I usually end up using my old beam type that I bought in 1970. BZ From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 4 15:30:45 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 16:30:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] distrubutoe removal and points replacement In-Reply-To: <008801cc0a9c$406134b0$c1239e10$@net> References: <008801cc0a9c$406134b0$c1239e10$@net> Message-ID: <201105041430141.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Scratch a mark on the dist body, and the adjacent clamp. Loosen clamp with 7/16 wrench, may want to spread with screwdriver. undo cap clamps, pull dist. Replace points, set gap, replace dist. lining up the 2 scratches. Be sure dist is seated all the way. That last 1/8th inch is important. Tighten clamp a little bit. Replace cap, start car, adjust timing just a hair. shut off, tighten clamp the rest. 10 minutes, tops. Peter == At 03:45 PM 5/4/2011, you wrote: >Okay.anyone want to offer up a fast way to remove the dist and swap in a new >set of points. A way easy to do on the road so to speak. > > > >Leo From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 4 15:36:58 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 21:36:58 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01><45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net><20110504195836.22D7D1878A4@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Driving nails may have helped it. Once I began having kids the automotive stuff took a back seat. It was sitting around for 20+ years that killed the torque wrench. I am sure my "climate controlled" basement (it does have a dehumidifier helped. I will make sure I use the new one every so often. Which reminds me, it is time to re-torque the head in the engine for my Bugeye. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:01:12 Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, wrote: > I also had a Sears torque wrench that stopped working. It was engraved with > "lifetime guarentee" they replaced it with a new one but told me all I get > now is a 1-year guarantee. > Maybe if you'd quit driving nails with it.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Wed May 4 15:48:53 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 17:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank photo In-Reply-To: <11daf.550dea05.3af313ea@aol.com> References: <11daf.550dea05.3af313ea@aol.com> Message-ID: So did mine and Ed's. Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2011, at 4:41 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Dave, your e-mail address bounced back my e-mail to you and the photo. > > In a message dated 04/05/2011 20:58:51 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net > writes: > > Ladies and Gents, > > Please send me any high resolution (1 meg or better) of Frank so I can > get in Grassroots Motorsports, ASAP. > > Thanks, > Dave W. > > -- > Dave W. > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary > July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed May 4 16:00:47 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:00:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <201105041223804.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <20110504220048.4ZG7Z.12334.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> I would like to see a product made such that it could be warranteed no matter who buys it. In my business the products that we make might be resold but we are still on the hook as long as the product exists, no matter who owns it. And exception for how it is used is justifiable though, because you can break anything if you try hard enough. I remember one time I touched up the edge on a Snap-On screwdriver on our grinder and my dad jumped on me because he said it would void the warranty. > There's an implication, if not directly stated...using words like > "original purchaser" and "intended use". > > We get tired of attempted abuse of warranty policies. We see a lot of > it. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed May 4 16:05:04 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 22:05:04 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110504220504.SJNSN.12364.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> When I was a full time mechanic all that we had were the beam-type wrenches. I'm not sure that I fully trust the click type. The beam type are harder to use in several ways, but they will always work. The click type are easier to use but might or might not give you the correct torque. > My first one wouldn't click. I broke off two bolts before I realized it > didn't work. I took it back to Sears and they gave me another one that > clicks, but now I don't trust it. I usually end up using my old beam type > that I bought in 1970. From dwgwater at hotmail.com Wed May 4 16:07:31 2011 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:07:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: amen > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:05:02 -0700 > From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > To: 72spridget at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluster Custard > > > Billy's position on the humor/music issue? > Music without humor is called art. You can't dance to art. > God bless the Ramones. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwgwater at hotmail.com From rande77 at yahoo.com Wed May 4 16:15:32 2011 From: rande77 at yahoo.com (ROBERT MANIACI) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] PEDC Obit to Frank Message-ID: <809905.93720.qm@web114613.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mike Browne from PEDC sent me a copy of their obit to Frank along w/ an old picture of Frank when he was a founding member of the PEDC., IIt is on page 7 of the attached pdf file. Bob Maniaci (Eastern OSHIT MEMBER) http://www.pedc.org/newsletter/PEDC-05-2011.pdf From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 4 16:25:28 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 17:25:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank photo In-Reply-To: <11daf.550dea05.3af313ea@aol.com> References: <11daf.550dea05.3af313ea@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DC1D258.80204@justbrits.com> << Dave, your e-mail address bounced back my e-mail to you and the photo>> Daniel, you would be #3 in rec'ving 'bounces' from Dave's addy. I already have a Tech Ticket in with his ISP, but will ADD you to the List shortly. Anybody else being 'bounced' by Dave's ISP [ wi.net ] ?? PLZ let me know ASAP !! Ed From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 16:31:43 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <269ef.65c0add3.3af32dcf@aol.com> You mean like they sold the exocet missile to the Argentines during the Falklands conflict? I suppose you have to give credit to the French for inventing motor racing and they are big petrol heads. Anyone not had a copy of my sound clip of a Matra V12 - makes a great phone ring tone. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 04/05/2011 21:51:43 GMT Daylight Time, heard at datatrontech.net writes: Well, when our sons (including mine), daughters, and friends were sent to Iraq, our 'ally' the French continued selling arms to Saddam to use against them. Now you can argue all you want about whether we should have been there, blah, blah, blah, but if this is how our allies treat us, I want nothing to do with them. I'm sure you can argue about other countries, or what we (the US) may have done to other countries, etc. also, but when this was happening while MY son was there, it just got a little too personal for me. Heard From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 4 16:34:00 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <26b76.5c183c90.3af32e58@aol.com> How about you can break anything by abusing it, especially tools. In a message dated 04/05/2011 23:29:42 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: And exception for how it is used is justifiable though, because you can break anything if you try hard enough. From grday at btinternet.com Wed May 4 17:16:52 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 00:16:52 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] distrubutoe removal and points replacement References: <008801cc0a9c$406134b0$c1239e10$@net> <201105041430141.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Get a 2nd dizzy, fit, adjust to suit. Mark body position, remove. Get 1st dizzy, fit, adjust to suit. Drive 'till it goes. I really don't see that it will take much longer to fit a set of points in situ - unless your back is like mine If it is which case points = agony. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] distrubutoe removal and points replacement > Scratch a mark on the dist body, and the adjacent clamp. Loosen clamp with > 7/16 wrench, may want to spread with screwdriver. undo cap clamps, pull > dist. Replace points, set gap, replace dist. lining up the 2 scratches. Be > sure dist is seated all the way. That last 1/8th inch is important. > Tighten clamp a little bit. Replace cap, start car, adjust timing just a > hair. shut off, tighten clamp the rest. > 10 minutes, tops. > Peter > == > At 03:45 PM 5/4/2011, you wrote: >>Okay.anyone want to offer up a fast way to remove the dist and swap in a >>new >>set of points. A way easy to do on the road so to speak. >> >> >> >>Leo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From clarici at verizon.net Wed May 4 17:25:15 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 19:25:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PEDC Obit to Frank In-Reply-To: <809905.93720.qm@web114613.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <809905.93720.qm@web114613.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow that pic was a long time ago I know all the people in the photo. It was a fun time with British cars when I was growing up. Nice article Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2011, at 6:15 PM, ROBERT MANIACI wrote: > Mike Browne from PEDC sent me a copy of their obit to Frank along w/ an old > picture of Frank when he was a founding member of the PEDC., IIt is on page 7 > of the attached pdf file. > Bob Maniaci (Eastern OSHIT MEMBER) > > http://www.pedc.org/newsletter/PEDC-05-2011.pdf > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 4 17:36:14 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget Shell - OH-$50 Message-ID: <158246.99366.qm@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2362323006.html NFI Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 4 18:36:20 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 17:36:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <03d401cc0a99$9aa684a0$cff38de0$@net> Message-ID: > our 'ally' the French Screwed us after we saved their butts from the Nazis, and then stuck us with Viet Nam. From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed May 4 17:54:47 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:54:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PEDC Obit to Frank In-Reply-To: <809905.93720.qm@web114613.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <809905.93720.qm@web114613.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c901cc0ab6$a694b170$f3be1450$@net> ROBERT MANIACI wrote: "Mike Browne from PEDC sent me a copy of their obit to Frank along w/ an old picture of Frank when he was a founding member of the PEDC..." It is certainly a nice obit, although in saying, "...he was said to be abrupt at times...", someone must have seen something most of us never saw. Unless, that is, someone asked his opinion and did not like it. But that is the way Frank was. You knew EXACTLY where he stood and what he believed in. No if's, ands or buts about it. I don't believe there was ever an ounce of hypocrisy in his blood. Oh, that all people could be as honest as Frank. Buster Evans From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 4 18:56:37 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Emissions Accomplished Message-ID: <421836.39035.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Anyone on the list in need of any emissions parts for the 70's U.S. spec Midgets? (crickets) Seriously. I have a few parts you can have for the cost of postage if you need them. They are untested, so they don't come with any money back guarantee and since this isn't eBay, you won't have the opportunity to flame me with negative feedback. What I have: 2 used Gulp Valves, 2 used Check Valves, A bunch of NOS British Leyland air filter elements for the air pump. These aren't the canister/housing itself, but the small elements that go inside the plastic housing. Contact me offlist if in need. (In need of these parts.) jay fishbein wallingford, ct From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed May 4 19:10:17 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:10:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT, but one AMAZING mechanic.... Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HSKyHmjyrkA&feature=email -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed May 4 19:27:47 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 21:27:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets-aus] Wheeler Dealers Bugeye Episode In-Reply-To: <201105040936371.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105040936371.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <17EB1FF4E2334DEAB0C141FF8CB6F2E5@blackbox2> Thanks for posting this. I get Wheeler Dealers on HD Theater, but they just keep showing old episodes. > >http://www.you tube.com/user/eldiablo825#p/a/u/2/V4VDu6Hy1cM From Joea at wgegroup.com Wed May 4 19:42:15 2011 From: Joea at wgegroup.com (Joe Armour) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 11:42:15 +1000 Subject: [Spridgets] BLUES and Stuff Message-ID: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D030401B@server.wgegroup.com> KEEF, now there is a hero. Why grow old and grumpy? Just keep doing it (like Keith who is the engine room of the Strolling Bones). My dream is to drive a Healey down '2140 South Michagan Ave.' where Keith did some of his best work. It is one of only two Stones instrumentals. And what about that great phrase from George Thorogood, "she is as classy as an Austin Healey chassis" Joe Armour Ph: (+612) 42722200 Fax: (+612) 42722310 DISCLAIMER: This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed May 4 19:45:00 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:45:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] distrubutoe removal and points replacement In-Reply-To: References: <008801cc0a9c$406134b0$c1239e10$@net> <201105041430141.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <009901cc0ac6$0c58f2a0$250ad7e0$@net> Thanks for all the replies. I took loose the two bolts holding the dizzy clamp to remove it (real PIA) and knew there had to be a better way. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:17 PM To: Leo; Peter Caldwell Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] distrubutoe removal and points replacement Get a 2nd dizzy, fit, adjust to suit. Mark body position, remove. Get 1st dizzy, fit, adjust to suit. Drive 'till it goes. I really don't see that it will take much longer to fit a set of points in situ - unless your back is like mine If it is which case points = agony. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] distrubutoe removal and points replacement > Scratch a mark on the dist body, and the adjacent clamp. Loosen clamp with > 7/16 wrench, may want to spread with screwdriver. undo cap clamps, pull > dist. Replace points, set gap, replace dist. lining up the 2 scratches. Be > sure dist is seated all the way. That last 1/8th inch is important. > Tighten clamp a little bit. Replace cap, start car, adjust timing just a > hair. shut off, tighten clamp the rest. > 10 minutes, tops. > Peter > == > At 03:45 PM 5/4/2011, you wrote: >>Okay.anyone want to offer up a fast way to remove the dist and swap in a >>new >>set of points. A way easy to do on the road so to speak. >> >> >> >>Leo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From millerls at ado13.com Wed May 4 20:55:45 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:55:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's Smoke Machine In-Reply-To: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D030401B@server.wgegroup.com> References: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D030401B@server.wgegroup.com> Message-ID: I don't know if this has been sent already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve7uCwAW9eA From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed May 4 21:17:27 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 22:17:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank photo In-Reply-To: <4DC1D258.80204@justbrits.com> References: <11daf.550dea05.3af313ea@aol.com> <4DC1D258.80204@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <65207.68.30.148.51.1304565447.squirrel@wm.wi.net> That's strange. It's usually my ISP being blocked by others. I've filled out 5 tickets in the last month. If that continues to happen send emails to: dtwoerpel at gmail.com NOTE: there's a "t" after the "d" in this address. Thanks to those trying to help out! Dave W. > << Dave, your e-mail address bounced back my e-mail to you and the photo>> > > Daniel, you would be #3 in rec'ving 'bounces' from Dave's addy. > I already have a Tech Ticket in with his ISP, but will ADD you to > the List shortly. > > Anybody else being 'bounced' by Dave's ISP [ wi.net ] ?? > PLZ let me know ASAP !! > > Ed From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 4 22:10:09 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 21:10:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BLUES and Stuff In-Reply-To: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D030401B@server.wgegroup.com> Message-ID: > My dream is to drive a Healey down '2140 South Michagan Ave.' where > Keith did some of his best work. You missed it by a few doors. It was 2120. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu May 5 00:29:48 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 23:29:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC...Drag car on fire. Message-ID: http://dragnuts.com/video/bad-to-worse -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 5 01:24:42 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 03:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC...Drag car on fire. Message-ID: That was interesting. Did you hear the one guy call for powder? Over here while I'm not trained to put out fires I have the seen the safety DVD and with marshals sometimes on the scarce side, especially on a Friday I like to know that you: Knock the fire down with Powder and follow on with foam. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 05/05/2011 07:40:03 GMT Daylight Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: http://dragnuts.com/video/bad-to-worse From grday at btinternet.com Thu May 5 03:36:27 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:36:27 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] NO LBC CONTENT, but one AMAZING mechanic.... References: Message-ID: It just blew me away.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal To: Spridget list ; Yahoo Spridget list Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:10 AM Subject: [midgetsprite] NO LBC CONTENT, but one AMAZING mechanic.... http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HSKyHmjyrkA&feature=email -- DON JULIO 1942 Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use. __,_._,___ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 04:15:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 06:15:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Plasma Cutters anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim, you crack me up I just love it and in honor of our dear friend Frank and your forwarded manual I will pass on this POS ......wink. Love your new signature too, Lin PS Thanks Mike for the input I was thinking the same thing consumables first. Also good to know about the air input : ) Maybe I will try and rent one for my next big project. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Here's the instruction manual for that model..... > > http://s1.hubimg.com/u/146856_f520.jpg > > Cheers!! > Jim who is channeling Frank today... > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Linda Grunthaner >wrote: > > > Is anyone on the list using renting/or own a plasma cutter? I am > > contemplating buying one and do not want to spend 2K. This one listed is > > probably not very good at $400. anything that cheap is probably crap IMO. > > Any thoughts? Note adding the gas bottle will increase cost. > > > > GiantTech's ArcSonic Brand Plasma Cutter Model Cut50D: > > > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=32 > > > > Nice video from owners of this model: > > http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/help.php > > > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 04:25:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 06:25:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? Message-ID: List, Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of steroids, I think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no wimp to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just don't want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back pain as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving forward with treatment because it is at a concerned level. Steroids anyone ; ) This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life easier with your wisdom. Lin From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 5 05:25:12 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 06:25:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I recommend the steroid injections. I get them at the pain clinic whenever the pain gets unbearable. The doctor injects them directly into the nerve. It makes the pain worse for a day or two, but gives relief after that. I can get 9 to 12 months of relief until I can't stand it anymore. There are no adverse side effects other than it raises blood glucose in diabetics. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:25 AM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? List, Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of steroids, I think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no wimp to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just don't want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back pain as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving forward with treatment because it is at a concerned level. Steroids anyone ; ) This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life easier with your wisdom. Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Thu May 5 05:33:20 2011 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 07:33:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <088552D3-84E4-41F7-9AB5-C269B65905C1@hoppetool.com> I had it all at 19 years old. Ended up getting micro surgery to fix a herniated disc. Still have 2 more Sincerely, Matt Hagopian On May 5, 2011, at 6:25 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, > surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have > numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and > acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to > discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a > squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of steroids, I > think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no wimp > to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just don't > want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back pain > as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / > EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving forward > with treatment because it is at a concerned level. > > Steroids anyone ; ) > > This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life > easier with your wisdom. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mhagopian at hoppetool.com From edwd at ti.com Thu May 5 06:18:03 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 07:18:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sears warrantee and torque wrench Message-ID: As I was checking out of a local sears tool center one day a man dumped at least ten if not twelve retractable tape measures on the counter. The least damaged one, scratched and obviously well worn was probably just a case of allowing the tape to 'snap' back into the holder knocking the rivets off the tang. The worst looked as though it had been fished from a wheelbarrow of cement and then run over with the truck that delivered same cement. The Sears employee replaced every one of them, gratis. When I witnessed that, many years ago, I knew that the very unrestricted warrantee policy would not be long for this world. Who is to blame; the contractor for legally exercising his warrantee and keeping his crew outfitted, or Sears for not inserting the dreaded 'fine print' in the first place? I've never been one to quickly assess blame, it seems after-the-fact and rather counterproductive and there are always many sides to an issue. I too, have a box full of Craftsman tools, bought largely because of their generous warrantee policy. I have smacked the occasional wrench with a two-pound sledge, used cheater bars on the occasional socket, and have otherwise used my tools to the fullest. However, I don't use a cheater bar with a ratchet, only a breaker bar, as a ratchet isnt' made for that, and I don't complain if the finish on my wrench is marred by the sledge, as a finish isn't made for that either. I have only returned two tools in all of these many years to Sears. One was a worn #2 phillips screwdriver that just didn't hold well anymore. I then replaced the entire set with the professional series and gave the old ones away. Working on Defense equipment has made me very attuned to burred hardware. The second was a shovel that had loosened at the head after many years of kicking and rocking and prying in this blackland soil in my part of Texas. I had tightened the rivets on that head many times before, but the wooden handle was not reamed. I was apologetic to the Sears representative as I thought my shovel had given me good service, I traded up to a fiberglass handle in hopes that I would not have a repeat. I could have just bought the new shovel and not exercised my warrantee in hopes that my action would help Sears to retain their warrantee, I can tell you that I was torn, but lo, you've now read what I chose. Am I not partly to blame for their modifications to the warrantee? I think that I am, so I cannot assign blame to them without accepting my part in it as well. I have a clicker torque wrench from Sears. The 'lock' on the handle is a joke and quit working almost immediately, however I just pay attention and don't rotate off the assigned setting for my final twists. I reset the wrench to zero every time I return it to the box, and I ensure that it is not dropped nor banged around when in use. Here again I guess building fighter jet quality equipment years ago have trained me. My wrench has given me good service, but I will now look for a beam type to check my calibration. Thanks for posting the information. As an aside, I just resurrected a Sears Eager 1 lawn mower that I bought used over 25 years ago for a couple of kids getting into their first house. I smile at the 'we tight' postings. I conclude though that it is not just cost, but rather satisfaction at having won the battle and saving one more item from the landfill. Goodness knows we throw enough stuff away. So, here is an old engine that lights right up, after some fiddling of course, and will mow many lawns to come. Good on you, Sears. Ed Dallas, Tx From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 5 06:24:49 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 05:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Shakespeare: "To B or Not to B" Message-ID: <240406.5937.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I could see myself in this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280669617181+&viewitem= jay fishbein wallingford, CT From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 5 06:30:28 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 05:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chatter and AH Sports & Touring Club Newsletters Message-ID: <317358.52838.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> If anyone on the list has any interest in some back issues of AHCA Chatter and AHSTC monthly mags, contact me offlist. These are from the 1990's. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 5 06:37:07 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 08:37:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <03d401cc0a99$9aa684a0$cff38de0$@net>, Message-ID: Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > > > our 'ally' the French > Screwed us after we saved their butts From lmacy at mac.com Thu May 5 07:01:56 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:01:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <20110504220504.SJNSN.12364.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> References: <20110504220504.SJNSN.12364.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> Message-ID: <236A469F-3865-46BE-8C57-00BE3800E57A@mac.com> One thing about the click types that most people do not know. You cannot store them at any setting except zero. If you do the spring remains compressed and will go off adjustment just that much faster. I have a SnapOn I bought 30 years ago. I recently compared it with a beam type. It was spot on. Always backed off to zero. Larry On May 4, 2011, at 18:05 PM, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote: > When I was a full time mechanic all that we had were the beam-type wrenches. I'm not sure that I fully trust the click type. > > The beam type are harder to use in several ways, but they will always work. The click type are easier to use but might or might not give you the correct torque. > > > >> My first one wouldn't click. I broke off two bolts before I realized it >> didn't work. I took it back to Sears and they gave me another one that >> clicks, but now I don't trust it. I usually end up using my old beam type >> that I bought in 1970. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller From neilandcustom at gmail.com Thu May 5 07:12:34 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 08:12:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shakespeare: "To B or Not to B" In-Reply-To: <240406.5937.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <240406.5937.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601cc0b26$1ade2290$509a67b0$@com> This car was on BaT this morning. Looks like it well done. I have a guy near me that has done a number of Rover V8 conversions in MGBs and MGAs. His work is very good. As a side note, from the listing on BaT, it looks like WSTs Bishop Bugeye has sold. Neil Anderson -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:25 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Shakespeare: "To B or Not to B" I could see myself in this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280669617181+& viewitem= jay fishbein wallingford, CT Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/neilandcustom at gmail.com From neilandcustom at gmail.com Thu May 5 07:17:58 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 08:17:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <03d401cc0a99$9aa684a0$cff38de0$@net>, Message-ID: <001701cc0b26$de5b4d10$9b11e730$@com> My buddy from England says that is the only thing he likes about the French. Neil Anderson -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:37 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > > > our 'ally' the French > Screwed us after we saved their butts Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/neilandcustom at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 07:41:43 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:41:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: <088552D3-84E4-41F7-9AB5-C269B65905C1@hoppetool.com> References: <088552D3-84E4-41F7-9AB5-C269B65905C1@hoppetool.com> Message-ID: Cool Larry I'm going for the shot : ) Wow Matt hang in there sounds like you weren't a candidate for the shot? Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Matt Hagopian wrote: > I had it all at 19 years old. Ended up getting micro surgery to fix a > herniated disc. Still have 2 more > > Sincerely, > > Matt Hagopian > > On May 5, 2011, at 6:25 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > List, > > Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, > > surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have > > numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and > > acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to > > discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a > > squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of steroids, > I > > think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no > wimp > > to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just > don't > > want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back > pain > > as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / > > EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving > forward > > with treatment because it is at a concerned level. > > > > Steroids anyone ; ) > > > > This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life > > easier with your wisdom. > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mhagopian at hoppetool.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu May 5 07:51:21 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:51:21 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <236A469F-3865-46BE-8C57-00BE3800E57A@mac.com> References: <20110504220504.SJNSN.12364.root@cdptpa-web27-z01><236A469F-3865-46BE-8C57-00BE3800E57A@mac.com> Message-ID: Larry, I did not know that, thanks Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Macy Larry Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:01:56 To: Cc: Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America One thing about the click types that most people do not know. You cannot store them at any setting except zero. If you do the spring remains compressed and will go off adjustment just that much faster. I have a SnapOn I bought 30 years ago. I recently compared it with a beam type. It was spot on. Always backed off to zero. Larry On May 4, 2011, at 18:05 PM, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote: > When I was a full time mechanic all that we had were the beam-type wrenches. I'm not sure that I fully trust the click type. > > The beam type are harder to use in several ways, but they will always work. The click type are easier to use but might or might not give you the correct torque. > > > >> My first one wouldn't click. I broke off two bolts before I realized it >> didn't work. I took it back to Sears and they gave me another one that >> clicks, but now I don't trust it. I usually end up using my old beam type >> that I bought in 1970. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From pchast at francomm.com Thu May 5 07:58:32 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:58:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lin, I have a couple of herniated disks and they are sending me to pain management next week on that. I had these injections with my shoulders and they helped for a while. Pete On Thu, 05 May 2011 06:25:16 -0400, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > List, > Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, > surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have > numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and > acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to > discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a > squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of > steroids, I > think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no > wimp > to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just > don't > want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back > pain > as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / > EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving > forward > with treatment because it is at a concerned level. > > Steroids anyone ; ) > > This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life > easier with your wisdom. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 08:15:15 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:15:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's Smoke Machine In-Reply-To: References: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D030401B@server.wgegroup.com> Message-ID: Like it : ) Thanks Lin On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > I don't know if this has been sent already. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve7uCwAW9eA > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu May 5 08:17:12 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 10:17:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> > Steroids anyone ; ) Be very careful here. Other's experiences may be for other causes - there are many. This is serious medical stuff for body mechanics, not car mechanics. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 08:27:37 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:27:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> References: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> Message-ID: Thanks Michael. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Steroids anyone ; ) >> > > Be very careful here. Other's experiences may be for other causes - there > are many. This is serious medical stuff for body mechanics, not car > mechanics. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Bugeyed Midget > '60 Sprite kit > Long Island, NY From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 5 08:40:35 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> >> Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) I was married to one once.... notice the word "once" -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 08:39:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:39:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Shakespeare: "To B or Not to B" In-Reply-To: <240406.5937.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <240406.5937.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Every time I hear MGB I think of when Frank called it an "MGBeast" : ) He had me laughing so hard I could hardly stop. I hope this will resonate in everyones mind when ever they here MGB wink! Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Jay wrote: > I could see myself in this: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280669617181+&viewitem= > > > jay fishbein > wallingford, CT > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 08:47:36 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:47:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget Shell - OH-$50 In-Reply-To: <158246.99366.qm@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <158246.99366.qm@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow $50. for a round wheel arch Midget shell that is a bargain. Lin On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2362323006.html > > > NFI > > Rick > > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 08:45:55 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:45:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets-aus] Wheeler Dealers Bugeye Episode In-Reply-To: <201105040936371.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105040936371.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the link Peter I just finished it yesterday and I agree "wish it was that simple". Personally I would have stripped the old paint at the blasters. also why did they tape off the door latch with only 2 screws it would have been faster to remove than to tape. Also I saw nothing wrong with the car before painting : ( Lin On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > You may have seen this..... pretty good, but the word "restored" has been > abused again. > > BTW, this is not Leo's car > Peter C > -- > > > Hello All >> >> We were recently discussing the Bugeye wheeler dealers episode. >> >> Here it is in 3 parts. to view now. >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/eldiablo825#p/a/u/2/V4VDu6Hy1cM >> >> cheers >> John >> 1960 Bugeye >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 08:50:32 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:50:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT, but one AMAZING mechanic.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've seen it a while ago and I am still amazed. Lin On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HSKyHmjyrkA&feature=email > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 5 08:55:52 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:55:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" In-Reply-To: <594598689.1897686.1304536889542.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <67CBA700-21EF-4BA4-BB77-B4A060E48E68@snet.net>, <594598689.1897686.1304536889542.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Shouldn't that be "For sure, eh!" ?? Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:21:29 +0000 > > Exactly! > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Fishbein" > Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 11:41:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Made in" vs "Assembled in" > > Eh? > > Jay > -An iPhone communication- > > On May 4, 2011, at 2:03 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > > > Oh goody! I can be a spy. People are always mistaking my Upstate NY accent > as Canadian. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu May 5 08:57:44 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:57:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lin, steroids are a stopgap measure from what I have seen. NO, I haven't needed them but several around me have and the end result is always the surgery. The surgery will not make you better then next day but , all other things being equal, will get better and longer lasting results. Lester On May 5, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, > surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have > numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and > acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to > discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a > squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of steroids, I > think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no wimp > to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just don't > want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back pain > as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / > EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving forward > with treatment because it is at a concerned level. > > Steroids anyone ; ) > > This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life > easier with your wisdom. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu May 5 09:18:41 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 08:18:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <20110505141938.33B9718787B@autox.team.net> References: <20110504220504.SJNSN.12364.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> <236A469F-3865-46BE-8C57-00BE3800E57A@mac.com> <20110505141938.33B9718787B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <06F9ACFF-1047-49FA-8B26-1FE5E9B91C49@att.net> As far as accuracy goes, my buddy that restores big Healeys for auction is an amazing mechanic and an encyclopedia of mechanical knowledge. I have watched him torque a head WITHOUT a torque wrench. I asked him how close he was to the correct torque. He handed me a beam type torque wrench and said, "check it". Damn if he had not just about nailed the right torque specs! He's got the most amazing talent removing bolts that are corroded and rusty without braking the heads off. The same bolts I break with regularity. Some people just have the touch. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2011, at 6:51, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > Larry, > > I did not know that, thanks > > Steve > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Macy Larry > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:01:56 > To: > Cc: Spridgets list > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America > > One thing about the click types that most people do not know. You cannot store them at any setting except zero. If you do the spring remains compressed and will go off adjustment just that much faster. I have a SnapOn I bought 30 years ago. I recently compared it with a beam type. It was spot on. Always backed off to zero. > > Larry > > On May 4, 2011, at 18:05 PM, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote: > >> When I was a full time mechanic all that we had were the beam-type wrenches. I'm not sure that I fully trust the click type. >> >> The beam type are harder to use in several ways, but they will always work. The click type are easier to use but might or might not give you the correct torque. >> >> >> >>> My first one wouldn't click. I broke off two bolts before I realized it >>> didn't work. I took it back to Sears and they gave me another one that >>> clicks, but now I don't trust it. I usually end up using my old beam type >>> that I bought in 1970. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > "Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 5 09:36:51 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:36:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: References: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> Message-ID: What Michael said. I have Stenosis in my lumbar vertebrae which is pinching my spinal cord. That is a very different thing to having damage to the disks. While I know my problem will get progressively worse, I have found the shots help for a few months at present. Eventually I will need the surgery (laminectomy where they remove a portion of the back of the individual vertebrae to remove the pinch on the spinal cord). There is a big difference between pinching of the spinal cord by an arthritic vertebrae and pinching due to a collapsed, slipped or herniated disk. You need to have a very long talk with your osteopath and both of you decide on a plan of action. A good doctor should always recommend the least invasive procedure to begin with working your way up to the surgery. You also need to know what the success percentage is for any of the procedures and that should figure into your decision. Sorry to learn of your back problem and good luck getting some relief. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Thanks Michael. > Lin > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Michael Rowe > wrote: > > > Steroids anyone ; ) > >> > > > > Be very careful here. Other's experiences may be for other causes - > there > > are many. This is serious medical stuff for body mechanics, not car > > mechanics. > > > > Michael Rowe > > '74 Bugeyed Midget > > '60 Sprite kit > > Long Island, NY > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 5 09:39:29 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:39:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Again, be cautious here. According to my osteopath the surgery success rate varies. It is not always effective and never completely effective. Talk to the osteopath and ask lots of questions. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Lester wrote: > Lin, steroids are a stopgap measure from what I have seen. NO, I haven't > needed them but several around me have and the end result is always the > surgery. The surgery will not make you better then next day but , all > other > things being equal, will get better and longer lasting results. > > Lester > > > On May 5, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > List, > > Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, > > surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have > > numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and > > acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to > > discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a > > squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of steroids, > I > > think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no > wimp > > to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just > don't > > want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back > pain > > as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / > > EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving > forward > > with treatment because it is at a concerned level. > > > > Steroids anyone ; ) > > > > This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life > > easier with your wisdom. > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu May 5 10:04:52 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 12:04:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55B25B8BE7404911906999110BA82AA0@Home> > The surgery will not make you better then next day but , all other > things being equal, will get better and longer lasting results. Dr. Daughter tells me that the statistics on back surgery are/were/? terrible - 25% get better, 25% get worse, and 50% have no change. Yet I know several people who are delighted with various different back surgeries. If you have it done, go to the most experienced people you can find and check their success record for the particular procedure you need. Michael Rowe From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Thu May 5 10:09:30 2011 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:09:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: References: <088552D3-84E4-41F7-9AB5-C269B65905C1@hoppetool.com> Message-ID: <8E1751C8-50E7-4FF4-9D72-CA82F440012A@hoppetool.com> I had the shot. It worked great but lasted 3 months, I'm afraid of needles and it's a 3 shot process.. I passed out.. In the end I should have gotten surgery straight away Sincerely, Matt Hagopian On May 5, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Cool Larry I'm going for the shot : ) > > Wow Matt hang in there sounds like you weren't a candidate for the shot? > Lin > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Matt Hagopian wrote: > I had it all at 19 years old. Ended up getting micro surgery to fix a herniated disc. Still have 2 more > > Sincerely, > > Matt Hagopian > > On May 5, 2011, at 6:25 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > List, > > Before I say yes to my doctors I would like some info on back repairs, > > surgery, spinal injection steroids etc. I just had my MRI because I have > > numbness in both my feet for the last 3 years and physical therapy and > > acupuncture is not stopping the process. I meet with the doctor today to > > discuss the results but just looking at the photos it appears I have a > > squished nerve. I know the PT doctor wants to do an epidural of steroids, I > > think it is a good start as surgery should be the last thing. I am no wimp > > to lower back pain I have been on ice every morning for years I just don't > > want this problem to cut off the use of my feet. I have had cronic back pain > > as far back (no pun) as 17 which increased in the 10 years of ambulance / > > EMT work so I am very familiar with my situation I'm just now moving forward > > with treatment because it is at a concerned level. > > > > Steroids anyone ; ) > > > > This list has never left me in the dark. You guys & gals have made life > > easier with your wisdom. > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mhagopian at hoppetool.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu May 5 10:10:28 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:10:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sears warrantee and torque wrench In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110505161028.J6IAV.18583.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> I've been thinking about this a bit. I have bought Sears tools for a long time, and really I think I buy them not because of their warranty but because I expect to not have to use the warranty. I have a lot of faith in their wrenches, sockets and ratchets, and expect that under my use they will never break. I do not feel the same way about lesser brands of tools. I will buy the occasional item at HF, and sometimes I don't have faith in them, but I don't buy any tool that I don't have some faith in. To me the thing about Sears is that I go out of my way to go there and buy tools, and maybe pay more than I would at other places, because I value their quality. Their quality allows them to have the warranty, they sort of go hand in hand. By providing value in their tools they bring in business that they otherwise would lose to competitors, and this makes up for what it costs them to replace tools under warranty. Similarly with Snap-On- their trucks visit garages and so forth, and sometimes all they do is on a visit is to replace or repair tools, but they also sell tools too and they sort of have a captive audience. Sure a mechanic could go on Saturday to the store and buy a replacement tool but if the truck is right there and can give it to him right there ready for him to use, it saves his time and that is worth something too. Snap-on wouldn't have the customer loyalty that they have without their service, and their high prices can probably cover the occasional tool replacement. > I too, have a box full of Craftsman tools, bought largely because of their > generous warrantee policy. I have smacked the occasional wrench with a > two-pound sledge, used cheater bars on the occasional socket, and have > otherwise used my tools to the fullest. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu May 5 10:18:49 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:18:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> We would start asking questions if you said you had been married to her twice. > >> Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) > > I was married to one once.... notice the word "once" From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 10:20:46 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:20:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: References: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> Message-ID: Jim, Thanks for the info I think that is exactally what I have but I will know later today. So you have it too? I wouldn't even bother with treatment if it weren't for the numb feet getting worse. I do know I can get really bitchy when dealing with stupid stuff and I have chronic back crap irritating my day ; ) Keep posted on my latest rant ; ) Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > What Michael said. I have Stenosis in my lumbar vertebrae which is > pinching > my spinal cord. That is a very different thing to having damage to the > disks. While I know my problem will get progressively worse, I have found > the shots help for a few months at present. Eventually I will need the > surgery (laminectomy where they remove a portion of the back of the > individual vertebrae to remove the pinch on the spinal cord). There is a > big > difference between pinching of the spinal cord by an arthritic vertebrae > and > pinching due to a collapsed, slipped or herniated disk. You need to have a > very long talk with your osteopath and both of you decide on a plan of > action. A good doctor should always recommend the least invasive procedure > to begin with working your way up to the surgery. You also need to know > what the success percentage is for any of the procedures and that should > figure into your decision. > > Sorry to learn of your back problem and good luck getting some relief. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Linda Grunthaner >wrote: > > > Thanks Michael. > > Lin > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Michael Rowe > > wrote: > > > > > Steroids anyone ; ) > > >> > > > > > > Be very careful here. Other's experiences may be for other causes - > > there > > > are many. This is serious medical stuff for body mechanics, not car > > > mechanics. > > > > > > Michael Rowe > > > '74 Bugeyed Midget > > > '60 Sprite kit > > > Long Island, NY > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 10:30:49 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:30:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but I sure hate government answering machines........@#%*@&% Message-ID: List, I just need to vent,I just cursed up a storm in the faculty room and need to vent some more. I am trying to help my younger brother get a copy replacement of his social security card but the A-Hole SS offices have only an automated phone system. I spent 1 hr trying to locate a phone number for a "HUMAN" and no luck. But I am 100% sure they have a phone in the local office to order pizza or Chinese food (For you Frank). I'm currentally trying to track down a paper, yes "Paper" phone book to get the local number. The website says you need a passport, and DL. My brother has nether, he lost everything during a recent move from NYC. I have his birth certificate and I would hate to take the day off from work to that office to find out that is not enough. As soon as I get their number I'll order them a pizza : ) only kidding but I sure am angry. Just venting, Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 10:32:19 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:32:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had my MRI? In-Reply-To: <55B25B8BE7404911906999110BA82AA0@Home> References: <55B25B8BE7404911906999110BA82AA0@Home> Message-ID: Thanks Michael, I am sorry to hear this. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > The surgery will not make you better then next day but , all other >> things being equal, will get better and longer lasting results. >> > > Dr. Daughter tells me that the statistics on back surgery are/were/? > terrible - 25% get better, 25% get worse, and 50% have no change. Yet I > know several people who are delighted with various different back surgeries. > If you have it done, go to the most experienced people you can find and > check their success record for the particular procedure you need. > > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 5 10:41:21 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 11:41:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues Message-ID: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I have some back issues..... ..... free for the postage.... I think ED has some too From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 5 10:42:38 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sears warrantee and torque wrench In-Reply-To: <20110505161028.J6IAV.18583.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> References: <20110505161028.J6IAV.18583.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Message-ID: <977961.29182.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm not a professional mechanic, so read this in that light. My tools are a combination of Craftsman, a tiny bit of Snap-on/Blue Point, S&K, old Harbor Freight (before the China Syndrome), Stanley, and others. When I needed a tool right away I bought new....somewhere, but one of the great values is buying tools used. Good tools last and can be purchased reasonably. I also based some of my purchases based on how much use I would subject the tool to. For example, all of my air sockets were off-brand; I don't need A-list sockets. As for the warranty issue.....Some people abuse the tool warranties and mechanics told me personal stories of intentionally snapping-off screwdrivers in a vise to get new. I also don't think manufacturers should be required to replace with new a bunch of worn-out old tools that someone just bought at a tag sale. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu May 5 10:46:58 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:46:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget Shell - OH-$50 In-Reply-To: References: <158246.99366.qm@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: Wow $50. for a round wheel arch Midget shell that is a bargain. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:36 PM, HealeyRick wrote: http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2362323006.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Too bad there are no pictures... It might be the tub that I sold to a guy a little north of Columbus a few years ago! He paid more than that though. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 5 11:20:32 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:20:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> References: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> Message-ID: This is a good point that Michael made. My particular problem is quite different than normal arthritis or disc problems. It is not correctable by surgery, so the only treatment is pain mitigation. Really, Linda, find the best doc you can and trust him to know more about this than all of us combined. The steroid shots work fairly well for me, but that is my only choice. You may have others. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:17 AM To: Linda Grunthaner ; Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? > Steroids anyone ; ) Be very careful here. Other's experiences may be for other causes - there are many. This is serious medical stuff for body mechanics, not car mechanics. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 5 11:28:00 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:28:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> References: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Message-ID: What? You'd be looking to find out her phone # ? ;) > From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com > > We would start asking questions if you said you had been married to her twice. > > > > >> Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) > > > > I was married to one once.... notice the word "once" > _______________________________________________ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 5 11:39:17 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:39:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> References: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Message-ID: I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > We would start asking questions if you said you had been married to her > twice. > > > > >> Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) > > > > I was married to one once.... notice the word "once" > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 5 11:52:29 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:52:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: References: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> Message-ID: > ... Really, Linda, find the > best doc you can and trust him to know more about this than all of us > combined. But bear in mind that his priorities are not necessarily the same as yours and he will not have to live with the results like you will, so be diligent in your research and do NOT simply accept whatever the doctor says. David L From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 5 12:07:04 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 11:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Message-ID: <268112.58031.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In my book, that more or less overrides any of the negatives. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Brad Fornal I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 5 12:10:52 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1618261973.271347.1304619052280.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I don't see what sense there is in just talking about it... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu May 5 12:10:20 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:10:20 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Triangular inner fender support Message-ID: <20110505.121020.22727.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> I'm not sure if I'm the only one that drives their Spridget on dirt or not, but I have an ongoing problem with collecting (OK, a problem with NOT collecting rocks) of rocks and debris between the two frame braces just behind and inboard of the front wheels. Has anyone thought of blocking off the outer of these two other than me? does anyone think that there would be airflow (cooling) problems created by doing this? I've been toying with the idea of fabricating some removable composite panels to block the rocks. I know that when I disassembled the MKII, I had to use a screwdriver to get all of the sand out of one side, and I am constantly (when I can drive it) vacuuming rocks out of the MKI at this spot. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Soaring 3000% Sign up for Free to find out what the next 3000% Stock Winner is! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc2e87d1197c29cd16st01duc From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu May 5 12:12:46 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:12:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Message-ID: Speaking of oral... *http://tinyurl.com/3hsesq6* Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution > the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > > > We would start asking questions if you said you had been married to her > > twice. > > > > > > > >> Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) > > > > > > I was married to one once.... notice the word "once" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 5 12:20:51 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] GWD: Our work force.. Message-ID: <699816113.271481.1304619651845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The population of this country is 300 million. 160 million are retired. That leaves 140 million to do the work. There are 85 million in school, which leaves 55 million to do the work. Of this there are 35 million employed by the federal government, leaving 20 million to do the work. 2.8 million are in the armed forces preoccupied with killing Osama Bin-Laden, which leaves 17.2 million to do the work. Take from that total the 15.8 million people who work for state and city governments and that leaves 1.4 million to do the work. At any given time there are 188,000 people in hospitals, leaving 1,212,000 to do the work. Now, there are 1,211,998 people in prisons. That leaves just two people to do the work. You and me. And there you are, sitting on your ass, at your computer, reading jokes... Nice ... Real nice. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 12:22:53 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:22:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank left us all in good hands with each other. Message-ID: Thanks List for your help today, Frank left us all in good hands with each other. We are all very lucky to have had him in our lives. getting weepy now. We love you Frank. Lin From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 5 12:27:28 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:27:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02>, Message-ID: You mean they just talk about it? ;) > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com > > I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution > the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > > > We would start asking questions if you said you had been married to her > > twice. > > > > > > > >> Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) > > > > > > I was married to one once.... notice the word "once" > > _______________________________________________ From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Thu May 5 12:32:39 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:32:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America References: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Message-ID: >I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution > the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... > > The French do bake an excellent Baguettes as well.... Greg Higgins From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Thu May 5 12:44:30 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:44:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <1906160858.268183.1304606434946.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110505161849.AVMBH.18639.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Message-ID: I don't see how this is anything new. We have been doing a similar thing in Automation for years (not for this purpose though!) Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Hefner Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 1:13 PM To: Brad Fornal; Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Speaking of oral... *http://tinyurl.com/3hsesq6* Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant > contribution the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > > > We would start asking questions if you said you had been married to > > her twice. > > > > > > > >> Gotta love those French women, eh? ;) > > > > > > I was married to one once.... notice the word "once" > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.c > > om > > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pondhopautomation at gmail.com From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu May 5 12:55:54 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 11:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bunch o' Bugeye parts....Atlanta Message-ID: <524831.9691.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/2301219867.html Just sharing, NPI Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 5 12:56:41 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 13:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues In-Reply-To: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> << ..... free for the postage.... >> I'd be MORE than elated to send mine to anyone Postage PAID !! << I think ED has some too >> THAT Peter, IS the understatement of the DECADE. I shall expound a little later. And to several posts at one time as I have been 'watching' this discussion ! Me From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu May 5 12:59:56 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:59:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sears warrantee and torque wrench Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD0265458@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Ed wrote: "...I smile at the 'we tight' postings. I conclude though that it is not just cost, but rather satisfaction at having won the battle and saving one more item from the landfill. Goodness knows we throw enough stuff away. So, here is an old engine that lights right up, after some fiddling of course, and will mow many lawns to come...." Sometimes repairing is not worth the money but the reward comes from the satisfaction of knowing you were able to get the POS running again and you did not add another piece of garbage to our world of waste. 58 years on Ford NAA Jubilee tractor 32-years on Kenmore washer and dryer 25 years on Craftsman rotary mower 20 years on Craftsman riding mower (with power by Kohler) Seems like the older it is, the more satisfying it is to still be having fun with it. Come to think of it, life is like that. -JohnD Running the Rallye to Reno in a 1953 MGTD www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 5 13:06:32 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] GWD: Our work force.. In-Reply-To: <699816113.271481.1304619651845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <699816113.271481.1304619651845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Right there is the problem. Someone needs to let them know he's already been killed. jay ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS 2.8 million are in the armed forces preoccupied with killing Osama Bin-Laden, From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 5 13:29:13 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 15:29:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] GWD: Our work force.. In-Reply-To: <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <699816113.271481.1304619651845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, they don't seem to be getting the picture ... ;) Robert D > > Right there is the problem. > > Someone needs to let them know he's already been killed. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave KK7SS > > > 2.8 million are in the armed forces preoccupied with killing Osama Bin-Laden, > _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 5 13:30:05 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 15:30:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] GWD: Our work force.. In-Reply-To: <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <699816113.271481.1304619651845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, they don't seem to be getting the picture ... ;) Robert D > > Right there is the problem. > > Someone needs to let them know he's already been killed. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave KK7SS > > > 2.8 million are in the armed forces preoccupied with killing Osama Bin-Laden, > _______________________________________________ From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 5 13:32:13 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sears warrantee and torque wrench In-Reply-To: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD0265458@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> References: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD0265458@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <777770.49639.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> My tractor has a Kohler engine and my bathroom has a Kohler toilet. I'm just sayin' jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: "Deikis, John G" 20 years on Craftsman riding mower (with power by Kohler) From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 14:27:38 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:27:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues In-Reply-To: <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> References: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> Message-ID: You guys are funny. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << ..... free for the postage.... >> > > I'd be MORE than elated to send mine to anyone Postage PAID !! > > > << I think ED has some too >> > > THAT Peter, IS the understatement of the DECADE. > > I shall expound a little later. And to several posts at one time as I > have been 'watching' this discussion ! > > Me > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 14:31:49 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:31:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues I just had myMRI? In-Reply-To: References: <8A0FD998BE26458DBE93A14853F5F737@Home> Message-ID: I just had an epidural in my L4-L5 for a herniated disc and some arthritis. I hope it works : ) I had 4 weeks worth of PT which didn't help so this was the best approach. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > ... Really, Linda, find the > > best doc you can and trust him to know more about this than all of us > > combined. > > But bear in mind that his priorities are not necessarily the same as > yours and he will not have to live with the results like you will, so > be diligent in your research and do NOT simply accept whatever the > doctor says. > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 14:33:24 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:33:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bunch o' Bugeye parts....Atlanta In-Reply-To: <524831.9691.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <524831.9691.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nice Ed even better if he has the title. Looks solid. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/2301219867.html > > Just sharing, NPI > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 5 15:09:29 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:09:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <06F9ACFF-1047-49FA-8B26-1FE5E9B91C49@att.net> References: <20110504220504.SJNSN.12364.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> <236A469F-3865-46BE-8C57-00BE3800E57A@mac.com> <20110505141938.33B9718787B@autox.team.net> <06F9ACFF-1047-49FA-8B26-1FE5E9B91C49@att.net> Message-ID: Mike, If you listen closely you can hear his elbow click.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Mike MacLean wrote: > As far as accuracy goes, my buddy that restores big Healeys for auction is > an > amazing mechanic and an encyclopedia of mechanical knowledge. I have > watched > him torque a head WITHOUT a torque wrench. I asked him how close he was to > the correct torque. He handed me a beam type torque wrench and said, > "check > it". Damn if he had not just about nailed the right torque specs! He's > got > the most amazing talent removing bolts that are corroded and rusty without > braking the heads off. The same bolts I break with regularity. Some > people > just have the touch. > Mike MacLean From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 5 15:23:01 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:23:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues In-Reply-To: References: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> Message-ID: They are definitely funny. They are humorous too! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > You guys are funny. > Lin > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " > wrote: > > > << ..... free for the postage.... >> > > > > I'd be MORE than elated to send mine to anyone Postage PAID !! > > > > > > << I think ED has some too >> > > > > THAT Peter, IS the understatement of the DECADE. > > > > I shall expound a little later. And to several posts at one time as > I > > have been 'watching' this discussion ! > > > > Me > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 5 15:34:26 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:34:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sears warrantee and torque wrench In-Reply-To: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD0265458@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> References: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD0265458@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <5A691E2375DE43E3ACCD265237DA4411@HomePC> -----Original Message----- From: Deikis, John G Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 1:59 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sears warrantee and torque wrench Seems like the older it is, the more satisfying it is to still be having fun with it. Come to think of it, life is like that. -JohnD Running the Rallye to Reno in a 1953 MGTD www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ John, I recall you recently talking about how old YOU are. So what parts are you still having fun with? ;-) LAD From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 5 15:37:47 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 17:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com> Do French women shave their armpits? Enquiring minds need to know.. In a message dated 05/05/2011 19:35:05 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: In my book, that more or less overrides any of the negatives. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Brad Fornal I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 5 15:52:24 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:52:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues In-Reply-To: References: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4DC31C18.5050902@justbrits.com> << You guys are funny. > Lin >> NOT. Dead freakin serious [wishing it could be done or was that simple]. Where you on crutches that I missed seeing ?? From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu May 5 16:00:04 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 17:00:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America References: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com> Message-ID: I thought you all were discussing oral sex? How is this related? ----- Original Message ----- From: Do French women shave their armpits? Enquiring minds need to know.. From grday at btinternet.com Thu May 5 16:51:45 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:51:45 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America References: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com> Message-ID: <337C0FD9094B4ABF9CA9B27BE9D3C7A7@user8634b3d69b> Wes, I would have thought you knew by now..... ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: <> Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America > Do French women shave their armpits? Enquiring minds need to know.. > > > > In a message dated 05/05/2011 19:35:05 GMT Daylight Time, > writes: > > In my book, that more or less overrides any of the negatives. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Brad Fornal <> > > I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant > contribution > the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... > _______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 16:56:00 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:56:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues In-Reply-To: <4DC31C18.5050902@justbrits.com> References: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> <4DC31C18.5050902@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Sorry your back is so very bad Ed wish there was something to help you. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << You guys are funny. > > Lin >> > > NOT. Dead freakin serious [wishing it could be done or was that simple]. > > Where you on crutches that I missed seeing ?? > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From lists at dinospider.com Thu May 5 17:02:13 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:02:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DC32C75.5090405@dinospider.com> once they are on their knees showing you they invented oral, will you really be checking their armpits ? We are getting REALLY OFF TOPIC guys lets be careful how far off topic we go before we upset someone. This is not Zappa, Cats, or Guns, some people take this stuff seriously. mike On 05/05/2011 03:00 PM, Mark wrote: > I thought you all were discussing oral sex? How is this related? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > > Do French women shave their armpits? Enquiring minds need to know.. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 5 17:02:53 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:02:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <1618261973.271347.1304619052280.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1618261973.271347.1304619052280.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Oh, sorry Dave, I should have explained a bit more in detail. I know as married folks get older, "oral sex" means screaming "F YOU" at each other, when you pass in the hallway. This is NOT what I was referring to. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I don't see what sense there is in just talking about it... > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > > I believe it was BZ that pointed out that the only significant contribution > the French brought to the world, was oral sex.... > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 17:03:13 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:03:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Triangular inner fender support In-Reply-To: <20110505.121020.22727.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> References: <20110505.121020.22727.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Interesting idea I would like to know too. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm the only one that drives their Spridget on dirt or not, > but I have an ongoing problem with collecting (OK, a problem with NOT > collecting rocks) of rocks and debris between the two frame braces just > behind > and inboard of the front wheels. Has anyone thought of blocking off the > outer > of these two other than me? > does anyone think that there would be airflow (cooling) problems created by > doing this? I've been toying with the idea of fabricating some removable > composite panels to block the rocks. > I know that when I disassembled the MKII, I had to use a screwdriver to get > all of the sand out of one side, and I am constantly (when I can drive it) > vacuuming rocks out of the MKI at this spot. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Penny Stock Soaring 3000% > Sign up for Free to find out what the next 3000% Stock Winner is! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc2e87d1197c29cd16st01duc > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu May 5 17:29:56 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues In-Reply-To: References: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> <4DC31C18.5050902@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <760515.7684.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lin, When I saw your post "anybody out there with back issues" I was wondering which magazine you were talking about and was going to say I have lots of old issues of HotRod magazines... - David Booker Long Island From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 5 17:34:22 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:34:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <1618261973.271347.1304619052280.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > Oh, sorry Dave, I should have explained a bit more in detail. > I know as married folks get older, "oral sex" means screaming "F YOU" at > each other, when you pass in the hallway. > This is NOT what I was referring to. As opposed to Woody Allen's classic dissertation on oral contraception, wherein he says, "I was involved in a very good case of this recently when I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said no." David L From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 5 17:34:30 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:34:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC Anyone out there with back issues In-Reply-To: <760515.7684.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <201105050941137.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DC2F2E9.9030008@justbrits.com> <4DC31C18.5050902@justbrits.com> <760515.7684.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: David I didn't notice it until you just said that. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:29 PM, David Booker wrote: > Lin, > When I saw your post "anybody out there with back issues" I was wondering > which magazine you were talking about and was going to say I have lots of > old issues of HotRod magazines... > > - David Booker > Long Island From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 5 17:47:41 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <299073205.275563.1304639261109.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Sorry... I should have remembered... I've been single a long time now.. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" Oh, sorry Dave, I should have explained a bit more in detail. I know as married folks get older, "oral sex" means screaming "F YOU" at each other, when you pass in the hallway. This is NOT what I was referring to. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu May 5 18:10:47 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 17:10:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <20110504220504.SJNSN.12364.root@cdptpa-web27-z01> <236A469F-3865-46BE-8C57-00BE3800E57A@mac.com> <20110505141938.33B9718787B@autox.team.net> <06F9ACFF-1047-49FA-8B26-1FE5E9B91C49@att.net> Message-ID: <146AE5B9-4253-4BB8-A1D7-613C2FA95194@att.net> Boy, he's had me fooled all this time! Mike Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2011, at 14:09, Jim Johnson wrote: > Mike, > > If you listen closely you can hear his elbow click.... ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Mike MacLean wrote: > >> As far as accuracy goes, my buddy that restores big Healeys for auction is >> an >> amazing mechanic and an encyclopedia of mechanical knowledge. I have >> watched >> him torque a head WITHOUT a torque wrench. I asked him how close he was to >> the correct torque. He handed me a beam type torque wrench and said, >> "check >> it". Damn if he had not just about nailed the right torque specs! He's >> got >> the most amazing talent removing bolts that are corroded and rusty without >> braking the heads off. The same bolts I break with regularity. Some >> people >> just have the touch. >> Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From rbastedo at gmail.com Thu May 5 19:37:29 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:37:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget Message-ID: This "business real estate" guy bought the place next door a few years ago. Since then parking at my house has been hellish, always hard to find a place to park even in front of my own home. There's a drive way next to my house, between our properties, so today when HIS customers were taking up all available spots I parked the Midget there. So the owner of the place, lets call him "Mike", came out and backed his white BMW right into the front of my Midget. Really caved in the drivers side front fender from the front. Next he comes and knocks loudly on my door and says something like "I didn't see it, it's so low". Now it's 5:30 PM, not raining, perfectly daylight. His tire tracks show he backed straight into my car. I got the distinct feeling he was pissed off at me for him backing into my car. He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. Rick (freaking heck) Bastedo From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu May 5 20:03:21 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:03:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I'll wait and get one used on eBay Message-ID: <014e01cc0b91$c735d860$55a18920$@net> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/lamborghini/8489528/La mborghini-Aventador-review.html From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 5 20:34:15 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 02:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1181020242.277849.1304649255155.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Take lots of pictures, lots ....including the tire tracks.. BTDT The guy that hit me in the passenger side is now suing me for T-boning him... for $300,000!! Good job I have pictures showing zero damage to my front bumper.. not even a scratch!! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu May 5 20:58:37 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 21:58:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I'll wait and get one used on eBay In-Reply-To: <014e01cc0b91$c735d860$55a18920$@net> References: <014e01cc0b91$c735d860$55a18920$@net> Message-ID: <4DC363DD.1010303@tx.rr.com> Looks awesome. Styling appears to be influenced by the F-22 Raptor: http://www.check-6.com/gallery/img/jet_fighters/f22_raptor_katsu.jpg > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/lamborghini/8489528/Lamborghini-Aventador-review.html > ______________ From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 5 21:35:13 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 22:35:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC36C71.7060700@justbrits.com> << He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". >> CALL the COPS, Rick. That is what's know as "leaving the scene of a property damage accident." And, when calling, SAY you ARE willing to "Sign a Complaint". You might have to TELL the Investigating Office that you WANT to file one!! From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu May 5 22:47:43 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 00:47:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] GWD: Our work force.. In-Reply-To: <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <699816113.271481.1304619651845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jay wrote: Right there is the problem. Someone needs to let them know he's already been killed. --------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, and now there is a new drink to celebrate his passing. It's called the bin laden martini. It's made with two shots and a splash! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 5 23:25:08 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 00:25:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: <4DC36C71.7060700@justbrits.com> References: <4DC36C71.7060700@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Depends upon where it happens. Each state has different laws about this. In some states the only thing required is to exchange insurance info. Cops in most states will not write a ticket for a fender bender in a mall parking lot. Instead they make a "blotter report". Something like that, you better have witnesses and pictures!! In most states it is only "leaving the scene..." if it happens on a public roadway. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal > with this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". >> > > CALL the COPS, Rick. > > That is what's know as "leaving the scene of a property damage accident." > > And, when calling, SAY you ARE willing to "Sign a Complaint". You might > have to TELL the Investigating Office that you WANT to file one!! > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri May 6 05:06:29 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 04:06:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: <4DC36C71.7060700@justbrits.com> References: <4DC36C71.7060700@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <580D1B40083D462686F6D715FB7818FD@spider> Yes, insist on filing a complaint. ...bill in corvallis ======================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shop at " Just Brits " Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:35 PM Cc: SPRIDGETS Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget << He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". >> CALL the COPS, Rick. That is what's know as "leaving the scene of a property damage accident." And, when calling, SAY you ARE willing to "Sign a Complaint". You might have to TELL the Investigating Office that you WANT to file one!! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 6 05:33:14 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:33:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <1618261973.271347.1304619052280.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: haha. You are funny David, Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:34 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh, sorry Dave, I should have explained a bit more in detail. > > I know as married folks get older, "oral sex" means screaming "F YOU" at > > each other, when you pass in the hallway. > > This is NOT what I was referring to. > > As opposed to Woody Allen's classic dissertation on oral > contraception, wherein he says, "I was involved in a very good case of > this recently when I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said > no." > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 6 05:47:24 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:47:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice photo of Frank Message-ID: List, Here is a nice photo of Frank looking cool in my driveway when he came over with a spare valve head for Pinky, 07 or 08. Lin * http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/Frank_and_his_Austin_Healey_Speedwell * From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 6 06:46:18 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 05:46:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] GWD: Our work force.. In-Reply-To: References: <699816113.271481.1304619651845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <739803.5014.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1291775126.20110506054618@pacifier.com> Hello CosmicMag1380, The two shots and a splash joke is recycled. the original was about Leon Klinghoffer... what do you call a Klinghoffer cocktail? two shots and a splash. .. as in what does P.L.O. stand for?... Push Leon Overboard. That's for those who remember when the PLO took over the Achille Lauro. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" He who stands in corner with hands in pocket doesn't feel crazy, feels nuts. From frogeye at cox.net Fri May 6 07:38:02 2011 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:38:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info Message-ID: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> For anyone headed to Carlisle this year, I will have 2 spots and welcome anyone stopping by and spending a few minutes In years past there has been an effort to gather for lunch at noontime on Saturday. Not sure if that is the case again this year but thought Ibd toss that out there If anyone has a wishlist especially something large and pricey to ship, If I can help contact me offlist Ibll be bringing down a hardtop,Fiberglass nose and assorted goodies I am at C42/43 Letbs hope there is reasonable weather Alan From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 6 07:59:46 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:59:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree that you need lots of pics to document the damage and placement of the car. Skid mark pics saved me a lot of money many years ago when someone passed me as I turned into my garage and ripped the bumper off my VW Type II. Then report it to your insurance company after you get the name of his insurance. This is clearly his fault and should not cost you anything to get repaired. Since it is a classic car, the cost to repair will be higher. Just make sure the repairs are done right. Get the best Brit car shop in your area. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > This "business real estate" guy bought the place next door a few years ago. > Since then parking at my house has been hellish, always hard to find a > place > to park even in front of my own home. > There's a drive way next to my house, between our properties, so today when > HIS customers were taking up all available spots I parked the Midget there. > So the owner of the place, lets call him "Mike", came out and backed his > white BMW right into the front of my Midget. > Really caved in the drivers side front fender from the front. > > Next he comes and knocks loudly on my door and says something like "I > didn't > see it, it's so low". > Now it's 5:30 PM, not raining, perfectly daylight. > His tire tracks show he backed straight into my car. > I got the distinct feeling he was pissed off at me for him backing into my > car. > He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with > this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". > I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. > > Rick (freaking heck) Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 6 08:00:13 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:00:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC...Good info site/forum Message-ID: I was looking for a manual for my Unimat lathes and came across this site/forums. Pretty cool even if you are not a hobbyist machinist because it has helpful links for loads of other stuff. Full link for those who want it: http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=d47a7934f4fe9c1199286266248d6147& Tinyurl: *http://tinyurl.com/3g9cqwo* Lin From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 6 08:04:31 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:04:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> Message-ID: > Let's hope there is reasonable weather Are you implying that the bad weather all these years was Frank's fault? ;-) David L From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 6 08:16:59 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:16:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> Message-ID: As Frank always mentioned it always rains at Carlisle. I wasn't going to go after Frank passed but Frankie will be going so I will. See you there, yes lets do lunch. Lin On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:38 AM, alan wrote: > For anyone headed to Carlisle this year, I will have 2 spots and welcome > anyone stopping by and spending a few minutes > > In years past there has been an effort to gather for lunch at noontime on > Saturday. > Not sure if that is the case again this year but thought Ib d toss that out > there > If anyone has a wishlist especially something large and pricey to ship, If > I > can help contact me offlist > Ib ll be bringing down a hardtop,Fiberglass nose and assorted goodies > I am at C42/43 > > Letb s hope there is reasonable weather > > Alan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 6 08:56:32 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:56:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> Message-ID: Actually even though it did rain most every Carlisle weekend there were some dry mornings and afternoons. Being Frank always drove a Spridget to the event he always was wet. I think he mentioned one weekend in all that he attended that was completely dry. Lin On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Let's hope there is reasonable weather > > Are you implying that the bad weather all these years was Frank's fault? > ;-) > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 6 09:26:33 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O Message-ID: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A client of mine installs this product. Sounds almost too good to be true. http://www.fuelfromh2o.com/ jay fishbein wallingford, ct From clarici at verizon.net Fri May 6 09:29:36 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 11:29:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> Message-ID: <885452C2-E958-459F-B29A-62DF2436A5B1@verizon.net> Yeah this is my 23rd year going. Always went with my dad. Gonna be sad but I will meet up sat afternoon. I am going to be taking at least one of dads cars if not both. Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Actually even though it did rain most every Carlisle weekend there were some > dry mornings and afternoons. Being Frank always drove a Spridget to the > event he always was wet. I think he mentioned one weekend in all that he > attended that was completely dry. > Lin > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Let's hope there is reasonable weather >> >> Are you implying that the bad weather all these years was Frank's fault? >> ;-) >> David L >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 6 09:34:09 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:34:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <885452C2-E958-459F-B29A-62DF2436A5B1@verizon.net> References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> <885452C2-E958-459F-B29A-62DF2436A5B1@verizon.net> Message-ID: Frankie, Your dad would be glad to know you are. Lin On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote: > Yeah this is my 23rd year going. Always went with my dad. Gonna be sad but > I will meet up sat afternoon. I am going to be taking at least one of dads > cars if not both. > > Frankie > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 6, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > > > Actually even though it did rain most every Carlisle weekend there were > some > > dry mornings and afternoons. Being Frank always drove a Spridget to the > > event he always was wet. I think he mentioned one weekend in all that he > > attended that was completely dry. > > Lin > > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >>> Let's hope there is reasonable weather > >> > >> Are you implying that the bad weather all these years was Frank's fault? > >> ;-) > >> David L > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri May 6 10:08:36 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 12:08:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9c4a79$c3lbla@email.mtu.edu> At 11:26 AM 5/6/2011, Jay wrote: >A client of mine installs this product. > >Sounds almost too good to be true. That's because it is too good to be true. Let's see. Burn coal to make electricity. Use electricity to split H20. Then burn the hydrogen and oxygen. The energy balance just doesn't make sense. But, This and solar panels DO assure a good future for the coal powered electrical generation folks. And, if someone can do the proverbial "sell refrigerators to Eskimos," then more power to them! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri May 6 10:41:08 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:41:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$c3lbla@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <20110506164108.3VT6H.297644.root@hrndva-web03-z01> kind of fitting since today is the anniversary of the Hindenburg "incident" Chris ---- Tim Collins wrote: > At 11:26 AM 5/6/2011, Jay wrote: > >A client of mine installs this product. > > > >Sounds almost too good to be true. > > That's because it is too good to be true. > > Let's see. Burn coal to make electricity. Use electricity to split > H20. Then burn the hydrogen and oxygen. The energy balance just > doesn't make sense. > > But, This and solar panels DO assure a good future for the coal > powered electrical generation folks. > > And, if someone can do the proverbial "sell refrigerators to > Eskimos," then more power to them! > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 6 10:44:56 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:44:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <4DC32C75.5090405@dinospider.com> References: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com>, , <4DC32C75.5090405@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Only some? In related news:http://lifestyle.sympatico.ca/relationships/not_all_young_men_want_more_ sex/c6a9ea74orhttp://tinyurl.com/63czqz7 > some people take this stuff seriously. > > mike From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 6 10:59:23 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <8fbeb.33cdce3b.3af582eb@aol.com> Italians, Germans, Spanish, St Helenian Yes but French NO. In a message dated 05/05/2011 23:51:34 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: Wes, I would have thought you knew by now..... ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: <> Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America > Do French women shave their armpits? Enquiring minds need to know.. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 6 11:01:00 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Message-ID: <8fed1.2ea565d2.3af5834c@aol.com> Is Victor Kiam on the list? In a message dated 06/05/2011 00:24:54 GMT Daylight Time, lists at dinospider.com writes: some people take this stuff seriously. mike From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 6 11:02:18 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Triangular inner fender support Message-ID: <900f5.60b1bd08.3af5839a@aol.com> Some people fit a blanking panel but from memory this restricts engine bay cooling. I guess if it really bothered you it would be possible to fit mesh. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 06/05/2011 00:25:22 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: Interesting idea I would like to know too. Lin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm the only one that drives their Spridget on dirt or not, > but I have an ongoing problem with collecting (OK, a problem with NOT > collecting rocks) of rocks and debris between the two frame braces just > behind > and inboard of the front wheels. Has anyone thought of blocking off the > outer > of these two other than me? > does anyone think that there would be airflow (cooling) problems created by > doing this? I've been toying with the idea of fabricating some removable > composite panels to block the rocks. > I know that when I disassembled the MKII, I had to use a screwdriver to get > all of the sand out of one side, and I am constantly (when I can drive it) > vacuuming rocks out of the MKI at this spot. From rdgard at cox.net Fri May 6 11:04:59 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:04:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, I know that the first reaction is that he is an A** Hole and that sounds like it is true, and go get him, sue the crap out of da bastard etc. But wait a minute. Some time back, I lived next to a nice guy but his neighbor behind him, whose drive way ran between our houses, was an A** Hole in the first degree. He made both of our lives living hell in our neighborhood, including mine, who he only dis liked, not HATED! He used every letter of the law against both of us, every week, the cops were called at least once a week, music playing, dog barking, cat stepped in his yard, my neighbors flowers leaned one inch over the A**H's property line and he ripped out the whole flower bed, he honked his horn (as a warning to oncoming traffic) under my bedroom window every morning at 6 AM, etc, etc. etc. I am suggesting to be nice to him, no matter how hard it is, take photos and get evidence but don't use it unless you have to. You have two goals here, one is to get your car fixed properly and the second is to not start a neighborhood war because they can escalate into full and open warfare that can last the rest of your life as long as you live there. It can rip your guts out and make Iraq look like a walk in the park! Show your family and him that you are a bigger man than he is. Loose the battle and win the war and live in a happy house the rest of your life. Mine got so bad I sold and moved. My A** Hole neighbor could be seen through his picture window at night walking around with a shot gun and watching us with binoculars! Not worth pissing him off. IMHO! Bob in San Diego Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com ********************************************************** This "business real estate" guy bought the place next door a few years ago. Since then parking at my house has been hellish, always hard to find a place to park even in front of my own home. There's a drive way next to my house, between our properties, so today when HIS customers were taking up all available spots I parked the Midget there. So the owner of the place, lets call him "Mike", came out and backed his white BMW right into the front of my Midget. Really caved in the drivers side front fender from the front. Next he comes and knocks loudly on my door and says something like "I didn't see it, it's so low". Now it's 5:30 PM, not raining, perfectly daylight. His tire tracks show he backed straight into my car. I got the distinct feeling he was pissed off at me for him backing into my car. He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. Rick (freaking heck) Bastedo ***************************************** From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 6 11:07:00 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 10:07:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've never really understood why hydrogen and oxygen together won't burn. But then I don't understand why people watch reality TV. BZ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 6 11:16:33 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:16:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$c3lbla@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <20110506171633.GPJJV.23729.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> I think you are correct but I think there is more to it, and at some point in time the comparison could change. The full analysis would need to determine how many miles you can drive on $10 worth of gasoline vs. how far you can drive on $10 worth of electricity, and that is a complicated analysis. My belief is that petroleum-derived gasoline will continue to increase in price, probably faster than cost of electricity. At some point the electricity side of things might be the most economical. Right now we have lots of coal, and we are trying to develop other forms of energy such as wind. OTOH we are also trying to develop other forms of hydrocarbon fuels, and there are other ways to power cars with hydrogen and/or electricity other than electrolysis. > That's because it is too good to be true. > > Let's see. Burn coal to make electricity. Use electricity to split > H20. Then burn the hydrogen and oxygen. The energy balance just > doesn't make sense. From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 6 11:18:49 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 12:18:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: References: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com> <4DC32C75.5090405@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <201105061018110.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Keep on topic, would ya! That study's in OZ Peter At 11:44 AM 5/6/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: >Only some? >In related >news:http://lifestyle.sympatico.ca/relationships/not_all_young_men_want_more_ >sex/c6a9ea74orhttp://tinyurl.com/63czqz7 > > > some people take this stuff seriously. > > > > mike From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 6 11:26:12 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:26:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <201105061018110.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com>, , <4DC32C75.5090405@dinospider.com>, , <201105061018110.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: "Down under" isn't on topic? > Keep on topic, would ya! That study's in OZ > > Peter > > At 11:44 AM 5/6/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: > >Only some? > >In related news:>> http://lifestyle.sympatico.ca/relationships/not_all_young_men_want_more_sex/c 6a9ea74>>or>>http://tinyurl.com/63czqz7 > > > > > some people take this stuff seriously. > > > > > > mike From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 6 11:29:58 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 13:29:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: So how much does the electricity cost? >A client of mine installs this product. > > Sounds almost too good to be true. > > http://www.fuelfromh2o.com/ > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mdrowe at optonline.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 6 11:43:59 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 13:43:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 10-15 years ago, a mechanic working on my car asked me to look at a video of an engine that ran on water. He wanted to know what a "scientist" thought of it. The video showed a bottle of water bubbling into the carb of a small engine - lawnmower perhaps. The bubbles were said to be hydrogen and oxygen produced by a very precisely cut steel rod in a pipe, the lengths of which make the magnetic field of the earth disasociate the water. The inventor was not selling the machine, itself, but rather rights to distribute plans for the steel-rod hydrogen generator in a specific region. Only $10,000 per region - not bad. The whole gadget was bolted to a 2" thick metal plate which, of course, was hollow and full of propane or natural gas. The motor ran just fine. Michael Rowe From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri May 6 11:54:59 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <248771.10504.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Bob, I suppose you think we should not have shot Bin Laden too. Flame suit on! Mike MacLean --- On Fri, 5/6/11, Bob Gardner wrote: From: Bob Gardner Subject: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 5:04 PM Rick, I know that the first reaction is that he is an A** Hole and that sounds like it is true, and go get him, sue the crap out of da bastard etc. But wait a minute. Some time back, I lived next to a nice guy but his neighbor behind him, whose drive way ran between our houses, was an A** Hole in the first degree. He made both of our lives living hell in our neighborhood, including mine, who he only dis liked, not HATED! He used every letter of the law against both of us, every week, the cops were called at least once a week, music playing, dog barking, cat stepped in his yard, my neighbors flowers leaned one inch over the A**H's property line and he ripped out the whole flower bed, he honked his horn (as a warning to oncoming traffic) under my bedroom window every morning at 6 AM, etc, etc. etc. I am suggesting to be nice to him, no matter how hard it is, take photos and get evidence but don't use it unless you have to. You have two goals here, one is to get your car fixed properly and the second is to not start a neighborhood war because they can escalate into full and open warfare that can last the rest of your life as long as you live there. It can rip your guts out and make Iraq look like a walk in the park! Show your family and him that you are a bigger man than he is. Loose the battle and win the war and live in a happy house the rest of your life. Mine got so bad I sold and moved. My A** Hole neighbor could be seen through his picture window at night walking around with a shot gun and watching us with binoculars! Not worth pissing him off. IMHO! Bob in San Diego Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com ********************************************************** This "business real estate" guy bought the place next door a few years ago. Since then parking at my house has been hellish, always hard to find a place to park even in front of my own home. There's a drive way next to my house, between our properties, so today when HIS customers were taking up all available spots I parked the Midget there. So the owner of the place, lets call him "Mike", came out and backed his white BMW right into the front of my Midget. Really caved in the drivers side front fender from the front. Next he comes and knocks loudly on my door and says something like "I didn't see it, it's so low". Now it's 5:30 PM, not raining, perfectly daylight. His tire tracks show he backed straight into my car. I got the distinct feeling he was pissed off at me for him backing into my car. He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. Rick (freaking heck) Bastedo ***************************************** Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Fri May 6 11:56:21 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O Message-ID: <545653.25452.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The Heat-n-Glo fireplace company had an H2O fireplace three years ago at the convention in Reno. It cost $25,000, required 240v power and made maybe enough heat to cook hotdogs one at a time. Skip J. From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 6 11:59:55 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:59:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: <238985.67090.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I've never really understood why hydrogen and oxygen together won't burn. > But then I don't understand why people watch reality TV. Ya know, that was my biggest problem with highschool chemistry class. Physics taught us interesting believable stuff like you take a fuel in the presence of oxygen, add enough heat and you have a fire. Chemistry came along and tried to tell me that you can take one of the most potent fuels known to man, combine it with oxygen and throw it at a fire already in progress to put it out... Did not compute! Not even gonna touch the mystery of why anyone would watch an oxymoron like "reality tv". David L From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri May 6 12:15:35 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget References: Message-ID: Never get mad, get even. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" To: "SPRIDGETS" Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget > This "business real estate" guy bought the place next door a few years > ago. > Since then parking at my house has been hellish, always hard to find a > place > to park even in front of my own home. > There's a drive way next to my house, between our properties, so today > when > HIS customers were taking up all available spots I parked the Midget > there. > So the owner of the place, lets call him "Mike", came out and backed his > white BMW right into the front of my Midget. > Really caved in the drivers side front fender from the front. > > Next he comes and knocks loudly on my door and says something like "I > didn't > see it, it's so low". > Now it's 5:30 PM, not raining, perfectly daylight. > His tire tracks show he backed straight into my car. > I got the distinct feeling he was pissed off at me for him backing into my > car. > He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with > this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". > I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. > > Rick (freaking heck) Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1325 / Virus Database: 1500/3617 - Release Date: 05/05/11 From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 6 12:16:54 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <545653.25452.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1471948836.285254.1304705814035.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> My basic problem when looking at this is "how do you produce the electricity?" Nuclear - under attack most everywhere! Hydro-electric - dams are under attack (espceially here in the NW) Coal fire plants - under attack by clean air folks. Oil fired plants - Oil ain't going anywhere but UP! So is it really a solution?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 6 13:11:46 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <375370.46049.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Rick has every right to be upset. Let me repeat that. Rick has every right to be upset. But unless the owner doesn't have insurance, or denies this happened, I don't see the problem here. And the other party can only be "sued" for the cost of repairs and loss of use while it's in the shop. Rick does have the option of putting in a claim under his collision and letting them subrogate against the other party and when successful his deductible would be refunded to him. Years ago, an idiot in front of me at a red light, backed-up into my very nice 72 Midget. He actually said almost the same thing the guy said to Rick: "I couldn't see you behind me." His insurance completely paid for all of the damages. I seem to remember them paying for two new fenders and a new valance on the car as well. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Jack Laird Never get mad, get even. From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 6 13:13:38 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wahoo Bugeye List Message-ID: <662711.65198.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I broke down last week and subscribed to the Bugeye Wahoo List. In a week I think I've received maybe 4 or 5 emails. Is there something wrong with my subscription or is traffic usually light over there? jay fishbein wallingford, ct From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 6 13:19:28 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 14:19:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <201105061018110.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <4932.7cfe4458.3af472ab@aol.com> <4DC32C75.5090405@dinospider.com> <201105061018110.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4DC449C0.1030606@justbrits.com> << Keep on topic, would ya! >> Can I have [even just] SOME of whatever yer SMOKIN', Peter ?!?! lol << That study's in OZ >> Well "Colin" DID change to Digest, but he IS here, [as of a couple days ago] so that 'counts', don't it ?!?!? Moi From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 6 14:01:59 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O Message-ID: So you don't have wind farms? In a message dated 06/05/2011 19:57:41 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at frontier.com writes: My basic problem when looking at this is "how do you produce the electricity?" Nuclear - under attack most everywhere! Hydro-electric - dams are under attack (espceially here in the NW) Coal fire plants - under attack by clean air folks. Oil fired plants - Oil ain't going anywhere but UP! So is it really a solution?? From nases at verizon.net Fri May 6 14:34:05 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:34:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61B1BDD7-320B-47F1-B401-3B81A76C7513@verizon.net> Not very prevalent here. It makes too much sense. Phil Nase home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 6, 2011, at 4:01 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > So you don't have wind farms? > > In a message dated 06/05/2011 19:57:41 GMT Daylight Time, > kk7ss at frontier.com writes: > > My basic problem when looking at this is "how do you produce the > electricity?" > > Nuclear - under attack most everywhere! > Hydro-electric - dams are under attack (espceially here in the NW) > Coal fire plants - under attack by clean air folks. > Oil fired plants - Oil ain't going anywhere but UP! > > So is it really a solution?? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 6 14:41:04 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:41:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > So you don't have wind farms? I drove through a wind farm in CA a month ago. Very few of the blades were turning. I have been through there maybe 5 times in the last 10 years, and have never seen more than a few turning. Michael Rowe From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 6 14:55:06 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 20:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <2123419127.287632.1304715101664.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1418106361.287649.1304715306487.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Yes... several. But not on the scale in California or Nevada. Also some small Solar farms. Certainly not enough to replace all the currently existing power sources. We have a Wind turbine farm about 15 miles from my house, 63 turbines, occupying 47 of the over 5,000 acres leased for hte project and producing a maximum of 96 MegaWatts... or about 1/12th of one average sized nuclear power station occupying much less land! I also live about 8 miles from WPPS #2, which is an operational Nuclear Generating plant producing 1.2 GigaWatts. Of the other two proposed stations, #1 and #3, in 1982 they were put on "extended delay" when they were more than 65% and 85% complete --- idiots!! Planned plants #4 and #5 are still awaiting funding - I'm not holding my breath! On Wednesday I toured what is known as 'B reactor' which produced the Plutonium for Trinity, Fat Boy and Little Man. Built in 1942 it was shut down in 1968 as part of the SALT1 treaty. >From empty sand dunes to production in 13 months, in active use for 25 years without a fault, leakage or error. As for safety, anyone remember the oil refinery explosions a few years ago in Texas (BP) and Japan . -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com So you don't have wind farms? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri May 6 14:58:18 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:58:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Revenge is a dish best served cold On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Never get mad, get even. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" > To: "SPRIDGETS" > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:37 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget > > > This "business real estate" guy bought the place next door a few years >> ago. >> Since then parking at my house has been hellish, always hard to find a >> place >> to park even in front of my own home. >> There's a drive way next to my house, between our properties, so today >> when >> HIS customers were taking up all available spots I parked the Midget >> there. >> So the owner of the place, lets call him "Mike", came out and backed his >> white BMW right into the front of my Midget. >> Really caved in the drivers side front fender from the front. >> >> Next he comes and knocks loudly on my door and says something like "I >> didn't >> see it, it's so low". >> Now it's 5:30 PM, not raining, perfectly daylight. >> His tire tracks show he backed straight into my car. >> I got the distinct feeling he was pissed off at me for him backing into my >> car. >> He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal with >> this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". >> I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. >> >> Rick (freaking heck) Bastedo >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1325 / Virus Database: 1500/3617 - Release Date: 05/05/11 >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From haynes386 at netzero.net Fri May 6 14:56:59 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 20:56:59 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Triangular inner fender support Message-ID: <20110506.145659.26202.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Thanks, Daniel, That was what I was concerned about, limiting the air flow or redirecting it to a place where the cross sectional area would cause a limitation of the cooling air flow. I guess I'll have to create a removable screen to do the job. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Triangular inner fender support Some people fit a blanking panel but from memory this restricts engine bay cooling. I guess if it really bothered you it would be possible to fit mesh. Weslake-Monza 1330 ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc46100adc212d78e0st01duc From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 6 15:07:13 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:07:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: <375370.46049.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <375370.46049.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jay wrote: He actually said almost the same thing the guy said to Rick: "I couldn't see you behind me." This happens a lot with motorcyclists and usually at higher speeds. "I never saw him" is the mantra of every person that hits a motorcyclist. In fact, what they mean is, "I never even looked for him". At least in a Spridget you stand half a chance of getting by without injury. -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 6 15:08:03 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:08:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wahoo Bugeye List In-Reply-To: <662711.65198.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <662711.65198.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's light. I get the digest only. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Jay wrote: > I broke down last week and subscribed to the Bugeye Wahoo List. > > In a week I think I've received maybe 4 or 5 emails. > > Is there something wrong with my subscription or is traffic usually light > over > there? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 6 15:36:08 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:36:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: <375370.46049.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0542B22B-5F23-4D76-9D57-03E5E19BEFE0@snet.net> Which is the reason why I will not get on a street bike anymore. Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 6, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jay wrote: > > He actually said almost the same thing the guy said to Rick: "I couldn't see > you behind me." > > This happens a lot with motorcyclists From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 6 15:49:27 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:49:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <1418106361.287649.1304715306487.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <2123419127.287632.1304715101664.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1418106361.287649.1304715306487.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Some really interesting energy data here: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cents_Per_Kilowatt-Hour FWIW, I now have 3 huge wind farms within a 15 mile radius of me. In spite of that, my electric bill just went up again..... The price per Kilowatt hour of wind generated electricity is about the same as for coal fired. However, there are some significant problems with maintaining the turbines and storing the power for when there is no wind. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Yes... several. But not on the scale in California or Nevada. > Also some small Solar farms. > Certainly not enough to replace all the currently existing power sources. > > We have a Wind turbine farm about 15 miles from my house, 63 turbines, > occupying 47 of the over 5,000 acres leased for hte project and producing a > maximum of 96 MegaWatts... or about 1/12th of one average sized nuclear > power station occupying much less land! > > I also live about 8 miles from WPPS #2, which is an operational Nuclear > Generating plant producing 1.2 GigaWatts. > Of the other two proposed stations, #1 and #3, in 1982 they were put on > "extended delay" when they were more than 65% and 85% complete --- idiots!! > Planned plants #4 and #5 are still awaiting funding - I'm not holding my > breath! > > On Wednesday I toured what is known as 'B reactor' which produced the > Plutonium for Trinity, Fat Boy and Little Man. Built in 1942 it was shut > down in 1968 as part of the SALT1 treaty. > >From empty sand dunes to production in 13 months, in active use for 25 > years without a fault, leakage or error. > > As for safety, anyone remember the oil refinery explosions a few years ago > in Texas (BP) and Japan . > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > > So you don't have wind farms? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri May 6 15:55:04 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. References: <248771.10504.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F4C0B21EDFA40018349365BBE678049@Dell9200> Are you sure we did? Mike, I'm going to need your Flame Suit! Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. Bob, I suppose you think we should not have shot Bin Laden too. Flame suit on! Mike MacLean From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 6 16:06:02 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:06:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Triangular inner fender support In-Reply-To: <20110506.145659.26202.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20110506.145659.26202.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: This one looks as if it uses dirt and gravel a bit..... ;-) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/3840987794_679b747c79.jpg Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Thanks, Daniel, > That was what I was concerned about, limiting the air flow or redirecting > it > to a place where the cross sectional area would cause a limitation of the > cooling air flow. I guess I'll have to create a removable screen to do the > job. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Triangular inner fender support > > > Some people fit a blanking panel but from memory this restricts engine bay > cooling. I guess if it really bothered you it would be possible to fit > mesh. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > ____________________________________________________________ > 2550% Penny Stock Gains? > Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc46100adc212d78e0st01duc > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From lists at dinospider.com Fri May 6 16:09:23 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 15:09:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: <0542B22B-5F23-4D76-9D57-03E5E19BEFE0@snet.net> References: <375370.46049.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <0542B22B-5F23-4D76-9D57-03E5E19BEFE0@snet.net> Message-ID: <4DC47193.2030206@dinospider.com> I said the same thing after 30 years of riding when soccer mom did not see me, never again will I ride on the street...... That lasted almost a year before I had a new bike that I daily commute on and then ride on weekends for pleasure :) mike On 05/06/2011 02:36 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > Which is the reason why I will not get on a street bike anymore. > > Jay > -An iPhone communication- > > On May 6, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jay wrote: >> >> He actually said almost the same thing the guy said to Rick: "I couldn't >> > see > >> you behind me." >> >> This happens a lot with motorcyclists >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 6 16:09:31 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:09:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC4719B.2020808@justbrits.com> << So you don't have wind farms? >> We have plenty just outside what is known as "The [seven] collar counties" [outside but surrounding Cook Co./Chicago]. There are scattered ones within, but not 'farms'. A very local to me is a Middle School that has one [ 1 ] and it IS spinning almost EVERY time I pass the school !! From millerls at ado13.com Fri May 6 16:09:48 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:09:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37D3D7B9-028F-480C-8C60-04F92CF341A5@ado13.com> BZ The answer to your first question is much easier than the answer to your second question. On May 6, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > I've never really understood why hydrogen and oxygen together won't burn. > But then I don't understand why people watch reality TV. > BZ From pchast at francomm.com Fri May 6 16:11:24 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:11:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, Pictures, a police report and an an immediate call to the insurance company even before you get 'their' information. If you can get the policeman in the picture even better. I had a mnwefljfha say to his company that I moved my parked car as he was comming around the corner. I supposedly caused him to hit me. He demolished the rear bumper and back 1/4 of the car. Tore up the automatic transmission park gear thingy too. Pete Athens, NY On Fri, 06 May 2011 09:59:46 -0400, Allen Hefner wrote: > > I agree that you need lots of pics to document the damage and placement > of > the car. Skid mark pics saved me a lot of money many years ago when > someone > passed me as I turned into my garage and ripped the bumper off my VW Type > II. > > Then report it to your insurance company after you get the name of his > insurance. This is clearly his fault and should not cost you anything to > get repaired. Since it is a classic car, the cost to repair will be > higher. Just make sure the repairs are done right. Get the best Brit > car > shop in your area. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > >> This "business real estate" guy bought the place next door a few years >> ago. >> Since then parking at my house has been hellish, always hard to find a >> place >> to park even in front of my own home. >> There's a drive way next to my house, between our properties, so today >> when >> HIS customers were taking up all available spots I parked the Midget >> there. >> So the owner of the place, lets call him "Mike", came out and backed his >> white BMW right into the front of my Midget. >> Really caved in the drivers side front fender from the front. >> >> Next he comes and knocks loudly on my door and says something like "I >> didn't >> see it, it's so low". >> Now it's 5:30 PM, not raining, perfectly daylight. >> His tire tracks show he backed straight into my car. >> I got the distinct feeling he was pissed off at me for him backing into >> my >> car. >> He said something like "I have somewhere I have to be, so we'll deal >> with >> this later - I have a dent n the back of my car". >> I'm pretty upset right now, maybe in a while I'll be more at peace. >> >> Rick (freaking heck) Bastedo >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 6 16:37:50 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) Message-ID: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I was loooking at some parts and their prices. An awful lot have something like $9.95 or $49.95 or some such - which got me thinking. Maybe we need a $9 bill and a 99cent coin! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri May 6 16:43:02 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:43:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: "Come see me before. Let's talk." Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? Rick B. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 6 16:56:44 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:56:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <37D3D7B9-028F-480C-8C60-04F92CF341A5@ado13.com> References: <37D3D7B9-028F-480C-8C60-04F92CF341A5@ado13.com> Message-ID: Well stated, Larry. I'm not entirely sure there IS an answer to the second... Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > BZ > > The answer to your first question is much easier than the answer to your > second question. > > On May 6, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > > I've never really understood why hydrogen and oxygen together won't burn. > > But then I don't understand why people watch reality TV. > > BZ > _______ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 6 16:58:10 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:58:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Just use three $3 bills. You can get 'em in San Fransisco I hear.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I was loooking at some parts and their prices. > An awful lot have something like $9.95 or $49.95 or some such - which got > me thinking. > Maybe we need a $9 bill and a 99cent coin! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri May 6 16:59:43 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:59:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: Start at 2k and go from there! BillM > Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:43:02 -0700 > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget > > He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: > > "Come see me before. Let's talk." > > Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? > > Rick B. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 6 17:02:14 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:02:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Be careful.... That can mean several things... Such as: 1) He doesn't want to turn it in to his insurance because his rates will go up.... (Not *your* problem!) 2) He doesn't have (or has insufficient) insurance.... (*Your* problem!! Get as much money as you can from him!!) Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: > > "Come see me before. Let's talk." > > Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? > > Rick B. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 6 17:09:15 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:09:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. In-Reply-To: <4F4C0B21EDFA40018349365BBE678049@Dell9200> References: <248771.10504.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4F4C0B21EDFA40018349365BBE678049@Dell9200> Message-ID: <3B5589E1A2114DE4B861DB2FDDFC54EF@HomePC> Won't be long before some moron demands a "long form" death certificate. Never underestimate the stupidity of the masses. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:55 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. Are you sure we did? Mike, I'm going to need your Flame Suit! Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. Bob, I suppose you think we should not have shot Bin Laden too. Flame suit on! Mike MacLean Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri May 6 17:18:06 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:18:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've seen this done. When I was 16... I borrowed my mother's car which was parked out front of our house. Backed into a parked Corvair; never saw him. It was dinner time so dad was home. As I walked into the house, he was walking out with his checkbook. He was smarter than I was; still is. Just don't get greedy. ...bill in corvallis ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 3:43 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: "Come see me before. Let's talk." Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? Rick B. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 6 17:18:16 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:18:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC481B8.7090202@justbrits.com> << "Come see me before. Let's talk." >> Get a LEGIT estiment but tell the Shop owner to pad it, Rick. I would !! From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri May 6 17:47:16 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: <590401.66889.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree, Rick...... get as much outta of it as you can and cherry out Frankie! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Bill Masquelier To: rick bastedo ; spridget list Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 6:59:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget Start at 2k and go from there! BillM > Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:43:02 -0700 > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget > > He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: > > "Come see me before. Let's talk." > > Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? > > Rick B. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 6 18:08:35 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:08:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. In-Reply-To: <3B5589E1A2114DE4B861DB2FDDFC54EF@HomePC> Message-ID: Years ago, an old guy wiped out three parked cars with his Buick. My Studebaker was in the middle of the sandwich. Of course, his insurance company began with the argument that my car was too old to be worth more than $200, but that was pretty easy to get around, since the cars were all parked when he hit them, and I just kept insisting that I wanted it put back the way it was regardless of what they thought it was worth. Where I ran into trouble was getting an estimate for having it fixed. I couldn't find a body shop that would touch it. His insurance ended up paying for the only shop that work on it, and they did a really crappy job. I brought them a NOS quarter panel and rear apron, and the just bondoed the original panels anyway. I ended up getting caught between his insurance company and a cut-throat body shop. The Studebaker never really recovered and I ended up selling it for $100 because the body work was so bad. I think my point is that getting an estimate will be the hardest part. They won't just pay you what you tell them it's going to cost to fix it. You'll have to get a body shop involved, and most of them don't get it when it comes to collector cars. BZ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 6 19:07:13 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 20:07:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: <2123419127.287632.1304715101664.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1418106361.287649.1304715306487.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DC49B41.6070204@tx.rr.com> I don't understand what's up with the wind farms. We have a LOT of them in west Texas, but anytime I've driven through an area with them, they are never running. Oil and nuclear can be dangerous, but so can wind turbines. I've seen videos of them coming apart while in operation. And then there is the possibility of falling off of the, snakebite, etc. Snakebite you ask? On "Dirty Jobs" they visited a wind farm and one of the workers said he had been bitten by a rattlesnake while working on one of the generators. Apparently while it was laying on the setting on the ground a snake crawled into it. Then they raised it up on its big mast and the next time the technician climbed to the top to work on it he was bitten by the snake, 200' up in the air. > Some really interesting energy data here: > > http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cents_Per_Kilowatt-Hour > > FWIW, I now have 3 huge wind farms within a 15 mile radius of me. In spite > of that, my electric bill just went up again..... The price per Kilowatt > hour of wind generated electricity is about the same as for coal fired. > However, there are some significant problems with maintaining the turbines > and storing the power for when there is no wind. From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 6 19:36:37 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 01:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <4DC49B41.6070204@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <1187705679.290407.1304732197462.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Last year, one of the wind turbines caught fire.. Very spectacular... especially when it collapsed! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJNoSHOV8" Oil and nuclear can be dangerous, but so can wind turbines. I've seen videos of them coming apart while in operation. And then there is the possibility of falling off of the, snakebite, etc. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri May 6 19:53:59 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 01:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <885452C2-E958-459F-B29A-62DF2436A5B1@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1045189433.1078047.1304733239495.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Frankie, You are takingB two cars to show not to sell them are you? Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 11:29:36 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle info Yeah this is my 23rd year going. Always went with my dad. Gonna be sad but I will meet up sat afternoon. I am going to be taking at least one of dads cars if not both. Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Actually even though it did rain most every Carlisle weekend there were some > dry mornings and afternoons. Being Frank always drove a Spridget to the > event he always was wet. I think he mentioned one weekend in all that he > attended that was completely dry. > Lin > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Let's hope there is reasonable weather >> >> Are you implying that the bad weather all these years was Frank's fault? >> ;-) >> David L >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From clarici at verizon.net Fri May 6 20:12:39 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 22:12:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <1045189433.1078047.1304733239495.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1045189433.1078047.1304733239495.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <90073FAE-B4A8-4207-AE37-BA679614F0CF@verizon.net> No I am going to show them. My good friends are comming and driving one out. I am not selling any of his cars. Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2011, at 9:53 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Frankie, > > You are taking two cars to show not to sell them are you? > > Ryan > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" > To: "Linda Grunthaner" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 11:29:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle info > > Yeah this is my 23rd year going. Always went with my dad. Gonna be sad but I > will meet up sat afternoon. I am going to be taking at least one of dads cars > if not both. > > Frankie > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 6, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > Actually even though it did rain most every Carlisle weekend there were > some > > dry mornings and afternoons. Being Frank always drove a Spridget to the > > event he always was wet. I think he mentioned one weekend in all that he > > attended that was completely dry. > > Lin > > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> Let's hope there is reasonable weather > >> > >> Are you implying that the bad weather all these years was Frank's fault? > >> ;-) > >> David L > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri May 6 20:18:35 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:18:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A 200mph Jaguar/Williams/Tata for the streets Message-ID: <01e401cc0c5d$125935f0$370ba1d0$@net> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/jaguar/8497795/200mph- Jaguar-hybrid-supercar-confirmed.html From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri May 6 20:23:08 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 02:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <90073FAE-B4A8-4207-AE37-BA679614F0CF@verizon.net> Message-ID: <872116370.1078915.1304734988555.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Good. Just remember not to let Frankie V learn to drive in the bugeye.B Let him strip the clutch in something less valuable......likes dads VW : ) Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" To: "ryan kubanoff" Cc: "Spridgets" , "Linda Grunthaner" Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 10:12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle info No I am going to show them. My good friends are comming and driving one out. I am not selling any of his cars.B Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2011, at 9:53 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: Frankie, You are takingB two cars to show not to sell them are you? Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" < clarici at verizon.net > To: "Linda Grunthaner" < grunthaner at gmail.com > Cc: "Spridgets" < spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 11:29:36 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle info Yeah this is my 23rd year going. Always went with my dad. Gonna be sad but I will meet up sat afternoon. I am going to be taking at least one of dads cars if not both. Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner < grunthaner at gmail.com > wrote: > Actually even though it did rain most every Carlisle weekend there were some > dry mornings and afternoons. Being Frank always drove a Spridget to the > event he always was wet. I think he mentioned one weekend in all that he > attended that was completely dry. > Lin > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM, David Lieb < 72spridget at gmail.com > wrote: > >>> Let's hope there is reasonable weather >> >> Are you implying that the bad weather all these years was Frank's fault? >> ;-) >> David L >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation B $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 6 20:46:14 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <90073FAE-B4A8-4207-AE37-BA679614F0CF@verizon.net> References: <1045189433.1078047.1304733239495.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <90073FAE-B4A8-4207-AE37-BA679614F0CF@verizon.net> Message-ID: <285690.85147.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thumbs-Up jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Frankie Clarici 4th Iam not selling any of his cars. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri May 6 21:25:17 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 20:25:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A 200mph Jaguar/Williams/Tata for the streets Message-ID: <01f101cc0c66$63a22530$2ae66f90$@net> http://tinyurl.com/3snsa4q http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/jaguar/8497795/200mph- Jaguar-hybrid-supercar-confirmed.html From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri May 6 21:28:30 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:28:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. References: Message-ID: Should not be a prob with a Spridget, there are shops in every corner of the US where they are rebuild, restored, repaired. Just ask when you are ready. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Mark" ; Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HE BACKED INTO MY CAR. > Years ago, an old guy wiped out three parked cars with his Buick. My > Studebaker was in the middle of the sandwich. Of course, his insurance > company began with the argument that my car was too old to be worth more > than $200, but that was pretty easy to get around, since the cars were all > parked when he hit them, and I just kept insisting that I wanted it put > back > the way it was regardless of what they thought it was worth. Where I ran > into trouble was getting an estimate for having it fixed. I couldn't find > a > body shop that would touch it. His insurance ended up paying for the only > shop that work on it, and they did a really crappy job. I brought them a > NOS > quarter panel and rear apron, and the just bondoed the original panels > anyway. I ended up getting caught between his insurance company and a > cut-throat body shop. The Studebaker never really recovered and I ended up > selling it for $100 because the body work was so bad. I think my point is > that getting an estimate will be the hardest part. They won't just pay you > what you tell them it's going to cost to fix it. You'll have to get a body > shop involved, and most of them don't get it when it comes to collector > cars. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1325 / Virus Database: 1500/3620 - Release Date: 05/06/11 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri May 6 22:39:00 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 00:39:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A 200mph Jaguar/Williams/Tata for the streets In-Reply-To: <01f101cc0c66$63a22530$2ae66f90$@net> References: <01f101cc0c66$63a22530$2ae66f90$@net> Message-ID: <6C68D45BBA534BE59A6B931FC1C496ED@blackbox2> Yea...great. Lets all go out tomorrow and get one. Oh wait..limited production? A Gazzilion bucks? Well thanks Jaguar..or Tata..or who ever. Yea, Thanks for licking this "high cost of gasoline" problem. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:25 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] A 200mph Jaguar/Williams/Tata for the streets http://tinyurl.com/3snsa4q From rdgard at cox.net Fri May 6 23:59:18 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:59:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Backed into me. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, Even tho he sounded like an A** Hole, he is saying lets talk. I think be fair, get three of the highest estimates you can and present him with the highest one and have it fixed right. You should not try and make money on the deal, as well as you should not get screwed. I can understand him not wanting to put it on his record etc. It is always better between neighbors and friends to be informal and still get it done right. It is not in your best interests to screw him as it is smart for him not to try and screw you. Don't just take a check, get a good estimate from a good , high end shop and go with that. Cheers, , bob Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com > He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: > > "Come see me before. Let's talk." > > Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? > > Rick B. ********************************** From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 7 00:37:00 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 01:37:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Backed into me. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: God bless you Robert Gardner. You are a really trusting man. I don't advocate screwing the guy either, but I've learned CYA from the hard knocks of life. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Bob Gardner wrote: > Rick, > > Even tho he sounded like an A** Hole, he is saying lets talk. I think be > fair, get three of the highest estimates you can and present him with the > highest one and have it fixed right. You should not try and make money on > the deal, as well as you should not get screwed. I can understand him not > wanting to put it on his record etc. It is always better between neighbors > and friends to be informal and still get it done right. > > It is not in your best interests to screw him as it is smart for him not to > try and screw you. > > Don't just take a check, get a good estimate from a good , high end shop > and > go with that. > > Cheers, > , > bob > > Robert D. Gardner > > Gardner Productions LLC > Film and Video Production since 1978 > 619-460-1000 > www.gardnerproductions.com > > > > He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: > > > > "Come see me before. Let's talk." > > > > Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? > > > > Rick B. > ********************************** > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Sat May 7 05:01:20 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 04:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> Message-ID: <735058.42936.qm@web112703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> mary anne & i will be there too! with the central penn saab club. driving out friday after work , read that as "after i get out of my school bus". my race trailer with the oarnge '60 saab in it is being towed out to carlisle wednesday night. we will be driving out in the "sorta blue" '67 saab. since my bugeye is not running , that is not an option or we'd drive that out friday evening. chuck For anyone headed to Carlisle this year, I will have 2 spots and welcome anyone stopping by and spending a few minutes In years past there has been an effort to gather for lunch at noontime on Saturday. Not sure if that is the case again this year but thought Ibd toss that out there If anyone has a wishlist especially something large and pricey to ship, If I can help contact me offlist Ibll be bringing down a hardtop,Fiberglass nose and assorted goodies I am at C42/43 ________________________________ From: alan To: list Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 9:38:02 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 7 05:23:15 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 04:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] B&D Workmate a Lotus Design? Message-ID: <232462.90387.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Who knew? The designer of the Lotus Elan also designed the Black and Decker Workmate: http://tinyurl.com/3dtxzrw Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From kentmclean at comcast.net Sat May 7 06:09:29 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 08:09:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC53679.20404@comcast.net> BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > Oil and nuclear can be dangerous, but so can wind turbines. The new industrial complex I work at in upstate NY has an educational facility that just put in 2 small wind turbines. Over this bad, snowy winter, new signs went up warning you to watch for ice falling from the turbine blades. Am I supposed to look up to watch for the ice, or keep my eyes on the road? Do they think these things through? Or do they just wine & dine the politicians to buy in, so the pols can brag about how they are pro environment. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 7 08:07:51 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 07:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A 200mph Jaguar/Williams/Tata for the streets In-Reply-To: <01f101cc0c66$63a22530$2ae66f90$@net> Message-ID: <911723.38144.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Is this where the phrase "Bodacious Tatas" came from? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 5/6/11, Robert Evans wrote: From: Robert Evans Subject: [Spridgets] A 200mph Jaguar/Williams/Tata for the streets To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 11:25 PM http://tinyurl.com/3snsa4q http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/jaguar/8497795/200mph- Jaguar-hybrid-supercar-confirmed.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 7 08:27:22 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 09:27:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <4DC53679.20404@comcast.net> References: <4DC53679.20404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DC556CA.2010104@justbrits.com> << Am I supposed to look up to watch for the ice, >> Kent, at least you've "graduated" to driving !! Think of the poor schumks that WALK in downtown Chicago !! I'm guessing, but just this past winter, the 'signs' appeared FOUR times !! Worse than "walking whilst chewing gum." LMAO ! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat May 7 09:21:43 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 08:21:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <4DC53679.20404@comcast.net> Message-ID: Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sat May 7 09:34:51 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 11:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I deal with this stuff for our clients. You can't just give him a figure. You need an estimate. Go to the best classic car resto shop you can find and get them to write an estimate. It should be free. Then present it. But do it quickly. There may be a limit on how long you have to put a claim in to your insurance. If he wants to keep this off his insurance record, he will write the check to you. He may possibly write the check to the shop, but you can still get the work done. Getting greedy about it will only come back to haunt you. IMO, he may even be a better neighbor if you keep him from putting in a claim and jacking up his premiums. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > He responded to my request for insurance info (by email) and said: > > "Come see me before. Let's talk." > > Just wants to write a check and be done most likely, wonder how much? > > Rick B. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat May 7 09:51:05 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 10:51:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As opposed to oil derricks. -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:21 AM To: Kent McLean ; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat May 7 09:56:18 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 08:56:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door neighbor backed into my Midget Message-ID: Well here's the scoop after talking to the neighbor. He has a close friend who owns a body and paint shop where they paint cars. Neighbor also owns the building the shop guy leases. (WTH doesn't this guy own?) He gave me the shop owners home phone number and said he already called him and the guy is ready to come out to my place this weekend and take a look at the car. Here's what I'd like to get when this is finished. I'd like to bolt on a pair of earlier fenders, I already have the turn indicators for the early car and this has been my long term plan anyway. I have 4 early fenders in the back yard, don't know if any of them make a matching pair though. Is it that hard to take fenders off a 1500 car and replace them with an early pair? Then I'd like to have the whole car painted by the paint shop guy. Don't think one corner of damage is really worth the whole car painted but that would be nice. However if I take the body work out of the equation then it may be feasible to ask for the whole respray. I will strip the car of all bright bits, I will sand down and fill any small dings, I will strip out the interior and loosen the windscreen so it will come off easily. They just have to put it in their shop, pull the windshield, maybe block it a bit & clean it again then spray it. Well that's what I will propose anyway. As discussed here and elsewhere paint is expensive and hard to do. Having a shop completely set up to do it makes it a lot easier. Rick Bastedo On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > I agree, Rick...... get as much outta of it as you can and cherry out > Frankie! > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bill Masquelier > *To:* rick bastedo ; spridget list < > spridgets at autox.team.net> > *Sent:* Fri, May 6, 2011 6:59:43 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget > > Start at 2k and go from there! > BillM From pfeilmat at gmail.com Sat May 7 10:12:16 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 09:12:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] B&D Workmate a Lotus Design? In-Reply-To: <232462.90387.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <232462.90387.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1D1AC893-60E1-4C63-995D-0CA0A4F3E8B7@gmail.com> And to think I just inherited my grandfathers work mate yesterday.... Matt P Sent from my iPod On May 7, 2011, at 4:23 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > Who knew? The designer of the Lotus Elan also designed the Black and Decker > Workmate: http://tinyurl.com/3dtxzrw > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Sat May 7 10:41:35 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 09:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] B&D Workmate a Lotus Design? In-Reply-To: <232462.90387.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <232462.90387.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <352222.83797.qm@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> that explains why my workmate leaks oil..... chuck ________________________________ From: HealeyRick To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 7:23:15 AM Subject: [Spridgets] B&D Workmate a Lotus Design? Who knew? The designer of the Lotus Elan also designed the Black and Decker Workmate: http://tinyurl.com/3dtxzrw From jfishbein at snet.net Sat May 7 11:02:18 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 10:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] B&D Workmate a Lotus Design? In-Reply-To: <232462.90387.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <232462.90387.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <619974.71906.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> "The Workbench Book" by Scott Landis has an interesting chapter on Rick Hickman and his creation. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: HealeyRick To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 7:23:15 AM Subject: [Spridgets] B&D Workmate a Lotus Design? Who knew? The designer of the Lotus Elan also designed the Black and Decker Workmate: http://tinyurl.com/3dtxzrw Rick From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 7 11:04:43 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 12:04:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And solar farms And nuclear power station evaporator towers And natural gas rigs And hydrogen plants And ethanol plants And refineries..... Cheers!! The ever cheerful, Jim On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > As opposed to oil derricks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Billy Zoom > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:21 AM > To: Kent McLean ; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O > > Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From stevenm at optonline.net Sat May 7 11:25:57 2011 From: stevenm at optonline.net (stevenm at optonline.net) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:25:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Spridgets] Next door neighbor backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, Here's a nice how-to page for replacing your rubber bumpers with chrome... http://npmccabe.tripod.com/mgbumpers.htm Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Bastedo Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011 12:25 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next door neighbor backed into my Midget To: Edward Perez , SPRIDGETS > Well here's the scoop after talking to the neighbor. > He has a close friend who owns a body and paint shop where they > paint cars. > Neighbor also owns the building the shop guy leases. (WTH > doesn't this guy > own?) > He gave me the shop owners home phone number and said he already > called him > and the guy is ready to come out to my place this weekend and > take a look at > the car. > > Here's what I'd like to get when this is finished. > I'd like to bolt on a pair of earlier fenders, I already have > the turn > indicators for the early car and this has been my long term plan > anyway.I have 4 early fenders in the back yard, don't know if > any of them make a > matching pair though. > Is it that hard to take fenders off a 1500 car and replace them > with an > early pair? > > Then I'd like to have the whole car painted by the paint shop guy. > Don't think one corner of damage is really worth the whole car > painted but > that would be nice. > However if I take the body work out of the equation then it may > be feasible > to ask for the whole respray. > I will strip the car of all bright bits, I will sand down and > fill any small > dings, I will strip out the interior and loosen the windscreen > so it will > come off easily. > They just have to put it in their shop, pull the windshield, > maybe block it > a bit & clean it again then spray it. > > Well that's what I will propose anyway. > As discussed here and elsewhere paint is expensive and hard to do. > Having a shop completely set up to do it makes it a lot easier. > > Rick Bastedo > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Edward Perez > wrote: > > I agree, Rick...... get as much outta of it as you can and > cherry out > > Frankie! > > > > Edward Perez > > Summerville, SC > > 78 Midget (1275) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Bill Masquelier > > *To:* rick bastedo ; spridget list < > > spridgets at autox.team.net> > > *Sent:* Fri, May 6, 2011 6:59:43 PM > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget > > > > Start at 2k and go from there! > > BillM > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stevenm at optonline.net From clarici at verizon.net Sat May 7 11:48:51 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:48:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale In-Reply-To: References: <59FB3567-13F9-47ED-99E6-86E52A3BEBDA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001cc0cdf$070b6790$152236b0$@net> This car sold today. Thanks Frankie From: Kevin Valentine [mailto:kevinv1275 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:00 PM To: Spridgets Cc: Frank Clarici Subject: Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale Hey All, I just heard from Frankie Clarici. He wants to sell the Gold Midget Frank Sr recently finished; Frankie's email to me; Can you ask the list about if anyone wants to buy my dads last project. The gold mg. It runs great I think the motor was a factory rebuilt. Everything is new. My dad was asking $6800. Thanks Frankie Please contact Frankie at his email address clarici at verizon.net if you are interested in this car. Kevin Valentine Tuscarora, Pa From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sat May 7 12:45:27 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 18:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale In-Reply-To: <000001cc0cdf$070b6790$152236b0$@net> Message-ID: <782917636.15538.1304793927352.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Do we know the buyer? Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 1:48:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale This car sold today. B Thanks Frankie B From: Kevin Valentine [mailto:kevinv1275 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:00 PM To: Spridgets Cc: Frank Clarici Subject: Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale B Hey All, B I just heard from Frankie Clarici. B He wants to sell the Gold Midget Frank Sr recently finished; B Frankie's email to me; B Can you ask the list about if anyone wants to buy my dads last project. The gold mg. It runs great I think the motor was a factory rebuilt. Everything is new. My dad was asking $6800. B Thanks Frankie B B Please contact Frankie at his email address B B clarici at verizon.net B if you are interested in this car. B Kevin Valentine Tuscarora, Pa Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From clarici at verizon.net Sat May 7 13:10:44 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 15:10:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale In-Reply-To: <782917636.15538.1304793927352.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <782917636.15538.1304793927352.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I am going to set the buyer up on the list. He is a good guy. I didn't have any real attachment to this car. Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2011, at 2:45 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Do we know the buyer? > > Ryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 1:48:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale > > This car sold today. > > > > Thanks > > Frankie > > > > From: Kevin Valentine [mailto:kevinv1275 at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:00 PM > To: Spridgets > Cc: Frank Clarici > Subject: Resend - Franks Last Project For Sale > > > > Hey All, > > > > I just heard from Frankie Clarici. He wants to sell the Gold Midget Frank > Sr recently finished; > > > > Frankie's email to me; > > > > Can you ask the list about if anyone wants to buy my dads last project. The > gold mg. It runs great I think the motor was a factory rebuilt. Everything > is new. My dad was asking $6800. > > > > Thanks > > Frankie > > > > > > Please contact Frankie at his email address > clarici at verizon.net if you are interested in this car. > > > > Kevin Valentine > > Tuscarora, Pa > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From rdgard at cox.net Sat May 7 15:16:34 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 14:16:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] He backed into my car. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <630E4E467C21410A96EC3BE67721886F@OfficePC> Rick, Here is my big idea. You want something done which is more than just fixing the dent. He wants to pay as little as possible and keep it off of his record. And he has a way to get the work done at a discount to him. Not in your best interest unless you get more for less. So, I suggest you get three high end estimates for the work and then show him the highest one. Say that is our base line, I want you go get a good deal and I want a good deal also. So, if your body shop can do the extra work and paint the whole car after you do most of the prep, for less than the high end estimate, you would be happy with that, as you get some extra and a full paint job and he probably has to pay less than your high ball estimate. Bingo, everyone wins, and you keep a happy neighbor. Cheers, Bob in San Diego Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com Well here's the scoop after talking to the neighbor. He has a close friend who owns a body and paint shop where they paint cars. Neighbor also owns the building the shop guy leases. (WTH doesn't this guy own?) He gave me the shop owners home phone number and said he already called him and the guy is ready to come out to my place this weekend and take a look at the car. Here's what I'd like to get when this is finished. I'd like to bolt on a pair of earlier fenders, I already have the turn indicators for the early car and this has been my long term plan anyway. I have 4 early fenders in the back yard, don't know if any of them make a matching pair though. Is it that hard to take fenders off a 1500 car and replace them with an early pair? Then I'd like to have the whole car painted by the paint shop guy. Don't think one corner of damage is really worth the whole car painted but that would be nice. However if I take the body work out of the equation then it may be feasible to ask for the whole respray. I will strip the car of all bright bits, I will sand down and fill any small dings, I will strip out the interior and loosen the windscreen so it will come off easily. They just have to put it in their shop, pull the windshield, maybe block it a bit & clean it again then spray it. Well that's what I will propose anyway. As discussed here and elsewhere paint is expensive and hard to do. Having a shop completely set up to do it makes it a lot easier. Rick Bastedo ************************************** From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat May 7 16:07:18 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 22:07:18 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O Message-ID: The best way to "make" new energy is to conserve it. If everyone switches to higher efficiency cars it will make a difference. Also, switching the long haul trucks to CNG will help. Oil is still relatively cheap but can only go up in price as it get scarcer. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Dave KK7SS Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O Sent: May 6, 2011 9:36 PM Last year, one of the wind turbines caught fire.. Very spectacular... especially when it collapsed! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJNoSHOV8" Oil and nuclear can be dangerous, but so can wind turbines. I've seen videos of them coming apart while in operation. And then there is the possibility of falling off of the, snakebite, etc. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat May 7 17:52:29 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 23:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <966697163-1304806039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1921709584-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <1293117088.297471.1304812349525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> WHat's wrong with fuel from Coal?? Even the oil producing countirs of Iran and Nigeria are using the SASOL process, and maybe soon the Chinese... So why aren't we?? Quote: Sasol Ltd. is a South African company involved in mining, energy, chemicals and synfuels. In particular, they produce petrol and diesel profitably from coal and natural gas using Fischer-Tropsch process. (notice the word 'profitably' --- dmg) The company has factories at Sasolburg and Secunda (Secunda CTL) and has taken a stake in projects under construction in Qatar (Oryx GTL), Iran (Arya Polymers) and Nigeria (Escravos GTL). Sasol senior officials are also from time to time involved in senior level negotiations with their China counterparts with the view on establishing a chemical plant in China, being the fastest growing economy in the world. Unquote: Google SASOL. I've used their auto gas and South African Airways uses their Avgas. I've been to their Sasolburg plant and it was non-polluting!! Must be "NIHS" -- the "Not Invented Here Syndrome" !! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From bkitterer at me.com Sat May 7 18:07:00 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:07:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <968F6B13-2DD4-415B-8B17-364E76C46389@me.com> But oil derricks go away (or at least can) and just leave the pumping arms - what ever they are called. Windmills visually blight the country side for miles and miles and miles. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On May 7, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > As opposed to oil derricks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Billy Zoom > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:21 AM > To: Kent McLean ; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O > > Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From bkitterer at me.com Sat May 7 18:12:54 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:12:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91CBB533-EC25-4305-BCC5-B721029A5CD4@me.com> The windmills operate depending on how much government (tax) money they are getting. At least in the first years of windmills here in CA the farms went up like crazy, then about 18 months later most of them were standing still. The reason, with out tax money they could not make enough money to pay a dividend. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On May 6, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> So you don't have wind farms? > > I drove through a wind farm in CA a month ago. Very few of the blades were turning. I have been through there maybe 5 times in the last 10 years, and have never seen more than a few turning. > > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat May 7 18:57:21 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 20:57:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <91CBB533-EC25-4305-BCC5-B721029A5CD4@me.com> References: <91CBB533-EC25-4305-BCC5-B721029A5CD4@me.com> Message-ID: The problem with most of the economic analysis' surrounding energy use is the fact that they do not take into account all the costs. What is the cost of "ruined scenery" from wind mills. How much will it cost to store spent nuclear fuel for 250,000 years (no one knows), What should be the charge for emissions from coal, oil and gas plants. What about the cost to salmon from the hydro dams. Depending what numbers you like (or make up) you can make anything look good or bad. I took advantage of the rebates and added solar panels to my house. Initially I thought no why would this make sense, but after the rebates from LIPA and state and federal tax credits, the system will pay for itself in 6 years. It also helps (hurts) that we have very expensive electricity out in Long Island. I can not understand the windmills not turning, once the capital investment is made the cost of maintenance should not be too high. Steve On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > The windmills operate depending on how much government (tax) money they are > getting. At least in the first years of windmills here in CA the farms went > up like crazy, then about 18 months later most of them were standing still. > The reason, with out tax money they could not make enough money to pay a > dividend. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > > On May 6, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > >> So you don't have wind farms? > > > > I drove through a wind farm in CA a month ago. Very few of the blades > were turning. I have been through there maybe 5 times in the last 10 years, > and have never seen more than a few turning. > > > > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat May 7 19:33:08 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:33:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: <91CBB533-EC25-4305-BCC5-B721029A5CD4@me.com> Message-ID: <9c4a79$c40nrd@email.mtu.edu> > but after the rebates from LIPA and state and federal tax credits, All us listers are happy to help you with your utility bills. Just send us the bill - (I guess you already did) LOL Just kidding you Steve Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat May 7 20:30:22 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 22:30:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <1293117088.297471.1304812349525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <966697163-1304806039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1921709584-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <1293117088.297471.1304812349525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1BC98285DA5845B9AE22035E624A31C8@blackbox2> I was reading up on liquid fuel from coal the other day. The problem is that nobody wants to invest into the plants because the price of oil is so volatile. If it drops below $40 dollars a barrel then gas from coal is not viable. Clearly the current high price of oil is total BS otherwise we would would see these plants opening up all over the place. If I were president, I would announce to the nation (and the world) that the US is embarking on a massive liquid fuel from coal program and that we are going to build these plants across. But it would be a total disinformation campaign, we would build these "fake" plants, with real construction equipment, make work jobs, the whole deal. When they were completed I would have real tankers driving into them and pretending to fill up. I'd have lots of PR. You know, local mayors shaking hands with the plant managers etc... These would all be ultra secured facilities, under the guise of homeland security, but actually to protect the secret that they are actually fake. I'll bet that if we did this then suddenly you would see the world oil price quickly drop to about $35 a barrel. When the price drops (and I'm still pres) then I would announce to the world that despite the non-profitability of the liquid fuel from coal program, the US would continue to subsidize the operation to ensure a long term stable price in liquid fuels. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:52 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O WHat's wrong with fuel from Coal?? Even the oil producing countirs of Iran and Nigeria are using the SASOL process, and maybe soon the Chinese... So why aren't we?? Quote: Sasol Ltd. is a South African company involved in mining, energy, chemicals and synfuels. In particular, they produce petrol and diesel profitably from coal and natural gas using Fischer-Tropsch process. (notice the word 'profitably' --- dmg) The company has factories at Sasolburg and Secunda (Secunda CTL) and has taken a stake in projects under construction in Qatar (Oryx GTL), Iran (Arya Polymers) and Nigeria (Escravos GTL). Sasol senior officials are also from time to time involved in senior level negotiations with their China counterparts with the view on establishing a chemical plant in China, being the fastest growing economy in the world. Unquote: Google SASOL. I've used their auto gas and South African Airways uses their Avgas. I've been to their Sasolburg plant and it was non-polluting!! Must be "NIHS" -- the "Not Invented Here Syndrome" !! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Sat May 7 21:16:16 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 22:16:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <1BC98285DA5845B9AE22035E624A31C8@blackbox2> References: <966697163-1304806039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1921709584-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <1293117088.297471.1304812349525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1BC98285DA5845B9AE22035E624A31C8@blackbox2> Message-ID: Nice idea but we would still be importing the same amount of oil. The oil price is based on supply and demand (or perceived) so would not change much. It might drop initially at the idea of less demand but it would soon rebound when it did not actually happen. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:30 PM To: 'spridgets_autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O I was reading up on liquid fuel from coal the other day. The problem is that nobody wants to invest into the plants because the price of oil is so volatile. If it drops below $40 dollars a barrel then gas from coal is not viable. Clearly the current high price of oil is total BS otherwise we would would see these plants opening up all over the place. If I were president, I would announce to the nation (and the world) that the US is embarking on a massive liquid fuel from coal program and that we are going to build these plants across. But it would be a total disinformation campaign, we would build these "fake" plants, with real construction equipment, make work jobs, the whole deal. When they were completed I would have real tankers driving into them and pretending to fill up. I'd have lots of PR. You know, local mayors shaking hands with the plant managers etc... These would all be ultra secured facilities, under the guise of homeland security, but actually to protect the secret that they are actually fake. I'll bet that if we did this then suddenly you would see the world oil price quickly drop to about $35 a barrel. When the price drops (and I'm still pres) then I would announce to the world that despite the non-profitability of the liquid fuel from coal program, the US would continue to subsidize the operation to ensure a long term stable price in liquid fuels. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:52 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O WHat's wrong with fuel from Coal?? Even the oil producing countirs of Iran and Nigeria are using the SASOL process, and maybe soon the Chinese... So why aren't we?? Quote: Sasol Ltd. is a South African company involved in mining, energy, chemicals and synfuels. In particular, they produce petrol and diesel profitably from coal and natural gas using Fischer-Tropsch process. (notice the word 'profitably' --- dmg) The company has factories at Sasolburg and Secunda (Secunda CTL) and has taken a stake in projects under construction in Qatar (Oryx GTL), Iran (Arya Polymers) and Nigeria (Escravos GTL). Sasol senior officials are also from time to time involved in senior level negotiations with their China counterparts with the view on establishing a chemical plant in China, being the fastest growing economy in the world. Unquote: Google SASOL. I've used their auto gas and South African Airways uses their Avgas. I've been to their Sasolburg plant and it was non-polluting!! Must be "NIHS" -- the "Not Invented Here Syndrome" !! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pondhopautomation at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 7 23:25:02 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 00:25:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <968F6B13-2DD4-415B-8B17-364E76C46389@me.com> References: <968F6B13-2DD4-415B-8B17-364E76C46389@me.com> Message-ID: Pump Jacks. And they eventually have to be removed. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > But oil derricks go away (or at least can) and just leave the pumping arms > - what ever they are called. Windmills visually blight the country side for > miles and miles and miles. > > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > > On May 7, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > As opposed to oil derricks. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Billy Zoom > > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:21 AM > > To: Kent McLean ; spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O > > > > Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 7 23:27:50 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 00:27:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: References: <91CBB533-EC25-4305-BCC5-B721029A5CD4@me.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > but after the rebates from > LIPA and state and federal tax credits, > So that's where my taxes went! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From ahmjsprite at yahoo.com Sun May 8 00:35:34 2011 From: ahmjsprite at yahoo.com (Michael Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 23:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America In-Reply-To: <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> References: <20110504145716.OHS04.9066.root@cdptpa-web16-z01> <45791591-E4DE-4AFA-B1B4-FF4E51939FBE@att.net> Message-ID: <726991.99668.qm@web114608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> As a professional mechanic, my toolbox is filled with Mac, Matco, Snap-on and Craftsman tools. But my favorite combination wrenches are Bonney brand - don't think they are still available. My Bonney wrenches have a feel and balance that are unmatched. Take it from someone who uses them 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Mike ________________________________ From: Mike MacLean To: "" Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 11:45:58 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking of Frank--Made in America Yeah, well they won't replace all their hand tools for free. I had a Sears torque wrench just fall apart at the head. I could have reassembled it myself, but I thought they would just replace it for free because it was a hand tool and it said Sears on it. The guy in the tool dept told me to go to the Sears Outlet store across the street and they would take care of me. The outlet store repairs Sears products as well as sells the at reduced prices. They told me they would repair it for $60. He'll, a new one was $68! I still have not replaced it 4 years later. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2011, at 7:57, wrote: > I have not had to test their warranty for 5 years or more but I did have them replace a ratchet for me at that time and they did it without question. I have heard rumors that they will not honor the warranty if you are using the tools as a professional mechanic but I don't know if that is true or not. > > The type of tools that I buy from Sears are the ones that in my use I would not expect to ever fail under normal use. If they were faulty I would know it right away and take them back for replacement. > > >> BJNoSHOV8 wrote: "I picked up various Sears sets on sale...." >> >> Do Craftsman tools still come with a lifetime guarantee? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ahmjsprite at yahoo.com From edwd at ti.com Sun May 8 00:59:35 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 01:59:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) Message-ID: I have to say, and please understand that this is merely an opinion, that solar collection appeals to me the most. I have been duly impressed with Germany's intensive push to solar energy projects. They tastefully, again my opinion, line their motor ways with collectors and even lease farmer's fields for establishing collector farms. Germany is cloudy and cold for goodness sakes! They are also pursuing production improvements coupled with ongoing research and development efforts to bring costs down and efficiency up, and have made great strides with governmental assistance and support. Very forward thinking I believe. I can only imagine how much sunlight energy we could get here in good 'ol Texas! (We have an average of 300 sunny days a year.) It would of course only be supplementary as the sun doesn't shine 24 hours a day, but I can't help but believe that office buildings, businesses and the like could benefit from this approach. I sure do like the one on my gate opener. In my simplistic mind I say to myself, and others who enjoy conversation, 'no matter how much of the sun's energy we manage to collect, we won't deplete it anytime soon'. As I said, I'm rather simple minded, but of all possible sources of which I know, solar really does appeal to me the most. There, I've said it, and I sincerely hope that I didn't raise any hackles, nor did I mean to disparage anyone who may be employed or otherwise interested or invested in another energy field. Ed Dallas, Tx From billgilroy at live.com Sun May 8 04:03:43 2011 From: billgilroy at live.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 03:03:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: <375370.46049.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <375370.46049.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And like it or not Rick has to live next to the guy. -g -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 12:11 PM To: SPRIDGETS Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget Rick has every right to be upset. Let me repeat that. Rick has every right to be upset. But unless the owner doesn't have insurance, or denies this happened, I don't see the problem here. And the other party can only be "sued" for the cost of repairs and loss of use while it's in the shop. Rick does have the option of putting in a claim under his collision and letting them subrogate against the other party and when successful his deductible would be refunded to him. Years ago, an idiot in front of me at a red light, backed-up into my very nice 72 Midget. He actually said almost the same thing the guy said to Rick: "I couldn't see you behind me." His insurance completely paid for all of the damages. I seem to remember them paying for two new fenders and a new valance on the car as well. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Jack Laird Never get mad, get even. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billgilroy at live.com From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sun May 8 07:41:54 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 09:41:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next door neighbor backed into my Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, do you know anything about the credentials of the body shop? You should ask for references and call some of them before you turn your valuable classic over to a body shop. Do they have any experience with Brit cars? If not, they may muck up the job. At the very least, you need to go to the shop and have a look around. Is it clean? Do you see how they do things? What kind of cars do they work on? If you are satisfied with the quality of their work, then you should talk with your neighbor about your plan for a full paint job, with you doing the grunt work. Keep in mind that all of your work will take time. If it goes on too long, you won't be able to claim the damage on your insurance. If you decide to skip insurance, make sure you get something in writing, from the neighbor and the shop. If ANY red flags come up, just put a claim in with your insurance company and let them handle it. Just my two pence, Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Well here's the scoop after talking to the neighbor. > He has a close friend who owns a body and paint shop where they paint cars. > Neighbor also owns the building the shop guy leases. (WTH doesn't this guy > own?) > He gave me the shop owners home phone number and said he already called him > and the guy is ready to come out to my place this weekend and take a look > at > the car. > > Here's what I'd like to get when this is finished. > I'd like to bolt on a pair of earlier fenders, I already have the turn > indicators for the early car and this has been my long term plan anyway. > I have 4 early fenders in the back yard, don't know if any of them make a > matching pair though. > Is it that hard to take fenders off a 1500 car and replace them with an > early pair? > > Then I'd like to have the whole car painted by the paint shop guy. > Don't think one corner of damage is really worth the whole car painted but > that would be nice. > However if I take the body work out of the equation then it may be feasible > to ask for the whole respray. > I will strip the car of all bright bits, I will sand down and fill any > small > dings, I will strip out the interior and loosen the windscreen so it will > come off easily. > They just have to put it in their shop, pull the windshield, maybe block it > a bit & clean it again then spray it. > > Well that's what I will propose anyway. > As discussed here and elsewhere paint is expensive and hard to do. > Having a shop completely set up to do it makes it a lot easier. > > Rick Bastedo > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > > > I agree, Rick...... get as much outta of it as you can and cherry out > > Frankie! > > > > Edward Perez > > Summerville, SC > > 78 Midget (1275) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Bill Masquelier > > *To:* rick bastedo ; spridget list < > > spridgets at autox.team.net> > > *Sent:* Fri, May 6, 2011 6:59:43 PM > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Next door A-hole backed into my Midget > > > > Start at 2k and go from there! > > BillM > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun May 8 07:43:12 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 09:43:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Somewhere recently, I read that there is research that could lead to a doubling of the now low efficiency of solar-electric cells. That would change the equation completely. Michael Rowe From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 8 07:57:57 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 06:57:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65B3A8365584490984E1319A06B5D8F0@spider> Advances are being made, but these promises have been around for 30+ years. Usually someone promoting his/her product. ...bill in corvallis ============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:43 AM To: Fisher, Ed; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) Somewhere recently, I read that there is research that could lead to a doubling of the now low efficiency of solar-electric cells. That would change the equation completely. Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 8 08:17:50 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 09:17:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And a chemist from MIT has now found a way to use sunshine to separate hydrogen from water, mimicking a leaf. Can you say "water shortage"? I knew you could... David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 8 08:18:14 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 09:18:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > And a chemist from MIT has now found a way to use sunshine to separate > hydrogen from water, mimicking a leaf. Can you say "water shortage"? I > knew you could... > David L And now for a link? http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/21536/ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 8 08:23:03 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:23:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) Message-ID: The cost per watt of solar has been coming down very slowly. A doubling would be a game changer. Another factor not mentioned often is that Solar panels provide the most power during peak demand periods - when everyone uses air-conditioning on hot sunny days. That is a big advantage as a supplemental energy source. Wind tends to operate on a more random basis 24/7, so for wind to be effective it needs to be stored. I do not know if it is still true, but years ago I read we have an excess of electric at night - good for some plug in cars!! Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: Fisher, Ed To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go,off-topic with y'all :) Sent: May 8, 2011 9:43 AM Somewhere recently, I read that there is research that could lead to a doubling of the now low efficiency of solar-electric cells. That would change the equation completely. Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 8 08:57:14 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 10:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O Message-ID: <9a28b.58ea1c6a.3af80949@aol.com> In a way that oil refineries and nuclear power plants aren't? In a message dated 07/05/2011 16:40:33 GMT Daylight Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 8 10:16:46 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 11:16:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All of the alternative energy sources will one day reach maturity. Until then, they simply are not as cost effective as the traditional sources. Unless, of course, government over-regulation of the traditional sources artificially inflates their cost over and above what the alternatives currently provide. And THAT, boys and girls, is what is currently happening in this country at a time when the economy can least afford it. Worst of all, it is deliberate. -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun May 8 13:12:11 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 12:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <9a28b.58ea1c6a.3af80949@aol.com> Message-ID: <741523.17363.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Oh, I don't know about "eyesore". Some of them kind of remind me of something I really like! https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HYXNPtGYWFqkm0a4ckVa4ch0G4UM70MGmcJnKsW 4R60?feat=directlink Mike MacLean --- On Sun, 5/8/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O To: billyzoom at billyzoom.com, kentmclean at comcast.net, spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 2:57 PM In a way that oil refineries and nuclear power plants aren't? In a message dated 07/05/2011 16:40:33 GMT Daylight Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 8 13:27:00 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:27:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <741523.17363.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <9a28b.58ea1c6a.3af80949@aol.com> <741523.17363.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think a proper application of color, could make them far more appealing to the eye... On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > Oh, I don't know about "eyesore". Some of them kind of remind me of > something > I really like! > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HYXNPtGYWFqkm0a4ckVa4ch0G4UM70MGmcJnKsW > 4R60?feat=directlink > > > Mike MacLean > > > > --- On Sun, 5/8/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > wrote: > > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O > To: billyzoom at billyzoom.com, kentmclean at comcast.net, > spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 2:57 PM > > In a way that oil refineries and nuclear power plants aren't? > > > In a message dated 07/05/2011 16:40:33 GMT Daylight Time, > billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: > > Wind farms are an eyesore that corrupts the landscape. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun May 8 14:33:11 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 13:33:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? Message-ID: I have two sets of early fenders I've been saving. I just went out and uncovered them to see what I've got. One set is pretty rusty, it's a matching set but the area between the headlight and hood where it makes that gentle curve has been hit hard, dented and creased. That's the drivers side of course, it's also too rusty to feel good about. The white pair isn't matching, the passenger side has the turn indicator closer to the bumper and the drivers side has the turn indicator closer to the headlight. To top it off the driver side has a rusted out area down below the bumper - the edge and a large area of metal are gone. To sum up, I have two usable passenger side fenders, a little rusty but no cancer. I have zero good drivers side fenders. If someone knows about a pair of good early fenders or one good drivers side with the indicator closer to the bumper please let me know. Not interested in new high priced replacements, just looking for a decent set of used fenders I can prep for paint. I have stuff I can trade from a MK1 Midget if desired. Rick (9 1/2 weeks till takeoff) Bastedo From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun May 8 15:03:35 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 17:03:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle info In-Reply-To: <735058.42936.qm@web112703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> <735058.42936.qm@web112703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looking forward to seeing that beautiful Orange Sabb Chuck. Deni & I will be ther on Saturday but possibly Friday night. It will be very difficult for all of us this year without Frank, but we must be strong & supportive for Frankie as it will be so very much harder for him. Lin On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:01 AM, charles christ wrote: > mary anne & i will be there too! with the central penn saab club. > driving > out friday after work , read that as "after i get out of my school > bus". > my race trailer with the oarnge '60 saab in it is being towed out to > carlisle > wednesday night. we will be driving out in the "sorta blue" '67 > saab. > > since my bugeye is not running , that is not an option or we'd drive > that out > friday evening. > > chuck > For anyone headed to Carlisle this year, > I will have 2 spots and welcome > anyone stopping by and spending a few minutes > In years past there has been an effort to gather for lunch at noontime on > Saturday. > Not sure if that is the case again this year but thought Ibd toss > that out > there > If anyone has a wishlist especially something large and pricey > to ship, If I > can help contact me offlist > Ibll be bringing down a > hardtop,Fiberglass nose and assorted goodies > I am at C42/43 > ________________________________ > > From: alan > To: list > > Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 9:38:02 AM > Subject: > [Spridgets] Carlisle info > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun May 8 15:04:48 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 17:04:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wahoo Bugeye List In-Reply-To: References: <662711.65198.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What is that a group or a magazine? Lin On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > It's light. I get the digest only. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Jay wrote: > > > I broke down last week and subscribed to the Bugeye Wahoo List. > > > > In a week I think I've received maybe 4 or 5 emails. > > > > Is there something wrong with my subscription or is traffic usually light > > over > > there? > > > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun May 8 15:26:21 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 17:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <741523.17363.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <741523.17363.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52094FBB491747C882E850133DC0F872@Home> > Oh, I don't know about "eyesore". Some of them kind of remind me of > something > I really like! So what's interesting about a cheap beginner's surfboard? Michael Rowe From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun May 8 15:57:39 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 16:57:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC711D3.7000104@tx.rr.com> My sister has solar panels on her roof. She lives outside of the city and her electric company was working with a company that sold these electric systems. The deal with the electric company is that they would only allow installation of systems that would product up to 90% of the average energy use of her home. The last time I was at her house was this past Christmas and their system was producing all of the electricity they were using. Their house is probably about 2500SF, with a roof shaped like a pyramid. The panels occupy one side of the pyramid. > I have to say, and please understand that this is merely an opinion, that solar collection appeals to me the most. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun May 8 16:00:46 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 17:00:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <20110508143910.50CD51878A5@autox.team.net> References: <20110508143910.50CD51878A5@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4DC7128E.9000106@tx.rr.com> For over 20 years commercial users have been able to get lower electric rates at night than during the day. In some of the buildings I have worked on they had large ice storage tanks underground. Using the cheaper electricity at night they would freeze the water in the underground tanks, then during they day they would use it to cool the building. > I do not know if it is still true, but years ago I read we have an excess of electric at night - good for some plug in cars!! From billgilroy at live.com Sun May 8 16:37:51 2011 From: billgilroy at live.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 15:37:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, Are you looking for one rubber bumper driver side fender or both side chrome fender? -g -----Original Message----- From: Rick Bastedo Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:33 PM To: SPRIDGETS Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? I have two sets of early fenders I've been saving. I just went out and uncovered them to see what I've got. One set is pretty rusty, it's a matching set but the area between the headlight and hood where it makes that gentle curve has been hit hard, dented and creased. That's the drivers side of course, it's also too rusty to feel good about. The white pair isn't matching, the passenger side has the turn indicator closer to the bumper and the drivers side has the turn indicator closer to the headlight. To top it off the driver side has a rusted out area down below the bumper - the edge and a large area of metal are gone. To sum up, I have two usable passenger side fenders, a little rusty but no cancer. I have zero good drivers side fenders. If someone knows about a pair of good early fenders or one good drivers side with the indicator closer to the bumper please let me know. Not interested in new high priced replacements, just looking for a decent set of used fenders I can prep for paint. I have stuff I can trade from a MK1 Midget if desired. Rick (9 1/2 weeks till takeoff) Bastedo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billgilroy at live.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun May 8 16:42:02 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 15:42:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A set of chrome bumper fenders or a driver side chrome bumper fender with the lower turn signal hole. I have two usable passenger side chrome bumper fenders that have the lower turn signal. On May 8, 2011 3:37 PM, "William M. Gilroy" wrote: > Rick, > > Are you looking for one rubber bumper driver side fender or both side chrome > fender? > > -g > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Bastedo > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:33 PM > To: SPRIDGETS > Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? > > I have two sets of early fenders I've been saving. > I just went out and uncovered them to see what I've got. > One set is pretty rusty, it's a matching set but the area between the > headlight and hood where it makes that gentle curve has been hit hard, > dented and creased. > That's the drivers side of course, it's also too rusty to feel good about. > The white pair isn't matching, the passenger side has the turn indicator > closer to the bumper and the drivers side has the turn indicator closer to > the headlight. > To top it off the driver side has a rusted out area down below the bumper - > the edge and a large area of metal are gone. > To sum up, I have two usable passenger side fenders, a little rusty but no > cancer. > I have zero good drivers side fenders. > If someone knows about a pair of good early fenders or one good drivers side > with the indicator closer to the bumper please let me know. > Not interested in new high priced replacements, just looking for a decent > set of used fenders I can prep for paint. > I have stuff I can trade from a MK1 Midget if desired. > > Rick (9 1/2 weeks till takeoff) Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billgilroy at live.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 8 17:09:51 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 18:09:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Are you looking for one rubber bumper driver side fender or both side chrome > fender? I think he is looking for a matched set of chrome fenders. If I am reading it right, he has a good late chrome RH fender (narrow bumpers, so the signal light is further from the headlight than it was on the pre-1970), but no match for the LH side. There are at least three varieties of fenders; 1500, "facelift" 1970-1974, and pre-1970. David L From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 8 17:23:58 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 23:23:58 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) Message-ID: So does anyone on the list (or want) an electric spridget? (Trying ti get on-topic) Steve ------Original Message------ From: BJNoSHOV8 Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go,off-topic with y'all :) Sent: May 8, 2011 6:00 PM For over 20 years commercial users have been able to get lower electric rates at night than during the day. In some of the buildings I have worked on they had large ice storage tanks underground. Using the cheaper electricity at night they would freeze the water in the underground tanks, then during they day they would use it to cool the building. > I do not know if it is still true, but years ago I read we have an excess of electric at night - good for some plug in cars!! _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 8 17:45:45 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 18:45:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> I have never driven an electric car, so I can't say from experience. And a part of the sensory experience of driving is listening to a nice sounding exhaust note. But something about having all of that torque way down low would be real nice. I'm guessing that a decent performing electric car would be a great autocrosser. -----Original Message----- From: an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:23 PM To: BJNoSHOV8 ; spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net ; spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) So does anyone on the list (or want) an electric spridget? (Trying ti get on-topic) Steve From nases at verizon.net Sun May 8 18:49:53 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 20:49:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Happy Mothers Day Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ysRH1Dxyw&sns=em Phil Nase home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sun May 8 18:52:48 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 19:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <20110508233823.132481878A4@autox.team.net> References: <20110508233823.132481878A4@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00da01cc0de3$6b5d5dc0$42181940$@rr.com> http://www.acterra.org/ev/ Been done already. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:24 PM To: BJNoSHOV8; spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) So does anyone on the list (or want) an electric spridget? (Trying ti get on-topic) Steve From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 8 19:12:14 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 01:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> Message-ID: <2129802402.305720.1304903534735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Google "White Zombie" A Datsun electric car that can outdrag a corvette... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" I have never driven an electric car, so I can't say from experience. And a part of the sensory experience of driving is listening to a nice sounding exhaust note. But something about having all of that torque way down low would be real nice. I'm guessing that a decent performing electric car would be a great autocrosser. -----Original Message----- So does anyone on the list (or want) an electric spridget? From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 8 19:18:41 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 01:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <00da01cc0de3$6b5d5dc0$42181940$@rr.com> Message-ID: <675581257.305774.1304903921332.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> But the downside is QUOTE: Car specs Range: 25 to 30 miles Top speed: 65 mph+ Recharge time: 6 to 8 hours Weight: 2300 lbs. UNQUOTE: Sadly, most of us couldn't get to Work and back! But his implemntation is nice.. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Seippel" http://www.acterra.org/ev/ Been done already. - Jim From refisk at chartermi.net Sun May 8 20:21:05 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 22:21:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> Message-ID: I fly RC model airplanes - both electric powered and gasoline powered (no slimers). There are electronic sound sysems available that can make your electric Piper Cub sound like the real thing. The sound of a real Cub engine is digitized and played back through speakers in the model. The engine note is sychronized to the speed of the prop. Very realistic sounding. Electric car manufacturers could do the same thing. Imagine your Chevy Volt with the digitized exhaust note of a Ferrari. :-) In fact the guvment make make the car manufacturers do something like this. One of the big complaints with electric vehicles is that pedestrians can't hear them coming as well as gas or diesel powered vehicles. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: ; "BJNoSHOV8" ; ; "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) >I have never driven an electric car, so I can't say from experience. And a > part of the sensory experience of driving is listening to a nice sounding > exhaust note............ From george.brokaw at cox.net Sun May 8 20:46:43 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:46:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> Message-ID: <00f401cc0df3$54be6680$fe3b3380$@brokaw@cox.net> You mean like this one? :) http://www.funnyville.com/funny-flash/dengdeng.html -----Original Message----- I fly RC model airplanes - both electric powered and gasoline powered (no slimers). There are electronic sound sysems available that can make your electric Piper Cub sound like the real thing. The sound of a real Cub engine is digitized and played back through speakers in the model. The engine note is sychronized to the speed of the prop. Very realistic sounding. Electric car manufacturers could do the same thing. Imagine your Chevy Volt with the digitized exhaust note of a Ferrari. :-) In fact the guvment make make the car manufacturers do something like this. One of the big complaints with electric vehicles is that pedestrians can't hear them coming as well as gas or diesel powered vehicles. Rick ----- Original Message ----- >I have never driven an electric car, so I can't say from experience. And a > part of the sensory experience of driving is listening to a nice sounding > exhaust note............ _______________________________________________ From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 8 20:52:12 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:52:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> Message-ID: > Electric car manufacturers could do the same thing. Imagine your Chevy Volt > with the digitized exhaust note of a Ferrari. :-) > > In fact the guvment make make the car manufacturers do something like this. > One of the big complaints with electric vehicles is that pedestrians can't > hear them coming as well as gas or diesel powered vehicles. Ya mean like da SoundRacerV8? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF3Gblp0Z4M David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 8 21:05:49 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 22:05:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. Message-ID: Electric vehicles are an interesting exercise but they will be an oddity for many more years before the technology is sufficiently developed. Think about the farmer who feeds you all.... Picture a guy out here on the High Plains who raises the wheat for your bread and the beef for your burger. On average he lives about 30 to 40 miles from the nearest Coop where he hauls his grain and about 60 miles from the nearest cattle auction and feed lot where he takes his beeves to be sold. He hauls a couple of 800 lb round bales a week a distance of about 50 miles to feed your burger. He hauls 20,000 lbs of wheat about 40 miles to the elevator to make your bread. He runs a large tractor about 3 days a week and during harvest, a $220,000 combine which runs about 18 hours a day for a week to cut the wheat for your dinner plate and the corn for your ethanol. There isn't an electric vehicle in the world that can even begin to touch doing all of this. Long story short, stop thinking about driving your car to work and start thinking about all the other vehicles that would also need to be electric. When you do the obvious conclusion is that we are a long way from being there yet..... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - Dodge City, KS - Wheat & Meat Country -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From refisk at chartermi.net Sun May 8 21:06:20 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 23:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <00f401cc0df3$54be6680$fe3b3380$@brokaw@cox.net> References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> <00f401cc0df3$54be6680$fe3b3380$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: That sounds like a Honda with a tomato can exhaust. This is what I mean. http://www.aerosoundrc.com/movies/Prossen%20Cub_NEW.wmv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Herder" To: "'Rick Fisk'" ; "'spridgets'" Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:46 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) > You mean like this one? > > :) > > http://www.funnyville.com/funny-flash/dengdeng.html From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun May 8 21:08:10 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:08:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel From H2O In-Reply-To: <52094FBB491747C882E850133DC0F872@Home> References: <741523.17363.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <52094FBB491747C882E850133DC0F872@Home> Message-ID: <6A67630A-914A-49B0-BFA8-5B0CFD2C7B86@att.net> The beginner. Mike Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2011, at 14:26, Michael Rowe wrote: >> Oh, I don't know about "eyesore". Some of them kind of remind me of something >> I really like! > > So what's interesting about a cheap beginner's surfboard? > > Michael Rowe From billgilroy at live.com Sun May 8 21:24:47 2011 From: billgilroy at live.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:24:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have is 3 1500 fenders. I two earlier fenders but I am working on them for my car. Sorry about that. -g From: Rick Bastedo Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 3:42 PM To: William M. Gilroy Cc: SPRIDGETS Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? A set of chrome bumper fenders or a driver side chrome bumper fender with the lower turn signal hole. I have two usable passenger side chrome bumper fenders that have the lower turn signal. On May 8, 2011 3:37 PM, "William M. Gilroy" wrote: > Rick, > > Are you looking for one rubber bumper driver side fender or both side chrome > fender? > > -g > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Bastedo > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:33 PM > To: SPRIDGETS > Subject: [Spridgets] Need early fenders - N.O.S.H.I.T. people? > > I have two sets of early fenders I've been saving. > I just went out and uncovered them to see what I've got. > One set is pretty rusty, it's a matching set but the area between the > headlight and hood where it makes that gentle curve has been hit hard, > dented and creased. > That's the drivers side of course, it's also too rusty to feel good about. > The white pair isn't matching, the passenger side has the turn indicator > closer to the bumper and the drivers side has the turn indicator closer to > the headlight. > To top it off the driver side has a rusted out area down below the bumper - > the edge and a large area of metal are gone. > To sum up, I have two usable passenger side fenders, a little rusty but no > cancer. > I have zero good drivers side fenders. > If someone knows about a pair of good early fenders or one good drivers side > with the indicator closer to the bumper please let me know. > Not interested in new high priced replacements, just looking for a decent > set of used fenders I can prep for paint. > I have stuff I can trade from a MK1 Midget if desired. > > Rick (9 1/2 weeks till takeoff) Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billgilroy at live.com From kmappley at gmail.com Sun May 8 21:25:34 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 22:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy(off topic) Message-ID: Got to comment on this since I have been interested in this since the 70's. A recent comment after Japans debical was that this country has only had one year of a meaningful energy policy--1979. I tried to get into micro hydro on existing dams back then and found out just how dirty big energy can be. I think every one should note that the R party sees nuclear as the only power for the future and the D party sees nuclear as the only way to stop global warming. Course it costs alot to get elected now days. Obama just cleared a goverment guaranteed loan to build the first nuclear power plant built in over 30 years. I bet a federal guarantee translates to LOW interest and to me that sounds just like "subsidy"!! Big energy gets plenty of them!!! But we can't help out renewable's. BTW that nuclear poer plant will be built in the southeast US but it won't have a cooling water problem like the ones in Japan cause the cooling water will be held in a big tank on top of the containment. Wonder how that will hold up to F 5 tornato's!!!! Kurt South Dakota. From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 8 21:57:40 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 22:57:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> <00f401cc0df3$54be6680$fe3b3380$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: <4DC76634.6000205@justbrits.com> << *This is what I mean.* >> There's a chap that flies a [ DAMNED NEAR REAL ] Bell UH1-B "Huey" MODEL chopper. IIRC, a chap I was chatting whilst watching him one day said it has a 28 foot rotor [ dat's HUGE, folks !!! ] blade !!!! He ALSO 'contributed' that the MACHINE [that IS what it DEMANDS to be called ] has NONE, ZERO and/or NOT ANY "sound equipment" on board [ nor on ground ]. You would SWEAR it does it you have heard a REAL Huey either in hover or very slow forward motion !! You would [ again ] SWEAR that you were 'listening to a REAL Huey that was a mile or two away whilst this one is basically 'overhead' and that is the ONLY "difference" in "sound" !!! Thing just AWESOME ! ! ! ! Me PS: And NO ONE has EVER heard "how much" !! From derf247 at gmail.com Sun May 8 22:02:33 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 23:02:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think you are a little off. Diesel electric locomotives move huge amounts of stuff daily. Electric forklifts do work daily. The technology is here now for electric vehicles to do real work. All we really need is a little advancement in batteries. Right now I'm leaning toward Diesel. For some stupid reason people in other countries have choices of Diesel vehicles that we don't get here. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I find it criminal that our government mandates things like ethanol and at the same time makes auto makers produce more fuel efficient vehicles. With Diesel vehicles getting 40-50 MPG regularly I don't see why people are so taken with current Hybrid offerings. In contrast with 1988 Honda CRX-HFs getting 50+ on gasoline with carburetors I find modern Hybrids to be lame. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun May 8 22:30:42 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 23:30:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC76DF2.6010204@tx.rr.com> I have some friends that have a very large family farming operation. They run a lot of pickups and big tractors, mostly on diesel. They have a lot of gasoline 4-wheelers that their employees use. Their biggest fuel use is for irrigation- they run large gasoline engines and diesel engines to power their pumps, but they run all of them on natural gas. (They have converted large diesel engines to run on natural gas.) I think in the future we will need different fuel/power solutions for different vehicles and different uses. We may need to make use of as many alternate fuel sources as we can get. Trucks, tractors and combines can be run on natural gas, or on some form of synthetic diesel that is probably derived from some bio source. I think some families may have a vehicle that is primarily electric, and another vehicle with an internal combustion engine for backup or longer trips. But I've got another use that might be more difficult- what about airplanes? We probably won't do those with electricity, or natural gas. They will need an easy to handle liquid fuel. Maybe a synthetic bio fuel can work for this. > Electric vehicles are an interesting exercise but they will be an oddity for > many more years before the technology is sufficiently developed. > > Think about the farmer who feeds you all.... Picture a guy out here on the > High Plains who raises the wheat for your bread and the beef for your > burger. On average he lives about 30 to 40 miles from the nearest Coop where > he hauls his grain and about 60 miles from the nearest cattle auction and > feed lot where he takes his beeves to be sold. He hauls a couple of 800 lb > round bales a week a distance of about 50 miles to feed your burger. He > hauls 20,000 lbs of wheat about 40 miles to the elevator to make your bread. > He runs a large tractor about 3 days a week and during harvest, a $220,000 > combine which runs about 18 hours a day for a week to cut the wheat for your > dinner plate and the corn for your ethanol. > > There isn't an electric vehicle in the world that can even begin to touch > doing all of this. Long story short, stop thinking about driving your car to > work and start thinking about all the other vehicles that would also need to > be electric. When you do the obvious conclusion is that we are a long way > from being there yet..... ;-) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 8 23:58:25 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 00:58:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy(off topic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kurt... Meteorologist and retired Tornado researcher here... No worries depending upon the construction of the tank. Moreover, the chances of any one point on the face of the earth being hit by an EF-5 tornado is even smaller than he 9.0 earthquake and Tsunami that hit the Japanese reactor farm. There is no such thing as being perfectly safe from mother nature. BTW, THIS Republican is all in favor of alternative energy sources...when they can become viable. Probably won't see that in my lifetime. I think you have the "Rs" pegged completely wrong. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Got to comment on this since I have been interested in this since the 70's. > A recent comment after Japans debical was that this country has only had > one > year of a meaningful energy policy--1979. I tried to get into micro hydro > on > existing dams back then and found out just how dirty big energy can be. I > think every one should note that the R party sees nuclear as the only power > for the future and the D party sees nuclear as the only way to stop global > warming. Course it costs alot to get elected now days. Obama just cleared a > goverment guaranteed loan to build the first nuclear power plant built in > over 30 years. I bet a federal guarantee translates to LOW interest and to > me that sounds just like "subsidy"!! Big energy gets plenty of them!!! But > we can't help out renewable's. BTW that nuclear poer plant will be built in > the southeast US but it won't have a cooling water problem like the ones in > Japan cause the cooling water will be held in a big tank on top of the > containment. Wonder how that will hold up to F 5 tornato's!!!! > > Kurt > > South Dakota. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 00:11:23 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 01:11:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My comments were aimed at "electric vehicles". Liquid fuel combustion engines are an entirely different matter. Bio Diesel is a viable alternative for industrial (farm) use, but to date few manufacturers are producing farm equipment with that capability. In any case, even diesel engines produce CO2 emissions that will send a Global Warming lover into manic contortions. The emission problem is the difference between your Hybrids and your Honda. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 11:02 PM, derf wrote: > I think you are a little off. > Diesel electric locomotives move huge amounts of stuff daily. > Electric forklifts do work daily. The technology is here now for > electric vehicles to do real work. > All we really need is a little advancement in batteries. > > Right now I'm leaning toward Diesel. For some stupid reason people in > other countries have choices of Diesel vehicles that we don't get > here. > Call me a conspiracy theorist but I find it criminal that our > government mandates things like ethanol and at the same time makes > auto makers produce more fuel efficient vehicles. With Diesel > vehicles getting 40-50 MPG regularly I don't see why people are so > taken with current Hybrid offerings. In contrast with 1988 Honda > CRX-HFs getting 50+ on gasoline with carburetors I find modern Hybrids > to be lame. > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grday at btinternet.com Mon May 9 00:26:10 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 07:26:10 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net><26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> Message-ID: <2F491CC758A549D284AB9D483B057671@user8634b3d69b> Lotus Cars have a very nice system where they can make a car engine sound virtually like any other and regularly have fun giving a low powered car the engine note of a V8 to journalists who think they have been given a monster to drive. The original idea was to cancel or greatly reduce engine noise using sound technology but this was an amusing offshoot, They have already produced EV (electric vehicle) sound systems and the Regulatory body of the EU are talking about having a law that says sound must be produced. However, if you had an EV would you want it making noises at you all day? Teach pedestrians to live on footpaths and if they want to use the road (except at crossing points) learn to live with injuries. One of my drawbacks to EVs is living near the top of a hill and returning home would need a good level of charge at the end of the day. I really don't think it would work too well for me with the limited range of today's EVs. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) >> Electric car manufacturers could do the same thing. Imagine your Chevy > Volt >> with the digitized exhaust note of a Ferrari. :-) >> >> In fact the guvment make make the car manufacturers do something like >> this. >> One of the big complaints with electric vehicles is that pedestrians >> can't >> hear them coming as well as gas or diesel powered vehicles. > > Ya mean like da SoundRacerV8? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF3Gblp0Z4M > David L > _______________________________________________ From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon May 9 03:28:18 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 02:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <4DC76634.6000205@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <254952.12910.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ed, You should hear the choppers with actual jet turbine engines for power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXkVGxoacpQ Mike MacLean --- On Mon, 5/9/11, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: From: Shop at " Just Brits " Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) To: "'spridgets'" Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 3:57 AM << *This is what I mean.* >> There's a chap that flies a [ DAMNED NEAR REAL ] Bell UH1-B "Huey" MODEL chopper. IIRC, a chap I was chatting whilst watching him one day said it has a 28 foot rotor [ dat's HUGE, folks !!! ] blade !!!! He ALSO 'contributed' that the MACHINE [that IS what it DEMANDS to be called ] has NONE, ZERO and/or NOT ANY "sound equipment" on board [ nor on ground ]. You would SWEAR it does it you have heard a REAL Huey either in hover or very slow forward motion !! You would [ again ] SWEAR that you were 'listening to a REAL Huey that was a mile or two away whilst this one is basically 'overhead' and that is the ONLY "difference" in "sound" !!! Thing just AWESOME ! ! ! ! Me PS: And NO ONE has EVER heard "how much" !! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 9 05:26:52 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 06:26:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: <4DC76DF2.6010204@tx.rr.com> References: <4DC76DF2.6010204@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Most small prop driven airplanes use high octane gasoline. Turbine driven airplanes use a form of fuel very similar to Diesel or Kerosene. Electric planes work on the scale model level. Again, battery evolution would help them. I'd ride in a Helium filled Zeppelin with electric motive power. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 9 06:12:39 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:12:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: What is this 'cash' thing? ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > > I was looking at some parts and their prices. > An awful lot have something like $9.95 or $49.95 or some such - which got me thinking. > Maybe we need a $9 bill and a 99cent coin! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 06:47:57 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:47:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: derf, The conspiracy is that we have a lower price for gasoline than most of the other developed countries. When gas was $2-$3 bucks a gallon we did not give a S__T about how poor the gas millage was in our cars. This was at the individual level buying big heavy cars and the government level that did not force increases in fuel economy. In Europe gas or diesel costs 1.5 to 2 times as much and European earn less on average then we do. They demand higher efficiency so they can drive around and not bankrupt their savings or economy. Regrettably the only time this gets press is when gas prices go over $4 bucks a gallon. When oil was $15 a barrel in early 2000s we should have added loads of taxes to fuel to stop everyone form wasting. Hindsight is 20/20. Steve On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:02 AM, derf wrote: > I think you are a little off. > Diesel electric locomotives move huge amounts of stuff daily. > Electric forklifts do work daily. The technology is here now for > electric vehicles to do real work. > All we really need is a little advancement in batteries. > > Right now I'm leaning toward Diesel. For some stupid reason people in > other countries have choices of Diesel vehicles that we don't get > here. > Call me a conspiracy theorist but I find it criminal that our > government mandates things like ethanol and at the same time makes > auto makers produce more fuel efficient vehicles. With Diesel > vehicles getting 40-50 MPG regularly I don't see why people are so > taken with current Hybrid offerings. In contrast with 1988 Honda > CRX-HFs getting 50+ on gasoline with carburetors I find modern Hybrids > to be lame. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon May 9 07:18:26 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:18:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve, you are saying , verbatim, what was said in the 70's other than the change in price from $ .50 to $ 2.00. It is NOT the government's job to mandate better fuel efficiency in cars/trucks/dirigibles. In Europe, a car is a luxury and EVERYTHING is closer. Shorter distances mean better use of public transportation, absurd taxes on cars making less fuel economy mean that folks only buy cars that are very small, underpowered, basic .. and I mean BASIC, transportation. You can NOT compare American and European situations. Period. Fred has a good point and other than the conspiracy part everything he says is dead on, SAAB , for example, has a nice diesel that gets 40 mpg (IIRC) with great torque that meets all safety standards over here but is NOT allowed to be sold. I owned a Honda Civic in '84 and could get 55 mpg with it on a carb. But it didn't have to be as safe. The CAFE standards instituted in the '70s are well met *IF* you remove all the safety stuff that has had to bee instituted since then. Americans do not like small cars, present company excepted of course. Safety standards do not allow small, lightweight, fuel efficient cars. Yes the Smart car comes to mind but imagine how much better the fuel mileage would be without the safety stuff, and they are not, I repeat, NOT being sold in droves. If this cycle follows the others, manufacturers will make several fuel efficient models which will sell well for a few years and then the expansion will take place making that model less efficient, larger, and more in line with what Americans really want. Just my $0.02. Lester On May 9, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: > derf, > > The conspiracy is that we have a lower price for gasoline than most of the > other developed countries. When gas was $2-$3 bucks a gallon we did not > give a S__T about how poor the gas millage was in our cars. This was at the > individual level buying big heavy cars and the government level that did not > force increases in fuel economy. > > In Europe gas or diesel costs 1.5 to 2 times as much and European earn less > on average then we do. They demand higher efficiency so they can drive > around and not bankrupt their savings or economy. > > Regrettably the only time this gets press is when gas prices go over $4 > bucks a gallon. When oil was $15 a barrel in early 2000s we should have > added loads of taxes to fuel to stop everyone form wasting. Hindsight is > 20/20. > > > Steve > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:02 AM, derf wrote: > >> I think you are a little off. >> Diesel electric locomotives move huge amounts of stuff daily. >> Electric forklifts do work daily. The technology is here now for >> electric vehicles to do real work. >> All we really need is a little advancement in batteries. >> >> Right now I'm leaning toward Diesel. For some stupid reason people in >> other countries have choices of Diesel vehicles that we don't get >> here. >> Call me a conspiracy theorist but I find it criminal that our >> government mandates things like ethanol and at the same time makes >> auto makers produce more fuel efficient vehicles. With Diesel >> vehicles getting 40-50 MPG regularly I don't see why people are so >> taken with current Hybrid offerings. In contrast with 1988 Honda >> CRX-HFs getting 50+ on gasoline with carburetors I find modern Hybrids >> to be lame. From lmacy at mac.com Mon May 9 07:34:45 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 09:34:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [pmgcboard] Brits at the Village- Info.. References: Message-ID: This is for my club's local show. Peddlers village is a cool shopping place and ait is usually a wonderful day for spouses and car owners. See ya there. Larry > __________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Hello "British Car Enthusiast" > Thank You for attending our "All British Car and Bike Show" in previous years! > Please join us again this coming October 8th, 2011. > > "Brits at the Village" Peddler's Village / Lahaska, PA. - Saturday, October 8, 2011 > The Philadelphia MG Club, Inc. is presenting our Fifteenth Annual All British Car & Bike Show. Last year we started what will be new feature for the Brits Car & bike show. A "Featured Marque" and this year the MG MIDGET all models all years. "Brits at The Village" is a Popular Vote Awards Show. Classes are determined by pre-registration. Dash plaques to the first 150 cars/bikes. A special award to the Club that have the most pre-registered, so make this one of your Club Events in October. Pre-registration $15.00 by Sept 24th. $20.00 reg. fee day of show. For more information call Bill Hixson 215.932.0295 or Steve Harding 610.275.7960. For Registration Form go to www.phillyMGclub.com to download "Brits at The Village" registration form, or e-mail Bill Hixson MGBV6T5 at phillyMGclub.com request Brit's Reg.Form. > > "Brits' at the Village" > Bill Hixson -2011 Registar > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Registration .pdf file attached > > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. - Edgar Allen Poe From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 9 07:38:02 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:38:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > You can NOT compare American and European situations. Period. And that applies to diesel as well. The diesel fuel we sell here is NOT the same as the diesel burned in Europe. Our huge fleet of semis and other diesel trucks creates an inertia that makes it difficult to change over to the "world standard", which in turn means that European diesel vehicles are not yet an option for us unless the manufacturer chooses to make a US version. Not something they tend to do at the launch of a new ride, if ever. David L From kmappley at gmail.com Mon May 9 07:45:19 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:45:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) Message-ID: Jim--I meant to be just as hard on the D party. The same big money elects them both!! The fact is that there have been three fairly major nuclear accidents all at plants designed by the best and brightest who supposedly took every possible problem into consideration. As one writer said after the latest accident it will simply be a matter of time before some country becomes uninhabitable because of a nuclear accident. Then there is the matter of nuclear waste. Something that will remain a deadly poison to all life for tens of thousands of years. If the US goverment [read that us] had'nt agreed to accept all nuclear waste in the 50's there would have never have been a nuclear plant built! BTW the US goverment [us!] are paying the nuclear plants for storing this crap!!!!! Kurt. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 9 07:54:25 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 09:54:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Prince William's bachelor party - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B040CBC44@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA> References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B040CBC44@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA> Message-ID: Quote of the Day from Jimmy Fallon . . . referring to Prince William's bachelor party: "It's gotta be weird stuffing money into a stripper's bikini when every bill has a photo of your grandmother printed on it." From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 9 07:58:01 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:58:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would buy a simpler, basic transportation vehicle. IMO, it may not be a conspiracy but the government does a lot to sabotage the free market system. I think Smart Cars are stupid. I read somewhere that the guys putting the Hyabusa motors in smart cars for performance are realizing better fuel economy if they drive them appropriately. That, if true, is upsetting. As far as having "different Diesel" I think it would probably just be a matter of refinement. If Euro Diesel is more advanced and better, then we should migrate toward it. If not, we should keep going and save our migrations for something more advanced and better. They have Diesel race cars that are competitive. My buddy had an E350 Diesel van that got 20MPG. There is no good reason we don't have many Diesel cars to choose from that would get around 40MPG. OTOH, many farmers and users of heavy duty Diesel pickups are getting furious when they get a new truck that gets 12-15MPG when their 5- and 10-year old trucks got 18-22MPG. That, IMHO, is due to government meddling and is a crime against the free market system, capitalism, and humanity. I'm for cleaner air and protecting the environment but the government it taking it too far and not being practical. They should be very careful what limits and mandates they put on the market system. Instead they seem to implement whatever suits their agenda which is sometimes based on junk science or just single-minded opinions instead of facts. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 9 08:00:21 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 10:00:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Not all hinds are worth seeing that clearly though ... ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:47:57 -0400 > From: an5.sprite at gmail.com > Hindsight is 20/20. > > > Steve From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 08:26:19 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 10:26:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed, The storing of the waste is why I do not like nuclear plants. The half life if plutonium is 250,000 years. All human written history is 5,000 years. No one has a clue how expensive it will be to store all the waste. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Jim--I meant to be just as hard on the D party. The same big money elects > them both!! > The fact is that there have been three fairly major nuclear accidents all > at > plants designed by the best and brightest who supposedly took every > possible > problem into consideration. As one writer said after the latest accident it > will simply be a matter of time before some country becomes uninhabitable > because of a nuclear accident. > Then there is the matter of nuclear waste. Something that will remain a > deadly poison to all life for tens of thousands of years. If the US > goverment [read that us] had'nt agreed to accept all nuclear waste in the > 50's there would have never have been a nuclear plant built! > BTW the US goverment [us!] are paying the nuclear plants for storing this > crap!!!!! > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From peter at nosimport.com Mon May 9 08:46:20 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 09:46:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 09:26 AM 5/9/2011, Steven Guterman wrote: >Agreed, > >The storing of the waste is why I do not like nuclear plants. The half life >if plutonium is 250,000 years. All human written history is 5,000 years. >No one has a clue how expensive it will be to store all the waste. ------------------------------------ Maybe a dumb question, but I want to be educated. The waste is "hot", so to speak. Is there no conceivable potential use for the waste? Can't something be derived from it? Peter C From peter at nosimport.com Mon May 9 08:48:43 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 09:48:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHITters... part need? Message-ID: <20110509074847.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Someone in Olalla, WA is needing a LH window regulator for a 67 Spridget. If you have one to sell, contact me and I'll put you in touch. Peter C From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 9 08:49:48 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 09:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: > The waste is "hot", so to speak. Is there no conceivable potential use > for the waste? Can't something be derived from it? Yes indeed, nuclear bombs are made from that "waste"! David L From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon May 9 08:56:20 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 07:56:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING: LBC content - hood front bar dimensions? Message-ID: I know Frank kept this info and would answer whoever asked so hopefully someone out there saved it. What size metal bar for the front of a MK1 or MK2 hood and what's a good source? What kind of steel works best? Rick B. From jfishbein at snet.net Mon May 9 09:01:03 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 08:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free 1970's Midget Parts - Heater Box Duct / Steering Column Cowl Message-ID: <522710.70273.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have the following parts for 70's Midgets. I don't want to toss them but they are of no use to me. If anyone wants them, contact me offlist. They are free for the cost of postage. 4" Air Duct that mounts on the heater box which contains the Air valve and which in turn the 4" fresh air hose slides onto. http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29373 Plastic Cowl for steering column. Underside is cracked but complete. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 09:01:27 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: <1622880172.311174.1304953176705.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <423206018.311204.1304953287118.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> It's an ancient concept which appeared early in Human history and dissappeared shortly after Credit Cards were invented in 1950 by Frank McNamara and which were "enhanced" in 1980 thanks to Andrew Kahr, CitiBank and South Dakota. I still have some samples of "cash" to show to my children -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" What is this 'cash' thing? ;) From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 09:04:38 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <179338943.311245.1304953478853.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Steve, I would consider your comparisons to be invalid. Most of the other countries do not have their own oil fields... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Guterman" The conspiracy is that we have a lower price for gasoline than most of the other developed countries. From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon May 9 09:08:01 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:08:01 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) Message-ID: <20110509.090801.27103.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Yes, Peter there are ways of using the 'waste' fro nuclear power plants. the problem ins that the US gov't has decided that in order to "reduce the chances of nuclear proliferation" that all nuclear waste is to be sequestered. BTW, this hasn't had any effect on nuclear proliferation IMHO. As a result, all of our (USA's) material for nuclear medicine comes from Canada and elsewhere. In the EU, all nuclear waste is reprocessed into alternate useable forms, as a result of this for each TON of nuclear waste that we produce and sequester, the EU produces mere kilograms. There is also a new reactor type that the Gov't refuses to certify, called a Traveling Wave Reactor, that uses what we currently call waste and produces power similarly to a classic reactor, but has a fail-safe design, where if the cooling fails, the reaction stops. www.terrapower.com BTW, When I designed and built my house, I not only built a 1000sf garage for my sprites, but I also installed solar collectors on the roof and tubing in the floors. I live at 8800' in CO, and pay $50/month is backup heating costs (and the snow is still on the ground here) and electricity. Being an engineer is FUN! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Message: 14 Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 09:46:20 -0500 To: Steven Guterman At 09:26 AM 5/9/2011, Steven Guterman wrote: >Agreed, > >The storing of the waste is why I do not like nuclear plants. The half life >if plutonium is 250,000 years. All human written history is 5,000 years. >No one has a clue how expensive it will be to store all the waste. ------------------------------------ Maybe a dumb question, but I want to be educated. The waste is "hot", so to speak. Is there no conceivable potential use for the waste? Can't something be derived from it? Peter C ____________________________________________________________ Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc8038096a6b340f60st06duc From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 09:16:39 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <796532004.311381.1304953886793.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1566732416.311471.1304954199620.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Not so! The "waste" is the byproduct of producing Nuclear weapon grade Plutonium. 1 Ton of uranium produces 1 Pound of Plutonium and a whole lot of nasty stuff. I live and worked 1/2 hours drive south of 570 square miles of contaminated land, dotted with underground tanks containing 53 million U.S. gallons of high-level radioactive waste waste. The latest plan is to Vitrify the waste. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> Yes indeed, nuclear bombs are made from that "waste"! From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 9 09:24:46 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:24:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy(off topic) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110509152447.ALRO9.36892.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> The STRUCTURE for American nuclear plants is designed and built to the highest state of the art standards. I would have no concerns about hitting one with the highest tornado or hurricane. Now the MECHANICAL and ELECTRICAL systems, and the politicians and management, I don't have much faith in. > Meteorologist and retired Tornado researcher here... No worries depending > upon the construction of the tank. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 9 09:44:28 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:44:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110509154429.80N21.37071.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> I think the design of these plants, at least the mechanical and electrical systems, is considerably less sophisticated than you realize. (Hint, have you ever read the comic strip "Dilbert"?) The biggest problem is that these are difficult systems to design, and it is hard to find enough people who are truly competent to design them. You can't take the average college engineering student and convert him into someone who can do this at a high level. And when it filters down to the companies and employees that actually get hired to design these things, they are trying to do it to make money so they are not hiring the best that they could hire. The same thing happens in my branch of engineering. My feeling is that the plants are too complicated and complication affects reliability. > plants designed by the best and brightest who supposedly took every possible > problem into consideration. As one writer said after the latest accident it > will simply be a matter of time before some country becomes uninhabitable > because of a nuclear accident. From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 9 09:45:28 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 10:45:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <20110509.090801.27103.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> References: <20110509.090801.27103.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <4DC80C18.3090609@justbrits.com> << ...waste is to be sequestered. >> Now ONLY if they 'could' do that with 'Rev' Al, Jessie and the other nitwad Farrakhan, something of "real value" would be accomplished !!! On the OTHER hand, if the "hot air" generated by those three [3] could be harnessed; NONpolluting, renewable energy would last for Centuries !!! Me PS: Form your OWN opinion ref "NONpolluting" ! ! ! & LOL ! From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 9 09:55:05 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:55:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110509155505.5E33Y.37189.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> > I think Smart Cars are stupid. I read somewhere that the guys putting > the Hyabusa motors in smart cars for performance are realizing better > fuel economy if they drive them appropriately. That, if true, is > upsetting. You can see my rants concerning design of things in other threads today. I don't have faith that the automotive engineers are designing engines in the best way possible. 22 years ago I had a minivan with 4.3L engine, it would get 24mpg highway. Now my wife drives a similar sized vehicle with 4.7L engine, it only gets 17mpg highway. So in 22 years we have not improved the design of our engines and instead we have gone backwards? Almost anybody that tunes EFI engines these days says they can give you a tune that will make more power and get better economy. So why do the original designers not do this? > As far as having "different Diesel" I think it would probably just be > a matter of refinement. If Euro Diesel is more advanced and better, > then we should migrate toward it. If not, we should keep going and > save our migrations for something more advanced and better. We have different grades of gasoline for sale at the same gas stations, we could certainly have different grades of diesel for sale there too. There could be a different grade for automobiles vs. trucks. > OTOH, many farmers and users of heavy duty Diesel pickups are getting > furious when they get a new truck that gets 12-15MPG when their 5- and > 10-year old trucks got 18-22MPG. That, IMHO, is due to government > meddling and is a crime against the free market system, capitalism, > and humanity. I have not understood the desire to mess with a diesel engine. Diesel engines always had an injector pump and that was all they needed. The injector pump handled the timing and the amount of fuel injected. Air/fuel mixture was not important. These things worked fine at the simplest level. Now gasoline engines are different- air/fuel ratio is very important, and timing is important. These things can be controlled precisely by a computer and make the engine perform very well. But none of this is needed with diesel. Now we have electronic controls on diesel engines. All that this has done is to allow the engines to be modified in the aftermarket for high horsepower. It hasn't helped the off the showroom floor vehicles, buy has gone the other way by making them less fuel efficient and making them very complex and expensive to repair. If you study the fuel and injection system of the modern Ford diesel pickups it will make you want to slap the engineers around. They are certainly not engineers in the same sense that I am an engineer. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon May 9 09:55:49 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 08:55:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > . For some stupid reason people in > other countries have choices of Diesel vehicles that we don't get > here. That's because we tax diesel so high that it's more expensive here than gasoline. If they really wanted to stimulate the economy, make the air cleaner, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil, they'd cut the diesel tax instead of bailing out their friends. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:01:05 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:01:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: <179338943.311245.1304953478853.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <179338943.311245.1304953478853.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Dave, So because we only import half of our oil needs we should be wasteful? Steve On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Steve, > > I would consider your comparisons to be invalid. > Most of the other countries do not have their own oil fields... > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Guterman" > > The conspiracy is that we have a lower price for gasoline than most of the > other developed countries. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 9 10:02:49 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:02:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: <179338943.311245.1304953478853.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20110509160249.YS3EW.37261.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> I visited my parents for mothers day. In their part of the state they have lots of oil wells and oil production. We drove around a little bit to look at the damage from wildfires and drove through some oil producing areas. They don't have big gushers like the things in the Gulf of Mexico that get lots of attention, but each little well produces its own little amount every day. Now if you want to talk about a conspiracy... when the price of oil is $90 per barrel, the little producers around there can only sell their oil for a fraction of that amount. That is probably the reason that our gasoline is cheaper, a lot of the oil that we buy to convert to gasoline is bought at much less than $90 per barrel. My grandfather owned a lot of land that he farmed, and had a few small wells on that land. He sold a part of the land to build a housing development on it. Before that there was a small well on this land that didn't produce much so they tried to cap it. At one point even when it was "capped" they said it would leak a barrel of oil a day. At the time they couldn't make enough money from it to keep it in production. I sure wouldn't mind something in my backyard that would "leak" $90 per day. > I would consider your comparisons to be invalid. > Most of the other countries do not have their own oil fields... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:04:47 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:04:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: References: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: It's an outdated concept, that generally annoys credit card users, when you are in line at your purchase point. But by limiting your purchases, by only getting what you have "cash" for, you tend to not get into debt as easily. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > What is this 'cash' thing? ;) > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > > I was looking at some parts and their prices. > > An awful lot have something like $9.95 or $49.95 or some such - which got > me > thinking. > > Maybe we need a $9 bill and a 99cent coin! > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > DN06ig Richland, WA > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > > '65 Sprite - in process > > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:06:16 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:06:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: References: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > It's an outdated concept, that generally annoys credit card users, when you > are in line at your purchase point. But by limiting your purchases, by only > getting what you have "cash" for, you tend to not get into debt as easily. Anarchist! From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 10:08:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1541604941.312324.1304957289368.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I didn't say that... I drive a Hybrid. And, at 74 yrs old, I still ride a bike - occasionally!! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Guterman" So because we only import half of our oil needs we should be wasteful? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 9 10:08:29 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:08:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110509160829.CAWA2.37304.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> It is human nature to want what we want and not care what it takes to get it. I think we should be less wasteful but people continually complain to me that they should be able to buy whatever vehicle they want to buy. In my area most people drive pickups and SUV's. I see a lot of women driving pickups and carrying nothing. My daughter wants one and would drive it if I would buy it for her, and she has nothing to carry but her iphone. Anytime I rant about people that buy pickups and don't need them, there is a big outcry that "but I can and will buy whatever I WANT to buy". So how do you fight against that? I think if a person needs a pickup then they should buy one, if they don't need one why wouldn't they be happier with something else? It would be safer, more economical, more comfortable, seemingly better all around. But people WANT their pickups, and big SUV's. They don't want to know what it costs and they don't care, they just want it. > So because we only import half of our oil needs we should be wasteful? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:10:26 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:10:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: References: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: A "debt free" Anarchist...... On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:06 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > It's an outdated concept, that generally annoys credit card users, when > you > > are in line at your purchase point. But by limiting your purchases, by > only > > getting what you have "cash" for, you tend to not get into debt as > easily. > > Anarchist! > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:12:36 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: <1541604941.312324.1304957289368.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1541604941.312324.1304957289368.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Then my apologies, I misunderstood your comment. Our daily driver is also a Hybrid and now that it is warmer I try to ride my bike daily. (only 57) On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I didn't say that... > I drive a Hybrid. > And, at 74 yrs old, I still ride a bike - occasionally!! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Guterman" > > So because we only import half of our oil needs we should be wasteful? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 10:15:55 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: <20110509160249.YS3EW.37261.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> Message-ID: <712633623.312430.1304957755973.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Is a "Barrel" of oil still 42 US gallons?? BTW The main reason that gasoline is so expensive in the UK and France is taxes!! My dad used to say... "every year the (UK) government raises taxes on gasoline, cigarettes and beer. They know we can't live without them!" -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com when the price of oil is $90 per barrel, the little producers around there can only sell their oil for a fraction of that amount. That is probably the reason that our gasoline is cheaper, a lot of the oil that we buy to convert to gasoline is bought at much less than $90 per barrel. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:21:38 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:21:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Old air compressor available Message-ID: List, I now have a newer air compressor so I am getting rid of my old (vintage) 20 gallon (or so) one. I do not know when it was built but likely from the 50's. The good It works Heavy tank Has wheels 1 HP 110 motor The bad could use a 3 hp motor Heavy leaks a bit form the fittings and auto cutoff. Before I listed on craigs or ebay I wanted to see if anyone on the list is interested. Local pickup only in Remsenburg, Long Island, zip 11960. I will take pictures later in the week, no offer from this list refused. contact off list. Steve From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon May 9 10:29:36 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 12:29:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <2DEF52E5817A4EF59896BEF67652D19E@Home> > Maybe a dumb question, but I want to be educated. > The waste is "hot", so to speak. Is there no conceivable potential > use for the waste? Can't something be derived from it? Engineers are working on reactor designs that burn spent fuel. That won't eliminate all waste, but it will reduced it by orders of magnitude. Michael Rowe From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:42:24 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 11:42:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <2DEF52E5817A4EF59896BEF67652D19E@Home> References: <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <2DEF52E5817A4EF59896BEF67652D19E@Home> Message-ID: Also, suggesting that plants like Chernobyl were designed and built on a par with Three Mile Island is just not true. Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. The reason the TMI accident didn't hurt anyone or contaminate the area was because of the quality of its design and construction. As to the Fukushima plants, design and construction were excellent. The disaster occurred because of loss of electricity to the plants caused by a massive EQ and Tsunami. There are things which simply can't be done in this world lest we become too arrogant as masters of our environment! I'd rather have some much safer form of energy, but what do we do for energy until those technologies mature? Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Maybe a dumb question, but I want to be educated. >> The waste is "hot", so to speak. Is there no conceivable potential use >> for the waste? Can't something be derived from it? >> > > Engineers are working on reactor designs that burn spent fuel. That won't > eliminate all waste, but it will reduced it by orders of magnitude. > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 9 10:48:39 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. Message-ID: <36551.22c85c3d.3af974e7@aol.com> I think I'm paying about #5 a gallon, don't know what that works out to be in US gallons and dollars. In a message dated 09/05/2011 13:48:09 GMT Daylight Time, an5.sprite at gmail.com writes: In Europe gas or diesel costs 1.5 to 2 times as much From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 9 10:54:15 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:54:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: , , <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, <2DEF52E5817A4EF59896BEF67652D19E@Home>, Message-ID: Geritol? ---------------------------------------- > From: bmwwxman at gmail.com > I'd rather have some much safer form of energy, but what do we do for energy > until those technologies mature? > > Cheers!! > Jim From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:55:04 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:55:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: <36551.22c85c3d.3af974e7@aol.com> References: <36551.22c85c3d.3af974e7@aol.com> Message-ID: about double what we are paying!!! On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, wrote: > I think I'm paying about #5 a gallon, don't know what that works out to > be in US gallons and dollars. > > > In a message dated 09/05/2011 13:48:09 GMT Daylight Time, > an5.sprite at gmail.com writes: > > In Europe gas or diesel costs 1.5 to 2 times as much From lists at dinospider.com Mon May 9 10:58:53 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 09:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC81D4D.4040406@dinospider.com> The problem with all the alternate fuels is distribution, some of us love to drive and alternative fuels are fine if you stay within city limits but there is no distribution outside of city limits for the alternative fuels. I drive 7 miles to work, for easy math call it 15 miles roundtrip, 15 miles each day X 5 days a week = 75 miles a week X 49 weeks of work (3 weeks vacation) = 3675 miles a year for my commute to work. 0 miles for groceries, I walk to the store, lets call it 4,000 miles a year for work commute and other trips. So how did I do 17,000 miles last year ? I ride for pleasure, that is how. I could never go for alternative fuels, most of my miles are out of the city limits, rode 300 miles (roundtrip) 2 weeks ago for some twisties and a good burger. Last week was South to L.A. for some Persian food (1.5 hours each way). This week I am planning on taking a afternoon off and going up Hi. 1 200 miles for some great Clam Chowder. My wife and I think nothing of getting on the bike or in the car (rarely) and driving 4.5 hours to Monterey for dinner, leave at 2, get there at 6:30, leave Monterey at 8 and be home by half past midnight. We love riding and we have Hi. 1 to ride, so why not ride. Gas stations on Hi. 1 are already expensive and far apart, can you imagine what they would be like for alternative fuels ? we would never get out of the house. My Dino does not even have a radio in it, the best music in the world is under the hood, 2litre twin-overhead cam V6 powered by 3 2-barrel Webers, you need to hear that 8,500RPM :) and you want me to put in a Electric motor in it ? forget it. And the Dino holds the curves on hi. 1 almost as well as my BMW bike and you want me to mess up its handling with heavy batteries ? forget it. For normal use, distribution is killing alternative fuels, with my driving habits I could not have alternative fuels. Wife and I go out to dinner once a week and yeah we budget fuel costs in that dinner costs even though 90% of the time we only go 20-30 miles a away. I do remember the gas rationing of the late 70's early 80's, how come carbed cars in those days got 50MPG and nowday 30MPG is great ? (don't answer that, I know the answer, its all the junk we put on cars now) mike On 05/09/2011 05:47 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: > derf, > > The conspiracy is that we have a lower price for gasoline than most of the > other developed countries. When gas was $2-$3 bucks a gallon we did not > give a S__T about how poor the gas millage was in our cars. This was at the > individual level buying big heavy cars and the government level that did not > force increases in fuel economy. > > In Europe gas or diesel costs 1.5 to 2 times as much and European earn less > on average then we do. They demand higher efficiency so they can drive > around and not bankrupt their savings or economy. > > Regrettably the only time this gets press is when gas prices go over $4 > bucks a gallon. When oil was $15 a barrel in early 2000s we should have > added loads of taxes to fuel to stop everyone form wasting. Hindsight is > 20/20. > > > Steve > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:02 AM, derf wrote: > > >> I think you are a little off. >> Diesel electric locomotives move huge amounts of stuff daily. >> Electric forklifts do work daily. The technology is here now for >> electric vehicles to do real work. >> All we really need is a little advancement in batteries. >> >> Right now I'm leaning toward Diesel. For some stupid reason people in >> other countries have choices of Diesel vehicles that we don't get >> here. >> Call me a conspiracy theorist but I find it criminal that our >> government mandates things like ethanol and at the same time makes >> auto makers produce more fuel efficient vehicles. With Diesel >> vehicles getting 40-50 MPG regularly I don't see why people are so >> taken with current Hybrid offerings. In contrast with 1988 Honda >> CRX-HFs getting 50+ on gasoline with carburetors I find modern Hybrids >> to be lame. From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 11:00:33 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: <36551.22c85c3d.3af974e7@aol.com> Message-ID: <502255954.313238.1304960433760.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> As of today #(GB)5 = $(US)8.17 1 Imperial gallon = 1.2 US gallons Therefore equtes to $(US)6.57 per US gallon. QED -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com I think I'm paying about #5 a gallon, don't know what that works out to be in US gallons and dollars. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon May 9 11:04:47 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:04:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: <423206018.311204.1304953287118.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <423206018.311204.1304953287118.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: hmm.. all mine say something like legal tender for all Confederate States or some such.. is that what you're talking about?? Lester On May 9, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > It's an ancient concept which appeared early in Human history and dissappeared shortly after Credit Cards were invented in 1950 by Frank McNamara and which were "enhanced" in 1980 thanks to Andrew Kahr, CitiBank and South Dakota. > > I still have some samples of "cash" to show to my children > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Duquette" > > What is this 'cash' thing? ;) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon May 9 11:05:38 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:05:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: References: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <7049354F-3A4B-4698-B3DF-3CAC37903412@comcast.net> Only because of the free trade of Tequila across international lines. ;-) Lester On May 9, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > A "debt free" Anarchist...... > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:06 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> It's an outdated concept, that generally annoys credit card users, when >> you >>> are in line at your purchase point. But by limiting your purchases, by >> only >>> getting what you have "cash" for, you tend to not get into debt as >> easily. >> >> Anarchist! >> > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 9 11:10:20 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:10:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: References: <1184907760.288696.1304721470692.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, , Message-ID: I have been told that debit cards aren't widely accepted by the citizens of the US. They are in Canada. I rarely carry cash and I rarely write cheques. I keep some change in the car for parking meters. I shop online when I can and I do online banking. I do seem to have a bit of debt though. From: tequila.brad at gmail.com It's an outdated concept, that generally annoys credit card users, when you are in line at your purchase point. But by limiting your purchases, by only getting what you have "cash" for, you tend to not get into debt as easily. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: What is this 'cash' thing? ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > > I was looking at some parts and their prices. > An awful lot have something like $9.95 or $49.95 or some such - which got me thinking. > Maybe we need a $9 bill and a 99cent coin! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon May 9 11:11:20 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:11:20 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING: LBC content - hood front bar dimensions? Message-ID: <20110509.111120.28529.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Hood bar dimensions- 9/16" W X 36 1/4" L X 1/16" Thick with rounded ends per Frank C. I wouldn't stress about material type- Hot rolled is fine. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 07:56:20 -0700 From: Rick Bastedo Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING: LBC content - hood front bar dimensions? I know Frank kept this info and would answer whoever asked so hopefully someone out there saved it. What size metal bar for the front of a MK1 or MK2 hood and what's a good source? What kind of steel works best? Rick B. ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc820814c71034843est04duc From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 11:14:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:14:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: <201105090746425.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <2DEF52E5817A4EF59896BEF67652D19E@Home> Message-ID: I tried that. Did you ever try to clean it out of your fuel injectors? ;-) Cheers! Jim On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Geritol? > > ---------------------------------------- > > > From: bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > I'd rather have some much safer form of energy, but what do we do for > energy > > until those technologies mature? > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 9 11:58:26 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) Message-ID: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> That may be so. The cause of the Chernobyl accident was the running of an unauthorised test that went wrong. Ironically the test was to test emergency procedures due to loss of power to cooling pumps. Harrisburg, Three Mile Island - something to do with the cooling valves. Fukishima - failure of the cooling system due to loss of back-up power when the electricity failed. Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the design and backups for the cooling system. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 12:05:00 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:05:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> References: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> Message-ID: True, Daniel.... But try to engineer a back-up power system of that scale that can withstand a 9.0 earthquake followed by a massive Tsunami within hours. It's Murphy's Law... Whatever can go wrong will. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, wrote: > That may be so. The cause of the Chernobyl accident was the running of > an unauthorised test that went wrong. Ironically the test was to test > emergency procedures due to loss of power to cooling pumps. > > Harrisburg, Three Mile Island - something to do with the cooling valves. > > Fukishima - failure of the cooling system due to loss of back-up power when > the electricity failed. > > > Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the > design and backups for the cooling system. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, > bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: > > Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. > > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kmappley at gmail.com Mon May 9 12:16:11 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:16:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Renewable energy (off topic) Message-ID: No time right now but just wanted to say that although foreign countries are reducing the magnitude of there waste they have'nt figuredout how to eliminate it and it is my understanding that the stuff they end up with is really nasty. The point i really wanted to make is that our heirs are going to hate us for the way we have handled all energy. As to renewables we all know nuclear has a cost that is not being assessed. We all know that carbon based fuels have a cost that is not being assessed. We don't know what that cost is exactly but why can't we take a stab at it and tax these energy forms. Its not like the federal gov does'nt need the money. And while were at it lets stop subsidizing big energy companies to keep energy cheap. I am forced to pay a certain amount of taxes that go towards these subsidies but if energy was higher priced I would have lots of options to avoid the cost. This, unfortunatly, won't happen and it appears nuclear will be our future. If the cost of power were higher you would be amazed at the power production that would come from independant producers. Take a look at what Germany has done and note that the country is booming while we are coasting at best. My .02 Kurt. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 12:29:32 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:29:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is a direct quote on Germany's energy usage.... Germany is one of the largest consumers of energy in the world. In 2009, it consumed energy from the following sources: - Oil 34.6% - Bituminous coal 11.1% - Lignite 11.4% - Natural gas 21.7 - Nuclear power 11.0% - Hydro- and wind power 1.5% - Others 9.0% Looks to me like they are also deriving most of their energy from fossil fuels Many of which they have to import. I don't think it is a given that we have nuclear electricity. I just don't think we need to strangle oil, coal and gas until we have something reliable and plentiful enough to replace them. Let's make gradual changes rather than changing horses in the middle of the stream. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > No time right now but just wanted to say that although foreign countries > are > reducing the magnitude of there waste they have'nt figuredout how to > eliminate it and it is my understanding that the stuff they end up with is > really nasty. > The point i really wanted to make is that our heirs are going to hate us > for > the way we have handled all energy. > As to renewables we all know nuclear has a cost that is not being assessed. > We all know that carbon based fuels have a cost that is not being assessed. > We don't know what that cost is exactly but why can't we take a stab at it > and tax these energy forms. Its not like the federal gov does'nt need the > money. And while were at it lets stop subsidizing big energy companies to > keep energy cheap. I am forced to pay a certain amount of taxes that go > towards these subsidies but if energy was higher priced I would have lots > of > options to avoid the cost. > This, unfortunatly, won't happen and it appears nuclear will be our future. > If the cost of power were higher you would be amazed at the power > production > that would come from independant producers. Take a look at what Germany has > done and note that the country is booming while we are coasting at best. > > My .02 > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon May 9 12:33:31 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:33:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> References: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> Message-ID: Aluminum rads, silcone hoses, ceramic coated exhaust, check the timing, flush the cooling system periodically, ... ;) > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > > That may be so. The cause of the Chernobyl accident was the running of an > unauthorised test that went wrong. Ironically the test was to test > emergency procedures due to loss of power to cooling pumps. > > Harrisburg, Three Mile Island - something to do with the cooling valves. > > Fukishima - failure of the cooling system due to loss of back-up power when > the electricity failed. > > > Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the > design and backups for the cooling system. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, > bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: > > Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. > _______________________________________________ From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon May 9 12:45:19 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 13:45:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING: LBC content - hood front bar dimensions? References: <20110509.111120.28529.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Alum works great as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Haynes" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING: LBC content - hood front bar dimensions? > Hood bar dimensions- 9/16" W X 36 1/4" L X 1/16" Thick with rounded ends > per > Frank C. I wouldn't stress about material type- Hot rolled is fine. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 07:56:20 -0700 > From: Rick Bastedo > Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING: LBC content - hood front bar dimensions? > > > I know Frank kept this info and would answer whoever asked so hopefully > someone out there saved it. > What size metal bar for the front of a MK1 or MK2 hood and what's a good > source? > What kind of steel works best? > > Rick B. > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon.com Official Site > 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc820814c71034843est04duc > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1325 / Virus Database: 1500/3626 - Release Date: 05/09/11 From peter at nosimport.com Mon May 9 12:50:24 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 13:50:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> Message-ID: <201105091150159.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I think silicone hoses are enough..... PPP At 01:33 PM 5/9/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: >Aluminum rads, silcone hoses, ceramic coated exhaust, check the timing, flush >the cooling system periodically, ... ;) > > > > > Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the > > design and backups for the cooling system. > > > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > > In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, > > bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: > > > > Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. > > _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 13:02:34 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:02:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <201105091150159.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> <201105091150159.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: You hosers!! On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > I think silicone hoses are enough..... > > PPP > At 01:33 PM 5/9/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: > >> Aluminum rads, silcone hoses, ceramic coated exhaust, check the timing, >> flush >> the cooling system periodically, ... ;) >> >> > >> > Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the >> > design and backups for the cooling system. >> > >> > Weslake-Monza 1330 >> > >> > In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, >> > bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: >> > >> > Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 13:19:07 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <974833929.315768.1304968747060.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Never had a problem using mine - use it all the time everywhere I've been... But I have had problems with places not taking American Express (like Abilene, TX) or MasterCard (Paris, France), and don't even think of Capitol One.... I always pay major bills with a check (paper trail in case of dispute!) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" I have been told that debit cards aren't widely accepted by the citizens of the US. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 9 13:45:39 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Money (sorta LBC...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110509194539.7ALFO.78201.root@cdptpa-web17-z02> If you use a debit card you are spending YOUR money. If you use a credit card you are spending the CREDIT CARD COMPANY's money. Same thing if someone gets unauthorized access to your card. Do you want to risk YOUR money or someone else's money? Years ago someone got my wifes debit card number and drained her bank account. She hardly used the card and never did figure out how they got it. The debit card company eventually did put the money back, but it took awhile and they of course have their big paragraph of fine print so YMMV. I like it a lot better when the charges show up in a statement and we can dispute them before we have to send payment. > I have been told that debit cards aren't widely accepted by the citizens of > the US. They are in Canada. > I rarely carry cash and I rarely write cheques. I keep some change in the car > for parking meters. I shop online when I can and I do online banking. I do > seem to have a bit of debt though. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon May 9 13:57:22 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:57:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles. Message-ID: <39f801cc0e83$4f72a5c0$056a010a@mail2world.com> You'll probably find that, although the 2 vans are similar in footprint, the new one weighs more due to the need for beefier structures for mandated crashworthiness, airbags, and the related wiring and electronics, not to mention all the power equipment that comes standard. I'll also bet the new one has much more hp than the old one, and maybe even gearing to make the van feel more powerful. Power and weight cost fuel... For the modern diesels, my money would be on the fact that these diesels need to pass ever tightening emissions standards. Otherwise, why put a bunch of expensive electronics on it? Even Spridgets got heavier as the decades wore on - my 1500 supposedly weighed 1850lbs, which is a lot for such a tiny car. Nowadays, try finding any car that weighs under 2500lbs. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com [bjshov8 at tx.rr.com] Sent: 5/9/2011 11:55:05 AM To: Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles. > I think Smart Cars are stupid. I read somewhere that the guys putting > the Hyabusa motors in smart cars for performance are realizing better > fuel economy if they drive them appropriately. That, if true, is > upsetting. You can see my rants concerning design of things in other threads today. I don't have faith that the automotive engineers are designing engines in the best way possible. 22 years ago I had a minivan with 4.3L engine, it would get 24mpg highway. Now my wife drives a similar sized vehicle with 4.7L engine, it only gets 17mpg highway. So in 22 years we have not improved the design of our engines and instead we have gone backwards? Almost anybody that tunes EFI engines these days says they can give you a tune that will make more power and get better economy. So why do the original designers not do this? > As far as having "different Diesel" I think it would probably just be > a matter of refinement. If Euro Diesel is more advanced and better, > then we should migrate toward it. If not, we should keep going and > save our migrations for something more advanced and better. We have different grades of gasoline for sale at the same gas stations, we could certainly have different grades of diesel for sale there too. There could be a different grade for automobiles vs. trucks. > OTOH, many farmers and users of heavy duty Diesel pickups are getting > furious when they get a new truck that gets 12-15MPG when their 5- and > 10-year old trucks got 18-22MPG. That, IMHO, is due to government > meddling and is a crime against the free market system, capitalism, > and humanity. I have not understood the desire to mess with a diesel engine. Diesel engines always had an injector pump and that was all they needed. The injector pump handled the timing and the amount of fuel injected. Air/fuel mixture was not important. These things worked fine at the simplest level. Now gasoline engines are different- air/fuel ratio is very important, and timing is important. These things can be controlled precisely by a computer and make the engine perform very well. But none of this is needed with diesel. Now we have electronic controls on diesel engines. All that this has done is to allow the engines to be modified in the aftermarket for high horsepower. It hasn't helped the off the showroom floor vehicles, buy has gone the other way by making them less fuel efficient and making them very complex and expensive to repair. If you study the fuel and injection system of the modern Ford diesel pickups it will make you want to slap the engineers around. They are certainly not engineers in the same sense that I am an engineer. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu . From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon May 9 14:58:53 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:58:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> Message-ID: Yup, a friend tried to get me to read a book, a title I can never remember, that goes on and on about man thinking that he has engineered to overcome nature and every damn time nature wins. The fact that we have not witnessed a bigger earthquake or bigger tsunami or stronger tornado or hurricane does NOT mean that it hasn't happened before or will not happen in the future. Design to 200% above the worst known natural problem to date and you will be under designing. Lester On May 9, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > True, Daniel.... But try to engineer a back-up power system of that scale > that can withstand a 9.0 earthquake followed by a massive Tsunami within > hours. It's Murphy's Law... Whatever can go wrong will. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, wrote: > >> That may be so. The cause of the Chernobyl accident was the running of >> an unauthorised test that went wrong. Ironically the test was to test >> emergency procedures due to loss of power to cooling pumps. >> >> Harrisburg, Three Mile Island - something to do with the cooling valves. >> >> Fukishima - failure of the cooling system due to loss of back-up power when >> the electricity failed. >> >> >> Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the >> design and backups for the cooling system. >> >> Weslake-Monza 1330 >> >> In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, >> bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: >> >> Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 9 15:04:43 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) Message-ID: <75c1d.741f9386.3af9b0ea@aol.com> So, anyone want an ORANGE silicone hose set for a downflow rad spridget? Contact me off list. In a message dated 09/05/2011 19:33:37 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: Aluminum rads, silcone hoses, ceramic coated exhaust, check the timing, flush the cooling system periodically, ... ;) From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 9 15:05:10 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1162277112.1962454.1304975110823.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I'm afraid that I would not feel very smart driving a Smart car between a pair of 100,000+ pound tractor trailers, not matter how much safety equipment it came with. Kate Americans do not like small cars, present company excepted of course. Safety standards do not allow small, lightweight, fuel efficient cars. Yes the Smart car comes to mind but imagine how much better the fuel mileage would be without the safety stuff, and they are not, I repeat, NOT being sold in droves. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 15:08:20 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:08:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> Message-ID: It is not the spec that you engineered to that counts. It is the sequence of events you did not expect that will then get you. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:58:53 To: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) Yup, a friend tried to get me to read a book, a title I can never remember, that goes on and on about man thinking that he has engineered to overcome nature and every damn time nature wins. The fact that we have not witnessed a bigger earthquake or bigger tsunami or stronger tornado or hurricane does NOT mean that it hasn't happened before or will not happen in the future. Design to 200% above the worst known natural problem to date and you will be under designing. Lester On May 9, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > True, Daniel.... But try to engineer a back-up power system of that scale > that can withstand a 9.0 earthquake followed by a massive Tsunami within > hours. It's Murphy's Law... Whatever can go wrong will. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, wrote: > >> That may be so. The cause of the Chernobyl accident was the running of >> an unauthorised test that went wrong. Ironically the test was to test >> emergency procedures due to loss of power to cooling pumps. >> >> Harrisburg, Three Mile Island - something to do with the cooling valves. >> >> Fukishima - failure of the cooling system due to loss of back-up power when >> the electricity failed. >> >> >> Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the >> design and backups for the cooling system. >> >> Weslake-Monza 1330 >> >> In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, >> bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: >> >> Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon May 9 15:14:09 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <1450709190-1304975309-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1433936345-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <3ea17.410d8f44.3af98542@aol.com> <1450709190-1304975309-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1433936345-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <05B1FB3E-2C33-4D73-899F-585ED486ED36@comcast.net> ..or the idiot behind the wheel so to speak.. Lester On May 9, 2011, at 4:08 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > It is not the spec that you engineered to that counts. It is the sequence of events you did not expect that will then get you. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:58:53 > To: Jim Johnson > Cc: Spridgets list > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) > > Yup, a friend tried to get me to read a book, a title I can never remember, > that goes on and on about man thinking that he has engineered to overcome > nature and every damn time nature wins. The fact that we have not witnessed a > bigger earthquake or bigger tsunami or stronger tornado or hurricane does NOT > mean that it hasn't happened before or will not happen in the future. > > Design to 200% above the worst known natural problem to date and you will be > under designing. > > Lester > > > > On May 9, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> True, Daniel.... But try to engineer a back-up power system of that scale >> that can withstand a 9.0 earthquake followed by a massive Tsunami within >> hours. It's Murphy's Law... Whatever can go wrong will. >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, wrote: >> >>> That may be so. The cause of the Chernobyl accident was the running of >>> an unauthorised test that went wrong. Ironically the test was to test >>> emergency procedures due to loss of power to cooling pumps. >>> >>> Harrisburg, Three Mile Island - something to do with the cooling valves. >>> >>> Fukishima - failure of the cooling system due to loss of back-up power > when >>> the electricity failed. >>> >>> >>> Seems to me the common theme to all these nuclear accidents lies in the >>> design and backups for the cooling system. >>> >>> Weslake-Monza 1330 >>> >>> In a message dated 09/05/2011 17:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, >>> bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: >>> >>> Chernobyl was poorly designed and badly constructed. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers!! >> Jim Johnson >> Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! >> Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 >> Info & Registration here: >> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 9 15:54:22 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:54:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <20110509210842.75BC7187676@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <20110509215422.PDAKH.191206.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> Failures are frequently the combination of several factors. One thing usually isn't enough to make something fail. So running an improper test AND having someone read a gauge wrong AND having a relay fail, now that is when you powerplant blows up. I ranted before about the complexity of the modern powerplants- the more complex, the more chance of an unforseen sequence of events. Battery-switch-lightbulb, now that is a simple system. Walls full of relays, walls full of gauges, those are a little more complex. > It is not the spec that you engineered to that counts. It is the sequence of events you did not expect that will then get you. From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon May 9 16:39:35 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 18:39:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline w/Ethanol test Message-ID: <9c4a79$c4js65@email.mtu.edu> I read on the Internet (source of all knowledge) that an individual can test for the presence of ethanol in gasoline by filling a test tube with water halfway (put a mark on the tube at the top of the water). Then add gasoline. If the gasoline contains ethanol then the level of the water will go up as the alcohol combines with the water. In my test there was no change in the level so presumably there is no ethanol in the gasoline I am using for my lawn mower. This gasoline came from a Speedway station which I believe is affiliated with Marathon somehow. My "test tube" is plastic and the gasoline did fog the plastic. I've been using Shell gasoline in my Sprite. Anyone else ever try this? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 17:04:21 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 18:04:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline w/Ethanol test In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$c4js65@email.mtu.edu> References: <9c4a79$c4js65@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsSQSuCiUjE My K-BMW list discussed this last year as the ethanol is starting to cause problems on them. We found that you can't trust the labels on the pumps. If you want to make sure on this, you need to test every time you fill up and before you put it in the tank. Ethanol is hygroscopic so there is a tendency to gel and clog filters and fuel pumps. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Tim Collins wrote: > I read on the Internet (source of all knowledge) that an individual can > test for the presence of ethanol in gasoline by filling a test tube with > water halfway (put a mark on the tube at the top of the water). Then add > gasoline. If the gasoline contains ethanol then the level of the water will > go up as the alcohol combines with the water. In my test there was no change > in the level so presumably there is no ethanol in the gasoline I am using > for my lawn mower. This gasoline came from a Speedway station which I > believe is affiliated with Marathon somehow. My "test tube" is plastic and > the gasoline did fog the plastic. I've been using Shell gasoline in my > Sprite. Anyone else ever try this? > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/_______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon May 9 17:10:47 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:10:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles--and IS 710 Message-ID: <004001cc0e9e$55542020$fffc6060$@net> Kate wrote: "I'm afraid that I would not feel very smart driving a Smart car between a pair of 100,000+ pound tractor trailers, not matter how much safety equipment it came with." Oh, Kate, that would be a piece of cake compared to driving my Sprite on Interstate 710 between the Port of Long Beach and the railway yards in Los Angeles. You see, more cargo and containers move through the Port of Long Beach (and Los Angeles) than any other United States Port, and that means the 710 is also the most heavily traveled route of 18-wheelers in America (and perhaps the world if decade-old records still hold). I'll tell you that in a Sprite and on a scale of 1-10, that stretch has a Pucker Factor of about 20!!!!!! (And can quickly recolor your seat upholstery.) Those 18-wheel suckers respect each other, and are accustomed to getting their own way. They can't even SEE a Sprite among all that horsepower. Pam refuses to ride in the Sprite if I am going anywhere near the 710!!!!! Let's, Billy and Paul can pretty well attest to the Lions and Early Christians nature of the 710! Buster Evans From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Mon May 9 17:27:44 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:27:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol Test Message-ID: <8D05292E36BA4979B7E6F18A186DBC24@YOUR8709F5649E> Tim, I got an ethanol test kit from Fuel Testers at www.fueltestkit.com last year or so, about $35 with shipping. Just a plastic test tube with calibrations, instructions, and a squeeze bottle for the fuel. Uses a gas and water mix that separates according to the eth content. I use Shell here in northern Maryland for all the vehicles and lawn equipment. The MG and Bug like the premium. The sedan requires it, so they say who also recommend Shell and have arrainged things so I can`t service it myself. The truck, Escort 16 year old Craftsman tractor, mower, and weedwacker run fine on reg. The Premium fuel from the two Shell stations I use has tested consistently at 5%. over the last 18 months. Never tested the reg. My buddy was getting no-eth gas for his A from a station in nearby Quarryville, Pa. It tested zero alcohol, but regular was selling for above premium prices. That place recently stopped selling the traditional fuel. I dope the gas for the LBCs with stabilizer and pull the plug and drain the tanks once yearly. Run the lawn machines dry over the winter. No problems so far except that the MG and Bug take forever to warm up and get off choke in cold weather and everything is getting worse mileage. Bert Shirey Midget MK II 1098 60 Bugeye From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 9 17:33:05 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline w/Ethanol test In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$c4js65@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <750207989.319853.1304983985668.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> How do you get the fuel from the pump nozzle into the much smaller test tube without decorating yourself and your surroundings?? Being serious - not facetious! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon May 9 18:12:48 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 20:12:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline w/Ethanol test In-Reply-To: <750207989.319853.1304983985668.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.d lls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <9c4a79$c4js65@email.mtu.edu> <750207989.319853.1304983985668.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <9c4a79$c4ks7a@email.mtu.edu> I thought about doing this at the pump but had visions of having to explain all this to the police! LOL I took a gallon gas can I use for lawn mower gas and went from there - ran the test at home. Jim says every drop can be different so I guess I only checked that day's tank. Not a practical test to (easily) run at the pump. I think you can buy kits for testing on the web. At 07:33 PM 5/9/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: >How do you get the fuel from the pump nozzle into the much smaller >test tube without decorating yourself and your surroundings?? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon May 9 18:52:57 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:52:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mr Money: the electric 'car' worth buying - Telegraph Message-ID: <005901cc0eac$9b115570$d1340050$@net> Good for some chuckles. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/mike-rutherford/8498218/Mr-Mo ney-the-electric-car-worth-buying.html From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 9 18:54:12 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:54:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [pmgcboard] Brits at the Village- Info.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: on my calendar thanks Larry On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > This is for my club's local show. Peddlers village is a cool shopping place > and ait is usually a wonderful day for spouses and car owners. > > See ya there. > > Larry > > > > __________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Hello "British Car Enthusiast" > > Thank You for attending our "All British Car and Bike Show" in previous > years! > > Please join us again this coming October 8th, 2011. > > > > "Brits at the Village" Peddler's Village / Lahaska, PA. - Saturday, > October 8, 2011 > > The Philadelphia MG Club, Inc. is presenting our Fifteenth Annual All > British Car & Bike Show. Last year we started what will be new feature for > the Brits Car & bike show. A "Featured Marque" and this year the MG MIDGET > all models all years. "Brits at The Village" is a Popular Vote Awards Show. > Classes are determined by pre-registration. Dash plaques to the first 150 > cars/bikes. A special award to the Club that have the most pre-registered, > so make this one of your Club Events in October. Pre-registration $15.00 by > Sept 24th. $20.00 reg. fee day of show. For more information call Bill > Hixson 215.932.0295 or Steve Harding 610.275.7960. For Registration Form > go to www.phillyMGclub.com to download "Brits at The Village" registration > form, or e-mail Bill Hixson MGBV6T5 at phillyMGclub.com request Brit's > Reg.Form. > > > > "Brits' at the Village" > > Bill Hixson -2011 Registar > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > Registration .pdf file attached > > > > > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. > - Edgar Allen Poe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From jessmd1 at comcast.net Mon May 9 19:57:28 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:57:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding Message-ID: <2CDA2B0A-072A-4D06-9D6B-9ABA149D3C3D@comcast.net> Is it necessary to bench bleed a new master cylinder that only has a single line coming out to work on all 4 brakes? From jessmd1 at comcast.net Mon May 9 19:59:46 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:59:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim Message-ID: <5FF04CFC-88E0-45FD-B77D-B0A048CD9811@comcast.net> Any suggestions on how to get the rubber trim piece in place that goes between the windshield and the body.I have tried soap and water and sliding it on to no avail. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:01:44 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 22:01:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <675581257.305774.1304903921332.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <00da01cc0de3$6b5d5dc0$42181940$@rr.com> <675581257.305774.1304903921332.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: This is an interesting topic, I noticed those specs also and wondered if there was a more efficient way to approach a project like that. Our cars are too heavy, the kits are too inefficient. Did anyone see the segment on the Tesla the other day on speed channel? My brother-in-law just moved to LA to design for Tesla (he does interiors). After being out of work in Detroit he took the job and loves it but he is not a "mechanical car guy" and he can't afford a Tesla ether. The way Tesla builds the rotor and stator is amazing and the chassis is aluminum with a carbon fiber body. They said they get 245 miles on a charge : ) Too bad 200K price tag : ( Lin On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > But the downside is > > QUOTE: > Car specs > Range: 25 to 30 miles > Top speed: 65 mph+ > Recharge time: 6 to 8 hours > Weight: 2300 lbs. > UNQUOTE: > > Sadly, most of us couldn't get to Work and back! > But his implemntation is nice.. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Seippel" > > http://www.acterra.org/ev/ > > Been done already. - Jim > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:16:22 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 22:16:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding In-Reply-To: <2CDA2B0A-072A-4D06-9D6B-9ABA149D3C3D@comcast.net> References: <2CDA2B0A-072A-4D06-9D6B-9ABA149D3C3D@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bleeding the brakes can be a PITA. If you bench bleed the master then you have less air to remove form the lines. Unless of course if you have a power bleeder than it makes little difference. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Jess Power wrote: > Is it necessary to bench bleed a new master cylinder that only has a single > line coming out to work on all 4 brakes? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:23:31 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:23:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline w/Ethanol test In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$c4js65@email.mtu.edu> References: <9c4a79$c4js65@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Here in LA you can just pour a little in a cup and wait 10 minutes. It will turn white with all the water it soaks up from the atmosphere on a humid day. I was told (the other source of most knowledge, word of mouth) that Ethanol is transported in a separate tank in the tanker trucks and mixed upon delivery to the gas stations because otherwise it would start soaking up water along the way. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:26:43 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:26:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Roll Bar in Mobile, AL Message-ID: At Barry's UPullIt in Mobile, AL there is a 71 MGB carcass with a roll bar in it. It seemed to have both bumpers but no motor and not much else. The roll bar looked serviceable, though. NFI, just passing info along. I also saw a Studebaker, two Porsches, and a new Beetle there which I don't often see at UPullIt places. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:27:51 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 22:27:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: <-7228174110464595922@unknownmsgid> References: <20110508233812.2342C1878B9@autox.team.net> <26431211196443DDA1082EB5ABE4F50B@HomePC> <-7228174110464595922@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: This was excellent, I was on the floor laughing. Steve On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Paul Herder wrote: > You mean like this one? > > :) > > http://www.funnyville.com/funny-flash/dengdeng.html > > > -----Original Message----- > > I fly RC model airplanes - both electric powered and gasoline powered (no > slimers). There are electronic sound sysems available that can make your > electric Piper Cub sound like the real thing. The sound of a real Cub > engine is digitized and played back through speakers in the model. The > engine note is sychronized to the speed of the prop. Very realistic > sounding. > > Electric car manufacturers could do the same thing. Imagine your Chevy > Volt > > with the digitized exhaust note of a Ferrari. :-) > > In fact the guvment make make the car manufacturers do something like this. > One of the big complaints with electric vehicles is that pedestrians can't > hear them coming as well as gas or diesel powered vehicles. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >I have never driven an electric car, so I can't say from experience. And > a > > part of the sensory experience of driving is listening to a nice sounding > > exhaust note............ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:34:36 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 22:34:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: References: <00da01cc0de3$6b5d5dc0$42181940$@rr.com> <675581257.305774.1304903921332.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: The Tesla works because they use expensive Li-ion batteries. They are much lighter and last longer than lead acid, NiCd or NiMh. If I was going to convert a midget to electric I think NiMh batteries would make a good compromise between weight and cost. Steve On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > This is an interesting topic, I noticed those specs also and wondered if > there was a more efficient way to approach a project like that. Our cars > are > too heavy, the kits are too inefficient. > > Did anyone see the segment on the Tesla the other day on speed channel? My > brother-in-law just moved to LA to design for Tesla (he does interiors). > After being out of work in Detroit he took the job and loves it but he is > not a "mechanical car guy" and he can't afford a Tesla ether. > > The way Tesla builds the rotor and stator is amazing and the chassis is > aluminum with a carbon fiber body. They said they get 245 miles on a charge > : ) Too bad 200K price tag : ( > > Lin > > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > But the downside is > > > > QUOTE: > > Car specs > > Range: 25 to 30 miles > > Top speed: 65 mph+ > > Recharge time: 6 to 8 hours > > Weight: 2300 lbs. > > UNQUOTE: > > > > Sadly, most of us couldn't get to Work and back! > > But his implemntation is nice.. > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > DN06ig Richland, WA > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > > '65 Sprite - in process > > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Seippel" > > > > http://www.acterra.org/ev/ > > > > Been done already. - Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 9 20:35:08 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 02:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim In-Reply-To: <5FF04CFC-88E0-45FD-B77D-B0A048CD9811@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1228463536.1967669.1304994908222.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I think I used baby oil and a lot of patience. Turn the windscreen upside down, fill the track with oil, and slide away. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Power" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 6:59:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim Any suggestions on how to get the rubber trim piece in place that goes between the windshield and the body.I have tried soap and water and sliding it on to no avail. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon May 9 20:41:07 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 02:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1891416441.130352.1304995267605.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> A guy near me did this: http://www.botsrule.com/Earth/Midget/Midget.htm I haven't seen it but I plan to this summer Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Guterman" To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 10:34:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) The Tesla works because they use expensive Li-ion batteries. They are much lighter and last longer than lead acid, NiCd or NiMh. If I was going to convert a midget to electric I think NiMh batteries would make a good compromise between weight and cost. Steve On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > This is an interesting topic, I noticed those specs also and wondered if > there was a more efficient way to approach a project like that. Our cars > are > too heavy, the kits are too inefficient. > > Did anyone see the segment on the Tesla the other day on speed channel? My > brother-in-law just moved to LA to design for Tesla (he does interiors). > After being out of work in Detroit he took the job and loves it but he is > not a "mechanical car guy" and he can't afford a Tesla ether. > > The way Tesla builds the rotor and stator is amazing and the chassis is > aluminum with a carbon fiber body. They said they get 245 miles on a charge > : ) Too bad 200K price tag : ( > > Lin > > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > But the downside is > > > > QUOTE: > > Car specs > > Range: 25 to 30 miles > > Top speed: 65 mph+ > > Recharge time: 6 to 8 hours > > Weight: 2300 lbs. > > UNQUOTE: > > > > Sadly, most of us couldn't get to Work and back! > > But his implemntation is nice.. > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > DN06ig Richland, WA > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > > '65 Sprite - in process > > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Seippel" > > > > http://www.acterra.org/ev/ > > > > Been done already. - Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From jfishbein at snet.net Mon May 9 20:44:48 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Roll Bar in Mobile, AL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <382273.16593.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I want a Studebacker with a roll bar. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: derf At Barry's UPullIt in Mobile, AL there is a 71 MGB carcass with a roll bar in it. I also saw a Studebaker, From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:50:27 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:50:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Roll Bar in Mobile, AL In-Reply-To: <382273.16593.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <382273.16593.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can probably fit the bar from the MGB in the Stude. It was a 4 door and someone already got the grille thing. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Jay wrote: > I want a Studebacker with a roll bar. From kmappley at gmail.com Mon May 9 20:56:52 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:56:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re ect Renewable energy(way off topic) Message-ID: Point well taken, Jim, concerning Germanys power usage. I should have done some home work before my rant. I was going on info from a glowing TV report during japan's accident. Could'nt help but notice that Germanys use of alternative energy appears to be a lot higher than ours. As mentioned my interest was mainly in small hydro. Within a 200 mile radius of me I'll bet there is 20 megawatt's of potential hydro power going to waste. This is at flood control dams and old municipal hydro dams. Dams that had all there machinery intact till it looked as if small producers could take them over and put them back in operation. In the 70's of course. When this threat came along the power monopoly scrapped them. I have no love for big power or big business. They are ruthlessly efficient at one thing. Lining there pockets. I agree that one has to go slowly for consideration of the economy so lets start by ceasing the payment of power companys for there nuclear waste. My power comes from a monopoly that gets to buy a share of its power from the WAPA dams on the Missouri river. This power has been priced so low that the US goverment (us) will never be payed for the dams or the upkeep. Lets raise the price. I'm sure there are many other deals that smell as sweet. As to us getting nuclear, it appears that Newt Gingrich will be a serious competitor for the White House next year and I know that he is for nuclear 100%. Obama has, as mentioned, OKed one and there are 20 more waiting for approval. Time to get back on topic !? Kurt. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 9 21:00:35 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:00:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Who own's Bugzuki Bugeye and what is under the hood? Message-ID: List, I was just thumbing through photos on www.sprite-midgetclub.com and wanted to know who owns Bugzuki Bugeye and what kind of motor is that? It's pretty cool : ) Lin Motor: http://www.team.net/the-local/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=32&sort_mode=created_desc&imageId=607&scalesize=0 Bugeye: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/2610308529/in/set-72157605810006144/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 9 21:01:59 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:01:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No.L.B.C In-Reply-To: <634956.6446.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <634956.6446.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: : ) On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, charles christ wrote: > TICKLE! > > chuck > frank would be proud! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Greg Higgins > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 7:50:51 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] No.L.B.C > > test > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 9 21:24:11 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:24:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING: LBC content - hood front bar dimensions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick what bar are you referring to? Lin On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I know Frank kept this info and would answer whoever asked so hopefully > someone out there saved it. > What size metal bar for the front of a MK1 or MK2 hood and what's a good > source? > What kind of steel works best? > > Rick B. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From millerls at ado13.com Mon May 9 21:57:15 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:57:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Who own's Bugzuki Bugeye and what is under the hood? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60488561-41AB-48A2-8A1D-E79DA374645D@ado13.com> That would be me. Suzuki Swift 1300cc twin cam with twin weber side drafts. An easy 8500+ RPM and about 7 seconds 0-60. The Suzuki Swift 0-60 time was about 8 seconds. Larry Miller From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon May 9 21:58:09 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:58:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding In-Reply-To: References: <2CDA2B0A-072A-4D06-9D6B-9ABA149D3C3D@comcast.net> Message-ID: One way to "power bleed" is to find a rubber stopper that fits tightly over the master cylinder fill hole. You then drill a hole in the stopper such that you can fit it to an air blow gun attachment. Fire up the compressor and set the regulator to a few psi. Check the master fluid level often as you proceed. Worked for me. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steven Guterman Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:16 PM To: Jess Power Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brake bleeding Bleeding the brakes can be a PITA. If you bench bleed the master then you have less air to remove form the lines. Unless of course if you have a power bleeder than it makes little difference. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Jess Power wrote: > Is it necessary to bench bleed a new master cylinder that only has a single > line coming out to work on all 4 brakes? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon May 9 22:59:54 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield seal Message-ID: <732439.26643.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jess, Real easy if you take off the side piece. 3-4 Screws hold it on and in my case came apart real easy. A little dishwasher soap and seals slide right in. BTW those are not Phillips Screws in there but PosiDrive Screws. Don't try a Phillips or you will strip out. You can find a PosiDrive Bit in one of those 100 different screwdriver bit assortments kits. I found one for $14.95 at local ACE Hardware. Reinstall tip, I cut a slot in the shims that go between the body and the windshield posts. You can get the bolts started that way and simply slip the shims in before tightening down. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 23:18:27 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 00:18:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles--and IS 710 In-Reply-To: <004001cc0e9e$55542020$fffc6060$@net> References: <004001cc0e9e$55542020$fffc6060$@net> Message-ID: 710? I have one of those on my Chevy!! I always wondered what it was for... sitting there on one side of the engine... Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Robert Evans wrote: > Kate wrote: "I'm afraid that I would not feel very smart driving a Smart > car between a pair of 100,000+ pound tractor trailers, not matter how much > safety equipment it came with." > > > > Oh, Kate, that would be a piece of cake compared to driving my Sprite on > Interstate 710 between the Port of Long Beach and the railway yards in Los > Angeles. You see, more cargo and containers move through the Port of Long > Beach (and Los Angeles) than any other United States Port, and that means > the 710 is also the most heavily traveled route of 18-wheelers in America > (and perhaps the world if decade-old records still hold). > > > > I'll tell you that in a Sprite and on a scale of 1-10, that stretch has a > Pucker Factor of about 20!!!!!! (And can quickly recolor your seat > upholstery.) Those 18-wheel suckers respect each other, and are accustomed > to getting their own way. They can't even SEE a Sprite among all that > horsepower. Pam refuses to ride in the Sprite if I am going anywhere near > the 710!!!!! > > > > Let's, Billy and Paul can pretty well attest to the Lions and Early > Christians nature of the 710! > > > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 9 23:36:29 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 00:36:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim In-Reply-To: <1228463536.1967669.1304994908222.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <5FF04CFC-88E0-45FD-B77D-B0A048CD9811@comcast.net> <1228463536.1967669.1304994908222.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Not that hard... I replaced mine a few years ago and I don't even remember how I did it. I do know I didn't use any liquid.... Perhaps it was a vocabulary thing... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:35 PM, wrote: > I think I used baby oil and a lot of patience. Turn the windscreen upside > down, fill the track with oil, and slide away. > > Kate > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jess Power" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 6:59:46 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim > > Any suggestions on how to get the rubber trim piece in place that > goes between the windshield and the body.I have tried soap and water > and sliding it on to no avail. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 10 03:56:09 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 05:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steel fuel line flair for new pump. Message-ID: List, I'm finally getting to installing my Facet fuel pump I brought although as I recall Frank put a small flair on the steel line, am I correct? I t would probably be easier to just buy a new line cut & flair but out of respect for the Hero of all Spridgets, Frank I have a hard time placing an order with Moss. What are you guys doing? Lin I've got one of these and I suspect a small flair is to keep the rubber fuel line on along with a clamp. *http://tinyurl.com/4xhpjcd* From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 10 04:11:58 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 06:11:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces is for sale on eBay Message-ID: Pieces is for sale. *http://tinyurl.com/3sp9mfk Lin * From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 10 04:16:58 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 06:16:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles--and IS 710 In-Reply-To: <004001cc0e9e$55542020$fffc6060$@net> References: <004001cc0e9e$55542020$fffc6060$@net> Message-ID: "And can quickly recolor your seat upholstery" Buster you crack me up ; ) Lin On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Robert Evans wrote: > Kate wrote: "I'm afraid that I would not feel very smart driving a Smart > car between a pair of 100,000+ pound tractor trailers, not matter how much > safety equipment it came with." > > > > Oh, Kate, that would be a piece of cake compared to driving my Sprite on > Interstate 710 between the Port of Long Beach and the railway yards in Los > Angeles. You see, more cargo and containers move through the Port of Long > Beach (and Los Angeles) than any other United States Port, and that means > the 710 is also the most heavily traveled route of 18-wheelers in America > (and perhaps the world if decade-old records still hold). > > > > I'll tell you that in a Sprite and on a scale of 1-10, that stretch has a > Pucker Factor of about 20!!!!!! (And can quickly recolor your seat > upholstery.) Those 18-wheel suckers respect each other, and are accustomed > to getting their own way. They can't even SEE a Sprite among all that > horsepower. Pam refuses to ride in the Sprite if I am going anywhere near > the 710!!!!! > > > > Let's, Billy and Paul can pretty well attest to the Lions and Early > Christians nature of the 710! > > > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 10 04:20:19 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 06:20:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Little Sprite Franks kitten is growing up nicely. Message-ID: List, As I read posts here I often cry thinking of our dear friend Frank, I wanted you all to know his little kitten Sprite is growing up nicely. She is very very funny and sweet just like Frank : ) I am very grateful to have her in my life, thank you Clarici family. Lin From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Tue May 10 04:36:04 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:36:04 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING on topic question - fuel gauage Message-ID: My FROGEYE fuel gauge doesn't work, Probably the gauge as it was wired to positive ground when stupid PO connected a new battery with NEG ground, However it could also be the sender unit in the tank or both . Ebay UK are selling new sender units for early and later midgets at about #18 ( 28 dollars or so ) Would one of these fit - would I need a different (smiths ) gauge - would I need a voltage stabiliser ? i have a gauge from a 72 midget I could use ? I''m not worried about originality - I have just fitted - (and its working ) - an electronic rev counter from a midget. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue May 10 05:28:07 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 04:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [pmgcboard] Brits at the Village- Info.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90009.87266.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It will be brought up at this Friday's LI MG Club meeting too. I already passed it along to the club prez. Thanks Larry. - David ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Macy Larry Cc: Spridgets net Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 8:54:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [pmgcboard] Brits at the Village- Info.. on my calendar thanks Larry On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > This is for my club's local show. Peddlers village is a cool shopping place > and ait is usually a wonderful day for spouses and car owners. > > See ya there. > > Larry > > > >____________________________________________________________________________ ______________ >_ > > > > Hello "British Car Enthusiast" > > Thank You for attending our "All British Car and Bike Show" in previous > years! > > Please join us again this coming October 8th, 2011. > > > > "Brits at the Village" Peddler's Village / Lahaska, PA. - Saturday, > October 8, 2011 > > The Philadelphia MG Club, Inc. is presenting our Fifteenth Annual All > British Car & Bike Show. Last year we started what will be new feature for > the Brits Car & bike show. A "Featured Marque" and this year the MG MIDGET > all models all years. "Brits at The Village" is a Popular Vote Awards Show. > Classes are determined by pre-registration. Dash plaques to the first 150 > cars/bikes. A special award to the Club that have the most pre-registered, > so make this one of your Club Events in October. Pre-registration $15.00 by > Sept 24th. $20.00 reg. fee day of show. For more information call Bill > Hixson 215.932.0295 or Steve Harding 610.275.7960. For Registration Form > go to www.phillyMGclub.com to download "Brits at The Village" registration > form, or e-mail Bill Hixson MGBV6T5 at phillyMGclub.com request Brit's > Reg.Form. > > > > "Brits' at the Village" > > Bill Hixson -2011 Registar > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > Registration .pdf file attached > > > > > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy at upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. > - Edgar Allen Poe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue May 10 05:28:22 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 04:28:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1969 Sprite for sale in Corvallis Oregon Message-ID: <1A1D970968524AD4A7D9B41BE6C9DE8E@spider> Price has been lowered on the 1969 Austin Healey Sprite Roadster; $5795. In Corvallis Oregon. No financial interest. See details and four pictures at link below. . . .bill in corvallis http://www.97330.com/Paul_Scheerer_1969.html From clarici at verizon.net Tue May 10 06:57:11 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:57:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steel fuel line flair for new pump. Message-ID: Dad always used copper coil. I think we used a ice maker coil. As far as I know we never flared the end. We did start to use VW metric hose. It was a very tight fit and didn't require hose clamps. Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I'm finally getting to installing my Facet fuel pump I brought although as I > recall Frank put a small flair on the steel line, am I correct? I t would > probably be easier to just buy a new line cut & flair but out of respect for > the Hero of all Spridgets, Frank I have a hard time placing an order with > Moss. What are you guys doing? > Lin > > I've got one of these and I suspect a small flair is to keep the rubber fuel > line on along with a clamp. > *http://tinyurl.com/4xhpjcd* > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 10 07:18:25 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces is for sale on eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Pieces is for sale. > *http://tinyurl.com/3sp9mfk Hmm, he lists it as a 1967 Sprite, but it has triple wipers and is RWA. Did Frank shuffle his titles? I hope the once and future owners don't apply for a BMH certificate ;-) David L From clarici at verizon.net Tue May 10 07:34:52 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:34:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces is for sale on eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That car was great. I put many miles on it. The motor in that car was the best motor he ever did. Was professionally balanced and blue printed. Looks like the day we delivered it Frankie Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2011, at 9:18 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> Pieces is for sale. >> *http://tinyurl.com/3sp9mfk > > Hmm, he lists it as a 1967 Sprite, but it has triple wipers and is > RWA. Did Frank shuffle his titles? I hope the once and future owners > don't apply for a BMH certificate ;-) > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 10 07:39:41 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 06:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BMH Certificate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <897250.31758.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> An interesting information sheet, the importance of which has become overrated. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> I hope the once and future ownersdon't apply for a BMH certificate From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 10 08:02:42 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:02:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim In-Reply-To: References: <5FF04CFC-88E0-45FD-B77D-B0A048CD9811@comcast.net> <1228463536.1967669.1304994908222.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <9AF7FC2016534F688D7828677368FBB9@Home> Much depends on where you buy the rubber. MacGregor's seems to be the prefered source for rubber. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 10 08:28:09 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 07:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] HS-2 Air Filters / Spin-On Oil Filters Message-ID: <248429.10032.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> This is a serious question. Does no one, or let's say few people, use the stock air cleaners in HS2 carbs? I ask this because I listed 4 NOS British Leyland air filters in ebay for $20.00 and didn't get one bid. That's $5.00 each on an item that Moss sells for $15.00. I thought that was a great deal. http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29282 Item 950-760 I did a similar auction with factory British Leyland spin on oil filters, and there's no bids in that auction either. ??? I really need to get to the bottom of this. I haven't been able to get any sleep. My wife has sunken into a deep depression. And the cat is stuck on the top of the drapes. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From haynes386 at netzero.net Tue May 10 08:40:27 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:40:27 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim Message-ID: <20110510.084027.1851.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Jess- I just did this last night! I used silicone spray, my initial try was a failed attempt, but I found tons of gunk in the slot- spray the silicone down the slot and wipe it all out until your rag/paper towel comes out clean first. Then spray the T tab with the silicone, grasp the end of the seal with a pair of needle nose pliers (the longer the better) have a helper feed the seal in and keep the T in the slot. I put the edge of the windshield in my crotch and pulled with all my might, and finally got the seal in-not without a bit of pain, though. Be sure to wear a cup! After getting it pulled ~1 in past the end, I went back and pulled the opposite way to straighten it out (get the ripples out). Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:59:46 -0500 From: Jess Power Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber trim Any suggestions on how to get the rubber trim piece in place that goes between the windshield and the body.I have tried soap and water and sliding it on to no avail. ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dc94ec87ca7377adbst04duc From haynes386 at netzero.net Tue May 10 08:47:01 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:47:01 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Cowl seal and windshield posts Message-ID: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> As I said in my earlier post, I just got the windshield/cowl seal installed. Now I have a quandry about the seal at the windshield post. It appears as if I need to trim the 'bubble seal' off at the start of the windshield post, and the 'flap seal' off flush with the edge of the post with a bit running between the post and the post seal. Can anyone help with what to leave and what to cut, or am I on my own? BTW the 12G295 head is coming back from having 0.080" milled off today- looks like I'll be pretty close to having the MKII running by my deadline of Memorial day!!! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.netzero.net/freeemail?refcd=NZTAGOUT1FREM0210 From lbc77mg at gmail.com Tue May 10 08:56:40 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:56:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding In-Reply-To: References: <2CDA2B0A-072A-4D06-9D6B-9ABA149D3C3D@comcast.net> Message-ID: I agree. Filling the MC before installing it saves you a lot of pumping. Just remember to be gentle with your brake fluid. Bubbles are not helpful. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > Bleeding the brakes can be a PITA. If you bench bleed the master then you > have less air to remove form the lines. Unless of course if you have a > power bleeder than it makes little difference. > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Jess Power wrote: > > > Is it necessary to bench bleed a new master cylinder that only has a > single > > line coming out to work on all 4 brakes? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From grday at btinternet.com Tue May 10 09:12:04 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 16:12:04 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Steel fuel line flair for new pump. References: Message-ID: <7BA9F50DD3B346A5BED0358F5578F055@user8634b3d69b> In the past I have soldered a small bead around a pipe to ensure a good seal for rubber hose to metal pipe. If you hose will fit tightly over the pipe you have, why get rid of the flair? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "Spridget list" Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel fuel line flair for new pump. > Dad always used copper coil. I think we used a ice maker coil. As far as I > know we never flared the end. We did start to use VW metric hose. It was a > very tight fit and didn't require hose clamps. > > Frankie > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 10, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > >> List, >> I'm finally getting to installing my Facet fuel pump I brought although >> as > I >> recall Frank put a small flair on the steel line, am I correct? I t would >> probably be easier to just buy a new line cut & flair but out of respect > for >> the Hero of all Spridgets, Frank I have a hard time placing an order >> with >> Moss. What are you guys doing? >> Lin >> >> I've got one of these and I suspect a small flair is to keep the rubber > fuel >> line on along with a clamp. >> *http://tinyurl.com/4xhpjcd* >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 10 09:28:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:28:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steel fuel line flair for new pump. In-Reply-To: <7BA9F50DD3B346A5BED0358F5578F055@user8634b3d69b> References: <7BA9F50DD3B346A5BED0358F5578F055@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: We're talking less than 10 PSI. If the hose is a tight fit you can get by without a clamp. A nylon tie would probably work. Two inches of straight metal tubing and one worm clamp would suffice. A flare doesn't really do the same thing as a barbed connector. The angle is backward, so to speak. A flare also might make a sharper edge that may lead to hose failure. From pvanwig at me.com Tue May 10 09:43:15 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:43:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HS-2 Air Filters / Spin-On Oil Filters In-Reply-To: <248429.10032.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <248429.10032.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use a longer oil filter not the little LBC one. I can get # if you want I have one in the boot of the Met for the change over to spin on upcoming project. I use stock air filters but do not need any right now I have a couple on the shelf. Sent from my iPhone So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons) On May 10, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Jay wrote: > This is a serious question. Does no one, or let's say few people, use the stock > air cleaners in HS2 carbs? > > I ask this because I listed 4 NOS British Leyland air filters in ebay for $20.00 > and didn't get one bid. > > That's $5.00 each on an item that Moss sells for $15.00. I thought that was a > great deal. > > > http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29282 > > Item 950-760 > > I did a similar auction with factory British Leyland spin on oil filters, and > there's no bids in that auction either. > > ??? > > I really need to get to the bottom of this. I haven't been able to get any > sleep. My wife has sunken into a deep depression. And the cat is stuck on the > top of the drapes. > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at me.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 10 10:01:06 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:01:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HS-2 Air Filters / Spin-On Oil Filters In-Reply-To: References: <248429.10032.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use the K&N replacement elements for the stock housings (although my housings are no longer stock) on my 72. My Bugeye has the big K&N "Sprite" filter assembly, so no, I do not use any stock air filter elements on my Spridgets. I use Wix oil filters on all my cars because I have seen the dissection of the filters from all the major suspects and liked the design/price of the Wix better than the rest. David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 10 10:04:43 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:04:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cowl seal and windshield posts In-Reply-To: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> References: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, I haven't done this with mine just yet, but was advised by Colin Dodds to do it when you fit the windscreen back on the vehicle. Using a razor blade trim some off the bottom of the long seal a little at a time until you can fit the windscreen. YMMV.... I can picture in my mind how to do it and I have the old seal for comparison. They say you only need a couple dozen gorillas to get the windscreen back on! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > As I said in my earlier post, I just got the windshield/cowl seal > installed. > Now I have a quandry about the seal at the windshield post. It appears as > if I > need to trim the 'bubble seal' off at the start of the windshield post, and > the 'flap seal' off flush with the edge of the post with a bit running > between > the post and the post seal. Can anyone help with what to leave and what to > cut, or am I on my own? > > BTW the 12G295 head is coming back from having 0.080" milled off today- > looks > like I'll be pretty close to having the MKII running by my deadline of > Memorial day!!! > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.netzero.net/freeemail?refcd=NZTAGOUT1FREM0210 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 10 10:05:22 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:05:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cowl seal and windshield posts In-Reply-To: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> References: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, I haven't done this with mine just yet, but was advised by Colin Dodds to do it when you fit the windscreen back on the vehicle. Using a razor blade trim some off the bottom of the long seal a little at a time until you can fit the windscreen. YMMV.... I can picture in my mind how to do it and I have the old seal for comparison. They say you only need a couple dozen gorillas to get the windscreen back on! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > As I said in my earlier post, I just got the windshield/cowl seal > installed. > Now I have a quandry about the seal at the windshield post. It appears as > if I > need to trim the 'bubble seal' off at the start of the windshield post, and > the 'flap seal' off flush with the edge of the post with a bit running > between > the post and the post seal. Can anyone help with what to leave and what to > cut, or am I on my own? > > BTW the 12G295 head is coming back from having 0.080" milled off today- > looks > like I'll be pretty close to having the MKII running by my deadline of > Memorial day!!! > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.netzero.net/freeemail?refcd=NZTAGOUT1FREM0210 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 10 10:24:29 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] HS-2 Air Filters / Spin-On Oil Filters Message-ID: What is the part number on the filters? In a message dated 10/05/2011 15:33:28 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: I did a similar auction with factory British Leyland spin on oil filters, and there's no bids in that auction either. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 10 10:34:57 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spin-On Oil Filters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <443095.35214.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> GFE-139 ebay auction: http://tinyurl.com/43dfhrb jay ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" To: jfishbein at snet.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 12:24:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HS-2 Air Filters / Spin-On Oil Filters What is the part number on the filters? From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue May 10 11:36:26 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:36:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diesel Fuel Pump NO LBC Message-ID: <56F66C8DF90141AA9675BD64E131B30D@CGI.COMMTECH> I have a 16 gallon Diesel fuel tank on my boat that needs to be pumped out. It is about half full of old Diesel Fuel and probably water and other "gunk". It is in an area that is difficult to get access to so I though I would pump it out through the deck mounted filler pipe which is a straight shot to the bottom of the tank. I have a few spare cube type 12 volt pumps laying around, think it would be safe to rig one up to empty the tank without going boom?? Will these pumps self prime? Anybody have an idea what the lift capability is? I need it to lift about three feet. Thanks Mark Nashville From pvanwig at me.com Tue May 10 11:37:36 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:37:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Electric Vehicles--and IS 710 In-Reply-To: <004001cc0e9e$55542020$fffc6060$@net> References: <004001cc0e9e$55542020$fffc6060$@net> Message-ID: <02DC5D81-307C-4BA5-9D54-6DE1605EBBBF@me.com> Hell the 710 can be scary in my big black Dodge 2500 Crew Cab Long bed 4X4 Turbo Diesel five speed! Sent from my iPhone So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons) On May 9, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Robert Evans wrote: > Kate wrote: "I'm afraid that I would not feel very smart driving a Smart > car between a pair of 100,000+ pound tractor trailers, not matter how much > safety equipment it came with." > > > > Oh, Kate, that would be a piece of cake compared to driving my Sprite on > Interstate 710 between the Port of Long Beach and the railway yards in Los > Angeles. You see, more cargo and containers move through the Port of Long > Beach (and Los Angeles) than any other United States Port, and that means > the 710 is also the most heavily traveled route of 18-wheelers in America > (and perhaps the world if decade-old records still hold). > > > > I'll tell you that in a Sprite and on a scale of 1-10, that stretch has a > Pucker Factor of about 20!!!!!! (And can quickly recolor your seat > upholstery.) Those 18-wheel suckers respect each other, and are accustomed > to getting their own way. They can't even SEE a Sprite among all that > horsepower. Pam refuses to ride in the Sprite if I am going anywhere near > the 710!!!!! > > > > Let's, Billy and Paul can pretty well attest to the Lions and Early > Christians nature of the 710! > > > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at me.com From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue May 10 12:04:08 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:04:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) Message-ID: <4d7a01cc0f3c$a89ba9d0$0168010a@mail2world.com> Interesting that he converted a RWA shell to rubber bumpers. I wonder how (without the reinforcements, especially at the front), and why? He calls them "aerodynamic" but I know they add almost 100lbs to the car. With that little motor in there, that's lost performance. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net [ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net] Sent: 5/9/2011 10:41:07 PM To: an5.sprite at gmail.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net;Linda at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) A guy near me did this: http://www.botsrule.com/Earth/Midget/Midget.htm I haven't seen it but I plan to this summer Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Guterman" To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 10:34:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Renewable energy (here I go, off-topic with y'all :) The Tesla works because they use expensive Li-ion batteries. They are much lighter and last longer than lead acid, NiCd or NiMh. If I was going to convert a midget to electric I think NiMh batteries would make a good compromise between weight and cost. Steve On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > This is an interesting topic, I noticed those specs also and wondered if > there was a more efficient way to approach a project like that. Our cars > are > too heavy, the kits are too inefficient. > > Did anyone see the segment on the Tesla the other day on speed channel? My > brother-in-law just moved to LA to design for Tesla (he does interiors). > After being out of work in Detroit he took the job and loves it but he is > not a "mechanical car guy" and he can't afford a Tesla ether. > > The way Tesla builds the rotor and stator is amazing and the chassis is > aluminum with a carbon fiber body. They said they get 245 miles on a charge > : ) Too bad 200K price tag : ( > > Lin > > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > But the downside is > > > > QUOTE: > > Car specs > > Range: 25 to 30 miles > > Top speed: 65 mph+ > > Recharge time: 6 to 8 hours > > Weight: 2300 lbs. > > UNQUOTE: > > > > Sadly, most of us couldn't get to Work and back! > > But his implemntation is nice.. > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > DN06ig Richland, WA > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > > '65 Sprite - in process > > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Seippel" > > > > http://www.acterra.org/ev/ > > > > Been done already. - Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.ne t _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu . From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 10 12:22:50 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spin-On Oil Filters Message-ID: <14a8c.58e98e29.3afadc7a@aol.com> I was hoping they would be GFE1 with the magnetic trap. Will the GFE 139 also fit the Mini? In a message dated 10/05/2011 17:35:06 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: GFE-139 ebay auction: http://tinyurl.com/43dfhrb jay From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 10 12:30:08 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 13:30:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diesel Fuel Pump NO LBC In-Reply-To: <56F66C8DF90141AA9675BD64E131B30D@CGI.COMMTECH> References: <56F66C8DF90141AA9675BD64E131B30D@CGI.COMMTECH> Message-ID: You will have a very difficult time getting Diesel to go boom. (Don't mix it with fertilizer, though.) You need to look out for certain things that grow in Diesel tanks. If your tank is infected you need to clean it thoroughly and properly or you will have a very difficult future with it. I think it is some form of Algae. If it is not infected and seems relatively normal you can probably filter it, run it through a water separator, and use it. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 10 11:54:29 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 13:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding Message-ID: <67607.78b2a62.3afad5d5@aol.com> Or if like me you don't have a compressor you fit a bicycle valve to a spare master cylinder cap and use a bicycle pump! In a message dated 10/05/2011 05:03:11 GMT Daylight Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: One way to "power bleed" is to find a rubber stopper that fits tightly over the master cylinder fill hole. You then drill a hole in the stopper such that you can fit it to an air blow gun attachment. Fire up the compressor and set the regulator to a few psi. Check the master fluid level often as you proceed. Worked for me. From heard at datatrontech.net Tue May 10 13:10:42 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:10:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap Message-ID: <079001cc0f45$f54aecb0$dfe0c610$@net> Is there a vented replacement gas cap available at a local parts store for my '60 bugeye? If so, anyone have a part number? Thanks, Heard From biffjones at verizon.net Tue May 10 13:41:29 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:41:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap References: <079001cc0f45$f54aecb0$dfe0c610$@net> Message-ID: <56DEE6FC956D4594BF7721443EC9BEDF@dell1> Heard, Stant # 10623 chrome no locking or # 10491 locking type will work. they are vented. Or just ask for a Ford F150, 6 cylinder, early sixties gas cap. Stant #'s will be the same as above. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book" http://sprites2.homestead.com/ From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Tue May 10 15:19:36 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 17:19:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap In-Reply-To: <079001cc0f45$f54aecb0$dfe0c610$@net> References: <079001cc0f45$f54aecb0$dfe0c610$@net> Message-ID: Heard, 1965 Ford F100 pickup. I think it's Stant 10623. Also; Balkamp 703-1220 (Is for sure, I just bought one ;) Kevin On May 10, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Heard Saxon wrote: > Is there a vented replacement gas cap available at a local parts > store for > my '60 bugeye? If so, anyone have a part number? > > Thanks, > Heard > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ > kevinv1275 at gmail.com From miniac7 at aol.com Tue May 10 15:31:24 2011 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 17:31:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap In-Reply-To: <56DEE6FC956D4594BF7721443EC9BEDF@dell1> References: <079001cc0f45$f54aecb0$dfe0c610$@net> <56DEE6FC956D4594BF7721443EC9BEDF@dell1> Message-ID: <8CDDD70BF4E0353-1314-5C16@webmail-d128.sysops.aol.com> Or, on the other hand, if you decide to go in and ask for a cap for a 1960 Austin Healey Sprite, make sure to video the whole scene and post it on YouTube for some comic relief. It's always fun to mess with the counter guys. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: Biff Jones To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 3:41 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap Heard, Stant # 10623 chrome no locking or # 10491 locking type will work. they are vented. Or just ask for a Ford F150, 6 cylinder, early sixties gas cap. Stant #'s will be the same as above. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book" http://sprites2.homestead.com/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue May 10 15:48:21 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 16:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Valvoline Recycled Engine Oil Message-ID: Anybody know anything of Valvolinebs bNextgenb motor oil? It says that itbs 50% recycled oil. I got a coupon in the mail from Autozone for it, but I am really hesitant to put recycled oil in my cars. Maybe Ibd be tempted to use it in my lawnmower or snowblower, but not in my cars until I know a little more about it. I applaud their effort to recycle, but.... From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue May 10 16:43:10 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:43:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Valvoline Recycled Engine Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3992E5D45559498EBD88C8946DEC7544@spider> Used to be called Airplane (brand) Oil. Came in a 1-gallon can (at least) with a red DC-3 on the side. ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:48 PM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Valvoline Recycled Engine Oil Anybody know anything of Valvolinebs bNextgenb motor oil? It says that itbs 50% recycled oil. I got a coupon in the mail from Autozone for it, but I am really hesitant to put recycled oil in my cars. Maybe Ibd be tempted to use it in my lawnmower or snowblower, but not in my cars until I know a little more about it. I applaud their effort to recycle, but.... _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Tue May 10 17:43:33 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 18:43:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cowl seal and windshield posts In-Reply-To: References: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <4DC9CDA5.9000708@justbrits.com> << ...but was advised by Colin Dodds to do it... >> This one IS "safe to assume" [ I'm 'protected' ] that you MEAN KELvin Dodd as he & I have been 'pen pals' for a good number of years , JJ. He IS "Global Sourcing Engineer" for Moss and has been for quite awhile !! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 10 18:02:48 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 19:02:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Valvoline Recycled Engine Oil In-Reply-To: <3992E5D45559498EBD88C8946DEC7544@spider> References: <3992E5D45559498EBD88C8946DEC7544@spider> Message-ID: > Anybody know anything of Valvolineb s b Nextgenb motor oil? It says that > itb s 50% recycled oil. I got a coupon in the mail from Autozone for it, > but > I am really hesitant to put recycled oil in my cars. Maybe Ib d be tempted > to use it in my lawnmower or snowblower, but not in my cars until I know a > little more about it. I applaud their effort to recycle, but.... If it says Autozone, RUN AWAY! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 10 18:15:20 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 19:15:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Cowl seal and windshield posts In-Reply-To: References: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> <4DC9CDA5.9000708@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Wrong, Groucho.... Check out www.spriteparts.com.au/ On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << ...but was advised by Colin Dodds to do it... >> > > This one IS "safe to assume" [ I'm 'protected' ] that you > MEAN KELvin Dodd as he & I have been 'pen pals' for a good > number of years , JJ. > > He IS "Global Sourcing Engineer" for Moss and has been for > quite awhile !! > > Ed > 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com > 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com > Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue May 10 19:10:40 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:10:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OT waaaay OT Diesel mileage In-Reply-To: References: , , , , Message-ID: The biggest reason today's Diesel trucks and vans get lower mileage than those of just 10 years ago is simple. The POWER. 10 years ago most Diesel piickups made around 200 hp and 350-400lb/ft of torque. The 2011's are pushing 400hp and 800 lb/ft of torque. With a diesel the only real way to make more power is to add more fuel. Add an electronic tuner and it's easy to make close to 600 hp and over 1000lb/fT of TORQUE!!!! Amazing... Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > As far as having "different Diesel" I think it would probably just be > a matter of refinement. If Euro Diesel is more advanced and better, > then we should migrate toward it. If not, we should keep going and > save our migrations for something more advanced and better. > > They have Diesel race cars that are competitive. My buddy had an E350 > Diesel van that got 20MPG. There is no good reason we don't have many > Diesel cars to choose from that would get around 40MPG. > OTOH, many farmers and users of heavy duty Diesel pickups are getting > furious when they get a new truck that gets 12-15MPG when their 5- and > 10-year old trucks got 18-22MPG. Th > _______________________________________________ From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue May 10 19:15:34 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:15:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Cowl seal and windshield posts In-Reply-To: References: <20110510.084701.1851.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> <4DC9CDA5.9000708@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4DC9E336.1040609@verizon.net> On 5/10/2011 8:15 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Wrong, Groucho How DARE you insult Groucho that way - for shame!! CB From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 11 04:28:42 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 06:28:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces is for sale on eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Last year we saw it with a fore sale sign at the Brit's show and the owner, (an older woman) told me her friend was into LBC's but then sold her car so I suppose she lost interest. But as I recall she had some kind of knee injury also and had to pay out of pocket for the surgery which set her back financially. Wow if I had the cash I would buy it for the engine Frankie : ) But it would be a shame to take "Pieces" apart just for that great engine. I remember Frank had his eye back on Pieces (not part of the show but parked in the lot) but she wanted around 5K so he moved on. But Frank did look back a few times at Pieces. It would be nice if someone on the list buys her sort of to keep her in the "family" ; ) Lin On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote: > That car was great. I put many miles on it. The motor in that car was the > best > motor he ever did. Was professionally balanced and blue printed. > > Looks like the day we delivered it > > Frankie > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 10, 2011, at 9:18 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Pieces is for sale. > >> *http://tinyurl.com/3sp9mfk > > > > Hmm, he lists it as a 1967 Sprite, but it has triple wipers and is > > RWA. Did Frank shuffle his titles? I hope the once and future owners > > don't apply for a BMH certificate ;-) > > David L > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From heard at datatrontech.net Wed May 11 05:52:52 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 07:52:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap In-Reply-To: <8CDDD70BF4E0353-1314-5C16@webmail-d128.sysops.aol.com> References: <079001cc0f45$f54aecb0$dfe0c610$@net> <56DEE6FC956D4594BF7721443EC9BEDF@dell1> <8CDDD70BF4E0353-1314-5C16@webmail-d128.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <07f301cc0fd1$f5b96050$e12c20f0$@net> Actually, I did just that at the NAPA dealer across the street. But the counter guy was cool. Me: Do you have one of these. ( I hand him the old cap) Counter guy: Maybe. What's it off of? Me: 1960 Austin Healey Sprite Counter guy: Cool. Is it outside? Me: Nah. Trying to get it back on the road. Counter guy: (types the equivalent of 'War and Peace' into the computer while I wait, then shuffles off upstairs to fetch the part.) Unfortunately, he gave me the wrong one and I didn't notice until I got home it was not vented. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of miniac7 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:31 PM To: biffjones at verizon.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap Or, on the other hand, if you decide to go in and ask for a cap for a 1960 Austin Healey Sprite, make sure to video the whole scene and post it on YouTube for some comic relief. It's always fun to mess with the counter guys. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: Biff Jones To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 3:41 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap Heard, Stant # 10623 chrome no locking or # 10491 locking type will work. they are vented. Or just ask for a Ford F150, 6 cylinder, early sixties gas cap. Stant #'s will be the same as above. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book" http://sprites2.homestead.com/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Wed May 11 06:03:45 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 05:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Cap Message-ID: <95101.34795.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Do you have a 1/64 drill bit?? From lotuspilot at frontier.com Wed May 11 06:18:32 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap In-Reply-To: <07f301cc0fd1$f5b96050$e12c20f0$@net> Message-ID: <40317347.348947.1305116312965.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> In my experiences, NAPA guys and gals will usually try to locate the part or one similar that you can use in its place. Actually NAPA still carries some Spridget parts. It is the Autozone and Advance salespeople that do not have a clue and if it isn't on there pc screen, it doesn't exist. When you say Austin healey Sprite or MG Midget, many of the sales places will know what you mean. Spridgets were made in relatively large numbers. Actually, not very rare at all. Except for a handful - Sebring Sprite or WSM etc. Small town Napa or similar parts stores seem to be the best. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heard Saxon" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:52:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap Actually, I did just that at the NAPA dealer across the street. But the counter guy was cool. Me: Do you have one of these. ( I hand him the old cap) Counter guy: Maybe. What's it off of? Me: 1960 Austin Healey Sprite Counter guy: Cool. Is it outside? Me: Nah. Trying to get it back on the road. Counter guy: (types the equivalent of 'War and Peace' into the computer while I wait, then shuffles off upstairs to fetch the part.) Unfortunately, he gave me the wrong one and I didn't notice until I got home it was not vented. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed May 11 06:58:45 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 05:58:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap In-Reply-To: <40317347.348947.1305116312965.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <07f301cc0fd1$f5b96050$e12c20f0$@net> <40317347.348947.1305116312965.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4F579C6FF8F84022BCD5B3E7FB01F847@spider> NAPA will get a computer hit on Austin-Healey Sprite; not on MG Midget. ...bill in corvallis ======================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lotuspilot at frontier.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:19 AM To: Heard Saxon Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap In my experiences, NAPA guys and gals will usually try to locate the part or one similar that you can use in its place. Actually NAPA still carries some Spridget parts. It is the Autozone and Advance salespeople that do not have a clue and if it isn't on there pc screen, it doesn't exist. When you say Austin healey Sprite or MG Midget, many of the sales places will know what you mean. Spridgets were made in relatively large numbers. Actually, not very rare at all. Except for a handful - Sebring Sprite or WSM etc. Small town Napa or similar parts stores seem to be the best. Mike From miniac7 at aol.com Wed May 11 07:42:27 2011 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 09:42:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap In-Reply-To: <4F579C6FF8F84022BCD5B3E7FB01F847@spider> References: <07f301cc0fd1$f5b96050$e12c20f0$@net><40317347.348947.1305116312965.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4F579C6FF8F84022BCD5B3E7FB01F847@spider> Message-ID: <8CDDDF866EDC102-18C-1DA34@webmail-m031.sysops.aol.com> I you think this is a challenge, you should try ordering Mini parts. Whenever I go in for routine over-the-counter parts such as, ignition wires, dizzy caps, oil filters and such, I simply tell them it's for a '72 MG Midget. Howard Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 8:58 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap NAPA will get a computer hit on Austin-Healey Sprite; not on MG Midget. ..bill in corvallis ======================================= ----Original Message----- rom: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of otuspilot at frontier.com ent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:19 AM o: Heard Saxon c: spridgets at autox.team.net ubject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap In my experiences, NAPA guys and gals will usually try to locate the part or ne similar that you can use in its place. Actually NAPA still carries some pridget parts. It is the Autozone and Advance salespeople that do not have clue and if it isn't on there pc screen, it doesn't exist. When you say ustin healey Sprite or MG Midget, many of the sales places will know what ou mean. Spridgets were made in relatively large numbers. Actually, not ery rare at all. Except for a handful - Sebring Sprite or WSM etc. Small town Napa or similar parts stores seem to be the best. Mike uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From lotuspilot at frontier.com Wed May 11 08:04:00 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 14:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas cap In-Reply-To: <8CDDDF866EDC102-18C-1DA34@webmail-m031.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <559208715.350266.1305122640243.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I have to do the same for my '59 Series one Lotus Seven. I order 1970 MG Midget parts as I am running a 1275. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: miniac7 at aol.com To: corvallis at peoplepc.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:42:27 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap I you think this is a challenge, you should try ordering Mini parts. Whenever I go in for routine over-the-counter parts such as, ignition wires, dizzy caps, oil filters and such, I simply tell them it's for a '72 MG Midget. Howard Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 8:58 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas cap NAPA will get a computer hit on Austin-Healey Sprite; not on MG Midget. ..bill in corvallis From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 11 11:08:12 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:08:12 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding In-Reply-To: <67607.78b2a62.3afad5d5@aol.com> References: <67607.78b2a62.3afad5d5@aol.com> Message-ID: I like this idea!!! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 13:54:29 To: ; ; Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brake bleeding Or if like me you don't have a compressor you fit a bicycle valve to a spare master cylinder cap and use a bicycle pump! In a message dated 10/05/2011 05:03:11 GMT Daylight Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: One way to "power bleed" is to find a rubber stopper that fits tightly over the master cylinder fill hole. You then drill a hole in the stopper such that you can fit it to an air blow gun attachment. Fire up the compressor and set the regulator to a few psi. Check the master fluid level often as you proceed. Worked for me. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 11 11:50:50 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:50:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brake bleeding In-Reply-To: References: <67607.78b2a62.3afad5d5@aol.com> <20110511172851.5C51018787C@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Or you use what I used to use for bleeding my clutch (before I found an Eezi-Bleed on sale). An old 10-speed inner tube, cut about a foot from the valve stem. Use a hose-clamp to attach it to the top of the MC (after removing the cap), pour some Castrol LMA in from the open end, roll the open end and clamp it with a vice-grip, then use a piece of coat-hanger to suspend it from the bonnet. Pump enough air into the valve stem to give it the resemblance of a well-fed python, then wander over to the bleed valves and work your way from the furthest to the nearest and you can flush the system and bleed it at one go (assuming you put in enough LMA). When you are done, release the excess pressure via the valve stem, drain off the excess LMA, and stow it until you need it again. David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 11 11:57:29 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:57:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" NEWS! Message-ID: Hope you are all feverishly getting ready for the big party at Elkhart Lake like we are!! The two local hotels, Victorian Village and Seibkens have now opened up their reservations to transient visitors. If you don't yet have a reservation, you need to call ASAP!! If you have trouble, there is a complete list of hotels on the Sprite-Midget Club USA website under the "Midget 50th" pull down. If you haven't yet registered, please do so soon... < http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/preregistrationform.pdf> OR < http://www.preregistrationform.doc> Remember the price goes up on July first!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From pvanwig at me.com Wed May 11 11:58:03 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:58:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HS-2 Air Filters / Spin-On Oil Filters In-Reply-To: <1828938932.328734.1305043461842.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1828938932.328734.1305043461842.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <87471DE2-E3CD-4FD7-9FB0-9A7B42FE9978@me.com> WIX 515116 I think I ask for a old ford capri ? But I was holding the filter head in my hand. On May 10, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: Off-list I'd be interested in the make and number of the loner filter.. Thanks -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Van Wig" I use a longer oil filter not the little LBC one. I can get # if you want Paul Van Wig pvanwig at mac.com facebook.com/pvanwig "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne Remember! If you forward this, PLEASE REMOVE all email address history before you send it on, and use BCC when forwarding to several people at once. BE KIND TO YOUR EMAIL FRIENDS No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed May 11 18:22:58 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 20:22:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD02BBD3B@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Who could pass up the racing tradition of a stay at Siebkens'? Worth it... even for the anniversary of the Plymouth Reliant. JohnD www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com ..... Message: 9 Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:57:29 -0500 From: Jim Johnson Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" NEWS! To: Spridgets , bugeyesprites , sprite-midgetclub Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hope you are all feverishly getting ready for the big party at Elkhart Lake like we are!! The two local hotels, Victorian Village and Seibkens have now opened up their reservations to transient visitors. If you don't yet have a reservation, you need to call ASAP!! If you have trouble, there is a complete list of hotels on the Sprite-Midget Club USA website under the "Midget 50th" pull down. If you haven't yet registered, please do so soon... < http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/preregistrationform.pdf> OR < http://www.preregistrationform.doc> Remember the price goes up on July first!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson From refisk at chartermi.net Wed May 11 19:25:59 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 21:25:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... In-Reply-To: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD02BBD3B@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> References: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD02BBD3B@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Message-ID: John and I reserved the same room that Buddy Palumbo and Tommy Edwards stayed in in 1952. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... > Who could pass up the racing tradition of a stay at Siebkens'? > > Worth it... even for the anniversary of the Plymouth Reliant. > > JohnD > > www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed May 11 19:39:35 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 20:39:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Diesel Fuel Pump NO LBC References: <56F66C8DF90141AA9675BD64E131B30D@CGI.COMMTECH> Message-ID: <2419124499F54093AC8B382B4DC77D53@personal> Have done what you need many times. In fact in the old days in the engine room we use to keep a half filled 5 gal bucket of diesel to put our cigs out in. You can not light of diesel fuel if you try. Take some out back, wet a news paper and light. It takes raw flame and a bit of it. any old pump will work fine, we always used one driven by an electric drill. Now you know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Endicott" To: "spridgets list" Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Diesel Fuel Pump NO LBC >I have a 16 gallon Diesel fuel tank on my boat that needs to be pumped out. > It is about half full of old Diesel Fuel and probably water and other > "gunk". > It is in an area that is difficult to get access to so I though I would > pump > it out through the deck mounted filler pipe which is a straight shot to > the > bottom of the tank. I have a few spare cube type 12 volt pumps laying > around, > think it would be safe to rig one up to empty the tank without going > boom?? > Will these pumps self prime? Anybody have an idea what the lift > capability > is? I need it to lift about three feet. > > Thanks > Mark > Nashville > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1500/3630 - Release Date: 05/11/11 From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed May 11 19:41:57 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 18:41:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... In-Reply-To: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD02BBD3B@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> References: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD02BBD3B@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <006c01cc1045$c8813300$59839900$@net> John Deikis wrote: "Who could pass up the racing tradition of a stay at Siebkens'? Worth it... even for the anniversary of the Plymouth Reliant." Believe it or not, although not the "Reliant", back in the early 1960's the Plymouth Valiant was often seen entered in SCCA gymkhanas, autocrosses, and even local club races! (As were Corvairs and VWs.) The term "sports car" was very ill-defined back then! Buster Evans From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Wed May 11 19:48:12 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 18:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Air Filters for HS-2 Message-ID: <467592.13689.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jay Fishbein, Still have those HS-2 Filters .Mine need replacement on Bugsy.. From mark at bradakis.com Wed May 11 22:46:06 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:46:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Shucks Message-ID: <4DCB660E.4020403@bradakis.com> Stopped by the bank today to deposit some Team.Net donation checks. One of them was from Diane Clarici in memory of Frank. It's nice that I am a hard hearted bastard with no emotions whatsoever. And if you believe that .... mjb. From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 11 23:07:20 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 05:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Shucks In-Reply-To: <2089598784.352744.1305176777711.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1011629501.352746.1305176839975.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Yeah.... no feelings at all.. Right?? Sure! And I've got a bridge for sale.... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" Stopped by the bank today to deposit some Team.Net donation checks. One of them was from Diane Clarici in memory of Frank. It's nice that I am a hard hearted bastard with no emotions whatsoever. And if you believe that .... From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 11 23:10:21 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Shucks In-Reply-To: <4DCB660E.4020403@bradakis.com> References: <4DCB660E.4020403@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <857827.87724.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Yes....a large heart still beats in Toms River, NJ. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Mark J Bradakis To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:46:06 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Shucks Stopped by the bank today to deposit some Team.Net donation checks. One of them was from Diane Clarici in memory of Frank. It's nice that I am a hard hearted bastard with no emotions whatsoever. And if you believe that .... mjb. From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Thu May 12 05:41:04 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 07:41:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Vintage Race Cars Crashing Message-ID: After watching this video, you can see why there are not a lot of old race car drivers around these days. Greg Higgins Subject: Vintage Race Cars Crashing This is when racing was real racing and men were real men.... Or should I say "crazy" It is rather obvious that seat belts had not arrived yet. http://devour.com/video/vintage-race-car-crashes/ = No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1325 / Virus Database: 1500/3616 - Release Date: 05/04/11 I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter.SPAMfighter has removed 2560 of my spam emails to date.Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan! From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 12 07:14:43 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:14:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... In-Reply-To: References: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD02BBD3B@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <201105120614644.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I thought they camped...... Peter - At 08:25 PM 5/11/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: >John and I reserved the same room that Buddy Palumbo and Tommy >Edwards stayed in in 1952. :-) > >Rick > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:22 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... > > >>Who could pass up the racing tradition of a stay at Siebkens'? >> >>Worth it... even for the anniversary of the Plymouth Reliant. >> >>JohnD >> >>www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com >_______________________________________________ From jessmd1 at comcast.net Thu May 12 09:18:19 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:18:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes Message-ID: Ok I've been having trouble bleeding brakes on a 1959 bugeye.I bench bled the master cylinder and now the right rear banjo fitting is leaking!! It is not leaking from the bleed fitting but rather the banjo itself.Anyone know where I can find a new or used fitting?Should I try to just change out the copper washers on either side of the banjo? From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 12 09:35:04 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations Message-ID: <800189.53497.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Someone asked me for recommended suppliers for replacements floors. Are all the floors on the retail market coming from the same supplier? What is everyone's experience with what is out there as far as fit and accuracy of the stampings? Thanks, jay From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 12 09:47:35 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105120847186.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> It's unlikely that the banjo is at fault. The Cu washers should be the seal. They are 2 sizes. The banjos are also available new. The good news is the master is working... no? Peter C -- At 10:18 AM 5/12/2011, Jess Power wrote: >Ok I've been having trouble bleeding brakes on a 1959 bugeye.I bench >bled the master cylinder and now the right rear banjo fitting is >leaking!! It is not leaking from the bleed fitting but rather the >banjo itself.Anyone know where I can find a new or used fitting?Should >I try to just change out the copper washers on either side of the banjo? >_______________________________________________ From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 12 09:55:48 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 15:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1700885906.357573.1305215748528.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I'd try replacing the copper washers first... I've never had a banjo casting with holes!! (unless it's been 'tweaked' and fractured) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Power" It is not leaking from the bleed fitting but rather the banjo itself.Anyone know where I can find a new or used fitting?Should I try to just change out the copper washers on either side of the banjo? _ From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Thu May 12 10:19:54 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations In-Reply-To: <800189.53497.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1976470317.211404.1305217194703.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I purchased floors from Vicky Brit back in the late '90's and specified "No Oriental parts" and was supplied some very good ones that fit very well--good heavy guage. They had, as I recall, the British Leyland label on them. Not sure whether these are still available--that was a long time ago. --David C. THE SENILITY PRAYER : Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and The eyesight to tell the difference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:35:04 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations Someone asked me for recommended suppliers for replacements floors. Are all the floors on the retail market coming from the same supplier? What is everyone's experience with what is out there as far as fit and accuracy of the stampings? Thanks, jay _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From refisk at chartermi.net Thu May 12 10:21:20 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 12:21:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... In-Reply-To: <201105120614644.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD02BBD3B@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> <201105120614644.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <8BBF167819364C759429C465B7EC7CF2@RickPC> C type Jaguar drivers don't camp. You didn't read the book didja Peter? :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "Rick Fisk" ; Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... >I thought they camped...... > > Peter > - > At 08:25 PM 5/11/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: >>John and I reserved the same room that Buddy Palumbo and Tommy Edwards >>stayed in in 1952. :-) >> >>Rick From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 12 13:31:55 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 14:31:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Posting for a friend, NFI....etc. Message-ID: *Spridgeteers, A friend asked me about this car. I don't feel qualified to answer. It looks a little expensive, but without actually seeing and driving it I can't say or sure. 5,500 Pounds Sterling is close to $9,000 USD... What do you think? Let me know and I'll relay it.... Cheers!! Jim ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- * *I have been wondering about this car. It's for sale by a guy I know, who knows the guy who owns it.* *Got this infor** from the Irish MG Club's Website.* *What do you think this is worth if I were to buy it in the US, bearing in mind, it's a runner, but you don't know much more?* *How rare is that front end over here?* ** ** ** *For Sale* *MG Midget. 1275cc Red - Lenham Front End Conversion, Weber Carb, Minilites, - many performance modifications and new parts.* *5,500 or may P/x for MGB Roadster* -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Midget Irish.jpg] From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu May 12 14:50:36 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 15:50:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations In-Reply-To: <1976470317.211404.1305217194703.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa. mail.comcast.net> References: <1976470317.211404.1305217194703.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <63281.70.8.225.214.1305233436.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Me too! Also from VB and same time period. A caveat, however. Make sure you get the correct floor! The Bugeye floor has a flat area to which the floor mounted gas pedal is attached. If you get a later model floor the pedal cannot be mounted unless you get creative. If you have suspended pedal set-up it won't matter which floor you get. Dave W. > I purchased floors from Vicky Brit back in the late '90's and specified > "No Oriental parts" and was supplied some very good ones that fit very > well--good heavy guage. They had, as I recall, the British Leyland label > on them. Not sure whether these are still available--that was a long time > ago. > > --David C. > THE SENILITY PRAYER : Grant me the senility to forget the people > I never liked anyway, > The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:35:04 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations > > Someone asked me for recommended suppliers for replacements floors. > > Are all the floors on the retail market coming from the same supplier? > > What is everyone's experience with what is out there as far as fit and > accuracy > of the stampings? > > Thanks, > > jay From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu May 12 15:45:49 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 14:45:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Zinc, oil Message-ID: http://www.valvolinevr1racingoil.com/ -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu May 12 15:57:07 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 14:57:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes In-Reply-To: <709571.23351.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <709571.23351.qm@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Spridgetiers and FYI for Big Healey List Members, I just stopped by and spoke to Bryan Dornon, owner of Vista Brake Service & Supply, Inc. here in Vista California (North San Diego County.) If you cannot find someone in your area to arc your brake shoes to your drums Bryan does this all the time, and in fact he regularly gets jobs from around the U.S. This is one of the last old time brake shops, with great customer service and reasonable prices. The shop is also immaculately clean! I highly recommend them for any brake work and I'm about to take in my BN1 drums and shoes (new linings bonded on and arced to the drums) and a set of BN2 front brake drums to be done. Here's their information if interested... *Vista Brake Service & Supply, Inc.* Bryan Dornon 790 E. Vista Way Vista, CA 92084 (760) 724-5157 http://www.vistabrake.com/ Cheers, Curt On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: Curt, > How many shops do you know that still arc brake shoes? Arcing > machines were taken out years ago due to asbestos. I don't know any shops > around here that arc brake shoes. > Mike MacLean > > --- On *Fri, 4/15/11, Curt/Nancy Arndt * wrote: > > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brakes > To: "Peter Caldwell" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, April 15, 2011, 3:46 PM > > Listers, > > It's also a good idea to take your new brake shoes and drums into your > local > trusted brake shop, and have the shoes properly arced to the drums. Theres > not all that much adjustment on the sprite rears so this will ensure that > the entire shoe contacts the drum evenly, for easier adjusting and better > braking. > > Cheers. > > Curt > '55 BN1, '60 AN5:{) From jessmd1 at comcast.net Thu May 12 17:10:57 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 18:10:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes Message-ID: <10BCC77A-C4BB-4AEF-83DA-4E6F29DA7C2E@comcast.net> Ok it turns out that the brake line connection was leaking and running down the banjo.That's fixed and can't find leaks anywhere.Rebled the brakes a 4th time---- right rear,left rear,right front,left front.Now it still has a soft pedal to the floor once and then I have brakes.I've already adjusted the rear drums.Any suggestions? The mc has been bench bled. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu May 12 17:39:12 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 18:39:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes In-Reply-To: <10BCC77A-C4BB-4AEF-83DA-4E6F29DA7C2E@comcast.net> References: <10BCC77A-C4BB-4AEF-83DA-4E6F29DA7C2E@comcast.net> Message-ID: Needs bleeding or MC or wheel cylinder(s) might be bad. From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com Thu May 12 18:11:43 2011 From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 20:11:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Re_Renewable_energy_=28off_topic=29?= Message-ID: <91.EB.28813.1377CCD4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> The US had a program that was developing a nuke plant that would run of off spent fuel rods and weapons-grade plutonium. Kerry led the charge to shut it down. I was watching Nova and they said that a Japanese company (mitsubishi IIRC) had gobbled up the research and were planning on bringing it to market as a commercial venture. I guess it made to much sense to our gov't. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G ----- Reply message ----- From: "Steven Guterman" Date: Mon, May 9, 2011 10:26 am Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) To: "Kurt Appley" Cc: Agreed, The storing of the waste is why I do not like nuclear plants. The half life if plutonium is 250,000 years. All human written history is 5,000 years. No one has a clue how expensive it will be to store all the waste. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Jim--I meant to be just as hard on the D party. The same big money elects > them both!! > The fact is that there have been three fairly major nuclear accidents all > at > plants designed by the best and brightest who supposedly took every > possible > problem into consideration. As one writer said after the latest accident it > will simply be a matter of time before some country becomes uninhabitable > because of a nuclear accident. > Then there is the matter of nuclear waste. Something that will remain a > deadly poison to all life for tens of thousands of years. If the US > goverment [read that us] had'nt agreed to accept all nuclear waste in the > 50's there would have never have been a nuclear plant built! > BTW the US goverment [us!] are paying the nuclear plants for storing this > crap!!!!! > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 12 18:36:15 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 00:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <91.EB.28813.1377CCD4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Message-ID: <428620026.365396.1305246974954.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> We're not alone... IIRC - After WW2 the British Goverment didn't see much use for Sir Frank Whittles' Jet Engines, Decca Radar, and a few other things.. They went to Pratt & Whitney, RCA, Bendix and a few others. Maybe it's our turn :-( BTW - The British population had to raise money to keep the Hovercraft patents in the UK -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com I guess it made to much sense to our gov't. From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 12 20:45:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 22:45:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations In-Reply-To: <63281.70.8.225.214.1305233436.squirrel@wm.wi.net> References: <1976470317.211404.1305217194703.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <63281.70.8.225.214.1305233436.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Message-ID: Jay, List, I bought this one from a guy who makes them in Michigan same price $99. Looks good out of the box but I'll know more when I try to fit it on the Sprite. If I don't like the fit and I can't massage it to my liking I'll buy another set from Vicky (Frank's name for Victoria British). I'll keep you posted. Lin *http://tinyurl.com/3wo5vlz ebay # *200606770416 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, wrote: > Me too! Also from VB and same time period. A caveat, however. Make sure > you get the correct floor! The Bugeye floor has a flat area to which the > floor mounted gas pedal is attached. If you get a later model floor the > pedal cannot be mounted unless you get creative. If you have suspended > pedal set-up it won't matter which floor you get. > > Dave W. > > > > > I purchased floors from Vicky Brit back in the late '90's and specified > > "No Oriental parts" and was supplied some very good ones that fit very > > well--good heavy guage. They had, as I recall, the British Leyland label > > on them. Not sure whether these are still available--that was a long time > > ago. > > > > --David C. > > THE SENILITY PRAYER : Grant me the senility to forget the people > > I never liked anyway, > > The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > > The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jay" > > To: "Spridgets" > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:35:04 AM > > Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations > > > > Someone asked me for recommended suppliers for replacements floors. > > > > Are all the floors on the retail market coming from the same supplier? > > > > What is everyone's experience with what is out there as far as fit and > > accuracy > > of the stampings? > > > > Thanks, > > > > jay > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 12 23:03:28 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 00:03:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes In-Reply-To: <10BCC77A-C4BB-4AEF-83DA-4E6F29DA7C2E@comcast.net> References: <10BCC77A-C4BB-4AEF-83DA-4E6F29DA7C2E@comcast.net> Message-ID: There is still some air in there somewhere, somehow. Can the wheel cylinders need rebuilding? A leak somewhere else? Bleeding Spridget brakes without an EZ Bleeder is a female canine. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Jess Power wrote: > Ok it turns out that the brake line connection was leaking and running down > the banjo.That's fixed and can't find leaks anywhere.Rebled the brakes a 4th > time---- right rear,left rear,right front,left front.Now it still has a soft > pedal to the floor once and then I have brakes.I've already adjusted the > rear drums.Any suggestions? The mc has been bench bled. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Fri May 13 03:39:53 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 02:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes In-Reply-To: References: <10BCC77A-C4BB-4AEF-83DA-4E6F29DA7C2E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <700593.70801.qm@web112713.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> adjust the brake shoes . if you are getting a soft pedal first push then a hard pedal second push , it's transferring fluid from master to wheel cylinders to expand the cylinders on first push to expand the shoes outward , the on second push actually compressing fluid once shoes make contact with drums. test: pull on the emergency brake , then push the brake pedal. see if that improves the initial pedal "feel". if it does it al in te shoe adjustment and front adjustment will make it even better! check your adjusters for wear. the early adjusters once worn back of adjustment very easily some , will actually backoff when pumping the pedal sitting still in the shop before the car even rolls out of the shop! chuck been there , broke that , fixed it , broke it again , some day i'm going to get it right....but not attempting anything serious on friday the 13th! ________________________________ From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Fri May 13 06:16:44 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1758748626.251624.1305289004203.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> But be sure to stress "No Oriental Parts" when you order--order by phone so you can talk with someone.B Again, I'm not sure they still handle anything not oriental, but that's what I would do again.B --David C. THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people B I never liked anyway, B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and B The eyesight to tell the difference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: dwoerpel at wi.net, "Jay Fishbein" Cc: dlancer7676 at comcast.net, "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:45:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations Jay, List, I bought this one from a guy who makes them in Michigan same price $99. Looks good out of the box but I'll know more when I try to fit it on the Sprite. If I don't like the fit and I can't massage it to my liking I'll buy another set from Vicky (Frank's name for Victoria British). I'll keep you posted. Lin http://tinyurl.com/3wo5vlz ebay # 200606770416 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, < dwoerpel at wi.net > wrote: Me too! B Also from VB and same time period. A caveat, however. B Make sure you get the correct floor! B The Bugeye floor has a flat area to which the floor mounted gas pedal is attached. B If you get a later model floor the pedal cannot be mounted unless you get creative. B If you have suspended pedal set-up it won't matter which floor you get. Dave W. > I purchased floors from Vicky Brit back in the late '90's and specified > "No Oriental parts" and was supplied some very good ones that fit very > well--good heavy guage. They had, as I recall, the British Leyland label > on them. Not sure whether these are still available--that was a long time > ago. > > --David C. > THE SENILITY PRAYER : Grant me the senility to forget the people > I never liked anyway, > The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay" < jfishbein at snet.net > > To: "Spridgets" < spridgets at autox.team.net > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:35:04 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations > > Someone asked me for recommended suppliers for replacements floors. > > Are all the floors on the retail market coming from the same supplier? > > What is everyone's experience with what is out there as far as fit and > accuracy > of the stampings? > > Thanks, > > jay Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri May 13 08:08:47 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 07:08:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations* In-Reply-To: <1758748626.251624.1305289004203.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: , <1758748626.251624.1305289004203.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Anyone know if the floors for a '64 would fit a '65? What changed? BillM > Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:16:44 +0000 > From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net > To: grunthaner at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations* > > But be sure to stress "No Oriental Parts" when you order--order by phone so > you can talk with someone.B Again, I'm not sure they still handle anything > not oriental, but that's what I would do again.B > > --David C. > THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people > B I never liked anyway, > B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > B The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: dwoerpel at wi.net, "Jay Fishbein" > Cc: dlancer7676 at comcast.net, "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:45:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations > > Jay, List, > I bought this one from a guy who makes them in Michigan same price $99. Looks > good out of the box but I'll know more when I try to fit it on the Sprite. If > I don't like the fit and I can't massage it to my liking I'll buy another set > from Vicky (Frank's name for Victoria British). I'll keep you posted. > Lin > http://tinyurl.com/3wo5vlz > > ebay # 200606770416 > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, < dwoerpel at wi.net > wrote: > > > Me too! B Also from VB and same time period. A caveat, however. B Make sure > you get the correct floor! B The Bugeye floor has a flat area to which the > floor mounted gas pedal is attached. B If you get a later model floor the > pedal cannot be mounted unless you get creative. B If you have suspended > pedal set-up it won't matter which floor you get. > > Dave W. > > > > > > > > I purchased floors from Vicky Brit back in the late '90's and specified > > "No Oriental parts" and was supplied some very good ones that fit very > > well--good heavy guage. They had, as I recall, the British Leyland label > > on them. Not sure whether these are still available--that was a long time > > ago. > > > > --David C. > > THE SENILITY PRAYER : Grant me the senility to forget the people > > I never liked anyway, > > The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > > The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jay" < jfishbein at snet.net > > > To: "Spridgets" < spridgets at autox.team.net > > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:35:04 AM > > Subject: [Spridgets] Replacement Floors - Recommendations > > > > Someone asked me for recommended suppliers for replacements floors. > > > > Are all the floors on the retail market coming from the same supplier? > > > > What is everyone's experience with what is out there as far as fit and > > accuracy > > of the stampings? > > > > Thanks, > > > > jay > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Fri May 13 08:59:00 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 07:59:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <760A827A-68DA-4866-8DDE-1EE935967411@me.com> I am a little late getting on this subject but here is a little history. In the late 1950's early 1960's some of the top nuclear scientist and nuclear power plant designers were telling the government that nuclear power was just a stop gap measure to get us to the year 2000. That by then we needed to have developed alternative sources for electrical power. Of course this did not happen. Spent fuel was the big driver behind this position, it has been a recognized problem from the start. In more recent years an exceptionally safe storage facility was getting ready to start but many states passed laws prohibiting them movement of radioactive materials so it came to a halt. More over this meant that not only reactor facilities had to store spent fuel rods but other contaminated waste. This is (was) true for hospitals and any other facility using any form of radioactive material. The biggest salvation for the medical use is that scientist were able to come up with radio isotopes with very short half life's (hours). The horror reporters comments such as the one quote is one of the biggest reasons that logical, sane approaches and solutions can not get by the voting public. I am reminded of the editorials and cartoons a few centuries back when the first of some really big cannons were being built. These proclaimed that the noise from the cannons would cause the earth to split apart. How ridicules are we going to look down the road because we let horror stories keep us from finding and moving forward with good solutions. Just my 2 cents from being in this industry 50 years ago. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On May 9, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Kurt Appley wrote: > > The fact is that there have been three fairly major nuclear accidents all at > plants designed by the best and brightest who supposedly took every possible > problem into consideration. As one writer said after the latest accident it > will simply be a matter of time before some country becomes uninhabitable > because of a nuclear accident. > Then there is the matter of nuclear waste. Something that will remain a > deadly poison to all life for tens of thousands of years. If the US > goverment [read that us] had'nt agreed to accept all nuclear waste in the > 50's there would have never have been a nuclear plant built! > BTW the US goverment [us!] are paying the nuclear plants for storing this > crap!!!!! > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 13 10:28:34 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 09:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... 1098 10cc Motor for sale $50 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <553419.93031.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> If anyone needs one in the CT area, I also have one for sale which was removed from an Innocenti Spider so it has the different engine series numbers but it otherwise identical to those in Spridgets. Engine has been in inside storage and is not seized and was removed from a running car. $100.00 - This includes helping you lift it into your boat. jay ________________________________ From: John Felt To: spridgets at autox.team.net; bugeye at yahoogroups.com; sprite-midgetclub at yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 11:11:32 AM Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... 1098 10cc Motor for sale $50 I had a few people ask if I knew of any 1098 10CC motors for sale. I saw one and wanted to let the group know, it is frozen but $50 sounds reasonable. http://bugeyeparts.com/forum/topics/196566-ah-sprite-mg-midget From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 13 10:35:43 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 11:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: <760A827A-68DA-4866-8DDE-1EE935967411@me.com> References: <760A827A-68DA-4866-8DDE-1EE935967411@me.com> Message-ID: An excellent perspective on the *real* problem, Bob. I agree completely! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > I am a little late getting on this subject but here is a little history. > In the late 1950's early 1960's some of the top nuclear scientist and > nuclear power plant designers were telling the government that nuclear power > was just a stop gap measure to get us to the year 2000. That by then we > needed to have developed alternative sources for electrical power. Of > course this did not happen. > > Spent fuel was the big driver behind this position, it has been a > recognized problem from the start. In more recent years an exceptionally > safe storage facility was getting ready to start but many states passed laws > prohibiting them movement of radioactive materials so it came to a halt. > More over this meant that not only reactor facilities had to store spent > fuel rods but other contaminated waste. This is (was) true for hospitals > and any other facility using any form of radioactive material. The biggest > salvation for the medical use is that scientist were able to come up with > radio isotopes with very short half life's (hours). > > The horror reporters comments such as the one quote is one of the biggest > reasons that logical, sane approaches and solutions can not get by the > voting public. I am reminded of the editorials and cartoons a few centuries > back when the first of some really big cannons were being built. These > proclaimed that the noise from the cannons would cause the earth to split > apart. How ridicules are we going to look down the road because we let > horror stories keep us from finding and moving forward with good solutions. > > Just my 2 cents from being in this industry 50 years ago. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > > On May 9, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Kurt Appley wrote: > > > > The fact is that there have been three fairly major nuclear accidents all > at > > plants designed by the best and brightest who supposedly took every > possible > > problem into consideration. As one writer said after the latest accident > it > > will simply be a matter of time before some country becomes uninhabitable > > because of a nuclear accident. > > Then there is the matter of nuclear waste. Something that will remain a > > deadly poison to all life for tens of thousands of years. If the US > > goverment [read that us] had'nt agreed to accept all nuclear waste in the > > 50's there would have never have been a nuclear plant built! > > BTW the US goverment [us!] are paying the nuclear plants for storing this > > crap!!!!! > > > > Kurt. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From rdgard at cox.net Fri May 13 11:34:53 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 10:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I remember all my life that I was taught that the result of a N-War was that the world would be a waste land for 25,000 years or so. I have always believed that a N-Accident or N-bomb would lay waste to vast areas of the earth forever, because that is what "they" taught us to believe and silly us, we believed them. Fast forward to recently. I got a slide show of before and after photos of Hiroshima, showing the city bombed flat result of that dreadful day and now perhaps 50 + years later is a vibrant, beautiful, thriving city full of regular people, not mutants! People live around Chernobyl and 3 mile island! They have tour busses taking people to ground zero in Yucca Flats, Nevada for gods sake. Where is the 25,000 year devastation we were taught that came with N Power? They put Radium in our wrist watches to make them glow in the dark and people's hands didn't fall off. There has been talk about using those spent rods for other things, why not? If N can power a submarine for ever, why not cars? Or Busses or trains. I think everything we have today is safer than the state of the art safe design of 30 years ago, why not N-Plants also. We learn more each year and with each N-Accident. In Japan, as much chatter as is being generating among Luddites, they just are keeping people back 12 miles or so. It didn't wipe out northern Japan, More people are killed in the traffic jams of people getting home from the beach on a sunny Sunday afternoon that with N-Plants. Go figure! I think we should be told the truth instead of being told what each special interest group wants to spin to us. 25,000 years of devastation my ass! Donning flame suit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers, Bob in San Diego (near San Onofre N-Plants) Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com -----Original Message----- ************************************* From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 13 11:41:56 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 10:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Book - The Sprites and Midgets A Collector's Guide Message-ID: <314560.89242.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Eric Dymock's out of print book. http://cgi.ebay.com/Sprites-and-Midgets-Collectors-Guide-Eric-Dymock-/260781399753?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item3cb7c85ec9 Definitely worth the opening bid. jay From derf247 at gmail.com Fri May 13 11:51:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:51:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Modern Hydrogen bombs are something like 1000 times more potent than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri May 13 12:04:03 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:04:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also, Japan is not a good country to compare. The situation there is almost certainly worse than the Japanese government will admit. The facade they show the rest of the world is not how things really are there. For example, when dignitaries visit they arrest and jail homeless people so they won't be seen. They are reluctant to, if not defiant against, receiving help from other countries. WWII made them very sensitive to nuclear issues, as can be expected. From rdgard at cox.net Fri May 13 12:31:56 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 11:31:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> BFD, we do the same thing in San Diego. When important things are going on in San Diego, we round up the homeless and move them to areas that are away from the major roads where they can't be seen by Vip's or the visiting press. We don't arrest and jail them because that costs too much money. We just move them out of sight. "out of sight out of mind." bob Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:04 AM To: Bob Gardner Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! Also, Japan is not a good country to compare. The situation there is almost certainly worse than the Japanese government will admit. The facade they show the rest of the world is not how things really are there. For example, when dignitaries visit they arrest and jail homeless people so they won't be seen. They are reluctant to, if not defiant against, receiving help from other countries. WWII made them very sensitive to nuclear issues, as can be expected. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 13 12:39:02 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:39:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> Message-ID: What Derf said, Bob. Those first few bombs were not a thing like what we are using today. They were "atomic bombs". Today we have the hydrogen bomb. The technology has improved astronomically. Atom bombs work by the principle of atomic fission (splitting the atomic nucleus), while hydrogen bombs work by atomic fusion (combining atomic nuclei). The hydrogen bomb is hundreds or thousands of times more powerful than the atom bomb. The hydrogen bomb uses an atom bomb as a trigger. Cheers!! Jim - drawing on his physics education On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Bob Gardner wrote: > BFD, we do the same thing in San Diego. When important things are going on > in San Diego, we round up the homeless and move them to areas that are away > from the major roads where they can't be seen by Vip's or the visiting > press. We don't arrest and jail them because that costs too much money. > We > just move them out of sight. "out of sight out of mind." > > bob > > Robert D. Gardner > > Gardner Productions LLC > Film and Video Production since 1978 > 619-460-1000 > www.gardnerproductions.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:04 AM > To: Bob Gardner > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! > > Also, Japan is not a good country to compare. The situation there is > almost certainly worse than the Japanese government will admit. > The facade they show the rest of the world is not how things really are > there. > For example, when dignitaries visit they arrest and jail homeless > people so they won't be seen. > They are reluctant to, if not defiant against, receiving help from > other countries. > WWII made them very sensitive to nuclear issues, as can be expected. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 13 12:50:18 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:50:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> Message-ID: > ... Those first few bombs were not a thing like what we > are using today... And just WHERE are we using them today??? David L From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 13 12:50:39 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:50:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110513185040.PY86U.4347.root@cdptpa-web20-z02> Well besides the locations you mentioned, there have been a lot of tests elsewhere in Nevada, the Pacific ocean, and wherever in Russia and China they did tests, and those didn't produce too much of a problem. Have you seen the movie "The Matrix"? The premise of the movie is that there was a war and the surface of earth was wiped out, and there was so much dust in the atmosphere that there was no sunlight, so there was no possibility of solar power. So the machines took over and farmed humans to tap into the electricity produced by the human body. The Matrix itself was a big computer program that fed a consciousness into the farmed humans so they would think they were doing something rather than being stuck in a cocoon plugged into wires. Whether it is 25 years or 25,000 years, it isn't something that we want to happen, and as has been mentioned already a future nuclear war would be very much worse than what happened to Japan. Detonate 1000 big bombs instead of a couple of little ones and there might be a dust cloud that would obliterate the sun for a long period of time. Maybe we don't know what it would really be like, or maybe somebody does know. > I remember all my life that I was taught that the result of a N-War was that > the world would be a waste land for 25,000 years or so. I have always > believed that a N-Accident or N-bomb would lay waste to vast areas of the > earth forever, because that is what "they" taught us to believe and silly > us, we believed them. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri May 13 12:56:05 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:56:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> Message-ID: My point was the government in Japan is so worried about appearances that they will spend the money to arrest and jail the homeless. Also, the culture accepts the fact that homeless people are arrested and jailed to keep up appearances. Just think of the stink they would make if the homeless were arrested and jailed in SD. From grday at btinternet.com Fri May 13 13:19:11 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 20:19:11 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> Message-ID: <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) has announced that interstate travelers across the state's Northwestern region may soon enjoy smoother travel following the installation of a new Intelligent Transportation System (ITS). PennDOT says the region's ITS project will mostly be funded by the federal government. Features of the new system will include: traffic cameras, VMS and highway advisory radio systems on Interstates 90, 86, 80, 79 and 376 in Butler, Crawford, Erie, Lawrence, Mercer and Venango counties. Work will begin this spring. The completed system is expected to come online by mid-2012, with testing continuing into early 2013. What you should read into this is that every vehicle using it will be tracked, tagged and the owner / driver / occupants can be identified - but this hasn't been mentioned. Cameras now look from approx 1 mile away and front seat vehicle occupants can be seen and identified reasonably easily, even in the dark! It is up to you to decide if you think this is good or bad. Guy R Day From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 13 13:27:12 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> Message-ID: <835471.28417.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Coincidentally, someone came into my office with one this morning. I just quoted John Cleese and said: "We already got-one!" jay ________________________________ From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> To: Jim Johnson ; Spridgets Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 2:50:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! > ... Those first few bombs were not a thing like what we > are using today... And just WHERE are we using them today??? From hardy.john at cox.net Fri May 13 13:27:08 2011 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 12:27:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110513152708.ZAV1I.491727.imail@fed1rmwml44> In November of 1960 the last complete Sprite MKI assembly rolled of the production line. Car No. AN5-L/49584. ---- derf wrote: > My point was the government in Japan is so worried about appearances > that they will spend the money to arrest and jail the homeless. > Also, the culture accepts the fact that homeless people are arrested > and jailed to keep up appearances. > > Just think of the stink they would make if the homeless were arrested > and jailed in SD. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hardy.john at cox.net From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 13 13:37:22 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:37:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <3451271962031951768@unknownmsgid> > Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) has announced that interstate travelers across the state's Northwestern region may soon enjoy smoother travel following the installation of a new Intelligent Transportation System ... Too bad they couldn't get around to giving us smoother travel by finishing fixing the road surface! I came back from Jersey via I80 and it was horrible!!! David L From derf247 at gmail.com Fri May 13 13:42:07 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:42:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <835471.28417.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> <835471.28417.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is enlightening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 13 13:55:01 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:55:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: "the region's ITS project will mostly be funded by the federal government"... Glad my tax money is helping someone 'cause it sure isn't helping my area!! Why is it that "mostly funded by the federal government" has become synonymous with "free"?? Why don't they say "mostly funded by your tax money" which is the truth. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) has announced > that interstate travelers across the state's Northwestern region may soon > enjoy smoother travel following the installation of a new Intelligent > Transportation System (ITS). PennDOT says the region's ITS project will > mostly be funded by the federal government. Features of the new system will > include: traffic cameras, VMS and highway advisory radio systems on > Interstates 90, 86, 80, 79 and 376 in Butler, Crawford, Erie, Lawrence, > Mercer and Venango counties. Work will begin this spring. The completed > system is expected to come online by mid-2012, with testing continuing into > early 2013. > > What you should read into this is that every vehicle using it will be > tracked, tagged and the owner / driver / occupants can be identified - but > this hasn't been mentioned. Cameras now look from approx 1 mile away and > front seat vehicle occupants can be seen and identified reasonably easily, > even in the dark! It is up to you to decide if you think this is good or > bad. > > Guy R Day > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 13 14:09:10 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:09:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110513200910.1IOXN.66032.root@cdptpa-web20-z01> You'd think that Utah and Nevada would be worthless wastelands by now. > This is enlightening: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 13 14:12:40 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:12:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Here's the official web site from Penndot. *http://tinyurl.com/3qesn35* My guess is that it allows more traffic cameras so they can monitor traffic jams and bad weather. It also allows access to TV and internet sites so they can show the images from the traffic cams. This info is also used for GPS navigation thingies (technical term) like my Garmin. I have unlimited traffic updates, and that thing has saved me hours of travel in the past year, by routing me around traffic when I go someplace using it. Philly traffic is legendary. Now, if they want to use the things to take my picture, go ahead. I usually keep my pants on when I am driving. ;-) Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) has announced > that interstate travelers across the state's Northwestern region may soon > enjoy smoother travel following the installation of a new Intelligent > Transportation System (ITS). PennDOT says the region's ITS project will > mostly be funded by the federal government. Features of the new system will > include: traffic cameras, VMS and highway advisory radio systems on > Interstates 90, 86, 80, 79 and 376 in Butler, Crawford, Erie, Lawrence, > Mercer and Venango counties. Work will begin this spring. The completed > system is expected to come online by mid-2012, with testing continuing into > early 2013. > > What you should read into this is that every vehicle using it will be > tracked, tagged and the owner / driver / occupants can be identified - but > this hasn't been mentioned. Cameras now look from approx 1 mile away and > front seat vehicle occupants can be seen and identified reasonably easily, > even in the dark! It is up to you to decide if you think this is good or > bad. > > Guy R Day > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 13 14:18:22 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 20:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <591785386.375922.1305317795051.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1718888893.375963.1305317902718.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> 240 Squadron... I was there.... the commentators didn't exaggerate about the heat, the bang or the shockwave.! And I was there for three more!! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" gmail.com> This is enlightening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA _______________________________________________ From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 13 14:20:29 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:20:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> <835471.28417.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: WOW! It's amazing there's anything left of Nevada. I guess that's what that glow is near Las Vegas. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:42 PM, derf wrote: > This is enlightening: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8CZAKSsNA > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 13 14:20:12 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 20:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1354144601.376007.1305318012396.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Sorry ... forgot the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLFRIiflSgU&feature=related -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From miniac7 at aol.com Fri May 13 14:29:56 2011 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:29:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC> <3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <8CDDFC3A834B287-1660-30A19@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> Evidently, here in Virginia, VDOT is light years ahead of PDOT. We've had a similar yet more advanced system in place for a while now. Ours is the "Totally Intelligent Transportation System" (aka: TITS). Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 3:19 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) has announced that interstate travelers across the state's Northwestern region may soon enjoy smoother travel following the installation of a new Intelligent Transportation System (ITS). PennDOT says the region's ITS project will mostly be funded by the federal government. Features of the new system will include: traffic cameras, VMS and highway advisory radio systems on Interstates 90, 86, 80, 79 and 376 in Butler, Crawford, Erie, Lawrence, Mercer and Venango counties. Work will begin this spring. The completed system is expected to come online by mid-2012, with testing continuing into early 2013. What you should read into this is that every vehicle using it will be tracked, tagged and the owner / driver / occupants can be identified - but this hasn't been mentioned. Cameras now look from approx 1 mile away and front seat vehicle occupants can be seen and identified reasonably easily, even in the dark! It is up to you to decide if you think this is good or bad. Guy R Day Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 13 15:17:59 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. Message-ID: <1135dc.3f1951fb.3afefa07@aol.com> After my last trip to Penn state I learned to drive within the speed limit... In a message dated 13/05/2011 20:32:06 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: What you should read into this is that every vehicle using it will be tracked, tagged and the owner / driver / occupants can be identified - but this hasn't been mentioned. Cameras now look from approx 1 mile away and front seat vehicle occupants can be seen and identified reasonably easily, even in the dark! It is up to you to decide if you think this is good or bad. Guy R Day From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 13 15:20:21 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! Message-ID: <113790.518b31a0.3afefa95@aol.com> It's called the 'Nuclear Winter' In a message dated 13/05/2011 20:17:06 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: Maybe we don't know what it would really be like, or maybe somebody does know. From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 13 15:25:57 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:25:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <1135dc.3f1951fb.3afefa07@aol.com> References: <1135dc.3f1951fb.3afefa07@aol.com> Message-ID: <-7798017289733368552@unknownmsgid> > After my last trip to Penn state I learned to drive within the speed > limit... You would feel pretty conspicuous doing that on I80 across northern Pennsylrainia! David L From lmacy at mac.com Fri May 13 15:51:43 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:51:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <-7798017289733368552@unknownmsgid> References: <1135dc.3f1951fb.3afefa07@aol.com> <-7798017289733368552@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <682AAA29-BF66-40D2-819A-2890ECF844F0@mac.com> That and get run over by every mother in an SUV. Let alone the trucks!! Larry On May 13, 2011, at 17:25 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> After my last trip to Penn state I learned to drive within the speed >> limit... > > You would feel pretty conspicuous doing that on I80 across northern > Pennsylrainia! > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From Miniac7 at aol.com Fri May 13 16:00:16 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:00:16 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] High Point Sprite - Anyone? Message-ID: <6d6f.7ec045a7.3aff03f0@aol.com> I was in High Point N.C. last weekend and spotted a nice looking red square body driving with the top down, on what I believe was Main Street. Anyone from the list? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri May 13 16:22:33 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:22:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] High Point Sprite - Anyone? In-Reply-To: <6d6f.7ec045a7.3aff03f0@aol.com> References: <6d6f.7ec045a7.3aff03f0@aol.com> Message-ID: <9c4a79$c6m8i9@email.mtu.edu> I don't know where High Point is in relation to Deals Gap, but Killboy.com caught a red square body last week. If you visit his site keep scrolling back to see the whole photo set. Plus there's a "beauty" shot of the Spridget wheel cover. At 06:00 PM 5/13/2011, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: >I was in High Point N.C. last weekend and spotted a nice looking red square > body driving with the top down, on what I believe was Main Street. Anyone >from the list? > >Howard Collins Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 13 16:44:38 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:44:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <1135dc.3f1951fb.3afefa07@aol.com> References: <1135dc.3f1951fb.3afefa07@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DCDB456.8000407@tx.rr.com> I make liberal use of my cruise control when out on the highway. > After my last trip to Penn state I learned to drive within the speed > limit... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 13 17:28:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:28:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <20110513200910.1IOXN.66032.root@cdptpa-web20-z01> References: <20110513200910.1IOXN.66032.root@cdptpa-web20-z01> Message-ID: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, wrote: > You'd think that Utah and Nevada would be worthless wastelands by now. > D'ja ever drive across those states? ;-) Cheers!! Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 13 17:39:34 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:39:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <4DCDB456.8000407@tx.rr.com> References: <1135dc.3f1951fb.3afefa07@aol.com> <4DCDB456.8000407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: My cruise control is conservative.... Did yours vote for Obama? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:44 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > I make liberal use of my cruise control when out on the highway. > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 13 17:45:38 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:45:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > They put Radium in our wrist watches to make them > glow in the dark and people's hands didn't fall off. True, but the women who painted the dials died horrible deaths from radiation poisoning. You also have to distinguish between Hiroshima style devastation and radiation poisoning. There aren't enough nuclear warheads in the world to blow up the state of Iowa, but the fallout could cause wide spread health problems for a long time. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 13 17:51:14 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 16:51:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <20110513200910.1IOXN.66032.root@cdptpa-web20-z01> Message-ID: > You'd think that Utah and Nevada would be worthless wastelands by now. Pretty much. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 13 17:53:23 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:53:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: <20110513200910.1IOXN.66032.root@cdptpa-web20-z01> Message-ID: <4DCDC473.3060803@tx.rr.com> Yes, and my comment was a little bit tongue in cheek anyway. I've driven across parts of Nevada- from LV to LA and the other way from LV to St. George, UT. I've driven all over southern Utah and that is one of my favorite places to visit. The fact that it is wasteland is alright with me because that keeps the population down. I go there to see the scenery and be away from crowds. I was backpacking one time in a canyon all by myself and thought to myself that it could be weeks or months before another person comes through here. I came to a difficult section and wasn't sure if I could make it through there safely, so after pondering things and thinking that I don't want to be laying there injured for weeks or months, I turned around and went back. This was somewhere around 1995, before the time that the guy was trapped in a Utah canyon and cut off his arm. Since I've been to those places, and hope to go back, I did NOT want to see that movie. >> You'd think that Utah and Nevada would be worthless wastelands by now. >> > D'ja ever drive across those states? ;-) From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 13 17:56:21 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:56:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. Message-ID: <4DCDC525.9040902@tx.rr.com> If it did I would work it over with a pair of wirecutters! Actually I really hated to use the "L" word in my email, next time I'll say it differently. > My cruise control is conservative.... Did yours vote for Obama? ;-) I make liberal use of my cruise control when out on the highway. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3636 - Release Date: 05/13/11 13:34:00 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri May 13 18:30:30 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:30:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Friday the 13th Message-ID: Out for a ride in the 68, in the middle of the next town over, when the exhaust pipe drops off the manifold. Fortunately, I have the support strap on the pipe, so it wasn't dragging. I took it easy and drove it home. I left it running until I jacked it up, put a stand under the jack port, and then lifted the pipe up to the manifold, to keep the rush of cool air out of the head when I shut it down. All that said, with the pipe off, it had a funky "biker" roar to it, that would be a riot to have in Ft. Worth's Cowtown area, where all the bikers gather on the weekend. Once it's cooled, time to crawl under and fix it, as I want to enjoy the 70* weather we will have this weekend -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rdgard at cox.net Fri May 13 18:35:29 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:35:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Friday the 13th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <914E312171344392B98E92D242B8AC9B@OfficePC> "LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES!" BOB Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com _____ From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 5:31 PM To: Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [midgetsprite] Friday the 13th Out for a ride in the 68, in the middle of the next town over, when the exhaust pipe drops off the manifold. Fortunately, I have the support strap on the pipe, so it wasn't dragging. I took it easy and drove it home. I left it running until I jacked it up, put a stand under the jack port, and then lifted the pipe up to the manifold, to keep the rush of cool air out of the head when I shut it down. All that said, with the pipe off, it had a funky "biker" roar to it, that would be a riot to have in Ft. Worth's Cowtown area, where all the bikers gather on the weekend. Once it's cooled, time to crawl under and fix it, as I want to enjoy the 70* weather we will have this weekend -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: * New Members 2 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Find useful articles and helpful tips on living with Fibromyalgia. Visit the Fibromyalgia Zone today! _____ Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. Yahoo! Groups Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use . __,_._,___ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 13 18:41:29 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 00:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <4DCDC473.3060803@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <1144586146.379395.1305333689187.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> One of the best Utah drives is from Spanish Fork, to Carbon City, thru Green River, down to Dead Horse Point. Fabulous chaanges of scenery.. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJNoSHOV8" I've driven across parts of Nevada- from LV to LA and the other way from LV to St. George, UT. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri May 13 20:04:09 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:04:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic MGs on show Message-ID: <016a01cc11db$36cc2400$a4646c00$@net> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/8509729/In-pictures-cla ssic-MGs-on-show.html From kgrowler at gmail.com Fri May 13 20:10:25 2011 From: kgrowler at gmail.com (Kim Tonry) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 21:10:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... Message-ID: Rick Fisk wrote: <<>> Just don't wait up all night for Sally Enderle to stop by. She's in her 80's now... From refisk at chartermi.net Fri May 13 21:28:57 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 23:28:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't worry. John and I are both too old and married to try anything anyways. :-) Rick Sent from my iPad On May 13, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Kim Tonry wrote: > Rick Fisk wrote: > > << stayed in in 1952. :-) >>> > > Just don't wait up all night for Sally Enderle to stop by. She's in her 80's > now... > _______________________________________________ From billgilroy at live.com Fri May 13 21:48:19 2011 From: billgilroy at live.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 20:48:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. In-Reply-To: <3451271962031951768@unknownmsgid> References: <8A4B7FDD91474A2093413BE39155CCAA@OfficePC><3608CC91DABD44DAB358AA97841B5753@user8634b3d69b> <3451271962031951768@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Better food along I80. It is the worst in the nation. -g -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 12:37 PM To: Guy R Day ; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Information for Pennsaylvania Spridget users .. > Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) has announced > that interstate travelers across the state's Northwestern region may soon > enjoy smoother travel following the installation of a new Intelligent > Transportation System ... Too bad they couldn't get around to giving us smoother travel by finishing fixing the road surface! I came back from Jersey via I80 and it was horrible!!! David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billgilroy at live.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 13 22:05:37 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 00:05:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36AF5528CD23483EBAC08B23F4C1B96B@Home> > True, but the women who painted the dials died horrible deaths from > radiation poisoning. That's because they licked their brushes to keep the tips pointy - a mamouth exposure. Michael Rowe From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 13 22:08:14 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 04:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Midgets... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1293946084.381145.1305346094638.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> So much for my future hopes :( -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Fisk" Don't worry. John and I are both too old and married to try anything anyways. From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri May 13 22:50:56 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 21:50:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My BugNidget, NisBugidget, MidBugSanGet? Message-ID: Well BillM and I did some cutting today and bolted up a Bugeye bonnet to my 78 Midget. So now it's part Midget, part Bugeye and part Nissan. Once it's all the same color it will look a lot better. I have turn signals and light buckets, need headlight trim rings and rubber headlight seals. Lots of work to be done! This is getting to be fun! http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/25270/filename/bugidget01.jpg Rick (idget) Bastedo From robert.duquette at me.com Sat May 14 06:26:09 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 12:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <3065c9f6-9b57-ea28-d104-9d5823e278c4@me.com> Message-ID: I've spent almost my entire life downstream from a nuclear plant drinking tritium that is expelled into the river where we get our drinking water .. and I'm no brighter. Robert D On May 13, 2011, at 01:34 PM, Bob Gardner wrote: I remember all my life that I was taught that the result of a N-War was that the world would be a waste land for 25,000 years or so. I have always believed that a N-Accident or N-bomb would lay waste to vast areas of the earth forever, because that is what "they" taught us to believe and silly us, we believed them. Fast forward to recently. I got a slide show of before and after photos of Hiroshima, showing the city bombed flat result of that dreadful day and now perhaps 50 + years later is a vibrant, beautiful, thriving city full of regular people, not mutants! People live around Chernobyl and 3 mile island! They have tour busses taking people to ground zero in Yucca Flats, Nevada for gods sake. Where is the 25,000 year devastation we were taught that came with N Power? They put Radium in our wrist watches to make them glow in the dark and people's hands didn't fall off. There has been talk about using those spent rods for other things, why not? If N can power a submarine for ever, why not cars? Or Busses or trains. I think everything we have today is safer than the state of the art safe design of 30 years ago, why not N-Plants also. We learn more each year and with each N-Accident. In Japan, as much chatter as is being generating among Luddites, they just are keeping people back 12 miles or so. It didn't wipe out northern Japan, More people are killed in the traffic jams of people getting home from the beach on a sunny Sunday afternoon that with N-Plants. Go figure! I think we should be told the truth instead of being told what each special interest group wants to spin to us. 25,000 years of devastation my ass! Donning flame suit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers, Bob in San Diego (near San Onofre N-Plants) Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat May 14 07:19:28 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 06:19:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] value of our classic cars just went up? Message-ID: Picture at http://tinyurl.com/5rjgp64 A garage fire in Polk County destroyed three classic cars worth about $30,000. A garage about 100 feet from John Mack's home in the 16100 block of Ellendale Road caught fire Thursday, said Sean Condon, Dallas Fire Department spokesman. No one was injured, but the blaze, which Mack called in at 1:43 p.m., charred a 1959 Berkeley (only 666 were made), a 1962 Morris Mini and a 1972 Honda Z600. The cars were worth about $5,000 more than the 24-by-24 foot structure in which they were stored, Condon said. A cable with an exposed wire that was attached to a battery in the Morris somehow caused a spark, igniting the car, Condon said. The glass melted rather than shattered, which was unusual, then the fire spread to the fiberglass body of the Berkeley, which fueled the flames. Dallas and Falls City fire departments responded with 22 firefighters, three engines and three water trucks. It took about 30 minutes to extinguish the fire. ...bill in oregon From refisk at chartermi.net Sat May 14 07:41:31 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 09:41:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] value of our classic cars just went up? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D30BA9DFE49487B9182CA245740B2EB@RickPC> At least the fire department saved the slab. Our local fire department has never lost a basement. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: [Spridgets] value of our classic cars just went up? > Picture at http://tinyurl.com/5rjgp64 > A garage fire in Polk County destroyed three classic cars worth about > $30,000. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat May 14 09:17:10 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:17:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <245ADB27-5D93-4D13-BC4C-391C8C99A934@comcast.net> No, but you are heavier by 1/3... ;-) Lester On May 14, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I've spent almost my entire life downstream from a nuclear plant drinking tritium that is expelled into the river where we get our drinking water .. and I'm no brighter. > Robert D From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat May 14 09:18:24 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74244A5A-58F3-4EBE-BDCF-24E3306E31FD@comcast.net> ..and those cognizant about that did NOT wear their watches at night where the face of the dial might get close to their face.. Lester On May 13, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> They put Radium in our wrist watches to make them >> glow in the dark and people's hands didn't fall off. > True, but the women who painted the dials died horrible deaths from > radiation poisoning. You also have to distinguish between Hiroshima style > devastation and radiation poisoning. There aren't enough nuclear warheads in > the world to blow up the state of Iowa, but the fallout could cause wide > spread health problems for a long time. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 14 09:48:04 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 10:48:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... 1969 Sprite $500 In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: <4DCEA434.4000805@justbrits.com> Only Jeff Foster [60 miles or so ] and I'm pretty sure he's looking to move his. Or Leroy Valentine and he's about 50 60 miles further, I'm guessin ! Nebo is in SERIOUS 'boonies' !! River "flat lands" - LOL !! Ed From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat May 14 12:34:06 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 14:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] High Point Sprite - Anyone? Message-ID: <1cfa4f.7b922234.3b00251e@aol.com> Not me... In a message dated 13/05/2011 23:03:40 GMT Daylight Time, Miniac7 at aol.com writes: I was in High Point N.C. last weekend and spotted a nice looking red square body driving with the top down, on what I believe was Main Street. Anyone from the list? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 14 13:04:05 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 14:04:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <245ADB27-5D93-4D13-BC4C-391C8C99A934@comcast.net> References: <245ADB27-5D93-4D13-BC4C-391C8C99A934@comcast.net> Message-ID: So am I but I've never lived anywhere near a nuclear power station! I got older too! What's with that??!! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Lester wrote: > No, but you are heavier by 1/3... ;-) > > Lester > > > On May 14, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > > > I've spent almost my entire life downstream from a nuclear plant drinking > tritium that is expelled into the river where we get our drinking water .. > and > I'm no brighter. > > Robert D > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat May 14 14:56:47 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 15:56:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <74244A5A-58F3-4EBE-BDCF-24E3306E31FD@comcast.net> References: <74244A5A-58F3-4EBE-BDCF-24E3306E31FD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DCEEC8F.3030704@tx.rr.com> >>> They put Radium in our wrist watches to make them >>> glow in the dark and people's hands didn't fall off. >> True, but the women who painted the dials died horrible deaths from >> radiation poisoning. I have a couple of watches with the tritium tubes. As I understand they have a fluorescent compound on the inside surface of the glass and are filled with tritium. They aren't as bright as a good dive watch with good lume, but the tritium tubes glow all night and the normal lume will gradually darken over a few hours. The tubes are less than 1mm diameter, I can only guess what kind of machine it takes to manufacture them. I've read that the radiation in the tubes is very low powered and doesn't even penetrate the thin glass. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat May 14 15:35:58 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 14:35:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank would have loved this site--Made in America!!!! Message-ID: <01f301cc127e$ea5574b0$bf005e10$@net> This is a starting place to find loads of links to companies that still boast that what they produce, are "Made in the USA"!!! http://abcnews.go.com/WN/MadeInAmerica/ Buster Evans From robert.duquette at me.com Sat May 14 15:51:43 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:51:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: <245ADB27-5D93-4D13-BC4C-391C8C99A934@comcast.net> Message-ID: You got lucky! (Wasn't he one of the 7 dwarves?) Robert Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. On 2011-05-14, at 3:04 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I got > older too! What's with that??!! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Lester wrote: > >> No, but you are heavier by 1/3... ;-) >> >> Lester >> >> >> On May 14, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: >> >>> I've spent almost my entire life downstream from a nuclear plant drinking >> tritium that is expelled into the river where we get our drinking water .. >> and >> I'm no brighter. >>> Robert D >> > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 14 16:03:36 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:03:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: References: <245ADB27-5D93-4D13-BC4C-391C8C99A934@comcast.net> Message-ID: Oh yeah... Lessee... Lucky, Stinky, Mucky, Greasy, Lumpy, Crappy and Skunk. There. I think I remembered them all..... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > You got lucky! > > (Wasn't he one of the 7 dwarves?) > > Robert > Sent from my device that doesn't pay me to advertise for them. > > On 2011-05-14, at 3:04 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > I got > > older too! What's with that??!! ;-) > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim > > > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Lester wrote: > > > >> No, but you are heavier by 1/3... ;-) > >> > >> Lester > >> > >> > >> On May 14, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > >> > >>> I've spent almost my entire life downstream from a nuclear plant > drinking > >> tritium that is expelled into the river where we get our drinking water > .. > >> and > >> I'm no brighter. > >>> Robert D > >> > > -- > > Cheers!! > > Jim Johnson > > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat May 14 16:27:52 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1391386269.386589.1305412072367.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Reminds me of Ardell, Burnell, Raydell,o;? Lanelle,o;? Odell, Udell, Marcell, Claude and Clovis... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Oh yeah... Lessee... Lucky, Stinky, Mucky, Greasy, Lumpy, Crappy and Skunk. There. I think I remembered them all..... From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 14 17:12:48 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank would have loved this site--Made in America!!!! In-Reply-To: <01f301cc127e$ea5574b0$bf005e10$@net> Message-ID: <333369.26010.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I feel guilty about this subject. Like a lot of guys, I shopped price in the 60s and 70s, although this meant Japanese products rather than Chinese, etc. Often, you could get the same quality at a better price. American industry isn't entirely blameless, though. I grew up in a New England town that produced high quality shoes. If you couldn't get a job anywhere else, you could always find work at one of the shoe factories. South American buyers came shopping for used shoe machinery and the factory owners laughed over how they screwed these guys over on the price of worn out stuff. Turns out, the machinery was repaired and the shoes being sourced elsewhere sold for less than the homegrown stuff. Local folks lost their jobs and the U.S. factories shut down. Now, lots of people that would have been employed in one of the shops are surviving courtesy of welfare, etc. I don't know that we can fight globalization. I figured it was over when the American icon, Levi's, moved production outside the U.S. But if you want to buy an American jeas as your small protest, you can go here: http://www.gussetclothing.com/ I'm wearing 'em, they're pretty sweet. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 5/14/11, Robert Evans wrote: From: Robert Evans Subject: [Spridgets] Frank would have loved this site--Made in America!!!! To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011, 5:35 PM This is a starting place to find loads of links to companies that still boast that what they produce, are "Made in the USA"!!! http://abcnews.go.com/WN/MadeInAmerica/ Buster Evans Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 14 17:45:47 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 18:45:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <1391386269.386589.1305412072367.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1391386269.386589.1305412072367.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DCF142B.9010907@justbrits.com> << Reminds me of Ardell, Burnell, Raydell,o;? Lanelle,o;? Odell, Udell, Marcell, Claude and Clovis... >> Figures Dave, youse FORGOTS: 'Brindle' [ *http://tinyurl.com/3n3vvzp ]* AND 'Clevis' [ *http://tinyurl.com/3txobu5 ]* !!! Tsk, tsk..................... Anon From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat May 14 18:00:23 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 19:00:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... 1969 Sprite $500 In-Reply-To: <4DCEA434.4000805@justbrits.com> References: <4DCEA434.4000805@justbrits.com> Message-ID: I don't belong to any of the bugeye lists ... can anyone forward the original message to me so I can see what Ed's talking about? On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > Only Jeff Foster [60 miles or so ] and I'm pretty sure he's looking to move > his. > Or Leroy Valentine and he's about 50 60 miles further, I'm guessin ! > > Nebo is in SERIOUS 'boonies' !! River "flat lands" - LOL !! > > Ed From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat May 14 20:01:34 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. Message-ID: List, I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later Spridgets and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the new pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my arm so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump in position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are smaller than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up with larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for small hose? Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who would have that? If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. Lin My pictures: http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/location http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/placement From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat May 14 20:31:15 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 02:31:15 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank would have loved this site--Made inAmerica!!!! In-Reply-To: <333369.26010.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <01f301cc127e$ea5574b0$bf005e10$@net><333369.26010.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rick, You should not feel guilty about buying something made abroad for a lower price. The only way for the US to remain competitive in a global economy is to let the lower skilled jobs go overseas and force higher education standards. If we keep on protecting low skill jobs we will lower the overall standard of living. The problem is jobs moving overseas makes for great headlines and political rhetoric. The benefits of better training and higher education are well documented but it takes years to see results. Politician do not care to implement policies with long term benefits that helps the person that is elected 8 years in the future. Keeping jobs that require minimum skills and can be done anywhere in the world costs a lot of money with very little long term benefit and possibly long term reduced competitiveness. My 2.5 cents Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: HealeyRick Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:12:48 To: ; Robert Evans Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank would have loved this site--Made in America!!!! I feel guilty about this subject. Like a lot of guys, I shopped price in the 60s and 70s, although this meant Japanese products rather than Chinese, etc. Often, you could get the same quality at a better price. American industry isn't entirely blameless, though. I grew up in a New England town that produced high quality shoes. If you couldn't get a job anywhere else, you could always find work at one of the shoe factories. South American buyers came shopping for used shoe machinery and the factory owners laughed over how they screwed these guys over on the price of worn out stuff. Turns out, the machinery was repaired and the shoes being sourced elsewhere sold for less than the homegrown stuff. Local folks lost their jobs and the U.S. factories shut down. Now, lots of people that would have been employed in one of the shops are surviving courtesy of welfare, etc. I don't know that we can fight globalization. I figured it was over when the American icon, Levi's, moved production outside the U.S. But if you want to buy an American jeas as your small protest, you can go here: http://www.gussetclothing.com/ I'm wearing 'em, they're pretty sweet. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 5/14/11, Robert Evans wrote: From: Robert Evans Subject: [Spridgets] Frank would have loved this site--Made in America!!!! To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011, 5:35 PM This is a starting place to find loads of links to companies that still boast that what they produce, are "Made in the USA"!!! http://abcnews.go.com/WN/MadeInAmerica/ Buster Evans Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kmappley at gmail.com Sat May 14 20:32:57 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:32:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re RE renewable energy (off topic) Message-ID: Sorry to keep tis topic going but I find it hard to believe Bob Kerry or anyone else would pass on a way to handle nuclear waste. Id like to see the rest of the story. The only plan that I'm familiar with is the plan to bury it under Yucca moutain. That was stopped by an earth quake that did a great dealof damage to the facilitys. Mainly it made people think about whether putting this stuff in glass jars wrapped in lead was such a great idea if an earth quake happens to come along in the next several hundred thousand years! Glass is the only container that we believe will last and we are determining that from analizing volcanic glass since, as Steve mentioned, this stuff will be deadly for more than human history! I ahve no doubt goverment inefficency plays a part as well. South Dakota put the question of storing low level waste to a referendum and the people voted it down so the state in the pact that agreed to takeitwas Nebraska and where werethey going to put it but in a wetland next to the missouri river. Folks in Western So Dak had a much better site where Uranium was mined in the 50's and they wanted it! Kurt. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat May 14 20:36:09 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 02:36:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you can not get a 90 degree fitting you may be able to find a 90 degree street elbow and just screw the fitting into that. I placed my filter under the hood right before the carbs (but away from the exhust manifold) Easier to change and it will filter anything that comes from the fuel line. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. List, I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later Spridgets and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the new pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my arm so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump in position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are smaller than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up with larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for small hose? Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who would have that? If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. Lin My pictures: http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/location http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/placement _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From pchast at francomm.com Sat May 14 21:09:43 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:09:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. In-Reply-To: <20110515030536.9076B187871@autox.team.net> References: <20110515030536.9076B187871@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I think this filter is on the pump intake? On Sat, 14 May 2011 22:36:09 -0400, wrote: > > If you can not get a 90 degree fitting you may be able to find a 90 > degree street elbow and just screw the fitting into that. > > I placed my filter under the hood right before the carbs (but away from > the exhust manifold) Easier to change and it will filter anything that > comes from the fuel line. > > Steve > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Grunthaner > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, > hose never fits right. > > List, > I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later > Spridgets > and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the > new > pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my > arm > so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I > was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump > in > position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in > correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't > get > to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree > which > I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be > huge. I > also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are > smaller > than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up > with > larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for > small hose? > > Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that > came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I > remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? > Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who > would have that? > > If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. > Lin > My pictures: > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/location > > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/placement > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat May 14 21:26:44 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 03:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re RE renewable energy (off topic) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2020123792.389160.1305430004043.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Vitrification is turning a mixture of nuclear waste and sand into glass bloks. Not in glass jars wrapped in lead! The pilot plant is less than 5 miles from my house And we got more than enough sand :) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Appley" Mainly it made people think about whether putting this stuff in glass jars wrapped in lead was such a great idea if an earth quake happens to come along in the next several hundred thousand years! From jfishbein at snet.net Sat May 14 21:55:16 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 20:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' Message-ID: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I think we have at least two Saab owners here on the list, maybe more. I have a copy of the Saab-Scania Story. Hardcover. It's not autographed or anything, but it's free to anyone who wants it for the cost of media mail postage. Contact me offlist, if interested. Fine Print: You must be 18 years of age or older and a resident of the United States. This offer is not open to Employees of Saab their families or household residents. Proof of Saab ownership not a requirement. Offer limited to one book. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au Sat May 14 22:19:24 2011 From: jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au (Jeff Moore) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:19:24 +1000 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for an English eBayer Message-ID: <00d701cc12b7$4620c690$d26253b0$@hotkey.net.au> G'Day all, Wondering if there is someone in the UK who might be able to do me a huge favour? I am trying to buy a pair of Metro Calipers off eBay but the seller won't post them out of the country - therefor I am looking for someone that might be able to place a bid on my behalf and forward them to me if we win? Of course I will cover ALL costs. If someone can could you please contact me off list for details - the auction ends 1754 BST. My email address is: jeffreymoore at hotkey dot net dot au Cheers from Oz Jeff. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat May 14 22:39:48 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 04:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Someone is lying to us! In-Reply-To: <1046380736.389566.1305433685151.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <886958543.389619.1305434387990.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I was remembering Jerry Clower and his stories about the Letbetter family. Made me laugh for years and still do. "Never told a joke that you couldn't tell in churh" -- his words, not mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUrdMzbtUg&feature=related -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun May 15 01:59:33 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 02:59:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] the 1275 tag on my engine block In-Reply-To: <886958543.389619.1305434387990.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <886958543.389619.1305434387990.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DCF87E5.40207@tx.rr.com> I had my camera out so I took a photo of it today. It is on the left side of the block near the front and high up near the head. It was pretty grungy so I wiped it off with a rag. I don't know if it was originally all the same color or if I just rubbed more on the raised letters. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/MG/IMG_2137b.jpg From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 15 03:36:06 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 05:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] the 1275 tag on my engine block Message-ID: <23f407.6737c338.3b00f886@aol.com> I'm not sure if they were painted engine colour when they left the factory or not. Most I've seen have been unpainted. In a message dated 15/05/2011 09:05:28 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: I had my camera out so I took a photo of it today. It is on the left side of the block near the front and high up near the head. It was pretty grungy so I wiped it off with a rag. I don't know if it was originally all the same color or if I just rubbed more on the raised letters. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/MG/IMG_2137b.jpg From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 15 03:40:02 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 05:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits r... Message-ID: <23f473.608b8e46.3b00f971@aol.com> Why not convert your car to larger hose end to end? In a message dated 15/05/2011 03:19:31 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are smaller than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up with larger hose. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 15 03:42:29 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 05:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for an English eBayer Message-ID: <23f4b6.b11ee6f.3b00fa05@aol.com> Why do you want a pair of Metro calipers? Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 15/05/2011 05:34:29 GMT Daylight Time, jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au writes: G'Day all, Wondering if there is someone in the UK who might be able to do me a huge favour? I am trying to buy a pair of Metro Calipers off eBay but the seller won't post them out of the country - therefor I am looking for someone that might be able to place a bid on my behalf and forward them to me if we win? Of course I will cover ALL costs. If someone can could you please contact me off list for details - the auction ends 1754 BST. My email address is: jeffreymoore at hotkey dot net dot au Cheers from Oz Jeff. From jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au Sun May 15 03:58:26 2011 From: jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au (Jeff Moore) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:58:26 +1000 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for an English eBayer In-Reply-To: <23f4b6.b11ee6f.3b00fa05@aol.com> References: <23f4b6.b11ee6f.3b00fa05@aol.com> Message-ID: <00e701cc12e6$a29abe10$e7d03a30$@hotkey.net.au> Hi Weslake, I'm told that Capri disc and Metro calipers make a good front brake conversion on a Spridget. Cheers Jeff From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, 15 May 2011 7:42 PM To: jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Looking for an English eBayer Why do you want a pair of Metro calipers? Weslake-Monza 1330 From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 15 05:18:36 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 07:18:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs Message-ID: Happy spring to all, Finally took the Bugeye of the jack stands, changed the starter, changed the oil and took it for a short spin. The right front tire is now hitting the inner fender arch while going over small bumps. I do not know how old these springs are, they where purchased on Ebay because the race springs I had where too short. Do the front springs get soft over time and just need replacement? Any thoughts if it is better to buy new springs or use the race springs with lifting blocks to get the correct height? Thanks, Steve 59 Bugeye From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 15 05:21:01 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 07:21:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' In-Reply-To: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Now if the book came with a coupon for a free Sonett ...... I always liked those cars for some strange reason. Steve On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Jay wrote: > I think we have at least two Saab owners here on the list, maybe more. > > I have a copy of the Saab-Scania Story. Hardcover. It's not autographed or > anything, but it's free to anyone who wants it for the cost of media mail > postage. > > Contact me offlist, if interested. > > Fine Print: > You must be 18 years of age or older and a resident of the United States. > This > offer is not open to Employees of Saab their families or household > residents. > Proof of Saab ownership not a requirement. Offer limited to one book. > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun May 15 05:29:08 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 07:29:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wahoo Bugeye List In-Reply-To: <662711.65198.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <662711.65198.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's been very quiet lately, not that its ever been as active as the Spridgets list. Course they generally don't tolerate much off topic banter. Some very knowledgeable folks on it that aren't here tho. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:13:38 -0700 > From: jfishbein at snet.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Wahoo Bugeye List > > I broke down last week and subscribed to the Bugeye Wahoo List. > > In a week I think I've received maybe 4 or 5 emails. > > Is there something wrong with my subscription or is traffic usually light over > there? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 15 05:29:29 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 07:29:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. In-Reply-To: References: <20110515030536.9076B187871@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I see what you mean form Lin's picture. It looks like the filter screws into the pump and has the hose barb on the other side. I just try avoiding having to crawl under the car for any reason. The street elbows should work with the filter and pump. Steve On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Pete Chast wrote: > I think this filter is on the pump intake? > > > On Sat, 14 May 2011 22:36:09 -0400, wrote: > > >> If you can not get a 90 degree fitting you may be able to find a 90 degree >> street elbow and just screw the fitting into that. >> >> I placed my filter under the hood right before the carbs (but away from >> the exhust manifold) Easier to change and it will filter anything that comes >> from the fuel line. >> >> Steve >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Linda Grunthaner >> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 >> To: Spridget list >> Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, >> hose never fits right. >> >> List, >> I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later >> Spridgets >> and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the >> new >> pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my >> arm >> so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I >> was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump >> in >> position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in >> correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get >> to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which >> I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. >> I >> also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are >> smaller >> than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up >> with >> larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for >> small hose? >> >> Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that >> came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I >> remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? >> Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who >> would have that? >> >> If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. >> Lin >> My pictures: >> http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/location >> >> http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/placement >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com >> >> > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun May 15 05:51:44 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 04:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank would have loved this site--Made in America!!!! In-Reply-To: <333369.26010.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <287218.72066.qm@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Try this American jeans manufacturer too: http://www.pointerbrand.com/ Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Sat, 5/14/11, HealeyRick wrote: I don't know that we can fight globalization. I figured it was over when the American icon, Levi's, moved production outside the U.S. But if you want to buy an American jeas as your small protest, you can go here: http://www.gussetclothing.com/ I'm wearing 'em, they're pretty sweet. Rick From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun May 15 09:03:04 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' In-Reply-To: References: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <121637.58954.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sonett ...... I always liked those cars for some strange reason. Steve "For some reason?" What the heck are you talking about Steve? Sonetts are extremely cool. I've loved them simce I saw my first one in Atlanta in '66 or '67. I remember it was Yellow and looked like some kind of super-exotic space ship to this 2nd or 3rd grader. - David From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 15 11:46:28 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:46:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' In-Reply-To: <121637.58954.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <121637.58954.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The first SAAB Sonnet I ever saw was the Sonnet II in 1968 in the UK. I was offered a test drive in the SAAB or one of the other two cars parked next to it. The others were a twin cam Escort and a TVR Tuscan. I'll leave you to guess by saying I've not been terribly impressed with Sonnets.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Booker wrote: > Sonett ...... I always liked those cars for some strange reason. Steve > > "For > some reason?" What the heck are you talking about Steve? > Sonetts are > extremely cool. I've loved them simce I saw my first > one in Atlanta in '66 or > '67. I remember it was Yellow and looked > like some kind of super-exotic space > ship to this 2nd or 3rd > grader. > > - David > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Sun May 15 11:57:46 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' In-Reply-To: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <836723.20056.qm@web112712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ok jay ya still got da book? if so could ya bring it to carlisle in a plastic bag...(ya know it's gonna rain..right?)? chuck. uncontrollably saabing ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Sat, May 14, 2011 11:55:16 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' I think we have at least two Saab owners here on the list, maybe more. I have a copy of the Saab-Scania Story. Hardcover. It's not autographed or anything, but it's free to anyone who wants it for the cost of media mail postage. Contact me offlist, if interested. Fine Print: You must be 18 years of age or older and a resident of the United States. This offer is not open to Employees of Saab their families or household residents. Proof of Saab ownership not a requirement. Offer limited to one book. jay fishbein wallingford, ct _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sun May 15 12:14:59 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 13:14:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' In-Reply-To: References: <112398.27783.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <121637.58954.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Strange things are afoot, judging by recent trips to the UPullIt yards. I've seen some things lately that used to be rare locally. Studebaker 2 Porsches Corvette New Beetle Several Saabs 5 Miatas in the last few months, zero in prior months. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun May 15 12:40:52 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' In-Reply-To: <836723.20056.qm@web112712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <882541.75749.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hey Chuck, You get my package? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/15/11, charles christ wrote: From: charles christ Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' To: "spridgets" Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 1:57 PM ok jay ya still got da book? if so could ya bring it to carlisle in a plastic bag...(ya know it's gonna rain..right?)? chuck. uncontrollably saabing ________________________________ From Miniac7 at aol.com Sun May 15 13:14:22 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 15:14:22 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' Message-ID: Given the choice, I would've opted to drive the TVR, Escort, & SAAB, in that order. Howard From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 15 13:45:48 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:45:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You are indeed perceptive, Howard!! We have a winner! On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, wrote: > Given the choice, I would've opted to drive the TVR, Escort, & SAAB, in > that order. > > Howard > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 15 14:13:57 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' Message-ID: I agree!!! ------Original Message------ From: Miniac7 at aol.com Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: bmwwxman at gmail.com Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Stop Your Saabin' Sent: May 15, 2011 3:14 PM Given the choice, I would've opted to drive the TVR, Escort, & SAAB, in that order. Howard Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 15 15:41:52 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee Message-ID: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Anyone be needing a Bugeye Steering Wheel? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en jay fishbein wallingford, ct From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 15 15:45:23 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 14:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <674231.76360.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Or maybe a Midget Steering Wheel? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mg-midget-sprite-steering-wheel-brand-new-/280672677957?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4159653045 jay ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 5:41:52 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee Anyone be needing a Bugeye Steering Wheel? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 15 15:57:45 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <674231.76360.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1456075382.394492.1305496665488.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Is he on the same planet as I ?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun May 15 16:09:20 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 22:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <1456075382.394492.1305496665488.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1663632416.419654.1305497360704.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> what does that come out to in american dollars? $1500? for a steering wheel? ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:57:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steering Committee Is he on the same planet as I ?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun May 15 16:11:51 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 22:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <1663632416.419654.1305497360704.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <980322515.2048423.1305497511070.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Evidently not. At that price, I would think he could afford postage to anywhere on Earth. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:57:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steering Committee Is he on the same planet as I ?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 15 17:08:26 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:08:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <1663632416.419654.1305497360704.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1663632416.419654.1305497360704.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: If you don't need the horn push, yes. Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 15, 2011, at 6:09 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > what does that come out to in american dollars? > $1500? for a steering wheel? From robert.duquette at me.com Sun May 15 17:28:45 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:28:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <93EEEEE5-9E62-47F7-9DE0-E5A8FE2E75B3@me.com> I think I'll pass on that! Robert > Anyone be needing a Bugeye Steering Wheel? > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en > > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun May 15 17:56:45 2011 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:56:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Adding a Weber Message-ID: <0a8ed78ce90c3fd52991c8fc09834196.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> I'm putting a Weber carb on the 1275 in my Bugeye. The way it is mounted the throttle cable enters on the front end of the car from the valve cover side and pulls the throttle linkage toward the valve cover. The choke is set up with a bracket toward the front of the car and pulls toward the front of the car. The problem is that my choke cable isn't long enough to go around the carb, through the bracket and back to the choke hookup. Is there another choke/choke cable I can use? I've been working on this project for three years and have vowed to get it on the road soon. Any help will be aappreciated. Dick Byrne in NH From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun May 15 18:01:30 2011 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:01:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] another Weber carb question Message-ID: <2335e06b3fd2ed29fbde1ef8127bcb98.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> I have a facet fuel pump under the rear of the car near the original location. I don't remember the fuel pressure it delivers. Anyone know? The Weber specs no more than 3lbs pressure, but prefers 2.5 pounds. Do I need a pressure regulator? If so, which one and where can I get one. Dick Byrne in NH From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 15 18:12:48 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:12:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] another Weber carb question In-Reply-To: <2335e06b3fd2ed29fbde1ef8127bcb98.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <2335e06b3fd2ed29fbde1ef8127bcb98.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <21941F1B004542F298ADF7A8D92ADB5D@spider> Here is a source of Weber parts. ...bill in corvallis http://www.racetep.com/weber.html ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:02 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] another Weber carb question I have a facet fuel pump under the rear of the car near the original location. I don't remember the fuel pressure it delivers. Anyone know? The Weber specs no more than 3lbs pressure, but prefers 2.5 pounds. Do I need a pressure regulator? If so, which one and where can I get one. Dick Byrne in NH Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 15 18:17:03 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 00:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] another Weber carb question Message-ID: If I remember correctly SU take 2.5 to 3.5 lbs. You may be OK but best to first check the pressure with a gauge. If you need a regulator JEGs or Summit racing has them. Steve ------Original Message------ From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] another Weber carb question Sent: May 15, 2011 8:01 PM I have a facet fuel pump under the rear of the car near the original location. I don't remember the fuel pressure it delivers. Anyone know? The Weber specs no more than 3lbs pressure, but prefers 2.5 pounds. Do I need a pressure regulator? If so, which one and where can I get one. Dick Byrne in NH _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun May 15 18:56:59 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:56:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 975 pounds of what??? I believe a million US dollars weighs 49.2 kilos. So you do the math! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun May 15 19:09:42 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 18:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <436157.97411.qm@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Wonder if the ivory steering wheel on "Goldie" cost that much: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14531705 at N00/5344881028/in/photostream/ Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/15/11, WFO Herb wrote: From: WFO Herb Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steering Committee To: "Jay" Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 8:56 PM 975 pounds of what??? I believe a million US dollars weighs 49.2 kilos. So you do the math! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sun May 15 19:23:04 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:23:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee In-Reply-To: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <188384.50619.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002d01cc1367$ce60ee80$6b22cb80$@net> He has been smoking something and it wasn't tobacco. I mean really!!! I can restore one that will be IDENTICAL for way less than that and the first time you install it poof.... there goes that value Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 4:42 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Committee Anyone be needing a Bugeye Steering Wheel? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&fromMakeTr ack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en jay fishbein wallingford, ct Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From cbaustin at verizon.net Sun May 15 19:36:32 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:36:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel and Accessories Message-ID: <4DD07FA0.4080808@verizon.net> Once you get that original steering wheel installed, try whipping it from side to side whilst wearing your newly acquired used leather jacket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300556235595&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Be sure to read the questions at the bottom. CB From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun May 15 19:53:52 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 18:53:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Will US car makers do the same? Message-ID: <000801cc136c$1c5f8700$551e9500$@net> "BMW is about to start selling original parts and accessories direct via online retailer eBay UK, claiming that it's the first car maker to do so. Previously, owners had to order parts from dealerships but now, with the launch of BMW Direct, they can buy from the car maker, thereby cutting out the middleman, which means prices should be considerably cheaper. Postage and packaging is free. Other manufacturers are expected to follow BMW's example." (From The Telegraph of London) From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun May 15 20:13:51 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 02:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Will US car makers do the same? In-Reply-To: <000801cc136c$1c5f8700$551e9500$@net> Message-ID: <24384862.431887.1305512031250.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Probably not, most US car makers have their parts made overseas.B And long distance drop shipping from Guala Lampor ain't cheap. Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Evans" To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 9:53:52 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Will US car makers do the same? "BMW is about to start selling original parts and accessories direct via online retailer eBay UK, claiming that it's the first car maker to do so. Previously, owners had to order parts from dealerships but now, with the launch of BMW Direct, they can buy from the car maker, thereby cutting out the middleman, which means prices should be considerably cheaper. Postage and packaging is free. Other manufacturers are expected to follow BMW's example." B (From The Telegraph of London) Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Sun May 15 20:22:04 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:22:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye "Rally" springs too high Message-ID: <4DD08A4C.6050607@sbcglobal.net> A friend is doing a complete restoration of 1960 Bugeye and bought the Rally springs from Moss (265-630) since the stock springs are NLA. Now the back end sticks way up in the air and looks stupid. It will probably drive that way, too. Which leaves does he have to remove/change/reorder in order to get the ride height correct? He has the original springs, too. Thanks. Lee From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 15 20:50:36 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 02:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Ok... who's got the money?? Message-ID: <774243766.397704.1305514236324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Which one of you lucky people is to be it's next owner.. C'mon... own up http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13405700 -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From kmappley at gmail.com Sun May 15 21:01:33 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 22:01:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re renewable energy (off topic) ect!! Message-ID: Sorry, had to reply. In conversation with Dave he is talking about the Hanover mess which I was unaware they are finally doing something about. I'm sure, at one time, putting this stuff in special glass jars cased in lead was at least discussed. Regardless our heirs are going to have to take care of this stuff whether we condense it or bury it and I'm not sure glass blocks will be all that safe. Personally I like what France dose. Put in vaults up on pylons where people live and can be reminded of it all the time! I read or heard at one time that it was possible to build a special reactor to artificially decay this waste. It would take a hundred years but what would come out would be relatively safe. Anyone else ever heard of this? Kurt From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 15 21:07:51 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ok... who's got the money?? In-Reply-To: <774243766.397704.1305514236324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <774243766.397704.1305514236324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8BB2FE63B39D4B14A4FB0468EC9B6CCA@spider> I request equal time for the lesser known Gnome-Mobile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gnome-Mobile I actually saw this movie, in a movie theater. . . . bill in corvallis =========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 7:51 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Ok... who's got the money?? Which one of you lucky people is to be it's next owner.. C'mon... own up http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13405700 -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun May 15 21:12:12 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 03:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel and Accessories In-Reply-To: <4DD07FA0.4080808@verizon.net> Message-ID: <289289301.2052752.1305515532716.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> That's a biker jacket. For true British car aficionados, you need a genuine, US Navy flight jacket. I just happen to have one available for a mere $5000. I'll even leave the patches on it and throw in the mandatory white silk scarf. Such a bargain! Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charley Braum" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:36:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel and Accessories Once you get that original steering wheel installed, try whipping it from side to side whilst wearing your newly acquired used leather jacket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300556235595&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Be sure to read the questions at the bottom. CB Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sun May 15 21:46:19 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 22:46:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel and Accessories In-Reply-To: <4DD07FA0.4080808@verizon.net> References: <4DD07FA0.4080808@verizon.net> Message-ID: <020801cc137b$d1416210$73c42630$@rr.com> It is too bad it's not my size and that they don't have more than one available. :-) I have an old leather Navy flight jack that I would sell for $10,000. Oh wait, I gave it to Goodwill. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charley Braum Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:37 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel and Accessories Once you get that original steering wheel installed, try whipping it from side to side whilst wearing your newly acquired used leather jacket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300556235595&ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT Be sure to read the questions at the bottom. CB _______________________________________________ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun May 15 21:52:37 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 22:52:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering Wheel and Accessories In-Reply-To: <020801cc137b$d1416210$73c42630$@rr.com> References: <4DD07FA0.4080808@verizon.net> <020801cc137b$d1416210$73c42630$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4DD09F85.8040601@tx.rr.com> I have a Pirelli (on topic for this list!) windbreaker that I would sell for $11,000. > It is too bad it's not my size and that they don't have more than one > available. :-) > I have an old leather Navy flight jack that I would sell for $10,000. Oh > wait, I gave it to Goodwill. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon May 16 06:25:47 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 05:25:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] formula racing at Oregon State University; no lbc content Message-ID: Oregon State University has repeated as Formula SAE National Champions. http://tinyurl.com/65prukl ...bill in corvallis From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon May 16 08:11:31 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:11:31 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. Message-ID: <20110516.081131.16243.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Lin- If you turn the pump 90*, so that the inlet filter is pointing upwards, the incoming line will JUST make the turn without kinking. Also, if you shift the whole shebang outboard, it'll make the two hose radii more manageable. I used nutserts for mine in just that position on my MKII, that makes it easier to remove and replace the filter. Is Pinky Neg or Pos ground? Those pumps need to be wired correctly (ask me how I know) or they'll crap out within 100 miles or so. I also always mount mine on electric motor isolators so they aren't so loud, and mount a fuel pump switch for those times when I want to turn the engine without fuel. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Message: 14 Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. To: Spridget list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List, I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later Spridgets and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the new pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my arm so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump in position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are smaller than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up with larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for small hose? Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who would have that? If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. Lin ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dd130e84eb524aa8aast06duc From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon May 16 08:21:16 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:21:16 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] little valve o-rings Message-ID: <20110516.082116.16243.1@webmail19.dca.untd.com> So I'm assembling the 12G295 head now that its been milled. The little bugger o-rings on the factory exhaust valves are a pain, I can't get the valve retainers into place with them there. Can I just do without them without hurting anything? It seems to me that they were there to quiet the valve train. Granted, it allows the valve springs to be slightly more extended in the closed position, but due to the constant extension load they shouldn't move at all. Any thoughts? Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dd1330d686b74aca27st01duc From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon May 16 08:25:48 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:25:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] DMH signed mug Message-ID: <4DD133EC.5010007@verizon.net> See - http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/clt/2383100225.html CB From pilotrob at msn.com Mon May 16 10:01:55 2011 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 16:01:55 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... For sale 1966 AH Sprite with 1098 motor 159hp Message-ID: 159HP?? Whoa, whoa!!! :):) Quickest/fastest road-going Sprite on planet earth, 5 speed notwithstanding! :) CB From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 16 10:15:51 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Adding a Weber Message-ID: <3c04c.78d5bf94.3b02a7b7@aol.com> What sort of Weber Carb? What make of manifold. In a message dated 16/05/2011 00:56:56 GMT Daylight Time, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net writes: I'm putting a Weber carb From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 16 10:32:34 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?Z3J1bnRoYW5lckBnbWFpbC5jb20=?=) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:32:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Tips_or_examples_installing_my_Facet_pump?= =?utf-8?q?=2C_hose_never_fits__r=2E=2E=2E?= Message-ID: <4dd15194.8a4ee50a.5094.ffff9229@mx.google.com> Because I am not so certain I can find the correct thread size for the tank. BTW my home router is down and I haven't read all the comments about this Someone on the early widgets face book told me not to install in the rear I have to get the router for my internet to read the whole thing This should be an easy job this is frustrating I may go to picky or moss for a new line but ill check local auto store first. Anyone know the thread size on the tank? On the road now checking. For a new router. Lin Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: , Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits r... Date: Sun, May 15, 2011 5:40 am Why not convert your car to larger hose end to end? In a message dated 15/05/2011 03:19:31 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. Ialso checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are smallerthan stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up withlarger hose. From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon May 16 11:02:25 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:02:25 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Little valve orings Message-ID: <20110516.110225.20257.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> OK, So I tried to put the o-rings in the wrong place, I've got valve seals on the new guides so there's no problem, just a loose nut behind the wheel! I tried to put the o-rings under the keepers (D'oh) so of course they wouldn't fit! Chagrin, Chagrin. Thanks everyone for setting me straight!! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Health Ins for $49/month Compare Quotes & Get Covered Today. See How Much You Could be Saving. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dd158ab2e1864b5507st01duc From millerls at ado13.com Mon May 16 12:57:11 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 11:57:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] EMAX Air Compressor Message-ID: Any experience with the EMAX brand of compressors? Supposed to be made in Ohio. Larry Miller From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 16 16:10:05 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:10:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EMAX Air Compressor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD1A0BD.3000105@justbrits.com> Larry, I was actually ENJOYING reading Article linked below UNTIL Paragraph # 9 . "Earlier" stuff looks like it would be good !! *http://tinyurl.com/4xabtyf OR *http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/emax-air-goes-big-with-compressor-plant-250763.html From chris_west at juno.com Mon May 16 16:24:30 2011 From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west at juno.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:24:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lin's Facet Fuel Pump Questions Message-ID: <20110516.152444.950.516160@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Lin wrote: when I place the pump in position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are smaller -------------------------------------------------------------------- Lin, the threads on the inlet and outlets should be 1/8" NPT (pipe thread). Brass hose fittings (listed as "male hose barbs - hey, no snickering!!!) are available at any good auto parts store. Edelmann and Weatherhead are 2 brands that I know list them. The 90 degree configuration "street tee" (male threads on one side and female on the other) is a Weatherhead # 3400x2 and a 45 degree is 3350x2, both 1/8 NPT. I don't have the Edelmann #s but I know their catalog cross references to the Weatherhead. I had a Facet pump on an old Volvo and just ran plain fittings in and out with an in line filter on the inlet hose and a secondary in line filter right before the carb. As far as the hose size, I recall that 1/4" is a loose fit in some cases but will clamp tight. Others use VW 6mm hose (1/4" is 6.3mm) which is a little snug. Seeing as though we are talking about gasoline, I would be sure to clamp either one for safety's sake. hope this helps, Chris - AN5L35xxx ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dd1a462c6b9c468606st06vuc From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 16 16:43:40 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:43:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lin's Facet Fuel Pump Questions In-Reply-To: <20110516.152444.950.516160@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110516.152444.950.516160@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: The answer to this problem is simple. I have a Facet on my 1968. Well.... The car is completely stripped at the moment, but it WAS on there. Same situation. Need a right angle to reach the metal fuel line. Solution. VW fuel line - about a foot of it. Make a loop of it. Bingo. The ends of the coil are 90 degrees apart. Hose clamps at each end. No leaks, no bother, everything works. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, wrote: > Lin wrote: when I place the pump in > position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in > correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't > get > to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree > which > I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. > I > also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are > smaller > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lin, the threads on the inlet and outlets should be 1/8" NPT (pipe > thread). Brass hose fittings (listed as "male hose barbs - hey, no > snickering!!!) are available at any good auto parts store. Edelmann and > Weatherhead are 2 brands that I know list them. The 90 degree > configuration "street tee" (male threads on one side and female on the > other) is a Weatherhead # 3400x2 and a 45 degree is 3350x2, both 1/8 NPT. > I don't have the Edelmann #s but I know their catalog cross references > to the Weatherhead. I had a Facet pump on an old Volvo and just ran plain > fittings in and out with an in line filter on the inlet hose and a > secondary in line filter right before the carb. As far as the hose size, > I recall that 1/4" is a loose fit in some cases but will clamp tight. > Others use VW 6mm hose (1/4" is 6.3mm) which is a little snug. Seeing as > though we are talking about gasoline, I would be sure to clamp either one > for safety's sake. hope this helps, > > > Chris - AN5L35xxx > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon May 16 18:16:35 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:16:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... For sale 1966 AH Sprite with 1098 motor 159hp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Na, it's not a typo....See that huge, green supercharger on the side of the engine.... From steve345 at sbcglobal.net Wed May 11 11:31:05 2011 From: steve345 at sbcglobal.net (Steve S Christiansen) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] All British Car Day, Sacramento Message-ID: <810170.55471.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> We are planning on heading up to the All British day in Sacramento on May22. Are any of you planning on attending? If anyone going needs us to bring a part let us know. We are planning on traveling light(no trailer) so hopefully we won't have to carry doors or bonnets. Steve Christiansen ________________________________ Ol Phartz Partz steve345 at sbcglobal.net 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com From biffjones at verizon.net Mon May 16 20:21:43 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:21:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> Message-ID: <3B71210527F24150A6FCD189A5797BB8@dell1> Alan, etal, Alan I will be attending the Carlisle Sports & Import show. This year I'm bringing 'Ole Gray' instead of Frogarri. I will gladly stop by your site. All - Rick Moses will be at Carlisle on Saturday as a visitor. Why don't we all plan on gathering at the first steps of the grandstand at 12:00 and then get lunch. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book" http://sprites2.homestead.com/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 16 22:51:28 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 00:51:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle In-Reply-To: <3B71210527F24150A6FCD189A5797BB8@dell1> References: <2FBA8417CF8C4603A85997D39438954B@frogeye> <3B71210527F24150A6FCD189A5797BB8@dell1> Message-ID: Wow Biff I have never seen ol gray I'll be arriving witout sprite on Friday night and head to the show early si I can check out the swap meet first I got a message from bugeye barn that he is heading to the states to buy parts. Is he the guy Frank spoke of who was buying all our parts at Carlisle? We would love to get together for lunch what time to meet? Lin ps some Internet/computer trouble today so I have missed some mail. On Monday, May 16, 2011, Biff Jones wrote: > Alan, etal, > > Alan I will be attending the Carlisle Sports & Import show. This year I'm bringing 'Ole Gray' instead of Frogarri. I will gladly stop by your site. > > All - Rick Moses will be at Carlisle on Saturday as a visitor. Why don't we all plan on gathering at the first steps of the grandstand at 12:00 and then get lunch. > > Biff Jones > 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye > 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book" > http://sprites2.homestead.com/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 16 22:58:38 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 00:58:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lin's Facet Fuel Pump Questions In-Reply-To: References: <20110516.152444.950.516160@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Ok thanks I'll go to the store I do need to sealthe threasds right but with what? Lin On Monday, May 16, 2011, Jim Johnson wrote: > The answer to this problem is simple. I have a Facet on my 1968. Well.... > The car is completely stripped at the moment, but it WAS on there. Same > situation. Need a right angle to reach the metal fuel line. Solution. VW > fuel line - about a foot of it. Make a loop of it. Bingo. The ends of the > coil are 90 degrees apart. Hose clamps at each end. No leaks, no bother, > everything works. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, wrote: > >> Lin wrote: when I place the pump in >> position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in >> correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't >> get >> to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree >> which >> I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. >> I >> also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are >> smaller >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Lin, the threads on the inlet and outlets should be 1/8" NPT (pipe >> thread). Brass hose fittings (listed as "male hose barbs - hey, no >> snickering!!!) are available at any good auto parts store. Edelmann and >> Weatherhead are 2 brands that I know list them. The 90 degree >> configuration "street tee" (male threads on one side and female on the >> other) is a Weatherhead # 3400x2 and a 45 degree is 3350x2, both 1/8 NPT. >> I don't have the Edelmann #s but I know their catalog cross references >> to the Weatherhead. I had a Facet pump on an old Volvo and just ran plain >> fittings in and out with an in line filter on the inlet hose and a >> secondary in line filter right before the carb. As far as the hose size, >> I recall that 1/4" is a loose fit in some cases but will clamp tight. >> Others use VW 6mm hose (1/4" is 6.3mm) which is a little snug. Seeing as >> though we are talking about gasoline, I would be sure to clamp either one >> for safety's sake. hope this helps, >> >> >> Chris - AN5L35xxx >> > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 17 03:52:53 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 05:52:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. In-Reply-To: <20110516.081131.16243.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> References: <20110516.081131.16243.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Shouldn't the filter be at the inlet? (see photo) I'll get some 90 degree elbows regular plumbing fitting right? Also the instructions indicate the pump needs to be at the horizontal position, but I will reread it. Are the threads to the tank available locally or some funky thread I need to order (from where?) If I cut that steel line and damage it can I pick up the line at a local auto shop and they bend it on a bender? I always remember how Frank said the threads in the tank are unobtainable that is why this stresses me out. Peter Caldwell thanks I'll call from school today. Lin On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Lin- > If you turn the pump 90*, so that the inlet filter is pointing upwards, the > incoming line will JUST make the turn without kinking. Also, if you shift > the whole shebang outboard, it'll make the two hose radii more manageable. I > used nutserts for mine in just that position on my MKII, that makes it > easier to remove and replace the filter. > Is Pinky Neg or Pos ground? Those pumps need to be wired correctly (ask me > how I know) or they'll crap out within 100 miles or so. I also always mount > mine on electric motor isolators so they aren't so loud, and mount a fuel > pump switch for those times when I want to turn the engine without fuel. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 -0400 > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose > never fits right. > To: Spridget list > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > List, > I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later Spridgets > and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the > new > pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my > arm > so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I > was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump in > position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in > correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get > to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which > I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I > also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are > smaller > than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up > with > larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for > small hose? > > Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that > came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I > remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? > Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who > would have that? > > If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. > Lin > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dd130e833f764ac154st02duc From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 17 04:10:43 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:10:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose never fits right. In-Reply-To: <1348869023-1305426970-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1809670959-@b3.c12.bise6.blackberry> References: <1348869023-1305426970-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1809670959-@b3.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Steve if it is the same pump it is designed to push not pull, from what I'm told. Lin On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:36 PM, wrote: > If you can not get a 90 degree fitting you may be able to find a 90 degree > street elbow and just screw the fitting into that. > > I placed my filter under the hood right before the carbs (but away from the > exhust manifold) Easier to change and it will filter anything that comes > from the fuel line. > > Steve > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Grunthaner > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, > hose never fits right. > > List, > I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later Spridgets > and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the > new > pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my > arm > so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I > was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump in > position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in > correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get > to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which > I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I > also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are > smaller > than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up > with > larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for > small hose? > > Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that > came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I > remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? > Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who > would have that? > > If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. > Lin > My pictures: > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/location > > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/placement > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 17 04:18:42 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:18:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve, Frank had sugested I get my shocks from Peter Caldwell, World Wide Auto Parts, I am glad I did they are perfect. Lin On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: > Happy spring to all, > > Finally took the Bugeye of the jack stands, changed the starter, changed > the > oil and took it for a short spin. > > The right front tire is now hitting the inner fender arch while going over > small bumps. I do not know how old these springs are, they where purchased > on Ebay because the race springs I had where too short. Do the front > springs get soft over time and just need replacement? Any thoughts if it is > better to buy new springs or use the race springs with lifting blocks to > get > the correct height? > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > 59 Bugeye > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 17 04:23:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:23:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] High Point Sprite - Anyone? In-Reply-To: <1cfa4f.7b922234.3b00251e@aol.com> References: <1cfa4f.7b922234.3b00251e@aol.com> Message-ID: I was in Lower Manhattan Sunday and saw a grey primer Midget there anyone we know? Lin On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:34 PM, wrote: > Not me... > > In a message dated 13/05/2011 23:03:40 GMT Daylight Time, Miniac7 at aol.com > writes: > > I was in High Point N.C. last weekend and spotted a nice looking red > square > body driving with the top down, on what I believe was Main Street. Anyone > from the list? > > Howard Collins > Virginia Beach, VA. > '60 AH Bugeye Sprite > '68 Austin Mini > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 17 04:24:56 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:24:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My BugNidget, NisBugidget, MidBugSanGet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good for you Rick, thanks for the photo looks good. Aren't you a local to me NY? Which part is Nissan? Lin On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Well BillM and I did some cutting today and bolted up a Bugeye bonnet to my > 78 Midget. > So now it's part Midget, part Bugeye and part Nissan. > Once it's all the same color it will look a lot better. > I have turn signals and light buckets, need headlight trim rings and rubber > headlight seals. > Lots of work to be done! > This is getting to be fun! > > > http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/25270/filename/bugidget01.jpg > > Rick (idget) Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue May 17 07:35:48 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:35:48 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, hose neverfits right. In-Reply-To: References: <1348869023-1305426970-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1809670959-@b3.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: The pump should be in the back, I just put the filter under the hood of my Bugeye. Also, I have a fule cell in the car with a fine mesh filter in the tank so - do not worry about large particles getting to the pump. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:10:43 To: Cc: ; spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump,hose never fits right. Steve if it is the same pump it is designed to push not pull, from what I'm told. Lin On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:36 PM, wrote: > If you can not get a 90 degree fitting you may be able to find a 90 degree > street elbow and just screw the fitting into that. > > I placed my filter under the hood right before the carbs (but away from the > exhust manifold) Easier to change and it will filter anything that comes > from the fuel line. > > Steve > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Grunthaner > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:01:34 > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Tips or examples installing my Facet pump, > hose never fits right. > > List, > I am installing my new Facet fuel pump in the rear like the later Spridgets > and came to a small road block. Below are photos of the location and the > new > pump for a better visual. I drained the tank today (the crap ran down my > arm > so i am soaked with gas (good thing I quit smoking again this week) and I > was getting ready to cut the fuel line but noticed when I place the pump in > position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in > correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't get > to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree which > I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. I > also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are > smaller > than stock fuel line and are a pain in the ass to fit because we end up > with > larger hose. Is there a specialty parts shop who will have a fitting for > small hose? > > Why is this such a PITA it just shouldn't be. Looking at the filter that > came with the pump I won't be able to fit any hose on that monster can I > remove the filter altogether or maybe get a fitting and a plastic filter? > Also I remember an old post that said they make teflon tape for fuel, who > would have that? > > If anyone can send me a photo of their setup I would be appreciative. > Lin > My pictures: > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/location > > http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/placement > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 17 07:52:04 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite / Midget Rear Seat Cushion Message-ID: <821352.2010.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> If anyone owns one of these, could you contact me offlist? I would like to get some pics (top & bottom) and dimensions (length/width/height). I came across one in my stash of parts and want to determine if it's for a Spridget or some other form of transportation. Thanks in advance, jay fishbein wallingford, ct From heard at datatrontech.net Tue May 17 08:16:59 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:16:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash Message-ID: <002301cc149d$161297c0$4237c740$@net> Anyone have any close up pics of the trim piece that goes above the dash on a BE? I don't have this piece and cannot tell from the few pics I have what it is supposed to look like or exactly how it fastens. Thanks, Heard From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 17 08:35:55 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 07:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash In-Reply-To: <002301cc149d$161297c0$4237c740$@net> References: <002301cc149d$161297c0$4237c740$@net> Message-ID: <202231.7276.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> It's a piece of aluminum trim that has the same profile as the aluminum door/cockpit trim and fastens with the same screws as the door and other cockpit trim. This piece above the dash was originally covered with the same vinyl as the rest of the interior (seats/dash).. jay ________________________________ From: Heard Saxon To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 10:16:59 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash Anyone have any close up pics of the trim piece that goes above the dash on a BE? I don't have this piece and cannot tell from the few pics I have what it is supposed to look like or exactly how it fastens. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue May 17 08:59:36 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:59:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC but Frank would've had a field day with this Message-ID: This is another reason why I always try to check the country of origin when purchasing anything http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110517/ap_on_fe_st/as_china_exploding_watermelons From heard at datatrontech.net Tue May 17 09:56:00 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:56:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash In-Reply-To: <202231.7276.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <002301cc149d$161297c0$4237c740$@net> <202231.7276.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005001cc14aa$eafb8610$c0f29230$@net> Thanks, Jay. I think I'm missing that piece of trim. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:36 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash It's a piece of aluminum trim that has the same profile as the aluminum door/cockpit trim and fastens with the same screws as the door and other cockpit trim. This piece above the dash was originally covered with the same vinyl as the rest of the interior (seats/dash).. jay ________________________________ From: Heard Saxon To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 10:16:59 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash Anyone have any close up pics of the trim piece that goes above the dash on a BE? I don't have this piece and cannot tell from the few pics I have what it is supposed to look like or exactly how it fastens. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue May 17 10:24:30 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:24:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash In-Reply-To: <005001cc14aa$eafb8610$c0f29230$@net> References: <002301cc149d$161297c0$4237c740$@net><202231.7276.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><005001cc14aa$eafb8610$c0f29230$@net> Message-ID: They polish up really nice with a buffing wheel. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Heard Saxon" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:56:00 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash Thanks, Jay. I think I'm missing that piece of trim. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:36 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash It's a piece of aluminum trim that has the same profile as the aluminum door/cockpit trim and fastens with the same screws as the door and other cockpit trim. This piece above the dash was originally covered with the same vinyl as the rest of the interior (seats/dash).. jay ________________________________ From: Heard Saxon To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 10:16:59 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash Anyone have any close up pics of the trim piece that goes above the dash on a BE? I don't have this piece and cannot tell from the few pics I have what it is supposed to look like or exactly how it fastens. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Tue May 17 11:10:41 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:10:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash In-Reply-To: <20110517162614.B93C51878C7@autox.team.net> References: <002301cc149d$161297c0$4237c740$@net><202231.7276.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><005001cc14aa$eafb8610$c0f29230$@net> <20110517162614.B93C51878C7@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4DD2AC11.1050904@justbrits.com> << They polish up really nice with a buffing wheel. >> And WILL remind you at a VERY FAST pace, that on the 98 degree sunny day that you should NOT have put your hand anywhere NEAR it !!! LMAO !! Oh yeah, and about the car going thru the intersection that you did NOT see because of a "flash" from the pretty chrome-like finish blinded you just temporally won't cause any problem !!! WAIT, damn the guy's got a GUN !!!!!!! Ah, it's OK 'cause it sure is purty !!!!! From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue May 17 12:31:26 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:31:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Eaton/Emax compressors Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD038DDB4@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> >From their website: "Just because you see the American Flag sticker on the front of the unit does not mean it was actually made in the USA. There are many factors that you need to be aware of before purchasing a unit. 1. Where the parts were manufactured? 2. Warranty? 3. What are the replacement parts going to cost for the unit you are purchasing? We have seen 5 HP compressor pumps that are over $1,000.00 for a rebuild kit. We use international compressor pumps built in one of our own factories. This is why you see "EATON" in our castings. One out of every 100 compressors is built in the USA. We strive to give Americans jobs (the majority of our piston-type unit's components are made here in the USA) but have to also keep PREMIUM quality at a reasonable price with a 5-YEAR BUMPER-TO BUMPER Warranty on all parts - NOT PRO-RATED!!! " Frank would probably give it a thumbs up! JohnD From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue May 17 12:54:23 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:54:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Message-ID: I have been running a black hard plastic shell rounded shape Facet in my 59 as a puller for several years and knock on wood, the thing keeps working. But this makes me wonder if I would get better performance if I moved it as a pusher instead? I might be missing out on something using it as a puller or? List advice most appreciated. . . Kirk (Just back from two weeks in England and France) From millerls at ado13.com Tue May 17 13:08:28 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:08:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Facet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <112B39A5-2851-4286-B4A2-6DA34F164D13@ado13.com> Hi Kirk My Red Bugeye (BUGIIIS) has two (2) Facet pumps. One at the tank and one in the engine compartment. They are switched so that I can run either one or I can run both at the same time. I don't see any difference with any of the three configurations. Before someone asks, I did it just for the hell of it. Larry Miller On May 17, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I have been running a black hard plastic shell rounded shape Facet in my 59 > as a puller for several years and knock on wood, the thing keeps working. > > But this makes me wonder if I would get better performance if I moved it as > a pusher instead? I might be missing out on something using it as a puller > or? > > List advice most appreciated. . . > > Kirk > > (Just back from two weeks in England and France) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 17 13:16:38 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Facet In-Reply-To: <112B39A5-2851-4286-B4A2-6DA34F164D13@ado13.com> References: <112B39A5-2851-4286-B4A2-6DA34F164D13@ado13.com> Message-ID: > They are switched so that I can run either one or I can run both at the same > time. I don't see any difference with any of the three configurations. > > Before someone asks, I did it just for the hell of it. I figured you just liked the noise... David L From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Tue May 17 13:27:22 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lin's Facet Fuel Pump Questions In-Reply-To: References: <20110516.152444.950.516160@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <748555.14756.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Facet install. I hope the picture showes I haven't tryed an attach before. Bill W Puyallup Wa ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Jim Johnson Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 9:58:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lin's Facet Fuel Pump Questions Ok thanks I'll go to the store I do need to sealthe threasds right but with what? Lin On Monday, May 16, 2011, Jim Johnson wrote: > The answer to this problem is simple. I have a Facet on my 1968. Well.... > The car is completely stripped at the moment, but it WAS on there. Same > situation. Need a right angle to reach the metal fuel line. Solution. VW > fuel line - about a foot of it. Make a loop of it. Bingo. The ends of the > coil are 90 degrees apart. Hose clamps at each end. No leaks, no bother, > everything works. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, wrote: > >> Lin wrote: when I place the pump in >> position it is very cramped and I don't see how to get rubber line in >> correctly without kinking the line for that 90 degree turn. I couldn't >> get >> to the store in time but I'll try and get a fitting with a 90 degree >> which >> I'm sure they won't have the correct thread size or the end will be huge. >> I >> also checked my rubber line and it is 1/4" as I recall our lines are >> smaller >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Lin, the threads on the inlet and outlets should be 1/8" NPT (pipe >> thread). Brass hose fittings (listed as "male hose barbs - hey, no >> snickering!!!) are available at any good auto parts store. Edelmann and >> Weatherhead are 2 brands that I know list them. The 90 degree >> configuration "street tee" (male threads on one side and female on the >> other) is a Weatherhead # 3400x2 and a 45 degree is 3350x2, both 1/8 NPT. >> I don't have the Edelmann #s but I know their catalog cross references >> to the Weatherhead. I had a Facet pump on an old Volvo and just ran plain >> fittings in and out with an in line filter on the inlet hose and a >> secondary in line filter right before the carb. As far as the hose size, >> I recall that 1/4" is a loose fit in some cases but will clamp tight. >> Others use VW 6mm hose (1/4" is 6.3mm) which is a little snug. Seeing as >> though we are talking about gasoline, I would be sure to clamp either one >> for safety's sake. hope this helps, >> >> >> Chris - AN5L35xxx >> > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCN5190.jpg] From millerls at ado13.com Tue May 17 13:31:57 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:31:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Eaton/Emax compressors In-Reply-To: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD038DDB4@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> References: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD038DDB4@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <1A8F57F2-ABF8-4825-B2B6-9A6B80BBCB71@ado13.com> Ed pointed out a newspaper article that made reference to their "china" partner. Larry Miller On May 17, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > Frank would probably give it a thumbs up! > > JohnD > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue May 17 13:42:10 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:42:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs References: Message-ID: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> I also bet springs are fine, have the front shocks rebuilt by Peter C. Both of them. Will not have to be done for another 50 years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Steven Guterman" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs > Steve, Frank had sugested I get my shocks from Peter Caldwell, World Wide > Auto Parts, I am glad I did they are perfect. > Lin > > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Steven Guterman > wrote: > >> Happy spring to all, >> >> Finally took the Bugeye of the jack stands, changed the starter, changed >> the >> oil and took it for a short spin. >> >> The right front tire is now hitting the inner fender arch while going >> over >> small bumps. I do not know how old these springs are, they where >> purchased >> on Ebay because the race springs I had where too short. Do the front >> springs get soft over time and just need replacement? Any thoughts if it >> is >> better to buy new springs or use the race springs with lifting blocks to >> get >> the correct height? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> >> 59 Bugeye >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 From miniac7 at aol.com Tue May 17 13:57:51 2011 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:57:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> Message-ID: <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going Sprite? I'm sure mine are original, so I'm wondering if I should consider replacing them as I put on the newly rebuilt shocks when I convert to discs this summer. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: Jack Laird To: Linda Grunthaner ; Steven Guterman Cc: Spridget Chat Group Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 3:42 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs I also bet springs are fine, have the front shocks rebuilt by Peter C. Both of them. Will not have to be done for another 50 years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Steven Guterman" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs > Steve, Frank had sugested I get my shocks from Peter Caldwell, World Wide > Auto Parts, I am glad I did they are perfect. > Lin > > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Steven Guterman > wrote: > >> Happy spring to all, >> >> Finally took the Bugeye of the jack stands, changed the starter, changed >> the >> oil and took it for a short spin. >> >> The right front tire is now hitting the inner fender arch while going >> over >> small bumps. I do not know how old these springs are, they where >> purchased >> on Ebay because the race springs I had where too short. Do the front >> springs get soft over time and just need replacement? Any thoughts if it >> is >> better to buy new springs or use the race springs with lifting blocks to >> get >> the correct height? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> >> 59 Bugeye >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 17 13:59:53 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:59:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going Sprite? Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 17 14:26:34 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:26:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of my MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this without using the Mo$$ kit? Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going > Sprite? > > Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, > Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... > David L From lists at dinospider.com Tue May 17 14:35:24 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:35:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4DD2DC0C.3000204@dinospider.com> eat at McDonalds every day for a month (lunch and dinner, with a few pizza thrown in for good taste) and the cars butt end will be lower itself every time you get your butt in the car. On 05/17/2011 01:26 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of my > MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this without > using the Mo$$ kit? > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going >>> >> Sprite? >> >> Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, >> Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... >> David L >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Tue May 17 15:04:16 2011 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:04:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Two (or more) anvils in the boot? -Anon On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of my > MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this without > using the Mo$$ kit? > > Cheers!! > Jim From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 17 15:16:41 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Facet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <889962361.425027.1305667001542.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Boasting or complaining? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" (Just back from two weeks in England and France) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 17 15:33:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:33:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <4DD2DC0C.3000204@dinospider.com> References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> <4DD2DC0C.3000204@dinospider.com> Message-ID: I'm already 250# Mike... If I get much bigger I'll have to get another Midget for the other foot. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > eat at McDonalds every day for a month (lunch and dinner, with a few pizza > thrown in for good taste) and the cars butt end will be lower itself every > time you get your butt in the car. > > On 05/17/2011 01:26 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of >> my >> MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this >> without >> using the Mo$$ kit? >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going >>>> >>>> >>> Sprite? >>> >>> Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, >>> Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... >>> David L >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 17 15:44:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. Message-ID: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I want to clean the grease and/or off my engines but I have to do it in my driveway. So I would like to know of a product that meets all or most of the following criteria. 1) Sprays on 2) Doesn't harm wiring, paint or plastic components 3) doesn't requitre the engine to be hot 4) washes off with plain water 5) Is biodegradeable 6) Not dangerous to passing fauna - mainly quail and squirrels, the occcasional eagle or fishhawks; sometimes (but not often) coyote or beaver. The rest I don't give a d*mn about! Any (polite) suggestions? Spray-on Gunk? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue May 17 15:50:01 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:50:01 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Coca-cola (not kidding) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Dave KK7SS Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:44:23 To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. I want to clean the grease and/or off my engines but I have to do it in my driveway. So I would like to know of a product that meets all or most of the following criteria. 1) Sprays on 2) Doesn't harm wiring, paint or plastic components 3) doesn't requitre the engine to be hot 4) washes off with plain water 5) Is biodegradeable 6) Not dangerous to passing fauna - mainly quail and squirrels, the occcasional eagle or fishhawks; sometimes (but not often) coyote or beaver. The rest I don't give a d*mn about! Any (polite) suggestions? Spray-on Gunk? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 17 15:52:22 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:52:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Haven't used spray on gunk in a long time... Dunno what's in it these days but it used to be toxic soup. Here's what I do. Go to a car wash. Spray the engine down with either 409 or Simple Green concentrate. Soak it good (some people put a plastic bag over the dizzy)... Once the engine is soaked wash it off but NOT WITH THE REALLY HIGH PRESSURE NEAR YOUR DIZZY OR CARBS. Gunk goes down the drain. Furry critters and surrounding nature are safe.... I clean motorcycles and cars this way all the time. Just remember to never use the high pressure spray anywhere near a place that has gaskets or seals of any kind. Water can blow past them and cause havoc!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I want to clean the grease and/or off my engines but I have to do it in my > driveway. > So I would like to know of a product that meets all or most of the > following criteria. > > 1) Sprays on > 2) Doesn't harm wiring, paint or plastic components > 3) doesn't requitre the engine to be hot > 4) washes off with plain water > 5) Is biodegradeable > 6) Not dangerous to passing fauna - mainly quail and squirrels, the > occcasional eagle or fishhawks; sometimes (but not often) coyote or beaver. > The rest I don't give a d*mn about! > > Any (polite) suggestions? Spray-on Gunk? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From lists at dinospider.com Tue May 17 16:13:07 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:13:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Facet In-Reply-To: <889962361.425027.1305667001542.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <889962361.425027.1305667001542.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DD2F2F3.5050000@dinospider.com> Why did you not tell me you were visiting the UK, there is a motor and gearbox that I really want but the owner is not willing to help with packing/crating/shipping, he insists on a local pickup :( guess he saved me SEVERAL TONS of money but I wanted that motor for my Singer. Oh well, the restoration will continue with a Spridget motor. mike On 05/17/2011 02:16 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Boasting or complaining? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirk Hargreaves" > > (Just back from two weeks in England and France) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From millerls at ado13.com Tue May 17 16:39:28 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:39:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Facet In-Reply-To: References: <112B39A5-2851-4286-B4A2-6DA34F164D13@ado13.com> Message-ID: BUGIIIS is so loud that you can only hear the pumps at idle :-) On May 17, 2011, at 12:16 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> They are switched so that I can run either one or I can run both at the same >> time. I don't see any difference with any of the three configurations. >> >> Before someone asks, I did it just for the hell of it. > > I figured you just liked the noise... > David L From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue May 17 18:02:05 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:02:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> Message-ID: I had not thought of shocks as the problem, but you and Lin may be on to something. Will check on the weekend and report back!! Thanks Steve 59 green bugeye Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Jack Laird" Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:42:10 To: Linda Grunthaner; Steven Guterman Cc: Spridget Chat Group Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs I also bet springs are fine, have the front shocks rebuilt by Peter C. Both of them. Will not have to be done for another 50 years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Steven Guterman" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs > Steve, Frank had sugested I get my shocks from Peter Caldwell, World Wide > Auto Parts, I am glad I did they are perfect. > Lin > > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Steven Guterman > wrote: > >> Happy spring to all, >> >> Finally took the Bugeye of the jack stands, changed the starter, changed >> the >> oil and took it for a short spin. >> >> The right front tire is now hitting the inner fender arch while going >> over >> small bumps. I do not know how old these springs are, they where >> purchased >> on Ebay because the race springs I had where too short. Do the front >> springs get soft over time and just need replacement? Any thoughts if it >> is >> better to buy new springs or use the race springs with lifting blocks to >> get >> the correct height? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> >> 59 Bugeye >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3643 - Release Date: 05/17/11 From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 17 18:17:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1190872627.428360.1305677829128.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> My thanks to all who responded both on and off list. Bearing in mind that I only have my driveway and a garden hose and that the first vehicle to be treated is not yet street-legal (no plates, title, etc..) My first attempt will use the majority suggestion -- Simple Green, My local Big Lots has 1/2 gallons of Simple Green concentrate on sale at $5... So, not much $$ to lose I'll remember to put baggies over the electrical stuff ;) Now all I have to is wait for it to stop raining!! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Chast" To: "Dave KK7SS" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:47:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. Simple Green On Tue, 17 May 2011 17:44:23 -0400, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > I want to clean the grease and/or off my engines but I have to do it in > my driveway. > So I would like to know of a product that meets all or most of the > following criteria. > > 1) Sprays on > 2) Doesn't harm wiring, paint or plastic components > 3) doesn't requitre the engine to be hot > 4) washes off with plain water > 5) Is biodegradeable > 6) Not dangerous to passing fauna - mainly quail and squirrels, the > occcasional eagle or fishhawks; sometimes (but not often) coyote or > beaver. The rest I don't give a d*mn about! > > Any (polite) suggestions? Spray-on Gunk? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 17 18:34:55 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:34:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Gunk works, but your wife will complain about the smell. I like it. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 17 18:36:09 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:36:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here's what I do. Go to a car wash. Spray the engine down with either 409 > or Simple Green concentrate. I'm OK with the smell of Gunk, but I can't stand smelling Simple Green. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 17 18:39:01 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 20:39:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Original "Tuning BMC Sports Cars" Book Mike Garton 6/70 Message-ID: End time: May 23, 2011 8:08:12 AM EDT Browser URL: Original "Tuning BMC Sports Cars" Book Mike Garton 6/70 Jay -An iPhone communication- From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 17 18:52:08 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1102294806.428790.1305679928689.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Got free of the wife over 15 years ago... But I've still got some Gunk -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8EE4B0E4-4414-40A2-84E8-DA9A0BB1AFAE@mac.com> Bag of cement in the boot?? On May 17, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of my > MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this without > using the Mo$$ kit? > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going >> Sprite? >> >> Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, >> Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... >> David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." -Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996 From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 17 19:42:26 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 20:42:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <8EE4B0E4-4414-40A2-84E8-DA9A0BB1AFAE@mac.com> References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> <8EE4B0E4-4414-40A2-84E8-DA9A0BB1AFAE@mac.com> Message-ID: <-2134414280847686906@unknownmsgid> > Bag of cement in the boot?? Are you guys trying to imply that Spridget boots aren't big enough for a body? David L From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 17 20:03:15 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 19:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free Auto Books Message-ID: <416958.71019.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have another exciting offer: Free Car books. Hold onto your seats. If anyone is interested in any of these books, you can have them for the cost of media mail shipping. No strings attached. 1) A. J. Foyt with William Neely - The Life of America's Greatest Race Car Driver (That's the title of the book not my assessment of A. J.) 2) The Jim Gilmore Story - Alone in the Crowd by William Neely (A.J.'s sponsor) 3) Call Me Roger by Albert Lee (No relation to Alvin Lee the guitarist) "The story of how Roger Smith, Chairman of GM, transformed the industry leader into a fallen giant." A satisfying read for anyone who owned a GM product from the 1980's. 4) "King Richard" The Richard Petty Story. The story of a driver that raced in a now defunct series referred to as "Stock Car" racing. Contact me offlist if you're interested. jay fishbein wallingford, ct jay From clarici at verizon.net Tue May 17 20:20:55 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:20:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> <4DD2DC0C.3000204@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <005b01cc1502$38745e10$a95d1a30$@net> 50lb cement bag in the back. We used to do this for winter sprite driving. Seriously if you have a spring shop nearby they can setup the spring to lower the car. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:33 PM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs I'm already 250# Mike... If I get much bigger I'll have to get another Midget for the other foot. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > eat at McDonalds every day for a month (lunch and dinner, with a few pizza > thrown in for good taste) and the cars butt end will be lower itself every > time you get your butt in the car. > > On 05/17/2011 01:26 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of >> my >> MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this >> without >> using the Mo$$ kit? >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going >>>> >>>> >>> Sprite? >>> >>> Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, >>> Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... >>> David L >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue May 17 20:27:56 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 19:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Original "Tuning BMC Sports Cars" Book Mike Garton 6/70 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <75698.87649.qm@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://tinyurl.com/65ht7y5 Great book if you are interested in knowing the original competition parts and mods available for BMC sports cars Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 5/17/11, Jay Fishbein wrote: From: Jay Fishbein Subject: [Spridgets] Original "Tuning BMC Sports Cars" Book Mike Garton 6/70 To: "Spridget List" Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 8:39 PM End time: May 23, 2011 8:08:12 AM EDT Browser URL: Original "Tuning BMC Sports Cars" Book Mike Garton 6/70 Jay -An iPhone communication- Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue May 17 21:01:20 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 03:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1296573317.2091274.1305687680211.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> If you can't go to a car wash, try attaching a garden hose to the hot water inlet for your washing machine. That stuff will never rinse off in cold water. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Jim Johnson" , "Dave KK7SS" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:36:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. > Here's what I do. Go to a car wash. Spray the engine down with either 409 > or Simple Green concentrate. I'm OK with the smell of Gunk, but I can't stand smelling Simple Green. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 17 21:07:43 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:07:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Steam is great. Steam cleaners are not commonplace, though. Squirrels are tree rats. Coyotes kill pets and livestock. Beaver can cause trouble. I'm not familiar with fishhawks but Eagles and Ospreys are good. We have Red Tailed Hawks around here so we have to keep an eye out for our small dog. One perched on our patio for a brief while. I've seen one shred a Pigeon (airborne rat). They have powerful talons. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 17 21:10:29 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:10:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I sit corrected. According to the web fishhawk = Osprey. I sometimes wonder at a local establishment called "Eagle Cleaners". Do they really clean Eagles? How many people have Eagles that need cleaning? From shop at justbrits.com Tue May 17 21:34:51 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:34:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DD33E5B.8010508@justbrits.com> << Beaver can cause trouble. >> G O S P E L ! 'Can' also be quite expensive ! From lmacy at mac.com Tue May 17 21:47:09 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:47:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2C0F83BB-F150-42A2-991E-56D7EA6DF7B9@mac.com> Every football fan in Philadelphia On May 17, 2011, at 11:10 PM, derf wrote: > I sit corrected. According to the web fishhawk = Osprey. > > I sometimes wonder at a local establishment called "Eagle Cleaners". > Do they really clean Eagles? How many people have Eagles that need > cleaning? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!" From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 17 22:03:57 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:03:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Squirrels are tree rats. That's true, and they both make great pets. From aseippel at austin.rr.com Tue May 17 22:22:49 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:22:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <005b01cc1502$38745e10$a95d1a30$@net> References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> <4DD2DC0C.3000204@dinospider.com> <005b01cc1502$38745e10$a95d1a30$@net> Message-ID: <02f401cc1513$3f9edec0$bedc9c40$@rr.com> This reminds me of another place and time about 45 years ago. I was working a flag station at a driver's school at VIR (Virginia International Raceway). It was the last practice race on Sunday on the last lap. The last place driver in a Spitfire was a good thirty to sixty seconds behind all the other cars. In our minds the race was over. All of the corner workers were starting to pack up and were thinking about the drive home. I was the only one looking at the track when the Spitfire lost it in the turn and flipped. There is a lesson there about the race not being over until the last car finishes. Anyway, I ran over with a fire extinguisher got the driver clear of the car and put out a small engine fire. We looked at the car and the rear axle was broken off which explained the rollover. However, the trunk lid was bent double and there was about a hundred pound slab of concrete lying in the middle of the track. It took a while to figure out what happened. This was a completely stock Spitfire. The owner was a college student. He drove the car to the track. He was having handling problems and the instructor suggested he needed something to hold the rear down. The instructor was obviously thinking about a rear sway bar. The driver's solution was the concrete block. The block was just lying loose in the trunk. Can you imagine the handling problems caused by the weight transfer of 100 pounds in the corners when the concrete slid back and forth? The end result was that the college student had to find a way to get 100 miles back to college with a totaled car and no other transportation. I would have liked to have seen him explain to mom and dad how he totaled his car. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frankie Clarici 4th Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:21 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs 50lb cement bag in the back. We used to do this for winter sprite driving. Seriously if you have a spring shop nearby they can setup the spring to lower the car. Frankie From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue May 17 23:08:49 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:08:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! Message-ID: <000001cc1519$ad37e930$07a7bb90$@net> We passed the site of this accident about 10 minutes before it really screwed up traffic. The location is known at the "Orange Crush" at the Interchange of Interstate 5/ State Route 22 Freeways. The right-hand drive XKE with small driver windscreen and large numbers suggest it was a racer. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crash-300728-lanes-yaris.html?pic=1 Buster From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 17 23:26:27 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 05:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! In-Reply-To: <000001cc1519$ad37e930$07a7bb90$@net> Message-ID: <1983288070.431622.1305696387315.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> No right rear wheel! Maybe he didn't have the the knock-on tight enough and that caused the accident. Although the Yatis is damaged in the back and sides... "is a puzzle!" Which driver was being carried away.. the Yaris or the XKE? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Evans" We passed the site of this accident about 10 minutes before it really screwed up traffic. The location is known at the "Orange Crush" at the Interchange of Interstate 5/ State Route 22 Freeways. The right-hand drive XKE with small driver windscreen and large numbers suggest it was a racer. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crash-300728-lanes-yaris.html?pic=1 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 17 23:50:26 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 00:50:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Neither lasted very long around here back when I had my 14 foot Burmese Python.... She would have looked great draped over your shoulder on stage, Billy!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Squirrels are tree rats. > That's true, and they both make great pets. > Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed May 18 05:39:55 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 04:39:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese watermelon content only. Message-ID: BEIJING (AP) - Watermelons have been bursting by the score in eastern China after farmers gave them overdoses of growth chemicals during wet weather, creating what state media called fields of "land mines." About 20 farmers around Danyang city in Jiangsu province were affected, losing up to 115 acres (45 hectares) of melon, China Central Television said in an investigative report. Prices over the past year prompted many farmers to jump into the watermelon market. All of those with exploding melons apparently were first-time users of the growth accelerator forchlorfenuron, though it has been widely available for some time, CCTV said in the report broadcast Monday night. Chinese regulations don't forbid the drug, and it is allowed in the U.S. on kiwi fruit and grapes. But the report underscores how farmers in China are abusing both legal and illegal chemicals, with many farms misusing pesticides and fertilizers. Wang Liangju, a professor with College of Horticulture at Nanjing Agricultural University who has been to Danyang since the problems began to occur, said that forchlorfenuron is safe and effective when used properly. He told The Associated Press that the drug had been used too late into the season, and that recent heavy rain also raised the risk of the fruit cracking open. But he said the variety of melon also played a role. "If it had been used on very young fruit, it wouldn't be a problem," Wang said. "Another reason is that the melon they were planting is a thin-rind variety and these kind are actually nicknamed the 'exploding melon' because they tend to split." Farmer Liu Mingsuo ended up with eight acres (three hectares) of ruined fruit and told CCTV that seeing his crop splitting open was like a knife cutting his heart. "On May 7, I came out and counted 80 (burst watermelons) but by the afternoon it was 100," Liu said. "Two days later I didn't bother to count anymore." Intact watermelons were being sold at a wholesale market in nearby Shanghai, the report said, but even those ones showed telltale signs of forchlorfenuron use: fibrous, misshapen fruit with mostly white instead of black seeds. In March last year, Chinese authorities found that "yard-long" beans from the southern city of Sanya had been treated with the banned pesticide isocarbophos. The tainted beans turned up in several provinces, and the central city of Wuhan announced it destroyed 3.5 tons of the vegetable. The government also has voiced alarm over the widespread overuse of food additives like dyes and sweeteners that retailers hope will make food more attractive and boost sales. Though Chinese media remain under strict government control, domestic coverage of food safety scandals has become more aggressive in recent months, an apparent sign that the government has realized it needs help policing the troubled food industry. The CCTV report on watermelons quoted Feng Shuangqing, a professor at the China Agricultural University, as saying the problem showed that China needs to clarify its farm chemical standards and supervision to protect consumer health. The broadcaster described the watermelons as "land mines" and said they were exploding by the acre (hectare) in the Danyang area. Many of farmers resorted to chopping up the fruit and feeding it to fish and pigs, the report said. From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Wed May 18 07:33:58 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:33:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal><8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com><4DD2DC0C.3000204@dinospider.com><005b01cc1502$38745e10$a95d1a30$@net> <02f401cc1513$3f9edec0$bedc9c40$@rr.com> Message-ID: <97ABE3B13B7348248FC76C21F7940F5E@WOODSTOCK> Jim, Small world. I worked corners at VIR in the late 60's. We probably crossed paths there. I was working the corner at the end of the back straight (don't remember numbers) and watched as John Kelly, lost brakes at the end of the straight and took the Group 44 Spitfire off track, and rode the tree tops down over the hill about 50 yards. Car looked good when they drug it out, but the underneath was wiped clean. I was back to VIR in 2005, boy is that a nice facility now. Remembering the lack of back in the early days. Jeff Kelly (No relation to John) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Seippel" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs > This reminds me of another place and time about 45 years ago. I was > working > a flag station at a driver's school at VIR (Virginia International > Raceway). > It was the last practice race on Sunday on the last lap. The last place > driver in a Spitfire was a good thirty to sixty seconds behind all the > other > cars. > > In our minds the race was over. All of the corner workers were starting to > pack up and were thinking about the drive home. I was the only one looking > at the track when the Spitfire lost it in the turn and flipped. There is a > lesson there about the race not being over until the last car finishes. > > Anyway, I ran over with a fire extinguisher got the driver clear of the > car > and put out a small engine fire. We looked at the car and the rear axle > was > broken off which explained the rollover. However, the trunk lid was bent > double and there was about a hundred pound slab of concrete lying in the > middle of the track. It took a while to figure out what happened. > > This was a completely stock Spitfire. The owner was a college student. He > drove the car to the track. He was having handling problems and the > instructor suggested he needed something to hold the rear down. The > instructor was obviously thinking about a rear sway bar. The driver's > solution was the concrete block. The block was just lying loose in the > trunk. Can you imagine the handling problems caused by the weight transfer > of 100 pounds in the corners when the concrete slid back and forth? > > The end result was that the college student had to find a way to get 100 > miles back to college with a totaled car and no other transportation. I > would have liked to have seen him explain to mom and dad how he totaled > his > car. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frankie Clarici 4th > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:21 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front Springs > > 50lb cement bag in the back. > > We used to do this for winter sprite driving. > > Seriously if you have a spring shop nearby they can setup the spring to > lower the car. > > Frankie > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/homehandy at sbcglobal.net From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 18 08:04:47 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free Auto Books In-Reply-To: <436018.42227.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <416958.71019.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <436018.42227.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <563975.75382.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hold your calls.....we have a winner. I can't divulge his name, but he is 6 feet tall, lives in Pennsylvania, and races an orange Saab. jay From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed May 18 08:22:00 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:22:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <1190872627.428360.1305677829128.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1190872627.428360.1305677829128.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: If the engine runs, heat it up before spraying on the Simple Green. That should soften any caked on crud. Let the SG do it's stuff for a few minutes (a good time for a beer), then go over what you can reach with a small scrub brush. Use a screwdriver to get into all the nooks and crannies. Then hose away. Repeat if necessary in spots. I use an air compressor to get the standing water off the engine, and if it is still a bit warm, the rest will dry quickly. It's important to dry out any water that might get into the dizzy, simply by running the engine. You may want to spray under the cap with some WD40. That's about all it's good for. Good luck, Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > My thanks to all who responded both on and off list. > Bearing in mind that I only have my driveway and a garden hose and that the > first vehicle to be treated is not yet street-legal (no plates, title, > etc..) > My first attempt will use the majority suggestion -- Simple Green, > > My local Big Lots has 1/2 gallons of Simple Green concentrate on sale at > $5... > So, not much $$ to lose > > I'll remember to put baggies over the electrical stuff ;) > > Now all I have to is wait for it to stop raining!! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Chast" > To: "Dave KK7SS" > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:47:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. > > Simple Green > > On Tue, 17 May 2011 17:44:23 -0400, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > > > I want to clean the grease and/or off my engines but I have to do it in > > my driveway. > > So I would like to know of a product that meets all or most of the > > following criteria. > > > > 1) Sprays on > > 2) Doesn't harm wiring, paint or plastic components > > 3) doesn't requitre the engine to be hot > > 4) washes off with plain water > > 5) Is biodegradeable > > 6) Not dangerous to passing fauna - mainly quail and squirrels, the > > occcasional eagle or fishhawks; sometimes (but not often) coyote or > > beaver. The rest I don't give a d*mn about! > > > > Any (polite) suggestions? Spray-on Gunk? > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > DN06ig Richland, WA > > > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > > '65 Sprite - in process > > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed May 18 08:35:15 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:35:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <4DD33E5B.8010508@justbrits.com> References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4DD33E5B.8010508@justbrits.com> Message-ID: DAMN expensive!!!! Ever tried 'purple' stuff'.. Caution, if left on painted surface, pain may be gone. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Beaver can cause trouble. >> > > G O S P E L ! > > 'Can' also be quite expensive ! From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed May 18 08:36:40 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:36:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Free Auto Books In-Reply-To: <563975.75382.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <416958.71019.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <436018.42227.qm@web112701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <563975.75382.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I didn't see "Saab" in the titles! On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Jay wrote: > Hold your calls.....we have a winner. > > I can't divulge his name, but he is 6 feet tall, lives in Pennsylvania, and > races an orange Saab. > > jay From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 18 08:52:19 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:52:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4DD33E5B.8010508@justbrits.com> Message-ID: > DAMN expensive!!!! > > Ever tried 'purple' stuff'.. Caution, if left on painted surface, pain > may > be gone. Yeah, but it's a lot cheaper than surgery. Michael Rowe From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed May 18 09:48:06 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:48:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Room at Victorian Village Resort July 18-22 Message-ID: Family health circumstances are going to keep us from attending the Midget 50th this July. I have a room reserved from the 18th to the 22nd, Lake Side ground floor. I am going to cancel it later today, if anybody is looking for a room drop me a note and we might be able to coordinate the reservation change. I don't know if they are sold out or not. I hate to miss the event but you can't always control circumstances. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From Maine2me at yahoo.com Wed May 18 10:45:25 2011 From: Maine2me at yahoo.com (Dan Dwelley) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <995327.16541.qm@web114105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Stop losing your hair!... http://www.flipperkiste.de/friends_links.php?yzysiteid=96u5 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 18 10:56:29 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:56:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <02f401cc1513$3f9edec0$bedc9c40$@rr.com> Message-ID: > This was a completely stock Spitfire. Those things fell over all the time anyway. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed May 18 10:57:53 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:57:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese watermelon content only. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110518165753.IDXXI.181960.root@cdptpa-web03-z02> What happens if you put those growth chemicals in the gas tank of your LBC? Do you lose the "L"? > BEIJING (AP) - Watermelons have been bursting by the score in eastern China > after farmers gave them overdoses of growth chemicals From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 18 11:25:39 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:25:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese watermelon content only. In-Reply-To: <20110518165753.IDXXI.181960.root@cdptpa-web03-z02> References: <20110518165753.IDXXI.181960.root@cdptpa-web03-z02> Message-ID: > What happens if you put those growth chemicals in the gas tank of your LBC? Do you lose the "L"? Your engine looks at you and says, "What the L?!" David L From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed May 18 11:53:35 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:53:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but beer related Message-ID: There is something wrong with the Queen! http://tinyurl.com/6ef99xh Make sure you watch the video. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed May 18 13:02:24 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:02:24 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese watermelon content only. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110518190224.51XTI.242265.root@hrndva-web08-z02> then it blows up and ruins your season. Chris ---- David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > What happens if you put those growth chemicals in the gas tank of your LBC? > Do you lose the "L"? > > Your engine looks at you and says, "What the L?!" > David L From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 18 14:06:22 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! Message-ID: <1de83.6d9146e9.3b0580be@aol.com> In a message dated 18/05/2011 21:05:56 GMT Daylight Time, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com writes: Or maybe not or things are different in the USA to UK. Over here no self respecting racer will drive on the public highway with racing numbers and in fact there is possibly a motorsports penalty for doing so. I see a rear wheel is missing. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 18/05/2011 06:18:01 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: We passed the site of this accident about 10 minutes before it really screwed up traffic. The location is known at the "Orange Crush" at the Interchange of Interstate 5/ State Route 22 Freeways. The right-hand drive XKE with small driver windscreen and large numbers suggest it was a racer. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crash-300728-lanes-yaris.html?pic=1 Buster From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 18 14:07:54 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. Message-ID: <1dfc7.50a091d6.3b05811a@aol.com> only if you get caught! In a message dated 18/05/2011 04:18:44 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Beaver can cause trouble. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 18 14:22:16 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:22:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: <02f401cc1513$3f9edec0$bedc9c40$@rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks all, I was having a tough time deciding what to try first, re-build the shocks or place a cinder blocks in the boot. After careful analysis and reading about the flipped spitfire I call Peter C and ordered a set of front shocks. Will report back once installed. Steve On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > This was a completely stock Spitfire. > Those things fell over all the time anyway. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 18 15:01:12 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics - bugeye dash In-Reply-To: <4DD2AC11.1050904@justbrits.com> References: <002301cc149d$161297c0$4237c740$@net> <202231.7276.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <005001cc14aa$eafb8610$c0f29230$@net> <20110517162614.B93C51878C7@autox.team.net> <4DD2AC11.1050904@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Come on if you are real worried, just wear sunglasses and driving gloves. Your just looking for an excuse not to polish em' up. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << They polish up really nice with a buffing wheel. >> > > And WILL remind you at a VERY FAST pace, that on the 98 degree > sunny day that you should NOT have put your hand anywhere NEAR > it !!! LMAO !! > > Oh yeah, and about the car going thru the intersection that you did > NOT see because of a "flash" from the pretty chrome-like finish > blinded you just temporally won't cause any problem !!! > WAIT, damn the guy's got a GUN !!!!!!! > > Ah, it's OK 'cause it > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From robert.duquette at me.com Wed May 18 15:04:17 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <1dfc7.50a091d6.3b05811a@aol.com> Message-ID: <79458b44-7ba1-e9e2-9319-ce092d47ac49@me.com> Pardon me if I'm a bit behind. Is this the kind of trouble you're talking about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y09YOkVmGg0 Robert D On May 18, 2011, at 04:07 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: only if you get caught! In a message dated 18/05/2011 04:18:44 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Beaver can cause trouble. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: robert.duquette at me.com'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robert.duquette at me.com From robert.duquette at me.com Wed May 18 15:06:50 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <1102294806.428790.1305679928689.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Penicillin doesn't get rid of it? Robert D On May 17, 2011, at 08:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: Got free of the wife over 15 years ago... But I've still got some Gunk -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robert.duquette at me.com From rdgard at cox.net Wed May 18 15:18:36 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:18:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 7 Dwarfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A recent study has proven that out of all 7 Dwarfs, only one was Happy! bob Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Oh yeah... Lessee... Lucky, Stinky, Mucky, Greasy, Lumpy, Crappy and Skunk. There. I think I remembered them all..... ***************************************** From robert.duquette at me.com Wed May 18 15:18:19 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6e132cc3-9074-e4fe-cda3-9770812b60b5@me.com> No mention of cougars ... http://blip.fm/profile/mitchellmckenna/blip/1626174 Robert D On May 17, 2011, at 11:07 PM, derf wrote: Steam is great. Steam cleaners are not commonplace, though. Squirrels are tree rats. Coyotes kill pets and livestock. Beaver can cause trouble. I'm not familiar with fishhawks but Eagles and Ospreys are good. We have Red Tailed Hawks around here so we have to keep an eye out for our small dog. One perched on our patio for a brief while. I've seen one shred a Pigeon (airborne rat). They have powerful talons. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: robert.duquette at me.com'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robert.duquette at me.com From lists at dinospider.com Wed May 18 15:27:58 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:27:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping Message-ID: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> I know this has been talked about before but its been a while and things change. I need to figure out how to ship a motor and tranny from Stroud, Gloucestershire to S. Calif. I am looking at buying a running motor/gearbox to put into my car (its not Spridget related), the seller initially was not willing to help with crating and shipping but now is saying he will help but I am not sure how much he is willing to help. It would be nice if I could help from this end with information. Also any guess on the cost ? The 2 items are separated right now, could be shipping in one box or 2. Its a 4cyl. 972cc motor with all its ancillaries attached and one gearbox, no guess on the actual weight, I have never one of these motors in person, my motor was in bits and pieces (lots of pieces, like the crank was in 2 pieces, the block was in 3 pieces). Wifey, is not happy, I spent a LOT of money putting a 1098cc motor together for this car and its not even run yet and after 14 years of looking I finally found a motor. I am also torn because the Spridget motor would allow me to drive this car anywhere/anytime and not worry about breakage but with the original motor I would drive it more sparingly I think but originality is a plus for me. mike From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 18 15:42:28 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:42:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Well are you going to tell us what the engine is for? Will not be cheap to ship. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Rambour Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:27:58 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping I know this has been talked about before but its been a while and things change. I need to figure out how to ship a motor and tranny from Stroud, Gloucestershire to S. Calif. I am looking at buying a running motor/gearbox to put into my car (its not Spridget related), the seller initially was not willing to help with crating and shipping but now is saying he will help but I am not sure how much he is willing to help. It would be nice if I could help from this end with information. Also any guess on the cost ? The 2 items are separated right now, could be shipping in one box or 2. Its a 4cyl. 972cc motor with all its ancillaries attached and one gearbox, no guess on the actual weight, I have never one of these motors in person, my motor was in bits and pieces (lots of pieces, like the crank was in 2 pieces, the block was in 3 pieces). Wifey, is not happy, I spent a LOT of money putting a 1098cc motor together for this car and its not even run yet and after 14 years of looking I finally found a motor. I am also torn because the Spridget motor would allow me to drive this car anywhere/anytime and not worry about breakage but with the original motor I would drive it more sparingly I think but originality is a plus for me. mike _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 18 15:46:18 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:46:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story Message-ID: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> Ibve been getting a lot of phishing emails lately that are slipping past my spam filter. Anybody else? My filter used to catch nearly all of these things only letting one slip thru every couple of months. In the last few weeks, I am getting two or three a day that come thru. Have these scumbags found a way to defeat the filters? Itbs not some idiot trying to sell me fake Rolexes or Viagra b only phishing emails. And they are really lame attempts making it hard to believe they are sharp enough to defeat my spam filter. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 18 15:55:27 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:55:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story In-Reply-To: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> References: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> Message-ID: <-1874608494618133394@unknownmsgid> I believe this to be a result of the breach at the company that Citibank et al used for marketing. David L On May 18, 2011, at 16:46, Larry Daniels wrote: > Ibve been getting a lot of phishing emails lately that are slipping past my > spam filter. Anybody else? > > My filter used to catch nearly all of these things only letting one slip thru > every couple of months. In the last few weeks, I am getting two or three a > day that come thru. Have these scumbags found a way to defeat the filters? > > Itbs not some idiot trying to sell me fake Rolexes or Viagra b only > phishing emails. And they are really lame attempts making it hard to believe > they are sharp enough to defeat my spam filter. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget at gmail.com From lists at dinospider.com Wed May 18 16:11:50 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:11:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <16271561-1305754948-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2030740255-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> <16271561-1305754948-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2030740255-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <4DD44426.1040307@dinospider.com> Not cheap to buy either !!! its for my 1934 Singer Le Mans, the motor came out of a 33 Singer Sports and is a slight mish-mash of parts, some parts from a 1935-36 motor but I have all the 1934 parts to make it right from the remains of my destroyed original motor. Its a running, ready to drop in motor/gearbox assembly. Has a few mods I would keep like the modified flywheel to attach a MGB clutch and I most likely would keep the generator that has been modified to fit with the original magneto housing (although again I have my magneto from my original motor). It has a modern crank which is the very weak point of Singer's with their 2 bearing mains, the new cranks with modern metallurgy are quite strong, it also has a new manufactured head and I am told it runs well. Its not cheap and I know the shipping will not be cheap, my wife is against it and has said "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when you need money for something on the car don't come to me and ask for it because you wasted it on a motor". This motor will blow more than half my budget for the car, like I said originality means something to me, its the drive ability that concerns me, the Spridget motor I could drive anywhere/anytime. mike On 05/18/2011 02:42 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > Well are you going to tell us what the engine is for? > > Will not be cheap to ship. > > Steve > Sent from me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Rambour > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:27:58 > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping > > I know this has been talked about before but its been a while and > things change. > > I need to figure out how to ship a motor and tranny from Stroud, > Gloucestershire to S. Calif. I am looking at buying a running > motor/gearbox to put into my car (its not Spridget related), the seller > initially was not willing to help with crating and shipping but now is > saying he will help but I am not sure how much he is willing to help. > It would be nice if I could help from this end with information. > > Also any guess on the cost ? The 2 items are separated right now, > could be shipping in one box or 2. Its a 4cyl. 972cc motor with all > its ancillaries attached and one gearbox, no guess on the actual weight, > I have never one of these motors in person, my motor was in bits and > pieces (lots of pieces, like the crank was in 2 pieces, the block was in > 3 pieces). > > Wifey, is not happy, I spent a LOT of money putting a 1098cc motor > together for this car and its not even run yet and after 14 years of > looking I finally found a motor. I am also torn because the Spridget > motor would allow me to drive this car anywhere/anytime and not worry > about breakage but with the original motor I would drive it more > sparingly I think but originality is a plus for me. > > mike > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 18 16:18:58 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:18:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <4DD44426.1040307@dinospider.com> References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com><16271561-1305754948-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2030740255-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> <4DD44426.1040307@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <7FDB188C360743F38C952D9EDAF26A1E@HomePC> Mike, you could sell me your Dino. That would give you plenty of money for your Singer! ;-) LAD -----Original Message----- From: Mike Rambour Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:11 PM To: an5.sprite at gmail.com Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Not cheap to buy either !!! its for my 1934 Singer Le Mans, the motor came out of a 33 Singer Sports and is a slight mish-mash of parts, some parts from a 1935-36 motor but I have all the 1934 parts to make it right from the remains of my destroyed original motor. Its a running, ready to drop in motor/gearbox assembly. Has a few mods I would keep like the modified flywheel to attach a MGB clutch and I most likely would keep the generator that has been modified to fit with the original magneto housing (although again I have my magneto from my original motor). It has a modern crank which is the very weak point of Singer's with their 2 bearing mains, the new cranks with modern metallurgy are quite strong, it also has a new manufactured head and I am told it runs well. Its not cheap and I know the shipping will not be cheap, my wife is against it and has said "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when you need money for something on the car don't come to me and ask for it because you wasted it on a motor". This motor will blow more than half my budget for the car, like I said originality means something to me, its the drive ability that concerns me, the Spridget motor I could drive anywhere/anytime. mike On 05/18/2011 02:42 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > Well are you going to tell us what the engine is for? > > Will not be cheap to ship. > > Steve > Sent from me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Rambour > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:27:58 > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping > > I know this has been talked about before but its been a while and > things change. > > I need to figure out how to ship a motor and tranny from Stroud, > Gloucestershire to S. Calif. I am looking at buying a running > motor/gearbox to put into my car (its not Spridget related), the seller > initially was not willing to help with crating and shipping but now is > saying he will help but I am not sure how much he is willing to help. > It would be nice if I could help from this end with information. > > Also any guess on the cost ? The 2 items are separated right now, > could be shipping in one box or 2. Its a 4cyl. 972cc motor with all > its ancillaries attached and one gearbox, no guess on the actual weight, > I have never one of these motors in person, my motor was in bits and > pieces (lots of pieces, like the crank was in 2 pieces, the block was in > 3 pieces). > > Wifey, is not happy, I spent a LOT of money putting a 1098cc motor > together for this car and its not even run yet and after 14 years of > looking I finally found a motor. I am also torn because the Spridget > motor would allow me to drive this car anywhere/anytime and not worry > about breakage but with the original motor I would drive it more > sparingly I think but originality is a plus for me. > > mike > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:24:42 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:24:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <4DD44426.1040307@dinospider.com> References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> <16271561-1305754948-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2030740255-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> <4DD44426.1040307@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Just googled 1934 singers and found a 33 Le Mans. Long hood for a 4 banger!! BUdgets create all sorts of problem!!! Good luck and post pictures. Maybe not spridget but close enough. Steve On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > > Not cheap to buy either !!! > > its for my 1934 Singer Le Mans, the motor came out of a 33 Singer Sports > and is a slight mish-mash of parts, some parts from a 1935-36 motor but I > have all the 1934 parts to make it right from the remains of my destroyed > original motor. Its a running, ready to drop in motor/gearbox assembly. > Has a few mods I would keep like the modified flywheel to attach a MGB > clutch and I most likely would keep the generator that has been modified to > fit with the original magneto housing (although again I have my magneto from > my original motor). It has a modern crank which is the very weak point of > Singer's with their 2 bearing mains, the new cranks with modern metallurgy > are quite strong, it also has a new manufactured head and I am told it runs > well. Its not cheap and I know the shipping will not be cheap, my wife is > against it and has said "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when > you need money for something on the car don't come to me and ask for it > because you wasted it on a motor". This motor will blow more than half my > budget for the car, like I said originality means something to me, its the > drive ability that concerns me, the Spridget motor I could drive > anywhere/anytime. > > mike > > > > On 05/18/2011 02:42 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > >> Well are you going to tell us what the engine is for? >> >> Will not be cheap to ship. >> >> Steve >> Sent from me. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Rambour >> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:27:58 >> To: Spridgets >> Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping >> >> I know this has been talked about before but its been a while and >> things change. >> >> I need to figure out how to ship a motor and tranny from Stroud, >> Gloucestershire to S. Calif. I am looking at buying a running >> motor/gearbox to put into my car (its not Spridget related), the seller >> initially was not willing to help with crating and shipping but now is >> saying he will help but I am not sure how much he is willing to help. >> It would be nice if I could help from this end with information. >> >> Also any guess on the cost ? The 2 items are separated right now, >> could be shipping in one box or 2. Its a 4cyl. 972cc motor with all >> its ancillaries attached and one gearbox, no guess on the actual weight, >> I have never one of these motors in person, my motor was in bits and >> pieces (lots of pieces, like the crank was in 2 pieces, the block was in >> 3 pieces). >> >> Wifey, is not happy, I spent a LOT of money putting a 1098cc motor >> together for this car and its not even run yet and after 14 years of >> looking I finally found a motor. I am also torn because the Spridget >> motor would allow me to drive this car anywhere/anytime and not worry >> about breakage but with the original motor I would drive it more >> sparingly I think but originality is a plus for me. >> >> mike >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:25:54 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:25:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story In-Reply-To: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> References: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> Message-ID: I will second that, Just getting it to this email address and not my others. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Ib ve been getting a lot of phishing emails lately that are slipping past > my > spam filter. Anybody else? > > My filter used to catch nearly all of these things only letting one slip > thru > every couple of months. In the last few weeks, I am getting two or three a > day that come thru. Have these scumbags found a way to defeat the filters? > > Itb s not some idiot trying to sell me fake Rolexes or Viagra b only > phishing emails. And they are really lame attempts making it hard to > believe > they are sharp enough to defeat my spam filter. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Wed May 18 16:31:05 2011 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:31:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20110518223116.3B142187650@autox.team.net> Jim: Now that Frank is gone, I plan to campaign for the presidency of the We Tight Club. I don't like to pay someone to do something I can do (or learn to do) myself or fabricate myself. Seems like you received no serious answers to your wanting to lower your rear end. When I built my '67 vintage racer 20 years ago, I used hand-me-down SCCA coils in front. They were shorter than stock but tested out to be 585 foot/pounds which is what I wanted. I needed to lower the rear so the car was level for handling and center of gravity purposes. My solution should work for anybody. I found some metal of various thicknesses that was the same width as the springs and cut it into four inch long pieces. With 150 lbs in the driver's seat (three cement bags) to replicate my weight, two 1/8 th inch and two 3/16 th inch thick spacers on the right side brought the car to level, i.e. equal heights left to right when measured at the bottom of the rocker panels. Two additional 1/8 th inch spacers on each side then brought the rear down to the same height as the front, measured at the front and rear, left and right of the bottom of the rocker panels. The spacers mount between the flat boss on the axle housing and the top of the leaf. I bought two U-bolts that were long enough to accommodate the new dimensions, and cut off the excess threaded ends after I reinstalled the stock plates and rubber insulators. Of course, since the '67 has square wheel arches, I also added a Panhard bar, pushed out the outer fender as far as I could with a bottle jack, rolled the inner lip, and am using offset leaf springs - all to allow the 5.5" wheels and A70 tires. This arrangement has been in place for the 20 years I have been racing the car and I have experienced no problems with inside or outside rubbing. Lowering the rear also gave me better rear visibility because the sheet metal that accommodates the convertible top on this year model adds almost 2 inches in line with the rear view mirror. Spend some time studying the way the springs are mounted on the axle and where to add the spacers, and the job becomes clear and straight forward. Fabrication is also simple and straight forward, other than acquiring enough metal of the correct width and thickness. I'd be glad to send you digital photos if it would help. Safety Fast, Bob Spruck At 04:26 PM 5/17/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of my >MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this without >using the Mo$$ kit? > >Cheers!! >Jim > >On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going > > Sprite? > > > > Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, > > Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... > > David L >_______________________________________________ From lists at dinospider.com Wed May 18 16:58:04 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:58:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> <16271561-1305754948-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2030740255-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> <4DD44426.1040307@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <4DD44EFC.4050203@dinospider.com> Be careful looking up pictures of these cars, there were 6 cylinder cars at 1.5 Litres and 4 cylinder cars with 972cc's. The picture you looked at could have been a 1.5 litre car with the long hood. There is quite a bit of difference between the 2 even though they were both Singer Le Mans's, the frame is different and much beefier on the 6 cylinder car and the body bigger all around, they shared nothing in the design even though they had the same model name except for similar looks. I don't think you can't post pictures here and besides we are off Spridget subject already but I of course have websites for both my Singer's, if you are really interested let me know off list and I will give you the URL's mike On 05/18/2011 03:24 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > Just googled 1934 singers and found a 33 Le Mans. Long hood for a 4 > banger!! BUdgets create all sorts of problem!!! > > Good luck and post pictures. Maybe not spridget but close enough. > > Steve From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 18 17:10:33 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story In-Reply-To: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> Message-ID: <206940.22874.qm@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I prefer the original Grateful Dead emails to the ripoff Phish ones! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/18/11, Larry Daniels wrote: From: Larry Daniels Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story To: "Spridgets List" Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 5:46 PM Ibve been getting a lot of phishing emails lately that are slipping past my spam filter. Anybody else? From george.brokaw at cox.net Wed May 18 17:14:43 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:14:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 7 Dwarfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05eb01cc15b1$5f2e0d30$1d8a2790$@brokaw@cox.net> I thought it was 6 out of 7 Dwarfs were not Happy? ;^) -----Original Message----- A recent study has proven that out of all 7 Dwarfs, only one was Happy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Oh yeah... Lessee... Lucky, Stinky, Mucky, Greasy, Lumpy, Crappy and Skunk. There. I think I remembered them all..... ***************************************** From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 18 17:34:13 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:34:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story In-Reply-To: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> References: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> Message-ID: <75C9432031EC4757B67172CCC1B5CDEE@Home> I, too, have been getting e-mails that are tagged by my software. I see that they come from someone (??) on this list or the Roadtrek list. Either they are misdiagnosed by my filter, or they have sneaked through as some kind of attachment from a member. Michael Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story > Ibve been getting a lot of phishing emails lately that are slipping past > my > spam filter. Anybody else? > > My filter used to catch nearly all of these things only letting one slip > thru > every couple of months. In the last few weeks, I am getting two or three > a > day that come thru. Have these scumbags found a way to defeat the > filters? > > Itbs not some idiot trying to sell me fake Rolexes or Viagra b only > phishing emails. And they are really lame attempts making it hard to > believe > they are sharp enough to defeat my spam filter. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mdrowe at optonline.net From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 18 17:48:17 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver Message-ID: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm going to be traveling to Denver in the summer. If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is shopping, I would be most grateful. TIA, jay From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 18 17:53:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 23:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver In-Reply-To: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1968300554.443928.1305762789387.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Remember -- you're the one that opened the door! Main St, USa always has stuff to offer.. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is shopping, From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 18 18:22:26 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 00:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver In-Reply-To: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1258108958.2107080.1305764546102.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Definitely allow a day to visit the Garden of the Gods, but take your wife with you. It is the most incredibly beautiful collection of red rock formations that you will ever see anywhere. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:48:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver I'm going to be traveling to Denver in the summer. If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is shopping, I would be most grateful. TIA, jay Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 18 18:44:17 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:44:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <4DD44EFC.4050203@dinospider.com> References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> <16271561-1305754948-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2030740255-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> <4DD44426.1040307@dinospider.com> <4DD44EFC.4050203@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Mike... Third marriage here... Allow me to translate.... "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when you need money for something on the car don't come to me and ask for it because you wasted it on a motor" Translation: "You complete and total idiot! If you do this it's going to be as cold in the bed room (if I ever let in in again) as the winter of 1947." Just so you know ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > Be careful looking up pictures of these cars, there were 6 cylinder cars > at 1.5 Litres and 4 cylinder cars with 972cc's. The picture you looked at > could have been a 1.5 litre car with the long hood. There is quite a bit of > difference between the 2 even though they were both Singer Le Mans's, the > frame is different and much beefier on the 6 cylinder car and the body > bigger all around, they shared nothing in the design even though they had > the same model name except for similar looks. > > I don't think you can't post pictures here and besides we are off Spridget > subject already but I of course have websites for both my Singer's, if you > are really interested let me know off list and I will give you the URL's > > mike > > > On 05/18/2011 03:24 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > >> Just googled 1934 singers and found a 33 Le Mans. Long hood for a 4 >> banger!! BUdgets create all sorts of problem!!! >> >> Good luck and post pictures. Maybe not spridget but close enough. >> >> Steve >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 18 18:48:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:48:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story In-Reply-To: <75C9432031EC4757B67172CCC1B5CDEE@Home> References: <94EB668A0D0446D0B20C7E0638F08F08@HomePC> <75C9432031EC4757B67172CCC1B5CDEE@Home> Message-ID: I cannot tell a lie. It isn't me. Yes, I'm suddenly getting a lot of "we have 500,000 pounds Sterling registered to your email address....." Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I, too, have been getting e-mails that are tagged by my software. I see > that they come from someone (??) on this list or the Roadtrek list. Either > they are misdiagnosed by my filter, or they have sneaked through as some > kind of attachment from a member. > > Michael Rowe > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" < > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> > > To: "Spridgets List" > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:46 PM > > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC; A Phish Story > > > Ib ve been getting a lot of phishing emails lately that are slipping past >> my >> spam filter. Anybody else? >> >> My filter used to catch nearly all of these things only letting one slip >> thru >> every couple of months. In the last few weeks, I am getting two or three >> a >> day that come thru. Have these scumbags found a way to defeat the >> filters? >> >> Itb s not some idiot trying to sell me fake Rolexes or Viagra b only >> phishing emails. And they are really lame attempts making it hard to >> believe >> they are sharp enough to defeat my spam filter. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mdrowe at optonline.net >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From millerls at ado13.com Wed May 18 18:58:41 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:58:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver In-Reply-To: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <05A7BBEC-EC0D-4C1B-809D-FBDF46402E34@ado13.com> Go down to the springs and take a run up pike's peak. On May 18, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Jay wrote: > I'm going to be traveling to Denver in the summer. > > If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is shopping, > I would be most grateful. > > TIA, > > jay From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 18 18:59:18 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:59:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver In-Reply-To: <1258108958.2107080.1305764546102.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1258108958.2107080.1305764546102.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: But Garden of the Gods is in Colorado Springs..... I hate to say it, Jay, but I never go to Denver if I can avoid it. Colorado Springs (Old Colorado City - Garden of the Gods - Air Force Academy), Boulder (Pearl St.), Golden (Coors Brewery tour) - but NEVER Denver. It is the Ghetto of Colorado. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:22 PM, wrote: > Definitely allow a day to visit the Garden of the Gods, but take your wife > with you. It is the most incredibly beautiful collection of red rock > formations that you will ever see anywhere. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:48:17 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver > > I'm going to be traveling to Denver in the summer. > > If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is > shopping, > I would be most grateful. > > TIA, > > jay > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 18 19:00:19 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:00:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver In-Reply-To: <05A7BBEC-EC0D-4C1B-809D-FBDF46402E34@ado13.com> References: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <05A7BBEC-EC0D-4C1B-809D-FBDF46402E34@ado13.com> Message-ID: Better walk... It's over 14,000 feet and Jay is no spring chicken ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > Go down to the springs and take a run up pike's peak. > > On May 18, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Jay wrote: > > > I'm going to be traveling to Denver in the summer. > > > > If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is > shopping, > > I would be most grateful. > > > > TIA, > > > > jay > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 18 19:08:17 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:08:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <4DD46D81.2030708@justbrits.com> << I am also torn because the Spridget motor would allow me to drive this car anywhere/anytime and not worry about breakage but with the original motor I would drive it more sparingly..... >> As Mr. Lieb can attest Mike, yer "excuse" for NOT having a Seven with a CORRECT motor is LAME !!! SEE: http://www.justbrits.com/cars/Austin7s.html just to "ease" your mind !!!!! LOL, how soon folks FORGET !! Me From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed May 18 19:30:15 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:30:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> References: <4DD439DE.7020109@dinospider.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: I need to figure out how to ship a motor and tranny from Stroud, Gloucestershire to S. Calif. Its a 4cyl. 972cc motor with all its ancillaries attached and one gearbox, no guess on the actual weight, _______________________________________________ Mike, I shipped a 1275 to Andy Webster (lister) down under a few years ago. He did the leg work and told me where to get it to in NJ. He found a transporter who charged by the cubic meter for container space. I strapped it to a wooden pallet. A Rivergate 5 speed kit was also strapped to the pallet. Both were covered with a cardboard box that was stapled to the pallet. There was plenty of room for a tranny without the 5 speed kit. I tried to find a plastic or metal pallet so it would not have to be quarantined but couldn't come up with one. If the motor is complete, it must be drained of oil and anti-freeze. Hazmat crap rules... After a long boat ride and some time in solitary, Andy picked it up and AFAIK is still running it in his car. Maybe he'll see this and send some pointers on the shipping. I think it was about $300 to get it to NJ from Cincinnati and $400-500 for the boat ride. Not sure so don't hold it against me when yours is more! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 18 19:39:27 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 01:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <1409566662.2108685.1305769072270.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1742413060.2108711.1305769167845.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Allow a wife (well, I was a wife before I became a widow) to give you a real translation. "Great bargain, Honey! While you're waiting for it to arrive, you can pull the steering column off my truck and track down the short" Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:44:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Mike... Third marriage here... Allow me to translate.... "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when you need money for something on the car don't come to me and ask for it because you wasted it on a motor" Translation: "You complete and total idiot! If you do this it's going to be as cold in the bed room (if I ever let in in again) as the winter of 1947." Just so you know ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > Be careful looking up pictures of these cars, there were 6 cylinder cars > at 1.5 Litres and 4 cylinder cars with 972cc's. The picture you looked at > could have been a 1.5 litre car with the long hood. There is quite a bit of > difference between the 2 even though they were both Singer Le Mans's, the > frame is different and much beefier on the 6 cylinder car and the body > bigger all around, they shared nothing in the design even though they had > the same model name except for similar looks. > > I don't think you can't post pictures here and besides we are off Spridget > subject already but I of course have websites for both my Singer's, if you > are really interested let me know off list and I will give you the URL's > > mike > > > On 05/18/2011 03:24 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > >> Just googled 1934 singers and found a 33 Le Mans. Long hood for a 4 >> banger!! BUdgets create all sorts of problem!!! >> >> Good luck and post pictures. Maybe not spridget but close enough. >> >> Steve >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From lmacy at mac.com Wed May 18 19:48:34 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:48:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver In-Reply-To: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <485934.66888.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Red Rocks for a Concert, Rocky Mtn National Park (take her shopping in Estes Park). Larry On May 18, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Jay wrote: > I'm going to be traveling to Denver in the summer. > > If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is shopping, > I would be most grateful. > > TIA, > > jay > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 From lists at dinospider.com Wed May 18 20:03:38 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:03:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <1742413060.2108711.1305769167845.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1742413060.2108711.1305769167845.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DD47A7A.3030705@dinospider.com> Actually it was, I am sick and tired of the drivers electric window being broken (don't know why its only been 2 years), so get a new regulator and motor installed before the weekend and then lets talk. :) mike On 5/18/2011 6:39 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > Allow a wife (well, I was a wife before I became a widow) to give you a real translation. "Great bargain, Honey! While you're waiting for it to arrive, you can pull the steering column off my truck and track down the short" > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:44:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping > > Mike... > > Third marriage here... Allow me to translate.... > > "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when you need money for > something on the car don't come to me and ask for it because you wasted it > on a motor" > > Translation: "You complete and total idiot! If you do this it's going to be > as cold in the bed room (if I ever let in in again) as the winter of 1947." > > Just so you know ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > >> Be careful looking up pictures of these cars, there were 6 cylinder cars >> at 1.5 Litres and 4 cylinder cars with 972cc's. The picture you looked at >> could have been a 1.5 litre car with the long hood. There is quite a bit of >> difference between the 2 even though they were both Singer Le Mans's, the >> frame is different and much beefier on the 6 cylinder car and the body >> bigger all around, they shared nothing in the design even though they had >> the same model name except for similar looks. >> >> I don't think you can't post pictures here and besides we are off Spridget >> subject already but I of course have websites for both my Singer's, if you >> are really interested let me know off list and I will give you the URL's >> >> mike >> >> >> On 05/18/2011 03:24 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: >> >>> Just googled 1934 singers and found a 33 Le Mans. Long hood for a 4 >>> banger!! BUdgets create all sorts of problem!!! >>> >>> Good luck and post pictures. Maybe not spridget but close enough. >>> >>> Steve >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed May 18 20:10:57 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:10:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My BugNidget, NisBugidget, MidBugSanGet? In-Reply-To: <4dd43fa8.ce5f340a.242a.1fe2@mx.google.com> References: <4dd43fa8.ce5f340a.242a.1fe2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Its the A15 from the Datsun 210. It has the A14 performance head and dual hif4 SU's. Rick (vroom) Bastedo On May 18, 2011 2:52 PM, "grunthaner at gmail.com" wrote: > I did not know the b210 engine can fit our spirites very cool she must have some power. > Lin > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Rick Bastedo" > To: "Linda Grunthaner" > Subject: [Spridgets] My BugNidget, NisBugidget, MidBugSanGet? > Date: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:53 am > I'm in north western Washington State. > The engine and transmission (5 speed dogleg) are out of a Datsun 210. > > Rick > > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Good for you Rick, thanks for the photo looks good. Aren't you a local to me NY? Which part is Nissan? > Lin > > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > > Well BillM and I did some cutting today and bolted up a Bugeye bonnet to my > > > 78 Midget. > > So now it's part Midget, part Bugeye and part Nissan. > > Once it's all the same color it will look a lot better. > > I have turn signals and light buckets, need headlight trim rings and rubber > > headlight seals. > > Lots of work to be done! > > This is getting to be fun! > > > > http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/25270/filename/bugidget01.jpg > > > > > > Rick (idget) Bastedo > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed May 18 20:19:58 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:19:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 7 Dwarfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's not as bad as the statistics may first lead you to believe. While it's true that 6 out of 7 dwarves are not Happy, only 1 out of 7 are actually Grumpy. From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed May 18 23:04:46 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:04:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 7 Dwarfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't believe you can say "happy" anymore...not PC. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 19 00:57:36 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 01:57:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 7 Dwarfs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's Dopey! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:04 AM, WFO Herb wrote: > I don't believe you can say "happy" anymore...not PC. > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From lotuspilot at frontier.com Thu May 19 05:10:40 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! In-Reply-To: <1378023990.451665.1305803017350.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1031507126.451710.1305803440073.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> You are suggesting that if you have an original old warrior with a racing past and is still wearing "the past", a person should be ashamed when going for a blast on the streets in between vintage races or simply for the fun of using the car? This sounds like a personal viewpoint that you have and I doubt is widespread. I know of quite a few old racers that sometimes take to the road with numbers as they are painted on. Please do explain the possible motorsports penalty. I thought that they only have control over what is done during their sanctioned races. Interesting. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:06:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! In a message dated 18/05/2011 21:05:56 GMT Daylight Time, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com writes: Or maybe not or things are different in the USA to UK. Over here no self respecting racer will drive on the public highway with racing numbers and in fact there is possibly a motorsports penalty for doing so. I see a rear wheel is missing. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 18/05/2011 06:18:01 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: We passed the site of this accident about 10 minutes before it really screwed up traffic. The location is known at the "Orange Crush" at the Interchange of Interstate 5/ State Route 22 Freeways. The right-hand drive XKE with small driver windscreen and large numbers suggest it was a racer. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crash-300728-lanes-yaris.html?pic=1 Buster _______________________________________________ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu May 19 07:29:38 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:29:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <1742413060.2108711.1305769167845.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1409566662.2108685.1305769072270.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net><1742413060.2108711.1305769167845.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Allow a husband who took a long time to figure this out to amplify Kate's response. Fixing the steering wheel short is expected, you will do it because you enjoy (in her mind) working on cars. Now surprise her with a nice necklace and all will be good..... Steven Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 19 May 2011 01:39:27 Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Allow a wife (well, I was a wife before I became a widow) to give you a real translation. "Great bargain, Honey! While you're waiting for it to arrive, you can pull the steering column off my truck and track down the short" Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:44:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Mike... Third marriage here... Allow me to translate.... "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when you need money for something on the car don't come to me and ask for it because you wasted it on a motor" Translation: "You complete and total idiot! If you do this it's going to be as cold in the bed room (if I ever let in in again) as the winter of 1947." Just so you know ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > Be careful looking up pictures of these cars, there were 6 cylinder cars > at 1.5 Litres and 4 cylinder cars with 972cc's. The picture you looked at > could have been a 1.5 litre car with the long hood. There is quite a bit of > difference between the 2 even though they were both Singer Le Mans's, the > frame is different and much beefier on the 6 cylinder car and the body > bigger all around, they shared nothing in the design even though they had > the same model name except for similar looks. > > I don't think you can't post pictures here and besides we are off Spridget > subject already but I of course have websites for both my Singer's, if you > are really interested let me know off list and I will give you the URL's > > mike > > > On 05/18/2011 03:24 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > >> Just googled 1934 singers and found a 33 Le Mans. Long hood for a 4 >> banger!! BUdgets create all sorts of problem!!! >> >> Good luck and post pictures. Maybe not spridget but close enough. >> >> Steve >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From davriker at nwi.net Thu May 19 08:01:07 2011 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 07:01:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: No one mentioned my favorite: Spray on Wheel cleaner for painted wheels. Follow the directions as if you were cleaning nice clearcoated aluminum wheels. the stuff usually has some foaming action to it. Warm but not hot engine helps, and hooking the hose up to a hot water source if available. Multiple applications for tough grime. David Riker -----Original Message----- From: Dave KK7SS Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:44 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. I want to clean the grease and/or off my engines but I have to do it in my driveway. So I would like to know of a product that meets all or most of the following criteria. 1) Sprays on 2) Doesn't harm wiring, paint or plastic components 3) doesn't requitre the engine to be hot 4) washes off with plain water 5) Is biodegradeable 6) Not dangerous to passing fauna - mainly quail and squirrels, the occcasional eagle or fishhawks; sometimes (but not often) coyote or beaver. The rest I don't give a d*mn about! Any (polite) suggestions? Spray-on Gunk? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/davriker at nwi.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3646 - Release Date: 05/18/11 From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 19 08:09:06 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:09:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <201105190709878.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Back in the day, we would load up a pickup truck with lever shock cores, park it in the sun, spray them all with Easy-Off oven cleaner, and go to the car wash...... wearing a rain suit. We could clean a few hundred at a time. (now we're more automated) But Easy-Off is a good lye cleaner, as are most wheel cleaners. Driveway degreasers have lye also, and it is expected they would be flushed down the storm sewer. Most are suitable for the environment. Peter C ===== At 09:01 AM 5/19/2011, David Riker wrote: >No one mentioned my favorite: >Spray on Wheel cleaner for painted wheels. Follow the directions as >if you were cleaning nice clearcoated aluminum wheels. the stuff >usually has some foaming action to it. Warm but not hot engine >helps, and hooking the hose up to a hot water source if >available. Multiple applications for tough grime. >David Riker From Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com Thu May 19 09:17:29 2011 From: Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com (EXT-Love, Charles M) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:17:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs Message-ID: <008e01cc1637$df263fe0$9d72bfa0$@M.Love2@boeing.com> I am replacing the bearings in the front hubs of my 73 and I was wondering why the spacer is needed. There are ridges that capture the bearings and prevent them from moving inward. Is the spacer really necessary? Just wondering. Thanks, Monty Love Huntsville, Alabama 73 Going back together!! The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu May 19 09:23:23 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:23:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Perhaps a bit expensive, but WD40 cleans well. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu May 19 09:54:20 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:54:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <201105190709878.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <201105190709878.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: How did that do with the paint in the truck bed? On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Back in the day, we would load up a pickup truck with lever shock cores, > park it in the sun, spray them all with Easy-Off oven cleaner, and go to the > car wash...... wearing a rain suit. We could clean a few hundred at a time. > (now we're more automated) From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu May 19 11:10:22 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:10:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD038E68C@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> One of the planned side trips (up trips?) for me off the Rallye to Reno route! JohnD Raising donations for children's cancer research on the R2R Read about it at: www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com >Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:58:41 -0700 >From: Larry & Sandi Miller >To: Jay >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Things to do in Denver >Message-ID: <05A7BBEC-EC0D-4C1B-809D-FBDF46402E34 at ado13.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Go down to the springs and take a run up pike's peak. >On May 18, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Jay wrote: >> I'm going to be traveling to Denver in the summer. >> >> If anyone can suggest some interesting things to do while the wife is shopping, >> I would be most grateful. >> >> TIA, >> >> jay From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu May 19 11:21:27 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <2126298862.2118177.1305825534293.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <754149166.2118209.1305825686965.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Gary knew me pretty well. He did 99% of my gift shopping in hardware, feed, auto parts, and gun stores. It made it easy on him. How many wives are actually happy receiving a Winchester for a first anniversary present, or a set of Jeep accessories for Christmas? Anything frilly or feminine, I usually bought for myself. Actually, he did enjoy working on cars until he got too sick to do it. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "an5 sprite" To: kgb at frontiernet.net, spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:29:38 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Allow a husband who took a long time to figure this out to amplify Kate's response. Fixing the steering wheel short is expected, you will do it because you enjoy (in her mind) working on cars. Now surprise her with a nice necklace and all will be good..... Steven Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 19 May 2011 01:39:27 Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Allow a wife (well, I was a wife before I became a widow) to give you a real translation. "Great bargain, Honey! While you're waiting for it to arrive, you can pull the steering column off my truck and track down the short" Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:44:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Mike... Third marriage here... Allow me to translate.... "you are stupid to do it but go ahead, however when you need money for something on the car don't come to me and ask for it because you wasted it on a motor" Translation: "You complete and total idiot! If you do this it's going to be as cold in the bed room (if I ever let in in again) as the winter of 1947." Just so you know ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > Be careful looking up pictures of these cars, there were 6 cylinder cars > at 1.5 Litres and 4 cylinder cars with 972cc's. The picture you looked at > could have been a 1.5 litre car with the long hood. There is quite a bit of > difference between the 2 even though they were both Singer Le Mans's, the > frame is different and much beefier on the 6 cylinder car and the body > bigger all around, they shared nothing in the design even though they had > the same model name except for similar looks. > > I don't think you can't post pictures here and besides we are off Spridget > subject already but I of course have websites for both my Singer's, if you > are really interested let me know off list and I will give you the URL's > > mike > > > On 05/18/2011 03:24 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > >> Just googled 1934 singers and found a 33 Le Mans. Long hood for a 4 >> banger!! BUdgets create all sorts of problem!!! >> >> Good luck and post pictures. Maybe not spridget but close enough. >> >> Steve >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 19 11:39:54 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <754149166.2118209.1305825686965.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <754149166.2118209.1305825686965.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <910723.59321.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Last year I did my Christmas shopping for my wife at the feed store.......And then the fight started. jay ________________________________ From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" Cc: spridgets ; spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 1:21:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Gary knew me pretty well. He did 99% of my gift shopping in hardware, feed, auto parts, and gun stores. It made it easy on him. How many wives are actually happy receiving a Winchester for a first anniversary present, or a set of Jeep accessories for Christmas? Anything frilly or feminine, I usually bought for myself. Actually, he did enjoy working on cars until he got too sick to do it. Kate From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 19 11:59:59 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:59:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <201105190709878.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <201105191100706.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> 400,000 mile Toyota.... hard to tell there WAS paint....;-) At 10:54 AM 5/19/2011, derf wrote: >How did that do with the paint in the truck bed? > > >On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > > Back in the day, we would load up a pickup truck with lever shock cores, > > park it in the sun, spray them all with Easy-Off oven cleaner, > and go to the > > car wash...... wearing a rain suit. We could clean a few hundred > at a time. > > (now we're more automated) From derf247 at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:01:32 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:01:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine de-greasing.. In-Reply-To: <201105191100706.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <911743789.425552.1305668663326.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <201105190709878.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <201105191100706.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: That is what I figured. A couple of easy off treatments would take the paint off. But, when you thrown greasy parts in you get the natural rust proofing that comes with. From lists at dinospider.com Thu May 19 12:03:04 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:03:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <910723.59321.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <754149166.2118209.1305825686965.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <910723.59321.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DD55B58.4010109@dinospider.com> Has your wife let you think you won yet ? or is it still on going ? A quick update on the motor shipping, I have a "rough" quote which is more than I thought it should be but it could be their first rough quote. I also have some great suggestions which I will follow up on, I will let the list know what happens early next week when I get back from Laguna Seca this weekend. Hi. 1 is calling my name... One funny thing has come up, when I first got this car I spent years looking for a motor, I finally decided to put in a Spridget motor as it requires no mods to the frame, you make up some special motor mounts and it bolts right into the Singer mount holes in the frame, you don't even have to drill a single hole in the Singer. I was excited because I could have a driveable car and not worry about breakage. The seller of this Singer motor in the UK and I spoke last night (via e-mail), until last night we only knew each via our E-bay ID's, he immediately figured out who I was and he said it was MY website that convinced him to try the Spridget motor, he was unhappy with the performance of the 972cc Singer motor and hardly used his car, with the Spridget motor he uses his car more and enjoys it so much that he decided to sell the Singer motor for cosmetic work on his car. He is surprised I want to go back. For me its not really going back, I don't know what they are like with the original motor. He has finished his install and helped others do the same in the UK and was surprised I have not finished since it was my website that showed him how to do this. He has offered to help me with drawings and information on the steps I have not finished and it almost seems as if he trying to talk himself out of a sale. My wife agrees with him I would be happier with the Spridget motor.....so maybe I wont be buying/shipping a motor after all. I can take that cash and paint the car, upholster it and maybe even have enough left over to do the chrome (it was a lot of cash). I still would like a original motor but that will just be a incentive to keep my 6cylinder Singer original. mike On 05/19/2011 10:39 AM, Jay wrote: > Last year I did my Christmas shopping for my wife at the feed store.......And > then the fight started. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" > Cc: spridgets; spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 1:21:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping > > Gary knew me pretty well. He did 99% of my gift shopping in hardware, feed, auto > parts, and gun stores. It made it easy on him. How many wives are actually happy > receiving a Winchester for a first anniversary present, or a set of Jeep > accessories for Christmas? Anything frilly or feminine, I usually bought for > myself. Actually, he did enjoy working on cars until he got too sick to do it. > > Kate > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:28:49 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:28:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Springs In-Reply-To: <4dd448ae.076be50a.2b21.11efSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <68C6E167F6204816B48EAC4A4681380F@personal> <8CDE2E3D66616B9-A2C-4C30@webmail-d047.sysops.aol.com> <4dd448ae.076be50a.2b21.11efSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob, Thank you for answering the question... I guessed at something like what you describe... I would be very grateful to have a couple of pics!! I've got access to a friend's machine shop so could make the blocks once I see what one looks like... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Bob Spruck wrote: > Jim: > > Now that Frank is gone, I plan to campaign for the presidency of the We > Tight Club. I don't like to pay someone to do something I can do (or learn > to do) myself or fabricate myself. Seems like you received no serious > answers to your wanting to lower your rear end. > > When I built my '67 vintage racer 20 years ago, I used hand-me-down SCCA > coils in front. They were shorter than stock but tested out to be 585 > foot/pounds which is what I wanted. I needed to lower the rear so the car > was level for handling and center of gravity purposes. My solution should > work for anybody. I found some metal of various thicknesses that was the > same width as the springs and cut it into four inch long pieces. With 150 > lbs in the driver's seat (three cement bags) to replicate my weight, two 1/8 > th inch and two 3/16 th inch thick spacers on the right side brought the > car to level, i.e. equal heights left to right when measured at the bottom > of the rocker panels. Two additional 1/8 th inch spacers on each side then > brought the rear down to the same height as the front, measured at the front > and rear, left and right of the bottom of the rocker panels. The spacers > mount between the flat boss on the axle housing and the top of the leaf. I > bought two U-bolts that were long enough to accommodate the new dimensions, > and cut off the excess threaded ends after I reinstalled the stock plates > and rubber insulators. > > Of course, since the '67 has square wheel arches, I also added a Panhard > bar, pushed out the outer fender as far as I could with a bottle jack, > rolled the inner lip, and am using offset leaf springs - all to allow the > 5.5" wheels and A70 tires. This arrangement has been in place for the 20 > years I have been racing the car and I have experienced no problems with > inside or outside rubbing. Lowering the rear also gave me better rear > visibility because the sheet metal that accommodates the convertible top on > this year model adds almost 2 inches in line with the rear view mirror. > > Spend some time studying the way the springs are mounted on the axle and > where to add the spacers, and the job becomes clear and straight forward. > Fabrication is also simple and straight forward, other than acquiring enough > metal of the correct width and thickness. I'd be glad to send you digital > photos if it would help. > > Safety Fast, > Bob Spruck > > > > > > At 04:26 PM 5/17/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Speaking of lowering Spridgets.... I'm wanting to lower the butt end of > my > MKIII Midget. Anyone have any suggestions on an easy way to do this without > using the Mo$$ kit? > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Is there an expected life span for standard springs for a road going > > Sprite? > > > > Just as eventually every Jaguar E-Type becomes a lightweight Jag, > > Every Spridget eventually becomes a lowered Spridget... > > David L > _______________________________________________ > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 19 12:50:39 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! Message-ID: <24f36.60d3b4af.3b06c07e@aol.com> My opinion IS widespread in the UK and also the respectable opinion to hold. If you have an race car you want to drive on the road and that race is road legal but you have the original numbers on the side of the car, you cover them up till you get to the event (track or show) you are going to and then uncover the numbers. The motorsports body decides whether or not to give you a licence. I'd guess but haven't checked that if they thought you were bringing the sport into disrepute by driving on the public highway with a car with numbers on (except rally cars between stages) they could decide not to give you a licence or give you a penalty that if you refused to pay would result in your not getting a licence. I don't know the road traffic act position on driving a car on the public highway displaying race numbers. One thing that's certain is that both points are mostly academic as virtually no racing cars are ever driven on the public highway displaying numbers. You might get the old purely road car VW beetle with no 53, the odd MINI with no 1 or 007 but that's about it. You are welcome to your doubts but remember I live in this country and have perfect vision (corrected by glasses) and like to look at cars so guess my experience is a better judge than your doubts. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 19/05/2011 12:10:40 GMT Daylight Time, lotuspilot at frontier.com writes: You are suggesting that if you have an original old warrior with a racing past and is still wearing "the past", a person should be ashamed when going for a blast on the streets in between vintage races or simply for the fun of using the car? This sounds like a personal viewpoint that you have and I doubt is widespread. I know of quite a few old racers that sometimes take to the road with numbers as they are painted on. Please do explain the possible motorsports penalty. I thought that they only have control over what is done during their sanctioned races. Interesting. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:06:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! In a message dated 18/05/2011 21:05:56 GMT Daylight Time, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com writes: Or maybe not or things are different in the USA to UK. Over here no self respecting racer will drive on the public highway with racing numbers and in fact there is possibly a motorsports penalty for doing so. I see a rear wheel is missing. Weslake-Monza 1330 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu May 19 12:53:59 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:53:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <4DD55B58.4010109@dinospider.com> References: <754149166.2118209.1305825686965.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net><910723.59321.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4DD55B58.4010109@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <47F92D8E3360476D840930381850F159@spider> This weekend is FERRARI RACING DAYS; what are you running? ...bill in corvallis ==================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:03 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Has your wife let you think you won yet ? or is it still on going ? A quick update on the motor shipping, I have a "rough" quote which is more than I thought it should be but it could be their first rough quote. I also have some great suggestions which I will follow up on, I will let the list know what happens early next week when I get back from Laguna Seca this weekend. Hi. 1 is calling my name... From lists at dinospider.com Thu May 19 13:12:42 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:12:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <47F92D8E3360476D840930381850F159@spider> References: <754149166.2118209.1305825686965.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net><910723.59321.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4DD55B58.4010109@dinospider.com> <47F92D8E3360476D840930381850F159@spider> Message-ID: <4DD56BAA.90300@dinospider.com> Don't I wish...ooh yeah I wish I was running something. I am going there to see the F1 or is that hear the F1 cars ? Dino will be there with the Ferrari Dino's they kindly invited my lowly FIAT Dino Spider to join them since we share motors but the goal is to hear the F1's scream around the track. Most (not all) Ferrari guys tend to treat the FIAT Dino as one of their own so I can get in to events without the expense of a Ferrari. mike On 05/19/2011 11:53 AM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > This weekend is FERRARI RACING DAYS; what are you running? ...bill in > corvallis > ==================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:03 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping > > Has your wife let you think you won yet ? or is it still on going ? > > A quick update on the motor shipping, I have a "rough" quote which is > more than I thought it should be but it could be their first rough > quote. I also have some great suggestions which I will follow up on, I > will let the list know what happens early next week when I get back from > Laguna Seca this weekend. Hi. 1 is calling my name... > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Thu May 19 14:00:13 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:00:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clarici Sticker SASE Message-ID: <3231DCA6-2A43-43A3-97C5-18D3AA9841AF@gmail.com> Hey ALL, Re; The Frank Clarici III Stickers Those of you who responded to the survey concerning the Frank Clarici III Stickers and did not send me a self addressed stamped envelope, please do so immediately (or sooner ;) Again; Anyone who has not sent their SASE (Self Addressed Stamped Envelope) to me, please do so. We have 75 respondents to the survey and I have received only 22 envelopes. Make sure to include a note telling me which stickers you want. If you have already made arrangements with me to get your stickers in person you can ignore this message. Thanks!! Kevin Valentine PO Box 275 Tuscarora, Pa 17982 From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu May 19 14:07:15 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:07:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping In-Reply-To: <910723.59321.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <754149166.2118209.1305825686965.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <910723.59321.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <83A4B85C4EF244E2BC3C568F41F66071@Home> > Last year I did my Christmas shopping for my wife at the feed > store.......And > then the fight started. Well, you shouldn't have gotten her cow feed. Bird feed would have been better. Michael Rowe From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 19 14:28:02 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine shipping Message-ID: <19e74.4cd1a692.3b06d752@aol.com> Scalextric In a message dated 19/05/2011 19:59:57 GMT Daylight Time, corvallis at peoplepc.com writes: This weekend is FERRARI RACING DAYS; what are you running? ...bill in corvallis From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu May 19 14:32:18 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was engine shipping In-Reply-To: <19e74.4cd1a692.3b06d752@aol.com> References: <19e74.4cd1a692.3b06d752@aol.com> Message-ID: <21183429BAEB4E42819FBCFA2F6F4A86@spider> http://www.scalextric.com/ (hot wheels) _____ From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:28 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine shipping Scalextric ================================ In a message dated 19/05/2011 19:59:57 GMT Daylight Time, corvallis at peoplepc.com writes: This weekend is FERRARI RACING DAYS; what are you running? ...bill in corvallis From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 19 14:45:04 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be covered at all times when driving on the public highway. I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better way to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". Weslake-Monza 1330 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 19 15:01:01 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:01:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> References: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> Message-ID: Personally, I think it's kind of foolish to ask for extra special attention from the cops by running your numbers on the street, but I also think it's pure bullsh_t that this racing group can tell the people what they can or cannot do while not at the track. Seems to me that if they aren't at the track the racing org ought not have a say in anything they do. It ain't their concern. Any other intrusive rules like telling you how to vote or how many kids to have? LAD -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:45 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be covered at all times when driving on the public highway. I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better way to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". Weslake-Monza 1330 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 19 15:06:41 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:06:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: References: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> Message-ID: I seem to remember when I was in high school the drag strip crowd drove around all week with the track info on their side windows in white shoe polish... ;-) It was like some sort of badge of courage or something.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Personally, I think it's kind of foolish to ask for extra special attention > from the cops by running your numbers on the street, but I also think it's > pure bullsh_t that this racing group can tell the people what they can or > cannot do while not at the track. Seems to me that if they aren't at the > track the racing org ought not have a say in anything they do. It ain't > their concern. > > Any other intrusive rules like telling you how to vote or how many kids to > have? > > LAD > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:45 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway > > MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying > individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the > event. > > Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be > covered at all times when driving on the public highway. > > I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally > car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while > a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing > number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better > way > to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Thu May 19 15:10:00 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: References: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> Message-ID: <189618.16772.qm@web112719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> my '59 bugeye is lettered , numbered and class marked as it ran at marlboro in 1962. been that way for now over 10 years and i have never had any issues with anyone , anywhere dealing with it's being an ex-race car in the exterior trim of the time it was raced. chuck. ________________________________ From: Larry Daniels To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 5:01:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Personally, I think it's kind of foolish to ask for extra special attention from the cops by running your numbers on the street, but I also think it's pure bullsh_t that this racing group can tell the people what they can or cannot do while not at the track. Seems to me that if they aren't at the track the racing org ought not have a say in anything they do. It ain't their concern. Any other intrusive rules like telling you how to vote or how many kids to have? LAD -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:45 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be covered at all times when driving on the public highway. I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better way to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". Weslake-Monza 1330 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From jpaschke at bak.rr.com Thu May 19 15:26:47 2011 From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:26:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> References: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DD58B17.3080409@bak.rr.com> That car was a replica light weight racer, it was his street car made to look like that. He was very proud of his job - too bad he happened to be driving it that day... On 5/19/2011 1:45 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying > individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. > > Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be > covered at all times when driving on the public highway. > > I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally > car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while > a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing > number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better way > to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jpaschke at bak.rr.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu May 19 15:46:42 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:46:42 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <189618.16772.qm@web112719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com><189618.16772.qm@web112719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I also have my 59 bugeye painted and lettered as I raced it at Bridgehampton in the 70's. The only difference is I added my wife name to the passanger door!! Steve 59 green bugeye with numbers Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: charles christ Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:10:00 To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway my '59 bugeye is lettered , numbered and class marked as it ran at marlboro in 1962. been that way for now over 10 years and i have never had any issues with anyone , anywhere dealing with it's being an ex-race car in the exterior trim of the time it was raced. chuck. ________________________________ From: Larry Daniels To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 5:01:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Personally, I think it's kind of foolish to ask for extra special attention from the cops by running your numbers on the street, but I also think it's pure bullsh_t that this racing group can tell the people what they can or cannot do while not at the track. Seems to me that if they aren't at the track the racing org ought not have a say in anything they do. It ain't their concern. Any other intrusive rules like telling you how to vote or how many kids to have? LAD -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:45 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be covered at all times when driving on the public highway. I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better way to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". Weslake-Monza 1330 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From lotuspilot at frontier.com Thu May 19 19:40:21 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 01:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <1ad7b.63e02414.3b06db50@aol.com> Message-ID: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> My series one Lotus Seven has its racing number from the 1960s in place. I will leave it. It does not matter what you think or your silly race group for that matter ;^). I am betting that the racing group is too snooty to hang around anyway. I guess that I will go and enjoy my pretend race car now - meatballs, numbers, and all. You will be happy to know that my series two Seven America does not have its original SCCA race numbers. I have done some preservation work on it. Don't worry that pretend race car will have its original numbers shortly as well. You're the best. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:45:04 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be covered at all times when driving on the public highway. I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better way to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". Weslake-Monza 1330 _______________________________________________ From refisk at chartermi.net Thu May 19 19:58:05 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:58:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: The British have a number of silly rules. For instance - you have to buy a license to watch TV. Huh??? Take a look at their guns laws. Warm beer? Rick my pretend race car is faster than your pretend race car. :-) Sent from my iPad On May 19, 2011, at 9:40 PM, lotuspilot at frontier.com wrote: > My series one Lotus Seven has its racing number from the 1960s in place. I will leave it. It does not matter what you think or your silly race group for that matter ;^). I am betting that the racing group is too snooty to hang around anyway. I guess that I will go and enjoy my pretend race car now - meatballs, numbers, and all. > > You will be happy to know that my series two Seven America does not have its original SCCA race numbers. I have done some preservation work on it. Don't worry that pretend race car will have its original numbers shortly as well. > > You're the best. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:45:04 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway > > MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying > individual cars during a competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. > > Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be > covered at all times when driving on the public highway. > > I think that pretty much makes it clear that no racing car (but not rally > car) displays racing numbers when being driven on the road. However, while > a racing car no longer used for racing clearly could display a racing > number on the public highway none ever do because there would be no better way > to say 'this car is just pretending to be a racing car". > > Weslake-Monza 1330 From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu May 19 20:57:53 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:57:53 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: <32396901.1305860274150.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Mike wrote: "It does not matter what you think or your silly race group for that matter ;^). I am betting that the racing group is too snooty to hang around anyway." Calm down, folks, there is no need for insulting each other. What must be remembered is that the laws, rules and regulations in England are quite different from those in America. When it comes to those in Blighty, I think we have to yield to David's expertise. He is, after all, an authorized racing scrutineer for the Motor Sports Association (http://tinyurl.com/3td4nuw), and must know the rulebook backwards and forwards. (His group is a government backed initiative to encourage more people to become involved with the sport.) In America, things can and usually are, different. All we have to do is accept that. However, speaking from one of my chequered careers (cop), I would have to say that anyone driving around with a racing screen would invite those blinking lights in the rear view mirror, if for no other reason that most do not meet State standards, and don't have windshield wipers. Having said that, I do remember back in the "Gold Age" (1960-1969), we all did our racing prep at home, then drove to the track over the highways and byways. Buster From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 19 21:20:21 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 03:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1821367566.461504.1305861621486.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> There's a good reason for warm beer... and I ain't gonna tell you what it is :-) P.S. I own a photo of a race car. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Fisk" Warm beer? From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu May 19 22:41:11 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 00:41:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: References: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <439D00E7FD7246DD9CDAA724F5C5A6BC@blackbox2> >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets->bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public >highway >The British have a number of silly rules. It all started with bicycles a long time ago. Racing bicycles on UK public roads was outlawed after a serious accident occurred with a pedestrian. A workaround by race organizers was devised. Riders would be sent out on the course individually, without any markings on their cloths (or bikes) so as not to raise the suspicion of the law. Their times through the course would then be measured. This is how the "individual time trial" was born. From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu May 19 23:15:32 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:15:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you REALLY love your car? Message-ID: <001001cc16ac$f2d71670$d8854350$@net> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-h aving-sex-with-1000-cars.html From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri May 20 00:04:48 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 23:04:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars--a big OOPS!!! Message-ID: <24254301.1305871488779.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I wrote: "When it comes to those in Blighty, I think we have to yield to David's expertise." Obviously, I was falling asleep. It was Daniel (Stapleton) to whom I was referring. When Frank and I were visiting him and his family in England, I especially remember our conversation about him being a "scrutineer". At first I did not realize he was talking about what we called inspectors. Two great people separated only by a common language. RBE From heard at datatrontech.net Fri May 20 06:41:30 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:41:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you REALLY love your car? In-Reply-To: <001001cc16ac$f2d71670$d8854350$@net> References: <001001cc16ac$f2d71670$d8854350$@net> Message-ID: <029f01cc16eb$3e5f2450$bb1d6cf0$@net> I'm not even going to go to that link. Just reading the link creeps me out. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:16 AM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Do you REALLY love your car? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-h aving-sex-with-1000-cars.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri May 20 07:06:20 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you REALLY love your car? In-Reply-To: <001001cc16ac$f2d71670$d8854350$@net> References: <001001cc16ac$f2d71670$d8854350$@net> Message-ID: Reminds me of the SNL "Mercury Mistress" commercial. It is available on you tube if you are inclined to view it. -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Robert Evans wrote: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2000899/Man-admits-h > aving-sex-with-1000-cars.html > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Fri May 20 07:09:37 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 06:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator Caps Message-ID: <657109.92299.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A question for anyone that might have an idea. Is or was there ever more than one downflow radiator installed in Sprites or Midgets. My sons race car radiator is different from all other Bugeye radiators that I currently have access to. The difference: On all Bugeye radiators I am familiar with -- the distance from the top rim of the fill opening to the seal surface where the cap makes its seal, is approx. 1". That same distance on the race car radiator is only approx. 3/4". A standard cap from Moss or VB (7 lb.)will not work on this radiator and we have not been able to find a cap that will work. Anyone have any ideas??? Jeff Kelly From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Fri May 20 07:19:31 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 06:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator Caps In-Reply-To: <657109.92299.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <217913.90745.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I forgot to mention-- the race car is a Bugeye running a 948 engine with a downflow radiator. Jeff --- On Fri, 5/20/11, Jeff Kelly wrote: From: Jeff Kelly Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator Caps To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, May 20, 2011, 8:09 AM A question for anyone that might have an idea. Is or was there ever more than one downflow radiator installed in Sprites or Midgets. My sons race car radiator is different from all other Bugeye radiators that I currently have access to. The difference: On all Bugeye radiators I am familiar with -- the distance from the top rim of the fill opening to the seal surface where the cap makes its seal, is approx. 1". That same distance on the race car radiator is only approx. 3/4". A standard cap from Moss or VB (7 lb.)will not work on this radiator and we have not been able to find a cap that will work. Anyone have any ideas??? Jeff Kelly Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/homehandy at sbcglobal.net From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri May 20 07:19:34 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:19:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator Caps In-Reply-To: <657109.92299.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <657109.92299.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jeff, Did you try a cap from a later (crossflow) radiator? The neck is shorter on the crossflow rad and a crossflow cap is too short to seal a downflow rad. Kevin V. On May 20, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Jeff Kelly wrote: > A question for anyone that might have an idea. Is or was there ever > more than one downflow radiator installed in Sprites or Midgets. > > My sons race car radiator is different from all other Bugeye > radiators that I currently have access to. The difference: On all > Bugeye radiators I am familiar with -- the distance from the top > rim of the fill opening to the seal surface where the cap makes its > seal, is approx. 1". That same distance on the race car radiator is > only approx. 3/4". A standard cap from Moss or VB (7 lb.)will not > work on this radiator and we have not been able to find a cap that > will work. > > Anyone have any ideas??? From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Fri May 20 07:33:24 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 06:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator Caps In-Reply-To: References: <657109.92299.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <115177.13542.qm@web112702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> for a long time the tall neck type rad. cap was not available. common practice was to take a rad neck from a chevy or ford or any other domestic car and swap the neck for a 3/4" type cap so you could easily purchase a darn cap. saab , mg , healey even jap cars like datsun's had tall neck caps fitted when new. you have been blessed with some prior owner upgrading your rad. go to any parts store and ask for a 7lb cap and yer going to have the fix for the problem as well as the answer to the how and why this is like it is. chuck. i was buying datsun roadster (1600 / 2000) caps for my bugeye ________________________________ From: Kevin Valentine To: Jeff Kelly Cc: Spridgets Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 9:19:34 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Radiator Caps Jeff, Did you try a cap from a later (crossflow) radiator? The neck is shorter on the crossflow rad and a crossflow cap is too short to seal a downflow rad. Kevin V. On May 20, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Jeff Kelly wrote: > A question for anyone that might have an idea. Is or was there ever more than >one downflow radiator installed in Sprites or Midgets. > > My sons race car radiator is different from all other Bugeye radiators that I >currently have access to. The difference: On all Bugeye radiators I am familiar >with -- the distance from the top rim of the fill opening to the seal surface >where the cap makes its seal, is approx. 1". That same distance on the race car >radiator is only approx. 3/4". A standard cap from Moss or VB (7 lb.)will not >work on this radiator and we have not been able to find a cap that will work. > > Anyone have any ideas??? _______________________________________________ From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Fri May 20 08:32:07 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:32:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Re : Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: Daniel is correct re 'proper' race cars , but the 'Queens' Highway code does allow , roundels , numbers and anything else on the paintwork or bumpers of your car as long as it is not racist, offensive or covers / alters your registration plate (number plates). so Pseudo race cars that will never race are allowed to look like race cars on the road . However a race car turning up for a race so liveried after driving on the Queens highway will be prevented from racing by the scrutineers . Alan of Warwick UK whose frogeye has roundels and headlamp stone guards fitted by its previous owner and it is regularly driven on the road with no ill effect ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com MSA Blue book regulation J4.17 states: Any means of identifying individual cars duringa competition MUST be removed at the finish of the event. Also MSA Blue book regulation Q11.1.1 states: Competition numbers must be covered at all times when driving on the public highway. __________________________________ Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com/get From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 20 08:40:42 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 07:40:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Do you REALLY love your car? In-Reply-To: <001001cc16ac$f2d71670$d8854350$@net> Message-ID: My Ranchero is always too tired, the Honda usually has a headache, and I suspect my Sprite has been seeing someone else. BZ From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 20 09:52:58 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs In-Reply-To: <008e01cc1637$df263fe0$9d72bfa0$@M.Love2@boeing.com> Message-ID: <1102162358.466892.1305906778190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> It's been my understanding that the spacer forms an integral part of the stress design of the front hub. Mechanical design indicates that the axle is supposed to be stronger with the spacer. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles M EXT-Love" I am replacing the bearings in the front hubs of my 73 and I was wondering why the spacer is needed. From aseippel at austin.rr.com Fri May 20 10:13:20 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:13:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs In-Reply-To: <1102162358.466892.1305906778190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <008e01cc1637$df263fe0$9d72bfa0$@M.Love2@boeing.com> <1102162358.466892.1305906778190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <045901cc1708$d63b75e0$82b261a0$@rr.com> The spacer keeps you from overloading the bearings. Without the spacer, when you tighten the axle nut, there is nothing to keep from pulling the bearings together and wearing the inside of the races. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:53 AM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs It's been my understanding that the spacer forms an integral part of the stress design of the front hub. Mechanical design indicates that the axle is supposed to be stronger with the spacer. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles M EXT-Love" I am replacing the bearings in the front hubs of my 73 and I was wondering why the spacer is needed. _______________________________________________ From rich_ball at mindspring.com Fri May 20 10:38:52 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:38:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs References: <008e01cc1637$df263fe0$9d72bfa0$@M.Love2@boeing.com><1102162358.466892.1305906778190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <045901cc1708$d63b75e0$82b261a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <5015045E4FE446119A004723349420E5@psych.washington.edu> To quote Paul A. "they aren't needed, don't use 'em. They do make great paper weights though." That was during the first NOSHIT two years ago when we were installing my repacked wheel bearings and brake calipers that Paul rebuilt for me. We didn't use them, and so far I haven't had any problems. I imagine that any car Paul was around when the bearings were worked on is running without the spacers. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Seippel" To: "'Dave KK7SS'" ; "'spridgets_autox.team.net'" Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs > The spacer keeps you from overloading the bearings. Without the spacer, > when > you tighten the axle nut, there is nothing to keep from pulling the > bearings > together and wearing the inside of the races. - Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:53 AM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs > > It's been my understanding that the spacer forms an integral part of the > stress design of the front hub. > Mechanical design indicates that the axle is supposed to be stronger with > the spacer. > > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles M EXT-Love" > > I am replacing the bearings in the front hubs of my 73 and I was wondering > why the spacer is needed. > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 20 10:46:23 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:46:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs In-Reply-To: <045901cc1708$d63b75e0$82b261a0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <20110520164623.77VZL.17673.root@cdptpa-web20-z02> The OP stated that his hubs have steps that position the bearings and keep them from pulling together in similar fashion to what the spacers would do. This is the way that all American production used to be done. Of course we are making the assumption that the steps machined into the hubs hold the bearings in the same locations that the spacers would, maybe the steps are in the wrong place. > The spacer keeps you from overloading the bearings. Without the spacer, when > you tighten the axle nut, there is nothing to keep from pulling the bearings > together and wearing the inside of the races. - Jim From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 20 11:12:41 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Car transport/shipping in US Message-ID: <187593.53610.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> If anyone has information on transporters who can ship a car CHEAP from CT to the southwestern US, please contact me offlist. I am looking for open transport and do not need the info on Horseless Carriage, Intercity, etc, etc, I am not looking for that class of vehicle carrier. Thanks in Advance. jay From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 20 11:12:52 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs In-Reply-To: <20110520164623.77VZL.17673.root@cdptpa-web20-z02> Message-ID: <393713937.468024.1305911572636.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> An excellent analysis of the funtion of the spacer, it's reason for being and on which vehicles it can be found is here:- http://www.mgexperience.net/article/mg-midget-wheel-bearings.html The analysis starts about halfway down the page at the section headed "Attachment 1" -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 20 11:12:43 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: <4ca26.21ab5e25.3b07fb0b@aol.com> And there speaks the voice of ignorance because what I quoted was not a racing group, silly or otherwise, but the sanctioning body for the United Kingdom. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/05/2011 02:40:22 GMT Daylight Time, lotuspilot at frontier.com writes: It does not matter what you think or your silly race group for that matter From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 20 11:14:08 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: <4cb08.58ad8088.3b07fb60@aol.com> Well I don't make the rules! I think you might still need a dog licence but not a cat licence. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/05/2011 03:02:48 GMT Daylight Time, refisk at chartermi.net writes: The British have a number of silly rules. For instance - you have to buy a license to watch TV. Huh??? Take a look at their guns laws. Warm beer? Rick my pretend race car is faster than your pretend race car. :-) From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 20 11:17:16 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cycle racingRe: Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: <4cd1c.d6d9dd8.3b07fc1c@aol.com> In the early days of time trials the police were active in trying to catch the offenders and disrupt the meetings etc. Times have changed and at least when I last checked cycle races can still be held on the public highway, with police permssion - a bit like the tour de France. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/05/2011 05:47:24 GMT Daylight Time, dlh2001 at comcast.net writes: The British have a number of silly rules. It all started with bicycles a long time ago. Racing bicycles on UK public roads was outlawed after a serious accident occurred with a pedestrian. A workaround by race organizers was devised. Riders would be sent out on the course individually, without any markings on their cloths (or bikes) so as not to raise the suspicion of the law. Their times through the course would then be measured. This is how the "individual time trial" was born. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 20 11:18:11 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars--a big OOPS!!! Message-ID: <4cde8.64cf9b63.3b07fc53@aol.com> And personal habits concerning automobiles I guess.. In a message dated 20/05/2011 07:04:49 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: Two great people separated only by a common language. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 20 11:19:20 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator Caps Message-ID: <4cec8.6ac8e817.3b07fc98@aol.com> Time for an aluminium alloy radiator? In a message dated 20/05/2011 14:13:15 GMT Daylight Time, homehandy at sbcglobal.net writes: My sons race car radiator is different from all other Bugeye radiators that I currently have access to. The difference: On all Bugeye radiators I am familiar with -- the distance from the top rim of the fill opening to the seal surface where the cap makes its seal, is approx. 1". That same distance on the race car radiator is only approx. 3/4". A standard cap from Moss or VB (7 lb.)will not work on this radiator and we have not been able to find a cap that will work. Anyone have any ideas??? Jeff Kelly From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 20 11:42:38 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Nanny state was Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: <4e035.29d840c.3b08020e@aol.com> The concept of the state telling you many kids to have etc is called 'the nanny state' and has died away a bit in recent years. In the UK motorsports does not have a powerful lobbying group and doesn't have a fraction of the TV coverage of football. On the day Damon Hill won his first Grand Prix it wasn't being reported on radio sports results, even after a pile of minor league football results. I rang and complained about that and the Damon Hill news was reported in later bulletins. Lots of people, including those that live near motorsports venues would be happy for them to be closed down and motor racing to cease. One of the biggest issues in motorsport in the UK is noise. There are strict limits for most but not all race meetings. The UK does not have the same kind of car culture the USA has and has to be sure not to draw 'incoming fire' by anything that might be seized upon by the media as irresponsible. So the 'racing group' which is actually the UK sanctioning body and control all UK motorsports except 1/4 mile dirt track oval racing/banger racing is THE authority. All motor racing clubs, like the MG Car Club and real motoring racing 'groups' regional associations etc will be members of or affiliated to the UK sanctioning body. In fact it will be their democratic process that forms the rules. So in summary, the national sanctioning body for UK motorsports _http://www.msauk.org/custom/asp/home/default.asp_ (http://www.msauk.org/custom/asp/home/default.asp) as well as it's member clubs don't want to create any trouble for the sport or give it a bad image. Remember, this is a country that outlawed fox hunting (but not shooting foxes). They don't want to see motorsports banned (rallying for example) or restricted. They have a tough job with the PR and it only takes a couple of guys with numbers on their cars have an accident and it will be in the national newspapers the next day with environmental groups calling for a blanket ban on motorsport. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 19/05/2011 22:01:19 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: that this racing group can tell the people what they can or cannot do while not at the track. Seems to me that if they aren't at the track the racing org ought not have a say in anything they do. It ain't their concern. Any other intrusive rules like telling you how to vote or how many kids to have? LAD From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 20 12:02:06 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Nanny state was Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <4e035.29d840c.3b08020e@aol.com> References: <4e035.29d840c.3b08020e@aol.com> Message-ID: <667669.70449.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> And for that you should be thankful. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" The UK does not have the same kind of car culture the USA has ..... From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri May 20 12:09:27 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:09:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: References: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > The British have a number of silly rules. For instance - you have to buy a > license to watch TV. Huh??? Take a look at their guns laws. Warm beer? > > And when you're there you have to drive on the left side of the road! What's that all about? Hal From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri May 20 13:12:38 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: References: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <462456.48926.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Warm beer? - Hal Hal, I'll agree with you on the gun laws over there, but they have the beer thing down WAY better than we do... For all the years I was travelling to England (with my now ex), I considered it my patriotic duty to demonstrate that at least some Americans are capable of hanging with them pint for pint down at the local. There are an unbelievable number of Bitters and Ales and Ciders and Stouts (and on and on) available at the local pubs. I did my best to try every one of them. Failed miserably of course, but gave it quite the heroic effort for something like 20 years. I'd venture a guess that our Lister friends from the right side of the pond are too polite to say so, but most American beers are incredibly lame by comparison. - David Booker Long Island _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Fri May 20 13:20:03 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:20:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Car transport/shipping in US In-Reply-To: <187593.53610.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <187593.53610.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001b01cc1722$ebd56720$c3803560$@net> Call or e-mail Josh @atrautotransport.com 754-204-2512 He is a shipping broker and given a couple of days will probably find you the best rate there is. He REALLY saved me a lot on a car from California to Houston Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 12:13 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Car transport/shipping in US If anyone has information on transporters who can ship a car CHEAP from CT to the southwestern US, please contact me offlist. I am looking for open transport and do not need the info on Horseless Carriage, Intercity, etc, etc, I am not looking for that class of vehicle carrier. Thanks in Advance. jay Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 20 14:35:36 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:35:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <462456.48926.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <462456.48926.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <58959AB68E7241049E401E6A57B8E749@Home> > most American beers are incredibly lame by comparison. American beers are for gulping when you are thirsty. European beers are for sipping and socializing. Michael Rowe American beer gulper From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 20 15:41:09 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - unusual British surname Message-ID: <14469.66d3f1c7.3b0839f5@aol.com> Hi list, Well I think a few listers didn't really understand why I said what I did about racing numbers on a road car. To see racing numbers on a road car or a racing car on the road is pretty alien over here. On a lighter note there are other things you might find unusual about the British. One thing that might interest you is an unusual surname: Here is the link _http://www.4crests.com/wankling-coat-of-arms.html_ (http://www.4crests.com/wankling-coat-of-arms.html) I 100% guarantee this is not a windup and out of the 80000+ govt employees on the work e-mail global address list we have 2 people with that surname. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 from a country where it's the law to wear a helmet on a motorbike. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 20 15:49:25 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:49:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars--a big OOPS!!! In-Reply-To: <4cde8.64cf9b63.3b07fc53@aol.com> References: <4cde8.64cf9b63.3b07fc53@aol.com> Message-ID: My first wife was British... Thankfully we are also separated by legal documents... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, wrote: > And personal habits concerning automobiles I guess.. > > In a message dated 20/05/2011 07:04:49 GMT Daylight Time, > b-evans at earthlink.net writes: > > Two great people separated only by a common language. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 20 15:59:52 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:59:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - unusual British surname In-Reply-To: <14469.66d3f1c7.3b0839f5@aol.com> References: <14469.66d3f1c7.3b0839f5@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, wrote: Monty Python Sketch: Minister of Silly Walks: How do you feel about Wankling? Arthur Putee: I don't know. I've never wankled. Bruhhahahahaha!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Fri May 20 17:57:35 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:57:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] sterring question Message-ID: <0D1443220A6242ACBDBC6993A3FC3525@Inspiron> List, I have a friend who has a 1960 MGA, he was taking an off ramp from the highway and hit a pot hole with both tires. The steering is now tight, when he is driving the car and makes a left or right turn the steering wheel doesn't want to come back to centre. The car has a brand new from end with about 1000 miles on it. We jacked up the car nothing looks bent. Anyone have any suggestions what the problem could be?? Thanks for any info Greg Higgins From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 20 18:22:47 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs In-Reply-To: <393713937.468024.1305911572636.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <393713937.468024.1305911572636.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DD705D7.403@tx.rr.com> That is an interesting analysis. Those spindles don't have steps like the OP stated, so it is easy to see where the spacers would be required. > An excellent analysis of the funtion of the spacer, it's reason for being and on which vehicles it can be found is here:- > > http://www.mgexperience.net/article/mg-midget-wheel-bearings.html > > The analysis starts about halfway down the page at the section headed "Attachment 1" From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 20 18:26:20 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:26:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <462456.48926.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2055027170.464306.1305855621635.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <462456.48926.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DD706AC.2080605@tx.rr.com> As a very patriotic red-blooded American I have to agree. There are lots of American industries that IMO are misguided, and beer producers are one of them. I drink beers made in America, but I try not to drink "American" beers. At least I support American car manufacturers. > but most American beers are incredibly > lame > by comparison. From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri May 20 18:50:35 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:50:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sterring question References: <0D1443220A6242ACBDBC6993A3FC3525@Inspiron> Message-ID: <8972DA25BBB84DD6B923B8FD80FE709F@personal> Toe in or out is very wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Higgins" To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: [Spridgets] sterring question > List, > > I have a friend who has a 1960 MGA, he was taking an off ramp from the > highway > and hit a pot hole with both tires. The steering is now tight, when he is > driving the car and makes a left or right turn the steering wheel doesn't > want > to come back to centre. > The car has a brand new from end with about 1000 miles on it. We jacked up > the > car nothing looks bent. > > Anyone have any suggestions what the problem could be?? > > Thanks for any info > > Greg Higgins > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3649 - Release Date: 05/20/11 From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 20 19:05:52 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 01:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Beer (was Racing cars displaying numbers ) In-Reply-To: <4DD706AC.2080605@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <458632628.473009.1305939952005.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I am fortunate enough to live in S.E Washington... More micro-breweries (using barley, hops and malt) than I can list!! :-) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJNoSHOV8" are one of them. I drink beers made in America, but I try not to drink "American" beers. At least I support American car manufacturers. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri May 20 19:10:46 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:10:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Beer (was Racing cars displaying numbers ) In-Reply-To: <458632628.473009.1305939952005.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <4DD706AC.2080605@tx.rr.com> <458632628.473009.1305939952005.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Try Redhook ESB. Got a bite to it. ========= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:06 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Beer (was Racing cars displaying numbers ) I am fortunate enough to live in S.E Washington... More micro-breweries (using barley, hops and malt) than I can list!! :-) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJNoSHOV8" are one of them. I drink beers made in America, but I try not to drink "American" beers. At least I support American car manufacturers. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From lotuspilot at frontier.com Fri May 20 21:36:53 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 03:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <4ca26.21ab5e25.3b07fb0b@aol.com> Message-ID: <1328963809.478629.1305949013744.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Please do not take me so seriously. I emailed simply for something to do. I understand that everyone views things differently. I will say that I am too much American to ever enjoy England ;^)). Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: lotuspilot at frontier.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway And there speaks the voice of ignorance because what I quoted was not a racing group, silly or otherwise, but the sanctioning body for the United Kingdom. B Weslake-Monza 1330 B B From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 21 01:00:16 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 02:00:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] sterring question In-Reply-To: <8972DA25BBB84DD6B923B8FD80FE709F@personal> References: <0D1443220A6242ACBDBC6993A3FC3525@Inspiron> <8972DA25BBB84DD6B923B8FD80FE709F@personal> Message-ID: What Jack said... And check the condition of the tie rod ends when adjusting tow in. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Toe in or out is very wrong. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Higgins" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:57 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] sterring question > > > List, >> >> I have a friend who has a 1960 MGA, he was taking an off ramp from the >> highway >> and hit a pot hole with both tires. The steering is now tight, when he is >> driving the car and makes a left or right turn the steering wheel doesn't >> want >> to come back to centre. >> The car has a brand new from end with about 1000 miles on it. We jacked up >> the >> car nothing looks bent. >> >> Anyone have any suggestions what the problem could be?? >> >> Thanks for any info >> >> Greg Higgins >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3649 - Release Date: 05/20/11 >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 21 01:01:42 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 02:01:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Beer (was Racing cars displaying numbers ) In-Reply-To: <458632628.473009.1305939952005.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <4DD706AC.2080605@tx.rr.com> <458632628.473009.1305939952005.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I am fortunate enough to have the "Vortex Brewery" right here in my home.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I am fortunate enough to live in S.E Washington... > More micro-breweries (using barley, hops and malt) than I can list!! :-) > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BJNoSHOV8" > > are one of them. I drink beers made in America, but I try not to drink > "American" beers. At least I support American car manufacturers. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 21 14:02:57 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... Message-ID: <721462.54748.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> b... but can only afford a MINI? Here's the solution: http://www.cobra-car-design.de/usa.html Hmmm, I wonder if someone could make a Bugeye nose for a MINI? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From derf247 at gmail.com Sat May 21 14:11:20 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 15:11:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... In-Reply-To: <721462.54748.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <721462.54748.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Though it sounds bad it doesn't look too bad. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:02 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > b... but can only afford a MINI? Here's the solution: > http://www.cobra-car-design.de/usa.html Hmmm, I wonder if someone could make > a Bugeye nose for a MINI? From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat May 21 14:43:49 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:43:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] License to Watch TV in Britain? Message-ID: Just got back from two weeks in Britain and a couple of days in Paris. . watched some TV in our various Brit hotel rooms. . had no idea I needed to get a license to do so? I guess the hotels are covered under a blanket license of some sort? Strange stuff to say the least. And did driving on the left side of the road really stem from the days of jousting as I was told by a few Brits while there? You can all tear this one apart as you see fit. . but supposedly the jousting thing transferred to horse back and buggy days to automobiles as the jousters would hold their poles under their right arms facing off with each other. Just what I was told. . . Kirk When in France the driving returned to "normal." From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat May 21 15:47:14 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] License to Watch TV in Britain? Message-ID: <3ed93.364ecacb.3b098ce2@aol.com> Yep, the hotel will have a licence. TV licences are for a property rather than a person. In a message dated 21/05/2011 21:45:52 GMT Daylight Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: watched some TV in our various Brit hotel rooms. . had no idea I needed to get a license to do so? I guess the hotels are covered under a blanket license of some sort? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 21 16:00:58 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:00:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] License to Watch TV in Britain? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The licenses used to be for the individual TV set not the viewer... At least it was in the 60s and the 90s.... As to "normal" driving in France - apparently you didn't venture into Paris and fight off all the 2CVs... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Just got back from two weeks in Britain and a couple of days in Paris. . > watched some TV in our various Brit hotel rooms. . had no idea I needed to > get a license to do so? I guess the hotels are covered under a blanket > license of some sort? Strange stuff to say the least. > > And did driving on the left side of the road really stem from the days of > jousting as I was told by a few Brits while there? > > You can all tear this one apart as you see fit. . but supposedly the > jousting thing transferred to horse back and buggy days to automobiles as > the jousters would hold their poles under their right arms facing off with > each other. > > Just what I was told. . . > > Kirk > > When in France the driving returned to "normal." > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat May 21 18:53:06 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:53:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Was this Paul A's Icelandic secret???? Message-ID: <000001cc181a$9ddc2b50$d99481f0$@net> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-world/2011/04/12/icelander-95-leaves-peni s-to-museum-115875-23056866/ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat May 21 21:09:17 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 20:09:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic MGs on show - But no Midgets??? Message-ID: <000001cc182d$a39fde20$eadf9a60$@net> MG Car Club's Regency Run had ancient and new MG's, but no Midgets! Have they been made orphans? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/8509729/In-pictures-cla ssic-MGs-on-show.html From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun May 22 06:22:29 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1397240720.772590.1306066949167.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I actually really like that. ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "HealeyRick" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 4:11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... Though it sounds bad it doesn't look too bad. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:02 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > b... but can only afford a MINI? Here's the solution: > http://www.cobra-car-design.de/usa.html Hmmm, I wonder if someone could make > a Bugeye nose for a MINI? _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From grday at btinternet.com Sun May 22 08:03:22 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 15:03:22 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] License to Watch TV in Britain? References: Message-ID: No, not for each individual set but for the household. There are complications with multi occupancy of say a block of flats (each household within the block must have their own license) or a students university (Freshman's ?) hall of residence (each residential room OR communal room must have a licence) but generally it is 1 license per house. 'Granny flats' can be another hiccup but you can normally cheat your way round those. Guy R Day ps Are there any 2CV's left? Surely they've all rotted away by now !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" <> Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License to Watch TV in Britain? > The licenses used to be for the individual TV set not the viewer... At > least > it was in the 60s and the 90s.... > > As to "normal" driving in France - apparently you didn't venture into > Paris > and fight off all the 2CVs... ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <>wrote: > >> Just got back from two weeks in Britain and a couple of days in Paris. . >> watched some TV in our various Brit hotel rooms. . had no idea I needed >> to >> get a license to do so? I guess the hotels are covered under a blanket >> license of some sort? Strange stuff to say the least. >> >> And did driving on the left side of the road really stem from the days of >> jousting as I was told by a few Brits while there? >> >> You can all tear this one apart as you see fit. . but supposedly the >> jousting thing transferred to horse back and buggy days to automobiles as >> the jousters would hold their poles under their right arms facing off >> with >> each other. >> >> Just what I was told. . . >> >> Kirk >> >> When in France the driving returned to "normal." >> _______________________________________________ From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 22 08:20:09 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:20:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... In-Reply-To: <1397240720.772590.1306066949167.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1397240720.772590.1306066949167.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <-5515908804165823023@unknownmsgid> Suppose they have one for the Clubman? David L From grday at btinternet.com Sun May 22 09:01:19 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:01:19 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving on the left - was TV License References: Message-ID: <0C9DCE2243544C59BE8ED3647E00F1D8@user8634b3d69b> Jousting was a game not invented when driving on the left was established. Go back to Italian Roman times when sliding your chariot about was in fashion and even in those days you steered it on the left. Evidenced from old quarries where deeper grooves in the road surface showed which side the laden carts were on when they were leaving the quarry. This was imported into the UK when we lost that invasion and the same wear pattern was found over here as well. The next thing is similar to what Kirk says but, as people were naturally right handed they held a sword in that hand and would face danger to the right. In this case danger was from the right, the oncoming person. Of minor interest is the direction of a spiral staircase, where the attacker - coming from lower down - would be at a disadvantage to the right-handed defender in a properly built spiral staircase. This does not always hold true as some were built with a 'widdershins' (left handed) spiral. Next comes Napoleon who decreed in true Gaelic style that France would drive on the right because England drove on the left. Or so it is said. Around this time was the American War of Independence and France was supporting that in the right places in America. The USA version of Parliamentarians appreciated that support and yet another group of people (America) essayed forth on the right. However, there are also stories about which side you hold or lead a team of horses and this led to driving on the right - but that could be confusing fact with a good story. Finally, the oldest documentary evidence in the UK about laws for driving on the left was made 19 March 1722 by the Bridgehouse Lands Committee in pursuance of the order of the Court of Aldermen following instruction of the Lord Mayor of London, Sir Gerard CONYERS, for making better regulation of the passage over London Bridge. They appointed a street keeper called Edward GEORGE to do keep people to the left but he popped his clogs the day after he was appointed. A chap called Richard NASH, another street keeper, was appointed to force traffic to drive on the left. Parliament made this a national recommendation in 1773 (they were not empowered to make traffic laws in those days) but this became a national law (when they were empowered) in 1835. So the history of that abominated profession, the traffic warden, was born. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <> To: Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] License to Watch TV in Britain? > Just got back from two weeks in Britain and a couple of days in Paris. . > watched some TV in our various Brit hotel rooms. . had no idea I needed > to > get a license to do so? I guess the hotels are covered under a blanket > license of some sort? Strange stuff to say the least. > > And did driving on the left side of the road really stem from the days of > jousting as I was told by a few Brits while there? > > You can all tear this one apart as you see fit. . but supposedly the > jousting thing transferred to horse back and buggy days to automobiles as > the jousters would hold their poles under their right arms facing off with > each other. > > Just what I was told. . . > > Kirk > > When in France the driving returned to "normal." > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 22 09:45:23 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:45:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... In-Reply-To: <721462.54748.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <721462.54748.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DD92F93.7000404@justbrits.com> << b... but can only afford a MINI? Here's the solution: http://www.cobra-car-design.de/usa.html >> It is kinda kewl Rick, but I wonder how many are gonna get sold ?? Makes one wonder just how WELL the mold AND clip are made. NO pics ?!? What's wrong wid that pic ?? Is there an Option of the "Nerf-bar" Front Bumper ?? << Hmmm, I wonder if someone could make a Bugeye nose for a MINI? >> Sure. QUIT screwing around and FINISH yer "Nasty-boy" and THEN get started on a "FrogMiniRa" carbon fiber clip !!! Wyoming William From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun May 22 10:00:44 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 09:00:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... In-Reply-To: <1397240720.772590.1306066949167.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Now they just need to chop the roof a few inches and make the back look like a CRX. From robert.duquette at me.com Sun May 22 13:34:05 2011 From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 15:34:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra ... In-Reply-To: References: <721462.54748.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Did you see the pics of the 100S conversion of a Bugeye in (was it?) Healey Marque? Robert > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:02 PM, HealeyRick wrote: >> b... but can only afford a MINI? Here's the solution: >> http://www.cobra-car-design.de/usa.html Hmmm, I wonder if someone could > make >> a Bugeye nose for a MINI? > _______________________________________________ From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun May 22 14:55:35 2011 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:55:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes Message-ID: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have practically nothing. I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, but it's dangerous at best.. I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system hasn't been the same since. At first the gears were grinding and I had them fix it. Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? If so, what's the easiest method to get at it. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sun May 22 15:15:26 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 21:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] brakes* In-Reply-To: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <1719371336.700623.1306098926525.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> EZ Bleed feeds brake fluid into the system by air pressure doesn't it?B I like that system as opposed to the Mighty Vac type of system that sucks the fluid through.B I bought a Mighty Vac and could never totally get the air bubbles out of the lines.B Not worth a crap. --David C. "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." ----- Original Message ----- From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] brakes I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have practically nothing. B I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, but it's dangerous at best.. I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system hasn't been the same since. B At first the gears were grinding and I had them fix it. Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? B If so, what's the easiest method to get at it. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] brakes I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have practically nothing. B I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, but it's dangerous at best.. I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system hasn't been the same since. B At first the gears were grinding and I had them fix it. Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? B If so, what's the easiest method to get at it. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun May 22 15:24:29 2011 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:24:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes* Message-ID: <0757d71d8726e8a4b5c8f3b76b161791.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> It's a tube with a fitting on one end to fit over the bleeder valve. The other end has a fitting that has a spring inside with a ball to allow fluid to go out but prevent backflow of air. It's worked for me before. Right now, I don't know where I have air in the system. > > > EZ Bleed feeds brake fluid into the system by air pressure doesn't it?B I > like that system as opposed to the Mighty Vac type of system that sucks > the fluid through.B I bought a Mighty Vac and could never totally get the > air bubbles out of the lines.B Not worth a crap. > > > --David C. > "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] brakes > > I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the > brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. > I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have > practically nothing. B I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, > but it's dangerous at best.. > I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system > hasn't been the same since. B At first the gears were grinding and I had > them fix it. > Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? B If so, what's the easiest > method to get at it. > Thanks. > Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] brakes > > I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the > brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. > I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have > practically nothing. B I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, > but it's dangerous at best.. > I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system > hasn't been the same since. B At first the gears were grinding and I had > them fix it. > Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? B If so, what's the easiest > method to get at it. > Thanks. > Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sun May 22 15:27:39 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 21:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] brakes* In-Reply-To: <0757d71d8726e8a4b5c8f3b76b161791.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <1772003193.700926.1306099659671.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> So it works on the same suck principle as teh Mighty Vac.B Could be your problem.B I think the most effective are those that push the fluid into the master by air pressure.B Probably others on here that like the Mighty Vac system, but I think it sucks, not to use a play on words. 8^) --David C. "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." ----- Original Message ----- From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net To: dlancer7676 at comcast.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:24:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brakes* It's a tube with a fitting on one end to fit over the bleeder valve. B The other end has a fitting that has a spring inside with a ball to allow fluid to go out but prevent backflow of air. B It's worked for me before. Right now, I don't know where I have air in the system. > > > EZ Bleed feeds brake fluid into the system by air pressure doesn't it?CB I > like that system as opposed to the Mighty Vac type of system that sucks > the fluid through.CB I bought a Mighty Vac and could never totally get the > air bubbles out of the lines.CB Not worth a crap. > > > --David C. > "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] brakes > > I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the > brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. > I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have > practically nothing. CB I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, > but it's dangerous at best.. > I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system > hasn't been the same since. CB At first the gears were grinding and I had > them fix it. > Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? CB If so, what's the easiest > method to get at it. > Thanks. > Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation CB $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] brakes > > I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the > brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. > I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have > practically nothing. CB I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, > but it's dangerous at best.. > I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system > hasn't been the same since. CB At first the gears were grinding and I had > them fix it. > Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? CB If so, what's the easiest > method to get at it. > Thanks. > Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation CB $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 22 15:50:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:50:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes In-Reply-To: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <4DD98523.2030603@justbrits.com> This is gonna cover a couple Posts !! << It's a tube with a fitting on one end to fit over the bleeder valve. The other end has a fitting that has a spring inside with a ball to allow fluid to go out but prevent backflow of air. It's worked for me before. >> THAT Dick, is NOT an eeZbleed. Gunson "product", yep !! Off hand, do NOT recall it's "proper" name but NOT what you posted. << I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels... >> 1st - is there some reason you canNOT just jack ALL four [4] corners and place jack stands so car is LEVEL ?? 2nd - WHICH fluid [GT/LMA *I* hope] ?? Need those answers before I can proceed ! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun May 22 15:50:37 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:50:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes References: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: Dick, I saw a tip a few years back and have had very good luck with it. Use a new pump type oil can and fit a hose on the spout. Fill with brake fluid and fill the line backwards from the slave to the master. Just watch that you don't over fill the master and spill it. Especially good on clutch slaves where you have just one line. Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] brakes I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have practically nothing. I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, but it's dangerous at best.. I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system hasn't been the same since. At first the gears were grinding and I had them fix it. Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? If so, what's the easiest method to get at it. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mark at nashvilletn.org From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun May 22 16:11:50 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 15:11:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes* In-Reply-To: <1772003193.700926.1306099659671.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: > Probably others on here that like the Mighty Vac > system, but I think it sucks, not to use a play on words. 8^) I never got my Mighty Vac to work on brakes. I like the Speed Bleeder nipples, but there's no substitute for having two people to bleed brakes. BZ From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 22 16:30:51 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 18:30:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes* In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-5184427967710857267@unknownmsgid> The Motion Pro Easy Bleed (like Dick has) is a very different animal from the Gunson Eezi-Bleed. It works quite well for fluid flushing and is quite adequate for one-man hydraulic bleeding. Never used mine since I got the Gunson. OTOH, it sounds like it did a fine job on Dick's brakes, but that there is a seal problem in a cylinder or joint somewhere. At this point a reasonably competent assistant would be valuable in determining which wheels seem to have brakes when you pump the pedal. I suspect a fitting is not quite tight and is allowing air into the system. David L From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun May 22 17:01:55 2011 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:01:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes Message-ID: Thanks for all the replies. There are numerous things I will try next weekend when I have a day off. I'll post the results. From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 22 17:07:06 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 18:07:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD9971A.3080307@justbrits.com> << Thanks for all the replies >> Dick, if you 'answer' my questions, I'll be happy to give all " And now you know the rest of the story. " [Tnx to Paul Harvey] ! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 22 17:11:49 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 23:11:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes Message-ID: If your clutch slave is not an OEM part I suggest taking it apart to make sure it is clean on the inside. Last year I purchased one from LBCC and after I had trouble bleeding it decided to bench bleed it first. As I was taking it off the piston popped out, lucky thing, as the chamber was filled with metal machine filings. After cleaning it and bench bleeding it worked just fine. Good luck, Steve ------Original Message------ From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes Sent: May 22, 2011 7:01 PM Thanks for all the replies. There are numerous things I will try next weekend when I have a day off. I'll post the results. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 22 17:51:19 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 23:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] brakes* In-Reply-To: <1719371336.700623.1306098926525.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <193180443.488290.1306108279197.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I must have an earlier Mitey-Vac. It is made of metal, has a pressure/vacuum gauge built in and has a both a vacuum and a pressure connection. I've used it with success for many years now. But,,, if SWMBO has great looking legs.. then two people are best.. --At my age I'm allowed these sort of comments -- -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:15:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brakes* EZ Bleed feeds brake fluid into the system by air pressure doesn't it?B I like that system as opposed to the Mighty Vac type of system that sucks the fluid through.B I bought a Mighty Vac and could never totally get the air bubbles out of the lines.B Not worth a crap. --David C. "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." ----- Original Message ----- From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] brakes I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have practically nothing. B I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, but it's dangerous at best.. I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system hasn't been the same since. B At first the gears were grinding and I had them fix it. Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? B If so, what's the easiest method to get at it. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:55:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] brakes I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have practically nothing. B I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, but it's dangerous at best.. I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system hasn't been the same since. B At first the gears were grinding and I had them fix it. Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? B If so, what's the easiest method to get at it. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kk7ss at frontier.com From frogeye at cox.net Sun May 22 18:49:49 2011 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 20:49:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend Message-ID: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> It was great seeing those off the list that stopped by. Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy rain and some lightning nearby Saturday made up for it to some extent. Itbs always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and how much of each Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs dwindling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well attended. But always great talking parts and cars and deals Alan From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 22 19:57:38 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 20:57:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> References: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> Message-ID: Somewhere above Frank is grinning with the knowledge that at long last he is vindicated as being the "Rain Man". Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, alan wrote: > It was great seeing those off the list that stopped by. > Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy rain and > some > lightning nearby > Saturday made up for it to some extent. > Itb s always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and > how much of each > Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itb s > dwindling size and the fact itb s the smallest venue there and not well > attended. > But always great talking parts and cars and deals > Alan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Sun May 22 20:57:08 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 22:57:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for some bits... Message-ID: Actually, I'm hoping some of you can help me out with something for the Midget 50th event this summer. There will be a few "extra awards" presented and I'd like to make the awards from old Spridget pistons. If anyone has any junk pistons that have not found their way to the trash bin, please contact me if you are willing to donate them. 1500, 948, 1098, 1275 ... does not matter. Cracked, gouged, busted ring lands... no problem (I actually prefer a bit of patina). Thanks -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon May 23 00:01:59 2011 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 23:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits Message-ID: <641958.49274.qm@web114703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Greetings, Has anyone tried one of these on their spridget (or minor or mini) yet? http://vmaxscart.co.uk/supercharger-kits-conversions/ http://www.jonspeedracing.co.uk/index.php?webpage=store.php&cID=2130 http://www.minispeed.co.uk/content/supercharger-carb-kit Same blower as the Moss kit, no bypass though I think. a number of mini houses are making them, Vmaxscart says he has a kit for spridgets now. Though I think my Mk2a Sprite will need a cut to fit the drive pulley on the crank. It barely fits a normal 1275 crank damper pulley. Keen to hear from anyone running an M45 on their spridget. cheers Andy From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon May 23 03:54:16 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 04:54:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits In-Reply-To: <641958.49274.qm@web114703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <641958.49274.qm@web114703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Daniel1312 will tell you that building your engine up to install this is the first thing you need to do. You just can't bolt it on and hope for the best. On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Andy Webster wrote: > Greetings, > > Has anyone tried one of these on their spridget (or minor or mini) yet? > > http://vmaxscart.co.uk/supercharger-kits-conversions/ > > http://www.jonspeedracing.co.uk/index.php?webpage=store.php&cID=2130 > > http://www.minispeed.co.uk/content/supercharger-carb-kit > > > Same blower as the Moss kit, no bypass though I think. > > a number of mini houses are making them, Vmaxscart says he has a kit for > spridgets now. > > Though I think my Mk2a Sprite will need a cut to fit the drive pulley on > the > crank. It barely fits a normal 1275 crank damper pulley. > Keen to hear from anyone running an M45 on their spridget. > > > cheers > Andy > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Mon May 23 06:38:57 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 13:38:57 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 48, Issue 71 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [Spridgets] Always wanted a Cobra Go on then, I give in, how does one get into the engine bay of the Cobrini ? alan Warwick UK From millerls at ado13.com Mon May 23 08:05:12 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 07:05:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Parts In-Reply-To: <519671.33585.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <519671.33585.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A friend in Atascadero, Ca is parting a chrome bumper Midget, no engine or tranny. email is fj_arrrrr at yahoo.com. Larry Miller From heard at datatrontech.net Mon May 23 08:27:04 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:27:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering wheel refurb Message-ID: <037801cc1955$7d44d7c0$77ce8740$@net> For those of you who've done it, what is the best paint to use on the steering wheel? I've got it all patched and sanded but I would like to hear what you used for paint and how it is holding up. Thanks, Heard From heard at datatrontech.net Mon May 23 08:37:11 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:37:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics of temp line Message-ID: <038301cc1956$e6b97f20$b42c7d60$@net> For a '60 Bugeye. I need a description or pics of the routing of the temp line. Thanks, Heard From cmlove at knology.net Mon May 23 08:46:49 2011 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 09:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs In-Reply-To: <393713937.468024.1305911572636.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <20110520164623.77VZL.17673.root@cdptpa-web20-z02> <393713937.468024.1305911572636.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <000001cc1958$3f96b6c0$bec42440$@net> Thanks for all the help on the Bearing spacer and front hubs. Very good stuff... Monty, Huntsville, Alabama -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 12:13 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing spacer, front hubs An excellent analysis of the funtion of the spacer, it's reason for being and on which vehicles it can be found is here:- http://www.mgexperience.net/article/mg-midget-wheel-bearings.html The analysis starts about halfway down the page at the section headed "Attachment 1" -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cmlove at knology.net From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon May 23 09:25:52 2011 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:25:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering wheel refurb In-Reply-To: <037801cc1955$7d44d7c0$77ce8740$@net> References: <037801cc1955$7d44d7c0$77ce8740$@net> Message-ID: I Restored a 41 Ford Pickup Truck Steering Wheel and used regular PPG Black basecoat Clearcoat. The wheel has stood up for a few years with no signs of Wear. Of course my brother owns a PPG Body shop, so I have an advantage. If you are friendly with a Body shop owner, I suggest you give them the wheel and have them shoot it with the next Black Car fender, hood, they paint. This will eliminate custom mixing etc. etc. Good luck. Jim F -----Original Message----- From: Heard Saxon Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 10:27 AM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Steering wheel refurb For those of you who've done it, what is the best paint to use on the steering wheel? I've got it all patched and sanded but I would like to hear what you used for paint and how it is holding up. Thanks, Heard Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 23 09:33:23 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:33:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pics of temp line In-Reply-To: <038301cc1956$e6b97f20$b42c7d60$@net> References: <038301cc1956$e6b97f20$b42c7d60$@net> Message-ID: <4DDA7E43.9040207@justbrits.com> << I need a description or pics of the routing of the temp line. >> Pics OK instead, Heard ??? #1 - On my site ---> "Spec. Cars & Spec. People ---> Sprites ---> "Nevada Beige Cars" ---> "Nancy & Curt's ---> Bottom right pic. #2 - On my site ---> "Spec. Cars & Spec. People ---> Sprites ---> "Dave Woerpel's Frogeye" ---> Bottom Center - USE "huge' link. If using Mozilla's ThunderBird [ best of the BEST & FREE M ], RIGHT click & select "View Image" [opens new page with pic only], and ZOOM IN 3 or 4 time. You can see the "tube" exiting from underneath & on outboard side. then at radiator. ALSO see [with arrows]: http://www.justbrits.com/cars/00_arndt07.jpg AND http://www.justbrits.com/cars/00_Wengine.jpg [use "zoom" feature of you browser here also ] Heard, the "coils" in the tube [by radiator] 'should' be more in a verticle 'plane' and between 2.5 & 3 coils [install dependant]. Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party _ _http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 23 09:43:17 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:43:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering wheel refurb In-Reply-To: <037801cc1955$7d44d7c0$77ce8740$@net> References: <037801cc1955$7d44d7c0$77ce8740$@net> Message-ID: <4DDA8095.5050105@justbrits.com> << For those of you who've done it, what is the best paint to use on the steering wheel? >> Heard, for the positively BEST answers, use the Archives Link at bottom of EVERY List Post. BUT instead of [naturally] Spridgets, select [ Big ] "Healeys". SEVERAL posts including one containing Roger Moment's "methods". For those that do not know the NAME, Roger IS one of the top 3 - 4 folks in The World when it comes to things like this, right HealeyRick & Mark E. ????????? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party _ _http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 23 10:17:45 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:17:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits In-Reply-To: References: <641958.49274.qm@web114703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DDA88A9.4090107@justbrits.com> Andy, Brad is 1000% correct !! << Daniel1312 >> AKA weslakemonza1330 [ just of late and "better" known as ] << will tell you that building your engine up to install this is the first thing you need to do. You just can't bolt it on and hope for the best. >> VERY 'different' "build" than you might think !!! And "pray" would be a better word than "hope" IMNSVHO !!!! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at "Road America" ! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ Elkhart Lake, WI ! From lmacy at mac.com Mon May 23 11:06:39 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 13:06:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> References: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> Message-ID: <2F135B92-4D2C-40D2-9AD8-53496CDC1F5F@mac.com> The swap field gets smaller and smaller. BUt that was the most cars I have ever seen there!! Larry On May 22, 2011, at 20:49 PM, alan wrote: > It was great seeing those off the list that stopped by. > Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy rain and some > lightning nearby > Saturday made up for it to some extent. > Itbs always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and > how much of each > Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs > dwindling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well > attended. > But always great talking parts and cars and deals > Alan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. - Edgar Allen Poe From peter at nosimport.com Mon May 23 11:23:20 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 12:23:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Square Sprite parts car Seattle Message-ID: <201105231023239.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> From the Healey list... NFI (which could mean no financial interest... or not) Peter C - >X-Original-To: healeys at autox.team.net > >Hi List, > >I got a call from a guy who wants to sell a '67 Sprite for parts. His >price is negotiable (low) and he just wants to move everything out. >The doors are off, it has no bonnet, grill or windshield but it does >have a hardtop and luggage rack. The metal looks OK. >Rebuild into an electric car? >There is an engine in there, all of the plastic parts seem to be >gone. I have seen worse. >Seattle area. >Write and I will forward pictures and phone number if you are >interested. > >Rob From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon May 23 12:21:13 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:21:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering wheel refurb In-Reply-To: <4DDA8095.5050105@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Any paint product that's been illegal in California for twenty years or more should work fine. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 23 14:58:40 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits Message-ID: <57a65.78b482db.3b0c2480@aol.com> Hi Andy, I live in Nuneaton where Jonspeed are based. All the kits seem to be the same kit using an Eaton blower. The think to watch with their kit and probably the others is that you'd need to adapt the kit to an in-line installation rather than transverse. The second thing is that you need to bear in mind where the steering column is going to be in relation to the blower and stuff. The biggest issue though is that the engine will produce such a massive amount of torque you need something other than a Spridget gearbox. I'd guess you'll need a serious bonnet bulge which on a LHD car is smack in front of your vision. Probably if you were going to do this you could buy a used turbo conversion for the A-series and end up spending less money - IF YOU PUT A PROPER IGNITION RETARD ON IT. It's even been done in the USA with a little bit of extra work to avoid having any bonnet bulge whatsoever. Engine stuff - lots of things to think about. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 23/05/2011 07:02:10 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: Greetings, Has anyone tried one of these on their spridget (or minor or mini) yet? http://vmaxscart.co.uk/supercharger-kits-conversions/ http://www.jonspeedracing.co.uk/index.php?webpage=store.php&cID=2130 http://www.minispeed.co.uk/content/supercharger-carb-kit Same blower as the Moss kit, no bypass though I think. a number of mini houses are making them, Vmaxscart says he has a kit for spridgets now. Though I think my Mk2a Sprite will need a cut to fit the drive pulley on the crank. It barely fits a normal 1275 crank damper pulley. Keen to hear from anyone running an M45 on their spridget. cheers Andy _______________________________________________ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 23 15:04:20 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 17:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway Message-ID: <57efe.592d73d0.3b0c25d4@aol.com> No worries Mike. In the USA, from what I understand, you have the NHRA for drag racing, the SCCA for circuit racing, IMSA? for sports prototypes and CART? for single seaters. Here in the UK we have the MSA for drag racing, circuit racing for vintage cars through to moderns, sports prototypes and single seaters up to F1. Yep, one sanctioning body that controls the lot. England is a small country that doesn't tolerate racing numbers on road cars to the extent no self respecting enthusiast would even think of it. It's a cultural difference I hadn't realised wasn't universal and I have been to the USA on 3 occasions. Remember it wasn't that long ago a man with a red flag had to walk in front of an automobile. _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive_Acts_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive_Acts) Seems like some states had a similar rule? Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/05/2011 04:36:54 GMT Daylight Time, lotuspilot at frontier.com writes: Please do not take me so seriously. I emailed simply for something to do. I understand that everyone views things differently. I will say that I am too much American to ever enjoy England ;^)). Mike From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:16:39 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 18:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Retire in peace with our eternal thanks... Message-ID: Just learned this.... For many of you vets.... The last UH-1 Iroquois Huey helicopter was retired on May 17, 2011 at Fort Rucker, AL. RIP... I have many fond memories of the old gal.... -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon May 23 17:27:21 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:27:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Retire in peace with our eternal thanks... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9BE69F0ECE5940FDAF5F88A28E49D8A8@spider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_UH-1_Iroquois =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 4:17 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Retire in peace with our eternal thanks... Just learned this.... For many of you vets.... The last UH-1 Iroquois Huey helicopter was retired on May 17, 2011 at Fort Rucker, AL. RIP... I have many fond memories of the old gal.... -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:47:49 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:47:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye siting... Message-ID: Was that a Bugeye in the latest Geico commercial? - Tom From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:54:17 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:54:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes In-Reply-To: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: Mechanic in Maine suggested open the bleeders and let gravity do the work. Does that work, or does the master cylinder prevent that from working? Two weeks of rain? It seems like forever!! - Tom On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 4:55 PM, wrote: > I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the > brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. > I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have > practically nothing. I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, > but it's dangerous at best.. > I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system > hasn't been the same since. At first the gears were grinding and I had > them fix it. > Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? If so, what's the easiest > method to get at it. > Thanks. > Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah3000me at gmail.com From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:58:35 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:58:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye siting... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 23, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Tom wrote: > Bugeye in the latest Geico commercial This? http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php? v=200018423375171&oid=193023956483&comments It looks like a compilation of cars.... Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 23 18:09:11 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 19:09:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes In-Reply-To: References: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <4DDAF727.3010106@tx.rr.com> I don't know about the specific car in question, but typically gravity doesn't do it. You need one wrench, one arm, and one foot. Unfortunately the foot needs to be attached to a different body from the hand. > Mechanic in Maine suggested open the bleeders and let gravity do the work. > Does that work, or does the master cylinder prevent that from working? From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon May 23 18:14:50 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 17:14:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye siting... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can't expect too much....A lizard must have built it. On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > On May 23, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Tom wrote: > > > Bugeye in the latest Geico commercial > > This? > > http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php? > v=200018423375171&oid=193023956483&comments > > It looks like a compilation of cars.... > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon May 23 18:19:35 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 17:19:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits In-Reply-To: References: <641958.49274.qm@web114703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I built a 240Z for autocross, hillclimb in '75. Rebuilt the engine nine times before getting it to 'stay together'. But, hey, 32 psi from a turbo. Ran AP. At the drags (once I finally got it to run the full 1/4 mile) it ran 11:98 @ 118. Such fun. Point is, as stated, build the engine first and you ought not have problems...under modest boost. Herb From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon May 23 18:46:19 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 20:46:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye siting... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yup, that's the one. Now that I get a better look at it, it looks like the front of a Bugeye and the rear of a Big Healey. Someone there likes Healeys. - Tom On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > > On May 23, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Tom wrote: > > Bugeye in the latest Geico commercial > > > This? > > > http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=200018423375171&oid=193023956483&comments > > It looks like a compilation of cars.... > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 23 20:51:18 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 22:51:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: References: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> Message-ID: Jim that is really a sweet thought. Lin Note: Internet is finally up after 5 days Verizon major trouble. On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Somewhere above Frank is grinning with the knowledge that at long last he > is > vindicated as being the "Rain Man". > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, alan wrote: > > > It was great seeing those off the list that stopped by. > > Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy rain and > > some > > lightning nearby > > Saturday made up for it to some extent. > > Itb s always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there > and > > how much of each > > Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itb s > > dwindling size and the fact itb s the smallest venue there and not well > > attended. > > But always great talking parts and cars and deals > > Alan > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 23 23:09:03 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 00:09:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits In-Reply-To: References: <641958.49274.qm@web114703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Unless you have a Miata. You can bolt a turbo onto a stock Miata motor and at least double the HP. The motors have the internals to handle the boost. You just need a snail and bigger injectors and engine management. I don't think anything but all out race motors will take 30+ pounds of boost but the older Miatas do fine up to 18 or so. > > Point is, as stated, build the engine first and you ought not have > problems...under modest boost. > > Herb From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Tue May 24 04:05:12 2011 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 03:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <609295.34387.qm@web114720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi all and thanks for the responses, when I built the engine about 5K-7K miles ago, I put ARP fasteners all through the bottom end. I was thinking of a centre main strap, but couldn't see the point of grinding down the factory bearting cap to suit it. I figured that high RPM was the enemy here anyway, more than piston forces. It is a 72 midget engine, 1275cc thick flange, datsun 5 speed box behind it. Has a belt drive cam, so there is no breather in the front. (i take it off the mech fuel pump drive but that might need a rethink/reshape) I will be fitting a big chamber head (28cc), and if that proves not to be enough, deeper dish pistons. Steering column is not an issue for me. I'm in Australia. I know that getting the ignition to be correct will require some electronic boffinry. (I think "Jaycar" made a boost retard kit) But can getting it acceptable be done with a suitably recurved and retarded distributor? Slightly off topic, are those "Fidanza" flywheels any good? cheers, Andy --- On Tue, 24/5/11, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits To: "WFO Herb" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Received: Tuesday, 24 May, 2011, 3:09 PM Unless you have a Miata. You can bolt a turbo onto a stock Miata motor and at least double the HP. The motors have the internals to handle the boost. You just need a snail and bigger injectors and engine management. I don't think anything but all out race motors will take 30+ pounds of boost but the older Miatas do fine up to 18 or so. > > Point is, as stated, build the engine first and you ought not have > problems...under modest boost. > > Herb Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Tue May 24 04:19:42 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 03:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> References: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> Message-ID: <563048.64640.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> the show was very hectic on saturday for us. we arived friday night in the '67 2 stroke street saab and ended staying up untill 2:30an saturday morning with a friend we race with up on the hill in our race trailer. saturday morning we arived on the show field and we were converged upon by saabistas wanting to see the '60 93f race car and about a thousand questions folowed. as much as i tried to get away mary anne & i did not get to the swap meet until sunday morning. by then many vendors had left. funny what people abandon when they leave. in someone's discarded junk , i picked up 2 front spridget shocks and an upper trunion , along with a throttle cable. yeah i brought all that stuff home....we had a great time and i'm still very sore and my neck is sun burned! central penn saab club came here and towed our race car in the trailer out to carlisle and as of last night returned the trailer home for us. our tow vehicle's trans needs to be rebuilt or we would have towed it. central penn saab club did a wonderfull job with all their activities and meals. we missed gathering staurday for lunch with evryone. that bothered me. but it was very hectic with two cars on the show field. weather? pennsylrainia? this was about the best remembered year weather wise. vehicle attendance was impressive too! we are planning to be back next year with the bugeye and a saab (not certain which one)! chuck It was great seeing those off the list that stopped by. Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy rain and some lightning nearby Saturday made up for it to some extent. Itbs always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and how much of each Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs dwindling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well attended. But always great talking parts and cars and deals Alan _______________________________________________ ________________________________ From: alan To: list Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 8:49:49 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Tue May 24 05:13:06 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 04:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits (Andy Webster) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50954.6576.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Note at the bottom of their web site, caveat emptor! superchargers supplied in our kits and conversions are used items From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue May 24 06:48:49 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 05:48:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits In-Reply-To: <609295.34387.qm@web114720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <609295.34387.qm@web114720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Andy, You might want to consider the MegaSquirt ECU. Can be used to control ignition, boost control and just about anything else, depending on your sensors and just what you want. Glen Byrns who has been on this list but whose posts I have not noticed lately has successfully used a MS to inject his turbocharged Bugeye, and is using it to control the spark map as well, driven by a Pertronix and firing through the distributor. If one were to use a crank trigger the distributor could be dispensed with entirely and the drive hole for the dizzy could be used for crankcase ventilation. The latest iteration can control up to eight sequential injectors and can even control individual cylinders firing coil-on-plug ignition. The MS does have a fairly steep learning curve, however, because it is so flexible and is based on open source software. Hal On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Andy Webster wrote: > Hi all and thanks for the responses, > when I built the engine about 5K-7K miles ago, I put ARP fasteners all > through > the bottom end. I was thinking of a centre main strap, but couldn't see the > point of grinding down the factory bearting cap to suit it. I figured that > high RPM was the enemy here anyway, more than piston forces. > It is a 72 midget engine, 1275cc thick flange, datsun 5 speed box behind > it. > > Has a belt drive cam, so there is no breather in the front. (i take it off > the mech fuel pump drive but that might need a rethink/reshape) > I will be fitting a big chamber head (28cc), and if that proves not to be > enough, deeper dish pistons. > Steering column is not an issue for me. I'm in Australia. > I know that getting the ignition to be correct will require some electronic > boffinry. > (I think "Jaycar" made a boost retard kit) > But can getting it acceptable be done with a suitably recurved and retarded > distributor? > > Slightly off topic, are those "Fidanza" flywheels any good? > > cheers, > > Andy > > > > --- On Tue, 24/5/11, derf wrote: > > From: derf > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits > To: "WFO Herb" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Received: Tuesday, 24 May, 2011, 3:09 PM > > Unless you have a Miata. You can bolt a turbo onto a stock Miata > motor and at least double the HP. The motors have the internals to > handle the boost. > You just need a snail and bigger injectors and engine management. > I don't think anything but all out race motors will take 30+ pounds of > boost but the older Miatas do fine up to 18 or so. > > > > > > Point is, as stated, build the engine first and you ought not have > > problems...under modest boost. > > > > Herb > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From lotuspilot at frontier.com Tue May 24 07:39:08 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <563048.64640.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <919161374.513738.1306244348097.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Did any of the Saabistros ask how a Saab can be driving perfectly fine down a straight-stretch and turn over and spin in the middle of the road upside down on its top. I will never forget that day at Summit Point Raceway. I was watching as the back-markers go through and all of a sudden I see this Saab do this trick. It is good to have you back on the list. I cannot believe that VIR got canned this year. What do you think happened there? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles christ" To: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:19:42 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend the show was very hectic on saturday for us. we arived friday night in the '67 2 stroke street saab and ended staying up untill 2:30an saturday morning with a friend we race with up on the hill in our race trailer. saturday morning we arived on the show field and we were converged upon by saabistas wanting to see the '60 93f race car and about a thousand questions folowed. as much as i tried to get away mary anne & i did not get to the swap meet until sunday morning. by then many vendors had left. funny what people abandon when they leave. in someone's discarded junk , i picked up 2 front spridget shocks and an upper trunion , along with a throttle cable. yeah i brought all that stuff home....we had a great time and i'm still very sore and my neck is sun burned! central penn saab club came here and towed our race car in the trailer out to carlisle and as of last night returned the trailer home for us. our tow vehicle's trans needs to be rebuilt or we would have towed it. central penn saab club did a wonderfull job with all their activities and meals. we missed gathering staurday for lunch with evryone. that bothered me. but it was very hectic with two cars on the show field. weather? pennsylrainia? this was about the best remembered year weather wise. vehicle attendance was impressive too! we are planning to be back next year with the bugeye and a saab (not certain which one)! chuck It was great seeing those off the list that stopped by. Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy rain and some lightning nearby Saturday made up for it to some extent. Itbs always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and how much of each Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs dwindling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well attended. But always great talking parts and cars and deals Alan From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue May 24 07:46:47 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 06:46:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <919161374.513738.1306244348097.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <563048.64640.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <919161374.513738.1306244348097.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <3C1120DC876D41D5A599178DFD4F1D5D@spider> I did that about 1967 with a VW Bug at the airport track in Newport Oregon. ============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lotuspilot at frontier.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:39 AM To: charles christ Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend Did any of the Saabistros ask how a Saab can be driving perfectly fine down a straight-stretch and turn over and spin in the middle of the road upside down on its top. I will never forget that day at Summit Point Raceway. I was watching as the back-markers go through and all of a sudden I see this Saab do this trick. It is good to have you back on the list. I cannot believe that VIR got canned this year. What do you think happened there? Mike From lmacy at mac.com Tue May 24 08:02:41 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:02:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye siting... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The backend reminds me more of an MGA than a Healey. Also the doors have a TR-2/3 swoopiness to them. Larry On May 23, 2011, at 20:46 PM, Tom wrote: > Yup, that's the one. Now that I get a better look at it, it looks like the > front of a Bugeye and the rear of a Big Healey. > > Someone there likes Healeys. > > - Tom > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > >> >> On May 23, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Tom wrote: >> >> Bugeye in the latest Geico commercial >> >> >> This? >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=200018423375171&oid=193023956483&comments >> >> It looks like a compilation of cars.... >> >> Kevin V. >> Tuscarora, Pa > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Some people are like a Slinky, not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. - Anon From lotuspilot at frontier.com Tue May 24 08:37:45 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <3C1120DC876D41D5A599178DFD4F1D5D@spider> Message-ID: <1102650999.514592.1306247865158.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I can tell you that it is the funniest thing to watch. Is it something to do with the shape of the car? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:46:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend I did that about 1967 with a VW Bug at the airport track in Newport Oregon. ============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lotuspilot at frontier.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:39 AM To: charles christ Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend Did any of the Saabistros ask how a Saab can be driving perfectly fine down a straight-stretch and turn over and spin in the middle of the road upside down on its top. I will never forget that day at Summit Point Raceway. I was watching as the back-markers go through and all of a sudden I see this Saab do this trick. It is good to have you back on the list. I cannot believe that VIR got canned this year. What do you think happened there? Mike From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 24 09:05:07 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 08:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. Message-ID: <462425.83815.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I think Fazdaboog has finally realized the value of his Bugeye. http://tinyurl.com/3jhx2xd jay fishbein wallingford, ct From grday at btinternet.com Tue May 24 09:08:37 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:08:37 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend References: <919161374.513738.1306244348097.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <9DDF5FE1444B4A869B7017720285A400@user8634b3d69b> Saab may not live too much longer. After being abandoned by GM they have also been rejected by one Chinese company and are currently making overtures to a Chinese car distributor to get a cash injection. If this fails or falls it will probably be RIP Saab. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: "charles christ" <> Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend > Did any of the Saabistros ask how a Saab can be driving perfectly fine > down a straight-stretch and turn over and spin in the middle of the road > upside down on its top. I will never forget that day at Summit Point > Raceway. I was watching as the back-markers go through and all of a > sudden I see this Saab do this trick. > > It is good to have you back on the list. I cannot believe that VIR got > canned this year. What do you think happened there? > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles christ" <> > To: "spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:19:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend > > the show was very hectic on saturday for us. we arived friday night in > the > '67 2 stroke street saab and ended staying up untill 2:30an saturday > morning > with a friend we race with up on the hill in our race > trailer. saturday morning > we arived on the show field and we were converged > upon by saabistas wanting to > see the '60 93f race car and about a thousand > questions folowed. as much as i > tried to get away mary anne & i did not > get to the swap meet until sunday > morning. by then many vendors had left. > funny what people abandon when they > leave. in someone's discarded junk , i > picked up 2 front spridget shocks and > an upper trunion , along with a > throttle cable. yeah i brought all that stuff > home....we had a great time > and i'm still very sore and my neck is sun burned! > > central penn saab club > came here and towed our race car in the trailer out to > carlisle and as of > last night returned the trailer home for us. our tow > vehicle's trans needs > to be rebuilt or we would have towed it. central penn > saab club did a > wonderfull job with all their activities and meals. > > we missed gathering > staurday for lunch with evryone. that bothered me. but > it was very > hectic with two cars on the show field. > weather? pennsylrainia? this was > about the best remembered year weather > wise. vehicle attendance was > impressive too! we are planning to be back next > year with the bugeye and a > saab (not certain which one)! > > chuck > It was great seeing those off the list > that stopped by. > Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy > rain and some > lightning nearby > Saturday made up for it to some extent. > Itbs > always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and > how much > of each > Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs > dwindling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well > attended. > But always great talking parts and cars and deals > Alan > _______________________________________________ From lbc77mg at gmail.com Tue May 24 09:12:59 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:12:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes In-Reply-To: References: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: Well, that wouldn't seem logical. Keep in mind that air wants to go up and fluid down. When a drip of fluid comes out of the line, a bubble of air usually would go in. I would think that would make things worse. All the air in the lines would have to go all the way up to the MC to bubble out the top. When you pump the pedal, you are forcing fresh fluid, that is hopefully air free, from the MC to the wheel cylinder, and the air and water filled fluid out the bleed screw. That is why it is important to not shake the bottle of brake fluid before pouring it in the MC. And most important if using sillycone brake fluid, which tends to trap a lot of very small bubbles. Treat new brake fluid gently. How'm I doing, Ed? Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Tom wrote: > Mechanic in Maine suggested open the bleeders and let gravity do the work. > Does that work, or does the master cylinder prevent that from working? > > Two weeks of rain? It seems like forever!! > > - Tom > > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 4:55 PM, wrote: > > > I just spent quite a while jacking up various wheels and bleeding the > > brakes of my Sprite. Used an EZ bleed and cleared some air and old fluid. > > I had good brake pedal pressure for about 30 seconds and now have > > practically nothing. I can get a little braking if I pump a few times, > > but it's dangerous at best.. > > I paid a shop to install a new slave cylinder last year and the system > > hasn't been the same since. At first the gears were grinding and I had > > them fix it. > > Do I now need to bleed the slave cylinder? If so, what's the easiest > > method to get at it. > > Thanks. > > Dick Byrne in NH (where it's been raining for two weeks) > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah3000me at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 24 09:27:15 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes In-Reply-To: References: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: > Well, that wouldn't seem logical. Keep in mind that air wants to go up and > fluid down. When a drip of fluid comes out of the line, a bubble of air > usually would go in. I would think that would make things worse. All the > air in the lines would have to go all the way up to the MC to bubble out the > top. Allen, Your contention would be correct if the lines actually went up all the way from the wheels to the MC. Since there are dips along the way, there will be air pockets that cannot go any further up without going down. David L From lbc77mg at gmail.com Tue May 24 09:27:42 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:27:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: <462425.83815.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <462425.83815.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: C'mon, Jay. It's not too bad for a rare factory prototype Bugeye WITH a boot lid. Eastwood has a spray that can instantly fix the rust. But it does need a battery and I think one of the tires is flat. Ever the optimist, Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jay wrote: > I think Fazdaboog has finally realized the value of his Bugeye. > > http://tinyurl.com/3jhx2xd > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From miniac7 at aol.com Tue May 24 09:29:11 2011 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:29:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <919161374.513738.1306244348097.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8CDE83E775BA186-7D4-9273@web-mmc-d10.sysops.aol.com> MIke...what's your question about VIR ? To which event are you referring? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini -----Original Message----- From: lotuspilot at frontier.com To: charles christ Cc: spridgets Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 9:39 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend Did any of the Saabistros ask how a Saab can be driving perfectly fine down a traight-stretch and turn over and spin in the middle of the road upside down on ts top. I will never forget that day at Summit Point Raceway. I was watching s the back-markers go through and all of a sudden I see this Saab do this rick. It is good to have you back on the list. I cannot believe that VIR got canned his year. What do you think happened there? Mike ---- Original Message ----- rom: "charles christ" o: "spridgets" ent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:19:42 AM ubject: Re: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend the show was very hectic on saturday for us. we arived friday night in he 67 2 stroke street saab and ended staying up untill 2:30an saturday orning ith a friend we race with up on the hill in our race railer. saturday morning e arived on the show field and we were converged pon by saabistas wanting to ee the '60 93f race car and about a thousand uestions folowed. as much as i ried to get away mary anne & i did not et to the swap meet until sunday orning. by then many vendors had left. unny what people abandon when they eave. in someone's discarded junk , i icked up 2 front spridget shocks and n upper trunion , along with a hrottle cable. yeah i brought all that stuff ome....we had a great time nd i'm still very sore and my neck is sun burned! central penn saab club ame here and towed our race car in the trailer out to arlisle and as of ast night returned the trailer home for us. our tow ehicle's trans needs o be rebuilt or we would have towed it. central penn aab club did a onderfull job with all their activities and meals. we missed gathering taurday for lunch with evryone. that bothered me. but t was very ectic with two cars on the show field. eather? pennsylrainia? this was bout the best remembered year weather ise. vehicle attendance was mpressive too! we are planning to be back next ear with the bugeye and a aab (not certain which one)! huck t was great seeing those off the list hat stopped by. eather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy ain and some ightning nearby aturday made up for it to some extent. tbs lways wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and ow much f each ondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs windling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well ttended. ut always great talking parts and cars and deals lan uggested annual donation $12.75 rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7 at aol.com From lbc77mg at gmail.com Tue May 24 09:31:55 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:31:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] brakes In-Reply-To: References: <969924746734ad0583da5c465248e263.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: Yep. Theoretically speaking, I would be correct, but in reality it won't work. I bet a lot of problems are caused by not tightening bleed screws correctly. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:27 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, that wouldn't seem logical. Keep in mind that air wants to go up > and > > fluid down. When a drip of fluid comes out of the line, a bubble of air > > usually would go in. I would think that would make things worse. All > the > > air in the lines would have to go all the way up to the MC to bubble out > the > > top. > > Allen, > Your contention would be correct if the lines actually went up all the > way from the wheels to the MC. Since there are dips along the way, > there will be air pockets that cannot go any further up without going > down. > David L From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 24 10:09:25 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:09:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A-series supercharger kits (Andy Webster) In-Reply-To: <50954.6576.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <50954.6576.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can get like new takeoff blowers many times. People upgrade their Mustangs and GT-40s to twin screws and low mileage takeoff Eaton Roots types hit the market. I wouldn't be afraid of a used or rebuilt blower. A new unit would probably almost double the price of the kit. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:13 AM, James Gruber wrote: > Note at the bottom of their web site, caveat emptor! > superchargers supplied in our kits and conversions are used items From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 24 11:25:13 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 Message-ID: <19ca9.6b887897.3b0d43f9@aol.com> Hi list, A lister need some encouragement about what a great engine the Ford Essex V6 is. Probably the 3 litre and after the composite timing gear has been swapped to a steel one. So, TVR, Scimiter, what else used it? The lister might also be looking for a Ford 5 speed box from a Ford Merkur - that's the cologne V6 but with the long input shaft version of the type 9 box that was used on the Ford V6s. Unless of course anyone has the rarer Ford box with overdrive used on the V6. Anyone got a sound clip or a youtube clip of the Essex V6 Weslake-Monza 1330 From peter at nosimport.com Tue May 24 11:35:42 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 12:35:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Attn...Manager Or Owner (Auto Repair) Message-ID: <201105241035816.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> New attempted scam... a derivation on an old theme... >Hello. >how are you doing ? do you repair and service of truck gmc truck,In >regards to my wife 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 that needs service and repair. >The truck is presently in NJ my former home and my wife that owns >the truck lives here in the State, we need to tow it back home here >for service and repair ,its just giving bad sound,strange smoke and >not moving anymore if you can be able to handly the truck here is >the VIN:1GTEC14X37Z609339, there is no warranty& insurance involved, >am paying personally for the repair, also the towing guy will have >it drop to your shop for the repair by next week monday gwt back to >me with your address and what type of credit card do you accepts for >means of payment. > > > >Please Advise. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue May 24 11:39:19 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:39:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 In-Reply-To: <19ca9.6b887897.3b0d43f9@aol.com> References: <19ca9.6b887897.3b0d43f9@aol.com> Message-ID: <83110F62C3984959B91444E99349D3B2@spider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_(UK) (not being a Ford man myself) ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:25 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 Hi list, A lister need some encouragement about what a great engine the Ford Essex V6 is. Probably the 3 litre and after the composite timing gear has been swapped to a steel one. So, TVR, Scimiter, what else used it? The lister might also be looking for a Ford 5 speed box from a Ford Merkur - that's the cologne V6 but with the long input shaft version of the type 9 box that was used on the Ford V6s. Unless of course anyone has the rarer Ford box with overdrive used on the V6. Anyone got a sound clip or a youtube clip of the Essex V6 Weslake-Monza 1330 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 24 11:53:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 In-Reply-To: <812965951.513401.1306259512920.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <744827004.513424.1306259589082.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> On the other hand, there is also a US made "Essex Six" - Essex was owned by the Hudson company. There is an 'Essex Super 6' parked five doors down from my house. I believe it is a straight six and also was the first car to implement 'idiot' lights !! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex(automobile) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_(UK) (not being a Ford man myself) ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 Hi list, A lister need some encouragement about what a great engine the Ford Essex V6 is. Probably the 3 litre and after the composite timing gear has been swapped to a steel one. From lists at dinospider.com Tue May 24 12:04:20 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:04:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Attn...Manager Or Owner (Auto Repair) In-Reply-To: <201105241035816.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105241035816.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4DDBF324.60005@dinospider.com> Ok, I am dumb here, I don't see how this one works. I have NO doubt its a scam just based on the grammar and spelling, I know its a scam but how do they make money ? Are they expecting the shop to pay the tow truck driver ? how will they make money on this one ? especially when they say they will pay with Credit Card, that should be verifiable first somehow as a valid non-stolen card right ? mike On 05/24/2011 10:35 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > New attempted scam... a derivation on an old theme... > > >> Hello. >> how are you doing ? do you repair and service of truck gmc truck,In >> regards to my wife 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 that needs service and repair. >> The truck is presently in NJ my former home and my wife that owns >> the truck lives here in the State, we need to tow it back home here >> for service and repair ,its just giving bad sound,strange smoke and >> not moving anymore if you can be able to handly the truck here is the >> VIN:1GTEC14X37Z609339, there is no warranty& insurance involved, am >> paying personally for the repair, also the towing guy will have it >> drop to your shop for the repair by next week monday gwt back to me >> with your address and what type of credit card do you accepts for >> means of payment. >> >> >> >> Please Advise. From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue May 24 12:13:53 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:13:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving to track in England in race form Message-ID: <9c4a79$c9l2bl@email.mtu.edu> I was re-reading an old issue of British Car magazine (Page 11, October 1995) and spotted this paragraph which pertains to driving to the track with racing decals, etc. "In his hilarious autobiography, "Touch Wood!," Duncan Hamilton, who won Le Mans in 1953, recalls driving a D-type from Coventry to Surrey after a heavy fall of snow; "Many sports-racing cars would be undriveable under such conditions," he pointed out. "No one has ever had to take a Jaguar to a race on a transporter." Lofty England - the team manager who became Jaguar's chief executive "always said that if you cannot drive a car on the road it will never be reliable in a race." By Phil Llewellin. So presumably in the old days the "war paint" was applied at the track and then removed for the drive home - or the rules have changed since 1953. It would be interesting to know why this was OK in the old days and frowned upon today. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue May 24 12:26:23 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:26:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 In-Reply-To: <744827004.513424.1306259589082.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <812965951.513401.1306259512920.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <744827004.513424.1306259589082.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8F7B9FCC412D46E4A95DFEC9C4BF25D5@spider> >From http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2011/02/01/hmn_opinion2.html "But among independent greats, one of the standouts is Hudson, which introduced many minor automotive "firsts" like instrument panel warning lamps (AKA "idiot lights"), ...." ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:53 AM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 On the other hand, there is also a US made "Essex Six" - Essex was owned by the Hudson company. There is an 'Essex Super 6' parked five doors down from my house. I believe it is a straight six and also was the first car to implement 'idiot' lights !! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex(automobile) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Essex_V6_engine_(UK) (not being a Ford man myself) ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 Hi list, A lister need some encouragement about what a great engine the Ford Essex V6 is. Probably the 3 litre and after the composite timing gear has been swapped to a steel one. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 24 12:35:47 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 18:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Attn...Manager Or Owner (Auto Repair) In-Reply-To: <4DDBF324.60005@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <503105954.513944.1306262147897.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I agree that it's extremely likely to be a scam. And, having recently been the victim of credit card fraud, I can say that the credit card companys' do not 'flag' a transaction unless it exceeds $500. In my case, there was a charge of $495.20 from Israel which had nothing to do with me! The CC company told me that this was a common amount used by scammers to "get under our radar". The card has been frozen and the charge disputed but it still appears on my credit report. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour" how will they make money on this one ? especially when they say they will pay with Credit Card, that should be verifiable first somehow as a valid non-stolen card right ? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 24 12:39:59 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Driving to track in England in race form Message-ID: <7778.9defa01.3b0d557f@aol.com> There was a time when it really was a type of paint. At some vintage hill-climb meetings today there is a man at the meeting who will paint the number on your racing car. The 'paint' washes off, not least because there's no guarantee you'll get to have the same number when you next compete with the car. There was also a time when in the UK there was no national speed limit on the motorways. The story goes that AC ran a Cobra down the M1 Motorway at a speed close to 200mph. The speed caused a sensation in the British press, questions were asked in the Houses of Parliament and a 'trial' or 'temporary measure' of a 70mph speed limit was imposed on motorways (the limit was already 60mph elsewhere) and we've had a 70mph limit ever since. It seems that times change and attitudes and habits change but the 70mph speed limit is here to stay. As far as racing D -types go I think at least one car was wrecked by a mechanic driving it to a race. I think the crash was in France - I bet that made Jaguar sit up and think about transporters. Then there was the time with Alfred Owen who owned Rubery Owen and BRM racing burned out the clutch by slipping it too much when driving the racing car to the circuit - this may have been Spa. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 24/05/2011 19:19:22 GMT Daylight Time, thcollin at mtu.edu writes: I was re-reading an old issue of British Car magazine (Page 11, October 1995) and spotted this paragraph which pertains to driving to the track with racing decals, etc. "In his hilarious autobiography, "Touch Wood!," Duncan Hamilton, who won Le Mans in 1953, recalls driving a D-type from Coventry to Surrey after a heavy fall of snow; "Many sports-racing cars would be undriveable under such conditions," he pointed out. "No one has ever had to take a Jaguar to a race on a transporter." Lofty England - the team manager who became Jaguar's chief executive "always said that if you cannot drive a car on the road it will never be reliable in a race." By Phil Llewellin. So presumably in the old days the "war paint" was applied at the track and then removed for the drive home - or the rules have changed since 1953. It would be interesting to know why this was OK in the old days and frowned upon today. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From lbc77mg at gmail.com Tue May 24 12:56:22 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:56:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <57efe.592d73d0.3b0c25d4@aol.com> References: <57efe.592d73d0.3b0c25d4@aol.com> Message-ID: Actually, all of the cars in the USA are race cars. The numbers are optional on the street. The biggest auto organization is AAA, and they also provide towing and battery jumps, although they may not be the best choice for a positive earth vehicle. There are a few 2CVs around that are probably no longer competitive. Allen Hefner ;-) Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > No worries Mike. > > In the USA, from what I understand, you have the NHRA for drag racing, the > SCCA for circuit racing, IMSA? for sports prototypes and CART? for single > seaters. > > Here in the UK we have the MSA for drag racing, circuit racing for vintage > cars through to moderns, sports prototypes and single seaters up to F1. > > Yep, one sanctioning body that controls the lot. > > England is a small country that doesn't tolerate racing numbers on road > cars to the extent no self respecting enthusiast would even think of it. > It's a cultural difference I hadn't realised wasn't universal and I have > been > to the USA on 3 occasions. Remember it wasn't that long ago a man with a > red flag had to walk in front of an automobile. > > _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive_Acts_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive_Acts) > > Seems like some states had a similar rule? > > Regards > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 21/05/2011 04:36:54 GMT Daylight Time, > lotuspilot at frontier.com writes: > > Please do not take me so seriously. I emailed simply for something to do. > I understand that everyone views things differently. > > I will say that I am too much American to ever enjoy England ;^)). > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 24 13:07:53 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:07:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: References: <57efe.592d73d0.3b0c25d4@aol.com> Message-ID: > Actually, all of the cars in the USA are race cars. The numbers are > optional on the street. The biggest auto organization is AAA, and they also > provide towing and battery jumps, although they may not be the best choice > for a positive earth vehicle. Or were you thinking of Italy? ;-) I KNOW that most of the Ford Tauruses out there think they are entered in the slow race... David L From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue May 24 13:38:31 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 19:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1818378936.2192817.1306265911248.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> An old friend used to run his Lotus Formula Junior through the neighborhood to fine tune it prior to a race. Only one neighbor consistently had fits. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:07:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway > Actually, all of the cars in the USA are race cars. The numbers are > optional on the street. The biggest auto organization is AAA, and they also > provide towing and battery jumps, although they may not be the best choice > for a positive earth vehicle. Or were you thinking of Italy? ;-) I KNOW that most of the Ford Tauruses out there think they are entered in the slow race... David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue May 24 14:37:04 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:37:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving to track in England in race form In-Reply-To: <7778.9defa01.3b0d557f@aol.com> References: <7778.9defa01.3b0d557f@aol.com> Message-ID: <9c4a79$c9mu19@email.mtu.edu> Isn't history interesting!! At 02:39 PM 5/24/2011, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: >There was a time when it really was a type of paint. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 24 14:44:10 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:44:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing cars displaying numbers on the public highway In-Reply-To: <1818378936.2192817.1306265911248.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20110524204410.UYXL2.5523.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> My dad and his brother built drag cars in the late 50's. Then in the early 70's when I got old enough I worked in his garage along with another employee about my age. We found an old 1957 Chevy body and bought it, then we bought a junked 350 V8, and so on. We managed to build a running car from junked or scrounged parts. It became a 350 V8, 4-speed, 4.11 rear end gears, headers, FI heads, mechanical lifter cam, 3x2 intake. The inside was completely gutted and some of the outside, so it was pretty light. Our shop was open Saturday mornings until noon, then when we officially quit work we would pull our car into the shop and work on it. We had been telling my dad that the rear end needed traction bars. So we were working on it on a Sat. afternoon and my dad got into it and took off down the road in front of the shop. This was a narrow 2-lane road that went immediately through a group of houses. In front of the shop the tires left a pair of long dashed lines on the pavement, proving that we did indeed need traction bars. The justice of the peace lived 1 block down from the shop and would usually sit on his front porch. He didn't say a word when my dad went by at wide open throttle. > An old friend used to run his Lotus Formula Junior through the neighborhood to fine tune it prior to a race. Only one neighbor consistently had fits. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue May 24 15:54:46 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:54:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paris Driving Message-ID: Nope. . didn't drive in Paris or France. . just got miserably lost one night walking back from a Paris jazz club . . got back after 1 AM. And although hats off to my wife for being a big help on the trip . . she was determined that night to walk opposite the direction of our hotel room . . determined. So rather than argue about it I told her, "Ok, we will walk your direction until you finally realize that we are going the wrong way." That was a mistake as it led to a miserable lost situation until we found a French police officer who, able to speak clear English and knowing the streets, was able to steer us back to the right direction. The Paris streets after midnight, some of them, kind of scary. I actually did not see any "Tin Snails" as they have been called. The majority of the cars were not that old either. We did see a ton of motor scooters, some with bigger bore engines and many had a cover, attached to the front that would flip over the rider's legs for warmth. Also, several three wheeled scooters with the two small wheels in the front and are designed to allow the thing to lean in the corners . . very popular over there. More crotch rockets in the UK shooting around London traffic. A strange thing for me was seeing several white Honda Gold WIngs, latter year models being used as single person taxi's just outside of the area where you get to street level in Paris after getting off the bullet train. We only saw a very few LBC's of our interest in England . . all being Mini's except for one Morris Minor. I did spot a couple or so newer "MG's" . . I forget where they are made these days? India or China or they have Chinese engines, something like that. . I forget? Kirk From lists at dinospider.com Tue May 24 16:50:14 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paris Driving In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDC3626.7010400@dinospider.com> 2 years ago my then 18 year old daughter got lost in Paris. She had gone to a school event and then stayed with some friends until after the Metro closed (she thought it closed later), she thought she could take the bus to her hotel but again it was done for the night. There is some limited bus system that runs after midnight in Paris so she called us (S. Calif.) on her cell phone in near tears as she was not comfortable on the streets of Paris at 1:30AM and VERY LOST. My wife and I used Google maps and streetview to figure out where she was exactly and found the next bus stop quite a ways away and directed her on the phone, she got to some very dark area that she absolutely did not want to walk through and had to figure out a round about way. Got to where the bus stop is and she could not see/find it, again Google streetview to tell her to look behind those 2 trees and finally got on the bus which took her within 3 or 4 blocks of her hotel. She was pretty scared and I guess we were too, but now we laugh uncontrollably when we think about that 1 hour 9 minutes on the cell phone with google maps and streetview walking her home. Ok, I only laugh until I remember that cell phone bill :) So my daughter would agree with you that some streets after midnight in Paris are awfully scary. mike On 05/24/2011 02:54 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Nope. . didn't drive in Paris or France. . just got miserably lost one > night walking back from a Paris jazz club . . got back after 1 AM. And > although hats off to my wife for being a big help on the trip . . she was > determined that night to walk opposite the direction of our hotel room . . > determined. So rather than argue about it I told her, "Ok, we will walk > your direction until you finally realize that we are going the wrong way." > That was a mistake as it led to a miserable lost situation until we found a > French police officer who, able to speak clear English and knowing the > streets, was able to steer us back to the right direction. The Paris > streets after midnight, some of them, kind of scary. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 24 18:55:58 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:55:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Essex V6 In-Reply-To: <19ca9.6b887897.3b0d43f9@aol.com> Message-ID: > Ford Essex > V6 I think that was a Mercury Capri over here, but that's all I know. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 25 04:51:01 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 06:51:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: References: <462425.83815.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually this is the first time he has gotten a bid, it will be interesting to see it restored. Now this is the first time he has shown a shot from the inside of the boot from that angle. I do not see a weld on that lip therefore it could possibly be a factory lip that was stamped, it is NOT a "NorCal" kit. Frank had that BE photo in his garage since before I meet him. I think he said conversations with others indicated it was the real deal. I'll send it to friends in the UK for more info. I would like to see it restored but it will be worthless soon as it continues to rust away. Lin On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > C'mon, Jay. It's not too bad for a rare factory prototype Bugeye WITH a > boot lid. Eastwood has a spray that can instantly fix the rust. But it > does need a battery and I think one of the tires is flat. > > Ever the optimist, > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jay wrote: > > > I think Fazdaboog has finally realized the value of his Bugeye. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/3jhx2xd > > > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From clarici at verizon.net Wed May 25 07:03:42 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 09:03:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: References: <462425.83815.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4569F2E9-5907-4849-AEF8-2A57ECC12EF4@verizon.net> this car is still around. My father probably would have bought it just because. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Actually this is the first time he has gotten a bid, it will be interesting > to see it restored. Now this is the first time he has shown a shot from the > inside of the boot from that angle. I do not see a weld on that lip > therefore it could possibly be a factory lip that was stamped, it is NOT a > "NorCal" kit. Frank had that BE photo in his garage since before I meet him. > I think he said conversations with others indicated it was the real deal. > I'll send it to friends in the UK for more info. > > I would like to see it restored but it will be worthless soon as it > continues to rust away. > Lin > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> C'mon, Jay. It's not too bad for a rare factory prototype Bugeye WITH a >> boot lid. Eastwood has a spray that can instantly fix the rust. But it >> does need a battery and I think one of the tires is flat. >> >> Ever the optimist, >> >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA >> >> *Current:* >> 2006 Chebbie >> *Former:* >> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >> 1964 VW Type I >> 1967 VW Type II >> 1967 Rover 2000TC >> 1977 MG Midget >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jay wrote: >> >>> I think Fazdaboog has finally realized the value of his Bugeye. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/3jhx2xd >>> >>> jay fishbein >>> wallingford, ct >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 25 09:22:06 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 15:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <804771425.525148.1306336263061.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Last year I had to use E-10 (15?) fuel in my '65 Spridget as ethanol-free gasoline was not yet available in my area. For whatever reason Winter came and I forgot to use Stabil and run the motor like I usually do! So... this week the temp went above the 50's and I went to start the Sprite (been working on the Midget and Minor) and it would not start -- eventually I found I had fuel at the fuel filter but dry carb throats! After much aggravation (using some choice words!), I found that:- 1) both carb float needles were corroded and jammed shut. 2) Both carb needles were corroded with what looked like green crystals on the surface - very rough, felt like a nail file! 3) the front piston was stuck in the chamber. Two days work - dissassembling, careful cleaning and refitting has the motor running (on bit the rough side) - lots of smoke! I'm guessing I'll have to do the same for the fuel pump :( Thank goodness I can now get ethanol-free gas! Would I get some benefit by running some injector cleaner through the system?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 25 09:38:42 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 10:38:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <804771425.525148.1306336263061.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Yes, ethanol sucks. It seems to me like those rubber hoses that used to feed weedeaters and outboard motors worked fine until ethanol came around. From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed May 25 09:45:04 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 10:45:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: The only answer is clean all including the tank. Yea I know, the tank. Then never again put corn oil in your engine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:22 AM Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? > Last year I had to use E-10 (15?) fuel in my '65 Spridget as ethanol-free > gasoline was not yet available in my area. > For whatever reason Winter came and I forgot to use Stabil and run the > motor like I usually do! > So... this week the temp went above the 50's and I went to start the > Sprite (been working on the Midget and Minor) and it would not start -- > eventually I found I had fuel at the fuel filter but dry carb throats! > > After much aggravation (using some choice words!), I found that:- > 1) both carb float needles were corroded and jammed shut. > 2) Both carb needles were corroded with what looked like green crystals on > the surface - very rough, felt like a nail file! > 3) the front piston was stuck in the chamber. > > Two days work - dissassembling, careful cleaning and refitting has the > motor running (on bit the rough side) - lots of smoke! > > I'm guessing I'll have to do the same for the fuel pump :( > > Thank goodness I can now get ethanol-free gas! > > Would I get some benefit by running some injector cleaner through the > system?? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3659 - Release Date: 05/25/11 From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 25 09:57:05 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 10:57:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: It irritates me that the government practically mandates it, and at the same time makes auto makers improve fuel mileage. I suppose we the people are subsidizing the crap, too. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 25 11:26:14 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:26:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: It is called a very powerful farm lobby. Not only do they force the use of ethanol, but they also restrict cheaper ethanol imports from Brazil that can make the stuff at 1/2 the price using sugar cane. The final killer is due to the use of ethanol form corn, feed stock prices have gone up making our food more expensive. Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. Steve On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, derf wrote: > It irritates me that the government practically mandates it, and at > the same time makes auto makers improve fuel mileage. > I suppose we the people are subsidizing the crap, too. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From ah3000me at gmail.com Wed May 25 11:47:29 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:47:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Write your reps in DC. They're all available via e-mail, and their staff actually reads and replies to them if you include your home mailing address. The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer cars. If you don't write your reps in the House & Senate, it's only going to get worse. - Tom On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > It is called a very powerful farm lobby. Not only do they force the use of > ethanol, but they also restrict cheaper ethanol imports from Brazil that > can > make the stuff at 1/2 the price using sugar cane. The final killer is due > to the use of ethanol form corn, feed stock prices have gone up making our > food more expensive. > > Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. > > Steve > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, derf wrote: > > > It irritates me that the government practically mandates it, and at > > the same time makes auto makers improve fuel mileage. > > I suppose we the people are subsidizing the crap, too. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah3000me at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 25 12:05:20 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:05:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: <4569F2E9-5907-4849-AEF8-2A57ECC12EF4@verizon.net> References: <462425.83815.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4569F2E9-5907-4849-AEF8-2A57ECC12EF4@verizon.net> Message-ID: Good to hear that statement Frankie : ) I really wish he would have bought it. Lin On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote: > this car is still around. My father probably would have bought it just > because. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 25, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > > > Actually this is the first time he has gotten a bid, it will be > interesting > > to see it restored. Now this is the first time he has shown a shot from > the > > inside of the boot from that angle. I do not see a weld on that lip > > therefore it could possibly be a factory lip that was stamped, it is NOT > a > > "NorCal" kit. Frank had that BE photo in his garage since before I meet > him. > > I think he said conversations with others indicated it was the real deal. > > I'll send it to friends in the UK for more info. > > > > I would like to see it restored but it will be worthless soon as it > > continues to rust away. > > Lin > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Allen Hefner > wrote: > > > >> C'mon, Jay. It's not too bad for a rare factory prototype Bugeye WITH a > >> boot lid. Eastwood has a spray that can instantly fix the rust. But it > >> does need a battery and I think one of the tires is flat. > >> > >> Ever the optimist, > >> > >> Allen Hefner > >> Norristown, PA > >> > >> *Current:* > >> 2006 Chebbie > >> *Former:* > >> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > >> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > >> 1964 VW Type I > >> 1967 VW Type II > >> 1967 Rover 2000TC > >> 1977 MG Midget > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jay wrote: > >> > >>> I think Fazdaboog has finally realized the value of his Bugeye. > >>> > >>> http://tinyurl.com/3jhx2xd > >>> > >>> jay fishbein > >>> wallingford, ct > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 25 12:11:55 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:11:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <80364AD1BA2746AFBFF047D4147AB8B4@Home> > Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. Facts are seldom at issue in bureaucracies and politics, only appearances. Michael Rowe From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 25 12:20:46 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:20:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Cool_Speedwell_in_one_of_my_favorite_c?= =?iso-8859-1?q?olours_only_=A320=2C000_=3A_=29?= Message-ID: List, Reminds me of Frank's, sort of like the sister Speedwell : ) Main site: http://www.fernhurst-tvr.co.uk/ Speedwell: http://217.118.128.96/fernhurst/notvrfrm.html Lin From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 25 12:33:48 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <80364AD1BA2746AFBFF047D4147AB8B4@Home> References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <80364AD1BA2746AFBFF047D4147AB8B4@Home> Message-ID: <523068.89208.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> And don't forget "Money". jay ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe > Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. Facts are seldom at issue in bureaucracies and politics, only appearances. From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 25 12:44:45 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Factory Mk II Tonneau for Sale $25.00 Message-ID: <342489.2780.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Fellow Cowboys and Cowgirls, I take no pride in sending this message other than to offer one of you a good deal on a factory tonneau. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120726689252 I have a no reserve opening bid of $25.00 on this auction and the only thing wrong with this tonneau is that it is stained and dirty. The zipper works fine and there are no rips or tears. A respray with vinyl paint/dye would make this a really nice user tonneau. Sorry for the self-promotion but someone should take advantage of this deal. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 25 12:49:37 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Cool_Speedwell_in_one_of_my_favorite_c?= =?iso-8859-1?q?olours_only_=A320=2C000_=3A_=29?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <256326.4980.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The way I read that, it is a replica. And enlarging the engine bay pic, not only confirms that, but also shows that it was not very well done either. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 2:20:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Speedwell in one of my favorite colours only #20,000 : ) List, Reminds me of Frank's, sort of like the sister Speedwell : ) Main site: http://www.fernhurst-tvr.co.uk/ Speedwell: http://217.118.128.96/fernhurst/notvrfrm.html Lin From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed May 25 13:57:27 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 12:57:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes Message-ID: I had a perplexing problem with my brakes. It turned out that although the cup like seal in the brake side felt flexible and looked to be alright, that it was not holding pressure. I discovered this when I changed it out with the clutch side and then lost pressure to the clutch (the brakes then began to work fine). A lesson learned for me. . that a seal can look to be alright, but it can also go bad and not hold pressure. I replaced it with a new one a couple of years ago and it has all been working fine since. I have only used the Gunson for bleeding . . and I love the thing. Makes for quick work with one person bleeding the brakes as opposed to getting the wife out of the house to do a two person job. Great invention. (It;s always too much of a hassle to get the wife out of the house into the garage to do anything. . yeah she'll be there in a minute which turns to 15 minutes while I am still waiting). I also have a Mity Vac that was worthless for me . . must have been because I was not using it correctly? But the Gunson really does the job . . and does so very quickly. Kirk 59 1275 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 25 14:07:06 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 15:07:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: There is an additional problem here.... I have been trying to warn the Spridget community about this for several years. I first ran into the problem with my 1989 K100 BMW motorcycle which has fuel injection and the fuel pump inside the fuel tank. Ethanol in fuel is hygroscopic. It sucks up moisture turning to a lump of Jello like gunk which clogs fuel lines, tanks, filters, pumps, carbs, injectors and injection rails on older vehicles. When those lumps dry over the winter you get the crystals and corrosion described. Additionally, the ethanol will dissolve many types of pre-ethanol requirement rubber tubes, hoses and gaskets causing leaks, fuel squirts all over everything and shoving of the dissolving rubber buts through carbs, filters, pumps and injectors...etc. Finally (and maybe worst of all), it is impossible to tell by checking the pump which fuel has ethanol in it and how much. The pumps are supposed to be marked, but they rarely are and the EPA doesn't often enforce this mandate. What this means is that it is up to you to determine if the fuel you are getting is dangerous to your vehicle or not. The only way to do this is to purchase a test kit and text the fuel at the pump before filling your tank. The BMW motorcycle community has been burning up the email pages of our congress critters and senate flubs for about a year now without getting much response. It would help if car hobbyists joined the party. The more people who *itch, the better the chance of getting something done about (read: TO) the EPA before they bankrupt us all!! That agency has become its own watchdog and its own government. It is destroying a lot more things in our country than just our vehicles!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsSQSuCiUjE http://www.fuel-testers.com/order.html Cheers!! Jim P.S. When are we gonna tackle the lack of ZDDP in lubricants for flat tappet engines?? On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > It is called a very powerful farm lobby. Not only do they force the use of > ethanol, but they also restrict cheaper ethanol imports from Brazil that > can > make the stuff at 1/2 the price using sugar cane. The final killer is due > to the use of ethanol form corn, feed stock prices have gone up making our > food more expensive. > > Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. > > Steve > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, derf wrote: > > > It irritates me that the government practically mandates it, and at > > the same time makes auto makers improve fuel mileage. > > I suppose we the people are subsidizing the crap, too. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 25 14:59:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 15:59:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: References: <462425.83815.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4569F2E9-5907-4849-AEF8-2A57ECC12EF4@verizon.net> Message-ID: I thought it was junk until I saw the inside the boot pics. It looks factory to me. I'm no expert but if there is no seam then it is either factory or someone went to way too much trouble to make it look that way. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 25 15:00:58 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: <3a317.5c30fb75.3b0ec80a@aol.com> I just bought some and added it to the oil. For every future oil change I'll do the same. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 25/05/2011 21:12:06 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: P.S. When are we gonna tackle the lack of ZDDP in lubricants for flat tappet engines?? From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 25 15:27:53 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 21:27:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <816440718.531843.1306358873747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I usually keep quiet on these "how much is it worth" threads because I've overpaid and bought junk too many times... But I can't help thinking that there's got to be more than $500 worth of parts in that car, Yes? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 25 15:45:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 16:45:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: <816440718.531843.1306358873747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <816440718.531843.1306358873747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: The value in that car is the factory trunk lid. Otherwise it would be for the crusher. There may be a few usable parts, but non compare to the body if the trunk lid is factory. From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 25 15:52:35 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:52:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <3a317.5c30fb75.3b0ec80a@aol.com> References: <3a317.5c30fb75.3b0ec80a@aol.com> Message-ID: <20DF583BDA314EBD8E2800870B62F657@Home> >I just bought some and added it to the oil. For every future oil change > I'll do the same I have been doing the same ever since the discussion of about a year ago. I buy small bottles online and pour one in at each oil change - no fuss, no muss. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 25 15:53:09 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: <816440718.531843.1306358873747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <816440718.531843.1306358873747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <189880.26268.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Yes, there are $500 worth of parts on that car and that's what it is, a parts car. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS I usually keep quiet on these "how much is it worth" threads because I've overpaid and bought junk too many times... But I can't help thinking that there's got to be more than $500 worth of parts in that car, Yes? From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed May 25 16:17:20 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:17:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDD7FF0.1030002@sbcglobal.net> Steve, I agree completely that the ethanol "requirement" is all about politics and special interest groups. These are the same folks that complain about welfare for the most vulnerable in society while reaping huge subsidies (another word for welfare.) Dave, What in the world makes you think ethanol is to blame for your problems? You readily admit that you did not prepare the car for winter storage. What is it about ethanol that causes green crystals? We've had ten percent ethanol is all our gas here in the midwest for, perhaps, 30 years and all that old rubber that was incompatible with alcohol was replaced long, long ago. E10 is harmless. Modern fuels have a short shelf life and are seasonally formulated. If you stabilize the fuel before storage, you'll be fine. Lee On 5/25/2011 1:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:26:14 -0400 > From: Steven Guterman > To: derf > Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It is called a very powerful farm lobby. Not only do they force the use of > ethanol, but they also restrict cheaper ethanol imports from Brazil that can > make the stuff at 1/2 the price using sugar cane. The final killer is due > to the use of ethanol form corn, feed stock prices have gone up making our > food more expensive. > > Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. > > Steve > ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 15:22:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Dave KK7SS To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root at cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Last year I had to use E-10 (15?) fuel in my '65 Spridget as ethanol-free gasoline was not yet available in my area. For whatever reason Winter came and I forgot to use Stabil and run the motor like I usually do! So... this week the temp went above the 50's and I went to start the Sprite (been working on the Midget and Minor) and it would not start -- eventually I found I had fuel at the fuel filter but dry carb throats! After much aggravation (using some choice words!), I found that:- 1) both carb float needles were corroded and jammed shut. 2) Both carb needles were corroded with what looked like green crystals on the surface - very rough, felt like a nail file! 3) the front piston was stuck in the chamber. Two days work - dissassembling, careful cleaning and refitting has the motor running (on bit the rough side) - lots of smoke! I'm guessing I'll have to do the same for the fuel pump :( Thank goodness I can now get ethanol-free gas! Would I get some benefit by running some injector cleaner through the system?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 25 16:29:40 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 15:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Smiths Instrument Reference Website Message-ID: <883788.93113.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Does anyone have the link to the website to cross-reference Smiths gauges? And, for my second question, if you have it, would you forward me the link? TIA, jay fishbein wallingford, ct From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed May 25 16:52:25 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:52:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I run diesel engine oil in my Sprite, it has enough ZDDP in it. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > P.S. When are we gonna tackle the lack of ZDDP in lubricants for flat > tappet > engines?? > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 25 17:12:40 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:12:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Brad... You still have to watch the formulations even in diesel oils. For example... up until a few months ago, Shell diesel Rotella T 40 used to have the proper 1200 ppm of ZDDP.. Now it has been changed and has only about 80 ppm of ZDDP. They have also introduced diesel Rotella T1 40 which ain't the good stuff. Currently only the diesel Rotella 10W-40 has 1200 ppm of ZDDP. You gotta watch them like a hawk!! @Lee... Here's some light (;-) reading for you on the impacts of E-10 and above in our fuel systems. Please remember - our fuel systems are NOT sealed systems. Water vapor can and does get into them whereupon phase separation occurs. You be the judge. I'm testing my fuel - way too many friends overhauling their BMW K bikes due to gel ethanol in the fuel system. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ethanol+fuel+phase+separation&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart Cheers! Jim On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I run diesel engine oil in my Sprite, it has enough ZDDP in it. > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> >> P.S. When are we gonna tackle the lack of ZDDP in lubricants for flat >> tappet >> engines?? >> >> > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 25 17:59:06 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <1590237539.533409.1306367483832.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <545691487.533509.1306367946230.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Lee, Ethanol is miscible with water!! Water in your vehicle (except for cooling) is not generally considered to be a good thing! It is also a general purpose industrial and medical solvent The Clean Fuels Report comparison of fuel emissions shows that ethanol exhaust generates 2.14 times as much ozone as does gasoline exhaust. When this is added into the custom Localised Pollution Index (LPI) of The Clean Fuels Report the local pollution (pollution that contributes to smog) is 1.7 on a scale where gasoline is 1.0 and higher numbers signify greater pollution. Ethanol is a central nervous system depressant and has significant psychoactive effects in sublethal doses Energy content: E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline) 33.2 MJ/Kg for 105 Octane Gasohol (90% gasoline + 10% ethanol) 47.1 for 93/94 Octane Regular gasoline 44.4 MJ/Kg for 91 Octane And my minor is using *very* rubber... perishing but still there!! I can make my own mind up... so I buy Ethanol-Free Gas -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Fox" We've had ten percent ethanol is all our gas here in the midwest for, perhaps, 30 years and all that old rubber that was incompatible with alcohol was replaced long, long ago. E10 is harmless. Modern fuels have a short shelf life and are seasonally formulated. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 25 18:12:13 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:12:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer cars. What are the rest of us supposed to do? My newest vehicle is a 2000. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 25 18:20:14 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:20:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <545691487.533509.1306367946230.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: There are much better uses for corn alcohol. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed May 25 18:27:44 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 19:27:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The ZDDP scheme didn't get enough old cars off the road, so this is phase II On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer > cars. > What are the rest of us supposed to do? My newest vehicle is a 2000. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed May 25 18:30:08 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 00:30:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: <189880.26268.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <816440718.531843.1306358873747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><189880.26268.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, but a parts car with $500 of usable parts is worth much less than $500. Much much less. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:53:09 To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. Yes, there are $500 worth of parts on that car and that's what it is, a parts car. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS I usually keep quiet on these "how much is it worth" threads because I've overpaid and bought junk too many times... But I can't help thinking that there's got to be more than $500 worth of parts in that car, Yes? _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed May 25 18:50:27 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:50:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://pure-gas.org/ ====================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:12 PM To: Tom; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? > The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer cars. What are the rest of us supposed to do? My newest vehicle is a 2000. _______________________________________________ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 25 18:53:24 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <768481.66051.qm@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> With all the Sprite literature out there, I don't recall any period references to a boot lid prototype. If this was a Healey works job from the Cape, why would it have made its way to the U.S. rather than remaining in the U.K? It does look like something professionally done and I wonder if it was something commissioned by Hambro in the U.S.? It really is a mystery, but even if it's a rare factory modification, it sure screws up the lines of the Bugeye boot and wouldn't be something I'd pay a premium for. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/25/11, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] $1,500 lbs of Rust for $500. To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "Spridgets list" Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 4:59 PM I thought it was junk until I saw the inside the boot pics. It looks factory to me. I'm no expert but if there is no seam then it is either factory or someone went to way too much trouble to make it look that way. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed May 25 19:00:58 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:00:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: <19457783.1306371658350.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >> The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer cars. >What are the rest of us supposed to do? My newest vehicle is a 2000. Buy a new model "Bureaucrat" from General Motors. It will also stimulate the economy! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed May 25 19:02:55 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Cool_Speedwell_in_one_of_my_favorite_c?= =?iso-8859-1?q?olours_only_=A320=2C000_=3A_=29?= In-Reply-To: <256326.4980.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <363021.73798.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Agreed. Not a Speedwell, but probably a solid US MkI converted with Archer's Garage Speedwell parts. Still enough, a wonderful color and depending on the state of tune of the 948, possibly worth the price. Panel fit isn't optimal and I think its best value would be based on how you could slot it in as a vintage racer on either side of the pond. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Jay wrote: From: Jay Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool Speedwell in one of my favorite colours only #20,000 : ) To: "Spridgets" Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 2:49 PM The way I read that, it is a replica. And enlarging the engine bay pic, not only confirms that, but also shows that it was not very well done either. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 2:20:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Speedwell in one of my favorite colours only #20,000 : ) List, Reminds me of Frank's, sort of like the sister Speedwell : ) Main site: http://www.fernhurst-tvr.co.uk/ Speedwell: From jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au Wed May 25 19:15:16 2011 From: jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au (jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:15:16 +1000 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in Portland OR? Message-ID: <17914.1306372516@hotkey.net.au> G'day all, B Trying to buyB a couple ofB parts from Northwest Import Parts, unfortunately having some difficulties because they will not ship overseas. B Anyone live close to them who may be able to pick up and forward to me? This is their address: Northwest Import Parts 10042 SW Balmer Portland, OR 97219 USA B If someone can help me out please contact me off-list. B Cheers Jeff. From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 25 19:24:40 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 01:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <19457783.1306371658350.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <797536157.534545.1306373080331.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I can think of some very imaginative and extremely innovative ways to "stimulate" those idiots in Washington DC. But I suppose I'll just have to stay with trying to vote them out ... sigh ! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: b-evans at earthlink.net It will also stimulate the economy! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 25 20:32:04 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 19:32:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > http://pure-gas.org/ Great! There's one only 90 miles away. From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 25 21:33:37 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 03:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <797536157.534545.1306373080331.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1933569004.2218798.1306380817607.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I can too, but they all involve rather lengthy prison sentences. I have a distinct aversion to the inside of prisons. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:24:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? I can think of some very imaginative and extremely innovative ways to "stimulate" those idiots in Washington DC. But I suppose I'll just have to stay with trying to vote them out ... sigh ! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: b-evans at earthlink.net It will also stimulate the economy! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 25 21:36:54 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 03:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in Portland OR? In-Reply-To: <1696167497.2218831.1306381000439.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2038904592.2218836.1306381014733.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I can check with my brother tomorrow. He lives in Lake Oswego, which I think is not too far from that location, although I am not familiar with that particular street. It's been 30+ years since I lived in Portland. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: jeffreymoore at hotkey.net.au To: "Spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:15:16 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in Portland OR? G'day all, B Trying to buyB a couple ofB parts from Northwest Import Parts, unfortunately having some difficulties because they will not ship overseas. B Anyone live close to them who may be able to pick up and forward to me? This is their address: Northwest Import Parts 10042 SW Balmer Portland, OR 97219 USA B If someone can help me out please contact me off-list. B Cheers Jeff. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kmappley at gmail.com Wed May 25 21:40:55 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! Message-ID: I don't know where you guys are buying your ethanol or how you are storing your cars but I can't believe your problems are from the alcohol. Once again I'm here to defend gasahol!! And yes I'm one of those nasty SUSIDISED corn farmers! My subsidy amounts to nearly nothing anymore for the uninformed--unlike the subsidy to big oil that has just reaped the largest profits in the history of the universe! I have been running ethanol blended gas here in the midwest since the mid 80's in everything including my several brit cars. The only trouble I've ever seen is perhaps some older hoses. PERHAPS--- old hoses always have eventually rotted away always! Kurt. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 25 21:53:21 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:53:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ethanol lased gas absorbs water like crazy. I like corn, just not in my fuel tank. In my experience Ethanol is not selective, it ruins old and new hoses. It terrorizes 2-stroke outboards that are sensitive to lean conditions. I dunno if the fuel/oil/ethanol mix is any worse than just fuel/ethanol but in my experience two stroke engines are more prone to ethanol based problems. I prefer sugar to high fructose corn syrup, too. Sorry, nothing personal. Corn on the cob is awesome. I make a mean corn casserole. Popcorn is awesome. I'll pass on the corn whiskey and would like to pass on the Ethanol. BTW, I'm buying my Ethanol in a region with generally high humidity. On some days I can pour a cup of gasahol in a cup and within 10 minutes it will be so cloudy with absorbed moisture that you can no longer see through it. From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed May 25 22:05:26 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:05:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDDD186.3040402@sbcglobal.net> This goofy idea wasn't the brainchild of bureaucrats. It was a direct result of the push from the corn lobby. The environmental professionals are well aware of its shortcomings, but corn talks. Waddayagonnado? We can use 10% without mechanical problems. 15% is a bit much for my comfort and E85 is for special use only. Gasahol has a short shelf life and should be used before its moisture attraction properties become an issue. A great excuse to get out and drive our cars. Which reminds me, next week, May 28 - June 5 is British Car Week http://www.britishcarweek.org/ On 5/25/2011 10:36 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:00:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From:b-evans at earthlink.net > To: Billy Zoom, "spridgets_autox.team.net" > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? > Message-ID: > <19457783.1306371658350.JavaMail.root at elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >>> >> The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer cars. >> >What are the rest of us supposed to do? My newest vehicle is a 2000. > Buy a new model "Bureaucrat" from General Motors. It will also stimulate the economy! > > > ------------------------------ From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed May 25 22:08:41 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:08:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? References: Message-ID: <3CBB8DF17D8E414FAD60E8B479EFD0D1@personal> Roger that Billy, here is to ya. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Dave KK7SS" ; "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? > There are much better uses for corn alcohol. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3660 - Release Date: 05/25/11 From kmappley at gmail.com Wed May 25 22:10:50 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:10:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: Nice to see that not everyone on this list is out of touch with reality !! [thanks Lee] . I'm in the camp that has been using ethanol for 30 years with no problem except as mentioned, some older hoses. But then old hose always did rot!! Ethanol blend is hygroscopic and that should be a good thing unless it becomes saturated!! It carries the water out of your system!! No more rusty tanks!!! As for us farmers getting fat off your tax dollars its time you wake up to the fact that we have been getting bashed now for decades and get nearly NO subsidy from you anymore and are going to be getting less. Unlike big oil that has just shown the largest profits in the history of the universe!! Why do you suppose ther are none of us left--too much profit!! Kurt. From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 25 22:38:31 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 04:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1091160277.2219274.1306384711042.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> It also reduces your gas mileage. I keep records on all my vehicles, and since switching to non ethanol, my truck's mileage has improved by 3 mpg in combined driving. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Kurt Appley" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:53:21 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! Ethanol lased gas absorbs water like crazy. I like corn, just not in my fuel tank. In my experience Ethanol is not selective, it ruins old and new hoses. It terrorizes 2-stroke outboards that are sensitive to lean conditions. I dunno if the fuel/oil/ethanol mix is any worse than just fuel/ethanol but in my experience two stroke engines are more prone to ethanol based problems. I prefer sugar to high fructose corn syrup, too. Sorry, nothing personal. Corn on the cob is awesome. I make a mean corn casserole. Popcorn is awesome. I'll pass on the corn whiskey and would like to pass on the Ethanol. BTW, I'm buying my Ethanol in a region with generally high humidity. On some days I can pour a cup of gasahol in a cup and within 10 minutes it will be so cloudy with absorbed moisture that you can no longer see through it. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kmappley at gmail.com Wed May 25 22:40:02 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:40:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: I'd like to add that a friend made acquaintance with fellow in the fuel blending business and was told that you have been getting a greater than 10% blend for some time. Nobody checks and the alcohol is CHEAPER, or at least has been. I believe that somewhere I got the information that a blend above 20% isn't harmful. A while back someone, I believe, on this list was happy to see E 85 pumps because he could blend a mix that his high compression engine would run on. [ Alcohol in--Octane up!]. Then, the subject of ethanol raising the cost of food!!! Wake up people, inflation is running rampant because of the 2008 mess from completely deregulated big banking. The Fed has opened the spigot and that has made food produced in this country look cheap to many around the world!! That has had a far greater effect on prices than alcohol. Kurt. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 25 22:40:06 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:40:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! In-Reply-To: <1091160277.2219274.1306384711042.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1091160277.2219274.1306384711042.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Yes, I get 10% or so fewer MPG in my Tacoma when I compare the two. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 25 22:48:02 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:48:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm against subsidies, in general, but I won't begrudge you your subsidy, not knowing the details. I think farmers feed the world. My sister and BIL raise cattle and hay. Farming is hard work and I don't see farmers getting wealthy. OTOH a non profitable system in unsustainable. OTOOH I am a big fan of Diesel and veg oil. Can veg oil be obtained from corn? From kmappley at gmail.com Wed May 25 22:56:53 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:56:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: I believe one of the main reasons for putting alcohol in gas to start with was to replace MTPE as an oxygenate for pollution reduction. The MPTE or what ever it was, was a carcinogen with a long life that was being found in well water!!! As for me, I'd rather drink ALCOHOL!!! Kurt. From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed May 25 23:03:37 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 05:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! In-Reply-To: <1756446226.536467.1306386160529.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1303897763.536469.1306386217292.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Same thing here... 5 mpg improvement with my '06 Civic Hybrid.3 mpg improvement on my sons' Eclipse -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net It also reduces your gas mileage. I keep records on all my vehicles, and since switching to non ethanol, my truck's mileage has improved by 3 mpg in combined driving. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 25 23:50:01 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 00:50:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, ethanol was more expensive to produce until about 2006 when federal ethanol mandates penalized the production of regular gasoline in order to make ethanol fuel look more attractive. Take a good look at this: http://www.neo.ne.gov/statshtml/66.html As to the farmers, I have one acronym... PIK. Anytime you have to pay someone NOT to do their job something is seriously wrong.... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > I'd like to add that a friend made acquaintance with fellow in the fuel > blending business and was told that you have been getting a greater than > 10% > blend for some time. Nobody checks and the alcohol is CHEAPER, or at least > has been. I believe that somewhere I got the information that a blend above > 20% isn't harmful. A while back someone, I believe, on this list was happy > to see E 85 pumps because he could blend a mix that his high compression > engine would run on. [ Alcohol in--Octane up!]. > Then, the subject of ethanol raising the cost of food!!! > Wake up people, inflation is running rampant because of the 2008 mess from > completely deregulated big banking. > The Fed has opened the spigot and that has made food produced in this > country look cheap to many around the world!! That has had a far greater > effect on prices than alcohol. > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 26 04:25:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 06:25:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Cool_Speedwell_in_one_of_my_favorite_c?= =?iso-8859-1?q?olours_only_=A320=2C000_=3A_=29?= In-Reply-To: <363021.73798.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <256326.4980.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <363021.73798.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: So how did they attach the seams on that Archers hood (top) being it is fiberglass to metal? Wouldn't that seam crack with flex? I not only like the color but would love a hardtop version Sprite too : ) Lin On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:02 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Agreed. Not a Speedwell, but probably a solid US MkI converted with > Archer's > Garage Speedwell parts. Still enough, a wonderful color and depending on > the > state of tune of the 948, possibly worth the price. Panel fit isn't > optimal > and I think its best value would be based on how you could slot it in as a > vintage racer on either side of the pond. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Jay wrote: > > From: Jay > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool Speedwell in one of my favorite colours only > #20,000 : ) > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 2:49 PM > > The way I read that, it is a replica. > > And enlarging the engine bay pic, not > only confirms that, but also shows that it > was not very well done either. > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda > Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 2:20:46 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Speedwell in one > of my favorite colours only #20,000 : > ) > > List, > Reminds me of Frank's, sort of > like the sister Speedwell : ) > Main site: > http://www.fernhurst-tvr.co.uk/ > Speedwell: > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 26 04:26:59 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 06:26:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite very interesting bonnet and lines....link attached. Message-ID: List I stumbled across this Sebring Sprite very interesting bonnet and lines, anyone know about this one? http://www.remarkablecars.com/main/austin-healey/austin-healey-00016.html Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 26 04:30:15 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 06:30:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Factory Mk II Tonneau for Sale $25.00 In-Reply-To: <342489.2780.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <342489.2780.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This Cowgirl won : ) Anyone know which paint will work on this? Lin On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Jay wrote: > Fellow Cowboys and Cowgirls, > > I take no pride in sending this message other than to offer one of you a > good > deal on a factory tonneau. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120726689252 > > I have a no reserve opening bid of $25.00 on this auction and the only > thing > wrong with this tonneau is that it is stained and dirty. The zipper works > fine > and there are no rips or tears. A respray with vinyl paint/dye would make > this a > really nice user tonneau. > > Sorry for the self-promotion but someone should take advantage of this > deal. > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu May 26 04:54:02 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 03:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Cool_Speedwell_in_one_of_my_favorite_c?= =?iso-8859-1?q?olours_only_=A320=2C000_=3A_=29?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <305448.55720.qm@web161208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> My guess is they use a bonding adhesive. Here's a link to the parts: http://www.sebringsprite.com/price_list.htm and here are some cars under construction: http://www.sebringsprite.com/replica.htm Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 5/26/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool Speedwell in one of my favorite colours only #20,000 : ) To: "HealeyRick" Cc: "Spridgets" , "Jay" Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 6:25 AM So how did they attach the seams on that Archers hood (top) being it is fiberglass to metal? Wouldn't that seam crack with flex? I not only like the color but would love a hardtop version Sprite too : ) Lin On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:02 PM, HealeyRick wrote: Agreed. Not a Speedwell, but probably a solid US MkI converted with Archer's Garage Speedwell parts. Still enough, a wonderful color and depending on the state of tune of the 948, possibly worth the price. Panel fit isn't optimal and I think its best value would be based on how you could slot it in as a vintage racer on either side of the pond. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Thu May 26 05:36:46 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 04:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ETHANOL Message-ID: <911702.31161.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm told that premium gasoline has no ethanol. Anyone know? Skip J. From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 06:04:05 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 05:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Factory Mk II Tonneau for Sale $25.00 In-Reply-To: References: <342489.2780.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <503986.4217.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I haven't used this product since 1993 but it was first class back then Surflex by Color-Plus At the time, I got the lead from a respected Big Healey restoration shop that used it to refurbish original Healey seats. It can be used on Leather or Vinyl. I needed it to color the door rope on my Pink Car since for some reason wasn't available in pink/coral. It's an interesting product as it's as thin as water, but covers effectively in 2-3 easy to apply coats. A little goes a long way. http://www.colorplus.com I have also used shoe coloring available at a shoemaker/shoe repair (Remember those places?) which come in almost any color and are often used to change the color of dancer's shoes. Some people are lovers and not dancers, but the recommendation still applies. Other than that, you could experiment with one of the vinyl sprays, such as VHT or the like. I have no experience with those. Since our generation did it's share of experimentation, at this late date, I would recommend a mask. Nothing personal, I'm speaking for protection of your lungs. http://www.vhtpaint.com/vinyldye.html And as always, thanks for your purchase. jay ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Jay Cc: Spridgets Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 6:30:15 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Factory Mk II Tonneau for Sale $25.00 This Cowgirl won : ) Anyone know which paint will work on this? Lin On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Jay wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120726689252 From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 06:11:13 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 05:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper Message-ID: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Well looky here, from today's Bring a Trailer..... I lust after Lancia Stratos's. If you aren't familiar with them, you're excused as they are rather rare. Pictures don't do the car justice as they are also rather small.......and rather fast...... A little history: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/lancia-stratos-sports-cars.htm Like I said, Bring a Diaper http://bringatrailer.com/2011/05/25/bat-exclusive-1997-hawk-hf3000-lancia-stratos-kit/#more- jay From kmappley at gmail.com Thu May 26 06:37:41 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:37:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??? Message-ID: Jim: I too am against subsidy's. Sooooo---lets stop the subsidy's to big oil and the big electric power company's as well. As mentioned, there are none of us left so they have really done there job haven't they. Government statistics put someone who grows tomato's in window boxes on high rises in NY on the census list as a farmer. We actually believe there are only 200K farmers that derive there entire income from agriculture left. Look around the world at country's that don't subsidise there farmers and you will see the most efficient farming practice. Subsistence farming! People in this country eat for less than 6% of there disposable income, I believe, and we get less 20% of that. A box of breakfast cereal costs more for the box than the company paid for what is in it!! Kurt. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu May 26 06:39:53 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:39:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ETHANOL In-Reply-To: <911702.31161.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <911702.31161.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: False. Here there are incentives for stations to buy Ethanol. They can buy without, but they make more money with. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu May 26 06:56:21 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:56:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just think Ethanol should be available to those who want it and the price to produce it should be covered in the cost paid by the people that want it. If the govt is subsidizing growers and giving sellers tax incentives then it just seems to me like they're tampering with the market. As a consumer I don't like it. Again, I don't begrudge you your subsidy. I realize some people need and use welfare as a tool to help them out. I don't like the system that rewards slackers that abuse welfare. Those slackers, in turn, get to vote for their enablers. Welfare and subsidies are not the same but they are both examples of how the govt likes to dole out money. I hope the govt strives to dole out money in the most efficient way to those truly in need. Here is one example of govt waste that makes me angry: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/17/senator-questions-benefits-to-adult-baby/ From kmappley at gmail.com Thu May 26 06:59:32 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:59:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: My final word, and I'm heading for Ohio to my daughters wedding. I'm wondering if you folks that have been having trouble with saturated ethanol arent getting ethanol that is already nearly saturated when you buy it. Try another station! I think Valero is the largest producer of alcohol for gas and I would think they would have a vested interest in selling you the good stuff. As for lower gas mileage I have to agree and must say I forgot about that aspect. Where I'm at the lower cost of the blended fuel I always figured offset the lower mileage. Plus the higher octane. Finally, if your engine pings, add a little E85 and lower your jets a flat or two!!!! ;-) Kurt. From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu May 26 07:28:27 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:28:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD03EBCE9@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> I believe the zinc and phosphorus issue has been pretty well addressed by market forces over the past couple of years. There are plenty of sources currently for "not for road use" lubes (meaning "We don't meet API OEM standards for reduced ZDDP levels and you shouldn't use this in your Kia Sorento"). The boutique blenders have them (Redline, Royal Purple, Joe Gibbs, Schaeffer's etc.) as well as some larger refiners (BradPenn) and even "giants" (Valvoline). A few things to note however: 1. Valvoline has started applying their "VR-1" branding to non- racing oils (check the bottle: you DO NOT want an API "sunburst" on the back telling you it's approved). 2. Real racing oils run in clean motors and the oil does not have to deal with climatic changes, so there are very low levels of cleaning detergents (which vintage street cars probably need). Look for non-approved non-racing oil to get detergents (e.g. BradPenn Hot Rod oil is one). 3. The old notion that diesel-rated oils will take care of you is no longer true. Diesel oils have also been reformulated. 4. The oil marketing companies will change their formulations without changing the name or appearance of the label on the bottle. 5. Too much ZDDP is also bad for cams and tappets. The sweet spot is between 1300 and 1500 p.p.m. Current API "SM" rated oils are in the 800 p.p.m. range usually. If you use an additive, do a little arithmetic and figure out how much to add per your sump capacity and your chosen oil's existing ZDDP level. 6. Search "BobIsTheOilGuy" and "virgin oil analysis" or "VOA" and your favorite oil, and you may find that a lube geek has already posted the analysis results for that product. 7. If you are really anal, for $10-15 you can send a sample to a lab and have it tested (Google is your friend here). YMMV. JohnD Raising donations for pediatric cancer research driving a '52 MG TD on the Rallye to Reno Read about it at: www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com >Cheers!! >Jim >P.S. When are we gonna tackle the lack of ZDDP in lubricants for flat tappet >engines?? From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 26 08:13:12 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:13:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... Message-ID: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 08:23:22 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse Message-ID: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get the collective advice wisdom of the list on this. Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well as transport in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? jay fishbein wallingford, ct From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:30:09 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:30:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: after reading the article, I say, "pull his check, and let him pull his own plug". If we are gonna cut, lets cut. Everyone needs to remember, cuts bleed. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:56 AM, derf wrote: > I just think Ethanol should be available to those who want it and the > price to produce it should be covered in the cost paid by the people > that want it. > If the govt is subsidizing growers and giving sellers tax incentives > then it just seems to me like they're tampering with the market. > As a consumer I don't like it. > Again, I don't begrudge you your subsidy. > I realize some people need and use welfare as a tool to help them out. > I don't like the system that rewards slackers that abuse welfare. > Those slackers, in turn, get to vote for their enablers. Welfare and > subsidies are not the same but they are both examples of how the govt > likes to dole out money. I hope the govt strives to dole out money in > the most efficient way to those truly in need. > Here is one example of govt waste that makes me angry: > > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/17/senator-questions-benefits-to-adult-baby/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Thu May 26 08:30:03 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Healey Woodie Message-ID: <656621.10988.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Does anyone recognize the engine in this car? e-Bay 160591131241 Skip J From nases at verizon.net Thu May 26 08:32:01 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:32:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <08F6A53D-EFA2-469B-AE96-E60414BBF656@verizon.net> Can I go back and unsee that? OMG that's ugly. Phil Nase home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 26, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From jpaschke at bak.rr.com Thu May 26 08:36:18 2011 From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:36:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DDE6562.4070407@bak.rr.com> Well, those wheel chocks should do double duty if they are any good.... On 5/26/2011 7:23 AM, Jay wrote: > I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get the > collective advice wisdom of the list on this. > > Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. > > I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well as transport > in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. > > I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. > > What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jpaschke at bak.rr.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:36:47 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:36:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Frank would have LOVED the instrument panel!!! On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 08:38:08 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <533797.49037.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I dig it. I also like the comment: "There is a fine line between a 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." jay ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 10:13:12 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 From jdinnis at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:42:40 2011 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:42:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have been using Tomcat brand poison the last few years. The mice eat about half the block each winter, but I have not had any wiring damage since I started using it. It is supposed to cause them to leave the car (looking for water), so the fact that I have not found any dead mice is to be expected. As long as they are not chewing the wiring, I'll keep using this sutff. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Jay wrote: > I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get > the > collective advice wisdom of the list on this. > > Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. > > I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well as > transport > in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. > > I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. > > What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From heard at datatrontech.net Thu May 26 08:44:09 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:44:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <069e01cc1bb3$5f0e2440$1d2a6cc0$@net> Oh, I think those lights hanging off the windshield are sporty! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:13 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:44:39 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:44:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, the obvious answer is a cat. There are also deterents that can be spread or sprayed around. Find a good garden shop and ask for something that smells like urine. Or explain the problem and let them bring up the U word. The pee from a predator will keep the mousies away. As an alternate, you can mount an owl decoy under the hood. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jay wrote: > I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get > the > collective advice wisdom of the list on this. > > Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. > > I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well as > transport > in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. > > I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. > > What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From heard at datatrontech.net Thu May 26 08:45:05 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:45:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <069f01cc1bb3$80d7bd20$82873760$@net> I also think this guy can honestly say, 'I'm NEVER selling my Sprite.' -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:13 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:50:50 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:50:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <533797.49037.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <533797.49037.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I dig it. I would be delighted to help you dig the hole to push it into. My eyes! My eyes!!! And to think that it was once a perfectly inoffensive Bugeye... Just goes to prove, once again, the truth in Burt Levy's words about the car having no control over who owns it. David L From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 26 09:02:57 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <08F6A53D-EFA2-469B-AE96-E60414BBF656@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1855127413.539724.1306422177223.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I looked *very* carefully and not one gauge told me what time zone I'm in. :( No Sale! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid On May 26, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu May 26 09:15:44 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:15:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! In-Reply-To: <1031507126.451710.1305803440073.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1031507126.451710.1305803440073.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <68EBA9FD-2029-4133-8F42-3BEF241F0337@comcast.net> That car is a Lightweight replica, apparently it was a regular at the Saturday (?) morning drive-in. No word yet on repair cost... Lester on the Jag-Lovers list too.. On May 19, 2011, at 6:10 AM, lotuspilot at frontier.com wrote: > You are suggesting that if you have an original old warrior with a racing past and is still wearing "the past", a person should be ashamed when going for a blast on the streets in between vintage races or simply for the fun of using the car? > > This sounds like a personal viewpoint that you have and I doubt is widespread. I know of quite a few old racers that sometimes take to the road with numbers as they are painted on. > > Please do explain the possible motorsports penalty. I thought that they only have control over what is done during their sanctioned races. > > Interesting. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:06:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] XKE body modifications customized by KRUNCH! > > In a message dated 18/05/2011 21:05:56 GMT Daylight Time, > WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com writes: > > > Or maybe not or things are different in the USA to UK. Over here no self > respecting racer will drive on the public highway with racing numbers and > in fact there is possibly a motorsports penalty for doing so. > > I see a rear wheel is missing. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 18/05/2011 06:18:01 GMT Daylight Time, > b-evans at earthlink.net writes: > > We passed the site of this accident about 10 minutes before it really > screwed up traffic. The location is known at the "Orange Crush" at the > Interchange of Interstate 5/ State Route 22 Freeways. The right-hand drive > XKE with small driver windscreen and large numbers suggest it was a racer. > > http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crash-300728-lanes-yaris.html?pic=1 > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 26 09:23:04 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:23:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <201105260823314.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 09:13 AM 5/26/2011, Peter Caldwell wrote: >http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 I think it needs a ground up restoration....... ........... hey Bob, start the shredder! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu May 26 09:29:37 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 08:29:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > MTPE as an oxygenate for pollution reduction. Which reduced mileage by about one third, without actually reducing pollution. It did give them an excuse to raise the price of gas because of the extra processing. My mileage always drops by about 15mpg right after Halloween, and comes back in the Spring. BZ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu May 26 09:30:25 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:30:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110526153025.T7J61.3359.root@cdptpa-web22-z01> I have used the plain simple little wooden traps. I fine tune them so they have a "hair trigger", just be careful when setting them so you don't end up with sore fingers. Be sure there is no other food source in the garage. The only time I've had a problem in catching vermin is when there was other food nearby that allowed them to ignore the traps. > I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get the > collective advice wisdom of the list on this. > > Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu May 26 09:51:45 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 08:51:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Healey Woodie In-Reply-To: <656621.10988.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Does anyone recognize the engine in this car? Riley twin cam. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu May 26 10:25:28 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:25:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28660E05C90B485CB5BEDE8613210626@spider> I use moth balls "Older mothballs consisted primarily of naphthalene, but due to naphthalene's flammability, modern mothballs use 1,4-dichlorobenzene instead. Both of these ingredients have a strong, pungent odor often associated strongly with mothballs. Camphor, an insect repellent, can also be used in mothballs. Both chemicals kill moths and moth larvae with the vapor. Both naphthalene and para-dichlorobenzene sublimate, meaning they evaporate from a solid state to a vapor; this vapor is toxic to the moths." I have closed vehicles so they last a long time. ...bill in corvallis ======================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:23 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get the collective advice wisdom of the list on this. Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well as transport in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? jay fishbein wallingford, ct Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu May 26 10:36:11 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 16:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <1836128633.2225665.1306427730909.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1064090975.2225670.1306427771679.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> There is nothing better than a small terrier, such as a Westie or mini schnauzer to keep mice and rats out of your possessions. I'd recommend one of the Russells, but they'll even drive a normal person insane and, since you own British cars, we know you're already 1/2 way there, you don't need any help. If your not interested in a solution that eats, go to your local farm supply and pick up a package of Just One Bite. Break the bars apart and put one in several strategic places. There is nothing that a non commercial consumer can buy that works better, other than solution number one. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:23:22 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get the collective advice wisdom of the list on this. Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well as transport in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? jay fishbein wallingford, ct Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu May 26 10:42:44 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <466294.66786.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dammit Jay - why'd you have to show that to me? I had to very quickly hit the back button before seeing if there was any way in the world I could afford to buy that car. Must refrain from going back to that page... must refrain... I have been in love/lust with the Lancia Stratos since they were new. The things looked like an alien spaceship when they first came out. The fact that they dominated World Rally competition for so many years didn't hurt either. Problem is that as much as I'd love to own one, I'm afraid it would break my heart (and wallet). They are supposed to be virtually undriveable at speed by all but the most highly talented of folks. I consider myself a good driver, but not in the league of the guys that were able to actually get the full performance out of these things. I guess since the wheelbase is so short and track so wide, it has a tendancy to turn in rather well and end up spinning into the surrounding scenery. Still... The Hawk cars are supposed to be far better than the original Lancias. An Alfa V6 is more powerful and reliable than the Ferrari unit in the originals too. Maybe they've tuned out some of the inherent twitchiness... Where was that car located??? - David Booker Long Island From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 10:49:51 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <1064090975.2225670.1306427771679.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1064090975.2225670.1306427771679.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <975215.73754.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Good suggestion, but we already have a Havanese, but sharp-eyed listers already know that. jay fishbein wallingford, CT ________________________________ From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" Cc: Spridgets Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 12:36:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse There is nothing better than a small terrier, such as a Westie or mini schnauzer to keep mice and rats out of your possessions. I'd recommend one of the Russells, but they'll even drive a normal person insane and, since you own British cars, we know you're already 1/2 way there, you don't need any help. If your not interested in a solution that eats, go to your local farm supply and pick up a package of Just One Bite. Break the bars apart and put one in several strategic places. There is nothing that a non commercial consumer can buy that works better, other than solution number one. Kate From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 10:50:51 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <466294.66786.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <466294.66786.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <484167.39228.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> "Where was that car located???" In my heart? Don't rightly know. If you want it bad enough, does it really make any difference? jay ________________________________ From: David Booker To: Jay ; Spridgets Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 12:42:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper Dammit Jay - why'd you have to show that to me? I had to very quickly hit the back button before seeing if there was any way in the world I could afford to buy that car. Must refrain from going back to that page... must refrain... I have been in love/lust with the Lancia Stratos since they were new. The things looked like an alien spaceship when they first came out. The fact that they dominated World Rally competition for so many years didn't hurt either. Problem is that as much as I'd love to own one, I'm afraid it would break my heart (and wallet). They are supposed to be virtually undriveable at speed by all but the most highly talented of folks. I consider myself a good driver, but not in the league of the guys that were able to actually get the full performance out of these things. I guess since the wheelbase is so short and track so wide, it has a tendancy to turn in rather well and end up spinning into the surrounding scenery. Still... The Hawk cars are supposed to be far better than the original Lancias. An Alfa V6 is more powerful and reliable than the Ferrari unit in the originals too. Maybe they've tuned out some of the inherent twitchiness... Where was that car located??? - David Booker Long Island From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 26 10:54:12 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: <86cf4.25dfb142.3b0fdfb4@aol.com> What happens if you have too much? In a message dated 26/05/2011 14:40:55 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: 5. Too much ZDDP is also bad for cams and tappets. The sweet spot is between 1300 and 1500 p.p.m. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 26 10:57:13 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? Message-ID: <86f32.3bf4b7eb.3b0fe069@aol.com> Maybe they want you to buy a new car? What are the rest of us supposed to do? My newest vehicle is a 2000. From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu May 26 11:16:18 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:16:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <20110526153025.T7J61.3359.root@cdptpa-web22-z01> References: <20110526153025.T7J61.3359.root@cdptpa-web22-z01> Message-ID: >I have used the plain simple little wooden traps. A caught mouse leaves a smell that others avoid. You have to wash a used trap in the dishwasher. From lotuspilot at frontier.com Thu May 26 11:16:28 2011 From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <86cf4.25dfb142.3b0fdfb4@aol.com> Message-ID: <235021469.550283.1306430188882.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I know this one . . . You have to put numbers on all of your cars and drive all over England while Brits boo at you and throw rotten tomatoes for you being so inconsiderate ;^)). Sorry John. ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: "John Deikis" , spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:54:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP What happens if you have too much? In a message dated 26/05/2011 14:40:55 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: 5. Too much ZDDP is also bad for cams and tappets. The sweet spot is between 1300 and 1500 p.p.m. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 26 11:33:22 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite very interesting bonnet and lines....link atta... Message-ID: <88a8d.1a2c161c.3b0fe8e2@aol.com> Nope but I'd be real interested to see photos of the 'off frame restoration'. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/05/2011 11:27:07 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: List I stumbled across this Sebring Sprite very interesting bonnet and lines, anyone know about this one? http://www.remarkablecars.com/main/austin-healey/austin-healey-00016.html Lin From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 26 11:40:21 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: <88f9d.43172a0f.3b0fea85@aol.com> There's my first problem, I only have one car! I think numbers all over would be ok it's when there is a 2 digit number on the car in 3 places, black letters on a white background. I guess the tomatoes would have to be imported.............. bit early for home grown In a message dated 26/05/2011 18:16:29 GMT Daylight Time, lotuspilot at frontier.com writes: I know this one . . . You have to put numbers on all of your cars and drive all over England while Brits boo at you and throw rotten tomatoes for you being so inconsiderate ;^)). Sorry John. ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: "John Deikis" , spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:54:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP What happens if you have too much? In a message dated 26/05/2011 14:40:55 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: 5. Too much ZDDP is also bad for cams and tappets. The sweet spot is between 1300 and 1500 p.p.m. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 26 11:41:58 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse Message-ID: <890e0.91296c9.3b0feae6@aol.com> So if humans are predators you just need to piss on your car, in the garage and stuff and it's goodbye mouse? In a message dated 26/05/2011 15:56:48 GMT Daylight Time, lbc77mg at gmail.com writes: The pee from a predator will keep the mousies away. From neilandcustom at gmail.com Thu May 26 11:42:31 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:42:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <466294.66786.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <466294.66786.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002e01cc1bcc$4c8d78c0$e5a86a40$@com> David, It's a long way from you, located in Santa Ana, CA. It might be just far enough away for you to resist. Neil Anderson -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:43 AM To: Jay; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper Dammit Jay - why'd you have to show that to me? I had to very quickly hit the back button before seeing if there was any way in the world I could afford to buy that car. Must refrain from going back to that page... must refrain... I have been in love/lust with the Lancia Stratos since they were new. The things looked like an alien spaceship when they first came out. The fact that they dominated World Rally competition for so many years didn't hurt either. Problem is that as much as I'd love to own one, I'm afraid it would break my heart (and wallet). They are supposed to be virtually undriveable at speed by all but the most highly talented of folks. I consider myself a good driver, but not in the league of the guys that were able to actually get the full performance out of these things. I guess since the wheelbase is so short and track so wide, it has a tendancy to turn in rather well and end up spinning into the surrounding scenery. Still... The Hawk cars are supposed to be far better than the original Lancias. An Alfa V6 is more powerful and reliable than the Ferrari unit in the originals too. Maybe they've tuned out some of the inherent twitchiness... Where was that car located??? - David Booker Long Island Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/neilandcustom at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu May 26 12:27:31 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:27:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110526182732.MQE8P.39951.root@cdptpa-web24-z01> I've never had any problems with them, but if I have to convince my wife to put them in the dishwasher, I'll just have to live with the rats. > >I have used the plain simple little wooden traps. > > A caught mouse leaves a smell that others avoid. You have to wash a used > trap in the dishwasher. From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu May 26 12:31:34 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <890e0.91296c9.3b0feae6@aol.com> Message-ID: <1428945662.2227269.1306434694600.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> No, he just wants me to undo all the years I've spent training my dogs not to lift their legs on wheels. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: lbc77mg at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:41:58 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse So if humans are predators you just need to piss on your car, in the garage and stuff and it's goodbye mouse? In a message dated 26/05/2011 15:56:48 GMT Daylight Time, lbc77mg at gmail.com writes: The pee from a predator will keep the mousies away. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 26 12:45:26 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <20110526182732.MQE8P.39951.root@cdptpa-web24-z01> Message-ID: <1599056078.543355.1306435526832.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I throw them away - mouse+trap - and buy new traps... they're cheap enough -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- > A caught mouse leaves a smell that others avoid. You have to wash a used > trap in the dishwasher. From lists at dinospider.com Thu May 26 12:48:17 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:48:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <466294.66786.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <466294.66786.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DDEA071.30303@dinospider.com> I would argue that reliability statement !!! but of course I have a proper 2.0L Dino V6 and not that new fangled 2.4. Now lets see...cough cough, yup I am sick, leave work, hook up the trailer, drive to Santa Anna and pick it up, get it home and into the garage before the wife sees it...can do. And over the 3 day weekend I can put a spare Dino motor in (2.0 of course). Ok, its only a dream, a silly one at that since that would be my first non-convertible car in my life. mike On 05/26/2011 09:42 AM, David Booker wrote: > be far better than the original Lancias. An Alfa > V6 is more powerful and > reliable than the Ferrari unit in the originals > too. Maybe they've tuned out From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu May 26 12:50:49 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <686601086.2227480.1306435589533.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2005865721.2227522.1306435849162.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Adorable dogs, but not terriers. Believe me, one small terrier will do more damage to a colony of rats or mice than a whole fleet of cats. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:49:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse Good suggestion, but we already have a Havanese, but sharp-eyed listers already know that. jay fishbein wallingford, CT ________________________________ From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" Cc: Spridgets Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 12:36:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse There is nothing better than a small terrier, such as a Westie or mini schnauzer to keep mice and rats out of your possessions. I'd recommend one of the Russells, but they'll even drive a normal person insane and, since you own British cars, we know you're already 1/2 way there, you don't need any help. If your not interested in a solution that eats, go to your local farm supply and pick up a package of Just One Bite. Break the bars apart and put one in several strategic places. There is nothing that a non commercial consumer can buy that works better, other than solution number one. Kate Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 12:56:57 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <779515.50571.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> This was sent to me offlist by a fellow lister. I think it's ingenious. jay ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: 980cc <980cc at cfl.rr.com> To: Jay Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 1:20:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse Hi Jay, As far as the meeces go ... This idea came from an RV list. The vehicles being stored for a period of time. I know that it works well. Procure a five gallon bucket. ... and a wooden dowel rod (1" or so) that fits fairly well in the top opening. (just "shy" of the diameter of the top opening) Two nails, one in the center of each end of the dowel, through holes drilled in the wall of the bucket. The dowel is now a "roller" somewhat flush with the top of the bucket opening. Precision pays off here .. we like easy rollers. Place a ring of peanut butter (I like Smuckers Natural) in the center of the roller. Fasten a ramp (yardstick?) up to the now tasty roller. Mouse walks up the ramp (tripping the optional motion sensor which starts the video camera) and heads out onto the roller ... Sucker! If this will be unattended for a while and no pets can access it, pour a couple of inches of anti-freeze in the bottom of the bucket. (this will preserve their furry little asses so no pesky odor) Water will work but obviously not preserve them. Or leave the bucket empty and dump it regularly in the Big Healey Garage next door. Good Luck Jay, Doug Bohn Central FL From edwd at ti.com Thu May 26 13:04:08 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:04:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mice Message-ID: Just as another data point, I have caught several mice on the same trap with no washing. Velveeta is my secret, they can't get it off the trap without snapping it... However, this was in my pantry not in any of my vehicles. Ed Dallas, Tx (actually Lucas, Tx in the country) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 26 13:08:24 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:08:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ETHANOL In-Reply-To: References: <911702.31161.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The EPA has made a mish-mash of this with more regional, local and state formulations of fuels than you can shake a stick at. There are differences even from day to day coming out of the same pump! As I said before, the only way to know for sure is to test the fuel each and every time before you fill up. Bastards. See: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels.htm Cheers!! Jim - becomingmorelibertarianthemoreilearnaboutourgovernment On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:39 AM, derf wrote: > False. Here there are incentives for stations to buy Ethanol. They > can buy without, but they make more money with. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 26 13:21:08 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ETHANOL In-Reply-To: References: <911702.31161.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <695183.62566.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I must be doing something very wrong or very right. I have never had a problem with fuel, ethanol, alcohol, whatever. I don't drain the tanks in my cars or yard equipment nor do I use stabilizer. My weed wacker and gas powered blower are 22 years old and start-up every Spring without a hitch. Neither have ever been serviced. Same with my other yard eq. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu May 26 13:21:54 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:21:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway Message-ID: The Wine Country Classic is around the corner . . just thought I would send this out for those of you who live in the area. I have been to a few of them. . they allow you to walk through the paddock area. I live about 40 minutes from the track and I love to go up there in my Bugeye. . the drive up is a lot of fun with some nice twisty's and a couple of small towns type areas that you pass through. I still remember a couple of years ago watching an E Type Jag, straight 6, taking a field of V8 Cobra's as it made such wonderful sounds down the back straight. The track tends to favor cars that are quick in the corners. The driver's comment after the race, "They can't catch the Cat in the corners." This was a wonderfully prepped E-Type drop top that should be racing again this season. Here is a nice site showing some pics, first weekend in June, and such regarding: http://www.sonomauncorked.com/wine-country-events/annual-events/wine-country-classic-vintage-car-races/ Kirk From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu May 26 13:38:20 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 19:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <779515.50571.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <875808541.2228394.1306438700325.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Thank you! I have a need for a dozen or so live mice to sneak into the new boss' office. He shot the two yard cats that we have been feeding for three years. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:56:57 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse This was sent to me offlist by a fellow lister. I think it's ingenious. jay ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: 980cc <980cc at cfl.rr.com> To: Jay Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 1:20:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse Hi Jay, As far as the meeces go ... This idea came from an RV list. The vehicles being stored for a period of time. I know that it works well. Procure a five gallon bucket. ... and a wooden dowel rod (1" or so) that fits fairly well in the top opening. (just "shy" of the diameter of the top opening) Two nails, one in the center of each end of the dowel, through holes drilled in the wall of the bucket. The dowel is now a "roller" somewhat flush with the top of the bucket opening. Precision pays off here .. we like easy rollers. Place a ring of peanut butter (I like Smuckers Natural) in the center of the roller. Fasten a ramp (yardstick?) up to the now tasty roller. Mouse walks up the ramp (tripping the optional motion sensor which starts the video camera) and heads out onto the roller ... Sucker! If this will be unattended for a while and no pets can access it, pour a couple of inches of anti-freeze in the bottom of the bucket. (this will preserve their furry little asses so no pesky odor) Water will work but obviously not preserve them. Or leave the bucket empty and dump it regularly in the Big Healey Garage next door. Good Luck Jay, Doug Bohn Central FL Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 26 13:40:46 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:40:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good on ya, Mate. I live in Dodge City Kansas where if farming disappeared tomorrow so would our city (wheat, corn & meat). However, this intimate contact with the farm community allows me to see what PIK and other subsidies have done. There are farmers out here who basically quit farming years ago when they found that playing the government subsidy game was far less work than actually growing much of anything. Not only less work, but higher paying!! AND, in the case of corn, they are sucking up the last of our most significant natural resource, water. We rely on the Ogallala Aquifer for water. Once the government accelerated the ethanol fiasco, all these farmers turned to growing irrigated corn - not as feed, but as a cash crop for the ethanol plants. Fine, you say? What if it takes more water than you were thinking to make corn based ethanol? A study, published in the journal - Environmental Science and Technology and the University of Minnesota found that as corn-based ethanol production approximately doubled nationwide between 2005 and 2008, related water use more than tripled. Since then it has continued to rise dramatically. In the past several years, the water level in the aquifer here (where we grow most of the nation's wheat and feed and raise most of its cattle) is dropping at an alarming rate and many wells are going dry leaving the land a desert not even capable of watering cattle. In short, corn based ethanol as pushed by the EPA is driving up the cost of all foods, not just corn, while also depleting the aquifers at a staggering rate. When that water is gone, it will take centuries to replenish and over those centuries many people all over the world will starve to death for lack of food. If you believe the EPA knew what it was doing, then you are naive. If EPA believed it knew what it was doing then the law of unintended consequences reins supreme. Cheers!! Jim Vote democratic if you want more great government in your life. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Jim: I too am against subsidy's. Sooooo---lets stop the subsidy's to big > oil > and the big electric power company's as well. > As mentioned, there are none of us left so they have really done there job > haven't they. Government statistics put someone who grows tomato's in > window > boxes on high rises in NY on the census list as a farmer. We actually > believe there are only 200K farmers that derive there entire income from > agriculture left. Look around the world at country's that don't subsidise > there farmers and you will see the most efficient farming practice. > Subsistence farming! People in this country eat for less than 6% of there > disposable income, I believe, and we get less 20% of that. A box of > breakfast cereal costs more for the box than the company paid for what is > in it!! > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From dwgwater at hotmail.com Thu May 26 14:10:16 2011 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:10:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <2005865721.2227522.1306435849162.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <686601086.2227480.1306435589533.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>, <2005865721.2227522.1306435849162.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: We had a Rat Terrier, who I thought might actually get rid of the few mice we had. Nope. Wonderful dog and very smart but had no idea that his job description included critters. He was very good at burrowing under blankets. Dave > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:50:49 +0000 > From: kgb at frontiernet.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > Adorable dogs, but not terriers. Believe me, one small terrier will do more damage to a colony of rats or mice than a whole fleet of cats. > > Kate > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:49:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > Good suggestion, but we already have a Havanese, but sharp-eyed listers already > know that. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, CT > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 12:36:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > There is nothing better than a small terrier, such as a Westie or mini schnauzer > to keep mice and rats out of your possessions. I'd recommend one of the > Russells, but they'll even drive a normal person insane and, since you own > British cars, we know you're already 1/2 way there, you don't need any help. If > your not interested in a solution that eats, go to your local farm supply and > pick up a package of Just One Bite. Break the bars apart and put one in several > strategic places. There is nothing that a non commercial consumer can buy that > works better, other than solution number one. > > Kate > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwgwater at hotmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 26 14:11:42 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:11:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <960046.39536.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oooo!! Ooooo!! Ooooo!! Oooooo!! (slobber slobber!) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Jay wrote: > Well looky here, from today's Bring a Trailer..... > > I lust after Lancia Stratos's. If you aren't familiar with them, you're > excused > as they are rather rare. Pictures don't do the car justice as they are also > rather small.......and rather fast...... > > A little history: > http://auto.howstuffworks.com/lancia-stratos-sports-cars.htm > > Like I said, Bring a Diaper > > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/05/25/bat-exclusive-1997-hawk-hf3000-lancia-stratos-kit/#more- > > > jay From dwgwater at hotmail.com Thu May 26 14:13:50 2011 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:13:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <28660E05C90B485CB5BEDE8613210626@spider> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <28660E05C90B485CB5BEDE8613210626@spider> Message-ID: > I use moth balls I can never get their little legs apart......... > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:25:28 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > I use moth balls > "Older mothballs consisted primarily of naphthalene, but due to > naphthalene's flammability, modern mothballs use 1,4-dichlorobenzene > instead. Both of these ingredients have a strong, pungent odor often > associated strongly with mothballs. Camphor, an insect repellent, can also > be used in mothballs. > > Both chemicals kill moths and moth larvae with the vapor. Both naphthalene > and para-dichlorobenzene sublimate, meaning they evaporate from a solid > state to a vapor; this vapor is toxic to the moths." > I have closed vehicles so they last a long time. ...bill in corvallis > ======================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:23 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need to get > the > collective advice wisdom of the list on this. > > Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. > > I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well as > transport > in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. > > I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. > > What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwgwater at hotmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 26 14:18:54 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:18:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <2005865721.2227522.1306435849162.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <686601086.2227480.1306435589533.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <2005865721.2227522.1306435849162.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: What Kate said... We have 3 Westies. No mice or rat problems in years... You ought to see the little buggers go once they get the scent of a mouse!! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:50 PM, wrote: > Adorable dogs, but not terriers. Believe me, one small terrier will do more > damage to a colony of rats or mice than a whole fleet of cats. > > Kate > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:49:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > Good suggestion, but we already have a Havanese, but sharp-eyed listers > already > know that. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, CT > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 12:36:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > There is nothing better than a small terrier, such as a Westie or mini > schnauzer > to keep mice and rats out of your possessions. I'd recommend one of the > Russells, but they'll even drive a normal person insane and, since you own > British cars, we know you're already 1/2 way there, you don't need any > help. If > your not interested in a solution that eats, go to your local farm supply > and > pick up a package of Just One Bite. Break the bars apart and put one in > several > strategic places. There is nothing that a non commercial consumer can buy > that > works better, other than solution number one. > > Kate > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 26 14:29:20 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 20:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1795770219.544970.1306441760787.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I must be a wierdo... I like the Morgan *much* better.. Pity I have no dough :( -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Oooo!! Ooooo!! Ooooo!! Oooooo!! (slobber slobber!) > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/05/25/bat-exclusive-1997-hawk-hf3000-lancia-stratos-kit/#more- From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 26 14:39:21 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:39:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I still remember a couple of years ago watching an E Type Jag, straight 6, taking a field of V8 Cobra's as it made such wonderful sounds down the back straight. The track tends to favor cars that are quick in the corners. The driver's comment after the race, "They can't catch the Cat in the corners." This was a wonderfully prepped E-Type drop top that should be racing again this season. Here is a nice site showing some pics, first weekend in June, and such regarding: http://www.sonomauncorked.com/wine-country-events/annual-events/wine-country-classic-vintage-car-races/ Kirk _______________________________________________ Unless they were bone stock 260 or 289 Cobras and a highly modified Jag, I can only assume that those must have been some exceptionally poorly driven Cobras. From lists at dinospider.com Thu May 26 14:45:06 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:45:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <1795770219.544970.1306441760787.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1795770219.544970.1306441760787.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DDEBBD2.2080907@dinospider.com> Which Morgan ? where is a Morgan ? now that is a car I would not have to hide from the wife On 05/26/2011 01:29 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I must be a wierdo... I like the Morgan *much* better.. > Pity I have no dough :( > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > > Oooo!! Ooooo!! Ooooo!! Oooooo!! (slobber slobber!) > > >> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/05/25/bat-exclusive-1997-hawk-hf3000-lancia-stratos-kit/#more- >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu May 26 15:00:34 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:00:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Larry, Well, one Cobra was in the lead for a bit until it broke down. This was the only breakdown in that race. . and that Cobra might have faired well had it not had mechanical issues. However, after that the Jag not only took the field, but it did so by a good margin. Yet with that said, Infineon has short straights with a lot of corners. Had it been a different track where the Cobras could have stretched out, it probably would have been a different story. My guess is that the Cobra's were all small block versions. . . Factory 5 type cars . . and by the sound and from what I saw, therefore none with 427's. I tried to find the company that campaigns this Jag (on the internet) but could not remember the name or find the same car. As I recall, they were claiming that it was putting out over 400 HP. . does this sound right for a 4.3 highly prepped engine with triple Webers, headers, higher compression heads, etc etc? If was for sure a fun experience watching a British car take and hold on to the lead as it did. Kirk On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > I still remember a couple of years ago watching an E Type Jag, straight 6, > taking a field of V8 Cobra's as it made such wonderful sounds down the back > straight. The track tends to favor cars that are quick in the corners. > The > driver's comment after the race, "They can't catch the Cat in the corners." > This was a wonderfully prepped E-Type drop top that should be racing again > this season. > > Here is a nice site showing some pics, first weekend in June, and such > regarding: > > > http://www.sonomauncorked.com/wine-country-events/annual-events/wine-country-classic-vintage-car-races/ > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Unless they were bone stock 260 or 289 Cobras and a highly modified Jag, I > can only assume that those must have been some exceptionally poorly driven > Cobras. From pvanwig at me.com Thu May 26 15:06:47 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:06:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <28660E05C90B485CB5BEDE8613210626@spider> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <28660E05C90B485CB5BEDE8613210626@spider> Message-ID: Mothballs are great for the too box as well prevents rust! On May 26, 2011, at 9:25 AM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: I use moth balls "Older mothballs consisted primarily of naphthalene, but due to naphthalene's flammability, modern mothballs use 1,4-dichlorobenzene instead. Both of these ingredients have a strong, pungent odor often associated strongly with mothballs. Camphor, an insect repellent, can also be used in mothballs. Both chemicals kill moths and moth larvae with the vapor. Both naphthalene and para-dichlorobenzene sublimate, meaning they evaporate from a solid state to a vapor; this vapor is toxic to the moths." I have closed vehicles so they last a long time. ...bill in corvallis Paul Van Wig pvanwig at mac.com facebook.com/pvanwig "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne Remember! If you forward this, PLEASE REMOVE all email address history before you send it on, and use BCC when forwarding to several people at once. BE KIND TO YOUR EMAIL FRIENDS No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu May 26 15:25:08 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:25:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Westies - Bull Terrier's Strange Behavior Message-ID: I understand that as cute as the Westie's are, they are something else when it comes to rats and mice allowing nothing to stand in their way to get to the prey. . . the cute little Westie turns into a tyrant when it comes to this kind of thing. My English Bull Terrier (Spuds McKenzie type) all white with a brown patch over one eye is also oriented to go after mice and rats as well as waterfowl at the edge of the shore. He goes after waterfowl and rats, mice, like a bullet. And I guess that due to being an "earth dog" he also loves to sleep under the covers at night. Even on the couch he will arrange a blanket so that he can crawl under it. The strange thing with Bull Terriers is how they will at times pick up on a scent leaving their head deep into a bush for a long time. He then emerges in a trance where he walks in slow motion with his eyes glazed over as though some chemical reaction has hit him and caused him to get a buzz of some sort. Our dog also does this in front of our fireplace . . all of a sudden walking in an animated slow motion walk as though he is making his way through a mine field. . very different breed. Kirk From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu May 26 15:39:35 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:39:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP In-Reply-To: <86cf4.25dfb142.3b0fdfb4@aol.com> References: <86cf4.25dfb142.3b0fdfb4@aol.com> Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD04411C5@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> My understanding (quite limited) is that ZDDP breaks down into phosphorus and sulfur that provides the extreme pressure protection by adhering to the sliding metal surfaces of the cam-tappet interface. Too much phos and sulfur actually attack the metal and cause eventual degradation. FWIW: the best recent article I've come across that summarizes the issues is on a Corvette site and worth reading. The author avoids a lot of the earlier hysteria and panic that characterized coverage of the topic in the popular press. http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/tech/oil/index.html Cheers! JohnD From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:54 PM To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP What happens if you have too much? In a message dated 26/05/2011 14:40:55 GMT Daylight Time, John.Deikis at va.gov writes: 5. Too much ZDDP is also bad for cams and tappets. The sweet spot is between 1300 and 1500 p.p.m. From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Thu May 26 15:50:56 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 16:50:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 48, Issue 85 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDECB40.4000306@sbcglobal.net> Jim, I agree with everything you said about PIK and aquifers, etc. except that the EPA does not make laws and does not push ethanol. Congress makes the laws and directs the EPA and other agencies to carry them out. In this case, the Ag lobby pushed Congress aggressively to require ethanol in our gas and subsidized the producers to provide it. BTW, this is the greatest government on earth and I proudly vote democratic. It was our former Rep. governor (MO) that gave his brother a huge sweetheart deal for an ethanol plant. His dad is now our newest US senator, Roy Blunt. Go figure. Lee On 5/26/2011 3:13 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:40:46 -0500 > From: Jim Johnson > Cc:spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good on ya, Mate. I live in Dodge City Kansas where if farming disappeared > tomorrow so would our city (wheat, corn& meat). However, this intimate > contact with the farm community allows me to see what PIK and other > subsidies have done. There are farmers out here who basically quit farming > years ago when they found that playing the government subsidy game was far > less work than actually growing much of anything. Not only less work, but > higher paying!! AND, in the case of corn, they are sucking up the last of > our most significant natural resource, water. > > We rely on the Ogallala Aquifer for water. Once the government accelerated > the ethanol fiasco, all these farmers turned to growing irrigated corn - not > as feed, but as a cash crop for the ethanol plants. Fine, you say? What if > it takes more water than you were thinking to make corn based ethanol? > > A study, published in the journal - Environmental Science and Technology and > the University of Minnesota found that as corn-based ethanol production > approximately doubled nationwide between 2005 and 2008, related water use > more than tripled. Since then it has continued to rise dramatically. In the > past several years, the water level in the aquifer here (where we grow most > of the nation's wheat and feed and raise most of its cattle) is dropping at > an alarming rate and many wells are going dry leaving the land a desert not > even capable of watering cattle. > > In short, corn based ethanol as pushed by the EPA is driving up the cost of > all foods, not just corn, while also depleting the aquifers at a staggering > rate. When that water is gone, it will take centuries to replenish and over > those centuries many people all over the world will starve to death for lack > of food. > > If you believe the EPA knew what it was doing, then you are naive. If EPA > believed it knew what it was doing then the law of unintended consequences > reins supreme. > > Cheers!! > Jim Vote democratic if you want more great government in your life. From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu May 26 15:57:27 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 16:57:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDECCC7.1070305@wi.net> Just an FWI, From the web site below: For those of you coming to the 50th. Plymouth WI is 5 miles south of Elkhart and has 2 ethanol free stations: *Plymouth* FLEET FARM *89 91 * Gas Mart 3110 Eastern Ave N43.74711 W87.94264 *Plymouth* KWIK TRIP *91 * Kwik Trip 2480 Eastern Avenue N43.74712 W87.95153 Thanks for reminding me of that site Corvallis! Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 5/25/2011 9:32 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> http://pure-gas.org/ > Great! There's one only 90 miles away. From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu May 26 16:02:14 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:02:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! Message-ID: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD04411CE@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Friends: I'm about to leave the office and never come back. So, I will be signing off for a spell...probably until I get back from the Rallye to Reno and the MG International 2011. Then I will busy myself assembling the Spridget motor for the 50th at Elkhart Lake and see some of you there, I hope. This gang has made my occasional off-task dalliances at work pretty entertaining. What a group!!! Cats, shotguns, music, farm subsidies, colonoscopies, and occasionally cars. If anybody lives along US Rte 50 (where I hope to be crossing the country between 6/4 and 6/12...and farther after 6/17, (like up the north coast) email me back at JOHNSFOLLY at GMAIL dot COM Hope to end the summer with the vintage races at Grattan in August, Lime Rock and Watkins Glen in September. Look for red "Works Tribute" Midget #49 with the white hardtop. Over and out for now! JohnD Raising donations for pediatric cancer driving a '52 MG TD on the Rallye to Reno! Read about it at: www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 26 16:16:15 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:16:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kirk, Ibm no Jaguar expert, but I would guess that 400 HP out of an old school 4.2 stroker motor might be pushing it a bit. I assume you meant they enlarged it to 4.3, but even with that small increase that is about double what they originally had. Without forced induction, thatbs a pretty big increase out of what was already a performance engine. I suppose itbs possible. And, yeah, I think the only possibility of the Cobras all getting beat was that they were all small blocks and not very highly modified. I find it hard to believe that a 289 oversquare V8 would not be able to develop a bunch more horsepower than a 250 or so undersquare straight 6. I think the Cobras were considerably lighter, as well. Though, in racing trim, who knows? Whatever the case, I will say that the early XKE convertible was one of the best looking cars ever made. Never cared much for the hardtops, though. There is an E-type that often races at Road America that is no slouch, but he isnbt giving many problems to big block Cobras or Corvettes. Larry From: Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:00 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway Larry, Well, one Cobra was in the lead for a bit until it broke down. This was the only breakdown in that race. . and that Cobra might have faired well had it not had mechanical issues. However, after that the Jag not only took the field, but it did so by a good margin. Yet with that said, Infineon has short straights with a lot of corners. Had it been a different track where the Cobras could have stretched out, it probably would have been a different story. My guess is that the Cobra's were all small block versions. . . Factory 5 type cars . . and by the sound and from what I saw, therefore none with 427's. I tried to find the company that campaigns this Jag (on the internet) but could not remember the name or find the same car. As I recall, they were claiming that it was putting out over 400 HP. . does this sound right for a 4.3 highly prepped engine with triple Webers, headers, higher compression heads, etc etc? If was for sure a fun experience watching a British car take and hold on to the lead as it did. Kirk On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: I still remember a couple of years ago watching an E Type Jag, straight 6, taking a field of V8 Cobra's as it made such wonderful sounds down the back straight. The track tends to favor cars that are quick in the corners. The driver's comment after the race, "They can't catch the Cat in the corners." This was a wonderfully prepped E-Type drop top that should be racing again this season. Here is a nice site showing some pics, first weekend in June, and such regarding: http://www.sonomauncorked.com/wine-country-events/annual-events/wine-countr y-classic-vintage-car-races/ Kirk _______________________________________________ Unless they were bone stock 260 or 289 Cobras and a highly modified Jag, I can only assume that those must have been some exceptionally poorly driven Cobras. From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu May 26 16:33:23 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:33:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 48, Issue 85 References: <4DDECB40.4000306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <25A80FA3EC93494B82A47CD117A6066A@personal> May Obama come to visit your house. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Fox" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 48, Issue 85 > Jim, > > I agree with everything you said about PIK and aquifers, etc. except that > the EPA does not make laws and does not push ethanol. Congress makes the > laws and directs the EPA and other agencies to carry them out. In this > case, the Ag lobby pushed Congress aggressively to require ethanol in our > gas and subsidized the producers to provide it. > > BTW, this is the greatest government on earth and I proudly vote > democratic. It was our former Rep. governor (MO) that gave his brother a > huge sweetheart deal for an ethanol plant. His dad is now our newest US > senator, Roy Blunt. Go figure. > > Lee > > On 5/26/2011 3:13 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:40:46 -0500 >> From: Jim Johnson >> Cc:spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??? >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Good on ya, Mate. I live in Dodge City Kansas where if farming >> disappeared >> tomorrow so would our city (wheat, corn& meat). However, this intimate >> contact with the farm community allows me to see what PIK and other >> subsidies have done. There are farmers out here who basically quit >> farming >> years ago when they found that playing the government subsidy game was >> far >> less work than actually growing much of anything. Not only less work, but >> higher paying!! AND, in the case of corn, they are sucking up the last >> of >> our most significant natural resource, water. >> >> We rely on the Ogallala Aquifer for water. Once the government >> accelerated >> the ethanol fiasco, all these farmers turned to growing irrigated corn - >> not >> as feed, but as a cash crop for the ethanol plants. Fine, you say? What >> if >> it takes more water than you were thinking to make corn based ethanol? >> >> A study, published in the journal - Environmental Science and Technology >> and >> the University of Minnesota found that as corn-based ethanol production >> approximately doubled nationwide between 2005 and 2008, related water use >> more than tripled. Since then it has continued to rise dramatically. In >> the >> past several years, the water level in the aquifer here (where we grow >> most >> of the nation's wheat and feed and raise most of its cattle) is dropping >> at >> an alarming rate and many wells are going dry leaving the land a desert >> not >> even capable of watering cattle. >> >> In short, corn based ethanol as pushed by the EPA is driving up the cost >> of >> all foods, not just corn, while also depleting the aquifers at a >> staggering >> rate. When that water is gone, it will take centuries to replenish and >> over >> those centuries many people all over the world will starve to death for >> lack >> of food. >> >> If you believe the EPA knew what it was doing, then you are naive. If EPA >> believed it knew what it was doing then the law of unintended >> consequences >> reins supreme. >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim Vote democratic if you want more great government in your life. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3661 - Release Date: 05/26/11 From pvanwig at me.com Thu May 26 16:53:30 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:53:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil Message-ID: <20CE5D31-7F91-4B54-8AF4-2F390F04D2AF@me.com> I just found this at my local independent auto parts store Hap's Auto Lakewood, CA http://classiccaroil.com/spec-sheet.html $27 for a five Qt Jug. 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From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 26 17:15:03 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <4DDEBBD2.2080907@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <1703952088.546993.1306451703650.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Mike, My eye automatically goes to Moggies http://bringatrailer.com/2011/05/20/bat-exclusive-lovely-1953-morgan-4-roadster/ (LARGE Donations accepted!) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour" Which Morgan ? where is a Morgan ? now that is a car I would not have to hide from the wife From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu May 26 18:38:57 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD04411CE@VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> Message-ID: <465876.45013.qm@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Godspeed, John! How many of us yearn for the day we can leave the office, shop, workplace and never return? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 5/26/11, Deikis, John G wrote: From: Deikis, John G Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 6:02 PM Friends: I'm about to leave the office and never come back. So, I will be signing off for a spell...probably until I get back from the Rallye to Reno and the MG International 2011. Then I will busy myself assembling the Spridget motor for the 50th at Elkhart Lake and see some of you there, I hope. This gang has made my occasional off-task dalliances at work pretty entertaining. What a group!!! Cats, shotguns, music, farm subsidies, colonoscopies, and occasionally cars. If anybody lives along US Rte 50 (where I hope to be crossing the country between 6/4 and 6/12...and farther after 6/17, (like up the north coast) email me back at JOHNSFOLLY at GMAIL dot COM Hope to end the summer with the vintage races at Grattan in August, Lime Rock and Watkins Glen in September. Look for red "Works Tribute" Midget #49 with the white hardtop. Over and out for now! JohnD Raising donations for pediatric cancer driving a '52 MG TD on the Rallye to Reno! Read about it at: www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu May 26 18:57:46 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 00:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: <465876.45013.qm@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1565491796.548044.1306457866055.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> In my case it was not a voluntary decision :( But I don't miss the political carp at work :) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" Godspeed, John! How many of us yearn for the day we can leave the office, shop, workplace and never return? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu May 26 18:59:56 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 19:59:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: <1565491796.548044.1306457866055.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1565491796.548044.1306457866055.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DDEF78C.8050903@tx.rr.com> In some ways I'm in an opposite situation- I have to go to work every day, I just don't get paid for it. > In my case it was not a voluntary decision :( > But I don't miss the political carp at work :) From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu May 26 19:24:48 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 01:24:48 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! Message-ID: John, The best of luck to you. Sound like you have a plan and are executing it. Most people wait too long. I had a forced separation from work (my boss took my job as the business downsized) with a non-compete. I spent 3 month traveling with my wife. It was great and taught me that I need to also take "play" seriously. Have fun!! Steve ------Original Message------ From: Deikis, John G Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! Sent: May 26, 2011 6:02 PM Friends: I'm about to leave the office and never come back. So, I will be signing off for a spell...probably until I get back from the Rallye to Reno and the MG International 2011. Then I will busy myself assembling the Spridget motor for the 50th at Elkhart Lake and see some of you there, I hope. This gang has made my occasional off-task dalliances at work pretty entertaining. What a group!!! Cats, shotguns, music, farm subsidies, colonoscopies, and occasionally cars. If anybody lives along US Rte 50 (where I hope to be crossing the country between 6/4 and 6/12...and farther after 6/17, (like up the north coast) email me back at JOHNSFOLLY at GMAIL dot COM Hope to end the summer with the vintage races at Grattan in August, Lime Rock and Watkins Glen in September. Look for red "Works Tribute" Midget #49 with the white hardtop. Over and out for now! JohnD Raising donations for pediatric cancer driving a '52 MG TD on the Rallye to Reno! Read about it at: www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From lists at dinospider.com Thu May 26 19:33:13 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:33:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh Message-ID: <4DDEFF59.8020605@dinospider.com> I am trying to clean up my 1098 and it would a lot easier on a engine stand, can this little motor be put on one ? I have a big boy engine stand and it was difficult lining the arms up and then I started thinking it might pull out those awfully small bolts or crack the block with too much stress. I am assuming I am being ridiculous but lets not break the brand new rebuilt motor while trying to paint it :) http://singer.rambour.com/stand/ like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu May 26 19:39:07 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 01:39:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 48, Issue 85 In-Reply-To: <4DDECB40.4000306@sbcglobal.net> References: <4DDECB40.4000306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: It is amazing that the ethanol story is not being told by anyone, not the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, Fox News, or CNN. Both the Republican and Democrates where afraid of Fannie Mae and we see where that got us. I think the same is true of the Ag lobby, all are afraid to go against them. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Lee Fox Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Thu, 26 May 2011 16:50:56 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 48, Issue 85 Jim, I agree with everything you said about PIK and aquifers, etc. except that the EPA does not make laws and does not push ethanol. Congress makes the laws and directs the EPA and other agencies to carry them out. In this case, the Ag lobby pushed Congress aggressively to require ethanol in our gas and subsidized the producers to provide it. BTW, this is the greatest government on earth and I proudly vote democratic. It was our former Rep. governor (MO) that gave his brother a huge sweetheart deal for an ethanol plant. His dad is now our newest US senator, Roy Blunt. Go figure. Lee On 5/26/2011 3:13 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:40:46 -0500 > From: Jim Johnson > Cc:spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good on ya, Mate. I live in Dodge City Kansas where if farming disappeared > tomorrow so would our city (wheat, corn& meat). However, this intimate > contact with the farm community allows me to see what PIK and other > subsidies have done. There are farmers out here who basically quit farming > years ago when they found that playing the government subsidy game was far > less work than actually growing much of anything. Not only less work, but > higher paying!! AND, in the case of corn, they are sucking up the last of > our most significant natural resource, water. > > We rely on the Ogallala Aquifer for water. Once the government accelerated > the ethanol fiasco, all these farmers turned to growing irrigated corn - not > as feed, but as a cash crop for the ethanol plants. Fine, you say? What if > it takes more water than you were thinking to make corn based ethanol? > > A study, published in the journal - Environmental Science and Technology and > the University of Minnesota found that as corn-based ethanol production > approximately doubled nationwide between 2005 and 2008, related water use > more than tripled. Since then it has continued to rise dramatically. In the > past several years, the water level in the aquifer here (where we grow most > of the nation's wheat and feed and raise most of its cattle) is dropping at > an alarming rate and many wells are going dry leaving the land a desert not > even capable of watering cattle. > > In short, corn based ethanol as pushed by the EPA is driving up the cost of > all foods, not just corn, while also depleting the aquifers at a staggering > rate. When that water is gone, it will take centuries to replenish and over > those centuries many people all over the world will starve to death for lack > of food. > > If you believe the EPA knew what it was doing, then you are naive. If EPA > believed it knew what it was doing then the law of unintended consequences > reins supreme. > > Cheers!! > Jim Vote democratic if you want more great government in your life. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Thu May 26 19:52:16 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 01:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <4DDEFF59.8020605@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <42504131.941384.1306461136142.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I don't know exactly about a 1098, but I rebuilt my 1275 mounted on an engine stand.B Did just fine. --David C. "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour" To: "spridgets list" Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:33:13 PM Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh B B I am trying to clean up my 1098 and it would a lot easier on a engine stand, can this little motor be put on one ? I have a big boy engine stand and it was difficult lining the arms up and then I started thinking it might pull out those awfully small bolts or crack the block with too much stress. B B I am assuming I am being ridiculous but lets not break the brand new rebuilt motor while trying to paint it :) http://singer.rambour.com/stand/ B B like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Thu May 26 20:41:54 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 21:41:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDF0F72.6070207@sbcglobal.net> John, Be sure to come to the reception the St. Louis MG Club is hosting for the Rallye to Reno folks on Monday, June 6 at the Dubliner in St. Louis. Look me up. I'll have a name badge and yellow Midget. I'll buy you a pint and we can actually talk cars. Same goes for anyone else driving the Rallye to Reno. Lee On 5/26/2011 5:33 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:02:14 -0400 > From: "Deikis, John G" > To: > Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! > Message-ID: > <672B9CE552D34343B2780A6CC3AD4DD04411CE at VHAV11MSGB1.v11.med.va.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Friends: > > I'm about to leave the office and never come back. > > So, I will be signing off for a spell...probably until I get back from > the Rallye to Reno and the MG International 2011. Then I will busy > myself assembling the Spridget motor for the 50th at Elkhart Lake and > see some of you there, I hope. This gang has made my occasional off-task > dalliances at work pretty entertaining. What a group!!! Cats, shotguns, > music, farm subsidies, colonoscopies, and occasionally cars. > > If anybody lives along US Rte 50 (where I hope to be crossing the > country between 6/4 and 6/12...and farther after 6/17, (like up the > north coast) email me back at JOHNSFOLLY at GMAIL dot COM > > Hope to end the summer with the vintage races at Grattan in August, Lime > Rock and Watkins Glen in September. Look for red "Works Tribute" Midget > #49 with the white hardtop. > > Over and out for now! > > JohnD > > Raising donations for pediatric cancer driving a '52 MG TD on the Rallye > to Reno! > > Read about it at: > > www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu May 26 21:36:33 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 22:36:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: <20110527014134.21CFF18766E@autox.team.net> References: <20110527014134.21CFF18766E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4DDF1C41.20702@tx.rr.com> There is something to be said for that. I've known people who worked past retirement age, finally retired, and then died. I've also known people that died right before their retirement age. You never know how much time you have left so you have to take advantage of the time you have now. My father is over 80 and still goes to his job. He doesn't really do any hard work, but that is what he chooses to do. He doesn't have hobbies like I have so he could either sit at home and watch TV, or go to his shop and be able to visit with lots of other people during the day, so it is actually better for him to go to work. I could quit work now and have plenty of things to do, as long as I could figure out how to pay for it. I'll have to keep working for awhile longer in order to try to afford to retire. > Most people wait too long. I had a forced separation from work (my boss took my job as the business downsized) with a non-compete. I spent 3 month traveling with my wife. It was great and taught me that I need to also take "play" seriously. From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu May 26 22:22:24 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 21:22:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! Message-ID: <1126770.1306470144960.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I decided to pull the pin and take an "early retirement" in the early 1990's. Like so many others I have talked to, I was never busier in my many chequered career than I have been since retiring. I simply do not have enough hours in a day to get everything done that *needs* to be done. My "To Do" list is twice as long as it used to be, and some of them have been on that list for over a year! I sometimes think that I would have been better off NOT retiring! Buster Evans From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 26 22:26:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 00:26:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool UK site with Sprites from friends Message-ID: Cool link I got from my UK Spridget friends, http://pete-moore.co.uk/ Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 26 22:37:07 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 00:37:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me.... In-Reply-To: <201105260823314.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105260713301.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <201105260823314.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I like the heading: Worlds Ugliest Spridget? Warning, eye damage may result Lin On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 09:13 AM 5/26/2011, Peter Caldwell wrote: > >> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?3,1762058 >> > > I think it needs a ground up restoration....... > > ........... hey Bob, start the shredder! > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Thu May 26 22:37:20 2011 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 21:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <4DDEFF59.8020605@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <505651.36899.qm@web114715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Mike, There is a drawing floating around of an easily fabricated adapter that bolts to the generator mounts on the side of the engine, basically it is the bit that bolts to the generator mounts, welded to a 2 inch x 2 foot tube, which replaces the tube and mounting hardware on your stand. Someone will have the drawing, or it is on the web somewhere. it is a great way to work on your A-series. Andy --- On Fri, 27/5/11, Mike Rambour wrote: From: Mike Rambour Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh To: "spridgets list" Received: Friday, 27 May, 2011, 11:33 AM I am trying to clean up my 1098 and it would a lot easier on a engine stand, can this little motor be put on one ? I have a big boy engine stand and it was difficult lining the arms up and then I started thinking it might pull out those awfully small bolts or crack the block with too much stress. I am assuming I am being ridiculous but lets not break the brand new rebuilt motor while trying to paint it :) http://singer.rambour.com/stand/ like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 26 22:40:11 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 00:40:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Cool_Speedwell_in_one_of_my_favorite_c?= =?iso-8859-1?q?olours_only_=A320=2C000_=3A_=29?= In-Reply-To: <305448.55720.qm@web161208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <305448.55720.qm@web161208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rick I have that bookmarked but wouldn't open from work. I like the new body shell for sale ) Lin On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:54 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > My guess is they use a bonding adhesive. Here's a link to the parts: > http://www.sebringsprite.com/price_list.htm and here are some cars under > construction: http://www.sebringsprite.com/replica.htm > > > Rick > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On *Thu, 5/26/11, Linda Grunthaner * wrote: > > > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool Speedwell in one of my favorite colours only > #20,000 : ) > To: "HealeyRick" > Cc: "Spridgets" , "Jay" > Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 6:25 AM > > > So how did they attach the seams on that Archers hood (top) being it is > fiberglass to metal? Wouldn't that seam crack with flex? I not only like the > color but would love a hardtop version Sprite too : ) > Lin > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:02 PM, HealeyRick > > wrote: > > Agreed. Not a Speedwell, but probably a solid US MkI converted with > Archer's > Garage Speedwell parts. Still enough, a wonderful color and depending on > the > state of tune of the 948, possibly worth the price. Panel fit isn't > optimal > and I think its best value would be based on how you could slot it in as a > vintage racer on either side of the pond. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 26 22:45:34 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 00:45:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <563048.64640.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> <563048.64640.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chuck I wish you called my cell. I didn't know you and Maryann were there. : ( Lin On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:19 AM, charles christ wrote: > the show was very hectic on saturday for us. we arived friday night in > the > '67 2 stroke street saab and ended staying up untill 2:30an saturday > morning > with a friend we race with up on the hill in our race > trailer. saturday morning > we arived on the show field and we were converged > upon by saabistas wanting to > see the '60 93f race car and about a thousand > questions folowed. as much as i > tried to get away mary anne & i did not > get to the swap meet until sunday > morning. by then many vendors had left. > funny what people abandon when they > leave. in someone's discarded junk , i > picked up 2 front spridget shocks and > an upper trunion , along with a > throttle cable. yeah i brought all that stuff > home....we had a great time > and i'm still very sore and my neck is sun burned! > > central penn saab club > came here and towed our race car in the trailer out to > carlisle and as of > last night returned the trailer home for us. our tow > vehicle's trans needs > to be rebuilt or we would have towed it. central penn > saab club did a > wonderfull job with all their activities and meals. > > we missed gathering > staurday for lunch with evryone. that bothered me. but > it was very > hectic with two cars on the show field. > weather? pennsylrainia? this was > about the best remembered year weather > wise. vehicle attendance was > impressive too! we are planning to be back next > year with the bugeye and a > saab (not certain which one)! > > chuck > It was great seeing those off the list > that stopped by. > Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy > rain and some > lightning nearby > Saturday made up for it to some extent. > Itbs > always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and > how much > of each > Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs > dwindling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well > attended. > But always great talking parts and cars and deals > Alan > _______________________________________________ > ________________________________ > > From: alan > To: list > > Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 8:49:49 PM > Subject: > [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 27 00:35:07 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 01:35:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <505651.36899.qm@web114715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4DDEFF59.8020605@dinospider.com> <505651.36899.qm@web114715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Mike, I use a El Cheapo Horrible Fright engine stand. You have to horse things around a bit get it in there but it does work. My Midget's 1275 is hanging on it right now. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Andy Webster wrote: > Hi Mike, > There is a drawing floating around of an easily fabricated adapter that > bolts > to the generator mounts on the side of the engine, > basically it is the bit that bolts to the generator mounts, welded to a 2 > inch > x 2 foot tube, which replaces the tube and mounting hardware on your stand. > Someone will have the drawing, or it is on the web somewhere. > > it is a great way to work on your A-series. > > Andy > > --- On Fri, 27/5/11, Mike Rambour wrote: > > > From: Mike Rambour > Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh > To: "spridgets list" > Received: Friday, 27 May, 2011, 11:33 AM > > > I am trying to clean up my 1098 and it would a lot easier on a engine > stand, > can this little motor be put on one ? I have a big boy engine stand and it > was > difficult lining the arms up and then I started thinking it might pull out > those awfully small bolts or crack the block with too much stress. > > I am assuming I am being ridiculous but lets not break the brand new > rebuilt > motor while trying to paint it :) > > http://singer.rambour.com/stand/ > > like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Fri May 27 02:54:06 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:54:06 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) Message-ID: Ref the $500 rusty ebay car with a boot lid aperture I was quite inerested in the grille , it appears to be recessed into the bonnet rather than having the top edge curling over the grille aperture and having the pointy arrow shaped feature central ., Was this a period accessory, a racers mod, or a feature perculiar to the US bugeyes , ie no sharp bits on external surfaces , I did save a photo of the grille on my other (read home) pc if anyone one cares to explain,. Regards Alan Warwick UK From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 04:04:15 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:04:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Good deal on eBay Bugeye Message-ID: List, Wow what a good deal on a Bugeye on eBay. Buy now $3000. complete with title all parts and running motor. *http://tinyurl.com/3myy3uq Lin * From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 04:10:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:10:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow Alan I missed that grill change. I really hope who ever wins this Bugeye can do some research on it to get the history on it and restore it to its original state what ever that may be. I personally believe what Frank said after a discussion on it many years ago that it is the real deal a prototype from Geoffrey Healey. : ) Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:54 AM, EASTJONES alan < alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote: > Ref the $500 rusty ebay car with a boot lid aperture > I was quite inerested in the grille , it appears to be recessed into the > bonnet rather than having the top edge curling over the grille aperture > and > having the pointy arrow shaped feature central ., > Was this a period accessory, a racers mod, or a feature perculiar to the US > bugeyes , ie no sharp bits on external surfaces , > I did save a photo of the grille on my other (read home) pc if anyone one > cares to explain,. > Regards > Alan > Warwick UK > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 04:26:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:26:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) Message-ID: OMG check out this eBay Bugeye's home made rear bumper "frightening". Wonder what car that bumper is from. *http://tinyurl.com/3ulko2z Lin * From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri May 27 05:13:06 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:13:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They look like later Spridget bumpers, with badge bars attached. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > OMG check out this eBay Bugeye's home made rear bumper "frightening". > Wonder > what car that bumper is from. > > *http://tinyurl.com/3ulko2z > > Lin > * > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Fri May 27 05:59:04 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 07:59:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201105271159.p4RBxuKd004802@mail.usimperio.com> The best deterrent is moth crystals sprinkled around on the floor around the car. The mice won't go near the stuff. You can use mothballs but you have to be careful walking around on them. Dave At 10:23 AM 5/26/2011, you wrote: >I know there are numerous poisons and traps on the market but I need >to get the >collective advice wisdom of the list on this. > >Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. > >I have always used D-Con which the little creatures devour (as well >as transport >in quantity to shelves and other clandestine areas. > >I have double seals on the bottom of my garage doors. > >What the h*ll can I do to eliminate this problem? > > jay fishbein >wallingford, ct From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri May 27 06:17:44 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 05:17:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <201105271159.p4RBxuKd004802@mail.usimperio.com> References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105271159.p4RBxuKd004802@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: What he said. ...bill in corvallis ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Yealy Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 4:59 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse The best deterrent is moth crystals sprinkled around on the floor around the car. The mice won't go near the stuff. You can use mothballs but you have to be careful walking around on them. Dave From refisk at chartermi.net Fri May 27 06:45:21 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:45:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5404B477-4C58-47CC-B0C8-79029072C341@chartermi.net> That's a homemade "continental" kit. He mentions in the text that the spare tire bolts to the back of type car. Rick Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > OMG check out this eBay Bugeye's home made rear bumper "frightening". Wonder > what car that bumper is from. > > *http://tinyurl.com/3ulko2z > > Lin From refisk at chartermi.net Fri May 27 06:47:02 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:47:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDF4EC5-F038-4CF3-A8DA-9DBF06AB5FC3@chartermi.net> Someone simply cut the upper lip off. I have a grill for my Bugeye that's been modified the same way. Rick Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2011, at 4:54 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote: > Ref the $500 rusty ebay car with a boot lid aperture > I was quite inerested in the grille , it appears to be recessed into the > bonnet rather than having the top edge curling over the grille aperture and > having the pointy arrow shaped feature central ., > Was this a period accessory, a racers mod, or a feature perculiar to the US > bugeyes , ie no sharp bits on external surfaces , > I did save a photo of the grille on my other (read home) pc if anyone one > cares to explain,. > Regards > Alan > Warwick UK From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri May 27 06:52:42 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:52:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have seen that style grill on bugeye pictures before. I wanted one like that but could not find it. Ended up making a grill instead. I guess you could cut the standard grill to just fit inside? Steve On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:54 AM, EASTJONES alan < alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote: > Ref the $500 rusty ebay car with a boot lid aperture > I was quite inerested in the grille , it appears to be recessed into the > bonnet rather than having the top edge curling over the grille aperture > and > having the pointy arrow shaped feature central ., > Was this a period accessory, a racers mod, or a feature perculiar to the US > bugeyes , ie no sharp bits on external surfaces , > I did save a photo of the grille on my other (read home) pc if anyone one > cares to explain,. > Regards > Alan > Warwick UK > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From refisk at chartermi.net Fri May 27 06:52:54 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:52:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105271159.p4RBxuKd004802@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: Another product that works for me is fabric softener dryer sheets. You simply place a few sheets in the trunk, a few under the bonnet, and a few more on the floor mats in the cockpit. I store a couple of cars in a building on a farm and have never had a rodent or insect problem. And they smell a whole bunch better than mothballs. Rick Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2011, at 8:17 AM, wrote: > What he said. ...bill in corvallis > ===================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Yealy > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 4:59 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse > > The best deterrent is moth crystals sprinkled around on the floor > around the car. The mice won't go near the stuff. > You can use mothballs but you have to be careful walking around on them. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ From bkitterer at me.com Fri May 27 07:21:13 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:21:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Small Detour to Car NC Message-ID: <5F4C80C1-7564-4712-B21E-9071C5F8763B@me.com> Hi Folks Decided to take a small detour -- Our Grandson, Scottys baseball team, Sonoma Seawolves from Sonoma State University is playing in Cary, NC on Sunday and since we are so close, we decided that we just have to be there. This is their World Series and a once in a life time event, particularly since he is a freshman. We will be here for the weekend if there is anyone around that has time for a quick get togather. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 27 07:27:45 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:27:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: <1126770.1306470144960.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1126770.1306470144960.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <77EB8F5BA21C45C8B2B2D85830D5CA8F@Home> I also got forced into early retirement by downsizing, so I took up Spridgeteering, restoring a car similar to the one my wife and I dated in 43 years ago. Without that, I would never have encountered this group, particularly Frank and the OSHITers. And I would not have encountered my crusty mechanic/tutor, who made me a fair backyard LBC mechanic from scratch. I was feeling pretty low, and developed back troubles, which knocked me even lower. These people restored my faith in humanity, a rare commodity in "The Big City." Thanks, Michael Rowe From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 07:45:11 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:45:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports Message-ID: I received the July 2011 issue of Classic Motorsports yesterday and Frank's obit is on page 12. Big thanks to Dave Woerpel for his nice writeup. Dave, you captured the essence of what we all are thinking. It's a shame because I am absolutely certain we could fill an entire issue with stories and pictures of Frank, events he attended, his projects, and the projects he helped us all with. It might be two issues. The pic is the one I took. I only have a small .jpg of it, but if anyone wants it, just let me know. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 27 07:51:15 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:51:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: References: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105271159.p4RBxuKd004802@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <4BBF4B0A6D704F9CB16DEAEC6290261E@Home> > The best deterrent is moth crystals sprinkled around on the floor around > the car. Yeah, but then your car will smell like a Chinese grandmother. What will Frank think? Michael Rowe From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 27 08:12:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDFB14B.9060708@justbrits.com> If it's not one Frankie & I have, PLZ SEND it, Allen !! << I only have a small .jpg of it, but if anyone wants it, just let me know. >> And for everybody else: << It's a shame because I am absolutely certain we could fill an entire issue with stories and pictures of Frank, events he attended, his projects, and the projects he helped us all with. >> BUT, PLEASE ask for some simple Instructions PRIOR to send pics !!!!! From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 08:30:54 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:30:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can scan it, but I am at work now. We only have feeder scanners and I am not ripping a page out of my mag! I will scan it tonight and find someplace to put it on the 'net. Unless somebody beats me to it. BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it from extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of comments on this list. Plus, you get a free T-shirt and a very nice wall calendar every year. http://classicmotorsports.net is the URL. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Any way you could scan it, and post it to those that don't subscribe? > > Thank you Allen, > Brad > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> I received the July 2011 issue of Classic Motorsports yesterday and >> Frank's >> obit is on page 12. >> >> Big thanks to Dave Woerpel for his nice writeup. Dave, you captured the >> essence of what we all are thinking. It's a shame because I am absolutely >> certain we could fill an entire issue with stories and pictures of Frank, >> events he attended, his projects, and the projects he helped us all with. >> It might be two issues. >> The pic is the one I took. I only have a small .jpg of it, but if anyone >> wants it, just let me know. >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA >> >> *Current:* >> 2006 Chebbie >> *Former:* >> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >> 1964 VW Type I >> 1967 VW Type II >> 1967 Rover 2000TC >> 1977 MG Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 27 08:40:18 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:40:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DDFB7D2.9060404@justbrits.com> << OMG check out this eBay Bugeye's home made rear bumper "frightening". Wonder what car thatrom. *http://tinyurl.com/3ulko2z >> IIRC, J.C. Whitney !! Yo JD, a "project" AT yer back door [ for winter ? ] !!!!!! Anon ! PS: After all, AFTER Reno & back then just a couple races = BOREDOM !!! From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 27 08:47:29 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 07:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <238740.82696.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Too bad we're not closer, I could come by and rip it out for you. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Allen Hefner I can scan it, but I am at work now. We only have feeder scanners and I am not ripping a page out of my mag! From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri May 27 08:48:55 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Verified CC Scam in the wild again! Message-ID: <1225854280.553593.1306507735155.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/creditcard.asp -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Fri May 27 08:52:16 2011 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <831365.88051.qm@web39310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Early 60s VW Bug bumpers ? --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) To: "Spridget list" Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 5:26 AM OMG check out this eBay Bugeye's home made rear bumper "frightening". Wonder what car that bumper is from. *http://tinyurl.com/3ulko2z Lin * Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/redmidget72 at yahoo.com From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 27 08:54:42 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:54:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 09:30 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: >BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was >formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it from >extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, >even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of comments on >this list. ======================= Well... it has great shox, anyway. Hemming's mag is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mo' better Peter C From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 09:29:26 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:29:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Yeah, but do you get a T-shirt and a calendar? Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 09:30 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was >> formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it >> from >> extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, >> even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of comments >> on >> this list. >> > ======================= > Well... it has great shox, anyway. > > Hemming's mag is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mo' better > > Peter C _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 27 09:29:26 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:29:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8086318390807440590@unknownmsgid> > BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was > formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it from OTOH, some of us miss Gary Anderson and don't care much for the Tim S attitude. In fact, if one of you has never seen the rag, email me your snail address and I will gift some undeserving soul the remainder of the subscription I have been meaning to cancel. I greatly prefer Hemmings' "Sports & Exotic Cars". David L From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 09:35:19 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:35:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like the backup light. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > OMG check out this eBay Bugeye's home made rear bumper "frightening". > Wonder > what car that bumper is from. > > *http://tinyurl.com/3ulko2z > > Lin > * > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 27 09:47:15 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:47:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: <799315.65314.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. Just a regular .22 short is more than adequate, but try not to hit the car. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 27 09:49:15 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:49:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: <86f32.3bf4b7eb.3b0fe069@aol.com> Message-ID: > Maybe they want you to buy a new car? Then they should offer something more interesting. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 27 09:51:03 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:51:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Diaper In-Reply-To: <002e01cc1bcc$4c8d78c0$e5a86a40$@com> Message-ID: > located in Santa Ana, CA That's less than two miles from here. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 10:02:20 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 12:02:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <8086318390807440590@unknownmsgid> References: <8086318390807440590@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: That's maybe a little harsh, Dave, but you are allowed to have your opinion. I remember Brit Car mag very well, and also think Gary did a good job with it, but there is no question it was just a bit too narrow of a market and it was failing. It would serve nobody if it weren't there at all. I was also skeptickle about the guy who ran Grassroots Motorsports taking over a mag about LBCs. The truth is that he loves LBCs at least as much as all the other cars in his mags. The way I look at it, Suddard saved Brt Car mag by changing the name and adding more articles about other classic cars. I love cars...period. There is always something about LBCs in every issue of CM. Plus, he is bringing the love of old cars to a younger generation. If there are more people interested in them, they will be around longer, and that's good for everybody. (Just my two pence.) Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was > > formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it > from > > OTOH, some of us miss Gary Anderson and don't care much for the Tim S > attitude. In fact, if one of you has never seen the rag, email me your > snail address and I will gift some undeserving soul the remainder of > the subscription I have been meaning to cancel. I greatly prefer > Hemmings' "Sports & Exotic Cars". > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri May 27 10:09:02 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:09:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! Message-ID: <27420786.1306512542516.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 27 10:19:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:19:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: <77EB8F5BA21C45C8B2B2D85830D5CA8F@Home> References: <1126770.1306470144960.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <77EB8F5BA21C45C8B2B2D85830D5CA8F@Home> Message-ID: And let me say that it was a pleasure getting to know you while working on the Holy Sprite, Michael. Glad to know your faith has been restored! People are truly the nicest people around! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I also got forced into early retirement by downsizing, so I took up > Spridgeteering, restoring a car similar to the one my wife and I dated in 43 > years ago. Without that, I would never have encountered this group, > particularly Frank and the OSHITers. And I would not have encountered my > crusty mechanic/tutor, who made me a fair backyard LBC mechanic from > scratch. > > I was feeling pretty low, and developed back troubles, which knocked me > even lower. These people restored my faith in humanity, a rare commodity in > "The Big City." > > Thanks, > Michael Rowe > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri May 27 10:21:11 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:21:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) References: Message-ID: Back in the day we all cut our grills so they fit inside the lip. Hay, it was the thing to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Guterman" To: "EASTJONES alan" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) >I have seen that style grill on bugeye pictures before. I wanted one like > that but could not find it. Ended up making a grill instead. I guess you > could cut the standard grill to just fit inside? > > Steve > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:54 AM, EASTJONES alan < > alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Ref the $500 rusty ebay car with a boot lid aperture >> I was quite inerested in the grille , it appears to be recessed into the >> bonnet rather than having the top edge curling over the grille aperture >> and >> having the pointy arrow shaped feature central ., >> Was this a period accessory, a racers mod, or a feature perculiar to the >> US >> bugeyes , ie no sharp bits on external surfaces , >> I did save a photo of the grille on my other (read home) pc if anyone >> one >> cares to explain,. >> Regards >> Alan >> Warwick UK >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3661 - Release Date: 05/26/11 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 27 10:23:25 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:23:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <4DDEFF59.8020605@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Make a bracket to attach to the side of the block using the generator mounting holes. There are a number of pictures on the internet. From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 27 10:53:47 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <201105270953215.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> CM sends me one every year, wooing me, I think, or it's a BMTA thing. Look at the Hemmings some time. Peter At 10:29 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: >Yeah, but do you get a T-shirt and a calendar? > > Allen Hefner > > >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > > > At 09:30 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > >> BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was > >> formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it > >> from > >> extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, > >> even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of comments > >> on > >> this list. > >> > > ======================= > > Well... it has great shox, anyway. > > > > Hemming's mag is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mo' better > > > > Peter C _______________________________________________ From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 27 10:58:54 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <374159.39536.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> So you were inspired by the factory prototype. jay ________________________________ From: Jack Laird Back in the day we all cut our grills so they fit inside the lip. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 27 11:01:15 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:01:15 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Wireless Mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110527170115.JVEG0.24396.root@cdptpa-web09-z01> I took out quite a few of the big ones with a low powered pellet pistol, including one setting on the lid of our toilet. My Siberian Husky got almost that many and I got quite a few with the jumbo sized spring traps. We got about 24 in all, and these weren't the little ones, these were the 12"+ ones. One of my friends that lived a couple of miles away said he saw a big one running along the electric wires behind his house and got it with a .357 magnum. He never said how his neighbors reacted to the noise. > > Mice got into my 2010 Mini Cooper and ate the wiring. $600 worth of wiring. > Just a regular .22 short is more than adequate, but try not to hit the car. From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Fri May 27 11:30:05 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:30:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50 UK style Message-ID: Midget 50 our website in the UK http://www.midget50.com/ Can't beat the setting , on 12th June 2011 The British Motor Heritage museum at Gaydon was great for the Spridget 50 in 2008, this is a little further away from Warwick (70 miles or so) but I have bought my ticket , entered the rocker box race and am just praying for nice sunny weather. I wish I could get to the U.S gathering too. Are they having one in OZ or NZ ? Alan Warwick UK 1958 Frogeye __________________________________ Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com/get From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Fri May 27 11:30:05 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:30:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50 UK style Message-ID: Midget 50 our website in the UK http://www.midget50.com/ Can't beat the setting , on 12th June 2011 The British Motor Heritage museum at Gaydon was great for the Spridget 50 in 2008, this is a little further away from Warwick (70 miles or so) but I have bought my ticket , entered the rocker box race and am just praying for nice sunny weather. I wish I could get to the U.S gathering too. Are they having one in OZ or NZ ? Alan Warwick UK 1958 Frogeye __________________________________ Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com/get From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Fri May 27 11:30:05 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:30:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50 UK style Message-ID: Midget 50 our website in the UK http://www.midget50.com/ Can't beat the setting , on 12th June 2011 The British Motor Heritage museum at Gaydon was great for the Spridget 50 in 2008, this is a little further away from Warwick (70 miles or so) but I have bought my ticket , entered the rocker box race and am just praying for nice sunny weather. I wish I could get to the U.S gathering too. Are they having one in OZ or NZ ? Alan Warwick UK 1958 Frogeye __________________________________ Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com/get From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 27 12:26:08 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway Message-ID: <45083.42537fea.3b1146c0@aol.com> Me neither though I worked Saturdays (I was still at school) at a garage that had the fastest XK Jag in the UK and I don't think they claimed 400bhp for it. You can get some really big valves in the XK head, a lot of portwork and high dome pistons, and a really radical cam and not have have 400bhp. The XK engine never really revs so I guess you gain more mid range power / a flat plateau power band and torque. Most racing XK engines run triple DCOEs. In the UK I've yet to see a Cobra do well at the race track and I've never understand why they aren't quicker. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/05/2011 23:44:06 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Kirk, Ibm no Jaguar expert, but I would guess that 400 HP out of an old school 4.2 stroker motor might be pushing it a bit. I assume you meant they enlarged it to 4.3, but even with that small increase that is about double what they originally had. Without forced induction, thatbs a pretty big increase out of what was already a performance engine. I suppose itbs possible. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 27 12:28:24 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh Message-ID: <45260.25f6e833.3b114748@aol.com> Nope, no such thing as a dumb question, just an opportunity to learn. In a message dated 27/05/2011 03:13:10 GMT Daylight Time, dlancer7676 at comcast.net writes: B B like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 27 12:39:43 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports Message-ID: <45ab4.2ba18cd0.3b1149ef@aol.com> I was going to keep quiet but will agree with David. I was an occasional contributor to British Car though never met Gary Anderson (or the previous owners of the magazine). On the other hand Tim S never replied to my e-mails and I even met him face to face (duh, that's it I met Tim?). Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 27/05/2011 16:48:57 GMT Daylight Time, 72spridget at gmail.com writes: OTOH, some of us miss Gary Anderson and don't care much for the Tim S attitude. In fact, if one of you has never seen the rag, email me your snail address and I will gift some undeserving soul the remainder of the subscription I have been meaning to cancel. I greatly prefer Hemmings' "Sports & Exotic Cars". David L From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri May 27 12:40:30 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:40:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Verified CC Scam in the wild again! In-Reply-To: <1225854280.553593.1306507735155.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1225854280.553593.1306507735155.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: if you get such a call, ask for a return 800 number to call, so that you know you are talking to the CC company. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/creditcard.asp > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri May 27 12:43:35 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:43:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Larry, The track had a lot to do with this due to the many turns and very short straights. On any other track I think the outcome would have been different. I plan to be there at the next event coming up and might be able to video the same race with a high def video camera that I use which uses two condenser mics in a stereo position for sound . . the thing gets such excellent results. . both with the sound as well as the high def videos. I thought that the stock 3.8 later developed into a 4.3 . . but with my memory of such things. . what do I know? Thanks, Kirk On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Kirk, Im no Jaguar expert, but I would guess that 400 HP out of an old > school 4.2 stroker motor might be pushing it a bit. I assume you meant they > enlarged it to 4.3, but even with that small increase that is about double > what they originally had. Without forced induction, thats a pretty big > increase out of what was already a performance engine. I suppose its > possible. > > And, yeah, I think the only possibility of the Cobras all getting beat was > that they were all small blocks and not very highly modified. I find it > hard to believe that a 289 oversquare V8 would not be able to develop a > bunch more horsepower than a 250 or so undersquare straight 6. I think the > Cobras were considerably lighter, as well. Though, in racing trim, who > knows? > > Whatever the case, I will say that the early XKE convertible was one of the > best looking cars ever made. Never cared much for the hardtops, though. > > There is an E-type that often races at Road America that is no slouch, but > he isnt giving many problems to big block Cobras or Corvettes. > > Larry > > > > > *From:* Kirk Hargreaves > *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:00 PM > *To:* Larry Daniels > *Cc:* spridgets at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Wine Country Classic Sonoma Infineon Raceway > > Larry, > > > Well, one Cobra was in the lead for a bit until it broke down. This was > the only breakdown in that race. . and that Cobra might have faired well > had it not had mechanical issues. However, after that the Jag not only took > the field, but it did so by a good margin. Yet with that said, Infineon has > short straights with a lot of corners. Had it been a different track where > the Cobras could have stretched out, it probably would have been a different > story. > > My guess is that the Cobra's were all small block versions. . . Factory 5 > type cars . . and by the sound and from what I saw, therefore none with > 427's. > > I tried to find the company that campaigns this Jag (on the internet) but > could not remember the name or find the same car. > > As I recall, they were claiming that it was putting out over 400 HP. . > does this sound right for a 4.3 highly prepped engine with triple Webers, > headers, higher compression heads, etc etc? > > If was for sure a fun experience watching a British car take and hold on to > the lead as it did. > > > Kirk > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > >> >> >> I still remember a couple of years ago watching an E Type Jag, straight 6, >> taking a field of V8 Cobra's as it made such wonderful sounds down the >> back >> straight. The track tends to favor cars that are quick in the corners. >> The >> driver's comment after the race, "They can't catch the Cat in the >> corners." >> This was a wonderfully prepped E-Type drop top that should be racing again >> this season. >> >> Here is a nice site showing some pics, first weekend in June, and such >> regarding: >> >> >> http://www.sonomauncorked.com/wine-country-events/annual-events/wine-country- classic-vintage-car-races/ >> >> Kirk >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Unless they were bone stock 260 or 289 Cobras and a highly modified Jag, I >> can only assume that those must have been some exceptionally poorly driven >> Cobras. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri May 27 12:47:48 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:47:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Verified CC Scam in the wild again! In-Reply-To: References: <1225854280.553593.1306507735155.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: ...and a name and extension # Gerard On May 27, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > if you get such a call, ask for a return 800 number to call, so that > you know you are talking to the CC company. > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Dave KK7SS > wrote: > http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/creditcard.asp > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > 9issa mailing list > 9issa at box267.bluehost.com > http://box267.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/9issa_justbrits.com > http://www.justbrits.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 27 12:52:13 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:52:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50 UK style In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wish you could join us too, Alan!! While several others (MG2011..etc) are also celebrating the Midget 50th they include many other models and makes. Only the event at Road America in Wisconsin is dedicated to Spridget owners/enthusiasts! It is July 18-22, 2011... Info at the Sprite-Midget Club USA website: Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Alan wrote: > Midget 50 > our website in the UK http://www.midget50.com/ > > Can't beat the setting , on 12th June 2011 > The British Motor Heritage museum at Gaydon was great for the Spridget > 50 in 2008, this is a little further away from Warwick (70 miles or so) > but I have bought my ticket , entered the rocker box race and am just > praying for nice sunny weather. > I wish I could get to the U.S gathering too. Are they having one in OZ > or NZ ? > Alan > Warwick UK > 1958 Frogeye From ah3000me at gmail.com Fri May 27 12:56:35 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:56:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like corn, too. But not in my beer. Just malt, yeast, and hops, please. Seriously: write your senators. Go to http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm , pick your state and you'll get links to write to both of them. Write your representative: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml Plug in your state and zip, and your message automagically gets sent to the correct person. - Tom On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:53 PM, derf wrote: > Ethanol lased gas absorbs water like crazy. I like corn, just not in > my fuel tank. > In my experience Ethanol is not selective, it ruins old and new hoses. > It terrorizes 2-stroke outboards that are sensitive to lean > conditions. I dunno if the fuel/oil/ethanol mix is any worse than > just fuel/ethanol but in my experience two stroke engines are more > prone to ethanol based problems. > I prefer sugar to high fructose corn syrup, too. > Sorry, nothing personal. Corn on the cob is awesome. I make a mean > corn casserole. Popcorn is awesome. > I'll pass on the corn whiskey and would like to pass on the Ethanol. > > BTW, I'm buying my Ethanol in a region with generally high humidity. > On some days I can pour a cup of gasahol in a cup and within 10 > minutes it will be so cloudy with absorbed moisture that you can no > longer see through it. From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 27 13:19:50 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 12:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <510980.61620.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Real Mexican beer is corn based. jay ________________________________ From: Tom To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 2:56:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! I like corn, too. But not in my beer. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri May 27 13:30:42 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:30:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol??!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110527193042.GQK1O.165557.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> WHEAT! > I like corn, too. But not in my beer. Just malt, yeast, and hops, please. From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 13:45:45 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:45:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <45ab4.2ba18cd0.3b1149ef@aol.com> References: <45ab4.2ba18cd0.3b1149ef@aol.com> Message-ID: Allan Speaking of British Car magazine take a look here (see link below) BTW I still have all my old issues in the garage or next to my bed. If I was ever bummed out about something I would open it up and was happy once again. Frank and Georges' issue below: http://backissues.com/issue/British-Car-April-and-May-1999 Alan I'll try and get an issue of Classic Motorsports today thanks for the info. Lin PS Jay you are funny : ) From refisk at chartermi.net Fri May 27 14:04:01 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:04:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <6256E6F2-789B-4167-912F-C77C9E6CF0C5@chartermi.net> I subscribed for the first couple of years. Got tired of seeing nothing but articles about Tim's latest Volvo or Porsche purchase. It took them years to get the project Midget done. Zzzzz...... Rick Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 09:30 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: >> BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was >> formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it from >> extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, >> even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of comments on >> this list. > ======================= > Well... it has great shox, anyway. > > Hemming's mag is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mo' better > > Peter C _______________________________________________ From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 27 14:17:32 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:17:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <6256E6F2-789B-4167-912F-C77C9E6CF0C5@chartermi.net> References: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <6256E6F2-789B-4167-912F-C77C9E6CF0C5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <201105271317277.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> It's done???????????????????????................ Peter At 03:04 PM 5/27/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: >I subscribed for the first couple of years. Got tired of seeing >nothing but articles about Tim's latest Volvo or Porsche >purchase. It took them years to get the project Midget done. Zzzzz...... > >Rick > >Sent from my iPad > >On May 27, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > > > > At 09:30 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was > > >> formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and > saved it from > >> extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, > >> even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of > comments on > >> this list. > > ======================= > > Well... it has great shox, anyway. > > > > Hemming's mag is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mo' better > > > > Peter C _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3663 - Release Date: 05/27/11 From lists at dinospider.com Fri May 27 15:02:16 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:02:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <4DDEFF59.8020605@dinospider.com> References: <4DDEFF59.8020605@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <4DE01158.4000706@dinospider.com> Just a quick followup, several people held back on the laughter and said no problem, done it for years. Others said to hunt down a better bracket system on the web but those people are better googlers than I am, I could not find it. So I am going for it tonight as it was pictured in my last e-mail. Sorry for the question its just that everything on this motor is so small compared to motors I usually deal with I was concerned it might be weak and break. Have to remove the front plate which I hate the thought of since I put it on a few years ago and now have to undo work already done, I have to cut it up to make it narrower and weld some parts to it to fit into the Singer chassis using the original Singer mounting holes. Then its the same to the rear plate and fit it all into the car make sure it fits, then clean it up and paint it and bingo one more item checked off. mike From lists at dinospider.com Fri May 27 15:09:29 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:09:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] motor front plate differences Message-ID: <4DE01309.2080404@dinospider.com> Anyone know what is the difference between a 1098 Sprite motor front plate and a Morris 1098 front plate ? I am talking aobut the front plate that serves as motor mount in the front of the motor. I have my sprite one that I am cutting up this weekend but a person in the UK who has done this swap before says I need to watch the height of the distributor to make sure it does not hit the steering gear. He says it _might_ not be a problem with a sprite motor as it will sit lower in the chassis than his did because he used a Morris motor. But being lower in the chassis I need to watch the rear of the gearbox mount to make sure it still fits. I would have thought the front plate was the same between the 2 cars since they used the same motor, is there a difference ? Without the body being fully finished, I have test fitted the steering gear but I can't be sure its exactly where it will end up when done so the distributor interference is a guess at best, if the motor sits lower with a sprite front plate that will make things easier and less "guessy". I temporarily don't have internet in the garage so this should be my last question for 5 days :) mike From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri May 27 15:15:32 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:15:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Car running again!! Message-ID: Just wanted to let everyone know that after I replaced the shocks my front tires are no longer trying to take out my inner fenders. Thanks all for the diagnostic. I now think that every part I did not replace or rebuild when I built the car has failed: Front shocks Fuel Pump Door hinges Starter Motor Peter thanks for the quick shipping of the shocks, the cores will be sent back next week. Happy motoring, now to see if I can find an inspection station on Saturday!!! Steve Green 59 Bugeye with numbers!!! From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 15:45:14 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:45:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <201105271317277.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <6256E6F2-789B-4167-912F-C77C9E6CF0C5@chartermi.net> <201105271317277.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Oh, c'mon, guys. It's a magazine. They did the Midget resto in a week, but spread the article out to fill the pages and keep people buying it. Well, it worked on me. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > It's done???????????????????????................ > > Peter > > At 03:04 PM 5/27/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: > >> I subscribed for the first couple of years. Got tired of seeing nothing >> but articles about Tim's latest Volvo or Porsche purchase. It took them >> years to get the project Midget done. Zzzzz...... >> >> Rick >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 27, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >> >> >> > At 09:30 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: >> >> BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It >> was >> >> >> formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it >> from >> >> extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am >> sure, >> >> even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of >> comments on >> >> this list. >> > ======================= >> > Well... it has great shox, anyway. >> > >> > Hemming's mag is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mo' better >> > >> > Peter C _______________________________________________ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3663 - Release Date: 05/27/11 >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.co From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 16:01:58 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:01:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK. The scan is done. I sent the article to JustBrits Ed and he will put it on his web site. It is tricky to scan a magazine article. All those little dots make it look weird unless you have it at the correct size on the screen. It printed OK, so let's see what Ed comes up with. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Any way you could scan it, and post it to those that don't subscribe? > > Thank you Allen, > Brad > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> I received the July 2011 issue of Classic Motorsports yesterday and >> Frank's >> obit is on page 12. >> >> Big thanks to Dave Woerpel for his nice writeup. Dave, you captured the >> essence of what we all are thinking. It's a shame because I am absolutely >> certain we could fill an entire issue with stories and pictures of Frank, >> events he attended, his projects, and the projects he helped us all with. >> It might be two issues. >> The pic is the one I took. I only have a small .jpg of it, but if anyone >> wants it, just let me know. >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA >> >> *Current:* >> 2006 Chebbie >> *Former:* >> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >> 1964 VW Type I >> 1967 VW Type II >> 1967 Rover 2000TC >> 1977 MG Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From millerls at ado13.com Fri May 27 16:19:33 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:19:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Verified CC Scam in the wild again! In-Reply-To: <1225854280.553593.1306507735155.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1225854280.553593.1306507735155.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <05B8EB0F-FD5E-47A8-B07D-0CF201799D5D@ado13.com> I log in to my credit card web page almost daily and very the activity on my CC account. I never give information to anyone that calls or emails me. I always go directly to the CC 800 number to see what is going on. Larry Miller From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:01:55 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:01:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I scanned the entire article of Frank & George from British Car magazine 1999, maybe Ed would like to put it on his site too? Sure miss Frank, I have been reading his old posts when ever I log on, it is like he is still with us. OMG it's like I lost my brother it is so damn difficult, he was so charismatic, kind and thoughtful. Miss you Frank, I hope you have lots of Spridgets in heaven to work on : ) Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > OK. The scan is done. I sent the article to JustBrits Ed and he will put > it on his web site. > > It is tricky to scan a magazine article. All those little dots make it > look > weird unless you have it at the correct size on the screen. It printed OK, > so let's see what Ed comes up with. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal >wrote: > > > Any way you could scan it, and post it to those that don't subscribe? > > > > Thank you Allen, > > Brad > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > >> I received the July 2011 issue of Classic Motorsports yesterday and > >> Frank's > >> obit is on page 12. > >> > >> Big thanks to Dave Woerpel for his nice writeup. Dave, you captured the > >> essence of what we all are thinking. It's a shame because I am > absolutely > >> certain we could fill an entire issue with stories and pictures of > Frank, > >> events he attended, his projects, and the projects he helped us all > with. > >> It might be two issues. > >> The pic is the one I took. I only have a small .jpg of it, but if > anyone > >> wants it, just let me know. > >> Allen Hefner > >> Norristown, PA > >> > >> *Current:* > >> 2006 Chebbie > >> *Former:* > >> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > >> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > >> 1964 VW Type I > >> 1967 VW Type II > >> 1967 Rover 2000TC > >> 1977 MG Midget > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:12:49 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:12:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Car running again!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Glad to hear this Steve. Got a site with pictures of your car? Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > Just wanted to let everyone know that after I replaced the shocks my front > tires are no longer trying to take out my inner fenders. Thanks all for > the > diagnostic. > > I now think that every part I did not replace or rebuild when I built the > car has failed: > > Front shocks > Fuel Pump > Door hinges > Starter Motor > > Peter thanks for the quick shipping of the shocks, the cores will be sent > back next week. > > Happy motoring, now to see if I can find an inspection station on > Saturday!!! > > > Steve > > Green 59 Bugeye with numbers!!! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:30:20 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:30:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <45260.25f6e833.3b114748@aol.com> References: <45260.25f6e833.3b114748@aol.com> Message-ID: I like this one WestlakeMonza : ) Somehow I don't think Frank put his engines on a stand to paint them. Does anyone know how Frank did it? I think this will be a familiar question in the future "how did Frank do it?" I have started to look for some of Frank's messages on doing various things and I am thinking I should print them all when I start my Bugeye project. (still trying to figure out how to sneak the LBC home without the spouse knowing ....hahaha). Frank told me to tell her he gave it to me while cleaning out the garage, God I sure miss him and his wisdom : ( Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM, wrote: > Nope, no such thing as a dumb question, just an opportunity to learn. > > In a message dated 27/05/2011 03:13:10 GMT Daylight Time, > dlancer7676 at comcast.net writes: > > B B like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:31:54 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:31:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow Jack that is so cool to hear. I just love this kind of stuff : ) Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Back in the day we all cut our grills so they fit inside the lip. Hay, it > was the thing to do. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Guterman" > > To: "EASTJONES alan" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rusty frogeye boot lid (bugeye trunk lid ) > > > I have seen that style grill on bugeye pictures before. I wanted one >> like >> that but could not find it. Ended up making a grill instead. I guess you >> could cut the standard grill to just fit inside? >> >> Steve >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:54 AM, EASTJONES alan < >> alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> Ref the $500 rusty ebay car with a boot lid aperture >>> I was quite inerested in the grille , it appears to be recessed into the >>> bonnet rather than having the top edge curling over the grille aperture >>> and >>> having the pointy arrow shaped feature central ., >>> Was this a period accessory, a racers mod, or a feature perculiar to the >>> US >>> bugeyes , ie no sharp bits on external surfaces , >>> I did save a photo of the grille on my other (read home) pc if anyone >>> one >>> cares to explain,. >>> Regards >>> Alan >>> Warwick UK >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3661 - Release Date: 05/26/11 >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:36:20 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:36:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Outta here! In-Reply-To: <77EB8F5BA21C45C8B2B2D85830D5CA8F@Home> References: <1126770.1306470144960.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <77EB8F5BA21C45C8B2B2D85830D5CA8F@Home> Message-ID: Michael, I am sorry to hear this regarding the forced retirement and the bad back. Do you need an OSHIT day to help you finish up that Bugeye of yours? I have a station wagon and can easily toss in the tools and I am often in Brooklyn (stones throw from you). Frank wanted us all to have OSHIT days. Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I also got forced into early retirement by downsizing, so I took up > Spridgeteering, restoring a car similar to the one my wife and I dated in 43 > years ago. Without that, I would never have encountered this group, > particularly Frank and the OSHITers. And I would not have encountered my > crusty mechanic/tutor, who made me a fair backyard LBC mechanic from > scratch. > > I was feeling pretty low, and developed back troubles, which knocked me > even lower. These people restored my faith in humanity, a rare commodity in > "The Big City." > > Thanks, > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:51:33 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:51:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Barn find Bugeye with monster rear bumper, ...warning it is very frightening ; ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What an A-hole, look at the comments I said not to post my comment with my email address on it and the jerk posted it anyway. I just got spammed by someone in Lebanon. Some people just don't read. Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > I like the backup light. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Linda Grunthaner >wrote: > > > OMG check out this eBay Bugeye's home made rear bumper "frightening". > > Wonder > > what car that bumper is from. > > > > *http://tinyurl.com/3ulko2z > > > > Lin > > * > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:54:54 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:54:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Small Detour to Car NC In-Reply-To: <5F4C80C1-7564-4712-B21E-9071C5F8763B@me.com> References: <5F4C80C1-7564-4712-B21E-9071C5F8763B@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob, Glad you are able to see your grandson play, good luck to him at the game. Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Hi Folks > > Decided to take a small detour -- Our Grandson, Scotty s baseball team, > Sonoma > Seawolves from Sonoma State University is playing in Cary, NC on Sunday and > since we are so close, we decided that we just have to be there. This is > their World Series and a once in a life time event, particularly since he > is a > freshman. > > We will be here for the weekend if there is anyone around that has time for > a > quick get togather. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From billmex at msn.com Fri May 27 18:00:09 2011 From: billmex at msn.com (Bill Mexson) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 01:00:09 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. Message-ID: Hello all, apologies first, I'm posting this on a few lists just in case it saves someone else from a brown trouser moment - or even worse! My '67 Midget is used on AutoSolos and Sprints so is often driven hard. Fortunately it wasn't in competition when the throttle stuck open last Saturday. I pulled over as soon as possible, popped the bonnet and saw just what I expected to see - two return springs and not three. I was a little surprised having replaced all three springs less than a thousand miles ago, but heck, these things happen. I re-set the throttle on the front carb and drove CAREFULLY home using the lightest throttle possible. Even so, after just the mile or two to home idle was up at to around 3k. I've plenty of spares lying around especially just now as the "white" one ('72 RWA) is undergoing a minor rebuild so I set about replacing the missing spring. Then the fun started. I fit the springs to the throttle linkage first and then stretch them down to the heat shield using thin nose pliers but no matter how careful I was the spring kept dropping off. Eventually I convinced myself that I wasn't having serious senior moments and took a closer look at the throttle lever and got a nasty surprise, the spring had worn right through the lever. I've attached a photo so you can see what had happened. Things went from bad to worse. I've three full sets of carbs and a number of spare bits but every single throttle lever is showing signs of similar wear albeit that only one had worn through completely. With my son and son-in-law scheduled to compete in Abingdon CarNival Sprint on 11 June I thought it best to buy new levers. I could not believe it when neither MGOC or Moss had stocks of levers. "We've never been asked for them" they told me. Are mine the only ones to ever wear? Even SU Carbs website parts list doesn't list them but I'm pleased to say that a telephone call to SU Carbs meant that I now have the last two throttle levers for the rear carb that they had in stock. No need to panic I understand that they will be making more soon and have five front carb levers still in stock. I'm sure that some of you will be saying "silly idiot, everyone knows that they should check throttle lever wear to avoid a brown trouser moment". But, if my experience prevents just one such moment - or even worse - for someone out there I really don't mind if I've given everyone else a laugh! Bill Mexson 07961 817610 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Throttle Lever1.JPG] From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 27 17:58:49 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:58:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling Message-ID: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> My wife's Subaru wagon, a completely pedestrian vehicle, clearly handles better than my stock Midget in good repair. Has the improvement of modern suspensions just been a matter of refinements, or has there been some major change in design? I confess that I have never pushed either one very hard, so maybe I haven't experienced the true difference. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 18:02:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:02:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50 UK style In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice site Alan, I hope you post some photos of the event or a link to picts. Have a fun time, Safety Fast. Jim, I am trying to get to the 50th but if I can't make it do you or other Spridgeteers know of any 50th shows here on the east coast? Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Wish you could join us too, Alan!! While several others (MG2011..etc) are > also celebrating the Midget 50th they include many other models and makes. > Only the event at Road America in Wisconsin is dedicated to Spridget > owners/enthusiasts! It is July 18-22, 2011... Info at the Sprite-Midget > Club USA website: > > > > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Alan > wrote: > > > Midget 50 > > our website in the UK http://www.midget50.com/ > > > > Can't beat the setting , on 12th June 2011 > > The British Motor Heritage museum at Gaydon was great for the Spridget > > 50 in 2008, this is a little further away from Warwick (70 miles or so) > > but I have bought my ticket , entered the rocker box race and am just > > praying for nice sunny weather. > > I wish I could get to the U.S gathering too. Are they having one in OZ > > or NZ ? > > Alan > > Warwick UK > > 1958 Frogeye > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From clarici at verizon.net Fri May 27 18:15:23 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:15:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <45260.25f6e833.3b114748@aol.com> Message-ID: He painted engines sitting on the pan or painted each piece bit by bit depending on how apart it was Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I like this one WestlakeMonza : ) > > Somehow I don't think Frank put his engines on a stand to paint them. Does > anyone know how Frank did it? I think this will be a familiar question in > the future "how did Frank do it?" I have started to look for some of > Frank's messages on doing various things and I am thinking I should print > them all when I start my Bugeye project. (still trying to figure out how to > sneak the LBC home without the spouse knowing ....hahaha). Frank told me to > tell her he gave it to me while cleaning out the garage, God I sure miss him > and his wisdom : ( > Lin > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM, wrote: > >> Nope, no such thing as a dumb question, just an opportunity to learn. >> >> In a message dated 27/05/2011 03:13:10 GMT Daylight Time, >> dlancer7676 at comcast.net writes: >> >> B B like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 18:24:08 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:24:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <45260.25f6e833.3b114748@aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks so much Frankie, you are so much more important to us now. You somehow bring Frank back to us. It is just so sad, I am sorry for being so sad about your dear father. We miss him dearly as you do. Frank was just so much fun Frankie, I felt like I made a really fun friend in high school when ever he was around or on line. Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote: > He painted engines sitting on the pan or painted each piece bit by bit > depending on how apart it was > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 27, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > > > I like this one WestlakeMonza : ) > > > > Somehow I don't think Frank put his engines on a stand to paint them. > Does > > anyone know how Frank did it? I think this will be a familiar question in > > the future "how did Frank do it?" I have started to look for some of > > Frank's messages on doing various things and I am thinking I should print > > them all when I start my Bugeye project. (still trying to figure out how > to > > sneak the LBC home without the spouse knowing ....hahaha). Frank told me > to > > tell her he gave it to me while cleaning out the garage, God I sure miss > him > > and his wisdom : ( > > Lin > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM, wrote: > > > >> Nope, no such thing as a dumb question, just an opportunity to learn. > >> > >> In a message dated 27/05/2011 03:13:10 GMT Daylight Time, > >> dlancer7676 at comcast.net writes: > >> > >> B B like I said, dumbest question posted here in a good few years. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 18:26:38 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:26:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill if you post photos on a photo site we can see them. We can't see them if you upload to the list. Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bill Mexson wrote: > Hello all, apologies first, I'm posting this on a few lists just in case it > saves someone else from a brown trouser moment - or even worse! > > > > My '67 Midget is used on AutoSolos and Sprints so is often driven hard. > Fortunately it wasn't in competition when the throttle stuck open last > Saturday. I pulled over as soon as possible, popped the bonnet and saw just > what I expected to see - two return springs and not three. I was a little > surprised having replaced all three springs less than a thousand miles ago, > but heck, these things happen. > > > > I re-set the throttle on the front carb and drove CAREFULLY home using the > lightest throttle possible. Even so, after just the mile or two to home > idle > was up at to around 3k. I've plenty of spares lying around especially just > now as the "white" one ('72 RWA) is undergoing a minor rebuild so I set > about replacing the missing spring. Then the fun started. > > > > I fit the springs to the throttle linkage first and then stretch them down > to the heat shield using thin nose pliers but no matter how careful I was > the spring kept dropping off. Eventually I convinced myself that I wasn't > having serious senior moments and took a closer look at the throttle lever > and got a nasty surprise, the spring had worn right through the lever. I've > attached a photo so you can see what had happened. > > > > Things went from bad to worse. > > > > I've three full sets of carbs and a number of spare bits but every single > throttle lever is showing signs of similar wear albeit that only one had > worn through completely. With my son and son-in-law scheduled to compete in > Abingdon CarNival Sprint on 11 June I thought it best to buy new levers. > > > > I could not believe it when neither MGOC or Moss had stocks of levers. > "We've never been asked for them" they told me. Are mine the only ones to > ever wear? > > > > Even SU Carbs website parts list doesn't list them but I'm pleased to say > that a telephone call to SU Carbs meant that I now have the last two > throttle levers for the rear carb that they had in stock. No need to panic > I > understand that they will be making more soon and have five front carb > levers still in stock. > > > > I'm sure that some of you will be saying "silly idiot, everyone knows that > they should check throttle lever wear to avoid a brown trouser moment". > But, > if my experience prevents just one such moment - or even worse - for > someone > out there I really don't mind if I've given everyone else a laugh! > > > > Bill Mexson > > 07961 817610 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > Throttle Lever1.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri May 27 18:30:33 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: <8086318390807440590@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <334223.81399.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree completely with you Allen. My subscription started about the time they changed the name to "British Car Magazine" from "British Car & Bike Magazine", although I had been buying BC&B for a while. It was a great magazine, but was mostly B&W, very narrow in focus, and hate to say it, had pretty much covered all the British cars out there with feature stories. Tim definitely saved the Mag. And I gotta say, the mix of cars covered now pretty much exactly matches the stuff that makes me drool. - David Booker Long Island ________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 18:43:42 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:43:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sharing more about Frank with my students for the end of school. Message-ID: List, I will be out of the area for several days with a camping trip and 3 day class trip with my seniors. But it is near the end of the year and I wanted to make a presentation of Frank for my kids with some really good photos of him smiling and with his cars & family. I also wanted to post some of his thoughtful words of wisdom for the kids to take forward. I'll be looking through old posts from Frank later in the week when I return but in the meantime if anyone has any suggestions of picts or words of wisdom from our dear friend Frank please post here to this thread for all to see. I will put it together in a week for my class so I will look for it here. I want to send the kids off with words of Franks wisdom but also his humor. I know of a few good images and I want to look through more of his words as I do that a lot now. OSHIT I'm crying again : ( Chat later kids, Lin From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri May 27 18:50:57 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:50:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Motorsports Frank III obit posted Message-ID: Good ole JustBrits Ed has posted the scan of Frank Clarici's obit. http://www.spritenut.com/FrankC01.jpg He said he would leave it up temporarily, so look at it and copy it if you want. Better yet, go buy the magazine (July 2011 issue). Even if you hate the mag, they were nice enough to print a touching tribute to our friend. Thanks, Ed. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 27 18:58:46 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:58:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <45260.25f6e833.3b114748@aol.com> Message-ID: > Nope, no such thing as a dumb question, Yes there are. Maybe not on this message board much, but they exist. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 27 19:01:36 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:01:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <6256E6F2-789B-4167-912F-C77C9E6CF0C5@chartermi.net> Message-ID: > It took them years to > get the project Midget done. Zzzzz...... I think we should have a contest for longest Spridget restoration, with a really cool 1st prize. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 27 19:05:32 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:05:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> Message-ID: > My wife's Subaru wagon, a completely pedestrian vehicle, clearly handles > better than my stock Midget in good repair. Take it back, heretic! From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 27 19:13:40 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:13:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> References: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> Message-ID: <1608642841.20110527181340@pacifier.com> Hello Michael, Sad to say, but a stock honda civic will blow the doors off a Spridget, out corner one, and stop shorter. Yes the world has changed in 50+ years. If you just want to go fast, almost any econo-coupe is faster, but new stuff has doesn't have personality, parts are expensive, and access is near impossible. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I prefer trout to salmon," Tom said officiously. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri May 27 19:24:16 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 21:24:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> References: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> Message-ID: <11843013-3760-465C-AAF5-87F83A5355E0@gmail.com> Michael, I haven't driven a vehicle (modern or otherwise) that handles as well as a Spridget with a well tuned suspension and good tires. Well tuned = Peter C Shox on all 4 corners and a 5/8 inch anti roll bar in the front. Front and rear lowered by 1" helps too ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On May 27, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > My wife's Subaru wagon, a completely pedestrian vehicle, clearly > handles better than my stock Midget in good repair. Has the > improvement of modern suspensions just been a matter of > refinements, or has there been some major change in design? I > confess that I have never pushed either one very hard, so maybe I > haven't experienced the true difference. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri May 27 19:42:42 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 21:42:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4920395E-E827-473A-B34E-7F38F826A68B@gmail.com> On May 27, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> Nope, no such thing as a dumb question, > Yes there are. Maybe not on this message board much, but they exist. I heard on once, but I don't remember what it was. Does anyone else know? Kevin V. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri May 27 20:01:45 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:01:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <1608642841.20110527181340@pacifier.com> References: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> <1608642841.20110527181340@pacifier.com> Message-ID: The midget gets an advantage from light weight and low center of gravity. The suspension is a very basic old design. What kind of wheels and tires are you using? Does a stock midget have 4" or 4.5" wheels, a little narrow by today's standard. Handling is also very subjective. I may have a slightly thicker than stock sway bar you can use if you want. Steve On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Michael, > > Sad to say, but a stock honda civic will blow the doors off a > Spridget, out corner one, and stop shorter. Yes the world has > changed in 50+ years. If you just want to go fast, almost any > econo-coupe is faster, but new stuff has doesn't have > personality, parts are expensive, and access is near impossible. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "I prefer trout to salmon," Tom said officiously. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 27 20:14:46 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:14:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The end of the world is coming and I clearly did not go to heaven. I can say anything I want. >> My wife's Subaru wagon, a completely pedestrian vehicle, clearly handles >> better than my stock Midget in good repair. > Take it back, heretic! From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 27 20:23:53 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:23:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <4920395E-E827-473A-B34E-7F38F826A68B@gmail.com> References: <4920395E-E827-473A-B34E-7F38F826A68B@gmail.com> Message-ID: >>> Nope, no such thing as a dumb question, >> Yes there are. Maybe not on this message board much, but they exist. > I heard on once, but I don't remember what it was. Does anyone else > know? You are obviously too young to remember Groucho Marks. Michael Rowe From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 20:38:20 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:38:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Motorsports Frank III obit posted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That was beautifully written. Also, one of my favorite photos, he looked so happy. Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Good ole JustBrits Ed has posted the scan of Frank Clarici's obit. > > http://www.spritenut.com/FrankC01.jpg > > He said he would leave it up temporarily, so look at it and copy it if you > want. Better yet, go buy the magazine (July 2011 issue). Even if you hate > the mag, they were nice enough to print a touching tribute to our friend. > > Thanks, Ed. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 27 20:42:17 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:42:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. Message-ID: List, Is there anyone from South Carolina coming up my way and can pick up some Bugeye seats I want to buy? Or is there any other way than Greyhound to ship seats to me in NJ? I don't really want to go to Newark to get these seats from the bus because Newark is a scary place. The seats are in Cartersville SC. The guy said it will cost $150. to bus them up to me, does this sound right? Thanks Linda PS I guess I'm still on line and not on vacation : ) as I just got this email. From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 27 20:48:38 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 21:48:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE06286.1080508@justbrits.com> << I sent the article to JustBrits Ed >> And I got it, Allen. Tnx. << and he will put it on his web site. >> NO I will NOT !!! I have put it on SpriteNut's tho. http://www.spritenut.com/FrankC01.jpg Again, TNX !! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri May 27 21:06:41 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 03:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield washer arms In-Reply-To: <1936053895.1086380.1306551829621.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1773955641.1086436.1306552001327.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Okay I know someone knows a way to do this.B I have traced down my rainy day leak to the windshield wiper arm holes through the body and then down behind the dash.B HowB do I loossen, fix, and then seal or tighten these withoutB removing the dash? Does the "bezel kit" from Vic Brit work?B Is there something better? Thanks Ryan From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 27 21:14:01 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <316230.24746.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Go to the greyhound site and do a shipping estimate http://www.shipgreyhound.com/ I just did Myrtle Beach to Newark 36" box 50 pounds valued at 200.00 and it came to $62.00 for standard shipping. jay ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 10:42:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. List, Is there anyone from South Carolina coming up my way and can pick up some Bugeye seats I want to buy? Or is there any other way than Greyhound to ship seats to me in NJ? I don't really want to go to Newark to get these seats from the bus because Newark is a scary place. The seats are in Cartersville SC. The guy said it will cost $150. to bus them up to me, does this sound right? From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri May 27 21:52:56 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:52:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets] motor front plate differences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86E7C3B2-B4D0-40F8-AB39-C48A866BDC22@gerardsgarage.com> Mike, I don't believe there is any difference at all. Gerard On May 27, 2011, at 2:09 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:09:29 -0700 > From: Mike Rambour > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] motor front plate differences > Message-ID: <4DE01309.2080404 at dinospider.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Anyone know what is the difference between a 1098 Sprite motor front > plate and a Morris 1098 front plate ? I am talking aobut the front > plate that serves as motor mount in the front of the motor. > > I have my sprite one that I am cutting up this weekend but a person > in > the UK who has done this swap before says I need to watch the height > of > the distributor to make sure it does not hit the steering gear. He > says > it _might_ not be a problem with a sprite motor as it will sit > lower in > the chassis than his did because he used a Morris motor. But being > lower in the chassis I need to watch the rear of the gearbox mount to > make sure it still fits. > > I would have thought the front plate was the same between the 2 cars > since they used the same motor, is there a difference ? Without the > body being fully finished, I have test fitted the steering gear but I > can't be sure its exactly where it will end up when done so the > distributor interference is a guess at best, if the motor sits lower > with a sprite front plate that will make things easier and less > "guessy". > > I temporarily don't have internet in the garage so this should be my > last question for 5 days :) > > mike From billmex at msn.com Sat May 28 03:24:07 2011 From: billmex at msn.com (Bill Mexson) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:24:07 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Linda for pointing out that attachments fall off! The photo of my worn throttle lever can be seen at http://tinyurl.com/ThrottleLever Bill Mexson _____ From: Bill Mexson [mailto:billmex at msn.com] Sent: 28 May 2011 01:00 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Almost a brown trouser moment. Hello all, apologies first, I'm posting this on a few lists just in case it saves someone else from a brown trouser moment - or even worse! My '67 Midget is used on AutoSolos and Sprints so is often driven hard. Fortunately it wasn't in competition when the throttle stuck open last Saturday. I pulled over as soon as possible, popped the bonnet and saw just what I expected to see - two return springs and not three. I was a little surprised having replaced all three springs less than a thousand miles ago, but heck, these things happen. I re-set the throttle on the front carb and drove CAREFULLY home using the lightest throttle possible. Even so, after just the mile or two to home idle was up at to around 3k. I've plenty of spares lying around especially just now as the "white" one ('72 RWA) is undergoing a minor rebuild so I set about replacing the missing spring. Then the fun started. I fit the springs to the throttle linkage first and then stretch them down to the heat shield using thin nose pliers but no matter how careful I was the spring kept dropping off. Eventually I convinced myself that I wasn't having serious senior moments and took a closer look at the throttle lever and got a nasty surprise, the spring had worn right through the lever. I've attached a photo so you can see what had happened. Things went from bad to worse. I've three full sets of carbs and a number of spare bits but every single throttle lever is showing signs of similar wear albeit that only one had worn through completely. With my son and son-in-law scheduled to compete in Abingdon CarNival Sprint on 11 June I thought it best to buy new levers. I could not believe it when neither MGOC or Moss had stocks of levers. "We've never been asked for them" they told me. Are mine the only ones to ever wear? Even SU Carbs website parts list doesn't list them but I'm pleased to say that a telephone call to SU Carbs meant that I now have the last two throttle levers for the rear carb that they had in stock. No need to panic I understand that they will be making more soon and have five front carb levers still in stock. I'm sure that some of you will be saying "silly idiot, everyone knows that they should check throttle lever wear to avoid a brown trouser moment". But, if my experience prevents just one such moment - or even worse - for someone out there I really don't mind if I've given everyone else a laugh! Bill Mexson From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sat May 28 05:25:52 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 07:25:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> Weld it up and redrill the hole. We cheap. Dave From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sat May 28 05:59:42 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 07:59:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> References: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: On May 28, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Dave Yealy wrote: > Weld it up and redrill the hole. We cheap. Dave, That's "We Tight" ;) Works for worn brake and clutch pedals too. Kevin From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat May 28 06:32:18 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:32:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> References: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <7B1D19C1FE8C446E91D6ADA230DE293C@Home> > Weld it up and redrill the hole. We cheap. You really ought to do this just to honor Frank's legacy. Michael Rowe From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat May 28 06:49:47 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 05:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <931099.1043.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think we should have a contest for longest Spridget restoration, with a really cool 1st prize. BZ ...and another really great prize for Longest Non-Spridget LBC restroration (with bonus points for packing it all up and moving it across state lines multiple times) - David Booker From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat May 28 07:29:38 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 06:29:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. In-Reply-To: <316230.24746.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <316230.24746.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01B90A3A05BF40748CB5519C0B7C6ABD@spider> They MIGHT also allow them wrapped with pallet wrap, that heavy duty clear plastic the big boys use to wrap a pallet stacked with product. Boxing things takes a bit of doing and some places require double boxing if you want to insure the seats. Shop rates below https://www.fedex.com/ratefinder/home?cc=US&language=en&locId=express http://www.usps.com/prices/welcome.htm https://wwwapps.ups.com/ctc/request?loc=en_US =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 8:14 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. Go to the greyhound site and do a shipping estimate http://www.shipgreyhound.com/ I just did Myrtle Beach to Newark 36" box 50 pounds valued at 200.00 and it came to $62.00 for standard shipping. jay From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat May 28 08:31:54 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 14:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <1785778276.2251612.1306593069324.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <946621501.2251624.1306593114674.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I have to jump in and agree with Kevin on this issue. The harder I throw Madge at a corner, the tighter she clings to it, and the flatter she goes around it. Possibly one of the reasons Gary only went for two rides with me. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Valentine" To: "Michael Rowe" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 6:24:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Michael, I haven't driven a vehicle (modern or otherwise) that handles as well as a Spridget with a well tuned suspension and good tires. Well tuned = Peter C Shox on all 4 corners and a 5/8 inch anti roll bar in the front. Front and rear lowered by 1" helps too ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From derf247 at gmail.com Sat May 28 08:42:00 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 09:42:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shrink/cling wrap them and put labels on them. They can go UPS. My racing seats from Summit came with no wrap and just a sticker on them. They were plastic, though. From frogeye at cox.net Sat May 28 09:01:32 2011 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:01:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt Message-ID: <1F79CEFBA0B647E48D92E8AB7CB4EC4F@frogeye> I am looking for a single inertia style seat belt to install in a 1973 Midget I have the driverbs side covered with an donor belt from a parts car but the passenger side hangs up and doesnbt seem to want to work well enough to rely on I am planning to drive the car frequently in the next few months and would like a belt that matches and works well Any help appreciated Yes, I know I can replace them with several other options but right now prefer to locate a matching belt Thanks in advance and feel free to contact me off the list if need be frogeye at cox.net Alan From derf247 at gmail.com Sat May 28 09:59:23 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:59:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt In-Reply-To: <1F79CEFBA0B647E48D92E8AB7CB4EC4F@frogeye> References: <1F79CEFBA0B647E48D92E8AB7CB4EC4F@frogeye> Message-ID: Don't scrimp on safety. If you can afford it, get two new ones. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat May 28 11:03:48 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 13:03:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> References: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: Welding the hole is not cheap, it is smart and easy. Much less work than trying to find an unobtainable part. Steve On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Dave Yealy wrote: > Weld it up and redrill the hole. We cheap. > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat May 28 11:08:00 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 17:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1077028680.2253117.1306602480085.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Agreed. Thirty plus year old belts have been weakened by time, sun exposure and chemicals. When you really need them is when they are sure to fail. By a new set and glue on MG logos if you want them to look original. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "alan" Cc: "list" Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:59:23 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt Don't scrimp on safety. If you can afford it, get two new ones. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat May 28 11:40:52 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 17:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <1351402198.2253308.1306604246205.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <794235781.2253328.1306604452660.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I think I could qualify for entry into both contests. I originally got mine in Upstate NY, packed nearly everything I owned in, on, and around it, and moved to Washington. I then drove her back to NY for what I had left in storage, and drove back to Washington. From Washington, I moved to three different homes in Oregon, one about 80 miles from the others. Finally, she was trailered to Nevada, mainly because there was no way that Gary & I could drive all 5 vehicles in two trips. I have been restoring her since the mid 80s, and the project is ongoing. Except for the year that she was down while I saved for all the best parts for her latest rebuild, she was running and driving the entire time. In fact, she was my ONLY car for over 10 years. I am down to the point where I only need to replace the interior panels and carpeting, and she will be ready for my daughter to paint her, assuming she actually does come for a visit this summer. I have a few odds & ends to do cosmetically, just because I want to. I installed the early grille years ago, as well as the early tail lights. Now I want to remove the bumpers, patch the holes, and install nerf bars, if I can find some at a reasonable price. If anyone is interested in a N(evada)OSHIT, I can provide rooms at the Red Lion, which is the best hotel in town. I guarantee that my Spaghetti Caruso would make Frank's mother jealous, and, since I don't drink it, my beverage fridge is always full of beer. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Booker" To: "spridget" Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:49:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports I think we should have a contest for longest Spridget restoration, with a really cool 1st prize. BZ ...and another really great prize for Longest Non-Spridget LBC restroration (with bonus points for packing it all up and moving it across state lines multiple times) - David Booker Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 28 12:04:46 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 13:04:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE1393E.2040004@justbrits.com> << ...maybe Ed would like to put it on his site too? >> Needs to be SENT first !?! And people, PLEASE get this thru your bullit-riddled, tequila laced, beer/brewskis 'soaked', 'we-tight-clubish', O.S.H.I.T. bent, love-of-Sprites, Zappa-loving, (oops) "X-&-Zoom", feline-wheel-chocks, scrapple, love-of-LBCs- in-general, and LOVE/RESPECT-of-Frank C3 !!! "...his site too..." is NOT, I REPEAT, NOT mine !!!! www.spritenut.com BELONGS to Sprite Lovers and is/will be provided to youse by Frankie VI & Tiffany Clarici !! GOT IT, PLEASE ?!?!?!?? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat May 28 14:09:08 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh Message-ID: I have painted lots of engines without an engine stand. You have to paint the bottom of the sump first or once it's in a car. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 28/05/2011 00:30:21 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: I like this one WestlakeMonza : ) Somehow I don't think Frank put his engines on a stand to paint them. Does anyone know how Frank did it? I think this will be a familiar question in the future "how did Frank do it?" I have started to look for some of Frank's messages on doing various things and I am thinking I should print them all when I start my Bugeye project. (still trying to figure out how to sneak the LBC home without the spouse knowing ....hahaha). Frank told me to tell her he gave it to me while cleaning out the garage, God I sure miss him and his wisdom : ( Lin From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat May 28 14:10:49 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling Message-ID: I'm guessing the engine is a flat four with a low C of G - the Impreza are and in my experience the easiest car to drive really fast that I've driven. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 28/05/2011 01:19:44 GMT Daylight Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: My wife's Subaru wagon, a completely pedestrian vehicle, clearly handles better than my stock Midget in good repair. Has the improvement of modern suspensions just been a matter of refinements, or has there been some major change in design? I confess that I have never pushed either one very hard, so maybe I haven't experienced the true difference. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat May 28 14:22:41 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2123543699.566337.1306614161845.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Either a 2.6 or 3.0 Boxer flat 4. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com I'm guessing the engine is a flat four with a low C of G - the Impreza are and in my experience the easiest car to drive really fast that I've driven. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat May 28 14:25:33 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Steering wheel refurb In-Reply-To: <4DDA8095.5050105@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <116652920.566365.1306614333281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Went there, tried to look... Roger Moments' stuff seems to be for members only! I don't want to be a member - just want to repair my MM1000 steering wheel. I'll probably use Eastoods' product :! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" Heard, for the positively BEST answers, use the Archives Link at bottom of EVERY List Post. BUT instead of [naturally] Spridgets, select [ Big ] "Healeys". SEVERAL posts including one containing Roger Moment's "methods". From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat May 28 14:45:27 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 15:45:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh References: Message-ID: <56F649C9BE7E4C9B8D2B2BDEB8DC0E7D@personal> I slways do it first, like when it is not connected to the block. But then why not just roll it on its side. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh >I have painted lots of engines without an engine stand. You have to paint > the bottom of the sump first or once it's in a car. > > Regards > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 28/05/2011 00:30:21 GMT Daylight Time, > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > I like this one WestlakeMonza : ) > > Somehow I don't think Frank put his engines on a stand to paint them. > Does > anyone know how Frank did it? I think this will be a familiar question in > the future "how did Frank do it?" I have started to look for some of > Frank's messages on doing various things and I am thinking I should print > them > all when I start my Bugeye project. (still trying to figure out how to > sneak > the LBC home without the spouse knowing ....hahaha). Frank told me to > tell > her he gave it to me while cleaning out the garage, God I sure miss him > and his wisdom : ( > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3665 - Release Date: 05/28/11 From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sat May 28 14:59:53 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 13:59:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering wheel refurb In-Reply-To: <116652920.566365.1306614333281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <4DDA8095.5050105@justbrits.com> <116652920.566365.1306614333281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Dave, Actually I believe that Roger does not repair wheels anymore and it fact he has started to recast the entire wheel (according to him, the repairs never hold up over time.) That being said, I don't believe he does this for others, just his own car. I have seen the wheel he recast for his BN1 and it's nothing less than amazing, but he has since installed a rare original period wooden wheel. Mike Lempert makes a perfect copy of this wheel which is what I have for my car. Curt On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Went there, tried to look... > Roger Moments' stuff seems to be for members only! > I don't want to be a member - just want to repair my MM1000 steering wheel. > I'll probably use Eastoods' product :! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" > > Heard, for the positively BEST answers, use the Archives Link > at bottom of EVERY List Post. BUT instead of [naturally] Spridgets, > select [ Big ] "Healeys". SEVERAL posts including one containing > Roger Moment's "methods". > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat May 28 15:12:48 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:12:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> I've built a LOT of engines, and never used an engine stand. However for some things I think there might be an advantage. We had a couple of steel tables in our shop, made out of steel pipe, steel angles, and pretty thick steel on the top. We would set a block on the table upside down. Then install the cam bearings, cam and crankshaft. Then we would screw 4 of the bellhousing bolts into the back of the engine and turn it up on its back end. The bolts would stick out enough to hold the block up and provide clearance for the flange end of the crankshaft. Then we would put the pistons in, put the heads, intake, and covers on. Then we would paint the whole thing. (A little paint on the table never hurt anything.) We would bolt a plate with a big loop on it in place of the carburetor (for V engines), pick the engine up with our hoist, and lower it into the car. Nowadays it seems to be in vogue to use an engine stand, then one of those little wheel-around hoists to pick up the engine, bolt the transmission on and wrangle the whole thing into a car. We had a hoist on a track in the roof of our shop, and we never put engine/transmission in at the same time. We worked on lots of cars where this would not have been possible due to the size of the opening. (I defer to the people with experience on LBC's regarding installing with or without the transmission in place, but for most other cars it is easier without.) Of course many cars these days use subframes and it is easier to drop the whole subframe out the bottom. > I have painted lots of engines without an engine stand. You have to paint > the bottom of the sump first or once it's in a car. From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat May 28 15:19:21 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 17:19:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dash pot refill Message-ID: <2184997ECBA641BFB3E34AFC78960D66@Home> It happened again, at least the third time, maybe more: My engine suddenly started missing pretty severely and erratically. The dash pots were nearly empty (it happens every 800 miles or so), and refilling them stopped the missing. Yet I have read that racers often run with them empty. What is happening here? Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From derf247 at gmail.com Sat May 28 15:34:33 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:34:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dash pot refill In-Reply-To: <2184997ECBA641BFB3E34AFC78960D66@Home> References: <2184997ECBA641BFB3E34AFC78960D66@Home> Message-ID: Racers don't need low end street drivability. There is a fluid/spring balance. Your fluid should last more than 800 miles, though. Could be that they were run too much without fluid and now they're worn and leaking fluid out quickly. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat May 28 16:14:34 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 15:14:34 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Now it can be told! Message-ID: <9270949.1306620874461.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat May 28 17:02:39 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:02:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it can be told! In-Reply-To: <9270949.1306620874461.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <9270949.1306620874461.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1B79FEC0AD064299941F820E3BAE788A@spider> The world awaits with baited breath ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of b-evans at earthlink.net Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:15 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Now it can be told! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat May 28 17:42:46 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:42:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201105270754352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I agree, Peter, way better. I preferred British Car Mag much more(than Classic)....ONLY British cars; only mag so doing. Herb On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 09:30 AM 5/27/2011, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was >> formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it >> from >> extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, >> even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of comments >> on >> this list. >> > ======================= > Well... it has great shox, anyway. > > Hemming's mag is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay mo' better > > Peter C _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat May 28 17:46:15 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:46:15 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Now it can be told! (2nd try) Message-ID: <24649158.1306626376059.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat May 28 17:48:31 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:48:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> References: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: I believe the rod used to weld with will be 'harder' also and not as prone to wear. Herb On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Dave Yealy wrote: > Weld it up and redrill the hole. We cheap. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat May 28 17:48:29 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:48:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports Message-ID: <05da01cc1d91$beb247c0$056a010a@mail2world.com> List, Photo is on my website, link on the bottom of this page: http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/shellstrip.html Photo itself: http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/Frankbeer.JPG -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Allen Hefner [lbc77mg at gmail.com] >Sent: 5/27/2011 10:30:54 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports > >I can scan it, but I am at work now. We only have feeder scanners and I am >not ripping a page out of my mag! > >I will scan it tonight and find someplace to put it on the 'net. Unless >somebody beats me to it. > >BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was >formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it from >extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am sure, >even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of comments on >this list. > >Plus, you get a free T-shirt and a very nice wall calendar every year. >http://classicmotorsports.net is the URL. > Allen Hefner >Norristown, PA > >*Current:* >2006 Chebbie >*Former:* >1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >1964 VW Type I >1967 VW Type II >1967 Rover 2000TC >1977 MG Midget > > >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> Any way you could scan it, and post it to those that don't subscribe? >> >> Thank you Allen, >> Brad >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: >> >>> I received the July 2011 issue of Classic Motorsports yesterday and >>> Frank's >>> obit is on page 12. >>> >>> Big thanks to Dave Woerpel for his nice writeup. Dave, you captured the >>> essence of what we all are thinking. It's a shame because I am absolutely >>> certain we could fill an entire issue with stories and pictures of Frank, >>> events he attended, his projects, and the projects he helped us all with. >>> It might be two issues. >>> The pic is the one I took. I only have a small .jpg of it, but if anyone >>> wants it, just let me know. >>> Allen Hefner >>> Norristown, PA >>> >>> *Current:* >>> 2006 Chebbie >>> *Former:* >>> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >>> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >>> 1964 VW Type I >>> 1967 VW Type II >>> 1967 Rover 2000TC >>> 1977 MG Midget >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage : >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> DON JULIO 1942 >> >> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat May 28 17:53:45 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:53:45 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Now it can be told! (3rd try) Message-ID: <25180732.1306626825969.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> (Something strange going on. The text message appears as I type it, AND in the "Sent" folder. But the text does not appear when received by the list.) Ten of the ugliest cars ever made! (With a European bias.) http://tinyurl.com/3esdvn6 http://tinyurl.com/3g8kh5hor or http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/8538993/Ten-of-the-ugliest-cars-ever-made.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/jamesmay/8538881/James-Mays-greatest-hits-the-ugliest-cars-of-all-time.html From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat May 28 17:57:32 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:57:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt Message-ID: <288a01cc1d93$029f63e0$0168010a@mail2world.com> As someone who actually had to use the belts as intended, get new ones. The cost is little compared to your life. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: kgb at frontiernet.net [kgb at frontiernet.net] >Sent: 5/28/2011 1:08:00 PM >To: derf247 at gmail.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt > >Agreed. Thirty plus year old belts have been weakened by time, sun exposure and >chemicals. When you really need them is when they are sure to fail. By a new set >and glue on MG logos if you want them to look original. > >Kate > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "derf" >To: "alan" >Cc: "list" >Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:59:23 AM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt > >Don't scrimp on safety. If you can afford it, get two new ones. >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >. From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sat May 28 18:04:10 2011 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:04:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Help with shipping Bugeye seats - Was Small Detour to Cary NC Message-ID: <5E96A1E3941B4AC4BD359F8E19455187@HomeComputer> Bob, Where do you live - Linda needs some seats brought up to Jersey... BTW - Cary is a nice place, but grown a lot - I was raised there and still live near by - couldn't afford to live there... Need any wore-out Spridget parts to take back with you? Dean Holly Springs, NC -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:42 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. List, Is there anyone from South Carolina coming up my way and can pick up some Bugeye seats I want to buy? Or is there any other way than Greyhound to ship seats to me in NJ? I don't really want to go to Newark to get these seats from the bus because Newark is a scary place. The seats are in Cartersville SC. The guy said it will cost $150. to bus them up to me, does this sound right? Thanks Linda PS I guess I'm still on line and not on vacation : ) as I just got this email. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat May 28 18:20:52 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 17:20:52 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers Message-ID: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have always maintained that Spridget drivers, being at the bottom of the fashionable super-car list, simply lack the arrogance to be included in a group such as this one! http://tinyurl.com/3jkgfpk Buster Evans From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat May 28 18:41:35 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 19:41:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: References: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: quench in oil, to temper it, and drill a smaller hole, so it will take longer to wear again. On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 6:48 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > I believe the rod used to weld with will be 'harder' also and not as prone > to wear. > Herb > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Dave Yealy >wrote: > > > Weld it up and redrill the hole. We cheap. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sat May 28 18:49:33 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 00:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers* In-Reply-To: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1441549650.1006360.1306630173138.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> LOL You guys will like this one.B In view of having a 1967 Austin Healey Sprite that I was completely disassembling and rebuilding, including welding significant sheets of metal into the body to replace the rusted stuff, I joined the local Austin Healey Club, which, really, is a great group of guys.B But my driver was a 1979 Midget.B Of course I drove on most of the monthly "tours" the club would put together, and eventually volunteered to lead a drive.B As we gathered on that Saturday morning and I was laying out the route that I would lead the group of Big Healeys, an olderB Jaguar, and I think a Mercedes, I told the group that If I drove too fast and was running away from them to just flash their lights and I would slow down so their cars could keep up.B The looks of the group, both at me and toward each other, was worth recording for posterity, and the "Yeah, Right's" were plentful.B LOL We had a wonderful drive.B 8^) --David C. "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." ----- Original Message ----- From: b-evans at earthlink.net To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:20:52 PM Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers I have always maintained that Spridget drivers, being at the bottom of the fashionable super-car list, simply lack the arrogance to be included in a group such as this one! http://tinyurl.com/3jkgfpk Buster Evans Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net --David C. "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." ----- Original Message ----- From: b-evans at earthlink.net To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:20:52 PM Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers I have always maintained that Spridget drivers, being at the bottom of the fashionable super-car list, simply lack the arrogance to be included in a group such as this one! http://tinyurl.com/3jkgfpk Buster Evans Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 28 19:08:20 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:08:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4DE19C84.3010802@justbrits.com> << ...simply lack the arrogance to be included in a group such as this one! >> Buster, THANKS !!! But whilst it IS an "interesting" read, IMHO the "More......." (stories or articles) are a bit better !!!! # 1 being: Two police cars clamped as Royal visit officers sat INSIDE- shortly before clamper was arrested for obstruction! # 2 being: The grand prix with more va va vroom than most: Monaco revs up for the sexiest F1 weekend of the year. Now a question (speaking of "arrogance ) especially for the F-1 fans: Which "Pile of Money" would you rather have: #1 = Overall US Dollars of ALL the TEAMS; cars, transporters, etc. as COMPLETE which are "On Site" ! #2 = Overall US Dollars of ALL the YACHTS as complete [ helos NOT included ] which are "On Site" ! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 28 19:41:00 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 18:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <152781.1051.qm@web161217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Maybe it's just that Spridgets are so narrow that we can park straight-on in a space and probably not get door-dinged. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 5/28/11, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: From: b-evans at earthlink.net Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 8:20 PM I have always maintained that Spridget drivers, being at the bottom of the fashionable super-car list, simply lack the arrogance to be included in a group such as this one! http://tinyurl.com/3jkgfpk Buster Evans Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From hmortada at aol.com Thu May 26 13:51:28 2011 From: hmortada at aol.com (Mortada) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:51:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help Message-ID: <8CDE9F56FBDB4BC-D00-3D24E@webmail-d058.sysops.aol.com> I am looking for an advise from the wise men and women out there. I am looking at a 1957 MGA, any advice on what should I be aware of and what would they be worth it in the North American Market? It is in pretty good shape, stored in winters but hardly driven in summers. I am in Ontario Canada and I am thinking of having it in a raffle for a fund raiser. Thank you all. hmortada at aol.com Hadi Mortada B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Rotary Club Of West Ottawa www.RCWO.org www.rotaryclubwestottawa.ca From bkitterer at me.com Sat May 28 21:07:25 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:07:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dash pot refill In-Reply-To: <2184997ECBA641BFB3E34AFC78960D66@Home> References: <2184997ECBA641BFB3E34AFC78960D66@Home> Message-ID: <8FEF6BBB-2FA8-4396-AC11-AE5FA8245B2C@me.com> What oil are you using? Light weight (5-10 wt) will get pulled out faster than 30 wt that they were designed to use. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On May 28, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > It happened again, at least the third time, maybe more: My engine suddenly started missing pretty severely and erratically. The dash pots were nearly empty (it happens every 800 miles or so), and refilling them stopped the missing. Yet I have read that racers often run with them empty. What is happening here? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Bugeyed Midget > '60 Sprite kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From bkitterer at me.com Sat May 28 21:16:24 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:16:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Help with shipping Bugeye seats - Was Small Detour to Cary NC In-Reply-To: <5E96A1E3941B4AC4BD359F8E19455187@HomeComputer> References: <5E96A1E3941B4AC4BD359F8E19455187@HomeComputer> Message-ID: All ready contacted Lin but do not have any room. We are from the San Diego area and are on an adventure circumnavigating the USA and lower Canada. About a ten month trip. After the week end we will be continuing in the NE direction. There is a basic route but no schedule. Rarely do we know where we will be more than a day or two in advance. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On May 28, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Dean Swanson wrote: > Bob, > Where do you live - Linda needs some seats brought up to Jersey... > > BTW - Cary is a nice place, but grown a lot - I was raised there and still > live near by - couldn't afford to live there... > > Need any wore-out Spridget parts to take back with you? > > Dean > Holly Springs, NC From pvanwig at me.com Sat May 28 22:06:10 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 21:06:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3ADF538A-73C5-430E-91C8-015FF314B8FE@me.com> One time when looking for a space I saw a car 90 degrees across two spaces. After fruitlessly checking the rest of the lot I pulled in behind the hot mustang and went into the show. Its fun when you drive a sprite. When we came out he was at his car he glared at me. But standing 6'3" prevents a lot of fights from starting! Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear pvanwig at mac.com On May 28, 2011, at 5:20 PM, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > I have always maintained that Spridget drivers, being at the bottom of the fashionable super-car list, simply lack the arrogance to be included in a group such as this one! > > http://tinyurl.com/3jkgfpk > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at me.com From grday at btinternet.com Sun May 29 03:47:45 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 10:47:45 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers References: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <70B579BCFE8545188DD71801AB4F1CE3@user8634b3d69b> There is a little bit of a dichotomy in relation to this subject as people in the UK, for some reason unknown want to park as close as possible to a car similar to these and open their doors to bang on them. I have parked on the empty, far side of a supermarket car park with a semi-decent car and when I returned have had cars parked that close I could barely walk through to reach to the door. The rest of that side of the car park remained empty. I simply cannot understand the thought process behind this . If you park in a position to take up 2 spaces you tend to find others will park within bays on either side and leave you in a position where you do not get damage. If my Sprite was as neat and tidy as some of those on the list I would take up 2 places and reduce the risk of minor car park damage. I would suggest it is not always arrogance but simply self protection. However, taking up a disabled persons parking space(s) is simply wrong but the use of a tyre iron to make the driver in a physical condition to correctly use such a space may not be the right thing to do to cure this. There was a local Police Officer who would abuse such parking areas whilst going into a local store to get his free lunch but he stopped when photographs appeared in the local press. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 1:20 AM Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers >I have always maintained that Spridget drivers, being at the bottom of the >fashionable super-car list, simply lack the arrogance to be included in a >group such as this one! > > http://tinyurl.com/3jkgfpk > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 29 04:48:13 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 06:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling Message-ID: <3524.36603a49.3b137e6c@aol.com> I guess you meant a stock honduh civic will blow the doors of a STOCK Spridget but a modified honduh civic won't be able to out corner a modified Spridget? Weslake-Monza 1330 - my Sprite out corners modern stuff every time I drive it. In a message dated 28/05/2011 02:31:19 GMT Daylight Time, pythias at pacifier.com writes: Hello Michael, Sad to say, but a stock honda civic will blow the doors off a Spridget, out corner one, and stop shorter. Yes the world has changed in 50+ years. If you just want to go fast, almost any econo-coupe is faster, but new stuff has doesn't have personality, parts are expensive, and access is near impossible. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 29 04:53:46 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 06:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt Message-ID: <361d.1e413d76.3b137fba@aol.com> Not necessarily. US belt manufacturers, at least for racing harnesses, use a different type of webbing to UK manfucturers, at least for racing harnesses. So, they are much longer lived and considerably less effected by sun exposure. I'm not sure Alan was after a 30 year belt but it's an interesting point for everyone to really think about how old the safety belts are in their car and whether or not they ought to be thinking about changing them due to their age. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 28/05/2011 18:13:44 GMT Daylight Time, kgb at frontiernet.net writes: Agreed. Thirty plus year old belts have been weakened by time, sun exposure and chemicals. When you really need them is when they are sure to fail. By a new set and glue on MG logos if you want them to look original. Kate From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 29 05:01:00 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 07:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers Message-ID: <3775.31b4f644.3b13816c@aol.com> In the UK when I have a rental car for the family holiday (only car in the household is my Sprite - we poor!) I take photographs of the cars parked either side of me where possible. So, if I get door dinged and the colour matches, I've some evidence. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 29/05/2011 10:59:13 GMT Daylight Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: There is a little bit of a dichotomy in relation to this subject as people in the UK, for some reason unknown want to park as close as possible to a car similar to these and open their doors to bang on them. I have parked on the empty, far side of a supermarket car park with a semi-decent car and when I returned have had cars parked that close I could barely walk through to reach to the door. The rest of that side of the car park remained empty. I simply cannot understand the thought process behind this . If you park in a position to take up 2 spaces you tend to find others will park within bays on either side and leave you in a position where you do not get damage. If my Sprite was as neat and tidy as some of those on the list I would take up 2 places and reduce the risk of minor car park damage. I would suggest it is not always arrogance but simply self protection. However, taking up a disabled persons parking space(s) is simply wrong but the use of a tyre iron to make the driver in a physical condition to correctly use such a space may not be the right thing to do to cure this. There was a local Police Officer who would abuse such parking areas whilst going into a local store to get his free lunch but he stopped when photographs appeared in the local press. Guy R Day From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun May 29 06:27:53 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 12:27:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <2080887768.2258557.1306672022234.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> People can be jerks in this country also. I parked within a marked space about a month ago to pick up a cup of coffee to take with me to my night shift, and play off my free money in the slots. When I came out, there was a new Ford 150 parked crosswise directly behind me in the nearly empty lot. I did the polite thing, and asked that an announcement be made for the owner to please move it. After 15 minutes, they called for the hook, and learned that it would be two or more hours, as there was a wreck on the Interstate. I was by then due at work in 15 minutes, so I chose option "C", and put my truck in reverse and pushed the Ford out of my way. Quite frankly, I don't care how much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. There were numerous marked spots that were actually closer to the door than I was parked. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy R Day" To: b-evans at earthlink.net, spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 2:47:45 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers There is a little bit of a dichotomy in relation to this subject as people in the UK, for some reason unknown want to park as close as possible to a car similar to these and open their doors to bang on them. I have parked on the empty, far side of a supermarket car park with a semi-decent car and when I returned have had cars parked that close I could barely walk through to reach to the door. The rest of that side of the car park remained empty. I simply cannot understand the thought process behind this . If you park in a position to take up 2 spaces you tend to find others will park within bays on either side and leave you in a position where you do not get damage. If my Sprite was as neat and tidy as some of those on the list I would take up 2 places and reduce the risk of minor car park damage. I would suggest it is not always arrogance but simply self protection. However, taking up a disabled persons parking space(s) is simply wrong but the use of a tyre iron to make the driver in a physical condition to correctly use such a space may not be the right thing to do to cure this. There was a local Police Officer who would abuse such parking areas whilst going into a local store to get his free lunch but he stopped when photographs appeared in the local press. Guy R Day From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 29 06:55:46 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 07:55:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <2080887768.2258557.1306672022234.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Did you ever hear any more about the outcome of your "push"? LOL On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 7:27 AM, wrote: > People can be jerks in this country also. I parked within a marked space > about a month ago to pick up a cup of coffee to take with me to my night > shift, and play off my free money in the slots. When I came out, there was a > new Ford 150 parked crosswise directly behind me in the nearly empty lot. I > did the polite thing, and asked that an announcement be made for the owner > to please move it. After 15 minutes, they called for the hook, and learned > that it would be two or more hours, as there was a wreck on the Interstate. > > I was by then due at work in 15 minutes, so I chose option "C", and put my > truck in reverse and pushed the Ford out of my way. Quite frankly, I don't > care how much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and > door. There were numerous marked spots that were actually closer to the door > than I was parked. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guy R Day" > To: b-evans at earthlink.net, spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 2:47:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers > > There is a little bit of a dichotomy in relation to this subject as people > in the UK, for some reason unknown want to park as close as possible to a > car similar to these and open their doors to bang on them. I have parked > on > the empty, far side of a supermarket car park with a semi-decent car and > when I returned have had cars parked that close I could barely walk through > to reach to the door. The rest of that side of the car park remained > empty. > I simply cannot understand the thought process behind this > . > If you park in a position to take up 2 spaces you tend to find others will > park within bays on either side and leave you in a position where you do > not > get damage. > > If my Sprite was as neat and tidy as some of those on the list I would take > up 2 places and reduce the risk of minor car park damage. I would suggest > it is not always arrogance but simply self protection. > > However, taking up a disabled persons parking space(s) is simply wrong but > the use of a tyre iron to make the driver in a physical condition to > correctly use such a space may not be the right thing to do to cure this. > There was a local Police Officer who would abuse such parking areas whilst > going into a local store to get his free lunch but he stopped when > photographs appeared in the local press. > > Guy R Day > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 29 06:57:51 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 07:57:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <3524.36603a49.3b137e6c@aol.com> References: <3524.36603a49.3b137e6c@aol.com> Message-ID: What did you do, buy a book on how to set it up for road and track? On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:48 AM, wrote: > > Weslake-Monza 1330 - my Sprite out corners modern stuff every time I drive > it. > > > In a message dated 28/05/2011 02:31:19 GMT Daylight Time, > pythias at pacifier.com writes: > > Hello Michael, > > Sad to say, but a stock honda civic will blow the doors off a > Spridget, out corner one, and stop shorter. Yes the world has > changed in 50+ years. If you just want to go fast, almost any > econo-coupe is faster, but new stuff has doesn't have > personality, parts are expensive, and access is near impossible. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pvanwig at me.com Sun May 29 07:05:47 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 06:05:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: One time when looking for a space I saw a car 90 degrees across two spaces. After fruitlessly checking the rest of the lot I pulled in behind the hot mustang and went into the show. Its fun when you drive a sprite. When we came out he was at his car he glared at me. But standing 6'3" prevents a lot of fights from starting! Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear pvanwig at mac.com On May 28, 2011, at 5:20 PM, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: I have always maintained that Spridget drivers, being at the bottom of the fashionable super-car list, simply lack the arrogance to be included in a group such as this one! http://tinyurl.com/3jkgfpk Buster Evans From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 29 07:20:14 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 06:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <573542.80743.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> We need a "like" button. jay ________________________________ From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 8:27:53 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers I was by then due at work in 15 minutes, so I chose option "C", and put my truck in reverse and pushed the Ford out of my way. Quite frankly, I don't care how much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 29 07:34:26 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 08:34:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <573542.80743.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <573542.80743.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'd definitely push the "like" button on that!! On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Jay wrote: > We need a "like" button. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 8:27:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers > > > > I was by then due at work in 15 minutes, so I chose option "C", and put my > truck > in reverse and pushed the Ford out of my way. Quite frankly, I don't care > how > much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 29 07:37:48 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 08:37:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <573542.80743.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <573542.80743.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Kate, perhaps you could find someone to print up a couple 8" vinyl images of the Staples "Easy" button. After you exercise option "C", you can place it over the affected area. LOL On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Jay wrote: > We need a "like" button. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 8:27:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers > > > > I was by then due at work in 15 minutes, so I chose option "C", and put my > truck > in reverse and pushed the Ford out of my way. Quite frankly, I don't care > how > much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From aseippel at austin.rr.com Sun May 29 07:46:21 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 08:46:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: References: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002801cc1e06$cb7aee10$6270ca30$@rr.com> Back when I worked for a large 3 letter computer company, my neighbor and I arrived at work at about the same time. The main close-in parking lot was always full after 8:00am, which required about a quarter of a mile hike from one of the satellite lots. Close to the building, an in-DUH-vidual had parked a non-descript Japanese car dead in the middle of two parking spaces. Without saying anything to each other, he and I parked our Saabs about 2 inches from each side of his car, locked the doors and went into the office. During the day, lots of people stopped by our offices to has a laugh about our parking job. Security even came by to congratulate us. We watched him out the window at about 4:00 trying to find a way into his car. Amazingly enough, neither of us went home until about 7:00pm. Actually, we just sat around after about 5:30 and swapped stories and played computer games. We never saw the car in that parking lot again. Just teaching manners to one person at a time. :-) Jim From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 29 07:47:03 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 08:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <60E1C5AB164C4541B36AD25D1C782DFA@HomePC> They just built a new place here for people who pull stunts like that. They call it jail. -----Original Message----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:27 AM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers People can be jerks in this country also. I parked within a marked space about a month ago to pick up a cup of coffee to take with me to my night shift, and play off my free money in the slots. When I came out, there was a new Ford 150 parked crosswise directly behind me in the nearly empty lot. I did the polite thing, and asked that an announcement be made for the owner to please move it. After 15 minutes, they called for the hook, and learned that it would be two or more hours, as there was a wreck on the Interstate. I was by then due at work in 15 minutes, so I chose option "C", and put my truck in reverse and pushed the Ford out of my way. Quite frankly, I don't care how much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. There were numerous marked spots that were actually closer to the door than I was parked. Kate From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 29 07:49:19 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 08:49:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <002801cc1e06$cb7aee10$6270ca30$@rr.com> References: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <002801cc1e06$cb7aee10$6270ca30$@rr.com> Message-ID: <0E6C825F0A684ECF84F1508299BD75E6@HomePC> Now there is an adult, humorous and legal way of getting your point across! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Seippel Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:46 AM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers Back when I worked for a large 3 letter computer company, my neighbor and I arrived at work at about the same time. The main close-in parking lot was always full after 8:00am, which required about a quarter of a mile hike from one of the satellite lots. Close to the building, an in-DUH-vidual had parked a non-descript Japanese car dead in the middle of two parking spaces. Without saying anything to each other, he and I parked our Saabs about 2 inches from each side of his car, locked the doors and went into the office. During the day, lots of people stopped by our offices to has a laugh about our parking job. Security even came by to congratulate us. We watched him out the window at about 4:00 trying to find a way into his car. Amazingly enough, neither of us went home until about 7:00pm. Actually, we just sat around after about 5:30 and swapped stories and played computer games. We never saw the car in that parking lot again. Just teaching manners to one person at a time. :-) Jim _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun May 29 07:49:50 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 06:49:50 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers Message-ID: <19959463.1306676991228.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> kate wrote: "Quite frankly, I don't care how much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. There were numerous marked spots that were actually closer to the door than I was parked." But you don't seem to understand he WANTED to park that way, and felt that HE was entitled to it! The anal orifice never learned the difference between I want and I need. (Pity you don't have videos of your body modifications by CRUNCH!) From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun May 29 07:57:50 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 09:57:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <3524.36603a49.3b137e6c@aol.com> References: <3524.36603a49.3b137e6c@aol.com> Message-ID: <31525208D0D943F7B61C140EEBF28940@Home> I was having an5sprite's remarkable and very secret family recipe for BBQed ribs last night, and we decided that the biggest difference between the Midget and the Subaru might be the tires. They are hugh compared to the size/weight of the vehicle. A stock Midget can't mount tires correspondingly wide. He loaned me a thicker sway bar to try. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 29 07:59:35 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 13:59:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <002801cc1e06$cb7aee10$6270ca30$@rr.com> References: <25590567.1306628452944.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net><002801cc1e06$cb7aee10$6270ca30$@rr.com> Message-ID: Yup, we need the like button. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Seippel" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 29 May 2011 08:46:21 Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers Back when I worked for a large 3 letter computer company, my neighbor and I arrived at work at about the same time. The main close-in parking lot was always full after 8:00am, which required about a quarter of a mile hike from one of the satellite lots. Close to the building, an in-DUH-vidual had parked a non-descript Japanese car dead in the middle of two parking spaces. Without saying anything to each other, he and I parked our Saabs about 2 inches from each side of his car, locked the doors and went into the office. During the day, lots of people stopped by our offices to has a laugh about our parking job. Security even came by to congratulate us. We watched him out the window at about 4:00 trying to find a way into his car. Amazingly enough, neither of us went home until about 7:00pm. Actually, we just sat around after about 5:30 and swapped stories and played computer games. We never saw the car in that parking lot again. Just teaching manners to one person at a time. :-) Jim _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 29 08:02:49 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 09:02:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <19959463.1306676991228.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <19959463.1306676991228.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: AND, you should indulge his liberal mindset, by allowing him to do ANYTHING he wants, even to the detriment of your job, and financial well being. Obviously you need to pray for hope and change, in your attitude!! LOL On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:49 AM, wrote: > kate wrote: "Quite frankly, I don't care how much damage my rear bumper > and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. There were numerous marked > spots that were actually closer to the door than I was parked." > > But you don't seem to understand he WANTED to park that way, and felt that > HE was entitled to it! The anal orifice never learned the difference > between I want and I need. (Pity you don't have videos of your body > modifications by CRUNCH!) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun May 29 08:03:39 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 10:03:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt In-Reply-To: <361d.1e413d76.3b137fba@aol.com> References: <361d.1e413d76.3b137fba@aol.com> Message-ID: <728D5E5470E54AAEA577D4340473E6B1@Home> I find the inertial belts unsatisfactory for fast driving, as you can't stick yourself firmly in the seat. I have a tendency to slide out (small butt). The old lap belts were much better in this respect. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun May 29 08:20:40 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 14:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt In-Reply-To: <728D5E5470E54AAEA577D4340473E6B1@Home> Message-ID: <940548602.2259363.1306678840248.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I definitely agree with you on this issue. When I was forced to drive my TD down the side of a hill, rolling it four times, had I been stuck in place with a shoulder belt, I wouldn't be here today. With the 4" competition belts that had been installed in the car prior to my purchasing it in 1963, I was able to lean over and grab the floor, restricting injury to my left hip. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:03:39 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt I find the inertial belts unsatisfactory for fast driving, as you can't stick yourself firmly in the seat. I have a tendency to slide out (small butt). The old lap belts were much better in this respect. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sun May 29 08:41:40 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 10:41:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget Message-ID: Some quick pics from yesterday. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at Kevin's house. Started just before 10:00. Engine and tranny out before noon. Tub in the garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I left. All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight buckets by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. Happy Memorial Day. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 29 08:57:59 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 09:57:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Getting it ready for new paint? On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Some quick pics from yesterday. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at Kevin's > house. > > Started just before 10:00. Engine and tranny out before noon. Tub in the > garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I left. > All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight buckets > by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. > > *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* > > If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. > > Happy Memorial Day. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun May 29 09:07:33 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1753599458.1119353.1306681653889.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I kinda miss the bucket holding the car up........just saying......... Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Hefner" To: "Spridgets list" Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:41:40 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget Some quick pics from yesterday. B We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at Kevin's house. Started just before 10:00. B Engine and tranny out before noon. B Tub in the garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I left. B All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight buckets by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. Happy Memorial Day. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun May 29 09:09:47 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt In-Reply-To: <940548602.2259363.1306678840248.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <110605860.1119440.1306681787124.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Kate, Care to tell us more of that story? Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:20:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt I definitely agree with you on this issue. When I was forced to drive my TD down the side of a hill, rolling it four times, had I been stuck in place with a shoulder belt, I wouldn't be here today. With the 4" competition belts that had been installed in the car prior to my purchasing it in 1963, I was able to lean over and grab the floor, restricting injury to my left hip. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:03:39 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt I find the inertial belts unsatisfactory for fast driving, as you can't stick yourself firmly in the seat. B I have a tendency to slide out (small butt). B The old lap belts were much better in this respect. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 29 09:25:17 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 11:25:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: References: <3524.36603a49.3b137e6c@aol.com> Message-ID: <-7531487934606188378@unknownmsgid> I am with Daniel on this one. My 72, with some judicious upgrades, was quite competitive at the Miata club autocrosses. In fact, I had to re-write the rules so that I was running in the unlimited class so as to stop bringing home trophies. The Honduhs appreciated that. I was amused when I went through the Madison Sports Car Club's point system to see what class my car would fall into and found that I would be one class under full race. I guess they thought that those were effective mods as well. Even in stock trim, there is nimbleness to a Spridget that is completely lacking in most other cars. David L From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sun May 29 10:18:34 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 12:18:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll let Larry fill in the details of the work. There is a bit of rust on this tub, so he has another one lined up for paint. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Getting it ready for new paint? > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> Some quick pics from yesterday. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at >> Kevin's >> house. >> >> Started just before 10:00. Engine and tranny out before noon. Tub in the >> garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I left. >> All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight buckets >> by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. >> >> *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* >> >> If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. >> >> Happy Memorial Day. >> >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sun May 29 10:21:00 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 12:21:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget In-Reply-To: <1753599458.1119353.1306681653889.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1753599458.1119353.1306681653889.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Don't miss all the coffee canisters in Kev's garage! They line the shelf along the top. He uses them for parts storage. That's a lot of coffee! Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, wrote: > I kinda miss the bucket holding the car up........just saying......... > > Ryan > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen Hefner" > To: "Spridgets list" > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:41:40 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget > > Some quick pics from yesterday. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at Kevin's > house. > > Started just before 10:00. Engine and tranny out before noon. Tub in the > garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I left. > All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight buckets > by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. > > *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* > > If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. > > Happy Memorial Day. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 29 11:36:06 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 12:36:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Boise, Idaho Car Show !! Message-ID: <4DE28406.9010408@justbrits.com> WHOSE great looking Leaf Green Frogeye is at this show ?> Seen on Dennis Gage's "My Classic Car" on currently !?!? Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun May 29 11:46:20 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 17:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt In-Reply-To: <1584029688.2260856.1306691164355.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1272880491.2260858.1306691180049.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I was driving down the old Lewiston Grade, going to Lewiston, Idaho, from our ranch in Genesee. The road is a delightful 7 mile stretch of switchbacks, dropping about 3000'. While coming around a corner, I met a hay truck and a station wagon full of kids that was attempting to pass it. I had three choices - the front of the truck, the front of the station wagon, or the shortcut down the hill. I chose the latter. The truck stopped to help, but the wagon kept going. Fortunately, a deputy was on the next corner above me and witnessed the whole thing. He stopped him for leaving the scene of an accident, unlawful passing, and whatever other traffic offenses he could think of. He happened to be one of my cousins. After a brief stint in hospital, I received a rather nice settlement. Kate, Care to tell us more of that story? Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:20:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt I definitely agree with you on this issue. When I was forced to drive my TD down the side of a hill, rolling it four times, had I been stuck in place with a shoulder belt, I wouldn't be here today. With the 4" competition belts that had been installed in the car prior to my purchasing it in 1963, I was able to lean over and grab the floor, restricting injury to my left hip. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:03:39 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt I find the inertial belts unsatisfactory for fast driving, as you can't stick yourself firmly in the seat. I have a tendency to slide out (small butt). The old lap belts were much better in this respect. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 29 12:22:54 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 18:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Inertia seat belt In-Reply-To: <1272880491.2260858.1306691180049.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1494680383.572058.1306693374797.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> OUCH!!! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: kgb@ While coming around a corner, I met a hay truck and a station wagon full of kids that was attempting to pass it. I had three choices - the front of the truck, the front of the station wagon, or the shortcut down the hill. I chose the latter. After a brief stint in hospital, I received a rather nice settlement. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 29 13:41:18 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Larry's Midget Message-ID: <70df.5fbeb341.3b13fb5e@aol.com> OK - so why is it being stripped? Also, isn't it time Larry got himself an alloy bellhousing... Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 29/05/2011 15:45:35 GMT Daylight Time, lbc77mg at gmail.com writes: We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at Kevin's house. From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun May 29 14:13:51 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 16:13:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <-7531487934606188378@unknownmsgid> References: <3524.36603a49.3b137e6c@aol.com> <-7531487934606188378@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <23B49D4D9CF9461387E328926E3A6B2D@Home> > Even in stock trim, there is nimbleness to a Spridget that is > completely lacking in most other cars. Nimbleness, of course. Size alone ensures that. But not necessarily raw stability and holding power on a corner. I'll see what the heavier sway bar I borrowed from Steve does for stability. I may have to get a good lap belt, however. My seats have little side support. I suppose I could put in real seats, but they are really hot in Summer. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 29 14:36:31 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 20:36:31 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling Message-ID: To be held in place nothing is better than a 4 point harness. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: David Lieb To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Sent: May 29, 2011 4:13 PM > Even in stock trim, there is nimbleness to a Spridget that is > completely lacking in most other cars. Nimbleness, of course. Size alone ensures that. But not necessarily raw stability and holding power on a corner. I'll see what the heavier sway bar I borrowed from Steve does for stability. I may have to get a good lap belt, however. My seats have little side support. I suppose I could put in real seats, but they are really hot in Summer. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun May 29 14:50:44 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <20110529204619.13C9E187892@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <536164.99421.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Five-point harness? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: From: an5.sprite at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling To: "Mike Rowe" , spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>, "spridgets" Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 4:36 PM To be held in place nothing is better than a 4 point harness. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: David Lieb To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Sent: May 29, 2011 4:13 PM > Even in stock trim, there is nimbleness to a Spridget that is > completely lacking in most other cars. Nimbleness, of course. Size alone ensures that. But not necessarily raw stability and holding power on a corner. I'll see what the heavier sway bar I borrowed from Steve does for stability. I may have to get a good lap belt, however. My seats have little side support. I suppose I could put in real seats, but they are really hot in Summer. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 29 14:52:51 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 20:52:51 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <536164.99421.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20110529204619.13C9E187892@autox.team.net><536164.99421.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I humbly sit correctly by Mr. Healey!!! Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: HealeyRick Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 13:50:44 To: Mike Rowe; ; David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com>; spridgets; Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Five-point harness? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: From: an5.sprite at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling To: "Mike Rowe" , spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>, "spridgets" Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 4:36 PM To be held in place nothing is better than a 4 point harness. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: David Lieb To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Sent: May 29, 2011 4:13 PM > Even in stock trim, there is nimbleness to a Spridget that is > completely lacking in most other cars. Nimbleness, of course. Size alone ensures that. But not necessarily raw stability and holding power on a corner. I'll see what the heavier sway bar I borrowed from Steve does for stability. I may have to get a good lap belt, however. My seats have little side support. I suppose I could put in real seats, but they are really hot in Summer. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun May 29 15:26:52 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 14:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <580706537-1306702453-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1764549141-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <185233.410.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I'm not a racer and don't pretend to be an expert on crash restraint, but have read the anti-submarine belt plays a very important part during a frontal impact. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: From: an5.sprite at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling To: "HealeyRick" , "Mike Rowe" , spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>, "spridgets" Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 4:52 PM I humbly sit correctly by Mr. Healey!!!Sent from me.From: HealeyRick Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT)To: Mike Rowe; ; David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com>; spridgets; Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Five-point harness? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/29/11, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: From: an5.sprite at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling To: "Mike Rowe" , spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>, "spridgets" Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 4:36 PM To be held in place nothing is better than a 4 point harness. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: David Lieb To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Sent: May 29, 2011 4:13 PM > Even in stock trim, there is nimbleness to a Spridget that is > completely lacking in most other cars. Nimbleness, of course. Size alone ensures that. But not necessarily raw stability and holding power on a corner. I'll see what the heavier sway bar I borrowed from Steve does for stability. I may have to get a good lap belt, however. My seats have little side support. I suppose I could put in real seats, but they are really hot in Summer. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun May 29 15:43:14 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 17:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling Message-ID: <2af8c.4eee08e5.3b1417f2@aol.com> Except a six point harness. In a message dated 29/05/2011 21:46:08 GMT Daylight Time, an5.sprite at gmail.com writes: To be held in place nothing is better than a 4 point harness. Steve From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun May 29 15:49:21 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 21:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <119485827.573451.1306705722228.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1406946936.573453.1306705761281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Anti-submarine strap = 1 round the hips = 2 over the shoulders = 2 Total = 5 Where is number 6?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Except a six point harness. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun May 29 15:53:56 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 14:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <2af8c.4eee08e5.3b1417f2@aol.com> Message-ID: <276655.86639.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I see your six-point harness and raise it to a seven point harness! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/29/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling To: an5.sprite at gmail.com, mdrowe at optonline.net, spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, 72spridget at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 5:43 PM Except a six point harness. In a message dated 29/05/2011 21:46:08 GMT Daylight Time, an5.sprite at gmail.com writes: To be held in place nothing is better than a 4 point harness. Steve Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 29 16:02:46 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 17:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <1406946936.573453.1306705761281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1406946936.573453.1306705761281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <5445F18E6CBC40DEAECAE5AD81523EBE@HomePC> Sub strap is a double. -----Original Message----- From: Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:49 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Anti-submarine strap = 1 round the hips = 2 over the shoulders = 2 Total = 5 Where is number 6?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Except a six point harness. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun May 29 16:08:33 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 18:08:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: References: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home> <1608642841.20110527181340@pacifier.com> <990CB170462C4700A3FB59319BDB4DC6@Home> Message-ID: <33FA426C564B41D9AFE9F44CBDF734AF@Home> Hey guys. Lets keep in mind that my Summer seats are cutdown lawn chairs. I think a racing harness would look pretty silly on a lawn chair anywhere but in a nursing home. Of course, it may not be too long before I need exactly that. ;-) Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget driver From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 29 16:11:13 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <276655.86639.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <276655.86639.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <224404.90627.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Personally speaking, I never liked the 5 point harness. jochen rindt ________________________________ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun May 29 16:17:57 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 22:17:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling Message-ID: I do have a fiberglass racing bucket seat you can use. Pretty hard, holds you in place, and as an added bonus, you will be molded to fit the seat. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Sent: May 29, 2011 6:08 PM Hey guys. Lets keep in mind that my Summer seats are cutdown lawn chairs. I think a racing harness would look pretty silly on a lawn chair anywhere but in a nursing home. Of course, it may not be too long before I need exactly that. ;-) Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget driver Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 29 16:23:32 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 17:23:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <224404.90627.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <276655.86639.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <224404.90627.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9860D7C1B45F4F2CBBA8842A112CD736@HomePC> They do make a sweet nutcracker. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:11 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Personally speaking, I never liked the 5 point harness. jochen rindt From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 29 16:26:39 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 17:26:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <33FA426C564B41D9AFE9F44CBDF734AF@Home> References: <754458BF562949D7ACC38564E7576A6E@Home><1608642841.20110527181340@pacifier.com><990CB170462C4700A3FB59319BDB4DC6@Home> <33FA426C564B41D9AFE9F44CBDF734AF@Home> Message-ID: <7193EC6F7A7545C4990DC92E5B56E9BB@HomePC> Michael, you're driving a car that's using lawn chairs for seats and you are worrying that a racing harness will look silly? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:08 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling Hey guys. Lets keep in mind that my Summer seats are cutdown lawn chairs. I think a racing harness would look pretty silly on a lawn chair anywhere but in a nursing home. Of course, it may not be too long before I need exactly that. ;-) Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget driver From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun May 29 16:32:05 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:32:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: <33FA426C564B41D9AFE9F44CBDF734AF@Home> Message-ID: > cutdown lawn chairs Lawn chairs look OK, but the racing harness would look silly? I realize this is all very subjective, but still... From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun May 29 17:43:23 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 16:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Update Message-ID: <960537.64092.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Not a lot of headway on the Nasty Boy, but some progress on the "personalization" (I think this is a Steve Thomton word) front. I realize this isn't everyone's cuppa Earl Grey, but there's a great feeling of fun and freedom in making a Healey your own vision. Check out the link below for the latest: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun May 29 18:37:28 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?cnlhbi5rdWJhbm9mZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 20:37:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Handling?= Message-ID: <20110530003723.7294F18764A@autox.team.net> I call. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "HealeyRick" Date: Sun, May 29, 2011 5:53 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Handling To: , , , <72spridget at gmail.com>, , I see your six-point harness and raise it to a seven point harness! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 5/29/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Handling To: an5.sprite at gmail.com, mdrowe at optonline.net, spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, 72spridget at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 5:43 PM Except a six point harness. In a message dated 29/05/2011 21:46:08 GMT Daylight Time, an5.sprite at gmail.com writes: To be held in place nothing is better than a 4 point harness. Steve Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun May 29 18:59:12 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 19:59:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Update References: <960537.64092.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nasty indeed, looking forward as you are of course to the final installment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: ; Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Nasty Boy Update > Not a lot of headway on the Nasty Boy, but some progress on the > "personalization" (I think this is a Steve Thomton word) front. I realize > this isn't everyone's cuppa Earl Grey, but there's a great feeling of fun > and > freedom in making a Healey your own vision. Check out the link below for > the > latest: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3667 - Release Date: 05/29/11 From lmacy at mac.com Mon May 30 05:19:53 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 07:19:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: References: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <573542.80743.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <598E2180-87A2-48C6-B182-54CA61E532C9@mac.com> If ya all want a friggin' "Like" button get the frig onto the worst privacy violating (notice that it is all "volunteered") web site ever created by commercial man. Face(plant)book. I do not have FUbook and I never will. I like myself too much. We all give up a bit of our privacy every time we sign up on some website. Or join an email list (some of my more embarrassing comments can be found in the archives of this list). But that Mark Z has it down to a science and has convinced folks that "friends" and "likes" are more important than the money he makes selling your info to corporate America. Oh yea, gues that doesn't matter, since corporations are now to be treated as individuals, with the same rights as us poor peons. Leary -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. Sent from my Magical iPad On May 29, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I'd definitely push the "like" button on that!! > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Jay wrote: > >> We need a "like" button. >> >> jay >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "kgb at frontiernet.net" >> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 8:27:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers >> >> >> >> I was by then due at work in 15 minutes, so I chose option "C", and put my >> truck >> in reverse and pushed the Ford out of my way. Quite frankly, I don't care >> how >> much damage my rear bumper and hitch did to his plastic fenders and door. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Mon May 30 06:43:09 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 05:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance Message-ID: <759323.53242.qm@web46401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I will not shove my face into your space if you promise not to stick your face into my space. If any part of my body starts twitching I will not tweet about it. Skip Jackson MHP From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 30 07:29:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:29:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with shipping Bugeye seats. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks everyone, I'm back from my camping trip and getting ready for a 3 day cabin trip with 68 seniors at my school. It turns out the seats are in Georgia so I sent him the fedex and UPS links with the bubble wrap technique. Thanks & I'll keep you all posted, Lin On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Is there anyone from South Carolina coming up my way and can pick up some > Bugeye seats I want to buy? Or is there any other way than Greyhound to ship > seats to me in NJ? I don't really want to go to Newark to get these seats > from the bus because Newark is a scary place. The seats are in Cartersville > SC. The guy said it will cost $150. to bus them up to me, does this sound > right? > > Thanks Linda > PS I guess I'm still on line and not on vacation : ) as I just got this > email. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 30 07:38:48 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:38:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> References: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the transmission attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it because it is more difficult to line up the engine to the transmission on an angle like that? Lin On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 5:12 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > I've built a LOT of engines, and never used an engine stand. However for > some things I think there might be an advantage. > > We had a couple of steel tables in our shop, made out of steel pipe, steel > angles, and pretty thick steel on the top. We would set a block on the > table upside down. Then install the cam bearings, cam and crankshaft. Then > we would screw 4 of the bellhousing bolts into the back of the engine and > turn it up on its back end. The bolts would stick out enough to hold the > block up and provide clearance for the flange end of the crankshaft. Then > we would put the pistons in, put the heads, intake, and covers on. Then we > would paint the whole thing. (A little paint on the table never hurt > anything.) We would bolt a plate with a big loop on it in place of the > carburetor (for V engines), pick the engine up with our hoist, and lower it > into the car. > > Nowadays it seems to be in vogue to use an engine stand, then one of those > little wheel-around hoists to pick up the engine, bolt the transmission on > and wrangle the whole thing into a car. We had a hoist on a track in the > roof of our shop, and we never put engine/transmission in at the same time. > We worked on lots of cars where this would not have been possible due to > the size of the opening. (I defer to the people with experience on LBC's > regarding installing with or without the transmission in place, but for most > other cars it is easier without.) Of course many cars these days use > subframes and it is easier to drop the whole subframe out the bottom. > > > > > I have painted lots of engines without an engine stand. You have to >> paint >> the bottom of the sump first or once it's in a car. >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon May 30 07:43:25 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] THIS IS FROM ME!!! IT is an APOLOGY In-Reply-To: <7440b474-5d2b-41a8-8d77-a796b5860a92@blur> Message-ID: <2122964045.1141431.1306763004996.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hey folks. sorry for the spam.B If it is any concellationB for every one that goes out i get 2 that come in from me.B I am working to eliminate this.B The attempts I made last week apparently were not enough.B I am having a compute r network buddy come and look tomorrow night. Happy memorial day sorry. Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: lgweinraub at gmail.com To: "Philly MG Club" Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 9:21:03 AM Subject: [Philly_MG_Club] Ryan junk mail B Ryan It appears that your computer is still hacked.B This is the second piece of spam that I received today from you via the group email address.B I know it is not your fault but is there anything that can be done to stop this spam so that the rest of us don't get the same virus.B At this point I am afraid to open any email from you. Hope everyone has a happy extended weekend. Lester -----Original message----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net To: spritenut at comcast.net, jose.c.clemente at gsk.com, philly_mg_club at yahoogroups.com, rowergirl2 at gmail.com, saymyname_1 at yahoo.com, gdangelo6118 at gmail.com Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 11:29:39 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Philly_MG_Club] B I cano?=t imagine my life without this more!.. http://arredilferro.com/friends.links.php?kanCID=49s2 __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic ( 2 ) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Visit the Philadelphia MG Club Website http://phillymgclub.com Submit info for the website to lmacy at mac.com, bandwmoyer at verizon.net Add photos to the Yahoo site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Philly_MG_Club/ You can also add Calendar items (so I don't have to do it all the time ;-) Thanks Larry B. Macy Moderator Yahoo! Groups Switch to: Text-Only , Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 30 07:46:00 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:46:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Almost a brown trouser moment. In-Reply-To: <7B1D19C1FE8C446E91D6ADA230DE293C@Home> References: <201105281126.p4SBQnKQ017809@mail.usimperio.com> <7B1D19C1FE8C446E91D6ADA230DE293C@Home> Message-ID: Agreed, nice thing to say Michael. Lin On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Weld it up and redrill the hole. We cheap. >> > > You really ought to do this just to honor Frank's legacy. > > Michael Rowe > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 30 07:52:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:52:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend In-Reply-To: <563048.64640.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1E4BC1504BD84DC28AB52F0AF408B366@frogeye> <563048.64640.qm@web112704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chuck, So sorry we missed you and Maryann. We were probably several feet away from you at all times : ( Looking forward to next year. Maybe we'll get out your way for an OSHIT day : ) Lin On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:19 AM, charles christ wrote: > the show was very hectic on saturday for us. we arived friday night in > the > '67 2 stroke street saab and ended staying up untill 2:30an saturday > morning > with a friend we race with up on the hill in our race > trailer. saturday morning > we arived on the show field and we were converged > upon by saabistas wanting to > see the '60 93f race car and about a thousand > questions folowed. as much as i > tried to get away mary anne & i did not > get to the swap meet until sunday > morning. by then many vendors had left. > funny what people abandon when they > leave. in someone's discarded junk , i > picked up 2 front spridget shocks and > an upper trunion , along with a > throttle cable. yeah i brought all that stuff > home....we had a great time > and i'm still very sore and my neck is sun burned! > > central penn saab club > came here and towed our race car in the trailer out to > carlisle and as of > last night returned the trailer home for us. our tow > vehicle's trans needs > to be rebuilt or we would have towed it. central penn > saab club did a > wonderfull job with all their activities and meals. > > we missed gathering > staurday for lunch with evryone. that bothered me. but > it was very > hectic with two cars on the show field. > weather? pennsylrainia? this was > about the best remembered year weather > wise. vehicle attendance was > impressive too! we are planning to be back next > year with the bugeye and a > saab (not certain which one)! > > chuck > It was great seeing those off the list > that stopped by. > Weather as always was pretty tough Thursday and Friday, heavy > rain and some > lightning nearby > Saturday made up for it to some extent. > Itbs > always wild trying to second guess what parts to bring down there and > how much > of each > Wondering how much longer the event will hang in there based on itbs > dwindling size and the fact itbs the smallest venue there and not well > attended. > But always great talking parts and cars and deals > Alan > _______________________________________________ > ________________________________ > > From: alan > To: list > > Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 8:49:49 PM > Subject: > [Spridgets] Back from Carlisle weekend > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 30 08:13:09 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:13:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <794235781.2253328.1306604452660.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1351402198.2253308.1306604246205.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <794235781.2253328.1306604452660.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Wow Kate I love this story. Did you take any photos of all your stuff tied to your Spridget for the cross country trip? Also like the 1980 restoration. What year is your LBC is it a Midget or a Sprite? We would love to come for a NOSHIT party but can't get that far right now perhaps later. Post photos for all to see. Lin On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:40 PM, wrote: > I think I could qualify for entry into both contests. I originally got mine > in Upstate NY, packed nearly everything I owned in, on, and around it, and > moved to Washington. I then drove her back to NY for what I had left in > storage, and drove back to Washington. From Washington, I moved to three > different homes in Oregon, one about 80 miles from the others. Finally, she > was trailered to Nevada, mainly because there was no way that Gary & I could > drive all 5 vehicles in two trips. > > I have been restoring her since the mid 80s, and the project is ongoing. > Except for the year that she was down while I saved for all the best parts > for her latest rebuild, she was running and driving the entire time. In > fact, she was my ONLY car for over 10 years. > > I am down to the point where I only need to replace the interior panels and > carpeting, and she will be ready for my daughter to paint her, assuming she > actually does come for a visit this summer. I have a few odds & ends to do > cosmetically, just because I want to. I installed the early grille years > ago, as well as the early tail lights. Now I want to remove the bumpers, > patch the holes, and install nerf bars, if I can find some at a reasonable > price. > > If anyone is interested in a N(evada)OSHIT, I can provide rooms at the Red > Lion, which is the best hotel in town. I guarantee that my Spaghetti Caruso > would make Frank's mother jealous, and, since I don't drink it, my beverage > fridge is always full of beer. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Booker" > To: "spridget" > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:49:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports > > I think we should have a contest for longest Spridget restoration, with a > really cool 1st prize. > BZ > > > > ...and another really great prize for Longest > Non-Spridget LBC restroration > (with bonus points for packing it all up and > moving it across state lines > multiple times) > - David Booker > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 30 08:19:26 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:19:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <4DE1393E.2040004@justbrits.com> References: <4DE1393E.2040004@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Yes Ed, it is Franks site, you are only the caretaker and doing a beautiful job. I'll send those scans in a PM. Lin On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << ...maybe Ed would like to put it on his site too? >> > > Needs to be SENT first !?! > > And people, PLEASE get this thru your bullit-riddled, > tequila laced, beer/brewskis 'soaked', 'we-tight-clubish', > O.S.H.I.T. bent, love-of-Sprites, Zappa-loving, (oops) > "X-&-Zoom", feline-wheel-chocks, scrapple, love-of-LBCs- > in-general, and LOVE/RESPECT-of-Frank C3 !!! > > "...his site too..." is NOT, I REPEAT, NOT mine !!!! > > www.spritenut.com BELONGS to Sprite Lovers and is/will > be provided to youse by Frankie VI & Tiffany Clarici !! > > GOT IT, PLEASE ?!?!?!?? > > > Ed > 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com > 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com > Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! > 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: > "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon May 30 08:22:39 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance In-Reply-To: <759323.53242.qm@web46401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <759323.53242.qm@web46401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <646B46904EE34C81A15EB7727227BD6E@Home> >I will not shove my face into your space if you promise not to stick your >face > into my space. If any part of my body starts twitching I will not tweet > about > it. Did you think that was his face? Michael Rowe From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 30 08:23:21 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:23:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <05da01cc1d91$beb247c0$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <05da01cc1d91$beb247c0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Chris I love the photos, BTW did you strip that blue with yellow original color bleeding through (Frank's lounge chair) to repaint or just swap to another tub? Can you update the car with new page of photos and give us details? I love Franks smile that photo should be sent to Ed to put on Franks site : ) Lin On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Chris King wrote: > List, > > Photo is on my website, link on the bottom of this page: > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/shellstrip.html > > Photo itself: > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/Frankbeer.JPG > > -=Chris > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > <-----Original Message-----> > >From: Allen Hefner [lbc77mg at gmail.com] > >Sent: 5/27/2011 10:30:54 AM > >To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank C in Classic Motorsports > > > >I can scan it, but I am at work now. We only have feeder scanners and I > am > >not ripping a page out of my mag! > > > >I will scan it tonight and find someplace to put it on the 'net. Unless > >somebody beats me to it. > > > >BTW, Classic Motorsports is well worth the cost of subscription. It was > >formerly British Car mag, until Tim Suddard bought it out and saved it > from > >extinction. Tim races a TR3, and it is obvious he loves LBCs. I am > sure, > >even without looking, that his project Midget gathered a lot of > comments on > >this list. > > > >Plus, you get a free T-shirt and a very nice wall calendar every year. > >http://classicmotorsports.net is the URL. > > Allen Hefner > >Norristown, PA > > > >*Current:* > >2006 Chebbie > >*Former:* > >1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > >1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > >1964 VW Type I > >1967 VW Type II > >1967 Rover 2000TC > >1977 MG Midget > > > > > >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal > wrote: > > > >> Any way you could scan it, and post it to those that don't subscribe? > >> > >> Thank you Allen, > >> Brad > >> > >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Allen Hefner > wrote: > >> > >>> I received the July 2011 issue of Classic Motorsports yesterday and > >>> Frank's > >>> obit is on page 12. > >>> > >>> Big thanks to Dave Woerpel for his nice writeup. Dave, you captured > the > >>> essence of what we all are thinking. It's a shame because I am > absolutely > >>> certain we could fill an entire issue with stories and pictures of > Frank, > >>> events he attended, his projects, and the projects he helped us all > with. > >>> It might be two issues. > >>> The pic is the one I took. I only have a small .jpg of it, but if > anyone > >>> wants it, just let me know. > >>> Allen Hefner > >>> Norristown, PA > >>> > >>> *Current:* > >>> 2006 Chebbie > >>> *Former:* > >>> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > >>> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > >>> 1964 VW Type I > >>> 1967 VW Type II > >>> 1967 Rover 2000TC > >>> 1977 MG Midget > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage > : > >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> DON JULIO 1942 > >> > >> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu > > > >. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From nases at verizon.net Mon May 30 08:53:40 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53C2684F-3B2E-4D34-8BA8-C8F0B2AD305B@verizon.net> Link to very short video of Saturday easternoshit. http://gallery.me.com/pnase#gallery Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 29, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Some quick pics from yesterday. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at Kevin's > house. > > Started just before 10:00. Engine and tranny out before noon. Tub in the > garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I left. > All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight buckets > by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. > > *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* > > If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. > > Happy Memorial Day. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon May 30 08:59:02 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 14:59:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: It is very hard to line up and bolt a spridget transmission to the engine if it is in the bay. The pan under the tunnel means the transmission must go in first and then with the engine swinging around you need to line up the input shaft and then bolt it together. Not easy to do with the engine. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 30 May 2011 09:38:48 To: BJNoSHOV8 Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the transmission attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it because it is more difficult to line up the engine to the transmission on an angle like that? Lin On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 5:12 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > I've built a LOT of engines, and never used an engine stand. However for > some things I think there might be an advantage. > > We had a couple of steel tables in our shop, made out of steel pipe, steel > angles, and pretty thick steel on the top. We would set a block on the > table upside down. Then install the cam bearings, cam and crankshaft. Then > we would screw 4 of the bellhousing bolts into the back of the engine and > turn it up on its back end. The bolts would stick out enough to hold the > block up and provide clearance for the flange end of the crankshaft. Then > we would put the pistons in, put the heads, intake, and covers on. Then we > would paint the whole thing. (A little paint on the table never hurt > anything.) We would bolt a plate with a big loop on it in place of the > carburetor (for V engines), pick the engine up with our hoist, and lower it > into the car. > > Nowadays it seems to be in vogue to use an engine stand, then one of those > little wheel-around hoists to pick up the engine, bolt the transmission on > and wrangle the whole thing into a car. We had a hoist on a track in the > roof of our shop, and we never put engine/transmission in at the same time. > We worked on lots of cars where this would not have been possible due to > the size of the opening. (I defer to the people with experience on LBC's > regarding installing with or without the transmission in place, but for most > other cars it is easier without.) Of course many cars these days use > subframes and it is easier to drop the whole subframe out the bottom. > > > > > I have painted lots of engines without an engine stand. You have to >> paint >> the bottom of the sump first or once it's in a car. >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 30 10:40:03 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 11:40:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] An arrogance lacking in Spridget drivers In-Reply-To: <598E2180-87A2-48C6-B182-54CA61E532C9@mac.com> References: <1939399418.2258561.1306672073002.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <573542.80743.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <598E2180-87A2-48C6-B182-54CA61E532C9@mac.com> Message-ID: <4DE3C863.9050406@tx.rr.com> I'm not on there because I'm not inventive enough to make up a good profile. My own life is too dull to put on there, I would have to make up something good. Maybe I'll just have to steal lines from Brad Paisley's song. > If ya all want a friggin' "Like" button get the frig onto the worst privacy violating (notice that it is all "volunteered") web site ever created by commercial man. Face(plant)book. > > I do not have FUbook and I never will. I like myself too much. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon May 30 10:51:41 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 11:51:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4DE3CB1D.2020603@tx.rr.com> Connecting engine to transmission is always a challenge, more for a manual transmission than an automatic, but generally you just have to work on it a bit and they go together. I have read that there are difficulties beyond that which affect the LBC install, I don't know about it personally. If you put the engine alone in, you drop it straight down and don't have to change the tilt. That way you can fit an engine into a relatively tight space between firewall and radiator core support. With engine/transmission together you have to tilt them quite a bit to get the transmission to start under the firewall. At some point you have to rotate the assembly to be horizontal and that can be a problem if there isn't much room front/back, which is a big problem with pickups and traditional RWD American cars. With the radiator out on my Midget and everything off of the front of the engine, there is a lot of room front to back. > As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the > transmission attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it > because it is more difficult to line up the engine to the transmission > on an angle like that? From pfeilmat at gmail.com Mon May 30 11:35:49 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:35:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <42DECA31-0048-423B-B3CA-C37E1ACF32A8@gmail.com> I have done both and I have to concur with Frank's preferred way. Pull them both. I did a clutch on a 78 that I had with tranny still in and it was a PITA getting it all back together. I did the clutch in the 76 that I owned by pulling both and it went a hellava lot faster! Even for my f-100 pickup. I installed the 351C to the C-6 trans before and then installed the entire mess in the truck. Easier than engine and tranny separate. Matt P Sent from my iPod On May 30, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the transmission > attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it because it is more > difficult to line up the engine to the transmission on an angle like that? > Lin > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 5:12 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > >> I've built a LOT of engines, and never used an engine stand. However for >> some things I think there might be an advantage. >> >> We had a couple of steel tables in our shop, made out of steel pipe, steel >> angles, and pretty thick steel on the top. We would set a block on the >> table upside down. Then install the cam bearings, cam and crankshaft. Then >> we would screw 4 of the bellhousing bolts into the back of the engine and >> turn it up on its back end. The bolts would stick out enough to hold the >> block up and provide clearance for the flange end of the crankshaft. Then >> we would put the pistons in, put the heads, intake, and covers on. Then we >> would paint the whole thing. (A little paint on the table never hurt >> anything.) We would bolt a plate with a big loop on it in place of the >> carburetor (for V engines), pick the engine up with our hoist, and lower it >> into the car. >> >> Nowadays it seems to be in vogue to use an engine stand, then one of those >> little wheel-around hoists to pick up the engine, bolt the transmission on >> and wrangle the whole thing into a car. We had a hoist on a track in the >> roof of our shop, and we never put engine/transmission in at the same time. >> We worked on lots of cars where this would not have been possible due to >> the size of the opening. (I defer to the people with experience on LBC's >> regarding installing with or without the transmission in place, but for most >> other cars it is easier without.) Of course many cars these days use >> subframes and it is easier to drop the whole subframe out the bottom. >> >> >> >> >> I have painted lots of engines without an engine stand. You have to >>> paint >>> the bottom of the sump first or once it's in a car. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 30 11:46:03 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:46:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: I've done it both ways. I will NEVER do them separately again. Frank was (as usual) right. The only hard part of doing them together is getting the drive shaft back into the tranny tail piece and even that is a piece of cake once you've done it a few times. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the transmission > attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it because it is more > difficult to line up the engine to the transmission on an angle like that? > Lin > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 5:12 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > > > I've built a LOT of engines, and never used an engine stand. However for > > some things I think there might be an advantage. > > > > We had a couple of steel tables in our shop, made out of steel pipe, > steel > > angles, and pretty thick steel on the top. We would set a block on the > > table upside down. Then install the cam bearings, cam and crankshaft. > Then > > we would screw 4 of the bellhousing bolts into the back of the engine and > > turn it up on its back end. The bolts would stick out enough to hold the > > block up and provide clearance for the flange end of the crankshaft. > Then > > we would put the pistons in, put the heads, intake, and covers on. Then > we > > would paint the whole thing. (A little paint on the table never hurt > > anything.) We would bolt a plate with a big loop on it in place of the > > carburetor (for V engines), pick the engine up with our hoist, and lower > it > > into the car. > > > > Nowadays it seems to be in vogue to use an engine stand, then one of > those > > little wheel-around hoists to pick up the engine, bolt the transmission > on > > and wrangle the whole thing into a car. We had a hoist on a track in the > > roof of our shop, and we never put engine/transmission in at the same > time. > > We worked on lots of cars where this would not have been possible due to > > the size of the opening. (I defer to the people with experience on LBC's > > regarding installing with or without the transmission in place, but for > most > > other cars it is easier without.) Of course many cars these days use > > subframes and it is easier to drop the whole subframe out the bottom. > > > > > > > > > > I have painted lots of engines without an engine stand. You have to > >> paint > >> the bottom of the sump first or once it's in a car. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 30 12:02:59 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 14:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling Message-ID: I don't know enough about poker to post a proper reply! In a message dated 29/05/2011 22:53:57 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: I see your six-point harness and raise it to a seven point harness! Rick From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon May 30 12:23:01 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 18:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Handling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <59873733.579665.1306779781397.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> At this point I would call... but then I'm chicken -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com I don't know enough about poker to post a proper reply! In a message dated 29/05/2011 22:53:57 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: I see your six-point harness and raise it to a seven point harness! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon May 30 13:03:06 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 15:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh Message-ID: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> I've only ever done it that way for the reason you identified. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 30/05/2011 14:47:35 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the transmission attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it because it is more difficult to line up the engine to the transmission on an angle like that? Lin From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon May 30 14:40:56 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved. . I Hope Message-ID: So on Saturday my wife wants to go to a local parade in town to watch the expressions on our 2 year grandsons face . . I decide to follow up later in the Bugeye. I am stuck in horrible traffic, but running smoothly as I am wondering why the heck I decided to try and get there later on. . due to the traffic and all the cops directing things. Then my car begins to cut out as though I am out of gas. The gauge shows a 1/4 tank . . but the gauge is not always that accurate. At this point I am stalled along the side of the road. A few minutes later it fires back up and I am able to make it to a gas station to find that I did have about a quarter of a tank. I top it off and drive it to an area where I can further look at it. It runs again. . perfect. Then it cuts out again leaving me stranded in front of a restaurant. I wait, it runs (and runs smooth) to get me home. I pull into our neighborhood and see a garage sale sign on the neighboring street. . so It stalls again while I am half way to the garage sale . . stupid thing to do . . should have taken it back to my garage. It starts again and runs like silk back to my garage. I take off the fuel filter to find that a nipple had closed in on itself leaving only a pin size hole for the gas to get through. I find a new filter in my parts and change it out (something I should have done a long time ago). Then I find that the wiring to my electric fuel pump is dodgy. . as it is beginning to lose it;s connection. I take a couple strands of copper wire from another wire. . and after cleaning the heads of the wire to the pump with my drill and a wire brush attached . .I wrap the strands around my wires . .re-solder the connection with the small wire strands wrapped around to hold it together, slide the shrink wrap up over the connection and shrink it down. . and re-start the car . .* which then blows the fuse that runs in line with the circuit. * I then replace the fuse with another of the same value and it is all running like silk again. Why do you think the fuse blew? First time for a fuse to blow on me for 7 years . . so at this point I am wondering if the new fuse will hold? (I am keeping spare fuses in the car). Would the new connection. . being a solid connection to the Facet. . have been enough to throw the system and cause the fuse to break? I hate not knowing why a fuse blows when it does not seem that it should have. . ? Any ideas are appreciated! Kirk 59 1275 From nases at verizon.net Mon May 30 08:22:32 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:22:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT-Short video Message-ID: <05FC970F-1131-405A-A77A-AC8D7D0B6B44@verizon.net> Here's a link to a short video taken at Kevin's house on Saturday. http://gallery.me.com/pnase#gallery Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon May 30 14:52:12 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:52:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank . Engine Pull Message-ID: >From what Frank told me a long while ago when I had to pull my engine due to a throwout bearing issue. Frank instructed to leave the hood on the car, raising it up as far as I could (as he said that getting the hood back on .. if I took it off . . was a hassle). So I tied the front of the hood up to a bike hanging type hook that I installed into a stud in my garage ceiling . . and with the side props off, I was able to get it up fairly high leaving room to pull the lump. And yes. . I do have the email where he told me to pull the entire lump . . which I did. It seemed to be easier for me to re-align the gear box to the engine with the engine sitting on a stand. Getting it all to go back in I cut a slot on one of the engine mounts (left side mount) so that the two bolts would slide in. . made it MUCH easier to get the engine back in the car. I also cut a small rectangle under the prop shaft in order to line the shaft into the back of the gear box. From what I have been told, no penalty involved to the structure of the car. Kirk 59 1275 From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon May 30 14:52:51 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> Message-ID: <196993644.2272617.1306788771536.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Same here. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: grunthaner at gmail.com, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:03:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh I've only ever done it that way for the reason you identified. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 30/05/2011 14:47:35 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the transmission attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it because it is more difficult to line up the engine to the transmission on an angle like that? Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 30 17:06:44 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 18:06:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved. . I Hope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My knowledge of electronics is from the pretty dusty past, but my guess is that by patching the fuel pump wire that way you have increased the resistance in the wire and that MIGHT have caused the fuse to blow. IF the resistance has been increased, the patch you made could be heating up... I wouldn't trust it. Splice in an identical gauge of wire as a repair. That way the resistance will be the same as the circuit was designed for. Hope your car doesn't catch fire before this reaches you.... Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > So on Saturday my wife wants to go to a local parade in town to watch the > expressions on our 2 year grandsons face . . I decide to follow up later > in > the Bugeye. > > I am stuck in horrible traffic, but running smoothly as I am wondering why > the heck I decided to try and get there later on. . due to the traffic and > all the cops directing things. > > Then my car begins to cut out as though I am out of gas. The gauge shows a > 1/4 tank . . but the gauge is not always that accurate. At this point I am > stalled along the side of the road. A few minutes later it fires back up > and I am able to make it to a gas station to find that I did have about a > quarter of a tank. I top it off and drive it to an area where I can > further > look at it. > > It runs again. . perfect. Then it cuts out again leaving me stranded in > front of a restaurant. I wait, it runs (and runs smooth) to get me home. > I > pull into our neighborhood and see a garage sale sign on the neighboring > street. . so It stalls again while I am half way to the garage sale . . > stupid thing to do . . should have taken it back to my garage. It starts > again and runs like silk back to my garage. > > I take off the fuel filter to find that a nipple had closed in on itself > leaving only a pin size hole for the gas to get through. I find a new > filter in my parts and change it out (something I should have done a long > time ago). Then I find that the wiring to my electric fuel pump is dodgy. > . as it is beginning to lose it;s connection. I take a couple strands of > copper wire from another wire. . and after cleaning the heads of the wire > to the pump with my drill and a wire brush attached . .I wrap the strands > around my wires . .re-solder the connection with the small wire strands > wrapped around to hold it together, slide the shrink wrap up over the > connection and shrink it down. . and re-start the car . .* which then > blows > the fuse that runs in line with the circuit. > * > I then replace the fuse with another of the same value and it is all > running > like silk again. > > Why do you think the fuse blew? First time for a fuse to blow on me for 7 > years . . so at this point I am wondering if the new fuse will hold? (I am > keeping spare fuses in the car). > > Would the new connection. . being a solid connection to the Facet. . have > been enough to throw the system and cause the fuse to break? > > I hate not knowing why a fuse blows when it does not seem that it should > have. . ? > > Any ideas are appreciated! > > Kirk > > 59 1275 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From pdx.pete at frontier.com Mon May 30 17:53:57 2011 From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 23:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Ping Bill L Message-ID: <1296205165.383488.1306799637627.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Please send me an email off list Pete pdx.pete at frontier.com From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon May 30 17:58:49 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 19:58:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off-Topic - MGTD Message-ID: <4DE42F39.1000305@verizon.net> Last August I posted about a TD for sale here near Pittsburgh (20 miles south and east). I spoke with the owner last evening and he says he now "has to move it". He didn't quote a price and I haven't seen the car. Supposedly it has a lot of interesting spares with it; two new bumpers, new engine parts (including a crank) in the original packaging, etc. If anyone is interested, contact me off-list and I'll put you in touch. If anyone crosses over to the MG list, let them know there and feel free to forward my e-mail address. Thanks, regards, CB From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 30 20:37:04 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 22:37:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> References: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> Message-ID: <6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> I, too, have pulled the engine both ways multiple times. If it is my time, effort, and knuckles involved, I am not going to pull the trans unless I need the trans out; especially if it is a Datsun 5-speed! I don't find it to be any harder to slip just the engine back into place than it is to have to pull the shifter, boot, and driveshaft as well as draining and re-filling the transmission. It really isn't that hard to get the input shaft back through the clutch disk if you centered it to the pressure plate when you assembled it. David L From pythias at pacifier.com Mon May 30 21:50:56 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 20:50:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> References: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> <6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <1281256072.20110530205056@pacifier.com> Hello David, I've been waiting for you to weigh in on this debate... I've done it both ways too. It's a pain to get all the bolts back in the bell housing, but no more pain than trying to slide the whole works in and line up the bolts under the car into the tranny. ..... Also, BE's ARE different than Square Bodied Cars. I've never done either in a BE. 10 of one kind, half score of another.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Be nice to your kids. They will choose your nursing home. From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Tue May 31 00:08:27 2011 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 23:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <249008.51922.qm@web111203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://theroomwhere.com/find11.html From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Tue May 31 04:10:37 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 03:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] classic motorsports mag Message-ID: <515373.37133.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> my issue arrived saturday. the first page i opened it to....there was frank. i broke down and cried. chuck. no power here since thursady night's tornados. just ot electric back late yesterday. over 400 emails. no time to read or delete stuff right now. must gather myself and go to work. some holiday weekend. nothing but the sounds of generators and chain saws cutting tree after tree after tree. mary anne & i are ok. others around us are in disarray. this is pennsylvania , not the midwest! we now know the sound that all say "oh , you'll know it when you hear it". one struck ground about a block to the west and another about a block and ahalf to the east. nopower here from thursady night untill late yesterday. lost to do now...like go to work. From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 31 07:07:41 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:07:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <1281256072.20110530205056@pacifier.com> References: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> <6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> <1281256072.20110530205056@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <-4988951232429375346@unknownmsgid> > I've done it both ways too. It's a pain to get all the bolts back > in the bell housing, but no more pain than trying to slide the > whole works in and line up the bolts under the car into the > tranny. ..... > > Also, BE's ARE different than Square Bodied Cars. I've never done > either in a BE. Good point. I have not needed to disturb the engine in my Bugeye yet. I can see how the bonnet could complificate removal of the bellhousing bolts. The longer engine in the 1500 could also be a factor. I guess my RWA Midgets have spoiled me ;-} David L From lbc77mg at gmail.com Tue May 31 08:02:08 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:02:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stripping Midget In-Reply-To: <53C2684F-3B2E-4D34-8BA8-C8F0B2AD305B@verizon.net> References: <53C2684F-3B2E-4D34-8BA8-C8F0B2AD305B@verizon.net> Message-ID: Thanks for the link, Phil. It was great working with you. Just a quick warning. DO NOT do a Google search for "Stripping midget." Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Philip Nase wrote: > Link to very short video of Saturday easternoshit. > > http://gallery.me.com/pnase#gallery > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > > > On May 29, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > Some quick pics from yesterday. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at > Kevin's > > house. > > > > Started just before 10:00. Engine and tranny out before noon. Tub in > the > > garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I > left. > > All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight buckets > > by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. > > > > *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* > > > > If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue May 31 08:51:49 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:51:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh References: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com><6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> <1281256072.20110530205056@pacifier.com> Message-ID: You guys, I have done this maybe 10 times with the tranny and maybe 4 times without. Put me in the "pull the whole thing camp" easy enough in and out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> Cc: Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh > Hello David, > > I've been waiting for you to weigh in on this debate... > > I've done it both ways too. It's a pain to get all the bolts back > in the bell housing, but no more pain than trying to slide the > whole works in and line up the bolts under the car into the > tranny. ..... > > Also, BE's ARE different than Square Bodied Cars. I've never done > either in a BE. > > 10 of one kind, half score of another.... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Be nice to your kids. They will choose your nursing home. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3671 - Release Date: 05/31/11 From bkitterer at me.com Tue May 31 09:18:56 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 08:18:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Lin, I have only done this multiple times with the BE. Except for the first time I always pull and install the engine and tranny together. It saves a lot of knuckles and bad words. However I opt to undue a few more bolts in order to make the operation easier, for me at least. First I use the sling hoist for the hard top to hold and remove the bonnet, eight bolts. First putting location marks on the hinges and bonnet so you can tell when the reassembly is correct while the bonnet is still in the sling. I have never had to go back and realign the bonnet with this method. If the firewall hinge bolts (2) are clear then removing them from the firewall maybe easier yet. Once the bonnet is off I roll the car to the engine hoist location, put the car on body stands, remove the radiator and the four bolts on the rear universal joint so the drive shaft is free. Draining the tranny is a good idea because the oil will run out the back end when the unit is tilted up on the way out of the car putting more oil in the tunnel, frame and garage floor, guess how I know that. Disconnect all the other stuff attached to the engine and tranny. I find that with the bonnet and the radiator out of the way you can put the hoist at the center of balance for the engine and tranny and then just push the tranny down (or lift the front of the engine to get the tilt) with your hand as the assembly comes out or is going back in. This is with a rolling engine hoist. With a fixed hoist I have put the car back on the ground and push it out of the way with a foot or hand as the assembly came out. Most of the time I am working by myself so the fewer things to deal with the better. When reinstalling bring the loose drive shaft forward so it can be connected to the tranny. Try to keep the universal joint out of the drive shaft tunnel, among other things it normally is pretty dirty in there. I do this because I find it a royal PIA to keep the spline end of the drive shaft clean inside the tunnel as well as getting it aligned and in to the tranny. my 2 cents Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On May 30, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > As I recall Frank preferred to install the engine with the transmission > attached. Can anyone on the list tell me why? Is it because it is more > difficult to line up the engine to the transmission on an angle like that? > Lin From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 09:44:01 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:44:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: <-4988951232429375346@unknownmsgid> References: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> <6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> <1281256072.20110530205056@pacifier.com> <-4988951232429375346@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Age and mobility plays a very large part in this. I will be 67 in a few months and have spinal stenosis. Pulling the entire lump is FAR easier for me than trying to contort my very stiff and painful back to undue the bell housing bolts. Even at that, I have problems getting the tranny to frame bolts undone, the speedo cable out, and the clutch slave bolts out. The last time I pulled mine (March) I got it out in about 45 minutes. It's up to each of us to find our own *easy* way to do this job - each according to their ability. The easiest I've ever seen this done was to sit in a lawn chair with a cold one whilst directing several others who are doing the actual work. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:07 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > I've done it both ways too. It's a pain to get all the bolts back > > in the bell housing, but no more pain than trying to slide the > > whole works in and line up the bolts under the car into the > > tranny. ..... > > > > Also, BE's ARE different than Square Bodied Cars. I've never done > > either in a BE. > > Good point. I have not needed to disturb the engine in my Bugeye yet. > I can see how the bonnet could complificate removal of the bellhousing > bolts. The longer engine in the 1500 could also be a factor. I guess > my RWA Midgets have spoiled me ;-} > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 31 09:44:19 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:44:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> This morning I drove through the massive wind farm north of Indy. Of the hundreds and hundreds of windmills visible from I65, I only saw two that were not turning briskly. This is a first for me. Also the first time they've agreed on which direction to face. Perhaps they will now start the Sisyphean task of paying for themselves. David L From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Tue May 31 09:51:20 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:51:20 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 48, Issue 103 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ref. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget . > Don't forget to brace across the door openings if you are doing any work on > the sills ! (do you call them rocker panels or something similar) Alan Warwick UK *********************************************************************************************************** > > > > > > > > On May 29, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > > > Some quick pics from yesterday. We stripped Larry Macy's Midget at > > Kevin's > > > house. > > > > > > Started just before 10:00. Engine and tranny out before noon. Tub in > > the > > > garage (that's where the AC was) and mostly stripped by 4:00, when I > > left. > > > All that was on the car was the rear suspension and the headlight > buckets > > > by then, and I am sure they were all off by the evening. > > > > > > *http://tinyurl.com/3vyma6d* > > > > > > If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try something else. From aseippel at austin.rr.com Tue May 31 09:57:52 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:57:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <4DE16550.6090407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <006301cc1fab$7f867a50$7e936ef0$@rr.com> I have done it both ways. I find it much easier to pull the engine separately. I have never had a problem lining up the engine as long as I have used a lineup shaft to center the clutch disk and put a jack under the transmission to help line it up and hold it steady. That said, here are rules I would use to make the decision to pull only the engine. Any of these would make me decide to pull the engine separately. 1. I only have a chain hoist available. 2. I am working by myself. 3. It is late model body (it is harder to clear an engine/transmission in a late model body). 4. I don't need to work on the transmission. Rules to favor a decision to pull the engine/transmission together. 1. I don't want to pull the hood. 2. I have a helper 3. I need to work on the transmission. 4. I don't care if I spill transmission oil on the floor. 5. I have a portable engine crane available. 6. I have a Datsun 5-speed transmission installed. Jim From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 10:20:02 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:20:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> References: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: You're not supposed to question the cost or the return on investment. If it is "green" and "environmentally friendly" then it must be good, at all costs. From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 31 10:32:09 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:32:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> <6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> <1281256072.20110530205056@pacifier.com> <-4988951232429375346@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: > The easiest I've ever seen this done was to sit in a lawn chair with a > cold > one whilst directing several others who are doing the actual work. To complete this method in true Spridget style, the work really ought to be done by bikini-clad friends of your grandchildren. Michael Rowe Grand daughter only 3 months old. Must wait. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 10:32:41 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:32:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Liberal Mind, No LBC Message-ID: I play ball with a sundry group of gentlemen. We have names like Bob, Manoch, Mohammed, Arafat, Eyad, Steve, Sean, etc. A wide range of backgrounds are represented. Steve is an attorney and the champion of the liberal cause. He rides his bicycle a lot, was president of the local Sierra Club, and is quick to argue against conservative politics. He is a nice, intelligent, mature guy. After one game we were enjoying beverages and talking. Someone asked Steve what he had been doing. He said on the previous day he had driven to New Orleans to attend a protest on carbon emissions. Another guy asked: "Seriously, you drove 180 miles to protest emissions?" "You drove your gasoline powered car 180 miles to protest emissions of gasoline powered cars?" "Yes." I think everyone but Steve laughed at the irony. From pfeilmat at gmail.com Tue May 31 10:32:57 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:32:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: References: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4DF5198C-7A6E-4DD5-8CD1-C45AE4F020E9@gmail.com> Can the same be said about cheese? matt P On May 31, 2011, at 9:20 AM, derf wrote: > You're not supposed to question the cost or the return on investment. > If it is "green" and "environmentally friendly" then it must be good, > at all costs. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 31 10:34:33 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:34:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110531163433.8OCJ5.32689.root@cdptpa-web12-z02> I'm making note of all of the responses to this thread. I'm going to get my lawn chair out and call all of those guys over to re-install mine. > The easiest I've ever seen this done was to sit in a lawn chair with a cold > one whilst directing several others who are doing the actual work. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue May 31 10:44:39 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:44:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Liberal Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't pick on the liberals, it offends your sensibility. Steve obviously can't see outside the box On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:32 AM, derf wrote: > I play ball with a sundry group of gentlemen. We have names like Bob, > Manoch, Mohammed, Arafat, Eyad, Steve, Sean, etc. A wide range of > backgrounds are represented. Steve is an attorney and the champion of > the liberal cause. He rides his bicycle a lot, was president of the > local Sierra Club, and is quick to argue against conservative > politics. He is a nice, intelligent, mature guy. After one game we > were enjoying beverages and talking. Someone asked Steve what he had > been doing. He said on the previous day he had driven to New Orleans > to attend a protest on carbon emissions. Another guy asked: > "Seriously, you drove 180 miles to protest emissions?" "You drove > your gasoline powered car 180 miles to protest emissions of gasoline > powered cars?" "Yes." > I think everyone but Steve laughed at the irony. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 31 10:56:41 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Point #1) Below is an example of the conservative mind in which the sender takes something out of context and labels it in an attempt to support his criticism of something he doesn't support. jay fishbein wallingford, CT ________________________________ From: derf To: Spridgets Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 12:32:41 PM Subject: [Spridgets] The Liberal Mind, No LBC I play ball with a sundry group of gentlemen. We have names like Bob, Manoch, Mohammed, Arafat, Eyad, Steve, Sean, etc. A wide range of backgrounds are represented. Steve is an attorney and the champion of the liberal cause. He rides his bicycle a lot, was president of the local Sierra Club, and is quick to argue against conservative politics. He is a nice, intelligent, mature guy. After one game we were enjoying beverages and talking. Someone asked Steve what he had been doing. He said on the previous day he had driven to New Orleans to attend a protest on carbon emissions. Another guy asked: "Seriously, you drove 180 miles to protest emissions?" "You drove your gasoline powered car 180 miles to protest emissions of gasoline powered cars?" "Yes." I think everyone but Steve laughed at the irony. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 11:25:49 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:25:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What did I take out of context? A liberal friend of mine thought driving 180 miles to protest emissions was a good thing. I thought it was funny. If he had ridden his bicycle, it would have been better, IMHO, both for the environment and the protest. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jay wrote: > Point #1) Below is an example of the conservative mind in which the sender takes > something out of context and labels it in an attempt to support his criticism of > something he doesn't support. From peter at nosimport.com Tue May 31 11:33:33 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:33:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> References: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <201105311033794.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> On my trek to ensure all of the Spridget faithful will have a great time in Elkhart Lake last Saturday, I drove by many windmills. I find it very pleasing to the eye.... much better than the coal plant that I live 2 miles from. I stopped and walked as close as legally permissible to listen... and I heard, that "Dynamo Hum". Much more pleasant than the coal fired power plant near me... which also hums, but has trains clanking well into the night, and steam rising all winter such that we have different weather than folks 4 miles away. Probably wouldn't drop ash on my house, either. Peter C == At 10:44 AM 5/31/2011, David Lieb wrote: >This morning I drove through the massive wind farm north of Indy. Of >the hundreds and hundreds of windmills visible from I65, I only saw >two that were not turning briskly. This is a first for me. Also the >first time they've agreed on which direction to face. Perhaps they >will now start the Sisyphean task of paying for themselves. >David L >_______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 11:56:39 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:56:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <201105311033794.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> <201105311033794.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> I drove through that same field of windmills on the way to meeting up with you guys. I couldn't help but think of the comments made by certain of our more "conservative" members regarding anything to do with being green or preserving our environment. It makes me wonder how they became so enamored with stinking, polluted cesspools. Do they actually like breathing polluted air and drinking polluted water? I wonder if they like living in filthy toilets? Odd people for certain. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:33 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again On my trek to ensure all of the Spridget faithful will have a great time in Elkhart Lake last Saturday, I drove by many windmills. I find it very pleasing to the eye.... much better than the coal plant that I live 2 miles from. I stopped and walked as close as legally permissible to listen... and I heard, that "Dynamo Hum". Much more pleasant than the coal fired power plant near me... which also hums, but has trains clanking well into the night, and steam rising all winter such that we have different weather than folks 4 miles away. Probably wouldn't drop ash on my house, either. Peter C From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 31 12:04:47 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> Message-ID: <979680438.592224.1306865087036.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> A sign at my buddies pool.. "We don't swim in your toilet. Please don't pee in our pool" -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" I wonder if they like living in filthy toilets? Odd people for certain. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 31 12:25:38 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:25:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> Message-ID: <20110531182538.PKRRG.182457.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> I think they are a good idea and I hope they are worthwhile. I really don't know the details though. I'd like to have one in my back yard. I would have my house plugged into it, lights on all the time, etc. I would have some windows in the main shaft, maybe a little balcony on the side partway up so I could go up there and watch the scenery. I'm suspicious that the windmill fields are planned, promoted and managed by idiots. I've yet to go by a group of them that more than a few were actually running. How dumb is it to spend the money building them and then not use the energy that they can produce. But to really answer your question, I'm afraid that so many people have promoted green conservation schemes that they have tainted anything that has to do with conservation, to the point that now everything related to conservation reminds people of crackpots. I'm all for legitimate ways to conserve, ways that really make sense. Whenever I hear about a Prius, all I can think about is all of the energy used to ship their batteries around the world twice, and what the junk batteries may do to the environment in the future. > I drove through that same field of windmills on the way to meeting up with > you guys. I couldn't help but think of the comments made by certain of our > more "conservative" members regarding anything to do with being green or > preserving our environment. It makes me wonder how they became so enamored > with stinking, polluted cesspools. Do they actually like breathing polluted > air and drinking polluted water? I wonder if they like living in filthy > toilets? Odd people for certain. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue May 31 13:26:42 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:26:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Jay wrote: Point #1) Below is an example of the conservative mind in which the sender takes something out of context and labels it in an attempt to support his criticism of something he doesn't support. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The crap that I find offensive is when a government official has a jet at her disposal that cost $60K in fuel to haul her ass to Kalifornia from DC and back who has the audacity to tell me that I can only buy CFL light bulbs in the near future to replace my 100W incandescent bulbs because they are "energy efficient"! WTF? I think that the wind farms are neat to look at. I drove past them last week too... There is a larger farm close to the Texas/New Mexico border that is something to see. I drove past it at night and saw the red flashing lights. Didn't figure it out until the return trip just at dusk and the lights started to show again. It is really something to see when the horizon is wall-to-wall red lights then goes off! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From pchast at francomm.com Tue May 31 13:31:38 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've got to agree. Its not "Green at any cost." With reasonable ability and utility without intrusion, I'm all for it. I protested when local electric companies closed all the little hydro dams in this state and tore them out for the fish!!! The fishing is worse now. Almost non-existent. Pete Athens, NY - On Tue, 31 May 2011 13:25:49 -0400, derf wrote: > > What did I take out of context? A liberal friend of mine thought > driving 180 miles to protest emissions was a good thing. > I thought it was funny. If he had ridden his bicycle, it would have > been better, IMHO, both for the environment and the protest. > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jay wrote: >> Point #1) Below is an example of the conservative mind in which the >> sender takes >> something out of context and labels it in an attempt to support his >> criticism of >> something he doesn't support. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From peter at nosimport.com Tue May 31 13:34:32 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 02:26 PM 5/31/2011, CosmicMag1380 wrote: >On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Jay wrote: >Point #1) Below is an example of the conservative mind in which the >sender takes something out of context and labels it in an attempt to >support his criticism of something he doesn't support. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The crap that I find offensive is when a government official has a jet >at her disposal that cost $60K in fuel to haul her ass to Kalifornia >from DC and back who has the audacity to tell me that I can only buy >CFL light bulbs in the near future to replace my 100W incandescent >bulbs because they are "energy efficient"! WTF? ======== But Kent, if you can generate that much anger over a light bulb (and I'm kind of pissed about that myself), why aren't we all really, really, really mad about Wall Street, banks, and the rest of the scurvy devils? Peter C From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue May 31 13:46:13 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:46:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <20110531182538.PKRRG.182457.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> References: <20110531182538.PKRRG.182457.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Message-ID: <7BABEA62-B9B2-41BA-950C-93FE314EF0D7@comcast.net> Agreed. What is theoretically possible and what happens in practice are two VERY different things Lester On May 31, 2011, at 1:25 PM, wrote: > I think they are a good idea and I hope they are worthwhile. I really don't know the details though. I'd like to have one in my back yard. I would have my house plugged into it, lights on all the time, etc. I would have some windows in the main shaft, maybe a little balcony on the side partway up so I could go up there and watch the scenery. > > I'm suspicious that the windmill fields are planned, promoted and managed by idiots. I've yet to go by a group of them that more than a few were actually running. How dumb is it to spend the money building them and then not use the energy that they can produce. > > But to really answer your question, I'm afraid that so many people have promoted green conservation schemes that they have tainted anything that has to do with conservation, to the point that now everything related to conservation reminds people of crackpots. I'm all for legitimate ways to conserve, ways that really make sense. Whenever I hear about a Prius, all I can think about is all of the energy used to ship their batteries around the world twice, and what the junk batteries may do to the environment in the future. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 13:47:25 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:47:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> References: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> <201105311033794.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> Message-ID: You've missed the whole point... The conservative position has nothing to do with pollution. It has to do with cost effectiveness. Nobody likes pollution but if that's all you can afford..... Besides, it is a fact that they are killing millions of little birdies!! Save the birdies!! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I drove through that same field of windmills on the way to meeting up with > you guys. I couldn't help but think of the comments made by certain of our > more "conservative" members regarding anything to do with being green or > preserving our environment. It makes me wonder how they became so enamored > with stinking, polluted cesspools. Do they actually like breathing > polluted > air and drinking polluted water? I wonder if they like living in filthy > toilets? Odd people for certain. > > > LAD > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Caldwell > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:33 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again > > On my trek to ensure all of the Spridget faithful will have a great > time in Elkhart Lake last Saturday, I drove by many windmills. I find > it very pleasing to the eye.... much better than the coal plant that > I live 2 miles from. > I stopped and walked as close as legally permissible to > listen... and I heard, that "Dynamo Hum". Much more pleasant than > the coal fired power plant near me... which also hums, but has trains > clanking well into the night, and steam rising all winter such that > we have different weather than folks 4 miles away. > Probably wouldn't drop ash on my house, either. > > Peter C > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 13:55:22 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:55:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: why aren't we all really, really, really mad about Wall Street, banks, and the rest of the scurvy devils? Wall street, big industry, big government, unresponsive legislators, deficit spending, exploding national debt, intrusive laws..... Why?? Because there are too damned many scurvy devils out there to concentrate on any one while the others eat your lunch! ;-) Cheers!! Jim From jdinnis at gmail.com Tue May 31 14:00:03 2011 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:00:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I disagree. The "why" because too many mindless American mindlessly vote for Republicans and Democrats instead of evaluating each candidate for who they are and what they stand for. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Peter Caldwell > wrote: > > why aren't we all really, really, really mad about Wall Street, banks, and > the rest of the scurvy devils? > > Wall street, big industry, big government, unresponsive legislators, > deficit > spending, exploding national debt, intrusive laws..... Why?? Because > there > are too damned many scurvy devils out there to concentrate on any one while > the others eat your lunch! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 14:21:30 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I agree. I think there should be money invested in some technologies that are considered by some to be "green". I, too, do not like the "green at any cost" approach. Wind power has been used for a long time. If we can make electricity from wind power then we should do it. But, it needs to produce enough power to pay for itself. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:00 PM, John Innis wrote: > I disagree. The "why" because too many mindless American mindlessly vote > for Republicans and Democrats instead of evaluating each candidate for who > they are and what they stand for. > Too often it comes down to the lesser of two evils. I would gladly support a democrat if a good one would come along. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 31 14:23:58 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> Are American's toilets so big that people could swim in them? Weslake-Monza 1330 from England were most things are smaller.. In a message dated 31/05/2011 19:18:37 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at frontier.com writes: "We don't swim in your toilet. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue May 31 14:29:50 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Really? Message-ID: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I just received a couple of flyers in the mail today from Harbor Freight. On the back of the coupon flyer right at the top of the back page is a yellow box that states: LIFETIME WARRANTY on all hand tools. How many return trips to the store is that going to be!?! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue May 31 14:32:12 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: References: <7921243936084945077@unknownmsgid> <201105311033794.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> Message-ID: <476DD603-8466-48CC-861C-54CDCA55B24C@comcast.net> ... and lets not forget the rainforest!! Please, please, please find and watch the end of the "Rainforest episode" or it may be listed as Getting Gay with Kids episode of Southpark. Especially the very end of it.. ;-) Lester On May 31, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > You've missed the whole point... The conservative position has nothing to > do with pollution. It has to do with cost effectiveness. Nobody likes > pollution but if that's all you can afford..... > > Besides, it is a fact that they are killing millions of little birdies!! > Save the birdies!! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > >> I drove through that same field of windmills on the way to meeting up with >> you guys. I couldn't help but think of the comments made by certain of our >> more "conservative" members regarding anything to do with being green or >> preserving our environment. It makes me wonder how they became so enamored >> with stinking, polluted cesspools. Do they actually like breathing >> polluted >> air and drinking polluted water? I wonder if they like living in filthy >> toilets? Odd people for certain. >> >> >> LAD >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Caldwell >> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:33 PM >> To: Spridgets >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again >> >> On my trek to ensure all of the Spridget faithful will have a great >> time in Elkhart Lake last Saturday, I drove by many windmills. I find >> it very pleasing to the eye.... much better than the coal plant that >> I live 2 miles from. >> I stopped and walked as close as legally permissible to >> listen... and I heard, that "Dynamo Hum". Much more pleasant than >> the coal fired power plant near me... which also hums, but has trains >> clanking well into the night, and steam rising all winter such that >> we have different weather than folks 4 miles away. >> Probably wouldn't drop ash on my house, either. >> >> Peter C >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue May 31 14:33:17 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:33:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Red glow & ZDDP In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9c4a79$cbjkjh@email.mtu.edu> > Didn't figure it out until the return trip just >at dusk and the lights started to show again. It is really something >to see when the horizon is wall-to-wall red lights then goes off! Apparently all to often the red glow on the horizon is from a wind turbine gear box fire. Dow Corning (local company) is working on a solution. Car related item: DC made a molybdenum disulfide engine oil additive (molykote) that provided wear protection up to 500,000 psi. I wonder how molykote stacks up against ZDDP? I don't think they make it anymore but what they typically do is spin off a new invention to another company to make and market. So it may be available somewhere. Anyone know? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 14:34:15 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:34:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <20110531182538.PKRRG.182457.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> References: <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> <20110531182538.PKRRG.182457.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Message-ID: I guess we're spoiled here by the nuclear plant. It cost a bundle, but puts out lotsa power. I know a bunch of guys employed there. I don't think hardcore "greenies" are told all the details of their Prius when they buy them. They have a "green" stigma and that is PC right now so people buy them. I'm all for wind, hydro, geothermal, and solar power generation. I still think driving 180 miles to protest emissions is silly. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue May 31 14:34:39 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:34:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: John, I fear that you may be a little naive. If Americans evaluated each candidate for who and what they are then we would have to build much bigger prisons to hold all of the politicians!!! Lester On May 31, 2011, at 3:00 PM, John Innis wrote: > I disagree. The "why" because too many mindless American mindlessly vote > for Republicans and Democrats instead of evaluating each candidate for who > they are and what they stand for. > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Peter Caldwell >> wrote: >> >> why aren't we all really, really, really mad about Wall Street, banks, and >> the rest of the scurvy devils? >> >> Wall street, big industry, big government, unresponsive legislators, >> deficit >> spending, exploding national debt, intrusive laws..... Why?? Because >> there >> are too damned many scurvy devils out there to concentrate on any one while >> the others eat your lunch! ;-) >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jdinnis at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > ================================= > = Never offend people with style when you = > = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = > ================================= > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 14:36:26 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:36:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> References: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:23 PM, wrote: > Are American's toilets so big that people could swim in them? > > Weslake-Monza 1330 from England were most things are smaller.. > No. Do you guys still have overhead tanks? That is one idea that seems "green" to me that we've gotten away from. It seems to me like low flow with gravity assist velocity would be efficient. From pvanwig at me.com Tue May 31 14:40:08 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:40:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh In-Reply-To: References: <38d29.7113dc85.3b1543e9@aol.com> <6499516157558990230@unknownmsgid> <1281256072.20110530205056@pacifier.com> <-4988951232429375346@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: HEY don't be giving all the secrets away! Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear pvanwig at Mac.com Sent from my iPhone So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons) On May 31, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > The easiest I've ever seen this done was to sit in a lawn chair with a cold > one whilst directing several others who are doing the actual work. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 14:47:46 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:47:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <93EEADF504BE4A1EBFA0C02D1996EE80@HomePC> I had an off-list conversation about the cost effectiveness of today's technology with a lister who no longer posts to the list. This is what I said to him regarding the efficiency of today's equipment: "The way I see it is we need to start walking before we can run. Nothing ever designed was perfect from the get-go, but we have to start somewhere. Cars today make cars 100 years ago look ridiculously inefficient and crude, yet we wouldn't have these cars today if we didn't start out with those cars 100 years ago. Same thing here. We need to start this ball rolling even if today's product isn't as good as we hope tomorrow's product will be." So, if we don't start working on the technology until it is perfect, we never will start. When we are out of oil is a hell of a time to start developing an alternative. Think far enough ahead to not be out of options. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree. I think there should be money invested in some technologies that are considered by some to be "green". I, too, do not like the "green at any cost" approach. Wind power has been used for a long time. If we can make electricity from wind power then we should do it. But, it needs to produce enough power to pay for itself. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 14:50:07 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:50:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I broke a HF impact socket. I took it back for exchange and the lady told me I should bring back the whole set because they would rather exchange the whole set than open a set and give me one replacement. HF quality is not far behind Craftsman nowadays. I do admit I'll grab a Craftsman screwdriver over a Snap-On or Wiha when it is time to pry because finding a Snap-On or Wiha dealer is harder than going to Sears once a quarter or so and exchanging. From biffjones at verizon.net Tue May 31 14:55:47 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:55:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> Mike, Read the fine print. You return the tool to the main company in California, shipping on you, plus return postage! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" >I just received a couple of flyers in the mail today from Harbor Freight. >On > the back of the coupon flyer right at the top of the back page is a yellow > box > that states: LIFETIME WARRANTY on all hand tools. How many return trips > to > the store is that going to be!?! From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue May 31 15:03:04 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> Message-ID: <661218.90524.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I don't see no stinkin "fine print". It's just a single statement in a yellow box. No fine print. That being said, it sounds like something HF would do. Their outlets would spend half their time replacing tools. Mike >________________________________ >From: Biff Jones >To: Michael MacLean ; spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:55 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Really? > >Mike, > >Read the fine print. You return the tool to the main company in California, shipping on you, plus return postage! >----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" >> I just received a couple of flyers in the mail today from Harbor Freight. On >> the back of the coupon flyer right at the top of the back page is a yellow box >> that states: LIFETIME WARRANTY on all hand tools. How many return trips to >> the store is that going to be!?! From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 31 15:07:28 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:07:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> References: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> Message-ID: <40E8D0B9970A4349B4D18ADE2F9C0F7F@Home> > Are American's toilets so big that people could swim in them? Only in Texas. Michael Rowe From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 15:10:25 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:10:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> Message-ID: No, I just take it back to the local store. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Biff Jones wrote: > Mike, > > Read the fine print. You return the tool to the main company in California, > shipping on you, plus return postage! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 15:11:50 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:11:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <40E8D0B9970A4349B4D18ADE2F9C0F7F@Home> References: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> <40E8D0B9970A4349B4D18ADE2F9C0F7F@Home> Message-ID: <6F15AD981CE743C1942DB323747E92E8@HomePC> Geez, Michael. Are you saying Texans are big asses? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:07 PM To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com ; kk7ss at frontier.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again > Are American's toilets so big that people could swim in them? Only in Texas. Michael Rowe Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue May 31 15:24:32 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:24:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: <8543840.1306877073074.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> derf wrote: "Do you guys still have overhead tanks?" Oh,they are still there, depending upon the age of the house. And, FYI, when you were little, how did your Mommy and Daddy ask, when you had to go to the bathroom? "Do you have to do Number One or Number Two?" The basis for this is that in England, some early toilets still remain where you toggle the handle ONE time if you have just urinated, and TWO times if you deficated. ONE, of course, used less water, and TWO used more. One side note. Sir Thomas Crapper did not invent the toilet, he just was the biggest manufacturer. American soldiers in WWI were supposedly fascinated by the name emblazoned on them: Crapper, and brought the word home with them after the war. Buster Evans From biffjones at verizon.net Tue May 31 15:49:52 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:49:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> <661218.90524.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61A12BBA1A3B4B888A8BDCCBC2B82100@dell1> I stand corrected. Just went to HF's website and they have changed the warranty program! Return it to the store for exchange or refund within 90 days of purchase along with the sales recepit. It has been a while since I last checked. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: Biff Jones ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:03 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Really? I don't see no stinkin "fine print". It's just a single statement in a yellow box. No fine print. That being said, it sounds like something HF would do. Their outlets would spend half their time replacing tools. Mike 11 From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 31 15:57:38 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:57:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: <61A12BBA1A3B4B888A8BDCCBC2B82100@dell1> References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> <661218.90524.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <61A12BBA1A3B4B888A8BDCCBC2B82100@dell1> Message-ID: > I stand corrected. Just went to HF's website and they have changed the > warranty program! Return it to the store for exchange or refund within 90 days > of purchase along with the sales recepit. It has been a while since I last > checked. It is supposed to be "lifetime" on hand tools now... David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 15:58:30 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <93EEADF504BE4A1EBFA0C02D1996EE80@HomePC> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <93EEADF504BE4A1EBFA0C02D1996EE80@HomePC> Message-ID: I agree on this concept. The big energy companies started developing wind power a very long time ago. For a while I was a meteorologist working on this problem as an employee of a BIG energy (Oil) company back in the 1970s and I was a "Johnnie come lately" to the project. Gradually some of the problems (and cost overruns) of wind power are being solved, but we aren't yet at a point where they are cost effective and reliable. Ask Florida Light and Power who has huge wind farms out here on the high plains where there is more wind than almost any other place in the country. Walk before we can run...yes. But we started walking a very long time ago when it comes to this form of renewable energy and we are not yet at the point where we can run. The tax payer and the federal budget simply cannot YET afford to subsidize wind generated electricity. A few more years.... Maybe... And I'll be happy to endorse shutting down other energy sources at that time. Just curious, what makes you think no one was working on this technology starting a long time ago and continuing through the present? That's just not true. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I had an off-list conversation about the cost effectiveness of today's > technology with a lister who no longer posts to the list. > > This is what I said to him regarding the efficiency of today's equipment: > > "The way I see it is we need to start walking before we can run. > Nothing ever designed was perfect from the get-go, but we have to start > somewhere. Cars today make cars 100 years ago look ridiculously > inefficient > and crude, yet we wouldn't have these cars today if we didn't start out > with > those cars 100 years ago. Same thing here. We need to start this ball > rolling even if today's product isn't as good as we hope tomorrow's product > will be." > > So, if we don't start working on the technology until it is perfect, we > never will start. When we are out of oil is a hell of a time to start > developing an alternative. Think far enough ahead to not be out of > options. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I agree. I think there should be money invested in some technologies > that are considered by some to be "green". I, too, do not like the > "green at any cost" approach. > Wind power has been used for a long time. If we can make electricity > from wind power then we should do it. But, it needs to produce enough > power to pay for itself. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 16:02:32 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:02:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <8543840.1306877073074.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <8543840.1306877073074.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Crapper? I thought his name was $hitter!! And the Navy thinks his name was Head. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:24 PM, wrote: > derf wrote: "Do you guys still have overhead tanks?" > > Oh,they are still there, depending upon the age of the house. And, FYI, > when you were little, how did your Mommy and Daddy ask, when you had to go > to the bathroom? "Do you have to do Number One or Number Two?" > > The basis for this is that in England, some early toilets still remain > where you toggle the handle ONE time if you have just urinated, and TWO > times if you deficated. ONE, of course, used less water, and TWO used more. > > One side note. Sir Thomas Crapper did not invent the toilet, he just was > the biggest manufacturer. American soldiers in WWI were supposedly > fascinated by the name emblazoned on them: Crapper, and brought the word > home with them after the war. > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 31 16:02:36 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:02:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <6F15AD981CE743C1942DB323747E92E8@HomePC> References: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> <40E8D0B9970A4349B4D18ADE2F9C0F7F@Home> <6F15AD981CE743C1942DB323747E92E8@HomePC> Message-ID: <88DDBD5502F24A5489DA6D13533D0CEE@Home> > Geez, Michael. Are you saying Texans are big asses? Everything is bigger in Texas. Butt I generalize. Michael Rowe From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 16:05:29 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:05:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> <661218.90524.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <61A12BBA1A3B4B888A8BDCCBC2B82100@dell1> Message-ID: Yes... But they don't tell you whose lifetime! It's Usama bin Laden's. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > It is supposed to be "lifetime" on hand tools now... > David L From millerls at ado13.com Tue May 31 16:11:56 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:11:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> References: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> Message-ID: <31D85938-BBDE-4D92-ABDD-A99F39B2BE96@ado13.com> Daniel, The complete quote is "we don't swim in your toilet, so don't pee in our pool" On May 31, 2011, at 1:23 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Are American's toilets so big that people could swim in them? > > Weslake-Monza 1330 from England were most things are smaller.. > > In a message dated 31/05/2011 19:18:37 GMT Daylight Time, > kk7ss at frontier.com writes: > > "We don't swim in your toilet. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 16:14:18 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:14:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><93EEADF504BE4A1EBFA0C02D1996EE80@HomePC> Message-ID: <8F56103D387247FBAB8D76173103F80B@HomePC> And zzziiinnngggg goes the whole point right past you. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:58 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC I agree on this concept. The big energy companies started developing wind power a very long time ago. For a while I was a meteorologist working on this problem as an employee of a BIG energy (Oil) company back in the 1970s and I was a "Johnnie come lately" to the project. Gradually some of the problems (and cost overruns) of wind power are being solved, but we aren't yet at a point where they are cost effective and reliable. Ask Florida Light and Power who has huge wind farms out here on the high plains where there is more wind than almost any other place in the country. Walk before we can run...yes. But we started walking a very long time ago when it comes to this form of renewable energy and we are not yet at the point where we can run. The tax payer and the federal budget simply cannot YET afford to subsidize wind generated electricity. A few more years.... Maybe... And I'll be happy to endorse shutting down other energy sources at that time. Just curious, what makes you think no one was working on this technology starting a long time ago and continuing through the present? That's just not true. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I had an off-list conversation about the cost effectiveness of today's > technology with a lister who no longer posts to the list. > > This is what I said to him regarding the efficiency of today's equipment: > > "The way I see it is we need to start walking before we can run. > Nothing ever designed was perfect from the get-go, but we have to start > somewhere. Cars today make cars 100 years ago look ridiculously > inefficient > and crude, yet we wouldn't have these cars today if we didn't start out > with > those cars 100 years ago. Same thing here. We need to start this ball > rolling even if today's product isn't as good as we hope tomorrow's > product > will be." > > So, if we don't start working on the technology until it is perfect, we > never will start. When we are out of oil is a hell of a time to start > developing an alternative. Think far enough ahead to not be out of > options. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I agree. I think there should be money invested in some technologies > that are considered by some to be "green". I, too, do not like the > "green at any cost" approach. > Wind power has been used for a long time. If we can make electricity > from wind power then we should do it. But, it needs to produce enough > power to pay for itself. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 31 16:14:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1669877792.595932.1306880063362.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> In Holland, wind power is used to power mills. In the Outback of Oz, as in some areas of American, windmills are used to pump water. Those were the 'baby steps' of windpower But that's going back quite away back!! In England and in Eastern America, water mills were used to grind cereals and to power factory machinery. Sadly 'Baby' never got to grow up until "Big Money" saw a profit. Nomex suit ON! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue May 31 16:21:47 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:21:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><31CF6221FC704EB7961CEF41FDBA5727@dell1> <661218.90524.qm@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On the hand tools you can just take them back to your local store. My kid bought me a HF flex ratchet as a gift a few years ago that I had to take back when it stripped. They just handed me a new and off I went. On the subject of what is the worth of a warranty. Back in the '80's I worked for a tool supply co. here in the Seattle area. I would often be asked by customers why they should by a tool from a manufacture like Milwaukee, Skill, Makita, Bosch, Delta, Jet... that ONLY have one year warranties when they could buy other lesser name tools that were cheaper and carried a life time warranty. The logic always was that they would be money ahead and could always get it replaced if it broke. In every case the tools that carried a one year warranty had repair/warranty stations in the local metropolitan area. The cheaper lifetime warranty tools usually required returning it to the main office (usually Las Angeles) for evaluation on your dime. It usually seemed like I was having this discussion about table saws that would be pricey to return. I would tell them it is better to have a good one year warranty that you may not use but can than it is to have a lifetime that you will have to use and can't. Since I bought up the idea of "value" I will share this. Back then HF also sold tools wholesale to us. We would buy cheap 40 piece socket sets just to have something on the low end while we sold SK, and Proto to the jobbers. These socket set cost us$3.99 and we would mark them up to $9.00. We would sell some, but not a lot. The owner wanted to move them out so I remerchandized them and he had me raise the price to $11.00. We sold out of them. Priced to cheap people think they are a poor product. Priced higher and people think it's a value. Keep that in mind while shopping. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" To: "Biff Jones" ; Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Really? >I don't see no stinkin "fine print". It's just a single statement in a >yellow > box. No fine print. That being said, it sounds like something HF would > do. > Their outlets would spend half their time replacing tools. > Mike >>________________________________ >>From: Biff Jones >>To: Michael MacLean ; spridgets at autox.team.net >>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:55 PM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Really? >> >>Mike, >> >>Read the fine print. You return the tool to the main company in > California, shipping on you, plus return postage! >>----- Original Message > ----- From: "Michael MacLean" >>> I just received a > couple of flyers in the mail today from Harbor Freight. On >>> the back of the > coupon flyer right at the top of the back page is a yellow box >>> that states: > LIFETIME WARRANTY on all hand tools. How many return trips to >>> the store is > that going to be!?! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 31 17:36:27 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:36:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4DE57B7B.2020108@tx.rr.com> The scurvy devils are better organized than we are. Each group of them has their own thing that they want, they make a plan and work towards it, and figure out how to get our money before we discover their plan. We on the other hand have to be on the look out for attacks from lots of different directions, and we would rather spend our time doing our own thing such as spending time on our cars, etc. so we don't want to spend a lot of time discovering these scurvy devils. I like to think that if a politician stated that they wanted to reform wallstreet and fix this and fix that, that they would attract attention and votes. However I think most of the voters are ignorant and are out for their own thing, so the politician that supports wallstreet also has something else he promises that is attractive to some part of the voters and gets elected despite the bad things he wants to support. Too many voters have selfish interests in mind that benefit them but don't benefit the majority of people. > But Kent, if you can generate that much anger over a light bulb (and > I'm kind of pissed about that myself), why aren't we all really, > really, really mad about Wall Street, banks, and the rest of the > scurvy devils? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 31 17:50:02 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:50:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DE57EAA.1070805@tx.rr.com> I think you have to evaluate each HF product on its own merits. I have bought some that worked well and some that didn't. In one instance I bought myself a Craftsman wire cutter and I bought my daughter a HF wire cutter. She needed to cut a small bolt to attach a shelf to a wall and she couldn't do it with her HF cutter. I went out in my garage and cut one easily with my Craftsman cutter. The next time I visited her I got out her HF cutter and sure enough even though it looked almost identical to my Craftsman tool, I could not cut the small bolt even using all of my strength. My Craftsman tool cut the bolt easily. > HF quality is not far behind Craftsman nowadays. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 17:58:04 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:58:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: <4DE57EAA.1070805@tx.rr.com> References: <703761.90648.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4DE57EAA.1070805@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > > HF quality is not far behind Craftsman nowadays. >> > That may be an indictment of Craftsman... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue May 31 18:05:16 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Really? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <356765.8636.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> You know who would have had some interesting views to add to this thread? Here's a hint , Crapsman, Horrible Freight ..... Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Really? To: Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 7:58 PM On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > > HF quality is not far behind Craftsman nowadays. >> > That may be an indictment of Craftsman... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 31 18:11:02 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <201105311033794.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <316567.29029.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The difference is the coal plant is actually making power. --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Peter Caldwell wrote: > From: Peter Caldwell > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 12:33 PM > On my trek to ensure all of the > Spridget faithful will have a great time in Elkhart Lake > last Saturday, I drove by many windmills. I find it very > pleasing to the eye.... much better than the coal plant that > I live 2 miles from. > I stopped and walked as close as legally > permissible to listen... and I heard, that "Dynamo > Hum". Much more pleasant than the coal > fired power plant near me... which also hums, but has trains > clanking well into the night, and steam rising all winter > such that we have different weather than folks 4 miles > away. > Probably wouldn't drop ash on my > house, either. > > Peter C > == > At 10:44 AM 5/31/2011, David Lieb wrote: > > This morning I drove through the massive wind farm > north of Indy. Of > > the hundreds and hundreds of windmills visible from > I65, I only saw > > two that were not turning briskly. This is a first for > me. Also the > > first time they've agreed on which direction to face. > Perhaps they > > will now start the Sisyphean task of paying for > themselves. > > David L > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Tue May 31 18:12:09 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> References: <7301b.4861cb6d.3b16a85e@aol.com> Message-ID: <848104.37870.qm@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Our government mandated smaller toilets that flush with 1.6 gallons of water. The first ones didnbt work well and were always plugging and now some sewer districts are having problems with not having enough water in the pipes to wash the solids down. Some of the conservation plans arenbt very thought out. B Bill W ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" To: kk7ss at frontier.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 1:23:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Are American's toilets so big that people could swim in them? Weslake-Monza 1330 from England were most things are smaller.. In a message dated 31/05/2011 19:18:37 GMT Daylight Time,B kk7ss at frontier.com writes: "WeB don't swim in your toilet. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 31 18:19:22 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 17:19:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <848104.37870.qm@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Our government mandated smaller toilets that flush with 1.6 gallons of water. Our government banned the 1.6 gallon toilets and mandated 1.28 gallon. They don't work for crap (pun intended). The next time we tour out of state, I'm bringing home a few 1.6 gallon toilets. BZ From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 31 18:27:20 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:27:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: References: <848104.37870.qm@web112714.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >> Our government mandated smaller toilets that flush with 1.6 gallons of water. > Our government banned the 1.6 gallon toilets and mandated 1.28 gallon. > They don't work for crap (pun intended). The next time we tour out of state, > I'm bringing home a few 1.6 gallon toilets. One of the things they used to search your car for when you came back from Canada was toilets that didn't meet US regulations ;-) David L From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue May 31 18:29:57 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:29:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: References: <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> <20110531182538.PKRRG.182457.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Message-ID: <4DE58805.9000000@tx.rr.com> I wonder what the economic problem is with wind energy. Everything boils down to turning a generator. 1. We can buy a generator, connect it to a steam turbine, dig a big hole somewhere to retrieve coal, haul it hundreds of miles on a train, burn it in a boiler to power the turbine, figure out how to clean the emissions, and sell the electricity. And all of this requires a pretty expensive facility to operate. 2. Or we can buy a generator, connect it to a steam turbine, dig a big hole somewhere to retrieve uranium, process the uranium, let it generate heat which eventually creates steam to power the turbine, figure out what to do with the used uranium, and sell the electricity. And all of this requires a VERY expensive facility to operate. 3. We can buy a generator, put it up on top of a stick, the FREE wind powers the generator, and we sell the electricity. No smoke to clean, no uranium to store. Why is this not cheaper? > I guess we're spoiled here by the nuclear plant. It cost a bundle, > but puts out lotsa power. I know a bunch of guys employed there. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 18:35:09 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:35:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <316567.29029.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <316567.29029.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <23B9A009795647B3841BFDBC474CAD1A@HomePC> -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:11 PM To: Spridgets ; Peter Caldwell Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again The difference is the coal plant is actually making power. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And polluting the air your family breathes. Whereas the windmill also makes power -- but no pollution. Certainly, if you don't love your family, that won't make any difference. From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 31 18:50:20 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <4DE58805.9000000@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <16331355.598106.1306889420550.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> That's a Very good question.. Why is it not cheaper? I don't know! Who's on First? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJNoSHOV8" Why is this not cheaper? From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 31 18:55:55 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <4DE58805.9000000@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <1122174027.598226.1306889755680.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Hydroelectric Dams produce power with zero by-products and run for as long some tree-hugger doesn't get upset about a 0.5" fish that nobody eats! BTW, in Salmon season, the same Indians that complain about dams causing a decrease in their catch, drive here in trucks and try to sell fresh salmon at $2-$3 a pound -- and get very few takers! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:06:40 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:06:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <4DE58805.9000000@tx.rr.com> References: <13D54662E8774069A5F35C22EC9489A5@HomePC> <20110531182538.PKRRG.182457.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> <4DE58805.9000000@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: It would take a couple thousand big generators on a stick to power the same grid as a small nuclear reactor. Then the wind would have to blow constantly. I wonder how big a big generator on a stick would need to be to power the average American home. As of now, big generators on a stick are not cheap, either. > 3. We can buy a generator, put it up on top of a stick, the FREE wind > powers the generator, and we sell the electricity. No smoke to clean, no > uranium to store. Why is this not cheaper? > >> I guess we're spoiled here by the nuclear plant. It cost a bundle, >> but puts out lotsa power. I know a bunch of guys employed there. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:28:08 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 01:28:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <4DE57B7B.2020108@tx.rr.com> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4DE57B7B.2020108@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: I have been trying not to get sucked into this thread. I failed. If you want to get rid of the bankers and wall street you must hate capitalism and therefore you are likely a communist!! Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: BJNoSHOV8 Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:36:27 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC The scurvy devils are better organized than we are. Each group of them has their own thing that they want, they make a plan and work towards it, and figure out how to get our money before we discover their plan. We on the other hand have to be on the look out for attacks from lots of different directions, and we would rather spend our time doing our own thing such as spending time on our cars, etc. so we don't want to spend a lot of time discovering these scurvy devils. I like to think that if a politician stated that they wanted to reform wallstreet and fix this and fix that, that they would attract attention and votes. However I think most of the voters are ignorant and are out for their own thing, so the politician that supports wallstreet also has something else he promises that is attractive to some part of the voters and gets elected despite the bad things he wants to support. Too many voters have selfish interests in mind that benefit them but don't benefit the majority of people. > But Kent, if you can generate that much anger over a light bulb (and > I'm kind of pissed about that myself), why aren't we all really, > really, really mad about Wall Street, banks, and the rest of the > scurvy devils? _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:30:00 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:30:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <20110601012835.05BF218792A@autox.team.net> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DE57B7B.2020108@tx.rr.com> <20110601012835.05BF218792A@autox.team.net> Message-ID: But capitalists make the best cars, no? On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM, wrote: > I have been trying not to get sucked into this thread. I failed. > > If you want to get rid of the bankers and wall street you must hate capitalism and therefore you are likely a communist!! > > Steve From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue May 31 19:30:02 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 01:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <1802888677.598770.1306891743398.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1323058307.598784.1306891802162.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The Nine Canyon Wind Project here at Kennewick, WA (12 miles from my house) occupies 75 of the 400+acres reserved for the project and the 63 turbines produce up to a maximum of 95.9 megawatts A direct cut and paste from Energy Northwest's (project manager) own fact sheet makes interesting reading: Quote: The turbines are self-starting and begin generating electricity when wind speed reaches 8 mph. Generation increases as the wind speed increases, with full power achieved at about 35 mph. If winds exceed 55 mph on a sustained basis, the turbines shut down automatically by engaging a large disc brake and restart when the winds fall below 45 mph. The pitch of the blades is automatically adjusted to maximize power generation from the available wind. Unquote: Second quote (from the same page): Wind energy is typically more expensive than coal, natural gas and nuclear power options, but often less than solar, biomass, and developmental technologies like wave and tidal power. Unquote: IIRC we've only had one turbine burn up this year! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" I wonder how big a big generator on a stick would need to be to power the average American home. As of now, big generators on a stick are not cheap, either. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 31 19:35:57 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:35:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <20110601012834.BA13C18791D@autox.team.net> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4DE57B7B.2020108@tx.rr.com> <20110601012834.BA13C18791D@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <7B305C47-A17A-48EC-86EF-8A1DB044F65C@snet.net> The inference was that Wall Street and the big banks should be held accountable. Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 31, 2011, at 9:28 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > If you want to get rid of the bankers and wall street you must hate capitalism and therefore you are likely a communist!! From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:36:47 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 01:36:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC Message-ID: I do not think there is 1 decent car made in a communist country. China will get there, but then again they are becoming more capitalistic. Happy 40th birthday to any Pinto owners. Steve ------Original Message------ From: derf To: an5.sprite at gmail.com Cc: BJNoSHOV8 Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC Sent: May 31, 2011 9:30 PM But capitalists make the best cars, no? On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM, wrote: > I have been trying not to get sucked into this thread. I failed. > > If you want to get rid of the bankers and wall street you must hate capitalism and therefore you are likely a communist!! > > Steve Sent from me. From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:44:48 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:44:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wind energy again Message-ID: <26662117146C433B8E73923F5F75BE96@Inspiron> Last year about 200 ducks got caught in a late spring storm and landed in a tailing pond where the Alberta Oil Sands are being developed. The company was fined $200.00 per bird, the Green Movement wanted the Board of Directors drawn and quartered. Every year there are thousands of birds killed passing thru wind mill farms around the country, but that's Ok, its clean energy, birds don't matter in this case. Greg Higgins From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:58:24 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 01:58:24 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC In-Reply-To: <7B305C47-A17A-48EC-86EF-8A1DB044F65C@snet.net> References: <584289.84459.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><201105311234936.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4DE57B7B.2020108@tx.rr.com><20110601012834.BA13C18791D@autox.team.net><7B305C47-A17A-48EC-86EF-8A1DB044F65C@snet.net> Message-ID: If by accountable you are referring to the recent economic downturn then holding banks and wall street accountable only hit on 2 of the groups that are at fault. The fault lies with: 1) Homeowners that lied on their application or bought houses they could not afford because they thought house prices only go up. 2) The mortgage brokers that "helped" some applicants improve the "look" of the mortgage application 3) The politicians that thought everyone should own a home regardless of their economic reality and started the CRA to make sure it happened 4) The regulators that pushed the banks to make bad loans because of CRA and ignored the bubble 5) Fannie Mae (technically someplace between a government agency and private company) that worked hard to expand home ownership. 6) Banks - already been said 7) Rating agencies that rated securities way higher than logical. They get a double wammy since they are supposed to be an important gate keeper. 8) Wall street Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:35:57 To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Conservative Mind, No LBC The inference was that Wall Street and the big banks should be held accountable. Jay -An iPhone communication- On May 31, 2011, at 9:28 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > If you want to get rid of the bankers and wall street you must hate capitalism and therefore you are likely a communist!! _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 31 20:11:42 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <23B9A009795647B3841BFDBC474CAD1A@HomePC> Message-ID: <146827.84307.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Larry Daniels wrote: > certainly, if you don't love your family, that won't make > any difference. Crap, I have been found out...I believe coal is ultimately a better solution so I don't love my family. I can't believe you picked up on that, Larry! Love you anyway, man, Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 20:20:47 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:20:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <146827.84307.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <146827.84307.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, so buy me a beer (or three) and I won't tell Lynette and the boys what an evil bastard you are! Larry -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:11 PM To: Spridgets ; Peter Caldwell ; Larry Daniels Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Larry Daniels wrote: > certainly, if you don't love your family, that won't make > any difference. Crap, I have been found out...I believe coal is ultimately a better solution so I don't love my family. I can't believe you picked up on that, Larry! Love you anyway, man, Ron From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 31 20:24:46 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:24:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <146827.84307.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <23B9A009795647B3841BFDBC474CAD1A@HomePC> <146827.84307.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gee, I was trying to be positive and comment that it finally looked as if this wind farm might be in business... Sorry I mentioned it; the guilt is unbelievable. I guess the only socially responsible people in our midst are the ones who purchase Spridgets, disassemble them in their garage and thus permanently remove these sources of pollution from our roadways (and those of Canadia as well). Let me see... Larry D, Billy Z, maybe the other real Larry might be headed in this direction. Now that my GTi got "doored" today, I guess I will have to revert to driving a Spridget when the bicycle isn't adequate. Gonna have to finish resurrecting my old Raleigh Grand Prix onto the Raleigh Super Course Mark II frame, too, so I can pedal my British one-seater to protest meetings. David L From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 31 20:49:18 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <236794.75466.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think they are getting wise to me. But I'll buy anyway. --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Larry Daniels wrote: > From: Larry Daniels > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again > To: "Ron Soave" , "Spridgets" , "Peter Caldwell" > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 9:20 PM > Yeah, so buy me a beer (or three) and > I won't tell Lynette and the boys what > an evil bastard you are! > > Larry > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Soave > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:11 PM > To: Spridgets ; Peter Caldwell ; Larry Daniels > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again > > --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Larry Daniels > wrote: > > certainly, if you don't love your family, that won't > make > > any difference. > > Crap, I have been found out...I believe coal is ultimately > a better solution > so I don't love my family. I can't believe you picked up on > that, Larry! > > Love you anyway, man, > Ron From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue May 31 20:56:36 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:56:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Hill Climb Message-ID: <4DE5AA64.9000402@verizon.net> Sorry if this has been addressed; Taking into account the Top Gear segment with the Bugeye racing the 'green thing' at Prescott Hill is there anyone from this list in that video? Thanks, CB From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue May 31 21:02:26 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:02:26 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] wind energy again Message-ID: <5271092.1306897346501.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Greg Higgins wrote" "...the Green Movement wanted the Board of Directors drawn and quartered." That's strange. That is EXACTLY what the Luddites wanted to do! Look at who won. Aren't you glad for that? Buster Evans From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 23:29:05 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:29:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <16331355.598106.1306889420550.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <4DE58805.9000000@tx.rr.com> <16331355.598106.1306889420550.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Let me list the ways... Turbines are VERY expensive to make... Turbines VERY expensive to erect.... Somebody has to be paid for the land they stand on.... Turbines don't last long (wear and tear issues)... Turbines require frequent maintenance by expensive technicians... The power grid infrastructure is not in place to support wind farms and is very expensive to build... What do you do for power when the wind doesn't blow? Batteries sufficient to store a day or two's worth of KW hours in the power grid would cost more than a coal fired plant does. Same problem as electric cars... Battery technology isn't up to the task yet.... In short, nothing is as simple as it seems - Murphy's law, first Axiom... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > That's a Very good question.. > Why is it not cheaper? > I don't know! > Who's on First? > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BJNoSHOV8" > Why is this not cheaper? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 23:31:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:31:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <146827.84307.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <23B9A009795647B3841BFDBC474CAD1A@HomePC> <146827.84307.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, you scum!! If you really loved your family, you'd sit, shivering in the dark with them!! On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Larry Daniels wrote: > > certainly, if you don't love your family, that won't make > > any difference. > > Crap, I have been found out...I believe coal is ultimately a better > solution so I don't love my family. I can't believe you picked up on that, > Larry! > > Love you anyway, man, > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 23:34:35 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:34:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <23B9A009795647B3841BFDBC474CAD1A@HomePC> References: <316567.29029.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23B9A009795647B3841BFDBC474CAD1A@HomePC> Message-ID: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > And polluting the air your family breathes. > So, you're sayin' you don't trust the vaunted EPA's air quality monitoring and regulations? Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 31 23:36:34 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 00:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wind energy again In-Reply-To: <5271092.1306897346501.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <5271092.1306897346501.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I would have drawn them too.... But I broke my pencil... Cheers!! Drill Baby Drill! On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:02 PM, wrote: > Greg Higgins wrote" "...the Green Movement wanted the Board of Directors > drawn > and quartered." > > That's strange. That is EXACTLY what the Luddites wanted to do! Look at > who won. Aren't you glad for that? > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org