From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Mar 1 00:19:51 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt In-Reply-To: <853535.64948.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1933481794.870944.1298963991700.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I'm sorry. That was my fault. Somebody saw me installing the pontoons along the frame rails. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" , "Jay" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:45:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt --- On Mon, 2/28/11, Jay wrote: > beer, trade cars, drink some more beer, see if cars float > in the hotel pool and Guys, Who spilled the beans about the car floating contest? Ron Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 1 06:06:55 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:06:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt In-Reply-To: <853535.64948.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <16488.96258.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <853535.64948.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here comes the 'how wide a tire can I fit on my spridget' thread again ... ;) RD > --- On Mon, 2/28/11, Jay wrote: > > beer, trade cars, drink some more beer, see if cars float > > in the hotel pool and > > Guys, > > Who spilled the beans about the car floating contest? > > Ron > _______________________________________________ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 1 14:25:21 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:25:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> Message-ID: WOW, wish parking tickets were that cheap here in NY. Got a BS "Not parked in a marked stall" ticket. $110!! Plead not guilty, as it is a private parking lot. Then they send me a "Consultation" letter, which is code for come in and if you plead guilty to a lesser charge, they may reduce they fine, but add $25 fee for "Court costs" If you plead not guilty again, they say, "we'll mail you a date for the trial." Another Scam of Nassau County, They have a parking garage for the traffic Court. Costs a dollar an hour. After going inside to get change for it, I ask the pay clerk, I need change for the parking meter, She says "Oh, you don't have to pay after 5 pm."!!! No signs annotating this ANYWHERE! WTF??? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! >> > Same thing with parking on the street in front of my office. There is a two > hour time limit. I park there every day for at least two periods greater > than two hours. I could park in a lot a block and a half away for $20 a > month, but I prefer to take my chances. Two or three times a year I get an > $11 parking ticket. Should I bitch? Hell, no! > > I speed every single day I drive. I've had two speeding tickets in 40 years > of driving. Am I gonna complain if I get caught? > > Get real, guys. > > > LAD From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 1 14:27:04 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:27:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Personalised LBC plate question In-Reply-To: <4D6A829D.1000202@justbrits.com> References: <1386682304.1602518.1298822011608.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, , <950808033.1602542.1298822181050.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, , <4D6A829D.1000202@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Ok Ed, what is the difference between a personalized plate and a vanity plate? Inquiring minds...... Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > I *HATE* them RD, which IS why both of our LBCs & my '70 > Camino have/had "Personalized Plate - STANDARD" plates [can't afford > VANITY Plates" which are over THREE [3] as much > $$$$$ !! > > > > Ed From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 1 14:31:26 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:31:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shipping Booze In-Reply-To: <4D69D319.6080009@justbrits.com> References: <6C1F477BD02F4835965F3AC4955493D5@OfficePC>, <20110226233221.0BAB7187662@autox.team.net>, <2272DBB06A2D404C91DDF9281AC8A8AA@RikerPC>, <4D69D319.6080009@justbrits.com> Message-ID: EVERYONE know that when it comes to shocks.... Peterbuilts are the best!!!! :-) Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > And a GOOD possibility of **ANOTHER* *one as in Best > i.e. Peterbuilt better than Kenworth !! > > !! > > PPP From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Mar 1 14:42:58 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:42:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Off topic posts *AND* LBC content! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sawzall. Lester .. you can have my Atlatl when you pry it from my cold dead throwing arm... On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > You know... I never did get a *good* answer to my question about > getting at > the last few bolts that hold the dash in place. Or maybe I did and > just > didn't understand it... Anyway, > I'll interrupt at this point to ask again.... How the hell do I > get to the > bolts (2?) to the driver's side of the tranny tunnel. I cannot lay > on my > back in that car unless I want to have back surgery. I'm still > trying to get > my back working again after taking out the 2 bolts on the passenger's > side!! This is the only thing I lack to getting the tub completely > stripped > and ready for sanding and painting!! The weather is finally > starting to > cooperate and now the car has me stopped dead! I gotta get the damn > dash > off!!! > > Cheers!! > Jim - he of the spinal stenosis.... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Mar 1 14:44:59 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:44:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Obligatory cat content... time marches on.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Atlatl?? Really? Ever since we figured out how to make bowstrings out of catgut we put those damn Atlatls in the fire! Lester On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > snip > > Cheers!! > Jim - he of the spinal stenosis.... > snip > > As the anthropologists say, "When Atl-Atls are outlawed, only > outlaws will > have Atl-Atls." > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:58 PM, derf wrote: > >> The "gun lobby" does not want crazy people to get guns either. The >> "anti-gun lobby" does not want anyone to have guns. If they get >> their >> way then only the criminals will be armed with guns, and the >> government. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From peter at nosimport.com Tue Mar 1 14:54:44 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:54:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt In-Reply-To: <16488.96258.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <16488.96258.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201103011354559.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Jay, One of the events will be "Removing 2 center dash screws" Jim J will be leading, and it'll start on Monday and maybe end on Thursday night..... ED ----- At 10:43 PM 2/28/2011, Jay wrote: >Since I didn't receive a response to my first question, I will ask it another >way. > > > >When will the schedule of events be published/posted? >Or maybe I should ask: Will a schedule of events be posted? >Or should I assume that everyone is going to arrive and just hang >around, drink >beer, trade cars, drink some more beer, see if cars float in the >hotel pool and >stuff like that? > >jay fishbein >wallingford, ct From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Mar 1 15:21:26 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:21:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> Message-ID: <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> On 3/1/2011 4:25 PM, brian S wrote: > WOW, > > wish parking tickets were that cheap here in NY. > > Got a BS "Not parked in a marked stall" ticket. > $110!! My daughter broke an axle on her VW Jetta in NY city, it was in front of a gas station but the wheel was locked into the fender and the car could not even be pushed. A wrecker was called but meanwhile New York's finest told her to move the car or get a parking ticket. She said a wrecker was coming and the idiot cops could see a busted axle and the wheel smashed into the fender but they still could not figure out WHY the car could not move. Those MFers MAILED her a parking ticket for $175. So when I see a NY cop or hear of any cop wanting any kind of money, I think of this and let em know just how I feel about cops. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 1 16:39:43 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:39:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Change from Generator to 1-wire Alternator In-Reply-To: <4CA2942F.9050808@comcast.net> References: <03db01cb5f70$a4d6d670$6401a8c0@normoffice> <4CA2942F.9050808@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8EC8B373FA4742AC8208C0543A68DABB@spider> I have a 1979 MG Midget with lucas alternator. Where is the voltage regulator located. ...bill in corvallis ======================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:20 PM To: twobees at sprynet.com Cc: Spridgets Digest; Vintage Racing Digest; MG Digest; MGVR at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Change from Generator to 1-wire Alternator On 9/28/2010 8:52 PM, Norm 2Bs wrote: > HELP! My old crew and auto electrical expert, now racer himself, is still > in Connecticut (Hi, Jim)& I'm stumped by this conversion. > Here's what I have on the regulator terminals: > A1 - 2 brown/blue wires > A - 1 brown/white > F - 1 yellow/green > D - 2 yellow > E - 2 black Norm On the small jap 1 wire alternators, take the large "B" (battery) terminal from the alt and hook it to the 3 large wires at the regulator. That would be the wires from A1, A, & D on the regulator. If you want the ignition light to work, hook the small yellow wire from D and the yellow/green wire from F together, the small wire (field) at what was the generator now goes to one of the small terminals on the alternator, 1 is usually a tickler terminal, the other works the ign light. If it does not light on the first terminal, don't worry, it will not fry anything in the alternator, try the 2nd terminal. Most jap alts have a "T" shaped plug terminal, it is usually the vertical let of the "T" that works the ign lamp. Not always but on all Mitsubitchi alts. If you want to keep the regulator for looks, gut it internally except for the connector from A1 & A, those 2 terminals are already hooked together inside the regulator. Run a jumper inside from D to A now all 3 are hooked together, A, A1, & D, keep the wires as they were except for the small one on terminal D, connect that wire to the original wire on terminal F so the ign lamp works. Just keep the black wire on E (earth) as it now has no purpose. If your regulator is still good, do NOT gut it, find a dead one to gut and just solder a stout wire inside from A to D. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 1 17:34:23 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:34:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Change from Generator to 1-wire Alternator In-Reply-To: <4D6D8E0D.6030503@comcast.net> References: <03db01cb5f70$a4d6d670$6401a8c0@normoffice> <4CA2942F.9050808@comcast.net> <8EC8B373FA4742AC8208C0543A68DABB@spider> <4D6D8E0D.6030503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <809403AD12314DD29F67BF48356B9B5E@spider> Thanks for the several answers I got on this. This helps. ...bill in corvallis. =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 4:24 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Change from Generator to 1-wire Alternator On 3/1/2011 6:39 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > I have a 1979 MG Midget with lucas alternator. Where is the voltage > regulator located. ...bill in corvallis > ======================================================== Inside the alternator, it's got something to do with the diode pack that always goes bad. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 18:08:55 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 01:08:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> Message-ID: I had my car towed in Brooklyn, which cost way too much to get your car back. It turned out New York City decided that you cannot park on the last 30 feet of curb on the block. They installed a new sign to that effect. 10 days later - come home at night, it is raining, see the spot and park. I was feeling pretty good. Next day the car is gone, I see new cement on the sidewalk and the new sign. I go pickup the car pay almost $200. Off to court I go and they tell me no fine if it was 7 days or less but 10 I'm screwed, would not even negotiate a lower amount. ?!/?!!! Was all I could say. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: brian S Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:25:21 To: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Parking tickets WOW, wish parking tickets were that cheap here in NY. Got a BS "Not parked in a marked stall" ticket. $110!! Plead not guilty, as it is a private parking lot. Then they send me a "Consultation" letter, which is code for come in and if you plead guilty to a lesser charge, they may reduce they fine, but add $25 fee for "Court costs" If you plead not guilty again, they say, "we'll mail you a date for the trial." Another Scam of Nassau County, They have a parking garage for the traffic Court. Costs a dollar an hour. After going inside to get change for it, I ask the pay clerk, I need change for the parking meter, She says "Oh, you don't have to pay after 5 pm."!!! No signs annotating this ANYWHERE! WTF??? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! >> > Same thing with parking on the street in front of my office. There is a two > hour time limit. I park there every day for at least two periods greater > than two hours. I could park in a lot a block and a half away for $20 a > month, but I prefer to take my chances. Two or three times a year I get an > $11 parking ticket. Should I bitch? Hell, no! > > I speed every single day I drive. I've had two speeding tickets in 40 years > of driving. Am I gonna complain if I get caught? > > Get real, guys. > > > LAD _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kgrowler at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 19:31:56 2011 From: kgrowler at gmail.com (Kim Tonry) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:31:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt Message-ID: Ron Soave said: Is that a question or statement? I think it was Keith Moon. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Mar 1 22:31:18 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 00:31:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> Message-ID: Funny how these excessive citations show up when the economy is in the dumps. Always tread with caution during these times...and teach your kids that too. -----Original Message----- Those MFers MAILED her a parking ticket for $175. So when I see a NY cop or hear of any cop wanting any kind of money, I think of this and let em know just how I feel about cops. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 1 23:01:09 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:01:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> << Funny how these excessive citations show up when the economy is in the dumps. Always tread with caution during these times... and teach your kids that too. >> True but can't say much about a "parent" professing THAT !!!! How about to start with "teaching" them NOT to break the LAW(s) in the 1st place ?? What a concept !!!! Ed From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 1 23:38:00 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:38:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Personalised LBC plate question In-Reply-To: References: <1386682304.1602518.1298822011608.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, , <950808033.1602542.1298822181050.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, , <4D6A829D.1000202@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4D6DE5C8.1060402@justbrits.com> WithOUT looking up the actual Statute, Brian....... << what is the difference between a personalized plate and a vanity plate? >> *_Personalized_ * plates are up to 6 letters FOLLOWED by a number, up to five [5] letters FOLLOWED bu two [2] numbers, up to four [4] letters FOLLOWED by three [3] numbers, and so on. Fer instance I have " AH BJ 7 " [= 7 digits - spaces count.] on my Big Healey and " CINSB73 " on Cindy's Black Tulip MGB. *_Vanity_* plates are up to seven [7] letters & NO numbers. Fer instance, legit example would be: " SPRITE ", " MIDGET ", " HEALEY ", " SPM ", "EDKALER ", " SHOX ", " PPPETEP ", " DMH ", And even something like " AH BJ " [= 7 digits - spaces DO count]. Example *might* pass the "Good Taste Police" but I doubt it !! LOL OK ???? Ed From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 04:23:39 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:23:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? Message-ID: List what are your thoughts on this Bugeye? I like the suspension not the engine. *http://tinyurl.com/4gnc56z Ebay *190507721317 Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 04:28:42 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:28:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm liking this ; ) "So when I see a NY cop or hear of any cop wanting any kind of money, I think of this and let em know just how I feel about cops." On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > On 3/1/2011 4:25 PM, brian S wrote: > >> WOW, >> >> wish parking tickets were that cheap here in NY. >> >> Got a BS "Not parked in a marked stall" ticket. >> $110!! >> > > My daughter broke an axle on her VW Jetta in NY city, it was in front of a > gas station but the wheel was locked into the fender and the car could not > even be pushed. A wrecker was called but meanwhile New York's finest told > her to move the car or get a parking ticket. She said a wrecker was coming > and the idiot cops could see a busted axle and the wheel smashed into the > fender but they still could not figure out WHY the car could not move. > Those MFers MAILED her a parking ticket for $175. > So when I see a NY cop or hear of any cop wanting any kind of money, I > think of this and let em know just how I feel about cops. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Mar 2 05:22:53 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:22:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> On 3/2/2011 1:01 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > How about to start with "teaching" them NOT to break the > LAW(s) in the 1st place ?? > She did not break the law, she broke an AXLE! Car was wedged to a stop by it's wheel and fender. But justice is BLIND and so are NY cops! Deaf too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From compo.simmonite at ntlworld.com Wed Mar 2 05:27:30 2011 From: compo.simmonite at ntlworld.com (Paul Humphries) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:27:30 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop brackets Message-ID: Ibve bought a factory hardtop off eBay and although it has the brackets on the top I donbt have the ones that attach to the car (b72 Austin Sprite). Anyone tell me if they are the same as MGB items like these - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200388819780&ssPageName= STRK:MEWAX:IT Thanks. Paul H From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 2 06:12:09 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:12:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Grills and Made in USA In-Reply-To: <1968115973.1052672.1298039707808.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <591636.95384.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <1968115973.1052672.1298039707808.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Almost all Weber Gas Grills are still made in the US. There are a few others also. A pretty good web site for made in US products http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > I search all the time for "Made in U.S.A." stuff and it is getting extremely > difficult to find it.B And when it is found, it is usually the high-dollar > premium stuff.B Case in point:B A couple of years ago I was shopping for a > gas grill.B I was determined to purchase a gas grill made in the U.S.A.B > Well I could find such an animal, but they were in the $1500 - 3,000 price > range, far outside my $400 -600 budget for the grill.B So I ended up > purchasing a Kenmore from Sears, made where?B Yep, China.B I even called > grill manufacturers like Char Broil, only to find that they did, indeed, make > certain models in the U.S.A., but that these models were their high dollar > models.B The affordable grills from the same company were made in the orient. > > --David C. > THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people > B I never liked anyway, > B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > B The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Wed Mar 2 07:20:58 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Grills and Made in USA In-Reply-To: <1914952129.1731986.1299075535006.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <630719065.1732250.1299075658196.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Only the Weber Summit and Genesis gas grills are made in the USA.B Although the Genesis is a little less expensive, ranging in the $500 plus range, the Summit is in the $1300-1500 range.B But All of Weber's less expensive grills, the more affordable ones, are imported.B Weber was one of the companies I called to try to find an affordable gas grill made in the USA. --David C. THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people B I never liked anyway, B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and B The eyesight to tell the difference. ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian S" To: "spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2011 8:12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Grills and Made in USA Almost all Weber Gas Grills are still made in the US. There are a few others also. A pretty good web site for made in US products http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > I search all the time for "Made in U.S.A." stuff and it is getting extremely > difficult to find it.B B And when it is found, it is usually the high-dollar > premium stuff.B B Case in point:B B A couple of years ago I was shopping for a > gas grill.B B I was determined to purchase a gas grill made in the U.S.A.B > Well I could find such an animal, but they were in the $1500 - 3,000 price > range, far outside my $400 -600 budget for the grill.B B So I ended up > purchasing a Kenmore from Sears, made where?B B Yep, China.B B I even called > grill manufacturers like Char Broil, only to find that they did, indeed, make > certain models in the U.S.A., but that these models were their high dollar > models.B B The affordable grills from the same company were made in the orient. > > --David C. > THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people > B I never liked anyway, > B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > B The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From cooper6 at swbell.net Wed Mar 2 07:26:02 2011 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (MARTIN COOPER) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:26:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Grills and Made in USA In-Reply-To: References: <591636.95384.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <1968115973.1052672.1298039707808.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <006001cbd8e5$c385d730$4a918590$@swbell.net> Try the Holland Grill made in the USA -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brian S Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:12 AM To: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Grills and Made in USA Almost all Weber Gas Grills are still made in the US. There are a few others also. A pretty good web site for made in US products http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > I search all the time for "Made in U.S.A." stuff and it is getting extremely > difficult to find it.B And when it is found, it is usually the > high-dollar premium stuff.B Case in point:B A couple of years ago I > was shopping for a > gas grill.B I was determined to purchase a gas grill made in the > U.S.A.B Well I could find such an animal, but they were in the $1500 - > 3,000 price range, far outside my $400 -600 budget for the grill.B So > I ended up purchasing a Kenmore from Sears, made where?B Yep, China.B > I even called grill manufacturers like Char Broil, only to find that > they did, indeed, make > certain models in the U.S.A., but that these models were their high > dollar models.B The affordable grills from the same company were made > in the orient. > > --David C. > THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people B I > never liked anyway, B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > B The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cooper6 at swbell.net ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17020) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17020) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 08:30:17 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:30:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It looks to be worth the opening bid. From bkitterer at me.com Wed Mar 2 08:47:38 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:47:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop brackets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4269C04F-E208-4CA4-8541-D98A68A8C38C@me.com> Paul, Those are not the ones for bugeyes and early Spridgets. Bob Kitterer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:27 AM, Paul Humphries wrote: > Ibve bought a factory hardtop off eBay and although it has the brackets on > the top I donbt have the ones that attach to the car (b72 Austin Sprite). > Anyone tell me if they are the same as MGB items like these - > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200388819780&ssPageName= > STRK:MEWAX:IT > > Thanks. > > Paul H > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 2 09:20:31 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <876059446.1651955.1299082831545.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Nice engineeering on the suspension. Probably goes like stink... even round corners! Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" List what are your thoughts on this Bugeye? I like the suspension not the engine. *http://tinyurl.com/4gnc56z From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 2 10:50:18 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:50:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Bugeye - Yokohama A048 tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Steve, After doing a little research, it appears that the A048s, have been discontinued. However, it does appear the thye have been replaced by the Proxes R888. Looks like the same tread pattern. May be special order, I saw anywhere from $145-205 a tire. HTH Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:06:26 -0500 > From: an5.sprite at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Bugeye - Yokohama A048 tires > > List, > > I purchased a set of used race warm up Yokohoma A048 185/60 - 13 tires for > my Bugeye. I wore out one from a bad front end alignment and am having > trouble finding a replacement. It is also almost spring and I will need to > get it replaced to pass inspection. If anyone knows of any for sale please > let me know. > > Thanks > > Steve > _______________________________________________ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 2 10:53:48 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:53:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since the 13's are getting scarce, Has anyone been able to find out if the Miata Rims will fit a Spridget? They are 4x100 and come in 14-15-16 and 17 inch sizes. 14x6 IIRC for the smallest ones. I know a couple people weregoing to try it, but I don't anyone reported back. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! From frogeye at cox.net Wed Mar 2 11:01:40 2011 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 13:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had thought about it at one point but the weather has placed a hold on that for a bit but hope to play with a couple -----Original Message----- From: brian S Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:53 PM To: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets Since the 13's are getting scarce, Has anyone been able to find out if the Miata Rims will fit a Spridget? They are 4x100 and come in 14-15-16 and 17 inch sizes. 14x6 IIRC for the smallest ones. I know a couple people weregoing to try it, but I don't anyone reported back. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frogeye at cox.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 11:41:50 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:41:50 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets Message-ID: There was a thread recently that went through this. If you are using a tapered lug not you can get them to fit. It is not exact, 100m vs 101.4. If you are using typical square shoulder lug nuts, something has to be re-drilled. Steve ------Original Message------ From: brian S Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets Sent: Mar 2, 2011 12:53 PM Since the 13's are getting scarce, Has anyone been able to find out if the Miata Rims will fit a Spridget? They are 4x100 and come in 14-15-16 and 17 inch sizes. 14x6 IIRC for the smallest ones. I know a couple people weregoing to try it, but I don't anyone reported back. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 12:03:15 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:03:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets In-Reply-To: <20110302185113.F04C9187984@autox.team.net> References: <20110302185113.F04C9187984@autox.team.net> Message-ID: My local LBC repair shop had a sprite using 14" minilites (or replicas.) I think they were originally sold to fit MGBs. Said they were a straight swap. Hal On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > There was a thread recently that went through this. If you are using a > tapered lug not you can get them to fit. It is not exact, 100m vs 101.4. If > you are using typical square shoulder lug nuts, something has to be > re-drilled. > > Steve > ------Original Message------ > From: brian S > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets > Sent: Mar 2, 2011 12:53 PM > > Since the 13's are getting scarce, > Has anyone been able to find out if the > Miata Rims will fit a Spridget? > They are 4x100 and come in 14-15-16 and 17 inch sizes. > 14x6 IIRC for the smallest ones. > I know a couple people weregoing to try it, but I don't > anyone reported back. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 12:18:31 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:18:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okay... Funny stuff but not really an answer for Jay.... There will be a schedule of events on the website very soon. I'm out of town or I would have put one together with the approval of the cheese heads by now... They are all still sobering up from the Super Bowl... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Kim Tonry wrote: > Ron Soave said: > > > > Is that a question or statement? I think it was Keith Moon. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From frogeye at cox.net Wed Mar 2 12:20:12 2011 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:20:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <20110302185113.F04C9187984@autox.team.net> Message-ID: can't be that ..the bolt patterns are way different as in 4" vs 4 1/2" both 4 lug tho won't go well at all -----Original Message----- From: Hal Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:03 PM To: an5.sprite at gmail.com Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net ; spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets My local LBC repair shop had a sprite using 14" minilites (or replicas.) I think they were originally sold to fit MGBs. Said they were a straight swap. Hal On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > There was a thread recently that went through this. If you are using a > tapered lug not you can get them to fit. It is not exact, 100m vs 101.4. > If > you are using typical square shoulder lug nuts, something has to be > re-drilled. > > Steve > ------Original Message------ > From: brian S > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets > Sent: Mar 2, 2011 12:53 PM > > Since the 13's are getting scarce, > Has anyone been able to find out if the > Miata Rims will fit a Spridget? > They are 4x100 and come in 14-15-16 and 17 inch sizes. > 14x6 IIRC for the smallest ones. > I know a couple people weregoing to try it, but I don't > anyone reported back. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frogeye at cox.net From fastvee at yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 12:23:14 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:23:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <360116.33366.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Lin, I think the suspension is rather crude, and does not following good design practice. On the front suspension having an upper A-arm is a good idea, but even if the two mounting tabs are 1/4" they don't seem to provide much resistance to caster change during braking. The mounting tab for the front anti-sway bar is probably flexing considerably, which may be why it looks like it is bent while the suspension is in droop. There isn't enough detail shown to critique it further, but the tube shock mounting could be another problem area. The rear suspension looks like it was not designed to go around corners because the spring base is so narrow, and the shocks are mounted vertically as to provide little resistance to chassis roll. The spring rate and damping would be digressive and unresponsive to tuning adjustments. The upper shock mounts are pieces of angle iron without gussets which means lots of flexing. We can't tell what the geometry would be as you can't see the upper links. The springs would need to be stiffer than needed due to the shock mounting and still not provide a stable platform. About the only thing I like are the lower links. It is another way to provide longitudinal and lateral axle location with minimal weight and lowers the roll center, but may be a bad match for the rest of this suspension. A low roll center with a long moment arm above it and little resistance to roll because of the spring & shock location and I can imagine this car lifting a front wheel while cornering on the street. I think this car would be a handful. Just my two cents. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Wed, 3/2/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? To: "Spridget list" Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 6:23 AM List what are your thoughts on this Bugeye? I like the suspension not the engine. *http://tinyurl.com/4gnc56z Ebay *190507721317 Lin Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fastvee at yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 13:44:04 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:44:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <360116.33366.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <840166.16314.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Or as my friend Reid said when I showed him a picture, "you can almost hear the "Deliverance" banjo in the background." --- On Wed, 3/2/11, fastvee wrote: > From: fastvee > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? > To: "Spridget list" , "Linda Grunthaner" > Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 1:23 PM > Hi Lin, > I think the suspension is rather crude, and does not > following good design > practice. On the front suspension having an upper A-arm is > a good idea, but > even if the two mounting tabs are 1/4" they don't seem to > provide much > resistance to caster change during braking. The mounting > tab for the front > anti-sway bar is probably flexing considerably, which may > be why it looks like > it is bent while the suspension is in droop. There isn't > enough detail shown > to critique it further, but the tube shock mounting could > be another problem > area. The rear suspension looks like it was not designed to > go around corners > because the spring base is so narrow, and the shocks are > mounted vertically as > to provide little resistance to chassis roll. The spring > rate and damping > would be digressive and unresponsive to tuning adjustments. > The upper shock > mounts are pieces of angle iron without gussets which means > lots of flexing. > We can't tell what the geometry would be as you can't > see the upper links. The springs would need to be stiffer > than needed due to > the shock mounting and still not provide a stable platform. > About the only > thing I like are the lower links. It is another way to > provide longitudinal > and lateral axle location with minimal weight and lowers > the roll center, but > may be a bad match for the rest of this suspension. A low > roll center with a > long moment arm above it and little resistance to roll > because of the spring & > shock location and I can imagine this car lifting a front > wheel while > cornering on the street. I think this car would be a > handful. Just my two > cents. > John > Fogelsville, PA > > --- On Wed, 3/2/11, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? > To: "Spridget list" > Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 6:23 AM > > List what are your thoughts on this Bugeye? I like the > suspension not the > engine. > *http://tinyurl.com/4gnc56z > Ebay *190507721317 > Lin > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fastvee at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 15:07:50 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:07:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <20110302185113.F04C9187984@autox.team.net> Message-ID: For a short time there were some 5.5" wide minator wheels that were 14" and drilled for a stock spridget. They sold out of that run and none others are available at the moment. I have 14x6" superlite wheels on my sprite, but the offset doesn't work well. -T On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > My local LBC repair shop had a sprite using 14" minilites (or replicas.) I > think they were originally sold to fit MGBs. Said they were a straight > swap. > Hal > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > >> There was a thread recently that went through this. If you are using a >> tapered lug not you can get them to fit. It is not exact, 100m vs 101.4. If >> you are using typical square shoulder lug nuts, something has to be >> re-drilled. >> >> Steve >> ------Original Message------ >> From: brian S >> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> To: spridgets >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires for Spridgets >> Sent: Mar 2, 2011 12:53 PM >> >> Since the 13's are getting scarce, >> Has anyone been able to find out if the >> Miata Rims will fit a Spridget? >> They are 4x100 and come in 14-15-16 and 17 inch sizes. >> 14x6 IIRC for the smallest ones. >> I know a couple people weregoing to try it, but I don't >> anyone reported back. >> >> Brian S. >> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From fastvee at yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 17:33:16 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:33:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <840166.16314.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <532705.92138.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's funny. I think the owner had drag racing in mind and didn't really understand what he was giving up. John Fogelsville, PA - Or as my friend Reid said when I showed him a picture, "you can almost hear the "Deliverance" banjo in the background." From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 17:38:49 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:38:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Grills and Made in USA In-Reply-To: References: <591636.95384.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <1968115973.1052672.1298039707808.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <895101.9449.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I'm attending the Hearth, Patio & Barbecue Expo convention in Salt Lake City this week. Will try to quiz the manufacturers to determine a true USA grill. Skip J ----- Original Message ---- From: brian S To: spridgets list Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Grills and Made in USA Almost all Weber Gas Grills are still made in the US. There are a few others also. A pretty good web site for made in US products http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > I search all the time for "Made in U.S.A." stuff and it is getting extremely > difficult to find it.B And when it is found, it is usually the high-dollar > premium stuff.B Case in point:B A couple of years ago I was shopping for a > gas grill.B I was determined to purchase a gas grill made in the U.S.A.B > Well I could find such an animal, but they were in the $1500 - 3,000 price > range, far outside my $400 -600 budget for the grill.B So I ended up > purchasing a Kenmore from Sears, made where?B Yep, China.B I even called > grill manufacturers like Char Broil, only to find that they did, indeed, make > certain models in the U.S.A., but that these models were their high dollar > models.B The affordable grills from the same company were made in the orient. > > --David C. > THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people > B I never liked anyway, > B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and > B The eyesight to tell the difference. > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15 at hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jackson.skip at yahoo.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 2 19:01:34 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:01:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is this the cars floating? ( skip to 1:40, if you wish. ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bEu9wLDjKY > From: kgrowler at gmail.com > > Ron Soave said: > > > > Is that a question or statement? I think it was Keith Moon. > _______________________________________________ From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Mar 2 19:14:49 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:14:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC><4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net><4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> It's not that Justice is blind, or about any laws being broken. It's just all about the money. They have the means to extract $175 from you and they will do so. My experience is they are more likely to do so when the economy sucks and their budgets are tight. Think of it as a "toll fee" for breaking an axle in a public area. It's easier than raising taxes. -----Original Message----- > How about to start with "teaching" them NOT to break the > LAW(s) in the 1st place ?? > She did not break the law, she broke an AXLE! Car was wedged to a stop by it's wheel and fender. But justice is BLIND and so are NY cops! Deaf too. Frank Clarici From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed Mar 2 19:50:00 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:50:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC><4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net><4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> Message-ID: <4D6F01D8.8060101@tx.rr.com> It's easier than being a responsible politician. > Think of it as a "toll fee" for breaking an axle in a public area. > It's easier than raising taxes. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 19:50:08 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:50:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pistons and rods FS Message-ID: <250156.96265.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Before I post to ebay on Friday evening, I have a set of brand new AE 21251 pistons on Cooper S rods with brand new AE AEB 572 tri-metal bearings assembled and ready for installation for sale. Pistons are standard size bore. The AEG 521 rods are, per Vizard's book" "As far as strength is concerned, the Cooper "S" rod is the best A-Series rod available." The setup is gorgeous, shown here: http://tinyurl.com/1275rods-N-pistons or http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/1275%20Pistons%20Cooper%20S%20rods%20trim-metal%20Bearings/ Rod bolts included, but nuts are not (I don't like the ones that were on there; get some ARP ones please!) These were installed in a motor I bought but never saw a single crank revolution. The motor was sold to a list member almost upon purchase, but when I opened it up and inspected it prior to shipping it, there were other issues and I would not sell it as it was. I added the bearings. I am keeping some of it and ebaying the rest. Price on asking (very fair but not cheap; this is a beautiful setup). Ron From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 2 21:17:21 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:17:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <4D6F01D8.8060101@tx.rr.com> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC><4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net><4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> <4D6F01D8.8060101@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4D6F1651.4070002@justbrits.com> << It's easier than being a responsible politician. >> Oxymoron, if I EVER "heard" one !!! From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 03:11:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:11:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> Message-ID: I so agree Dean. Lin On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > It's not that Justice is blind, or about any laws being broken. > It's just all about the money. > > They have the means to extract $175 from you and they will do so. > My experience is they are more likely to do so when the economy > sucks and their budgets are tight. > > Think of it as a "toll fee" for breaking an axle in a public area. > It's easier than raising taxes. > > > -----Original Message----- > > How about to start with "teaching" them NOT to break the > > LAW(s) in the 1st place ?? > > > > She did not break the law, she broke an AXLE! > Car was wedged to a stop by it's wheel and fender. > But justice is BLIND and so are NY cops! Deaf too. > > Frank Clarici > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 03:43:21 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:43:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <360116.33366.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <360116.33366.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks John, so if I were to beef up my suspension I would only need a rear sway bar right? I forgot what the name is but I have seen them. Lin On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM, fastvee wrote: > Hi Lin, > I think the suspension is rather crude, and does not following good design > practice. On the front suspension having an upper A-arm is a good idea, but > even if the two mounting tabs are 1/4" they don't seem to provide much > resistance to caster change during braking. The mounting tab for the front > anti-sway bar is probably flexing considerably, which may be why it looks > like it is bent while the suspension is in droop. There isn't enough detail > shown to critique it further, but the tube shock mounting could be another > problem area. The rear suspension looks like it was not designed to go > around corners because the spring base is so narrow, and the shocks are > mounted vertically as to provide little resistance to chassis roll. The > spring rate and damping would be digressive and unresponsive to tuning > adjustments. The upper shock mounts are pieces of angle iron without gussets > which means lots of flexing. We can't tell what the geometry would be as you > can't see the upper links. The springs would need to be stiffer than needed > due to the shock mounting and still not provide a stable platform. About the > only thing I like are the lower links. It is another way to provide > longitudinal and lateral axle location with minimal weight and lowers the > roll center, but may be a bad match for the rest of this suspension. A low > roll center with a long moment arm above it and little resistance to roll > because of the spring & shock location and I can imagine this car lifting a > front wheel while cornering on the street. I think this car would be a > handful. Just my two cents. > John > Fogelsville, PA > > > --- On *Wed, 3/2/11, Linda Grunthaner * wrote: > > > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: [Spridgets] Any thoughts on this eBay Bugeye? > To: "Spridget list" > Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 6:23 AM > > List what are your thoughts on this Bugeye? I like the suspension not the > engine. > *http://tinyurl.com/4gnc56z > Ebay *190507721317 > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fastvee at yahoo.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 06:49:53 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:49:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, Message-ID: > > It's easier than raising taxes. Really? Think about what happens to a dollar that you earn. If you're an employee, there is a tax deduction at source.If you save what's left and earn interest, the interest is taxed.If you spend the money, you pay sales tax.If you save enough of those after tax dollars, you can buy a house. If you really go on the hook to get into a better neighbourhood, then you get taxed more. Do you get more service? No, you just get to pay more, because they think that you can. ( Income and property taxes seem communist in structure. ) Then there's sin taxes on gas, tobacco and booze. ( First they drive you drink with taxes, then tax you heavily on the drink. ) You paid taxes to build streets ( and parking ) and then pay to use the parking that you paid to make available. Then the person that you spend the remnants of that dollar to, gets to go through the same process; and then the next; and then the next, etc. When you die there is an estate tax which retaxes the income that you managed to save. You've already paid taxes on it, but you can't give it away. I think it's quite easy to raise taxes. Don't they do it every year where you are? I wish I could do that. "Hey boss, I want to spend more than I'm making now, so you're going to pay me 3% more this year. You can vote me out in 4 years, but really, the next guy is just going to do the same thing!" Here's an example of municipal spending in Ottawa. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/03/02/ottawa-westboro-land.ht ml But, in a nutshell:The city sold some greenspace to a developer for 12.5 million.Rezoned the land for them.Now have voted to buy back 1/4 of that land for 11.5 million, 2 years later.It is worth more now, because it is rezoned. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 07:21:18 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:21:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, Message-ID: ..and then there is the employer... A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA deductions on themselves (An employee pays half and the employer pays half usually) and then they have to buy office furniture. so.. If I buy the furniture then I am paying a sales tax. Then at the end of the year I pay the City tax BECAUSE I OWN THE FURNITURE.... and I pay the Parish tax BECAUSE I OWN THE FURNITURE. I then repeatedly pay the city and parish tax because I own furniture that I already had to pay sales tax on. In New Orleans, they tax you for owning a car, every year! Lester On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: >>> It's easier than raising taxes. > > Really? Think about what happens to a dollar that you earn. > If you're an employee, there is a tax deduction at source.If you > save what's > left and earn interest, the interest is taxed.If you spend the > money, you pay > sales tax.If you save enough of those after tax dollars, you can buy > a house. > If you really go on the hook to get into a better neighbourhood, > then you get > taxed more. Do you get more service? No, you just get to pay more, > because > they think that you can. ( Income and property taxes seem communist > in > structure. ) > Then there's sin taxes on gas, tobacco and booze. ( First they > drive you > drink with taxes, then tax you heavily on the drink. ) > You paid taxes to build streets ( and parking ) and then pay to use > the > parking that you paid to make available. > Then the person that you spend the remnants of that dollar to, gets > to go > through the same process; and then the next; and then the next, etc. > When you die there is an estate tax which retaxes the income that > you managed > to save. You've already paid taxes on it, but you can't give it away. > I think it's quite easy to raise taxes. Don't they do it every year > where you > are? I wish I could do that. "Hey boss, I want to spend more than > I'm making > now, so you're going to pay me 3% more this year. You can vote me > out in 4 > years, but really, the next guy is just going to do the same thing!" > Here's an example of municipal spending in Ottawa. > http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/03/02/ottawa-westboro-land.ht > ml > But, in a nutshell:The city sold some greenspace to a developer for > 12.5 > million.Rezoned the land for them.Now have voted to buy back 1/4 of > that land > for 11.5 million, 2 years later.It is worth more now, because it is > rezoned. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From pchast at francomm.com Thu Mar 3 07:28:03 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:28:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> Message-ID: i have been reading all this and it makes me wonder how you would pay for what services you complain about? i don't like the current system either. Please show me a better one................ Pete On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:21:18 -0500, Lester wrote: > > ..and then there is the employer... > > A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA deductions on themselves > (An employee pays half and the employer pays half usually) and then they > have to buy office furniture. so.. > > If I buy the furniture then I am paying a sales tax. Then at the end of > the year I pay the City tax BECAUSE I OWN THE FURNITURE.... and I pay > the Parish tax BECAUSE I OWN THE FURNITURE. I then repeatedly pay the > city and parish tax because I own furniture that I already had to pay > sales tax on. In New Orleans, they tax you for owning a car, every year! > > Lester > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > >>>> It's easier than raising taxes. >> >> Really? Think about what happens to a dollar that you earn. >> If you're an employee, there is a tax deduction at source.If you save >> what's >> left and earn interest, the interest is taxed.If you spend the money, >> you pay >> sales tax.If you save enough of those after tax dollars, you can buy a >> house. >> If you really go on the hook to get into a better neighbourhood, then >> you get >> taxed more. Do you get more service? No, you just get to pay more, >> because >> they think that you can. ( Income and property taxes seem communist in >> structure. ) >> Then there's sin taxes on gas, tobacco and booze. ( First they drive >> you >> drink with taxes, then tax you heavily on the drink. ) >> You paid taxes to build streets ( and parking ) and then pay to use the >> parking that you paid to make available. >> Then the person that you spend the remnants of that dollar to, gets to >> go >> through the same process; and then the next; and then the next, etc. >> When you die there is an estate tax which retaxes the income that you >> managed >> to save. You've already paid taxes on it, but you can't give it away. >> I think it's quite easy to raise taxes. Don't they do it every year >> where you >> are? I wish I could do that. "Hey boss, I want to spend more than I'm >> making >> now, so you're going to pay me 3% more this year. You can vote me out >> in 4 >> years, but really, the next guy is just going to do the same thing!" >> Here's an example of municipal spending in Ottawa. >> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/03/02/ottawa-westboro-land.ht >> ml >> But, in a nutshell:The city sold some greenspace to a developer for 12.5 >> million.Rezoned the land for them.Now have voted to buy back 1/4 of >> that land >> for 11.5 million, 2 years later.It is worth more now, because it is >> rezoned. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 07:35:58 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , Message-ID: Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: pchast at francomm.com > > i have been reading all this and it makes me wonder how you would pay for > what services you complain about? > i don't like the current system either. Please show me a better > one................ > > Pete From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 07:38:25 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:38:25 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com><4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , Message-ID: When are you moving here? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:35:58 To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: pchast at francomm.com > > i have been reading all this and it makes me wonder how you would pay for > what services you complain about? > i don't like the current system either. Please show me a better > one................ > > Pete _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 07:49:35 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:49:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets Message-ID: :) I've been paying for about 35 years. I'm not sure how much sense it would make to walk away from it when I'm getting close to asking for some of it back. :) Things sure are cheaper there though. Check out the price on the same CD at amazon.com and amazon.ca for an example. ( Find it on one site and then just change the .com to .ca ) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: an5.sprite at gmail.com > When are you moving here? > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Duquette > > Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day > Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > > > From: pchast at francomm.com > > > > i have been reading all this and it makes me wonder how you would pay for > > what services you complain about? > > i don't like the current system either. Please show me a better > > one................ > > > > Pete From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 3 07:59:09 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:59:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> Message-ID: <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Wanna do a house swap? Won't even empty the garages! You'll be in Wisconsin, which is getting pretty damn scary. Peter C = At 08:35 AM 3/3/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: >Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day >Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) > >Robert Duquette > >Ottawa ON Canada From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 08:00:06 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 07:00:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, Message-ID: <444353.95526.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> "A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA..." A self-employed person also has the ability to use write-offs unavailable to your employees. Do you want to eliminate that also? jay fishbein wallingford, ct A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA deductions on themselves (An employee pays half and the employer pays half usually) and then they have to buy office furniture. so.. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 08:26:14 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:26:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com>, <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , , , <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce their own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. They were offering to do that weren't they? > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:59:09 -0600 > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net > From: peter at nosimport.com > > Wanna do a house swap? Won't even empty the garages! You'll be in > Wisconsin, which is getting pretty damn scary. > Peter C > = > At 08:35 AM 3/3/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: > >Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day > >Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) > > > >Robert Duquette > > > >Ottawa ON Canada From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 08:49:27 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:49:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com>, <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , , , <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of the people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him are strangely being made exempt from this. But it's not political. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:26 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce their own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. They were offering to do that weren't they? > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:59:09 -0600 > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net > From: peter at nosimport.com > > Wanna do a house swap? Won't even empty the garages! You'll be in > Wisconsin, which is getting pretty damn scary. > Peter C > = > At 08:35 AM 3/3/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: > >Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day > >Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) > > > >Robert Duquette > > > >Ottawa ON Canada Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 08:51:36 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:51:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <444353.95526.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, <444353.95526.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> Yup. Flat tax. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE pays the same. Lester On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Jay wrote: > "A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA..." > > A self-employed person also has the ability to use write-offs > unavailable to > your employees. Do you want to eliminate that also? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA deductions on themselves > (An > employee pays half and the employer pays half usually) and then they > have to buy > office furniture. so.. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 09:01:47 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:01:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC> <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net> <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net> <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60> <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> Message-ID: I'm catching on here. Guns bad. Politics OK. Republicans bad. Democrats good. It has only taken me about 15 years, though. Now I need to work on making complete sentences. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, > Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of the > people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take > away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are > only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse > the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him are > strangely being made exempt from this. > > But it's not political. From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 3 09:09:21 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> Message-ID: <553055869.1668344.1299168561111.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> 7% for everybody... from me on Social Security to Bill Gates on Easy Street!! I can live (and die) with that Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" Flat tax. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE pays the same. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 09:12:17 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:12:17 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com>, <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , , , <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> Message-ID: Oh, and by the way, I do not see any of the senators and governors that want to kill healthcare talking about removing the healthcare coverage they have. I have heard they have created one of the most complete health plans for themselves. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Larry Daniels" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:49:27 To: Robert Duquette; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of the people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him are strangely being made exempt from this. But it's not political. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:26 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce their own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. They were offering to do that weren't they? > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:59:09 -0600 > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net > From: peter at nosimport.com > > Wanna do a house swap? Won't even empty the garages! You'll be in > Wisconsin, which is getting pretty damn scary. > Peter C > = > At 08:35 AM 3/3/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: > >Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day > >Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) > > > >Robert Duquette > > > >Ottawa ON Canada Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Mar 3 09:12:46 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:12:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com>, <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , , , <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> Message-ID: <001101cbd9bd$d5913220$80b39660$@net> I don't mind if they have bargaining rights, but as a taxpayer I want a seat at the table. I don't have that now, do I? What I have is a politician bargaining with the same people that elected him/her and, as part of the 'bargaining' will use my taxpayer money to see to it that they get elected again. Jeez, what could possibly go wrong? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:49 AM To: Robert Duquette; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of the people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him are strangely being made exempt from this. But it's not political. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:26 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce their own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. They were offering to do that weren't they? > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:59:09 -0600 > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net > From: peter at nosimport.com > > Wanna do a house swap? Won't even empty the garages! You'll be in > Wisconsin, which is getting pretty damn scary. > Peter C > = > At 08:35 AM 3/3/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: > >Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day > >Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) > > > >Robert Duquette > > > >Ottawa ON Canada Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 09:12:49 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:12:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, <444353.95526.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> Message-ID: I second the motion. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:51:36 To: Spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets Yup. Flat tax. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE pays the same. Lester On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Jay wrote: > "A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA..." > > A self-employed person also has the ability to use write-offs > unavailable to > your employees. Do you want to eliminate that also? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA deductions on themselves > (An > employee pays half and the employer pays half usually) and then they > have to buy > office furniture. so.. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 09:13:49 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:13:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC><4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net><4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net><8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60><201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> Message-ID: Some of my best friends are republicans....... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: derf Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:01:47 To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets I'm catching on here. Guns bad. Politics OK. Republicans bad. Democrats good. It has only taken me about 15 years, though. Now I need to work on making complete sentences. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, > Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of the > people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take > away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are > only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse > the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him are > strangely being made exempt from this. > > But it's not political. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 09:14:20 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:14:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com>, <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , , , <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> , <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> Message-ID: I forgot to put my " ;) " after that last sentence of mine. :) I kinda figured they weren't offering to accept the same plan for themselves. > From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, > Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of the > people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take > away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are > only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse > the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him are > strangely being made exempt from this. > > But it's not political. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Duquette > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:26 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets > > I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce their > own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. > They were offering to do that weren't they? > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:59:09 -0600 > > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net > > From: peter at nosimport.com > > > > Wanna do a house swap? Won't even empty the garages! You'll be in > > Wisconsin, which is getting pretty damn scary. > > Peter C > > = > > At 08:35 AM 3/3/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: > > >Looks like USA residents pay about 15% less tax than Canadians. > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day > > >Well, ... maybe I don't want all of those services ... :) > > > > > >Robert Duquette > > > > > >Ottawa ON Canada > _______________________________________________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 09:17:01 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:17:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <1493735862-1299168772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1804453990-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, <444353.95526.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> <1493735862-1299168772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1804453990-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <25E638B7-5C2A-4D17-BA35-6FF1BDEB6E37@comcast.net> Motion has been made and seconded, I call for a roll call vote. Lester Aye. On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:12 AM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > I second the motion. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:51:36 > To: Spridgets net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets > > Yup. > > Flat tax. > > Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE pays the same. > > Lester > > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Jay wrote: > >> "A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA..." >> >> A self-employed person also has the ability to use write-offs >> unavailable to >> your employees. Do you want to eliminate that also? >> >> jay fishbein >> wallingford, ct >> A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA deductions on themselves >> (An >> employee pays half and the employer pays half usually) and then they >> have to buy >> office furniture. so.. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 09:20:00 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, , , , , , <201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, , <8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC>, Message-ID: Politics bad.Winter bad.Spring, summer, autumn good! > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:01:47 -0600 > From: derf247 at gmail.com > > I'm catching on here. Guns bad. Politics OK. Republicans bad. > Democrats good. > It has only taken me about 15 years, though. Now I need to work on > making complete sentences. > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Larry Daniels > wrote: > > No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, > > Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of > the > > people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take > > away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are > > only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse > > the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him are > > strangely being made exempt from this. > > > > But it's not political. > _______________________________________________ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 3 09:21:13 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:21:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <553055869.1668344.1299168561111.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03. dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> <553055869.1668344.1299168561111.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <201103030821224.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Even David Koch? lol -- At 10:09 AM 3/3/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: >7% for everybody... from me on Social Security to Bill Gates on Easy Street!! >I can live (and die) with that From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 09:21:53 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:21:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> My company voted yesterday to reduce my salary, by 100%. The other 3 people at my level also got their pay reduced by 100%. The people below us got their pay reduced by 10% to 30%. That is an indication that conditions are pretty bad. > I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce their > own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. > They were offering to do that weren't they? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 09:25:56 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:25:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20110303162556.ZI6EH.58257.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> I think the problem is- what are you taxing? If you are taxing income that is easy for me because I get a paycheck. But what about someone that owns companies and doesn't receive a paycheck? They have so many ways to get money that it is difficult to track them all. I remember reading the book by Lee Iacocca about when he was at Ford. Henry Ford would boast to him that he didn't pay any income taxes. Years ago I knew a man that owned his own company. His car was owned by the company, the artwork hanging on his walls at home, all of his food and travel was paid by the company. He did take money out of the company several different ways and probably got taxed on those, but his reported income was only a fraction of his true income. > Yup. > > Flat tax. > > Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE pays the same. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 09:26:52 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:26:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303162652.YN93S.58262.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> This is true in some states. I try to stay out of those states. > I'm catching on here. Guns bad. Politics OK. Republicans bad. > Democrats good. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 09:32:26 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:32:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC><4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net><4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com><4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net><8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60><201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> Message-ID: <2543C86E4C0845E7931EF393C6880631@HomePC> Good luck with that, Derf. -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:01 AM To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets I'm catching on here. Guns bad. Politics OK. Republicans bad. Democrats good. It has only taken me about 15 years, though. Now I need to work on making complete sentences. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > No. You are confusing that with the fact that the Republican Senators, > Governor and Assemblymen are willing to lay the debt belonging to all of > the > people of the state onto the backs of the public employees and then take > away their collective bargaining rights. Well, to clarify that, they are > only trying to take away union rights of those unions that DIDN'T endorse > the new Governor in the last election. The unions that DID endorse him > are > strangely being made exempt from this. > > But it's not political. From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 09:37:55 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:37:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303162533.05927187676@autox.team.net> References: <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC><4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net><4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net><8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60><201103030659396.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><8FACEA012AC540689215CAFC360550C1@HomePC> <20110303162533.05927187676@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <177251.11029.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You must be very wealthy.....If not, very naive. jay ________________________________ From: "an5.sprite at gmail.com" To: derf ; spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; Larry Daniels Cc: spridgets Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 11:13:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets Some of my best friends are republicans....... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 09:38:55 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:38:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> References: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> Message-ID: Sorry to hear about your job. (Don't know your name and "Hey, you" doesn't work well.) Good luck in getting a new one. Larry -----Original Message----- From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:21 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets My company voted yesterday to reduce my salary, by 100%. The other 3 people at my level also got their pay reduced by 100%. The people below us got their pay reduced by 10% to 30%. That is an indication that conditions are pretty bad. > I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce > their > own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. > They were offering to do that weren't they? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 09:42:40 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:42:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <553055869.1668344.1299168561111.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20110303164240.20U4F.58398.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> I've been really interested in what the number would be, but haven't every seen an analysis of what a person would truly have to pay as a percentage of their income. 7% won't even cover the FICA portion of taxes. If our (U.S.) population is 311 million, and our next proposed budget is about $3.5+ trillion, then that is $11,250 per person. My family of 3 has 2 workers and one student, so we would pay 11,250 x 3 = $33,750, which is about 30% of our combined incomes. This is probably at or just above what we currently pay. I think despite the publicity about "tax breaks for the rich" and so forth, they still pay the bulk of the taxes in the U.S. People earning $20k-30k per year would have to pay nearly HALF of their total income in taxes, and you can be sure they aren't doing it right now. I did some google searching and found a figure of $13.3 trillion for total U.S. income. Divide that into the national government budget and that is 26%, so it makes sense to me that a national tax would have to be 26%. The people on the bottom that pay 10-15% wouldn't like that a bit. > 7% for everybody... from me on Social Security to Bill Gates on Easy Street!! > I can live (and die) with that From george.brokaw at cox.net Thu Mar 3 09:47:06 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:47:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: References: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> Message-ID: <036901cbd9c2$a1ac0840$e50418c0$@brokaw@cox.net> No, he still has a job, he just doesn't get paid to do it! ;^) -----Original Message----- Sorry to hear about your job. (Don't know your name and "Hey, you" doesn't work well.) Good luck in getting a new one. Larry -----Original Message----- My company voted yesterday to reduce my salary, by 100%. The other 3 people at my level also got their pay reduced by 100%. The people below us got their pay reduced by 10% to 30%. That is an indication that conditions are pretty bad. > I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to reduce > their > own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. > They were offering to do that weren't they? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 09:47:34 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:47:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303164734.K0UXZ.58443.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> A new job is not an option right now. I'm still working, just won't receive a paycheck tomorrow. > Sorry to hear about your job. (Don't know your name and "Hey, you" doesn't > work well.) > > Good luck in getting a new one. > > >> My company voted yesterday to reduce my salary, by 100%. The other 3 people >> at my level also got their pay reduced by 100%. The people below us got >> their pay reduced by 10% to 30%. That is an indication that conditions are >> pretty bad. From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 3 09:52:50 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I think you made the mistake of dividing the necessary funds by the number of people without taking into account their individual wealth. e.g. assume Mr Bucket is only worth 1 billion dollars! 7% would be 70 million dollars in taxes! Wouldn't need many billionaires and millinaires to balance the budget! Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com If our (U.S.) population is 311 million, and our next proposed budget is about $3.5+ trillion, then that is $11,250 per person. My family of 3 has 2 workers and one student, so we would pay 11,250 x 3 = $33,750, which is about 30% of our combined incomes. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 09:55:41 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:55:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore Message-ID: Reading about these tickets and fines I got to share a quick story. I am 60 years old this coming June, so this was years ago when I was around 35 years old. My first trip to New York . . and I am driving a rental car. . a Ford Taurus with my wife, three young children and of course my mother is in the back seat along for the trip. I come off the bridge and drop into New York. I have driven enough in downtown San Francisco, but this place is different, much different. As soon as I come off the bridge I get out half way into an innersection and the light changes. I actually had two New York police officers yelling at me out of their windows, one to my right and one to my left . . yelling full bore at me for being an idiot. Crap, I don't know if I should back up or go forward or what kind of a ticket I am going to get? I couldn't back up due to the car behind me pulling up to the line, so I hit it and headed forward . . both cops left me alone. This was so many years ago. . but I can still see the cop to my right yelling at me. It took me a while to get the hang of driving around Manhattan. I got better at it at least. And when I tried to see the Dakota. . (where John Lennon was shot). . of course you cannot stop. . I had to drive by and get a look at it and circle around and drive by again if I wanted to catch another glimpse of the place. I came away with a new understanding as to why so many people use taxi cabs to get around. And some people might think San Francisco is a challenge with all the steep hills and trolley cars . . but all I recall is that Manhattan is a completely different place. And some of the cab drivers are nuts. I have had a few roller coaster rides in cabs while in Tijuana. . no rules and full on crazy driving. San Francisco cabs are fun too, as they at times get air jumping over the top of steep hills . . the front tires get a little lift that you can feel. In Manhattan I saw a cab car that had just crashed into a brick building. . it seemed to be a testament to the way some of them drive that city. Anyhow, I grew up along the coastal area of San Diego. . so of course this was a whole new world to me when I arrived. Kirk From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 09:57:22 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:57:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT -Jobs available again - was Re: Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> Message-ID: <343189.56552.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 3/3/11, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote: > My company voted yesterday to reduce > my salary, by 100%. The other 3 people at my level > also got their pay reduced by 100%. The people below > us got their pay reduced by 10% to 30%. That is an > indication that conditions are pretty bad I just got a request for quote today, we will win with the right people. I need 21 people FAST. If you can tolerate working in Rockford, IL and are one of the following, please let me know (this applies to all ;-)). Mechanical Engineers - BS degree in engineering and minimum of 1 year experience up to more than 8 years experience System Mechanical Engineers - BS degree in engineering and at least 4 years experience System Electrical Engineers - BS degree in engineering and at least 4 years experience Mechanical Designers/Drafters - At least 1 year MCAD drafting experience; general machining, fabrication, and manufacturing knowledge required Engineering Project Coordinator - Prior project management experience. Technical degree preferred Material Planner - Buying, material planning, production planning experience required. 4 year degree in relevant field. APICS certification a plus. Sorry for the Off-topic, but it seemed relevant. Respond off list. Thanks - Ron From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 3 10:03:17 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:03:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -Jobs available again - was Re: Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <343189.56552.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <343189.56552.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201103030903675.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 10:57 AM 3/3/2011, Ron Soave wrote: >I just got a request for quote today, we will win with the right >people. I need 21 people FAST. If you can tolerate working in Rockford, IL Some of the best senators are living in Rockford... only 14, though, and I'm not sure they could actually work or plan anything, but I do like their stamina and politics.... stirstirstir From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 10:07:07 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:07:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303164240.20U4F.58398.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> References: <553055869.1668344.1299168561111.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <20110303164240.20U4F.58398.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> Message-ID: I could be wrong ( yet again ), but I would bet that it is the middle class that pays the bulk of the taxes. > From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com > I think despite the publicity about "tax breaks for the rich" and so forth, they still pay the bulk of the taxes in the U.S. > > > 7% for everybody... from me on Social Security to Bill Gates on Easy Street!! > > I can live (and die) with that > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robertduquette at sympatico.ca From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 10:07:54 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:07:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> References: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> Message-ID: <47B72C91-60E3-4A5A-93BB-880F8F2BC3BB@comcast.net> I disagree, that is an indication that bean counters don't take experience into account. Here, all of the experienced teachers are leaving and the treatment of teachers is so bad that new ones usually don't stay more than a few years or so. In Shreveport Louisiana the School Board hired a group of Philippine teachers that had NO State certification solely based on how much it would cost to pay them.. idiots. Lester On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:21 AM, wrote: > My company voted yesterday to reduce my salary, by 100%. The other > 3 people at my level also got their pay reduced by 100%. The people > below us got their pay reduced by 10% to 30%. That is an indication > that conditions are pretty bad. > > >> I don't know all the details, but when senators are willing to >> reduce their >> own pay and pensions, etc., you know the conditions are pretty bad. >> They were offering to do that weren't they? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 10:08:21 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:08:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> > As soon as I come off the bridge I get out half way into an innersection and > the light changes. I actually had two New York police officers yelling at > me out of their windows, one to my right and one to my left . . yelling full > bore at me for being an idiot. Crap, I don't know if I should back up or go > forward or what kind of a ticket I am going to get? I couldn't back up due > to the car behind me pulling up to the line, so I hit it and headed forward > . . both cops left me alone. The same thing happened to me almost. I decided to drive through NY on a business trip one time, and I hit Manhattan at the evening rush hour. I discovered that drivers expect you to continue though a light unless you are clearly some distance from the light when it turns red. And if you block the crosswalks partially, the pedestrians really give you dirty looks. Traffic was heavy but moved from light to light, but people would stop right in front of you to double park and you had to be aggressive to get into the next lane because the people there wouldn't let you in if you asked. I quickly found myself driving just like they were, and I managed to make it out with me and the rent car unscathed. I've visited Mexico City on business and that is a different world. You can be in heavy traffic on a 3 lane street, but when you get to a traffic light it turns into 6 or 7 lanes. Then when the light changes the first ones across the intersection get to claim the 3 lanes. I remember very few instances where it was possible for the cab driver to choose his own speed, almost all of the time he was limited by the cars in front of him. The open road was nonexistent. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 10:12:38 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:12:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303171238.75ZQT.58629.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> It is way beyond my patience today to figure it out, but I did quick google searches for "u.s. income tax" and for "total u.s. income" before that earlier message and found some web pages with lots and lots of statistics and charts. Anyone with a real interest could find those articles and study them. They have a lot of statistics by household income, by race, etc. If someone here figures it out I would like to know. (I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, and what I posted earlier was strictly my opinion.) > I could be wrong ( yet again ), but I would bet that it is the middle class > that pays the bulk of the taxes. > > > > I think despite the publicity about "tax breaks for the rich" and so forth, > they still pay the bulk of the taxes in the U.S. From gmajewski at wi.rr.com Thu Mar 3 10:12:46 2011 From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:12:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Elected officials Message-ID: <6ABA1753-8A28-496B-A9D3-EA94DE2E7199@wi.rr.com> Group! I want to pose a question about our elected officials. They all most likely get campaign donations from people, businesses and other groups. It is interesting to see how they vote on bills related to the groups that gave donations. Could this be conceived as selling their vote? Just an idea! From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 10:14:36 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:14:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Elected officials In-Reply-To: <6ABA1753-8A28-496B-A9D3-EA94DE2E7199@wi.rr.com> References: <6ABA1753-8A28-496B-A9D3-EA94DE2E7199@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: You are just finding this out? Or, you being sarcastic? From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 10:17:58 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:17:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303171238.75ZQT.58629.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> References: <20110303171238.75ZQT.58629.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> Message-ID: Tickets, fines, etc., should be levied in the interest of justice, not as a revenue base for government. More money equals more power and more power is what government officials want. Taxes should pay for law enforcement, not tickets. From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Mar 3 10:19:48 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:19:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] GM Futurliner... Message-ID: Too bad about the timing. The MG T Register's "Mid-west gathering" is being hosted by my local club this summer at the Gilmore in Hickory Corners, MI (www.gofcentral.com) and has the Kalamazoo Air Zoo as one of its driving tour destinations. On the other hand, that rig spends most of its time parked just down the road in Auburn, Indiana. JohnD Running the 2011 Rallye to Reno in a '53 MG TD! www.tinyurl.com/kidsCURE _____________ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:35:06 -0500 From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] GM Futurliner on exhibit free in Michigan To: Spridget list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cool too bad it ends in April: http://www.futurliner.org/index.html Lin From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 10:20:00 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Mr Bucket would move to the Bahamas instead of paying that amount of tax. Or he may move his business to a more tax friendly country, taking the jobs with him.. > I think you made the mistake of dividing the necessary funds by the number of people without taking into account their individual wealth. > > e.g. assume Mr Bucket is only worth 1 billion dollars! > 7% would be 70 million dollars in taxes! > > Wouldn't need many billionaires and millinaires to balance the budget! > > Dave G KK7SS From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 10:20:24 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:20:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <47B72C91-60E3-4A5A-93BB-880F8F2BC3BB@comcast.net> References: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <47B72C91-60E3-4A5A-93BB-880F8F2BC3BB@comcast.net> Message-ID: <32779.10989.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The problem with these street-level discussions is that we don't get the entire story. Broad statements such as saying everything one party does is good and everything the other party does is bad, or that every teacher who has years in service is a good teacher, are just not true. For example, this is my problem with trying to understand Wisconsin. It is difficult to get the full story. Most of the stories talk about how many people are protesting, the fact that legislators have left the state, taking away their parking spaces, or in the case of Fox News, using footage from a protest in California during a report on Wisconsin. I suggest argue about Moss Motors, Bugeye emblems, or whether concours is bogus because they just installed whatever they wanted at the factory anyway? jay fishbein wallingford, ct To: spridgets net Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:07:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets I disagree, that is an indication that bean counters don't take experience into account. Here, all of the experienced teachers are leaving and the treatment of teachers is so bad that new ones usually don't stay more than a few years or so. In Shreveport Louisiana the School Board hired a group of Philippine teachers that had NO State certification solely based on how much it would cost to pay them.. idiots. From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Mar 3 10:21:58 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:21:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <47B72C91-60E3-4A5A-93BB-880F8F2BC3BB@comcast.net> References: <20110303162153.K12JQ.58232.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <47B72C91-60E3-4A5A-93BB-880F8F2BC3BB@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1DA31FB108194F119D508BA825AF9927@Home> > School Board hired a group of Philippine teachers that had NO State > certification solely based on how much it would cost to pay them.. >From what I know about the Philippines, they are probably better educated than the lower end of Louisiana graduates. Certification does not create competance. Michael Rowe From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 10:23:23 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:23:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets Message-ID: That is a perception that seems to circulate without the media trying to correct. The top 1% pay 40% of federal taxes The top 10% pay 71% of taxes While the bottom 50% pay a whopping 3% The group often defined as upper middle - 50-90% based on income pay 26%. Sorry to burst your bubble. ------Original Message------ From: Robert Duquette Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets Sent: Mar 3, 2011 12:07 PM I could be wrong ( yet again ), but I would bet that it is the middle class that pays the bulk of the taxes. > From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com > I think despite the publicity about "tax breaks for the rich" and so forth, they still pay the bulk of the taxes in the U.S. > > > 7% for everybody... from me on Social Security to Bill Gates on Easy Street!! > > I can live (and die) with that > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robertduquette at sympatico.ca _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 10:24:55 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:24:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Elected officials In-Reply-To: <6ABA1753-8A28-496B-A9D3-EA94DE2E7199@wi.rr.com> References: <6ABA1753-8A28-496B-A9D3-EA94DE2E7199@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <930669.27026.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> They sell their votes through campaign donations, gifts, services, and perks. In addtiion, they insure their futures by taking or having the option to entire private business with lucrative jobs. This applies to many staff members as well. Lobbyists should be eliminated or their lobbying actions severely limited. jay ________________________________ From: gary majewski To: spridgets spridgets Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:12:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Elected officials Group! I want to pose a question about our elected officials. They all most likely get campaign donations from people, businesses and other groups. It is interesting to see how they vote on bills related to the groups that gave donations. Could this be conceived as selling their vote? Just an idea! From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 10:26:47 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:26:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Elected officials Message-ID: You beat me to it. I was going to ask the same question. ------Original Message------ From: derf Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: gary majewski Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elected officials Sent: Mar 3, 2011 12:14 PM You are just finding this out? Or, you being sarcastic? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 10:29:16 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:29:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303172525.CB57218786B@autox.team.net> References: <20110303172525.CB57218786B@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <749354.30145.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I just don't have compassion for someone working for a public corporation, with a 6-figure salary who receives a 7 figure or 8 figure bonus. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: "an5.sprite at gmail.com" To: Robert Duquette ; spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:23:23 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets That is a perception that seems to circulate without the media trying to correct. The top 1% pay 40% of federal taxes From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 10:34:48 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:34:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303173448.QWEF1.254219.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> As a driving enthusiast some people might be suspicious about my bias. However I don't understand why any resident wouldn't feel the same way that I do. I own a home, I own part of a business, I have a wife and a daughter. I worry about my home being broken into, I worry about my wife and my daughter being attacked when out in public, I even worry a little about someone assaulting me when out in public. I do not worry a bit about anything happening to me when I'm in traffic. I see zero benefit to me from enforcing any speed limits. I can see that there might be some benefit from removing vehicles from the road that are driving too slowly such as large trucks and construction equipment, and anyone can see benefit from removing drinking drivers from the roads. I see the most benefit to me by utilizing police resources to protect my home and my family from attack. As far as I'm concerned, utilizing the police resources that I pay taxes for in traffic enforcement actually reduces the safety of my family and my home, and I don't like that. > Taxes should pay for law enforcement, not tickets. From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Mar 3 10:36:25 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:36:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> Message-ID: <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> When we first entered NYC, we came through a tunnel in Uhaul truck and car. We got separated, somehow, and my wife got out of her car to flag me down when I finally came through. So there she was, late Summer somewhere near 42nd street, in short-shorts, a tank top, no bra, with hair so long she had to be careful about sitting on it (left over from a stint with Don Ho's band in Waikiki). Just think about that one a bit. :-) Michael Rowe From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 10:42:04 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:42:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> Message-ID: <93A4233289A7474D871CAD8EAE26DE46@HomePC> Michael, I don't suppose you have any pictures? ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore When we first entered NYC, we came through a tunnel in Uhaul truck and car. We got separated, somehow, and my wife got out of her car to flag me down when I finally came through. So there she was, late Summer somewhere near 42nd street, in short-shorts, a tank top, no bra, with hair so long she had to be careful about sitting on it (left over from a stint with Don Ho's band in Waikiki). Just think about that one a bit. :-) Michael Rowe Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 10:48:54 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:48:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303173448.QWEF1.254219.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> References: <20110303173448.QWEF1.254219.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> Message-ID: <707863.97840.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> WHERE DO YOU LIVE?! (What am I asking, you won't even reveal your name.) janonymous wallingford, ct (maybe) ________________________________ From: "bjshov8 at tx.rr.com" To: Spridgets Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:34:48 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets As a driving enthusiast some people might be suspicious about my bias. However I don't understand why any resident wouldn't feel the same way that I do. I own a home, I own part of a business, I have a wife and a daughter. I worry about my home being broken into, I worry about my wife and my daughter being attacked when out in public, I even worry a little about someone assaulting me when out in public. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 10:49:26 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:49:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303173448.QWEF1.254219.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> References: <20110303173448.QWEF1.254219.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> Message-ID: OK, if the police don't enforce traffic laws, anybody and everybody can drive as fast as they want. They don't need to stop at stop signs or red lights. So the idiot driving 90 mph through a red light t-bones the car with your wife and daughter in it. Stopping that guy would have reduced the safety of your family -- is that what you're saying? -----Original Message----- From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:34 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets As a driving enthusiast some people might be suspicious about my bias. However I don't understand why any resident wouldn't feel the same way that I do. I own a home, I own part of a business, I have a wife and a daughter. I worry about my home being broken into, I worry about my wife and my daughter being attacked when out in public, I even worry a little about someone assaulting me when out in public. I do not worry a bit about anything happening to me when I'm in traffic. I see zero benefit to me from enforcing any speed limits. I can see that there might be some benefit from removing vehicles from the road that are driving too slowly such as large trucks and construction equipment, and anyone can see benefit from removing drinking drivers from the roads. I see the most benefit to me by utilizing police resources to protect my home and my family from attack. As far as I'm concerned, utilizing the police resources that I pay taxes for in traffic enforcement actually reduces the safety of my family and my home, and I don't like that. > Taxes should pay for law enforcement, not tickets. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 10:50:13 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:50:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> Message-ID: <518727.97056.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> That was YOUR wife? PS Say hi to her for me. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe To: Spridgets Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:36:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore When we first entered NYC, we came through a tunnel in Uhaul truck and car. We got separated, somehow, and my wife got out of her car to flag me down when I finally came through. So there she was, late Summer somewhere near 42nd street, in short-shorts, a tank top, no bra, with hair so long she had to be careful about sitting on it (left over from a stint with Don Ho's band in Waikiki). Just think about that one a bit. :-) From lists at dinospider.com Thu Mar 3 10:51:05 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:51:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <93A4233289A7474D871CAD8EAE26DE46@HomePC> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> <93A4233289A7474D871CAD8EAE26DE46@HomePC> Message-ID: <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> lol...why it is I bet the majority on this list thought exactly the same thing ? On 03/03/2011 09:42 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Michael, I don't suppose you have any pictures? ;-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Rowe > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full > Bore > > When we first entered NYC, we came through a tunnel in Uhaul truck and car. > We got separated, somehow, and my wife got out of her car to flag me down > when I finally came through. So there she was, late Summer somewhere near > 42nd street, in short-shorts, a tank top, no bra, with hair so long she had > to be careful about sitting on it (left over from a stint with Don Ho's band > in Waikiki). > > Just think about that one a bit. :-) > > Michael Rowe > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 11:05:47 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:05:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> <93A4233289A7474D871CAD8EAE26DE46@HomePC> <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <637738.87521.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Because it is no accident we all found our way to this list... We seem to have very similar taste and thoughts on a wide array of the important subjects. (I'm not counting politics in the list of important topics) ________________________________ From: Mike Rambour To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:51:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore lol...why it is I bet the majority on this list thought exactly the same thing ? On 03/03/2011 09:42 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Michael, I don't suppose you have any pictures? ;-) From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 11:07:17 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:07:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <707863.97840.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110303180717.4E3NH.252396.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> I thought everybody already knew that I lived in Dallas. > WHERE DO YOU LIVE?! > > (What am I asking, you won't even reveal your name.) > > janonymous > wallingford, ct (maybe) From shop at justbrits.com Thu Mar 3 11:08:35 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:08:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> <93A4233289A7474D871CAD8EAE26DE46@HomePC> <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <4D6FD923.8020408@justbrits.com> << why it is I bet the majority on this list thought exactly the same thing ? >> You giving odds, Mike ????? LMAO !!! From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 11:10:28 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:10:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303181028.3P7EE.252439.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> They don't seem to worry about traffic lights and stop signs. Frequently I see people run the stop sign by my house at full speed, no enforcement in sight. No enforcement in sight because the police are out on the freeway that typically doesn't run much more than the posted speed limit anyway. I think if there was no enforcement that some people would drive a little faster, but I don't see that in any of the streets around here even in areas that typically have little enforcement. The biggest traffic problems we have here are caused by DWI and by people that try to drive onto the freeway by going UP the exit ramps. > OK, if the police don't enforce traffic laws, anybody and everybody can > drive as fast as they want. They don't need to stop at stop signs or red > lights. So the idiot driving 90 mph through a red light t-bones the car > with your wife and daughter in it. > > Stopping that guy would have reduced the safety of your family -- is that > what you're saying? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 11:11:53 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:11:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <20110303181153.TRNKZ.252450.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> I was going to assume that his wife is a great person and suggest that he not put the words "wife" and "Ho" in the same email. :) > lol...why it is I bet the majority on this list thought exactly the > same thing ? > > > Michael, I don't suppose you have any pictures? ;-) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 11:20:51 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:20:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <518727.97056.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> <518727.97056.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <495E1451-D3C2-4153-BD46-C55D5A1EDA5C@comcast.net> .. was she the one with the squirt bottle and squeegee? Lester On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Jay wrote: > That was YOUR wife? > > PS Say hi to her for me. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Rowe > To: Spridgets > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:36:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me > Full Bore > > When we first entered NYC, we came through a tunnel in Uhaul truck > and car. We > got separated, somehow, and my wife got out of her car to flag me > down when I > finally came through. So there she was, late Summer somewhere near > 42nd street, > in short-shorts, a tank top, no bra, with hair so long she had to be > careful > about sitting on it (left over from a stint with Don Ho's band in > Waikiki). > > Just think about that one a bit. :-)/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Mar 3 11:22:46 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:22:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> <93A4233289A7474D871CAD8EAE26DE46@HomePC> <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> Message-ID: What am I offered for the picture? Check with Jay first. He remembers her well. Here's a preview: http://www.empireonline.com/100-greatest-movie-characters/default.asp?c=88 > lol...why it is I bet the majority on this list thought exactly the same > thing ? > > On 03/03/2011 09:42 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Michael, I don't suppose you have any pictures? ;-) >> think about that one a bit. :-) From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 11:32:42 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:32:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Worry or Concern About Public Safety - New Kimber Product Message-ID: I might have mentioned this before, but Kimber has a new product out. I bought three of them as gifts this last Christmas for my wife, daughter in law and my daughter. A new take on shooting pepper spray with a built in safety latch in front of the trigger. The pepper spray is propelled by a small charge and can shoot up to - as I recall - 13 feet. Each piece cost $50.0 and has two charges. The idea is that you can hit your assailant at a safer distance. . not when they are on top of you. It shoots the spray at 90 mph. . Pic in upper left hand corner. . the "gun" is in dark red: http://www.pepperspraycenter.com/buy-pepper-spray/pepper-blaster-kimber-pepper-spray-gun-guardian-angel-p-326?utm_campaign=kimberps&utm_term=kimber+pepper+spray&utm_content=6489724630&gclid=CISMtMGDs6cCFQEHbAod1lVD_A Kirk From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 11:34:03 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:34:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New York Police - Two of Them Yelling at Me Full Bore In-Reply-To: References: <20110303170822.R3KJN.58595.root@cdptpa-web26-z01> <395D17D3ED9849F2A3514EBE1BA5B6F0@Home> <93A4233289A7474D871CAD8EAE26DE46@HomePC> <4D6FD509.3080803@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Forget the picture.. "How much for your women?" Lester On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > What am I offered for the picture? Check with Jay first. He > remembers her well. Here's a preview: > > http://www.empireonline.com/100-greatest-movie-characters/default.asp?c=88 > >> lol...why it is I bet the majority on this list thought exactly the >> same thing ? >> >> On 03/03/2011 09:42 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: >>> Michael, I don't suppose you have any pictures? ;-) >>> > think about that one a bit. :-) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 11:34:36 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:34:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <20110303173448.QWEF1.254219.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> References: <20110303173448.QWEF1.254219.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, wrote: As far as I'm concerned, utilizing the police resources that I pay taxes for in traffic enforcement actually reduces the safety of my family and my home, and I don't like that. ----------------------------------------------------- During my working career, I worked as a police officer for townships, small municipalities, a university and retired after finishing out my time with the State of Ohio. The major part of law enforcement is DETERENCE. It is not often that a cop walks into a crime as it is being committed, let alone get there before it is over after being summoned to help! Those do happen but usually the cop ends up dealing with the aftermath of a crime... Traffic enforcement is a major part of deterence. I was going to do my Master's thesis on the effects of a strong traffic enforcement program comparing small communities' crime rates with the amount of traffic enforcement. My theory is that the bad guys know where they are more likely to get pulled over for a traffic or equipment infraction so they tend to aviod those areas. The small municipalities tend to have stronger traffic enforcement programs than larger communities. Most likely because they don't have as much serious crime and have the time to deal with traffic. Which, in terms of my theory, reduces serious crime and gives them even more time to do other things. When I worked the road, I tried to balance my time between answering calls, traffic and/or other enforcement, and routine patrol of the business and residential areas in my beat. Of those police departments with proactive traffic enforcement, some get reputations for being pricks because they ticket everyone for anything. Those departments are not well liked by police in general either!!! You can have strict enforcement without giving everyone a ticket. You also get more goodwill from the voters when you do your job without the "attitude".I could tell many stories about enforcing the law without having to ticket or arrest and actually getting my point across to the person that I was dealing with. Due to many outside influences, I did not finish the Master's program so I never did the study... I do remain convinced from an insider's perspective that traffic enforcement does actually keep you safer in your community and your home! Since I am retired now, I will never follow up on my theory as there is no need. On the other hand, I do carry a Federal CCW permit and firmly belive in being able to protect myself and others should the need arise. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 11:41:05 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:41:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <25E638B7-5C2A-4D17-BA35-6FF1BDEB6E37@comcast.net> References: , <46DB3B792F4E4F83B3D18AA550A9FE45@HomePC>, , <4D6D7166.5050001@comcast.net>, , <4D6DDD25.6040407@justbrits.com> <4D6E369D.1080905@comcast.net>, <8F14504D77344FCBA441BC38B81E24AE@t60>, <444353.95526.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><6FB554B1-18A7-47ED-BFB0-AA42CDD01A12@comcast.net> <1493735862-1299168772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1804453990-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <25E638B7-5C2A-4D17-BA35-6FF1BDEB6E37@comcast.net> Message-ID: <198583.26475.qm@web112702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I Bill W ________________________________ From: Lester Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 8:17:01 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets Motion has been made and seconded, I call for a roll call vote. Lester Aye. On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:12 AM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > I second the motion. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:51:36 > To: Spridgets net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes was Parking tickets > > Yup. > > Flat tax. > > Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE pays the same. > > Lester > > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Jay wrote: > >> "A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA..." >> >> A self-employed person also has the ability to use write-offs >> unavailable to >> your employees. Do you want to eliminate that also? >> >> jay fishbein >> wallingford, ct >> A self employed person pays DOUBLE for FICA deductions on themselves >> (An >> employee pays half and the employer pays half usually) and then they >> have to buy >> office furniture. so.. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 3 12:19:04 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:19:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03 .dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Here is an interesting take on this tax issue. David Clay Johnston is interviewed and makes some compelling arguments that lower corporate taxes cost jobs. http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/3/really_bad_reporting_in_wisconsin_media Peter ====== At 10:52 AM 3/3/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: >I think you made the mistake of dividing the necessary funds by the >number of people without taking into account their individual From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Mar 3 13:00:32 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 15:00:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Humor Message-ID: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. Michael Rowe From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 13:18:38 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:18:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Humor In-Reply-To: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> Message-ID: Some others of us have a sense of 'humour' ... ;) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#-our. 2C_-or Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > > I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 3 13:25:44 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:25:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Humor In-Reply-To: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> Message-ID: <167138.66600.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To hell with that. I'm happy that no one's been shot or killed. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe To: Spridgets Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 3:00:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Humor I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 13:37:07 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:37:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Humor In-Reply-To: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> Message-ID: Riiiggghhhttt... spring has come and gone. High's close to 80 degrees last week. Next you'll try to convince me that the Earth is round. Lester On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense > of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 3 13:39:39 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:39:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Humor In-Reply-To: References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> Message-ID: <201103031239785.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Snow tonight..... At 02:37 PM 3/3/2011, Lester wrote: >Riiiggghhhttt... spring has come and gone. High's close to 80 >degrees last week. Next you'll try to convince me that the Earth is >round. > >Lester > > >On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >>I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense >>of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. >> >>Michael Rowe From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 3 15:17:54 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:17:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Humour In-Reply-To: References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home>, Message-ID: It's a round somewhere!!! ;) > > Riiiggghhhttt... spring has come and gone. High's close to 80 > degrees last week. Next you'll try to convince me that the Earth is > round. > > Lester From grday at btinternet.com Thu Mar 3 16:17:01 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:17:01 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Humor References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> Message-ID: It ain't. It's an oblate spheroid. 0 - turned 90 degrees. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" To: "spridgets net" Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Humor > Riiiggghhhttt... spring has come and gone. High's close to 80 > degrees last week. Next you'll try to convince me that the Earth is > round. > > Lester > > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >> I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense >> of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. >> >> Michael Rowe >> _______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 16:24:40 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:24:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> And for all of you flat tax fans, chew on this: if everybody pays the same percentage of their income in taxes, that means that the people who make the most money pay less and the people who make the least pay more. So, unless you are a CEO of a large corporation or a hedge fund manager or anybody else making mega-bucks, your taxes are going up. The more you make and the more you can afford to pay, the less you will pay. The less you make and the less you can afford to pay more taxes, the more you will have to pay. Great idea. Did you really think this through? -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:19 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes Here is an interesting take on this tax issue. David Clay Johnston is interviewed and makes some compelling arguments that lower corporate taxes cost jobs. http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/3/really_bad_reporting_in_wisconsin_media Peter ====== At 10:52 AM 3/3/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: >I think you made the mistake of dividing the necessary funds by the >number of people without taking into account their individual Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 16:38:04 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:38:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: If I make $100,000 annually and you make $1,000,000 annually and we both pay 10% of our income in taxes, how are you paying less than me? I pay $10,000, you pay $100,000. $10,000 < $100,000. Please splain that to me. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > And for all of you flat tax fans, chew on this: if everybody pays the same > percentage of their income in taxes, that means that the people who make the > most money pay less and the people who make the least pay more. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 16:39:36 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:39:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: <20110303233936.2BHTQ.7196.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> I came to the same conclusion with my very crude analysis earlier. I've read this kind of thing before but never with numbers to back it up. I think I estimated that the flat tax would have to be 26%, and according to the IRS 2010 tax tables that corresponds to a taxable income of somewhere above $60k. (I'm assuming that the 26% includes FICA, the current tax computations are in addition to FICA.) And this has never been explained to all of the people on the lower end, the ones that the media whips into a frenzy with talk about "tax cuts for the wealthy". I never understood this because most people in the media are on the wrong side of this. And I would guess that "poor disadvantaged Obama" is in the upper percentile of rich politicians in Washington. When I hear how the poor think that 2 rich lawyers are going to help them, I start to feel ill. > And for all of you flat tax fans, chew on this: if everybody pays the same > percentage of their income in taxes, that means that the people who make the > most money pay less and the people who make the least pay more. So, unless > you are a CEO of a large corporation or a hedge fund manager or anybody else > making mega-bucks, your taxes are going up. The more you make and the more > you can afford to pay, the less you will pay. The less you make and the > less you can afford to pay more taxes, the more you will have to pay. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 16:42:11 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:42:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> He's saying that under a flat tax, someone with low income would pay more dollars than they pay with the current tax system, and someone with high income would pay less dollars than they pay with the current tax system. You'll never get to a point where a person with high income pays less dollars than a person with low income pays, even talking in terms of percentages the high income person pays a higher percentage than the lower income person. > If I make $100,000 annually and you make $1,000,000 annually and we > both pay 10% of our income in taxes, how are you paying less than me? > I pay $10,000, you pay $100,000. $10,000 < $100,000. > > Please splain that to me. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 16:44:43 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:44:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Humor In-Reply-To: <201103031239785.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home> <201103031239785.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: in the high 70's tomorrow.... On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Snow tonight..... > > > > At 02:37 PM 3/3/2011, Lester wrote: > >> Riiiggghhhttt... spring has come and gone. High's close to 80 >> degrees last week. Next you'll try to convince me that the Earth is >> round. >> >> Lester >> >> >> On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> >> I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense >>> of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. >>> >>> Michael Rowe >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Mar 3 16:49:09 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 15:49:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: <201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> This has to be the way you figure it out with that new math they are learning in school. I never did understand it, I still like the old way. Dave At 03:24 PM 3/3/2011, you wrote: >And for all of you flat tax fans, chew on this: if everybody pays the same >percentage of their income in taxes, that means that the people who make the >most money pay less and the people who make the least pay more. So, unless >you are a CEO of a large corporation or a hedge fund manager or anybody else >making mega-bucks, your taxes are going up. The more you make and the more >you can afford to pay, the less you will pay. The less you make and the >less you can afford to pay more taxes, the more you will have to pay. > >Great idea. > >Did you really think this through? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 16:54:28 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:54:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: <67348BB890B149429CB6EE9E25F84C13@HomePC> Sit down and think about this Ferd -- or whatever in the hell your name is. Really, it ain't that complicated. Much like making complete sentences. -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:38 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net ; Peter Caldwell Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes If I make $100,000 annually and you make $1,000,000 annually and we both pay 10% of our income in taxes, how are you paying less than me? I pay $10,000, you pay $100,000. $10,000 < $100,000. Please splain that to me. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > And for all of you flat tax fans, chew on this: if everybody pays the > same > percentage of their income in taxes, that means that the people who make > the > most money pay less and the people who make the least pay more. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 16:55:36 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:55:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> Message-ID: That's exactly right, BJ. Can I assume that is your initials, at least? -----Original Message----- From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:42 PM Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes He's saying that under a flat tax, someone with low income would pay more dollars than they pay with the current tax system, and someone with high income would pay less dollars than they pay with the current tax system. You'll never get to a point where a person with high income pays less dollars than a person with low income pays, even talking in terms of percentages the high income person pays a higher percentage than the lower income person. > If I make $100,000 annually and you make $1,000,000 annually and we > both pay 10% of our income in taxes, how are you paying less than me? > I pay $10,000, you pay $100,000. $10,000 < $100,000. > > Please splain that to me. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 17:01:08 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:01:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> Message-ID: But a flat tax will also mean that thousands of accountants and tax lawyers and irs auditors will no longer be needed. Come to think of it, that would be good. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Larry Daniels" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:55:36 To: Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes That's exactly right, BJ. Can I assume that is your initials, at least? -----Original Message----- From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:42 PM Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes He's saying that under a flat tax, someone with low income would pay more dollars than they pay with the current tax system, and someone with high income would pay less dollars than they pay with the current tax system. You'll never get to a point where a person with high income pays less dollars than a person with low income pays, even talking in terms of percentages the high income person pays a higher percentage than the lower income person. > If I make $100,000 annually and you make $1,000,000 annually and we > both pay 10% of our income in taxes, how are you paying less than me? > I pay $10,000, you pay $100,000. $10,000 < $100,000. > > Please splain that to me. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 17:09:10 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:09:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> <201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: Damn, why is this so hard to figure out? If high-earners percentage of tax burden goes down (which it will), they pay less. If low-earners percentage of tax burden goes up (which it will), they pay more. Wake up, people. This just isn't that big of a mystery. It really is simple math! Being in the financial industry, I tend to think this stuff is just plain common sense, but, really, this is some pretty simple stuff. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Yealy Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes This has to be the way you figure it out with that new math they are learning in school. I never did understand it, I still like the old way. Dave At 03:24 PM 3/3/2011, you wrote: >And for all of you flat tax fans, chew on this: if everybody pays the same >percentage of their income in taxes, that means that the people who make >the >most money pay less and the people who make the least pay more. So, unless >you are a CEO of a large corporation or a hedge fund manager or anybody >else >making mega-bucks, your taxes are going up. The more you make and the more >you can afford to pay, the less you will pay. The less you make and the >less you can afford to pay more taxes, the more you will have to pay. > >Great idea. > >Did you really think this through? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 17:22:10 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:22:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> Message-ID: Yes, but he is saying it poorly. He should have said a flat tax would be a higher percentage of a lower income than it would be of a higher income. I understand what a flat tax is. I think most who champion a flat tax realize that there would also have to be a drastic change in sales tax to compensate. Last time I checked the top 50% of incomes pay about 97% of the taxes and the lower 50% pay about 3%. I'd be for "tax the rich, feed the poor" if the able bodied poor would all strive to be contributing members of society. One of the problems with the liberals is they tend to support a percentage of the populous and those supported are allowed to vote for the ones who give them money. I don't like seeing people using government funds at the grocery store to buy Lobster and Steak, taking out cash to pay for cigarettes and alcohol (the govt. won't pay for them, at least), and then putting all their stuff in a vehicle that is much nicer than mine. Call me a hater. I know, I should shop at "better" places, right? Whole Foods and World Market are farther away, though, and I feel like the people at those places are oblivious to what is going on over at the Wal*Mart grocery store. I'm for drug testing welfare recipients, too. I don't want to support their habits. I don't think illegal aliens should get free stuff from the government. I'm not so much conservative republican but more anti-liberal. How's that for politics? From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 3 17:24:11 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <96151248.1676597.1299198251049.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Because, being in the financial business, if you remove all the tax loopholes and nefarious 'allowable' deductions, in other words, a true flat tax, the rich would have to start paying more. That's not hard to understand... When millionaires being interviewed in the media proudly explain how they can avoid paying income taxes, there is something wrong! When a Wall St. worker getting a 6 figure salary gets a 7 figure 'bonus', there is something wrong !! Just my Senior Citizens perspective. Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" Damn, why is this so hard to figure out? From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 3 17:27:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1715739923.1676609.1299198443592.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I'm not dis-agreeing... Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" gmail.com> How's that for politics? From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Mar 3 17:30:49 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:30:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Milage vs. Age In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: My daughter needs a new used car, and has posed the following question: "wondering if you have any advice about whether it is a better deal to get a newer year car, or one with less milage. For example, looking at the Yaris, we can get a 2007 with 15k miles for about the same price as a 2009 with 45k miles. Is there a clear advantage to one over the other?" Neither of these cars is "old", and I would expect her to drive it until it costs more to repair it than it is worth (like her current car), so resale is not an issue. I have a similar question about used camper vans of much higher age and milage. What thoughts? Michael Rowe From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Mar 3 17:30:59 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:30:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> Message-ID: <0CCC24209DEA4DA4B729035215E322AD@Dell9200> This is all making my head spin. Maybe we should all work and send all of our earnings to the Fed, then they can hand it back out equally. Oh, Wait a minute! Sounds like distributing the wealth, where did that come from? Buy more ammo..... Mark Nashville From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 3 17:46:46 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Milage vs. Age In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <656855910.1676859.1299199606622.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I would go to my local library, get the latest annual Consumers Report and check on the problems (or lack thereof) reported by users. It's what I do.. anyone else?? Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" Neither of these cars is "old", and I would expect her to drive it until it costs more to repair it than it is worth (like her current car), so resale is not an issue. I have a similar question about used camper vans of much higher age and milage. What thoughts? From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Mar 3 17:48:03 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:48:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> Message-ID: <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> > I'd be for "tax the rich, feed the poor" This brings up an interesting point: No one on this list is poor, or we would not be fussing with esoteric antique cars. So what is the dividing line between "rich" and "poor?" It used to be that a million dollars was a lot of money. Now I expect that many on this list are worth that including their homes. A millionaire in current parlance must make a million a year, or something like that, otherwise he hasn't really earned the title. But you don't need to be a millionaire to be seen as rich. (Anyone with more money than I have is rich.) So define "rich." Enough of taxes. Maybe we should talk about death for a while. :-) Michael Rowe Non-millionaire From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 18:08:50 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:08:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> Message-ID: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Michael Rowe wrote: > So define "rich." "What's money? A man is a success if he wakes up in the morning and goes to sleep at night and does what he wants to do in between." - Bob Dylan From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 18:21:39 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:21:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <62EFFCB5996E45BCA3ECCE3C50B372E0@HomePC> Damn, I like that one! -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:08 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Michael Rowe wrote: > So define "rich." "What's money? A man is a success if he wakes up in the morning and goes to sleep at night and does what he wants to do in between." - Bob Dylan Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From millerls at ado13.com Thu Mar 3 18:29:06 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:29:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1CDE8F37-B0C4-482E-8A37-DDBF58D1B5BB@ado13.com> Cool, I've been doing that for a long time. On Mar 3, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Michael Rowe wrote: >> So define "rich." > > "What's money? A man is a success if he wakes up in the morning and goes to sleep at night and does what he wants to do in between." > > - Bob Dylan From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 3 18:31:05 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:31:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> Message-ID: Derf, I only speak English fluently. Try reading for comprehension. What I wrote should be perfectly understandable to almost anybody who can read and write. I realize that you want to nail me every chance you get for your political reasons, but you are only exposing your own inadequacies. This is the third time today you have done so. Give it a rest. -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:22 PM To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes Yes, but he is saying it poorly. He should have said a flat tax would be a higher percentage of a lower income than it would be of a higher income. I understand what a flat tax is. I think most who champion a flat tax realize that there would also have to be a drastic change in sales tax to compensate. Last time I checked the top 50% of incomes pay about 97% of the taxes and the lower 50% pay about 3%. I'd be for "tax the rich, feed the poor" if the able bodied poor would all strive to be contributing members of society. One of the problems with the liberals is they tend to support a percentage of the populous and those supported are allowed to vote for the ones who give them money. I don't like seeing people using government funds at the grocery store to buy Lobster and Steak, taking out cash to pay for cigarettes and alcohol (the govt. won't pay for them, at least), and then putting all their stuff in a vehicle that is much nicer than mine. Call me a hater. I know, I should shop at "better" places, right? Whole Foods and World Market are farther away, though, and I feel like the people at those places are oblivious to what is going on over at the Wal*Mart grocery store. I'm for drug testing welfare recipients, too. I don't want to support their habits. I don't think illegal aliens should get free stuff from the government. I'm not so much conservative republican but more anti-liberal. How's that for politics? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 18:44:44 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:44:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Milage vs. Age In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: <4D70440C.9040202@tx.rr.com> > For example, looking at the Yaris, we can get a 2007 with 15k miles > for about the same price as a 2009 with 45k miles. Is there a clear > advantage to one over the other?" There is a big advantage to the 45k mile car- it will wear out much faster and then she can replace it with a real car. > would expect her to drive it until it costs more to repair it than it is worth That would be about the beginning of next month. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 18:49:46 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:49:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> Message-ID: <4D70453A.3020107@tx.rr.com> In Texas we have state and local sales taxes, currently 8% or so, and we don't have state income tax. I don't think a federal flat income tax would have any affect on our sales tax. Now for states with their own income tax they would have to decide whether to keep their income tax structure, convert to a flat tax or something else. > I understand what a flat tax is. I think most who champion a flat tax > realize that there would also have to be a drastic change in sales tax > to compensate. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 3 18:55:49 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:55:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <96151248.1676597.1299198251049.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <96151248.1676597.1299198251049.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D7046A5.80201@tx.rr.com> Flat tax typically means that everybody pays the same percentage of their income. There may or may not be various deductions associated with this. As said before a flat tax would reduce the taxes paid by the rich, because the flat percentage would be less than their current percentage. Tax loopholes and nefarious deductions are another thing. They reduce the income that is taxable. I've been told by my wife the CPA that there are far fewer loopholes and deductions now than there were in the past. I mentioned Henry Ford earlier. Apparently in his era in the 50's and 60's, there were a lot more deductions to abuse than there are now. Not that there aren't abuses, but it might be impossible to eliminate them. 7-figure bonuses for wall street, or for that matter big bonuses for any ceo that doesn't deserve them, are a whole different matter. I don't think anybody likes them except for the recipients. > Because, being in the financial business, if you remove all the tax loopholes and nefarious 'allowable' deductions, in other words, a true flat tax, the rich would have to start paying more. > > When millionaires being interviewed in the media proudly explain how they can avoid paying income taxes, there is something wrong! > > When a Wall St. worker getting a 6 figure salary gets a 7 figure 'bonus', there is something wrong !! From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 19:12:33 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 02:12:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <4D7046A5.80201@tx.rr.com> References: <96151248.1676597.1299198251049.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><4D7046A5.80201@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: In general I agree the flat tax will reduce the amount paid by the wealthy, however, there is a group of highly compensated private equity and real estate professionals that pay tax at the current lower capital gains rate. For them taxes could go up with a flat tax. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: BJNoSHOV8 Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:55:49 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes Flat tax typically means that everybody pays the same percentage of their income. There may or may not be various deductions associated with this. As said before a flat tax would reduce the taxes paid by the rich, because the flat percentage would be less than their current percentage. Tax loopholes and nefarious deductions are another thing. They reduce the income that is taxable. I've been told by my wife the CPA that there are far fewer loopholes and deductions now than there were in the past. I mentioned Henry Ford earlier. Apparently in his era in the 50's and 60's, there were a lot more deductions to abuse than there are now. Not that there aren't abuses, but it might be impossible to eliminate them. 7-figure bonuses for wall street, or for that matter big bonuses for any ceo that doesn't deserve them, are a whole different matter. I don't think anybody likes them except for the recipients. > Because, being in the financial business, if you remove all the tax loopholes and nefarious 'allowable' deductions, in other words, a true flat tax, the rich would have to start paying more. > > When millionaires being interviewed in the media proudly explain how they can avoid paying income taxes, there is something wrong! > > When a Wall St. worker getting a 6 figure salary gets a 7 figure 'bonus', there is something wrong !! _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu Mar 3 19:29:46 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:29:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> Message-ID: <4D704E9A.8070107@justbrits.com> << This brings up an interesting point: No one on this list is poor, >> BULL SH*T !!! << or we would not be fussing with esoteric antique cars. >> Michael, send me the necessary $$$$$$ so I can FIX & drive mine plz. I sure as He|| do NOT have ANY "fussing money" !!! And as [and as I have done for 18 years] usual, Personal Check IS **OK** !! Ed From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 19:38:58 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:38:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pistons and rods FS In-Reply-To: <250156.96265.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <299544.62259.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for all the responses. The set is sold. --- On Wed, 3/2/11, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pistons and rods FS > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 8:50 PM > Before I post to ebay on Friday > evening, I have a set of brand new AE 21251 pistons on > Cooper S rods with brand new AE AEB 572 tri-metal bearings > assembled and ready for installation for sale. Pistons are > standard size bore. The AEG 521 rods are, per Vizard's book" > "As far as strength is concerned, the Cooper "S" rod is the > best A-Series rod available." The setup is gorgeous, shown > here: > > http://tinyurl.com/1275rods-N-pistons > > or > > http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/1275%20Pistons%20Cooper%20S% 20rods%20trim-metal%20Bearings/ > > Rod bolts included, but nuts are not (I don't like the ones > that were on there; get some ARP ones please!) > > These were installed in a motor I bought but never saw a > single crank revolution. The motor was sold to a list member > almost upon purchase, but when I opened it up and inspected > it prior to shipping it, there were other issues and I would > not sell it as it was. I added the bearings. I am keeping > some of it and ebaying the rest. > > Price on asking (very fair but not cheap; this is a > beautiful setup). > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Mar 3 19:44:59 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:44:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> Message-ID: <4D70522B.8070101@comcast.net> On 3/3/2011 7:48 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Enough of taxes. Maybe we should talk about death for a while. :-) You can not die until you are finished paying taxes and even then..... there is still inheritance tax when you die. So eat, shit, pay taxes, and die. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Thu Mar 3 20:26:41 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:26:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> Message-ID: <007d01cbda1c$055cac10$10160430$@net> Funny remark Michael, as I know a couple of seriously "poor" people who own collector cars. They afford their cars by doing whatever they can to scrimp up the required $ to feed their addiction of classic cars. "Poor" is a relative term as there are many different avenues one can be "poor" in. There are government defined $ figures of what defines "poverty" but not "poor" as it is such a vague term. Very interesting discussion this has been about taxes and the unfairness of the system BUT power and money (taxation on those who have not by those who have) has never been about fairness. It was designed and implemented by the rich to keep lower class subjects in a position where their labor makes more money for the rich. I subscribe to the theory that there are only two classes of people. Those who own income producing means and those who work for the owner of those means. Unless you own the business which produces income then you are subject to the owners whims and devices and can go from being comfortable to being poor in the blink of an eye UNLESS you are quick to adapt and are resourceful. The main problem I see in the good old USA today is that adaptation and resourcefulness' are no longer taught to children by their parents thus setting them up for failure when life ( or business owners) throws them a curve. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:48 PM To: derf; bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes > I'd be for "tax the rich, feed the poor" This brings up an interesting point: No one on this list is poor, or we would not be fussing with esoteric antique cars. So what is the dividing line between "rich" and "poor?" It used to be that a million dollars was a lot of money. Now I expect that many on this list are worth that including their homes. A millionaire in current parlance must make a million a year, or something like that, otherwise he hasn't really earned the title. But you don't need to be a millionaire to be seen as rich. (Anyone with more money than I have is rich.) So define "rich." Enough of taxes. Maybe we should talk about death for a while. :-) Michael Rowe Non-millionaire Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Mar 3 20:42:33 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:42:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <007d01cbda1c$055cac10$10160430$@net> References: <20110303234211.TAWLT.7213.root@cdptpa-web08-z01> <55C60F5ABB9149949E1C11FD6360915E@Home> <007d01cbda1c$055cac10$10160430$@net> Message-ID: <725839398.20110303194233@pacifier.com> Hello, I don't usually get into off topic "discussions" but I have to weigh in here... there has been talk of a flat tax, and is displays how much everyone's perceptions have been warped. There is a difference between a "flat tax" and a "flat RATE tax". A FLAT Tax is .. everyone pays the same AMOUNT. .. $10, $1000, whatever. A Flat RATE tax is everyone pays the same percentage. It is still a tax on INCOME. Our founders strictly forbade ANY tax on INCOME and mandated a FLAT TAX ONLY. That was the purpose of the census. To determine by count the number of people, thus the amount of $$$ that would be brought into the federal coffers. No projections, no waffling, .. X number of people times X number of dollars. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" He who lose key to girlfriends apartment get no new key. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 22:05:09 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:05:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Elected officials In-Reply-To: <930669.27026.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <6ABA1753-8A28-496B-A9D3-EA94DE2E7199@wi.rr.com> <930669.27026.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Unless it is the insurance industry lobby.... ;-) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jay wrote: > > Lobbyists should be eliminated or their lobbying actions severely limited. From grday at btinternet.com Fri Mar 4 00:29:40 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 07:29:40 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Milage vs. Age References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: <90F0E25E405A4F5582409A9650FAF8F9@user8634b3d69b> A couple of considerations. 45K worth of freeway mileage is often not as bad as 15K driven in town. I would want to know how the mileage was gained but not from a car salesman! Did the previous owner have any bad habits such as clutch riding. Little old grannies can give a car a heck of a pasting! What mileage does your daughter do? If it is below average it may be worth buying the higher mileage but younger car and she'll still have some re-sale value a couple of years down the line when the mileage has balanced out. If it is going to be kept, then general condition may be more important; tin worm always grows, it never shrinks! Does the 2009 have any technical specification alterations to the 2007? For me, the advantage would come from knowing how it has been used from new, who drove it and how it was driven. Regards, Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Cc: "Courtney Ka`ohinani Rowe" Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:30 AM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Milage vs. Age > My daughter needs a new used car, and has posed the following question: > > "wondering if you have any advice > about whether it is a better deal to get a newer year car, or one with > less milage. For example, looking at the Yaris, we can get a 2007 > with 15k miles for about the same price as a 2009 with 45k miles. > Is there a clear advantage to one over the other?" > > Neither of these cars is "old", and I would expect her to drive it until > it costs more to repair it than it is worth (like her current car), so > resale is not an issue. I have a similar question about used camper vans > of much higher age and milage. > > What thoughts? > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Mar 4 03:52:17 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 02:52:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) Message-ID: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> In what may well be an automotive industry first, Mazda is recalling 52,000 cars because of the potential for a vent line to be clogged by -- you guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) "A certain type of spider may weave a web in the evaporative canister vent line and this may cause a restriction in the line," warns the official recall notice from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If a spider does weave its tangled web there, it could prevent vapors from escaping the fuel tank and "eventually result in a crack, potentially leading to fuel leakage and an increased risk of fire." The recall applies to 2009-2010 model year Mazda6's. Back in October 2009, the automaker examined a Mazda6 with a crack in the fuel tank and, lo and behold, found a spider web in the vent line. "Our subsequent investigation revealed that a spider web caused a restriction in the canister vent line," Mazda informed NHTSA in a letter dated Feb. 25. Owners of the midsize sedan will need to take their car to a Mazda dealership where a special valve designed to "prohibit spider intrusion" will be installed. Mazda says no fires, accidents, or injuries are known to have been caused by this insect-related issue. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 06:20:15 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 05:20:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT -Jobs available again - was Re: Taxes was Parking tickets In-Reply-To: <343189.56552.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <302773.30251.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> C'mon guys - 52 emails received from the list during work hours yesterday complaining about taxes and the economy and not one applying for one of the jobs below? Help us out here - forward to someone you know who may be looking. --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Ron Soave wrote: > I just got a request for quote today, we will win with the > right people. I need 21 people FAST. If you can tolerate > working in Rockford, IL and are one of the following, please > let me know (this applies to all ;-)). > > Mechanical Engineers - BS degree in engineering and minimum > of 1 year experience up to more than 8 years experience > > System Mechanical Engineers - BS degree in engineering and > at least 4 years experience > > System Electrical Engineers - BS degree in engineering and > at least 4 years experience > > Mechanical Designers/Drafters - At least 1 year MCAD > drafting experience; general machining, fabrication, and > manufacturing knowledge required > > Engineering Project Coordinator - Prior project management > experience. Technical degree preferred > > Material Planner - Buying, material planning, production > planning experience required. 4 year degree in > relevant field. APICS certification a plus. > > Sorry for the Off-topic, but it seemed relevant. > > Respond off list. Thanks - > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 06:53:49 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:53:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Humor In-Reply-To: References: <14583BFE37BD4799AA1281F209A29B34@Home>, , <201103031239785.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, Message-ID: well ... we're going to be above freezing for the next 3 days!!! :) > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com > > in the high 70's tomorrow.... > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > > > Snow tonight..... > > > > > > > > At 02:37 PM 3/3/2011, Lester wrote: > > > >> Riiiggghhhttt... spring has come and gone. High's close to 80 > >> degrees last week. Next you'll try to convince me that the Earth is > >> round. > >> > >> Lester > >> > >> > >> On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >> > >> I am delighted to see that at least some of us have retained a sense > >>> of humor in these dog days of Winter. Fear not. Spring is coming. > >>> > >>> Michael Rowe From lmacy at mac.com Fri Mar 4 06:54:09 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 08:54:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The Second Attempt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL When I saw the Cars in the early 80's, they were in a stadium, not a pool. Wonder if the water ruined Ric's shoes?? On Mar 2, 2011, at 21:01 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Is this the cars floating? > ( skip to 1:40, if you wish. ) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bEu9wLDjKY >> From: kgrowler at gmail.com >> >> Ron Soave said: >> >> >> >> Is that a question or statement? I think it was Keith Moon. >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. - Edgar Allen Poe From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 07:40:37 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:40:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> Message-ID: I heard that on the news this morning. I'm not sure if it was a fact or just an assumption by the news team but the announcer said something to the effect of "... they have no idea why spiders are attracted to this particular model." Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > > In what may well be an automotive industry first, Mazda is recalling 52,000 > cars because of the potential for a vent line to be clogged by -- you > guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 08:29:00 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:29:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC>, <201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com>, Message-ID: Probably the part that makes people think, is that all loopholes and deductions (theoretically) get removed under the flat tax system and everyone is then taxed on actual income, not income after deductions. So, the math becomes simple under flat tax ... but it is not currently simple. So it is hard to imagine what income ( after creative accounting and legal deductions are made ) someone is paying taxes on. Plus there are rules like these:http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.htmland then the provincial:http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html#provincial statscan has all kinds of statistics on income demographics. Near as I can figure with the little effort I am willing to put in, in 2008 in Canada, approx 2/3rds of the population reported income. 24,713,470 people. Of those, 14,361,930 earned less than $35k, 9,026,610 earned between 35 and 100k and 1,342,930 earned over 100k. ( how much over $250,000 is an unknown, so it gets even more difficult to figure out the tax dollars paid by that group ) That translates to 58% lower; 36.5% middle; and 5.5% upper incomes. Knock yourself out:http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/FAMIL105A-eng.htm Robert > From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > Damn, why is this so hard to figure out? > > If high-earners percentage of tax burden goes down (which it will), they pay > less. > > If low-earners percentage of tax burden goes up (which it will), they pay > more. > > Wake up, people. This just isn't that big of a mystery. It really is > simple math! > > Being in the financial industry, I tend to think this stuff is just plain > common sense, but, really, this is some pretty simple stuff. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Yealy > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:49 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes > > This has to be the way you figure it out with that new math they are > learning in school. I never did understand it, I still like the old way. > > Dave > > > At 03:24 PM 3/3/2011, you wrote: > >And for all of you flat tax fans, chew on this: if everybody pays the same > >percentage of their income in taxes, that means that the people who make > >the > >most money pay less and the people who make the least pay more. So, unless > >you are a CEO of a large corporation or a hedge fund manager or anybody > >else > >making mega-bucks, your taxes are going up. The more you make and the more > >you can afford to pay, the less you will pay. The less you make and the > >less you can afford to pay more taxes, the more you will have to pay. > > > >Great idea. > > > >Did you really think this through? > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robertduquette at sympatico.ca From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Mar 4 08:35:03 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:35:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110304153503.MFJHV.2994.root@hrndva-web26-z01> Its actually a promotion for something else. I bet its a trailer for a sequel to "Snakes On a Plane." Watch for "Spiders In a Mazda" in a theater near you. ---- Robert Duquette wrote: > I heard that on the news this morning. I'm not sure if it was a fact or just > an assumption by the news team but the announcer said something to the effect > of "... they have no idea why spiders are attracted to this particular > model." > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 08:53:31 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:53:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> Message-ID: This is completely believable (at least to me). At airports there is a sensor mounted along runways which determines horizontal visibility using an optical/laser system. Several times a year the transmitter and the receiver have to be cleaned because extremely tiny, airborne spiders roost in them and fill them with web. These little guys put out a string of web which acts like a sale in the wind picking them up and carrying them for many miles. Talk about saving gas! -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I heard that on the news this morning. I'm not sure if it was a fact or > just > an assumption by the news team but the announcer said something to the > effect > of "... they have no idea why spiders are attracted to this particular > model." > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > > > > In what may well be an automotive industry first, Mazda is recalling > 52,000 > > cars because of the potential for a vent line to be clogged by -- you > > guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 08:54:14 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:54:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC>, , <201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com>, , , Message-ID: I really should read all the emails before I start replying and saying things that have already been said. :) Robert From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 08:59:24 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:59:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> <201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <-7631382002101498758@unknownmsgid> As someone mentioned earlier, flat rate taxes sound marvelous, but what is "income"? If my stocks go up, is that income? If my company makes a profit, is that income? If my house "value" goes up? If someone sells a Bugeye for $30,000, does that represent income to me? As long as the rich dudes are willing to pay fancy lawyers and accountants instead of the government... David L From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 09:02:12 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:02:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <62EFFCB5996E45BCA3ECCE3C50B372E0@HomePC> References: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <62EFFCB5996E45BCA3ECCE3C50B372E0@HomePC> Message-ID: Me too! I wish I had enough money to live like that! ;) Robert > From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > Damn, I like that one! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Soave > > --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Michael Rowe wrote: > > So define "rich." > > "What's money? A man is a success if he wakes up in the morning and goes to > sleep at night and does what he wants to do in between." > > - Bob Dylan From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Mar 4 09:04:58 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:04:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] One bucket of water Message-ID: <4D710DAA.3000200@wi.net> Thought I'd lighten it up a bit. How to wash a car with one bucket of water. Don't think we should offer this service at the Midget 50th. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxLhOztE2nQ Could be used to get rid of the competition at a Targa event! DW From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 09:17:26 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:17:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> <201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Probably the part that makes people think, is that all loopholes and > deductions (theoretically) get removed under the flat tax system and > everyone > is then taxed on actual income, not income after deductions. > Bingo, Robert. What it does by eliminating all the deductions and loop holes is to insure that the wealthy DO pay their fair share. Presently quite a few of them use all the loopholes and deductions as well as hiding income in foreign banks so that they are not paying their share. This is less true of the individual wealthy than corporations, many of which pay little or nothing in taxes due to the exclusions in the code. The current tax system is a horrid mess of regulations, exclusions and exceptions which become even more complicated the more income one has. Large corporations often employ a whole team of tax attorneys whose job it is to beat the system - something they excel in! The small guy can't do that and therefore bears the bulk of the burden. Moreover, something like 40% of the US population pay no tax at all. Finally, the IRS has become a bureaucratic leviathan costing more to keep in business each year and doing what all bureaucracies do, complicating the issue daily. A flat tax ain't the perfect answer, but it's way better than what we have now... - Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From grday at btinternet.com Fri Mar 4 09:18:43 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:18:43 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> Message-ID: <31D828C20B1C42FF8CD988425A7D6333@user8634b3d69b> When this was given out as the jokey item to round off at the end of the news they said it was something to do with 'the yellow colour of the fuel line'. LOL Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) >I heard that on the news this morning. I'm not sure if it was a fact or >just > an assumption by the news team but the announcer said something to the > effect > of "... they have no idea why spiders are attracted to this particular > model." > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > >> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com >> >> In what may well be an automotive industry first, Mazda is recalling >> 52,000 >> cars because of the potential for a vent line to be clogged by -- you >> guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 09:18:50 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:18:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <20110304153503.MFJHV.2994.root@hrndva-web26-z01> References: <20110304153503.MFJHV.2994.root@hrndva-web26-z01> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, wrote: > Watch for "Spiders In a Mazda" in a theater near you. > Starring Muammar Qaddafi and Charlie Sheen -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 09:32:28 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:32:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider>, , Message-ID: Could this be why people in convertibles used to wear long silk scarves? :) > These little guys put out a string of web > which acts like a sale in the wind picking them up and carrying them for > many miles. Talk about saving gas! > -- > Cheers!! > Jim From shop at justbrits.com Fri Mar 4 09:47:37 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:47:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> Message-ID: <4D7117A9.1070505@justbrits.com> << acts like a sale in the wind >> Interesting Jim, BUT what in the world are they selling ???? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Mar 4 10:37:12 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 09:37:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That's more a definition of being single and childless. > A man is a success if he wakes up in the morning and goes to sleep at night > and does what he wants to do in between." > > - Bob Dylan From edwd at ti.com Fri Mar 4 10:58:48 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:58:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: When considering a used car I have rarely been put off by high mileage, providing that there is documentation showing regular and preventative maintenance performed per schedule. This can be as much documentation as dealership stamping or as little as a notebook in the glovebox dutifully filled out by the owner (you have to be a good judge of character). Also, when the right brand of car is purchased mileage isn't necessarily a factor either. I have Honda's and Toyotas that have over 200K and I would drive them coast to coast tomorrow with not so much as a screwdriver in the trunk. That is not to say that Chevy and Ford and whatnot won't do well too, please don't misunderstand my meaning, it is just that my experience has shown Honda, Toyota, Nissan in that order are my preference for a vehicle that I don't have to wrench to drive. They are also what the women and children in my life drive so there is no drama. Then, my favorite is when the owner can show that the replacement parts chosen were genuine OEM. It shows that the they appreciate the engineering and manufacturing quality of the original parts and that they didn't cheap out and buy Autozone junk to toss in the car when an ancillary item needed replacement. Finally, I arm myself with Consumer Reports and check the reliability on whatever brand/model I am replacing as even the best auto makers have issues in some areas at some times. For instance, the 6 cylinder Toyotas had sludge issues in the mid 90's. Don't forget CarFax or a similar check to get the history of the vehicle. In my case not all cars sold in Texas originated here and some were shipped from up North to the market here. I had enough salt and corrosion from my first 24 years of life in NE Ohio to put up with that now. All that said, these are only my opinions, but have served me well in the ownership of 75 cars or so in my 53 years. Best of luck. Ed Fisher Dallas, Tx From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 11:13:51 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:13:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <916407.56108.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Or not letting them find you ... ( ie: being on tour ;) ) > From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > > That's more a definition of being single and childless. > > A man is a success if he wakes up in the morning and goes to sleep at night > > and does what he wants to do in between." > > > > - Bob Dylan > _______________________________________________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Mar 4 11:30:40 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:30:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> Message-ID: <008CD8F3-1222-401C-BBE7-105CB11DD191@comcast.net> You know that somewhere there is an engineer with his face in his hands crying.. "Spiders?? Are you kidding me? I spent 8 years of my life designing that...That system can survive a nuclear blast but spiders???" Lester On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:52 AM, wrote: > In what may well be an automotive industry first, Mazda is recalling 52,000 > cars because of the potential for a vent line to be clogged by -- you > guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) > > "A certain type of spider may weave a web in the evaporative canister vent > line and this may cause a restriction in the line," warns the official > recall notice from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If a > spider does weave its tangled web there, it could prevent vapors from > escaping the fuel tank and "eventually result in a crack, potentially > leading to fuel leakage and an increased risk of fire." > > The recall applies to 2009-2010 model year Mazda6's. Back in October 2009, > the automaker examined a Mazda6 with a crack in the fuel tank and, lo and > behold, found a spider web in the vent line. > > "Our subsequent investigation revealed that a spider web caused a > restriction in the canister vent line," Mazda informed NHTSA in a letter > dated Feb. 25. > > Owners of the midsize sedan will need to take their car to a Mazda > dealership where a special valve designed to "prohibit spider intrusion" > will be installed. > > Mazda says no fires, accidents, or injuries are known to have been caused by > this insect-related issue. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 11:32:25 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:32:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Holy ...!!!! I'm 53+ and I just did a count and I think I've only had 13, ( not counting 2 parts cars ) and I still have 4 ( 5 sort of; holding one for my son ) of them. datsun 510 mgb fiat spider mailbu lemans sprite p2000 wagon p6000 wagon Midget taurus wagon subaru x1/9 100 Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > From: edwd at ti.com > the ownership of 75 cars or so in > my 53 years. Best of luck. > > Ed Fisher > Dallas, Tx > _______________________________________________ From pfeilmat at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 12:34:22 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:34:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <008CD8F3-1222-401C-BBE7-105CB11DD191@comcast.net> References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> <008CD8F3-1222-401C-BBE7-105CB11DD191@comcast.net> Message-ID: <78CCC16B-AD0D-446D-8014-0A8B806D418F@gmail.com> Maybe they should send the faulty parts to NASA to examine. I find it hard to believe that a spider web could restrict fuel vapor enough to crack a fuel tank. Matt P On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Lester wrote: > You know that somewhere there is an engineer with his face in his hands > crying.. "Spiders?? Are you kidding me? I spent 8 years of my life designing > that...That system can survive a nuclear blast but spiders???" > > Lester > > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:52 AM, > wrote: > >> In what may well be an automotive industry first, Mazda is recalling 52,000 >> cars because of the potential for a vent line to be clogged by -- you >> guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) >> >> "A certain type of spider may weave a web in the evaporative canister vent >> line and this may cause a restriction in the line," warns the official >> recall notice from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If a >> spider does weave its tangled web there, it could prevent vapors from >> escaping the fuel tank and "eventually result in a crack, potentially >> leading to fuel leakage and an increased risk of fire." >> >> The recall applies to 2009-2010 model year Mazda6's. Back in October 2009, >> the automaker examined a Mazda6 with a crack in the fuel tank and, lo and >> behold, found a spider web in the vent line. >> >> "Our subsequent investigation revealed that a spider web caused a >> restriction in the canister vent line," Mazda informed NHTSA in a letter >> dated Feb. 25. >> >> Owners of the midsize sedan will need to take their car to a Mazda >> dealership where a special valve designed to "prohibit spider intrusion" >> will be installed. >> >> Mazda says no fires, accidents, or injuries are known to have been caused > by >> this insect-related issue. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From pfeilmat at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 12:45:03 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:45:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am 35 and have owned 14 cars so far. starting from first to last: 1. 1979 Honda Civic CVCC 2. 1980 Datsun 810 Station Wagon 3. 1964 VW Bus 4. 1979 VW Bus 5. 1982 Nissan/Datsun Sentra 6. 1993 Hyundai Excel Hatchback 7. 1976 MG Midget (Owned Twice) 8. 1985 Olds Delta 88 9. 1978 MG Midget 10. 1993 VW Passat GLX 11. 2001 Chrysler Sebring LXI Coupe 12. 1965 Ford F-100 13. 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser 14. 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse The only pattern of ownership I can see is that I am trying to own at least one car from each area of the world. The current vehicles are the Eclipse, FJ, and the F-100. Matt P On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Holy ...!!!! > I'm 53+ and I just did a count and I think I've only had 13, ( not counting 2 > parts cars ) and I still have 4 ( 5 sort of; holding one for my son ) of > them. > > datsun 510 mgb fiat spider mailbu lemans sprite p2000 wagon p6000 wagon > Midget taurus wagon subaru x1/9 100 > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen > )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > > > > > > >> From: edwd at ti.com > >> the ownership of 75 cars or so in >> my 53 years. Best of luck. >> >> Ed Fisher >> Dallas, Tx >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 4 13:35:47 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <935947669.1687703.1299270947501.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> "You've only just begun"! P.S. I'm 74 and I've lost count ;'( Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" Holy ...!!!! I'm 53+ and I just did a count and I think I've only had 13, ( not counting 2 parts cars ) and I still have 4 ( 5 sort of; holding one for my son ) of them. From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Mar 4 13:38:22 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <2051131118.935939.1299271021944.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> That is only because I don't own one! I am terrified of spiders, and have been known to bail out of a moving car when I saw a spider hanging above my head. Just for the record, a '79 Dodge pickup will go into park at 20mph, and continue to give many more years of reliable service. Fortunately, a very nice traffic cop drove by, observed me standing in the road screaming "Kill it, kill it, kill it!", and stopped to see if there might be a problem. When I told him either he squash it or I shoot it, he decided that bug squashing was within his job description. Just one more reason to buy American. Kate Mazda says no fires, accidents, or injuries are known to have been caused by this insect-related issue. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 13:45:51 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:45:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <4D7117A9.1070505@justbrits.com> References: <8DFF818318F7439A9AE62DDF37798E87@spider> <4D7117A9.1070505@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Oooops!! Apparently its not dictionaries... On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << acts like a sale in the wind >> > > Interesting Jim, BUT what in the world are they selling ???? > -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri Mar 4 14:22:39 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:22:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20110304212240.TKJAF.5763.root@cdptpa-web06-z01> I'd like to see that whole thing on youtube! > That is only because I don't own one! I am terrified of spiders, and have been known to bail out of a moving car when I saw a spider hanging above my head. Just for the record, a '79 Dodge pickup will go into park at 20mph, and continue to give many more years of reliable service. Fortunately, a very nice traffic cop drove by, observed me standing in the road screaming "Kill it, kill it, kill it!", and stopped to see if there might be a problem. When I told him either he squash it or I shoot it, he decided that bug squashing was within his job description. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 4 14:32:55 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:32:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <2051131118.935939.1299271021944.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>, <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: You bought the cop?? :) Robert > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:38:22 +0000 > From: kgb at frontiernet.net Fortunately, a very nice traffic cop drove by, observed me standing in the road screaming "Kill it, kill it, kill it!", and stopped to see if there might be a problem. When I told him either he squash it or I shoot it, he decided that bug squashing was within his job description. > > Just one more reason to buy American. > > Kate From george.brokaw at cox.net Fri Mar 4 14:57:51 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:57:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <20110304212240.TKJAF.5763.root@cdptpa-web06-z01> References: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <20110304212240.TKJAF.5763.root@cdptpa-web06-z01> Message-ID: <057a01cbdab7$35045da0$9f0d18e0$@brokaw@cox.net> I keep seeing this picture of Arlo Guthrie jumping up and down and yelling "Kill, Kill, Kill" just before he was sent to the group "W" bench... Alice's Restaurant Massacree... ;^) Paul -----Original Message----- I'd like to see that whole thing on youtube! > That is only because I don't own one! I am terrified of spiders, and have been known to bail out of a moving car when I saw a spider hanging above my head. Just for the record, a '79 Dodge pickup will go into park at 20mph, and continue to give many more years of reliable service. Fortunately, a very nice traffic cop drove by, observed me standing in the road screaming "Kill it, kill it, kill it!", and stopped to see if there might be a problem. When I told him either he squash it or I shoot it, he decided that bug squashing was within his job description. _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 15:21:34 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:21:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <739441.36463.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You would not believe the things I have cleaned out of cabin air ducting on aircraft. The most remarkable were 20 or 30 frogs on a 707 USAF plane (JSTARS) in Florida. It was quite a shock to see them on the borescope, and they were all alive and hoped out one after the other for several minutes. Ron --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Jim Johnson wrote: > From: Jim Johnson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) > To: > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 9:53 AM > This is completely believable (at > least to me). At airports there is a > sensor > mounted along runways which determines horizontal > visibility using an > optical/laser system. Several times a year the transmitter > and the receiver > have to be cleaned because extremely tiny, airborne spiders > roost in > them and fill them with web. These little guys put out a > string of web > which acts like a sale in the wind picking them up and > carrying them for > many miles. Talk about saving gas! > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, > D.C. and couldn't > find work. > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Robert Duquette > wrote: > > > I heard that on the news this morning. I'm not > sure if it was a fact or > > just > > an assumption by the news team but the announcer said > something to the > > effect > > of "... they have no idea why spiders are attracted to > this particular > > model." > > > > Robert Duquette > > > > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > > > > > > In what may well be an automotive industry first, > Mazda is recalling > > 52,000 > > > cars because of the potential for a vent line to > be clogged by -- you > > > guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Mar 4 15:34:38 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:34:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net> On 3/4/2011 2:45 PM, Matt P wrote: > I am 35 and have owned 14 cars so far. starting from first to last: Amateurs! I have had 66 Sprigets 12 "other British" 7 pick up trucks 7 Fords 1 BMW 1 Chebby Total number of cars at 56 years old = 94 My son and daughter are following their old man real close with better than 1 car per year of driving so far. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 16:12:03 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:12:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: BEWARE USA "Union made" NISSANS!! I own two, and I will NEVER do that again. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Fisher, Ed wrote: > When considering a used car I have rarely been put off by high mileage, > providing that there is documentation showing regular and preventative > maintenance performed per schedule. This can be as much documentation as > dealership stamping or as little as a notebook in the glovebox dutifully > filled out by the owner (you have to be a good judge of character). Also, > when the right brand of car is purchased mileage isn't necessarily a factor > either. I have Honda's and Toyotas that have over 200K and I would drive > them > coast to coast tomorrow with not so much as a screwdriver in the trunk. > That > is not to say that Chevy and Ford and whatnot won't do well too, please > don't > misunderstand my meaning, it is just that my experience has shown Honda, > Toyota, Nissan in that order are my preference for a vehicle that I don't > have > to wrench to drive. They are also what the women and children in my life > drive so there is no drama. Then, my favorite is when the owner can show > that > the replacement parts chosen were genuine OEM. It shows that the they > appreciate the engineering and manufacturing quality of the original parts > and > that they didn't cheap out and buy Autozone junk to toss in the car when an > ancillary item needed replacement. Finally, I arm myself with Consumer > Reports and check the reliability on whatever brand/model I am replacing as > even the best auto makers have issues in some areas at some times. For > instance, the 6 cylinder Toyotas had sludge issues in the mid 90's. Don't > forget CarFax or a similar check to get the history of the vehicle. In my > case not all cars sold in Texas originated here and some were shipped from > up > North to the market here. I had enough salt and corrosion from my first 24 > years of life in NE Ohio to put up with that now. All that said, these are > only my opinions, but have served me well in the ownership of 75 cars or so > in > my 53 years. Best of luck. > > Ed Fisher > Dallas, Tx > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 16:23:07 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:23:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] One bucket of water In-Reply-To: <4D710DAA.3000200@wi.net> References: <4D710DAA.3000200@wi.net> Message-ID: that is hilarious. Lin On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Woerpel wrote: > Thought I'd lighten it up a bit. > > How to wash a car with one bucket of water. > > Don't think we should offer this service at the Midget 50th. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxLhOztE2nQ > > Could be used to get rid of the competition at a Targa event! > > DW > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 18:02:01 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:02:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Frank Clarici wrote: > Amateurs! > I have had 66 Sprigets > 12 "other British" > 7 pick up trucks > 7 Fords > 1 BMW > 1 Chebby I am humbled, but this should be fun. I'm 45 and I don't think I am remembering them all, but these were the ones I can recall registering: 1978 MGB 1987 MR2 1990 Miata 1980 Spitfire 1987 Lotus Esprit 1984 Olds beach car 1960 AH Sprite 1958 Sprite 1968 Midget 1967 AH Sprite 1970 MGB GT 1970 MG Midget 1987 BMW 1997 BMW 2001 Miata 2002 F-150 1978 Alfa Spider 2007 Corvette 200? Buick (inherited and sold) Had a financial interest in wife's: 1976 Honda Civic 1982 Plymouth TC3 1988 Ford Festiva 199? Camry 199? Sienna 2006 Subaru Tribeca 2011 Cadillac SRX 1974 Pontiac Ventura 1970 Buick Le Sabre ($5, lasted 6 days) From bkitterer at me.com Fri Mar 4 18:51:57 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:51:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3DF6B954-1470-4AB3-BB09-CC3BD5DE9F45@me.com> I was going t respond but now it not worth while ! Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Frank Clarici wrote: >> Amateurs! >> I have had 66 Sprigets >> 12 "other British" >> 7 pick up trucks >> 7 Fords >> 1 BMW >> 1 Chebby > > I am humbled, but this should be fun. I'm 45 and I don't think I am remembering them all, but these were the ones I can recall registering: > > 1978 MGB > 1987 MR2 > 1990 Miata > 1980 Spitfire > 1987 Lotus Esprit > 1984 Olds beach car > 1960 AH Sprite > 1958 Sprite > 1968 Midget > 1967 AH Sprite > 1970 MGB GT > 1970 MG Midget > 1987 BMW > 1997 BMW > 2001 Miata > 2002 F-150 > 1978 Alfa Spider > 2007 Corvette > 200? Buick (inherited and sold) > > Had a financial interest in wife's: > 1976 Honda Civic > 1982 Plymouth TC3 > 1988 Ford Festiva > 199? Camry > 199? Sienna > 2006 Subaru Tribeca > 2011 Cadillac SRX > 1974 Pontiac Ventura > 1970 Buick Le Sabre ($5, lasted 6 days) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 18:53:22 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:53:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net> <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hmm, are we allowed to discuss such things on the guns and politics list? 1972 Chevelle 307 3-speed 1973 Nova hatchback 1987 Plymouth Duster 2.2 5-speed 1979 Plymouth Horizon 4-speed 1979 Honda Civic CVCC 1995 Escort wagon 5-speed 1996 Ford Windstar (wife's car) 1974 MGB 1974 Midget 1972 Midget 1973 Midget 2002 VW GTi VR6 1974 Midget 1960 Bugeye Still have the last five. David L From davriker at nwi.net Fri Mar 4 20:09:17 2011 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:09:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net><264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <378FD08C02564BF7851DA5A77A72FAF3@RikerPC> As a challenge, I have tried to find a picture of every car I've ever owned, either the actual picture, or one from the internet that is at least the correct color. I haven't posted pictures of the duplicates, after all only we would have any interest in the 20 some odd Midgets that have crossed the driveway. Here's the link to the album. It was a fun exercise. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=4663&id=100001711356803&l=21eff07d48 David Riker -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Hmm, are we allowed to discuss such things on the guns and politics list? 1972 Chevelle 307 3-speed 1973 Nova hatchback 1987 Plymouth Duster 2.2 5-speed 1979 Plymouth Horizon 4-speed 1979 Honda Civic CVCC 1995 Escort wagon 5-speed 1996 Ford Windstar (wife's car) 1974 MGB 1974 Midget 1972 Midget 1973 Midget 2002 VW GTi VR6 1974 Midget 1960 Bugeye Still have the last five. David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/davriker at nwi.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 From davriker at nwi.net Fri Mar 4 20:59:05 2011 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:59:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <-7631382002101498758@unknownmsgid> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC><201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> <-7631382002101498758@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: BINGO! We have a winner. "What is Income?" Abolish "Income" taxes all together. It is impossible to be fair when you can't define that which you are taxing. INSTEAD... tax cash flow. A consumption tax on everything but food, and at all levels. Every time a company buys something, it pays the tax, every time you buy something, you pay the tax. Isn't it called a VAT? Don't want to pay taxes? BUY USED, BUY PRIVATE PARTY, BARTER. States that balance their budgets just fine without an income tax get their revenue from property tax and sales tax. Poor people buy less stuff, and cheaper stuff, so they pay less taxes. Poor people own less stuff, so they pay less property taxes. Rich people buy expensive stuff, so they would pay more taxes. Even people who earn their money illegally use that money to buy STUFF, so tax the STUFF. David Riker -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:59 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taxes As someone mentioned earlier, flat rate taxes sound marvelous, but what is "income"? If my stocks go up, is that income? If my company makes a profit, is that income? If my house "value" goes up? If someone sells a Bugeye for $30,000, does that represent income to me? As long as the rich dudes are willing to pay fancy lawyers and accountants instead of the government... David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/davriker at nwi.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Mar 4 21:28:14 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:28:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Check this out Message-ID: <4D71BBDE.1030102@comcast.net> Sorry but tiny url seems to be lost in cyber space. Anyway, I thought MY Sprite had a few too many gauges. this one must be a driver's ed Spridget ;) http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/?action=view¤t=driversed.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Mar 4 21:46:40 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:46:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC><201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> <-7631382002101498758@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4D71C030.90807@comcast.net> On 3/4/2011 10:59 PM, David Riker wrote: > BINGO! We have a winner. "What is Income?" Abolish "Income" taxes all > together. It is impossible to be fair when you can't define that which > you are taxing. INSTEAD... tax cash flow. A consumption tax on > everything but food, and at all levels. Isn't that what they call sales tax now? > Don't want to pay taxes? BUY USED, BUY > PRIVATE PARTY, BARTER. But I just paid sales tax on a used trailer, I pay sales tax on dead Sprites that were sold BEFORE sales tax was thought up in this state. And not being the first buyer, several have paid sales tax on this used car. I was in a barter system for a very brief while, we were supposed to pay taxes on the services we received via the barter system. Private party... I just received my flier for Spring Englishtown, It states that ALL venders "should" collect sales tax. And that is on old used auto parts which have had sales tax paid on them 4, 5, 6 times or more. As my Dad keeps saying....1967. he could afford his property tax here in NJ We had no sales tax but a "temporary 3% sales tax was on the horizon. (temporary because it went to 5, 6, now 7%) No income tax, no lottery money for the State, and no Casino revenue. Yet we managed and lived well in a water front custom built house with a new Chevy wagon, his decent TR3, 1 cabin cruiser boat, 1 new outboard speed boat, I had a row boat with an outboard motor and my brother had a sail boat. We all had new bicycles and shoes on our feet. Mom never worked, Dad made $235 a week and there were 5 kids, 1 was a new born and I was 12 (the oldest) I can tell you where it all went wrong. Lydon Baines Johnson (D) decided to start handing out money to people who did not work so us stupid people with jobs have to pay more and more for those who choose not to work. And now Obummer (D) is giving those same 4th generation handout receivers free cell phones but you and I, because we choose to work, have to buy our own cell phones. But there is nothing wrong with this picture. I can bitch about it all I want but what I should do is just stop working and ask for my free cell phone, hell I can even keep my same number! And get a rent check, food stamps and spending cash just for staying home and watching Oprah on my jumbo high def flat screen. So WHO is the stupid one? I am, and so are you if you have a job. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri Mar 4 22:15:33 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:15:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC><201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> <-7631382002101498758@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4D71C6F5.9010407@tx.rr.com> I'm not sure why you exempted food, but that's a separate discussion. I've heard about "flat rate tax" and "sales tax" before. It seems that sales tax might be more fair to all different income levels. I've been trying to figure out how this could be applied to higher income levels without abuses. I think some high income earners get around taxes by having their companies buy things for them, but if there are taxes when a company buys something as well as when an individual buys them, then the taxes get charged either way. The hard part with this system will be the collection of taxes. How can you be sure that everyone that sells something pays taxes on it. For instance now we have a company that sells a product to a distributor, that sells it to a retailer, that sells it to the consumer. The product goes through lots of different hands but it is the retailer that collects the tax. So the tax collector has to get the tax from the right sales level, and they have to determine how much was sold in order to know how much tax to collect. This would be the hard part. A retailer could say that they sold 10 refrigerators this month, or they could lie and say they only sold 5 refrigerators. It would take a lot of man hours to audit this system to determine if they were correct or not. I don't think we need to increase the size of the IRS anymore than they are now. > BINGO! We have a winner. "What is Income?" Abolish "Income" taxes > all together. It is impossible to be fair when you can't define that > which you are taxing. INSTEAD... tax cash flow. A consumption tax on > everything but food, and at all levels. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 23:15:49 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 00:15:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <378FD08C02564BF7851DA5A77A72FAF3@RikerPC> References: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net> <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <378FD08C02564BF7851DA5A77A72FAF3@RikerPC> Message-ID: Wives: Barbara (British) 1968 - 1980 Lori ('Mercan) 1982 - 1984 Carolyn ('Okie) 1984 - Present 12 cars and 21 motorcycles.... Cheers!! Jim From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 01:53:26 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 02:53:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Check this out In-Reply-To: <4D71BBDE.1030102@comcast.net> References: <4D71BBDE.1030102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6007060845205023568@unknownmsgid> Yeah, that is a Midget owned by my friend Gryf in St Louis. Didn't you notice it at LotO? He had it there ;-) Yes, the cockpit was photochopped in. A mutual friend of ours, also at LotO, built a custom console to house 10 mostly superfluous gauges, so Gryf had to one-up him. David L From grday at btinternet.com Sat Mar 5 04:56:50 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:56:50 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) References: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <95200CC9EB974F48839BAB1120EF01B3@user8634b3d69b> I've had to deal with the same situation with both wife and youngest daughter and their love of spiders! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) > That is only because I don't own one! I am terrified of spiders, and have > been known to bail out of a moving car when I saw a spider hanging above > my head. Just for the record, a '79 Dodge pickup will go into park at > 20mph, and continue to give many more years of reliable service. > Fortunately, a very nice traffic cop drove by, observed me standing in the > road screaming "Kill it, kill it, kill it!", and stopped to see if there > might be a problem. When I told him either he squash it or I shoot it, he > decided that bug squashing was within his job description. > > Just one more reason to buy American. > > Kate > > Mazda says no fires, accidents, or injuries are known to have been caused > by > this insect-related issue. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 06:26:30 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:26:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Check this out In-Reply-To: <4D71BBDE.1030102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <482531.63576.qm@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> That baby must fly! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Frank Clarici wrote: From: Frank Clarici Subject: [Spridgets] Check this out To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 11:28 PM Sorry but tiny url seems to be lost in cyber space. Anyway, I thought MY Sprite had a few too many gauges. this one must be a driver's ed Spridget ;) http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/?action=view¤t=drive rsed.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 06:30:11 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:30:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers Message-ID: <180684.27349.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Can anyone help Curt out on his Bugeye rad hose question. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Curt/Na> wrote: From: Curt/Nancy Arndt Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Help To: "Healey List" Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 2:33 AM Hi All, I know this is the wrong list, but I'm currently not on the Spridget list so I'll have to ask here. I've developed a pinhole leak in my top radiator hose and since we have a Bugeye get together tomorrow afternoon, there's no time to order a new on from Moss. Does anyone know if any of the auto parts suppliers sell a small enough hose, say for a Japanese import, that will work on the Bugeye, with and original 948 engine setup? Of course I know that I'll probably have to cut it down to size, but the correct diameter and curve in the elbow is basically all I need. I'll most like take the hose down and see if I can find a match , but was hoping someone on the list had some ideas. Cheers, Curt '60 AN5 :{) Down for a hose _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Mar 5 06:41:35 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 08:41:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <891D3D749E0C4AB8BE2DDEF447B4B8BB@RickPC> Here's my list in the order purchased. Kinda interesting to look at the progression from hot rods to old man cars as I've aged. :-) Wish I still had a bunch of those cars. Rick 1955 Chevy Belair 1956 VW 1961 VW 1957 Chevy 210 1957 Chevy Belair Hardtop 1933 Ford 1939 Pontiac Business Coupe 1959 Sprite (still have this one) 1959 Sprite 1956 Chevy 2 dr Belair hardtop 1948 Dodge 1/2 ton pickup (with transplanted hemi) 1960 VW 1949 Chevy Sedan Delivery 1965 Jeep CJ-5 1975 Fiat X1/9 (my only new car purchase) 1968 VW w/Auto Stick Shift 1969 Ford pickup 1976 Buick Regal 1975 Chevy Luv 1976 Chevy Luv 1973 Mustang Mach 1 1985 Buick Park Avenue 1985 Pontiac Fiero SE6 1993 Buick Park Avenue 1990 Cadillac Allante (still have) 1962 MG Midget 1961 Sprite (still have) 1992 Buick Park Avenue Ultra 1999 Chevy Suburban (my daily driver) 2005 Buick LeSabre (wife's car) From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 07:06:35 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 06:06:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: <928904.81706.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Have you test friend any other foreign models? Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Mar 5 07:39:03 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 09:39:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <95200CC9EB974F48839BAB1120EF01B3@user8634b3d69b> References: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <95200CC9EB974F48839BAB1120EF01B3@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <36AF9F9BC4C5418EA12B2BDE0EC2D876@Home> > I've had to deal with the same situation with both wife and youngest > daughter and their love of spiders! I seems that young girls are taught that they should be afraid of spiders (and get a big strong man to save them). My wife was, so we took care that our girls were not taught that, and they have no special response to spiders. For the same reason, they also don't mind picking up crawly/wormy things on the beach. So grandpas, tell your kids not to perpetuate the problem. Michael Rowe A grandpa for three weeks NO PINK for the grand daughter From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Mar 5 08:07:41 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:07:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <4D71C6F5.9010407@tx.rr.com> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC><201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> <-7631382002101498758@unknownmsgid> <4D71C6F5.9010407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: I betcha that the current IRS could be re-tasked to do that job until integration of all software... ;-) Lester On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:15 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > I'm not sure why you exempted food, but that's a separate discussion. > > I've heard about "flat rate tax" and "sales tax" before. It seems that sales tax might be more fair to all different income levels. I've been trying to figure out how this could be applied to higher income levels without abuses. I think some high income earners get around taxes by having their companies buy things for them, but if there are taxes when a company buys something as well as when an individual buys them, then the taxes get charged either way. > > The hard part with this system will be the collection of taxes. How can you be sure that everyone that sells something pays taxes on it. For instance now we have a company that sells a product to a distributor, that sells it to a retailer, that sells it to the consumer. The product goes through lots of different hands but it is the retailer that collects the tax. So the tax collector has to get the tax from the right sales level, and they have to determine how much was sold in order to know how much tax to collect. This would be the hard part. A retailer could say that they sold 10 refrigerators this month, or they could lie and say they only sold 5 refrigerators. It would take a lot of man hours to audit this system to determine if they were correct or not. I don't think we need to increase the size of the IRS anymore than they are now. > > >> BINGO! We have a winner. "What is Income?" Abolish "Income" taxes all together. It is impossible to be fair when you can't define that which you are taxing. INSTEAD... tax cash flow. A consumption tax on everything but food, and at all levels. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 08:16:16 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:16:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <36AF9F9BC4C5418EA12B2BDE0EC2D876@Home> References: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <95200CC9EB974F48839BAB1120EF01B3@user8634b3d69b> <36AF9F9BC4C5418EA12B2BDE0EC2D876@Home> Message-ID: On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > A grandpa for three weeks Congrats!!!!! If I would have known how much fun Grandkids are, I would have had them first ;) Kevin V. From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 5 08:22:35 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <503855815.944242.1299338097258.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1097499853.944323.1299338555774.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I guess I'll play too. Here are most of mine, in the order that I remember them. 52 MGTD 63 AH 3000 58 Ford Custom 300 w/ built 390 64 Chevelle 2 door station wagon 63 Corvair Spyder convertible 69 Chevy pickup 69 Plymouth Belvedere - my old taxi w/ 600,000 miles 70 Chevy Nova 76 AMC Pacer station wagon 65 Ford station wagon 64 Chevelle 4 door station wagon 63 Rambler American 68 Rambler Ambassador station wagon 78 Datsun 810 station wagon 64 Dodge Royal Monaco 64 Plymouth Belvedere 76 Ford LTD station wagon 49 Dodge pickup w/ Olds 455 62 Studebaker pickup 60 Ford Falcon 68 IH pickup AMC Hornet 73 MG Midget 86 Chrysler Le Baron 86 Jeep Comanche flatbed pickup 87 Jeep Cherokee 61 Morris Minor Currently own 72 MG Midget 89 Jeep Cherokee 87 F-350 crewcab 88 Chrysler Le Baron convertible 87 Jeep Comanche pickup From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 08:29:23 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:29:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers In-Reply-To: <180684.27349.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <180684.27349.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Back in the "Olden" days a temporary fix was to wrap the hose with hockey tape. Should get you to the Bugeye gathering.... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:30 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > Can anyone help Curt out on his Bugeye rad hose question. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Curt/Na> wrote: > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Help > To: "Healey List" > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 2:33 AM > > Hi All, > > I know this is the wrong list, but I'm currently not on the Spridget list > so > I'll have to ask here. I've developed a pinhole leak in my top radiator > hose and since we have a Bugeye get together tomorrow afternoon, there's no > time to order a new on from Moss. Does anyone know if any of the auto > parts > suppliers sell a small enough hose, say for a Japanese import, that will > work on the Bugeye, with and original 948 engine setup? Of course I know > that I'll probably have to cut it down to size, but the correct diameter > and curve in the elbow is basically all I need. I'll most like take the > hose down and see if I can find a match , but was hoping someone on the > list > had some ideas. > > Cheers, > > Curt > '60 AN5 :{) Down for a hose > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 08:30:36 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 07:30:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Nigel Smuckatelli's Photostream Message-ID: <42378.79418.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Came across this site this morning. Plenty of interesting pictures and videos of our kind of cars: http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/ Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 5 08:43:39 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <335560073.1696490.1299339819122.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> As a grandpa and a great-grandpa of many years... Grandchildren are the reward for not killing your own!! Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: If I would have known how much fun Grandkids are, I would have had them first ;) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 08:49:56 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:49:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: References: <1028509026.935961.1299271102359.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <95200CC9EB974F48839BAB1120EF01B3@user8634b3d69b> <36AF9F9BC4C5418EA12B2BDE0EC2D876@Home> Message-ID: Amen!! Spoil 'em rotten and then send them home!! Revenge is sweet!! It's even better now because most of mine are teenagers so I get to watch my own kid's hair turn white for the same reasons that mine did! Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > > > A grandpa for three weeks > > Congrats!!!!! > > If I would have known how much fun Grandkids are, I would have had > them first ;) > > Kevin V. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat Mar 5 08:52:28 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 07:52:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: <28ce01cbdb4d$546ee6b0$0168010a@mail2world.com> Here's my exhaustive list: 1983 Nissan Stanza 5door (bought for $35) 1982 Ford Escort 1982 Toyota Tercel 1989 VW Fox 1996 Chevy Cavalier 1997 Chevy Cavalier 2000 Saturn SW2 1979 MG Midget (First spridget, donated most of it's non-tub parts to my '77) 1977 MG Midget ( donor VIN, still have this car) 1976 MG Midget (donor tub, now on the '77) 1989 Toyota Camry wagon V6 2000 Ford Ranger 4x4 4L (still have this, 170K miles on it) 1975 Chevy Cosworth Vega (still have this) My wife's cars: 1991 Toyota Tercel (recently departed with 260K miles) 1991 BMW 318is (250 K miles on it, still have it, someday I'll get to working on it) 2009 Subaru WRX -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: David Lieb [72spridget at gmail.com] >Sent: 3/4/2011 8:53:22 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age > >Hmm, are we allowed to discuss such things on the guns and politics list? > >1972 Chevelle 307 3-speed >1973 Nova hatchback >1987 Plymouth Duster 2.2 5-speed >1979 Plymouth Horizon 4-speed >1979 Honda Civic CVCC >1995 Escort wagon 5-speed >1996 Ford Windstar (wife's car) >1974 MGB >1974 Midget >1972 Midget >1973 Midget >2002 VW GTi VR6 >1974 Midget >1960 Bugeye > >Still have the last five. >David L >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 08:58:42 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 07:58:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers Message-ID: <573918.87072.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bicycle tire patch and prayer. --- On Sat, 3/5/11, HealeyRick wrote: > From: HealeyRick > Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Cc: cnaarndt at gmail.com > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 7:30 AM > Can anyone help Curt out on his > Bugeye rad hose question. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Curt/Na> wrote: > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Help > To: "Healey List" > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 2:33 AM > > Hi All, > > I know this is the wrong list, but I'm currently not on the > Spridget list so > I'll have to ask here. I've developed a pinhole leak > in my top radiator > hose and since we have a Bugeye get together tomorrow > afternoon, there's no > time to order a new on from Moss. Does anyone know if > any of the auto parts > suppliers sell a small enough hose, say for a Japanese > import, that will > work on the Bugeye, with and original 948 engine > setup? Of course I know > that I'll probably have to cut it down to size, but > the correct diameter > and curve in the elbow is basically all I need. > I'll most like take the > hose down and see if I can find a match , but was hoping > someone on the list > had some ideas. > > Cheers, > > Curt > '60 AN5 :{) Down for a hose > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 09:05:18 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 08:05:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <78CCC16B-AD0D-446D-8014-0A8B806D418F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51958.15775.qm@web161215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I owned two Fist 124 Spiders back in the 70s and never saw a web in either one. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Matt P wrote: From: Matt P Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 2:34 PM Maybe they should send the faulty parts to NASA to examine. I find it hard to believe that a spider web could restrict fuel vapor enough to crack a fuel tank. Matt P On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Lester wrote: > You know that somewhere there is an engineer with his face in his hands > crying.. "Spiders?? Are you kidding me? I spent 8 years of my life designing > that...That system can survive a nuclear blast but spiders???" > > Lester > > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:52 AM, > wrote: > >> In what may well be an automotive industry first, Mazda is recalling 52,000 >> cars because of the potential for a vent line to be clogged by -- you >> guessed it -- spider webs. (Yes, really.) >> >> "A certain type of spider may weave a web in the evaporative canister vent >> line and this may cause a restriction in the line," warns the official >> recall notice from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If a >> spider does weave its tangled web there, it could prevent vapors from >> escaping the fuel tank and "eventually result in a crack, potentially >> leading to fuel leakage and an increased risk of fire." >> >> The recall applies to 2009-2010 model year Mazda6's. Back in October 2009, >> the automaker examined a Mazda6 with a crack in the fuel tank and, lo and >> behold, found a spider web in the vent line. >> >> "Our subsequent investigation revealed that a spider web caused a >> restriction in the canister vent line," Mazda informed NHTSA in a letter >> dated Feb. 25. >> >> Owners of the midsize sedan will need to take their car to a Mazda >> dealership where a special valve designed to "prohibit spider intrusion" >> will be installed. >> >> Mazda says no fires, accidents, or injuries are known to have been caused > by >> this insect-related issue. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Sat Mar 5 09:15:31 2011 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:15:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers In-Reply-To: References: <180684.27349.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01eb01cbdb50$8e2cfa10$aa86ee30$@qwest.net> Curt You might try this. I keep a roll in my emergency kit. http://www.aerostich.com/x-treme-tape.html Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:29 AM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net; cnaarndt at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers Back in the "Olden" days a temporary fix was to wrap the hose with hockey tape. Should get you to the Bugeye gathering.... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:30 AM, HealeyRick wrote: > Can anyone help Curt out on his Bugeye rad hose question. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Curt/Na> wrote: > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Help > To: "Healey List" > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 2:33 AM > > Hi All, > > I know this is the wrong list, but I'm currently not on the Spridget > list so I'll have to ask here. I've developed a pinhole leak in my > top radiator hose and since we have a Bugeye get together tomorrow > afternoon, there's no time to order a new on from Moss. Does anyone > know if any of the auto parts suppliers sell a small enough hose, say > for a Japanese import, that will work on the Bugeye, with and original > 948 engine setup? Of course I know that I'll probably have to cut it > down to size, but the correct diameter and curve in the elbow is > basically all I need. I'll most like take the hose down and see if I > can find a match , but was hoping someone on the list had some ideas. > > Cheers, > > Curt > '60 AN5 :{) Down for a hose > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hgmiller3 at qwest.net From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Mar 5 09:37:27 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 11:37:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <335560073.1696490.1299339819122.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <335560073.1696490.1299339819122.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <9E096322A58A447F9FE9F5E9755CF3E7@Home> > Grandchildren are the reward for not killing your own!! Similarly, my mother always said that teenagers are God's punishment for enjoying sex. Michael Rowe From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Mar 5 09:39:50 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 08:39:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just turned 63, and cancer-free for one year and two days BTW. 1930 Ford Model A 5 window coupe 1958 Chevy DelRay 1955 Dodge Royal Lancer convertible. 1955 Chrysler Windsor Newport Deluxe 1956 Chrysler New Yorker 1950 Plymouth Coupe 1961 Volksjunk Beetle 1963 Renault Caravelle 1961 Ford Country Sedan Wagon 1969 Saab 96 (purchased new) 1953 Ford F-100 panel 1953 Hudson Hornet 1957 Plymouth 1960 Ford Falcon coupe 1963 Ford Falcon wagon 1990 Honda CRX-HF (purchased new) 1962 Sprite 1966 Ford Ranchero Also, a 1946 Harley 45, a 1959 BSA 650, seventeen Vespas, four Lambrettas, and a couple of Fuji Rabbits. From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Mar 5 09:51:48 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 10:51:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers In-Reply-To: <573918.87072.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <573918.87072.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D726A24.4030307@wi.net> Ron's solution PLUS the Handyman's Secret Weapon! Hey, somebody had to say it. Montana Bob On 3/5/2011 9:58 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > Bicycle tire patch and prayer. > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, HealeyRick > wrote: > >> From: HealeyRick >> > Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Cc: > cnaarndt at gmail.com >> Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 7:30 AM >> Can anyone help > Curt out on his >> Bugeye rad hose question. >> >> Rick >> >> >> Follow My Nasty > Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >> --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Curt/Na> > wrote: >> From: Curt/Nancy Arndt >> Subject: [Healeys] > Bugeye Help >> To: "Healey List" >> Date: Saturday, > March 5, 2011, 2:33 AM >> Hi All, >> >> I know this is the wrong list, but > I'm currently not on the >> Spridget list so >> I'll have to ask here. I've > developed a pinhole leak >> in my top radiator >> hose and since we have a > Bugeye get together tomorrow >> afternoon, there's no >> time to order a new on > from Moss. Does anyone know if >> any of the auto parts >> suppliers sell a > small enough hose, say for a Japanese >> import, that will >> work on the > Bugeye, with and original 948 engine >> setup? Of course I know >> that I'll > probably have to cut it down to size, but >> the correct diameter >> and curve > in the elbow is basically all I need. >> I'll most like take the >> hose down > and see if I can find a match , but was hoping >> someone on the list >> had > some ideas. >> Cheers, >> >> Curt >> '60 AN5 :{) Down for a hose >> > _______________________________________________ >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ >> Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 5 09:52:14 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <899513879.945426.1299343796099.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2110554173.945445.1299343934494.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I can remember having a big grey spider as a pet when I was about 5 - 6 years old. How, when, or why I became so afraid of them, I have no idea. I am not afraid of snakes, despite having been bitten by a rattlesnake. I have no problem handling creepy, crawly, slimy things. I garden with a can of bug killer near my hand ready for use. My former neighbors very quickly learned that, when I screamed, they did not need to call 911, but to rush to my assistance carrying a can of Raid. I have cheerfully faced down muggers, been shot at and shot, and am afraid to go nowhere other than my own attic or basement. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2011 8:39:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) > I've had to deal with the same situation with both wife and youngest > daughter and their love of spiders! I seems that young girls are taught that they should be afraid of spiders (and get a big strong man to save them). My wife was, so we took care that our girls were not taught that, and they have no special response to spiders. For the same reason, they also don't mind picking up crawly/wormy things on the beach. So grandpas, tell your kids not to perpetuate the problem. Michael Rowe A grandpa for three weeks NO PINK for the grand daughter Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 5 10:01:45 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 11:01:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taxes In-Reply-To: <4D71C6F5.9010407@tx.rr.com> References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC><201103032349.p23NnKEG001110@mail.usimperio.com> <-7631382002101498758@unknownmsgid> <4D71C6F5.9010407@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4D726C79.2040305@justbrits.com> << A retailer could say that they sold 10 refrigerators this month, or they could lie and say they only sold 5 refrigerators. >> And you WILL get caught [today I can] LOL !! Read on !! *<*RANT*>* << It would take a lot of man hours to audit this system to determine if they were correct or not. >> About 10 years ago, State of IL showed up. A Field Auditor & a Senior Field Auditor. Nice [ugly as sin ] ladies. I had submitted an Annual Payment with their Form of $ 23.00 [please round off to nearest whole dollar]. They said it was supposed to be $ 25.00 !!!!! I was NOT even offered the opportunity just to pay the damned two [2] Dollars vs go thru the Field Audit. Trust me, the GAS to get to MY place from THEIR Office was MORE than $ 2.00 !!! OUR [ILLINI folks] friggin Tax Dollars AT WORK [right??]. Now mind you, I had been filing this damned Form and PAYING the correct amount for twelve [12] YEARS - twelve [12] FORMS & twelve [12] checks - ALL UNDER $30.00 as my IN-STATE sales amounted to ZIP compared to NON-in-state . PROVED I just shoulda said NO DICE to IN STATE SALES !! Anyway, SEVENTEEN [17] HOURS later, the S.F.A. says "Mr. Kaler, your Form AS SUBMITTED is correct. Sorry to have taken so much of your time." * *WTF ???** Both had admitted just as they broke for lunch on 1st day that they had ZERO idea of WHY they were at my place doing an Audit !! The S.F.A. even said she had NEVER heard of either IN-OFFICE or ON-SITE audit of less than $2,501.00 Total Tax Due ?!?!?!? **WTF ??** Now FOREMOST, keep in mind that this is The State of Illinois. What in the world will happen if the Feds take over for reason of a new [and perfect solution - LMAO] "Sales Tax Program/Law" ?????? NOTE: And "today" the State of Illinois is BROKE !!! Around MINUS eight [8] BILLION DOLLARS !!! <*/*RANT**> Next question, BJ ??? LOL Ed From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 5 10:07:29 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:07:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99B9DB8C2FAD409EBA9689892787F10C@HomePC> Congrats, BZ! Keep up the good work! LAD -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 10:39 AM To: Ron Soave ; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Just turned 63, and cancer-free for one year and two days BTW. 1930 Ford Model A 5 window coupe 1958 Chevy DelRay 1955 Dodge Royal Lancer convertible. 1955 Chrysler Windsor Newport Deluxe 1956 Chrysler New Yorker 1950 Plymouth Coupe 1961 Volksjunk Beetle 1963 Renault Caravelle 1961 Ford Country Sedan Wagon 1969 Saab 96 (purchased new) 1953 Ford F-100 panel 1953 Hudson Hornet 1957 Plymouth 1960 Ford Falcon coupe 1963 Ford Falcon wagon 1990 Honda CRX-HF (purchased new) 1962 Sprite 1966 Ford Ranchero Also, a 1946 Harley 45, a 1959 BSA 650, seventeen Vespas, four Lambrettas, and a couple of Fuji Rabbits. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 5 11:18:48 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] TV Viewing = GREAT !!! Message-ID: <4D727E88.5030009@justbrits.com> Folk, just watched a very kewl SpeedTV program, "Ticket-to-Ride" featuring a M-B 300SL and a 300SLS !!!!! The latter being the one of tunnel fame !!! Still coming to your Speed Channel near you !! http://www.speedtv.com/programs/ticket-to-ride/ Enjoy !! Ed From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 5 11:32:56 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <894409317.1698561.1299349976056.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Many, many congratulations on both conditions... Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" Just turned 63, and cancer-free for one year and two days BTW. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 12:03:13 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:03:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rust free Sprite MKIII $3500 or BO, Portland area. Message-ID: List I jsut stumbled across this 63 Sprite looks like it could be a nice rust free daily driver. The guy seems to be open to offers too. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2243341979.html Lin From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Mar 5 12:32:56 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:32:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age References: <1097499853.944323.1299338555774.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <7922857DA3BB42E4B032FA53CC950CE3@personal> Can I play? 1940 Ford delux convertable, 59 AB block with all the good stuff. 1954 Ford Sunliner, choped channeled, lowerd, lincoln eng. etc etc 1959 Chev wagon 1960 Bugeye 1956 Ford Mustang GT 1973 Caddy 1959 Bugeye, Stage 3 engine. 1976 Oldsmobile 1980 Caddy 1986 Caddy 1998 Ford Ranger* 1999 Olds Intrigue 1958 Bugeye, Miss Agatha* 2010 Acura* *Present vehicles From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Mar 5 12:35:09 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:35:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers References: <180684.27349.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Duct tape for the win. ----- Original Message ----- From: "HealeyRick" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:30 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers > Can anyone help Curt out on his Bugeye rad hose question. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Curt/Na> wrote: > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Help > To: "Healey List" > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 2:33 AM > > Hi All, > > I know this is the wrong list, but I'm currently not on the Spridget list > so > I'll have to ask here. I've developed a pinhole leak in my top radiator > hose and since we have a Bugeye get together tomorrow afternoon, there's > no > time to order a new on from Moss. Does anyone know if any of the auto > parts > suppliers sell a small enough hose, say for a Japanese import, that will > work on the Bugeye, with and original 948 engine setup? Of course I know > that I'll probably have to cut it down to size, but the correct diameter > and curve in the elbow is basically all I need. I'll most like take the > hose down and see if I can find a match , but was hoping someone on the > list > had some ideas. > > Cheers, > > Curt > '60 AN5 :{) Down for a hose > _______________________________________________ > Healeys at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3483 - Release Date: 03/05/11 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 5 12:55:21 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:55:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <7922857DA3BB42E4B032FA53CC950CE3@personal> References: <1097499853.944323.1299338555774.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <7922857DA3BB42E4B032FA53CC950CE3@personal> Message-ID: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> Jack, I'll bet you wished you had kept that 1956 Mustang GT. That's gotta be worth some money! ED -----Original Message----- From: Jack Laird Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:32 PM To: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Can I play? 1940 Ford delux convertable, 59 AB block with all the good stuff. 1954 Ford Sunliner, choped channeled, lowerd, lincoln eng. etc etc 1959 Chev wagon 1960 Bugeye 1956 Ford Mustang GT 1973 Caddy 1959 Bugeye, Stage 3 engine. 1976 Oldsmobile 1980 Caddy 1986 Caddy 1998 Ford Ranger* 1999 Olds Intrigue 1958 Bugeye, Miss Agatha* 2010 Acura* *Present vehicles Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 13:27:00 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:27:00 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) Message-ID: Congratulations grandpa. Not even a pink sprite? ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) Sent: Mar 5, 2011 9:39 AM > I've had to deal with the same situation with both wife and youngest > daughter and their love of spiders! I seems that young girls are taught that they should be afraid of spiders (and get a big strong man to save them). My wife was, so we took care that our girls were not taught that, and they have no special response to spiders. For the same reason, they also don't mind picking up crawly/wormy things on the beach. So grandpas, tell your kids not to perpetuate the problem. Michael Rowe A grandpa for three weeks NO PINK for the grand daughter _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From pfeilmat at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 13:28:03 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:28:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> References: <1097499853.944323.1299338555774.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <7922857DA3BB42E4B032FA53CC950CE3@personal> <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> Message-ID: I heard those were made completely out of unobtainium! Matt P Sent from my iPod On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:55 AM, "Larry Daniels" wrote: > Jack, I'll bet you wished you had kept that 1956 Mustang GT. That's gotta > be worth some money! > > ED > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Laird > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:32 PM > To: kgb at frontiernet.net > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age > > Can I play? > > 1940 Ford delux convertable, 59 AB block with all the good stuff. > 1954 Ford Sunliner, choped channeled, lowerd, lincoln eng. etc etc > 1959 Chev wagon > 1960 Bugeye > 1956 Ford Mustang GT > 1973 Caddy > 1959 Bugeye, Stage 3 engine. > 1976 Oldsmobile > 1980 Caddy > 1986 Caddy > 1998 Ford Ranger* > 1999 Olds Intrigue > 1958 Bugeye, Miss Agatha* > 2010 Acura* > > *Present vehicles > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 13:33:24 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:33:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Hey You Hosers In-Reply-To: References: <180684.27349.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <-7476598079872582655@unknownmsgid> > Duct tape for the win. Only if he can push the car to the event and back! Duct (sic) tape is NEVER the best answer to a question that does not involve the Red Green Show. David L From jfishbein at snet.net Sat Mar 5 13:38:10 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:38:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Nigel Smuckatelli's Photostream In-Reply-To: <42378.79418.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <42378.79418.qm@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <389528.74561.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Great pics. Thanks jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: HealeyRick To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:30:36 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Nigel Smuckatelli's Photostream Came across this site this morning. Plenty of interesting pictures and videos of our kind of cars: http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/ From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 13:38:51 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:38:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Rust free Sprite MKIII $3500 or BO, Portland area. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <345912.33617.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was looking at "sold" ebay prices yesterday as I prepare to for-real sell my street Bugeye, and I was kind of amazed at the low prices. On the plus side, TCs are becoming affordable, and TDs are at typical used car prices. --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: [Spridgets] Rust free Sprite MKIII $3500 or BO, Portland area. > To: "Spridget list" > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 1:03 PM > List I jsut stumbled across this 63 > Sprite looks like it could be a nice > rust free daily driver. The guy seems to be open to offers > too. > http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2243341979.html > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From kentmclean at comcast.net Sat Mar 5 13:43:49 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:43:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] Bugeye Help - radiator hose In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D72A085.4050303@comcast.net> Curt Arndt wrote: > I know this is the wrong list, but I'm currently not on the Spridget list so > I'll have to ask here. I've developed a pinhole leak in my top radiator > hose and since we have a Bugeye get together tomorrow afternoon, there's no > time to order a new on from Moss. Does anyone know if any of the auto parts > suppliers sell a small enough hose, Yup, wrong (Big Healey) list. I sent this reply to the Spridgets list, in case that group has some info. I To'd Curt, also, in case someone has the answer. He's looking for a FLAPS replacement for the upper radiator hose that will work on the Bugeye, with and original 948 engine setup. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 5 13:49:08 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> Message-ID: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> How about cars you regret selling?? 1960 Jaguar MK IX 1967 Sprite SCCA Solo II Replica 350 GTO 1935 Red Label Bentley - no blower! 1962 Rochdale Olympic 1968 Escort Rally Hindsight is wonderful ... sigh! Dave G KK7SS DN06ig '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 14:15:13 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:15:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Only one... 1946 MG TC.... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > How about cars you regret selling?? > > 1960 Jaguar MK IX > 1967 Sprite SCCA Solo II > Replica 350 GTO > 1935 Red Label Bentley - no blower! > 1962 Rochdale Olympic > 1968 Escort Rally > > Hindsight is wonderful ... sigh! > > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > _______________________________ From george.brokaw at cox.net Sat Mar 5 14:21:36 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:21:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <077b01cbdb7b$4f63ec00$ee2bc400$@brokaw@cox.net> Here is my list as far as I can remember... I may have left out a few Fieros. I was in the hobby and had quite a few over the years. 1. 61 VW Beetle 2. 70 AMC Gremlin (my first new car, Purchased on the first day they sold them... 1 Apr 1970)) 3. 70 Chevy Van 4. 71 AMC Javelin 5. 73 Ford Van 6. 74 Mercury Capri 7. 72 Mercury Capri 8. 80 Ford Courier Pickup 9. 84 Pontiac Fiero 10. 85 Chevy Spectrum (wifes first new car) 11. 86 Toyota Corolla GTS 12. 86 Toyota MR2 13. 91 Honda Prelude 14. 71 VW Karmann Ghia 15. 72 VW Beetle (got it cheap from the dealer I worked at) 16. 92 Mazda Protigi (wife's car) 17. 94 Mazda MX6 18. 85 Pontiac Fiero (engine swap to Quad 4 auto) 19. 86 Pontiac Fiero GT (became a Ferrari 308 and into Kit Car Magazine May 1996) 20. 87 Pontiac Fiero GT 21. 88 Pontiac Fiero base w/factory T-Tops (one of 84) 22. 88 Pontiac Fiero (another engine swap to Quad 4 5/speed) 23. 88 Pontiac Fiero Base (sold for $1 to become a $200x race car - never made it) 24. 88 Pontiac Fiero Formula 25. 88 Pontiac Fiero GT 26. 95 GMC Extended Cab Pickup Truck * 27. 91 Toyota MR2 28. 02 Mazda Protigi (wifes car) 29. 05 Stalker V6 (I built!) 30. 06 Honda Civic 31. 66 AH Sprite * 32. 09 Honda Civic Hybrid (wifes current car) * 33. 10 Honda Insight Hybrid (my DD) * * currently owned Paul From lmacy at mac.com Sat Mar 5 07:02:39 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:02:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net> <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87BB326E-D5AD-42F5-B447-AA00D111A694@mac.com> My turn, but not as long. Learned to drive in a late 1960's Ford station wagon. 1973 Vega Kammback wagon 1967 Pontiac Firebird Convertible (400 cid w/ Hurst 4 on the floor) 196x VW Bug Convertible 1978 Toyota Corrolla SR5 Liftback 1984 Dodge Caravan 1996 Dodge Neon 1980 BMW 308i 1990's Artero (Pontiac Fiero with a fiberglass Ferrari body) 2003 Dodge Dakota 2005 Saturn Ion 2009 MINI Cooper S Clubman 1976 MG Midget (bought at MG dealer in Denver CO) 1978 MG Midget (Since 1983) Now I own the 78 Midget and the MINI. But I surely miss the Firebird and the Dakota. The Firebird, done right, would be worth far more than the rest of the list. I owned 2 for about 20 years between the Toyota (6) and the Caravan (14). (As for Wife's Cars, the 76 Midget was bought as hers, but that didn't last ;-) And the Neon is what she took when she left. Theresa started out with a late model Ford Probe with a big V-6, then a Subaru Outback Sport, then a VW Jetta, now a VW Golf, her and her first husbands list is longer, but why dredge up memories, even tho some of the stories are hilarious). Every car on this list is a manual except the VW Golf. Larry On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:53 PM, David Lieb wrote: > Hmm, are we allowed to discuss such things on the guns and politics list? > > 1972 Chevelle 307 3-speed > 1973 Nova hatchback > 1987 Plymouth Duster 2.2 5-speed > 1979 Plymouth Horizon 4-speed > 1979 Honda Civic CVCC > 1995 Escort wagon 5-speed > 1996 Ford Windstar (wife's car) > 1974 MGB > 1974 Midget > 1972 Midget > 1973 Midget > 2002 VW GTi VR6 > 1974 Midget > 1960 Bugeye > > Still have the last five. > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 15:59:59 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:59:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast MK II Sprite youtube. Message-ID: List, I got this youtube link from the owner Mitch, of this pretty blue MKII with Warwick top I have been talking with him about the restoration of my top we are trying to determine if my very ugly headliner is original. Unfortunately it may be so I'm stuck with it. His photos are in my SpriteSpot pages: http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/Warwick_blue3 youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhGzKk5HpzU&feature=player_embedded Enjoy, Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 16:01:23 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:01:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rust free Sprite MKIII $3500 or BO, Portland area. In-Reply-To: <345912.33617.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <345912.33617.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow Ron sorry to hear that. Hope you get your price : ) Hang in there, Lin On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > I was looking at "sold" ebay prices yesterday as I prepare to for-real sell > my street Bugeye, and I was kind of amazed at the low prices. On the plus > side, TCs are becoming affordable, and TDs are at typical used car prices. > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > From: Linda Grunthaner > > Subject: [Spridgets] Rust free Sprite MKIII $3500 or BO, Portland area. > > To: "Spridget list" > > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 1:03 PM > > List I jsut stumbled across this 63 > > Sprite looks like it could be a nice > > rust free daily driver. The guy seems to be open to offers > > too. > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2243341979.html > > > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 16:20:58 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:20:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <077b01cbdb7b$4f63ec00$ee2bc400$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: <396207.93802.qm@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> 1, 1959 AH Sprite (yep, that started it all) 2, 1962 Volvo 122S 3. 1967 Pontiac Firebird convertible 4. 1970 Fiat 124 Spider 5, 1962 VW convertible 6. 1972 Fist 124 Spider 7. 1959 AH Sprite * 8. 1979 Fiat X1/9 9. 1963 AH 3000 * 10. 1986 SAAB 9000 Turbo 11. 1980 BMW 320i 12. 1995 Camaro Z/28 13. 1982 BMW 323i (euro) 14. 2006 Chrysler 3000C SRT8 * 15. 1996 Chevy Caprice * * Still own Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From mgraziano at austin.rr.com Sat Mar 5 16:38:55 2011 From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (Michael Graziano) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:38:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <022401cbdb8e$7f00a9e0$7d01fda0$@rr.com> Hey guys: Out of lurk mode. My very short list. '84 Fleetwood Brougham '87 300ZX '78 Midget (sold 2 years ago) '95 Probe '01 Subaru Outback '04 Nissan Frontier (for sale) '08 Camry Hybrid '06 Audi Cabriolet I really miss the Caddy and the Midget. The Audi is a blast to drive (a present from my wife last month). Hope you guys are all doing well. Miss the PA rallys. -Mike Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:02:39 -0500 From: Macy Larry Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age To: Spridgets net Message-ID: <87BB326E-D5AD-42F5-B447-AA00D111A694 at mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My turn, but not as long. Learned to drive in a late 1960's Ford station wagon. 1973 Vega Kammback wagon 1967 Pontiac Firebird Convertible (400 cid w/ Hurst 4 on the floor) 196x VW Bug Convertible 1978 Toyota Corrolla SR5 Liftback 1984 Dodge Caravan 1996 Dodge Neon 1980 BMW 308i 1990's Artero (Pontiac Fiero with a fiberglass Ferrari body) 2003 Dodge Dakota 2005 Saturn Ion 2009 MINI Cooper S Clubman 1976 MG Midget (bought at MG dealer in Denver CO) 1978 MG Midget (Since 1983) Now I own the 78 Midget and the MINI. But I surely miss the Firebird and the Dakota. The Firebird, done right, would be worth far more than the rest of the list. I owned 2 for about 20 years between the Toyota (6) and the Caravan (14). (As for Wife's Cars, the 76 Midget was bought as hers, but that didn't last ;-) And the Neon is what she took when she left. Theresa started out with a late model Ford Probe with a big V-6, then a Subaru Outback Sport, then a VW Jetta, now a VW Golf, her and her first husbands list is longer, but why dredge up memories, even tho some of the stories are hilarious). Every car on this list is a manual except the VW Golf. Larry From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 5 16:48:28 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:48:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <87BB326E-D5AD-42F5-B447-AA00D111A694@mac.com> References: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net><264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87BB326E-D5AD-42F5-B447-AA00D111A694@mac.com> Message-ID: <35E11918C49046D199627D7EBDFA2650@HomePC> I don't recall the years on many of these, but in no particular order... Studebaker (joint venture with 2 other knotheads to build a demo derby car -- it succumbed early to too much beer and a BFH) VW Beetle VW Notchback Impala Olds F-85 Coupe Dodge Coronet (yeah, it had a hemi in it -- and a torqueflite; it broke the tires loose when shifting at full throttle; FUN) Pontiac LeMans wagon Pontiac Ventura Sprint (the GTO substitution between 72 and the final Goat in 74) Datsun 240Z (nearly undefeated autocross car for 6 years -- one 2nd place; a great car) F440 SCCA race car (another incredibly good car -- one 2nd place, again) Corvette Stingray convertible (quite warmed over 327-based small block) Porsche 911 Mustang Coupe Mustang Convertible Ford Ranger Ford Econoline van (maintenance vehicle for my apartment buildings -- one seat, many tools) Dodge Dakota Nissan Altima Toyota Camry *Honda Accord Coupe (present DD; boring, but reliable as can be) *Bugeye (under restoration -- a looong and ridiculous story) *MGB (soon to be V8 powered) *Austin A60 Ute (soon to have a mild HP injection -- it's way too slow) * = presently owned cars I've probably forgotten another 10 or so cars. Lots of gaps here. The Dodge Coronet, the 240Z, the Corvette and the Porsche 911 are the only ones I really miss. A few motorcycles including Harleys, Hondas and a Victory. Harleys were junk; Hondas were super reliable and the Victory was decent, but not great in any one aspect. The Victory is the only one I would have back. But I won't have another bike. From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Mar 5 16:58:50 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:58:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <87BB326E-D5AD-42F5-B447-AA00D111A694@mac.com> References: <4D7168FE.8080605@comcast.net> <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87BB326E-D5AD-42F5-B447-AA00D111A694@mac.com> Message-ID: I confess that I really don't understand all these cars. Most of the cars I have owned I drove until they collapsed in a heap in the driveway and I donated them to charities. That is not very many cars, even in my vast span of years. I sold my first car, a Corvair, because I was given a Sprite, and I sold the Sprite because we were getting married and leaving for graduate school. All the rest were trashed. BTW, I sold the Corvair to my boss, and the next day, the engine fell out in the street as he was backing out of his driveway. Michael Rowe From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 5 17:00:58 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:00:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <077b01cbdb7b$4f63ec00$ee2bc400$@brokaw@cox.net> References: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <077b01cbdb7b$4f63ec00$ee2bc400$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: <4D72CEBA.8080400@justbrits.com> Paul, you CAN'T just say........... << 19. 86 Pontiac Fiero GT (became a Ferrari 308 and into Kit Car Magazine May 1996) >> with OUT telling the STORY, preferably WITH Links to some pics !! I LOVED those cars and know where there is a Original Owner V-6 that I am just waiting for the gal to let go of !! Ed PS: And she knows I am waiting !! LOL ! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 17:18:11 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:18:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: anyone collect antique table lamps? Message-ID: I bought something this morning, that I would like some information on. Perhaps someone that collects, or knows someone that collects lamps, could steer me to a site that would be helpful It is a double globe rose glass, with hand painted flowers, table lamp. I have photos for those that can help. Please email me off list. Thank you in advance. Brad (who normally doesn't buy lamps, but this one just looked "special") From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Mar 5 17:18:51 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:18:51 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned Message-ID: <122669.d46f19f.3aa42ceb@aol.com> In order starting in 1970: '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '67 Triumph Spitfire '67 MGB '71 MGB '72 MGB/GT '69 MGC/GT '71 Triumph GT6+ '77 BMW 320i '80 BMW 320i '87 Mazda Rx7 '91 Nissan 300 ZX '98 BMW 318ti '69 Austin Cooper S '66 Austin Cooper S '02 BMW 325ci '66 Austin Cooper S '84 Innocenti Mini Currently own: '68 Austin Mini' '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '06 MINI Cooper S '05 BMW 330ci Cabrio List not include all the soccer mom family grocery getters. Howard Collins From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 5 17:28:52 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:28:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <022401cbdb8e$7f00a9e0$7d01fda0$@rr.com> References: <022401cbdb8e$7f00a9e0$7d01fda0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4D72D544.7010601@justbrits.com> Yo Graz; WELCOME home !!!! << Miss the PA rallys. >> PLEASE say that **LOUDER** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOUD enough for Kevin, Rob & their BETTER halves to **HEAR** !!!!! LOUDER than **THAT** !!!!!! Oh, you say you want to know WHY I say that ??? 'Cause there haveN'T been any since I was there !!! Ed From george.brokaw at cox.net Sat Mar 5 17:38:21 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:38:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <4D72CEBA.8080400@justbrits.com> References: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <077b01cbdb7b$4f63ec00$ee2bc400$@brokaw@cox.net> <4D72CEBA.8080400@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <07d001cbdb96$cbfc2d70$63f48850$@brokaw@cox.net> Okay, you twisted my arm! http://members.cox.net/pgherder/misc.html About 1/2 way down the page. Looks like I messed up the date on the web page of the Kit Car article (I have it hanging in my room and took a look and it IS dated May 1996!) Also the top picture looks different than what is in the article. That is because I was continually modifying the car to look more like a "real" 308. The first picture was taken on the day the new owner (who had more $$ than building skills) was to pick it up. That car is probably one of two I wish I still had (the other was the 72 Capri that is pictured just above it. Click on the pictures for larger ones. The first picture was taken ~ 10 years ago... Yes I will be 60 this year and told the wife DON'T throw me a surprise party! I like my current job! (you will understand if you go to the web page! ;^) At the bottom of the page is a link "Return to Main Page" that will take you to the build pages of my Stalker V6. Paul -----Original Message----- Paul, you CAN'T just say........... << 19. 86 Pontiac Fiero GT (became a Ferrari 308 and into Kit Car Magazine May 1996) >> with OUT telling the STORY, preferably WITH Links to some pics !! I LOVED those cars and know where there is a Original Owner V-6 that I am just waiting for the gal to let go of !! Ed PS: And she knows I am waiting !! LOL ! _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/george.brokaw at cox.net From george.brokaw at cox.net Sat Mar 5 17:42:13 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:42:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <4D72CEBA.8080400@justbrits.com> References: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <077b01cbdb7b$4f63ec00$ee2bc400$@brokaw@cox.net> <4D72CEBA.8080400@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <07d101cbdb97$55d61830$01824890$@brokaw@cox.net> Opps, seems my web pages don't work after 10 years like they did. The return to main page link is bad (at least for me) so use this one to see the Stalker V6 pages: http://members.cox.net/p.herder/ Paul -----Original Message----- Paul, you CAN'T just say........... << 19. 86 Pontiac Fiero GT (became a Ferrari 308 and into Kit Car Magazine May 1996) >> with OUT telling the STORY, preferably WITH Links to some pics !! I LOVED those cars and know where there is a Original Owner V-6 that I am just waiting for the gal to let go of !! Ed PS: And she knows I am waiting !! LOL ! _______________________________________________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Mar 5 17:44:11 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:44:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <2110554173.945445.1299343934494.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <2110554173.945445.1299343934494.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1F03F4EE-09D4-4D0D-A67E-52DE98363EF7@comcast.net> Ok, there is WAAAY to much story missing here... Bitten by a rattlesnake? Faced down muggers? Shot at? Shot?!!! .. and Good Lord what do you keep in your attic and basement!!! ;-) Lester On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:52 AM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > I can remember having a big grey spider as a pet when I was about 5 - 6 years old. How, when, or why I became so afraid of them, I have no idea. I am not afraid of snakes, despite having been bitten by a rattlesnake. I have no problem handling creepy, crawly, slimy things. I garden with a can of bug killer near my hand ready for use. My former neighbors very quickly learned that, when I screamed, they did not need to call 911, but to rush to my assistance carrying a can of Raid. I have cheerfully faced down muggers, been shot at and shot, and am afraid to go nowhere other than my own attic or basement. > > Kate > Sugge From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 17:54:37 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:54:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: That's interesting. The first "car" I had was also a corvair. I was 15 and wanted to learn about cars. My neighbor who had a service station sold me the car so I coulkd take it apart. I had no idea what I was doing but kept on unbolting parts. A year later I gave it back to him with much of the drivetrain in parts. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Sent: Mar 5, 2011 6:58 PM I confess that I really don't understand all these cars. Most of the cars I have owned I drove until they collapsed in a heap in the driveway and I donated them to charities. That is not very many cars, even in my vast span of years. I sold my first car, a Corvair, because I was given a Sprite, and I sold the Sprite because we were getting married and leaving for graduate school. All the rest were trashed. BTW, I sold the Corvair to my boss, and the next day, the engine fell out in the street as he was backing out of his driveway. Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 17:56:53 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:56:53 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: anyone collect antique table lamps? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brad, Did you see if anything like it is for sale on Ebay? - wanted to find out the value of some old porcelain after my father passed away and found quite a few comparable pieces. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:18:11 To: Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] OT: anyone collect antique table lamps? I bought something this morning, that I would like some information on. Perhaps someone that collects, or knows someone that collects lamps, could steer me to a site that would be helpful It is a double globe rose glass, with hand painted flowers, table lamp. I have photos for those that can help. Please email me off list. Thank you in advance. Brad (who normally doesn't buy lamps, but this one just looked "special") _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 5 18:38:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:38:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <1F03F4EE-09D4-4D0D-A67E-52DE98363EF7@comcast.net> References: <2110554173.945445.1299343934494.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1F03F4EE-09D4-4D0D-A67E-52DE98363EF7@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D72E593.30107@justbrits.com> Geesh Lester, one would "think" a Ret. USAF Col could.......... << .. and Good Lord what do you keep in your attic and basement!!! >> figure THAT out !! LMAO 'cause Kate has the World's BEST Spider Farms in those locals !!!! At the stairs that access those places Kate keeps [reserved for] Colt Blue Steel .357 Python Magnums with 1st 2 rounds being shot-loaded rounds [keep the house damage down][REF: *http://tinyurl.com/6gkxjh6 *] and the next 4 rounds be Black Talons [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon ] or Hydra Shoks [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrashok ] !! As you might surmise, Kate has World Champion Class SPIDERS !!! Ed From lmacy at mac.com Sat Mar 5 18:39:47 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:39:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DFB5974-BAAB-4429-88F1-601EF33947ED@mac.com> I forgetted my 2 motorcycles. An early 80s Yamaha 250 single and a a 1970's Triumph 750 Bonneville motor in a chopper, spring tail frame. Larry On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Also, a 1946 Harley 45, a 1959 BSA 650, seventeen Vespas, four Lambrettas, > and a couple of Fuji Rabbits. -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 18:55:27 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:55:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Milage vs. Age In-Reply-To: References: <195139055.1668965.1299170875658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1759326818.1669063.1299171170476.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <20110303111997.SM04508@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <50FA30A13DB94DDC8BA91F973B82E610@HomePC> Message-ID: Mike, I have been contemplating ether new, used or lease. Used cars are getting expensive lately. As for the Camper van the VW's are very expensive even with high mileage which would be late 90's and up. What are you looking to spend on either? Lin On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > My daughter needs a new used car, and has posed the following question: > > "wondering if you have any advice > about whether it is a better deal to get a newer year car, or one with > less milage. For example, looking at the Yaris, we can get a 2007 > with 15k miles for about the same price as a 2009 with 45k miles. > Is there a clear advantage to one over the other?" > > Neither of these cars is "old", and I would expect her to drive it until it > costs more to repair it than it is worth (like her current car), so resale > is not an issue. I have a similar question about used camper vans of much > higher age and milage. > > What thoughts? > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 19:00:55 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:00:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <7DFB5974-BAAB-4429-88F1-601EF33947ED@mac.com> References: <7DFB5974-BAAB-4429-88F1-601EF33947ED@mac.com> Message-ID: And I neglected to mention my Raleigh Grand Prix GMC Denali (yes, it is a bicycle) Specialized Stumpjumper Specialized Tricross Sport Schwinn Twinn (highly modified with 12-speed, cantilever brakes, 26" tires, etc) Roland tandem Bilenky Viewpoint semi-recumbent tandem. These are the current ones, I am not going to go into previously-owned bicycles like my 1966 Monarch or the 1959 Schwinn Hornet Deluxe. David L From george.brokaw at cox.net Sat Mar 5 19:09:16 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:09:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <7DFB5974-BAAB-4429-88F1-601EF33947ED@mac.com> References: <7DFB5974-BAAB-4429-88F1-601EF33947ED@mac.com> Message-ID: <07d201cbdba3$7f04e310$7d0ea930$@brokaw@cox.net> I didn't list my motorcycles: 71 Yamaha 175 Enduro 72 Yamaha 175 Enduro 72 Kawasaki 500 H1 Triple 72-74 Kawasaki 750 H2 Triple(s) (Drag raced my "73" and had a BUNCH of these as replacement parts!) 88 Kawasaki 1000 82 Kawasaki GPZ550 10 Kawasaki Versys -----Original Message----- I forgetted my 2 motorcycles. An early 80s Yamaha 250 single and a a 1970's Triumph 750 Bonneville motor in a chopper, spring tail frame. Larry On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Also, a 1946 Harley 45, a 1959 BSA 650, seventeen Vespas, four Lambrettas, > and a couple of Fuji Rabbits. -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 _______________________________________________ From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 5 19:18:14 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 02:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) In-Reply-To: <1F03F4EE-09D4-4D0D-A67E-52DE98363EF7@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1068228681.951931.1299377894122.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" To: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2011 6:44:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spider webs in evaporative canister (Mazda) Ok, there is WAAAY to much story missing here... Bitten by a rattlesnake? I was gathering eggs, and the snake got upset when I stepped on it. Faced down muggers? One of the hazards of driving a taxi on the night shift in Portland. Shot at? I was participating in a raid at a dog fight. Shot?!!! Same dog fight. This one didn't miss. .. and Good Lord what do you keep in your attic and basement!!! ;-) They're large, black, and have eight legs and fangs. Lester On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:52 AM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > I can remember having a big grey spider as a pet when I was about 5 - 6 years old. How, when, or why I became so afraid of them, I have no idea. I am not afraid of snakes, despite having been bitten by a rattlesnake. I have no problem handling creepy, crawly, slimy things. I garden with a can of bug killer near my hand ready for use. My former neighbors very quickly learned that, when I screamed, they did not need to call 911, but to rush to my assistance carrying a can of Raid. I have cheerfully faced down muggers, been shot at and shot, and am afraid to go nowhere other than my own attic or basement. > > Kate > Sugge From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 19:20:13 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:20:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: New Heathens song Message-ID: Something for those of you still at home on Saturday night, to listen to. If you are reading this on Sunday morning, there are worse ways to start the day. Here's your "Medicine Man"..... Gordy Quist, of the Band of Heathens. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhHop1JaLXo -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 19:21:26 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:21:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <7DFB5974-BAAB-4429-88F1-601EF33947ED@mac.com> Message-ID: I passed up a Schwinn Hornet at a yard sale last weekend. It had the horn on it, it was the bronze and black one, not certain of the year. They wanted $150 for it, but with over 30 bikes here, I just don't have room right now... On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:00 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > And I neglected to mention my > Raleigh Grand Prix > GMC Denali (yes, it is a bicycle) > Specialized Stumpjumper > Specialized Tricross Sport > Schwinn Twinn (highly modified with 12-speed, cantilever brakes, 26" tires, > etc) > Roland tandem > Bilenky Viewpoint semi-recumbent tandem. > These are the current ones, I am not going to go into previously-owned > bicycles like my 1966 Monarch or the 1959 Schwinn Hornet Deluxe. > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Mar 5 20:05:58 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:05:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <7DFB5974-BAAB-4429-88F1-601EF33947ED@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D72FA16.60909@comcast.net> On 3/5/2011 9:00 PM, David Lieb wrote: > And I neglected to mention my > Raleigh Grand Prix > GMC Denali (yes, it is a bicycle) > Specialized Stumpjumper > Specialized Tricross Sport > Schwinn Twinn (highly modified with 12-speed, cantilever brakes, 26" tires, etc) > Roland tandem > Bilenky Viewpoint semi-recumbent tandem. > These are the current ones, I am not going to go into previously-owned > bicycles like my 1966 Monarch or the 1959 Schwinn Hornet Deluxe. Don't get me started on bicycles, I now have 12 I don't know what to do with. 1923 Elgin 1947 BF Goodrich 1951 BF Goodrich 1954 Schwinn Black Phantom 1951 Columbia Superb 1953 JC Higgins 1962 Murray 1965 Sear 1967 Schwinn Starlett 1968 BF Goodrich Light-n-Bug 1973 Triumph 1973 Schwinn 1976 Ross 1979 Raleigh 1980s Murray and 2 modern chinese junk Schwinns not even good for parts OK, 17 bicycles, 15 are ride-able 3 are unrestored -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lmacy at mac.com Sat Mar 5 20:25:06 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:25:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <6917F858-3CAD-469D-802B-1DFA23FB0F42@mac.com> 1967 Firebird Convertible, 400 CID, Hurst 4 speed shifter. And the Artero On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > How about cars you regret selling?? > > 1960 Jaguar MK IX > 1967 Sprite SCCA Solo II > Replica 350 GTO > 1935 Red Label Bentley - no blower! > 1962 Rochdale Olympic > 1968 Escort Rally > > Hindsight is wonderful ... sigh! > > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 5 20:56:33 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <872213687.952782.1299383452385.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1444359456.952843.1299383793052.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Currently owned bicycles 1976ish Nishiki - Gary's racing bike, looking for a home 1990 Huffy - Gary's idea, thinking I could actually learn how to ride a 10 speed 1962 Denalt 3 speed - my kind of bike, complete with fenders cars I forgot - probably more hidden inside my empty head 1998 Plymouth Neon coupe 1956 Ford Ranch Wagon Cars I wish I still had MGTD - May she rest in peace Big Healey Comanche flatbed Pacer wagon - Yes, there's a story there Corvair Spyder - May she rest in peace From pchast at francomm.com Sat Mar 5 21:12:01 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 23:12:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <6917F858-3CAD-469D-802B-1DFA23FB0F42@mac.com> References: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <6917F858-3CAD-469D-802B-1DFA23FB0F42@mac.com> Message-ID: 1963 Tempest convertible On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:25:06 -0500, Macy Larry wrote: > > 1967 Firebird Convertible, 400 CID, Hurst 4 speed shifter. And the Artero > > > On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > >> How about cars you regret selling?? >> >> 1960 Jaguar MK IX >> 1967 Sprite SCCA Solo II >> Replica 350 GTO >> 1935 Red Label Bentley - no blower! >> 1962 Rochdale Olympic >> 1968 Escort Rally >> >> Hindsight is wonderful ... sigh! >> >> Dave G KK7SS >> DN06ig >> >> '65 Sprite - in process >> '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Secretary > Philadelphia MG Club > > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving > safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, > Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and > screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From bkitterer at me.com Sat Mar 5 21:17:42 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 20:17:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <122669.d46f19f.3aa42ceb@aol.com> References: <122669.d46f19f.3aa42ceb@aol.com> Message-ID: OK, I will play, approximately in order owned: 1940 Plymouth Business Coupe 1941 Plymouth Convertible 1953 Ford Sunliner(?) Convertible 1950 Oldsmobile 88 Club Coupe 1956 Harley Davidson 1934 Ford Sedan Delivery, very modified 1940 Ford five window 1947 Chevy two door sedan 1954 Austin Healey 100 BN1 1960 Austin Healy Sprite, number one @@ 1960 Austin Healy Sprite, number two @@ ## 1955 M-B 220a sedan 1961 Morris Minor Pickup Truck 1969 Volvo 142 @@ 1966 Honda 165 Scrambler @@ 1971 Honda 600 @@ 1973 Ford Club Wagon Van 1978 Volvo 242 GT @@ 1988 Ford Festiva 19?? Honda Passport 2000 Miata Special Edition @@ 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee @@ 1966 Austin Healey Sprite MK III ## 1997 Lazy Daze Motor Home 2003 Rexhall Aerbus Motor Home @@ ## 2007 Honda CRV @@ ## 2010 Lexus HS250h Hybird @@ ## @@ Purchased new ## Still own Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 21:37:16 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:37:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <6917F858-3CAD-469D-802B-1DFA23FB0F42@mac.com> Message-ID: 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible..... On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Pete Chast wrote: > 1963 Tempest convertible > > On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:25:06 -0500, Macy Larry wrote: > > >> 1967 Firebird Convertible, 400 CID, Hurst 4 speed shifter. And the Artero >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: >> >> How about cars you regret selling?? >>> >>> 1960 Jaguar MK IX >>> 1967 Sprite SCCA Solo II >>> Replica 350 GTO >>> 1935 Red Label Bentley - no blower! >>> 1962 Rochdale Olympic >>> 1968 Escort Rally >>> >>> Hindsight is wonderful ... sigh! >>> >>> Dave G KK7SS >>> DN06ig >>> >>> '65 Sprite - in process >>> '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> >>> >>> >> -- >> >> Larry Macy >> 78 Midget >> >> Keep your top down and your chin up. >> >> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >> lmacy at phillymgclub.com >> Secretary >> Philadelphia MG Club >> >> >> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving >> safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, >> Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and >> screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com >> >> > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 5 21:49:41 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:49:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <391378.86797.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Two that I missed - 1973 Ferrari 246GT good driver, $9,000 in 1983 (I could have cashed in my student loan) 1962 XKE $4,000 in 1984. Bought my MG for $2500 instead, Ron --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Dave KK7SS wrote: > From: Dave KK7SS > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age > To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 2:49 PM > How about cars you regret selling?? > > 1960 Jaguar MK IX > 1967 Sprite SCCA Solo II > Replica 350 GTO > 1935 Red Label Bentley - no blower! > 1962 Rochdale Olympic > 1968 Escort Rally > > Hindsight is wonderful ... sigh! > > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 5 22:40:39 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 23:40:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <6917F858-3CAD-469D-802B-1DFA23FB0F42@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D731E57.2090002@justbrits.com> << 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible..... >> If you'd get yer LAZY, NON-car body to WORK you would not only STILL have it but you would be DRIVING it, Brad !!!! LMAO [at my observation and NOT your lack or WORKING on it] You know, NO "lamp = I don't know WHAT I bought + HOURS", "WHAT was the OBSCENE number of bikes did you say + HOURS", I won't go on !!!!! From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 5 23:26:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. Message-ID: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Sorry about the LBC content... Not! References: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <27D7A1D6-B5CA-47C8-855C-725F5FE43A13@me.com> Pick the tires that you think will work best for you then take it to a speedo shop and have the speedometer corrected. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Sorry about the LBC content... Not! > The Morris Minor 1000 has had the 4.55 rear end replaced with a 3.9. > It also has 185/75x14 tires.... which are a shade too fat for the rim. > > We know that when the speedo indicates 55mph that it's actually travelling at 65mph! > (proved on the highway!) > The tires are out of balance and are getting rather worn. > > So, I'm thinking of putting 155R14's (Firestone from Coker) on. > If my calculationa are correct, this should at least bring it down to 60mph at an indicated 55mph. > > Comments solicited... > > And, No, I don't want to put a 4.22 in !! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From grday at btinternet.com Sun Mar 6 03:09:23 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:09:23 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] O.T. Big British car References: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <01EDDB314EDF49C79674C2F8AF09168E@user8634b3d69b> Just though the following link may amuse.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12631733 I just loved the bit about the feeding the piston engine a supersonic airboost that would 'very powerful for an extreamly short period of time.' Guy R Day From grday at btinternet.com Sun Mar 6 03:36:58 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:36:58 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. References: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <65F3D34F5CC84E53908EF7A824876FA8@user8634b3d69b> I don't have the correct dimensional data for the tyre sizes you mention but according to what I do have it would bring it down to 62mpg (ish) (61.8mph) when indicating 55. If you want the shade tree way of speedo indication cut a circle of paper the diameter of the speedo with a further hole in the middle to look at the odometer and speedo needle then write the revised speeds on that. Stick it on the face of the speedo and it will be just as accurate! If you are handy with a computer you can do a tidy version that even shows 1mph graduations and use a thin paper that may show the dash light through without the original numbers showing. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:26 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. > Sorry about the LBC content... Not! > The Morris Minor 1000 has had the 4.55 rear end replaced with a 3.9. > It also has 185/75x14 tires.... which are a shade too fat for the rim. > > We know that when the speedo indicates 55mph that it's actually travelling > at 65mph! > (proved on the highway!) > The tires are out of balance and are getting rather worn. > > So, I'm thinking of putting 155R14's (Firestone from Coker) on. > If my calculationa are correct, this should at least bring it down to > 60mph at an indicated 55mph. > > Comments solicited... > > And, No, I don't want to put a 4.22 in !! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From fastvee at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 06:25:41 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:25:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <7922857DA3BB42E4B032FA53CC950CE3@personal> Message-ID: <862777.81232.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jack, Do you have any pics of your Sunliner on-line? I'd like to see a nice custom. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Jack Laird wrote: Can I play? 1940 Ford delux convertable, 59 AB block with all the good stuff. 1954 Ford Sunliner, choped channeled, lowerd, lincoln eng. etc etc 1959 Chev wagon 1960 Bugeye 1956 Ford Mustang GT 1973 Caddy 1959 Bugeye, Stage 3 engine. 1976 Oldsmobile 1980 Caddy 1986 Caddy 1998 Ford Ranger* 1999 Olds Intrigue 1958 Bugeye, Miss Agatha* 2010 Acura* *Present vehicles From fastvee at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 06:32:04 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:32:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <391378.86797.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <183209.98734.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You forgot a Ferrari??? And an XKE? I might forget a Beetle or two, but never a Ferrari. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Ron Soave wrote: Two that I missed - 1973 Ferrari 246GT good driver, $9,000 in 1983 (I could have cashed in my student loan) 1962 XKE $4,000 in 1984. Bought my MG for $2500 instead, From fastvee at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 06:45:42 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:45:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <35E11918C49046D199627D7EBDFA2650@HomePC> Message-ID: <108319.77352.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Larry, It may have been fun in the cockpit, but to the rest of us it looked like the scariest, most ill-handling car ever. I had to race with them at tracks like Nelson Ledges in Ohio, the fastest and bumpiest track in the northeast division, and when they hit a bump could jump two car widths sideways while you were passing them. In the rain it was even worse! John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Larry Daniels wrote: F440 SCCA race car (another incredibly good car -- one 2nd place, again) From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 07:02:04 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:02:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: <389980.99237.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I forgot to buy it. I would never forget owning it. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From conen at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 6 08:18:58 2011 From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:18:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs age (bicycles) Message-ID: <308796.5799.qm@web180202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> David Lieb; Your Raleigh needs my Record Ace for company. ;-) Ed in NC From george.brokaw at cox.net Sun Mar 6 09:00:13 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:00:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. In-Reply-To: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <088501cbdc17$93f11540$bbd33fc0$@brokaw@cox.net> I went thru the calcs I could find and you will not like the answer for tire size. There isn't one that will work. Assuming: Current tire (185/75x14) has a diameter of 24.93" and goes 60 MPH with a 4.55 FDR. To go the same speed with a 3.9 FDR you would have to have a tire that was 21.5" diameter. The 155R14 are 23.8" in diameter, not small enough. Closest I could find on the Coker tire store was "Coker Verdestein Spint, 145-13, Radial" @ 21.75" which would have your speedometer showing 61 mph @ 60 mph actual. Tires are not the way to get the speedometer to indicate the correct MPH in this case. I would go with one of the other recommendations (i.e. have the speedometer recalculated). Recalculated is better than the change the face of the speedometer to indicate correctly since that will NOT change the odometer, that would still read wrong. There are mechanical speedometer gearing changers out there for the OLD hot rods (I believe they are still available, haven't done the search). Nowadays it is done electrically but those will not work with our mechanical gauges. Paul -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:26 AM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. Sorry about the LBC content... Not! References: <308796.5799.qm@web180202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <-5261664123905927195@unknownmsgid> >>> David Lieb; Your Raleigh needs my Record Ace for company. ;-) Sure enough! Ride it on over and I will give you a lift home. David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Mar 6 10:15:21 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:15:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? Message-ID: http://www.engineeringtv.com/video/Opposed-Piston-Opposed-Cylinder -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Mar 6 10:30:40 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. In-Reply-To: <1682120258.1707917.1299432468300.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <147301771.1707975.1299432640772.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Remembering from waaay back(!)--- when I was in the RAF we used to 'swing the compass' and make up a card showing the needed corrections. Maybe all I need to do is to make up a correction card (following road tests) after I put on the new tires, and stick it on the dash. !?! maybe.... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Herder" There are mechanical speedometer gearing changers out there for the OLD hot rods (I believe they are still available, haven't done the search). From fastvee at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 10:52:48 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:52:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <678140.7363.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for posting Jim. Would love to see this technology trickle down. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sun, 3/6/11, Jim Johnson wrote: http://www.engineeringtv.com/video/Opposed-Piston-Opposed-Cylinder From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Mar 6 11:44:57 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? In-Reply-To: <1843362802.1708900.1299436697721.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1148465857.1708959.1299437097743.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Depending which way you look at it, this engine is either very wide but short, or it's very short but wide. I was trying to visualize this engine in a conventional front engined car. It would probably go nicely in a rear wheel drive application - engine would be transverse just in front or behind the front wheels, making for a short, mini/micro-style, car. But for front wheel drive the engine would probably fitted longitudinally and be a significant component of the cars length - unless you used a right angle drive system. For a 'normal' 2-stroke, primary compression occurs in the crankcase, secondary occurs in the combustion chamber. I wonder how they're getting their compression. I also thought I heard him say it was a diesel application.. couldn't see/hear any reference to plugs.. But what an interesting concept..! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 6 12:35:49 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:35:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <108319.77352.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <108319.77352.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, I heard all about Nelson Ledges and stayed away for that reason. The guy I bought my car from was a pro test driver for Goodyear and even he said he didn't like that track. It sounded like a terrible track -- especially for a 440. I only raced at Road America, Blackhawk, Brainerd, Indianapolis and Grattan. IRP was bad enough. Yep, they are fast and a handful to drive, but that makes them fun -- if you are a masochist! They will sharpen your driving skills! Going through The Kink at Elkhart flat out at north of 125 mph in one of those things will test your cojones. BTW, how did you pass a 440 with a Vee? The 440s are considerably faster. Unless, I suppose, the 440 driver was pretty incompetent or scared. The new ones with the 500 motor are outrunning Formula Fords now. Larry -----Original Message----- From: fastvee Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:45 AM To: Spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Larry, It may have been fun in the cockpit, but to the rest of us it looked like the scariest, most ill-handling car ever. I had to race with them at tracks like Nelson Ledges in Ohio, the fastest and bumpiest track in the northeast division, and when they hit a bump could jump two car widths sideways while you were passing them. In the rain it was even worse! John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Larry Daniels wrote: F440 SCCA race car (another incredibly good car -- one 2nd place, again) Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 6 14:12:55 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:12:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. In-Reply-To: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <0D3F6BECD8AD4F84818590BAE1B6107A@blackbox2> Go here http://www.bgsoflex.com/auto.html And then select "RPM Range Program" on the left pane. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:26 AM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. Sorry about the LBC content... Not! References: <122669.d46f19f.3aa42ceb@aol.com> Message-ID: <0f8801cbdc46$030064d0$09012e70$@rr.com> I'll play too. Here is what I can remember. The list does not include parts cars. Some model years are approximate since I no longer have the titles. The order is probably not correct. I am sure there are some cars that are missing from the list. They just weren't memorable enough to be mentioned. The motorcycle and airplane lists are much smaller. :-) Jim 59 Renault Dauphine 50 Studebaker Champion (suicide doors) 48 Studebaker Champion 60 Bugeye 58 Deutsch Bonnet 60 Fiat Abarth (really fun car) 60 Bugeye 66 NSU Wankel Spyder (starter quit working so I had to coast start it after our wedding ceremony) 59 MGA Twin Cam 60 Ford Falcon (friend borrowed it to elope and the oil pump drive broke) 58 Simca Aronde (came with my wife - gave it to my Dad) 59 MGA 62 Lotus Seven (should have kept it - wish I had it back) 63 VW Crossley Special (homebuilt) 50 Chevrolet pickup (tow vehicle) 60 Pontiac Wagon (tow car) wouldn't back up when hot 60 Ford Fairlane 500 (tow car) burned as much oil as gas and it burned a lot of gas - muffler leaked and almost killed me from CO poisoning when returning from Summit Point) 60 Bugeye (&%$# lying Baptist Preacher ran a stop sign and hit it, then denied running the stop sign - I didn't like Baptist Preachers before and like them less after) 63 MGB 59 MGA * 65 Lotus Cortina (I owned it twice) 65 MGB 62 Mk 2 Sprite 65 Mk 3 Sprite (turned into a race car) 67 Cortina GT 50 Porsche Convertible 1500 67 Sprite Mk 4 (Great reliable car) 72 Chevy II 67 Chevrolet PU (tow car) ex Jim Fitzgerald tow truck 66 Rene Bonnet 72 Elan Plus 2S 72 Saab 99 76 Saab 99 82 Saab 900 76 Volvo Wagon (car from hell) 82 Oldsmobile Diesel 79 Ford Wagon 86 Chevy Custom Van (two transmission failures on 2 vacations within ten miles of the same location) 78 Saab 99 Turbo 81 Saab 900T 85 Saab 900T 83 Saab 900 91 Dodge Caravan 96 Dodge Caravan 86 Saab 900T Conv. * 2001 Dodge Caravan 86 Saab 900 88 Saab 900T * 84 Lotus Esprit * 92 Lotus Elan M100 96 Saab 9000 * 96 Saturn SL2 * 99 Saturn SL2 96 Saab 900 99 Saab 9-5 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero * 2005 Saab 9-5 Aero * 2005 Saab 9-5 Aero * 51 Studebaker Champion * 59 Bugeye * Still lurking in my driveway/garage From bkitterer at me.com Sun Mar 6 14:46:05 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 13:46:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] The Clock is Running Message-ID: Hello Folks, The count down has started, seven more days until we start this years trip. The first leg will be on I-10 from CA to AZ, NM and into TX. We would be delighted to stop and chat with anyone on the way. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Mar 6 14:52:28 2011 From: swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk (G & J Swann-Price) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:52:28 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? In-Reply-To: <1148465857.1708959.1299437097743.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1843362802.1708900.1299436697721.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <1148465857.1708959.1299437097743.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <60644E0390DD46569B7CEB16B415E9C7@TINY2> Remember this is a turbocharged diesel, so cylinder filling is done by the turbo rather than crankcase compression. In the UK Commer trucks in the 50s and early 60s were powered by a 2 stroke diesel fed by a roots type blower. They had a very characteristic exhaust note! Geri. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: 06 March 2011 18:45 To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? Depending which way you look at it, this engine is either very wide but short, or it's very short but wide. I was trying to visualize this engine in a conventional front engined car. It would probably go nicely in a rear wheel drive application - engine would be transverse just in front or behind the front wheels, making for a short, mini/micro-style, car. But for front wheel drive the engine would probably fitted longitudinally and be a significant component of the cars length - unless you used a right angle drive system. For a 'normal' 2-stroke, primary compression occurs in the crankcase, secondary occurs in the combustion chamber. I wonder how they're getting their compression. I also thought I heard him say it was a diesel application.. couldn't see/hear any reference to plugs.. But what an interesting concept..! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/swann-price at blueyonder.co.uk From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 15:41:46 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:41:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? Message-ID: <999716.1024.qm@web46402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> As I understand it, most U.S. buses in the 50's and 60's were powered by GM two stroke diesels. Skip J From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun Mar 6 15:54:44 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:54:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <891D3D749E0C4AB8BE2DDEF447B4B8BB@RickPC> References: <264898.84562.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <891D3D749E0C4AB8BE2DDEF447B4B8BB@RickPC> Message-ID: <4D7410B4.8060409@tx.rr.com> My list: Bicycles: Schwinn 10-speed Peugeot 12-speed Specialized Rockhopper Tesch 101 14-speed Tesch 101 14-speed Trek crossover Cars: 1966 Dodge Charger 383 1929 Ford A-model 283 3-speed 1966 Corvette 427 4-speed 1957 Chevrolet 350 4-speed 1972 Corvette 350 4-speed 1973 Corvette 350 1968 Corvette 427 1975 Corvette 350 4-speed 1973 Chev. pickup 454 1978 Chev. Camaro 350 1973 Datsun pickup 1600 3-speed 1979 VW Scirocco 4-speed 1982 Chev. S10 pickup 2.8L 4-speed 1980 Chev. Citation 2.5L 4-speed 1983 Chev. Citation X11 2.8L 4-speed 1985 VW Jetta GLI 5(?)-speed 1989 Chev. Astro Van 4.3L 1990 Ford Taurus SHO 3.0L 5-speed 1994 Mercury Cougar 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7L 4WD 1997 Ford Taurus SHO 3.4L 1998 Ford Taurus SHO 3.4L 2007 Cadillac CTS-V 6.0L 6-speed Boats, airplanes, horses, motorcycles: none From stargazer1 at cox.net Sun Mar 6 16:19:15 2011 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:19:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D741673.9020105@cox.net> On 3/6/2011 9:15 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > http://www.engineeringtv.com/video/Opposed-Piston-Opposed-Cylinder > > This isn't completely OT. It's similar to the engine used in the British Centurion tank. Cheers, Dave Ambrose From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 16:53:12 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. In-Reply-To: <147301771.1707975.1299432640772.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <686331.60260.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 3/6/11, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Maybe all I need to do is to make up a correction card > (following road tests) after I put on the new tires, and > stick it on the dash. !?! maybe.... Dave, If you or a friend have a smart phone, there are many applications for speedometer and g-meters. You can calibrate with that, or just discretely mount it somewhere with velcro or a suction cup and cradle. They are extremely accurate. There are even apps that communicate with your modern car's OBDII system via bluetooth. They will show you all your car's vitals real-time. Cars are in many ways getting easier to maintain. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 16:59:04 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:59:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <0f8801cbdc46$030064d0$09012e70$@rr.com> Message-ID: <939742.51366.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 3/6/11, Jim Seippel wrote: > 86 Saab 900T Conv. > 86 Saab 900 > 88 Saab 900T > 96 Saab 9000 > 96 Saab 900 > 99 Saab 9-5 > 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero > 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero > * 2005 Saab 9-5 Aero > * 2005 Saab 9-5 Aero > * 59 Bugeye Looks like a Saab story with a happy ending. (couldn't resist) Ron From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 6 17:22:18 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:22:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. In-Reply-To: <147301771.1707975.1299432640772.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <147301771.1707975.1299432640772.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D74253A.3020402@justbrits.com> Let's try "getting REAL" Dave..................... << Maybe all I need to do is... >> buy the tyres you WANT and that FIT. THEN send the speedo to Mo-Ma or any one of a TON of shops that do the work and have it CALIBRATED !!! K.I.S.S. Rule **fits** this situation to a "T" !!!! You have already spent FAR TOO much TIME & EFFORT on an extremely **EASY** "job" !!!!!!!!!!! Geeeeeeeeeesh. From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 6 17:31:07 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:31:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <939742.51366.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <939742.51366.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D74274B.8000303@justbrits.com> << Looks like a Saab story with a happy ending. (couldn't resist) >> Excuse me 'Hopper BUT you ARE treading on RD's territory !!!!! Tsk, tsk !!!! LAD From fastvee at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 18:03:46 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:03:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <888330.39232.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Larry, As long as you have some suspension Nelson is a lot of fun. We would catch the 440's in the corners and they had enough power to beat us down the straights and park it, and screwed up many a good vee race. Only the best 440 drivers stayed ahead of the fast vees, and those drivers weren't a problem for us. Running with 440's at Watkins Glen wasn't much of a problem with all the straights, unless it rained. I'll never forget the sensation of catching up to them driving up through the esses with visibility measured in yards, and identifying them by smell before you could see them. I started road racing in 1975 and enjoyed several years of 30 car car F/V fields before the introduction of the F440's, and I'm happy to have experience the heyday of F/V racing. John --- On Sun, 3/6/11, Larry Daniels wrote: John, I heard all about Nelson Ledges and stayed away for that reason. The guy I bought my car from was a pro test driver for Goodyear and even he said he didn't like that track. It sounded like a terrible track -- especially for a 440. I only raced at Road America, Blackhawk, Brainerd, Indianapolis and Grattan. IRP was bad enough. Yep, they are fast and a handful to drive, but that makes them fun -- if you are a masochist! They will sharpen your driving skills! Going through The Kink at Elkhart flat out at north of 125 mph in one of those things will test your cojones. BTW, how did you pass a 440 with a Vee? The 440s are considerably faster. Unless, I suppose, the 440 driver was pretty incompetent or scared. The new ones with the 500 motor are outrunning Formula Fords now. From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Mar 6 21:41:08 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 04:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? In-Reply-To: <999716.1024.qm@web46402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <990079947.966730.1299472868499.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> One of the more interesting mid century buses was the Fagael Twin Coach, which could be ordered with one or two Chrysler 440s. They would really scoot. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Jackson" To: "spridget" Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2011 4:41:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] OT - A paradigm shift for engines? As I understand it, most U.S. buses in the 50's and 60's were powered by GM two stroke diesels. Skip J Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 6 21:44:04 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:44:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires and indicated speed question. In-Reply-To: <0D3F6BECD8AD4F84818590BAE1B6107A@blackbox2> References: <419384031.1704292.1299392783735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <0D3F6BECD8AD4F84818590BAE1B6107A@blackbox2> Message-ID: <4D746294.9090400@justbrits.com> Dean, whilst not a bad [ lol ] lead, there is even a couple MORE on that site that fit the 'need' !!! 1] Speedometer Gear Calibration [ next up from yours !! ] 2] Best Differential Gear [ next below yours !! ] And a few others that LBCers could use. Has anyone that has been to that site figured out WHO or WHAT seems to own it ??? Or, at least, the chap doing some of the calcs works where !!! Hi-power brains & computers paid for by US !! SEE: http://www.cebaf.gov/ Ed From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Sun Mar 6 22:16:06 2011 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Philip Jones) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:16:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: <000b01cbdc86$c3fdce30$4bf96a90$@comcast.net> So, I want to share mine too . . . a fairly short list compared to you guys. 1968 Honda CR110 1971 Honda CB 750 (Cafe! High school! 6 tickets in 5 months!) 1972 Fiat 128SL (fit four cheerleaders and my locker partner - and me) 1972 Ford Capri (V6!) 197? Yamaha TX500 (bad, bad motorcycle) 1971 MG Midget* 1986 Suzuki GS550ES 1980 Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel (another terrific, albeit slow car) 1968 Datsun Pick-up 1986 Toyota 4WD pickup 1992 Volkswagen GTI# 1988 Toyota 4WD pickup 1990 Toyota 4WD pickup 1990 Volkswagen Westfalia 1972 MG MGB GT* 2010 Nissan Frontier 4WD*# *Still own # Bought new I'm sad that the Fiat was attractively repaired (just before I bought it) from a big shunt that left one front wheel permanently about 2 inches behind the other. I'm sad that the Capri was a rust bucket, because I loved that car. And I'm sad that I sold the GTI to help get a down payment for a house, though it probably wasn't a bad decision. I'm sad that the Westfalia cost me about $4,000/year to keep in good condition, and that my wife hated it. Still the most utilitarian vehicle I've ever owned. But I love my MG's! From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 04:25:22 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:25:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Prototype Q1 exterior and interior photos see mine : ) Message-ID: List, Check out my Bugeye Prototype Q1 exterior and interior photos. Amazing. http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite?page=3 Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 04:33:03 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. Message-ID: This shit really pisses me off. How dare anyone disgrace our soldiers especially the fallen ones and the families who sacrificed it all for OUR freedom. I would like to see these picketers get dropped off in the battle fields ; ) http://www.godvine.com/Christian-Veterans-Protect-the-Funeral-of-a-Fallen-Soldier-278.html Other than doing what these guys are doing I wish there was something else I could do. Lin From montpaul at msn.com Mon Mar 7 07:33:56 2011 From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:33:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Amen > Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:33:03 -0500 > From: grunthaner at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. > > This shit really pisses me off. How dare anyone disgrace our soldiers > especially the fallen ones and the families who sacrificed it all for OUR > freedom. I would like to see these picketers get dropped off in the battle > fields ; ) > > http://www.godvine.com/Christian-Veterans-Protect-the-Funeral-of-a-Fallen-Sol dier-278.html > > Other than doing what these guys are doing I wish there was something else I > could do. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/montpaul at msn.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Mar 7 08:05:42 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E129F8A12F74CD38F7FC707C0B4881E@Home> So there are Christian terrorists, too. Michael Rowe From hardy.john at cox.net Mon Mar 7 09:49:39 2011 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 8:49:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye BBQ - Thanks! Message-ID: <20110307114939.UIA5S.396166.imail@fed1rmwml36> John, Wanted to thank you and family for hosting the event this passed Saturday, I had a great time! It was good to finally put faces to a few of the names that I have seen on the list for so long. Thanks again for your efforts in pulling this together! Cheers, John Hardy P.S. You didn't by chance find a pair of Maui Jim sunglasses that I may have left behind? Possibly sitting on the trunk of your red sedan as I may have placed them there when I was putting on my helmet. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Mar 7 09:56:07 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:56:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <4D74274B.8000303@justbrits.com> References: <939742.51366.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <4D74274B.8000303@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Tread away to your heart's content!!! :) I enjoyed that one. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: shop at justbrits.com > > << Looks like a Saab story with a happy ending. > > (couldn't resist) >> > > Excuse me 'Hopper BUT you ARE treading on RD's territory !!!!! > > Tsk, tsk !!!! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 10:21:45 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:21:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. In-Reply-To: <6E129F8A12F74CD38F7FC707C0B4881E@Home> References: <6E129F8A12F74CD38F7FC707C0B4881E@Home> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > So there are Christian terrorists, too. > I am a veteran and I find what Phelps' followers are doing, however disgusting, an exercise of their freedom of speech. The Supreme Court apparently agrees. I am intimately familiar with the Patriot Guard and will say that for the most part, they are respectful of the rights of Phelps and his cult members to speak their peace. They just see to it that their spoken words are VERY hard to hear and their signs VERY hard to see during the funerals of our fallen comrades. Let us remember that the Westborough baptist church "cult" is just that, a "cult". It's comparison to Christianity is not different than Wahhabism is to Islam. Both are perversions of major religions. Wahhabism, however enjoys a MUCH larger following of people deluded by the extremist dogma of murder. Nature knows no indecencies; man invents them. ~Mark Twain The test of democracy is freedom of criticism. ~David Ben-Gurion -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 10:59:23 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:59:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. In-Reply-To: References: <6E129F8A12F74CD38F7FC707C0B4881E@Home> Message-ID: Jim, Very well said. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:21:45 Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > So there are Christian terrorists, too. > I am a veteran and I find what Phelps' followers are doing, however disgusting, an exercise of their freedom of speech. The Supreme Court apparently agrees. I am intimately familiar with the Patriot Guard and will say that for the most part, they are respectful of the rights of Phelps and his cult members to speak their peace. They just see to it that their spoken words are VERY hard to hear and their signs VERY hard to see during the funerals of our fallen comrades. Let us remember that the Westborough baptist church "cult" is just that, a "cult". It's comparison to Christianity is not different than Wahhabism is to Islam. Both are perversions of major religions. Wahhabism, however enjoys a MUCH larger following of people deluded by the extremist dogma of murder. Nature knows no indecencies; man invents them. ~Mark Twain The test of democracy is freedom of criticism. ~David Ben-Gurion -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 7 11:21:06 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1190940682.1722901.1299522066658.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Jim, Bravo ! ... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" I am intimately familiar with the Patriot Guard and will say that for the most part, they are respectful of the rights of Phelps and his cult members to speak their peace. They just see to it that their spoken words are VERY hard to hear and their signs VERY hard to see during the funerals of our fallen comrades. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 11:38:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:38:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but sure ticks me off. In-Reply-To: <6E129F8A12F74CD38F7FC707C0B4881E@Home> References: <6E129F8A12F74CD38F7FC707C0B4881E@Home> Message-ID: Christians are people. People are imperfect. Timothy McVeigh was raised Catholic (Catholic does not equal Christian). However, the Bible does not condone murder. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > So there are Christian terrorists, too. > > Michael Rowe From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Mar 7 11:38:53 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: WORLD'S RAREST CAR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <962168327.974941.1299523133893.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image004.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image005.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image006.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image007.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image008.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image009.jpg] From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Mar 7 12:06:33 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - What was this? Message-ID: What kind of car was this and how does this happen at 60kph? ( Well, that would be the speed limit there. ) http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2011/03/07/ottawa-colonel-by-fatal .html We had a lot of rain on Saturday and there was some flooding on the roads. Temperatures went down below freezing in the evening. I was out driving a bit around 11pm. Robert From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 14:11:03 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:11:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The secret to Frank's beautiful restorations! Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5WGLWNllA -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. From yoonit at yahoo.com Mon Mar 7 15:15:23 2011 From: yoonit at yahoo.com (M F) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:15:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned Message-ID: <379693.12972.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As usual, a bit late with this.... But couldn't resist seeing how many I could remember. This is most of them, minus a few parts cars, I think...... '62 Buick LeSabre (1st car) '57 Chevy panel truck '57 Chevy pickup '51 Chevy sedan '74 Chevy Chevelle(?) '72 Ford Galaxy '67 Ford Fairlane '68 Ford Falcon? '65 Vw beetle '67 VW fastback '68 VW beetle '66 VW bus '67 Volvo 122 '64 Volvo 544 '62 Volvo 122 '82? BMW 528e '72 BMW 2002 '72 Fiat 122? '71? fiat 128 '68 Fiat 850 Spider '68? Opel wagon '68 Mercedes 250s '67 Mercedes 190 '81? Mercedes 240d '63 Olds '69? Chrysler '85 Mazda 626 '88 Honda Civic '97 Honda Civic (current) '91 Acura Integra '63 Sprite (current) '68 MGB-GT '71 MGB-GT '66? MGB '61 TR3 '61 Peugeot 404 '70 Alfa Romeo GTV '64 Dodge Dart conv. '65? Ford Van '65 Buick Wildcat '68? Renault R16 -michael in WI From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Mar 7 15:40:43 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:40:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions Message-ID: I will be driving an unfamiliar motor home from Seattle to NY in a month or maybe a little sooner. I definitely do not want to encounter snowy/icy roads. How far south do I have to go to find clear roads late in March? Will Grants Pass be clear? Can I make it on Route 84 to 80 across, or is that too far north? Will the Chicago area be clear then? Alternatively, when should I go to be sure of clear roads on Route 80? Thanks, Michael Rowe 02D170P From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Mar 7 16:03:15 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1514628389.980333.1299538995662.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> To be absolutely certain of clear roads in March, you might consider going via Panama. Should you decide to travel via 84 & 80, you might consider hanging a right at Mt. Home, ID, and reaching 80 at Elko. I'll take you out to dinner. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget list" , roadtrek at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 7, 2011 4:40:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions I will be driving an unfamiliar motor home from Seattle to NY in a month or maybe a little sooner. I definitely do not want to encounter snowy/icy roads. How far south do I have to go to find clear roads late in March? Will Grants Pass be clear? Can I make it on Route 84 to 80 across, or is that too far north? Will the Chicago area be clear then? Alternatively, when should I go to be sure of clear roads on Route 80? Thanks, Michael Rowe 02D170P Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Mar 7 16:05:53 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:05:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69683D0D151E4270BF1208B2C724373F@RickPC> Chicago can have a blizzard in late March or it may be 60 degrees and clear - you never know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget list" ; Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 5:40 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions >I will be driving an unfamiliar motor home from Seattle to NY in a month or >maybe a little sooner. I definitely do not want to encounter snowy/icy >roads. How far south do I have to go to find clear roads late in March? >Will Grants Pass be clear? Can I make it on Route 84 to 80 across, or is >that too far north? Will the Chicago area be clear then? > > Alternatively, when should I go to be sure of clear roads on Route 80? > > Thanks, > Michael Rowe > 02D170P From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon Mar 7 16:07:14 2011 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The secret to Frank's beautiful restorations! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Jim, But we got Obama motors ant the Chevy VOLT. Isn't the Detroit plant similar???????????? j -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:11 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] The secret to Frank's beautiful restorations! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5WGLWNllA -- Cheers!! Jim Then there was the mind reader who moved to Washington, D.C. and couldn't find work. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 16:12:40 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:12:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The secret to Frank's beautiful restorations! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You kidding?? UAW collective bargaining would never allow all those job killing modernizations... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Jim F wrote: > Thanks Jim, But we got Obama motors ant the Chevy VOLT. Isn't the Detroit > plant similar???????????? > j > > -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:11 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] The secret to Frank's beautiful restorations! > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5WGLWNllA From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 16:51:11 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:51:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Table lamp photos Message-ID: Just Ed was kind enough to host my 4 photos of my lamp. If anyone has any interest in seeing them, and could possibly offer up some information about it, please use the following link www.justbrits.com/0305_11/lamp.html ED, thank you VERY MUCH for hosting these!! Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 7 16:51:17 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. Message-ID: <1032616061.1728796.1299541877324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The dipstick in my 948cc goes into a hole in the block and appears (from what I hear) to sit on the bottom of the oil pan. Question 1> Should there be a short tube fitted in that hole? If so, doeas anyone have one to spare? Question 2> How long is the dipstick. I'd like to know if I have the correct one. Oil is sorta important! Thanks -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 16:52:32 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:52:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael, Coming south from Seattle during March ought to be clear, even over the Siskiyou's on I-5. AND... If you come down I-5 through Grants Pass....since that's where I live, let's get together. I think you have my number. If not, let me know. Herb On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I will be driving an unfamiliar motor home from Seattle to NY in a month or > maybe a little sooner. I definitely do not want to encounter snowy/icy > roads. How far south do I have to go to find clear roads late in March? > Will Grants Pass be clear? Can I make it on Route 84 to 80 across, or is > that too far north? Will the Chicago area be clear then? > > Alternatively, when should I go to be sure of clear roads on Route 80? > > Thanks, > Michael Rowe > 02D170P From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Mar 7 17:27:29 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:27:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <1032616061.1728796.1299541877324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: It's supposed to have a really stupid plastic tube to hold the dipstick. That's what those chunks in your oil were. From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 7 17:47:57 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <71416068.1729793.1299545277003.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Oh Dear ... ;-( Just got the car... haven't drained the oil yet. This was Paul A's Minor 1000. Runs good (ask BillM) but needs some work.. Occupational Therapy. ;-)) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" It's supposed to have a really stupid plastic tube to hold the dipstick. That's what those chunks in your oil were. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 7 18:11:05 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:11:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] History In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <787022.40922.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wow! I have never heard of anything remotely like his rifle before. Had no idea anything like that existed back then. Basically a really powerful big-bore version of the daisy BB gun I got when I was 12 (and still own). Thanks for sharing. - David ________________________________ From: WFO Herb To: Spridgeteers Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 10:32:03 PM Subject: [Spridgets] History http://www.network54.com/Forum/451309/thread/1296928404/This+is+just+to+cool+ not+to+spread+around An amazing 'weapon'. A bit of history I missed. -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From daredelvis at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 18:16:40 2011 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:16:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: References: <1032616061.1728796.1299541877324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Not on the 948. On the 948 it is all metal, no plastic around the hole. The dipstick itself like a long semiflat piece of metal doubled over on itself. Mine is about 14 inches long overall and about 5 1/2 inches long beyond the doubled part. It makes a noise very similar to banging on the bottom of the pan when you put it in. Brian On Mar 7, 2011 6:35 PM, "Billy Zoom" wrote: > It's supposed to have a really stupid plastic tube to hold the dipstick. > That's what those chunks in your oil were. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/daredelvis at gmail.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 18:18:32 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:18:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Wooden Spoon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Careful, don't wet yourself laughing.... H http://www.woodenspoonprank.info/ -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 7 18:31:08 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <282133.49033.qm@web39422.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1358091958.1730587.1299547868453.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Gentlemen, Thank you all.. As usual this list is an absolute font of knowledge, Thanks ... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From shop at justbrits.com Mon Mar 7 19:00:00 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:00:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <1358091958.1730587.1299547868453.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1358091958.1730587.1299547868453.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D758DA0.80801@justbrits.com> << As usual this list is an absolute font of knowledge, >> WHAT pray tell Dave, does type face have to do with dip sticks ??? Enquiring minds.................. PPP From hardy.john at cox.net Mon Mar 7 19:32:33 2011 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:32:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <4D758DA0.80801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <20110307213233.OMKHV.1162859.imail@fed1rmwml4101> An abundant source; a fount: i.e She was a font of wisdom and good sense. ---- "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" wrote: > << As usual this list is an absolute font of knowledge, >> > > WHAT pray tell Dave, does type face have to do with dip sticks ??? > > Enquiring minds.................. > > PPP > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hardy.john at cox.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 7 19:34:18 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 02:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <493884903.1731661.1299551466628.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1527708871.1731735.1299551658229.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> As in #4... font (fnt)n. 1. A basin for holding baptismal water in a church. 2. A receptacle for holy water; a stoup. 3. The oil reservoir in an oil-burning lamp. 4. An abundant source; a fount: She was a font of wisdom and good sense. [Middle English, from Old English, from Late Latin fns, font-, from Latin, fountain.]' Must be a Yankee -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" << As usual this list is an absolute font of knowledge, >> WHAT pray tell Dave, does type face have to do with dip sticks ??? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 7 19:58:53 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 20:58:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <888330.39232.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <888330.39232.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, you sound as though you don't have an especially large appreciation for F440s (now F500s). ;-) Trust me, that ran both ways. I do recall Vee drivers complaining about the slower 440s, but my gripe was with the Vees getting in the way because they were so slow. Even the fastest Vees were no match for a decent 440 and by 8 or 9 laps we were running into the back markers and lapping them. The big problem was that they always ran in a train so you had to pass a bunch of them at once or dive back into the middle of the train and pass the rest on the next straight. They may consider that as messing up their race, but if they weren't so damn slow it wouldn't have been a problem. I guess that's the price we pay when they have to combine classes to complete the field. I do have an appreciation for the way the Vees ran, but it didn't mix well at all with the style of driving a 440. Two totally different cars on the same track at the same time. Larry -----Original Message----- From: fastvee Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:03 PM To: Spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Larry, As long as you have some suspension Nelson is a lot of fun. We would catch the 440's in the corners and they had enough power to beat us down the straights and park it, and screwed up many a good vee race. Only the best 440 drivers stayed ahead of the fast vees, and those drivers weren't a problem for us. Running with 440's at Watkins Glen wasn't much of a problem with all the straights, unless it rained. I'll never forget the sensation of catching up to them driving up through the esses with visibility measured in yards, and identifying them by smell before you could see them. I started road racing in 1975 and enjoyed several years of 30 car car F/V fields before the introduction of the F440's, and I'm happy to have experience the heyday of F/V racing. John --- On Sun, 3/6/11, Larry Daniels wrote: John, I heard all about Nelson Ledges and stayed away for that reason. The guy I bought my car from was a pro test driver for Goodyear and even he said he didn't like that track. It sounded like a terrible track -- especially for a 440. I only raced at Road America, Blackhawk, Brainerd, Indianapolis and Grattan. IRP was bad enough. Yep, they are fast and a handful to drive, but that makes them fun -- if you are a masochist! They will sharpen your driving skills! Going through The Kink at Elkhart flat out at north of 125 mph in one of those things will test your cojones. BTW, how did you pass a 440 with a Vee? The 440s are considerably faster. Unless, I suppose, the 440 driver was pretty incompetent or scared. The new ones with the 500 motor are outrunning Formula Fords now. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Mon Mar 7 20:54:45 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:54:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: References: <1032616061.1728796.1299541877324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <008401cbdd44$929bf4c0$b7d3de40$@net> As far as I have determined the 948 didn't have a plastic tube as the oil stick fits pretty snug in the block hole and it rests on the bottom of the pan. The 1275 has a bell mouth plastic tube in it and the dipstick also has a flat washer attached to the dipstick that rests on the top of the plastic tube. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 6:27 PM To: Dave KK7SS; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. It's supposed to have a really stupid plastic tube to hold the dipstick. That's what those chunks in your oil were. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Mar 7 21:11:53 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 20:11:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: <672406.33916.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Guns, politics and now race car insults?? I miss the old days of cats, Zappa and Elizabeth the Witch. Remember boys, the older I get the faster I was. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Mar 7 22:23:36 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 05:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <1678973933.985933.1299561626298.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> My spells are rudimentary compared to Elizabeth's, but I do know a few. Would you care to have someone turned into a toad? If it's anything more complicated than that, you'll have to go to the expert. Kate + six cats Guns, politics and now race car insults?? I miss the old days of cats, Zappa and Elizabeth the Witch. Remember boys, the older I get the faster I was. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon Mar 7 22:46:35 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:46:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D75C2BB.9090003@tx.rr.com> In my house it's Bill + Kate + 6 cats. > My spells are rudimentary compared to Elizabeth's, but I do know a few. Would you care to have someone turned into a toad? If it's anything more complicated than that, you'll have to go to the expert. > > Kate + six cats From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 8 06:52:43 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:52:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update Message-ID: For those of you who don't subscribe to Bring-A-Trailer http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/07/bat-success-story-pastors-bug-eye-on-the- road/ For ED: http://tinyurl.com/4cxa92f Love that thermostat!!! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg From fastvee at yahoo.com Tue Mar 8 07:06:16 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:06:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <602359.79397.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 3/7/11, Larry Daniels wrote: John, you sound as though you don't have an especially large appreciation for F440s (now F500s). ;-) Trust me, that ran both ways. Larry you are very perceptive :>) Yes it went both ways, we had our slugs also. I had a friend, now deceased, who won a national championship in F440, and was never a problem. He was super quick yet respected our races and had a great attitude. So it wasn't the cars, as scary as they were in some hands. Later if it wasn't the 440's it was the spec racers, in both F/V and H/P, and too many incidents with them in my 25 years of driving. With dropping entries they are still grouping this way and it was one of the major factors in my decision to not take my Sprite SCCA racing this time around. John Fogelsville, PA From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 8 07:14:54 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:14:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1678973933.985933.1299561626298.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>, <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Do you use a spell checker? ;) Do you think you could change my 65 Sprite into a Bug? I'm no longer half the man I used to think I was. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > From: kgb at frontiernet.net > > My spells are rudimentary compared to Elizabeth's, but I do know a few. Would you care to have someone turned into a toad? If it's anything more complicated than that, you'll have to go to the expert. > > Kate + six cats > > Guns, politics and now race car insults?? I miss the old days of cats, Zappa and Elizabeth the Witch. > > Remember boys, the older I get the faster I was. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 8 07:19:36 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <4D758DA0.80801@justbrits.com> References: <1358091958.1730587.1299547868453.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <4D758DA0.80801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Everybody is a comedian these days .... :) I'm not sure if this is the answer that you were looking for, ED, but I can tell you that this dipstick uses fonts. ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: shop at justbrits.com > > << As usual this list is an absolute font of knowledge, >> > > WHAT pray tell Dave, does type face have to do with dip sticks ??? > > Enquiring minds.................. From fastvee at yahoo.com Tue Mar 8 07:28:58 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:28:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <74256277919041C79BA30C419BCE69A3@HomePC> Message-ID: <677942.44326.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree with Larry, didn't see any insults. I'm just doing my best to express the frustration experienced. Ron may not have a good appreciation for this frustration, having spent so much time at Road America. Imagine a Lime Rock national race with 30 cars on this 1-1/2 mile track comprised of seven different classes. Now our 948 Sprites should have been the slowest class, yet two of us finished 2nd and 3rd overall. All of the cars who were spoiling our momentum because they had to brake wouldn't be anywhere around us at Road America. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Larry Daniels wrote: Not meant as an insult, Ron, anymore than John was insulting 440s for messing up their races. Vees and 440s are very different cars that always ran at the same time. Each of us was concerned only with our own class, but had to deal with the other cars at the same time. From grday at btinternet.com Tue Mar 8 07:41:24 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:41:24 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. References: <1358091958.1730587.1299547868453.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <4D758DA0.80801@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <697A62C1130A4A9F9D237D63A6250F97@user8634b3d69b> So there I was at the scene of a single vehicle accident where the car had tripped up and rolled at least 900 degrees. When the recovery crew got the car back on its wheels pools of fluids dripped out of the engine compartment and the dipstick fell on to the ground. The driver wanted to drive it home but I wouldn't let him saying, "Look everything's come out of the engine, even the dipstick's fallen out." Straight back came the reply, "No I didn't, I was wearing my seat belt." Now that was a comedian. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. > Everybody is a comedian these days .... :) > > I'm not sure if this is the answer that you were looking for, ED, but I > can > tell you that this dipstick uses fonts. ;) > > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > >> From: shop at justbrits.com >> >> << As usual this list is an absolute font of knowledge, >> >> >> WHAT pray tell Dave, does type face have to do with dip sticks ??? >> >> Enquiring minds.................. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 8 08:13:45 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:13:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: I'm guessing that 'friend' was supposed to be 'driven', but anyhow ... No-one had anything to say about Foreign Models? > From: soavero at yahoo.com > > Have you test friend any other foreign models? > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 8 09:36:01 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:36:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D765AF1.3070809@justbrits.com> << My spells are rudimentary compared to Elizabeth's, >> Aaaaah Kate, BUT at least you were accepted as a Pupil !! << but I do know a few. >> Have you checked in with the NV Coven ?? Is there an Elko Chapter?? They might NOT even "let you remember them" !?! I an fairly certain that there ARE "dues" and IIRC, "E" told me they are quite "dear" ?!? Oooops, just had a thought - does NV require a State License?? They License everything else !!!! << Would you care to have someone turned into a toad? >> As "out of practice" as you are, I would suspect that you would prolly only "get" a Tree Toad ?? Might want to keep that in mind when you accept a "mission" !!! << If it's anything more complicated than that, you'll have to go to the expert. >> Has anybody chatted with her lately ?? Brad?? Graz ?? Kate?? I feel bad about it, but I have not either !! Ed From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 09:55:48 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:55:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <4D765AF1.3070809@justbrits.com> References: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <4D765AF1.3070809@justbrits.com> Message-ID: > Has anybody chatted with her lately ?? Brad?? Graz ?? > Kate?? I feel bad about it, but I have not either !! At least THAT spell seems to have worked for her... From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue Mar 8 10:27:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <420446514.1741252.1299605243630.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> >> Has anybody chatted with her lately ?? Brad?? Graz ?? >> Kate?? I feel bad about it, but I have not either !! > At least THAT spell seems to have worked for her... ROTFL -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid - From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 10:55:00 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:55:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Phelps Message-ID: Agreed Kirk From pfeilmat at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 10:56:52 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:56:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice work. Wish the two I had were that easy. One day I will get another LBC, just not right now. Matt P Sent from my iPod On Mar 8, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > For those of you who don't subscribe to Bring-A-Trailer > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/07/bat-success-story-pastors-bug-eye-on-the- > road/ > > For ED: > > http://tinyurl.com/4cxa92f > > Love that thermostat!!! > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen > )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From stargazer1 at cox.net Tue Mar 8 11:15:22 2011 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:15:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: An article about manufacturing in the US instead of China Message-ID: <4D76723A.9070909@cox.net> I found this article interesting and well-written: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/in-early-2010-somewhere-high.ars/ Cheers, Dave Ambrose From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 8 11:34:11 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:34:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help wanted - off topic In-Reply-To: <20110225161357.46AGF.11465.root@cdptpa-web24-z01> References: , <20110225161357.46AGF.11465.root@cdptpa-web24-z01> Message-ID: Happens in EVERY profession! You get slackers and the people that have a passion for it. It they have the passion and drive, they will get the knowledge. I don't think it's the education system as a whole. Although in this day and age, with all the YouBook and FaceTube, and all the other "instant gratification" society trappings, traditional teaching techniques are't keeping the kids attention. We have to find a way....... Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:13:57 -0500 > From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com The problem we face as a firm is that there are a lot of other firms out there that hire warm bodies and turn out crappy product, but we still have to compete with them. I wish the requirements to get into the profession were harder. It wouldn't matter to the people that are qualified but might keep out some of the unqualified people, and the end result would benefit society as a whole. > > > > Much luck, Amigo. Locally I teach occasional courses in engineering physics > > and calculus.. I'm luck to get 5 students per semester in the community > > college and frequently have to fend off irate parents who think I am making > > to too hard on their babies. I'd say 1 or 2 of these kids a year have the > > drive and knowledge to make it in any form of real engineering! American > > education is badly broken. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 12:27:08 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:27:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Manufacturing Article Message-ID: Great article. . thanks for sharing. . Kirk From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Mar 8 15:22:40 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget off to get respray Message-ID: <1101163355.2329063.1299622960899.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> So thanks to a careless driver in a parking lotB a couple months back she is heading off to the paint shop.B The question is this though...I plan on taking off the bumpers, the light, trim rings, front grill, license palte frame and such but what about the windscreen?B I never took one off.B This one has never been off and I am doing it myself tomorrow. suggestions?B do it or not? ryan From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Mar 8 17:47:03 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:47:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <677942.44326.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <599584.94456.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 3/8/11, fastvee wrote: > momentum because they had to brake wouldn't be anywhere > around us at Road > America. > > John I was kidding. BTW, wait until you go vintage and you're at Blackhawk with P-1800 Volvos in your class. Bring brakes, right WST? Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Mar 8 17:53:59 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:53:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <985906.96423.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's Colin and Cana Comer. Colin is a renowned Cobra guy and won best in show at the KIC last year with something else that I can't remember. Cana had the best maiden name ever, Cana Tinkle. --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Matt P wrote: > From: Matt P > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update > To: "spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 11:56 AM > Nice work. Wish the two I had were > that easy. One day I will get another LBC, > just not right now. > > Matt P > > Sent from my iPod > > On Mar 8, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Robert Duquette > wrote: > > > For those of you who don't subscribe to > Bring-A-Trailer > > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/07/bat-success-story-pastors-bug-eye-on-the- > > road/ > > > > For ED: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4cxa92f > > > > Love that thermostat!!! > > > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen > > )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 8 17:58:40 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:58:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update In-Reply-To: <985906.96423.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <985906.96423.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9800E2125D3F409F84FDD879823B2356@HomePC> You are soooo PC, Ron. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:53 PM To: spridgets ; Matt P Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update That's Colin and Cana Comer. Colin is a renowned Cobra guy and won best in show at the KIC last year with something else that I can't remember. Cana had the best maiden name ever, Cana Tinkle. --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Matt P wrote: > From: Matt P > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update > To: "spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 11:56 AM > Nice work. Wish the two I had were > that easy. One day I will get another LBC, > just not right now. > > Matt P > > Sent from my iPod > > On Mar 8, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Robert Duquette > wrote: > > > For those of you who don't subscribe to > Bring-A-Trailer > > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/07/bat-success-story-pastors-bug-eye-on-the- > > road/ > > > > For ED: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4cxa92f > > > > Love that thermostat!!! > > > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen > > )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 18:09:09 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:09:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - International Space Station & Space Shuttle fly-over Message-ID: Hey ALL, My two grandsons, my wife and I, and daughter-in-law just watched the International Space Station and the Space Shuttle do a simultaneous fly-over. It was a very cool thing to see. They were about a minute apart and traveling from NW to SE on the same orbital track. Took about 2 minutes to watch them from coming into view until they disappeared over the horizon. VERY COOL!!! Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Mar 8 18:21:25 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:21:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC Message-ID: <00e901cbddf8$51d6f160$f584d420$@net> An interesting project dropped ( and I do mean literally dropped) into my lap last week and I have been trying to find out online as to where the motor serial number on the cases is located. Lots of info after you find the number but none as to where it is located on the cases so thought maybe someone on list might have a resourse. It is a 1960's vintage Bultaco flat track race bike. Based on the size of the head I would guess it is a 400 cc model but want to ascertain the exact motor. Scary looking machineto ride as there are no provisions for brakes on the hubs or frame.Youtube videos of them racing are entertaining to say the least. It will go into the upstairs of my shop for a rainy day project but I would like to gather info on it so when I decide to tackle it for a restoration I will have all the peculiars on hand. Motor is free and has awesome compression and it was stored indoors which is a good thing. Very complete!!! Any one on list familiar with Bultaco's?? Dane, are you out there?? Leo From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Mar 8 18:37:06 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:37:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update In-Reply-To: <985906.96423.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <985906.96423.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ee01cbddfa$8e459b40$aad0d1c0$@net> The pastor's car revival follows the "All things are possible with a healthy checkbook for the parts orders" rule and a dose of motivation..:) Got the motivation, now about that healthy checkbook for the parts orders..... Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:54 PM To: spridgets; Matt P Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update That's Colin and Cana Comer. Colin is a renowned Cobra guy and won best in show at the KIC last year with something else that I can't remember. Cana had the best maiden name ever, Cana Tinkle. --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Matt P wrote: > From: Matt P > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update > To: "spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 11:56 AM > Nice work. Wish the two I had were > that easy. One day I will get another LBC, > just not right now. > > Matt P > > Sent from my iPod > > On Mar 8, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Robert Duquette > wrote: > > > For those of you who don't subscribe to > Bring-A-Trailer > > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/07/bat-success-story-pastors-bug-eye-on-the - > > road/ > > > > For ED: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4cxa92f > > > > Love that thermostat!!! > > > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > > 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen > > )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Mar 8 19:11:20 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:11:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: <00e901cbddf8$51d6f160$f584d420$@net> Message-ID: Bultaco is Spanish. From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue Mar 8 19:44:25 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 02:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: <1229910914.1750589.1299638398867.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2018441444.1750663.1299638665766.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I had a Bultaco Trials Bike back in the late 50's, early 60's. SOlid piece of engineering. The number used to be stamped on the crankcase. Starting with an "M". See if this helps.. http://www.bultaco.com/Identify.htm -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> T Any one on list familiar with Bultaco's?? Dane, are you out there?? Leo _______________________________________________ From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 8 20:37:39 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:37:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. References: <1032616061.1728796.1299541877324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <76E638EB3F3346A49C11CCE66FEBFDFA@WOODSTOCK> The dipstick hole is just a hole drilled in the block. The doubled over portion of the dipstick can be spread slightly to make it fit snuggly in the block. There is a flat dimple (for a better description ??) that registers how far the dipstick will go into the pan. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian" To: "Billy Zoom" Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. > Not on the 948. On the 948 it is all metal, no plastic around the hole. > The > dipstick itself like a long semiflat piece of metal doubled over on > itself. > Mine is about 14 inches long overall and about 5 1/2 inches long beyond > the > doubled part. It makes a noise very similar to banging on the bottom of > the > pan when you put it in. > > Brian > On Mar 7, 2011 6:35 PM, "Billy Zoom" wrote: >> It's supposed to have a really stupid plastic tube to hold the dipstick. >> That's what those chunks in your oil were. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/daredelvis at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/homehandy at sbcglobal.net From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Tue Mar 8 20:38:46 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:38:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: References: <00e901cbddf8$51d6f160$f584d420$@net> Message-ID: <010901cbde0b$8ac47b10$a04d7130$@net> DUH.. sorry I had a lapse Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:11 PM To: Leo; 'spridgets_autox.team.net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC Bultaco is Spanish. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Tue Mar 8 20:43:44 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:43:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: <2018441444.1750663.1299638665766.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1229910914.1750589.1299638398867.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <2018441444.1750663.1299638665766.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <010a01cbde0c$30fef460$92fcdd20$@net> Have been there and will be back there as soon as I fing the number on the crankcase . Problem is that I cant locate the number on the crankcase? Do you remember the approx location I should be honing in on? Leo U sed to be stamped on the crankcase. Starting with an "M". See if this helps.. http://www.bultaco.com/Identify.htm -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> T Any one on list familiar with Bultaco's?? Dane, are you out there?? Leo _______________________________________________ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From fastvee at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 09:05:19 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:05:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age Message-ID: <97988.8180.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ron, I knew you were kidding. Just so I don't leave the wrong impression, there were many more good times than bad, but it's amazing what you will put up with sometimes to enjoy your passion. When it stopped being fun I quit. These days I will simply enjoy the driving and being amongst the fine sports cars. Bring on the Volvos. John --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Ron Soave wrote: I was kidding. BTW, wait until you go vintage and you're at Blackhawk with P-1800 Volvos in your class. Bring brakes, right WST? From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 13:50:55 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:50:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update In-Reply-To: <00ee01cbddfa$8e459b40$aad0d1c0$@net> References: <985906.96423.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00ee01cbddfa$8e459b40$aad0d1c0$@net> Message-ID: I like how the boot is still that redish color as we have talked about in the pase. This is the first time I ever took notice. I have forgotten the material was it an oxide? Ether way I have decited to make sure I save all the photos (yes 96 of them so that I know what to do on my next project) I will call it research for now ; ) BTW did they really pay 9K for it? Where are the new owners Colin and Cana Comer? boot shot: *http://tinyurl.com/45s82ys Lin * On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > The pastor's car revival follows the "All things are possible with a > healthy > checkbook for the parts orders" rule and a dose of motivation..:) Got the > motivation, now about that healthy checkbook for the parts orders..... > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:54 PM > To: spridgets; Matt P > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update > > That's Colin and Cana Comer. Colin is a renowned Cobra guy and won best in > show at the KIC last year with something else that I can't remember. Cana > had > the best maiden name ever, Cana Tinkle. > > --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Matt P > wrote: > > > From: Matt P > > Subject: > Re: [Spridgets] The BaT Pastor's Bugeye - update > > To: "spridgets" > > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 11:56 AM > > Nice > work. Wish the two I had were > > that easy. One day I will get another LBC, > > > just not right now. > > > > Matt P > > > > Sent from my iPod > > > > On Mar 8, 2011, at > 5:52 AM, Robert Duquette > > wrote: > > > > > For > those of you who don't subscribe to > > Bring-A-Trailer > > > > > > > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/07/bat-success-story-pastors-bug-eye-on-the > - > > > road/ > > > > > > For ED: > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4cxa92f > > > > > > Love that > thermostat!!! > > > > > > Robert Duquette > > > Ottawa ON Canada > > > 1965 RHD BRG > Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) > > > 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) > > > > 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen > > > > )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 14:18:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: <00e901cbddf8$51d6f160$f584d420$@net> References: <00e901cbddf8$51d6f160$f584d420$@net> Message-ID: Leo, Cool find post your photo album. I remember those bikes but now-a-days I only ride German. FYI I hope you have the title in hand, I have learned many years ago not to invest my time unless the title is in my name. I gave many a bike away because of title issues as well as some vin numbers "missing". If you don't have the title and you do find the vin # invest in one of those title companies before you invest your time & money. If not It will look cool mounted on a shelf in the garage. Like this site too: http://www.bultaco.com Lin On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > An interesting project dropped ( and I do mean literally dropped) into my > lap last week and I have been trying to find out online as to where the > motor serial number on the cases is located. Lots of info after you find > the number but none as to where it is located on the cases so thought maybe > someone on list might have a resourse. It is a 1960's vintage Bultaco flat > track race bike. Based on the size of the head I would guess it is a 400 > cc > model but want to ascertain the exact motor. Scary looking machineto ride > as there are no provisions for brakes on the hubs or frame.Youtube videos > of > them racing are entertaining to say the least. It will go into the > upstairs > of my shop for a rainy day project but I would like to gather info on it > so > when I decide to tackle it for a restoration I will have all the peculiars > on hand. Motor is free and has awesome compression and it was stored > indoors which is a good thing. Very complete!!! Any one on list familiar > with Bultaco's?? Dane, are you out there?? > > > > Leo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 14:25:23 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:25:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget off to get respray In-Reply-To: <1101163355.2329063.1299622960899.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1101163355.2329063.1299622960899.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Sorry to hear this Ryan, BTW somehow your emails have a bunch of letter "B's" possibly for a space or something. At first you ware politely saying the "B" word regarding the careless driver. Lin On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:22 PM, wrote: > So thanks to a careless driver in a parking lotB a couple months back she > is > heading off to the paint shop.B The question is this though...I plan on > taking off the bumpers, the light, trim rings, front grill, license palte > frame and such but what about the windscreen?B I never took one off.B > This > one has never been off and I am doing it myself tomorrow. suggestions?B do > it > or not? > > ryan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 14:22:53 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:22:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <71416068.1729793.1299545277003.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <71416068.1729793.1299545277003.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Nice to hear you have Paul's Minor, take good care of it ; ) Linda On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Oh Dear ... ;-( > Just got the car... haven't drained the oil yet. > This was Paul A's Minor 1000. > Runs good (ask BillM) but needs some work.. > Occupational Therapy. ;-)) > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billy Zoom" > > It's supposed to have a really stupid plastic tube to hold the dipstick. > That's what those chunks in your oil were. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 16:02:01 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:02:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <97988.8180.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <972343.27095.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> They jump us on starts, but after a lap or so they just sort of fade in the mirror. --- On Wed, 3/9/11, fastvee wrote: Bring on the Volvos. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 9 16:58:16 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:58:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget off to get respray In-Reply-To: References: <1101163355.2329063.1299622960899.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D781418.4000505@justbrits.com> << BTW somehow your emails have a bunch of letter "B's" possibly for a space or something. >> As near as I can tell without writing each person, those "B"s are a *"benefit"* of using Comcast Mail !! I have seen two [2] folks on this List but also several on 4 or 5 OTHER Lists !! Seems logical that they are using the Mail Client ON the Comcast.net site and NOT a stand-alone Mail Client such as Mozilla's Firefox [like I use], Outlook [POS], Outlook Express, [REAL POS], and others. FWIW, FYI, YMMV, Blah-blah, & Yada-yada. Ed From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 9 17:17:15 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:17:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <76E638EB3F3346A49C11CCE66FEBFDFA@WOODSTOCK> References: <1032616061.1728796.1299541877324.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <76E638EB3F3346A49C11CCE66FEBFDFA@WOODSTOCK> Message-ID: <4D78188B.2090201@justbrits.com> Jeff, Jeff, Jeff............... << The doubled over portion of the dipstick can be spread slightly to make it fit snuggly in the block. >> How *COULD* you ??? That is just **WRONG**; *Take away one of the GREAT quirks of the Bugeye !?!?* Sheeeeeesh, what will be thought of next ???? PPP From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 9 17:22:01 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:22:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <4D765AF1.3070809@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4D7819A9.4090304@justbrits.com> << At least THAT spell seems to have worked for her... >> UNLIKE some Listers, "E" DOES like ME, David. How many times have YOU called her ???? Or has she called you ??? Huuuum. Ed From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 9 17:31:13 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <4D7819A9.4090304@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1482630943.1767618.1299717073110.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> A 'real' gentleman never tells tales about a lady... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" How many times have YOU called her ???? Or has she called you ??? From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 17:34:18 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:34:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <4D7819A9.4090304@justbrits.com> References: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <4D765AF1.3070809@justbrits.com> <4D7819A9.4090304@justbrits.com> Message-ID: > UNLIKE some Listers, "E" DOES like ME, David. > How many times have YOU called her ???? Or has she called you ??? I see, that is why you never call her? She was before my time, so no, she doesn't call me nor vice-versa. She must be yet another of the fine souls that you have driven from this List. Quite a crowd of them... David Lieb From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 9 17:39:21 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:39:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: References: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <4D765AF1.3070809@justbrits.com> <4D7819A9.4090304@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4D781DB9.3050408@justbrits.com> << She must be yet another of the fine souls that you have driven from this List. >> Wrong AGAIN. Getting to be NORMAL for you. Fisher was a better man then you could ever hope to be. << Quite a crowd of them...>> Not as many as you have. And I have been credited with canceling a GREAT Event - as you have. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 17:59:35 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:59:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: <4D781DB9.3050408@justbrits.com> References: <2017500585.985943.1299561816308.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <4D765AF1.3070809@justbrits.com> <4D7819A9.4090304@justbrits.com> <4D781DB9.3050408@justbrits.com> Message-ID: > Not as many as you have. And I have been credited with canceling > a GREAT Event - as you have. Talk is cheap, especially from you. David L From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 18:19:50 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:19:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] mileage vs. age In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <881088.95589.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > And I have been credited with canceling > > a GREAT Event - as you have. > > Talk is cheap, especially from you. > David L Guys, This looks interesting. Is there an instruction manual for the thread, though? I don't think a lot of us know what the urination Olympics is about, and we all love a good contest. Do tell. Ron From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 9 19:08:24 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 948cc dipstick question.. In-Reply-To: <2076117116.1768970.1299722860021.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1130271585.1768981.1299722904549.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Folks. Thanks for all the answers... It won't be long before the next question ;~] -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From kentmclean at comcast.net Wed Mar 9 19:22:28 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:22:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D7835E4.5030607@comcast.net> Leo 60bugeye wrote: > It is a 1960's vintage Bultaco flat track race bike. Try the Spanish Motorcycle Owners Group (SMOG). -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Mar 9 20:06:26 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:06:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] HIF44 Custom Throttle Cable and SoCal Weather Message-ID: <730233.71521.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> For those of you running a single HIF44 carb, APT sells a throttle cable that has a teflon ferrule that snaps into a slot in the HIF44 carb heat shield. This cable is originally for a Mini, so it is just a little short for the Bugeye and early Spridgets. The one that is in mine binds once in a while because it is so short. I have to tap it with my foot to bring the idle down. Not sure if this applies to later cars. Anyway, David Anton is making a hybrid throttle cable for me that is 5 inches longer. It is a combination of a standard throttle cable and the Mini cable so it works with the standard HIF44 heat shield. Should solve the problem. Also, I bought a adjustable oil relief valve while I was there. My car runs at 90 PSI on the freeway. David told me that the excess pressure will activate a bypass valve in the filter, so there would be no filtering. There was some question if this device would fit a 1275 Bugeye because it was designed for a Mini, but there is all kinds of room. So I will trying that out soon. Anyway, I was out all day with the Bugeye charging around town because I took the day off for a dentist's visit. I almost forgot how much fun this car can be. It sits in the garage most of the time because I work so much. Lucky if it gets 500 miles a year these days. It was a beautiful day today n Southern California. Had to be in the high 70s, low 80s! I had a choice of using my Harley or the Bugeye. Luckily the Bugeye won out. What a hoot at almost 38 miles to the gallon! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 06:43:07 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:43:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay Message-ID: Check out this eBay Midget with Midget trailer very funny : ) *http://tinyurl.com/4ontae4* Lin From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 07:01:51 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:01:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <175809.46701.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I like the modified windscreen on the trailer. A "Speedster" windscreen probably wouldn't be legal in PA but I'd like to try it sometime on a fair weather car. Is that luggage rack mounted the wrong way around? John Fogelsville, PA --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: Check out this eBay Midget with Midget trailer very funny : ) *http://tinyurl.com/4ontae4* Lin From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 10 07:59:08 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:59:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay Message-ID: The luggage rack was one of the things that struck me as odd. Also, where does one put the rear licence plate? And, correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1500 started with the '75? ( I'm also willing to be corrected if I'm right, but do be creative! :) And, I guess it was the builder's artistic decision to keep a piece of tailpipe on the trailer ... I like this MGA. I can't decide what it is that makes it stand out for me.Windscreen? Stance? Angle of photo? ( maybe I'm used to seeing the RHD? )http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/09/bat-exclusive-enhanced-1958-mga-roadster /orhttp://tinyurl.com/6d4rac4 Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:01:51 -0800 > From: fastvee at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay > > I like the modified windscreen on the trailer. A "Speedster" windscreen probably wouldn't be legal in PA but I'd like to try it sometime on a fair weather car. Is that luggage rack mounted the wrong way around? > John > Fogelsville, PA > > --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Check out this eBay Midget with Midget trailer very funny : ) > > *http://tinyurl.com/4ontae4* > Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 08:18:02 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:18:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph Message-ID: List, If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design these for the TR's? *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* ** ** Lin From grday at btinternet.com Thu Mar 10 09:03:58 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:03:58 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph References: Message-ID: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> Lin, could please, please loose the * at either end of the URL, or at least put a space inbetween the * and URL. I (and probably others) can access the URL directly by pressing Ctrl and mouse click on the URL if you do. It does not work if you add them. Big Hugs. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph > List, > If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. > Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design > these > for the TR's? > > *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* > ** > ** > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 10:52:53 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:52:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <976003.96857.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Robert, That is stunning!!! It isn't any one feature, and I love the smooth look. The author thinks he can improve it but not sure I could. John Fogelsville, PA - I like this MGA. I can't decide what it is that makes it stand out for me.Windscreen? Stance? Angle of photo? ( maybe I'm used to seeing the RHD? )http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/09/bat-exclusive-enhanced-1958-mga-roadster /orhttp://tinyurl.com/6d4rac4 Robert Duquette From lmacy at mac.com Thu Mar 10 11:04:52 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph In-Reply-To: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> References: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: I agree. The standard way to offset a URL is with pointy brackets, like this And that does not affect the clickability of the URL. Larry On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Lin, could please, please loose the * at either end of the URL, or at least put a space inbetween the * and URL. > I (and probably others) can access the URL directly by pressing Ctrl and mouse click on the URL if you do. > It does not work if you add them. > Big Hugs. > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Spridget list" > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:18 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph > > >> List, >> If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. >> Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design these >> for the TR's? >> >> *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* >> ** >> ** >> Lin >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 11:10:19 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:10:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A 1500cc thrust washer chunker, How charming... On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Check out this eBay Midget with Midget trailer very funny : ) > > *http://tinyurl.com/4ontae4* > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rich_ball at mindspring.com Thu Mar 10 11:30:24 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:30:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay References: Message-ID: Hey! My car resembles that remark! All I can say is I may not have a chrome bumper car, but I have a Midget and I like it. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "Spridget list" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay >A 1500cc thrust washer chunker, > How charming... > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > >> Check out this eBay Midget with Midget trailer very funny : ) >> >> *http://tinyurl.com/4ontae4* >> Lin >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu Mar 10 11:51:43 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:51:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay In-Reply-To: <976003.96857.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <976003.96857.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D791DBF.7060400@justbrits.com> *<< ...**but not sure I could.** >>* DITTO John, DITTO !!! I absolutely LOVE not only the colour combo but the small but absolutely "correct" body work "alterations" he has done !!! From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 10 12:24:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget trailer very funny eBay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1476004506.1779534.1299785063823.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Ditto... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ball" Hey! My car resembles that remark! All I can say is I may not have a chrome bumper car, but I have a Midget and I like it. From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 12:50:37 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:50:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] General Spridget content Message-ID: Actually, I'm just checking to see if my new signature file works when posting to the spridgets list. -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Mar 10 17:51:54 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:51:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: <4D7835E4.5030607@comcast.net> References: <4D7835E4.5030607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D79722A.3060407@comcast.net> Kent McLean wrote: > Leo 60bugeye wrote: >> It is a 1960's vintage Bultaco flat track race bike. > > Try the Spanish Motorcycle Owners Group (SMOG). > Help from another list... I wrote the company to see if they would respond. Here is there response (regarding serial numbers): "These are on the right side center case towards the back of the case. A replacement case will not have a serial number on it. When you use a replacement case the numbers are supposed to be stamped in to match the old case but if somebody doesn't have the stamps to do so it doesn't get done. This is probably what happened if don't find the numbers on there. Regards, Tim Bultaco Motorcycles -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 00:46:58 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:46:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian motorcycle NON LBC In-Reply-To: <4D79722A.3060407@comcast.net> References: <4D7835E4.5030607@comcast.net> <4D79722A.3060407@comcast.net> Message-ID: As I said. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > Kent McLean wrote: > >> Leo 60bugeye wrote: >> >>> It is a 1960's vintage Bultaco flat track race bike. >>> >> >> Try the Spanish Motorcycle Owners Group (SMOG). >> >> > > Help from another list... > > > I wrote the company to see if they would respond. Here is there response > (regarding serial numbers): > > "These are on the right side center case towards the back of the case. A > replacement case will not have a serial number on it. When you use a > replacement case the numbers are supposed to be stamped in to match the old > case but if somebody doesn't have the stamps to do so it doesn't get done. > This is probably what happened if don't find the numbers on there. > > Regards, > Tim > Bultaco Motorcycles > > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 06:02:35 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:02:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] General Spridget content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I see it : ) Lin On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Actually, I'm just checking to see if my new signature file works when > posting to the spridgets list. > > -Trevor > PS > Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 06:04:30 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:04:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph In-Reply-To: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> References: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: I put a space between it. And then tested it which it worked for me, not sure what else to do can do let me know. ***http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66 * Lin On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Lin, could please, please loose the * at either end of the URL, or at least > put a space inbetween the * and URL. > I (and probably others) can access the URL directly by pressing Ctrl and > mouse click on the URL if you do. > It does not work if you add them. > Big Hugs. > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" < > grunthaner at gmail.com> > To: "Spridget list" > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:18 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph > > > List, >> If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. >> Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design >> these >> for the TR's? >> >> *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* >> ** >> ** >> Lin >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 06:15:24 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:15:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph In-Reply-To: <7450384707519139541@unknownmsgid> References: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> <7450384707519139541@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: That's what I meant to say no asterisks just space before and after then a return http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66 I see there are asterisks on your reply and I don't know how they get there. Lin On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:08 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Why are you putting in asterisks at all??? Simply put in a return, > paste the Link, put in another return. > > David L > > On Mar 11, 2011, at 7:05, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > I put a space between it. And then tested it which it worked for me, not > > sure what else to do can do let me know. > > ***http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66 * > > Lin > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Guy R Day > wrote: > > > >> Lin, could please, please loose the * at either end of the URL, or at > least > >> put a space inbetween the * and URL. > >> I (and probably others) can access the URL directly by pressing Ctrl and > >> mouse click on the URL if you do. > >> It does not work if you add them. > >> Big Hugs. > >> > >> Guy R Day > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" < > >> grunthaner at gmail.com> > >> To: "Spridget list" > >> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:18 PM > >> Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph > >> > >> > >> List, > >>> If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. > >>> Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design > >>> these > >>> for the TR's? > >>> > >>> *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* > >>> ** > >>> ** > >>> Lin > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget at gmail.com From grday at btinternet.com Fri Mar 11 06:57:21 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:57:21 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph References: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <219814E339F749F2B1EEDEF3FE2235F9@user8634b3d69b> Hi Lin, This one works. This one was just like you, gorgeous, functional and truly wonderful !! (Creep!) If you compare it with the original at the bottom of this messages you will see the differences. Big Hugs Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Guy R Day Cc: Spridget list Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph I put a space between it. And then tested it which it worked for me, not sure what else to do can do let me know. http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66 Lin On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Guy R Day wrote: Lin, could please, please loose the * at either end of the URL, or at least put a space inbetween the * and URL. I (and probably others) can access the URL directly by pressing Ctrl and mouse click on the URL if you do. It does not work if you add them. Big Hugs. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph List, If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design these for the TR's? *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* ** ** Lin _______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 07:35:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:35:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph In-Reply-To: <219814E339F749F2B1EEDEF3FE2235F9@user8634b3d69b> References: <4D4697A5A141495489A35913DD3BA4C0@user8634b3d69b> <219814E339F749F2B1EEDEF3FE2235F9@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: glad it finally works : ) Lin On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Hi Lin, > > This one works. > This one was just like you, gorgeous, functional and truly wonderful !! > (Creep!) > > If you compare it with the original at the bottom of this messages you will > see the differences. > > Big Hugs > > > Guy R Day > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Linda Grunthaner > *To:* Guy R Day > *Cc:* Spridget list > *Sent:* Friday, March 11, 2011 1:04 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph > > I put a space between it. And then tested it which it worked for me, not > sure what else to do can do let me know. > ***http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66 * > Lin > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > >> Lin, could please, please loose the * at either end of the URL, or at >> least put a space inbetween the * and URL. >> I (and probably others) can access the URL directly by pressing Ctrl and >> mouse click on the URL if you do. >> It does not work if you add them. >> Big Hugs. >> >> Guy R Day >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" >> To: "Spridget list" >> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:18 PM >> Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph >> >> >> List, >>> If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. >>> Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design >>> these >>> for the TR's? >>> >>> *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* >>> ** >>> ** >>> Lin >>> _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 11 08:21:28 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <933670629.1791395.1299856888428.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> No asterisks on either of my mail programs... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" That's what I meant to say no asterisks just space before and after then a return http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66 I see there are asterisks on your reply and I don't know how they get there. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Mar 11 14:36:45 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:36:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Points...... Message-ID: <201103111336216.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> In Concours judging, can one deduct points for have a patent label on a 1275 valve cover which patnet number refers to a part not found in a 1275 engine? Opine away.... Peter C From peter at nosimport.com Fri Mar 11 14:40:46 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:40:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Points...... In-Reply-To: <201103111336216.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103111336216.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <201103111340524.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> typos fixed.... At 03:36 PM 3/11/2011, Peter Caldwell wrote: >In Concours judging, can one deduct points for having a patent label >on a 1275 valve cover which patent number refers to a part not found >in a 1275 engine? > >Opine away.... > >Peter C From hardy.john at cox.net Fri Mar 11 15:17:01 2011 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:17:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Points...... In-Reply-To: <201103111340524.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <20110311171701.0STD3.23046.imail@fed1rmwml33> Peter, I think this year's cabin fever has driven you over the edge! Hang in there buddy, Spring is right around the corner. Cheers, John P.S. Sunny and 70 degress in San Diego today, ho-hum another crappy day in paradise!! ---- Peter Caldwell wrote: > typos fixed.... > > > At 03:36 PM 3/11/2011, Peter Caldwell wrote: > >In Concours judging, can one deduct points for having a patent label > >on a 1275 valve cover which patent number refers to a part not found > >in a 1275 engine? > > > >Opine away.... > > > >Peter C > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hardy.john at cox.net From george.brokaw at cox.net Fri Mar 11 15:26:40 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Points...... In-Reply-To: <20110311171701.0STD3.23046.imail@fed1rmwml33> References: <201103111340524.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <20110311171701.0STD3.23046.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <035e01cbe03b$64d230a0$2e7691e0$@brokaw@cox.net> It is sunny and 72 in the Wichita Kansas area also! So WTF am I doing reading emails???? Paul -----Original Message----- Peter, I think this year's cabin fever has driven you over the edge! Hang in there buddy, Spring is right around the corner. Cheers, John P.S. Sunny and 70 degress in San Diego today, ho-hum another crappy day in paradise!! ---- Peter Caldwell wrote: > typos fixed.... > > > At 03:36 PM 3/11/2011, Peter Caldwell wrote: > >In Concours judging, can one deduct points for having a patent label > >on a 1275 valve cover which patent number refers to a part not found > >in a 1275 engine? > > > >Opine away.... > > > >Peter C From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 11 15:32:37 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:32:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Points...... In-Reply-To: <201103111340524.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103111336216.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, <201103111340524.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: So they'll never reproduce again? Robert D > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:40:46 -0600 > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > From: peter at nosimport.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Points...... > > typos fixed.... > > > At 03:36 PM 3/11/2011, Peter Caldwell wrote: > >In Concours judging, can one deduct points for having a patent label > >on a 1275 valve cover which patent number refers to a part not found > >in a 1275 engine? > > > >Opine away.... > > > >Peter C > _______________________________________________ From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Mar 11 15:44:28 2011 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:44:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Southside British Cars Message-ID: <4D7AA5CC.8010605@verizon.net> In Danville, VA. Anyone have any first hand experience or comments. Off-list is fine, appreciate it. CB From shop at justbrits.com Fri Mar 11 16:15:25 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:15:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... rare item on eBay In-Reply-To: <03c701cbe027$4a680af0$0300000a@Workstation1> References: <03c701cbe027$4a680af0$0300000a@Workstation1> Message-ID: <4D7AAD0D.7050708@justbrits.com> Colin: He has GOT to be a crook !! Item & Link for his "store": *http://tinyurl.com/4rg3gax or *http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160557818714&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.shop.ebay.com%3A80%2FeBay-Motors-%2F6000%2Fi.html%3F_nkw%3D160557818714%26_ssn%3Dbnkesales%26_trksid%3Dp3911.c0.m270.l1313%26_rdc%3D1%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=2 I tried to "Ask Seller a Question" from 3 OTHER Items he has up for Auction. ALL result in something like Seller NOT taking questions on this Item!!!! A google for "British Sports Car Rescue": ZERO hits by his NAME !! I checked the first FIFTY provided Links = nada also. Tim, YOU know this guy from Birmingham ?? YES, I mean MI !! LOL I'm gonna Bcc some Spridgeteer chaps in MI I know that are only on the BEST Spridget List & NOT here [AutoX] and see if any of them "know" and I shall "report" back !! I am also just asking some chaps if they know him or have dealt with him. Ed Ed From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Mar 11 16:59:08 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:59:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... rare item on eBay In-Reply-To: <4D7AAD0D.7050708@justbrits.com> References: <03c701cbe027$4a680af0$0300000a@Workstation1> <4D7AAD0D.7050708@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Well, he only has 15 feedbacks but has been a Member since: Oct-27-01 Probably changed his Handle a few times. ...bill in corvallis ================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shop at " Just Brits " Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:15 PM To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; midget; 4 -Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... rare item on eBay Colin: He has GOT to be a crook !! Item & Link for his "store": http://tinyurl.com/4rg3gax or *http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160557818714& ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.shop.ebay.com%3A80%2FeBay-Motors-%2F6000%2Fi.html%3F_ nkw%3D160557818714%26_ssn%3Dbnkesales%26_trksid%3Dp3911.c0.m270.l1313%26_rdc %3D1%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=2 I tried to "Ask Seller a Question" from 3 OTHER Items he has up for Auction. ALL result in something like Seller NOT taking questions on this Item!!!! A google for "British Sports Car Rescue": ZERO hits by his NAME !! I checked the first FIFTY provided Links = nada also. Tim, YOU know this guy from Birmingham ?? YES, I mean MI !! LOL I'm gonna Bcc some Spridgeteer chaps in MI I know that are only on the BEST Spridget List & NOT here [AutoX] and see if any of them "know" and I shall "report" back !! I am also just asking some chaps if they know him or have dealt with him. Ed _______________________________________________ From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Mar 11 17:15:00 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:15:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... rare item on eBay In-Reply-To: <4D7AAD0D.7050708@justbrits.com> References: <03c701cbe027$4a680af0$0300000a@Workstation1> <4D7AAD0D.7050708@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <9c4a79$b8lbo4@email.mtu.edu> I don't know anything about this seller. B'ham is a couple of high crime cities South of me. I don't have enough bullets to hang out down there. You heard about the Detroiter who couldn't understand why people rag on Detroit? Someone asked him where he works. Turns out he's the tail gunner on a beer truck. :) At 06:15 PM 3/11/2011, Shop at \" Just Brits \" wrote: >Colin: > >He has GOT to be a crook !! > >Tim, YOU know this guy from Birmingham ?? YES, I mean MI !! LOL >Ed >Ed Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From herby at herbytoys.com Fri Mar 11 18:17:26 2011 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:17:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] HIF44 Custom Throttle Cable and SoCal Weather In-Reply-To: <730233.71521.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <97AE3ABE68F9483AB0E0535BDFB25943@HERBYZ> Mike, Is David going to offer this for sale? I'm currently using the same cable I had on my Weber. It's long enough and functional but not hooked up through the heat shield correctly. THX Herby 62 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy) 00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com _____ From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:06 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] HIF44 Custom Throttle Cable and SoCal Weather For those of you running a single HIF44 carb, APT sells a throttle cable that has a teflon ferrule that snaps into a slot in the HIF44 carb heat shield. This cable is originally for a Mini, so it is just a little short for the Bugeye and early Spridgets. The one that is in mine binds once in a while because it is so short. I have to tap it with my foot to bring the idle down. Not sure if this applies to later cars. Anyway, David Anton is making a hybrid throttle cable for me that is 5 inches longer. It is a combination of a standard throttle cable and the Mini cable so it works with the standard HIF44 heat shield. Should solve the problem. Also, I bought a adjustable oil relief valve while I was there. My car runs at 90 PSI on the freeway. David told me that the excess pressure will activate a bypass valve in the filter, so there would be no filtering. There was some question if this device would fit a 1275 Bugeye because it was designed for a Mini, but there is all kinds of room. So I will trying that out soon. Anyway, I was out all day with the Bugeye charging around town because I took the day off for a dentist's visit. I almost forgot how much fun this car can be. It sits in the garage most of the time because I work so much. Lucky if it gets 500 miles a year these days. It was a beautiful day today n Southern California. Had to be in the high 70s, low 80s! I had a choice of using my Harley or the Bugeye. Luckily the Bugeye won out. What a hoot at almost 38 miles to the gallon! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer _______________________________________________ From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Mar 11 18:29:17 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:29:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... rare item on eBay In-Reply-To: <4D7AAD0D.7050708@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <258548.6630.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed, Give the guy a break, he made a mistake, and has a correction on the listing. Sheesh! Just cause you never make mistakes... John Fogelsville, PA --- On Fri, 3/11/11, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: He has GOT to be a crook !! I tried to "Ask Seller a Question" from 3 OTHER Items he has up for Auction. ALL result in something like Seller NOT taking questions on this Item!!!! A google for "British Sports Car Rescue": ZERO hits by his NAME !! I checked the first FIFTY provided Links = nada also. Tim, YOU know this guy from Birmingham ?? YES, I mean MI !! LOL I'm gonna Bcc some Spridgeteer chaps in MI I know that are only on the BEST Spridget List & NOT here [AutoX] and see if any of them "know" and I shall "report" back !! I am also just asking some chaps if they know him or have dealt with him. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Mar 11 19:23:08 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:23:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] EN40B crankshaft FS Message-ID: <873027.13369.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Std/Std EN40B crank - Did not sell on ebay - contact me if interested at much lower price. Thanks, Ron From shop at justbrits.com Fri Mar 11 20:55:51 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:55:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... rare item on eBay In-Reply-To: <258548.6630.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <258548.6630.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D7AEEC7.2030407@justbrits.com> << Give the guy a break, he made a mistake, and has a correction on the listing. >> If you had read ALL yer mail John, you would know it was NOT me that 'started' this [sorry Jay] thread. And I cite the org. person. So I just went back to see the "correction" [which is there but says '58 - 61' - still wrong] and ALSO see he just yanked the item very early - no, it didn't 'say' anything about available locally !! So just for you - since you must know the person - I again checked his store AND check four [4] different item than the 3 I 1st ckd. Guess what?? * Find answers from bscrescue * *info* We're sorry we couldn't find an answer for you. Unfortunately, this seller is not able to respond to your question. We suggest reviewing the item again to see if your answer is in the seller's listing. So since you know the person, what's the deal ?? Only charges "actual shipping" but already KNEW the 'town' he would be shipping to for $11.85 ?!?!? OK, so he apparently is gonna use Flat Rate which is NOT the cheapest method !! And he has "NOS Brake Springs" - B.S. - the 'tiny give-away just might be the Union Jack Sticker on each just like is shipped today. AND the ad SAYS "Used: ....". Geesh, come on, John. Ed From bkitterer at me.com Fri Mar 11 20:59:03 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:59:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Last Call Message-ID: <4CC0874E-A937-4AFE-9729-4BB4313CB6E3@me.com> Hi Folks, In two days we will be leaving on our trip to circumnavigate the USA and parts of lower Canada. No it is not in a LBC but will be an adventure anyway. A number of you are already following us on our adventures via our private web sites (just for family and friends). If you are not following these adventures and would like to just respond (off line) to this email and I will add you to the update notice list. Thanks and expect to be back with the Sprites sin a year or so. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From bkitterer at me.com Fri Mar 11 21:08:30 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:08:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Points...... In-Reply-To: <201103111340524.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103111336216.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <201103111340524.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: This indeed sounds like a Concours judging question. IMHO if the patent covers a part that is now used in a newer version on this engine then no deduction. If it covers a part that does not exist in any form on the engine then it should be a deduction if for no other reason than that the label should not be there in the first place. But what do I know, it is Concours judging. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Mar 11, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > typos fixed.... > > > At 03:36 PM 3/11/2011, Peter Caldwell wrote: >> In Concours judging, can one deduct points for having a patent label on a 1275 valve cover which patent number refers to a part not found in a 1275 engine? >> >> Opine away.... >> >> Peter C > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From fastvee at yahoo.com Sat Mar 12 05:28:53 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:28:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... rare item on eBay Message-ID: <484034.40356.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed, It's one thing to poke fun at the guy, it's quite another to drag his name through the mud on multiple news groups. No I don't know him, and I also don't see anything to justify your actions. From his feedback he looks like a Spridget enthusiast who is mostly buying, has no negatives, and could even be a list member. With all of this back lash It's no wonder he pulled the ad. Maybe this is your new business plan? Get a life. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Fri, 3/11/11, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: If you had read ALL yer mail John, you would know it was NOT me that 'started' this [sorry Jay] thread. And I cite the org. person. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 06:05:38 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:05:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 Message-ID: List, I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start my Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the seats is that normal? 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original but again clashes with the transmission mat. 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was aftermarket and they originally were empty. 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before the seats. Thanks, Linda *http://tinyurl.com/45zuse9 * From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 06:07:21 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Last Call In-Reply-To: <4CC0874E-A937-4AFE-9729-4BB4313CB6E3@me.com> References: <4CC0874E-A937-4AFE-9729-4BB4313CB6E3@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob, Where is your starting point and how far into Canada are you traveling? Lin On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Bob Kitterer wrote: > Hi Folks, > > In two days we will be leaving on our trip to circumnavigate the USA and > parts of lower Canada. No it is not in a LBC but will be an adventure > anyway. A number of you are already following us on our adventures via our > private web sites (just for family and friends). If you are not following > these adventures and would like to just respond (off line) to this email and > I will add you to the update notice list. > > Thanks and expect to be back with the Sprites sin a year or so. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Mar 12 06:15:04 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:15:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Willow Springs Historics - Anyone ? Message-ID: <1bd0c.6edae3c4.3aaccbd8@aol.com> Anyone here planning to attend the HSR West-Spring Historic Races at Willow Springs this weekend? I'm going to be flying out to visit family in L.A. and will be free to goof off tomorrow (Sunday), so I'll be attending. It would be fun to hook up with some Spridget folk. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. _http://www.hsrwestrace.com/HSR_West/Spring_Historics_Invitation_1.html_ (http://www.hsrwestrace.com/HSR_West/Spring_Historics_Invitation_1.html) From jfishbein at snet.net Sat Mar 12 07:18:29 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:18:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Everything is correct that you question. The rear panels are light grey and the floor mats are period Amco mats. The original rubber mats varied in their shades of blue, green, etc. This looks like a nice car but it would get points deducted for other areas. If you're interested in concours and historical info, get a copy of the Concours guidelines as well the books on Sprites in addition to Horlers. This list has less than a handful of people interested in originality. PS I would doubt that this car has a period correct wire wheel setup. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 8:05:38 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 List, I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start my Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the seats is that normal? 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original but again clashes with the transmission mat. 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was aftermarket and they originally were empty. 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before the seats. Thanks, Linda http://tinyurl.com/45zuse9 From stargazer1 at cox.net Sat Mar 12 07:20:30 2011 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:20:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] South by Southwest In-Reply-To: <1bd0c.6edae3c4.3aaccbd8@aol.com> References: <1bd0c.6edae3c4.3aaccbd8@aol.com> Message-ID: <4D7B812E.8000706@cox.net> Are any Spridgeteers attending South by Southwest in Austin? Maybe we could meet up if we're not too exhausted from sessions and parties. ;-) Cheers, Dave Ambrose From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 08:26:14 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:26:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Triumph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rough example of a beautiful car. Wish I still had mine. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > If you like TR's, this looks like a good deal, nice seats too. > Didn't the guy who designed our headlight buckets on the Bugeye design these > for the TR's? > > *http://tinyurl.com/6x4wm66* From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sat Mar 12 08:27:01 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:27:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement Message-ID: Hi, Guys and Gals: I haven`t contributed to the list on line for a while, but would welcome some advice on rod bearing replacement. This is for my 65 Midget 1098 CC- 55,000 miles. Last oil change, I noticed a few sparkles in the drained oil. I cut open the filter and found some metallic debris. I haven`t dropped the pan yet before I get my thoughts together, but I`m sure a bearing has failed. The engine is smooth and quiet and good oil pressure. 60+ warm at highway, 25-35 hot idle. The car isn`t run much, so the oil is changed about twice a year, this filter about 800 miles. I hope whatever happened may have only recently occurred, maybe due to an excessive fast idle malfunction on cold start that I neglected. Then, I`ve also heard that 50K miles on bearings is about the limit. I`ve had the car from new, done all maintenance myself, but not bearings before. Live and learn. Plenty questions, but here`s a start. What is a source for good quality bearings ? I don`t want to end up doing the job twice because of cheap parts that don`t fit and can`t last. Will standard size bearings be adequate or will I routinely need undersize? Although I hear that big end rod bearings are the first to give up, is it possible to remove the crank bearings for inspection without pulling the engine? As a kid, 50 years ago, I worked at a garage and remember the mechanics had some way of doing the crank bearings in the car, even grind the crank in place. Unfortunately, I didn`t pay attention. Should I place sealer on the flange side of the front and rear U seals or put them in dry? With all those little bolts, I expect getting the pan back in place without the two-piece gasket moving around is going to be tricky. Is there some way of making this easier? Can I get enough debris out of the out of the motor without stripping the oil pump as the manual says? The job appears to be pretty straight-forward; although I`ve found that nothing ends up being easy, particularly the first time. Some of you racers probably do this in your sleep. When the MG is working again, I`m planning to replace the Bugeye bearings just as a precaution. As I said, live and learn. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Bert Shirey 65 Midget MK II 60 Bugeye From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Mar 12 08:35:22 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:35:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BC639D11FCD49A8B2117700D9CABDDE@spider> Is the metal magnetic? ...bill in corvallis ==================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bert Shirey Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:27 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement Hi, Guys and Gals: I haven`t contributed to the list on line for a while, but would welcome some advice on rod bearing replacement. This is for my 65 Midget 1098 CC- 55,000 miles. Last oil change, I noticed a few sparkles in the drained oil. I cut open the filter and found some metallic debris. I haven`t dropped the pan yet before I get my thoughts together, but I`m sure a bearing has failed. The engine is smooth and quiet and good oil pressure. 60+ warm at highway, 25-35 hot idle. The car isn`t run much, so the oil is changed about twice a year, this filter about 800 miles. I hope whatever happened may have only recently occurred, maybe due to an excessive fast idle malfunction on cold start that I neglected. Then, I`ve also heard that 50K miles on bearings is about the limit. I`ve had the car from new, done all maintenance myself, but not bearings before. Live and learn. Plenty questions, but here`s a start. What is a source for good quality bearings ? I don`t want to end up doing the job twice because of cheap parts that don`t fit and can`t last. Will standard size bearings be adequate or will I routinely need undersize? Although I hear that big end rod bearings are the first to give up, is it possible to remove the crank bearings for inspection without pulling the engine? As a kid, 50 years ago, I worked at a garage and remember the mechanics had some way of doing the crank bearings in the car, even grind the crank in place. Unfortunately, I didn`t pay attention. Should I place sealer on the flange side of the front and rear U seals or put them in dry? With all those little bolts, I expect getting the pan back in place without the two-piece gasket moving around is going to be tricky. Is there some way of making this easier? Can I get enough debris out of the out of the motor without stripping the oil pump as the manual says? The job appears to be pretty straight-forward; although I`ve found that nothing ends up being easy, particularly the first time. Some of you racers probably do this in your sleep. When the MG is working again, I`m planning to replace the Bugeye bearings just as a precaution. As I said, live and learn. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Bert Shirey 65 Midget MK II 60 Bugeye Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sat Mar 12 08:46:21 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:46:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> Linda: Ditto what Jay said, especially the wire wheel setup. Being the anal person I am when I read ads stating " car underwent a nut and bolt restoration to original specifications" I almost roll my eyes in wonderment even before I look at the pictures. This car is really nice but within minutes would be out of the points range for for gold or silver, possibly even bronze when being judged. If you are the least bit interested in restoring you car to "original" specifications get a copy of the JUDGING STANDARDS and several different books available on Sprites and Midgets , read them front to back, go to lots of shows and look closely at the cars displayed, join a list such as this, and get prepared to become anal.:) Oh yea, TRIPLE THE RESTORATION BUDGET. Most shops will not do the research to do a concours level or even for that matter a restoration focused on originality. Or maybe I should say most people are not willing to spend the money on a restoration focused on originality. The details become expensive.... The really bad part is that almost as soon as the restoration is finished it becomes an ongoing effort to slow down the aging process of its "fresh" look. Iris has covered less than 2k miles and I keep looking at what needs to be redone to keep her looking her best. Now, if I had a lift and a climate controlled garage, bigger checkbook and..... You get the idea:) Leo (not being so anal on the current project) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:18 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 Everything is correct that you question. The rear panels are light grey and the floor mats are period Amco mats. The original rubber mats varied in their shades of blue, green, etc. This looks like a nice car but it would get points deducted for other areas. If you're interested in concours and historical info, get a copy of the Concours guidelines as well the books on Sprites in addition to Horlers. This list has less than a handful of people interested in originality. PS I would doubt that this car has a period correct wire wheel setup. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 8:05:38 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 List, I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start my Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the seats is that normal? 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original but again clashes with the transmission mat. 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was aftermarket and they originally were empty. 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before the seats. Thanks, Linda http://tinyurl.com/45zuse9 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sat Mar 12 08:54:16 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:54:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement Message-ID: <457099AAF2074C1B8D2106B33BE08086@yourw92p4bhlzg> Bill, The particles in the filter are shiny, and they smooth to a shiny residue rubbed between my fingers, rather than sharp and hard like filings. They are oily right now and the oil makes them sticky. I`ll clean them to be sure and get back, but they do not appear to be strongly magnetic, if at all. What would that mean? Bert From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sat Mar 12 09:01:08 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:01:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00e401cbe0ce$b3781fb0$1a685f10$@net> 1st. is the material magnetic, and have you noticed any other signs of impending doom with the motor (knocks, different oil pressure, etc..)? No the mains cant be done in the car nor can the cam bearing. Cleaning of the oil galleries to remove metal fragments is impossible to do in the car, ditto with measuring all the required parts to determine what needs to be done to what for a proper rebuild. OLD stock parts such as bearings can be had on FleaBay once you know what you need. Basically, to do the rebuild right the motor will have to be removed and cleaned and properly refreshed to provide another 50 years of enjoyment provide it is even to that stage yet. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bert Shirey Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:27 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement Hi, Guys and Gals: I haven`t contributed to the list on line for a while, but would welcome some advice on rod bearing replacement. This is for my 65 Midget 1098 CC- 55,000 miles. Last oil change, I noticed a few sparkles in the drained oil. I cut open the filter and found some metallic debris. I haven`t dropped the pan yet before I get my thoughts together, but I`m sure a bearing has failed. The engine is smooth and quiet and good oil pressure. 60+ warm at highway, 25-35 hot idle. The car isn`t run much, so the oil is changed about twice a year, this filter about 800 miles. I hope whatever happened may have only recently occurred, maybe due to an excessive fast idle malfunction on cold start that I neglected. Then, I`ve also heard that 50K miles on bearings is about the limit. I`ve had the car from new, done all maintenance myself, but not bearings before. Live and learn. Plenty questions, but here`s a start. What is a source for good quality bearings ? I don`t want to end up doing the job twice because of cheap parts that don`t fit and can`t last. Will standard size bearings be adequate or will I routinely need undersize? Although I hear that big end rod bearings are the first to give up, is it possible to remove the crank bearings for inspection without pulling the engine? As a kid, 50 years ago, I worked at a garage and remember the mechanics had some way of doing the crank bearings in the car, even grind the crank in place. Unfortunately, I didn`t pay attention. Should I place sealer on the flange side of the front and rear U seals or put them in dry? With all those little bolts, I expect getting the pan back in place without the two-piece gasket moving around is going to be tricky. Is there some way of making this easier? Can I get enough debris out of the out of the motor without stripping the oil pump as the manual says? The job appears to be pretty straight-forward; although I`ve found that nothing ends up being easy, particularly the first time. Some of you racers probably do this in your sleep. When the MG is working again, I`m planning to replace the Bugeye bearings just as a precaution. As I said, live and learn. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Bert Shirey 65 Midget MK II 60 Bugeye Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 12 09:03:45 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:03:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <257668.24986.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Bert Shirey wrote: > From: Bert Shirey > What is a source for good quality > bearings ? I don`t want to end up doing Peter C. is your first stop, peter at nosimport.com. If not, call Rod at Spridgetech, he can probably hook you up with Vandervells or Clevites. Worst case, the AE tri-metals or King Israeli made tri-metals are good for street use. Changing the bearings with motor installed is easy. The pan is easily accessible. Drain the oil. Use a wrench to crack each bolt on the pan, there are 13 or 14 of them, then use a drill with a screwdriver bit to remove the 1/4 - 28 bolts. Save the oval washers/ (even a simple cordlass screwdriver on an extension works). The pan will come off pretty easily, if it doesn't you left one of the fore or aft bolts in. I have had clean oil drain and found shattered bearings in the pan, so don't assume clean oil means you're done. Remove the pickup with a 15/16" (I'm pretty sure) open end and 7/16" for the ears that bolt into the bearing caps. You can take off the screen by undo-ing the 2 nuts on the back side of the pickup, so do that and give it a cleaning. The first bearing to wear is #4, start there. Rotate the crank to bring the piston down (PULL THE SPARK PLUGS first!! Much easier with no compression) Undo the rod nuts, nudge the bearing cap off and inspect/change the bearing. Rotating the crank a bit helps. To get the other half off, push the rod up in the cylinder and you can pop off the bearing. Repeat as necessary. For the mains, start with #2 and you'll change the thrust washers as well while you're in there. #3 main reguires pulling the motor and removing the flywheel and rear plate. If #2 is good, chances are #'s 1 and 3 are also. Good luck - hope that helps, Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 12 09:06:49 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:06:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement Message-ID: <718235.72511.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Also, to do the gasket, a little bit of RTV between the pan and the gasket help, then set the pan upside down to dry the RTV with a few bolts in the holes from the backside. When you're done, it will be all set to install. The end gaskets work randomly no matter how you install them. Ron --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement > To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Bert Shirey" > Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 10:03 AM > --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Bert Shirey > > wrote: > > From: Bert Shirey > > What is a source for good quality > > bearings ? I don`t want to end up doing > > Peter C. is your first stop, peter at nosimport.com. > If not, call Rod at Spridgetech, he can probably hook you up > with Vandervells or Clevites. Worst case, the AE tri-metals > or King Israeli made tri-metals are good for street use. > > Changing the bearings with motor installed is easy. The pan > is easily accessible. Drain the oil. Use a wrench to crack > each bolt on the pan, there are 13 or 14 of them, then use a > drill with a screwdriver bit to remove the 1/4 - 28 bolts. > Save the oval washers/ (even a simple cordlass screwdriver > on an extension works). The pan will come off pretty easily, > if it doesn't you left one of the fore or aft bolts in. I > have had clean oil drain and found shattered bearings in the > pan, so don't assume clean oil means you're done. Remove the > pickup with a 15/16" (I'm pretty sure) open end and 7/16" > for the ears that bolt into the bearing caps. You can take > off the screen by undo-ing the 2 nuts on the back side of > the pickup, so do that and give it a cleaning. > > The first bearing to wear is #4, start there. Rotate the > crank to bring the piston down (PULL THE SPARK PLUGS first!! > Much easier with no compression) Undo the rod nuts, nudge > the bearing cap off and inspect/change the bearing. Rotating > the crank a bit helps. To get the other half off, push the > rod up in the cylinder and you can pop off the bearing. > Repeat as necessary. For the mains, start with #2 and you'll > change the thrust washers as well while you're in there. #3 > main reguires pulling the motor and removing the flywheel > and rear plate. If #2 is good, chances are #'s 1 and 3 are > also. > > Good luck - hope that helps, > Ron > > > > > From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Sat Mar 12 09:28:11 2011 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:28:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00cf01cbe0d2$7d485f00$77d91d00$@qwest.net> Linda The following comments are based on my experience with my 1960 Bugeye, which I bought in 1964. The build date was 11 Sept. 1959. Ires blue with blue interior. 1. The trim piece above the dash was covered with dark blue vinyl as shown in the pictures. The other 3 pieces were not covered. I assume this was done to reduce glare. 2. My car had carpet installed before I bought it, however before I bought it, I had a ride in a white with red interior Bugeye owned by a friends older sister. That car had the original rubber interior mats. I don't think the original Bugeye had any carpet. I also believe that the rubber floor mats were the reason that so many Bugeye's have problems with rusted floor panels. Since my car had carpet installed early in its life, my floor panels are fine. 3. I suspect that the rubber mats have been painted with a less than pleasing color choice. 4. The panels inside the boot were light grey. 5. The metal covers over the cross member were a popular aftermarket item, as this a high wear area with either rubber mats or carpet. A couple of other comments. Small items, but with a buy it now price of $25,000, things should be right. *The original seats would have had light blue piping. *Contrary to the write up, the Bugeye was never equipped with 1" SU's, they used H1 SU's which are 1 1/8 inch. *Horn is not correct *Plastic cap on the clutch/brake MC. Should be metal. *I have never seen a exhaust pipe brace like that. *In the picture of the dash from the driver's side, the door seal should not be just cut off, but continue under the dash board trim piece where its termination is not visible. Same at the other end. *Door side pocket mounting is incorrect. *Windshield washer bottle is late model unit, which is too small, does not even fit the bracket. *Transmission tunnel mat should be over the shifter housing, not under it. $25,000 I don't think so. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:06 AM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 List, I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start my Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the seats is that normal? 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original but again clashes with the transmission mat. 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was aftermarket and they originally were empty. 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before the seats. Thanks, Linda *http://tinyurl.com/45zuse9 * Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hgmiller3 at qwest.net From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sat Mar 12 09:38:55 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:38:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Message-ID: <7490ADEAB2BA4D00956A80F781C92FA2@yourw92p4bhlzg> Ok, I scraped some of the bits out of the filter and put them in an aluminum can with solvent to separate them from sticky oil. I would think if they were magnetic, they would leap to the magnet, but they appear indifferent. I know that is vague, but at this point, I believe the particles are not magnetic, though they could be some kind of soft alloy. Very shiny and soft. I know I can`t get a proper picture of this till I get the pan down and the bearings out to see what's in there. Magnetic seems to be important. What would non-magnetic indicate. Good or bad. Aren`t the bearings composed of layers of different material? Then the softer upper layer would go before the harder part. What I hope is that I caught this before failure is catastrophic. Bert From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 12 09:44:29 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:44:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: <457099AAF2074C1B8D2106B33BE08086@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <457099AAF2074C1B8D2106B33BE08086@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <4D7BA2ED.1020409@justbrits.com> Welcome back, Bert !!!!! << The particles in the filter are shiny, and they smooth to a shiny residue rubbed between my fingers, rather than sharp and hard like filings. >> OK, Step # 1 = Google or Yellow Pages and find a Lab that does Motor Analysis and give them a ring to fine out if they are STILL there AND still do Testing !! Most will SnailMail the "Kit" to you. Step # 2 = With Front End [or as I prefer, whole car] "in the air", start & get to Operating Temp. - MANDATORY for a "good & reliable Test". CLEAN around Drain Plug - SQUEAKY CLEAN !!!! Out with Drain Plug and USING some type of pliers [to hold the Test Container --- the "collection vial" DOES get VERY HOT !!! ] get the "sample" from draining oil. Return car to normal state. Step # 3 = Take/Mail Sample to Lab; [now this is IMPORTANT part ] CROSS YOUR FINGERS - prayer can help here & WAIT ! Step # 4 = Still waiting ?? Open mail or read fax or read *.pdf or read eMail. The report will not only List the Chemical 'make-up of the oil but tell you EXACTLY what is what and WHERE it comes from including "very high level of copper which is coming from bearing shell(s)." and similar !! Or Amount of water exceeds......! And so on. I have been recommending and DOING Lab Motor Oil Analysis for my own cars and Customer Cars' for over 20 yrs. and it's simply amazing how accurate they are. Er, not really - after all it IS a Lab doing their job. LOL !! Seriously tho, Analysis is a GREAT P. M. "tool" and should be done by EVERY, I repeat, EVERY car Owner at each Oil/Filter Change [er, except racers - they change bearings or rebuild motors like the rest of us breathe ]. Ed From gmuttart at eastlink.ca Sat Mar 12 10:11:32 2011 From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:11:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> Message-ID: <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> Linda Jay and Leo have lots of experience here, and I echo their comments about spending lots of time pouring over materials and looking at other cars. To address your specific questions: 1. The cockpit trim piece that you refer to is covered above the dash, but nowhere else. I don't know anything about the correct colour for the material on the dash, seats, etc. 2. The light blue rubber mat is aftermarket Amco, as Jay said. You can still find these in black. 3. Transmission mat looks original. I've seen red and black, but not blue. I don't know whether the colour is correct. The original black one that I have (in rough shape) has a "collar" that goes around the gearshift housing, though, and I don't expect that the housing goes over it. I may be wrong about this, though. 4. As Jay said, the boot panels should be grey, and these likely are. 5. I believe that the cross members have Amco ridged aluminum caps on them. These were an aftermarket kit that can still be found. The Concours Standards are an interesting read even for those who don't have any interest in keeping their cars original. Geoff Muttart Nova Scotia ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 8:05:38 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 List, I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start my Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the seats is that normal? 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original but again clashes with the transmission mat. 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was aftermarket and they originally were empty. 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before the seats. Thanks, Linda From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sat Mar 12 10:11:27 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:11:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <00cf01cbe0d2$7d485f00$77d91d00$@qwest.net> References: <00cf01cbe0d2$7d485f00$77d91d00$@qwest.net> Message-ID: <00e801cbe0d8$85ee5d20$91cb1760$@net> BTW Linda... Speedwell Blue and Iris Blue are NOT the same color. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Herbert Miller Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:28 AM To: 'Linda Grunthaner'; 'Spridget list' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 Linda The following comments are based on my experience with my 1960 Bugeye, which I bought in 1964. The build date was 11 Sept. 1959. Ires blue with blue interior. 1. The trim piece above the dash was covered with dark blue vinyl as shown in the pictures. The other 3 pieces were not covered. I assume this was done to reduce glare. 2. My car had carpet installed before I bought it, however before I bought it, I had a ride in a white with red interior Bugeye owned by a friends older sister. That car had the original rubber interior mats. I don't think the original Bugeye had any carpet. I also believe that the rubber floor mats were the reason that so many Bugeye's have problems with rusted floor panels. Since my car had carpet installed early in its life, my floor panels are fine. 3. I suspect that the rubber mats have been painted with a less than pleasing color choice. 4. The panels inside the boot were light grey. 5. The metal covers over the cross member were a popular aftermarket item, as this a high wear area with either rubber mats or carpet. A couple of other comments. Small items, but with a buy it now price of $25,000, things should be right. *The original seats would have had light blue piping. *Contrary to the write up, the Bugeye was never equipped with 1" SU's, they used H1 SU's which are 1 1/8 inch. *Horn is not correct *Plastic cap on the clutch/brake MC. Should be metal. *I have never seen a exhaust pipe brace like that. *In the picture of the dash from the driver's side, the door seal should not be just cut off, but continue under the dash board trim piece where its termination is not visible. Same at the other end. *Door side pocket mounting is incorrect. *Windshield washer bottle is late model unit, which is too small, does not even fit the bracket. *Transmission tunnel mat should be over the shifter housing, not under it. $25,000 I don't think so. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:06 AM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # 320669636262 List, I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start my Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the seats is that normal? 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original but again clashes with the transmission mat. 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was aftermarket and they originally were empty. 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before the seats. Thanks, Linda *http://tinyurl.com/45zuse9 * Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hgmiller3 at qwest.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye at cebridge.net From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sat Mar 12 10:25:22 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:25:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement References: <457099AAF2074C1B8D2106B33BE08086@yourw92p4bhlzg> <4D7BA2ED.1020409@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <45555D42BC8A457891B524C973D58156@yourw92p4bhlzg> Ed, Thanks. Problems can really creep up on you with these old cars. You think they go on forever with routine maintenance but nothing lasts. I`m beginning to feel a little creaky myself. I used to regularly cut filters to see what was getting trapped but got away from doing that mainly because it is messy and I never found anything before. The MG has been with us from the start. As much part of the family as that cat on the window sill. Since I had the car so long, I tend to notice even small things out of the norm. The MG runs so darned well, except for that fast idle problem that I did fix, if I hadn`t seen the glitter in the oil last week, I wouldn`t have changed the filter this time and wouldn`t have inspected it if I did change it. I knew that fast idle business wasn`t doing the motor any good. The cam on the rear carb had somehow gotten around and I couldn`t choke without racing a cold engine. Even though I was cranking up the pressure before start, the oil is pretty thick in winter. Sure that hurt. A lot of the guys around here are just happy if they can get the cars on the road for the weekend. If you are going for longevity, oil analysis makes sense. The suggestions I am getting are very helpful. When I got my first Bugeye in 63, I knew nothing about keeping it up. Some 50 years later, pretty much making it up as I went along, I know next to nothing. After today, even more. Well, that`s progress... Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" To: "Bert Shirey" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement > Welcome back, Bert !!!!! > > << The particles in the filter are shiny, and they smooth to a shiny > residue rubbed between my fingers, rather than sharp and hard > like filings. >> > > OK, Step # 1 = Google or Yellow Pages and find a Lab that does > Motor Analysis and give them a ring to fine out if they are STILL > there AND still do Testing !! Most will SnailMail the "Kit" to you. > > Step # 2 = With Front End [or as I prefer, whole car] "in the air", > start & get to Operating Temp. - MANDATORY for a "good & > reliable Test". CLEAN around Drain Plug - SQUEAKY CLEAN !!!! > Out with Drain Plug and USING some type of pliers [to hold the > Test Container --- the "collection vial" DOES get VERY HOT !!! ] > get the "sample" from draining oil. Return car to normal state. > Step # 3 = Take/Mail Sample to Lab; [now this is IMPORTANT > part ] CROSS YOUR FINGERS - prayer can help here & WAIT ! > Step # 4 = Still waiting ?? Open mail or read fax or read > *.pdf or read eMail. > > The report will not only List the Chemical 'make-up of the oil > but tell you EXACTLY what is what and WHERE it comes from > including "very high level of copper which is coming from bearing > shell(s)." and similar !! Or Amount of water exceeds......! And so on. > > I have been recommending and DOING Lab Motor Oil Analysis > for my own cars and Customer Cars' for over 20 yrs. and it's > simply amazing how accurate they are. Er, not really - after all > it IS a Lab doing their job. LOL !! Seriously tho, Analysis is a > GREAT P. M. "tool" and should be done by EVERY, I repeat, EVERY > car Owner at each Oil/Filter Change [er, except racers - they > change bearings or rebuild motors like the rest of us breathe ]. > > Ed From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 12 10:42:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: <45555D42BC8A457891B524C973D58156@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <135038314.1805923.1299951729019.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Mark Twain said: "When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years." I wish I had listened more to mine.... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert Shirey" The suggestions I am getting are very helpful. When I got my first Bugeye in 63, I knew nothing about keeping it up. Some 50 years later, pretty much making it up as I went along, I know next to nothing. After today, even more. Well, that`s progress... From lmacy at mac.com Sat Mar 12 11:05:14 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We found the bolts Message-ID: <3665AA01-6518-4FE7-9A2C-A38E1F443A7A@mac.com> It's a pic I'll post later. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of photo.JPG] Larry Macy, Ph.D 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin Sent via iPhone From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 11:20:02 2011 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:20:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] South by Southwest In-Reply-To: <4D7B812E.8000706@cox.net> References: <1bd0c.6edae3c4.3aaccbd8@aol.com> <4D7B812E.8000706@cox.net> Message-ID: I'll be around for some of the events. I live just outside of Austin. A possible meet up spot would be a free show one of my neighbors, Tom Cochrane, will be performing with the other members of Red Rider. Yep, the same group that sang Lunatic Fringe and the guy who wrote and originally performed Life is a Highway. The show will be at the Blind Pig on Wednesday, March 16th at 9pm as part of the free RedGorilla Music Festival. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:20 AM, David Ambrose wrote: > Are any Spridgeteers attending South by Southwest in Austin? Maybe we could > meet up if we're not too exhausted from sessions and parties. ;-) > > Cheers, > Dave Ambrose From CAWS52803 at aol.com Sat Mar 12 11:37:11 2011 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:37:11 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Our Japanese Healey friend Message-ID: Hi Hiroshi Takemori, We have heard so much about the tsunami in Japan and are concerned about you and your family's safety. Please let us know how you are and if you suffered any injuries or damages. Hopefully not only you, but your 100 and Sprites escaped too. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC USA From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sat Mar 12 12:01:29 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:01:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement Message-ID: <359E939F500448CB9B866F9C8E1B10CA@yourw92p4bhlzg> Regarding Ron`s reply-- Do I read this to say that the #1 and #2 mains might be inspected or changed without pulling the engine. If so, then how would this be done? It`s been a long time, but I seem to recall that the mechanics in the shop where I worked got the lower main shells out by just dropping the cap.Then I think they used a small tool to somehow hold or push out the upper main shells as they turned the crank. Bert From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 12:02:10 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:02:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] South by Southwest In-Reply-To: <4D7B812E.8000706@cox.net> References: <1bd0c.6edae3c4.3aaccbd8@aol.com> <4D7B812E.8000706@cox.net> Message-ID: If you are there, be sure to catch the Band of Heathens show. Tell them Tequila Brad sent ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhHop1JaLXo On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:20 AM, David Ambrose wrote: > Are any Spridgeteers attending South by Southwest in Austin? Maybe we could > meet up if we're not too exhausted from sessions and parties. ;-) > > Cheers, > Dave Ambrose > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 12 12:22:58 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:22:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: <359E939F500448CB9B866F9C8E1B10CA@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <365086.87986.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Bert Shirey wrote: > Do I read this to say that the #1 > and #2 mains might be inspected or > changed without pulling the engine. If so, then how would > this be done? It`s Yes, as you say. It is a little tight getting a socket on #1 sometimes, but it'll go. Just nudge the upper bearing half with a toothpick or something softer than the crank journals (any piece of metal from Harbor Freight will do!). Ron From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 12 12:39:17 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: <365086.87986.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <569083762.1806892.1299958757328.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" Just nudge the upper bearing half with a toothpick or something softer than the crank journals (any piece of metal from Harbor Freight will do!). _______________________________________________ Ouch!! LOL -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From frog.aye at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 12:41:33 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:41:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: <365086.87986.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <359E939F500448CB9B866F9C8E1B10CA@yourw92p4bhlzg> <365086.87986.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is there not a 1/4-28 machine screw (or two) going through the front plate into the bearing cap on #1 main? I'm pretty certain there are two on my 1275. To get to them one must pull the timing gear from the front of the crank, not an easy operation with the engine in the car. Hal On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Bert Shirey wrote: > > > Do I read this to say that the #1 > > and #2 mains might be inspected or > > > changed without pulling the engine. If so, then how would > > this be done? It`s > Yes, as you say. It is a little tight getting a socket on #1 sometimes, but > it'll go. Just nudge the upper bearing half with a toothpick or something > softer than the crank journals (any piece of metal from Harbor Freight will > do!). > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sat Mar 12 13:04:05 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:04:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement References: <365086.87986.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6DA7536A21A94A91B669A99DD37C28FF@yourw92p4bhlzg> Ron and Guys, Thanks again. Ok, here is what I`m thinking before happy hour takes charge here and I change my mind: I was getting no noticable knocking, vibration, or oil pressure loss. The soft non-magnetic debris is likely bearing material. I don`t think this has been going very long. Depending on what I find in the pan, best case starting with #4, I`m going to replace the rod big-end bearings with the best I can find. Those are the most likely suspects. I`ll try pulling the #2 main for inspection. If that`s Ok, best advice that the other mains are likely good as well sounds fine to me. If not, I`ll have to think. Barring nothing else, I`ll clean out the sump and oil pump strainer and whatever else I can reach, put it back together. Change the oil frequently for a couple hundred easy miles and see what comes out. The oil analysis is a good idea, even for my daily drivers. Man, am I thankful for this list! Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: ; "Bert Shirey" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Bert Shirey wrote: > Do I read this to say that the #1 > and #2 mains might be inspected or > changed without pulling the engine. If so, then how would > this be done? It`s Yes, as you say. It is a little tight getting a socket on #1 sometimes, but it'll go. Just nudge the upper bearing half with a toothpick or something softer than the crank journals (any piece of metal from Harbor Freight will do!). Ron From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sat Mar 12 13:06:25 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:06:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Bearings Replacement Message-ID: <26C974FF1ED449CEA891E38C229E0CF7@yourw92p4bhlzg> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert Shirey" To: "Ron Soave" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement > Ron and Guys, > > Thanks again. Ok, here is what I`m thinking before happy hour takes charge > here and I change my mind: > > I was getting no noticable knocking, vibration, or oil pressure loss. > The soft non-magnetic debris is likely bearing material. I don`t think > this has been going very long. > > Depending on what I find in the pan, best case starting with #4, I`m > going to replace the rod big-end bearings with the best I can find. Those > are the most likely suspects. I`ll try pulling the #2 main for inspection. > If that`s Ok, best advice that the other mains are likely good as well > sounds fine to me. If not, I`ll have to think. > > Barring nothing else, I`ll clean out the sump and oil pump strainer > and whatever else I can reach, put it back together. Change the oil > frequently for a couple hundred easy miles and see what comes out. > > The oil analysis is a good idea, even for my daily drivers. > > Man, am I thankful for this list! > > Bert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Soave" > To: ; "Bert Shirey" > > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement > > > --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Bert Shirey wrote: >> Do I read this to say that the #1 >> and #2 mains might be inspected or >> changed without pulling the engine. If so, then how would >> this be done? It`s > > Yes, as you say. It is a little tight getting a socket on #1 sometimes, > but it'll go. Just nudge the upper bearing half with a toothpick or > something softer than the crank journals (any piece of metal from Harbor > Freight will do!). > > Ron From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 12 13:13:11 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:13:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: <6DA7536A21A94A91B669A99DD37C28FF@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <365086.87986.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6DA7536A21A94A91B669A99DD37C28FF@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <4D7BD3D7.6000805@justbrits.com> << The oil analysis is a good idea, >> Bert, SAVE yer self the GRIEF and do a kit in the car FIRST. Find out was is REALLY *what*. You very well might not have to screw with bearings !!! THAT would = Phew !!! << even for my daily drivers. >> Absolutely. An analysis will scare you with what it will tell you !! Me From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 14:44:19 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:44:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] We found the bolts In-Reply-To: <3665AA01-6518-4FE7-9A2C-A38E1F443A7A@mac.com> References: <3665AA01-6518-4FE7-9A2C-A38E1F443A7A@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks, guys!! Okay I got 3 of them and Frank was right (Why did I doubt him?). They are studs, not bolts. Dunno how I forgot that fact after undoing 2 of them! Got the one out from behind the tach today but my back gave out before I could get the one behind the speedo. Hoping the back will feel well enough tomorrow to get that last one out. What a cast iron bi*#h!!! Don't try this job when your back is all screwed up! I'm hiring a dwarf when I put the dash back on!! Have fun at the OSHIT! Wish I was there. Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > It's a pic I'll post later. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Mar 12 15:45:57 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:45:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We found the bolts In-Reply-To: References: <3665AA01-6518-4FE7-9A2C-A38E1F443A7A@mac.com> Message-ID: <4D7BF7A5.1020504@comcast.net> On 3/12/2011 4:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Thanks, guys!! Okay I got 3 of them and Frank was right (Why did I doubt > him?). They are studs, not bolts. Dunno how I forgot that fact after undoing > 2 of them! Got the one out from behind the tach today but my back gave out > before I could get the one behind the speedo. Hoping the back will feel > well enough tomorrow to get that last one out. What a cast iron bi*#h!!! > Don't try this job when your back is all screwed up! I'm hiring a dwarf > when I put the dash back on!! Have fun at the OSHIT! Wish I was there. > Having just dropped Macy's dash in about 30 minutes, Here is the attack plan. That nut behind the speedo, reach it from the right hand side. Do not try to get at it from the speedo hole or the left side, too hard to reach. 7/16 deep socket, 1/4 drive ratchet fits nicely, and reach in from where the radio console was, it's a piece of cake. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 17:10:20 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:10:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We found the bolts In-Reply-To: <4D7BF7A5.1020504@comcast.net> References: <3665AA01-6518-4FE7-9A2C-A38E1F443A7A@mac.com> <4D7BF7A5.1020504@comcast.net> Message-ID: I was there Larry's new body is really clean and solid ; ) Thought you would like that Larry. OSHIT is a great name I love it. Lin On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > On 3/12/2011 4:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Thanks, guys!! Okay I got 3 of them and Frank was right (Why did I doubt >> him?). They are studs, not bolts. Dunno how I forgot that fact after >> undoing >> 2 of them! Got the one out from behind the tach today but my back gave >> out >> before I could get the one behind the speedo. Hoping the back will feel >> well enough tomorrow to get that last one out. What a cast iron bi*#h!!! >> Don't try this job when your back is all screwed up! I'm hiring a dwarf >> when I put the dash back on!! Have fun at the OSHIT! Wish I was there. >> >> > Having just dropped Macy's dash in about 30 minutes, > Here is the attack plan. > That nut behind the speedo, reach it from the right hand side. Do not try > to get at it from the speedo hole or the left side, too hard to reach. > 7/16 deep socket, 1/4 drive ratchet fits nicely, and reach in from where > the radio console was, it's a piece of cake. > > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 17:21:14 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:21:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but question on sending money to Australia....Colin you out there? Message-ID: I am trying to send money to a book store in Austrailia and their book store doesn't have a link for credit cards so I faxed them my credit card info and they said they didn't get it. I ended up canceling the card which had no charges on it but still can't figure out how to buy this book which is for my freelance writer brother. I'm going to try and call them via my cell phone during the week but is there any other way? I am also having dificulty figuring out the address for snail mail see below. If anyone on the list is from Australia please contact me off the list. Linda PS This book is impossible to locate and this book store wants $50 with shipping the only other place is amazon for $160. Book: "The Collected Poems of John Forbes: 1970-1998" Book Store: Andras Berkes-Brandl Brandl & Schlesinger Pty Ltd PO Box 127 Blackheath NSW 2785 Ph (+612) 4787 5848 andras at brandl.com.au www.brandl.com.au From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 17:27:01 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:27:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Our Japanese Healey friend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes Hiroshi Takemori we are sending you our prayers be well. Linda On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:37 PM, wrote: > Hi Hiroshi Takemori, > > We have heard so much about the tsunami in Japan and are concerned about > you and your family's safety. Please let us know how you are and if you > suffered any injuries or damages. Hopefully not only you, but your 100 and > Sprites escaped too. > > Rudy Streng > Lenoir, NC USA > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 17:40:51 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:40:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but question on sending money to Australia....Colin you out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found Colin's address in my mailbox and forwarded him the message and asked if he could give me a hand perhaps I send him paypal and he sends them the money? Too bad they only take credit cards. I do not want to pay $160. for a book on poetry, now if it were a book on Spridgets it would not be that difficult ; ) Lin On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I am trying to send money to a book store in Austrailia and their book > store doesn't have a link for credit cards so I faxed them my credit card > info and they said they didn't get it. I ended up canceling the card which > had no charges on it but still can't figure out how to buy this book which > is for my freelance writer brother. I'm going to try and call them via my > cell phone during the week but is there any other way? I am also having > dificulty figuring out the address for snail mail see below. > > If anyone on the list is from Australia please contact me off the list. > Linda > PS This book is impossible to locate and this book store wants $50 with > shipping the only other place is amazon for $160. > > Book: "The Collected Poems of John Forbes: 1970-1998" > > Book Store: > Andras Berkes-Brandl > Brandl & Schlesinger Pty Ltd > PO Box 127 Blackheath NSW 2785 > Ph (+612) 4787 5848 > andras at brandl.com.au > www.brandl.com.au From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat Mar 12 21:14:31 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:14:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Replacement In-Reply-To: <359E939F500448CB9B866F9C8E1B10CA@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <359E939F500448CB9B866F9C8E1B10CA@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <4D7C44A7.6060100@tx.rr.com> Generally if you don't have rod knock and if your oil pressure is good with a good gauge, then the bearings should be doing fine for now. If you were racing the car then you might want to know that your bearings are in better shape. You could also switch to a thicker oil to help with this. If you are getting much bearing material flaking into the oil then eventually you would start to hear rod knock or you could see your oil pressure drop when the engine is hot and at low engine speeds. On most engines, once you pull the oil pan off then you have access to all of the bearings. (Sometimes the big battle is actually getting the pan off.) You should have easy access to all of the rod bearings. Once you pull the nuts/bolts from the bottom of the connecting rod then the rod cap and lower half of the bearing will come off, and you can move the crank and push the piston up to get more room to access the upper half of the bearing. You can wipe off the bearing and look at it, and feel of the crank journal to see if it is smooth or not. You can also buy some platigage and check the clearance between the bearing and the crank journal. You can't easily lower the crankshaft although that would be possible if you really had to, but you can pull off the main bearing caps and the lower half of the bearing should come off with it. You can inspect the bearing and the crank journal, and do the plastigage thing if you wish. On most engines it is simple to replace the bearings too. Most bearings have a tab that fits into a slot in the block, to keep the bearing from rotating. So with the main cap off the upper half of the bearing will rotate out one way but not the other. It is easy enough to use the new bearing shell to push out the old bearing shell, just get the tabs in the right place. We used contact cement to stick the gasket to the pan. This is to hold it in place, not actually seal it. It does the sealing on its own. In the old days we didn't have RTV but there were other sealers that could be used between the side pan gasket and the front and back gaskets. Now RTV would be the thing to use, just put a dab at the joint between the 2 gaskets then put the pan in place. > Do I read this to say that the #1 and #2 mains might be inspected or > changed without pulling the engine. If so, then how would this be done? It`s > been a long time, but I seem to recall that the mechanics in the shop where I > worked got the lower main shells out by just dropping the cap.Then I think > they used a small tool to somehow hold or push out the upper main shells as > they turned the crank. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 03:50:06 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 06:50:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but question on sending money to Australia....Colin you out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update, Colin tried them on the phone but they didn't answer probably closed for the weekend he will continue to try Sunday and then Monday. I think this is the best approach. Some asked about paypal and money exchange but they only take credit cards no paypal, checks money wire etc. I'll let you know how it goes, I still can't imagine that this book is unavailable anywhere but one copy in Australia and the other copy via Amazon but at triple the price. Lin On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I am trying to send money to a book store in Austrailia and their book > store doesn't have a link for credit cards so I faxed them my credit card > info and they said they didn't get it. I ended up canceling the card which > had no charges on it but still can't figure out how to buy this book which > is for my freelance writer brother. I'm going to try and call them via my > cell phone during the week but is there any other way? I am also having > dificulty figuring out the address for snail mail see below. > > If anyone on the list is from Australia please contact me off the list. > Linda > PS This book is impossible to locate and this book store wants $50 with > shipping the only other place is amazon for $160. > > Book: "The Collected Poems of John Forbes: 1970-1998" > > Book Store: > Andras Berkes-Brandl > Brandl & Schlesinger Pty Ltd > PO Box 127 Blackheath NSW 2785 > Ph (+612) 4787 5848 > andras at brandl.com.au > www.brandl.com.au From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 04:05:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:05:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> Message-ID: Thanks Geoff so the transmission mat is painted because they only made black and red? I can't find that book who wrote it and do you have the ISBN Concours Standards Lin On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Geoff Muttart wrote: > Linda > > Jay and Leo have lots of experience here, and I echo their comments about > spending lots of time pouring over materials and looking at other cars. > > To address your specific questions: > > 1. The cockpit trim piece that you refer to is covered above the dash, but > nowhere else. I don't know anything about the correct colour for the > material on the dash, seats, etc. > > 2. The light blue rubber mat is aftermarket Amco, as Jay said. You can > still find these in black. > > 3. Transmission mat looks original. I've seen red and black, but not > blue. > I don't know whether the colour is correct. The original black one that I > have (in rough shape) has a "collar" that goes around the gearshift > housing, > though, and I don't expect that the housing goes over it. I may be wrong > about this, though. > > 4. As Jay said, the boot panels should be grey, and these likely are. > > 5. I believe that the cross members have Amco ridged aluminum caps on > them. > These were an aftermarket kit that can still be found. > > The Concours Standards are an interesting read even for those who don't > have > any interest in keeping their cars original. > > Geoff Muttart > Nova Scotia > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 8:05:38 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # > 320669636262 > > List, > I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is > restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done > and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all > winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start > my > Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of > AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. > So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: > > 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. > 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the > seats is that normal? > 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original > but again clashes with the transmission mat. > 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was > aftermarket and they originally were empty. > 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before > the seats. > > Thanks, > Linda > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From gmuttart at eastlink.ca Sun Mar 13 05:27:03 2011 From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:27:03 -0300 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> Message-ID: Hi Lin I simply don't know what colours the transmission mat was made in. The Standards may say. I'm not sure who is responsible for distributing the Standards these days, but I'm sure that someone on the list will know. The Archives may reveal the source, too. Good luck! Geoff _____ From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] Sent: March 13, 2011 8:05 AM To: Geoff Muttart Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 Thanks Geoff so the transmission mat is painted because they only made black and red? I can't find that book who wrote it and do you have the ISBN Concours Standards Lin From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sun Mar 13 06:16:28 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:16:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but question on sending money to Australia....Colin you out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501cbe180$dd746f50$985d4df0$@net> Sure am glad I WAS able to reach them right after your initial post as I now own 1 of 2 available copies of this book. Have been trying to reach the Amazon seller to inquire about a reduced price but havent had much luck. Alter I own the Amazon book we can revist your complaints on pricing. Could you please respond with a list of the books you own on Sprites as we can possibly work out a trade:) I love Sprite books slightly more than rare collections of poetry which I typically have read to me while I work on my Sprites ROFLMAO!!! Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:50 AM To: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC but question on sending money to Australia....Colin you out there? Update, Colin tried them on the phone but they didn't answer probably closed for the weekend he will continue to try Sunday and then Monday. I think this is the best approach. Some asked about paypal and money exchange but they only take credit cards no paypal, checks money wire etc. I'll let you know how it goes, I still can't imagine that this book is unavailable anywhere but one copy in Australia and the other copy via Amazon but at triple the price. Lin On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I am trying to send money to a book store in Austrailia and their book > store doesn't have a link for credit cards so I faxed them my credit card > info and they said they didn't get it. I ended up canceling the card which > had no charges on it but still can't figure out how to buy this book which > is for my freelance writer brother. I'm going to try and call them via my > cell phone during the week but is there any other way? I am also having > dificulty figuring out the address for snail mail see below. > > If anyone on the list is from Australia please contact me off the list. > Linda > PS This book is impossible to locate and this book store wants $50 with > shipping the only other place is amazon for $160. > > Book: "The Collected Poems of John Forbes: 1970-1998" > > Book Store: > Andras Berkes-Brandl > Brandl & Schlesinger Pty Ltd > PO Box 127 Blackheath NSW 2785 > Ph (+612) 4787 5848 > andras at brandl.com.au > www.brandl.com.au Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sun Mar 13 06:24:13 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:24:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> Message-ID: <001601cbe181$f2393fa0$d6abbee0$@net> No Lin. You misunderstood Geoff. They also made Blue and green and clear. The clear ones are the ones that you commonly find available nowdays.... You have to look close to see them and are likely to miss them:) Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:05 AM To: Geoff Muttart Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 Thanks Geoff so the transmission mat is painted because they only made black and red? I can't find that book who wrote it and do you have the ISBN Concours Standards Lin On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Geoff Muttart wrote: > Linda > > Jay and Leo have lots of experience here, and I echo their comments about > spending lots of time pouring over materials and looking at other cars. > > To address your specific questions: > > 1. The cockpit trim piece that you refer to is covered above the dash, but > nowhere else. I don't know anything about the correct colour for the > material on the dash, seats, etc. > > 2. The light blue rubber mat is aftermarket Amco, as Jay said. You can > still find these in black. > > 3. Transmission mat looks original. I've seen red and black, but not > blue. > I don't know whether the colour is correct. The original black one that I > have (in rough shape) has a "collar" that goes around the gearshift > housing, > though, and I don't expect that the housing goes over it. I may be wrong > about this, though. > > 4. As Jay said, the boot panels should be grey, and these likely are. > > 5. I believe that the cross members have Amco ridged aluminum caps on > them. > These were an aftermarket kit that can still be found. > > The Concours Standards are an interesting read even for those who don't > have > any interest in keeping their cars original. > > Geoff Muttart > Nova Scotia > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 8:05:38 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay # > 320669636262 > > List, > I know this Bugeye listed on eBay # 320669636262 (See link below) is > restored and I am not ragging on the work actually I like what he has done > and if it were mine I'd slap a nice white hardtop on it and drive all > winter. But I am trying to gather as much info as possible before I start > my > Bugeye project so he are a few questions I'd like answered for the sake of > AH Sprite history not that I am going strictly original but I'll try to. > So can anyone tell me if the Speedwell/Iris Blue had: > > 1. Blue vinyl on dash trim? I thought Bugeyes were polished anodized. > 2. Light blue rubber mat? It is clearly original but it does flash with the > seats is that normal? > 3. Dark blue seats and rear boot short section of vinyl mat, looks original > but again clashes with the transmission mat. > 4. Light blue boot panels deep inside the boot, I thought that was > aftermarket and they originally were empty. > 5. Metal look, OUTER CROSS MEMBER SECTION located on the inside just before > the seats. > > Thanks, > Linda > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 13 07:56:07 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:56:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> Message-ID: <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> << *I'm not sure who is responsible for distributing the Standards these days, but I'm sure that someone on the list will know.* >> Open your "*Membership Book*" [from *AHCA*] and/or your "*Resource Book*" [from *AHCUSA*]. The chap that does Distribution name IS Listed !!! I believe the price is also there. I do NOT recall if there is an ISBN # or not. I doubt it. << The Archives may reveal the source, too. >> Yep Geoff, sure will !! Ed From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 08:02:49 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:02:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. Message-ID: List has anyone ever seen a 59 Iris blue Bugeye with a red dash possibly seats etc.? According to Puddle Jumper's site (pdljmpr) the 59 Iris Blue had a blue interior so I guess I answered my own question. I have a Bugeye vin number 7267 with long door handles like a 58, the interior has a red dash, red painted floors and shifter cover but a white exterior. Knowing what I know from reading here and via books the red shifter cover is supposed to be the same color as the body so one or both were changed. Now the paint is pealing off the rear fenders and shows light blue like the Iris blue. The PO said the car was a 59 but when he got a replacement title after loosing the old one they titled it 1960. According to the charts http://members.tripod.com/prev_pdljmpr/color.htm This true 59 may be originally an Iris blue (yes Speedwell was for the 58 with black interior) with a blue interior. Does anyone know where I can see the 59 blue on blue ? I just can't figure out the interior shades of blue. Thanks Linda From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 08:23:45 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:23:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1962 MK II Sprites did not come with rubber transmission mat see article..... Message-ID: List, According to this article below: http://www.austinhealeysprites.com/1962AustinHealeySpriteRoadTestPg2Dec.html My 62 Pink Sprite came from the factory with carpets. The 61 MK II pink sprite from Ohio and was traded for a motorcycle last year had the rubber transmission mat because it was a 61. Does this make sense? Lin From jfishbein at snet.net Sun Mar 13 08:53:41 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:53:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1962 MK II Sprites did not come with rubber transmission mat see article..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Without refreshing my memory from my factory documentation and other period info, your article focuses on an HAN7. HAN6 cars came with rubber interiors. And blue Sprites (Mk I) came with blue interiors. Generally speaking cars that had parts removed and interchanged through the years cannot be a reliable basis for originality. Jay -An iPhone communication- On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > According to this article below: > > http://www.austinhealeysprites.com/1962AustinHealeySpriteRoadTestPg2Dec.html > > My 62 Pink Sprite came from the factory with carpets. The 61 MK II pink > sprite from Ohio and was traded for a motorcycle last year had the rubber > transmission mat because it was a 61. Does this make sense? > Lin From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Sun Mar 13 09:20:20 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:20:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats Message-ID: Linda and all-- Let me get off the bearings a moment. Maybe contribute something. I haven`t been following this thread all along, but regarding the rubber mat question, Biff Jones who has from time to time posted here has a MK II Sprite with less than 2K miles! Believe me. I`ve seen it at our MGs of Baltimore Rocks show. Biff`s car is black with red rubber mats. I`m not certain but I think it is a 61. I`ve misplaced his contact information. Most people back in the day tossed the flimsy rubber mats, went to MG Mitten or Pep Boys and bought carpet.My first Bugeye was three years old and had carpet that was already well worn. The lady I got my current Bug from bought it new. She said she tossed the mats and couldn`t see why I would want them. Years ago I found a NOS tranny mat for the Bugeye. It was green. The mat. Bug is white. I understand most of the survivors are green. Rubber supposedly can`t be reliably dyed, but I found a coating used for rubber boats, Zodiacs, that permanently bonds to the rubber. The stuff was expensive and tricky to apply but looks like it did the job. So my mat is now black. For what it`s worth because I don`t put it in the car. The carpet looks better. Bert Shirey From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 09:38:17 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:38:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bert I know Biff's car and he should have the rubber mat as they were installed through the 61 production of the MK II. According to the article the in 62 they installed carpet from the factory. I don't think the Heritage certificate shows all the mat details or does it? Anyone have the mat & color on their certificate? Lin On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Bert Shirey wrote: > Linda and all-- > > Let me get off the bearings a moment. Maybe contribute something. I > haven`t been following this thread all along, but regarding the rubber mat > question, Biff Jones who has from time to time posted here has a MK II > Sprite > with less than 2K miles! Believe me. I`ve seen it at our MGs of Baltimore > Rocks show. Biff`s car is black with red rubber mats. I`m not certain but I > think it is a 61. > > I`ve misplaced his contact information. > > Most people back in the day tossed the flimsy rubber mats, went to MG > Mitten or Pep Boys and bought carpet.My first Bugeye was three years old > and > had carpet that was already well worn. > > The lady I got my current Bug from bought it new. She said she tossed > the > mats and couldn`t see why I would want them. > > Years ago I found a NOS tranny mat for the Bugeye. It was green. The > mat. > Bug is white. I understand most of the survivors are green. > > Rubber supposedly can`t be reliably dyed, but I found a coating used > for > rubber boats, Zodiacs, that permanently bonds to the rubber. The stuff was > expensive and tricky to apply but looks like it did the job. So my mat is > now > black. For what it`s worth because I don`t put it in the car. > > The carpet looks better. > > Bert Shirey > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 13 09:43:10 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:43:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1962 MK II Sprites did not come with rubber transmission mat see article..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D7CF41E.7020006@justbrits.com> << And blue Sprites (Mk I) came with blue interiors. >> Whilst I am not positive Jay, I think in the Little Healeys cars "could" be ordered from the Factory with "special" colours/trim ?!? I do KNOW it's true in the Big cars !! SO there might be a "perhaps" in Lin's Iris Blue car having a Red Interior !?! You mentioned to me the other day that Factory Sprite H.T.s were white, right ??? There IS a copy of a BMIHT Cert. for a Leaf Green Frogeye headed to Montreal, Can, that was dispatched with a BLACK H.T.!! The car IS running around in Cheeseland sporting a Guards Red Paint job [with Black Interior] that DOES STILL have the GREEN Rubber Floor Covers !!! I have had MY hands & eyes on them !!! The chap actually lived here in town. Got an offer one day for a 'swap' with money for a newer 911 and he jumped on it !! Car body was in FANTASTIC condition with zero rust I could find !! Ed PS: I did NOT know he was open to "moving it" or I would have her!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 13 09:54:14 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:54:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D7CF6B6.1040507@justbrits.com> << Anyone have the mat & color on their certificate? >> I have prolly had a couple hundred Certs in hand and I have never seen one that actually said "rubber", Lin !!! I would even doubt that any notes were made much less retained. Kinda like a Frogeye Bonnet - only applies to Frogeyes!! 'Course there are ALWAYS exceptions & anomalies !! Speaking of same [YOU wrote]: << ...had the rubber transmission mat because it was a 61. Does this make sense? >> Only thing wrong with above is wouldn't be "just" the tranny. LBCs vs "sense' ??? NO such animal !!! LOL !! Ed From jfishbein at snet.net Sun Mar 13 10:32:42 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:32:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1962 MK II Sprites did not come with rubber transmission mat see article..... In-Reply-To: <4D7CF41E.7020006@justbrits.com> References: <4D7CF41E.7020006@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <6BBDE4AB-CA74-437A-963E-5924C45337B8@snet.net> I didn't say they ONLY came in white. Hardtops were supplied black and white. Regarding your other comments, some subscribe to the notion that there were regular deviations in production. I don't. I believe in what can be documented through factory and period information. My interest in originality is how they left the factory. I have never had much interest in non-factory accessories. My interest in Concours has waned considerably over the years because people without an appreciation for it, like to make a sport out of criticizing it, some like to stretch the rules primarily to win a trophy, and others try to use condition and parts installed on non-original beaters as valid criteria for originality. If you just want to win prizes, enter a car in popularity, hand out beer, and glad-hand everybody. Or better yet, get a car that has no competition in it's class. If you have an interest in originality, get your hands on every period publication that even mentions the word Austin-Healey Sprite and start reading. Get factory parts books and note the change points. Observe unrestored original cars. One's interest in originality shouldn't be to win a trophy nor to own a car they would feel uncomfortable owning or driving. Regarding special ordering Sprites in different colors, I'll accept your "perhaps" if I see the original dealer and factory information confirming such. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT -An iPhone communication- On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" wrote: > << And blue Sprites (Mk I) came with blue interiors. >> > > Whilst I am not positive Jay, I think in the Little Healeys cars > "could" be ordered from the Factory with "special" > colours/trim ?!? I do KNOW it's true in the Big cars !! > > SO there might be a "perhaps" in Lin's Iris Blue car having a > Red Interior !?! > > You mentioned to me the other day that Factory Sprite H.T.s > were white, right ??? > > There IS a copy of a BMIHT Cert. for a Leaf Green Frogeye > headed to Montreal, Can, that was dispatched with a BLACK > H.T.!! From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Sun Mar 13 10:35:57 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. Message-ID: <725329.94277.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Linda, What does your Brit Heritage Certificate say about colour? From biffjones at verizon.net Sun Mar 13 11:08:58 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:08:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats References: Message-ID: <2D0920557D7F47009E8608B51B3C2398@dell1> Lin no the Heritage certificate only lists 'optional' equipment, The rubber mats were standard up until the 62 HAN-7's thats when they installed carpet vice rubber mats. Bert thanks for the complements. Biff From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Mar 13 11:35:55 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats In-Reply-To: <2D0920557D7F47009E8608B51B3C2398@dell1> Message-ID: <189648.98280.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> First carpet, then convertible tops and wind-up windows. And that boys and girls is how the Miata was born. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Biff Jones wrote: From: Biff Jones Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 2:08 PM Lin no the Heritage certificate only lists 'optional' equipment, The rubber mats were standard up until the 62 HAN-7's thats when they installed carpet vice rubber mats. Bert thanks for the complements. Biff _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Mar 13 13:08:57 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:08:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Mats In-Reply-To: <189648.98280.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > First carpet, then convertible tops and wind-up windows. Carpet's OK, as long as you stop there. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 12:49:38 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:49:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Hi All, I'm back on the Spridget List after being off for several years. The Concours standards for Sprites have not been updated in about a decade, while we do the Big Healey Concours Guidelines yearly. I'm currently working with two owners doing Concours restorations on Bugeyes, and my wife and I have a very original, very unmolested, 55K, 1960 Bugeye. We hope to update the Sprite Guidelines soon. Any inputs or suggestions on originality are appreciated. Also good photos. Our Bugeye was originally Nevada Beige but after a minor accident in '61 was poorly repaired and repainted red. It came with its all original interior to include original rubber mats, complete tool kit along with near perfect plastic tool and side curtain bag. Also, lots of very hard to find details to include the original helmeted battery cables, Bakelite battery tray (not restorable), braided fuel lines, and original fuel pump, which I just restored using a period (read quality, diaphragm rebuild kit from Australia.) I'm glad to answer (or at least try) any questions on Bugeye originality. If any one saw Martin MacGregor's tech session at conclave in San Diego, he used our Bugeye as an aid, since much of the interior is still original (the tattered rubber mats are now stored in a box.) Cheers, Curt Arndt Chairman, Austin Healey Concours Committee '55 BN1 ,'60 AN5 :{) '72 RWA Midget, '06 Cooper S ** For Concours Guidelines ordering and pricing information contact: *Mike Osipik* 39 East 55th Terrace Kansas City, MO 64113 USA Phone: (816) 333-2506 mikeosipik at earthlink.net On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << *I'm not sure who is responsible for distributing the > Standards these days, but I'm sure that someone on > the list will know.* >> > > Open your "*Membership Book*" [from *AHCA*] and/or > your "*Resource Book*" [from *AHCUSA*]. > The chap that does Distribution name IS Listed !!! > I believe the price is also there. I do NOT recall > if there is an ISBN # or not. I doubt it. > > << The Archives may reveal the source, too. >> > > Yep Geoff, sure will !! > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of 2009 AH Concours Order Form.pdf] From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Mar 13 13:59:44 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:59:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net><1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY><4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> Pleased to hear that a new concours standard is going to be available soonish. Helmet bat caps are available by the way. Sure hope you let the BE folks have a crack at the standards before you go to press. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: "Shop at Just Brits" Cc: "Spridgets" ; "Geoff Muttart" Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 > Hi All, > > I'm back on the Spridget List after being off for several years. > > The Concours standards for Sprites have not been updated in about a > decade, > while we do the Big Healey Concours Guidelines yearly. I'm currently > working with two owners doing Concours restorations on Bugeyes, and my > wife > and I have a very original, very unmolested, 55K, 1960 Bugeye. We hope to > update the Sprite Guidelines soon. Any inputs or suggestions on > originality > are appreciated. Also good photos. > > Our Bugeye was originally Nevada Beige but after a minor accident in '61 > was poorly repaired and repainted red. It came with its all original > interior to include original rubber mats, complete tool kit along with > near > perfect plastic tool and side curtain bag. Also, lots of very hard to > find > details to include the original helmeted battery cables, Bakelite battery > tray (not restorable), braided fuel lines, and original fuel pump, which I > just restored using a period (read quality, diaphragm rebuild kit from > Australia.) I'm glad to answer (or at least try) any questions on Bugeye > originality. > > If any one saw Martin MacGregor's tech session at conclave in San Diego, > he > used our Bugeye as an aid, since much of the interior is still original > (the > tattered rubber mats are now stored in a box.) > > Cheers, > > Curt Arndt > Chairman, Austin Healey Concours Committee > '55 BN1 ,'60 AN5 :{) '72 RWA Midget, '06 Cooper S > > ** For Concours Guidelines ordering and pricing > information contact: > > *Mike Osipik* > > 39 East 55th Terrace > > Kansas City, MO 64113 USA > > Phone: (816) 333-2506 > > mikeosipik at earthlink.net > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " > wrote: > >> << *I'm not sure who is responsible for distributing the >> Standards these days, but I'm sure that someone on >> the list will know.* >> >> >> Open your "*Membership Book*" [from *AHCA*] and/or >> your "*Resource Book*" [from *AHCUSA*]. >> The chap that does Distribution name IS Listed !!! >> I believe the price is also there. I do NOT recall >> if there is an ISBN # or not. I doubt it. >> >> << The Archives may reveal the source, too. >> >> >> Yep Geoff, sure will !! >> >> Ed >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a > name of 2009 AH Concours Order Form.pdf] > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3504 - Release Date: 03/13/11 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 15:45:42 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:45:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> Message-ID: I was going to say that Mike Osipik with the Kansas City AHCA club was working on the standards, but Curt beat me to it. If list members will recall, Mike put out a call via the lists about 2 years ago asking for input from BE owners and listers. I passed that on to everyone I knew at the time. I'm sure he would welcome information from all the BE owners. Mike owns a mostly original BE himself and was with us at LotO in 2008. You and Leo probably talked with him, Jack. Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Pleased to hear that a new concours standard is going to be available > soonish. Helmet bat caps are available by the way. > > Sure hope you let the BE folks have a crack at the standards before you go > to press. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" > To: "Shop at Just Brits" > Cc: "Spridgets" ; "Geoff Muttart" < > gmuttart at eastlink.ca> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see > eBay# 320669636262 > > > Hi All, >> >> I'm back on the Spridget List after being off for several years. >> >> The Concours standards for Sprites have not been updated in about a >> decade, >> while we do the Big Healey Concours Guidelines yearly. I'm currently >> working with two owners doing Concours restorations on Bugeyes, and my >> wife >> and I have a very original, very unmolested, 55K, 1960 Bugeye. We hope to >> update the Sprite Guidelines soon. Any inputs or suggestions on >> originality >> are appreciated. Also good photos. >> >> Our Bugeye was originally Nevada Beige but after a minor accident in '61 >> was poorly repaired and repainted red. It came with its all original >> interior to include original rubber mats, complete tool kit along with >> near >> perfect plastic tool and side curtain bag. Also, lots of very hard to >> find >> details to include the original helmeted battery cables, Bakelite battery >> tray (not restorable), braided fuel lines, and original fuel pump, which I >> just restored using a period (read quality, diaphragm rebuild kit from >> Australia.) I'm glad to answer (or at least try) any questions on Bugeye >> originality. >> >> If any one saw Martin MacGregor's tech session at conclave in San Diego, >> he >> used our Bugeye as an aid, since much of the interior is still original >> (the >> tattered rubber mats are now stored in a box.) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Curt Arndt >> Chairman, Austin Healey Concours Committee >> '55 BN1 ,'60 AN5 :{) '72 RWA Midget, '06 Cooper S >> >> ** For Concours Guidelines ordering and pricing >> information contact: >> >> *Mike Osipik* >> >> 39 East 55th Terrace >> >> Kansas City, MO 64113 USA >> >> Phone: <%28816%29%20333-2506>(816) 333-2506 >> >> mikeosipik at earthlink.net >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " >> wrote: >> >> << *I'm not sure who is responsible for distributing the >>> Standards these days, but I'm sure that someone on >>> the list will know.* >> >>> >>> Open your "*Membership Book*" [from *AHCA*] and/or >>> your "*Resource Book*" [from *AHCUSA*]. >>> The chap that does Distribution name IS Listed !!! >>> I believe the price is also there. I do NOT recall >>> if there is an ISBN # or not. I doubt it. >>> >>> << The Archives may reveal the source, too. >> >>> >>> Yep Geoff, sure will !! >>> >>> Ed From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Mar 13 20:22:04 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:22:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 water pump Message-ID: <005301cbe1f7$00b08050$021180f0$@net> Other than the obvious, one is steel and one is aluminum, is there a difference between the cast iron pump and the aluminum? Does one provide better cooling than the other as in move more water? The pumps are the same for all the motors aren't they? Any way to test the pump before installation? Have an NOS cast iron one and was wondering about its reliability versus a brand new modern built replacement pump from VB Thanks Leo From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 13 20:29:12 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <477919.31594.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Linda, My 2 cents worth is that you don't need to sweat the colors. It's your car, make it whatever pleases you. (unless of course correct is what you REALLY want, then go for it) As for me, I could care less whether anybody else approves or thinks it didn't come that way. Many (most?) British sportscars got their first upgrades / tweaks / stripes / etc. during the first free weekend night after they were brought home new. I would imagine lots more received their first repairs pretty soon after that - or at least soon after the first track event they attended... To me, the main draw of these cars is that you can easily and inexpensively tailor them to your own personal taste and then actually enjoy driving them. Besides - how much more is a perfectly-restored and absolutely correct example worth than one that is just as nice, but non-stock? Unless it also happens to be some super low mile time-machine example or something with serious race history, not much. - David Booker Long Island ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 11:02:49 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. List has anyone ever seen a 59 Iris blue Bugeye with a red dash possibly seats etc.? According to Puddle Jumper's site (pdljmpr) the 59 Iris Blue had a blue interior so I guess I answered my own question. I have a Bugeye vin number 7267 with long door handles like a 58, the interior has a red dash, red painted floors and shifter cover but a white exterior. Knowing what I know from reading here and via books the red shifter cover is supposed to be the same color as the body so one or both were changed. Now the paint is pealing off the rear fenders and shows light blue like the Iris blue. The PO said the car was a 59 but when he got a replacement title after loosing the old one they titled it 1960. According to the charts http://members.tripod.com/prev_pdljmpr/color.htm This true 59 may be originally an Iris blue (yes Speedwell was for the 58 with black interior) with a blue interior. Does anyone know where I can see the 59 blue on blue ? I just can't figure out the interior shades of blue. Thanks Linda _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Mar 13 20:34:01 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 03:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: <477919.31594.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <204948122.1820732.1300073641058.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The wonderful thing about 'standards' is that there are so many of them. And it depends on who writes them. Try looking up the "standard" for RS232. Last count there were 42 'standards' for the same interface, all different! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 13 21:43:07 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:43:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net><1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY><4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com><6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> Message-ID: <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> << ( Healeys and Austin - Healeys page 181to prove it, even though most folks say body color. >> *So you are professing ONE[1] picture is gospel, died in the wool & proof positive, Jack ?? Would you bet your life on it ??* *Would you bet your car on it ?? To me, positive would be original cars of which there ARE examples. To me, discussions with DMH & son Geoff would be good for 99.99%. To common sense after seeing British assembly line picture*S* would offer proof of methods and lend credence to many, many recollections of folks that actually WORKED at the various plants. Do John Sprinzel ring a bell?? Does John Wheatley ring a bell ?? *<< They were obviously made by a vendor and painted by him before ever seeing the factory. >> Agreed BUT, you have proof positive that the hinges were NOT painted car colour after delivery ??? I doubt it . I am NOT saying either one is correct, just what the Committee must go thru inorder to reach a "Standard". The Committees do NOT just sit around imbibing fine brews & cocktails, flipping a coin and "Dats it." !!! More WORK and RESEARCH has been done to reach what we have now than you could ever imagine !!! And keep in mind that for the past thirty [30] plus years all those MAN HOURS are VOLUNTEER HOURS. I was not only present at the FIRST Delegate Meeting at which the idea was even broached, but IIRC "moved" that the AHCA donate some MEAGER funds for them to proceed and come up with publishable "Standards" for both classes of A-Hs. I have followed their work, professed my admiration of it, THANKED them for it, and was even a Judge [volunteer job again] for Big Healey Sports Convertibles. What have YOU "volunteered" for lately ?? I have just checked both AHCA & AHCUSA book and do not find your name [with car & wife]. So you don't have enough "feelings" for the Marque to join a Club/Chapter and volunteer your time and knowledge and talents ?? Why not ?? But you DO want all those folks and the non-Members so take ONE [1] picture [that has been printed how many times??] as "proof". Not in my book, sorry. Ed **Founding** *Member* & *Delegate* [& Past-Pres, Past-V.P.] - ILLINI Chapter - AHCA [35+ years] *Member & Tech Contact*, AHCUSA & Pacific Member] - not sure how long. *Caretaker* - '63 A-H 3000 Mk. II BJ-7 Sports Convertible {Hortense THE Healey] for 33+ years. PS: Traveling by myself, have been to FL. WHERE have you DRIVEN your Frogeye [Miss Agatha] ?? From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 13 21:56:42 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:56:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: <204948122.1820732.1300073641058.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <204948122.1820732.1300073641058.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D7DA00A.1070809@justbrits.com> << Last count there were 42 'standards' for the same interface, all different! >> That is NO different than defining a paint colour, David !! And by paint, I am including Engine with Body, Hood Bows, etc.. Fer instance it would be "possible" for a Car Body and a Shifter Cover to actually NOT be exactly alike PERFECTLY, right ?? The Black for Battery Hold-down Bar to differ by shades to the Dash Bracket. Ergo, The Standards . "Shade" diff is not necessarily going to rec'v a Deduction unless plain as the nose on your face. TWO [2] Iris Blue cars are NOT and never have been [since inception of The Standards] judged against each other !! EACH car is judged to The Standards which have been agreed upon by a number of VOLUNTEER folks over the years. It has NOT been, I can assure you, an easy task !! Personally, I THANK every one of them, Active or Retired. Ed From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 22:57:51 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:57:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Ah! Tactful and diplomatic as always eh, Ed? Jack is a really nice guy. You need to slack off a bit. I didn't see you offering Mike Osipik info on his effort to revise the standard but you certainly are willing to verbally trash everyone else who offered their thoughts. Why don't YOU write the standard? Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << ( Healeys and Austin - Healeys page 181to prove it, even though most > folks say body color. >> > > *So you are professing ONE[1] picture is gospel, died in the wool > & proof positive, Jack ?? Would you bet your life on it ??* > *Would you bet your car on it ?? > > To me, positive would be original cars of which there ARE examples. > To me, discussions with DMH & son Geoff would be good for 99.99%. > To common sense after seeing British assembly line picture*S* > would offer proof of methods and lend credence to many, many > recollections of folks that actually WORKED at the various plants. > Do John Sprinzel ring a bell?? Does John Wheatley ring a bell ?? > > *<< They were obviously made by a vendor and painted by him before ever > seeing the factory. >> > > Agreed BUT, you have proof positive that the hinges were NOT > painted car colour after delivery ??? I doubt it . > > I am NOT saying either one is correct, just what the Committee > must go thru inorder to reach a "Standard". > > The Committees do NOT just sit around imbibing fine brews & > cocktails, flipping a coin and "Dats it." !!! More WORK and > RESEARCH has been done to reach what we have now than you > could ever imagine !!! And keep in mind that for the past thirty > [30] plus years all those MAN HOURS are VOLUNTEER HOURS. > > I was not only present at the FIRST Delegate Meeting at which > the idea was even broached, but IIRC "moved" that the AHCA > donate some MEAGER funds for them to proceed and come up > with publishable "Standards" for both classes of A-Hs. I have > followed their work, professed my admiration of it, THANKED > them for it, and was even a Judge [volunteer job again] for > Big Healey Sports Convertibles. > What have YOU "volunteered" for lately ?? I have just > checked both AHCA & AHCUSA book and do not find your name > [with car & wife]. So you don't have enough "feelings" for the > Marque to join a Club/Chapter and volunteer your time and > knowledge and talents ?? Why not ?? > > But you DO want all those folks and the non-Members so take > ONE [1] picture [that has been printed how many times??] as > "proof". > > Not in my book, sorry. > > Ed > **Founding** *Member* & *Delegate* [& Past-Pres, Past-V.P.] - > ILLINI Chapter - AHCA [35+ years] > *Member & Tech Contact*, AHCUSA & Pacific Member] - > not sure how long. > *Caretaker* - '63 A-H 3000 Mk. II BJ-7 Sports Convertible > {Hortense THE Healey] for 33+ years. > > PS: Traveling by myself, have been to FL. WHERE have you > DRIVEN your Frogeye [Miss Agatha] ?? From grday at btinternet.com Mon Mar 14 02:39:17 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:39:17 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but question on sending money to Australia....Colin you out there? References: Message-ID: Lin, http://tiny.cc/8qjjn or http://www.fishpond.com.au/product_info.php?ref=306&id=9781876040277&affiliate_banner_id=1 will take you through another couple of pages to: http://tiny.cc/xnv2j or https://www.fishpond.com.au/checkout.php?checkout=true The latter link is the credit card checkout page for the book company. Note the checkout page is secure. But you will have to go from the first link to get the right book. Using the ISBN there were 6 places selling the book, only Brandl & Schlesinger had it in stock and new. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 12:21 AM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but question on sending money to Australia....Colin you out there? >I am trying to send money to a book store in Austrailia and their book >store > doesn't have a link for credit cards so I faxed them my credit card info > and > they said they didn't get it. I ended up canceling the card which had no > charges on it but still can't figure out how to buy this book which is for > my freelance writer brother. I'm going to try and call them via my cell > phone during the week but is there any other way? I am also having > dificulty > figuring out the address for snail mail see below. > > If anyone on the list is from Australia please contact me off the list. > Linda > PS This book is impossible to locate and this book store wants $50 with > shipping the only other place is amazon for $160. > > Book: "The Collected Poems of John Forbes: 1970-1998" > > Book Store: > Andras Berkes-Brandl > Brandl & Schlesinger Pty Ltd > PO Box 127 Blackheath NSW 2785 > Ph (+612) 4787 5848 > andras at brandl.com.au > www.brandl.com.au > _______________________________________________ From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 04:53:49 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:53:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed Message-ID: I have Qwest DSL...and it sucks!!! Using www.speedtest.net here's what I just got. Keep in mind it 4:45 in the morning here in Oregon. Shouldn't be a lot of 'traffic', right?!? Pings: 92 Download Speed: .88 Upload Speed: .50 I'm thinking seriously about going with cable. What are you getting and what type connection do you have? Herb -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon Mar 14 05:28:34 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 05:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 water pump In-Reply-To: <005301cbe1f7$00b08050$021180f0$@net> Message-ID: <874279.34049.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I believe the only difference of any importance is which impeller it has. There is the steel sheet metal impeller with bent tabs, and there is a cast impellor that is deeper and has curved blades which provides a higher flow rate. I can't give any application info for this pump, but it was a must have for our race engines. You must always check to see that the larger impeller will fit and turn in the block during assembly, and sometimes we would have to provide some additonal clearance for it. A used pump should have no play, no bearing noise, and have a slight resistance to turning if the seal is good. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: From: Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 water pump To: "'Spridgets'" Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 11:22 PM Other than the obvious, one is steel and one is aluminum, is there a difference between the cast iron pump and the aluminum? Does one provide better cooling than the other as in move more water? The pumps are the same for all the motors aren't they? Any way to test the pump before installation? Have an NOS cast iron one and was wondering about its reliability versus a brand new modern built replacement pump from VB Thanks Leo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/fastvee at yahoo.com From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Mar 14 05:51:44 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 05:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <755574097.20110314055144@pacifier.com> Hello WFO, Also QWest DSL, but I live about two and half miles from a central office. Ping 64 ms Up, 2.63Mbps Down, .37 Mpbs. Cable IS faster but I won't let Comcast have any of my money if I can avoid it. .. and I can. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" I'm all for computer dating, but I wouldn't want one to marry my sister. From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Mar 14 06:00:36 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:00:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net><1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY><4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com><6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal><9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> In addition, the frame comming from under the radiator is black as well. (same reference) maybe they came several ways. As I am not as old as you, only 72 last sept., I was not at the factory to see how each was done. Ed I have no clue as to what is upseting you today but you best get over it. It is not becoming for a gentleman of your advanced years. > << ( Healeys and Austin - Healeys page 181to prove it, even though most > folks say body color. >> > > *So you are professing ONE[1] picture is gospel, died in the wool > & proof positive, Jack ?? Would you bet your life on it ??* > *Would you bet your car on it ?? > > To me, positive would be original cars of which there ARE examples. > To me, discussions with DMH & son Geoff would be good for 99.99%. > To common sense after seeing British assembly line picture*S* > would offer proof of methods and lend credence to many, many > recollections of folks that actually WORKED at the various plants. > Do John Sprinzel ring a bell?? Does John Wheatley ring a bell ?? > > *<< They were obviously made by a vendor and painted by him before ever > seeing the factory. >> > > Agreed BUT, you have proof positive that the hinges were NOT > painted car colour after delivery ??? I doubt it . > > I am NOT saying either one is correct, just what the Committee > must go thru inorder to reach a "Standard". > > The Committees do NOT just sit around imbibing fine brews & > cocktails, flipping a coin and "Dats it." !!! More WORK and > RESEARCH has been done to reach what we have now than you > could ever imagine !!! And keep in mind that for the past thirty > [30] plus years all those MAN HOURS are VOLUNTEER HOURS. > > I was not only present at the FIRST Delegate Meeting at which > the idea was even broached, but IIRC "moved" that the AHCA > donate some MEAGER funds for them to proceed and come up > with publishable "Standards" for both classes of A-Hs. I have > followed their work, professed my admiration of it, THANKED > them for it, and was even a Judge [volunteer job again] for > Big Healey Sports Convertibles. > What have YOU "volunteered" for lately ?? I have just > checked both AHCA & AHCUSA book and do not find your name > [with car & wife]. So you don't have enough "feelings" for the > Marque to join a Club/Chapter and volunteer your time and > knowledge and talents ?? Why not ?? > > But you DO want all those folks and the non-Members so take > ONE [1] picture [that has been printed how many times??] as > "proof". > > Not in my book, sorry. > > Ed > **Founding** *Member* & *Delegate* [& Past-Pres, Past-V.P.] - > ILLINI Chapter - AHCA [35+ years] > *Member & Tech Contact*, AHCUSA & Pacific Member] - > not sure how long. > *Caretaker* - '63 A-H 3000 Mk. II BJ-7 Sports Convertible > {Hortense THE Healey] for 33+ years. > > PS: Traveling by myself, have been to FL. WHERE have you > DRIVEN your Frogeye [Miss Agatha] ?? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3506 - Release Date: 03/14/11 From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 06:03:59 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:03:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 water pump In-Reply-To: <005301cbe1f7$00b08050$021180f0$@net> References: <005301cbe1f7$00b08050$021180f0$@net> Message-ID: Are these rebuildable? -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Other than the obvious, one is steel and one is aluminum, is there a > difference between the cast iron pump and the aluminum? Does one provide > better cooling than the other as in move more water? The pumps are the > same > for all the motors aren't they? > > > > Any way to test the pump before installation? Have an NOS cast iron one > and > was wondering about its reliability versus a brand new modern built > replacement pump from VB > > > > Thanks > > Leo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Mon Mar 14 06:28:06 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:28:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 46, Issue 37 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > 1. Re: Rubber Mats (Billy Zoom) > 2. Re: Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay#> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > My 1958 frogeye is iris blue with a red dashboard and seats with white piping & black rubber mats also with long door handles etc But if I scratch the paint off near the door hinges and rear suspension hanger it looks like it was originally very dark green. Oh! and the 2 blade fan is and was originally painted red. However A car known as and built for a foremans friend  could, I gather, get what he wanted built into his car i.e. car built using standard parts available on the assembly line - but creating a non standard car. (i.e. not a publicly advertised retail stock car) From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Mon Mar 14 07:17:57 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:17:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net><1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY><4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com><6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal><9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> Message-ID: <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> I don't want to get into the semantics of a he said, they said argument and nor do I want to choose sides in this conversation but why not approach it from a logic perspective. As far as the frame member under the radiator does it make more economical sense for a manufacturer to paint an area under a component after the component is installed or before? I would argue that the area was painted before . Which brings us to the next question , did the manufacturer mask off and paint a second color over the original color which means he had to pay the labor to mask off the surrounding metalwork. I think not!!! Is it possible there is a high instance of where paint got on the cross member when an owner refreshed the radiator paint.. much more likely. Have learned a little investigative logic goes a long way lots of times. That said I would argue that, as the standards state, that the frame rail is painted body color. Leo In addition, the frame comming from under the radiator is black as well. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 07:55:10 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:55:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 46, Issue 37 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:28 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote: >> > A car known as and built for a foremans friend  could, I gather, > get what he wanted built into his car i.e. car built using standard > parts available on the assembly line - but creating a non standard > car. (i.e. not a publicly advertised retail stock car) Back in the day, I had a friend who's father worked for Chevy. His father wanted a Camaro with a larger (Corvette) engine than they were currently putting in the Camaro so he had one built directly on the line by cutting a "custom build ticket". He kept the build ticket and window sticker to prove the car came directly from the line. In 1965, my father ordered a custom painted ford pickup from the factory. He waited almost a year for it to come in but he got it the way he wanted it. It was painted a non-truck color. He had seen a car in the show room he liked and asked the owner of the Ford dealership if the truck could be painted that color. The owner was a "drinking buddy" of my father's and he ordered the truck for him. It was a three-on-the-tree with no extras. No AC, no radio, no carpet, no nothin'.... I learned to drive stick on that truck ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa. From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 14 08:22:25 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <237743601.1825761.1300116005492.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1367463301.1825826.1300116145085.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Herb.. Ping: 83 msec NOTE!!! That is the test ping'ing their chosen server... Ping'ing www.goggle.com gets me a consistent 32ms !! Down: 1.5 Up: .32 Frontier DSL (aka Verizon!) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" What are you getting and what type connection do you have? From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 14 08:37:29 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <938139490.1826132.1300117049698.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> It's not me... It's my fat fingers :-o Sorry Herb... Thanks David.. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Dave KK7SS" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:34:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed > That is the test ping'ing their chosen server... > Ping'ing www.goggle.com gets me a consistent 32ms !! But the test tries to pick a suitable server... And you know what happens when you ask a computer to make decisions! I think I would rather ping google.com rather than goggle.com ;-) David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 08:50:00 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Pings: 92 > Download Speed: .88 > Upload Speed: .50 I use cable from Wide Open West (wowway.com). My results on that page were: Ping: 17ms Download Speed: 14.17Mbps Upload Speed: 1.11Mbps David L From biffjones at verizon.net Mon Mar 14 09:01:40 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:01:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed References: Message-ID: I use Verizon FIOS and my results were: Ping 10 ms Down 18.16 mbps Up 9.33 mpbs Biff From millerls at ado13.com Mon Mar 14 09:26:25 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:26:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF1EAA3-3480-492A-A354-07B3460A69FB@ado13.com> Comcast cable over an in-house wifi network 13 ms ping 20.99 mbps down 4.12 mbps up From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Mar 14 10:42:53 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:42:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <4DF1EAA3-3480-492A-A354-07B3460A69FB@ado13.com> Message-ID: What's a "ping"? Do I need one? From biffjones at verizon.net Mon Mar 14 10:40:42 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:40:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed References: Message-ID: <99AF96FDA25E4B8AAC08E07B36007C5E@dell1> Only if you have a "pong". From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 10:46:02 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:46:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <99AF96FDA25E4B8AAC08E07B36007C5E@dell1> References: <99AF96FDA25E4B8AAC08E07B36007C5E@dell1> Message-ID: >> What's a "ping"? Do I need one? > Only if you have a "pong". Are you saying that what he really needs is a bing? David L From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Mar 14 10:47:42 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <807507.72360.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> 29 11.50 .79 Using ATT Uverse fiber optics. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer --- On Mon, 3/14/11, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Pings: 92 > Download Speed: .88 > Upload Speed: .50 I use cable from Wide Open West (wowway.com). My results on that page were: Ping: 17ms Download Speed: 14.17Mbps Upload Speed: 1.11Mbps David L From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 10:58:23 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:58:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed Message-ID: Ping: 5 ms Download Speed: 65.67 Mbps Upload Speed: 29.87 Mbps This is at work, since that's where I am. Rick (that's not so fast...) Bastedo From: WFO Herb Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:53:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed I have Qwest DSL...and it sucks!!! Using www.speedtest.net here's what I just got. Keep in mind it 4:45 in the morning here in Oregon. Shouldn't be a lot of 'traffic', right?!? Pings: 92 Download Speed: .88 Upload Speed: .50 I'm thinking seriously about going with cable. What are you getting and what type connection do you have? Herb From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon Mar 14 13:14:26 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:14:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> from work: ping: 13ms download 15.2 mbps upload 1.85 mbps From pfeilmat at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 13:39:02 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:39:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> References: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> Message-ID: <8D707283-73CA-467C-B113-409BC6A731C8@gmail.com> >From home on a wireless network: download 1.31 M/bs upload .32 M/bs ping 27 ms grade F+ Slower than 87% or all US users! YAY! Matt P On Mar 14, 2011, at 1:14 PM, wrote: > from work: > > ping: 13ms > download 15.2 mbps > upload 1.85 mbps > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From rich_ball at mindspring.com Mon Mar 14 13:40:14 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:40:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Unusual LBC Project Message-ID: <4935FB5BC0CE46BF973A9FFB90D122E6@psych.washington.edu> Here's an odd little LBC project if anyone's looking. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2264584164.html Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From lmacy at mac.com Mon Mar 14 13:43:58 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:43:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> References: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> Message-ID: >From Office (in hospital, behind firewall.l) 7ms ping 17.11 Mbps download 72.98 Mbps upload On Mar 14, 2011, at 16:14 PM, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote: > from work: > > ping: 13ms > download 15.2 mbps > upload 1.85 mbps > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it" --- Groucho Marx From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Mar 14 13:58:03 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <34111.51157.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is officially the worst thread ever. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Mar 14 15:14:35 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:14:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net><1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY><4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com><6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal><9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> Message-ID: <4D7E934B.1000809@comcast.net> On 3/14/2011 10:17 AM, cathey speichinger wrote: > That said I would argue that, as the standards state, that the frame > rail is painted body color. > > Agreed Leo, and you make a good point about black overspray if they did paint the parts on the car. I know the frame rails were body color for sure, at least body color first then maybe black overspray. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon Mar 14 15:57:01 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:57:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> References: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> Message-ID: <4D7E9D3D.1030601@tx.rr.com> and now from home: 37 ms 15.3 mbps 0.48 mbps > from work: > > ping: 13ms > download 15.2 mbps > upload 1.85 mbps > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bjshov8 at tx.rr.com > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3507 - Release Date: 03/14/11 14:34:00 From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Mar 14 16:03:20 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:03:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net><1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY><4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com><6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal><9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> Message-ID: <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> Leo, I can not even think why these are black I have never seen any other than car color. However, my 1960 BE one year old when I got it had black hood hinges. No fooling. You know, thinking about it I would supose that bonnets and bodys were painted before mateing them. But then what do I know, maybe some were body color and some were black. I expect that the frame horns black is an aberation, In fact in that pic on page 181 I see other things that are not correct as we know it. Maybe someone slipped us a sneeky one. Happens. Guess that is why an orginal documented car is worth so much. >I don't want to get into the semantics of a he said, they said argument and > nor do I want to choose sides in this conversation but why not approach it > from a logic perspective. As far as the frame member under the radiator > does it make more economical sense for a manufacturer to paint an area > under > a component after the component is installed or before? I would argue > that > the area was painted before . Which brings us to the next question , did > the manufacturer mask off and paint a second color over the original color > which means he had to pay the labor to mask off the surrounding metalwork. > I think not!!! Is it possible there is a high instance of where paint got > on > the cross member when an owner refreshed the radiator paint.. much more > likely. Have learned a little investigative logic goes a long way lots of > times. That said I would argue that, as the standards state, that the > frame > rail is painted body color. > > Leo > > > > In addition, the frame comming from under the radiator is black as well. > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3506 - Release Date: 03/14/11 From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Mar 14 16:10:17 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:10:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed References: <20110314201426.Y9RYM.47134.root@cdptpa-web02-z01> <4D7E9D3D.1030601@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> 42 ms Ping 18.52 Mbps Down 2.25 Mbps Up Comcast Nashville From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 16:37:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:37:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> Message-ID: Jack what book are you referring to pg 181 and if I don't have it how can I buy one? Thanks, Linda this stuff is very interesting. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Leo, I can not even think why these are black I have never seen any other > than car color. However, my 1960 BE one year old when I got it had black > hood hinges. No fooling. You know, thinking about it I would supose that > bonnets and bodys were painted before mateing them. > > But then what do I know, maybe some were body color and some were black. > > I expect that the frame horns black is an aberation, In fact in that pic on > page 181 I see other things that are not correct as we know it. Maybe > someone slipped us a sneeky one. Happens. Guess that is why an orginal > documented car is worth so much. > > > I don't want to get into the semantics of a he said, they said argument >> and >> nor do I want to choose sides in this conversation but why not approach it >> from a logic perspective. As far as the frame member under the radiator >> does it make more economical sense for a manufacturer to paint an area >> under >> a component after the component is installed or before? I would argue >> that >> the area was painted before . Which brings us to the next question , did >> the manufacturer mask off and paint a second color over the original color >> which means he had to pay the labor to mask off the surrounding metalwork. >> I think not!!! Is it possible there is a high instance of where paint got >> on >> the cross member when an owner refreshed the radiator paint.. much more >> likely. Have learned a little investigative logic goes a long way lots of >> times. That said I would argue that, as the standards state, that the >> frame >> rail is painted body color. >> >> Leo >> >> >> >> In addition, the frame comming from under the radiator is black as well. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3506 - Release Date: 03/14/11 >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 16:53:12 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:53:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Unusual LBC Project In-Reply-To: <4935FB5BC0CE46BF973A9FFB90D122E6@psych.washington.edu> References: <4935FB5BC0CE46BF973A9FFB90D122E6@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Very cute but unfortunatly with a Rolls-Royce engine I bet that's why it is for sale. I bet parts are very expensive. Lin On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Here's an odd little LBC project if anyone's looking. > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2264584164.html > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 17:02:58 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> Message-ID: Not to pour water on anyone's parade but I'll wager that BE production lines were much like many other vehicle production lines all over the world. When a vehicle came down the line and they were out of a certain series widget or paint to put on it, they grabbed one from another pile rather than stop production and be sure each vehicle was totally consistent. I know for a fact that MG production was that way at Abingdon as I was told by an old fellow about his experience working there in the 1960s. He assured that they put Sprite parts on MGs and vice versa all the time rather than not meet production measures. My BMW motorcycles were also made that way. You can never be sure that anything is absolutely authentic. I suppose that people who write the Concours Standards are aware of this but simply choose to ignore it. Unfortunately, the guys on the production lines never got a copy of the Concours Standards - they were just expected to turn out so many vehicles a day. One good reason I never played with such things. I have better things to argue with other people about.... (Where's Ed?) ;-) Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Jack what book are you referring to pg 181 and if I don't have it how can I > buy one? > Thanks, > Linda > this stuff is very interesting. > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > > > Leo, I can not even think why these are black I have never seen any other > > than car color. However, my 1960 BE one year old when I got it had black > > hood hinges. No fooling. You know, thinking about it I would supose that > > bonnets and bodys were painted before mateing them. > > > > But then what do I know, maybe some were body color and some were black. > > > > I expect that the frame horns black is an aberation, In fact in that pic > on > > page 181 I see other things that are not correct as we know it. Maybe > > someone slipped us a sneeky one. Happens. Guess that is why an orginal > > documented car is worth so much. > > > > > > I don't want to get into the semantics of a he said, they said argument > >> and > >> nor do I want to choose sides in this conversation but why not approach > it > >> from a logic perspective. As far as the frame member under the radiator > >> does it make more economical sense for a manufacturer to paint an area > >> under > >> a component after the component is installed or before? I would argue > >> that > >> the area was painted before . Which brings us to the next question , > did > >> the manufacturer mask off and paint a second color over the original > color > >> which means he had to pay the labor to mask off the surrounding > metalwork. > >> I think not!!! Is it possible there is a high instance of where paint > got > >> on > >> the cross member when an owner refreshed the radiator paint.. much more > >> likely. Have learned a little investigative logic goes a long way lots > of > >> times. That said I would argue that, as the standards state, that the > >> frame > >> rail is painted body color. > >> > >> Leo > >> > >> > >> > >> In addition, the frame comming from under the radiator is black as well. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 17:10:02 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:10:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: <4D7DA00A.1070809@justbrits.com> References: <204948122.1820732.1300073641058.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D7DA00A.1070809@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Though it would be exhausting to restore a Sprite to standards and not to mention time consuming and expensive, I totally appreciate all the work done to gather the information and appreciate that the standards were written by volunteers. Thanks for the info Ed. Lin On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Last count there were 42 'standards' for the same interface, > all different! >> > > That is NO different than defining a paint colour, David !! > And by paint, I am including Engine with Body, Hood Bows, etc.. > > Fer instance it would be "possible" for a Car Body and a Shifter > Cover to actually NOT be exactly alike PERFECTLY, right ?? > The Black for Battery Hold-down Bar to differ by shades to the > Dash Bracket. > > Ergo, The Standards . "Shade" diff is not necessarily going > to rec'v a Deduction unless plain as the nose on your face. > TWO [2] Iris Blue cars are NOT and never have been [since > inception of The Standards] judged against each other !! > > EACH car is judged to The Standards which have been agreed > upon by a number of VOLUNTEER folks over the years. It has > NOT been, I can assure you, an easy task !! > > Personally, I THANK every one of them, Active or Retired. > > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Mar 14 18:22:48 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:22:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> Message-ID: Not only did nobody answer my question, but none of the smart-ass responses were clever or amusing. From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 17:32:10 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:32:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> Message-ID: Basically Billy it is a measure of how quickly a small packet of data can be passed to a remote server and back again. Gives a good idea of network latency and tests where the remote IP address can be seen. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:23 PM To: Mark; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed Not only did nobody answer my question, but none of the smart-ass responses were clever or amusing. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pondhopautomation at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Mar 14 17:32:35 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:32:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> Message-ID: <87222E67-3DBB-44A0-8850-A254A10FC45C@snet.net> Jim, You've raised my curiosity Could you give me an example of the non-original Sprite parts that were interchanged with. MG parts? Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT -An iPhone communication- On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > . I know for a > fact that MG production was that way at Abingdon as I was told by an old > fellow about his experience working there in the 1960s. He assured that they > put Sprite parts on MGs and vice versa all the time rather than not meet > production measures. From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Mon Mar 14 17:40:15 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:40:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> Message-ID: <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Went here for a test http://www.speed.io/index_en.html 84 ms 1423 K dnload 486 K upload Century Link DSL at home Dave From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Mar 14 17:59:52 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> Message-ID: Jim, On one hand you demonstrate some useful insight. I would recommend you get involved with the Conciurs Committee and offer your services. On the other hand, besides having five fingers, you are quite negative about some people who have devoted much time and effort to develop and hone the Concours Standards to help preserve representative examples of how Sprites existed when brand new. Your pi**ing match with Ed has nothing to do with dissing the Concours Committee. And FYI, I am not, and never was, a member of that committee. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT -An iPhone communication- On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: . You can > never be sure that anything is absolutely authentic. I suppose that people > who write the Concours Standards are aware of this but simply choose to > ignore it. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 18:10:31 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:10:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: <725329.94277.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <725329.94277.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Haven't gotten one yet they are over $200. now. And I just don't understand why they are so damn expensive. Lin On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Skip Jackson wrote: > Linda, What does your Brit Heritage Certificate say about colour? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Mar 14 18:16:00 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <23670.70821.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Download: 5280 Kbit/s Upload : 1064 kbit/s Connects : 2581 conn/min Ping: 21 ms which I think means I can read and "contribute" to this crappy thread very quickly. --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Dave Yealy wrote: > From: Dave Yealy > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 7:40 PM > Went here for a test > http://www.speed.io/index_en.html > > 84 ms > 1423 K dnload > 486 K upload > > Century Link DSL at home > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Mar 14 18:28:18 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <561701.35963.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I understand the MG guys were putting MG wire wheels, chrome side strips and vertical grilles on Sprites all the time ;-) Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 To: Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 8:02 PM . I know for afact that MG production was that way at Abingdon as I was told by an oldfellow about his experience working there in the 1960s. He assured that they put Sprite parts on MGs and vice versa all the time rather than not meet production measures. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 18:32:36 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:32:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1962 MK II Sprites did not come with rubber transmission mat see article..... In-Reply-To: <6BBDE4AB-CA74-437A-963E-5924C45337B8@snet.net> References: <4D7CF41E.7020006@justbrits.com> <6BBDE4AB-CA74-437A-963E-5924C45337B8@snet.net> Message-ID: Jay I know your reply was mostly directed to Ed. I knew the hard tops were ether black or white from reading Terry's book, but did you know the Warwick hardtop could be ordered in matching colors? I got that tip from Jon Whitehouse-Bird in the UK. Personally I find "factory specks" very interesting and I got that form the guys on the VW bus forums as I need to keep my westfilia as close to stock as possible for when I eventually sell it. The more I study the VW Split window bus the more I find the original from factory specks interesting for all kinds of stuff. Although I also like and appreciate vintage period speed accessories or just interesting vintage period accessories like the Judson Supercharger, the ARE Libre wheels, Talbott mirrors and several period steering wheels. I'm not interested in restoring a trophy car although I would like to bring my car so others can see some history. That is why it is hard to repaint my pink sprite I'm trying to find the fine line in my comfort zone of close to original and looks presentable. I love patina (what the VW Split Window bus guys call original faded and rusted paint) so I may just do a little welding & a blend as a start. As for the new hardtop she looks like crap and needs paint badly maybe I'll do a faded deep pink to look like patina. I finally understand why the top dollar cars are original cars because like they say it is only original once ; ) Lin On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > I didn't say they ONLY came in white. Hardtops were supplied black and > white. > > Regarding your other comments, some subscribe to the notion that there were > regular deviations in production. I don't. > > I believe in what can be documented through factory and period information. > My > interest in originality is how they left the factory. I have never had much > interest in non-factory accessories. > > My interest in Concours has waned considerably over the years because > people > without an appreciation for it, like to make a sport out of criticizing it, > some like to stretch the rules primarily to win a trophy, and others try to > use condition and parts installed on non-original beaters as valid criteria > for originality. > > If you just want to win prizes, enter a car in popularity, hand out beer, > and > glad-hand everybody. Or better yet, get a car that has no competition in > it's > class. > > If you have an interest in originality, get your hands on every period > publication that even mentions the word Austin-Healey Sprite and start > reading. Get factory parts books and note the change points. Observe > unrestored original cars. > > One's interest in originality shouldn't be to win a trophy nor to own a car > they would feel uncomfortable owning or driving. > > Regarding special ordering Sprites in different colors, I'll accept your > "perhaps" if I see the original dealer and factory information confirming > such. > > Jay Fishbein > Wallingford, CT > -An iPhone communication- > > On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" < > shop at justbrits.com> > wrote: > > > << And blue Sprites (Mk I) came with blue interiors. >> > > > > Whilst I am not positive Jay, I think in the Little Healeys cars > > "could" be ordered from the Factory with "special" > > colours/trim ?!? I do KNOW it's true in the Big cars !! > > > > SO there might be a "perhaps" in Lin's Iris Blue car having a > > Red Interior !?! > > > > You mentioned to me the other day that Factory Sprite H.T.s > > were white, right ??? > > > > There IS a copy of a BMIHT Cert. for a Leaf Green Frogeye > > headed to Montreal, Can, that was dispatched with a BLACK > > H.T.!! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From aseippel at austin.rr.com Mon Mar 14 18:36:07 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:36:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <938139490.1826132.1300117049698.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <938139490.1826132.1300117049698.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <00d701cbe2b1$5b69a4d0$123cee70$@rr.com> Ping 51ms Download 24.67 Mbps Upload 1.84 Mbps Round Rock Texas on Time Warner Turbo Cable Jim From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 18:40:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: <58DF87481A0A44829BC31102CEB83902@Dell9200> References: <725329.94277.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <58DF87481A0A44829BC31102CEB83902@Dell9200> Message-ID: Mark where did you see it for that price the last I heard it was $200. or more. Lin On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Mark wrote: > Linda, they are 39 UKP or about $62.00 USD. You really should get one when > you get a few bucks. > > Mark > Nashville > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Skip Jackson" > Cc: "spridget" > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. > > > Haven't gotten one yet they are over $200. now. And I just don't understand > why they are so damn expensive. > Lin > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Skip Jackson >wrote: > > > Linda, What does your Brit Heritage Certificate say about colour? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mark at nashvilletn.org From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 18:44:09 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:44:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ping: 9 ms Download Speed: 29.86 Mbps Upload Speed: 3.59 Mbps This is at home, since that's where I am. Rick (speedy...) Bastedo On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Ping: 5 ms > Download Speed: 65.67 Mbps > Upload Speed: 29.87 Mbps > > This is at work, since that's where I am. > > Rick (that's not so fast...) Bastedo From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Mar 14 18:45:19 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:45:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: References: <725329.94277.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><58DF87481A0A44829BC31102CEB83902@Dell9200> Message-ID: <52369DD7928F4BC682C5519F873C5A73@spider> When searching for any book, use the ISBN; you'll get more Google hits. ...bill in corvallis ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 6:41 PM To: Mark Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. Mark where did you see it for that price the last I heard it was $200. or more. Lin From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Mar 14 18:50:21 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ferrari 458 Italia vs. Kirkham 427 Cobra Message-ID: <380997.12276.qm@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The race has been run. Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTf0bj7Ho0U&feature=player_embedded Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 18:51:41 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:51:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <00d701cbe2b1$5b69a4d0$123cee70$@rr.com> References: <938139490.1826132.1300117049698.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <00d701cbe2b1$5b69a4d0$123cee70$@rr.com> Message-ID: I hate my Verizon DSL but I am NOT paying another dime to upgrading any more services in my house. They start with $30. then $65. then $100. it will never end. I refuse fiber and I'll stick with my local TV channels (unfortunately using cable since the towers in NYC went down). I don't even want my cell phone but they don't have any more pay phones. Ping =88 Download= 1.60 Upload = .35 And proud ; ) Lin On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Jim Seippel wrote: > Ping 51ms > Download 24.67 Mbps > Upload 1.84 Mbps > > Round Rock Texas on Time Warner Turbo Cable > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 18:54:01 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:54:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer Message-ID: Today I received a right angle drive and speedo cable from Will at Rivergate. I put it in the car but the end of the cable was too big for the speedometer in my 78 Midget. I squished it a bit with a pair of vice grips and got it to go in then put the speedometer back in the dash and did a quick test drive. For the first time since I've owned this car it has a working speedometer that is not on my GPS or my little bicycle speedo. All my dash gauges work and all electrical circuits except one are working correctly. Now if I could figure out how to get the gauge lights to turn on when I turn on the parking lights... Rick (almost there) Bastedo From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Mar 14 18:54:38 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Insurance 101 Message-ID: <222661.94248.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Here's a good discussion of the differences among "Actual Cash Value", "Stated Amount" and "Agreed Value" policies: http://www.grundy.com/insurance101/ Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 14 19:04:32 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <261652402.1837180.1300154526747.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <680476651.1837211.1300154672907.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> As a previous email has said; a 'ping' is a small packet of data that basically says "Hi" to the target and the target says "Hi" back, The measure is the time this small packet takes to get from you to them and back. The problem is, that a 'ping' is not a true picture of what the connection can do. A modern 'packet' of data has seven (yes, 7) layers wrapped around it that contain various information such as origin, destination, protocol, length, error correction, tcp/ip (don't ask!) packet number , etc. So it is more efficient to send a long data stream than a short data stream. Not forgetting that each ISP is throttling down the data stream to the level the customer has paid for... Spent half my life in this crap! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" Not only did nobody answer my question, but none of the smart-ass responses were clever or amusing. From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Mar 14 19:08:52 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Insurance 101 In-Reply-To: <222661.94248.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <222661.94248.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <273974.65419.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A good explanation of Agreed Value and ACV, but their explanation of Stated Value is a bit vague. To be more clear, they should explain that under Stated Value coverage, the Stated Value amount is not the amount that will be paid at the time of loss. Stated Value is the amount used to rate the cost of the Physical Damage insurance in the absence of any other means to rate that coverage for the vehicle. You do not want "Stated Value" aka "Stated Amount" coverage. You want "Agreed Value". jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: HealeyRick To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 9:54:38 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Insurance 101 Here's a good discussion of the differences among "Actual Cash Value", "Stated Amount" and "Agreed Value" policies: http://www.grundy.com/insurance101/ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Mar 14 20:35:48 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:35:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <001501cbe2c2$1356f5b0$3a04e110$@rr.com> I don't care what my connection speed is since its never fast enough when I need the extra oomph, but its stable and I have a static IP. My warning to all; if you do a speed test, please be alert and make sure you use a speed test site that does just that. NO reputable testing site will ask you for a free trial of some registry cleaner or have pop ups for other offers. Chris From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 14 20:39:30 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <144410576.1838509.1300160370525.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Exactly my position with the same provider !!! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" I hate my Verizon DSL but I am NOT paying another dime to upgrading any more services in my house. They start with $30. then $65. then $100. From hardy.john at cox.net Mon Mar 14 20:59:16 2011 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Price for British Heritage Certificate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110314235916.5F1B8.58437.imail@fed1rmwml45> Linda, Over $200 dollars? Where did you get that price? I recieved one this past November for my recently purchased Healey 100 BN2 for a sum of B#39 plus another B#4.25 for the postage. If you go to their website at http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/exhibitions/archive-services/ they provide the details on ordering one for your car. FYI it took about 2 weeks before I recieved the lastest one. Cheers, John ---- Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Haven't gotten one yet they are over $200. now. And I just don't understand > why they are so damn expensive. > Lin > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Skip Jackson wrote: > > > Linda, What does your Brit Heritage Certificate say about colour? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hardy.john at cox.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 22:35:20 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:35:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> Message-ID: Hi Jay, Concours does not interest me at all. I went through that with motorcycle restorations years ago and found that for every warm fuzzy I got about a zillion upset stomachs. I've actually seen judges take a paint chip and analyze it to see if it is correct paint! Sorry, but that is anal retentive. I do not begrudge people who are into that sort of thing, but I do see the hypocrisy in their obsessing over minutia. They are welcome to do so as long as they don't expect me to participate... ;-) Oh... And I'm not dissing the Concours group. Mike Osipik happens to be a good friend and I do respect what they are trying to do. I just think it is a fools errand by good people who mean well. Have you had the awful flooding we are seeing on TV? Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > Jim, > > On one hand you demonstrate some useful insight. I would recommend you get > involved with the Conciurs Committee and offer your services. > > On the other hand, besides having five fingers, you are quite negative > about some people who have devoted much time and effort to develop and hone > the Concours Standards to help preserve representative examples of how > Sprites existed when brand new. > > Your pi**ing match with Ed has nothing to do with dissing the Concours > Committee. > > And FYI, I am not, and never was, a member of that committee. > > Jay Fishbein > Wallingford, CT > -An iPhone communication- > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > . You can > > never be sure that anything is absolutely authentic. I suppose that > people > > who write the Concours Standards are aware of this but simply choose to > > ignore it. From gmuttart at eastlink.ca Tue Mar 15 02:57:01 2011 From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 06:57:01 -0300 Subject: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. In-Reply-To: References: <725329.94277.qm@web46415.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <58DF87481A0A44829BC31102CEB83902@Dell9200> Message-ID: Lin I'm on the Digest, so you may see this from others first: http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/exhibitions/archive-services Geoff Nova Scotia -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] Sent: March 14, 2011 10:41 PM To: Mark Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another standards question Bugeye colors. Mark where did you see it for that price the last I heard it was $200. or more. Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 03:17:44 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 06:17:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Price for British Heritage Certificate In-Reply-To: <20110314235916.5F1B8.58437.imail@fed1rmwml45> References: <20110314235916.5F1B8.58437.imail@fed1rmwml45> Message-ID: I have no idea where I read it was $200. getting lots of lister's sending this link thanks all. I tried to enlarge the image on my old Mac but it stays small, so which one should I be buying? I only have the vin number and I want the most information possible. Getting 2 : ) Thanks everyone this is so cool. Linda On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:59 PM, wrote: > > > Linda, > > Over $200 dollars? Where did you get that price? I recieved one this past > November for my recently purchased Healey 100 BN2 for a sum of #39 plus > another #4.25 for the postage. If you go to their website at > http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/exhibitions/archive-services/ they > provide the details on ordering one for your car. FYI it took about 2 weeks > before I recieved the lastest one. > > Cheers, > > John > > > ---- Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Haven't gotten one yet they are over $200. now. And I just don't > understand > > why they are so damn expensive. > > Lin > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Skip Jackson >wrote: > > > > > Linda, What does your Brit Heritage Certificate say about colour? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hardy.john at cox.net From pvanwig at me.com Tue Mar 15 05:50:38 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:50:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: Went here for a test http://www.speedtest.net/ 9 ms 20.34 Mbps download 5.55 Mbps upload FiOS @home Paul Van Wig pvanwig at me.com "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/tiff which had a name of PastedGraphic-1.tiff] No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 06:13:29 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:13:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay# 320669636262 In-Reply-To: References: <681066.47688.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <00e301cbe0cc$a27e5690$e77b03b0$@net> <1F3A312A05204D00B62253FBF3C9A67D@FAMILY> <4D7CDB07.4010803@justbrits.com> <6C867FFEDD18497F9212699B0E5F1C8E@personal> <9B6BDADCFABF4D7CA0F28A442905F6D9@personal> <4D7D9CDB.3030704@justbrits.com> <48BBC0AD2FE04B5DA9D92EC11DB34C21@personal> <008701cbe252$9e01b9e0$da052da0$@net> <33C6EE6CC2B2439089100201EC971913@personal> Message-ID: Wow Jim yes very anal and not necessary but I guess for some it is all about collecting dust with the plastic trophy. Now if there was a cool vintage part as the trophy I'd give it a try...wink. No problem with flooding for me I am high and dry, I also have a home on a slab so I don't get the wet basements like my neighbors do. I've been through that as a kid with a wet basement and decited not to buy with a basement again. I do feel for those who are struggling but I'm sure after they see what is going on in Japan their situation can't compare with the nuclear disaster. Still waist deep water is horrible. Lin On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Hi Jay, > > Concours does not interest me at all. I went through that with motorcycle > restorations years ago and found that for every warm fuzzy I got about a > zillion upset stomachs. I've actually seen judges take a paint chip and > analyze it to see if it is correct paint! Sorry, but that is anal > retentive. I do not begrudge people who are into that sort of thing, but I > do see the hypocrisy in their obsessing over minutia. They are welcome to > do > so as long as they don't expect me to participate... ;-) > > Oh... And I'm not dissing the Concours group. Mike Osipik happens to be > a > good friend and I do respect what they are trying to do. I just think it is > a fools errand by good people who mean well. > > Have you had the awful flooding we are seeing on TV? > > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > > > Jim, > > > > On one hand you demonstrate some useful insight. I would recommend you > get > > involved with the Conciurs Committee and offer your services. > > > > On the other hand, besides having five fingers, you are quite negative > > about some people who have devoted much time and effort to develop and > hone > > the Concours Standards to help preserve representative examples of how > > Sprites existed when brand new. > > > > Your pi**ing match with Ed has nothing to do with dissing the Concours > > Committee. > > > > And FYI, I am not, and never was, a member of that committee. > > > > Jay Fishbein > > Wallingford, CT > > -An iPhone communication- > > > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > . You can > > > never be sure that anything is absolutely authentic. I suppose that > > people > > > who write the Concours Standards are aware of this but simply choose to > > > ignore it. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 07:29:30 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:29:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: > Went here for a test > http://www.speedtest.net/ > 9 ms > 20.34 Mbps download > 5.55 Mbps upload > FiOS @home >From work, over a 16Mb Comcast Business cable connection, my numbers are: 5ms 34.20Mbps 4.41Mbps David L From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Mar 15 09:22:40 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:22:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So now what? What's this information good for? http://www.speed.io/index_en.html 8369 KBit/s 983 KBit/s 38ms http://www.speedtest.net/ 8.02 Mbps .95 Mbps 121ms From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 08:39:03 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:39:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed Message-ID: It is good for 3 things 1) See how fast your current isp is so you can compare to your contract or new isp 2) See if slow loading is due to your computer is connection speed 3) And this is the big one.... It let's you brag to all your friends how fast a connection you have. ------Original Message------ From: Billy Zoom Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: Paul Van Wig Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed Sent: Mar 15, 2011 12:22 PM So now what? What's this information good for? http://www.speed.io/index_en.html 8369 KBit/s 983 KBit/s 38ms http://www.speedtest.net/ 8.02 Mbps .95 Mbps 121ms _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 08:41:58 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:41:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That means you can pwn noobs in FPS games. Boom! Headshot! Video NSFW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9qXbgrx9rg On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > So now what? What's this information good for? > > http://www.speed.io/index_en.html > 8369 KBit/s > 983 KBit/s > 38ms > > http://www.speedtest.net/ > 8.02 Mbps > .95 Mbps > 121ms From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 10:01:04 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-668738970485314519@unknownmsgid> > So now what? What's this information good for? It is data that can be used to help weight your options for an ISP. Some people want better response time to win eBay auctions, some want better download speeds to watch Netflix, some want better upload speeds to host pron sites. Some are willing to pay more for some features. As you can see from the data generated in this "most useless thread ever", there are a lot of options out there and they can make a significant difference. I am happy with my connection at the price I am paying, although there is no such thing as too fast of an Internet connection or too much horsepower. David L From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Mar 15 11:06:35 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:06:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110315180635.JCK2A.3022.root@cdptpa-web13-z01> For the average user it doesn't make all that much difference. The reason is that you typically aren't limited by the speed of your ISP, you are limited by the server speed of whoever you are connected to. (It doesn't matter if your pizza delivery guy drives a Ferrari if it takes his kitchen an hour to make your pizza.) There probably is a threshold below which the home user will see a difference but I don't know what that is. It is probably at the lower end of the average cable ISP's speed. After you get 2 or 5 or whatever MBPS download speed, you probably can't tell the difference anymore. If a person does a lot of downloading and you know that the sites that you download from are fast, then a faster ISP is of benefit. If you play online games with other people, then low latency (low ping times) are of benefit. If you have reason to upload a lot of stuff, for instance here at work we send large data files back to our clients, then you need a high upload speed. > So now what? What's this information good for? > > http://www.speed.io/index_en.html > 8369 KBit/s > 983 KBit/s > 38ms > > http://www.speedtest.net/ > 8.02 Mbps > .95 Mbps > 121ms From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com Tue Mar 15 12:02:44 2011 From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:02:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?New_BMW_El_Camino_-_no_lbc?= Message-ID: Here's one for ya Ed... WWW.autoblog.com/photos/spy-shots-bmw-m3-pickup/#3973616 Sent from my HTC EVO 4G From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Mar 15 12:03:46 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:03:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21191A06-2E11-41D3-981D-0F3E0171A69C@comcast.net> Pfffttt.. noobs are nuthin' when you do in a Noble rank it's worth it... Lester On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:41 AM, derf wrote: > That means you can pwn noobs in FPS games. Boom! Headshot! > > Video NSFW: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9qXbgrx9rg > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Billy Zoom > wrote: >> So now what? What's this information good for? >> >> http://www.speed.io/index_en.html >> 8369 KBit/s >> 983 KBit/s >> 38ms >> >> http://www.speedtest.net/ >> 8.02 Mbps >> .95 Mbps >> 121ms > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 15 12:45:17 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:45:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New BMW El Camino - no lbc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D7FC1CD.8020502@justbrits.com> << Here's one for ya Ed... >> Thanks Tad, but NO FR*GGIN' thanks. Bimmer could *give* one to me plus the Retail Sales money TIMES TEN and I would "think" about it. That thing is **WORSE** than "suggested & tested" Holden concept and I didn't think ANYBODY could do worse. HATE to admit it - LOL - but I was WRONG !!!! YUK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed PS: Actually uglier than "C"s are !!! From lists at dinospider.com Tue Mar 15 13:04:35 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:04:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New BMW El Camino - no lbc In-Reply-To: <4D7FC1CD.8020502@justbrits.com> References: <4D7FC1CD.8020502@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4D7FC653.8080301@dinospider.com> Make it a convertible like the old Dodge Dakota convertible pickup and I am game for it :) mike On 03/15/2011 12:45 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Here's one for ya Ed... >> > > Thanks Tad, but NO FR*GGIN' thanks. > > Bimmer could *give* one to me plus the Retail Sales money TIMES > TEN and I would "think" about it. > That thing is **WORSE** than "suggested & tested" Holden concept > and I didn't think ANYBODY could do worse. > > HATE to admit it - LOL - but I was WRONG !!!! > > YUK > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Ed > > PS: Actually uglier than "C"s are !!! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Mar 15 14:10:40 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:10:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Sendai Message-ID: <64A81259719D498A9AD36CCCBB6F3B0D@Home> An in-law, 23 years old teaching high school English in Sendai, just got through to the family this morning. Not only is he OK, but was in a part of Sendai that was untouched. He has even gotten electricity and water back. What a story to tell his children. He will help the displaced to the extent he can. It is a terrible way to do it, I know, but he has been having trouble finding friends his age (especially girls). I expect disaster work will introduce him to a lot of local people he would not otherwise meet. Michael Rowe From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 15 14:48:21 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:48:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Sendai Message-ID: <56EF8BF120244D4C98E9E95CFE068068@spider> Good news in very trying times. ...bill in corvallis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sendai ================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:11 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Sendai An in-law, 23 years old teaching high school English in Sendai, just got through to the family this morning. Not only is he OK, but was in a part of Sendai that was untouched. He has even gotten electricity and water back. What a story to tell his children. He will help the displaced to the extent he can. It is a terrible way to do it, I know, but he has been having trouble finding friends his age (especially girls). I expect disaster work will introduce him to a lot of local people he would not otherwise meet. Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com Tue Mar 15 15:13:34 2011 From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:13:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?New_BMW_El_Camino_-_no_lbc?= Message-ID: <23.07.29678.084EF7D4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> "PS: B Actually uglier than "C"s are !!!" Hey what the hell? Peter C is not going to appreciate that one bit! Sent from my HTC EVO 4G ----- Reply message ----- From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" Date: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 3:45 pm Subject: [Spridgets] New BMW El Camino - no lbc To: "Spridgets" << Here's one for ya Ed... >> Thanks Tad, but NO FR*GGIN' thanks. Bimmer could *give* one to me plus the Retail Sales money TIMES TEN and I would "think" about it. That thing is **WORSE** than "suggested & tested" Holden concept and I didn't think ANYBODY could do worse. HATE to admit it - LOL - but I was WRONG !!!! YUK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed PS: Actually uglier than "C"s are !!! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 15 17:32:14 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:32:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New BMW El Camino - no lbc In-Reply-To: <23.07.29678.084EF7D4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> References: <23.07.29678.084EF7D4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Message-ID: <4D80050E.2090902@justbrits.com> PPS: << "PS: Actually uglier than "C"s are !!!" Hey what the hell? Peter C is not going to appreciate that one bit! >> One car he doesn't have Tad, but YOU do !!!! PPPS: For those of you that don't know, http://www.justbrits.com/cars/mgs.html !! From frogeye at cox.net Tue Mar 15 17:48:30 2011 From: frogeye at cox.net (alan) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:48:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] stock exhaust pipe sizes Message-ID: <995730ABFB33400EB11F5A3C369301A0@frogeye> Can someone confirm the stock diameters of the 3 ...............A series motors please? I recall a 948 uses a 1 1/8b A 1098 maybe a 1 1/4b a 1275 maybe a 1 1/2b But this is all from a fuzzy memory bank Thanks in advance Alan From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Mar 15 17:50:41 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:50:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring Message-ID: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> Since we have a diversified bunch of people on this list, I thought I would ask here first. 120v electric motor with 9 wires coming out of it. 8 are black, 1 is green. 3 position switch, forward, neutral, reverse. It has 6 wires coming out of it. 2 green, 2 white, 2 black. There is no plug for an outlet and all the wires have been cut by the DPO. So how do I wire 6 into 9 and not let out any smoke? No name on anything to look up but the switch is made in USA as is the motor. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 18:01:28 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:01:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring In-Reply-To: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> References: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> Message-ID: A pic is worth 10,000 clouds of blue smoke. Green is almost certainly ground. Is the motor 120 only or possibly 120/240? Reversible could account for 6 wires. Is anything else missing? Many motors have two wires that come out and connect to capacitors strapped to them. That might account for 2 extras. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 18:05:32 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:05:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring In-Reply-To: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> References: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> Message-ID: Here is one possible scenario to think about: Wire 1 and 6 go to hot and neutral power, should not matter which goes to which. Wires 2-5 might go something like this: 2 and 3 connect to each other and 4 and 5 connect to each other to make the motor go CW 2 and 4 connect to each other and 3 and 5 connect to each other to make the motor go CCW If the switch has jumpers that go diagonally from corner to corner than this is probably the case. Switch wires sound like whatever color the wirer had convenient. Again, pics might be good. Any brand on the motor? From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 18:07:24 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:07:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring In-Reply-To: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> References: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> Message-ID: Continued: Wires 7 and 8 go to a capacitor Green wire is ground. If all wires are black look closely for other markers. Sometimes companies use all black wires with little numbers printed on them. Or, follow the wires into the motor and see if they are spliced to different colored wires. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 18:20:44 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:20:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring In-Reply-To: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> References: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank, Possibly 3 phase.... Kevin On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Since we have a diversified bunch of people on this list, I thought > I would ask here first. > > 120v electric motor with 9 wires coming out of it. 8 are black, 1 > is green. > > 3 position switch, forward, neutral, reverse. It has 6 wires coming > out of it. > 2 green, 2 white, 2 black. > > There is no plug for an outlet and all the wires have been cut by > the DPO. > > So how do I wire 6 into 9 and not let out any smoke? > > No name on anything to look up but the switch is made in USA as is > the motor. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 15 18:24:35 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:24:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: No LBC- elec motor wiring Message-ID: <4C8EB57708DE43BAA17723F6221367AE@spider> http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=8779 ============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:51 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring Since we have a diversified bunch of people on this list, I thought I would ask here first. 120v electric motor with 9 wires coming out of it. 8 are black, 1 is green. 3 position switch, forward, neutral, reverse. It has 6 wires coming out of it. 2 green, 2 white, 2 black. There is no plug for an outlet and all the wires have been cut by the DPO. So how do I wire 6 into 9 and not let out any smoke? No name on anything to look up but the switch is made in USA as is the motor. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? _______________________________________________ From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 18:26:01 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:26:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Vendor question Message-ID: <2EAA8643-F00F-47F1-9436-104DAB7E43DC@gmail.com> Hey ALL, Has anyone had dealings with this company? http://tinyurl.com/4d49wqk or http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-75-79-Triumph-Spitfire-Weber- Carburetor-Kit-/390296226095? pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5adf77c92f#ht_4059wt_1167 A friend (Andy) wants a new Weber and manifold for his 75 Midget (1500). Any/all input welcome. Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 19:00:49 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:00:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring In-Reply-To: References: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> Message-ID: 3 phase generally look different than single phase - tend to have ridges or what looks like cooling fins. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Valentine Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:20:44 To: Frank Clarici Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring Frank, Possibly 3 phase.... Kevin On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Since we have a diversified bunch of people on this list, I thought > I would ask here first. > > 120v electric motor with 9 wires coming out of it. 8 are black, 1 > is green. > > 3 position switch, forward, neutral, reverse. It has 6 wires coming > out of it. > 2 green, 2 white, 2 black. > > There is no plug for an outlet and all the wires have been cut by > the DPO. > > So how do I wire 6 into 9 and not let out any smoke? > > No name on anything to look up but the switch is made in USA as is > the motor. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Mar 15 20:24:46 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:24:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <1845875257-1300203544-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1730529958-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: > 1) See how fast your current isp is so you can compare to your contract or new > isp It only gets as fast as it gets. I have a Time Warner cable modem, which I'm told is the fastest connection available in my area. What's the point in knowing how fast it is or isn't? From davriker at nwi.net Tue Mar 15 19:42:33 2011 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:42:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200><201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: I'll bite. 0 ms 25.82 Mbps download 18.62 Mbps upload. Chelan County Fiber Optic Network via LocalTel (NWI) David Riker Wenatchee, WA -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:29 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed > Went here for a test > http://www.speedtest.net/ > 9 ms > 20.34 Mbps download > 5.55 Mbps upload > FiOS @home >From work, over a 16Mb Comcast Business cable connection, my numbers are: 5ms 34.20Mbps 4.41Mbps David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/davriker at nwi.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3509 - Release Date: 03/15/11 From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Mar 15 19:52:47 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:52:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit session this Saturday Message-ID: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> 2 projects to get to. Bob's Bugeye brakes, complete brake system. Bob is a new guy who is not on this list yet, at least I don't think he is. Larry Macy's Midget body swap but first the new shell needs body work and paint We will be pasting Taco Bell wrappers on and sanding. He also wants to dismantle a fresh 1500 with 40 over new pistons because it has signs of rust in the cylinders. All are welcome -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 20:01:11 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:01:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit session this Saturday In-Reply-To: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> References: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0060F5DE-FA29-4498-ADD7-E3A6927C2EFD@gmail.com> On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > 2 projects to get to. > > Bob's Bugeye brakes, complete brake system. > Bob is a new guy who is not on this list yet, at least I don't > think he is. > > Larry Macy's Midget body swap but first the new shell needs body > work and paint > We will be pasting Taco Bell wrappers on and sanding. He also wants > to dismantle a fresh 1500 with 40 over new pistons because it > has signs of rust in the cylinders. > > All are welcome Frank, I'll be there. Kevin From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 20:01:10 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:01:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- elec motor wiring In-Reply-To: <20110316020120.4DC2418787A@autox.team.net> References: <4D800961.1050906@comcast.net> <20110316020120.4DC2418787A@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Not really. Larger motors of 5 plus HP can generally have cooling fins or such but a three phase motor can look just like a single phase motor externally. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:00 PM, wrote: > 3 phase generally look different than single phase - tend to have ridges or what looks like cooling fins. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 20:05:36 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:05:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: 0ms? What are you pinging? The server in the next room? From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 15 20:14:01 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D802AF9.1050309@justbrits.com> << I have a Time Warner cable modem, which I'm told is the fastest connection available in my area.>> Billy, WHO "told" you ?? From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 20:18:36 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:18:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <4D802AF9.1050309@justbrits.com> References: <4D802AF9.1050309@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Time Warner On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << I have a Time Warner cable modem, which I'm told > is the fastest connection available in my area.>> > > Billy, WHO "told" you ?? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Mar 15 20:53:01 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:53:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: <4D802AF9.1050309@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4D80341D.4070308@tx.rr.com> Well of course anything that Time Warner tells you can be expected to be in their best interests and not your best interests. I laugh at the Time Warner Roadrunner television commercials saying how blazing fast their internet is. If you want to see fast (not!) then go to Time Warner's own email website: https://webmail.tx.rr.com/ Some days it loads fast, other days it might take several minutes to load. At work yesterday I never could get it to load. Using this thread as in informal poll, it seems that the Verizon FIOS users are getting the highest speeds. I was going to say that generally any ISP, phone company, maybe even any public utility company, is going to be mediocre at best. They are selling a service that is such that they are somewhat of a monopoly. They can sell a mediocre service, even have outages, and still get paid. Think about it- what product can you sell and only deliver 80% or 90% of the time, but still get paid for the full 100%. My home internet goes out 1 or 2 or 5 days a month, but I still have to pay the full monthly fee. I don't have any options except to contract with a cellphone company instead. My theory is that the companies provide service that is just barely good enough to allow them to stay in business and nothing more. The sole exception to this might be Verizon FIOS. From what I have heard about them, their product is generally better than the rest, and certainly faster. It seems that in the areas around here that get FIOS pay less for it than what we pay for Time Warner. Back to the subject though- I think it is useful periodically to run speed tests just to see how our current internet provider is doing. You might think it is good and won't get better, well it might not get better, but it could certainly get worse. If you look back on my own results- I did a test at work and then a test at home. We pay a lot of money at work for a high speed connection through Time Warner business class. I have a normal Time Warner cable connection at home, but my home speed was faster than my speed at work! If I didn't test the speeds I wouldn't know how badly we are getting cheated at work. > Time Warner > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " > wrote: >> << I have a Time Warner cable modem, which I'm told >> is the fastest connection available in my area.>> >> >> Billy, WHO "told" you ?? From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 15 22:31:19 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:31:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Price for British Heritage Certificate In-Reply-To: References: <20110314235916.5F1B8.58437.imail@fed1rmwml45> Message-ID: <4D804B27.1090804@justbrits.com> << I tried to enlarge the image on my old Mac but it stays small, >> NOT just you ?!? Moi also - odd ?!? << so which one should I be buying? I only have the vin number and I want the most information possible >> Premier, Lin. Can't even order the "Addn'tl Info" one w/o the Cert. # !!! From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 22:32:16 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:32:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <4D80341D.4070308@tx.rr.com> References: <4D802AF9.1050309@justbrits.com> <4D80341D.4070308@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Once service I have not seen mentioned is AT&T UVerse. I switched to this several months ago when it became available. Regularly above 6MB down which is plenty and so far around 99.9% uptime. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJNoSHOV8 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:53 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed Well of course anything that Time Warner tells you can be expected to be in their best interests and not your best interests. I laugh at the Time Warner Roadrunner television commercials saying how blazing fast their internet is. If you want to see fast (not!) then go to Time Warner's own email website: https://webmail.tx.rr.com/ Some days it loads fast, other days it might take several minutes to load. At work yesterday I never could get it to load. Using this thread as in informal poll, it seems that the Verizon FIOS users are getting the highest speeds. I was going to say that generally any ISP, phone company, maybe even any public utility company, is going to be mediocre at best. They are selling a service that is such that they are somewhat of a monopoly. They can sell a mediocre service, even have outages, and still get paid. Think about it- what product can you sell and only deliver 80% or 90% of the time, but still get paid for the full 100%. My home internet goes out 1 or 2 or 5 days a month, but I still have to pay the full monthly fee. I don't have any options except to contract with a cellphone company instead. My theory is that the companies provide service that is just barely good enough to allow them to stay in business and nothing more. The sole exception to this might be Verizon FIOS. From what I have heard about them, their product is generally better than the rest, and certainly faster. It seems that in the areas around here that get FIOS pay less for it than what we pay for Time Warner. Back to the subject though- I think it is useful periodically to run speed tests just to see how our current internet provider is doing. You might think it is good and won't get better, well it might not get better, but it could certainly get worse. If you look back on my own results- I did a test at work and then a test at home. We pay a lot of money at work for a high speed connection through Time Warner business class. I have a normal Time Warner cable connection at home, but my home speed was faster than my speed at work! If I didn't test the speeds I wouldn't know how badly we are getting cheated at work. > Time Warner > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " > wrote: >> << I have a Time Warner cable modem, which I'm told is the fastest >> connection available in my area.>> >> >> Billy, WHO "told" you ?? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pondhopautomation at gmail.com From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Mar 16 05:12:35 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:12:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <4D80341D.4070308@tx.rr.com> References: <4D802AF9.1050309@justbrits.com> <4D80341D.4070308@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <037501cbe3d3$6f625130$4e26f390$@net> 'Think about it- what product can you sell and only deliver 80% or 90% of the time, but still get paid for the full 100%.' The weather forecasts. And I would venture to say they don't even deliver it correctly 80-90% of the time. From lmacy at mac.com Wed Mar 16 06:06:44 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:06:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Vendor question In-Reply-To: <2EAA8643-F00F-47F1-9436-104DAB7E43DC@gmail.com> References: <2EAA8643-F00F-47F1-9436-104DAB7E43DC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7D77E8AA-AFA4-44E7-A55F-7F363E552413@mac.com> Don't know them from Adam. But it does look like a Pierce manifold, which is what I have on my car. Pierce makes the manifold "drop" so the carb clears the bonnet. Works well. But I would check with Pierce direct. it's $7 cheaper. Larry On Mar 15, 2011, at 21:26 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > Hey ALL, > > Has anyone had dealings with this company? > > http://tinyurl.com/4d49wqk > > or > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-75-79-Triumph-Spitfire-Weber- > Carburetor-Kit-/390296226095? > pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5adf77c92f#ht_4059wt_1167 > > A friend (Andy) wants a new Weber and manifold for his 75 Midget (1500). > > Any/all input welcome. > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Some people are like a Slinky, not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. - Anon From lmacy at mac.com Wed Mar 16 06:10:13 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:10:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: <78D0CD750F2A425397CA038A38F69B23@Dell9200> <201103150040.p2F0elre012196@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <406D8740-EABD-4F4D-80C6-408FEE4E0C6E@mac.com> Localhost (127.0.0.1) On Mar 15, 2011, at 23:05 PM, derf wrote: > 0ms? > What are you pinging? The server in the next room? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu System Manager/Administrator Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Mar 16 07:06:51 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:06:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit session this Saturday In-Reply-To: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> References: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43E46D71B4194E72833BC2C35E4B0016@Home> >2 projects to get to. I expect soon to scrap a really good Spridget tub that I bought during an especially low period in the restoration of Rusty Rip-off. It needs floors, a battery tray, and one 2" patch in the right front sill. It is free for the taking. I also have some excess parts that came with my Bugeye kit - like four transmissions, etc. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget -60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Mar 16 07:19:19 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and Midget Parts f/s In-Reply-To: <43E46D71B4194E72833BC2C35E4B0016@Home> References: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> <43E46D71B4194E72833BC2C35E4B0016@Home> Message-ID: <584354.97769.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I am downsizing and I wish to sell a bit of the NOS and good original used parts I have amassed. If anyone is looking for any high quality original parts, please contact me offlist with your specific wants. I don't have a list and I don't have the time to make a list. What I have are real parts which would be important to someone restoring a car or an owner wanting to use real factory parts as opposed to what is available today. Thanks, jay From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 07:48:44 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:48:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and Midget Parts f/s In-Reply-To: <584354.97769.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> <43E46D71B4194E72833BC2C35E4B0016@Home> <584354.97769.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1092667803441728395@unknownmsgid> Or we could each mail you $50 and you could ship random parts to random addresses... David L From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 16 07:56:51 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:56:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit session this Saturday In-Reply-To: <43E46D71B4194E72833BC2C35E4B0016@Home> References: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net> <43E46D71B4194E72833BC2C35E4B0016@Home> Message-ID: <4D80CFB3.5000109@justbrits.com> << It is free for the taking. >> Michael, just run it down to Frank for this weekend's OSHIT and he'll re-build it and sell it by Wed. !!!! YOU just ask for, oh say 20% ?!?!? [be willing to take less - one can ALWAYS take lesser but trying to get more.......-:) !! ] LAD PS: -:) PPS: He *"NEEDS"* something to do !!!!! LMAO !! From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Mar 16 08:05:17 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:05:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pinto Stampede Message-ID: Straight from the pages of the New York Times! The Ford Motor Company spent 2008 celebrating the centenary of its Model T, while in 2009 the automaker sponsored a four-day celebration of its vaunted Mustang. Though 2011 marks the 40th birthday of the Ford Pinto compact car, Dearborn has not issued so much as a Tweet of recognition. But on May 29, a group of Ford Pinto owners will set off from Denver on the Pinto Stampede , a road trip spanning half the country. Participants will drive to Carlisle, Pa., on June 2, where they hope to give the much-maligned car the 40th birthday party they feel it truly deserves. JohnD From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 16 08:19:13 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:19:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and Midget Parts f/s In-Reply-To: <1092667803441728395@unknownmsgid> References: <4D8025FF.6000401@comcast.net>, <43E46D71B4194E72833BC2C35E4B0016@Home>, <584354.97769.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <1092667803441728395@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Would those random addresses be the addresses of the people who sent the $50? Or, just pure random addresses? ;) > Or we could each mail you $50 and you could ship random parts to > random addresses... > David L > _______________________________________________ From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 08:37:32 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:37:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America Message-ID: It would be cool if everyone who is a part of these groups who also attends the 50th at Road America would bring the T-Shirts for a group picture. I can bring a camera, tripod and remote shutter. If you are but don't have a T-Shirt maybe you can get one? If not join in the picture anyway! Who has the shirts or knows where to get them? Rick Bastedo From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 16 08:50:10 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <406D8740-EABD-4F4D-80C6-408FEE4E0C6E@mac.com> Message-ID: <807436293.1862737.1300290610742.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Local host is your PC... You're not checking the line! Only the internal PC capability. Try pinging www.google.com -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macy Larry" Localhost (127.0.0.1) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Mar 16 10:15:02 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:15:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In our area, the phone company doesn't have the necessary infrastructure to support high speed internet. That rules out anything that comes through a phone line. The fastest available connection is a cable modem, which means Time Warner. Typical download speed is between 20 and 30 Mbit/s. I also have a Verizon USB modem on my laptop, which works pretty well every place in the country except for Chapel Hill NC, and in my shop here on Main St. in Orange. A few years ago, I purchased an amplifier and 3 different antennas, but they haven't helped so far. The 3 antennas were necessary because Verizon refused to tell my what frequency band they use, or where the nearest cell tower was. Because their software doesn't include any kind of real-time signal strength indicator, aiming the antennas requires many hours of trial and error. Currently, the average signal strength ranges from -96db to -126db. I'm told -80db is the minimum for full bandwidth. On a good day, download approaches 1 Mbit/s. On a bad day, I can't even load the speed test site. BZ From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 16 09:17:07 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <-8412025706499534594@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <170375650.1863236.1300292227015.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Aaah, So!! Must have missed an email. Sorry :-\ -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> Larry knows that. He was addressing someone's question as to a possible explanation of a 0ms ping. From rich_ball at mindspring.com Wed Mar 16 09:22:50 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:22:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America References: Message-ID: <841CF5CADEA84161B491D953A65C0892@psych.washington.edu> Frank's son Frank does the printing and was willing modify the artwork and produce a run for us NOSHIT guys when we held our first meetup a couple years ago. I won't speak for the East coast guys, but I think all of us planning to be at the 50th from the Northwest have shirts already. If we needed more shirts for our guys, I'm sure Franks son would need to have a minimum run to make it cost effective. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" To: "SPRIDGETS" Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 8:37 AM Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America > It would be cool if everyone who is a part of these > groups who also attends the 50th at Road America > would bring the T-Shirts for a group picture. > I can bring a camera, tripod and remote shutter. > If you are but don't have a T-Shirt maybe you > can get one? If not join in the picture anyway! > Who has the shirts or knows where to get them? > > Rick Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 16 09:26:50 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Hours of Sebring this weekend Message-ID: Anyone going? I'm flying down this afternoon. I'll be working the admissions gate early tomorrow. I'll be wearing either a O.S.H.I.T. shirt or a Spridgets shirt Friday and Saturday. Wandering around the paddock or hanging out near the Bus by Turn 7. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! From rich_ball at mindspring.com Wed Mar 16 09:31:47 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:31:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts Message-ID: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> Since Rick brought up the question of shirt printing I was wondering who produced this shirt as modeled by Phil Jones in this photo. Can they still be had? Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P1010367.JPG] From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 09:34:10 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:34:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> References: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Yeah, mine are all greasy. BTW Pic didn't work. Post link to pic. From rich_ball at mindspring.com Wed Mar 16 09:37:47 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:37:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts References: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> OK so I forgot, no attachments. See the photo here: http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view¤t=P1010367.jpg > Since Rick brought up the question of shirt printing I was wondering who > produced this shirt as modeled by Phil Jones in this photo. Can they > still be > had? > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > P1010367.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 09:47:19 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:47:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> References: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Yes, those. Next time, can we represent the RWA crowd, too? From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Mar 16 09:48:53 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT in the news, sorta Message-ID: A couple of nights ago, I was inspired to wax on about you guys, the Organization of Spridget Handymen in Transit, and motorhead mail lists in general. Curious if anybody can identify themselves. www.kidsCURE.blogspot.com Let me know! JohnD Running the Rallye to Reno in a 1953 MG TD! From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com Wed Mar 16 09:55:56 2011 From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:55:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?12_Hours_of_Sebring_this_weekend?= Message-ID: Brian, I'm pulling out of my driveway right now. I'll be there by 3 today. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G ----- Reply message ----- From: "brian S" Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 12:26 pm Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Hours of Sebring this weekend To: "spridgets list" Anyone going? I'm flying down this afternoon. I'll be working the admissions gate early tomorrow. I'll be wearing either a O.S.H.I.T. shirt or a Spridgets shirt Friday and Saturday. Wandering around the paddock or hanging out near the Bus by Turn 7. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Mar 16 10:07:49 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> That's a "Toby" shirt. Designed by a former list member. I think Frank's father did the screen printing. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ball" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:37:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts OK so I forgot, no attachments. See the photo here: http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view¤t=P1010367.jpg > Since Rick brought up the question of shirt printing I was wondering who > produced this shirt as modeled by Phil Jones in this photo. Can they > still be > had? > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > P1010367.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 10:13:05 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:13:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: At one time, former list member Mike Graziano had made some silky button up shirts, with the logo embroidered on them... On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:07 PM, wrote: > That's a "Toby" shirt. Designed by a former list member. I think Frank's > father did the screen printing. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Ball" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:37:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts > > OK so I forgot, no attachments. See the photo here: > > http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view¤t=P1010367.jpg > > > > Since Rick brought up the question of shirt printing I was wondering who > > produced this shirt as modeled by Phil Jones in this photo. Can they > > still be > > had? > > > > Rich Ball > > '76 Midget > > Everett, WA > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of > > P1010367.JPG] > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 10:21:15 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:21:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pinto Stampede In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just hope the lead car doesn't have to slam on their brakes. The explosion would be LEGENDARY!!! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > Straight from the pages of the New York Times! > > The Ford Motor Company spent 2008 celebrating the centenary of its Model > T, while in 2009 the automaker sponsored a four-day celebration of its > vaunted Mustang. Though 2011 marks the 40th birthday of the Ford Pinto > compact car, Dearborn has not issued so much as a Tweet of recognition. > > But on May 29, a group of Ford Pinto owners will set off from Denver on > the Pinto Stampede , a road trip > spanning half the country. Participants will drive to Carlisle, Pa., on > June 2, where they hope to give the much-maligned car the 40th birthday > party they feel it truly deserves. > > JohnD > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Mar 16 11:31:50 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Trans Leak and Suspension Question Message-ID: <196132.6023.qm@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I took my Bugeye out for an errand yesterday. Great fun. A couple of problems I am having are not getting better by themselves. I need to pull the engine and transmission so I can swap out the after market synchros that Paul used when he rebuilt my trans with an original Datsun set he sent me, but there is another problem with the trans. It is leaking, bad. While I was at Lake of the Ozarks for the 50th celebration, my speedo angle drive loosened up and fell off. As low as it is, gear oil started to leak out. I have since re-installed the angle drive. Not easy through the shifter hole, but it continues to leak. Any of you recently install a Datsun trans remember if there is some kind of a sealing washer used with the angle drive? The other problem is with the suspension. Hard left turns produce more body roll than hard left turns. Could this be a problem with the camber of the wheels? I suspect this because the last set of front tires I had on the car wore differently. The left side had a lot of wear on the inside of the tire tread. I have had the car aligned, so that is not in the equation. Anyway a bad alignment would not produce more body roll on one side than the other. Any ideas. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Spinger From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 13:52:38 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:52:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Trans Leak and Suspension Question In-Reply-To: <196132.6023.qm@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <196132.6023.qm@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Somebody has to do it: Mike, If hard left turns are causing you so much grief, then only turn right! Seriously, I doubt that the camber is the cause of the problem. Since camber on our cars is not normally adjustable (unless you've installed some aftermarket eccentric bushes or more complex front suspension) I would consider the possibility of the right front spring having a lower rate than the left. Do you have a sway bar installed? If so it is possible that it is not straight and is causing a differential in the roll angle in right and left turns. A broken spring at either end of the car could also cause excessive roll in one direction. Hal From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Mar 16 14:32:03 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:32:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> References: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <9c4a79$bbjfig@email.mtu.edu> Rich, Please tell us a little about the 2 wheel trailer dolly shown in a few of the NOSHIT pictures. What is it made from? Not an old Windstar axle I hope! LOL Looks like it should work well. Tim >http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view¤t=P1010367.jpg > >>Rich Ball >>'76 Midget >>Everett, WA Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From grday at btinternet.com Wed Mar 16 14:41:22 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:41:22 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Trans Leak and Suspension Question References: <196132.6023.qm@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael, Check the dampers. You may find that just a front corner push down and release shows up a side to side discrepancy in bounce - rebound. Was it just the front wheel alignment you had checked or the whole car frame? Run your hand across the width of the tyre tread on the worn tyre to see if the tread is feathering or if it is worn down unevenly. If it is feathering, the wheels are out of alignment. If it is worn unevenly across the width of the tread it can be one or more of other reasons. Feathering, for those who don't know, is when there is a small lip on a tread edge producing a ratchet type of feel across of the width of the tread. It is a smooth feel one way and a far rougher one the other. The lip is always formed on the trailing edge so that tells you which way the wheel - tyre needs to be moved. If you find it you need to check the other wheel on the other side of the car and when aligning always make sure the steering wheel is straight and you should be adjusting both sides to keep the steering wheel straight. Those with a slight offset steering wheel can cure it by getting the front wheels aligned properly, it is not always the wheel and shaft splines being out! Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" <> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Trans Leak and Suspension Question > I took my Bugeye out for an errand yesterday. Great fun. A couple of > problems I am having are not getting better by themselves. I need to pull > the > engine and transmission so I can swap out the after market synchros that > Paul > used when he rebuilt my trans with an original Datsun set he sent me, but > there is another problem with the trans. It is leaking, bad. While I was > at > Lake of the Ozarks for the 50th celebration, my speedo angle drive > loosened up > and fell off. As low as it is, gear oil started to leak out. I have > since > re-installed the angle drive. Not easy through the shifter hole, but it > continues to leak. Any of you recently install a Datsun trans remember if > there is some kind of a sealing washer used with the angle drive? > The other problem is with the suspension. Hard left turns produce > more > body roll than hard left turns. Could this be a problem with the camber > of > the wheels? I suspect this because the last set of front tires I had on > the > car wore differently. The left side had a lot of wear on the inside of > the > tire tread. I have had the car aligned, so that is not in the equation. > Anyway a bad alignment would not produce more body roll on one side than > the > other. Any ideas. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Spinger > _______________________________________________ From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Wed Mar 16 15:01:09 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Remaining Spridget Parts In-Reply-To: <218959266.2592627.1300312852900.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1386059772.2592649.1300312869114.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hey guys: Earlier I sent a post telling you that I had a bunch of old Spridget parts, most of them new stuff, to sell, and would send a list to anyone who wanted to see it.B Several of you asked for a list and I have sold about half of what I had.B But I still have some stuff that someone might be interested in.B I don't think this is too commercial becauseB I am selling everything atB various levels of B loss--just trying to clear some space and get these things where they will be used.B If you are interested, here is the list of the remaining parts that I have for sale: Sprite/Midget parts for Sale: B 1 Bolt-in roll bar for Sprite or Midget.B $80 B Pick-Up only. B 1 full set + .020" Hepolite aluminum Midget 1500 pistons, with fitted rings and pins.B These are new old stock.B The pins have some minor surface rust from storage.B Either replaceB pins or have polished at machine shop.B B $90. B 1 fully rebuilt 1275 Sprite engine with Zero (0) miles on the rebuild.B I believe, but am not 100% sure that this engine has the rare ENB40 hardened crankshaft.B It has the Kent Road Cam, Moss part # 17-152 installed.B Chrome header andB Weber downdraft carburetor.B $900. B Pick-up Only. B 1 Brand new in package chrome plated license frame with "Austin Healey" insignia.B Made in U.S.A.B B $10 B B 2 sets rear axles for Spridget.B Used but excellent condition and clean.B $30 per pair. B 2 New in Box Sprite Square body rubber door gaskets.B B Genuine British Leyland parts.B Moss (259-835) lists for $149.95.B $80 B 1 New in box MoProd Brake and Clutch hose for 1275 Sprite clutch.B Vicky Brit # 7-150.B $10 B 1 New in box Austin Healey Sprite walnut shift knob with crest.B Moss # 278-760.B List 24.95.B $10 B 1 New in package Square body Sprite door pull.B Vicky Brit # 10-897.B List 14.95.B $5 B 2 New in package SuperFlo Air Filters for 1 1/2" SU Carbs.B Moss # 223-230, listed $46.95 EACH.B Both for $40 B 1 Oil Pressure switch for Midget 1500 engine.B Vicky Brit # 2-727.B List 5.45.B B $3 B 1 NOS 3 1/8" B pulley for 1275, I THINK for generator, but not sure.B Cated December, 1981.B Still in original box and oiled paper.B $25 B 5 Old-style Rostyle wheels, very rare.B Only installed on one year of Sprite as far as I can determine.B They are rusty and need refinishing, but are absolutely beautiful and unique in style.B I don't know the history of these wheels, but know they are rare.B $50 B -- B Pick-up only If you are interested in any of these parts, call me at 865-494-0734.B Thanks. --David C. THE SENILITY PRAYER : B Grant me the senility to forget the people B I never liked anyway, B The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and B The eyesight to tell the difference. From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 16 15:29:40 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <836980.57602.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mike had a "closeout" sale on the nice button up ones.... I got two! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Brad Fornal To: kgb at frontiernet.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:13:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts At one time, former list member Mike Graziano had made some silky button up shirts, with the logo embroidered on them... On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:07 PM, wrote: > That's a "Toby" shirt. Designed by a former list member. I think Frank's > father did the screen printing. > > Kate > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Ball" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:37:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts > > OK so I forgot, no attachments. See the photo here: > >http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view¤t=P1010367.jpg >g > > > > Since Rick brought up the question of shirt printing I was wondering who > > produced this shirt as modeled by Phil Jones in this photo. Can they > > still be > > had? > > > > Rich Ball > > '76 Midget > > Everett, WA > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of > > P1010367.JPG] > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Mar 16 16:08:17 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:08:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America In-Reply-To: <841CF5CADEA84161B491D953A65C0892@psych.washington.edu> References: <841CF5CADEA84161B491D953A65C0892@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <4D8142E1.4070208@comcast.net> On 3/16/2011 12:22 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > > If we needed more shirts for our guys, I'm sure Franks son would need > to have a minimum run to make it cost effective. > Minimum 1 dozen. If you want shirts, email him direct Frank Clarici -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From rich_ball at mindspring.com Wed Mar 16 16:43:10 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:43:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$bbjfig@email.mtu.edu> References: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <9c4a79$bbjfig@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Your close! It is a Bill M contraption fabricated out of the rear axle from a Chevy Celebrity. Maybe Bill will chime in here with a little more detail. Bill says it works great for local use. I don't think I would use it for a cross country trip. Another nice thing about it is that it can be leaned up against a wall when not in use, taking up a lot less room that an actual dolly Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:32 PM To: Richard Ball; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts Rich, Please tell us a little about the 2 wheel trailer dolly shown in a few of the NOSHIT pictures. What is it made from? Not an old Windstar axle I hope! LOL Looks like it should work well. Tim >http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view&cu rrent=P1010367.jpg > >>Rich Ball >>'76 Midget >>Everett, WA Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From lmacy at mac.com Wed Mar 16 17:01:18 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:01:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <836980.57602.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <836980.57602.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: THat old eastern bastard Gilroy is in some of the NOSHIT pics, with an original OSHIT t-shirt on. Good to see ya still breathing Bill!! Larry > > > >> That's a "Toby" shirt. Designed by a former list member. I think Frank's >> father did the screen printing. >> >> Kate >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Ball" >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:37:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts >> >> OK so I forgot, no attachments. See the photo here: >> >> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view¤t=P1010367.jpg >> g >> >> >>> Since Rick brought up the question of shirt printing I was wondering who >>> produced this shirt as modeled by Phil Jones in this photo. Can they >>> still be >>> had? >>> >>> Rich Ball >>> '76 Midget >>> Everett, WA >>> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name >> of >>> P1010367.JPG] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Mar 16 17:15:01 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:15:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu><1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <3374BA5F00C648BCA9C779C65F375091@RickPC> Mike still has shirts listed on his website. http://www.thehomeretreat.com/ProductPage.aspx?productid=1109 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts > At one time, former list member Mike Graziano had made some silky button > up > shirts, with the logo embroidered on them... From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 18:19:39 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:19:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: What happened to Mike? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > At one time, former list member Mike Graziano had made some silky button up > shirts, with the logo embroidered on them... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 18:28:31 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:28:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: He sold his car and dropped off the list. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:19 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > What happened to Mike? > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> At one time, former list member Mike Graziano had made some silky button >> up >> shirts, with the logo embroidered on them... >> >> -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 16 18:57:14 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:57:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$bbjfig@email.mtu.edu> References: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <9c4a79$bbjfig@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4D816A7A.7030901@justbrits.com> Tim: << ...about the 2 wheel trailer... >> Should you also wish some info about a 2-wheel "Travel Trailer" , you'll should visit [ pretty sure it 'held up' - LMAO ]: http://www.mgaguru.com/mg11.htm It **is** good for cross-country !! LOL ! Me From lmacy at mac.com Wed Mar 16 20:42:46 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:42:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <98917CF8-7954-48EC-B35E-41769AC7F52D@mac.com> He died, It was a tragic accident. He was taking all the left over Spridget shirts he had left to the auction house. They flew out of the Midget he was selling at the same auction. They flew under the rear wheels. Since some of them were red, the Texas Bulls saw them and charged. Mike managed to avoid getting hit by the bulls. As he went around the last corner on the way to the auction, he passed a large group of British car owners. They asked about the shirts. Mike said they were Spridget Shirts and that they were for the Spridget list folks. Seeing as how the Brits had no idea what a Spridget list was, they took his car. So Mike had to walk home, in the only shirt the Brits left him. a Red OSHIT shirt. Well as he was walking past the field of bulls, one of them saw red and on saw OSHIT. So no sooner than Mike could yell OSHIT, they were upon him. Now Mike, as a young man, could run a 4 min mile. As an old Texan. he could run a 1 minute yard. 3 yards into the chase the old bull caught him. He threw Mike up into the air and he landed on his back. The Bulls then proceeded to take Mike home, he had had enough for the day. When he got him his wife, not believing a second of the BS beat him to death. He is survived by a website and a lonely Midget, (well he is not really deaf, but he has no shirts left either) Larry On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:19 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > What happened to Mike? > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> At one time, former list member Mike Graziano had made some silky button up >> shirts, with the logo embroidered on them... > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." -Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 23:59:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:59:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, Between the NOSHIT and the OSHIT, The HOly SPrite and the Buster Cluster you are gonna need a wide angle lens.... On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > It would be cool if everyone who is a part of these > groups who also attends the 50th at Road America > would bring the T-Shirts for a group picture. > I can bring a camera, tripod and remote shutter. > If you are but don't have a T-Shirt maybe you > can get one? If not join in the picture anyway! > Who has the shirts or knows where to get them? > > Rick Bastedo > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 02:26:22 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:26:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <8467230467279390194@unknownmsgid> References: <4FE36C8414D54A30A5700E9979A74C07@HomePC> <1671454173.1699800.1299358148595.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <8467230467279390194@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hey Paul I hear working on the Fiero is awful what can you tell us about them? I personally always like them though never owned one. Lin On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paul Herder wrote: > Here is my list as far as I can remember... I may have left out a few > Fieros. I was in the hobby and had quite a few over the years. > > 1. 61 VW Beetle > 2. 70 AMC Gremlin (my first new car, Purchased on the first day they > sold them... 1 Apr 1970)) > 3. 70 Chevy Van > 4. 71 AMC Javelin > 5. 73 Ford Van > 6. 74 Mercury Capri > 7. 72 Mercury Capri > 8. 80 Ford Courier Pickup > 9. 84 Pontiac Fiero > 10. 85 Chevy Spectrum (wife s first new car) > 11. 86 Toyota Corolla GTS > 12. 86 Toyota MR2 > 13. 91 Honda Prelude > 14. 71 VW Karmann Ghia > 15. 72 VW Beetle (got it cheap from the dealer I worked at) > 16. 92 Mazda Protigi (wife's car) > 17. 94 Mazda MX6 > 18. 85 Pontiac Fiero (engine swap to Quad 4 auto) > 19. 86 Pontiac Fiero GT (became a Ferrari 308 and into Kit Car Magazine > May 1996) > 20. 87 Pontiac Fiero GT > 21. 88 Pontiac Fiero base w/factory T-Tops (one of 84) > 22. 88 Pontiac Fiero (another engine swap to Quad 4 5/speed) > 23. 88 Pontiac Fiero Base (sold for $1 to become a $200x race car - > never made it) > 24. 88 Pontiac Fiero Formula > 25. 88 Pontiac Fiero GT > 26. 95 GMC Extended Cab Pickup Truck * > 27. 91 Toyota MR2 > 28. 02 Mazda Protigi (wife s car) > 29. 05 Stalker V6 (I built!) > 30. 06 Honda Civic > 31. 66 AH Sprite * > 32. 09 Honda Civic Hybrid (wife s current car) * > 33. 10 Honda Insight Hybrid (my DD) * > > * currently owned > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From lmacy at mac.com Thu Mar 17 02:32:34 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:32:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Only if you are in the pic!! On Mar 17, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Rick, > Between the NOSHIT and the OSHIT, The HOly SPrite and the Buster Cluster you > are gonna need a wide angle lens.... > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > >> It would be cool if everyone who is a part of these >> groups who also attends the 50th at Road America >> would bring the T-Shirts for a group picture. >> I can bring a camera, tripod and remote shutter. >> If you are but don't have a T-Shirt maybe you >> can get one? If not join in the picture anyway! >> Who has the shirts or knows where to get them? >> >> Rick Bastedo >> > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen? Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 02:47:58 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:47:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 46, Issue 37 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd like to see what that combination iris blue and red interior looks like got a picture? Lin On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:28 AM, EASTJONES alan < alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote: > > 1. Re: Rubber Mats (Billy Zoom) > > 2. Re: Bugeye historical questions for reference see eBay#> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > My 1958 frogeye is iris blue with a red dashboard and seats with white > piping & black rubber mats also with long door handles etc > > But if I scratch the paint off near the door hinges and rear > suspension hanger it looks like it was originally very dark green. Oh! > and the 2 blade fan is and was originally painted red. > > However > A car known as and built for a foremans friend could, I gather, > get what he wanted built into his car i.e. car built using standard > parts available on the assembly line - but creating a non standard > car. (i.e. not a publicly advertised retail stock car) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 02:57:52 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:57:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Sendai In-Reply-To: <64A81259719D498A9AD36CCCBB6F3B0D@Home> References: <64A81259719D498A9AD36CCCBB6F3B0D@Home> Message-ID: Michael please keep us posted I still haven't received a reply from my aunt & uncle in Carmel, CA who's relatives are both from Japan and Hawaii. I have to call them soon. Lin On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > An in-law, 23 years old teaching high school English in Sendai, just got > through to the family this morning. Not only is he OK, but was in a part of > Sendai that was untouched. He has even gotten electricity and water back. > What a story to tell his children. > > He will help the displaced to the extent he can. It is a terrible way to > do it, I know, but he has been having trouble finding friends his age > (especially girls). I expect disaster work will introduce him to a lot of > local people he would not otherwise meet. > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 04:48:54 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:48:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> References: <5C96D7245FAB4C0CAAC43DDF3F8E5962@psych.washington.edu> <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: I love the name NOSHIT! It always puts a smile on my face. : ) Lin On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > OK so I forgot, no attachments. See the photo here: > > http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/?action=view¤t=P1010367.jpg > > > Since Rick brought up the question of shirt printing I was wondering who >> produced this shirt as modeled by Phil Jones in this photo. Can they >> still be >> had? >> >> Rich Ball >> '76 Midget >> Everett, WA >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of >> P1010367.JPG] >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 04:51:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:51:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <3374BA5F00C648BCA9C779C65F375091@RickPC> References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <3374BA5F00C648BCA9C779C65F375091@RickPC> Message-ID: And I don't see any "Pink" ones : ( Lin On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Mike still has shirts listed on his website. > > http://www.thehomeretreat.com/ProductPage.aspx?productid=1109 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts > > > At one time, former list member Mike Graziano had made some silky button >> up >> shirts, with the logo embroidered on them... >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 17 05:55:22 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:55:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: <98917CF8-7954-48EC-B35E-41769AC7F52D@mac.com> References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu>, <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>, , , <98917CF8-7954-48EC-B35E-41769AC7F52D@mac.com> Message-ID: So .. you're saying that he died, but he's not deaf? ;) Robert D > From: lmacy at mac.com > > He died, > ...> > (well he is not really deaf, but he has no shirts left either) > Larry > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:19 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > > > What happened to Mike? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 07:46:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:46:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > Only if you are in the pic!! > Doh!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 07:50:08 2011 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Remaining Spridget Parts + 1972 RWA! In-Reply-To: <1386059772.2592649.1300312869114.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <251496.76810.qm@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have the perfect car to go with the motor dlancer is selling! Due to my nagging injuries, and illness I don't have the time and energy to fix up this 1972 RWA Midget. The motor in my car has like new carbs and comes with a new exhaust pipe (made in UK), nice top and other great parts. I live about 40 miles west of David and will be happy to talk to you about my car if you would be interested in buying my 1972 RWA Midget (Bobbie MG). Send me your addy and digits if you want to talk about my car for sale. BTW I have seen David's rebuilt motor on the stand. Thanks, Lon --- On Wed, 3/16/11, dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net Subject: [Spridgets] Remaining Spridget Parts To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 5:01 PM Hey guys: Earlier I sent a post telling you that I had a bunch of old Spridget parts, Sprite/Midget parts for Sale: 1 fully rebuilt 1275 Sprite engine with Zero (0) miles on the rebuild.B I believe, but am not 100% sure that this engine has the rare ENB40 hardened crankshaft.B It has the Kent Road Cam, Moss part # 17-152 installed.B Chrome header andB Weber downdraft carburetor.B $900. B Pick-up Only. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 17 07:54:59 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:54:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110317145459.T0ZUH.11037.root@cdptpa-web01-z02> The best features of the Fiero are that you can put a V8 in it and a kit-car body on it. > Hey Paul I hear working on the Fiero is awful what can you tell us about > them? I personally always like them though never owned one. From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 17 08:47:22 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <20110317145459.T0ZUH.11037.root@cdptpa-web01-z02> References: <20110317145459.T0ZUH.11037.root@cdptpa-web01-z02> Message-ID: <959113.75031.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Which is an exercise in taking something of little value, spending a lot of $ on it and making it totally worthless. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: "bjshov8 at tx.rr.com" The best features of the Fiero are that you can put a V8 in it and a kit-car body on it. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 15:15:15 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:15:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads Message-ID: Hi All, I'm collecting parts in preparation for rebuilding our original Bugeye 948 engine. I researched "Vizard's" book and I can either put on a 12G295 head or a rare 12G206 head, and yes I have both. The engine will be balanced, new 998 pistons using the better head and stock H1 carbs with upgraded jets. I'm just looking for a stock looking engine with a bit more HP. The question is... which is the better head, the 12G295 OR the rare 12G206? And why, or does it make a difference? Cheers, Curt & Nancy From shop at justbrits.com Thu Mar 17 15:22:16 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:22:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT - NOSHIT & Road America In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D828998.4040509@justbrits.com> << > > Only if you are in the pic!! > > > Doh!! >> More like DUH !!! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Mar 17 16:38:02 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6AC3F48147704127B5698D7A824223E2@blackbox2> No big difference. Same valve, size same chamber volume. You should ask yourself, "Why did they go to the 295 from the earlier 206?" OR "Why are the 206s so rare?" Might it be they improved things? Since you have both on hand, why don't you look them over and tell us what difference you see (besides the number) I would go with the 295 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Curt/Nancy Arndt Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:15 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads Hi All, I'm collecting parts in preparation for rebuilding our original Bugeye 948 engine. I researched "Vizard's" book and I can either put on a 12G295 head or a rare 12G206 head, and yes I have both. The engine will be balanced, new 998 pistons using the better head and stock H1 carbs with upgraded jets. I'm just looking for a stock looking engine with a bit more HP. The question is... which is the better head, the 12G295 OR the rare 12G206? And why, or does it make a difference? Cheers, Curt & Nancy From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 17 16:38:20 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:38:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <959113.75031.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <20110317145459.T0ZUH.11037.root@cdptpa-web01-z02> <959113.75031.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D829B6C.2060801@tx.rr.com> Doesn't that describe all of the cars that we work on here? > Which is an exercise in taking something of little value, spending a lot of $ on > it and making it totally worthless. > > > > The best features of the Fiero are that you can put a V8 in it and a kit-car > > body on it. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 16:45:58 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads In-Reply-To: <6AC3F48147704127B5698D7A824223E2@blackbox2> Message-ID: <707329.87756.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I wonder how much improvement you're going to see without a cam, carb and exhaust change. I have a stock 295 head with 998 pistons, but also have an 88G 229 cam, HS2 carbs and an LCB manifold. Not positive, but I think unless you're going to increase the fuel/air flow with a bigger cam and carbs, you're not going to see much difference. As it is, I'm probably looking at only 55 bhp with my combo. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 3/17/11, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads To: "'Curt/Nancy Arndt'" , "'Spridgets'" Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:38 PM No big difference. Same valve, size same chamber volume. You should ask yourself, "Why did they go to the 295 from the earlier 206?" OR "Why are the 206s so rare?" Might it be they improved things? Since you have both on hand, why don't you look them over and tell us what difference you see (besides the number) I would go with the 295 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Curt/Nancy Arndt Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:15 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads Hi All, I'm collecting parts in preparation for rebuilding our original Bugeye 948 engine. I researched "Vizard's" book and I can either put on a 12G295 head or a rare 12G206 head, and yes I have both. The engine will be balanced, new 998 pistons using the better head and stock H1 carbs with upgraded jets. I'm just looking for a stock looking engine with a bit more HP. The question is... which is the better head, the 12G295 OR the rare 12G206? And why, or does it make a difference? Cheers, Curt & Nancy Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Mar 17 16:55:55 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:55:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought the 12G295 head was for a 1098. Are you going to mill it to bring up the compression? From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 17:12:41 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <593179.65617.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Billy, The 295 head is a 1098 head. However, with flat top pistons and a .30 overbore on a 948, the compression works out to be about 9.5:1, which is pretty good with today's 91 octane pump gas. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 3/17/11, Billy Zoom wrote: From: Billy Zoom Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads To: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" , "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:55 PM I thought the 12G295 head was for a 1098. Are you going to mill it to bring up the compression? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 18:02:23 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads In-Reply-To: <707329.87756.qm@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <687572.65274.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 3/17/11, HealeyRick wrote: > positive, but I think unless > you're going to increase the fuel/air flow with a bigger > cam and carbs, you're > not going to see much difference. Absolutely correct. Your engine is a pump, that's it. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 18:49:51 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:49:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR Message-ID: Hey Gals & Guys, Remember Les's site? Where might he be these days and is there a way this list/group could continue on with the site??? Herb http://www.members.tripod.com/PDLJMPR/techin.htm#Tachometer -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From neilandcustom at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 18:50:55 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:50:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 head Message-ID: <001501cbe50e$f0084dd0$d018e970$@com> Hey guys, A fellow member of our Chicago Healey club needs a 1275 head. He sent his in to have a little machine work done and they found that it is cracked. He has all the parts, plus new guides and valve stem seals to put it back together, so just needs a good bare head. If you can help, please contact: Dan Anderson @ andy506 at sbcglobal.net Thanks. Neil Anderson (no relation to Dan, well maybe 1000 years ago) From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Mar 17 19:04:47 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:04:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> On 3/17/2011 9:49 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Hey Gals& Guys, > > Remember Les's site? Where might he be these days and is there a way this > list/group could continue on with the site??? > > Herb > > http://www.members.tripod.com/PDLJMPR/techin.htm#Tachometer > I was in touch with Les about a year ago. He is long out of Spridgets, married a Russian babe and just gave up on PDLJMPR. He did ask me if I knew anyone who was willing to take it over. So if anyone wants the project, go for it. I do not have an email for Les right now but he does email me every once in a while. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From cnaarndt at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 19:56:22 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:56:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads In-Reply-To: <243911.12512.qm@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <243911.12512.qm@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob, Thanks for that, but I know I'll need to either deck the head or get flat top or domed pistons to get the CR back to where it needs to be. *I'm just looking to find out if there is any advantage to the 12G206 head over the 12G295 one.* Since this is a Concours car, I'm just looking at doing a few things to pep it up slightly while retaining the original look externally. After 40 years of working with Spridgets I know how to build a non original looking, "cooking" engine. But that's not where I'm going with this car. BTW regarding the bigger carburetors, exhaust and cam. I'll get all the extra air flow I need from the better head, with the bigger valves, and other head modifications. The stock H1s (will some jet/needle mods) will give me faster airflow (Bernoulli) versus more volume, which I really don't need since I'm not going that overboard with this engine. 49 to 50 HP will be fine. Cheers, Curt On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > Curt and Nancy, > Going to the 295 head is a big improvement but one thing to consider is > that the combustion chamber on the original Bugeye head is 24.5cc while the > 295 head is 28.3cc thus lowering your C/R unless the 998 pistons are flat > tops. Below is a URL to get charts for figuring yur C/R. > csgnetwork.com/automotiveconverters Scroll down to Engine Compression > Ratio Calculator. Just put in the numbers.... > I had a 998 engine with the flat top pistons and the 295 head in a Mini > many years ago and up to about 60mph is was just about as fast as my 1275 > Cooper.. > Hope this helps, > Bob > > > --- On *Thu, 3/17/11, Curt/Nancy Arndt * wrote: > > > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > Subject: [Spridgets] 948/998 Heads > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 6:15 PM > > Hi All, > > I'm collecting parts in preparation for rebuilding our original Bugeye 948 > engine. I researched "Vizard's" book and I can either put on a 12G295 > head > or a rare 12G206 head, and yes I have both. The engine will be balanced, > new 998 pistons using the better head and stock H1 carbs with upgraded > jets. I'm just looking for a stock looking engine with a bit more HP. > > The question is... which is the better head, the 12G295 OR the rare 12G206? > And why, or does it make a difference? > > Cheers, > > Curt & Nancy From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 20:01:53 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR Message-ID: <176738.98316.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 3/17/11, Frank Clarici wrote: > I was in touch with Les about a year ago. > He is long out of Spridgets, married a Russian babe and If I remember correctly, he married her 12 years ago. She's gotta be almost 30 by now. > He did ask me if I knew anyone who was willing to take it > over. As the site alludes to, Bill Schickling took it over for an issue or two - does anyone know what happened to Bill? Damn, lots of things on there that make me feel old - Frank's exit109 site, many, many names no longer on the list...jeez. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 20:13:12 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Japan photo Message-ID: <341522.85383.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This post-tsunami image is gut wrenching buta really striking - imagine if this were the United States. The Japanese are amazing. www.tinyurl.com/japan-yahoo-pic Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 20:32:00 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Japan photo Message-ID: <525059.61616.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This post-tsunami image is gut wrenching buta really striking - imagine if this were the United States. The Japanese are amazing. www.tinyurl.com/japan-yahoo-pic Ron From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 02:34:41 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:34:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I emailed him several times to have my students build a new site but never heard back from him. I'll give a hand if needed. It's a cool site that could look awesome with the right server and added features. Lin On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:49 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Hey Gals & Guys, > > Remember Les's site? Where might he be these days and is there a way this > list/group could continue on with the site??? > > Herb > > http://www.members.tripod.com/PDLJMPR/techin.htm#Tachometer > > -- > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 02:37:44 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:37:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Japan photo In-Reply-To: <341522.85383.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <341522.85383.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We could all learn something about the Japanese people and their calmness during such horrific times. I should buy a Toyota or Honda to honor them and help their economy : ) Lin On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > This post-tsunami image is gut wrenching buta really striking - imagine if > this were the United States. The Japanese are amazing. > > www.tinyurl.com/japan-yahoo-pic > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From andyflint26 at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 04:39:47 2011 From: andyflint26 at gmail.com (Andy Flint) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 07:39:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Email Message-ID: <36E9A63A-4814-4BBB-87D0-9094AA14D287@gmail.com> andyflint26 at gmail.com Sent from my VeriPhone From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 05:26:19 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:26:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> References: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> Message-ID: So... If I just downloaded the site and set it up on my server, would anyone object? Basically just mirroring it in case the old tripod site goes away like geocities did. -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > On 3/17/2011 9:49 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > >> Hey Gals& Guys, >> >> Remember Les's site? Where might he be these days and is there a way this >> list/group could continue on with the site??? >> >> Herb >> >> http://www.members.tripod.com/PDLJMPR/techin.htm#Tachometer >> >> I was in touch with Les about a year ago. > He is long out of Spridgets, married a Russian babe and just gave up on > PDLJMPR. > He did ask me if I knew anyone who was willing to take it over. > So if anyone wants the project, go for it. I do not have an email for Les > right now but he does email me every once in a while. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Mar 18 05:42:19 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:42:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: References: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5D7D0BEC6FAB4F6BBAEA6023DC69CCFC@spider> ...just in case. Fine with me. ...bill in corvallis =================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:26 AM To: Frank Clarici Cc: Spridgeteers Subject: Re: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR So... If I just downloaded the site and set it up on my server, would anyone object? Basically just mirroring it in case the old tripod site goes away like geocities did. -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 05:54:44 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:54:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: <5D7D0BEC6FAB4F6BBAEA6023DC69CCFC@spider> References: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> <5D7D0BEC6FAB4F6BBAEA6023DC69CCFC@spider> Message-ID: <4D835614.4010101@comcast.net> > So... If I just downloaded the site and set it up on my server, would anyone > object? Basically just mirroring it in case the old tripod site goes away > like geocities did. > I think Les would like to see it back on line. Just keep his name as the founder. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From pchast at francomm.com Fri Mar 18 06:17:08 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:17:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: <4D835614.4010101@comcast.net> References: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> <5D7D0BEC6FAB4F6BBAEA6023DC69CCFC@spider> <4D835614.4010101@comcast.net> Message-ID: Well said Frank. I'm for it too. On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:54:44 -0400, Frank Clarici wrote: > >> So... If I just downloaded the site and set it up on my server, would >> anyone >> object? Basically just mirroring it in case the old tripod site goes >> away >> like geocities did. >> > I think Les would like to see it back on line. > Just keep his name as the founder. > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 18 07:39:43 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:39:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <4D829B6C.2060801@tx.rr.com> References: <20110317145459.T0ZUH.11037.root@cdptpa-web01-z02>, <959113.75031.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <4D829B6C.2060801@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: :) No, I don't think so. I think we spend more money on them than they will resell for, but I think the enjoyment that we get from them is worth the price we pay ( in most cases). Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) > From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com > > Doesn't that describe all of the cars that we work on here? > > > > Which is an exercise in taking something of little value, spending a lot of $ on > > it and making it totally worthless. > > > > > > > The best features of the Fiero are that you can put a V8 in it and a kit-car > > > body on it. > _______________________________________________ From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Mar 18 08:08:25 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:08:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: References: <20110317145459.T0ZUH.11037.root@cdptpa-web01-z02> <959113.75031.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4D829B6C.2060801@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: >the enjoyment that we get from them is worth the price we pay ( in most >cases). I agree. Add up the prices people pay for tickets to ball games, concerts, shows, etc. Our cars may cost less than some recreations and certainly last longer (in most cases). Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 18 08:17:11 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:17:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Japan photo In-Reply-To: <525059.61616.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <525059.61616.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm so far behind on my emails that I don't know if this was done before. http://tinyurl.com/49arhx9 It's ABC's before and after pictures of Japan. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > > This post-tsunami image is gut wrenching buta really striking - imagine if this were the United States. The Japanese are amazing. > > www.tinyurl.com/japan-yahoo-pic > > Ron From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 08:22:15 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:22:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: References: <20110317145459.T0ZUH.11037.root@cdptpa-web01-z02> <959113.75031.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4D829B6C.2060801@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: And I think that this could apply just as well to the concept of taking a Fiero and inserting a V8 and installing a body kit (yes, for a time there the Fiero was the successor of the Beetle as a platform on which to build your fantasy. Not sure who took over). Always kinda wanted one of those, but then there is a long list of kinda wanteds... Model A pickup, MG TD, Airline Coupe... the list has and always will exceed space in the garage. David L From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 18 08:24:22 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Cars we have owned - or own! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1045640650.1894438.1300461862939.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> A few years ago, in response to a caustic comment from a workmate, I did the math. We found that my flying lessons + equipment was cheaper than his golf lessons + equipment! But that was when a Cessna 150 was $20/hour - wet! It all depepnds on your point of view. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" I agree. Add up the prices people pay for tickets to ball games, concerts, shows, etc. Our cars may cost less than some recreations and certainly last longer (in most cases). From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 18 08:27:43 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1860658982.1894509.1300462063412.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> My neighbor, four doors down, inherited a beautiful Essex 6 from his dad. That was five years ago. He parked it in his car port and hasn't touched it since. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> Model A pickup, MG TD, Airline Coupe... the list has and always will exceed space in the garage. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri Mar 18 08:43:59 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:43:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110318154359.QFR8G.24726.root@cdptpa-web05-z02> I've read that the 5 most expensive hobbies are (in no particular order): cars boats airplanes horses women The only one of these I've done as a hobby is cars. You can certainly do cars the expensive way, and the really really expensive way, or you can do it economically too. I've had other hobbies that could be expensive on occasion but I like to think that all of my hobbies together are less expensive than a bass boat, and lots of people have those things setting around depreciating. > >the enjoyment that we get from them is worth the price we pay ( in most > >cases). > > I agree. Add up the prices people pay for tickets to ball games, concerts, > shows, etc. Our cars may cost less than some recreations and certainly last > longer (in most cases). From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 18 09:15:26 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:15:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <1860658982.1894509.1300462063412.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: , <1860658982.1894509.1300462063412.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Ooh! That's sad. I guess there isn't much market anymore for pre-war cars. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:27:43 +0000 > From: kk7ss at frontier.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned > > My neighbor, four doors down, inherited a beautiful Essex 6 from his dad. > That was five years ago. > He parked it in his car port and hasn't touched it since. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > > Model A pickup, MG TD, Airline Coupe... the list has and always will > exceed space in the garage. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robertduquette at sympatico.ca From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 09:22:22 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:22:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: mileage vs. age - Now cars we have owned In-Reply-To: <20110318154359.QFR8G.24726.root@cdptpa-web05-z02> References: <20110318154359.QFR8G.24726.root@cdptpa-web05-z02> Message-ID: I've been involved with all of these over the years though not all as hobbies. I can definitely say (being on my 3rd marriage) that "women" win out as the most expensive followed closely by airplanes. I would put cars next followed by boats and finally horses. Unfortunately, the list leaves off motorcycles which I would put right behind airplanes.... Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM, wrote: > I've read that the 5 most expensive hobbies are (in no particular order): > cars > boats > airplanes > horses > women > > The only one of these I've done as a hobby is cars. You can certainly do > cars the expensive way, and the really really expensive way, or you can do > it economically too. I've had other hobbies that could be expensive on > occasion but I like to think that all of my hobbies together are less > expensive than a bass boat, and lots of people have those things setting > around depreciating. > > > > >the enjoyment that we get from them is worth the price we pay ( in most > > >cases). > > > > I agree. Add up the prices people pay for tickets to ball games, > concerts, > > shows, etc. Our cars may cost less than some recreations and certainly > last > > longer (in most cases). From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 18 09:30:38 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1949 WILLYS JEEP In-Reply-To: References: <4D829934.3020302@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <897341.25729.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's an amazing demonstration, but I would not recommend taking it off of that smooth parade road till somebody actually bolted the body back onto the frame... - David From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 09:46:58 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:46:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1949 WILLYS JEEP In-Reply-To: <897341.25729.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4D829934.3020302@bigpond.net.au> <897341.25729.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <-4941128238569966211@unknownmsgid> Nor driving it very far with only two lugnuts per wheel, a dry radiator, etc. David L On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:35, David Booker wrote: > That's an amazing demonstration, but I would not recommend taking it off of > that > smooth parade road till somebody actually bolted the body back onto the > frame... > > > - David > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget at gmail.com From lmacy at mac.com Fri Mar 18 10:33:51 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:33:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Japan photo In-Reply-To: References: <525059.61616.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is pretty close to what the NY Times did: or, for Ed: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4ab95lg Still a huge mess, no matter where the images come from. Larry On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I'm so far behind on my emails that I don't know if this was done before. > http://tinyurl.com/49arhx9 > It's ABC's before and after pictures of Japan. > > Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada > >> >> This post-tsunami image is gut wrenching buta really striking - imagine if > this were the United States. The Japanese are amazing. >> >> www.tinyurl.com/japan-yahoo-pic >> >> Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it." --Buckminster Fuller From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 13:11:26 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:11:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Has Anyone Had Dealings With This Company ? Message-ID: Looks like a drop shipping operation to me . . which means, as mentioned you would do better price wise going direct to Pierce. I have bought direct from Pierce and I have nothing but good things to say about them. Also, if they are doing drop shipping, you will have a longer wait to get the part/s. (Pierce does actually work with eBay sellers as a drop shipper). Just my cent or two. . Kirk From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 13:37:41 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:37:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: References: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> <5D7D0BEC6FAB4F6BBAEA6023DC69CCFC@spider> <4D835614.4010101@comcast.net> Message-ID: sounds cool. Lin On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Pete Chast wrote: > Well said Frank. > I'm for it too. > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:54:44 -0400, Frank Clarici > wrote: > > >> So... If I just downloaded the site and set it up on my server, would >>> anyone >>> object? Basically just mirroring it in case the old tripod site goes >>> away >>> like geocities did. >>> >>> I think Les would like to see it back on line. >> Just keep his name as the founder. >> >> > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From millerls at ado13.com Fri Mar 18 14:05:07 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:05:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: References: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> Message-ID: Goforit Trevor. I doubt Les will mind. Larry Miller From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 14:28:46 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:28:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings eMagazines Message-ID: I just noticed that Hemmings is now making their entire line of magazines available in electronic format. Not for everyone, but it is very well done and even cheaper than the print versions. $12/year for the big one and $7/year for each of the newer ones like Sports & Exotic Cars, Muscle Cars, and Antique Cars. There is even a special deal if you want all of them which amounts to one of them for free. I called and had them convert my paper subscription to electronic and they immediately emailed me the links for the current issue. Looks quite nice that way, although I could cheerfully dispense with the sound effects for turning the page. NFI, just happen to enjoy HSEC and thought I would mention it to y'all. David L From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 18 15:18:08 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings eMagazines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, David, that's a pretty good price. I just got an email from Hemmings offering an "early bird" renewal on my Sports and Exotic Car for $18.95 for 1 year which, coincidentally, is also their normal subscription rate. They called it their "best offer ever". What a deal! And, to get that extraordinary price, they want me to renew 7 months early. OK! LAD -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 4:28 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings eMagazines I just noticed that Hemmings is now making their entire line of magazines available in electronic format. Not for everyone, but it is very well done and even cheaper than the print versions. $12/year for the big one and $7/year for each of the newer ones like Sports & Exotic Cars, Muscle Cars, and Antique Cars. There is even a special deal if you want all of them which amounts to one of them for free. I called and had them convert my paper subscription to electronic and they immediately emailed me the links for the current issue. Looks quite nice that way, although I could cheerfully dispense with the sound effects for turning the page. NFI, just happen to enjoy HSEC and thought I would mention it to y'all. David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Mar 18 16:45:25 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:45:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] buy front coil springs Message-ID: Where do I buy front coil springs for a 1979 MG Midget? .bill in corvallis From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 17:24:00 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:24:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR In-Reply-To: References: <4D82BDBF.30006@comcast.net> Message-ID: Trevor, IMHO, that would be a BIG PLUS for the 'Spridget Community' (other LBC's as well). Like Ron said "lots of things on there...." Yes, many folks off the list now, and a couple in-spirit only. Perhaps, with all the talent we have on the list, new articles could be sent to you for posting. Must be additional 'links' as well. Herb On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > So... If I just downloaded the site and set it up on my server, would > anyone > object? Basically just mirroring it in case the old tripod site goes away > like geocities did. > > -Trevor > PS > Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 17:27:33 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:27:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] buy front coil springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Bill, My two cents on springs: I put 500 pound Huffaker's on FROGGI when I restored it in '78 (or so). I WOULDN'T DO THAT AGAIN!!! Even as primarily an auto-x car, way too stiff. Herb On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:45 PM, wrote: > Where do I buy front coil springs for a 1979 MG Midget? > > .bill in corvallis > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/froggi60 at gmail.com > > -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Mar 18 17:37:02 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:37:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] buy front coil springs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > coil springs for a 1979 MG Midget? You sure you want it that tall? From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Mar 18 17:41:30 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:41:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] buy front coil springs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4174049615274ACDB518E92DF5BD2943@spider> Well, right now it has a real bad front end squat. What am I missing here? I'm trying to spend $3000 on it so I can sell it to one of you for $1500. ...bill in corvallis ======================================== -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:37 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] buy front coil springs > coil springs for a 1979 MG Midget? You sure you want it that tall? From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 17:43:07 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:43:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Japan photo In-Reply-To: References: <341522.85383.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: They hold tradition and honor dear. They are still taught 'respect'...respect for others and respect for self. Things "we" have long lost. Herb On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > We could all learn something about the Japanese people and their calmness > during such horrific times From lmacy at mac.com Sat Mar 19 03:04:53 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 06:04:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Philly Swap Meet References: <1622591830.1372483.1300505649746.JavaMail.root@sz0133a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: ANNUAL BRITISH & AMERICAN CAR PARTS FLEA MARKET Hosted By Philadelphia MG Club Sunday, April 10th 8:00 am  1:00 pm Location: Steves Complete Car Care 6904 Castor Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19149 Dust off all your automobile goodies: Parts, Signs, Books, Toys, Jewelry, Magazines, Tools, Models, Pictures, Manuals VENDORS - $10 per space (spaces limited) Refreshments Available Contact Information: Chuck Miller: (267) 241-9554 [porsh911t at comcast.net] Steve Pilla: (267) 767-8150 [1sccc at verizon.net] Contact by 4/1/11 to reserve a space -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 The bottom line: Sure, there's pain in adopting the Mac. But if I accept that, I get to use a computer that works, and that pretty much does what I expect and want a computer to do. Stewart Alsop FORTUNE.com Monday, June 25, 2001 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 09:04:41 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:04:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? Message-ID: Ebay # 360352817953 -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 19 09:30:04 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:30:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D84DA0C.2090608@justbrits.com> << Ebay # 360352817953 >> I've seen worse, Jim. I Forwarded to The Healeys at AutoX List, so tnx. Ed From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sat Mar 19 09:40:14 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:40:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201103191640.p2JGeYPh009635@mail.usimperio.com> Don't know what the reserve is but it is already $5000 over what it's worth. Of course Frank could have it redone in a week ;-) Dave At 12:04 PM 3/19/2011, you wrote: >Ebay # 360352817953 > >-- >Cheers!! >Jim Johnson From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 09:44:12 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:44:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Ebay # 360352817953 But it matches your Spridget so well and it is in Kansas... HOW can you pass it up??? David L From jfishbein at snet.net Sat Mar 19 10:30:23 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497650.48867.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Could be a straightforward project f the dash is already out, jay fishbein Wallingford, CT ________________________________ From: Jim Johnson To: Spridgets ; Sprite ; Yahoo Spridget list Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 12:04:41 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? Ebay # 360352817953 From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 19 12:44:49 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Help needed on Moris Minor 1000 In-Reply-To: <1095394836.1907790.1300563673463.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <233428314.1907823.1300563889330.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The dizzy has a vacuum diaphram but is not connected. I can see nowhere on the carb where I can connect the vacuum line from the dizzy. There is no vacuum take-off point. BUT... fitted on the intake manifold, below and to the right of the carb and on the same face that the carb connects to, is a wierd black 'dingus' that has a part that I can move in and out. It has a small hole in the end that moves that looks like it would take a small copper pipe. Is that where I should connect the vacuum line? I can find no reference to it in the Workshop Manual or parts manual that I downloaded.. The casting number on the manifold is 2A718 and the letters VAF are below that. It seems to have a bit of green paint left .. Can anyone help (also posted to the MorrisMinor Group!) Thanks -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 19 15:36:31 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:36:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: <201103191640.p2JGeYPh009635@mail.usimperio.com> References: , <201103191640.p2JGeYPh009635@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: Nah! He might be able to. But, I believe Frank has sworn off working on non-ford 'trucks'. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:40:14 -0400 > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? > > Don't know what the reserve is but it is already $5000 over what it's > worth. Of course Frank could have it redone in a week ;-) > > Dave > > > At 12:04 PM 3/19/2011, you wrote: > >Ebay # 360352817953 > > > >-- > >Cheers!! > >Jim Johnson > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/robertduquette at sympatico.ca From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 19 15:42:00 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:42:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [MG-MGB] Mini on Craigslist] Message-ID: <4D853138.3000403@justbrits.com> Da*n, I WISH this was closer to me !!! Frank, "ripe" for you !! -------- Original Message -------- http://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/2272658819.html They call it a Mini Cooper, but I'm not sure if it is or not. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 19 15:49:53 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:49:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: References: , <201103191640.p2JGeYPh009635@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <4D853311.4070308@justbrits.com> << *But, I believe Frank has sworn off working on non-ford 'trucks'. * *Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada* >> Interest "comment" from an "interesting" person....................... ! "considering"........................ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 19 16:30:44 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:30:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: <4D853311.4070308@justbrits.com> References: , , <201103191640.p2JGeYPh009635@mail.usimperio.com>, , <4D853311.4070308@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Well ... I try to be interesting. I have to try really hard. :) I didn't say that I shared the view that big healeys were trucks; I'm just saying that Frank has expressed his opinion. And, we're all entitled to one, aren't we? Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > From: shop at justbrits.com > > << *But, I believe Frank has sworn off working on non-ford 'trucks'. > * > > *Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada* >> > > Interest "comment" from an "interesting" person....................... ! > > "considering"........................ > _______________________________________________ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 16:46:11 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:46:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: References: <201103191640.p2JGeYPh009635@mail.usimperio.com> <4D853311.4070308@justbrits.com> Message-ID: According to Frank, they are not trucks, they are tractors.... On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Well ... I try to be interesting. I have to try really hard. :) > > I didn't say that I shared the view that big healeys were trucks; I'm just > saying that Frank has expressed his opinion. And, we're all entitled to > one, > aren't we? > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > From: shop at justbrits.com > > > > << *But, I believe Frank has sworn off working on non-ford 'trucks'. > > * > > > > *Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada* >> > > > > Interest "comment" from an "interesting" person....................... > ! > > > > "considering"........................ > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 19 16:57:31 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <225776.44710.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Kind of a redundant question to be asking a bunch of Spridget owners, isn't it? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? To: "Spridgets" , "Sprite" , "Yahoo Spridget list" Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:04 PM Ebay # 360352817953 -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 19 16:59:41 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <553196.27838.qm@web161208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Everyone knows painting them pink decreases their handling capabilities by 50% Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Brad Fornal wrote: From: Brad Fornal Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? To: "Robert Duquette" Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:46 PM According to Frank, they are not trucks, they are tractors.... On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Well ... I try to be interesting. I have to try really hard. :) > > I didn't say that I shared the view that big healeys were trucks; I'm just > saying that Frank has expressed his opinion. And, we're all entitled to > one, > aren't we? > > > Robert Duquette > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > From: shop at justbrits.com > > > > << *But, I believe Frank has sworn off working on non-ford 'trucks'. > > * > > > > *Robert Duquette > > Ottawa ON Canada* >> > > > > Interest "comment" from an "interesting" person....................... > ! > > > > "considering"........................ > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 19 17:17:50 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:17:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: <553196.27838.qm@web161208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <553196.27838.qm@web161208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D8547AE.3060507@justbrits.com> << Everyone knows painting them pink decreases their handling capabilities by 50% >> Rick, then Frank's "resto" [not even ] has LESS than 50% because it has pink in the interior ALSO !!!! Anon PS: -:) From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 17:21:36 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:21:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help ID this roll bar? Message-ID: Anyone know what years Spridgets this fits? http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3816/mgrollbar1.jpg http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6621/mgrollbar2.jpg From twobees at sprynet.com Sat Mar 19 17:26:50 2011 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Video Coverage or Lack Thereof Message-ID: <000201cbe695$81f231c0$6401a8c0@normoffice> When I had time, I would get to Sebring early Saturday morning, watch the race from many vantage points, even crewed for a friend one time. In recent years with less time, I would just watch on Speed TV. Now, it is ONLY available on ESPN3 on the Internet. Whose greed was responsible for this? Sebring's? ALMS? Murdoch? So, now I'm watching it on grainy, jumpy, illegible, low res 18" image on my 25" high-res computer monitor. What stupidity! I'm going to contact the "sponsors" to let them know what a disaster this kind of coverage is. At least I got to see some of the cars live & screaming on Thursday at the track in practice. Norm From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Mar 19 17:39:13 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Sebring Video Coverage or Lack Thereof In-Reply-To: <000201cbe695$81f231c0$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <557256.32066.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Somewhere along the line, "Speed Channel" turned into "NASCAR Channel" and we were all a little bit poorer for it. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Norm 2Bs wrote: From: Norm 2Bs Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Sebring Video Coverage or Lack Thereof To: "750 101 Digest" , bugeye at yahoogroups.com, "MG Digest" , MGVR at yahoogroups.com, "Spridgets Digest" , "Vintage Racing Digest" Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 8:26 PM B When I had time, I would get to Sebring early Saturday morning, watch the race from many vantage points, even crewed for a friend one time. In recent years with less time, I would just watch on Speed TV. Now, it is ONLY available on ESPN3 on the Internet. Whose greed was responsible for this? Sebring's? ALMS? Murdoch? So, now I'm watching it on grainy, jumpy, illegible, low res 18" image on my 25" high-res computer monitor. What stupidity! I'm going to contact the "sponsors" to let them know what a disaster this kind of coverage is. At least I got to see some of the cars live & screaming on Thursday at the track in practice. Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: New Members 3 New Photos 69 Visit Your Group If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye Sprite Club, please send a blank email to:B bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Mar 19 18:21:49 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:21:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > According to Frank, they are not trucks, they are tractors.... As a TR3 fan, I resent that. Big Healeys aren't nearly as cool as tractors. (BN1 and BN2 excluded) From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 19 18:49:16 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Help ID this roll bar? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1828993890.1176584.1300585756640.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Measurements would help. It looks just like the one I have in Madge. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 7:21:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Help ID this roll bar? Anyone know what years Spridgets this fits? http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3816/mgrollbar1.jpg http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6621/mgrollbar2.jpg Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat Mar 19 19:15:35 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D856347.40506@tx.rr.com> I tested my connection last week when this thread was active, and I got 15 mbps download. Tonight I was on the internet and everything seemed normal, then all of a sudden it got real slow. Lots of sites were taking a long time to load, and some wouldn't load at all. I check the speed and now it is 4 mbps instead of 15. Since I checked and I know what it should run under normal conditions, I have information to use when I complain about it. >> 1) See how fast your current isp is so you can compare to your contract or new >> isp > It only gets as fast as it gets. I have a Time Warner cable modem, which I'm > told is the fastest connection available in my area. What's the point in > knowing how fast it is or isn't? From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 19 20:37:05 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:37:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC....PC speed In-Reply-To: <4D856347.40506@tx.rr.com> References: <4D856347.40506@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4D857661.9030207@justbrits.com> << I tested my connection last week when this thread was active, and I got 15 mbps download. >> "Normal" condition, B.Job !! Everybody on cable - not just Times-Warner or Road Runner [your provider] - unfortunately. Happens to me EVERY day at roughly 3:20 PM thru 4:00PMish when ALL the little kiddies get home and jump right on THEIR computers. Just pity the poor soul who is at the END of a "run" from a "drop" !!! Depending on how LONG the "run" is, that person might drop down to 1 mbps !!!!! "And Sir, if the Tech comes out and finds NO problem, there will be a Service Call Charge of $ ___.__ on your next month's bill." "Sorry Sir, that's the best I can advise." End of "story/Help Line Conversation/On Line Help Desk Conversation" !! End of Reply Post !! !! Ed PS: And STILL not AFRAID to "sign" my name !! From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 19 20:40:13 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:40:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any masochists on the list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D85771D.4050607@justbrits.com> << Big Healeys aren't nearly as cool as tractors. (BN1 and BN2 excluded) >> And tractors aren't nearly as cool as *Big Healey Sports Convertibles,* Billy [ BJ-8s NOT included !!! ] !!! Ed From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 19 20:48:40 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 03:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Paul A. In-Reply-To: <399007.51459.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1048511875.1910954.1300592920247.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I haven't seen this on the spridgets list yet, so I hope I'm not double posting.. > Good Friends of Paul. > Here is some bad news about Paul. > I got it from his girl friend Lillis in Oregon. > > Please pass it on to his old friends > > Feel free to post it there. > > Vigil > > > > > > Hi, > > I wanted you to know that Joey called to get some medical info from me > about his dad. Paul was hospitalized yesterday with very high blood > pressure, and probably a small stroke. He had some elevated levels of > some minerals in his blood, which indicated multiple mylenoma cancer > last time around. I reminded Joey that they had another batch of > Paul's stem cells frozen in case he might need them. Paul will be > hospitalized for maybe 3 or 4 days while they figure out what is > happening. > > I asked Joey to keep me updated and he said he would. I'm so sad. I > wish it was easier to get to Escondido from Portland, but I am not > sure I would be welcome, and I am not sure what is registering with > Paul right now. > > Lillis > -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 19 20:53:11 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:53:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Video Coverage or Lack Thereof In-Reply-To: <000201cbe695$81f231c0$6401a8c0@normoffice> References: <000201cbe695$81f231c0$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <4D857A27.2090301@justbrits.com> << I'm going to contact the "sponsors" to let them know what a disaster this kind of coverage is. >> Pass on the "info" that you find/write to, Norm. And WHAT you SAY !! That way we can all jump on it also. If you would like, I'll even put up on my site with "proper" "keywords" !!! Ed From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 22:17:08 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:17:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Japan photo In-Reply-To: <341522.85383.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <341522.85383.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Ron Soave wrote: This post-tsunami image is gut wrenching buta really striking - imagine if this were the United States. The Japanese are amazing. www.tinyurl.com/japan-yahoo-pic _____________________________________________ Heck, this is during the GOOD times... http://scottsblog.simiolsons.com/2009/01/obamatons-leave-dc-mall-mess-after.html -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 07:42:11 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:42:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [MG-MGB] Mini on Craigslist] In-Reply-To: <4D853138.3000403@justbrits.com> References: <4D853138.3000403@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Frank check it out could be a nice flipper. Lin On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > Da*n, I WISH this was closer to me !!! Frank, "ripe" for > you !! > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > http://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/2272658819.html > > They call it a Mini Cooper, but I'm not sure if it is or not. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Mar 20 09:11:38 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub Message-ID: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper Super Cub: http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- Ron From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Mar 20 09:38:22 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:38:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AD216153BB04D12BB51EF4FFCEE1BBD@spider> Check it for Hanger Rash. ...bill in corvallis ================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:12 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper Super Cub: http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- Ron _______________________________________________ From Miniac7 at aol.com Sun Mar 20 10:00:07 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:00:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [MG-MGB] Mini on Craigslist] Message-ID: <2f43d.634d8c82.3ab78c97@aol.com> As an FYI, it's not a Cooper, it's a Mini. Howard From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 20 10:12:45 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <86497.32665.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Great shots Ron! When you do decide to sell it, I would definitely use some of those shots among the ones you advertise with. - David Booker http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Mar 20 10:16:03 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:16:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sprite in a hangar. Hmmm. My hangar isn't as big, but I could empty my garage and my wife could put her car in there. :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/60807526 at N07/5543668318/ Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub >I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I >brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper >Super Cub: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ > > The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- > > Ron From nases at verizon.net Sun Mar 20 10:29:59 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:29:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <731D40F7-D8E8-4D3B-A3AD-C9DD3BC1C4AA@verizon.net> Nice pictures Ron. Sports cars and airplanes just seem to go together, especially the Sprite and the Cub. I wish I could get my garage floor done like the hangar floor. ps: The pit bike is back in NJ fighting for space with Bugeyes, Midgets and bicycles at Frank's. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Mar 20, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper Super Cub: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ > > The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From millerls at ado13.com Sun Mar 20 10:31:35 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:31:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6620B857-64D3-4993-8BB3-8FCD2E232726@ado13.com> Very nice. Wish I had room. Larry Miller On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper Super Cub: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ > > The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 14:39:43 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:39:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... Message-ID: *http://tinyurl.com/4jeu6jg* * * * -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ * From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Sun Mar 20 15:05:13 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <516105.6329.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Does this beautiful 'car' resemble E-bay's definition???? "Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational." ----- Original Message ---- From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 5:39:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... *http://tinyurl.com/4jeu6jg* * * * -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ * _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jackson.skip at yahoo.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Mar 20 15:55:10 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:55:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... In-Reply-To: <516105.6329.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: , <516105.6329.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's a highly sought after restorable RWA ... Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project ) 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple ) 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:05:13 -0700 > From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com > To: trevor.jessie at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Words fail me... > > Does this beautiful 'car' resemble E-bay's definition???? > "Used: An item that > has been used previously. The item may have some signs of > cosmetic wear, but > is fully operational." > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Trevor Jessie > > To: Spridgets > Sent: Sun, > March 20, 2011 5:39:43 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... > *http://tinyurl.com/4jeu6jg* > * > * > * > -Trevor > PS > Don't miss the big Midget 50th > Birthday Party > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ > * From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun Mar 20 16:31:05 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:31:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... In-Reply-To: <516105.6329.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <516105.6329.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D868E39.4020201@tx.rr.com> Does ebay have other options available for descriptions in a listing? There are a lot of used items on ebay that do not meet this definition, and are sold legitimately. My wife buys and sells various antiques, and many of them are not fully functional. I also notice items on ebay that are somehow broken or otherwise nonfunctional, and they are sold "for parts only". I think this is perfectly legitimate. There are a lot of things that people are willing to buy for whatever reason that are not fully functional. It seems that ebay should have other options. As long as a seller provides a proper description and discloses condition, I don't see why ebay would care. > Does this beautiful 'car' resemble E-bay's definition???? > "Used: An item that > has been used previously. The item may have some signs of > cosmetic wear, but > is fully operational." From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 20 17:02:32 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:02:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: References: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D869598.1070601@justbrits.com> << my wife could put her car in there. >> THAT is a "new trick" she should NOT be allowed to learn, Rick !!! !! "Give 'em an inch and they'll.................!" Tsk, tsk ! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Mar 20 17:40:11 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <898914.74273.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The "free shipping" he's offering might put a bit of a dent into the profit margin. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 3/20/11, Trevor Jessie wrote: From: Trevor Jessie Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... To: "Spridgets" Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 5:39 PM *http://tinyurl.com/4jeu6jg* * * * -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ * Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Mar 21 06:22:29 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:22:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Words fail me... In-Reply-To: <898914.74273.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: , <898914.74273.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think, he said that his delivery was from it's current location, to the back of the purchaser's truck ... via a backhoe?? Robert > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:40:11 -0700 > From: healeyrick at yahoo.com > > The "free shipping" he's offering might put a bit of a dent into the profit > margin. > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sun, 3/20/11, Trevor Jessie wrote: > > From: Trevor Jessie > > *http://tinyurl.com/4jeu6jg* > * > * > * > -Trevor > PS > Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 11:18:00 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:18:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [MG-MGB] Mini on Craigslist] In-Reply-To: <2f43d.634d8c82.3ab78c97@aol.com> References: <2f43d.634d8c82.3ab78c97@aol.com> Message-ID: Can you explain the differences? Lin On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > As an FYI, it's not a Cooper, it's a Mini. > > Howard From conen at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 21 16:06:33 2011 From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mini on Craig's list Message-ID: <660170.67998.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> per Linda... >>Can you explain the differences? >>Lin >> >>On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote: >>> As an FYI, it's not a Cooper, it's a Mini. >>> Cooper was to Mini as Shelby was to Mustang. That any help? :-) Ed in NC From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 02:39:17 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:39:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini on Craig's list In-Reply-To: <660170.67998.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <660170.67998.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think so Ed, Lin On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Edmund Conen wrote: > per Linda... > >>Can you explain the differences? > >>Lin > >> > >>On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > >>> As an FYI, it's not a Cooper, it's a Mini. > >>> > > Cooper was to Mini as Shelby was to Mustang. That any help? :-) > Ed in NC > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 02:44:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:44:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <236395.72806.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great shots Ron, what color is your Sprite? Lin On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I > brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper > Super Cub: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ > > The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 13:29:51 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:29:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram Message-ID: http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Mar 22 14:31:59 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <473721.52273.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> BRG, specifically Aston Martin "New Racing Green." --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub To: "Ron Soave" Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:44 AM Great shots Ron, what color is your Sprite? Lin On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Ron Soave wrote: I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper Super Cub: http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- Ron Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 15:37:46 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:37:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png I like it! Perhaps it should be colourized and imprinted on the front of some ladies' t-shirts for reference? David L From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Mar 22 15:56:52 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:56:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D892934.9070205@comcast.net> On 3/22/2011 4:29 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png > > > Is that a flux capacitor in there? But where are the dilithium crystals? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 15:59:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:59:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Shirts In-Reply-To: References: <56245459C2DA4DAB9FCC9F1C94F14E23@psych.washington.edu> <1979823917.1124304.1300295269476.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <98917CF8-7954-48EC-B35E-41769AC7F52D@mac.com> Message-ID: Really? Lin On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > So .. you're saying that he died, but he's not deaf? ;) > > Robert D > > From: lmacy at mac.com > > > > He died, > > > ...> > > (well he is not really deaf, but he has no shirts left either) > > Larry > > > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:19 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > > > > > What happened to Mike? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 16:05:20 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:05:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub In-Reply-To: <473721.52273.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <473721.52273.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looks stunning : ) Lin On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > BRG, specifically Aston Martin "New Racing Green." > > --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye and Cub > To: "Ron Soave" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:44 AM > > Great shots Ron, what color is your Sprite? > Lin > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > I had to store my Sprite at our hangar at work for a few days this week. I > brought it back home yesterday, but it seemed at home under a 1946 Piper > Super > Cub: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157626182826273/ > > > The car will be for sale as soon as I can sort it a bit, BTW -- > > > Ron > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 16:31:28 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:31:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Note: the flux capacitor is shown but not properly labeled. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Mar 22 16:59:40 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <676865622.1223662.1300838380953.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Why just for women? Label it Spridget wiring diagram and sell them at the Big Bash. Kate > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png I like it! Perhaps it should be colourized and imprinted on the front of some ladies' t-shirts for reference? David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 22 17:11:08 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:11:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9661EF8BD6EE4B8C945820D16B440AEE@spider> That is good! thanks ================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:38 PM To: Jim Johnson; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png I like it! Perhaps it should be colorized and imprinted on the front of some ladies' t-shirts for reference? David L _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue Mar 22 17:14:20 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <662497340.1958206.1300839260296.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> AH... I see> However I'm sorry to report I looked very hard but could not locate the left-handed floggle-toggle switch that connects to the thingamajig which controls the whatchamacallit! Was a later modification ? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" Note: the flux capacitor is shown but not properly labeled. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 22 17:25:28 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:25:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: <4D892934.9070205@comcast.net> References: <4D892934.9070205@comcast.net> Message-ID: <07AF94D332B44DC5AC9D5F921CA54749@spider> Selenium rectifiers; WW II surplus. ================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:57 PM To: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridgets; sprite-midgetclub Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram On 3/22/2011 4:29 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png > > > Is that a flux capacitor in there? But where are the dilithium crystals? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? _______________________________________________ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 22 17:40:54 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:40:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram In-Reply-To: <676865622.1223662.1300838380953.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <676865622.1223662.1300838380953.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <689493F71E8E464EAC2FD5B86149F612@spider> Lucas wiring diagram. ================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgb at frontiernet.net Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:00 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram Why just for women? Label it Spridget wiring diagram and sell them at the Big Bash. Kate > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png I like it! Perhaps it should be colourized and imprinted on the front of some ladies' t-shirts for reference? David L From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 22 21:30:38 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:30:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [midgetsprite] Fw: Paul'] Message-ID: <4D89776E.5080904@justbrits.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [midgetsprite] Fw: Paul' Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:01:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Reply-To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com To: Morris Motors , Sprite , Midget/Sprite , Buster , Frank Clarici , 9ISSA <9issa at justbrits.com> Please feel free to pass this information on to all of Pauls friends. I know he was a great friend to a lot of people and will be missed. Vigil Paul's son, Tom, just called to tell me that Paul died today. They were unable to get his high blood pressure down. I don't know any detail. He wasn't happy where he was, so maybe it was time to move on. Can you let the Little British Car people know? Thanks. I'm very sad of course and feeling the loss. I appreciate your connection to Paul, and your visiting him in Escondido. Life goes on, but it is not as rich. Lillis __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: * New Members 6 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get great advice about dogs and cats. Visit the Dog & Cat Answers Center. Yahoo! Groups Switch to: Text-Only , Daily Digest  Unsubscribe  Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From grday at btinternet.com Wed Mar 23 01:06:37 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:06:37 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram References: <662497340.1958206.1300839260296.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: The L-H F-T switch was only fitted to the prototypes and discontinued for the production models. If you have the diagram that shows these it would be well received within the community should you care to publish it. The other thing that was noted was the comment in relation to dilithium crystals, these are taking it away from the purity of the marque. This was unobtanium in the UK when the vehicles were built. However they may have been fitted to the export models after driving across the Atlantic. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" <> To: "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re-wiring a Spridget - Diagram > AH... I see> > > However I'm sorry to report I looked very hard but could not locate the > left-handed floggle-toggle switch that connects to the thingamajig which > controls the whatchamacallit! > > Was a later modification ? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "derf" <> > > > Note: the flux capacitor is shown but not properly labeled. > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Jim Johnson <> wrote: >> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/circuit_diagram.png > _______________________________________________ From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 23 06:28:50 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! Message-ID: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/22/switchblade-1991-mg-metro-6r4-awd-v6/ Must be displaying the MG "Lego" modification kit..... hideous! Fugliest MG EVAR..... Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 23 07:59:12 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:59:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! In-Reply-To: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D8A0AC0.7050007@justbrits.com> Ed, HOW did you miss THIS one: *http://tinyurl.com/29prja4* A LOT of this List Members will *"*KNOW*"* WHERE the 1st photo was taken in the BaT layout !!! LOL !!!! Me PS: THIS car is NOT a candidate for Ed P,'s "Subject:" !!! LOL ! From nory1 at roadrunner.com Wed Mar 23 08:09:29 2011 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:09:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! In-Reply-To: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110323150929.86XW9.10328.root@hrndva-web18-z01> And they want $50,000 for it on ebay!!!! ---- Edward Perez wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/22/switchblade-1991-mg-metro-6r4-awd-v6/ > > Must be displaying the MG "Lego" modification kit..... hideous! Fugliest MG > EVAR..... > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nory1 at roadrunner.com From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Mar 23 08:25:33 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [midgetsprite] Fw: Paul'] In-Reply-To: <4D89776E.5080904@justbrits.com> References: <4D89776E.5080904@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <148485.15138.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> That just sucks. Since I don't have any information on where to send condolences, I will express them here. I only met Paul in person once, at the Buster Cluster in '06, and he was a genuinely nice, kind, and down-to-earth individual. He was personable, ready and willing to help, and full of knowledge and enthusiasm. Paul possessed more mechanical knowledge on A-series cars than most I have crossed paths with in my many years in and around this hobby. It's strange how I can feel this loss of someone I barely knew, met only once, and chatted with only occasionally. I guess it's not strange at all really, because I respected him for what he added to the hobby and his general unselfish nature. He truly lived the hobby. Rest in Peace, Paul. (Anyone with direct contact with his family has my permission to forward these thoughts to them.) jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ Paul's son, Tom, just called to tell me that Paul died today. They were unable to get his high blood pressure down. I don't know any detail. He wasn't happy where he was, so maybe it was time to move on. Can you let the Little British Car people know? Thanks. I'm very sad of course and feeling the loss. I appreciate your connection to Paul, and your visiting him in Escondido. Life goes on, but it is not as rich. Lillis From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com Wed Mar 23 08:34:17 2011 From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:34:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Ugliest_MG_EVAR!?= Message-ID: <50.B9.29678.BE21A8D4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Purpose-built Group B rally car. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G ----- Reply message ----- From: "Edward Perez" Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:28 am Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! To: http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/22/switchblade-1991-mg-metro-6r4-awd-v6/ Must be displaying the MG "Lego" modification kit..... hideous! Fugliest MG EVAR..... Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Mar 23 08:56:21 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:56:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! In-Reply-To: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D8A1825.3040504@comcast.net> On 3/23/2011 9:28 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/22/switchblade-1991-mg-metro-6r4-awd-v6/ > I hate to admit it but I know a guy with one of these. Ugly but fast as all hell. His is red. Rover V6 but no rear wing if I recall. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 09:06:17 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:06:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! In-Reply-To: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Must be displaying the MG "Lego" modification kit..... hideous! Fugliest MG > EVAR..... Possibly, but still beloved. Group B rally car; they were all over the top. David L From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 23 10:44:08 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! (not) In-Reply-To: <20110323150929.86XW9.10328.root@hrndva-web18-z01> References: <20110323150929.86XW9.10328.root@hrndva-web18-z01> Message-ID: <431580.8529.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That is an extremely rare Group B race car - an absolute beast. They were not built to be beautiful, but to get from one end of a rally stage to the other in the least amount of time. For those of us who appreciate form following function, this thing is actually incredibly cool. There's nothing on it that doesn't make it accelerate, brake, turn and/or attempt to keep it glued to the road surface. Unfortunately, that last part proved to be the most difficult to accomplish. When you combine that with Rally enthusiasts who tend to hog the sides of the road, you find the reason Group B was short-lived as a class. - David Booker > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > _______________________________________________ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 10:43:57 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:43:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! In-Reply-To: <20110323150929.86XW9.10328.root@hrndva-web18-z01> References: <789643.44904.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com><20110323150929.86XW9.10328.root@hrndva-web18-z01> Message-ID: They want more, 50,000 is the initial bid. I always thought the group B cars where so ugly they where cute. They are the ultimate sleeper since few would expect them to be so fast. Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:09:29 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! And they want $50,000 for it on ebay!!!! ---- Edward Perez wrote: > http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/22/switchblade-1991-mg-metro-6r4-awd-v6/ > > Must be displaying the MG "Lego" modification kit..... hideous! Fugliest MG > EVAR..... > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nory1 at roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Mar 23 11:40:53 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:40:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul"s Passing In-Reply-To: <148485.15138.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4D89776E.5080904@justbrits.com> <148485.15138.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D8A3EB5.7030904@comcast.net> I am with Jay on this. I met Paul twice, both times was like seeing a long lost friend. I met him the first time in Chicago by chance and again at the Buster Cluster. I have dealt with him for parts too. He will be missed. I know he is in a better place with all the long lost Morris Minors he can hope to play with. His stroke put an abrupt end to his fun with quirky British cars here on Earth but now he can convince all those souls in heaven just how much fun Morris Minors and all British cars can be. He will be missed. Rest in peace Paul. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Mar 23 13:24:41 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul"s Passing In-Reply-To: <4D8A3EB5.7030904@comcast.net> Message-ID: <188120.16144.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Echo-ing the sentiments expressed here, Paul A. was a true gentleman, a true original, and in my book a true genius. I will forever use his expression "it only goes one way". This was his way of saying "wow, that's totally obvious to me and I can't believe you're wrestling with it for hours, but I'll be my usual gentlemanly self about it." Like Frank, I met Paul near Chicago one weekend when Frank came out to visit to help all of us beat the winter blues. Paul had been flown in by a Morris Minor owner to work on a car in January. He was that good. I met him again at the Buster Cluster and his picture graces the Practical Classics article front page on the subject. What I think I will most miss are the phone calls I could get out of the blue with a question about a race part or a concept for something new and different, and the hours of discussions that would ensue. His volunteer work and restoration of old pipe organs were often where the conversations went. As much as LBCs, these were his passions. We have lost a true giant in our hobby. Indeed Paul, it only goes one way. Ron From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Mar 23 13:26:04 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:26:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! (not) In-Reply-To: <431580.8529.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110323150929.86XW9.10328.root@hrndva-web18-z01> <431580.8529.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <84B6C176-8DB4-43EC-BEF7-BFD2ABD0D72C@comcast.net> Yup, I still remember the overhead shot of that Escort leaving the road in a straight path headed straight toward the only tree around and nailing it dead center. Lester On Mar 23, 2011, at 12:44 PM, David Booker wrote: > That is an extremely rare Group B race car - an absolute beast. They > were not > built to be beautiful, but to get from one end of a rally stage to > the other > in > the least amount of time. For those of us who appreciate form > following > function, this thing is actually incredibly cool. There's nothing on > it that > doesn't make it accelerate, brake, turn and/or attempt to keep it > glued to the > road surface. > > > Unfortunately, that last part proved to be the most difficult > to accomplish. > When you combine that with Rally enthusiasts who tend to hog > the sides of the > road, you find the reason Group B was short-lived as a > class. > > - David Booker > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ >> > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 13:33:35 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:33:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul"s Passing In-Reply-To: <4D8A3EB5.7030904@comcast.net> References: <4D89776E.5080904@justbrits.com> <148485.15138.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4D8A3EB5.7030904@comcast.net> Message-ID: I can only echo Frank & Jay. I met Paul at the BusterCluster and really enjoyed working around him and talking with him. He had a wonderful personality and a terrific sense of humor as he helped me arrange for the dead cat wheel chock spoof for the group. He helped me with some parts and service as well. I remember calling him once when he was in distress with back pain and couldn't get his work done in the shop. Not long after was the cancer and the stroke which laid him low. We have truly lost not only one of the most knowledgeable Spridget guys on the planet, but also a damned nice guy with a big heart. God speed, Paul. I know you are now in a far better place but you will certainly be missed down here, buddy!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 13:42:02 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:42:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul"s Passing In-Reply-To: <4D8A3EB5.7030904@comcast.net> References: <4D89776E.5080904@justbrits.com> <148485.15138.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4D8A3EB5.7030904@comcast.net> Message-ID: What Frank and Jay said. I was fortunate to have met Paul at the Buster Cluster. Purchased parts from him including his 5-speed kit, one of the last he sold. Phone conversations were always helpful and low key. His presence on the list has been missed for about a year. I would also like to thank Pete Schull for having been Paul's good friend and all the time and effort Pete put into the Paul A Fund in spite of some rather debilitating personal health conditions. Hal On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I am with Jay on this. > I met Paul twice, both times was like seeing a long lost friend. > I met him the first time in Chicago by chance and again at the Buster > Cluster. > I have dealt with him for parts too. > He will be missed. > I know he is in a better place with all the long lost Morris Minors he can > hope to play with. > His stroke put an abrupt end to his fun with quirky British cars here on > Earth but now he can convince > all those souls in heaven just how much fun Morris Minors and all British > cars can be. > He will be missed. > Rest in peace Paul. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From Ron.Corry at iol.ie Wed Mar 23 15:43:35 2011 From: Ron.Corry at iol.ie (Ron Corry) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:43:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: <4D89776E.5080904@justbrits.com> <148485.15138.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4D8A3EB5.7030904@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20110323223143.068ccda0@iol.ie> Listers, I am so sorry to learn of Paul's demise. I bought one of his kits, and he could not do more for me to ensure and easy fitting. Living in Ireland brought certain difficulties in the procurement of the kit. Happily, a business trip to NC via NY (Albany) allowed me to bring over a flywheel with me. On arrival in Albany, I mailed it to Paul, and he returned it to me, re-drilled, PDQ, as I only had a short stay in Albany. The kit itself came at the same time and when the time came later to fit it, I had some very minor queries, and Paul took the trouble to call me IN IRELAND at his expense to sort them out. He was a true gentleman and genius, and I miss him sadly. Driving my Frogeye/Bugeye in future, his memory will always be with me, especially as I change up into 5th gear! May he rest in peace. Ron Corry '59 AN5 "Oggibip" From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 23 16:23:40 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor 1000 vacuum advance - update. In-Reply-To: <342526084.1973887.1300915482463.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <48915472.1975372.1300922620190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> As quoted below - I've found where the vacuum take off is (I hope!) The Morris Minor 1000 workshop manual text refers to a "ignition control pipe" fitted to the carburettor - but it does not give any details, drawing or part number. No mention at all in the Haynes Sprite manuals!? I'm assuming it is a small diameter cooper tube that is threaded on one end to screw into the carburettor. It is a 948cc engine with a single HS SU carburettor. Does anyone have a scrap HS carb that they could take the copper(?) pipe off and sell it to me? I'm also guessing that it's probably about 1" -> 1.5" long. Or what the thread might be... No supplier lists it ;-( -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Dave KK7SS" wrote: > There *is* a threaded hole, with nothing in it, just below the > throttle shaft and on the engine side of the butterfly. > This should be the vacuum take-off point, Yes? > > I believe I can see a small brass plug with a small orifice in it at > the bottom of this hole. > So whatever was fitted there, isn't there anymore ;-( > > Where can I get whatever fits in that hole??? > Has anyone got a spare one? > > It was the "threaded hole" clue Bruce that did it ;-) From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Mar 23 16:27:14 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20110323223143.068ccda0@iol.ie> Message-ID: <954149.53600.qm@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Sad news. I had a chance to spend a day with Paul when he was back in Massachusetts visiting family. A very nice man. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 23 17:41:52 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:41:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing References: <954149.53600.qm@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7D68F4FA09464A618D603197D4AE6F62@YOURF074400E59> Had a thought here: Paul was universally revered among Spridget and Morris Minor folks. I don't know of anybody who didn't have a good word for him. The Midget 50th is coming up in a few months -- can we think of something we can do to commemorate his life and what he meant to us as LBCers at the 50th? Who has an idea what we can do for this? LAD P.S. I'm on my work computer here and don't have the other Spridget/Bugeye/Morris email addresses handy. Could somebody please forward this thought to the appropriate lists/groups, please. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Mar 23 18:10:09 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:10:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor 1000 vacuum advance - update. In-Reply-To: <48915472.1975372.1300922620190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <342526084.1973887.1300915482463.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <48915472.1975372.1300922620190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: A book I have, dated 1968 calls this an HS2 SU carb. I did a google image search and came up with a number of exploded diagrams. Do any show the pipe you're looking for? http://tinyurl.com/4fxx8kd ...bill in corvallis ======================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:24 PM To: morris motors; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris Minor 1000 vacuum advance - update. As quoted below - I've found where the vacuum take off is (I hope!) The Morris Minor 1000 workshop manual text refers to a "ignition control pipe" fitted to the carburettor - but it does not give any details, drawing or part number. No mention at all in the Haynes Sprite manuals!? I'm assuming it is a small diameter cooper tube that is threaded on one end to screw into the carburettor. It is a 948cc engine with a single HS SU carburettor. Does anyone have a scrap HS carb that they could take the copper(?) pipe off and sell it to me? I'm also guessing that it's probably about 1" -> 1.5" long. Or what the thread might be... No supplier lists it ;-( -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Dave KK7SS" wrote: > There *is* a threaded hole, with nothing in it, just below the > throttle shaft and on the engine side of the butterfly. > This should be the vacuum take-off point, Yes? > > I believe I can see a small brass plug with a small orifice in it at > the bottom of this hole. > So whatever was fitted there, isn't there anymore ;-( > > Where can I get whatever fits in that hole??? > Has anyone got a spare one? > > It was the "threaded hole" clue Bruce that did it ;-) Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 23 18:52:21 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:52:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <7D68F4FA09464A618D603197D4AE6F62@YOURF074400E59> References: <954149.53600.qm@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7D68F4FA09464A618D603197D4AE6F62@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: <4D8AA3D5.8060308@justbrits.com> Passed on to List Guru & Paul's very good friend, Vigil !! Me From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Mar 23 19:22:35 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <7D68F4FA09464A618D603197D4AE6F62@YOURF074400E59> References: <954149.53600.qm@web161202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <7D68F4FA09464A618D603197D4AE6F62@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: <355436.80675.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Larry, My take on Paul is that he was a simple unassuming guy who enjoyed his hobby on his own terms who other than making a living from his passion, didn't do it expecting anything in return. In that light, I think the most fitting recognition would be for everyone to raise their glass at the banquet in his honor, and leave it at that. To do something more would not be in keeping with the character of the fine man that he was. jay ________________________________ From: Larry Daniels To: Spridgets Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 8:41:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing Had a thought here: Paul was universally revered among Spridget and Morris Minor folks. I don't know of anybody who didn't have a good word for him. The Midget 50th is coming up in a few months -- can we think of something we can do to commemorate his life and what he meant to us as LBCers at the 50th? Who has an idea what we can do for this? From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Wed Mar 23 19:28:12 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 02:28:12 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] mg metro 6r4 Message-ID: MG 6R4 , vee 6 engine 4 wheel drive rocket ship , have a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2PhpajCU3w or some of my pics of retro rally cars I took a few weeks ago http://www.flickr.com/photos/apjones/sets/72157626211793187/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/apjones/5554884194/ plenty of MGs and a few froeyes there too Rgds Alan East - Jones Warwick UK From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 23 19:44:44 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 02:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor 1000 vacuum advance - update. In-Reply-To: <1740432375.1978520.1300934099542.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1794517132.1978672.1300934684899.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Hi Bill, Sad to report... no ;-( This is a 1959 car/948 cc motor and has an SU type H1 or H2 carb, where the fuel bowl has a casting that connects it rigidly to the carb body which is how the fuel gets to the needle.. It's definitely not an HS2. The carb body has a 30* cant with the float bowl being vertical. I did look at *ALL* the pictures but couldn't find an H1/H2 ;-( I think these are the same model carbs that were fitted to the early Lotus 7's. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com A book I have, dated 1968 calls this an HS2 SU carb. http://tinyurl.com/4fxx8kd ...bill in corvallis From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 23 19:46:03 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:46:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: [Fwd: Re: Paul's Passing] References: <903791.7713.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7E7A2AE7-1540-457B-95F5-524D5712B70D@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: That's a good start, Gerard. And I know you and Paul were close. That's great of you to do this for him. What else can be done? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerard" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Midget/Sprite" ; "Morris Motors" ; "Morris" ; "Bugeye Yahoo Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: [Fwd: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing] Well, not exactly the idea you have in mind Larry, but I was thinking about doing a feature/memorial to Paul on my web site. I only have a few pix of Paul the last couple times he was in the Bay Area , but if people want to send me photos or stories, that might t be a start of something. Gerard > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 6:51 PM > > > Had a thought here: Paul was universally revered among Spridget and > Morris > Minor folks. I don't know of anybody who didn't have a good word > for him. > The Midget 50th is coming up in a few months -- can we think of > something we > can do to commemorate his life and what he meant to us as LBCers at > the > 50th? > > Who has an idea what we can do for this? > > > LAD > > > P.S. I'm on my work computer here and don't have the other > Spridget/Bugeye/Morris email addresses handy. Could somebody please > forward > this thought to the appropriate lists/groups, please. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye > Sprite Club, please send a blank email to: > bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member > of the group, you may go to the website > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ > and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive > any emails. > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Mar 23 20:26:37 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Unforeseen circumstances have made it very unlikely that I will be able to attend the Big Bash, but I rather think Paul would enjoy an old fashioned wake. Possibly those of us who have photos of him could send them in to have a montage created and everyone could get together one evening and hoist a few to Paul and relate experiences that were shared with him. Another thought would be a Paul A. trophy for the nicest car wearing one of his 5 speeds. I think it should be a popular vote event, and perhaps a revolving trophy that could keep being awarded at future events. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:41:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing Had a thought here: Paul was universally revered among Spridget and Morris Minor folks. I don't know of anybody who didn't have a good word for him. The Midget 50th is coming up in a few months -- can we think of something we can do to commemorate his life and what he meant to us as LBCers at the 50th? Who has an idea what we can do for this? LAD P.S. I'm on my work computer here and don't have the other Spridget/Bugeye/Morris email addresses handy. Could somebody please forward this thought to the appropriate lists/groups, please. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 24 06:49:28 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:49:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor 1000 vacuum advance - update. In-Reply-To: <48915472.1975372.1300922620190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.d lls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <342526084.1973887.1300915482463.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <48915472.1975372.1300922620190.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <201103240549321.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Dave, I have the part, and a complete used head with carb and pipe, and the picture of the page from the Minor parts manual. Contact me if you are interested. BTW, the pipe is not copper, though it could be. Peter C --- At 06:23 PM 3/23/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote: >As quoted below - I've found where the vacuum take off is (I hope!) > >The Morris Minor 1000 workshop manual text refers to a "ignition >control pipe" fitted to the carburettor - but it does not give any >details, drawing or part number. >No mention at all in the Haynes Sprite manuals!? > >I'm assuming it is a small diameter cooper tube that is threaded on >one end to screw into the carburettor. > >It is a 948cc engine with a single HS SU carburettor. > >Does anyone have a scrap HS carb that they could take the copper(?) >pipe off and sell it to me? I'm also guessing that it's probably >about 1" -> 1.5" long. > >Or what the thread might be... > >No supplier lists it ;-( > >-- >Dave G KK7SS >DN06ig > >,59 Morris Minor 1000 >'65 Sprite - in process >'76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. >'06 Honda Civic Hybrid > >----- "Dave KK7SS" wrote: > > There *is* a threaded hole, with nothing in it, just below the > > throttle shaft and on the engine side of the butterfly. > > This should be the vacuum take-off point, Yes? > > > > I believe I can see a small brass plug with a small orifice in it at > > the bottom of this hole. > > So whatever was fitted there, isn't there anymore ;-( > > > > Where can I get whatever fits in that hole??? > > Has anyone got a spare one? > > > > It was the "threaded hole" clue Bruce that did it ;-) >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3526 - Release Date: 03/24/11 From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Mar 24 07:36:12 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:36:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! Message-ID: As ugly as NASCAR. But Group B is the European equivalent of the NASCAR demographic. The roller derby of motorsports. JohnD _____________________ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward Perez Subject: [Spridgets] Ugliest MG EVAR! To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <789643.44904.qm at web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/22/switchblade-1991-mg-metro-6r4-awd-v6 / Must be displaying the MG "Lego" modification kit..... hideous! Fugliest MG EVAR..... Edward Perez From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 24 08:18:42 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul"s Passing In-Reply-To: <5e3f.548fe307.3abbe391@aol.com> References: <5e3f.548fe307.3abbe391@aol.com> Message-ID: <489974.62011.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Rudy, Good to hear from you. Paul's last name is Asgeirsson. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: "CAWS52803 at aol.com" Hey Jay, I have seen all the emails about Paul, but not one that mentions his last name. Would you send me it? Thanks, Rudy Streng in NC From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 09:42:07 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:42:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Some good ideas from all... My suggestion is for Sprite-Midget Club to develop an annual award named after Paul for the Spridgeteer who best exemplifies Paul's helpfulness and friendliness as applied to Spridgets. Nomination and voting on the award can easily be done via the club website allowing everyone to participate. The award could be a large plaque with small brass plates bearing the names and years of the winners. The plaque can be kept by the current winner each year. Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:26 PM, wrote: > Unforeseen circumstances have made it very unlikely that I will be able to > attend the Big Bash, but I rather think Paul would enjoy an old fashioned > wake. Possibly those of us who have photos of him could send them in to have > a montage created and everyone could get together one evening and hoist a > few to Paul and relate experiences that were shared with him. > > Another thought would be a Paul A. trophy for the nicest car wearing one of > his 5 speeds. I think it should be a popular vote event, and perhaps a > revolving trophy that could keep being awarded at future events. > > Kate > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Daniels" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:41:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing > > Had a thought here: Paul was universally revered among Spridget and Morris > Minor folks. I don't know of anybody who didn't have a good word for him. > The Midget 50th is coming up in a few months -- can we think of something > we > can do to commemorate his life and what he meant to us as LBCers at the > 50th? > > Who has an idea what we can do for this? > > > LAD > > > P.S. I'm on my work computer here and don't have the other > Spridget/Bugeye/Morris email addresses handy. Could somebody please > forward > this thought to the appropriate lists/groups, please. From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Mar 24 10:13:19 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:13:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing Message-ID: After this long period of suffering and debility, he finds peace, and for that I am thankful. It' a bit strange, but now when I see my MorriService distributor, I think of the loss of a good man and a friend. -JohnD From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 24 10:43:41 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <457857.93768.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> What is the "Sprite-Midget Club"? jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridgets Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 12:42:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing Some good ideas from all... My suggestion is for Sprite-Midget Club to develop an annual award From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 24 11:56:04 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:56:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> Jim, while I think that it's a great idea, my experience with something similar with the SAAB club is that it's a meaningful award for a short period of years and after that the meaning is lost and no one knows why the award is being given. Maybe an annual reminder on this list for those who knew him. Lester On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Some good ideas from all... > > My suggestion is for Sprite-Midget Club to develop an annual award > named > after Paul for the Spridgeteer who best exemplifies Paul's > helpfulness and > friendliness as applied to Spridgets. Nomination and voting on the > award can > easily be done via the club website allowing everyone to > participate. The > award could be a large plaque with small brass plates bearing the > names and > years of the winners. The plaque can be kept by the current winner > each > year. > > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 24 12:10:22 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1312.13554.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> My suggestion is to apply your club's "KISS principle". Honor Paul but don't go down the trophy road. But for the "KISS principle", I would go on. jay ________________________________ From: Jim Johnson Some good ideas from all... My suggestion is for Sprite-Midget Club to develop an annual award named after Paul for the Spridgeteer who best exemplifies Paul's helpfulness and friendliness as applied to Spridgets. Nomination and voting on the award can easily be done via the club website allowing everyone to participate. The award could be a large plaque with small brass plates bearing the names and years of the winners. The plaque can be kept by the current winner each year. From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 12:42:06 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:42:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> Message-ID: > while I think that it's a great idea, my experience with something similar > with the SAAB club is that it's a meaningful award for a short period of > years and after that the meaning is lost and no one knows why the award is > being given. Maybe an annual reminder on this list for those who knew him. Human memory is short and none of us like to dwell on reminders of our own brevity. An award cannot convey immortality, no matter how hard we wish. Perhaps Jay's suggestion of a toast in his honor at the Midget 50th is the most meaningful thing we can do. David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 13:10:36 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:10:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <457857.93768.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <457857.93768.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: C'mon Jay... Yer just pullin' my leg, right?? ;-) Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Jay wrote: > What is the "Sprite-Midget Club"? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > ________________________________ > From: Jim Johnson > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 12:42:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing > > Some good ideas from all... > > My suggestion is for Sprite-Midget Club to develop an annual award > - From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 24 13:36:58 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <800840.32914.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I agree completely. In my experience, I have seen that after the passing of someone who people hold dear, there is often an effort to create an ongoing memorial, an award, a fundraiser, scholarship, etc. Those efforts however noble and initially successful, general don't last more than 2-4 years and they are discontinued. Remember Paul at this year's 50th Anniversary event, let's hold him in our memory, continue techniques he passed on to some of us, and have a good time with our cars. jay fishbein wallingford, ct Jim, while I think that it's a great idea, my experience with something similar with the SAAB club is that it's a meaningful award for a short period of years and after that the meaning is lost and no one knows why the award is being given. Maybe an annual reminder on this list for those who knew him. Lester From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 13:42:43 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:42:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> Message-ID: I get your point here Lester but beg to point out that the Lombardi Trophy, Lord Stanley's Cup, The Heisman Trophy and the Borg Warner Trophy are hanging in there pretty good and usually inspire people who don't know who John Heisman, Vince Lombardi or Lord Stanley were to read up a bit and learn about them.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Lester wrote: > Jim, > > while I think that it's a great idea, my experience with something similar > with the SAAB club is that it's a meaningful award for a short period of > years and after that the meaning is lost and no one knows why the award is > being given. Maybe an annual reminder on this list for those who knew him. > > Lester > > > > On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Some good ideas from all... >> >> My suggestion is for Sprite-Midget Club to develop an annual award named >> after Paul for the Spridgeteer who best exemplifies Paul's helpfulness and >> friendliness as applied to Spridgets. Nomination and voting on the award >> can >> easily be done via the club website allowing everyone to participate. The >> award could be a large plaque with small brass plates bearing the names >> and >> years of the winners. The plaque can be kept by the current winner each >> year. >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim Johnson >> > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 24 14:49:54 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:49:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3095729F-7441-4CA6-9B6C-DE86861DC6B1@comcast.net> But the other side of the coin is the Crissman trophy, I remember because I was around when it happened, but most don't. Two kids who were SAAB folk killed when they ran into someone. Tragic and there is a trophy established for them but that was several years ago and now it's just a lost cause.. Lester On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I get your point here Lester but beg to point out that the Lombardi > Trophy, > Lord Stanley's Cup, The Heisman Trophy and the Borg Warner Trophy are > hanging in there pretty good and usually inspire people who don't > know who > John Heisman, Vince Lombardi or Lord Stanley were to read up a bit > and learn > about them.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Lester > wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> while I think that it's a great idea, my experience with something >> similar >> with the SAAB club is that it's a meaningful award for a short >> period of >> years and after that the meaning is lost and no one knows why the >> award is >> being given. Maybe an annual reminder on this list for those who >> knew him. >> >> Lester >> >> >> >> On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: >> >> Some good ideas from all... >>> >>> My suggestion is for Sprite-Midget Club to develop an annual award >>> named >>> after Paul for the Spridgeteer who best exemplifies Paul's >>> helpfulness and >>> friendliness as applied to Spridgets. Nomination and voting on the >>> award >>> can >>> easily be done via the club website allowing everyone to >>> participate. The >>> award could be a large plaque with small brass plates bearing the >>> names >>> and >>> years of the winners. The plaque can be kept by the current winner >>> each >>> year. >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> Jim Johnson >>> >> >> > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Mar 24 15:15:51 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:15:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <1312.13554.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1312.13554.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D8BC297.8070705@comcast.net> On 3/24/2011 3:10 PM, Jay wrote: > My suggestion is to apply your club's "KISS principle". > > > Honor Paul but don't go down the trophy road. > > But for the "KISS principle", I would go on. > > I am with Jay on this, toast him at the 50th. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 24 16:51:37 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:51:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <9F3826DF-3512-4048-A33A-F89639F64F7E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1D7F5200-467F-472E-9B3C-F9E1BF569882@snet.net> Did Kansas just pass a medical marijuana law? I'm just askin'? Jay -An iPhone communication- On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I get your point here Lester but beg to point out that the Lombardi Trophy, > Lord Stanley's Cup, The Heisman Trophy and the Borg Warner Trophy are > hanging in there pretty good and usually inspire people who don't know who > John Heisman, Vince Lombardi or Lord Stanley were to read up a bit and learn > about them.... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 24 17:07:08 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:07:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net><1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net><1312.13554.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4D8BC297.8070705@comcast.net> Message-ID: <18864C2F46804EC89035826948617F00@YOURF074400E59> I guess I started this ball rolling not knowing where it would go, but, after listening to several opinions both ways, I'm with Jay, as well. Paul's name is familiar to all of us and we all appreciate what he has done for LBCs, but new listers down the road will have no idea who he was. I've only been here for about 6 or 7 years and I don't know who Montana Bob is/was. Two or three years from now, all the newbies won't know who Paul A. was. His memory will live on for those who will find that important. I'm sure his name will not die out for some time, but eventually it will. A toast or three at the 50th banquet will ensure that he isn't forgotten. Maybe those who continue his 5-speed kits can market them as the "Paul A. 5-speed" in respect for him. Just another opinion... LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Jay" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing On 3/24/2011 3:10 PM, Jay wrote: > My suggestion is to apply your club's "KISS principle". > > > Honor Paul but don't go down the trophy road. > > But for the "KISS principle", I would go on. > > I am with Jay on this, toast him at the 50th. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 17:55:05 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:55:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <1312.13554.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1312.13554.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Jay wrote: Honor Paul but don't go down the trophy road. -------------------------------------------------------- How about naming the 5th turn on the autocross course at the Midget 50th for Paul? -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 19:14:28 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <800840.32914.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <867214.26759.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I agree as well. It only goes one way. --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Jay wrote: From: Jay Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 3:36 PM I agree completely. In my experience, I have seen that after the passing of someone who people hold dear, there is often an effort to create an ongoing memorial, an award, a fundraiser, scholarship, etc. Those efforts however noble and initially successful, general don't last more than 2-4 years and they are discontinued. Remember Paul at this year's 50th Anniversary event, let's hold him in our memory, continue techniques he passed on to some of us, and have a good time with our cars. jay fishbein wallingford, ct Jim, while I think that it's a great idea, my experience with something similar with the SAAB club is that it's a meaningful award for a short period of years and after that the meaning is lost and no one knows why the award is being given. Maybe an annual reminder on this list for those who knew him. Lester Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 22:04:19 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:04:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <18864C2F46804EC89035826948617F00@YOURF074400E59> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1312.13554.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4D8BC297.8070705@comcast.net> <18864C2F46804EC89035826948617F00@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > Paul's name is familiar to all of us and we all appreciate what he has done > for LBCs, but new listers down the road will have no idea who he was. And if there is no trophy in his name they will have no reason to learn who he was. Just another way of looking at it. Like everyone else, it was just a suggestion. I go with the flow. Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 22:26:48 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:26:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I have pix from PIR's ABFM I can send. Just get me the eddress. Great idea, Kate. Herb On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:26 PM, wrote: > Unforeseen circumstances have made it very unlikely that I will be able to > attend the Big Bash, but I rather think Paul would enjoy an old fashioned > wake. Possibly those of us who have photos of him could send them in to have > a montage created and everyone could get together one evening and hoist a > few to Paul and relate experiences that were shared with him. > > Another thought would be a Paul A. trophy for the nicest car wearing one of > his 5 speeds. I think it should be a popular vote event, and perhaps a > revolving trophy that could keep being awarded at future events. > > Kate From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 23:08:40 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:08:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: <1300015525.1246211.1300937003940.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <1136788608.1246222.1300937197189.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I never met him in person but I feel the world has grown a little darker and a little colder now that he is gone. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 25 05:32:31 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Proper shade of BRG for sale on ebay Message-ID: I thought this was humourous. ebay # 150581720016 ( It's listed for sale by Reid T. ) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Mar 25 06:36:31 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite Message-ID: <831160.39484.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The Pantera One of my favorite automobiles. BAT subscribers have already seen this: http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/24/giallo-perfection-10k-mile-1972-detomaso-pantera/ The original car shows it's beautiful lines and it is refreshing to see one that has not been modified with chrome wheels, chrome engine bay, chrome license plate frame and so-on. (Do I really need to mention the aluminum wings? No? I didn't think so.) I'll add a typical period story. A friend of mine in college in the early 70's shows me a little portfolio of a Pantera he is going to survey. Beautiful and original but a little pricey at $11,000. but hey, we were into cars. You could look for free. A couple of years later Bob Sharp, the Datsun racer and auto dealer in CT, had one for sale for a personal friend. Another beautiful and original car, similar price. Those were the days. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Mar 25 06:39:43 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Proper shade of BRG for sale on ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <383681.15289.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> "This should settle many arguments about the original shade of BMC's British Racing Green!" Knowing Reid, i'm surprised he would make a statement like that. All it's going to prove is the color in the can. But he IS only asking .99 for it. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Robert Duquette To: Spridgets Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 8:32:31 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Proper shade of BRG for sale on ebay I thought this was humourous. ebay # 150581720016 ( It's listed for sale by Reid T. ) From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 25 07:09:45 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:09:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D8CA229.9040405@sbcglobal.net> I'm in agreement with those that would like to honor Paul with a toast at the 50th, but would also like to make the suggestion that the Midget50 program have a page honoring and remembering the man. I never met Paul and it took me a long time on this list and others to connect all the dots to figure out who he was and what he did. I watched his posts and, especially those of you who wrote during his various stages of illness, and began to understand what a special kind of guy he was. A page in the program with his story and pictures will help all of us at Midget50 know why we are raising our glasses in his memory. Lee From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 07:43:52 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:43:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite In-Reply-To: <831160.39484.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <831160.39484.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > The Pantera > One of my favorite automobiles. And I had one of them stop in front of my house a few years ago. Owner was having some problems and pulled over to make sure it was going to make it home. There is so much to like in one of those! They just had an aura that felt right. Of course this guy wound up selling it and buying a Viper. Came back a year or so later and handed me the keys to the Viper and told me to take it for a spin. WOW! There is nothing like knowing that any time I wanted to pass someone it was simply a matter of pushing the right foot a fraction farther down. Good thing I have Spridgets; I would be a menace in one of those. Sadly enough, the Viper caught fire a couple weeks later. David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 07:45:25 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:45:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Proper shade of BRG for sale on ebay In-Reply-To: <383681.15289.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <383681.15289.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > "This should settle many arguments about the original shade of BMC's British > Racing Green!" > Knowing Reid, i'm surprised he would make a statement like that. > All it's going to prove is the color in the can. He knows that. Read it in the tongue-in-cheek manner he seems to have intended and it makes more sense. David L From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 25 08:16:05 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:16:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Proper shade of BRG for sale on ebay In-Reply-To: <383681.15289.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: , <383681.15289.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: He jests, I'm sure! :) > > "This should settle many arguments about the original shade of BMC's British > Racing Green!" > > Knowing Reid, i'm surprised he would make a statement like that. > > All it's going to prove is the color in the can. > > > But he IS only asking .99 for it. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > ________________________________ > From: Robert Duquette > > I thought this was humourous. > ebay # 150581720016 > ( It's listed for sale by Reid T. ) From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 08:26:06 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:26:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <4D8CA229.9040405@sbcglobal.net> References: <4D8CA229.9040405@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: > I'm in agreement with those that would like to honor Paul with a toast at > the 50th, but would also like to make the suggestion that the Midget50 > program have a page honoring and remembering the man. You mean like the September page of the 2011 Spridget Calendar? So glad I put that in there when I did. David L From kristi74midget at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 08:35:48 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:35:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget Message-ID: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net> Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >> On the way home Saturday nite, I got a call. Kristi is in trouble. Her car is back at the "bucking" as she called it. >> >> I had to back track 30 min to find her on Rt 9. Her car is surging, not bucking. >> -- I rode in it for a few and then lead the 40 mph caravan back to my place. >> >> As best as I can describe it acts like it is getting fuel for a minute (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it starts backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. >> >> The idle and carbs have been played with til the cows came home, We had the 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it screwed up. >> >> If I had to guess I have two hypotheses. >> >> 1) partially blocked exhaust (works fie at idle, runs crappy at partial -> full throttle) >> >> 2) Fuel pump not delivering enough. it gets some to idle on, then cant deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a second (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). >> >> As best as I understand the valves are adjusted and the carbs are tuned (If you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) >> >> Ideas, Wild Assed Guesses, Anything?? all welcome!! >> > Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put the "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Mar 25 09:12:56 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite In-Reply-To: References: <831160.39484.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <578379.90348.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Years ago I knew a local fellow who had two Prosche 911 turbos. Gorgeous cars. One caught fire and then a few months later, the second one caught fire. Sure beats going through the trouble of going through the process of selling them. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> To: Spridgets Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 10:43:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite Sadly enough, the Viper caught fire a couple weeks later. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 09:30:34 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:30:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul's Passing In-Reply-To: <4D8CA229.9040405@sbcglobal.net> References: <4D8CA229.9040405@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Lee, et al... That's a good idea... As David mentions, there is an entire large page of the 2011 club calendar dedicated to Paul (Thanks, David!!). Also, there is now a link on the Sprite-MidgetClub.org website which points to the nice blog on Paul put up by Gerard Chateauvieux. Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Lee Fox wrote: > I'm in agreement with those that would like to honor Paul with a toast at > the 50th, but would also like to make the suggestion that the Midget50 > program have a page honoring and remembering the man. > > I never met Paul and it took me a long time on this list and others to > connect all the dots to figure out who he was and what he did. I watched his > posts and, especially those of you who wrote during his various stages of > illness, and began to understand what a special kind of guy he was. > > A page in the program with his story and pictures will help all of us at > Midget50 know why we are raising our glasses in his memory. > > Lee From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 09:42:13 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:42:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - The BIG Party!! Message-ID: All, Please pass the word concerning registration for the Midget 50th. Only a few registrations have been received to date and yet we know there are a lot of folks out there planning on attending. If you can possibly register early, the organizers would very much appreciate it. It helps them plan when they have an idea how many people and cars they need to plan for. To register, download the registration form at the link below, print it, fill it out and send it in.... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/preregistrationform.pdf Hope to see you there!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kristi74midget at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 10:00:26 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:00:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: References: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8AE77E5A-06F0-4B0C-9F48-BF7A2A7C779D@comcast.net> There is no uniformity at all. THe only thing that seems to be common is that it always happens when trying to accelerate. When at a constant speed it is not to bad but the minute the gas pedal is even barely touched it starts the "bucking" Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Pete Chast wrote: > You have done all the major things. Its probably down now to looking for a bad wire connection > or a hot spot causing a vapor lock..... > > Is it a quick rhythmic buck or does it have no uniformity to the pulse? > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:35:48 -0400, Kristi & Lambert wrote: > >> >> Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >> >> > >> is back at the "bucking" as she called it. > >> bucking. > >> place. > >> (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it starts >> backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. > >> 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it >> screwed up. > >> full throttle) > >> deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a second >> (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). > >> you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) > >>> >> >> Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we >> lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put the >> "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. >> >> >> Kristi & Lambert >> '74 RWA Midget >> '77 RB Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 10:08:25 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:08:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite In-Reply-To: <578379.90348.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <831160.39484.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <578379.90348.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think that may have been a common problem with the 911 Turbos... I also had a friend that had this happen. He was on I-610 loop in Houston during rush hour. Unfortunately he had several fire extinguishers in the vehicle which he jumped out and used to good effect. I say unfortunately, because he should have let the car burn out. His insurance company wouldn't total the car because he had saved too much of it. He ended up with a car that stunk of smoke for many years afterward! Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jay wrote: > Years ago I knew a local fellow who had two Prosche 911 turbos. Gorgeous > cars. > > One caught fire and then a few months later, the second one caught fire. > > Sure beats going through the trouble of going through the process of > selling > them. > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > To: Spridgets > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 10:43:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite > > > Sadly enough, the Viper caught fire a couple weeks later. > -- From jessmd1 at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 10:53:12 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:53:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver Message-ID: When converting a 1959 bugeye from a right to left hand driver,can the same steering rack be used or does one need a "left hand steering rack"? Thanks From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Mar 25 10:54:16 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:54:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget References: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net> Message-ID: <464DAA4965924EA8A4719D72333B1183@personal> Gesh, no spark at all, now thinik where spark comes from. Positive side of coil, do you have elec there. Does it go into the dizzy. Does it come out of Dizzy. Do the plugs have fire? Not a lot of options. so. is either, Coil, Condencer, Points sliped togheter mostly, or a bad dizzy cap. All bad plugs, noooo. All bad wires, Nooooo. Might I suggest checking the coil for out put and then changeing the condencer as you see if the points are opening and closing ok. Test coil by haveing someone crank engine while you see if fire comes off the wire as you get close to grounding it. If this does not work change the Dizzy cap. > Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. > > >>> On the way home Saturday nite, I got a call. Kristi is in trouble. Her >>> car > is back at the "bucking" as she called it. >>> >>> I had to back track 30 min to find her on Rt 9. Her car is surging, not > bucking. >>> -- I rode in it for a few and then lead the 40 mph caravan back to my > place. >>> >>> As best as I can describe it acts like it is getting fuel for a minute > (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it > starts > backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. >>> >>> The idle and carbs have been played with til the cows came home, We had >>> the > 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it > screwed up. >>> >>> If I had to guess I have two hypotheses. >>> >>> 1) partially blocked exhaust (works fie at idle, runs crappy at >>> partial -> > full throttle) >>> >>> 2) Fuel pump not delivering enough. it gets some to idle on, then cant > deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a > second > (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). >>> >>> As best as I understand the valves are adjusted and the carbs are tuned >>> (If > you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) >>> >>> Ideas, Wild Assed Guesses, Anything?? all welcome!! >>> >> > > Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we > lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put > the > "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. > > > Kristi & Lambert > '74 RWA Midget > '77 RB Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3528 - Release Date: 03/25/11 From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 25 11:06:24 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <8AE77E5A-06F0-4B0C-9F48-BF7A2A7C779D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1849284320.2003361.1301076384520.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> "Bucking" as in trying to run backwards? or "Bucking" as in surging? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristi & Lambert" To: "Pete Chast" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:00:26 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget There is no uniformity at all. THe only thing that seems to be common is that it always happens when trying to accelerate. When at a constant speed it is not to bad but the minute the gas pedal is even barely touched it starts the "bucking" Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Pete Chast wrote: > You have done all the major things. Its probably down now to looking for a bad wire connection > or a hot spot causing a vapor lock..... > > Is it a quick rhythmic buck or does it have no uniformity to the pulse? > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:35:48 -0400, Kristi & Lambert wrote: > >> >> Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >> >> > >> is back at the "bucking" as she called it. > >> bucking. > >> place. > >> (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it starts >> backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. > >> 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it >> screwed up. > >> full throttle) > >> deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a second >> (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). > >> you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) > >>> >> >> Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we >> lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put the >> "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. >> >> >> Kristi & Lambert >> '74 RWA Midget >> '77 RB Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kk7ss at frontier.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 11:30:22 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:30:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <8AE77E5A-06F0-4B0C-9F48-BF7A2A7C779D@comcast.net> References: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net><8AE77E5A-06F0-4B0C-9F48-BF7A2A7C779D@comcast.net> Message-ID: When the problem happens does your tach drop to zero or stay at the correct rpm? If it drops I would look for an electric problem first. Did you get it working with the second distributor? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Kristi & Lambert Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:00:26 To: Pete Chast Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget There is no uniformity at all. THe only thing that seems to be common is that it always happens when trying to accelerate. When at a constant speed it is not to bad but the minute the gas pedal is even barely touched it starts the "bucking" Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Pete Chast wrote: > You have done all the major things. Its probably down now to looking for a bad wire connection > or a hot spot causing a vapor lock..... > > Is it a quick rhythmic buck or does it have no uniformity to the pulse? > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:35:48 -0400, Kristi & Lambert wrote: > >> >> Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >> >> > >> is back at the "bucking" as she called it. > >> bucking. > >> place. > >> (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it starts >> backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. > >> 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it >> screwed up. > >> full throttle) > >> deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a second >> (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). > >> you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) > >>> >> >> Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we >> lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put the >> "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. >> >> >> Kristi & Lambert >> '74 RWA Midget >> '77 RB Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kristi74midget at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 11:41:26 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:41:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <832918299-1301077823-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1557296405-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net><8AE77E5A-06F0-4B0C-9F48-BF7A2A7C779D@comcast.net> <832918299-1301077823-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1557296405-@bda356.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <750DAA5E-6F23-412A-A658-A40226184211@comcast.net> The tach stays at the correct RPM's. Unfortunately the car is "stuck" at my Dad's since that was the place we took it to the night we had problems. I have been having this problem for several years now but never this bad. When it first started happening it was like I lost all umfff to go while accelerating. I could put the gas pedal to the floor and nothing really would happen and then all of a sudden everything would kick in and things would be fine. The float bowls have been cleaned and the carbs where even changed at one point with a whole different set of carbs. I have had one of the guru's of carbs (Kevin V.) help with getting the car back after the changing of the carbs. That is the weird thing is because it was acting up on the way to New Jersey (a 2 hour drive) but while driving ended up driving well and even seemed like there was no "bucking." Then on the way home it was horrible. Hope this helps. I am taking every suggestion and then when we finally get a chance to get back to the car we will work on everything. Dad - chime in here if you think it will help. Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:30 PM, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: > When the problem happens does your tach drop to zero or stay at the correct rpm? If it drops I would look for an electric problem first. > > Did you get it working with the second distributor? > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kristi & Lambert > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:00:26 > To: Pete Chast > Cc: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget > > There is no uniformity at all. THe only thing that seems to be common is that > it always happens when trying to accelerate. When at a constant speed it is > not to bad but the minute the gas pedal is even barely touched it starts the > "bucking" > > > Kristi & Lambert > '74 RWA Midget > '77 RB Midget > > > > On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Pete Chast wrote: > >> You have done all the major things. Its probably down now to looking for a > bad wire connection >> or a hot spot causing a vapor lock..... >> >> Is it a quick rhythmic buck or does it have no uniformity to the pulse? >> >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:35:48 -0400, Kristi & Lambert > wrote: >> >>> >>> Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >>> >>> >> >>> is back at the "bucking" as she called it. >> >>> bucking. >> >>> place. >> >>> (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it > starts >>> backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. >> >>> 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it >>> screwed up. >> >>> full throttle) >> >>> deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a > second >>> (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). >> >>> you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) >> >>>> >>> >>> Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we >>> lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put > the >>> "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. >>> >>> >>> Kristi & Lambert >>> '74 RWA Midget >>> '77 RB Midget >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Mar 25 11:43:16 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <464DAA4965924EA8A4719D72333B1183@personal> Message-ID: <346529.76750.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes I have been thinking electrical problem also. An intermittent ignition switch could cause similar problems, said to brought on by letting a large ring of keys hang from the switch. Anyway something easy to check by jiggling the key while running. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Fri, 3/25/11, Jack Laird wrote: Gesh, no spark at all, now thinik where spark comes from. Positive side of coil, do you have elec there. Does it go into the dizzy. Does it come out of Dizzy. Do the plugs have fire? Not a lot of options. so. is either, Coil, Condencer, Points sliped togheter mostly, or a bad dizzy cap. All bad plugs, noooo. All bad wires, Nooooo. Might I suggest checking the coil for out put and then changeing the condencer as you see if the points are opening and closing ok. Test coil by haveing someone crank engine while you see if fire comes off the wire as you get close to grounding it. If this does not work change the Dizzy cap. From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 11:45:04 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:45:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jess, They are mirror images of each other and NOT interchangeable. Hal On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jess Power wrote: > When converting a 1959 bugeye from a right to left hand driver,can the > same steering rack be used or does one need a "left hand steering rack"? > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 25 11:59:09 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <464DAA4965924EA8A4719D72333B1183@personal> Message-ID: <835750709.2004091.1301079549536.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Things that I have overlooked -- more than once! If there is 12V on the coil, is there 12V at the distributor with the points open? Are the points opening and closing? Is the little wire for the condensor shorting to the case? Is the rotor in place? Is the insulating washer under the points fulcrum? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" > Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we > lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put > the > "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 25 12:10:29 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net> Message-ID: <253263919.2004217.1301080229656.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> See if this helps?? http://www.mgaroadster.co.uk/Technical_Information/Simple%20Fault%20Finding.pdf -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Mar 25 12:11:48 2011 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:11:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E5AD8EE1C7D4A8B90E57137BA019C89@JimMainHP> A LH Drive rack is required -----Original Message----- From: Jess Power Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:53 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver When converting a 1959 bugeye from a right to left hand driver,can the same steering rack be used or does one need a "left hand steering rack"? Thanks Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi at frontiernet.net From millerls at ado13.com Fri Mar 25 12:20:15 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:20:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - 911 Engine Fire Potential In-Reply-To: References: <831160.39484.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <578379.90348.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <642E675D-EABF-4229-A321-DF237503DCEB@ado13.com> All older 911's had/have an engine fire potential. It is/was caused by a backfire blowing a hole in the airbox and lighting off the gas vapor. The fix is/was a pop-off valve installed in the air box. My 1978 911 SC did the deed in my garage. I got to it before it did any damage other then melting some plastic manifold tubes. The car was about 1 year old at the time and I still have it. Larry Miller On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I think that may have been a common problem with the 911 Turbos... I also From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 12:39:41 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:39:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <835750709.2004091.1301079549536.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <464DAA4965924EA8A4719D72333B1183@personal> <835750709.2004091.1301079549536.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: However, since the tach maintains the correct RPM during the "bucking" I might be tempted to enquire about the age of the fuel line. Could it be past its functional life and causing restriction? What kind of fuel pump, mechanical or electric? Hal On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Things that I have overlooked -- more than once! > > If there is 12V on the coil, is there 12V at the distributor with the > points open? > Are the points opening and closing? > Is the little wire for the condensor shorting to the case? > Is the rotor in place? > Is the insulating washer under the points fulcrum? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Laird" > > > Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and > we > > lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put > > the > > "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 12:54:19 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:54:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You need a steering rack from a left hand drive car. If you live in Texas, I'll trade ya steering racks!! On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Jess Power wrote: > When converting a 1959 bugeye from a right to left hand driver,can the > same steering rack be used or does one need a "left hand steering rack"? > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 13:02:25 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:02:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget Message-ID: I've had something similar recently. My ignition switch gave up entirely after running badly for a while. While running badly I could wiggle the key and get it to run better. Eventually had to trade out the ignition entirely and put in a new switch. The wiring to the switch was heating up, this caused bad things to happen in the switch. Now I still have some cutting out, I replaced cap & rotor & plugs yesterday and the cutting out was less but still there this morning. I will re-check the wiring to the ignition, the tach and the coil today. Rick (intermittently faulty) Bastedo From: fastvee To: Kristi & Lambert , Spridget List < spridgets at autox.team.net>, Jack Laird Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget Yes I have been thinking electrical problem also. An intermittent ignition switch could cause similar problems, said to brought on by letting a large ring of keys hang from the switch. Anyway something easy to check by jiggling the key while running. John Fogelsville, PA From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 13:07:04 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:07:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Paul A... Message-ID: Gerard is having some email issues so I'm posting this for him... There is a link to his blog from the Sprite-Midget Club website at: www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org Gerard says: ***************** I have started a page at the following link, I expect to be adding more content, but wanted to get something started for now. This will allow people who would like to tell anecdotes or post photos of their experiences with Paul can do so. Express yourself if you care to. http://paulasgeirssonmemorial.wordpress.com/ Also linked from my home page. Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 13:19:08 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:19:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: References: <464DAA4965924EA8A4719D72333B1183@personal> <835750709.2004091.1301079549536.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: A good thought, Hal. Deterioration of the internal parts of the soft fuel line is easy to overlook. Also check the fuel filter for clogging?? Electrically, I'd put a known "good" coil and condensor in it and try that... Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > However, since the tach maintains the correct RPM during the "bucking" I > might be tempted to enquire about the age of the fuel line. Could it be > past its functional life and causing restriction? > What kind of fuel pump, mechanical or electric? > Hal > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > > Things that I have overlooked -- more than once! > > > > If there is 12V on the coil, is there 12V at the distributor with the > > points open? > > Are the points opening and closing? > > Is the little wire for the condensor shorting to the case? > > Is the rotor in place? > > Is the insulating washer under the points fulcrum? > > > > -- > > Dave G KK7SS > > DN06ig > > > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > > '65 Sprite - in process > > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jack Laird" > > > > > Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and > > we > > > lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. > Put > > > the > > > "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. From jessmd1 at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 13:20:58 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:20:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes Message-ID: I know that right hand drivers are more rare but which would be easier to sell in the U.S.,a RHD or a LHD bugeye? From lmacy at mac.com Fri Mar 25 13:31:33 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:31:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <464DAA4965924EA8A4719D72333B1183@personal> References: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net> <464DAA4965924EA8A4719D72333B1183@personal> Message-ID: <438B5149-DDDE-44C4-839D-72880F9A56C9@mac.com> The no spark thing happened when we changed the dizzy, put the other one back, still no spark. It's cold and getting dark. Push car off street, go inside for pizza, figure out spark later. Larry On Mar 25, 2011, at 13:54 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Gesh, no spark at all, now thinik where spark comes from. Positive side of coil, do you have elec there. Does it go into the dizzy. Does it come out of Dizzy. Do the plugs have fire? > > Not a lot of options. so. is either, Coil, Condencer, Points sliped togheter mostly, or a bad dizzy cap. All bad plugs, noooo. All bad wires, Nooooo. > > Might I suggest checking the coil for out put and then changeing the condencer as you see if the points are opening and closing ok. > > Test coil by haveing someone crank engine while you see if fire comes off the wire as you get close to grounding it. > > If this does not work change the Dizzy cap. > > > >> Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >> >> >>>> On the way home Saturday nite, I got a call. Kristi is in trouble. Her car >> is back at the "bucking" as she called it. >>>> >>>> I had to back track 30 min to find her on Rt 9. Her car is surging, not >> bucking. >>>> -- I rode in it for a few and then lead the 40 mph caravan back to my >> place. >>>> >>>> As best as I can describe it acts like it is getting fuel for a minute >> (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it starts >> backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. >>>> >>>> The idle and carbs have been played with til the cows came home, We had the >> 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it >> screwed up. >>>> >>>> If I had to guess I have two hypotheses. >>>> >>>> 1) partially blocked exhaust (works fie at idle, runs crappy at partial -> >> full throttle) >>>> >>>> 2) Fuel pump not delivering enough. it gets some to idle on, then cant >> deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a second >> (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). >>>> >>>> As best as I understand the valves are adjusted and the carbs are tuned (If >> you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) >>>> >>>> Ideas, Wild Assed Guesses, Anything?? all welcome!! >>>> >>> >> >> Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we >> lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put the >> "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. >> >> >> Kristi & Lambert >> '74 RWA Midget >> '77 RB Midget >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3528 - Release Date: 03/25/11 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 I have great faith in fools - my friends call it self-confidence. - Edgar Allen Poe From lmacy at mac.com Fri Mar 25 13:33:29 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:33:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <1849284320.2003361.1301076384520.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1849284320.2003361.1301076384520.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: surging, badly!! and backfiring visibly in the dark. At least the Statie prolly thought so as we drove down I-195 at 40 miles an hour in the dark. Larry On Mar 25, 2011, at 14:06 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > "Bucking" as in trying to run backwards? or > "Bucking" as in surging? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kristi & Lambert" > To: "Pete Chast" > Cc: "Spridget List" > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:00:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget > > There is no uniformity at all. THe only thing that seems to be common is that > it always happens when trying to accelerate. When at a constant speed it is > not to bad but the minute the gas pedal is even barely touched it starts the > "bucking" > > > Kristi & Lambert > '74 RWA Midget > '77 RB Midget > > > > On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Pete Chast wrote: > >> You have done all the major things. Its probably down now to looking for a > bad wire connection >> or a hot spot causing a vapor lock..... >> >> Is it a quick rhythmic buck or does it have no uniformity to the pulse? >> >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:35:48 -0400, Kristi & Lambert > wrote: >> >>> >>> Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >>> >>> >> >>> is back at the "bucking" as she called it. >> >>> bucking. >> >>> place. >> >>> (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it > starts >>> backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. >> >>> 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it >>> screwed up. >> >>> full throttle) >> >>> deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a > second >>> (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). >> >>> you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) >> >>>> >>> >>> Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we >>> lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put > the >>> "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. >>> >>> >>> Kristi & Lambert >>> '74 RWA Midget >>> '77 RB Midget >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kk7ss at frontier.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." -Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996 From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 25 13:40:49 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1925136144.2005510.1301085649185.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Backfiring -> either one or more plugs aren't firing properly and/or you're running rich! But, IIRC, you said the OSHIT had tuned your carbs. Yes? Two thoughts... What is the voltage at the coil when the engine is running? And, Does it still backfire/surge if you run a jumper lead from the battery to the coil?? Have you replaced the coil? -- maybe going intermittent when it gets hot, BTDT! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macy Larry" and backfiring visibly in the dark. At least the Statie prolly thought so as we drove down I-195 at 40 miles an hour in the dark. From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Mar 25 13:45:55 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:45:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c4a79$bh30ul@email.mtu.edu> Me too! Although mine failed by activating the starter while the engine was running. Wiggle the switch At 04:02 PM 3/25/2011, Rick Bastedo wrote: >I've had something similar recently. >My ignition switch gave up Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 25 14:12:27 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes References: Message-ID: <004A442ECEDD4D5BBDEAB0A462D39A6D@YOURF074400E59> RHD is fun and unique, but it can be a PITA, too. Drive-thrus and toll booths are a pain, but having to pull way out to see if it's safe to pass somebody can be a bit unsafe. Not that Bugeyes have to worry about passing much. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Power" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes I know that right hand drivers are more rare but which would be easier to sell in the U.S.,a RHD or a LHD bugeye? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From aseippel at austin.rr.com Fri Mar 25 14:26:18 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:26:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net> References: <2A8526F7-4155-499E-8253-B660FB3C7713@comcast.net> Message-ID: <04d001cbeb33$479ef3d0$d6dcdb70$@rr.com> Did anybody possibly change out the coil and replace it with a coil designed for an external ballast resistor? Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kristi & Lambert Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:36 AM To: Spridget List Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget Reposted on Spridget List with the permission of Larry Macy. >> On the way home Saturday nite, I got a call. Kristi is in trouble. Her car is back at the "bucking" as she called it. >> >> I had to back track 30 min to find her on Rt 9. Her car is surging, not bucking. >> -- I rode in it for a few and then lead the 40 mph caravan back to my place. >> >> As best as I can describe it acts like it is getting fuel for a minute (surge) the just quits for a second (bucks). If over 40 - 45 mph, it starts backfiring, with flame and everything from the tail pipe. >> >> The idle and carbs have been played with til the cows came home, We had the 2 best OSHITers available working on it today. ANd then on the way home it screwed up. >> >> If I had to guess I have two hypotheses. >> >> 1) partially blocked exhaust (works fie at idle, runs crappy at partial -> full throttle) >> >> 2) Fuel pump not delivering enough. it gets some to idle on, then cant deliver enough to run on at higher RPM. so it starves the carbs for a second (bucks) and the refills them ( surge). >> >> As best as I understand the valves are adjusted and the carbs are tuned (If you doubt Frank and Kevin, tell them, not me) >> >> Ideas, Wild Assed Guesses, Anything?? all welcome!! >> > Since all of this the dizzy has been changed out with another dizzy and we lost spark. "New" dizzy was 180 degrees out so wires were changed. Put the "old" dizzy back in and wires switched back and still no spark. Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget From rdgard at cox.net Fri Mar 25 14:27:50 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:27:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Passing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33C38FD0E6104427A3C83F24EDD8DB54@OfficePC> I have talked to Al Clemens who took lots of Pix of Paul at the BusterCluster and he has given his permission t let Gerard use this photos of Paul on Gerard's site. I have copies of those pix and I will pass them on to Gerard to use as he see's fit. I will ask him to give Al credits on them. Cheers, Bob in San Diego Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com *************************************** From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Mar 25 15:07:25 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <04d001cbeb33$479ef3d0$d6dcdb70$@rr.com> Message-ID: <89654094.2006656.1301090845107.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Very good point... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Seippel" Did anybody possibly change out the coil and replace it with a coil designed for an external ballast resistor? From millerls at ado13.com Fri Mar 25 15:13:04 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:13:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Paul A... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FAC3D21-9F15-4C29-B142-682076C32CD0@ado13.com> Here is one of Al's pictures from Buster Cluster. Paul is third from right. Larry Miller On Mar 25, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Gerard is having some email issues so I'm posting this for him... > There is a link to his blog from the Sprite-Midget Club website > at: www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org > > Gerard says: > ***************** > I have started a page at the following link, I expect to be adding more > content, but wanted to get something started for now. This will allow > people who would like to tell anecdotes or post photos of their > experiences with Paul can do so. Express yourself if you care to. > > http://paulasgeirssonmemorial.wordpress.com/ > > Also linked from my home page. > > > Gerard > http://gerardsgarage.com/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/millerls at ado13.com From millerls at ado13.com Fri Mar 25 15:15:08 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:15:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Picture at Buster Cluster. Message-ID: <9E42F67A-B54C-4AF6-A764-9DE6CF014C37@ado13.com> Here is one of Al's pictures from Buster Cluster. Paul is third from right. Larry Miller http://ado13.com/BusterCluster_large.jpg From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Mar 25 15:38:09 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1954896956.1275544.1301092689425.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> With the later Spridgets, a RHD Morris Minor rack will do the trick. I would guess that a Bugeye is the same. Why on earth would you want to convert? I'd gladly switch mine to RHD if I didn't need to do all the dashboard conversion also. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" To: "Jess Power" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:45:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver Jess, They are mirror images of each other and NOT interchangeable. Hal On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jess Power wrote: > When converting a 1959 bugeye from a right to left hand driver,can the > same steering rack be used or does one need a "left hand steering rack"? > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri Mar 25 15:38:56 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:38:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes In-Reply-To: <004A442ECEDD4D5BBDEAB0A462D39A6D@YOURF074400E59> References: , <004A442ECEDD4D5BBDEAB0A462D39A6D@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: I am surprised that noone yet has said that the LHD steering rack for the Spridget is the same as the RHD rack for the Morris Minor and vice versa- They are NOT that uncommon in this country. BillM > From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > To: jessmd1 at comcast.net; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:12:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes > > RHD is fun and unique, but it can be a PITA, too. Drive-thrus and toll > booths are a pain, but having to pull way out to see if it's safe to pass > somebody can be a bit unsafe. Not that Bugeyes have to worry about passing > much. > > LAD > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jess Power" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:20 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes > > > I know that right hand drivers are more rare but which would be easier > to sell in the U.S.,a RHD or a LHD bugeye? > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Mar 25 15:56:09 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <642393.67324.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> For some strange reason, FOMOCO decided to sell the Pantera through its Lincoln dealers. Probably, because of the $10k price putting it in the high-end category. While beautiful, the Pantera initially suffered a lot of problems, like overheating and Italian rustosis. The simple lines of the original Pantera were modified through the years to accommodate wider rubber and huge rear wings (the "chairs and flares" cars) Over the years, cures have been found for most of the shortcomings, but consulting with an expert before purchase makes a lot of sense. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 3/25/11, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 10:43 AM > The Pantera > One of my favorite automobiles. And I had one of them stop in front of my house a few years ago. Owner was having some problems and pulled over to make sure it was going to make it home. There is so much to like in one of those! They just had an aura that felt right. Of course this guy wound up selling it and buying a Viper. Came back a year or so later and handed me the keys to the Viper and told me to take it for a spin. WOW! There is nothing like knowing that any time I wanted to pass someone it was simply a matter of pushing the right foot a fraction farther down. Good thing I have Spridgets; I would be a menace in one of those. Sadly enough, the Viper caught fire a couple weeks later. David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Mar 25 16:11:51 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:11:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <1925136144.2005510.1301085649185.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: If it's backfiring, you probably have a fuel line blockage. Check the fuel lines, filters, and the pickup in the tank. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Mar 25 16:13:51 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:13:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Picture at Buster Cluster. In-Reply-To: <9E42F67A-B54C-4AF6-A764-9DE6CF014C37@ado13.com> References: <9E42F67A-B54C-4AF6-A764-9DE6CF014C37@ado13.com> Message-ID: <4D8D21AF.9060302@justbrits.com> << Here is one of Al's pictures from Buster Cluster. >> Just so ya'll don't have to go diggin around, I STILL have Bob G's DISC and a disc FROM Al and a couple others from when I put Buster's "Cluster Story" together. So relax !! Now if you have ONE [1] of a kind [or more ], for just a short time, you can send to me and I'll hold for Gerard. We are workin' together. Ed From haynes386 at netzero.net Fri Mar 25 16:26:27 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:26:27 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: converting to a left hand driver Message-ID: <20110325.172627.23934.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Or if you can find a RHD Morris Minor in a yard, its the same rack as used for a LHD Spridget (and vice-versa), they just turned them over for the application. Mark Haynes HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4d8d24d55e010368acbst03duc From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Mar 25 16:59:51 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite In-Reply-To: <642393.67324.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <970284.39700.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> They are complete pieces of junk on the racetrack. --- On Fri, 3/25/11, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 5:56 PM For some strange reason, FOMOCO decided to sell the Pantera through its Lincoln dealers. Probably, because of the $10k price putting it in the high-end category. While beautiful, the Pantera initially suffered a lot of problems, like overheating and Italian rustosis. The simple lines of the original Pantera were modified through the years to accommodate wider rubber and huge rear wings (the "chairs and flares" cars) Over the years, cures have been found for most of the shortcomings, but consulting with an expert before purchase makes a lot of sense. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 3/25/11, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 10:43 AM > The Pantera > One of my favorite automobiles. And I had one of them stop in front of my house a few years ago. Owner was having some problems and pulled over to make sure it was going to make it home. There is so much to like in one of those! They just had an aura that felt right. Of course this guy wound up selling it and buying a Viper. Came back a year or so later and handed me the keys to the Viper and told me to take it for a spin. WOW! There is nothing like knowing that any time I wanted to pass someone it was simply a matter of pushing the right foot a fraction farther down. Good thing I have Spridgets; I would be a menace in one of those. Sadly enough, the Viper caught fire a couple weeks later. David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Mar 25 17:10:42 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them Message-ID: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Since it's looking like I may be supplying the tow vehicle to get to Newfoundland, I took a few hours off today and browsed trucks with the family. I drove 2 versions of the F-150 and the 5.7L Dodge. I don't know what all the complaining is about - these things all absolutely rock. The engines are psychotic - I drove the new Ford eco-boost V-6 thing - how it has 100 or so more horsepower and gets 8 mpg better than my 2002's 4.6L V-8 is beyond me (not to mention 5000 pounds more towing capacity). I got on it pretty good and to quote Jon Bauer, 'she goes!". The 5L v8 was also quite the stump puller and sounded nice. The chassis certainly seemed tight as could be in a parking lot speed bump test that the dealer took me on. The Dodge 1500 was pretty awesome, and the 5.7L feels like a proper motor as well. The coil over rear suspension was ridiculed by the Ford dealer, but it was exceptionally supple and a very comfortable ride from a 4x4. The prices were, however, a little ridiculousm but so was everything ont he show room floor. That is all... Ron From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Mar 25 17:34:22 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:34:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2426E692C00C47C79DA2A7D649A81441@spider> Rent one for the tow? ...bill in corvallis ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 5:11 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them Since it's looking like I may be supplying the tow vehicle to get to Newfoundland, I took a few hours off today and browsed trucks with the family. I drove 2 versions of the F-150 and the 5.7L Dodge. I don't know what all the complaining is about - these things all absolutely rock. The engines are psychotic - I drove the new Ford eco-boost V-6 thing - how it has 100 or so more horsepower and gets 8 mpg better than my 2002's 4.6L V-8 is beyond me (not to mention 5000 pounds more towing capacity). I got on it pretty good and to quote Jon Bauer, 'she goes!". The 5L v8 was also quite the stump puller and sounded nice. The chassis certainly seemed tight as could be in a parking lot speed bump test that the dealer took me on. The Dodge 1500 was pretty awesome, and the 5.7L feels like a proper motor as well. The coil over rear suspension was ridiculed by the Ford dealer, but it was exceptionally supple and a very comfortable ride from a 4x4. The prices were, however, a little ridiculous, but so was everything on the show room floor. That is all... Ron _______________________________________________ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Mar 25 18:01:03 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite In-Reply-To: <970284.39700.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <371282.22408.qm@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Would that be a racetrack with curves or only a 1/4 mile straight? Always thought of them as a GT, rather than a roadracer. Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 3/25/11, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Itaiy and America Unite To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 7:59 PM They are complete pieces of junk on the racetrack. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 18:09:34 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:09:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tell me about it..the Suburban is getting long in the tooth but a replacement, with similar equipment, would cost close to $60,000 American! I mean I could almost paint the Jag for that! Lester On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > snip > The prices were, however, a little ridiculousm but so was everything ont he show room floor. > > That is all... > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Mar 25 18:41:49 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: References: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <760497.61608.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> That's a lot of $$$ for a truck with one seat. jay fishbein wallingford, ct Tell me about it..the Suburban is getting long in the tooth but a replacement, with similar equipment, would cost close to $60,000 American! From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Mar 25 18:46:57 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump Mounting Bracket Message-ID: I found a fuel pump mount that I want to install in my Bugeye. It is from a later car with the Lucas pump. It is angled so that the top of the bracket fits to the bottom of the shelf in front of the wheel wells. What I don't know is if the slotted end mounts up or down on the vertical surface. Any help appreciated. Mark From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Fri Mar 25 19:02:29 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015901cbeb59$df7e8aa0$9e7b9fe0$@net> Did you hook a trailer on either one of them? Unloaded versus loaded can be quite different and ratings are BS... veraua real world. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:11 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them Since it's looking like I may be supplying the tow vehicle to get to Newfoundland, I took a few hours off today and browsed trucks with the family. I drove 2 versions of the F-150 and the 5.7L Dodge. I don't know what all the complaining is about - these things all absolutely rock. The engines are psychotic - I drove the new Ford eco-boost V-6 thing - how it has 100 or so more horsepower and gets 8 mpg better than my 2002's 4.6L V-8 is beyond me (not to mention 5000 pounds more towing capacity). I got on it pretty good and to quote Jon Bauer, 'she goes!". The 5L v8 was also quite the stump puller and sounded nice. The chassis certainly seemed tight as could be in a parking lot speed bump test that the dealer took me on. The Dodge 1500 was pretty awesome, and the 5.7L feels like a proper motor as well. The coil over rear suspension was ridiculed by the Ford dealer, but it was exceptionally supple and a very comfortable ride from a 4x4. The prices were, however, a little ridiculousm but so was everything ont he show room floor. That is all... Ron Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From millerls at ado13.com Fri Mar 25 19:06:46 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:06:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Buster Cluster Poster Message-ID: <9844DDB1-AA21-4612-842E-19D82E121982@ado13.com> ********************************* Poster from BusterCluster 2006 http://ado13.com/BusterCluster.jpg To order a copy in poster format, click on the following link http://www.zazzle.com/pd/find/pt-228 Then search on "BusterCluster 2006" BusterCluster is one word. The poster comes in various sizes. Click on one of the thumbnails for info on price and size. Any proceeds will go to the ALS foundation. There are only pennies profit on each poster so the ALS donation is very small. From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Mar 25 19:14:53 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <320206231.1278250.1301105524813.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <919354211.1278291.1301105693416.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I drive past the Chevy dealer on my way to work, and if you look closely at all those lovely $60,000 trucks, you will notice that the paint on the body does not match the paint on the doors. The electronics are an absolute nightmare. On our 2009s, we need to replace headlights monthly, the dash lights look like a Christmas tree, and the only place that will touch them is the Chevy dealer, who averages a week to diagnose the problem, another to wait for parts, and one more to 1/2 assed repair the things until the next time the same problem happens. Most are on their third set of brakes because they were not meant to be driven on gravel roads. Huh? All have been in at least three times each for fuel tank vent blockage repair. It's annoying standing outside in -20 degree weather putting in gas 12 cents at a time until the tank is full. The service manager kept trying to insist that we needed a new fuel pump, and actually put one on, although it didn't fix the problem. Trying to explain that our problem was getting the gas into the tank, not out of it did, not change his diagnosis. A very polite chat with the general manager, in the middle of the sales floor among the people contemplating buying one of the over priced junkers, was slightly more successful. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:09:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them Tell me about it..the Suburban is getting long in the tooth but a replacement, with similar equipment, would cost close to $60,000 American! I mean I could almost paint the Jag for that! Lester On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > snip > The prices were, however, a little ridiculousm but so was everything ont he show room floor. > > That is all... > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Mar 25 19:17:50 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <015901cbeb59$df7e8aa0$9e7b9fe0$@net> Message-ID: <116682.32976.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Leo, You're absolutely right. You should buy my 2002. It's much better than the new ones. --- On Fri, 3/25/11, cathey speichinger wrote: Did you hook a trailer on either one of them? Unloaded versus loaded can be quite different and ratings are BS... veraua real world. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 19:48:10 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:48:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake Message-ID: I have had this question in my head for a while and thought I would throw it out to the list. How does a Jake brake work? I understand that it shuts off or controls the output of the exhaust which causes back up pressure to slow the engine for engine braking? The engine would need to be firing in order for their to be exhaust to cause back pressure? Just something that has bothered me. . and I could not seem to find anything on line that would give a good breakdown of the process. Certainly there are those on the list who have a good understanding as to how this braking process works in big diesel rigs. Thanks, Kirk From shop at justbrits.com Fri Mar 25 19:58:25 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:58:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes In-Reply-To: <004A442ECEDD4D5BBDEAB0A462D39A6D@YOURF074400E59> References: <004A442ECEDD4D5BBDEAB0A462D39A6D@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: <4D8D5651.5010902@justbrits.com> Sorry Larry, but i have to comment: << ...toll booths are a pain, ... >> Ask Frank about driving "Pieces" thru IND & ILL in the RAIN whilst paying tolls, checking route with ME on cell phone when he was coming here and thenst onto Ron & Peter !!!! His "comments" were "interesting" !!!! Ed From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 25 20:03:58 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:03:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver In-Reply-To: <1954896956.1275544.1301092689425.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: , <1954896956.1275544.1301092689425.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I think it's important to have the proper vin also that shows that it was manufactured as a RHD. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:38:09 +0000 > From: kgb at frontiernet.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] converting to a left hand driver > > With the later Spridgets, a RHD Morris Minor rack will do the trick. I would guess that a Bugeye is the same. Why on earth would you want to convert? I'd gladly switch mine to RHD if I didn't need to do all the dashboard conversion also. > > Kate From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 20:06:14 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:06:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Buster Cluster Poster In-Reply-To: <9844DDB1-AA21-4612-842E-19D82E121982@ado13.com> References: <9844DDB1-AA21-4612-842E-19D82E121982@ado13.com> Message-ID: I wish I could have been there. That was one of those magical times. People try very hard to make things like that happen. But, you can't fabricate the magic. I find that if you associate with quality people those magic times happen more often and spontaneously. In a world of earthquakes, tsunamis, and war the Spridget list is certainly a wonderful thing. Cheers to all. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 20:10:42 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:10:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <987967.8813.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D8D5932.2090105@comcast.net> Here is what I can say. My brother in law has a 2010 GMC it is in the shop monthly, and it forever needs a parking light bulb or something. The gauges go out totally every couple of weeks but the truck still runs and then the gauges all start to work. He is and has been a chevy man his whole life so he bites the bullet for his love. I have a 2010 F-150, 11,000 miles so far and nothing went wrong. I do not like the automatic tranny but that's all you can get. It does tow a trailer with a Spridget on it and you don't even know it. The bed is 4" too tall, sure it will hold more cargo for the one time you need to fill it to the rim but that equates to having to climb in or over the rails 10 times a day for me and I hate that. I can not reach anything in the bed over the rails without having to climb in or over the rails. The parking lamps go on every time I open the door and somebody will tell you that the lights are on. Another one of Fords "better ideas" I think it is the best looking of the pick ups. It is still made mostly in the USA. It doesn't have a mexican engine like it's competitor ;) And as for Dodge, is it Fiat yet? As for 60,000 trucks, why not buy a Cadillac for that price, my truck cost under 22k, I paid about 24 with tax, tags, optional chrome grill and chrome rear step bumper. I don't have heated 8 way leather power seats, it's a truck, I got all that foo-foo crap in the Jag. There are jap trucks too, the Tundra which gets 10 miles per gallon pulling a trailer. I know this for a fact, Tiff's ex had one and he towed a Sprite to LotO with it. He stopped for gas everytime I stopped in the Sprite, 6 gallons vs 22 gallons. And the Nissan but that is just flat out FUGLY! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 20:12:03 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:12:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <116682.32976.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <015901cbeb59$df7e8aa0$9e7b9fe0$@net> <116682.32976.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I like Diesels, though the new ones get terrible mileage compared to the ones from a few years ago. Also, check out the Tundras. I'm a Ford guy but I would look hard at the Duramax, Cummins, and then the Ford offerings. My buddy had a E-350 van with the big Diesel motor. It got 20MPG regularly and high teens towing an 18' trailer loaded. Look into Tekonsha brake controllers, too, they are great. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 20:21:56 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:21:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I thought a Jo brake or jake brake was a Diesel thing that restricted the exhaust and did as you described. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 20:23:05 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:23:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_release_engine_brake From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 20:56:32 2011 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:56:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kirk, Jake Brakes work because the mechanicals are a bit different between diesel and gasoline engines. A gasoline engine has a butterfly valve that limits air intake when the throttle isn't depressed, so there isn't much pressure built up on the compression stroke. Diesel engines don't have these, and continue to build up pressure even when no throttle is active, and causes a bit of acceleration due to the pressure build up which forces the piston back down. So Jake Brakes are extra mechanicals that release the pressure from the compression strokes, and that extra pressure getting released causes the "machine gun" sounds when the Jake Brake is activated and helps to slow the forward momentum of the vehicle. Greg Gowins Driftwood, TX On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I have had this question in my head for a while and thought I would throw it > out to the list. > > How does a Jake brake work? I understand that it shuts off or controls the > output of the exhaust which causes back up pressure to slow the engine for > engine braking? > > The engine would need to be firing in order for their to be exhaust to cause > back pressure? > > Just something that has bothered me. . and I could not seem to find > anything on line that would give a good breakdown of the process. > > Certainly there are those on the list who have a good understanding as to > how this braking process works in big diesel rigs. > > Thanks, > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eric.t.cartman at gmail.com From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 21:43:33 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: How does a Jake brake work? I understand that it shuts off or controls the output of the exhaust which causes back up pressure to slow the engine for engine braking? --------------------------------------------------- I could be way off base here because of the modern interpretation on Wiki but back in the early 70s I was involved in the trucking industry and a Jake brake was a clutch add-on that slowed the engine RPM when the clutch was depressed so that the next gear could be selected without a lot of grinding. They were common on 1950s era big trucks that did not have fully syncho'ed gearboxes. My lifelong memory is of a 1955 Autocar tri-axle tow truck in Harry & Carl's towing fleet here in Cincy. I would see it ocassionally and it made the neatest noises of any diesel that I ever heard. The driver would spin up in 1st, it would snort loudly, go into second, snort again, etc. That thing would shift 6 or 7 times before it would clear a large intersection. A way cool truck! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat Mar 26 07:43:50 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:43:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110326144350.788HU.54821.root@cdptpa-web13-z01> That's correct. In a diesel the engine sucks in as much air as it wants, the piston compresses the air, then at the top of the stroke assuming you aren't injecting fuel the compressed air pushes the piston back down. It is like a spring- compress the spring then let the spring push back out and you haven't exerted any net work. BUT if you do the work to compress the spring, then have a mechanism that releases the spring, you don't get the work back out of the spring. In the diesel engine it compresses the air, then the jake brake opens and lets the compression out before the compressed air can push the piston back down. So basically the engine is functioning as an air compressor. > Jake Brakes work because the mechanicals are a bit different between > diesel and gasoline engines. A gasoline engine has a butterfly valve > that limits air intake when the throttle isn't depressed, so there > isn't much pressure built up on the compression stroke. Diesel > engines don't have these, and continue to build up pressure even when > no throttle is active, and causes a bit of acceleration due to the > pressure build up which forces the piston back down. So Jake Brakes > are extra mechanicals that release the pressure from the compression > strokes, and that extra pressure getting released causes the "machine > gun" sounds when the Jake Brake is activated and helps to slow the > forward momentum of the vehicle. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat Mar 26 07:52:12 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:52:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110326145213.GHCET.54873.root@cdptpa-web13-z01> Adding computer controls to the engines reinvigorated the popularity of diesels while almost killing them at the same time. The complexity of some of them is utterly amazing, for a principle that can be so simple. And the complexity lead to reliability problems, difficult to diagnose, expensive to fix. I'm talking about the Ford engines mostly because those are the ones that we have had the most experience with. All of them have electronic controls though. The ability to reprogram the computer and make a lot more power has made diesels a lot more popular, and that wasn't possible when they used direct mechanical injection. I think if you need to tow heavy stuff then the diesels make good sense. If you don't need heavy towing then a good gasoline engine is OK. Of course a lot of people buy pickups that don't need them. If you need a pickup to do a pickup's job then you certainly don't need a Japanese pickup, but if you think you need a pickup to carry a bag of fertilizer home from the grocery store than a Japanese truck might be OK for that. Dodge pickups were totally reborn in the early 1990's and they are now very popular. They are good trucks although the bodies will self destruct around the powertrain well before the other brands will. The Dodge powertrains are good, and the other brands are good too. I have my suspicions about the new ecoboost Fords but time will tell. > I like Diesels, though the new ones get terrible mileage compared to > the ones from a few years ago. > > I'm a Ford guy but I would look hard at > the Duramax, Cummins, and then the Ford offerings. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 08:01:47 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:01:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: <20110326144350.788HU.54821.root@cdptpa-web13-z01> References: <20110326144350.788HU.54821.root@cdptpa-web13-z01> Message-ID: Thanks, great explanation. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:43:50 To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake That's correct. In a diesel the engine sucks in as much air as it wants, the piston compresses the air, then at the top of the stroke assuming you aren't injecting fuel the compressed air pushes the piston back down. It is like a spring- compress the spring then let the spring push back out and you haven't exerted any net work. BUT if you do the work to compress the spring, then have a mechanism that releases the spring, you don't get the work back out of the spring. In the diesel engine it compresses the air, then the jake brake opens and lets the compression out before the compressed air can push the piston back down. So basically the engine is functioning as an air compressor. > Jake Brakes work because the mechanicals are a bit different between > diesel and gasoline engines. A gasoline engine has a butterfly valve > that limits air intake when the throttle isn't depressed, so there > isn't much pressure built up on the compression stroke. Diesel > engines don't have these, and continue to build up pressure even when > no throttle is active, and causes a bit of acceleration due to the > pressure build up which forces the piston back down. So Jake Brakes > are extra mechanicals that release the pressure from the compression > strokes, and that extra pressure getting released causes the "machine > gun" sounds when the Jake Brake is activated and helps to slow the > forward momentum of the vehicle. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kentmclean at comcast.net Sat Mar 26 08:22:31 2011 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:22:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D8E04B7.7010200@comcast.net> Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > How does a Jake brake work? Let me google that for you: :) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 26 08:43:10 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: <20110326152443.1F2E41878CB@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1759316495.2013245.1301154190539.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Thanks for the explanation. Now I can understand how it works I know it's not LBC, but why do I see signs that say "No Air Brakes"? Direct reply is ok if no one else is interested! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "an5 sprite" In the diesel engine it compresses the air, then the jake brake opens and lets the compression out before the compressed air can push the piston back down. So basically the engine is functioning as an air compressor. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Mar 26 09:42:06 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:42:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <20110326145213.GHCET.54873.root@cdptpa-web13-z01> Message-ID: > I think if you need to tow heavy stuff then the diesels make good sense. Most cars sold in Europe are diesel powered because it's more efficient, greener, and cheaper. It hasn't caught on here because we tax diesel so much. From george.brokaw at cox.net Sat Mar 26 09:58:42 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:58:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: <1759316495.2013245.1301154190539.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <20110326152443.1F2E41878CB@autox.team.net> <1759316495.2013245.1301154190539.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <07f301cbebd7$0fdc6870$2f953950$@brokaw@cox.net> I think you meant "NO JAKE BRAKES" and the reason is the noise... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:43 AM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake Thanks for the explanation. Now I can understand how it works I know it's not LBC, but why do I see signs that say "No Air Brakes"? Direct reply is ok if no one else is interested! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From mdmyersct at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 10:06:03 2011 From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (Michael Myers) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:06:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: References: <20110326152443.1F2E41878CB@autox.team.net> <1759316495.2013245.1301154190539.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Here is the information straight from the source: http://www.jakebrake.com/technology/compression-release-brakes/ Mike Myers On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. > Now I can understand how it works > > I know it's not LBC, but why do I see signs that say "No Air Brakes"? > > Direct reply is ok if no one else is interested! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 26 10:30:07 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] New trucks again, NLBC except to tow them In-Reply-To: <1538731715.2014413.1301160438334.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1548707450.2014448.1301160607910.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> >From my son that lives in Paris and has two diesel VW's... "As of this morning, Diesel is just over $6 a gallon in Paris, $5 a gallon in Calais, France, 10% higher on the Autoroutes and 22% cheaper in Luxembourg." Ouch!!! >From the horses mouth... http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/index.php?module=dbgestion&action=fsearch or http://tinyurl.com/4w4xzv "Gazole" is Diesel, Paris is "75" (smaller diagram at top right!) Nice is "06" (drop down at left) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- F. Most cars sold in Europe are diesel powered because it's more efficient, greener, and cheaper. It hasn't caught on here because we tax diesel so much. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 11:09:49 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:09:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Question - Jake Brake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, the article did it for me. . . much appreciated. Kirk On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:23 PM, derf wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_release_engine_brake From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 26 11:39:55 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes In-Reply-To: <4D8D5651.5010902@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <545019918.1285274.1301164794956.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> We don't have toll booths out west, so I was spared that minor annoyance when I had the Minor. It can be amusing to have a state trooper try to ticket your dog for speeding, though. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:58:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes Sorry Larry, but i have to comment: << ...toll booths are a pain, ... >> Ask Frank about driving "Pieces" thru IND & ILL in the RAIN whilst paying tolls, checking route with ME on cell phone when he was coming here and thenst onto Ron & Peter !!!! His "comments" were "interesting" !!!! Ed Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Sat Mar 26 13:13:38 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes In-Reply-To: <545019918.1285274.1301164794956.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <369440646.2015741.1301170418930.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> The just *has* to be a story there waiting to be told,,, Huh? Huh? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: kgb at frontiernet.net We don't have toll booths out west, so I was spared that minor annoyance when I had the Minor. It can be amusing to have a state trooper try to ticket your dog for speeding, though. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 13:15:46 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:15:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Bugeye Carpet at Walmart Message-ID: I needed some carpet to redo the area around the hump of my shifter and found black carpet at Walmart that cuts clean with a supposed non fray backing. It says that it has been treated for stain resistance with stain guard. . $10.0 and I checked, yes the quality is there as it is made in China. Ha ha But it is working for a quick fix while I am waiting to get the interior of my Sprite re-done in red. Just thought I would mention. 36" by 72" Kirk 59 1275 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 13:32:10 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:32:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes In-Reply-To: <545019918.1285274.1301164794956.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <4D8D5651.5010902@justbrits.com> <545019918.1285274.1301164794956.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Left vs. Right Bugeyes?? I never realized that these little cars had political leanings!! Cheers!! Jim -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 13:43:02 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:43:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues Message-ID: The things I am reading about the issues with late model Chevy / GMC trucks is such a bummer as I love Chevy's and wish I could consider a new one for my next truck. In 2001 I bought (new) a Chevy truck based on the S10 frame . . factory lowered by 2 inches. . . . (known as the Xtreme). I sold it at around 110,000 miles and to tell the truth it held up very well through the years. When I sold it. . it was running just as strong and smooth as when I bought it. It had the 4.3 V6 which is said to be more reliable than the 4 cylinder version. I did have to replace a fuel pump which might have been in part my fault for allowing it to run low on gas as much as I did? I have been told that running low on fuel too often can harm the internal fuel pump. Maybe some comments on this as I am not sure if this is true or not (running low on fuel too often can cause an early demise of your internal fuel pump)? I was very happy with the reliability experienced with my V6 S10 type. I wish I was hearing the same things about the larger GMC and Chevy trucks that have been built in Toluca over the past few years. Toluca Mexico. . right? Or somewhere down there. (The PT Cruiser's are made in Toluca Mexico). Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 14:06:37 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:06:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy Diesels Message-ID: I am reading this and thinking of the diesel engine that General Motors came out with in the early 1980's where they tried to make a diesel engine out of a small block gas engine. . a huge failure by way of an attempt to cut costs. As bad or worse than the Vega all aluminum engine that had aluminum cylinder walls. Does anyone remember this converted small block that did not stand the test of time? I do not recall the exact reason why this design did not work. . something to do with the cylinder head gaskets blowing all the time. . . or some other inherent design factor that left so many of these stranded by the side of the road? Kirk From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Mar 26 14:28:59 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <248179.31736.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have a 2005 GMC 2500 HD with 4 wheel steering and 4wd for a work/delivery truck at the hangar, and it has been perfect in pretty abusive duty. The "check airbag" light came on recently, that's the first thing that's ever gone wrong with it. Ron --- On Sat, 3/26/11, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: From: Kirk Hargreaves Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 3:43 PM The things I am reading about the issues with late model Chevy / GMC trucks is such a bummer as I love Chevy's and wish I could consider a new one for my next truck. In 2001 I bought (new) a Chevy truck based on the S10 frame . . factory lowered by 2 inches. . . . (known as the Xtreme). I sold it at around 110,000 miles and to tell the truth it held up very well through the years. When I sold it. . it was running just as strong and smooth as when I bought it. It had the 4.3 V6 which is said to be more reliable than the 4 cylinder version. I did have to replace a fuel pump which might have been in part my fault for allowing it to run low on gas as much as I did? I have been told that running low on fuel too often can harm the internal fuel pump. Maybe some comments on this as I am not sure if this is true or not (running low on fuel too often can cause an early demise of your internal fuel pump)? I was very happy with the reliability experienced with my V6 S10 type. I wish I was hearing the same things about the larger GMC and Chevy trucks that have been built in Toluca over the past few years. Toluca Mexico. . right? Or somewhere down there. (The PT Cruiser's are made in Toluca Mexico). Kirk Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Mar 26 14:50:52 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:50:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy Diesels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D8E5FBC.3010204@comcast.net> On 3/26/2011 5:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I am reading this and thinking of the diesel engine that General Motors came > out with in the early 1980's where they tried to make a diesel engine out of > a small block gas engine. . a huge failure by way of an attempt to cut > costs. As bad or worse than the Vega all aluminum engine that had aluminum > cylinder walls. > > Does anyone remember this converted small block that did not stand the test > of time? > I had a friend that bought an Oldsmobile 350 diesel (I think it was an Olds and I think it was a 350) A GM V8 diesel for sure. 1980 give or take a year, it was a nightmare. He will never own another diesel thanks to that car. I think he had it only 2 years. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Mar 26 15:25:16 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:25:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy Diesels In-Reply-To: <4D8E5FBC.3010204@comcast.net> References: <4D8E5FBC.3010204@comcast.net> Message-ID: ...bill in corvallis http://tinyurl.com/4c9y94l ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:51 PM To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chevy Diesels On 3/26/2011 5:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I am reading this and thinking of the diesel engine that General Motors came > out with in the early 1980's where they tried to make a diesel engine out of > a small block gas engine. . a huge failure by way of an attempt to cut > costs. As bad or worse than the Vega all aluminum engine that had aluminum > cylinder walls. > > Does anyone remember this converted small block that did not stand the test > of time? >======================================================== I had a friend that bought an Oldsmobile 350 diesel (I think it was an Olds and I think it was a 350) A GM V8 diesel for sure. 1980 give or take a year, it was a nightmare. He will never own another diesel thanks to that car. I think he had it only 2 years. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Mar 26 15:33:00 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:33:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Bugeye Carpet at Walmart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: UV is the deal. The car carpet they sell at Pep Boys, etc will disintegrate from sunlight in a few months. The carpet available for covering speaker cabinets will last for a few years, even in direct sunlight. BZ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 26 17:19:53 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:19:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes In-Reply-To: References: <4D8D5651.5010902@justbrits.com>, <545019918.1285274.1301164794956.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>, Message-ID: Centre is worse. Difficult shifting. > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:32:10 -0500 > From: bmwwxman at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] left verses right hand bugeyes > > Left vs. Right Bugeyes?? I never realized that these little cars had > political leanings!! > > Cheers!! > Jim > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sat Mar 26 17:34:58 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:34:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy Diesels In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01cbec16$cd581a90$68084fb0$@net> Had to do with the compression difference. Crank couldn't hold up, nor could the head studs. The 7.3 Powerstroke that ford had in service from late 1994 to early 20054 was literally the best diesel motor Ford has ever produced. Beat the hell out of them and they will still make the 500k mile mark. Take care of them and they will make the 750k mark easily. If you understood the injector system on the Powerstroke and understood that the wiring harness for the injectors ran inside the valve covers and as such were subjected to a lot of heat nad such then it became easy to diagnose problems with them. Prior to 1004 Ford's diesel was made by International and was of an Indirect Injection type with a mechanical injection fuel pump; You could get more power out of them by recurving the pump and installing bigger injector nozzles but without a turbo they would run out of power. When the Powerstroke was introduced and direct injection and the turbo along with the electronic injection pump they came to life. Add a programmer and you really have a beast. If you are loking for a good truck buy an early 2004 Ford with the 7.3 , run it till it is tired, have the motor rebuilt (around 6K for a rebuild) and run it for another 750 thousand miles. The 6.0 is junk (weak heads, and studs) and the 6.5 is almost as bad. If you buy one of them sell the truck before the warranty runs out as repairs will rip the wallet apart (3k to replace the head gaskets and studs. 3500 for a complete injector replace, .. Oh yea, to do the heads involves raising the front end and cab off the chassis as the motor sits far back into the firewall). Done a motor r and r on a 2004 F-350 and it was time consuming but not difficult. Just make sure you have a HEAVY DUTY motor hoist as that sucker is HEAVY!! Leo Leo-----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:07 PM To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy Diesels I am reading this and thinking of the diesel engine that General Motors came out with in the early 1980's where they tried to make a diesel engine out of a small block gas engine. . a huge failure by way of an attempt to cut costs. As bad or worse than the Vega all aluminum engine that had aluminum cylinder walls. Does anyone remember this converted small block that did not stand the test of time? I do not recall the exact reason why this design did not work. . something to do with the cylinder head gaskets blowing all the time. . . or some other inherent design factor that left so many of these stranded by the side of the road? Kirk Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From shop at justbrits.com Sat Mar 26 19:59:46 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:59:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [midgetsprite] original bugeye for sale fyi] Message-ID: <4D8EA822.8010602@justbrits.com> This is AWESOME !! Wonder if the Lucas AIR is still in tyres?? Doesn't say whether Road Speeds or ______!! -------- Original Message -------- I saw this and thought someone may be interested, looks like a very fair price for a decent car- www.orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2288662450.html John __._,_.___ From millerls at ado13.com Fri Mar 25 21:04:24 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:04:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Buster Cluster Article by Ron Soave Message-ID: <3D547408-9829-40F7-A2ED-063649CE9A50@ado13.com> ED, Do you have this? Story By: Ron Soave OK, I just received an email from Larry Daniels echoing an idea a few of us have had in the works for a month or so. Buster's latest offer of generosity with AH Spares catalogs confirms - it is now time for the first call to arms for the first and, if we do it right, the only BUSTERCLUSTER. As anyone who has paid attention knows, Buster is the original owner of his 1960 Bugeye, and is in the process of restoring it. The restoration needs a jumpstart. In my recent "winter of hell" moving a business from California, I had the chance to hang out with Buster a bunch of times, talk cars and a lot else, break bread (and wind) with him at his beloved Mexicasa restaurant, and confirm my suspicions that he's one of the good guys (I also had the pleasure of meeting Billy Zoom, another great guy. In addition to sharing the Spridget addiction, there are many of us who grew up in NY listening to WLIR and watching Midnight Special who would have killed to see his iconic Gretsch Silver Jet guitar hanging in his studio as I did!). So....it's time for the Cluster. Buster's car is at paint right now, his shop is a good work space with organized tools and parts, it's ripe for the finishing. We may even have help from Moss (quiet Frank) to deliver parts at a severe discount, if not cost. Several Midwesterners and east coasters are up for the trip, and we know we can count on the leftcoasters to support this as well. This will likely be a few months from now in midsummer based on schedules, logistics, Buster's paint shop, etc. I ask for preliminary commitments now, and, for argument's sake, let's shoot for July 28th-30th for the Cluster, with some smaller pre-Clusters prior to that to ensure we can be at a state where Buster and Pam can drive the car around the block by the 30th. Billy Zoom is scheduled to have a pair of little Zooms arrive around that time, and maybe we can blitzkrieg his Sprite as well since it isn't likely he'll have a lot of time this summer after the twins arrive. Who's in? ------------------ A long time ago in a garage far, far away... Actually, it was just before Christmas 2005 in a garage in Anaheim. I was spending a lot of time in California on business, and I made contact with Buster to meet for dinner to break the work-drink-not sleep cycle. I normally drink a beer or 2 a week, during the Cal trips it was 8 to 15 a night. Not a good sign, and I was in need of some normalcy. Buster's idea of a good time for us was to hang out at a 1953 vintage McDonald's at a Thursday night impromptu car show and looking over the Bugeye that was trapped in suspended restoration in his garage, pretty much my kind of guy. As Buster has said, my first thought was that his garage was well-equipped, and with the car as original as it was, it would be a straightforward assembly job (body and paint excepted). I mentioned this, sprinkling the conversation with "Frank could have this done in two days" 4 or 5 times (and this was before I met the relentless dervish of activity and knowledge that is Glen Byrns, BTW). I very briefly met Pam, as she was not feeling especially well. She seemed to brighten up a bit having someone new in the house, despite the huge black circles under my eyes from a week of 13 hour work days followed by 5 or 6 hours of beer. And now my fingers smelled like French fries, to boot. I got home, and called Frank and Peter. I told them what I saw, and how I even had thought of "Bustercluster" as a good, catchy name that would probably reel in 3 or 4 other people. Both immediately said "I'm in." Fast forward to February, another meeting with Buster, this time at his beloved Mexicasa restaurant (which is Spanish for "many, many beans for very, very few pesos") where, despite his irritation that the prices had climbed to over $4 for an entree, we enjoyed dinner and more conversation about the Sprite. Buster told me of how he and Pam loved to entertain guests, and how they used to travel before circumstances came about that made it almost impossible. We brought some Mexicasa home for Miss Pam as I call her, and again she seemed to brighten up a bit. Pam pulled me aside and told me how much Buster enjoyed hanging out and BSing cars with me. So, basically, Pam told me how important it was to her for Buster to be happy, and Buster told me how important it was to him for Pam to be happy. I called Peter and Frank again, told them that if Buster enjoyed having one Spridget guest, 5 or 6 of us would be even better. We decided the Bustercluster had to happen, and I was tasked with doing an inventory of parts on my next visit. My next trip 2 weeks later was for 13 days, and I got to see Buster several times, including tours of Miss Pam's childhood home, their first date spot (which was a ride in Busters Sprite), and so on. It was all about Pam. In my mind, I pictured what eventually took place on July 30th. Peter mentioned it to Billy Zoom, who lives maybe 3 miles from Buster, and he was in as well. We had 4. I told Buster about the Cluster idea, and he had me tell Pam. She had a stunned look on her face and tears in her eyes. That did it. I got home and started writing a draft to the list about the idea, and while writing it I got an email from Larry Daniels, telling me what a great guy Buster is and maybe we can arrange something out in California. Unbelievable. As Pete Townshend wrote in a song about mods, "ain't it funny how we all seem to look the same?" Both Billy and Larry couldn't join us because of their jobs, but you guys were there in spirit. So I announce to the list, and Buster has told you what the initial response was - staggering. I confess that I am the one who said "don't worry, only 5 or 6 people will end up being able to come." OK so I'm wrong...it's not the first time (note to Buster: upon reflection we didn't have ARP bolts and re-tapped crankshaft holes when we installed the flywheel on your car, so I shouldn't have talked Glen out of using loctite. It'll be fine for at least a week). The date starts getting closer, and Buster is starting to freak about the size, shape, logistics, etc. The phrase Clusterfuck is uttered a few times. No worries from me, though. From my winter project, I was hailed for pulling off a business move on schedule with happy people at the end. These are the magic rules many nimrods outside our hobby don't get: 1) Know what you want to do very clearly, and make sure everyone shares your vision. Not "work on the Sprite". For all of us, it was "Pam and Buster will ride in this completed car by Sunday". 2) Do all stages of the vision with integrity, respect, and good humor for those you are working with. Even if some of them have Triumphs too. 3) Take care of your people. Coffee, food, beer, and an occasional reflective cigarette help. 4) Pick the number of good people needed to fill your own gaps in knowledge and ability. If 8 are needed, make sure 10 are there, because you are stupider than you think. 5) Show people the vision in little pieces. A garage walk through by Miss Pam always seemed to get us motivated and reminded us why we were there. We certainly had the people and the means to follow the 5 easy steps above. And then some. And then some more. A final trip out to see Billy and Buster over dinner in May, and we're done planning. It's going to happen. I puckered at the paint shop issues, but Buster had that addressed immediately. July rolls around, and I meet Peter in my work costume at the airport, we avvafew in the bar, I start to be me again. Good flight, my brother from NY waiting for us, get to the hotel that was my winter home away from home to find a complimentary 2 bedroom suite up grade, and Frank unconscious. He wakes up finally, rolls over and calls Jay. Jay comes down, it is immediately like I am hanging with a lifelong friend. We force ourselves to go to bed (not with each other, to be clear), 24 hours awake with time change, and are all up 3 hours later anyway like kids on Christmas morning. We got the Buster cluster around 9. You now know what happened next. Despite the fact that X songs have been in my head all week (you all need to go when Billy's tour is near you; Peter is a convert going again next week in Milwaukee), there is a stanza in a Springsteen song that'd pop in to my head whenever we made progress: "It's been a long, long drought baby, But tonight there's rain pouring down on my roof. Looking for a little bit of God's mercy, I've seen living proof" The Bugeye drought is over at the Evans, the sky's been cleared by the rain, and it's a new morning. Thanks to all. Ron Soave Correct Height for Buster's Ceiling Every mile a memory List Of Attendees Paul Asgeirsson, Portland OR Spencer Baker, Hermosa Beach CA Jim Bauder, Scottsdale AZ Glen Byrns, Davis CA Peter Caldwell, Madison WI Frank Clarici, Toms River NJ Al Clemens, Boynton Beach FL Hal Faulkner, Fair Oaks CA Jay Fishbein, Wallingford CT Robert D. Gardner, El Cajon CA Robert Houston, El Paso TX Jim Johnson, Dodge City KS Mike MacLean, San Bernardino CA Larry Miller, Salinas CA Jerry Mock, Corona CA Vern Olson, Ontario OR Jon Paschke, Tehachapi CA Warren Pierce, Aromas CA Mike Rivers, Tustin CA Jim Rogers, San Juan Capistrano CA Ron Soave, Roscoe IL Bob Soave, LaGrangeville NY From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Mar 24 13:01:38 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:01:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asgeirsson Memorial blog Message-ID: <5843C939-CB51-4EE4-AF4E-EB02052D4F9A@gerardsgarage.com> I have started a page at the following link, I will be adding more content, but wanted to get something started for now. This will allow people who would like to tell anecdotes or post photos of their experiences with Paul can do so. Express yourself if you care to. I haven't used the Wordpress blog before, so let me know if there are difficulties and I'll do my best to rectify. Suggestions for categories or other things welcome. This will be what you make of it. I'm sure thins will get reshaped a bit as it goes forward. I will get a link on my site, but for now you can access it directly here: http://paulassgeirssonmemorial.wordpress.com/ Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Mar 24 19:19:54 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:19:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asgeirsson Memorial blog Message-ID: <373EDDD0-CBFB-4115-816F-5EAE72C6AEEF@gerardsgarage.com> ADDRESS CORRECTION http://paulasgeirssonmemorial.wordpress.com/ please disregard the one below I have started a page at the following link, I will be adding more content, but wanted to get something started for now. This will allow people who would like to tell anecdotes or post photos of their experiences with Paul can do so. Express yourself if you care to. I haven't used the Wordpress blog before, so let me know if there are difficulties and I'll do my best to rectify. Suggestions for categories or other things welcome. This will be what you make of it. I'm sure thins will get reshaped a bit as it goes forward. I will get a link on my site, but for now you can access it directly here: http://paulassgeirssonmemorial.wordpress.com/ Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ From grday at btinternet.com Sun Mar 27 05:35:36 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:35:36 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues References: Message-ID: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> I have been told that running low on fuel too often can harm the internal fuel pump. Maybe some comments on this as I am not sure if this is true or not (running low on fuel too often can cause an early demise of your internal fuel pump)? What is the difference between fuel at the top of the tank and that at the bottom? Unless you are running very funny fuel there is non. What is at the bottom of the tank is a layer of muck (that was polite). Gathered from the pumps you use to pump the fuel in, the sediments in the fuel and unwanted residue in your tank. If you are one of those who re-fill when the tank reaches a 1/4 full level you will not have a muck in fuel problem unless you get really low. If you are one of the empty the tank every time (you live near a fuel supply!) it is also unlikely you will have a serious problem as you shift all the muck every-time you run low on fuel. BUT you will find your in-line fuel filter NEEDS changing far more often. You have no in-line fuel filter? Tough. All the muck at the bottom of the tank will have to pass through your pump and the carb / injectors. This normally equates to wear but can also equate to blockage in the supply line or in any component. It can lead to a build of sludge and eventual blockage in a low lying part of the supply pipe etc. This holds true for any vehicle, not just a LBC or Chevy. I cannot think of a modern vehicle that isn't correctly filtered on the fuel supply side but always have a quiet smile when I see the only filter situate after the pump and next to the carb. The primary design calls for a filtered pickup pipe above the bottom of fuel tank that is normally washed clean by the movement of fuel in the tank (a large(ish) surface area of filter mesh). This is what most Spridget tanks have (repair and cleansing methods may alter this! ). The demise of your pump is potentially higher if you run low fuel levels but, if it does die, it may be showing there is also a deficit in the fuel filtering side. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > The things I am reading about the issues with late model Chevy / GMC > trucks > is such a bummer as I love Chevy's and wish I could consider a new one for > my next truck. > > In 2001 I bought (new) a Chevy truck based on the S10 frame . . factory > lowered by 2 inches. . . . (known as the Xtreme). I sold it at around > 110,000 miles and to tell the truth it held up very well through the > years. > When I sold it. . it was running just as strong and smooth as when I > bought > it. It had the 4.3 V6 which is said to be more reliable than the 4 > cylinder version. > > I did have to replace a fuel pump which might have been in part my fault > for allowing it to run low on gas as much as I did? > > I have been told that running low on fuel too often can harm the internal > fuel pump. Maybe some comments on this as I am not sure if this is true > or > not (running low on fuel too often can cause an early demise of your > internal fuel pump)? > > I was very happy with the reliability experienced with my V6 S10 type. I > wish I was hearing the same things about the larger GMC and Chevy trucks > that have been built in Toluca over the past few years. Toluca Mexico. . > right? Or somewhere down there. (The PT Cruiser's are made in Toluca > Mexico). > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 05:58:17 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:58:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> Guy, The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level gets too low, the motor runs too hot. David L From mgraziano at austin.rr.com Sun Mar 27 08:49:37 2011 From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (Michael Graziano) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:49:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Shirts? Anyone Anyone? Message-ID: <1a7801cbec96$940a1790$bc1e46b0$@rr.com> All, Driving season is upon us. One of you reminded me that I still have a bunch of the spridget shirts. If anyone's interested in getting one, please see the link below or email me. http://thehomeretreat.com/ProductPage.aspx?productid=1109 I'd love to sell some of the black ones. A warning, the spridgets logo is mostly in black, so it's hard to see on a black shirt. 25% off on black. Oh, and as a reminder, the shirts are being sold at cost. They're great material, and look really nice. They cost $22.50 total, including shipping. Small Med Large XL XXL 4XL White 2 0 4 9 2 Red 2 0 8 15 4 Yellow 2 0 0 1 1 Blue 1 0 0 3 2 Black 2 0 5 16 1 2 Tan 0 0 1 9 0 Kevin, a free shirt to you as incentive to get another rally going!! -Mike From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 09:03:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:03:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Bingo. I have a BMW motorcycle with an immersed fuel pump. The owners manual explains exactly that and I assume that would transport to any immersed fuel pump. In fact the low fuel light comes on before the fuel gauge shows the tank empty for that reason. Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:58 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Guy, > The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is > cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level > gets too low, the motor runs too hot. > David L From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Mar 27 09:43:09 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:43:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega engine was:Chevy Diesels Message-ID: <06b601cbec9e$0dc540d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> The problems with the Vega aluminum engine wasn't the aluminum cylinders. They had a high silicon content and were etched so the silicon (harder than iron) was riding on the rings. The problem with the early Vega was that GM cheaped out on everything else, including a marginal cooling system without a recovery bottle. The engines would run low on coolant, overheat, and blow the headgasket. Mercedes Benz and Porsche use a similar type sleeveless aluminum block to this day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_2300_engine -=Chris (with a 1975 Cosworth Vega) Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Kirk Hargreaves [khargreaves2 at gmail.com] >Sent: 3/26/2011 4:06:37 PM >To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chevy Diesels > > As bad or worse than the Vega all aluminum engine that had aluminum >cylinder walls. > > > >. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 10:24:18 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:24:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega engine was:Chevy Diesels In-Reply-To: <06b601cbec9e$0dc540d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <06b601cbec9e$0dc540d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Redeem your Vega with an LS-1 swap. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Mar 27 10:35:23 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Vega engine was:Chevy Diesels In-Reply-To: <817245228.2023454.1301247092002.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <792359072.2023487.1301247323533.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> In the 1950's Bert Greeves was making the Greeves motorcycle; which was mainly all Aluminium (note the spelling!). The barrel (and the most of the rest)were made from LM6 silicon-aluminium alloy with no liners. Owned one, raced it, never needed a rebore and never broke it He was also the designer and manufacturer of the Invacar -- the first one was made specifically for his invalid brother,, Just thought you'd might like to know -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris King" The problems with the Vega aluminum engine wasn't the aluminum cylinders. They had a high silicon content and were etched so the silicon (harder than iron) was riding on the rings. From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Mar 27 10:48:47 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC Message-ID: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I need to work on my cars... Whoever is praying for rain.. ... You can stop now!! Thank you -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From mgraziano at austin.rr.com Sun Mar 27 10:49:50 2011 From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (Michael Graziano) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:49:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] UPDATED LINK: Spridget Shirts? Anyone Anyone? Message-ID: <1a8601cbeca7$5efacf20$1cf06d60$@rr.com> No sooner did I send my earlier email than I broke the webpage for the shirts updating quantities. Here's an updated link. http://thehomeretreat.com/ProductPage.aspx?productid=2050 Hey, this shirt would be a great way to promote the spridgets list during the 50th anniversary of the Midget festivities at Elkhart Lake/Road America. -Mike From: Michael Graziano [mailto:mgraziano at austin.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:50 AM To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net' Subject: Spridget Shirts? Anyone Anyone? All, Driving season is upon us. One of you reminded me that I still have a bunch of the spridget shirts. If anyone's interested in getting one, please see the link below or email me. http://thehomeretreat.com/ProductPage.aspx?productid=1109 I'd love to sell some of the black ones. A warning, the spridgets logo is mostly in black, so it's hard to see on a black shirt. 25% off on black. Oh, and as a reminder, the shirts are being sold at cost. They're great material, and look really nice. They cost $22.50 total, including shipping. Small Med Large XL XXL 4XL White 2 0 4 9 2 Red 2 0 8 15 4 Yellow 2 0 0 1 1 Blue 1 0 0 3 2 Black 2 0 5 16 1 2 Tan 0 0 1 9 0 Kevin, a free shirt to you as incentive to get another rally going!! -Mike From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Mar 27 10:56:19 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:56:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> On 3/27/2011 1:48 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > I need to work on my cars... > Whoever is praying for rain.. > > ... You can stop now!! I wasn't praying, it's called a rain dance :) I'll stop now. But I would like to see the temperature rise another 10 degrees or so, The north wind can stop anytime it wants. It's been here since early December! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 10:56:25 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:56:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega engine was:Chevy Diesels In-Reply-To: <792359072.2023487.1301247323533.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <817245228.2023454.1301247092002.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <792359072.2023487.1301247323533.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: What's next? Aluminum cylinders and cast iron pistons? From kk7ss at frontier.com Sun Mar 27 11:04:33 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Vega engine was:Chevy Diesels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1252320001.2023805.1301249073191.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> IIRC... the early Greeves had the Alloy barrel with Aluminum pistons; the top two rings were steel and the oil scraper ring was Iron. I haven't opened my Honda Civic motor but I wonder if it's the same set-up?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" What's next? Aluminum cylinders and cast iron pistons? From nases at verizon.net Sun Mar 27 11:32:23 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:32:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> Message-ID: <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> Here in PA we need 1 more good rain to wash the salt off the roads. I vote for another 10 degrees too. Jim, get on that would you;) Phil Nase Quakertown, PA home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > On 3/27/2011 1:48 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: >> I need to work on my cars... >> Whoever is praying for rain.. >> >> ... You can stop now!! > I wasn't praying, it's called a rain dance :) > I'll stop now. But I would like to see the temperature rise another 10 degrees or so, > The north wind can stop anytime it wants. It's been here since early December! > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 11:51:13 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:51:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> Message-ID: Our nice weather is gone now too, it's only 55* today. Quite a change from the 80*+ we had Thursday and Friday... On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Phil Nase wrote: > Here in PA we need 1 more good rain to wash the salt off the roads. I vote > for > another 10 degrees too. > > Jim, get on that would you;) > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > On 3/27/2011 1:48 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > >> I need to work on my cars... > >> Whoever is praying for rain.. > >> > >> ... You can stop now!! > > I wasn't praying, it's called a rain dance :) > > I'll stop now. But I would like to see the temperature rise another 10 > degrees or so, > > The north wind can stop anytime it wants. It's been here since early > December! > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Mar 27 12:38:49 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale Message-ID: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> If I only had the money: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRINZEL-ALLOY-COUPE-SEBRING-SPRITE-BMC-/ 260755980584?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb6448128 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 12:55:55 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> Message-ID: Me?? I have tons to do on my car in an unheated garage and highs won't be out of the 40s here until Thursday!! Right now it is 31 with freezing drizzle. If I still had any influence at all I'd use it around here! Youse guys are on your own!! Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Phil Nase wrote: > Here in PA we need 1 more good rain to wash the salt off the roads. I vote > for > another 10 degrees too. > > Jim, get on that would you;) > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > On Mar 27, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > On 3/27/2011 1:48 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > >> I need to work on my cars... > >> Whoever is praying for rain.. > >> > >> ... You can stop now!! > > I wasn't praying, it's called a rain dance :) > > I'll stop now. But I would like to see the temperature rise another 10 > degrees or so, > > The north wind can stop anytime it wants. It's been here since early > December! > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Mar 27 13:15:12 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <277747.15694.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Try this link: http://tinyurl.com/6z27wsv Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Sun, 3/27/11, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 3:38 PM If I only had the money: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRINZEL-ALLOY-COUPE-SEBRING-SPRITE-BMC-/ 260755980584?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb6448128 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From jfishbein at snet.net Sun Mar 27 13:49:10 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:49:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <277747.15694.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <277747.15694.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Beautiful car. This is Jonathan Whitehouse-Bird's stunning restoration. Jay -An iPhone communication- On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Try this link: http://tinyurl.com/6z27wsv > > Rick From grday at btinternet.com Sun Mar 27 14:16:06 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:16:06 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> I really don't think I would want one of those vehicles !! Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > Guy, > The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is > cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level > gets too low, the motor runs too hot. > David L From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 14:51:47 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:51:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Shirts? Anyone Anyone? Message-ID: I'm in for a black one in XXL. Thanks! Rick (black is still slimming right?) Bastedo From: "Michael Graziano" To: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:49:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Shirts? Anyone Anyone? All, Driving season is upon us. One of you reminded me that I still have a bunch of the spridget shirts. If anyone's interested in getting one, please see the link below or email me. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Mar 27 15:20:40 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:20:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <277747.15694.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Exactly how is a Unibody car converted into a full alloy-bodied coupe? From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Mar 27 15:26:52 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:26:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NON LBC.. 1930's flat op Monitor refrigerator charging and restoration info Message-ID: <003c01cbecce$127337b0$3759a710$@net> Tried googling the subject and am not coming up with much so looking to see if anyone can come up with better links than I have found. Ran across two of them today for a pittance so I picked them up. One was working when unplugged 30 years ago and has been stored away since. The other wasn't working when stored. One is supposedly from the 1920's and the other is from the 30's. Would like to figure out how to check out the cooling system before plugging it in. Leo From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Mar 27 15:30:20 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:30:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NON LBC.. 1930's flat op Monitor refrigerator charging and restoration info Message-ID: <004401cbecce$8ebf4930$ac3ddb90$@net> Forgot to add the link of what one of them looks like http://tinyurl.com/4jq7zxz Leo From: Leo [mailto:60bugeye at cebridge.net] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:27 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: NON LBC.. 1930's flat op Monitor refrigerator charging and restoration info Tried googling the subject and am not coming up with much so looking to see if anyone can come up with better links than I have found. Ran across two of them today for a pittance so I picked them up. One was working when unplugged 30 years ago and has been stored away since. The other wasn't working when stored. One is supposedly from the 1920's and the other is from the 30's. Would like to figure out how to check out the cooling system before plugging it in. Leo From lmacy at mac.com Sun Mar 27 15:43:00 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:43:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <277747.15694.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <277747.15694.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: First pic, second row, Is that Sprinzel on the grass chasing CHUCK???? Larry On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Try this link: http://tinyurl.com/6z27wsv > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > > --- On Sun, 3/27/11, HealeyRick wrote: > > From: HealeyRick > Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 3:38 PM > > If I only had the money: > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRINZEL-ALLOY-COUPE-SEBRING-SPRITE-BMC-/ > 260755980584?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb6448128 > > Rick > > > Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for windows or gates? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 15:50:06 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:50:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: References: <277747.15694.qm@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Veerrrry carefully.... ;-) On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Exactly how is a Unibody car converted into a full alloy-bodied coupe? > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Mar 27 15:52:42 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:52:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E334F131CA24B4D84E45D2D7AAACE8D@blackbox2> There is one thing I was wondering about on EAO410. There is one picture of the engine where you can see a small bracket at the union of the transmission to the engine. There seems to be some sort of strut or something connected to that bracket. What is it? From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Mar 27 16:43:19 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <5E334F131CA24B4D84E45D2D7AAACE8D@blackbox2> Message-ID: <707313.6186.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Engine Brace. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 10:52 PM There is one thing I was wondering about on EAO410. There is one picture of the engine where you can see a small bracket at the union of the transmission to the engine. There seems to be some sort of strut or something connected to that bracket. What is it? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From shop at justbrits.com Sun Mar 27 17:01:20 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:01:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D8FCFD0.8010007@justbrits.com> and for all the nay sayers............ << If I only had the money: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRINZEL-ALLOY-COUPE-SEBRING-SPRITE-BMC-/ 260755980584?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb6448128 Rick >> check out what sort of wheels it was/is [?] raced on/with !!! From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun Mar 27 18:11:36 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:11:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: References: <1849284320.2003361.1301076384520.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D8FE048.8030607@tx.rr.com> When I've seen surging it was due to too much ignition advance. Backfiring is definitely too much ignition advance. Well it's pretty hard for a running car to develop too much ignition advance. If the distributor is loose it will usually retard itself rather than advancing itself. But, if something happens to the distributor cap or rotor, it could cause the the same result. > surging, badly!! > > and backfiring visibly in the dark. At least the Statie prolly thought so as we drove down I-195 at 40 miles an hour in the dark. From lmacy at mac.com Sun Mar 27 18:49:47 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:49:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <4D8FE048.8030607@tx.rr.com> References: <1849284320.2003361.1301076384520.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D8FE048.8030607@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4A78BDD0-60CB-48F7-9EB9-316493EAACC1@mac.com> It acts just as if you were turning the key off and on. YUa know, no power, ig on and backfire. So we are looking at the connector between the ignition switch and the wiring harness. Larry On Mar 27, 2011, at 9:11 PM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > When I've seen surging it was due to too much ignition advance. > > Backfiring is definitely too much ignition advance. > > Well it's pretty hard for a running car to develop too much ignition advance. If the distributor is loose it will usually retard itself rather than advancing itself. But, if something happens to the distributor cap or rotor, it could cause the the same result. > > > >> surging, badly!! >> >> and backfiring visibly in the dark. At least the Statie prolly thought so as we drove down I-195 at 40 miles an hour in the dark. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Mar 27 18:56:31 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:56:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> Cheby trucks have had this problem for years. I've had to put three in my '04 Suburban with less than 80k miles. I know several folks who have had this problem. Dealer fix is over $ 600. Lester On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > I really don't think I would want one of those vehicles !! > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > To: "Guy R Day" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > > >> Guy, >> The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is >> cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level >> gets too low, the motor runs too hot. >> David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 18:57:35 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:57:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Unfortunately I believe (but could be wrong) that a majority of current model vehicles have gone to integrating the fuel pump and fuel level sending unit into one module that is in the tank. And I've heard the same as David - don't regularly let your fuel drop below 1/4 tank as the pump then is more likely to fail prematurely due to reduced cooling. I got to replace one in my son's '98 S10 just a couple of weeks ago. No way to replace just the ailing fuel pump and the entire module was $270 (ouch!). BTW, the easiest way to do that on a truck is to remove the truck bed instead of trying to drop the tank! On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > I really don't think I would want one of those vehicles !! > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > To: "Guy R Day" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > > >> Guy, >> The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is >> cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level >> gets too low, the motor runs too hot. >> David L > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tr3.4.me at gmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 19:01:07 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:01:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <4D8FCFD0.8010007@justbrits.com> References: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4D8FCFD0.8010007@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1794761060864343893@unknownmsgid> > check out what sort of wheels it was/is [?] raced on/with !!! Of course, as John Sprinzel points out in "Spritely Years", this was the only way to fit the disk brakes they wanted to run. David L From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 19:21:40 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:21:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: I have taken those modules apart and replaced just the pump. It is possible. When you tear into the modules the pumps almost all mysteriously look the same. You could probably make a Walbro fit in just about any situation, so long as you match the pump output and pressure. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 22:05:19 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:05:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> <50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> Message-ID: Weird. We put over 100K on a 2000 Silverado - never a hiccup. Just turned another 100K on a 2005 Silverado - only problem has been a bad instrument cluster which the dealer replaced no charge. They have both been incredibly good trucks as far as we can see.... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Lester wrote: > Cheby trucks have had this problem for years. I've had to put three in my > '04 > Suburban with less than 80k miles. I know several folks who have had this > problem. Dealer fix is over $ 600. > > Lester > > > On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > > > I really don't think I would want one of those vehicles !! > > > > Guy R Day > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > > To: "Guy R Day" > > Cc: "Spridgets" > > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > > > > > >> Guy, > >> The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is > >> cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level > >> gets too low, the motor runs too hot. > >> David L > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From lists at dinospider.com Sun Mar 27 23:06:17 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:06:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> <50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D902559.1080002@dinospider.com> You guys put way too many miles on your cars, I bought my 2000 Sierra in late 1999 and it just went over 60,000 a few months ago. 100,000 on a truck in less than 20 years, your life is not as good as mine, now 100,000 on a motorcycle, oh yeah. I did go through a front-end on the truck at around 32,000 miles, way out of warranty as it was about 6 years old but the dealer did it at half cost for "good will", way too many worn parts on the front-end on that little mileage, still good now however. mike On 3/27/2011 10:05 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Weird. We put over 100K on a 2000 Silverado - never a hiccup. Just turned > another 100K on a 2005 Silverado - only problem has been a bad instrument > cluster > which the dealer replaced no charge. They have both been incredibly good > trucks as far as we can see.... > > Cheers!! > Jim From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 23:16:51 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:16:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <4D902559.1080002@dinospider.com> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> <50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> <4D902559.1080002@dinospider.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Mike Rambour wrote: You guys put way too many miles on your cars, I bought my 2000 Sierra in late 1999 and it just went over 60,000 a few months ago. 100,000 on a truck in less than 20 years, your life is not as good as mine, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- My 2000 Blazer is close to turning over 32K. No real problems other than getting hit by lightning last year! What are you doing just joy-riding all the time Mike? -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From chris_west at juno.com Mon Mar 28 05:58:33 2011 From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:58:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC hassles and issues Message-ID: <20110328.055919.946.301956@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> David L wrote: The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level gets too low, the motor runs too hot. ------------------------------------------------------- This is the primary issue with running the tank down to empty. The inlet strainer of the pump assembly will filter out the "large bits" and the in line filter (when present) will get the rest, after the potential damage to the pump internals has occurred. The real issue, as David mentions, is cooling the pump. In addition, many newer (2005 and up) vehicles have only a "self cleaning" fuel filter INTERNAL to the tank, and NO easily serviceable external filter. Check with your FLAPS or your dealer to see if that is the case with your vehicles. If it is, I would NEVER routinely run with less than a 1/4 full tank. Just my 2cents worth, but I do sell these parts and know the common failure modes. Chris - AN5L35xxx ____________________________________________________________ SHOCKING True Story Millionaire Helps Everyday People Get Paid - You Won't Believe How! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d908661e52833f053bst02vuc From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Mar 28 06:31:27 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:31:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b><-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid><8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b><50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> Same deal with my Silverado pickup and Suburban. Well over 100k and never an issue. Some guys on this list break anvils.... :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets Group" Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > Weird. We put over 100K on a 2000 Silverado - never a hiccup. Just > turned > another 100K on a 2005 Silverado - only problem has been a bad instrument > cluster > which the dealer replaced no charge. They have both been incredibly good > trucks as far as we can see.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Lester wrote: > >> Cheby trucks have had this problem for years. I've had to put three in >> my >> '04 >> Suburban with less than 80k miles. I know several folks who have had >> this >> problem. Dealer fix is over $ 600. >> >> Lester >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Guy R Day wrote: >> >> > I really don't think I would want one of those vehicles !! >> > >> > Guy R Day >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> >> > To: "Guy R Day" >> > Cc: "Spridgets" >> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:58 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues >> > >> > >> >> Guy, >> >> The explanation that I have been given is that the pump motor is >> >> cooled by being immersed in and splashed by fuel. When the fuel level >> >> gets too low, the motor runs too hot. >> >> David L >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From davriker at nwi.net Mon Mar 28 07:54:29 2011 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:54:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b><-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid><8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b><50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> Message-ID: <1BB643AB605C4295AF35C70540999C81@RikerPC> I stopped defending Chevrolet's on the list the last time this came up for the same reason, however, I find myself again, unable to keep myself from commenting. Since I am a Chevrolet Sales manager, I get to see the service lane right outside my window every morning. I get to see trade-ins driven from the entire spectrum of user styles and personalities. Despite Frank and Billy's opinions and usage habits, ALL modern vehicles are incredibly reliable, and adjusted for inflation, ALL repairs needed by modern vehicles probably cost lest both in inflation adjusted dollars AND relative to the cost of replacing the vehicle than the same repair in the 1970's. Remember when every gas station on three corners of every major intersection had a 2 bay service garage? Remember when there was several transmission repair facilities, to choose from, several radiator shops, 5 or six independent auto parts stores in every town? Could it possibly be that it was because cars used to break down quite regularly, and the reason those shops are now all out of business is that they don't break down like that any more? What is normal to see now are Chevrolet, Ford, and Dodge trucks being traded in with significant miles, hard miles even, as I live in an agricultural area, that still run and drive very well, and still are worth what I would consider stupid money. Check it out for your self. Go to KBB.com and book out a 140,000 mile 2006 Silverado 2500 Crew Cab with a Diesel engine. $16,000 trade in value. That's real money. For a truck I would consider worn out, done, and ready for the crusher. You are right, some guys on this list break anvils! PS, the fuel pump thing is very correct. If the fuel tank is never allowed to run below 1/4 tank, the fuel pumps will regularly out last the vehicle. Run the tank empty, and we've accidentally burnt them up in new cars idling on the lot :O -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 6:31 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues Same deal with my Silverado pickup and Suburban. Well over 100k and never an issue. Some guys on this list break anvils.... :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets Group" Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > Weird. We put over 100K on a 2000 Silverado - never a hiccup. Just > turned > another 100K on a 2005 Silverado - only problem has been a bad instrument > cluster > which the dealer replaced no charge. They have both been incredibly good > trucks as far as we can see.... > > Cheers!! > Jim Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3534 - Release Date: 03/27/11 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Mar 28 09:13:55 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:13:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget In-Reply-To: <4D8FE048.8030607@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: > Backfiring is definitely too much ignition advance. Actually not. Backfiring while running is a classic sign of a fuel supply problem like a clogged fuel filter because the mixture becomes too lean. Backfiring while trying to start the engine is usually too much advance. In this case, if it's bucking and backfiring while driving, it's probably starving for fuel. BZ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 09:17:06 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. Message-ID: <31559.91907.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I was a big fan of C&D in the 60s and 70s. Brock Yates, Warren Weith and of course, David. E. Davis, Jr. seemed more edgy than the more staid Road & Track. Mr Davis passed yesterday from cancer: http://tinyurl.com/5voca37 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Mar 28 09:22:22 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:22:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <4D902559.1080002@dinospider.com> Message-ID: > too many miles on your cars You aren't touring enough. Our tour average is around 13,000 miles per week on the rental trucks and vans. We learned the hard way to never rent a Chevy, because they just won't make it through a tour without stranding us. Fords and Sprinters with over 100,000 on them are no hassle, but a Chevy with 20,000 miles on it is ready to blow something. BZ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Mar 28 09:25:31 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:25:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. In-Reply-To: <31559.91907.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <31559.91907.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EB76DB074D646FB9ECA71BF22834C5A@spider> Yes, and yes. Sorry to hear of his passing. ...bill in corvallis =============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:17 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. I was a big fan of C&D in the 60s and 70s. Brock Yates, Warren Weith and of course, David. E. Davis, Jr. seemed more edgy than the more staid Road & Track. Mr. Davis passed yesterday from cancer: http://tinyurl.com/5voca37 Rick From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Mar 28 09:31:26 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:31:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Fwd=3A_Lecci=F3n_de_arranque_en_pista!?= =?iso-8859-1?q?__Lessons_on_the_green_flag_start=2E?= Message-ID: <4D90B7DE.7080507@wi.net> Forgive me if you've seen this but we've been gone and I got this from our friend in Mexico while away. Not a bad bit of driving....kinda like that White Trash guy! Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Leccisn de arranque en pista! Lessons on the green flag start. Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:33:57 -0600 From: David Moulton To: In case there were any questions.... This is how it is done. */Este piloto de Lotus nos da una leccisn de csmo arrancar y rebasar en la primera vuelta a todos los rivales:/* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrPtUYeng0U&feature=player_embedded From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Mar 28 09:43:41 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <1BB643AB605C4295AF35C70540999C81@RikerPC> Message-ID: <239642.42434.qm@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You used to see the two bay garage at gas stations because cars were easier to work on then. You did not need flow charts and computers to diagnose a problem. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 2000 F150 that has only needed a new alternator and A/C compressor since new. --- On Mon, 3/28/11, David Riker wrote: From: David Riker Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues To: "Rick Fisk" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 2:54 PM I stopped defending Chevrolet's on the list the last time this came up for the same reason, however, I find myself again, unable to keep myself from commenting. Since I am a Chevrolet Sales manager, I get to see the service lane right outside my window every morning. I get to see trade-ins driven from the entire spectrum of user styles and personalities. Despite Frank and Billy's opinions and usage habits, ALL modern vehicles are incredibly reliable, and adjusted for inflation, ALL repairs needed by modern vehicles probably cost lest both in inflation adjusted dollars AND relative to the cost of replacing the vehicle than the same repair in the 1970's. Remember when every gas station on three corners of every major intersection had a 2 bay service garage? Remember when there was several transmission repair facilities, to choose from, several radiator shops, 5 or six independent auto parts stores in every town? Could it possibly be that it was because cars used to break down quite regularly, and the reason those shops are now all out of business is that they don't break down like that any more? What is normal to see now are Chevrolet, Ford, and Dodge trucks being traded in with significant miles, hard miles even, as I live in an agricultural area, that still run and drive very well, and still are worth what I would consider stupid money. Check it out for your self. Go to KBB.com and book out a 140,000 mile 2006 Silverado 2500 Crew Cab with a Diesel engine. $16,000 trade in value. That's real money. For a truck I would consider worn out, done, and ready for the crusher. You are right, some guys on this list break anvils! PS, the fuel pump thing is very correct. If the fuel tank is never allowed to run below 1/4 tank, the fuel pumps will regularly out last the vehicle. Run the tank empty, and we've accidentally burnt them up in new cars idling on the lot :O -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 6:31 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues Same deal with my Silverado pickup and Suburban. Well over 100k and never an issue. Some guys on this list break anvils.... :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets Group" Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > Weird. We put over 100K on a 2000 Silverado - never a hiccup. Just turned > another 100K on a 2005 Silverado - only problem has been a bad instrument > cluster > which the dealer replaced no charge. They have both been incredibly good > trucks as far as we can see.... > > Cheers!! > Jim Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3534 - Release Date: 03/27/11 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Mar 28 09:43:45 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <57893742.1308300.1301330548782.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <851306506.1308333.1301330625135.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Our fleet of 2009 Chevy vans presently have between 80 - 90,000 miles each. Since new, each has been a charter member of the headlight of the month club. One melted the wiring behind the headlights each time the light burned out, and did the same twice to the interior lights, actually catching the interior on fire. After it required its fifth set of brakes in 30,000 miles, we convinced the dealer to take it back or I would write a really juicy column for the local paper. All the vans have a chronic problem with the fuel system, causing the fuel hose to shut of after it has put in about 15 cents of gas. The shop manager insisted it was the fuel pump when the first one went in, and installed a new fuel pump, which did nothing to alleviate the problem. Naturally, he wanted to install a second fuel pump, then a third. Explaining that we had no problem getting fuel out of the tank, only in to it, did nothing to convince him otherwise until an appropriate temper tantrum was thrown at the time all his customers were dropping off their vehicles for the day. This technique was one that I learned in "Women vs Shop Managers 101". Fuel gauges in all vans have been replaced at least once. All dash warning lights on each van are permanently on, pretty much negating their value as warning lights. One van required a complete new engine at 25,000 miles because, according to the shop manager, who still holds his job, it ran through a 3" deep puddle and splashed water on the engine. Perhaps we inadvertently wound up with the Dubai model? In all fairness, the all wheel drive and stabilitrak are wonderful - when they are working. I have yet to get one stuck, even when driving to sidings that are miles from the nearest road. We are now authorized to take them to a real shop for anything other than electrical problems, which has helped tremendously, but I still would not want to own one. Perhaps on the newer models the electricals have been corrected, but I am inclined to doubt it. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "CosmicMag1380" To: "Mike Rambour" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:16:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Mike Rambour wrote: You guys put way too many miles on your cars, I bought my 2000 Sierra in late 1999 and it just went over 60,000 a few months ago. 100,000 on a truck in less than 20 years, your life is not as good as mine, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 09:45:09 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. In-Reply-To: <4EB76DB074D646FB9ECA71BF22834C5A@spider> References: <31559.91907.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EB76DB074D646FB9ECA71BF22834C5A@spider> Message-ID: <802E6DE6-7407-427C-B51B-F6A0B9CCA23C@comcast.net> Yup, he was a nice guy, good stories, met him at a SAAB Owner's convention, told us how he ended up with his eye like that.. RIP Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:25 AM, wrote: > Yes, and yes. Sorry to hear of his passing. ...bill in corvallis > > =============================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:17 AM > To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. > > I was a big fan of C&D in the 60s and 70s. Brock Yates, Warren > Weith and of > course, David. E. Davis, Jr. seemed more edgy than the more staid > Road & > Track. > > Mr. Davis passed yesterday from cancer: http://tinyurl.com/5voca37 > > Rick > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com Mon Mar 28 09:46:50 2011 From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:46:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Kristi=27s_Midget?= Message-ID: Maybe a cracked fuel line between the tank and pump. BTDT. Sent from my HTC EVO 4G ----- Reply message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" Date: Mon, Mar 28, 2011 12:13 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Kristi's Midget To: "BJNoSHOV8" , > Backfiring is definitely too much ignition advance. Actually not. Backfiring while running is a classic sign of a fuel supply problem like a clogged fuel filter because the mixture becomes too lean. Backfiring while trying to start the engine is usually too much advance. In this case, if it's bucking and backfiring while driving, it's probably starving for fuel. BZ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 28 09:45:57 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons on the green flag start. In-Reply-To: <4D90B7DE.7080507@wi.net> Message-ID: <162000143.2036594.1301330757323.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Nice 'dicing'! Brought back memories of watching Moss and Hawthorne battling it out at Silverstone and other places.. Thanks :) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From kk7ss at frontier.com Mon Mar 28 09:52:59 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <239642.42434.qm@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <132400654.2036762.1301331179096.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I was taught that with (Ladies, please excuse the expression)"Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow" the fault was either fuel, ignition or compression. I take my Civic to the dealer... it scares the bejabbers out of me just lifting the hood!! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" You used to see the two bay garage at gas stations because cars were easier to work on then. You did not need flow charts and computers to diagnose a problem. From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 09:53:52 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:53:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons on the green flag start. In-Reply-To: <162000143.2036594.1301330757323.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <4D90B7DE.7080507@wi.net> <162000143.2036594.1301330757323.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > Nice 'dicing'! Apparently the sheetmetal on the front of his Lotus is a lot more wedge-shaped than I recall ;-) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 09:56:31 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:56:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons on the green flag start. In-Reply-To: <162000143.2036594.1301330757323.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <162000143.2036594.1301330757323.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8184023A-939E-4059-AA73-85C58BB45F24@comcast.net> Another reason to stick to Rally... ya wanna pass ya just make a new road... Wow! Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > Nice 'dicing'! > > Brought back memories of watching Moss and Hawthorne battling it out > at Silverstone and other places.. > > Thanks :) > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 10:08:54 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:08:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <1BB643AB605C4295AF35C70540999C81@RikerPC> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b><-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid><8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b><50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> <1BB643AB605C4295AF35C70540999C81@RikerPC> Message-ID: See I have my nice SAAB 9000, same fundamental setup, fuel pump/sender in a nice canister in the fuel tank. I regularly run the thing on fumes with no fuel pump in 150 k miles. To think that a modern vehicle can trash a fuel pump by idling until it runs out of gas is .. is... unthinkable. Something is rotten in Denmark.. .Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:54 AM, David Riker wrote: > > snip > > PS, the fuel pump thing is very correct. If the fuel tank is never > allowed to run below 1/4 tank, the fuel pumps will regularly out > last the vehicle. Run the tank empty, and we've accidentally burnt > them up in new cars idling on the lot :O From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 10:22:38 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:22:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> <50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> <1BB643AB605C4295AF35C70540999C81@RikerPC> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Lester wrote: > See I have my nice SAAB 9000, same fundamental setup, fuel pump/sender > in a nice canister in the fuel tank. I regularly run the thing on > fumes with no fuel pump in 150 k miles. To think that a modern > vehicle can trash a fuel pump by idling until it runs out of gas is .. > is... unthinkable. Something is rotten in Denmark.. What kind of pressure does the fuel injection of the SAAB run? Was it built out of "low-bid" parts? Not disagreeing with you at all! David L From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 10:25:32 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:25:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b> <-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid> <8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b> <50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> <1BB643AB605C4295AF35C70540999C81@RikerPC> Message-ID: I honestly don't know the pressure, but it's enough to power the Bosch fuel injectors, but it 's the same Walbro pump that you can find in almost everything. All cars are built on low bid parts, it's just a matter of what the spec that they bid to is.. Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 12:22 PM, David Lieb wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Lester > wrote: >> See I have my nice SAAB 9000, same fundamental setup, fuel pump/ >> sender >> in a nice canister in the fuel tank. I regularly run the thing on >> fumes with no fuel pump in 150 k miles. To think that a modern >> vehicle can trash a fuel pump by idling until it runs out of gas >> is .. >> is... unthinkable. Something is rotten in Denmark.. > > What kind of pressure does the fuel injection of the SAAB run? Was it > built out of "low-bid" parts? Not disagreeing with you at all! > David L From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Mar 28 11:05:33 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:05:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Something is rotten in Denmark. No, Saabs are Swedish. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 11:31:28 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:31:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dans, Swedes, they all look the same to me.... On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Something is rotten in Denmark. > No, Saabs are Swedish. From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 11:40:00 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:40:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <835467312598280263@unknownmsgid> But the SAABS are the ones that DON'T stink... David L On Mar 28, 2011, at 13:31, Jim Johnson wrote: > Dans, Swedes, they all look the same to me.... > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > >>> Something is rotten in Denmark. >> No, Saabs are Swedish. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget at gmail.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Mon Mar 28 11:54:56 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:54:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> I think it's pretty silly too, but the situation he described is probably worst case- new cars typically don't come with very much fuel in them, and at idle they aren't going to use much fuel, but the fuel pump has to run the whole time that the car is idling because it not only is moving fuel from the tank to the engine, the fuel pump is the component that maintains high pressure for the injectors to work. So it is sitting there having to maintain pressure for a long period of time, with no fuel around it, and it isn't actually pumping much fuel either. That's not justification for it to fail though, since idling while almost empty is certainly a legitimate use of the vehicle. > See I have my nice SAAB 9000, same fundamental setup, fuel pump/sender > in a nice canister in the fuel tank. I regularly run the thing on > fumes with no fuel pump in 150 k miles. To think that a modern > vehicle can trash a fuel pump by idling until it runs out of gas is .. > is... unthinkable. Something is rotten in Denmark.. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 12:12:20 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:12:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> References: <0DB0D5F36364450AA493747B1553C5FA@user8634b3d69b><-1412601233705227809@unknownmsgid><8A4488603AE94837906D827FC4B81216@user8634b3d69b><50815E53-F222-47D9-A67D-FDA399C0F447@comcast.net> <0D5DAE7700EA47CD9824A7D2883D46BB@RickPC> Message-ID: <4D90DD94.2060702@comcast.net> On 3/28/2011 9:31 AM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Some guys on this list break anvils.... :-) > Only the ones made in china ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Mar 28 12:11:23 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:11:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> References: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> Message-ID: <2EA6FFC84D4E416D8BF0215F58AAD23D@RickPC> Something for you guys that ride fuel injected motorcycles to think about - the fuel pump on most bikes is located in the tank at the bottom rear - right between your legs. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net net" Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues >I think it's pretty silly too, but the situation he described is probably >worst case- From shop at justbrits.com Mon Mar 28 12:21:57 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:21:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <2EA6FFC84D4E416D8BF0215F58AAD23D@RickPC> References: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> <2EA6FFC84D4E416D8BF0215F58AAD23D@RickPC> Message-ID: <4D90DFD5.8050107@justbrits.com> << ...the fuel pump on most bikes is located in the tank at the bottom rear - right between your legs. >> So that would mean that the 'rider' is fine UNLESS he has a REALLY, REALLY 'hot' "biker chick" behind him, Rick ???? Enquiring minds NEED to know !!!!!!!!!! LAD From shop at justbrits.com Mon Mar 28 12:29:34 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:29:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> References: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> Message-ID: <4D90E19E.4020206@justbrits.com> << ...since idling while almost empty is certainly a legitimate use of the vehicle. >> So the Police Officer "on the scene" of an event that requires his cruiser to be used to block a street [with Emergency Lights displayed] or the Fire Chief "on the scene" of an event that requires his vehicle to be used to block a street [with Emergency Lights displayed] or an Ambulance "on the scene" of an event that requires that said Ambulance to just be 'parked' [with Emergency Lights displayed] whilst retrieving patient[s]............ .....................is SCREWED ?!?!? Tacky !!! From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 12:47:21 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:47:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <4D90E19E.4020206@justbrits.com> References: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> <4D90E19E.4020206@justbrits.com> Message-ID: That's why I always filled up at the beginning of my shift! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << ...since idling while almost empty is certainly a legitimate use > of the vehicle. >> > > So the Police Officer "on the scene" of an event that requires his > cruiser to be used to block a street [with Emergency Lights displayed] > or the Fire Chief "on the scene" of an event that requires his > vehicle to be used to block a street [with Emergency Lights displayed] > or an Ambulance "on the scene" of an event that requires that said > Ambulance to just be 'parked' [with Emergency Lights displayed] > whilst retrieving patient[s]............ > > .....................is SCREWED ?!?!? > > Tacky !!! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 12:50:28 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:50:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <2EA6FFC84D4E416D8BF0215F58AAD23D@RickPC> References: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> <2EA6FFC84D4E416D8BF0215F58AAD23D@RickPC> Message-ID: Rick, All of the BMW K series bikes are fuel injected with the pump in the tank. Moreover, they are water cooled with the radiator air flow coming back into the tank area. The fuel tanks get so hot on these bikes that when running long distances in the summer, you don't even want to touch the tank with your bare hand. I guarantee all owners of these bikes are well aware of this situation. There are even aftermarket vent systems available to help cool things down a bit but they are still miserable to ride distances in 100F plus weather. On the other hand, this is a great bike to ride in the winter or in cool climates... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Something for you guys that ride fuel injected motorcycles to think about - > the fuel pump on most bikes is located in the tank at the bottom rear - > right between your legs. :-) > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > Cc: "spridgets_autox.team.net net" > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > > > > I think it's pretty silly too, but the situation he described is probably >> worst case- >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From chris_west at juno.com Mon Mar 28 13:15:44 2011 From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:15:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis Message-ID: <20110328.131646.989.969586@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> I had the privilege to meet David back in the '70s. The local sports car club (now defunct) invited him to our Christmas party and he gracefully accepted. He was witty and charming, bawdy and personable, even funnier and more interesting in person as he was on the printed page. And yes, Lester, the stories he could tell.... the night ended much too soon and I never will forget him. Godspeed, David. I'm sure your first words to St. Peter will be "Wow, what a ride!" Chris - AN5L35xxx ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From chris_west at juno.com Mon Mar 28 13:39:47 2011 From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:39:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor Wobble Message-ID: <20110328.134000.989.969692@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com> Geoff wrote: Timing is stable with timing light ~ @ 12 BTDC, idles good, advance works. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff, what is wobbling? If it is the distributor body itself I can see how the timing is stable, because it could wobble back and forth without turning. If I recall correctly, the distributor clamp plate bolts to an adapter that is bolted to the block. Check both the 2 bolts at the clamp plate and the 2 (I think) at the adapter to block mounting. If it is the distributor shaft that is wobbling, it will need to be rebushed or replaced. The timing may appear stable at the crank pulley, but if you connect an accurate dwell meter you will see lots of variation, indicating either a worn distributor cam or a wobbling shaft. AFAIK the only washers involved are the thrust washers for the distributor shaft, used by the factory to adjust the end float of the shaft during assembly. Chris - AN5L35xxx ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d90f22ba32df40a131st02vuc From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 14:08:46 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dealer Fuel Pump Fix Message-ID: My pump died on the way to the dump with a full load in the bed of dump stuff. Fortunately at the time, I had money . .I had just taken in a windfall of 106k. So I had the truck towed to the dealer (which is something I would not typically do. . knowing that I am going to take a bath). As a matter of fact I have never taken a vehicle to the dealer before for anything. . but it seemed convenient to just get it done. This is the soaking that I got (not to make a pun): $600.0 for the pump and around $300.00 for labor. I paid them just under a grand to have it repaired. The Chevy dealer, where I bought the truck, was dead set that the fuel pumps cost this much. I had the money . . it was done quickly and done correctly. . and off I went back to the city dump to dump my load. I filed this under, "anything convenient, you are going to pay more." But I had no idea as to how much "more" I was going to get soaked for. That will be the last time no matter how much I have in the bank. Kirk From chris_west at juno.com Mon Mar 28 14:08:18 2011 From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west at juno.com) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:08:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. Message-ID: <20110328.140912.946.304144@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Why are we debating about whether these problems "should" exist. Unless you are involved in the design of the vehicle, you need to accept that they are real problems in the field and what you can do to mitigate their effects. Instead of asking "Why should I keep at least a 1/4 tank of fuel?" just do it and know that you are lengthening the life of your pump. Don't bitch to the list that the engineers screwed up. They know it! Newer Impalas have a "fuel module access plate" in the trunk floor, so you don't need to drop the tank. Do you think this modification was made for any reason other than a high failure rate (under warranty) of the pumps? GM made the change because it was costing them warranty dollars. If they thought that most pumps would outlast the warranty would they have done it? I doubt it. If you are driving any make of vehicle with an in tank pump (not just GM) it takes little effort to keep fuel in the tank and to change any external fuel filter at the recommended interval. If out of pure "cussedness" you refuse to, I'll be glad to sell you a $250.00 (or more) fuel pump module. And "Oh Yeah" - you're welcome for the information. Chris - AN5L35xxx ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d90f901b0f6340bb34st02vuc From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Mar 28 14:22:27 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:22:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. References: <20110328.140912.946.304144@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <33874BE69D16459C85C225DA365802BF@personal> I found this whole thread very intresting for sure. No GM trucks for me. I'll stick to Ford, after all, Fix or Repair Daily with a screwdriver works for me. Thanks all. Really, I appreciate the info. > Why are we debating about whether these problems "should" exist. Unless > you are involved in the design of the vehicle, you need to accept that > they are real problems in the field and what you can do to mitigate their > effects. Instead of asking "Why should I keep at least a 1/4 tank of > fuel?" just do it and know that you are lengthening the life of your > pump. Don't bitch to the list that the engineers screwed up. They know > it! Newer Impalas have a "fuel module access plate" in the trunk floor, > so you don't need to drop the tank. Do you think this modification was > made for any reason other than a high failure rate (under warranty) of > the pumps? GM made the change because it was costing them warranty > dollars. If they thought that most pumps would outlast the warranty > would they have done it? I doubt it. If you are driving any make of > vehicle with an in tank pump (not just GM) it takes little effort to keep > fuel in the tank and to change any external fuel filter at the > recommended interval. If out of pure "cussedness" you refuse to, I'll be > glad to sell you a $250.00 (or more) fuel pump module. And "Oh Yeah" - > you're welcome for the information. > > > Chris - AN5L35xxx > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d90f901b0f6340bb34st02vuc > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3535 - Release Date: 03/28/11 From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Mar 28 15:04:34 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <71650452.1315224.1301349435907.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <536361416.1315320.1301349873979.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> The only fuel pump issue that we have had is when our local Mr. Bad Wrench took out a properly working pump and replaced it with a new one, then tried to convince us that it also needed replacement the day we got our still ailing van back. They never once tried to put fuel into it. This was not the problem that we took it in for, and the replacement did not cure the problem. Our company policy is never to go below 1/2 tank, because we carry passengers in a desolate country and gas stations are often 250+ miles apart. Our yard van runs 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, which is a hard life for any vehicle, but does not explain why it suffered brake failure three times in less than 30,000 miles. Nor does it explain why the dome lights tried to turn it into a crematorium, or why the headlights had deep fried wiring at least once a month. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris west" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:08:18 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. Why are we debating about whether these problems "should" exist. Unless you are involved in the design of the vehicle, you need to accept that they are real problems in the field and what you can do to mitigate their effects. Instead of asking "Why should I keep at least a 1/4 tank of fuel?" just do it and know that you are lengthening the life of your pump. From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Mar 28 15:31:37 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:31:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. Message-ID: I loved reading him from his earliest days at C&D. His article on the then-new BMW 2002 ("Let Us Now Turn to Hymn 2002") has to be one of best reviews I have ever seen. A real journalist willing to put himself on the line. I was fortunate to make his acquaintance when I moved to Michigan in '91 and was one of the crew that put on the Perfect Ten Rally around Lake Michigan to celebrate the 10th anniversary of Automobile Magazine. Got to drink whiskey and smoke cigars while listening to a master storyteller tell the truth and make it sound like a yarn. JohnD ------------- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) From: HealeyRick Subject: [Spridgets] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. To: healeys at autox.team.net, spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <31559.91907.qm at web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was a big fan of C&D in the 60s and 70s. Brock Yates, Warren Weith and of course, David. E. Davis, Jr. seemed more edgy than the more staid Road & Track. Mr Davis passed yesterday from cancer: http://tinyurl.com/5voca37 Rick From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 20:28:00 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:28:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dealer Fuel Pump Fix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: My pump died on the way to the dump with a full load in the bed of dump $600.0 for the pump and around $300.00 for labor. I paid them just under a grand to have it repaired. ----------------------------------------------------- I recently took my HHR to a dealer for an oil change. They had a sale going and it was only $14.95 plus tax with a coupon. We dropped if off and my wife and I went to lunch. During our meal her cell rang. It was the dealer who wanted to tell me that the front struts were both leaking and he could new OEM struts for only $680 plus tax. He included an alignment too... I told him to just do the oil change and I would worry about the struts later. I also told him that I was not about to put OEM parts back on the car since they didn't even last 60K miles! I stopped at Sears on the way back to get the car. Their price was $474 for Monroe struts w/alignment. I bought a pair of new Monroes off ebay for $114 shipped. My son-in-law is going to help me put them on when the weather gets better. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From shop at justbrits.com Mon Mar 28 22:09:47 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:09:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] Seat Belts...] Message-ID: <4D91699B.1000108@justbrits.com> From Big Healeys List REAL "racing" !!!! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Healeys] Seat Belts... Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:09:59 -0700 From: Len and/or Marge H Reply-To: Len and/or Marge H To: AH Mail List Getting back to seat belts.... 4 minutes of driver's bodies leaving the car's cockpit. Dramatic Vintage Racing Crashes! http://vimeo.com/20247765 (The Other) Len Vacaville, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 06:30:12 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:30:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <33874BE69D16459C85C225DA365802BF@personal> References: <20110328.140912.946.304144@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> <33874BE69D16459C85C225DA365802BF@personal> Message-ID: Even with the fuel pump problem, when I drove the Ford and the Chevy, the Chevy won out in a hurry. It drives like a car, tows with no problems, and hauls the family to Disney every year. Would I buy another one? You bet. Right after I hit the lottery, they are now selling for $ 45,000 or so. WAAAAAY more than I think that they are worth. but that could change.. Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > I found this whole thread very intresting for sure. No GM trucks for > me. I'll stick to Ford, after all, Fix or Repair Daily with a > screwdriver works for me. > > Thanks all. Really, I appreciate the info. > > > >> Why are we debating about whether these problems "should" exist. >> Unless >> you are involved in the design of the vehicle, you need to accept >> that >> they are real problems in the field and what you can do to mitigate >> their >> effects. Instead of asking "Why should I keep at least a 1/4 tank of >> fuel?" just do it and know that you are lengthening the life of your >> pump. Don't bitch to the list that the engineers screwed up. They >> know >> it! Newer Impalas have a "fuel module access plate" in the trunk >> floor, >> so you don't need to drop the tank. Do you think this modification >> was >> made for any reason other than a high failure rate (under warranty) >> of >> the pumps? GM made the change because it was costing them warranty >> dollars. If they thought that most pumps would outlast the warranty >> would they have done it? I doubt it. If you are driving any make of >> vehicle with an in tank pump (not just GM) it takes little effort >> to keep >> fuel in the tank and to change any external fuel filter at the >> recommended interval. If out of pure "cussedness" you refuse to, >> I'll be >> glad to sell you a $250.00 (or more) fuel pump module. And "Oh >> Yeah" - >> you're welcome for the information. >> >> >> Chris - AN5L35xxx >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Groupon™ Official Site >> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's >> best! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d90f901b0f6340bb34st02vuc >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3535 - Release Date: >> 03/28/11 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 29 07:06:30 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <20110328.140912.946.304144@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110328.140912.946.304144@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: I had the wonderful fortune to have a fuel pump replaced last year on my Subaru. I routinely get close to empty as gas stations are off my beaten path. I swore after our ice storm of several years ago, where filling stations that had electricity to power their pumps were hard to come by, that I would remain 'prepared' and keep the tank as full as possible at all times. I think I will renew that pledge. Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > it takes little effort to keep > fuel in the tank and to change any external fuel filter at the > recommended interval. > > Chris - AN5L35xxx From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 07:11:57 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:11:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <20110328185456.QYIK4.43840.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> <4D90E19E.4020206@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <0C6970FE-BD5F-4684-9083-7994128FD37E@comcast.net> That's not the same as getting tanked at the beginning of your shift is it? Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:47 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > That's why I always filled up at the beginning of my shift! > > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " > wrote: >> << ...since idling while almost empty is certainly a legitimate use >> of the vehicle. >> >> >> So the Police Officer "on the scene" of an event that requires his >> cruiser to be used to block a street [with Emergency Lights >> displayed] >> or the Fire Chief "on the scene" of an event that requires his >> vehicle to be used to block a street [with Emergency Lights >> displayed] >> or an Ambulance "on the scene" of an event that requires that said >> Ambulance to just be 'parked' [with Emergency Lights displayed] >> whilst retrieving patient[s]............ >> >> .....................is SCREWED ?!?!? >> >> Tacky !!! >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 07:12:29 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:12:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30F0E6EB-9128-4D49-879B-F36324D592CC@comcast.net> Danes too... Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Dans, Swedes, they all look the same to me.... > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Billy Zoom > wrote: > >>> Something is rotten in Denmark. >> No, Saabs are Swedish. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 07:13:33 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:13:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <835467312598280263@unknownmsgid> References: <835467312598280263@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <87E37234-DE22-41D6-9CC9-BD6A6DA9F4AF@comcast.net> Well maybe not when new but a few wet dogs later they have a certain aroma... Lester On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:40 PM, David Lieb wrote: > But the SAABS are the ones that DON'T stink... > > David L > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 13:31, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Dans, Swedes, they all look the same to me.... >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Billy Zoom >> wrote: >> >>>> Something is rotten in Denmark. >>> No, Saabs are Swedish. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Mar 29 07:17:24 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:17:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: References: <20110328.140912.946.304144@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <201103290617597.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I'll chime in that we sell LOTS of very expensive fuel pumps (lots for SAABs, too;). The fuel pump will wear more quickly not just because of crud in the tank, but it also needs a volume of fuel to keep itself cool. The fuel returning from the engine can be quite warm, and all FI returns lots of fuel to the tank. Peter C ==== At 09:06 AM 3/29/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: >I would remain 'prepared' and keep the tank as full as possible at all times. >I think I will renew that pledge. > >Robert Duquette > >Ottawa ON Canada > > it takes little effort to keep > > fuel in the tank and to change any external fuel filter at the > > recommended interval. > > > > Chris - AN5L35xxx From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Mar 29 07:26:42 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:26:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups Message-ID: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> I don't own a pickup and have never owned one so I don't have a horse in this race - as they say. However, I have noticed on the news that the guys who are fighting against GaDaffey are using 'Yota's. The trucks seem to be quite versatile as they can be loaded with a dozen guys, a cannon, machine guns, antiaircraft guns or it seems sometimes all of these at once. Don't think I've seen a Ford, Chevy or Dodge in the fight. They must be affordable for the freedom fighters or maybe they are just rentals. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Mar 29 07:33:50 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 07:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ironic, a Tea Bagger pointed that out to me just the other day. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Tim Collins I have noticed on the news that the guys who are fighting against GaDaffey are using 'Yota's. The trucks seem to be quite versatile as they can be loaded with a dozen guys, a cannon, machine guns, antiaircraft guns or it seems sometimes all of these at once. Don't think I've seen a Ford, Chevy or Dodge in the fight. They must be affordable for the freedom fighters or maybe they are just rentals. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Mar 29 07:38:50 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:38:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201103290638947.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Even more ironic.... I use Eudora email program. Tim's post was clean. Jay's had 2 chilies. Just sayin' Peter C ---- At 09:33 AM 3/29/2011, Jay wrote: >Ironic, a Tea Bagger pointed that out to me just the other day. > > jay fishbein >wallingford, ct >________________________________ >From: Tim Collins > >I have noticed on the news that the guys who are fighting against >GaDaffey are >using 'Yota's. The trucks seem to be quite versatile as they can be >loaded with >a dozen guys, a cannon, machine guns, antiaircraft guns or it seems sometimes >all of these at once. Don't think I've seen a Ford, Chevy or Dodge >in the fight. >They must be affordable for the freedom fighters or maybe they are >just rentals. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Mar 29 08:32:11 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:32:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> I wonder how widespread the fuel pump issue really is. I've been driving fuel-injected cars since the early 1980's and I've had 2 pumps replaced. One I replaced in my old VW before 1985, the other was replaced in my 1985 Jetta under warranty. I have not had a problem with the American cars I've owned since 1988. > I had the wonderful fortune to have a fuel pump replaced last year on my > Subaru. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 08:39:51 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:39:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> References: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> Message-ID: Excellent point. Counting motorcycles I've had fuel injected vehicles with immersible fuel pumps since 1989 with close to 250K total miles. Nary a fuel pump has failed. What am I doing wrong? Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > I wonder how widespread the fuel pump issue really is. I've been driving > fuel-injected cars since the early 1980's and I've had 2 pumps replaced. > One I replaced in my old VW before 1985, the other was replaced in my 1985 > Jetta under warranty. I have not had a problem with the American cars I've > owned since 1988. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 29 08:43:45 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:43:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> References: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> Message-ID: <4D91FE31.3040005@justbrits.com> << One I replaced in my old VW before 1985, the other was replaced in my 1985 Jetta under warranty. >> But WHERE were the pumps located, "Blow J.." ?? Ed From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 08:44:52 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:44:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC.....Guy burns car to save house. Message-ID: http://jalopnik.com/#!5786453/how-a-man-saved-his-house-by-setting-his-car-on-fire Lin From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Mar 29 08:45:28 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> References: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> Message-ID: <824097.95034.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Judging by this thread, my impression is that it has reached crisis-level. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: "bjshov8 at tx.rr.com" To: Spridgets Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 11:32:11 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. I wonder how widespread the fuel pump issue really is. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 29 08:59:32 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:59:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. References: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> <4D91FE31.3040005@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <90A0B588D3944605A0AD53BE91AB97F6@YOURF074400E59> Geez, Ed. I don't recall him saying anything to deserve that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. << One I replaced in my old VW before 1985, the other was replaced in my 1985 Jetta under warranty. >> But WHERE were the pumps located, "Blow J.." ?? Ed Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 09:06:21 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:06:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <90A0B588D3944605A0AD53BE91AB97F6@YOURF074400E59> References: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> <4D91FE31.3040005@justbrits.com> <90A0B588D3944605A0AD53BE91AB97F6@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: <-7730250795739067873@unknownmsgid> > Geez, Ed. I don't recall him saying anything to deserve that. ED is merely jealous cuz no one has figured out that he reversed the letters to name his company. David L From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Mar 29 09:27:47 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:27:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: References: , <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01>, Message-ID: Keeping gas in your tank, apparently. :) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > > Excellent point. Counting motorcycles I've had fuel injected vehicles with > immersible fuel pumps since 1989 with close to 250K total miles. Nary a fuel > pump has failed. What am I doing wrong? > > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > > > I wonder how widespread the fuel pump issue really is. I've been driving > > fuel-injected cars since the early 1980's and I've had 2 pumps replaced. > > One I replaced in my old VW before 1985, the other was replaced in my 1985 > > Jetta under warranty. I have not had a problem with the American cars I've > > owned since 1988. From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 10:01:40 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <834894.50836.qm@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Where you in a gay bath house when the 'Tea Bagger' expounded about the Libyan pickup trucks? Skip Jackson Cincinnati, Ohio ----- Original Message ---- From: Jay To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:33:50 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pickups Ironic, a Tea Bagger pointed that out to me just the other day. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Tim Collins I have noticed on the news that the guys who are fighting against GaDaffey are using 'Yota's. The trucks seem to be quite versatile as they can be loaded with a dozen guys, a cannon, machine guns, antiaircraft guns or it seems sometimes all of these at once. Don't think I've seen a Ford, Chevy or Dodge in the fight. They must be affordable for the freedom fighters or maybe they are just rentals. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jackson.skip at yahoo.com From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Mar 29 10:04:27 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <201103290638947.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201103290638947.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <827798.27519.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Just speak up if you want to see 4 Chili's. jay ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:38:50 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pickups Even more ironic.... I use Eudora email program. Tim's post was clean. Jay's had 2 chilies. Just sayin' From peter at nosimport.com Tue Mar 29 10:08:17 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:08:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <834894.50836.qm@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <834894.50836.qm@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201103290908723.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Oooh... went from 2 chilies to 3 chilies..... I think that's the limit. retep = At 12:01 PM 3/29/2011, Skip Jackson wrote: >Where you in a gay bath house when the 'Tea Bagger' expounded about the Libyan >pickup trucks? >Skip Jackson >Cincinnati, Ohio > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Jay >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Tue, March >29, 2011 10:33:50 AM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pickups > >Ironic, a Tea Bagger >pointed that out to me just the other day. > >jay fishbein >wallingford, ct >________________________________ >From: Tim Collins > >I have >noticed on the news that the guys who are fighting against GaDaffey are >using >'Yota's. The trucks seem to be quite versatile as they can be loaded with >a >dozen guys, a cannon, machine guns, antiaircraft guns or it seems sometimes >all of these at once. Don't think I've seen a Ford, Chevy or Dodge in the >fight. > >They must be affordable for the freedom fighters or maybe they are >just rentals. >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: >http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: >http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jackson.skip at yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3537 - Release Date: 03/29/11 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Mar 29 10:18:57 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:18:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <834894.50836.qm@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Where you in a gay bath house when the 'Tea Bagger' expounded about the Libyan > pickup trucks? > Skip Jackson > Cincinnati, Ohio And could you respond to Skip directly. I'd rather not know the answer. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 10:31:12 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:31:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <827798.27519.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201103290638947.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <827798.27519.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: FOUR!? you must be inviting some friends over... Did ya hear about the Hispanic guy with two "chili's"? He named the first one Jose, He named the second one, "Hose B" On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jay wrote: > Just speak up if you want to see 4 Chili's. > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Peter Caldwell > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:38:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pickups > > Even more ironic.... I use Eudora email program. Tim's post was > clean. Jay's had 2 chilies. > Just sayin' > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 10:43:57 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:43:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> References: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> Message-ID: A friend with a new Vette had a bad fuel pump. Dealer had to pull the rear end, transmission (mounted to rear end), and torque tube (between transmission and engine) to get to the tank and access the fuel pump. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Mar 29 10:51:01 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <201103290908723.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <834894.50836.qm@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201103290908723.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <578831.25661.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I must be slow today. I have no idea what Skip is talking about, and that's a serious statement. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: Skip Jackson Cc: spridget Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 1:08:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pickups Oooh... went from 2 chilies to 3 chilies..... I think that's the limit. retep = At 12:01 PM 3/29/2011, Skip Jackson wrote: >Where you in a gay bath house when the 'Tea Bagger' expounded about the Libyan >pickup trucks? >Skip Jackson >Cincinnati, Ohio From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Mar 29 10:56:25 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: References: <20110329153211.KKIB2.94332.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> Message-ID: <610426.78426.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Bad news. jay ________________________________ From: derf To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Cc: Spridgets Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 1:43:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. A friend with a new Vette had a bad fuel pump. Dealer had to pull the rear end, transmission (mounted to rear end), and torque tube (between transmission and engine) to get to the tank and access the fuel pump. From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue Mar 29 11:04:30 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bad day, good day.. Message-ID: <1404756540.2055313.1301421870188.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> "Bad day" because the darn rain won't quit and I can't work on any of the cars!! "Good Day" because I just heard Les Paul and Chet Atkins playing "Birth of the Blues"... never heard it before.. fabulous Just had to tell someone... sorry! OK... this old fart will get back to cleaning his wrenches (Ed., I said "wrenches" not "wenches"!) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 29 11:18:01 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:18:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad day, good day; too wet for wenching In-Reply-To: <1404756540.2055313.1301421870188.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1404756540.2055313.1301421870188.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <015788978B1E4BC18B36FD2517114FD9@spider> There's a 2006 video of them doing that. ...bill in corvallis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGsHTlKmWk ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:05 AM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Bad day, good day.. "Bad day" because the darn rain won't quit and I can't work on any of the cars!! "Good Day" because I just heard Les Paul and Chet Atkins playing "Birth of the Blues"... never heard it before.. fabulous Just had to tell someone... sorry! OK... this old fart will get back to cleaning his wrenches (Ed., I said "wrenches" not "wenches"!) -- Dave G KK7SS From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Mar 29 11:21:26 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <-5841884552275376343@unknownmsgid> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <834894.50836.qm@web46405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201103290908723.SM01404@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <578831.25661.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <-5841884552275376343@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <966318.20674.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Dave, This is one time I am proud to say that I didn't know what I was talking about. As for Skip? ..................... I guess he has some explaining to do. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> To: Jay Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 1:54:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pickups Then you will not want to google 'teabagging'!! David L On Mar 29, 2011, at 12:51, Jay wrote: > I must be slow today. I have no idea what Skip is talking about, and that's a > serious statement. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Mar 29 11:43:59 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:43:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201103291043718.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Well.... that explained the chilies, right there. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 12:00:18 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:00:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: <201103291043718.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <201103291043718.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Red or Green Chilies....? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Well.... that explained the chilies, right there. > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 29 12:01:42 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:01:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups References: <9c4a79$biqs7d@email.mtu.edu> <816964.69329.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0D4BF7B20C734B83A2A369DBA6A9C3C5@YOURF074400E59> I've always thought that the best thing to do with a tea bag is to hold it under water for at least five minutes. The ones who call themselves Tea Baggers have done nothing to change that notion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pickups Ironic, a Tea Bagger pointed that out to me just the other day. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Tim Collins I have noticed on the news that the guys who are fighting against GaDaffey are using 'Yota's. The trucks seem to be quite versatile as they can be loaded with a dozen guys, a cannon, machine guns, antiaircraft guns or it seems sometimes all of these at once. Don't think I've seen a Ford, Chevy or Dodge in the fight. They must be affordable for the freedom fighters or maybe they are just rentals. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From pvanwig at me.com Tue Mar 29 12:10:28 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:10:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprinzel Coupe for sale In-Reply-To: <5E334F131CA24B4D84E45D2D7AAACE8D@blackbox2> References: <814454.72599.qm@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5E334F131CA24B4D84E45D2D7AAACE8D@blackbox2> Message-ID: <0336C679-9ADA-482C-8CB0-5267BD2010BC@me.com> Anti judder strap like the Morris Minors have Paul Van Wig pvanwig at me.com On Mar 27, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > There is one thing I was wondering about on EAO410. > > There is one picture of the engine where you can see a small bracket at the > union of the transmission to the engine. There seems to be some sort of > strut or something connected to that bracket. > > What is it? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at me.com From fastvee at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 12:34:43 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pickups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <937266.72059.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chilies, I'm confused. It was only recently I learned about stinkface! I got some catching up to do. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Red or Green Chilies....? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Well.... that explained the chilies, right there. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Mar 29 12:59:12 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:59:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re; 2010 GMC GHassles and issues. In-Reply-To: <4D91FE31.3040005@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <20110329195913.COL5L.64077.root@cdptpa-web15-z01> In my first one, the pump was a high pressure inline pump. My understanding was that the pumps while still functioning would shed metal shavings which would jam the check valves and allow the system to lose fuel pressure when not running, making it hard to start next time. I replaced the pump trying to cure this problem. In the Jetta my understanding was that there was a small pump in the tank that would move fuel to the main pump which was still an inline pump. The small pump in the tank failed when almost new and was replaced under warranty by my dealer. > << One I replaced in my old VW before 1985, the other was replaced > in my 1985 Jetta under warranty. >> > > But WHERE were the pumps located, "Blow J.." ?? From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Tue Mar 29 13:15:07 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:15:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up Message-ID: Guys and Gals, I dropped the pan on the Midget today to inspect those rod bearings. There was a small amount of that shiny non-magnetic debris in the bottom. Small amount might be like a small bullet, but so far I was relieved there were no nuts and bolts or big chunks of stuff that would ruin my day. Here`s another question maybe someone can answer: At the front and rear where the "U" sump seals meet the crank ends, I can see more cork seal that apparently mated the contour of those on the sump.I believe these may be part of the U sump seals that remained behind, tore away clean from the lower part. The pan has never been removed and was pretty tight. I do see the parts manual shows only one seal (main bearing cap seal) at the front and rear that fit into the groves in the pan to mate with the crank. But before I try to get those other cork pieces out, I`d better ask. Cheers, Bert Shirey From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Mar 29 13:41:49 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:41:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions References: Message-ID: <8EC9BF7FD4D1487AADC3D2E14242CF18@psych.washington.edu> Susan and I had the opportunity to meet up with Michael while he was out here in Seattle last week. a genuinely nice guy, we talked Spridgets and RV's over drinks and Hawaiian food. from here he was heading to the Bay area to meet up with some family then heading East to NY. It's always nice to put a face to a name and actually meet some of the list folks. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget list" ; Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 3:40 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions >I will be driving an unfamiliar motor home from Seattle to NY in a month or >maybe a little sooner. I definitely do not want to encounter snowy/icy >roads. How far south do I have to go to find clear roads late in March? >Will Grants Pass be clear? Can I make it on Route 84 to 80 across, or is >that too far north? Will the Chicago area be clear then? > > Alternatively, when should I go to be sure of clear roads on Route 80? > > Thanks, > Michael Rowe > 02D170P > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Mar 29 13:56:26 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:56:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions In-Reply-To: <8EC9BF7FD4D1487AADC3D2E14242CF18@psych.washington.edu> References: <8EC9BF7FD4D1487AADC3D2E14242CF18@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Does he have a handle on the road conditions on I-5 in southern Oregon? ...bill in oregon ==================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ball Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions Susan and I had the opportunity to meet up with Michael while he was out here in Seattle last week. a genuinely nice guy, we talked Spridgets and RV's over drinks and Hawaiian food. from here he was heading to the Bay area to meet up with some family then heading East to NY. It's always nice to put a face to a name and actually meet some of the list folks. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA =================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget list" ; Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 3:40 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions >I will be driving an unfamiliar motor home from Seattle to NY in a month or >maybe a little sooner. I definitely do not want to encounter snowy/icy >roads. How far south do I have to go to find clear roads late in March? >Will Grants Pass be clear? Can I make it on Route 84 to 80 across, or is >that too far north? Will the Chicago area be clear then? > > Alternatively, when should I go to be sure of clear roads on Route 80? > > Thanks, > Michael Rowe > 02D170P From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 14:02:09 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:02:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Buy replacement pan gaskets. All of them. Install with RPV. There is no seal on the rear main. Be sure to get the "eyebrow" for the rear main bearing cap tight against the crank. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Bert Shirey wrote: > Guys and Gals, > > I dropped the pan on the Midget today to inspect those rod bearings. > There > was a small amount of that shiny non-magnetic debris in the bottom. Small > amount might be like a small bullet, but so far I was relieved there were > no > nuts and bolts or big chunks of stuff that would ruin my day. > > Here`s another question maybe someone can answer: > > At the front and rear where the "U" sump seals meet the crank ends, I > can > see more cork seal that apparently mated the contour of those on the sump.I > believe these may be part of the U sump seals that remained behind, tore > away > clean from the lower part. The pan has never been removed and was pretty > tight. > > I do see the parts manual shows only one seal (main bearing cap seal) at > the front and rear that fit into the groves in the pan to mate with the > crank. > But before I try to get those other cork pieces out, I`d better ask. > Cheers, > > Bert Shirey > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Mar 29 14:20:22 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:20:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions References: <8EC9BF7FD4D1487AADC3D2E14242CF18@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <438007B92DB848D788D81955F50594A9@psych.washington.edu> He was concerned about hitting snow and ice on his trip, but I'm not sure if he thought about hitting any in the Siskiyou. He was due to be in the Bay area today so I'm hoping/assuming he's there now visiting with his daughter. We should have checked the pass report when he was at my house. I have hit snow there into May. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions > Does he have a handle on the road conditions on I-5 in southern Oregon? > ...bill in oregon > ==================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ball > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:42 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions > > Susan and I had the opportunity to meet up with Michael while he was out > here in Seattle last week. a genuinely nice guy, we talked Spridgets and > RV's over drinks and Hawaiian food. from here he was heading to the Bay > area to meet up with some family then heading East to NY. > > It's always nice to put a face to a name and actually meet some of the > list > folks. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > =================================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Rowe" > To: "Spridget list" ; > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 3:40 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Road conditions > > >>I will be driving an unfamiliar motor home from Seattle to NY in a month >>or > >>maybe a little sooner. I definitely do not want to encounter snowy/icy >>roads. How far south do I have to go to find clear roads late in March? >>Will Grants Pass be clear? Can I make it on Route 84 to 80 across, or is >>that too far north? Will the Chicago area be clear then? >> >> Alternatively, when should I go to be sure of clear roads on Route 80? >> >> Thanks, >> Michael Rowe >> 02D170P > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 14:56:32 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Michiganders attending the 50th.... Message-ID: The Midget 50th Committee has arranged a group discount rate for anyone attending the Midget 50th Celebration in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. You can take the four hour boat ride, with your vehicle, from Ludington, MI to Manitowoc, WI and drive 35 miles to Elkhart Lake, avoiding Chicago traffic. There are additional discounts available until April 30th, too!! Huge thanks to President Steve Swarin for setting this up!! READ ALL ABOUT IT....... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/SSBadger.pdf -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 29 15:37:01 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:37:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Michiganders attending the 50th.... References: Message-ID: <06A4C285355344729B5EC24B57B10AED@YOURF074400E59> JJ, it probably wouldn't hurt to mention this also as an alternative for those from the east to avoid Chicago traffic. Peter C. and I have taken it to meet Ron for a race in MI and it was a decent ride. That discount is pretty good. Hell, tell them to bring some fishing gear and they might be able to troll for some nice Lake Trout on the ride! (Might be a little fast for that.) LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" ; "Sprite" ; "sprite-midgetclub" Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:56 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Michiganders attending the 50th.... The Midget 50th Committee has arranged a group discount rate for anyone attending the Midget 50th Celebration in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. You can take the four hour boat ride, with your vehicle, from Ludington, MI to Manitowoc, WI and drive 35 miles to Elkhart Lake, avoiding Chicago traffic. There are additional discounts available until April 30th, too!! Huge thanks to President Steve Swarin for setting this up!! READ ALL ABOUT IT....... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/SSBadger.pdf -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 15:39:41 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. In-Reply-To: <098E2B89EFCC1F40A63BBC6B403BFDDC4A8628C7@PRGMBX07> Message-ID: <798161.12660.qm@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> And how could I have forgotten Jean Shepard as a columnist and incidentally wrote "A Christmas Story" Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Freese, Ken wrote: From: Freese, Ken Subject: RE: [Healeys] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. To: "HealeyRick" , "healeys at autox.team.net" , "spridgets at autox.team.net" Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:55 AM Rick, Thanks for the notice. I got my first CD subscription in 1962 at age 10. Yes, I thought Warren Weith was pretty cool. I would take some of his columns to English class. Ken Freese -----Original Message----- From: healeys-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:17 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] RIP David E. Davis, Jr. I was a big fan of C&D in the 60s and 70s. Brock Yates, Warren Weith and of course, David. E. Davis, Jr. seemed more edgy than the more staid Road & Track. Mr Davis passed yesterday from cancer: http://tinyurl.com/5voca37 Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo _______________________________________________ Healeys at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kendall.freese at aerojet.com From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 16:18:16 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:18:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Woody fs near Sacramento Message-ID: Pretty awesome car! *http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2289439544.html Hal * From doug_altman at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 16:31:53 2011 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Michiganders attending the 50th.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30555.84425.qm@web125706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Jim - I wholeheartedly recommend the Badger boat ride from Ludington to Manitowoc. I've done it several times and it is an interesting experience that you will thoroughly enjoy. Even for those coming from the East, coming through Canada, Port Huron, and on to Ludington can save miles. I regret I must take I-94 around Lake Michigan, enduring the Chicago traffic, to collect my brother, his wife, and their Midget, since we are driving together to the 50th from their place. Looking forward to the event and seeing everyone again. Doug ....o~'o ________________________________ From: Jim Johnson To: Spridgets ; Yahoo Spridget list ; Sprite ; sprite-midgetclub Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 5:56:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Michiganders attending the 50th.... The Midget 50th Committee has arranged a group discount rate for anyone attending the Midget 50th Celebration in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. You can take the four hour boat ride, with your vehicle, from Ludington, MI to Manitowoc, WI and drive 35 miles to Elkhart Lake, avoiding Chicago traffic. There are additional discounts available until April 30th, too!! Huge thanks to President Steve Swarin for setting this up!! READ ALL ABOUT IT....... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/SSBadger.pdf -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/doug_altman at yahoo.com From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Tue Mar 29 16:54:21 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:54:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up References: Message-ID: <60A522DCAF834FCB84BAD64EEB618B8A@yourw92p4bhlzg> Thanks Jim, By "eyebrow" do you mean the "U" cork seal? No seal--then, the U-shaped cork seals that fit in the groves at front and rear of the pan mate up against bare metal surfaces either end of the crank caps, and do not mate against another cork seal of similar contour? There is no other cork seal at the crank ends other than those U seals installed in the pan? While I`m here, what is the opinion on the rubber rear seal vs the cork? I`ve got both. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up > Buy replacement pan gaskets. All of them. Install with RPV. There is no > seal > on the rear main. Be sure to get the "eyebrow" for the rear main bearing > cap > tight against the crank. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Bert Shirey > wrote: > >> Guys and Gals, >> >> I dropped the pan on the Midget today to inspect those rod bearings. >> There >> was a small amount of that shiny non-magnetic debris in the bottom. Small >> amount might be like a small bullet, but so far I was relieved there were >> no >> nuts and bolts or big chunks of stuff that would ruin my day. >> >> Here`s another question maybe someone can answer: >> >> At the front and rear where the "U" sump seals meet the crank ends, I >> can >> see more cork seal that apparently mated the contour of those on the >> sump.I >> believe these may be part of the U sump seals that remained behind, tore >> away >> clean from the lower part. The pan has never been removed and was pretty >> tight. >> >> I do see the parts manual shows only one seal (main bearing cap seal) >> at >> the front and rear that fit into the groves in the pan to mate with the >> crank. >> But before I try to get those other cork pieces out, I`d better ask. >> Cheers, >> >> Bert Shirey >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bertshirey at zoominternet.net From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 17:50:51 2011 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:50:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up In-Reply-To: <60A522DCAF834FCB84BAD64EEB618B8A@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <60A522DCAF834FCB84BAD64EEB618B8A@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <4D927E6B.1090502@comcast.net> On 3/29/2011 7:54 PM, Bert Shirey wrote: > Thanks Jim, > > By "eyebrow" do you mean the "U" cork seal? > He was referring to the metal piece under the crankshaft at the rear bearing cap. If you loosen those 3 bolts, make absolute sure top edge is perfectly flush with the engine block. This is the rear main leak area, well one of them anyway. If it is not flat with he block, it will leak. It is semi adjustable with the 3 bolts and just when you know it's perfectly flat and tighten the bolts, it moves. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Tue Mar 29 18:56:33 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:56:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Removal Message-ID: Looks like that "eyebrow" alignment comes in when the main bearing is disturbed. I`m only doing the big end rod bearings and, right now, don`t plan on messing with the mains unless it`s necessary. Thanks again for the help ! Bert From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 20:25:49 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:25:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up In-Reply-To: <4D927E6B.1090502@comcast.net> References: <60A522DCAF834FCB84BAD64EEB618B8A@yourw92p4bhlzg> <4D927E6B.1090502@comcast.net> Message-ID: What Frank said... As to the cork, it is not really a seal. Simply a gasket. Match them up as closely as possible to the pan gasket and RPV the whole thing on reassembly. The "eyebrow" should match the rear main bearing cap tightly or, as Frank said, you will have leaks. Cheers!!! Jim On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > On 3/29/2011 7:54 PM, Bert Shirey wrote: > >> Thanks Jim, >> >> By "eyebrow" do you mean the "U" cork seal? >> >> He was referring to the metal piece under the crankshaft at the rear > bearing cap. > If you loosen those 3 bolts, make absolute sure top edge is perfectly flush > with the engine block. > This is the rear main leak area, well one of them anyway. > If it is not flat with he block, it will leak. > It is semi adjustable with the 3 bolts and just when you know it's > perfectly flat and tighten the bolts, it moves. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > Did you register for the Midget 50th meet yet? > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From shop at justbrits.com Tue Mar 29 20:35:27 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:35:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up In-Reply-To: <4D927E6B.1090502@comcast.net> References: <60A522DCAF834FCB84BAD64EEB618B8A@yourw92p4bhlzg> <4D927E6B.1090502@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D92A4FF.3090008@justbrits.com> << It is semi adjustable with the 3 bolts and just when you know it's perfectly flat and tighten the bolts, it moves. >> GOSPEL !! As sure as God made little green apples !!!! Then after 2nd - 3rd 'try' you 'decide' to "fudge" it just a WEE bit KNOWING the damned thing is GONNA move right where it needs to be, right ??? Not a chance in He|| !! NOW it stays put !!!!! Ed From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 21:58:17 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up In-Reply-To: <4D92A4FF.3090008@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <510973.8591.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Best thing to do is have a good machine shop set it up with a feeler gauge and pin it. No way 3 sloppy bolt holes will do it.None of it really matters if the crank isn't true and a proper align hone hasn't been done. And don't get the impression that I bat 1.000 on this - you are at the mercy of the machinist and the parts to some extent. Paul A.'s seal kit works well. --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: From: Shop at " Just Brits " Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up To: Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:35 PM << It is semi adjustable with the 3 bolts and just when you know it's perfectly flat and tighten the bolts, it moves. >> GOSPEL !! As sure as God made little green apples !!!! Then after 2nd - 3rd 'try' you 'decide' to "fudge" it just a WEE bit KNOWING the damned thing is GONNA move right where it needs to be, right ??? Not a chance in He|| !! NOW it stays put !!!!! Ed Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 30 08:16:56 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Delays travelling on I90 In-Reply-To: <1530553759.2070049.1301498107604.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2096814544.2070088.1301498216091.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> For those in the Pacific Northwest USA - my apologies to the rest ;-( "Expect hour-long delays *all summer* between April and September, on I90 at Snoqualmie Pass East, for 2 miles each side of mile marker 68, due to rock blasting for road widening" "Also lane restrictions for 5 miles near Easton - again *all summer*" What Fun... NOT! I think I'll stay home this summer! For the uninitiated, this is THE major E-W route to & from Seattle. FYI... -- Dave G KK7SS (in SE Washington....) DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From shop at justbrits.com Wed Mar 30 08:48:04 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:48:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Delays travelling on I90 In-Reply-To: <2096814544.2070088.1301498216091.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <2096814544.2070088.1301498216091.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D9350B4.9040801@justbrits.com> << I think I'll stay home this summer! >> Make VERY good friends of a chopper pilot, Dave !!!! Better yet, build one of those EAA VW powered ones !!! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 30 09:26:02 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:26:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Delays travelling on I90 In-Reply-To: <2096814544.2070088.1301498216091.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1530553759.2070049.1301498107604.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <2096814544.2070088.1301498216091.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Sounds like Canada. We have 2 seasons, Winter and construction. ;) Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada > "Expect hour-long delays *all summer* between April and September, on I90 at Snoqualmie Pass East, for 2 miles each side of mile marker 68, due to rock blasting for road widening" > "Also lane restrictions for 5 miles near Easton - again *all summer*" > > What Fun... NOT! > > I think I'll stay home this summer! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS (in SE Washington....) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 30 09:39:01 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:39:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad day, good day; too wet for wenching In-Reply-To: <015788978B1E4BC18B36FD2517114FD9@spider> References: <1404756540.2055313.1301421870188.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <015788978B1E4BC18B36FD2517114FD9@spider> Message-ID: I liked the idea of wet wenches better ... Robert > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > > There's a 2006 video of them doing that. ...bill in corvallis > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGsHTlKmWk > ============================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:05 AM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Bad day, good day.. > > "Bad day" because the darn rain won't quit and I can't work on any of the > cars!! > "Good Day" because I just heard Les Paul and Chet Atkins playing "Birth of > the Blues"... never heard it before.. fabulous > > Just had to tell someone... sorry! > > OK... this old fart will get back to cleaning his wrenches > (Ed., I said "wrenches" not "wenches"!) > -- > Dave G KK7SS From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 30 09:51:24 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:51:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net>, <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net>, Message-ID: It's 46 degrees here and it's beautiful. We're not spoiled yet by 'hot' weather. Robert D > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:51:13 -0500 > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Our nice weather is gone now too, it's only 55* today. Quite a change from > the 80*+ we had Thursday and Friday... From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 11:41:47 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:41:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad day, good day; too wet for wenching In-Reply-To: References: <1404756540.2055313.1301421870188.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <015788978B1E4BC18B36FD2517114FD9@spider> Message-ID: Wenching, ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH! From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 30 14:13:47 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] delays on I90 In-Reply-To: <539604680.2076114.1301519484459.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <875605726.2076148.1301519627290.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I've just decided... There are 17 Wineries with tasting rooms, and 5 wine bars, within a 20 mile drive from my house... !! My vacation plans are made !! :^D Subject closed :) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 14:30:54 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:30:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] delays on I90 In-Reply-To: <875605726.2076148.1301519627290.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <539604680.2076114.1301519484459.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <875605726.2076148.1301519627290.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > I've just decided... > There are 17 Wineries with tasting rooms, and 5 wine bars, within a 20 mile drive from my house... !! > My vacation plans are made !! :^D > Subject closed :) I trust this rules out the VW-powered copter? David L From rich_ball at mindspring.com Wed Mar 30 15:05:28 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:05:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] delays on I90 References: <875605726.2076148.1301519627290.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <545EDF7430D34A3CAC752D699A63E877@psych.washington.edu> Now if you just had your Sprite running. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave KK7SS" To: ; "morris motors" ; "midgetsprite_yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] delays on I90 > I've just decided... > There are 17 Wineries with tasting rooms, and 5 wine bars, within a 20 > mile drive from my house... !! > > My vacation plans are made !! :^D > > Subject closed :) > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig > > ,59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 30 15:40:19 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] delays on I90 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <423941301.2077233.1301524819815.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Well..... that would be another way to get high -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> I trust this rules out the VW-powered copter? From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Mar 30 15:51:26 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:51:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up In-Reply-To: References: <60A522DCAF834FCB84BAD64EEB618B8A@yourw92p4bhlzg><4D927E6B.1090502@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3DF9F21DDB9F4FA0BA2880FDE69FA586@blackbox2> I think Jim means RTV instead of RPV. "Room Temperature Vulcanizing" AKA High Temperature Silicone Sealant Unless RPV is something new that I have not heard about. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up What Frank said... As to the cork, it is not really a seal. Simply a gasket. Match them up as closely as possible to the pan gasket and RPV the whole thing on reassembly. The "eyebrow" should match the rear main bearing cap tightly or, as Frank said, you will have leaks. Cheers!!! Jim From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Mar 30 16:57:02 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up In-Reply-To: <3DF9F21DDB9F4FA0BA2880FDE69FA586@blackbox2> Message-ID: <998430.78954.qm@web180601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Remotely Piloted Vehicle, usually with cruise missiles. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Dean Hedin wrote: From: Dean Hedin Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up To: "'Jim Johnson'" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 10:51 PM I think Jim means RTV instead of RPV. "Room Temperature Vulcanizing" AKA High Temperature Silicone Sealant Unless RPV is something new that I have not heard about. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bearing Replacement Follow Up What Frank said... As to the cork, it is not really a seal. Simply a gasket. Match them up as closely as possible to the pan gasket and RPV the whole thing on reassembly. The "eyebrow" should match the rear main bearing cap tightly or, as Frank said, you will have leaks. Cheers!!! Jim Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Wed Mar 30 17:29:35 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] delays on I90 In-Reply-To: <875605726.2076148.1301519627290.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <875605726.2076148.1301519627290.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <835671.43559.qm@web112720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Why I 90 when you have one best drives in the country over Chinook when they get the snow cleaned off. Bill W Puyallup, Wa ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: spridgets at autox.team.net; morris motors ; midgetsprite_yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 2:13:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] delays on I90 I've just decided... There are 17 Wineries with tasting rooms, and 5 wine bars, within a 20 mile drive from my house... !! My vacation plans are made !! :^D Subject closed :) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Mar 30 17:49:54 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] delays on I90 In-Reply-To: <1300222675.2079147.1301532403141.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1489810261.2079207.1301532594903.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Yep.. they plan to start clearing the road in about 2 weeks... I90 is the fastest route; Whistling Jacks is also pretty - if the road doesn't slide out from under you -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bug Eye" Why I 90 when you have one best drives in the country over Chinook when they get the snow cleaned off. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 31 06:34:39 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:34:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Is it spring yet, or .... NO LBC Message-ID: Something crossed my mind and I did a little search and found out that what was on my mind is on the market. Does anyone know anything about these or similar 'music servers'? http://downloads.olive.us/olive_o4hd_datasheet.pdf http://www.olive.us/products.html Thanks! Robert Duquette Ottawa ON Canada From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 31 07:21:59 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:21:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> Message-ID: <201103310621429.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> High of 48 today, 2" snow tonight.... loverly in Madtown WI Peter --- At 11:51 AM 3/30/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: >It's 46 degrees here and it's beautiful. We're not spoiled yet by 'hot' >weather. > >Robert D From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 07:44:41 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <201103310621429.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> <201103310621429.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: > High of 48 today, 2" snow tonight.... loverly in Madtown WI And just south of you in loverly Des Plaines, IL, we are supposed to have a high of 46 but no snow. Bicycle season is trying to get underway! David L From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Mar 31 08:46:02 2011 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:46:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Michiganders attending the 50th.... Message-ID: Go for it! The Badger is a hoot. I was once given a tour of the engine room while under way. The crank case has big windows in it so the engineer can keep an eye on things. Each connecting rod must be 6 feet long! Beats the Dan Ryan Expy at 5 PM for sure. JohnD ----------- From: Jim Johnson To: Spridgets ; Yahoo Spridget list ; Sprite ; sprite-midgetclub Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 5:56:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Michiganders attending the 50th.... The Midget 50th Committee has arranged a group discount rate for anyone attending the Midget 50th Celebration in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. You can take the four hour boat ride, with your vehicle, from Ludington, MI to Manitowoc, WI and drive 35 miles to Elkhart Lake, avoiding Chicago traffic. There are additional discounts available until April 30th, too!! Huge thanks to President Steve Swarin for setting this up!! READ ALL ABOUT IT....... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/SSBadger.pdf -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 31 08:46:19 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:46:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: <2030643220.2023603.1301248127119.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <4D8F7A43.60407@comcast.net> <81D64251-23B4-443B-8169-E8812C43794B@verizon.net> <201103310621429.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <201103310746332.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Yeah... gonna suck having to shovel the lawn before I rake it Saturday.... PPP At 09:44 AM 3/31/2011, David Lieb wrote: > > High of 48 today, 2" snow tonight.... loverly in Madtown WI > >And just south of you in loverly Des Plaines, IL, we are supposed to >have a high of 46 but no snow. Bicycle season is trying to get >underway! >David L From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 31 11:27:37 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:27:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... Message-ID: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html Someone buy it for me..... Peter C From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 11:47:33 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:47:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: > http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html > Someone buy it for me..... Interesting bonnet opening. But why did they just leave the bumper bolts sticking through the front??? Does it come with pre-filled-out tickets to save the cops time? David L From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 31 11:50:53 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:50:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: It might be a bit on the heavy side ... "Tons and tons of chassis bracing" Robert D > > http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html > > Someone buy it for me..... > > > Peter C From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 31 11:53:13 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <67488.21019.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Best full custom, I've seen. PS That's a Midget, right? jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:27:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html Someone buy it for me..... Peter C Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfishbein at snet.net From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 11:57:01 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:57:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Yeah, but Peter, "Tons and tons of chassis bracing, 10 points altogether. " So here we have a Sporidget that weighs at least 2 tons! Can't be much of a performer.... Hal On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html > > Someone buy it for me..... > > > Peter C > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 11:57:15 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <442892.89071.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Am I missing something? No engine info or pics? What's up with that? Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:27:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html Someone buy it for me..... Peter C Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Mar 31 11:59:26 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <000601cbefd5$c1cfba80$456f2f80$@net> I like it too. Is there a reason for that hood shape or is it just 'cause it's cool. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:28 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html Someone buy it for me..... Peter C Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 11:59:33 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <366028.33005.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Aha! I missed that YouTube link at the top... this is sweet! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:27:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html Someone buy it for me..... Peter C Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 31 12:05:23 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:05:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <442892.89071.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <442892.89071.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201103311105743.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> You are missing the Youtube video. I really like it. Peter == At 01:57 PM 3/31/2011, Edward Perez wrote: >Am I missing something? No engine info or pics? What's up with that? > >Edward Perez >Summerville, SC >78 Midget (1275) >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > > > >From: Peter Caldwell >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:27:37 PM >Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... > >http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html > >Someone buy it for me..... > > >Peter C >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3542 - Release Date: 03/31/11 From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 12:10:24 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311105743.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <442892.89071.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <201103311105743.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <557885.31667.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After watching it, he still does not elaborate on engine mods... I wonder what it's got. I only heard four gears too... Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: Edward Perez ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 3:05:23 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I like this... You are missing the Youtube video. I really like it. Peter == At 01:57 PM 3/31/2011, Edward Perez wrote: >Am I missing something? No engine info or pics? What's up with that? > >Edward Perez >Summerville, SC >78 Midget (1275) >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > > > > >From: Peter Caldwell >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 2:27:37 PM >Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... > >http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html > > >Someone buy it for me..... > > >Peter C >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com > > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3542 - Release Date: 03/31/11 From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 31 12:11:30 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <2079500598.2090306.1301598591674.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1747476975.2090318.1301598690091.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Not street legal in Washington state -- no front/rear bumpers! Also, why no pics of the engine bay? And none on the photobucket site he references.. Peter, How about you bu it for me ?? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html Someone buy it for me..... From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Thu Mar 31 12:12:44 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 30th Spite Anniversary pix Message-ID: <1189C1D0-D152-4C63-AE42-00BC8FAE5353@gerardsgarage.com> I've posted a new page on my web site. I think many of you will enjoy seeing the pictures. The link is below and also linked from my "Links" page. A member from another list sent me photos of the 30th Sprite Anniversary in Calisle PA (1988). I'm sure there must be some members here who were there. I have large images linked that show a lot of detail. If you were there and want to identify where you are in the pix, I'll be happy to map and ID your young self...:-) I don't really recognize anyone other than Frank, but I will only do this by request. Please email off list with your info if you are interested. Otherwise, enjoy! http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/30th_versary/30thAnniversary.htm Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 12:20:41 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:20:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: I think it looks tastefully done. I'd prefer different or stock tail lights. The hood is neat but I'd prefer a front tilting front end. My guess is he pulled the super hot motor and put in a decent 1275 for the sale. From bertshirey at zoominternet.net Thu Mar 31 12:22:05 2011 From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:22:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bearings Follow up 2 Message-ID: Guys and Gals, I haven`t put the pan back on yet, but I finished the new big end rod bearings this afternoon. Here`s what I found: Number 4 shells were worn across about 85% of the surface, yellow metal underlay bleeding through. Numbers 1and 2 were about 50-60 % worn. That wear looked like what I suppose could be normal wear for a 56K mile old car. (Manual says to change bearings at 30K.) None of 1, 2, or 4 showed signs of break-up that would account for the suspected bearing debris found in the filter that started all this. Maybe bad news, I thought because I wanted an explanation for the debris. I did 3 last.The overlay on the bottom 3 shell showed very minor abrasion, but the smooth, shiny overlay material had flaked away over half the surface. There was still a loose piece of the shiny stuff that was just laying on the surface waiting to come out. Top shell was not involved. The relatively small amount of debris I found in the pan was on top of the layer of residue there. I believe the shards were fresh, only recently laid there over the 800 miles the filter was in service. There was no evidence of journal damage, so I hope this was caught in time. Good argument for cutting open the filer once in awhile. Could be that saved me a damaged crank. What caused 3 to fracture like that, I don`t know. It was oily and the oil hole in the journal was apparently clear. Possible it was defective from the start or was not installed properly. Anyway...I`m going to put everything back together tomorrow and see how it goes. One more question: Dealing with that tab lock on the cap bolts is a pain. Is there a reliable alternative ? Maybe lock washers ? I see the 1275 has different rod ends that use bolts and nuts with no tabs. The advice I got from you guys was greatly appreciated. Happy hour starting here. Cheers, Bert Shirey From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 12:22:29 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:22:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Just a minute.... (checks pocket change) Nope. Can't help ya... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html > > Someone buy it for me..... From peter at nosimport.com Thu Mar 31 12:23:26 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:23:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <000601cbefd5$c1cfba80$456f2f80$@net> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <000601cbefd5$c1cfba80$456f2f80$@net> Message-ID: <201103311123895.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Call him up.... he gives his phone number at he end of the video, after he talks heretical about shocks, I must say..... I especially like that he retained the shape of the old taillights, but in steel. Peter == At 01:59 PM 3/31/2011, Heard Saxon wrote: >I like it too. Is there a reason for that hood shape or is it just 'cause >it's cool. > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:28 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... > >http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html > >Someone buy it for me..... From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 31 12:30:40 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <000601cbefd5$c1cfba80$456f2f80$@net> Message-ID: <2101463318.2090549.1301599840875.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Oddball question. Why is the throttle return spring connected to the fender well? Is there an advantage to doing that? -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 31 15:00:52 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:00:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... In-Reply-To: <000601cbefd5$c1cfba80$456f2f80$@net> References: <201103311027787.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <000601cbefd5$c1cfba80$456f2f80$@net> Message-ID: That is assuming that it is cool. I think it is he worst part of the car. I do admire the work he put into it, though. Actually, I think the reason he made the hood (bonnet) open like that is to make it as difficult as possible to do anything with the dizzy. I would have preferred a one piece front-opening front clip. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Heard Saxon Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:59 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I like this... I like it too. Is there a reason for that hood shape or is it just 'cause it's cool. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:28 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] I like this... http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/2217882718.html Someone buy it for me..... Peter C Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Mar 31 16:15:57 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:15:57 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC Message-ID: <20110331.171557.3872.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> >> High of 48 today, 2" snow tonight.... loverly in Madtown WI >And just south of you in loverly Des Plaines, IL, we are supposed to >have a high of 46 but no snow. Bicycle season is trying to get >underway! >David L Blizzard conditions, 18" of snow since Monday, 30-50 mph winds, Had to plow the road this morning to get out. CO Continental Divide-8800' elevation, and hoping for some quiet soon (no Wind). Mark Haynes HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4d950b3e309f346e4cdst04duc From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 31 16:29:25 2011 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:29:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] music - no lbc Message-ID: One of my favourite dvds is on youtube. 2 of my favourite songs from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egbgoXZnDIo right around 3:13 you can see that the violinist gets into it. And this is just so well done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvBYXKzNA40 From pchast at francomm.com Thu Mar 31 16:37:27 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:37:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <20110331.171557.3872.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20110331.171557.3872.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: High of 43 today but up to a foot of snow to visit overnight and tomorrow.... Pete On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:15:57 -0400, Mark Haynes wrote: > >>> High of 48 today, 2" snow tonight.... loverly in Madtown WI > >> And just south of you in loverly Des Plaines, IL, we are supposed to >> have a high of 46 but no snow. Bicycle season is trying to get >> underway! >> David L > > Blizzard conditions, 18" of snow since Monday, 30-50 mph winds, Had to > plow > the road this morning to get out. CO Continental Divide-8800' elevation, > and > hoping for some quiet soon (no Wind). > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon.com Official Site > 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4d950b3e309f346e4cdst04duc > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 17:03:46 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 30th Spite Anniversary pix In-Reply-To: <1189C1D0-D152-4C63-AE42-00BC8FAE5353@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <379159.10279.qm@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hey, I'm standing next to Frank! Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Gerard wrote: From: Gerard Subject: [Spridgets] 30th Spite Anniversary pix To: "Spridgets List" , "Bugeye Yahoo Group" , "Midget/Sprite" Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 3:12 PM I've posted a new page on my web site. I think many of you will enjoy seeing the pictures. The link is below and also linked from my "Links" page. A member from another list sent me photos of the 30th Sprite Anniversary in Calisle PA (1988). I'm sure there must be some members here who were there. I have large images linked that show a lot of detail. If you were there and want to identify where you are in the pix, I'll be happy to map and ID your young self...:-) I don't really recognize anyone other than Frank, but I will only do this by request. Please email off list with your info if you are interested. Otherwise, enjoy! http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/30th_versary/30thAnniversary.htm Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Mar 31 17:04:00 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:04:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues Message-ID: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> Went to the GM Truck & Bus assembly plant in Flint, MI today to do some work on one of their video cameras. The camera I worked on is in the corner of a lot with finished vehicles ready for shipping. Wandered over to look at the nearest one. It was a 1 ton crew cab 4 wheel drive GMC with an Allison diesel engine. Nice truck. Took a look at the sticker. HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sticker price - $75,625.00. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Fisk" To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > Same deal with my Silverado pickup and Suburban. Well over 100k and never > an issue. Some guys on this list break anvils.... :-) > > Rick From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 17:07:04 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:07:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] music - no lbc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And for something completely different, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79QMPj9-pg&feature=related will give you a chance to see where I was last weekend; contra-dancing in Covington, KY to the music of the Syncopaths, a California-based Celtic band, and the calling of Gaye Fifer. The only unhappy people were the ones who weren't there. David L (green shirt near the beginning) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 17:26:39 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:26:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> References: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> Message-ID: Yeah, I can see them selling alot of those in this economy On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Went to the GM Truck & Bus assembly plant in Flint, MI today to do some > work on one of their video cameras. The camera I worked on is in the corner > of a lot with finished vehicles ready for shipping. Wandered over to look > at the nearest one. It was a 1 ton crew cab 4 wheel drive GMC with an > Allison diesel engine. Nice truck. Took a look at the sticker. HOLY > CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Sticker price - $75,625.00. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Fisk" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > > > Same deal with my Silverado pickup and Suburban. Well over 100k and never >> an issue. Some guys on this list break anvils.... :-) >> >> Rick >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 17:27:25 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:27:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sorry, I thought this was funny. NO LBC CONTENT Message-ID: http://xkcd.com/879/ -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Mar 31 17:32:07 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:32:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> References: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> Message-ID: Maybe this is why the rebels in Libya are driving Toyoters? ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:04 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues Went to the GM Truck & Bus assembly plant in Flint, MI today to do some work on one of their video cameras. The camera I worked on is in the corner of a lot with finished vehicles ready for shipping. Wandered over to look at the nearest one. It was a 1 ton crew cab 4 wheel drive GMC with an Allison diesel engine. Nice truck. Took a look at the sticker. HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sticker price - $75,625.00. From george.brokaw at cox.net Thu Mar 31 17:36:05 2011 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:36:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Sorry, I thought this was funny. NO LBC CONTENT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01a901cbf004$c93796b0$5ba6c410$@brokaw@cox.net> Donbt forget to bhoverb the cursor over the comicb& sometimes that comment is even funnier than the comic! Paul From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:27 PM To: Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [midgetsprite] Sorry, I thought this was funny. NO LBC CONTENT http://xkcd.com/879/ -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 31 17:38:20 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:38:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> References: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> Message-ID: <8F224458-C5B1-47EB-82AB-09210CDE0C5A@snet.net> Did it have leather? The Cadillac trucks have leather. I'm just sayin'. PS Why is it that Cadillac and Lincoln make trucks? Jay -An iPhone communication- On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:04 PM, "Rick Fisk" wrote: It was a 1 ton crew cab 4 wheel drive GMC with an Allison diesel engine. Nice truck. Took a look at the sticker. HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Sticker price - $75,625.00. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Mar 31 17:53:52 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:53:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> Message-ID: <5D866BF9-AAFD-49F9-AB16-3EB481D49E10@comcast.net> What they're going to do is what they did back in '06. In about 8- 10 months the 2011's will be going for 0 interest with a hefty discount. The 0 interest is already in place.. Lester On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:32 PM, wrote: > Maybe this is why the rebels in Libya are driving Toyoters? > > ====================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:04 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > > Went to the GM Truck & Bus assembly plant in Flint, MI today to do some work > > on one of their video cameras. The camera I worked on is in the corner of a > > lot with finished vehicles ready for shipping. Wandered over to look at the > > nearest one. It was a 1 ton crew cab 4 wheel drive GMC with an Allison > diesel engine. Nice truck. Took a look at the sticker. HOLY > CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Sticker price - $75,625.00. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 18:07:08 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:07:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <8F224458-C5B1-47EB-82AB-09210CDE0C5A@snet.net> References: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> <8F224458-C5B1-47EB-82AB-09210CDE0C5A@snet.net> Message-ID: > Did it have leather? The Cadillac trucks have leather. I'm just sayin'. > PS Why is it that Cadillac and Lincoln make trucks? And why does anyone buy them? David L From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Mar 31 18:10:45 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:10:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] music - no lbc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c4a79$bk794a@email.mtu.edu> I'll ask this before Robert Duquette because I know he will. Contra-dancing because they don't make clogging sandals??? At 08:07 PM 3/31/2011, David Lieb wrote: >And for something completely different, >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79QMPj9-pg&feature=related >will give you a chance to see where I was last weekend; contra-dancing Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Mar 31 18:12:16 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:12:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <8F224458-C5B1-47EB-82AB-09210CDE0C5A@snet.net> References: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> <8F224458-C5B1-47EB-82AB-09210CDE0C5A@snet.net> Message-ID: The have a niche? Americans are an easy sell for upmarket stuff?? ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:38 PM To: Rick Fisk Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues Did it have leather? The Cadillac trucks have leather. I'm just sayin'. PS Why is it that Cadillac and Lincoln make trucks? Jay -An iPhone communication- ========================================= On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:04 PM, "Rick Fisk" wrote: It was a 1 ton crew cab 4 wheel drive GMC with an Allison diesel engine. Nice truck. Took a look at the sticker. HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Sticker price - $75,625.00. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 18:29:31 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:29:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] music - no lbc In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$bk794a@email.mtu.edu> References: <9c4a79$bk794a@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: > I'll ask this before Robert Duquette because I know he will. > Contra-dancing because they don't make clogging sandals??? Contra-dancing because it is hard to make much noise when you clog in bare feet ;-) Besides, I value my knees too much to clog. David L From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Mar 31 18:41:02 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:41:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] music - no lbc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F9C918F13424A52BD75164AD63161DA@blackbox2> Brings back memories of these folks... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUgF49Rtg7Q&feature=related -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:29 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] music - no lbc One of my favourite dvds is on youtube. 2 of my favourite songs from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egbgoXZnDIo right around 3:13 you can see that the violinist gets into it. And this is just so well done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvBYXKzNA40 From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Mar 31 18:44:32 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: References: <6A53AFC69BEF409188F2EC7D36080A74@RickPC> <8F224458-C5B1-47EB-82AB-09210CDE0C5A@snet.net> Message-ID: <250489.76967.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> David, 'll take a stab at it....The demographic is weekend warriors who need to power through their town centers in something tall to toss a bag of fertilizer in the back and head on back to their acre or two parcel, survey the scene while rolling a toothpick in their mouth and decide what setting to use on the spreader. It's similar to, but a different social strata, to the gold chain guys who used to pass you in traffic in Firebirds and Corvettes (Now Camaros, Challengers, and Vettes) where the only thiing visible through the driver's window is a large bicep. I'll wait before describing the Suburban, Expedition, Escalade profile? jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> To: Spridgets Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 9:07:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > Did it have leather? The Cadillac trucks have leather. I'm just sayin'. > PS Why is it that Cadillac and Lincoln make trucks? And why does anyone buy them? David L From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 18:52:20 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <201103310621429.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <796262.66059.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Been top off all week, loving it, earmuffs on. --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Peter Caldwell wrote: From: Peter Caldwell Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 9:21 AM High of 48 today, 2" snow tonight.... loverly in Madtown WI Peter --- At 11:51 AM 3/30/2011, Robert Duquette wrote: >It's 46 degrees here and it's beautiful. We're not spoiled yet by 'hot' >weather. > >Robert D Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Mar 31 19:14:39 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 02:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <589731506.1377519.1301624025914.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1691040788.1377529.1301624079363.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> My guess would be as a status symbol. A way of letting their "friends" know that THEY don't need to worry about the price of fuel or the cost of their vehicle. They also have a big honkin' vehicle that looks like a truck, sounds like a truck and, could conceivably actually be used as a truck, although it probably never will be. They also want the comfort of a luxury car, as that is what people in their social circles are expected to own. 99% of these things will probably never be driven off road or in 4WD. The other 1% will make an annual trip to the Christmas tree farm to bring home the family tree and demonstrate to the neighbors that Daddy is macho. The family camping trip, for which they desperately need a 4WD, will consist of a week or two at a luxury resort or a 5 star hotel near a recreation area. Scheduled tours in commercial vehicles will save wear & tear on the family truck, plus make sure that an appropriate lunch is provided, without Mother needing to soil her hands by preparing it. Creature comfort is paramount for these people. Personally, I think that children who are allowed to grow up without spending several hours getting beaten to death driving down a single lane goat trail and camping where there is no grocery store on the next corner, and cell service is a figment of one's imagination, are deprived of an important element that can shape their adult perspectives. These are the folks who can afford to run for major elective office. Does this explain part of what is rotten in DC? JMHO, Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:07:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues > Did it have leather? The Cadillac trucks have leather. I'm just sayin'. > PS Why is it that Cadillac and Lincoln make trucks? And why does anyone buy them? David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Mar 31 19:30:47 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 02:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <1075607017.1377777.1301624926680.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <46729203.1377838.1301625047445.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Our 1947 GMC farm truck had leather seats. The seats looked great long after the truck had been beaten to death by using it for what it was intended to be used for. I don't really have a problem with leather seats in a truck. Heated, 20 way power leather seats, with automatic position memory are another story, as is enough chrome for the reflection to be seen from space, and headlights that can only be changed by the dealer at $1,000 a pop. Don't get me started on ride comfort - do you want a truck, or a luxury highway cruiser? I'm pretty much with Frank on this subject. I want a dependable, simple engine and a manual transmission. I happen to both need and use 4WD, but most truck buyers don't. I like my old Jeeps, because the old Rambler in-line 6 was one of the strongest engines of its day, and Jeep has only made it better by beefing it up and adding FI. I am a long time Chrysler fan, but am willing to admit that this is one of the few things the company has done right in recent years. I'm old now, and have bad shoulders, so power steering is a nice item to have. I have AC simply because it came with the truck. I would have been just as happy without it. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Fishbein" To: "Rick Fisk" Cc: "" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:38:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues Did it have leather? The Cadillac trucks have leather. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Mar 31 19:59:51 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:59:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <1691040788.1377529.1301624079363.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1691040788.1377529.1301624079363.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4D953FA7.7090500@tx.rr.com> I never understood the desire of the average person to have a truck (or SUV for that matter). If you need a truck, then buy a truck. If you need an SUV then buy an SUV. If you don't need either one then buy a car. A car would be more comfortable, faster, safer, more economical, etc. If economical isn't important then just buy a more expensive car to start with. My daughter is a college student, she never carries anything more than a backpack, but she has always wanted a truck. In our metropolitan area we have a lot of people that buy trucks and SUV's, and have no use for them except that it is something that they want. There was a time when I needed a pickup and I owned one, now I don't. At one time I also owned a minivan. My wife drives an SUV everyday, but besides the fact that she carries a lot of stuff in it, we also take it offroad frequently. We've probably been offroad on vacation in Colorado and Utah almost a dozen times. > My guess would be as a status symbol. A way of letting their "friends" know that THEY don't need to worry about the price of fuel or the cost of their vehicle. They also have a big honkin' vehicle that looks like a truck, sounds like a truck and, could conceivably actually be used as a truck, although it probably never will be. From shop at justbrits.com Thu Mar 31 20:02:56 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:02:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weather - no LBC In-Reply-To: <796262.66059.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <796262.66059.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D954060.5040704@justbrits.com> << Been top off all week, loving it, earmuffs on. >> But yer almost a 'southerner', 'Hopper !!!! Oh yeah, the cNet Link DOES have PPP's DREAM CAR !!!! LAD From shop at justbrits.com Thu Mar 31 20:22:32 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:22:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WHERE was................... Message-ID: <4D9544F8.2060701@justbrits.com> ......this link when it was WHITE stuff up to our.............................s?? *ht*tp://tinyurl.com/4uta8qh or* * http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-10863_7-10004657.html?s=0&o=10004657&tag=mncol;page cNet 'reported' these "cars" are the "funniest ever" and page IS titled "LOL" !!! A couple, maybe ?!? ENJOY !!! _______________________________________________ 9issa mailing list 9issa at box267.bluehost.com http://box267.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/9issa_justbrits.com http://www.justbrits.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Mar 31 20:22:33 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 03:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <141324862.2096911.1301628153063.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> It's the badge, man... it's the badge!! (I don't need no stinkin badge!) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig ,59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> And why does anyone buy them? David L _ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 20:24:41 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <1691040788.1377529.1301624079363.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <40702.36638.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 3/31/11, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > My guess would be as a status symbol. There are quite a few farms here. There is a pig farmer 3 miles or so down the road who happens to be a great guy and he has one, a black Cadillac whatever it's called. He gave me a ride home in it a few years ago when my Sprite blew out a tire and I had taken the spare out the night before. He's a nice gentleman who has been ill recently. I'm pretty sure he got the truck because he likes it and really doesn't give a shit what other people think. Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 21:45:15 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:45:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 GMC Hassles and Issues In-Reply-To: <40702.36638.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1691040788.1377529.1301624079363.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <40702.36638.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Next it will be the vehicle Nazis telling us which car/truck/SUV we can own.... On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Thu, 3/31/11, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote: > > My guess would be as a status symbol. > > There are quite a few farms here. There is a pig farmer 3 miles or so down > the road who happens to be a great guy and he has one, a black Cadillac > whatever it's called. He gave me a ride home in it a few years ago when my > Sprite blew out a tire and I had taken the spare out the night before. He's > a nice gentleman who has been ill recently. I'm pretty sure he got the truck > because he likes it and really doesn't give a shit what other people think. > > Ron > Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org