From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 09:55:07 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 08:55:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: In my experience, especially at any public building that really has to stick to the 'code' and the law, it seems to take 2 or 3 flushes to get the job done. How in the world does this "save" anything? There are separate urinals generally in at least half the bathrooms so this only applies to the throne where there's usually more than a little liquid in question. At 2 gallons it used to take one pull of the handle, at 1.28 or 1.6 gallons times 2 or 3 flushes it's definitely not doing what was intended. Maybe it averages out, I couldn't say. It just seems like another knee jerk regulation that sounded good when it was adopted but is possibly doing more harm than good in the long run. The problem IMHO is bureaucracy, not bringing any one ideology into focus here just the bureaucrats who seem to go straight from college to government with no life experience getting in their way. They are bureaucrats because they want to make a difference (many of them have the best intentions) and they think the best way to do that is to write and push regulations that will "make a real change"... Many of them seem to have no real political ideology - they just want to "help" us by telling us how much water we can use per flush, how many sheets of TP we can use to wipe, how long the water in the sink can run to wash our hands, what kind of soap can be in the dispensers, what kind of light bulbs we can use to be able to see, how much ethanol we have to have in our gas, what kind of paint we can use to paint our cars, the list goes on and on. Regulations to control pollutants can cause other types of pollution? Who woulda thunk? Oh wait, they could ask chemists and engineers what the effect of their meddling might be before putting it into law? The people in these positions persist through election cycles, they are the basis of our government personnel infrastructure and "we couldn't get by without them". Apparently. Ever see the movie "Brazil"? Tuttle? Buttle? What's the difference? "We're all in this together kid" I think some of the ill feeling towards any one side or the other ideologically is actually caused by the nameless, faceless bureaucrats who are actually instigating the changes that make us angry. Having no real connection to the party that's in power this can and does happen all the time, so we always look at the people we think are in power (the figureheads) as being the culprits when it's the minions who are actually in charge. Talk about term limits? I want limits on the bureaucrats! Rick Bastedo __________________________________ From: Bug Eye Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Our government mandated smaller toilets that flush with 1.6 gallons of water. The first ones didnb t work well and were always plugging and now some sewer districts are having problems with not having enough water in the pipes to wash the solids down. Some of the conservation plans arenb t very thought out. B Bill W From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 10:26:49 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:26:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Message-ID: On older toilet tanks you could adjust the float level and control the amount of water that fills the tank. Instead of letting people adjust their own tanks (personal responsibility) the government feels the need to mandate such things. Water here is good and cheap. Down the road in New Orleans water tastes terrible (drawn from river instead of Artesian wells). I can understand that there are places where there are too many people and not enough good water but I would prefer to pay for what I use and use what I want. The water eventually gets recycled anyway. Flushing 2 gallons instead of 1 gallon is fine with me if it does the job and I pay for the water. I might install a more efficient toilet but I would not want to sacrifice performance. The appeal to me would be that I pay less for water. But, if it doesn't work well then there is no appeal to me. I don't think the government should mandate things that do not work as well. From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Jun 1 10:43:03 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:43:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again References: Message-ID: <89B6FA77AF9B4C5A8F76DD45C8163530@CGI.COMMTECH> Like "open season"? > Talk about term limits? I want limits on the bureaucrats! > > Rick From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Wed Jun 1 10:57:30 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <89B6FA77AF9B4C5A8F76DD45C8163530@CGI.COMMTECH> References: <89B6FA77AF9B4C5A8F76DD45C8163530@CGI.COMMTECH> Message-ID: <901688.49737.qm@web112709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> No limit. ________________________________ From: Mark Endicott To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 9:43:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Like "open season"? > Talk about term limits? I want limits on the bureaucrats! > > Rick _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 1 11:00:08 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: No, but people still say 'have you pulled the chain'. In a message dated 31/05/2011 21:36:27 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Do you guys still have overhead tanks? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 1 11:25:10 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:25:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <89B6FA77AF9B4C5A8F76DD45C8163530@CGI.COMMTECH> References: <89B6FA77AF9B4C5A8F76DD45C8163530@CGI.COMMTECH> Message-ID: <634DA8E3DCDB43339EAA9394E69685E1@HomePC> > Talk about term limits? I want limits on the bureaucrats! > > Rick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We already have term limits; we call them elections. If he/she is no good, don't vote for them! The problem with term limits is you throw out the good with the bad. How appropriate that that this would be mentioned at a time when the unintended, but negative, consequences of our actions regarding toilet tanks was being discussed. Good intentions, but not particularly well thought out. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 11:25:19 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:25:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: They also say "dial this phone number" ------Original Message------ From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: derf247 at gmail.com Cc: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Sent: Jun 1, 2011 1:00 PM No, but people still say 'have you pulled the chain'. In a message dated 31/05/2011 21:36:27 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Do you guys still have overhead tanks? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 1 11:26:38 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: Good point! In a message dated 01/06/2011 01:38:44 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: We can buy a generator, put it up on top of a stick, the FREE wind powers the generator, and we sell the electricity. No smoke to clean, no uranium to store. Why is this not cheaper? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 1 11:30:14 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: But the nuclear plant is probably more than a couple of thousand times more expensive to start off with. I think you also have to consider the de-commissioning cost of the Nuclear power plant. In the UK you can get a wind turbine that will meet the need of a household's electric though I guess to be self sufficient you'd want solar panels as well. In a message dated 01/06/2011 02:09:04 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: It would take a couple thousand big generators on a stick to power the same grid as a small nuclear reactor. Then the wind would have to blow constantly. I wonder how big a big generator on a stick would need to be to power the average American home. As of now, big generators on a stick are not cheap, either. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jun 1 12:02:45 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:02:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE67EC5.8020806@justbrits.com> << I don't think the government should mandate things that do not work as well. >> The government shouldn't "mandate" anything THEY can't PAY for. ! ! Me From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 12:02:51 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:02:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Message-ID: Well over 90% of government is staffed by unelected and mostly IMHO unaccountable minions. (I believe that estimate is conservative) These are the bureaucrats of which I mutter. They are not sacked and sent packing whenever elections go one way or the other, many of them have 40 to 50 year careers they are working towards and due to the older pension rules when they eventually do retire they do so at or near to 100% of their highest income level plus mandated 3% per year COLA (if not more). For the record, when I said "limits" I did not mean "bag limits", "daily limits", "season limits", "species limits" or any other that might infer the collection and showing of trophies or dressage. The peaceful use of words can often produce better results than the angry use of violence. _______________________________ From: "Larry Daniels" Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 12:25:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again We already have term limits; we call them elections. If he/she is no good, don't vote for them! The problem with term limits is you throw out the good with the bad. How appropriate that that this would be mentioned at a time when the unintended, but negative, consequences of our actions regarding toilet tanks was being discussed. Good intentions, but not particularly well thought out. From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Jun 1 12:11:00 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:11:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye battery pic please Message-ID: <09e601cc2087$4389f450$ca9ddcf0$@net> Can someone please send me a pic of the battery clamp in action? I have the clamp and one J-bolt but I have no idea what holds the other side. It looks like it needs 2 J-bolts, but the catalogs say 1. Thanks, Heard From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jun 1 12:29:48 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:29:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye battery pic please In-Reply-To: <09e601cc2087$4389f450$ca9ddcf0$@net> References: <09e601cc2087$4389f450$ca9ddcf0$@net> Message-ID: <5797C09C-9F36-45F2-80C8-98A4F1881E17@snet.net> You need two. Jay -An iPhone communication- On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "Heard Saxon" wrote: > Can someone please send me a pic of the battery clamp in action? I have the > clamp and one J-bolt but I have no idea what holds the other side. It looks > like it needs 2 J-bolts, but the catalogs say 1. From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 13:03:08 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 15:03:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My preferred toilet for quality flushes http://www.totousa.com/Products/Toilets.aspx -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:26 PM, derf wrote: > On older toilet tanks you could adjust the float level and control the > amount of water that fills the tank. Instead of letting people adjust > their own tanks (personal responsibility) the government feels the > need to mandate such things. Water here is good and cheap. Down > the road in New Orleans water tastes terrible (drawn from river > instead of Artesian wells). > I can understand that there are places where there are too many people > and not enough good water but I would prefer to pay for what I use and > use what I want. The water eventually gets recycled anyway. Flushing > 2 gallons instead of 1 gallon is fine with me if it does the job and I > pay for the water. I might install a more efficient toilet but I > would not want to sacrifice performance. The appeal to me would be > that I pay less for water. But, if it doesn't work well then there is > no appeal to me. I don't think the government should mandate things > that do not work as well. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 1 13:09:16 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:09:16 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: Wind energy again Message-ID: I don't know why we are bothering with investing in wind farm technolgy , wave power or solar. In fact I don't understand why the guys in the late 1800s ever bothered with elecrricity at all cos it was way too expensive for the ordinary . Renewable candles and animal fat oil lamps were ok and didn't need any investment to get them cheaper. Nah lets have a nuke power station in every city and town cos oil and coal ain't going to last for ever and until they spend money on cleaning up the emissions instead of polluting the atmosphere . China is doing fine in that aspect. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 1 13:45:33 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 12:45:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > preferred toilet Even the 1.28GPF? I just got a new Kohler. They brag about their strong flush. They lie. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 1 13:57:53 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 12:57:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: Wind energy again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Renewable candles and animal fat oil lamps What about the animal flatulence factor? > coal ain't going to last for > ever We have enough low sulfur coal to last for several generations if our government would let us mine it. > nuke power > station in every city and town Why not put them in that big empty spot between the Mid-West and the West Coast, maybe next to the coal we can't use. > why the guys in the late > 1800s ever bothered with electricity So we wouldn't have to watch TV in the dark and so music could be too loud. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 1 14:00:11 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:00:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201106011300124.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 02:45 PM 6/1/2011, Billy Zoom wrote: > > preferred toilet >Even the 1.28GPF? >I just got a new Kohler. They brag about their strong flush. >They lie. ============= If you bought it from Home Defect or other box store, you didn't get the "good" Kohler. There is a PROFOUND difference when you buy through a plumbing supply house. Honest, I wouldn't kid you about sh!t Peter C From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed Jun 1 14:40:54 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:40:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> My sister and her husband have a house with about 2500 square feet and all of the usual televisions, refrigerators, airconditioner, etc. They bought electric panels for their roof that will generate almost their average electrical usage. I think they said the panels cost about $8,000. They expect to pay for the cost of the panels in 5 or 6 years. > But the nuclear plant is probably more than a couple of thousand times more > expensive to start off with. I think you also have to consider the > de-commissioning cost of the Nuclear power plant. > > In the UK you can get a wind turbine that will meet the need of a > household's electric though I guess to be self sufficient you'd want solar panels > as well. From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jun 1 14:50:51 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:50:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> Message-ID: <9c4a79$cc2ngt@email.mtu.edu> No thanks needed. I'm happy to help them pay for their solar panels! (roll eyes here). >they said the panels cost about $8,000. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 1 15:02:58 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cc2ngt@email.mtu.edu> References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> <9c4a79$cc2ngt@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <201106011403145.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Me too! And pleased as punch to help the corn farmers and ethanol plants and oil well drillers..... Peter C - At 03:50 PM 6/1/2011, Tim Collins wrote: >No thanks needed. I'm happy to help them pay for their solar panels! >(roll eyes here). > >>they said the panels cost about $8,000. > >Tim Collins From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 1 15:25:09 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 16:25:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cc2ngt@email.mtu.edu> References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> <9c4a79$cc2ngt@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <656DC1B6D3414BC19D630EE53EA0F50A@HomePC> Tim, I don't have any solar panels for you to help pay for, so could you just send me your check direct? ;-) I intend to use the money to recycle beer. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Tim Collins Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:50 PM To: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again No thanks needed. I'm happy to help them pay for their solar panels! (roll eyes here). >they said the panels cost about $8,000. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jun 1 16:03:37 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:03:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <656DC1B6D3414BC19D630EE53EA0F50A@HomePC> References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> <9c4a79$cc2ngt@email.mtu.edu> <656DC1B6D3414BC19D630EE53EA0F50A@HomePC> Message-ID: <9c4a79$cc38hh@email.mtu.edu> What's the return on my investment? Oh, wait. . . . never mind. :-) At 05:25 PM 6/1/2011, Larry Daniels wrote: >Tim, I don't have any solar panels for you to help pay for, so could you >just send me your check direct? ;-) > >I intend to use the money to recycle beer. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 1 16:10:51 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind, toilets, cheese, beer and the 50th Message-ID: <201106011510662.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> We could do a very nice tour from Elkhart Lake that will let you see windmills, a nuke plant, the Kohler headquarters and bath showroom, coal plant, cheese plant, beer plant, brat plant, Trek bicycle plant, and a ship building plant. Actually, several of most of the above. You comin'? Peter C From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jun 1 16:47:56 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:47:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> Message-ID: Not sure if you meant that as a joke or not.. Down here, a set of solar panels will cost $ 25,000 installed. Subtract the Federal tax credit (For residential use only.. and why is that?) and the State tax credit and they only end up costing $ 10,000 installed. Let's see.. at $ 200 per month that's 50 months or 4 years or so. Assuming that I don't need supplemental electricity which I will as .. well.. I turn on things at night like refrigerators and computers and air conditioning etc. So if we break it down, then maybe .. and I'm being generous here.. I get use out of the system 50% of the time during the Summer months so let's double that previous estimate to 8 years or so. Now let's add in some more reality, we have tornados around here and hurricanes hit here every few years as well and bad storms not to mention all of the damn sunshine. Do you have any idea what all of this sunshine does to manmade things??! So let's toss in some 30% of the initial cost. That's another $ 8000..sorry, no subsidizes repair costs.. or another 4 years or so. Again, assuming that our friends in DC don't decide that we are now small scale power companies and start to tax us for every watt we produce just like they do the power companies... hmm.. I'll stick to the large power company that is sticking it to me. SWEPCO. They have a "fuel surcharge" that is frequently equal to the electricity usage costs doubling my electricity bill. If they are having problems why on earth would I want to take the chance of doing their job. Lester On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:40 PM, wrote: > My sister and her husband have a house with about 2500 square feet and all of the usual televisions, refrigerators, airconditioner, etc. They bought electric panels for their roof that will generate almost their average electrical usage. I think they said the panels cost about $8,000. They expect to pay for the cost of the panels in 5 or 6 years. > > >> But the nuclear plant is probably more than a couple of thousand times more >> expensive to start off with. I think you also have to consider the >> de-commissioning cost of the Nuclear power plant. >> >> In the UK you can get a wind turbine that will meet the need of a >> household's electric though I guess to be self sufficient you'd want solar panels >> as well. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jun 1 17:54:33 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:54:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> Message-ID: <4DE6D139.10504@justbrits.com> << Down here, a set of solar panels will cost $ 25,000 installed. >> << Assuming that I don't need supplemental electricity which I will...>> You saying the $25k does NOT include a Battery Bank, Lester ?? Youse gotta be KIDDING ! ? ! Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 18:02:25 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:02:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Patch Message-ID: Thanks. . . I patched the two wires by wrapping a piece of thin copper wire taken off another wire where I broke apart the wire strands to get just a thin piece of wire to wrap around the re-assembly before soldering. This held it in place for the soldering job and gave the solder a bit more to grab on too. The wire ends also had to be cleaned up as they were tarnished and dirty. I used a wire brush on the end of my drill and cleaned up the ends so that they were back to shiny clean before applying the solder. . then followed up with the heat shrink tubing. It must have been a one time shock to the system of some sort as everything is running fine with no further issues. Thanks, Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 18:23:06 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:23:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Overhead Tanks in England Message-ID: The first hotel we stayed in on this recent trip to England had a toilet that had a large handle on it that you would pump to build the water pressure up in order to flush it. (It took me a few seconds to figure it out). All the others had two circles above them in the wall on a plate . . with the smaller circle inside the larger one . half way inside the larger one. You push the larger one for larger things that you might leave behind and the smaller one for any liquids that are left behind. This seemed to be a great way to conserve water. None of them had over head tanks. Same with the French toilets which also give the user two options for flushing. And in France none of those washer things that come up and squirt your rear end. . at least where we stayed. So with the pump model, you sit on the right side of the seat and shift, or pump with your right hand and hope that you do not come upon a roundabout. Kirk From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Wed Jun 1 18:47:03 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> Message-ID: <546717.55366.qm@web112713.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Don't forget the roof. Reroofing aroung solar panels is not easy. Bill W To: spridgets Group Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 3:47:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Not sure if you meant that as a joke or not.. Down here, a set of solar panels will cost $ 25,000 installed. Subtract the Federal tax credit (For residential use only.. and why is that?) and the State tax credit and they only end up costing $ 10,000 installed. Let's see.. at $ 200 per month that's 50 months or 4 years or so. Assuming that I don't need supplemental electricity which I will as .. well.. I turn on things at night like refrigerators and computers and air conditioning etc. So if we break it down, then maybe .. and I'm being generous here.. I get use out of the system 50% of the time during the Summer months so let's double that previous estimate to 8 years or so. Now let's add in some more reality, we have tornados around here and hurricanes hit here every few years as well and bad storms not to mention all of the damn sunshine. Do you have any idea what all of this sunshine does to manmade things??! So let's toss in some 30% of the initial cost. That's another $ 8000..sorry, no subsidizes repair costs.. or another 4 years or so. Again, assuming that our friends in DC don't decide that we are now small scale power companies and start to tax us for every watt we produce just like they do the power companies... hmm.. I'll stick to the large power company that is sticking it to me. SWEPCO. They have a "fuel surcharge" that is frequently equal to the electricity usage costs doubling my electricity bill. If they are having problems why on earth would I want to take the chance of doing their job. Lester On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:40 PM, wrote: > My sister and her husband have a house with about 2500 square feet and all of the usual televisions, refrigerators, airconditioner, etc. They bought electric panels for their roof that will generate almost their average electrical usage. I think they said the panels cost about $8,000. They expect to pay for the cost of the panels in 5 or 6 years. > > >> But the nuclear plant is probably more than a couple of thousand times more >> expensive to start off with. I think you also have to consider the >> de-commissioning cost of the Nuclear power plant. >> >> In the UK you can get a wind turbine that will meet the need of a >> household's electric though I guess to be self sufficient you'd want solar panels >> as well. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From ggilomen at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 19:42:20 2011 From: ggilomen at gmail.com (Gordon Gilomen) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:42:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Message-ID: As I came back from lunch a bunch of the guys yelled for me to come look inside the transport unloading cars for the dealership. Inside was a beautiful freshly restored Red Bugeye heading from the east coast to Sana Barbra, Ca. Hope the new owner gets it out often it's too beautiful to let set. Kathy & I took ours for a 1.5 hour ride tonight. Great time!! From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 19:50:48 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:50:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Overhead Tanks in England In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would use a bidet if available. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 19:51:03 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 01:51:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <546717.55366.qm@web112713.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01><546717.55366.qm@web112713.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You should only put panels on relatively new roofs. Panels are typically guaranteed for 25 years. If all are installed about the same time they could likely need replacement at the same time. I would also guess that in 25 years the panels will be more efficient. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Bug Eye Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:47:03 To: Lester; spridgets Group Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Don't forget the roof. Reroofing aroung solar panels is not easy. Bill W To: spridgets Group Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 3:47:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wind energy again Not sure if you meant that as a joke or not.. Down here, a set of solar panels will cost $ 25,000 installed. Subtract the Federal tax credit (For residential use only.. and why is that?) and the State tax credit and they only end up costing $ 10,000 installed. Let's see.. at $ 200 per month that's 50 months or 4 years or so. Assuming that I don't need supplemental electricity which I will as .. well.. I turn on things at night like refrigerators and computers and air conditioning etc. So if we break it down, then maybe .. and I'm being generous here.. I get use out of the system 50% of the time during the Summer months so let's double that previous estimate to 8 years or so. Now let's add in some more reality, we have tornados around here and hurricanes hit here every few years as well and bad storms not to mention all of the damn sunshine. Do you have any idea what all of this sunshine does to manmade things??! So let's toss in some 30% of the initial cost. That's another $ 8000..sorry, no subsidizes repair costs.. or another 4 years or so. Again, assuming that our friends in DC don't decide that we are now small scale power companies and start to tax us for every watt we produce just like they do the power companies... hmm.. I'll stick to the large power company that is sticking it to me. SWEPCO. They have a "fuel surcharge" that is frequently equal to the electricity usage costs doubling my electricity bill. If they are having problems why on earth would I want to take the chance of doing their job. Lester On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:40 PM, wrote: > My sister and her husband have a house with about 2500 square feet and all of the usual televisions, refrigerators, airconditioner, etc. They bought electric panels for their roof that will generate almost their average electrical usage. I think they said the panels cost about $8,000. They expect to pay for the cost of the panels in 5 or 6 years. > > >> But the nuclear plant is probably more than a couple of thousand times more >> expensive to start off with. I think you also have to consider the >> de-commissioning cost of the Nuclear power plant. >> >> In the UK you can get a wind turbine that will meet the need of a >> household's electric though I guess to be self sufficient you'd want solar panels >> as well. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 1 20:02:29 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:02:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Overhead Tanks in England In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <274A695EDFDA4FDCBD95EDA9356EB96F@spider> here we go.... =========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:51 PM To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Overhead Tanks in England I would use a bidet if available. _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:27:08 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:27:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <4DE67EC5.8020806@justbrits.com> References: <4DE67EC5.8020806@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Of course, the government can't pay for anything. Only we tax payers can. The problem is that the government is dictating where to spend our money. Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << I don't think the government should mandate things that > do not work as well. >> > > > The government shouldn't "mandate" anything THEY can't PAY for. ! ! > > > Me > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Jun 1 20:35:25 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 02:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1798260515.11818.1306982125665.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I keep getting this feeling that someone is picking my pocket... Must be paranoia... -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Of course, the government can't pay for anything. Only we tax payers can. The problem is that the government is dictating where to spend our money. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:40:57 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:40:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. Message-ID: I just wish they would spend it wisely. It makes me angry when they say a cell phone is a necessity and if you can't afford one you get one free. A cell phone is a luxury. They could use that money to help people who don't have jobs find work instead of pretending like a cell phone is necessary to get a job. The sense of entitlement is out of control in this country. Free cell phones, steak and seafood on welfare, it is unbelievable. A helping hand is humane but giving stuff to people who think they deserve it is generating trouble. Alcohol and tobacco are luxuries, too. Seeing people use welfare to buy steak, shrimp, ice cream, and other luxurious items and then whip out cash to pay for cigarettes and alcohol is just saddening. On top of it they think they deserve it and the government owes them support. Meanwhile they drive a much newer vehicle than I do and pay way less taxes. I don't hate the poor or those less fortunate than me but I do not like supporting other peoples' warped values and poor judgment. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:52:46 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:52:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind energy again In-Reply-To: <20110602015648.55B0A1879A5@autox.team.net> References: <20110601204054.ZT7HV.175303.root@cdptpa-web10-z01> <546717.55366.qm@web112713.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110602015648.55B0A1879A5@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Put 'em on your neighbor's roof while he's on vacation... Cheers!! Red Green On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:51 PM, wrote: > You should only put panels on relatively new roofs. Panels are typically > guaranteed for 25 years. If all are installed about the same time they could > likely need replacement at the same time. > > I would also guess that in 25 years the panels will be more efficient. > > Steve From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:55:12 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:55:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <1798260515.11818.1306982125665.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1798260515.11818.1306982125665.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > Must be paranoia... > Those damned Greeks!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:57:48 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:57:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:40 PM, derf wrote: > > I don't hate the poor or those less fortunate than me but I do not > like supporting other peoples' warped values and poor judgment. > And in no time at all those people will be the majority at the polls..... -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 21:02:26 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 22:02:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think they already are/were. > > And in no time at all those people will be the majority at the polls..... > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jun 1 21:14:10 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 22:14:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Patch References: Message-ID: <271A92EBC26140429128044CA27909F0@personal> Prob just an old weak fuse. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Patch > Thanks. . . > > > I patched the two wires by wrapping a piece of thin copper wire taken off > another wire where I broke apart the wire strands to get just a thin piece > of wire to wrap around the re-assembly before soldering. This held it in > place for the soldering job and gave the solder a bit more to grab on too. > > The wire ends also had to be cleaned up as they were tarnished and dirty. > I > used a wire brush on the end of my drill and cleaned up the ends so that > they were back to shiny clean before applying the solder. . then followed > up with the heat shrink tubing. > > It must have been a one time shock to the system of some sort as > everything > is running fine with no further issues. > > > Thanks, > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3673 - Release Date: 06/01/11 From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jun 1 21:37:06 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (R.B. Evans) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:37:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83771619BCCF43F2AC8F88E130D9B94E@BusterPC> Jim Johnson wrote: "And in no time at all those people will be the majority at the polls....." You really are living in the historic past. It is too late. Just check the 2008 election results! RBE From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jun 1 21:49:14 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:49:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <4DE67EC5.8020806@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1E85E3C5D4B741FFB503BA66940B654F@Home> > Of course, the government can't pay for anything. Only we tax payers can. > The problem is that the government is dictating where to spend our money. If the government had to pay for the laws it made, then the politicians would have to raise taxes for each new law or regulation. Then everyone would understand the cost. It is not difficult to figure out what would happen then. Michael Rowe From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 21:51:20 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 22:51:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: <83771619BCCF43F2AC8F88E130D9B94E@BusterPC> References: <83771619BCCF43F2AC8F88E130D9B94E@BusterPC> Message-ID: IMO neither side nominated a great leader. When Oprah calls one a "messiah", though, it makes me wonder what they were expecting and if those that voted for Obama got what they wanted. I wonder how many people take Oprah's word as gospel and vote accordingly. Whatever happens, if the dems carry the next election or not I am worried about the next few years. I really don't like people with free, lifetime, premium, extra special health care voting on health care issues that affect everyone else and not them. Make them share the same plan as everyone else and maybe they can come up with something good. From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jun 1 22:02:15 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (R.B. Evans) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:02:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Do your part for America Message-ID: Put a black box in your car! http://autos.aol.com/article/tax-per-mile/?icid=main|hp-desktop|dl7|sec1_lnk1 |214788 You will see that California has raised its gasoline tax from 7 cents a gallon to 18 cents. But California still has the highest cost for damage caused by potholes etc. The legislature, you see, raids that road tax money to fund their favorite boondoggles. Any other questions why California is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy? From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 22:40:34 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:40:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <1E85E3C5D4B741FFB503BA66940B654F@Home> References: <4DE67EC5.8020806@justbrits.com> <1E85E3C5D4B741FFB503BA66940B654F@Home> Message-ID: Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, wars. Hal On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Of course, the government can't pay for anything. Only we tax payers can. >> The problem is that the government is dictating where to spend our money. >> > > If the government had to pay for the laws it made, then the politicians > would have to raise taxes for each new law or regulation. Then everyone > would understand the cost. It is not difficult to figure out what would > happen then. > > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Jun 1 22:47:58 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 04:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, wars. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 06:37:05 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:37:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: <83771619BCCF43F2AC8F88E130D9B94E@BusterPC> Message-ID: Once again, you are a wealth of misinformation. Their coverage is not free, it is not lifetime and it is no different than any other federal employee. It's no wonder some of you people continually rant about government -- you have no clue of what you are talking about. But then, they say ignorance is bliss. -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:51 PM To: R.B. Evans Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. I really don't like people with free, lifetime, premium, extra special health care voting on health care issues that affect everyone else and not them. Make them share the same plan as everyone else and maybe they can come up with something good. _______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 06:52:35 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:52:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I have heard war described as when young men die to fight old men's battles. And when it is over, we don't find who was right -- only who is left. The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to pay for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. -----Original Message----- From: Dave KK7SS Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, wars. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 07:41:43 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:41:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: <83771619BCCF43F2AC8F88E130D9B94E@BusterPC> Message-ID: OK. Once again, I sit corrected. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Once again, you are a wealth of misinformation. Their coverage is not free, > it is not lifetime and it is no different than any other federal employee. > > It's no wonder some of you people continually rant about government -- you > have no clue of what you are talking about. But then, they say ignorance is > bliss. From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 2 07:57:51 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> But it's a whole lot cheaper than what's available to me !! If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me. Hmmm... I never new I was ignorant. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" Once again, you are a wealth of misinformation. Their coverage is not free, it is not lifetime and it is no different than any other federal employee. It's no wonder some of you people continually rant about government -- you have no clue of what you are talking about. But then, they say ignorance is bliss. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 08:00:45 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to pay > for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, > the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was > Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. > So, what has Oprah's messiah done to fix this? Clinton takes credit for the prosperity during his administration that was set on track previous to it. He cleverly steered the ship that was set in motion by his predecessors. You can't have it both ways. Obama may not have started it but here we are in the middle of it and in the middle of his term. I don't blame Obama for problems, only his lack of solutions. "It's the economy, stupid." So far, Obama's change has not been positive for me or, IMO, the country. Who's on deck for 2012? From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 08:02:22 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:02:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Wind energy again!! Message-ID: I've been trying to avoid getting into this but just can't seem to! The main reason we have these big wind farms is so that people that drive by can get a warm fuzzy feeling that we are actually doing something positive about our energy future! Don't get me wrong---I'm in favor of wind energy but the real power [and problem!] is with the big energy companies. Of the many renewable forms of energy, wind isn't that great since it seldom blows at cost effective rates. Pete hit on the main problem though. Big energy taking out the small municipal power dams nation wide!!! Big energy got that way by being subsidised and with sweetheart deals. Making power in huge power plants and shipping it across the country with up to 50% transmission loss only makes sense if you are the big company that is benefiting from it. Put the true costs on big energy and there will be lots more renewables. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 08:04:06 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:04:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I don't mind being a "was ignorant". I like to base my opinions on facts. Turns out Congress has a very good plan, but not the best, and not free. Still the people should probably have what Congress has when it comes to health care. Any gap is probably unacceptable. Otherwise you have the elite voting on stuff for the plebeians. Wait, that is what we have. From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jun 2 08:20:22 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:20:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > The last administration started two wars But we know the reason: "God told me to do it." How can that be wrong? And soon we may have a candidate for First Bimbo. Michael Rowe From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Jun 2 08:34:04 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:34:04 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh Message-ID: <20110602.083404.8639.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> OK, I'll weigh in now. I just put the engine back into the MKII after 15 years, transmission included. Did a clutch on the BE July 1 last year. the engine/trans install is easier in the BE because you don't have the front apron in the way (in front of the radiator), but you do have the option of removing the bonnet. With the MKII, everything was dry, so I put the driveshaft into the tunnel before putting the engine/tranny in, had to drop the rear of the engine by ~ 6" on the hoist and still had to do a bit of fiddling to squeeze the trans by the heater box. Did it all by myself and it was in in around an hour. With the BE, everything was full, the worst part was getting the driveshaft down the tunnel without hanging up on things, otherwise it was about the same with the exception of needing more lift on the bonnet (I left it attached to the supports). As someone said, aligning the bolts that go up into the trans mount is tough, I used a lady slipper to feel for the edges of the threads and then moved the trans in the direction of the most protruding edge- not too bad, just don't tighten ANYTHING until all of the bolts are started. The MKII is SOOO close to running now, I'm chomping at the bit. Last night I found that i had to put the carbs onto the 1100 intake manifold that I had (didn't even know I had one) so that it fits with the LCB header, while I had it apart, I had (?) to radius all of the internal edges and then taper the insulators to ease the transition to the intake-I hate sharp changes in flow diameters). It should be running this weekend, only one week behind schedule! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Hello David, I've been waiting for you to weigh in on this debate... I've done it both ways too. It's a pain to get all the bolts back in the bell housing, but no more pain than trying to slide the whole works in and line up the bolts under the car into the tranny. ..... Also, BE's ARE different than Square Bodied Cars. I've never done either in a BE. 10 of one kind, half score of another.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Be nice to your kids. They will choose your nursing home. ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4de79faf842162a37edst01duc From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jun 2 08:53:33 2011 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (cshelden) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:53:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Wind energy again!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since Oklahoma is sandwiched between Texas and Kansas we have lots of wind blowing north or south (that is a joke lighten up). All that said we have many wind farms that churn out power nearly 365, it works here. We don't have power generation on dams here, we don't have any nuclear plants. We do have lots of wind and natural gas though. To say that wind isn't viable is like me saying power from rivers isn't based on the fact we don't have rivers like you have in the NE and other parts of the country. I do know there is a large start up cost, I do know it takes a while to get transmission lines ran to the farm in some cases. I also know I'm not an expert in these matters and only know what I see in many cases. Ok time to go get that 74 Midget going as the wife isn't pleased it is still idle in the shop and here it is June. Charlie 74 Midget 59 Sprite in pieces From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 09:07:36 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:07:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <840DB93354524F3F85110FF80F470A87@HomePC> Congress recently tried to do just that, Derf. They wanted everybody to have the same plan. Universal health care. Like you, I'm in favor of it. Conservatives bitched like hell about it. I'm surprised you're a fan. -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:04 AM To: Dave KK7SS Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. I don't mind being a "was ignorant". I like to base my opinions on facts. Turns out Congress has a very good plan, but not the best, and not free. Still the people should probably have what Congress has when it comes to health care. Any gap is probably unacceptable. Otherwise you have the elite voting on stuff for the plebeians. Wait, that is what we have. _______________________________________________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 09:19:20 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:19:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <74DC971B-0B2C-4826-8BD9-9F315176B1A3@comcast.net> ... and that would be the last administration with the last Congress in which a young untested non-voting generally public servant (HAH!) voted for this?? That uhh.. Democrat controlled one?? Lester On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I have heard war described as when young men die to fight old men's battles. > And when it is over, we don't find who was right -- only who is left. > > The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to pay > for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, > the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was > Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave KK7SS > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who > start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. > Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, > pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > > Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to > engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the > politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, > wars. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From biffjones at verizon.net Thu Jun 2 09:29:29 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:29:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. References: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <840DB93354524F3F85110FF80F470A87@HomePC> Message-ID: <482D1A6F07A7427C83773B6E8C4A51D8@dell1> The 'real' problem here is that like all big institutions the fact that the USA is a Republic not a Democracy has been lost. From a61bugeye at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 09:32:35 2011 From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: <840DB93354524F3F85110FF80F470A87@HomePC> References: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <840DB93354524F3F85110FF80F470A87@HomePC> Message-ID: <216737.52025.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Wasnbt Congress exempt from that plan? B Bill W ________________________________ From: Larry Daniels To: derf ; Dave KK7SS Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:07:36 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. Congress recently tried to do just that, Derf.B They wanted everybody to have the same plan.B Universal health care.B Like you, I'm in favor of it. Conservatives bitched like hell about it.B I'm surprised you're a fan. -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:04 AM To: Dave KK7SS Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. I don't mind being a "was ignorant".B I like to base my opinions on facts. Turns out Congress has a very good plan, but not the best, and not free. Still the people should probably have what Congress has when it comes to health care.B Any gap is probably unacceptable.B Otherwise you have the elite voting on stuff for the plebeians.B Wait, that is what we have. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/a61bugeye at yahoo.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 09:42:13 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:42:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <74DC971B-0B2C-4826-8BD9-9F315176B1A3@comcast.net> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <74DC971B-0B2C-4826-8BD9-9F315176B1A3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <53D07EBB6D3B4597B38D1772720856FD@HomePC> Nice try, Lester, but wrong. Both wars were started during GWB's first term -- when both Congress and the Senate plus the White House were controlled by Republicans. There were three major tax cuts during Bush's time: EGTRRA of 2001, JCWAA of 2002 and JGTRRA of 2003. All of these also were during his first term when the Republicans controlled the House and Senate. Now go drill some teeth. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:19 AM Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC ... and that would be the last administration with the last Congress in which a young untested non-voting generally public servant (HAH!) voted for this?? That uhh.. Democrat controlled one?? Lester On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I have heard war described as when young men die to fight old men's > battles. > And when it is over, we don't find who was right -- only who is left. > > The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to > pay > for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, > the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was > Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave KK7SS > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who > start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. > Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, > pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > > Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to > engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the > politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, > wars. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 09:50:38 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:50:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rerouting to junk e-mail Message-ID: I wonder if it is possible to reroute e-mail from the Spridgets list into my junk box. Esp. those with "wind" or "toilet" in the subject line. Just sayin'. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 10:05:44 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:05:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <53D07EBB6D3B4597B38D1772720856FD@HomePC> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <74DC971B-0B2C-4826-8BD9-9F315176B1A3@comcast.net> <53D07EBB6D3B4597B38D1772720856FD@HomePC> Message-ID: Ahem.. they were in charge of the House they were not in charge of the Senate... and thank God he put in tax cuts! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Control_of_the_U.S._House_ of_Representatives.PNG http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Control_of_the_U.S._Senate .PNG And I would if only all the stimulus dollars had made a positive effect so that folks would spend some of their money on preventive health care rather than luxury items! ;-) Lester On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Nice try, Lester, but wrong. Both wars were started during GWB's first > term -- when both Congress and the Senate plus the White House were > controlled by Republicans. There were three major tax cuts during Bush's > time: EGTRRA of 2001, JCWAA of 2002 and JGTRRA of 2003. All of these also > were during his first term when the Republicans controlled the House and > Senate. > > Now go drill some teeth. ;-) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:19 AM > Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > ... and that would be the last administration with the last Congress in > which > a young untested non-voting generally public servant (HAH!) voted for this?? > That uhh.. Democrat controlled one?? > > Lester > > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > >> I have heard war described as when young men die to fight old men's >> battles. >> And when it is over, we don't find who was right -- only who is left. >> >> The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to >> pay >> for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, >> the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was >> Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave KK7SS >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM >> To: spridgets_autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC >> >> I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who >> start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. >> Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, >> pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. >> >> -- >> Dave G KK7SS >> DN06ig Richland, WA >> >> '59 Morris Minor 1000 >> '65 Sprite - in process >> '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. >> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hal Faulkner" >> >> >> Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to >> engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the >> politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, >> wars. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From nory1 at roadrunner.com Thu Jun 2 10:07:32 2011 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:07:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rerouting to junk e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110602160732.K90FY.142537.root@hrndva-web06-z02> All this belongs on Ed's PolySci list. ---- Allen Hefner wrote: > I wonder if it is possible to reroute e-mail from the Spridgets list into my > junk box. Esp. those with "wind" or "toilet" in the subject line. > > Just sayin'. > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nory1 at roadrunner.com From homehandy at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 10:14:50 2011 From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:14:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye References: Message-ID: <3145E0C728D344E685578D1E1ECF7738@WOODSTOCK> Gordon, What's the idea cluttering up the list with this Bugeye trivia? Don't you know this list is for Wind Energy and Toilets Flushing? Jeff Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Gilomen" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye > As I came back from lunch a bunch of the guys yelled for me to come > look inside the transport unloading cars for the dealership. Inside > was a beautiful freshly restored Red Bugeye heading from the east > coast to Sana Barbra, Ca. Hope the new owner gets it out often it's > too beautiful to let set. Kathy & I took ours for a 1.5 hour ride > tonight. Great time!! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/homehandy at sbcglobal.net From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jun 2 10:17:41 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Mk II Dash Message-ID: <177292.76208.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have a really nice Sprite Mk II Midget Mk I dash from a HAN6 series car with no extra holes and the radio cut-out intact. If anyone is interested in it, they can have it for $50.00 plus shipping. Please contact me offlist. Some days, ebay just tests the nerves. Thanks, jay From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 10:21:26 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:21:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: <216737.52025.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <840DB93354524F3F85110FF80F470A87@HomePC> <216737.52025.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Why Gee Bill, yes they were .. hmm.. I wonder why no one pointed that out?? ;-) Lester On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Bug Eye wrote: > Wasn't Congress exempt from that plan? > > Bill W From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 10:44:22 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:44:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Overhead Tanks in England In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was hoping to try one myself. . . give it a spin. Hopefully one with warm water and the "splash guard nozzle." On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:50 PM, derf wrote: > I would use a bidet if available. From daredelvis at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:08:14 2011 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:08:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <840DB93354524F3F85110FF80F470A87@HomePC> <216737.52025.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Can you tell me where it is stated that they are exempt from carrying minimum coverage in the plan? Since they already have minimum coverage, members of congress (like everybody else with the minimum coverage) would not be facing any additional requirements. Brian On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Lester wrote: > Why Gee Bill, yes they were .. hmm.. I wonder why no one pointed that out?? > ;-) > > Lester > > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Bug Eye wrote: > > > Wasn' t Congress exempt from that plan? > > > > Bill W > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/daredelvis at gmail.com From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:08:33 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:08:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Wind energy again!! Message-ID: As mentioned to Charlie directly, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against wind power. Its just the fact that it is visible that makes it so prevalent. No one is developing small scale hydro or methane from animal waste or giving them the same subsidy. No one is preventing big energy from taking out power dams but they are subsidising wind power. Kurt. From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jun 2 11:33:18 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:33:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh References: <20110602.083404.8639.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1D5C498CCBF74C61B1EC85E34A37FDC6@personal> Actually once you learn how to do it the tranny bolts from the bottom are easy. Leave the engine and tranny hanging just a bit on the hoist. like 1/8 inch.. Slide under and fit the bolts with one hand and move the tranny/engine with the other as necessary. Peice of cake guys. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Haynes" To: Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] really dumb question, dont laugh > OK, I'll weigh in now. I just put the engine back into the MKII after 15 > years, transmission included. Did a clutch on the BE July 1 last year. the > engine/trans install is easier in the BE because you don't have the front > apron in the way (in front of the radiator), but you do have the option of > removing the bonnet. > With the MKII, everything was dry, so I put the driveshaft into the tunnel > before putting the engine/tranny in, had to drop the rear of the engine by > ~ > 6" on the hoist and still had to do a bit of fiddling to squeeze the trans > by > the heater box. Did it all by myself and it was in in around an hour. > With the BE, everything was full, the worst part was getting the > driveshaft > down the tunnel without hanging up on things, otherwise it was about the > same > with the exception of needing more lift on the bonnet (I left it attached > to > the supports). > As someone said, aligning the bolts that go up into the trans mount is > tough, > I used a lady slipper to feel for the edges of the threads and then moved > the > trans in the direction of the most protruding edge- not too bad, just > don't > tighten ANYTHING until all of the bolts are started. > The MKII is SOOO close to running now, I'm chomping at the bit. Last night > I > found that i had to put the carbs onto the 1100 intake manifold that I had > (didn't even know I had one) so that it fits with the LCB header, while I > had > it apart, I had (?) to radius all of the internal edges and then taper the > insulators to ease the transition to the intake-I hate sharp changes in > flow > diameters). It should be running this weekend, only one week behind > schedule! > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > > > Hello David, > > I've been waiting for you to weigh in on this debate... > > I've done it both ways too. It's a pain to get all the bolts back > in the bell housing, but no more pain than trying to slide the > whole works in and line up the bolts under the car into the > tranny. ..... > > Also, BE's ARE different than Square Bodied Cars. I've never done > either in a BE. > > 10 of one kind, half score of another.... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Be nice to your kids. They will choose your nursing home. > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4de79faf842162a37edst01duc > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jun 2 11:37:22 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:37:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Obamas falt is the 1.5 trillion Obama care bill and the stimulas packages that cost large and did not solve anything. The man is just plain stupid. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Dave KK7SS" ; "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC >I have heard war described as when young men die to fight old men's >battles. > And when it is over, we don't find who was right -- only who is left. > > The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to > pay > for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, > the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was > Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave KK7SS > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who > start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. > Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, > pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > > Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to > engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the > politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, > wars. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 From pfeilmat at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:48:55 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:48:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Posts Message-ID: <4BFDB06C-67CF-4D77-B299-1D5521FDAB6D@gmail.com> So, we kick people off the list for excessive off topic posts, but we keep others? Not that I really care too much as the delete key works very well on my Mac. But please, lets take all this Wind/Toilet/Government crap off list. I believe one of the instigators of this thread campaigned to get his opposite point of view opponent off the list. Let me summarize thread: Wind power is inefficient Solar Power is subsidized by the public. Nuke energy can be dangerous Coal is smoky Toilets need water to flush Bidets leve you with a damp feeling And most importantly: NO ONE CAN AGREE ON ANYTHING! ;) Thanks. I Pledge to not reply to any group posted replies. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 11:50:52 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:50:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> 1) Obamas should have an apostrophe before the "s". 2) falt should be spelled fault 3) stimulas should be spelled stimulus I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. Credibility? -----Original Message----- From: Jack Laird Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:37 PM To: Larry Daniels ; Dave KK7SS ; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Obamas falt is the 1.5 trillion Obama care bill and the stimulas packages that cost large and did not solve anything. The man is just plain stupid. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Dave KK7SS" ; "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC >I have heard war described as when young men die to fight old men's >battles. > And when it is over, we don't find who was right -- only who is left. > > The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to > pay > for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, > the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was > Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave KK7SS > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who > start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. > Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, > pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal Faulkner" > > > Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to > engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the > politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, > wars. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:55:06 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:55:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I don't think he's stupid (or ignorant), maybe misguided, but not stupid. I feel those who think the government can run a better health care system are in for a rude awakening. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Obamas falt is the 1.5 trillion Obama care bill and the stimulas packages > that cost large and did not solve anything. The man is just plain stupid. From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:00:17 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:00:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Posts In-Reply-To: <4BFDB06C-67CF-4D77-B299-1D5521FDAB6D@gmail.com> References: <4BFDB06C-67CF-4D77-B299-1D5521FDAB6D@gmail.com> Message-ID: > I Pledge to not reply to any group posted replies. Doesn't seem to work here... David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:21:12 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:21:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Wind energy again!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The BIG energy companies have been working on wind power for decades. Think about it. They are in business to make money. They know that there is a finite amount of oil, coal and even natural gas. Knowing that, would they just sit back and let their empires and fortunes die along with the natural resources?? Of course not! They long ago saw the potential to develop wind, solar and even wave power and began working on making it cost effective so they could monopolize the market on those commodities. That way, when we run out of the non-renuables THEY will still be in business, making good money, and providing American jobs. As I stated before, I worked for a BIG energy company as a meteorologist in the 1970s. We were working on wind power projects and a LOT of money was poured into it. My colleagues there tell me that work is ongoing. In short, if the technology were ready, those BIG energy companies would have the market cornered and be selling it to you right now! The big wind farms like those in Oklahoma, Texas and Kansas (that I know of) are OWNED by BIG energy companies and they are largely developmental. Who else would have the money to build them? They are not yet cost efficient but some day they will be. Meanwhile, lets have a government that artificially inflates the cost of oil, coal and natural gas (through bureaucratic regulations and refusal to allow development) to make the current high cost of wind, solar and wave energy APPEAR more reasonable. Yes. Let's do that. It makes good sense when you have an agenda rather than a useful energy policy. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Kurt Appley wrote: > I've been trying to avoid getting into this but just can't seem to! > The main reason we have these big wind farms is so that people that drive > by > can get a warm fuzzy feeling that we are actually doing something positive > about our energy future! > Don't get me wrong---I'm in favor of wind energy but the real power [and > problem!] is with the big energy companies. > Of the many renewable forms of energy, wind isn't that great since it > seldom blows at cost effective rates. > Pete hit on the main problem though. > Big energy taking out the small municipal power dams nation wide!!! > Big energy got that way by being subsidised and with sweetheart deals. > Making power in huge power plants and shipping it across the country with > up > to 50% transmission loss only makes sense if you are the big company that > is > benefiting from it. > Put the true costs on big energy and there will be lots more renewables. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From edwd at ti.com Thu Jun 2 12:27:42 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:27:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature Message-ID: OK, I am just gonna throw this out there. Everyone has heard the quote, "never discuss religion or politics with friends or relatives" or some such wisdom as that. There is a very good reason for that; it is incendiary. When I wrote Frankie Jr of his Dad's passing, I said something to the effect of "he was so busy making his corner of the world a better place he did not fall prey to the diatribes of others". I would respectfully submit that we all go out and be a little more like that and a little less vehement with each other's views. Go out in the garage or shop instead of listening to whatever station that you are listening to and getting all riled up. Go get a neighbor kids lawnmower, bicycle, wagon, whatever running and forget about trying to sway others to your opinion, unless of course you want to bash Chinese tools, and only then because you are justified in doing so because you broke one/several helping others. Come on folks, this isn't really in the spirit of what we all just felt just a short while ago when we were one in our grief. Politics and religion are divisive subjects, do we really want to alienate each other when we can and do have so much in common? Also, to the group, I am tendering an apology for my post about solar power. Unless I was asking for advice on how to install a panel, installing a panel for a friend/neighbor and wanted help, or I was hooking up a panel to an LBC this was not the place to post. I apologize. Ed Dallas, Tx From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:34:42 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:34:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Government Toilet, Even Less LBC Than Before, Delete is to the right and up, somewhat. In-Reply-To: References: <612880215.15734.1307023071639.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <840DB93354524F3F85110FF80F470A87@HomePC> <216737.52025.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And why no one pointed out why 1,372 waivers have been granted to that wonderful plan, including large corporations and especially the unions. The bulk of these exemptions just happen to be in Nevada and the San Fransisco area. What a coincidence!! It appears that one size fits all only works if you redefine the meaning of "all" to be "everyone but me". Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Lester wrote: > Why Gee Bill, yes they were .. hmm.. I wonder why no one pointed that out?? > ;-) > > Lester > > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Bug Eye wrote: > > > Wasn' t Congress exempt from that plan? > > > > Bill W > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jun 2 12:35:14 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:35:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Posts References: <4BFDB06C-67CF-4D77-B299-1D5521FDAB6D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2FDDA062C47142D6BB18454CC14868F0@CGI.COMMTECH> So what do you all think about all this "Global Warming" crap?? > > Wind power is inefficient > Solar Power is subsidized by the public. > Nuke energy can be dangerous > Coal is smoky > Toilets need water to flush > Bidets leve you with a damp feeling > > And most importantly: > > NO ONE CAN AGREE ON ANYTHING! ;) > > Thanks. > > I Pledge to not reply to any group posted replies. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:43:36 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:43:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ed, you're just no fun at all!! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Fisher, Ed wrote: > OK, I am just gonna throw this out there. Everyone has heard the quote, > "never discuss religion or politics with friends or relatives" or some such > wisdom as that. There is a very good reason for that; it is incendiary. > When > I wrote Frankie Jr of his Dad's passing, I said something to the effect of > "he > was so busy making his corner of the world a better place he did not fall > prey > to the diatribes of others". I would respectfully submit that we all go > out > and be a little more like that and a little less vehement with each other's > views. Go out in the garage or shop instead of listening to whatever > station > that you are listening to and getting all riled up. Go get a neighbor kids > lawnmower, bicycle, wagon, whatever running and forget about trying to sway > others to your opinion, unless of course you want to bash Chinese tools, > and > only then because you are justified in doing so because you broke > one/several > helping others. Come on folks, this isn't really in the spirit of what we > all > just felt just a short while ago when we were one in our grief. Politics > and > religion are divisive subjects, do we really want to alienate each other > when > we can and do have so much in common? Also, to the group, I am tendering > an > apology for my post about solar power. Unless I was asking for advice on > how > to install a panel, installing a panel for a friend/neighbor and wanted > help, > or I was hooking up a panel to an LBC this was not the place to post. I > apologize. > > Ed > Dallas, Tx > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jun 2 12:46:31 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <766189.27736.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I will quote something said to me in a smoky room in March of 1968: "Right on". jay ________________________________ From: "Fisher, Ed" Come on folks, this isn't really in the spirit of what we all just felt just a short while ago when we were one in our grief. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:50:17 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner Message-ID: Let's get back on topic. I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the condos. I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting of one, lone Chebbie. Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, I believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:57:57 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:57:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: <766189.27736.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <766189.27736.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That was said to me in a biker bar, under a HUGE palapa, in Mexico, two nights ago.... On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Jay wrote: > I will quote something said to me in a smoky room in March of 1968: "Right > on". > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Fisher, Ed" > > Come on folks, this isn't really in the spirit of what we all > just felt just a short while ago when we were one in our grief. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:59:10 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:59:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Posts In-Reply-To: <2FDDA062C47142D6BB18454CC14868F0@CGI.COMMTECH> References: <4BFDB06C-67CF-4D77-B299-1D5521FDAB6D@gmail.com> <2FDDA062C47142D6BB18454CC14868F0@CGI.COMMTECH> Message-ID: Let's all buy a home on the beach, like Al "I fooled the shit outta a lotta people" Gore. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Mark Endicott wrote: > So what do you all think about all this "Global Warming" crap?? > > > > > > > > >> Wind power is inefficient >> Solar Power is subsidized by the public. >> Nuke energy can be dangerous >> Coal is smoky >> Toilets need water to flush >> Bidets leve you with a damp feeling >> >> And most importantly: >> >> NO ONE CAN AGREE ON ANYTHING! ;) >> >> Thanks. >> >> I Pledge to not reply to any group posted replies. >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 2 13:03:50 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> Message-ID: <1162274995.20500.1307041430306.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> No he wouldn't..... at least, not as long as his teleprnmpter was working! He's made far more serious gaffes meeting with foreign dignatories. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. Credibility? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 13:22:04 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:22:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Off Topic Posts In-Reply-To: <2FDDA062C47142D6BB18454CC14868F0@CGI.COMMTECH> References: <4BFDB06C-67CF-4D77-B299-1D5521FDAB6D@gmail.com> <2FDDA062C47142D6BB18454CC14868F0@CGI.COMMTECH> Message-ID: <705CA9C5-2B5A-48D3-8901-6B248C006358@comcast.net> WAAHHHHHHAAAA!!!! Now that's funny! Lester On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Mark Endicott wrote: > So what do you all think about all this "Global Warming" crap?? > > > > > > >> Wind power is inefficient >> Solar Power is subsidized by the public. >> Nuke energy can be dangerous >> Coal is smoky >> Toilets need water to flush >> Bidets leve you with a damp feeling >> And most importantly: >> NO ONE CAN AGREE ON ANYTHING! ;) >> Thanks. >> I Pledge to not reply to any group posted replies. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jun 2 13:50:32 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:50:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> Message-ID: <92517F06A94148F09D8E730D2B6BFD71@personal> But I don't have his staff Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Jack Laird" ; "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > 1) Obamas should have an apostrophe before the "s". > > 2) falt should be spelled fault > > 3) stimulas should be spelled stimulus > > I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude from Harvard) wouldn't > make three mistakes like that in two sentences. Credibility? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Laird > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:37 PM > To: Larry Daniels ; Dave KK7SS ; spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > Obamas falt is the 1.5 trillion Obama care bill and the stimulas packages > that cost large and did not solve anything. The man is just plain stupid. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Daniels" > To: "Dave KK7SS" ; "spridgets_autox.team.net" > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > >>I have heard war described as when young men die to fight old men's >>battles. >> And when it is over, we don't find who was right -- only who is left. >> >> The last administration started two wars and instead of raising taxes to >> pay >> for them, as has always been done before, they LOWERED taxes. Naturally, >> the resulting debt and the worst recession since the Great Depression was >> Obama's fault. Amazing how that works. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave KK7SS >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:47 PM >> To: spridgets_autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC >> >> I always favored the idea that we let the Politicians who >> start/promote/declare the wars, fight the wars. >> Put them in a closed arena, supply the arms (swords, maces, halberds, >> pikes -- you know, the good stuff) and see who wins and if they like it. >> >> -- >> Dave G KK7SS >> DN06ig Richland, WA >> >> '59 Morris Minor 1000 >> '65 Sprite - in process >> '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. >> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hal Faulkner" >> >> >> Yes, and let's include paying upfront for each and every war we decide to >> engage in! I bet if we got hit with a tax surcharge to begin with the >> politicians would have a more difficult time starting, I mean entering, >> wars. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jun 2 13:53:59 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:53:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <122A4E5FF09A49229CB3DDF958559A83@personal> Obviously there must be a better word than stupid and misguided is not strong enough. How about guided or unknowing. A great school and great test scores does not a smart man make. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Jack Laird" Cc: "Larry Daniels" ; "Dave KK7SS" ; "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC >I don't think he's stupid (or ignorant), maybe misguided, but not stupid. > I feel those who think the government can run a better health care > system are in for a rude awakening. > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Jack Laird wrote: >> Obamas falt is the 1.5 trillion Obama care bill and the stimulas packages >> that cost large and did not solve anything. The man is just plain stupid. >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:05:54 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:05:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Allen, You may be right about the Miata... ;-) Especially when it comes to maintenance and repair. I don't know if you have rental shops in Norristown or not, but they are available in a lot of cities. You bring your car, tools and parts, they furnish the space, the lights and power for a rental fee. Some are even heated /AC. If I lived near you and had the space you'd be more than welcome to park an LBC at my place and work on it as you wish. Maybe some of the other group members - Eastern OSHIT group could work that sort of arrangement for you.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Let's get back on topic. > > I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do > "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the condos. > I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. > > My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting > of > one, lone Chebbie. > > Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, I > believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:07:40 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:07:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: References: <766189.27736.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In 1970 a friend gave me a little phrase that ends all arguments about any topic. "Yeah. You're right." You don't even have to mean it!! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > That was said to me in a biker bar, under a HUGE palapa, in Mexico, two > nights ago.... > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Jay wrote: > > > I will quote something said to me in a smoky room in March of 1968: > "Right > > on". > > > > jay > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Fisher, Ed" > > > > Come on folks, this isn't really in the spirit of what we all > > just felt just a short while ago when we were one in our grief. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:09:50 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:09:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd say a rubber bumper midget. They are cheap, so you can find a decent one for little money. Any repair you do will be "minor" since the car is so small. ;) -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Let's get back on topic. > > I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do > "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the condos. > I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. > > My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting > of > one, lone Chebbie. > > Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, I > believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:25:26 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:25:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . Message-ID: (1) a nipple on the fuel filter had collapsed on itself leaving only a pin hole for the fuel to get by (2) Dodgy wire connection to the original fuel pump that had gone bad over the years. I ran that pump for 6 plus years, close to 7 years. Upon replacing the wire connection a fuse blew. . but has been stable since I replaced it with a new one. (3) Finally the fuel pump itself went awry today which happened at a shopping center near our house. I believe that the Facet was running off and on over the period of time that I was having issues . . if they are known to do that? So it might have been more than what looked like a dodgy connection . .with the pump itself giving it up on a gradual basis? My neighbor took me over to NAPA where I bought a new Facet. . It came to $50 dollars and change. I installed it while the car was in the parking lot across the street and it now is running, and with what feels like more power at that. Leave it to me to forget to bring an adjustable wrench. . I had to improvise with a clamp that I found under one of the seats. For some reason I got out of the habit of keeping tools with me in the car as I should. Back to assembling a new tool kit for carry. Now that the car is in the garage I need to replace the fuel lines which have become hard over time and tighten down the connections to the Facet. (This Facet came with it's own fuel filter as opposed to the last one, which years ago cost $39.0). Thanks to Pete Chast who was talking to me on email through the process. I have a question . . what is the average life span of a Facet fuel pump? Mine had been running faithfully for nearly 7 years. Thanks, Kirk 59 1275 From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:28:51 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:28:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the thoughts, Trevor. I had an RBM until I had to sell the house with the amazing garage. As far as the condo allowing small repairs, I was changing the brake pads on the Chebbie and got yelled at. I figured a major repalr was, like, changing a head gasket. They disagreed. I told them it was either I change my own brakes or pay the condo fee late. He shut up after that. I think his idea of a minor repair is changing a wiper blade or adding washer fluid. How could I tell him I have to adjust the valves every 1500 miles on my LBC?!? Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > I'd say a rubber bumper midget. They are cheap, so you can find a decent > one for little money. Any repair you do will be "minor" since the car is so > small. ;) > > -Trevor > PS > Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party > http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> Let's get back on topic. >> >> I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do >> "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the >> condos. >> I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. >> >> My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting >> of >> one, lone Chebbie. >> >> Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, I >> believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 2 14:30:31 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone new pit complex, not really much LBC content Message-ID: <1dc66.21abdfc7.3b194ce7@aol.com> Hi List, Drove to Silverstone for the FIA GT race meeting - I was scrutineering for today only. Saw 2 big windmills that were turning and generating electricity for some one... The new pit complex was impressively large and nice and new. Of course a lot of stuff hasn't been finished off yet and some garage toilets had not lights. When I found a garage toilet with a light I could see it had the small/large option flush but no bidet (that's a bum washer for those non-European types that don't know what a bidet is). Checked a mixture of GT3 cars in the morning and spend the afternoon doing virtually all the Lamborghini challenge cars. Because the new pit complex is on part of the circuit that's too far to walk to from the old pit complex I saw parts of the circuit I've not seen much of before. I'm not sure if I'll be at new pit complex for any other meetings this year (I don't do the F1 meeting) but it would neat to spectate from the new pit lane wall (officials are allowed to do that sometimes as part of the job). Saw a really neat Sprite in the officials' car park. It was mine. I drove it home with the roof down which was just as well as there was slow moving traffic at one point. Weslake-Monza 1330 From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 2 14:34:12 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:34:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: References: <766189.27736.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201106021334988.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> You married that friend, dinja. Peter C - At 03:07 PM 6/2/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >In 1970 a friend gave me a little phrase that ends all arguments about any >topic. > >"Yeah. You're right." > >You don't even have to mean it!! > >Cheers!! >Jim From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:34:50 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:34:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Jim. I know that any of the Eastern OSHITters would give their left hand drive nut to help. Kevin V has already offered, but it takes two hours to get to his house. Maybe I need to find a local garage to buy or rent. Again it comes down to money. Damn the economy! Wait...forget I said that! Off topic...Off topic...WARNING...DO NOT reply about the economy. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Allen, > > You may be right about the Miata... ;-) Especially when it comes to > maintenance and repair. I don't know if you have rental shops in Norristown > or not, but they are available in a lot of cities. You bring your car, tools > and parts, they furnish the space, the lights and power for a rental fee. > Some are even heated /AC. If I lived near you and had the space you'd be > more than welcome to park an LBC at my place and work on it as you wish. > Maybe some of the other group members - Eastern OSHIT group could work that > sort of arrangement for you.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > >> Let's get back on topic. >> >> I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do >> "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the >> condos. >> I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. >> >> My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting >> of >> one, lone Chebbie. >> >> Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, I >> believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jun 2 14:42:18 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:42:18 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110602204218.ALLB8.44434.root@hrndva-web14-z02> It hasn't progressed to "Godwin's Law" yet... Chris ---- Jim Johnson wrote: > In 1970 a friend gave me a little phrase that ends all arguments about any > topic. > > "Yeah. You're right." > > You don't even have to mean it!! > > Cheers!! > Jim From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:47:26 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:47:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <800089.89138.qm@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <800089.89138.qm@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, here is what I need in PA. You can register a car that is 15 years old as a "classic" and avoid the emissions inspection and annual registration fees. So a Miata would have to be a 1996 or older. Miata went to the 1.8L engine in 1994. That only leaves three years of Miata with the giant 1.8L engine. There are 2 Miatas listed within 100 miles of me on Auto Trader, but both have the 1.6L engine. How about a Spitfire? (Just kidding!) Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Bob Walker wrote: > Early miata's are becoming collector items!Here [west coast] they run up to > $5,000.00! Hopefully less where you are. They ARE good cars! Get one that > has the hardtop so you do not have to worry about leaks into the car when it > rains. Also make sure the air conditioner works well. Air conditioning in a > convertiable? Yes! With windows down you get very little air circulating in > there! Oh.....5 speed of course. Last year I bumped into a friend down in > Portland. He had gone to california to pick up a gourgious miata for > $1,000.00 bucks amazing! Look at the odometer, it had better than 300,000 > miles on it! > Bob Walker > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > From: Allen Hefner > > Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > > To: "Spridgets list" > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 11:50 AM > > Let's get back on topic. > > > > I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am > > not allowed to do > > "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking > > lot of the condos. > > I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. > > > > My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT > > an LBC, consisting of > > one, lone Chebbie. > > > > Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for > > me. In reality, I > > believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another > > off-topic topic! > > Allen Hefner > > Norristown, PA From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:50:31 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:50:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Universal Health Care - Supreme Court Involvement? Message-ID: Is Obama's Health Care Plan headed for a vote at the Supreme Court level? Something about Kagan having had an earlier interest in the plan (support for it at some level earlier on) and others saying that as such she should excuse herself from the vote . . and something similar with Justice Thomas' wife also having been involved as against the plan, with others saying the Thomas should excuse himself as well? Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 15:04:44 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:04:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re-Route eMails Message-ID: Allen, Hey watch it there. . I thought my update on Euro toilets to be very interesting? LOL Kirk From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 15:06:38 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:06:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone new pit complex, not really much LBC content In-Reply-To: <1dc66.21abdfc7.3b194ce7@aol.com> References: <1dc66.21abdfc7.3b194ce7@aol.com> Message-ID: A rednceck bidet, is called a lawn sprinkler over here On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:30 PM, wrote: > Hi List, > When I found a garage toilet with a light I could see it had the > small/large option flush but no bidet (that's a bum washer for those > non-European types that don't know what a bidet is). > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 15:06:59 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:06:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: <20110602204218.ALLB8.44434.root@hrndva-web14-z02> References: <20110602204218.ALLB8.44434.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Message-ID: Cats are just furry little Nazis. -----Original Message----- From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature It hasn't progressed to "Godwin's Law" yet... Chris ---- Jim Johnson wrote: > In 1970 a friend gave me a little phrase that ends all arguments about any > topic. > > "Yeah. You're right." > > You don't even have to mean it!! > > Cheers!! > Jim Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 15:07:31 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:07:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Universal Health Care - Supreme Court Involvement? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The legal eagle word is "recuse". It's a wash either way. If both recuse same result as if both stay. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Is Obama's Health Care Plan headed for a vote at the Supreme Court level? > > Something about Kagan having had an earlier interest in the plan (support > for it at some level earlier on) and others saying that as such she should > excuse herself from the vote . . and something similar with Justice Thomas' > wife also having been involved as against the plan, with others saying the > Thomas should excuse himself as well? > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 15:17:03 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:17:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More Off Topic. Need Margarita Recipe, LBC Black Hole Message-ID: The heat and all this recent enlightenment and anti-ignorance information has me wanting refreshment. What is a good Tequila and recipe for Margaritas? I want on the rocks with salt on the rim. What is the best Tequila for mixed drinks and what is the best CHEAP Tequila for mixed drinks? From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 15:24:35 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:24:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone new pit complex, not really much LBC content In-Reply-To: References: <1dc66.21abdfc7.3b194ce7@aol.com> Message-ID: <0D5293FB-4BBE-434C-9427-55D09506357E@gmail.com> > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:30 PM, wrote: > >> Hi List, >> When I found a garage toilet with a light I could see it had the >> small/large option flush but no bidet (that's a bum washer for those >> non-European types that don't know what a bidet is). Daniel, Now all you need to do is tell them what a bum is ;) Over here it is defined as; bum 1 |bIm| informal noun 1 a vagrant. b" a lazy or worthless person : you ungrateful bum. Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 15:37:57 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:37:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <800089.89138.qm@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1620346510296629177@unknownmsgid> Alan, Don't be too quick to write off the 1.6 Yada. Fewer cc, but revs more easily than the 1.8. Avoid the 1990-early 1991 "short-nose" crank and you will be fine. That leaves you 4 or 5 years to look at. Check the rear of the sills for rot from clogged drains. Test the AC. Ask about timing belt changes. David L From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 2 15:39:03 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] More Off Topic. Need Margarita Recipe, LBC Black Hole In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <39180662.22564.1307050743338.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> "Cheap Tequila"??? Now look what you've just started -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" what is the best CHEAP Tequila for mixed drinks? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 15:50:00 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More Off Topic. Need Margarita Recipe, LBC Black Hole In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For a cheap margarita 2 oz. el Jimador Reposado tequila (about $22 per bottle) makes a decent sipper as well 1 oz. triple sec 6 oz. margarita mix. For a nice top shelf margarita 1 oz Cointreau or Grand Marnier 2 1/2 oz. sweet and sour 1 oz. fresh squeezed lime juice 1 1/2 oz. QUALITY tequila. FWIW, 1800, Cuervo, and Patron (owned by Paul Mitchell Hair Care Products- IT'S MARKETING PEOPLE!!) should NEVER foul this recipe. MY suggestions are, Don Julio, Corzo, Tres Generaciones, or Milagro. I would recommend using a Reposado for this, and save the Anejo's for sipping. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:17 PM, derf wrote: > The heat and all this recent enlightenment and anti-ignorance > information has me wanting refreshment. > What is a good Tequila and recipe for Margaritas? I want on the rocks > with salt on the rim. > What is the best Tequila for mixed drinks and what is the best CHEAP > Tequila for mixed drinks? > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lists at dinospider.com Thu Jun 2 16:17:30 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone new pit complex, not really much LBC content In-Reply-To: References: <1dc66.21abdfc7.3b194ce7@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DE80BFA.6060200@dinospider.com> On 06/02/2011 02:06 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > A rednceck bidet, is called a lawn sprinkler over here > Might be the funniest thing said all week :) From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 16:18:55 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:18:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <1620346510296629177@unknownmsgid> References: <800089.89138.qm@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1620346510296629177@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: My timing belt broke today. I'd get a 1.8 unless I found a sweet deal on a 1.6. Hardtops are great and usually $700-1000 so all the better if you find a car that comes with one. Miatas are like Spridgets with longevity, airbags, 5 speed, A/C, power steering, and warp speed power 3500-7000RPMs. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:37 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Alan, > Don't be too quick to write off the 1.6 Yada. Fewer cc, but revs more > easily than the 1.8. Avoid the 1990-early 1991 "short-nose" crank and > you will be fine. That leaves you 4 or 5 years to look at. Check the > rear of the sills for rot from clogged drains. Test the AC. Ask about > timing belt changes. > David L From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 16:25:49 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <800089.89138.qm@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6919.25604.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Miata went to the 1.8L engine in 1994. That only leaves three years of Miata with the giant 1.8L engine. Allen - The 1.6 is the better choice in a lot of folk's opinion (mine included). The block is stronger than the 1.8, due to internal webbings in the casting. This is basically the block that was in the venerable 323GTX from a few years pre-Miata. In case you don't know about the 323GTX, it was a homologation special Mazda built for a year or two that featured AWD and a big turbo - their entry into GroupA Ralley if I'm not mistaken. Anyway - Back to Miata...the early cars are lighter, so any slight increase in power that came with the larger displacement is more than made up for by hauling around extra weight. Also, the 1.6 is NOT an interferance engine, so if the belt dies like mine did once, you just drag it home (or maybe to a rental garage), yank the radiator and covers off the front of the engine, install a new water pump and head out for more fun. - David Booker Long Island From lists at dinospider.com Thu Jun 2 16:37:09 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:37:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <800089.89138.qm@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1620346510296629177@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4DE81095.9080705@dinospider.com> Hardtop ? a hardtop on a convertible ? what kind of sick person are you ? I had a hardtop for my 124 for almost a year, it sucked big time it was always on it seemed. Luckily some sucker bought the hardtop, I ended up putting 230,000 miles over 34 years on that 124 and well over 200,000 were top down. My Honda S2000 has 21,000 miles on it and less than 100 (one hundred, not a typo) with the top up. Then again, my wife had a alfa spider that she even took the soft top off of to make a tiny bit more room in the back shelf (they called it a seat but its way too small for that) and she drove that car rain or shine for 15 years. Get some heavy cloth covers to put over the seats when it rains and remove the rubber grommets on the floor drains and you are good to go. The rest of the miles in my life are on 2 wheels so no top there either. mike On 06/02/2011 03:18 PM, derf wrote: > My timing belt broke today. I'd get a 1.8 unless I found a sweet deal on a 1.6. > Hardtops are great and usually $700-1000 so all the better if you find > a car that comes with one. > Miatas are like Spridgets with longevity, airbags, 5 speed, A/C, > power steering, and warp speed power 3500-7000RPMs. > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:37 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Alan, >> Don't be too quick to write off the 1.6 Yada. Fewer cc, but revs more >> easily than the 1.8. Avoid the 1990-early 1991 "short-nose" crank and >> you will be fine. That leaves you 4 or 5 years to look at. Check the >> rear of the sills for rot from clogged drains. Test the AC. Ask about >> timing belt changes. >> David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 16:42:35 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:42:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone new pit complex, not really much LBC content In-Reply-To: <4DE80BFA.6060200@dinospider.com> References: <1dc66.21abdfc7.3b194ce7@aol.com> <4DE80BFA.6060200@dinospider.com> Message-ID: Just as long as it isn't a public drinking fountain..... On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > On 06/02/2011 02:06 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> A rednceck bidet, is called a lawn sprinkler over here >> >> > > Might be the funniest thing said all week :) > _________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 16:43:02 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:43:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <6919.25604.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <800089.89138.qm@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6919.25604.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When it comes to power there is no replacement for displacement. Spec Miata racers have to use restrictor plates in 1.8s. If you count the increased displacement, larger brakes (good upgrade for 1.6 cars), chassis bracing, passenger side air bag, and cockpit brace then yes, the 94 base model weighs 50 pounds more than the 89-93, but all are functional additions that make the extra weight negligible, IMHO. 50 pounds more and 16 more horsepower. Either 1.6 or 1.8 are strong enough internally to take a turbo with a good amount of boost. You just need turbo hardware, injectors, and engine management. I've never heard of anyone pulling a 1.8 to put in a 1.6 but I know of quite a few 1.6 to 1.8 swaps. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 16:52:07 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:52:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Hardtop LJC content Message-ID: Miata hardtop facts: They fit 1989-2005 cars. They sell for $700-1000 regularly. If you race Spec Miata you must use one. Some really like them for winter use. I have one but rarely have it on the car I'm driving. It usually rests on the car I'm not driving. They are generally single man portable meaning a decent sized man can install and remove them alone. On days like today, when it is 100 degrees out, a white hard top and A/C beats a soft top. From lists at dinospider.com Thu Jun 2 17:07:37 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:07:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Hardtop LJC content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE817B9.4010600@dinospider.com> On 06/02/2011 03:52 PM, derf wrote: > On days like today, when it is 100 degrees out, a white hard top and > A/C beats a soft top. > No it does not, enjoy the sunshine !!! Only time I thought about maybe putting the top up was in Vegas on a 107 degree day stuck in 0 MPH traffic, luckily my wife was there to set me straight ahd within a hour the traffic moved again. Ok, I know, I am a convertible guy, while I do own a truck for towing purposes its hardly ever used, all other cars have been convertibles both for me and my wife and now even my daughter. I also live in S. Calif. but came from Needles Ca. where my mother owned a convertible in the days before AC was standard (did the Sunbeam Tiger ever even have a AC option? doubt it) so heat and convertibles is second nature to me. But wife and I did spend a month on the east coast in January many years ago, it was a MAJOR PAIN clearing the snow off the seats every morning and the leather cracked from being sat on when frozen so I have seen cold with my convertibles. From nases at verizon.net Thu Jun 2 17:16:41 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:16:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Speaking of portable tool kits. Does anyone have a list of the essentials for roadside repairs? I always over pack the tools adding too much bulk and weight to the Sprite. Phil Nase home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 2, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > > Leave it to me to forget to bring an adjustable wrench. . I had to > improvise with a clamp that I found under one of the seats. For some reason > I got out of the habit of keeping tools with me in the car as I should. > Back to assembling a new tool kit for carry. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 17:30:31 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:30:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9065A21D-A15E-4D8A-BDAC-0F5DCFE9EC06@gmail.com> On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Philip Nase wrote: > Speaking of portable tool kits. Does anyone have a list of the > essentials for > roadside repairs? I always over pack the tools adding too much > bulk and > weight to the Sprite. > > Here's what I carry in tools, > > A complete set of combination wrenches with duplicates for the 1/2 > and 9/16 > A complete set of 3/8 sockets w/ ratchet, 3" and 6" extensions > standard and philips screwdrivers > vise grips > pliers ; needle nose, standard, and dikes > small ball peen hammer > small hemostats > ignition tools w/ points, condenser and rotor > cold chisel > test light > wire ties > electrical and duck tape > 3' of steel wire > > I also carry a complete dizzy ready to pop in, a fuel pump, plugs, > fan belt, accelerator cable, and a water pump. > > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa > > > > Below is a message from Frank Clarici from 2008; > > > On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > >> I carry too many parts but now that I do carry all those parts, >> nothing breaks down. >> Ever since I snapped an axle 2 hours from home, I carry a spare, >> it is zip tied under the right front inner fender but I have never >> needed it. >> I recommend all of us carry some basics. >> >> Accelerator cable >> Fan belt >> short piece of 1/4" fuel hose >> short piece 1/2 heater hose (head> water pump) >> some bailing wire >> SU float needle >> back up fuel pump >> spare dizzy ready to go with wires >> set of spark plugs >> length of electric wire >> Couple of spare nuts and bolts and lug nuts >> Fuses >> Electric tape >> zip ties >> >> Tools should include >> screw drivers >> spark plug wrench >> 7/16, 1/2, 9/16 wrenches >> pliers >> test light >> flash light >> lug wrench and jack >> jumper cables >> >> Road trip spares (more than a day away from home) >> Spare axle >> generator/regulator (or alt) >> radiator hoses >> Head gasket set BTDT on the road >> brake pads >> brakes hose >> slave cyl (or kit) >> front pulley (engine) >> >> Stuff you will not find at the local auto parts store and don't >> want to wait for 2 or 3 days to be delivered where you broke down. >> I carry the basics in my small tool kit in each Sprite, I have the >> "Road Trip Spares" bag that I throw in the car when I am going >> away for a few days. >> I have lost a generator in Vermont, an axle in Pennsylvania, a >> fuel pump in Maryland, and a petronix in Virginia. >> If your brake pads go 1000 miles from home, you will be glad you >> have spares, they can be used ones with some meat left on them. >> And remember, if a caliper hangs up and you don't realize it, >> those pads will go away fast and a down hill mountain run with >> metal to metal is no fun. Happened to someone in Breckenridge in >> 92, not me but it happens. From nases at verizon.net Thu Jun 2 17:36:24 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:36:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: <9065A21D-A15E-4D8A-BDAC-0F5DCFE9EC06@gmail.com> References: <9065A21D-A15E-4D8A-BDAC-0F5DCFE9EC06@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0396E197-46A5-4896-A512-D6D2159FE0B9@verizon.net> That's similar to what I pack but it seems like it's a lot of weight. Phil Nase home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Philip Nase wrote: > >> Speaking of portable tool kits. Does anyone have a list of the essentials for >> roadside repairs? I always over pack the tools adding too much bulk and >> weight to the Sprite. >> > >> Here's what I carry in tools, >> >> A complete set of combination wrenches with duplicates for the 1/2 and 9/16 >> A complete set of 3/8 sockets w/ ratchet, 3" and 6" extensions >> standard and philips screwdrivers >> vise grips >> pliers ; needle nose, standard, and dikes >> small ball peen hammer >> small hemostats >> ignition tools w/ points, condenser and rotor >> cold chisel >> test light >> wire ties >> electrical and duck tape >> 3' of steel wire >> >> I also carry a complete dizzy ready to pop in, a fuel pump, plugs, fan belt, accelerator cable, and a water pump. >> >> >> Kevin V. >> Tuscarora, Pa >> >> >> >> Below is a message from Frank Clarici from 2008; >> >> >> On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: >> >>> I carry too many parts but now that I do carry all those parts, nothing breaks down. >>> Ever since I snapped an axle 2 hours from home, I carry a spare, it is zip tied under the right front inner fender but I have never needed it. >>> I recommend all of us carry some basics. >>> >>> Accelerator cable >>> Fan belt >>> short piece of 1/4" fuel hose >>> short piece 1/2 heater hose (head> water pump) >>> some bailing wire >>> SU float needle >>> back up fuel pump >>> spare dizzy ready to go with wires >>> set of spark plugs >>> length of electric wire >>> Couple of spare nuts and bolts and lug nuts >>> Fuses >>> Electric tape >>> zip ties >>> >>> Tools should include >>> screw drivers >>> spark plug wrench >>> 7/16, 1/2, 9/16 wrenches >>> pliers >>> test light >>> flash light >>> lug wrench and jack >>> jumper cables >>> >>> Road trip spares (more than a day away from home) >>> Spare axle >>> generator/regulator (or alt) >>> radiator hoses >>> Head gasket set BTDT on the road >>> brake pads >>> brakes hose >>> slave cyl (or kit) >>> front pulley (engine) >>> >>> Stuff you will not find at the local auto parts store and don't want to wait for 2 or 3 days to be delivered where you broke down. >>> I carry the basics in my small tool kit in each Sprite, I have the "Road Trip Spares" bag that I throw in the car when I am going away for a few days. >>> I have lost a generator in Vermont, an axle in Pennsylvania, a fuel pump in Maryland, and a petronix in Virginia. >>> If your brake pads go 1000 miles from home, you will be glad you have spares, they can be used ones with some meat left on them. And remember, if a caliper hangs up and you don't realize it, those pads will go away fast and a down hill mountain run with metal to metal is no fun. Happened to someone in Breckenridge in 92, not me but it happens. From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 2 18:01:39 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: <1831505407.23898.1307059033271.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <532856194.23926.1307059299075.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I carry a AAA Plus Member card. Much lighter & and up to a 100 mile tow! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From Miniac7 at aol.com Thu Jun 2 18:25:01 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:25:01 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Week Message-ID: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> I certainly hope you are all enjoying your British cars this week. It's almost over, so if you haven't already been, get out and drive yours more than usual. This weekend I'll be on a two-day 750 mile Mini Lap of Virginia for classic Mini's only. _http://www.britishcarweek.org/_ (http://www.britishcarweek.org/) Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini From jessmd1 at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 18:32:23 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:32:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275cc rebuild Message-ID: <309AE64C-2712-4277-9B66-B4BE9884AC77@comcast.net> I wish to have someone rebuild a 1275cc and 5 speed transmission for my '59 bugeye.I would like it for a daily driver.If possible,I would like it not to leak oil.I don't have a 5 speed transmission yet.Can anyone suggest a good person/place for this who is reasonable in price? I am in Huntsville,Alabama. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jun 2 18:41:24 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:41:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275cc rebuild In-Reply-To: <309AE64C-2712-4277-9B66-B4BE9884AC77@comcast.net> References: <309AE64C-2712-4277-9B66-B4BE9884AC77@comcast.net> Message-ID: ALL British vehicles leak oil. ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:32 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 1275cc rebuild I wish to have someone rebuild a 1275cc and 5 speed transmission for my '59 bugeye.I would like it for a daily driver.If possible,I would like it not to leak oil.I don't have a 5 speed transmission yet.Can anyone suggest a good person/place for this who is reasonable in price? I am in Huntsville,Alabama. _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jun 2 18:44:29 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:44:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Well, here is what I need in PA. You can register a car that is 15 years > old as a "classic" Here in Kalifornia, '76 and later have to pass regular smog tests. That pretty much takes the fun out of RBM's. There used to be antique car plates. but I don't know if they still exist, and neither does the local DMV. I think you had to promise not to drive the car more than 15 minutes a year anyway. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jun 2 18:49:07 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:49:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > list of the essentials for > roadside repairs? AAA card Cell phone From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 18:50:05 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:50:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275cc rebuild Message-ID: To minimize the oil leaks make sure you install the updated seals for the rear of the engine and the front of the transmission. These put real seals in place of no seals that always leak. Steve ------Original Message------ From: Jess Power Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] 1275cc rebuild Sent: Jun 2, 2011 8:32 PM I wish to have someone rebuild a 1275cc and 5 speed transmission for my '59 bugeye.I would like it for a daily driver.If possible,I would like it not to leak oil.I don't have a 5 speed transmission yet.Can anyone suggest a good person/place for this who is reasonable in price? I am in Huntsville,Alabama. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 2 18:55:48 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275cc rebuild In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1118368133.24652.1307062548890.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> It's not an oil leak! It's that world beating British developement - built in rust prevention! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: corvallis at peoplepc.com ALL British vehicles leak oil. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:00:27 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:00:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] British Car Week In-Reply-To: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> References: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> Message-ID: You just hada rub it in, didn't you, Howard!! MY LBC is in pieces in the garage and I most definitely did NOT enjoy all the wire brushing and sanding I did this week trying to get it ready for paint.... I was going to wish a blown head gasket on you for posting your weekend trip information, but I felt better after a glass of vino on the patio and decided not to.... ;-) Seriously, have a great trip and post pictures! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:25 PM, wrote: > > > I certainly hope you are all enjoying your British cars this week. It's > almost over, so if you haven't already been, get out and drive yours more > than usual. This weekend I'll be on a two-day 750 mile Mini Lap of Virginia > for classic Mini's only. > > http://www.britishcarweek.org/ > > Howard Collins > Virginia Beach, VA. > '60 AH Bugeye Sprite > '68 Austin Mini > > __._,_.___ > Reply to sender | > Reply to group| Reply > via web post| Start > a New Topic > Messages in this topic( > 1) > Recent Activity: > > > Visit Your Group > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > Switch to: Text-Only, > Daily Digest > Unsubscribe  Terms > of Use > . > > __,_._,___ > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:02:16 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> list of the essentials for >> roadside repairs? > AAA card > Cell phone Spoken like someone who hasn't broken down out of range of a cell tower ;-) David L From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jun 2 18:59:28 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (R.B. Evans) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:59:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> Message-ID: <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. Credibility?" I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only two sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law Review. However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are **85-90** "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records "silly", but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is to have an informed electorate. RBE From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:07:32 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:07:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Some website updates for all.... Message-ID: Kevin Valentine posted an old email of Frank's on another list. I thought it was significant enough that I put it up under the "Resources" tab on the Sprite-Midget Club website at: The email was a list of things Frank felt were good to have along in the manner of a traveling kit for your spridget. I am finding that Frank is still looking out for us all somehow as we discover all the great things he left us with.... -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 2 19:10:45 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 01:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <302503528.24864.1307063445849.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> And that's when my ham radio comes in handy.. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> >> list of the essentials for >> roadside repairs? > AAA card > Cell phone Spoken like someone who hasn't broken down out of range of a cell tower ;-) From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:24:21 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:24:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: Ya know, maybe Buster has a point there. After all, just how am I supposed to believe in the intelligence of a man who was foolish enough to allow himself to be railroaded into becoming the titular head of a country full of the people who have been posting on this List? ;-) Folks, if you read through the constitution again, you might just find that it doesn't matter who you voted for, the guy who is elected is YOUR president for four years. As such he deserves a bit more respect than some of you appear willing to accord him. It is a silly system that doesn't even begin to work the way the founding fathers intended, but at least you aren't living in China making substandard tools for a "living". David L From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:25:01 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:25:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] British Car Week In-Reply-To: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> References: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> Message-ID: Just got back from 10 days in sunny, sandy Mexico. Checking out tequilas, and the senorita's. Got back to the house at 2am. Spent the morning sleeping, and the afternoon unpacking, and yard work. I need a single shot 22 so I can use shorts, damn squirrels had planted 92 (what I have found so far) pecan trees in my yard. Surprising what comes up after almost 2 weeks of not being mowed. I will get out tomorrow, and try to get some smile time behind the wheel. Brad On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:25 PM, wrote: > > > I certainly hope you are all enjoying your British cars this week. It's > almost over, so if you haven't already been, get out and drive yours more > than usual. This weekend I'll be on a two-day 750 mile Mini Lap of Virginia > for classic Mini's only. > > http://www.britishcarweek.org/ > > Howard Collins > Virginia Beach, VA. > '60 AH Bugeye Sprite > '68 Austin Mini > > > __._,_.___ > > > Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional > Change settings via the Web(Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest| Switch > to Fully Featured > Visit Your Group > | Yahoo! > Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > __,_._,___ -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:28:44 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:28:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Some website updates for all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We were truly blessed. Frank absolutely HATED television, as it was a waste of time, taking away from his being able to work on Spridgets. Yet almost every day, he was online (slightly different television) imparting his wisdom to us. Thank God that the internet will have it stored somewhere on here, for eternity. Or as long as the web lasts. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > Kevin Valentine posted an old email of Frank's on another list. I thought > it was significant enough that I put it up under the "Resources" tab on the > Sprite-Midget Club website at: > > The email was a list of things Frank felt were good to have along in the > manner of a traveling kit for your spridget. > > I am finding that Frank is still looking out for us all somehow as we > discover all the great things he left us with.... > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > > > > __._,_.___ > > > Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional > Change settings via the Web(Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest| Switch > to Fully Featured > Visit Your Group > | Yahoo! > Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > __,_._,___ -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jun 2 19:29:27 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 01:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: <729490153.2329045.1307064551581.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <747582811.2329049.1307064567760.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> 1/4, 1/2, 7/16, & 9/16 combination wrenches and the same size sockets with a ratchet and extension. Hose clamps, duct tape, baling twine, a set or two of points, adjustable wrench, plain & phillips screwdrivers, including one big plain, preferably with a lifetime guarantee, pliers, oil, & shop manual. If you don't have wire wheels, a BFH can prove useful. Small bottles of Rainex & Never Fog and a sharp knife. I keep a ratchet, extension, and 9/16 deep socket on the floor next to the driver's door specifically for checking gearbox oil. Kate Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . Speaking of portable tool kits. Does anyone have a list of the essentials for roadside repairs? I always over pack the tools adding too much bulk and weight to the Sprite. Phil Nase home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 2, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > > Leave it to me to forget to bring an adjustable wrench. . I had to > improvise with a clamp that I found under one of the seats. For some reason > I got out of the habit of keeping tools with me in the car as I should. > Back to assembling a new tool kit for carry. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:29:48 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:29:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A short Rescue Message-ID: <80D37575-A671-44F9-B76C-2EF7849AE27E@gmail.com> Speaking of things to carry in a midget.... I just got back from a rescue mission.... Rob's fuel pump quit and the spare I carry in my Midget saved him a walk and a tow. This is the 6th Midget (and one logging truck) saved by that fuel pump. I just wire it to the battery with alligator clips and hook up the hoses from the filter to the pump and a short piece of hose to the front carb....... It gets wire tied to the snout on the front air cleaner. It's worked every time ;) Kevin V. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:38:20 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:38:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: I think I know how Obama got elected and it scares me. I think a lot of people believed he could make a positive change but never understood exactly what he would change and how. To want change for change's sake is silly. I'm not sure I like the change, so far. Point out something that Obama has changed for the better. I respect the office of POTUS and Obama as President. I do not agree with his policies and/or politics. But, if I were to meet him in person I would afford him the respect due the President. On a positive note I think he is better than Hillary would have been. I don't agree 100% with Reps or Dems. Lately the lesser of two evils has been Elephants for me. From twobees at sprynet.com Thu Jun 2 19:59:32 2011 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:59:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off-Topic Posts Message-ID: <00dc01cc2191$e1cd6290$6401a8c0@normoffice> I guess I haven't been reading the Spridget Digest much lately. Too busy with the next issue, prepping to teach old people safe driving, working on my 948 engine & painting the Turner. I missed a lot of this recent nonsense about who's right & who's wrong. Left, Right, Radical, Liberal, Educated, un-educated, smart, dumb. No matter. Politicians are mostly jerks who are out to steal as much as they can for themselves and their friends & the hell with the taxpaying public (that "t.p." excludes companies & people who don't pay their share of taxes.). And, the "unbiased" "news" sources that enflame hatred in this country are no better. And, the bloggers? Some of the junk that passes for fact is so blatantly false I can't believe that people actually believe it. If I started a blog &/or sent out email blasts in 18-point type that said that Tata was going to build Bugeye Sprites in Afghanistan & it was "checked with Snopes", would you believe it? Based on the emails I get from some "friends" you should. That's what they hope. When I have the time, I love refuting their lies & telling them to send it to all in their address books as a "MUST READ." Guaranteed they never do. The truth hurts. Enough. Back to work on the Turner. Norm Sippel From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jun 2 20:17:48 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:17:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Issue Resolved? Things Seem to Come in Threes. . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DE8444C.8070501@justbrits.com> Subject: pronounced "DEAD SUBJECT" after the 100th post when it was flogged into Oblivion *1. Anon Editor's Note: *1 = aka "The Archives" ; RIP- 6/2010, 6/2009, 6/2008, 6/2007, etc., etc.. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 20:34:25 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to be over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. Larry -----Original Message----- From: R.B. Evans Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. Credibility?" I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only two sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law Review. However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are **85-90** "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records "silly", but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is to have an informed electorate. RBE Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jun 2 20:35:25 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:35:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Information 101 - Video: Prince Charles goes full steam ahead on train ride - Telegra] Message-ID: <4DE8486D.6050004@justbrits.com> Buster, tsk tsk !! You "missed" one !!! LOL -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Information 101 - Video: Prince Charles goes full steam ahead on train ride - Telegra Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:41:02 -0700 From: Rick F. submitted by Geoff W.: Little Boys with Big Toys! GW Video: Prince Charles goes full steam ahead on train ride - Telegraph From doug_altman at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 20:44:59 2011 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed Message-ID: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Okay, guys, I really messed up this time. Original 1959 Mark 1 Bugeye 948cc. My starter wouldn't work. Tore it apart. All corroded inside so brushes would not move. Got everything cleaned and freed up but broke a brush spring in the process. They are old and brittle. None of the usual LBC parts suppliers carry them. Does anybody know where I can purchase a new set or have cross reference numbers for a readily available set from a car parts store? Tomorrow I visit the only starter repair shop in the tri-cities to see if they can help, but you know how that goes! Thanks. Doug ....o~'o From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 20:57:44 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:57:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: Ok, since that card is getting pulled, WHERE in Busters post, is there any racism? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to > be > over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. > > Larry > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: R.B. Evans > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude > from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. > Credibility?" > > I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no > EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only two > sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the > second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily > Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she > made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these > sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. > > It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law > Review. > However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are > **85-90** > "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. > > Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and > the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on > primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama > (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). > > The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of > his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records "silly", > but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is > to > have an informed electorate. > > RBE > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 21:14:26 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:14:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC><5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> Brad, perhaps you havenbt been bhonoredb to have been the recipient of Busterbs off list racist crap. Until you have been, you really shouldnbt open your mouth. It really isnbt any of your business anyhow. Perhaps you shouldnbt speak until you know what you are talking about? From: Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:57 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: R.B. Evans ; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Ok, since that card is getting pulled, WHERE in Busters post, is there any racism? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to be over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. Larry -----Original Message----- From: R.B. Evans Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. Credibility?" I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only two sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law Review. However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are **85-90** "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records "silly", but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is to have an informed electorate. RBE Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 21:19:27 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:19:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> Message-ID: I'm sorry to have pissed off the lead officer of the list police On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Brad, perhaps you havenbt been bhonoredb to have been the recipient of > Busterbs off list racist crap. > > Until you have been, you really shouldnbt open your mouth. It really isnbt > any of your business anyhow. > > Perhaps you shouldnbt speak until you know what you are talking about? > > > > *From:* Brad Fornal > *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:57 PM > *To:* Larry Daniels > *Cc:* R.B. Evans ; spridgets_autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > Ok, since that card is getting pulled, WHERE in Busters post, is there any > racism? > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > >> Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to >> be >> over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. >> >> Larry >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: R.B. Evans >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM >> To: spridgets_autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC >> >> Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude >> from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. >> Credibility?" >> >> I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no >> EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only >> two >> sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the >> second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily >> Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she >> made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these >> sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. >> >> It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law >> Review. >> However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are >> **85-90** >> "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. >> >> Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and >> the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on >> primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama >> (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). >> >> The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of >> his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records >> "silly", >> but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is >> to >> have an informed electorate. >> >> RBE >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 21:20:16 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:20:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> Message-ID: If you bring it to a public forum, one would expect most anyone to participate On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Brad, perhaps you havenbt been bhonoredb to have been the recipient of > Busterbs off list racist crap. > > Until you have been, you really shouldnbt open your mouth. It really isnbt > any of your business anyhow. > > Perhaps you shouldnbt speak until you know what you are talking about? > > > > *From:* Brad Fornal > *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:57 PM > *To:* Larry Daniels > *Cc:* R.B. Evans ; spridgets_autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > Ok, since that card is getting pulled, WHERE in Busters post, is there any > racism? > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > >> Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to >> be >> over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. >> >> Larry >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: R.B. Evans >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM >> To: spridgets_autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC >> >> Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude >> from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. >> Credibility?" >> >> I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no >> EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only >> two >> sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the >> second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily >> Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she >> made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these >> sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. >> >> It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law >> Review. >> However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are >> **85-90** >> "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. >> >> Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and >> the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on >> primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama >> (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). >> >> The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of >> his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records >> "silly", >> but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is >> to >> have an informed electorate. >> >> RBE >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 2 21:23:21 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:23:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC><5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC><1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> Message-ID: <04FC6878151A4EC495359B37CF70A6E7@HomePC> I can understand why you would apologize. From: Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:19 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: R.B. Evans ; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC I'm sorry to have pissed off the lead officer of the list police On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: Brad, perhaps you havenbt been bhonoredb to have been the recipient of Busterbs off list racist crap. Until you have been, you really shouldnbt open your mouth. It really isnbt any of your business anyhow. Perhaps you shouldnbt speak until you know what you are talking about? From: Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:57 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: R.B. Evans ; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Ok, since that card is getting pulled, WHERE in Busters post, is there any racism? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to be over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. Larry -----Original Message----- From: R.B. Evans Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM To: spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. Credibility?" I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only two sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law Review. However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are **85-90** "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records "silly", but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is to have an informed electorate. RBE Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jun 2 21:29:02 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 22:29:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: <4DE854FE.9030400@justbrits.com> << Ok, since that card is getting pulled, WHERE in Busters post, is there any racism? >> I had to RE-read Buster's post as I failed to see any either, Brad ?!? So tell us Larry, WHERE is it done ?? r From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:14:11 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:14:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> Message-ID: Welcome to the club. It is not as hard to join as one might think. It just takes a little ignorance and a little freedom of speech. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I'm sorry to have pissed off the lead officer of the list police From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:19:35 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:19:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed In-Reply-To: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I dunno how original you need to keep it or if 948s can take 1275 starters but ye olde Isuzu Starter #16878 might work. I've used them on 1275s and they work great. YMMV. Springs can be fabricated, too. Hopefully your starter repair joint will have some good old parts and know-how. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 2 22:23:43 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone new pit complex, not really much LBC content Message-ID: <477c.638668a1.3b19bbcf@aol.com> I never realised that. Arse or buttocks or behind. It's the flabby part of your body that has 2 halves and makes contact with a chair when you sit down. In a message dated 02/06/2011 22:24:51 GMT Daylight Time, kevinv1275 at gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <_WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_ (mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) > wrote: Hi List, When I found a garage toilet with a light I could see it had the small/large option flush but no bidet (that's a bum washer for those non-European types that don't know what a bidet is). Daniel, Now all you need to do is tell them what a bum is ;) Over here it is defined as; bum 1 |bIm| informal noun 1 a vagrant. b" a lazy or worthless person : you ungrateful bum. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 22:32:56 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:32:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out these car condos In-Reply-To: References: <1525686534.1002105.1307066112887.JavaMail.root@vznit170078> Message-ID: My kind of place!!! Herb (one of these two ought to work for you) http://www.kare11.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=958137284001#/Twin+Cities+man+creates+a+country+club+for+cars/958137284001 Click here: kare11.com | Minneapolis and St. Paul | KARE Video -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! 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From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jun 2 22:39:35 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 23:39:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> Message-ID: <4DE86587.6090907@justbrits.com> Brad, do I have this "correct" ?? << Brad, perhaps you havenbt been b honoredb to have been the recipient of Busterbs off list racist crap.>> Larry is carping about mail he gets OFF List but doing so ON List ?? Did I get it tight ??? And THEN he says: " it really isnbt any of your business anyhow. ". If "it" isn't any of "your business" WHY is he rantin on yer case ?? And whilst yer 'splaining DAT, plz tell me WHY am I reading about it 'cause if it ain't none of "your business" why is it any of mine ?? I MUST be "missing" something, right ??????? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 2 22:47:44 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Message-ID: <4f2d.54e68162.3b19c170@aol.com> Larry, Unless I'm mistaken Brad had every right to question the post you made since you made it everyone's business when you posted your comments! Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 03/06/2011 04:33:51 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Brad, perhaps you havenbt been bhonoredb to have been the recipient of Busterbs off list racist crap. Until you have been, you really shouldnbt open your mouth. It really isnbt any of your business anyhow. Perhaps you shouldnbt speak until you know what you are talking about? From: Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:57 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: R.B. Evans ; spridgets_autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Ok, since that card is getting pulled, WHERE in Busters post, is there any racism? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to be over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. Larry From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Thu Jun 2 23:00:29 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed In-Reply-To: References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <017501cc21ab$2bbe5580$833b0080$@net> I have a couple of rebuilt starters put back as spares and don't mind selling one. Contact me off list if interested Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:20 PM To: Doug Altman Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed I dunno how original you need to keep it or if 948s can take 1275 starters but ye olde Isuzu Starter #16878 might work. I've used them on 1275s and they work great. YMMV. Springs can be fabricated, too. Hopefully your starter repair joint will have some good old parts and know-how. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From grbyrns at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 23:08:17 2011 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:08:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now for actual toilet fact Message-ID: <26C6C3E5-4E5C-41A8-B7C4-0CDC01E90DBC@gmail.com> Stupid politics! But if you want a low vol toilet that works, American Standard Cadet 3. I just installed 2 in the last 2 months, work better than the old high volume ones. The anti-bacterial glaze is nice too. The two Morrisses and turbo Bugsy are all running too well to spend much time reading about cars. Regards, Glen Byrns 59 Morris Traveller 59 Morris stake-side flatty 59 turbo bugeye Sent from my iPhone From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 23:46:58 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:46:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed In-Reply-To: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Doug, I'm guessing any starter/alternator shop would have springs to fit it. Even in tiny Dodge City I have an old guy who works wonders with non-domestic starters/generators/alternators. That said, remember that a good concours judge will have you disassemble your starter to be certain the brush springs are correct... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Doug Altman wrote: > Okay, guys, I really messed up this time. Original 1959 Mark 1 Bugeye > 948cc. > My starter wouldn't work. Tore it apart. All corroded inside so brushes > would not move. Got everything cleaned and freed up but broke a brush > spring > in the process. They are old and brittle. None of the usual LBC parts > suppliers carry them. Does anybody know where I can purchase a new set or > have cross reference numbers for a readily available set from a car parts > store? Tomorrow I visit the only starter repair shop in the tri-cities to > see > if they can help, but you know how that goes! Thanks. Doug ....o~'o From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 23:48:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:48:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now for actual toilet fact In-Reply-To: <26C6C3E5-4E5C-41A8-B7C4-0CDC01E90DBC@gmail.com> References: <26C6C3E5-4E5C-41A8-B7C4-0CDC01E90DBC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nice to see you back on the list, Glen!! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Stupid politics! > But if you want a low vol toilet that works, American Standard Cadet 3. > I just installed 2 in the last 2 months, work better than the old high > volume ones. The anti-bacterial glaze is nice too. > The two Morrisses and turbo Bugsy are all running too well to spend much > time reading about cars. > > Regards, > Glen Byrns > 59 Morris Traveller > 59 Morris stake-side flatty > 59 turbo bugeye > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jun 3 01:07:25 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:07:25 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner References: Message-ID: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Just to throw spanner at Allen (very gently and slowly so there is plenty of time to duck), what part of LBC does a Miata come from? However, I'm with Allen on this one, after the first couple of posts, the wind and toilet seem to have come together under the heading of 'Pure Verbal Garbage'. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" <> To: "Allen Hefner" <> Cc: "Spridgets list" Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > Allen, > > You may be right about the Miata... ;-) Especially when it comes to > maintenance and repair. I don't know if you have rental shops in > Norristown > or not, but they are available in a lot of cities. You bring your car, > tools > and parts, they furnish the space, the lights and power for a rental fee. > Some are even heated /AC. If I lived near you and had the space you'd be > more than welcome to park an LBC at my place and work on it as you wish. > Maybe some of the other group members - Eastern OSHIT group could work > that > sort of arrangement for you.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Allen Hefner <> wrote: > >> Let's get back on topic. >> >> I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do >> "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the >> condos. >> I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. >> >> My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting >> of >> one, lone Chebbie. >> >> Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, >> I >> believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA >> >> *Current:* >> 2006 Chebbie >> *Former:* >> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >> 1964 VW Type I >> 1967 VW Type II >> 1967 Rover 2000TC >> 1977 MG Midget >> _______________________________________________ From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jun 3 01:17:37 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:17:37 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] A short Rescue References: <80D37575-A671-44F9-B76C-2EF7849AE27E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <76BBF719D49C428F9E9249D0905A3709@user8634b3d69b> Kevin, Are you able to say what went wrong with the other Midget fuel pumps? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Valentine" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:29 AM Subject: [Spridgets] A short Rescue > Speaking of things to carry in a midget.... > > I just got back from a rescue mission.... Rob's fuel pump quit and > the spare I carry in my Midget saved him a walk and a tow. > > This is the 6th Midget (and one logging truck) saved by that fuel pump. > I just wire it to the battery with alligator clips and hook up the hoses > from the filter to the pump and a short piece of hose to the front > carb....... It gets wire tied to the snout on the front air cleaner. > It's worked every time ;) > > Kevin V. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 03:38:10 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 05:38:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Now for actual toilet fact In-Reply-To: <26C6C3E5-4E5C-41A8-B7C4-0CDC01E90DBC@gmail.com> References: <26C6C3E5-4E5C-41A8-B7C4-0CDC01E90DBC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Glen, Very interesting, what is their technology behind that? Lin On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Stupid politics! > But if you want a low vol toilet that works, American Standard Cadet 3. > I just installed 2 in the last 2 months, work better than the old high > volume ones. The anti-bacterial glaze is nice too. > The two Morrisses and turbo Bugsy are all running too well to spend much > time reading about cars. > > Regards, > Glen Byrns > 59 Morris Traveller > 59 Morris stake-side flatty > 59 turbo bugeye > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 03:56:06 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 05:56:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice 62 on eBay.....2.1K buy now. Message-ID: *http://tinyurl.com/445gtkw Lin * From kmappley at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 04:02:35 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 05:02:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re wind energy again(last???) Message-ID: Jim: You hit the nail on the head! When BIG energy has TOTAL control of renewable's we will get renewable's. Till then anyone who wants to participate in the game won't get the same deals. Unfortunately, huge energy complexes transporting power all over the country isn't as efficient as making it on site in many cases. As for artificially inflating the price of coal, oil, ect, I don't have a problem if its a tax the go's toward the government debt! Kurt. From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 04:17:35 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 06:17:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A short Rescue In-Reply-To: <80D37575-A671-44F9-B76C-2EF7849AE27E@gmail.com> References: <80D37575-A671-44F9-B76C-2EF7849AE27E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Awesome Kevin : ) I love it. Lin On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > Speaking of things to carry in a midget.... > > I just got back from a rescue mission.... Rob's fuel pump quit and the > spare I carry in my Midget saved him a walk and a tow. > > This is the 6th Midget (and one logging truck) saved by that fuel pump. I > just wire it to the battery with alligator clips and hook up the hoses from > the filter to the pump and a short piece of hose to the front carb....... > It gets wire tied to the snout on the front air cleaner. It's worked > every time ;) > > Kevin V. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 04:40:51 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 06:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A short Rescue In-Reply-To: <76BBF719D49C428F9E9249D0905A3709@user8634b3d69b> References: <80D37575-A671-44F9-B76C-2EF7849AE27E@gmail.com> <76BBF719D49C428F9E9249D0905A3709@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <03D0502F-AB69-4FE0-AC7F-17AF3F3BAFBE@gmail.com> On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Kevin, > Are you able to say what went wrong with the other Midget fuel pumps? Guy, One was an electrical problem with the wiring, the wire running thru the body to the fuel pump shorted. Three of the others were original pumps and needed points cleaned/replaced. The other 2 were replacement pumps which just wore out and were unserviceable. (I don't know what was wrong with the logging truck, I got the guy to a service station and my pump and I were on our way :) Kevin From kmappley at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 04:51:53 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 05:51:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Actual LBC!!!!!! Message-ID: Wondering if anyone has had experience with Mo$$ electric fan kit or if anyone can recommend a better kit. [Reliability,ect] Kurt From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jun 3 05:28:44 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:28:44 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] A short Rescue References: <80D37575-A671-44F9-B76C-2EF7849AE27E@gmail.com> <76BBF719D49C428F9E9249D0905A3709@user8634b3d69b> <03D0502F-AB69-4FE0-AC7F-17AF3F3BAFBE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Many thanks Kevin, I was just trying to establish if it was worth carrying a spare pump. It looks as if an annual service would be of some benefit. (Perhaps the logging truck has sawdust clogging its filters ....) Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Valentine" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A short Rescue > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > >> Kevin, >> Are you able to say what went wrong with the other Midget fuel pumps? > > Guy, > > One was an electrical problem with the wiring, the wire running thru the > body to the fuel pump shorted. Three of the others were original pumps > and needed points cleaned/replaced. The other 2 were replacement pumps > which just wore out and were unserviceable. (I don't know what was wrong > with the logging truck, I got the guy to a service station and my pump > and I were on our way :) > > Kevin From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jun 3 06:45:10 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 05:45:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: A short Rescue In-Reply-To: <508382890.20110603054436@pacifier.com> References: <80D37575-A671-44F9-B76C-2EF7849AE27E@gmail.com> <76BBF719D49C428F9E9249D0905A3709@user8634b3d69b> <03D0502F-AB69-4FE0-AC7F-17AF3F3BAFBE@gmail.com> <508382890.20110603054436@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1201442685.20110603054510@pacifier.com> Hello Guy, I don't bother to carry a spare fuel pump, but have installed a fuel pressure regulator. That way I can get ANY fuel pump off the shelf of ANY parts house. Granted, I can't fix it by the side of the road, but I don't carry a jack either. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "You shouldn't be writing elegies, young lady," the curfew told Nell. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jun 3 08:00:01 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:00:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed In-Reply-To: References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <75B2709D30E84D83A0E633FA42DA4284@Home> > Springs can be fabricated, too. > Hopefully your starter repair joint will have some good old parts and > know-how. I don't know what starter brushes look like, but I think the springs don't have to be original or old. They just have to fit and produce a reasonable tension. Last year I repaired a $2 yard-sale electric drill by carving too-long brushes to shape and buying springs from the hardware store. It works fine. Michael Rowe From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jun 3 08:04:49 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:04:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Same starter works on all A 40 engines. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Doug Altman" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed >I dunno how original you need to keep it or if 948s can take 1275 > starters but ye olde Isuzu Starter #16878 might work. > I've used them on 1275s and they work great. YMMV. > Springs can be fabricated, too. > Hopefully your starter repair joint will have some good old parts and > know-how. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:08:40 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:08:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed In-Reply-To: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You should be able to find a spring that will work. It's only a spring and they are available in all sorts of sizes. See http://www.harborfreight.com/200-piece-assorted-spring-set-67562.html I would ask at a decent auto supply store and take the good spring with you. Make sure to replace them both. You could buy a rebuilt starter, use the spring, and throw the rest away...well, maybe that's not such a good idea. We have a starter/generator/alternator shop in Jenkintown, PA that is totally old school. He has an antique test bench that he still uses. Lots of big gauges mounted on a beautiful sheet of hardwood. He rebuilt a starter for me once, that was SOOOO much better than the rebuilt I bought from one of the usual sources...that didn't work. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Doug Altman wrote: > Okay, guys, I really messed up this time. Original 1959 Mark 1 Bugeye > 948cc. > My starter wouldn't work. Tore it apart. All corroded inside so brushes > would not move. Got everything cleaned and freed up but broke a brush > spring > in the process. They are old and brittle. None of the usual LBC parts > suppliers carry them. Does anybody know where I can purchase a new set or > have cross reference numbers for a readily available set from a car parts > store? Tomorrow I visit the only starter repair shop in the tri-cities to > see > if they can help, but you know how that goes! Thanks. Doug ....o~'o > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jun 3 08:08:39 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:08:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone new pit complex, not really much LBC content In-Reply-To: <477c.638668a1.3b19bbcf@aol.com> References: <477c.638668a1.3b19bbcf@aol.com> Message-ID: <0095730580204FA5A911A64196EB169E@Home> > Arse or buttocks or behind. In Amerkin English, there is also "a bum steer" (bad advice), which sounds like it might somehow be related to LBCs. Are we back on-topic? Michael Rowe From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jun 3 08:09:19 2011 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:09:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC><5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: <552D6E31E81C43679C5D45CA8B87636C@personal> Oh, well said Buster. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "R.B. Evans" ; "spridgets_autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to > be > over the years. I, for one, am tired of your shit. > > Larry > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: R.B. Evans > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:59 PM > To: spridgets_autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC > > Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum Laude > from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two sentences. > Credibility?" > > I'm sorry, but from a historian's perspective, but there is absolutely no > EVIDENCE that Obama was "Magna Cum Laude from Harvard". There are only > two > sources to this assertion. The first is his own autobiography, and the > second, an e-mail that began circulating in 2008, supposedly from Emily > Dupraz, a Staff Writer at the Harvard International Review, in which she > made the statement that Obama graduated magna cum laude. Neither of these > sources. Neither of these constitute "evidence" to the historian. > > It has also been asserted that Obama was "editor" of the Harvard Law > Review. > However, any significance pales when it is realized that there are > **85-90** > "editors" of the Harvard Law Review each year. > > Finally, many would have the people believe that Obama is a "genius", and > the most brilliant president in the modern era. Truth be told, based on > primary source evidence, Bush has a **demonstrably** higher IQ than Obama > (as well as a higher one than Kerry (123-120). > > The bottom line is that Obama is the ONLY modern president to order ALL of > his personal records sealed. He may consider his personal records > "silly", > but there are those who believe they are critical if the United States is > to > have an informed electorate. > > RBE > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jlaird237 at cox.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:22:01 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:22:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: I just deleted 70 posts with "toilet" in them. And the Miata was designed after many of the 1960s LBCs. Them Japs loved the Lotus Elan best of all. Maybe I can get an old Miata and drop a 1275 from a Spridget in it. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Just to throw spanner at Allen (very gently and slowly so there is plenty > of time to duck), what part of LBC does a Miata come from? > > However, I'm with Allen on this one, after the first couple of posts, the > wind and toilet seem to have come together under the heading of 'Pure Verbal > Garbage'. > > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" <> > To: "Allen Hefner" <> > Cc: "Spridgets list" > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > > > Allen, >> >> You may be right about the Miata... ;-) Especially when it comes to >> maintenance and repair. I don't know if you have rental shops in >> Norristown >> or not, but they are available in a lot of cities. You bring your car, >> tools >> and parts, they furnish the space, the lights and power for a rental fee. >> Some are even heated /AC. If I lived near you and had the space you'd be >> more than welcome to park an LBC at my place and work on it as you wish. >> Maybe some of the other group members - Eastern OSHIT group could work >> that >> sort of arrangement for you.... >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Allen Hefner <> wrote: >> >> Let's get back on topic. >>> >>> I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do >>> "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the >>> condos. >>> I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. >>> >>> My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting >>> of >>> one, lone Chebbie. >>> >>> Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, >>> I >>> believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! >>> Allen Hefner >>> Norristown, PA From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:35:33 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:35:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now for actual toilet fact In-Reply-To: <26C6C3E5-4E5C-41A8-B7C4-0CDC01E90DBC@gmail.com> References: <26C6C3E5-4E5C-41A8-B7C4-0CDC01E90DBC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Stop confusing the subject with facts. > Stupid politics! > But if you want a low vol toilet that works, American Standard Cadet 3. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:49:14 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:49:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <4DE86587.6090907@justbrits.com> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> <1BE85DE3587943F78C4E4E8696168AC5@HomePC> <4DE86587.6090907@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Maybe: George Bush hates black people. Therefore if you like George Bush you must also hate black people? My problems with Obama aren't about his race. His citizenship is of more concern to me. People say that issue has been settled but it surely was squirrelly. It kinda popped up like a rabbit out of a hat all the sudden when it would have been much better if it had popped up a long time ago. Although I do not condone racism I feel that racists are entitled to their opinion. It seems OK to hate the majority, though, and that is racism, too. The NAACP, is, by definition, racist. Black Panthers intimidating people at polling places is racist. Why are some forms tolerated and others not? From grbyrns at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:56:01 2011 From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:56:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Megasquirted Sprite Message-ID: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> It's been three years since I put the megasquirt computer in the turbo bugeye. Good time to look back. Since I finished the tuning and drove it 4k to LOTO and back '08, I've put on thousands of miles, surprised and embarrassed a few Miatas and assorted ricers in the hills, and NOT blown out another set of pistons! The same plugs are still in and look perfect, zero re-tuning, still cold starts perfectly and pulls away from the garage like a modern engine. Overall this has made all the difference. To operate a 1275 with a turbo on pump gas and get both town and country performance with dependability seemed too much to ask but this has worked perfectly! Over 100hp, over 35mpg on a good day and down to 20mpg on a GREAT day. Bugsy runs so well I'm forced to spend all my time building model airplanes. Best, Glen Sent from my iPhone From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 08:57:07 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:57:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: >> Just to throw spanner at Allen (very gently and slowly so there is plenty >> of time to duck), what part of LBC does a Miata come from? Guy, After WWII, just who do you think it was that taught the Nipponese to build cars? Why do you think the JDM cars are RHD? Not to say they still leak oil, but I am sure it is easier to make a Miata leak oil than it is to make a Spridget stop leaking oil... At its heart, the Miata is an LBC. I have always been happy that I am into Spridgets rather than MGBs, because a good Spridget is much more nimble than a Miata, but IMHO the only thing an MGB does better than a Miata is rust. David L From lmacy at mac.com Fri Jun 3 09:08:19 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:08:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Shoulda Flushed 'em instead On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > I just deleted 70 posts with "toilet" in them. -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 The bottom line: Sure, there's pain in adopting the Mac. But if I accept that, I get to use a computer that works, and that pretty much does what I expect and want a computer to do. Stewart Alsop FORTUNE.com Monday, June 25, 2001 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 09:10:51 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Megasquirted Sprite In-Reply-To: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> References: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> Message-ID: Can you link to some pics? From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 3 09:17:34 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:17:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Megasquirted Sprite In-Reply-To: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> References: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201106030817915.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> A beautiful job, too. Will it make it to Westconsin this year? Peter C === At 09:56 AM 6/3/2011, Glen Byrns wrote: >It's been three years since I put the megasquirt computer in the turbo >bugeye. Good time to look back. > Since I finished the tuning and drove it 4k to LOTO and back '08, >I've put on thousands of miles, surprised and embarrassed a few Miatas >and assorted ricers in the hills, and NOT blown out another set of >pistons! > >The same plugs are still in and look perfect, zero re-tuning, still >cold starts perfectly and pulls away from the garage like a modern >engine. > >Overall this has made all the difference. To operate a 1275 with a >turbo on pump gas and get both town and country performance with >dependability seemed too much to ask but this has worked perfectly! > >Over 100hp, over 35mpg on a good day and down to 20mpg on a GREAT day. > >Bugsy runs so well I'm forced to spend all my time building model >airplanes. > >Best, >Glen > >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3677 - Release Date: 06/03/11 From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Jun 3 09:26:11 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <816322.37554.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I just pulled the lever. It took me awhile, but I figured out where Yahoo Mail hides the filters. If anyone need assistance, contact me offlist. PS The Miata might have been influenced by the Elan but they pumped it up to be the size of an MGB. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Macy Larry To: Allen Hefner Cc: Spridgets list Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 11:08:19 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner Shoulda Flushed 'em instead On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > I just deleted 70 posts with "toilet" in them. From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Jun 3 09:30:21 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <304264757.30412.1307115021713.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> A small piece of trivia.. It was a British officer, at the end of WW2, that convinced the allies to rebuild the VW factory to provide badly needed transport. -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> After WWII, just who do you think it was that taught the Nipponese to build cars? From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 09:40:07 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:40:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: The Miata was born from the black hole in the roadster market created when the European car makers stopped making roadsters. They are getting close to 1 million produced. They combine classic roadster qualities with reliability that was somewhat lacking in previous roadsters. They carry on the economical roadster spirit started by the Sprite. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Just to throw spanner at Allen (very gently and slowly so there is plenty of > time to duck), what part of LBC does a Miata come from? From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 09:42:19 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:42:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <816322.37554.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <816322.37554.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gmail has similar filters. You should be able to filter by sender's name, too. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Jay wrote: > I just pulled the lever. > > It took me awhile, but I figured out where Yahoo Mail hides the filters. If > anyone need assistance, contact me offlist. From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 09:42:25 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:42:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <816322.37554.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <816322.37554.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2666598731980751213@unknownmsgid> > PS The Miata might have been influenced by the Elan but they pumped it up to be > the size of an MGB. But with less legroom than a Spridget. David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 10:32:24 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:32:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed In-Reply-To: References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: McMaster Carr??? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > You should be able to find a spring that will work. It's only a spring and > they are available in all sorts of sizes. > See http://www.harborfreight.com/200-piece-assorted-spring-set-67562.html > I would ask at a decent auto supply store and take the good spring with > you. Make sure to replace them both. > > You could buy a rebuilt starter, use the spring, and throw the rest > away...well, maybe that's not such a good idea. > > We have a starter/generator/alternator shop in Jenkintown, PA that is > totally old school. He has an antique test bench that he still uses. Lots > of big gauges mounted on a beautiful sheet of hardwood. He rebuilt a > starter for me once, that was SOOOO much better than the rebuilt I bought > from one of the usual sources...that didn't work. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Doug Altman > wrote: > > > Okay, guys, I really messed up this time. Original 1959 Mark 1 Bugeye > > 948cc. > > My starter wouldn't work. Tore it apart. All corroded inside so brushes > > would not move. Got everything cleaned and freed up but broke a brush > > spring > > in the process. They are old and brittle. None of the usual LBC parts > > suppliers carry them. Does anybody know where I can purchase a new set > or > > have cross reference numbers for a readily available set from a car parts > > store? Tomorrow I visit the only starter repair shop in the tri-cities > to > > see > > if they can help, but you know how that goes! Thanks. Doug ....o~'o > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 3 10:41:24 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:41:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed In-Reply-To: References: <574650.94268.qm@web125703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201106030941646.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Uh... no. Starter brush springs, like generator springs, are often (not always) a coil spring like a snail, and are specific to a starter number. I'm waiting for Doug to give me the starter number so he can have the correct part. Peter C === At 11:32 AM 6/3/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >McMaster Carr??? > >Cheers!! >Jim > >On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > > > You should be able to find a spring that will work. It's only a spring and > > they are available in all sorts of sizes. > > See http://www.harborfreight.com/200-piece-assorted-spring-set-67562.html > > I would ask at a decent auto supply store and take the good spring with > > you. Make sure to replace them both. > > > > You could buy a rebuilt starter, use the spring, and throw the rest > > away...well, maybe that's not such a good idea. > > > > We have a starter/generator/alternator shop in Jenkintown, PA that is > > totally old school. He has an antique test bench that he still uses. Lots > > of big gauges mounted on a beautiful sheet of hardwood. He rebuilt a > > starter for me once, that was SOOOO much better than the rebuilt I bought > > from one of the usual sources...that didn't work. > > > > Allen Hefner > > Norristown, PA > > > > *Current:* > > 2006 Chebbie > > *Former:* > > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > > 1964 VW Type I > > 1967 VW Type II > > 1967 Rover 2000TC > > 1977 MG Midget > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Doug Altman > > wrote: > > > > > Okay, guys, I really messed up this time. Original 1959 Mark 1 Bugeye > > > 948cc. > > > My starter wouldn't work. Tore it apart. All corroded inside so brushes > > > would not move. Got everything cleaned and freed up but broke a brush > > > spring > > > in the process. They are old and brittle. None of the usual LBC parts > > > suppliers carry them. Does anybody know where I can purchase a new set > > or > > > have cross reference numbers for a readily available set from a car parts > > > store? Tomorrow I visit the only starter repair shop in the tri-cities > > to > > > see > > > if they can help, but you know how that goes! Thanks. Doug ....o~'o > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > > > >-- >Cheers!! >Jim Johnson >Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! >Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 >Info & Registration here: >http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3677 - Release Date: 06/03/11 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jun 3 10:46:16 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Actual LBC!!!!!! Message-ID: <4f386.3fa7e881.3b1a69d8@aol.com> Moss won't be making the kit, just selling it. Kenlowe are hard to beat for quality in my limited experience. My experience is limited because I haven't managed to kill one yet in 26 years of Kenlowe use with the first fan, which was secondhand, being replaced by a later and lighter model. In a message dated 03/06/2011 12:55:15 GMT Daylight Time, kmappley at gmail.com writes: Wondering if anyone has had experience with Mo$$ electric fan kit or if anyone can recommend a better kit. [Reliability,ect] Kurt From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 10:57:14 2011 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:57:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Megasquirted Sprite In-Reply-To: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> References: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Glen, Do you have any notes/tips from this project that you are willing to share? I'm contemplating going this route as well, but with the Eaton supercharger instead of the turbo. Anything to assist getting pointed in the right direction would be a great help. Greg Gowins Driftwood, TX On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > It's been three years since I put the megasquirt computer in the turbo > bugeye. Good time to look back. > Since I finished the tuning and drove it 4k to LOTO and back '08, I've put > on thousands of miles, surprised and embarrassed a few Miatas and assorted > ricers in the hills, and NOT blown out another set of pistons! > > The same plugs are still in and look perfect, zero re-tuning, still cold > starts perfectly and pulls away from the garage like a modern engine. > > Overall this has made all the difference. To operate a 1275 with a turbo on > pump gas and get both town and country performance with dependability seemed > too much to ask but this has worked perfectly! > > Over 100hp, over 35mpg on a good day and down to 20mpg on a GREAT day. > > Bugsy runs so well I'm forced to spend all my time building model airplanes. > > Best, > Glen > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eric.t.cartman at gmail.com From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Jun 3 10:48:24 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:48:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <816322.37554.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0825B479-CC2E-4CAE-9913-0764C00D1F26@chartermi.net> > I worked for Mazda at their Tech Center in SoCal when the Miata was being designed and developed. The top two designers told me they were building a modern Bugeye. > > Rick > > Sent from my iPad > On Jun 3, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Jay wrote: > >> PS The Miata might have been influenced by the Elan but they pumped it up to be >> the size of an MGB. >> >> jay fishbein >> wallingford, ct From bkitterer at me.com Fri Jun 3 11:09:12 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:09:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <91699D21-DFA3-402A-8A43-4CC803533302@me.com> That would be going backwards Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > I just deleted 70 posts with "toilet" in them. > > And the Miata was designed after many of the 1960s LBCs. Them Japs loved > the Lotus Elan best of all. Maybe I can get an old Miata and drop a 1275 > from a Spridget in it. > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > >> Just to throw spanner at Allen (very gently and slowly so there is plenty >> of time to duck), what part of LBC does a Miata come from? >> >> However, I'm with Allen on this one, after the first couple of posts, the >> wind and toilet seem to have come together under the heading of 'Pure Verbal >> Garbage'. >> >> >> Guy R Day >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" <> >> To: "Allen Hefner" <> >> Cc: "Spridgets list" >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >> >> >> Allen, >>> >>> You may be right about the Miata... ;-) Especially when it comes to >>> maintenance and repair. I don't know if you have rental shops in >>> Norristown >>> or not, but they are available in a lot of cities. You bring your car, >>> tools >>> and parts, they furnish the space, the lights and power for a rental fee. >>> Some are even heated /AC. If I lived near you and had the space you'd be >>> more than welcome to park an LBC at my place and work on it as you wish. >>> Maybe some of the other group members - Eastern OSHIT group could work >>> that >>> sort of arrangement for you.... >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> Jim >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Allen Hefner <> wrote: >>> >>> Let's get back on topic. >>>> >>>> I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do >>>> "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the >>>> condos. >>>> I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. >>>> >>>> My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting >>>> of >>>> one, lone Chebbie. >>>> >>>> Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, >>>> I >>>> believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! >>>> Allen Hefner >>>> Norristown, PA > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From lists at dinospider.com Fri Jun 3 12:03:46 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:03:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] British Car Week In-Reply-To: References: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DE92202.7090007@dinospider.com> Weird man...I thoroughly enjoyed my British car week and I did the same thing you did, wire brushing, finished off with powder coating. Also lots of playing with the light saber of the metal world, my plasma cutter and even got to practice my TIG skills (I WAS VERY RUSTY). I drove my Italian car, it leaks oil every bit as much as a British car, does that count ? mike On 06/02/2011 06:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > You just hada rub it in, didn't you, Howard!! MY LBC is in pieces in the > garage and I most definitely did NOT enjoy all the wire brushing and sanding > I did this week trying to get it ready for paint.... I was going to wish > a blown head gasket on you for posting your weekend trip information, but I > felt better after a glass of vino on the patio and decided not to.... ;-) > > Seriously, have a great trip and post pictures! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:25 PM, wrote: > > >> >> I certainly hope you are all enjoying your British cars this week. It's >> almost over, so if you haven't already been, get out and drive yours more >> than usual. This weekend I'll be on a two-day 750 mile Mini Lap of Virginia >> for classic Mini's only. >> >> http://www.britishcarweek.org/ >> >> Howard Collins >> Virginia Beach, VA. >> '60 AH Bugeye Sprite >> '68 Austin Mini From haynes386 at netzero.net Fri Jun 3 11:55:07 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:55:07 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] MKII Grille Installation Message-ID: <20110603.115507.21711.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Since I bought the MKII with the grille in a box, I've never installed or removed a grille. when I got it, it had only one attachment tab left, so I cloned the one for the rest of the attachment points and its ready to go on. But it occurs to me that its pretty hard to get to the backsides of the attachment points if the radiator is in place. The radiator is next to go in, so I thought that I'd ask before I made it necessary to install and then remove and then reinstall the radiator to get the grille in. So, do I mount the grille or the radiator first? Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4de9226bdbee5239c13st06duc From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 12:17:27 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:17:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OFF TOPIC: since we were discussing toilets..... Message-ID: Blonde Joke A blonde goes over to her friend's house wearing a TGIF tee-shirt.The friend asks, "Why are you wearing a Thank God It's Friday tee-shirt on Monday?" 'Oh crap!', the blonde says. 'I didn't realize it was a religious T-shirt. I thought it meant Tits Go In Front.' -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jun 3 12:39:12 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:39:12 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: David, If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived from a British design!! They (and the Jeep) developed far enough away to be divorced. There is no doubt the Miata is a nice little car, there is no doubt it has a nice history but there is no doubt the Little British Car is not a Japanese vehicle. G*dd*m it!! They don't even leak oil (usually). :-) How can it be a LBC?? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >>> Just to throw spanner at Allen (very gently and slowly so there is >>> plenty >>> of time to duck), what part of LBC does a Miata come from? > > Guy, > After WWII, just who do you think it was that taught the Nipponese to > build cars? Why do you think the JDM cars are RHD? Not to say they > still leak oil, but I am sure it is easier to make a Miata leak oil > than it is to make a Spridget stop leaking oil... At its heart, the > Miata is an LBC. I have always been happy that I am into Spridgets > rather than MGBs, because a good Spridget is much more nimble than a > Miata, but IMHO the only thing an MGB does better than a Miata is > rust. > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 12:40:11 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:40:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] More Fuel pumps Message-ID: <90E1935C-4C61-40E8-A23D-8B95164F0D66@gmail.com> Hey, For those who asked; Facet Fuel pumps; http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/facetpumps.php They have good prices compared to some of the chain auto parts stores. Peter probably has these as well. Peter? Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From doug_altman at yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 12:43:45 2011 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 11:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Found! Message-ID: <428268.20713.qm@web125705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Guys - Thanks for all of the help! I didn't expect so many responses. I should have known to check with Peter first, since he seems to have everything. He took care of me right away. He is shipping them out today, I will probably have them tomorrow. He is my hero! Thanks again everybody. Doug ....o~'o From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 12:53:20 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 13:53:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: > If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived from > a British design!! Well, the original WWII Jeep was designed by the American Bantam Company of Butler, Pennsylvania, which had built Austin Sevens under license (like BMW had), so maybe there is a relationship there... David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 13:49:08 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:49:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] British Car Week In-Reply-To: <4DE92202.7090007@dinospider.com> References: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> <4DE92202.7090007@dinospider.com> Message-ID: It was near 100F every day this past week so working in the garage was a sweaty, no fun proposition. I thought Italian cars leaked marinara sauce? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > Weird man...I thoroughly enjoyed my British car week and I did the same > thing you did, wire brushing, finished off with powder coating. Also lots > of playing with the light saber of the metal world, my plasma cutter and > even got to practice my TIG skills (I WAS VERY RUSTY). > > I drove my Italian car, it leaks oil every bit as much as a British car, > does that count ? > > mike > > On 06/02/2011 06:00 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> You just hada rub it in, didn't you, Howard!! MY LBC is in pieces in the >> garage and I most definitely did NOT enjoy all the wire brushing and >> sanding >> I did this week trying to get it ready for paint.... I was going to >> wish >> a blown head gasket on you for posting your weekend trip information, but >> I >> felt better after a glass of vino on the patio and decided not to.... >> ;-) >> >> Seriously, have a great trip and post pictures! >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:25 PM, wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> I certainly hope you are all enjoying your British cars this week. It's >>> almost over, so if you haven't already been, get out and drive yours more >>> than usual. This weekend I'll be on a two-day 750 mile Mini Lap of >>> Virginia >>> for classic Mini's only. >>> >>> http://www.britishcarweek.org/ >>> >>> Howard Collins >>> Virginia Beach, VA. >>> '60 AH Bugeye Sprite >>> '68 Austin Mini >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 14:12:54 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:12:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Megasquirted Sprite In-Reply-To: References: <66A4A25B-3A00-46FA-B9CA-76E5B92CF643@gmail.com> Message-ID: The little used Eatons seem to be plentiful and cheap. A lot of Miata owners upgrade from the M45 to the M62 and some will sell the M45 pretty cheap. Also, there are takeoffs from Minis and others that people change out with very low miles on them. The beauty of the Megasquirt is it can also control timing, which is a good thing for forced induction. You can couple it with a Ford EDIS or other crank wheel trigger system. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 14:19:10 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:19:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: My Miata leaks a drop every once in a while from the valve cover onto the header, where it cooks off. It doesn't leak on the ground, though. Britain, and others, failed to keep the economical roadsters going. So, Mazda recognized the niche and filled it quite successfully, over 900,000 times. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jun 3 15:04:09 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Brush Springs Needed Message-ID: <10f6d.3c18ad91.3b1aa648@aol.com> I figured I could do that to the brushes on my Dyson DCO1 vacuum cleaner. When I switched it back it produced an impressive shower of sparks so I retired it. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 03/06/2011 15:00:22 GMT Daylight Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: too-long brushes to shape From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jun 3 15:10:46 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC Message-ID: <113b7.49467a6a.3b1aa7d6@aol.com> A while ago a black friend (Afro Caribbean) was talking to me and told me of a time in his youth when he'd got in with the wrong crowd and was racist, but wasn't any longer. I was very surprised as it had never occurred to me that black people could be racist against white people in a country in which they were a minority. I don't buy the Obama nationality conspiracy theory and in fact I think most conspiracy theories have a lot to do with a slow news day or someone flogging a book. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 03/06/2011 15:49:22 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Maybe: George Bush hates black people. Therefore if you like George Bush you must also hate black people? My problems with Obama aren't about his race. His citizenship is of more concern to me. People say that issue has been settled but it surely was squirrelly. It kinda popped up like a rabbit out of a hat all the sudden when it would have been much better if it had popped up a long time ago. Although I do not condone racism I feel that racists are entitled to their opinion. It seems OK to hate the majority, though, and that is racism, too. The NAACP, is, by definition, racist. Black Panthers intimidating people at polling places is racist. Why are some forms tolerated and others not? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jun 3 15:19:56 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:19:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC Message-ID: <1190d.1a1795f0.3b1aa9fb@aol.com> New neighbours a while back. So FF to today and there is a red Volvo P1800 outside their house and it's on unusual alloy wheels so I went out to take a couple of photos. Turns out it's the guy next doors Mum and she's owned it for 28 years. I never knew they made them with injection (the E) and so hers develops 120bhp, not sure how quick it'd go but I'd guess 110mph+/- 4. So any listers have any P1800 interest want to e-mail me. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 15:30:26 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:30:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] More Fuel pumps In-Reply-To: <90E1935C-4C61-40E8-A23D-8B95164F0D66@gmail.com> References: <90E1935C-4C61-40E8-A23D-8B95164F0D66@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54BA6FB8-C06F-480E-818C-AC25D9F64AAE@gmail.com> Hey....... And I neglected to mention that Ed at Justbrits probably has the as well. Ed? Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Jun 3, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > Hey, > > For those who asked; > > Facet Fuel pumps; > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/facetpumps.php > > They have good prices compared to some of the chain auto parts > stores. Peter probably has these as well. > > Peter? > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 3 15:50:22 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:50:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More Fuel pumps In-Reply-To: <90E1935C-4C61-40E8-A23D-8B95164F0D66@gmail.com> References: <90E1935C-4C61-40E8-A23D-8B95164F0D66@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201106031450162.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 01:40 PM 6/3/2011, Kevin Valentine wrote: >Hey, > >For those who asked; > >Facet Fuel pumps; > >Peter? =========== Well... I've used these pumps to empty fuel oil tanks, and may other apps. Have one in my Mini at the moment. Best was on my Land Rover. To expedite the roadside repair, I hung the fuel pump lashed to the outside door handle, with the inlet tube push into the fuel filler into the tank, and the outlet run under the hood to the carb. Worked great, and was quick to do. No silly splicing of hoses, or nuthin. Of course, with a Landy, "The Gods Must Be Crazy" gives one license. I might drive one to the 50th! Peter From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 15:51:54 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:51:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <113b7.49467a6a.3b1aa7d6@aol.com> References: <113b7.49467a6a.3b1aa7d6@aol.com> Message-ID: Ever heard of Harlam, Watts, Detroit, the "projects", Louis Farrakan, Rev. Wright, Malcom X, or the Black Panthers, Daniel? I'm afraid racism is a double edged sword in this country. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:10 PM, wrote: > A while ago a black friend (Afro Caribbean) was talking to me and told me > of a time in his youth when he'd got in with the wrong crowd and was > racist, > but wasn't any longer. I was very surprised as it had never occurred to > me that black people could be racist against white people in a country in > which they were a minority. > > I don't buy the Obama nationality conspiracy theory and in fact I think > most conspiracy theories have a lot to do with a slow news day or someone > flogging a book. > > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 03/06/2011 15:49:22 GMT Daylight Time, > derf247 at gmail.com > writes: > > Maybe: > George Bush hates black people. > Therefore if you like George Bush you must also hate black people? > > My problems with Obama aren't about his race. His citizenship is of > more concern to me. People say that issue has been settled but it > surely was squirrelly. It kinda popped up like a rabbit out of a hat > all the sudden when it would have been much better if it had popped up > a long time ago. > > Although I do not condone racism I feel that racists are entitled to > their opinion. It seems OK to hate the majority, though, and that is > racism, too. The NAACP, is, by definition, racist. Black Panthers > intimidating people at polling places is racist. Why are some forms > tolerated and others not? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 16:06:15 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:06:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak Message-ID: I am old enough to remember seeing new Triumph motorcycles sitting in the show room of a dealer. . . around 1968 -69 when in high school . . all with oil spots under them. The leak situation never seemed to discourage people from buying them. Just bringing back some memories. . Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 16:09:46 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:09:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc Message-ID: May I add that there is one more component that supercedes intelligence . . which is wisdom. Al Capone was said to have a very high IQ . . but he did not have wisdom to know how to use it. The stories run on and on of people who were very smart, but who were not wise! I would rather have a leader with a 135 IQ or whatever over a leader with a MENSA score. . yet who is also a fool. My two cents. . Kirk From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 16:57:03 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC In-Reply-To: <1190d.1a1795f0.3b1aa9fb@aol.com> Message-ID: <751647.83234.qm@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Her last name wouldn't be Templar, would it? Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo --- On Fri, 6/3/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 5:19 PM New neighbours a while back. So FF to today and there is a red Volvo P1800 outside their house and it's on unusual alloy wheels so I went out to take a couple of photos. Turns out it's the guy next doors Mum and she's owned it for 28 years. I never knew they made them with injection (the E) and so hers develops 120bhp, not sure how quick it'd go but I'd guess 110mph+/- 4. So any listers have any P1800 interest want to e-mail me. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick at yahoo.com From jackson.skip at yahoo.com Fri Jun 3 17:02:47 2011 From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc Message-ID: <718322.64538.qm@web46410.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The President is a genius at least in his ability to mask his total dedication to Marxism. He was a part time lecturer at Chicago Law school teaching Saul Alinsky's brand of radical socialism. And only let a few, "We have to share the wealth." statements slip during the campaign. His single mindedness to 'CHANGE' our country has to be admired. Hopefully he will be defeated next year. Skip Jackson Cincinnati Ohio From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jun 3 17:32:18 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC Message-ID: <28568A7D26354884B6A092A3AD42AD6A@spider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_P1800 I always liked the 1972 1800ES, a kamm back wagon. ...bill in corvallis (closest I every came was my last new car, 1967 Volvo 122S station wagon; $3750 loaded.) ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:20 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC New neighbours a while back. So FF to today and there is a red Volvo P1800 outside their house and it's on unusual alloy wheels so I went out to take a couple of photos. Turns out it's the guy next doors Mum and she's owned it for 28 years. I never knew they made them with injection (the E) and so hers develops 120bhp, not sure how quick it'd go but I'd guess 110mph+/- 4. So any listers have any P1800 interest want to e-mail me. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 _______________________________________________ From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 18:10:39 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:10:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Fan Kit Message-ID: Kurt, Almost my name as I get called "Kurt" all the time . . I ran one for a while. . it was fine. . kept the temps down as far as they could be brought down with the stock radiator at hot summer stoplights. My son had a Suzuki 16 valve Swift. I later used the radiator which is about the same as a Geo Metro radiator and from there on I have never seen the car come above 170 degrees (160 thermostat) during long sits at stop lights in 100 degree plus weather. I also use the fan from the Metro type radiator connected to a thermostat that I bought from Auto Zone to control when it turns on and off. If I were to do it all over again I would junk yard a Metro radiator and do the same thing again. And no doubt less money than the Moss fan kit. My radiator had over 100 thousand miles on it when I put it in 6 plus years ago and has been running fine since. The feed in and out of the Metro lines up with the stock radiator which makes it a fairly easy conversion. I did have to trim off a very small edge off the fan blades to avoid the steering rack. I also had to lean it back some to avoid the hood hitting the cap. I recall Frank saying something about the need to source the correct Metro radiator as the one that comes with an automatic car is too large for the Bugeye or vice versa? (Too tall) Someone on the list no doubt would know which is which . . to either source one from a stick shift car or from a Metro that had an automatic tranny? Kirk 59 1275 From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jun 3 18:16:31 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:16:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <113b7.49467a6a.3b1aa7d6@aol.com> References: <113b7.49467a6a.3b1aa7d6@aol.com> Message-ID: <821C2A8B7B324520944BBBC72AF1B730@Home> >it had never occurred to > me that black people could be racist against white people >in a country in which they were a minority. When my family moved to Hawaii in 1961, only 10% of the population was Caucasian, and most of those were sequestered on military bases. There were only three Caucasian families in our plantation town. But who were they? The #1 Boss, the #2 Boss, and the doctor. (The #3 Boss was married to a drop-dead-gorgeous Philippina, so he was "different.") Houses went with jobs in ascending distance from the plant and offices.... Etc. Yes there was prejudice and discrimination against the white minority. It was a colonial plantation culture of white bosses and dark workers - no surprise. My brother and sister had to go to elite private schools (not my parent's preference) because classes in the country schools were taught in pidgin, and they did not understand pidgin until much later. My sister went to the same school as Obama (obligatory Obama content). Of course, the impression was that they were to snooty to go to the local school.... Etc. Things have changed a lot. First, from my generation on, everyone started marrying everyone, so there were a lot of hapa (half = mixed-race) children. Second, half of the Western US States seem to have moved to Hawaii, so the Caucasian population is now 40%, mostly not born nor acculturated there, and Hawaii has become a suburb of California. But my mother-in-law still cares and can tell you the ethnicity of everyone she knows, and a lot of the people in her neighborhood she does not know. She can't complain too much, however, since all of her children and grandchildren married Caucasians. Aloha, Michael Rowe, Haole From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 18:29:04 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:29:04 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC In-Reply-To: <1190d.1a1795f0.3b1aa9fb@aol.com> References: <1190d.1a1795f0.3b1aa9fb@aol.com> Message-ID: Volvo started Bosch Electronic fuel injection in the p1800 and 142E in 1971. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:19:56 To: Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC New neighbours a while back. So FF to today and there is a red Volvo P1800 outside their house and it's on unusual alloy wheels so I went out to take a couple of photos. Turns out it's the guy next doors Mum and she's owned it for 28 years. I never knew they made them with injection (the E) and so hers develops 120bhp, not sure how quick it'd go but I'd guess 110mph+/- 4. So any listers have any P1800 interest want to e-mail me. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 19:09:08 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:09:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Fan Kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:10 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > > Someone on the list no doubt would know which is which . . to > either source > one from a stick shift car or from a Metro that had an automatic > tranny? > Guys, It needs to be the rad from the automatic tranny. The manual tranny is too tall and will interfere with the bonnet in both the Bugeye and later Spridgets. I have converted this radiator into 4 different cars it works :) 1 Bugeye, 2 late 70s cars and a 68 Midget. I have NOT tried this in a 1500 RB car........ Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 19:14:41 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:14:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Fan Kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16370EF2-49AE-4235-A6EA-6D01F88AD2B8@gmail.com> That was supposed to read, "2 early 70s cars" Not "2 LATE 70s cars" Also, the automatic transmission radiator has 2 fittings on the bottom where the transmission lines attach. (easy way to tell the difference when the radiator is out of the car). Kevin On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > > Guys, > > It needs to be the rad from the automatic tranny. The manual > tranny is too tall and will interfere with the bonnet in both the > Bugeye and later Spridgets. > > I have converted this radiator into 4 different cars it works :) 1 > Bugeye, 2 late 70s cars and a 68 Midget. I have NOT tried this > in a 1500 RB car........ > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri Jun 3 19:44:46 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:44:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 motor status In-Reply-To: <16370EF2-49AE-4235-A6EA-6D01F88AD2B8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110604014446.6G7LG.191222.root@cdptpa-web21-z01> Can I post about an actual Lbc engine? No potty or wind. I took my short block to my dad's shop and stripped it down, with the crank out I managed to drive out 3 pistons using a bfh. The 4th is stuck tight. I'm soaking it overnight w/ ph blaster then tomorrow one last try before we drive home. I think thE pistons will clean up and can be used, and the cylinders don't look all that bad. The wrist pins are stuck but can probably free up with a little work. Then w/ rings, gaskets and bearings I'll be back in business. It has sure been a lot of trouble so far. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jun 3 19:58:20 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:58:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 motor status In-Reply-To: <20110604014446.6G7LG.191222.root@cdptpa-web21-z01> References: <16370EF2-49AE-4235-A6EA-6D01F88AD2B8@gmail.com> <20110604014446.6G7LG.191222.root@cdptpa-web21-z01> Message-ID: <0D17395463A74D2B85543DE3893CB42D@spider> Work it in both directions; up then down. Work it. I spent a month getting some Mercedes pistons out, and the aluminum ring lands were powder from age. I finally used dry ice. ...bill in corvallis ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 6:45 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 motor status Can I post about an actual Lbc engine? No potty or wind. I took my short block to my dad's shop and stripped it down, with the crank out I managed to drive out 3 pistons using a bfh. The 4th is stuck tight. I'm soaking it overnight w/ ph blaster then tomorrow one last try before we drive home. I think thE pistons will clean up and can be used, and the cylinders don't look all that bad. The wrist pins are stuck but can probably free up with a little work. Then w/ rings, gaskets and bearings I'll be back in business. It has sure been a lot of trouble so far. _______________________________________________ From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 20:14:53 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:14:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kirk & All, I bought one of those new Triumphs in 1964. Still have it BTW, they don't leak, they're marking their territory! Herb On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I am old enough to remember seeing new Triumph motorcycles sitting in the > show room of a dealer. . . around 1968 -69 when in high school . . all > with > oil spots under them. The leak situation never seemed to discourage > people > from buying them. > > Just bringing back some memories. . > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jun 3 20:22:24 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1420550616.2346707.1307154144306.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> It's actually a factory installed maintenance system to make sure that the purchasers' driveways never rust. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Kirk Hargreaves" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 7:14:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak Kirk & All, I bought one of those new Triumphs in 1964. Still have it BTW, they don't leak, they're marking their territory! Herb From mdmyersct at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 20:30:08 2011 From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (mdmyersct at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 19:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] WSJ.com - The Most Beautiful Cars of Le Mans Message-ID: <2098561040.2529751307154608347.JavaMail.tomcat@localhost> *Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. Thought there might be some interest in this - Jaguar D type gives BC content ******************** If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the bottom of this email. Title: WSJ.com - The Most Beautiful Cars of Le Mans This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for up to seven days after it is e-mailed. 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Be sure to highlight the entire Web address, even if it spans more than one line in your email. 2. Select Copy from the Edit menu at the top of your screen. 3. Launch your Web browser. 4. Paste the address into your Web browser by selecting Paste from the Edit menu. 5. Click Go or press Enter or Return on your keyboard. ******************** From lmacy at mac.com Fri Jun 3 20:31:43 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:31:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC In-Reply-To: <28568A7D26354884B6A092A3AD42AD6A@spider> References: <28568A7D26354884B6A092A3AD42AD6A@spider> Message-ID: <8AA65EE6-8F9B-4803-9B2A-6A3F0F867348@mac.com> I hate to be picky, but the 1800 wagon is not a Kamm back. The Kamm back (Kamm Tail in Europe) is defined by a cut off back end (see Chevy Vega Kammback). The idea was first promulgated by Wunibald Kamm in the 1930's. The volvo is too sloped to be a Kammback. Although wikipedia calls the Prius one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback Larry Proud owner of a 1973 Chevy Vega Kammback wagon. Was a great car, no matter what anyone says. On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:32 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_P1800 > I always liked the 1972 1800ES, a kamm back wagon. ...bill in corvallis > (closest I every came was my last new car, 1967 Volvo 122S station wagon; > $3750 loaded.) > ========================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:20 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Volvo P1800E - not really LBC > > New neighbours a while back. So FF to today and there is a red Volvo > P1800 outside their house and it's on unusual alloy wheels so I went out to > take a couple of photos. > > Turns out it's the guy next doors Mum and she's owned it for 28 years. I > never knew they made them with injection (the E) and so hers develops > 120bhp, not sure how quick it'd go but I'd guess 110mph+/- 4. > > So any listers have any P1800 interest want to e-mail me. > > Regards > Weslake-Monza 1330 > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Secretary Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 21:36:50 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:36:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Worked with a guy in Houston who had 4 separate PhD's by the time he was 22. And they were in math and science!! We had to help him tie his shoes and occasionally had to go show him how to get to where he lived.... Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > May I add that there is one more component that supercedes intelligence . . > which is wisdom. Al Capone was said to have a very high IQ . . but he did > not have wisdom to know how to use it. The stories run on and on of > people > who were very smart, but who were not wise! > > I would rather have a leader with a 135 IQ or whatever over a leader with a > MENSA score. . yet who is also a fool. > > My two cents. . > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 21:49:51 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:49:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You just didn't notice the right people... By 1967 had my fill of leaky Brit iron and Hardleys that fall apart just sitting there and bought my first BMW. No chain, no leaks and 180,000 miles later have only been inside it once and bought 2 more to sit with it in the stable. Cheers!! Jim - Those aren't memories - they're nightmares.... On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I am old enough to remember seeing new Triumph motorcycles sitting in the > show room of a dealer. . . around 1968 -69 when in high school . . all > with > oil spots under them. The leak situation never seemed to discourage > people > from buying them. > > Just bringing back some memories. . > > Kirk > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 21:57:01 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:57:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Car #37 Message-ID: Just got a picture emailed to me from a buddy that manages a hotel over by Kentucky Speedway of a nice looking RWA, green MG Midget racer with yellow roundels and #37 on the doors. Just curious ... Is this someone here on our list? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 3 22:34:07 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:34:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1CBEE49EC9934BCE990FCE3A61B8CE64@HomePC> So Jim, what are you doing with a Spridget? I agree with you on this stuff. My Austin Ute and my wife's MGB both pee on the driveway. I owned a Hardley once and thought it was a POS. I rode my brother's Hardley and at 65mph it vibrated so bad you couldn't read the speedo. Yet, I like these Brit cars. I have no idea why. Do you? -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:49 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak You just didn't notice the right people... By 1967 had my fill of leaky Brit iron and Hardleys that fall apart just sitting there and bought my first BMW. No chain, no leaks and 180,000 miles later have only been inside it once and bought 2 more to sit with it in the stable. Cheers!! Jim - Those aren't memories - they're nightmares.... On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I am old enough to remember seeing new Triumph motorcycles sitting in the > show room of a dealer. . . around 1968 -69 when in high school . . all > with > oil spots under them. The leak situation never seemed to discourage > people > from buying them. > > Just bringing back some memories. . > > Kirk > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jun 3 22:46:49 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <113b7.49467a6a.3b1aa7d6@aol.com> Message-ID: <4DE9B8B9.8060304@justbrits.com> Tsk, Tsk, Jim............ << Ever heard of Harlam, Watts, Detroit, the "projects", Louis Farrakan, Rev. Wright, Malcom X, or the Black Panthers, Daniel? >> YOU must be one yourself as you omitted the MOST [self- appointed] IMPOTANATE of ALL ['time' included ] !! I will call Jessie's Office tomorrow so expect his "Bus & Boys" Monday or Tuesday right THERE in Dodge City !! They WILL, I'm sure' be happy to "Re-train" you !! Perhaps your 'luck' will hold and he'll drag Jr. along ! Now with THAT much National Media Exposure [along with his "talent" for the UN-FUNDED Re-training Program] is bound to get the attention of; and therefore a visit from the renter of 1600 Penn. Ave, NW. ! ! Tell us, how big will the WELCOMING [by the Citizens of Dodge City ] Parties be for all dem folks ? ? ? From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 22:50:08 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 23:50:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak In-Reply-To: <1CBEE49EC9934BCE990FCE3A61B8CE64@HomePC> References: <1CBEE49EC9934BCE990FCE3A61B8CE64@HomePC> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Yet, I like these Brit cars. I have no idea why. Do you? I have no idea either Larry; but I sure know I'm gonna miss mine if I quit dragging my feet and get it listed for sale this month like I've promised SWMBO. And I'm sure that (hopefully, just) a few years down the road I'll buy another. Almost feels like an addiction. I haven't stopped yet and I already feel a craving for more. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 22:50:00 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:50:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter electrical question Message-ID: <1ABA8C9A-A81B-4D8E-A433-472D86AE910C@gmail.com> ALL, I'm working on a Midget that would start when cold, but will not turn over very fast when warm or hot. I know the problem was the starter but would like to know why? Why will a warm or hot starter not work as well as a cold starter? More resistance? Closer clearances? At first I thought it was the battery, but I put in a new (fully charged) battery while the starter was hot and it would not spin fast enough to start. I let it cool down and it spun quickly again. I took the starter out while it was hot and could barely get it to spin on the bench.... After it cooled, it spun freely. I've changed the starter and all is well. Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From nsippel at mindspring.com Thu Jun 2 17:29:59 2011 From: nsippel at mindspring.com (Norm) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 19:29:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Off-Topic Posts Message-ID: <00bd01cc217c$fd96edd0$6401a8c0@normoffice> I guess I haven't been reading the Spridget Digest much lately. Too busy with the next issue, prepping to teach old people safe driving, working on my 948 engine & painting the Turner. I missed a lot of this recent nonsense about who's right & who's wrong. Left, Right, Radical, Liberal, Educated, un-educated, smart, dumb. No matter. Politicians are mostly jerks who are out to steal as much as they can for themselves and their friends & the hell with the taxpaying public (that excludes companies & people who don't pay their share of taxes.). And, the "unbiased" "news" sources that enflame hatred in this country are no better. And, the bloggers? Some of the junk that passes for fact is so blatantly false I can't believe that people actually believe it. If I started a blog &/or sent out email blasts in 18-point type that said that Tata was going to build Bugeye Sprites in Afghanistan & it was checked with Snopes, would you believe it? Based on the emails I get from some "friends" you should. That's what they hope. When I have the time, I love refuting their lies & telling them to send it to all in their address books as a "MUST READ." Guaranteed they never do. The truth hurts. Enough. Back to work on the Turner. Norm Sippel From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 4 02:31:15 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:31:15 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Well thought through David. However, I don't think you can make a serious claim the Jeep was a British design and I would suggest Nippon Miata groups whilst acknowledging the Miata to be generally based on British design would not claim it to be a LBC. Bits of it may well be improved (and other bits not improved) copies based on LBCs but it certainly sticks in my throat to say a Mazda is a British car - just as it would to claim a Jeep is British. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Guy R Day" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >> If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived >> from >> a British design!! > > Well, the original WWII Jeep was designed by the American Bantam > Company of Butler, Pennsylvania, which had built Austin Sevens under > license (like BMW had), so maybe there is a relationship there... > David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 04:11:40 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 05:11:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <591325325979440279@unknownmsgid> Guy, I agree with you. Neither the Jeep nor the Miata are British cars. In the case of the Miata, however, there was a deliberate attempt to clone some Brit DNA and build the 2-seat convertible sports car that was no longer available from Britain. The Brits immediately upped the ante with the MGRV8, but unfortunately they were merely posturing and couldn't be bothered to make it for the USian market. In any case, the market here was largely people who had previously owned LBCs and they frequently refer to the Yada as the modern interpretation of the British sports car. Take it as a compliment. David L From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 04:17:55 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 05:17:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter electrical question In-Reply-To: <1ABA8C9A-A81B-4D8E-A433-472D86AE910C@gmail.com> References: <1ABA8C9A-A81B-4D8E-A433-472D86AE910C@gmail.com> Message-ID: The bushing on the back plate of the starter, may be worn, allowing the armature to drop slightly, and distance in the field to be compromised. That may cause drag. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > ALL, > > I'm working on a Midget that would start when cold, but will not turn over > very fast when warm or hot. I know the problem was the starter but would > like to know why? Why will a warm or hot starter not work as well as a cold > starter? More resistance? Closer clearances? > > At first I thought it was the battery, but I put in a new (fully charged) > battery while the starter was hot and it would not spin fast enough to > start. I let it cool down and it spun quickly again. I took the starter > out while it was hot and could barely get it to spin on the bench.... After > it cooled, it spun freely. > > I've changed the starter and all is well. > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 04:23:01 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 05:23:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <-6463596691765256366@unknownmsgid> AND, people here love their Miatas in much the same way that they loved their LBC. Very different from the way they like other cars, even the S2000. David L From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Jun 4 06:43:06 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <1498503941.2348755.1307191265226.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1843923651.2348777.1307191385998.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Jeep people tend to be the same. I have found that Jeeps have individual personalities much the same as Spridgets. Although the driving is a completely different type, being off road, it still provides a thrill comparable to driving an LBC around a twisty road. I have also found the Jeep list to be almost as supportive as you guys. Note the almost. They are generous with advice, including step by step pictures, but tend to hang onto their spares - just in case. Kate Madge -1972 MG Midget Deuce - 1987 Jeep Comanche pickup Ol' Blue - 1989 Jeep Cherokee AND, people here love their Miatas in much the same way that they loved their LBC. Very different from the way they like other cars, even the S2000. David L Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From kristi74midget at comcast.net Sat Jun 4 07:02:53 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:02:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Philly_MG_Club] Cars of England Show Message-ID: <0649AFE9-3BA1-4E65-8590-A6CD874F7ED8@comcast.net> Just an FYI - I was asked to forward this to the list since Ryan is not sure if his message went through. If you are interested please contact Ryan at 215-850-5424. Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget '77 RB Midget Begin forwarded message: > From: "ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net" > Date: June 4, 2011 8:46:56 AM EDT > To: "Steve Harding" , "Philly MG Club" > Subject: Re: [Philly_MG_Club] Cars of England Show > Reply-To: Philly_MG_Club at yahoogroups.com > > > Mgb mga mgt auction todAy in southhampton pa 689 pickering road southhanpton pa starting now lots of stuff. > Ryan > I am here. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Steve Harding" > Date: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 7:32 pm > Subject: [Philly_MG_Club] Cars of England Show > To: "Philly MG Club" > > > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Trip Arnold > > Date: June 3, 2011 9:02:22 AM EDT > > To: Steve Harding > > Subject: Re: [Philly_MG_Club] Cars of England Show > > > > > Hi Steve: > > > > We're leaving now for the Rallye to Reno. > > Please wish us luck, and a prayer or two would be nice as well! > > > > Please let the rest of the "Belleville" crew know we wish you all were going. > > > > Trip > > > > From: Steve Harding > > To: Philly_MG_Club at yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 10:13:36 PM > > Subject: [Philly_MG_Club] Cars of England Show > > > > Dear Club Members, > > Our first event for June is the "Cars of England Show" at Oakbourne Mansion in Westtown, PA. This is The Delaware Valley Triumph Club's annual car show. It is a lovely site, although not a whole lot of shade where the MGs are parked. Should be a great day for MG driving. See you there, Steve > > > > > > > > > __._,_.___ > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: > Visit Your Group > Visit the Philadelphia MG Club Website > http://phillymgclub.com > Submit info for the website to > lmacy at mac.com, bandwmoyer at verizon.net > > Add photos to the Yahoo site > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Philly_MG_Club/ > > You can also add Calendar items (so I don't have to do it all the time ;-) > > Thanks > Larry B. Macy > Moderator > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest  Unsubscribe  Terms of Use > . > > __,_._,___ From kristi74midget at comcast.net Sat Jun 4 07:35:09 2011 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:35:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MG parts auction - 2nd time edited Message-ID: <6A5AC1E3-62F0-4710-ABB7-EE1F7262C990@comcast.net> I forgot to edit the message I just sent to the list for Ryan. The only part that is needed for the FYI part is this: Just an FYI - I was asked to forward this to the list since Ryan is not sure if his message went through. If you are interested please contact Ryan at 215-850-5424. > > Mgb mga mgt auction todAy in southhampton pa 689 pickering road southhanpton pa starting now lots of stuff. > Ryan > I am here. Kristi & Lambert '74 RWA Midget From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 08:18:12 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:18:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Haysoos marimba, kool yer jets! I only asked about the best car for me, living in a condo with no garage or place to work on a car. I don't think anybody seriously believes the Miata or the Jeep are Brit Cars. They both have tenuous connections to the wonderful heritage Great Britain brought to sports car history, but NO newcomer will ever be more important or more loved than the early MG T-series that started it all. The Spridget is a DIRECT descendent of the MG-TC. The Miata and Jeep are "world cars." End of line Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > Well thought through David. > However, I don't think you can make a serious claim the Jeep was a British > design and I would suggest Nippon Miata groups whilst acknowledging the > Miata to be generally based on British design would not claim it to be a > LBC. Bits of it may well be improved (and other bits not improved) copies > based on LBCs but it certainly sticks in my throat to say a Mazda is a > British car - just as it would to claim a Jeep is British. > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > To: "Guy R Day" ; "Spridgets" < > spridgets at autox.team.net> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > > > If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived >>> from >>> a British design!! >>> >> >> Well, the original WWII Jeep was designed by the American Bantam >> Company of Butler, Pennsylvania, which had built Austin Sevens under >> license (like BMW had), so maybe there is a relationship there... >> David L >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From lmacy at mac.com Sat Jun 4 08:56:26 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:56:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <591325325979440279@unknownmsgid> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> <591325325979440279@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <5537CF43-A9AF-4D3F-AE72-FA0D17AB167A@mac.com> One of the original Miata ads had the silhouette of an MGB behind the Miata. So tell me it was not an attempt to retrieve old Brit feelings. Larry -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. Sent from my Magical iPad On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:11 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Guy, > I agree with you. Neither the Jeep nor the Miata are British cars. In > the case of the Miata, however, there was a deliberate attempt to > clone some Brit DNA and build the 2-seat convertible sports car that > was no longer available from Britain. The Brits immediately upped the > ante with the MGRV8, but unfortunately they were merely posturing and > couldn't be bothered to make it for the USian market. > > In any case, the market here was largely people who had previously > owned LBCs and they frequently refer to the Yada as the modern > interpretation of the British sports car. Take it as a compliment. > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com From lmacy at mac.com Sat Jun 4 08:57:24 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:57:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <8578A80A-0602-4F75-ACF3-EEB8588574E4@mac.com> And remember that the real name of the T and Y series was Midget. Larry -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. Sent from my Magical iPad On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Haysoos marimba, kool yer jets! I only asked about the best car for me, > living in a condo with no garage or place to work on a car. > > I don't think anybody seriously believes the Miata or the Jeep are Brit > Cars. They both have tenuous connections to the wonderful heritage Great > Britain brought to sports car history, but NO newcomer will ever be more > important or more loved than the early MG T-series that started it all. The > Spridget is a DIRECT descendent of the MG-TC. > > The Miata and Jeep are "world cars." > > End of line > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > >> Well thought through David. >> However, I don't think you can make a serious claim the Jeep was a British >> design and I would suggest Nippon Miata groups whilst acknowledging the >> Miata to be generally based on British design would not claim it to be a >> LBC. Bits of it may well be improved (and other bits not improved) copies >> based on LBCs but it certainly sticks in my throat to say a Mazda is a >> British car - just as it would to claim a Jeep is British. >> Guy R Day >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> >> To: "Guy R Day" ; "Spridgets" < >> spridgets at autox.team.net> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >> >> >> If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived >>>> from >>>> a British design!! >>>> >>> >>> Well, the original WWII Jeep was designed by the American Bantam >>> Company of Butler, Pennsylvania, which had built Austin Sevens under >>> license (like BMW had), so maybe there is a relationship there... >>> David L >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Jun 4 11:23:52 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:23:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th Message-ID: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> Both of my Sprites are long, long, loooonnnggg time restoration projects that are not drivable yet. So yesterday I bought a '79 Midget to drive to the 50th party. Roll-up windows and a funny looking lump under the bonnet Who'd a thunk it. Rick '59 & '61 Sprites and now a strange '79 Midget From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jun 4 11:41:11 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:41:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net> Rick, Way to GO!! Now dog-gone it, you coulda rented a trailer and brought out both cars and we would've completed them for you; shoot we had 4 days!! About the lump...do we need a Nasty Boy category?? ;-) Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 6/4/2011 12:23 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Both of my Sprites are long, long, loooonnnggg time restoration projects that > are not drivable yet. So yesterday I bought a '79 Midget to drive to the 50th > party. Roll-up windows and a funny looking lump under the bonnet Who'd a > thunk it. > > Rick > '59& '61 Sprites and now a strange '79 Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From frog.aye at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 12:00:56 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:00:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice 62 on eBay.....2.1K buy now. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lin, Nice looking car. But what's with that VIN? Hal On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > *http://tinyurl.com/445gtkw > Lin > * > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 4 12:14:26 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator Message-ID: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've been thinking about a change to a Metro Radiator, having an issue with high speed sustained driving and temps climbing too much as a result of going to a BE Bonnet on my '68 Spridget. Fine around town but at 60-65 + sustained temps climb up. Frank used one from an Automatic Metro 88-92 Vintage. The one from the Manual Tranny Cars was taller and would not fit. When looking on line I ran across one shop advertising a Triple Row Core, without a transmission cooler that showed dimensions of 12 3/4 x 12 3/4 and 1.5 " thick in Aluminum for $130. This is significantly shorter than the one out of the MEtro and although I haven't measured would likely fit in there without modifying the radiator shroud. I have several pics of Frank's Metro Radiator install in PIECES that I would be happy to forward. There are some pics on the Sprite Spot.com site under cooling showing Frank's radiator setup., From frog.aye at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 12:16:41 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:16:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <74DC971B-0B2C-4826-8BD9-9F315176B1A3@comcast.net> <53D07EBB6D3B4597B38D1772720856FD@HomePC> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Lester wrote: " and thank God he put in tax cuts!" If tax cuts are an important gift your God is to be thanked for, I'm proud to be agnostic. Hal From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jun 4 12:25:16 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 11:25:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Fine around town but at 60-65 + > sustained temps climb Are you sure your bottom hose is firm? (no jokes please) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 13:09:32 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:09:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Depends.... On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Fine around town but at 60-65 + > > sustained temps climb > Are you sure your bottom hose is firm? (no jokes please) > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 4 13:34:14 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:34:14 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> <591325325979440279@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <46551126383B418D8C81CC33E442DB83@user8634b3d69b> David, It is taken as one but nevertheless, it is with regret, the term LBC should not be applied to what is a Japanese car. All the best Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > Guy, > I agree with you. Neither the Jeep nor the Miata are British cars. In > the case of the Miata, however, there was a deliberate attempt to > clone some Brit DNA and build the 2-seat convertible sports car that > was no longer available from Britain. The Brits immediately upped the > ante with the MGRV8, but unfortunately they were merely posturing and > couldn't be bothered to make it for the USian market. > > In any case, the market here was largely people who had previously > owned LBCs and they frequently refer to the Yada as the modern > interpretation of the British sports car. Take it as a compliment. > David L From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 4 13:36:12 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:36:12 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b><5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Allen, You may well be quite right. There is no hot air at this end. Regards, Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Hefner" To: "Spridgets list" Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > Haysoos marimba, kool yer jets! I only asked about the best car for me, > living in a condo with no garage or place to work on a car. > > I don't think anybody seriously believes the Miata or the Jeep are Brit > Cars. They both have tenuous connections to the wonderful heritage Great > Britain brought to sports car history, but NO newcomer will ever be more > important or more loved than the early MG T-series that started it all. > The > Spridget is a DIRECT descendent of the MG-TC. > > The Miata and Jeep are "world cars." > > End of line > > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Guy R Day wrote: > >> Well thought through David. >> However, I don't think you can make a serious claim the Jeep was a >> British >> design and I would suggest Nippon Miata groups whilst acknowledging the >> Miata to be generally based on British design would not claim it to be a >> LBC. Bits of it may well be improved (and other bits not improved) >> copies >> based on LBCs but it certainly sticks in my throat to say a Mazda is a >> British car - just as it would to claim a Jeep is British. >> Guy R Day >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> >> To: "Guy R Day" ; "Spridgets" < >> spridgets at autox.team.net> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >> >> >> If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived >>>> from >>>> a British design!! >>>> >>> >>> Well, the original WWII Jeep was designed by the American Bantam >>> Company of Butler, Pennsylvania, which had built Austin Sevens under >>> license (like BMW had), so maybe there is a relationship there... >>> David L >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:10:37 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:10:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If you get good air flow at lower speeds you should get good flow at 65. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> Fine around town but at 60-65 + >> sustained temps climb > Are you sure your bottom hose is firm? (no jokes please) From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:12:12 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:12:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <46551126383B418D8C81CC33E442DB83@user8634b3d69b> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> <591325325979440279@unknownmsgid> <46551126383B418D8C81CC33E442DB83@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Right. Aren't they called MX-5s in the UK? On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > David, > > It is taken as one but nevertheless, it is with regret, the term LBC should > not be applied to what is a Japanese car. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:36:35 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:36:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Fan Kit In-Reply-To: <16370EF2-49AE-4235-A6EA-6D01F88AD2B8@gmail.com> References: <16370EF2-49AE-4235-A6EA-6D01F88AD2B8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin, Thanks for the clarification on radiator types. . My radiator from the Suzuki does hit the underside of the bonnet . . the cap hits it just a bit. I was able to angle it back enough so that this is not a problem. . but it might be that the radiator I am using is more like one from a manual gear box car. . and the Swift was also a manual car. I have been so happy with the way it runs so cool all the time. And it is not any bigger than the stock radiator in terms of rows . . or size? So it eludes me as to why it is so much more efficient? Kirk On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > That was supposed to read, "2 early 70s cars" Not "2 LATE 70s cars" > > Also, the automatic transmission radiator has 2 fittings on the bottom > where the transmission lines attach. (easy way to tell the difference when > the radiator is out of the car). > > Kevin > > > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > > > Guys, > > It needs to be the rad from the automatic tranny. The manual tranny is too > tall and will interfere with the bonnet in both the Bugeye and later > Spridgets. > > I have converted this radiator into 4 different cars it works :) 1 Bugeye, > 2 late 70s cars and a 68 Midget. I have NOT tried this in a 1500 RB > car........ > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:37:33 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:37:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mine marked a lot of territory . .so much so my dog began to get jealous. . Kirk On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:14 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Kirk & All, > > I bought one of those new Triumphs in 1964. Still have it > > BTW, they don't leak, they're marking their territory! > > Herb > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > >> I am old enough to remember seeing new Triumph motorcycles sitting in the >> show room of a dealer. . . around 1968 -69 when in high school . . all >> with >> oil spots under them. The leak situation never seemed to discourage >> people >> from buying them. >> >> Just bringing back some memories. . >> >> Kirk >> _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:47:39 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:47:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: Ummm Allen... The MG line goes back well before the T-series... The first "Midget" was the M-type in 1929.... http://www.mgabingdon.co.uk/timeline/index.html That said, the TC was the first MG imported into the US post WWII.... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > Allen, > You may well be quite right. > There is no hot air at this end. > > Regards, > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Hefner" > To: "Spridgets list" > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > > > Haysoos marimba, kool yer jets! I only asked about the best car for me, >> living in a condo with no garage or place to work on a car. >> >> I don't think anybody seriously believes the Miata or the Jeep are Brit >> Cars. They both have tenuous connections to the wonderful heritage Great >> Britain brought to sports car history, but NO newcomer will ever be more >> important or more loved than the early MG T-series that started it all. >> The >> Spridget is a DIRECT descendent of the MG-TC. >> >> The Miata and Jeep are "world cars." >> >> End of line >> >> Allen Hefner >> Norristown, PA >> >> *Current:* >> 2006 Chebbie >> *Former:* >> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >> 1964 VW Type I >> 1967 VW Type II >> 1967 Rover 2000TC >> 1977 MG Midget >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Guy R Day wrote: >> >> Well thought through David. >>> However, I don't think you can make a serious claim the Jeep was a >>> British >>> design and I would suggest Nippon Miata groups whilst acknowledging the >>> Miata to be generally based on British design would not claim it to be a >>> LBC. Bits of it may well be improved (and other bits not improved) >>> copies >>> based on LBCs but it certainly sticks in my throat to say a Mazda is a >>> British car - just as it would to claim a Jeep is British. >>> >>> Guy R Day >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> >>> To: "Guy R Day" ; "Spridgets" < >>> spridgets at autox.team.net> >>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:53 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >>> >>> >>> If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived >>> >>>> from >>>>> a British design!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well, the original WWII Jeep was designed by the American Bantam >>>> Company of Butler, Pennsylvania, which had built Austin Sevens under >>>> license (like BMW had), so maybe there is a relationship there... >>>> David L >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 15:06:22 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:06:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Weelllllllllll..... Not exactly, derf... (my fluid dynamics kicks in here...) The elements in the core of the radiator act as "obstacles in the flow". Think of the airflow as a liquid (it is, in fact, a fluid). Certain patterns of obstacles can set up a perturbation and blocking wave pattern just upstream of the obstacle which can interrupt the flow over the elements. All radiators will do this to some extent. It is the reason why an electric fan "forcing" a "turbulent flow" into the elements is more efficient in getting air through the radiator and thus cooling. There are additional problems with turbulence once the air gets into the core of the radiator, but they are way more complicated than the blocking pattern on its surface. The great fluid dynamicist Theodore Von Karman is supposed to have said; "When I die I expect God will reveal the Grand Unifying Theory of physics to me. I have no such hopes for turbulence." Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, derf wrote: > If you get good air flow at lower speeds you should get good flow at 65. > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom > wrote: > >> Fine around town but at 60-65 + > >> sustained temps climb > > Are you sure your bottom hose is firm? (no jokes please) > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 15:54:46 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:54:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata's In England Message-ID: Guy, On our recent trip having driven over 600 miles, plus many more riding the Underground and popping up into different cities I do not recall seeing very many Miata's. Possibly two or three tops. I spotted more of the new MG's (by a few) and a lot of the new Fiat 500's running the roads. I counted only three LBC's. . one a Morris Minor wagon and a couple of Mini Coopers (the classic Mini's). There were also a lot of Smart Cars in France and a good share of the new Mini Coopers in the UK. It looks, from the experience we had, that the Miata is not as popular in England as it is in California where we see them on our roads on a regular basis? Is the Miata seen as a usurper to the classic days of real Brit sports cars? Just some thoughts regarding as I was surprised that we did not see the Miata as a car of interest while over there. I would have loved to have had my Bugeye while there. Kirk From bkitterer at me.com Sat Jun 4 16:19:03 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:19:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> <591325325979440279@unknownmsgid> <46551126383B418D8C81CC33E442DB83@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <4D254B3C-8BDC-4A93-9385-CAE8A3EAFCBB@me.com> They have always been MX-5's. For the first 20 years Mazda had license for the use of the Miata name. When the license came up for renewal the owner of the name wanted to much money so Mazda stopped using the name. But in North America, at least, it is still called a Miata by the enthusiastic and probably the general public. It is a great car and with the retractable hard top it gives you the benefit of a convertible with the security of a fixed top car. It has been my feeling since getting one in 2000 that if Donald was still with us this is where he would have taken the Sprite. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:12 PM, derf wrote: > Right. Aren't they called MX-5s in the UK? From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 16:20:08 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:20:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] P-1800 at 1.69 million miles.. . Guinness Book of World Records Message-ID: I remember reading this story. . . P-1800 Gordon logged 500,000 miles in 10 years. In 1998 with 1.69 million miles, he made the Guinness Book of World Records for most miles driven by a single owner in a non-commercial vehicle. He continues to drive his car every day. Interesting story: http://www.zercustoms.com/news/1966-Volvo-P1800-Hits-2.6-Million-Miles-Mark.html Kirk From bkitterer at me.com Sat Jun 4 16:20:56 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:20:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Miata's In England In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6AE8C0F1-4C13-4758-94B6-74BEB730981F@me.com> I think that the USA was the main market for the Miata, just as was the case for the big and little Healey's. My 2000 SE had a limited production of 6,000 cars. Of these 3K came to the USA, 1K stayed in Japan and the remaining 2K went to the rest of the world. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 4, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Guy, > > > On our recent trip having driven over 600 miles, plus many more riding the > Underground and popping up into different cities I do not recall seeing very > many Miata's. Possibly two or three tops. I spotted more of the new MG's > (by a few) and a lot of the new Fiat 500's running the roads. > > I counted only three LBC's. . one a Morris Minor wagon and a couple of Mini > Coopers (the classic Mini's). There were also a lot of Smart Cars in France > and a good share of the new Mini Coopers in the UK. > > It looks, from the experience we had, that the Miata is not as popular in > England as it is in California where we see them on our roads on a regular > basis? > > Is the Miata seen as a usurper to the classic days of real Brit sports > cars? > > Just some thoughts regarding as I was surprised that we did not see the > Miata as a car of interest while over there. > > I would have loved to have had my Bugeye while there. > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jun 4 16:33:50 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Non-slip concrete-No LBC, toilets, or politics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I need a non-slip finish for forty year old outdoor concrete. Any suggestions or recommendations? I don't trust any product that's legal in California, but I'm not opposed to smuggling something in. BZ From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 4 16:38:09 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:38:09 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b><5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b><591325325979440279@unknownmsgid><46551126383B418D8C81CC33E442DB83@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <06AD4F17B2BD4D3CA8A1B29A539DA5FC@user8634b3d69b> Yes, over here they are the MX-5 and have been through quite a few variants. We had a look at getting one shortly after the MGF was launched but opted for the MG instead. That was a good car that never let us down except for water leaks through the side windows. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > Right. Aren't they called MX-5s in the UK? > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Guy R Day wrote: >> David, >> >> It is taken as one but nevertheless, it is with regret, the term LBC >> should >> not be applied to what is a Japanese car. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 16:38:15 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:38:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Prejudice Hawaii Message-ID: I have to add that there is also heavy prejudice on the North Shore of Oahu where the worlds famous surfing beaches exist . . from the Pipeline to Waimea Bay. The prejudice is palpable as it is directed at tourists, no matter what the race. When we were there an Australian man was nearly beaten to death just for being in the area. (It was in the local papers). It was said that he was just walking along by himself in front of the area where the small Catholic church exists above the parking for Waimea Bay. A gang of locals decided to take their angst out on him. I pride myself, having surfed the competition circuit for so many years when younger, in terms of knowing how to walk and blend in "as much as possible." However . . if a gang of locals, including caucasians in the gang (which being caucasian is not a factor as it used to be) is in a mood they can still take their anger against tourists out on you. We spent three days on the North Shore in the winter when the waves are breaking 20 + feet watching the surfing activity. (Me being too old and out of shape to paddle out in that stuff as I did when I was in my early 20's.) Just made me remember. . I was on my toes keeping an eye out for angst amongst any group of locals that might be walking by. Kirk From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 16:41:12 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:41:12 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: <06AD4F17B2BD4D3CA8A1B29A539DA5FC@user8634b3d69b> References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b><5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b><591325325979440279@unknownmsgid><46551126383B418D8C81CC33E442DB83@user8634b3d69b><06AD4F17B2BD4D3CA8A1B29A539DA5FC@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: That is not a water leak, but a weather indicator. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: "Guy R Day" Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:38:09 To: derf Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner Yes, over here they are the MX-5 and have been through quite a few variants. We had a look at getting one shortly after the MGF was launched but opted for the MG instead. That was a good car that never let us down except for water leaks through the side windows. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Guy R Day" Cc: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner > Right. Aren't they called MX-5s in the UK? > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Guy R Day wrote: >> David, >> >> It is taken as one but nevertheless, it is with regret, the term LBC >> should >> not be applied to what is a Japanese car. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 18:18:59 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:18:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Non-slip concrete-No LBC, toilets, or politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Billy, Recent renovation of our 100 year old Carnegie library building included coating the limestone steps with a gray substance that is full of something grainy. I'll see if I can find out what it is and let you know... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > I need a non-slip finish for forty year old outdoor concrete. Any > suggestions or recommendations? I don't trust any product that's legal in > California, but I'm not opposed to smuggling something in. > BZ > ____ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jun 4 18:25:50 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:25:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Non-slip concrete-No LBC, toilets, or politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6F5CB33BCE41409EB84A987C0A5B3065@spider> Would sand blasting work? ...except for the dust. ...bill ==================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 5:19 PM Cc: spridgets_autox.team.net list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Non-slip concrete-No LBC, toilets, or politics Billy, Recent renovation of our 100 year old Carnegie library building included coating the limestone steps with a gray substance that is full of something grainy. I'll see if I can find out what it is and let you know... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > I need a non-slip finish for forty year old outdoor concrete. Any > suggestions or recommendations? I don't trust any product that's legal in > California, but I'm not opposed to smuggling something in. > BZ > ____ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Jun 4 18:51:54 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:51:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: <4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net> References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> <4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net> Message-ID: I think the lump is a de-smogged Triumph engine, but I haven't raised the bonnet since I got it home. Grandbaby, graduation party for the neighbor's kid, and the usual Saturday chores have kept me busy today. :-) Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Woerpel wrote: > Rick, > > Way to GO!! Now dog-gone it, you coulda rented a trailer and brought out both cars and we would've completed them for you; shoot we had 4 days!! > About the lump...do we need a Nasty Boy category?? ;-) > > Dave W. > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary > July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > > On 6/4/2011 12:23 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: >> Both of my Sprites are long, long, loooonnnggg time restoration projects that >> are not drivable yet. So yesterday I bought a '79 Midget to drive to the 50th >> party. Roll-up windows and a funny looking lump under the bonnet Who'd a >> thunk it. >> >> Rick >> '59& '61 Sprites and now a strange '79 Midget From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 19:08:11 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:08:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] AMF Years Message-ID: The guy who used to own the Harley dealership here in town . and who sold it just before the economy began to sag, was telling me one day about the AMF years . . as he owned a Harley dealership during that period. He actually said that 80% of the bikes came back for warranty work. . per which was often due to burned valves. It is a miracle that Harley held on to 1984 when things began to turn around with the EVO engine. But to live through a period where 80% of the bikes he sold came back for extensive warranty work? Amazing that he was able to hold on through that period. Kirk From kmappley at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 19:10:37 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:10:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Metro Radiator Message-ID: Wondering if the group thinks a Metro radiator would cool a 1500 Datsun engine. Didn't the Swift go up to 1600? Would the Swift radiator be different from the Metro? Just wondering?? Kurt. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 4 19:15:56 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <360451.67053.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Got a new lower hose on order Issue with collapsing hose has been suggested and I had this issue even before I added the BE Bonnet. Planning on changing out lower hose as well as retarding timing 1 or 2 degrees and see if that helps. If that doesn't work then Metro Radiator. With the BE Bonnet and Oil Cooler mounted in front of the radiator not getting all of the air flow possible but the fact that around town is all ok leads me to suspect I really might have an issue with a collapsing hose. Bugsy is a 1098 with a cross flow radiator so plumbing is a little bit of an issue. ________________________________ From: derf To: Billy Zoom Cc: James Gruber ; kmappley at gmail.com; Spridgets Digest Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 4:10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator If you get good air flow at lower speeds you should get good flow at 65. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> Fine around town but at 60-65 + >> sustained temps climb > Are you sure your bottom hose is firm? (no jokes please) From peter at nosimport.com Sat Jun 4 19:31:03 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 20:31:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: <360451.67053.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <360451.67053.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201106041831845.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Jim, It's been said that the down flow radiator can cool a truck,,,,, IF it gets air flow. Try to mimic the sheet metal that the BE had for that bonnet. Make the air flow through the radiator. It works. Peter === At 08:15 PM 6/4/2011, James Gruber wrote: >Got a new lower hose on order > >Issue with collapsing hose has been suggested >and I had this issue even before I >added the BE Bonnet. Planning on changing >out lower hose as well as retarding >timing 1 or 2 degrees and see if that >helps. If that doesn't work then Metro >Radiator. With the BE Bonnet and Oil >Cooler mounted in front of the radiator not >getting all of the air flow >possible but the fact that around town is all ok >leads me to suspect I >really might have an issue with a collapsing hose. Bugsy >is a 1098 with a >cross flow radiator so plumbing is a little bit of an issue. >________________________________ >From: derf >To: Billy Zoom > >Cc: James Gruber ; >kmappley at gmail.com; Spridgets Digest > >Sent: Sat, >June 4, 2011 4:10:37 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator > >If you get >good air flow at lower speeds you should get good flow at 65. > >On Sat, Jun 4, >2011 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > >> Fine around >town but at 60-65 + > >> sustained temps climb > > Are you sure your bottom hose >is firm? (no jokes please) >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3681 - Release Date: 06/04/11 From peter at nosimport.com Sat Jun 4 20:01:17 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:01:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] On the way to the Midget 50th Message-ID: <201106041901170.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Tom Smith, local to me in Madison, has graciously posted some of his favorite drives in Wisconsin. I've done a few, and they are pretty good. Wisconsin is a very special place, so if you have some time at the front or rear end of your journey, try some of these runs. Tom regularly drives a TR6, but he's getting close to finishing his 74 Midget, bought in boxes. Good guy. http://smithtr6.com/drives_index.htm Peter C From kmappley at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 20:03:39 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:03:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50 attendee's from the east. Message-ID: Just mentioned on the BCF forum and thought I ought to bring it up here. Got away from the ladies at my daughter's wedding last weekend long enough to visit the Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg museum in Auburn Indiana. These are some of the finest autos ever made and I would recommend anyone that will be in the vicinity try to take it in. Not just the above makes but a large selection of nice to see auto's including a few British. Got to see cars I never expected to see in my life. Notably a Cisitalia roadster and a Ruxton. Even got to run my hands over a 16 cylinder Buggati engine. [No one looking!] Kurt. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 20:26:02 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 02:26:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: <201106041831845.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com><360451.67053.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><201106041831845.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Are downflow radiators more or less efficient than the crossflow type? Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 20:31:03 To: James Gruber; derf Cc: Spridgets Digest Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator Jim, It's been said that the down flow radiator can cool a truck,,,,, IF it gets air flow. Try to mimic the sheet metal that the BE had for that bonnet. Make the air flow through the radiator. It works. Peter === At 08:15 PM 6/4/2011, James Gruber wrote: >Got a new lower hose on order > >Issue with collapsing hose has been suggested >and I had this issue even before I >added the BE Bonnet. Planning on changing >out lower hose as well as retarding >timing 1 or 2 degrees and see if that >helps. If that doesn't work then Metro >Radiator. With the BE Bonnet and Oil >Cooler mounted in front of the radiator not >getting all of the air flow >possible but the fact that around town is all ok >leads me to suspect I >really might have an issue with a collapsing hose. Bugsy >is a 1098 with a >cross flow radiator so plumbing is a little bit of an issue. >________________________________ >From: derf >To: Billy Zoom > >Cc: James Gruber ; >kmappley at gmail.com; Spridgets Digest > >Sent: Sat, >June 4, 2011 4:10:37 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator > >If you get >good air flow at lower speeds you should get good flow at 65. > >On Sat, Jun 4, >2011 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > >> Fine around >town but at 60-65 + > >> sustained temps climb > > Are you sure your bottom hose >is firm? (no jokes please) >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3681 - Release Date: 06/04/11 _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From peter at nosimport.com Sat Jun 4 20:35:02 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:35:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: <1574675037-1307240764-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim .net-553286718-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <360451.67053.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <201106041831845.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <1574675037-1307240764-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-553286718-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <201106041935975.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Oooh... I don't know. Down flows are thicker, but as far as efficiency, I do not know. I'm pretty sure the cross-flows are less expensive to manufacture, and they enable a pressurized tank more easily, partly because of the cap/neck design. I think that costs were more a factor for the change. Peter sent from my back porch to where I was just delivered ice cream and strawberries ;-) ------ At 09:26 PM 6/4/2011, an5.sprite at gmail.com wrote: >Are downflow radiators more or less efficient than the crossflow type? > >Steve >Sent from me. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Caldwell >Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 20:31:03 >To: James Gruber; derf >Cc: Spridgets Digest >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator > >Jim, > It's been said that the down flow radiator can cool a >truck,,,,, IF it gets air flow. Try to mimic the sheet metal that >the BE had for that bonnet. Make the air flow through the radiator. It works. > Peter >=== >At 08:15 PM 6/4/2011, James Gruber wrote: > >Got a new lower hose on order > > > >Issue with collapsing hose has been suggested > >and I had this issue even before I > >added the BE Bonnet. Planning on changing > >out lower hose as well as retarding > >timing 1 or 2 degrees and see if that > >helps. If that doesn't work then Metro > >Radiator. With the BE Bonnet and Oil > >Cooler mounted in front of the radiator not > >getting all of the air flow > >possible but the fact that around town is all ok > >leads me to suspect I > >really might have an issue with a collapsing hose. Bugsy > >is a 1098 with a > >cross flow radiator so plumbing is a little bit of an issue. > >________________________________ > >From: derf > >To: Billy Zoom > > > >Cc: James Gruber ; > >kmappley at gmail.com; Spridgets Digest > > > >Sent: Sat, > >June 4, 2011 4:10:37 PM > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator > > > >If you get > >good air flow at lower speeds you should get good flow at 65. > > > >On Sat, Jun 4, > >2011 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > >> Fine around > >town but at 60-65 + > > >> sustained temps climb > > > Are you sure your bottom hose > >is firm? (no jokes please) > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > > > > > > >----- > >No virus found in this message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3681 - Release Date: 06/04/11 >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3681 - Release Date: 06/04/11 From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 20:46:54 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:46:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OK, but does that cause enough difference in flow between say 45 and 65 MPH? A radiator has to have both good air flow and good water flow to cool properly. A new lower hose and good flush might solve things. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 20:53:45 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:53:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50 attendee's from the east. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah. But do they leak oil?? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Just mentioned on the BCF forum and thought I ought to bring it up here. > Got away from the ladies at my daughter's wedding last weekend long enough > to visit the Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg museum in Auburn Indiana. These are > some of the finest autos ever made and I would recommend anyone that will > be > in the vicinity try to take it in. > Not just the above makes but a large selection of nice to see auto's > including a few British. > Got to see cars I never expected to see in my life. Notably a Cisitalia > roadster and a Ruxton. Even got to run my hands over a 16 cylinder Buggati > engine. [No one looking!] > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From edwd at ti.com Sat Jun 4 23:27:21 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 00:27:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Non stick concrete surface Message-ID: BZ- 10 years ago I painted my shop floor with a 2-part epoxy paint that has been nothing short of amazing. It has had every type of fluif spilled upon it and I even had a small puddle of gas catch fire and it didn't even discolor. However, if I recall correctly, it is not made for direct UV exposure. 10 years is a long time though, so perhaps they have a formulation that will fit your application. It is imperative that you etch the concrete with muriatic acid before you apply whatever finish you end up with, this I know to be true. Then rinse and re-rinse. There are non-slip additives that you can either put into the paint or sprinkle on top. I should have heeded that advice as my floor is slicker than snot when wet. Go to a paint contractor supply store and explain your need. They are not only less expensive (50 percent) than Home Depot, but they know their product since no contractor wants return calls for a finish that hasn't held. Also, if you go with epoxy, spend the 10 bucks or so for a mixer that you can chuck up to an electric drill, full and complete mixing is critical. Buy application tools that can be discarded, there is no cleanup, tried it, even with the recommended solvent. Rollers and brushes are cheap though, and the flow of the product will show no stroke marks. Let it cure a week, scratch it with 80 grit or even 60 on a wall board sander (I got about a thimble full of dust from a 30x50 floor) and second coat it with application 90 degrees from the first coat. Another option could be a ceramic tile that is 'pebbled' for that natural slate look, it is relatively slip resistant. Good luck, and let us know what you find out please, my back patio is gonna need something someday soon. Ed Dallas, Tx From frog.aye at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 00:39:10 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:39:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Metro Radiator In-Reply-To: References: <632869.5903.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Don't forget the possibility of cavitation in the water pump. It can cause problems at higher RPM. Hal From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 08:09:16 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:09:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice 62 on eBay.....2.1K buy now. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh funny Hal, ABL030206 looks like someone messed up with their stamping equipment in the garage ; ) Lin On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > Lin, > Nice looking car. But what's with that VIN? > Hal > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> *http://tinyurl.com/445gtkw >> Lin >> * >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 08:14:41 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:14:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. Message-ID: OMG!!! Starting price for this NOS steering wheel, US $2,454.45., seller is *greenfingersgirl*I think I would change the name a little .....wink! Lin ebay: *http://tinyurl.com/42ud3k6 ebay #: *280689985783 * * From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 08:22:49 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:22:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: You are absolutely right. It was the TC that many GIs brought back to the USA after WWII that created the sports car craze here. Before that, the sportiest drive in the states was a 1941 flathead Ford. We didn't make many cars during the war years. Therefore, the MG-TC is considered the start of it all. As we all know, what the USA does, so follows the world. Except, perhaps in guv'ment regulations that stifle performance, handling and economy...and make cars look like jelly beans, and... Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Ummm Allen... The MG line goes back well before the T-series... The > first "Midget" was the M-type in 1929.... > > http://www.mgabingdon.co.uk/timeline/index.html > > That said, the TC was the first MG imported into the US post WWII.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > >> Allen, >> You may well be quite right. >> There is no hot air at this end. >> >> Regards, >> >> Guy R Day >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Hefner" >> To: "Spridgets list" >> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:18 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >> >> >> Haysoos marimba, kool yer jets! I only asked about the best car for me, >>> living in a condo with no garage or place to work on a car. >>> >>> I don't think anybody seriously believes the Miata or the Jeep are Brit >>> Cars. They both have tenuous connections to the wonderful heritage Great >>> Britain brought to sports car history, but NO newcomer will ever be more >>> important or more loved than the early MG T-series that started it all. >>> The >>> Spridget is a DIRECT descendent of the MG-TC. >>> >>> The Miata and Jeep are "world cars." >>> >>> End of line >>> >>> Allen Hefner >>> Norristown, PA >>> >>> *Current:* >>> 2006 Chebbie >>> *Former:* >>> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III >>> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS >>> 1964 VW Type I >>> 1967 VW Type II >>> 1967 Rover 2000TC >>> 1977 MG Midget >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Guy R Day wrote: >>> >>> Well thought through David. >>>> However, I don't think you can make a serious claim the Jeep was a >>>> British >>>> design and I would suggest Nippon Miata groups whilst acknowledging the >>>> Miata to be generally based on British design would not claim it to be a >>>> LBC. Bits of it may well be improved (and other bits not improved) >>>> copies >>>> based on LBCs but it certainly sticks in my throat to say a Mazda is a >>>> British car - just as it would to claim a Jeep is British. >>>> >>>> Guy R Day >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> >>>> To: "Guy R Day" ; "Spridgets" < >>>> spridgets at autox.team.net> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:53 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner >>>> >>>> >>>> If you follow this argument then you can make a WWII Jeep to be derived >>>> >>>>> from >>>>>> a British design!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Well, the original WWII Jeep was designed by the American Bantam >>>>> Company of Butler, Pennsylvania, which had built Austin Sevens under >>>>> license (like BMW had), so maybe there is a relationship there... >>>>> David L From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 08:28:26 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:28:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT She didn't sell it first time around, so she offers it up for $1000 more. I wonder if the green on her fingers, is known as "ganja" On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > OMG!!! Starting price for this NOS steering wheel, US $2,454.45., seller > is *greenfingersgirl*< > http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/greenfingersgirl/?_trksid=p4340.l2559>I > think I would change the name a little .....wink! > Lin > > ebay: > *http://tinyurl.com/42ud3k6 > > ebay #: > *280689985783 > * > > * > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lbc77mg at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 08:35:27 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:35:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> <4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net> Message-ID: I know that you know this, but there may be newbies reading. The '79 Midget engine is the same 1500cc also used in the Spitfire. De-smogging is a good thing. You may be able to tell if it was a Midget engine by the block color. I think, if memory serves, the block on the MGs was painted a robin's egg blue. Engine origin was from a tractor. Lots of torque available, and this is considered the first Midget engine capable of moving the car at more than 100 MPH. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > I think the lump is a de-smogged Triumph engine, but I haven't raised the > bonnet since I got it home. Grandbaby, graduation party for the neighbor's > kid, and the usual Saturday chores have kept me busy today. :-) > > Rick > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Woerpel wrote: > > > Rick, > > > > Way to GO!! Now dog-gone it, you coulda rented a trailer and brought out > both cars and we would've completed them for you; shoot we had 4 days!! > > About the lump...do we need a Nasty Boy category?? ;-) > > > > Dave W. > > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary > > July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin > > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > > > > > On 6/4/2011 12:23 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > >> Both of my Sprites are long, long, loooonnnggg time restoration projects > that > >> are not drivable yet. So yesterday I bought a '79 Midget to drive to > the > 50th > >> party. Roll-up windows and a funny looking lump under the bonnet Who'd > a > >> thunk it. > >> > >> Rick > >> '59& '61 Sprites and now a strange '79 Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From kmappley at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 09:16:29 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:16:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Midget 50 attendee's from the east. Message-ID: You know, Jim, I think there were a few puddles which ought to make it even more interesting for Spridget drivers! The building alone is worth seeing. It is the original factory, office's and show room. All art deco. Kurt. From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 09:54:28 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars Message-ID: What's the plinth made of, it feels like aluminum, is it? I've removed it and the plate mounting from my Mk1 Midget parts car and cleaned it up. To me it looks fine bare metal with the nice chrome light fixture but should the plinth be painted the same color as the car? Rick Bastedo From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 10:01:06 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:01:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak In-Reply-To: <1CBEE49EC9934BCE990FCE3A61B8CE64@HomePC> References: <1CBEE49EC9934BCE990FCE3A61B8CE64@HomePC> Message-ID: Jim, Larry & List, My BMW bike doesn't leak ether. As for liking LBC's it's simple they are so damn cute ; ) And Frank got me hooked on the Spridget because they work ; ) Lin On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > So Jim, what are you doing with a Spridget? > > I agree with you on this stuff. My Austin Ute and my wife's MGB both pee > on > the driveway. I owned a Hardley once and thought it was a POS. I rode my > brother's Hardley and at 65mph it vibrated so bad you couldn't read the > speedo. Yet, I like these Brit cars. I have no idea why. Do you? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Johnson > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:49 PM > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] All Brit Vehicles Leak > > You just didn't notice the right people... By 1967 had my fill of leaky > Brit iron and Hardleys that fall apart just sitting there and bought my > first BMW. No chain, no leaks and 180,000 miles later have only been inside > it once and bought 2 more to sit with it in the stable. > > Cheers!! > Jim - Those aren't memories - they're nightmares.... > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves > wrote: > > > I am old enough to remember seeing new Triumph motorcycles sitting in the > > show room of a dealer. . . around 1968 -69 when in high school . . all > > with > > oil spots under them. The leak situation never seemed to discourage > > people > > from buying them. > > > > Just bringing back some memories. . > > > > Kirk > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 10:13:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:13:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, It seems like it and bends like it (I have a bent one somewhere in the garage). If it was cast it would have cracked off. Lin On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > What's the plinth made of, it feels like aluminum, is it? > I've removed it and the plate mounting from my Mk1 Midget parts car and > cleaned it up. > To me it looks fine bare metal with the nice chrome light fixture but > should > the plinth be painted the same color as the car? > > Rick Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From billmasq at hotmail.com Sun Jun 5 12:31:29 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 11:31:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think that Gerrard is correct and that it is potmetal. You could spray it clear but probably won't do too well if left untreated. BillM > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:28 -0700 > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars > > What's the plinth made of, it feels like aluminum, is it? > I've removed it and the plate mounting from my Mk1 Midget parts car and > cleaned it up. > To me it looks fine bare metal with the nice chrome light fixture but should > the plinth be painted the same color as the car? > > Rick Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 12:44:30 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:44:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The one on my 68 is definitely pot metal. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Bill Masquelier wrote: > I think that Gerrard is correct and that it is potmetal. You could spray > it > clear but probably won't do too well if left untreated. > BillM > > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:28 -0700 > > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars > > > > What's the plinth made of, it feels like aluminum, is it? > > I've removed it and the plate mounting from my Mk1 Midget parts car and > > cleaned it up. > > To me it looks fine bare metal with the nice chrome light fixture but > should > > the plinth be painted the same color as the car? > > > > Rick Bastedo > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun Jun 5 14:33:33 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:33:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Toilet Energy, No LBC In-Reply-To: <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> References: <1065142950.12841.1306990078600.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> <83F8B1BC97014F3BB3DF0743A2E11131@HomePC> <5ECD843C15B749129AD0333C88338D2D@BusterPC> Message-ID: <4DEBE81D.1060706@tx.rr.com> I was summa cum laude and my brain does not make those kinds of mistakes, however the communication from my brain to my keyboard to my email program is sometimes less reliable. > Larry Daniels wrote: "I'll bet "just plain stupid" Obama (Magna Cum > Laude from Harvard) wouldn't make three mistakes like that in two > sentences. Credibility?" From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun Jun 5 15:04:28 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:04:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: <68C46B110C634414A82ADE463BE7487C@user8634b3d69b> <5A0DD8B603E84FF7A040EAAC08CFE5B5@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: <4DEBEF5C.8000002@tx.rr.com> What you need to do is to pick the car that you like and LEASE it. You get the car for less than normal monthly payments, and will probably never have to do anything but change the oil. I'm somewhat the opposite- I have tools and a place to work on my cars at home, I have a nephew that drives a tow truck, and my father owns a garage. The problem with me is that I don't like making big repairs on my own cars, or driving a car that I worry might break down when I'm away from home. (And BTW I recognize that this is an odd feeling for someone who was supported for much of my life by repairs to unreliable cars.) A couple of years ago my daughter and I were returning from a trip out of town when my automatic transmission failed in a small town in Oklahoma. I called my nephew to come get the car, and I called my wife to come and get us. > Haysoos marimba, kool yer jets! I only asked about the best car for me, > living in a condo with no garage or place to work on a car. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun Jun 5 15:19:27 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:19:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Non-slip concrete-No LBC, toilets, or politics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEBF2DF.9080600@tx.rr.com> Euclid and Sika both make products for commercial use. A google search for "non-slip floor" gives lots of hits for specialty products. Sika and Euclid are trustworthy companies, I can't vouch for companies that make non-slip products that I never heard of. > I need a non-slip finish for forty year old outdoor concrete. Any > suggestions or recommendations? I don't trust any product that's legal in > California, but I'm not opposed to smuggling something in. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sun Jun 5 15:29:47 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:29:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 motor status In-Reply-To: <0D17395463A74D2B85543DE3893CB42D@spider> References: <16370EF2-49AE-4235-A6EA-6D01F88AD2B8@gmail.com> <20110604014446.6G7LG.191222.root@cdptpa-web21-z01> <0D17395463A74D2B85543DE3893CB42D@spider> Message-ID: <4DEBF54B.6050905@tx.rr.com> We soaked the last piston with PB Blaster overnight and attacked it again yesterday afternoon. We hit it a lot, and hit it hard, and it seemed pretty solid. I had hit is some from the top using a large socket of about 2" outside diameter, and hit from below using a brass punch a little over 1" diameter. We stood the engine up and hit it from the top again, and I started hitting it as hard as I could. We seemed to move the piston down about 1/4" so we turned it over and started hitting from underneath. It seemed solid so we got up on a stool so we could hit it harder and finally got it to move, then it came out pretty quickly. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/MG/photo153b.jpg http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/MG/photo157b.jpg > Work it in both directions; up then down. Work it. > I spent a month getting some Mercedes pistons out, and the aluminum ring > lands were powder from age. I finally used dry ice. From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 16:15:29 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:15:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's primer gray now. It will look great in body color, whatever that ends up being. Interesting tidbit: My Mk1 Midget parts car was originally Clipper Blue or Ice Blue (whatever the difference is). I think it's Clipper Blue but SWMBO says she thinks it's Ice Blue. Since I've sanded through some layers on the white Bugeye bonnet sitting on my Midget I've found the original color is the same. So I've now got parts from two different early cars on my Midget that were originally that color. And I like that color too. Hmmm... Maybe that will be the color for the whole car? Rick (colors, so many many colors) Bastedo On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Bill Masquelier wrote: > I think that Gerrard is correct and that it is potmetal. You could spray > it clear but probably won't do too well if left untreated. > BillM > > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:28 -0700 > > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars > > > > What's the plinth made of, it feels like aluminum, is it? > > I've removed it and the plate mounting from my Mk1 Midget parts car and > > cleaned it up. > > To me it looks fine bare metal with the nice chrome light fixture but > should > > the plinth be painted the same color as the car? > > > > Rick Bastedo From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 5 17:40:25 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 16:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] P-1800 at 1.69 million miles.. . Guinness Book of World Records In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <501488.43004.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Interesting story: http://www.zercustoms.com/news/1966-Volvo-P1800-Hits-2.6-Million-Miles-Mark.h tml Kirk _______________________________________________ He's a really nice guy too. He occassionally drives it to the train station in my little town where there is a cruise night Every Friday night all summer. I remember back 15 or 20 years ago when he hit 1 million miles and virtually every car magazine ran a story on him and the car. - David Booker Long Island From cnaarndt at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:49:40 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 17:49:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick, Check out my local paint shop's website. We (my buddy's classic car restoration shop) uses them exclusively. http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/ Under "Select Make" it's... *ahmg* They have most of the original color chips. A great resource. Curt On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > It's primer gray now. > It will look great in body color, whatever that ends up being. > Interesting tidbit: > My Mk1 Midget parts car was originally Clipper Blue or Ice Blue (whatever > the difference is). > I think it's Clipper Blue but SWMBO says she thinks it's Ice Blue. > Since I've sanded through some layers on the white Bugeye bonnet sitting on > my Midget I've found the original color is the same. > So I've now got parts from two different early cars on my Midget that were > originally that color. > And I like that color too. > Hmmm... Maybe that will be the color for the whole car? > > Rick (colors, so many many colors) Bastedo > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Bill Masquelier >wrote: > > > I think that Gerrard is correct and that it is potmetal. You could > spray > > it clear but probably won't do too well if left untreated. > > BillM > > > > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:28 -0700 > > > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > > > Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars > > > > > > What's the plinth made of, it feels like aluminum, is it? > > > I've removed it and the plate mounting from my Mk1 Midget parts car and > > > cleaned it up. > > > To me it looks fine bare metal with the nice chrome light fixture but > > should > > > the plinth be painted the same color as the car? > > > > > > Rick Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Sun Jun 5 20:08:10 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 19:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <921780.62224.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> rick, it's pot metal. the studs are steel cast into it when made. paint it inside and outside! pot metal deteriorates quite quickly if left to the weather. they were painted body color. be certain to replace both the lamp base to plinth gasket as well as the plinth to body gasket. chuck. ________________________________ From: Rick Bastedo To: spridget list Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 6:15:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars It's primer gray now. It will look great in body color, whatever that ends up being. Interesting tidbit: My Mk1 Midget parts car was originally Clipper Blue or Ice Blue (whatever the difference is). I think it's Clipper Blue but SWMBO says she thinks it's Ice Blue. Since I've sanded through some layers on the white Bugeye bonnet sitting on my Midget I've found the original color is the same. So I've now got parts from two different early cars on my Midget that were originally that color. And I like that color too. Hmmm... Maybe that will be the color for the whole car? Rick (colors, so many many colors) Bastedo On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Bill Masquelier wrote: > I think that Gerrard is correct and that it is potmetal. You could spray > it clear but probably won't do too well if left untreated. > BillM > > > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:54:28 -0700 > > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars > > > > What's the plinth made of, it feels like aluminum, is it? > > I've removed it and the plate mounting from my Mk1 Midget parts car and > > cleaned it up. > > To me it looks fine bare metal with the nice chrome light fixture but > should > > the plinth be painted the same color as the car? > > > > Rick Bastedo _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Jun 5 20:47:34 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:47:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MG Midget for Sale Message-ID: <4DEC3FC6.4090709@wi.net> Folks I drove by this up north and had to get it out to you. Do not want to see this deteriorate any further as it's pretty original but needs a bunchalota TLC. Somebody save this one, I'll help transport for an O.S.H.I.T! -- Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org 1966 MG MIDGET for Sale Location: Near Tipler Wisconsin Contac:Dan Tipler Mobile Phone:920.216.5725 Asking: $2000 OBO I have seen this car for the last 10-12 years at a cabin near one of my favorite trout streams and never got a chance to talk to the guy.I was at a different stream and drove by a home and saw the car sitting out front with a for sale sign.I stopped but the owner wasn't there so I left my number.He called today and said he got the car from an older gentleman that could not get in or out (w/o help) of the car any longer.(note: You have my permission to put me in my Bugeye and leave me there when I get to that stage!) Go to:http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr49/Gowom/1966%20MG%20Midget/ Or: *http://tinyurl.com/43dl23w* Originally white with red interior, the exterior has been poorly painted in silver.The photos were taken with my old phone so the color looks blue/purple.As a reference the collector plates should be blue with red numerals.I didn't want to mess with the bonnet as the owner wasn't present so I didn't peek at the engine bay. Basically it needs to be properly restored. NFI, just hate to see a car that's pretty much originally equipped (not counting the sandbag ashtray!) rot away.It could be a great little car.I told Dan that I would get it to the list for him.I do not know him but hope to meet him this summer. Good stretch of river in front of his house. ;-) Dave W. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 23:47:04 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 00:47:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MG Midget for Sale In-Reply-To: <4DEC3FC6.4090709@wi.net> References: <4DEC3FC6.4090709@wi.net> Message-ID: Not too bad of shape either!! A decent MKII for someone to work on... Wonder what the engine/drive train is like. Also ... hint of A post rust and wonder about the floor boards.... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Woerpel wrote: > Folks I drove by this up north and had to get it out to you. Do not > want to see this deteriorate any further as it's pretty original but > needs a bunchalota TLC. > Somebody save this one, I'll help transport for an O.S.H.I.T! > > -- > Dave W. > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary > July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > 1966 MG MIDGET for Sale > > Location: Near Tipler Wisconsin > > Contac:Dan Tipler > > Mobile Phone:920.216.5725 > > Asking: $2000 OBO > > I have seen this car for the last 10-12 years at a cabin near one of my > favorite trout streams and never got a chance to talk to the guy.I was > at a different stream and drove by a home and saw the car sitting out > front with a for sale sign.I stopped but the owner wasn't there so I > left my number.He called today and said he got the car from an older > gentleman that could not get in or out (w/o help) of the car any > longer.(note: You have my permission to put me in my Bugeye and leave me > there when I get to that stage!) > > Go to:http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr49/Gowom/1966%20MG%20Midget/ > > Or: *http://tinyurl.com/43dl23w* > > Originally white with red interior, the exterior has been poorly painted > in silver.The photos were taken with my old phone so the color looks > blue/purple.As a reference the collector plates should be blue with red > numerals.I didn't want to mess with the bonnet as the owner wasn't > present so I didn't peek at the engine bay. Basically it needs to be > properly restored. > > NFI, just hate to see a car that's pretty much originally equipped (not > counting the sandbag ashtray!) rot away.It could be a great little car.I > told Dan that I would get it to the list for him.I do not know him but > hope to meet him this summer. Good stretch of river in front of his > house. ;-) > > Dave W. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 04:23:53 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:23:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. Message-ID: List, Who on the list is using a fuel cell gas tank in their Spridget and why aren't more people using them, besides cost? I was thinking about it so the tank is in the trunk and not so low like the standard tank. Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 04:25:24 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:25:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. Message-ID: List, I was drilling 2 hole's in my Sprite for the new Facet fuel pump, had a lot of OSHIT moments especially when I barely got through the other side (double wall bulk head) with my drill bit. Now I have to get some longer bolts. So is this wall doubled up as a fire wall protection? Lin From lmacy at mac.com Mon Jun 6 05:29:37 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 07:29:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is a Midget one, only w/o the box by the same lister, for the same price. She states the 58 wheel is a BMC original, but isn't 58 before BMC took over?? Larry -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. Sent from my Magical iPad On Jun 5, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > She didn't sell it first time around, so she offers it up for $1000 more. I > wonder if the green on her fingers, is known as "ganja" > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> OMG!!! Starting price for this NOS steering wheel, US $2,454.45., seller >> is *greenfingersgirl*< >> http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/greenfingersgirl/?_trksid=p4340.l2559>I >> think I would change the name a little .....wink! >> Lin >> >> ebay: >> *http://tinyurl.com/42ud3k6 >> >> ebay #: >> *280689985783 >> * >> >> * >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 05:41:10 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 04:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <309661.52540.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> linda where ya puting the pump? under car near original location? double wall thick is more than likely part of unibody construction than a fire wall. just my guess as to where yer drilling. chuck off to work. new second job , international harvester / cub cadet dealer servicing lawn equiptment. joy it's like working on small spridgets. my knees do not think i'm very funny evenings though....... ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 6:25:24 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. List, I was drilling 2 hole's in my Sprite for the new Facet fuel pump, had a lot of OSHIT moments especially when I barely got through the other side (double wall bulk head) with my drill bit. Now I have to get some longer bolts. So is this wall doubled up as a fire wall protection? Lin _______________________________________________ From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 05:52:31 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 04:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <250999.66764.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> linda, while as a design a fuel cell is safer than a gas tank , the cell is only sucessfull if properly installed. mounting and reinforcement of areas for mounting are very importaint. it's not as simple as drop off old tank bolt in new cell. also then remember the area between cockpit and trunk (now fuel cell area) would need a firewall instead of upholstered fiberboard panel. this starts a whole process or replumbing right down to fire resistant covering on any under hood rubber hose. you start to think too deeply into this and you get a fuel system more expensive than the whole car...... :) chuck going to work now....in the '79 chevy van ....yup the "lust bus" (l.b.1) still exists with 447,000 on the clock! ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 6:23:53 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. List, Who on the list is using a fuel cell gas tank in their Spridget and why aren't more people using them, besides cost? I was thinking about it so the tank is in the trunk and not so low like the standard tank. Lin _______________________________________________ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jun 6 06:13:49 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. Message-ID: <31372.f177cac.3b1e1e7d@aol.com> Because you have no space in the trunk, not even for a spare wheel and tyre. In a message dated 06/06/2011 11:44:50 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: List, Who on the list is using a fuel cell gas tank in their Spridget and why aren't more people using them, besides cost? I was thinking about it so the tank is in the trunk and not so low like the standard tank. Lin From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jun 6 06:32:37 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:32:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question Message-ID: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> Well, I'm progressing along with getting my '60 Bugeye back on the road, but I think I'm missing some horn button or steering wheel parts or I just don't understand how the thing works. Can someone please describe to me how (or where) the horn brush picks up the ground when you push the button. I understand the path from horn to the surround to the brush. What I don't see is how the brush under the button gets to ground. Is it coming from the column somehow? If so, what connects it to the column? Also, what is supposed to hold the button in place? Does it just snap in? I can see a hole in the side of the steering wheel. Is this for some sort of retaining screw? Thanks, Heard From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jun 6 07:55:12 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question In-Reply-To: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> References: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> Message-ID: <563685.7938.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> There are clips that attach to the horn button in the slots on the backside of the horn button. jay ________________________________ From: Heard Saxon To: spridgets at autox.team.net Also, what is supposed to hold the button in place? Does it just snap in? I can see a hole in the side of the steering wheel. Is this for some sort of retaining screw? From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 07:57:38 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:57:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. In-Reply-To: <31372.f177cac.3b1e1e7d@aol.com> References: <31372.f177cac.3b1e1e7d@aol.com> Message-ID: List, OK you all have good reasons for me not getting a "fuel cell" right now but if I decide to run my little Sprite on the track this is something I will have to plan for. Plus I'll have to save up for very expensive transition. I am going to do the Hill Climb in Pa hopefully next year as the guys at the tent at Carlisle convinced me it will be loads of fun. For the Hill Climb you only need a 5 point seat belt and a Snell Approved Helmet. They said if I join SCCA there are no fees for the climb. I may just volunteer for the pits next year to see what I want to do for my climb the following year. It would be nice if some of you guys come along as I think it would be loads of fun. You can take any car ; ) I'll send the link when I get home. Lin PS My fuel tank is fine on Pinky but the UK guys mentioned this NOS tank on ebay as being super hard to find: * http://tinyurl.com/4xplbvz Sure would be nice to win ; ) * On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 AM, wrote: > Because you have no space in the trunk, not even for a spare wheel and > tyre. > > > > > In a message dated 06/06/2011 11:44:50 GMT Daylight Time, > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > List, > Who on the list is using a fuel cell gas tank in their Spridget and why > aren't more people using them, besides cost? I was thinking about it so the > tank is in the trunk and not so low like the standard tank. > Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 08:03:51 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:03:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: <309661.52540.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <309661.52540.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes Chuck, I am putting it in the rear like the younger Spridgets did because I have a 1275 (previous owner installed it). I could not fit the metal fuel filter on it as it was too long so I may put ether metal or plastic on the curved section of hose between the tank and the pump. Lin PS Chuck your second job at the Lawn Equipment Company sounds like a blast : ) Easy on the knees. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:41 AM, charles christ wrote: > linda where ya puting the pump? under car near original location? > double > wall thick is more than likely part of unibody construction than a fire > wall. > just my guess as to where yer drilling. > > > chuck > off to work. new > second job , international harvester / cub cadet dealer > servicing lawn > equiptment. joy it's like working on small spridgets. my > knees do not > think i'm very funny evenings though....... > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 6:25:24 > AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. > > List, > I was drilling > 2 hole's in my Sprite for the new Facet fuel pump, had a lot > of OSHIT moments > especially when I barely got through the other side (double > wall bulk head) > with my drill bit. Now I have to get some longer bolts. So > is this wall > doubled up as a fire wall protection? > Lin > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From aseippel at austin.rr.com Mon Jun 6 08:05:17 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:05:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question In-Reply-To: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> References: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> Message-ID: <002901cc2452$c3ff04d0$4bfd0e70$@rr.com> There is a slip ring which is mounted to the dash behind the steering wheel. It is a brass disk that is has a wire attached. The wire is threaded through the dash and is connected to the horn through the wiring harness. The horns have power supplied (+12V on a negative grounded car or -12V on a positive grounded car) all of the time. The slip ring is connected to the push button on the steering wheel through the horn brush, The horn brush is a plastic tube with a spring between two conductive parts eclectically connected with a braided wire. When the horn button is pressed, the circuit is grounded and the horn blows. When diagnosing a horn problem, disconnect the wire from the sip ring and ground the wiring harness side of the connection. The horn should blow. If it doesn't, you need to verify the there is a voltage source on the horns. It is easiest to use a test light. If the horn blows, reconnect the wire and then ground the slip ring. If the horn blows, then ground the horn brush, etc. Work your way through the circuit until you find the problem. The horn button snaps into place. This is for the original Sprite parts. If you have an aftermarket steering wheel, all bets are off. :-) If you have any problems, email me and I will try to help further. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:33 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question Well, I'm progressing along with getting my '60 Bugeye back on the road, but I think I'm missing some horn button or steering wheel parts or I just don't understand how the thing works. Can someone please describe to me how (or where) the horn brush picks up the ground when you push the button. I understand the path from horn to the surround to the brush. What I don't see is how the brush under the button gets to ground. Is it coming from the column somehow? If so, what connects it to the column? Also, what is supposed to hold the button in place? Does it just snap in? I can see a hole in the side of the steering wheel. Is this for some sort of retaining screw? Thanks, Heard _______________________________________________ From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jun 6 08:18:17 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question - Correction In-Reply-To: <563685.7938.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> <563685.7938.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <972166.10477.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> There are clips that attach to the horn button in the slots on the backside of the horn button ----- which hold the horn button after it is pressed into place. An extremely worn steering wheel center may have deep grooves from the spikes on these clips making the horn button difficult to seat properly. If that's the case, you can attempt to fill the grooves with epoxy. Another option is to buy a new wheel. There is one on ebay right now. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Jay To: Heard Saxon ; Spridgets Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 9:55:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn button question There are clips that attach to the horn button in the slots on the backside of the horn button. jay From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jun 6 08:19:48 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:19:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question In-Reply-To: <002901cc2452$c3ff04d0$4bfd0e70$@rr.com> References: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> <002901cc2452$c3ff04d0$4bfd0e70$@rr.com> Message-ID: <0c3001cc2454$caf2bbe0$60d833a0$@net> I appreciate the help on this, but I understand the circuit from the brush going to the horn. All of that works. What I don't see is how the spring clip on the side of the horn button is supposed to make contact with a ground. If it is supposed to make contact with the column or the nut holding the wheel on, I don't see how this happens. I believe I have an original wheel, but I'm not sure of that. Someone mentioned there should be something cast into the wheel. The only thing cast into my wheel I believe is the spline itself and I cannot see how the clip is supposed to make contact with that. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Seippel [mailto:aseippel at austin.rr.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:05 AM To: 'Heard Saxon'; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Horn button question There is a slip ring which is mounted to the dash behind the steering wheel. It is a brass disk that is has a wire attached. The wire is threaded through the dash and is connected to the horn through the wiring harness. The horns have power supplied (+12V on a negative grounded car or -12V on a positive grounded car) all of the time. The slip ring is connected to the push button on the steering wheel through the horn brush, The horn brush is a plastic tube with a spring between two conductive parts eclectically connected with a braided wire. When the horn button is pressed, the circuit is grounded and the horn blows. When diagnosing a horn problem, disconnect the wire from the sip ring and ground the wiring harness side of the connection. The horn should blow. If it doesn't, you need to verify the there is a voltage source on the horns. It is easiest to use a test light. If the horn blows, reconnect the wire and then ground the slip ring. If the horn blows, then ground the horn brush, etc. Work your way through the circuit until you find the problem. The horn button snaps into place. This is for the original Sprite parts. If you have an aftermarket steering wheel, all bets are off. :-) If you have any problems, email me and I will try to help further. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:33 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question Well, I'm progressing along with getting my '60 Bugeye back on the road, but I think I'm missing some horn button or steering wheel parts or I just don't understand how the thing works. Can someone please describe to me how (or where) the horn brush picks up the ground when you push the button. I understand the path from horn to the surround to the brush. What I don't see is how the brush under the button gets to ground. Is it coming from the column somehow? If so, what connects it to the column? Also, what is supposed to hold the button in place? Does it just snap in? I can see a hole in the side of the steering wheel. Is this for some sort of retaining screw? Thanks, Heard _______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 08:48:50 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:48:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone out there use clear fuel line like on Norton Cycles? Message-ID: List, OK I know this may sound stupid but you'll have to get over it ; ) I am going to install a metal fuel filter in the rear of my Sprite between the tank and the new Facet pump (the metal filter that came with the pump is too long). But I would also like to see the fuel coming from the line into the carbs but do not want to reduce psi with an additional see through filter so I remember old bikes I had (maybe even the one I have now) use clear fuel line so you can see the fuel coming through. See image on this ebay ad below. What are your thoughts on using a small section of see through line to go from the line to the carbs? Note this clear line is only 8" long going from the steel line under the hood to the carb. Thanks, Lin eBay Norton Commando with see through line: *http://tinyurl.com/3stk3rw* Search result for see through line: *http://tinyurl.com/4ylea2q* * * From aseippel at austin.rr.com Mon Jun 6 09:03:37 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:03:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question In-Reply-To: <0c3001cc2454$caf2bbe0$60d833a0$@net> References: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> <002901cc2452$c3ff04d0$4bfd0e70$@rr.com> <0c3001cc2454$caf2bbe0$60d833a0$@net> Message-ID: <003801cc245a$e9f42550$bddc6ff0$@rr.com> It is grounded to the side of the steering wheel which is metal. This is grounded though the shaft of the steering column. There are a couple of clips with teeth on the horn button that bite into the steering wheel and retain the horn button. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:20 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn button question I appreciate the help on this, but I understand the circuit from the brush going to the horn. All of that works. What I don't see is how the spring clip on the side of the horn button is supposed to make contact with a ground. If it is supposed to make contact with the column or the nut holding the wheel on, I don't see how this happens. I believe I have an original wheel, but I'm not sure of that. Someone mentioned there should be something cast into the wheel. The only thing cast into my wheel I believe is the spline itself and I cannot see how the clip is supposed to make contact with that. From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 09:20:55 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:20:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars Message-ID: Oh boy, who has those gaskets? The one at the lamp base was surprisingly very good but I believe the one to the body was completely MIA. Rick (always one more thing) Bastedo From: charles christ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 19:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars rick, it's pot metal. the studs are steel cast into it when made. paint it inside and outside! pot metal deteriorates quite quickly if left to the weather. they were painted body color. be certain to replace both the lamp base to plinth gasket as well as the plinth to body gasket. chuck. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 09:23:50 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:23:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm sorry, bought an NOS Sprite wheel late last year off of eBay for $250.00. This guy is out to lunch, and if anyone pays him that much for his wheel I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them too. Once isn a lifetime opportunity my A$$. Curt On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > There is a Midget one, only w/o the box by the same lister, for the same > price. > > She states the 58 wheel is a BMC original, but isn't 58 before BMC took > over?? > > Larry > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > > One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked > car. > > Sent from my Magical iPad > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > She didn't sell it first time around, so she offers it up for $1000 more. > I > > wonder if the green on her fingers, is known as "ganja" > > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner >wrote: > > > >> OMG!!! Starting price for this NOS steering wheel, US $2,454.45., > seller > >> is *greenfingersgirl*< > >> > http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/greenfingersgirl/?_trksid=p4340.l2559>I > >> think I would change the name a little .....wink! > >> Lin > >> > >> ebay: > >> *http://tinyurl.com/42ud3k6 > >> > >> ebay #: > >> *280689985783 > >> * > >> > >> * > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Mon Jun 6 09:51:12 2011 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:51:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone out there use clear fuel line like on Norton Cycles? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201106061551.p56FpS2F010807@mail.usimperio.com> >Should not be any problem at all. I ran that same fuel line when I >raced go-karts years ago, of course I was running pure alcohol / >nitro at the time. We used a 2 stroke mix after the races to purge >the system and there was never a problem except the lines getting >hard/stiff after a while. Never tried it on a pressurized system, >still I don't see a problem since it is only around 3 or 4 lbs of pressure. Dave >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1511/3684 - Release Date: 06/06/11 From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jun 6 09:54:29 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 10:54:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question In-Reply-To: <003801cc245a$e9f42550$bddc6ff0$@rr.com> References: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> <002901cc2452$c3ff04d0$4bfd0e70$@rr.com> <0c3001cc2454$caf2bbe0$60d833a0$@net> <003801cc245a$e9f42550$bddc6ff0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4DECF835.8040509@wi.net> Inside the wheel hub there should be a an area without paint, just bare aluminum. This should match the location of the brass circlip on the side of the horn button (it's like a loop on the exterior of the button and part of it is inside the button assembly. When I had my wheel redone the horn would not work. I finally figured out that the inside of the hub was painted. Scraped off the paint in that area and it works! That might be the problem. (?) Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 6/6/2011 10:03 AM, Jim Seippel wrote: > It is grounded to the side of the steering wheel which is metal. This is > grounded though the shaft of the steering column. There are a couple of > clips with teeth on the horn button that bite into the steering wheel and > retain the horn button. - Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:20 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn button question > > I appreciate the help on this, but I understand the circuit from the brush > going to the horn. All of that works. What I don't see is how the spring > clip on the side of the horn button is supposed to make contact with a > ground. If it is supposed to make contact with the column or the nut > holding the wheel on, I don't see how this happens. > > I believe I have an original wheel, but I'm not sure of that. Someone > mentioned there should be something cast into the wheel. The only thing > cast into my wheel I believe is the spline itself and I cannot see how the > clip is supposed to make contact with that. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 6 09:55:49 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:55:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] British Car Week In-Reply-To: References: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com>, Message-ID: I didn't get to take my Bugeye out this week either. When I pulled my head after blowing a head gasket earlier this year, (1098) I discovered that there was a line etched between cylinders #1 and #2. I can't skim hte head anymore since it's been cut about .100 already. machine shop guy says not that big a deal as he can weld the spot and then skim that part flat. I do have another 1098 head, but the one one the car has already been ported. Decisions, decisions. After popping the head gasket off, I discover that there is pitting on the block between also. ugggggh. looks like I have to pull the engine. Was hoping to be able to put that off til this winter. Choices I have to make: 1. Rebuild present 2 inch main 1098, I have a new standard crank and a set of .030 over pistons. (although it seems one piston is missing an oil ring) gonna be fun to find that. 2. rebuild a small main 1098 (that smokes) that I have sitting around. would make for a possible 1 day pull and swap. 3. bite the financial bullet and get a 1275, probably have to get it rebuilt. Probably could get away with $1500-2000 to do the 1098s, but looking at $3-4000 if it needs pistons, (likely) for the 1275. plus a new clutch setup, that I really didn't want to spend just now. Son graduating High school and needs a laptop for college, Mustang needs tires, wife's birthday comin up.... decisions, decisions, decisions Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C. > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:25 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > I certainly hope you are all enjoying your British cars this week. It's > > almost over, so if you haven't already been, get out and drive yours more > > than usual. This weekend I'll be on a two-day 750 mile Mini Lap of Virginia > > for classic Mini's only. > > > > http://www.britishcarweek.org/ > > > > Howard Collins > > Virginia Beach, VA. > > '60 AH Bugeye Sprite > > '68 Austin Mini > > > -- From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jun 6 09:56:15 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199682.90790.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hint: 9 letter word. Starts with an "E" and ends with a "Y". jay ________________________________ From: Rick Bastedo To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 11:20:55 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars Oh boy, who has those gaskets? From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:01:07 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:01:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The more I thought about this NOS wheel the more I started to think about the better looking and Concours correct wheel for the Bugeye, at a fraction the cost. Check out the spot on replica of the Sebring Sprite wheel available from friend Mike Lempert. I have a replica Lempert wheel for my 100 which is the last link posted http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/bugeye http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/invent2e 100M wheel research done by Roger Moment and Mike Lempert. As you can see the original wheel is riveted to the hub, as is my replica. http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/100m Cheers, Curt Chairman-Austin Healey Concours Committee (Yes, that includes Sprites too.) On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > I'm sorry, bought an NOS Sprite wheel late last year off of eBay for > $250.00. This guy is out to lunch, and if anyone pays him that much for his > wheel I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them too. Once isn a lifetime > opportunity my A$$. > > Curt > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > >> There is a Midget one, only w/o the box by the same lister, for the same >> price. >> >> She states the 58 wheel is a BMC original, but isn't 58 before BMC took >> over?? >> >> Larry >> >> -- >> >> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >> >> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked >> car. >> >> Sent from my Magical iPad >> >> On Jun 5, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: >> >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT >> > She didn't sell it first time around, so she offers it up for $1000 >> more. I >> > wonder if the green on her fingers, is known as "ganja" >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner > >wrote: >> > >> >> OMG!!! Starting price for this NOS steering wheel, US $2,454.45., >> seller >> >> is *greenfingersgirl*< >> >> >> http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/greenfingersgirl/?_trksid=p4340.l2559 >> >I >> >> think I would change the name a little .....wink! >> >> Lin >> >> >> >> ebay: >> >> *http://tinyurl.com/42ud3k6 >> >> >> >> ebay #: >> >> *280689985783 >> >> * >> >> >> >> * >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > DON JULIO 1942 >> > >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:03:10 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:03:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One last thing, The NOS wheel purchased last year went on a friends '55 Healey Boat restoration, since this was the wheel originally used. Curt On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > The more I thought about this NOS wheel the more I started to think about > the better looking and Concours correct wheel for the Bugeye, at a fraction > the cost. Check out the spot on replica of the Sebring Sprite wheel > available from friend Mike Lempert. I have a replica Lempert wheel for my > 100 which is the last link posted > > http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/bugeye > > http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/invent2e > > 100M wheel research done by Roger Moment and Mike Lempert. As you can see > the original wheel is riveted to the hub, as is my replica. > > http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/100m > > Cheers, > > Curt > Chairman-Austin Healey Concours Committee (Yes, that includes Sprites too.) > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > >> I'm sorry, bought an NOS Sprite wheel late last year off of eBay for >> $250.00. This guy is out to lunch, and if anyone pays him that much for his >> wheel I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them too. Once isn a lifetime >> opportunity my A$$. >> >> Curt >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Macy Larry wrote: >> >>> There is a Midget one, only w/o the box by the same lister, for the same >>> price. >>> >>> She states the 58 wheel is a BMC original, but isn't 58 before BMC took >>> over?? >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. >>> >>> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked >>> car. >>> >>> Sent from my Magical iPad >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: >>> >>> > >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672678671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT >>> > She didn't sell it first time around, so she offers it up for $1000 >>> more. I >>> > wonder if the green on her fingers, is known as "ganja" >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner >> >wrote: >>> > >>> >> OMG!!! Starting price for this NOS steering wheel, US $2,454.45., >>> seller >>> >> is *greenfingersgirl*< >>> >> >>> http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/greenfingersgirl/?_trksid=p4340.l2559 >>> >I >>> >> think I would change the name a little .....wink! >>> >> Lin >>> >> >>> >> ebay: >>> >> *http://tinyurl.com/42ud3k6 >>> >> >>> >> ebay #: >>> >> *280689985783 >>> >> * >>> >> >>> >> * >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > DON JULIO 1942 >>> > >>> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:05:38 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:05:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone out there use clear fuel line like on Norton Cycles? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My Honda bikes have clear filters, but the lines are not clear. My weed eaters have clear lines but Ethanol and/or two stroke oil seems to eat them up quick and make them brittle. I suppose success would depend on what the line is made of, some materials being resistant to fuel and alcohol. You may check a local marine supply or West Marine. They have good quality fuel line available and if it USCG rated for boats I would think it should be OK for cars. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:26:28 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:26:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. In-Reply-To: References: <31372.f177cac.3b1e1e7d@aol.com> Message-ID: OMG, Linda is going over to the dark side!!! Say goodbye to your bank account, Lin!! If you are seriously into racing there may be cheaper ways to do it than vintage in a Spridget.... Spec. Miata comes to mind.... Cheers!! Jim - BTDT and came back to reality again with therapy..... On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > OK you all have good reasons for me not getting a "fuel cell" right now but > if I decide to run my little Sprite on the track this is something I will > have to plan for. Plus I'll have to save up for very expensive transition. > I > am going to do the Hill Climb in Pa hopefully next year as the guys at the > tent at Carlisle convinced me it will be loads of fun. For the Hill Climb > you only need a 5 point seat belt and a Snell Approved Helmet. They said if > I join SCCA there are no fees for the climb. I may just volunteer for the > pits next year to see what I want to do for my climb the following year. It > would be nice if some of you guys come along as I think it would be loads > of > fun. You can take any car ; ) I'll send the link when I get home. > Lin > PS My fuel tank is fine on Pinky but the UK guys mentioned this NOS tank on > ebay as being super hard to find: * > http://tinyurl.com/4xplbvz > Sure would be nice to win ; ) > * > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 AM, wrote: > > > Because you have no space in the trunk, not even for a spare wheel and > > tyre. > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 06/06/2011 11:44:50 GMT Daylight Time, > > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > > > List, > > Who on the list is using a fuel cell gas tank in their Spridget and why > > aren't more people using them, besides cost? I was thinking about it so > the > > tank is in the trunk and not so low like the standard tank. > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jun 6 11:17:45 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:17:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn button question In-Reply-To: <4DECF835.8040509@wi.net> References: <0c0601cc2445$d2177dc0$76467940$@net> <002901cc2452$c3ff04d0$4bfd0e70$@rr.com> <0c3001cc2454$caf2bbe0$60d833a0$@net> <003801cc245a$e9f42550$bddc6ff0$@rr.com> <4DECF835.8040509@wi.net> Message-ID: <0c4e01cc246d$a6df9ed0$f49edc70$@net> Dave and others with ideas. You are correct! I took a closer look at the inside of the wheel hub and realized there IS a metal patch. It was so grunged up and black, I couldn't see it before. Thanks to all! Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Woerpel Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:54 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn button question Inside the wheel hub there should be a an area without paint, just bare aluminum. This should match the location of the brass circlip on the side of the horn button (it's like a loop on the exterior of the button and part of it is inside the button assembly. When I had my wheel redone the horn would not work. I finally figured out that the inside of the hub was painted. Scraped off the paint in that area and it works! That might be the problem. (?) Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 6/6/2011 10:03 AM, Jim Seippel wrote: > It is grounded to the side of the steering wheel which is metal. This is > grounded though the shaft of the steering column. There are a couple of > clips with teeth on the horn button that bite into the steering wheel and > retain the horn button. - Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:20 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn button question > > I appreciate the help on this, but I understand the circuit from the brush > going to the horn. All of that works. What I don't see is how the spring > clip on the side of the horn button is supposed to make contact with a > ground. If it is supposed to make contact with the column or the nut > holding the wheel on, I don't see how this happens. > > I believe I have an original wheel, but I'm not sure of that. Someone > mentioned there should be something cast into the wheel. The only thing > cast into my wheel I believe is the spline itself and I cannot see how the > clip is supposed to make contact with that. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 6 11:17:58 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 10:17:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Are you trying to run bolts all the way through the box section and into the cockpit? I'm not sure that's a good way to mount it. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 11:39:03 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:39:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. In-Reply-To: References: <31372.f177cac.3b1e1e7d@aol.com> Message-ID: Linda, You are on a slippery slope with the hill climb!! Years ago I started autocrossing my bugeye then "decided" to try the hillclimb in Ellenville NY. I won in my class and I was bitten, much time and effort went to convert the car to a real racer. BTW I "cheated" in the hill climb. I went out and bought a 5.36 rear. It is amazing what gears can do if you do not need a high top speed. Good luck and watch the bank account. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:57:38 To: Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. List, OK you all have good reasons for me not getting a "fuel cell" right now but if I decide to run my little Sprite on the track this is something I will have to plan for. Plus I'll have to save up for very expensive transition. I am going to do the Hill Climb in Pa hopefully next year as the guys at the tent at Carlisle convinced me it will be loads of fun. For the Hill Climb you only need a 5 point seat belt and a Snell Approved Helmet. They said if I join SCCA there are no fees for the climb. I may just volunteer for the pits next year to see what I want to do for my climb the following year. It would be nice if some of you guys come along as I think it would be loads of fun. You can take any car ; ) I'll send the link when I get home. Lin PS My fuel tank is fine on Pinky but the UK guys mentioned this NOS tank on ebay as being super hard to find: * http://tinyurl.com/4xplbvz Sure would be nice to win ; ) * On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 AM, wrote: > Because you have no space in the trunk, not even for a spare wheel and > tyre. > > > > > In a message dated 06/06/2011 11:44:50 GMT Daylight Time, > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > List, > Who on the list is using a fuel cell gas tank in their Spridget and why > aren't more people using them, besides cost? I was thinking about it so the > tank is in the trunk and not so low like the standard tank. > Lin _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jun 6 11:55:18 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:55:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5732D119-FD63-40A8-83E0-1A981E932C21@snet.net> And if that's what you're doing, tell the person in the passenger seat to stand by the side of the car until you're finished drilling Jay -An iPhone communication- On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Are you trying to run bolts all the way through the box section and into the > cockpit? I'm not sure that's a good way to mount it. From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jun 6 12:15:30 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <722744.55854.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> What a coincidence. That one is just like this one. http://tinyurl.com/4x45cqr jay fishbein wallingford, CT ________________________________ From: Curt/Nancy Arndt To: Macy Larry Cc: Spridgets net Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 12:01:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. The more I thought about this NOS wheel the more I started to think about the better looking and Concours correct wheel for the Bugeye, at a fraction the cost. Check out the spot on replica of the Sebring Sprite wheel available from friend Mike Lempert. I have a replica Lempert wheel for my 100 which is the last link posted http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/bugeye From pchast at francomm.com Mon Jun 6 13:01:21 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 15:01:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lin, If you drill through both walls and bolt them together you will hurt the structure of the car by deforming the metal. Look for Pop Rivet Nuts. The 1/4 inch size is plenty strong enough to hold your pump. Pete Athens, NY '65 Midget project On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:17:58 -0400, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Are you trying to run bolts all the way through the box section and into > the > cockpit? I'm not sure that's a good way to mount it. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:12:39 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:12:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: <722744.55854.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <722744.55854.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jay, Exactly what I was talking about, a beautiful wheel, correct for the Bugeye at a fraction the cost of the NOS original listed on eBay. Curt :{) On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Jay wrote: > What a coincidence. That one is just like this one. > > http://tinyurl.com/4x45cqr > jay fishbein > wallingford, CT > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > To: Macy Larry > Cc: Spridgets net > Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 12:01:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel > starting > bid US $2, 454.45. > > The more I thought about this NOS wheel the more I started to think about > the better looking and Concours correct wheel for the Bugeye, at a fraction > the cost. Check out the spot on replica of the Sebring Sprite wheel > available from friend Mike Lempert. I have a replica Lempert wheel for my > 100 which is the last link posted > > http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/bugeye > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From bkitterer at me.com Mon Jun 6 13:44:13 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:44:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Make your own, it is easy. Find an industrial hardware or materials store (maybe auto supply) where you can buy 1/16 inch thick sheet neoprene and pick up a foot or two of material. Lay it out on a flat surface and trace the plinth, cut the material. You can make most of the flat gaskets this way and the material is better than what you get from most of the suppliers. The windshield plinth gasket is another place to do this. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Oh boy, who has those gaskets? > The one at the lamp base was surprisingly very good but I believe the one to > the body was completely MIA. > > Rick (always one more thing) Bastedo From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 6 14:26:17 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:26:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Look for Pop Rivet Nuts. The 1/4 inch size is plenty strong But use steel Riv-Nuts rather than aluminum, and use a good installation tool...at least the ratcheting one. I don't care for the regular HF types that look like pop riveters. They don't squeeze the steel Riv-Nuts enough to keep them tight. BZ From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Mon Jun 6 14:58:06 2011 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:58:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question for the group Message-ID: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> I finished the restoration of my Bugeye a couple of years ago, 1275, rib case, and front disk brakes. Naturally I kept the old parts. The question is should I keep the old parts so someone could refit to achieve originality? Do people actually that? Do these parts have any value? Parts in question: 948 engine block, crank, rods, head. Smooth case transmission 1 and 1/8 carbs Swivel axel and pin for drum brake front suspension Drum brake parts, backing plates Lower A arms with no provision for sway bar. Advice? Herb Miller AN5 -L/22907 From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 15:07:43 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:07:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question for the group In-Reply-To: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> References: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> Message-ID: > The question is should I keep the old parts so someone could refit to > achieve originality? Do people actually that? Do these parts have any value? Ten years ago it was simple.. Try to find someone foolish enough to give you $20 for the lot of it or else toss it. As the supply of nice Bugeyes (and other Spridgets) dwindles, it becomes more important to keep things reversible. If you have space to keep them, do so. Or else toss them and make everyone else's parts more valuable. David L From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 16:10:35 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: <199682.90790.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <199682.90790.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <692779.46048.qm@web112710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> early? oh , no that does not contain 9 letters. um gimmie more of a clue? does it contain the letter "q"?? chuck. ________________________________ From: Jay To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 11:56:15 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars Hint: 9 letter word. Starts with an "E" and ends with a "Y". jay ________________________________ From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 16:19:28 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars now rubber gaskets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <847461.91508.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> i prefer to use a renewable resource....blown out truck tire innertubes along america's highways. the stuff is durable and plentifull. check out the tire store for junk tubes from thinner thickness rubber lawn trailer tires or car tires. free black gasket material forflat gaskets like wiper chrome thingy's , lic. plinths, early car windshield post to body...oh the uses are beyond your belief! and remember the old hole punch you threw out because no one punches holes in papers for three ring binders anymore? well it's a perfect size hole for screw holes or a wire to pass through like in the plate lamp plinth. the punches came in diffrent sizes too! yeah i have the ones my friends threw out! another renewable resource! friends junk they think is junk..... *grin* chuck. ________________________________ From: Kitterer Bob To: Spridgets Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 3:44:13 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars Make your own, it is easy. Find an industrial hardware or materials store (maybe auto supply) where you can buy 1/16 inch thick sheet neoprene and pick up a foot or two of material. Lay it out on a flat surface and trace the plinth, cut the material. You can make most of the flat gaskets this way and the material is better than what you get from most of the suppliers. The windshield plinth gasket is another place to do this. From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 16:25:27 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: <5732D119-FD63-40A8-83E0-1A981E932C21@snet.net> References: <5732D119-FD63-40A8-83E0-1A981E932C21@snet.net> Message-ID: <97813.66625.qm@web112717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> yeah i think drilling yer friend from behind while installing a pump is not acceptable. just ask the person to be patient and wait before getting in the car. it's just not right i tell ya! ________________________________ From: Jay Fishbein Cc: spridgets Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 1:55:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. And if that's what you're doing, tell the person in the passenger seat to stand by the side of the car until you're finished drilling Jay -An iPhone communication- On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Are you trying to run bolts all the way through the box section and into the > cockpit? I'm not sure that's a good way to mount it. _______________________________________________ From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 16:28:25 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] hillclimbing a spridget Message-ID: <968493.97726.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> charlie you live closer to linda. tell her how much fun it is.....and remind her that this weekend is spring weatherly hillclimb in weatherly pa.! we will be corner working due to a funding issue. chuck. From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 16:35:24 2011 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Question for the group In-Reply-To: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> Message-ID: <1470296825.1403146.1307399724270.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Well Herb, they ain't makin' any of that stuff any more, at least with some semblance of quality.B Junking it would be something akin to killing a specimen of an endagered species.B Value?B Yeah, whatever someone would pay for them.B B You could put them on Ebay to see whether there is anyone out there who needs this stuff. --David C. "Those who can, teach. Those who cannot pass laws about teaching." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Miller" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 4:58:06 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Question for the group I finished the restoration of my Bugeye a couple of years ago, 1275, rib case, and front disk brakes. Naturally I kept the old parts. The question is should I keep the old parts so someone could refit to achieve originality? Do people actually that? Do these parts have any value? Parts in question: 948 engine block, crank, rods, head. Smooth case transmission 1 and 1/8 carbs Swivel axel and pin for drum brake front suspension Drum brake parts, backing plates Lower A arms with no provision for sway bar. B Advice? B Herb Miller AN5 -L/22907 B B B Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676 at comcast.net From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 16:42:44 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:42:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Question for the group In-Reply-To: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> References: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> Message-ID: Herb, I say yes, keep it and if you ever sell the car these original parts should go with it in the sale. And yes people do restore Bugeye's using original equipment. My original smoothcase is being rebuilt with NOS ribcase parts, my 948 is being upgraded to a 998, and while not a tricked out 1275 will perform adequately, and still look like the day it rolled out of the factory. These parts have some value, or as David L. wrote either find room for them or get rid of them make all of my spares more valuable. Of course I'd be willing to take this stuff off your hands for the price of shipping ;-) Cheers, Curt :{) On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Herbert Miller wrote: > I finished the restoration of my Bugeye a couple of years ago, 1275, rib > case, and front disk brakes. Naturally I kept the old parts. > > The question is should I keep the old parts so someone could refit to > achieve originality? Do people actually that? Do these parts have any > value? > > Parts in question: > > 948 engine block, crank, rods, head. > > Smooth case transmission > > 1 and 1/8 carbs > > Swivel axel and pin for drum brake front suspension > > Drum brake parts, backing plates > > Lower A arms with no provision for sway bar. > > > > Advice? > > > > Herb Miller > > AN5 -L/22907 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From montpaul at msn.com Mon Jun 6 18:14:50 2011 From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:14:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Question for the group In-Reply-To: References: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net>, Message-ID: Sell it all on e-bay > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:42:44 -0700 > From: cnaarndt at gmail.com > To: hgmiller3 at qwest.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question for the group > > Herb, > > I say yes, keep it and if you ever sell the car these original parts should > go with it in the sale. And yes people do restore Bugeye's using original > equipment. My original smoothcase is being rebuilt with NOS ribcase parts, > my 948 is being upgraded to a 998, and while not a tricked out 1275 will > perform adequately, and still look like the day it rolled out of the > factory. > > These parts have some value, or as David L. wrote either find room for them > or get rid of them make all of my spares more valuable. Of course I'd be > willing to take this stuff off your hands for the price of shipping ;-) > > Cheers, > > Curt :{) > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Herbert Miller wrote: > > > I finished the restoration of my Bugeye a couple of years ago, 1275, rib > > case, and front disk brakes. Naturally I kept the old parts. > > > > The question is should I keep the old parts so someone could refit to > > achieve originality? Do people actually that? Do these parts have any > > value? > > > > Parts in question: > > > > 948 engine block, crank, rods, head. > > > > Smooth case transmission > > > > 1 and 1/8 carbs > > > > Swivel axel and pin for drum brake front suspension > > > > Drum brake parts, backing plates > > > > Lower A arms with no provision for sway bar. > > > > > > > > Advice? > > > > > > > > Herb Miller > > > > AN5 -L/22907 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/montpaul at msn.com From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Mon Jun 6 19:01:25 2011 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:01:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110607010130.6692A187651@autox.team.net> Lin: That bulkhead has a vertical panel on the outside (in front of the diff) and an angled panel on the inside. Look at your Victoria British or Moss diagrams. It is there to provide two cross-chassis surfaces to anchor the rear of the floors to the unibody - adds much strength that way. So there is a wedge shaped cavity between them. If you do use Billy's suggestion of riv-nuts, don't drill through both panels (unless it is too late). I would suggest mounting the fuel pump on the curved part of the trunk floor behind the diff, off to the passenger side. There is only one thickness of sheet metal there. I have had a Facet on my '67 vintage racer mounted there since 1995 on the inside of the boot next to the fuel cell, but on my '72 street car I mounted one in the same place but on the outside, mostly to accommodate the external fuel lines from the external fuel tank on the street car and the internal fuel lines from the fuel cell in the boot on the race car. I would recommend using rubber spacers to minimize the vibration and noise and a separate little ground wire. Regarding your question about a fuel cell - they are expensive, and you lose all storage space in the boot, including that for the spare tire. You don't want to mount it on the underside of the boot floor like the stock arrangement since they are generally thicker than the tank and have a top filler. Don't cut a hole in the boot floor to mount it half in and half out - the sheetmetal tends to crack with the weight and vibration. Plus you would have to get the output fuel line from inside the boot to outside the boot so it goes under the car to the front. On my racer, I have braided SS line that runs through the steel bulkhead and along the passenger side of the transmission tunnel through the right hand steering shaft hole in the foot box and across the steering rack to the fuel block and pressure regulator on the driver side inner fender. Also , if you are going hill climbing or racing, check with the group you intend to race with to see if they require a fuel cell. All vintage race groups I have raced with for the past 20 years do, but if you go with NASA, EMRA, Hooked-On-Driving, etc. you may not. Are you going to really race or just tour around the track, do track days, or light schools? Enough for now. I think that covers it. Bob BZ said: Look for Pop Rivet Nuts. The 1/4 inch size is plenty strong But use steel Riv-Nuts rather than aluminum, and use a good installation tool...at least the ratcheting one. I don't care for the regular HF types that look like pop riveters. They don't squeeze the steel Riv-Nuts enough to keep them tight. BZ From ah3000me at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 19:02:55 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:02:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone out there use clear fuel line like on Norton Cycles? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That was my experience with clear fuel line, too. After a season it becomes hard and doesn't seal well anymore. I used it because I wanted to see what was happening, too. But it didn't really work well, so I have one of those clear fuel filters in my gas line now. - tom On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM, derf wrote: > My Honda bikes have clear filters, but the lines are not clear. My > weed eaters have clear lines but Ethanol and/or two stroke oil seems > to eat them up quick and make them brittle. > I suppose success would depend on what the line is made of, some > materials being resistant to fuel and alcohol. You may check a local > marine supply or West Marine. They have good quality fuel line > available and if it USCG rated for boats I would think it should be OK > for cars. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah3000me at gmail.com From creel906 at msn.com Mon Jun 6 19:03:17 2011 From: creel906 at msn.com (Charles Reel) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:03:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Non stick concrete surface In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Garage Flooring, I built a new garage a few years back, as I'm in the flooring business I was going to use commercial floor tile, black and white checker, been done, no I though a British Flag design. That would look great I thought to myself, after thinking about it some more, no, who's going to clean and wax it down the road. Not me. I also knew I was tired of laying on a cold concrete floor. I had a customer the previous year that bought a large order of commercial carpet that we installed, very expensive stuff. Then I got a call, the carpet got a little wet, they were so afraid of mold, they had me rip it out and install floor tile. As this carpet was totally synthetic mold wasn't an issue, guess were that carpet is now, yep, my garage is carpeted, open the door and use the leaf blower, I love it, down four years now, heck you can take a nap on it. I love it even more now that the 4 post lift is here. Oh, I have another building that I weld in, rubber drip mats do the trick. So no welding, and no painting, but everything else. Charlie Reel > From: edwd at ti.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 00:27:21 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] Non stick concrete surface > > BZ- 10 years ago I painted my shop floor with a 2-part epoxy paint that has been nothing short of amazing. It has had every type of fluif spilled upon it and I even had a small puddle of gas catch fire and it didn't even discolor. However, if I recall correctly, it is not made for direct UV exposure. 10 years is a long time though, so perhaps they have a formulation that will fit your application. It is imperative that you etch the concrete with muriatic acid before you apply whatever finish you end up with, this I know to be true. Then rinse and re-rinse. There are non-slip additives that you can either put into the paint or sprinkle on top. I should have heeded that advice as my floor is slicker than snot when wet. Go to a paint contractor supply store and explain your need. They are not only less expensive (50 percent) than Home Depot, but they know their product since no contractor wants return calls for a finish that hasn't held. Also, if you go with epoxy, sp > end the 10 bucks or so for a mixer that you can chuck up to an electric drill, full and complete mixing is critical. Buy application tools that can be discarded, there is no cleanup, tried it, even with the recommended solvent. Rollers and brushes are cheap though, and the flow of the product will show no stroke marks. Let it cure a week, scratch it with 80 grit or even 60 on a wall board sander (I got about a thimble full of dust from a 30x50 floor) and second coat it with application 90 degrees from the first coat. > > Another option could be a ceramic tile that is 'pebbled' for that natural slate look, it is relatively slip resistant. > Good luck, and let us know what you find out please, my back patio is gonna need something someday soon. > > Ed > Dallas, Tx > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/creel906 at msn.com From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Jun 6 19:05:50 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:05:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> <4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net> Message-ID: <0D3131BA-B980-4867-9988-DBDCA701BF15@chartermi.net> Well the lump is a Triumph engine, but unfortunately not de-smogged. Has air injection, catalytic converter, all kinds of valves, and about 47 miles of vacuum lines. Poop. :-( Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > I think the lump is a de-smogged Triumph engine, but I haven't raised the bonnet since I got it home. Grandbaby, graduation party for the neighbor's kid, and the usual Saturday chores have kept me busy today. :-) > > Rick From theshoe5 at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 19:53:24 2011 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:53:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Question for the group In-Reply-To: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> References: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> Message-ID: Herb, I did the same thing you did. Finished mine more than ten years ago and the old 948 is still sitting under my workbench and the rest of the parts are in my basement. I'll hang on to them just in case. My car was also titled with the engine number not the chassis number so I guess that's one more reason to hang onto the original stuff. Alan Gruskos '59 Sprite >I finished the restoration of my Bugeye a couple of years ago, 1275, rib > case, and front disk brakes. Naturally I kept the old parts. > > The question is should I keep the old parts so someone could refit to > achieve originality? Do people actually that? Do these parts have any > value? > > > Advice? From an5.sprite at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 21:18:45 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 03:18:45 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: <0D3131BA-B980-4867-9988-DBDCA701BF15@chartermi.net> References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net><4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net><0D3131BA-B980-4867-9988-DBDCA701BF15@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Just think how much better it will run once all that extra weight is removed!!! Steve 59 Bugeye Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:05:50 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th Well the lump is a Triumph engine, but unfortunately not de-smogged. Has air injection, catalytic converter, all kinds of valves, and about 47 miles of vacuum lines. Poop. :-( Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > I think the lump is a de-smogged Triumph engine, but I haven't raised the bonnet since I got it home. Grandbaby, graduation party for the neighbor's kid, and the usual Saturday chores have kept me busy today. :-) > > Rick _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 22:02:30 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:02:30 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Those were the days my friend... Message-ID: <28162173.1307419350787.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> http://www.americantorque.com/game/car-show-50s/ Once upon a time there was a tavern Where we used to raise a glass or two Remember how we laughed away the hours And dreamed of all the great things we would do Those were the days my friend We thought they'd never end We'd sing and dance forever and a day We'd live the life we choose We'd fight and never lose For we were young and sure to have our way. La la la la... Those were the days, oh yes those were the days Then the busy years went rushing by us We lost our starry notions on the way If by chance I'd see you in the tavern We'd smile at one another and we'd say Those were the days my friend We thought they'd never end We'd sing and dance forever and a day We'd live the life we choose We'd fight and never lose For we were young and sure to have our way. La la la la... Those were the days, oh yes those were the days Just tonight I stood before the tavern Nothing seemed the way it used to be In the glass I saw a strange reflection Was that lonely woman really me Those were the days my friend We thought they'd never end We'd sing and dance forever and a day We'd live the life we choose We'd fight and never lose For we were young and sure to have our way. La la la la... Those were the days, oh yes those were the days Through the door there came familiar laughter I saw your face and heard you call my name Oh my friend we're older but no wiser For in our hearts the dreams are still the same Those were the days my friend We thought they'd never end We'd sing and dance forever and a day We'd live the life we choose We'd fight and never lose For we were young and sure to have our way. La la la la... Those were the days, oh yes those were the days From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 22:51:29 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (R.B. Evans) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:51:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] When in SoCal, drive this course!! Message-ID: <092795B705CB496BB67EF94A16D10999@BusterPC> If any of you find yourself in Southern California, let me know and I will take you down to Long Beach where you can drive the Long Beach Gran Prix circuit! It is all on city streets. It is quite a site in the months following the race, to see all of the rubber covering the streets, as well on rubber and paint transfers on the concrete barriers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHMoXTi0Qqk Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 22:55:29 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (R.B. Evans) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:55:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Twin Cities man creates a country club for cars In-Reply-To: References: <003401cc248c$7165f370$5431da50$@qwest.net> Message-ID: <14622B3E543840E9926B8BD27064744B@BusterPC> http://www.kare11.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=958137284001 From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 22:59:58 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:59:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc Message-ID: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Jim Johnson wrote: b Worked with a guy in Houston who had 4 separate PhD's by the time he was 22. And they were in math and science!! We had to help him tie his shoes and occasionally had to go show him how to get to where he lived.b&b Ah, you were lucky, Jim. After careers, among others, as a newspaper reporter and editor, and as a cop, I went back to school to get my BA and advanced degrees. After that I found myself on the history faculty at a major university with 1,200 PhD. Now it must be remembered that a PhD simply means that the person has simply done further study of a VERY narrow subject within their discipline. (Mine was the influence on Congressmen from districts with large free and slave negroes when voting on race-related issues from 1830-1860.) For myself, I forbid my students from addressing me as either b Doctorb or b Professorb . b Mr.b was fine by me. (At one point, we hired a new Academic VP who refused to address anyone as b Doctorb unless the person was a MEDICAL doctor. Unfortunately, too many PhDbs let their ego take control, and they believe they are expert on ALL issues, even outside their discipline. (Remember, those who teach in grades K-12 must take courses in teaching and pass national and State tests. PhDbs need no training to teach; just the PhD b union cardb . And, most have been institutionalized since they were 5--from kindergarten to elementary school to junior high school to high school to college to post-graduate university. Few have been out in the real world, holding a job or meeting a payroll. Fewer still have served in the military. From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 23:03:06 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:03:06 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] L.A. British car show Message-ID: <17694696.1307422987000.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Great bunch of photos from the Woodlands (CA) British Car Show, with some very interesting cars! https://picasaweb.google.com/104973305347633073496/Woodland2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCP6B0NTGiejT8gE# From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 23:05:03 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:05:03 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] The E-Type's Golden Anniversary Message-ID: <21789766.1307423103652.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13644044 From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:24:11 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.net ? Message-ID: Any one know if there is a Cadillac STS list? I'm having A/C issues. Thanks, Herb -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:48:22 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:48:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: What? You were expecting a contrary view pint maybe?..... Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:59 PM, wrote: > Jim Johnson wrote: b Worked with a guy in Houston who had 4 separate PhD's > by the time he was 22. And they were in math and science!! We had to help > him > tie his shoes > and occasionally had to go show him how to get to where he lived.b&b > > Ah, you were lucky, Jim. After careers, among others, as a newspaper > reporter > and editor, and as a cop, I went back to school to get my BA and advanced > degrees. After that I found myself on the history faculty at a major > university with 1,200 PhD. Now it must be remembered that a PhD simply > means > that the person has simply done further study of a VERY narrow subject > within > their discipline. (Mine was the influence on Congressmen from districts > with > large free and slave negroes when voting on race-related issues from > 1830-1860.) For myself, I forbid my students from addressing me as either > b Doctorb or b Professorb . b Mr.b was fine by me. (At one point, we > hired a new Academic VP who refused to address anyone as b Doctorb unless > the person was a MEDICAL doctor. Unfortunately, too many PhDb s let their > ego take control, and they believe they are expert on ALL issues, even > outside > their discipline. (Remember, those who teach in grades K-12 must take > courses > in teaching and pass national and State tests. PhDb s need no training to > teach; just the PhD b union cardb . And, most have been institutionalized > since they were 5--from kindergarten to elementary school to junior high > school to high school to college to post-graduate university. Few have > been > out in the real world, holding a job or meeting a payroll. Fewer still > have > served in the military. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:56:08 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:56:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.net ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HERETIC!!! On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, WFO Herb wrote: > Any one know if there is a Cadillac STS list? I'm having A/C issues. > > Thanks, > > Herb > > -- > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jun 7 01:03:21 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 03:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Non stick concrete surface Message-ID: <105a6e.10fe70dc.3b1f2739@aol.com> So is mine, though it's got oily patches you can't see so when I'm lying on the floor, even in overalls I put a piece of cardboard down first. One day I plan to replace the carpet in the garage with more carpet. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 07/06/2011 02:12:34 GMT Daylight Time, creel906 at msn.com writes: yep, my garage is carpeted From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jun 7 01:05:16 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 03:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Those were the days my friend... Message-ID: <105af0.d04266c.3b1f27ac@aol.com> Mary Hopkins, Opportunnity Knocks - when I was still in short trousers Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 07/06/2011 05:12:27 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: Those were the days my friend From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jun 7 02:26:19 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 04:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds Message-ID: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> (I regret that family crises have caused a tardy response to the character assassination.) ___________________________________________ Larry Daniels wrote: b Buster, you just go right on being a racist asshole as you have proven to be over the years.b Ah, Larry, I truly stand in awe of your magnificent command of the English language, and your unequaled skills at debate, analytical reasoning and argumentation. You truly have an ability at b reductio ad absurdumb (reduce to the absurd) that deserves a role in the current administration! Such nonsensical assertion, I submit, is aimed at simplistic minds ruled by emotion rather than reasoned, rational thought. But why did you deny the good people evidence of your witless assertion? (In early 2009, I challenged your excoriation of another bold member who dared speak his mind on the Obama election. In a personal message, I pointed out that of the *non-black vote*, McCain received 52.49% (59,093,740) and Obama 47.51%. Further, I pointed out that of the b blackb vote, Obama received 95% (15,979,872), McCain only 5% (841,046); virtual block voting by blacks. That, I fear, unleashed e-mails that all, in one way or another, fired off the same vacuous allegation.) I fear that within our lifetime we have seen two seminal events in American political history. Historically, politicians of both major parties have been able to vigorously **debate** important issues of the day, but then leave the halls of Congress as the very best of friends, all without resorting to personal invective and name calling (much like the Ginsberg-Scalia friendship). Even the closest, most obviously corrupt elections did not cause hysteria among losers. (Witness Nixonbs finest hour when he refused to challenge the 1960 election won by Kennedy only through the overwhelming graveyard votes in Illinois, and LBJbs clear and widespread frauds in Texas.) This would change dramatically in 2000 when, despite the fact that they exercised all of their Constitutional options (and results shown legitimate by scholarly and media analysis), Gore supporters, especially among the hard-left, launched deep-seated visceral and malignant **personal** attacks on everyone and everything they opposed. Intellectual, well-thought out debate became the victim of their animosity and antagonism. Secondly, race was made a presidential issue beginning in 2008, not by Republicans, but by Obama sycophants following in the path begun in 2000. Early in his administration, the new presidentbs race would become his first line of defense against those who opposed his policies. Either unwilling, or more likely incapable of accepting that differing people could have legitimate differing political philosophies, they would retaliate in pure character assassination, alleging **racism** to be the basis of any and all opposition. According to this credo, opposition to Obamacare was met with hyper-emotionally charges of racism against Obama, and against all blacks as a form of class warfare. After the election, he continued to perpetuate his campaignbs Messianic image. Once elected, all pretense of compromise, negotiation or bi-partisanship was cast aside, replaced by an imperiousness that embraced the notion that only he in Washington possessed "the way, the truth and the light". This, then, provided a justification for actions that ignored both the Constitution and Federal Law. (Witness his current refusal to recognize or abide by the Democratic inspired b War Powers Actb legislation.) In pursuit of a malevolent totalitarian Messianic democracy either unwilling or incapable of reasoned, rational debate or defense of his actions, he and his cultists have simply resorted to allegations of b racismb , a form of character assassination never afforded any previous president because they were Caucasian. Buster Evans From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 04:17:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 06:17:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Those were the days my friend... In-Reply-To: <105af0.d04266c.3b1f27ac@aol.com> References: <105af0.d04266c.3b1f27ac@aol.com> Message-ID: OMG I was older ....very scary, I really liked that song. I'm going to play that game while proctoring my final exams instead of grading papers ; ) Thanks Buster. Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:05 AM, wrote: > Mary Hopkins, Opportunnity Knocks - when I was still in short trousers > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 07/06/2011 05:12:27 GMT Daylight Time, > b-evans at earthlink.net writes: > > Those were the days my friend > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 04:25:20 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 06:25:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I was horrified when I finally got back to college (at 27 years old) that my professors did not even have one teaching class, nor was it required. Hummm maybe that is why I had difficulty figuring out what they were trying to explain ; ) I wish all students were notified of that when they started college so they don't beat up on themselves when they drop out. Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > What? You were expecting a contrary view pint maybe?..... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:59 PM, wrote: > > > Jim Johnson wrote: b Worked with a guy in Houston who had 4 separate > PhD's > > by the time he was 22. And they were in math and science!! We had to help > > him > > tie his shoes > > and occasionally had to go show him how to get to where he lived.b&b > > > > Ah, you were lucky, Jim. After careers, among others, as a newspaper > > reporter > > and editor, and as a cop, I went back to school to get my BA and advanced > > degrees. After that I found myself on the history faculty at a major > > university with 1,200 PhD. Now it must be remembered that a PhD simply > > means > > that the person has simply done further study of a VERY narrow subject > > within > > their discipline. (Mine was the influence on Congressmen from districts > > with > > large free and slave negroes when voting on race-related issues from > > 1830-1860.) For myself, I forbid my students from addressing me as > either > > b Doctorb or b Professorb . b Mr.b was fine by me. (At one point, we > > hired a new Academic VP who refused to address anyone as b Doctorb > unless > > the person was a MEDICAL doctor. Unfortunately, too many PhDb s let > their > > ego take control, and they believe they are expert on ALL issues, even > > outside > > their discipline. (Remember, those who teach in grades K-12 must take > > courses > > in teaching and pass national and State tests. PhDb s need no training > to > > teach; just the PhD b union cardb . And, most have been > institutionalized > > since they were 5--from kindergarten to elementary school to junior high > > school to high school to college to post-graduate university. Few have > > been > > out in the real world, holding a job or meeting a payroll. Fewer still > > have > > served in the military. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Tue Jun 7 05:49:53 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 04:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <384425.70251.qm@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> this is all very true. in my family i'm the "black sheep" getting dirty working on cars. family members included college math professor , high school teacher with three degrees , elementry library head for a large (multiple schools) district , 4th grade nstructor , high school chemestry instructor and a few engineers(not the rail road type!). family gatherings were on a very unusual level of conversation that i really never "got". but the point to be made is the concentration on higher level jobs or people with "genius" status seems to be that the concentration or focus or direction is so intense that everything else falls into a severe background priority. my aunt purchased all her clother in tones of one color as she could not decide what to wear , and simple tasks like cleaning house was just impossible to do. i've seen pretty much "all" in the oddities in smart people. but the hardest part is not picking up after them! it's existing with them! since childhood i've been told i'm not applying myself. that came from my family members. because i did not function on their expected level i was frequetly chastised by them. watch , learn and live! yeah i have crappy speling and cannot find the darn "caps lock" fer the life of me but i can rebuild a motorcycle in my livingroom and do a spridget engine on my desk. (did both at difrent times in my life. now all deligated to the shop......gives way to harmony in the home....see i learned something!) :) chuck. off to small engine repair world for fun and profit! and why did my college pschyc. prof always smell like pot.........? nawwww , he could not have ...he's the instructor...right? ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 6:25:20 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc I was horrified when I finally got back to college (at 27 years old) that my professors did not even have one teaching class, nor was it required. Hummm maybe that is why I had difficulty figuring out what they were trying to explain ; ) I wish all students were notified of that when they started college so they don't beat up on themselves when they drop out. Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 06:33:13 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:33:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] L.A. British car show In-Reply-To: <17694696.1307422987000.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <17694696.1307422987000.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Nice cars Buster. Thanks Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:03 AM, wrote: > Great bunch of photos from the Woodlands (CA) British Car Show, with some > very interesting cars! > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/104973305347633073496/Woodland2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCP6B0NTGiejT8gE# > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 06:43:05 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: <722744.55854.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <722744.55854.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OMG Jay yes that is "freaking beautiful". What project was that? Do you have the same one on your "pink" beauty? Lin On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Jay wrote: > What a coincidence. That one is just like this one. > > http://tinyurl.com/4x45cqr > jay fishbein > wallingford, CT > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Curt/Nancy Arndt > To: Macy Larry > Cc: Spridgets net > Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 12:01:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel > starting > bid US $2, 454.45. > > The more I thought about this NOS wheel the more I started to think about > the better looking and Concours correct wheel for the Bugeye, at a fraction > the cost. Check out the spot on replica of the Sebring Sprite wheel > available from friend Mike Lempert. I have a replica Lempert wheel for my > 100 which is the last link posted > > http://www.pbase.com/mdlempert/bugeye > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 06:45:01 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:45:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.net ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim you crack me up : ) Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > HERETIC!!! > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, WFO Herb wrote: > > > Any one know if there is a Cadillac STS list? I'm having A/C issues. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Herb > > > > -- > > Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you > > forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which > > includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not > > wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the > > history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from > being > > propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. > > > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! > Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 > Info & Registration here: > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 06:47:33 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:47:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <384425.70251.qm@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <384425.70251.qm@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: To me Chuck this statement you made "but I can rebuild a motorcycle in my living room and do a spridget engine on my desk" is worth all the degrees on the planet ; ) Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:49 AM, charles christ wrote: > this is all very true. in my family i'm the "black sheep" getting dirty > working on cars. family members included college math professor , high > school > teacher with three degrees , elementry library head for a large > (multiple > schools) district , 4th grade nstructor , high school chemestry > instructor and a > few engineers(not the rail road type!). family gatherings > were on a very > unusual level of conversation that i really never "got". > but the point to be > made is the concentration on higher level jobs or people > with "genius" status > seems to be that the concentration or focus or direction > is so intense that > everything else falls into a severe background > priority. my aunt purchased > all her clother in tones of one color as she > could not decide what to wear , and > simple tasks like cleaning house was just > impossible to do. i've seen pretty > much "all" in the oddities in smart > people. but the hardest part is not > picking up after them! it's existing > with them! since childhood i've been > told i'm not applying myself. that > came from my family members. because i > did not function on their expected > level i was frequetly chastised by them. > watch , learn and live! yeah i > have crappy speling and cannot find the darn > "caps lock" fer the life of me > but i can rebuild a motorcycle in my livingroom > and do a spridget engine on > my desk. (did both at difrent times in my life. > now all deligated to the > shop......gives way to harmony in the home....see i > learned something!) > :) > > chuck. > off to small engine repair world for fun and profit! > and why did > my college pschyc. prof always smell like pot.........? nawwww , he > could > not have ...he's the instructor...right? > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Jim Johnson > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, > June 7, 2011 6:25:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc > > I was > horrified when I finally got back to college (at 27 years old) that my > professors did not even have one teaching class, nor was it required. Hummm > maybe that is why I had difficulty figuring out what they were trying to > explain ; ) I wish all students were notified of that when they started > college so they don't beat up on themselves when they drop out. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jun 7 06:47:35 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:47:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: References: <722744.55854.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <850A73F6-3797-4C56-82CC-0D652ADFBC31@snet.net> No, I have an NOS Les Leston wheel on my pink car. Jay On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > OMG Jay yes that is "freaking beautiful". What project was that? Do you have the same one on your "pink" beauty? > Lin > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Jay wrote: > What a coincidence. That one is just like this one. > > http://tinyurl.com/4x45cqr From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 06:52:56 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:52:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone out there use clear fuel line like on Norton Cycles? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was figuring they would dry up pretty quickly so I think I may just use it initially then put in the rubber line. Thanks Lin On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Tom wrote: > That was my experience with clear fuel line, too. After a season it > becomes hard and doesn't seal well anymore. I used it because I wanted to > see what was happening, too. But it didn't really work well, so I have one > of those clear fuel filters in my gas line now. > > - tom > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM, derf wrote: > >> My Honda bikes have clear filters, but the lines are not clear. My >> weed eaters have clear lines but Ethanol and/or two stroke oil seems >> to eat them up quick and make them brittle. >> I suppose success would depend on what the line is made of, some >> materials being resistant to fuel and alcohol. You may check a local >> marine supply or West Marine. They have good quality fuel line >> available and if it USCG rated for boats I would think it should be OK >> for cars. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: >> http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah3000me at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 06:56:27 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:56:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: <20110607010130.6692A187651@autox.team.net> References: <20110607010130.6692A187651@autox.team.net> Message-ID: OHF@#! I drilled already. Lin On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Bob Spruck wrote: > Lin: > > That bulkhead has a vertical panel on the outside (in front of the > diff) and an angled panel on the inside. Look at your Victoria > British or Moss diagrams. It is there to provide two cross-chassis > surfaces to anchor the rear of the floors to the unibody - adds much > strength that way. So there is a wedge shaped cavity between them. If > you do use Billy's suggestion of riv-nuts, don't drill through both > panels (unless it is too late). > > I would suggest mounting the fuel pump on the curved part of the > trunk floor behind the diff, off to the passenger side. There is only > one thickness of sheet metal there. I have had a Facet on my '67 > vintage racer mounted there since 1995 on the inside of the boot next > to the fuel cell, but on my '72 street car I mounted one in the same > place but on the outside, mostly to accommodate the external fuel > lines from the external fuel tank on the street car and the internal > fuel lines from the fuel cell in the boot on the race car. I would > recommend using rubber spacers to minimize the vibration and noise > and a separate little ground wire. > > Regarding your question about a fuel cell - they are expensive, and > you lose all storage space in the boot, including that for the spare > tire. You don't want to mount it on the underside of the boot floor > like the stock arrangement since they are generally thicker than the > tank and have a top filler. Don't cut a hole in the boot floor to > mount it half in and half out - the sheetmetal tends to crack with > the weight and vibration. Plus you would have to get the output fuel > line from inside the boot to outside the boot so it goes under the > car to the front. On my racer, I have braided SS line that runs > through the steel bulkhead and along the passenger side of the > transmission tunnel through the right hand steering shaft hole in the > foot box and across the steering rack to the fuel block and pressure > regulator on the driver side inner fender. > > Also , if you are going hill climbing or racing, check with the group > you intend to race with to see if they require a fuel cell. All > vintage race groups I have raced with for the past 20 years do, but > if you go with NASA, EMRA, Hooked-On-Driving, etc. you may not. Are > you going to really race or just tour around the track, do track > days, or light schools? > > Enough for now. I think that covers it. > > Bob > > > > BZ said: > Look for Pop Rivet Nuts. The 1/4 inch size is plenty strong > But use steel Riv-Nuts rather than aluminum, and use a good installation > tool...at least the ratcheting one. I don't care for the regular HF types > that look like pop riveters. They don't squeeze the steel Riv-Nuts enough > to > keep them tight. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 07:08:17 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:08:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wow check out this NOS Sprite steering wheel starting bid US $2, 454.45. In-Reply-To: <850A73F6-3797-4C56-82CC-0D652ADFBC31@snet.net> References: <722744.55854.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <850A73F6-3797-4C56-82CC-0D652ADFBC31@snet.net> Message-ID: OMG, Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > No, I have an NOS Les Leston wheel on my pink car. > > Jay > > On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > OMG Jay yes that is "freaking beautiful". What project was that? Do you > have the same one on your "pink" beauty? > Lin > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Jay < > jfishbein at snet.net> wrote: > >> What a coincidence. That one is just like this one. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/4x45cqr From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 07:10:07 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:10:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Too bad you didn't buy Frank's last project The Budget Midget. I wish one of us bought it as I believe Frank wanted to take it there or am I mistaken? Lin On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Both of my Sprites are long, long, loooonnnggg time restoration projects > that > are not drivable yet. So yesterday I bought a '79 Midget to drive to the > 50th > party. Roll-up windows and a funny looking lump under the bonnet Who'd a > thunk it. > > Rick > '59 & '61 Sprites and now a strange '79 Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 07:50:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:50:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. In-Reply-To: <895181428-1307382011-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-41138883-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> References: <31372.f177cac.3b1e1e7d@aol.com> <895181428-1307382011-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-41138883-@b11.c12.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Steve I was not a good student of Franks but how do you read your pumpkin to see what rear you have? Frank said mine was better than stock but didn't see exactly where he read the numbers. Should have asked Frank when I was prepping Holy Sprites rear : ) Jim don't worry I'll be scared of the $$$$ lost and slowly be back with my tail between my legs ; ) Lin On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:39 PM, wrote: > Linda, > > You are on a slippery slope with the hill climb!! Years ago I started > autocrossing my bugeye then "decided" to try the hillclimb in Ellenville NY. > I won in my class and I was bitten, much time and effort went to convert the > car to a real racer. > > BTW I "cheated" in the hill climb. I went out and bought a 5.36 rear. It is > amazing what gears can do if you do not need a high top speed. > > Good luck and watch the bank account. > > Steve > Sent from me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Grunthaner > Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:57:38 > To: > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. > > List, > OK you all have good reasons for me not getting a "fuel cell" right now but > if I decide to run my little Sprite on the track this is something I will > have to plan for. Plus I'll have to save up for very expensive transition. > I > am going to do the Hill Climb in Pa hopefully next year as the guys at the > tent at Carlisle convinced me it will be loads of fun. For the Hill Climb > you only need a 5 point seat belt and a Snell Approved Helmet. They said if > I join SCCA there are no fees for the climb. I may just volunteer for the > pits next year to see what I want to do for my climb the following year. It > would be nice if some of you guys come along as I think it would be loads > of > fun. You can take any car ; ) I'll send the link when I get home. > Lin > PS My fuel tank is fine on Pinky but the UK guys mentioned this NOS tank on > ebay as being super hard to find: * > http://tinyurl.com/4xplbvz > Sure would be nice to win ; ) > * > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 AM, wrote: > > > Because you have no space in the trunk, not even for a spare wheel and > > tyre. > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 06/06/2011 11:44:50 GMT Daylight Time, > > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > > > List, > > Who on the list is using a fuel cell gas tank in their Spridget and why > > aren't more people using them, besides cost? I was thinking about it so > the > > tank is in the trunk and not so low like the standard tank. > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jun 7 07:50:58 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 06:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: References: <20110607010130.6692A187651@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <516828.90832.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Is that something you once heard your dentist say? jay ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Bob Spruck Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 8:56:27 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. OHF@#! I drilled already. Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 07:54:52 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:54:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] British Car Week In-Reply-To: References: <19961.237e38a6.3b1983dd@aol.com> Message-ID: Well I was working on my British car does that count : ) Lin On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:55 AM, brian S wrote: > I didn't get to take my Bugeye out this week either. > When I pulled my head after blowing a head gasket earlier this year, (1098) > I discovered that there was a line etched between cylinders #1 and #2. > I can't skim hte head anymore since it's been cut about .100 already. > machine shop guy says not that big a deal as he can weld the spot and then > skim that part flat. I do have another 1098 head, but the one one the car > has > already > been ported. Decisions, decisions. > After popping the head gasket off, I discover that there is pitting on the > block > between also. ugggggh. looks like I have to pull the engine. > Was hoping to be able to put that off til this winter. > > Choices I have to make: > 1. Rebuild present 2 inch main 1098, I have a new standard crank and a set > of > .030 over > pistons. (although it seems one piston is missing an oil ring) gonna be fun > to > find that. > > 2. rebuild a small main 1098 (that smokes) that I have sitting around. > would > make for a possible > 1 day pull and swap. > > 3. bite the financial bullet and get a 1275, probably have to get it > rebuilt. > > Probably could get away with $1500-2000 to do the 1098s, but > looking at $3-4000 if it needs pistons, (likely) for the 1275. > plus a new clutch setup, that I really didn't want to spend just now. > > Son graduating High school and needs a laptop for college, Mustang needs > tires, wife's birthday comin up.... > > > decisions, decisions, decisions > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank C. > > > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:25 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly hope you are all enjoying your British cars this week. > It's > > > almost over, so if you haven't already been, get out and drive yours > more > > > than usual. This weekend I'll be on a two-day 750 mile Mini Lap of > Virginia > > > for classic Mini's only. > > > > > > http://www.britishcarweek.org/ > > > > > > Howard Collins > > > Virginia Beach, VA. > > > '60 AH Bugeye Sprite > > > '68 Austin Mini > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 08:04:07 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:04:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter electrical question In-Reply-To: <1ABA8C9A-A81B-4D8E-A433-472D86AE910C@gmail.com> References: <1ABA8C9A-A81B-4D8E-A433-472D86AE910C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin I had the same exact problem with Pinky last year after pulling the hood off to get the battery out & have it tested at the Interstate dealer I almost bought that little switch, but bought a new started instead, worked like a charm. Funny thing is I find myself reading old posts from Frank to get him back in my mind as well as heart : ( and the other day I read that he would prop the hood wide open with a rope or something so the need for removing the hood is avoided. It sure was a PITA aligning that hood single handed (I used an old plastic trash can). Frank's words will live for ever here. I do hope there is a backup of the archives. Lin On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > ALL, > > I'm working on a Midget that would start when cold, but will not turn over > very fast when warm or hot. I know the problem was the starter but would > like to know why? Why will a warm or hot starter not work as well as a cold > starter? More resistance? Closer clearances? > > At first I thought it was the battery, but I put in a new (fully charged) > battery while the starter was hot and it would not spin fast enough to > start. I let it cool down and it spun quickly again. I took the starter > out while it was hot and could barely get it to spin on the bench.... After > it cooled, it spun freely. > > I've changed the starter and all is well. > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 08:09:18 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:09:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. In-Reply-To: <516828.90832.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <20110607010130.6692A187651@autox.team.net> <516828.90832.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hahaha Jay. Actually I feel awful that I drilled through it now but I thought I read messages to drill. And I can't see sheet metal screws holding it in, I'm not going to get sick over this I am bolting it on with some 1/2" rubber mount I am making from some surplus gymnasium material I have from our school (I love scavenging for stuff for projects). I'll keep you all posted. If I ever do a rotisserie on Pinky and go stock I'll weld up those holes. Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jay wrote: > Is that something you once heard your dentist say? > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Bob Spruck > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 8:56:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Double wall bulk head in Sprite. > > OHF@#! > I drilled already. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 08:10:13 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:10:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] hillclimbing a spridget In-Reply-To: <968493.97726.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <968493.97726.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Maybe I should just volunteer in the pits : ) Lin On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:28 PM, charles christ wrote: > charlie you live closer to linda. tell her how much fun it is.....and > remind > her that this weekend is spring weatherly hillclimb in weatherly pa.! we > will > be corner working due to a funding issue. > > > chuck. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jun 7 08:31:48 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:31:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget for a condo owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51169E51-2D5C-4637-84E4-DD0DD66509BE@comcast.net> If you can't do work on a car then a 2011 Honda. Lester On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Allen Hefner wrote: > Let's get back on topic. > > I am a condo owner. As such, I have no garage and am not allowed to do > "major car repairs" (whatever that means) in the parking lot of the condos. > I am also dirt poor, but have a lot of OSHIT friends. > > My stable is listed below my sig. It is currently NOT an LBC, consisting of > one, lone Chebbie. > > Please start a discussion of the best choice of LBC for me. In reality, I > believe it to be an older Miata, but that's another off-topic topic! > Allen Hefner > Norristown, PA > > *Current:* > 2006 Chebbie > *Former:* > 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III > 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS > 1964 VW Type I > 1967 VW Type II > 1967 Rover 2000TC > 1977 MG Midget > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jun 7 08:34:09 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] discussions that are potentially harmful in nature In-Reply-To: <766189.27736.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <766189.27736.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <729ADBFF-2B5D-4340-BE1F-CE9F9226DEB4@comcast.net> That was said to me at the shooting range at the naval base Kodiak, AK in 1969.. actually with a tone of disbelief.. Lester On Jun 2, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Jay wrote: > I will quote something said to me in a smoky room in March of 1968: "Right on". > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Fisher, Ed" > > Come on folks, this isn't really in the spirit of what we all > just felt just a short while ago when we were one in our grief. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jun 7 08:35:59 2011 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:35:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The E-Type's Golden Anniversary In-Reply-To: <21789766.1307423103652.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <21789766.1307423103652.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <74DD1A27-C79E-4472-AE7A-78A6FC795245@comcast.net> Mine still needs some work... http://www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=1E31929 Lester On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:05 AM, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13644044 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy at comcast.net From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jun 7 08:44:59 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Poor Eduction, was Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <312077018.3316.1307457645996.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1145165608.3380.1307457899645.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I was pretty much the same way. I was reading the newspaper before I started kindergarten, helped my mother with her nursing exams when I was 9, and completely lost interest in school when a 6th grade teacher took one of my brother's WWII novels away from me and ordered me to read something more appropriate to my grade level. Our family gatherings consisted of medical conversations about the critical patient of the day, as both my aunts were also RNs,and my grandmother had also been a nurse. I participated in the discussions and was expected to become an MD. Unfortunately, never having had a math teacher, the subject went completely over my head. In high school, things only got worse. I signed up for both Russian and German, and was told I could not take both as I would get confused. I attempted to explain that I was certain that would not happen, as I already spoke German, and had since a small child. As a sophomore, I was allowed to take 1st year German and, after 2 weeks, was transferred to the 3rd year class, which upset my counselor immensely. I had already flunked algebra and biology, but was allowed to take anatomy and physiology on the recommendation of my biology instructor. I passed it with a B+, although by this time I was skipping more classes than I attended. I quit attending completely after getting in a royal dustup with a history teacher who was teaching a completely insane version of Native American history, particularly the Custer battle. He told me I didn't know what I was talking about, and that my great grandfather couldn't have been there, as there were no survivors. I replied that there were over 900 survivors, and my great grandfather happened to be one, and walked out, never to return. Stand by for Chapter 2 Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles christ" To: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 4:49:53 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc this is all very true. in my family i'm the "black sheep" getting dirty working on cars. family members included college math professor , high school teacher with three degrees , elementry library head for a large (multiple schools) district , 4th grade nstructor , high school chemestry instructor and a few engineers(not the rail road type!). From lbc77mg at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 08:53:18 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:53:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: <0D3131BA-B980-4867-9988-DBDCA701BF15@chartermi.net> References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> <4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net> <0D3131BA-B980-4867-9988-DBDCA701BF15@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Does anyone remember Muntz Engineering? The Muntz TV company supposedly did this. You remove parts until the dang thing won't work anymore, then put the last part back on. That should work for smog stuff. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Well the lump is a Triumph engine, but unfortunately not de-smogged. Has > air > injection, catalytic converter, all kinds of valves, and about 47 miles of > vacuum lines. Poop. :-( > > Rick > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > > > I think the lump is a de-smogged Triumph engine, but I haven't raised the > bonnet since I got it home. Grandbaby, graduation party for the neighbor's > kid, and the usual Saturday chores have kept me busy today. :-) > > > > Rick > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 08:56:11 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:56:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sometimes it seems as though prejudice/racism against the majority is acceptable to some. Sometimes if you point out such things you will be called a racist. If you do try to judge by content of character you will find there are good and bad in every race. It is hard to not be prejudiced against any race if you only get exposed to those that have poor character. The KKK is a racist group(although it didn't start out that way). The NAACP is a racist group. Both discriminate. One has a reputation for hatred and violence. But, does that make the other OK? What about white only exclusive country clubs? Racism has ignorance at its root, but is promoted by society. There are definitely double standards when it comes to racism in this day and age. Excellent racial satire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ns-kXeQCMk From kk7ss at frontier.com Tue Jun 7 09:14:48 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Poor Eduction, was Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <1145165608.3380.1307457899645.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <592542805.70785.1307459688735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Lahst yere eye kudent spel injinear... now I ar wun. ! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 7 09:21:01 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:21:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rallye to Reno In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEE41DD.5030207@sbcglobal.net> MG folks heading to MG2011 in Lake Tahoe are in the process of the "Rallye to Reno," by driving US 50 across the country from Ocean City, MD all the way to Tahoe and then on to San Francisco. The group of about 80 cars came to St. Louis yesterday (Monday) and our St. Louis MG Club hosted them at an Irish pub near their hotel. They are driving to Kansas City today and will have a BBQ tonight at Victoria British. They will be in Dodge City, KS on Wednesday. Jim, you should hook up with this group! What a great bunch of people! A few Midgets are making the journey, along with several T Series, MGAs and MGBs. Many of the A and B owners also have Spridgets. If you're anywhere along the route, try to catch up with them and maybe ride along for awhile. A nicer bunch of folks won't be found anywhere. http://rallyetoreno.com/ From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jun 7 09:26:11 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 08:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: References: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Guys, I would appreciate it you would take this discussion somewhere where it is appropriate. Thanks in advance, jay From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jun 7 09:28:14 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Poor Eduction, was Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <351503129.4208.1307460476058.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1178454586.4213.1307460494630.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> My poor mother could never understand why I got As in the classes I liked, and never went to the others. Nor could she figure out why I would rather spend my time getting my MGTD to go faster, rather than do "normal" things, such as shopping for prom dresses with her. Since I had no intention of going to thee prom, I saw no point in shopping for dresses. I took the MG and moved back to the ranch shortly after that and got a job singing in a country band. I was on the way to work when I had my delightful wreck on the Old Lewiston Grade and totaled the MG. Mother was relieved that I was not more seriously injured, and extremely happy that I no longer had the sports car. When I replaced it with a Big Healey out of a portion of my settlement, she gave up and insisted that I go to NY to my father's family to gain some culture. My idea of culture involved training the family's race horses. In order to quiet my mother's rantings, I went into the Navy, which waived their HS diploma requirement when I passed all their tests with extraordinarily high scores. In A school, I was taught math by a CWO4 who actually knew how to teach. I can now do advanced trigonometry, but can barely balance my checkbook. The navy sent me to college, still without a HS diploma, and I graduated with honors with degrees in Criminology and Soviet Studies. My IQ has been measured at 165, but I am a total misfit at daily living. Kate From pchast at francomm.com Tue Jun 7 09:36:50 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:36:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Poor Eduction, was Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <592542805.70785.1307459688735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <592542805.70785.1307459688735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: mi 2 On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:14:48 -0400, Dave KK7SS wrote: > > Lahst yere eye kudent spel injinear... now I ar wun. ! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > DN06ig Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 > '65 Sprite - in process > '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:40:16 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:40:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Your opinion is noted. I'll strive to stay on topic or at least on topics of which you approve. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Jay wrote: > Guys, > > I would appreciate it you would take this discussion somewhere where it is > appropriate. > > Thanks in advance, > > jay From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 7 09:42:58 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:42:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 49, Issue 31 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DEE4702.40805@sbcglobal.net> Rick, These are not hard to de-smog. Just removing the belt from the air pump will work if you live someplace that requires all the pollution controls to be in place. I also have a '79 that I will be driving to Midget 50. I long ago removed the pump, EGR, piping, etc. and hollowed out the cat. Cleans up the engine bay nicely. The vacuum hose routing is for retard at idle only and can be safely discarded. Set timing at 10-12 BTDC instead of the marked 4 ATDC. This engine gets a bad rep because it can drop thrust washers into the pan and ruin the crank if not caught right away. Easy to check and fix with engine in car. Unlike the A-series, this engine has a long stroke and does not rev high, but has tons of torque, which makes it a great driver. Lee On 6/7/2011 9:56 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > >> > Well the lump is a Triumph engine, but unfortunately not de-smogged. Has >> > air >> > injection, catalytic converter, all kinds of valves, and about 47 miles of >> > vacuum lines. Poop.:-( >> > >> > Rick >> > >> > Sent from my iPad From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jun 7 09:53:14 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: <871850100.4581.1307461557841.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <346602639.4696.1307461994915.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> First, I agree that race has no bearing on the quality of a person. Private clubs have the right to limit membership in any way they choose. What about the American Legion and VFW? They discriminate against all non veterans. Should they be closed down? Westminster Kennel Club discriminates against all dogs that are not finished champions. Should they be forced to admit all dogs with the price of an entry? What aggravates me is forced discrimination. We have Black only universities, Black Entertainment Television, Miss Black America, and so on. An all White university would be shut down in a heartbeat. The Equal Opportunities Act was sorely needed at its inception, but now only promotes mediocrity, as a less qualified minority will be given the opportunity before a fully qualified white. Could this be one of the reasons that American industry is in trouble? Kate The KKK is a racist group(although it didn't start out that way). The NAACP is a racist group. Both discriminate. One has a reputation for hatred and violence. But, does that make the other OK? What about white only exclusive country clubs? Racism has ignorance at its root, but is promoted by society. There are definitely double standards when it comes to racism in this day and age. Excellent racial satire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ns-kXeQCMk Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jun 7 10:14:33 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:14:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rallye to Reno In-Reply-To: <4DEE41DD.5030207@sbcglobal.net> References: <4DEE41DD.5030207@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9c4a79$ce65sh@email.mtu.edu> And, lister John Deikis is driving his MG TD from Michigan with a freshly rebuilt engine with the group. Those folks are driving through 100 degree heat in open cars with no A/C. The best thing Jim could do for them is order up some cool dry air and no storms or rain! At 11:21 AM 6/7/2011, Lee Fox wrote: >MG folks heading to MG2011 in Lake Tahoe are in the process of the >"Rallye to Reno," by driving US 50 across the country from Ocean >City, MD all the way to Tahoe and then on to San Francisco. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 10:48:27 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:48:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: References: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <-1433884943755106609@unknownmsgid> >> I would appreciate it you would take this discussion somewhere where it is >> appropriate. >> >> Thanks in advance, Bloody optimists! David L From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jun 7 10:50:38 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:50:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 49, Issue 31 In-Reply-To: <4DEE4702.40805@sbcglobal.net> References: <4DEE4702.40805@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I live in Michigan - no smog checks or safety inspections. All they care about is current tags and insurance. Sent from my iPad On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Lee Fox wrote: > Rick, > > These are not hard to de-smog. Just removing the belt from the air pump will work if you live someplace that requires all the pollution controls to be in place. > > I also have a '79 that I will be driving to Midget 50. I long ago removed the pump, EGR, piping, etc. and hollowed out the cat. Cleans up the engine bay nicely. The vacuum hose routing is for retard at idle only and can be safely discarded. Set timing at 10-12 BTDC instead of the marked 4 ATDC. > > This engine gets a bad rep because it can drop thrust washers into the pan and ruin the crank if not caught right away. Easy to check and fix with engine in car. Unlike the A-series, this engine has a long stroke and does not rev high, but has tons of torque, which makes it a great driver. > > Lee > > On 6/7/2011 9:56 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: >> >>> > Well the lump is a Triumph engine, but unfortunately not de-smogged. Has >>> > air >>> > injection, catalytic converter, all kinds of valves, and about 47 miles of >>> > vacuum lines. Poop.:-( >>> > >>> > Rick >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 10:53:37 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:53:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rallye to Reno In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$ce65sh@email.mtu.edu> References: <4DEE41DD.5030207@sbcglobal.net> <9c4a79$ce65sh@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Wish I could do that, Tim. When I retired, they took the "weather machine" away from me ;-) I have already been in touch with Bruce Woodson and John Deikis. I pointed them to their hotel accommodations here in Dodge City and will be meeting with them tomorrow evening when they arrive. They can be happy that they aren't making the Dodge City leg today. Southwest Kansas will see a high around 105F along with 30 to 40 mph, dry southwest winds. Good ol' southwest Kansas summer weather!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Tim Collins wrote: > And, lister John Deikis is driving his MG TD from Michigan with a freshly > rebuilt engine with the group. Those folks are driving through 100 degree > heat in open cars with no A/C. The best thing Jim could do for them is order > up some cool dry air and no storms or rain! > > > At 11:21 AM 6/7/2011, Lee Fox wrote: > >> MG folks heading to MG2011 in Lake Tahoe are in the process of the "Rallye >> to Reno," by driving US 50 across the country from Ocean City, MD all the >> way to Tahoe and then on to San Francisco. >> > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/_______________________________________________ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jun 7 11:14:22 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold Message-ID: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Can anyone shed some light on the Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold for 1 3/4" SU Carbs? jay fishbein wallingford, ct From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:21:17 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:21:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: <346602639.4696.1307461994915.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <871850100.4581.1307461557841.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <346602639.4696.1307461994915.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: How quickly we forget. Can anyone remember a single post from Frank that dealt with a political subject (I'm not counting his feelings about inferior quality parts and tools)? How about one in which he referred to another list member with pejorative, personal attacks? If you have an issue with another list member that cannot be expressed respectfully please keep it off list. I know that in the past I have not always managed to do so, but I'm trying. Because this list is not moderated we must moderate ourselves (kinda like expecting the banking industry to regulate itself....) Remember this is a forum for Spridgets but most of us don't mind a thread about Miatas, motorcycles, cats, or even guns ( though that may be pushing the envelope a bit .) Tequila is also an appropriate subject. As to all the posts about who or whose candidate is the bigger A-hole, Fascist, Socialist, or Racist, fool, crook.... How about we agree to keep fewer that 1% of our own posts to those subjects? Again you be the moderator of your own posts. I'm wearing out my delete key! Hal From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:24:48 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:24:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: References: <871850100.4581.1307461557841.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <346602639.4696.1307461994915.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Oh, yeah, To all the #$$%#@^^&*(()???s that don't like my own political viewpoint, "See you at the polls." Hal On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > How quickly we forget. Can anyone remember a single post from Frank that > dealt with a political subject (I'm not counting his feelings about inferior > quality parts and tools)? How about one in which he referred to another > list member with pejorative, personal attacks? If you have an issue with > another list member that cannot be expressed respectfully please keep it off > list. I know that in the past I have not always managed to do so, but I'm > trying. > Because this list is not moderated we must moderate ourselves (kinda like > expecting the banking industry to regulate itself....) Remember this is a > forum for Spridgets but most of us don't mind a thread about Miatas, > motorcycles, cats, or even guns ( though that may be pushing the envelope a > bit .) Tequila is also an appropriate subject. > As to all the posts about who or whose candidate is the bigger A-hole, > Fascist, Socialist, or Racist, fool, crook.... How about we agree to keep > fewer that 1% of our own posts to those subjects? Again you be the > moderator of your own posts. > > I'm wearing out my delete key! > > Hal From lists at dinospider.com Tue Jun 7 11:32:04 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:32:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rallye to Reno In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$ce65sh@email.mtu.edu> References: <4DEE41DD.5030207@sbcglobal.net> <9c4a79$ce65sh@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4DEE6094.1010607@dinospider.com> On 06/07/2011 09:14 AM, Tim Collins wrote: > And, lister John Deikis is driving his MG TD from Michigan with a > freshly rebuilt engine with the group. Those folks are driving through > 100 degree heat in open cars with no A/C. Sounds like paradise to me, I drive in those temps often, top down and NO A/C From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:33:49 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:33:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold In-Reply-To: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jay, All I can say is that Vizard mentions it as being highly effective. Maybe Dave Anton can pass on some info? What about that Brit that has inside knowledge of performance books for the Sprite and Midget? Hal From lists at dinospider.com Tue Jun 7 11:35:06 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:35:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DEE614A.50604@dinospider.com> Darn, I was kind of enjoying this :) don't worry, only kind of. I thought we were all such good friends here, that it was interesting to see that there might 2 people on this list who are slightly less friendly with each other. Its just for show anyway, we all know they are good friends in real life :) :) :) mike On 06/07/2011 08:26 AM, Jay wrote: > Guys, > > I would appreciate it you would take this discussion somewhere where it is > appropriate. > > > Thanks in advance, > > jay From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jun 7 11:37:00 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold In-Reply-To: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <82637.84245.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Correction. "for one 1 3/4" SU Carb" singular jay ________________________________ From: Jay Can anyone shed some light on the Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold for 1 3/4" SU Carbs? jay From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jun 7 11:41:21 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold In-Reply-To: References: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <667906.74426.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Hal. jay ________________________________ From: Hal Faulkner To: Jay Cc: Spridgets Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 1:33:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold Jay, All I can say is that Vizard mentions it as being highly effective. Maybe Dave Anton can pass on some info? What about that Brit that has inside knowledge of performance books for the Sprite and Midget? Hal From haynes386 at netzero.net Tue Jun 7 11:40:46 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:40:46 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. Message-ID: <20110607.114046.27533.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Lin- on the outside of the pumpkin-passengers side stamped into the pumpkin flange (not the rear end) there should be a set of numbers such as 9/38 (4.22). As long as no one has changed to ring and pinion, then this applies. However, some of us are (or have been) able to locate ratios like 5.38:1 , 4.88:1, 3.9:1 or even 3.7:1 and put them into the pumpkins. The best way to verify is to mark the inside of a tire, turn the driveshaft and count the tire rotations. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:50:25 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: an5.sprite at gmail.com Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, spridgets Steve I was not a good student of Franks but how do you read your pumpkin to see what rear you have? Frank said mine was better than stock but didn't see exactly where he read the numbers. Should have asked Frank when I was prepping Holy Sprites rear : ) Jim don't worry I'll be scared of the $$$$ lost and slowly be back with my tail between my legs ; ) Lin ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dee62e59ce262f8353st05duc From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:50:40 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:50:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold In-Reply-To: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Single HIF6 is my favourite setup for 1275. Last one I had used a Titan intake but it looked like the others, with a hot water tube heater thingy that I blocked off. Minispares has them now: http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=pb&pid=35083 The Mini carb angle might not be suitable for Spridget applications (bonnet clearance) but they do make them for Spridgets. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jay wrote: > Can anyone shed some light on the Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold for 1 3/4" > SU Carbs? > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jun 7 11:51:18 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Rallye to Reno In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$ce65sh@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <108026234.6658.1307469078200.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Your weather request has been duly noted and taken care of. Also, if either of you plan to return home via I-80, I can provide free lodging and meals at the Red Lion Hotel. Please contact me off list for my new phone number. I just changed it last week. I promise no political conversation during your visit, should you plan to stop. Kate Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rallye to Reno And, lister John Deikis is driving his MG TD from Michigan with a freshly rebuilt engine with the group. Those folks are driving through 100 degree heat in open cars with no A/C. The best thing Jim could do for them is order up some cool dry air and no storms or rain! At 11:21 AM 6/7/2011, Lee Fox wrote: >MG folks heading to MG2011 in Lake Tahoe are in the process of the >"Rallye to Reno," by driving US 50 across the country from Ocean >City, MD all the way to Tahoe and then on to San Francisco. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kgb at frontiernet.net From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:58:24 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:58:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: References: <871850100.4581.1307461557841.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <346602639.4696.1307461994915.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: That is the problem: Some off topic content is OK, but some isn't. I don't even use the delete key. I scan subjects and hit "mark as read". I'm starting to have my own little archive. If someone is over the top jackass I add their email addy to the filter list and walla! no more noise from them. The only thing worse than off topic crap is whiny complaining about off topic crap. You mean this forum isn't for people who like to watch a Tequila drunk racist Frank Zappa shoot cats from his Miata on the way to vote for Obama? Is there a tinyurl for that? From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 12:01:35 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:01:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: References: <871850100.4581.1307461557841.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <346602639.4696.1307461994915.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: C'mon, Derf, We all know that Zappa--unlike Elvis-- is dead! Hal You mean this forum isn't for people who like to watch a Tequila drunk > racist Frank Zappa shoot cats from his Miata on the way to vote for > Obama? From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 12:03:12 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:03:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold In-Reply-To: References: <159224.98661.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: BTW, it should take either 1.5" or 1.75" carbs. You can source cheap HIF6s from old Volvos, but they had pairs and only one of the pair has the fuel enrichment circuit (choke). I think I settled on a BDD needle in the HIF6 (or 44) and I can't remember which spring. From edwd at ti.com Tue Jun 7 12:26:13 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:26:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WTH? Message-ID: Wow, from politics to racism, I'm glad that y'all have made a switch to a less incendiary topic! OK gang, here is a racism story, from my personal perspective. I bought my first house in Plano, Texas (suburb of Dallas) in 1986, after a short time, a black family moved directly across the street from me. Before I knew it, in my mind came the thought, "Oh no, there goes my property value". What the hell was that I remember thinking. Sure, I was raised by a long lineage of racists (as well as alcoholics) but I thought that I had overcome all of that with my enlightened thinking. After all, I was a flower child of the 70's with peace and love and togetherness the mantra of our age. I was angry that this racist thought about my new neighbor had crept into my head. I was ashamed too. Otis, his wife, and their 3 kids turned out to be a delight. The care that he gave his home, yard, cars, etc was meticulous and first rate. His kids were respectful, fun-loving, and had learned the same maintenance and discipline that their father had modeled for them. They turned out to be the best neighbors that I could have ever hoped to have. How much more shame I felt that my upbringing had followed me into adulthood. One day Otis met me outside and said that he was going to deploy in what I later learned was to be Desert Storm, he was an active reservist, and asked if I would be willing to watch out for his family. I, of course, said that I would be honored; after all, he was going to rout out a dictator while I worked my sissy job at Texas Instruments. It was the least that I could do. It was a long year, I had to do very little for his family, replace a water heater, fix a couple of cars, no big deal. They were a pretty self-sufficient group. When Otis returned home, he and I met in the middle of our street and embraced. He thanked me profusely for the help and care that I had given to his family during his absence. I said, "Otis, there is something that I need to tell you". We sat on the curb to talk. I confessed the thought that had infiltrated my mind when they moved in, and the shame that I felt then and that I still felt to that moment. We both had tears spilling out. Otis put his big ol' arm around my slumped shoulders and said, "It's OK Ed, we were taught the same BS as kids". So, here was a man taught to not trust white folks that asked me to watch over his family while he was gone. How much I learned that day. There was also a white kid taught not to trust blacks that would have done anything for that wonderful family, and I do mean anything. How much I learned, and how much I never want to forget. Politics, racism, economic news, religion, you name it can eat you up if you listen to the sensationalism or let bad experiences rule you. Sure, we fought with the blacks when I was in junior high school, it was a tumultuous time, but I tried to grow out of it. I learned with Otis that I still had a ways to go. Don't we all? Give all of this vitriol a break, at least with this group of Spridget folks. This is not the community for that sort of thing is it? I have so often told others about y'all and your helping of each other and sometimes total strangers. Please let us keep that spirit alive. After all, there are plenty of blogospheres, chat groups, like-minded people of EVERY persuasion out there. Seek them out if you want validation, argument, or whatever. Let us help each other to be better. That is what one of our departed modeled for us, so well. Ed Dallas, Tx From pdx.pete at frontier.com Tue Jun 7 12:40:02 2011 From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Racsim: Skewed perspective? Message-ID: <1932638140.76246.1307472002020.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Internecine tendencies notwithstanding, all this recent list business about "racism" could be interesting to any non-participants who might be watching. I would think the list's demographic is most likely Caucasion, male-dominated and middle-aged (40-60 or 45-65, depending on the source cited.) In order to remain PC, there will be no further mention of "old age" or "the elderly. So, we've got a group of folks whose ranks are gonna dwindle by attrition. If we could then superimpose the Census Bureau's projection that by 2042 Caucasions in the US will constitute a minority (albeit the largest minority), I'm thinking there could, if left unmoderated, be an upsurge in vitriolic posts in groups such as this. "Rage, rage against the dying of the light". Now, can't we all be friends? No. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jun 7 13:00:20 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] WTH? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <905432.51776.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Ed, Great story and great message. Thanks for sharing. jay ________________________________ From: "Fisher, Ed" To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 2:26:13 PM Subject: [Spridgets] WTH? Wow, from politics to racism, I'm glad that y'all have made a switch to a less incendiary topic! OK gang, here is a racism story, from my personal perspective. I bought my first house in Plano, Texas (suburb of Dallas) in 1986, after a short time, a black family moved directly across the street from me. Before I knew it, in my mind came the thought, "Oh no, there goes my property value". What the hell was that I remember thinking. Sure, I was raised by a long lineage of racists (as well as alcoholics) but I thought that I had overcome all of that with my enlightened thinking. After all, I was a flower child of the 70's with peace and love and togetherness the mantra of our age. I was angry that this racist thought about my new neighbor had crept into my head. I was ashamed too. Otis, his wife, and their 3 kids turned out to be a delight. The care that he gave his home, yard, cars, etc was meticulous and first rate. His kids were respectful, fun-loving, and had learned the same maintenance and discipline that their father had modeled for them. They turned out to be the best neighbors that I could have ever hoped to have. How much more shame I felt that my upbringing had followed me into adulthood. One day Otis met me outside and said that he was going to deploy in what I later learned was to be Desert Storm, he was an active reservist, and asked if I would be willing to watch out for his family. I, of course, said that I would be honored; after all, he was going to rout out a dictator while I worked my sissy job at Texas Instruments. It was the least that I could do. It was a long year, I had to do very little for his family, replace a water heater, fix a couple of cars, no big deal. They were a pretty self-sufficient group. When Otis returned home, he and I met in the middle of our street and embraced. He thanked me profusely for the help and care that I had given to his family during his absence. I said, "Otis, there is something that I need to tell you". We sat on the curb to talk. I confessed the thought that had infiltrated my mind when they moved in, and the shame that I felt then and that I still felt to that moment. We both had tears spilling out. Otis put his big ol' arm around my slumped shoulders and said, "It's OK Ed, we were taught the same BS as kids". So, here was a man taught to not trust white folks that asked me to watch over his family while he was gone. How much I learned that day. There was also a white kid taught not to trust blacks that would have done anything for that wonderful family, and I do mean anything. How much I learned, and how much I never want to forget. Politics, racism, economic news, religion, you name it can eat you up if you listen to the sensationalism or let bad experiences rule you. Sure, we fought with the blacks when I was in junior high school, it was a tumultuous time, but I tried to grow out of it. I learned with Otis that I still had a ways to go. Don't we all? Give all of this vitriol a break, at least with this group of Spridget folks. This is not the community for that sort of thing is it? I have so often told others about y'all and your helping of each other and sometimes total strangers. Please let us keep that spirit alive. After all, there are plenty of blogospheres, chat groups, like-minded people of EVERY persuasion out there. Seek them out if you want validation, argument, or whatever. Let us help each other to be better. That is what one of our departed modeled for us, so well. Ed Dallas, Tx From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jun 7 13:53:00 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] hillclimbing a spridget Message-ID: <1f226.659df3c4.3b1fdb9c@aol.com> Or become a tech official/scrutineer. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 07/06/2011 15:30:55 GMT Daylight Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: Maybe I should just volunteer in the pits : ) Lin From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jun 7 13:57:45 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold Message-ID: <1f63f.76de4ce1.3b1fdcb9@aol.com> What sort of light? Is it valuable, do they still make them?? In a message dated 07/06/2011 18:31:04 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: Can anyone shed some light on the Oselli Torquemaster Intake Manifold for 1 3/4" SU Carbs? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jun 7 14:05:12 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] WTH? Message-ID: <1fc6a.29c57224.3b1fde77@aol.com> Here's mine. I'm a white man born and bred in the city and living in country market town where everyone is white but talk with a different accent to my own. A local road was going to be built, what we call a bypass and it was contentious. The council had an open day and was going to go to a local vote. I thought it was a good idea. A local white woman did not think it was a good idea and didn't like me saying it was and I quote: her: "How long have you lived here?" me: " five years: her: "You're just a foreigner, and your views don't count for nothing": Of course she was wrong on both counts because I wasn't foreign, my views did count, so did my vote and the bypass was built. The happy ending is that I live in a suburban town rather than a country town and everyone accepts me. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 07/06/2011 19:47:59 GMT Daylight Time, edwd at ti.com writes: OK gang, here is a racism story, From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jun 7 15:39:56 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (R.B. Evans) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:39:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WTH? In-Reply-To: <1fc6a.29c57224.3b1fde77@aol.com> References: <1fc6a.29c57224.3b1fde77@aol.com> Message-ID: WeslakeMonza1330 wrote: "I'm a white man born and bred in the city and living in country market town where everyone is white but talk with a different accent to my own." But Daniel, you live in Great Britain where to hear a different accent, all you need do is walk to the next village! Why, even London has been a city with a multitude of accents. I have always been amazed at the vast array of accents and unique phrases to be found in such a small island. From Geordie to Yorkshire, there are a multitude of accents, many of which will automatically assign popular characteristics to those with certain dialects. I have always put it down to Americans having a far greater spatial mobility. In America, with so much land, there was a far greater ability for people to move about, seeking new land and new opportunities, thereby integrating the spoken word on a more sectional basis. Buster Evans From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 15:43:04 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:43:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Temperature probe adapter Message-ID: Spridgeteers, I want to use a temperature probe in the head of my 1275 that is larger than the stock. Can the engineers/metallurgists/experienced folk tell me if there is any reason the factory used an adapter between the head and probe? The new probe is brass and I am concerned about galvanic action possibly eating away at the head rather than a replaceable adapter. Can I simply drill and tap the head for the larger probe, or should I figure out some way to get a replaceable piece in there? The probe is standard, not expensive and easily removed so I don't really care if I need to replace it in a few years, but fixing the head would be a lot more effort and expense. Hal From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 7 16:03:45 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nothing remotely political or LBC... Message-ID: <956766.29815.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry, but just had to pass this along. No guns, cats, politics, religion, Miatas, Tequila, or anything remotely LBC unless it's maybe a Lightning Baseball Catch... Don't think the reporter had quite realized how close she came to an ambulance ride. This guy is obviously following the right career path. Enjoy! David Booker Long Island http://www.wimp.com/barehand/ -- From rich_ball at mindspring.com Tue Jun 7 16:30:07 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:30:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Message-ID: <1B1C666F4DAB42B99A9EA0B5C2097395@psych.washington.edu> Due to family events beyond my control, and believe me I tried to control them, Susan and I will not be able to make the drive back to Wisconsin for the Midget 50th. Before I release my reservation at the Victorian Village is anyone here on the waiting list that I should inform the property about? Our room was a single King, but I'm not sure which building it was in. If anyone wants me to pass their name along to the hotel just let me know. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 16:45:53 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:45:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Concours Spridgeteers out there??? Message-ID: Following request rcvd from Barrett Harrison in Arkansas..... I am cross posting it for him so reply directly to him if interested.... On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Barrett Harrison wrote: Can anyone put me on a Concours quality Sprite and Midget. The invitations are about to go out for the Hot Springs All British Concours d' Elegance and I want to be sure a few Sprites and Midgets get invited to attend. Any help would be appreciated. -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jun 7 17:06:24 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:06:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Temperature probe adapter References: Message-ID: <1DF21499CBC540529F66525707F33E2F@Dell9200> Hal, It is my understanding that the probe bulb needed the spacer due to it's length, the reason for the adapter. The adapter gives you another 3/4 +/- of length. The same sensor bulb was used on the downflow radiator. I moved mine from the radiator to the head with the 1275 and had to order an adapter. Mark Spridgeteers, I want to use a temperature probe in the head of my 1275 that is larger than the stock. Can the engineers/metallurgists/experienced folk tell me if there is any reason the factory used an adapter between the head and probe? The new probe is brass and I am concerned about galvanic action possibly eating away at the head rather than a replaceable adapter. Can I simply drill and tap the head for the larger probe, or should I figure out some way to get a replaceable piece in there? The probe is standard, not expensive and easily removed so I don't really care if I need to replace it in a few years, but fixing the head would be a lot more effort and expense. Hal _______________________________________________ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 7 17:34:01 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:34:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nothing remotely political or LBC... In-Reply-To: <956766.29815.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <956766.29815.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's pretty cool Dave, but it's a fake.look closely at .06 and you can see the REAL ball hit towards left fieldand he already has a ball in his hand. :-) Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C. > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:03:45 -0700 > From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Nothing remotely political or LBC... > > Sorry, but just had to pass this along. No guns, cats, politics, religion, > Miatas, Tequila, or anything remotely LBC unless it's maybe a Lightning > Baseball > Catch... > > Don't think the reporter had quite realized how close > she came to an ambulance > ride. This guy is obviously following the right > career path. > > Enjoy! > > David Booker > Long Island > > > http://www.wimp.com/barehand/ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 18:39:21 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 19:39:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Temperature probe adapter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They probably used an adapter to facilitate the use of an off the shelf probe. You can just drill and tap the head. You'll have less corrosion with a brass part going into a cast iron part than you would steel/iron or steel/Aluminum. You probably want to get the probe bulb in the H2O without restricting the flow too much. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 7 19:11:41 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:11:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <384425.70251.qm@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, , , <384425.70251.qm@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: but chuck, remember, those that can't do, teach.....:-) Above statement not meant to offend any of the teachers on THIS List. ducking... Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C. > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 04:49:53 -0700 > From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc > > this is all very true. in my family i'm the "black sheep" getting dirty > working on cars. family members included college math professor , high > school > teacher with three degrees , elementry library head for a large > (multiple > schools) district , 4th grade nstructor , high school chemestry > instructor and a > few engineers(not the rail road type!). family gatherings > were on a very > unusual level of conversation that i really never "got". > but the point to be > made is the concentration on higher level jobs or people > with "genius" status > seems to be that the concentration or focus or direction > is so intense that > everything else falls into a severe background > priority. my aunt purchased > all her clother in tones of one color as she > could not decide what to wear , and > simple tasks like cleaning house was just > impossible to do. i've seen pretty > much "all" in the oddities in smart > people. but the hardest part is not > picking up after them! it's existing > with them! since childhood i've been > told i'm not applying myself. that > came from my family members. because i > did not function on their expected > level i was frequetly chastised by them. > watch , learn and live! yeah i > have crappy speling and cannot find the darn > "caps lock" fer the life of me > but i can rebuild a motorcycle in my livingroom > and do a spridget engine on > my desk. (did both at difrent times in my life. > now all deligated to the > shop......gives way to harmony in the home....see i > learned something!) > :) > > chuck. > off to small engine repair world for fun and profit! > and why did > my college pschyc. prof always smell like pot.........? nawwww , he > could > not have ...he's the instructor...right? > ________________________________ > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Jim Johnson > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, > June 7, 2011 6:25:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc > > I was > horrified when I finally got back to college (at 27 years old) that my > professors did not even have one teaching class, nor was it required. Hummm > maybe that is why I had difficulty figuring out what they were trying to > explain ; ) I wish all students were notified of that when they started > college so they don't beat up on themselves when they drop out. > Lin > _________ From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 19:16:37 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 18:16:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Temperature probe adapter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It looks like I can just drill and tap the head to accept the new temperature sensor, which is kind of what I was expecting. So now I just have to decide whether to purchase a 37/64 drill bit and a 3/8 NPT tap, neither of which I am too likely to use in what's left to me of this life time, and do the job myself, or take the darned head (fully assembled & ceramic coated) over to my machinist and have him do the job for about the same cost. Let's see, do my share towards keeping the economy going or buy tools. Of course it will be difficult to find made in USA tools. But if I have the machinist do it I won't have the pleasure of getting oil on my hands.... or the fear that I will leave some metal bits in the head to destroy my newly rebuilt engine. Hal On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:39 PM, derf wrote: > They probably used an adapter to facilitate the use of an off the > shelf probe. You can just drill and tap the head. > You'll have less corrosion with a brass part going into a cast iron > part than you would steel/iron or steel/Aluminum. > You probably want to get the probe bulb in the H2O without restricting > the flow too much. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 7 19:16:59 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:16:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.net ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Herb, haven't seen any "lists" but there are Forums. http://www.cadillacforums.com/ http://www.cadillacforum.com/forum/ plus several others found though google...HTH Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C. > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:24:11 -0700 > From: froggi60 at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Team.net ? > > Any one know if there is a Cadillac STS list? I'm having A/C issues. > > Thanks, > > Herb From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jun 7 19:29:18 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:29:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: References: <871850100.4581.1307461557841.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> <346602639.4696.1307461994915.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4DEED06E.3090205@justbrits.com> << Because this list is not moderated....>> _*< AND >*_ << Again you be the moderator of your own posts. >> ROTFLMAOWPRDML, Hal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anybody 'wish' to 'splain ????????????? MRHFLMAO !!! From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 7 19:40:05 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:40:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars In-Reply-To: <199682.90790.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: , <199682.90790.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: extremelyexemplary?????? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:56:15 -0700 > From: jfishbein at snet.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars > > Hint: > 9 letter word. > Starts with an "E" and ends with a "Y". > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rick Bastedo > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 11:20:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] License plate light, early cars > > Oh boy, who has those gaskets? From creel906 at msn.com Tue Jun 7 20:16:00 2011 From: creel906 at msn.com (Charles Reel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:16:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] hillclimbing a spridget In-Reply-To: <1f226.659df3c4.3b1fdb9c@aol.com> References: <1f226.659df3c4.3b1fdb9c@aol.com> Message-ID: Excelent coment become a tech or scrutineer Linda, or show Friday nite or Sat. nite if you Like Wine, look for the Red Mini Cooper, we will take care of you! Getting back to NJ, well that's your problem. The Chuckster and Mary Ann will be there with booze cake ( I don't know what it is, but it gets the job done). Hope to see Linda, look for Chuck and Mary Ann or the red Mini Cooper. Charlie Reel > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:53:00 -0400 > To: grunthaner at gmail.com; crusaderchuck at yahoo.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] hillclimbing a spridget > > Or become a tech official/scrutineer. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 07/06/2011 15:30:55 GMT Daylight Time, > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > Maybe I should just volunteer in the pits : ) > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/creel906 at msn.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Tue Jun 7 21:04:58 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 20:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Poor Eduction, was Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <592542805.70785.1307459688735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <592542805.70785.1307459688735.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <243789.42333.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> hmm being dysexic makes reading stuff like this easy... ;) chuck. ________________________________ From: Dave KK7SS To: spridgets_autox.team.net Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 11:14:48 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Poor Eduction, was Obama Genius, Etc Lahst yere eye kudent spel injinear... now I ar wun. ! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid _______________________________________________ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 8 01:38:13 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 03:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] WTH? Message-ID: <134d3.a1f82f2.3b2080e5@aol.com> But I was still told I was a foreigner and that my views didn't count for nothing. In a message dated 07/06/2011 22:39:50 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: WeslakeMonza1330 wrote: "I'm a white man born and bred in the city and living in country market town where everyone is white but talk with a different accent to my own." But Daniel, you live in Great Britain where to hear a different accent, all you need do is walk to the next village! Why, even London has been a city with a multitude of accents. I have always been amazed at the vast array of accents and unique phrases to be found in such a small island. From Geordie to Yorkshire, there are a multitude of accents, many of which will automatically assign popular characteristics to those with certain dialects. I have always put it down to Americans having a far greater spatial mobility. In America, with so much land, there was a far greater ability for people to move about, seeking new land and new opportunities, thereby integrating the spoken word on a more sectional basis. Buster Evans From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 8 01:40:27 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 03:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nothing remotely political or LBC... Message-ID: <13539.194fb73f.3b20816b@aol.com> I've seen this already. IMPRESSIVE. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 07/06/2011 23:19:30 GMT Daylight Time, tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes: Sorry, but just had to pass this along. No guns, cats, politics, religion, Miatas, Tequila, or anything remotely LBC unless it's maybe a Lightning Baseball Catch... Don't think the reporter had quite realized how close she came to an ambulance ride. This guy is obviously following the right career path. Enjoy! David Booker Long Island http://www.wimp.com/barehand/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 03:47:27 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:47:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <32218581.1307435180226.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <910491.84195.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well said Jay, thanks, Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Jay wrote: > Guys, > > I would appreciate it you would take this discussion somewhere where it is > appropriate. > > > Thanks in advance, > > jay > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 03:57:21 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:57:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] hillclimbing a spridget In-Reply-To: References: <1f226.659df3c4.3b1fdb9c@aol.com> Message-ID: Hey Charlie, How's the Mini ? That is one hot LBC, well done on the looks and extremely well done on the technical upgrades. I know Chuck & Maryann, they stayed at my home for Frank's funeral : ( I am looking forward to seeing their orange Sabb, what an awesome color for a car like that. What is the date for the climb? It would be nice to see some more lister's there : ) If I'm free that day Deni & I will be there. Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Charles Reel wrote: > Excelent coment become a tech or scrutineer Linda, or show Friday nite or > Sat. > nite if you Like Wine, look for the Red Mini Cooper, we will take care of > you! > Getting back to NJ, well that's your problem. The Chuckster and Mary Ann > will > be there with booze cake ( I don't know what it is, but it gets the job > done). > Hope to see Linda, look for Chuck and Mary Ann or the red Mini Cooper. > Charlie Reel > > > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:53:00 -0400 > > To: grunthaner at gmail.com; crusaderchuck at yahoo.com > > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] hillclimbing a spridget > > > > Or become a tech official/scrutineer. > > > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > > In a message dated 07/06/2011 15:30:55 GMT Daylight Time, > > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > > > Maybe I should just volunteer in the pits : ) > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/creel906 at msn.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 8 11:28:29 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Nothing remotely political or LBC... In-Reply-To: References: <956766.29815.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <401795.33699.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Brian - I'm usually the guy that debunks all these clips but entirely missed the ball (pun intended) on this one. After about the 6th or 8th try I finally saw the real ball and can see it every time now. Oh well, anybody got some swamp land they wanna get rid of? I'm apparenlty an easy sell. :-) Still - you have to admit it was done pretty well. I remember being initially amazed at how much the fake ball curves. Guess I was just putting it down to the fact It's been years since I played baseball and maybe forgot how much ball spin can affect trajectory... Oh well! - David Booker Long Island ________________________________ From: brian S To: spridgets list Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 7:34:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nothing remotely political or LBC... It's pretty cool Dave, but it's a fake.look closely at .06 and you can see the REAL ball hit towards left fieldand he already has a ball in his hand. :-) Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C. > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:03:45 -0700 > From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Nothing remotely political or LBC... > > Sorry, but just had to pass this along. No guns, cats, politics, religion, > Miatas, Tequila, or anything remotely LBC unless it's maybe a Lightning > Baseball > Catch... > > Don't think the reporter had quite realized how close > she came to an ambulance > ride. This guy is obviously following the right > career path. > > Enjoy! > > David Booker > Long Island > > > http://www.wimp.com/barehand/ _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1 at yahoo.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 16:56:18 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:56:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post - NOW!! Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ezzapu6pY&feature=share -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 17:03:24 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:03:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Did Anyone Attend Message-ID: Just wondering if anyone from the Bay area might have attended the Wine Country Classic this past June 4-5 at Infineon Raceway (was Sears Point) in Sonoma Ca? Due to the heavy rain I decided to not drive up there. . not knowing how many would actually be racing in the wet? Although it was, from what I read, a "rain or shine" event. The organizers cancelled, due to the rain, the parade of classic cars into the downtown area. However, there might have been some racing activity still going on. . even with the weather as bad as it was? Kirk From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 8 17:55:14 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:55:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> Brad, you and I don't agree on much, but I'm 100% with you on this. If those idiots at Delta don't get their sh_t together and reverse those charges, I have no problem with writing a check to cover a share of them. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:56 PM To: Spridget list ; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ezzapu6pY&feature=share -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Jun 8 18:28:51 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 00:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! In-Reply-To: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> Message-ID: <555309050.93437.1307579331543.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> I sent this to my sister in NY. My niece used to work for the WSJ.. You never know.. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 8 18:28:56 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:28:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges In-Reply-To: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> Message-ID: <7BD9504BAF334A009D3A3829FDBB862B@spider> Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:06:11 -0400 WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. soldiers returning from Afghanistan posted a YouTube video complaining that they had to pay Delta Air Lines $2,800 out of pocket to check extra bags, prompting an onslaught of online comments critical of Delta and at least one boycott effort The video went online late Tuesday. By Wednesday afternoon - nearly 200,000 views later - Delta had posted a blog message saying it had revised its bag fee policy for troops. The airline had been allowing troops traveling coach class three free bags, but was imposing a $200 fee on a fourth bag. Now the Delta - in a statement attributed to an anonymous customer representative - says fourth bags will be free. In the video, entitled "Delta airlines welcomes Soldiers home," two soldiers who identified themselves as staff sergeants said their Army orders authorized them to bring up to four bags with them. After an 18-hour layover, they said they learned of the bag fees when they checked in at Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport Tuesday for a 7:15 a.m. flight to Atlanta. One sergeant said his fourth bag was a weapons case containing an M4 carbine rifle, a grenade launcher and a 9 millimeter pistol that he had used in Afghanistan. The grenade launcher attaches to the rifle. It's not unusual for returning soldiers to check weapons when flying on a commercial airline if the weapons have been certified as unloaded, said Joe Davis, a spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars' Washington office. "A $200 bill for extra baggage by a government-contracted airline is the worst welcome home any soldier could receive," Davis said. "We know this is a business issue and that the troops will be reimbursed if they are authorized additional baggage in their orders, but the shock of even being charged is enough to make most servicemen and women simply shake their heads and wonder who or what it is they are protecting." Army officials said Wednesday they were trying to identify the soldiers in the video and their unit. One sergeant in the video said the unit was returning from Afghanistan to Fort Polk in Louisiana. =========================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:55 PM To: Brad Fornal; Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! Brad, you and I don't agree on much, but I'm 100% with you on this. If those idiots at Delta don't get their sh_t together and reverse those charges, I have no problem with writing a check to cover a share of them. LAD ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:56 PM To: Spridget list ; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ezzapu6pY&feature=share -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 18:28:57 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:28:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! In-Reply-To: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> Message-ID: I believe they reversed their stance today on the charges. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:55 PM To: Brad Fornal; Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! Brad, you and I don't agree on much, but I'm 100% with you on this. If those idiots at Delta don't get their sh_t together and reverse those charges, I have no problem with writing a check to cover a share of them. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:56 PM To: Spridget list ; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ezzapu6pY&feature=share -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pondhopautomation at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 8 18:40:12 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:40:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ok. serious religious content ...not LBC related though Message-ID: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 19:13:36 -0400 SAN DIEGO (AP) - It's going to take a miracle to remove the Surfing Madonna, according to an art agency hired to run tests on an illegal public mosaic that has been sparking debate about what should be considered graffiti. Assistant conservator Andrew Smith of Los Angeles-based Sculpture Conservation Studio said Wednesday that his agency will recommend officials in the beach city of Encinitas not only keep the artwork - but adopt a plan to protect it. The artwork featuring the Virgin of Guadalupe riding a surfboard was put up under a train bridge shortly before Easter by artists disguised as construction workers, according to witnesses. Officials contend the piece is graffiti under the law and must be removed. Still, City Council members acknowledge it is stunning, so they hired the art agency to find a way to take it down without destroying it. They hope the piece can be displayed at a local business where the public can continue to view it. Local businesses have been raising funds to cover the city's expenses if the mosaic is moved, and several people have offered to buy the artwork. But Smith said after examining the wall Tuesday that it would be pretty much impossible to remove the image because it is attached with a combination of epoxy glue and a metal bolting system. "It's on there very securely, and short of a miracle, it's not coming down," he said. Smith said he expects to hand over a report with his agency's recommendations to the city by Wednesday evening. Encinitas Mayor James Bond said Wednesday that the City Council would need to review the official report before making a decision on the Surfing Madonna's fate. The colorful mosaic has drawn scores of visitors who have come to see it in the coastal city 25 miles north of San Diego. Bond has said the artwork is beautiful but leaving it in place would set a dangerous precedent and could encourage more illegal art in the city, which has a large artist population. He said the mosaic's religious connotations also have drawn complaints. Some say the artwork blurs the line between church and state; others consider it sacrilegious to have Mexico's patron saint pictured surfing. Image at http://tinyurl.com/3q7m8sx From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jun 8 18:52:27 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 00:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! In-Reply-To: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> Message-ID: <181402688.1645529.1307580747679.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> why are they charging active duty soldiers returning from combat at all?B Who cares whether its 3 or 4 bags? Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Brad Fornal" , "Spridget list" , "Yahoo Spridget list" Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 7:55:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! Brad, you and I don't agree on much, but I'm 100% with you on this. B If those idiots at Delta don't get their sh_t together and reverse those charges, I have no problem with writing a check to cover a share of them. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:56 PM To: Spridget list ; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ezzapu6pY&feature=share -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jun 8 19:21:33 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The "racist asshole" responds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <555987.21137.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Hal Faulkner wrote: > I'm wearing out my delete key! Not on your post, I'm not. Perfectly put, Hal. Ron From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 20:22:40 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:22:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 Message-ID: OK, just what is so difficult about 1342 anticlockwise??? I finally got around to putting my 123/Mini distributor back into Idget tonight. I need to go to Lexington this weekend and my GTi got "doored" last week and is in the body shop in pieces. So I repeat my mantra of "all I did was pull the distributor, there is no need to touch the carbs or anything but distributor" over and over. Get it back in, perform the static timing, double-check the wires for 1342, and fire it up. Started right up, but the idle is not smooth at all and it just won't run right. Tweak the dynamic timing, fiddle-fart with everything, still not happy. Finally give up in disgust and go wash my hands literally as well as metaphorically. Then I realize that something wasn't quite kosher, so I open up the garage again and check. Sure enough, somehow I swapped 2 and 4 of all strange things. Funny how much better it runs if you can only follow directions! David L From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 21:24:45 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:24:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges In-Reply-To: <7BD9504BAF334A009D3A3829FDBB862B@spider> References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> <7BD9504BAF334A009D3A3829FDBB862B@spider> Message-ID: Delta sucks. So, is this off topic topic LAD approved? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 21:30:04 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:30:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bitchers and Whiners please delete this Off Topic Post- NOW!! In-Reply-To: <181402688.1645529.1307580747679.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> <181402688.1645529.1307580747679.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Why are they contracted by the US govt and not flying soldiers home for free? I go to Fort Polk sometimes. It is very impressive when an A-10 flies very low and close to the highway unexpectedly. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Jun 8 22:14:41 2011 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 04:14:41 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning! LBC Automobile magazine Message-ID: <113307381-1307592881-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1678298701-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry> Has anyone mentioned the MG Midget profile in the Collectible Classic section of the new Automobile? The July 2011 issue has a decent short profile. Drew Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jun 8 22:43:47 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:43:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <101460530.20110608214347@pacifier.com> Hello David, Ah, I'd say you've arrived at the gateway to old age -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" An oyster is a fish built like a nut. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed Jun 8 22:51:09 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 23:51:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 motor status In-Reply-To: <4DEBF54B.6050905@tx.rr.com> References: <16370EF2-49AE-4235-A6EA-6D01F88AD2B8@gmail.com> <20110604014446.6G7LG.191222.root@cdptpa-web21-z01> <0D17395463A74D2B85543DE3893CB42D@spider> <4DEBF54B.6050905@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4DF0513D.5040000@tx.rr.com> My dad said he honed the block and it looks good. He hasn't worked on the pistons yet. > We soaked the last piston with PB Blaster overnight From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 9 01:55:52 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 03:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 Message-ID: <5b693.667affb7.3b21d688@aol.com> Probably most of us have done this at least once. In recent years I've always had the leads labelled so unless I pull them off the cap I'm ok. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 09/06/2011 03:37:36 GMT Daylight Time, 72spridget at gmail.com writes: Sure enough, somehow I swapped 2 and 4 of all strange things. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 9 02:06:29 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 04:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Spridgets - fuel cell. Message-ID: <5b807.22cd9b1c.3b21d905@aol.com> I was surprised to read that pretty much all US circuit racers require a fuel cell for any racing Spridget. Are there any exceptions because here in the UK you can race pretty much any car with a standard road tank. Considering the fuel cell itself, is this an ATL bag tank in a 'box' with an in-date certificate? Or, do they allow self fabricated aluminium alloy fuel tanks? Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 07/06/2011 02:10:54 GMT Daylight Time, mgmaven at bellsouth.net writes: Also , if you are going hill climbing or racing, check with the group you intend to race with to see if they require a fuel cell. All vintage race groups I have raced with for the past 20 years do, but if you go with NASA, EMRA, Hooked-On-Driving, etc. you may not. Are you going to really race or just tour around the track, do track days, or light schools? From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 05:19:14 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 04:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: <5b693.667affb7.3b21d688@aol.com> References: <5b693.667affb7.3b21d688@aol.com> Message-ID: <842296.40543.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> oh i've been there done that too! took permanent marker marked cap now use plastic "c" shaped clip on numbers on wires and with a tiny brush with contrasting color paint put driection of rotation of dist. rotor on breaker plate too. on black caps i use a white paint stick marker. chuck. ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" To: 72spridget at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 3:55:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1342 Probably most of us have done this at least once. In recent years I've always had the leads labelled so unless I pull them off the cap I'm ok. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 09/06/2011 03:37:36 GMT Daylight Time, 72spridget at gmail.com writes: Sure enough, somehow I swapped 2 and 4 of all strange things. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 9 07:29:39 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 08:29:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges In-Reply-To: References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC><7BD9504BAF334A009D3A3829FDBB862B@spider> Message-ID: <5B9DDE07314A467AB0E5FBC3D8AEDEB9@HomePC> Thanks for the laugh, derf. Certainly, I recognize that you are just trying to start another problem where no problem exists. I'll just consider the source. -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:24 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges Delta sucks. So, is this off topic topic LAD approved? _______________________________________________ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 9 08:15:26 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:15:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>, , , , Message-ID: Not true, Congress voted to block the mandate of E15. See: http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/22/report-house-votes-overwhelmingly-to-block -e15-fuel/ and the EPA has postponed it's decision to mandate it. http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/22/epa-postpones-decision-on-e15-ethanol-blen d/ Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:47:29 -0400 > From: ah3000me at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? > > Write your reps in DC. They're all available via e-mail, and their staff > actually reads and replies to them if you include your home mailing > address. > > The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer cars. > If you don't write your reps in the House & Senate, it's only going to get > worse. > > - Tom > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > > > It is called a very powerful farm lobby. Not only do they force the use of > > ethanol, but they also restrict cheaper ethanol imports from Brazil that > > can > > make the stuff at 1/2 the price using sugar cane. The final killer is due > > to the use of ethanol form corn, feed stock prices have gone up making our > > food more expensive. > > > > Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. > > > > Steve > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, derf wrote: > > > > > It irritates me that the government practically mandates it, and at > > > the same time makes auto makers improve fuel mileage. > > > I suppose we the people are subsidizing the crap, too. > > > _______________________________________________ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Jun 9 08:26:18 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:26:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: <842296.40543.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <5b693.667affb7.3b21d688@aol.com> <842296.40543.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4DF0D80A.9000708@tx.rr.com> Rotation is easy- it's always opposite the direction that the vacuum advance points. > oh i've been there done that too! took permanent marker marked cap now use > plastic "c" shaped clip on numbers on wires and with a tiny brush with > contrasting color paint put driection of rotation of dist. rotor on breaker > plate too. on black caps i use a white paint stick marker. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 08:31:46 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:31:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ailing MG TD.... Message-ID: Rally to Reno arrived in Dodge City yesterday and departed this morning. Was waiting to meet John Diekis who was driving his MG TD.... Heard from him about 1:30 pm from Council Grove, KS and then nothing until about 9:00pm last night... He had arrived at the hotel after having some problems... Changed out the coil about 75 miles east of Dodge City but was still having some issues so stopped to change out his points. That got him here but the car was not right. Five of us spent a few hours hunched over the TD. Replaced the fuel pump and that got it running but we noticed the carb jets were at two different levels and there was a horrible clattering from the front of the rocker cover. Pulled the cover and checked all the tappet clearances - no joy. All appeared fine but the noise was still there and too severe to attempt the rest of his trip to Reno. Anyway, John left this morning riding with Dick Lunney in his B after deciding to go ahead to Reno, have some fun and then fly home where he could pick up his truck and trailer and come back for the TD. I found a safe storage for the TD and trailer which will stay here in Dodge City awaiting John's return. Guess it coulda been worse..... -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Jun 9 08:50:03 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:50:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Grille Message-ID: <0e5201cc26b4$8478cda0$8d6a68e0$@net> What holds it on? It looks like it would be the same spire nuts as what is holding on the Sprite badge. Is that correct? Thanks, Heard From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 9 08:52:58 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:52:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: <4DF0D80A.9000708@tx.rr.com> References: <5b693.667affb7.3b21d688@aol.com> <842296.40543.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DF0D80A.9000708@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <201106090753242.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 09:26 AM 6/9/2011, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: >Rotation is easy- it's always opposite the direction that the vacuum >advance points. ========== Yes, but some cars have a retard port.... say Triumph 1500 (Spittys).. and the nipple for the vacuum pod points toward the distributor body. The advance nipples point away....especially when cold. Peter C From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 09:52:32 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:52:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges In-Reply-To: <5B9DDE07314A467AB0E5FBC3D8AEDEB9@HomePC> References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> <7BD9504BAF334A009D3A3829FDBB862B@spider> <5B9DDE07314A467AB0E5FBC3D8AEDEB9@HomePC> Message-ID: No, I'm just pointing out the obvious: Some off topic content is OK with you while other off topic content is cause for whining and complaining. That is the problem as it exists. You probably will not find any complaints from me about cats, which I do not care for, Zappa, which I also do not care for, and other things. I can keep my mouth shut when I don't agree and let others have their off topic banter. It seems you can only do so if you agree with the off topic banter. I, too, consider the source every time you complain. Why you can't just participate when it suits you and ignore when it doesn't is the question. Please do not answer, though, just ask yourself when you feel the need to whine and complain. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Thanks for the laugh, derf. > > Certainly, I recognize that you are just trying to start another problem > where no problem exists. I'll just consider the source. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 10:04:38 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Spridgets - fuel cell. In-Reply-To: <5b807.22cd9b1c.3b21d905@aol.com> Message-ID: <923036.86593.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Must be ATL, Fule Safe or similar. --- On Thu, 6/9/11, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Spridgets - fuel cell. > To: mgmaven at bellsouth.net, spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 3:06 AM > I was surprised to read that pretty > much all US circuit racers require a > fuel cell for any racing Spridget. Are there any > exceptions because here in > the UK you can race pretty much any car with a standard > road tank. > > Considering the fuel cell itself, is this an ATL bag tank > in a 'box' with > an in-date certificate? Or, do they allow self > fabricated aluminium alloy > fuel tanks? > > Thanks > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 07/06/2011 02:10:54 GMT Daylight > Time, > mgmaven at bellsouth.net > writes: > > Also , if you are going hill climbing or racing, > check with the group > you intend to race with to see if they require a fuel > cell. All > vintage race groups I have raced with for the past 20 > years do, but > if you go with NASA, EMRA, Hooked-On-Driving, etc. > you may not. Are > you going to really race or just tour around the > track, do track > days, or light schools? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 10:46:12 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:46:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Spridgets - fuel cell. In-Reply-To: <5b807.22cd9b1c.3b21d905@aol.com> References: <5b807.22cd9b1c.3b21d905@aol.com> Message-ID: There are tracks you can get on here with cars in street trim. But, any large, organized group will have strict regulations and rules. Insurance is expensive and things like roll cages, fuel cells, and fire suits are often required. There are economical options like SCCA and SPEC Miata where you can compete without spending hundred of thousands of quid. For example, the local drag strip is open to just about any street legal vehicle. But, if you run faster than an 11 second quarter mile you need certain safety items not required for the slower vehicles. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 10:55:39 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave - Similar thing happened to me years ago with 15426378 from the 289 in my '67 Mustang. If you inadvertently make it 15426387, the engine makes a really bad noise once every time the dizzy spins around and doesn't want to run very well. This happened at the end of a very long weekend installing a big solid lift cam, rocker lockers, lifters, intake, carb, etc. etc. etc... I had been saving the pennies for a long time and was going to take the car up a notch or two. In my mind, I had improperly timed the cam/crank. Just before taking the whole thing apart again, I remembered what my dad has told me over and over: "Start by checking that the simple things are right before moving on to the hard ones because every once in a while you'll get lucky". Went carefully thru the firing order (even though I knew it was right), and ta-da! it was time to go play on the backroads after all! Is it any wonder I can quote that firing order over 30 years later? Good Advice that has saved me a couple of times and would have saved me many more if I had only thought about it in time. David Booker Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 10:55:39 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave - Similar thing happened to me years ago with 15426378 from the 289 in my '67 Mustang. If you inadvertently make it 15426387, the engine makes a really bad noise once every time the dizzy spins around and doesn't want to run very well. This happened at the end of a very long weekend installing a big solid lift cam, rocker lockers, lifters, intake, carb, etc. etc. etc... I had been saving the pennies for a long time and was going to take the car up a notch or two. In my mind, I had improperly timed the cam/crank. Just before taking the whole thing apart again, I remembered what my dad has told me over and over: "Start by checking that the simple things are right before moving on to the hard ones because every once in a while you'll get lucky". Went carefully thru the firing order (even though I knew it was right), and ta-da! it was time to go play on the backroads after all! Is it any wonder I can quote that firing order over 30 years later? Good Advice that has saved me a couple of times and would have saved me many more if I had only thought about it in time. David Booker Long Island From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jun 9 10:57:10 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:57:10 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC><7BD9504BAF334A009D3A3829FDBB862B@spider><5B9DDE07314A467AB0E5FBC3D8AEDEB9@HomePC> Message-ID: <77F408554B5A4935B74EC2851A96BB3E@user8634b3d69b> Stop it you two. You're worse than a pair of kids. :-) Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges > No, I'm just pointing out the obvious: > Some off topic content is OK with you while other off topic content is > cause for whining and complaining. That is the problem as it exists. > You probably will not find any complaints from me about cats, which I > do not care for, Zappa, which I also do not care for, and other > things. > I can keep my mouth shut when I don't agree and let others have their > off topic banter. It seems you can only do so if you agree with the > off topic banter. > I, too, consider the source every time you complain. Why you can't > just participate when it suits you and ignore when it doesn't is the > question. > Please do not answer, though, just ask yourself when you feel the need > to whine and complain. > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Larry Daniels > wrote: >> Thanks for the laugh, derf. >> >> Certainly, I recognize that you are just trying to start another problem >> where no problem exists. I'll just consider the source. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 11:02:37 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:02:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Delta vs. luggage charges In-Reply-To: <77F408554B5A4935B74EC2851A96BB3E@user8634b3d69b> References: <6BDE93C61BD24F8EA0465F9832FC7391@HomePC> <7BD9504BAF334A009D3A3829FDBB862B@spider> <5B9DDE07314A467AB0E5FBC3D8AEDEB9@HomePC> <77F408554B5A4935B74EC2851A96BB3E@user8634b3d69b> Message-ID: You're right. I'll stop. Sorry, LAD, my whining and complaining is asinine. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 11:15:37 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:15:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, and Ford switched it to 13726548 after 82, except in the 5.0 trucks. 351s are all 13726548. From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 11:25:07 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:25:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: <4DF0D80A.9000708@tx.rr.com> References: <5b693.667affb7.3b21d688@aol.com> <842296.40543.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DF0D80A.9000708@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: > Rotation is easy- it's always opposite the direction that the vacuum advance > points. Sure, if you try to analyse it. But back when it was my first LBC after a string of small-block Chevies, it never crossed my mind that a distributor might NOT be clockwise. The classic putt cough putt bang ;-) At least this time it was because I didn't do a very good job of tracing the leads from the bottom of the cap... Life is too short to keep making the same mistake over and over. David L From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 9 11:42:20 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:42:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: References: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201106091042625.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> So, the "Rule of Nines" is no longer valid? Peter At 12:15 PM 6/9/2011, derf wrote: >Yes, and Ford switched it to 13726548 after 82, except in the 5.0 >trucks. 351s are all 13726548. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 9 11:54:50 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: References: <5b693.667affb7.3b21d688@aol.com> <842296.40543.qm@web112715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DF0D80A.9000708@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <201106091054705.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 12:25 PM 6/9/2011, David Lieb wrote: > > Rotation is easy- it's always opposite the direction that the > vacuum advance > > points. > >Sure, if you try to analyse it. But back when it was my first LBC >after a string of small-block Chevies, it never crossed my mind that a >distributor might NOT be clockwise. I spent a few days trying to get my Peugeot running after some engine work. Never crossed my mind that no.1 is at the firewall.... who knew? From pfeilmat at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 11:57:12 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:57:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: References: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4763C69F-5DDB-47FB-A7A7-4D220AAC81BB@gmail.com> Speaking of 351c, I was so used to my 1500 spridget, when I stabbed the dizzy in the 351c I figured the opposite on rotation for the dizzy and essentially stabbed it 180deg out of timing, because I thought it had the same rotation. A call to a ford friend and a couple of beers later and he sorted out. Then there was the misfiring on right turns after that. But that is a different story. Matt P Sent from my iPod On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:15 AM, derf wrote: > Yes, and Ford switched it to 13726548 after 82, except in the 5.0 > trucks. 351s are all 13726548. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From pfeilmat at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 12:04:04 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:04:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2600D550-3D81-49B0-93C4-E4640835E4D2@gmail.com> That's aircraft mechanic troubleshooting 101. Did it work before you messed with it? What did you do to make it not work? Start at the cheapest and easiest an work your way back. It is a machine, it is not fighting you, you are fighting with yourself. I have to tell the kids at work that all day. Matt P Sent from my iPod On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:55 AM, David Booker wrote: > Dave - > Similar thing happened to me years ago with 15426378 from the 289 > in my '67 > Mustang. If you inadvertently make it 15426387, the engine makes a > really bad > noise once every time the dizzy spins around and doesn't want > to run very well. > This happened at the end of a very long weekend installing > a big solid lift cam, > rocker lockers, lifters, intake, carb, etc. etc. etc... > I had been saving the > pennies for a long time and was going to take the car > up a notch or two. > > > In my mind, I had improperly timed the cam/crank. Just > before taking the whole > thing apart again, I remembered what my dad has told > me over and over: "Start by > checking that the simple things are right > before moving on to the hard ones > because every once in a while you'll get > lucky". Went carefully thru the firing > order (even though I knew it was > right), and ta-da! it was time to go play on > the backroads after all! Is it > any wonder I can quote that firing order over 30 > years later? > > Good Advice > that has saved me a couple of times and would have saved me many > more if I > had only thought about it in time. > > David Booker > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 12:10:24 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:10:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Spridgets - fuel cell. In-Reply-To: References: <5b807.22cd9b1c.3b21d905@aol.com> Message-ID: Do you guys agree, there's just something totally WRONG with them now running 1000 feet rather than a quarter mile. JUST WRONG...not to mention un-American!!! Herb On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:46 AM, derf wrote: > There are tracks you can get on here with cars in street trim. But, > any large, organized group will have strict regulations and rules. > Insurance is expensive and things like roll cages, fuel cells, and > fire suits are often required. > There are economical options like SCCA and SPEC Miata where you can > compete without spending hundred of thousands of quid. > For example, the local drag strip is open to just about any street > legal vehicle. But, if you run faster than an 11 second quarter mile > you need certain safety items not required for the slower vehicles. > _______________________________________________ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Jun 9 12:29:39 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:29:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: <258902.71804.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110609182939.NTGLU.4726.root@cdptpa-web04-z01> Well that's your problem right there- it should be 18436572 like any other self-respecting V8 engine. (Of course while they are at it they would have to number the cylinders like everybody else too.) I'll tell you that I have timed very many V8 engines, and even if you know the firing order by heart and you are careful when you do it, occasionally you will cross a wire. It is definitely worthwhile to double-check that before moving on to the more difficult parts. There are aftermarket parts now that change the firing order of some engines. I noticed on a car show on TV they were talking about aftermarket cams that would change the firing order of the V8 Chevy just slightly, probably reversed 2 cylinders, and it would make a little more horsepower that way due to a slight change in the way the breathing worked. > Similar thing happened to me years ago with 15426378 from the 289 > in my '67 > Mustang. If you inadvertently make it 15426387, the engine makes a > really bad > noise once every time the dizzy spins around and doesn't want > to run very well. > This happened at the end of a very long weekend installing > a big solid lift cam From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 13:05:00 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:05:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Spridgets - fuel cell. In-Reply-To: References: <5b807.22cd9b1c.3b21d905@aol.com> Message-ID: <8949912733868881352@unknownmsgid> > Do you guys agree, there's just something totally WRONG with them now > running 1000 feet rather than a quarter mile. JUST WRONG...not to mention > un-American!!! Naw, to be properly UN-American it would have to be 300 meters. David L From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 13:07:59 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:07:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] And Now This (Delta Soldiers Weapons) Message-ID: In my self affacing sense of humor I have to tell this story as I was reminded by the soldiers who can legally carry weapons back from the front. I had been working for a company whereby I had to drive from the Sacramento area up to the Oregon border for a particular assignment. I brought my Glock 19 with me in my bag just in case I might be able to find some legal forest land to do some target practice. I had not shot the gun for a very long time. I keep a semi auto by my bed at night in a safe that I can get into very quickly by way of the key pad. These days it is a 1911 Springfield 45 Military Spec. Although I was not able to find a safe place to shoot, I did manage to leave 7 9mm rounds in my bag before flying on a trip, a month later, to Los Angeles (for the same company). I only wish the whole scene had been video recorded as the police, airport security and the TSA were on top of me like a "duck on a June bug." All I could think of was "Thank God I was not such a Moron to have left the gun in there as well" as this was by itself moronic behaviour of the highest order. First off I noticed that the screener had taken an unusual interest in my bag as it had passed through the machine. I thought nothing of it at first until he brought my bag to the counter and began to have the cop who was there pull the bullets out on the table. Was I surprised. (Only the cop was allowed to handle the bullets as they treated them like some form of alien kryptonite). After I explained the situation, fortunately they let me go (they of course kept the bullets). They also said that I might be getting a fine from the TSA (which never happened). Had this been an international flight, things would have no doubt been worse for me. The airport Police Officer was very nice about the whole thing, as were the other representatives. It was a harrowing experience that I will never forget. And I was able to catch my flight. Kirk From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 9 14:41:04 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 Message-ID: But on a distributor with no vacuum advance.... In a message dated 09/06/2011 15:44:02 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes: Rotation is easy- it's always opposite the direction that the vacuum advance points. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 9 14:49:48 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] And Now This (Delta Soldiers Weapons) Message-ID: Here on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean I was travelling from the UK to Northern Ireland. I think it was checking in on the way back, at Belfast International or City that the scanner guy said 'Is that a knife in your bag'. Umm yes it's just to peel an orange'. ' Stand back, get back from the bag' or words to that effect as a least one security guard made a bee line for me and my bag. I just froze on the spot. Yep there it was bare to the world a common or garden domestic household knife that would cut butter or peel an orange, but not much else. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 09/06/2011 20:32:31 GMT Daylight Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: First off I noticed that the screener had taken an unusual interest in my bag as it had passed through the machine. I thought nothing of it at first until he brought my bag to the counter and began to have the cop who was there pull the bullets out on the table. Was I surprised. (Only the cop was allowed to handle the bullets as they treated them like some form of alien kryptonite). After I explained the situation, fortunately they let me go (they of course kept the bullets). They also said that I might be getting a fine from the TSA (which never happened). Had this been an international flight, things would have no doubt been worse for me. The airport Police Officer was very nice about the whole thing, as were the other representatives. It was a harrowing experience that I will never forget. And I was able to catch my flight. Kirk From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Jun 9 14:54:42 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:54:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1342 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110609205442.SFABZ.241756.root@cdptpa-web02-z02> I don't know if I've ever seen a distributor in a common automobile that didn't have a vacuum advance, but most of my history is with American brands. Of course they make racing distributors without vacuum advance and I was going to say that usually the people using them are pretty knowledgeable of what is going on, but I've seen people on TV building performance cars that more times than not would get the distributor in backwards. If it has weights to advance the timing you can always look at how that mechanism works before putting on the cap. When I was working in my dad's shop I could time a V8 Chevy very well just by rotating to TDC on #1 and then installing the distributor, I knew almost exactly how much it should be rotated. (I couldn't do it now though.) Other than my LBC, it has been nearly 14 years since I've owned a car that even HAD a distributor. > > But on a distributor with no vacuum advance.... > > > Rotation is easy- it's always opposite the direction that the vacuum > advance points. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 15:00:03 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 14:00:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] And Now This (Delta Soldiers Weapons) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like me . . they treat the item/s like it is about ready to go off. Thanks for sharing . . I don't feel quite as bad as I did before! Kirk On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM, wrote: > Here on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean I was travelling from the UK > to Northern Ireland. I think it was checking in on the way back, at Belfast > International or City that the scanner guy said 'Is that a knife in your > bag'. Umm yes it's just to peel an orange'. ' Stand back, get back from > the bag' or words to that effect as a least one security guard made a bee > line for me and my bag. I just froze on the spot. Yep there it was bare to > the world a common or garden domestic household knife that would cut butter > or peel an orange, but not much else. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 09/06/2011 20:32:31 GMT Daylight Time, > khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: > > First off I noticed that the screener had taken an unusual interest in my > bag as it had passed through the machine. I thought nothing of it at first > until he brought my bag to the counter and began to have the cop who was > there pull the bullets out on the table. Was I surprised. (Only the cop > was allowed to handle the bullets as they treated them like some form of > alien kryptonite). > > After I explained the situation, fortunately they let me go (they of course > kept the bullets). They also said that I might be getting a fine from the > TSA (which never happened). Had this been an international flight, things > would have no doubt been worse for me. > > The airport Police Officer was very nice about the whole thing, as were the > other representatives. It was a harrowing experience that I will never > forget. > > And I was able to catch my flight. > > Kirk From nases at verizon.net Thu Jun 9 16:08:39 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:08:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC Message-ID: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> This is Hagerty's take: http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 16:19:59 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:19:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] And Now This (Delta Soldiers Weapons) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My Mom would always peel oranges with a knife making one long peel that looked like something M.C. Escher would have drawn. My Sister inherited that skill, but I always peel oranges by hand. Hal On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Sounds like me . . they treat the item/s like it is about ready to go off. > > > Thanks for sharing . . I don't feel quite as bad as I did before! > > Kirk > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM, wrote: > > > Here on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean I was travelling from the > UK > > to Northern Ireland. I think it was checking in on the way back, at > Belfast > > International or City that the scanner guy said 'Is that a knife in your > > bag'. Umm yes it's just to peel an orange'. ' Stand back, get back from > > the bag' or words to that effect as a least one security guard made a bee > > line for me and my bag. I just froze on the spot. Yep there it was bare > to > > the world a common or garden domestic household knife that would cut > butter > > or peel an orange, but not much else. > > > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > > In a message dated 09/06/2011 20:32:31 GMT Daylight Time, > > khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: > > > > First off I noticed that the screener had taken an unusual interest in my > > bag as it had passed through the machine. I thought nothing of it at > first > > until he brought my bag to the counter and began to have the cop who was > > there pull the bullets out on the table. Was I surprised. (Only the cop > > was allowed to handle the bullets as they treated them like some form of > > alien kryptonite). > > > > After I explained the situation, fortunately they let me go (they of > course > > kept the bullets). They also said that I might be getting a fine from > the > > TSA (which never happened). Had this been an international flight, > things > > would have no doubt been worse for me. > > > > The airport Police Officer was very nice about the whole thing, as were > the > > other representatives. It was a harrowing experience that I will never > > forget. > > > > And I was able to catch my flight. > > > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 17:00:24 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: I bet I'm not the only one that's owned a number (6) of the cars on their list. Herb On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Philip Nase wrote: > This is Hagerty's take: > > http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From bkitterer at me.com Thu Jun 9 17:13:02 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:13:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Grille In-Reply-To: <0e5201cc26b4$8478cda0$8d6a68e0$@net> References: <0e5201cc26b4$8478cda0$8d6a68e0$@net> Message-ID: <1E031B5E-0968-4020-B5E2-A80C08E794FD@me.com> Spire flat nuts Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > What holds it on? It looks like it would be the same spire nuts as what is > holding on the Sprite badge. Is that correct? > > Thanks, > Heard > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 9 17:31:12 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:31:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: Why do the Midget and the Sprite have different MPGs listed? -----Original Message----- From: Philip Nase Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 5:08 PM To: Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC This is Hagerty's take: http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jun 9 17:38:34 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:38:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Grille In-Reply-To: <1E031B5E-0968-4020-B5E2-A80C08E794FD@me.com> References: <0e5201cc26b4$8478cda0$8d6a68e0$@net> <1E031B5E-0968-4020-B5E2-A80C08E794FD@me.com> Message-ID: <70B19A57FC1446BAB5293E65F9197CE3@spider> http://tinyurl.com/6kyxmuf =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:13 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE Grille Spire flat nuts Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage ============================================== On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > What holds it on? It looks like it would be the same spire nuts as what is > holding on the Sprite badge. Is that correct? > > Thanks, > Heard > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 9 17:45:06 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:45:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but still cool Message-ID: Nice lap of the Ring with a ZR1. http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110609/CARNEWS/110609854 BTW, I officially approve of this non-LBC video. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 18:23:31 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <59245.65677.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You guys are hanging out with idiots. I know and hire very many Ph.Ds who are extremely productive, practical and,um, not prone to stereotyping people. Severla have invented and developed technologies and products that have changed your life and in some cases saved it or that of a love one. I happen to know one who is a renowned materials physicist, great musician, house/barn/amplifier wirer, medal-winning horseman, and all-around great brother, Dr. Bob. --- On Mon, 6/6/11, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > From: b-evans at earthlink.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 11:59 PM > Jim Johnson wrote: bWorked with > a guy in Houston who had 4 separate PhD's > by the time he was 22. And they were in math and science!! > We had to help him > tie his shoes > and occasionally had to go show him how to get to where he > lived.b&b > > Ah, you were lucky, Jim. After careers, among others, > as a newspaper reporter > and editor, and as a cop, I went back to school to get my > BA and advanced > degrees. After that I found myself on the history > faculty at a major > university with 1,200 PhD. Now it must be remembered > that a PhD simply means > that the person has simply done further study of a VERY > narrow subject within > their discipline. (Mine was the influence on > Congressmen from districts with > large free and slave negroes when voting on race-related > issues from > 1830-1860.) For myself, I forbid my > students from addressing me as either > bDoctorb or bProfessorb. bMr.b was fine by me. > (At one point, we > hired a new Academic VP who refused to address anyone as > bDoctorb unless > the person was a MEDICAL doctor. Unfortunately, too > many PhDbs let their > ego take control, and they believe they are expert on ALL > issues, even outside > their discipline. (Remember, those who teach in > grades K-12 must take courses > in teaching and pass national and State tests. PhDbs > need no training to > teach; just the PhD bunion cardb. And, most > have been institutionalized > since they were 5--from kindergarten to elementary school > to junior high > school to high school to college to post-graduate > university. Few have been > out in the real world, holding a job or meeting a > payroll. Fewer still have > served in the military. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jun 9 18:48:32 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:48:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: <35C3C226-AE21-41A0-9887-2800AD7CD8BA@chartermi.net> The Midget pictured is heavier than the Bugeye and has a bunch of smog equipment. Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:31 PM, "Larry Daniels" wrote: > Why do the Midget and the Sprite have different MPGs listed? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Nase > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 5:08 PM > To: Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC > > This is Hagerty's take: > > http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 18:48:59 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:48:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? In-Reply-To: References: <1157836864.525265.1306336926281.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I am in shock, congress actually did something right. My bugeye thanks you. Steve On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:15 AM, brian S wrote: > Not true, Congress voted to block the mandate of E15. > See: > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/22/report-house-votes-overwhelmingly-to-block > -e15-fuel/ > > and the EPA has postponed it's decision to mandate it. > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/22/epa-postpones-decision-on-e15-ethanol-blen > d/ > > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:47:29 -0400 > > From: ah3000me at gmail.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A (sad) tale of ethanol?? > > > > Write your reps in DC. They're all available via e-mail, and their staff > > actually reads and replies to them if you include your home mailing > > address. > > > > The administration has approved 15% ethanol in gas for 2001 and newer > cars. > > If you don't write your reps in the House & Senate, it's only going to > get > > worse. > > > > - Tom > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Steven Guterman > wrote: > > > > > It is called a very powerful farm lobby. Not only do they force the > use > of > > > ethanol, but they also restrict cheaper ethanol imports from Brazil > that > > > can > > > make the stuff at 1/2 the price using sugar cane. The final killer is > due > > > to the use of ethanol form corn, feed stock prices have gone up making > our > > > food more expensive. > > > > > > Misguided and stupid policy even if ethanol was good. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, derf wrote: > > > > > > > It irritates me that the government practically mandates it, and at > > > > the same time makes auto makers improve fuel mileage. > > > > I suppose we the people are subsidizing the crap, too. > > > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 19:00:04 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 21:00:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but still cool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The ZR1 engine does sound nice. Steve On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Nice lap of the Ring with a ZR1. > > http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110609/CARNEWS/110609854 > > BTW, I officially approve of this non-LBC video. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jun 9 19:01:49 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 21:01:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for the 50th In-Reply-To: <0D3131BA-B980-4867-9988-DBDCA701BF15@chartermi.net> References: <123D639C-569D-4CD0-990F-65F78C06CB45@chartermi.net> <4DEA6E37.6070807@wi.net> <0D3131BA-B980-4867-9988-DBDCA701BF15@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <2BF0E9C3-9922-4E3B-85FF-DE4928D8EDB6@chartermi.net> The lump runs! Installed a new battery, checked the oil and water, poured in three gallons of fresh gas and she started right up. No leaks, no funny noises. It needs some tuning, but I'm happy. I discovered that the engine is at least partially de-smogged as the air injection pump is gone. Rick Getting ready for the 50th...... Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Well the lump is a Triumph engine, but unfortunately not de-smogged. Has air injection, catalytic converter, all kinds of valves, and about 47 miles of vacuum lines. Poop. :-( > > Rick From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 21:18:17 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:18:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: <974CDC9E-5F75-4CEF-BE3C-A1C13E7CBDED@gmail.com> Phil, Speaking of Hagerty..... I just upgraded my towing coverage with Hagerty's best towing package. It turns out that all my owned cars are covered (not just the collector cars) for 125 miles of towing with unlimited number of tows per year. I also have AAA, but they only cover 3 tows per year.... With 3 Midgets on the road (and a fourth soon) and 5 other vehicles, all older than 1995, I feel a little more comfortable with this program ;) We often travel over 100 miles from home with the Midgets. Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Philip Nase wrote: > This is Hagerty's take: > > http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 23:39:05 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 00:39:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: <59245.65677.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <59245.65677.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron, Agreed, but you must have also let a few go. I've got a number of Piled Higher and Deeper colleagues whom I have a tremendous regard for but the point was that a PhD doesn't insure that you always have a gem. I'd say the mix is about 8 to 2 - quality to schmuck. As Buster said, the PhD only means that they have met some educational marker specialized in a narrow branch of education. It does NOT indicate the ability to apply that education of a productive, practical benefit to human kind. In short, there are some over-educated egg heads out there.... Cheers! Jim On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > You guys are hanging out with idiots. I know and hire very many Ph.Ds who > are > extremely productive, practical and,um, not prone to stereotyping people. > Severla have invented and developed technologies and products that have > changed your life and in some cases saved it or that of a love one. I > happen > to know one who is a renowned materials physicist, great musician, > house/barn/amplifier wirer, medal-winning horseman, and all-around great > brother, Dr. Bob. > > --- On Mon, 6/6/11, b-evans at earthlink.net > wrote: > > > From: b-evans at earthlink.net > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc > > To: > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 11:59 PM > > Jim Johnson > wrote: bWorked with > > a guy in Houston who had 4 separate PhD's > > by the time > he was 22. And they were in math and science!! > > We had to help him > > tie his > shoes > > and occasionally had to go show him how to get to where he > > lived.b&b > > > > Ah, you were lucky, Jim. After careers, among others, > > as a newspaper > reporter > > and editor, and as a cop, I went back to school to get my > > BA and > advanced > > degrees. After that I found myself on the history > > faculty at a > major > > university with 1,200 PhD. Now it must be remembered > > that a PhD > simply means > > that the person has simply done further study of a VERY > > > narrow subject within > > their discipline. (Mine was the influence on > > > Congressmen from districts with > > large free and slave negroes when voting on > race-related > > issues from > > 1830-1860.) For myself, I forbid my > > students > from addressing me as either > > bDoctorb or bProfessorb. bMr.b was fine by > me. > > (At one point, we > > hired a new Academic VP who refused to address > anyone as > > bDoctorb unless > > the person was a MEDICAL doctor. Unfortunately, > too > > many PhDbs let their > > ego take control, and they believe they are > expert on ALL > > issues, even outside > > their discipline. (Remember, those who > teach in > > grades K-12 must take courses > > in teaching and pass national and > State tests. PhDbs > > need no training to > > teach; just the PhD bunion > cardb. And, most > > have been institutionalized > > since they were 5--from > kindergarten to elementary school > > to junior high > > school to high school to > college to post-graduate > > university. Few have been > > out in the real world, > holding a job or meeting a > > payroll. Fewer still have > > served in the > military. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jun 10 00:47:21 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:47:21 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: Engine size? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" <> To: "Philip Nase" <>; "Spridgets at autox. team. Netspridgets" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC > Why do the Midget and the Sprite have different MPGs listed? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Nase > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 5:08 PM > To: Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC > > This is Hagerty's take: > > http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 10 02:46:24 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:46:24 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 49, Issue 39 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: re 1342 I seem to remember that when I was young and innocent I fitted the distributer in a mini 180 degrees out but also didn't realise that Number one cylinder was always at the radiator end of the engine, The engine ran fine for a few years until a garage mechanic helpfully re-fitted the ignition leads in the acceped order ! Alan Warwick UK MGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMG From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 10 02:50:11 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:50:11 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 49, Issue 38 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Re 1342 I seem to remember that when I was young and innocent I fitted the distributer in a mini 180 degrees out but also didn't realise that Number one cylinder was always at the radiator end of the engine, The engine ran fine for a few years until a garage mechanic helpfully re-fitted the ignition leads in the accepted order ! Alan Warwick UK 1958AHSprite1958AHSprite1958AHSprite1958AHSprite1958AHSprite1958AHSprite From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jun 10 04:29:20 2011 From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:29:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Hill Climb In-Reply-To: <4DE5AA64.9000402@verizon.net> References: <4DE5AA64.9000402@verizon.net> Message-ID: <23176.68795.qm@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Charlie, I know all the guys in the Top Gear challenge at Prescott as I hill climb with them. What did you want to know? Paul ________________________________ From: Charley Braum To: Spridgets Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 3:56:36 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Hill Climb Sorry if this has been addressed; Taking into account the Top Gear segment with the Bugeye racing the 'green thing' at Prescott Hill is there anyone from this list in that video? Thanks, CB _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk From lbc77mg at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 08:30:28 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:30:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: The Bugeye only had a 948cc engine and was limited in speed. Top speed was...oh...about...60? (Flame suit on.) The Midget pictured is a 1500cc and was the first Midget capable of 100 mph. (BTDT) Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Why do the Midget and the Sprite have different MPGs listed? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Nase > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 5:08 PM > To: Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC > > This is Hagerty's take: > > http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ From jfishbein at snet.net Fri Jun 10 09:07:57 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: <520438.71591.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> What planet you from? I've driven Bugeyes with unmodified 948's and stock rears at 85mph. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Allen Hefner The Bugeye only had a 948cc engine and was limited in speed. Top speed was...oh...about...60? From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Jun 10 09:11:15 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:11:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires Message-ID: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> In trying to order Sumitomo tires, it seems I cannot get any that are fresh. The HTR 200 are discontinued. The HTR 4 seem like a good choice but what I'm getting from Tire Rack and a few others is that the manufacture dates will be around 2009 or so. They claim, as do others in the industry that these are stored in climate controlled warehouses and should not be a worry, but I'm not sure I buy it. Sumitomo says their warranty is good from 6 years from date of manufacture or 5 years from date of purchase, whichever is longer. So this may lend some credibility to the argument. I do think it may be difficult to get fresh tires on these low demand sizes, though. I know I'll probably never put enough miles on the tires to wear them out before they rot from age. What do you think and who makes a 13" tire that is suitable and fresh? Thanks, Heard From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 09:18:53 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:18:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> Message-ID: I think previous Spridgets were capable of 100 MPH, maybe just not in stock trim. A 3.7 diff in a 59 Bugeye with a 5 speed will probably get you there. Or a stock 73 going down hill. From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jun 10 09:32:37 2011 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:32:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm back! Message-ID: <009a01cc2783$a10489d0$e30d9d70$@hky.com> My new computer managed to knock me off the List, a couple of months ago and I finally got back on last night. Upon arriving at Carlisle, a few weeks ago, I was shocked and deeply saddened to learn of Frank's passing. On the brighter side, I finally got my Midget out of hibernation, a week ago, and took it for a long day of mountain road driving, stopping at Indiana, PA to have the new Prestige top installed. My upholstery guy was impressed with the quality of the top and I'm delighted with the way it fits, and with the zip-out rear window feature. All I did to the Midget was a quick oil change and fluid level check before setting out, last Friday. As is traditional for that car, it never skipped a beat and was a total hoot to drive. I really screwed-up one of my knees earlier this spring, and getting in and out of a Midget, with the top up, is no longer something I do with ease. But, it's something I'll gladly deal with in order to drive Spridgets for at least a few more years (I hope). Hey, next week (assuming I can find time away from work), the new top will have been sufficiently stretched that I can put the top down, where I hope it will stay until early November, making getting in and out almost as easy as it was when I was young, dumb and immortal. Bud Osbourne From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jun 10 09:40:53 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:40:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget w/ Toyota 4AC project FS Cheap! Message-ID: <201106100840557.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1722153 In Oklahoma. I'd consider it, and that's just a symptom.... Read last latest post. Peter C From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 09:51:55 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:51:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> Message-ID: Tires have a shelf life. I do not consider storage in a climate controlled environment to extend the shelf life. They will undoubtedly be better than tires stored in direct sunlight, but a 5 year old tire is a 5 year old tire. I consider 7 years the outer limit of quality tire age. I liked the BFGs on wires, but YMMV especially if you are on steelies or alloys. If you don't drive your car much you might as well drive it like you stole it and wear out those treads. They won't be very good after 7 years, anyway. From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Jun 10 09:52:08 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <647871668.112372.1307721106136.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1387050026.112380.1307721128017.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Nexen ?? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heard Saxon" What do you think and who makes a 13" tire that is suitable and fresh? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Jun 10 09:53:45 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:53:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC Message-ID: <68e101cc2786$944d8130$0168010a@mail2world.com> Gotta say, I never have seen 35mpg in my 1500. Of course, more carb, more cam, and a lead foot probably don't help! -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Guy R Day [grday at btinternet.com] Sent: 6/10/2011 2:47:21 AM To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net;nases at verizon.net;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC Engine size? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" <> To: "Philip Nase" <>; "Spridgets at autox. team. Netspridgets" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC > Why do the Midget and the Sprite have different MPGs listed? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Nase > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 5:08 PM > To: Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC > > This is Hagerty's take: > > http://tinyurl.com/6729b7k > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu . From theshoe5 at comcast.net Fri Jun 10 10:04:30 2011 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:04:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] First You Tube video Message-ID: <0045D52DC824413E9EB65ADBCD235582@AlanPC> I was a little bored today so I tried my hand at posting a video to You Tube. I was going over the Sprite getting it ready to start driving again and figured why not. It's not the best, but give it a view anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6iuSpW2TzM Alan '59 Sprite From neilandcustom at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 10:11:01 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:11:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> Message-ID: <003201cc2789$008dfd50$01a9f7f0$@com> Heard, Here are two choices in Vredestein tires. I am considering the 165 size for my BE project if I ever get to the point of getting my car finished. I have Vredesteins on my Healey 3000 and have been very pleased with them. You may want to call Universal Tire to get the info on date of manufacture for their stock. https://www.universaltire.com/vredestein/155tr13-vredestein-sprint-blackwall .html https://www.universaltire.com/vredestein/165tr13-vredestein-sprint-blackwall .html Neil Anderson Illinois '60 3000 BT7 '59 Bugeye project -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:11 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In trying to order Sumitomo tires, it seems I cannot get any that are fresh. The HTR 200 are discontinued. The HTR 4 seem like a good choice but what I'm getting from Tire Rack and a few others is that the manufacture dates will be around 2009 or so. They claim, as do others in the industry that these are stored in climate controlled warehouses and should not be a worry, but I'm not sure I buy it. Sumitomo says their warranty is good from 6 years from date of manufacture or 5 years from date of purchase, whichever is longer. So this may lend some credibility to the argument. I do think it may be difficult to get fresh tires on these low demand sizes, though. I know I'll probably never put enough miles on the tires to wear them out before they rot from age. What do you think and who makes a 13" tire that is suitable and fresh? Thanks, Heard Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/neilandcustom at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 10:36:08 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:36:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] First You Tube video In-Reply-To: <0045D52DC824413E9EB65ADBCD235582@AlanPC> References: <0045D52DC824413E9EB65ADBCD235582@AlanPC> Message-ID: Nice. Your shop is quite well equipped? From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 10:40:25 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:40:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm back! In-Reply-To: <009a01cc2783$a10489d0$e30d9d70$@hky.com> References: <009a01cc2783$a10489d0$e30d9d70$@hky.com> Message-ID: Welcome back. Frank's passing was shocking and very, very saddening. We all miss him greatly. Other than that you missed a few good discussions on politics, racism, and other off topic stuff. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jun 10 10:41:26 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:41:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <003201cc2789$008dfd50$01a9f7f0$@com> References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> <003201cc2789$008dfd50$01a9f7f0$@com> Message-ID: <8DBCE2CCE1B14334A4189B2BD4B37AAF@spider> Are there American tires that would work? ...bill in corvallis ====================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Neil Anderson Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:11 AM To: 'Heard Saxon'; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires Heard, Here are two choices in Vredestein tires. I am considering the 165 size for my BE project if I ever get to the point of getting my car finished. I have Vredesteins on my Healey 3000 and have been very pleased with them. You may want to call Universal Tire to get the info on date of manufacture for their stock. https://www.universaltire.com/vredestein/155tr13-vredestein-sprint-blackwall .html https://www.universaltire.com/vredestein/165tr13-vredestein-sprint-blackwall .html Neil Anderson Illinois '60 3000 BT7 '59 Bugeye project -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Saxon Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:11 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In trying to order Sumitomo tires, it seems I cannot get any that are fresh. The HTR 200 are discontinued. The HTR 4 seem like a good choice but what I'm getting from Tire Rack and a few others is that the manufacture dates will be around 2009 or so. They claim, as do others in the industry that these are stored in climate controlled warehouses and should not be a worry, but I'm not sure I buy it. Sumitomo says their warranty is good from 6 years from date of manufacture or 5 years from date of purchase, whichever is longer. So this may lend some credibility to the argument. I do think it may be difficult to get fresh tires on these low demand sizes, though. I know I'll probably never put enough miles on the tires to wear them out before they rot from age. What do you think and who makes a 13" tire that is suitable and fresh? Thanks, Heard Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/neilandcustom at gmail.com Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Jun 10 11:29:45 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:29:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> Message-ID: <9c4a79$cfbd7l@email.mtu.edu> Heard, I bought 145x13's back in 2008. One source is: sportsnclassics at aol.com which quoted me about $60 per tire back then. I bought from Tires Unlimited, ltd. (Ohio, If I remember correctly) Here's part of a note from them: Anyway, here's how the Vredesteins shake out: Aspect ratio on ALL "hard" or European metrics is fixed at 80 percent. 145R13 Vredestein Sprint+ $53.30 (13 lbs.) each x 5 = $266.5 (65 lbs.) ER12/13 radial tubes $7.06 (1 lbs.) each x 5 = $35.30 (5 lbs.) Shipping 70 pounds to Midland, MI is $27.65 Total delivered price is $329.45 I bought tubes and rim liners from Moss because I have wire wheels. Ed (Just Brits) says the Vredestein is a well respected tire. I am happy with them too. Tim At 11:11 AM 6/10/2011, Heard Saxon wrote: >In trying to order Sumitomo tires, Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jun 10 12:08:20 2011 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:08:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm back! In-Reply-To: References: <009a01cc2783$a10489d0$e30d9d70$@hky.com> Message-ID: <000301cc2799$62b76f10$28264d30$@hky.com> I remember encouraging Frank, off-list, to come to Watkins Glen, last September, for the vintage festival & races. Had a nice visit with him @ Watkins Glen and he was definitely "hooked" and planning to attend this year's event. Damn.... Anyhow, at the time my computer bounced me off Spridget Talk, I was so busy with work (activity NOT AT ALL related to the economy, I might ad) that I just didn't have time to read anything but business related email. Whatever spare time I had was spent in my workshop thrashing on a '77 MGB for my wife to drive (it's now ready to assemble). While the off-topic stuff can be fun, on occasion, it does become a bit tedious by the end of the winter, before the cars come out of hibernation. That having been said, my garage cats are doing splendidly (the lazy buggers!) and my wife is very much enjoying the little Kel-Tec 32 that my sons gave her for Christmas ;) Bud -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:40 PM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm back! Welcome back. Frank's passing was shocking and very, very saddening. We all miss him greatly. Other than that you missed a few good discussions on politics, racism, and other off topic stuff. From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jun 10 12:14:26 2011 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:14:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes Message-ID: <000501cc279a$3bfb8d10$b3f2a730$@hky.com> While we are discussing tires, I'm pleased to report that I purchased five Michelin inner tubes from Coker Tire, a couple of months back, for the MGB I'm currently working on. The price was reasonable and the service was excellent. I know that genuine Michelin tubes can be pretty elusive, but they seem to hold up much better than the other stuff, of questionable origin & quality, that is out there now. Bud Osbourne From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 13:08:43 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:08:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes In-Reply-To: <000501cc279a$3bfb8d10$b3f2a730$@hky.com> References: <000501cc279a$3bfb8d10$b3f2a730$@hky.com> Message-ID: Yes, in the case of tires and tubes I think France > China. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 13:10:31 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm back! In-Reply-To: <000301cc2799$62b76f10$28264d30$@hky.com> References: <009a01cc2783$a10489d0$e30d9d70$@hky.com> <000301cc2799$62b76f10$28264d30$@hky.com> Message-ID: Oh, no. Not guns and cats! And you cleverly intersperse it with LBC content. You are going to give someone a fit. From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Jun 10 13:10:42 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:10:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cfbd7l@email.mtu.edu> References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> <9c4a79$cfbd7l@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <0f6901cc27a2$182a1ca0$487e55e0$@net> Interesting and good info. I'd like to hear of anyone buying any tires within the last 6 months or so to hear what kind of date codes they got. My gut feeling is the 13" tires are getting harder to find which is obviously a reflection on demand. Unfortunately, I think it will also be reflected in the date codes. Heard From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin at mtu.edu] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 1:30 PM To: Heard Saxon; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires Heard, I bought 145x13's back in 2008. One source is: sportsnclassics at aol.com which quoted me about $60 per tire back then. I bought from Tires Unlimited, ltd. (Ohio, If I remember correctly) Here's part of a note from them: Anyway, here's how the Vredesteins shake out: Aspect ratio on ALL "hard" or European metrics is fixed at 80 percent. 145R13 Vredestein Sprint+ $53.30 (13 lbs.) each x 5 = $266.5 (65 lbs.) ER12/13 radial tubes $7.06 (1 lbs.) each x 5 = $35.30 (5 lbs.) Shipping 70 pounds to Midland, MI is $27.65 Total delivered price is $329.45 I bought tubes and rim liners from Moss because I have wire wheels. Ed (Just Brits) says the Vredestein is a well respected tire. I am happy with them too. Tim At 11:11 AM 6/10/2011, Heard Saxon wrote: In trying to order Sumitomo tires, Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From bkitterer at me.com Fri Jun 10 15:00:50 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:00:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: <520438.71591.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <3A395D61-3C9D-4031-9347-6D6D449F4570@verizon.net> <520438.71591.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On the speedometer :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jay wrote: > What planet you from? > > I've driven Bugeyes with unmodified 948's and stock rears at 85mph. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Allen Hefner > > > The Bugeye only had a 948cc engine and was limited in speed. Top speed > was...oh...about...60? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From Miniac7 at aol.com Fri Jun 10 16:51:12 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:51:12 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Week - A Lap of Virginia Message-ID: <1d59.505a9b43.3b23f9e0@aol.com> As British Car Week drew to a close last weekend, a small but enthusiastic group of four from Mid Atlantic Minis participated in a fantastic two day classic Mini scenic drive through the Virginia countryside. Mileages and driving times varied as we all started out from different locations, but I was able to enjoy the longest drive of the group, at 20 hours including short rest stops, and 711 miles door to door. Starting out at 6am Saturday from Virginia Beach, which is in the southeastern corner of the state, I rendezvoused en route with another Mini driver as we ran up to northern Virginia, where we then met up with two additional Mini drivers before turning west and running out to Front Royal, which is in the northern central part of the state. From there we picked up the northernmost entry point of the breathtakingly scenic Skyline Drive, and headed south through Shenandoah National Park. As the park officially ends in the Charlottesville area, the road crosses over I-64 and continues southward as the Blue Ridge Parkway. During the drive along both of these scenic mountain top roads we were able to occasionally stop at some of the higher elevation overlooks in order to take in the scenery while stretching our legs and chatting with the many onlookers. We ended our first day of driving at the Peaks of Otter Lodge. This is an extremely laid back lodge which is situated right along the Parkway. The guest rooms have no TV, no phones, no internet and not even a clock radio. There's also no cell service anywhere in the vicinity. I was there 27 years ago, and nothing at all has changed since then. The place was perfect. Upon our arrival at 6pm we were able to enjoy a very relaxing early evening parking lot tire kicking session while enjoying plenty of cold libations, followed by a leisurely dinner, and then more parking lot socializing before turning in for the night. On the second day we continued south and exited the Parkway near Roanoke. >From there we traveled back eastward along many of the areas rolling and sometimes twisty two lane roads. It was at this point in the drive that we started to break off and head home in different directions. The route throughout the two days was comprised primarily of two and four lane secondary and rural roads, and Virginia Scenic Byways, with the exception of some of the busier roads as I returned closer to home. With the exception of a brief overnight shower, the weather was mostly mid to upper 80bs with clear blue skies the entire weekend. This was by far, the most enjoyable drive Ibve experienced in this car in 17 years of ownership. If any of you ever get the inkling to embark on a scenic drive in Virginia, and would like to take in Skyline Drive and/or the Blue Ridge Parkway, make sure you let me know, as I will go again in a flash. In fact, Ibm am currently in the early planning stages of a similar two day mountain top drive for Spridgets, around this time next year. To that end, Ibd like to hear from anyone in the general vicinity who like to consider joining me for a such a Spridget run during British Car Week 2012. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jun 10 18:07:38 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:07:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Tires In-Reply-To: <1965724920.20110610170659@pacifier.com> References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> <1965724920.20110610170659@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <162986302.20110610170738@pacifier.com> = Hello Heard, here is the most complete list of tires for sale in our size... http://www.buynewtires.com/ProductList.php?width=175&aspectRatio=70&diameter=13 -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" -- From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 18:44:33 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:44:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <59245.65677.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My high school electronics instructor (RIP my good friend) told us the way to remember college degrees in order is BS - well, we all know what that means MS - More of the Same PHD - Piled Higher and Deeper From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Jun 10 20:37:20 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye w/Kiddie Seat Message-ID: <622951.39911.qm@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://tinyurl.com/3w42e7x Ebay listing Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 21:28:39 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 23:28:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> Message-ID: Heard, Look into Kumho Solus KR21. I'm running them on my 71 Midget and my 91 Jetta. I'm pleased with them. They are a popular tire so you should be able to get them locally and fresh. Kevin On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > I > What do you think and who makes a 13" tire that is suitable and fresh? From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 21:45:12 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:45:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye w/Kiddie Seat In-Reply-To: <622951.39911.qm@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <622951.39911.qm@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Only 13 grand and they already got rid of those pesky dual carbs that are nothing but trouble. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:37 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/3w42e7x Ebay listing > > Rick From kmappley at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 21:59:51 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:59:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol!! Message-ID: Just thought you ethanol haters might be interested in knowing that I just read an article in a farm mag that mentioned that we are exporting millions of gallons of alcohol for fuel blending to BRAZIL! Seems they have had a short sugar cane crop and, due to the games played with international currencie's, our ethanol appears cheap!! BTW there minimum blend is 25%. Wife tossed the paper or I could tell you more. Kurt. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 23:13:48 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:13:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kurt, I am ambivalent about ethanol as a chemical. What I hate is politicians and bureaucrats mandating its use when they don't know what the heck they are doing. Interesting about sending our corn ethanol to Brazil. Unfortunately, co-opting feed/food corn to make ethanol is causing a lot of corn shortages throughout central America where corn is the staple instead of wheat. The result is poor people there are starting to go hungry because they can't afford the corn any more. For example, in Guatemala in May the cost of food stock corn went up 13% in a single week. But no biggie, eh? They can always go back to digging taro root in the jungles! Screw 'em! Our insane mandate of using a large part of our corn crop for corn based ethanol instead of food, then mixing it into our gasoline to result in a fuel that costs more, reduces mileage, drives up the cost of corn products, disrupts the food supply and damages our legacy vehicles is really paying off around the world, eh? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Just thought you ethanol haters might be interested in knowing that I just > read an article in a farm mag that mentioned that we are exporting millions > of gallons of alcohol for fuel blending to BRAZIL! Seems they have had a > short sugar cane crop and, due to the games played with international > currencie's, our ethanol appears cheap!! > BTW there minimum blend is 25%. > Wife tossed the paper or I could tell you more. > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jun 11 01:59:03 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:59:03 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes References: <000501cc279a$3bfb8d10$b3f2a730$@hky.com> Message-ID: <0333BC0012BD442199A7DD31DB182389@user8634b3d69b> Michelin may object to that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" <> To: "Bud Osbourne" <> Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes > Yes, in the case of tires and tubes I think France > China. > _______________________________________________ From abcoz at hky.com Sat Jun 11 11:34:16 2011 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:34:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Week - A Lap of Virginia In-Reply-To: <125ba.3e35bda1.3b2430a9@aol.com> References: <125ba.3e35bda1.3b2430a9@aol.com> Message-ID: <000901cc285d$c9f88a00$5de99e00$@hky.com> The touring I do, these days, takes two different forms: the first involves tours that provide amusement for the wives, and less time actually driving L. Still, because our group gets along so well and always likes to party, in the evenings; it's always lots of fun. The second type of touring I do is with a group of friends primarily from our local Triumph club. These guys are, like me, hard core drivers and the more distance involved, the greater the level of enjoyment. Our main event is our annual trek to the Watkins Glen Vintage Festival & Races, the weekend after Labor Day. There are actually three separate touring groups, due to differences in how much time we can take off from work, and the insistence of one group about having lunch at a certain Dive Bar in Jamestown, which puts them on the Lemming Lanes for most of the trip to Watkins Glen. The other two groups feel they are perfectly capable of finding their own damn Dive Bar around lunch time, so we stick to the back roads, entirely. The Jamestown-stop group and my group leave on Thursday morning, while the third group leaves on Friday morning. While it normally takes about 5 hours to drive to Watkins Glen, from the Pittsburgh area, we generally find a way to make an 8 to 10 hour drive out of it and have a total blast doing it. We stay at our B&B thru Monday morning, before splitting up into two groups. One takes a back roads route home to Pittsburgh, while the other group (retired guys have it nice!) head off into the Adirondacks & Catskills through NY and VT (looking for micro-breweries, primarily, I think) to this coming year's destination: the British Invasion at Stowe. Other destinations for this group (which travels under what we call the "Stutzman Rule"..no women) at various times of the year, have included Nova Scotia, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Elkhart Lake and several others which I can't recall right now. With either type of touring (with women and without women), we have found that smaller groups are always a lot more fun, for a variety of reasons besides safety. My philosophy is that a group of two (cars) can have just as much fun (more, probably) than a group of 5 or 10 can..and I've done it both ways enough times to have proven my theory ;) Bud From: Miniac7 at aol.com [mailto:Miniac7 at aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:45 PM To: abcoz at hky.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] British Car Week - A Lap of Virginia Absolutely, Bud...you've captured precisely the essence of our diving weekend. I can't get enough of this stuff. I just have one heck of a time finding enough people who want to spend that much time behind the wheel. Too many people enjoy storing, working and looking at them vs getting out and actually driving them. I really do hope to get some Spridgets out for our Lap next year. Howard From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 11:27:24 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 17:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] british leyland badges... on 74 Message-ID: <299479348.1776134.1307813244155.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Where does the British Leyland badge go on the passenger side of a 74 midget? I thought they were on the A pillar but in photos they are on the bottom of the fender by the A pillar above the rocker? Where is it supposed to be? Ryan From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jun 11 12:20:54 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:20:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> Message-ID: > The HTR 200 are discontinued. I got HTR 200's from tire rack about 5 months ago. The date code is 13th week of 2010. Tire Rack told me they were definitely still in production, but I had to wait a couple of weeks for them to be in stock. They had to ship them from a Tire Rack warehouse in Indiana to a Tire Rack warehouse in either Arizona or Nevada, and then on to California. If they'd told me they out of production, I'd have ordered another set. I hope you're wrong about this. The HTR 200 is the only safe tire I can find for my CRX. The other's I tried were all way too hard and had no grip at all. It's scary when I try to make a normal stop and all four wheels lock up. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jun 11 12:05:49 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:05:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] If you need another reason to drive your LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Why do the Midget and the Sprite have different MPGs listed? The midget was heavier. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sat Jun 11 13:53:47 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: References: <0f2501cc2780$a4d4d310$ee7e7930$@net> Message-ID: <224544.61103.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hey, I can't even find the Yokahama Avid T4 anymore. I bought a set a couple years ago of the 175/70R13 size for my Bugeye. What 175/70R13 tires are you guys going to now? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Spinger >________________________________ >From: Billy Zoom >To: Heard Saxon ; spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 11:20 AM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires > >> The HTR 200 are discontinued. >I got HTR 200's from tire rack about 5 months ago. The date code is 13th >week of 2010. Tire Rack told me they were definitely still in production, >but I had to wait a couple of weeks for them to be in stock. They had to >ship them from a Tire Rack warehouse in Indiana to a Tire Rack warehouse in >either Arizona or Nevada, and then on to California. If they'd told me they >out of production, I'd have ordered another set. I hope you're wrong about >this. The HTR 200 is the only safe tire I can find for my CRX. The other's I >tried were all way too hard and had no grip at all. It's scary when I try >to make a normal stop and all four wheels lock up. >BZ >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 13:57:25 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:57:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] british leyland badges... on 74 In-Reply-To: <299479348.1776134.1307813244155.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <299479348.1776134.1307813244155.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Badges? We don't need no stinking badges! Honestly, I have no idea. Don't have any on my '73. But my recollection is they were on the fender, not the A pillar. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:27 PM, wrote: > Where does the British Leyland badge go on the passenger side of a 74 midget? I thought they were on the A pillar but in photos they are on the bottom of the fender by the A pillar above the rocker? Where is it supposed to be? From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat Jun 11 14:04:27 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:04:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] british leyland badges... on 74 In-Reply-To: <299479348.1776134.1307813244155.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <299479348.1776134.1307813244155.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DF3CA4B.5030208@tx.rr.com> This is a 1973: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/Cars/Dsc_0016b.jpg > Where does the British Leyland badge go on the passenger side of a 74 midget? I thought they were on the A pillar but in photos they are on the bottom of the fender by the A pillar above the rocker? Where is it supposed to be? From bkitterer at me.com Sat Jun 11 14:21:56 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Road update - little LBC Message-ID: <177898E1-25C4-451C-9687-34BCBF1F8AD3@me.com> Hello Folks, We have just finished driving all of the Blue Ridge Parkway. What a drive, great weather and a lot of things blooming. We saw a big Healey, going the other way, this morning and a nice red SqBody Sprite yesterday, also going the other way. Tomorrow we take Skyline Drive through Shenandoah National Park. Then it will be a week or two in the D.C. area before moving on to eastern PA. Every one take care, be safe Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 11 14:33:49 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:33:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] british leyland badges... on 74 In-Reply-To: <299479348.1776134.1307813244155.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <299479348.1776134.1307813244155.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <7ECD548B49324EB49757AFA304228186@HomePC> Ryan, P. 90 of Horler says there was a stick on motif at the rear, lower corner of the passenger wing only. -----Original Message----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 12:27 PM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] british leyland badges... on 74 Where does the British Leyland badge go on the passenger side of a 74 midget? I thought they were on the A pillar but in photos they are on the bottom of the fender by the A pillar above the rocker? Where is it supposed to be? Ryan Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jun 11 14:43:38 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <224544.61103.qm@web180607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > What 175/70R13 tires are you guys going to now? Email Tire Rack about HTR 200's. They weren't listed on the site the last time I bought them either, but I had no trouble getting them and they were about 9 months old. They're incredibly good tires BTW. BZ From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jun 11 16:48:22 2011 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:48:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcage Tranny Message-ID: <505E80BF-A41D-4529-A9E1-C7842497BC93@ado13.com> What problems will be created by using 90wt gear oil in a Ribcage? A friend just purchased a parts car and the tranny has 90wt in it. Don't know the history of the car as to how long it was in there. Larry Miller From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 18:08:11 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:08:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes In-Reply-To: <000501cc279a$3bfb8d10$b3f2a730$@hky.com> References: <000501cc279a$3bfb8d10$b3f2a730$@hky.com> Message-ID: <1B69D84355C74A4BB7D0B094196CE3C1@blackbox2> Napa sells a good tube. It's made by Kenda and goes for around $14. The tubes that Moss sells for $20 are junk. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Osbourne Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:14 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes While we are discussing tires, I'm pleased to report that I purchased five Michelin inner tubes from Coker Tire, a couple of months back, for the MGB I'm currently working on. The price was reasonable and the service was excellent. I know that genuine Michelin tubes can be pretty elusive, but they seem to hold up much better than the other stuff, of questionable origin & quality, that is out there now. Bud Osbourne Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 20:41:45 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:41:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcage Tranny In-Reply-To: <505E80BF-A41D-4529-A9E1-C7842497BC93@ado13.com> References: <505E80BF-A41D-4529-A9E1-C7842497BC93@ado13.com> Message-ID: I have heard that the sulfur content of the 90wt, is bad for the brass parts of the transmission. On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > What problems will be created by using 90wt gear oil in a Ribcage? > > A friend just purchased a parts car and the tranny has 90wt in it. Don't > know > the history of the car as to how long it was in there. > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 20:43:15 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcage Tranny In-Reply-To: <505E80BF-A41D-4529-A9E1-C7842497BC93@ado13.com> References: <505E80BF-A41D-4529-A9E1-C7842497BC93@ado13.com> Message-ID: If they did not know to run motor oil in there then they likely didn't know how to keep it running. The only way to tell anything, though, is to look inside. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jun 11 20:48:38 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:48:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcage Tranny In-Reply-To: <505E80BF-A41D-4529-A9E1-C7842497BC93@ado13.com> References: <505E80BF-A41D-4529-A9E1-C7842497BC93@ado13.com> Message-ID: <1001999261.20110611194838@pacifier.com> Hello Larry, http://lbc.gotstogo.com/weblogbf1/archives/transmission/index.php?page=32 -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" A day without sunshine is like night. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 21:33:45 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 03:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] I need top and tonneau suggestions Message-ID: <2146438096.1790067.1307849625006.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> So if i remember correctly a robbins top is the best?B but who should I get a full tonneau from?B if you have any suggestions for either please let me know.B Looking for a 74 midget with headrests. thanks, Ryan From kmappley at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 03:43:10 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:43:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol!!! Message-ID: Jim and others: It is wayyyy too simplistic to blame hungry people in central america on ethanol! First let me say that only a tiny fraction of yellow corn is used for human consumption. Secondly when alcohol is distilled from corn only the starch is taken out and a large part of the corn becomes a high protein feed. Last I heard the human food chain world wide was awash in starch. Then you need to look at history. 30 years ago Mexico and other central american countries were self sufficient in maize. Then we came up with GATT! Tens of thousands of small farmers were put out of business while ADM, Cargill and our other grain giants exported US corn to them that we were being payed to produce at below our cost of production. The number of folks that swam the river correlates closely with the number of dispossessed farmers from south of the border. Now ADM is the largest taco producer in that region. The main problem with costs is the world money games that have suddenly made everything we produce look cheap to most of the world. The countries that haven't bought into the "free market at any cost" game (china) seem to be doing best. Kurt. From kmappley at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 03:55:17 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:55:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale on ethanol!!! Message-ID: Jim: BTW I agree with you on your position on irrigated land. Put me in charge and there would be a tax on any depleting resource including water!! Wonder if the group was aware that the mining business gets to depreciate there mine for tax purposes. This just seems WRONG! They are using up natural resources and getting a tax break for doing so. Kurt. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 06:08:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:08:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Cell gas tank for Spridgets. In-Reply-To: <20110607.114046.27533.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20110607.114046.27533.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Wow Mark sounds cool I'll do both when it finally stops raining : ) I know Frank looked under Pinky when I got her and liked the upgraded differential. I'll get the numbers and try the turning. Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Lin- on the outside of the pumpkin-passengers side stamped into the pumpkin > flange (not the rear end) there should be a set of numbers such as 9/38 > (4.22). As long as no one has changed to ring and pinion, then this applies. > However, some of us are (or have been) able to locate ratios like 5.38:1 , > 4.88:1, 3.9:1 or even 3.7:1 and put them into the pumpkins. The best way to > verify is to mark the inside of a tire, turn the driveshaft and count the > tire rotations. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:50:25 -0400 > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: an5.sprite at gmail.com > Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, spridgets > > > > Steve I was not a good student of Franks but how do you read your pumpkin > to > see what rear you have? Frank said mine was better than stock but didn't > see > exactly where he read the numbers. Should have asked Frank when I was > prepping Holy Sprites rear : ) > > Jim don't worry I'll be scared of the $$$$ lost and slowly be back with my > tail between my legs ; ) > Lin > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Penny Stock Jumping 3000% > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dee62e59ab802f8371st04duc From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 06:19:01 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:19:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc In-Reply-To: References: <9577939.1307422798870.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <384425.70251.qm@web112705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: None taken Brian : ) Lin On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:11 PM, brian S wrote: > but chuck, > remember, those that can't do, teach.....:-) > > Above statement not meant to offend any of the teachers on THIS List. > > ducking... > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank C. > > > > > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 04:49:53 -0700 > > From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc > > > > this is all very true. in my family i'm the "black sheep" getting dirty > > working on cars. family members included college math professor , high > > school > > teacher with three degrees , elementry library head for a large > > (multiple > > schools) district , 4th grade nstructor , high school chemestry > > instructor and a > > few engineers(not the rail road type!). family gatherings > > were on a very > > unusual level of conversation that i really never "got". > > but the point to be > > made is the concentration on higher level jobs or people > > with "genius" status > > seems to be that the concentration or focus or direction > > is so intense that > > everything else falls into a severe background > > priority. my aunt purchased > > all her clother in tones of one color as she > > could not decide what to wear , and > > simple tasks like cleaning house was just > > impossible to do. i've seen pretty > > much "all" in the oddities in smart > > people. but the hardest part is not > > picking up after them! it's existing > > with them! since childhood i've been > > told i'm not applying myself. that > > came from my family members. because i > > did not function on their expected > > level i was frequetly chastised by them. > > watch , learn and live! yeah i > > have crappy speling and cannot find the darn > > "caps lock" fer the life of me > > but i can rebuild a motorcycle in my livingroom > > and do a spridget engine on > > my desk. (did both at difrent times in my life. > > now all deligated to the > > shop......gives way to harmony in the home....see i > > learned something!) > > :) > > > > chuck. > > off to small engine repair world for fun and profit! > > and why did > > my college pschyc. prof always smell like pot.........? nawwww , he > > could > > not have ...he's the instructor...right? > > ________________________________ > > From: Linda Grunthaner > > To: Jim Johnson > > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Sent: Tue, > > June 7, 2011 6:25:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Obama Genius, Etc > > > > I was > > horrified when I finally got back to college (at 27 years old) that my > > professors did not even have one teaching class, nor was it required. > Hummm > > maybe that is why I had difficulty figuring out what they were trying to > > explain ; ) I wish all students were notified of that when they started > > college so they don't beat up on themselves when they drop out. > > Lin > > _________ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jun 12 06:47:51 2011 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:47:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I need top and tonneau suggestions In-Reply-To: <2146438096.1790067.1307849625006.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2146438096.1790067.1307849625006.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000c01cc28fe$f1fa2ad0$d5ee8070$@hky.com> Try Prestige, in the UK. I got a new top from them, last year, for my '72 Midget and finally got around to getting it installed last week. My upholstery guy was impressed with the material and quality. He also mentioned that he'd installed a new Robbins top, on a TR, recently and discovered that the quality had slipped down a few pegs (stuff no longer lined-up the way it was supposed to.......a speed bump for an experienced upholstery guy, but could spell disaster for a novice). I found Prestige's prices to be VERY competitive and their delivery service was excellent. I am quite pleased with my new top. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 11:34 PM To: spridgets Cc: EasternOshitGroup Subject: [Spridgets] I need top and tonneau suggestions So if i remember correctly a robbins top is the best?B but who should I get a full tonneau from?B if you have any suggestions for either please let me know.B Looking for a 74 midget with headrests. thanks, Ryan From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jun 12 07:00:43 2011 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:00:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes In-Reply-To: <1B69D84355C74A4BB7D0B094196CE3C1@blackbox2> References: <000501cc279a$3bfb8d10$b3f2a730$@hky.com> <1B69D84355C74A4BB7D0B094196CE3C1@blackbox2> Message-ID: <002c01cc2900$be20c820$3a625860$@hky.com> I'm VERY reluctant to use any but genuine Michelin tubes, since they have been proven to be the best quality, longest lasting, most reliable tube with wire wheels. With so much manufacturing of everything being move to the Pacific Rim, I'm just plain paranoid about putting any off-brand tube on my car. Remember (was this The Clarici Rule?): if it's made in China and has moving parts (every square inch of an inner tube moves, after all), it's gonna have a very short service life compared to the same item made in USA or Europe. So, I paid a bit more for peace of mind. Bud -----Original Message----- From: Dean Hedin [mailto:dlh2001 at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:08 PM To: 'Bud Osbourne'; 'Spridgets' Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes Napa sells a good tube. It's made by Kenda and goes for around $14. The tubes that Moss sells for $20 are junk. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Osbourne Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:14 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Michelin inner tubes While we are discussing tires, I'm pleased to report that I purchased five Michelin inner tubes from Coker Tire, a couple of months back, for the MGB I'm currently working on. The price was reasonable and the service was excellent. I know that genuine Michelin tubes can be pretty elusive, but they seem to hold up much better than the other stuff, of questionable origin & quality, that is out there now. Bud Osbourne From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jun 12 07:43:00 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol!!! In-Reply-To: <1389288567.75087.1307885754339.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1362645372.75164.1307886180910.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> As an example, just one of the poultry farms in California feeds 13,000 ton of corn per day. Kate Jim and others: It is wayyyy too simplistic to blame hungry people in central america on ethanol! First let me say that only a tiny fraction of yellow corn is used for human consumption. Secondly when alcohol is distilled from corn only the starch is taken out and a large part of the corn becomes a high protein feed. From jfishbein at snet.net Sun Jun 12 08:44:36 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:44:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I need top and tonneau suggestions In-Reply-To: <000c01cc28fe$f1fa2ad0$d5ee8070$@hky.com> References: <2146438096.1790067.1307849625006.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <000c01cc28fe$f1fa2ad0$d5ee8070$@hky.com> Message-ID: eBay. Especially for later Midget stuff. Jay -An iPhone communication- > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 11:34 PM > To: spridgets > Cc: EasternOshitGroup > Subject: [Spridgets] I need top and tonneau suggestions > > So if i remember correctly a robbins top is the best?B but who should I get > a full tonneau from?B if you have any suggestions for either please let me > know.B Looking for a 74 midget with headrests. > > thanks, From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 14:02:55 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:02:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kurt, I agree it is way too simple to blame hunger on only one issue, corn for fuel, however, it is impossible to argue that the use of ethanol for fuel did not make food prices increase. I agree very little corn is consumed directly by humans, but that ignores the use of corn as feed stock and the use of corn derivatives like fructos or corn flour that are used heavily. We obviously eat plenty of meat that was fattened with corn. When corn prices increase meat prices must follow. It is also impossible to say that corn planted for ethanol production did not displace other crops. Just compare the acreage devoted to growing corn today versus a decade ago. I am sure the increase is highly correlated to the use of corn based fuels. Bottom line there is no escaping the fact that food is more expensive because of ethanol. The cheapness of the dollar is also very straight forward, we buy more than we sell. We have a HUGE trade gap with the middle east. This is one of the most dangerous long term issue for the US. Every time we fill up our cars at the pump we are sending $$ to countries that do not care if we exist at best or wish to eliminate us at worst. This is where it gets real complicated, because the more corn fuel we use the less petro fuel is needed. In this regard corn fuel is a really good thing. Overall I am not sure where I come out on this balance, except to say the only win-win is reduction in usage through higher efficiency. Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Appley Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:43:10 To: Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol!!! Jim and others: It is wayyyy too simplistic to blame hungry people in central america on ethanol! First let me say that only a tiny fraction of yellow corn is used for human consumption. Secondly when alcohol is distilled from corn only the starch is taken out and a large part of the corn becomes a high protein feed. Last I heard the human food chain world wide was awash in starch. Then you need to look at history. 30 years ago Mexico and other central american countries were self sufficient in maize. Then we came up with GATT! Tens of thousands of small farmers were put out of business while ADM, Cargill and our other grain giants exported US corn to them that we were being payed to produce at below our cost of production. The number of folks that swam the river correlates closely with the number of dispossessed farmers from south of the border. Now ADM is the largest taco producer in that region. The main problem with costs is the world money games that have suddenly made everything we produce look cheap to most of the world. The countries that haven't bought into the "free market at any cost" game (china) seem to be doing best. Kurt. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From nases at verizon.net Sun Jun 12 17:24:10 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:24:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07742903-F166-43DE-A31F-83DFF8BDE967@verizon.net> Are these the tires you like? I need a new set for a Bugeye. http://tinyurl.com/5vcsue6 Phil Nase Quakertown, PA home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> What 175/70R13 tires are you guys going to now? > Email Tire Rack about HTR 200's. They weren't listed on the site the last > time I bought them either, but I had no trouble getting them and they were > about 9 months old. They're incredibly good tires BTW. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From nases at verizon.net Sun Jun 12 17:33:50 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:33:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <07742903-F166-43DE-A31F-83DFF8BDE967@verizon.net> References: <07742903-F166-43DE-A31F-83DFF8BDE967@verizon.net> Message-ID: <96BEE8DE-F2C0-4EE9-9ADF-708BCB5DC76F@verizon.net> I see now these are all seasons. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 12, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Phil Nase wrote: > Are these the tires you like? I need a new set for a Bugeye. > > http://tinyurl.com/5vcsue6 > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > >>> What 175/70R13 tires are you guys going to now? >> Email Tire Rack about HTR 200's. They weren't listed on the site the last >> time I bought them either, but I had no trouble getting them and they were >> about 9 months old. They're incredibly good tires BTW. >> BZ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 18:56:30 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:56:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) tale of ethanol!!! In-Reply-To: <20110612220838.20B5F187943@autox.team.net> References: <20110612220838.20B5F187943@autox.team.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM, wrote: > > > It is also impossible to say that corn planted for ethanol production did > not displace other crops. Just compare the acreage devoted to growing corn > today versus a decade ago. I am sure the increase is highly correlated to > the use of corn based fuels. > Precisely, Kate. Around here (western high plains in general) it used to be rare to see corn growing. Since the push for ethanol fuels and the corresponding rise in value of a bushel of corn, we now have way more corn than wheat!!! Worse yet, it is "irrigated" corn in an area where water is scarce and the Ogallala Aquifer is now shrinking at an accelerated rate. Let's now watch the cost of wheat products in the stores start climbing!! > Bottom line there is no escaping the fact that food is more expensive > because of ethanol. > Amen. -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kmappley at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 22:29:54 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:29:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re A (sad) Tale of Ethanol!! Message-ID: I'm not interested in getting into any long arguments and I'm sure the group isn't either. I simply wanted to point out that not everything is the fault of ethanol. I concede that, of course, if you increase the consumption of any commodity you will have an upward bias on the price. However there are other factors. For one, this country has had a short corn crop because of the weather now for several years. (Global warming???). This year very little corn got planted in Ohio,Indiana, and Illinois. Much of the rest of the corn belt has a lot of drowned fields and over next to me the Missouri river is in the process of taking a bunch more. So the guys out in Jim's country are going to clean up. A couple years of good corn crops and the low prices that will go with that and I'm guessing there will be more wheat planted in western Kansas. BTW the stock market had a big one day rally lat week when they learned how great our EXPORTS had been. We haven't exported anything since the 70's. Kurt. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jun 12 22:33:09 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:33:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <07742903-F166-43DE-A31F-83DFF8BDE967@verizon.net> Message-ID: > Are these the tires you like? I need a new set for a Bugeye. I've never tried those. I like the HTR 200's. That's their performance tire. BZ From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jun 13 06:59:26 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <07742903-F166-43DE-A31F-83DFF8BDE967@verizon.net> References: <07742903-F166-43DE-A31F-83DFF8BDE967@verizon.net> Message-ID: <106401cc29c9$b9fccea0$2df66be0$@net> This is actually what I ended up buying. And I bought them from Tire Rack. But they are not new. Date codes of 2009. I specifically tried to order the HTR200s since that is what Frank had recommended, but Tire Rack told me they couldn't get them. I told them Sumitomo still listed them on their site, but TR was no help. It may have just been the guy I was dealing with. I can't tell you anything really about how the HTR 4s drive or handle, since I have no seats in the car. They look good, but we'll see. I did notice however, that if I lock the steering to either side, they will rub on the frame. What does one do about this issue, if anything? Heard From: Phil Nase [mailto:nases at verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:24 PM To: Billy Zoom Cc: Michael MacLean; Heard Saxon; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tires Are these the tires you like? I need a new set for a Bugeye. http://tinyurl.com/5vcsue6 Phil Nase Quakertown, PA home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: What 175/70R13 tires are you guys going to now? Email Tire Rack about HTR 200's. They weren't listed on the site the last time I bought them either, but I had no trouble getting them and they were about 9 months old. They're incredibly good tires BTW. BZ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jun 13 07:20:50 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:20:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground Message-ID: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> With the list's help, I'm almost there. This weekend's tasks: Pulled the mechanical fuel pump and got it to stop leaking. I think I've stopped the gas tank leak. Geesh! This car is leaking everywhere. Put the correct spark plugs in the car and synced the carbs. I think they may still be a little rich. Got the wheels back on and put it back on the ground for the first time in many months. Replaced the headlight pigtails and installed the front grille to get ready to put the hood back on. Finally got the steering wheel ready to paint. I had to fill in some worn areas so the horn button would stay in. I even had some time left over to go the range and fire a hundred rounds. All that is left to start driving is getting the seats re-upholstered. I've already welded up the seat pans and blasted and painted the pans, backs, and frames. Heard From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jun 13 10:11:39 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:11:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires In-Reply-To: <106401cc29c9$b9fccea0$2df66be0$@net> Message-ID: Like I said... > Email Tire Rack about HTR 200's. They weren't listed on the site the last > time I bought them either, but I had no trouble getting them They were still getting fresh shipments of them in December, but I had to email Tire Rack and ask. Unless the earthquake has delayed shipments, they should still have them. BZ From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 10:30:05 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:30:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground In-Reply-To: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> References: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> Message-ID: Heard, I've rebuilt a bunch of these mechanical fuel pumps, although original rebuild kits are getting hard to find these days. Drop me a line and I can send some info and pictures. Cheers, Curt '60 AN5 :{) On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Heard Saxon wrote: > With the list's help, I'm almost there. This weekend's tasks: > > Pulled the mechanical fuel pump and got it to stop leaking. > I think I've stopped the gas tank leak. Geesh! This car is leaking > everywhere. > Put the correct spark plugs in the car and synced the carbs. I think they > may still be a little rich. > Got the wheels back on and put it back on the ground for the first time in > many months. > Replaced the headlight pigtails and installed the front grille to get ready > to put the hood back on. > Finally got the steering wheel ready to paint. I had to fill in some worn > areas so the horn button would stay in. > > I even had some time left over to go the range and fire a hundred rounds. > > All that is left to start driving is getting the seats re-upholstered. > I've > already welded up the seat pans and blasted and painted the pans, backs, > and > frames. > > Heard > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Jun 13 13:32:58 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground In-Reply-To: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> References: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> Message-ID: <523917.66970.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Oooh, what were you shooting? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer >________________________________ > >I even had some time left over to go the range and fire a hundred rounds. > > > > >Heard >_______________________________________________ From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jun 13 14:16:23 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:16:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground In-Reply-To: <523917.66970.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> <523917.66970.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <110f01cc2a06$c47ba670$4d72f350$@net> Springfield EMP in 9mm. Wife was shooting a Berretta Cheetah in .380. From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:33 PM To: Heard Saxon; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground Oooh, what were you shooting? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer _____ I even had some time left over to go the range and fire a hundred rounds. Heard _______________________________________________ From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 13 14:41:54 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:41:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol - one last time Message-ID: <4DF67612.2060905@sbcglobal.net> OK, I thought (hoped) we were done with the ethanol discussion, but I just had to share this. This article just appeared on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch web site about a vote scheduled for Tuesday on ending the subsidy to corn for ethanol production. It seems that even the deficit hawks are having a tough time doing what is right. Any you thought this stuff was just bad for Spridgets. From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Jun 13 15:25:13 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground In-Reply-To: <110f01cc2a06$c47ba670$4d72f350$@net> References: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> <523917.66970.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <110f01cc2a06$c47ba670$4d72f350$@net> Message-ID: <971772.30694.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Wish I had time to go shoot. Lots of guns just sitting in the safe. I am looking for a Broomhandle Mauser in original caliber and will consider "Red Nine" if anyone has a line on one. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer >________________________________ >From: Heard Saxon >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:16 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground > >Springfield EMP in 9mm. Wife was shooting a Berretta Cheetah in .380. > > >From: Michael MacLean [mailto:rrengineer.mike at att.net] >Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:33 PM >To: Heard Saxon; spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground > >Oooh, what were you shooting? > >Mike MacLean >60 Sprite >56 BN2 >02 Heritage Springer > > > _____ > > > > >I even had some time left over to go the range and fire a hundred rounds. > > > > >Heard >_______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 16:41:20 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:41:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground In-Reply-To: <110f01cc2a06$c47ba670$4d72f350$@net> References: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> <523917.66970.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <110f01cc2a06$c47ba670$4d72f350$@net> Message-ID: <49E4B495-0376-42E3-AECC-A6CD8803AB1A@gmail.com> On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Heard Saxon wrote: > Springfield EMP in 9mm. Wife was shooting a Berretta Cheetah in .380. There's either a joke or a news story in there somewhere ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 19:51:47 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:51:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE is back on the ground In-Reply-To: <971772.30694.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <106c01cc29cc$b7494000$25dbc000$@net> <523917.66970.qm@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <110f01cc2a06$c47ba670$4d72f350$@net> <971772.30694.qm@web180611.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: Wish I had time to go shoot. Lots of guns just sitting in the safe. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- I'm going to the range on Wednesday to see how some new loads work and to requalify for my HR 218 (Federal) CCW permit on Thursday. I'll be shooting a couple of 9mms, a 45 and a 22. I've been pondering buying a subgun now that I have more time to reload! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jun 13 20:04:43 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:04:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1947 Singer & MG Midget Message-ID: <9c4a79$cg95tu@email.mtu.edu> Pic from the 2011 Royal Cornwall Show at Wadebridge in England - a red 1947 Singer Nine Roadster & a MG Midget. Pics go away tomorrow, Tuesday p.m. http://www.cornwallcam.co.uk/ Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jun 13 20:30:50 2011 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:30:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: British Car shows In-Reply-To: <162508.78064.qm@web126005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <162508.78064.qm@web126005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002801cc2a3b$13d895a0$3b89c0e0$@rr.com> I'll probably be at the Sussex, WI British Car Field Day this Sunday. http://mg3club.org/wp-content/uploads/BCFD%20Form%202011.pdf No affiliation, just 10 minutes from home. Chris From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian McElroy Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:12 PM To: MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Cc: Donald Henderson Subject: [midgetsprite] Fw: Fwd: British Car shows [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Brian McElroy included below] For those in he Delaware and Maryland areas here are two great shows you may want to check out. I'll be posting the attachments on the group files or photos section of the group just in caase he attachments do not go through. From: "Donald Henderson" To: bmce861911 at comcast.net Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:13:36 PM Subject: British Car shows Could you pass along about two shows in Delaware/Maryland. British Car Gathering Elk Landing Maryland June 26 Sunday This is a gathering to promote the historic grounds. The house will be opened. British Car Show Delaware City Delaware Sat Sept 17, first 75 pre reg cars get a free t-shirt Cheers, Don Henderson President British Car Club of Delaware Attachment(s) from Brian McElroy 1 of 1 Photo(s) Image removed by sender. Elk-Landing-BCCD-June-Show.jpg Elk-Landing-BCCD-June-Show.jpg 1 of 1 File(s) Image removed by sender. decity2011.pdf __._,_.___ Image removed by sender. Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ~WRD000.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jun 13 22:59:03 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: British Car shows In-Reply-To: <002801cc2a3b$13d895a0$3b89c0e0$@rr.com> References: <162508.78064.qm@web126005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <002801cc2a3b$13d895a0$3b89c0e0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <54936.184.205.70.211.1308027543.squirrel@wm.wi.net> I should probably go to that but will be at the Milwaukee Mile for IRL race. DW > I'll probably be at the Sussex, WI British Car Field Day this Sunday. > > > > http://mg3club.org/wp-content/uploads/BCFD%20Form%202011.pdf > > > > No affiliation, just 10 minutes from home. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of Brian McElroy > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:12 PM > To: MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > Cc: Donald Henderson > Subject: [midgetsprite] Fw: Fwd: British Car shows [2 Attachments] > > > > [Attachment(s) from Brian McElroy included below] > > > > > For those in he Delaware and Maryland areas here are two great shows you > may > want to check out. > > > > I'll be posting the attachments on the group files or photos section of > the > group just in caase he attachments do not go through. > > > From: "Donald Henderson" > To: bmce861911 at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:13:36 PM > Subject: British Car shows > > Could you pass along about two shows in Delaware/Maryland. > > British Car Gathering Elk Landing Maryland June 26 Sunday This is a > gathering to promote the historic grounds. 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Groups Terms of Use > | Unsubscribe > > > > > > > __,_._,___ > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > ~WRD000.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image001.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jun 14 02:28:17 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:28:17 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] 1947 Singer & MG Midget References: <9c4a79$cg95tu@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <51FCDB82E5024BED83A3609EC80E34E4@user8634b3d69b> Is that an A30 or A35 behind the Singer? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Collins" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:04 AM Subject: [Spridgets] 1947 Singer & MG Midget > Pic from the 2011 Royal Cornwall Show at Wadebridge in England - a red > 1947 Singer Nine Roadster & a MG Midget. Pics go away tomorrow, Tuesday > p.m. > http://www.cornwallcam.co.uk/ > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From teachjp at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 05:26:37 2011 From: teachjp at gmail.com (John Poynton) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:26:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: British Car shows In-Reply-To: <002801cc2a3b$13d895a0$3b89c0e0$@rr.com> References: <162508.78064.qm@web126005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <002801cc2a3b$13d895a0$3b89c0e0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Is anyone aware of any shows in the Newcastle upon Tyne area this Sunday, I'll be visiting friends for the next few weeks????? Thanks, JP On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Chris Manuel wrote: > I'll probably be at the Sussex, WI British Car Field Day this Sunday. > > > > http://mg3club.org/wp-content/uploads/BCFD%20Form%202011.pdf > > > > No affiliation, just 10 minutes from home. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of Brian McElroy > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:12 PM > To: MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > Cc: Donald Henderson > Subject: [midgetsprite] Fw: Fwd: British Car shows [2 Attachments] > > > > [Attachment(s) from Brian McElroy included below] > > > > > For those in he Delaware and Maryland areas here are two great shows you > may > want to check out. > > > > I'll be posting the attachments on the group files or photos section of the > group just in caase he attachments do not go through. > > > From: "Donald Henderson" > To: bmce861911 at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:13:36 PM > Subject: British Car shows > > Could you pass along about two shows in Delaware/Maryland. > > British Car Gathering Elk Landing Maryland June 26 Sunday This is a > gathering to promote the historic grounds. 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Message-ID: <455319336.1899132.1308059891575.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have your award for 3rd place at the Hellertown car show.B And no it is not a billion kugorans that need a small exhange fee before I can process your award. Ryan Kubanoff From kmappley at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 11:59:30 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:59:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Tire's! Message-ID: My local tire guy got me a set of the all season Sumitomo's and I don't care for them. Way to soft in the side walls and squirrelly because of that. Kurt From haynes386 at netzero.net Tue Jun 14 12:54:47 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:54:47 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Re Tire's! Message-ID: <20110614.125447.7960.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> I'm putting a set of the Kumho KR22s onto one of my daily drivers, I'll let everyone know if they're crap or not- the last set of Kumhos that I had were great tires, but they were on a daily driver also. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4df7afe627fe346dd8ast06duc From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jun 14 13:07:42 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:07:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Tire's! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Way to soft in the side walls and squirrelly because of that. You have to run more pressure than with regular tires. They're rated at 51psi. I run 40 front/38 rear on my CRX. BZ From heard at datatrontech.net Tue Jun 14 13:33:37 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:33:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Tire's! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <121b01cc2ac9$f59c0e20$e0d42a60$@net> Good to know. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:08 PM To: Kurt Appley; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re Tire's! > Way to soft in the side walls and squirrelly because of that. You have to run more pressure than with regular tires. They're rated at 51psi. I run 40 front/38 rear on my CRX. BZ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From haynes386 at netzero.net Tue Jun 14 13:44:17 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:44:17 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! Message-ID: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Does anyone (Frankie?) know EXACTLY how Frank attached the spare axle to the inner fender well, and EXACTLY where? I originally thought that he had put it over the passenger's legs with the flange towards the cockpit, obviously I was mistaken, and how did he cable tie it down if he ran it over the inner front wheel well (this would be harder on a MKII on than on a BE). Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4df7ba5eb1b5147056bst04duc From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:21:46 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:21:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> References: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: > Does anyone (Frankie?) know EXACTLY how Frank attached the spare axle to the > inner fender well, and EXACTLY where? I originally thought that he had put it > over the passenger's legs with the flange towards the cockpit, obviously I was > mistaken, and how did he cable tie it down if he ran it over the inner front > wheel well (this would be harder on a MKII on than on a BE). Someone (Frankie?) could take a picture... David L From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:21:45 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:21:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> References: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: "Ever since I snapped an axle 2 hours from home, I carry a spare, it is zip tied under the right front inner fender but I have never needed it." From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:50:34 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:50:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: References: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: > "Ever since I snapped an axle 2 hours from home, I carry a spare, it > is zip tied under the right front inner fender but I have never needed > it." Wouldn't critical portions of it be prone to rust there? David L From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 14 14:52:48 2011 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack boots In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF7CA20.8040607@sbcglobal.net> Has anyone had trouble with the Moss steering rack boots 680-058? These suckers are way smaller than the rack they fit onto and the inner clamps supplied are too small! I fought that thing for hours Saturday, but finally got them on. Had to supply my own hose clamps. Any other suppliers have better ones? I did notice that Moss uses the same part number for Spridgets, Spits and TRs, while VB lists a different number for Triumphs and uses zip ties instead of clamps. Where's Frank when you need a good rant about poor Chinese crap? Lee From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:53:15 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:53:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: References: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: He probably oiled it and/or protected it with Saranwrap or something. A used axle that has spent its life in an oil bath will be somewhat rust resistant. You could also paint it. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:50 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> "Ever since I snapped an axle 2 hours from home, I carry a spare, it >> is zip tied under the right front inner fender but I have never needed >> it." > > Wouldn't critical portions of it be prone to rust there? > David L From lists at dinospider.com Tue Jun 14 17:02:34 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:02:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: British Car shows In-Reply-To: References: <162508.78064.qm@web126005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <002801cc2a3b$13d895a0$3b89c0e0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <4DF7E88A.8040105@dinospider.com> Sorry for the repost, I did not see this get posted earlier. I don't know where Newcastle upon Tyne is and I am too lazy to look it up, but if anyone goes to Singer National Weekend on Sunday 19th June at Boughton House 'The English Versailles', Northampton this weekend, remember to take LOTS of pictures for me, PLEASE! Especially of the pre-war cars and any 34 6cyl. 4-Seater Sports or 34 Le Man's, a man can never have too many pictures of what his car should look like when his cars are currently scrap piles. They are expecting 130 Singer's so it should be a great show, wish I had gone. Going to a Singer National is on my bucket list and this year appears to be a good one and its FREE! mike On 06/14/2011 04:26 AM, John Poynton wrote: > > Is anyone aware of any shows in the Newcastle upon Tyne area this Sunday, > I'll be visiting friends for the next few weeks????? > Thanks, > JP From ah3000me at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 17:58:00 2011 From: ah3000me at gmail.com (Tom) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:58:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Tire's! In-Reply-To: <20110614.125447.7960.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> References: <20110614.125447.7960.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: I have Kumhos on my wife's car and on my big Healey. They've been good tires. The Kumho's on my wife's car came from Sears, and the set on my Healey came from www.tires-easy.com. They had them when tirerack.com did not. - Tom On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > I'm putting a set of the Kumho KR22s onto one of my daily drivers, I'll let > everyone know if they're crap or not- the last set of Kumhos that I had > were > great tires, but they were on a daily driver also. > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon.com Official Site > 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4df7afe627fe346dd8ast06duc > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ah3000me at gmail.com From clarici at verizon.net Tue Jun 14 18:01:56 2011 From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:01:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> References: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <004e01cc2aef$7179cda0$546d68e0$@net> Dad bolted it to one of the supports in the front of the car where the fresh air inlet hose was and wire tied it in the wheel well. Here are some pics. http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/0657a220.jpg http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/9feb5073.jpg hope this helps. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:44 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! Does anyone (Frankie?) know EXACTLY how Frank attached the spare axle to the inner fender well, and EXACTLY where? I originally thought that he had put it over the passenger's legs with the flange towards the cockpit, obviously I was mistaken, and how did he cable tie it down if he ran it over the inner front wheel well (this would be harder on a MKII on than on a BE). Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4df7ba5eb1b5147056bst04duc Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 18:18:38 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:18:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] EMP 9 mm Message-ID: The Springfield EMP is a really cool looking gun . .and looks to have the same grips as my 45 . Do you ever have any feeding issues with the EMP? I have read that there can be feeding issues . . but I would guess people are using home loads or the wrong ammo for the gun. I have a Springfield 45 Military Spec which I love. . shoots right on all the time with no issues. Kirk From nases at verizon.net Tue Jun 14 18:35:39 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:35:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel Message-ID: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net> I'm looking at 12" steering wheels to replace mine in a Bugeye. Do I need a dished wheel for clearance or will a flat wheel fit? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From kmappley at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 19:18:04 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject Ethanol-one last time + (sorry!) Message-ID: Lee: Just a reminder that they had the same discussion with the oil companys a few week's ago with the same outcome. It costs a lot to get reelected now days and making alot of noise when you are out of power can only help! On guns: I've shot only black for most of 40 years. Hunt pheasants with original side by side's. Kurt. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Jun 14 19:25:43 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:25:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EMP 9 mm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DF80A17.60101@tx.rr.com> The EMP looks like the standard 1911, but the "M" in the name stands for "micro" so it won't use the same grips as a .45. Basically they took a design made for .45ACP, and scaled it down a little bit so the magazine would be the right size for 9mm. They seem to be pretty neat, and pretty expensive. If you like the 1911 design and have small hands, or you want a compact gun, then they are a good choice. > The Springfield EMP is a really cool looking gun . .and looks to have the > same grips as my 45 . > > Do you ever have any feeding issues with the EMP? > > I have read that there can be feeding issues . . but I would guess people > are using home loads or the wrong ammo for the gun. > > I have a Springfield 45 Military Spec which I love. . shoots right on all > the time with no issues. From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 01:30:14 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:30:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Wheel & Tire Bible Message-ID: Useful 'stuff' from the Wedge list. Herb http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Wed Jun 15 03:59:09 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:59:09 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] oh dear how sad NLBC except the lucas instruments content Message-ID: This is sad http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13764898 I hope us Brits don't do the same with our Lancaster Alan Warwick UK From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 04:20:25 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:20:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: <004e01cc2aef$7179cda0$546d68e0$@net> References: <20110614.134417.22073.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> <004e01cc2aef$7179cda0$546d68e0$@net> Message-ID: Awesome Frankie, it looks like it is supposed to be there. Is this shot the Speedwell? Having you here is more important than you know Frankie and I am referring to more than just the little cars. Lin PS Frankie what are you working on this weekend? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote: > Dad bolted it to one of the supports in the front of the car where the > fresh > air inlet hose was and wire tied it in the wheel well. > > Here are some pics. > > http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/0657a220.jpg > http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/9feb5073.jpg > > hope this helps. > > Frankie > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:44 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! > > Does anyone (Frankie?) know EXACTLY how Frank attached the spare axle to > the > inner fender well, and EXACTLY where? I originally thought that he had put > it > over the passenger's legs with the flange towards the cockpit, obviously I > was > mistaken, and how did he cable tie it down if he ran it over the inner > front > wheel well (this would be harder on a MKII on than on a BE). > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4df7ba5eb1b5147056bst04duc > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 04:31:23 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 03:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel In-Reply-To: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net> References: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net> Message-ID: <424178.95992.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> phil, 12" will fit without any dish to the wheel. have one in my bugeye. but! be advised that the smaller the wheel the greater the "armstrong steering" effort becomes. no difrence while rolling , just a bit tougher to get in and out of parking spots. it's great for tall people who need the knee room on both sides of the wheel! chuck ________________________________ From: Philip Nase To: "Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets" Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:35:39 PM Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel I'm looking at 12" steering wheels to replace mine in a Bugeye. Do I need a dished wheel for clearance or will a flat wheel fit? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 06:26:40 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:26:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Original Bugey on eBay, someone got a real deal Message-ID: List, Original Bugey on eBay, someone got a real deal, wish it was me ; ) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Austin-Healey-Sprite-Beautiful-Original-/270762302788?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f0ab0dd44 Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 06:30:56 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:30:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack boots In-Reply-To: <4DF7CA20.8040607@sbcglobal.net> References: <4DF7CA20.8040607@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: It is safe to say we are all speaking through Frank in which "why did you buy them from MOSS?????????" your own fault ; ) Lin On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Lee Fox wrote: > Has anyone had trouble with the Moss steering rack boots 680-058? > > These suckers are way smaller than the rack they fit onto and the inner > clamps supplied are too small! I fought that thing for hours Saturday, but > finally got them on. Had to supply my own hose clamps. > > Any other suppliers have better ones? I did notice that Moss uses the same > part number for Spridgets, Spits and TRs, while VB lists a different number > for Triumphs and uses zip ties instead of clamps. > > Where's Frank when you need a good rant about poor Chinese crap? > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 06:35:11 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:35:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel In-Reply-To: <424178.95992.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net> <424178.95992.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I put a tiny flat steering wheel on my Spritget and it feels like a GO cart. Personally I prefer the larger or stock ones now. Lin On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:31 AM, charles christ wrote: > phil, > > 12" will fit without any dish to the wheel. have one in my bugeye. > but! be > advised that the smaller the wheel the greater the "armstrong > steering" effort > becomes. no difrence while rolling , just a bit tougher to > get in and out of > parking spots. it's great for tall people who need the > knee room on both > sides of the wheel! > > > chuck > ________________________________ > From: Philip Nase > To: > "Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets" > Sent: Tue, > June 14, 2011 8:35:39 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel > > I'm looking at > 12" steering wheels to replace mine in a Bugeye. Do I need a > dished wheel for > clearance or will a flat wheel fit? > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From kgrowler at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 07:22:29 2011 From: kgrowler at gmail.com (Kim Tonry) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:22:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oh dear how sad NLBC except the lucas instruments content Message-ID: This happened about 20 miles west of my home. The airport it took off from often hosts vintage aircraft and I see them fly over the house. It's a shame about the plane, but the pilot deserves high praise for getting everyone off the plane safely and not hitting anything of consequence bringing her down. Certainly have to agree on the Lancaster. One of my friends in our local MG club was fortunate enough to get a flight a few years back on the Canadian Lancaster, which is the only other airworthy one in the world aside from the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight one. His father flew on a Lancaster during the war and he's former RAF himself, so it was a pretty emotional experience for him. Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois, U.S.A. Alan East-Jones said <<>> From bkitterer at me.com Wed Jun 15 07:28:53 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:28:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel In-Reply-To: References: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net> <424178.95992.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: They are good if you are wearing handcuffs Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I put a tiny flat steering wheel on my Spritget and it feels like a GO cart. > Personally I prefer the larger or stock ones now. > Lin > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:31 AM, charles christ wrote: > >> phil, >> >> 12" will fit without any dish to the wheel. have one in my bugeye. >> but! be >> advised that the smaller the wheel the greater the "armstrong >> steering" effort >> becomes. no difrence while rolling , just a bit tougher to >> get in and out of >> parking spots. it's great for tall people who need the >> knee room on both >> sides of the wheel! >> >> >> chuck >> ________________________________ >> From: Philip Nase >> To: >> "Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets" >> Sent: Tue, >> June 14, 2011 8:35:39 PM >> Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel >> >> I'm looking at >> 12" steering wheels to replace mine in a Bugeye. Do I need a >> dished wheel for >> clearance or will a flat wheel fit? >> >> >> Phil Nase >> Quakertown, PA >> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Jun 15 07:35:56 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:35:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] EMP 9 mm In-Reply-To: <4DF80A17.60101@tx.rr.com> References: <4DF80A17.60101@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <12a301cc2b61$27b49570$771dc050$@net> Sorry, I didn't get that post below about feeding. Short answer is no. Mine feeds like clockwork. I read those complaints also but I think it may have had to do with the earliest versions. I've run about 2500 rounds through it so far. I keep detailed records of dates, number of rounds, and cleaning intervals. The only time I have had a feeding issue is when I've run about 500 rounds without cleaning. And then I just wanted to see how far I could go without cleaning it. It is pretty compact, but really no kick to it. Very easy to shoot and very accurate. I would certainly buy another Springfield if this is an indication of quality. IMO, carrying a full size .45 here in central Florida is out of the question, especially this time of year. At least for the way I dress. I bought the EMP with the intention of carrying it. So far I carry something else, but I probably will carry it at some point. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJNoSHOV8 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:26 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EMP 9 mm The EMP looks like the standard 1911, but the "M" in the name stands for "micro" so it won't use the same grips as a .45. Basically they took a design made for .45ACP, and scaled it down a little bit so the magazine would be the right size for 9mm. They seem to be pretty neat, and pretty expensive. If you like the 1911 design and have small hands, or you want a compact gun, then they are a good choice. > The Springfield EMP is a really cool looking gun . .and looks to have the > same grips as my 45 . > > Do you ever have any feeding issues with the EMP? > > I have read that there can be feeding issues . . but I would guess people > are using home loads or the wrong ammo for the gun. > > I have a Springfield 45 Military Spec which I love. . shoots right on all > the time with no issues. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Jun 15 08:01:38 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:01:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel References: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net><424178.95992.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is there more to this story? __________________ They are good if you are wearing handcuffs Bob Kitterer From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jun 15 08:11:43 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] EMP 9 mm In-Reply-To: <12a301cc2b61$27b49570$771dc050$@net> References: <4DF80A17.60101@tx.rr.com> <12a301cc2b61$27b49570$771dc050$@net> Message-ID: <927237.87568.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Damn those theme parks. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Heard Saxon IMO, carrying a full size .45 here in central Florida is out of the question, especially this time of year. At least for the way I dress. I bought the EMP with the intention of carrying it. So far I carry something else, but I probably will carry it at some point. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 08:26:16 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:26:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel In-Reply-To: References: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net> <424178.95992.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I bought a 13" Grant steering wheel at a swapmeet that had been modified to fit the stock hub of my 1972 Midget. It is one of the best mods I have done to the car. On the down side, it compromises visibility of some of the instruments as well as of the turn signal indicators. On the up side, it emphasizes the spridgetly nature of the driving experience. I have not noticed any significant increase in effort. Definitely a benefit when autocrossing. Bear in mind that my 72 has the later Triumph steering rack which is not as "quick" as the Morris Minor rack used on the earlier cars. I have not changed the steering wheel on the Bugeye, nor do I have any intention of doing so. David L From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 08:37:20 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:37:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Original Bugeye on eBay, someone got a real deal Message-ID: Well, somebody isn't telling the truth. The window sticker has "two tone paint" listed as an option with the price, but the car is all red. Either it was resprayed or the sticker didn't come with that car. Can't read the VIN. But it does look like it was a good deal. I can't remember seeing an orignal two-tone BE. Anyone got pics? Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Original Bugey on eBay, someone got a real deal, wish it was me ; ) > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Austin-Healey-Sprite-Beautiful-Original-/270762302788?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f0ab0dd44 > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From haynes386 at netzero.net Wed Jun 15 08:37:08 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:37:08 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! Message-ID: <20110615.083708.22027.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Thanks Frankie (you probably hate being called that since Frankie IV is around), that puts to rest all of the comments- painted to resist rust, under the wheel well. A bit tough for a MKII though, I'll have to come up with something else. Thanks for the pics! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" To: "'Mark Haynes'" , Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:01:56 -0400 Dad bolted it to one of the supports in the front of the car where the fresh air inlet hose was and wire tied it in the wheel well. Here are some pics. http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/0657a220.jpg http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/9feb5073.jpg hope this helps. Frankie -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:44 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! Does anyone (Frankie?) know EXACTLY how Frank attached the spare axle to the inner fender well, and EXACTLY where? I originally thought that he had put it over the passenger's legs with the flange towards the cockpit, obviously I was mistaken, and how did he cable tie it down if he ran it over the inner front wheel well (this would be harder on a MKII on than on a BE). Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4df7ba5eb1b5147056bst04duc Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 08:41:39 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:41:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oh dear how sad NLBC except the lucas instruments content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Mid-Atlantic Air Museum in Reading, PA just had their WWI Weekend. Check the link for some GREAT pics. I was only there once, a few years ago, and it is quite a show. Reenactors and encampments from all arenas of the war, plus a guy riding around in a Jeep dressed like Patton. http://www.maam.org/maamwwii.html Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Kim Tonry wrote: > This happened about 20 miles west of my home. The airport it took off from > often hosts vintage aircraft and I see them fly over the house. It's a > shame > about the plane, but the pilot deserves high praise for getting everyone > off > the plane safely and not hitting anything of consequence bringing her down. > > Certainly have to agree on the Lancaster. One of my friends in our local MG > club was fortunate enough to get a flight a few years back on the Canadian > Lancaster, which is the only other airworthy one in the world aside from > the > Battle of Britain Memorial Flight one. His father flew on a Lancaster > during > the war and he's former RAF himself, so it was a pretty emotional > experience > for him. > > Kim Tonry > Downers Grove, Illinois, U.S.A. > > Alan East-Jones said << > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13764898 > > I hope us Brits don't do the same with our Lancaster > Alan > Warwick UK>>> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 09:49:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:49:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject Ethanol-one last time + (sorry!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kurt... Do you then take them back to the cave and roast them over an open fire? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Lee: Just a reminder that they had the same discussion with the oil > companys > a few week's ago with the same outcome. > It costs a lot to get reelected now days and making alot of noise when you > are out of power can only help! > > On guns: I've shot only black for most of 40 years. Hunt pheasants with > original side by side's. > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bkitterer at me.com Wed Jun 15 09:51:55 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:51:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel In-Reply-To: References: <07F0D56A-A3A9-43FC-9795-546B4CAF7AB1@verizon.net> <424178.95992.qm@web112711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It is the punch line to a very old joke about small diameter steering wheels - -just could not resist. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Mark wrote: > Is there more to this story? > > __________________ > > > They are good if you are wearing handcuffs > > Bob Kitterer From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 09:52:08 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:52:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack boots In-Reply-To: <4DF7CA20.8040607@sbcglobal.net> References: <4DF7CA20.8040607@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Frank always advised people to buy their rubber bits from Victoria British.... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lee Fox wrote: > Has anyone had trouble with the Moss steering rack boots 680-058? > > These suckers are way smaller than the rack they fit onto and the inner > clamps supplied are too small! I fought that thing for hours Saturday, but > finally got them on. Had to supply my own hose clamps. > > Any other suppliers have better ones? I did notice that Moss uses the same > part number for Spridgets, Spits and TRs, while VB lists a different number > for Triumphs and uses zip ties instead of clamps. > > Where's Frank when you need a good rant about poor Chinese crap? > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 09:59:36 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:59:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EMP 9 mm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > > Do you ever have any feeding issues with the EMP? > Sometimes mine won't eat no matter what food I put down for it.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 10:02:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:02:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: <20110615.083708.22027.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> References: <20110615.083708.22027.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Ooooooooooo!!!!! Air Horns!!!!! On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Thanks Frankie (you probably hate being called that since Frankie IV is > around), that puts to rest all of the comments- painted to resist rust, > under > the wheel well. A bit tough for a MKII though, I'll have to come up with > something else. Thanks for the pics! > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Frankie Clarici 4th" > To: "'Mark Haynes'" , > Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:01:56 -0400 > > Dad bolted it to one of the supports in the front of the car where the > fresh > air inlet hose was and wire tied it in the wheel well. > > Here are some pics. > > http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/0657a220.jpg > http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb216/gtiboy66/9feb5073.jpg > > hope this helps. > > Frankie > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:44 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! > > Does anyone (Frankie?) know EXACTLY how Frank attached the spare axle to > the > inner fender well, and EXACTLY where? I originally thought that he had put > it > over the passenger's legs with the flange towards the cockpit, obviously I > was > mistaken, and how did he cable tie it down if he ran it over the inner > front > wheel well (this would be harder on a MKII on than on a BE). > > > Mark Haynes > It only goes one way-Pay it Forward > HAN6L12977 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4df7ba5eb1b5147056bst04duc > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jun 15 10:35:43 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ebay - Mk II Wiring Harness Message-ID: <932260.36820.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> More shameless self-promotion. http://tinyurl.com/6bfo6s4 jay fishbein wallingford, ct From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Jun 15 11:04:10 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:04:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: References: <20110615.083708.22027.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: My shiny new '79 Midget bought for the 50th party has air horns. LOUD!!! Has K-Mart hubcaps on the Rostyles too - yecch! Lots of other stuff it doesn't have, but I'll get it squared away in time for the party. :-) Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Ooooooooooo!!!!! Air Horns!!!!! From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 11:34:53 2011 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:34:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's kit question-LBC content-BEWARE! In-Reply-To: References: <20110615.083708.22027.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: I'll just make a comment about the car show at the Midget 50th. There are awards to be "won" even if your car is not a "show" car. These awards will be there to help recognize those people (and their cars) that keep the spridget motoring hobby strong despite the patina and DPO of the cars. -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > My shiny new '79 Midget bought for the 50th party has air horns. LOUD!!! > Has K-Mart hubcaps on the Rostyles too - yecch! Lots of other stuff it > doesn't have, but I'll get it squared away in time for the party. :-) > > Rick > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > Ooooooooooo!!!!! Air Horns!!!!! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie at gmail.com From neilandcustom at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 13:10:53 2011 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:10:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WARNING! Mostly Spridget content - UK Midget 50th event Message-ID: <001201cc2b8f$f517d800$df478800$@com> Here is a report by my friend Martin Ingall on the big 50th Midget event at Burghley House this past Sunday. http://www.sebringsprite.com/midget50.html Martin organized the 12 car Sebring Sprite replica display for the event on the grounds of the estate. About 700 cars, from the prewar Midgets through all the "modern" variants, including Sprites, were expected. The somewhat typical English weather may have dampened the turn out, but not the enthusiasm for the day. It still looked like a great event. In some of the photos, (click on top one to enlarge and to scroll through the rest) you can see the grandeur of the house where the event took place. Unfortunately, the left hand site sidebar menu obscures a portion of the photos. The house was built between 1555 and 1587 by William Cecil, Lord High Treasurer of Queen Elizabeth I. Not too shabby of a venue. If you want to learn more about Burghley House, go to this link: http://www.burghley.co.uk/index.html I have somehow missed seeing this estate house on my trips to England. I won't the next time. See you at our event next month in Wisconsin. Neil Anderson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 16:45:48 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:45:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Don't Miss the Big Party in July!!! Message-ID: *Have you registered for the Midget 50th Party yet?* Time is running out for you to get in at the lowered registration rate! *Starting July 1st the price goes up so don't delay!* Click *HERE * to download the form. Simply fill it out and mail with your payment to: *Sprite-Midget Club USA, 1001 First Ave, Dodge City, KS 67801* Much more information is available on the *Sprite-Midget Club USA* website * HERE! * Just use the pull down tab for "*Midget 50th*". Email or call us with any questions and we will do our best to help you out!! SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com *620-408-6877* -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 18:08:25 2011 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:08:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster Message-ID: A few years ago two WWII bombers flew into our town . . one a B-17. It cost me $400.0 to go up in it. . but it was well worth it. Once up in the air they allowed you to walk through the plane and sit at the various places, radio operator (my father in WWII) and where the bombardier sat lining up the sights and controlling the speed of the aircraft. My father was also a tail gunner and got shot down in the Pacific. He spent a couple of days on an inflatable raft. They did have the tail gunner area closed off . as well as the ball turret. .but the rest of the craft was wide open for exploration. Here is a cool video on the Lancaster. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw13h-MmnVs Kirk From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 15 18:29:59 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:29:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <065279DE4206464A99528C746141B5BA@spider> Ah, the ball turret, also known as the Tucker turret. ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:08 PM To: kgrowler at gmail.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster A few years ago two WWII bombers flew into our town . . one a B-17. It cost me $400.0 to go up in it. . but it was well worth it. Once up in the air they allowed you to walk through the plane and sit at the various places, radio operator (my father in WWII) and where the bombardier sat lining up the sights and controlling the speed of the aircraft. My father was also a tail gunner and got shot down in the Pacific. He spent a couple of days on an inflatable raft. They did have the tail gunner area closed off . as well as the ball turret. .but the rest of the craft was wide open for exploration. Here is a cool video on the Lancaster. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw13h-MmnVs Kirk Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Jun 15 19:19:51 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster In-Reply-To: <065279DE4206464A99528C746141B5BA@spider> Message-ID: <1965411368.174943.1308187191376.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> (Risking giving a clue to my age!) I worked on Lancasters, Mosquitoes and other 'relics' when I was in the RAF... But they were nearing the tail-end (no pun intended) of their service life! Also on Vulcan's, Valiant's, Canberra's, Hudsons, DC3 & DC2's, Shackletons, etc.. the advantage of being Airborne Avionics qualified Anyone remember the "Gannet"? Now *those* were the days.... sigh! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > Ah, the ball turret, also known as the Tucker turret. > > > > ========================================================= From kmappley at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 21:03:37 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:03:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Ethanol one last time+(sorry) Message-ID: Naw, Jim, up here in the Dakotas we've moved out of the caves. Now in dugouts and tee pee's! Not pretending I'm in the 1840's, just always liked the guns. Especially English percussion doubles. If anyone knows where one is gathering dust I'd be interested! Kurt. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 00:30:53 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:30:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster In-Reply-To: <1965411368.174943.1308187191376.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <065279DE4206464A99528C746141B5BA@spider> <1965411368.174943.1308187191376.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: There is an old story about a group of Yank infantry getting ready for D-Day drinking in a midlands pub with some B-17 bomber boys. One of the infantry types told the airmen, "You boys have all the luck. Fly around all day then come back to England, grab a hot meal, a few drinks at the club and off to a soft bed! I'd trade places with any of you!" One of the airman replied, "Fair enough, buddy! You go on air crew for me tomorrow!" The infantry puke said, "What position?" "Ball turret gunner", replied the fly boy. "You go straight to hell!" cried the ground pounder! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jun 16 10:14:38 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:14:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Google Message-ID: <78D8BC2FDD7B4C4D87A294E99706650C@Home> My daughter recently pointed out to me that the Spridget Chat Group can be Googled (try spridgets racist asshole). I had copied her on some car question, and now her address can be found by anyone. Beware the Wiener Syndrome. Michael Rowe From lists at dinospider.com Thu Jun 16 10:53:05 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:53:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Google In-Reply-To: <78D8BC2FDD7B4C4D87A294E99706650C@Home> References: <78D8BC2FDD7B4C4D87A294E99706650C@Home> Message-ID: <4DFA34F1.40103@dinospider.com> Now you know why my e-mail address is lists at di.... and not my real e-mail. Its amazing how much spam lists at ... is getting these days. mike On 06/16/2011 09:14 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > My daughter recently pointed out to me that the Spridget Chat Group can be Googled (try spridgets racist asshole). I had copied her on some car question, and now her address can be found by anyone. Beware the Wiener Syndrome. > > Michael Rowe From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jun 16 10:58:31 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Google In-Reply-To: <78D8BC2FDD7B4C4D87A294E99706650C@Home> References: <78D8BC2FDD7B4C4D87A294E99706650C@Home> Message-ID: <1550.83841.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Makes you feel proud to be a member doesn't it? jay ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe To: Spridget Chat Group Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 12:14:38 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Google My daughter recently pointed out to me that the Spridget Chat Group can be Googled (try spridgets racist asshole). I had copied her on some car question, and now her address can be found by anyone. Beware the Wiener Syndrome. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 10:58:29 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:58:29 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Google Message-ID: That brings up the very important question: Q) What is the difference between love and email? A) Email is forever Steve ------Original Message------ From: Mike Rowe Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Google Sent: Jun 16, 2011 12:14 PM My daughter recently pointed out to me that the Spridget Chat Group can be Googled (try spridgets racist asshole). I had copied her on some car question, and now her address can be found by anyone. Beware the Wiener Syndrome. Michael Rowe Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com Sent from me. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 11:20:13 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:20:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Google In-Reply-To: <1550.83841.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <78D8BC2FDD7B4C4D87A294E99706650C@Home> <1550.83841.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A good reason to use a different account for list stuff. Gmail works well for a free service, and all the spam goes into the spam folder. I just looked and you wouldn't believe how many contests I have won! Plus, there are several people asking me for help to release their millions that are locked up in banks around the world. I may be rich soon. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jay wrote: > Makes you feel proud to be a member doesn't it? > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Rowe > To: Spridget Chat Group > Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 12:14:38 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Google > > My daughter recently pointed out to me that the Spridget Chat Group can be > Googled (try spridgets racist asshole). I had copied her on some car > question, > and now her address can be found by anyone. Beware the Wiener Syndrome. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From bgberlin at hotmail.com Thu Jun 16 11:49:04 2011 From: bgberlin at hotmail.com (Bruce Berlin) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:49:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Groups leaving from NJ/PA to Midget 50th? Message-ID: Any groups leaving for the party? I'm thinking of driving and would like to go with a group. The more spare parts within the group, the less that will break. :<) I'm in NJ, so could meet up with a caravan. From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jun 16 12:20:17 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Groups leaving from NJ/PA to Midget 50th? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <386757.79148.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Sure you can carry spares, but you can also just scavenge from someone else in the caravan during at a lunch stop. I'm just sayin'. jay fishbein wallingford, ct ________________________________ From: Bruce Berlin Any groups leaving for the party? I'm thinking of driving and would like to go with a group. The more spare parts within the group, the less that will break. :<) I'm in NJ, so could meet up with a caravan. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Jun 16 13:10:11 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:10:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Google In-Reply-To: <4DFA34F1.40103@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <20110616191011.5MFBV.124729.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> My email account got almost no spam until this list was hacked, now I get a lot of spam. I just delete it and go on to the next message. > Now you know why my e-mail address is lists at di.... and not my real > e-mail. Its amazing how much spam lists at ... is getting these days. From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jun 16 13:58:51 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:58:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Groups leaving from NJ/PA to Midget 50th? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9CF7FB34-3B6F-459B-8B37-2A764770ADE7@chartermi.net> John Deikis and are planning on meeting in Ludington, MI and taking the ferry across Lake Michigan, thereby avoiding Chicago. :-) Don't know if he'll have the works Midget back together in time, but that's the plan. Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 16, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Berlin wrote: > Any groups leaving for the party? I'm thinking of driving and would like to > go with a group. > The more spare parts within the group, the less that will break. :<) > > I'm in NJ, so could meet up with a From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 16 15:54:58 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster Message-ID: <33aaa.676598df.3b2bd5b2@aol.com> It's possible they are still in service. In a message dated 16/06/2011 02:36:42 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at frontier.com writes: Canberra's, From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jun 16 18:02:05 2011 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:02:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Groups to Midget 50th? In-Reply-To: <9CF7FB34-3B6F-459B-8B37-2A764770ADE7@chartermi.net> References: <9CF7FB34-3B6F-459B-8B37-2A764770ADE7@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <1549880148.20110616170205@pacifier.com> Hello, Most in the Pacific Northwest know about our caravan from the Seatle area, but maybe some from Oregon or anywhere else along the route would want to join up... Here is the not set in stone but darn close itinerary. July 15, 07:00.. leave from North Bend Washington McDonalds heading down I-90. Arriving in Missoula Montana some hours later where we will spend the night. July 16, leave in the morning aiming for Gillete Wyoming. July 17, leave Gillette heading for Kurt Appley's farm in South Eastern South Dakota. He's offered his farm as a gathering point for anyone who wants to gather. July 18, Leave the farm and head to Elkhart Lake, arriving in the evening. We plan to drive at about 60 mph, hoping to average 50 mph, covering 500 miles or so per day, about 10 hours of driving time, which includes stops for fuel roughly every two hours and a stop for lunch. If we get on the road by 08:00, we should be off the road by 06:00 (of the time zone from which we start each day). At this point we have 4 cars and 6 people making the trek. See ya'll soon in Wisconsin. We'll post relevant cell phone #'s just in case we get lost or someone wants to contact us.... Mine is 360-261-9298. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Don't steal. The government hates competition. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 18:29:49 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:29:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster In-Reply-To: <33aaa.676598df.3b2bd5b2@aol.com> References: <33aaa.676598df.3b2bd5b2@aol.com> Message-ID: The Canberra is the B-57 in this country. I haven't seen one fly since the end of the Vietnam war. Used to brief their reconnaissance crews on mission weather. I bet they are long since retired from service.... We are talking about the jet aren't we? Cheers!! Jimindodgecity On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:54 PM, wrote: > It's possible they are still in service. > > In a message dated 16/06/2011 02:36:42 GMT Daylight Time, > kk7ss at frontier.com writes: > > Canberra's, From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jun 16 19:32:38 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:32:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] party Midget Message-ID: Did some more work on the party Midget this evening. It has an exhaust leak under the driver's seat area and I had noticed that the exhaust note was a little louder than stock. Took a look under the car and found the leak and figured out why it's louder than stock - no muffler! It has a straight pipe from the cat to the rear of the car. Might just leave it that way. :-) Rick From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 16 21:49:29 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Lancaster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1887345973.188571.1308282569424.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Yessir! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Jim Johnson" wrote: We are talking about the jet aren't we? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jun 17 01:26:23 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Canberra was Re: Lancaster Message-ID: <8a263.2158bbb8.3b2c5b9f@aol.com> Yes, _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Canberra_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Canberra) Apparently the last ones retired from the RAF 5 years ago. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 17/06/2011 01:56:52 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: The Canberra is the B-57 in this country. I haven't seen one fly since the end of the Vietnam war. Used to brief their reconnaissance crews on mission weather. I bet they are long since retired from service.... We are talking about the jet aren't we? Cheers!! Jimindodgecity On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:54 PM, wrote: > It's possible they are still in service. > > In a message dated 16/06/2011 02:36:42 GMT Daylight Time, > kk7ss at frontier.com writes: > > Canberra's, From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jun 17 01:27:31 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] party Midget Message-ID: <8a28c.62879bd4.3b2c5be3@aol.com> It shouldn't have a cat - that must be a silencer. In a message dated 17/06/2011 02:55:20 GMT Daylight Time, refisk at chartermi.net writes: has a straight pipe from the cat to the rear of the car. From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 04:09:13 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:09:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] party Midget In-Reply-To: <8a28c.62879bd4.3b2c5be3@aol.com> References: <8a28c.62879bd4.3b2c5be3@aol.com> Message-ID: <-4236529662477393389@unknownmsgid> > It shouldn't have a cat - that must be a silencer. I believe that any 1976 or later US Midget should have come with a cat. The wheel chocks OTOH were aftermarket. The Hondas with the CVCC engines were about the only cars in the US that did not have a cat. David L From kk7ss at frontier.com Fri Jun 17 08:50:32 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Sports car owners - bad husband material, Message-ID: <881904037.191909.1308322232810.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Maybe this is why we own Spridgets... because we're self-confident (ahem!) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13803579 Really??? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From rich_ball at mindspring.com Fri Jun 17 09:59:15 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:59:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] party Midget References: <8a28c.62879bd4.3b2c5be3@aol.com> <-4236529662477393389@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: The cat became standard on all Midgets sometime late in '77. Prior to that '75-'77 could come either with or without a cat depending on whether it was a California or federal car. I found this info in the VB catalog. The curios thing is this note at the bottom of the page: Catalytic Converter is legal for road use in 49 states and Canada. Replacement converter is not legal for sale or use in California. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] party Midget >> It shouldn't have a cat - that must be a silencer. > > I believe that any 1976 or later US Midget should have come with a > cat. The wheel chocks OTOH were aftermarket. The Hondas with the CVCC > engines were about the only cars in the US that did not have a cat. > David L > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 11:47:06 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:47:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question Message-ID: I think I screwed up a year ago when I replaced the pilot bushing in my Bugeye. I had never done that before and in my haste to finally get the engine and transmission mated and in the car I never soaked the bushing in oil. Now I am finding even with the clutch depressed the car wants to move. I was hoping it was a problem with the slave or master, but after crawling under the car and my wife pushing the clutch peddle I see good movement on the clutch fork. Just a stupid error not to read about the proper way to change the pilot bushing. I can not think of any way to lubricate the bushing without taking the engine and trans out. I also suspect that the bushing is now likely ruined. If anyone has any other ideas please let me know. In an attempt to make lemon-aid out of this lemon, if I need to take out the engine I may change the cam. What is a good cam for street use? I bought the engine in pieces. Someone had taken it apart and stopped. It is a 1275 of unknown year. The bearing surfaces looked OK but the tappets had mushroomed a bit so they where replaced. The pistons had collapsed ring groves so they where tossed and replaced with 40 over flat tops. I was being cheap at the time so kept the original cam. Am I correct that to replace the cam all I need to do is remove the front cover and oil pan? Thanks for the help. Steve Broken 59 Bugeye From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jun 17 12:33:00 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:33:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <080D54C206EE4662AC6D02411EA25D8F@spider> A 3/4-race cam will work for the street; anything more and it'll crawl away from a stop sign until you "get up on the cam." ======================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steven Guterman Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:47 AM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question I think I screwed up a year ago when I replaced the pilot bushing in my Bugeye. I had never done that before and in my haste to finally get the engine and transmission mated and in the car I never soaked the bushing in oil. Now I am finding even with the clutch depressed the car wants to move. I was hoping it was a problem with the slave or master, but after crawling under the car and my wife pushing the clutch peddle I see good movement on the clutch fork. Just a stupid error not to read about the proper way to change the pilot bushing. I can not think of any way to lubricate the bushing without taking the engine and trans out. I also suspect that the bushing is now likely ruined. If anyone has any other ideas please let me know. In an attempt to make lemon-aid out of this lemon, if I need to take out the engine I may change the cam. What is a good cam for street use? I bought the engine in pieces. Someone had taken it apart and stopped. It is a 1275 of unknown year. The bearing surfaces looked OK but the tappets had mushroomed a bit so they where replaced. The pistons had collapsed ring groves so they where tossed and replaced with 40 over flat tops. I was being cheap at the time so kept the original cam. Am I correct that to replace the cam all I need to do is remove the front cover and oil pan? Thanks for the help. Steve Broken 59 Bugeye Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:02:27 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:02:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> Steve, When you say the car wants to move, does it seem like the car is in gear and the clutch is engaged or does it just want to slowly creep forward with the engine running? If you haven't driven it in a year, the clutch disc is more than likely bonded to the clutch plate. This is easy to fix ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > > Now I am finding even with the clutch depressed the car wants to > move. I > was hoping it was a problem with the slave or master, but after > crawling > under the car and my wife pushing the clutch peddle I see good > movement on > the clutch fork. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:09:26 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:09:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin The car drove OK for about 30 miles. I then could not get it into any gear after a stop sign. I was able to start it in 1st gear and by shifting carefully got it home. It is more of a creeping, I can still definitely feel a difference when I lift the clutch and it engages. Steve On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > Steve, > > When you say the car wants to move, does it seem like the car is in gear > and the clutch is engaged or does it just want to slowly creep forward with > the engine running? > > If you haven't driven it in a year, the clutch disc is more than likely > bonded to the clutch plate. This is easy to fix ;) > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa > > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > > > Now I am finding even with the clutch depressed the car wants to move. I > was hoping it was a problem with the slave or master, but after crawling > under the car and my wife pushing the clutch peddle I see good movement on > the clutch fork. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:20:18 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:20:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > Kevin > > The car drove OK for about 30 miles. I then could not get it into > any gear after a stop sign. I was able to start it in 1st gear and > by shifting carefully got it home. It is more of a creeping, I can > still definitely feel a difference when I lift the clutch and it > engages. Is it making any noise when you have the clutch pedal pushed in? Any squealing? Any vibration? Do you smell the clutch burning? Usually the pilot bushing will not keep the car moving when the clutch is depressed. I'd lean more towards insufficient movement of the throw-out bearing. That can be caused by air in the system, a bad master or slave cylinder, a bent clutch fork, a short or worn push rod at the master or the slave, or worn parts in the connections of the push rods. (to name a few). Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:44:28 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:44:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: <0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> <0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin, No clutch burning smell or vibration. Currently no squealing sound, but every now and then I did get a squealing sound when I depressed the clutch and put it in gear. The fork had no play at the hinge joint when it was assembled. Any idea how much movement I should getting at the slave? When my wife was pushing the clutch pedal the clutch rod looked like it moved immediately. Steve On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > > Kevin >> >> The car drove OK for about 30 miles. I then could not get it into any >> gear after a stop sign. I was able to start it in 1st gear and by shifting >> carefully got it home. It is more of a creeping, I can still definitely >> feel a difference when I lift the clutch and it engages. >> > > Is it making any noise when you have the clutch pedal pushed in? Any > squealing? Any vibration? Do you smell the clutch burning? > > Usually the pilot bushing will not keep the car moving when the clutch is > depressed. I'd lean more towards insufficient movement of the throw-out > bearing. That can be caused by air in the system, a bad master or slave > cylinder, a bent clutch fork, a short or worn push rod at the master or the > slave, or worn parts in the connections of the push rods. (to name a few). > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:50:08 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:50:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> <0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > Any idea how much movement I should getting at the slave? When my > wife was pushing the clutch pedal the clutch rod looked like it > moved immediately. Steve, I's not so much how soon the lever moves it's more how far it moves. Even with air in the system it will usually move as soon as you push the clutch pedal in. The distance it moves will vary from car to car, but you need enough movement to completely disengage the clutch. One more question - will it pump up to disengage? That is, if you pump it a few times does the clutch get better? I'd bleed the clutch again, just to be sure. Kevin From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 14:00:49 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:00:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> <0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> Message-ID: Kevin, Good idea to try bleeding again. Just not hopeful as pumping does not seem to make a difference. Steve On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote: > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Steven Guterman wrote: > > Any idea how much movement I should getting at the slave? When my wife >> was pushing the clutch pedal the clutch rod looked like it moved >> immediately. >> > > Steve, > > I's not so much how soon the lever moves it's more how far it moves. Even > with air in the system it will usually move as soon as you push the clutch > pedal in. The distance it moves will vary from car to car, but you need > enough movement to completely disengage the clutch. > > One more question - will it pump up to disengage? That is, if you pump it > a few times does the clutch get better? > > I'd bleed the clutch again, just to be sure. > > Kevin From proefrock at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 15:11:39 2011 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:11:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '73 For Sale Message-ID: <7EC6FE32-1410-4027-AB36-7F35B270D452@comcast.net> Apologies for the crass spam bomb, but I'm Selling my '73. Thanks for looking and/or spreading the word. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Fri Jun 17 15:51:25 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:51:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> <0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DFBCC5D.10305@tx.rr.com> It's more a question of how much free travel you have from pedal all the way down until the clutch engages. Insufficient travel would mean that the clutch would engage right off the bottom. If this is the case then the clutch is still dragging a little bit. Of course your clutch could be defective and doesn't release completely. We usually didn't pay much attention to the pilot bushings, sometimes we would put a dab of grease on them but we never soaked them in oil. > The fork had no play at the hinge joint when it was assembled. Any idea how > much movement I should getting at the slave? When my wife was pushing the > clutch pedal the clutch rod looked like it moved immediately. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 17 16:06:19 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:06:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1012F98737674C5CA69113C7CEEEAC52@HomePC> Steve, if you are replacing the cam, you really should replace the tappets at the same time and, of course, you will need to pull the tappets and pushrods out to pull the cam out. LAD -----Original Message----- From: Steven Guterman Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 12:47 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question I was being cheap at the time so kept the original cam. Am I correct that to replace the cam all I need to do is remove the front cover and oil pan? Thanks for the help. Steve Broken 59 Bugeye Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From proefrock at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 17:01:22 2011 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:01:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '73 For Sale In-Reply-To: <039a01cc2d38$af9ea510$0edbef30$@rr.com> References: <7EC6FE32-1410-4027-AB36-7F35B270D452@comcast.net> <039a01cc2d38$af9ea510$0edbef30$@rr.com> Message-ID: <70957082-B120-49F7-8962-F5F5849B4BFB@comcast.net> Whoops! Here's the link... http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/cto/2445626023.html On Jun 17, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Jim Seippel wrote: > What are the particulars? Location, price, condition, photos, etc. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Proefrock > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:12 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] '73 For Sale > > Apologies for the crass spam bomb, but I'm Selling my '73. Thanks for > looking > and/or spreading the word. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/aseippel at austin.rr.com From biffjones at verizon.net Fri Jun 17 17:15:09 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:15:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com><0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> <4DFBCC5D.10305@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <0EFA3C4F7CD24D73B040699D7E771479@dell1> One other thing not mentioned yet, the clutch pushrod adjustment at the clutch master cylinder. Is there a lot of slack when the clutch pedal is fully at home? If so take up the slack with the adjustment on the rod. See if that helps. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book" http://sprites2.homestead.com/ From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 17:46:48 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:46:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: <0EFA3C4F7CD24D73B040699D7E771479@dell1> References: <84BF7CED-3FC1-4AC8-8E00-3F22BF4333B0@gmail.com> <0D305877-FAD8-4D35-83F7-47A1DEBF8D74@gmail.com> <4DFBCC5D.10305@tx.rr.com> <0EFA3C4F7CD24D73B040699D7E771479@dell1> Message-ID: Biff, I had not thought of that, maybe I will get lucky and not need to pull the lump out!! Steve On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Biff Jones wrote: > One other thing not mentioned yet, the clutch pushrod adjustment at the > clutch master cylinder. Is there a lot of slack when the clutch pedal is > fully at home? If so take up the slack with the adjustment on the rod. See > if that helps. > > Biff Jones > 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye > 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book" > http://sprites2.homestead.com/ > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/an5.sprite@**gmail.com From theshoe5 at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 18:56:03 2011 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:56:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] more stats Message-ID: http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/papers/2007/11_us_automakers_winsto n/11_us_automakers_winston.pdf From an5.sprite at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 19:31:03 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:31:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] more stats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just jump to the conclusion on the last page, it says it all. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Alan wrote: > > http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/papers/2007/11_us_automakers_winsto > n/11_us_automakers_winston.pdf > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From theshoe5 at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 19:31:24 2011 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:31:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] More stats mistake Message-ID: <0E2D423B0A264D87ACE06BC1CECA6895@AlanPC> Sorry about my previous email More stats. it was meant for someone else and I hit the wrong email. Alan 59 Sprite From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Jun 17 19:39:13 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget - need a part Message-ID: Discovered this evening that the party Midget has a cracked exhaust manifold. Rats! Anyone out there have a spare manifold for sale that will fit a '79 Midget? Rick From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jun 17 20:01:43 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:01:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More stats mistake In-Reply-To: <0E2D423B0A264D87ACE06BC1CECA6895@AlanPC> References: <0E2D423B0A264D87ACE06BC1CECA6895@AlanPC> Message-ID: <66D1D99BE68E4FB4AEE2D53A2E13DEBD@spider> Its all right; good educated piece. ...bill in corvallis ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:31 PM To: spridgets list Subject: [Spridgets] More stats mistake Sorry about my previous email More stats. it was meant for someone else and I hit the wrong email. Alan 59 Sprite Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Jun 17 21:33:07 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:33:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question (clutch issue) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D8CED27-1108-4919-9CFE-8DEBB49B66DE@gerardsgarage.com> Steve, In my experience this can occur from a failing throw out bearing. I have seen this occur at least twice. Once it was the complete disintegration of the carbon material, the other was one side of the pivot failing, causing it to exert uneven pressure against the pressure plate, making it difficult to get full release. It could be any of the aforementioned problems Kevin lists, but the suddenness of it makes me think that the TO bearing is something to examine. If you pull the plug (if there is one) in the opposite clutch fork hole, you should be able to get a peek in there and see if anything looks off. A lot of free movement with the push rod removed (distance fully retracted vs up against the mating surface) will give you an idea as well. Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:31 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:44:28 -0400 > From: Steven Guterman > To: Kevin Valentine > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Kevin, > > No clutch burning smell or vibration. Currently no squealing sound, > but > every now and then I did get a squealing sound when I depressed the > clutch > and put it in gear. > > The fork had no play at the hinge joint when it was assembled. Any > idea how > much movement I should getting at the slave? When my wife was > pushing the > clutch pedal the clutch rod looked like it moved immediately. > > Steve From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jun 17 21:53:13 2011 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:53:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] party Midget In-Reply-To: References: <8a28c.62879bd4.3b2c5be3@aol.com><-4236529662477393389@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: California passed a law that only OEM catalytic converters are legal. This was to prevent the aftermarket from selling high performance/low restriction units. California fails to recognize that British Leyland is no longer in business. It's just another way to try and force the older "gross polluters" off the road. So, even though the suppliers can't sell aftermarket catalytic converters in California, it isn't illegal to have them on the car. You can buy them in Nevada, and then install them yourself. If the car passes the sniffer, and passes the visual, there is no way of knowing whether or not the converter was OEM on a Midget. The exhaust manifolds ALWAYS crack. 1st, the ZS carb runs rich, then the cat overheats, then the manifold cracks. If it doesn't have to pass emissions testing, install a header. SAVE THE CRACKED MANIFOLD, as they are also getting scarce, and if it ever has to pass a visual smog inspection, you can always temporarily re-install the cracked manifold. Headers are almost always available on eBay for about $100-$150. David Riker -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ball Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:59 AM To: David Lieb ; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] party Midget The cat became standard on all Midgets sometime late in '77. Prior to that '75-'77 could come either with or without a cat depending on whether it was a California or federal car. I found this info in the VB catalog. The curios thing is this note at the bottom of the page: Catalytic Converter is legal for road use in 49 states and Canada. Replacement converter is not legal for sale or use in California. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] party Midget From lmacy at mac.com Sat Jun 18 04:32:20 2011 From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:32:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Groups leaving from NJ/PA to Midget 50th? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33895179-BE0B-480F-BB37-AB9B38E5CDB1@mac.com> I am starting out from Morrisville PA (across the river from Trenton). Not sure what day, but I am up for assembling a caravan from here. Larry On Jun 16, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Berlin wrote: > Any groups leaving for the party? I'm thinking of driving and would like to > go with a group. > The more spare parts within the group, the less that will break. :<) > > I'm in NJ, so could meet up with a caravan. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 05:36:54 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:36:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Groups leaving from NJ/PA to Midget 50th? In-Reply-To: <33895179-BE0B-480F-BB37-AB9B38E5CDB1@mac.com> References: <33895179-BE0B-480F-BB37-AB9B38E5CDB1@mac.com> Message-ID: Hey Larry, is the Midget all done already? I'd love to see it ; ) Lin On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Macy Larry wrote: > I am starting out from Morrisville PA (across the river from Trenton). Not > sure what day, but I am up for assembling a caravan from here. > > Larry > > On Jun 16, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Berlin wrote: > > > Any groups leaving for the party? I'm thinking of driving and would like > to > > go with a group. > > The more spare parts within the group, the less that will break. :<) > > > > I'm in NJ, so could meet up with a caravan. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com > > > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving > safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, > Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and > screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 05:55:17 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:55:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question (clutch issue) In-Reply-To: <1D8CED27-1108-4919-9CFE-8DEBB49B66DE@gerardsgarage.com> References: <1D8CED27-1108-4919-9CFE-8DEBB49B66DE@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: Gerard, How quickly can a throwout bearing fail? When I think back, When i got a squealing sound it was with the clutch pedal depressed, so this could be the problem. I think I read on this list about real throwout bearings (versus carbon) for the midget. Are they available? Thanks Steve On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Gerard wrote: > Steve, > > In my experience this can occur from a failing throw out bearing. I > have seen this occur at least twice. Once it was the complete > disintegration of the carbon material, the other was one side of the > pivot failing, causing it to exert uneven pressure against the > pressure plate, making it difficult to get full release. > > It could be any of the aforementioned problems Kevin lists, but the > suddenness of it makes me think that the TO bearing is something to > examine. If you pull the plug (if there is one) in the opposite clutch > fork hole, you should be able to get a peek in there and see if > anything looks off. A lot of free movement with the push rod removed > (distance fully retracted vs up against the mating surface) will give > you an idea as well. > > Gerard > http://gerardsgarage.com/ > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:31 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:44:28 -0400 > > From: Steven Guterman > > To: Kevin Valentine > > Cc: Spridgets > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Kevin, > > > > No clutch burning smell or vibration. Currently no squealing sound, > > but > > every now and then I did get a squealing sound when I depressed the > > clutch > > and put it in gear. > > > > The fork had no play at the hinge joint when it was assembled. Any > > idea how > > much movement I should getting at the slave? When my wife was > > pushing the > > clutch pedal the clutch rod looked like it moved immediately. > > > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 06:47:02 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:47:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm back! In-Reply-To: <009a01cc2783$a10489d0$e30d9d70$@hky.com> References: <009a01cc2783$a10489d0$e30d9d70$@hky.com> Message-ID: Bud, Glad you're back online Bud, I'm just catching up now that my grades are done at school. It has been totally heartbreaking to loose our dear friend and mentor Frank Clarici. It will be especially difficult tomorrow "Father's Day" for Frankie, Tiffany and Diane. Lin PS Glad you're Midget ins out of hibernation. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > My new computer managed to knock me off the List, a couple of months ago > and > I finally got back on last night. > > Upon arriving at Carlisle, a few weeks ago, I was shocked and deeply > saddened to learn of Frank's passing. > > On the brighter side, I finally got my Midget out of hibernation, a week > ago, and took it for a long day of mountain road driving, stopping at > Indiana, PA to have the new Prestige top installed. My upholstery guy was > impressed with the quality of the top and I'm delighted with the way it > fits, and with the zip-out rear window feature. > > All I did to the Midget was a quick oil change and fluid level check before > setting out, last Friday. As is traditional for that car, it never skipped > a beat and was a total hoot to drive. I really screwed-up one of my knees > earlier this spring, and getting in and out of a Midget, with the top up, > is > no longer something I do with ease. But, it's something I'll gladly deal > with in order to drive Spridgets for at least a few more years (I hope). > Hey, next week (assuming I can find time away from work), the new top will > have been sufficiently stretched that I can put the top down, where I hope > it will stay until early November, making getting in and out almost as easy > as it was when I was young, dumb and immortal. > > Bud Osbourne > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 07:20:22 2011 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 06:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mountain Legends on Youtube Message-ID: <355979.39263.qm@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Most of us have probably seen this at one time or another, but I still love looking at the team Healeys and Sprites from the 1965 Targa Florio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_SV9FAX0tE (In 8 parts) Rick Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo From pvanwig at me.com Sat Jun 18 09:33:01 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:33:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E2ABA2C-A053-44DC-9EF6-5C8C5F48D6D5@me.com> And the head on a 1275 On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: Am I correct that to replace the cam all I need to do is remove the front cover and oil pan? Paul Van Wig pvanwig at mac dot com facebook.com/pvanwig "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne Remember! If you forward this, PLEASE REMOVE all email address history before you send it on, and use BCC when forwarding to several people at once. BE KIND TO YOUR EMAIL FRIENDS No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sat Jun 18 11:09:41 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:09:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question (clutch issue) In-Reply-To: References: <1D8CED27-1108-4919-9CFE-8DEBB49B66DE@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, The one that occurred with the carbon disintegrating happened very suddenly and rapidly got worse. It hadn't been in the car that long, so I thought it was the clutch that had failed as it became very hard to shift (as you described). Once it starts to fail, it doesn't take long to completely come apart. As far as the failed pivot. That would take a long time to develop, but would fail suddenly as well. They do make a roller bearing, but I've heard mixed results with how well they work and I don't have personal experience with one. The carbon bearing are usually fine, but then again, I don't have a lot of confidence in a lot of the reproduction stuff these days. I don't know about the ones supplied separately, but I think the Borg & Beck kits are still made in the UK. I have discovered recently that the friction material on the discs is about 10% narrower than original, so it a not a good idea to use a new disc with an old pressure plate. I haven't been able to confirm it, but I suspect that the new pressure plates have a different spring rate. Let me know what you discover about the problem. Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ On Jun 18, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: > Gerard, > > How quickly can a throwout bearing fail? When I think back, When i > got a squealing sound it was with the clutch pedal depressed, so > this could be the problem. I think I read on this list about real > throwout bearings (versus carbon) for the midget. Are they available? > > Thanks > > Steve > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Gerard > wrote: > Steve, > > In my experience this can occur from a failing throw out bearing. I > have seen this occur at least twice. Once it was the complete > disintegration of the carbon material, the other was one side of the > pivot failing, causing it to exert uneven pressure against the > pressure plate, making it difficult to get full release. > > It could be any of the aforementioned problems Kevin lists, but the > suddenness of it makes me think that the TO bearing is something to > examine. If you pull the plug (if there is one) in the opposite clutch > fork hole, you should be able to get a peek in there and see if > anything looks off. A lot of free movement with the push rod removed > (distance fully retracted vs up against the mating surface) will give > you an idea as well. > > Gerard > http://gerardsgarage.com/ > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:31 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:44:28 -0400 > > From: Steven Guterman > > To: Kevin Valentine > > Cc: Spridgets > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Kevin, > > > > No clutch burning smell or vibration. Currently no squealing sound, > > but > > every now and then I did get a squealing sound when I depressed the > > clutch > > and put it in gear. > > > > The fork had no play at the hinge joint when it was assembled. Any > > idea how > > much movement I should getting at the slave? When my wife was > > pushing the > > clutch pedal the clutch rod looked like it moved immediately. > > > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 18 11:28:41 2011 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:28:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Rally NewFoundland on Speed today@4! Message-ID: Highlights from the 2010 Targa New Foundland on Speed TV @4 pm today. Don't know if Ron and crew is featured or not. got to set the DVR. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jun 18 12:51:19 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:51:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Rally NewFoundland on Speed today@4! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DFCF3A7.5080606@wi.net> Thanks for the heads-up!! Will set the DVR. Dave W. Support Crew for the Rent-a-Racer! Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 6/18/2011 12:28 PM, brian S wrote: > Highlights from the 2010 Targa New Foundland on Speed TV @4 pm today. > Don't know if Ron and crew is featured or not. > got to set the DVR. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank C.! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 18 13:55:24 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:55:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Rally NewFoundland on Speed today@4! In-Reply-To: <4DFCF3A7.5080606@wi.net> References: <4DFCF3A7.5080606@wi.net> Message-ID: <86DAD622D36541718FB0FC629C25A368@HomePC> Note that this is 4 Eastern time. IOW, in about 5 minutes! -----Original Message----- From: Woerpel Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:51 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 Rally NewFoundland on Speed today at 4! Thanks for the heads-up!! Will set the DVR. Dave W. Support Crew for the Rent-a-Racer! Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 6/18/2011 12:28 PM, brian S wrote: > Highlights from the 2010 Targa New Foundland on Speed TV @4 pm today. > Don't know if Ron and crew is featured or not. > got to set the DVR. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank C.! > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jun 18 14:25:19 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:25:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Rally NewFoundland on Speed today@4! In-Reply-To: <86DAD622D36541718FB0FC629C25A368@HomePC> References: <4DFCF3A7.5080606@wi.net> <86DAD622D36541718FB0FC629C25A368@HomePC> Message-ID: <4DFD09AF.7010206@wi.net> DVR doesn't work anybody out there can make me a dvd I'd be grateful! Thanks, DW Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org On 6/18/2011 2:55 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Note that this is 4 Eastern time. IOW, in about 5 minutes! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Woerpel > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 1:51 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2010 Rally NewFoundland on Speed today at 4! > > Thanks for the heads-up!! Will set the DVR. > > Dave W. > Support Crew for the Rent-a-Racer! > > Dave W. > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary > July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > > > On 6/18/2011 12:28 PM, brian S wrote: >> Highlights from the 2010 Targa New Foundland on Speed TV @4 pm today. >> Don't know if Ron and crew is featured or not. >> got to set the DVR. >> >> Brian S. >> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! >> Thanks to Frank C.! >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 15:51:10 2011 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: <9E2ABA2C-A053-44DC-9EF6-5C8C5F48D6D5@me.com> Message-ID: <452917.37504.qm@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You do not have to remove the head or the oil pan to remove/replace the cam. Back off all the adjustment screws then place a large screw driver under the rocker arm shaft and on top of the valve spring, gentle apply pressure to the valve spring until the adjustment screw clears the push rod and the rod is ready to be removed. The 2 end rocker arms will have to be removed to get nbr 1 and 8 push rod out. You can do this by removing the cotter pin and using the same method as discribed remove the arm and the push rod. As they say replacement is just the opposite. After turning the engine over and removing the front cover and the gears for the cam and crank shaft you can now remove the camshaft but be careful to not lose the star drive at the end of the cam, you might not have one of these but rather the slotted type of drive, or you will then have to remove the pan. I've done this at the race track in about 4 hours, engine out and back in and running. Almost forgot, of course all the oil is drained from the pan first but when you turn the engine over, upside down, you will still get some oil from the lifters and what is left in the pan so be prepared for this. Also to prevent loosing the star drive I'd have the rear of the engine a little lower then the front. One more thing, you will need to check the end float of the cam which needs to be .003 to .007 clearance checked at the front of the cam after you have installed the cam locating plate. Hope this helps and any questions, ask away. Bob --- On Sat, 6/18/11, Paul Van Wig wrote: From: Paul Van Wig Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question To: "Steven Guterman" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 11:33 AM And the head on a 1275 On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: Am I correct that to replace the cam all I need to do is remove the front cover and oil pan? Paul Van Wig pvanwig at mac dot com facebook.com/pvanwig "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne Remember! If you forward this, PLEASE REMOVE all email address history before you send it on, and use BCC when forwarding to several people at once. BE KIND TO YOUR EMAIL FRIENDS No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/racerbob70 at yahoo.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 05:52:30 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:52:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cut-away Midget at museum in "olive green?"....with photos. Message-ID: List, Got this link to a Sprite Mitget site from Spridget friends in the UK. I don't recall seeing the site before but very nice and growing. He has a nice Midget Cut-Away car in an olive color which is a color I have never seen on the road. If I find my color chart pages I'll look and see if it was listed there. Anyone ever see the olive green color on the road? Also I didn't recall that Donald had MG do the rear as he did the bonnet on the MKII Sprite. I always thought it was much more on collaboration. Personally I had a B before and always liked the look of the rear, and a few years ago our dear friend Frank referred to the MGB as "MG-Beast" which makes me happier to have my little Sprite MKII ; ) "In 1961, MG Sprite which produces at its plant in Abingdon and claiming to be able to sell a version of the MG Sprite is entrusted the restyling of the rear of the car. Healey to take on the front. The two consulting firms worked together to rejuvenate the line of Sprite. In May 1961 the Sprite MKII, which a conventional hood and a trunk accessible from outside the car. In July 1961, MG Midget MKI presents, DeLuxe version of Sprite MKII." Enjoy these links; Cutaway Midget & Sprite Midget Site: http://www.spritemidget.com/?page_id=2&lang=en http://www.spritemidget.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/DSCN2410.jpg http://www.spritemidget.com Lin From jessmd1 at comcast.net Sun Jun 19 08:24:14 2011 From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:24:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] front disc brake conversion and differential In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12276067-4FDE-40B7-8488-D6E1DDCE36E8@comcast.net> I am converting my 1959 bugeye front brakes to disc.Does anyone sell a complete kit for this?The motor is a 1275cc.What size differential should I have,the stock 4.2 or something else?Thanks From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 08:40:54 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:40:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: <452917.37504.qm@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9E2ABA2C-A053-44DC-9EF6-5C8C5F48D6D5@me.com> <452917.37504.qm@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bob, The information is very helpful. I will not try to break your 4 hour record on the swap. I also will need to figure out what is wrong in the clutch department. Are you supposed to install a new cam locating plate with a new cam. Steve On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > You do not have to remove the head or the oil pan to remove/replace the > cam. Back off all the adjustment screws then place a large screw driver > under the rocker arm shaft and on top of the valve spring, gentle apply > pressure to the valve spring until the adjustment screw clears the push rod > and the rod is ready to be removed. The 2 end rocker arms will have to be > removed to get nbr 1 and 8 push rod out. You can do this by removing the > cotter pin and using the same method as discribed remove the arm and the > push rod. As they say replacement is just the opposite. After turning the > engine over and removing the front cover and the gears for the cam and crank > shaft you can now remove the camshaft but be careful to not lose the star > drive at the end of the cam, you might not have one of these but rather the > slotted type of drive, or you will then have to remove the pan. I've done > this at the race track in about 4 hours, engine out and back in and running. > Almost forgot, of course all the oil is drained from the pan first but > when you turn the engine over, upside down, you will still get some oil from > the lifters and what is left in the pan so be prepared for this. Also to > prevent loosing the star drive I'd have the rear of the engine a > little lower then the front. One more thing, you will need to check the end > float of the cam which needs to be .003 to .007 clearance checked at the > front of the cam after you have installed the cam locating plate. Hope > this helps and any questions, ask away. > Bob > > > --- On *Sat, 6/18/11, Paul Van Wig * wrote: > > > From: Paul Van Wig > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question > To: "Steven Guterman" > Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 11:33 AM > > And the head on a 1275 > On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Steven Guterman wrote: > > Am I correct that to replace the cam all I need to do is remove the front > cover and oil pan? > > Paul Van Wig > pvanwig at mac dot com > facebook.com/pvanwig > > "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne > > Remember! > If you forward this, PLEASE REMOVE all email address history before you > send it on, and use BCC when forwarding to several people at once. > BE KIND TO YOUR EMAIL FRIENDS > > No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous > electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/racerbob70 at yahoo.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 08:57:42 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:57:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] front disc brake conversion and differential In-Reply-To: <12276067-4FDE-40B7-8488-D6E1DDCE36E8@comcast.net> References: <12276067-4FDE-40B7-8488-D6E1DDCE36E8@comcast.net> Message-ID: Jess, Not sure if anyone has a complete kit, but I am sure if you found one it would not be cheap. Ebay often has someone selling the parts from a donor car. Just found the listing below - I know nothing about the offering or seller, just found out through the search: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Sprite-MG-Midget-Front-Disc-Brake-Conver-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cf7fad539QQitemZ330577925433QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories You can easily use the 4.2 but your happiness will depend on how you use the car. For just local short drives it should be fine and give nice punch off the line, on the highway it will likely rev higher than you like. I am assuming you have a 4 speed. With an overdrive on a 5 speed it will also be fine. The pumpkin is relatively easy to change so you leave the 4.22 until you decide. If you change the rear and want an accurate speedometer you also need to change the gear in the transmission. Steve On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Jess Power wrote: > I am converting my 1959 bugeye front brakes to disc.Does anyone sell a > complete kit for this?The motor is a 1275cc.What size differential should I > have,the stock 4.2 or something else?Thanks > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/an5.sprite@**gmail.com From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 10:28:11 2011 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:28:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fathers Day Message-ID: <717126BDA383403E8F12CF23E8AC56A0@Inspiron> I hope all you guys are having a Happy Fathers Day and being treated as the King of your Castle. Greg Higgins From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jun 19 11:11:20 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:11:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fathers Day In-Reply-To: <717126BDA383403E8F12CF23E8AC56A0@Inspiron> References: <717126BDA383403E8F12CF23E8AC56A0@Inspiron> Message-ID: I'm welding exhaust pipes. It's Father's Day - I get to do what I want right? At least until everybody gets here. :-) Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Greg Higgins wrote: > I hope all you guys are having a Happy Fathers Day and being treated as the > King of your Castle. > > Greg Higgins > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 11:18:49 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:18:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] front disc brake conversion and differential In-Reply-To: <12276067-4FDE-40B7-8488-D6E1DDCE36E8@comcast.net> References: <12276067-4FDE-40B7-8488-D6E1DDCE36E8@comcast.net> Message-ID: Just get front brake parts from a donor car. It shouldn't be too expensive. Personally I would find a diff from a later car, 3.9 or 3.7. They came in late 70s Midgets. The 3.9s are kinda rare and the 3.7s rarer still. I sold a 3.7 on ebay a while back and the guy who bought it was in Scotland. He was willing to wait 6-8 weeks for shipping. You should have a 4.22 stock and it will probably work fine except it might get annoying at long intervals of 70+ driving as opposed to the 3.9 or 3.7. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 11:23:16 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:23:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question In-Reply-To: References: <9E2ABA2C-A053-44DC-9EF6-5C8C5F48D6D5@me.com> <452917.37504.qm@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There are guys that can do a VW Beetle engine swap in 30 minutes, working in pairs. Spridgets are easy. Try changing a timing belt on a 4 cylinder Camry sometime. From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 11:35:22 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:35:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question Message-ID: I need some kind of mold release agent, PVA would do nicely but I'm having trouble finding any I can go and buy today. I can order from an online place, but that's not going to get the job done today. I have a plaster cast mold I want to lay in some fiberglass and resin and then be able to pop it out without breaking the mold. In a previous job I had doing this kind of thing (several decades ago) we would use special chemicals and everything worked great. Now I want to do a little of this at home in my spare time, making impossible to buy new spridget bits & pieces out of fiberglass. Anyone think of a substitute for PVA or some other way of doing this? For the casting metal piece that I was putting into the plaster to create the mold I rubbed the surface all over with wax from a candle. It popped right out perfectly. I'm considering giving the mold the same treatment, then laying in the fiberglass and resin and then just hope it comes out cleanly. Any other ideas? Rick (spridgety bits) Bastedo From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 12:24:00 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:24:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like that idea, I had not thought of that solution - Thanks Pete! On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Pete Chast wrote: > I didn't read the whole thing first.... > Why not treat the plaster with heavy wax like floor wax? > > > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:35:22 -0400, Rick Bastedo > wrote: > > >> I need some kind of mold release agent, PVA would do nicely but I'm having >> trouble finding any I can go and buy today. >> I can order from an online place, but that's not going to get the job done >> today. >> >> I have a plaster cast mold I want to lay in some fiberglass and resin and >> then be able to pop it out without breaking the mold. >> In a previous job I had doing this kind of thing (several decades ago) we >> would use special chemicals and everything worked great. >> Now I want to do a little of this at home in my spare time, making >> impossible to buy new spridget bits & pieces out of fiberglass. >> >> Anyone think of a substitute for PVA or some other way of doing this? >> >> For the casting metal piece that I was putting into the plaster to create >> the mold I rubbed the surface all over with wax from a candle. >> It popped right out perfectly. >> I'm considering giving the mold the same treatment, then laying in the >> fiberglass and resin and then just hope it comes out cleanly. >> >> Any other ideas? >> >> Rick (spridgety bits) Bastedo >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/pchast@**francomm.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 12:38:11 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:38:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Auto wax? From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 12:42:55 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:42:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you live near a West Marine? From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 12:46:27 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:46:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh, yeah, I forgot duct tape. And Pam cooking spray. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, derf wrote: > Do you live near a West Marine? From rbastedo at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 12:50:27 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:50:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, I was considering tape - that could work. Veg oil? That's a thought. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:46 AM, derf wrote: > Oh, yeah, I forgot duct tape. And Pam cooking spray. > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, derf wrote: > > Do you live near a West Marine? From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jun 19 17:41:43 2011 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:41:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question Message-ID: <3c2a01cc2eda$71d897b0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Done it on a Tercel, does that count? :) Better than a Vega, where the water pump is also the timing belt tensioner... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: derf [derf247 at gmail.com] >Sent: 6/19/2011 1:23:16 PM >To: an5.sprite at gmail.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Likely Pilot Bushing problem + cam question > >There are guys that can do a VW Beetle engine swap in 30 minutes, >working in pairs. >Spridgets are easy. Try changing a timing belt on a 4 cylinder Camry sometime. >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 18:02:29 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:02:29 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fathers Day In-Reply-To: References: <717126BDA383403E8F12CF23E8AC56A0@Inspiron> Message-ID: They may force you to have a beer after that!!! Enjoy Steve Sent from me. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 13:11:20 To: Greg Higgins Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fathers Day I'm welding exhaust pipes. It's Father's Day - I get to do what I want right? At least until everybody gets here. :-) Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Greg Higgins wrote: > I hope all you guys are having a Happy Fathers Day and being treated as the > King of your Castle. > > Greg Higgins > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk at chartermi.net _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jun 19 18:42:00 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:42:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fathers Day In-Reply-To: <20110620002845.36C2B18791A@autox.team.net> References: <717126BDA383403E8F12CF23E8AC56A0@Inspiron> <20110620002845.36C2B18791A@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <3C487191AB404EE591045991B47DA2CF@spider> Heard from my son . . .who needs a computer job in San Diego. ...bill in corvallis ================================================== Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Greg Higgins wrote: > I hope all you guys are having a Happy Fathers Day and being treated as the > King of your Castle. > > Greg Higgins > _______________________________________________ From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 19 18:58:10 2011 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cut-away Midget at museum in "olive green?"....with photos. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <536729.17522.qm@web39423.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lin, This color was popular on the Jaguar line, especially on the XKE. --- On Sun, 6/19/11, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] Cut-away Midget at museum in "olive green?"....with photos. To: "Spridget list" Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 7:52 AM List, Got this link to a Sprite Mitget site from Spridget friends in the UK. I don't recall seeing the site before but very nice and growing. He has a nice Midget Cut-Away car in an olive color which is a color I have never seen on the road. If I find my color chart pages I'll look and see if it was listed there. Anyone ever see the olive green color on the road? From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun Jun 19 20:15:56 2011 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:15:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck list Message-ID: Many years ago when I was restoring a 53 Chevy pickup, I was on a list like this spridget list that was very helpful. Does anyone know of such a list today? Dick Byrne in NH From hmortada at aol.com Sun Jun 19 17:27:18 2011 From: hmortada at aol.com (Mortada) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] HELP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CDFCEF9097755F-1830-648C0@Webmail-d109.sysops.aol.com> I Just finished restoring my 79 Midget and I have some questions hopefully someone from list can answer. 1-Does clutch adjusts, and where do I get to it? Currently the pedal is low, gears change fine. 2-I have play in the steering, is it the steering box or something has to do with the linkage and sway bar? 3-The car is idling rough, it has the Strombourg Carb in it with a K&N air filter. The vacuum canister is disconnected, should I attempt to get that restored. I believe there is an after market choke installed on it. The rough idling seems to happen when the car warms up. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you all. Hadi Mortada B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Rotary Club Of West Ottawa www.RCWO.org www.rotaryclubwestottawa.ca From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 20:31:10 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:31:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Google is your friend. I know there is a Ford truck list and forums and such. If there isn't one like you want, start it. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jun 19 20:51:13 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:51:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ Prefer stock vehicles, but a tolerant group. ...bill in corvallis ============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:16 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Truck list Many years ago when I was restoring a 53 Chevy pickup, I was on a list like this spridget list that was very helpful. Does anyone know of such a list today? Dick Byrne in NH _______________________________________________ From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Sun Jun 19 21:18:53 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <281455.62764.qm@web112716.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ok , i'll chime in here. i do some fibreglass work (have two tvr vixen bonnets here now) ( i also have a fiberglass bodied sports racer) . i have some of the elusive vintage release agent that was sprayed on and did in fact release a clean piece of cured 'glass. but due to federal regulations , those that "hug" trees , and the few that still "save the whales" this stuff is now "unobtanium". try plastic shrink wrap or duct tape as the release agent. while both give some wrinkles (like i'm not getting some at this point in life?) they do let the catalised plastic go easier than most other release agents. spray cooking stuff? dear lord what ya thinking? yer using grease or oil to release the part you might want to paint a color? paint does not like to stick to oil or grease..right? and if it combines with the uncured plastic ...how do ya get rid of it in order to get a finish to stick to it? ummm...you do not! the very last alternative is to find a local boat yard that does 'glass molds and ask them to shoot your piece for you. you might find it very suprising how friendly others who are into 'glass are when you have a genuine project. ;) i had the doors for my sports racer made by a local company that makes the fiero to ferrari gt40 panel kits. be repared for one suprise on fiberglass world. the color of the gell coat. if you are not particular it's not of importance. they will just shoot your piece in the beginning or end of their run. if you insist on a specific base gel coat color that will cost you! me , the color if the finished inside has no matter in the reflected exterior finish. so call me "cheap" or as frank would say "we broke". chuck ________________________________ From: Rick Bastedo To: derf Cc: SPRIDGETS Sent: Sun, June 19, 2011 2:50:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fiberglass question Thank you, I was considering tape - that could work. Veg oil? That's a thought. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:46 AM, derf wrote: > Oh, yeah, I forgot duct tape. And Pam cooking spray. > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, derf wrote: > > Do you live near a West Marine? _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From rich_ball at mindspring.com Mon Jun 20 09:53:47 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:53:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Truck list References: Message-ID: The list you seek is right here on Team.net. It is the oletrucks list. I used to be a member of that list years ago when I was helping my dad with his '58 Chevy. Almost as good as here. http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/oletrucks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:15 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Truck list > Many years ago when I was restoring a 53 Chevy pickup, I was on a list > like this spridget list that was very helpful. Does anyone know of such a > list today? > Dick Byrne in NH > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From kmappley at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 15:54:59 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:54:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Fiberglass question. Message-ID: Rick I agree with Charles. I was in the fiberglass business when younger making fiberglass gas tanks and seats for flat track bikes. If your doing a hobbiest job I would use Saran Wrap, I've done that in recent history on small repairs. Your finish won't be perfect but it will release and bondo will correct the flaws. If you want to go into production you need to get a lot more serious on your mold production. Plaster of paris will work for, maybe!, a prliminarry plug. Kurt. From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Jun 20 16:47:15 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:47:15 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] DR2 wiper motor question Message-ID: <20110620.164715.593.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> I couldn't figure out why my wiper motor wasn't working (I've never tried it before) so I took the housing apart, and the wire that attaches to the drag contact (the one inside the cover) goes into the stator housing is just hanging freely. Does anyone know where this wire hooks to? The Bentley manual is no use whatsoever. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4dffce24916a110ffa8st06duc From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Jun 20 20:41:02 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:41:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE 40 (Shameless plug for parts for sale) Message-ID: <000c01cc2fbc$a9773220$fc659660$@net> Shameless plug for parts for sale Am cleaning out some parts I had bought for the new BE project and decided I am not going in that direction and before I FleaBay them I wanted to see if anyone on here is interested in any of them. First is a new Weber DCOE40 with the soft mount kit and an air filter. It is new and has been stored in a bag BUT three pieces seem to have vanished (the spring clip which holds the air filter element to the base and two of the mounting bolts for the carb to manifold. I bought it quite some time ago and it has just sat in the cabinet. Moss #222-440 $849.00 I want 450.00 for it. The DCOE 40 is for 948 and 1098 motors More to come as I separate boxes out Leo From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 21:08:18 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:08:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE 40 (Shameless plug for parts for sale) In-Reply-To: <000c01cc2fbc$a9773220$fc659660$@net> References: <000c01cc2fbc$a9773220$fc659660$@net> Message-ID: That includes manifold and linkage? From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 22:26:36 2011 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Philip Jones) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:26:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator connector question Message-ID: <002701cc2fcb$6a815870$3f840950$@comcast.net> Hello MG friends! This question is regarding the alternator connector on my 1972 MGBGT; although I'm cross-posting to the Spridgets list as I think the connector is similar. I was on the freeway, driving back to Seattle from Reno (MG 2011) when my alternator light flickered a couple of times. Eventually, my wipers slowed, and my turn signals stopped working . . . and I switched my battery with the one in my travelling companion's car, my Dad's 1974 MGBGT. So I got home just fine; although the alternator light stopped working completely. I have a spare alternator at home, so I was planning on switching it out (after having the old one tested to ensure it's the problem). AND, in that light, when I was examining the connector that plugs into the alternator, the smallest wire (brown with a yellow stripe) came out of the contact in the connector! So two questions . . . First! Would an absence of connectivity on the brown/yellow result in the symptoms described? Second! How can I get the contact out of the connector, so I can clean up and repair? I've poked and prodded to no avail - I'm thinking there must be a retaining function, but I can't see it - and although the new alternator came with a new connector (and contacts), I can't tell how the old one works from looking at the new one. I've got a variety of happy endings available. I'm hoping that the old alternator is fine, and I can remove the old contact, clean, re-crimp, solder and re-install. Alternatively (no pun intended), I could cut the wires off and install the connector that came with the new alternator. I hate making wires shorter, though, because the opposite is so difficult. I'm looking forward to your input - thanks in advance for your help! Phil From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Tue Jun 21 05:56:51 2011 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:56:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE 40 (Shameless plug for parts for sale) In-Reply-To: <000c01cc2fbc$a9773220$fc659660$@net> References: <000c01cc2fbc$a9773220$fc659660$@net> Message-ID: <001701cc300a$4efea820$ecfbf860$@net> Forgot to add. That includes manifold, and linkage. Just like the kit Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leo Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:41 PM To: 'Spridgets'; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE 40 (Shameless plug for parts for sale) Shameless plug for parts for sale Am cleaning out some parts I had bought for the new BE project and decided I am not going in that direction and before I FleaBay them I wanted to see if anyone on here is interested in any of them. First is a new Weber DCOE40 with the soft mount kit and an air filter. It is new and has been stored in a bag BUT three pieces seem to have vanished (the spring clip which holds the air filter element to the base and two of the mounting bolts for the carb to manifold. I bought it quite some time ago and it has just sat in the cabinet. Moss #222-440 $849.00 I want 450.00 for it. The DCOE 40 is for 948 and 1098 motors More to come as I separate boxes out Leo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cathe125 at suddenlink.net From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 21 08:27:15 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:27:15 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Canberra was Re: Lancaster Message-ID: Hi for my sins after 40 years in the automotive industry I am now working in aerospace . My company had an openday at RAF Cosford on the saturday 18th June and arranged a fly past by a Meteor, Vampire and venom , The Meteor is similar looking to the Canberra but not as big. I took a few photos (a couple attached )and videos which I will download when I find somewhere to do it . The planes flew in from my local airfield at Baginton (Coventry) where they are based (and made in 1949 ). Alan Warwick UK The *Gloster Meteor*was the first British jet fighterand the Allies' first operational jet . Designed by George Carter , it first flew in 1943 and commenced operations on 27 July 1944 with 616 Squadron of the Royal Air Force (RAF). The Gloster Meteor was not an aerodynamically advanced aircraft but the Gloster design team succeeded in producing an effective jet fighter that served the RAF and other air forces for decades. Meteors saw action with the Royal Australian Air Force(RAAF) in the Korean War , and remained in service with numerous air forces until the 1970s. Two Meteors, *WL419* and *WA638*, remain in service with the Martin-Bakercompany as ejection seat testbeds [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCF4710.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCF4716.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCF4691.JPG] From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Tue Jun 21 10:13:29 2011 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:13:29 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] green cutaway midget Message-ID: Linda I was in the museum on Sunday and have seen this car several times before, didn't see it this time. I understood that the car had been sold in auction to a private dealer some time ago . I know we had the car on our midget spriite club stand at the annual Classic car show at the NEC Birmingham (November time ) either last year or probably the year before. Then I noticed the caption to the photo was in French, and there was reference to the spridget 50 - 3 years ago , which took place at Gaydon heritage museum, which is when I guess the photo was taken. It falls into place. The French spridget club 'amicale' were at the spridget 50 at Gaydon heritage with a thousand other spridgets . I do have some close up photos of the car - I can't get to them at the moment but a google image search for *apjones spridget 50* or *apjones classic car nec (on flickr) *might reveal something interesting. BTW the yellow car in the background is the current world land speed record holder for diesel engines which I did some work on a few years back . JCB dieselmax Rgds alan Warwick UK From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 10:32:42 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title Message-ID: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned about and have been working with the person who has the car in his possession. Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for storage fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, car BTW has not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up this car for a fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will likely need a rotiserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts and pieces are there. Here is the note I received this AM. Jim, My son was here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. As far as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we have no title and no matter how many times webve talked to xxxxx (the person looking after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a distant relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we are concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I know this is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for Japan the end of July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me know if you are still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know there are ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later on. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jun 21 11:03:12 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:03:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4859824C4DB34332975948E4BA3FD3EE@spider> What state is the car in? ============================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Gruber Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:33 AM To: Spridgets Digest Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned about and have been working with the person who has the car in his possession. Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for storage fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, car BTW has not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up this car for a fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will likely need a rotisserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts and pieces are there. Here is the note I received this AM. Jim, My son was here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. As far as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we have no title and no matter how many times webve talked to xxxxx (the person looking after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a distant relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we are concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I know this is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for Japan the end of July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me know if you are still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know there are ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later on. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 11:17:31 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:17:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sounds like a perfect arrangement for an attorney to get you a "Quiet Title"... Talk to a lawyer. Each state has differences in this law. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:32 AM, James Gruber wrote: > Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned > about and have been working with the person who has the car in his > possession. > Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid > storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for > storage > fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, > car BTW has > not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up > this car for a > fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will > likely need a > rotiserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts > and pieces are > there. Here is the note I received this AM. > > Jim, > > My son was > here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. > As far > as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was > looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we > have > no > title and no matter how many times web ve talked to xxxxx (the person > looking > after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a > distant > relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we > are > concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I > know this > is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for > Japan the end of > July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me > know if you are > still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. > I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know > there > are > ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later > on. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Tue Jun 21 11:18:14 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:18:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110621171814.NIJ4A.178920.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> The person who owns the hangar and who would be collecting the storage fees is the person that has legal claim to the car. He would have to file a lien on it with the department of motor vehicles in your state. He might have to come up with paperwork to support the storage fees. Every state probably does this a little differently. > Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned > about and have been working with the person who has the car in his possession. > Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid > storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for > storage > fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, > car BTW has > not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up > this car for a > fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will > likely need a > rotiserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts > and pieces are > there. Here is the note I received this AM. > > Jim, > > My son was > here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. > As far > as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was > looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we have > no > title and no matter how many times webve talked to xxxxx (the person > looking > after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a > distant > relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we > are > concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I > know this > is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for > Japan the end of > July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me > know if you are > still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. > I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know there > are > ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later > on. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bjshov8 at tx.rr.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 11:30:00 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:30:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Perhaps you should see if you could cover the costs for the hanger owner, to have a lawyer send them a letter of collection. That may spur some action out of the legal owner. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:32 AM, James Gruber wrote: > Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned > about and have been working with the person who has the car in his > possession. > Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid > storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for > storage > fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, > car BTW has > not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up > this car for a > fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will > likely need a > rotiserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts > and pieces are > there. Here is the note I received this AM. > > Jim, > > My son was > here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. > As far > as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was > looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we > have > no > title and no matter how many times web ve talked to xxxxx (the person > looking > after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a > distant > relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we > are > concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I > know this > is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for > Japan the end of > July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me > know if you are > still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. > I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know > there > are > ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later > on. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jun 21 11:35:06 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:35:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <4859824C4DB34332975948E4BA3FD3EE@spider> References: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4859824C4DB34332975948E4BA3FD3EE@spider> Message-ID: <201106211035419.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Disrepair...... ED --- At 12:03 PM 6/21/2011, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: >What state is the car in? >============================ >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Gruber >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:33 AM >To: Spridgets Digest >Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title From shelden3 at pldi.net Tue Jun 21 12:27:39 2011 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (cshelden) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:27:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In Oklahoma we have what is called a Title 42, essentially you can request a title based on storage and or lien. There are several independents that do this for you. Or you can do it your self. We have to post a public notice for so many days to seek out the "title owner" after that time you file some forms and pay the fees to the State. All said I usually spend about 50-75.00 to get a title. I say this to say there may be something very similar in your state. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:32 AM, James Gruber wrote: > Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned > about and have been working with the person who has the car in his > possession. > Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid > storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for > storage > fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, > car BTW has > not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up > this car for a > fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will > likely need a > rotiserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts > and pieces are > there. Here is the note I received this AM. > > Jim, > > My son was > here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. > As far > as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was > looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we > have > no > title and no matter how many times web ve talked to xxxxx (the person > looking > after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a > distant > relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we > are > concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I > know this > is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for > Japan the end of > July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me > know if you are > still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. > I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know > there > are > ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later > on. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/shelden3 at pldi.net From jjkan5 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 12:48:57 2011 From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <812896.55148.qm@web126003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Jim - See ORC 4505.101, http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4505.101 If I was in town I could help you, but I am working out of town until mid-next week. The owner of the storage area can easily get a title, then transfer title to you. John Kuzman --- On Tue, 6/21/11, James Gruber wrote: From: James Gruber Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title To: "Spridgets Digest" Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 12:32 PM Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned about and have been working with the person who has the car in his possession. Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for storage fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, car BTW has not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up this car for a fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will likely need a rotiserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts and pieces are there. Here is the note I received this AM. Jim, My son was here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. As far as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we have no title and no matter how many times webve talked to xxxxx (the person looking after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a distant relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we are concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I know this is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for Japan the end of July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me know if you are still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know there are ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later on. Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jjkan5 at yahoo.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jun 21 13:47:47 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:47:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What state is it in? They're all different. From dwgwater at hotmail.com Tue Jun 21 13:53:47 2011 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title In-Reply-To: <812896.55148.qm@web126003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <498298.73779.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <812896.55148.qm@web126003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The self storage industry has done a good job getting laws passed to make it easy for storage facilities to get title to and sell/dispose of all the stuff the gets abandoned in storage units. The statute John cites is an example. However, storage facilites also have written agreements and such when people leave their stuff that make clear why the stuff is being left. If this is a deal where the car owner had a handshake deal with the hanger owner, it will pay to talk to someone who can make sure the I's are dotted and the T's crossed. You'd hate to get caught in the middle of a fight in which the car owner decides to claim he left it with the hanger owner to be repaired and the hanger owner sold it out from under him. The owner has a title and the fact that you paid for for the car may not win if the title-holder can convince a judge the car was stolen. This is a potentially valuable car and you're getting it cheap. Spend a couple bucks on a lawyer who represents storage facilities and get a clean title. Dave > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:48:57 -0700 > From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net; thistle_3619 at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title > > Jim - > > See ORC 4505.101, http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4505.101 > > If I was in town I could help you, but I am working out of town until mid-next > week. The owner of the storage area can easily get a title, then transfer > title to you. > > John Kuzman > > --- On Tue, 6/21/11, James Gruber wrote: > > > From: James Gruber > Subject: [Spridgets] Need help in dealing with a missing title > To: "Spridgets Digest" > Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 12:32 PM > > > Folks I need some advice on how to deal with this one on a '59 BE I learned > about and have been working with the person who has the car in his > possession. > Car has been in storage in an airplane hangar for some time. It has unpaid > storage fees. Car was verbally given to my contact's son in exchange for > storage > fees and abandoned. The legal owner of this car who holds the title, > car BTW has > not been titled since '78, refuses to return calls. I can pick up > this car for a > fairly modest cost. I have not looked at this car but it will > likely need a > rotiserie restoration but it is unmolested and all of the parts > and pieces are > there. Here is the note I received this AM. > > Jim, > > My son was > here this past weekend and we discussed what to do with the Bug Eye. > As far > as we are concerned the car is yours. As you recall the person who was > looking after the car verbally gave the car to xxxxxmy son. However, we have > no > title and no matter how many times webve talked to xxxxx (the person > looking > after the car) he has not come up with a title from the owner, a > distant > relative of his wife. So if you want the car it is yours as far as we > are > concerned and you will have to deal with xxxxxx for title purposes. I > know this > is not a clean deal like we wanted but Rick will be leaving for > Japan the end of > July and needs hangar space to store his belongings. Let me > know if you are > still interested and when you would like to come to xxxxxx. > I need some advice from the group on how to deal with this one. I know there > are > ways.... but how best to deal with this so I don't have an issue later > on. > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jjkan5 at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwgwater at hotmail.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jun 21 14:09:16 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Road trip Message-ID: <1547179585.214800.1308686956281.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> If anyone is not planning to attend the Big Gathering, I will be leaving Elko, NV around the middle of July and driving north to Mt. Home, ID, west to Boise, then north across White Bird Summit to Lewiston, ID. Would love to meet for coffee or a soda. Kate From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jun 21 14:30:01 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Janspeed valve cover Message-ID: <921a.11dc8434.3b325948@aol.com> Hi List, A nice rarity if you like to like to be different. I'd bid on it myself except I already have one on my spare engine. In fact the only one I've ever seen in the metal is mine. _http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320716607356&ssPageNam e=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123_ (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320716607356&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123) Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 16:32:43 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:32:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Janspeed valve cover In-Reply-To: <921a.11dc8434.3b325948@aol.com> References: <921a.11dc8434.3b325948@aol.com> Message-ID: It is beautiful. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:30 PM, wrote: > Hi List, > > A nice rarity if you like to like to be different. I'd bid on it myself > except I already have one on my spare engine. In fact the only one I've > ever seen in the metal is mine. From an5.sprite at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 23:51:39 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:51:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] spam alert Message-ID: If you receive an email from the gmail service center it is most likely spam. steve From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jun 22 10:13:09 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:13:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap Message-ID: <4E021495.8090507@wi.net> Anyone out there know of a source for the "paper" gasket that seals the original metal cap on the M/C of a Bugeye or MGA 1500. I have 3 caps and only 2 gaskets both of which are quite compressed. Might have to make my own, right? TIA, Dave W. 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 -- Dave W. "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 10:15:25 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:15:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need info - (Kia Sedona front wheel bearing - very little Spridget content) Message-ID: Our Kia Sedona (2003) had a new front axle & hub installed on the passenger side about a year and a half ago. Now the wheel bearing on that side is going out. BillM has very graciously invited me over on Saturday to see about replacing this bearing. What I'm hoping for here is that someone who has access to All Data could send a bit of info along to me on this job. I'm thinking the hub needs to be removed, hopefully not the entire axle but maybe that too. So much bigger and more work than my Spridgets - but I guess it weighs about 4X what a Spridget weighs so it needs big beefy bits & pieces in there. Rick (part time accidental Kia mechanic) Bastedo From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jun 22 10:32:43 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:32:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Thought I'd pass this along.....interesting. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:51:08 -0400 From: Barrie Robinson To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net,mgs at autox.team.net Gentlemen, This is rather dynamite stuff especially to those who are hard into restoration. Can we have some expert opinions? >http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 22 10:39:58 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Janspeed valve cover Message-ID: <3617f.41af2f6.3b3374de@aol.com> And very rare. There is a photo of one in DVs book but I've never seen one on any Spridget. In a message dated 21/06/2011 23:32:44 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: It is beautiful. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 22 11:54:29 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:54:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap In-Reply-To: <4E021495.8090507@wi.net> References: <4E021495.8090507@wi.net> Message-ID: Wonder if you could cut a new one out of old blotter paper? ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Woerpel Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:13 AM To: MGs; Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap Anyone out there know of a source for the "paper" gasket that seals the original metal cap on the M/C of a Bugeye or MGA 1500. I have 3 caps and only 2 gaskets both of which are quite compressed. Might have to make my own, right? TIA, Dave W. 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 22 11:56:38 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:56:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need info - (Kia Sedona front wheel bearing - very little Spridget content) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try googling "Kia Sedona" removing axle 2003 =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:15 AM To: SPRIDGETS Subject: [Spridgets] Need info - (Kia Sedona front wheel bearing - very little Spridget content) Our Kia Sedona (2003) had a new front axle & hub installed on the passenger side about a year and a half ago. Now the wheel bearing on that side is going out. BillM has very graciously invited me over on Saturday to see about replacing this bearing. What I'm hoping for here is that someone who has access to All Data could send a bit of info along to me on this job. I'm thinking the hub needs to be removed, hopefully not the entire axle but maybe that too. So much bigger and more work than my Spridgets - but I guess it weighs about 4X what a Spridget weighs so it needs big beefy bits & pieces in there. Rick (part time accidental Kia mechanic) Bastedo _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 22 12:21:17 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:21:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: >> http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm I've been using them for well over 50 years. I feel like such a fool. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 22 12:26:04 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:26:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap In-Reply-To: <4E021495.8090507@wi.net> References: <4E021495.8090507@wi.net> Message-ID: <201106221126622.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Only if you have some NOS paper! Peter C - At 11:13 AM 6/22/2011, Woerpel wrote: >Anyone out there know of a source for the "paper" gasket that seals >the original metal cap on the M/C of a Bugeye or MGA 1500. I have 3 >caps and only 2 gaskets both of which are quite compressed. >Might have to make my own, right? > >TIA, >Dave W. >59 :{) >59 MGA 1500 > >-- >Dave W. >"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary >July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin >http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Jun 22 13:09:55 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: <800018731.246247.1308769795838.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> If these tired old eyes don't deceive me, it looked like the bolt threads had been lubricated. If so, I think the results would probablt be different with dry threads. Just my 3.5 cents (inflation, don't ya know!) -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Woerpel" wrote: > Thought I'd pass this along.....interesting. From grday at btinternet.com Wed Jun 22 13:18:25 2011 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:18:25 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap References: <4E021495.8090507@wi.net> Message-ID: <3D2C0FE9757F480F9B6FA42244E59671@user8634b3d69b> The last ones I had to make were from a 1gal / 5 litre plastic oil bottle. The 'rubber' mat I would have normally used failed the dissolving in brake fluid test. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woerpel" To: "MGs" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap > Anyone out there know of a source for the "paper" gasket that seals the > original metal cap on the M/C of a Bugeye or MGA 1500. I have 3 caps and > only 2 gaskets both of which are quite compressed. > Might have to make my own, right? > > TIA, > Dave W. > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > > -- > Dave W. > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary > July 18-24, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday at btinternet.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 13:52:37 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:52:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: I always wondered why BMW bikes all the way back into the 1920s used crescent spring washers on all fasteners.... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Woerpel wrote: > Thought I'd pass this along.....interesting. > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:51:08 -0400 > From: Barrie Robinson > To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net,mgs at autox.team.net > > > > Gentlemen, > > > This is rather dynamite stuff especially to those who are hard into > restoration. Can we have some expert opinions? > > > > >http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm > > Regards, > > Barrie Robinson > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > MGB GT V8 in great nick > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > www.britcot.com > www.AMFClub.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 13:55:41 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:55:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: I don't understand why everything around the bolt was moving but the bolt was not moving. If you bolt two things tightly together then they should both move when shaken, right? Does their test have any bearing in the real world? At first look it seems like junk science. OTOH, I'll be attending a Loctite seminar in the morning so maybe I can ask the Loctite guy. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 14:03:34 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:03:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: OK, here's a pic of a "Junker Test" setup. It holds the bolt head stationary and only moves 1/2 of the bolted joint. In situations similar to that in the real world (like on a Spridget) I think we use Castellated nuts. I can't think of a real world situation that is similar to the "Junker Test". Does anyone know of one? I wonder how the "Junker Test" does with chemical bonds (Loctite), and other forms of mechanical lock washers, besides the ones the video producers are trying to sell. http://mdmetric.com/nordlock/Nord-Lock%20-%20Junker%20test%20principle.htm From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 14:16:36 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: Do crescent spring washers perform better on that Junker Test? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 14:27:44 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:27:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: Here they name the test type as "transverse dynamic loads". How many of those are present on a Spridget? Usually when you bolt things together you don't insert needle bearings between them. Those needle bearings give the machine an advantage over the clamping force of the fastener. Again, for things of that sort in the real world we use Castellated nuts. We don't use helical spring lock washers on wheel bearing nuts, do we? http://www.boltscience.com/pages/junkertestvideo.htm Videos and propaganda like that make me wonder what they are selling and if it is so great why isn't it in more widespread use? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 14:47:53 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:47:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: Good question... BMW has always been pretty careful with *most* of their engineering. They must have had a well thought out reason for never using the split ring type... On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:16 PM, derf wrote: > Do crescent spring washers perform better on that Junker Test? > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 15:13:25 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:13:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: The Nordlock washers shown here are pretty much industry standard in the oil industry. They work excellent. Different principle from a spring washer but very simple. They are the only type approved for secondary retention on overhead loads offshore. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:04 PM To: Woerpel Cc: SPRIDGETS Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! OK, here's a pic of a "Junker Test" setup. It holds the bolt head stationary and only moves 1/2 of the bolted joint. In situations similar to that in the real world (like on a Spridget) I think we use Castellated nuts. I can't think of a real world situation that is similar to the "Junker Test". Does anyone know of one? I wonder how the "Junker Test" does with chemical bonds (Loctite), and other forms of mechanical lock washers, besides the ones the video producers are trying to sell. http://mdmetric.com/nordlock/Nord-Lock%20-%20Junker%20test%20principle.htm Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pondhopautomation at gmail.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 22 15:35:06 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: <44b7c.653f1706.3b33ba0a@aol.com> I think you already have the expert opinion. I don't think there are any spring washers on my Sprite as for some years now I've removed every one I've found. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 22/06/2011 19:06:15 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: Gentlemen, This is rather dynamite stuff especially to those who are hard into restoration. Can we have some expert opinions? >http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm Regards, From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 22 15:37:42 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: <44f33.781a8d9e.3b33baa6@aol.com> Loctite works really well with clean threads where there isn't a lot of heat. I like to lockwire bolt heads that screw into blind castings and I like to use nylock nuts a lot. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 22/06/2011 21:23:20 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: I wonder how the "Junker Test" does with chemical bonds (Loctite), and other forms of mechanical lock washers, besides the ones the video producers are trying to sell. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 16:03:29 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:03:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <44b7c.653f1706.3b33ba0a@aol.com> References: <44b7c.653f1706.3b33ba0a@aol.com> Message-ID: On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:35 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > I think you already have the expert opinion. I don't think there > are any > spring washers on my Sprite as for some years now I've removed > every one > I've found. My uncle was an aircraft mechanic with the USAF. In the early 1960's he told my father (my father was a machinist) that the USAF would not use the spring type lock washers because they served no useful purpose. They never settled that argument. Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Jun 22 16:56:02 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:56:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> Years ago a fastener sales rep/tech guy came and gave a short seminar on fastener usage where I used to work. He told us that helical spring washers were worthless as far as "locking". He told us a simple flat washer was just as effective as a "lock" washer. We asked him why they still made and sold them. He said "Because you keep buying them despite what we tell you." Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Woerpel wrote: > Thought I'd pass this along.....interesting. > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:51:08 -0400 > From: Barrie Robinson > To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net,mgs at autox.team.net > > > > Gentlemen, > > > This is rather dynamite stuff especially to those who are hard into > restoration. Can we have some expert opinions? > > > >> http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm > > Regards, > > Barrie Robinson > barrie at look.ca > 705-721-9060 > MGB GT V8 in great nick > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > www.britcot.com > www.AMFClub.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 17:36:06 2011 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:36:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Great post, I prefer elastic lock nuts. Any opinions? Lin On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Years ago a fastener sales rep/tech guy came and gave a short seminar on > fastener usage where I used to work. He told us that helical spring > washers > were worthless as far as "locking". He told us a simple flat washer was > just > as effective as a "lock" washer. We asked him why they still made and sold > them. He said "Because you keep buying them despite what we tell you." > > Rick > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Woerpel wrote: > > > Thought I'd pass this along.....interesting. > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! > > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:51:08 -0400 > > From: Barrie Robinson > > To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net,mgs at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > Gentlemen, > > > > > > This is rather dynamite stuff especially to those who are hard into > > restoration. Can we have some expert opinions? > > > > > > > >> http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm > > > > Regards, > > > > Barrie Robinson > > barrie at look.ca > > 705-721-9060 > > MGB GT V8 in great nick > > Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > > www.britcot.com > > www.AMFClub.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com From Miniac7 at aol.com Wed Jun 22 17:54:53 2011 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:54:53 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: 1275 bug eye Message-ID: <60711.499e26a6.3b33dacd@aol.com> Gerard, So are you suggesting that he doesn't need to swap out the original Bugeye radiator for the later Midget radiator? Also, what about his mention of the drive shaft. Does this or does it not need to be swapped to accommodate this conversion? Thank you, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini In a message dated 6/22/2011 1:37:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com writes: Hi Bill, Yes, most of it will bolt up. Not sure what you refer to as "rear end"; differential/3rd member = yes, rear axle housing =no. Radiator should work but you need the matching shroud and overflow tank. I've hear that a downflow in good condition actually cools better though. Gerard _http://gerardsgarage.com/_ (http://gerardsgarage.com/) --- In _midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com) , frenchww at ... wrote: > > > > I have an original '59 Bug eye. > > I think I have come to the decision to upgrade it with a 1275 cc engine and trany from a '71 midget. Also drive shaft and rear end. 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From pfeilmat at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 17:56:22 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:56:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <7BF40577-9955-453D-8973-D7D1303961BA@gmail.com> Lock nuts are great. If you want it to lock and not fall off until you really need it to, peen it. Matt P Sent from my iPod On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Great post, I prefer elastic lock nuts. Any opinions? > Lin > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > >> Years ago a fastener sales rep/tech guy came and gave a short seminar on >> fastener usage where I used to work. He told us that helical spring >> washers >> were worthless as far as "locking". He told us a simple flat washer was >> just >> as effective as a "lock" washer. We asked him why they still made and sold >> them. He said "Because you keep buying them despite what we tell you." >> >> Rick >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Woerpel wrote: >> >>> Thought I'd pass this along.....interesting. >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! >>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:51:08 -0400 >>> From: Barrie Robinson >>> To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net,mgs at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> >>> Gentlemen, >>> >>> >>> This is rather dynamite stuff especially to those who are hard into >>> restoration. Can we have some expert opinions? >>> >>> >>> >>>> http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Barrie Robinson >>> barrie at look.ca >>> 705-721-9060 >>> MGB GT V8 in great nick >>> Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >>> www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>> www.britcot.com >>> www.AMFClub.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From pvanwig at me.com Wed Jun 22 17:57:38 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:57:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> Message-ID: Elastic lock nuts are a one time use. Backing them off destroys the function. Lock tight is better. Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear pvanwig at Mac.com Sent from my iPhone So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons) On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Great post, I prefer elastic lock nuts. Any opinions? > Lin > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > >> Years ago a fastener sales rep/tech guy came and gave a short seminar on >> fastener usage where I used to work. He told us that helical spring >> washers >> were worthless as far as "locking". He told us a simple flat washer was >> just >> as effective as a "lock" washer. We asked him why they still made and sold >> them. He said "Because you keep buying them despite what we tell you." >> >> Rick >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Woerpel wrote: >> >>> Thought I'd pass this along.....interesting. >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! >>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:51:08 -0400 >>> From: Barrie Robinson >>> To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net,mgs at autox.team.net >>> >>> >>> >>> Gentlemen, >>> >>> >>> This is rather dynamite stuff especially to those who are hard into >>> restoration. Can we have some expert opinions? >>> >>> >>> >>>> http://www.boltscience.com/pages/helicalspringwashers.htm >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Barrie Robinson >>> barrie at look.ca >>> 705-721-9060 >>> MGB GT V8 in great nick >>> Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >>> www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>> www.britcot.com >>> www.AMFClub.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at me.com From rrengineer.mike at att.net Wed Jun 22 18:06:42 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:06:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap In-Reply-To: References: <4E021495.8090507@wi.net> Message-ID: <18C12ECD-375C-4FC3-AE89-404D242FCDBF@att.net> Victoria British sells a nice cork gasket for the original master cylinder cap. Mike MacLean Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:54, wrote: > Wonder if you could cut a new one out of old blotter paper? > > ============================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Woerpel > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:13 AM > To: MGs; Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap > > Anyone out there know of a source for the "paper" gasket that seals the > original metal cap on the M/C of a Bugeye or MGA 1500. I have 3 caps > and only 2 gaskets both of which are quite compressed. > Might have to make my own, right? > > TIA, > Dave W. > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike at att.net From pvanwig at me.com Wed Jun 22 18:09:27 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:09:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> Message-ID: <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Elastic lock nuts are a one time use. Backing them off destroys the function. Lock tight is better. Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear pvanwig at Mac.com Sent from my iPhone So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons) On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Great post, I prefer elastic lock nuts. Any opinions? > Lin From kmappley at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 18:35:27 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:35:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil guage hose?? Message-ID: Wondering if the group can give me suggestions for replacing the rubber hose to the oil guage. Confering with my parts guy about the single braid fuel hose that I'm using tells me that it is marginal. Kurt. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 22 19:05:46 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:05:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What about internal, external, and combination star washers? From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 20:06:26 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:06:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Nordlock washers are pretty much industry standard in the oil industry. They work excellent. Different principle from a spring washer but very simple. They are the only type approved for secondary retention on overhead loads offshore. No special nuts or fluids needed. Thanks Duncan From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jun 22 20:20:59 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:20:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] early master cylinder cap Message-ID: <53024.173.123.19.79.1308795659.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Thanks to all who responded. Looks like people have had success with Moss and V.B.. Well let you know! Dave W. From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 20:22:06 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:22:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: Paul, Not if you read the BMC technical bulletin on Nyloc nuts that came out in the mid 1950's. It clearly states that they can be reused, and I fact I and others have reused *good examples* for years and have not had a failure yet. I will try to find the the technical bulletin and send it to you or anyone else who is interested. Cheers, Curt On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Paul Van Wig wrote: > Elastic lock nuts are a one time use. Backing them off destroys the > function. > Lock tight is better. > > Paul Van Wig > Long Beach/Big Bear > pvanwig at Mac.com > Sent from my iPhone > So forgive the spelling (tiny buttons) > > On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Linda Grunthaner > wrote: > > > Great post, I prefer elastic lock nuts. Any opinions? > > Lin > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cnaarndt at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 20:49:50 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:49:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: Nylon locking nuts are somewhat reusable. For critical assemblies it is cheap to just replace them, though. I would like to see all the other lock washers and Loctite tested in that infernal machine. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 20:52:05 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:52:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil guage hose?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've always used a coil of copper on mechanical oil gauges. Hydraulic hose is high pressure resistant. They make braided stainless hoses for paintball guns that handle 600-5000PSI. From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Jun 22 20:59:00 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:59:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: <4567B66A-4B65-40DF-B15C-997629F38A56@chartermi.net> Reusing elastic lock nuts on cars is probably OK. Done it myself many times. But on my Ultralight airplane when a nut is removed it's replaced with a new nut. Reused elastic nuts do not have the same "locking" capability as new nuts. Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:22 PM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" wrote: > Paul, > > Not if you read the BMC technical bulletin on Nyloc nuts that came out in > the mid 1950's. It clearly states that they can be reused, and I fact I and > others have reused *good examples* for years and have not had a failure > yet. I will try to find the the technical bulletin and send it to you or > anyone else who is interested. > > Cheers, > > Curt > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Paul Van Wig wrote: > >> Elastic lock nuts are a one time use. Backing them off destroys the >> function. >> Lock tight is better. >> >> Paul Van Wig From aseippel at austin.rr.com Wed Jun 22 21:05:02 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:05:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <44b7c.653f1706.3b33ba0a@aol.com> References: <44b7c.653f1706.3b33ba0a@aol.com> Message-ID: <067201cc3152$58a96ec0$09fc4c40$@rr.com> This explains why British motorcycles disassemble themselves. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:35 PM To: dwoerpel at wi.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! I think you already have the expert opinion. I don't think there are any spring washers on my Sprite as for some years now I've removed every one I've found. Weslake-Monza 1330 From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 21:28:03 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:28:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <4567B66A-4B65-40DF-B15C-997629F38A56@chartermi.net> References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> <4567B66A-4B65-40DF-B15C-997629F38A56@chartermi.net> Message-ID: I would consider that a critical assembly. > But on my Ultralight airplane when a nut is removed it's replaced with a new > nut. Reused elastic nuts do not have the same "locking" capability as new > nuts. > > Rick From pondhopautomation at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 21:33:07 2011 From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:33:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: << I would like to see all the other lock washers and Loctite tested in that infernal machine.>> You can http://www.nord-lock.com/video/nl_us.wmv Thanks Duncan From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 21:56:41 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:56:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: I find the nord-lock video informative. I don't know what the bolt science guys are doing or selling. They didn't test Loctite, though. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Duncan Sinclair wrote: > << I would like to see all the other lock washers and Loctite tested in that > infernal machine.>> > > You can > > http://www.nord-lock.com/video/nl_us.wmv > > Thanks > Duncan From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 22:00:31 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:00:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: I have no argument with this logic as I'm a commercial airline pilot with 35 years experience. What works on cars I would not necessarily use in aviation. Curt AA 757/767 Pilot LAX On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, derf wrote: > Nylon locking nuts are somewhat reusable. For critical assemblies it > is cheap to just replace them, though. > > I would like to see all the other lock washers and Loctite tested in > that infernal machine. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 22:02:30 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:02:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: Cool. Tell Sully I said hello. > > Curt > AA 757/767 Pilot LAX From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 22:16:34 2011 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:16:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: Sully is great but, he had to land in a calm Hudson River in the daytime, tough enough to be sure. I fly the Hawaii routes, longest over water leg in the world and most of my flights are at night. I don't relish the idea of having to descend out of 37,000' with no power and possibly no lights to land in the Pacific ocean where the sea states are usually fairly high. But I fly a Boeing, and they are incredibly reliable airplanes, plus I'm not an Airbus fan to say the least. Curt On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, derf wrote: > Cool. Tell Sully I said hello. > > > > > > Curt > > AA 757/767 Pilot LAX From kk7ss at frontier.com Wed Jun 22 22:19:36 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 04:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1152606740.251806.1308802776475.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> A thought springs to mind. When I was contracted at NASA I was told that a) All bolts, nuts, etc were to be assembled dry (not lubricated), b) A lubricated bolt would not torque down correctly due to the change in friction and would be subject to greater stress. Is NordLock saying thats' wrong? -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid From pfeilmat at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 23:17:39 2011 From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:17:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <1152606740.251806.1308802776475.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1152606740.251806.1308802776475.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <80B6FE02-CDEE-41A5-A285-33763C239DF4@gmail.com> I think in aerospace applications assembling hardware dry or wet depends on the application. The airplane I spend my days toiling on we have tables for wet and dry torque. We also have instances where anti seize is to be applied or even some other types of lubricants to the threads of hardware as specified by engineering. There is one instruction that I get a chuckle over each time I do it. I have to apply this stuff called lube-loc to the hardware, torque to 95 lb in and then wait 30 minutes and re torque to 95 lb in. The fastener is never loose when the second torque is applied. That's same size fastener in a dry application is to be torqued to 29 to 44 lb in. The same is true for hydraulics (my specialty). We have wet torque figures and dry torque figures. I have never worked for NASA just the USAF, but I can say without a doubt, my airplane flys second highest when compared to the Shuttle! Matt P Sent from my iPod On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > A thought springs to mind. > > When I was contracted at NASA I was told that > a) All bolts, nuts, etc were to be assembled dry (not lubricated), > b) A lubricated bolt would not torque down correctly due to the change in friction and would be subject to greater stress. > > Is NordLock saying thats' wrong? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. > '65 Sprite - in process :( > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pfeilmat at gmail.com From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 23:50:28 2011 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:50:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <1152606740.251806.1308802776475.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1152606740.251806.1308802776475.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: If you check out the ARP web site you will see that they claim the use of a high pressure lubricant will reduce friction thereby putting more of your torque into bolt preload and making that preload more consistent. They don't recommend the use of lock tabs or lock washers on their fasteners. Hal On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > A thought springs to mind. > > When I was contracted at NASA I was told that > a) All bolts, nuts, etc were to be assembled dry (not lubricated), > b) A lubricated bolt would not torque down correctly due to the change in > friction and would be subject to greater stress. > > Is NordLock saying thats' wrong? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. > '65 Sprite - in process :( > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 06:02:58 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> <3EBA04BB-40F8-4F31-8FBF-0371E2B70FC0@chartermi.net> <7BACF164-5106-4C98-9E36-EF056066C14E@me.com> Message-ID: Sully and his actions are/were both amazing. His attitude was the best. "We'll be in the Hudson." Positive and decisive, he was, never doubting his command of the machine and his responsibility for lives in peril. The equipment performed well, too. I hope you never have to ditch in water at night. If you do, though, at least you know it can be done, without a doubt. Cheers, Derf On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote: > Sully is great but, he had to land in a calm Hudson River in the daytime, > tough enough to be sure. > > I fly the Hawaii routes, longest over water leg in the world and most of my > flights are at night. I don't relish the idea of having to descend out of > 37,000' with no power and possibly no lights to land in the Pacific ocean > where the sea states are usually fairly high. But I fly a Boeing, and they > are incredibly reliable airplanes, plus I'm not an Airbus fan to say the > least. > > Curt > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, derf wrote: >> >> Cool. Tell Sully I said hello. >> >> >> > >> > Curt >> > AA 757/767 Pilot LAX From bkitterer at me.com Thu Jun 23 07:08:00 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:08:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <1152606740.251806.1308802776475.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <1152606740.251806.1308802776475.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: NASA - i.e. space assets do not use "fluid" lubricants, as far as I know they do not use any lubricants but for a very different reason. When the assets go into space (vacuum) lubricants will out gas, these vapors will re-condense on the optics. This deteriorates / makes optical systems non-useable. There are almost no assets that do not have some type of optical system. So lubricants are a major no-no. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > A thought springs to mind. > > When I was contracted at NASA I was told that > a) All bolts, nuts, etc were to be assembled dry (not lubricated), > b) A lubricated bolt would not torque down correctly due to the change in friction and would be subject to greater stress. > > Is NordLock saying thats' wrong? > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. > '65 Sprite - in process :( > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bkitterer at mac.com From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 08:01:35 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:01:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ReOil guage hose?? Message-ID: Derf: Well coiled copper tube would work great except I have never seen a fitting like the one that go's on the guage. Paint gun hose has potential as well but was hoping for something simpler without alot of internet searching. Kurt. From miniac7 at aol.com Thu Jun 23 08:09:02 2011 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:09:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: 1275 bug eye In-Reply-To: References: <60711.499e26a6.3b33dacd@aol.com> Message-ID: <8CDFFC63CFA2C8B-1EC4-ACCFF@webmail-d161.sysops.aol.com> Thanks for confirming what I thought to be the case on both issues. I'll be going thru this same conversion this summer and wanted to make sure I was still headed down the correct path. Howard PS: It's killing me that I'll be missing the big Midget 50th Birthday Party -----Original Message----- From: Trevor Jessie To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Jun 23, 2011 9:54 am Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Re: 1275 bug eye Correct, he can use the original Bugeye radiator, but he will need a late 1275 thermostat housing that points in the correct direction. Original driveshaft can be used as well. -Trevor PS Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM, wrote: Gerard, So are you suggesting that he doesn't need to swap out the original Bugeye radiator for the later Midget radiator? Also, what about his mention of the drive shaft. Does this or does it not need to be swapped to accommodate this conversion? Thank you, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini In a message dated 6/22/2011 1:37:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com writes: Hi Bill, Yes, most of it will bolt up. Not sure what you refer to as "rear end"; differential/3rd member = yes, rear axle housing =no. Radiator should work but you need the matching shroud and overflow tank. I've hear that a downflow in good condition actually cools better though. Gerard http://gerardsgarage.com/ --- In midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, frenchww at ... wrote: > > > > I have an original '59 Bug eye. > > I think I have come to the decision to upgrade it with a 1275 cc engine and trany from a '71 midget. Also drive shaft and rear end. Front suspension also. > > The complete running gear. > > Question. > > Will it all just bolt up ? > > As I recall there could be a problem with the radiator?? > > Other thoughts?? > > Thanks, > > Bill French > Hilton Head, sc > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2) . __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity: New Members 2 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Jun 23 08:40:10 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:40:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110623144010.RU8US.76161.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> In heavy construction the bolts that are used to connect steel beams are a high strength material, significantly stronger than the bolts sold at HomeDepot. Bolted connections in structural steel are designed to utilize the full strength of the material, and it is hard to develop that strength if the bolts are not lubricated before installation. I've seen demonstrations of this using a Skidmore-Wilhelm machine. They put a bolt in the machine, put a bag over the gauge so you couldn't see it, then tightened the bolt to the proper torque. Then they would reveal the gauge and you could see what tension developed in the bolt. This demonstration was done with a variety of bolts such as straight out of the package, slightly rusted, lubricated, etc. The lubricated bolts would develop their full tension, the others wouldn't. > If you check out the ARP web site you will see that they claim the use of a > high pressure lubricant will reduce friction thereby putting more of your > torque into bolt preload and making that preload more consistent. They > don't recommend the use of lock tabs or lock washers on their fasteners. From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 23 08:42:22 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1644362565.254768.1308840142325.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Bob, I was thinking specifically of propulsion systems, flight surfaces, things that are attatched to other things, etc but excluding payloads. One interesting instance of an antenna failing to deploy on orbit was traced to a well-meaning (but mistaken) assembly tech who thought that lubricating the antenna (built something like a tubular slinky) would facilitate it's extending. He forgot that all lubricants become near-solids at the temps encountered in space. -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "Kitterer Bob" wrote: > NASA - i.e. space assets do not use "fluid" lubricants, as far as I > know they do not use any lubricants but for a very different reason. > When the assets go into space (vacuum) lubricants will out gas, these > vapors will re-condense on the optics. This deteriorates / makes > optical systems non-useable. There are almost no assets that do not > have some type of optical system. So lubricants are a major no-no. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 09:11:39 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: References: <4E02192B.4010404@wi.net> Message-ID: And they ain't cheep! http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/NORDLOCK-Lock-Washer-5RUX9?Pid=search $377 for 200 1/4" washers. And you need two per bolt. That's $3.77 per application. "We tight" club members need not apply. They are made in Sweden, so I guess you need a Saab to properly qualify. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Duncan Sinclair < pondhopautomation at gmail.com> wrote: > The Nordlock washers shown here are pretty much industry standard in the > oil > industry. They work excellent. > Different principle from a spring washer but very simple. > They are the only type approved for secondary retention on overhead loads > offshore. > > Thanks > Duncan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:04 PM > To: Woerpel > Cc: SPRIDGETS > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! > > OK, here's a pic of a "Junker Test" setup. It holds the bolt head > stationary and only moves 1/2 of the bolted joint. > In situations similar to that in the real world (like on a Spridget) I > think > we use Castellated nuts. > > I can't think of a real world situation that is similar to the "Junker > Test". Does anyone know of one? > I wonder how the "Junker Test" does with chemical bonds (Loctite), and > other > forms of mechanical lock washers, besides the ones the video producers are > trying to sell. > > http://mdmetric.com/nordlock/Nord-Lock%20-%20Junker%20test%20principle.htm > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pondhopautomation at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jun 23 10:11:25 2011 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1825653139.244339.1308845485765.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> When I flew to NY last year, I told the agent that I didn't care if they had to route me via the Falklands, as long as each leg was on a Boeing. I have a bad attitude - I like my planes to stay in the air until they're supposed to come down. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt/Nancy Arndt" To: "derf" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:16:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! Sully is great but, he had to land in a calm Hudson River in the daytime, tough enough to be sure. I fly the Hawaii routes, longest over water leg in the world and most of my flights are at night. I don't relish the idea of having to descend out of 37,000' with no power and possibly no lights to land in the Pacific ocean where the sea states are usually fairly high. But I fly a Boeing, and they are incredibly reliable airplanes, plus I'm not an Airbus fan to say the least. Curt From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 23 10:52:12 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: There is a debate about whether or not nylock or elastic lock nuts are a one time use or not. I re-use them if the flanks of the nut itself are ok. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 23/06/2011 01:25:57 GMT Daylight Time, pvanwig at me.com writes: Elastic lock nuts are a one time use. Backing them off destroys the function. Lock tight is better. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 23 10:53:00 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Star washers Re: Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: I don't use them either. In a message dated 23/06/2011 02:05:48 GMT Daylight Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: What about internal, external, and combination star washers? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jun 23 10:56:52 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lock tabs Re: Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: I don't use them either. In a message dated 23/06/2011 07:06:33 GMT Daylight Time, frog.aye at gmail.com writes: lock tabs From edwd at ti.com Thu Jun 23 11:04:32 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:04:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fastening fasteners Message-ID: Many moons ago I built equipment that hung under the wings of FA-18 fighting hornets. We mechanically shocked, vibrated, and accelerated the bejeebers out of that gear, per military specifications and contract. After all, in high G maneuvers and repeated slammings on the aircraft carrier decks, they were seeing real-life conditions that mimicked whatever we could throw at them and the Navy didn't want them coming apart, nor did I. We used Loctite, however our hardware not only had to be clean it had to be primered with a special Loctite promoter. We used different colors for different applications, and actually referred to Loctite green as 'liquid weld'. It didn't come apart without heat. The Loctite choice was relatively inexpensive and very effective. Anyways, it took a little diligence and called for a meticulous nature, but I'm sure that doesn't dissuade anyone here! I still employ what I learned then when working on equipment at home, especially my motorcycle. :) Ed Fisher Dallas, Tx From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 12:01:12 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:01:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fastening fasteners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just returned from a Loctite seminar. They have a lot of nice products that I was unaware of. They don't have a Hylomar equivalent but they do have things better than most other adhesives and sealants. The custom O-ring maker kit is impressive. They have a new tape that applies like Teflon tape which is pretty nice. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 12:07:47 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:07:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ReOil guage hose?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think that little fitting is soldered on. Can you use a straight brass union to connect the tubing? That clear, flexible plastic tubing for boost/vacuum gauges might work, too. I'm not sure what the working pressure is on it but if you look into it you will probably find it adequate. Something similar to Jeg's offerings might work: http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/KeywordSearchCmd?storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1&Ntk=all&Jnar=0&Ne=1%2B2%2B3%2B13%2B1147708&searchTerm=gauge+tubing+kit You would just have to adapt the end to the Spridget end. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 12:13:17 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:13:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: <20110623144010.RU8US.76161.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> References: <20110623144010.RU8US.76161.root@cdptpa-web27-z02> Message-ID: The lubricant does change the outcome of the torquing. One must be careful to use lubricant where specified but not use it if it isn't specified. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 12:24:32 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:24:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] fastening fasteners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I only recently started using Loctite and am still learning about it. However, prior to Loctite and for really critical applications I would often drill the bolt and nut and safety wire it. I learned about safety wiring in the Air Force.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Fisher, Ed wrote: > Many moons ago I built equipment that hung under the wings of FA-18 > fighting > hornets. We mechanically shocked, vibrated, and accelerated the bejeebers > out > of that gear, per military specifications and contract. After all, in high > G > maneuvers and repeated slammings on the aircraft carrier decks, they were > seeing real-life conditions that mimicked whatever we could throw at them > and > the Navy didn't want them coming apart, nor did I. We used Loctite, > however > our hardware not only had to be clean it had to be primered with a special > Loctite promoter. We used different colors for different applications, and > actually referred to Loctite green as 'liquid weld'. It didn't come apart > without heat. The Loctite choice was relatively inexpensive and very > effective. Anyways, it took a little diligence and called for a meticulous > nature, but I'm sure that doesn't dissuade anyone here! I still employ > what I > learned then when working on equipment at home, especially my motorcycle. > :) > > Ed Fisher > Dallas, Tx > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Thu Jun 23 12:38:20 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:38:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Mgs] Spring washers don't work ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110623183820.3EZHD.47775.root@cdptpa-web12-z01> IMO you can tell when you put them on how well they are going to work the second time. > There is a debate about whether or not nylock or elastic lock nuts are a > one time use or not. I re-use them if the flanks of the nut itself are ok. From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Jun 23 16:13:28 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:13:28 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Spring washers don't work ! Message-ID: <20110623.161328.10298.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Bob is correct, no 'fluid' lubricants are used, there are specific 'dry' lubes -spray on, bake out in vacuum oven, then use. that can be used in flight payload systems. The downside to that is that the fasteners are almost always Stainless Steel and dry stainless riding on dry stainless is also called 'welding' (or galling) Trying to remove an unlubricated screw from an unlubricated stainless tapped hole is the biggest PITA that I know of. Yes, lubricating a bolt will apply more stress to the bolt itself, simply because more of the rotational load (Torque) is going into the threaded interface, and less is going into the sliding friction of bolt to washer to whatever. that being said, a lubricated bolt, torqued properly, will ALWAYS apply the design load to the part interface, which a dry bolt will not. ALWAYS lubricate your head studs, main bearing bolts, and rod bolts -you'll not be sorry. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 NASA - i.e. space assets do not use "fluid" lubricants, as far as I know they do not use any lubricants but for a very different reason. When the assets go into space (vacuum) lubricants will out gas, these vapors will re-condense on the optics. This deteriorates / makes optical systems non-useable. There are almost no assets that do not have some type of optical system. So lubricants are a major no-no. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage On Jun 22, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > A thought springs to mind. > > When I was contracted at NASA I was told that > a) All bolts, nuts, etc were to be assembled dry (not lubricated), > b) A lubricated bolt would not torque down correctly due to the change in friction and would be subject to greater stress. > > Is NordLock saying thats' wrong? ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e03bacde1d671ab0fst05duc From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 23 16:58:16 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Project Honey Pot ( and no it isn't what you men are thinking) In-Reply-To: <180426258.261423.1308869855640.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1219534713.261425.1308869896099.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> My Internet tools show that this address ;200.199.218.35; is in Brazil!! I would not touch it with a 10ft pole! But then I could be wrong - ask my kids! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "krystine" wrote: > Kind of interesting, I get occasional junk mail on my old hotmail > email account. Mostly b Canadian Pharmacyb or sexually solicitous type > of crap (usually predictable) that I try to block but today when I was > emptying and blocking the addresses, I came across an odd one...the > subject line was in Arabic so I decided to trace to see if there was > any reason I should be concerned. My filter catches them but > attempting to block them each gets to be more a matter of principle. > > > I linked it back to a Saudi Arabian government site.... General > Authority of Civil Aviation, Saudi Arabia > http://www.gaca.gov.sa/gaca/home.aspx?l=en&PreveVal=2057|dw0FXlUGkMNy4uYe1LLy hiK6o+hs9sQrwn9GHkKAGxk=|EC4Zajga+8OEnkxTyqYCiA== > > > It was sent to me by this hotmail account: almalki3001 at hotmail.com > (all I did was google the email address and the IP) > Originating IP: 200.199.218.35 > > > 200.199.218.35 | Mail Server | Dictionary Attacker | IP Address ... > > The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP address > 200.199. 218.35 that is consistent with that of a Mail Server and > Dictionary Attacker. > www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_ 200.199.218.35 > > > Looking at this Project Honey Pot site, it represents itself as a > b help stop spammersb site. My questions for the computer literate of > this list are: > > > 1. > How do I know if the Project Honey Pot site is safe to log into? > 2. > Should I be at all concerned about this particular spammer, that seems > to be a new one (for me) and of Arabic origins? > 3. > Can anyone tell me what a dictionary attacker is? > > Ibve gotten so much good advice from many of you on this list that I > thought maybe one of you could help me again. It isnbt a matter of > life and death, simply curious, feel free to contact me off list. > > Thank you and I do apologize for taking up joke list space, > krystine > > _______________________________________________ > > 9issa mailing list > > 9issa at box267.bluehost.com > > http://box267.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/9issa_justbrits.com > > http://www.justbrits.com From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jun 24 05:32:21 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 04:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 68 MG Midget for sale Message-ID: <1308915141.50658.YahooMailClassic@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is my buddy Jeff Porasik's car, formerly Roger Heil's. This car is beautiful and fast, no expense spared. It is the 2nd car down, Yellow Midget: http://vscda.org/marketplace/ads.php Regards, Rom From kmappley at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 06:20:23 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:20:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels(wire). Message-ID: Its my understanding that British Wire Wheel is no longer. Also that Sumitomo summer performance tires are not available. Sooo--whats the best combination of wire wheels and tires and where would be the best place to purchase them?? Kurt. From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Jun 24 07:27:53 2011 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 06:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 68 MG Midget for sale In-Reply-To: <1308915141.50658.YahooMailClassic@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1308922073.75652.YahooMailClassic@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ron, Looks like a great group to race with, and a nice web site. I was checking race results, and wow, 26 formula vees at Blackhawk. I may have to pull my vintage vee down from the ceiling and finish that restoration. Used to run regularly in 30 car FV fields in the northeast in the 70's. Do you know who manufactures the spridget axles listed further down the For Sale page? I am not in the market at this time, I have Hayne's axles, but it would be good to file away for future use. Looks like a first class arrangement. John Fogelsville, PA - This is my buddy Jeff Porasik's car, formerly Roger Heil's. This car is beautiful and fast, no expense spared. It is the 2nd car down, Yellow Midget: http://vscda.org/marketplace/ads.php Regards, Rom From lindlaw at yahoo.com Fri Jun 24 10:09:47 2011 From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket Message-ID: <1308931787.77771.YahooMailClassic@web114702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Bubbles in my radiator and overheating with my 94 Celica, (2.2 litre) so it looks like time for a head resurfacing and gasket replacement. Any recomnmendations. I revall seeing on one of the Sprite discussions something about a "sticky" surfaced head gasket. Any comments, info or caveats about thgat type of gasket or other thoughts? Ed in SD also a 65 Mk.III since 1/69 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 11:52:14 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:52:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1308931787.77771.YahooMailClassic@web114702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1308931787.77771.YahooMailClassic@web114702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Whatever works on a Sprite will likely not work on a 94 Celica. You probably have an Aluminum head. I did a rebuilt head on a 94 Corolla. It wasn't too bad. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 11:55:56 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:55:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket In-Reply-To: References: <1308931787.77771.YahooMailClassic@web114702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Correction. It was a 1992 Corolla, but I think the motor is the same as the 94 Celica, except GT. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM, derf wrote: > Whatever works on a Sprite will likely not work on a 94 Celica. You > probably have an Aluminum head. > I did a rebuilt head on a 94 Corolla. It wasn't too bad. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Jun 24 13:48:05 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:48:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 49, Issue 63 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kurt, I have a complete, professionally refurbished set of 4, with brand new 155/80R-13 tires (still have new stickers on them) PM me for photos and details if you are interested. I also have the axles, hubs and brakes to go with if you are doing a conversion. Gerard On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:20:23 -0500 > From: Kurt Appley > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels(wire). > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Its my understanding that British Wire Wheel is no longer. Also that > Sumitomo summer performance tires are not available. Sooo--whats the > best > combination of wire wheels and tires and where would be the best > place to > purchase them?? > > Kurt. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Jun 24 13:50:18 2011 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:50:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels(wire). In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F7D8669-B85B-4C57-A209-52313FE63491@gerardsgarage.com> Kurt, I have a complete, professionally refurbished set of 4, with brand new 155/80R-13 tires (still have new stickers on them) PM me for photos and details if you are interested. I also have the axles, hubs and brakes to go with if you are doing a conversion. Gerard On Jun 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:20:23 -0500 > From: Kurt Appley > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels(wire). > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Its my understanding that British Wire Wheel is no longer. Also that > Sumitomo summer performance tires are not available. Sooo--whats the > best > combination of wire wheels and tires and where would be the best > place to > purchase them?? > > Kurt. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 17:41:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:41:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Caravan from Florida/Georgia Area Message-ID: Hello all, A few people are coming to the big party from Florida and Georgia and would like to caravan with anyone else coming from that area... If you are interested please email Jack Orkin and/or Paul Flexner and let them know the details.... "Jack Orkin" "Paul Flexner" -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 19:25:46 2011 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:25:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed Message-ID: I've got a pair of SU's for my 73 Midget that I'm hoping to rebuild. I'm not the least bit familiar with SU carbs other than having browsed several guides found online about the operation and maintenance of them. I've begun cleaning / disassembling the carbs but the pistons are stuck in the suction chambers. I've also attempted to unscrew and remove the piston dampers from the top of the chambers and, while the knob on top will unscrew, the damper will not come out the top either (it should; shouldn't it?). I've tried soaking one of them in a parts cleaner for several days now with no apparent progress. Any suggestions / recommendations on how to get these apart? From pchast at francomm.com Fri Jun 24 20:40:58 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:40:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmm. You have an unknown situation I'd proceed as follows.... You have the top of the chamber off and it will not move OR you have the piston out and can not separate the chamber? Have you removed the bottom jet chamber.. I don't remember what to call it. first possibility: Clearances are tight. things must be square and parallel. In either case get some really light oil like a penetrant and saturate things. Let it sit for a day. Using a - really light- plastic mallet tap the sides and top of the case. If it was slightly separated tap it back together. More oil. try to turn things by hand - no pliers... Fiddle some more. eventually it will separate. Second possibility is gummed up gas. get Seafoam and drown the carb in it after draining the oil for an hour. let sit for several hours. try to turn by hand. slosh it around and drain. new Seafoam. repeat. On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:25:46 -0400, J Foster wrote: > > I've got a pair of SU's for my 73 Midget that I'm hoping to rebuild. > I'm not the least bit familiar with SU carbs other than having browsed > several guides found online about the operation and maintenance of > them. > > I've begun cleaning / disassembling the carbs but the pistons are > stuck in the suction chambers. I've also attempted to unscrew and > remove the piston dampers from the top of the chambers and, while the > knob on top will unscrew, the damper will not come out the top either > (it should; shouldn't it?). > > I've tried soaking one of them in a parts cleaner for several days now > with no apparent progress. Any suggestions / recommendations on how > to get these apart? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pchast at francomm.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 21:28:03 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:28:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Get some good used top ends and start with them. The ones you have will probably never work just right, IMHO. I highly recommend a single SU HIF and matching intake, but twin SUs are good, too. Cheers, Derf From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Jun 24 21:49:22 2011 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:49:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <222A32457C934AF2B0356566DA5DBD26@blackbox2> The caps should unscrew and pull out relatively easy. It sounds like you've got some serious corrosion. If the corrosion is bad, I'm not sure you will ever get these operating correctly. Take a look at these videos on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GRAcqDySog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Bj_2cZQnc&feature=relmfu -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J Foster Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:26 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed I've got a pair of SU's for my 73 Midget that I'm hoping to rebuild. I'm not the least bit familiar with SU carbs other than having browsed several guides found online about the operation and maintenance of them. I've begun cleaning / disassembling the carbs but the pistons are stuck in the suction chambers. I've also attempted to unscrew and remove the piston dampers from the top of the chambers and, while the knob on top will unscrew, the damper will not come out the top either (it should; shouldn't it?). I've tried soaking one of them in a parts cleaner for several days now with no apparent progress. Any suggestions / recommendations on how to get these apart? Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001 at comcast.net From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 22:18:09 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How old are these carbs and when was the last time they had any oil in them. Sounds as if you may have a corrosion problem in which case you may be replacing parts there.... Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM, J Foster wrote: > I've got a pair of SU's for my 73 Midget that I'm hoping to rebuild. > I'm not the least bit familiar with SU carbs other than having browsed > several guides found online about the operation and maintenance of > them. > > I've begun cleaning / disassembling the carbs but the pistons are > stuck in the suction chambers. I've also attempted to unscrew and > remove the piston dampers from the top of the chambers and, while the > knob on top will unscrew, the damper will not come out the top either > (it should; shouldn't it?). > > I've tried soaking one of them in a parts cleaner for several days now > with no apparent progress. Any suggestions / recommendations on how > to get these apart? > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 25 05:54:48 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC Message-ID: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Anyone know of an "affordable" place that does chrome plating in the Charleston, SC area? Or even someplace I can ship my stuff to that is reasonable. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Jun 25 06:25:10 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:25:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2E34C95BB7E34F119A556DC6C108E6DA@Home> > I highly recommend a single SU HIF and matching intake, I got an HIF6 from a Harley Hog - all chrome and polish - on eBay for $50. They are relatively common. It has a brass primer pump that should shine up nicely and no vacuum takeoff. I will be using a 123 distributor, so that doesn't matter. I did have Maniflow put in a blanked take-off on the manifold, just in case. Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From bkitterer at me.com Sat Jun 25 06:59:27 2011 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:59:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Look out Philly - NJ Message-ID: <7E55A5DD-60C7-43F7-886D-AE5792564642@me.com> Hello all in the Philly / NJ area. We are going to be in those areas late this coming week (end of June) and probable over the weekend. Anything going on or anyone interested in a quick get together for lunch/dinner ? We will be crossing from southeast PA to Philly. Bob Kitterer and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 07:14:56 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ed, I used to get chroming done for motorcycle restorations. Lately, two things have happened. First, the EPA and OSHA have driven many chroming businesses under. Second, many of the companies left in business do a pretty shabby job of re-chroming cutting corners on materials, time and preparation. Google gives this for the south carolina area but be wary: http://www.thomasnet.com/south-carolina/chromium-plating-61520805-1.html Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > Anyone know of an "affordable" place that does chrome plating in the > Charleston, SC area? Or even someplace I can ship my stuff to that is > reasonable. > > > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 07:35:54 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:35:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Plating is a dying art. Some still do it, but hardly any do it well. It is cheaper to get a crappy job done on a crappy piece of steel and ship it across an ocean than to make good old steel shiny and lustrous again. From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 25 07:51:56 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: References: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <312031.34750.qm@web160812.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I think a big part of it is that it is so over-regulated now because of the chemicals used. I can't imagine what some of these shops have to go through to stay in business. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: derf To: Edward Perez Cc: "Spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC Plating is a dying art. Some still do it, but hardly any do it well. It is cheaper to get a crappy job done on a crappy piece of steel and ship it across an ocean than to make good old steel shiny and lustrous again. From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 25 09:18:08 2011 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: References: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <299685.30403.qm@web160808.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I'm gonna see if I can get a "ballpark" estimate from this place. They look pretty reputable. http://nu-chrome.com/about.htm Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Jim Johnson To: Cc: "Spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC Ed, I used to get chroming done for motorcycle restorations. Lately, two things have happened. First, the EPA and OSHA have driven many chroming businesses under. Second, many of the companies left in business do a pretty shabby job of re-chroming cutting corners on materials, time and preparation. Google gives this for the south carolina area but be wary: http://www.thomasnet.com/south-carolina/chromium-plating-61520805-1.html Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > Anyone know of an "affordable" place that does chrome plating in the > Charleston, SC area? Or even someplace I can ship my stuff to that is > reasonable. > > > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140 at yahoo.com From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Sat Jun 25 10:36:31 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 11:36:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: <299685.30403.qm@web160808.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <299685.30403.qm@web160808.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E060E8F.1080200@tx.rr.com> I did a quick check and found one large company listed in my metropolitan area. I see plating done on the car shows, and it is probably done on the custom motorcycles too. If you have any custom car shops or custom motorcycle shops in your area, you could call and ask them. If nothing else since there is more car activity in LA you could look up a place there and ship your parts to them. This is slightly off topic, but I was watching one of the car shows on tv recently and they "chromed" an entire Audi R8. They used a paint process that used a solution of silver nitrate and mixed it with another chemical. Essential they sprayed 2 different paint components on the car at the same time, and when the chemicals mixed it caused the silver to precipitate out of solution and in a matter of seconds the car turned silver. Then they sprayed clear over it and the result was as if the car was chrome plated. > I'm gonna see if I can get a "ballpark" estimate from this place. They look > pretty reputable. > > http://nu-chrome.com/about.htm From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jun 25 11:59:31 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:59:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: <299685.30403.qm@web160808.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <299685.30403.qm@web160808.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E062203.4030904@justbrits.com> Guys, the "best" recommendation for chroming I can think of comes from a conversation I had with Frank a few months back; He told me he had been using "Paul's Chrome". Goggle, or get back to me. They are located in Frank's "beloved" PENN !! Me From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 12:06:51 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: <4E060E8F.1080200@tx.rr.com> References: <102683.9578.qm@web160818.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <299685.30403.qm@web160808.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4E060E8F.1080200@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Interesting about the R8... If it is clear coat over some paint mix then I doubt it would be as durable as real electroplated chrome when out on the highways and byways. You can scratch or wear clear coat off. You can't do that to real chrome which is why chrome is used to begin with. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:36 AM, BJNoSHOV8 wrote: > I did a quick check and found one large company listed in my metropolitan > area. I see plating done on the car shows, and it is probably done on the > custom motorcycles too. If you have any custom car shops or custom > motorcycle shops in your area, you could call and ask them. > > If nothing else since there is more car activity in LA you could look up a > place there and ship your parts to them. > > This is slightly off topic, but I was watching one of the car shows on tv > recently and they "chromed" an entire Audi R8. They used a paint process > that used a solution of silver nitrate and mixed it with another chemical. > Essential they sprayed 2 different paint components on the car at the same > time, and when the chemicals mixed it caused the silver to precipitate out > of solution and in a matter of seconds the car turned silver. Then they > sprayed clear over it and the result was as if the car was chrome plated. > > > I'm gonna see if I can get a "ballpark" estimate from this place. They >> look >> pretty reputable. >> >> http://nu-chrome.com/about.htm >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jun 25 14:23:58 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:23:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: These guys are nowhere near you, but they're good. They're especially good at not losing small parts. BZ http://southbaychrome.com/ http://www.chromeplating.com/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 14:25:24 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:25:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chrome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There's a lot to be said for that, Billy!! I wish I had a nickel for every odd shaped bit that disappeared at the platers!! Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > These guys are nowhere near you, but they're good. They're especially good > at not losing small parts. > BZ > http://southbaychrome.com/ > http://www.chromeplating.com/ > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kmappley at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 14:31:35 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:31:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re [Spidgets] Crome plating near Charleston SC Message-ID: I've had chrome plating done by Sioux Plating in S Sioux City Neb for over 40 years. They do good work though lately a bit pricey. I think the biggest problem with chrome shop's is that nothing has plating on it anymore. These guys survive by doing industrial plating plus other metal's and they got into the business of recycling rubber bumpers plus distributing new rubber bumpers. You do what you got to do!! Kurt. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sat Jun 25 14:43:02 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:43:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] points for 948 Message-ID: <003001cc3378$7a6e68d0$6f4b3a70$@net> Are points for a 948 available at any auto parts stores and if so which and the part number s for condenser and points? Also is there an easy way to check a petronics or "flamethrower" module? Leo From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 18:08:26 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:08:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re [Spidgets] Crome plating near Charleston SC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Too true, Kurt. Of course the EPA hasn't helped platers any either as they have regulated the crap out of the plating and etching chemicals and environments to the point that doing *real* plating costs more than most people are willing to pay. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > I've had chrome plating done by Sioux Plating in S Sioux City Neb for over > 40 years. They do good work though lately a bit pricey. I think the biggest > problem with chrome shop's is that nothing has plating on it anymore. These > guys survive by doing industrial plating plus other metal's and they got > into the business of recycling rubber bumpers plus distributing new rubber > bumpers. > You do what you got to do!! > > Kurt. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 19:46:31 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:46:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] points for 948 In-Reply-To: <003001cc3378$7a6e68d0$6f4b3a70$@net> References: <003001cc3378$7a6e68d0$6f4b3a70$@net> Message-ID: Leo, Are you trying to test a petronix coil or points? I had found someplace on the internet a test for the distributor, can't find it now but will look some more. It may have been as simple as taking out the distributor and hooking a multi-meter to the leads and seeing if the resistance value changes as you spin the shaft. Steve On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Are points for a 948 available at any auto parts stores and if so which and > the part number s for condenser and points? Also is there an easy way to > check a petronics or "flamethrower" module? > > > > Leo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/an5.sprite at gmail.com From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 07:29:30 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:29:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch problem re-visited Message-ID: Sorry if you get this twice, first email did not seem to get posted. I am now completely baffled.After reading all the suggestions, I was convinced the problem with the 1st motion shaft not stopping was most likely the release bushing failing prematurely or possibly still the pilot bushing. I went to start removing the engine and tranny since fixing either one requires taking it apart. But just before I started to turn wrenches, I started the car and all is now working just fine. I can get into both reverse and forward with NO crunching so nothing is spinning while idling. Other gears move in and out like butter. No strange noises. This would be great, except I hate not knowing what is about to give me trouble. I have not yet let it get fully warm yet, still want to crawl under and look inside the bell housing through the clutch fork opening. The problem only happened last time after driving about 20 minutes. Anybody have any ideas on what to check? I can remove the rubber plug from the top of the tranny but do not know what i will be able to see due to the battery shelf right on top. Thanks Steve From an5.sprite at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 07:33:09 2011 From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:33:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch problem re-visited Message-ID: List, Sorry if you get this twice, first email did not seem to get posted. I am now completely baffled.After reading all the suggestions, I was convinced the problem with the 1st motion shaft not stopping was most likely the release bushing failing prematurely or possibly still the pilot bushing. I went to start removing the engine and tranny since fixing either one requires taking it apart. But just before I started to turn wrenches, I started the car and all is now working just fine. I can get into both reverse and forward with NO crunching so nothing is spinning while idling. Other gears move in and out like butter. No strange noises. This would be great, except I hate not knowing what is about to give me trouble. I have not yet let it get fully warm yet, still want to crawl under and look inside the bell housing through the clutch fork opening. The problem only happened last time after driving about 20 minutes. Anybody have any ideas on what to check? I can remove the rubber plug from the top of the tranny but do not know what i will be able to see due to the battery shelf right on top. Thanks Steve From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jun 26 16:49:50 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:49:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget Message-ID: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> Put a new top on the Party Midget today. Took me about 4 hours (which included a bunch of stare time) and it came out really well! Also took it for the first drive today and found the brakes need some attention and the rear end is noisy. Checked the gear oil and it took ten ounces to fill it up. Anyone have a magic elixir to quiet down a noisy diff? Rick '79 Party Midget '59 & '61 Sprites From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 17:19:36 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget In-Reply-To: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> References: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> Message-ID: Sawdust? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Put a new top on the Party Midget today. Took me about 4 hours (which > included a bunch of stare time) and it came out really well! Also took it > for > the first drive today and found the brakes need some attention and the rear > end is noisy. Checked the gear oil and it took ten ounces to fill it up. > Anyone have a magic elixir to quiet down a noisy diff? > > Rick > '79 Party Midget > '59 & '61 Sprites > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jun 26 17:32:05 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:32:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Motorhead 101 - Austin 1800 ute / van mk2 | eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E07C175.30802@justbrits.com> ZERO bids ?? Criminal, I say, CRIMINAL !!! I most definitely wish I had the bread !! Vehicle is BEAUTIFUL IMNSHO !!!!! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *submitted by Paul K. of Beenleigh, Australia To: Rick F.: *Something a little different from this part of the world - Check it out http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/austin-1800-ute-van-mk2-/260794836396?pt=AU_Cars& hash=item3cb89565ac XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX or http://tinyurl.com/6dd4bc6* * Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ * * From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Jun 26 17:32:14 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Prestige Auto Tops Message-ID: <1978868974.198324.1309131134971.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Anybody use them...heard of them?B Have Pictures? They have good prices. 266 for a top $258 for a tonneau supposedly original quality.B they have lower quality for lower prices as well as modern Miata fabric styles for more money. let me know Ryan From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jun 26 17:33:01 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:33:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget In-Reply-To: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> Message-ID: > Anyone have a magic elixir to quiet down a noisy diff? Keep the new top down. From pvanwig at me.com Sun Jun 26 17:32:50 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:32:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget In-Reply-To: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> References: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> Message-ID: <77D0C46E-D08C-4BDD-BEA8-9E4C7BE1F71B@me.com> I've always heard the used car salesman trick of banana peals ;) Paul Van Wig Long Beach/Big Bear pvanwig at mac dot com On Jun 26, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Put a new top on the Party Midget today. Took me about 4 hours (which > included a bunch of stare time) and it came out really well! Also took it for > the first drive today and found the brakes need some attention and the rear > end is noisy. Checked the gear oil and it took ten ounces to fill it up. > Anyone have a magic elixir to quiet down a noisy diff? > > Rick > '79 Party Midget > '59 & '61 Sprites > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig at me.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 26 17:40:40 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:40:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget In-Reply-To: References: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> Message-ID: <751D62B488A9443CBFA454ABEA2F5597@HomePC> Banana peels? -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:19 PM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Party Midget Sawdust? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Put a new top on the Party Midget today. Took me about 4 hours (which > included a bunch of stare time) and it came out really well! Also took it > for > the first drive today and found the brakes need some attention and the > rear > end is noisy. Checked the gear oil and it took ten ounces to fill it up. > Anyone have a magic elixir to quiet down a noisy diff? > > Rick > '79 Party Midget > '59 & '61 Sprites > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jun 26 18:07:31 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:07:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget In-Reply-To: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> References: <47B0D38329474AEC9D9A96381D89244F@RickPC> Message-ID: They make really heavy stuff (up to 300 wt) but you could start with 90-140. ===================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:50 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget Put a new top on the Party Midget today. Took me about 4 hours (which included a bunch of stare time) and it came out really well! Also took it for the first drive today and found the brakes need some attention and the rear end is noisy. Checked the gear oil and it took ten ounces to fill it up. Anyone have a magic elixir to quiet down a noisy diff? Rick '79 Party Midget '59 & '61 Sprites _______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jun 26 18:11:17 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:11:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Motorhead 101 - Austin 1800 ute / van mk2 | eBay In-Reply-To: <4E07C175.30802@justbrits.com> References: <4E07C175.30802@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Looks really nice and I wouldn't mind having it parked alongside my Ute, BUT that's nearly $42,000 USD! Probably better than $45K by the time you add shipping and customs fees. That's a bunch of cash! LAD -----Original Message----- From: Shop at " Just Brits " Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:32 PM To: 4 - Healeys ; 4 - Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motorhead 101 - Austin 1800 ute / van mk2 | eBay ZERO bids ?? Criminal, I say, CRIMINAL !!! I most definitely wish I had the bread !! Vehicle is BEAUTIFUL IMNSHO !!!!! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *submitted by Paul K. of Beenleigh, Australia To: Rick F.: *Something a little different from this part of the world - Check it out http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/austin-1800-ute-van-mk2-/260794836396?pt=AU_Cars& hash=item3cb89565ac XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX or http://tinyurl.com/6dd4bc6* * Ed 1] Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com 2] Please visit Frank C.'s site at: www.spritenut.com Article(s) and/or pictures REQUESTED ! 3] Don't miss the big Midget 50th Birthday Party at: "Road America" in beautiful Elkhart, WI !! http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ * * Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jun 26 19:52:48 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:52:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Prestige Auto Tops In-Reply-To: <1978868974.198324.1309131134971.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1978868974.198324.1309131134971.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <47BD64E2793D41AB98A3158DF3B469F7@RickPC> Ryan, I have no knowledge of Prestige tops. But........I bought a new top for the Party Midget on ebay from Topsonline.com. $229 including shipping for a vinyl top and I had a 10% off eBay coupon. They also offer a cloth top for $329. I'm impressed with the quality and fit. On their website they say they have all of the old AMCO patterns for tops, tonneaus, and boot covers. Their shipping was quick too - I ordered it on the 12th and got it on the 17th. Here is a link to the top I bought - http://tinyurl.com/63m965e NFI, just a happy customer Rick '79 Party Midget ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 7:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Prestige Auto Tops > Anybody use them...heard of them?B Have Pictures? > > They have good prices. > > 266 for a top > > $258 for a tonneau > > supposedly original quality.B they have lower quality for lower prices as > well as modern Miata fabric styles for more money. > > let me know > > Ryan From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jun 26 20:06:48 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:06:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Motorhead 101 - Austin 1800 ute / van mk2 | eBay In-Reply-To: References: <4E07C175.30802@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <4E07E5B8.3000806@justbrits.com> << That's a bunch of cash! >> $35 on your door steps, Larry ??????? Moi PS: "If" only I had the cash................................. ! ! ! From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 04:48:01 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket In-Reply-To: <1308931787.77771.YahooMailClassic@web114702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1308931787.77771.YahooMailClassic@web114702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1309171681.27091.YahooMailRC@web112708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ed, having been a toyota parts man for the service dept and body shop i can tell you with certainty that you will benifit from not folowing the same exact proceedures of spridget repairs on your car. there are good ftermarket head sets out there but i do know there is a varying quality in the manufacturing of them. so if you choose to not go to toyota for the gasket be certain to get a well known type like fel-pro or similar type. definitly have the head checked , with care taken to the area of gasket failure as well as replace the valve seals while apart. best of luck in the repair. i have a 1989 buick 3.8l v6 waiting for me to do head gaskets on right now.... chuck. ________________________________ From: Ed Lindley To: 1-AH-9issa <9issa at justbrits.com>; 1-Locost ; 1-Spridgets ; 1-Toyota Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 12:09:47 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket Bubbles in my radiator and overheating with my 94 Celica, (2.2 litre) so it looks like time for a head resurfacing and gasket replacement. Any recomnmendations. I revall seeing on one of the Sprite discussions something about a "sticky" surfaced head gasket. Any comments, info or caveats about thgat type of gasket or other thoughts? Ed in SD also a 65 Mk.III since 1/69 _______________________________________________ From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 04:55:48 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1309172148.66382.YahooMailRC@web112706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> well others have said it pretty well. it's unusual for a su to have the piston get stuck in the top part of the carb. it had to sit with water in the thing for quite a bit to displace the oil that would usually be in it and allow enough time for the piston to corrode enough to sieze itself to both the brass bit on the top cap as well as the top part of the carb. if you get it apart i'm willing to bet the pieces you extract will be of no use any longer even after you clean them up. while the tolerances between the piston and top piece as well as the piston or dampner are rather vauge or loose , i'm positive these bits are pretty much a shop shelf conversation piece now. i just brought a box of used bits and pieces of su carbs from my old shop. to my horror the shop's roof has begun to leak and i'm fearing seeing what the mess of parts has turned into. i saw enough corrosion at a glance to make me just load the parts into my van for attention another day. i might have a good pair of pistons and tops. i need to look later today or tomorrow if you are interested. chuck. ________________________________ From: J Foster To: Spridget list Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 9:25:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] SU help needed I've got a pair of SU's for my 73 Midget that I'm hoping to rebuild. I'm not the least bit familiar with SU carbs other than having browsed several guides found online about the operation and maintenance of them. I've begun cleaning / disassembling the carbs but the pistons are stuck in the suction chambers. I've also attempted to unscrew and remove the piston dampers from the top of the chambers and, while the knob on top will unscrew, the damper will not come out the top either (it should; shouldn't it?). I've tried soaking one of them in a parts cleaner for several days now with no apparent progress. Any suggestions / recommendations on how to get these apart? _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From kmappley at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 05:06:10 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:06:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Crome plating near Charlston SC Message-ID: Jim, I'm sure government over regulation is a concern for my plater's but I don't believe I've heard them complain. You don't want this stuff going down the storm sewers or wafting thru the air. Their head guy in the plating shop that has been there for most of 40 years and the guy I've always wanted to do my stuff has terminal cancer and won't be working much longer. I can't help but suspect what he's done most of his life. Kurt. From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 05:33:27 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 04:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Crome plating near Charlston SC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1309174407.55093.YahooMailRC@web112708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> a large number of small plating shops around the area are long closed and most are fenced in with no trespassing signs being considered toxic waste sites awaiting the "x" number of inches of soil removed and probably the building getting torn down in order to remove the toxic stuff of years of spills , careless dumping , etc.. the remaing shops are very meticulous about their chemical management. itravel to york pa. from here to hand deliver all my cadmium plating and retrieve the stuff. some of what i semd out i do not trust it to come back without chaffing dmaging finish or can not afford it's getting lost in shipping. so i do from time to time get to see the inside of their operation. (they do all of the york pa's harley plating) chuck. ________________________________ From: Kurt Appley To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 7:06:10 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Crome plating near Charlston SC Jim, I'm sure government over regulation is a concern for my plater's but I don't believe I've heard them complain. You don't want this stuff going down the storm sewers or wafting thru the air. Their head guy in the plating shop that has been there for most of 40 years and the guy I've always wanted to do my stuff has terminal cancer and won't be working much longer. I can't help but suspect what he's done most of his life. Kurt. _______________________________________________ From edwd at ti.com Mon Jun 27 05:48:58 2011 From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:48:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU stuck Message-ID: Try soaking the parts in Kroil, from Kano Labs and give it time to work. http://www.kanolabs.com/google/ The stuff is amazing. Ed Dallas From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Jun 27 09:00:19 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:00:19 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] DM2 distributors Message-ID: <20110627.090019.25036.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> So the MKII is up and running finally!!! On its maiden voyage (up the road and back) the dizzy popped out of the clamp- turns out the housing is broken and won't clamp properly- so I pulled out one of the spares- Weird, the drive dog is 180* out from the other two that I have, and my travel spare has a cap that is 90* out from the one on the MKII (the wires point toward the firewall when timed correctly, not upward). Does anyone have an idea why I have one that's 180* out? And what would the other cap have come from? they were all in Sprite Spares boxes acquired with the cars. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Mom Is 55, Looks 30... Her clever $5 wrinkle therapy angers Botox Doctors. Find Out How! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e089b4bd45b7c787fst01duc From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 09:16:16 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:16:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] DM2 distributors In-Reply-To: <20110627.090019.25036.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20110627.090019.25036.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: The drive dog can be removed and re-installed 180 out, right? From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jun 27 09:23:08 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:23:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] DM2 distributors In-Reply-To: <20110627.090019.25036.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20110627.090019.25036.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <201106270823266.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> The cap would be from a Triumph (can I say that here?) TR2,3,4 Jeff of Advanced Distributors has a steel sleeve he installs that repairs the soft potmetal in that clamping spot. And He'll be a the 50TH doing a tech session on Tuesday! The 50th in WW. Be there, be square, be round, but be there! (here) Peter C ==== At 10:00 AM 6/27/2011, Mark Haynes wrote: >So the MKII is up and running finally!!! On its maiden voyage (up the road and >back) the dizzy popped out of the clamp- turns out the housing is broken and >won't clamp properly- so I pulled out one of the spares- Weird, the drive dog >is 180* out from the other two that I have, and my travel spare has a cap that >is 90* out from the one on the MKII (the wires point toward the firewall when >timed correctly, not upward). >Does anyone have an idea why I have one that's 180* out? And what would the >other cap have come from? they were all in Sprite Spares boxes acquired with >the cars. > > >Mark Haynes >It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >HAN6L12977 >HAN5L8016 > >____________________________________________________________ >Mom Is 55, Looks 30... >Her clever $5 wrinkle therapy angers Botox Doctors. Find Out How! >http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e089b4bd45b7c787fst01duc >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3729 - Release Date: 06/27/11 From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Jun 27 09:36:39 2011 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:36:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] DM2 distributors Message-ID: <20110627.093639.25036.3@webmail07.dca.untd.com> I tried that, the hole is offset by just enough that it won't work-unless you're TIGHT, like I am- I had a shorter pin of the same diameter that I'm using at the moment-it engages one side of the drive dog and the whole of the shaft. Now I just need to free up the counterweights (no centrifugal advance) and it'll all be good. Peter- Thanks for letting me know about Jeff's fix, I'll bring the bad dizzy with. I was hoping that he'd be at the 50th. Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 HAN5L8016 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: derf To: Mark Haynes Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] DM2 distributors Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:16:16 -0500 The drive dog can be removed and re-installed 180 out, right? ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e08a3a37f7c944est01duc From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jun 27 10:24:43 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:24:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] DM2 distributors In-Reply-To: <20110627.093639.25036.3@webmail07.dca.untd.com> References: <20110627.093639.25036.3@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <201106270924322.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> When you take a dizzy apart, you should mark the relative position of the upper shaft to the lower shaft. Yours, apparently got spun around. I always mark the rotor notch and the offset so I get them right. In this case they can go together two ways, but only one is right ;-b Peter At 10:36 AM 6/27/2011, Mark Haynes wrote: >I tried that, the hole is offset by just enough that it won't work-unless >you're TIGHT, like I am- I had a shorter pin of the same diameter that I'm >using at the moment-it engages one side of the drive dog and the whole of the >shaft. Now I just need to free up the counterweights (no centrifugal advance) >and it'll all be good. >Peter- Thanks for letting me know about Jeff's fix, I'll bring the bad dizzy >with. I was hoping that he'd be at the 50th. > >Mark Haynes >It only goes one way-Pay it Forward >HAN6L12977 >HAN5L8016 > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: derf >To: Mark Haynes >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] DM2 distributors >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:16:16 -0500 > >The drive dog can be removed and re-installed 180 out, right? > > >____________________________________________________________ >57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! >Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! >http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e08a3a37f7c944est01duc >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3729 - Release Date: 06/27/11 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 13:17:11 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:17:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: For Sale MG Midget In-Reply-To: References: <59EF3AF1-31DA-4D3C-98D6-B2F921A8E78D@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: FYI, NFI.... For Sale: 1976 MG Midget, excellent condition, cherry red, 59,000 original miles, stored winters, located in Wisconsin, $5900, email for photos and details lsdevitt at wi.rr.com or call 414-870-3223. -- Jim Johnson Sprite - Midget Club USA 1001 First Ave Dodge City, KS 67801 SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jun 27 13:36:40 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:36:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: For Sale MG Midget In-Reply-To: References: <59EF3AF1-31DA-4D3C-98D6-B2F921A8E78D@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <201106271236241.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Jim, Did you ask him if he'd like to donate it to the raffle? Might get a few bids..... Just sayin' Peter C ==== At 02:17 PM 6/27/2011, Jim Johnson wrote: >FYI, NFI.... > >For Sale: >1976 MG Midget, excellent condition, cherry red, 59,000 original miles, >stored winters, located in Wisconsin, $5900, email for photos and details >lsdevitt at wi.rr.com or call 414-870-3223. > >-- >Jim Johnson >Sprite - Midget Club USA >1001 First Ave >Dodge City, KS 67801 >SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com > > > >-- >Cheers!! >Jim Johnson >Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! >Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 >Info & Registration here: >http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter at nosimport.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1513/3729 - Release Date: 06/27/11 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jun 27 14:40:13 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:40:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? Message-ID: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Where's the turn indicator flasher on a 1979 Midget? .bill in corvallis From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 14:53:26 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:53:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Message-ID: Behind the radio console? Or, is that just the hazard flasher back there? I can't remember. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:40 PM, wrote: > Where's the turn indicator flasher on a 1979 Midget? > > .bill in corvallis > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jun 27 15:12:09 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:12:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Message-ID: <08097503310744A7A95B8D4AF18A01D6@spider> There is one behind the radio console; I'm lucky the radio and console are out. I'm 'trouble shooting' bad electrical connectors. Thank you. ...bill in corvallis ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:53 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? Behind the radio console? Or, is that just the hazard flasher back there? I can't remember. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:40 PM, wrote: > Where's the turn indicator flasher on a 1979 Midget? > > .bill in corvallis > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247 at gmail.com From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 15:33:32 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help Message-ID: <2101070187.247669.1309210412895.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Last week went away on vacation.B took off negative wire to distributor like always.B well today in a rush I throw it back on and go for a drive.B wel it doesn't start.B 3 cranks and I give up and pop the hood.B Turns out genious boy wired (+) to distributor not negative.B so switch the wires and now she still won't start.B no blown fuses in the box but?B All the electrical works just won't turn over.B B What did I do and how can I fix it?B Or is she just mad that I left her alone for a week? Ryan From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Jun 27 15:50:07 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:50:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Message-ID: Bill, On my '79 the clicking noise appears to be right behind the right flasher indicator light. It's pouring rain in my driveway so I didn't spend a lot of time trying to crawl under the dash. :-) Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:40 PM, wrote: > Where's the turn indicator flasher on a 1979 Midget? > > .bill in corvallis From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jun 27 15:59:44 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:59:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Message-ID: <844E13A8C3B8433A9DAEED74414C4A16@spider> I'll check. The one behind the radio counsel appears to be the emergency flasher. Thanks. ...bill ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:50 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? Bill, On my '79 the clicking noise appears to be right behind the right flasher indicator light. It's pouring rain in my driveway so I didn't spend a lot of time trying to crawl under the dash. :-) Rick Sent from my iPad On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:40 PM, wrote: > Where's the turn indicator flasher on a 1979 Midget? > > .bill in corvallis Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 16:05:01 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:05:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Message-ID: Rick... If you can actually "crawl under the dash" on a Midget I've got some old baby clothes that might fit you.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Bill, > > On my '79 the clicking noise appears to be right behind the right flasher > indicator light. It's pouring rain in my driveway so I didn't spend a lot > of > time trying to crawl under the dash. :-) > > Rick > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:40 PM, wrote: > > > Where's the turn indicator flasher on a 1979 Midget? > > > > .bill in corvallis > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 16:23:05 2011 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:23:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help In-Reply-To: <2101070187.247669.1309210412895.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2101070187.247669.1309210412895.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5C54C06B-1AEE-4863-A923-257BE5BCE3F5@gmail.com> Ryan, If it has points, you probably fries the connector wire inside the dizzy that the negative wire connects to on the side of the dizzy. (That's where the spade connector for the (-) wire should go). It only takes a split second of (+) voltage to fry the wire inside the dizzy. Easy to replace..... Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:33 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Last week went away on vacation.B took off negative wire to > distributor like > always.B well today in a rush I throw it back on and go for a > drive.B wel it > doesn't start.B 3 cranks and I give up and pop the hood.B Turns > out genious > boy wired (+) to distributor not negative.B so switch the wires > and now she > still won't start.B no blown fuses in the box but?B All the > electrical works > just won't turn over.B B What did I do and how can I fix it?B Or > is she just > mad that I left her alone for a week? > > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ > kevinv1275 at gmail.com From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 17:58:21 2011 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help In-Reply-To: <5C54C06B-1AEE-4863-A923-257BE5BCE3F5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1310527841.253942.1309219101923.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thats what I was afraid of but that wasn't the problem. I pulled the dizzy to switch out the wire only to find it was in perfect condition.B the odd thing was that I apparently wore down my point so far that it no longer contacted the spindle and could not be tightened to make it.B Anybody ever see that? or did i cause it by shorting out the dizzy?B Either way i swapped in my spare dizzy and she fired right up.B Now I just have to hope my timing isn't to far out.B well I will go for a ride tomorrow and find out. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Valentine" To: "ryan kubanoff" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:23:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help Ryan, If it has points, you probably fries the connector wire inside the B dizzy that the negative wire connects to on the side of the dizzy. B (That's where the spade connector for the (-) wire should go). It only takes a split second of (+) voltage to fry the wire inside B the dizzy. Easy to replace..... Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:33 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Last week went away on vacation.B B took off negative wire to B > distributor like > always.B B well today in a rush I throw it back on and go for a B > drive.B B wel it > doesn't start.B B 3 cranks and I give up and pop the hood.B B Turns B > out genious > boy wired (+) to distributor not negative.B B so switch the wires B > and now she > still won't start.B B no blown fuses in the box but?B B All the B > electrical works > just won't turn over.B B B What did I do and how can I fix it?B B Or B > is she just > mad that I left her alone for a week? > > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ > kevinv1275 at gmail.com From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 20:05:45 2011 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:05:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:40 PM, wrote: Where's the turn indicator flasher on a 1979 Midget? _______________________________________________ On the passenger side up under the dash... Kinda hard to get to but can be done without yanking the parcel shelf. The one in the radio console is for the emergency flashers. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - Gone but not yet forgotten!!! From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jun 27 20:27:43 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:27:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help In-Reply-To: <1310527841.253942.1309219101923.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <5C54C06B-1AEE-4863-A923-257BE5BCE3F5@gmail.com>, <1310527841.253942.1309219101923.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: If you don't put a little bit of grease on the rubbing block it will wear the block down really fast! I use common wheel bearing grease or whatever is in the tube at the minute. BillM > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:58:21 +0000 > From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > To: kevinv1275 at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help > > Thats what I was afraid of but that wasn't the problem. > > > > I pulled the dizzy to switch out the wire only to find it was in perfect > condition.B the odd thing was that I apparently wore down my point so far > that it no longer contacted the spindle and could not be tightened to make > it.B Anybody ever see that? or did i cause it by shorting out the dizzy?B > Either way i swapped in my spare dizzy and she fired right up.B Now I just > have to hope my timing isn't to far out.B well I will go for a ride tomorrow > and find out. > > Thanks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Valentine" > To: "ryan kubanoff" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:23:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help > > Ryan, > > If it has points, you probably fries the connector wire inside the B > dizzy that the negative wire connects to on the side of the dizzy. B > (That's where the spade connector for the (-) wire should go). > > It only takes a split second of (+) voltage to fry the wire inside B > the dizzy. > > Easy to replace..... > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa > > > > On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:33 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > > > Last week went away on vacation.B B took off negative wire to B > > distributor like > > always.B B well today in a rush I throw it back on and go for a B > > drive.B B wel it > > doesn't start.B B 3 cranks and I give up and pop the hood.B B Turns B > > out genious > > boy wired (+) to distributor not negative.B B so switch the wires B > > and now she > > still won't start.B B no blown fuses in the box but?B B All the B > > electrical works > > just won't turn over.B B B What did I do and how can I fix it?B B Or B > > is she just > > mad that I left her alone for a week? > > > > Ryan > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ > > kevinv1275 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 20:51:31 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:51:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help In-Reply-To: References: <5C54C06B-1AEE-4863-A923-257BE5BCE3F5@gmail.com> <1310527841.253942.1309219101923.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: In the Olden Days they used to put a little plastic thing of "block grease" in the box with your new points. EPA musta got 'em. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Bill Masquelier wrote: > If you don't put a little bit of grease on the rubbing block it will wear > the > block down really fast! I use common wheel bearing grease or whatever is in > the tube at the minute. > BillM > > > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:58:21 +0000 > > From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > To: kevinv1275 at gmail.com > > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help > > > > Thats what I was afraid of but that wasn't the problem. > > > > > > > > I pulled the dizzy to switch out the wire only to find it was in perfect > > condition.B the odd thing was that I apparently wore down my point so > far > > that it no longer contacted the spindle and could not be tightened to > make > > it.B Anybody ever see that? or did i cause it by shorting out the > dizzy?B > > Either way i swapped in my spare dizzy and she fired right up.B Now I > just > > have to hope my timing isn't to far out.B well I will go for a ride > tomorrow > > and find out. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Kevin Valentine" > > To: "ryan kubanoff" > > Cc: "Spridgets" > > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:23:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Curent owner.....needs 74 midget help > > > > Ryan, > > > > If it has points, you probably fries the connector wire inside the B > > dizzy that the negative wire connects to on the side of the dizzy. B > > (That's where the spade connector for the (-) wire should go). > > > > It only takes a split second of (+) voltage to fry the wire inside B > > the dizzy. > > > > Easy to replace..... > > > > Kevin V. > > Tuscarora, Pa > > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:33 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > > > > > Last week went away on vacation.B B took off negative wire to B > > > distributor like > > > always.B B well today in a rush I throw it back on and go for a B > > > drive.B B wel it > > > doesn't start.B B 3 cranks and I give up and pop the hood.B B Turns B > > > out genious > > > boy wired (+) to distributor not negative.B B so switch the wires B > > > and now she > > > still won't start.B B no blown fuses in the box but?B B All the B > > > electrical works > > > just won't turn over.B B B What did I do and how can I fix it?B B Or B > > > is she just > > > mad that I left her alone for a week? > > > > > > Ryan > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation B $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ > > > kevinv1275 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From nases at verizon.net Tue Jun 28 12:44:26 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:44:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Mk 1 Sprite References: <10EE118DAB0F447FBF6C89445F0F93E9@garage1> Message-ID: Anyone using any of these or have any comments? A friend runs a restoration shop and this is what he can get. > Vredstein quadtrac 81.83 > Cooper Trendsetter 78.33 > Hancook 78 > Milstar 56 > Telstar 68 > Jetson innovation 74.18 > Bridgestone Insignia 65.45 > Sumitomo HTR200 are no longer made Phil Nase From heard at datatrontech.net Tue Jun 28 13:38:45 2011 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:38:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Mk 1 Sprite In-Reply-To: References: <10EE118DAB0F447FBF6C89445F0F93E9@garage1> Message-ID: <19b001cc35ca$fec26380$fc472a80$@net> Phil, I'm not sure I believe the HTR200s are not made any longer. Sumitomo still shows them on their web site. I think the guy I ordered from at Tire Rack was just too damn lazy to order them. I bought the TR4 models. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip Nase Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:44 PM To: Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Tires for Mk 1 Sprite Anyone using any of these or have any comments? A friend runs a restoration shop and this is what he can get. > Vredstein quadtrac 81.83 > Cooper Trendsetter 78.33 > Hancook 78 > Milstar 56 > Telstar 68 > Jetson innovation 74.18 > Bridgestone Insignia 65.45 > Sumitomo HTR200 are no longer made Phil Nase Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/heard at datatrontech.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jun 28 16:38:33 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:38:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> Message-ID: <19ABAA00562646DCB796124CACF93E00@spider> Here is a link to the picture of the Turn Flasher. Mine is glued to the firewall inside/behind the glovebox. The metal rectangle is the latch for the glove box. The blue thing in the background is a condenser to keep the click-click from being heard on the radio. . . .bill in corvallis 1979_Spridget_TurnFlasher_w600.jpg ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: CosmicMag1380 [mailto:cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:50 AM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? I forgot to add that it is waaay over by the inside of the A post and up in there. Feel around for it with your left hand while sitting outside the car on the passenger side unless you are a really small guy. It should be up there close to the inside bolt for the windshield. I'm pretty sure that the flasher just plugs into the socket on the loom and does not have a base. Kent From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jun 28 17:36:11 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:36:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? In-Reply-To: <19ABAA00562646DCB796124CACF93E00@spider> References: <6815C7708E6C43D2B3853741F03687EB@spider> <19ABAA00562646DCB796124CACF93E00@spider> Message-ID: I'm probably wrong. There is another unit in there that could be the flasher. Stay tuned. ...bill in corvallis ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:39 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? Here is a link to the picture of the Turn Flasher. Mine is glued to the firewall inside/behind the glove box. The metal rectangle is the latch for the glove box. The blue thing in the background is a condenser to keep the click-click from being heard on the radio. . . .bill in corvallis 1979_Spridget_TurnFlasher_w600.jpg ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: CosmicMag1380 [mailto:cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:50 AM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where the turn flasher? I forgot to add that it is waaay over by the inside of the A post and up in there. Feel around for it with your left hand while sitting outside the car on the passenger side unless you are a really small guy. It should be up there close to the inside bolt for the windshield. I'm pretty sure that the flasher just plugs into the socket on the loom and does not have a base. Kent Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 19:10:52 2011 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:10:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat covers Message-ID: Does anyone have some bugeye seats/covers, that are not good enough to use, but enough there for my upholstery guy to make a pattern from? I know I can buy some from VB or M@$$, but one of my student workers father does custom covers, and would like to tackle this project. Thanks in advance, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Jun 28 22:11:03 2011 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:11:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings Message-ID: <000c01cc3612$92bea2a0$b83be7e0$@net> What voltage readings should I see on my meter when going from the large spade lug on the generator to grnd? Thanks Leo From billmasq at hotmail.com Wed Jun 29 05:47:26 2011 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 04:47:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings In-Reply-To: <000c01cc3612$92bea2a0$b83be7e0$@net> References: <000c01cc3612$92bea2a0$b83be7e0$@net> Message-ID: Around 14 volts at HIGH idle or running speed- anything over 12 is ok at regular idle > From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:11:03 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings > > What voltage readings should I see on my meter when going from the large > spade lug on the generator to grnd? > > > > Thanks > > Leo > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jun 29 09:45:25 2011 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Headlights Message-ID: <1309362325.47571.YahooMailRC@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> For $225K, I would expect that this car is dead original. http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x230/ jay fishbein wallingford, ct From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 09:49:31 2011 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating Message-ID: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was watching My Classic Car this morning and they were touring Jay Leno's shop. Subject came to Chrome Plating and Jay was describing a new product, environmentally safe, that can be used to replate metal, plastic etc. He described it as a product, pour on the part to be plated, hardens instantly, looks to be shiny chrome and a one time cost of $5-10 dollars per product to be plated. Disposal of excess product just pour down the drain. No clue what this product is, sounded like snake oil, but if it as he says far better way to go than trying to replate my rusty BE Grille for $2-300+. Anyone know about this new miracle product or what the name is? From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Jun 29 10:48:27 2011 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:48:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> Looks pretty amazing. Found a link to a short video on Jay Leno's website........... http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/spray-on-chrome/1232328/ Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" To: "Spridgets Digest" Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating >I was watching My Classic Car this morning and they were touring Jay Leno's > shop. Subject came to Chrome Plating and Jay was describing a new product, > environmentally safe, that can be used to replate metal, plastic etc. He > described it as a product, pour on the part to be plated, hardens > instantly, > looks to be shiny chrome and a one time cost of $5-10 dollars per product > to be > plated. Disposal of excess product just pour down the drain. > > > No clue what this product is, sounded like snake oil, but if it as he says > far > better way to go than trying to replate my rusty BE Grille for $2-300+. > Anyone > know about this new miracle product or what the name is? > _______________________________________________ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jun 29 11:03:51 2011 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Headlights Message-ID: <17b71.6f7f13ca.3b3cb4f7@aol.com> Why would anyone want a big Healey that looks like a Humber Hawk? In a message dated 29/06/2011 17:05:28 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: For $225K, I would expect that this car is dead original. http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/28/abingdon-prototype-1960-austin-healey-x2 30/ jay fishbein wallingford, ct From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 29 11:27:28 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:27:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> Message-ID: <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Wow! At 11:48 AM 6/29/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: >Looks pretty amazing. Found a link to a short video on Jay Leno's >website........... > >http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/spray-on-chrome/1232328/ > >Rick From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 11:38:12 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:38:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Headlights In-Reply-To: <17b71.6f7f13ca.3b3cb4f7@aol.com> References: <17b71.6f7f13ca.3b3cb4f7@aol.com> Message-ID: > Why would anyone want a big Healey that looks like a Humber Hawk? They like Humber Hawks? More money than brains? David L From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 12:06:18 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:06:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Does it come in rattle cans? Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Wow! > > At 11:48 AM 6/29/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: > >> Looks pretty amazing. Found a link to a short video on Jay Leno's >> website........... >> >> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/**video/spray-on-chrome/1232328/ >> >> Rick >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/lbc77mg@**gmail.com From lists at dinospider.com Wed Jun 29 12:20:32 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:20:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> WOW is right and expensive to boot...the minimum equipment is $2,400. I don't know what the cost is from the guy in the Leno video, his website is a temp website with no real information but the U.S. based guys equipment starts at $2,400, a bit much for my garage. Although once you have it I bet you would be chroming everything. I was hoping to try it on a few parts, the quote on my 34 Singer's chrome was a bit over $5k but ouch and wow at the same time. mike On 06/29/2011 10:27 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Wow! > > At 11:48 AM 6/29/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: >> Looks pretty amazing. Found a link to a short video on Jay Leno's >> website........... >> >> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/spray-on-chrome/1232328/ >> >> Rick > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists at dinospider.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jun 29 12:53:42 2011 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:53:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <9c4a79$ckvhk0@email.mtu.edu> Just wait awhile. Peter will be all over this soon - then just send your parts to him! At 02:20 PM 6/29/2011, Mike Rambour wrote: > WOW is right and expensive to boot... See how enthusiastic he is about this? vvv >On 06/29/2011 10:27 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >>Wow! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From lbc77mg at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 13:16:28 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:16:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Is your classic Spridget shot? Message-ID: This web site helps you figure out if you should just take your Spridget to the crusher. *http://tinyurl.com/3l4gd44* I particularly liked the one about not being able to get the correct tools. "I can't find a proper wrench...throw the car away!" Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget From rdgard at cox.net Wed Jun 29 13:20:09 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:20:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My new F-1 Ferrari/Lexus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E2C02C1EC9846FB8D0FCEF9B1BBFC20@OfficePC> My son got me a gift for Fathers day, but he told me that it had not arrived yet. Of course I was curious because I can't even think of what would be a good gift for me, but that he finally found the perfect present for me was surprising. Well, he took me out for dinner last night and gave me the gift. I opened it up and it is a little device that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket and a number comes up on it. Then you start your car, tune your radio to that frequency and you hear a Ferrari F-1 V-12 idling. You blip the gas and the radio screams. I went crazy. I turned up the radio, and took off and it sounded like a race Ferrari and my little V-6 Lexus felt really fast as I manually shifted the auto tranny up and down through the twisty bits. WHAT A GIGGLE! Cheers, Bob in San Diego Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com **************************************** From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 29 13:25:52 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:25:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$ckvhk0@email.mtu.edu> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> <9c4a79$ckvhk0@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <20110629122533.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Mike, buy the system, do your Singer, and I'll send you some shox to plate. Actually, I googled chrome Singer and there's only sewing machine parts...... Peter == At 01:53 PM 6/29/2011, Tim Collins wrote: >Just wait awhile. Peter will be all over this soon - then just send >your parts to him! > > >At 02:20 PM 6/29/2011, Mike Rambour wrote: >> WOW is right and expensive to boot... > >See how enthusiastic he is about this? vvv > >>On 06/29/2011 10:27 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >>>Wow! > >Tim Collins >http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Jun 29 13:26:50 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:26:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <095C7847D6C54175B0A9E9513802D74F@CGI.COMMTECH> I have had a fair amount of chroming done over the last 10 years and 2,400 is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of commercial chroming on a restoration project. Maybe a good retirement job :) Who is the US company mentioned? Mark Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating > WOW is right and expensive to boot...the minimum equipment is $2,400. I > don't know what the cost is from the guy in the Leno video, his website is > a temp website with no real information but the U.S. based guys equipment > starts at $2,400, a bit much for my garage. Although once you have it I > bet you would be chroming everything. > > On 06/29/2011 10:27 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >> Wow! >> >> At 11:48 AM 6/29/2011, Rick Fisk wrote: >>> Looks pretty amazing. Found a link to a short video on Jay Leno's >>> website........... >>> >>> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/spray-on-chrome/1232328/ >>> >>> Rick From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 13:41:01 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Headlights In-Reply-To: <1309362325.47571.YahooMailRC@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1309362325.47571.YahooMailRC@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1309376461.28184.YahooMailRC@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The thought that immediately popped into my mind was "Checker Cab". Not exactly what you'd call a pretty face. Did they not draw it before making it out of metal? Were they drunk at the time (if they did indeed draw it out)? I don't see how anybody could get as far as to complete a prototype of something so hideous. Of course, I don't pretend to speak for everybody, nor do I profess to have excellent taste. There may well be folks out there who would love to have a long sleek convertible version of their Checker cab. ...And more power to them! - David Booker Long Island From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 29 13:41:42 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:41:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$ckvhk0@email.mtu.edu> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> <9c4a79$ckvhk0@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4B9F045F27804198AC115728B710101A@spider> Parts! What parts? ========================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:54 AM To: Mike Rambour; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating Just wait awhile. Peter will be all over this soon - then just send your parts to him! ======================================= At 02:20 PM 6/29/2011, Mike Rambour wrote: > WOW is right and expensive to boot... See how enthusiastic he is about this? vvv >On 06/29/2011 10:27 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >>Wow! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 29 14:02:07 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:02:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <20110629122533.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> <9c4a79$ckvhk0@email.mtu.edu> <20110629122533.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <41DE1DA2F2344C76AA218729BADC020D@spider> I've got one of the treadle Singer Sewing machines, with all of the accessories. We don't use it; waiting for the next energy shortage. ...bill in corvalis ================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:26 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating Mike, buy the system, do your Singer, and I'll send you some shox to plate. Actually, I googled chrome Singer and there's only sewing machine parts...... Peter ==================================================== At 01:53 PM 6/29/2011, Tim Collins wrote: >Just wait awhile. Peter will be all over this soon - then just send >your parts to him! > > >At 02:20 PM 6/29/2011, Mike Rambour wrote: >> WOW is right and expensive to boot... > >See how enthusiastic he is about this? vvv > >>On 06/29/2011 10:27 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >>>Wow! > >Tim Collins >http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 14:16:36 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:16:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> Message-ID: Is it just me, or does there seem to be a tremendous amount of waste during the application process?!? Would be nice if there was an error; $240 rather than $2,400...one can hope, right. Herb On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Rick Fisk wrote: > Looks pretty amazing. Found a link to a short video on Jay Leno's > website........... > > http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/**video/spray-on-chrome/1232328/ > > Rick From lists at dinospider.com Wed Jun 29 14:19:31 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:19:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <095C7847D6C54175B0A9E9513802D74F@CGI.COMMTECH> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> <095C7847D6C54175B0A9E9513802D74F@CGI.COMMTECH> Message-ID: <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> I found these 2 http://www.goldtouchinc.com/cosmichrome/systeminfo.html http://www.sprayonchrome.com/equipment.html $2,400 is the cheapest and over 12K is the most. I agree that $2,400 is CHEAP compared to chrome and I did briefly think, I could buy this, do the Singer and save $3k (most likely more) and then sell the equipment or make money on the side but I would have to SEE this stuff first, I believe its the best spray on chrome modern technology can be but I doubt its as good as real early 20th century chrome technology (don't know when chrome plating came out but its old and still works) mike On 06/29/2011 12:26 PM, Mark Endicott wrote: > Who is the US company mentioned? > > Mark From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 29 14:40:53 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:40:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com><095C7847D6C54175B0A9E9513802D74F@CGI.COMMTECH> <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <7533931FE40B4868BDA3F256FF8905D9@HomePC> Will it work on Taco Bell wrappers? LAD -----Original Message----- From: Mike Rambour Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:19 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating I found these 2 http://www.goldtouchinc.com/cosmichrome/systeminfo.html http://www.sprayonchrome.com/equipment.html $2,400 is the cheapest and over 12K is the most. I agree that $2,400 is CHEAP compared to chrome and I did briefly think, I could buy this, do the Singer and save $3k (most likely more) and then sell the equipment or make money on the side but I would have to SEE this stuff first, I believe its the best spray on chrome modern technology can be but I doubt its as good as real early 20th century chrome technology (don't know when chrome plating came out but its old and still works) mike On 06/29/2011 12:26 PM, Mark Endicott wrote: > Who is the US company mentioned? > > Mark Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jun 29 14:48:03 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:48:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <002f01cc369d$d7f67380$87e35a80$@net> My brother has a restoration business, and apparently "spray-on" chrome products have been around for a while with some favorable results (he has not used them, but plans to soon): http://www.sprayonchrome.com/ http://www.spraychrome.com/ http://chrome-nutz.com/ Or, just Google "spray on chrome". The one on "Jay Leno's Garage" can be found at: http://chromesolutions.de/ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 29 15:02:23 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:02:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com><095C7847D6C54175B0A9E9513802D74F@CGI.COMMTECH> <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <716C722BE0E7458CA2D3500D38B24F70@spider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_plating ========================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:20 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating I found these 2 http://www.goldtouchinc.com/cosmichrome/systeminfo.html http://www.sprayonchrome.com/equipment.html $2,400 is the cheapest and over 12K is the most. I agree that $2,400 is CHEAP compared to chrome and I did briefly think, I could buy this, do the Singer and save $3k (most likely more) and then sell the equipment or make money on the side but I would have to SEE this stuff first, I believe its the best spray on chrome modern technology can be but I doubt its as good as real early 20th century chrome technology (don't know when chrome plating came out but its old and still works) mike ===================================================== On 06/29/2011 12:26 PM, Mark Endicott wrote: > Who is the US company mentioned? > > Mark Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis at peoplepc.com From lists at dinospider.com Wed Jun 29 15:03:20 2011 From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:03:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <7533931FE40B4868BDA3F256FF8905D9@HomePC> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com><095C7847D6C54175B0A9E9513802D74F@CGI.COMMTECH> <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> <7533931FE40B4868BDA3F256FF8905D9@HomePC> Message-ID: <4E0B9318.2080500@dinospider.com> It will cost you $2,400 plus shipping to my house to find out if it will work on Taco Bell wrappers. Because its you, I will do you a favor and pay for the materials myself and not charge labor. mike On 06/29/2011 01:40 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Will it work on Taco Bell wrappers? > > > LAD > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Rambour > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:19 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating > > I found these 2 > > http://www.goldtouchinc.com/cosmichrome/systeminfo.html > > http://www.sprayonchrome.com/equipment.html > > $2,400 is the cheapest and over 12K is the most. I agree that $2,400 is > CHEAP compared to chrome and I did briefly think, I could buy this, do > the Singer and save $3k (most likely more) and then sell the equipment > or make money on the side but I would have to SEE this stuff first, I > believe its the best spray on chrome modern technology can be but I > doubt its as good as real early 20th century chrome technology (don't > know when chrome plating came out but its old and still works) > > mike > > On 06/29/2011 12:26 PM, Mark Endicott wrote: > >> Who is the US company mentioned? >> >> Mark >> > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jun 29 15:10:42 2011 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:10:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC><201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4E0B6CF0.8030801@dinospider.com> <095C7847D6C54175B0A9E9513802D74F@CGI.COMMTECH> <4E0B88D2.6070707@dinospider.com> Message-ID: <00ad01cc36a1$02875580$07960080$@com> Leno is very particular, and obviously can afford the best. If he's impressed, I'm impressed. The only drawback I see is not price, but the "hardness" of the process, as chrome is quite hard. It looks as if this is as hard as any 2 part paint. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:20 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating I found these 2 http://www.goldtouchinc.com/cosmichrome/systeminfo.html http://www.sprayonchrome.com/equipment.html $2,400 is the cheapest and over 12K is the most. I agree that $2,400 is CHEAP compared to chrome and I did briefly think, I could buy this, do the Singer and save $3k (most likely more) and then sell the equipment or make money on the side but I would have to SEE this stuff first, I believe its the best spray on chrome modern technology can be but I doubt its as good as real early 20th century chrome technology (don't know when chrome plating came out but its old and still works) mike On 06/29/2011 12:26 PM, Mark Endicott wrote: > Who is the US company mentioned? From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jun 29 15:19:56 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:19:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] If you don't have a car for the 50TH..... Message-ID: <201106291419136.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> This would do very nicely. Price reduced, apparently. Someplace in PA. Note the hubcaps! http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1752070 NFI, etc. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 29 15:52:12 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:52:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1979 Spridget instrument voltage stabilizer Message-ID: <4EAAEB2175BF4F1084C9C43950CA887E@spider> http://www.97330.com/1979_Spridget_InstrumentVoltageStabilizer_w600.jpg From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jun 29 16:13:05 2011 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:13:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Krylon=3A_Products=3A_Looking_Glass=AE?= =?iso-8859-1?q?-_Mirror_Like_Paint?= Message-ID: <0E8F417E60D94643BFFF403B950C8C41@Home> The spray chrome systems are expensive because of the machines they want you to buy. It is clear that we should be able to do this by adapting our spray equipment and finding the right chemicals (at least one site sells them). It might take pooling of spray guns or some such to make it work. Maybe we can figure out a way to fake it using Krylon mirror paint, buffing, and clear coating. I plan to try this just to see what happens. http://www.krylon.com/products/looking_glass_mirror_like_paint Michael Rowe '74 Bugeyed Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From nases at verizon.net Wed Jun 29 16:35:15 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:35:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] If you don't have a car for the 50TH..... In-Reply-To: <201106291419136.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201106291419136.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <8F5C1B5E-261E-47AA-98FF-43B1ECE939AF@verizon.net> They look very similar to the hubcaps on Frank's '67 Sprite. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 29, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > This would do very nicely. Price reduced, apparently. Someplace in PA. > > Note the hubcaps! > > http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1752070 > > > > NFI, etc. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jun 29 16:50:42 2011 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:50:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Didn't we have this same thread a few years ago when that Leno video first came out? It's plastic chrome. From rdgard at cox.net Wed Jun 29 16:57:18 2011 From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:57:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spray on Chrome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I saw this at SEMA last year. They had a Monster Truck that was lime green transparent with chrome under it and huge chrome fenders and parts etc. It was all chrome, some with the transparent tint. All done with the spray on stuff. It looked as good as metal, if not better. Looked deep and thick! Should last as long as paint, which is forever if cared for properly. They said it cost about $2500 to set up and to do a big car, like the monster truck, it cost about $1500 in materials. This thread is funny because I had the DVD kicking around on my desk since last year and finally just tossed it out last week saying I will never use this. But it is way cool and I am an up close eye witness! Cheers, bob Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com ************************************ From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Jun 29 17:10:57 2011 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:10:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] If you don't have a car . References: <201106291419136.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <253D86FF88C843F68A1805DFCB733376@dell1> I saw that car at The Original British Car show this month. Not to bad. The hubcaps are Midget Ace Mercury hubcaps that were a dealer optional equipment. There were two versions Sprite or Midget. The Midget version had the octogonal center and the Sprite just a concial center. I have a set of the Sprite hubs on my '62 MK-II. The hubs are ventilated and are side specific. The Midget at the show had them on backwards! I really like the ones Frank had. They were like supper sized trim rims and you used them with the standard hubcaps. Have no idea who made them. Frank never said and I didn't ask. Biff From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 29 17:12:20 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:12:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] running without the radio console Message-ID: <43F9B49B85704CC7AF508236F61B6C3F@spider> If you want to run a 1979 Spridget without the radio console in there, you will probably unplug the emergency flasher. You have to jump socket plugs 5 and 6 with a piece of copper wire to have the turn signals work . . .and have the ignition turned on :-( . . .bill in corvallis From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Wed Jun 29 17:13:28 2011 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:13:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Brake bleeding Part 2 Message-ID: <731bae22c47a251545c699084388141e.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Now what's next? After poor results bleeding the brakes I asked for help and did the following: Bought the "real" EZ Bleeder with proper fittings (and attached to source of air pressure) Bought and installed new master cylinder while waiting for ez bleed. Change a leaking brake line. NOW I'M READY TO GET THIS DONE! Result= Pressure seems to be going from source, to ez bleed container containing new fluid which is attached to master cylinder. Open right rear bleeder - no fluid comes out (it did come out with old master cylinder and I flushed it until clean fluid came through) Tried left rear cylinder - same result, no fluid comes out. I didn't try the front. The level in the master cylinder was still full. No leaks found anywhere. Seems like the master cylinder isn't pushing fluid. I disconnected the ez bleed system, replaced the master cylinder cap and tried to push fluid through by pumping the brake pedal. No pedal pressure and no fluid out the bleeder. I'm stumped. Any and all suggestions accepted.. Nice summer days and the Sprite sits in the garage. GRRRR. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jun 29 18:03:51 2011 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:03:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My new F-1 Ferrari/Lexus In-Reply-To: <8E2C02C1EC9846FB8D0FCEF9B1BBFC20@OfficePC> References: <8E2C02C1EC9846FB8D0FCEF9B1BBFC20@OfficePC> Message-ID: Zoom zoom http://tinyurl.com/3t7gm9b ======================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Gardner Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:20 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] My new F-1 Ferrari/Lexus My son got me a gift for Fathers day, but he told me that it had not arrived yet. Of course I was curious because I can't even think of what would be a good gift for me, but that he finally found the perfect present for me was surprising. Well, he took me out for dinner last night and gave me the gift. I opened it up and it is a little device that plugs into your cigarette lighter socket and a number comes up on it. Then you start your car, tune your radio to that frequency and you hear a Ferrari F-1 V-12 idling. You blip the gas and the radio screams. I went crazy. I turned up the radio, and took off and it sounded like a race Ferrari and my little V-6 Lexus felt really fast as I manually shifted the auto tranny up and down through the twisty bits. WHAT A GIGGLE! Cheers, Bob in San Diego Robert D. Gardner Gardner Productions LLC Film and Video Production since 1978 619-460-1000 www.gardnerproductions.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 18:21:31 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:21:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New product to replace Chrome Plating In-Reply-To: <002f01cc369d$d7f67380$87e35a80$@net> References: <1309362571.84721.YahooMailRC@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7AC60574134B4CBDAE3E7118D4BB59F0@RickPC> <201106291027920.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <002f01cc369d$d7f67380$87e35a80$@net> Message-ID: "Chrome-nutz" is in Frankie's neck of the woods: Chrome-Nutz - SDL Coating 1591 Rte 37W Toms River, NJ 07450 Phone: 732-473-0800 Fax: 732-473-0850 email: lou at sdlcoating.com On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Robert Evans wrote: > My brother has a restoration business, and apparently "spray-on" chrome > products have been around for a while with some favorable results (he has > not used them, but plans to soon): > > http://www.sprayonchrome.com/ > http://www.spraychrome.com/ > http://chrome-nutz.com/ > > Or, just Google "spray on chrome". > > The one on "Jay Leno's Garage" can be found at: > > http://chromesolutions.de/ > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/froggi60 at gmail.com > > -- Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email: If you forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which includes my email address! It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world! Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated! IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 18:24:28 2011 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:24:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Krylon: Products: Looking Glass(R)- Mirror Like Paint Message-ID: Be sure to let us know, Michael, how it works. Herb From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 19:39:43 2011 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:39:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? Message-ID: We will be driving from the west coast along I-90 to get out to the Midget 50th next month. Someone, I think from here, told me once about the drive in movie theater at Devils Tower that shows Close Encounters during the summer. If everything works out I'd like to go there and see it. Does anyone know about this? Oh yes, and if anyone else knows of other cool points of interest along that route please speak up! Rick (3rd kind?) Bastedo From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Jun 29 20:11:18 2011 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:11:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spray on Chrome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8160A15CEECE45B8AD2FBA886C2DB817@HERBYZ> Chrome in a can. http://alsacorp.com/products/killercans/kc/killerchrome.htm Herby 62 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy) 00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jun 29 20:18:41 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:18:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Company director crushed to death by 1950s Austin Healey Sprite he was repairing Message-ID: <004e01cc36cc$07ff1e50$17fd5af0$@net> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009460/Company-director-crushed-dea th-freak-accident-1950s-Austin-Healey-Sprite-repairing.html From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 21:12:49 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:12:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] running without the radio console In-Reply-To: <43F9B49B85704CC7AF508236F61B6C3F@spider> References: <43F9B49B85704CC7AF508236F61B6C3F@spider> Message-ID: Can't you just tuck that stuff under the dash? I ran without a radio console and kept the stuff and switch, just tucked it out of sight. You can put the radio in the glove compartment, too. From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com Wed Jun 29 21:35:39 2011 From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:35:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] =?iso-8859-1?q?Krylon=3A_Products=3A_Looking_Glass=AE?= =?iso-8859-1?q?-_Mirror_Like_Paint?= In-Reply-To: <0E8F417E60D94643BFFF403B950C8C41@Home> References: <0E8F417E60D94643BFFF403B950C8C41@Home> Message-ID: <4E0BEF0B.5000207@tx.rr.com> Is this different from the 2-component paint with silver nitrate in it that I mentioned recently? > The spray chrome systems are expensive because of the machines they want you to buy. It is clear that we should be able to do this by adapting our spray equipment and finding the right chemicals (at least one site sells them). It might take pooling of spray guns or some such to make it work. From rich_ball at mindspring.com Wed Jun 29 21:36:32 2011 From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:36:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30F181D632DB4FB09F64EF6377463CD5@RichandSusanPC> Hey Rick, I was the one that told you about that. Just outside the gates of Devils Tower National Monument is the Devils Tower KOA. Every night at dusk they show the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind on the back wall of the campground office. You just pull up your camp chair, crack open your favorite beverage and watch the movie in the shadow of the tower. It's kind of an eerie feeling to be watching the movie and to look over your right shoulder and see the tower looming up over you. While I recommend a stop there to anyone driving through Northeastern Wyoming it would add an extra hour of driving to you planned stop in Gillett for your second night out. Of course if you did that it would shorten you next day so you could add the driving loop through Badlands National Park. Talk about your photo op location. Badlands National park is another place I would recommend to anyone traveling through South Dakota on I-90. The turn off for the Park is at Wall SD so you might as well stop by Wall Drugs and be a tourist. You can't miss it; they have signs along I-90 for Hundreds of miles. http://www.devilstowerkoa.com/info.html http://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm http://www.walldrug.com/ Damn I wish we were still going! Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:40 PM To: SPRIDGETS Subject: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? We will be driving from the west coast along I-90 to get out to the Midget 50th next month. Someone, I think from here, told me once about the drive in movie theater at Devils Tower that shows Close Encounters during the summer. If everything works out I'd like to go there and see it. Does anyone know about this? Oh yes, and if anyone else knows of other cool points of interest along that route please speak up! Rick (3rd kind?) Bastedo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 22:00:02 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:00:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spray on Chrome In-Reply-To: <8160A15CEECE45B8AD2FBA886C2DB817@HERBYZ> References: <8160A15CEECE45B8AD2FBA886C2DB817@HERBYZ> Message-ID: But, do they have gold for those Healey emblems? From dwgwater at hotmail.com Wed Jun 29 22:09:48 2011 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings In-Reply-To: References: <000c01cc3612$92bea2a0$b83be7e0$@net>, Message-ID: Make sure all the contacts at the regulator are clean & shiny. Corrosion creates voltage drop Dave70 Midget > From: billmasq at hotmail.com > To: 60bugeye at cebridge.net; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 04:47:26 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings > > Around 14 volts at HIGH idle or running speed- > anything over 12 is ok at regular idle > > > From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:11:03 -0500 > > Subject: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings > > > > What voltage readings should I see on my meter when going from the large > > spade lug on the generator to grnd? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Leo > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwgwater at hotmail.com From aseippel at austin.rr.com Wed Jun 29 22:26:30 2011 From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:26:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Brake bleeding Part 2 In-Reply-To: <731bae22c47a251545c699084388141e.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <731bae22c47a251545c699084388141e.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <000b01cc36dd$e2b4bdf0$a81e39d0$@rr.com> Make sure you have free play between the push rod and the piston of the master cylinder. If there is no free play, the piston could be held slightly depressed. The seals on the piston will cover up the port to the reservoir. The result is the passage from the reservoir is closed so no fluid is getting into the brake system. It doesn't take much free play, but there has to be some. Second choice is the piston is not returning all of the way possibly because the cylinder was assembled dry. He results are the same. When you start bleeding the system, try bleeding from the port out of master cylinder by loosening the line. This will get fluid started through the master cylinder. Once you get fluid to bleed there, then tighten the line and bleed normally. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:13 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Brake bleeding Part 2 Now what's next? After poor results bleeding the brakes I asked for help and did the following: Bought the "real" EZ Bleeder with proper fittings (and attached to source of air pressure) Bought and installed new master cylinder while waiting for ez bleed. Change a leaking brake line. NOW I'M READY TO GET THIS DONE! Result= Pressure seems to be going from source, to ez bleed container containing new fluid which is attached to master cylinder. Open right rear bleeder - no fluid comes out (it did come out with old master cylinder and I flushed it until clean fluid came through) Tried left rear cylinder - same result, no fluid comes out. I didn't try the front. The level in the master cylinder was still full. No leaks found anywhere. Seems like the master cylinder isn't pushing fluid. I disconnected the ez bleed system, replaced the master cylinder cap and tried to push fluid through by pumping the brake pedal. No pedal pressure and no fluid out the bleeder. I'm stumped. Any and all suggestions accepted.. Nice summer days and the Sprite sits in the garage. GRRRR. Thanks. Dick Byrne in NH _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 23:15:27 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube Message-ID: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Blackhawk Farms Vintage Classic 2 weeks ago - WHite Trash took the chequered flag. The Porsche 914 behind me was a great guy named Gary Glosek who immediately came over and gave me the video. First lap after the start, I blew a shift, but you vcan see me getting ornery in his mirrors and I got him back in Turn 1 on 2nd lap. My lines sucked for that lap, then they are pretty textbook, which I was glad to see. There are 3 parts...It is pretty boring until we start picking through backmarkers from 15 minute or so til the end, with lots of traffic after the 20 minute point (sometime in 3rd vid). Enjoy...Part 1 is here, 2 and 3 shoudshow up in side bar: http://www.youtube.com/user/soavero#p/a/u/1/j7UkgAdlF9E Ron From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jun 29 23:16:58 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:16:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? In-Reply-To: <30F181D632DB4FB09F64EF6377463CD5@RichandSusanPC> References: <30F181D632DB4FB09F64EF6377463CD5@RichandSusanPC> Message-ID: <49765.184.237.90.136.1309411018.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Folks headed west returning from the 50th may run into some Sturgis traffic. Aug 8 to 14. You should be OK. Sturgis is a riot though. Dave W. > Hey Rick, > > I was the one that told you about that. Just outside the gates of Devils > Tower National Monument is the Devils Tower KOA. Every night at dusk they > show the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind on the back wall of the > campground office. You just pull up your camp chair, crack open your > favorite beverage and watch the movie in the shadow of the tower. It's > kind > of an eerie feeling to be watching the movie and to look over your right > shoulder and see the tower looming up over you. While I recommend a stop > there to anyone driving through Northeastern Wyoming it would add an extra > hour of driving to you planned stop in Gillett for your second night out. > > Of course if you did that it would shorten you next day so you could add > the > driving loop through Badlands National Park. Talk about your photo op > location. Badlands National park is another place I would recommend to > anyone traveling through South Dakota on I-90. The turn off for the Park > is > at Wall SD so you might as well stop by Wall Drugs and be a tourist. You > can't miss it; they have signs along I-90 for Hundreds of miles. > > http://www.devilstowerkoa.com/info.html > http://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm > http://www.walldrug.com/ > > Damn I wish we were still going! > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:40 PM > To: SPRIDGETS > Subject: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? > > We will be driving from the west coast along I-90 to get out to the Midget > 50th next month. > Someone, I think from here, told me once about the drive in movie theater > at > Devils Tower that shows Close Encounters during the summer. > If everything works out I'd like to go there and see it. > Does anyone know about this? > > Oh yes, and if anyone else knows of other cool points of interest along > that > route please speak up! > > Rick (3rd kind?) Bastedo > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel at wi.net From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 23:18:32 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1309411112.37400.YahooMailClassic@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Woops - better link here: http://youtu.be/j7UkgAdlF9E --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: White Trash on youtube To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 12:15 AM Blackhawk Farms Vintage Classic 2 weeks ago - WHite Trash took the chequered flag. The Porsche 914 behind me was a great guy named Gary Glosek who immediately came over and gave me the video. First lap after the start, I blew a shift, but you vcan see me getting ornery in his mirrors and I got him back in Turn 1 on 2nd lap. My lines sucked for that lap, then they are pretty textbook, which I was glad to see. There are 3 parts...It is pretty boring until we start picking through backmarkers from 15 minute or so til the end, with lots of traffic after the 20 minute point (sometime in 3rd vid). Enjoy...Part 1 is here, 2 and 3 shoudshow up in side bar: http://www.youtube.com/user/soavero#p/a/u/1/j7UkgAdlF9E Ron From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 04:04:58 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? In-Reply-To: <30F181D632DB4FB09F64EF6377463CD5@RichandSusanPC> References: <30F181D632DB4FB09F64EF6377463CD5@RichandSusanPC> Message-ID: <1309428298.42327.YahooMailRC@web112706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> wall drug is to s.d. is what south of the border is to a traveler going up or down the i-95 corridor in the east coast. a must stop and see and wonder ...who buys all this stuff? you forgot wall drug offers "free water"! LOL! reccomend the resturaunt catty corner across the street for a great breakfast. the badlands? sign me up for that again and again! it's a "must see" if you are anywhere near at all! been there and done that and...would go again if i was given the chance! chuck ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: rbastedo at gmail.com; SPRIDGETS Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 11:36:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? Hey Rick, I was the one that told you about that. Just outside the gates of Devils Tower National Monument is the Devils Tower KOA. Every night at dusk they show the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind on the back wall of the campground office. You just pull up your camp chair, crack open your favorite beverage and watch the movie in the shadow of the tower. It's kind of an eerie feeling to be watching the movie and to look over your right shoulder and see the tower looming up over you. While I recommend a stop there to anyone driving through Northeastern Wyoming it would add an extra hour of driving to you planned stop in Gillett for your second night out. Of course if you did that it would shorten you next day so you could add the driving loop through Badlands National Park. Talk about your photo op location. Badlands National park is another place I would recommend to anyone traveling through South Dakota on I-90. The turn off for the Park is at Wall SD so you might as well stop by Wall Drugs and be a tourist. You can't miss it; they have signs along I-90 for Hundreds of miles. http://www.devilstowerkoa.com/info.html http://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm http://www.walldrug.com/ Damn I wish we were still going! Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Bastedo Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:40 PM To: SPRIDGETS Subject: [Spridgets] Devils Tower - Close Encounters Drive In? We will be driving from the west coast along I-90 to get out to the Midget 50th next month. Someone, I think from here, told me once about the drive in movie theater at Devils Tower that shows Close Encounters during the summer. If everything works out I'd like to go there and see it. Does anyone know about this? Oh yes, and if anyone else knows of other cool points of interest along that route please speak up! Rick (3rd kind?) Bastedo Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball at mindspring.com _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/crusaderchuck at yahoo.com From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 04:10:39 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:10:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Close Encounters Drive In. Message-ID: Rick, I agree with Rich 100%. These are sights that should'nt slow you much. Also suggest stopping at Al's Oasis in Oacoma just before you come to the Missouri river for lunch and perhaps checking out the Corn Palace in Michell. Lots of other sights but not that won't slow you too much. (So Dak is my state!!) Kurt From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 04:22:16 2011 From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings In-Reply-To: References: <000c01cc3612$92bea2a0$b83be7e0$@net>, Message-ID: <1309429336.54520.YahooMailRC@web112703.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> yes! dirty contacts at all connections cause poor conductivity. that alone can give poor readings . chuck. ________________________________ From: David Groundwater To: billmasq at hotmail.com; 60bugeye at cebridge.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 12:09:48 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator voltage readings Make sure all the contacts at the regulator are clean & shiny. Corrosion creates voltage drop Dave70 Midget From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 05:51:33 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 06:51:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309411112.37400.YahooMailClassic@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1309411112.37400.YahooMailClassic@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great drive, Ron!! Congrats on the win!! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > Woops - better link here: > http://youtu.be/j7UkgAdlF9E > > --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Ron Soave wrote: > > From: Ron Soave > Subject: White Trash on youtube > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 12:15 AM > > Blackhawk Farms Vintage Classic 2 weeks ago - WHite Trash took the > chequered flag. The Porsche 914 behind me was a great guy named Gary Glosek > who immediately came over and gave me the video. First lap after the start, > I blew a shift, but you vcan see me getting ornery in his mirrors and I got > him back in Turn 1 on 2nd lap. My lines sucked for that lap, then they are > pretty textbook, which I was glad to see. There are 3 parts...It is pretty > boring until we start picking through backmarkers from 15 minute or so til > the end, with lots of traffic after the 20 minute point (sometime in 3rd > vid). Enjoy...Part 1 is here, 2 and 3 shoudshow up in side bar: > http://www.youtube.com/user/soavero#p/a/u/1/j7UkgAdlF9E > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 07:19:34 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:19:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels and tires???? Message-ID: Wondering if anyone has tried running Spitfire wheels on a square wheel arch spridget. I would think they would work but the wheel vendors say not. Exactly what is the problem, the guys I asked were only going by there recommendations from the manufacturer. [BTW I'm talking wire wheels] Also, if the Sumitomo HTR 200 summer performance tires are not available anymore any performance 13 inch tires out there. All this has come about in short order. Wire wheels hard to get and expensive if I want Dayton's and tire's for 13 have apparently disappeared. Economic mess! Kurt. From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 08:36:08 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:36:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Wheels and tires??? Message-ID: Thanks Alan but I'm talking the Rudge Whitworth knock off's. I know they also fitted bolt on's. Any one tried them on a square wheel arch spridget??? Kurt. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 08:51:27 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Company director crushed to death by 1950s Austin Healey Sprite he was repairing In-Reply-To: <004e01cc36cc$07ff1e50$17fd5af0$@net> Message-ID: <1309445487.45422.YahooMailClassic@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is the car at auction or what? --- On Wed, 6/29/11, Robert Evans wrote: From: Robert Evans Subject: [Spridgets] Company director crushed to death by 1950s Austin Healey Sprite he was repairing To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 9:18 PM http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009460/Company-director-crushed-dea th-freak-accident-1950s-Austin-Healey-Sprite-repairing.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From jmj3351 at comcast.net Thu Jun 30 08:57:54 2011 From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels and tires???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1508301765.65981.1309445874425.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have. Don't do it. The center hole is different with other tiny differences. You will lose a wheel if you don't check and tighten every trip. Don't do it. - I know midgets and I know Spitfires. Don't do it. John W/green Spitfidget and others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Appley" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:19:34 AM Subject: [Spridgets] B Wheels and tires???? Wondering if anyone has tried running Spitfire wheels on a square wheel arch spridget. I would think they would work but the wheel vendors say not. Exactly what is the problem, the guys I asked were only going by there recommendations from the manufacturer. [BTW I'm talking wire wheels] Also, if the Sumitomo HTR 200 summer performance tires are not available anymore any performance 13 inch tires out there. All this has come about in short order. Wire wheels hard to get and expensive if I want Dayton's and tire's for 13 have apparently disappeared. Economic mess! Kurt. Suggested annual donation B $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jmj3351 at comcast.net From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jun 30 09:18:10 2011 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:18:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Company director crushed to death by 1950s Austin Healey Sprite he was repairing In-Reply-To: <1309445487.45422.YahooMailClassic@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <004e01cc36cc$07ff1e50$17fd5af0$@net> <1309445487.45422.YahooMailClassic@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501cc3738$ec953740$c5bfa5c0$@net> Ron Soave wrote: "Is the car at auction or what?" I dunno, Ron, but it sounds as if he was race-prepping the car: "He had been doing some last-minute work on the car. before a race..They had co-owned the car and arranged to meet at the factory on the day Mr Bullas's body was found, so they could go to Loton Park, near Shrewsbury, for a race." In violating a basic safety rule (as we all have), it seems to be a case of familiarity breeding contempt. B From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:51 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Robert Evans Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Company director crushed to death by 1950s Austin Healey Sprite he was repairing Is the car at auction or what? --- On Wed, 6/29/11, Robert Evans wrote: From: Robert Evans Subject: [Spridgets] Company director crushed to death by 1950s Austin Healey Sprite he was repairing To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 9:18 PM http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009460/Company-director-crushed-dea th-freak-accident-1950s-Austin-Healey-Sprite-repairing.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero at yahoo.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jun 30 09:54:59 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:54:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I miss Frank....... Message-ID: <201106300854352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I get solicitations like the one below fairly frequently. When I was feeling feisty, I would forward them on to Frank, just to get his day started, like a good cup off coffee. Anyway, feeling sad, I thought I'd send this on....... Peter ----- From: osicarautoparts To: "parts" , "parts" Subject: Fw: the supplier of the distributor caps and rotors.power steering repair kits Dear Sir or Madam Nice day to you ! I am glad to receive your e-mail from MADE-IN-CHINA.COM.Long time no receive your answers .May i ask if you got my last e-mail? This is Daisy's e-mail from Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD which is speacialized in distributor caps , distributor rotors and power steering repair kits , Power steering Pump Repair Kits, Brake Caliper Repair Kits and Others. To be different and to be keep competition with other factorys , we emphasize more on quality.Also we can provide the good price for you .Up to now, There are many kinds distrbitor caps , distributor rotors and power steering repair kits for BENZ, BMW, VOLKSWAGE, FORD , OPEL, FIAT, TOYOTA, MAZDA, DAEWOOand so on . Also, I have attched new list of our products . please find the attachment and check ! Hope they meet your needs! Hope we will become good friends as well as good business partner! Awaiting for you soon reply ! Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD Evalin Add: No.12 Hantianxinjie North Rd.,Tangxia Town,Ruian,Wenzhou City,Zhejiang Province,China P.C:325204 Tel: 0086-577-65361221 Fax: 0086-577-65385639 MSN and E-mail: osicarautoparts at hotmail.com From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 10:20:21 2011 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:20:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I miss Frank....... In-Reply-To: <201106300854352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201106300854352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <1856202256633768584@unknownmsgid> Amen! OTOH, I might need a new distributor rotor for my 2002 Volkswage David L On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:09, Peter Caldwell wrote: > I get solicitations like the one below fairly frequently. > When I was feeling feisty, I would forward them on to Frank, just to get his day started, like a good cup off coffee. > > Anyway, feeling sad, I thought I'd send this on....... Peter > ----- > From: osicarautoparts > To: "parts" , > "parts" > Subject: Fw: the supplier of the distributor caps and rotors.power steering repair kits > > Dear Sir or Madam > Nice day to you ! > I am glad to receive your e-mail from MADE-IN-CHINA.COM.Long time no receive your answers .May i ask if you got my last e-mail? > This is Daisy's e-mail from Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD which is speacialized in distributor caps , distributor rotors and power steering repair kits , Power steering Pump Repair Kits, Brake Caliper Repair Kits and Others. To be different and to be keep competition with other factorys , we emphasize more on quality.Also we can provide the good price for you .Up to now, There are many kinds distrbitor caps , distributor rotors and power steering repair kits for BENZ, BMW, VOLKSWAGE, FORD , OPEL, FIAT, TOYOTA, MAZDA, DAEWOOand so on . > > Also, I have attched new list of our products . please find the attachment and check ! Hope they meet your needs! Hope we will become good friends as well as good business partner! > > Awaiting for you soon reply ! > Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD > Evalin > > Add: No.12 Hantianxinjie North Rd.,Tangxia Town,Ruian,Wenzhou City,Zhejiang Province,China > P.C:325204 > Tel: 0086-577-65361221 > Fax: 0086-577-65385639 > MSN and E-mail: osicarautoparts at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget at gmail.com From pvanwig at me.com Thu Jun 30 10:23:25 2011 From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:23:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looks like fun! Paul Van Wig pvanwig at mac dot com facebook.com/pvanwig "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."-John Wayne Remember! If you forward this, PLEASE REMOVE all email address history before you send it on, and use BCC when forwarding to several people at once. BE KIND TO YOUR EMAIL FRIENDS No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electrons were horribly inconvenienced. From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 10:24:29 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:24:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I miss Frank....... In-Reply-To: <201106300854352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <201106300854352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: A nice letter from Evalin. She must be Anglo. That is not a Chinese name. Allen Hefner Norristown, PA *Current:* 2006 Chebbie *Former:* 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS 1964 VW Type I 1967 VW Type II 1967 Rover 2000TC 1977 MG Midget On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > I get solicitations like the one below fairly frequently. > When I was feeling feisty, I would forward them on to Frank, just to get > his day started, like a good cup off coffee. > > Anyway, feeling sad, I thought I'd send this on....... Peter > ----- > From: osicarautoparts > To: "parts" , > "parts" > Subject: Fw: the supplier of the distributor caps and rotors.power steering > repair kits > > Dear Sir or Madam > Nice day to you ! > I am glad to receive your e-mail from MADE-IN-CHINA.COM.Long time no > receive your answers .May i ask if you got my last e-mail? > This is Daisy's e-mail from Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD which is > speacialized in distributor caps , distributor rotors and power steering > repair kits , Power steering Pump Repair Kits, Brake Caliper Repair Kits > and Others. To be different and to be keep competition with other factorys > , we emphasize more on quality.Also we can provide the good price for you > .Up to now, There are many kinds distrbitor caps , distributor rotors and > power steering repair kits for BENZ, BMW, VOLKSWAGE, FORD , OPEL, FIAT, > TOYOTA, MAZDA, DAEWOOand so on . > > Also, I have attched new list of our products . please find the attachment > and check ! Hope they meet your needs! Hope we will become good friends as > well as good business partner! > > Awaiting for you soon reply ! > Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD > Evalin > > Add: No.12 Hantianxinjie North Rd.,Tangxia Town,Ruian,Wenzhou City,Zhejiang > Province,China > P.C:325204 > Tel: 0086-577-65361221 > Fax: 0086-577-65385639 > MSN and E-mail: osicarautoparts at hotmail.com > ______________________________**_________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/lbc77mg@**gmail.com From lbc77mg at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 11:03:46 2011 From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:03:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Brake bleeding Part 2 In-Reply-To: <731bae22c47a251545c699084388141e.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <731bae22c47a251545c699084388141e.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: Sorry, but I have never had any luck with EZ Bleed. Why introduce another vairable into brake bleeding when all you need is a helper with one leg? People have been bleeding brake systems for years without EZ Bleeds or hose suckers . 1. Did you bench bleed the new master cylinder? It makes it easier to get the juice flowing. If you didn't, take off the brake line, fill the MC, pump, fill again, pump, until fluid comes out. This is less messy if the MC is on a bench (which is prolly why they call it bench bleeding). Watch the paint! 2. I also suspect that the brake proportioning valve is not centered, which could cause the problem with no fluid getting thru. That's its job. I have seen them completely jammed. They can be rebuilt if the o-rings are shot. 3. Is any fluid coming out of the MC? Take lines off and pump until you see a squirt. Keep us posted. Allen Hefner Norristown PA On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:13 PM, wrote: > Now what's next? > > After poor results bleeding the brakes I asked for help and did the > following: > Bought the "real" EZ Bleeder with proper fittings (and attached to source > of air pressure) > Bought and installed new master cylinder while waiting for ez bleed. > Change a leaking brake line. > > NOW I'M READY TO GET THIS DONE! > > Result= > Pressure seems to be going from source, to ez bleed container containing > new fluid which is attached to master cylinder. > > Open right rear bleeder - no fluid comes out (it did come out with old > master cylinder and I flushed it until clean fluid came through) > > Tried left rear cylinder - same result, no fluid comes out. > > I didn't try the front. > > The level in the master cylinder was still full. No leaks found anywhere. > > Seems like the master cylinder isn't pushing fluid. > > I disconnected the ez bleed system, replaced the master cylinder cap and > tried to push fluid through by pumping the brake pedal. No pedal pressure > and no fluid out the bleeder. > > I'm stumped. > Any and all suggestions accepted.. Nice summer days and the Sprite sits > in the garage. GRRRR. > Thanks. > Dick Byrne in NH > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 11:09:51 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1309453791.14885.YahooMailRC@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wouldn't call any of it boring Ron. Good race and congratulations. BTW - what happened to the two cars who started 1st & 2nd? Didn't see anybody in the weeds (did see some dust flying on that first lap, though) Makes me wonder if they didn't head into the pits at some point. Will have to go back through and watch the whole thing again only in correct order this time and look for them. Looks like the 914 was pretty evenly matched to White Trash for the length of the race. Guess you got him so succintly by late braking and holding that turn better? You got pretty crossed up in one of the very early turns soon after passing him. Thanks for posting it. - David Booker http://www.youtube.com/user/soavero#p/a/u/1/j7UkgAdlF9E From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 11:24:10 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:24:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ReRe Wheels and Tires??? Message-ID: Thanks John, but I thought all Rudge Whitworth centers were the same. Standardised? I thought there were only 2 sizes as well. Guess not. Well I may be stuck with 4 inch rims from Dunlop or change to disc wheels. Kurt. From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jun 30 11:38:03 2011 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:38:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] running without the radio console In-Reply-To: <43F9B49B85704CC7AF508236F61B6C3F@spider> References: <43F9B49B85704CC7AF508236F61B6C3F@spider> Message-ID: <004c01cc374c$76eda630$64c8f290$@hky.com> I'm working on a shortened version of the center console, for the '73 I'm restoring. It involves some cutting and welding and the elimination of the radio speaker & radio, but will retain the four-way flasher switch, cig lighter (for powering GPS or cell phone charger) and maybe a fog light switch. I hate that stupid console, in the Midget, because it's always in the way of my knee. I can live with it, but my 6'2" son finds it makes the car impossible for him to drive any distance in. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:12 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] running without the radio console If you want to run a 1979 Spridget without the radio console in there, you will probably unplug the emergency flasher. You have to jump socket plugs 5 and 6 with a piece of copper wire to have the turn signals work . . .and have the ignition turned on :-( . . .bill in corvallis _______________________________________________ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 12:05:16 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels and tires???? In-Reply-To: <1508301765.65981.1309445874425.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1508301765.65981.1309445874425.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1309457116.65968.YahooMailRC@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> here? Should he or should he not use Spitfire wheels? :-) David BookerI have. Don't do it. The center hole is different with other tiny differences. You will lose a wheel if you don't check and tighten every trip. Don't do it. - I know midgets and I know Spitfires. Don't do it. John W/green Spitfidget and others. ...So John, what exactly are you trying to say From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jun 30 12:09:57 2011 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:09:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ReRe Wheels and Tires??? References: Message-ID: <398B6C3A64474EF79EE730BC42952DF7@CGI.COMMTECH> Kurt, Superlite makes a Minilite replica with a splined hub, I have seen a few cars with them and they look great. Pack Racing used to sell them but my link didn't work so maybe they are gone. Also, Vicky Brit has a bolt on hub, like Triumph uses, for Spridgets. Mark Nashville To: Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] ReRe Wheels and Tires??? > Thanks John, but I thought all Rudge Whitworth centers were the same. > Standardised? I thought there were only 2 sizes as well. Guess not. > Well I may be stuck with 4 inch rims from Dunlop or change to disc wheels. > > Kurt. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 12:13:26 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:13:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] running without the radio console In-Reply-To: <004c01cc374c$76eda630$64c8f290$@hky.com> References: <43F9B49B85704CC7AF508236F61B6C3F@spider> <004c01cc374c$76eda630$64c8f290$@hky.com> Message-ID: 6' 4" and I have driven with the radio console in place but it is much better without. From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 12:30:37 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:30:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Re Wheels and tires. Message-ID: Thanks much for the inputs. Moss says the knockoff mags only work on round wheel arch cars, unfortunately. I decided to educate myself a bit and remembered that Google is your friend. Apparently there were many Rudge Whitworth wheels, however only a few are common. Unfortunately, the spitfire uses a short hub wheel. Getting it to tighten and stay tight, as john mentioned, looks like a problem. Kurt. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 13:16:30 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:16:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Re Wheels and tires. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've wondered about finding some shot wires with good centers and turning down the centers and making adapters to 4X100. Then, some of those Miata forged BBS 14X6 which weigh ~10lbs each would be nice. There's a guy selling a set of those wheels in a nearby town for $200. I need to make up an excuse to go buy them. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 13:54:07 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309453791.14885.YahooMailRC@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1309453791.14885.YahooMailRC@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1309463647.73601.YahooMailNeo@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Both the other 2 got black flagged! Both great drivers, but I had qualified 2nd, behind the ex-Tom Colby Bugeye by 1/10th of a second and 2 seconds ahead of the gray squarebody. They are both much higher horsepower fa$$ter cars but I do better in traffic, and qualifying was a log jam (I give away 25 HP to the square body and more the silver Bugeye). The 914 coasted a bit during 2 critical turns, onto and leaving the main straight, and he apexes a bit early (he DOES have mid engine, though). On the back side of the track White Trash is faster than most anything, and I always got enough distance through there. I also used the white Midget to set a pick towards the end. I don't like open track - very little fun in that :) RS "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog ________________________________ From: David Booker To: Ron Soave ; Spridgets Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube Wouldn't call any of it boring Ron. Good race and congratulations. BTW - what happened to the two cars who started 1st & 2nd? Didn't see anybody in the weeds (did see some dust flying on that first lap, though) Makes me wonder if they didn't head into the pits at some point. Will have to go back through and watch the whole thing again only in correct order this time and look for them. Looks like the 914 was pretty evenly matched to White Trash for the length of the race. Guess you got him so succintly by late braking and holding that turn better? You got pretty crossed up in one of the very early turns soon after passing him. Thanks for posting it. - David Booker http://www.youtube.com/user/soavero#p/a/u/1/j7UkgAdlF9E From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 13:57:27 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:57:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Re Wheels and tires. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good luck with that, Derf... In my experience the splines are the first things to go.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:16 PM, derf wrote: > I've wondered about finding some shot wires with good centers and > turning down the centers and making adapters to 4X100. > Then, some of those Miata forged BBS 14X6 which weigh ~10lbs each would be > nice. > There's a guy selling a set of those wheels in a nearby town for $200. > I need to make up an excuse to go buy them. > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 14:55:55 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re ect. Wheels and tires??? Message-ID: Derf: Ditto as to Jim--I have a pile of wheels with bad centers. I wonder if Dayton would treat you right on new centers for that project. They can't seem to get wheels made but should have the centers ready to go. Kurt. From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 15:17:43 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:17:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Devils Tower-Close Encounters Drive In? Message-ID: Rick, If your brave and your car is up to snuff one of the best drives in the country is on your way. Exit the I state at Columbus or Laurel Montana and take the Bear Tooth highway to Wyoming 296 then to Cody. Check out Cody if you have time then procede on alternate 14 over the Big Horns. Near the top for one of the best drives in the country. Best done in that direction since you will be climbing the steapest grades rather than relying on brakes to hold you. I've done it several times in a MGB and Miata but, as said, your car needs to be up to it. Kurt. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 15:25:44 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:25:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Last minute reminder - Midget 50th!! Message-ID: A last minute reminder... As of midnight tonight (June 30th) the registration fee for the Big Party (Midget 50th) at Elkhart Lake and Road America goes up by $15. Time get get those last minute registrations in! The registration form can be printed from: CLICK HERE!! and you can pay via PayPal to our email at SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com.... To get the lower rate mailings MUST BE POST MARKED TODAY!! See you there!!! -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 15:27:37 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:27:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re ect. Wheels and tires??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm surprised at that, Kurt! I would have thought Dayton would have plenty of people who could lace and true a wheel. As I discovered years ago however, it ain't easy to get it right!! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Kurt Appley wrote: > Derf: Ditto as to Jim--I have a pile of wheels with bad centers. I wonder > if > Dayton would treat you right on new centers for that project. They can't > seem to get wheels made but should have the centers ready to go. > > Kurt. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 15:36:30 2011 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:36:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re ect. Wheels and tires??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It would probably be much easier and lighter to just modify disc wheel fronts and rears for 4X100. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 30 15:58:51 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:58:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309463647.73601.YahooMailNeo@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1309453791.14885.YahooMailRC@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1309463647.73601.YahooMailNeo@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39E6E90F05444E7C841B66EA182D6A35@HomePC> -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog ________________________________ "The Art of Racing in the Rain" Ron, did you read the book? It was recently recommended to me, but I haven't picked it up yet. Good? LAD From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 16:07:12 2011 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <39E6E90F05444E7C841B66EA182D6A35@HomePC> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1309453791.14885.YahooMailRC@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1309463647.73601.YahooMailNeo@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <39E6E90F05444E7C841B66EA182D6A35@HomePC> Message-ID: <1309471632.80012.YahooMailRC@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Larry, Just go buy it. I'd suggest you to go to the library and check it out, but this one is a keeper. If you are anything like me (you're on this list, so there must be SOME shared characteristics) you will want your own copy on the shelf so you can re-read it every once in a while. Cars, racing, and dogs - what more could you ask? Excellent book. David Booker ________________________________ From: Larry Daniels To: Ron Soave ; David Booker ; Spridgets Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 5:58:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog ________________________________ "The Art of Racing in the Rain" Ron, did you read the book? It was recently recommended to me, but I haven't picked it up yet. Good? LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 30 16:22:35 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:22:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309471632.80012.YahooMailRC@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1309453791.14885.YahooMailRC@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1309463647.73601.YahooMailNeo@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <39E6E90F05444E7C841B66EA182D6A35@HomePC> <1309471632.80012.YahooMailRC@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <92A3445D39D94C0AAFB138A4CC20CE29@HomePC> Three of my favorite things. That pretty much seals it. Thanks, David. LAD From: David Booker Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:07 PM To: Larry Daniels ; Ron Soave ; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube Larry, Just go buy it. I'd suggest you to go to the library and check it out, but this one is a keeper. If you are anything like me (you're on this list, so there must be SOME shared characteristics) you will want your own copy on the shelf so you can re-read it every once in a while. Cars, racing, and dogs - what more could you ask? Excellent book. David Booker ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Larry Daniels To: Ron Soave ; David Booker ; Spridgets Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 5:58:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog ________________________________ "The Art of Racing in the Rain" Ron, did you read the book? It was recently recommended to me, but I haven't picked it up yet. Good? LAD From hardy.john at cox.net Thu Jun 30 17:16:55 2011 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:16:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I miss Frank....... In-Reply-To: <201106300854352.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <20110630191655.G0NHQ.25350.imail@fed1rmwml40> Moss supplier, right? ---- Peter Caldwell wrote: > I get solicitations like the one below fairly frequently. > When I was feeling feisty, I would forward them on to Frank, just > to get his day started, like a good cup off coffee. > > Anyway, feeling sad, I thought I'd send this on....... Peter > ----- > From: osicarautoparts > To: "parts" , > "parts" > Subject: Fw: the supplier of the distributor caps and rotors.power > steering repair kits > > Dear Sir or Madam > Nice day to you ! > I am glad to receive your e-mail from MADE-IN-CHINA.COM.Long > time no receive your answers .May i ask if you got my last e-mail? > This is Daisy's e-mail from Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD > which is speacialized in distributor caps , distributor rotors and > power steering repair kits , Power steering Pump Repair Kits, Brake > Caliper Repair Kits and Others. To be different and to be keep > competition with other factorys , we emphasize more on quality.Also > we can provide the good price for you .Up to now, There are many > kinds distrbitor caps , distributor rotors and power steering repair > kits for BENZ, BMW, VOLKSWAGE, FORD , OPEL, FIAT, TOYOTA, MAZDA, > DAEWOOand so on . > > Also, I have attched new list of our products . please find the > attachment and check ! Hope they meet your needs! Hope we will > become good friends as well as good business partner! > > Awaiting for you soon reply ! > Ruian Osicar Auto Parts CO,LTD > Evalin > > Add: No.12 Hantianxinjie North Rd.,Tangxia Town,Ruian,Wenzhou > City,Zhejiang Province,China > P.C:325204 > Tel: 0086-577-65361221 > Fax: 0086-577-65385639 > MSN and E-mail: osicarautoparts at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/hardy.john at cox.net From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 17:41:08 2011 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <92A3445D39D94C0AAFB138A4CC20CE29@HomePC> Message-ID: <1309477268.11988.YahooMailClassic@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There's a little bit of sex in it, too. RS "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Larry Daniels wrote: From: Larry Daniels Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube To: "David Booker" , "Ron Soave" , "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 5:22 PM Three of my favorite things. That pretty much seals it. Thanks, David. LAD From: David Booker Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:07 PM To: Larry Daniels ; Ron Soave ; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube Larry, Just go buy it. I'd suggest you to go to the library and check it out, but this one is a keeper. If you are anything like me (you're on this list, so there must be SOME shared characteristics) you will want your own copy on the shelf so you can re-read it every once in a while. Cars, racing, and dogs - what more could you ask? Excellent book. David Booker From: Larry Daniels To: Ron Soave ; David Booker ; Spridgets Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 5:58:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog ________________________________ "The Art of Racing in the Rain" Ron, did you read the book? It was recently recommended to me, but I haven't picked it up yet. Good? LAD From kk7ss at frontier.com Thu Jun 30 17:53:06 2011 From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] I miss Frank....... In-Reply-To: <20110630191655.G0NHQ.25350.imail@fed1rmwml40> Message-ID: <1638388744.343545.1309477986240.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> A rolling Moss gathers no Stones ! -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- "hardy john" wrote: > Moss supplier, right? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 30 18:00:53 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:00:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309477268.11988.YahooMailClassic@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309477268.11988.YahooMailClassic@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <83FDF2493D9B48E5913D214A6CD9110C@HomePC> OK, four of my favorite things.... From: Ron Soave Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:41 PM To: David Booker ; Spridgets ; Larry Daniels Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube There's a little bit of sex in it, too. RS "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Larry Daniels wrote: From: Larry Daniels Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube To: "David Booker" , "Ron Soave" , "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 5:22 PM Three of my favorite things. That pretty much seals it. Thanks, David. LAD From: David Booker Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:07 PM To: Larry Daniels ; Ron Soave ; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube Larry, Just go buy it. I'd suggest you to go to the library and check it out, but this one is a keeper. If you are anything like me (you're on this list, so there must be SOME shared characteristics) you will want your own copy on the shelf so you can re-read it every once in a while. Cars, racing, and dogs - what more could you ask? Excellent book. David Booker ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Larry Daniels To: Ron Soave ; David Booker ; Spridgets Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 5:58:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog ________________________________ "The Art of Racing in the Rain" Ron, did you read the book? It was recently recommended to me, but I haven't picked it up yet. Good? LAD From kmappley at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 18:09:13 2011 From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:09:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re ect. Wheels and tires?? Message-ID: According to Hendrix wheel they have wheels back ordered from Dayton since Feb. The price is way up and things don't work like they used too. Hope they can continue to compete with workers that will work for a small bowl fo rice! Kurt. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 18:25:38 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:25:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I miss Frank....... In-Reply-To: <1638388744.343545.1309477986240.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> References: <20110630191655.G0NHQ.25350.imail@fed1rmwml40> <1638388744.343545.1309477986240.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: There are Chinks in their armour....... Jim On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote: > A rolling Moss gathers no Stones ! > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. > '65 Sprite - in process :( > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid > > ----- "hardy john" wrote: > > > Moss supplier, right? > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 18:27:07 2011 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:27:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <83FDF2493D9B48E5913D214A6CD9110C@HomePC> References: <1309477268.11988.YahooMailClassic@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <83FDF2493D9B48E5913D214A6CD9110C@HomePC> Message-ID: No cats???!!! No Zappa???!! No guns???!! PPP On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > OK, four of my favorite things.... > > > > > From: Ron Soave > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:41 PM > To: David Booker ; Spridgets ; Larry Daniels > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube > > There's a little bit of sex in it, too. > > RS > "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog > > --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > From: Larry Daniels > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube > To: "David Booker" , "Ron Soave" > , "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 5:22 PM > > > Three of my favorite things. That pretty much seals it. > > Thanks, David. > > > LAD > > > From: David Booker > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:07 PM > To: Larry Daniels ; Ron Soave ; Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube > > Larry, Just go buy it. I'd suggest you to go to the library and > check > it out, but this one is a keeper. If you are anything like me (you're on > this > list, so there must be SOME shared characteristics) you will want your own > copy on the shelf so you can re-read it every once in a while. Cars, > racing, > and dogs - what more could you ask? Excellent book. > > David Booker > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Larry Daniels > To: Ron Soave ; David Booker < > tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>; > Spridgets > Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 5:58:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Soave > > "That which you manifest is before > you" - Enzo the dog > > > ________________________________ > > "The Art of Racing in the Rain" > > Ron, did you read the book? It was recently recommended to me, but > I > haven't picked it up yet. Good? > > > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Don't miss the BIG PARTY!! Midget 50th Anniversary! Elkhart Lake, WI July 18-22, 2011 Info & Registration here: http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org From rrengineer.mike at att.net Thu Jun 30 18:38:27 2011 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Mike MacLean) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:38:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: HOW TO RUIN A WEEKEND CAR SHOW... References: <89ED120629164EF8B69872D596B58C2F@pc048c39140db0> Message-ID: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Leonard S. Flores Jr" > Date: June 30, 2011 16:18:24 PDT > To: "Anthony Martinez Jr." > Cc: "Mike Flores" , "Jeannie McMaster" , "Shawn Storm" , "Stacy Gillespie" , "rudy borrego" , "Mike Maclean" , "Bill Garcia" , "Pat Apodaca" , "Oscar Ayala" , "Greg Perron" , "Norbert" , "justin" , "Matt Ford" , "Mark Flores" , "Marco Quezada" , "Rob" , "Jim Speer" , "joe garcia" , "Juan Melendez" , "Harry French" , "TED GOMEZ" , "Gregg Grose" , "Jim Springer" , "Fred Chavez" , "Eric Flores" , "Laura Tusa" , "Dan Flores" , "Dennis Marquez" , "Chuck Ciorlieri" , "Chris Flores" , "Cheri Dee Flores" , "ROSEMARY FLORES" , "Carl Prochilo" , "Greg Lewis" , "Napolean Roper" , "Angel Figueroa" , "Amy Garcia" > Subject: Fw: HOW TO RUIN A WEEKEND CAR SHOW... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: fourdzrtrats at aol.com > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 1:31 PM > Subject: Fwd: HOW TO RUIN A WEEKEND CAR SHOW... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Young > Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:53 pm > Subject: HOW TO RUIN A WEEKEND CAR SHOW... > > > > Ah, that illustrious first parking spot. > Certainly worth arriving early for. > > > > > > I'll just park my classic '40 Ford in the second stall... > > ... and the late arrivals can line up on - BANG!!!! > > > (the late arrival) > > > > > > > > > > Ahhhhhhhhhhh, WHERE'S my gun!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What on God's green earth could have caused this...? > > > > > (HINT #1 & HINT #2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, wasn't that Pontiac in the FIRST parking space?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (What on God's green earth could have caused this Hint #3) > > > Unbelievable the driver lived > through the entire ordeal! From nases at verizon.net Thu Jun 30 18:55:03 2011 From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:55:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <25695EA5-81A7-42C6-A9F7-930E33A1DA93@verizon.net> Good stuff Ron, the vids are anything but boring. What speeds are you averaging around that course? It looks very fast. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 30, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > Blackhawk Farms Vintage Classic 2 weeks ago - WHite Trash took the chequered flag. The Porsche 914 behind me was a great guy named Gary Glosek who immediately came over and gave me the video. First lap after the start, I blew a shift, but you vcan see me getting ornery in his mirrors and I got him back in Turn 1 on 2nd lap. My lines sucked for that lap, then they are pretty textbook, which I was glad to see. There are 3 parts...It is pretty boring until we start picking through backmarkers from 15 minute or so til the end, with lots of traffic after the 20 minute point (sometime in 3rd vid). Enjoy...Part 1 is here, 2 and 3 shoudshow up in side bar: > http://www.youtube.com/user/soavero#p/a/u/1/j7UkgAdlF9E > Ron > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases at verizon.net From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jun 30 19:29:37 2011 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:29:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube In-Reply-To: <25695EA5-81A7-42C6-A9F7-930E33A1DA93@verizon.net> References: <1309410927.85048.YahooMailClassic@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <25695EA5-81A7-42C6-A9F7-930E33A1DA93@verizon.net> Message-ID: <00e201cc378e$58e8fe90$0abafbb0$@com> Blackhawk is the best Sprite track in the country. Unlike some tracks that favor serious horsepower cars (any track that Alan Wilson designs sucks donkey d*ck) with their sweeping turns, Blackhawk has numerous opportunities to late (hard) brake followed by enough other twisties to get ahead on the backside and stay ahead despite the long front straight. It is also known as a track that's the hardest on brakes. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip Nase Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 7:55 PM To: Ron Soave Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube Good stuff Ron, the vids are anything but boring. What speeds are you averaging around that course? It looks very fast. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jun 30, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > Blackhawk Farms Vintage Classic 2 weeks ago - WHite Trash took the chequered flag. The Porsche 914 behind me was a great guy named Gary Glosek who immediately came over and gave me the video. First lap after the start, I blew a shift, but you vcan see me getting ornery in his mirrors and I got him back in Turn 1 on 2nd lap. My lines sucked for that lap, then they are pretty textbook, which I was glad to see. There are 3 parts...It is pretty boring until we start picking through backmarkers from 15 minute or so til the end, with lots of traffic after the 20 minute point (sometime in 3rd vid). Enjoy...Part 1 is here, 2 and 3 shoudshow up in side bar: > http://www.youtube.com/user/soavero#p/a/u/1/j7UkgAdlF9E > Ron > _______________________________________________