From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Fri Jul  1 06:22:43 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 05:22:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW TO RUIN A WEEKEND CAR SHOW...
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Sorry for the first time I tried to send this from my iPhone.
Mike




>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>Ah, that illustrious first parking  spot.
>>Certainly worth arriving
early  for. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>I'll just park my classic '40 Ford in  the
second stall...
>>>... and the late arrivals  can line up on - BANG!!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>(the late  arrival)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Ahhhhhhhhhhh, WHERE'S my  gun!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>What on God's green earth could have  caused
this...?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>(HINT #1 & HINT  #2)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Hey, wasn't
that Pontiac in the  FIRST parking space??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>(What on God's green earth could
have caused this Hint  #3)
>>> 
>>>Unbelievable the driver  lived
>>>through
the entire ordeal!   

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 06:23:39 2011
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 05:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spray on Chrome
In-Reply-To: <8160A15CEECE45B8AD2FBA886C2DB817@HERBYZ>
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	<B05346234BC643A3A9FCF76168A63E7A@OfficePC>
	<8160A15CEECE45B8AD2FBA886C2DB817@HERBYZ>
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Has anyone tried this yet?

 
Edward Perez
Summerville, SC
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/


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Sent:
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spray on Chrome
Chrome in a can.

http://alsacorp.com/products/killercans/kc/killerchrome.htm
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62 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy)
00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy)
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Fri Jul  1 06:54:35 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 05:54:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] How to Ruin...
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O.K., I effed up.  To see the pics on this email I posted to Ed's joke list. 
If you are NOT on Ed's joke list, let me know and I will forward it to you
directly.
MIke

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  1 07:24:53 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 08:24:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hooning at Road America
Message-ID: <1BFB753C56C94AA09890304E61432B37@HomePC>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLIjdMIIt8

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Jul  1 08:20:39 2011
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 09:20:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hooning at Road America
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I've got video on the Red Rat going thru Turn 5 sideways with a LOT less
horsepower....

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Subject: [Spridgets] Hooning at Road America

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 10:04:40 2011
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:04:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

I am posting this for Bob Maniaci.  He's tried to post it twice but I
never saw it show up on the list.....

Hey Guys
I'll run the scenario by you guys and maybe someone can help. I bought
my wife a '59
948cc bugeye for her b'day, car came from Fla. via Texas. The bugeye
was blowing alot
of smoke and oil coming out of the exhaust. I got a new 12G295 head and had new
valves(3 angle grind)springs, bronze guides, and seals installed, Greg
Groiss and myself
removed the old head installed the new one( and found out that the
bugeye has .020 flat
top pistons)after installation 3 we did another compression test and
came out w/ the
following #'s cyl.#1 160, #2 155, #3 150, #4 150 reinstalld the plugs
and fired her up.
Immediately a plume of smoke shot out of the exhaust and got
progressively worse. Is it
possible the smoke is from residual oil in the exhaust. or is it
possible w/even those
compression #'s I have ring problem or something else I'm missing? If
it's the oil in the
exhaust pipe/muffler is there a way to to clear it without running the
car and having it
look like J. Bond switching on the smoke? (LIke seafoam) Any hlp or insight is
appreciated

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul  1 10:58:42 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:58:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201107010958882.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Let me add a little more info from several conversations Bob and I had......
    He said that the oil pressure reads like 40 or 50 at idle. He 
said the rockers seemed tight enough. I asked him to do a dry and wet 
compression test and haven't heard back. I suggested also that he 
take out the pressure relief valve plunger and spring to check that 
it wasn't stuck somehow.  Probably better advice would be to hook up 
a separate oil pressure gauge to test. I was trying to dissuade him 
from doing a re-ring job without further investigating.  I'm 
wondering if the oil pressure is so high that the it's getting by the 
rocker bushes and filling the valve cover with oil.
     Other suggestions welcomed.
Peter C
----------
At 11:04 AM 7/1/2011, Gregory Groiss wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I am posting this for Bob Maniaci.  He's tried to post it twice but I
>never saw it show up on the list.....
>
>Hey Guys
>I'll run the scenario by you guys and maybe someone can help. I bought
>my wife a '59
>948cc bugeye for her b'day, car came from Fla. via Texas. The bugeye
>was blowing alot
>of smoke and oil coming out of the exhaust. I got a new 12G295 head 
>and had new
>valves(3 angle grind)springs, bronze guides, and seals installed, Greg
>Groiss and myself
>removed the old head installed the new one( and found out that the
>bugeye has .020 flat
>top pistons)after installation 3 we did another compression test and
>came out w/ the
>following #'s cyl.#1 160, #2 155, #3 150, #4 150 reinstalld the plugs
>and fired her up.
>Immediately a plume of smoke shot out of the exhaust and got
>progressively worse. Is it
>possible the smoke is from residual oil in the exhaust. or is it
>possible w/even those
>compression #'s I have ring problem or something else I'm missing? If
>it's the oil in the
>exhaust pipe/muffler is there a way to to clear it without running the
>car and having it
>look like J. Bond switching on the smoke? (LIke seafoam) Any hlp or insight is
>appreciated
>_______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  1 11:03:37 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 10:03:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <678101B3D52C4632BC3A7AD06BF0F966@spider>

I had this problem once with a Chevy truck, 1967 straight-6. The diaphragm
on the fuel pump was leaking gasoline into the oil, raising the oil level.
We didn't have a mosquito for six blocks around. Check your oil level and
give the dip stick drip the old sniff test. ...bill in corvallis
===================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Groiss
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:05 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net; ROBERT MANIACI
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem

Hello All,

I am posting this for Bob Maniaci.  He's tried to post it twice but I
never saw it show up on the list.....

Hey Guys
I'll run the scenario by you guys and maybe someone can help. I bought
my wife a '59
948cc bugeye for her b'day, car came from Fla. via Texas. The bugeye
was blowing alot
of smoke and oil coming out of the exhaust. I got a new 12G295 head and had
new
valves(3 angle grind)springs, bronze guides, and seals installed, Greg
Groiss and myself
removed the old head installed the new one( and found out that the
bugeye has .020 flat
top pistons)after installation 3 we did another compression test and
came out w/ the
following #'s cyl.#1 160, #2 155, #3 150, #4 150 reinstalld the plugs
and fired her up.
Immediately a plume of smoke shot out of the exhaust and got
progressively worse. Is it
possible the smoke is from residual oil in the exhaust. or is it
possible w/even those
compression #'s I have ring problem or something else I'm missing? If
it's the oil in the
exhaust pipe/muffler is there a way to to clear it without running the
car and having it
look like J. Bond switching on the smoke? (LIke seafoam) Any hlp or insight
is
appreciated
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From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Fri Jul  1 11:09:13 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:09:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00dc01cc3811$9ac1bf90$d0453eb0$@rr.com>

Compression comes from the top rings on the pistons. The bottom ring is the
oil control ring. You can have good compression and have bad rings. Engines
using oil will sometime have great compression because the oil provide a
better seal for the compression rings. 

If you replace the rings, you need to clean the ring grooves on the pistons,
hone the cylinder walls, and stagger the rings. There will be some oil usage
until the rings are seated. Oil consumption from new rings should disappear
after 500-1000 miles. 

Smoke from valve stem seals usually occurs when the engine is first started
and disappears after the engine is run for a few minutes. The smoke comes
from oil running down the valve stem after the engine is stopped or after a
downshift where the throttle is closed and the oil is sucked down the valve
stems. If the valve to valve guide clearance is correct and the valve stem
seals are OK it will likely be a ring issue. 

The above answer is based on a stock 948 that is using oil. A later model
that is equipped with a PCV valve can suck oil it out of the engine if the
PCV valve is not working correctly resulting in oil smoke. 

Also, you need to make sure the oil is good. If you have had a really rich
running engine, you could have gasoline contaminated oil which will leak
past the rings. Pull the dipstick and smell the oil, if you don't smell
gasoline, you will probably have to re-ring the engine.

Jim 


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Groiss
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:05 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net; ROBERT MANIACI
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem

Hello All,

I am posting this for Bob Maniaci.  He's tried to post it twice but I
never saw it show up on the list.....

Hey Guys
I'll run the scenario by you guys and maybe someone can help. I bought
my wife a '59
948cc bugeye for her b'day, car came from Fla. via Texas. The bugeye
was blowing alot
of smoke and oil coming out of the exhaust. I got a new 12G295 head and had
new
valves(3 angle grind)springs, bronze guides, and seals installed, Greg
Groiss and myself
removed the old head installed the new one( and found out that the
bugeye has .020 flat
top pistons)after installation 3 we did another compression test and
came out w/ the
following #'s cyl.#1 160, #2 155, #3 150, #4 150 reinstalld the plugs
and fired her up.
Immediately a plume of smoke shot out of the exhaust and got
progressively worse. Is it
possible the smoke is from residual oil in the exhaust. or is it
possible w/even those
compression #'s I have ring problem or something else I'm missing? If
it's the oil in the
exhaust pipe/muffler is there a way to to clear it without running the
car and having it
look like J. Bond switching on the smoke? (LIke seafoam) Any hlp or insight
is
appreciated
_______________________________________________

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 11:09:54 2011
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:09:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
In-Reply-To: <201107010958882.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<201107010958882.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimLM3Ghv44RgJzSy8ROLvWkw7gpvA@mail.gmail.com>

I believe Bob said he checked the pressure relief valve and it seemed
fine.  I think a leak down-test may provide us more info than a wet
compression test.  The compression is good in all cylinders and that's
with two different gauges just to be sure.  I'm thinking if we did a
leak-down test we may be able to hear air escaping if the rings are
that bad.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> Let me add a little more info from several conversations Bob and I
had......
>   He said that the oil pressure reads like 40 or 50 at idle. He said the
> rockers seemed tight enough. I asked him to do a dry and wet compression
> test and haven't heard back. I suggested also that he take out the pressure
> relief valve plunger and spring to check that it wasn't stuck somehow.
>  Probably better advice would be to hook up a separate oil pressure gauge
to
> test. I was trying to dissuade him from doing a re-ring job without further
> investigating.  I'm wondering if the oil pressure is so high that the it's
> getting by the rocker bushes and filling the valve cover with oil.
>    Other suggestions welcomed.
> Peter C
> ----------
> At 11:04 AM 7/1/2011, Gregory Groiss wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am posting this for Bob Maniaci.  He's tried to post it twice but I
>> never saw it show up on the list.....
>>
>> Hey Guys
>> I'll run the scenario by you guys and maybe someone can help. I bought
>> my wife a '59
>> 948cc bugeye for her b'day, car came from Fla. via Texas. The bugeye
>> was blowing alot
>> of smoke and oil coming out of the exhaust. I got a new 12G295 head and
>> had new
>> valves(3 angle grind)springs, bronze guides, and seals installed, Greg
>> Groiss and myself
>> removed the old head installed the new one( and found out that the
>> bugeye has .020 flat
>> top pistons)after installation 3 we did another compression test and
>> came out w/ the
>> following #'s cyl.#1 160, #2 155, #3 150, #4 150 reinstalld the plugs
>> and fired her up.
>> Immediately a plume of smoke shot out of the exhaust and got
>> progressively worse. Is it
>> possible the smoke is from residual oil in the exhaust. or is it
>> possible w/even those
>> compression #'s I have ring problem or something else I'm missing? If
>> it's the oil in the
>> exhaust pipe/muffler is there a way to to clear it without running the
>> car and having it
>> look like J. Bond switching on the smoke? (LIke seafoam) Any hlp or
>> insight is
>> appreciated
>> _______________________________________________

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 11:21:33 2011
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:21:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
In-Reply-To: <00dc01cc3811$9ac1bf90$d0453eb0$@rr.com>
References: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<00dc01cc3811$9ac1bf90$d0453eb0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=yGSrXfopXkeCy-ErFAsO9FXbCPw@mail.gmail.com>

One of the issues with doing the pings is figuring out what pistons
are in the car.  They are flat top pistons that just have 0.02 and an
"v" shaped arrow mark at the edge of the piston pointing towards the
front of the engine. He has no idea if they are 3, 4 or 5 ring.  Even
if the pistons are pulled and we know how many rings they have is
there any way to figure out what rings will fit correctly? Oh, and a
ring job can be done in a 948 without removing the engine right
(fingers crossed)?

Greg

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Jim Seippel <aseippel at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Compression comes from the top rings on the pistons. The bottom ring is the
> oil control ring. You can have good compression and have bad rings. Engines
> using oil will sometime have great compression because the oil provide a
> better seal for the compression rings.
>
> If you replace the rings, you need to clean the ring grooves on the
pistons,
> hone the cylinder walls, and stagger the rings. There will be some oil
usage
> until the rings are seated. Oil consumption from new rings should disappear
> after 500-1000 miles.
>
> Smoke from valve stem seals usually occurs when the engine is first started
> and disappears after the engine is run for a few minutes. The smoke comes
> from oil running down the valve stem after the engine is stopped or after a
> downshift where the throttle is closed and the oil is sucked down the valve
> stems. If the valve to valve guide clearance is correct and the valve stem
> seals are OK it will likely be a ring issue.
>
> The above answer is based on a stock 948 that is using oil. A later model
> that is equipped with a PCV valve can suck oil it out of the engine if the
> PCV valve is not working correctly resulting in oil smoke.
>
> Also, you need to make sure the oil is good. If you have had a really rich
> running engine, you could have gasoline contaminated oil which will leak
> past the rings. Pull the dipstick and smell the oil, if you don't smell
> gasoline, you will probably have to re-ring the engine.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Groiss
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:05 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net; ROBERT MANIACI
> Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am posting this for Bob Maniaci.  He's tried to post it twice but I
> never saw it show up on the list.....
>
> Hey Guys
> I'll run the scenario by you guys and maybe someone can help. I bought
> my wife a '59
> 948cc bugeye for her b'day, car came from Fla. via Texas. The bugeye
> was blowing alot
> of smoke and oil coming out of the exhaust. I got a new 12G295 head and had
> new
> valves(3 angle grind)springs, bronze guides, and seals installed, Greg
> Groiss and myself
> removed the old head installed the new one( and found out that the
> bugeye has .020 flat
> top pistons)after installation 3 we did another compression test and
> came out w/ the
> following #'s cyl.#1 160, #2 155, #3 150, #4 150 reinstalld the plugs
> and fired her up.
> Immediately a plume of smoke shot out of the exhaust and got
> progressively worse. Is it
> possible the smoke is from residual oil in the exhaust. or is it
> possible w/even those
> compression #'s I have ring problem or something else I'm missing? If
> it's the oil in the
> exhaust pipe/muffler is there a way to to clear it without running the
> car and having it
> look like J. Bond switching on the smoke? (LIke seafoam) Any hlp or insight
> is
> appreciated
> _______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul  1 11:28:31 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:28:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 With A Bad Smoking Problem
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimLM3Ghv44RgJzSy8ROLvWkw7gpvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=wGyj3SpDW=wbLK+TmoONZTDUn5A@mail.gmail.com>
	<201107010958882.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BANLkTimLM3Ghv44RgJzSy8ROLvWkw7gpvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110701102851.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I agree. I mentioned a leakdown test, but it didn't seem he had the 
tools for that.  Get the car running for a while and take a peek in 
the valve cover. It should not be full of oil. I have a feeling 
that's the problem.
         Peter
==
At 12:09 PM 7/1/2011, Gregory Groiss wrote:
>I believe Bob said he checked the pressure relief valve and it seemed
>fine.  I think a leak down-test may provide us more info than a wet
>compression test.  The compression is good in all cylinders and that's
>with two different gauges just to be sure.  I'm thinking if we did a
>leak-down test we may be able to hear air escaping if the rings are
>that bad.
>
>On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> > Let me add a little more info from several conversations Bob and 
> I had.......
> >   He said that the oil pressure reads like 40 or 50 at idle. He said the
> > rockers seemed tight enough. I asked him to do a dry and wet compression
>
> > test and haven't heard back. I suggested also that he take out the pressure
> > relief valve plunger and spring to check that it wasn't stuck somehow.
> >  Probably better advice would be to hook up a separate oil 
> pressure gauge to
> > test. I was trying to dissuade him from doing a re-ring job without further
> > investigating.  I'm wondering if the oil pressure is so high that the it's
> > getting by the rocker bushes and filling the valve cover with oil.
> >    Other suggestions welcomed.
> > Peter C
> > ----------
> > At 11:04 AM 7/1/2011, Gregory Groiss wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> I am posting this for Bob Maniaci.  He's tried to post it twice but I
>
> >> never saw it show up on the list.....
> >>
> >> Hey Guys
> >> I'll run the scenario by you guys and maybe someone can help. I bought
> >> my wife a '59
> >> 948cc bugeye for her b'day, car came from Fla. via Texas. The bugeye
> >> was blowing alot
> >> of smoke and oil coming out of the exhaust. I got a new 12G295 head and
>
> >> had new
> >> valves(3 angle grind)springs, bronze guides, and seals installed, Greg
> >> Groiss and myself
> >> removed the old head installed the new one( and found out that the
> >> bugeye has .020 flat
> >> top pistons)after installation 3 we did another compression test and
> >> came out w/ the
> >> following #'s cyl.#1 160, #2 155, #3 150, #4 150 reinstalld the plugs
> >> and fired her up.
> >> Immediately a plume of smoke shot out of the exhaust and got
> >> progressively worse. Is it
> >> possible the smoke is from residual oil in the exhaust. or is it
> >> possible w/even those
> >> compression #'s I have ring problem or something else I'm missing? If
> >> it's the oil in the
> >> exhaust pipe/muffler is there a way to to clear it without running the
> >> car and having it
> >> look like J. Bond switching on the smoke? (LIke seafoam) Any hlp or
> >> insight is
> >> appreciated
> >> _______________________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
>
>-----
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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Fri Jul  1 14:27:56 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 20:27:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
Message-ID: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110>

Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
   I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
Any more ideas ?  TIA
Alan Warwick UK

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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  1 14:56:08 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:56:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
In-Reply-To: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110>
References: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110>
Message-ID: <AAF568E3CC044ED490012BFC8EC9005D@spider>

Check the inside of the distributor cap for a faint layer of water
condensation. ...bill in corvallis
======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine

Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
   I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
Any more ideas ?  TIA
Alan Warwick UK

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From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Jul  1 15:01:41 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 22:01:41 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
References: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110>
Message-ID: <20C4ACC2CA9A46D287C66563FB30C8E4@user8634b3d69b>

Compression test?
Dizzy cap tracking after getting wet?  (Look at in the dark.)
Plug leads breaking up if carbon string type?
All of the traditional misfire reasons and it was just Murphy's Law that you 
had fitted rev counter and it was raining.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:27 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine


> Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
> Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
> misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
>   I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
> drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
> soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
> to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
> is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
>  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
> my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
> Any more ideas ?  TIA
> Alan Warwick UK
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 15:49:28 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:49:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
In-Reply-To: <20C4ACC2CA9A46D287C66563FB30C8E4@user8634b3d69b>
References: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110>
	<20C4ACC2CA9A46D287C66563FB30C8E4@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimPhoBfKzKXv2uih3MWyieG=dPq+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I'm with Guy on this one...  Easy stuff first...  Over the years I've had
water in a dizzy cap a few dozen times.  Clean the inside of the dizzy cap
first with ether or isoprop. After Dark, pop the bonnet and start the car in
the dark. Watch your plug wires, plugs and dizzy.  If you have a light show
going on...   well....

Murphy was an optimist.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Compression test?
> Dizzy cap tracking after getting wet?  (Look at in the dark.)
> Plug leads breaking up if carbon string type?
> All of the traditional misfire reasons and it was just Murphy's Law that
> you had fitted rev counter and it was raining.
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com>
>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:27 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
>
>
>  Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
>> Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
>> misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
>>  I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
>> drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
>> soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
>> to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
>> is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
>>  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
>> my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
>> Any more ideas ?  TIA
>> Alan Warwick UK
>>
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From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Fri Jul  1 15:53:01 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:53:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
In-Reply-To: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110>
References: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110>
Message-ID: <00fa01cc3839$3fe1b670$bfa52350$@rr.com>

Valve problems usually appear as a misfire/rough idle. Engine smoothes out
at speed, but car has a loss of power. It is 90%+ likely to be an ignition
problem. 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 3:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine

Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
   I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
Any more ideas ?  TIA
Alan Warwick UK

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  1 16:45:27 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 15:45:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimPhoBfKzKXv2uih3MWyieG=dPq+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <em128e95c3-981c-4855-a21d-942dca7c4b02@Win7-101110><20C4ACC2CA9A46D287C66563FB30C8E4@user8634b3d69b>
	<BANLkTimPhoBfKzKXv2uih3MWyieG=dPq+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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What he said. Cheap and easy. ...bill in corvallis
========================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 2:49 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine

I'm with Guy on this one...  Easy stuff first...  Over the years I've had
water in a dizzy cap a few dozen times.  Clean the inside of the dizzy cap
first with ether or isopropyl. After Dark, pop the bonnet and start the car
in
the dark. Watch your plug wires, plugs and dizzy.  If you have a light show
going on...   well....

Murphy was an optimist.

Cheers!!
Jim

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 19:49:10 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:49:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] If You Can't Find Something Interesting ...
Message-ID: <1309571350.22189.YahooMailClassic@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

in this video, you probably don't belong on the list: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-YU9mRHB8M&feature=player_embedded

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 22:05:02 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 00:05:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] If You Can't Find Something Interesting ...
In-Reply-To: <1309571350.22189.YahooMailClassic@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1309571350.22189.YahooMailClassic@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTiktYGyHBR5PEnHT087Hu92jKjqfiw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:49 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:
in this video, you probably don't belong on the list:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-YU9mRHB8M&feature=player_embedded
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The gal on the Indian is my future ex-wife!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - Gone but not yet forgotten!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 04:21:20 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 03:21:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] If You Can't Find Something Interesting ...
In-Reply-To: <1309571350.22189.YahooMailClassic@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1309571350.22189.YahooMailClassic@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1309602080.69130.YahooMailRC@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

...in this video, you probably don't belong 
on the list:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-YU9mRHB8M&feature=player_embedded

Forget
belonging to the list. If you didn't find 
something interesting there, it
should be the 
final proof that you died in your sleep last 
night and you've
just not realized it yet.  Title 
came up on screen... OK, that's an
interesting 
enough subject - can take it or leave it, but ok, 
I'll agree
with the email title. Then the silhouette 
comes up and things change. Hmmm,
very 
interested now. Then the AC and driver. 
WOW getting better all the
time, Now the 
passenger, then the pilot, then the bike... 
Every few seconds,
they bump the interest 
level another notch (or ten) in the video. It just
adds layer after layer after layer of interesting 
aspects. 

Thanks for
sharing Rick! Great way to start 
off my Saturday morning.

David Booker
Long
Island

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 08:29:36 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 07:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
Message-ID: <1309616976.12486.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

... but it might not be such a selling point.  Anyone see something amiss: 
http://tinyurl.com/3dnml6p

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From nases at verizon.net  Sat Jul  2 09:08:06 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 11:08:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for wheel bits
Message-ID: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>

I am planning to mount a set of revolution wheels on the bugeye.  I need
sleeved lug nuts and the heavy washers and also the rigid valve stems.  Where
can I find this stuff.  Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 09:21:13 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:21:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
In-Reply-To: <1309616976.12486.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1309616976.12486.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupSDOAm_vcRtvpVyj89Rd=dfqmOVRqZL9Dk_TdgMy0p-w@mail.gmail.com>

Ummmm....   Driveshaft tunnel?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:29 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> ... but it might not be such a selling point.  Anyone see something amiss:
> http://tinyurl.com/3dnml6p
>
> Rick
>
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 09:28:57 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:28:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for wheel bits
In-Reply-To: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>
References: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqLUzDO=uxYqtjoqVwA-1xNrR9F45MaLx44o5imPrWAcg@mail.gmail.com>

Someone else' car late at night?   ;-)

Red Green

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> I am planning to mount a set of revolution wheels on the bugeye.  I need
> sleeved lug nuts and the heavy washers and also the rigid valve stems.
>  Where
> can I find this stuff.  Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul  2 09:53:22 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:53:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] If You Can't Find Something Interesting ...
Message-ID: <19a5a1.78311ae8.3b4098f2@aol.com>

Took my Sprite into the bodyshop this morning to get the rear arches flared 
 and in a corner of the shop there's an AC Ace.  The other day 2 bi-planes  
flow over my house.
 
I guess I just need my wife to walk on the wings of my car and I can make a 
 decent video clip.  'Course you guys can't do that because your cars don't 
 have wings they have fenders..
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 02/07/2011 11:25:49 GMT Daylight Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

...in  this video, you probably don't belong 
on the  list:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-YU9mRHB8M&feature=player_embedded

Forget
belonging  to the list. If you didn't find 
something interesting there, it
should  be the 
final proof that you died in your sleep last 
night and  you've
just not realized it yet.  Title 
came up on screen... OK,  that's an
interesting 
enough subject - can take it or leave it, but ok,  
I'll agree
with the email title. Then the silhouette 
comes up and  things change. Hmmm,
very 
interested now. Then the AC and driver.  
WOW getting better all the
time, Now the 
passenger, then the pilot,  then the bike... 
Every few seconds,
they bump the interest 
level  another notch (or ten) in the video. It just
adds layer after layer after  layer of interesting 
aspects. 

Thanks for
sharing Rick! Great  way to start 
off my Saturday morning.

David  Booker
Long
Island
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul  2 09:55:37 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:55:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
Message-ID: <19a668.6154daac.3b409979@aol.com>

Might be the coil if the problem is only at higher RPMs.  If you can't  fix 
it have a drive over to mine some time.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 01/07/2011 21:51:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com writes:

Any  thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others   !
Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine  started
misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
I had fitted an  RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
drove there on  motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
soft top up.  Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
to the problem,  the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
is still there but  at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
Another  suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
my gut  feeling is valve seat recession.
Any more ideas ?  TIA
Alan Warwick  UK

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 10:14:39 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 09:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupSDOAm_vcRtvpVyj89Rd=dfqmOVRqZL9Dk_TdgMy0p-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1309623279.77313.YahooMailClassic@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Well, there's that and ...   look at the right hand supporting the footwell
(or in this case you'd probably have to call it the footdome)

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sat, 7/2/11, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
To:
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:21 AM

Ummmm....   Driveshaft tunnel?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:29 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> ... but it might not be such a selling point.  Anyone see something amiss:
> http://tinyurl.com/3dnml6p
>
> Rick
>
--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 10:18:19 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:18:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
In-Reply-To: <19a668.6154daac.3b409979@aol.com>
References: <19a668.6154daac.3b409979@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r-8O-aGacp9ETBcv21wEOaN46BvgnKELzvJYpqKZ8w6FQ@mail.gmail.com>

Do they sell the fuel over there, with additives, like here in the US? I
bought some "HEET" to add to mine, and it helps to blend the water back into
the fuel. It is running smoother now. If anyone is unfamiliar with this
product, and would like a photo of the bottle, to help them find some of
their own, just send me an off list message.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:55 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> Might be the coil if the problem is only at higher RPMs.  If you can't  fix
> it have a drive over to mine some time.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
> In a message dated 01/07/2011 21:51:11 GMT Daylight Time,
> alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com writes:
>
> Any  thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others   !
> Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine  started
> misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
> I had fitted an  RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
> drove there on  motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
> soft top up.  Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
> to the problem,  the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
> is still there but  at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
> Another  suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
> my gut  feeling is valve seat recession.
> Any more ideas ?  TIA
> Alan Warwick  UK
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 11:07:27 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:07:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
In-Reply-To: <1309623279.77313.YahooMailClassic@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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With more than a little experience reading photographs, I think that it is
just a case of the lighting being confusing that makes it seem the foot well
is upside down.  Look at the reflection of the man's red hat in the
picture.  Almost certainly that would not show up if the well sloped up.
Look at the next couple of photos and you will see that the front (with
respect to the car) of all the transverse channels (grooves, whatever) are
dark, as is the front of the well.  The pictures show them almost certainly
as below the floor pan. This is another hint that the well is indeed a well.
We know that "photographs never lie" but on the other hand things ain't
always what they seem.

Hal

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:14 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well, there's that and ...   look at the right hand supporting the footwell
> (or in this case you'd probably have to call it the footdome)
>
> Rick
>
>
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
> --- On Sat, 7/2/11, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
> To:
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:21 AM
>
> Ummmm....   Driveshaft tunnel?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:29 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > ... but it might not be such a selling point.  Anyone see something
> amiss:
> > http://tinyurl.com/3dnml6p
> >
> > Rick
> >
> --
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  2 11:16:07 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:16:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimuP5yXiEEFVyfvncKHdu3FO=j9yA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1309626967.29731.YahooMailClassic@web161212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hal,

On second look, I think you're right.  The thumb on the hand on the footwell
appears to be facing downwards rather than upwards.  Pretty weird optical
illusion and at least the seller doesn't have to reweld the floors ;>/

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sat, 7/2/11, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
To: "HealeyRick" <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 1:07 PM

With more than a little experience reading photographs, I think that it is
just a case of the lighting being confusing that makes it seem the foot well
is upside down.  Look at the reflection of the man's red hat in the picture. 
Almost certainly that would not show up if the well sloped up.  Look at the
next couple of photos and you will see that the front  (with respect to the
car) of all the transverse channels (grooves, whatever) are dark, as is the
front of the well.  The pictures show them almost certainly as below the floor
pan. This is another hint that the well is indeed a well.

We know that "photographs never lie" but on the other hand things ain't
always what they seem. 

Hal

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:14 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

Well, there's that and ...   look at the right hand supporting the footwell

(or in this case you'd probably have to call it the footdome)


Rick

From biffjones at verizon.net  Sat Jul  2 11:35:51 2011
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:35:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
References: <1309616976.12486.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <73A0E1C379E549CCBC9586E3EF9A18BA@dell1>

The VIN is one I sold at Carlisle to a guy who bought this rust bucket. I 
had the VIN plate, title, and the numbers off the firewall behind the 
heater.

Biff 

From herby at herbytoys.com  Sat Jul  2 12:00:50 2011
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:00:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for wheel bits
In-Reply-To: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>
References: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <A973C9ADAD52416C82DB307571EC2BD3@HERBYZ>

Phil,
Revolutions usually have a smaller diameter lug hole, 5/8" I think where a
standard mag lug hole is 11/16". You may have to go through a Revolution
dealer to obtain them. If yours are standard 11/16" I believe I have a set
of sleeved 3/8 thread lug nuts. Bought a few sets from Alan (don't remember
his last name) when he had some made up years ago.

Valve stems shouldn't be too hard. I've found them at my FLAPS before. Or
check this site out   http://www.prestigewheel.com/mainValveStems.htm



Herby
62 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy)
00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com


I am planning to mount a set of revolution wheels on the bugeye.  I need
sleeved lug nuts and the heavy washers and also the rigid valve stems.
Where
can I find this stuff.  Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Jul  2 14:30:24 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:30:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for wheel bits
In-Reply-To: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>
References: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <76AAC188-EC69-45FC-A220-AEA0870FE842@chartermi.net>

Hi Phil,

A guy named "Zenbutcher" used to sell sleeved nuts on ebay.  Right now all he
has listed are some open ended sleeve nuts that may work.  Check out this
listing and send him an email.

http://tinyurl.com/3uzdkzb

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 2, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> I am planning to mount a set of revolution wheels on the bugeye.  I need
> sleeved lug nuts and the heavy washers and also the rigid valve stems.
Where
> can I find this stuff.  Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> _______________________________________________

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 15:05:43 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:05:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
In-Reply-To: <73A0E1C379E549CCBC9586E3EF9A18BA@dell1>
References: <1309616976.12486.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<73A0E1C379E549CCBC9586E3EF9A18BA@dell1>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVcWcuRq8OxWrQJaWNWhgrAvkAZhYsJ4vWGPcEaXEhubjg@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting Biff, was it as bad as those welds? Kinda scarey.

Yea Rick cool optical illusion .......
Lin

PS Wish I was at the 50th! Anyone see any photos yet?

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:

> The VIN is one I sold at Carlisle to a guy who bought this rust bucket. I
> had the VIN plate, title, and the numbers off the firewall behind the
> heater.
>
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From biffjones at verizon.net  Sat Jul  2 15:21:53 2011
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:21:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for wheel bits
References: <9748BAEE-B801-45B0-8D37-D805FDBE8DA9@verizon.net>
	<76AAC188-EC69-45FC-A220-AEA0870FE842@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <C67F257564F54AF8B881ABEBB921A9F5@dell1>

Phil,

Send an email to Alan Fisher  frogeye at cox.net  and see if he has any more of 
the shouldered wheel nuts. They are sized for standard spridget lugs.

Biff 

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Jul  2 15:23:51 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:23:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVcWcuRq8OxWrQJaWNWhgrAvkAZhYsJ4vWGPcEaXEhubjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1309616976.12486.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<73A0E1C379E549CCBC9586E3EF9A18BA@dell1>
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Uh Lin?  The 50th Celebration doesn't start until the 18th.  :-)

Rick



On Jul 2, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

> .........<snip>.........
> 
> Yea Rick cool optical illusion .......
> Lin
> 
> PS Wish I was at the 50th! Anyone see any photos yet?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 15:28:40 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:28:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks for Welding in New Floor Pans
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVcWcuRq8OxWrQJaWNWhgrAvkAZhYsJ4vWGPcEaXEhubjg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<73A0E1C379E549CCBC9586E3EF9A18BA@dell1>
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Lin,

We thought carefully about posting some photos of the event 2 weeks before
it happened, but discovered that our time machine wasn't working...
Something wrong with the rincback beamisator I think...   ;-)

July 18-22

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Interesting Biff, was it as bad as those welds? Kinda scarey.
>
> Yea Rick cool optical illusion .......
> Lin
>
> PS Wish I was at the 50th! Anyone see any photos yet?
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > The VIN is one I sold at Carlisle to a guy who bought this rust bucket. I
> > had the VIN plate, title, and the numbers off the firewall behind the
> > heater.
> >
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Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Jul  2 15:56:31 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:56:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] who would have thought...
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r-8O-aGacp9ETBcv21wEOaN46BvgnKELzvJYpqKZ8w6FQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I never thought about it-I know our cars are small and the interiors are
rather Spartan, but realizing that the two bolts that support the seat back
are adjustable as well as removable makes one hell of a difference!  No more
bi-focal windshield!

See ya in 16 days

Chris 

66 MKIII 1275

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jul  2 16:38:25 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:38:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] who would have thought...
In-Reply-To: <001901cc3902$e71172e0$b53458a0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <CA34EBF1.1A76F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  the two bolts that support the seat back
> are adjustable as well as removable makes one hell of a difference!
You mean without making new holes and welding washers around them?
How'd you do that? What seat style? Obviously not a Bugeye. I don't think
that rear deck would allow you to recline much.
BZ

From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Jul  2 17:46:37 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:46:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] This is to cool.
References: <1309637822.73433.YahooMailClassic@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DFF9D4BD-351D-4A9F-B2A7-3316DB95C315@ado13.com>

>> Subject: Bad Day at the Drags
>> 
>>  
>> http://www.wimp.com/whenaccelerating/

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Sat Jul  2 19:43:19 2011
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:43:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye eba posting w child seat
Message-ID: <20409632.779499.1309657400012.JavaMail.root@vms170035>


From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Jul  2 21:27:34 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 23:27:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
Message-ID: <000001cc3931$269ff660$73dfe320$@hky.com>

My wife and I have been together just a month or two longer than my '72
Midget and I have been (29 years).  Although I can't really claim to have
married a "car babe", she really comes through for me, sometimes.

The other night, I had a Pittsburgh Vintage GP meeting to attend, at our
local Porsche dealership.  The attendees were all going to be Porsche Club
of America members.  I was going to just go by myself, but it was such a
nice, warm summer evening that I invited my wife along, thinking that she'd
want to take one of the modern cars, with AC or our old Porsche 356B.  To my
surprise and delight, she held-out for the Midget!  She said that she hadn't
had a long, top down ride in the Midget since last summer and she was really
looking forward to it.  IS MY WIFE AWESOME, OR WHAT????  She still loves to
fold her long-legged, 5'8" frame into that Midget and get wind-blown,
sun-burned and bounced around, roasted, frozen or everything combined after
all these years.  I'm beginning to think I really DID make the right choice
all those years ago.  Twice!

Pulling onto the Porsche dealer parking lot in our wire wheeled, Tartan Red
Midget and parking among a sea of new Porsches, we got a lot of attention.
People were actually gathering around the Midget while we were inside the
Porsche dealership (our oldest son works there).  When I walked out to move
the Midget next door to the BMW dealership (same family owns the Porsche,
Audi and BMW dealerships), there were still people standing around the car
and offering compliments ("great old MG", "nice car", etc.).   Arriving at
the upstairs meeting room, my MG was the topic of conversation and I learned
that many of the Porsche guys had very fond memories of MGs, with a couple
of them still having MGs tucked away in their garages (one guy has a '49 TC
that he's had since Ike was still "da man").

It's kind of funny how, although my Porsche is vastly superior in every
department (in spite of being 10 years older than the Midget), my wife and I
get every bit as much enjoyment out of our Midget as we do our Porsche. 

 

Bud Osbourne

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 23:38:13 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 00:38:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
In-Reply-To: <000001cc3931$269ff660$73dfe320$@hky.com>
References: <000001cc3931$269ff660$73dfe320$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqdyzcZc7nRKA+H221ka=5XtYj6xRBt7jPka+0XNGe4qw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
<snip>
 She still loves to

> fold her long-legged, 5'8" frame into that Midget and get wind-blown,
> sun-burned and bounced around, roasted, frozen or everything combined after
> all these years.
>

You are indeed a lucky man, Bud.  Had it been my wife she would have
taken the keys from me and made me fold my 6' frame into the passenger
seat!!

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 01:28:34 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 00:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuqdyzcZc7nRKA+H221ka=5XtYj6xRBt7jPka+0XNGe4qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001cc3931$269ff660$73dfe320$@hky.com>
	<CAJgjnuqdyzcZc7nRKA+H221ka=5XtYj6xRBt7jPka+0XNGe4qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1309678114.98964.YahooMailNeo@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lynette asked me to get a Fiat 500 today. She said she is sort of over the
romance of breaking down in my LBCs. I pointed out Fiat's reliability
reputation..now I can't have a Fiat either! Lynette is actually a fantastic
sport, the best.
 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
________________________________
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To:
Cc: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2011 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011
at 10:27 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
<snip>
She still loves to

>
fold her long-legged, 5'8" frame into that Midget and get wind-blown,
>
sun-burned and bounced around, roasted, frozen or everything combined after
>
all these years.
>

You are indeed a lucky man, Bud.  Had it been my wife she
would have
taken the keys from me and made me fold my 6' frame into the
passenger
seat!!

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget
50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 02:02:35 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 01:02:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Very funny
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAFsOYkxa9R=rTjTOAUb=HboYcocm4ObW6KZWgt=yxz2Yg@mail.gmail.com>

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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Sun Jul  3 03:59:00 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 09:59:00 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
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Hi all,
Lots of good suggestions about Misfiring on the frogeye. It turned out
to be a loose nut on the post in the dizzy that contains the the top
hat insulator.  When I got in there I thought that the points spring
seemed soft , Aha I though,  it was points  bounce at high revs  , I
found my magneto spanners and feelers (already set to 12 thou for
valves  ) from  where I left them the last time I touched an A series
engine about 10 years ago.   Made a start, the earth wire looked good -
it was insulated not the shoelace type , condensor looked new then I
went to undo the nut for the points and found it loose .  Tightened it
up and problem has gone away.  I will check the valve clearance too
tho' as the previous owner had never heard of a torque wrench -
virtually every nut and bolt was loose on the car when I got it ,
including suspension - I thought I had got most of them  - I hadn't
thought about looking in the engine or dizzy etc !
  Had a nice 30 mile drive in the English countryside to celebrate and a
couple of pints of Guinness  - weather was great  didn't even have  the
tonneau cover on - it drove well - now need to grease the front
suspension though !!

Cheers  all,  thanks for the advice .
Alan
Warwick UK
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 3:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine

Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
   I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
Any more ideas ?  TIA
Alan Warwick UK

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Sun Jul  3 03:59:00 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 09:59:00 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
In-Reply-To: <00fa01cc3839$3fe1b670$bfa52350$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <em4f06dec4-a54b-4669-a91d-d05f1bf11600@Win7-101110>

Hi all,
Lots of good suggestions about Misfiring on the frogeye. It turned out
to be a loose nut on the post in the dizzy that contains the the top
hat insulator.  When I got in there I thought that the points spring
seemed soft , Aha I though,  it was points  bounce at high revs  , I
found my magneto spanners and feelers (already set to 12 thou for
valves  ) from  where I left them the last time I touched an A series
engine about 10 years ago.   Made a start, the earth wire looked good -
it was insulated not the shoelace type , condensor looked new then I
went to undo the nut for the points and found it loose .  Tightened it
up and problem has gone away.  I will check the valve clearance too
tho' as the previous owner had never heard of a torque wrench -
virtually every nut and bolt was loose on the car when I got it ,
including suspension - I thought I had got most of them  - I hadn't
thought about looking in the engine or dizzy etc !
  Had a nice 30 mile drive in the English countryside to celebrate and a
couple of pints of Guinness  - weather was great  didn't even have  the
tonneau cover on - it drove well - now need to grease the front
suspension though !!

Cheers  all,  thanks for the advice .
Alan
Warwick UK
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 3:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine

Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
   I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
Any more ideas ?  TIA
Alan Warwick UK

From abcoz at hky.com  Sun Jul  3 06:45:02 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 08:45:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuqdyzcZc7nRKA+H221ka=5XtYj6xRBt7jPka+0XNGe4qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001cc3931$269ff660$73dfe320$@hky.com>
	<CAJgjnuqdyzcZc7nRKA+H221ka=5XtYj6xRBt7jPka+0XNGe4qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc397f$0826c490$18744db0$@hky.com>

My wife has logged plenty of time in the driver's seat of our Midget and our
MGB-GT over the years.  However, in recent years, most of the flight plans
she's attempted to file involve parking the car at a shopping mall.....an
instant non-starter.  She also does not like to drive with me as her
passenger.  She says my past history of racing (a LONG time ago, SCCA
E-prod.) intimidates her.
 Currently, I'm building her a '77 MGB, which she can drive without
restriction, in nice weather.
Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:38 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
<snip>
 She still loves to

> fold her long-legged, 5'8" frame into that Midget and get wind-blown, 
> sun-burned and bounced around, roasted, frozen or everything combined 
> after all these years.
>

You are indeed a lucky man, Bud.  Had it been my wife she would have taken
the keys from me and made me fold my 6' frame into the passenger seat!!

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  3 06:53:03 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 05:53:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Happy Birthday, DMH
Message-ID: <1309697583.67996.YahooMailClassic@web161203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Donald Mitchell Healey, noted British 
rally driver, automobile engineer, and speed record holder, was born on 
July 3, 1898 in Perranporth, North Cornwall, England. Following an 
apprenticeship at Sopwith Aviation, he volunteered for the Royal Flying 
Corps and earned his "wings" in 1916. After WWI, he returned home to 
study motorcars and engineering. He opened a garage, where his interest 
grew in rally competition. From the mid-'20s through the early '50s, Healey was a European rally driver of great distinction, his best finish being first in 1931, in the Monte Carlo Rally.

Immediately after WWII, Healey began to 
build his own cars; in 1946, his Elliot was the finest production saloon
 to cover 100 miles an hour. Other cars were the Silverstone and the 
Nash-Healey, which finished third overall at Le Mans in 1952.

Best-known were the Austin-Healeys, sports cars introduced in October 
1952. Various models, including Sprites, were produced until a total ran
 of nearly 200,000 of which most were exported to America.

In 1953 and 1954, Healey set American and
 international records with his cars at the Bonneville Salt Flats; and 
he recorded 203.11 in an Austin-Healey 100-6 Streamliner to join the 
exclusive 200 MPH Club in 1956.

In 1972, with Healey as chairman of Jensen Motors, the Jensen-Healey was introduced. For his "services to export," Healey was made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) by Queen Elizabeth II in 1973.

Donald M. Healey died in Perranporth on January 15, 1988, but his automobiles are still being raced, driven, collected, and enjoyed today.

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From abcoz at hky.com  Sun Jul  3 06:57:19 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 08:57:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
In-Reply-To: <1309678114.98964.YahooMailNeo@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <000001cc3931$269ff660$73dfe320$@hky.com>
	<CAJgjnuqdyzcZc7nRKA+H221ka=5XtYj6xRBt7jPka+0XNGe4qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1309678114.98964.YahooMailNeo@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000201cc3980$bfaa54f0$3efefed0$@hky.com>

Our BGT was always "bullet-proof" in the reliability department and NEVER
skipped a beat.  I rank it as the best car I've ever owned.
Our Midget has also been extremely reliable, although Cindy has experienced
a few, ahhh....unusual mechanical incidents; none of which were the car's
fault.

She once became trapped in the Midget, in a department store parking garage:
she was nine months pregnant with our youngest son (this was about a week
before he was born @ 9 months + 10 days).  She had been able to get into the
Midget, with some difficulty, but found she couldn't get out, no way-no how,
and just sat in the car laughing semi-hysterically with people looking at
this crazy woman in the tiny little car.  Luckily, I was home when she
arrived and could help her get out of the car.

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 3:29 AM
To: Jim Johnson
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......

Lynette asked me to get a Fiat 500 today. She said she is sort of over the
romance of breaking down in my LBCs. I pointed out Fiat's reliability
reputation..now I can't have a Fiat either! Lynette is actually a fantastic
sport, the best.
 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
________________________________

From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Sun Jul  3 07:31:19 2011
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:31:19 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] Happy Birthday, DMH
Message-ID: <3f9a4.1437329.3b41c927@aol.com>

Thanks for the reminder and history of one great guy!
 
I remember we were in Atlantic City for the holiday weekend about 1980 and 
we phoned him at home to wish him a Happy Birthday.
 
Rudy Streng and family

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Sun Jul  3 08:20:46 2011
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:20:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Differential
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1309370405.22689.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1309370405.22689.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <B60A7B8B-3215-49FB-BABD-F92BDE8C316B@comcast.net>

        Does a 3.9:1 differential fit into a banjo axle from a 1959  
bugeye without any modification? The stock differential is a 4.22:1

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  3 09:14:17 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 10:14:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Differential
In-Reply-To: <B60A7B8B-3215-49FB-BABD-F92BDE8C316B@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.15.1309370405.22689.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<B60A7B8B-3215-49FB-BABD-F92BDE8C316B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx785q5FzbcCtS2T5Yj2-YzO=+Knz2XZCF=BoQ6xze0C6cw@mail.gmail.com>

Yes.  Axles and housing are different but any 3.7 or 3.9 from a
Spridget should fit.

From abcoz at hky.com  Sun Jul  3 09:58:30 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 11:58:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage PG will have plenty of Spridgets
 racing, this year
Message-ID: <004801cc399a$0df2bb20$29d83160$@hky.com>

Just finished looking over the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix website
(www.pvgp.org) and was pleased to note  that there is a whole big pile of
Sprites & Spridgets on the race entry roster.  Porsche is the featured
marque and there will also be a bunch of Porsches racing on both PVGP
weekends.  This year, with PVGP acting as their own sanctioning body (it had
been VSCCA doing the sanctioning & preventing most Spridgets & 60s-70s Brit
cars from entering), the entry list has grown at LOT in numbers and variety.
Should make for some great racing!  Please don't misunderstand me; I have
nothing against VSCCA and am very happy to see that we have a lot of the
VSCCA people returning to race, this year.

The races on 7/23 & 24 at Schenley Park are free to spectators, but, why not
bring your Spridget (or other Brit car) and enter it in the British Car Day
display on the Schenley Park Golf Course, overlooking the race course?  It's
always a great, relaxing time visiting fellow Brit car folks, while sipping
a beverage of your choice and watching the racing.

This year, I'll be tied-up much of the time with the Marque of the Year
(Porsche) festivities, but I'm pretty sure our youngest son will be entering
our '72 Midget in British Car Day.

 

Check out the PVGP website at www.pvgp.org and be prepared to spend a lot of
time looking at some fabulous photos of the cars and the event.  I sure do
hope a lot of you on Spridget Talk will be attending, this year.

 

Bud Osbourne 

From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Jul  3 09:59:21 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:59:21 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine
References: <em4f06dec4-a54b-4669-a91d-d05f1bf11600@Win7-101110>
Message-ID: <8764CF2EEB604833A2AD877641CFF12F@user8634b3d69b>

Alan,
Good news.  Glad it was resolved.  Well done for finding it..

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan" <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com>
To: "Jim Seippel" <aseippel at austin.rr.com>; "'Alan'" 
<alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Neil Anderson" 
<neilandcustom at gmail.com>; "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com>; 
<WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine


Hi all,
Lots of good suggestions about Misfiring on the frogeye. It turned out
to be a loose nut on the post in the dizzy that contains the the top
hat insulator.  When I got in there I thought that the points spring
seemed soft , Aha I though,  it was points  bounce at high revs  , I
found my magneto spanners and feelers (already set to 12 thou for
valves  ) from  where I left them the last time I touched an A series
engine about 10 years ago.   Made a start, the earth wire looked good -
it was insulated not the shoelace type , condensor looked new then I
went to undo the nut for the points and found it loose .  Tightened it
up and problem has gone away.  I will check the valve clearance too
tho' as the previous owner had never heard of a torque wrench -
virtually every nut and bolt was loose on the car when I got it ,
including suspension - I thought I had got most of them  - I hadn't
thought about looking in the engine or dizzy etc !
  Had a nice 30 mile drive in the English countryside to celebrate and a
couple of pints of Guinness  - weather was great  didn't even have  the
tonneau cover on - it drove well - now need to grease the front
suspension though !!

Cheers  all,  thanks for the advice .
Alan
Warwick UK
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 3:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Misfiring engine

Any thoughts on this ?  I have some ideas but will listen to others  !
Driving in torrential rain home  from Midget 50 ,  engine started
misfiring at around 3500 rpm.hot.
   I had fitted an RVC  neg earth rev counter prior to the event and
drove there on motorway at 60mph aprox  with two of us in the car and
soft top up. Snakeman Brad suggested removing last thing fitted prior
to the problem, the rev counter, so I did. With engine cold the misfire
is still there but at 4200 rpm with and without rev counter connected.
  Another suggestion is the condensor - I will replace that now -  but
my gut feeling is valve seat recession.
Any more ideas ?  TIA
Alan Warwick UK

From bkitterer at me.com  Sun Jul  3 10:34:54 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:34:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Differential
In-Reply-To: <B60A7B8B-3215-49FB-BABD-F92BDE8C316B@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.15.1309370405.22689.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<B60A7B8B-3215-49FB-BABD-F92BDE8C316B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F3B61562-7CF2-449D-B457-3097F636081B@me.com>

Yes

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 3, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

>       Does a 3.9:1 differential fit into a banjo axle from a 1959 bugeye without any modification? The stock differential is a 4.22:1
> _______________________________________________
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Sun Jul  3 11:50:01 2011
From: miniac7 at aol.com (Howie)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:50:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage PG will have plenty of Spridgets
 racing, this year
In-Reply-To: <004801cc399a$0df2bb20$29d83160$@hky.com>
References: <004801cc399a$0df2bb20$29d83160$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <D76B80A6-8D3C-43CD-BF2B-E99829883E29@aol.com>

I'll be there for the Schenley Park weekend from Thursday thru Sunday.... Hope
to see some of you there.

Howard Collins
'60 AH Bugeye Sprite
'68 Austin Mini

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:58 AM, "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> Just finished looking over the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix website
> (www.pvgp.org) and was pleased to note  that there is a whole big pile of
> Sprites & Spridgets on the race entry roster.  Porsche is the featured
> marque and there will also be a bunch of Porsches racing on both PVGP
> weekends.  This year, with PVGP acting as their own sanctioning body (it
had
> been VSCCA doing the sanctioning & preventing most Spridgets & 60s-70s Brit
> cars from entering), the entry list has grown at LOT in numbers and
variety.
> Should make for some great racing!  Please don't misunderstand me; I have
> nothing against VSCCA and am very happy to see that we have a lot of the
> VSCCA people returning to race, this year.
>
> The races on 7/23 & 24 at Schenley Park are free to spectators, but, why
not
> bring your Spridget (or other Brit car) and enter it in the British Car Day
> display on the Schenley Park Golf Course, overlooking the race course?
It's
> always a great, relaxing time visiting fellow Brit car folks, while sipping
> a beverage of your choice and watching the racing.
>
> This year, I'll be tied-up much of the time with the Marque of the Year
> (Porsche) festivities, but I'm pretty sure our youngest son will be
entering
> our '72 Midget in British Car Day.
>
>
>
> Check out the PVGP website at www.pvgp.org and be prepared to spend a lot
of
> time looking at some fabulous photos of the cars and the event.  I sure do
> hope a lot of you on Spridget Talk will be attending, this year.
>
>
>
> Bud Osbourne
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Jul  3 21:51:01 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 23:51:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget
Message-ID: <1915DD85-BF7D-4DE7-A523-C5875E836F5F@chartermi.net>

Happy 4th of July everyone!

I found the magic elixir for my whining diff problem - a new used 3.9 diff.  A
big thanks to lister John Deikis!  I also installed a Spridget muffler today
and now I can hear all of the gearbox noises and an assortment of rattles and
squeaks coming from everywhere.  LOL

Billy was right - just leave the new top down and drive it.  :-)

Rick

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Mon Jul  4 04:33:40 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:33:40 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone classic 2010 video SPRIDGETS
Message-ID: <CAN4UhUKpXuoySHNCw5+H=pB4nTfCsyCKDMhnbwz_+79wXNOFrQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have uploaded a video of our midget and sprite trip to the Silverstone
classic car meeting last year   (we will attend this year also)  Its the
biggest classic car meeting and races in the world !!!!

video is about 8 minutes long  so grab a beer / coffee  (or Tequila, Brad)
and enjoy

 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJhMDj34h4

There is some video of the Warwickshire UK section of Midget & Sprite club
 cars en route, a bit of racing and a load of photos of classic cars there
(thousands of cars - not so many photos) due to Frogeye MOT tes problem I
attended in the MGF but  the last photo of the slide show is a peach I think
- Women - know your place !

Link for the 2011 meeting.
http://silverstoneclassic.com/

Rgds
Alan
Warwick UK

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 08:13:20 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 07:13:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone classic 2010 video SPRIDGETS
In-Reply-To: <CAN4UhUKpXuoySHNCw5+H=pB4nTfCsyCKDMhnbwz_+79wXNOFrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKpXuoySHNCw5+H=pB4nTfCsyCKDMhnbwz_+79wXNOFrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAGt41u3ZWq-W1zsbd9PA5QrXdvSYy29-Gj-z240nep0fg@mail.gmail.com>

Alan,

Great video and stills...Thank You!

Herb

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Jul  4 11:33:52 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:33:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone classic 2010 video SPRIDGETS
In-Reply-To: <CAN4UhUKpXuoySHNCw5+H=pB4nTfCsyCKDMhnbwz_+79wXNOFrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKpXuoySHNCw5+H=pB4nTfCsyCKDMhnbwz_+79wXNOFrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E11F980.60804@wi.net>

Very very nice snaps Alan.  Thanks for sharing.  One of my goals is to 
get to UK  for a summer of car events, historical tours, and some fly 
fishing.  Shoot I need  year!  :-)

Regards,
Dave
Burlington WI

"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org


On 7/4/2011 5:33 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote:
> I have uploaded a video of our midget and sprite trip to the Silverstone
> classic car meeting last year   (we will attend this year also)  Its the
> biggest classic car meeting and races in the world !!!!
>
> video is about 8 minutes long  so grab a beer / coffee  (or Tequila, Brad)
> and enjoy
>
>   - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJhMDj34h4
>
> There is some video of the Warwickshire UK section of Midget&  Sprite club
>   cars en route, a bit of racing and a load of photos of classic cars there
> (thousands of cars - not so many photos) due to Frogeye MOT tes problem I
> attended in the MGF but  the last photo of the slide show is a peach I think
> - Women - know your place !
>
> Link for the 2011 meeting.
> http://silverstoneclassic.com/
>
> Rgds
> Alan
> Warwick UK

From theshoe5 at comcast.net  Mon Jul  4 11:40:04 2011
From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:40:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite in movie
Message-ID: <20C081919E4D4A74AF1C01C152839742@AlanPC>

Just thought I'd mention a really bad movie that has a Bugeye in it well as
Danny DeVito. It was the 1977 classic "The Van". This movie is so bad it's
good. It is available on Netflix and you can download it now. Well worth the
watch for any Sprite fan. The acting is so bad it's funny.
Alan
59 Sprite

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jul  4 12:00:39 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:00:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] alternator conversion
Message-ID: <006c01cc3a74$490bf700$db23e500$@net>

Anybody have the info on what Mitsubishi alternator is easily installed on a
sprite and the wiring change and bracket modifications needed.  Frank as
usual had sent me the info but I can no longer find it.  Miss himL and
hopefully someone else out there has a copy of his wisdom saved.

 

Leo

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jul  4 12:38:45 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 14:38:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] alternator conversion
In-Reply-To: <006c01cc3a74$490bf700$db23e500$@net>
References: <006c01cc3a74$490bf700$db23e500$@net>
Message-ID: <265CB66111B64ED8BA6E8EE66CD9700E@Home>

http://pdljmpr.tripod.com/techin.htm#Alternator

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul  4 12:39:31 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:39:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] alternator conversion
In-Reply-To: <006c01cc3a74$490bf700$db23e500$@net>
References: <006c01cc3a74$490bf700$db23e500$@net>
Message-ID: <73403938A89246D09E200FDC6F8A1E20@RickPC>

http://www.members.tripod.com/PDLJMPR/techin.htm#Electrical:


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] alternator conversion


> Anybody have the info on what Mitsubishi alternator is easily installed on 
> a
> sprite and the wiring change and bracket modifications needed.  Frank as
> usual had sent me the info but I can no longer find it.  Miss himL and
> hopefully someone else out there has a copy of his wisdom saved.
>
>
>
> Leo

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 13:06:17 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:06:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] alternator conversion
In-Reply-To: <006c01cc3a74$490bf700$db23e500$@net>
References: <006c01cc3a74$490bf700$db23e500$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx79RYgnGZYn95Db1nK_Eb+iW1mG1aUtWDLP7qGcfjkMpYQ@mail.gmail.com>

I used a GM alternator from Autozone.  It was about $30 and not hard to adapt.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul  4 15:02:28 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:02:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] White Trash on youtube
Message-ID: <256b5.453fa1b1.3b438464@aol.com>

What did they get black flagged for?
 
In a message dated 30/06/2011 21:22:23 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

Both the  other 2 got black flagged!

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul  4 15:05:23 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:05:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
Message-ID: <257af.608eb495.3b438513@aol.com>

I've had my Sprite about 10 years longer than I've had my wife.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 03/07/2011 04:45:28 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com  
writes:

My wife  and I have been together just a month or two longer than my '72
Midget and  I have been (29 years).

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 15:15:29 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:15:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - heading west from Washington on 7/15
Message-ID: <CABWjhcLfjL_S+bvGD0+fO0-fMpbJDDqrNQVFmqA6bYdtd0kMjw@mail.gmail.com>

At this time we have 4 cars leaving North Bend Washington at 07:00 on the
morning of July 15th.
We plan to run about 500 miles per day across I-90.
There are a couple other cars joining us along the way, if others want to
join up then lets get together.

Rick Bastedo

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Jul  4 15:48:35 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 21:48:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - heading west from Washington on 7/15
In-Reply-To: <827929764.389489.1309815807515.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <670335874.389513.1309816115821.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

I'm sure it will be too far out of your way, but I will be in Lewiston, Idaho on the 16th. US 195 runs pretty much straight to Lewiston from just west of Spokane, and US 12 goes directly to Missoula, Montana, where it joins up with I-90. Hwy 12 is a beautiful, twisty, road that was built with Spridgets in mind. It also runs along the Clearwater River through some of the most beautiful country in the world. Check your maps and, if you have the time, perhaps we could all get together for a drink or dinner.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Bastedo" <rbastedo at gmail.com>
To: "SPRIDGETS" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 2:15:29 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th - heading west from Washington on 7/15

At this time we have 4 cars leaving North Bend Washington at 07:00 on the
morning of July 15th.
We plan to run about 500 miles per day across I-90.
There are a couple other cars joining us along the way, if others want to
join up then lets get together.

Rick Bastedo
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jul  4 16:14:07 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:14:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
In-Reply-To: <257af.608eb495.3b438513@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CA37893F.31838%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I've had my Sprite about 10 years longer than I've had my wife.
>  
So far, my restoration has lasted longer than my first three marriages did.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 17:04:51 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:04:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] If You Can't Find Something Interesting ...
In-Reply-To: <19a5a1.78311ae8.3b4098f2@aol.com>
References: <19a5a1.78311ae8.3b4098f2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1309820691.73716.YahooMailRC@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  

________________________________
From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com"
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com


I guess I just need my wife to walk on the wings of
my car and I can make a 
decent video clip.  'Course you guys can't do that
because your cars don't have 
wings they have fenders..

On the other hand, we
could probably have somebody walk on our hoods where 
they'd fall right
through yours... :-)

David Booker

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  4 17:38:52 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I Hate My  Wife
Message-ID: <1309822732.36172.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

No, not me.  Same bugeye, same job and same wife for almost 35 yrs.  I'm
either very loyal or have no imagination.  But this eBayer isn't too thrilled
with his wife making him give up the Camaro:  http://tinyurl.com/6f6t4z3

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 17:43:15 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:43:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] If You Can't Find Something Interesting ...
In-Reply-To: <1309820691.73716.YahooMailRC@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <19a5a1.78311ae8.3b4098f2@aol.com>
	<1309820691.73716.YahooMailRC@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnup-QAbh7S-7HJ1tQKJwrOz0Wap2jVF38MGOE909tf8TiQ@mail.gmail.com>

I once had a spanner in my boot, but it kept raising blisters on my
ankle....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:04 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com"
> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
>
> I guess I just need my wife to walk on the wings of
> my car and I can make a
> decent video clip.  'Course you guys can't do that
> because your cars don't have
> wings they have fenders..
>
> On the other hand, we
> could probably have somebody walk on our hoods where
> they'd fall right
> through yours... :-)
>
> David Booker
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul  4 18:10:39 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:10:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I Hate My  Wife
In-Reply-To: <1309822732.36172.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1309822732.36172.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5F733426217B4FFAB1ED9AA95367721B@spider>

You are blessed!  Lucky!!  All you need is love . . . 

===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 4:39 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I Hate My Wife

No, not me.  Same bugeye, same job and same wife for almost 35 yrs.  I'm
either very loyal or have no imagination.  But this eBayer isn't too
thrilled
with his wife making him give up the Camaro:  http://tinyurl.com/6f6t4z3

Rick

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  4 19:26:32 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:26:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The 'Ghost Car'--Now you see it....
Message-ID: <017a01cc3ab2$930c0550$b9240ff0$@net>

..Now you don't!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011154/Worlds-remaining-Ghost-Car-h
eaded-auction--incredible-images-Plexiglas-Pontiac-expected-fetch-500-000.ht
ml

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul  4 19:40:08 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:40:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The 'Ghost Car'--Now you see it....
In-Reply-To: <017a01cc3ab2$930c0550$b9240ff0$@net>
References: <017a01cc3ab2$930c0550$b9240ff0$@net>
Message-ID: <4B91C47EC2A9414691800747FBBB0E81@spider>

http://tinyurl.com/3epcq3u
=====================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 6:27 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] The 'Ghost Car'--Now you see it....

..Now you don't!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011154/Worlds-remaining-Ghost-Car-h
eaded-auction--incredible-images-Plexiglas-Pontiac-expected-fetch-500-000.ht
ml_______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul  4 19:50:08 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:50:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  The 'Ghost Car'--Now you see it....
Message-ID: <CC9E1CAC95D54FE6A76205E3EFC2BCF2@spider>

better
http://tinyurl.com/3n5rbnl
=====================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 6:27 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] The 'Ghost Car'--Now you see it....

..Now you don't!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011154/Worlds-remaining-Ghost-Car-h
eaded-auction--incredible-images-Plexiglas-Pontiac-expected-fetch-500-000.ht
ml

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 22:13:47 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 21:13:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife......
In-Reply-To: <CA37893F.31838%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <257af.608eb495.3b438513@aol.com>
	<CA37893F.31838%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAE6EvHcwCi5YSNQ1uod6n5C5iL_szk_nqhsfWa4P4jnZg@mail.gmail.com>

It's the 'buz', Billy.
Herb

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > I've had my Sprite about 10 years longer than I've had my wife.
> >
> So far, my restoration has lasted longer than my first three marriages did.

From kmappley at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 06:34:49 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 07:34:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
Message-ID: <CANv6dsCSy9hpQVyEwkwiFtqdaKSrxEg87vz56SjC94q1CsuQAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bought a cheap set  of carpets for a Mk2 midget on E-bay. Decided the
quality wasn't good enough so I ordered a set from Moss. Never opened the
box till I was ready to fit them just assuming the huge price from Mo$$
meant I was getting quality approaching original. They are no better than
the cheap set and in many places far worse.
Is there anywhere I can get a set that is quality and that fits???

Kurt

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 08:17:00 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:17:00 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
Message-ID: <mailman.4.1309875438.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Using the set you have as a pattern, you may be able to get a local carpet store to make some out of commercial carpet. They can cut it and loop finish the sides. The only part that will require a bit of finesse is the rubber pad under the drivers pedals.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Kurt Appley
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
Sent: Jul 5, 2011 8:34 AM

Bought a cheap set  of carpets for a Mk2 midget on E-bay. Decided the
quality wasn't good enough so I ordered a set from Moss. Never opened the
box till I was ready to fit them just assuming the huge price from Mo$$
meant I was getting quality approaching original. They are no better than
the cheap set and in many places far worse.
Is there anywhere I can get a set that is quality and that fits???

Kurt
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Sent from me.

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 08:20:39 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:20:39 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
Message-ID: <mailman.5.1309875656.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

You could also look for a remnant from a quality low pile carpet, cut it yourself and just have the edges seemed or wrapped.
------Original Message------
From: Kurt Appley
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
Sent: Jul 5, 2011 8:34 AM

Bought a cheap set  of carpets for a Mk2 midget on E-bay. Decided the
quality wasn't good enough so I ordered a set from Moss. Never opened the
box till I was ready to fit them just assuming the huge price from Mo$$
meant I was getting quality approaching original. They are no better than
the cheap set and in many places far worse.
Is there anywhere I can get a set that is quality and that fits???

Kurt
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Sent from me.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 08:23:17 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 09:23:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
In-Reply-To: <20110705141840.49F1D1878BE@autox.team.net>
References: <20110705141840.49F1D1878BE@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hw+R8HgLW0c5EC4__jLGLyNamUTkBmhzpae2ospJK6bBA@mail.gmail.com>

OK, who is going to channel Frank this time and tell him to get some
decent marine carpeting along with the proper 3M spray adhesive ad
some razor-knife blades and do it right? Not me!
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 08:44:29 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 09:44:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
In-Reply-To: <CANv6dsCSy9hpQVyEwkwiFtqdaKSrxEg87vz56SjC94q1CsuQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANv6dsCSy9hpQVyEwkwiFtqdaKSrxEg87vz56SjC94q1CsuQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hwtDUCLy-xAT7jr82J5mtFAf8WHwuDN6FVpPLk0j-7YHw@mail.gmail.com>

It is also a good opportunity to put some heat insulation under the
carpet, especially under the accelerator, especially if you have a
larger-than-stock pipe right under that heel... Ask me why I think so
;-)
David L

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul  5 11:09:03 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:09:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] If You Can't Find Something Interesting ...
Message-ID: <11405.7a973ad2.3b449f2f@aol.com>

Only if they were wearing high heels?
 
In a message dated 05/07/2011 00:04:53 GMT Daylight Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

 
  
____________________________________
 From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com"  _WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com_ 
(mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) 


I guess I just need my wife to walk on the wings of my car and I can make  
a decent video clip.  'Course you guys can't do that because your cars  
don't have wings they have fenders..
 
 


On the other hand, we could probably have  somebody walk on our hoods where 
they'd fall right through yours...  :-)

David  Booker

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Tue Jul  5 11:39:36 2011
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:39:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
In-Reply-To: <CANv6dsCSy9hpQVyEwkwiFtqdaKSrxEg87vz56SjC94q1CsuQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANv6dsCSy9hpQVyEwkwiFtqdaKSrxEg87vz56SjC94q1CsuQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003801cc3b3a$82cc22a0$886467e0$@qwest.net>

Heritage Upholstery & Trim
http://www.heritagetrim.com/

Worked for me
Herb Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kurt Appley
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:35 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set

Bought a cheap set  of carpets for a Mk2 midget on E-bay. Decided the
quality wasn't good enough so I ordered a set from Moss. Never opened the
box till I was ready to fit them just assuming the huge price from Mo$$
meant I was getting quality approaching original. They are no better than
the cheap set and in many places far worse.
Is there anywhere I can get a set that is quality and that fits???

Kurt
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From kmappley at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 12:17:39 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:17:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Quality Carpet Set
Message-ID: <CANv6dsBNBotw2jXA=vUrYBgUr8ZJzbOvcUnyJ_jRxyfsxi2Mkw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the leads to AH Spares and Heritage Trim. Looks like quality is
still available and I will be checking these out.
As to avoiding the dreaded hot foot David mentioned I'm thinking a heat
shield on the exhaust pipe as Japanese vehicles have had forever. Main
problem with them is attaching them so uneven expansion can be compensated
for without getting a rattle.
Kurt.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 12:26:22 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 11:26:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone have a decent bugeye grille for sale
Message-ID: <CABWjhcL8RXyx8YAPXrT=G1JdT6d0aoD-qv8s3gEvoj=LxELB4g@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking for a bugeye grille.
I have one that is dented and rusty, am considering blasting it, filling it
and painting it.
In the meanwhile I checked AH Spares and they have a nice triple plated
grille that is out of stock.
Do any of you have, or know about a bugeye grille in decent shape for sale?
Money is an object, so please don't tell me about $400 grilles I can order
from the usual suspects as I already know about them.
Looking for a good used one that can be had for a fair price.
Thanks

Rick Bastedo
Snoqualmie
in North Western Washington State

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jul  5 13:03:02 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:03:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
In-Reply-To: <003801cc3b3a$82cc22a0$886467e0$@qwest.net>
References: <CANv6dsCSy9hpQVyEwkwiFtqdaKSrxEg87vz56SjC94q1CsuQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<003801cc3b3a$82cc22a0$886467e0$@qwest.net>
Message-ID: <7B75BF0C-267F-4488-93B8-40207D1B0406@comcast.net>

Maybe they have changed but they were NOT helpful and WAAAAY over the top
expensive.  Before I knew any better I had purchased the seat kit and carpet
kit.  I had to badger them for help and that only got me meager results.  See
if OSJI does interiors for Bugeyes..

Lester


On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Herbert Miller wrote:

> Heritage Upholstery & Trim
> http://www.heritagetrim.com/
>
> Worked for me
> Herb Miller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kurt Appley
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:35 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
>
> Bought a cheap set  of carpets for a Mk2 midget on E-bay. Decided the
> quality wasn't good enough so I ordered a set from Moss. Never opened the
> box till I was ready to fit them just assuming the huge price from Mo$$
> meant I was getting quality approaching original. They are no better than
> the cheap set and in many places far worse.
> Is there anywhere I can get a set that is quality and that fits???
>
> Kurt
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  5 14:06:01 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:06:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
Message-ID: <021501cc3b4e$f72cd4a0$e5867de0$@net>

Today, I received the following e-mail from Pam's niece.  Since it deals
with the second most popular topic on the Spridget List, I thought I would
share it with you.  Remember, this is California.

 

Buster

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------

 

Looking for some feedback on this........ I will be going on the Dave
Congalton Show on KVEC on Monday the 11th of July @ 5 pm to talk about this.
Tune in!!  920 AM

 Many years ago I applied to the DMV for a personalized license plate, which
I received. I won't tell you yet what it said.A few yrs later I married and
changed the plate to a different 
personalized name, my married name, and let the first plate expire.  For
many reasons, I recently decided I wanted my old personalized plates back
again. I went to DMV and was told if I wanted to renew them it would be the
personal plate fee times how many years since it had expired. It worked out
to be around $450.00!!

An alternative option was to apply for the plates as a new request, this
would only cost me $49.

I applied for GUN LOVE . There is a place to indicate what the plate name
means and of course I stated " I love guns".  Much to my shock and dismay,
the letter I received stated that my request had been reviewed to see if the
configuration was "appropriate to manufacture".

   "Unfortunately, the DMV is unable to approve the requested plate
configuration for the following reason(s):
 
   1. Per California Vehicle Code, Section 5105, the department may refuse
any combination of letters and numbers that may be considered offensive,
which could be misleading, or in conflict with any existing license plate
series issued"  

   The Special Processing Unit Manager, A. Correa, went on to say :

    I am sure you can appreciate how difficult it is to balance an
individual's constitutional right to free speech and expression, while
protecting the sensibilities of all segments of our population.  Please
understand that this is a very difficult area to regulate and not everyone
feels the same way on any given subject.

   I am offered an opportunity to submit a letter of explanation for further
review, which I have drafted and will be submitting.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 15:50:53 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:50:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Only thirteen days to go!!
Message-ID: <CAJgjnur8W_h+Yaz6pq+CUWRYtxXQAidcrUtBNmpmkN8rxKnTyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

There are only 13 days to go before the big party at Elkhart Lake!!  No more
advanced registrations will be taken after this coming Sunday (July 10th).
Since it was necessary to give Road America and the various caterers some
pretty firm numbers by this coming weekend, if you haven't signed up for
meals, Track Tour, banquet by Sunday, we will be unable to guarantee their
availability for last minute registrations.

Do recall that there will be no regalia available for purchase at the event.
Some really nice regalia is available from the Sprite-Midget Club
store at: <http://www.cafepress.com/spridget/>
<http://www.cafepress.com/spridget/>

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
"50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event"
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  5 15:57:46 2011
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:57:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Re Wheels and tires.
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinQ7k8NEGKuddgXHVcdTy0fcu3kZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTimZYTdaPWHiCgxJadtferypX3JhhA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BANLkTinQ7k8NEGKuddgXHVcdTy0fcu3kZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL117-W10CD5C721086283C3B0AA4C25F0@phx.gbl>

Here's a good reason Derf,
All of us Spridget owners would love to find out if the 14 or 15 inch Miata
wheels would fit a Spridget.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:16:30 -0500
> From: derf247 at gmail.com
> To: kmappley at gmail.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re Re Re Wheels and tires.
>
> I've wondered about finding some shot wires with good centers and
> turning down the centers and making adapters to 4X100.
> Then, some of those Miata forged BBS 14X6 which weigh ~10lbs each would be
nice.
> There's a guy selling a set of those wheels in a nearby town for $200.
>  I need to make up an excuse to go buy them.
> _______________________________________________

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 16:06:47 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:06:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re Re Wheels and tires.
In-Reply-To: <COL117-W10CD5C721086283C3B0AA4C25F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BANLkTimZYTdaPWHiCgxJadtferypX3JhhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinQ7k8NEGKuddgXHVcdTy0fcu3kZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL117-W10CD5C721086283C3B0AA4C25F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78csZCcB-rdq8mprn7PoTkpfinZnHuTyYdPqhyAfdYeMw@mail.gmail.com>

I bought them, but have no RWA disc wheel Spridget to fit them on at present.
Adapters might work as they are 45mm offset.

4X4" is only about 1.6mm larger than 4X100mm.  Offset boring to 7/16"
studs should be adequate to make up the difference.

What's the standard Spridget disc wheel offset?

From homehandy at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul  5 16:20:27 2011
From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:20:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set
References: <CANv6dsCSy9hpQVyEwkwiFtqdaKSrxEg87vz56SjC94q1CsuQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACJx3hwtDUCLy-xAT7jr82J5mtFAf8WHwuDN6FVpPLk0j-7YHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B1356B931DD74D8CA2F745C29CFCF005@WOODSTOCK>

If you have a RHD you don't need insulation under you heel.

Jeff
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Kurt Appley" <kmappley at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quality Carpet Set


> It is also a good opportunity to put some heat insulation under the
> carpet, especially under the accelerator, especially if you have a
> larger-than-stock pipe right under that heel... Ask me why I think so
> ;-)
> David L
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From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jul  5 17:30:16 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:30:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Only thirteen days to go!!
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnur8W_h+Yaz6pq+CUWRYtxXQAidcrUtBNmpmkN8rxKnTyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJgjnur8W_h+Yaz6pq+CUWRYtxXQAidcrUtBNmpmkN8rxKnTyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1D0CC8C5-6170-44C5-A724-10C1769D1E35@ado13.com>

We are going to be there for the festivities the preceding weekend so Only 5
more days before we head to WI from CA.

BUGIIIS is running great and is as clean as it is going to be.

On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Spridgeteers,
>
> There are only 13 days to go before the big party at Elkhart Lake!!  No
more

From ggilomen at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 17:43:40 2011
From: ggilomen at gmail.com (Gordon Gilomen)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:43:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye rear spring wedges
Message-ID: <CAJwQjMyrxTYkwP9Wx4cBeg8OoWKhuqz9ozQ7w2jaafpyPubYVg@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking for a pair of bugeye rear spring lowering wedges.
Winners Circle no longer has them.  Any of you have a pair you can let
go of.

From pdx.pete at frontier.com  Tue Jul  5 18:26:18 2011
From: pdx.pete at frontier.com (Peter Shull)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:26:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <1752752086.398904.1309911288209.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1583009923.398985.1309911978527.JavaMail.root@cl03-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

"I am sure you can appreciate how difficult it is to balance an
individual's constitutional right to free speech and expression, while
protecting the sensibilities of all segments of our population."

Where to start with this one? Someone whom I don't know is telling me that I can appreciate how hard is to balance yada, yada, yada??? No, I can't appreciate, primarily because I can't fathom the idea of attempting to do so. Balance the check book, maybe, but certainly no this.

And, ALL segments? ALL? C'mon. How big is a segment, anyways, Ten people? Thirty? Given the population of the State of California there's gotta a sizable number of people, segment-wise who whine about everything and an even larger group of folks that don't give a rat's a$$ one way or another.

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 18:26:56 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:26:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <021501cc3b4e$f72cd4a0$e5867de0$@net>
References: <021501cc3b4e$f72cd4a0$e5867de0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAJKrNeQQ=qjXgY_mwTS++xWUvASGbt4M8wtitfj7xjaSmZr_Lw@mail.gmail.com>

Buster,

The letter should say something to the affect that the Second Amendment to
the Constitution is there to to make certain the Government does mess with
the rest of them.  I wonder what they would say if you wanted the plate FRE
SPCH.

Welcome to the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

Cheers,

Curt
With the original CA vanity plate HEALEY - I'm certain this plate would
upset plenty of MGA and Midget owners out there who might consider this
plate "offensive."

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Today, I received the following e-mail from Pam's niece.  Since it deals
> with the second most popular topic on the Spridget List, I thought I would
> share it with you.  Remember, this is California.
>
>
>
> Buster
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------
>
>
>
> Looking for some feedback on this........ I will be going on the Dave
> Congalton Show on KVEC on Monday the 11th of July @ 5 pm to talk about
> this.
> Tune in!!  920 AM
>
>  Many years ago I applied to the DMV for a personalized license plate,
> which
> I received. I won't tell you yet what it said.A few yrs later I married and
> changed the plate to a different
> personalized name, my married name, and let the first plate expire.  For
> many reasons, I recently decided I wanted my old personalized plates back
> again. I went to DMV and was told if I wanted to renew them it would be the
> personal plate fee times how many years since it had expired. It worked out
> to be around $450.00!!
>
> An alternative option was to apply for the plates as a new request, this
> would only cost me $49.
>
> I applied for GUN LOVE . There is a place to indicate what the plate name
> means and of course I stated " I love guns".  Much to my shock and dismay,
> the letter I received stated that my request had been reviewed to see if
> the
> configuration was "appropriate to manufacture".
>
>   "Unfortunately, the DMV is unable to approve the requested plate
> configuration for the following reason(s):
>
>   1. Per California Vehicle Code, Section 5105, the department may refuse
> any combination of letters and numbers that may be considered offensive,
> which could be misleading, or in conflict with any existing license plate
> series issued"
>
>   The Special Processing Unit Manager, A. Correa, went on to say :
>
>    I am sure you can appreciate how difficult it is to balance an
> individual's constitutional right to free speech and expression, while
> protecting the sensibilities of all segments of our population.  Please
> understand that this is a very difficult area to regulate and not everyone
> feels the same way on any given subject.
>
>   I am offered an opportunity to submit a letter of explanation for further
> review, which I have drafted and will be submitting.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Jul  5 19:53:09 2011
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 18:53:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>

This is amazing.
> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>
> 3-D PRINTER
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>
Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

From clarici at verizon.net  Tue Jul  5 20:35:57 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:35:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>

Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with it.


Must be a pricey machine.

Frankie

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC

This is amazing.
> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>
> 3-D PRINTER
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>
Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
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From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Jul  5 20:45:19 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:45:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
Message-ID: <8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>

Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than buying the printer.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net> wrote:

> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with it.
> 
> 
> Must be a pricey machine.
> 
> Frankie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
> 
> This is amazing.
>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>> 
>> 3-D PRINTER
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>> 
> Bob Kitterer
> 
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 21:21:17 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:21:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAEV5ywMoKe0P2fQSONOG0=8FTkFiUXj5+84FCsHC6V04Q@mail.gmail.com>

My son, Dustin, has been using these for a fairly long time as a computer
hardware design engineer.  I've seen s number of the 'board' designs he's
developed.  Like someone said...."amazing".
Herb



On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

> This is amazing.
> > You have to watch this.  It s really, really cool.
> >
> > 3-D PRINTER
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
> >
> Bob Kitterer

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Jul  5 21:24:55 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 22:24:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye For Sale Kentucky
Message-ID: <6D63961F39FF44AD99129B32906656E2@Dell9200>

http://www.bluegrassclub.com/index.php/cars-for-sale

I received this link , from the Bluegrass Healey Club, for a car for sale, 
sad story of the owner passing away shortly after finishing the project. 
Car looks nice, NFI

Mark
Nashville 

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jul  5 21:32:27 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:32:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
Message-ID: <5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>

I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot of
business. He does taillights and trim pieces.

Larry Miller

On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than buying
the printer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
wrote:
>
>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
it.
>>
>>
>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>
>> Frankie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>> To: Spridgets
>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>>
>> This is amazing.
>>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>>>
>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>
>> Bob Kitterer
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From homehandy at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul  5 21:33:55 2011
From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 22:33:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye rear spring wedges
References: <CAJwQjMyrxTYkwP9Wx4cBeg8OoWKhuqz9ozQ7w2jaafpyPubYVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A358C5933A0249D09C914685FC54052D@WOODSTOCK>

Gordon,
how thick do you want the the back elevation to be??
Send info to homehandy at sbcglobal.net

Jeff Kelly
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Gilomen" <ggilomen at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:43 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye rear spring wedges


>I am looking for a pair of bugeye rear spring lowering wedges.
> Winners Circle no longer has them.  Any of you have a pair you can let
> go of.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Jul  5 22:20:48 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:20:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>

Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part and
then create a mold from it?

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
To: Kitterer Bob
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC

I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot of
business. He does taillights and trim pieces.

Larry Miller

On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
buying
the printer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
wrote:
>
>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
it.
>>
>>
>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>
>> Frankie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>> To: Spridgets
>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>>
>> This is amazing.
>>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>>>
>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>
>> Bob Kitterer
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
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From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jul  5 22:24:16 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 21:24:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
Message-ID: <17EB698B-B959-4DB0-84FF-8D6D6FDBA3EE@ado13.com>

Yes.

On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Leo wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
and
> then create a mold from it?
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: Kitterer Bob
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>
> I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot
of
> business. He does taillights and trim pieces.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
>> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
> buying
> the printer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>>
>>> Frankie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>>> To: Spridgets
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>>>
>>> This is amazing.
>>>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>>>>
>>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>>
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>>
>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Jul  5 22:52:27 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:52:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <17EB698B-B959-4DB0-84FF-8D6D6FDBA3EE@ado13.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
	<17EB698B-B959-4DB0-84FF-8D6D6FDBA3EE@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <001b01cc3b98$816bdfa0$84439ee0$@net>

But if you have a part for it to scan and print don't you already have the
part to make a mold from?

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry & Sandi Miller [mailto:millerls at ado13.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:24 PM
To: Leo
Cc: 'Kitterer Bob'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC

Yes.

On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Leo wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
and
> then create a mold from it?
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi
Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: Kitterer Bob
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>
> I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot
of
> business. He does taillights and trim pieces.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
>> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
> buying
> the printer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>>
>>> Frankie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>>> To: Spridgets
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>>>
>>> This is amazing.
>>>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>>>>
>>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>>
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>>
>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Jul  5 22:55:45 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:55:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <17EB698B-B959-4DB0-84FF-8D6D6FDBA3EE@ado13.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
	<17EB698B-B959-4DB0-84FF-8D6D6FDBA3EE@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <001c01cc3b98$f9301f10$eb905d30$@net>

After thinking longer about its use would it be safe to say that it is used
to create a part that can be used to make a mold of a non machineable part?

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry & Sandi Miller [mailto:millerls at ado13.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:24 PM
To: Leo
Cc: 'Kitterer Bob'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC

Yes.

On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Leo wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
and
> then create a mold from it?
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi
Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: Kitterer Bob
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>
> I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot
of
> business. He does taillights and trim pieces.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
>> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
> buying
> the printer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>>
>>> Frankie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>>> To: Spridgets
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>>>
>>> This is amazing.
>>>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>>>>
>>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>>
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>>
>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 00:40:00 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:40:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAE6v6+JNKceLc1DNdDMFb-Gvgb3NPFX+0Lkvro5XWDTDg@mail.gmail.com>

In my son's use, he designs a circuit board with all the necessary
components using a 3-D CAD type program [more big bucks].  The printer
prints, or 'builds', a duplicate based on specifications provided.

Believe me, what comes out if nothing short of amazing.

Herb



On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
> andific
> then create a mold from it?
>
> Leo

From cathe125 at suddenlink.net  Wed Jul  6 03:20:35 2011
From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 04:20:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <CAEFJhAE6v6+JNKceLc1DNdDMFb-Gvgb3NPFX+0Lkvro5XWDTDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
	<CAEFJhAE6v6+JNKceLc1DNdDMFb-Gvgb3NPFX+0Lkvro5XWDTDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002001cc3bbd$f66b0bd0$e3412370$@net>

So the part printed actually is a non working part but allow a visual model
to make sure everything fits as planned before production of a REAL board is
started right?

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:40 AM
To: Leo
Cc: Spridgets; Kitterer Bob
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC

In my son's use, he designs a circuit board with all the necessary
components using a 3-D CAD type program [more big bucks].  The printer
prints, or 'builds', a duplicate based on specifications provided.

Believe me, what comes out if nothing short of amazing.

Herb



On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
> andific
> then create a mold from it?
>
> Leo
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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Wed Jul  6 06:12:45 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:12:45 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
Message-ID: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>

So if I was a Californian yank  could I apply for a Licence plate  GUNS KILL
,
 and if I got it, what might happen to my car ?
 I could guess what might happen in Texas ! !

Alan Warwick UK

Where our personalised reg plates are generally limited to a max of 3
letters  and 3 numbers i.e.  as previously issued to vehicles between aprox
1910 and 1990  (guesstimate) and only if it is available , rude words like
SEX  not allowed !

From bkitterer at me.com  Wed Jul  6 06:30:17 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:30:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
Message-ID: <F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>

Leo,

That is a major importance!  If you are designing a very complex system and want to be sure that not only all the parts fit and work but that it can also be assembled.  You can better evaluate how the machining will be done.  All of this at a fraction of the cost standard prototyping.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part and
> then create a mold from it?
> 
> Leo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: Kitterer Bob
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
> 
> I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot of
> business. He does taillights and trim pieces.
> 
> Larry Miller
> 
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
> 
>> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
> buying
> the printer.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
> it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>> 
>>> Frankie
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>>> To: Spridgets
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>>> 
>>> This is amazing.
>>>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>>>> 
>>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>> 
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>> 
>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Wed Jul  6 06:47:52 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 07:47:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
	<F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>
Message-ID: <002d01cc3bda$eb87da00$c2978e00$@net>

I got it :)

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: Kitterer Bob [mailto:bkitterer at me.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:30 AM
To: Leo
Cc: Larry & Sandi Miller; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC

Leo,

That is a major importance!  If you are designing a very complex system and
want to be sure that not only all the parts fit and work but that it can
also be assembled.  You can better evaluate how the machining will be done.
All of this at a fraction of the cost standard prototyping.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
and
> then create a mold from it?
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi
Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: Kitterer Bob
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>
> I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot
of
> business. He does taillights and trim pieces.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
>> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
> buying
> the printer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>>
>>> Frankie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>>> To: Spridgets
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>>>
>>> This is amazing.
>>>> You have to watch this.  Its really, really cool.
>>>>
>>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>>
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>>
>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 06:49:23 2011
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 05:49:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye rear spring wedges
In-Reply-To: <CAJwQjMyrxTYkwP9Wx4cBeg8OoWKhuqz9ozQ7w2jaafpyPubYVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1309956563.5007.YahooMailClassic@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I made my own, but later found they are available off the shelf, you can
google "Leaf spring wedges". Here is a good reply to your question from the
Spritespot;
http://www.spritespot.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4537
BTW, you don't really need a full wedge. Cut some pieces of strip stock (1/2"
wide) and drill 13/32" holes on 2-3/8" centerlines and place under the spring.
Eliminate the U-Bolt, which probably won't be long enough anyway, and use a
heavy bar across the top of the spring with grade 8 bolts.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 7/5/11, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye rear spring wedges
To: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 7:43 PM

I am looking for a pair of bugeye rear spring lowering wedges.
Winners Circle no longer has them.  Any of you have a pair you can let
go of.
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 06:52:45 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 07:52:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
	<F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r-ORvpqMreKM8Ywadyh8kXTKuwJnfpSnpMxyo8bzm30QQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, that just doesn't seem right. I don't see how it can get the interior
dimensions, from just holding a "scan gun" over the top of it.
Watch the video closely, and look at the adjustment gear on the original, vs
the "plastic" tool. They are different. If it reproduces EXACTLY, why, is it
different?

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> Leo,
>
> That is a major importance!  If you are designing a very complex system and
> want to be sure that not only all the parts fit and work but that it can
> also be assembled.  You can better evaluate how the machining will be done.
>  All of this at a fraction of the cost standard prototyping.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:
>
> > Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> > except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
> and
> > then create a mold from it?
> >
> > Leo
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi
> Miller
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > To: Kitterer Bob
> > Cc: Spridgets
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
> >
> > I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot
> of
> > business. He does taillights and trim pieces.
> >
> > Larry Miller
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
> >
> >> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
> > buying
> > the printer.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does
> with
> > it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Must be a pricey machine.
> >>>
> >>> Frankie
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> >>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
> >>> To: Spridgets
> >>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
> >>>
> >>> This is amazing.
> >>>> You have to watch this.  It s really, really cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3-D PRINTER
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
> >>>>
> >>> Bob Kitterer
> >>>
> >>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> >>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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> > _______________________________________________
> >
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 07:27:05 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:27:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuq_4Uio0QsBXR-1KzEvoW-u8tDVyW7dtVojvHeSABHyWg@mail.gmail.com>

So in the UK if I wanted my personalized plates to reflect my attachment to
my donkey I would be forbidden ASS 123?    ;-)

It's so nice to know that someone else is looking after my morals.....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:12 AM, EASTJONES alan <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com
> wrote:

> So if I was a Californian yank  could I apply for a Licence plate  GUNS
> KILL
> ,
>  and if I got it, what might happen to my car ?
>  I could guess what might happen in Texas ! !
>
> Alan Warwick UK
>
> Where our personalised reg plates are generally limited to a max of 3
> letters  and 3 numbers i.e.  as previously issued to vehicles between aprox
> 1910 and 1990  (guesstimate) and only if it is available , rude words like
> SEX  not allowed !
> _______________________________________________
>
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Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 07:30:36 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:30:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
	<F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoa+fJ+WsNJMBvm9=F2htg2+JdKiYSenkaHG3+GhiJKHw@mail.gmail.com>

One additional benefit...  The scan and the prototype from the printer can
then be programmed into CAD and ported to machines that will manufacture the
part. Think Skunk Works......    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> Leo,
>
> That is a major importance!  If you are designing a very complex system and
> want to be sure that not only all the parts fit and work but that it can
> also be assembled.  You can better evaluate how the machining will be done.
>  All of this at a fraction of the cost standard prototyping.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:
>
> > Explain to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> > except for development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
> and
> > then create a mold from it?
> >
> > Leo
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi
> Miller
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> > To: Kitterer Bob
> > Cc: Spridgets
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
> >
> > I have a friend that has one of the printers and is starting to get a lot
> of
> > business. He does taillights and trim pieces.
> >
> > Larry Miller
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
> >
> >> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather than
> > buying
> > the printer.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jay Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does
> with
> > it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Must be a pricey machine.
> >>>
> >>> Frankie
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> >>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
> >>> To: Spridgets
> >>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
> >>>
> >>> This is amazing.
> >>>> You have to watch this.  It s really, really cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3-D PRINTER
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
> >>>>
> >>> Bob Kitterer
> >>>
> >>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> >>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/clarici at verizon.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>
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>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Jul  6 07:37:06 2011
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:37:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <021501cc3b4e$f72cd4a0$e5867de0$@net>
References: <021501cc3b4e$f72cd4a0$e5867de0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP6XFG6_JWZDwOzBUwsLVR-qqwMAeuH9Rqmf+2nmJFj0nA@mail.gmail.com>

Let me guess..... Pro Life,Pro Choice, or variations thereof are allowed?
 I'm not sure there is any topic as polarizing as abortion.




On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Today, I received the following e-mail from Pam's niece.  Since it deals
> with the second most popular topic on the Spridget List, I thought I would
> share it with you.  Remember, this is California.
>
>
>
> Buster
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------
>
>
>
> Looking for some feedback on this........ I will be going on the Dave
> Congalton Show on KVEC on Monday the 11th of July @ 5 pm to talk about
> this.
> Tune in!!  920 AM
>
>  Many years ago I applied to the DMV for a personalized license plate,
> which
> I received. I won't tell you yet what it said.A few yrs later I married and
> changed the plate to a different
> personalized name, my married name, and let the first plate expire.  For
> many reasons, I recently decided I wanted my old personalized plates back
> again. I went to DMV and was told if I wanted to renew them it would be the
> personal plate fee times how many years since it had expired. It worked out
> to be around $450.00!!
>
> An alternative option was to apply for the plates as a new request, this
> would only cost me $49.
>
> I applied for GUN LOVE . There is a place to indicate what the plate name
> means and of course I stated " I love guns".  Much to my shock and dismay,
> the letter I received stated that my request had been reviewed to see if
> the
> configuration was "appropriate to manufacture".
>
>   "Unfortunately, the DMV is unable to approve the requested plate
> configuration for the following reason(s):
>
>   1. Per California Vehicle Code, Section 5105, the department may refuse
> any combination of letters and numbers that may be considered offensive,
> which could be misleading, or in conflict with any existing license plate
> series issued"
>
>   The Special Processing Unit Manager, A. Correa, went on to say :
>
>    I am sure you can appreciate how difficult it is to balance an
> individual's constitutional right to free speech and expression, while
> protecting the sensibilities of all segments of our population.  Please
> understand that this is a very difficult area to regulate and not everyone
> feels the same way on any given subject.
>
>   I am offered an opportunity to submit a letter of explanation for further
> review, which I have drafted and will be submitting.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jul  6 08:21:19 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:21:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28C692132DA1478CB34ADDD2A3807D62@Home>

A motorcycle guy we know named Steve Comer wanted a name plate - Comer - and 
NY state wouldn't give it too him.  At least it wasn't Ejaculatorio.

Michael Rowe 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jul  6 08:23:42 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:23:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
Message-ID: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>

Well, this must be a new electrical problem.  

The Midget died at a stop sign with no electricity to the engine circuit; the lighting circuit was fine - a loose wire somewhere and my testing equipment was all in the camper.  So my wife picked me up and we came back with a tow bar, but the problem was gone and  and I drove the car home.  At that point, I couldn't find the problem and I knew it will die again at the most inconvenient time.  Several days later, the tachometer and turn signals quit, but the car continued to run and we got home - beginner's luck.

After some wiggling and poking, it developed that some fuses had lost contact in their holders, probably because quiet a lot of  oil spilled out of a loose cap on my spare oil bottle kept just above.  So the problem was oily fuses.  

Is that a first?

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From bkitterer at me.com  Wed Jul  6 08:56:42 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:56:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r-ORvpqMreKM8Ywadyh8kXTKuwJnfpSnpMxyo8bzm30QQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
	<5EFECBED-02E6-4398-93E2-528098F9A3F0@ado13.com>
	<001a01cc3b94$17d07dc0$47717940$@net>
	<F3230AB2-41CC-4D3F-B4B9-33606A7D5704@me.com>
	<CABQj3r-ORvpqMreKM8Ywadyh8kXTKuwJnfpSnpMxyo8bzm30QQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6ECD7629-D273-429C-B8CB-13C95B83BD3D@me.com>

There are two basic usages for this printer.  First is what Jay Leno showed where you have a part that is broken and no longer available.  In which case you scan the part and the printer makes a complete part that can either be a mold or export the CAD file for fabrication.  It is a 3D scan that gets converted to CAD file or layer sections.  The finished parts are operational.

The other use is where there  is no part but just a CAD file for a new part or assembly which you can now test as presented in my last post. 

I think it is cool.  Wish it had been around at a reasonable cost when I was working.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> Sorry, that just doesn't seem right. I don't see how it can get the interior dimensions, from just holding a "scan gun" over the top of it.
> Watch the video closely, and look at the adjustment gear on the original, vs the "plastic" tool. They are different. If it reproduces EXACTLY, why, is it different?

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jul  6 09:02:48 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:02:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
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At 09:23 AM 7/6/2011, Michael Rowe wrote:

>After some wiggling and poking, it developed that some fuses had 
>lost contact in their holders, probably because quiet a lot of  oil 
>spilled out of a loose cap on my spare oil bottle kept just 
>above.  So the problem was oily fuses.
>
>Is that a first?

More importantly,..... is that the last......?


lesson learned?

Peter C 

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Wed Jul  6 09:09:00 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:09:00 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
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	<CAJgjnuq_4Uio0QsBXR-1KzEvoW-u8tDVyW7dtVojvHeSABHyWg@mail.gmail.com>
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You are in luck, sort of Jim , ASS 4M  is available, If you have #12705
available  or *20,435.90 US dollars *
**
mind you an Ass in the UK is a kind of donkey , probably wouldn't get ARS
though !
**
http://www.nationalnumbers.co.uk/options/ASS_4M.htm

Rgds
Alan Warwick UK

MDGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGGMGMGGMGM


On 6 July 2011 14:27, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> So in the UK if I wanted my personalized plates to reflect my attachment to
> my donkey I would be forbidden ASS 123?    ;-)
>
> It's so nice to know that someone else is looking after my morals.....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>   On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:12 AM, EASTJONES alan <
> alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>  So if I was a Californian yank  could I apply for a Licence plate  GUNS
>> KILL
>> ,
>>  and if I got it, what might happen to my car ?
>>  I could guess what might happen in Texas ! !
>>
>> Alan Warwick UK
>>
>> Where our personalised reg plates are generally limited to a max of 3
>> letters  and 3 numbers i.e.  as previously issued to vehicles between
>> aprox
>> 1910 and 1990  (guesstimate) and only if it is available , rude words like
>> SEX  not allowed !
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
> Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
> Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
> Info & Registration here:
> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jul  6 09:10:03 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:10:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
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Lemme see here...

Oily aircleaner..

Oily brakes..

Oily capacitors..

Oily drums..

Oily e-Brake...

Oily gears...

Oily heater lines..

Oily intake...

Oily jack...

Oily keepers...

Oily lock tabs..

Oily manifold...


Yup.. looks like you're a winner!

Lester


On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> Well, this must be a new electrical problem.
>
> The Midget died at a stop sign with no electricity to the engine circuit;
the lighting circuit was fine - a loose wire somewhere and my testing
equipment was all in the camper.  So my wife picked me up and we came back
with a tow bar, but the problem was gone and  and I drove the car home.  At
that point, I couldn't find the problem and I knew it will die again at the
most inconvenient time.  Several days later, the tachometer and turn signals
quit, but the car continued to run and we got home - beginner's luck.
>
> After some wiggling and poking, it developed that some fuses had lost
contact in their holders, probably because quiet a lot of  oil spilled out of
a loose cap on my spare oil bottle kept just above.  So the problem was oily
fuses.
>
> Is that a first?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________
>
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 09:12:10 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:12:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - MK2 Sprite only $16,995!!! (nfi)
Message-ID: <CABWjhcKXBCi_4wz2eX2RZrqRiT-P4ycvdWJ8ye40KzKWd0RjZQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/ctd/2479313437.html

Wow - makes me feel pretty good about mine.
Mine also has mis-matched front fenders like this one.
This one does look a bit nicer, but might be a little over priced?

Rick (mk2 GOLD) Bastedo

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 09:28:46 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:28:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] H1 carbs and manifold - valuable?
Message-ID: <CABWjhcKqos5bcvQmbCTmbSrNMc6-QkLhgWrVR8AnRMUZUGB=_Q@mail.gmail.com>

Removed from a Bugeye Sprite motor.

They are rebuildable, gaskets are worn out and they can't be used as-is
without at least new gaskets.
They did (barely) work before I removed them, the car ran with them however
rather than rebuild them I opted to replace them with a set of HS2's.
I think I also have the air filters - the little original type.
These come with linkages and the intake manifold.

If they are worth something to someone please contact me by email, I'm
looking at selling a few items to help with the budget for the trip to
Wisconsin.
If you want pictures tell me.

Rick Bastedo

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 09:33:51 2011
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:33:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for wheel bits
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Message-ID: <1309966431.51156.YahooMailClassic@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Phil,
I went through this a couple of years ago, and contacted Revolution Wheels for
lug nuts. I deemed them too expensive and did as Herby said, drilled the holes
out to 11/16" and purchased lug nuts from Summit Racing. I actually had to buy
two sets because I couldn't get the correct size washers with the first set.
You may want to check with Revolution again, http://www.revolutionwheels.com/
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 7/2/11, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

From: Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for wheel bits
To: "Spridgets at autox. team. Net spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:08 AM

I am planning to mount a set of revolution wheels on the bugeye.  I need
sleeved lug nuts and the heavy washers and also the rigid valve stems.  Where
can I find this stuff.  Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 11:03:11 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:03:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
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Actually Kalifornia only allows seven characters, so it would have to be *GUNS
KIL* to which I would counter, no... *PEPL KIL* ;-)

I knew a fellow a dentist in fact who actually got California to approve the
license *4 PLAY* (obvious sexual meaning if you interpret it as such.)  He
succesfully argued that his sports car was "for play" so to speak, so go
figure the DMV's logic, or lack thereof.

Speaking of Dentists, I saw this plate on a nice luxury car several years
ago which I can only assume is for a dentist (and maybe an Indian Dentist,
as in Native American.)  To date it's one of my favorites...  *FIXM2TH*

Cheers,

Curt

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:12 AM, EASTJONES alan <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com
> wrote:

> So if I was a Californian yank  could I apply for a Licence plate  GUNS
> KILL
> ,
>  and if I got it, what might happen to my car ?
>  I could guess what might happen in Texas ! !
>
> Alan Warwick UK
>
> Where our personalised reg plates are generally limited to a max of 3
> letters  and 3 numbers i.e.  as previously issued to vehicles between aprox
> 1910 and 1990  (guesstimate) and only if it is available , rude words like
> SEX  not allowed !
> _______________________________________________
>
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 11:05:44 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
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It is very cool. Technology has been here for a while, though I'm sure they
have 
continued to develop it. I have an adjustable wrench (like in the video
only 
about 5 inches log) that I got as a sample at a trade show in Nashville
probably 
8 years ago. Mine is not capable of being used to torque anything
down with, but 
makes for a really cool conversation piece.

 - David Booker
Long Island

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 11:12:45 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:12:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
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I also have had problems in the 65 Midget, with poor connections between the
fuse and the holder. A small bit of dowel, slightly smaller than the fuse
diameter, wrapped in sandpaper, corrected that. Put in in each holder clamp,
and twist....

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Well, this must be a new electrical problem.
>
> The Midget died at a stop sign with no electricity to the engine circuit;
> the lighting circuit was fine - a loose wire somewhere and my testing
> equipment was all in the camper.  So my wife picked me up and we came back
> with a tow bar, but the problem was gone and  and I drove the car home.  At
> that point, I couldn't find the problem and I knew it will die again at the
> most inconvenient time.  Several days later, the tachometer and turn signals
> quit, but the car continued to run and we got home - beginner's luck.
>
> After some wiggling and poking, it developed that some fuses had lost
> contact in their holders, probably because quiet a lot of  oil spilled out
> of a loose cap on my spare oil bottle kept just above.  So the problem was
> oily fuses.
>
> Is that a first?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>


-- 
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 11:17:44 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:17:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <CAN4UhULn3RZLdqazkPC+FXuD4yz+_zWGKTWJ87++FmT4c6=RBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnuq_4Uio0QsBXR-1KzEvoW-u8tDVyW7dtVojvHeSABHyWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN4UhULn3RZLdqazkPC+FXuD4yz+_zWGKTWJ87++FmT4c6=RBQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Why, do they not like The Atlanta Rhythm Section in the U.K.>

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, EASTJONES alan <
alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
> mind you an Ass in the UK is a kind of donkey , probably wouldn't get ARS
> though !
>

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jul  6 11:59:12 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:59:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>

I have used a wad of steel wool on the end of a drill bit; bit in variable
speed drill. You have to blow out the conductive wool bits real good though.
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:13 AM
To: Michael Rowe
Cc: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC Content

I also have had problems in the 65 Midget, with poor connections between the
fuse and the holder. A small bit of dowel, slightly smaller than the fuse
diameter, wrapped in sandpaper, corrected that. Put in each holder clamp,
and twist....
====================================================
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Well, this must be a new electrical problem.
>
> The Midget died at a stop sign with no electricity to the engine circuit;
> the lighting circuit was fine - a loose wire somewhere and my testing
> equipment was all in the camper.  So my wife picked me up and we came back
> with a tow bar, but the problem was gone and  I drove the car home.  At
> that point, I couldn't find the problem and I knew it will die again at
the
> most inconvenient time.  Several days later, the tachometer and turn
signals
> quit, but the car continued to run and we got home - beginner's luck.
>
> After some wiggling and poking, it developed that some fuses had lost
> contact in their holders, probably because quiet a lot of  oil spilled out
> of a loose cap on my spare oil bottle kept just above.  So the problem was
> oily fuses.
>
> Is that a first?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________
>
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> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>


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From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 12:01:55 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:01:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OvK37CCD9t5e_eKsvq5QtjTczY==m-tNvyQ67eBCQRc7w@mail.gmail.com>

If you are after reliability rather than originality, replace the fuse block
with a new one that uses spade fuses.

http://tinyurl.com/3fvchx3

This one has 8 circuits so you can add stuff like air horns or a headlight
relay, and take some load off other circuits.  If you have a driver, rather
than a show car, this is an option.  You can pick them up an most auto
supply stores for cheep.

I put one in my '77 Midget.  I still can't understand the design of not
having the headlamps on a fuse!

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also have had problems in the 65 Midget, with poor connections between
> the
> fuse and the holder. A small bit of dowel, slightly smaller than the fuse
> diameter, wrapped in sandpaper, corrected that. Put in in each holder
> clamp,
> and twist....
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > Well, this must be a new electrical problem.
> >
> > The Midget died at a stop sign with no electricity to the engine circuit;
> > the lighting circuit was fine - a loose wire somewhere and my testing
> > equipment was all in the camper.  So my wife picked me up and we came
> back
> > with a tow bar, but the problem was gone and  and I drove the car home.
>  At
> > that point, I couldn't find the problem and I knew it will die again at
> the
> > most inconvenient time.  Several days later, the tachometer and turn
> signals
> > quit, but the car continued to run and we got home - beginner's luck.
> >
> > After some wiggling and poking, it developed that some fuses had lost
> > contact in their holders, probably because quiet a lot of  oil spilled
> out
> > of a loose cap on my spare oil bottle kept just above.  So the problem
> was
> > oily fuses.
> >
> > Is that a first?
> >
> > Michael Rowe
> > '74 Bugeyed Midget
> > '60 Sprite kit
> > Long Island, NY
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jul  6 12:26:17 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:26:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
Message-ID: <CA39F6D9.31936%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Why not just get a new fuse block?  Better ones are available from many
sources. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 12:29:56 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeTTtC1T3yS0ss7b0doH4soCx1Xmi6HrtFDzBWN-8voc+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJKrNeTTtC1T3yS0ss7b0doH4soCx1Xmi6HrtFDzBWN-8voc+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqM1+oCBJv9iGkbzd2FoEvc5srv+Nk1=nHoir79xwx6yw@mail.gmail.com>

I think we are confusing government policy with the application of the same
by some mindless, bureaucratic minion. The two are NOT synonymous!  In fact,
they are rarely even congruent!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:

> Actually Kalifornia only allows seven characters, so it would have to be
> *GUNS
> KIL* to which I would counter, no... *PEPL KIL* ;-)
>
> I knew a fellow a dentist in fact who actually got California to approve
> the
> license *4 PLAY* (obvious sexual meaning if you interpret it as such.)  He
> succesfully argued that his sports car was "for play" so to speak, so go
> figure the DMV's logic, or lack thereof.
>
> Speaking of Dentists, I saw this plate on a nice luxury car several years
> ago which I can only assume is for a dentist (and maybe an Indian Dentist,
> as in Native American.)  To date it's one of my favorites...  *FIXM2TH*
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:12 AM, EASTJONES alan <
> alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com
> > wrote:
>
> > So if I was a Californian yank  could I apply for a Licence plate  GUNS
> > KILL
> > ,
> >  and if I got it, what might happen to my car ?
> >  I could guess what might happen in Texas ! !
> >
> > Alan Warwick UK
> >
> > Where our personalised reg plates are generally limited to a max of 3
> > letters  and 3 numbers i.e.  as previously issued to vehicles between
> aprox
> > 1910 and 1990  (guesstimate) and only if it is available , rude words
> like
> > SEX  not allowed !
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 12:32:45 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:32:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <1309971944.65455.YahooMailRC@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <6994b.71216184.3b450dcf@aol.com>
	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<1309971944.65455.YahooMailRC@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuque3__ojMs=TTcF0AugLwXN_usbbM27DxQY26b-d5C-g@mail.gmail.com>

David,

If your idea of interesting conversation is a copy of a wrench, you might
find yourself alone in the corner at most parties....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:05 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> It is very cool. Technology has been here for a while, though I'm sure they
> have
> continued to develop it. I have an adjustable wrench (like in the video
> only
> about 5 inches log) that I got as a sample at a trade show in Nashville
> probably
> 8 years ago. Mine is not capable of being used to torque anything
> down with, but
> makes for a really cool conversation piece.
>
>  - David Booker
> Long Island
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
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Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
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From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jul  6 12:35:37 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:35:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
Message-ID: <201107061135815.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

CLR works   then rinse  Calcium Lime Rust remover
         Peter
--
At 12:59 PM 7/6/2011, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>I have used a wad of steel wool on the end of a drill bit; bit in variable
>speed drill. You have to blow out the conductive wool bits real good though.
>===========================================

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 12:36:21 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:36:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupWfaxa8WhJ_GDE0pbd_f-mgMdsB2cC903UoEG3Gi3R5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Long shank stone bit in a Dremel....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:59 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> I have used a wad of steel wool on the end of a drill bit; bit in variable
> speed drill. You have to blow out the conductive wool bits real good
> though.
> ===========================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:13 AM
> To: Michael Rowe
> Cc: Spridget Chat Group
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC Content
>
> I also have had problems in the 65 Midget, with poor connections between
> the
> fuse and the holder. A small bit of dowel, slightly smaller than the fuse
> diameter, wrapped in sandpaper, corrected that. Put in each holder clamp,
> and twist....
> ====================================================
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > Well, this must be a new electrical problem.
> >
> > The Midget died at a stop sign with no electricity to the engine circuit;
> > the lighting circuit was fine - a loose wire somewhere and my testing
> > equipment was all in the camper.  So my wife picked me up and we came
> back
> > with a tow bar, but the problem was gone and  I drove the car home.  At
> > that point, I couldn't find the problem and I knew it will die again at
> the
> > most inconvenient time.  Several days later, the tachometer and turn
> signals
> > quit, but the car continued to run and we got home - beginner's luck.
> >
> > After some wiggling and poking, it developed that some fuses had lost
> > contact in their holders, probably because quiet a lot of  oil spilled
> out
> > of a loose cap on my spare oil bottle kept just above.  So the problem
> was
> > oily fuses.
> >
> > Is that a first?
> >
> > Michael Rowe
> > '74 Bugeyed Midget
> > '60 Sprite kit
> > Long Island, NY
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Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 12:54:04 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:54:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
Message-ID: <14f2.2547fda.3b46094b@aol.com>

On the e-mail list at work two people have the surname Wankling. I don't  
suppose they are interested in personalised number plates.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 06/07/2011 15:41:36 GMT Daylight Time,  
mdrowe at optonline.net writes:

A  motorcycle guy we know named Steve Comer wanted a name plate - Comer - 
and  
NY state wouldn't give it too him.  At least it wasn't  Ejaculatorio.

Michael Rowe 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul  6 12:58:20 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:58:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
Message-ID: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>

What's more I bet you can use the programme to make the mould in a size  
specific to the metal being cast.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 06/07/2011 05:38:34 GMT Daylight Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:

Explain  to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
except for  development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part 
and
then  create a mold from it?

Leo

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  6 13:02:05 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:02:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Saluting the flag
Message-ID: <027f01cc3c0f$3349eac0$99ddc040$@net>

Although the Fourth of July has just passed, I thought I would pass on the
following information regarding veterans and rendering a hand salute to
colorsL

 

New Law Allows Retirees and Vets to Salute Flag  The National Defense
Authorization Act of 2008 contained an amendment to allow un-uniformed
service members, military retirees, and veterans to render a hand salute
during the hoisting, lowering, or passing of the U.S. flag. The amendment
does not address saluting the flag during the playing of the national
anthem, pledge of allegiance, honors (i.e. Taps), or any other saluting
situations.

Excerpt from H.R. 4986:

 

SEC. 594. CONDUCT BY MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES AND VETERANS OUT OF UNIFORM
DURING HOISTING, LOWERING, OR PASSING OF UNITED STATES FLAG.

Section 9 of title 4, United States Code, is amended by striking "all
persons present" and all that follows through the end of the section and
inserting the following: "all persons present in uniform should render the
military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present
but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present
should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the
heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and
hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of
other countries present should stand at attention. All such conduct toward
the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag
passes."

 

Buster

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Jul  6 13:39:36 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:39:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeTTtC1T3yS0ss7b0doH4soCx1Xmi6HrtFDzBWN-8voc+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJKrNeTTtC1T3yS0ss7b0doH4soCx1Xmi6HrtFDzBWN-8voc+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97C83EE5-F0A0-40E0-81F1-A2DDBB927924@chartermi.net>

My favorite California personalized plate bit of trivia - this happened when
California changed from 6 character plates to 7 characters.  "Porsche" became
available and hundreds of people applied for that plate.  The state decided to
hold a drawing to determine who got it.  The winner of the drawing was a guy
who drove a Toyota - he didn't even own a Porsche.  He said he hoped to have
one some day.  LOL

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:03 PM, "Curt/Nancy Arndt" <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually Kalifornia only allows seven characters, so it would have to be
*GUNS
> KIL* to which I would counter, no... *PEPL KIL* ;-)

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 14:09:57 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:09:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeTTtC1T3yS0ss7b0doH4soCx1Xmi6HrtFDzBWN-8voc+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJKrNeTTtC1T3yS0ss7b0doH4soCx1Xmi6HrtFDzBWN-8voc+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0w2UgHGp9DVZgwQoKfv0XOXA=4SNC9pODOqChK_e0fNgA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com> wrote:
Speaking of Dentists, I saw this plate on a nice luxury car several
years ago which I can only assume is for a dentist (and maybe an
Indian Dentist, as in Native American.)  To date it's one of my
favorites...  *FIXM2TH*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Many years ago there was a short article in Playboy regarding a
Playmate of the Year whose personalized tag was revoked by the state
DMV. It was a western state like Arizona, Nevada, ??? She had a new
Corvette that she received for winning PMOY and the tag said "SMEGMA".
Somebody looked it up after it was approved...

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - gone but not forgotten (the oil stain is still there!)

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 14:11:02 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:11:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>
References: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OvH2E5OTZX_fAJchGW2RDv8OQYxzPzdOQv3NusQr2ABPg@mail.gmail.com>

Go to www.3dsystems.com and look around.  They make a wax printer, as well
as plastic.  The wax printer is suitable for lost wax castings.  Can you use
the lost wax process for white metal casting?

It looks like the cheepy personal printer is about $10,000.  (Plus tax, void
where prohibited.)  And don't forget the supplies, which I doubt you can buy
at Harbor Freight.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget




On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:58 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> What's more I bet you can use the programme to make the mould in a size
> specific to the metal being cast.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
> In a message dated 06/07/2011 05:38:34 GMT Daylight Time,
> 60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:
>
> Explain  to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for  development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part
> and
> then  create a mold from it?
>
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Jul  6 14:15:12 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:15:12 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
References: <CAN4UhUKSAyFN-rfFepycnpsMbOiBzUBP8s=_i81u0x=5mQ-0xA@mail.gmail.com><CAJgjnuq_4Uio0QsBXR-1KzEvoW-u8tDVyW7dtVojvHeSABHyWg@mail.gmail.com><CAN4UhULn3RZLdqazkPC+FXuD4yz+_zWGKTWJ87++FmT4c6=RBQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABQj3r9Dz_GoUF+MrRZ72PFTppC5S_2ogwQ1r1DtZhZWafpT2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EAE24A58F32C4DCF86CCB49103C14DDD@user8634b3d69b>

The Accident Reconstruction Society objected.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <>
To: "EASTJONES alan" <>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns


> Why, do they not like The Atlanta Rhythm Section in the U.K.>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, EASTJONES alan <
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> mind you an Ass in the UK is a kind of donkey , probably wouldn't get ARS
>> though !
>>
>
> -- 
> DON JULIO 1942

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Jul  6 14:40:37 2011
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:40:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OvH2E5OTZX_fAJchGW2RDv8OQYxzPzdOQv3NusQr2ABPg@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>
	<CAMEj5OvH2E5OTZX_fAJchGW2RDv8OQYxzPzdOQv3NusQr2ABPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9c4a79$cmgoua@email.mtu.edu>

Some "Makers" have a 3D printer for sale at $1300. It only prints 
small items, but it is amazing what they can do with the machine 
(which you must build before using from their kit.). 
http://store.makerbot.com/makerbot-thing-o-matic.html
Check on items made at www.thingiverse.com


>It looks like the cheepy personal printer is about $10,000.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 15:20:44 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:20:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <201107061135815.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
	<201107061135815.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <559C1A30-5B28-4C51-9218-64635FD2EBE7@gmail.com>

On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

> CLR works   then rinse  Calcium Lime Rust remover


I was taught to take the fuse holder out and bead-blast the fuse  
holders and the spade terminals.

(I'm fairly sure you guys know who taught me that ;)

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jul  6 15:28:22 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:28:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <559C1A30-5B28-4C51-9218-64635FD2EBE7@gmail.com>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
	<201107061135815.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<559C1A30-5B28-4C51-9218-64635FD2EBE7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201107061428335.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 04:20 PM 7/6/2011, Kevin Valentine wrote:

>On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>
>>CLR works   then rinse  Calcium Lime Rust remover
>
>
>I was taught to take the fuse holder out and bead-blast the fuse
>holders and the spade terminals.
>
>(I'm fairly sure you guys know who taught me that ;)
>
>Kevin V.
>Tuscarora, Pa
================
Problem with that is you lose whatever coating is on connectors. Now 
you have to really keep them clean.

Kev, there's a box going to be on your doorstep tomorrow morning from 
an overpaid UPS guy.

Peter 

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Jul  6 15:51:42 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:51:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <14f2.2547fda.3b46094b@aol.com>
References: <14f2.2547fda.3b46094b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1309989102.98853.YahooMailNeo@web180615.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

My 2002 Harley Davidson  has a plate that reads TRAN REK.   I am a train
engineer and a friend on the railroad told my Harley mechanic about a small
run in I had several years ago in the Los Angeles yard when I ran my
locomotive into a 5 well empty double stack car.  Nothing big, I just knocked
it off the rail.  They repaired it and it was back in service the next day, I
was not.  I got a month off from the railroad for that.  Soon after,  I walked
into my Harley mechanic, used by my big mouthed friend also, and was greeted
by the name "Train Wreck" which has stuck among my circle of motorcycle
friends.  The choice of personalized plate which I had been searching for
became instantly clear to me.  The lady at the DMV laughed when she handed me
the plate, saying that she thought that was a "good one".
http://tinyurl.com/3mzfc29

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Spinger
>________________________________
>From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com"
<WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
>To: mdrowe at optonline.net;
alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
>Sent: Wednesday, July
6, 2011 11:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
>
>On
the e-mail list at work two people have the surname Wankling. I don't 
>suppose they are interested in personalised number plates.
>
>Weslake-Monza
1330
>
>In a message dated 06/07/2011 15:41:36 GMT Daylight Time, 
>mdrowe at optonline.net writes:
>
>A  motorcycle guy we know named Steve Comer
wanted a name plate - Comer - 
>and  
>NY state wouldn't give it too him.  At
least it wasn't  Ejaculatorio.
>
>Michael Rowe
>_______________________________________________
>
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Jul  6 15:54:36 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Motorcycle Picture
Message-ID: <1309989276.72465.YahooMailNeo@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

In case the tiny URL I sent does not work, here is a much larger one that will:
http://www2.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=3547815022/a=748660022_748660022/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

From pvanwig at me.com  Wed Jul  6 17:00:26 2011
From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:00:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>
References: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6733C2CC-6FD0-4C36-9904-8889DF8D2D97@me.com>

Yes shrinkage is easy to add in.
Ex pattern maker
Paul Van Wig
Long Beach/Big Bear
pvanwig at mac dot com

On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:58 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> What's more I bet you can use the programme to make the mould in a size  
> specific to the metal being cast.
> 
> Weslake-Monza 1330
> 
> 
> In a message dated 06/07/2011 05:38:34 GMT Daylight Time,  
> 60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:
> 
> Explain  to me how the printer does anything that is of Major importance
> except for  development comncept parts.  Is it that you can take the part 
> and
> then  create a mold from it?
> 
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From pvanwig at me.com  Wed Jul  6 17:03:26 2011
From: pvanwig at me.com (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:03:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OvH2E5OTZX_fAJchGW2RDv8OQYxzPzdOQv3NusQr2ABPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>
	<CAMEj5OvH2E5OTZX_fAJchGW2RDv8OQYxzPzdOQv3NusQr2ABPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441A3DE9-8228-4952-A414-69686DA50CCF@me.com>

Yes

Paul Van Wig
Long Beach/Big Bear
pvanwig at mac dot com

On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Allen Hefner <lbc77mg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Go to www.3dsystems.com and look around.  They make a wax printer, as well
> as plastic.  The wax printer is suitable for lost wax castings.  Can you use
> the lost wax process for white metal casting?
> 
> It looks like the cheepy personal printer is about $10,000.  (Plus tax, void
> where prohibited.)  And don't forget the supplies, which I doubt you can buy
> at Harbor Freight.
> 
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
> 
> *Current:*
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget

From nases at verizon.net  Wed Jul  6 17:19:44 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:19:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <201107061428335.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CABQj3r88W09QcKa13k39KdTUPm-K0ORhNGyJBysT4jm8qbJXPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<425AC1F0243141ABAD171AF7A6EB39AA@spider>
	<201107061135815.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<559C1A30-5B28-4C51-9218-64635FD2EBE7@gmail.com>
	<201107061428335.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CAE24BDE-48AF-428C-A0F6-62B62A72E1F1@verizon.net>

Cool, what'd he get?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

> At 04:20 PM 7/6/2011, Kevin Valentine wrote:
>
>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>>
>>> CLR works   then rinse  Calcium Lime Rust remover
>>
>>
>> I was taught to take the fuse holder out and bead-blast the fuse
>> holders and the spade terminals.
>>
>> (I'm fairly sure you guys know who taught me that ;)
>>
>> Kevin V.
>> Tuscarora, Pa
> ================
> Problem with that is you lose whatever coating is on connectors. Now you
have to really keep them clean.
>
> Kev, there's a box going to be on your doorstep tomorrow morning from an
overpaid UPS guy.
>
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jul  6 17:34:46 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:34:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hzRQEdxA256Q2X5fns4C1O1K+Uabb56kjb2Dfbg6vJteA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8904549E943C4924B53312C50F92AD6C@Home>
	<CACJx3hzRQEdxA256Q2X5fns4C1O1K+Uabb56kjb2Dfbg6vJteA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8700D4B23E83488FA38D88100D4612AA@Home>

David,

I don't doubt that you are right about the circuit.  But I found that 
particular break by turning on the engine and the turn signal, (which has a 
buzzer because the return doesn't always work),  and then poking around 
looking for current with a tester.  When I pushed down on the end of one of 
the fuses, the turn signal and tachometer went on.  There is no question 
that shoving it down into the holder was the fix.  Then I paid more 
attention and the whole set was gooed up with oil.  I cleaned them all up 
with brake cleaner and put on dielectric grease, and all is well.

Uh...for the moment.

It could well be that the dead engine problem is separate.  I will check the 
ignition circuit

Michael Rowe


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC Content


Michael,
No offense, but I do not agree with your diagnosis. There are NO fuses
in the ignition circuit. 

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  6 18:31:46 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:31:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Motorcycle Picture
In-Reply-To: <1309989276.72465.YahooMailNeo@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1309998706.80224.YahooMailClassic@web161220.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Mike,

Why are you riding a Harley owned by some transvestite named Rex?

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Wed, 7/6/11, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:

From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Motorcycle Picture
To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 5:54 PM

In case the tiny URL I sent does not work, here is a much larger one that
will:
http://www2.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=3547815022/a=7486600
22_748660022/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer
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From pfeilmat at gmail.com  Wed Jul  6 18:54:01 2011
From: pfeilmat at gmail.com (Matt P)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:54:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <14f2.2547fda.3b46094b@aol.com>
References: <14f2.2547fda.3b46094b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <73E2DA87-0D11-444A-A484-2A0E4400CD43@gmail.com>

At work we have office symbols. One of my friends were given OG/ASMO. I am
surprised that the higher ranking officers have not caught on.
We have to include them in email signature blocks and his emails go to the
Pentagon for official government business.


Matt P

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:54 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> On the e-mail list at work two people have the surname Wankling. I don't
> suppose they are interested in personalised number plates.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 06/07/2011 15:41:36 GMT Daylight Time,
> mdrowe at optonline.net writes:
>
> A  motorcycle guy we know named Steve Comer wanted a name plate - Comer -
> and
> NY state wouldn't give it too him.  At least it wasn't  Ejaculatorio.
>
> Michael Rowe
> _______________________________________________
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Jul  6 19:07:36 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:07:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Motorcycle Picture
In-Reply-To: <1309998706.80224.YahooMailClassic@web161220.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1309989276.72465.YahooMailNeo@web180604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<1309998706.80224.YahooMailClassic@web161220.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1310000856.93666.YahooMailNeo@web180603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Is this some comment about the new gay marriage law?
>________________________________
>From: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
>To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Michael MacLean
<rrengineer.mike at att.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:31 PM
>Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Motorcycle Picture
>
>
>Mike,
>
>Why are you riding a Harley owned
by some transvestite named Rex?
>
>Rick
>
>Follow My Nasty Boy Build:
http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
>--- On Wed, 7/6/11, Michael MacLean
<rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Michael MacLean
<rrengineer.mike at att.net>
>>Subject: [Spridgets] Motorcycle Picture
>>To:
"spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>>Date: Wednesday, July
6, 2011, 5:54 PM
>>
>>
>>In case the tiny URL I sent does not work, here is a
much larger one that will:
>>http://www2.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=3547815022/a=74866
0022_748660022/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/
>>
>>Mike MacLean
>>60 Sprite
>>56 BN2
>>02 Heritage
 Springer
>>_______________________________________________
>>
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul  6 20:01:59 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:01:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <999616358.426918.1310003808783.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <238215232.426973.1310004119372.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

One of our female engineers was bringing a loaded grain train into the yard a few months ago. A rail broke under the third or fourth car, leaving several cars on the ground in various stages of disrepair. It took over two weeks to clean up the mess, as they cut up the wrecked cars where they were laying.

Much to the engineer's disgust, the major intersection which was blocked all this time is now known, by everyone from Ogden, UT to Portola, CA as "Donna's Corner"

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com, mdrowe at optonline.net, "alan east-jones" <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 2:51:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns

My 2002 Harley Davidson  has a plate that reads TRAN REK.   I am a train
engineer and a friend on the railroad told my Harley mechanic about a small
run in I had several years ago in the Los Angeles yard when I ran my
locomotive into a 5 well empty double stack car.  Nothing big, I just knocked
it off the rail.  They repaired it and it was back in service the next day, I
was not.  I got a month off from the railroad for that.  Soon after,  I walked
into my Harley mechanic, used by my big mouthed friend also, and was greeted
by the name "Train Wreck" which has stuck among my circle of motorcycle
friends.  The choice of personalized plate which I had been searching for
became instantly clear to me.  The lady at the DMV laughed when she handed me
the plate, saying that she thought that was a "good one".
http://tinyurl.com/3mzfc29

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Spinger
>________________________________
>From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com"
<WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
>To: mdrowe at optonline.net;
alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
>Sent: Wednesday, July
6, 2011 11:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
>
>On
the e-mail list at work two people have the surname Wankling. I don't 
>suppose they are interested in personalised number plates.
>
>Weslake-Monza
1330
>
>In a message dated 06/07/2011 15:41:36 GMT Daylight Time, 
>mdrowe at optonline.net writes:
>
>A  motorcycle guy we know named Steve Comer
wanted a name plate - Comer - 
>and  
>NY state wouldn't give it too him.  At
least it wasn't  Ejaculatorio.
>
>Michael Rowe
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From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 08:23:19 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:23:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cmgoua@email.mtu.edu>
References: <1850.71c31758.3b460a4c@aol.com>
	<CAMEj5OvH2E5OTZX_fAJchGW2RDv8OQYxzPzdOQv3NusQr2ABPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9c4a79$cmgoua@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5Osynob_z1yu371H63+w2A_5QXpWbYbJEOe6pMCHQu9HLg@mail.gmail.com>

WOW!  Maybe Harbor Frieght will sell one soon.

The link you provided says it will make objects up to about 10cm X 10cm X
11cm.  That's big enough to make small trim parts.  Could be a business
opportunity there.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> Some "Makers" have a 3D printer for sale at $1300. It only prints small
> items, but it is amazing what they can do with the machine (which you must
> build before using from their kit.). http://store.makerbot.com/**
> makerbot-thing-o-matic.html<http://store.makerbot.com/makerbot-thing-o-matic.html>
> Check on items made at www.thingiverse.com
>
>
> It looks like the cheepy personal printer is about $10,000.
>>
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**12702006 at N07/sets/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/>

From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Jul  7 09:53:36 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:53:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
References: <8CE0AC875AC2529-2770-2884A@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>

> Use this website for a demonstration of a terrific electric car.

>   www.opb.org/programs/ofg/videos/view/56-Electric-Drag-Racing

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 10:31:18 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 12:31:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
Message-ID: <b8673.77040189.3b473956@aol.com>

is the name of a fridge you can buy in the UK
 
In a message dated 06/07/2011 21:29:58 GMT Daylight Time,  
cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com writes:

SMEG

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 10:31:55 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 12:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
Message-ID: <b86f2.4dcb97f0.3b47397b@aol.com>

LMAO
 
 
n a message dated 06/07/2011 21:00:27 GMT Daylight Time,  
refisk at chartermi.net writes:

My  favorite California personalized plate bit of trivia - this happened  
when
California changed from 6 character plates to 7 characters.   "Porsche" 
became
available and hundreds of people applied for that  plate.  The state 
decided to
hold a drawing to determine who got  it.  The winner of the drawing was a 
guy
who drove a Toyota - he  didn't even own a Porsche.  He said he hoped to 
have
one some  day.  LOL

Rick

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Jul  7 11:56:00 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 17:56:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <b8673.77040189.3b473956@aol.com>
Message-ID: <421706853.406578.1310061360911.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Used extensively in 'Red Dwarf'

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> is the name of a fridge you can buy in the UK

> SMEG

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 12:02:25 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 13:02:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
References: <8CE0AC875AC2529-2770-2884A@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
	<5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnup_gKuRjmxFpuw-V40S8wFC1SuTDJQiOz1oMBbmTMPGCw@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like fun, but these guys aren't honest about being environmentally
clean.  All they have done is to front load the pollution from the car to
the
power plant that generates the electricity to charge it. Only wind, solar
and nuclear change one form of energy into another without pollution and
we know the problems with nuclear. I'll be a lot more impressed when I see
a wind or solar power car setting world records at the drags.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> > Use this website for a demonstration of a terrific electric car.
>
> >   www.opb.org/programs/ofg/videos/view/56-Electric-Drag-Racing
> _______________________________________________
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>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Thu Jul  7 13:21:14 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:21:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnup_gKuRjmxFpuw-V40S8wFC1SuTDJQiOz1oMBbmTMPGCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110707192114.DWXQ6.36268.root@cdptpa-web13-z02>

(you forgot hydro)

I would like to see a really detailed comparison of the electric vehicle vs. the gasoline vehicle.  We all know what a gallon of gasoline costs, and that cost includes profit that goes to a lot of different people plus taxes to various people.  I've seen the commercials that say how much electricity the little car takes per day compared to the cost in gasoline, and thinking that some of that electricity is generated from coal or oil, you might start to think that there is a big difference in efficience somewhere in one process vs. the other process.  I would like to see a good analysis that would show how this really works.

What I see is that someone digs a well, pumps the crude out of the ground, sells it, ships it to somewhere else, it gets refined into various different components, it gets shipped a few more times, and you buy it at a pump and put it in the automobile.

What I'm also guessing is that someone digs a mine, takes coal out, sells it, ships it to somewhere else, it gets burned to generate electricity, someone builds a bunch of wires, the electricity gets transmitted along the wires to the automobile.

Now why or how is one of these processes way more efficient than the other?  That is what I would like to know.  And I want someone to do an impartial study and get into the actual numbers in order to really show what goes where.


> Looks like fun, but these guys aren't honest about being environmentally
> clean.  All they have done is to front load the pollution from the car to
> the
> power plant that generates the electricity to charge it. Only wind, solar
> and nuclear change one form of energy into another without pollution and
> we know the problems with nuclear. I'll be a lot more impressed when I see
> a wind or solar power car setting world records at the drags.
> 
> There's no such thing as a free lunch.

From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Thu Jul  7 13:37:05 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:37:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
In-Reply-To: <421706853.406578.1310061360911.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <b8673.77040189.3b473956@aol.com>
	<421706853.406578.1310061360911.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <005501cc3cdd$40a70b70$c1f52250$@rr.com>

As in "Rimmer was such a smegging smeghead."

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:56 PM
To: spridgets_autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns

Used extensively in 'Red Dwarf'

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  7 13:40:41 2011
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:40:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shakedown run for Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14699.1310061371.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.14699.1310061371.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4E160BB9.6050805@sbcglobal.net>

The other day it's not raining or ungodly hot so I decide to take my '79 
Midget for a 200 mile round-trip highway run to the family farm to see 
if it, and me, are up to the task of getting to Elkhart Lake.

Car ran surprisingly well and seemed right at home doing 65 down the 
interstate. Just before the exit I need, about 80 miles into the trip, 
my yellow oil pressure "idiot" light pop on and scares the bejebus out 
of me! Good thing I also have a mechanical gauge that was showing a nice 
60 psi.

Got off and went to the nearby McD to change my shorts and sort things 
out. Circuit checks out. Bad pressure switch. This is a replacement 
Borg-Warner switch from O'Reilly's that has failed me before. They offer 
a lifetime replacement for the $6 switch, but I think I'll find a Lucas 
one in my parts pile to replace it. How's that for irony?

Jump back in for the final 16 mile leg on two lane twisty roads. About 
ten minutes in I hear a BANG and then a loud exhaust note. Find a place 
to pull over and I hear a substantial exhaust leak from around the 
exhaust manifold. Crap! It's only a few miles to the farm and I just 
happen to have a spare 1500 engine in the shed.

Get to the farm and park in the shade. The car's too hot to monkey with 
so I do the good son-in-law thing and cut about an acre of grass while 
things cool down.

When I converted the car to twin HS2s a few years ago I also removed the 
EGR valve and other pollution crap. On this car, the EGR sat on top of 
the intake manifold with a pipe that ran down to the exhaust manifold. 
These fittings are fine thread compression fittings not found at the 
local Home Depot, so I had a short section of pipe, with compression 
fitting, sticking out of the manifold with other end capped. Seems I 
blew out that section of pipe, leaving just the hollow compression nut.

Space is severely limited, so I ended up removing the carbs and heat 
shield. I try and remove the similar piece from the spare engine with 
idea of bending over and sealing a section of the pipe and making a 
plug, but it doesn't go well. I ended up removing the hollow nut and 
using a 1/4 inch carriage bolt as a plug, head in first, filled with 
RTV, a washer and double nuts on the exterior side and put it all back 
together. It worked!!! So what if I had a little three hour delay. I'm 
glad I had a decent workbench to affect the repairs.

Car ran fine home, although I did have to stop and reconnect a linkage 
spring that came loose and it was running a little lean. A little 
cleanup and some last minute tweaking and I'll be ready. What else could 
go wrong, right?

See you all in ten days!

Lee

PS: While on the subject of vanity plates offending people, my regular 
car's plate is FOX, my last name, and I get highly offended when people 
think I'm somehow connected to Fox News. :)

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jul  7 13:45:35 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:45:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnup_gKuRjmxFpuw-V40S8wFC1SuTDJQiOz1oMBbmTMPGCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CE0AC875AC2529-2770-2884A@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
	<5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
	<CAJgjnup_gKuRjmxFpuw-V40S8wFC1SuTDJQiOz1oMBbmTMPGCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9BCD8BDA-4F18-425E-8BF6-6BF56F17933D@comcast.net>

And to be totally honest, none of them are environmentally clean as they all
require manufacturing that requires energy use.  That said, it is a LOT easier
to keep a point source clean (power plant) rather than a million moving
vehicles.

And this is nothing new.

Show me a car running a small constant velocity fuel use optimized diesel
running a small electric generator to keep the electric motor running.

Lester


On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Looks like fun, but these guys aren't honest about being environmentally
> clean.  All they have done is to front load the pollution from the car to
> the
> power plant that generates the electricity to charge it. Only wind, solar
> and nuclear change one form of energy into another without pollution and
> we know the problems with nuclear. I'll be a lot more impressed when I see
> a wind or solar power car setting world records at the drags.
>
> There's no such thing as a free lunch.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Larry & Sandi Miller
<millerls at ado13.com>wrote:
>
>>> Use this website for a demonstration of a terrific electric car.
>>
>>>  www.opb.org/programs/ofg/videos/view/56-Electric-Drag-Racing
>> _______________________________________________
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jul  7 14:17:38 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:17:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <20110707192114.DWXQ6.36268.root@cdptpa-web13-z02>
References: <20110707192114.DWXQ6.36268.root@cdptpa-web13-z02>
Message-ID: <E073E5FD-17DD-4705-B1B4-ECEDA13E7264@comcast.net>

It's GREAT to see such naivete and hope still lives!

;-)

Lester


On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:21 PM, <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> (you forgot hydro)

snip


>   And I want someone to do an impartial study and get into the actual
numbers in order to really show what goes where.
>

snip

>>
>> There's no such thing as a free lunch.
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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jul  7 14:29:22 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shakedown run for Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4E160BB9.6050805@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.14699.1310061371.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E160BB9.6050805@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <201107071329942.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 02:40 PM 7/7/2011, Lee Fox wrote:
>replacement Borg-Warner switch from O'Reilly's that has failed me 
>before. They offer a lifetime replacement for the $6 switch, but I 
>think I'll find a Lucas one in my parts pile to replace it. How's 
>that for irony?

Lucas didn't make that switch, Mssrs. Smith did.

>See you all in ten days!
>
>Lee
>
>PS: While on the subject of vanity plates offending people, my 
>regular car's plate is FOX, my last name, and I get highly offended 
>when people think I'm somehow connected to Fox News. :)
>_______________________________________________

I would be, too!

See you soon!

Peter C 

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Jul  7 14:32:12 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:32:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shakedown run for Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4E160BB9.6050805@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1740209064.408786.1310070732690.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Just hold your tongue the right way, click your heels and hope <G>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Lee Fox" <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> What else could go wrong, right?

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Thu Jul  7 15:57:06 2011
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Local place to buy points?
Message-ID: <1816560031.359649.1310075826052.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

So i need points but don't want to spend $5 for points and $5 for shipping.B 
anybody know of place in yardley/ bucks county to pick them up.B  the Pep Boys
by me doesn't have them (it was worth a shot).

Thanks

Ryan

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  7 15:57:38 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:57:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shakedown run for Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <201107071329942.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <mailman.14699.1310061371.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net><4E160BB9.6050805@sbcglobal.net>
	<201107071329942.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4CE11468785B4134AAA60C0953CDC77C@HomePC>

-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Caldwell

At 02:40 PM 7/7/2011, Lee Fox wrote:

>PS: While on the subject of vanity plates offending people, my
>regular car's plate is FOX, my last name, and I get highly offended
>when people think I'm somehow connected to Fox News. :)
>_______________________________________________

I would be, too!

See you soon!

Peter C

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Whataya mean?  Fox News is an upstanding organization.  They are no where 
near as bad as their sister tabloid publication that is shutting down after 
getting caught hacking into people's phone accounts

OK, yes they are as bad.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 16:49:51 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 17:49:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shakedown run for Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4CE11468785B4134AAA60C0953CDC77C@HomePC>
References: <mailman.14699.1310061371.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E160BB9.6050805@sbcglobal.net>
	<201107071329942.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4CE11468785B4134AAA60C0953CDC77C@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupaZk4KY+embW2iqJvW4Z6_MvuQ1HfPv3P0POR=xCWpcQ@mail.gmail.com>

Let's change the subject.  There do happen to be quite a few people on this
list who disagree strongly with your assessment.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Caldwell
>
> At 02:40 PM 7/7/2011, Lee Fox wrote:
>
> >PS: While on the subject of vanity plates offending people, my
> >regular car's plate is FOX, my last name, and I get highly offended
> >when people think I'm somehow connected to Fox News. :)
> >_______________________________________________
>
> I would be, too!
>
> See you soon!
>
> Peter C
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Whataya mean?  Fox News is an upstanding organization.  They are no where
> near as bad as their sister tabloid publication that is shutting down after
> getting caught hacking into people's phone accounts
>
> OK, yes they are as bad.
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Cheers!!
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Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Jul  7 16:57:31 2011
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:57:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
References: <8CE0AC875AC2529-2770-2884A@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
	<5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <9dm03d$cdf1iv@email.mtu.edu>

At 11:53 AM 7/7/2011, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> > Use this website for a demonstration of a terrific electric car.

Knowing the demographics of the folks on this list, I suspect our 
first (and last) electric vehicle will be a mobility scooter. See you 
at the "Home" on Bingo night!


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Thu Jul  7 16:59:14 2011
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?cnlhbi5rdWJhbm9mZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:59:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Freedom_of_expression--Guns?=
Message-ID: <20110707225911.202A418767E@autox.team.net>

A friend of mine got bored one day and counted how many times smeghead was used in every episode of red dwarf.  
Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Jim Seippel" <aseippel at austin.rr.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 3:37 pm
Subject: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns
To: "'Dave KK7SS'" <kk7ss at frontier.com>, "'spridgets_autox.team.net'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>

As in "Rimmer was such a smegging smeghead."

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:56 PM
To: spridgets_autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Freedom of expression--Guns

Used extensively in 'Red Dwarf'

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Jul  7 17:48:41 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:48:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <9dm03d$cdf1iv@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <744359220.410981.1310082521231.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

A close-by neighbor swapped his 3-wheel mobility cart for a 4-wheel mobility cart.
Says it's more stable in the corners and he can now make 5 mph

(I'd better enjoy my LBC's while I'm still able <G>)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> Knowing the demographics of the folks on this list, I suspect our
> first (and last) electric vehicle will be a mobility scooter. See you
> at the "Home" on Bingo night!

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Jul  7 17:56:04 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:56:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
References: <8CE0AC875AC2529-2770-2884A@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com><5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
	<9dm03d$cdf1iv@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <12B8D685D44646E7919C0F90185F26AC@Dell9200>

Bingo!  I like Bingo!

Zoom Zoom, let's have scooter races!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Collins"
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR


Knowing the demographics of the folks on this list, I suspect our 
first (and last) electric vehicle will be a mobility scooter. See you 
at the "Home" on Bingo night!

From bkitterer at me.com  Thu Jul  7 18:50:20 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:50:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck in CT - little LBC
Message-ID: <C1B9ABAF-DA95-48D3-8EF4-B0CE064D3C1B@me.com>

Well it is looking like I have a pinched nerve in my neck so we are marking time here in CT getting test done and seeing MD's.  If anyone is around and has a loose schedule maybe be we can meet up some where.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul  7 19:28:36 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 01:28:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <1351379688.442022.1310088388943.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1963847568.442051.1310088516358.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Have you found one that will allow us to have scootercrosses on Sunday afternoons? Wonder if there's a way to adapt my electric boat motor to get a few extra ponies out of my scooter?

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 3:57:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR

At 11:53 AM 7/7/2011, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> > Use this website for a demonstration of a terrific electric car.

Knowing the demographics of the folks on this list, I suspect our 
first (and last) electric vehicle will be a mobility scooter. See you 
at the "Home" on Bingo night!


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Jul  7 20:05:04 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:05:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck in CT - little LBC
In-Reply-To: <C1B9ABAF-DA95-48D3-8EF4-B0CE064D3C1B@me.com>
References: <C1B9ABAF-DA95-48D3-8EF4-B0CE064D3C1B@me.com>
Message-ID: <4E1665D0.5050100@wi.net>

Obviously a Bugeye drove by and you twisted your neck around so quickly 
you pinch a nerve!  Or .......Dolores hit you.

Hope you are better soon.

Dave and Terri

Dave W.
"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org


On 7/7/2011 7:50 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
> Well it is looking like I have a pinched nerve in my neck so we are marking time here in CT getting test done and seeing MD's.  If anyone is around and has a loose schedule maybe be we can meet up some where.
>
> Bob Kitterer and Dolores
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
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From homehandy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  7 20:40:29 2011
From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:40:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Local place to buy points?
References: <1816560031.359649.1310075826052.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <9A699488AF2844A590BCA7EA80B89CB5@WOODSTOCK>

NAPA Know How
Jeff Kelly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Cc: "Club, Philly" <Philly_MG_Club at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Local place to buy points?


> So i need points but don't want to spend $5 for points and $5 for 
> shipping.B
> anybody know of place in yardley/ bucks county to pick them up.B  the Pep 
> Boys
> by me doesn't have them (it was worth a shot).
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
> _______________________________________________
>
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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Fri Jul  8 02:05:47 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:05:47 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets]  Freedom of expression--Guns
Message-ID: <CAN4UhULYjAhy3j1q6s1_XRdVJb37pGH=Eumv54cp_KzYwddYKg@mail.gmail.com>

The previous place I worked at the guys that interpreted test results and
calculated stress values from drawings were known as analysts , When we got
a new computer system their office got a new location title  and all their
documents were prefixed ANAL.

Actually due to the nature of their job , most of them were !

Alan
Warwick UK

==============================================================

Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:54:01 -0700
From: Matt P <pfeilmat at gmail.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
At work we have office symbols. One of my friends were given OG/ASMO. I am
surprised that the higher ranking officers have not caught on.
We have to include them in email signature blocks and his emails go to the
Pentagon for official government business.


Matt P

From clarici at verizon.net  Fri Jul  8 05:19:16 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 07:19:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
Message-ID: <BD8AF56B-4A3A-49E9-8243-5A6BDBF41651@verizon.net>

FYI

We are leaving next sat from NJ hopefully around 6:30-7am going to be driving
rt80. We plan on staying somewhere between Toledo, OH and Auburn, IN. Sunday
morning we are going to stop at the Auburn Cord And Deusenburg museum. Then on
the road again. I am going to travel in my new Eurovan along with my mom,
sister, wife and son. We are trailering dads Speedwell Sprite out. Probably
going to be lots of stops but if anyone wants to travel or meet up let me
know.

Frankie

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul  8 06:14:40 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 05:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
In-Reply-To: <BD8AF56B-4A3A-49E9-8243-5A6BDBF41651@verizon.net>
References: <BD8AF56B-4A3A-49E9-8243-5A6BDBF41651@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1310127280.17722.YahooMailRC@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Frankie,

Have fun at the ACD Museum. It might be one of thee most impressive auto 
museums, not to mention the building that houses it.

 jay




________________________________
From: Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
To: Spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>; EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 7:19:16 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th

FYI

We are leaving next sat from NJ hopefully around 6:30-7am going to be driving
rt80. We plan on staying somewhere between Toledo, OH and Auburn, IN. Sunday
morning we are going to stop at the Auburn Cord And Deusenburg museum. Then on
the road again. I am going to travel in my new Eurovan along with my mom,
sister, wife and son. We are trailering dads Speedwell Sprite out. Probably
going to be lots of stops but if anyone wants to travel or meet up let me
know.

Frankie

From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Jul  8 06:19:22 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:19:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
In-Reply-To: <BD8AF56B-4A3A-49E9-8243-5A6BDBF41651@verizon.net>
References: <BD8AF56B-4A3A-49E9-8243-5A6BDBF41651@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <68C390D3-0B9A-4ECF-952D-85D499D78801@mac.com>

I'll run with you. We can meet at my place or name a spot on the turnpike. 

Larry

--

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

Sent from my Magical iPad

On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net> wrote:

> FYI
> 
> We are leaving next sat from NJ hopefully around 6:30-7am going to be driving
> rt80. We plan on staying somewhere between Toledo, OH and Auburn, IN. Sunday
> morning we are going to stop at the Auburn Cord And Deusenburg museum. Then on
> the road again. I am going to travel in my new Eurovan along with my mom,
> sister, wife and son. We are trailering dads Speedwell Sprite out. Probably
> going to be lots of stops but if anyone wants to travel or meet up let me
> know.
> 
> Frankie
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul  8 06:20:59 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 05:20:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Magazine + S.M.O.G. and AH Club Mags
Message-ID: <1310127659.61895.YahooMailRC@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

There was a discussion recently about British Car Magazine.

If anyone is interested, I listed a dozen British Car Mags from 1999-2001 on 
ebay. Item #120746986232.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120746986232


I also came across a few stacks of miscellaneous club newsletters and bits 
including SMOG newsletters, Chatter, and the Austin-Healey Magazine from Pacific 
Centre Club. If anyone wants these, they can be had for the postage. Contact me 
offlist.

Thanks,
 jay

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul  8 07:32:46 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:32:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
In-Reply-To: <BD8AF56B-4A3A-49E9-8243-5A6BDBF41651@verizon.net>
References: <BD8AF56B-4A3A-49E9-8243-5A6BDBF41651@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <26A7A7A9-56DD-4032-8107-51206DD078A4@verizon.net>

Frankie,
That's weird we are planning to stop at the ACD Museum also.   We are also
trailering the  Sprite.  If you want we can meet somewhere on Rt 80.  We're
still deciding where to stop each night but plan to leave PA at the same  time
you leave NJ.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote:

> FYI
>
> We are leaving next sat from NJ hopefully around 6:30-7am going to be
driving
> rt80. We plan on staying somewhere between Toledo, OH and Auburn, IN.
Sunday
> morning we are going to stop at the Auburn Cord And Deusenburg museum. Then
on
> the road again. I am going to travel in my new Eurovan along with my mom,
> sister, wife and son. We are trailering dads Speedwell Sprite out. Probably
> going to be lots of stops but if anyone wants to travel or meet up let me
> know.
>
> Frankie
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul  8 11:51:36 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:51:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Historian needed
Message-ID: <4E1743A8.4020503@wi.net>

Hi folks!

Almost time and some of you will be leaving soon.  Terri and I and the 
rest of the committee wish you safe and uneventful (the negative 
uneventful) travels.  Jim Johnson has assured us the weather will be 
great......right Jim?
We locals have learned that the weather is very capricious (not only 
that it can change suddenly too!) so pack accordingly.  David Lieb, that 
means if we get a lot of rain you may need your high-heeled sandles. ;-)

We will probably need some volunteers to direct traffic at the car show 
or AutoX and Trevor Jessie and David Lieb are the contacts for that.

I have a request from our video photographer, John Seaman, who is 
producing a DVD of the event.  John would like to interview a person who 
could relate the history of the Sprite and MG Midget (dates, models, 
etc.).  I have a feeling he would like to get shots of examples of each 
model.  If someone or a pair of "someones" would like to be in front of 
the camera let me know and I can breathe a little easier this week.  Ya, 
I know how shy you all are...but there must be somebody out there!?

Let me know.  THANKS!

/Safety Fast!/

-- Dave W.
"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul  8 13:46:49 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:46:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th DVD
Message-ID: <4E175EA9.9050203@wi.net>

Thanks Alan!  I forgot to mention that, absolutely, DVD's of the event 
will be available, on an order basis (*at the event*), through John 
Seaman, the videographer.  Contact information will be in the program.  
More information about still photos also at the event.

-- 
Dave W.
"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 15:40:52 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:40:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th DVD
In-Reply-To: <4E175EA9.9050203@wi.net>
References: <4E175EA9.9050203@wi.net>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoid1o-dFT5kktBC0x7Xrf59mEAfUaq9viY2tm4ye5fow@mail.gmail.com>

All I had to put in the program was John's phone number.  Hope that's
okay...  John might want to print up some fliers with ordering information
on them to hand out on check-in.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Thanks Alan!  I forgot to mention that, absolutely, DVD's of the event
> will be available, on an order basis (*at the event*), through John
> Seaman, the videographer.  Contact information will be in the program.
> More information about still photos also at the event.
>
> --
> Dave W.
> "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
> July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 17:45:58 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
In-Reply-To: <1310127280.17722.YahooMailRC@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1310168758.85286.YahooMailClassic@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Agreed.  Jay and I hit that one together while going to an Indy F1 race. 
Those ACD cars are works of art and you can spend hours looking at the
details. 

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Fri, 7/8/11, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 50th
To: "Frankie Clarici 4th" <clarici at verizon.net>, "Spridgets list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 8:14 AM

Frankie,

Have fun at the ACD Museum. It might be one of thee most impressive auto
museums, not to mention the building that houses it.

 jay




________________________________
From: Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
To: Spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>;
EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 7:19:16 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th

FYI

We are leaving next sat from NJ hopefully around 6:30-7am going to be driving
rt80. We plan on staying somewhere between Toledo, OH and Auburn, IN. Sunday
morning we are going to stop at the Auburn Cord And Deusenburg museum. Then
on
the road again. I am going to travel in my new Eurovan along with my mom,
sister, wife and son. We are trailering dads Speedwell Sprite out. Probably
going to be lots of stops but if anyone wants to travel or meet up let me
know.

Frankie
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  8 17:46:02 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:46:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Finally!  A 3D printer with a practical application
Message-ID: <036d01cc3dc9$32302a80$96907f80$@net>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8620908/3D-chocolate-printer-coul
d-be-future-of-gifts.html?utm_source=tmg
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8620908/3D-chocolate-printer-cou
ld-be-future-of-gifts.html?utm_source=tmg&utm_medium=TD_8620908&utm_campaign
=tech0907> &utm_medium=TD_8620908&utm_campaign=tech0907

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  8 17:47:41 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:47:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 'Driving' the Formula One British Grand Prix
Message-ID: <037201cc3dc9$6d8deb80$48a9c280$@net>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorsport/8615663/Driving-the-Formula-O
ne-British-Grand-Prix.html 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  8 17:49:45 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:49:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
Message-ID: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>

http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/

This was passed on by somebody who swears by it.  Anybody know anything about
it?  Snake oil?  Real science?

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jul  8 17:51:45 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:51:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Historian needed
In-Reply-To: <4E1743A8.4020503@wi.net>
References: <4E1743A8.4020503@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1176470155.20110708165145@pacifier.com>

Hello Woerpel,

     Jim promised us nothing but good weather the last time we headed
     out from Washington State. It rained on us every day on the way
     and even AT the event. Don't take his word on the weather, he has
     no control any more. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
   "We've taken over the government," the general cooed.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul  8 18:25:55 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:25:55 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th DVD
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuoid1o-dFT5kktBC0x7Xrf59mEAfUaq9viY2tm4ye5fow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E175EA9.9050203@wi.net>
	<CAJgjnuoid1o-dFT5kktBC0x7Xrf59mEAfUaq9viY2tm4ye5fow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61426.107.28.20.15.1310171155.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

All I have is his phone number for now.  He's set up for production and
will give me cards/flier later.  I will then pass the information on to
the list.  Anyone can then order a DVD direct from John.

Dave W.


> All I had to put in the program was John's phone number.  Hope that's
> okay...  John might want to print up some fliers with ordering information
> on them to hand out on check-in.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Alan!  I forgot to mention that, absolutely, DVD's of the event
>> will be available, on an order basis (*at the event*), through John
>> Seaman, the videographer.  Contact information will be in the program.
>> More information about still photos also at the event.
>>
>> --
>> Dave W.
>> "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
>> July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
>> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
> Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
> Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
> Info & Registration here:
> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul  8 18:34:42 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:34:42 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Historian needed
In-Reply-To: <1176470155.20110708165145@pacifier.com>
References: <4E1743A8.4020503@wi.net> <1176470155.20110708165145@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <61542.107.28.20.15.1310171682.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

> Hello Woerpel,
>
>      Jim promised us nothing but good weather the last time we headed
>      out from Washington State. It rained on us every day on the way
>      and even AT the event. Don't take his word on the weather, he has
>      no control any more.
NO CONTROL OF THE WEATHER EITHER! Oh that's what you meant. ;-)

anon.


>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>    "We've taken over the government," the general cooed.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 18:42:02 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:42:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-tKESmM+QJAMXAOk070cnubehxXF2YGUqSkqRNVNDZFw@mail.gmail.com>

Hopefully the problem will solve itself once the government gets tired
of subsidizing it.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 18:46:42 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r9gXASVrRufTM8ce8r_tAAHc8Xxcy3Tard+Hiko8nt2GA@mail.gmail.com>

There is a product I buy, called Heet, in a red bottle
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Fluids-and-Chemicals/Fuel-Additive-and-Cleaner/Heet/_/N-262dZ1z140kx
At work, I have a new golf cart, for getting around campus. The thing would
not start, without the engine turning over, for about 10 - 15 seconds, and
then would chug along, until I had a straight to open it up on. This was
after I put my first tank of gas into it. I added HEET, twice the amount
recommended on the bottle, and the problem went away. I have 5 bottles on
the shelf, so that each time I add fuel, I will add HEET, to counteract the
effects of the ethanol in the fuel.
YMMV.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/
>
> This was passed on by somebody who swears by it.  Anybody know anything
> about
> it?  Snake oil?  Real science?
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Jul  8 18:53:28 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:53:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CA3CF498.31A0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  Snake oil?  Real science?
What do you have against snake oil?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul  8 19:17:51 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:17:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <CABQj3r9gXASVrRufTM8ce8r_tAAHc8Xxcy3Tard+Hiko8nt2GA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
	<CABQj3r9gXASVrRufTM8ce8r_tAAHc8Xxcy3Tard+Hiko8nt2GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <258356B2167A44029C5FB8C029C20F6C@HomePC>

Brad, we used to use the yellow bottle a lot up here in the northern climes to
remove water in the winter.  From what I see on their website, the only
advantage to the red bottle is to clean carbs and injectors. They donbt say
anything about help with ethanol?

Canbt argue with your results, but canbt help but wonder if your problem
was not ethanol? I donbt know.


LAD


From: Brad Fornal
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?

There is a product I buy, called Heet, in a red bottle
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Fluids-and-Chemicals/Fuel-Additi
ve-and-Cleaner/Heet/_/N-262dZ1z140kx
At work, I have a new golf cart, for getting around campus. The thing would
not start, without the engine turning over, for about 10 - 15 seconds, and
then would chug along, until I had a straight to open it up on. This was after
I put my first tank of gas into it. I added HEET, twice the amount recommended
on the bottle, and the problem went away. I have 5 bottles on the shelf, so
that each time I add fuel, I will add HEET, to counteract the effects of the
ethanol in the fuel.
YMMV.


On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

  http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/

  This was passed on by somebody who swears by it.  Anybody know anything
about
  it?  Snake oil?  Real science?
  _______________________________________________

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From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jul  8 19:00:47 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:00:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ready for the Run to the 50th.
Message-ID: <218016559.20110708180047@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  The last of the parts I've been awaiting arrived today and they've
  been installed. I got some "stud plates" from Colin in Australia. No
  one else seemed to be able to supply them, and he's a straight up
  guy (from my dealings anyway) .. Plus cap and rotor from Jeff at
  Advanced Distributors (brass inserts in the cap, red -NO CARBON-
  rotor were on the porch. I had new plugs ready to go and have
  everything installed, oil changed, zerks greased, and car waxed.
  Andrew and I will put the Hard Top on on Thursday and head North to
  Seattle, then East down I-90 with "the group" on Friday .. only 4500
  miles left to go.


  Trial run to P.I.R. for the Historic Races tomorrow.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Jul  8 19:47:00 2011
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:47:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <9c4a79$cn2tsp@email.mtu.edu>

The MSDS sheet says it is less that 0.5% (weight per volume) 
Propriety Organic Compounds and greater than 95% (w/v) Naptha. I 
would guess the small portion is the additive that controls bacteria. 
So the major ingredient is Naptha. Not sure how naptha would 
"stabilize" alcohol. Didn't naptha go by the name "white gas" in the 
old days and was/is used in Coleman lanterns?

At 07:49 PM 7/8/2011, you wrote:
>http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/
>
>This was passed on by somebody who swears by it.  Anybody know anything about
>it?  Snake oil?  Real science?
>_______________________________________________
>
>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From millerls at ado13.com  Fri Jul  8 20:47:59 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:47:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vendors/Swap Meet
Message-ID: <F4E163FA-F1E3-4220-96B0-16CE500ABB2B@ado13.com>

Are there vendors and/or a swap meet at the Midget 50th?

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 21:07:39 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 22:07:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <258356B2167A44029C5FB8C029C20F6C@HomePC>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
	<CABQj3r9gXASVrRufTM8ce8r_tAAHc8Xxcy3Tard+Hiko8nt2GA@mail.gmail.com>
	<258356B2167A44029C5FB8C029C20F6C@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r_vrcBZfHiVQeSxBeqTLAOqaRu+8RG3YAmutLuHS_dJvw@mail.gmail.com>

All I know is, we have had this cart for 6 weeks, and it just hit 21
operation hours today. I have put fuel in it once. The problem went away
with the application of HEET.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>   Brad, we used to use the yellow bottle a lot up here in the northern
> climes to remove water in the winter.  From what I see on their website,
the
> only advantage to the red bottle is to clean carbs and injectors. They
donbt
> say anything about help with ethanol?
>
> Canbt argue with your results, but canbt help but wonder if your
problem
> was not ethanol? I donbt know.
>
>
> LAD
>
>
>  *From:* Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
> *To:* Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
>
> There is a product I buy, called Heet, in a red bottle
>
>
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Fluids-and-Chemicals/Fuel-Additi
ve-and-Cleaner/Heet/_/N-262dZ1z140kx
> At work, I have a new golf cart, for getting around campus. The thing would
> not start, without the engine turning over, for about 10 - 15 seconds, and
> then would chug along, until I had a straight to open it up on. This was
> after I put my first tank of gas into it. I added HEET, twice the amount
> recommended on the bottle, and the problem went away. I have 5 bottles on
> the shelf, so that each time I add fuel, I will add HEET, to counteract the
> effects of the ethanol in the fuel.
> YMMV.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/
>>
>> This was passed on by somebody who swears by it.  Anybody know anything
>> about
>> it?  Snake oil?  Real science?
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 21:22:24 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 22:22:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cn2tsp@email.mtu.edu>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
	<9c4a79$cn2tsp@email.mtu.edu>
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Naptha = Naplam.    Saw lots of it in the jungle   ;-)  You cut it with
alcohol so ethanol would just thin it out a bit and make it burn better.

Just a guess tho.....

Cheers!
Jim

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> The MSDS sheet says it is less that 0.5% (weight per volume) Propriety
> Organic Compounds and greater than 95% (w/v) Naptha. I would guess the small
> portion is the additive that controls bacteria. So the major ingredient is
> Naptha. Not sure how naptha would "stabilize" alcohol. Didn't naptha go by
> the name "white gas" in the old days and was/is used in Coleman lanterns?
>
>
> At 07:49 PM 7/8/2011, you wrote:
>
>> http://mystarbrite.com/**startron//content/view/100/**136/lang,en/<http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/>
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From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Jul  8 22:15:16 2011
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:15:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
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References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
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I'm impressed enough with the reviews I found via Google searches that I 
think I'll try it.
Dave R.

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Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?

http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/

This was passed on by somebody who swears by it.  Anybody know anything 
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 00:18:24 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 01:18:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <07114A8CED0B46B895CF8530C665B3ED@RikerPC>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
	<07114A8CED0B46B895CF8530C665B3ED@RikerPC>
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 Dramatically Increases Fuel Economy
Eliminates Black Soot and Exhaust Stains
Removes Carbon Build-Up
Disperses Bacteria
Stabilizes Gas & Diesel Fuels
Eliminates & Prevents Ethanol Fuel Problems
Cooks Breakfast
Does Laundry
Gives Massages
Hisssssssssssssssss......

Ed

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:15 PM, David Riker <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:

> I'm impressed enough with the reviews I found via Google searches that I
> think I'll try it.
> Dave R.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  8 23:54:40 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:54:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <CA3CF498.31A0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
	<CA3CF498.31A0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78-0hYZFQ391kBPRzdOiuTFAM1y2k1b4qwc-+-vAhC76Q@mail.gmail.com>

Well, is it Rattler, Asp, or Cobra?  IMO Cobra is best.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>>  Snake oil?  Real science?
> What do you have against snake oil?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul  9 01:28:55 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 03:28:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shakedown run for Midget 50th
Message-ID: <12e9f.20ddd43e.3b495d37@aol.com>

I suppose there is a reason why you haven't fitted an oil pressure sensor  
that operates at a lot more than '5 psi and too late to be of much use'?
 
In a message dated 07/07/2011 21:10:36 GMT Daylight Time,  
lee.fox at sbcglobal.net writes:

my  yellow oil pressure "idiot" light pop on and scares the bejebus out 
of me!  Good thing I also have a mechanical gauge that was showing a nice 
60  psi.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul  9 01:31:08 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 03:31:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
Message-ID: <12ee1.746ad622.3b495dbc@aol.com>

Something like two thirds of the power submitted by the internal combustion 
 engine is wasted heat so it's only about a third efficient.  
 
 
In a message dated 07/07/2011 21:08:32 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com 
 writes:

Now why  or how is one of these processes way more efficient than the  other

From kmappley at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 06:00:19 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 07:00:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Ethanol problem solver!
Message-ID: <CANv6dsDtQviVgsz6CebJR2G3jWnaNmb2qL74veC4fLeJAJw1Yw@mail.gmail.com>

Star-whatever ---snake oil!!!  Heet IS alcohol (ethanol) !!!!!
Used to use Heet all the time to take WATER out of the fuel system till
ethanol gas came along. NO LONGER NECESSARY since ethanol gas does the same
thing!!!!


Kurt.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 08:19:15 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:19:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in eBay classifieds California.
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVeZkd9bGGqtNBNEiFFtTewkuhD-DrTrkOKaUymu-PN-1A@mail.gmail.com>

List,
This 59 might be worth looking at for you folks in Orange, California. At
3.9K you can probably get him a bit lower being he has a hacked in rotary
but also has the 948.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.m748&item=120745019663&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D1220551363265350857

 Good luck,

Lin
Wish I was going to the 50th, get lots of photos ; ) Someone get photos of
Frankie's new party VW Euro Van pulling Frank's Speedwell and family please.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  9 09:33:41 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Expansion Tank Wanted
Message-ID: <1310225621.99491.YahooMailClassic@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Every time I look at the Nasty Boy engine compartment, the plastic radiator
overflow tank jumps out at me in a bad way.  It's just not in keeping with the
period swap look I've been going for.  I think one of the brass ones from a
later Spridget/MGB would look more appropriate.  Anyone have a spare and
bracket they'd like to sell at a reasonable price?

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat Jul  9 09:38:00 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:38:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vendors/Swap Meet
In-Reply-To: <F4E163FA-F1E3-4220-96B0-16CE500ABB2B@ado13.com>
References: <F4E163FA-F1E3-4220-96B0-16CE500ABB2B@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <201107090838454.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Larry, none is planned. There will be some vendor items as 
raffle/auction prizes.

  I suppose anyone who hasn't used up the extra parts they dragged 
along might be willing to "share".

  And some folks look at everyone else's car as spares.

Should anyone need help or parts in their travels, I and my store are 
2 hours West of the Big Event. While we are closed on weekends, I 
will try to accommodate.

My cell phone is (608) 444-6906

Peter C
------------------------
At 09:47 PM 7/8/2011, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>Are there vendors and/or a swap meet at the Midget 50th?

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 10:22:09 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:22:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <12ee1.746ad622.3b495dbc@aol.com>
References: <12ee1.746ad622.3b495dbc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E188031.9050303@tx.rr.com>

Well this is one good step in the analysis, and I've been thinking of 
ways to change an engine to better utilize this waste energy.

But now how much waste heat is there in a steam turbine powered by a 
coal-fed boiler?


> Something like two thirds of the power submitted by the internal 
> combustion engine is wasted heat so it's only about a third efficient.
> In a message dated 07/07/2011 21:08:32 GMT Daylight Time, 
> bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes:
>
>     Now why or how is one of these processes way more efficient than
>     the other

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jul  9 10:42:19 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 09:42:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in eBay classifieds California.
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVeZkd9bGGqtNBNEiFFtTewkuhD-DrTrkOKaUymu-PN-1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA3DD2FB.31A46%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I've seen that one a few times over the years. It's usually sitting on a
trailer in a parking lot somewhere near my shop. The owner is NOT a Sprite
guy. I think he bought it with the rotary  already part way in. He was
always talking about going electric. I don't think he's done anything to it
except move it a few times. It looks pretty solid.
BZ

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  9 10:43:37 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:43:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in eBay classifieds California.
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVeZkd9bGGqtNBNEiFFtTewkuhD-DrTrkOKaUymu-PN-1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVeZkd9bGGqtNBNEiFFtTewkuhD-DrTrkOKaUymu-PN-1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03ae01cc3e57$5a067030$0e135090$@net>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:  "This 59 might be worth looking at for you folks in
Orange, California." 
http://tinyurl.com/42dz4tb

If anyone wants it checked out, let me know.

Buster

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul  9 11:10:21 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:10:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Expansion Tank Wanted
In-Reply-To: <1310225621.99491.YahooMailClassic@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1310225621.99491.YahooMailClassic@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8A291560ADD54FCFB6E30E79977E68C4@spider>

eBay
http://tinyurl.com/675awg5
========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Expansion Tank Wanted

Every time I look at the Nasty Boy engine compartment, the plastic radiator
overflow tank jumps out at me in a bad way.  It's just not in keeping with
the
period swap look I've been going for.  I think one of the brass ones from a
later Spridget/MGB would look more appropriate.  Anyone have a spare and
bracket they'd like to sell at a reasonable price?

Rick

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jul  9 11:12:51 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:12:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Expansion Tank Wanted
In-Reply-To: <1310225621.99491.YahooMailClassic@web161210.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA3DDA23.31A49%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Beer cans work well too.
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=radiator%20overflow%20tank&um=1&ie=UTF-8&
> tbo=u&tbm=shop&source=og&sa=N&tab=wf

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 12:24:20 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 13:24:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx78-0hYZFQ391kBPRzdOiuTFAM1y2k1b4qwc-+-vAhC76Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>
	<CA3CF498.31A0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<CAEAAx78-0hYZFQ391kBPRzdOiuTFAM1y2k1b4qwc-+-vAhC76Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnup6U6yu0y0HA8iqBHyrkkQoShp1aPPhbd2dYMhR2bsrSw@mail.gmail.com>

What!!???  You mean snakes leak oil like a Spridget!!???

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:54 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, is it Rattler, Asp, or Cobra?  IMO Cobra is best.
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> wrote:
> >>  Snake oil?  Real science?
> > What do you have against snake oil?
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 12:33:39 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 13:33:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <4E188031.9050303@tx.rr.com>
References: <12ee1.746ad622.3b495dbc@aol.com>
  <4E188031.9050303@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurKtDynBQsh1ZEUm62fvmX_o4+Bf0=7qqcu-FDkRA9MMg@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, the power industry has developed some very clever and efficient
ways of capturing and reusing the heat from the boilers. Their engineers and
designers understand that the more efficient they can make the process of
generating electricity with fossil fuel fired turbines the better their
profit margins become.

It seems to be popular to believe that the big energy companies are
profligate wasters of resources. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
They all invest large amounts of their profits in trying to find more
efficient ways to produce energy. It is to their benefit to do so.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:22 AM, BJNoSHOV8 <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> Well this is one good step in the analysis, and I've been thinking of
> ways to change an engine to better utilize this waste energy.
>
> But now how much waste heat is there in a steam turbine powered by a
> coal-fed boiler?
>
>
> > Something like two thirds of the power submitted by the internal
> > combustion engine is wasted heat so it's only about a third efficient.
> > In a message dated 07/07/2011 21:08:32 GMT Daylight Time,
> > bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes:
> >
> >     Now why or how is one of these processes way more efficient than
> >     the other
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 12:38:00 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 13:38:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnurKtDynBQsh1ZEUm62fvmX_o4+Bf0=7qqcu-FDkRA9MMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <12ee1.746ad622.3b495dbc@aol.com> <4E188031.9050303@tx.rr.com>
	<CAJgjnurKtDynBQsh1ZEUm62fvmX_o4+Bf0=7qqcu-FDkRA9MMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E18A008.8060800@tx.rr.com>

That makes perfect sense, but they can't recover 100% of the heat.  I 
want to know how much they recover.


> Actually, the power industry has developed some very clever and 
> efficient ways of capturing and reusing the heat from the boilers. 
> Their engineers and designers understand that the more efficient they 
> can make the process of generating electricity with fossil fuel fired 
> turbines the better their profit margins become.
>
> It seems to be popular to believe that the big energy companies are 
> profligate wasters of resources. Nothing could be farther from the 
> truth. They all invest large amounts of their profits in trying to 
> find more efficient ways to produce energy. It is to their benefit to 
> do so.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  9 13:09:34 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 12:09:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: NOT ONE, BUT TWO OLD CLASSICS!
Message-ID: <03ba01cc3e6b$bdbf85d0$393e9170$@net>

You'll get a kick out of these two old Classics:

Video:

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2011/07/08/automobiles/collectibles/100000000
895665/two-classics-one-car.html

 

Print:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/automobiles/packard-81-is-a-youngster-to-i
ts-driver.html?pagewanted=2
<http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/automobiles/packard-81-is-a-youngster-to-
its-driver.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1> &_r=1

tj

From pchast at francomm.com  Sat Jul  9 13:40:27 2011
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 15:40:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <4E188031.9050303@tx.rr.com>
References: <12ee1.746ad622.3b495dbc@aol.com>
  <4E188031.9050303@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <op.vyc99pyssjevdj@pete200>

They were considered 24 -30% efficient themselves. the system with
downstream low pressure uses can be as much as 65% efficient.

  In my readings for exams way back when...

Pete
Athens, NY


On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:22:09 -0400, BJNoSHOV8 <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

>
> Well this is one good step in the analysis, and I've been thinking of
> ways to change an engine to better utilize this waste energy.
>
> But now how much waste heat is there in a steam turbine powered by a
> coal-fed boiler?
>
>
>> Something like two thirds of the power submitted by the internal
>> combustion engine is wasted heat so it's only about a third efficient.
>> In a message dated 07/07/2011 21:08:32 GMT Daylight Time,
>> bjshov8 at tx.rr.com writes:
>>
>>     Now why or how is one of these processes way more efficient than
>>     the other
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From pchast at francomm.com  Sat Jul  9 13:41:28 2011
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 15:41:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in eBay classifieds California.
In-Reply-To: <CA3DD2FB.31A46%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <CA3DD2FB.31A46%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <op.vydabetgsjevdj@pete200>

The Turbine itself that is back in the 60's and 70's

Pete

On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:42:19 -0400, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>  
wrote:

>
> I've seen that one a few times over the years. It's usually sitting on a
> trailer in a parking lot somewhere near my shop. The owner is NOT a  
> Sprite
> guy. I think he bought it with the rotary  already part way in. He was
> always talking about going electric. I don't think he's done anything to  
> it
> except move it a few times. It looks pretty solid.
> BZ
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jul  9 13:56:17 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:56:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <1378411107.462167.1310241305429.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1361035389.462178.1310241377733.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Nah. That's just a nasty rumor started by the people who try to tell you that snakes are slimy. It doesn't matter what kind they are - they all taste pretty much the same. If Brad would take his python up to Spridget 50, you could all have a nice dinner. I recommend a tempura batter with just a trace of onion powder. You don't want to overwhelm the delicate flavor of the meat.

Kate
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:24:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?

What!!???  You mean snakes leak oil like a Spridget!!???

Cheers!!
Jim

From pondhopautomation at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 14:35:56 2011
From: pondhopautomation at gmail.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:35:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <4E18A008.8060800@tx.rr.com>
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	<4E18A008.8060800@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALs2bXkPiqxIusNyEQG/lGYCgQAAEAAAAMSpBBXiuAhEq3/f4kIomngBAAAAAA==@gmail.com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_heat_recovery_unit


Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJNoSHOV8
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:38 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR

That makes perfect sense, but they can't recover 100% of the heat.  I want
to know how much they recover.


> Actually, the power industry has developed some very clever and 
> efficient ways of capturing and reusing the heat from the boilers. 
> Their engineers and designers understand that the more efficient they 
> can make the process of generating electricity with fossil fuel fired 
> turbines the better their profit margins become.
>
> It seems to be popular to believe that the big energy companies are 
> profligate wasters of resources. Nothing could be farther from the 
> truth. They all invest large amounts of their profits in trying to 
> find more efficient ways to produce energy. It is to their benefit to 
> do so.
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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  9 17:27:43 2011
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:27:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] C.L. Ad - MG Midget/ Bugeye Clone - $6600 (Asheboro,
	NC )
Message-ID: <5627C06F99444288B269B148A1152E36@HomeComputer>

Not mine.

 

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2481005047.html

 

Next generation Bugeye.....it even has roll up windows! 1973 MG Midget
chassis with fiberglass front and rear clips. 1275 engine with twin SU
carbs. 
Disc brakes, more comfortable seats, Dodge Viper Red. Needs carpet. Thinning
heard.....no trades needed. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 17:33:15 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 18:33:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
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Thank you Duncan.  That's what I was trying to point out.  Unfortunately it
takes the wind out of the sails of those who continue to demonize the energy
companies. Currently available and even proposed so called "Green" systems
can't even replicate the efficiency of our present energy production. That
fact makes the "Greenies" furious so they never mention it in their
tirades!!  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Duncan Sinclair <pondhopautomation at gmail.com
> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_heat_recovery_unit
>
>
> Thanks
> Duncan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BJNoSHOV8
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:38 PM
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
>
> That makes perfect sense, but they can't recover 100% of the heat.  I want
> to know how much they recover.
>
>
> > Actually, the power industry has developed some very clever and
> > efficient ways of capturing and reusing the heat from the boilers.
> > Their engineers and designers understand that the more efficient they
> > can make the process of generating electricity with fossil fuel fired
> > turbines the better their profit margins become.
> >
> > It seems to be popular to believe that the big energy companies are
> > profligate wasters of resources. Nothing could be farther from the
> > truth. They all invest large amounts of their profits in trying to
> > find more efficient ways to produce energy. It is to their benefit to
> > do so.
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 17:26:33 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 18:26:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <1361035389.462178.1310241377733.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <1378411107.462167.1310241305429.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<1361035389.462178.1310241377733.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuq-1BEaBEzTbnWuN_p=mz+KeJ2yugzcMuWMKMAMdXkZDw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the chuckle, Kate!  We lost our 14 foot, 200# Burmese Python back
in 1997. Lung infection I think. She was a really fun house pet for some
years. I have eaten plenty of viper meat but couldn't eat a python.  It
would be like eating your pet dog or cat.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Nah. That's just a nasty rumor started by the people who try to tell you
> that snakes are slimy. It doesn't matter what kind they are - they all taste
> pretty much the same. If Brad would take his python up to Spridget 50, you
> could all have a nice dinner. I recommend a tempura batter with just a trace
> of onion powder. You don't want to overwhelm the delicate flavor of the
> meat.
>
> Kate
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> To: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:24:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
>
> What!!???  You mean snakes leak oil like a Spridget!!???
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
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From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Jul  9 19:52:51 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 18:52:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] C.L. Ad - MG Midget/ Bugeye Clone - $6600 (Asheboro, NC )
In-Reply-To: <5627C06F99444288B269B148A1152E36@HomeComputer>
References: <5627C06F99444288B269B148A1152E36@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <FFE3CA44-7A93-4CF1-BEC6-6F668915EFC8@ado13.com>

Not bad.

On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Dean Swanson wrote:

> Not mine.
>
>
>
> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2481005047.html
>
>
>
> Next generation Bugeye.....it even has roll up windows! 1973 MG Midget
> chassis with fiberglass front and rear clips. 1275 engine with twin SU
> carbs.
> Disc brakes, more comfortable seats, Dodge Viper Red. Needs carpet.
Thinning
> heard.....no trades needed.
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From jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Sat Jul  9 21:06:05 2011
From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:06:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] C.L. Ad - MG Midget/ Bugeye Clone - $6600 (Asheboro, NC )
In-Reply-To: <FFE3CA44-7A93-4CF1-BEC6-6F668915EFC8@ado13.com>
References: <5627C06F99444288B269B148A1152E36@HomeComputer>
	<FFE3CA44-7A93-4CF1-BEC6-6F668915EFC8@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <4E19171D.8040704@bak.rr.com>

(G) Let me guess...it doesn't come with a top..ever

On 7/9/2011 6:52 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> Not bad.
>
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Dean Swanson wrote:
>
>> Not mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2481005047.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Next generation Bugeye.....it even has roll up windows! 1973 MG Midget
>> chassis with fiberglass front and rear clips. 1275 engine with twin SU
>> carbs.
>> Disc brakes, more comfortable seats, Dodge Viper Red. Needs carpet.
> Thinning
>> heard.....no trades needed.
>> _______________________________________________

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  9 21:12:10 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 20:12:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eco-Marathon of SUPER ELECTRIC CAR
In-Reply-To: <5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
References: <8CE0AC875AC2529-2770-2884A@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com>
	<5647D26B-039C-40B7-81B1-781073B57985@ado13.com>
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2012892/British-Grand-Prix-2011-Futu
ristic-electric-cars-make-debut-Silvestone-eco-marathon.html

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 10 06:16:32 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 05:16:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <17EB698B-B959-4DB0-84FF-8D6D6FDBA3EE@ado13.com>
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	<AC99869B-B973-475C-8DE0-965FA74F3178@mac.com>
	<000001cc3b85$703396a0$509ac3e0$@net>
	<8BEE50A6-2CC1-439B-A278-DD908F12E3E7@me.com>
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Let's say you're making, oh I don't know, a bleed air wing anti-ice system for
a Very-Light-Jet made in Brazil...you can mockup the entire system in a day.
While you can do this digitally with CATIA, SolidWorks, etc., if you are also
being graded (read: PAID) on maintainability and access to the hardware, this
touchy/feely version can save you a whole lot of money in design iterations.
You can also get a really good idea of flow characteristics like pressure drop
and flow distribution in a manifold.
 
RS
"That which you manifest is before
you" - Enzo the dog


________________________________
From: Larry & Sandi
Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
To: Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
Cc: 'Spridgets'
<Spridgets at autox.team.net>; 'Kitterer Bob' <bkitterer at me.com>
Sent: Tuesday,
July 5, 2011 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC

Yes.

On
Jul 5, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Leo wrote:

> Explain to me how the printer does
anything that is of Major importance
> except for development comncept parts. 
Is it that you can take the part
and
> then create a mold from it?
>
> Leo
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: Kitterer Bob
> Cc: Spridgets
>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
>
> I have a friend that has one
of the printers and is starting to get a lot
of
> business. He does taillights
and trim pieces.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Kitterer Bob
wrote:
>
>> Am sure it is expensive but I think you buy their service rather
than
> buying
> the printer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2011,
at 10:35 PM, Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Jay
Leno featured that on his site. Its pretty amazing what he does with
> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Must be a pricey machine.
>>>
>>> Frankie
>>>
>>> -----Original
Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>>>
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
>>> Sent:
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:53 PM
>>> To: Spridgets
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D
PRINTER - No LBC
>>>
>>> This is amazing.
>>>> You have to watch this.  Its
really, really cool.
>>>>
>>>> 3-D PRINTER
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw
>>>>
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>>
>>> 1960
Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
>>> 1966 Austin Healey
Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>>>
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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 10 08:54:14 2011
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:54:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FS: 1966 Midget "parts" car
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16083.1310300204.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
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If anyone's interested, I have a 1966 Midget parts car for sale.
In fact, about the only thing left is a good title and the VIN plate.
I will bring it along to the Big Party, but can ship for the cost of a 
first class postage stamp. :)
If interested, just let me know.
BTW, I also have some actual parts off this car if you need something 
"smaller."

Lee

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 10 11:14:48 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:14:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3-D PRINTER - No LBC
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Ron Soave wrote:  "Let's say you're making, oh I don't know, a bleed air
wing anti-ice system for a Very-Light-Jet made in Brazil..."

Or, to add a bit of realism to it, say you are an engineer at China's
Dumbfluck Aviation working on its new J-20 stealth fighter.  You need to
replicate a hootchidoo taken from an American F-117 stealth jet, or a
whatchamacallit stolen from an American F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, but the
time, money and effort are too steep.  So, all you need do is roll out your
handy-dandy "RepRap" 3-D copier your industrial espionage people stole from
Adrian Bowyer at the University of Bath.  It's so much cheaper that way!

RBE

From peter at nosimport.com  Sun Jul 10 11:36:09 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:36:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vendors/Swap Meet
In-Reply-To: <201107090838454.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <F4E163FA-F1E3-4220-96B0-16CE500ABB2B@ado13.com>
	<201107090838454.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <20110710103619.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Picked some nice literature at the Iola car show on 
Friday.  Donated!   1961 Midget sales brochure, some pictures, some 
colour chips.   They'll be raffled as well as some other generously 
donated items from this list and other fora.

My car will be PACKED full.

Peter

From kmappley at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 11:43:23 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:43:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ReRe SUPER ELECTRIC CAR!!!
Message-ID: <CANv6dsA2uOsK20gV=WKR3sTts=dQisTTiD+MjefuOfKW8kDPsQ@mail.gmail.com>

As a couple of you folks have pointed out, the efficiency of the burning of
a fossil fuel  for energy is rather low unless you can recover the waste
heat. This is much simpler to do in a small scale decentralized system of
electric generation rather then the huge centralized plants we now have.
Really, Jim and others, how efficient do you have to be when you have a,
supposedly,government regulated MONOPOLY!!!

Kurt.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sun Jul 10 22:09:26 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:09:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
Message-ID: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>

In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months before
I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I nstalled
new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above O
on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly

 

Leo

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 22:55:00 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:55:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupmKsA=rY4B1eHBuQLv-6AdpS_kvtZ7JaC0g2qofhUBWg@mail.gmail.com>

Leo...

Check the radiator cap.  Is it sealing properly?  Could there be a pin hole
leak somewhere in the hoses or radiator?  These are pressurized systems. If
the pressure is too low (leak somewhere), they will overheat. Especially
under load.

Cheers!!
Jim


On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
> Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
> before
> I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
> nstalled
> new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
> except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above O
> on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
> to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
> block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
> start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
> aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
> then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
> oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
> haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
> shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly
>
>
>
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jul 10 22:57:23 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:57:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
Message-ID: <84263424-D66C-40D9-AD73-626527453106@comcast.net>

hmm.. air pocket or worn impeller ?

Lester


On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Leo wrote:

> In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
> Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
before
> I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
nstalled
> new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
> except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above O
> on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
> to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
> block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
> start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
> aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
> then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
> oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
> haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
> shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly
>
>
>
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sun Jul 10 23:57:59 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:57:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupmKsA=rY4B1eHBuQLv-6AdpS_kvtZ7JaC0g2qofhUBWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
	<CAJgjnupmKsA=rY4B1eHBuQLv-6AdpS_kvtZ7JaC0g2qofhUBWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007101cc3f8f$7cda3450$768e9cf0$@net>

Will do a pressure check in the morning as I have a radiator system pressure
check tool and I am going to install a mechanical guage to see the actual
temp and then will get back to the list.  Thanks for the suggeations guys as
I really need this truck going now not later.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:55 PM
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget

Leo...

Check the radiator cap.  Is it sealing properly?  Could there be a pin hole
leak somewhere in the hoses or radiator?  These are pressurized systems. If
the pressure is too low (leak somewhere), they will overheat. Especially
under load.

Cheers!!
Jim


On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
> Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
> before
> I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
> nstalled
> new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
> except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above
O
> on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
> to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
> block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
> start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
> aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
> then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
> oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
> haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
> shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly
>
>
>
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>
>


-- 
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Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jul 11 00:05:42 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 01:05:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupmKsA=rY4B1eHBuQLv-6AdpS_kvtZ7JaC0g2qofhUBWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
	<CAJgjnupmKsA=rY4B1eHBuQLv-6AdpS_kvtZ7JaC0g2qofhUBWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007201cc3f90$9147e3f0$b3d7abd0$@net>

BTW.. Yhis is a big truck, F700, and I also replaced the top tank on (made
of plastic) as it has some small cracks in it.  The two other tanks (center
and the lower cooler tank show no signs of leaks and I am not loosing any
coolant even thru the overflow hose which it would do if the cap was weak.
Later today the mech guage should give a clearer pic.  And the UPPER range
of Normal isn't normal:) L is the step before it pegs

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:55 PM
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget

Leo...

Check the radiator cap.  Is it sealing properly?  Could there be a pin hole
leak somewhere in the hoses or radiator?  These are pressurized systems. If
the pressure is too low (leak somewhere), they will overheat. Especially
under load.

Cheers!!
Jim


On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
> Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
> before
> I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
> nstalled
> new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
> except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above
O
> on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
> to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
> block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
> start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
> aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
> then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
> oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
> haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
> shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly
>
>
>
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Mon Jul 11 08:17:19 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:17:19 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 50, Issue 18
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15498.1310180871.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15498.1310180871.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CAN4UhUJ4poL+9QxWo0capYMHLpoykkC=hSC_gh_p2=j5vwZbMA@mail.gmail.com>

Subject:
 'Driving' the Formula One British Grand Prix.

Banbury , wher this simulator is located, is only 17 miles from where I
live. If  we take the 'old road' there , we drive past BMHT at Gaydon.  My
wife and I had the privelidge a couple of years ago to go to Williams F1
teams factory at Grove near Oxford , (Banbury is about half way ) and we got
to use the simulator there. but sitting in a real F1 car. !
We also did some practice pit stop wheel changes again using genuine pit
equipment and on the prevuious years F1 car. It was quite an experience.
Made special for me as we used the Alan Jones conference room and they let
me hold Alans helmet from when he won the world championship , I have a
photo of me with the helmet and the trophy in the background. A rather
special day out. The museum of all the race cars including Ayrton Senna's ,
Nigel Mansell. Carlos Reuteman, Damon Hill , Rubens Barichello etc etc  ,
and you can photograph and touch the cars . The trophy cabinet room  with
thousands of pounds of silver and gold along with the drivers helmets is
truly something to behold , I think I have downloaded some photos on Flickr
- do a search for "Alan P Jones  Williams " or something like that .

Alan
Warwick UK



Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:47:41 -0700
From: "Robert Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] 'Driving' the Formula One British Grand Prix
Message-ID: <037201cc3dc9$6d8deb80$48a9c280$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorsport/8615663/Driving-the-Formula-O
ne-British-Grand-Prix.html

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 08:32:29 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:32:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OshqkB5K-Sy=CQr7QEGYgGN-6M4_2G5xhKjP2RXmEA2aw@mail.gmail.com>

Did you drive it with the heater on?  If that reduces the overheating, there
may be a clogged bypass hose.  Allowing the coolant to travel thru the
heater would bypass the bypass hose...maybe...

Or it could be a defective electric fan thermostat...but only if it has an
electric fan.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
> Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
> before
> I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
> nstalled
> new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
> except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above O
> on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
> to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
> block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
> start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
> aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
> then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
> oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
> haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
> shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly
>
>
>
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc77mg at gmail.com

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Mon Jul 11 08:45:00 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:45:00 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 50, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1310148005.10002.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1310148005.10002.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CAN4UhU+w2fqMsCNcXU5pL8QJQP+MCo4SBKD5G58Ee1v2r-5tLw@mail.gmail.com>

subject - the car that drives itself

 worth a look

*http://tinyurl.com/66bn2q7*
 Did you know that in the UK  it is illegal to ride a Segway on the pavement
(side walk)  and illegal on the road too !

Alan
Warwick UK

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jul 11 09:35:08 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:35:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <CAMEj5OshqkB5K-Sy=CQr7QEGYgGN-6M4_2G5xhKjP2RXmEA2aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110711153508.SBTSX.17318.root@cdptpa-web08-z01>

With the needle hovering at the "o" and the "a" it might be perfectly normal.  You would need a real temperature gauge to tell for sure.

A head gasket leak can only show up as overheating, or possible bubbles in the coolant, and not any other kind of leaking.  It depends on where the headgasket fails as to what intermixes with what.

If it is overheating when driving and not when sitting still, then that sounds like something is inhibiting the flow of coolant, or possibly the radiator is dirty inside or outside and isn't transferring heat well enough.  For sure if it doesn't overheat when sitting still then the fans are working fine.  There could be a problem with the water pump, or the suction hose could be collapsing.


> > In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
> > Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
> > before
> > I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
> > nstalled
> > new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
> > except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above O
> > on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
> > to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
> > block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
> > start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
> > aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
> > then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
> > oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
> > haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
> > shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 11 09:39:53 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:39:53 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Disappointing news and a 50th question
Message-ID: <20110711.093953.14858.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

Well, the MKII won't be making it to the 50th- It lunched first gear
yesterday- very disappointing after all of the work and time that I've
invested. The trans was the only thing that I didn't rebuild- I guess its
next. I will be trailering the '58 since I want to be sure to have SOME fun
while there.
An associated question though, Will helmets be required for the autocross? I
want to be prepared if need be.

Pictures of the MKII are at:
http://s734.photobucket.com/albums/ww349/bugeye8016/MK%20II%20reassembly/
It looks great, just needs a really good cut and buff, and a transmission!

Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016

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From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 11 09:55:05 2011
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (John Jenkins)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:55:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <84263424-D66C-40D9-AD73-626527453106@comcast.net>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
	<84263424-D66C-40D9-AD73-626527453106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <301CDC22-B8E3-498C-8228-1E759B23F490@comcast.net>

Do a pressure test. Be sure to watch for fluctuations(surges) in pressure.
Surges mean head gasket. Loss of pressure should make leak easier to find. Cap
could be bad. Do pressure test on cap.
Green spitfidget and others

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> hmm.. air pocket or worn impeller ?
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Leo wrote:
>
>> In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
>> Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
> before
>> I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
> nstalled
>> new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
>> except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above
O
>> on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
>> to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
>> block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
>> start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
>> aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
>> then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
>> oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
>> haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
>> shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly
>>
>>
>>
>> Leo
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 10:25:28 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:25:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Disappointing news and a 50th question
In-Reply-To: <20110711.093953.14858.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110711.093953.14858.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hyFh_H3CY3h_sz6Bu+j4CujfqTdUgTTZurBqKUynKs2EQ@mail.gmail.com>

> An associated question though, Will helmets be required for the autocross? I
> want to be prepared if need be.

Yes, please bring your helmets!
David L

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Mon Jul 11 10:57:30 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:57:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <301CDC22-B8E3-498C-8228-1E759B23F490@comcast.net>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
	<84263424-D66C-40D9-AD73-626527453106@comcast.net>
	<301CDC22-B8E3-498C-8228-1E759B23F490@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4E1B2B7A.1000800@croakingfrog.net>

May not be anything ... but as a Ford owner, I've had numerous temp
problems. Stayed cooler than normal at idle. At speed normal temps. At,
for example, stopping at a red light, the temp would automagically  drop
well below normal. At take-off. back top normal. Never over-heated though.

Local Ford Dealer said the problem was impeller on w/pump and it's
disintegrated. Replaced w/pump ($700.00 ). Still had problems.
Turns out the water jackets in cast iron block would "flake rust" into
the heater core.  Back flushed heater core and that solved the problem.
Heater core back flush in now an annual ritual. No more temp problems.

Chap
*****

On 7/11/2011 11:55 AM, John Jenkins wrote:
> Do a pressure test. Be sure to watch for fluctuations(surges) in pressure.
> Surges mean head gasket. Loss of pressure should make leak easier to find. Cap
> could be bad. Do pressure test on cap.
> Green spitfidget and others
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> hmm.. air pocket or worn impeller ?
>>
>> Lester
>>
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Leo wrote:
>>
>>> In between dr visits and stuff I am trying to fix a problem on a 1998 F700
>>> Box truck with a 7.0 (429) MFI engine.  The truch as set for 6 months
>> before
>>> I got it and had to do a major tune up, new in tank fuel pump and I
>> nstalled
>>> new thermostats (has two, 165 degree and 180 degree.  Truck runs great now
>>> except for one isse.  It cam idle for hours and the temp never gets above
> O
>>> on the normal on the guage.  Drive it 2 or 3 miles and the reading gets up
>>> to the A on normal.  Radiator was clean inside, no crud flushed out of the
>>> block, and has 50/50 antifreexe mix in it.  Soooo.. Where would all of you
>>> start on trying to isolate the problem.  Tomorrow I am going to install an
>>> aftermarket temp guage to get an exat temperature reading.  If it is high
>>> then what next?  If it had a blown headgasket wouldn't I see water in the
>>> oil or oil in the radiator?  It never makes the 13lb cap spew wter and I
>>> haven't pushed it that far anyways.  Ideas and possible causes and trouble
>>> shooting ideas would be appreciated greatly
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Leo
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 13:53:35 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:53:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Disappointing news and a 50th question
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hyFh_H3CY3h_sz6Bu+j4CujfqTdUgTTZurBqKUynKs2EQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20110711.093953.14858.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
	<CACJx3hyFh_H3CY3h_sz6Bu+j4CujfqTdUgTTZurBqKUynKs2EQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hx=DZOQMcS3i5POVshJSMtYVQ_RxF+tXQJKxAohKyFzdQ@mail.gmail.com>

This autocross is going to be a fun event whether you are driving it
or just watching. It will take place on the Motorplex Track at Road
America (track layout at
http://roadamerica.com/userfiles/image/information_maps/map_motorplex_580w.jpg).
This is their gokart track and is set into the side of a hill, so
visibility is great. We will be running the same course that the
Morgan Club used for the MOTRAH (Morgan, Triumph, Austin-Healey)
Challenge, which uses arrows to tell you which way to turn rather than
cones. This not only minimizes course workers, but also makes it more
of a solo road race. Only one car will be on the course at a time and
there will be a slight delay between cars in order to record the
times, but we have three hours or so to get in as many runs as
possible.

So, if you have a helmet that you can loan out for the autocross event
at the 50th, please bring it along. One extra helmet in the car is not
a big deal, but trying to fit several in a Spridget along with
luggage, tent, etc. gets to be a bit of a challenge, if I even had
several to load. I don't want anyone to miss out on the opportunity to
participate for lack of a helmet.
David L

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 11 14:25:35 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:25:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Obama's New Gun Control Regulations
Message-ID: <04a501cc4008$b2a86c40$17f944c0$@net>

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/11/obama-s-new-gun-control-reg
ulations-exclusive.html?om_rid=Nsfl7m
<http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/11/obama-s-new-gun-control-re
gulations-exclusive.html?om_rid=Nsfl7m&om_mid=_BOG05LB8cSpV2K>
&om_mid=_BOG05LB8cSpV2K

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jul 11 15:25:23 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:25:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FYI--Obama's New Gun Control Regulations
In-Reply-To: <04a501cc4008$b2a86c40$17f944c0$@net>
Message-ID: <20110711212523.L4Y3J.137230.root@cdptpa-web21-z01>

They may wish they had kept completely out of this before it's all over.  The administration ENCOURAGED straw buying in order to build a case against gun buyers, then when the weapons went to Mexico and started being used against US law enforcement it all backfired on them.  The brown stuff is hitting the rotating air mover and Congress is starting to figure it all out.  As the ATF and Justice department resist inquiries from Congress, it will just make Congress mad.  I don't know where it will end but it won't end the way Obama wants it to.


> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/11/obama-s-new-gun-control-reg
> ulations-exclusive.html?om_rid=Nsfl7m
> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/11/obama-s-new-gun-control-re
> gulations-exclusive.html?om_rid=Nsfl7m&om_mid=_BOG05LB8cSpV2K>
> &om_mid=_BOG05LB8cSpV2K

From kmappley at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 15:36:51 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:36:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach question [LBC!]?
Message-ID: <CANv6dsAPTtmZUZmZrtD4UDd6jqOYj6JpL0EVFY0QyMVsxnFzMw@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't had much luck with the RV1 tach in the Mk 3 Sprite Mk2 Midget so
am thinking of putting the later tach  guts into the RV1 can. I know Frank
swapped different tach internals around. Whats the site for him doing so? Is
the later tach guts worth the swap or should I use parts from somewhere
else? I'm using Datsun "match box" electronic ignition BTW.

Thanks,
Kurt.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 16:30:47 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:30:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAERh1b0BqpvcEARwR2Oma31oLEMfCTLiSSrJSNOKTMWVA@mail.gmail.com>

Did you check the T-stats in boiling water (on the stove) to ensure they
both open?

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 11 17:06:06 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:06:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 50, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <CAN4UhU+w2fqMsCNcXU5pL8QJQP+MCo4SBKD5G58Ee1v2r-5tLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.15.1310148005.10002.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<CAN4UhU+w2fqMsCNcXU5pL8QJQP+MCo4SBKD5G58Ee1v2r-5tLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAGZJT-9w2SqgL1y14J6CApU-ztYH9=4GLHY1=dVmnv1Xw@mail.gmail.com>

Hackers are going to have fun with this!

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:45 AM, EASTJONES alan <
alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> subject - the car that drives itself
>
>  worth a look
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/66bn2q7*
>  Did you know that in the UK  it is illegal to ride a Segway on the
> pavement
> (side walk)  and illegal on the road too !
>
> Alan
> Warwick UK

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul 11 17:20:03 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:20:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach question [LBC!]?
In-Reply-To: <CANv6dsAPTtmZUZmZrtD4UDd6jqOYj6JpL0EVFY0QyMVsxnFzMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANv6dsAPTtmZUZmZrtD4UDd6jqOYj6JpL0EVFY0QyMVsxnFzMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006A05E5-367A-47DC-821D-004B188C4D82@chartermi.net>

http://www.members.tripod.com/PDLJMPR/techin.htm#Electric

Rick

PS - Kurt, the manifold arrived today.  Now all I have to do is install it.
:-)



Sent from my iPad

On Jul 11, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Kurt Appley <kmappley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't had much luck with the RV1 tach in the Mk 3 Sprite Mk2 Midget so
> am thinking of putting the later tach  guts into the RV1 can. I know Frank
> swapped different tach internals around. Whats the site for him doing so?
Is
> the later tach guts worth the swap or should I use parts from somewhere
> else? I'm using Datsun "match box" electronic ignition BTW.
>
> Thanks,
> Kurt.
> _______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Jul 11 17:36:26 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:36:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Disappointing news and a 50th question
In-Reply-To: <20110711.093953.14858.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110711.093953.14858.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1253339721.20110711163626@pacifier.com>

Hello Mark,

     What a shame... as I recall  though, your 58 was one of the
     sweetest sounding Sprites I've ever heard....

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Microwaves frizz your heir.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 11 20:42:40 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:42:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 AUSTIN BUGEYE SPRITE$ 4,500 (NFI)
Message-ID: <04e701cc403d$5ea47280$1bed5780$@net>

http://www.recycler.com/details/-35598619/classic-cars-1959-austin-bugeye-sp
rite 

Buster

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jul 11 20:51:15 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:51:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High engine temp NON Spridget
In-Reply-To: <667070761.20110710221242@pacifier.com>
References: <006801cc3f80$52f16fa0$f8d44ee0$@net>
	<667070761.20110710221242@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <00df01cc403e$91b21960$b5164c20$@net>

Anybody want to have a Texas Oshit!! LOL but not on a Sprite or Midget.
Head gasker issues on the trucks motor so off comes the heads.  Not fun as
there is a lot of ancillaries to remove off that size of truck but at least
it has a front tilt hood!! While everyone else is having fun is WI I will be
stuck at home with wifes medical issues and a sick truck to boot.  Hey,
adversity only makes you stronger they say and I say I am strong enough
already. LOL

Thanks for all the suggestions guys!!

Leo

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 06:05:45 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:05:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: any spridgeteers looking to supplement their gas
 coming from southern IL?
References: <CAJDG4qGxf1aGVuD4a2hJ6vnUdL3Zt3RecESh0jUFnKc7KNnrTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-3655004931855759520@unknownmsgid>

Former Lister William Thompson of Racine (not WST) asked me to post this
request in case any of you were coming through Central IL with an empty
trailer hitch.
David L

Begin forwarded message:

*Subject:* *any spridgeteers looking to supplement their gas coming from
southern IL?*

I bought this trailer, thinking I would be down in the area picking up a
miata. well thats 3 months ago lol I need to get it and just dont really
want to drive all that way for it ;) maybe you could post this for me on the
mg meet site and I could make a mutually beneficial arrangement with some
one. I would happily meet them at I94 while they were on their way to
Elkhart, and would pay a fair price as well

http://www.uship.com/shipment/coleman-caboose-trailer/12059168/

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 12 09:25:34 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:25:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive restoration!
Message-ID: <201107120825765.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

http://tinyurl.com/656kkgw


But... at least it's Concourse


Ready for the 50th?

Me neither

Peter C 

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 09:31:54 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:31:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
Message-ID: <CAF3a=7KtqviWK=FxM_bTGxhu1AkCXsTaNMEWhM+HLfN0iREzUw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Well my clutch problem is back.  It seems that when the bugeye sits for a
week and is cold it works for about 20 minutes. After that it fails to fully
disengage, making it impossible to shift once stopped..  I will check a few
more things this weekend, but I am mentally getting ready to bite the bullet
and just pull the lump out and see what is wrong.

This will lead to replacing the cam, which I should have done initially.

Question is which cam?

Engine is a 1275 with +30 over pistons and stock high compression head.
Exhust is into a 3-1 header with dual HS2 carbs.

Looking for good drivability with more umph.

>From reading around it seems that the following cams are all reasonable
choices, but some of the information I found is inconsistent.  Would love to
hear if anyone is using any of the following: Having a real hard time
differentiating.

Kent 266 or mp266
Kent 276
Piper 270
Swift SW5-07


Thanks

Steven

green bugeye with a problem clutch!!!

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Tue Jul 12 10:23:48 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:23:48 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: GET BACK TO ME
In-Reply-To: <iksat006_4e1c4c5ce7b3a@webmail.iksatra.se>
References: <iksat006_4e1c4c5ce7b3a@webmail.iksatra.se>
Message-ID: <CAN4UhUL8KVAmyVumyHPjM2+5rW_vuL+0OhKyVJXRTYFRQuWbPQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Subject: GET BACK TO ME
To:





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From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 10:50:13 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:50:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
In-Reply-To: <CAF3a=7KtqviWK=FxM_bTGxhu1AkCXsTaNMEWhM+HLfN0iREzUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF3a=7KtqviWK=FxM_bTGxhu1AkCXsTaNMEWhM+HLfN0iREzUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OtN9K814mEBBWq6TWCj2pYsiL79=xunMfzSyQ07-jzhQw@mail.gmail.com>

Steven Guterman said -

"This will lead to replacing the cam, which I should have done initially.

"Question is which cam?"


I'll beat Peter C to it.  You should replace them all!

Allen Hefner
 Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 12 12:23:15 2011
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:23:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
In-Reply-To: <CAF3a=7KtqviWK=FxM_bTGxhu1AkCXsTaNMEWhM+HLfN0iREzUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1310494995.41690.YahooMailClassic@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Steve,
There wasn't a high compression head. The difference between the high and low
compression engines was the piston dish volume. In any case the 266 cam would
be the best choice for the street. We spend far more time below 4K than above,
and being able to pull away smoothly from 1K without racing the engine is a
beautiful thing.
Regarding the clutch, I would spend some more time diagnosing the hydraulics
and linkage before pulling the lump.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 11:31 AM

Hi all,

Well my clutch problem is back.  It seems that when the bugeye sits for a
week and is cold it works for about 20 minutes. After that it fails to fully
disengage, making it impossible to shift once stopped..  I will check a few
more things this weekend, but I am mentally getting ready to bite the bullet
and just pull the lump out and see what is wrong.

This will lead to replacing the cam, which I should have done initially.

Question is which cam?

Engine is a 1275 with +30 over pistons and stock high compression head.
Exhust is into a 3-1 header with dual HS2 carbs.

Looking for good drivability with more umph.

>From reading around it seems that the following cams are all reasonable
choices, but some of the information I found is inconsistent.  Would love to
hear if anyone is using any of the following: Having a real hard time
differentiating.

Kent 266 or mp266
Kent 276
Piper 270
Swift SW5-07


Thanks

Steven

green bugeye with a problem clutch!!!
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 12 13:30:31 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:30:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
Message-ID: <132d80.6f7f504f.3b4dfad6@aol.com>

I wouldn't bother with the Kent 266 as it's too mild.  The Kent 276  and 
Piper 270 are similar but the Kent might be ground to a higher  standard.  
Since you're in the USA why not buy 'merican and give David  Anton at 
_www.aptfast.com_ (http://www.aptfast.com)  a call as he  grinds his own cams.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 12/07/2011 17:15:56 GMT Daylight Time,  
an5.sprite at gmail.com writes:

Kent 266  or mp266
Kent 276
Piper 270
Swift SW5-07

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Jul 12 15:55:47 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:55:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Party  Midget
Message-ID: <F4B7B570-88A1-4751-BC81-DA01D84DE06D@chartermi.net>

The '79 Party Midget is my first Spridget with a folding top.  What is the
procedure for "folding" the top without buggering up the rear windows?

Rick
Almost ready to go...

From nases at verizon.net  Tue Jul 12 18:09:08 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:09:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
Message-ID: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>

When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do I use for a rear tie down
point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so that's out.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 18:23:39 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:23:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Party Midget
In-Reply-To: <F4B7B570-88A1-4751-BC81-DA01D84DE06D@chartermi.net>
References: <F4B7B570-88A1-4751-BC81-DA01D84DE06D@chartermi.net>
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
The '79 Party Midget is my first Spridget with a folding top.  What is
the procedure for "folding" the top without buggering up the rear
windows?
 _______________________________________________
Undo the clamps in the front as well as the snaps on the flaps at the
top of the windscreen. Unsnap all of the fasteners and undo any velcro
that is in place. Watch for snaps on the top bows on the inside! Fold
the top down with the hood pulled out over the boot.. Fold the wing
windows into the hood material and then fold the whole thing up over
the bows. Install the boot cover and enjoy!

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jul 12 18:49:22 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:49:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
References: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1310518162.57308.YahooMailRC@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Get short straps (10"?) from a trailer supply that have links on each end and 
put them around the spring where it attaches to the rear axle. Your tie-down 
then attaches to the links. I use this all the time. If you need pics. let me 
know.

 jay




________________________________
From: Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net>
To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, July 12, 2011 8:09:08 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye

When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do I use for a rear tie down
point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so that's out.

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 19:02:36 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:02:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
Message-ID: <mailman.10.1310518973.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Phil,

You have a couple of choices:

You thread the tie down through the wheels if they are not solid

You can also wrap a tie down over the circumference of the tires (best way)

Finally, you should be able to hook onto the welded bracket on the axle that connects the spring to the axle.

Good luck

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Philip Nase
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
Sent: Jul 12, 2011 8:09 PM

When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do I use for a rear tie down
point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so that's out.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 19:02:52 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:02:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
References: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
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Hi Phil,

I used the rear axle, and it worked fine.

C

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do I use for a rear tie down
> point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so that's out.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 19:07:19 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:07:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: any spridgeteers looking to supplement their gas
 coming from southern IL?
References: <CAJDG4qGO3ws6dbNDupnVXjU_F7wRptukEssTYLmsN0eU3z-QgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-3193161284105017379@unknownmsgid>

> found a guy to pick this up ;)

From lmacy at mac.com  Tue Jul 12 19:16:37 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:16:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
References: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C6C2D345-CF78-48DA-A0CD-27547FAE2236@mac.com>

Phil,

First you have to tell folks you are towing the Bugeye on a flat bed trailer. ;-) 

Now do you have any way to run a strap through the wheels?? I do not recall what wheels you have on the car. The tow truck dudes strap over the top of the wheels, but they have a speciality strap to do that.

Larry

On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Philip Nase wrote:

> When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do I use for a rear tie down
> point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so that's out.
> 
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!"

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Jul 12 20:02:17 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:02:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
References: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <9269DDC9EEFA48DEBE1C0F27F37D320C@Dell9200>

Phil,

I use axel straps over the spring just in front of the axel and take the 
right strap to my left tie down on the trailer and left strap to the right 
side.  That holds the car back and keeps the car from sliding sideways. 
Sure wish I was packing up for a trip to Wisconsin.

Mark
Nashville


----- Original Message ----- 

When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do I use for a rear tie down
point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so that's out.

Phil 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 04:19:35 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:19:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
In-Reply-To: <1310168758.85286.YahooMailClassic@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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	<1310168758.85286.YahooMailClassic@web161219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Wow sounds like a real nice caravan, if I can get up early enough I'll head
over and try and get some shots or a video of you guys heading out. Looking
forward to seeing the new wheels Frankie. Have a safe trip guys.
Lin



On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:45 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Agreed.  Jay and I hit that one together while going to an Indy F1 race.
> Those ACD cars are works of art and you can spend hours looking at the
> details.
>
> Rick
>
>
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
> --- On Fri, 7/8/11, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>
> From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 50th
> To: "Frankie Clarici 4th" <clarici at verizon.net>, "Spridgets list"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 8:14 AM
>
> Frankie,
>
> Have fun at the ACD Museum. It might be one of thee most impressive auto
> museums, not to mention the building that houses it.
>
>  jay
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Frankie Clarici 4th <clarici at verizon.net>
> To: Spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>;
> EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 7:19:16 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
>
> FYI
>
> We are leaving next sat from NJ hopefully around 6:30-7am going to be
> driving
> rt80. We plan on staying somewhere between Toledo, OH and Auburn, IN.
> Sunday
> morning we are going to stop at the Auburn Cord And Deusenburg museum. Then
> on
> the road again. I am going to travel in my new Eurovan along with my mom,
> sister, wife and son. We are trailering dads Speedwell Sprite out. Probably
> going to be lots of stops but if anyone wants to travel or meet up let me
> know.
>
> Frankie
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 04:43:49 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:43:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - MK2 Sprite only $16,995!!! (nfi)
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcKXBCi_4wz2eX2RZrqRiT-P4ycvdWJ8ye40KzKWd0RjZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcKXBCi_4wz2eX2RZrqRiT-P4ycvdWJ8ye40KzKWd0RjZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVf9Hg=B9CyFRt5FdF3RFA+8SsM1EWaVwi-dhm2vAqe3wA@mail.gmail.com>

Rick & List,
Terry Horler said in a snail mail letter to me regarding the MKII Sprites
back in 06 "Today the Sprite MKII is fairly rare in any case, a fact that is
not always reflected in resale prices." I think in time our MKII Sprites
will dramatically increase their resale prices but it will be a while before
it does. Although I strongly doubt they will exceed the Bugeye.

Although nice to know you can still get a Bugeye driver for under 7K;
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/austin_healey/bugeye/1208339.html



Wish I was going to the Midget 50th,

Lin



On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/ctd/2479313437.html
>
> Wow - makes me feel pretty good about mine.
> Mine also has mis-matched front fenders like this one.
> This one does look a bit nicer, but might be a little over priced?
>
> Rick (mk2 GOLD) Bastedo
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From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 05:18:57 2011
From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 04:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
References: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1310555937.2415.YahooMailRC@web112708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

phil,

i use axle straps that are short straps with a protective sleeve on
them  .   
they have d rings on both ends and can safely be wrapped around the
lower axle 
where the spring attaches. (note , tie down front of your car at
the lower king 
pin trunion area closest to the wheel.)  always cross tie the
car to keep the 
car from moving right or left.    many choose to tie straight
back in rear , but 
i've had numerous times of our wonderfull interstate roads
perfect surface give 
cause to have what i thought securly tied down
......move much more than you 
might think!  you'd be suprised how much a car
can "crab" right or left if not 
properly secured and you do not want to find
this out with your car!  

i've got a bit of interstate and back road
experience with an open trailer both 
solid  deck and open center deck.  
look at m&r's  site for examples of what i described above.    there are also
ratcheting tie down straps that have a d ring sewn into the end about 10
inches 
or so that actually hook back into itself working similarly to the
axle strap 
that can be purchased seperately.

the over the wheel type tie
down works best if you have "e" track as the anchor 
 for the ratchet .
always tie down the wheel or the axle.    if you attempt to tie down the frame
or body , the car slackens and tightens the tie down straps on bumps and
usually 
either disconnects the strap or chain or starts a sawing or denting
where the 
strap or chain is against the frame/body.   


axles and or wheels
stay in contact with trailer deck.   let the body bounce all 
it wants on it's
suspension for the duration of the tow.    


________________________________
From: Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net>
To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, July 12, 2011 8:09:08 PM
Subject:
[Spridgets] towing a Bugeye

When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do
I use for a rear tie down
point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so
that's out.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
_______________________________________________

From bkitterer at me.com  Wed Jul 13 06:21:56 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:21:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
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References: <944FC78F-B435-4439-A11D-F54257B8E098@verizon.net>
	<1310555937.2415.YahooMailRC@web112708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F4F2D5A1-81D7-4A25-9B8E-5803158028B7@me.com>

Phil,

Tying down the wheels leaving the suspension active is the preferred method.  I use fairly in expensive tie down straps from CostCo or any other source. I use two straps per wheel, one forward the other to the rear.  I have. Wire wheels and wrap the straps around the knock off hub.  For disk wheels the straps can go through the slots over a rag protect the rim.

On one trip we lost the axel on the trailer, the trailer with car tipped up 45 degrees before coming to rest right side up.  The car did not move!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2011, at 7:18 AM, charles christ <crusaderchuck at yahoo.com> wrote:

> phil,
> 
> i use axle straps that are short straps with a protective sleeve on
> them  .   
> they have d rings on both ends and can safely be wrapped around the
> lower axle 
> where the spring attaches. (note , tie down front of your car at
> the lower king 
> pin trunion area closest to the wheel.)  always cross tie the
> car to keep the 
> car from moving right or left.    many choose to tie straight
> back in rear , but 
> i've had numerous times of our wonderfull interstate roads
> perfect surface give 
> cause to have what i thought securly tied down
> ......move much more than you 
> might think!  you'd be suprised how much a car
> can "crab" right or left if not 
> properly secured and you do not want to find
> this out with your car!  
> 
> i've got a bit of interstate and back road
> experience with an open trailer both 
> solid  deck and open center deck.  
> look at m&r's  site for examples of what i described above.    there are also
> ratcheting tie down straps that have a d ring sewn into the end about 10
> inches 
> or so that actually hook back into itself working similarly to the
> axle strap 
> that can be purchased seperately.
> 
> the over the wheel type tie
> down works best if you have "e" track as the anchor 
> for the ratchet .
> always tie down the wheel or the axle.    if you attempt to tie down the frame
> or body , the car slackens and tightens the tie down straps on bumps and
> usually 
> either disconnects the strap or chain or starts a sawing or denting
> where the 
> strap or chain is against the frame/body.   
> 
> 
> axles and or wheels
> stay in contact with trailer deck.   let the body bounce all 
> it wants on it's
> suspension for the duration of the tow.    
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net>
> To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, July 12, 2011 8:09:08 PM
> Subject:
> [Spridgets] towing a Bugeye
> 
> When towing a quarter elliptic spring car what do
> I use for a rear tie down
> point?  My brake lines run on top of the rear so
> that's out.
> 
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jul 13 08:59:58 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:59:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Midget 50th Travellers... INFO
Message-ID: <201107130759544.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Well, we're about as organized as we can be. I'm sure there will be 
some "adjustments".

Mission control has moved from Dodge City to Wisconsin.

Should anyone encounter difficulties or need further instruction, 
either with directions or mechanical assistance, I am offering up my 
cell phone number. Feel free to call me anytime, or text me. My 
business is located 2 hours West of the Show in Madison, WI. I will 
be at the Show, early Monday morning, but am willing to help anyone 
in transit. I have lots of resources.

My phone (608) 444-6906

See you all safe and sound Monday!

Peter C

Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison
2517 Seiferth Rd.
Madison  WI  USA  53716-3302
US WATS (800) 362-1025
(608) 223-9400
(608) 223-9403 fax

www.worldwideimportautoparts.com
www.nosimport.com

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 13 10:51:26 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:51:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 50th
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVc7ri5+zoqokQ0FjVmV962+g-FDPAb1vNq_hQD-MJL--A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1296864942.514441.1310575886740.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

If anyone is planning a route along I-80, plan a stop in Elko, NV if possible. I can arrange up to four hotel rooms and meals for everyone, all free, which I am told is a pretty good price.

Just off list for my phone number and let me know your plans.

Kate

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jul 13 13:24:51 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:24:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <58863443.20110713122331@pacifier.com>
References: <AANLkTik_jbWFpTV=Wts7vL=6OVitUsRCTo6zQw+Mcq4K@mail.gmail.com>
	<58863443.20110713122331@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <16111074.20110713122451@pacifier.com>

This is a forwarded message
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 12:23:31 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" UPDATE

===8<==============Original message text===============
Hello Jim,

     my back went out, taking my leg with it. My foot doesn't work
     properly, the doctor is running tests of all kinds. I can't make
     the trip. Dang. A year and a half in planning, the car is packed
     except for my clothing, and I'm not going...

     Was hoping to see ya there, but it's not going to happen..

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Excuse me while I sharpen my tongue. 

===8<===========End of original message text===========



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jul 13 13:54:22 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:54:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event"
 UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <16111074.20110713122451@pacifier.com>
References: <AANLkTik_jbWFpTV=Wts7vL=6OVitUsRCTo6zQw+Mcq4K@mail.gmail.com>
	<58863443.20110713122331@pacifier.com>
	<16111074.20110713122451@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <1310586862.80190.YahooMailRC@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Bill,

Hope you aren't in too much pain and you get this resolved. I had a very serious 
back problem some years ago so I know what you are going through.

Hang in there.

 jay




________________________________
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: Kurt Appley <kmappley at gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, July 13, 2011 3:24:51 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" UPDATE

This is a forwarded message
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 12:23:31 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" UPDATE

===8<==============Original message text===============
Hello Jim,

     my back went out, taking my leg with it. My foot doesn't work
     properly, the doctor is running tests of all kinds. I can't make
     the trip. Dang. A year and a half in planning, the car is packed
     except for my clothing, and I'm not going...

     Was hoping to see ya there, but it's not going to happen..

-- 
Best regards,
Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

'66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

  Excuse me while I sharpen my tongue. 

===8<===========End of original message text===========

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul 13 14:13:24 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:13:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - MK2 Sprite only $16,995!!! (nfi)
Message-ID: <33b93.32987e0c.3b4f5664@aol.com>

He still hasn't got e-mail?
 
In a message dated 13/07/2011 12:12:14 GMT Daylight Time,  
grunthaner at gmail.com writes:

Terry  Horler said in a snail mail letter 

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 16:01:38 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:01:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Peter and Rick's Excellent Adventure!
Message-ID: <CABWjhcJGBxFE=Yo1bUnvgHmwN3kk2heXfQrcKxPq=AAr76NE9w@mail.gmail.com>

I've started a blog which I hope to post to every chance we get along the
way to Elkhart Lake.
If you like you can follow along here:

http://frogeyemidget.blogspot.com

Now - the wife just called and she's broken her car and the washing machine,
she was just warning me that these things usually come in threes.
I told her to enjoy her walks to the laundry mat...

Rick (I could be in trouble now) Bastedo

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 17:19:59 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:19:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer bolt, to loctite or not to loctite?
Message-ID: <CAM6-Rjd=DjKODd5koAji3uW8P739Mz1twt5nnyMxg98dX9su4w@mail.gmail.com>

What is the list consensus on loctiting the harmonic balancer bolt on a
moderately warm 1275?  Or, as with many fasteners on our cars do we just
torque to the specified value and leave it at that?  This is an aftermarket
bolt that is longer and tougher than the original.
Hal

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Jul 13 17:39:04 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:39:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Peter and Rick's Excellent Adventure!
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJGBxFE=Yo1bUnvgHmwN3kk2heXfQrcKxPq=AAr76NE9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1310301310.477179.1310600343979.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Rick,

I already belong to too many 'social' networks to join one more :)
But I've bookmarked the page... considered me "friend'ed"  ;^D

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Rick Bastedo" <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you like you can follow along here:
 
> http://frogeyemidget.blogspot.com

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jul 13 19:18:31 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:18:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dave Woerpel
Message-ID: <B3BB1DE9-C2AC-43E1-B25C-E06341A20AE8@ado13.com>

I'm trying to reach Dave Woerpel at dwoerpel at wi.net and it says the mailbox is
full.

Anybody got a better address?

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Jul 13 19:31:24 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:31:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Midget 50th Travelers...Travel PHOTOS
In-Reply-To: <201107130759544.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201107130759544.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <002501cc41c5$be906a80$3bb13f80$@rr.com>

Have any great snapshots from the journey we can use for the banquet?

Message/text them to us via AT&T to 4148522795

Or email them to mg50 at wi.rr.com

See you soon!

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 20:22:38 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:22:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer bolt,
 to loctite or not to  loctite?
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-Rjd=DjKODd5koAji3uW8P739Mz1twt5nnyMxg98dX9su4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM6-Rjd=DjKODd5koAji3uW8P739Mz1twt5nnyMxg98dX9su4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-mpJ2DYAf62DzuWWsvzq8KcA03O9C7Pxvw6n0LNRvzbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Having recently gone through a LocTite seminar I would say LocTite is
good stuff.  Use the blue and you should be fine.
Of course, many have done it without and I don't think there are any
problems with that, either.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 13 21:26:32 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:26:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
Message-ID: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just watched news...Calling for mid to upper 90s next week....ugh.
 
RS
"That
which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jul 13 21:35:30 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:35:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer bolt,
 to loctite or not to  loctite?
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7-mpJ2DYAf62DzuWWsvzq8KcA03O9C7Pxvw6n0LNRvzbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110714033530.DUZ5J.1157.root@cdptpa-web11-z01>

I have pulled off and put on very many harmonic balancers, mostly on American
pushrod engines.  I have never had a problem with them nor heard of a problem.
We put the balancer on, torque the bolt to its spec, and that's the end of
it.

I have also owned a few foreign DOHC engines (for a V6 or V8 engine this means
4 camshafts).  I have heard of problems with these engines and had this
problem with one that I owned.  A pushrod engine has one camshaft with a
relatively short chain but an engine with 4 OHC's has a lot of cams to move
and long belts or chains.  My engine as it got a lot of miles on it started
running poorly.  It just had much less power then when it was newer.  I tried
a lot of things and never found a solution.  Then another person on the
internet posted a story about their engine.  It made sense to me so I checked
mine and sure enough it had the same problem.  All of these engines have cam
drive gears on the crankshaft, these gears slip onto the crankshaft snout and
are held in place by a woodruff key, and clamped into position by the harmonic
balancer being bolted on.  The woodruff key plus friction transfers rotational
force to the gear and rotates the cam(s).  If there is any slack in the system
then the gear can vibrate back and forth and eventually wear the key and
keyway and allow the gear to move back and forth.  It was easy to check my
engine- I rotated the crankshaft slightly and observed that the cams didn't
move.  My cams, and thus ignition timing as well, were retarded about 20
degrees or so.  I Put in a new key and cam gear and the engine ran fine after
that.  I don't know why I had never seen this type of thing before, but I
theorized that the long cam drive belt might have introduced some kind of
harmonics into the system that caused the cam gear to want to rock back and
forth.

So I think you should torque the balancer bolt to specs, but I'm not sure that
loctite is required.


---- derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Having recently gone through a LocTite seminar I would say LocTite is
> good stuff.  Use the blue and you should be fine.
> Of course, many have done it without and I don't think there are any
> problems with that, either.
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Jul 13 21:53:33 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:53:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] The Beaver
Message-ID: <1310615613.77270.YahooMailNeo@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

A little bit off topic, but we don't get off topic much do we?  A cute video
about the Beaver.  No, not the TV show and NOT what the rest of you miscreants
are thinking.  On topic, I wish I was going to the 50th, but my BN2 is finally
getting painted and I have to use my three weeks vacation to ride herd on the
flake, er, ah, I mean painter to make sure it comes out O.K.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w_v0k57KhE

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02
Heritage Springer.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jul 13 22:12:25 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer bolt,
 to loctite or not to   loctite?
In-Reply-To: <20110714033530.DUZ5J.1157.root@cdptpa-web11-z01>
Message-ID: <CA43BAB9.1A877%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I have never had a problem with them nor heard of a problem.
I guess you haven't tried a Honda yet??

From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 22:34:34 2011
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:34:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001601cc41df$60b181a0$221484e0$@com>

We can always set up a sprinkler in the car wash area to run through and
cool down, or have water hose fights.  

See ya up there, Ron.

Neil Anderson
Riding navigator in my buddy's Sprite


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:27 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...

Just watched news...Calling for mid to upper 90s next week....ugh.
 
RS
"That
which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
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From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 23:19:16 2011
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Driver Education Track Day
Message-ID: <001a01cc41e5$95693cc0$c03bb640$@com>

The Midwest Region of the Austin-Healey Club invites owners of vintage
sports cars to attend their 2d Driver Education Day at Blackhawk Farms
Raceway, South Beloit, IL on Friday, August 5th.  

 

Our first event was held after the Healey Club's National Conclave last July
with great success and loads of fun.  Blackhawk is a challenging club racer
track that is great for Sprites and Midgets.  Spridget list members Ron
Soave, and Wm. Severin Thompson, along with others, have raced there over
the years.  

 

We have special dispensation from Blackhawk Farms that let open sports cars
drive on the track without roll bars or cages.  Seat belts and helmets are
required though.  For newbies to the track experience, an instructor can
ride along to help you learn the intricacies of track driving more quickly,
or to just learn your way around Blackhawk.  But, don't expect to be smooth
and quick after just a few laps.

 

You won't find this experience of track time at the price of $115 per car
(including trackside lunch) at too many track locations.   A mandatory
classroom session after lunch precedes the on-track time.  There will be no
timed laps and no wheel-to-wheel racing.  This is a driver education day, to
learn track driving and have a great time!

 

The Midwest Region reserves the right to let approved more modern cars
attend to fill out our minimum car requirement.  

 

Please take a look at our informational page and registration form here:

http://www.wrcresearch.com/trackday  and more info about Blackhawk Farms
here:  http://www.blackhawkfarms.com/  

 

We will be at the Midget 50th, so we can answer more questions there.  We
would like to see you attend!

 

Neil Anderson

Pres. Midwest Region, AHCA

Bill Cantrall

Midwest Region, Driving Events Director

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Thu Jul 14 04:45:13 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:45:13 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone classic car racing
Message-ID: <CAN4UhUKD+acCqw_CvnNBj_32_6EmJbv8OyVJt5m=Z4rX6-b4Hw@mail.gmail.com>

This is where a bunch of of midgets and sprites are heading.
 Have a look at the numbers
I will be there !
*http://tinyurl.com/6jgl9nb*
**
Had a great  moonlit drive home last night in the frogeye from our midget
sprite meeting in a pub at Sambourne Warwickshire . Empty roads , cool
evening,  full throttle apex to apex stuff , exhilerating with only 4
miniscule drum brakes !
**
Alan
Warwick UK

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 05:00:49 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:00:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in eBay classifieds California.
In-Reply-To: <03ae01cc3e57$5a067030$0e135090$@net>
References: <CAL0QtVeZkd9bGGqtNBNEiFFtTewkuhD-DrTrkOKaUymu-PN-1A@mail.gmail.com>
	<03ae01cc3e57$5a067030$0e135090$@net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfGLuNSQ4i_CYLhrv5Ld6wZ4QBXeCFcvYa4f2=Bf0br+g@mail.gmail.com>

I'd be interested in combining mine with this one with the exception of it
being so far away.
I would assume anything could be patched up where the rotary was put in.
Lin

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Linda Grunthaner wrote:  "This 59 might be worth looking at for you folks
> in
> Orange, California."
> http://tinyurl.com/42dz4tb
>
> If anyone wants it checked out, let me know.
>
> Buster

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 05:05:50 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:05:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow - MK2 Sprite only $16,995!!! (nfi)
In-Reply-To: <33b93.32987e0c.3b4f5664@aol.com>
References: <33b93.32987e0c.3b4f5664@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVeApDdRxmcqVUb1m4w7PM3WuN7HT8R2xbj4Bon+G6je9A@mail.gmail.com>

Back in 06 he wasn't online then In asked some UK friends just recently and
they said he still isn't online.
Lin

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  He still hasn't got e-mail?
>
> In a message dated 13/07/2011 12:12:14 GMT Daylight Time,
> grunthaner at gmail.com writes:
>
> Terry Horler said in a snail mail letter

From clarici at verizon.net  Thu Jul 14 05:43:58 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:43:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C3CC71E2-5958-4BD0-B964-5C2252269330@verizon.net>

Were bringing the weather north west

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2011, at 11:26 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just watched news...Calling for mid to upper 90s next week....ugh.
>
> RS
> "That
> which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 07:26:41 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:26:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
In-Reply-To: <132d80.6f7f504f.3b4dfad6@aol.com>
References: <132d80.6f7f504f.3b4dfad6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAF3a=7J0rJf7=q6y7wSrXixHSLXL9cdUsYQ2tW2dXysPH=zdew@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all for the input,   I called the folks at APT, seem very
knowledgeable. I will likely go with a cam they build.

Steve

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  I wouldn't bother with the Kent 266 as it's too mild.  The Kent 276 and
> Piper 270 are similar but the Kent might be ground to a higher standard.
> Since you're in the USA why not buy 'merican and give David Anton at
> www.aptfast.com a call as he grinds his own cams.
>
> Regards
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 12/07/2011 17:15:56 GMT Daylight Time,
> an5.sprite at gmail.com writes:
>
> Kent 266 or mp266
> Kent 276
> Piper 270
> Swift SW5-07

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jul 14 07:58:16 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:58:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <C3CC71E2-5958-4BD0-B964-5C2252269330@verizon.net>
References: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C3CC71E2-5958-4BD0-B964-5C2252269330@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <201107140658181.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Tech sessions in the Lake..no worries!

Just Ed is doing a complete engine rebuild under water at 10AM 
Monday.  It will end when the we stop seeing bubbles.......

    Peter    Chillin'
==
At 06:43 AM 7/14/2011, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote:
>Were bringing the weather north west
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jul 13, 2011, at 11:26 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Just watched news...Calling for mid to upper 90s next week....ugh.
> >
> > RS

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 08:19:32 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:19:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <201107140658181.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C3CC71E2-5958-4BD0-B964-5C2252269330@verizon.net>
	<201107140658181.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hwSG-eHNsbwmeZ4thNsTOV=Hjh3+0GvM0hQKR=XHmNQ3A@mail.gmail.com>

Looks to me like the typical weather for mid-July in Elkhart Lake.
What's the problem?
David L

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 08:21:02 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:21:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hwSG-eHNsbwmeZ4thNsTOV=Hjh3+0GvM0hQKR=XHmNQ3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1310613992.58852.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C3CC71E2-5958-4BD0-B964-5C2252269330@verizon.net>
	<201107140658181.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<CACJx3hwSG-eHNsbwmeZ4thNsTOV=Hjh3+0GvM0hQKR=XHmNQ3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1310653262.78862.YahooMailNeo@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

2 years ago it was 59 for the high at the KIC....I couldnt believe people were
complaining!

 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
________________________________
From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
To:
Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
Cc: Frankie Clarici 4th
<clarici at verizon.net>; Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>; Spridgets
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:19 AM
Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] 50th weather...

Looks to me like the typical weather for mid-July
in Elkhart Lake.
What's the problem?
David L

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 08:55:59 2011
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
In-Reply-To: <CAF3a=7J0rJf7=q6y7wSrXixHSLXL9cdUsYQ2tW2dXysPH=zdew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1310655359.75378.YahooMailClassic@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Steve,
Which cam did David at APT recommend for your engine?
John
Fogelsville, PA


--- On Thu, 7/14/11, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 9:26 AM

Thanks all for the input,   I called the folks at APT, seem very
knowledgeable. I will likely go with a cam they build.

Steve

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  I wouldn't bother with the Kent 266 as it's too mild.  The Kent 276 and
> Piper 270 are similar but the Kent might be ground to a higher standard.
> Since you're in the USA why not buy 'merican and give David Anton at
> www.aptfast.com a call as he grinds his own cams.
>
> Regards
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 12/07/2011 17:15:56 GMT Daylight Time,
> an5.sprite at gmail.com writes:
>
> Kent 266 or mp266
> Kent 276
> Piper 270
> Swift SW5-07
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Jul 14 09:04:29 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:04:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't make 5oth. Some want the room?
Message-ID: <6210280578.20110714080429@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

   have a pinched nerve in my leg and my foot doesn't work right,
   so the Doc "Strongly recommends" that I not try a cross country
   road trip at this time. I've had reservations since day one at
    the Victorian Village. If nobody wants them I'll call tomorrow
    (Friday) and just them go, but thought maybe someone could use them.

    let me know.


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
      * "I'm single," Tom said wanly.

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 09:06:33 2011
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:06:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cn2tsp@email.mtu.edu>
References: <18C47C65B3E94D15AA27262B20310A0F@HomePC>,
	<9c4a79$cn2tsp@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <COL117-W1265339BA60BB22EDF4060C2460@phx.gbl>

Naptha is the main component of white gas and lighter fluid.
Also used in producing high octane gasoline.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!


> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:47:00 -0400
> To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
> From: thcollin at mtu.edu
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ethanol problem solver?
>
> The MSDS sheet says it is less that 0.5% (weight per volume)
> Propriety Organic Compounds and greater than 95% (w/v) Naptha. I
> would guess the small portion is the additive that controls bacteria.
> So the major ingredient is Naptha. Not sure how naptha would
> "stabilize" alcohol. Didn't naptha go by the name "white gas" in the
> old days and was/is used in Coleman lanterns?
>
> At 07:49 PM 7/8/2011, you wrote:
> >http://mystarbrite.com/startron//content/view/100/136/lang,en/
> >
> >This was passed on by somebody who swears by it.  Anybody know anything
about
> >it?  Snake oil?  Real science?
> >_______________________________________________

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 10:46:17 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:46:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
In-Reply-To: <1310655359.75378.YahooMailClassic@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <CAF3a=7J0rJf7=q6y7wSrXixHSLXL9cdUsYQ2tW2dXysPH=zdew@mail.gmail.com>
	<1310655359.75378.YahooMailClassic@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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John,

I am deciding between the 266 and 276.  The usable range for the 266 is
1500-5500 and for the 276 1900-5800.  Since this is really used mostly
locally on the street I am leaning to the 266.   I am also considering
sending them the head over the winter so they can open up the ports.

Steve

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Steve,
> Which cam did David at APT recommend for your engine?
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/14/11, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
> To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 9:26 AM
>
> Thanks all for the input,   I called the folks at APT, seem very
> knowledgeable. I will likely go with a cam they build.
>
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com<http://mc/compose?to=WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >  I wouldn't bother with the Kent 266 as it's too mild.  The Kent 276 and
> > Piper 270 are similar but the Kent might be ground to a higher standard.
> > Since you're in the USA why not buy 'merican and give David Anton at
> > www.aptfast.com a call as he grinds his own cams.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Weslake-Monza 1330
> >
> > In a message dated 12/07/2011 17:15:56 GMT Daylight Time,
> > an5.sprite at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=an5.sprite at gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > Kent 266 or mp266
> > Kent 276
> > Piper 270
> > Swift SW5-07
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Thu Jul 14 10:50:19 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:50:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hwSG-eHNsbwmeZ4thNsTOV=Hjh3+0GvM0hQKR=XHmNQ3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110714165019.TDU0S.50852.root@cdptpa-web24-z02>

Doesn't sound like a problem.

We are at about our 20th day over 100F.  Yesterday it was over 100, I came home from work and discovered that my house AC had stopped running.  I called all over the place and could not get a service crew out until this morning.  Finally got it back up and running.  Our forecast is for 100+ for the next week, or 2 or 3 weeks even.

 
> Looks to me like the typical weather for mid-July in Elkhart Lake.
> What's the problem?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul 14 10:58:08 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <001601cc41df$60b181a0$221484e0$@com>
Message-ID: <1555927600.529724.1310662688719.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

You just can't please some people! All last year, you guys were moaning and groaning about the probability of rain, so I went out and did a sun dance and promised you good weather. Kwitcherbitchin & enjoy it.

Kate

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:27 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...

Just watched news...Calling for mid to upper 90s next week....ugh.
 
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 11:32:12 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:32:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] T Bearing - 59 Sprite
Message-ID: <CAMyxPE+M6UOapgAWk70j0yqZUktRJvH7XL2v0P8zA0GB79kz5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Once again my T Bearing has burned out.  This time after a good year of
driving the car around town.  This is my turd T Bearing to fall apart before
it's time . . and yes I have checked the rod length on my slave cyl per
measurements that Frank gave me a long while ago.  I am going to check it
again just in case I did not cut it short enough. .  but think it should be
right on and not the problem.

I am wondering who sells a good quality bearing type throwout bearing
instead of going back to the carbon type unit?   I am using a Rib Case.

Thanks,

Kirk

59 1275

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Jul 14 11:40:21 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <1555927600.529724.1310662688719.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1007889037.485723.1310665221948.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Did you tape it ?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> You just can't please some people! All last year, you guys were
> moaning and groaning about the probability of rain, so I went out and
> did a sun dance and promised you good weather.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 14 11:56:30 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:56:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer bolt,
 to loctite or not to  loctite?
Message-ID: <2da71.48a67630.3b5087ce@aol.com>

Loctite is cheap, a crank damper that works loose won't be.
 
 
In a message dated 14/07/2011 00:43:05 GMT Daylight Time,  
frog.aye at gmail.com writes:

What is  the list consensus on loctiting the harmonic balancer bolt on a
moderately  warm 1275?  Or, as with many fasteners on our cars do we just
torque  to the specified value and leave it at that?  This is an  
aftermarket
bolt that is longer and tougher than the  original.
Hal

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul 14 12:04:00 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:04:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] T Bearing - 59 Sprite
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Message-ID: <187020660.530880.1310666640340.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

One of the most common causes of premature throwout bearing failure in these little guys is the practice of starting them in any gear other than neutral. Another bad habit that I have noticed is drivers resting their hands on the shift knob while driving.

Kate




----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:32:12 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] T Bearing - 59 Sprite

Once again my T Bearing has burned out.  This time after a good year of
driving the car around town.  This is my turd T Bearing to fall apart before
it's time . . and yes I have checked the rod length on my slave cyl per
measurements that Frank gave me a long while ago.  I am going to check it
again just in case I did not cut it short enough. .  but think it should be
right on and not the problem.

I am wondering who sells a good quality bearing type throwout bearing
instead of going back to the carbon type unit?   I am using a Rib Case.

Thanks,

Kirk

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From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Jul 14 12:12:49 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:12:49 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] T Bearing - 59 Sprite
References: <CAMyxPE+M6UOapgAWk70j0yqZUktRJvH7XL2v0P8zA0GB79kz5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <973ABBCD1CEE49CA989354EF2445228A@user8634b3d69b>

If that rod length is fine and there is a tad of free play before clutch 
movement who rides round with their foot on the clutch or sits with their 
foot resting on the pedal when the vehicle stationary?
(I can't think of any other reason. <smile>)


Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:32 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] T Bearing - 59 Sprite


> Once again my T Bearing has burned out.  This time after a good year of
> driving the car around town.  This is my turd T Bearing to fall apart 
> before
> it's time . . and yes I have checked the rod length on my slave cyl per
> measurements that Frank gave me a long while ago.  I am going to check it
> again just in case I did not cut it short enough. .  but think it should 
> be
> right on and not the problem.
>
> I am wondering who sells a good quality bearing type throwout bearing
> instead of going back to the carbon type unit?   I am using a Rib Case.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kirk
>
> 59 1275
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 14:00:33 2011
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] T Bearing - 59 Sprite
Message-ID: <1310673633.49231.YahooMailClassic@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Kirk,
While examining the remains is there any indication that the T.O. bearing may
not be running concentric with the clutch ? I am thinking about a potential
misalignment of the fork. I've seen several bent forks and had to compare them
to know what was correct. A smooth case fork has the pivot shifted so that the
bearing would be off center, but I don't know if it could be installed in a
rib case trans. Just thinking out loud.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Thu, 7/14/11, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] T Bearing - 59 Sprite
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date:
 Thursday, July 14, 2011, 1:32 PM

Once again my T Bearing has burned out.  This time after a good year of
driving the car around town.  This is my turd T Bearing to fall apart before
it's time . . and yes I have checked the rod length on my slave cyl per
measurements that Frank gave me a long while ago.  I am going to check it
again just in case I did not cut it short enough. .  but think it should be
right on and not the problem.

I am wondering who sells a good quality bearing type throwout bearing
instead of going back to the carbon type unit?   I am using a Rib Case.

Thanks,

Kirk

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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 14 14:03:52 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:03:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
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References: <1555927600.529724.1310662688719.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
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On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

>  Kwitcherbitchin & enjoy it.

Kate,

I would like to (if I may) use that phrase, exactly as you wrote it  
(on a few T-Shirts...... ;)

Kevin

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jul 14 14:29:56 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
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	<CEFE9562-1C59-4E5D-AEB3-9374113BAD74@gmail.com>
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At 03:03 PM 7/14/2011, Kevin Valentine wrote:
>On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
>
>>  Kwitcherbitchin & enjoy it.
>
>Kate,
>
>I would like to (if I may) use that phrase, exactly as you wrote it
>(on a few T-Shirts...... ;)
>
>Kevin
-----------------
On the front or the back?


ED 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 14 16:12:39 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:12:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
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References: <1555927600.529724.1310662688719.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
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	<201107141329340.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Please direct all 50th weather complaints to Mr. James R. Johnson (aka "The
Rainmaker" or "Omnipotent") at:

.               bmwwxman at gmail.com

Be advised, however, that he is a Government Man (Ret.) and you may be
placed on a list of "them" and subjected to Invasive Search Techniques
(i.e., full cavity search) by TSA and IRS.

RBE 

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Thu Jul 14 16:20:16 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:20:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
In-Reply-To: <201107141329340.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <20110714222016.CZ2J4.206126.root@cdptpa-web02-z01>

I would be more interested in what graphic he might be putting with it.

 
> At 03:03 PM 7/14/2011, Kevin Valentine wrote:
> >On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
> >
> >>  Kwitcherbitchin & enjoy it.
> >
> >Kate,
> >
> >I would like to (if I may) use that phrase, exactly as you wrote it
> >(on a few T-Shirts...... ;)
> >
> >Kevin
> -----------------
> On the front or the back?
> 
> 
> ED 
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From robert.duquette at me.com  Thu Jul 14 16:38:28 2011
From: robert.duquette at me.com (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:38:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] The Beaver
In-Reply-To: <1310615613.77270.YahooMailNeo@web180609.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <63a3ec09-af08-6cfc-8409-8be562f0c0c0@me.com>

Beer commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y09YOkVmGg0

Robert D

On Jul 13, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:


A little bit off topic, but we don't get off topic much do we? A cute video
about the Beaver. No, not the TV show and NOT what the rest of you miscreants
are thinking. On topic, I wish I was going to the 50th, but my BN2 is finally
getting painted and I have to use my three weeks vacation to ride herd on the
flake, er, ah, I mean painter to make sure it comes out O.K.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w_v0k57KhE

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02
Heritage Springer.
_______________________________________________

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul 14 16:51:45 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:51:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th weather...
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Likewise.


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:20:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 50th weather...

I would be more interested in what graphic he might be putting with it.

 
> At 03:03 PM 7/14/2011, Kevin Valentine wrote:
> >On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
> >
> >>  Kwitcherbitchin & enjoy it.
> >
> >Kate,
> >
> >I would like to (if I may) use that phrase, exactly as you wrote it
> >(on a few T-Shirts...... ;)
> >
> >Kevin
> -----------------
> On the front or the back?
> 
> 
> ED 
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 15 01:34:18 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:34:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife...she loved my car before she
 loved me!
Message-ID: <003601cc42c1$9b6d88b0$d2489a10$@net>

It was 45 years ago that Pam fell in love not with me, but my car.  No, not
my Sprite, but my ex-police car.  The 1965 Dodge Polara Police Pursuit is
long gone, the Sprite remains with us and today marks our 45th anniversary.




I was an Orange County cop at the time, and the car was a that I knew had
been the watch commander's car, with low mileage and absolutely no
mechanical issues.  For only $700, I had a car that flew like a bat outta
hell!!!!  It was equipped with:

  --413 ci single 4-bbl

  -- hi performance cam

  -- dual exhaust

  -- High-capacity radiator

  -- 60 amp extra-heavy-duty Leece-Neville alternator w/dual belts

  -- Police TorqueFlite 3-speed automatic transmission

  -- 3.23 differential

  -- Power brakes

  -- Power steering

  -- Heavy-duty suspension w/special rear springs, torsion bars and 122
wheelbase.

  -- Less than 9 miles per gallon of 30" a gallon



Six weeks before, we had our first date and we had gone for lobster in the
L.A. harbor, then to Hollywood for a premier.  After that, Pam just HAD to
drive my car, and went flat out up Highway 101.  The next day, we took a
drive in the Sprite, and of course she loved it.   But the Dodge was to be
HER car.  Two weeks later, we decided to get married, and knowing that she
had "immunity" as a cop's wife, she took full advantage of it and kept the
pedal to the metal.



Today, she still loves me (and the Sprite).



(A few years later, I was teaching history at Cal State University Long
Beach.  I had a student who was an ex-con, fresh out of the joint.  He had
no money, no food, no job and no car to find a job.  He was a sure bet to
return to the joint.  So, Pam and I loaded the Dodge with some of my clothes
and food.  And, we  gave him the car (yes, free), so the ex-con was driving
around in an ex-cop car!!  I and got him a job as student assistant in the
department (although the chairman insisted his past had to be kept a secret
from our liberal colle)agues who he knew would revolt.)    He would later
have an executive position with a string of truck stops.



Buster

From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 15 05:01:26 2011
From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Driver Education Track Day
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having been an instructor at events like this at pocono i can say that they
are 
about the best bang for your buck!   your car , in a controlled condition
being 
taught to drive to the car and driver's best ability.    the experience
gained 
out on course is valuable and colud give you the ability to avoid some
unplesant 
highway conditions in the future.   car controll at speed is not
rocket science  
, but if not properly learned can go "wrong" very fast!  if
you are able to 
participate , i storngly recomend considering going and
seeing what you are 
capeable of in your car.   you will be amazed by day's
end the progression of 
skill and confidence.

chuck
________________________________
From: Neil Anderson <neilandcustom at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 1:19:16 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Driver Education Track Day

The Midwest Region of the
Austin-Healey Club invites owners of vintage
sports cars to attend their 2d
Driver Education Day at Blackhawk Farms
Raceway, South Beloit, IL on Friday,
August 5th.  



Our first event was held after the Healey Club's National
Conclave last July
with great success and loads of fun.  Blackhawk is a
challenging club racer
track that is great for Sprites and Midgets.  Spridget
list members Ron
Soave, and Wm. Severin Thompson, along with others, have
raced there over
the years.  



We have special dispensation from Blackhawk
Farms that let open sports cars
drive on the track without roll bars or
cages.  Seat belts and helmets are
required though.  For newbies to the track
experience, an instructor can
ride along to help you learn the intricacies of
track driving more quickly,
or to just learn your way around Blackhawk.  But,
don't expect to be smooth
and quick after just a few laps.



You won't find
this experience of track time at the price of $115 per car
(including
trackside lunch) at too many track locations.  A mandatory
classroom session
after lunch precedes the on-track time.  There will be no
timed laps and no
wheel-to-wheel racing.  This is a driver education day, to
learn track driving
and have a great time!



The Midwest Region reserves the right to let
approved more modern cars
attend to fill out our minimum car requirement. 
Please take a look at our informational page and registration form here:
http://www.wrcresearch.com/trackday  and more info about Blackhawk Farms
here:  http://www.blackhawkfarms.com/  



We will be at the Midget 50th, so
we can answer more questions there.  We
would like to see you attend!



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Anderson

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Bill Cantrall

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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Fri Jul 15 05:38:17 2011
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:38:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer bolt,
 to loctite or not to  loctite?
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-Rjd=DjKODd5koAji3uW8P739Mz1twt5nnyMxg98dX9su4w@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CAM6-Rjd=DjKODd5koAji3uW8P739Mz1twt5nnyMxg98dX9su4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201107151138.p6FBcctp000175@mail.usimperio.com>

There is a locking plate that goes on under the bolt, so there is no 
need to locktite it in.

Dave


At 07:19 PM 7/13/2011, you wrote:
>What is the list consensus on loctiting the harmonic balancer bolt on a
>moderately warm 1275?  Or, as with many fasteners on our cars do we just
>torque to the specified value and leave it at that?  This is an aftermarket
>bolt that is longer and tougher than the original.
>Hal
>______

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 07:29:11 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:29:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife...she loved my car before
 she loved me!
In-Reply-To: <003601cc42c1$9b6d88b0$d2489a10$@net>
References: <003601cc42c1$9b6d88b0$d2489a10$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAF-gh17kHmQ+JSzz4kAVpy4fR-C8n4DWgU1epukxgmKFw@mail.gmail.com>

Happy Anniversary to you and Pam....45 years; share your secret.

Excellent story with a great ending.

Good people do make bad decisions....

Herb

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 07:32:47 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:32:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why I still love my wife...she loved my car before
 she loved me!
In-Reply-To: <003601cc42c1$9b6d88b0$d2489a10$@net>
References: <003601cc42c1$9b6d88b0$d2489a10$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAHgLpCZZ2GmgnbRnR5Puyu3Ap0o9LYD5KFsV0HLcJsVxw@mail.gmail.com>

P.S.

Shared your story with a good friend of mine...our Sheriff.  He'll
appreciate your story.

Herb

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 07:40:46 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:40:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum Gauge Use
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAFpF0LJHOE904KPuB8FhEF8vvyXg7rvt4=H67XEiHFoyw@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utUSI-JYhVU

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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 07:52:47 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:52:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum Gauge Use
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I used a vacuum gauge to learn how to tune carbs.  After a while I
could do it without the gauge.

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul 15 08:26:55 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:26:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
Message-ID: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>

I'm getting ready to load up the Sprite.  The trailer is tandem axle with
e-brakes.  The load I'm carrying will be 1500 lbs give or take.  Anyone know
what tire pressures I should be running.  The tires are new and have 50lb psi
max pressure cold.  I've towed before but only a lightweight sailboat.

Thanks.  See you Spridgeteers that are going to WI on Sunday afternoon.  Jane
and I are traveling with the Clarici Clan and Larry Macy in his MIni.  (I
drove that thing last Sunday, it's sweet.)

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul 15 09:03:01 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Travel to Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4E2056A5.2050700@wi.net>

To all who are about to leave or have left and can still read email:

We wish you a safe trip without any negative events and look forward to 
seeing familiar faces again and making new friends!

Sunscreen will be needed!

See you soon! Safe travels,

Dave and Terri

Dave W.
"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org


On 7/15/2011 9:26 AM, Philip Nase wrote:
> I'm getting ready to load up the Sprite.  The trailer is tandem axle with
> e-brakes.  The load I'm carrying will be 1500 lbs give or take.  Anyone know
> what tire pressures I should be running.  The tires are new and have 50lb psi
> max pressure cold.  I've towed before but only a lightweight sailboat.
>
> Thanks.  See you Spridgeteers that are going to WI on Sunday afternoon.  Jane
> and I are traveling with the Clarici Clan and Larry Macy in his MIni.  (I
> drove that thing last Sunday, it's sweet.)
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 09:18:48 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:18:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_4D57L2ot8-nWV9YRon_b80fALKMQA4Mhdq8bstSH4hw@mail.gmail.com>

50.
40-50 if you want to be different.
Less pressure might give you more traction, right?
Do you want your trailer to have more traction?

From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Fri Jul 15 09:50:39 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:50:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>

The trailer will be minimally loaded. You are looking at 375 lbs per tire.
That is much less than the tire loading on a full size car. I would probably
use something between 35-40 psi. That should be a good compromise between
tire heating from low inflation pressure and excessive wear from
overinflating. Just make sure you load the trailer at least 150-200 lbs
tongue heavy to prevent the trailer from steering the tow car back and
forth. 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip Nase
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:27 AM
To: Spridgets at autox.team. Net net
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures

I'm getting ready to load up the Sprite.  The trailer is tandem axle with
e-brakes.  The load I'm carrying will be 1500 lbs give or take.  Anyone know
what tire pressures I should be running.  The tires are new and have 50lb
psi
max pressure cold.  I've towed before but only a lightweight sailboat.

Thanks.  See you Spridgeteers that are going to WI on Sunday afternoon.
Jane
and I are traveling with the Clarici Clan and Larry Macy in his MIni.  (I
drove that thing last Sunday, it's sweet.)

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
_______________________________________________

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 10:12:37 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:12:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>

I disagree.  Why would you run less pressure?  I would run trailer
tires at max or near max rated pressure.
Trailer tires have different sidewall characteristics and you do not
want them acting like car/truck tires.
35-40 on a 50 rated tire is too low, IMO.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jim Seippel <aseippel at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> The trailer will be minimally loaded. You are looking at 375 lbs per tire.
> That is much less than the tire loading on a full size car. I would probably
> use something between 35-40 psi. That should be a good compromise between
> tire heating from low inflation pressure and excessive wear from
> overinflating. Just make sure you load the trailer at least 150-200 lbs
> tongue heavy to prevent the trailer from steering the tow car back and
> forth.
> Jim

From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Fri Jul 15 10:45:06 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:45:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>
	<CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <031a01cc430e$8d5b5d40$a81217c0$@rr.com>

We will have to agree to disagree. I believe 50 psi is WAY too much. 50 psi
is the maximum rated pressure, not the recommended pressure. I suspect the
load rating on the tires is about 1500 lbs each. At light loads, 35-40 psi
should be optimal. That should be a good balance between tire heating,
handling, and wear. Try looking at these web sites. 
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=8  
http://www.brighthub.com/diy/automotive/articles/74883.aspx  
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:13 AM
To: Jim Seippel
Cc: Philip Nase; Spridgets at autox.team. Net net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures

I disagree.  Why would you run less pressure?  I would run trailer
tires at max or near max rated pressure.
Trailer tires have different sidewall characteristics and you do not
want them acting like car/truck tires.
35-40 on a 50 rated tire is too low, IMO.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jim Seippel <aseippel at austin.rr.com>
wrote:
> The trailer will be minimally loaded. You are looking at 375 lbs per tire.
> That is much less than the tire loading on a full size car. I would
probably
> use something between 35-40 psi. That should be a good compromise between
> tire heating from low inflation pressure and excessive wear from
> overinflating. Just make sure you load the trailer at least 150-200 lbs
> tongue heavy to prevent the trailer from steering the tow car back and
> forth.
> Jim

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Jul 15 10:45:19 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:45:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Harmonic balancer bolt,
 to loctite or not to   loctite?
Message-ID: <d4b1.1e7513b2.3b51c89f@aol.com>

Gee, I wish I had a photo of the destroyed locking plate that goes under  
the crank damper bolt..
 
In a message dated 15/07/2011 13:04:42 GMT Daylight Time,  
lbc at littlebitcountry.com writes:

There is  a locking plate that goes on under the bolt, so there is no 
need to  locktite it in.

Dave

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 11:03:18 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:03:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <031a01cc430e$8d5b5d40$a81217c0$@rr.com>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>
	<CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<031a01cc430e$8d5b5d40$a81217c0$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_wQ+PwB0RkVcfsT04gr4ScZ_o1TT_n-JsDdV1T1XrxXA@mail.gmail.com>

The links you posted are for car and/or truck tires.
Trailer tires are different.  You may be one of those who chose to put
passenger car tires on a trailer.

Here is a brief explanation of some differences:
http://www.serroscottycamperenthusiasts.com/files/whybuytrailertires.pdf

Here is a little info on trailer tires where they recommend max
pressure on the sidewall.  I would use whatever the trailer tag
specifies.  If no info is available on the trailer, then I woule go
with max sidewall pressure.
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.dos

From bkitterer at me.com  Fri Jul 15 11:13:59 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:13:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>
	<CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A0912D0D-50DC-432A-87E3-4D802F91058A@me.com>

You are right if they are trailer tires.  Trailer & truck tires have a minimum pressure reguardless of the load

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:12 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree.  Why would you run less pressure?  I would run trailer
> tires at max or near max rated pressure.
> Trailer tires have different sidewall characteristics and you do not
> want them acting like car/truck tires.
> 35-40 on a 50 rated tire is too low, IMO.
> Correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jim Seippel <aseippel at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> The trailer will be minimally loaded. You are looking at 375 lbs per tire.
>> That is much less than the tire loading on a full size car. I would probably
>> use something between 35-40 psi. That should be a good compromise between
>> tire heating from low inflation pressure and excessive wear from
>> overinflating. Just make sure you load the trailer at least 150-200 lbs
>> tongue heavy to prevent the trailer from steering the tow car back and
>> forth.
>> Jim
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 11:28:40 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:28:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <A0912D0D-50DC-432A-87E3-4D802F91058A@me.com>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>
	<CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<A0912D0D-50DC-432A-87E3-4D802F91058A@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7_3Yt0-M6D4RBFrMkhC_riQEgBsYD2mSZ2TmFeRNuVt0g@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, and truck tires and trailer tires have a more similar
construction than car tires and trailer tires.
Greater sidewall strength helps keep trailers from swerving.
Big trucks run much higher pressures (like 80-100PSI, maybe?).

Some people think car tires or P metric tires are fine on trailers.
They're round and roll fine.  But, if you are involved in an accident
because your trailer tire failed and you were running car tires on a
trailer be ready to go to court and get taken to the cleaners.

Some people pull 20,000lb loads with a 2" ball on a bumper on a 1/2
ton truck.  It works.  What works and what is safe are often subjects
of debate, especially after an accident.

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Jul 15 12:30:37 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:30:37 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <89AE5D0174A347F093DBFDFA5143A8BC@user8634b3d69b>

The old way to determine if a tyre was correctly laden was to load the 
trailer and rub a chalk line across the tread, drive in a straight(ish) line 
for a few hundred yards and have a look at the line across the tread.  Worn 
in the middle - too high, worn at the edges too low.  Worn away, driven too 
far - not worn, drive further!
I'd try starting at 35- 40psi.
Another way was to drive the car and trailer a few miles then feel the 
temperature of the tyres on car and trailer.  They should feel about the 
same, if they're hotter the pressure is too low.
Too high a pressure will make the trailer bounce about and can cause 
skipping whilst braking and cornering.

If the tyres are a max 50psi, IMHO it sounds as if they are car tyres and 
not trailer tyres.  They usually have a higher max pressure and are a 
sturdier construction.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philip Nase" <nases at verizon.net>
To: "Spridgets at autox.team. Net net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 3:26 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures


> I'm getting ready to load up the Sprite.  The trailer is tandem axle with
> e-brakes.  The load I'm carrying will be 1500 lbs give or take.  Anyone 
> know
> what tire pressures I should be running.  The tires are new and have 50lb 
> psi
> max pressure cold.  I've towed before but only a lightweight sailboat.
>
> Thanks.  See you Spridgeteers that are going to WI on Sunday afternoon. 
> Jane
> and I are traveling with the Clarici Clan and Larry Macy in his MIni.  (I
> drove that thing last Sunday, it's sweet.)
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From twobees at sprynet.com  Fri Jul 15 12:44:32 2011
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:44:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets]  trailer tire pressures
Message-ID: <007701cc431f$3cf52e10$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Phil,

I tow my 1250# Turner in a 2700# ATC trailer and ALWAYS run 50 lbs.  The
reasons for 50# have been noted by others.

Don't know what you're towing with.  But, I have to say, "Watch your speed."
My tow vehicle is a BMW X5 diesel & it is far too easy to do 90- mph while
towing.  NOT good for the trailer tires.  I delaminated 2 on my last run
to/from Savannah.  Stick to 65 to 70 if you can.  Saves fuel too.
Difference is dramatic with X5d - 12 mpg at 80, 14 mpg at 75, 20 mpg at 50.

Norm

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul 15 14:23:54 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:23:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7_4D57L2ot8-nWV9YRon_b80fALKMQA4Mhdq8bstSH4hw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<CAEAAx7_4D57L2ot8-nWV9YRon_b80fALKMQA4Mhdq8bstSH4hw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BF0DEB60-BCCA-4743-A41B-76438448DD99@verizon.net>

Maybe I'll hit an autocross on the way. Traction would be a good thing then. 
Thanks Derf. 

Phil Nase 
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:18 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 50.
> 40-50 if you want to be different.
> Less pressure might give you more traction, right?
> Do you want your trailer to have more traction?

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Fri Jul 15 15:41:55 2011
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:41:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<030701cc4306$f25c9400$d715bc00$@rr.com>
	<CAEAAx78nEwd+njatqjeNpj1hYHO0qWG5d_+Adzef5OA7gXeaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110715214210.D157E187645@autox.team.net>

I've been towing my 67 Vintage Race Midget for 20 years with a dual 
axle, enclosed 16' Haulmark and have had 1 flat tire and two start to 
disintegrate. All three tire shops I went to for replacement insisted 
on the same thing, i.e. trailer tires, not truck or car, and 
inflation at max pressure. Trailer tires ARE built for that specific 
use, car/truck tires are not. My Midget weighs less than 1600 lbs but 
I carry a few hundred lbs in tools, spares, supplies, etc.

Read the max load number indicated on each of the four tires, 
calculate the weight of the car, the trailer, and the contents. Don't 
forget, the load the tires have to carry includes the weight of the 
trailer and all the miscellaneous things you keep in it in addition 
to the car. Max weight carrying capacity is at max air pressure. Make 
your decision from those numbers.

Also, all tire shops recommended speed no more than the max indicated 
on the tires, in my case 65 MPH. That happens to be about 2200 RPM on 
my truck and it feels real comfortable there. I may use different 
brands but always the same construction, size and load rating. 
Checking for heat build-up in the tires and the hubs at your first 
rest stop is a good idea.

Don't forget a compatible spare. I keep my spare at higher PSI 
because it always seems to loose air sitting inside. When you have a 
flat, you want the spare to be at the same pressure the other three 
tires are and you can always take air our but not always put it back. 
Some of us carry a hand or foot pump or one of those cheap pumps that 
runs off the cigarette lighter. The more self-sufficient you are the 
less time and money you'll lose, especially on a long trip on lonely roads.

Be prepared. Safety Fast.

Bob




   At 12:12 PM 7/15/2011, derf wrote:
>I disagree.  Why would you run less pressure?  I would run trailer
>tires at max or near max rated pressure.
>Trailer tires have different sidewall characteristics and you do not
>want them acting like car/truck tires.
>35-40 on a 50 rated tire is too low, IMO.
>Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jim Seippel <aseippel at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> > The trailer will be minimally loaded. You are looking at 375 lbs per tire.
> > That is much less than the tire loading on a full size car. I 
> would probably
> > use something between 35-40 psi. That should be a good compromise between
> > tire heating from low inflation pressure and excessive wear from
> > overinflating. Just make sure you load the trailer at least 150-200 lbs
> > tongue heavy to prevent the trailer from steering the tow car back and
> > forth.
> > Jim
>_______________________________________________

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul 15 16:20:47 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:20:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <38ED066F-EB54-454A-B9D5-189000C1F084@verizon.net>

Thanks to all for the trailer tire inflation advice. I checked the sidewall
and they are trailer only tires.  No minimum psi listed only the max of 50.
We'll be keeping the speeds down and plan to stop often.  I'll keep an eye on
them.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Philip Nase wrote:

> I'm getting ready to load up the Sprite.  The trailer is tandem axle with
e-brakes.  The load I'm carrying will be 1500 lbs give or take.  Anyone know
what tire pressures I should be running.  The tires are new and have 50lb psi
max pressure cold.  I've towed before but only a lightweight sailboat.
>
> Thanks.  See you Spridgeteers that are going to WI on Sunday afternoon.
Jane and I are traveling with the Clarici Clan and Larry Macy in his MIni.  (I
drove that thing last Sunday, it's sweet.)
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From kmappley at gmail.com  Fri Jul 15 16:21:55 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:21:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets]  T bearing-59 sprite.
Message-ID: <CANv6dsA8J+ky_eWv=cgnmjSZwiD0xk-aZNJrhsZCgxEHOmqZqw@mail.gmail.com>

Kirk: is your throw out arm bearing good and does the throwout bearing
contact the clutch pressure plate perfectly concentric with the shaft. Does
your clutch have a judder in the pedal when normally depressed. I'm just
asking since I had throwout bearing trouble as well and my throwout arm was
bent and bushing was loose. Haven't driven it enough since to definitely
place the blame on that but that is what I suspect was the cause.

Kurt.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 07:49:54 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:49:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trailer tire pressures
In-Reply-To: <38ED066F-EB54-454A-B9D5-189000C1F084@verizon.net>
References: <F4362F18-3AEE-4CE3-AAFC-FE34CD666222@verizon.net>
	<38ED066F-EB54-454A-B9D5-189000C1F084@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfV-Ch8wwVU2GibSw7M_67_vh97=CyzmOAfHee5moidxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Have a fun Safe trip Phil, Clarici Gang, Larry and all the others ; )
Lin

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> Thanks to all for the trailer tire inflation advice. I checked the sidewall
> and they are trailer only tires.  No minimum psi listed only the max of 50.
> We'll be keeping the speeds down and plan to stop often.  I'll keep an eye
> on
> them.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Philip Nase wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to load up the Sprite.  The trailer is tandem axle with
> e-brakes.  The load I'm carrying will be 1500 lbs give or take.  Anyone
> know
> what tire pressures I should be running.  The tires are new and have 50lb
> psi
> max pressure cold.  I've towed before but only a lightweight sailboat.
> >
> > Thanks.  See you Spridgeteers that are going to WI on Sunday afternoon.
> Jane and I are traveling with the Clarici Clan and Larry Macy in his MIni.
>  (I
> drove that thing last Sunday, it's sweet.)
> >
> > Phil Nase
> > Quakertown, PA
> > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> _______________________________________________
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 11:35:36 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:35:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Clarici Gang, morning photo heading to the Midget 50th.
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVfdQXRMFHo0PfLEvV5Cy9otwH7UY2mVW9EtHK=H6xnxGQ@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I just got this photo from Tiffany. Looking forward to some nice family
shots which I will post also. Should be some party in that awesome EuroVan
of Frankies : )



Hope to get some shots of their meeting with Phil & Larry too!


Enjoy,
Lin
Spritespot link, last page.
http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/Deep-Pink-Sprite/Franks_Speedwell_Frankies_EuroVan

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sat Jul 16 14:32:54 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:32:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
In-Reply-To: <-2253280953403871213@unknownmsgid>
References: <CAF3a=7J0rJf7=q6y7wSrXixHSLXL9cdUsYQ2tW2dXysPH=zdew@mail.gmail.com>
	<1310655359.75378.YahooMailClassic@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAF3a=7LP09HcCHxr0nmYGspR5a0OvgxyQq2Sq-Ueb8JMso9bFA@mail.gmail.com>
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David,

Did you use the stock cam timing when you installed the 266?  From my
reading it seems that the stock cam timing is 4 degrees retarded, and that
can be "fixed" using an 4 degree offset cam key.  I suspect that should make
a noticeable difference.

Anyone know what impact 4 degrees has on cam timing?

One reason I did look at the sw5-07 kit is that it includes an adjustable
cam timing gear, which makes it well priced.

Back to the clutch problems, hydraulics look in order but the clutch fork at
the hinge has a little bit of movement, more play than I remember,

Steve

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> I put the 266 in my 1275. I am disappointed. I have an SW5-07 kit to
> install, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
>
> David L
>
> On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:11, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > John,
> >
> > I am deciding between the 266 and 276.  The usable range for the 266 is
> > 1500-5500 and for the 276 1900-5800.  Since this is really used mostly
> > locally on the street I am leaning to the 266.   I am also considering
> > sending them the head over the winter so they can open up the ports.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Steve,
> >> Which cam did David at APT recommend for your engine?
> >> John
> >> Fogelsville, PA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Thu, 7/14/11, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Getting ready to pull engine and change cam
> >> To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> >> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> >> Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 9:26 AM
> >>
> >> Thanks all for the input,   I called the folks at APT, seem very
> >> knowledgeable. I will likely go with a cam they build.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com<
> http://mc/compose?to=WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> **
> >>> I wouldn't bother with the Kent 266 as it's too mild.  The Kent 276 and
> >>> Piper 270 are similar but the Kent might be ground to a higher
> standard.
> >>> Since you're in the USA why not buy 'merican and give David Anton at
> >>> www.aptfast.com a call as he grinds his own cams.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Weslake-Monza 1330
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 12/07/2011 17:15:56 GMT Daylight Time,
> >>> an5.sprite at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=an5.sprite at gmail.com>
> writes:
> >>>
> >>> Kent 266 or mp266
> >>> Kent 276
> >>> Piper 270
> >>> Swift SW5-07
> >> _______________________________________________
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jul 16 16:12:38 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:12:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] OUCH!!! Car related, but no LBC
In-Reply-To: <758852102.558061.1310854167644.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2124683983.558088.1310854358626.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Is not exactly what I said when I totaled my beloved Jeep Comanche this morning, but in the spirit of keeping this G rated, I'll leave my exact words to your imagination. I had a choice of hitting an elk that leaped out of a gulch and headed straight for me, or doing some offroading at 60 mph. I opted for the latter, so I am still here to talk about the experience.

The deputy and the EMTs were marvelous. They even checked out Bonnie! The deputy even gave me back my .380 - unloaded. The lead EMT insisted that I go to the hospital, which is probably a good thing, as I now have a new fracture to add to my collection - my neck. Fortunately, at least in my opinion, it's a minor fracture and should heal with tincture of time and a very uncomfortable brace. Unfortunately, I left the only pain medicine that I am able to take, and was pulled from the market last spring, at home.

The head nurse at the hospital was not at all happy about Bonnie being there with me, and wanted to call the deputy to take her to the pound. I wonder what part of the ADA she missed in nursing school? One of the EMTs took her home with him while I was being checked out, then drove us to the next town over to catch the bus to Lewiston. It seems that his wife has MS and discovered during their 4 hour visit just how much help a service dog can be. Bonnie had a ball! When she left she was shocky and still trembling something fierce, but she came back happy and ready to go to work.

Now my problem is finding a way to get my truck home from McCall, ID. My big truck is still being worked on by an engineer friend of mine who is doing it a little bit at a time when he gets to Elko. The car trailer that I can borrow is too heavy for my Cherokee to pull even without Deuce on board. 

Kate

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Jul 16 17:52:01 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:52:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OUCH!!! Car related, but no LBC
In-Reply-To: <2124683983.558088.1310854358626.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <2124683983.558088.1310854358626.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4E222421.8030904@wi.net>

Kate,

Glad to hear you are OK...sort of.  Yikes, what a choice...er...lack of 
choice.  I'm visualizing and not liking what I see.  Hitting an elk at 
60 would have done more than broken your neck, me-thinks.
So Bonnie received some well deserved therapy for  a change and made a 
new friend.  Happy too that she's all right.

Let that neck heal for a while before you get too frisky.  ;-)    Back 
to riding an oat-burner for awhile?  Do we do O.S.H.I.T.'s for a Jeep?  
The Comanche must be a classic by now.
Kate, there was an Arkley on eBay...your color too!  ;-)

Good thoughts comin' your way,

Dave W.

"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org


On 7/16/2011 5:12 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:
> Is not exactly what I said when I totaled my beloved Jeep Comanche this morning, but in the spirit of keeping this G rated, I'll leave my exact words to your imagination. I had a choice of hitting an elk that leaped out of a gulch and headed straight for me, or doing some offroading at 60 mph. I opted for the latter, so I am still here to talk about the experience.
>
> The deputy and the EMTs were marvelous. They even checked out Bonnie! The deputy even gave me back my .380 - unloaded. The lead EMT insisted that I go to the hospital, which is probably a good thing, as I now have a new fracture to add to my collection - my neck. Fortunately, at least in my opinion, it's a minor fracture and should heal with tincture of time and a very uncomfortable brace. Unfortunately, I left the only pain medicine that I am able to take, and was pulled from the market last spring, at home.
>
> The head nurse at the hospital was not at all happy about Bonnie being there with me, and wanted to call the deputy to take her to the pound. I wonder what part of the ADA she missed in nursing school? One of the EMTs took her home with him while I was being checked out, then drove us to the next town over to catch the bus to Lewiston. It seems that his wife has MS and discovered during their 4 hour visit just how much help a service dog can be. Bonnie had a ball! When she left she was shocky and still trembling something fierce, but she came back happy and ready to go to work.
>
> Now my problem is finding a way to get my truck home from McCall, ID. My big truck is still being worked on by an engineer friend of mine who is doing it a little bit at a time when he gets to Elko. The car trailer that I can borrow is too heavy for my Cherokee to pull even without Deuce on board.
>
> Kate

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 16 19:50:28 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:50:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget
Message-ID: <2A950511D0924877BD1370C0D35DCB3A@spider>

I wanted a locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget; so I made one.

This method may be of use to others. .bill in corvallis

http://www.97330.com/Gas_cap_locking_Spridget.html

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 16 20:21:55 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:21:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget
In-Reply-To: <C214C273BD9141D0B2149DE7E8792D6A@dell1>
References: <2A950511D0924877BD1370C0D35DCB3A@spider>
	<C214C273BD9141D0B2149DE7E8792D6A@dell1>
Message-ID: <3F4EC9C72B42428A8500D7395764A20A@spider>

I guess I should have asked here first.
I spent several hours with google and came up with "...they don't exist."
Thank you
=================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Biff Jones [mailto:biffjones at verizon.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 7:00 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget

Bill,

You could have saved some time and bought a Stant # 10491 Chrome locking gas

cap. No fitting required.

=============================================================
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:50
Subject: [Spridgets] locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget


>I wanted a locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget; so I made one.
>
> This method may be of use to others. .bill in corvallis
>
> http://www.97330.com/Gas_cap_locking_Spridget.html

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Jul 16 22:09:23 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:09:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget
In-Reply-To: <2A950511D0924877BD1370C0D35DCB3A@spider>
References: <2A950511D0924877BD1370C0D35DCB3A@spider>
Message-ID: <4E226073.7090701@wi.net>

Well done Bill.  When one buys something that works immediately, one 
doesn't experience the sense of accomplishment and satisfaction as when 
carefully crafted with ones own hands.  If there were no "ready-made" 
caps around I would have to ask you, Der Cap Meister!  Shoot we could 
have done a tech session at the 50th.  Seriously, it's creative thinking 
like this that keeps our hobby going.  What happens when all the parts 
run out?  We'll be like Cuba and making parts from stuff found in the 
trash or off of Kate's recently departed, and beloved, Jeep Comanche.

OK, so that's a little heavy for a Saturday night.


Dave W.
"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org


On 7/16/2011 8:50 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> I wanted a locking gas cap for my 1979 MG Midget; so I made one.
>
> This method may be of use to others. .bill in corvallis
>
> http://www.97330.com/Gas_cap_locking_Spridget.html

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sun Jul 17 07:27:25 2011
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:27:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] weber DCOE 40
Message-ID: <00be01cc4485$44a38cd0$cdeaa670$@net>

Will a 40 DCOE work on a stock 1275?

 

Leo

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 07:43:30 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:43:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] weber DCOE 40
In-Reply-To: <00be01cc4485$44a38cd0$cdeaa670$@net>
References: <00be01cc4485$44a38cd0$cdeaa670$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-tC-XD61YCsgot2tDYdbrj41y2dre4qtDZ8RoOpNYgAA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, but probably not as well as a single HIF6, or well sorted stock
carbs.  The 45 Weber is too big, IMO, for most stock applications, but
can be made to function properly except for fuel economy.   The 40 and
45 Webers use the same intake pattern so if you get a 40 you can later
upgrade to a 45 by just switching carbs.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Jul 17 11:09:06 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:09:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] weber DCOE 40
Message-ID: <1ea9c.19ea287a.3b547131@aol.com>

It will if you take the time and trouble to understand how it works and set 
 it up properly, something few owners seem to achieve.
 
In a message dated 17/07/2011 14:38:14 GMT Daylight Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:

Will a  40 DCOE work on a stock 1275?



Leo

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 17 11:51:18 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:51:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] weber DCOE 40
In-Reply-To: <00be01cc4485$44a38cd0$cdeaa670$@net>
References: <00be01cc4485$44a38cd0$cdeaa670$@net>
Message-ID: <75B5FB16B9E04D9EA2858E524D182086@HomePC>

BTW, I have a brand new 42 DCOE that I will not be using.  It will give you 
a little more than a 40, but not too much like a 45.  Carb only, no 
manifold.  APT is asking $500 for a DCOE.  I'd be happy with $300.

Larry





-----Original Message----- 
From: Leo
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:27 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] weber DCOE 40

Will a 40 DCOE work on a stock 1275?



Leo
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 12:05:11 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:05:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
Message-ID: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>

I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
David L

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 17 12:39:38 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:39:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <887031262.512723.1310927978808.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Glad to see you got there safely <G>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
> 
> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.

From rdgard at cox.net  Sun Jul 17 12:48:55 2011
From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:48:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 45 DCOE?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1310925608.8050.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9.1310925608.8050.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BB36CDDCFA01407FBDBAA99382FC530F@OfficePC>

What is your opinion (s) of a 45 DCOE on a 1275, hot cam, ported head, .040
over, headers.  Is it too much or is gas mileage the only down side.  Will
be mostly driven on street with some stoplight GP racing and some autocross
duty.  How hard to set up?  Necessary to take to an expert with rolling road
or just seat 'o the pants method?  That as opposed to two SU 1 1/4 inch
carbs. 

Thanks,

Beers,

bob

Robert D. Gardner
 
Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproductions.com

 ***********************************

From biffjones at verizon.net  Sun Jul 17 13:04:34 2011
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:04:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] DCOE 40 On a 1275
Message-ID: <B64FB785776C44839603AD9FC908911A@dell1>

Leo,

This was posted on SpriteSpot a while back:

DCOE setup
by JB ; Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:28 pm

Forest:

40 DCOE on a 1275 A motor.

Fuel milage will be down 5% from two SU's but drivabiliy should be good with
the right setup.

32 choke
4.5 aux venturi
140 main
F2 emulsion
175 air
45F9 idle
50 pump

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From peter at nosimport.com  Sun Jul 17 15:23:52 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:23:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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Trevor has made it and will call you shortly.  Save us some beer.

Peter
====
At 01:05 PM 7/17/2011, David Lieb wrote:
>I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
>up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
>David L
>_______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 15:48:54 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:48:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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No fears on the beers; you all can fight over my share.
David L

On Jul 17, 2011, at 16:24, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Trevor has made it and will call you shortly.  Save us some beer.
>
> Peter
> ====
> At 01:05 PM 7/17/2011, David Lieb wrote:
>> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
>> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
>> David L
>> _______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Jul 17 16:36:44 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:36:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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We have been here since Wednesday and have decided it's too damn hot and we
are just going back to California :-)
:-)

Larry & Sandi Miller

On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:48 PM, David Lieb wrote:

> No fears on the beers; you all can fight over my share.
> David L
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 16:24, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
>> Trevor has made it and will call you shortly.  Save us some beer.
>>
>> Peter
>> ====
>> At 01:05 PM 7/17/2011, David Lieb wrote:
>>> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
>>> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
>>> David L
>>> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 19:06:48 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:06:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 45 DCOE?
In-Reply-To: <BB36CDDCFA01407FBDBAA99382FC530F@OfficePC>
References: <mailman.9.1310925608.8050.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<BB36CDDCFA01407FBDBAA99382FC530F@OfficePC>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx78+cmH74NPRxc1YC6w1G9p_CE+Tr1N3Ay75MjQfuPUe8A@mail.gmail.com>

A Weber 45 should work well in that situation, but if I were buying
something for it I would buy a single HIF6 setup.
Rolling road is always best, or real time analyzing while driving, but
a carb is a carb and can be tuned without a dyno.

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Jul 17 20:14:42 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:14:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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PA & NJ contingent has just arrived at Victorian Vlg. Where can I park the
rig?  Help!

Phil Nase
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Jul 17, 2011, at 4:48 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> No fears on the beers; you all can fight over my share.
> David L
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 16:24, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
>> Trevor has made it and will call you shortly.  Save us some beer.
>>
>> Peter
>> ====
>> At 01:05 PM 7/17/2011, David Lieb wrote:
>>> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
>>> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
>>> David L
>>> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Jul 17 18:45:22 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:45:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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I've made it to Ludington, MI in the '79 Party Midget.  John Deikis should be
here any minute with his '68 Works Racer Midget.  Tomorrow morning we board
the ferry for the boat ride across   Lake Michigan.

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:

> We have been here since Wednesday and have decided it's too damn hot and we
> are just going back to California :-)
> :-)
>
> Larry & Sandi Miller
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:48 PM, David Lieb wrote:
>
>> No fears on the beers; you all can fight over my share.
>> David L
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2011, at 16:24, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Trevor has made it and will call you shortly.  Save us some beer.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>> ====
>>> At 01:05 PM 7/17/2011, David Lieb wrote:
>>>> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
>>>> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
>>>> David L
>>>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 21:05:54 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:05:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OUCH!!! Car related, but no LBC
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Wow Kate sorry to hear this I hope you heal fast. Glad Bonnie got the love
she deserved from that medic. Wish I could give you a hand but too far. Did
I see you carry a .380 : ) Good for you!
Keep us posted,
Lin

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:12 PM, <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Is not exactly what I said when I totaled my beloved Jeep Comanche this
> morning, but in the spirit of keeping this G rated, I'll leave my exact
> words to your imagination. I had a choice of hitting an elk that leaped out
> of a gulch and headed straight for me, or doing some offroading at 60 mph. I
> opted for the latter, so I am still here to talk about the experience.
>
> The deputy and the EMTs were marvelous. They even checked out Bonnie! The
> deputy even gave me back my .380 - unloaded. The lead EMT insisted that I go
> to the hospital, which is probably a good thing, as I now have a new
> fracture to add to my collection - my neck. Fortunately, at least in my
> opinion, it's a minor fracture and should heal with tincture of time and a
> very uncomfortable brace. Unfortunately, I left the only pain medicine that
> I am able to take, and was pulled from the market last spring, at home.
>
> The head nurse at the hospital was not at all happy about Bonnie being
> there with me, and wanted to call the deputy to take her to the pound. I
> wonder what part of the ADA she missed in nursing school? One of the EMTs
> took her home with him while I was being checked out, then drove us to the
> next town over to catch the bus to Lewiston. It seems that his wife has MS
> and discovered during their 4 hour visit just how much help a service dog
> can be. Bonnie had a ball! When she left she was shocky and still trembling
> something fierce, but she came back happy and ready to go to work.
>
> Now my problem is finding a way to get my truck home from McCall, ID. My
> big truck is still being worked on by an engineer friend of mine who is
> doing it a little bit at a time when he gets to Elko. The car trailer that I
> can borrow is too heavy for my Cherokee to pull even without Deuce on board.
>
> Kate
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jul 17 21:12:12 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:12:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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Lovin the updates : )
Lin


On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> I've made it to Ludington, MI in the '79 Party Midget.  John Deikis should
> be
> here any minute with his '68 Works Racer Midget.  Tomorrow morning we board
> the ferry for the boat ride across   Lake Michigan.
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We have been here since Wednesday and have decided it's too damn hot and
> we
> > are just going back to California :-)
> > :-)
> >
> > Larry & Sandi Miller
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:48 PM, David Lieb wrote:
> >
> >> No fears on the beers; you all can fight over my share.
> >> David L
> >>
> >> On Jul 17, 2011, at 16:24, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Trevor has made it and will call you shortly.  Save us some beer.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>> ====
> >>> At 01:05 PM 7/17/2011, David Lieb wrote:
> >>>> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
> >>>> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
> >>>> David L
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Jul 17 21:29:20 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:29:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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We went to a brewpub this evening and there were two Midgets with Ontario
plates parked in front.  Didn't get names but they said they're taking the
ferry to Wisconsin in the morning on their way to Elkhart Lake.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 17, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lovin the updates : )
> Lin

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 17 22:52:00 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 04:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <E4C2E789-2C00-4D04-9870-BF01A65751CC@chartermi.net>
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Any chance of some pictures for those of us that, for one reason or another, couldn't make the trip??

Even those taken with cell phones would be welcome... 

Thanks from 'Cinderella' Dave <G>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Jul 18 04:49:36 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 05:49:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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I'm expecting, that as with the Lake of the Ozarks event, people can 
post pictures to the Sprite-Midget Club web site.   
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/
There will be a DVD available as well.
Gotta leave for the event now!

Dave W.

Dave W.
"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org


On 7/17/2011 11:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> Any chance of some pictures for those of us that, for one reason or another, couldn't make the trip??
>
> Even those taken with cell phones would be welcome...
>
> Thanks from 'Cinderella' Dave<G>
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>   Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - in process :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> _______________________________________________
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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jul 18 05:22:40 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:22:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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Raining over here, West of y'all   Gentle rain. I have a roof.
See you soon
         Peter
==
At 05:49 AM 7/18/2011, Woerpel wrote:
>I'm expecting, that as with the Lake of the Ozarks event, people can 
>post pictures to the Sprite-Midget Club web site.
>http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/
>There will be a DVD available as well.
>Gotta leave for the event now!
>
>Dave W.
>
>Dave W.
>"Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
>July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
>http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
>
>
>On 7/17/2011 11:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
>>Any chance of some pictures for those of us that, for one reason or 
>>another, couldn't make the trip??
>>
>>Even those taken with cell phones would be welcome...
>>
>>Thanks from 'Cinderella' Dave<G>
>>
>>--
>>Dave G  KK7SS
>>   Richland, WA
>>
>>'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>>'65 Sprite - in process :(
>>'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
>>'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>>_______________________________________________
>>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jul 18 05:50:07 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:50:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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I don't see how to post to the website.  Jim?



Sent from my iPad

On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> I'm expecting, that as with the Lake of the Ozarks event, people can post
pictures to the Sprite-Midget Club web site.
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/
> There will be a DVD available as well.
> Gotta leave for the event now!
>
> Dave W.
>
> Dave W.
> "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
> July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
>
>
> On 7/17/2011 11:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
>> Any chance of some pictures for those of us that, for one reason or
another, couldn't make the trip??
>>
>> Even those taken with cell phones would be welcome...
>>
>> Thanks from 'Cinderella' Dave<G>
>>
>> --
>> Dave G  KK7SS
>>  Richland, WA

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 06:50:59 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:50:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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We had a massive thunderstorm last night, although the rain didn't
last long. I would be ok with that being the only rain this week...
David L

On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:51, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Raining over here, West of y'all   Gentle rain. I have a roof.
> See you soon
>        Peter
> ==
> At 05:49 AM 7/18/2011, Woerpel wrote:
>> I'm expecting, that as with the Lake of the Ozarks event, people can post pictures to the Sprite-Midget Club web site.
>> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/
>> There will be a DVD available as well.
>> Gotta leave for the event now!
>>
>> Dave W.
>>
>> Dave W.
>> "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
>> July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
>> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2011 11:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
>>> Any chance of some pictures for those of us that, for one reason or another, couldn't make the trip??
>>>
>>> Even those taken with cell phones would be welcome...
>>>
>>> Thanks from 'Cinderella' Dave<G>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave G  KK7SS
>>>  Richland, WA
>>>
>>> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>>> '65 Sprite - in process :(
>>> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
>>> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 06:52:37 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:52:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net>
Message-ID: <5486464488576266595@unknownmsgid>

The 2008 photos were added by Jim well after the fact. I don't believe
there is any mechanism for posting them there.
David L

On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:18, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> I'm expecting, that as with the Lake of the Ozarks event, people can post pictures to the Sprite-Midget Club web site.   http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/
> There will be a DVD available as well.
> Gotta leave for the event now!
>
> Dave W.
>
> Dave W.
> "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
> July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
>
>
> On 7/17/2011 11:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
>> Any chance of some pictures for those of us that, for one reason or another, couldn't make the trip??
>>
>> Even those taken with cell phones would be welcome...
>>
>> Thanks from 'Cinderella' Dave<G>
>>
>> --
>> Dave G  KK7SS
>>  Richland, WA
>>
>> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
>> '65 Sprite - in process :(
>> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
>> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 06:59:16 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:59:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net>
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Well, last night after loitering on the beach and at the Tiki Bar,
Bill Cantrall, Neil Anderson, Trevor Jessie and I drove over to St
Anna for some fabulous steaks at Schultze's. Upon returning, we also
saw the Clarici Clan, Larry Macy, Phil and Jane, and Tim Michnay. I
saw Steve Swarin's car, but not him. I heard rumors that Siebkins is
expecting an invasion of very short people this week...
David L

From lmacy at mac.com  Mon Jul 18 07:20:20 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:20:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>
References: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <8B527E54-5D2A-481D-8647-AB1762CAA3DF@mac.com>

We got "stuck" in the pub for that. were forced to have another beer. Forget
the name, had something to do with cows tho. Maybe it's made outta cheese!!

Larry
Still packed, have to change rooms :-( THis is a nice one, I would keep it.


On Jul 17, 2011, at 1:05 PM, David Lieb wrote:

> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
> David L
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Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
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Philadelphia, PA 19104

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Marx

From lmacy at mac.com  Mon Jul 18 07:23:33 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:23:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>
References: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3CA766C0-06E3-4A43-BA01-5F3643BF1125@mac.com>

Ya know, If you wore shoes, you wouldn't be so short!!

ED

On Jul 17, 2011, at 1:05 PM, David Lieb wrote:

> I have arrived and setup my campsite at the Sheboygan Marsh. Meeting
> up with some of the others for dinner tonight.
> David L
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Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening.  But this  wasn't it" --- Groucho
Marx

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 07:29:56 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:29:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Pics
Message-ID: <1310995796.34654.YahooMailClassic@web161218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Don't forget that Mark has given us a way to post pics in the Spridget forum: 
http://www.team.net/forums/

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 07:31:19 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:31:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <8B527E54-5D2A-481D-8647-AB1762CAA3DF@mac.com>
References: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>
	<8B527E54-5D2A-481D-8647-AB1762CAA3DF@mac.com>
Message-ID: <-4153385072931634197@unknownmsgid>

> We got "stuck" in the pub for that. were forced to have another beer. Forget the name, had something to do with cows tho. Maybe it's made outta cheese!!

Oh, didn't you know that beer production in Wisconsin is cow-based
rather than using Clydesdales?
BTW, I hear that there will be a sale on Miller Lite. Seems they
stocked up for someone who won't show up...
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 07:33:40 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:33:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <3CA766C0-06E3-4A43-BA01-5F3643BF1125@mac.com>
References: <8387733349995072334@unknownmsgid>
	<3CA766C0-06E3-4A43-BA01-5F3643BF1125@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3576592258448229009@unknownmsgid>

> Ya know, If you wore shoes, you wouldn't be so short!!

At least no one can see how short YOU are ;-)
Theresa

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 08:11:12 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] World's Best Dog
Message-ID: <1310998272.40384.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

http://www.wimp.com/usefuldog/

Rick



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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 18 08:15:15 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:15:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <502237808100515173@unknownmsgid>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net>
	<502237808100515173@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <8D998F0672374C9A8829B5E8B354C55C@HomePC>

Schultze's?  New place in St. Anna?  Next time you go there try Schwarz's. 
Great prime rib.  They're known for it!

LAD



-----Original Message----- 
From: David Lieb
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:59 AM
To: Woerpel
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th

Well, last night after loitering on the beach and at the Tiki Bar,
Bill Cantrall, Neil Anderson, Trevor Jessie and I drove over to St
Anna for some fabulous steaks at Schultze's. Upon returning, we also
saw the Clarici Clan, Larry Macy, Phil and Jane, and Tim Michnay. I
saw Steve Swarin's car, but not him. I heard rumors that Siebkins is
expecting an invasion of very short people this week...
David L
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 08:34:29 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:34:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <8D998F0672374C9A8829B5E8B354C55C@HomePC>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net> <502237808100515173@unknownmsgid>
	<8D998F0672374C9A8829B5E8B354C55C@HomePC>
Message-ID: <-1038177121899749883@unknownmsgid>

Yeah, that's the one! All those German names look the same when you have ADD.
David L

On Jul 18, 2011, at 9:15, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Schultze's?  New place in St. Anna?  Next time you go there try Schwarz's.
> Great prime rib.  They're known for it!
>
> LAD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Lieb
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:59 AM
> To: Woerpel
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
>
> Well, last night after loitering on the beach and at the Tiki Bar,
> Bill Cantrall, Neil Anderson, Trevor Jessie and I drove over to St
> Anna for some fabulous steaks at Schultze's. Upon returning, we also
> saw the Clarici Clan, Larry Macy, Phil and Jane, and Tim Michnay. I
> saw Steve Swarin's car, but not him. I heard rumors that Siebkins is
> expecting an invasion of very short people this week...
> David L
> _______________________________________________
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 10:30:06 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:30:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEKO5EyxEqrOJu5J2sCoB9300G=SKD0+tEdW16DTMph+6g@mail.gmail.com>

I have a video somewhere, DVD, of the story of Cuba and how they keep their
cars on the road.  They even make their own windshields in back alley
shops.   The extent of the things the Cuban's have gone through to keep
1950's vehicles on the road, and getting as good gas mileage as possible is
fascinating.

I will try to find the title and send it out if anyone is interested in
locating a copy. .  probably could be found at Amazon.

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 10:35:26 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:35:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Will a 40 DCOE work on a stock 1275?
Message-ID: <CAMyxPELx65nwqm5-B=qOZJzZCreji9tFkrGXz5fzm8js4oo4Ag@mail.gmail.com>

I bought my OER 45 (Japanese version of a DCOE 45) from Pierce in Gilroy.  I
gave them the info on my engine and they set it up to match. . so they
said.
It has run very well, smooth and dependable over the past 7 years.
Pierce Manifolds Inc
<http://www.kudzu.com/merchant/reviews/7883973.html><http://www.kudzu.com/addMerchantReview.do?merchantId=7883973>

321 Kishimura Dr
Gilroy, CA 95020
 Phone: (408) 842-6667

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 10:44:39 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:44:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <5486464488576266595@unknownmsgid>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net> <5486464488576266595@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuojmRcFvvKx9wPOH2yDtvYp=MdL6sQ66ePyggzSO0UNyA@mail.gmail.com>

Have my laptop rigged WiFi now so I can use it.... and feeling much better!


David is correct...  I suggest everyone who wants to have pictures post them
somewhere yourself and send me the link to them. I'll stick them on the club
website. We don't have a lot of room on Mike Rambour's donated server so
links are the best way to go.  I'll link to Larry Macy's set right now...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:52 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> The 2008 photos were added by Jim well after the fact. I don't believe
> there is any mechanism for posting them there.
> David L
>
> On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:18, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm expecting, that as with the Lake of the Ozarks event, people can post
> pictures to the Sprite-Midget Club web site.
> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/
> > There will be a DVD available as well.
> > Gotta leave for the event now!
> >
> > Dave W.
> >
> > Dave W.
> > "Be seeing you"...at the MG Midget 50th Anniversary
> > July 18-22, Elkhart Lake Wisconsin
> > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
> >
> >
> > On 7/17/2011 11:52 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> >> Any chance of some pictures for those of us that, for one reason or
> another, couldn't make the trip??
> >>
> >> Even those taken with cell phones would be welcome...
> >>
> >> Thanks from 'Cinderella' Dave<G>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave G  KK7SS
> >>  Richland, WA
> >>
> >> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> >> '65 Sprite - in process :(
> >> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> >> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 11:19:36 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:19:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Yank Tanks. . How the Cuban's Keep Their Cars on the
	Road
Message-ID: <CAMyxPE+4=WZS554MxeJs6=SB1NXAkc7P9sriAeod1+zuKU_HMg@mail.gmail.com>

The title to the aforementioned DVD regarding keeping cars alive in Cuba is
called *Yank Tanks*.  (I was actually able to find it after I got a request
from one of the list members . . surprise surprise).  It also has music by
the Buena Vista Social Club.

For what it is worth Entertainment Today called it "Complete Honest and
Engaging."   I found it to be very interesting.

Here it is on Amazon if any one might be interested:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Yank+Tan


Kirk

From clarici at verizon.net  Mon Jul 18 11:21:26 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:21:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEKO5EyxEqrOJu5J2sCoB9300G=SKD0+tEdW16DTMph+6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEKO5EyxEqrOJu5J2sCoB9300G=SKD0+tEdW16DTMph+6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <243C1CEE-6F79-4782-837E-943B12ED6CB8@verizon.net>

It's called Yank Tanks. It's available on Netflix.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a video somewhere, DVD, of the story of Cuba and how they keep their
> cars on the road.  They even make their own windshields in back alley
> shops.   The extent of the things the Cuban's have gone through to keep
> 1950's vehicles on the road, and getting as good gas mileage as possible is
> fascinating.
>
> I will try to find the title and send it out if anyone is interested in
> locating a copy. .  probably could be found at Amazon.
>
> Kirk
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 12:40:43 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:40:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEKO5EyxEqrOJu5J2sCoB9300G=SKD0+tEdW16DTMph+6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEKO5EyxEqrOJu5J2sCoB9300G=SKD0+tEdW16DTMph+6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0yY8Ohf_Wz_rUo-53nMfskNQriXidDkR-9HO5c2Q_Nzng@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Kirk Hargreaves
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
I have a video somewhere, DVD, of the story of Cuba and how they keep
their cars on the road.  They even make their own windshields in back
alley shops. The extent of the things the Cuban's have gone through to
keep 1950's vehicles on the road, and getting as good gas mileage as
possible is fascinating.
--------------------------------------------------------

Is this one of the cars?

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/Extrapics7/51Chevy.jpg

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jul 18 13:24:08 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:24:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
In-Reply-To: <243C1CEE-6F79-4782-837E-943B12ED6CB8@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20110718192408.TFRKK.601.root@cdptpa-web10-z01>

I found it on netflix, available on DVD or streaming, but the description says it is in spanish.

Spanish will soon be the official language of Texas and the rest of you guys will follow shortly, but I'm still not fluent in it.


> It's called Yank Tanks. It's available on Netflix.

From nases at verizon.net  Mon Jul 18 14:18:16 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:18:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuojmRcFvvKx9wPOH2yDtvYp=MdL6sQ66ePyggzSO0UNyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net> <5486464488576266595@unknownmsgid>
	<CAJgjnuojmRcFvvKx9wPOH2yDtvYp=MdL6sQ66ePyggzSO0UNyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7EC4CBCD-6F2A-47FF-9C37-0A4E4E037ABE@verizon.net>

Hi Jim.

Here's a link to my Midget 50th photos.  I'll update as I get more.  Thanks.
It''s a bit warm but much fun.

http://gallery.me.com/pnase#100146&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=5

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 14:40:55 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:40:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <7EC4CBCD-6F2A-47FF-9C37-0A4E4E037ABE@verizon.net>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net> <5486464488576266595@unknownmsgid>
	<CAJgjnuojmRcFvvKx9wPOH2yDtvYp=MdL6sQ66ePyggzSO0UNyA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7EC4CBCD-6F2A-47FF-9C37-0A4E4E037ABE@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupv7mLafaRGhNRq3LxuSa8rm9mo9sPsZ4kqvnfFr6DiXw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Phil.  No sympathy here RE the heat.  It is currently 105F on my
patio. So far 13 out of 18 days in July above 100 and the coolest day (July
7th) was way down to 91F.  ;-(

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi Jim.
>
> Here's a link to my Midget 50th photos.  I'll update as I get more.
>  Thanks.  It''s a bit warm but much fun.
>
> http://gallery.me.com/pnase#100146&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=5
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
Info & Registration here:
http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 14:44:19 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:44:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re:  Midget 50th
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Thanks, Biff....   Turned out to be 2 clicks of the mouse!!  It should work
now...

Cheers!!
Jim

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 15:14:52 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:14:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The heat in Elkhart Lake....
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I keep hearing complaints about the heat up there in Wisconsin.

Thought you'd like to see what its like here in western Kansas.

Cheers!!
Jim

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From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 15:56:16 2011
From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:56:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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glad to see the clarici family caravan (and friends) made it safely after
meeting them on I-80 in Pa..
to all , have fun and darn upset about not being
there! 

chuck.  



________________________________
From: Philip Nase
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To: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets at autox.
team. Net spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011
4:18:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th

Hi Jim.

Here's a link to my
Midget 50th photos.  I'll update as I get more.  Thanks.
It''s a bit warm but
much fun.

http://gallery.me.com/pnase#100146&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=5
Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



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From clarici at verizon.net  Mon Jul 18 16:15:16 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:15:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
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It has English subtitles.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I found it on netflix, available on DVD or streaming, but the description
says it is in spanish.
>
> Spanish will soon be the official language of Texas and the rest of you guys
will follow shortly, but I'm still not fluent in it.
>
>
>> It's called Yank Tanks. It's available on Netflix.
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 18 18:01:31 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:01:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
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Did they just run that stop sign???



>
> Is this one of the cars?
>
> http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/Extrapics7/51Chevy.jpg
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 18:13:03 2011
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:13:03 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] [Sprite-MidgetClub] Re:  Midget 50th
Message-ID: <322b7.6c0df873.3b56260f@aol.com>

Does one need to be a FaceBooker to view the photo's posted there? If so,  
I'll be SOL.
 
Howard
 
Still pissed not to be there.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 18 18:52:00 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:52:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Sprite-MidgetClub] Re:  Midget 50th
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Howard, don't know if this will work for you, but try it:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=142223202470509&v=photos




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Does one need to be a FaceBooker to view the photo's posted there? If so,
I'll be SOL.

Howard

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From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Mon Jul 18 19:45:42 2011
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:45:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes 66 Sprite
Message-ID: <42961fa25035f87bf37ba687ac44c886.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

After bleeding multiple times, replacing the master cylinder, the rear
flexible line and  couple hard lines, I finally brought it to the shop.
The mechanic said the pushrods from the old master cylinder were too
short. I didn't order new pushrods because i didn't think there was a
difference and the master cylinders look the same.  I ordered two from Vic
Brit just to see if there IS a difference.  Is anyone aware of two
different length pushrods?
Dick Byrne in NH

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 18 23:14:02 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:14:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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I'm finally ready to go. Burning too may candles at too many ends..haven't had
a day off in many weeks (weekends too)...body finally shut down today, whupped
my ass with a fever and other bad stuff...we couldn't get a dog sitter, lots
of tears tonight about Dad coming up solo, especially from Bobby who wanted to
give Diane a hug.  The green streetcar Bugeye is not coming, White Trash the
race car is (juming in the nice cool, clean Corvette was looking pretty good
at one point...we'll have Trash fun on a limited basis, anyway. Exhaust system
ripped off putting it on the trailer, it was one of those nights. I don't
think I have sweated like that in many many years. Wow.

 
RS
"That which you
manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog


________________________________
From: charles christ <crusaderchuck at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:56 PM
Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Midget 50th

glad to see the clarici family caravan (and friends)
made it safely after
meeting them on I-80 in Pa..
to all , have fun and darn
upset about not being
there! 

chuck.  



________________________________
From: Philip Nase
<nases at verizon.net>
To: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc:
"Spridgets at autox.
team. Net spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon,
July 18, 2011
4:18:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th

Hi Jim.

Here's
a link to my
Midget 50th photos.  I'll update as I get more.  Thanks.
It''s a
bit warm but
much fun.
http://gallery.me.com/pnase#100146&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=5
Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 03:39:55 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:39:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
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OMG that is so funny. Great photo are they carying it on their backs or are
they short? Looks uncomfortable but I am guessing those old Chevy's were
heavy.
Lin

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:01 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did they just run that stop sign???
>
>
>
> >
> > Is this one of the cars?
> >
> > http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/Extrapics7/51Chevy.jpg
> >
> > --
> > Kent
> > 1960 Bugeye
> > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
> > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 04:03:23 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:03:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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Hey Ron are you trailer-ing White Trash via your Vet : )
So the dog came with you? That should be an interesting photo.
We're all looking forward to more photos, those of us who are holding down
the LBC home front ; )
Safety, Fast,
Lin

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm finally ready to go. Burning too may candles at too many ends..haven't
> had
> a day off in many weeks (weekends too)...body finally shut down today,
> whupped
> my ass with a fever and other bad stuff...we couldn't get a dog sitter,
> lots
> of tears tonight about Dad coming up solo, especially from Bobby who wanted
> to
> give Diane a hug.  The green streetcar Bugeye is not coming, White Trash
> the
> race car is (juming in the nice cool, clean Corvette was looking pretty
> good
> at one point...we'll have Trash fun on a limited basis, anyway. Exhaust
> system
> ripped off putting it on the trailer, it was one of those nights. I don't
> think I have sweated like that in many many years. Wow.
>
>
> RS
> "That which you
> manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: charles christ <crusaderchuck at yahoo.com>
> To: spridgets
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re:
> [Spridgets] Midget 50th
>
> glad to see the clarici family caravan (and friends)
> made it safely after
> meeting them on I-80 in Pa..
> to all , have fun and darn
> upset about not being
> there!
>
> chuck.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Philip Nase
> <nases at verizon.net>
> To: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Cc:
> "Spridgets at autox.
> team. Net spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon,
> July 18, 2011
> 4:18:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
>
> Hi Jim.
>
> Here's
> a link to my
> Midget 50th photos.  I'll update as I get more.  Thanks.
> It''s a
> bit warm but
> much fun.
> http://gallery.me.com/pnase#100146&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=5
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>
>
>
> On Jul 18,
> 2011, at
> 12:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 04:15:27 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:15:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes 66 Sprite
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Dick,
I'm confused why would it make a difference if you have the new one is the
new MC not working?
Lin

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:45 PM, <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net> wrote:

> After bleeding multiple times, replacing the master cylinder, the rear
> flexible line and  couple hard lines, I finally brought it to the shop.
> The mechanic said the pushrods from the old master cylinder were too
> short. I didn't order new pushrods because i didn't think there was a
> difference and the master cylinders look the same.  I ordered two from Vic
> Brit just to see if there IS a difference.  Is anyone aware of two
> different length pushrods?
> Dick Byrne in NH
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From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 19 04:31:39 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:31:39 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba
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Isn 't that leg at the front left corner a match to that at the front right?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
To: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Kirk Hargreaves" 
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cars in Cuba


> Did they just run that stop sign???
>
>
>
>>
>> Is this one of the cars?
>>
>> http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/Extrapics7/51Chevy.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Kent
>> 1960 Bugeye
>> 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
>> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 06:20:08 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:20:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] over 2100 miles to Elkhart Lake
Message-ID: <CABWjhcJvWfRiBNt3pfXbeFjj7TMPksGrxaTP5urN2nWvgEzbjw@mail.gmail.com>

We made it at last at about 9:30pm last night.
My son Peter and I started out last Friday, averaging a little more than 500
miles per day.
The Frogeye Midget ran great, while driving safe and sane around 60 mph it
got great mileage.
>From 37 mpg to 40 mpg.
When driving a 'bit' more spirited it dropped below 30 mpg.
Like one time yesterday when we had to pull off for a "Dad we have to stop -
NOW" break.
I pulled off onto an exit that had no onramp back onto the freeway.
The emergency dealt with then the question was - how to get back on the
road?
Peter suggested "you can back up".
So we did and then had to drive a bit more spirited than usual to catch up
to the other cars.
We were traveling with BillM, KurtA and MikeB.
I'm not saying how fast we went, but it wasn't faster than I felt safe per
the road conditions.
After checking in we went over to the Lake Street Cafe and had dinner, I had
a local brew and Peter had Root Beer on tap from the same brewery. We met
PeterC and Dave Lieb and several others there, all sitting at a long table
right up front talking LBC smack.
It was GREAT!

Here is our blog and Picasa site:

http://frogeyemidget.blogspot.com/
https://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo

Rick & Peter Bastedo

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jul 19 08:04:19 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:04:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes 66 Sprite
In-Reply-To: <42961fa25035f87bf37ba687ac44c886.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <42961fa25035f87bf37ba687ac44c886.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <182154453.20110719070419@pacifier.com>

Hello Lindalnhvt,

     I am aware of the difference. ..


     the "receiver" of the E-brake cable on my '66 was bunged up since
     I got the car. It's that little odd shaped piece that bolts to
     the frame into which the cable sheaf ends. It's where the
     adjuster nut for the e-brake does it's thing. Mine was bunged
     enough to make it very difficult to make those adjustments. That
     part is not in any catalog and there's really no reason for
     anyone to ever remove one so they're very hard to obtain, making
     replacement problematical.

     I looked at swap meets for years and finally one showed up,
     complete with PUSH RODS! I really wanted the little pins too so
     YIPPEE!

     This spring was my chance to replace that housing so I figured
     since I was doing that I could do a brake job at the same time. I
     replaced the housing and rods all as one piece but when we tried
     to hook up the RODS to the brakes, they were too SHORT! one side
     fit but the other was never going to make it. I went back under,
     took the rods off and we compared. Sure enough; different sizes.

     I've heard that many people thread those rods and put in a
     turnbuckle to make adjusting the e-brake less of a chore, but
     perhaps they've replaced rods and found what you and I now know
     and need the extra length. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Heredity is what sets parents of a teenager wondering about each other. 

From bertshirey at zoominternet.net  Tue Jul 19 08:05:01 2011
From: bertshirey at zoominternet.net (Bert Shirey)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:05:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MC Push Rods
Message-ID: <58A416897DFC4DF4BCF6B08A0B526EBC@yourw92p4bhlzg>

Guys and Gals,

    The Master cylinder push rod mix-up business caused my buddy and me a lot
of grief when doing his MGA a while ago.

      The 3/4" and 7/8" MCs do not use the same length rods. Rods for the 3/4"
is shorter than the 7/8" and they are not interchangeable And because the MCs
outwardly look the same, it`s easy to mix-up the rods. Also, since the 7/8" MC
used on the drum brake systems is still available new and will work on the
disc brake cars, supposedly correct replacement rods you order for the 3/4"
may be incorrect.

       You can adjust the effective length of the rod but not enough.

       Too long rods will overthrow the bores and at least make a mess while
preventing bleeding. More likely they will wreck the rebuild. Too short, and
the pistons will not travel enough to bleed.

      In the case of the A, we sent the original 7/8" MC off for a rebuild. We
were unaware that a 3/4" was returned in error. The longer rods ruined our day
right up to the start of Happy Hour, when the whole screw up didn`t seem so
bad after all.

Bert Shirey
66 Midget 1098/60 Bugeye

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Tue Jul 19 08:24:59 2011
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:24:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Master brake cylinder pushrods
Message-ID: <a198183310a28b4f92bc48060f786f65.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Thanks to those of you who replied and confirmed that there are two
lengths of pushrods. I ordered the set currently in the Vic Brit catalog,
but they are backordered. Anyone know a different source?
Thanks
Dick Byrne in NH

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 10:22:54 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:22:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Master brake cylinder pushrods
In-Reply-To: <a198183310a28b4f92bc48060f786f65.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <a198183310a28b4f92bc48060f786f65.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <CAM6-RjdCFf5eP-=Yo_RJPYpgV8Kg-YOsUqxRBsrMpB6pzSyrrg@mail.gmail.com>

Dick,
Did you try Gerard's site?
Hal

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:24 AM, <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net> wrote:

> Thanks to those of you who replied and confirmed that there are two
> lengths of pushrods. I ordered the set currently in the Vic Brit catalog,
> but they are backordered. Anyone know a different source?
> Thanks
> Dick Byrne in NH
> _______________________________________________
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jul 19 11:47:09 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:47:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pushrods
In-Reply-To: <42961fa25035f87bf37ba687ac44c886.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <42961fa25035f87bf37ba687ac44c886.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <10910421072.20110719104709@pacifier.com>

Hello Lindalnhvt,

     I have a pair if you want that I took out. They're not the
     prettiest, but could clean up. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I haven't had any tooth decay yet," said Tom precariously.

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 19 12:25:02 2011
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:25:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes 66 Sprite
In-Reply-To: <182154453.20110719070419@pacifier.com>
References: <42961fa25035f87bf37ba687ac44c886.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
	<182154453.20110719070419@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <20110719182519.A60FD18764D@autox.team.net>

The rods used for the hand brake are different on the steel wheel 
rear than on the wire wheel rear. The info below is copied from my 
Sprite Specs Document that will someday make it to a web site I plan to create.

I removed the entire hand brake assembly when I installed the Panhard 
bar on my 67 steel wheel vintage race Midget. I have the complete set 
of parts. I also have 7 parts cars both wire and steel wheel, so if 
you need the parts, let me know.

Bob Spruck


REAR AXLE ASSEMBLY
                                          DIMENSION 
MEASUREMENT POINTS

STEEL WHEEL DIFF ASSY
Over all width*                  41 3/4" 
(41.75")                 From inside of brake backing plate flange to 
inside of opposite flange
Left Hand Brake rod         14 3/4" (14.75")                 From 
center to center of clevis pin holes
Right Hand Brake Rod     26 1/4" (26.25")                 From center 
to center of clevis pin holes

WIRE WHEEL DIFF ASSY
Over all width*                  40 3/4" (40.75")                From 
inside of brake backing plate flange to inside of opposite flange
Left Hand Brake rod         14 " (14.00")                     From 
center to center of clevis pin holes
Right Hand Brake Rod     26 " (26.00")                     From 
center to center of clevis pin holes

         *Wire wheel assembly is 1" narrower than steel wheel assy
         *Wire wheel and steel wheel rear hubs are same except for stud length


At 10:04 AM 7/19/2011, you wrote:
>Hello Lindalnhvt,
>
>      I am aware of the difference. ..
>
>
>      the "receiver" of the E-brake cable on my '66 was bunged up since
>      I got the car. It's that little odd shaped piece that bolts to
>      the frame into which the cable sheaf ends. It's where the
>      adjuster nut for the e-brake does it's thing. Mine was bunged
>      enough to make it very difficult to make those adjustments. That
>      part is not in any catalog and there's really no reason for
>      anyone to ever remove one so they're very hard to obtain, making
>      replacement problematical.
>
>      I looked at swap meets for years and finally one showed up,
>      complete with PUSH RODS! I really wanted the little pins too so
>      YIPPEE!
>
>      This spring was my chance to replace that housing so I figured
>      since I was doing that I could do a brake job at the same time. I
>      replaced the housing and rods all as one piece but when we tried
>      to hook up the RODS to the brakes, they were too SHORT! one side
>      fit but the other was never going to make it. I went back under,
>      took the rods off and we compared. Sure enough; different sizes.
>
>      I've heard that many people thread those rods and put in a
>      turnbuckle to make adjusting the e-brake less of a chore, but
>      perhaps they've replaced rods and found what you and I now know
>      and need the extra length.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 19 21:43:04 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:43:04 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupv7mLafaRGhNRq3LxuSa8rm9mo9sPsZ4kqvnfFr6DiXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1880768574.517117.1310964720753.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E240FC0.1010201@wi.net> <5486464488576266595@unknownmsgid>
	<CAJgjnuojmRcFvvKx9wPOH2yDtvYp=MdL6sQ66ePyggzSO0UNyA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7EC4CBCD-6F2A-47FF-9C37-0A4E4E037ABE@verizon.net>
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Great pictures Phil!  Way too many of the old man, tho.

We miss you Jim, wish you could be here in the frozen tundra! ;-) Only 95
today.  Great people and great cars!

Get well soon,
Dave

> Thanks, Phil.  No sympathy here RE the heat.  It is currently 105F on my
> patio. So far 13 out of 18 days in July above 100 and the coolest day
> (July
> 7th) was way down to 91F.  ;-(
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim.
>>
>> Here's a link to my Midget 50th photos.  I'll update as I get more.
>>  Thanks.  It''s a bit warm but much fun.
>>
>> http://gallery.me.com/pnase#100146&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=5
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Quakertown, PA
>> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
> Don't miss the BIG PARTY!!  Midget 50th Anniversary!
> Elkhart Lake, WI  July 18-22, 2011
> Info & Registration here:
> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 22:16:07 2011
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:16:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The heat in Elkhart Lake....
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnurgN6cVYhOxCMc3sNTYHOONcCzwzEoYSTi-WFWwSyc=0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJgjnurgN6cVYhOxCMc3sNTYHOONcCzwzEoYSTi-WFWwSyc=0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANx9iMP0A3zggFa6UoEvGB2tknPNx7UziGJNWncGCqdb-EEBMw@mail.gmail.com>

Obviously the attachment didn't come thru ... is this it Jim?   ;-)

http://goo.gl/Qwy8E


On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I keep hearing complaints about the heat up there in Wisconsin.
>
> Thought you'd like to see what its like here in western Kansas.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ice_cream_truck.jpg]

From lmacy at mac.com  Wed Jul 20 07:38:24 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:38:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Pic
Message-ID: <ACAD4FEE-B89A-418A-AE9D-FB6AEB5CD03D@mac.com>

 I need to get a copy of the picture from the Buster Cluster of all the OSHITers lifting Buster's car. 

Anyone that has a good Hi-Res copy, please send it. I'll be at the track all day so I won't answer until this evening. 

I'll prolly get a dozen or so now ;-) So CC the list so if someone already sent it, you don't have to.

THanks

Larry

-- 

Don't you love it when your brain knows what's right, and your fingers don't listen?

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy at upenn.edu
Senior IT Program Director
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 20 07:47:33 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there anyone,,,,,,,,,
In-Reply-To: <1329940428.606308.1311169594684.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <278731884.606333.1311169653472.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

who can dolly or trailer my Jeep Comanche from McCall, ID to Portland, Or? Anywhere in between where it could be stored free until I can go pick it up would be fantastic. I just need to get him out of the wrecking yard before he racks up a huge storage bill.

Checking the damage on Monday, I think that with the help of some wrecking yard Cherokees I can put him back together. The front axle is damaged, but I have a new one in my driveway. The frame appears straight, as does most of the pickup bed.

This little guy saved my life, and I believe he deserves better than to be sent to the crusher. I hope that one of you great guys will be able to help us.

Thanks,

Kate

From biffjones at verizon.net  Wed Jul 20 08:48:15 2011
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:48:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Pic
References: <ACAD4FEE-B89A-418A-AE9D-FB6AEB5CD03D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <E9E1BC9EAD55439A83EF31C09CE3477D@dell1>

Larry,

Here is a copy 


Biff

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of BusterCluster_large.jpg]

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 20 10:13:48 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:13:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Pic
In-Reply-To: <ACAD4FEE-B89A-418A-AE9D-FB6AEB5CD03D@mac.com>
References: <ACAD4FEE-B89A-418A-AE9D-FB6AEB5CD03D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <02cd01cc46f8$022a92c0$067fb840$@net>

Larry...

Here you go (also one of Frank wearing the cat skin).  If you need a higher
rez, give me a call at (714) 520-5950, and I will have Al Clemens send you
one.

Buster

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 096.jpg]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 077.jpg]

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 14:05:05 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:05:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Gatsby-Cabriolet-like-kit-car-Corvette-frame-Chevrolet-/290588613223?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a86e5a67#v4-36

Sorry, I'm too lazy to figure out the tiny url thing Ed!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jul 20 14:42:15 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:42:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3604A652-BB22-4E28-A2CE-EE7BE5FA7000@comcast.net>

Wow.

That's just plain Fugly to the bone...

Another reason why you should not build that car you designed in middle
school

Lester


On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:05 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:

>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Gatsby-Cabriolet-like-kit-car-Corvet
te-frame-Chevrolet-/290588613223?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a86e5a67#v4-36
>
> Sorry, I'm too lazy to figure out the tiny url thing Ed!
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
> _______________________________________________
>
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Wed Jul 20 16:00:11 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:00:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Brakes 66 Sprite
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1311184806.16672.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1311184806.16672.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <6E711C14-40D8-4019-AD32-EA637D08AACD@gerardsgarage.com>

Bob,

I don't know if you remember, but there is a page on my web site of  
data you put together years ago.

http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/SpridgetSpecsWS.htm

You'll see that you are credited as the source.

Gerard
http://gerardsgarage.com/


On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:25:02 -0400
> From: Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net>
> To: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brakes 66 Sprite
> Message-ID: <20110719182519.A60FD18764D at autox.team.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> The rods used for the hand brake are different on the steel wheel
> rear than on the wire wheel rear. The info below is copied from my
> Sprite Specs Document that will someday make it to a web site I plan  
> to create.
>
> I removed the entire hand brake assembly when I installed the Panhard
> bar on my 67 steel wheel vintage race Midget. I have the complete set
> of parts. I also have 7 parts cars both wire and steel wheel, so if
> you need the parts, let me know.
>
> Bob Spruck
>
>
> REAR AXLE ASSEMBLY
>                                          DIMENSION
> MEASUREMENT POINTS
>
> STEEL WHEEL DIFF ASSY
> Over all width*                  41 3/4"
> (41.75")                 From inside of brake backing plate flange to
> inside of opposite flange
> Left Hand Brake rod         14 3/4" (14.75")                 From
> center to center of clevis pin holes
> Right Hand Brake Rod     26 1/4" (26.25")                 From center
> to center of clevis pin holes
>
> WIRE WHEEL DIFF ASSY
> Over all width*                  40 3/4" (40.75")                From
> inside of brake backing plate flange to inside of opposite flange
> Left Hand Brake rod         14 " (14.00")                     From
> center to center of clevis pin holes
> Right Hand Brake Rod     26 " (26.00")                     From
> center to center of clevis pin holes
>
>         *Wire wheel assembly is 1" narrower than steel wheel assy
>         *Wire wheel and steel wheel rear hubs are same except for  
> stud length

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 16:42:30 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:42:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
In-Reply-To: <3604A652-BB22-4E28-A2CE-EE7BE5FA7000@comcast.net>
References: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3604A652-BB22-4E28-A2CE-EE7BE5FA7000@comcast.net>
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Did the builder come down off the LSD trip yet?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Wow.
>
> That's just plain Fugly to the bone...
>
> Another reason why you should not build that car you designed in middle
> school
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:05 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:
>
> >
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Gatsby-Cabriolet-like-kit-car-Corvet
>
> te-frame-Chevrolet-/290588613223?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a86e5a67#v4-36
> >
> > Sorry, I'm too lazy to figure out the tiny url thing Ed!
> >
> > --
> > Kent
> > 1960 Bugeye
> > 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
> > 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 17:42:17 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:42:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuq3ORuX9skaecfKfK-DDKVzP0cQFRqJ9j=CVgWtFeeZ7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3604A652-BB22-4E28-A2CE-EE7BE5FA7000@comcast.net>
	<CAJgjnuq3ORuX9skaecfKfK-DDKVzP0cQFRqJ9j=CVgWtFeeZ7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM6-Rjeo4z0-3pAToPyPkEgmjjyWSS6w-tw0CSb2+5GF=8yayw@mail.gmail.com>

Is that a chrome bumper model or RB?
Hal

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Wed Jul 20 19:10:15 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:10:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 50, Issue 36
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1311184806.16672.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1311184806.16672.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <01F1D16D-0A59-4905-9CE9-B92861456E93@gerardsgarage.com>

Larry Miller has one on his web site:

http://www.ado13.com/BusterCluster_large.jpg

Gerard

On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:38:24 -0500
> From: Macy Larry <lmacy at mac.com>
> To: Spridgets net <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Pic
> Message-ID: <ACAD4FEE-B89A-418A-AE9D-FB6AEB5CD03D at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>
> I need to get a copy of the picture from the Buster Cluster of all  
> the OSHITers lifting Buster's car.
>
> Anyone that has a good Hi-Res copy, please send it. I'll be at the  
> track all day so I won't answer until this evening.
>
> I'll prolly get a dozen or so now ;-) So CC the list so if someone  
> already sent it, you don't have to.
>
> THanks
>
> Larry

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 19:39:55 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:39:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] over 2100 miles to Elkhart Lake
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJvWfRiBNt3pfXbeFjj7TMPksGrxaTP5urN2nWvgEzbjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJvWfRiBNt3pfXbeFjj7TMPksGrxaTP5urN2nWvgEzbjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVeZYTcr1LKaqPTd9NfD_=N_o-ZM7M2sA2z-LQAW+dmy=g@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome Rick, glad your son is getting into it too.
I'll read the blog and spend more time with the photos tomorrow. I like how
you have your Blog & photos set up for us to enjoy.
Have fun, Lin

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> We made it at last at about 9:30pm last night.
> My son Peter and I started out last Friday, averaging a little more than
> 500
> miles per day.
> The Frogeye Midget ran great, while driving safe and sane around 60 mph it
> got great mileage.
> From 37 mpg to 40 mpg.
> When driving a 'bit' more spirited it dropped below 30 mpg.
> Like one time yesterday when we had to pull off for a "Dad we have to stop
> -
> NOW" break.
> I pulled off onto an exit that had no onramp back onto the freeway.
> The emergency dealt with then the question was - how to get back on the
> road?
> Peter suggested "you can back up".
> So we did and then had to drive a bit more spirited than usual to catch up
> to the other cars.
> We were traveling with BillM, KurtA and MikeB.
> I'm not saying how fast we went, but it wasn't faster than I felt safe per
> the road conditions.
> After checking in we went over to the Lake Street Cafe and had dinner, I
> had
> a local brew and Peter had Root Beer on tap from the same brewery. We met
> PeterC and Dave Lieb and several others there, all sitting at a long table
> right up front talking LBC smack.
> It was GREAT!
>
> Here is our blog and Picasa site:
>
> http://frogeyemidget.blogspot.com/
> https://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo
>
> Rick & Peter Bastedo
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 19:47:34 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:47:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
In-Reply-To: <CAM6-Rjeo4z0-3pAToPyPkEgmjjyWSS6w-tw0CSb2+5GF=8yayw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<3604A652-BB22-4E28-A2CE-EE7BE5FA7000@comcast.net>
	<CAJgjnuq3ORuX9skaecfKfK-DDKVzP0cQFRqJ9j=CVgWtFeeZ7A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM6-Rjeo4z0-3pAToPyPkEgmjjyWSS6w-tw0CSb2+5GF=8yayw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVc+Vap83TucqFgiJ_T6sOgudArGknSw2Es-K9QqcJ-cvg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to puke now!
Someone put that poor Spridget out of it's misery.
Lin

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is that a chrome bumper model or RB?
> Hal
> _______________________________________________
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 20:10:20 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:10:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Peter and Rick's Excellent Adventure!
In-Reply-To: <1310301310.477179.1310600343979.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <CABWjhcJGBxFE=Yo1bUnvgHmwN3kk2heXfQrcKxPq=AAr76NE9w@mail.gmail.com>
	<1310301310.477179.1310600343979.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVddxYXBGBJPnUKs4EOpt1ZQM71vfhJNvHLPEdMrQX=_cA@mail.gmail.com>

Looks great Rick, keep posting.
Lin

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Dave KK7SS <kk7ss at frontier.com> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> I already belong to too many 'social' networks to join one more :)
> But I've bookmarked the page... considered me "friend'ed"  ;^D
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>  Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - in process :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>
> ----- "Rick Bastedo" <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you like you can follow along here:
>
> > http://frogeyemidget.blogspot.com
> _______________________________________________
>
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From nases at verizon.net  Wed Jul 20 20:29:17 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:29:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Road america today,
	Elkhart Lake Midget 50th pics updated
In-Reply-To: <D130A15F-AF30-4471-9F0C-43F756AC6678@gmail.com>
References: <7835F8D0-7202-4306-970F-7DD07339C07F@me.com>
	<D130A15F-AF30-4471-9F0C-43F756AC6678@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55205FDB-E9BD-4BEE-9965-A49E124FDDED@verizon.net>

Hey Kevin and listers.  It was very very cool but I bet track temps were near
100*.  Jane held the camera in the car.  If you go to my previous mobile me
link and this new one you will see the pace car, Ron Soave and John Deikis
blow my doors in, in the kink.  There are also lots of autocross vids of Ron,
Larry, Frankie, Tiffany and me on the course at my previously posted mobile me
link.  It was a wonderful day full of sensory overload.

It's still uploading you may want to wait awhile to view.

We were limited to 70 mph and allowed to pass on the straights only.  Ron and
John started back and worked their way through the field and got behind the
pace car.  The pace car driver got word on his radio that he was being caught.
He then could tell that Ron and John had lots of racing skills and sped up
allowing them to go up to 85 or so.

Jane and I thought the session was over and pulled off to find we had one more
lap if we could get out in front of the pace car and we did.  The 3 speedy
guys caught us at the kink.  Sooooo Cool.

Here;s the new link:
http://gallery.mac.com/pnase#100149/IMG_0367&bgcolor=black

Here's the old link with all the pics and
vids:http://gallery.mac.com/pnase#100146&bgcolor=black&view=grid

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/




On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:


> Looks COOL!
>
> Who was taking the pictures?
>
> Kev
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Phil Nase wrote:
>
>> Wow. That was fun.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Jul 21 10:02:31 2011
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:02:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Engine
Message-ID: <9c4a79$cpusfr@email.mtu.edu>

Looking for a 1275 engine?
Take a look at this. I have no interest in this sale. Don't know the seller.
http://lansing.craigslist.org/pts/2501231166.html

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Jul 21 10:21:17 2011
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:21:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Song at R.A.
Message-ID: <9c4a79$cpv224@email.mtu.edu>

Just saw on the news that several Chevy owners groups are meeting in 
Flint to celebrate Chevy anniversaries, etc. The reporter had them 
sing; "See the USA in your Chevrolet . . ."  What are you guys 
singing at Road America?

Kinda ironic that the Spridget folks, who like guns, are meeting at 
R.A. where they don't need them. Maybe the Chevy guys took their guns 
to Flint - where they need them!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 21 10:47:42 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:47:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
Message-ID: <3ce6e.565a583d.3b59b22e@aol.com>

Could be a parts car and crush what's left over?
 
Where is Ed? Haven't seen any postings from him for a while.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
 
In a message dated 20/07/2011 21:30:30 GMT Daylight Time,  
cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com writes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Gatsby-Cabriolet-like-kit-car-Corve
tte-frame-Chevrolet-/290588613223?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a86e5a67#v4-3
6

Sorry,  I'm too lazy to figure out the tiny url thing Ed!

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Jul 21 12:03:11 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:03:11 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Song at R.A.
References: <9c4a79$cpv224@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <0AB8073F7576442C9DB98CB280D456C7@user8634b3d69b>

There is only one  ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=437ZUEiCaig



Enjoy



Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Collins" <>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:21 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Song at R.A.


> Just saw on the news that several Chevy owners groups are meeting in 
> Flint to celebrate Chevy anniversaries, etc. The reporter had them 
> sing; "See the USA in your Chevrolet . . ."  What are you guys 
> singing at Road America?
> 
> Kinda ironic that the Spridget folks, who like guns, are meeting at 
> R.A. where they don't need them. Maybe the Chevy guys took their guns 
> to Flint - where they need them!
> 
> Tim Collins
> / 
> _______________________________________________

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 21 14:18:38 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Song at R.A.
In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cpv224@email.mtu.edu>
References: <9c4a79$cpv224@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <1311279518.66615.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Tim Collins:  What are you guys singing at Road America?
 
Only one song comes
to mind...
 
Been drivin' all night, my hand's wet on the wheel.
There's a
voice in my head that drives my heel.
It's my baby callin', says I need you
here.
It's half past four and I'm shifting gear...
 
 - David Booker
wish I
was at the 50th instead of on Long Island

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 14:39:01 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:39:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Song at R.A.
In-Reply-To: <1311279518.66615.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <9c4a79$cpv224@email.mtu.edu>
	<1311279518.66615.YahooMailNeo@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-QW0DK_+ugPFU=eK7cv-As2jb9eUK9ZAoHzu8ATd6KrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Pappy said son you gonna drive me to drinkin if you don't stop driving
that Hot Rod Lincoln

This is an incredible version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGpr-Zy_wRs

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 16:39:56 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:39:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
In-Reply-To: <3ce6e.565a583d.3b59b22e@aol.com>
References: <3ce6e.565a583d.3b59b22e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r_TLEkcD_Oy-85yU8Ebu5C9jYcg4aYC1j22_LVgdVoMhQ@mail.gmail.com>

I also am wondering about Ed. I am in need of brakes for my car, so I called
him, since I heard that he was not attending the festivities. He has yet to
respond. All the FLAPS around here tell me that the brakes are NLA, except
for one place that can order them out of Houston for $110 front and rear.
I think I'll order from PPP, next week.....

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:47 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> Could be a parts car and crush what's left over?
>
> Where is Ed? Haven't seen any postings from him for a while.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
>
> In a message dated 20/07/2011 21:30:30 GMT Daylight Time,
> cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com writes:
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Gatsby-Cabriolet-like-kit-car-Corve
>
> tte-frame-Chevrolet-/290588613223?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a86e5a67#v4-3
> 6
>
> Sorry,  I'm too lazy to figure out the tiny url thing Ed!
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jul 21 21:32:30 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:32:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Xq+0wPFGQ_0SaEeV+y1cVKDKMEV9GukCwTqfCeEjES1waoZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D1EB49FB67A4A27906C89350FF06B0E@blackbox2>

I think this surpasses the "chitty chitty bang bang" spridget we saw some
time ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:05 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Is this on the track at the 50th? Scary LBC content.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-Gatsby-Cabriolet-like-kit-car-Corve
tte-frame-Chevrolet-/290588613223?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43a86e5a67#v4-3
6

Sorry, I'm too lazy to figure out the tiny url thing Ed!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 04:00:11 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:00:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
Message-ID: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I got my Frank stickers yesterday and have one posted in the back window of
the Frontier now. What a great job - very high quality. Can't wait to explain
what it is about to the first person who asks about it.
 
Thank you Diane and
Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at all to do
with them.
 
David Booker
Long Island
 
Hope everybody Got, is getting, or
gets home uneventfully from the 50th!

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Fri Jul 22 05:39:55 2011
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:39:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
Message-ID: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

I agree. The Frank stickers are awesome! Thank you!. In addition to the
Sprite, my 53 Chevy picup will proudly wear one.
DIck B. in NH

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 06:22:33 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:22:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid>

I noticed that one of them already graces a wall in Siebkins bar in
Elkhart Lake. Very appropriate.
David L

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 06:52:58 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:52:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E10437B4-CFD1-4DEF-94E0-CD5DF7E1B2F6@gmail.com>

I need to thank Phil Nase.  The stickers were his idea.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa



On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:00 AM, David Booker wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Diane and
> Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at  
> all to do
> with them.

From pchast at francomm.com  Fri Jul 22 07:10:17 2011
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:10:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <E10437B4-CFD1-4DEF-94E0-CD5DF7E1B2F6@gmail.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E10437B4-CFD1-4DEF-94E0-CD5DF7E1B2F6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.vy0uvfubsjevdj@pete200>

Thanks Phil




On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:52:58 -0400, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>  
wrote:

>
> I need to thank Phil Nase.  The stickers were his idea.
>
> Kevin V.
> Tuscarora, Pa
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:00 AM, David Booker wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you Diane and
>> Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at
>> all to do
>> with them.
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From lmacy at mac.com  Fri Jul 22 07:34:58 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid>
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Actually there are 2. One is over the door by the Speedwell sticker (very appropriate) and the other is by the light switch towards  the door to the screen porch. Which, I was informed, Frank, Ron and Peter got kicked out of for being too loud.

Larry

On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:22 AM, David Lieb wrote:

> I noticed that one of them already graces a wall in Siebkins bar in
> Elkhart Lake. Very appropriate.
> David L
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macy at upenn.edu
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Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 07:40:15 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <E549418A-1745-42E3-B1BA-0F73EC822AF6@mac.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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We were laughing too hard, like you, Phil, Diane and crew were when were
storytelling/Frankmail reading on Tuesday night. I will never miss a night at
Siebkens when I am in Elkhart. 


I know it is too much, but Fall Festival
race is Sept 9-11. We will be there with my newly stickered car and helmet.

 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
________________________________
From: Macy Larry <lmacy at mac.com>
To: David
Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
Cc: spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Friday, July 22, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
Actually there are 2. One is over the door by the Speedwell sticker (very
appropriate) and the other is by the light switch towards  the door to the
screen porch. Which, I was informed, Frank, Ron and Peter got kicked out of
for being too loud.

Larry

On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:22 AM, David Lieb wrote:

>
I noticed that one of them already graces a wall in Siebkins bar in
> Elkhart
Lake. Very appropriate.
> David L
>
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macy at upenn.edu
Senior IT Program Director
Neuropsychiatry
Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. -
10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 22 07:40:58 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:40:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <E549418A-1745-42E3-B1BA-0F73EC822AF6@mac.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com><-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid>
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We didn't get kicked out, but we were admonished for having too much fun.

LAD



-----Original Message----- 
From: Macy Larry
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:34 AM
To: David Lieb
Cc: spridget
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!

Actually there are 2. One is over the door by the Speedwell sticker (very 
appropriate) and the other is by the light switch towards  the door to the 
screen porch. Which, I was informed, Frank, Ron and Peter got kicked out of 
for being too loud.

Larry

On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:22 AM, David Lieb wrote:

> I noticed that one of them already graces a wall in Siebkins bar in
> Elkhart Lake. Very appropriate.
> David L
> _______________________________________________
>
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listen?

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macy at upenn.edu
Senior IT Program Director
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul 22 07:56:34 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <E10437B4-CFD1-4DEF-94E0-CD5DF7E1B2F6@gmail.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E10437B4-CFD1-4DEF-94E0-CD5DF7E1B2F6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1311342994.75907.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Yes. Thanks to all involved. It was a nice gesture and will continue as another 
nice remembrance of Frank.

 jay




________________________________
From: Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>

I need to thank Phil Nase.  The stickers were his idea.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa


On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:00 AM, David Booker wrote:
>
> Thank you Diane and
> Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at  
> all to do
> with them.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 07:59:33 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:59:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <E10437B4-CFD1-4DEF-94E0-CD5DF7E1B2F6@gmail.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E10437B4-CFD1-4DEF-94E0-CD5DF7E1B2F6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1311343173.26601.YahooMailNeo@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Phil - great idea.
 - David



I need to thank Phil Nase.  The stickers
were his idea. 

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jul 22 08:20:21 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:20:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
In-Reply-To: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <E1A8EDCAD39C46E19831A920C1239ABA@Home>

I didn't realize that people would put them anywhere other than on their 
Spridgets.  Maybe we should have thought about a big pin to wear on our 
shirts.

Tell everyone,
Michael Rowe 

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul 22 08:25:19 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:25:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
In-Reply-To: <E1A8EDCAD39C46E19831A920C1239ABA@Home>
References: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
	<E1A8EDCAD39C46E19831A920C1239ABA@Home>
Message-ID: <1311344719.2636.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Yes. It's happening nationwide. 

Curiously though, there are several reports that despite several attempts, the 
Frank stickers will not adhere to Triumphs.

 jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>


I didn't realize that people would put them anywhere other than on their 
Spridgets.  

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 08:42:52 2011
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:42:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
In-Reply-To: <1311344719.2636.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
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I put one in the window of a Harbor Freight store.

Anon

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> Yes. It's happening nationwide.
>
> Curiously though, there are several reports that despite several attempts,
the
> Frank stickers will not adhere to Triumphs.
>
>  jay fishbein
>
> wallingford, ct
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
>
>
> I didn't realize that people would put them anywhere other than on their
> Spridgets.
> _______________________________________________
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 10:18:27 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:18:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
In-Reply-To: <CAJX-WcXNEKCArnqtckYy=rE9pdjKPw6ieHKMCfwo4idKXGwtGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
	<E1A8EDCAD39C46E19831A920C1239ABA@Home>
	<1311344719.2636.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CAJX-WcXNEKCArnqtckYy=rE9pdjKPw6ieHKMCfwo4idKXGwtGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoJ7Ou8iQcP_z0yrDRqupLpVTkFoJPSXZ2hFX45FDdpwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone want to stick one up on the Chinese Embassy in Washington?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Greg Gowins <eric.t.cartman at gmail.com>wrote:

> I put one in the window of a Harbor Freight store.
>
> Anon
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> > Yes. It's happening nationwide.
> >
> > Curiously though, there are several reports that despite several
> attempts,
> the
> > Frank stickers will not adhere to Triumphs.
> >
> >  jay fishbein
> >
> > wallingford, ct
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
> >
> >
> > I didn't realize that people would put them anywhere other than on their
> > Spridgets.
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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From george.brokaw at cox.net  Fri Jul 22 10:42:31 2011
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:42:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuoJ7Ou8iQcP_z0yrDRqupLpVTkFoJPSXZ2hFX45FDdpwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
	<E1A8EDCAD39C46E19831A920C1239ABA@Home>
	<1311344719.2636.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CAJX-WcXNEKCArnqtckYy=rE9pdjKPw6ieHKMCfwo4idKXGwtGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnuoJ7Ou8iQcP_z0yrDRqupLpVTkFoJPSXZ2hFX45FDdpwQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Sorry, it won't stick to anything Chinese either...

;^)

Paul

-----Original Message-----

Anyone want to stick one up on the Chinese Embassy in Washington?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Greg Gowins
<eric.t.cartman at gmail.com>wrote:

> I put one in the window of a Harbor Freight store.
>
> Anon
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> > Yes. It's happening nationwide.
> >
> > Curiously though, there are several reports that despite several
> attempts,
> the
> > Frank stickers will not adhere to Triumphs.
> >
> >  jay fishbein
> >
> > wallingford, ct
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > I didn't realize that people would put them anywhere other than on their
> > Spridgets.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 10:51:25 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuoJ7Ou8iQcP_z0yrDRqupLpVTkFoJPSXZ2hFX45FDdpwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0026f9817eddfde0dd525ec942f16ebc.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
	<E1A8EDCAD39C46E19831A920C1239ABA@Home>
	<1311344719.2636.YahooMailRC@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CAJX-WcXNEKCArnqtckYy=rE9pdjKPw6ieHKMCfwo4idKXGwtGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnuoJ7Ou8iQcP_z0yrDRqupLpVTkFoJPSXZ2hFX45FDdpwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1311353485.30474.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Now Jim - If it won't stick to a Tiumph, do you actually think it would adhere
to that building? It would probably just burst into flames upon contact and
injure the poor Spridgeteer trying to do a good deed...
 
David Booker

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Fri Jul 22 10:58:21 2011
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (cshelden)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:58:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <72805a8e-1821-416f-88f0-f610bf41006a@blur>

I'm behind on mail. How do I buy a Frank Sticker? 

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----
From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 22, 2011 12:22:33 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!

I noticed that one of them already graces a wall in Siebkins bar in
Elkhart Lake. Very appropriate.
David L
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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 11:09:31 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:09:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <72805a8e-1821-416f-88f0-f610bf41006a@blur>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid>
	<72805a8e-1821-416f-88f0-f610bf41006a@blur>
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On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, cshelden wrote:

> I'm behind on mail. How do I buy a Frank Sticker?

Charlie,

I don't have any more.  The stickers were pre ordered weeks ago.  I  
have mailed out most that were pre-ordered and the balance (which I  
needed addresses for) will go out Monday.

Larry Macy had a few extras, but he may have given them away at the  
50th.

Larry??

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Fri Jul 22 11:12:58 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:12:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MC Push Rods
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16.1311098405.5211.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.16.1311098405.5211.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <C6C6F904-FAFB-4E3F-9809-752E62FCA080@gerardsgarage.com>

All the info regarding disc brake upgrade and differences between  
master cylinders is here:

http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/DbrakeUg.htm

Gerard

On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:05:01 -0500
> From: "Bert Shirey" <bertshirey at zoominternet.net>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] MC Push Rods
> Message-ID: <58A416897DFC4DF4BCF6B08A0B526EBC at yourw92p4bhlzg>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Guys and Gals,
>
>    The Master cylinder push rod mix-up business caused my buddy and  
> me a lot
> of grief when doing his MGA a while ago.
>
>      The 3/4" and 7/8" MCs do not use the same length rods. Rods for  
> the 3/4"
> is shorter than the 7/8" and they are not interchangeable And  
> because the MCs
> outwardly look the same, it`s easy to mix-up the rods. Also, since  
> the 7/8" MC
> used on the drum brake systems is still available new and will work  
> on the
> disc brake cars, supposedly correct replacement rods you order for  
> the 3/4"
> may be incorrect.
>
>       You can adjust the effective length of the rod but not enough.
>
>       Too long rods will overthrow the bores and at least make a  
> mess while
> preventing bleeding. More likely they will wreck the rebuild. Too  
> short, and
> the pistons will not travel enough to bleed.
>
>      In the case of the A, we sent the original 7/8" MC off for a  
> rebuild. We
> were unaware that a 3/4" was returned in error. The longer rods  
> ruined our day
> right up to the start of Happy Hour, when the whole screw up didn`t  
> seem so
> bad after all.
>
> Bert Shirey
> 66 Midget 1098/60 Bugeye

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 11:14:36 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:14:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <72805a8e-1821-416f-88f0-f610bf41006a@blur>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid>
	<72805a8e-1821-416f-88f0-f610bf41006a@blur>
Message-ID: <8FF4E1B2-7AA4-487E-8226-5DB55151EC14@gmail.com>

On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, cshelden wrote:

> I'm behind on mail. How do I buy a Frank Sticker?

Charlie,

I found one sticker.  I was going to put it on my conversion van, but  
I sold the van.

Shoot me your address and I'll mail it to you.

Kevin V.

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Fri Jul 22 11:14:53 2011
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:14:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Master brake cylinder pushrods
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16.1311098405.5211.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.16.1311098405.5211.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <69C1A1FB-C11C-4772-9EC0-2159818A68CC@gerardsgarage.com>

I can supply new cad plated pushrods.

Gerard

On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:24:59 -0400
> From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] 66 Sprite Master brake cylinder pushrods
> Message-ID:
> 	<a198183310a28b4f92bc48060f786f65.squirrel at virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
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>
> Thanks to those of you who replied and confirmed that there are two
> lengths of pushrods. I ordered the set currently in the Vic Brit  
> catalog,
> but they are backordered. Anyone know a different source?
> Thanks
> Dick Byrne in NH

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 22 11:18:25 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:18:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
Message-ID: <201107221018436.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Geeeezes that was fun.




Peter C

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Fri Jul 22 11:22:06 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:22:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
References: <201107221018436.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <0AD57B29B66D4F65A0706582132627F3@CGI.COMMTECH>

How about a write up for those of us that couldn't make it?

Mark


From: "Peter Caldwell" 

> Geeeezes that was fun.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 22 11:29:51 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:29:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
In-Reply-To: <0AD57B29B66D4F65A0706582132627F3@CGI.COMMTECH>
References: <201107221018436.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<0AD57B29B66D4F65A0706582132627F3@CGI.COMMTECH>
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I will. Hard to type right now....  something happened to my shoulder.....

Peter
--
At 12:22 PM 7/22/2011, Mark Endicott wrote:
>How about a write up for those of us that couldn't make it?
>
>Mark
>
>
>From: "Peter Caldwell"
>>Geeeezes that was fun.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Jul 22 11:55:25 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:55:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
In-Reply-To: <201107221018436.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201107221018436.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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That was a real blast- 

Thanks everyone.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:18 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th

Geeeezes that was fun.




Peter C

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 13:18:15 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:18:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
In-Reply-To: <201107221029736.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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	<0AD57B29B66D4F65A0706582132627F3@CGI.COMMTECH>
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I understand that beer is good for the shoulder.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> I will. Hard to type right now....  something happened to my shoulder.....
>
> Peter
> --
> At 12:22 PM 7/22/2011, Mark Endicott wrote:
>
>> How about a write up for those of us that couldn't make it?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> From: "Peter Caldwell"
>>
>>> Geeeezes that was fun.
>>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 13:21:09 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:21:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
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On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Allen Hefner wrote:

> I understand that beer is good for the shoulder.



Lifting the glass is how he got the bad shoulder ;)

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 22 13:22:12 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:22:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
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If that were true it wouldn't be hurting... at all... EVER!

Actually, we cleaned the town out of a few brands. ;-)


At 02:18 PM 7/22/2011, Allen Hefner wrote:
>I understand that beer is good for the shoulder.
>
>On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> > I will. Hard to type right now....  something happened to my shoulder.....
> >
> > Peter
> > --
> > At 12:22 PM 7/22/2011, Mark Endicott wrote:
> >
> >> How about a write up for those of us that couldn't make it?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Peter Caldwell"
> >>
> >>> Geeeezes that was fun.
> >>>
> >> ______________________________**_________________
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Jul 22 13:30:56 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:30:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd:  Spridgets... 50th
In-Reply-To: <1354472355.578633.1311363006405.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <501575731.578640.1311363056369.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

 Beer is good for your roses...
 Especially after you've drunk it !
 
 --
 Dave G  KK7SS
  Richland, WA
 
 '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
 '65 Sprite - in process :(
 '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
 '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
 
 ----- "Allen Hefner" <lbc77mg at gmail.com> wrote:
 
 > I understand that beer is good for the shoulder.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 22 14:48:09 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:48:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd:  Spridgets... 50th
In-Reply-To: <501575731.578640.1311363056369.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.d
	lls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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At 02:30 PM 7/22/2011, Dave KK7SS wrote:
>  Beer is good for your roses...
>  Especially after you've drunk it !
>
===================
I wonder how John Deikis is feeling on the ferry ride this 
morning...... hope the waves weren't too big.

Peter C 

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Jul 22 16:52:08 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:52:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
Message-ID: <574219172.581161.1311375128547.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

FWIW...

Stumbled across that picture (last year?) of the drivers' meeting at the 1964 Belgian Grand Prix.

The 10 drivers: Jo Bonnier, Innes Ireland, Phil Hill, Chris Amon, Jim Clark, Richie Gpriceunther, Graham Hill, Jack Brabham, Dan Gurney, and Bruce McLaren

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From clarici at verizon.net  Fri Jul 22 17:19:28 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:19:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
Message-ID: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>

We all got home no problems. Thanks for everything. We had a blast. 

Frankie and the rest of the Clarici's

Sent from my iPhone

From trish.finn at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 17:33:08 2011
From: trish.finn at gmail.com (Trish Finn)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:33:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Awesome!
Message-ID: <8367411718098297137@unknownmsgid>

I had an awesome time, it was so nice to see the familiar faces again.
I'm so glad I decided to stay the rest of the week. My only complaint
is that I didn't get there till Wednesday afternoon.

Thank you to everyone that pulled off such a great event.


Trish
1990 Mariner Blue Miata
1960 Yellow Bugeye Sprite

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 18:08:48 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:08:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 101* Rescue Mission
Message-ID: <855B1C93-8C66-47E5-8C1F-29EF623204C9@gmail.com>

All,

Just got back from a hot (it was 101 degrees here today) rescue  
mission.  A friends Midget stopped running about 18 miles from home.   
Bad mechanical fuel pump on his 1500.  My trusty spare electric fuel  
pump saved the day again ;)

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 18:28:51 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:28:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
References: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <-6506051544243462954@unknownmsgid>

Trish and I made it safely home, too.
We had a great time, been though she missed out on the best track tour
of Road America I have ever done.

Theoretically, there was a 70MPH speed limit and we were not supposed
to pass in the corners, but I understand that "the loud car" and #49
managed to get the pace Corvette to speed up a bit. It really was
great to be out there with a mess of Spridgets; by the end of the
first lap we had strung out along a lot of the track and almost
everyone got to drive at whatever clip felt comfortable with open
track in front of them. There were a couple of mechanicals, but it was
great fun!

The autocross got off to a slightly rocky start due to problems with
the timing lights. We cut our losses and resorted to stopwatches and
the show was on. Four runs for those who wanted them and good
spectating, too.
David L

From mdmyersct at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 19:24:20 2011
From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (Mike Myers)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:24:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 101* Rescue Mission
In-Reply-To: <855B1C93-8C66-47E5-8C1F-29EF623204C9@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5B9057E2-B91C-426E-9A6C-9DF7E9341E8C@gmail.com>

Way to go Kevin - pay it forward

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> Just got back from a hot (it was 101 degrees here today) rescue mission.  A
friends Midget stopped running about 18 miles from home.  Bad mechanical fuel
pump on his 1500.  My trusty spare electric fuel pump saved the day again ;)
>
> Kevin V.
> Tuscarora, Pa
> _______________________________________________
>
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From ggilomen at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 20:11:55 2011
From: ggilomen at gmail.com (Gordon Gilomen)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:11:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <-6506051544243462954@unknownmsgid>
References: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
	<-6506051544243462954@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <CAJwQjMzB+4gxFUw2qDAGiBQY8YeuF8ERU3SwpH3_zY_1gRKQCw@mail.gmail.com>

I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it dry
out.  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks to
all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:28 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
> Trish and I made it safely home, too.
> We had a great time, been though she missed out on the best track tour
> of Road America I have ever done.
>
> Theoretically, there was a 70MPH speed limit and we were not supposed
> to pass in the corners, but I understand that "the loud car" and #49
> managed to get the pace Corvette to speed up a bit. It really was
> great to be out there with a mess of Spridgets; by the end of the
> first lap we had strung out along a lot of the track and almost
> everyone got to drive at whatever clip felt comfortable with open
> track in front of them. There were a couple of mechanicals, but it was
> great fun!
>
> The autocross got off to a slightly rocky start due to problems with
> the timing lights. We cut our losses and resorted to stopwatches and
> the show was on. Four runs for those who wanted them and good
> spectating, too.
> David L
> _______________________________________________
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 22 20:24:02 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:24:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
In-Reply-To: <574219172.581161.1311375128547.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <574219172.581161.1311375128547.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
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Dave KK7SS wrote:  "The 10 drivers: Jo Bonnier, Innes Ireland, Phil Hill,
Chris Amon, Jim Clark, Richie Ginther, Graham Hill, Jack Brabham, Dan
Gurney, and Bruce McLaren"

Oh, the memories that come swirling back of that Golden Age of sports car
racing.  How many can remember the American enchantment with Jimmy Clark and
the "Jimmy Clark for President" "campaign"?  (I wonder when he changed from
being "Jimmy" to "Jim"?

Quick now.  How many of the 10 are still alive?  Who are they?  

Buster

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 22 20:38:15 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:38:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
In-Reply-To: <04ba01cc48df$96e2e1e0$c4a8a5a0$@net>
References: <574219172.581161.1311375128547.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<04ba01cc48df$96e2e1e0$c4a8a5a0$@net>
Message-ID: <254DAB1796BF4854A9755F0FFFCE13B5@spider>

Dan Gurney for President.

===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:24 PM
To: 'spridgets_autox.team.net'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..

Dave KK7SS wrote:  "The 10 drivers: Jo Bonnier, Innes Ireland, Phil Hill,
Chris Amon, Jim Clark, Richie Ginther, Graham Hill, Jack Brabham, Dan
Gurney, and Bruce McLaren"

Oh, the memories that come swirling back of that Golden Age of sports car
racing.  How many can remember the American enchantment with Jimmy Clark and
the "Jimmy Clark for President" "campaign"?  (I wonder when he changed from
being "Jimmy" to "Jim"?

Quick now.  How many of the 10 are still alive?  Who are they?  

Buster
_______________________________________________

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 22 20:52:58 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:52:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash--the missing man
In-Reply-To: <CAJwQjMzB+4gxFUw2qDAGiBQY8YeuF8ERU3SwpH3_zY_1gRKQCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
	<-6506051544243462954@unknownmsgid>
	<CAJwQjMzB+4gxFUw2qDAGiBQY8YeuF8ERU3SwpH3_zY_1gRKQCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04bb01cc48e3$a1d2e1f0$e578a5d0$@net>

Gordon Gilomen wrote:  "That was one great week, thanks to all that put in
your time to make it happen."

Sadly, the guy who probably put the most effort into not only the Sprite
50th, but the Midget 50th, as well, could not be with you.  I think everyone
who loves the Sprites and Midgets should pass on to him their gratitude for
all the work he has done for the events!

Buster

From mdmyersct at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 20:52:58 2011
From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (Mike Myers)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:52:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
In-Reply-To: <254DAB1796BF4854A9755F0FFFCE13B5@spider>
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	<254DAB1796BF4854A9755F0FFFCE13B5@spider>
Message-ID: <E6E7C259-8000-40AF-B12B-EBFB5A611B86@gmail.com>

This months Road & Track had an article with Dan giving his impressions of all
the drivers

Mike Myers


On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:38 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Dan Gurney for President.
>
> ===========================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:24 PM
> To: 'spridgets_autox.team.net'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
>
> Dave KK7SS wrote:  "The 10 drivers: Jo Bonnier, Innes Ireland, Phil Hill,
> Chris Amon, Jim Clark, Richie Ginther, Graham Hill, Jack Brabham, Dan
> Gurney, and Bruce McLaren"
>
> Oh, the memories that come swirling back of that Golden Age of sports car
> racing.  How many can remember the American enchantment with Jimmy Clark
and
> the "Jimmy Clark for President" "campaign"?  (I wonder when he changed from
> being "Jimmy" to "Jim"?
>
> Quick now.  How many of the 10 are still alive?  Who are they?
>
> Buster
> _______________________________________________
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Jul 22 21:07:59 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 03:07:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
In-Reply-To: <04ba01cc48df$96e2e1e0$c4a8a5a0$@net>
Message-ID: <1483271618.582831.1311390479424.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Jo Bonnier - killed racing at Le Mans, 1972
Innes Ireland - Died from Cancer, 1993
Phil Hill - Died from Parkinsons' Disease, 2008
Chris Amon - Still Farming in N.Z.
Jim Clark - Killed racing at Hockenheimring, 1968
Richie Ginther - Died from a Heart Attack while on Vacation, 1989
Graham Hill - Killed piloting a Piper Aztec, 1975
Jack Brabham - Farming in Australia (oldest living F1 Champion)
Dan Gurney - Campaigns in CART racing
Bruce McLaren - Killed racing at Goodwood, 1970

Stirling Moss - Still around (his words!)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Robert Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Quick now.  How many of the 10 are still alive?  Who are they?

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 21:10:46 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
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David and crew,
I had a great time, and got the nicest message from Mark
Haynes' daughter Katie that made everything worthwhile. Passing the passion
for our cars to the next generation is the most rewarding thing we can do. I
was tugged home before the banquet and, while it was necessary, it was very
very difficult to miss the finale. Out of habit, I almost stayed up til3
drinking and walking the streets after a few days with the crew at Elkhart.

I
did very very little, by far the least of any of the committee, and am
eternally grateful for what was done. You guys did an amazing job, and the
track, well, the track was just fantastic. The tour was a riot, and yes we
were smiling very wide in the racecars even at diminished speeds. It was great
to hear the bench racing afterwards. David and all the workers, great job
under really tough 100+ degree conditions for the autocross. White Trash and
his locked differential worked hard and appreciated the efforts.

Special,
special, special thanks to Diane and the Clarici family for making the trip. I
think the answer to the question WWFD lives on in your family and in what he
left with us all. 

Most of all, this doesn't happen without Jim Johnson. Jim,
I lift my beer to you.


I don't think we should wait 5 years for the next
one.


 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog
________________________________
From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
To:
Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 50th bash

Trish and I made it safely home, too.
We
had a great time, been though she missed out on the best track tour
of Road
America I have ever done.

Theoretically, there was a 70MPH speed limit and we
were not supposed
to pass in the corners, but I understand that "the loud car"
and #49
managed to get the pace Corvette to speed up a bit. It really was
great to be out there with a mess of Spridgets; by the end of the
first lap we
had strung out along a lot of the track and almost
everyone got to drive at
whatever clip felt comfortable with open
track in front of them. There were a
couple of mechanicals, but it was
great fun!

The autocross got off to a
slightly rocky start due to problems with
the timing lights. We cut our losses
and resorted to stopwatches and
the show was on. Four runs for those who
wanted them and good
spectating, too.
David L
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 21:12:16 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:12:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
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Gordon,

That's when that can of WD-40 comes in handy.

Cheers,

Curt

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
> *bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it dry
> out.*  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks to
> all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul 22 21:29:26 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:29:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
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I had the idea. It was a collaboration of  Frank's friends from Illinois to
New Jersey. And special thanks to Larry Clarici for printing them gratis.

Phil Nase
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:10 AM, "Pete Chast" <pchast at francomm.com> wrote:

> Thanks Phil
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:52:58 -0400, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>>
>> I need to thank Phil Nase.  The stickers were his idea.
>>
>> Kevin V.
>> Tuscarora, Pa
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:00 AM, David Booker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Diane and
>>> Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at
>>> all to do
>>> with them.
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From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul 22 21:33:53 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:33:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
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Great fun, great friends new and old and great cars. Super great job by the
organizers. Thank you for everything.  We had an absolute blast.

I think track day was the most fun I've ever had in my car.

Phil Nase
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Geeeezes that was fun.
>
>
>
>
> Peter C
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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 21:58:25 2011
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:58:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
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For those of us who saw Peter's first Drag Race, we know why his shoulder
hurts!!




> I will. Hard to type right now....  something happened to my shoulder.....
>
> Peter
> --

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 22 22:02:16 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:02:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
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That was huge fun!  A big thanks to all of you who worked so hard to put it
together and made it go so smoothly.  One of the best parts was getting to
meet the people I've known through this list for years and putting faces to
names.

The $500 Party Midget ran great all week and didn't give me a single problem.
Left Elkhart Lake around 11 this morning, rode the ferry across Lake Michigan,
and got home a few minutes before 11 PM.  Didn't win any awards at the car
show though - LOL.

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Geeeezes that was fun.
>
>
>
>
> Peter C

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Sat Jul 23 07:40:37 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:40:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] LINK TO MIDGET 50 UK PICS
Message-ID: <em586ecf67-36d5-41d1-a708-027c0faa2540@Win7-101110>

LINKS
Press CTRL and left click on link should work  - or just double click !

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1689214 at N25/pool/page2/


http://www.flickr.com/groups/1689214 at N25/pool/

enjoy the cool damp weather we expierenced !

alan Warwick UK

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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Sat Jul 23 07:40:37 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:40:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] LINK TO MIDGET 50 UK PICS
Message-ID: <em586ecf67-36d5-41d1-a708-027c0faa2540@Win7-101110>

LINKS
Press CTRL and left click on link should work  - or just double click !

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1689214 at N25/pool/page2/


http://www.flickr.com/groups/1689214 at N25/pool/

enjoy the cool damp weather we expierenced !

alan Warwick UK

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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 08:58:30 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 07:58:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Midget CO2 car race 2011 from yours truly : )
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVcug+uihW-PKh6bFMwKY8yFhwUJ1s+atsO+cs4-iTXaFA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Listers,
Yesterday was the last day of my CO2 Car Technology summer camp. I needed a
car to test the track and decided in honor of the MG Midget Anniversary
1961-2011 I (at the very last minute -night before the race) would make a
car looking like the Early MG Midget.

I hope you like the videos, I have better ones on other cameras and I may
post later, along with stills, but wanted to get this out early.
Lin

Start of Race description to parents and campers of the MG Midget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pedoj1EM4Vw

Race:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH_CVovoGJ8

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 11:21:06 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:21:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
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Lin,

WD = "Water Displacement" - formula number 40 which means they (the Rocket
and Chemical Company of San Diego) got it wrong 39 times.

http://www.wd40.com/about-us/history/

I used this on my Sprite in college (wet Indiana winters) and then when
stationed in Quantico, VA in the 1970s.  I remember driving during a slushy
freezing rain storm, and griving through a huge puddle which splashed slushy
water all over the engine (distributor and wires) and the car sputtered and
died.  .I simply sprayed the WD-40 on the distributor and wires and got it
started right away, and was off again in minutes.  Old British car trick.

Cheers,

Curt



On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Curt I thought WD-40 was silicone not a drying agent. Can you tell me where
> Gordon would spray it?
> Thanks, still learning,
>  Lin
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Gordon,
>>
>> That's when that can of WD-40 comes in handy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Curt
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
>> > *bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it dry
>> > out.*  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks to
>> > all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From ggilomen at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 11:30:38 2011
From: ggilomen at gmail.com (Gordon Gilomen)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:30:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeRHdq_VDvGb5XT-4QocXiGyE2wUuSGYxxZN5JdFMLeykQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Remember the spare parts I had laid out on the hood?  Well, when I
repacked them to leave I tossed the bag with the WD 40 all the way to
the back of the bugeye.  Not very smart.  Just found it this morning.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Gordon,
>
> That's when that can of WD-40 comes in handy.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
>> bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it dry
>> out.  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks to
>> all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Jul 23 11:46:23 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:46:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
Message-ID: <4E2B08EF.80804@wi.net>

Hi all,

We only live 2 hrs. from Elkhart Lake but am only getting around to let 
my "family" know we made it home.  Those of you that have reached your 
destination we are breathing easier.  We hope to hear from all of you as 
you make your way home.  Our Canadian family members are touring a bit 
and then heading home.  We enjoyed having you and hope to see you again!

It rained a bit on the way home and the Sprite never missed a beat.  I 
did have the top up(first time in 3years) and the sidescreens on for the 
1st time in ~6 years but water came in even with towels stuffed in the 
header rail.  Most came in under the windscreen wiper drive posts as the 
rubber seals have cracked from sun, age, and probably being made of 
"bootleg" rubber!  ;-)  I had water sloshing above the footwell carpet 
and thought it prudent to remove the seats, carpeting and panels.  So, 
as I sit here waiting for the carpets and body trim panels to dry as 
they hang in the garage, I have a few thoughts:

This event could not have happened without all of you, without Jim 
Johnson and the organizers of LotO, without the "Cheesehead" crew (Katie 
Haynes is now a Cheesehead!), and without our Frank and the entire 
Clarici family.  This Spridget Family is very special and very unique.  
I have not experienced anything like it in the Healey Club, Morgan Club, 
or any of the the others I've belonged to over the years,  years ago 
VSCDA came close.

I just want to thank you all for being you.  Everyone contributed, 
especially with the hiccups we encountered along the way.  I will never 
ever forget Wednesday night.  It was fun, sad, and moved me a great 
deal.  Diane, Frank IV, Tiffany (nice picture by the way...Larry took 
it!), Jennifer, Frankie V, we very much appreciate you coming and you 
will have to put up with Terri and I when we come back east on a trip or 
for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting.  Who else would put up with a bunch of people 
invading her home and having to feed them.  Diane, YOU are awesome.  We 
love you!

Ron is correct and I propose a meeting convene in 3 years time (it was 3 
years between LotO and EL).  Many had suggestions as to where.  I 
believe our strength and uniqueness comes from the unity of a 
nationwide/international gathering.  Regional get together are fine but 
it's really special seeing everyone from all points of the compass.  So 
start thinking.

As for Terri and I, we're going to relax a bit.

Take care all and we'll see you on the list!

Dave and Terri

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 11:48:35 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:48:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <CAJwQjMzCKJf9-oCs+Y9dfkVF2whh1LnaZTY1xXtS36G8UgoH7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
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	<CAJKrNeRHdq_VDvGb5XT-4QocXiGyE2wUuSGYxxZN5JdFMLeykQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Gordon,

 I know this all too well.  Lost in the belly of the beast.

Curt

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Remember the spare parts I had laid out on the hood?  Well, when I
> repacked them to leave I tossed the bag with the WD 40 all the way to
> the back of the bugeye.  Not very smart.  Just found it this morning.
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Gordon,
> >
> > That's when that can of WD-40 comes in handy.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
> >> bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it dry
> >> out.  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks to
> >> all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Jul 23 12:08:10 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:08:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4E2B08EF.80804@wi.net>
References: <4E2B08EF.80804@wi.net>
Message-ID: <4E2B0E0A.8000008@wi.net>

Oops forgot:  Stay tuned for info re: email addresses(voluntary) and 
DVD's.  Jim will place these links on the Club web site as they become 
available and he is able.

Dave W.



On 7/23/2011 12:46 PM, Woerpel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We only live 2 hrs. from Elkhart Lake but am only getting around to 
> let my "family" know we made it home.  Those of you that have reached 
> your destination we are breathing easier.  We hope to hear from all of 
> you as you make your way home.  Our Canadian family members are 
> touring a bit and then heading home.  We enjoyed having you and hope 
> to see you again!
>
> It rained a bit on the way home and the Sprite never missed a beat.  I 
> did have the top up(first time in 3years) and the sidescreens on for 
> the 1st time in ~6 years but water came in even with towels stuffed in 
> the header rail.  Most came in under the windscreen wiper drive posts 
> as the rubber seals have cracked from sun, age, and probably being 
> made of "bootleg" rubber!  ;-)  I had water sloshing above the 
> footwell carpet and thought it prudent to remove the seats, carpeting 
> and panels.  So, as I sit here waiting for the carpets and body trim 
> panels to dry as they hang in the garage, I have a few thoughts:
>
> This event could not have happened without all of you, without Jim 
> Johnson and the organizers of LotO, without the "Cheesehead" crew 
> (Katie Haynes is now a Cheesehead!), and without our Frank and the 
> entire Clarici family.  This Spridget Family is very special and very 
> unique.  I have not experienced anything like it in the Healey Club, 
> Morgan Club, or any of the the others I've belonged to over the 
> years,  years ago VSCDA came close.
>
> I just want to thank you all for being you.  Everyone contributed, 
> especially with the hiccups we encountered along the way.  I will 
> never ever forget Wednesday night.  It was fun, sad, and moved me a 
> great deal.  Diane, Frank IV, Tiffany (nice picture by the way...Larry 
> took it!), Jennifer, Frankie V, we very much appreciate you coming and 
> you will have to put up with Terri and I when we come back east on a 
> trip or for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting.  Who else would put up with a bunch 
> of people invading her home and having to feed them.  Diane, YOU are 
> awesome.  We love you!
>
> Ron is correct and I propose a meeting convene in 3 years time (it was 
> 3 years between LotO and EL).  Many had suggestions as to where.  I 
> believe our strength and uniqueness comes from the unity of a 
> nationwide/international gathering.  Regional get together are fine 
> but it's really special seeing everyone from all points of the 
> compass.  So start thinking.
>
> As for Terri and I, we're going to relax a bit.
>
> Take care all and we'll see you on the list!
>
> Dave and Terri
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Jul 23 12:11:32 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:11:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4E2B08EF.80804@wi.net>
References: <4E2B08EF.80804@wi.net>
Message-ID: <4E2B0ED4.1050000@wi.net>

Oops forgot:  Stay tuned for info re: email addresses(voluntary), 
pictures, and DVD's.  Jim will place these links on the Club web site as 
they become available and he is able.  Thanks to those posting pictures 
and giving us a link.
Phil, awesome sense of speed differential when Ron and John blew by 
wasn't it!  I saw them coming and figured they would "split" me just for 
kicks.  ;-)

Dave W.



On 7/23/2011 12:46 PM, Woerpel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We only live 2 hrs. from Elkhart Lake but am only getting around to 
> let my "family" know we made it home.  Those of you that have reached 
> your destination we are breathing easier.  We hope to hear from all of 
> you as you make your way home.  Our Canadian family members are 
> touring a bit and then heading home.  We enjoyed having you and hope 
> to see you again!
>
> It rained a bit on the way home and the Sprite never missed a beat.  I 
> did have the top up(first time in 3years) and the sidescreens on for 
> the 1st time in ~6 years but water came in even with towels stuffed in 
> the header rail.  Most came in under the windscreen wiper drive posts 
> as the rubber seals have cracked from sun, age, and probably being 
> made of "bootleg" rubber!  ;-)  I had water sloshing above the 
> footwell carpet and thought it prudent to remove the seats, carpeting 
> and panels.  So, as I sit here waiting for the carpets and body trim 
> panels to dry as they hang in the garage, I have a few thoughts:
>
> This event could not have happened without all of you, without Jim 
> Johnson and the organizers of LotO, without the "Cheesehead" crew 
> (Katie Haynes is now a Cheesehead!), and without our Frank and the 
> entire Clarici family.  This Spridget Family is very special and very 
> unique.  I have not experienced anything like it in the Healey Club, 
> Morgan Club, or any of the the others I've belonged to over the 
> years,  years ago VSCDA came close.
>
> I just want to thank you all for being you.  Everyone contributed, 
> especially with the hiccups we encountered along the way.  I will 
> never ever forget Wednesday night.  It was fun, sad, and moved me a 
> great deal.  Diane, Frank IV, Tiffany (nice picture by the way...Larry 
> took it!), Jennifer, Frankie V, we very much appreciate you coming and 
> you will have to put up with Terri and I when we come back east on a 
> trip or for an O.S.H.I.T. meeting.  Who else would put up with a bunch 
> of people invading her home and having to feed them.  Diane, YOU are 
> awesome.  We love you!
>
> Ron is correct and I propose a meeting convene in 3 years time (it was 
> 3 years between LotO and EL).  Many had suggestions as to where.  I 
> believe our strength and uniqueness comes from the unity of a 
> nationwide/international gathering.  Regional get together are fine 
> but it's really special seeing everyone from all points of the 
> compass.  So start thinking.
>
> As for Terri and I, we're going to relax a bit.
>
> Take care all and we'll see you on the list!
>
> Dave and Terri

From richard.hill at sri.com  Sat Jul 23 13:33:54 2011
From: richard.hill at sri.com (Rich Hill)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:33:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil vapor from cap/breather
Message-ID: <C8ECB38F-2619-4CF4-847A-C71900864315@sri.com>

Just starting our Sprite (948cc) after about a year of sitting unused - changed the oil, checked all the fluids....

We're getting a lot of oil smoke/vapor from the valve cover (cap removed) and enough down the breather to make the car run on when the ignition is turned off.  

Suggestions on ideas and things to check out would be appreciated!!

Rich Hill
1958 AH Sprite
1979 MG Midget

From lists at woozy.com  Sat Jul 23 14:00:05 2011
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:00:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <8FF4E1B2-7AA4-487E-8226-5DB55151EC14@gmail.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<8FF4E1B2-7AA4-487E-8226-5DB55151EC14@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E2B2845.2050309@woozy.com>

I'm behind on my mail too. If any more become available I'd like to get 
one for the Midget I bought from Frank a few years back.

Thanks,

Robert

On 7/22/2011 1:14 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, cshelden wrote:
>
>> I'm behind on mail. How do I buy a Frank Sticker?
>
> Charlie,
>
> I found one sticker.  I was going to put it on my conversion van, but 
> I sold the van.
>
> Shoot me your address and I'll mail it to you.
>
> Kevin V.
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From homehandy at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 23 14:20:39 2011
From: homehandy at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Kelly)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:20:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
References: <201107221018436.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <71511539D3B3402AA29834C776AA99EB@WOODSTOCK>

What a great week!!  We had a great time seeing everyone again and meeting 
lots that we have only 'seen on the list'.

Thanks to Dave W, David L., Peter C, and everyone else that jumped in to 
make the event run pretty smoothly. Special thanks to Jim J and Larry D ,who 
could not get there, thanks for all your work, really unfortunate life just 
would not cooperate. It was a great time for me and I believe everyone else 
had a great time. THANKS!!
I know I have left out names that should be here, but-- I don't know them 
all. Anyway, thanks to all that made this a great event!!!!

Mary and I took the Bimini Topped Bugeye on a Rally Route thru the North and 
South sections of the Kettle Moraine Scenic Highway on our way home. Some 
great roads for Spridgets.

As Peter said,  "Geeeezes that was fun."

Jeff and Mary Kelly



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:18 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th


> Geeeezes that was fun.

> Peter C
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From nases at verizon.net  Sat Jul 23 14:22:48 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Philip Nase)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:22:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] We're home
Message-ID: <0C7603B9-6D05-4122-942C-4C59B3864D2E@verizon.net>

Jane and I got home safely from Elkhart Lake.  1922 miles total.  Thanks again
to all the Presidents who made this happen.  It was wonderful.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 17:27:08 2011
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:27:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alan...will this fit in a Sprite"
Message-ID: <05f601cc4990$0af776d0$20e66470$@net>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8651725/Ricardo-opens-McLaren-engin
e-facility.html 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 17:48:07 2011
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:48:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alan...will this fit in a Sprite"
In-Reply-To: <05f601cc4990$0af776d0$20e66470$@net>
References: <05f601cc4990$0af776d0$20e66470$@net>
Message-ID: <CABQj3r965KqUf2b1DmvMW=KdrvAoMT0UT2Ys5oU9n_k7gwp5ww@mail.gmail.com>

I don't believe Alan is there any longer

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8651725/Ricardo-opens-McLaren-engin
> e-facility.html
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From mdmyersct at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 17:59:15 2011
From: mdmyersct at gmail.com (Michael Myers)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:59:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
In-Reply-To: <1483271618.582831.1311390479424.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <04ba01cc48df$96e2e1e0$c4a8a5a0$@net>
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/special-report/the-class-of-1960

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Jul 23 18:20:46 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:20:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - That picture of 10 GP drivers..
In-Reply-To: <CAL3QmYo37LdgLXRtME48-WmRT7SMO4YAU=CLJtYDTGERyQyPVg@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you :)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Michael Myers" <mdmyersct at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.roadandtrack.com/special-report/the-class-of-1960

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Jul 23 19:15:07 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:15:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets... 50th
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References: <201107221018436.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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I was expecting great things and the event/participants didn't let me down.
 The heat was a bit much, but at least there the rain did not interfere with
the events.

-Trevor

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Geeeezes that was fun.
>
>
>
>
> Peter C
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 23 19:17:25 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:17:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <4E2B2845.2050309@woozy.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com><-3073723982963920384@unknownmsgid><72805a8e-1821-416f-88f0-f610bf41006a@blur><8FF4E1B2-7AA4-487E-8226-5DB55151EC14@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <F0DFE67908FC41C7A4E7F39DD892FC08@HomePC>

Robert, I have more than I need.  Would you like a small (3" X 2" oval) or 
large (4" X 2.75")?

Send me your mailing address.

LAD



-----Original Message----- 
From: Robert Weeks
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:00 PM
To: spridget
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!

I'm behind on my mail too. If any more become available I'd like to get
one for the Midget I bought from Frank a few years back.

Thanks,

Robert

On 7/22/2011 1:14 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, cshelden wrote:
>
>> I'm behind on mail. How do I buy a Frank Sticker?
>
> Charlie,
>
> I found one sticker.  I was going to put it on my conversion van, but
> I sold the van.
>
> Shoot me your address and I'll mail it to you.
>
> Kevin V.
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From bkitterer at me.com  Sat Jul 23 19:51:55 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:51:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeS5U+EBQUT_Y_V834c4SRK+H4QbZJsoxtjEhnz4trb3EQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
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	<CAJwQjMzB+4gxFUw2qDAGiBQY8YeuF8ERU3SwpH3_zY_1gRKQCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJKrNeRHdq_VDvGb5XT-4QocXiGyE2wUuSGYxxZN5JdFMLeykQ@mail.gmail.com>
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To paraphrase Edison, they did not get it wrong 39 times, they found 39 ways that did not work.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Curt/Nancy Arndt wrote:

> Lin,
> 
> WD = "Water Displacement" - formula number 40 which means they (the Rocket
> and Chemical Company of San Diego) got it wrong 39 times.

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 24 09:08:59 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:08:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alan...will this fit in a Sprite"
In-Reply-To: <05f601cc4990$0af776d0$20e66470$@net>
Message-ID: <876296915.591247.1311520139341.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

"...just 4.7 inches between the crankshaft centre line and the road..."

About the height of my creeper!!!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Robert Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8651725/Ricardo-opens-McLaren-engine-facility.html

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 12:51:38 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:51:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] We're home
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Message-ID: <CAL0QtVcvEQcT-jb_qwXq4z7hXF7v+424BjDp+FWcPadA=G__Lg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for all the photos and glad your all home safe and sound : )
Lin

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Philip Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> Jane and I got home safely from Elkhart Lake.  1922 miles total.  Thanks
> again
> to all the Presidents who made this happen.  It was wonderful.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 12:54:43 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:54:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank decals
In-Reply-To: <1311353485.30474.YahooMailNeo@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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You guys are cracking me up!
I'm sure it slides off like Teflon on the Triumph Spitfire, as well as the
Chinese Embassy, hahaha.
Lin

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:51 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Now Jim - If it won't stick to a Tiumph, do you actually think it would
> adhere
> to that building? It would probably just burst into flames upon contact and
> injure the poor Spridgeteer trying to do a good deed...
>
> David Booker
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 12:56:03 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:56:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Awesome!
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With all the photos I felt like I went ...hahaha
Lin
Back to work on my Sprite ; )


On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Trish Finn <trish.finn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had an awesome time, it was so nice to see the familiar faces again.
> I'm so glad I decided to stay the rest of the week. My only complaint
> is that I didn't get there till Wednesday afternoon.
>
> Thank you to everyone that pulled off such a great event.
>
>
> Trish
> 1990 Mariner Blue Miata
> 1960 Yellow Bugeye Sprite
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 13:05:57 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:05:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
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Curt,
Do you mean you sprayed the inside of the distributor cap? Also the inside
connections of the wires? If so did you wipe off prior to assembly?
Just to add to my arsenal of knowledge and keep a can in the car.
Thanks,
Lin

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:

> Lin,
>
> WD = "Water Displacement" - formula number 40 which means they (the Rocket
> and Chemical Company of San Diego) got it wrong 39 times.
>
> http://www.wd40.com/about-us/history/
>
> I used this on my Sprite in college (wet Indiana winters) and then when
> stationed in Quantico, VA in the 1970s.  I remember driving during a slushy
> freezing rain storm, and griving through a huge puddle which splashed slushy
> water all over the engine (distributor and wires) and the car sputtered and
> died.  .I simply sprayed the WD-40 on the distributor and wires and got it
> started right away, and was off again in minutes.  Old British car trick.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Curt I thought WD-40 was silicone not a drying agent. Can you tell me
>> where Gordon would spray it?
>> Thanks, still learning,
>>  Lin
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Gordon,
>>>
>>> That's when that can of WD-40 comes in handy.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Curt
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
>>> > *bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it dry
>>> > out.*  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks to
>>> > all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 13:10:47 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:10:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Track tour video at Midget 50th and Autocross Videos
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvQxMwcA1YHYiKW2D=jr-CC7NbJoQOn0AM0BCADvO62UrA@mail.gmail.com>

Watch closely, you might see some familiar cars/faces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXFS0Yb0Voo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyJm-WMZgiM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mTyZ-pOU4o

-Cheers,
Trevor

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 24 13:31:22 2011
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:31:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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Thanks to all who helped make this past week in Elkhart Lake such a 
success! We had a fabulous time!

Despite the heat, this was way cool! It was good to see some familiar 
faces again and even better to meet new friends who share a love for 
these little cars.

Here is the link to the pictures I took, with the videos at the end.

<https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=leebfox&target=ALBUM&id=5632684669850009825&authkey=Gv1sRgCL_yq_Lo05W8owE&feat=email>

or

http://tinyurl.com/midget50

The autocross was great and the ride at Road America was fantastic!
I finding myself driving much more aggressively now. :)
I just found this link and now I want to go back and try it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2RxENxTZ6M

Thanks again for a wonderful time.

Lee Fox and Gail Johns
'79 Yellow Midget

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 24 14:08:03 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:08:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Track tour video at Midget 50th and Autocross Videos
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Nice vids, Trevor.  It looks like you have a strong motor.

David, will we be hearing the autocross times and results?




-----Original Message----- 
From: Trevor Jessie
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:10 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Track tour video at Midget 50th and Autocross Videos

Watch closely, you might see some familiar cars/faces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXFS0Yb0Voo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyJm-WMZgiM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mTyZ-pOU4o

-Cheers,
Trevor
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Sun Jul 24 14:57:21 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:57:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
Message-ID: <1311541041.2692.YahooMailClassic@web180616.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am intensely jealous of all who could attend this meet.  From the pictures
and movies, I really missed something.  The sad irony is I set my vacation for
this year for the Sturgis run and I will not be able to attend anyway.  I have
to stay home and babysit my body and fender man working on my BN2.  He is
trying to drag the end of the job on so he can squeeze just a little more cash
out of me.  I will be visiting his shop EVERY day for three weeks to check on
the progress so he will have no excuses for exhorting more money out of me. 
Besides, I hstill have to pull the motor and trans out of my Bugeye because of
a huge oil overpressure and bad synchro rings in the Datsun 210 trans. 
Something else to fill up my 3 weeks off. Some vacation huh?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 14:59:21 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:59:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Track tour video at Midget 50th and Autocross Videos
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> David, will we be hearing the autocross times and results?

I will email the excel file to whoever will post it. Give me an
address to send it to.
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 15:16:08 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:16:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
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Yup.  That's exactly how I woulda done it....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Lee Fox <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=a2RxENxTZ6M<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2RxENxTZ6M>
>
> Thanks again for a wonderful time.
>
> Lee Fox and Gail Johns
> '79 Yellow Midget

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 24 15:28:26 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:28:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
Message-ID: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>

I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin (called
a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
out? (1979 MG Midget.)   .bill in corvallis 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 16:08:26 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:08:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
In-Reply-To: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>
References: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>
Message-ID: <-459032794836263311@unknownmsgid>

> I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
> pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin (called
> a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
> out? (1979 MG Midget.)

Yes!
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 16:14:54 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:14:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
In-Reply-To: <-459032794836263311@unknownmsgid>
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Ah!  A veritable fount of useful information from Mr. Lieb!!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 5:08 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
> > pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin
> (called
> > a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
> > out? (1979 MG Midget.)
>
> Yes!
> David L

From a61bugeye at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 16:31:46 2011
From: a61bugeye at yahoo.com (Bug Eye)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:31:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
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	<-459032794836263311@unknownmsgid>
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Yes
Bill W

From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
To:
"<corvallis at peoplepc.com>" <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Cc:
"<spridgets at autox.team.net>" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 24,
2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal

> I'm rebuilding
the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
> pin in Bentley's)
is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin (called
> a king pin pin in
the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
> out? (1979 MG
Midget.)

Yes!
David L
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From lmacy at mac.com  Sun Jul 24 04:37:26 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:37:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
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I still have quite a few. Diane also left me her extras before they left.

Send me off list addy's and I'll get them out to you.

Larry

On Jul 23, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> Robert, I have more than I need.  Would you like a small (3" X 2" oval) or
> large (4" X 2.75")?
>
> Send me your mailing address.
>
> LAD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Weeks
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:00 PM
> To: spridget
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
>
> I'm behind on my mail too. If any more become available I'd like to get
> one for the Midget I bought from Frank a few years back.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> On 7/22/2011 1:14 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, cshelden wrote:
>>
>>> I'm behind on mail. How do I buy a Frank Sticker?
>>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> I found one sticker.  I was going to put it on my conversion van, but
>> I sold the van.
>>
>> Shoot me your address and I'll mail it to you.
>>
>> Kevin V.
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you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 17:00:03 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:00:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupUBc9cTpDnnMAZVmt1iZkZpL0GQHWRDBKjC7gp_3yMhQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> Ah!  A veritable fount of useful information from Mr. Lieb!!   ;-)

But at least I answered his question. Had he asked for the best way to
remove it, I woulda bin sunk, cuz I just keep finding one bad answer
after another.
David L

From peter at nosimport.com  Sun Jul 24 17:02:41 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:02:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
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Depends on what you want to save. If you like your king pin, cut the 
fulcrum pin. If the fulcrum is good (doubtful) cut it anyway, and 
save the a-arm. If the kingpin AND fulcrum are good, put it back on.
         Peter C
=-----

At 04:28 PM 7/24/2011, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
>pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin (called
>a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
>out? (1979 MG Midget.)   .bill in corvallis
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 24 17:03:44 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:03:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
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Not if you have the special wrench .... it's the blue one!  Heat is your
friend.

Rick


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From: corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 5:28 PM

I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin (called
a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
out? (1979 MG Midget.)   .bill in corvallis
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 24 17:34:18 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:34:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
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My extras are spoken for.  I got mine through the generosity of Mr. Macy. 
Please go to him for further requests.  And thanks, Larry, they were 
appreciated.

Even though I was only able to spend a few hours with you guys on Wednesday 
afternoon/evening, it was great to meet some of the names I've seen so many 
times over the years.  Hopefully, we can do this again at Elkhart Lake 
sometime.  It sure seems like a lot of people liked the venue.  I'm glad 
that the work of ALL of the guys on the 50th committee was appreciated.  It 
sure seems to have been worthwhile.

The other Larry




-----Original Message----- 
From: Macy Larry
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:37 AM
To: spridget
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!

I still have quite a few. Diane also left me her extras before they left.

Send me off list addy's and I'll get them out to you.

Larry

On Jul 23, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> Robert, I have more than I need.  Would you like a small (3" X 2" oval) or
> large (4" X 2.75")?
>
> Send me your mailing address.
>
> LAD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Weeks
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:00 PM
> To: spridget
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
>
> I'm behind on my mail too. If any more become available I'd like to get
> one for the Midget I bought from Frank a few years back.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> On 7/22/2011 1:14 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, cshelden wrote:
>>
>>> I'm behind on mail. How do I buy a Frank Sticker?
>>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> I found one sticker.  I was going to put it on my conversion van, but
>> I sold the van.
>>
>> Shoot me your address and I'll mail it to you.
>>
>> Kevin V.
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>>
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 18:47:07 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:47:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
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Lin,

No, just sprayed all over the outside of distributor and wires.  This is not
rocket science even though the parent company is the Rocket and Chemical
Corporation of San Diego ;-)

Cheers,

Curt

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Curt,
> Do you mean you sprayed the inside of the distributor cap? Also the inside
> connections of the wires? If so did you wipe off prior to assembly?
> Just to add to my arsenal of knowledge and keep a can in the car.
> Thanks,
> Lin
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Lin,
>>
>> WD = "Water Displacement" - formula number 40 which means they (the Rocket
>> and Chemical Company of San Diego) got it wrong 39 times.
>>
>> http://www.wd40.com/about-us/history/
>>
>> I used this on my Sprite in college (wet Indiana winters) and then when
>> stationed in Quantico, VA in the 1970s.  I remember driving during a slushy
>> freezing rain storm, and griving through a huge puddle which splashed slushy
>> water all over the engine (distributor and wires) and the car sputtered and
>> died.  .I simply sprayed the WD-40 on the distributor and wires and got it
>> started right away, and was off again in minutes.  Old British car trick.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Curt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Curt I thought WD-40 was silicone not a drying agent. Can you tell me
>>> where Gordon would spray it?
>>> Thanks, still learning,
>>>  Lin
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gordon,
>>>>
>>>> That's when that can of WD-40 comes in handy.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Curt
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
>>>> > *bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it
>>>> dry
>>>> > out.*  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks to
>>>> > all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 19:08:34 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:08:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
In-Reply-To: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>
References: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0zFdP0dtXDDn=-FCpH3Lit8XB++q4DjFm3pO3t3r92yqw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 5:28 PM,  <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called
swivel pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered
pin (called a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had
trouble getting that out? (1979 MG Midget.)   .bill in corvallis
 _______________________________________________

I'm not certain if you are referring to the cotter pin or the fulcrum
pin that you are having trouble with. The cotter pin must be removed.
It is a tapered pin with a nut on the bottom. Dig all the scrunge off
the bottom of the king pin assembly to find the nut. Remove it. Tap
the pin out. Use a hand impact tool with the large flat blade
screwdriver bit on the fulcrum pin. There is a slot in it. Make sure
that the hand impact is set to turn the correct way to undo the pin.
Hold the impact tool correctly with some tension on it and whack it
sharply. I have had very good luck with this method.

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 24 19:25:08 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:25:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0zFdP0dtXDDn=-FCpH3Lit8XB++q4DjFm3pO3t3r92yqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>
	<CA+Xq+0zFdP0dtXDDn=-FCpH3Lit8XB++q4DjFm3pO3t3r92yqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C030BB64FB84F88A896FE812D47CCC3@spider>

The Brits call it a cotter pin, but it is a tapered pin with a nut on the
other end; like holds a bicycle pedal arm onto the pedal crank, on some
older bicycles. Thank you for your input.
=====================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: CosmicMag1380 [mailto:cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:09 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 5:28 PM,  <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called
swivel pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered
pin (called a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had
trouble getting that out? (1979 MG Midget.)   .bill in corvallis
 _______________________________________________

I'm not certain if you are referring to the cotter pin or the fulcrum
pin that you are having trouble with. The cotter pin must be removed.
It is a tapered pin with a nut on the bottom. Dig all the scrunge off
the bottom of the king pin assembly to find the nut. Remove it. Tap
the pin out. Use a hand impact tool with the large flat blade
screwdriver bit on the fulcrum pin. There is a slot in it. Make sure
that the hand impact is set to turn the correct way to undo the pin.
Hold the impact tool correctly with some tension on it and whack it
sharply. I have had very good luck with this method.

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jul 24 19:29:30 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:29:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuq9Dfs3zivwWbzUmx0rSDhTAo3=7A80oQ6RWXxyydCwDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.13.1311530409.2812.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E2C730A.8090007@sbcglobal.net>
	<CAJgjnuq9Dfs3zivwWbzUmx0rSDhTAo3=7A80oQ6RWXxyydCwDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6452868617792227547@unknownmsgid>

And, while we are thinking about it, don't forget to send some of your
favorite pictures, along with a few words, to
spridget.calendar at gmail.com for the 2012 calendar. Some pictures from
your trip there as well as things you enjoyed there.

For that matter, any and all Spridget pictures are welcome. I will
admit to a certain bias against concours Spridgets, but I use them,
too. Projects and hopeless cases are especially desirable.

A bunch of you just benefitted from the funds raised by this calendar
in the form of the Midget 50th. Not sure yet what future funds will
subsidize, but it will be Spridget-related, too. No, I do not get paid
in any way shape or form.
David L

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 24 19:40:57 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:40:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cotter pin, here ...and there
Message-ID: <680F56F59735480B96172F00DCC135FE@spider>

>From   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotter_pin

Cotter pin can mean:

*                    In USA usage: 

o                               A split pin
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_pin> , a metal fastener with two tines
that are bent during installation used to fasten metal together, like with a
staple or rivet 

o                               Hairpin cotter pin
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairpin_cotter_pin> , more commonly known as
an "R-clip" 

o                               Bowtie
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowtie_cotter_pin>  cotter pin, a
vibration-proof type of R-clip that is shaped like a bowtie 

o                               Circle
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_cotter>  cotter, a ring-shaped cotter
pin 

*                    In British usage: 

o                               A cotter
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotter> , in mechanical engineering a pin or
wedge passing through a hole to fix parts tightly together 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 24 20:29:43 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:29:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cotter pin, here ...and there
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0wVKQ0W4=9WvKmRxDfrPwcwMwMCCJMPx+tLCwtjk=GzWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <680F56F59735480B96172F00DCC135FE@spider>
	<CA+Xq+0wVKQ0W4=9WvKmRxDfrPwcwMwMCCJMPx+tLCwtjk=GzWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EA032488BF6E435DAE26A0BE8C3CBD2D@spider>

No, not yet. I am pacing myself on this. I'd prefer not to just hack
everything up. I will keep all posted on things. ...bill in corvallis
==================================
-----Original Message-----
From: CosmicMag1380 [mailto:cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 7:26 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cotter pin, here ...and there

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:40 PM,  <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>From   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotter_pin

Cotter pin can mean:
-----------------------------------
So, now that you know exactly what it is, did you get it out?

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Sun Jul 24 22:45:01 2011
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:45:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Relief Gallery
Message-ID: <1311569101.63897.YahooMailClassic@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have a serious oil overpressure problem with the 1275 in my Bugeye.  An
adjustable oil relief valve from APT did not help, even when adjusted all the
way out.  David Anton suspects the oil gallery relief hole is plugged or was
inadvertantly sealed by mistake along with the othe other galleries that are
supposed to be sealed when the short block was rebuilt a few years ago.  I
will be pulling this engine in the next few weeks to try to determine just
exactly where the overpressure is coming from.  Does anyone know exactly where
I should look to determine which hole is the relief gallery hole in the area
of the oil pan under the engine?

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul 25 05:56:16 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:56:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gunner's Newsletter
Message-ID: <5EF1F72EB3334E5BACCE4052112DEE51@HomePC>

      "Gunner's Garage with John Gunnell" - 1 new article

        1.. MG MIDGET IS 50 YEARS OLD
        2.. More Recent Articles
        3.. Search Gunner's Garage with John Gunnell
        4.. Prior Mailing Archive
      MG MIDGET IS 50 YEARS OLD
      The owner's manual for my MGTF calls it a " Midget," but to most people
the MG Midget first came out in 1961, which makes it 50 years old. That's
"young" for a car and the "Spridget" club I spoke to last Monday evening
reflects this. That term is a combination of Sprite and Midget, since the '61
Midget was a badge-engineered Austin-Healey Sprite. Both of these cars are
relatively inexpensive, which gives them special appeal to younger hobbyists.
Too bad we don't have more vintage cars that are cheap to buy and inexpensive
to operate, such as a Spridget. As I drive around I meet many young people who
never heard of an MG. So it's nice to know that those in the Spridget club
"get it." these are the perfect cars for entry level hobbyists and this no
dues/no meetings club is perfect for them.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jul 25 06:59:59 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Delorean for Sale
Message-ID: <8BB62D24EE1B4878B64AAAD9A75A8A1F@Home>

There is a 1981  Delorean Gullwing for sale for $20,000 where I used to work.  If anyone in interested, I can check it out.

Michael Rowe
Long Island, NY

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Jul 25 07:14:14 2011
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:14:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Pac Northwest BAT Bugeye 4 Sale
Message-ID: <557b7.223da79f.3b5ec626@aol.com>

_http://bringatrailer.com/2011/07/25/desert-fossil-1960-austin-healey-bugeye
-sprite/_ 
(http://bringatrailer.com/2011/07/25/desert-fossil-1960-austin-healey-bugeye-sprite/) 

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Jul 25 07:51:08 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:51:08 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] DVD of Midget 50th
Message-ID: <52142.173.111.222.52.1311601868.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Here is the info if you are interested in purchasing a DVD of the event. 
If you were there, it was playing before the banquet.  If you were not
there, you can see what you missed.

DVD available for $18.00

Send check to:
John Seaman
456 Bluebird Lane
Sheboygan Falls, WI 53085

He also uses Pay Pal.  Contact John at:
jcman22 at charter.net
920-467-2076

He said it will be about 3 weeks before delivery.

Dave

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jul 25 08:17:43 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:17:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] DVD of Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <52142.173.111.222.52.1311601868.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <20110725141743.6LRYZ.34272.root@hrndva-web12-z02>

just to add on to that, the quality of the video will be a much higher resolution and will be clearer than what we were watching at the banquet.

Chris  
---- dwoerpel at wi.net wrote: 
> Here is the info if you are interested in purchasing a DVD of the event. 
> If you were there, it was playing before the banquet.  If you were not
> there, you can see what you missed.
> 
> DVD available for $18.00
> 
> Send check to:
> John Seaman
> 456 Bluebird Lane
> Sheboygan Falls, WI 53085
> 
> He also uses Pay Pal.  Contact John at:
> jcman22 at charter.net
> 920-467-2076
> 
> He said it will be about 3 weeks before delivery.
> 
> Dave

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jul 25 09:44:10 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:44:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] If you liked the 50th at Road America...
Message-ID: <201107250844377.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

... then you might enjoy the Vintage Fall Festival at Road America.

Lots of Spridgets, including you-know-who #25 white

Track touring also, but I can guarantee, not as fast..... but MUCH 
cooler  (temp wise, I hope)

http://www.vscda.org/races/elkhartLake.php

September 9 weekend.

Great to see you all.

Peter C

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 25 10:16:59 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:16:59 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
Message-ID: <20110725.101659.14894.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

We made it home around 5 pm on Saturday, Boy is it nice to be back on my
mountain top-72*F! I still had to sleep with the windows wide open though!
thanks to everyone who did such an amazing job with the planning. It was great
to get back on the track again. I'm sorry that Jim Johnson and Gerard
Chateauvieux were unable to make it after doing so much work on the planning
and all.
Katie wore the 'Cheese Head' almost all of the way home (except when it got
really hot!) and Tamara is still bouncing off of the walls after getting
second in the autox. For those who weren't in the know, I hadn't let her drive
the Bugeye until the way back to Victorian Village the day before the
autocross, so the first run of autocross for her was only the third time that
she'd been behind the wheel of it.
Thanks to everyone for being so inclusive with my daughters, they had a great
time and are both asking for their OWN SPRITES!


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016

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From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 10:55:55 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:55:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
Message-ID: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>

Hi everybody!

Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I  
look forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't  
know, I have a 1971 MG Midget (named Guenevire) that I have known  
since 1987ish (I was 6).  That car and I have been through a lot, and  
I would hate to ever let it go.  I am in the process of exploring  
carreer options and trying to find or create work and in a way the  
Midget 50 was one last hurrah before mothballing the car until my  
situation improves.  I will still hang out on the forums and on this  
list, and update my website.  I look forward to getting to know those  
of you I haven't met yet.  Hearing the memorials at the Midget 50 made  
me wish I had known both of them.

-seth jones

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul 25 11:46:08 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:46:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>

Welcome.
Be aware that there can be some caustic comments thrown about here.
We're really just a bunch of teddy bears though.

===============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Seth Jones
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:56 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list

Hi everybody!

Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I  
look forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't  
know, I have a 1971 MG Midget (named Guinevere) that I have known  
since 1987ish (I was 6).  That car and I have been through a lot, and  
I would hate to ever let it go.  I am in the process of exploring  
career options and trying to find or create work and in a way the  
Midget 50 was one last hurrah before mothballing the car until my  
situation improves.  I will still hang out on the forums and on this  
list, and update my website.  I look forward to getting to know those  
of you I haven't met yet.  Hearing the memorials at the Midget 50 made  
me wish I had known both of them.

-seth jones
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Jul 25 11:58:47 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:58:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
Message-ID: <1311616727.41668.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Seth,

Welcome to the list. 

When the topic is Sprites or Midgets, this list is one of the most valuable 
resources for information on Spridgets.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
1963 Sprite Mk II
1961 Innocenti 950 Spider





-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net


Hi everybody!

Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I  
look forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't  
know, I have a 1971 MG Midget

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jul 25 12:11:46 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:11:46 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Seth's Midget
Message-ID: <20110725.121146.3687.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

Hey Seth,
Here and all weekend we thought the name of your midget was 'MIDGE"!!


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016

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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jul 25 12:22:53 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:22:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Seth's Midget
In-Reply-To: <20110725.121146.3687.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110725.121146.3687.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <201107251122665.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Seth.... wanna buy a T?
         Peter C
==
At 01:11 PM 7/25/2011, Mark Haynes wrote:
>Hey Seth,
>Here and all weekend we thought the name of your midget was 'MIDGE"!!
>
>
>Mark Haynes
>It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
>HAN6L12977
>HAN5L8016

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 12:28:45 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:28:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Seth's Midget
Message-ID: <mailman.14.1311618543.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I thought you can only buy vowels!!!

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Peter Caldwell
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Mark Haynes
To: sethamosjones at gmail.com
Cc: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seth's Midget
Sent: Jul 25, 2011 2:22 PM

Seth.... wanna buy a T?
         Peter C
==
At 01:11 PM 7/25/2011, Mark Haynes wrote:
>Hey Seth,
>Here and all weekend we thought the name of your midget was 'MIDGE"!!
>
>
>Mark Haynes
>It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
>HAN6L12977
>HAN5L8016
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Sent from me.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jul 25 12:33:45 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:33:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
Message-ID: <864BB2BE742B480F914BD035D16B9BAE@Home>

> We're really just a bunch of teddy bears though.

Well, most of us.

Anon.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jul 25 13:02:15 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:02:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <1311616727.41668.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
	<1311616727.41668.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <534A08A9-14BA-4EB3-9123-A101BFE319FF@comcast.net>

Heh. but the topic NEVER stays on Sprites or Midgets..  What are your thoughts
on using cats as wheel chocks?

Lester


On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Jay wrote:

> Seth,
>
> Welcome to the list.
>
> When the topic is Sprites or Midgets, this list is one of the most valuable
> resources for information on Spridgets.
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> 1963 Sprite Mk II
> 1961 Innocenti 950 Spider
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I
> look forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't
> know, I have a 1971 MG Midget
> _______________________________________________
>
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 13:06:06 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:06:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <534A08A9-14BA-4EB3-9123-A101BFE319FF@comcast.net>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
	<1311616727.41668.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<534A08A9-14BA-4EB3-9123-A101BFE319FF@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hxa2KLZp8hkXN0TXKiatw--9YQqvcHmRf7=x211U-FeKw@mail.gmail.com>

> Heh. but the topic NEVER stays on Sprites or Midgets..  What are your
thoughts
> on using cats as wheel chocks?

You left out guns, beer, Frank Zappa, and X!
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 13:14:09 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:14:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hxa2KLZp8hkXN0TXKiatw--9YQqvcHmRf7=x211U-FeKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
	<1311616727.41668.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<534A08A9-14BA-4EB3-9123-A101BFE319FF@comcast.net>
	<CACJx3hxa2KLZp8hkXN0TXKiatw--9YQqvcHmRf7=x211U-FeKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurAfoEseqnZtLvPR9zQ+uwjorrRv1a-fiG58nfSN-s4eg@mail.gmail.com>

While listening to Zappa and X and drinking way too much beer, shoot the
damned cat, freeze it and use it as a wheel chock when you sober up.

Simple.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:06 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Heh. but the topic NEVER stays on Sprites or Midgets..  What are your
> thoughts
> > on using cats as wheel chocks?
>
> You left out guns, beer, Frank Zappa, and X!
> David L
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Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 13:15:51 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnurAfoEseqnZtLvPR9zQ+uwjorrRv1a-fiG58nfSN-s4eg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
	<1311616727.41668.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<534A08A9-14BA-4EB3-9123-A101BFE319FF@comcast.net>
	<CACJx3hxa2KLZp8hkXN0TXKiatw--9YQqvcHmRf7=x211U-FeKw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnurAfoEseqnZtLvPR9zQ+uwjorrRv1a-fiG58nfSN-s4eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hz3BP54vvMw70B_4amZDRnyt9KXfeJiZhPBAGoXo9HNxQ@mail.gmail.com>

> While listening to Zappa and X and drinking way too much beer, shoot the
> damned cat, freeze it and use it as a wheel chock when you sober up.

I hear that Westies have more staying power than cats...
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 13:20:02 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hz3BP54vvMw70B_4amZDRnyt9KXfeJiZhPBAGoXo9HNxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
	<1311616727.41668.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<534A08A9-14BA-4EB3-9123-A101BFE319FF@comcast.net>
	<CACJx3hxa2KLZp8hkXN0TXKiatw--9YQqvcHmRf7=x211U-FeKw@mail.gmail.com>
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You don't have enough guns or ammo to bring down a determined Westie.....
;-)

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:15 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > While listening to Zappa and X and drinking way too much beer, shoot the
> > damned cat, freeze it and use it as a wheel chock when you sober up.
>
> I hear that Westies have more staying power than cats...
> David L
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jul 25 13:46:36 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:46:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a 1500 stat housing
Message-ID: <201107251246865.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

.. for a local shop.  Used.

1500 has no extra fittings or tubes. Just 2 bolt thermostat cover and 
upper hose outlet.

Reply privately, please.

Tx   Peter C.

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 15:00:09 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:00:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5Ou5RTs1-7sh=ypjLOoKWR4yXTQSKeSPgeRz_oMfrpCifQ@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome aboard, Seth.  It is a good natured group here.  Mostly.  Don't miss
linking to the many web sites our members have. There is a load of great
info available.

Where are you located?  We have OSHIT helpers everywhere!

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Seth Jones <sethamosjones at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi everybody!
>
> Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I look
> forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't know, I have
> a 1971 MG Midget (named Guenevire) that I have known since 1987ish (I was
> 6).  That car and I have been through a lot, and I would hate to ever let it
> go.  I am in the process of exploring carreer options and trying to find or
> create work and in a way the Midget 50 was one last hurrah before
> mothballing the car until my situation improves.  I will still hang out on
> the forums and on this list, and update my website.  I look forward to
> getting to know those of you I haven't met yet.  Hearing the memorials at
> the Midget 50 made me wish I had known both of them.
>
> -seth jones
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 15:23:42 2011
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1311629022.60944.YahooMailNeo@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Welcome Seth,
Mine's also a '71. No name other than maybe the ones we for
the most part frown upon using here. Old EnglishWhite (it's actually '63 Ford
Falcon white, but that's another story). It is one of many here on the list
brought back to life by Frank. My particular example maybe three years
ago. Enjoy yourself, pitch in where you can, and don't hesitate to ask for
advice, help, or opinions. Well, maybe not so much opinions, cuz nobody here
has any of those...
 
And what part of the world are you hailing from?
 
David
Booker
Long Island

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jul 25 15:49:45 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:49:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
Message-ID: <201107251449426.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

1. Check steering column lower pinch bolt. If you have ANY in-out 
play on your steering column, this bolt is worn. Replace it with a 
hardened bolt.   Having the column come out during an autox is 
somewhat..... inconvenient.

2. Is the wire to your alternator tight? Having it burn a hole in 
your oil filter on a race track can be embarrassing.

     <others?>

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 16:14:17 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:14:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
In-Reply-To: <201107251449426.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201107251449426.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvQ-gt15NQzK0Lb5M=+3XxXVjLvXtbbGVqYODK=9O+o22g@mail.gmail.com>

Put your cell phone number on a tag on your key change.  Starting your car
by twisting wires under the dash draws strange looks from others.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> 1. Check steering column lower pinch bolt. If you have ANY in-out play on
> your steering column, this bolt is worn. Replace it with a hardened bolt.
> Having the column come out during an autox is somewhat..... inconvenient.
>
> 2. Is the wire to your alternator tight? Having it burn a hole in your oil
> filter on a race track can be embarrassing.
>
>    <others?>
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From mark at nashvilletn.org  Mon Jul 25 16:15:17 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:15:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<CAE32063D4B14638B13A1425D2C55461@spider>
Message-ID: <DA731C67C893429F9C950D012750F85A@Dell9200>

Speaking of "caustic comments" where has Ed been lately?

Welcome to the list Seth!

Mark
Nashville 


----- Original Message ----- 

Welcome.
Be aware that there can be some caustic comments thrown about here.
We're really just a bunch of teddy bears though.

From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 16:38:38 2011
From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
References: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1311633518.65477.YahooMailRC@web112702.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

glad you all made the rest of the trip uneventfully.    while along
america's 
highways is not the place to meet friends it was nice to see you
and family as 
well as the friends caravaning along on the way to where my
heart was.
 
chuck
We all got home no problems. Thanks for everything. We had
a blast. 

Frankie and the rest of the Clarici's

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From: Frankie Clarici 4th
<clarici at verizon.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Cc:
EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 7:19:28 PM
Subject:
[Spridgets] 50th bash

From crusaderchuck at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 16:46:50 2011
From: crusaderchuck at yahoo.com (charles christ)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <20110725.101659.14894.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110725.101659.14894.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1311634010.16379.YahooMailRC@web112707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

i got so depressed reading all these posts i just stopped and deleted
them.   
darn car does not run , could not go and really wanted to be there
but we did 
the tow once (to road america) and realised it was out of our
reach in just fuel 
alone.

i'm so glad that the event went off well and all
had a great time.    i just can 
not read any nore about it. 

chuck 
it
really stinks to not have been there...

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 17:44:22 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:44:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQ-gt15NQzK0Lb5M=+3XxXVjLvXtbbGVqYODK=9O+o22g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201107251449426.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<CAHkEVvQ-gt15NQzK0Lb5M=+3XxXVjLvXtbbGVqYODK=9O+o22g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1311637462.35857.YahooMailNeo@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So do jumper cables in lieu of a killswitch on your autocross car. (Dave, I
think I have your cable!)

 
RS
"That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo
the dog


________________________________
From: Trevor Jessie
<trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
by twisting wires under the dash draws strange looks
from others.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 18:27:28 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:27:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Home at last - returned from Midget 50
Message-ID: <CABWjhc++3hD0S7YsPknWL=f_z69gMKVAzJ7BCg2CzYBLiTvSNA@mail.gmail.com>

Peter and I returned safely an (mostly) sane tonight.
We drove a total of 4,605 miles from the time we left on Friday July 15th.
We dipped our feet in Lake Michigan, the Mississippi, the Missouri and the
puddles in the floorboards after a strong thunderstorm somewhere in the
midwest.
The car was burning more oil than ever crossing the Great Divide.
Some of you experienced first hand the oil my car can vaporize in it's wake,
well it was in fine fashion motoring up and over the pass.
That seemed to settle down a bit and today I only had to add a quart and a
pint of STP - I thought WTH why not and poured it in.
It was nice getting over to the west again, the temperatures fell 30 - 40
degrees and it felt good.
I got a nice glass of spring water from my tap and then poured a shot of
Royal Salute to commemorate the end of the trip.
Wow - what a great time we had.
I'll be uploading the rest of my pictures and videos to Picasa tonight then
when I'm less "Road Dumb" I will write some on the blog.
My thanks to everyone who volunteered to make the 50th happen, it was great,
and even the 'not great parts' were great.
You guys are the best. I am not going to name names because I will leave
someone out.
But you guys know who you are. The Woerpels, the Lieb, the Trev, the - well
like I said I'd leave someone out.
Thank you!

Rick (road dumb) Bastedo

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 18:37:37 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:37:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
Message-ID: <CABWjhcJPw+RasLR5_9TxWaNam7Y47YiNe_eHzPeTzPkF63DZQQ@mail.gmail.com>

No matter what you think, or what you are told, a quarter tank of gas isn't
enough to go around a track 4 or 5 times.
Ok, well it is just barely but the last half lap is pretty scary.

Rick (what's that fast ticking sound dad?) Bastedo

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jul 25 18:56:10 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:56:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
Message-ID: <59033499-1311641771-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-731642773-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>

Lesson learned?  A dirty gas tank will ruin your ride with no real warning when the screen clogs and blowing into your tank will let you limp along a little further...

Chris
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul 25 19:04:38 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:04:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
In-Reply-To: <59033499-1311641771-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-731642773-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
References: <59033499-1311641771-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-731642773-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <B6262FB53AB54D74BA6BCC6B0F51678D@spider>

We did that in high school, with a 1932 Model A ....while is was driving
down the road. No windshield and the gas tank filler is there in the middle
of the cowl. Yes, it cuts your mouth with each bump. ...1958
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmanuel at wi.rr.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:56 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th

Lesson learned?  A dirty gas tank will ruin your ride with no real warning
when the screen clogs and blowing into your tank will let you limp along a
little further...

Chris
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
_______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Jul 25 20:21:01 2011
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:21:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake
Message-ID: <4099308D-EC9F-4D67-9666-05993C3FF194@ado13.com>

Sandi and I are home in one piece. We put 4,864 miles on the truck. Not near
that many on the Sprite ;-)

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 00:55:21 2011
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:55:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alan...will this fit in a Sprite"
In-Reply-To: <05f601cc4990$0af776d0$20e66470$@net>
References: <05f601cc4990$0af776d0$20e66470$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEFJhAHOWsAPy4OyNs16Qvw-Y6fdrYOkPTMZ6hHV=6GvQso0sQ@mail.gmail.com>

If I had one of those engines...you bet it would fit!!!
Herb

From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Jul 26 06:39:38 2011
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:39:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pac Northwest BAT Bugeye 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <557b7.223da79f.3b5ec626@aol.com>
References: <557b7.223da79f.3b5ec626@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D85B7FEB-BE32-475C-98AC-B6241EA421B3@me.com>

Had to do a double take - the outside is how my car looked about 40 years ago.

Bob Kitterer and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Jul 25, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:

> _http://bringatrailer.com/2011/07/25/desert-fossil-1960-austin-healey-bugeye
> -sprite/_ 
> (http://bringatrailer.com/2011/07/25/desert-fossil-1960-austin-healey-bugeye-sprite/) 
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From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 26 07:59:38 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:59:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
In-Reply-To: <59033499-1311641771-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.n
	et-731642773-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
References: <59033499-1311641771-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-731642773-@b18.c16.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <201107260659976.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

A Marsh is not a swamp, unless it's drained, then it's fugly.

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Tue Jul 26 07:57:36 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:57:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
Message-ID: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>

OSh!t On The Farm

If you have enough miles on you, you'll remember "Made At Pinewood
Studios." Live And Let Die was filmed at Pinewood right around '72 or
'73. My little RWA was built in 72. But we're not going to live and let
it die. As a matter of fact we've rolled the RWA into Pinewood Garage to
"git-r-done.". Well, at least to get it running and rolling under it's
own power. Pinewood Garage, however, is not a garage but actually a
stand of pines on the farm under which the OSh!T On The Farm will take
place. Because I don't have a garage. Got a barn.. but with the tin roof
rusted nearly off, the pines have better coverage.  Guess I could have
named it Tarpaulin Garage. In any case, it will most likely be a solo
OSh!t. Unless my brother with his welder and beer stops by.

The RWA hasn't run for at least seven years. My OSh!t goal? To have the
RWA running and on the road in 5 weeks, the first weekend of September.
I've got most of my parts. I think. Boxes of parts. Complete brakes,
front to back. Clutch hydraulics.  All tune up stuff. No suspension
items yet. I've already had the radiator re-cored. Belts, hoses and even
a new water valve. I do though, need a new/old heater core housing or
repair it as best I can. All kinds of interior goodies. New front screen
and top. Weather strips and gaskets. I a$$ume the trans is good. May
need a clutch set. I don't know.

Th RWA is a solid car with some minor to moderate rust in the most
typical places. I'm not going for a "restore" at this time. I just want
to get it up and running so I can determine it's other needs. Besides,
the Mrs. is really anxious and "on me" about getting running. She wants
to ride in it.  :)

Anyway, it's OSh!t On The Farm, or as we say down home, sh!t 'er git
off'n the pot. Wish me luck. Send beer. Or corn cobs..... gonna need
both, I reckon.  

Chap
Caintucky

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 08:28:48 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:28:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeTdMoYCBGkt86AoCpVyQrZrmX6HwDCibjuThW3FK8K3ZA@mail.gmail.com>
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How does it work via the outside of the wires I don't get it, can someone or
you Curt embellish? I'm surprized Ed hasn't chimed in that I am thick headed
as he has done in the past. I miss his sarcasm I do hope he is well : (
Lin

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:

> Lin,
>
> No, just sprayed all over the outside of distributor and wires.  This is
> not rocket science even though the parent company is the Rocket and Chemical
> Corporation of San Diego ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Curt,
>> Do you mean you sprayed the inside of the distributor cap? Also the inside
>> connections of the wires? If so did you wipe off prior to assembly?
>> Just to add to my arsenal of knowledge and keep a can in the car.
>> Thanks,
>> Lin
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Lin,
>>>
>>> WD = "Water Displacement" - formula number 40 which means they (the
>>> Rocket and Chemical Company of San Diego) got it wrong 39 times.
>>>
>>> http://www.wd40.com/about-us/history/
>>>
>>> I used this on my Sprite in college (wet Indiana winters) and then when
>>> stationed in Quantico, VA in the 1970s.  I remember driving during a slushy
>>> freezing rain storm, and griving through a huge puddle which splashed slushy
>>> water all over the engine (distributor and wires) and the car sputtered and
>>> died.  .I simply sprayed the WD-40 on the distributor and wires and got it
>>> started right away, and was off again in minutes.  Old British car trick.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Curt I thought WD-40 was silicone not a drying agent. Can you tell me
>>>> where Gordon would spray it?
>>>> Thanks, still learning,
>>>>  Lin
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gordon,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's when that can of WD-40 comes in handy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Curt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gordon Gilomen <ggilomen at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I made it home @ 11:30am.  Came thru a massive storm on 43 and the
>>>>> > *bugeye started to miss badly, pulled over at an underpass & let it
>>>>> dry
>>>>> > out.*  Never had another problem.   That was one great week, thanks
>>>>> to
>>>>> > all that put in your time to make it happen.  GORDON
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 08:30:19 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:30:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Ed is he OK ?????????
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVdL+fSuRESjxzqbBeUOVQWzMUR4pg4-Xsc4oyFAx1zCtw@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I haven't had time to check email so maybe I've missed something. Where is
Ed and is he OK?
I'm concerned.
Ed are you OK????
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 08:32:04 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:32:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
In-Reply-To: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
References: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVeockX5W3X=tLbJHT=WnvE0-UNVZpF9n2wPsiQfJRKOxA@mail.gmail.com>

Where are you located Chap, sounds like a road trip to me. Anyone interested
if it is not too far?
Lin
>From NJ

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lcjones <lcjones at croakingfrog.net> wrote:

> OSh!t On The Farm
>
> If you have enough miles on you, you'll remember "Made At Pinewood
> Studios." Live And Let Die was filmed at Pinewood right around '72 or
> '73. My little RWA was built in 72. But we're not going to live and let
> it die. As a matter of fact we've rolled the RWA into Pinewood Garage to
> "git-r-done.". Well, at least to get it running and rolling under it's
> own power. Pinewood Garage, however, is not a garage but actually a
> stand of pines on the farm under which the OSh!T On The Farm will take
> place. Because I don't have a garage. Got a barn.. but with the tin roof
> rusted nearly off, the pines have better coverage.  Guess I could have
> named it Tarpaulin Garage. In any case, it will most likely be a solo
> OSh!t. Unless my brother with his welder and beer stops by.
>
> The RWA hasn't run for at least seven years. My OSh!t goal? To have the
> RWA running and on the road in 5 weeks, the first weekend of September.
> I've got most of my parts. I think. Boxes of parts. Complete brakes,
> front to back. Clutch hydraulics.  All tune up stuff. No suspension
> items yet. I've already had the radiator re-cored. Belts, hoses and even
> a new water valve. I do though, need a new/old heater core housing or
> repair it as best I can. All kinds of interior goodies. New front screen
> and top. Weather strips and gaskets. I a$$ume the trans is good. May
> need a clutch set. I don't know.
>
> Th RWA is a solid car with some minor to moderate rust in the most
> typical places. I'm not going for a "restore" at this time. I just want
> to get it up and running so I can determine it's other needs. Besides,
> the Mrs. is really anxious and "on me" about getting running. She wants
> to ride in it.  :)
>
> Anyway, it's OSh!t On The Farm, or as we say down home, sh!t 'er git
> off'n the pot. Wish me luck. Send beer. Or corn cobs..... gonna need
> both, I reckon.
>
> Chap
> Caintucky
> _______________________________________________
>
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From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 08:41:48 2011
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:41:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Ed is he OK ?????????
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVdL+fSuRESjxzqbBeUOVQWzMUR4pg4-Xsc4oyFAx1zCtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVdL+fSuRESjxzqbBeUOVQWzMUR4pg4-Xsc4oyFAx1zCtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1311691308.75575.YahooMailNeo@web39410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  He must be up and about as he has posted on facebook recently and it was
rated G !!!!!  ;^)


From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To:
Spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:30 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Ed is he OK ?????????

List,
I haven't had time
to check email so maybe I've missed something. Where is
Ed and is he OK?
I'm
concerned.
Ed are you OK????
Lin
_______________________________________________

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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 08:44:35 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:44:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
In-Reply-To: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
References: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvTgHmCC50LTSJN84YxKFEAKUwW=2Bn5NJyE33hEEQNgPg@mail.gmail.com>

Where in Caintucky? I might know some guys in the area.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lcjones <lcjones at croakingfrog.net> wrote:

> OSh!t On The Farm
>
> If you have enough miles on you, you'll remember "Made At Pinewood
> Studios." Live And Let Die was filmed at Pinewood right around '72 or
> '73. My little RWA was built in 72. But we're not going to live and let
> it die. As a matter of fact we've rolled the RWA into Pinewood Garage to
> "git-r-done.". Well, at least to get it running and rolling under it's
> own power. Pinewood Garage, however, is not a garage but actually a
> stand of pines on the farm under which the OSh!T On The Farm will take
> place. Because I don't have a garage. Got a barn.. but with the tin roof
> rusted nearly off, the pines have better coverage.  Guess I could have
> named it Tarpaulin Garage. In any case, it will most likely be a solo
> OSh!t. Unless my brother with his welder and beer stops by.
>
> The RWA hasn't run for at least seven years. My OSh!t goal? To have the
> RWA running and on the road in 5 weeks, the first weekend of September.
> I've got most of my parts. I think. Boxes of parts. Complete brakes,
> front to back. Clutch hydraulics.  All tune up stuff. No suspension
> items yet. I've already had the radiator re-cored. Belts, hoses and even
> a new water valve. I do though, need a new/old heater core housing or
> repair it as best I can. All kinds of interior goodies. New front screen
> and top. Weather strips and gaskets. I a$$ume the trans is good. May
> need a clutch set. I don't know.
>
> Th RWA is a solid car with some minor to moderate rust in the most
> typical places. I'm not going for a "restore" at this time. I just want
> to get it up and running so I can determine it's other needs. Besides,
> the Mrs. is really anxious and "on me" about getting running. She wants
> to ride in it.  :)
>
> Anyway, it's OSh!t On The Farm, or as we say down home, sh!t 'er git
> off'n the pot. Wish me luck. Send beer. Or corn cobs..... gonna need
> both, I reckon.
>
> Chap
> Caintucky
> _______________________________________________
>
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 08:49:43 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:49:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVdei0AYX+P1au-Tktv1qxeGD4OnEr+WPNBCzrf+7GYoMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <853C375B-5DBD-49AF-BF62-64FEF7516E54@verizon.net>
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Lin,

Just like the water got in there in the first place... "capillary action" or
for example, that the water seeped into the spaces between the wires and the
cap.  Many distributors, such as the one on my 100 have rubber boots on the
cap where the wires exit, to minimize moisture entering the cap through
where the wires are attached.

Mini Coopers/MG 1100's as I recall, even had a rubber boot over the entire
distributor to protect it from water spraying on it.

The WD-40 simply displaces the water that has shorted out the ignition in
and around the wires.

Bottom line is that it works.

Curt

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> How does it work via the outside of the wires I don't get it, can someone
> or you Curt embellish? I'm surprized Ed hasn't chimed in that I am thick
> headed as he has done in the past. I miss his sarcasm I do hope he is well :
> (
> Lin
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Lin,
>>
>> No, just sprayed all over the outside of distributor and wires.  This is
>> not rocket science even though the parent company is the Rocket and Chemical
>> Corporation of San Diego ;-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Curt
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Curt,
>>> Do you mean you sprayed the inside of the distributor cap? Also the
>>> inside connections of the wires? If so did you wipe off prior to assembly?
>>> Just to add to my arsenal of knowledge and keep a can in the car.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Curt/Nancy Arndt <cnaarndt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lin,
>>>>
>>>> WD = "Water Displacement" - formula number 40 which means they (the
>>>> Rocket and Chemical Company of San Diego) got it wrong 39 times.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wd40.com/about-us/history/
>>>>
>>>> I used this on my Sprite in college (wet Indiana winters) and then when
>>>> stationed in Quantico, VA in the 1970s.  I remember driving during a slushy
>>>> freezing rain storm, and griving through a huge puddle which splashed slushy
>>>> water all over the engine (distributor and wires) and the car sputtered and
>>>> died.  .I simply sprayed the WD-40 on the distributor and wires and got it
>>>> started right away, and was off again in minutes.  Old British car trick.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Curt

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 09:01:56 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:01:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Ed is he OK ?????????
In-Reply-To: <1311691308.75575.YahooMailNeo@web39410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <CAL0QtVdL+fSuRESjxzqbBeUOVQWzMUR4pg4-Xsc4oyFAx1zCtw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1311691308.75575.YahooMailNeo@web39410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <-1361738385018959994@unknownmsgid>

> He must be up and about as he has posted on facebook recently and it was
> rated G !!!!!  ;^)

Obviously an imposter!
David L

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 09:11:15 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:11:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <CAJKrNeT_3MR_JsDL+wO_mkjDq+g7PzxMkjeaCDqMfv83biGiBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110726151115.J9G8X.46373.root@cdptpa-web23-z02>

I had a Datsun pickup many years ago and it would have ignition problems when we had damp weather.  I could pull off the distributor cap and find moisture in there, even if the car had been setting for awhile, and even if there was no moisture on the outside.  I could wipe it out with a dry rag and it would start working again.  Of course driving through heavy rain could get everything under the hood wet.  Spray WD40 on everyhing, inside and out if it requires it, wipe it off, and it should start working again.  That is part of what WD40 does.

If your wires were arcing on the outside of the cap then spraying on the outside of the cap only might work.  On my Datsun they would arc on the inside of the cap so I would have to spray the inside.


> > How does it work via the outside of the wires

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 09:15:49 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:15:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Ed is he OK ?????????
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVdL+fSuRESjxzqbBeUOVQWzMUR4pg4-Xsc4oyFAx1zCtw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL0QtVdL+fSuRESjxzqbBeUOVQWzMUR4pg4-Xsc4oyFAx1zCtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OsGH9RhPztGbToK-AdP1UOJ2GxzCO_noozDT0mvb5gTZA@mail.gmail.com>

Ed has always done this.  He disappears for a while, then comes back.  I
think he has a long drive to pick up beer, so it takes a few weeks.

He'll be back when he gets a you-know-what up his you-know-what.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List,
> I haven't had time to check email so maybe I've missed something. Where is
> Ed and is he OK?
> I'm concerned.
> Ed are you OK????
> Lin
> _______________________________________________
>
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From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Tue Jul 26 09:22:43 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:22:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvTgHmCC50LTSJN84YxKFEAKUwW=2Bn5NJyE33hEEQNgPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
	<CAHkEVvTgHmCC50LTSJN84YxKFEAKUwW=2Bn5NJyE33hEEQNgPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E2EDBC3.8040005@croakingfrog.net>

Hey folks,

The farm is about 65 miles dead South of Lexington, Ky.
Here's a bit of silliness from when we first got the RWA home. Five
years ago. It was pretty much parked on jack stands a short while later
and sat there til this past weekend. Nearly five years on stands and off
the ground. She was rolled on to a tarp, jacked up, covered up with
tarps and aired out every few months. Had to clear a wasp nest out from
the rear bumper guard. They didn't seem to appreciate the fact I was
moving their home over to the Pinewood Open Aire Garage.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8agZoXV-w4w&feature=channel_video_title

Chap
****
On 7/26/2011 10:44 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote:
> Where in Caintucky? I might know some guys in the area.
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lcjones <lcjones at croakingfrog.net> wrote:
>
>> OSh!t On The Farm

From cantrall at wrcresearch.com  Tue Jul 26 10:01:51 2011
From: cantrall at wrcresearch.com (William Cantrall)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:01:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] AHCA BlackHawk Track Day August 5
Message-ID: <00b501cc4bad$5746b9a0$05d42ce0$@wrcresearch.com>

Had a great time at Midget 50th!

 

If any of you have contacted me just by mail for our track day, please also
contact me by email or phone, as there may have been a problem with mail
receipt.  We are still accepting registrations, so don't miss out on this
opportunity!  

 

Registration form:  <http://www.wrcresearch.com/trackday>
www.wrcresearch.com/trackday

 

Cheers,

Bill Cantrall

630 969-4374

(work number - feel free to leave a message or send a fax to it)

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 26 10:16:32 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:16:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] AHCA BlackHawk Track Day August 5
In-Reply-To: <00b501cc4bad$5746b9a0$05d42ce0$@wrcresearch.com>
References: <00b501cc4bad$5746b9a0$05d42ce0$@wrcresearch.com>
Message-ID: <20110726091669.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

And I will say.... Blachawk Farms is way more fitting for a Spridget.
         Peter C
---
At 11:01 AM 7/26/2011, William Cantrall wrote:
>Had a great time at Midget 50th!
>
>
>
>If any of you have contacted me just by mail for our track day, please also
>contact me by email or phone, as there may have been a problem with mail
>receipt.  We are still accepting registrations, so don't miss out on this
>opportunity!
>
>
>
>Registration form:  <http://www.wrcresearch.com/trackday>
>www.wrcresearch.com/trackday
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bill Cantrall
>
>630 969-4374
>
>(work number - feel free to leave a message or send a fax to it)
>_______________________________________________

From pchast at francomm.com  Tue Jul 26 12:55:25 2011
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:55:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
In-Reply-To: <CAL0QtVeockX5W3X=tLbJHT=WnvE0-UNVZpF9n2wPsiQfJRKOxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
	<CAL0QtVeockX5W3X=tLbJHT=WnvE0-UNVZpF9n2wPsiQfJRKOxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.vy8pincosjevdj@pete200>

Interested, yes.

Pete
NY

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:32:04 -0400, Linda Grunthaner  
<grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Where are you located Chap, sounds like a road trip to me. Anyone  
> interested
> if it is not too far?
> Lin
>> From NJ
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lcjones <lcjones at croakingfrog.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> OSh!t On The Farm
>>
>> If you have enough miles on you, you'll remember "Made At Pinewood
>> Studios." Live And Let Die was filmed at Pinewood right around '72 or
>> '73. My little RWA was built in 72. But we're not going to live and let
>> it die. As a matter of fact we've rolled the RWA into Pinewood Garage to
>> "git-r-done.". Well, at least to get it running and rolling under it's
>> own power. Pinewood Garage, however, is not a garage but actually a
>> stand of pines on the farm under which the OSh!T On The Farm will take
>> place. Because I don't have a garage. Got a barn.. but with the tin roof
>> rusted nearly off, the pines have better coverage.  Guess I could have
>> named it Tarpaulin Garage. In any case, it will most likely be a solo
>> OSh!t. Unless my brother with his welder and beer stops by.
>>
>> The RWA hasn't run for at least seven years. My OSh!t goal? To have the
>> RWA running and on the road in 5 weeks, the first weekend of September.
>> I've got most of my parts. I think. Boxes of parts. Complete brakes,
>> front to back. Clutch hydraulics.  All tune up stuff. No suspension
>> items yet. I've already had the radiator re-cored. Belts, hoses and even
>> a new water valve. I do though, need a new/old heater core housing or
>> repair it as best I can. All kinds of interior goodies. New front screen
>> and top. Weather strips and gaskets. I a$$ume the trans is good. May
>> need a clutch set. I don't know.
>>
>> Th RWA is a solid car with some minor to moderate rust in the most
>> typical places. I'm not going for a "restore" at this time. I just want
>> to get it up and running so I can determine it's other needs. Besides,
>> the Mrs. is really anxious and "on me" about getting running. She wants
>> to ride in it.  :)
>>
>> Anyway, it's OSh!t On The Farm, or as we say down home, sh!t 'er git
>> off'n the pot. Wish me luck. Send beer. Or corn cobs..... gonna need
>> both, I reckon.
>>
>> Chap
>> Caintucky
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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jul 26 13:07:03 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:07:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG is Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh
 Vintage Grand Prix!
Message-ID: <017901cc4bc7$34b08320$9e118960$@hky.com>

Just wanted to pass this along to the Spridget community:  MG has been named
Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix.  This is a
huge honor (considering that the purpose of PVGP is to raise money for
charity and they always pick marques that are currently producing
automobiles) and a BIG DEAL.

For those unfamiliar with Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix, it is the only
vintage sports car racing event running on public streets.  Specifically,
the course winds it's way up, down and around beautiful, old, wooded
Schenley Park, with the races being the centerpiece of a huge party
celebrating vintage automobiles.  It's a family-friendly event (my wife and
I brought our kids..the youngest at age 3 months..to the event every year
and now they come back with their kids), with something to amuse all of
them, whether they really like cars of not.  

With PVGP now acting as their own race sanctioning body, the 60s and 70s era
production cars (Spridgets, Bs, etc.) can now race at Schenley Park.  There
have always been a bunch of T-series MGs, as well as MGAs racing there, but,
now we are seeing MGBs, and Spridgets in respectable numbers, as well as
Minis (REAL Minis, I mean), Sunbeams, Lotus (Loti?), Lola, Elva, etc.

The region within a 100 mile radius of Pittsburgh offers some great
recreational opportunities (bicycling, camping, canoeing, kayaking, white
water-rafting), B&B lodging, historical sites/museums, Spridget-driving
roads, etc.  You could spend two weekends watching vintage racing in
Pittsburgh, while roaming the surrounding area for the week in between....or
you could attend any/all of the PVGP-related events in and around Pittsburgh
during the week between race weekends.

The dates for the Schenley Park segment of PVGP are July 21 and 22, 2012.
Check it out at: www.pvgp.org 

Bud Osbourne 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 26 13:29:02 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:29:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
Message-ID: <38e3a.200a2c0.3b606f7d@aol.com>

At least in the UK this was an after market purchase.
 
 
In a message dated 26/07/2011 15:49:55 GMT Daylight Time,  
cnaarndt at gmail.com writes:

Mini  Coopers/MG 1100's as I recall, even had a rubber boot over the  entire
distributor to protect it from water spraying on  it.

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jul 26 13:32:06 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:32:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01a601cc4bca$b47ed630$1d7c8290$@hky.com>

Frank stickers???  Sorry, but I must have missed the original post (very
busy with Pittsburgh Vintage GP for the past two weeks).  Is this something
along the lines of the Uncle Jack decals ("Uncle Jack" Drews) the Triumph
guys are displaying to honor the late Jack Drews?
As one who had a great deal of admiration and respect for Frank, I'd be
proud to display something honoring his memory and/or his sense of humor.
Thanks.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:00 AM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!

I got my Frank stickers yesterday and have one posted in the back window of
the Frontier now. What a great job - very high quality. Can't wait to
explain what it is about to the first person who asks about it.
 
Thank you Diane and
Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at all to do
with them.
 
David Booker
Long Island
 
Hope everybody Got, is getting, or
gets home uneventfully from the 50th!
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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jul 26 13:34:17 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:34:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01a701cc4bcb$02cbd9a0$08638ce0$@hky.com>

Frank stickers???  Sorry, but I must have missed the original post (very
busy with Pittsburgh Vintage GP for the past two weeks).  Is this something
along the lines of the Uncle Jack decals ("Uncle Jack" Drews) the Triumph
guys are displaying to honor the late Jack Drews?
As one who had a great deal of admiration and respect for Frank, I'd be
proud to display something honoring his memory and/or his sense of humor.
Thanks.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:00 AM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!

I got my Frank stickers yesterday and have one posted in the back window of
the Frontier now. What a great job - very high quality. Can't wait to
explain what it is about to the first person who asks about it.
 
Thank you Diane and
Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at all to do
with them.
 
David Booker
Long Island
 
Hope everybody Got, is getting, or
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From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 13:35:54 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:35:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin removal
Message-ID: <F19D9C66-1608-4B24-8E32-B71D6D3EF24C@gmail.com>

Yes that tapered cotter pin is infamous.  here is what i have on it
http://www.spridgetguru.com/TA0038.html

It actually is very common on british bicycles.

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 13:46:04 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:46:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin removal
Message-ID: <mailman.15.1311709583.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I thought that pin looked familiar but never made the connection to a bicycle crank pin.

Thanks
------Original Message------
From: Seth Jones
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] king pin removal
Sent: Jul 26, 2011 3:35 PM

Yes that tapered cotter pin is infamous.  here is what i have on it
http://www.spridgetguru.com/TA0038.html

It actually is very common on british bicycles.
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Sent from me.

From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 13:46:50 2011
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curt/Nancy Arndt)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:46:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
In-Reply-To: <38e3a.200a2c0.3b606f7d@aol.com>
References: <38e3a.200a2c0.3b606f7d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAJKrNeSFDM+Kbr8tLaE-adyh1kbLMoBn8FvrX9SsSbYzrKPTTA@mail.gmail.com>

Worth the investment in my opinion since the distributor setup on those cars
was right in front where water could easily contaminate the ignition.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
>  At least in the UK this was an after market purchase.
>
>
> In a message dated 26/07/2011 15:49:55 GMT Daylight Time,
> cnaarndt at gmail.com writes:
>
> Mini Coopers/MG 1100's as I recall, even had a rubber boot over the entire
> distributor to protect it from water spraying on it.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 13:47:12 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:47:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin removal
In-Reply-To: <F19D9C66-1608-4B24-8E32-B71D6D3EF24C@gmail.com>
References: <F19D9C66-1608-4B24-8E32-B71D6D3EF24C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurL+kjH2OKTTBvvC0dYyCtvrnhDT1R4x1-jWAnwo2V5aA@mail.gmail.com>

It is also common on German motorcycles.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Seth Jones <sethamosjones at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes that tapered cotter pin is infamous.  here is what i have on it
> http://www.spridgetguru.com/**TA0038.html<http://www.spridgetguru.com/TA0038.html>
>
> It actually is very common on british bicycles.
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From lmacy at mac.com  Tue Jul 26 13:52:50 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:52:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
In-Reply-To: <01a601cc4bca$b47ed630$1d7c8290$@hky.com>
References: <1311328811.88551.YahooMailNeo@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<01a601cc4bca$b47ed630$1d7c8290$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <14ECA579-111D-47CB-81EF-0EA9A2016387@mac.com>

Bud,

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpg which had a name of Image 7.jpeg]
I am adding a pic of one (and, yes I know it will get stripped from the copy
to the list). Send me an SASE and I'll get a couple out for you.

Larry

On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote:

> Frank stickers???  Sorry, but I must have missed the original post (very
> busy with Pittsburgh Vintage GP for the past two weeks).  Is this something
> along the lines of the Uncle Jack decals ("Uncle Jack" Drews) the Triumph
> guys are displaying to honor the late Jack Drews?
> As one who had a great deal of admiration and respect for Frank, I'd be
> proud to display something honoring his memory and/or his sense of humor.
> Thanks.
> Bud Osbourne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:00 AM
> To: spridget
> Subject: [Spridgets] Frank Stickers!
>
> I got my Frank stickers yesterday and have one posted in the back window of
> the Frontier now. What a great job - very high quality. Can't wait to
> explain what it is about to the first person who asks about it.
>
> Thank you Diane and
> Frankie and Kevin and Larry and everybody else who had anything at all to
do
> with them.
>
> David Booker
> Long Island
>
> Hope everybody Got, is getting, or
> gets home uneventfully from the 50th!
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One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jul 26 14:32:45 2011
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:32:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG is Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh
 Vintage Grand Prix!
In-Reply-To: <017901cc4bc7$34b08320$9e118960$@hky.com>
References: <017901cc4bc7$34b08320$9e118960$@hky.com>
Message-ID: <8CE19EA4FD12729-1C2C-BF3E@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>

Just got back the night before last, from this years running. Bud...I think I
missed seeing you. Great event, see you next year.

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
'60 AH Bugeye Sprite
'68 Austin Mini







-----Original Message-----
From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:07 pm
Subject: [Spridgets] MG is Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh
Vintage Grand Prix!


Just wanted to pass this along to the Spridget community:  MG has been named
arque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix.  This is a
uge honor (considering that the purpose of PVGP is to raise money for
harity and they always pick marques that are currently producing
utomobiles) and a BIG DEAL.
For those unfamiliar with Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix, it is the only
intage sports car racing event running on public streets.  Specifically,
he course winds it's way up, down and around beautiful, old, wooded
chenley Park, with the races being the centerpiece of a huge party
elebrating vintage automobiles.  It's a family-friendly event (my wife and
 brought our kids..the youngest at age 3 months..to the event every year
nd now they come back with their kids), with something to amuse all of
hem, whether they really like cars of not.
With PVGP now acting as their own race sanctioning body, the 60s and 70s era
roduction cars (Spridgets, Bs, etc.) can now race at Schenley Park.  There
ave always been a bunch of T-series MGs, as well as MGAs racing there, but,
ow we are seeing MGBs, and Spridgets in respectable numbers, as well as
inis (REAL Minis, I mean), Sunbeams, Lotus (Loti?), Lola, Elva, etc.
The region within a 100 mile radius of Pittsburgh offers some great
ecreational opportunities (bicycling, camping, canoeing, kayaking, white
ater-rafting), B&B lodging, historical sites/museums, Spridget-driving
oads, etc.  You could spend two weekends watching vintage racing in
ittsburgh, while roaming the surrounding area for the week in between....or
ou could attend any/all of the PVGP-related events in and around Pittsburgh
uring the week between race weekends.
The dates for the Schenley Park segment of PVGP are July 21 and 22, 2012.
heck it out at: www.pvgp.org
Bud Osbourne
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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jul 26 14:47:15 2011
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:47:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG is Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh
 Vintage Grand Prix!
In-Reply-To: <8CE19EA4FD12729-1C2C-BF3E@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
References: <017901cc4bc7$34b08320$9e118960$@hky.com>
	<8CE19EA4FD12729-1C2C-BF3E@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <01fc01cc4bd5$34571020$9d053060$@hky.com>

Yeah, I missed seeing a whole bunch of my Brit car friends, this year.  It
seems that I got drafted to help out with the Porsche Marque of the Year
festivities and I was only able to venture up the hill to British Car Day
for a short while on Saturday afternoon.  Had a great time with the Porsche
356 folks, but my wife and I found that we really missed not being up there
with youns (Pittsburgheese for y'all).

By the time Sunday rolled around and we got that damn parade lap done (my
wife really wanted to do it, this year...but I only got the clutch fully
engaged in 1st gear about three times on the whole bloody lap!!!), we had
just enough energy left to find our chairs under a big ol' shade tree and
let our kids & grandkids bring food & refreshments to us the rest of the
day.

Next year, we'll be back on the hill for British Car Day & MG Marque of the
Year events, for sure!

Bud

 

From: miniac7 at aol.com [mailto:miniac7 at aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:33 PM
To: abcoz at hky.com; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG is Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh
Vintage Grand Prix!

 

Just got back the night before last, from this years running. Bud...I think
I missed seeing you. Great event, see you next year.  

 

Howard Collins

Virginia Beach, VA.

'60 AH Bugeye Sprite

'68 Austin Mini 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:07 pm
Subject: [Spridgets] MG is Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh
Vintage Grand Prix!

Just wanted to pass this along to the Spridget community:  MG has been named
Marque of the Year at next year's Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix.  This is a
huge honor (considering that the purpose of PVGP is to raise money for
charity and they always pick marques that are currently producing
automobiles) and a BIG DEAL.
 
For those unfamiliar with Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix, it is the only
vintage sports car racing event running on public streets.  Specifically,
the course winds it's way up, down and around beautiful, old, wooded
Schenley Park, with the races being the centerpiece of a huge party
celebrating vintage automobiles.  It's a family-friendly event (my wife and
I brought our kids..the youngest at age 3 months..to the event every year
and now they come back with their kids), with something to amuse all of
them, whether they really like cars of not.  
 
With PVGP now acting as their own race sanctioning body, the 60s and 70s era
production cars (Spridgets, Bs, etc.) can now race at Schenley Park.  There
have always been a bunch of T-series MGs, as well as MGAs racing there, but,
now we are seeing MGBs, and Spridgets in respectable numbers, as well as
Minis (REAL Minis, I mean), Sunbeams, Lotus (Loti?), Lola, Elva, etc.
 
The region within a 100 mile radius of Pittsburgh offers some great
recreational opportunities (bicycling, camping, canoeing, kayaking, white
water-rafting), B&B lodging, historical sites/museums, Spridget-driving
roads, etc.  You could spend two weekends watching vintage racing in
Pittsburgh, while roaming the surrounding area for the week in between....or
you could attend any/all of the PVGP-related events in and around Pittsburgh
during the week between race weekends.
 
The dates for the Schenley Park segment of PVGP are July 21 and 22, 2012.
Check it out at: www.pvgp.org <http://www.pvgp.org/>  
 
Bud Osbourne 

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 14:58:17 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:58:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Panorama of the Midget 50 Group at The Cheese factory
Message-ID: <766BBA85-7F65-4BCB-BCFB-302C106A7BA3@gmail.com>

http://www.spridgetguru.com/Panorama2.jpg

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jul 26 15:18:49 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:18:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Personal Update (no LBC)
Message-ID: <702433170.20110726141849@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

          Talked to the nuerosurgeon today. He had looked at the MRI,
          and after talking to me and doing a couple of tests on my
          foot said "near text book case" "surgery no doubt". It's
          scheduled for next Tuesday. I should be back to work in
          about a week and half, if all goes according to hoyle. 

-- 
Best regards,
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 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
      * "I had an accident in the kitchen," said Tom with panache.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 26 16:08:38 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:08:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Personal Update (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <702433170.20110726141849@pacifier.com>
References: <702433170.20110726141849@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <AF9C6EA653A94A59BB70DA98D4AE8333@HomePC>

Best of luck with that, Bill.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill L
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:18 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Personal Update (no LBC)

Hello Spridgets,

          Talked to the nuerosurgeon today. He had looked at the MRI,
          and after talking to me and doing a couple of tests on my
          foot said "near text book case" "surgery no doubt". It's
          scheduled for next Tuesday. I should be back to work in
          about a week and half, if all goes according to hoyle.

-- 
Best regards,
Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

'66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 16:44:48 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:44:48 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Relief Gallery
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Mike,

You may be on the right track.  Worked on a Messerschmidt Bf 109 several
years ago and she blew an oil line on run up.  Seems an in-house made
gasket was put in upside down and actually covered the passage way.  Oops.
We had a lot of oil to clean up.  Nope, I didn't install the gasket!  We
did use 2 bags of oil-dry though.

No help, just an anecdote.

Good luck.

Dave W.


> I have a serious oil overpressure problem with the 1275 in my Bugeye.  An
> adjustable oil relief valve from APT did not help, even when adjusted all
> the
> way out.  David Anton suspects the oil gallery relief hole is plugged or
> was
> inadvertantly sealed by mistake along with the othe other galleries that
> are
> supposed to be sealed when the short block was rebuilt a few years ago.  I
> will be pulling this engine in the next few weeks to try to determine just
> exactly where the overpressure is coming from.  Does anyone know exactly
> where
> I should look to determine which hole is the relief gallery hole in the
> area
> of the oil pan under the engine?
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> 02 Heritage Springer
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 17:12:19 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:12:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th bash
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We're coming out!  If it's 72 there we're on our way.....we wish.
It was great to meet all of you and I think we need an Gathering to outfit
a Spridget for Katie.  I'm expecting to see Tamara racing in vintage races
soon OR the IRL!!

Good times Great memories.  Thanks!

Dave W.



> We made it home around 5 pm on Saturday, Boy is it nice to be back on my
> mountain top-72*F! I still had to sleep with the windows wide open though!
> thanks to everyone who did such an amazing job with the planning. It was
> great
> to get back on the track again. I'm sorry that Jim Johnson and Gerard
> Chateauvieux were unable to make it after doing so much work on the
> planning
> and all.
> Katie wore the 'Cheese Head' almost all of the way home (except when it
> got
> really hot!) and Tamara is still bouncing off of the walls after getting
> second in the autox. For those who weren't in the know, I hadn't let her
> drive
> the Bugeye until the way back to Victorian Village the day before the
> autocross, so the first run of autocross for her was only the third time
> that
> she'd been behind the wheel of it.
> Thanks to everyone for being so inclusive with my daughters, they had a
> great
> time and are both asking for their OWN SPRITES!
>
>
> Mark Haynes
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Tue Jul 26 17:19:25 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:19:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Personal Update (no LBC)
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Bill,

Slicing and dicing what??  And Arthroscopic?

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 18:24:37 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:24:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Relief Gallery
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On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:44 PM,  <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
Worked on a Messerschmidt Bf 109 several years ago and she blew an oil
line on run up.  Seems an in-house made gasket was put in upside down
and actually covered the passage way.  Oops.
----------------------------------------------
So how did that happen? Were the directions in German or something???

--
ED

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 18:46:37 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:46:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
Message-ID: <4E2F5FED.7010900@wi.net>

Ron,

Keep it,  you may need it.  Order a new kill switch yet?

Trevor, Did you lose your keys during the 50th or on the way home?
Pretty funny.  Thanks for sharing a bit of Kentucky's Best with us!

Dave W.



On 7/25/2011 6:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote:
>  So do jumper cables in lieu of a killswitch on your autocross car. (Dave, I
>  think I have your cable!)
>
>
>  RS
>  "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo
>  the dog
>
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: Trevor Jessie
>  <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
>  by twisting wires under the dash draws strange looks
>  from others.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 18:17:31 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:17:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Home at last - returned from Midget 50
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4605 miles!!  Awesome, guys.  How are your butts (nothing personal)?  
They have to be shaped like the seats!  Did you finally lie in bed, 
close your eyes and see center-lines and hear the drone?
Do absolutely nothing for a week, finish the bottle of Salute, and 
you'll be fine.

Thanks for coming out and it was awesome to meet Peter the Great (that's 
his name after the drag race!).

Do we need a NOSHIT meeting to take care of the car?   ;-)

Dave W.

On 7/25/2011 7:27 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote:
> Peter and I returned safely an (mostly) sane tonight.
> We drove a total of 4,605 miles from the time we left on Friday July 15th.
> We dipped our feet in Lake Michigan, the Mississippi, the Missouri and the
> puddles in the floorboards after a strong thunderstorm somewhere in the
> midwest.
> The car was burning more oil than ever crossing the Great Divide.
> Some of you experienced first hand the oil my car can vaporize in it's wake,
> well it was in fine fashion motoring up and over the pass.
> That seemed to settle down a bit and today I only had to add a quart and a
> pint of STP - I thought WTH why not and poured it in.
> It was nice getting over to the west again, the temperatures fell 30 - 40
> degrees and it felt good.
> I got a nice glass of spring water from my tap and then poured a shot of
> Royal Salute to commemorate the end of the trip.
> Wow - what a great time we had.
> I'll be uploading the rest of my pictures and videos to Picasa tonight then
> when I'm less "Road Dumb" I will write some on the blog.
> My thanks to everyone who volunteered to make the 50th happen, it was great,
> and even the 'not great parts' were great.
> You guys are the best. I am not going to name names because I will leave
> someone out.
> But you guys know who you are. The Woerpels, the Lieb, the Trev, the - well
> like I said I'd leave someone out.
> Thank you!
>
> Rick (road dumb) Bastedo
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 18:10:50 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
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Ron,

Keep it,  you may need it.  Order a new kill switch yet?

Trevor, Did you lose your keys during the 50th or on the way home?  
Pretty funny.  Thanks for sharing a bit of Kentucky's Best with us!

Dave W.



On 7/25/2011 6:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote:
> So do jumper cables in lieu of a killswitch on your autocross car. (Dave, I
> think I have your cable!)
>
>
> RS
> "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo
> the dog
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Trevor Jessie
> <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
> by twisting wires under the dash draws strange looks
> from others.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 18:07:50 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:07:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
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Hi Seth,

Welcome to the list...I think... ;-)

Glad you and Guinevere got home safely. Brakes working OK? It was a
pleasure meeting the "four" of you. As most people responded this is a
heck of a list with some interesting off-topic threads. Now if you can
contribute some quantum mechanics or string theory (NOT string cheese,
Peter!) you will elevate this group. Actually if you can talk about
earthworms, you'd elevate this group.

What area of employment are you seeking? We'd be happy to tell you
where not to look! Actually this list is really diversified and may
actually help you out.

Pay it Forward folks,

Dave W.
Oh, if you haven't discovered it yet, when you make a reply to the list
you need to delete the "Donate: ........" part following you signature.




On 7/25/2011 11:55 AM, Seth Jones wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I 
> look forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't 
> know, I have a 1971 MG Midget (named Guenevire) that I have known 
> since 1987ish (I was 6).  That car and I have been through a lot, and 
> I would hate to ever let it go.  I am in the process of exploring 
> carreer options and trying to find or create work and in a way the 
> Midget 50 was one last hurrah before mothballing the car until my 
> situation improves.  I will still hang out on the forums and on this 
> list, and update my website.  I look forward to getting to know those 
> of you I haven't met yet.  Hearing the memorials at the Midget 50 made 
> me wish I had known both of them.
>
> -seth jones

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 18:01:10 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:01:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
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Hi Seth,

Welcome to the list...I think...  ;-)

Glad you and Guinevere got home safely.  Brakes working OK?  It was a 
pleasure meeting the "four" of you.  As most people responded this is a 
heck of a list with some interesting off-topic threads.  Now if you can 
contribute some quantum mechanics or string theory (NOT string cheese, 
Peter!) you will elevate this group.  Actually if you can talk about 
earthworms, you'd elevate this group.

What area of employment are you seeking?  We'd be happy to tell you 
where not to look!  Actually this list is really diversified and may 
actually help you out.

Pay it Forward folks,

Dave W.
Oh, if you haven't discovered it yet, when you make a reply to the list 
you need to delete the "Donate: ........" part following you signature.


On 7/25/2011 11:55 AM, Seth Jones wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I 
> look forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't 
> know, I have a 1971 MG Midget (named Guenevire) that I have known 
> since 1987ish (I was 6).  That car and I have been through a lot, and 
> I would hate to ever let it go.  I am in the process of exploring 
> carreer options and trying to find or create work and in a way the 
> Midget 50 was one last hurrah before mothballing the car until my 
> situation improves.  I will still hang out on the forums and on this 
> list, and update my website.  I look forward to getting to know those 
> of you I haven't met yet.  Hearing the memorials at the Midget 50 made 
> me wish I had known both of them.
>
> -seth jones
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 18:52:23 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:52:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Personal Update (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <702433170.20110726141849@pacifier.com>
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Message-ID: <4E2F6147.2050908@wi.net>

Best of luck Bill!  We missed you but hope to see you at the next 
event!  Do what the docs and nurses tell you.

Hmmm, surgery on the same day as the debt ceiling is due.  Positive 
thoughts!
Dave and Terri W.

On 7/26/2011 4:18 PM, Bill L wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>            Talked to the nuerosurgeon today. He had looked at the MRI,
>            and after talking to me and doing a couple of tests on my
>            foot said "near text book case" "surgery no doubt". It's
>            scheduled for next Tuesday. I should be back to work in
>            about a week and half, if all goes according to hoyle.

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 19:38:00 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:38:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lessons learned at the 50th
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I lost them outside the theatre.  Someone turned them into the Vic Vill
office.  They mailed them to the "owner" of the room I was staying in
because I had put my room key on that keyring. I have no idea why they
didn't ask the person staying in the room that week.  I guess the Healey
Sprite keychain confused them... if only it had been my MG Midget keychain.
 :(

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

>
> Trevor, Did you lose your keys during the 50th or on the way home?
> Pretty funny.  Thanks for sharing a bit of Kentucky's Best with us!
>
> Dave W.
>
>
>
>
> On 7/25/2011 6:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote:
>
>>  So do jumper cables in lieu of a killswitch on your autocross car. (Dave,
>> I
>>  think I have your cable!)
>>
>>
>>  RS
>>  "That which you manifest is before you" - Enzo
>>  the dog
>>
>>
>>  ______________________________**__
>>  From: Trevor Jessie
>>  <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
>>  by twisting wires under the dash draws strange looks
>>  from others.
>>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jul 26 19:43:33 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:43:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Relief Gallery
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How many of those things (Bf 109) are left?  ...bill in corvallis
==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:25 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil Relief Gallery

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:44 PM,  <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
Worked on a Messerschmitt Bf 109 several years ago and she blew an oil
line on run up.  Seems an in-house made gasket was put in upside down
and actually covered the passage way.  Oops.
----------------------------------------------
So how did that happen? Were the directions in German or something???

--
ED
_______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jul 26 19:47:38 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:47:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
Message-ID: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

     To make a short story L O N G


     Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
     smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
     neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
     bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
     washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
     tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
     of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
     screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
     completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
     they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
     as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
     or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
     Sunday.

     So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
     before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
     back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?

     I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
     onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
     gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
     and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
     cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
     slow dripping out.

     Anything else I should know?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
   "It's not fair!" said Tom darkly.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Jul 26 19:59:38 2011
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:59:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <9c4a79$cr5ic2@email.mtu.edu>

>      Anything else I should know?

The telephone number of the fire department. That was too easy, Bill! LOL


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/sets/ 

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 26 20:01:18 2011
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:01:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone looking for a '64  Midget Project?
Message-ID: <1ABDDE7A926E4C6D80563AD7E8AC81F4@HomeComputer>

Not mine, but on the local CraigsList:
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2468040580.html

1964 MG Midget wire wheel Project (being sold for parts) but it looked
complete (except seat - now in my garage) - engine, trans and interior (and
floors) removed. Needs floors, rocker panel and A-pillar work.

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 26 20:04:08 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:04:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W5BA7D9A08018A9B5B63D7CA350@phx.gbl>

Bill
Pull the hose off of your front carb and stick it in the fuel can- let the
fuel pump do the work. Won't take too long and is much safer than siphoning.
Also disconnect the small wire that goes from the coil to the distributor to
keep the points (or Pertronix) from getting power and burning out.
BillM

> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:47:38 -0700
> From: pythias at pacifier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>      To make a short story L O N G
>
>
>      Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>      smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>      neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>      bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>      washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>      tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>      of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>      screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>      completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>      they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>      as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>      or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>      Sunday.
>
>      So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>      before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>      back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>
>      I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>      onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>      gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>      and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>      cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>      slow dripping out.
>
>      Anything else I should know?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>    "It's not fair!" said Tom darkly.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jul 26 20:09:14 2011
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:09:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Week National Meet 2012
Message-ID: <94aa.6a3736cb.3b60cd4a@aol.com>

I'd like to call to everyone's attention, what promises to be a  fantastic 
and memorable British car event which is coming in 2012 as a part of  the 
annual British Car Week. 
Planning is currently underway for the first ever national gathering of  
British cars and their owners. The inaugural British Car Week National  Meet, 
will be held at Hot Springs National Park, in Hot Springs,  Arkansas from 
Wednesday, May 30 thru Sunday, June 3.  I personally  have already made my 
plans to attend, and I hope to see many of you there in  order to share in the 
fun. 
You are invited to join your fellow British Car owners and British Car 
Clubs  from all over the United States for an assortment of great driving tours, 
a best  British car club competition, free concerts, an awards banquet, a 
popular vote  car show, a judged Concours d'Elegance, road rallies, 
self-guided as  well as group driving tours, a British marque golf tournament, a 
timed  driving event, tech sessions, guest speakers, a casino night, a group 
photo, and  an array of themed car shows (top 5 of each marque show, daily 
driver  of each marque show, etc.) just to name a few of the  planned 
activities. 
There will also be a variety of individual social activities hosted,  
organized or sponsored by various marque groups, such as, an ice cream  social by 
an Austin Healey owners group, a Sprite vs Midget oyster  eating contest, a 
Morgan owners breakfast, an MGA owners lunch, a  concert hosted by a 
classic Mini club, etc. Basically anything  that individuals, marques or clubs 
would like to plan or be associated with  will be considered by the organizers, 
at no cost to the named group, as long as  the activities are safe, legal, 
fun and interesting. The Garland County United  Way is taking on the 
Concours, and the Hot Springs Chamber of Commerce is  putting together a digital 
camera scavenger hunt. Event sponsorships and naming  opportunities for 
activities are currently available for car clubs, groups,  companies, 
organizations, parts suppliers, vendors etc.  If you have an  interest in this, please 
contact the event chair whose email address is listed  on the web site home 
page. 
For the Concours d'Elegance, the organizers are looking for concours  
quality cars in each marque to compete. If you or someone you know has a high  
quality car that would fit that bill and qualify for a judged concours  
competition, participation in that event is strongly and respectfully  encouraged. 
   
Again, this promises to be a fantastic all British marque event,  which I 
urge you to consider attending. The event web site has just been  launched 
and can be found at _http://www.britishcarweeknationalmeet.org_ 
(http://www.britishcarweeknationalmeet.org/)    Please take a few minutes to peruse the 
web site and see what the organizers  have in store for the British car 
community in 2012.  
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
'60 AH Bugeye Sprite
'68 Austin Mini

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Jul 26 20:44:51 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:44:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Midget For Sale in Nashville
Message-ID: <837A792FC63140F5B60CAACA5555F496@Dell9200>

This car is my old Midget that I sold back to the original owner in 2000, 
nice low mileage car when I sold it.  Don't know about the Weber, it ran 
great with the SU's.  It had about 28000 original miles on it when I sold it 
now 30000, it's real mileage!

http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/2499986232.html

Mark
Nashville 

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jul 26 20:50:23 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:50:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Relief Gallery Now Bf 109
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0y=czKCPRMDzpCMMf_cG4zaEd68A8f6FhBVmBJxecvPdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1311569101.63897.YahooMailClassic@web180605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<53772.184.205.137.206.1311720288.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<CA+Xq+0y=czKCPRMDzpCMMf_cG4zaEd68A8f6FhBVmBJxecvPdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E2F7CEF.7070900@wi.net>

Actually a Spanish version with a Maytag built engine that was in 
right-side up instead of the inverted Daimler-Benz.  Yellow + 1 <_ (the 
ships designation) was used in the filming of the Battle of Britain and 
resides at the EAA Museum in Oshkosh WI.  The gasket is actually 
symmetrical and could fit either way  OR the chap forgot to cutout the 
passage way.
Now there are probably less than a dozen left flying and most are on 
display and a few under restoration.  See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_surviving_Messerschmitt_Bf_109s#HA-109-K1L_.28Bf_109G-2.29

Fun plane to sit in and let your mind play games!  Willy Messerschmitt 
had some clever ideas.

Dave W.



On 7/26/2011 7:24 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:44 PM,<dwoerpel at wi.net>  wrote:
> Worked on a Messerschmidt Bf 109 several years ago and she blew an oil
> line on run up.  Seems an in-house made gasket was put in upside down
> and actually covered the passage way.  Oops.
> ----------------------------------------------
> So how did that happen? Were the directions in German or something???
>
> --
> ED

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 26 21:01:57 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:01:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone looking for a '64  Midget Project?
In-Reply-To: <1ABDDE7A926E4C6D80563AD7E8AC81F4@HomeComputer>
References: <1ABDDE7A926E4C6D80563AD7E8AC81F4@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W47A1C10068BF4E290F5D91CA350@phx.gbl>

Is this a side-curtain or roll-up window car?
If it is a roll-up I have a body with very little rust that would go with the
parts very well- cheap!!
BillM

> From: d.swanson at earthlink.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:01:18 -0400
> Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone looking for a '64  Midget Project?
>
> Not mine, but on the local CraigsList:
> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2468040580.html
>
> 1964 MG Midget wire wheel Project (being sold for parts) but it looked
> complete (except seat - now in my garage) - engine, trans and interior (and
> floors) removed. Needs floors, rocker panel and A-pillar work.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 21:06:43 2011
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:06:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <001701cc4c0a$369f5f60$a3de1e20$@rr.com>

I'm going to drop and boil my tank hopefully this week.  I only have a
gallon or 2 left in it and a lawn to mow so I'm OK there on where to put the
contents.  

Additionally I also have a dirt area away from the house to take care of the
flushing and boiling.

I'll take photos if it's boring, videos if it isn't.

Chris 

1966 MKIII 1275

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:48 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?

Hello Spridgets,

     To make a short story L O N G


     Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
     smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
     neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
     bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
     washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
     tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
     of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
     screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
     completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
     they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
     as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
     or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
     Sunday.

     So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
     before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
     back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?

     I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
     onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
     gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
     and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
     cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
     slow dripping out.

     Anything else I should know?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
   "It's not fair!" said Tom darkly.

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 26 21:17:14 2011
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <mailman.24557.1311732581.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.24557.1311732581.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4E2F833A.3080709@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Seth,

It was good to meet you in Elkhart Lake. I'm glad you made it back 
without further mechanical drama.

Lee

For those that don't know, Seth has a series of YouTube Midget videos, 
including a great set on replacing the door locks. His videos were a 
huge help to me when I was completing my car in time for Spridget 50 at 
LoTO in 2008. I recognized him from the video and introduced myself.


>
> On 7/25/2011 11:55 AM, Seth Jones wrote:
>> >  Hi everybody!
>> >
>> >  Glad I had the chance to learn about this list at the midget 50.  I
>> >  look forward to chatting with you all.   For those of you who don't
>> >  know, I have a 1971 MG Midget (named Guenevire) that I have known
>> >  since 1987ish (I was 6).  That car and I have been through a lot, and
>> >  I would hate to ever let it go.  I am in the process of exploring
>> >  carreer options and trying to find or create work and in a way the
>> >  Midget 50 was one last hurrah before mothballing the car until my
>> >  situation improves.  I will still hang out on the forums and on this
>> >  list, and update my website.  I look forward to getting to know those
>> >  of you I haven't met yet.  Hearing the memorials at the Midget 50 made
>> >  me wish I had known both of them.
>> >
>> >  -seth jones
>> >  _________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 21:50:05 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:50:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Personal Update (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <702433170.20110726141849@pacifier.com>
References: <702433170.20110726141849@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqnuRQxVStctM6_CAXyqPC-jqM2+TSkZtWqJsiikeqMFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hoyle was an optimist...

Good luck with the surgery Bill.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>          Talked to the nuerosurgeon today. He had looked at the MRI,
>          and after talking to me and doing a couple of tests on my
>          foot said "near text book case" "surgery no doubt". It's
>          scheduled for next Tuesday. I should be back to work in
>          about a week and half, if all goes according to hoyle.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>      * "I had an accident in the kitchen," said Tom with panache.
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 21:58:06 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:58:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>

Assuming these tanks are much like motorcycle tanks I've worked on DO NOT
ATTEMPT TO WELD ON IT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS!!!  Even after being rinsed out
numerous times, they are still ticking time bombs.  Frank used to boil his
out on the barbie...  Only way I can think of to be certain there isn't the
slightest vestige of gas left in them and even that is too dangerous for my
blood!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>     To make a short story L O N G
>
>
>     Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>     smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>     neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>     bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>     washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>     tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>     of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>     screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>     completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>     they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>     as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>     or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>     Sunday.
>
>     So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>     before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>     back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>
>     I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>     onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>     gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>     and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>     cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>     slow dripping out.
>
>     Anything else I should know?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>   "It's not fair!" said Tom darkly.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 22:45:54 2011
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:45:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <9c4a79$cr5ic2@email.mtu.edu>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<9c4a79$cr5ic2@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <CAM6-Rje+bjPLvQSTsQq8zR8Cm5LUCkFyi4_eK8L+x37ue1C+SQ@mail.gmail.com>

Tim,
That would be 9-1-1
Hal

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

>     Anything else I should know?
>>
>
> The telephone number of the fire department. That was too easy, Bill! LOL
>
>
> Tim Collins
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From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 22:45:53 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:45:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001101cc4c18$114f2f70$33ed8e50$@rr.com>

Solder fuel tanks, don't weld them. Do not use an open flame. I put baking
soda and vinegar in a fuel tank after I  wash it out. It fills the tank with
CO2. That leaves the tank with no oxygen to support combustion. 

When I was much younger, I brazed up a hole in a 2 month old XKE fuel tank.
I used the baking soda and vinegar trick. Sure did clear out the shop. :-)
Soldering is MUCH safer.
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:58 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?

Assuming these tanks are much like motorcycle tanks I've worked on DO NOT
ATTEMPT TO WELD ON IT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS!!!  Even after being rinsed out
numerous times, they are still ticking time bombs.  Frank used to boil his
out on the barbie...  Only way I can think of to be certain there isn't the
slightest vestige of gas left in them and even that is too dangerous for my
blood!!

Cheers!!
Jim

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 23:45:07 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:45:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Never seen one done like this...
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0z1Uuf+jF87UF+xxSDvoK95ZYoHCU2ex=+AihV7TjuzbQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/2504955221.html

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jul 26 23:55:34 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:55:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com>

Hello,

     
       Someone said NAPA has a sealant that one need not even drain
       the tank..I found PERMATEX 12020 listed. I'll give that  try
       first. If it doesn't work Bob Walker has offered a tank he has
       sitting in his shop.

       The best of the tips in my mind, aside from the safety
       considerations were to use the fuel pump to empty the tank
       rather than trying to syphon out the gas! And if i'm going to
       attempt a real repair to fill it with C02 by putting in vinegar
       and baking soda first to prevent any chance of combustion. ..

       Thanx for the tips everyone...


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  He who puts his nose to the grindstone is a bloody fool.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul 27 00:17:14 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:17:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
Message-ID: <2bb54.18f34066.3b610769@aol.com>

The price of a brand new tank?
 
 
In a message dated 27/07/2011 02:53:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

Anything  else I should know?

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Jul 27 01:23:54 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:23:54 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Never seen one done like this...
References: <CA+Xq+0z1Uuf+jF87UF+xxSDvoK95ZYoHCU2ex=+AihV7TjuzbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7834577B4DF74EFF9AC359DA35315426@user8634b3d69b>

Gross

I hope I never see another


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CosmicMag1380" <>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:45 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Never seen one done like this...


> http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/2504955221.html
> 
> -- 
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
> 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
> _______________________________________________

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 27 04:12:32 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:12:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1868947544.700038.1311761552507.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

While this may seem a shameless promotion of my town, everything is booming. All the mines are operating at full capacity, another huge strike has been discovered about 50 miles west.

What it boils down to is, if you can breath and pass a drug test, there is a job waiting for you in almost any field.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Woerpel" <dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:07:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list


What area of employment are you seeking? We'd be happy to tell you
where not to look! Actually this list is really diversified and may
actually help you out.

Pay it Forward folks,

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jul 27 04:56:40 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 03:56:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] jobs; was "new to the list"
In-Reply-To: <1868947544.700038.1311761552507.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net>
	<1868947544.700038.1311761552507.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <E0E2403250BA4125913B4BB68859E638@spider>

Kate, fill us in. My son is looking for work. 
...bill in corvallis
====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgb at frontiernet.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:13 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list

While this may seem a shameless promotion of my town, everything is booming.
All the mines are operating at full capacity, another huge strike has been
discovered about 50 miles west.

What it boils down to is, if you can breath and pass a drug test, there is a
job waiting for you in almost any field.

Kate
===========================================================
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To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:07:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list


What area of employment are you seeking? We'd be happy to tell you
where not to look! Actually this list is really diversified and may
actually help you out.

Pay it Forward folks,
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Wed Jul 27 05:23:58 2011
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:23:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <201107271124.p6RBOi7Y003249@mail.usimperio.com>

Siphon it out and pour it into another car, lawnmower, truck, 
neighbors car, over the cat. There is always someplace to get rid of extra gas.

Dave


At 09:47 PM 7/26/2011, you wrote:
>Hello Spridgets,
>
>      To make a short story L O N G
>
>
>      Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>      smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>      neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>      bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>      washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>      tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>      of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>      screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>      completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>      they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>      as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>      or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>      Sunday.
>
>      So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>      before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>      back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>
>      I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>      onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>      gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>      and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>      cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>      slow dripping out.
>
>      Anything else I should know?
>
>--
>Best regards,
>  Bill L.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jul 27 07:28:28 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:28:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <925300716.20110727062828@pacifier.com>

Hello,

    As far as emptying the tank, ..


    the hole is as the bottom... I can take out the present plug and
    let the tank drain by itself...

    D'oh!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Hi. I'll be your tagline for this evening. 

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 07:55:07 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:55:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <001701cc4c0a$369f5f60$a3de1e20$@rr.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<001701cc4c0a$369f5f60$a3de1e20$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>

Chris,

I actually did this several years ago and called, who else, Frank.  He 
told me to:

1.  drain gas
2.  rinse thoroughly
3.  fill about a 1/4 full will water
4.  fire up the barby (if gas-fired start with low heat and then 
increase gradually)(Mine is charcoal but I used wood)
5.  allow to boil but do not boil off all the water as it may get too 
hot and melt the "nylon" pick-up screen.
6.  wearing mits, slosh the remaining water around and dump the 
remaining water and allow to dry.  The residual heat dried it quickly.  
I then used a propane torch and went around the outside to drive off any 
moisture lurking in the tank and partition seams.

Tank was clean and I could see where I needed to close some holes around 
the filler neck.  I sandblasted and painted and installed.

Send the kids to the park just in case.  ;-)

Let me know if you want help.

Dave W.



On 7/26/2011 10:06 PM, Chris Manuel wrote:
> I'm going to drop and boil my tank hopefully this week.  I only have a
> gallon or 2 left in it and a lawn to mow so I'm OK there on where to put the
> contents.
>
> Additionally I also have a dirt area away from the house to take care of the
> flushing and boiling.
>
> I'll take photos if it's boring, videos if it isn't.
>
> Chris
>
> 1966 MKIII 1275
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:48 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>       To make a short story L O N G
>
>
>       Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>       smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>       neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>       bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>       washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>       tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>       of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>       screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>       completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>       they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>       as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>       or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>       Sunday.
>
>       So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>       before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>       back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>
>       I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>       onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>       gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>       and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>       cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>       slow dripping out.
>
>       Anything else I should know?

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 08:02:09 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:02:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E301A61.4040904@wi.net>

Way away from the house!  That's why you fill it completely to 
overflowing and rinse, several times for piece of mind.  Find the 
driveway of a neighbor you don't like and use it.  Chris, bring it down 
to my house.  I have 5 acres with nearest house 80 yards away.

Dave W.

On 7/26/2011 10:58 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
> Assuming these tanks are much like motorcycle tanks I've worked on DO NOT
> ATTEMPT TO WELD ON IT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS!!!  Even after being rinsed out
> numerous times, they are still ticking time bombs.  Frank used to boil his
> out on the barbie...  Only way I can think of to be certain there isn't the
> slightest vestige of gas left in them and even that is too dangerous for my
> blood!!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Bill L<pythias at pacifier.com>  wrote:
>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>      To make a short story L O N G
>>
>>
>>      Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>>      smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>>      neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>>      bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>>      washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>>      tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>>      of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>>      screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>>      completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>>      they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>>      as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>>      or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>>      Sunday.
>>
>>      So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>>      before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>>      back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>>
>>      I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>>      onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>>      gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>>      and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>>      cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>>      slow dripping out.
>>
>>      Anything else I should know?
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>   Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>
>>   '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>>
>>    "It's not fair!" said Tom darkly.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 08:07:06 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:07:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <001101cc4c18$114f2f70$33ed8e50$@rr.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
	<001101cc4c18$114f2f70$33ed8e50$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <4E301B8A.7010003@wi.net>

Great idea Jim!

That's why you fill it completely to overflowing and rinse, several 
times for piece of mind.  I did it in the backyard after rinsing 3 
times.   I really like Jim's idea of baking soda and vinegar.

  Find the driveway of a neighbor you don't like and use it.  Chris, 
bring it down to my house.  I have 5 acres with nearest house 80 yards 
away.   ;-)

Dave W.


Dave W.

On 7/26/2011 11:45 PM, Jim Seippel wrote:
> Solder fuel tanks, don't weld them. Do not use an open flame. I put baking
> soda and vinegar in a fuel tank after I  wash it out. It fills the tank with
> CO2. That leaves the tank with no oxygen to support combustion.
>
> When I was much younger, I brazed up a hole in a 2 month old XKE fuel tank.
> I used the baking soda and vinegar trick. Sure did clear out the shop. :-)
> Soldering is MUCH safer.
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:58 PM
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>
> Assuming these tanks are much like motorcycle tanks I've worked on DO NOT
> ATTEMPT TO WELD ON IT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS!!!  Even after being rinsed out
> numerous times, they are still ticking time bombs.  Frank used to boil his
> out on the barbie...  Only way I can think of to be certain there isn't the
> slightest vestige of gas left in them and even that is too dangerous for my
> blood!!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From clarici at verizon.net  Wed Jul 27 08:19:06 2011
From: clarici at verizon.net (Frankie Clarici 4th)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:19:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<001701cc4c0a$369f5f60$a3de1e20$@rr.com> <4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>
Message-ID: <ACF229AC-0BDF-40A4-BC94-F9D9DB936439@verizon.net>

Also get a big chunk of chain and drop it in the tank leaving some hanging
out. This allows you to shake the tank and the chain breaks up some rust and
gunk on the bottom of the tank.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I actually did this several years ago and called, who else, Frank.  He told
me to:
>
> 1.  drain gas
> 2.  rinse thoroughly
> 3.  fill about a 1/4 full will water
> 4.  fire up the barby (if gas-fired start with low heat and then increase
gradually)(Mine is charcoal but I used wood)
> 5.  allow to boil but do not boil off all the water as it may get too hot
and melt the "nylon" pick-up screen.
> 6.  wearing mits, slosh the remaining water around and dump the remaining
water and allow to dry.  The residual heat dried it quickly.  I then used a
propane torch and went around the outside to drive off any moisture lurking in
the tank and partition seams.
>
> Tank was clean and I could see where I needed to close some holes around the
filler neck.  I sandblasted and painted and installed.
>
> Send the kids to the park just in case.  ;-)
>
> Let me know if you want help.
>
> Dave W.
>
>
>
> On 7/26/2011 10:06 PM, Chris Manuel wrote:
>> I'm going to drop and boil my tank hopefully this week.  I only have a
>> gallon or 2 left in it and a lawn to mow so I'm OK there on where to put
the
>> contents.
>>
>> Additionally I also have a dirt area away from the house to take care of
the
>> flushing and boiling.
>>
>> I'll take photos if it's boring, videos if it isn't.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> 1966 MKIII 1275
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:48 PM
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>      To make a short story L O N G
>>
>>
>>      Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>>      smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>>      neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>>      bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>>      washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>>      tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>>      of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>>      screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>>      completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>>      they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>>      as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>>      or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>>      Sunday.
>>
>>      So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>>      before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>>      back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>>
>>      I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>>      onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>>      gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>>      and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>>      cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>>      slow dripping out.
>>
>>      Anything else I should know?
> _______________________________________________
>
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 08:23:53 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:23:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <ACF229AC-0BDF-40A4-BC94-F9D9DB936439@verizon.net>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<001701cc4c0a$369f5f60$a3de1e20$@rr.com> <4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>
	<ACF229AC-0BDF-40A4-BC94-F9D9DB936439@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4E301F79.80702@wi.net>

Thanks Frank...forgot one of the most important parts!

On 7/27/2011 9:19 AM, Frankie Clarici 4th wrote:
> Also get a big chunk of chain and drop it in the tank leaving some hanging out. This allows you to shake the tank and the chain breaks up some rust and gunk on the bottom of the tank.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Woerpel<dwoerpel at wi.net>  wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I actually did this several years ago and called, who else, Frank.  He told me to:
>>
>> 1.  drain gas
>> 2.  rinse thoroughly
>> 3.  fill about a 1/4 full will water
>> 4.  fire up the barby (if gas-fired start with low heat and then increase gradually)(Mine is charcoal but I used wood)
>> 5.  allow to boil but do not boil off all the water as it may get too hot and melt the "nylon" pick-up screen.
>> 6.  wearing mits, slosh the remaining water around and dump the remaining water and allow to dry.  The residual heat dried it quickly.  I then used a propane torch and went around the outside to drive off any moisture lurking in the tank and partition seams.
>>
>> Tank was clean and I could see where I needed to close some holes around the filler neck.  I sandblasted and painted and installed.
>>
>> Send the kids to the park just in case.  ;-)
>>
>> Let me know if you want help.
>>
>> Dave W.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2011 10:06 PM, Chris Manuel wrote:
>>> I'm going to drop and boil my tank hopefully this week.  I only have a
>>> gallon or 2 left in it and a lawn to mow so I'm OK there on where to put the
>>> contents.
>>>
>>> Additionally I also have a dirt area away from the house to take care of the
>>> flushing and boiling.
>>>
>>> I'll take photos if it's boring, videos if it isn't.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> 1966 MKIII 1275
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:48 PM
>>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>>>
>>> Hello Spridgets,
>>>
>>>       To make a short story L O N G
>>>
>>>
>>>       Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>>>       smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>>>       neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>>>       bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>>>       washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>>>       tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>>>       of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>>>       screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>>>       completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>>>       they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>>>       as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>>>       or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>>>       Sunday.
>>>
>>>       So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>>>       before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>>>       back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>>>
>>>       I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>>>       onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>>>       gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>>>       and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>>>       cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>>>       slow dripping out.
>>>
>>>       Anything else I should know?

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jul 27 08:27:47 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:27:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<001701cc4c0a$369f5f60$a3de1e20$@rr.com> <4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1311776867.618.YahooMailRC@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Ditto.

In my case, I did "send the kids to park just in case", but invited my neighbor 
over.

jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 9:55:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?

Chris,

I actually did this several years ago and called, who else, Frank.  He 
told me to:

1.  drain gas
2.  rinse thoroughly
3.  fill about a 1/4 full will water
4.  fire up the barby (if gas-fired start with low heat and then 
increase gradually)(Mine is charcoal but I used wood)
5.  allow to boil but do not boil off all the water as it may get too 
hot and melt the "nylon" pick-up screen.
6.  wearing mits, slosh the remaining water around and dump the 
remaining water and allow to dry.  The residual heat dried it quickly.  
I then used a propane torch and went around the outside to drive off any 
moisture lurking in the tank and partition seams.

Tank was clean and I could see where I needed to close some holes around 
the filler neck.  I sandblasted and painted and installed.

Send the kids to the park just in case.  ;-)

From montpaul at msn.com  Wed Jul 27 08:36:00 2011
From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:36:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <4E301B8A.7010003@wi.net>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>,
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<001101cc4c18$114f2f70$33ed8e50$@rr.com>, <4E301B8A.7010003@wi.net>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W171E1331A8225E9D0BEA24D5350@phx.gbl>

I will not recommend this, but many years ago I have seen "old masters" weld
gas tanks with an exhaust hose inserted into the tank from a  running engine.
The exhaust forced the gas fumes out of the tank. Really. DON'T TRY IT



> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:07:06 -0500
> From: dwoerpel at wi.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>
> Great idea Jim!
>
> That's why you fill it completely to overflowing and rinse, several
> times for piece of mind. I did it in the backyard after rinsing 3
> times. I really like Jim's idea of baking soda and vinegar.
>
> Find the driveway of a neighbor you don't like and use it. Chris,
> bring it down to my house. I have 5 acres with nearest house 80 yards
> away. ;-)
>
> Dave W.
>
>
> Dave W.
>
> On 7/26/2011 11:45 PM, Jim Seippel wrote:
> > Solder fuel tanks, don't weld them. Do not use an open flame. I put
baking
> > soda and vinegar in a fuel tank after I wash it out. It fills the tank
with
> > CO2. That leaves the tank with no oxygen to support combustion.
> >
> > When I was much younger, I brazed up a hole in a 2 month old XKE fuel
tank.
> > I used the baking soda and vinegar trick. Sure did clear out the shop.
:-)
> > Soldering is MUCH safer.
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:58 PM
> > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
> >
> > Assuming these tanks are much like motorcycle tanks I've worked on DO NOT
> > ATTEMPT TO WELD ON IT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS!!! Even after being rinsed out
> > numerous times, they are still ticking time bombs. Frank used to boil his
> > out on the barbie... Only way I can think of to be certain there isn't
the
> > slightest vestige of gas left in them and even that is too dangerous for
my
> > blood!!
> >
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 08:37:49 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:37:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com><001701cc4c0a$369f5f60$a3de1e20$@rr.com>
	<4E3018BB.4030605@wi.net>
Message-ID: <DDB46FDC95A74387ADD5FA3A3A59FB44@HomePC>

Dave, did Terri tell you to make sure your life insurance premiums were 
current before she would let you do it?




-----Original Message----- 
From: Woerpel
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:55 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?

Chris,

I actually did this several years ago and called, who else, Frank.  He
told me to:

1.  drain gas
2.  rinse thoroughly
3.  fill about a 1/4 full will water
4.  fire up the barby (if gas-fired start with low heat and then
increase gradually)(Mine is charcoal but I used wood)
5.  allow to boil but do not boil off all the water as it may get too
hot and melt the "nylon" pick-up screen.
6.  wearing mits, slosh the remaining water around and dump the
remaining water and allow to dry.  The residual heat dried it quickly.
I then used a propane torch and went around the outside to drive off any
moisture lurking in the tank and partition seams.

Tank was clean and I could see where I needed to close some holes around
the filler neck.  I sandblasted and painted and installed.

Send the kids to the park just in case.  ;-)

Let me know if you want help.

Dave W.



On 7/26/2011 10:06 PM, Chris Manuel wrote:
> I'm going to drop and boil my tank hopefully this week.  I only have a
> gallon or 2 left in it and a lawn to mow so I'm OK there on where to put 
> the
> contents.
>
> Additionally I also have a dirt area away from the house to take care of 
> the
> flushing and boiling.
>
> I'll take photos if it's boring, videos if it isn't.
>
> Chris
>
> 1966 MKIII 1275
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:48 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>       To make a short story L O N G
>
>
>       Ever since I came home from Seattle with the red thing i've been
>       smelling gas in the garage. Today after coming home from the
>       neurosurgeon, I layed down and looked at the gas tank. When I
>       bought the car it had (has) a sheet metal screw with a rubber
>       washer screwed into the tank on the right side rear bottom of the
>       tank. Well, it finally started leaking there so I cut a new piece
>       of rubber from a hose, coated the thing with TFE and put the
>       screw back in. It slowed the leak but hasn't stopped it
>       completely. I've called the local radiator shop and they say that
>       they will seal "some" tanks, but only if they are worth saving,
>       as they don't do things they can't guarantee. I have a full tank
>       or rather had a full tank of gas when I put the car in the garage
>       Sunday.
>
>       So the question is..... are there parts I should have on hand
>       before I pull the tank, or will all the old stuff work to put it
>       back together, AND if I need parts whats the best source?
>
>       I have to wait until i've driven the car some more because I
>       onlyh have the capacity to store THREE gallons of siphoned
>       gasoline, so I won't be undertaking this until AFTER my surgery,
>       and perhaps not until after Labor Day, depending upon how well my
>       cobbled seal works and if I can make it to the ABFM-PDX with fuel
>       slow dripping out.
>
>       Anything else I should know?
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 08:38:19 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:38:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W171E1331A8225E9D0BEA24D5350@phx.gbl>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>,
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<001101cc4c18$114f2f70$33ed8e50$@rr.com>, <4E301B8A.7010003@wi.net>
	<SNT128-W171E1331A8225E9D0BEA24D5350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E3022DB.1070202@wi.net>

I agree.  You do not want to weld!
Dave W.

On 7/27/2011 9:36 AM, PAUL SHERMAN wrote:
> *_I will not recommend this_*, but many years ago I have seen "old 
> masters" weld gas tanks with an exhaust hose inserted into the tank 
> from a  running engine. The exhaust forced the gas fumes out of the 
> tank. Really. DON'T TRY IT
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:07:06 -0500
> > From: dwoerpel at wi.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
> >
> > Great idea Jim!
> >
> > That's why you fill it completely to overflowing and rinse, several
> > times for piece of mind. I did it in the backyard after rinsing 3
> > times. I really like Jim's idea of baking soda and vinegar.
> >
> > Find the driveway of a neighbor you don't like and use it. Chris,
> > bring it down to my house. I have 5 acres with nearest house 80 yards
> > away. ;-)
> >
> > Dave W.
> >
> >
> > Dave W.
> >
> > On 7/26/2011 11:45 PM, Jim Seippel wrote:
> > > Solder fuel tanks, don't weld them. Do not use an open flame. I 
> put baking
> > > soda and vinegar in a fuel tank after I wash it out. It fills the 
> tank with
> > > CO2. That leaves the tank with no oxygen to support combustion.
> > >
> > > When I was much younger, I brazed up a hole in a 2 month old XKE 
> fuel tank.
> > > I used the baking soda and vinegar trick. Sure did clear out the 
> shop. :-)
> > > Soldering is MUCH safer.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:58 PM
> > > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
> > >
> > > Assuming these tanks are much like motorcycle tanks I've worked on 
> DO NOT
> > > ATTEMPT TO WELD ON IT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS!!! Even after being 
> rinsed out
> > > numerous times, they are still ticking time bombs. Frank used to 
> boil his
> > > out on the barbie... Only way I can think of to be certain there 
> isn't the
> > > slightest vestige of gas left in them and even that is too 
> dangerous for my
> > > blood!!
> > >
> > > Cheers!!
> > > Jim
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jul 27 08:44:53 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:44:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <4E301B8A.7010003@wi.net>
Message-ID: <20110727144453.69US3.50916.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>

Sounds like a job for The Mythbusters.

My father has owned a garage for over 50 years and while I worked there we did weld gas tanks.  I don't remember the precautions we took but he knew to be careful and he knew how to do it.


>   Find the driveway of a neighbor you don't like and use it.  Chris, 
> bring it down to my house.  I have 5 acres with nearest house 80 yards 
> away.   ;-)

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jul 27 08:39:40 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:39:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net>
Message-ID: <159EBB679F2F4FD9BF95386994868C97@Home>

Good grief, Woerpel!   Don't get us off on String Theory again.  Haven't you 
had enough?

Michael Rowe 

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Jul 27 09:26:21 2011
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:26:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <20110727144453.69US3.50916.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
References: <4E301B8A.7010003@wi.net>
	<20110727144453.69US3.50916.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
Message-ID: <CAGe=UP6jdtt_0=BPM0okCEKU1iVg5cawVVsM_-OeYbYUbMrb8w@mail.gmail.com>

Here is what I did:
1.  Put some beer on ice and position the lawn chair.
2.  Go get the tractor.
3.  Jack up the rear end to get one wheel off the ground.
4.  Fill the gas tank with water, some milkstone acid wash, and rocks.
5.  Strap it to the tractor wheel.
6.  Start the tractor.
7.  Grab a beer or 3 and watch it go around for about 30 minutes.  Then
drain it and let it dry.
8.  Fill the holes around the neck with JB weld.
9.  Drink some more beer while you wait for the JB weld to set.

Heard


On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:44 AM, <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a job for The Mythbusters.
>
> My father has owned a garage for over 50 years and while I worked there we
> did weld gas tanks.  I don't remember the precautions we took but he knew to
> be careful and he knew how to do it.
>
>
> >   Find the driveway of a neighbor you don't like and use it.  Chris,
> > bring it down to my house.  I have 5 acres with nearest house 80 yards
> > away.   ;-)
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-- 
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jul 27 09:42:43 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:42:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W171E1331A8225E9D0BEA24D5350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20110727154243.6RYC4.51329.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>

This falls under the category of YMMV, but if you know about engines you know that gasoline vapors and oxygen will only combust when they are close the the proper mixture of one to the other.  (Which of course is why carburetor tuning is so critical to an engine's performance.)  So too much oxygen or not enough oxygen, and no combustion.  That's not to say that you won't be the lucky person whose tank hits the mixture just right.


> I will not recommend this, but many years ago I have seen "old masters" weld
> gas tanks with an exhaust hose inserted into the tank from a  running engine.
> The exhaust forced the gas fumes out of the tank. Really. DON'T TRY IT

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 10:05:18 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:05:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <20110727154243.6RYC4.51329.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
References: <SNT128-W171E1331A8225E9D0BEA24D5350@phx.gbl>
	<20110727154243.6RYC4.51329.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hxdJ-FJzKfk2sWfu4X_NS40C2E-VyPfOtbJLg8ZjDTbGw@mail.gmail.com>

> This falls under the category of YMMV, but if you know about engines you
know that gasoline vapors and oxygen will only combust when they are close the
the proper mixture of one to the other.  (Which of course is why carburetor
tuning is so critical to an engine's performance.)  So too much oxygen or not
enough oxygen, and no combustion.  That's not to say that you won't be the
lucky person whose tank hits the mixture just right.

"Close" is a relative term. There are a number of factors that mandate
the ideal stoichiometric ratio of air to fuel in an internal
combustion gasoline engine. The ability to make an air/gasoline
mixture ignite rapidly (not a true explosion, I understand), OTOH, is
a lot less stringent. On a related topic, I recall in my lost youth
seeing people remove dents from the gas tanks of their poor abused
Jeeps by pulling the tank, dumping out the gas, putting back a very
small amount, leaving in the sun for a short period, then tossing a
match at the filler tube. Very dramatic and effective results, but not
for the faint of heart.
David L

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jul 27 10:07:58 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:07:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CAGe=UP6jdtt_0=BPM0okCEKU1iVg5cawVVsM_-OeYbYUbMrb8w@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <4E301B8A.7010003@wi.net>
	<20110727144453.69US3.50916.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
	<CAGe=UP6jdtt_0=BPM0okCEKU1iVg5cawVVsM_-OeYbYUbMrb8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201107270907682.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I think a new tank would be cheaper.......

But I like your thinkin'
         Peter
==
At 10:26 AM 7/27/2011, Heard Saxon wrote:
>Here is what I did:
>1.  Put some beer on ice and position the lawn chair.
>2.  Go get the tractor.
>3.  Jack up the rear end to get one wheel off the ground.
>4.  Fill the gas tank with water, some milkstone acid wash, and rocks.
>5.  Strap it to the tractor wheel.
>6.  Start the tractor.
>7.  Grab a beer or 3 and watch it go around for about 30 minutes.  Then
>drain it and let it dry.
>8.  Fill the holes around the neck with JB weld.
>9.  Drink some more beer while you wait for the JB weld to set.
>
>Heard

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Wed Jul 27 10:08:35 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:08:35 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Silverstone classic
Message-ID: <CAN4UhU+D-SZ5g=kNK5huttmm_kuBdyyoBEU9v4s0fV59BnfxEA@mail.gmail.com>

This was the largest gathering of classic cars in the world , truly.

 Not only racing millions of pounds (billions of dollars) worth of
remarkable cars , the value of the cars on show by the car clubs was
phenomenal too.   There were around 40 Frogeyes sprites and midgets -
possibly more if you include the frogeyes on the Austin Healey club patch.

And we got to drive the new Grand Prix track too , in company with all
manner of exotica. And for the first time in weeks the sun shone as my burnt
face will testify .
  I will download some photos and video when I have had time to sort them
(about 500 ).............. meanwhile here is a short report
*http://tinyurl.com/3elylgp*
I know the event was filmed  ( you may have seen the spectacular crash of a
celebrity football star where he rolled a Morgan 3 times in the celebrity
charity race,) it will be on youtube by now. This is a link to Top Gear
site  link .....or Google '  Blisset Morgan-crash '
*http://tinyurl.com/3w4qwoc*

*Alan warwick UK*

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jul 27 10:22:49 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:22:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <159EBB679F2F4FD9BF95386994868C97@Home>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com><4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net>
	<159EBB679F2F4FD9BF95386994868C97@Home>
Message-ID: <E83AC6C8C8CD412B85F40FBA34A2E23D@spider>

Ok then, Chaos Theory.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

=======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:40 AM
To: Woerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list

Good grief, Woerpel!   Don't get us off on String Theory again.  Haven't you

had enough?

Michael Rowe 
_______________________________________________

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jul 27 10:23:27 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:23:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <201107271124.p6RBOi7Y003249@mail.usimperio.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<201107271124.p6RBOi7Y003249@mail.usimperio.com>
Message-ID: <EE43CC03A087478EBB05E0CDBDC59F67@Home>

> Siphon it out and pour it into another car, lawnmower, truck, neighbors 
> car, over the cat. There is always someplace to get rid of extra gas.

How many gallons per cat?

Michael Rowe 

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jul 27 10:25:03 2011
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:25:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hxdJ-FJzKfk2sWfu4X_NS40C2E-VyPfOtbJLg8ZjDTbGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110727162503.J74DP.3773.root@cdptpa-web14-z02>

In my years of working on cars there have been many instances where I wished the requirements were less stringent.

I also remember an episode of mythbusters where they could not get a building to explode in the presence of an open flame and a natural gas leak, because the mixture of air to natural gas was not right.

 
> "Close" is a relative term. There are a number of factors that mandate
> the ideal stoichiometric ratio of air to fuel in an internal
> combustion gasoline engine. The ability to make an air/gasoline
> mixture ignite rapidly

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Wed Jul 27 10:33:23 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:33:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CACJx3hxdJ-FJzKfk2sWfu4X_NS40C2E-VyPfOtbJLg8ZjDTbGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT128-W171E1331A8225E9D0BEA24D5350@phx.gbl>
	<20110727154243.6RYC4.51329.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
	<CACJx3hxdJ-FJzKfk2sWfu4X_NS40C2E-VyPfOtbJLg8ZjDTbGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E303DD3.1050208@croakingfrog.net>

kinda like when we'd go fishing at the old golf course pond, catch a
carp, help it swallow an M-80 and toss it back in the pond.

PHRUMP!

but I digress ....

:) Chap


On 7/27/2011 12:05 PM, David Lieb wrote:
>> This falls under the category of YMMV, but if you know about engines you
> know that gasoline vapors and oxygen will only combust when they are close the
> the proper mixture of one to the other.  (Which of course is why carburetor
> tuning is so critical to an engine's performance.)  So too much oxygen or not
> enough oxygen, and no combustion.  That's not to say that you won't be the
> lucky person whose tank hits the mixture just right.
>
> "Close" is a relative term. There are a number of factors that mandate
> the ideal stoichiometric ratio of air to fuel in an internal
> combustion gasoline engine. The ability to make an air/gasoline
> mixture ignite rapidly (not a true explosion, I understand), OTOH, is
> a lot less stringent. On a related topic, I recall in my lost youth
> seeing people remove dents from the gas tanks of their poor abused
> Jeeps by pulling the tank, dumping out the gas, putting back a very
> small amount, leaving in the sun for a short period, then tossing a
> match at the filler tube. Very dramatic and effective results, but not
> for the faint of heart.
> David L
> _______________________________________________
>
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From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 10:37:51 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:37:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <2bb54.18f34066.3b610769@aol.com>
References: <2bb54.18f34066.3b610769@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1E7EF0D-7656-42FA-BD23-60453AC8D31A@gmail.com>

Some years ago the fuel pickup tube in the tank broke off so I only  
had use of the upper half of the tak's capacity.  I took it in to Gas  
Tank Renu
http://gastankrenu.com/

havent had any problems since, although there does seem to be a very  
slight leak around the drain plug at teh bottom.  I may need to  
replace a oring or gasket or something.  No complaints otherwise and  
its guaranteed for life.

On Jul 27, 2011 AD, at 1:17 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> The price of a brand new tank?
>
>
> In a message dated 27/07/2011 02:53:03 GMT Daylight Time,
> pythias at pacifier.com writes:
>
> Anything  else I should know?
> _______________________________________________

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 10:53:51 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:53:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <20110727154243.6RYC4.51329.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
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	<20110727154243.6RYC4.51329.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
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I am here to tell you that the correct combination CAN be found- just as I was
soldering a penny over a hole in a Jeep gas tank! Fortunately I had the tank
almost full of water and it just went "POOF" but did scare the heck out of
me!!
BillM

> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:42:43 -0400
> From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>
> This falls under the category of YMMV, but if you know about engines you
know that gasoline vapors and oxygen will only combust when they are close the
the proper mixture of one to the other.  (Which of course is why carburetor
tuning is so critical to an engine's performance.)  So too much oxygen or not
enough oxygen, and no combustion.  That's not to say that you won't be the
lucky person whose tank hits the mixture just right.
>
>
> > I will not recommend this, but many years ago I have seen "old masters"
weld
> > gas tanks with an exhaust hose inserted into the tank from a  running
engine.
> > The exhaust forced the gas fumes out of the tank. Really. DON'T TRY IT
> _______________________________________________
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 10:58:16 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:58:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <20110727162503.J74DP.3773.root@cdptpa-web14-z02>
References: <20110727162503.J74DP.3773.root@cdptpa-web14-z02>
Message-ID: <9D605F942FBC423BAA1606AD04B931BB@HomePC>

I want a job on Mythbusters.  Those guys have a blast at work.

Though, it seems not that time.




-----Original Message----- 
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:25 AM
Cc: Sprite Site
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?

In my years of working on cars there have been many instances where I wished 
the requirements were less stringent.

I also remember an episode of mythbusters where they could not get a 
building to explode in the presence of an open flame and a natural gas leak, 
because the mixture of air to natural gas was not right.


> "Close" is a relative term. There are a number of factors that mandate
> the ideal stoichiometric ratio of air to fuel in an internal
> combustion gasoline engine. The ability to make an air/gasoline
> mixture ignite rapidly
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From brucehamper at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 11:00:04 2011
From: brucehamper at gmail.com (Bruce Hamper)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:00:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Midget50 Event!
Message-ID: <CAF8rvQH6F4Z5p-HOakHrJdjSmMWPVmmf5gRbumxFeCco4ccu-A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all the voluteers and Presidents for a great Midget 50 event!  I
finally got signed up for the spridgets list and can see what I've been
missing.  This is the best diversion I've come accross in a long time!  I
hope I can add a few useful comments now and then.  The blue 69 Sprite got
me back home; the only mishap being a flat tire in Chicago.  Friday morning
I missed the rain in Wisconsin, but got caught in a downpour on Chicago's
north side.  The rear driverside tire decided to go flat at the California
and Diversey exit in North city.  It's amazing how far you can travel at 50
mph with a flat tire. I put the spare on in the Popeye's chicken parking
lot.  Got a visit from Chicago's uniformed men in blue, but once they
realized that I wasn't stealing the tires they let me go.  Changing a tire
is a spectator sport in Chicago - got lots of cheer's.
1000 miles - lots of driving fun and home at last.  Wish it was as cool as
Wisconsin; St. Louis is HOT.
Bruce Hamper
69 AH Sprite
59 AH Bugeye (in boxes)

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 11:30:25 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:30:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club Website
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvSs77iNVxG9CgpPZVg1Bwojw-PRgbFeak9X6yyro1RsEA@mail.gmail.com>

The Sprite-Midget Club website has been "pruned"  and revamped a bit.  I
didn't make any radical changes (some of us can't handle such things), but I
did try to make it easier to find information.  In the coming days I'll be
adding more info/links about the Midget 50th celebration that just wrapped
up.  In particular, I'll have information on ordering the DVD.

If you have anything to contribute, photo links, stories, videos, etc.
please let me know and I'll try to fit it into a logical place within the
site.

Same URL, http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org ... different color.

Thanks,
Trevor Jessie

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 12:25:38 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:25:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <EE43CC03A087478EBB05E0CDBDC59F67@Home>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<201107271124.p6RBOi7Y003249@mail.usimperio.com>
	<EE43CC03A087478EBB05E0CDBDC59F67@Home>
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Hence the acronym "YMMV"....   ;-)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Siphon it out and pour it into another car, lawnmower, truck, neighbors
>> car, over the cat. There is always someplace to get rid of extra gas.
>>
>
> How many gallons per cat?
>
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Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Jul 27 12:28:07 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:28:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <1868947544.700038.1311761552507.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <690669035.632041.1311791287355.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Kate,

Nothing shameless about it... especially when folks are looking for work..

But... What if I don't want to work in a field <G>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> While this may seem a shameless promotion of my town, everything is
> booming. All the mines are operating at full capacity, another huge
> strike has been discovered about 50 miles west.
> 
> What it boils down to is, if you can breath and pass a drug test,
> there is a job waiting for you in almost any field.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 12:35:19 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:35:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W27B363EE4FAF382F4295C8CA350@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT128-W171E1331A8225E9D0BEA24D5350@phx.gbl>
	<20110727154243.6RYC4.51329.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
	<SNT123-W27B363EE4FAF382F4295C8CA350@phx.gbl>
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Back in the 60s a Brit friend lost fingers and an eye working on a Royal
Enfield tank that was supposed to be absolutely clean and had been sitting
on a shelf open for years. As my
New York Jewish buddies would say, "Don't never trust nobody!!"

In the past, I've cleaned out motorcycle tanks by filling them with a little
kerosene and about a pint of hex nuts and short lengths of chain, wrapping
them in foam and putting them into a cement mixer for about 8 hours. Then
line them with POR15 and give them to the painter.

There is a guy in Ontario, Canada who does motorcycle tanks as a business.
His procedure is to open them up along the seams with a cut off wheel under
water, clean them out by washing and scrubbing with various washing
chemicals ending with soap and water. He then fixes the dents, welds them
back together, lines them with POR15 and paints them. They are good pretty
much for life.

If I had a tractor wheel to use, I'd finish up by lining with POR15. The
tank should be good for life after that.  At least for my life   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I am here to tell you that the correct combination CAN be found- just as I
> was
> soldering a penny over a hole in a Jeep gas tank! Fortunately I had the
> tank
> almost full of water and it just went "POOF" but did scare the heck out of
> me!!
> BillM
>
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:42:43 -0400
> > From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
> >
> > This falls under the category of YMMV, but if you know about engines you
> know that gasoline vapors and oxygen will only combust when they are close
> the
> the proper mixture of one to the other.  (Which of course is why carburetor
> tuning is so critical to an engine's performance.)  So too much oxygen or
> not
> enough oxygen, and no combustion.  That's not to say that you won't be the
> lucky person whose tank hits the mixture just right.
> >
> >
> > > I will not recommend this, but many years ago I have seen "old masters"
> weld
> > > gas tanks with an exhaust hose inserted into the tank from a  running
> engine.
> > > The exhaust forced the gas fumes out of the tank. Really. DON'T TRY IT
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 12:37:10 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:37:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <E83AC6C8C8CD412B85F40FBA34A2E23D@spider>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net> <159EBB679F2F4FD9BF95386994868C97@Home>
	<E83AC6C8C8CD412B85F40FBA34A2E23D@spider>
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Please.  I'm exhausted from trying to get the same solution out of repeated
runs of the Mandelbrot Equations.....

Cheers!
Ed Lorenz

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:22 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Ok then, Chaos Theory.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
>
> =======================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:40 AM
> To: Woerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list
>
> Good grief, Woerpel!   Don't get us off on String Theory again.  Haven't
> you
>
> had enough?
>
> Michael Rowe
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Jim Johnson
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jul 27 12:41:19 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:41:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1311782640.64290.YahooMailClassic@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com>
	<1311782640.64290.YahooMailClassic@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1473996885.20110727114119@pacifier.com>

Hello Bob,

     Here's the update..

     The tank is drained. I used the hole that the #8 screw was in,
     not a syphon, not the fuel pump.

     I jacked up the front of the car so that it sloped to the rear,
     and jacked up the right side so that the hole in the back corner
     was the low spot. The PERMATEX package says to use BRAKE-CLEAN to
     remove all contamination around the hole. I sprayed it on, wiped
     it off, then used emery paper to get down to CLEAN metal. Another
     shot of BRAKE-CLEAN just to be sure was applied. I took off the
     gas cap and now I'm waiting for ALL the moiture to stop weeping
     around the hole. If it takes a day, so be it, but that's where I
     am.

     Now the question becomes.... should I go ahead and drop the tank
     a little to try to find the wire to the sending unit so I can
     make my gas gauge work?   What's the procedure? Loosen the hose
     clamps in the trunk, loosen the six nuts on the tank? Is that
     it?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

     * "I'm Irish," said Tom wryly.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 27 12:54:26 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:54:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <1411449590.707174.1311792470989.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <966384134.707262.1311792866273.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Then don't. Most people out in the fields are herding cattle on horseback. Work in a casino and take home $1000 in tips every night. We have numerous industries around here, mostly dealing with parts for heavy equipment. Construction is running wild, with new businesses coming in and housing for potential new residents. The home repair people have weeks long waiting lists, and finding someone to build or repair a fence is impossible. They just don't answer their phones. We have one HONEST auto repair shop in town. He is too busy to take on new clients, except on referral.

Kate




----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:28:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list

Kate,

Nothing shameless about it... especially when folks are looking for work..

But... What if I don't want to work in a field <G>

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jul 27 12:55:17 2011
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:55:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuobCPTL1AV=8KoGar_YyNBkXonfNv4911W5xRXGNfWiVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA55AD25.31FE0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

New tanks are under $200, complete with new sending units, mounting
hardware, and rubber strips. They're good quality Canadian too.
BZ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 12:58:13 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:58:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <CA55AD25.31FE0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <CAJgjnuobCPTL1AV=8KoGar_YyNBkXonfNv4911W5xRXGNfWiVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA55AD25.31FE0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnurL2_C5Q0EWienpcOT3NT1Tr8+rV=0m15+ZHWBNZ1YQNg@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah.  But where's the fun in that?  ;-)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> New tanks are under $200, complete with new sending units, mounting
> hardware, and rubber strips. They're good quality Canadian too.
> BZ
>

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 13:17:34 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:17:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1473996885.20110727114119@pacifier.com>
References: <1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com>
	<1311782640.64290.YahooMailClassic@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1473996885.20110727114119@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqTY+hp-A9HAovs8Xe76ib7z6pXCDfTwsj=3CgjdS6xtw@mail.gmail.com>

On my MKIII Midget I just undo the filler tube and fuel line, then undo the
bolts around the edge of the tank and it will fall out.  Of course, mine
doesn't have straps....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Bob,
>
>     Here's the update..
>
>     The tank is drained. I used the hole that the #8 screw was in,
>     not a syphon, not the fuel pump.
>
>     I jacked up the front of the car so that it sloped to the rear,
>     and jacked up the right side so that the hole in the back corner
>     was the low spot. The PERMATEX package says to use BRAKE-CLEAN to
>     remove all contamination around the hole. I sprayed it on, wiped
>     it off, then used emery paper to get down to CLEAN metal. Another
>     shot of BRAKE-CLEAN just to be sure was applied. I took off the
>     gas cap and now I'm waiting for ALL the moiture to stop weeping
>     around the hole. If it takes a day, so be it, but that's where I
>     am.
>
>     Now the question becomes.... should I go ahead and drop the tank
>     a little to try to find the wire to the sending unit so I can
>     make my gas gauge work?   What's the procedure? Loosen the hose
>     clamps in the trunk, loosen the six nuts on the tank? Is that
>     it?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>     * "I'm Irish," said Tom wryly.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Jul 27 13:53:24 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:53:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midgetclub website
Message-ID: <74E70471-5C7A-4420-8FCB-0799A3B35907@chartermi.net>

Trevor,

The update to the website looks great!

Everybody else,

Trevor has loaded a bunch of photos from the 50th Midget Celebration.  Imagine
my surprise when I looked at the photos from the car show and my '79 Party
Midget is the first one shown.  LOL

Rick

From rich_ball at mindspring.com  Wed Jul 27 14:03:18 2011
From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:03:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
References: <1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com><1311782640.64290.YahooMailClassic@web37606.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1473996885.20110727114119@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnuqTY+hp-A9HAovs8Xe76ib7z6pXCDfTwsj=3CgjdS6xtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8FBAB0DD1E47400C88B251C3B6A3ABDB@psych.washington.edu>

You may or may not want to disconnect the feed to the fuel pump also.  It 
will only take you a few minutes to fix that fuel gauge connection.  Didn't 
you say that was the LAST problem to fix on you Sprite?

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 14:27:30 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:27:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>

would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
or would it be ...

-Trevor

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Jul 27 14:43:24 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:43:24 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
References: <20110727144453.69US3.50916.root@cdptpa-web20-z01>
Message-ID: <9871AC146D4F4FA481B736A41DEEC740@user8634b3d69b>

I knew a guy who was a Rolls-Royce apprentice many years ago.  His flat 
mate, also apprenticed to Rolls-Royce, decided to weld up a gas tank.  He 
boiled it a couple of times, he brim filled it with water, he died when it 
exploded.

Everybody knows a way to do it or how the chap next door did it.  I believe 
it was Darwin who promulgated the self selection gene pool system of death 
and that is still going strong.

It's a bit like leaving the chuck key in the lathe.  Some things you do not 
do.  (But I did!)

Just my 2 cents worth.

Guy R Day 

From trish.finn at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 14:43:26 2011
From: trish.finn at gmail.com (Trish Finn)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midgetclub website
In-Reply-To: <74E70471-5C7A-4420-8FCB-0799A3B35907@chartermi.net>
References: <74E70471-5C7A-4420-8FCB-0799A3B35907@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <CAMwGB7w=zyX7iMwdQnOjbKmvKHgwEFUrVhAv=FWOzgBp_GCiow@mail.gmail.com>

and he didn't delete my Miata out. Thanks Trevor

trish


> Trevor has loaded a bunch of photos from the 50th Midget Celebration.
>  Imagine
> my surprise when I looked at the photos from the car show and my '79 Party
> Midget is the first one shown.  LOL
>
> Rick
> _______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jul 27 14:48:56 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:48:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
In-Reply-To: <075d01cc4a4c$16835f20$438a1d60$@rr.com>
References: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>
	<075d01cc4a4c$16835f20$438a1d60$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <0796D8DB455043DAA5728572FAA42C62@spider>

Got the king pin fulcrum pin out. 
I tried everything suggested, thank you. Ended up drilling it out.
...bill in corvallis 
http://www.97330.com/Disassembly_axle_hub_assembly.html
========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Seippel [mailto:aseippel at austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:53 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal

I consider the fulcrum pin as a disposable part. Anytime I disassemble the
swivel pin, I always have new fulcrum pins available. That ensures that the
pin will come out without being damaged. I have used the following tools
successfully:

Hammer
Hammer with a punch
Battery terminal puller
Torch to swell the base of the swivel pin surrounding the fulcrum pin

When I order replacement parts, I usually order several extras.  :-)
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal

I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin (called
a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
out? (1979 MG Midget.)   .bill in corvallis 
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Wed Jul 27 14:53:51 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:53:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] High Country Beerfest - LBC trip?
Message-ID: <312969123-1311800032-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1611962558-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

Hey Spridgeteers, a quick off topic note. I am involved in the High Country Beerfest which is September 3rd from 3-7 in Boone, NC. It is a fun event with lots of local brews. We have it outside if possible, with under 2000 there, including staff. The event is at a convention center with rooms, and we have several options for a safe ride home (hotel). 
If you are in the area, and would like a nice cheap weekend getaway, it's a good option. If you do come, look for me at the T shirt booth! www.hcbeerfest.com Shameless promotion over.
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jul 27 15:00:23 2011
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:00:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
Message-ID: <9c553.46cdd283.3b61d667@aol.com>

Speak for yourself Kate!  I bet I wouldn't get a fraction of  that....
 
Me
 
 
In a message dated 27/07/2011 20:12:36 GMT Daylight Time,  
kgb at frontiernet.net writes:

Work in  a casino and take home $1000 in tips every night.

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 15:06:53 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:06:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <369EC9D4-AED9-4CE4-9F86-8439BA047A7F@gmail.com>

Well, next year is the 50th birthday of the Triumph Spitfire.  Maybe  
we should crash their party?  Bring the rivalry back?  See how our  
cars fare against theirs in an autocross?

-seth
On Jul 27, 2011 AD, at 3:27 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote:

> would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
> or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
> or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
> or would it be ...
>
> -Trevor

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Jul 27 15:13:27 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:13:27 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Midget50 Event!
References: <CAF8rvQH6F4Z5p-HOakHrJdjSmMWPVmmf5gRbumxFeCco4ccu-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FD624D94FEB473EB7AF883783FEE929@user8634b3d69b>

Welcome to this world of fun.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Hamper" <>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:00 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Midget50 Event!


> Thanks to all the voluteers and Presidents for a great Midget 50 event!  I
> finally got signed up for the spridgets list and can see what I've been
> missing.  This is the best diversion I've come accross in a long time!  I
> hope I can add a few useful comments now and then.  The blue 69 Sprite got
> me back home; the only mishap being a flat tire in Chicago.  Friday 
> morning
> I missed the rain in Wisconsin, but got caught in a downpour on Chicago's
> north side.  The rear driverside tire decided to go flat at the California
> and Diversey exit in North city.  It's amazing how far you can travel at 
> 50
> mph with a flat tire. I put the spare on in the Popeye's chicken parking
> lot.  Got a visit from Chicago's uniformed men in blue, but once they
> realized that I wasn't stealing the tires they let me go.  Changing a tire
> is a spectator sport in Chicago - got lots of cheer's.
> 1000 miles - lots of driving fun and home at last.  Wish it was as cool as
> Wisconsin; St. Louis is HOT.
> Bruce Hamper
> 69 AH Sprite
> 59 AH Bugeye (in boxes)
> _______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 15:16:31 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:16:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5590607662891496886@unknownmsgid>

> would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
> or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
> or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
> or would it be ...

And then we could celebrate roll-up windows, then the 1275, then the
demise of the Sprite, then the 1500, then the end of the Spridget...
David L

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 15:23:56 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:23:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <5590607662891496886@unknownmsgid>
References: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5590607662891496886@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvRP1TUL-0gSYUhoSt9dDvJTdT+9PbTXzuVWFRf8G8qh6A@mail.gmail.com>

See... I'm showing my ignorance.  I thought roll-up windows and
semi-elliptical springs both hit in 1964.
-Trevor

PS. but yes 1967 was 1275, 1970 demise of Sprite, 1973...errr ... 1975
rubber bumper, 1979 ... end of the spridget.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
> > or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
> > or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
> > or would it be ...
>
> And then we could celebrate roll-up windows, then the 1275, then the
> demise of the Sprite, then the 1500, then the end of the Spridget...
> David L

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 15:39:35 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:39:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midgetclub website
In-Reply-To: <74E70471-5C7A-4420-8FCB-0799A3B35907@chartermi.net>
References: <74E70471-5C7A-4420-8FCB-0799A3B35907@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <A4D0E0F4-1C70-4C96-999B-3B646800EC26@gmail.com>

I was wondering how I can get ahold of some of the autocross  
pictures.  Namely the ones that feature my car.
On Jul 27, 2011 AD, at 2:53 PM, Rick Fisk wrote:

> Trevor,
>
> The update to the website looks great!
>
> Everybody else,
>
> Trevor has loaded a bunch of photos from the 50th Midget  
> Celebration.  Imagine
> my surprise when I looked at the photos from the car show and my '79  
> Party
> Midget is the first one shown.  LOL
>
> Rick
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 15:41:26 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High Country Beerfest - LBC trip?
In-Reply-To: <312969123-1311800032-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1611962558-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <312969123-1311800032-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1611962558-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CACJx3hw9ijzzAR7Sg_hoNojS7yJk-84bYbwd-HSK9psW=XLNLQ@mail.gmail.com>

> Hey Spridgeteers, a quick off topic note. I am involved in the High Country
Beerfest which is September 3rd from 3-7 in Boone, NC. It is a fun event with
lots of local brews. We have it outside if possible, with under 2000 there,
including staff. The event is at a convention center with rooms, and we have
several options for a safe ride home (hotel).
> If you are in the area, and would like a nice cheap weekend getaway, it's a
good option. If you do come, look for me at the T shirt booth!
www.hcbeerfest.com Shameless promotion over.

Gee, and I will be about 26 miles west of there that weekend in
Cranberry, NC. Too bad I don't like beer!
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 16:03:53 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:03:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvRP1TUL-0gSYUhoSt9dDvJTdT+9PbTXzuVWFRf8G8qh6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5590607662891496886@unknownmsgid>
	<CAHkEVvRP1TUL-0gSYUhoSt9dDvJTdT+9PbTXzuVWFRf8G8qh6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-6628985898891169255@unknownmsgid>

You are probably right. How about the 1098?

David L

On Jul 27, 2011, at 16:42, Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com> wrote:

> See... I'm showing my ignorance.  I thought roll-up windows and
> semi-elliptical springs both hit in 1964.
> -Trevor
>
> PS. but yes 1967 was 1275, 1970 demise of Sprite, 1973...errr ... 1975
> rubber bumper, 1979 ... end of the spridget.
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
>>> or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
>>> or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
>>> or would it be ...
>>
>> And then we could celebrate roll-up windows, then the 1275, then the
>> demise of the Sprite, then the 1500, then the end of the Spridget...
>> David L
> _______________________________________________
>
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jul 27 16:25:10 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:25:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <5590607662891496886@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <2126381279.710579.1311805510375.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

Why not just "Spridgets Forever"?

Kate



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Trevor Jessie" <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:16:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event

> would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
> or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
> or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
> or would it be ...

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Jul 27 16:25:33 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:25:33 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
Message-ID: <20110727.162533.26155.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

How about 50 years of non-hand grenade 1100s? For those who aren't aware, the
10CG engine was superseded in'64 by the 10CC that didn't shear the cranks as
often.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016



would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
or would it be ...

-Trevor

____________________________________________________________
57 Year Old Mom Looks 27!
Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e3090746032325daf9st02duc

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 16:54:30 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:54:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <20110727.162533.26155.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110727.162533.26155.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <5076288970897152187@unknownmsgid>

> How about 50 years of non-hand grenade 1100s? For those who aren't aware, the
> 10CG engine was superseded in'64 by the 10CC that didn't shear the cranks as
> often.

And guess which one is in my Bugeye!
David L

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 17:12:56 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:12:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <20110727.162533.26155.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
References: <20110727.162533.26155.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <A719BB56-4481-49ED-BC13-7456BE06B76E@gmail.com>

Obviously it gets more convoluted.  I vote for the following naming  
convention for all subsequent gatherings

GOSHIT 20**

Gatherig
Of
Spridget
Handymen
In
Transit

On Jul 27, 2011 AD, at 5:25 PM, Mark Haynes wrote:

> How about 50 years of non-hand grenade 1100s? For those who aren't  
> aware, the
> 10CG engine was superseded in'64 by the 10CC that didn't shear the  
> cranks as
> often.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> HAN5L8016
>
>
>
> would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
> or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
> or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
> or would it be ...
>
> -Trevor
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27!
> Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/4e3090746032325daf9st02duc
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 27 17:14:22 2011
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:14:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone looking for a '64  Midget Project?
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W47A1C10068BF4E290F5D91CA350@phx.gbl>
References: <1ABDDE7A926E4C6D80563AD7E8AC81F4@HomeComputer>
	<SNT123-W47A1C10068BF4E290F5D91CA350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <13181C044C81485987E0AEA8D99F73E6@HomeComputer>

Side curtains and 1/4 elliptical springs...but I'm sure I'm not the only one
with a spare set of 1/2 elliptical springs and rear axle housings they would
donate...

-----Original Message-----

Is this a side-curtain or roll-up window car?
If it is a roll-up I have a body with very little rust that would go with
the
parts very well- cheap!!
BillM

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 17:51:04 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:51:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
Message-ID: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that was
featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked over
dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and the
reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires a
complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium in
money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually worth
what it seems to be fetching?

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 17:56:37 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:56:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Canadian Tank
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEL74y7=g_qAQ5XUvBM_rEaMCOVs02w8-yTuvWyD7H5JWw@mail.gmail.com>

I bought one years ago and it has been perfect for the last 7 years.

k

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 17:58:25 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:58:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnur1H7ua=kcXwy20mgjpYpoBJGdYRAcLzB2w06xmdKfrkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net> <159EBB679F2F4FD9BF95386994868C97@Home>
	<E83AC6C8C8CD412B85F40FBA34A2E23D@spider>
	<CAJgjnur1H7ua=kcXwy20mgjpYpoBJGdYRAcLzB2w06xmdKfrkg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E30A621.4030809@wi.net>

Ah, I love that infinitely!  Didn't he marry Julia?  ;-)

For you Mike,

Dave W.


On 7/27/2011 1:37 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
> Please.  I'm exhausted from trying to get the same solution out of repeated
> runs of the Mandelbrot Equations.....
>
> Cheers!
> Ed Lorenz
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:22 AM,<corvallis at peoplepc.com>  wrote:
>
>> Ok then, Chaos Theory.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
>>
>> =======================================
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:40 AM
>> To: Woerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list
>>
>> Good grief, Woerpel!   Don't get us off on String Theory again.  Haven't
>> you
>>
>> had enough?
>>
>> Michael Rowe
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 17:54:40 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:54:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club Website
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvSs77iNVxG9CgpPZVg1Bwojw-PRgbFeak9X6yyro1RsEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvSs77iNVxG9CgpPZVg1Bwojw-PRgbFeak9X6yyro1RsEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E30A540.2080802@wi.net>

Very nice Trevor!  I've been reliving almost every moment.  If other 
folks have pics send a link or the jpegs.
Super job!
Thanks,

Dave W.  Happy hour with a shot of Kentucky's finest....found Angel's 
Envy...I ain't tellin' where!  ;-)


On 7/27/2011 12:30 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote:
> The Sprite-Midget Club website has been "pruned"  and revamped a bit.  I
> didn't make any radical changes (some of us can't handle such things), but I
> did try to make it easier to find information.  In the coming days I'll be
> adding more info/links about the Midget 50th celebration that just wrapped
> up.  In particular, I'll have information on ordering the DVD.
>
> If you have anything to contribute, photo links, stories, videos, etc.
> please let me know and I'll try to fit it into a logical place within the
> site.
>
> Same URL, http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org ... different color.
>
> Thanks,
> Trevor Jessie

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 17:37:50 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:37:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Midget50 Event!
In-Reply-To: <CAF8rvQH6F4Z5p-HOakHrJdjSmMWPVmmf5gRbumxFeCco4ccu-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF8rvQH6F4Z5p-HOakHrJdjSmMWPVmmf5gRbumxFeCco4ccu-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E30A14E.8040303@wi.net>

Welcome Bruce!  Glad you joined this bunch of......wonderful folks!

I was praying no one would get caught in the Windy City with its 10" of 
rain.  Hmm, You stealing tire and Trevor hot wiring a car...what are we 
gonna do with you guys...oh, ya,  Welcome to the list. You fit right in!!
Next time it's your turn to organize the event....gotta spread the fun 
around!

Dave W.


On 7/27/2011 12:00 PM, Bruce Hamper wrote:
> Thanks to all the voluteers and Presidents for a great Midget 50 event!  I
> finally got signed up for the spridgets list and can see what I've been
> missing.  This is the best diversion I've come accross in a long time!  I
> hope I can add a few useful comments now and then.  The blue 69 Sprite got
> me back home; the only mishap being a flat tire in Chicago.  Friday morning
> I missed the rain in Wisconsin, but got caught in a downpour on Chicago's
> north side.  The rear driverside tire decided to go flat at the California
> and Diversey exit in North city.  It's amazing how far you can travel at 50
> mph with a flat tire. I put the spare on in the Popeye's chicken parking
> lot.  Got a visit from Chicago's uniformed men in blue, but once they
> realized that I wasn't stealing the tires they let me go.  Changing a tire
> is a spectator sport in Chicago - got lots of cheer's.
> 1000 miles - lots of driving fun and home at last.  Wish it was as cool as
> Wisconsin; St. Louis is HOT.
> Bruce Hamper
> 69 AH Sprite
> 59 AH Bugeye (in boxes)

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul 27 18:03:14 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:03:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] IF ... IF ... there were to be a 2014 Spridget Event
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHkEVvQMf168===7xxfSMNG8RVkC5gGg2rVBfqo7x+JzS-_Gsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E30A742.9090405@wi.net>

....A PARTY!!

Ed ;-)

On 7/27/2011 3:27 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote:
> would it be called  the 50 years of semi-elliptical springs?
> or would it be 50 years of roll up windows?
> or would it be 50 years of MKII/MKIII?
> or would it be ...
>
> -Trevor

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 18:28:01 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:28:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club Website
Message-ID: <CABWjhcLT+dDxXQMtyF0SZAX8QrCQAHh6=9WWcS1_k0ggaO7OcQ@mail.gmail.com>

I found it online.
They don't go out of their way to get anything really good at the state run
monopoly here in WA.

Mine will be delivered Friday.
Hey I could have got 2 bottles with what you gave me for those carbs!!
Well I suppose I did have to buy a new washing machine today, so not too
sorry I only ordered a single bottle.

Rick (envying the angels) Bastedo


<orig msg>
From: Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:54:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club Website

Very nice Trevor!  I've been reliving almost every moment.  If other folks
have pics send a link or the jpegs.
Super job!
Thanks,

Dave W.  Happy hour with a shot of Kentucky's finest....found Angel's
Envy...I ain't tellin' where!  ;-)

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 18:28:29 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:28:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>

Its so strange that a car with such a reputation for reliability can  
go wrong in ways that are harder to fix than a spridget.  Anyway, the  
rear struts on my 1993 corolla are pretty well dead.  Feals awful when  
I hit a bump.  Wife refuses to drive it.  I have a haynes manual for  
it and it looks easy enough but some of the bolts are torqued up to  
over 100 ft/lbs of torque!  I dont have a torque wrench that can  
measure that and I am not sure i can eat enough spinach to break them  
loose in the first place.  Any recommendations other than taking it in  
for repair?

-seth

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jul 27 18:29:43 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:29:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
In-Reply-To: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1311812983.51955.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I agree Rick.

In the case of this car, "Patina" is not an asset. As you say, the car needs 
almost everything. I will assume it has a solid tub which is a big plus but 
beyond that I fail to understand the excitement expressed by some of the people 
who commented. Even though the tub may be solid, the car still requires body 
work.

IMO, $7,300 far exceeds the value of a Bugeye in this state..

 jay fishbein

wallingford, CT




________________________________
From: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 7:51:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that was
featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked over
dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and the
reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires a
complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium in
money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually worth
what it seems to be fetching?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 18:53:22 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:53:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] High Country Beerfest - LBC trip?
In-Reply-To: <312969123-1311800032-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1611962558-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <312969123-1311800032-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1611962558-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupPLUfv4k=S7WSnf0QdvFwzQUjtKepGh9Dq9ydL6r-NwA@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmmm....  We have an annual national Beer Fest west of us in Colorado.  Bet
ours is higher than yours....    :-)

Cheers!!
Jim - also a home brewer...

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:

> Hey Spridgeteers, a quick off topic note. I am involved in the High Country
> Beerfest which is September 3rd from 3-7 in Boone, NC. It is a fun event
> with lots of local brews. We have it outside if possible, with under 2000
> there, including staff. The event is at a convention center with rooms, and
> we have several options for a safe ride home (hotel).
> If you are in the area, and would like a nice cheap weekend getaway, it's a
> good option. If you do come, look for me at the T shirt booth!
> www.hcbeerfest.com Shameless promotion over.
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Jul 27 19:00:24 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:00:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1772306781.637426.1311814824182.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

A long Cheater bar and some Kroil....

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Seth Jones" <sethamosjones at gmail.com> wrote:

  I dont have a torque wrench that can
> 
> measure that and I am not sure i can eat enough spinach to break them
> 
> loose in the first place.  Any recommendations other than taking it in
> 
> for repair?

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 19:00:42 2011
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:00:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.17.1311814861.3298.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Breaking them loose can be the easy part. Get a 6 foot section of 1.5 inch pipe, slip it over a lifetime warrantee sears ratchet and click away.

No idea how to get the torque set.

Good luck,

Steve 
Sent from me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Seth Jones <sethamosjones at gmail.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.netDate: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:28:29 
To: Spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles

Its so strange that a car with such a reputation for reliability can  
go wrong in ways that are harder to fix than a spridget.  Anyway, the  
rear struts on my 1993 corolla are pretty well dead.  Feals awful when  
I hit a bump.  Wife refuses to drive it.  I have a haynes manual for  
it and it looks easy enough but some of the bolts are torqued up to  
over 100 ft/lbs of torque!  I dont have a torque wrench that can  
measure that and I am not sure i can eat enough spinach to break them  
loose in the first place.  Any recommendations other than taking it in  
for repair?

-seth
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 19:01:30 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:01:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnup6RnChgvfuACUoDaeq9QQF5N-5hR5q71wh2teRaPnX_g@mail.gmail.com>

Trade it in on a Spridget.

Well....   You asked.....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Seth Jones <sethamosjones at gmail.com> wrote:

> Its so strange that a car with such a reputation for reliability can go
> wrong in ways that are harder to fix than a spridget.  Anyway, the rear
> struts on my 1993 corolla are pretty well dead.  Feals awful when I hit a
> bump.  Wife refuses to drive it.  I have a haynes manual for it and it looks
> easy enough but some of the bolts are torqued up to over 100 ft/lbs of
> torque!  I dont have a torque wrench that can measure that and I am not sure
> i can eat enough spinach to break them loose in the first place.  Any
> recommendations other than taking it in for repair?
>
> -seth
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jul 27 19:12:20 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:12:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0FD73C9E054244949C61DDC9EA41BE4D@spider>

I googled this subject.
Here is what a set of rear "quick" struts cost.
http://tinyurl.com/3da7arv
They're called quick because you don't need to change out the shock inside
the spring using a spring compressor. Don't try that. 
You can rent a torque wrench. Failing that, use a breaker arm and a cheater
bar.  100 foot-pounds = a one foot bar with 100 pounds of force ...or a two
foot bar with 50 pounds of force.
It may take more that 100 foot-pounds of force to break those nuts loose as
they've 'aged' on there. (also, static friction is greater than kinetic
friction; that is, you're moving the nut to get 100 foot-pounds, but when it
stops moving is takes more than 100 foot-pounds to break it loose.)
Ask back here if more things crop up. ...bill in corvallis

===============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Seth Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:28 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles

Its so strange that a car with such a reputation for reliability can  
go wrong in ways that are harder to fix than a Spridget.  Anyway, the  
rear struts on my 1993 corolla are pretty well dead.  Fells awful when  
I hit a bump.  Wife refuses to drive it.  I have a Haynes manual for  
it and it looks easy enough but some of the bolts are torqued up to  
over 100 ft/lbs of torque!  I don't have a torque wrench that can  
measure that and I am not sure i can eat enough spinach to break them  
loose in the first place.  Any recommendations other than taking it in  
for repair?

-seth
_______________________________________________

From lmacy at mac.com  Wed Jul 27 19:30:23 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:30:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midgetclub website
In-Reply-To: <A4D0E0F4-1C70-4C96-999B-3B646800EC26@gmail.com>
References: <74E70471-5C7A-4420-8FCB-0799A3B35907@chartermi.net>
	<A4D0E0F4-1C70-4C96-999B-3B646800EC26@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D56DC9F7-90AD-49CA-AB91-3E0A9DE2DB0B@mac.com>

I have some pics of the track day in my gallery <http://gallery.me.com/lmacy>
look for the Midget 50th - Track day album. THey are downloadable. I am not
sure if I have a shot of you, I tried to get some pics of all the cars, but in
the beginning I was directing traffic, then I was driving.

If you use any of my pics anywhere, I just ask that I am acknowledged as the
photographer.

Larry



On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Seth Jones wrote:

> I was wondering how I can get ahold of some of the autocross pictures.
Namely the ones that feature my car.
> On Jul 27, 2011 AD, at 2:53 PM, Rick Fisk wrote:
>
>> Trevor,
>>
>> The update to the website looks great!
>>
>> Everybody else,
>>
>> Trevor has loaded a bunch of photos from the 50th Midget Celebration.
Imagine
>> my surprise when I looked at the photos from the car show and my '79 Party
>> Midget is the first one shown.  LOL
>>
>> Rick
>> _______________________________________________
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

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lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways,
Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jul 27 19:35:53 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:35:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <925300716.20110727062828@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com>
	<925300716.20110727062828@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <1212889100.20110727183553@pacifier.com>

Hello,

      More progress...

      Well, I drained the tank through that screw hole then thought,

      Why didn't I just unscrew the drain plug? It would have gone a
      lot quicker.

      I didn't find Permatex 12020 which is designed to seal even
      against gasoline wet surfaces, so I used Permatex gasoline and
      radiator repair stuff. It took more surface prep, but it seems
      to be nice and hard. It says two hours cure time, but I'll wait
      until tomorrow morning to add back some fuel.

      I'm nervous (those who know me know I'm not that much of a
      mechanic unless I've SEEN something done once or twice) about
      dropping the tank even though it looks simple enough. The fuel
      line seems to have some kind of threaded nut thing that goes
      into the tank? but then the line is hard. does that just bend
      out of the way after loosening the "nut thingy?" ..

      and the wires to the sending unit, is there some sort of spade
      lug? 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  'Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt 

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 19:39:42 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:39:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <0FD73C9E054244949C61DDC9EA41BE4D@spider>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>,
	<5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>,
	<0FD73C9E054244949C61DDC9EA41BE4D@spider>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W444FECAA0ADD2E6D28FD25CA340@phx.gbl>

I just looked at "Drivewire.com" and the price is about the same, about $73
each
http://www.drivewire.com/search/?PN=4294942185&VN=4294967146+4294967152+42949
67003+4294967247+4294966998&N=0&Nr=AND%28universal:0%29
BillM

> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:12:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
>
> I googled this subject.
> Here is what a set of rear "quick" struts cost.
> http://tinyurl.com/3da7arv
> They're called quick because you don't need to change out the shock inside
> the spring using a spring compressor. Don't try that.
> You can rent a torque wrench. Failing that, use a breaker arm and a cheater
> bar.  100 foot-pounds = a one foot bar with 100 pounds of force ...or a two
> foot bar with 50 pounds of force.
> It may take more that 100 foot-pounds of force to break those nuts loose as
> they've 'aged' on there. (also, static friction is greater than kinetic
> friction; that is, you're moving the nut to get 100 foot-pounds, but when
it
> stops moving is takes more than 100 foot-pounds to break it loose.)
> Ask back here if more things crop up. ...bill in corvallis
>
> ===============================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Seth Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:28 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
>
> Its so strange that a car with such a reputation for reliability can
> go wrong in ways that are harder to fix than a Spridget.  Anyway, the
> rear struts on my 1993 corolla are pretty well dead.  Fells awful when
> I hit a bump.  Wife refuses to drive it.  I have a Haynes manual for
> it and it looks easy enough but some of the bolts are torqued up to
> over 100 ft/lbs of torque!  I don't have a torque wrench that can
> measure that and I am not sure i can eat enough spinach to break them
> loose in the first place.  Any recommendations other than taking it in
> for repair?
>
> -seth
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 20:13:47 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:13:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
In-Reply-To: <1212889100.20110727183553@pacifier.com>
References: <1915473533.20110726184738@pacifier.com>,
	<CAJgjnuoQC0Xh6wXWfEYoHBbmYrRLusxP+VyOxRHCSYks4AUDCA@mail.gmail.com>,
	<1387299611.20110726225534@pacifier.com>,
	<925300716.20110727062828@pacifier.com>,
	<1212889100.20110727183553@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W37108FC272A365171AE8F9CA340@phx.gbl>

Bill
DON'T unscrew that line!!
Disconnect the rubber line over by the pump and leave the steel line alone!
It will work fine that way.
BillM

> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:35:53 -0700
> From: pythias at pacifier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas Tank?
>
> Hello,
>
>       More progress...
>
>       Well, I drained the tank through that screw hole then thought,
>
>       Why didn't I just unscrew the drain plug? It would have gone a
>       lot quicker.
>
>       I didn't find Permatex 12020 which is designed to seal even
>       against gasoline wet surfaces, so I used Permatex gasoline and
>       radiator repair stuff. It took more surface prep, but it seems
>       to be nice and hard. It says two hours cure time, but I'll wait
>       until tomorrow morning to add back some fuel.
>
>       I'm nervous (those who know me know I'm not that much of a
>       mechanic unless I've SEEN something done once or twice) about
>       dropping the tank even though it looks simple enough. The fuel
>       line seems to have some kind of threaded nut thing that goes
>       into the tank? but then the line is hard. does that just bend
>       out of the way after loosening the "nut thingy?" ..
>
>       and the wires to the sending unit, is there some sort of spade
>       lug?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>   'Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all
doubt
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jul 27 20:19:32 2011
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:19:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
In-Reply-To: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <852A0731582D43E0877667175EF6AA76@blackbox2>

It hasn't fetched anything yet and the reserve has not been hit.

In the end the car is only worth what people are willing to bid for it.

For a car like this in an online auction (with a lot of eyes looking at it)
it seems silly to me to have a reserve. It's not like it is going to be low
balled or anything, even if he were to start it off at $1 bid.

If the seller wants to decide what the car is worth then they should just
put it up as "buy it now" or just set the starting price at the minimum they
are willing to accept.

I just think it's a big waste of everybody's time when the auction ends and
the reserve is not hit.  It's even more frustrating when after the auction
ends the seller negotiates the sale with some other party privately. 


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:51 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that was
featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked
over
dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and
the
reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires
a
complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium
in
money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually
worth
what it seems to be fetching?

Rick

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 20:27:18 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:27:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
In-Reply-To: <1311812983.51955.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>,
	<1311812983.51955.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W39E4F6DEB5E5D024668059CA340@phx.gbl>

This looks more realistic for the price-
http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/2514233351.html
BillM

> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:29:43 -0700
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
>
> I agree Rick.
>
> In the case of this car, "Patina" is not an asset. As you say, the car needs
> almost everything. I will assume it has a solid tub which is a big plus but
> beyond that I fail to understand the excitement expressed by some of the
people
> who commented. Even though the tub may be solid, the car still requires body
> work.
>
> IMO, $7,300 far exceeds the value of a Bugeye in this state..
>
>  jay fishbein
>
> wallingford, CT
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 7:51:04 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
>
> I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that
was
> featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked
over
> dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and
the
> reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires
a
> complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
> refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium
in
> money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
> vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
> looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
> anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
> patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually
worth
> what it seems to be fetching?
> _______________________________________________
>
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 20:45:09 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:45:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W444FECAA0ADD2E6D28FD25CA340@phx.gbl>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
	<0FD73C9E054244949C61DDC9EA41BE4D@spider>
	<SNT123-W444FECAA0ADD2E6D28FD25CA340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0xhN9nczFCWk+1GbHTLdUBoNznsSr9hVVhmmW29fk_6Lw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyway, the rear struts on my 1993 corolla are pretty well dead.
Fells awful when I hit a bump.  Wife refuses to drive it.  I have a
Haynes manual for it and it looks easy enough
-------------------------------------------------
My neighbor had one about the same vintage with the same symptoms...
The mounts were rusted off the car! Take a close look before you go
buying parts...

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Wed Jul 27 20:45:17 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:45:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <20110728011718.1E093187A27@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <876594595.638555.1311821117897.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

IIRC  putting an extension on the socket increases the torque,
But I don't remember the formula  :-(


--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "an5 sprite" <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

> Breaking them loose can be the easy part. Get a 6 foot section of 1.5
> inch pipe, slip it over a lifetime warrantee sears ratchet and click
> away.
> 
> 
> 
> No idea how to get the torque set.
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> Sent from me.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jul 27 21:09:12 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W39E4F6DEB5E5D024668059CA340@phx.gbl>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, 
	<1311812983.51955.YahooMailRC@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT123-W39E4F6DEB5E5D024668059CA340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1311822552.82955.YahooMailRC@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Really?

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
To: spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 10:27:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

This looks more realistic for the price-
http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/2514233351.html
BillM

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jul 28 12:18:06 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:18:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?
Message-ID: <201107281117717.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Is the list down?   Perhaps someone already sent this.  That could be 
the reason....

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1812955



Peter C

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 18:22:35 2011
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:22:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] T/O Roller release bearing
Message-ID: <71FD2FD9-3E93-4194-9A4F-7971E4254F49@gmail.com>

Hey All,

Anyone have/know of a source for a roller release T/O bearing for a  
1275 with ribcase tranny?    already know about Peter May  
Engineering, and would like something closer to home ;)

Thanks!

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa.

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 08:25:15 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:25:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
In-Reply-To: <0796D8DB455043DAA5728572FAA42C62@spider>
References: <7BD4FF8B700544EAAC781A153CF23ABB@spider>
	<075d01cc4a4c$16835f20$438a1d60$@rr.com>
	<0796D8DB455043DAA5728572FAA42C62@spider>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OvA60kA0duEwLLNsUSLFu2XnO+Gx2Qur7LViDd0kVzTdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome to the King Pin Club.  It is a rite of passage that all Spridget
owners must go thru.  You will be amazed at the difference in handling when
you are finished.  And don't forget to install rebuilt shocks from Peter C.

Remember, reassembly is the reverse of removal.  Simple!!

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Got the king pin fulcrum pin out.
> I tried everything suggested, thank you. Ended up drilling it out.
> ...bill in corvallis
> http://www.97330.com/Disassembly_axle_hub_assembly.html
> ========================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Seippel [mailto:aseippel at austin.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:53 PM
> To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
>
> I consider the fulcrum pin as a disposable part. Anytime I disassemble the
> swivel pin, I always have new fulcrum pins available. That ensures that the
> pin will come out without being damaged. I have used the following tools
> successfully:
>
> Hammer
> Hammer with a punch
> Battery terminal puller
> Torch to swell the base of the swivel pin surrounding the fulcrum pin
>
> When I order replacement parts, I usually order several extras.  :-)
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> corvallis at peoplepc.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:28 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] king pin pin removal
>
> I'm rebuilding the right front axel assembly. The king pin (called swivel
> pin in Bentley's) is held to the fulcrum pin by a small tapered pin (called
> a king pin pin in the Mo** parts list.) Anybody had trouble getting that
> out? (1979 MG Midget.)   .bill in corvallis
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Jul 28 08:18:34 2011
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:18:34 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
Message-ID: <20110728.081834.11881.1@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Obviously, Rick, You weren't in Elkhart Lake. My '58 is just such a car. Last
registered in '88, sitting outside for 20 years before I rescued it, my paint
is terrible compared to the BAT bug (ask anyone at Elkhart, they'll tell
you-It won "Most likely to score LAST at Concours). But it runs and handles
like stink with the engine that I bought it with.
I agree that $7200+ is an exorbitant price- I picked mine up for $3k in 2008.
I jsut drive it like I stole it, and I'm fine with that.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
HAN5L8016



I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that was
featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked
over
dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and
the
reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires a
complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium
in
money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually
worth
what it seems to be fetching?

Rick



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From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Thu Jul 28 08:31:12 2011
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:31:12 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
In-Reply-To: <295187017.775180.1311862389860.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1293300025.775451.1311863472637.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

I am thinking that they are commenting on BAT the way that they are because they want BAT to accept them?  It is kind of like when a person is younger and they want the older bully to accept them, they will do and say things that they would not normally do to fit in.  This Bugeye is at top dollar right now and reserve is not met.  I am with you all.  I wonder what the BAT publicity will do.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:29:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

I agree Rick.

In the case of this car, "Patina" is not an asset. As you say, the car needs 
almost everything. I will assume it has a solid tub which is a big plus but 
beyond that I fail to understand the excitement expressed by some of the people 
who commented. Even though the tub may be solid, the car still requires body 
work.

IMO, $7,300 far exceeds the value of a Bugeye in this state..

 jay fishbein

wallingford, CT




________________________________
From: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 7:51:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that was
featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked over
dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and the
reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires a
complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium in
money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually worth
what it seems to be fetching?
_______________________________________________

From lbc77mg at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 08:46:10 2011
From: lbc77mg at gmail.com (Allen Hefner)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:46:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<5DB18AE4-4CF6-4E11-BA5F-EFCE47023553@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMEj5OsbeQ-FTv_MBwVEf1XzqvcpMY=G-J0R663i9=98r_++dg@mail.gmail.com>

Keep in mind that 100 ft/lbs isn't too bad.  The lugs on my Mitsubishi were
torqued to that and I could get them off with a T bar.

You should have a breaker bar in your tool box.  It looks like a ratchet
without the ratchet.  Then get a hunka pipe that fits over the handle and
doubles or triples the length.  Plenty of power to loosen most stuff.

I also wouldn't worry too much about using a torque wrench to reinstall.
Just tighten with about the same ooomph as you would use for a lug nut.

As someone else said, check for rusty mounts before you do too much work.
If it's bad enough, you may need a welder, or a new Toyota.

 Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget



On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Seth Jones <sethamosjones at gmail.com> wrote:

> Its so strange that a car with such a reputation for reliability can go
> wrong in ways that are harder to fix than a spridget.  Anyway, the rear
> struts on my 1993 corolla are pretty well dead.  Feals awful when I hit a
> bump.  Wife refuses to drive it.  I have a haynes manual for it and it looks
> easy enough but some of the bolts are torqued up to over 100 ft/lbs of
> torque!  I dont have a torque wrench that can measure that and I am not sure
> i can eat enough spinach to break them loose in the first place.  Any
> recommendations other than taking it in for repair?
>
> -seth
> ______________________________**_________________

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Thu Jul 28 22:39:05 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:39:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?
In-Reply-To: <201107281117717.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201107281117717.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4E323969.4080009@croakingfrog.net>

Really. I didn't need to see that.  LMAO

***

On 7/28/2011 2:18 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote:
> Is the list down?   Perhaps someone already sent this.  That could be
> the reason....
>
> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1812955
>
>
>
> Peter C
> _______________________________________________
>
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Thu Jul 28 22:41:49 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 04:41:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <1311907922.67159.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1683913785.652972.1311914509202.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Ron,

Does adding an extension to the socket *also* increase the perceived torque as measured by the torque wrench??

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> tau=R*F*sin theta (r is radius; increase it and torque goes up
> proportionally)

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Thu Jul 28 22:45:55 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:45:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
In-Reply-To: <op.vy8pincosjevdj@pete200>
References: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
	<CAL0QtVeockX5W3X=tLbJHT=WnvE0-UNVZpF9n2wPsiQfJRKOxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.vy8pincosjevdj@pete200>
Message-ID: <4E323B03.6030209@croakingfrog.net>

Morris, the 72 RWA, is under the pines and the knife/ratchet. Worked on
removing windshield frame only to find I need to yank the dash to get
there. Trials and tribulations....... but what the heck... right?

Working on http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com for a photo archive .....
be there shortly ...

Chap
********

On 7/26/2011 2:55 PM, Pete Chast wrote:
> Interested, yes.
>
> Pete
> NY
>
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:32:04 -0400, Linda Grunthaner
> <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Where are you located Chap, sounds like a road trip to me. Anyone
>> interested
>> if it is not too far?
>> Lin
>>> From NJ
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:57 AM, lcjones <lcjones at croakingfrog.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OSh!t On The Farm
>>>
>>> If you have enough miles on you, you'll remember "Made At Pinewood
>>> Studios." Live And Let Die was filmed at Pinewood right around '72 or
>>> '73. My little RWA was built in 72. But we're not going to live and let
>>> it die. As a matter of fact we've rolled the RWA into Pinewood
>>> Garage to
>>> "git-r-done.". Well, at least to get it running and rolling under it's
>>> own power. Pinewood Garage, however, is not a garage but actually a
>>> stand of pines on the farm under which the OSh!T On The Farm will take
>>> place. Because I don't have a garage. Got a barn.. but with the tin
>>> roof
>>> rusted nearly off, the pines have better coverage.  Guess I could have
>>> named it Tarpaulin Garage. In any case, it will most likely be a solo
>>> OSh!t. Unless my brother with his welder and beer stops by.
>>>
>>> The RWA hasn't run for at least seven years. My OSh!t goal? To have the
>>> RWA running and on the road in 5 weeks, the first weekend of September.
>>> I've got most of my parts. I think. Boxes of parts. Complete brakes,
>>> front to back. Clutch hydraulics.  All tune up stuff. No suspension
>>> items yet. I've already had the radiator re-cored. Belts, hoses and
>>> even
>>> a new water valve. I do though, need a new/old heater core housing or
>>> repair it as best I can. All kinds of interior goodies. New front
>>> screen
>>> and top. Weather strips and gaskets. I a$$ume the trans is good. May
>>> need a clutch set. I don't know.
>>>
>>> Th RWA is a solid car with some minor to moderate rust in the most
>>> typical places. I'm not going for a "restore" at this time. I just want
>>> to get it up and running so I can determine it's other needs. Besides,
>>> the Mrs. is really anxious and "on me" about getting running. She wants
>>> to ride in it.  :)
>>>
>>> Anyway, it's OSh!t On The Farm, or as we say down home, sh!t 'er git
>>> off'n the pot. Wish me luck. Send beer. Or corn cobs..... gonna need
>>> both, I reckon.
>>>
>>> Chap
>>> Caintucky
>>> _________________________

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Jul 27 21:36:47 2011
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:36:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
In-Reply-To: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1311810664.23907.YahooMailClassic@web161209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A6DBA6D1C1474EB0B2CABE5DBE4C3BA4@RikerPC>

The first thing that jumped out at me is that this bugeye is wearing it's 
original black California plates AND dealer plate frames.... from my 
hometown Chico, California.  I have a set of "Earls" dealer plate frames I 
kept off of a Chico
Bugeye I helped a friend refresh many years ago.  I don't have the cash, but 
I think that car is worth about $10k as it sits.  It is absolutely a 
candidate for a good wax & detail,  an interior kit, and drive it.
David R
Missing Chico.

-----Original Message----- 
From: HealeyRick
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:51 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that was
featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked 
over
dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and 
the
reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires 
a
complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium 
in
money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually 
worth
what it seems to be fetching?

Rick


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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Thu Jul 28 00:01:17 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:01:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
Message-ID: <CABWjhc+mK_kKF54Tb0NqApa3=p5+nDQOxP-V+96z4xjS0VPe+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Funny, the ad says "it has a single side-draft carbureator" when it's
clearly got a downdraft weber in the picture.



> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
> To: spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:27:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
>


> This looks more realistic for the price-
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/2514233351.html
> BillM

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Fri Jul 29 02:40:22 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:40:22 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets]  Toyota Troubles
Message-ID: <CAN4UhUKyNUdrP2f+jSgZhwPUuG_-Gp=dechWu17bgVAfeyNHgQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just catching up on old messages

100 ft lbs  is the same as hanging  100lbs weight off a one foot long
wrench  or 50lbs on a 2 foot wrench 0r 25lbs on a 4 ft wrench (but add a bit
too to be sure )
 soaking  threads with diesel oil or WD40 can help , so can judicial
appliance of heat .
undoing is easy  because you can use a big hammer too - even drilling
through a nut to weaken it first .
tightening  - hire / borrow a torque wrench

it also depends on what the nuts are holding in place  - be careful , very
careful  if  they are restraing a coil spring for example  - attach a
restainer of some sort


Alan  (never owned a Jap car in my life )
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
Message-ID: <mailman.25076.1311820051.3301.spridgets at autox.team.net>
Content-Type: text/plain

Breaking them loose can be the easy part. Get a 6 foot section of 1.5 inch
pipe, slip it over a lifetime warrantee sears ratchet and click away.

No idea how to get the torque set.

Good luck,

From lotuspilot at frontier.com  Fri Jul 29 05:04:47 2011
From: lotuspilot at frontier.com (lotuspilot at frontier.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:04:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?
In-Reply-To: <369490256.797557.1311937219205.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <283357218.797570.1311937487360.JavaMail.root@cl02-host01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

"It is absolutely a candidate for a good wax & detail,  an interior kit, and drive it." Are you seriously saying that you would not fix the fender benders?  Especially the front one?  If I am paying $10K or more.  I expect the Sprite to be somewhat presentable.  Bugeyes seem to be very very plentiful to say the least.  Definitely no shortage.

I really need to sell the '61 cherry red Bugeye in my garage that I have been sitting on for about eight years.  It is looking to be a great investment as it doesn't even need paint - as in no fender benders.  It was a San Diego car all of its life.  I paid $3K even when I bought it.  Has it really tripled in value?  Heck it even has its original cylinder head in place along with the factory optional 1 and 1/4 brass top carbs.  I need to take neat pictures as it is being removed from my neighbors barn and have someone submit them to BAT so I can get all of the stupid patina comments ;^)).

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
To: "HealeyRick" <healeyrick at yahoo.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:36:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

The first thing that jumped out at me is that this bugeye is wearing it's 
original black California plates AND dealer plate frames.... from my 
hometown Chico, California.  I have a set of "Earls" dealer plate frames I 
kept off of a Chico
Bugeye I helped a friend refresh many years ago.  I don't have the cash, but 
I think that car is worth about $10k as it sits.  It is absolutely a 
candidate for a good wax & detail,  an interior kit, and drive it.
David R
Missing Chico.

-----Original Message----- 
From: HealeyRick
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:51 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] BAT BE Worth the $$$ ?

I know a lot of us have been watching the barn find bugeye  on eBay that was
featured on Bring A Trailer:  http://tinyurl.com/3p6c7wg  I'm not knocked 
over
dead by this car as some of the commentators on BAT seem to be.  $7300 and 
the
reserve hasn't been met?  If you wanted to do a concours build, it requires 
a
complete tear-down and virtually every part is going to need replacement or
refurbishment. If it's as solid as it looks, might be worth a small premium 
in
money saved on body repair.  I respect the patina of a well maintained
vehicle, but this isn't one of them. It was last registered in 1988, so it
looks like it was used pretty hard for 30 yrs before being put away.  Would
anyone really be happy driving this rat around as is and brag about its
patina?  Have I been out of the market too long and this car is actually 
worth
what it seems to be fetching?

Rick

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 29 05:22:07 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 04:22:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <1683913785.652972.1311914509202.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1311907922.67159.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1683913785.652972.1311914509202.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <C3B81DA7BF0D4E1FABD1BCD8A2F36F6F@spider>

No. It just complicates things as you have to keep things horizontal or
perpendicular to get an accurate Torque Wrench reading. ...bill in corvallis
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:42 PM
To: Ron Soave
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles

Ron,

Does adding an extension to the socket *also* increase the perceived torque
as measured by the torque wrench??

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> tau=R*F*sin theta (r is radius; increase it and torque goes up
> proportionally)
_______________________________________________

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Fri Jul 29 06:23:00 2011
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (EASTJONES alan)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:23:00 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Jacobs midgets raced in the USA Where are they now ?
Message-ID: <CAN4UhUKB9JC+2bNkq-dXGiHzpE_+dNMbDc-37FiZSVP9-dHuWQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.jacobsmidget.com/index.html

Whilst investigating one of the racing midgets I photographed at
Silverstone  I came across this interesting web site ,  I ilke the reference
to the Cooper S engined cars sent to America to compete in 500 mile race
prior to the launch of the 1275 engined midgets and sprites.

http://www.jacobsmidget.com/index.html

Alan
Warwick UK

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 06:25:22 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:25:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <C3B81DA7BF0D4E1FABD1BCD8A2F36F6F@spider>
References: <1311907922.67159.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1683913785.652972.1311914509202.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<C3B81DA7BF0D4E1FABD1BCD8A2F36F6F@spider>
Message-ID: <-6003933675790613162@unknownmsgid>

> No. It just complicates things as you have to keep things horizontal or

perpendicular to get an accurate Torque Wrench reading. ...bill in corvallis

Very well put! I couldn't figure out how to phrase it.
David L

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 06:56:00 2011
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:56:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] new to the list
In-Reply-To: <4E30A621.4030809@wi.net>
References: <B73B9A20-4DC1-4C87-808E-A6BC2C5CAE3C@gmail.com>
	<4E2F56D6.4050704@wi.net> <159EBB679F2F4FD9BF95386994868C97@Home>
	<E83AC6C8C8CD412B85F40FBA34A2E23D@spider>
	<CAJgjnur1H7ua=kcXwy20mgjpYpoBJGdYRAcLzB2w06xmdKfrkg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E30A621.4030809@wi.net>
Message-ID: <CAL0QtVeJVihzLmUfd=khZ2xEKBzvF7+8DJkhdUr8m+DKx8roAw@mail.gmail.com>

Seth & Guinevere,
Welcome to the list, yes where are you now and where will you look to head
out to? I have a 62 deep pink (factory not my choice) Sprite, and a late 58
Sprite. I'm also into cycles & vans from Germany.

I live in NJ north 30 miles from the Clarici's. Give a shout if you are
nearby and looking for an OSHIT day.

Kate what location is the industry for parts and heavy equipment jobs I may
be interested in 5 years selling or otherwise on the heavy equipment types
of work as I love anything tech & moving vehicles. ; )
Lin

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Ah, I love that infinitely!  Didn't he marry Julia?  ;-)
>
> For you Mike,
>
> Dave W.
>
>
>
> On 7/27/2011 1:37 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> Please.  I'm exhausted from trying to get the same solution out of
>> repeated
>> runs of the Mandelbrot Equations.....
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ed Lorenz
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:22 AM,<corvallis at peoplepc.com>  wrote:
>>
>>  Ok then, Chaos Theory.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Chaos_theory<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory>
>>>
>>> ==============================**=========
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.**net<spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net>
>>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@**autox.team.net<spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net>]
>>> On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:40 AM
>>> To: Woerpel; spridgets at autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] new to the list
>>>
>>> Good grief, Woerpel!   Don't get us off on String Theory again.  Haven't
>>> you
>>>
>>> had enough?
>>>
>>> Michael Rowe
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 07:39:49 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:39:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
In-Reply-To: <4E323B03.6030209@croakingfrog.net>
References: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
	<CAL0QtVeockX5W3X=tLbJHT=WnvE0-UNVZpF9n2wPsiQfJRKOxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.vy8pincosjevdj@pete200> <4E323B03.6030209@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0x=3AM3a3xmAXCYArAdU4YH0H5bN5QUeSbKrEntHMipKA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:45 AM, lcjones at croakingfrog.net
<lcjones at croakingfrog.net> wrote:
Morris, the 72 RWA, is under the pines and the knife/ratchet. Worked
on removing windshield frame only to find I need to yank the dash to
get there. Trials and tribulations....... but what the heck... right?
------------------------------------------------------
You don't have to pull the dash... It is a PITA but can be done
without that. Take the parcel shelf out of the way though. Use a thin
wall socket and a medium extension to get to the nuts on the passenger
side. Can't remember if you need the extension on the driver's side.
Don't try on a hot day as you need to bend a lot and you will most
likely cramp up from dehydration ona day like today...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul 29 07:50:19 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 06:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?
In-Reply-To: <201107281117717.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201107281117717.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <1311947419.41301.YahooMailRC@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

>From the ad: 
"My problem is that I hurt my left foot (torn ligaments?)..."

I would have suspected a traumatic brain injury.

 jay




________________________________
From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 2:18:06 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?

Is the list down?   Perhaps someone already sent this.  That could be the 
reason....

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1812955

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul 29 08:30:39 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?
In-Reply-To: <1311947419.41301.YahooMailRC@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <201107281117717.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1311947419.41301.YahooMailRC@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1311949839.55939.YahooMailRC@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I suppose the upside is that the builder never saw this creation:
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/05/04/besasies-bizarre-batmobile/?refer=news


 jay

_______________________________

From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 2:18:06 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?

Is the list down?   Perhaps someone already sent this.  That could be the 
reason....

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1812955

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 09:46:43 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:46:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?
In-Reply-To: <1311949839.55939.YahooMailRC@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <201107281117717.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1311947419.41301.YahooMailRC@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<1311949839.55939.YahooMailRC@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuqOUO0L=H1zpEOab04nLobJH5qm6k=DyewVqXH3pQYi8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Its...  Its....   Its....   Ummmm....    Nevermind,

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> I suppose the upside is that the builder never saw this creation:
>
> http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/05/04/besasies-bizarre-batmobile/?refer=news
>
>
>  jay
>
> _______________________________
>
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 2:18:06 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Edsel Sprite?
>
> Is the list down?   Perhaps someone already sent this.  That could be the
> reason....
>
> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1812955
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 11:06:26 2011
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:06:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting Comments From Tony Tocock Re: Aston Martin
	History
Message-ID: <CAMyxPEJCO-R501jokOSETdedtbV_JawP3TQ=otmbzyUKUW-_nQ@mail.gmail.com>

I guess you could file this under "what were they thinking?"

I was reading a magazine that I picked up in the UK a couple of months ago
with an article by Tony Tocock.   Tocock was Aston Martin's service engineer
and race mechanic during the era of the 50's and 60's.

>From page 61 out of the June issue of *Thoroughbred & Classic Cars* Tocock
writes about the quality issues of the DB6 engine.  (Lagonda Bentley 6 Cyl).

Very interesting (at least to me).  Tocock joined Aston Martin in
1950.  *(David
Brown* acquired *Aston Martin* in 1947 and Lagonda the following year).

Quote from the article:

*"The LB6 was a bad engine.  When David Brown bought the company it was one
of the first twin overhead camshaft engines in a conventional car.  Jaguar
jumped on it pretty soon afterwards and beat us hand over fist simply
because it's engine had a normal cylinder block and a seven bearing crank.

The LB6 had a four bearing crank with aluminum cheese bearings.  They were
absolutely diabolical.  To think of a DOHC six cylinder on four bearings!

The blocks were weak too.  It was a disaster and it was a wonder the
warranty rates didn't break the firm.  I can remember at one time having
four customer engines under my bench waiting for attention."

-------------------------------------------

*I guess this might be considered one of the low points in British
engineering.

Kirk *

   *

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jul 29 13:10:22 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:10:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank- UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcJNF2ZvfoLEPdXTOeWjhfGJajs=on00GKa69-Ex8mRmRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcJNF2ZvfoLEPdXTOeWjhfGJajs=on00GKa69-Ex8mRmRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1606662313.20110729121022@pacifier.com>

Hello Rick,

     My in place gas tank repairs worked perfectly. I refilled the
     tank yesterday without ever having to remove it. Permatex makes
     some stuff that will stick right to gasoline wetted surfaces, but
     I couldn't find any locally, (12020) but I did get their Radiator
     and Gas tank repair kit. I drained the tank, let it dry well,
     cleaned the area around the HOLE with BRAKE-CLEAN, sanded down to
     bare metal with Emery Cloth, cleaned the brake-clean again then
     wiped it all dry. Next I waited to be sure it was dry and clean,
     then broke a chunk of the stick off. It's a two part epoxy stick
     that you knead until uniform in color and texture. Formed it into
     the recommended conical shape and shoved it into the hole and
     smoothed it out around it to make about a 1" diameter patch.
     It says it cures in two hours so i waited overnight, then added
     1/2 gallon of gas back into the tank. That hole was fixed, but
     there was another teeny tiny hole nearby! So small it would
     probably take a month to leak a pint, but still obviously not
     DRY, so I mixed some more compound and spread it around that leak
     too. .. I waited another 4 or 5 hours, checking for dryness, then
     painted the patched areas with black rustoleum. after that dried,
     i poured another 5 gallons of gas in the tank and have seen no
     indications of anything moist at the patched points....

     VICTORY... ..

     Total cost,

     Permatex         <  $6
     Brake Clean      ~  $5
     5 gallon gas can ~ $16

--                    < $30 including tax.

      and i still have the gas can, most of the brake clean, and most
      the patch stuff. ..

      way less than the cost a new tank, even it would have come from
      CANADA. ..


      by the way, do those new tanks come with a drain plug?



Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 Mount St. Helens should have used earth control.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 29 13:45:47 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:45:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <-6003933675790613162@unknownmsgid>
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"you have to keep things horizontal or perpendicular to get an accurate Torque
Wrench reading"    Huh???   You guys must have taken a different physics class
than I did.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:25 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

>> No. It just complicates things as you have to keep things horizontal or
>
> perpendicular to get an accurate Torque Wrench reading. ...bill in
corvallis
>
> Very well put! I couldn't figure out how to phrase it.
> David L

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Jul 29 13:58:48 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:58:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Tank- UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <1606662313.20110729121022@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <504078378.660511.1311969528293.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

And the most expensive item...

5 Gallons of gas @ ~$4 = $20   <Grin>

Well Done. :)

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 14:26:12 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:26:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <F9C4784D-31E4-4DAE-BD33-B06499D0BDF9@chartermi.net>
References: <1311907922.67159.YahooMailNeo@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <6915749760317984924@unknownmsgid>

Rick,
The issue was an extension between the torque wrench and the socket.
Due care must be exercised to avoid affecting the accuracy of your
torque readings.
David L

On Jul 29, 2011, at 16:09, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> "you have to keep things horizontal or perpendicular to get an accurate Torque
> Wrench reading"    Huh???   You guys must have taken a different physics class
> than I did.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:25 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> No. It just complicates things as you have to keep things horizontal or
>>
>> perpendicular to get an accurate Torque Wrench reading. ...bill in
> corvallis
>>
>> Very well put! I couldn't figure out how to phrase it.
>> David L
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jul 29 14:30:36 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:30:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting Comments From Tony Tocock Re: Aston
 Martin History
In-Reply-To: <CAMyxPEJCO-R501jokOSETdedtbV_JawP3TQ=otmbzyUKUW-_nQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMyxPEJCO-R501jokOSETdedtbV_JawP3TQ=otmbzyUKUW-_nQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E33186C.9010204@wi.net>

Wow!  Who knew?  Guess I'll replace my LB6 with an 3.8  E Type engine.  
Now all I have to do is find a DB6 AND an E type engine.......
Dave W.



On 7/29/2011 12:06 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
> I guess you could file this under "what were they thinking?"
>
> I was reading a magazine that I picked up in the UK a couple of months ago
> with an article by Tony Tocock.   Tocock was Aston Martin's service engineer
> and race mechanic during the era of the 50's and 60's.
>
> > From page 61 out of the June issue of *Thoroughbred&  Classic Cars* Tocock
> writes about the quality issues of the DB6 engine.  (Lagonda Bentley 6 Cyl).
>
> Very interesting (at least to me).  Tocock joined Aston Martin in
> 1950.  *(David
> Brown* acquired *Aston Martin* in 1947 and Lagonda the following year).
>
> Quote from the article:
>
> *"The LB6 was a bad engine.  When David Brown bought the company it was one
> of the first twin overhead camshaft engines in a conventional car.  Jaguar
> jumped on it pretty soon afterwards and beat us hand over fist simply
> because it's engine had a normal cylinder block and a seven bearing crank.
>
> The LB6 had a four bearing crank with aluminum cheese bearings.  They were
> absolutely diabolical.  To think of a DOHC six cylinder on four bearings!
>
> The blocks were weak too.  It was a disaster and it was a wonder the
> warranty rates didn't break the firm.  I can remember at one time having
> four customer engines under my bench waiting for attention."
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> *I guess this might be considered one of the low points in British
> engineering.
>
> Kirk *
>
>     *
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 29 14:39:20 2011
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:39:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
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Message-ID: <65AD01A7-D15C-4D70-836A-5E829A40E3AF@chartermi.net>

David,

The "due care must be exercised to avoid affecting the accuracy" part I agree
with 100%.  It was the "horizontal or perpendicular" thing that had me
confused.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:26 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick,
> The issue was an extension between the torque wrench and the socket.
> Due care must be exercised to avoid affecting the accuracy of your
> torque readings.
> David L
>
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 16:09, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>
>> "you have to keep things horizontal or perpendicular to get an accurate
Torque
>> Wrench reading"    Huh???   You guys must have taken a different physics
class
>> than I did.  :-)
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:25 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> No. It just complicates things as you have to keep things horizontal or
>>>
>>> perpendicular to get an accurate Torque Wrench reading. ...bill in
>> corvallis
>>>
>>> Very well put! I couldn't figure out how to phrase it.
>>> David L
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 15:11:53 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:11:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Troubles
In-Reply-To: <65AD01A7-D15C-4D70-836A-5E829A40E3AF@chartermi.net>
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	<65AD01A7-D15C-4D70-836A-5E829A40E3AF@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <-2592532394744476902@unknownmsgid>

Think "relative to the torque wrench" rather than to the horizon.
David L

On Jul 29, 2011, at 17:10, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> David,
>
> The "due care must be exercised to avoid affecting the accuracy" part I agree
> with 100%.  It was the "horizontal or perpendicular" thing that had me
> confused.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:26 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>> The issue was an extension between the torque wrench and the socket.
>> Due care must be exercised to avoid affecting the accuracy of your
>> torque readings.
>> David L
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 16:09, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "you have to keep things horizontal or perpendicular to get an accurate
> Torque
>>> Wrench reading"    Huh???   You guys must have taken a different physics
> class
>>> than I did.  :-)
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:25 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> No. It just complicates things as you have to keep things horizontal or
>>>>
>>>> perpendicular to get an accurate Torque Wrench reading. ...bill in
>>> corvallis
>>>>
>>>> Very well put! I couldn't figure out how to phrase it.
>>>> David L
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Fri Jul 29 15:16:11 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:16:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting Comments From Tony Tocock Re: Aston
 Martin History
In-Reply-To: <4E33186C.9010204@wi.net>
Message-ID: <1670414651.661364.1311974171499.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

My old 1960 Jag MkIX had the 3.8 twin-carb 150 Motor.
It really pushes the horses with a triple-carb set-up
IIRC the MkVII has a similar engine. 

They're not that expensive - but they're hard to find at a good price.
I got mine for $3500... should never have sold it, Doh!

--

Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Woerpel" <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Wow!  Who knew?  Guess I'll replace my LB6 with an 3.8  E Type engine.
> 
> Now all I have to do is find a DB6 AND an E type engine.......

From kmappley at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 15:39:31 2011
From: kmappley at gmail.com (Kurt Appley)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:39:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re Re  Edsel Sprite!!!!!
Message-ID: <CANv6dsB1doKKBc8TuwGzF_uVBu8QduJxiP=a1Kqm2ZYMZRzEPA@mail.gmail.com>

The real beauty of the car is that you can remove the "improvements" and
maybe have something decent!!!

Kurt.

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Fri Jul 29 19:11:03 2011
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:11:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Filling rear shocks
Message-ID: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>

Are there fill plugs in the rear deck for the shocks on a '70 midget?  
The Haynes manual is silent on this particular point. The DPO glued the 
carpeting back there, an I don't want to pull it up unless there are 
fill ports available.

The good news,-- le Midget is back on the road.

Thanks,
Dave Ambrose

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 19:43:45 2011
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:43:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Filling rear shocks
In-Reply-To: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>
References: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>
Message-ID: <CA+Xq+0w55MsnqhFVKKQ+_oXWN0+5L0QPJWNdA-OeQroYQwTD=Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:11 PM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:
Are there fill plugs in the rear deck for the shocks on a '70 midget?
The Haynes manual is silent on this particular point. The DPO glued
the carpeting back there, an I don't want to pull it up unless there
are fill ports available.
-----------------------------------
Short answer, no. You do better by removing them to drain and fill.
Might as well just get some Peter C. rebuilts if you're gonna pull
them!


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul 29 19:54:32 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:54:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Filling rear shocks
In-Reply-To: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>
References: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>
Message-ID: <1311990872.88073.YahooMailRC@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

David,

Sorry, but there aren't.

 jay




________________________________
From: David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, July 29, 2011 9:11:03 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Filling rear shocks

Are there fill plugs in the rear deck for the shocks on a '70 midget?  The 
Haynes manual is silent on this particular point. The DPO glued the carpeting 
back there, an I don't want to pull it up unless there are fill ports available.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 29 20:02:10 2011
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:02:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Filling rear shocks
In-Reply-To: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>
References: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>
Message-ID: <201107291902632.SM01424@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

The fill plugs are on the body. Still a 1/4"W or you can round off 
the head with a 9/16". Access from under the car, not through the body. Or....
         Peter
==
At 08:11 PM 7/29/2011, David Ambrose wrote:
>Are there fill plugs in the rear deck for the shocks on a '70 midget?
>The Haynes manual is silent on this particular point. The DPO glued 
>the carpeting back there, an I don't want to pull it up unless there 
>are fill ports available.
>
>The good news,-- le Midget is back on the road.
>
>Thanks,
>Dave Ambrose

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Fri Jul 29 22:52:51 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:52:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OhSh!t - how bad is it ?
Message-ID: <4E338E23.6090604@croakingfrog.net>

OhSh!t on the Farm .... yeah boy..

Thanks to Trevor for the windscreen removal tips! Thank you!

OK, how bad is this guys. There's 8 or 9 photos of inner fender panel
rust. Reckon my big question is where do I start?

http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com/thumbnails.php?album=2

Chap.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 07:20:46 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:20:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
Message-ID: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

This is going to be one interesting bugeye with a supercharged Miata motor: 
http://www.brandysautobody.com/bugeye2.html

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 07:38:49 2011
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye Pt II
In-Reply-To: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1312033129.92974.YahooMailClassic@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

And a Ford V-8 bugeye from the same shop: 
http://www.brandysautobody.com/bugeye1.html  Beautiful fabrication

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sat, 7/30/11, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Subject: Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 9:20 AM

This is going to be one interesting bugeye with a supercharged Miata motor: 
http://www.brandysautobody.com/bugeye2.html

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 07:56:35 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:56:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHkEVvTAzgsFC3jPm_D-kfXoDoTMjqghwfDT96O==MfS69vthg@mail.gmail.com>

Brilliant body work.  I'm not so sure about the front suspension, but it
look like it will be a true show piece when finished.

-Trevor

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:20 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is going to be one interesting bugeye with a supercharged Miata motor:
> http://www.brandysautobody.com/bugeye2.html
>
> Rick
>
>
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
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>
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jul 30 08:17:46 2011
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:17:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye Pt II
In-Reply-To: <1312033129.92974.YahooMailClassic@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1312033129.92974.YahooMailClassic@web161213.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <352065871.20110730071746@pacifier.com>

Hello,

     I have a friend who did a V-8 conversion to Sprite back in the
     late '60s or early 70's. It too was a Ford IIRC. He said it wound
     up being nearly undriveable. The torque would roll the body just
     revving up, and the car couldn't be kept straight when they tried
     hard standing starts. (granted,he was a Hot Rodder looking for fast
     dragster ala the ALTERED class). The cars have too short of a wheel base for that kind
     of power. PLUS the handling was destroyed because the balance of
     the car was all out of whack. All the the characteristics of the
     car that we love so much were gone, except for the look.

     All that said, these are incredibly skillful examples.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Sat Jul 30 08:28:05 2011
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:28:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Filling rear shocks
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xq+0w55MsnqhFVKKQ+_oXWN0+5L0QPJWNdA-OeQroYQwTD=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E335A27.1060306@cox.net>
	<CA+Xq+0w55MsnqhFVKKQ+_oXWN0+5L0QPJWNdA-OeQroYQwTD=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E3414F5.401@cox.net>

On 7/29/2011 6:43 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:11 PM, David Ambrose<stargazer1 at cox.net>  wrote:
> Are there fill plugs in the rear deck for the shocks on a '70 midget?
> The Haynes manual is silent on this particular point. The DPO glued
> the carpeting back there, an I don't want to pull it up unless there
> are fill ports available.
> -----------------------------------
> Short answer, no. You do better by removing them to drain and fill.
> Might as well just get some Peter C. rebuilts if you're gonna pull
> them!
Thanks. I was hoping for a couple of body plugs like the MGB has. We'll 
remove the shocks and refill them after I get back from Toronto.I'm 
going to assume that after 40 years that draining and refilling with 
fresh oil would be a good thing.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From jfishbein at snet.net  Sat Jul 30 08:32:21 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:32:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <CAHkEVvTAzgsFC3jPm_D-kfXoDoTMjqghwfDT96O==MfS69vthg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAHkEVvTAzgsFC3jPm_D-kfXoDoTMjqghwfDT96O==MfS69vthg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1312036341.90003.YahooMailRC@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Beautiful work and lovely design.

But considering what the owner must have invested in this 
car......................

he could have had..............................

This! : http://www.caterham.co.uk/assets/html/showroom/superlightr500.html

 jay




________________________________
From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, July 30, 2011 9:56:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye

Brilliant body work.  I'm not so sure about the front suspension, but it
look like it will be a true show piece when finished.

-Trevor

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:20 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is going to be one interesting bugeye with a supercharged Miata motor:
> http://www.brandysautobody.com/bugeye2.html

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Jul 30 08:43:49 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:43:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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But... with all those changes, is it still a Bugeye??

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "HealeyRick" <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is going to be one interesting bugeye with a supercharged Miata
> motor:
> 
> http://www.brandysautobody.com/bugeye2.html

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 09:09:47 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:09:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
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References: <1312032046.21398.YahooMailClassic@web161211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<CAHkEVvTAzgsFC3jPm_D-kfXoDoTMjqghwfDT96O==MfS69vthg@mail.gmail.com>
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But many other people could have the same Caterham.  His/Her Bugeye will be
a one of a kind.

-Trevor

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> Beautiful work and lovely design.
>
> But considering what the owner must have invested in this
> car......................
>
> he could have had..............................
>
> This! : http://www.caterham.co.uk/assets/html/showroom/superlightr500.html
>
>  jay
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
> To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, July 30, 2011 9:56:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
>
> Brilliant body work.  I'm not so sure about the front suspension, but it
> look like it will be a true show piece when finished.
>
> -Trevor
>
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:20 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This is going to be one interesting bugeye with a supercharged Miata
> motor:
> > http://www.brandysautobody.com/bugeye2.html
> _______________________________________________
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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 30 09:11:02 2011
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:11:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>

I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and made 
this 4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race course with 
views both from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks Trevor for the 
use of your video.)

http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI

or

http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour

Enjoy

From jfishbein at snet.net  Sat Jul 30 09:30:07 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:30:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <1900050386.665977.1312037028994.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <1900050386.665977.1312037028994.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1312039807.36973.YahooMailRC@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

No.

 jay




________________________________
From: Dave KK7SS <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, July 30, 2011 10:43:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Most Excellent Modified Bugeye

But... with all those changes, is it still a Bugeye??

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 30 09:53:23 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:53:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>,
	<4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W41C3643953FDE6178302E9CA360@phx.gbl>

Lee
That is really great how you synced the two videos! I have never seen it done
like that before (but then I am nearly computer illiterate!).
BillM

> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:11:02 -0500
> From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
>
> I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and made
> this 4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race course with
> views both from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks Trevor for the
> use of your video.)
>
> http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour
>
> Enjoy
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jul 30 11:52:46 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:52:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <795993175.748814.1312048331997.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1569912139.748818.1312048366898.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

In addition to a broken neck, I now also have five freshly separated ribs. I don't foresee myself driving Madge at any time in the reasonable future, and she is just too nice to allow to sit and deteriorate. I will not be able to put my Comanche back together without more money than I presently have access to, so Madge Midget is looking for a home where she will be loved and appreciated as much as she has been with me.

She is a 1972 RWA with a fresh 1275 and ribcase. The engine has about 4000 miles and the gearbox about 1000. No oil leaks anywhere. She has never been wrecked, but had a car roll into a front fender. It was replaced with a good one off my parts car, and the difference in paint color is barely noticeable if the light is right.

She has rebuilt and freshly covered Bugeye seats, roll bar, 1962 chrome grille, and the early two piece tail lights. A new black top, still in the package, comes with her, as does a hood cover and slightly munched tonneau cover. Any extra parts I have lurking about will also be included.

Pictures, pre tail light, are available on Just Ed's site. I am not able to take more at the present time. She is a solid, very driveable car that also looks good, despite a few rick chips. 

Make me a decent offer and she's yours to drive home. I would drive this car to the east coast and back without hesitation.

Kate

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Jul 30 14:35:17 2011
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:35:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <1569912139.748818.1312048366898.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <1569912139.748818.1312048366898.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <C16149D2-8AFB-4458-B6C6-A840E5CA2DCB@comcast.net>

I must not be getting all the emails..  Broken neck???

Lester


On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:52 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> In addition to a broken neck, I now also have five freshly separated ribs. I
don't foresee myself driving Madge at any time in the reasonable future, and
she is just too nice to allow to sit and deteriorate. I will not be able to
put my Comanche back together without more money than I presently have access
to, so Madge Midget is looking for a home where she will be loved and
appreciated as much as she has been with me.
>
> She is a 1972 RWA with a fresh 1275 and ribcase. The engine has about 4000
miles and the gearbox about 1000. No oil leaks anywhere. She has never been
wrecked, but had a car roll into a front fender. It was replaced with a good
one off my parts car, and the difference in paint color is barely noticeable
if the light is right.
>
> She has rebuilt and freshly covered Bugeye seats, roll bar, 1962 chrome
grille, and the early two piece tail lights. A new black top, still in the
package, comes with her, as does a hood cover and slightly munched tonneau
cover. Any extra parts I have lurking about will also be included.
>
> Pictures, pre tail light, are available on Just Ed's site. I am not able to
take more at the present time. She is a solid, very driveable car that also
looks good, despite a few rick chips.
>
> Make me a decent offer and she's yours to drive home. I would drive this car
to the east coast and back without hesitation.
>
> Kate
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From lmacy at mac.com  Sat Jul 30 14:40:58 2011
From: lmacy at mac.com (Macy Larry)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:40:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>

I thought it was cute how he cut it off just as Trevor was passing him ;-)

But I never saw me :-(

Larry

On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lee Fox wrote:

> I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and made this
4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race course with views both
from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks Trevor for the use of your
video.)
>
> http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour
>
> Enjoy
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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--
Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy at upenn.edu
Senior IT Program Director
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for windows or
gates?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jul 30 14:46:31 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:46:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <262180762.750312.1312058621364.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1945653857.750338.1312058791562.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

I rolled my nearly restored Jeep Comanche two weeks ago today in an attempt to avoid an elk that popped up out of a gulch right in front of me. He is re-restorable with a lot of work and more parts, such as a complete cab or most of a Cherokee body, than my shelves can hold, but my daughter is willing to help me with the project.

The separated ribs transpired when I fell off the ramp in front of my house Wednesday night. Needless to say, I am not moving well at all right now.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: "Spridgets Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:35:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered

I must not be getting all the emails..  Broken neck???

Lester


On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:52 PM, kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> In addition to a broken neck, I now also have five freshly separated ribs. I don't foresee myself driving Madge at any time in the reasonable future, and she is just too nice to allow to sit and deteriorate. I will not be able to put my Comanche back together without more money than I presently have access to, so Madge Midget is looking for a home where she will be loved and appreciated as much as she has been with me.
> 
> She is a 1972 RWA with a fresh 1275 and ribcase. The engine has about 4000 miles and the gearbox about 1000. No oil leaks anywhere. She has never been wrecked, but had a car roll into a front fender. It was replaced with a good one off my parts car, and the difference in paint color is barely noticeable if the light is right.
> 
> She has rebuilt and freshly covered Bugeye seats, roll bar, 1962 chrome grille, and the early two piece tail lights. A new black top, still in the package, comes with her, as does a hood cover and slightly munched tonneau cover. Any extra parts I have lurking about will also be included.
> 
> Pictures, pre tail light, are available on Just Ed's site. I am not able to take more at the present time. She is a solid, very driveable car that also looks good, despite a few rick chips. 
> 
> Make me a decent offer and she's yours to drive home. I would drive this car to the east coast and back without hesitation.
> 
> Kate
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 30 14:57:53 2011
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:57:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
	<5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>

Cute? No, but this video was all about ME! :)
We all saw enough of the back end of Trevor's car that week.

I did, however, see some old guy in a station wagon go by me at 16:42 on 
the full length video (last item on my Picasa link.)
Was that you??? :)

On 7/30/2011 3:40 PM, Macy Larry wrote:
> I thought it was cute how he cut it off just as Trevor was passing him ;-)
>
> But I never saw me :-(
>
> Larry
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lee Fox wrote:
>
>> I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and made this 4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race course with views both from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks Trevor for the use of your video.)
>>
>> http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour
>>
>> Enjoy
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Jul 30 16:27:36 2011
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:27:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
	<5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>
	<4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4E348558.6050703@wi.net>

Very well done Lee!  Archive for sure!  I, too, was waiting for Trevor 
to pass you...very well thought out. ;-)

Dave W.



On 7/30/2011 3:57 PM, Lee Fox wrote:
> Cute? No, but this video was all about ME! :)
> We all saw enough of the back end of Trevor's car that week.
>
> I did, however, see some old guy in a station wagon go by me at 16:42 
> on the full length video (last item on my Picasa link.)
> Was that you??? :)
>
> On 7/30/2011 3:40 PM, Macy Larry wrote:
>> I thought it was cute how he cut it off just as Trevor was passing 
>> him ;-)
>>
>> But I never saw me :-(
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lee Fox wrote:
>>
>>> I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and 
>>> made this 4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race 
>>> course with views both from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks 
>>> Trevor for the use of your video.)
>>>
>>> http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour
>>>
>>> Enjoy
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com
> _______________________________________________
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 16:38:39 2011
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:38:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <1945653857.750338.1312058791562.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <262180762.750312.1312058621364.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<1945653857.750338.1312058791562.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAEAAx7-ECT6RX1GYfMOgC30oLBf2eaTZFw6f8j0m3uDKmMhocA@mail.gmail.com>

You should try and stick to one disaster at a time.  Hope you feel better.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 30 16:39:50 2011
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:39:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net><4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net><5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>
	<4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <FF0EF0F17F844B6198547C9E44B4C6CB@HomePC>

Trevor, your camera mount is rock steady.  What did you use?




-----Original Message----- 
From: Lee Fox
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:57 PM
To: Macy Larry
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour

Cute? No, but this video was all about ME! :)
We all saw enough of the back end of Trevor's car that week.

I did, however, see some old guy in a station wagon go by me at 16:42 on
the full length video (last item on my Picasa link.)
Was that you??? :)

On 7/30/2011 3:40 PM, Macy Larry wrote:
> I thought it was cute how he cut it off just as Trevor was passing him ;-)
>
> But I never saw me :-(
>
> Larry
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lee Fox wrote:
>
>> I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and made 
>> this 4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race course with 
>> views both from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks Trevor for the use 
>> of your video.)
>>
>> http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour
>>
>> Enjoy
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at mac.com
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
Unsubscribe/Manage: 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net 

From aseippel at austin.rr.com  Sat Jul 30 17:02:42 2011
From: aseippel at austin.rr.com (Jim Seippel)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:02:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <1945653857.750338.1312058791562.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <262180762.750312.1312058621364.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<1945653857.750338.1312058791562.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <00d801cc4f0c$c98cee00$5ca6ca00$@rr.com>

Maybe you could move to the Austin, TX area. With your luck, you could lure
a Hurricane ashore and we could get  some much needed rain. 

Since trouble usually comes in threes, be VERY careful.  
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgb at frontiernet.net
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:47 PM
Cc: Spridgets Group
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered

I rolled my nearly restored Jeep Comanche two weeks ago today in an attempt
to avoid an elk that popped up out of a gulch right in front of me. He is
re-restorable with a lot of work and more parts, such as a complete cab or
most of a Cherokee body, than my shelves can hold, but my daughter is
willing to help me with the project.

The separated ribs transpired when I fell off the ramp in front of my house
Wednesday night. Needless to say, I am not moving well at all right now.

Kate

From nases at verizon.net  Sat Jul 30 17:40:07 2011
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:40:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <FF0EF0F17F844B6198547C9E44B4C6CB@HomePC>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
	<5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>
	<4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
	<FF0EF0F17F844B6198547C9E44B4C6CB@HomePC>
Message-ID: <2114CD47-6E24-4919-8F80-EC4C03779796@verizon.net>

I'm wondering the same thing. And was it trevor's utube vid or someone else's
linked from the the spridgets site that looked like it was mounted on the
door?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Jul 30, 2011, at 6:39 PM, "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Trevor, your camera mount is rock steady.  What did you use?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Fox
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: Macy Larry
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
>
> Cute? No, but this video was all about ME! :)
> We all saw enough of the back end of Trevor's car that week.
>
> I did, however, see some old guy in a station wagon go by me at 16:42 on
> the full length video (last item on my Picasa link.)
> Was that you??? :)
>
> On 7/30/2011 3:40 PM, Macy Larry wrote:
>> I thought it was cute how he cut it off just as Trevor was passing him ;-)
>>
>> But I never saw me :-(
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lee Fox wrote:
>>
>>> I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and made
>>> this 4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race course with
>>> views both from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks Trevor for the use
>>> of your video.)
>>>
>>> http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour
>>>
>>> Enjoy
>>> _______________________________________________
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 18:16:43 2011
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:16:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
In-Reply-To: <FF0EF0F17F844B6198547C9E44B4C6CB@HomePC>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net><4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net><5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>
	<4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
	<FF0EF0F17F844B6198547C9E44B4C6CB@HomePC>
Message-ID: <1AE6D643-3AE3-4F35-9E27-FC37F3C2545F@gmail.com>

The camera is just a flip video type camera clamped under the dash  
rail with some scrap aluminum. The steadiness comes from well balanced  
tires and a smooth track.

Trevor Jessie
(Typed on a tiny keyboard with fat fingers!)



On Jul 30, 2011, at 6:39 PM, "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>  
wrote:

> Trevor, your camera mount is rock steady.  What did you use?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Fox
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: Macy Larry
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Road America Track Tour
>
> Cute? No, but this video was all about ME! :)
> We all saw enough of the back end of Trevor's car that week.
>
> I did, however, see some old guy in a station wagon go by me at  
> 16:42 on
> the full length video (last item on my Picasa link.)
> Was that you??? :)
>
> On 7/30/2011 3:40 PM, Macy Larry wrote:
>> I thought it was cute how he cut it off just as Trevor was passing  
>> him ;-)
>>
>> But I never saw me :-(
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Lee Fox wrote:
>>
>>> I've been playing a little with the video I shot in Wisconsin and  
>>> made
>>> this 4:34 minute video of my drive on the Road America race course  
>>> with
>>> views both from inside my car and from behind. (Thanks Trevor for  
>>> the use
>>> of your video.)
>>>
>>> http://youtu.be/nRyFdWezHBI
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/TrackTour
>>>
>>> Enjoy
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sat Jul 30 19:35:49 2011
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:35:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 74 midget with K&N filters
Message-ID: <1178638814.67525.1312076149616.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Does anybody else have these?B  I have just lost my second filter in a year.B 
The spot welds on the spacer that attaches to the carbs breaks off and sends
the cover and the filter into the space between the inner fender and my stee
ring column.B  I think this might be due to very tight clearances between the
bonnet and the top of the filter but it has happened on the front this time
and the rear last time.



Anybody else have this experience?

Ryan

From sethamosjones at gmail.com  Sat Jul 30 19:40:28 2011
From: sethamosjones at gmail.com (Seth Jones)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:40:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] GAN6 "Consumer Information Booklet" from British
 Leyland, What  is it's story?
In-Reply-To: <4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net>
	<5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com>
	<4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <079B45C3-1CF0-4AEE-AE93-B37485E9223A@gmail.com>

I found the following on Ebay

http://www.spridgetguru.com/MGMdgtZneArt_files/AKM3252_2ndED.pdf

I can't quite understand why the factory printed it or who it would  
have been distributed to.  Any Ideas?

-seth

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Jul 30 20:42:50 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 02:42:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] GAN6 "Consumer Information Booklet" from British
 Leyland, What  is it's story?
In-Reply-To: <079B45C3-1CF0-4AEE-AE93-B37485E9223A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <693360666.670768.1312080170565.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

These sort of numbers were typically published in reviews appearing in "Autocar" and "Motor". UK magazines which I think have long been defunct :(

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sat Jul 30 20:46:44 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 02:46:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 74 midget with K&N filters
In-Reply-To: <1022212621.670778.1312080251259.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1150288403.670808.1312080404112.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

The 4" deep K&N's don't fit too well - they hit the hood!.
The 1.5", 2.75" and the short conicals' fit with no problems.

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> Does anybody else have these?B  I have just lost my second filter in a
> year.B
> 
> The spot welds on the spacer that attaches to the carbs breaks off and
> sends
> 
> the cover and the filter into the space between the inner fender and
> my stee
> 
> ring column.B  I think this might be due to very tight clearances
> between the
> 
> bonnet and the top of the filter but it has happened on the front this
> time
> 
> and the rear last time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anybody else have this experience?
> 
> 
> 
> Ryan

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sat Jul 30 21:49:14 2011
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:49:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 74 midget with K&N filters
References: <1178638814.67525.1312076149616.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5867F0B684104C6886985CAB33143059@Dell9200>

Ryan,

APT has a filter that centers on the SU's and doesn't rely on the welded 
mount.  They are SS and use the 1.5 K&N element.  I have used them on both a 
70 Midget and my Bugeye and they don't hit the bonnet.

Mark
Nashville


Does anybody else have these?B  I have just lost my second filter in a 
year.B
The spot welds on the spacer that attaches to the carbs breaks off and sends
the cover and the filter into the space between the inner fender and my stee
ring column.B  I think this might be due to very tight clearances between 
the
bonnet and the top of the filter but it has happened on the front this time
and the rear last time.



Anybody else have this experience?

Ryan
_______________________________________________

From grday at btinternet.com  Sat Jul 30 23:34:08 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 06:34:08 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] GAN6 "Consumer Information Booklet" from British
 Leyland, What  is it's story?
References: <mailman.26263.1312034208.3301.spridgets@autox.team.net><4E341F06.7090705@sbcglobal.net><5F34C6DA-0499-4445-9EAD-34F65E25E90C@mac.com><4E347051.6010606@sbcglobal.net>
	<079B45C3-1CF0-4AEE-AE93-B37485E9223A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <69D4009ACB454A97A4EEDCC3FDBCFF34@user8634b3d69b>

Seth,
This was wonderful to read and if you (or others) have access to any more 
like that please send them across....

Dave G.
Autocar is still produced and claims to be the world's oldest motor 
magazine.


Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Seth Jones" <sethamosjones at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] GAN6 "Consumer Information Booklet" from British 
Leyland, What is it's story?


>I found the following on Ebay
>
> http://www.spridgetguru.com/MGMdgtZneArt_files/AKM3252_2ndED.pdf
>
> I can't quite understand why the factory printed it or who it would
> have been distributed to.  Any Ideas?
>
> -seth
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Jul 31 08:43:37 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:43:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <00d801cc4f0c$c98cee00$5ca6ca00$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <2142028672.755635.1312123417839.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

If I were to move to Austin, all your local contractors would be asking how many feet are in a cubit.

Kate


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Seippel" <aseippel at austin.rr.com>
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: "Spridgets Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:02:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered

Maybe you could move to the Austin, TX area. With your luck, you could lure
a Hurricane ashore and we could get  some much needed rain. 

Since trouble usually comes in threes, be VERY careful.  
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgb at frontiernet.net
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:47 PM
Cc: Spridgets Group
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered

I rolled my nearly restored Jeep Comanche two weeks ago today in an attempt
to avoid an elk that popped up out of a gulch right in front of me. He is
re-restorable with a lot of work and more parts, such as a complete cab or
most of a Cherokee body, than my shelves can hold, but my daughter is
willing to help me with the project.

The separated ribs transpired when I fell off the ramp in front of my house
Wednesday night. Needless to say, I am not moving well at all right now.

Kate

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Jul 31 08:47:52 2011
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (kgb at frontiernet.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:47:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <CAEAAx7-ECT6RX1GYfMOgC30oLBf2eaTZFw6f8j0m3uDKmMhocA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <104130715.755671.1312123672320.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>

I'm just glad that my doctor sent me what would normally be a five year supply of pain pills before the FDA banned them.

Kate

----- Original Message -----
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: "Spridgets Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:38:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered

You should try and stick to one disaster at a time.  Hope you feel better.

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 31 09:43:46 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:43:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <2142028672.755635.1312123417839.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <243961659.673198.1312127026502.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Wouldn't that forearms??

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> If I were to move to Austin, all your local contractors would be
> asking how many feet are in a cubit.

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 31 09:47:42 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:47:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] GAN6 "Consumer Information Booklet" from British
 Leyland, What  is it's story?
In-Reply-To: <69D4009ACB454A97A4EEDCC3FDBCFF34@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <1683132110.673227.1312127262770.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Fabulous..
In my teens, I would save up my paper route money to buy Motor and Autocar and drool...
Do they still do those wonderful cut-away drawings?
That's what got me into this mess in the first place... them, and Brands Hatch!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Autocar is still produced and claims to be the world's oldest motor
> magazine.

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Sun Jul 31 10:07:01 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:07:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSh!t On The Farm
In-Reply-To: <4E2EDBC3.8040005@croakingfrog.net>
References: <4E2EC7D0.7000806@croakingfrog.net>
	<CAHkEVvTgHmCC50LTSJN84YxKFEAKUwW=2Bn5NJyE33hEEQNgPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E2EDBC3.8040005@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <4E357DA5.8030900@croakingfrog.net>

Well, with more rust than I thought I can't cry. So what else to do?
....  write a tune ...  :)

http://www.chapmanjones.com/mp3/MG-Song-2.mp3
(to the melody of Triangle Triangle by Gordon Lightfoot ... fitting! )

You're my little MG and you know how to please
Got a heart just as big as the world
Turn my frown to a smile when I drive you a mile
Keep my big old toes in a curl

Your skin is so crusty and yer bones might be rusty
But your cute as a button to me
I'll give ya some paint and they'll be no complaints
And you'll shine like a star on the sea
 
When your top is dropped you make my hair flop
I always love the cool breeze
You've got so much class I'll give you the gas
And run circles around all those "B's"

When you hit a straight road and you get up and go
There's nothing can hold you back
And you never lose nerve when you find a good curve
When you're cruising off the old beaten track

You make my blood rush when we double clutch
And your rev's start winding up tight
When your breathing gets fast it's oh such a blast
I don't know if I can last all night

No matter the weather we're always together
You're tuned and set for the run
Every gear in your box is sly like a fox
No one should have this much fun

You're my little british car and you'll take me afar
Away from the troubles of life
You tickle my fancy will you be my fiancee
Cause I'd sure like to make you my wife

When the day is complete, I'll nod off to sleep
Under the moon and the stars
I'll give my MG a warm little squeeze
And dream of her tight in my arms
 
You're my little MG and you know how to please
Got a heart just as big as the world
Turn my frown to a smile when I drive you a mile
Keep my big old toes in a curl

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 31 11:04:56 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:04:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered
In-Reply-To: <243961659.673198.1312127026502.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <2142028672.755635.1312123417839.JavaMail.root@cl01-host01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
	<243961659.673198.1312127026502.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <E67F0281D2F941968BEEBBFAEE3BBB7B@spider>

Aye.  " A cubit is the first recorded unit of length[citation needed] and
was one of many different standards of measurement used through history. It
was originally based on measuring by comparing to one's forearm length. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit

====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave KK7SS
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:44 AM
To: kgb at frontiernet.net
Cc: Spridgets Group
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Reluctantly Offered

Wouldn't that forearms??

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- kgb at frontiernet.net wrote:

> If I were to move to Austin, all your local contractors would be
> asking how many feet are in a cubit.
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Jul 31 11:49:31 2011
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:49:31 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] GAN6 "Consumer Information Booklet" from British
 Leyland, What  is it's story?
References: <1683132110.673227.1312127262770.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <A683D81B374D40E78DD948F10F8D957C@user8634b3d69b>

http://www.themagazineshop.com/all-titles/autocar?offer=WNAV11

or

http://www.Autocar.co.uk

6 copies for one UK pound!  You can't afford to miss it....

NFI and I don't read it.

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave KK7SS" <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com>; "spridgets_autox.team.net" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] GAN6 "Consumer Information Booklet" from British 
Leyland, What is it's story?


> Fabulous..
> In my teens, I would save up my paper route money to buy Motor and Autocar 
> and drool...
> Do they still do those wonderful cut-away drawings?
> That's what got me into this mess in the first place... them, and Brands 
> Hatch!
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
> Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - in process :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>
> ----- "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Autocar is still produced and claims to be the world's oldest motor
>> magazine.

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Jul 31 12:23:27 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:23:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
Message-ID: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

I know I've said many times on this list that I'm about to put the new panels in my car, but I just took the air chisel to it so this time I mean it!
I've braced the door openings with a 2x6 and another between the two. The car currently sits on wheel dollys. I have removed one outer sill, the driver's side. The floors and outer sills are badly rusted. I will replace floors, both inner and outer sills, pillars, and many additional patches. 
Many have suggested rolling the car to its side, but I question the stresses on the car. Does anyone have thoughts on the best order of replacement, and how to approach the task?
My repair manual indicates that it is best to do floors with the car resting on the ground. I have very little good metal and little strength, with few places to weld to in the early steps. I don't want the car to crack like an egg. 
Thanks for the help!
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 12:49:35 2011
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:49:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OhSh!t - how bad is it ?
References: <4E338E23.6090604@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <1660BA2544B94FF4BB66F69212C2901D@Inspiron>

Hey Chap,

It looks like your Midget has already bought the farm with all that mega 
rust, it will be cheaper in the long run to try and find a donor body. They 
are out there, you have to be patient until one pops up on eBay, or one of 
the other lists.

Greg Higgins
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <lcjones at croakingfrog.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:52 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] OhSh!t - how bad is it ?


> OhSh!t on the Farm .... yeah boy..
>
> Thanks to Trevor for the windscreen removal tips! Thank you!
>
> OK, how bad is this guys. There's 8 or 9 photos of inner fender panel
> rust. Reckon my big question is where do I start?
>
> http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com/thumbnails.php?album=2
>
> Chap.
> _______________________________________________

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 13:09:16 2011
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:09:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th story for MOWOG
Message-ID: <CABWjhcLkhm=SZjgQSk6BNZBHJQrkTAseoh7ZGuHV06iw3734CA@mail.gmail.com>

I was asked to submit something after the trip for printing in our club
magazine the MOWOG.
I wrote it up and of course it's about 5 (ok more like 10) times too long.
There's just so much to say about the 11 day trip, too much for one page.
The editor has offered to slash, rip, gut, and tear out most of it but says
she will try to retain the best bits - those that made her smile or she
thought were witty.
Suggestions?
I'm inclined to just let her do her editing thing then not read it when it
comes out so as to avoid any negativity on my part, then graciously and
politely say "thank you".

Rick (SQL scriptwriter, but no author) Bastedo

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 31 13:09:18 2011
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:09:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>

Drew
What year is your car?

> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:23:27 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
>
> I know I've said many times on this list that I'm about to put the new
panels in my car, but I just took the air chisel to it so this time I mean
it!
> I've braced the door openings with a 2x6 and another between the two. The
car currently sits on wheel dollys. I have removed one outer sill, the
driver's side. The floors and outer sills are badly rusted. I will replace
floors, both inner and outer sills, pillars, and many additional patches.
> Many have suggested rolling the car to its side, but I question the stresses
on the car. Does anyone have thoughts on the best order of replacement, and
how to approach the task?
> My repair manual indicates that it is best to do floors with the car resting
on the ground. I have very little good metal and little strength, with few
places to weld to in the early steps. I don't want the car to crack like an
egg.
> Thanks for the help!
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> _______________________________________________
>
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 31 13:16:04 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:16:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Autocar (was 'GAN6 consumer... )
In-Reply-To: <1692821676.674941.1312139658127.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1614357166.674958.1312139764864.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Guy,

Thanks.... but no thanks ...   Sob, Sob !!
Why?
Our (stateside) "Special Deal" is $135 for 6 issues... 
I'll have to pass on that :-(

Dang it! 

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Jul 31 13:37:22 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:37:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry><SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

It is a 76. Kent came through a few months back and told me that most people scrap cars in the condition that mine is in!
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:09:18 
To: spridget list<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!

Drew
What year is your car?

> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:23:27 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
>
> I know I've said many times on this list that I'm about to put the new
panels in my car, but I just took the air chisel to it so this time I mean
it!
> I've braced the door openings with a 2x6 and another between the two. The
car currently sits on wheel dollys. I have removed one outer sill, the
driver's side. The floors and outer sills are badly rusted. I will replace
floors, both inner and outer sills, pillars, and many additional patches.
> Many have suggested rolling the car to its side, but I question the stresses
on the car. Does anyone have thoughts on the best order of replacement, and
how to approach the task?
> My repair manual indicates that it is best to do floors with the car resting
on the ground. I have very little good metal and little strength, with few
places to weld to in the early steps. I don't want the car to crack like an
egg.
> Thanks for the help!
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> _______________________________________________
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 15:18:41 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:18:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Kent was right.  I haven't seen your car, of course, but from your concerns
I'm willing to bet your best bet is to strip what you can use off the tub,
get a used tub in better condition and build it up into your car.  If you
are worried about the car splitting open when rolled over, it is already too
far gone to save unless you are a true masochist.

Decent bodies are not THAT hard to find!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:

> It is a 76. Kent came through a few months back and told me that most
> people scrap cars in the condition that mine is in!
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:09:18
> To: spridget list<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
>
> Drew
> What year is your car?
>
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
> > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:23:27 +0000
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
> >
> > I know I've said many times on this list that I'm about to put the new
> panels in my car, but I just took the air chisel to it so this time I mean
> it!
> > I've braced the door openings with a 2x6 and another between the two. The
> car currently sits on wheel dollys. I have removed one outer sill, the
> driver's side. The floors and outer sills are badly rusted. I will replace
> floors, both inner and outer sills, pillars, and many additional patches.
> > Many have suggested rolling the car to its side, but I question the
> stresses
> on the car. Does anyone have thoughts on the best order of replacement, and
> how to approach the task?
> > My repair manual indicates that it is best to do floors with the car
> resting
> on the ground. I have very little good metal and little strength, with few
> places to weld to in the early steps. I don't want the car to crack like an
> egg.
> > Thanks for the help!
> > Drew
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 15:23:11 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:23:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th story for MOWOG
In-Reply-To: <CABWjhcLkhm=SZjgQSk6BNZBHJQrkTAseoh7ZGuHV06iw3734CA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcLkhm=SZjgQSk6BNZBHJQrkTAseoh7ZGuHV06iw3734CA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJgjnupAES-imGAiJpq3==ALjm9P6xDeNsDf55Vyd81qW3xuSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

Let the editor have at it.  Anyone who has written articles can share lots
of stories with you on having their best stuff end up on the editorial
floor.  It's just the way it goes.  It is a true art to be able to sum up a
3 day event in one page of print and do so accurately. That's why good
journalists are so hard to find...   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was asked to submit something after the trip for printing in our club
> magazine the MOWOG.
> I wrote it up and of course it's about 5 (ok more like 10) times too long.
> There's just so much to say about the 11 day trip, too much for one page.
> The editor has offered to slash, rip, gut, and tear out most of it but says
> she will try to retain the best bits - those that made her smile or she
> thought were witty.
> Suggestions?
> I'm inclined to just let her do her editing thing then not read it when it
> comes out so as to avoid any negativity on my part, then graciously and
> politely say "thank you".
>
> Rick (SQL scriptwriter, but no author) Bastedo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Sun Jul 31 16:51:08 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:51:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E35DC5C.4060204@croakingfrog.net>

That's twice I've read to wait for a better tub today. From your
description, sounds like we're, if not in the same boat, at least
sailing the same lake. No doubt words of experience and probably wisdom
too. But what the heck, waiting for a "better" tub kinda takes the fun
out of things. Doesn't it. :)

Chap
******


On 7/31/2011 5:18 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
> Kent was right.  I haven't seen your car, of course, but from your concerns
> I'm willing to bet your best bet is to strip what you can use off the tub,
> get a used tub in better condition and build it up into your car.  If you
> are worried about the car splitting open when rolled over, it is already too
> far gone to save unless you are a true masochist.
>
> Decent bodies are not THAT hard to find!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:
>
>> It is a 76. Kent came through a few months back and told me that most
>> people scrap cars in the condition that mine is in!
>> Drew
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
>> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:09:18
>> To: spridget list<spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
>>
>> Drew
>> What year is your car?
>>
>>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>>> From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:23:27 +0000
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
>>>
>>> I know I've said many times on this list that I'm about to put the new
>> panels in my car, but I just took the air chisel to it so this time I mean
>> it!
>>> I've braced the door openings with a 2x6 and another between the two. The
>> car currently sits on wheel dollys. I have removed one outer sill, the
>> driver's side. The floors and outer sills are badly rusted. I will replace
>> floors, both inner and outer sills, pillars, and many additional patches.
>>> Many have suggested rolling the car to its side, but I question the
>> stresses
>> on the car. Does anyone have thoughts on the best order of replacement, and
>> how to approach the task?
>>> My repair manual indicates that it is best to do floors with the car
>> resting
>> on the ground. I have very little good metal and little strength, with few
>> places to weld to in the early steps. I don't want the car to crack like an
>> egg.
>>> Thanks for the help!
>>> Drew
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/billmasq at hotmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Jul 31 16:54:00 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:54:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84784A2311004E3AA329D4E42E540516@Home>

> Decent bodies are not THAT hard to find!

Uh....At our age, where should we look?

Michael Rowe

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Sun Jul 31 17:05:53 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:05:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....
Message-ID: <4E35DFD1.3010505@croakingfrog.net>

I have no clue .... any carb experts out there? Removed carbs in prep
for engine pull .... What in the world is this?

http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com/thumbnails.php?album=9

Chap

From rich_ball at mindspring.com  Sun Jul 31 17:35:41 2011
From: rich_ball at mindspring.com (Richard Ball)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:35:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th story for MOWOG
In-Reply-To: <CAJgjnupAES-imGAiJpq3==ALjm9P6xDeNsDf55Vyd81qW3xuSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABWjhcLkhm=SZjgQSk6BNZBHJQrkTAseoh7ZGuHV06iw3734CA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJgjnupAES-imGAiJpq3==ALjm9P6xDeNsDf55Vyd81qW3xuSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B3A063F4D474A05B02AC1F6FA8F36C0@RichandSusanPC>

Hey Rick

Bev is pretty good at the editing thing and has done a good job on the
MOWOG.  I would say this though, if there is something you really want left
in I would tell her.  Since she wasn't there and does not know about us on
this list she may cut something you think should be left in.  She has also
has told me in the past that she can spread things out over more than one
issue if needed.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:23 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th story for MOWOG

Rick,

Let the editor have at it.  Anyone who has written articles can share lots
of stories with you on having their best stuff end up on the editorial
floor.  It's just the way it goes.  It is a true art to be able to sum up a
3 day event in one page of print and do so accurately. That's why good
journalists are so hard to find...   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was asked to submit something after the trip for printing in our club
> magazine the MOWOG.
> I wrote it up and of course it's about 5 (ok more like 10) times too long.
> There's just so much to say about the 11 day trip, too much for one page.
> The editor has offered to slash, rip, gut, and tear out most of it but
says
> she will try to retain the best bits - those that made her smile or she
> thought were witty.
> Suggestions?
> I'm inclined to just let her do her editing thing then not read it when it
> comes out so as to avoid any negativity on my part, then graciously and
> politely say "thank you".
>
> Rick (SQL scriptwriter, but no author) Bastedo
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 17:31:24 2011
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:31:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <4E35DC5C.4060204@croakingfrog.net>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E35DC5C.4060204@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <-4038915897003397969@unknownmsgid>

> That's twice I've read to wait for a better tub today. From your
> description, sounds like we're, if not in the same boat, at least
> sailing the same lake. No doubt words of experience and probably wisdom
> too. But what the heck, waiting for a "better" tub kinda takes the fun
> out of things. Doesn't it. :)


The cold hard economic fact is that the suggested approach is cheaper
if your time is worth anything. Another fact is that there is nothing
like a major project to cause people to give up and throw the whole
thing away. Yes, there are people who complete projects like this, but
the odds aren't so good.
David L

From jfishbein at snet.net  Sun Jul 31 19:04:34 2011
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:04:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <4E35DC5C.4060204@croakingfrog.net>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E35DC5C.4060204@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <1312160674.67019.YahooMailRC@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

You have just exposed the basis of Spridgetdom.

Rather than buy a good car for X, buy a car that needs everything for a fraction 
of X and spend the difference, plus more money getting it to somewhere close to 
the first car. 


 jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: "lcjones at croakingfrog.net" <lcjones at croakingfrog.net>

But what the heck, waiting for a "better" tub kinda takes the funout of things. 
Doesn't it. :)

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 31 19:05:35 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:05:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....
In-Reply-To: <4E35DFD1.3010505@croakingfrog.net>
References: <4E35DFD1.3010505@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <8DA35B0420EE4132B6C37800246150B9@spider>

I will guess you have had a mouse living in there. What is the debris
composed of? There's too much of it to be corrosion. ...bill in corvallis
=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lcjones at croakingfrog.net
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:06 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....

I have no clue .... any carb experts out there? Removed carbs in prep
for engine pull .... What in the world is this?

http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com/thumbnails.php?album=9

Chap
_______________________________________________

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 31 19:05:55 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 01:05:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....
In-Reply-To: <4E35DFD1.3010505@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <2081618533.677852.1312160755335.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Mice!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- lcjones at croakingfrog.net wrote:

> I have no clue .... any carb experts out there? Removed carbs in prep
> 
> for engine pull .... What in the world is this?
> 
> 
> 
> http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com/thumbnails.php?album=9
> 
> 
> 
> Chap

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 31 19:10:08 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:10:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <84784A2311004E3AA329D4E42E540516@Home>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry><SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl><1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry><CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<84784A2311004E3AA329D4E42E540516@Home>
Message-ID: <7DCFEA2640E64C5F8B588D796D93A677@spider>

eBay?  

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 3:54 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!

> Decent bodies are not THAT hard to find!

Uh....At our age, where should we look?

Michael Rowe
_______________________________________________

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 31 19:33:06 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 01:33:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Brake Beehive Spring question
Message-ID: <2130925882.678093.1312162386251.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Just Slightly O-T.

The rear brakes for my Morris Minor are similar, if not the same, as on the Bug-eye (1959)

My question is about those %$#% Beehive Springs,
Lindsay Porters' Restoration Manual says the Professional restorers (The Minor Center, Bath, UK) say it's ok to omit them! BL's Workshop Manual mentions removing them but not refitting them!

I've been fighting to fit the first one of these all day long and I'm ready to quit!

For those that have fitted the beehive springs,,
Do you try to feed the small end in from the back of the shoe?
Or screw the big end in from the front of the shoe?

I'm ready to just forget about them!!

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Jul 31 19:47:21 2011
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:47:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <7DCFEA2640E64C5F8B588D796D93A677@spider>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<84784A2311004E3AA329D4E42E540516@Home>
	<7DCFEA2640E64C5F8B588D796D93A677@spider>
Message-ID: <9953687C72C445AD8DE15FFF8A20CE52@Home>

Uh....again..................I don't think eBay allows that sort of thing. 
Craig's List kicked them off recently, also.

Michael Rowe



> eBay?
>
>> Decent bodies are not THAT hard to find!
>
> Uh....At our age, where should we look?

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 31 19:51:39 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:51:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <9953687C72C445AD8DE15FFF8A20CE52@Home>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<84784A2311004E3AA329D4E42E540516@Home>
	<7DCFEA2640E64C5F8B588D796D93A677@spider>
	<9953687C72C445AD8DE15FFF8A20CE52@Home>
Message-ID: <72912ABBB73B496DAC41360E793184AB@spider>

Maybe a dating service? What are the kids using these days??

 

=======================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Rowe [mailto:mdrowe at optonline.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:47 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!

 

Uh....again..................I don't think eBay allows that sort of thing. 

Craig's List kicked them off recently, also.

 

Michael Rowe

 

======================================

> eBay?

>===================================

>> Decent bodies are not THAT hard to find!

> 

> Uh....At our age, where should we look?

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Sun Jul 31 20:18:51 2011
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:18:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....
In-Reply-To: <2081618533.677852.1312160755335.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <2081618533.677852.1312160755335.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4E360D0B.3040709@croakingfrog.net>

I don't think it was mice, though I did have to house clean the glove
box. It was a white powdery substance. I didn't know to call the DHS or
the DEA. I blew it out. Later I saw the cat chasing butterflies and
thought, well, that's odd. By the way, I had sealed the carb throats
with duct tape a number of years ago. Duct tape was still intact and
doing it's job. Love that duct tape. Unless there's a back door to the
carbs.


Chap


On 7/31/2011 9:05 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> Mice!
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>  Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - in process :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>
> ----- lcjones at croakingfrog.net wrote:
>
>> I have no clue .... any carb experts out there? Removed carbs in prep
>>
>> for engine pull .... What in the world is this?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com/thumbnails.php?album=9
>>
>>
>>
>> Chap

From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 31 20:23:45 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 02:23:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....
In-Reply-To: <4E360D0B.3040709@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <822859108.678701.1312165425936.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>

Did you remember to plug up the exhaust??

--
Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

----- lcjones at croakingfrog.net wrote:

> Unless there's a back door to the carbs.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 31 20:27:17 2011
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:27:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....
In-Reply-To: <4E360D0B.3040709@croakingfrog.net>
References: <2081618533.677852.1312160755335.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
	<4E360D0B.3040709@croakingfrog.net>
Message-ID: <DC02243681FE4554949EEF7F5F6B7575@spider>

White powder might be corrosion of some type. Aluminum oxide is white. Are
you going to have the head checked? Some of the manifold studs could be
replaced. ...bill in corvallis
==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lcjones at croakingfrog.net
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:19 PM
To: Dave KK7SS
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Riddle me this ....

I don't think it was mice, though I did have to house clean the glove
box. It was a white powdery substance. I didn't know to call the DHS or
the DEA. I blew it out. Later I saw the cat chasing butterflies and
thought, well, that's odd. By the way, I had sealed the carb throats
with duct tape a number of years ago. Duct tape was still intact and
doing it's job. Love that duct tape. Unless there's a back door to the
carbs.

Chap 
============================================

On 7/31/2011 9:05 PM, Dave KK7SS wrote:
> Mice!
>
> --
> Dave G  KK7SS
>  Richland, WA
>
> '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
> '65 Sprite - in process :(
> '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>
> ----- lcjones at croakingfrog.net wrote:
>
>> I have no clue .... any carb experts out there? Removed carbs in prep
>>
>> for engine pull .... What in the world is this?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://ohshit.croakingfrogfarm.com/thumbnails.php?album=9
>>
>>
>>
>> Chap
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From pchast at francomm.com  Sun Jul 31 20:32:06 2011
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:32:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <84784A2311004E3AA329D4E42E540516@Home>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<84784A2311004E3AA329D4E42E540516@Home>
Message-ID: <op.vzijzselsjevdj@pete200>

With those Much Younger.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:54:00 -0400, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>  
wrote:

>
>> Decent bodies are not THAT hard to find!
>
> Uh....At our age, where should we look?
>
> Michael Rowe
> _______________________________________________
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Jul 31 21:17:29 2011
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 03:17:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <1312160674.67019.YahooMailRC@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry><SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl><1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry><CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com><4E35DC5C.4060204@croakingfrog.net><1312160674.67019.YahooMailRC@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1710618274-1312168650-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1921418993-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>

Clearly, just buying a new car is the most logical choice. This project has some history. I owned this car when I was in high school, I've rolled it, I've "restored" it once. I sold it, I went to see a car, it was my old one, and I bought it back for the same price I sold it for. Unfortunately, I realized too late that the car is largely rust and Great Stuff insulation. 
So for ignorance and sentimental reasons, I figured on going forward. Two years ago, I bought the panels. Every time I got ready to cut the car, something came up - mother in law with cancer, divorce, refinancing the house so I didn't have to move. Anyway, I need to fix the car. It's a piece of junk, but I want to get it on the road. 
I am not restoring it, I want it sturdy and driveable. I plan on rattlecans for paint. I own almost all of the parts needed, so the cost has been paid. 
For those who have done significant panel replacement, do you have any suggestions on how to proceed?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:04:34 
To: Spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!

You have just exposed the basis of Spridgetdom.

Rather than buy a good car for X, buy a car that needs everything for a fraction 
of X and spend the difference, plus more money getting it to somewhere close to 
the first car. 


 jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: "lcjones at croakingfrog.net" <lcjones at croakingfrog.net>

But what the heck, waiting for a "better" tub kinda takes the funout of things. 
Doesn't it. :)
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 31 23:28:49 2011
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 00:28:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
In-Reply-To: <1710618274-1312168650-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1921418993-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
References: <537781577-1312136608-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860875182-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<SNT123-W41369D2AA97510BF08B128CA390@phx.gbl>
	<1408063709-1312141043-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-774674310-@b25.c30.bise6.blackberry>
	<CAJgjnuomf8w2Jg9AaG4FpRUQQzEoKpgX3tpqKuMX2xdS7QMW=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E35DC5C.4060204@croakingfrog.net>
	<1312160674.67019.YahooMailRC@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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You are braver than any Spridgeteer I know.  Notwithstanding the "car"s"
(Ahem!) history, From the pictures you posted I will nominate you for
Sainthood if you can make something even remotely sturdy and driveable out
of it.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:

> Clearly, just buying a new car is the most logical choice. This project has
> some history. I owned this car when I was in high school, I've rolled it,
> I've "restored" it once. I sold it, I went to see a car, it was my old one,
> and I bought it back for the same price I sold it for. Unfortunately, I
> realized too late that the car is largely rust and Great Stuff insulation.
> So for ignorance and sentimental reasons, I figured on going forward. Two
> years ago, I bought the panels. Every time I got ready to cut the car,
> something came up - mother in law with cancer, divorce, refinancing the
> house so I didn't have to move. Anyway, I need to fix the car. It's a piece
> of junk, but I want to get it on the road.
> I am not restoring it, I want it sturdy and driveable. I plan on rattlecans
> for paint. I own almost all of the parts needed, so the cost has been paid.
> For those who have done significant panel replacement, do you have any
> suggestions on how to proceed?
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:04:34
> To: Spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Working on the car, this time for real!
>
> You have just exposed the basis of Spridgetdom.
>
> Rather than buy a good car for X, buy a car that needs everything for a
> fraction
> of X and spend the difference, plus more money getting it to somewhere
> close to
> the first car.
>
>
>  jay fishbein
>
> wallingford, ct
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "lcjones at croakingfrog.net" <lcjones at croakingfrog.net>
>
> But what the heck, waiting for a "better" tub kinda takes the funout of
> things.
> Doesn't it. :)
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Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman at gmail.com

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 23:48:17 2011
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Brake Beehive Spring question
In-Reply-To: <2130925882.678093.1312162386251.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
References: <2130925882.678093.1312162386251.JavaMail.root@cl02-host03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1312177697.23528.YahooMailNeo@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Paul A told me he never used them. I try with needle nose vise grips, trying
to loop through the small hook. If they go easily, I use them. if not, Paul
never steered me wrong. So after a day, I'd leave 'em off!
 
RS
"That which
you manifest is before you" - Enzo the dog


________________________________
From: Dave KK7SS <kk7ss at frontier.com>
To: spridgets_autox.team.net
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject:
[Spridgets] Rear Brake Beehive Spring question

Just Slightly O-T.

The rear
brakes for my Morris Minor are similar, if not the same, as on the Bug-eye
(1959)

My question is about those %$#% Beehive Springs,
Lindsay Porters'
Restoration Manual says the Professional restorers (The Minor Center, Bath,
UK) say it's ok to omit them! BL's Workshop Manual mentions removing them but
not refitting them!

I've been fighting to fit the first one of these all day
long and I'm ready to quit!

For those that have fitted the beehive springs,,
Do you try to feed the small end in from the back of the shoe?
Or screw the
big end in from the front of the shoe?

I'm ready to just forget about them!!
--
Dave G  KK7SS
Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65
Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic
Hybrid
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From kk7ss at frontier.com  Sun Jul 31 23:52:14 2011
From: kk7ss at frontier.com (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 05:52:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Brake Beehive Spring question
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My thanks to all from both lists that replied and put up with my stupidity,,,
Mr Stupid (me!) was trying to fit the beehive springs to the shoes before putting them on the car,,, Duh!

I think that as long as I fit the pull-off springs the right way, behind the shoes, their tension should be sufficient to keep the shoes towards the backplate and away from the hub.

Confession: My 65 and 76 Sprites never had them and I never even though of fitting them..

Thanks to all for you consideration adn input.

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Dave G  KK7SS
 Richland, WA

'59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it..
'65 Sprite - in process :(
'76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :)
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid