" the girls all get prettier at closing time "<Grin> -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net> Duct tape? Interesting. Most of my projects get fixed with just the case of beer.