From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat May  1 00:59:48 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 02:59:48 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
Message-ID: <b7b6a.b6f2432.390d2b64@aol.com>

I'd have to find someone else to lend me a Porsche....
 
In a message dated 30/04/2010 23:28:20 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well, high speeds like that scare me, but perhaps we'll be able to have a  
contest of our own someday.  If you would be willing to spot me a few  
seconds because of your advanced experience, maybe we can even put a friendly  
wager on it?  It would be fun, wouldn't it?
 
LAD

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May  1 02:09:10 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 03:09:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's "contest" ?!?
In-Reply-To: <4BDB9986.6090105@comcast.net>
References: <4BDB960B.30007@justbrits.com>
  <4BDB9986.6090105@comcast.net>
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Chinese Silicone Implants

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> On 4/30/2010 10:46 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
>
>> Should there be a "Name this flick" contest ?!?!?
>>
>> http://www.justbrits.com/Temps/frank043010.wmv
>>
>> Or should it just be named:
>>
>> 1] Frank's Reward ?
>> 2] Franks "Parts is Parts" ?
>> 3] Frank's Revenge ?
>> 4] Frank's "chick" ?
>> 5] For Frank's Eyes Only ?
>> 6] Frank's "Parts" ?
>>
>
> How about *MADE IN CHINA*
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May  1 05:47:54 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 07:47:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay 1958 Bugeye low vin HAN-5/1978
Message-ID: <x2t205cef431005010447i91ddbaaau1a7e6fd45b589392@mail.gmail.com>

List,
Have you seen the low vin on this 58 HAN-5/1978?
Frank what is the number on your white 58?
This little Sprite doesn't have a title but I was talking to a guy on the
samba site (VW) just the other day who lives in Maine who said Maine will
take a bill of sale and give you a Maine title. I'm sure there are many
states who do this maybe NY. Too bad he doesn't show the 58 only features.
What was that link with the photos of the 58 only features using a grandma's
Bugeye to show the differences?
Lin

eBay #280499466699
or link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUSTIN-HEALEY-BUG-EYE-SPRITE-1958-BARN-FIND-/280499466699?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item414f1231cb

From kramer.allen at comcast.net  Sat May  1 06:05:08 2010
From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Problem
Message-ID: <461034511.4310921272715508051.JavaMail.root@sz0098a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Hey guys, 

Been away for a while taking care of my business. Finally had some time to take the bugeye out for a run. Beautiful day in Bucks County, PA. I was out for about an hour when the car started to miss. The car finally died and I coasted into a driveway. Car would start for about 30 seconds and died again. I noticed air bubbles coming into the clear gas filter so I cranked the car until they cleared. The car started and ran fine so I headed home which took another 10 minutes. At home I parked the car in the driveway shutting down the engine. Opened the garage door and went to start the car and the starter is completely dead. Will not crank the engine. I did notice the fuel gauge needle reading low. When the car was running it showed I had about 3/8 tank of fuel. 

Any suggestions on where to start trouble shooting? 

Thank you, 

Allen 

1960 Bugeye 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May  1 06:10:29 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 05:10:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Problem
In-Reply-To: <461034511.4310921272715508051.JavaMail.root@sz0098a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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Check the battery for charge. How old is the battery? Start cheapest/easiest
to fix, and work in. Next would be to check the charging system. 
How long had the car sat since you last used it? Sometimes gas picks up
water over the winter. ...bill in corvallis, oregon
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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:05 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Problem

Hey guys, 

Been away for a while taking care of my business. Finally had some time to
take the bugeye out for a run. Beautiful day in Bucks County, PA. I was out
for about an hour when the car started to miss. The car finally died and I
coasted into a driveway. Car would start for about 30 seconds and died
again. I noticed air bubbles coming into the clear gas filter so I cranked
the car until they cleared. The car started and ran fine so I headed home
which took another 10 minutes. At home I parked the car in the driveway
shutting down the engine. Opened the garage door and went to start the car
and the starter is completely dead. Will not crank the engine. I did notice
the fuel gauge needle reading low. When the car was running it showed I had
about 3/8 tank of fuel. 

Any suggestions on where to start trouble shooting? 

Thank you, 

Allen 

1960 Bugeye 
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From abcoz at hky.com  Sat May  1 06:20:54 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 08:20:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <928149.24323.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <928149.24323.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <095617C189B14AB3B74CC21922D2861E@OwnerPC>

Well, that could happen with any high performance car.  But, with any 
rear-engined Porsche, it's LIFTING the right foot in a turn that will get 
you into big trouble in a very big hurry.  The 928, on the other hand, 
features superb balance along with some trick rear suspension features that 
will help save your butt if you are silly enough to take your foot off the 
gas, in a turn, when you are close to or at the limit.
My most recent drive, in a 930 (an '86 model with very low, original miles), 
was just a few years ago and I was thoroughly impressed with the way Porsche 
had matched the chassis and brakes to the horsepower generated by that 
turbo-motor.  Of course, this has always been a Porsche hallmark (chassis & 
brakes matched to & complimenting horsepower).  But my favorite 911 is a '73 
Carrera RS clone that one of my buddies has.  Instead of the 2.7 it has a 
2.9 with S cams and mechanical fuel injection.  Tremendous performance, but, 
unlike some other super-cars, it really "talks" to you through the seat, 
wheel, brakes and throttle........a real Driver's Car.
To me, though, it's all about how much (or how little) of that awesome 
performance can be used on the road, in every day driving situations.  The 
reality is that it's very damn little, with Porsche's modern creations and I 
find that I wouldn't own ANY modern Porsche, even if it was GIVEN to me. 
With the early 911s and the 928s, you can still use a good bit of the 
performance potential on the road, provided you have the experience and 
ability to do it.  Still, like the old saying goes: it's a lot more fun 
driving slow cars fast than it is driving fast cars slow.  This is why the 
Spridget is such a hoot to drive almost ALL of the time.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "HealeyRick" <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area


> EZ!  Depress right foot, look in rear view mirror to see where you're 
> going to
> crash!
>
> Rick
>
>
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
> --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> My buddy just bought an 87 930 turbo. He wants me to teach him at 
> Blackhawk.
> YIKES.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May  1 06:32:32 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 07:32:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Problem
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References: <461034511.4310921272715508051.JavaMail.root@sz0098a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <k2je98d88091005010532xccae89a6pfb4cdd2f3f10399c@mail.gmail.com>

You said that you "cranked the car until they cleared". How long was that, 2
minutes, or 20 minutes. How long could account for the battery. If not very
long, you may want to check the output on your generator.
Your sig is "1960 Bugeye" (congrats, I have one also <G>), do you have the
original 948? If so, there may be a chance your fuel pump is suffering from
vapor lock, that may account for the bubbles in the filter. See if your
exhaust pipe is connected snug on your manifold. If you had a crack that
formed from not tightening it evenly, especially one faced towards the fuel
pump, that "could" account for the vapor lock. OOPS, that is if you are
running a 1275 manifold. But, if your clamp on the original 948/1098
manifold has an opening facing the pump, AND is not completely tight, you
"might" have an issue.
Fuel disappearing quickly... Again, if it is a 948, it should be sipping
fuel, unless you have a old cracked rubber fuel line. The old lines hate the
new fuel.
Now, if you are running a 1275, with a Weber DCOE, a header and have an
electric pump mounted in the back (like I have for MY 1960 Bugeye) forget
everything I just said.
Brad

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:05 AM, <kramer.allen at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> Been away for a while taking care of my business. Finally had some time to
> take the bugeye out for a run. Beautiful day in Bucks County, PA. I was out
> for about an hour when the car started to miss. The car finally died and I
> coasted into a driveway. Car would start for about 30 seconds and died
> again. I noticed air bubbles coming into the clear gas filter so I cranked
> the car until they cleared. The car started and ran fine so I headed home
> which took another 10 minutes. At home I parked the car in the driveway
> shutting down the engine. Opened the garage door and went to start the car
> and the starter is completely dead. Will not crank the engine. I did notice
> the fuel gauge needle reading low. When the car was running it showed I had
> about 3/8 tank of fuel.
>
> Any suggestions on where to start trouble shooting?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Allen
>
> 1960 Bugeye
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May  1 08:34:58 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 07:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <095617C189B14AB3B74CC21922D2861E@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <614349.98716.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My buddy Bruce who LAD mentions has a 73 911RS clone. My other friend is Jeff
Kaney. Jeff doesn't consider himself a car guy, but he has a Land Rover, the
930, and an old Mercedes "Uberwagen" thing for real bad weather. Bruce also
hasthe WRX STi and needs no lessons from me.

RacecarSHIT needed at my house
soon.

Ron

> complimenting horsepower).  But my favorite 911 is a
> '73
Carrera RS clone that one of my buddies has. 
> Instead of the 2.7 it has a
2.9 with S cams and mechanical
> 
> > 
> > My buddy just bought an 87 930
turbo. He wants me to
> teach him at Blackhawk.
> > YIKES.

From nases at verizon.net  Sat May  1 09:13:45 2010
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 11:13:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake adjustment
Message-ID: <C8555257-3FDC-4EFC-A727-0B876D09D922@verizon.net>

I just installed new hoses, bleeders and flushed the fluid after replacing
rear oil seals and bearings on the bugeye.

I am adjusting the rear drum brakes.  Currently I am two clicks down from the
max adjustment.  How much force should I need to turn the drum with the
correct adjustment dialed in?  I can rotate the drum with some resistance but
with with some effort now.  I don't have the wheels on yet because I can't
adjust the brakes with them on.

I measured the linings and have mostly 3/16 remaining worn to 5/32 at one
area.  Is there a minimum amount?





Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May  1 09:50:03 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 08:50:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] brake adjustment
In-Reply-To: <C8555257-3FDC-4EFC-A727-0B876D09D922@verizon.net>
References: <C8555257-3FDC-4EFC-A727-0B876D09D922@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <681FBF3547CF495BAAA0EB876B50B782@spider>

I adjust them so the brake shoes just touch; you can hear it. No real drag.
It goes a little easier if you have the wheels on. Also, you'll want to spin
the wheel/drum and have someone hit the brakes several times. This centers
the brake shoes in the drum. ...bill in corvallis
==================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:14 AM
To: net Spridgets at autox.
Subject: [Spridgets] brake adjustment

I just installed new hoses, bleeders and flushed the fluid after replacing
rear oil seals and bearings on the bugeye.

I am adjusting the rear drum brakes.  Currently I am two clicks down from
the
max adjustment.  How much force should I need to turn the drum with the
correct adjustment dialed in?  I can rotate the drum with some resistance
but
with with some effort now.  I don't have the wheels on yet because I can't
adjust the brakes with them on.

I measured the linings and have mostly 3/16 remaining worn to 5/32 at one
area.  Is there a minimum amount?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
_______________________________________________

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat May  1 10:58:06 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 16:58:06 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Frank's "contest" ?!?
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds38097D02DB6E2679118BFD4F00@phx.gbl>

"Frank's Revenge"  :):)

CB

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May  1 12:16:37 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 13:16:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay 1958 Bugeye low vin HAN-5/1978
In-Reply-To: <x2t205cef431005010447i91ddbaaau1a7e6fd45b589392@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x2t205cef431005010447i91ddbaaau1a7e6fd45b589392@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BDC7005.6060006@justbrits.com>

<< What was that link with the photos of the 58 only features
using a grandma's Bugeye to show the differences? >>

Colin's site, Lin.

Me

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May  1 12:19:50 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 13:19:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's "contest" ?!?
In-Reply-To: <4BDB9986.6090105@comcast.net>
References: <4BDB960B.30007@justbrits.com>
  <4BDB9986.6090105@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BDC70C6.7080502@justbrits.com>

<< How about *MADE IN CHINA*  >>

Er Frank, whilst not "bad" methinks "Maid in China"
would be "better" ?!?!? 

<VBEG> !!

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat May  1 12:29:17 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 11:29:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw:  rebuilding 1275cc engines
In-Reply-To: <0c7d01cae8a5$2c575810$0200000a@Workstation1>
Message-ID: <508124.33322.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 Lin,
 
Colin is giving you the straight scoop.
The things Colin listed i would consider required to do a motor.
 
That is why i said if you could find a long block -
All of that stuff is done - you only add on the out side goodies.
 
If you want to dig in a little further into the motor a short block.
Then you have to deal with the head & associated parts your self.
This is a lot of work if you have never set up a motor.
 
 
 Vigil 
 
 
--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au> wrote:


From: Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: rebuilding 1275cc engines
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 1:39 PM


G'day Lin

I just don't want you to have false expectations.  These engines are over 30
years old, and if you're going to rebuild them properly there's quite a bit
of
work that needs to be done, and that costs money.

You can get a "budget" rebuild for $2000 but it will not be a "nicely set up
engine".

Things that are often not done, but which contribute to a good rebuild,
include:
a) chemically cleaning the block and head to remove all rust and scale from
the water jackets, and sludge from the oil galleries;
b) deck both block and head to ensure they are both perfectly flat (they
often
aren't);
c) statically balance con-rods and pistons;
d) dynamically balance crankshaft, flywheel and clutch.

Doing these things adds approx $350 - $400 to the cost, but you get an engine
that runs smoothly and doesn't over-heat in traffic.  But the cost, plus the
labour to assemble, doesn't leave much out of the $2000 for must do items
like
new pistons, re-boring, grinding carnakshaft etc.

And it leaves no money at all to re-profile the camshaft, modify the cylinder
head.


Get some ball-park figures in advance from reputable engine builders, then
save up for the best rebuild you can afford.  You don't want to be
dissatisfied with the result, or (worse) have to do it over again.

avagoodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Linda Grunthaner
  To: Colin Dodds
  Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
  Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rebuilding 1275cc engines


  Thanks Colin, I would like to spend about 2K on a nicely setup 1275
eventually for one of my cars but that won't be for another year at least.
Till then my kids are enjoying learning about the parts on my disassembled
948
displayed in my class : )
  Lin


  On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>
wrote:

    That's not an engine you're looking at Lin, it's a Mini "power unit" -
    includes rebuild gearbox plus clutch.

    At $4835.00 it's cheap.

    A rebuilt 1275cc Sprite/Midget engine should cost you $2500 and upwards,
    depending on how much power you want out of it.  Under $2000 and it's
probably
    being rebuilt "on the cheap".

    avagoodday
    Colin
    www.SpriteParts.com.au

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From montpaul at msn.com  Sat May  1 13:03:15 2010
From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 12:03:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's "contest" ?!?
In-Reply-To: <4BDC70C6.7080502@justbrits.com>
References: <4BDB960B.30007@justbrits.com>, <4BDB9986.6090105@comcast.net>,
	<4BDC70C6.7080502@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W316BCEC5CF2D6CA3C197AAD5F00@phx.gbl>

We better be careful. That explosion could be used to detonate an H bomb.
Could those be smuggled on to an airplane?

> Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 13:19:50 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
> To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank's "contest" ?!?
>
> << How about *MADE IN CHINA* >>
>
> Er Frank, whilst not "bad" methinks "Maid in China"
> would be "better" ?!?!?
>
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat May  1 14:41:11 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 20:41:11 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: Frank's "contest" ?!?
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds1562D80C7A071D038BAFD3D4F00@phx.gbl>

LOL....definitely!! :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Shop at " Just Brits "
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 2:19 PM
To: 4 - bugeye at yahoo, 4 - Spridgets
Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: [Spridgets] Frank's "contest" ?!?

<< How about *MADE IN CHINA*  >>

Er Frank, whilst not "bad" methinks "Maid in China"
would be "better" ?!?!? 

<VBEG> !!

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat May  1 21:04:35 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 20:04:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] brake adjustment
In-Reply-To: <C8555257-3FDC-4EFC-A727-0B876D09D922@verizon.net>
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On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

>   I don't have the wheels on yet because I can't
> adjust the brakes with them on.
>

Why not?  If you have stock wheels they can be put on so that the brakes can
be adjusted with the wheels on.
Hal

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun May  2 04:06:47 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 03:06:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Honda Brake Question
Message-ID: <AANLkTilNEX1UCn0y7UFP1Ej33Z3knFefUANEkxvVRU7Q@mail.gmail.com>

I di a brake job on my 2004 Honda Civic a few days ago.  When I removed the
pads, one side had quite a bit of pad material left and the other side was
quite a bit thinner and the wear was at an angle.  I can't figure out what
caused this wear pattern.  Another thing I noticed when I separated the
bracket from the caliper was that one of the guide pins on each of the
calipers had a rubber seal on the end that acted like a piston of sorts.  I
did not have a manual to go by so I don't know which hole the seal was
supposed to go in, the leading end or the trailing end of the pads, so I
just slapped it back together not paying attention of which pin went in what
hole.  Could this seal be the reason for the uneven wear of the pads?  Any
Honda brake experts out there?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May  2 06:59:58 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 06:59:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Honda Brake Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilNEX1UCn0y7UFP1Ej33Z3knFefUANEkxvVRU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilNEX1UCn0y7UFP1Ej33Z3knFefUANEkxvVRU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <q2i5f00d9911005020559yc99d8fffkb2042ff2f30854e3@mail.gmail.com>

That is not a Honda specific issue.
Sticky calipers(they're supposed to float on the pins), bad front end
alignment, wheel bearing problems, etc. can cause odd pad wear.
Just make sure that the pins the calipers float on are not corroded
and the calipers can slide on them.  Clean them if dirty and replace
if pitted or corroded.

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun May  2 07:05:29 2010
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:05:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] '79 Midget
Message-ID: <171579224.16555711272805529878.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

There is a really nice 1979 Midget for sale about 2 miles from me here just
north of Knoxville, TN.B  It looks to be a clean and nice car, as far as I can
tell from having passed it on the highway--I haven't stopped to check it out
since I am already too flush with Spridgets.B  I told the owner, whoB I know a
little as a member of our church,B if he would give me a list of specifics,
such as milage, etc. I wouldB see if anyone on here is interested in a nice
rubber bumper. He wants under $5,000 for it.



David C.

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun May  2 09:16:15 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 08:16:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Selling Morrisservice
Message-ID: <SNT123-W72A3917FB17D095D8FD11CAF10@phx.gbl>

As most of you know Paul Asgeirsson has been having medical problems and now
needs to sell Morrisservice. It will be going for a very reasonable amount. If
anyone has interest in buying the company get back to me or Joey Asgeirsson
(Paul's son).BillM
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun May  2 10:07:27 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 09:07:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Honda Brake Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilNEX1UCn0y7UFP1Ej33Z3knFefUANEkxvVRU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C802F14F.26B87%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

They always wear like that, but you shouldn't have to take out the  pins to
change the pads. The caliper just swings up and the pads slide out. They
usually last about 30K miles.
BZ

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sun May  2 10:49:42 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:49:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] CARK
Message-ID: <F4711B6C3CF7419FB273596B17E8CE7B@Dell9200>

Wanted helpers to build "CARK"!  12 inches of rain in last 24 hours in 
Nashville.  I will be collecting 2 of each model British cars, sorry no 
Triumphs.

Mark
Nashville

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May  2 11:11:10 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:11:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Honda Brake Question
In-Reply-To: <C802F14F.26B87%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTilNEX1UCn0y7UFP1Ej33Z3knFefUANEkxvVRU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<C802F14F.26B87%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <h2l5f00d9911005021011r789a97f0t82be2efaae11f46@mail.gmail.com>

On my Tacoma Prerunner you don't even have to remove any part of the
caliper.  There are retainer pins that keep the pads in.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> They always wear like that, but you shouldn't have to take out the  pins to


Sometimes the wear is more extremely one sided.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun May  2 12:09:09 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:09:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Honda Brake Question
In-Reply-To: <h2l5f00d9911005021011r789a97f0t82be2efaae11f46@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilNEX1UCn0y7UFP1Ej33Z3knFefUANEkxvVRU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<C802F14F.26B87%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<h2l5f00d9911005021011r789a97f0t82be2efaae11f46@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimQGmEREnjfRew8bP5FcNS6IV6IhXaUVj99yoiB@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe I should have told you that the bracket and the caliper had to be
removed from the hub so I could get the rotors off to be turned.  True, I
did not have to pull out the guide pins, but all the manuals I have ever
seen on Japanese brake (in fact any type) repair always say to lube the pins
for free movement.  I used high temp bearing grease to accomplish this.  I
have done many brake jobs in the past.  Sometimes all I did was replace the
pads as Billy described, but there was a shudder in the steering wheel when
the brakes were applied at speed which disappeared since the rotors were
turned.  All I really was wondering about was the rubber tipped end of one
guide pin on each side and the purpose of it.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:11 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On my Tacoma Prerunner you don't even have to remove any part of the
> caliper.  There are retainer pins that keep the pads in.
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> wrote:
> > They always wear like that, but you shouldn't have to take out the  pins
> to
>
>
> Sometimes the wear is more extremely one sided.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May  2 12:31:03 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:31:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] CARK
In-Reply-To: <F4711B6C3CF7419FB273596B17E8CE7B@Dell9200>
References: <F4711B6C3CF7419FB273596B17E8CE7B@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <z2s43840a7e1005021131pec66ebedm2375e2eecac5e8a1@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

Be sure to check your local building codes and licensing requirements...
Also the CARK Construction Union (CCU) will need to be involved. Finally,
you will need a Marine Salvage License, a seaworthiness certificate and a
Merchant Marine Navigator and Pilot's license as well as appropriate marine
liability insurance. I'm sure there are other things invloved but don't
worry...  the building and fire inspection people will usually point them
our for you...

;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

P.S.  Have your feet started growing webs yet?

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:

> Wanted helpers to build "CARK"!  12 inches of rain in last 24 hours in
> Nashville.  I will be collecting 2 of each model British cars, sorry no
> Triumphs.
>
> Mark
> Nashville
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May  2 13:44:01 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 13:44:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Honda Brake Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimQGmEREnjfRew8bP5FcNS6IV6IhXaUVj99yoiB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilNEX1UCn0y7UFP1Ej33Z3knFefUANEkxvVRU7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<C802F14F.26B87%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<h2l5f00d9911005021011r789a97f0t82be2efaae11f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimQGmEREnjfRew8bP5FcNS6IV6IhXaUVj99yoiB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <t2z5f00d9911005021244zff2b5a98o420cb6a47c9cfe00@mail.gmail.com>

May be to hold something in place during assembly?

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Sun May  2 16:44:15 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 18:44:15 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] CARK
Message-ID: <9d4d7.4def5ed5.390f5a3f@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/2/2010 12:52:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mark at nashvilletn.org writes:

....."I will be collecting 2 of each model British cars, sorry no  
Triumphs"......
What's to be sorry about?
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun May  2 21:34:17 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 20:34:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] CARK
In-Reply-To: <z2s43840a7e1005021131pec66ebedm2375e2eecac5e8a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F4711B6C3CF7419FB273596B17E8CE7B@Dell9200>
	<z2s43840a7e1005021131pec66ebedm2375e2eecac5e8a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BDE4439.9090204@frontiernet.net>

You might also want to know that the International Triumph 
Anti-defamation League has filed suit against you in the amount of $24 
billion because of your blatant discrimination against Triumph.

Kate


Jim Johnson wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Be sure to check your local building codes and licensing requirements...
> Also the CARK Construction Union (CCU) will need to be involved. Finally,
> you will need a Marine Salvage License, a seaworthiness certificate and a
> Merchant Marine Navigator and Pilot's license as well as appropriate marine
> liability insurance. I'm sure there are other things invloved but don't
> worry...  the building and fire inspection people will usually point them
> our for you...
>
> ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> P.S.  Have your feet started growing webs yet?
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> Wanted helpers to build "CARK"!  12 inches of rain in last 24 hours in
>> Nashville.  I will be collecting 2 of each model British cars, sorry no
>> Triumphs.
>>
>> Mark
>> Nashville
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
> shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
>        John Adams
>        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon May  3 05:32:01 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:32:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] SpriteSpot still down
In-Reply-To: <C80079F8.26A9D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <g2t205cef431004301131u89ea678am7849a5682fcc286e@mail.gmail.com>,
	<C80079F8.26A9D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w32AB0DA6C51C2820B68A45C2F20@phx.gbl>

When I drink alone, I prefer to be by my self.......:-)

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



>
> I know, but I really prefer drinking alone.
> > Billy you need to get out more ; )
> > Lin
>

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon May  3 05:46:26 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:46:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Track
In-Reply-To: <883831.12205.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <n2h2ad6c6b11004271830se30ba93j89733760d1886c8d@mail.gmail.com>,
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Message-ID: <BAY145-w6039AB25DA13F5204EC1F6C2F20@phx.gbl>

Near Dallas too,

http://www.motorsportranch.com/

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:34:49 -0700
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Track
>
> That was done in North Carolina.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Tue, 4/27/10, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's a thought....Imagine this.
>
> A group of 'car guys' (and gals of course) buy this 512 acres
> (?), subdivide various areas or portions around the track and build
> houses....all with fantastic garages.  Erect the ideal community work shop
> for the residents, couple of pools, clubs, air strip, etc, etc, etc.
>
> Let's put this "dream" world on paper, see what we come up with.  May even
> find private money willing to be involved; a fellow car guy.
>
> We could share the idea with other car lists.  Most of us are
> "cross-driver", right?!?
>
> Thoughts???
>
> Just my thoughts,
>
> Herb
>

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon May  3 05:57:36 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:57:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel  policing
In-Reply-To: <779752.34850.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <779752.34850.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w368CC05FC228FB694569B6C2F20@phx.gbl>

Vigil,

Why would you want to Police stainless steel??
Did it do something wrong?
I know I would like to remove lots of rust and police too,
some of them are real jerks.
I know some real good policing tricks and have access to
some really cool police goodies.
 I can't share them on the list tho,
might get found out and lose access to them.

;-)
Just funnin w ya Vigil,
Can't believe no one jumped on this, are you guys slacking??
unless you all did only privately.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!





> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:56:52 -0700
> From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Stainless Steel  policing
>
>
>
> Group,
>
> I found some Stainless Steel  window frames for my 1960 Morris Tourer
> They are rusty and dull.I need to remove the rust and police.
> Any one know of a good process - i have a motor - not sure what wheel to
buy.
> Or the other policing goodies or tricks. Any one ever gone through this
> before?
> They were found in a pile with 2 inches of snow over them - still not that
bad
> i am told.
> I will not know until next week when my friend drops them off.
> I figured i would never hear of another set - till i bought these of
> course...lol
> I am thinking it is better to ask before i went at them with any cleaners
or
> abrasives.
>
> TIA,
>
> Vigil
> So Cal
> ____________________________
>

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From abcoz at hky.com  Mon May  3 08:21:11 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 10:21:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <614349.98716.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <614349.98716.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <597FFE45AB9143DFB4268A15193C654B@OwnerPC>

A couple of years ago, in a Pittsburgh suburb, a guy who had a 930 as (at 
least the way I read it) as a "see me" car and who was shown to not 
understand the vehicle dynamics of a rear-engined Porsche, sold his 930.  On 
the day before the new owner was to pick the car up, the seller took his 
neighbor out for "one last ride" in the car.  Accelerating away from a 
traffic light and into a twisty section of 2 lane, with minor (at least for 
traveling at the speed limit) elevation changes, the guy made the mistake of 
lifting his right foot out of the throttle in a left-hand turn, as the road 
leveled off after a slight rise.  It was the next to last ride for both the 
930 owner and his neighbor (if the hearse counts as a ride) as they were 
killed on impact with a parked Toyota and the brick wall of a house.
ANY rear-engined Porsche will bite you, big time, if you make the mistake of 
going to a trailing throttle setting when the car is at it's limit in a 
turn.  Those without the experience to know not to lift their right foot are 
also the least likely to know how to deal with the resulting instant and 
massive oversteer.  Obviously, the faster you are going the more sudden and 
dramatic the oversteer.
The 930 is a really poor choice of car for the novice.  If your friend is 
serious about owning this car, he needs to join PCA and attend their DE 
(driver education) events, which are held at race courses throughout the 
country.  PCA recognized the fact that probably 98% of new Porsche owners 
have no clue about how to maintain control of their Porsches under high 
speed conditions.  The 930 is a car that can easily get your friend in over 
his head in a heart-beat.  I hope he understands just how lethal this car 
can be for him, if he fails to learn how to drive it properly.  The fact 
that he asked you for help in learning how to handle it is certainly 
encouraging.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area


My other friend is Jeff
 Jeff doesn't consider himself a car guy, but he has a Land Rover, the
> 930, and an old Mercedes "Uberwagen" thing for real bad weather. Bruce 
> also
> hasthe WRX STi and needs no lessons from me.
>
> RacecarSHIT needed at my house
> soon.
>
> Ron
>
>> complimenting horsepower).  But my favorite 911 is a
>> '73
> Carrera RS clone that one of my buddies has.
>> Instead of the 2.7 it has a
> 2.9 with S cams and mechanical
>>
>> >
>> > My buddy just bought an 87 930
> turbo. He wants me to
>> teach him at Blackhawk.
>> > YIKES.

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Mon May  3 08:35:05 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:35:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] $30,000 MGA
Message-ID: <939160.66536.qm@web46413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If you have nothing better to do, watch video #2 and see what you think of the
tach and speedo on this $30,000 MGA. Looks like 7500 RPM at 15 MPH. 
E-Bay 
180499560321  Skip J.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon May  3 08:47:03 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:47:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <597FFE45AB9143DFB4268A15193C654B@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <641750.1932.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

" PCA recognized the fact that probably 98% of new Porsche owners have no
clue about how to maintain control of their Porsches under high speed
conditions. "

Hmmmm, Is this poetic justice for those corporate execs collecting those
$50-Mil bonuses?

jay

--- On Mon, 5/3/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>, Spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:21 AM


---- PCA recognized the fact that probably 98% of new Porsche owners have no
clue about how to maintain control of their Porsches under high speed
conditions.  The 930 is a car that can easily get your friend in over his head
in a heart-beat.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon May  3 09:03:47 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 08:03:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Calendar, month of May
In-Reply-To: <g2g402188521005021817oee99fb48t96bd9dc54033dd4e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2kfbc9308f1004301346m61c544e3w634db8a95f12b52d@mail.gmail.com>
	<g2g402188521005021817oee99fb48t96bd9dc54033dd4e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <y2gfbc9308f1005030803m335b6386ve2af9aaa2ce94c85@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks David, and to all who took the time to contact me.
It's been a week now and it's getting a little easier every day.
I contacted the Washington Boxer Rescue people yesterday, looking into
finding a companion for our big boy boxer Thatcher.
He's pretty mopey still, and when he goes out into the backyard he looks
around for a while and goes back to the door.
I know he misses Tuppy, maybe not in the same way as we do but he does miss
her.
Anyway, thanks again. I need to get Thatcher out in the car for some top
down driving - if it ever gets up above 50 degrees and stops raining!!

Rick Bastedo


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick,
> Sorry about the loss, even expected, it is just as hard. Glad that the
> calendar timed it well. Enjoy!
> David L
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm very grateful that the picture of my Sprite with my dog Tuppy has
> such a
> > great place in the center of the May page.
> > Our Boxer Tuppy died this past Monday, I've turned my calendar to May
> early
> > as it helps me to see her there.
> >
> > She had surgery last May to remove a cancerous growth and her spleen.
> > We knew her time was short, and so we tried to make every day count over
> the
> > past 11 months.
> >
> > She wasn't feeling well Monday after her nap, she went outside with our
> > other Boxer Thatcher.
> > They escaped the yard for one last adventure, we found her and brought
> her
> > home within about 10 minutes of their escape.
> > She was pale and just wanted to lay and rest, she passed away a couple
> hours
> > later in peace with her family around her.
> > She would have been 8 years old this June.
> > Our family has been grieving her loss this week, she was a great friend
> and
> > we miss her.
> >
> > Rick Bastedo
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Mon May  3 09:04:28 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 08:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] $30,000 MGA
In-Reply-To: <939160.66536.qm@web46413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <939160.66536.qm@web46413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <436220.86800.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's funny... you are correct.  The tach is totally in and out of the red and the speedo doesn't move.  Knock $11,000 off the selling price!  Good eye.  You guys always find stuff like this.  I'll definitely engage your services if I ever buy any car, LBC or not. 

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>
To: spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 7:35:05 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] $30,000 MGA

If you have nothing better to do, watch video #2 and see what you think of the
tach and speedo on this $30,000 MGA. Looks like 7500 RPM at 15 MPH. 
E-Bay 
180499560321  Skip J.
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From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Mon May  3 10:20:08 2010
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 11:20:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel filter
Message-ID: <AF7D86BE-C9D7-4C99-8412-59FEC586098B@comcast.net>

What is the appropriate size fuel filter for a 1959 bugeye?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon May  3 10:24:57 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 12:24:57 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] $30,000 MGA
Message-ID: <19cc3.6d077588.391052d9@aol.com>

A 5 speed overdrive?  Does he mean a 4 speed with overdrive on  top?  I'd 
knock money off for having parts overhauled by Apple  Hydraulics.  Shouldn't 
the carbs be HD or H type not the HS he has  fitted?
 
Yep the tacho is shot.
 
He never really does accelerate that hard in it, why is that?
 
Not least if he loves it so much why is he selling it?
 
Finally, he needs to learn better hand position on his steering wheel -  
quarter to three or ten to two.... better not him loose in a Porsche.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 03/05/2010 15:56:21 GMT Daylight Time,  
jackson.skip at yahoo.com writes:

If you  have nothing better to do, watch video #2 and see what you think of 
 the
tach and speedo on this $30,000 MGA. Looks like 7500 RPM at 15 MPH.  
E-Bay 
180499560321  Skip J.

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon May  3 10:32:47 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 11:32:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel filter
In-Reply-To: <AF7D86BE-C9D7-4C99-8412-59FEC586098B@comcast.net>
References: <AF7D86BE-C9D7-4C99-8412-59FEC586098B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <201005030932726.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Just use an old VW universal fuel filter, variously called a WK3-1/2 
or W3-1/2 or Beck/Arnley 043-0504 or Bosch 71936.
         Watch the direction arrow when installing. Backwards doesn't work.
         Peter C
..
At 11:20 AM 5/3/2010, Jess Power wrote:
>What is the appropriate size fuel filter for a 1959 bugeye?
>_______________________________________________

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon May  3 11:26:36 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:26:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lititz, PA
Message-ID: <r2o205cef431005031026r72a3b350i230c515b1cef9768@mail.gmail.com>

List is anyone near Lititz, PA to look at a Bugeye Bumper for me?
Thanks Linda

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon May  3 11:30:54 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:30:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Yippi Sprite Spot Lives ......: )
Message-ID: <l2l205cef431005031030of76fd3b4v5f08525d1b008304@mail.gmail.com>

List,
http://spritespot.com/ is back online .
Yippi.
Lin

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon May  3 11:42:19 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 12:42:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Track
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w6039AB25DA13F5204EC1F6C2F20@phx.gbl>
References: <n2h2ad6c6b11004271830se30ba93j89733760d1886c8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<883831.12205.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY145-w6039AB25DA13F5204EC1F6C2F20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <p2ye98d88091005031042y75d2de6cq6030a224f22cd572@mail.gmail.com>

That is 40 minutes from my house, and it IS a nice place.

Brad

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:46 AM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Near Dallas too,
>
> http://www.motorsportranch.com/
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:34:49 -0700
> > From: jfishbein at snet.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Track
> >
> > That was done in North Carolina.
> >
> > jay
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/27/10, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here's a thought....Imagine this.
> >
> > A group of 'car guys' (and gals of course) buy this 512 acres
> > (?), subdivide various areas or portions around the track and build
> > houses....all with fantastic garages.  Erect the ideal community work
> shop
> > for the residents, couple of pools, clubs, air strip, etc, etc, etc.
> >
> > Let's put this "dream" world on paper, see what we come up with.  May
> even
> > find private money willing to be involved; a fellow car guy.
> >
> > We could share the idea with other car lists.  Most of us are
> > "cross-driver", right?!?
> >
> > Thoughts???
> >
> > Just my thoughts,
> >
> > Herb
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon May  3 11:43:38 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:43:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Calendar, month of May
In-Reply-To: <y2gfbc9308f1005030803m335b6386ve2af9aaa2ce94c85@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2kfbc9308f1004301346m61c544e3w634db8a95f12b52d@mail.gmail.com>
	<g2g402188521005021817oee99fb48t96bd9dc54033dd4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<y2gfbc9308f1005030803m335b6386ve2af9aaa2ce94c85@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2v205cef431005031043i8f3bedeck33529fbca799243d@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,
I am so sorry for the loss of Tuppy.* *I loved the way you explained her
last adventure and I am glad she had that last adventure. I'm also glad you
are thinking of her little friend Thatcher and finding a homeless Boxer for
companionship, she would have wanted it that way.
Can you send me a picture of the two of them?
Hang in there.
Linda

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks David, and to all who took the time to contact me.
> It's been a week now and it's getting a little easier every day.
> I contacted the Washington Boxer Rescue people yesterday, looking into
> finding a companion for our big boy boxer Thatcher.
> He's pretty mopey still, and when he goes out into the backyard he looks
> around for a while and goes back to the door.
> I know he misses Tuppy, maybe not in the same way as we do but he does miss
> her.
> Anyway, thanks again. I need to get Thatcher out in the car for some top
> down driving - if it ever gets up above 50 degrees and stops raining!!
>
> Rick Bastedo
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Rick,
> > Sorry about the loss, even expected, it is just as hard. Glad that the
> > calendar timed it well. Enjoy!
> > David L
>  >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I'm very grateful that the picture of my Sprite with my dog Tuppy has
> > such a
> > > great place in the center of the May page.
> > > Our Boxer Tuppy died this past Monday, I've turned my calendar to May
> > early
> > > as it helps me to see her there.
> > >
> > > She had surgery last May to remove a cancerous growth and her spleen.
> > > We knew her time was short, and so we tried to make every day count
> over
> > the
> > > past 11 months.
> > >
> > > She wasn't feeling well Monday after her nap, she went outside with our
> > > other Boxer Thatcher.
> > > They escaped the yard for one last adventure, we found her and brought
> > her
> > > home within about 10 minutes of their escape.
> > > She was pale and just wanted to lay and rest, she passed away a couple
> > hours
> > > later in peace with her family around her.
> > > She would have been 8 years old this June.
> > > Our family has been grieving her loss this week, she was a great friend
> > and
> > > we miss her.
> > >
> > > Rick Bastedo
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget at gmail.com
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon May  3 11:46:25 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 10:46:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Calendar, month of May
In-Reply-To: <r2v205cef431005031043i8f3bedeck33529fbca799243d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2kfbc9308f1004301346m61c544e3w634db8a95f12b52d@mail.gmail.com>
	<g2g402188521005021817oee99fb48t96bd9dc54033dd4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<y2gfbc9308f1005030803m335b6386ve2af9aaa2ce94c85@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2v205cef431005031043i8f3bedeck33529fbca799243d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <q2lfbc9308f1005031046mfffbed99h4908eb1233afe7ad@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Linda,
Here's a Picasa web album with both of them - mainly pics of Tuppy though.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/Boxers#

Rick


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Rick,
> I am so sorry for the loss of Tuppy.* *I loved the way you explained her
> last adventure and I am glad she had that last adventure. I'm also glad you
> are thinking of her little friend Thatcher and finding a homeless Boxer for
> companionship, she would have wanted it that way.
> Can you send me a picture of the two of them?
> Hang in there.
> Linda
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks David, and to all who took the time to contact me.
>> It's been a week now and it's getting a little easier every day.
>> I contacted the Washington Boxer Rescue people yesterday, looking into
>> finding a companion for our big boy boxer Thatcher.
>> He's pretty mopey still, and when he goes out into the backyard he looks
>> around for a while and goes back to the door.
>> I know he misses Tuppy, maybe not in the same way as we do but he does
>> miss
>> her.
>> Anyway, thanks again. I need to get Thatcher out in the car for some top
>> down driving - if it ever gets up above 50 degrees and stops raining!!
>>
>> Rick Bastedo
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Rick,
>> > Sorry about the loss, even expected, it is just as hard. Glad that the
>> > calendar timed it well. Enjoy!
>> > David L
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > I'm very grateful that the picture of my Sprite with my dog Tuppy has
>> > such a
>> > > great place in the center of the May page.
>> > > Our Boxer Tuppy died this past Monday, I've turned my calendar to May
>> > early
>> > > as it helps me to see her there.
>> > >
>> > > She had surgery last May to remove a cancerous growth and her spleen.
>> > > We knew her time was short, and so we tried to make every day count
>> over
>> > the
>> > > past 11 months.
>> > >
>> > > She wasn't feeling well Monday after her nap, she went outside with
>> our
>> > > other Boxer Thatcher.
>> > > They escaped the yard for one last adventure, we found her and brought
>> > her
>> > > home within about 10 minutes of their escape.
>> > > She was pale and just wanted to lay and rest, she passed away a couple
>> > hours
>> > > later in peace with her family around her.
>> > > She would have been 8 years old this June.
>> > > Our family has been grieving her loss this week, she was a great
>> friend
>> > and
>> > > we miss her.
>> > >
>> > > Rick Bastedo
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > >
>> > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> > > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> > > Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget at gmail.com
>>  _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon May  3 11:48:55 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:48:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <641750.1932.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <597FFE45AB9143DFB4268A15193C654B@OwnerPC>,
	<641750.1932.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w179CCE8C1BBE80873C3262B8F20@phx.gbl>

Depends who they hit, I guess.  ;)

RD
>
> " PCA recognized the fact that probably 98% of new Porsche owners have no
> clue about how to maintain control of their Porsches under high speed
> conditions. "
>
> Hmmmm, Is this poetic justice for those corporate execs collecting those
> $50-Mil bonuses?
>
> jay

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon May  3 12:47:46 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 11:47:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bubbles in the Fuel Filter
Message-ID: <s2l37dc82d41005031147q1b573636i910721ff5324462f@mail.gmail.com>

My fuel gauge on my 59 1275 is funky at  best.  When it reads just above a
quarter tank I know that it is time to get some gas in the thing or I will
be stranded.

When it has run out of gas..  it will run a bit, act up an it will contlinue
to go further.  . I might even be able to drive a few miles while it is
running on fumes.

Hopefully your problem is something simple. .

Just a couple cents of info from me. .

Kirk
59 1275 DCOE (OER)

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon May  3 13:38:04 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:38:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <641750.1932.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <641750.1932.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10E7B1CD565648D1ADD096E776A8BF4C@OwnerPC>

Sounds like a bit of jealousy, to me.  Personally, while I don't have any 
use for people who buy a car simply to impress others with, I refuse to 
dislike someone simply because they have attained more, in terms of material 
wealth, than I have.  I think that most of them may have earned it by being 
more willing to work hard for it, at the expense of their personal/family 
life.  Others were just in the right place at the right time, which I have 
observed as probably the KEY to material success in life.  No matter where 
we happen to be, materially, we pay a price of some sort for it.
As a PCA member, on and off since '71, I find that today's "typical" PCA 
member just doesn't get it as to how to really have FUN with a sports car. 
I just can't justify spending all of that money for performance which can 
virtually NEVER be safely used on a public highway.  Think about it: How 
often do we see a modern/new Porsche out on a winding, country back road? 
Typically, we see them on an Interstate droning along in traffic with other 
clueless commuters, or motoring along at 25-35 mph around a mall or suburban 
neighborhood.  The PCA members who actually have fun DRIVING their cars are 
those with the older, "classic" models (typically the ones produced before 
1986, for example), I think because the cars are smaller (look at any modern 
Porsche......they're absolutely huge, compared to the Porsches of the 70s & 
earlier), lighter and really "talk" to the driver, rather than attempt to 
insulate the driver from the driving experience.  The other group of PCA 
members enjoying their cars are the ones who participate in the DE programs, 
track day events and PCA club racing.  Like 'em or not, the Porsche Club of 
America is really a good organization and does a good job of educating and 
entertaining their membership.  They've recently re-discovered Porsche's 
older models, too, which is one of the reasons I re-joined a couple of years 
ago.
Do they really get as much enjoyment out of their cars as, say, the guys in 
my local MG or Triumph clubs do?  Probably not.  In fact, not even close. 
But, they think they do, so who am I to burst their bubble?
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area


>" PCA recognized the fact that probably 98% of new Porsche owners have no
> clue about how to maintain control of their Porsches under high speed
> conditions. "
>
> Hmmmm, Is this poetic justice for those corporate execs collecting those
> $50-Mil bonuses?
>
> jay

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Mon May  3 15:05:49 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 14:05:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Look what you get for $1500 on the west coast!
Message-ID: <302726.10258.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/1721590927.html

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon May  3 15:18:49 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:18:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
Message-ID: <2f581.32ac9f5b.391097b9@aol.com>

Me to except: royalty, footballers, estate agents, lawyers, the  judiciary, 
anywork at work who got promoted higher than me and didn't deserve it  
......
 
In a message dated 03/05/2010 21:05:11 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com  
writes:

I refuse  to 
dislike someone simply because they have attained more, in terms of  
material 
wealth, than I have.  

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon May  3 15:47:17 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 16:47:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Look what you get for $1500 on the west coast!
In-Reply-To: <302726.10258.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <302726.10258.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <r2s43840a7e1005031447p6b6d3a4bx779631ca0da2e582@mail.gmail.com>

Assuming that you bought it, Ed??

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/1721590927.html
>
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> _______________________________________________
>
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>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon May  3 15:53:53 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 14:53:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Look what you get for $1500 on the west coast!
In-Reply-To: <302726.10258.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <302726.10258.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BDF45F1.1693.1B55ECA@kk7ss.verizon.net>

He says "A car backed into it and punched in a headlight and bent the fendor and hood. "

I can't see any damage to the hood or light!  My bad eyesight or is he using old pictures?

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 3 May 2010 at 14:05, Edward Perez wrote:

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/1721590927.html

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon May  3 15:58:26 2010
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:58:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Going on my Christmas List
Message-ID: <x2q8c1781041005031458j2e229554ne6894849d7e6c71@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.bustedtees.com/boringnascar

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon May  3 16:24:10 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:24:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Track
Message-ID: <464553.49524.qm@web180206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per jay...
> That was done in North Carolina.

  Where is the one in NC?
 Ed in NC

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Mon May  3 16:32:43 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:32:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Look what you get for $1500 on the west coast!
In-Reply-To: <r2s43840a7e1005031447p6b6d3a4bx779631ca0da2e582@mail.gmail.com>
References: <302726.10258.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<r2s43840a7e1005031447p6b6d3a4bx779631ca0da2e582@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <889905.25666.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I wish I could.... I have my hands full with one of these....  

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
________________________________
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To:
Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, May
3, 2010 2:47:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Look what you get for $1500 on the
west coast!

Assuming that you bought it, Ed??

Cheers!!
Jim


On Mon, May 3,
2010 at 4:05 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/1721590927.html
>
>> Edward Perez
>>Snohomish, WA
>>78 Midget (1275)
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>>_______________________________________________
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
bIn my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless
man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Mon May  3 18:53:06 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 20:53:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] CARK
In-Reply-To: <4BDE4439.9090204@frontiernet.net>
References: <F4711B6C3CF7419FB273596B17E8CE7B@Dell9200>
	<z2s43840a7e1005021131pec66ebedm2375e2eecac5e8a1@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <201005040053.o440rG21006237@mail.usimperio.com>

Tell them to get a life and a real car..........


Dave



At 11:34 PM 5/2/2010, you wrote:
>You might also want to know that the International Triumph 
>Anti-defamation League has filed suit against you in the amount of 
>$24 billion because of your blatant discrimination against Triumph.
>
>Kate
>
>
>Jim Johnson wrote:
>>Mark,
>>
>>Be sure to check your local building codes and licensing requirements...
>>Also the CARK Construction Union (CCU) will need to be involved. Finally,
>>you will need a Marine Salvage License, a seaworthiness certificate and a
>>Merchant Marine Navigator and Pilot's license as well as appropriate marine
>>liability insurance. I'm sure there are other things invloved but don't
>>worry...  the building and fire inspection people will usually point them
>>our for you...
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>Cheers!!
>>Jim
>>
>>P.S.  Have your feet started growing webs yet?
>>
>>On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Wanted helpers to build "CARK"!  12 inches of rain in last 24 hours in
>>>Nashville.  I will be collecting 2 of each model British cars, sorry no
>>>Triumphs.
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>Nashville

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon May  3 20:07:03 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:07:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Look what you get for $1500 on the west coast!
In-Reply-To: <302726.10258.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C804CF57.26C52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Is that Convington Washington?
If it was 1100 miles closer I'd get it.
I wonder how much UPS would charge for delivery.

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon May  3 20:38:45 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 21:38:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Look what you get for $1500 on the west coast!
In-Reply-To: <C804CF57.26C52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C804CF57.26C52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4BDF88B5.6030104@justbrits.com>

<< I wonder how much UPS would charge for delivery. >>

FedEx about $400, Billy !!!

<VBEG> !!

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon May  3 22:43:54 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 23:43:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Not so fast
Message-ID: <AANLkTinCvf90nSV6G-IN1ZXHOHwSaqHxsVR09OEhVP-X@mail.gmail.com>

This article (linked below) really sums up what I've been trying to
convince myself, and some of those near me, of for the past few years
- we need to slow down.

Thanks in part to my MG I've been able to do some slowing down and
enjoying the scenery of life.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203550604574358643117407778.html

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Tue May  4 05:55:16 2010
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 12:55:16 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Joe  - a cup of
Message-ID: <E0C169CB07FC44CC957B3237396AE3B5@desktop>

Subject: A cup of Joe

Since hearing my friend Jim refer to coffee as "a cup of Joe" (even though I
have heard it called that several times during my life). I started wondering
where the phrase came from - - - well, Thank God for the computer cause what
you see below is what I found - - - - -


In 1914, the secretary of the US Navy, Admiral Josephus 'Joe' Daniels
abolished the officers' wine mess. From that time on the strongest (and
apparently therefore the drink of choice) on board navy ships was coffee. It
was dubbed 'a cup of Joe' after the secretary.

'A cup of Joe' also refers to the GIs' favourite drink. During World War II
the US defence workers were supplied with as much coffee as they wanted.
Coffee was a source of warmth and comfort for battle-weary troops.
The slang was popular enough to be included in the Reserve Officer's Manual of
1931.
A variation on this theme has it that Joe refers to the average Joe, thus
making 'a cup of Joe' the average drink of the average man. So there you have
it.

BUT , In the British royal navy the grog ration was discontinued only in 1970,
Navy rum was 95.5 proof, or 47.75% alcohol; the usual ration was an eighth of
a pint, diluted 2:1 with water (3:1 until World War 2). Extra rum rations were
provided for special celebrations, like Trafalgar Day, and sailors might share
their ration with the cook or with a messmate celebrating a birthday. Ratings
were then given an extra can of beer each day as compensation for the loss of
their tot of rum .
Did you know that ?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May  4 06:30:25 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 08:30:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Calendar, month of May
In-Reply-To: <q2lfbc9308f1005031046mfffbed99h4908eb1233afe7ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2kfbc9308f1004301346m61c544e3w634db8a95f12b52d@mail.gmail.com>
	<g2g402188521005021817oee99fb48t96bd9dc54033dd4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<y2gfbc9308f1005030803m335b6386ve2af9aaa2ce94c85@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2v205cef431005031043i8f3bedeck33529fbca799243d@mail.gmail.com>
	<q2lfbc9308f1005031046mfffbed99h4908eb1233afe7ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <t2u205cef431005040530lcb516242jf3d50fea51134e59@mail.gmail.com>

Wow Rick Tuppy sure looked like she loved those kids : ) Is that the gate
she & her little friend Thatcher adventured out from I can visualize it
nicely : )
Thanks so much, hang in there.
Lin

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Linda,
> Here's a Picasa web album with both of them - mainly pics of Tuppy though.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/Boxers#
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>> I am so sorry for the loss of Tuppy.* *I loved the way you explained her
>> last adventure and I am glad she had that last adventure. I'm also glad you
>> are thinking of her little friend Thatcher and finding a homeless Boxer for
>> companionship, she would have wanted it that way.
>> Can you send me a picture of the two of them?
>> Hang in there.
>> Linda
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks David, and to all who took the time to contact me.
>>> It's been a week now and it's getting a little easier every day.
>>> I contacted the Washington Boxer Rescue people yesterday, looking into
>>> finding a companion for our big boy boxer Thatcher.
>>> He's pretty mopey still, and when he goes out into the backyard he looks
>>> around for a while and goes back to the door.
>>> I know he misses Tuppy, maybe not in the same way as we do but he does
>>> miss
>>> her.
>>> Anyway, thanks again. I need to get Thatcher out in the car for some top
>>> down driving - if it ever gets up above 50 degrees and stops raining!!
>>>
>>> Rick Bastedo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Rick,
>>> > Sorry about the loss, even expected, it is just as hard. Glad that the
>>> > calendar timed it well. Enjoy!
>>> > David L
>>>  >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > I'm very grateful that the picture of my Sprite with my dog Tuppy has
>>> > such a
>>> > > great place in the center of the May page.
>>> > > Our Boxer Tuppy died this past Monday, I've turned my calendar to May
>>> > early
>>> > > as it helps me to see her there.
>>> > >
>>> > > She had surgery last May to remove a cancerous growth and her spleen.
>>> > > We knew her time was short, and so we tried to make every day count
>>> over
>>> > the
>>> > > past 11 months.
>>> > >
>>> > > She wasn't feeling well Monday after her nap, she went outside with
>>> our
>>> > > other Boxer Thatcher.
>>> > > They escaped the yard for one last adventure, we found her and
>>> brought
>>> > her
>>> > > home within about 10 minutes of their escape.
>>> > > She was pale and just wanted to lay and rest, she passed away a
>>> couple
>>> > hours
>>> > > later in peace with her family around her.
>>> > > She would have been 8 years old this June.
>>> > > Our family has been grieving her loss this week, she was a great
>>> friend
>>> > and
>>> > > we miss her.
>>> > >
>>> > > Rick Bastedo
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue May  4 08:02:26 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:02:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <2f581.32ac9f5b.391097b9@aol.com>
References: <2f581.32ac9f5b.391097b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w4123A4F3619A9DE269E81FB8F30@phx.gbl>

Well, I guess that counts me out ...
I sold Real Estate for a time.  My wife is a lawyer ... and, I've been told
more than once that I'm a royal pain ...

> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> Me to except: royalty, footballers, estate agents, lawyers, the  judiciary,
> anywork at work who got promoted higher than me and didn't deserve it
> ......
>
> In a message dated 03/05/2010 21:05:11 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com
> writes:
>
> I refuse  to
> dislike someone simply because they have attained more, in terms of
> material
> wealth, than I have.
> _______________________________________________

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 10:35:49 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:35:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...
Message-ID: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/clt/1721623949.html

See if you can find the MG logo....

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue May  4 11:12:41 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 13:12:41 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
Message-ID: <197a.53ebb67e.3911af89@aol.com>

Being a Spridget owner redeems you!
 
 
In a message dated 04/05/2010 15:19:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

Well, I  guess that counts me out ...
I sold Real Estate for a time.  My wife  is a lawyer ... and, I've been told
more than once that I'm a royal pain  ...

> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> Me to except:  royalty, footballers, estate agents, lawyers, the  
judiciary,
>  anywork at work who got promoted higher than me and didn't deserve it
>  ......
>
> In a message dated 03/05/2010 21:05:11 GMT Daylight  Time, abcoz at hky.com
> writes:
>
> I refuse  to
>  dislike someone simply because they have attained more, in terms of
>  material
> wealth, than I have.
>  _______________________________________________
_______________________________________________

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue May  4 11:26:53 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 13:26:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces
In-Reply-To: <4BD8B1FD.70202@comcast.net>
References: <4BD8B1FD.70202@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w32AE3D7EFEA2637396CFB7C2F30@phx.gbl>

Did she sell Frank? What was/is she asking for her?

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:09:01 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces
>
> I just received an email from the girl who bought PIECES 4 years ago.
> She will have it at Britfest with a forsale sign on it.
> So if anybody is interested in a round wheel arch Midget with a Bugeye
> front end and right hand drive, let me know.
> I know what she paid, maybe she is selling it for less, maybe more
> but if anybody wants a second chance at a great Sprite, let me know.
> Or see it in person Saturday at Britfest.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue May  4 11:31:34 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 13:31:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <58C710F9BF37414782D47ACF8177E0C3@spider>
References: <ABF7791CB8C645108E985D2F8BCE343B@HomePC>,
	<313988.84937.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<58C710F9BF37414782D47ACF8177E0C3@spider>
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Nope, that was a 959. Uber-expensive hyper car, not legal here.
1996-88. Twin turbo, water cooled 444hp flat 6, awd.
Amazing car for it's time.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
>
> Is that the one that Bill Gates brought into the country?  ...bill in
> corvallis
> ==

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue May  4 11:33:05 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 13:33:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
In-Reply-To: <313988.84937.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <ABF7791CB8C645108E985D2F8BCE343B@HomePC>,
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Good Luck Ron,

Bet it drives a bit different than White Trash. :-0
Probably not better, but definitely different!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:57:06 -0700
> From: soavero at yahoo.com
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsche 928 for sale Madison WI area
>
> --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > be too bad of a car, but if the repair/maintenance costs
> > are anything like
> > my 911 was, I'd rather buy a house on the lake.
>
> LAD,
> My friend Douglas had one. After he sold it, he did just that, but he was
able to buy the lake.
>
> My buddy just bought an 87 930 turbo. He wants me to teach him at Blackhawk.
YIKES.
>
> Ron
> _______________________________________________
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue May  4 12:42:34 2010
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:42:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...
In-Reply-To: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <02ff01caebb9$8fbb89f0$af329dd0$@net>

I've always loved the signs that say 'Live Nudes'.  As opposed to what?
Dead ones?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Edward Perez
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:36 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/clt/1721623949.html

See if you can find the MG logo....

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From lindlaw at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 13:32:16 2010
From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 12:32:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR
Message-ID: <277364.89819.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

For a 94 Celica GT liftback: In California, spirited mixed street/fway driving. Priorities are handling/noise/ wear in that order. Oh yeah, price since I will be buying 4. The ciurrent size (205/55 x 15 seem to be disporportionately expensive, so what about a 60 series?
Ed in SD

PS: Don't tell Frank

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Tue May  4 15:05:14 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 14:05:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...
In-Reply-To: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BE08C0A.80100@cox.net>

On 5/4/2010 9:35 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/clt/1721623949.html
>
> See if you can find the MG logo....
>    
Gotta love the Rat Fink. He's already on my tool box. :-)

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue May  4 15:40:44 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:40:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...
In-Reply-To: <4BE08C0A.80100@cox.net>
References: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<4BE08C0A.80100@cox.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w6282FDC7690B7FBE2822EEB8F30@phx.gbl>

I've always wanted a neon "Rock 'n' Roll" like the John Lennon album cover.

Robert D

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May  4 15:46:02 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 16:46:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...
In-Reply-To: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <982958.47747.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BE0959A.7030100@justbrits.com>

I am ASHAMED that YOU 'share' a name with ME but only
AFTER you stoop SO low as to make me DROOL on my desk
[AND envious of any/all purchasers!]  !!!

I ONLY would like a half-DOZEN of the DAMNED things !!!!

You are CRUEL to the CORE !!!!!

You SHOULD be BANNED from being a LBC Owner, BANNED
from ANY/ALL LBC Mailing Lists, be sent to Siberia, be restricted to 
ONLY driving CHINESE *cars* [spec'ed by other Asian Companies], be MADE 
to work for Frank restoring ONLY Big
Healeys that can ONLY be sold for $ 0.01 *profit*, and etc. !!!!

Oh the SHAME of it ALL !!!!!!!!!

Arizona Albert

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue May  4 15:55:17 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:55:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Guy at Gas Station - Deal on a 911?
Message-ID: <n2u37dc82d41005041455k7063dbcmd7abf6293c16394b@mail.gmail.com>

 I ran into a guy at a gas station today with a super clean Porsche.  .
rebuilt engine with all the receipts. .  he paid 7k for the car.

I would have jumped at a deal like that.  Sounds like be bought it for much
less than the 20k I typically see these cars selling for?

Porsche 911 Carrera Targa (even though the Targa part is a bit of a turn off
for me.  . yet original red paint in like new condition. . the car had been
stored for a number of years).

When he pulled out the engine sounded tight.  I don't recall the year. . but
it has the 2.7 . . .

I told him to Google for info on the 2.7 as I believe that they had cam
tensioner problems that need to be addressed?

Kirk

From richb at u.washington.edu  Tue May  4 16:35:13 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 15:35:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
Message-ID: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>

Spring is here for most of us and that means it is time for a meeting of the
Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit.

NOSHIT 3 will take place on Saturday May 15th at Phil Jones house in North
Seattle.  Phil has a nice dedicated, well equipped, two MG garage and ample
work space.  Currently we have two major projects scheduled.  We will be
replacing rear bushings and leaf springs in Bill L '66 Sprite, and swapping in
a Datsun 5 speed  and a rear hub on Ed's 1275 equipped '78 Midget.  There will
be plenty of help available for other projects that need to be done on any car
there.  What do you want help with?

If you have something on your car that needs attention, or you would like to
just join in and lend a hand let me know, and get your parts ordered.  The
more the merrier.

Here is a link to photos of past NOSHIT gatherings.

NOSHIT I
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/

NOSHIT II
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/NOSHIT%20II/

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue May  4 16:49:49 2010
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 18:49:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Joe  - a cup of
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9245.1272990885.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9245.1272990885.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4BE0A48D.50408@comcast.net>

Alan East-Jones wrote:
> In 1914, the secretary of the US Navy, Admiral Josephus 'Joe' Daniels
> abolished the officers' wine mess. From that time on the strongest (and
> apparently therefore the drink of choice) on board navy ships was coffee. It
> was dubbed 'a cup of Joe' after the secretary.

Not to burst your bubble, but Snopes says, "It's a charming theory, but it
just doesn't hold up." and "There are two stronger theories for how "coffee"
came to be "joe," but neither is verifiable."  Not that Snopes is infallible.

<http://www.snopes.com/language/eponyms/cupofjoe.asp>

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May  4 16:55:45 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:55:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w32AE3D7EFEA2637396CFB7C2F30@phx.gbl>
References: <4BD8B1FD.70202@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w32AE3D7EFEA2637396CFB7C2F30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <p2r205cef431005041555zccfc6da2x5b925992a18b714a@mail.gmail.com>

She wanted a little over 7K as I recall, sorry I missed the photo op. It
looked dirty under the hood she appeared as though she never opens the hood.
So that tells us how good a car it is  as I am guessing it never ever gives
her any trouble : ) There was a little bubbling of paint near the wheel well
but nothing a little welding and blend can't fix. She would have to clean it
up really well to get that price which she should have before she came to
the show. Although she only parked it in the lot not in the show I think she
might have been able to get some interest if she put it in the show.

I spoke with her for a while and she said she is only selling it because she
needs foot surgury and has no insurance but she also said the friend whith
her just sold her LBC an MGB I think so it made it easier to make the
decition to sell.

Lin

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:26 PM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Did she sell Frank? What was/is she asking for her?
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:09:01 -0400
> > From: spritenut at comcast.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces
> >
> > I just received an email from the girl who bought PIECES 4 years ago.
> > She will have it at Britfest with a forsale sign on it.
> > So if anybody is interested in a round wheel arch Midget with a Bugeye
> > front end and right hand drive, let me know.
> > I know what she paid, maybe she is selling it for less, maybe more
> > but if anybody wants a second chance at a great Sprite, let me know.
> > Or see it in person Saturday at Britfest.
> >
> > --
> > Frank Clarici
> > Toms River, NJ
> > Lots of Sprites
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May  4 17:21:02 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:21:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
In-Reply-To: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <t2g205cef431005041621k2af02ea0v412f26e67d0f4a4f@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like a ton of fun : )
Thanks for the pictures and I really like the stripes .......hint hint Frank
; )
Linda from Nj

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Richard Ball <richb at u.washington.edu> wrote:

> Spring is here for most of us and that means it is time for a meeting of
> the
> Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit.
>
> NOSHIT 3 will take place on Saturday May 15th at Phil Jones house in North
> Seattle.  Phil has a nice dedicated, well equipped, two MG garage and ample
> work space.  Currently we have two major projects scheduled.  We will be
> replacing rear bushings and leaf springs in Bill L '66 Sprite, and swapping
> in
> a Datsun 5 speed  and a rear hub on Ed's 1275 equipped '78 Midget.  There
> will
> be plenty of help available for other projects that need to be done on any
> car
> there.  What do you want help with?
>
> If you have something on your car that needs attention, or you would like
> to
> just join in and lend a hand let me know, and get your parts ordered.  The
> more the merrier.
>
> Here is a link to photos of past NOSHIT gatherings.
>
> NOSHIT I
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/
>
> NOSHIT II
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/NOSHIT%20II/
>
> Rich Ball
> '76 Midget
> Everett, WA
> _______________________________________________
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue May  4 17:38:22 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:38:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces
In-Reply-To: <p2r205cef431005041555zccfc6da2x5b925992a18b714a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BD8B1FD.70202@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w32AE3D7EFEA2637396CFB7C2F30@phx.gbl>
	<p2r205cef431005041555zccfc6da2x5b925992a18b714a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <j2we98d88091005041638nc05d3c9dq950c487925d74167@mail.gmail.com>

Lin, a guy I work with needed some help at his house. While I was there, I
see his daughter has a VW bus, but not JUST a bus, a SHORT bus. This thing
is so short, it can't use standard bug cables for the throttle and E brake.
Do you know where one can buy cables for the old fiberglass dune buggy's, as
they had to have the pan shortened to put the body on them.
Daddy told me that the engine is build warm. Warm enough that the thing pops
wheelies every time they take off in it. I guess they need some tractor pull
truck weights mounted in the front. <BG>
Thanks
Brad

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> She wanted a little over 7K as I recall, sorry I missed the photo op. It
> looked dirty under the hood she appeared as though she never opens the
> hood.
> So that tells us how good a car it is  as I am guessing it never ever gives
> her any trouble : ) There was a little bubbling of paint near the wheel
> well
> but nothing a little welding and blend can't fix. She would have to clean
> it
> up really well to get that price which she should have before she came to
> the show. Although she only parked it in the lot not in the show I think
> she
> might have been able to get some interest if she put it in the show.
>
> I spoke with her for a while and she said she is only selling it because
> she
> needs foot surgury and has no insurance but she also said the friend whith
> her just sold her LBC an MGB I think so it made it easier to make the
> decition to sell.
>
> Lin
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:26 PM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Did she sell Frank? What was/is she asking for her?
> >
> > Brian S.
> > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:09:01 -0400
> > > From: spritenut at comcast.net
> > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [Spridgets] Pieces
> > >
> > > I just received an email from the girl who bought PIECES 4 years ago.
> > > She will have it at Britfest with a forsale sign on it.
> > > So if anybody is interested in a round wheel arch Midget with a Bugeye
> > > front end and right hand drive, let me know.
> > > I know what she paid, maybe she is selling it for less, maybe more
> > > but if anybody wants a second chance at a great Sprite, let me know.
> > > Or see it in person Saturday at Britfest.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Frank Clarici
> > > Toms River, NJ
> > > Lots of Sprites
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> your
> > inbox.
> >
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> > :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 18:52:59 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:52:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???
Message-ID: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Drove from Murfreesboro TN to Roscoe IL today (in a 2008 BMW 328i, 1400 miles in 2 days, average 77 mph, top 119 mph, and 32.1 MPG; amazing). Just north of Nashville (floods!) at around 9 am saw a red TR-4 on I-24 . Was that you, Mark??? I may be off base, but I thought you had a TR4 as well?

Ron

From pilotrob at msn.com  Tue May  4 19:02:23 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 01:02:23 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds8F439888855BFCD561816D4F40@phx.gbl>

Had great experience with M&S T/A's having same priorities as your goodself. :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Lindley
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2010 3:32 PM
To: 1-AH-9issa, 1-Midget/Sprite, 1-Spridgets, 1-Toyota
Subject: [midgetsprite] TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR

For a 94 Celica GT liftback: In California, spirited mixed street/fway driving. Priorities are handling/noise/ wear in that order. Oh yeah, price since I will be buying 4. The ciurrent size (205/55 x 15 seem to be disporportionately expensive, so what about a 60 series?
Ed in SD

PS: Don't tell Frank

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue May  4 19:06:56 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:06:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Guy at Gas Station - Deal on a 911?
In-Reply-To: <n2u37dc82d41005041455k7063dbcmd7abf6293c16394b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2u37dc82d41005041455k7063dbcmd7abf6293c16394b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C7E6510C9574F4899293A47FFF345C8@OwnerPC>

Kirk,
The cam chain tensioners were somewhat problematic on all 911s up until, 
well, I forget but it was on the 911SC (I think) that they finally arrived 
at a solution.  The main problem with the 2.7 was the head studs pulling out 
of the crankcase, along with a few other issues related to emission control. 
However, most of the 2.7s still running around have had all of the "issues" 
addressed and can be very good engines.  The '74 thru '77 911 (which are the 
ones using the 2.7) are the least desirable of the series, although they can 
still be very good cars.  But, they are the least expensive 911 to purchase, 
right now and can be had in really good shape for under $12K.  I very nearly 
bought a '77 911S for $10K two years ago (wish I had gone through with 
it.....the car is now in Spain).  The engine had been fully rebuilt with all 
of the upgrades and the car was really a strong runner.  It would have 
needed new front fenders, however, as there were some paint bubbles starting 
to show through the original, black paint.  The '74 thru '77 911s did not 
have the fully galvanized body panels and they can develop some rust 
problems as a result.
$7K is a real good price to pay for a 911 of that vintage, provided it is in 
good condition.  Sounds like the guy just found a "motivated" seller and got 
himself a nice car.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Guy at Gas Station - Deal on a 911?


> I ran into a guy at a gas station today with a super clean Porsche.  .
> rebuilt engine with all the receipts. .  he paid 7k for the car.
>
> I would have jumped at a deal like that.  Sounds like be bought it for 
> much
> less than the 20k I typically see these cars selling for?
>
> Porsche 911 Carrera Targa (even though the Targa part is a bit of a turn 
> off
> for me.  . yet original red paint in like new condition. . the car had 
> been
> stored for a number of years).
>
> When he pulled out the engine sounded tight.  I don't recall the year. . 
> but
> it has the 2.7 . . .
>
> I told him to Google for info on the 2.7 as I believe that they had cam
> tensioner problems that need to be addressed?
>
> Kirk

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  4 19:24:46 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 20:24:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???
In-Reply-To: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EB7BF6A26AF849958D3BABDA455FBA3C@HomePC>

119mph?  Uh, Ron, isn't that above the suggested speed limit??

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:52 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???

Drove from Murfreesboro TN to Roscoe IL today (in a 2008 BMW 328i, 1400 
miles in 2 days, average 77 mph, top 119 mph, and 32.1 MPG; amazing). Just 
north of Nashville (floods!) at around 9 am saw a red TR-4 on I-24 . Was 
that you, Mark??? I may be off base, but I thought you had a TR4 as well?

Ron
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May  4 19:36:47 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 20:36:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???
In-Reply-To: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BE0CBAF.8080201@justbrits.com>

<< I may be off base, but I thought you had a TR4 as well? >>

TTBOMK, Mark is strictly a Frogeye person these
days, 'Hopper !!!

I've got some pics of his OLD LBCs "somewhere" -:)-:) !!

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May  4 19:51:22 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 20:51:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
In-Reply-To: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <4BE0CF1A.3000203@justbrits.com>

<< Here is a link to photos of past NOSHIT gatherings. >>

Also to be found on my site:
-->Spec.Car & Spec.People -->Sprites OR Midgets, Rich.

I would be more then happy to host the pics if yer
interested -:) !!!

Ed

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 19:53:57 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:53:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???
In-Reply-To: <EB7BF6A26AF849958D3BABDA455FBA3C@HomePC>
Message-ID: <497142.28960.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 119mph? 
Uh, Ron, isn't that
> above the suggested speed limit??


It sounds more
roguish than it is. I normally don't speed on the street (77 on the highway
had me getting passed by everything including cops). I had JUST gotten back on
the road after hanging up with Flounder and was feeling the racing love. There
was a spectacular, empty on ramp in Georgia, triple S chicane, no traffic on
I-75. There was a bank, it had an OBVIOUS racing line, so I told Mom to hold
on to see how stable the car was (I am considering a coupe). Put the pedal
down in semi-auto mode, car was absolutely drama free, I lifted once it
settled into the blend line (sorry, I forget what it's called in real life). I
would have guessed maybe 80 MPH. Speedo was dipping below 100 quickly when I
looked. Checked GPS max speed and it was 119. White Trash is more dramatic on
a pace lap. And as far as the inline 6 debate, if there's one smoother than
the Bimmer's, I'm all ears.

Ron

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May  4 19:57:51 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 21:57:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???
In-Reply-To: <EB7BF6A26AF849958D3BABDA455FBA3C@HomePC>
References: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<EB7BF6A26AF849958D3BABDA455FBA3C@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4BE0D09F.7020201@comcast.net>

On 5/4/2010 9:24 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:
> 119mph?  Uh, Ron, isn't that above the suggested speed limit??

Key word in this message is *suggested*
If you meant something about the *law*, Ron is ABOVE the law, we all 
know that ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue May  4 20:10:35 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:10:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???
In-Reply-To: <4BE0D09F.7020201@comcast.net>
References: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<EB7BF6A26AF849958D3BABDA455FBA3C@HomePC>
	<4BE0D09F.7020201@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <51C19D4096FF4DB397F0BD3EE4455B1E@HomePC>

Evidently he is, Frank.  Even his Mom didn't slap him silly for doing that. 
Gonna have to talk to her at Blackhawk this year.  Not quite sure what was 
going on there.  Hell, my wife gets on my case at anything over 90.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:57 PM
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???

On 5/4/2010 9:24 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:
> 119mph?  Uh, Ron, isn't that above the suggested speed limit??

Key word in this message is *suggested*
If you meant something about the *law*, Ron is ABOVE the law, we all
know that ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites 

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue May  4 20:51:58 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
In-Reply-To: <4BE0CF1A.3000203@justbrits.com>
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
	<4BE0CF1A.3000203@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <765823.11078.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I will need to tow mine since I need to load up the truck with tools and parts.  It's approximately 18 miles to Phil's house.  I'm not confident towing it on the freeway with the bad wheel bearing.  It vibrates pretty bad with the drive-train in neutral.  Usually around 45+ mph.  I'll take one of the main arterial routes down and go a little slower.  Should I pull the drive-shaft?  Any other thoughts on towing it?

I'd love to drive it home on the freeway!!

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 6:51:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call

<< Here is a link to photos of past NOSHIT gatherings. >>

Also to be found on my site:
-->Spec.Car & Spec.People -->Sprites OR Midgets, Rich.

I would be more then happy to host the pics if yer
interested -:) !!!

Ed
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue May  4 21:22:54 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:22:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR
In-Reply-To: <277364.89819.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I've had good luck with Kumhos.  (Don't tell Frank)   I had some on my
F-150 that did well and I have some on the Miata that are great.  I
like to "play" in the rain and the Kumhos have very good wet traction.

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed May  5 01:45:35 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 08:45:35 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu><4BE0CF1A.3000203@justbrits.com>
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Edward,

Pull the drive shaft and you'll have gearbox oil in a trail from home.  The 
drive shaft holds the seal in place at the back of the gearbox.
If it is a wheel bearing that is going then towing really is as bad as 
driving it - so towing it is a bit of a no-no.  Speed won't make too much 
difference it is the rotation of the bearing that will chew it up.   Going 
slower may simply mean when everything collapses you'll be able to stop 
quicker!  If you could lift the bad axle on a towing dolly that would be 
fine.
18 miles is around a 30-40min drive.  Will it last that long?

Best of luck,

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 

Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call


>I will need to tow mine since I need to load up the truck with tools and 
>parts.  It's approximately 18 miles to Phil's house.  I'm not confident 
>towing it on the freeway with the bad wheel bearing.  It vibrates pretty 
>bad with the drive-train in neutral.  Usually around 45+ mph.  I'll take 
>one of the main arterial routes down and go a little slower.  Should I pull 
>the drive-shaft?  Any other thoughts on towing it?
>
> I'd love to drive it home on the freeway!!
>
> Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 6:51:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
>
> << Here is a link to photos of past NOSHIT gatherings. >>
>
> Also to be found on my site:
> -->Spec.Car & Spec.People -->Sprites OR Midgets, Rich.
>
> I would be more then happy to host the pics if yer
> interested -:) !!!
>
> Ed

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Wed May  5 03:37:46 2010
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 02:37:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] crossflow heads
Message-ID: <511712.4487.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Greetings

has anyone tried one of these alloy cross flow heads yet?
as seen on ebay.
Item
 number:230468115034

If it is so good why dont they put flow figures etc.

Andy

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 05:27:06 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 04:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
Message-ID: <354455.47654.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Call AAA for a tow!!! Skip J.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed May  5 07:15:10 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 13:15:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha
Message-ID: <943014136.19559851273065310653.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-convertible-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-7K-MILES-PERFECT-COND-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53e11d 

Ryan 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May  5 07:44:38 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 06:44:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha
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Pulled

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ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:15 AM
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-convertible-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-7
K-MILES-PERFECT-COND-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53e11d 

Ryan 
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May  5 07:47:35 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 06:47:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha - Better Link
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360259123878


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:15 AM
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-convertible-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-7
K-MILES-PERFECT-COND-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53e11d 

Ryan 
_______________________________________________

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Wed May  5 08:13:25 2010
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:13:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha
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Message-ID: <000001caec5d$216bd870$64438950$@net>

How about this one
Ebay item 310134865166

Herb Miller

-----Original Message-----
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ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:15 AM
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-convertible-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-7
K-MILES-PERFECT-COND-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53e11d 

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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed May  5 08:15:33 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 07:15:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
In-Reply-To: <EBF3C70C008D43848F5D2466A4C8F24F@user8634b3d69b>
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>,
	<EBF3C70C008D43848F5D2466A4C8F24F@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <4BE17D85.16504.18B1B2@kk7ss.verizon.net>

You could tow it with the back wheels on the dolly...

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 5 May 2010 at 8:45, Guy R Day wrote:

> Pull the drive shaft and you'll have gearbox oil in a trail from home

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May  5 08:22:53 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 07:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha - Better Link
In-Reply-To: <AC135511BB8B44ECA1E4529DEFB932B7@spider>
Message-ID: <51278.5226.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

The price might be excessive, but it appears to be an extremely clean, original, unmolested car. 

jay

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360259123878

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed May  5 08:23:24 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 10:23:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mark in Nashville???
In-Reply-To: <4BE0D09F.7020201@comcast.net>
References: <483379.19936.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<EB7BF6A26AF849958D3BABDA455FBA3C@HomePC>
	<4BE0D09F.7020201@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EAF8614727564885823B3BE030A1F06B@Home>

>Key word in this message is *suggested*

Anyone driving the speed limit on the Long Island Expressway would be killed 
in a rearend collision within minutes.  Provided , of course, that they were 
not killed sooner by Road-Rage Roger.

Michael Rowe 

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 08:43:23 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 07:43:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...
In-Reply-To: <4BE0959A.7030100@justbrits.com>
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	<4BE0959A.7030100@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <180108.98161.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You like the signs, eh Ed?  How many did you buy??

BTW, I've been to Siberia and driven RUSSIAN cars....it does not get any worse than that, Albert...

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 2:46:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dress up your shop and impress your friends...

I am ASHAMED that YOU 'share' a name with ME but only
AFTER you stoop SO low as to make me DROOL on my desk
[AND envious of any/all purchasers!]  !!!

I ONLY would like a half-DOZEN of the DAMNED things !!!!

You are CRUEL to the CORE !!!!!

You SHOULD be BANNED from being a LBC Owner, BANNED
from ANY/ALL LBC Mailing Lists, be sent to Siberia, be restricted to ONLY driving CHINESE *cars* [spec'ed by other Asian Companies], be MADE to work for Frank restoring ONLY Big
Healeys that can ONLY be sold for $ 0.01 *profit*, and etc. !!!!

Oh the SHAME of it ALL !!!!!!!!!

Arizona Albert
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May  5 08:44:56 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:44:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha - Better Link
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This listing () has been removed, or this item is not available.

   - Please check that you've entered the correct item number
   - Listings that have ended 90 or more days ago will not be available for
   viewing.



On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:47 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360259123878
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:15 AM
> To: spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha
>
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-convertible-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-7
>
K-MILES-PERFECT-COND-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53e11d<http://cgi.ebay.com/e
baymotors/MG-Midget-convertible-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-7%0AK-MILES-PERFECT-CON
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May  5 08:50:51 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:50:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha - Better Link
In-Reply-To: <51278.5226.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <AC135511BB8B44ECA1E4529DEFB932B7@spider>
	<51278.5226.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <w2l43840a7e1005050750k1b9ee21bnd7fa7d1e47a24f91@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed, Jay.  It looks almost too good to be true!  There isn't even any
sign of wear on the door strikers!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> The price might be excessive, but it appears to be an extremely clean,
> original, unmolested car.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Wed, 5/5/10, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360259123878
> _______________________________________________

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Wed May  5 09:12:27 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 08:12:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha - Better Link
Message-ID: <711601caec65$5f9c20c0$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Wow, one of the most complete RB cars I've seen in a long time. Even all
the smog stuff is hooked up, and the seat belts look like the ones that
I took off my old '79 shell. The muffler has the factory x-shaped crimps
too.
 
Price is a bit steep. 
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: 5/5/2010 10:50:51 AM
To: jfishbein at snet.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha - Better Link 

Agreed, Jay. It looks almost too good to be true! There isn't even any 
sign of wear on the door strikers! 

Cheers!! 
Jim 

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote: 

> The price might be excessive, but it appears to be an extremely clean,
> original, unmolested car. 
> 
> jay 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/5/10, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
wrote: 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360259123878 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Wed May  5 09:15:55 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 08:15:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha
Message-ID: <718d01caec65$dbcf04f0$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Still there if you use the shortened link, or item# 360259123878
 
-=Chris

Chris King
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 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [corvallis at peoplepc.com]
Sent: 5/5/2010 9:44:38 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
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Pulled 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:15 AM 
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LE-7 
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 10:11:46 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:11:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] MY OTHER CAR
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-ds8F439888855BFCD561816D4F40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <765287.27848.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Anyone know of a dealer that sells 145r14 or 165R14 tires?
Preferably in So Cal. The cheapest i have found is $70 each.
I know i have seen them for as low as $35 in the past for the same tires.
 
TIA,
 
Vigil

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May  5 10:30:14 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:30:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] crossflow heads
Message-ID: <3a39c.5fceb464.3912f716@aol.com>

None of them have flow bench figures either because they won't spend the  
money having a head tested or they know the flow figure isn't that good.   In 
either case it suggests they didn't develop the head with a flow bench  
either.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 05/05/2010 10:54:10 GMT Daylight Time,  
a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes:

Greetings

has anyone tried one of these alloy cross flow  heads yet?
as seen on ebay.
Item
number:230468115034

If it is  so good why dont they put flow figures  etc.

Andy

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May  5 10:36:48 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:36:48 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Another hahahahahaha - Better Link
Message-ID: <3ab16.3a4e640e.3912f8a0@aol.com>

Yes, be nice if it went to a museum.
 
In a message dated 05/05/2010 15:39:48 GMT Daylight Time,  
jfishbein at snet.net writes:

The  price might be excessive, but it appears to be an extremely clean, 
original,  unmolested car. 

jay

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 10:49:04 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Belmont Shore Pier meet - Wednesday 6-9 pm
Message-ID: <998236.45613.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Any one up to a week day drive.......
 

It is time for the Belmont Shore Pier meet - 1st Wednesday of the month  6-9
pm
You can use the Olympic pool at the base of the pier parking - address for
reference 
4000 Olympic Plaza , Long Beach , CA ,  90803. Proceed into the pier parking
lot.
Turn to the right and you should see other British cars parked in the area. 
The average amount of cars is around 20 cars - Some time as high as 30 or more
cars. 
They have some good attendance when a British car club makes this one of there
events.
Great bunch of people with assorted knowledge on different British cars.
I always have fun at this gathering and meet interesting people. 
No Fee for parking.......That is why it starts at 6 pm.
There is food,soft drinks & Brewery with in walking distance at the Belmont
pier.
 
 
Vigil
So Cal

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Wed May  5 10:52:05 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:52:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [Morris] [midgetsprite] MY OTHER CAR
In-Reply-To: <765287.27848.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <16AD3006-B2D8-4B9B-9A0E-6C4295927401@gerardsgarage.com>

Vigil,

I have a tire guy I rely on regularly and also refer a lot of people  
to him. My only point being he will look for stuff most shops wouldn't  
bother to try to find. He has a lot of sources/suppliers too. Whenever  
I have asked for these sizes, he usually strikes out. Seems with all  
the craze over "supersize" wheels, smaller sizes like 13 and 14 inch,  
and espacially narrow sizes are not made by many manufacturers. Most  
of the molds have been bought up by Coker ($$$) and will likely be the  
only source. The last time I tried to find narrow sizes for a Morris  
Minor, the narrowest I could find in a 14" was 175 or 185.

I recently sold a set of period 70's vintage Vector 14x7 wheels that  
came off an Olds 442. It took me a year to find a buyer because it  
seems the guys today want to put 22" "wagon wheels" on them.

Let me know if you have better luck.

Gerard


On May 5, 2010, at 9:11 AM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Anyone know of a dealer that sells 145r14 or 165R14 tires?
> Preferably in So Cal. The cheapest i have found is $70 each.
> I know i have seen them for as low as $35 in the past for the same  
> tires.
>
> TIA,
>
> Vigil
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From richb at u.washington.edu  Wed May  5 11:18:48 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 10:18:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Free Tools
Message-ID: <D0467E9575FC40438661AE4AB9C5D4BE@psych.washington.edu>

And they're not Chinese either!

I have a Robinair 134a refrigeration gauge set with 6' hoses that was left at
my house by an appliance repair tech several years ago.  I tried several times
to get it back to the tech, but no one has come back to pick it up.  If any of
you would be interested in and would use it, it's yours.  Contact me off list
if your interested and I'll send actual pictures.  In the mean time it is
similar to this model.
http://www.robinair.com/products/detail.php?id=1023

Robinair website:
http://www.robinair.com/

Thanks

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 11:39:55 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
Message-ID: <229960.72917.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/1723387742.html

What were they thinking?

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed May  5 11:50:30 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 13:50:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Guy at Gas Station - Deal on a 911?
Message-ID: <2E60DDA2B1E945C1ADC1F1A5B8CE0C76@OwnerPC>

Oops!  I almost forgot to mention the other, major "issue" with the 2.7 
engines: the OE head studs (the ones that don't pull out of the crankcase) 
tend to break under normal highway driving conditions.  As with the other 
issues with these engines, the factory developed a "fix" (replacing the 
original studs with new ones of a different material......along with inserts 
for the threads in the case) and these engines have mostly, by now, been 
upgraded to the new studs & case inserts.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Guy at Gas Station - Deal on a 911?


> Kirk,
> The cam chain tensioners were somewhat problematic on all 911s up until, 
> well, I forget but it was on the 911SC (I think) that they finally arrived 
> at a solution.  The main problem with the 2.7 was the head studs pulling 
> out of the crankcase, along with a few other issues related to emission 
> control. However, most of the 2.7s still running around have had all of 
> the "issues" addressed and can be very good engines.  The '74 thru '77 911 
> (which are the ones using the 2.7) are the least desirable of the series, 
> although they can still be very good cars.  But, they are the least 
> expensive 911 to purchase, right now and can be had in really good shape 
> for under $12K.  I very nearly bought a '77 911S for $10K two years ago 
> (wish I had gone through with it.....the car is now in Spain).  The engine 
> had been fully rebuilt with all of the upgrades and the car was really a 
> strong runner.  It would have needed new front fenders, however, as there 
> were some paint bubbles starting to show through the original, black 
> paint.  The '74 thru '77 911s did not have the fully galvanized body 
> panels and they can develop some rust problems as a result.
> $7K is a real good price to pay for a 911 of that vintage, provided it is 
> in good condition.  Sounds like the guy just found a "motivated" seller 
> and got himself a nice car.
> Bud Osbourne

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed May  5 11:52:54 2010
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 13:52:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Morris] [midgetsprite] MY OTHER CAR
Message-ID: <6153106.1273081974754.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

A 175/75X14 is very close to a 165X14 - 145s are too small for a Morris anyway and make them look like pedal cars...

Best,

Rick Feibusch
Venice, CA

-----Original Message-----
>From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
>Sent: May 5, 2010 12:11 PM
>To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Sprite <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
>Cc: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>, Morris <morris at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Morris] [midgetsprite] MY OTHER CAR
>
> 
>Anyone know of a dealer that sells 145r14 or 165R14 tires?
>Preferably in So Cal. The cheapest i have found is $70 each.
>I know i have seen them for as low as $35 in the past for the same tires.
> 
>TIA,
> 
>Vigil
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed May  5 12:07:08 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 11:07:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Upcoming New York visit
Message-ID: <4BE1B3CC.3080403@frontiernet.net>

I will be arriving in Albany, NY the evening of June 10th, leaving the 
morning of June, 14th. If anyone is close enough for a visit, I would 
love to meet some of our east coasters. I promise there will be 
absolutely NO political discussions unless you are also right wing 
extremists. Off list me for my phone number and hotel information.

Kate

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed May  5 13:24:25 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:24:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Heads
Message-ID: <k2w37dc82d41005051224nb4971a1do23b7b8873b2b05ff@mail.gmail.com>

What is the advantage in performance, if any, with a cross flow head?  I
have seen them on a Bugeye (think one of the list members has one on his
car)?

Is it worth the trouble to go with a cross flow?

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed May  5 13:34:24 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:34:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question
Message-ID: <i2g37dc82d41005051234w97145f7aj428e58e5626027ac@mail.gmail.com>

eBay item.  . 230468115034

The car is pictured with two DCOE 40's. .

Seems that it would be over carbed unless he is only using the inside of
each carb in order to get a straight in flow through the manifold?

I am always curious about this over carb thing as years ago I over carbed a
small block Chevy that I built.  The engine would have run better if I had
left the Rochester single on it with the original manifold. .  but not me. .
I put a 750 double pumper on the thing not knowing at the time what the heck
I was doing.   I went back to a 650.  . which was more in line with what the
engine was able to handle.

I have yet another question.  We have a late model PT Cruiser with a turbo
(wife's car.  . I don't like the car.  . but it is her thing).

How is it that a turbo can push added air and fuel into the engine when it
comes into boost mode and not over produce too much air and fuel flow for a
small engine.  . while at the same time if one were to install a carb that
was too big, the engine performance would suffer?

Obviously there is something about how an engine accepts the added boost
from a turbo or a super charger that is different compared to installing a
carb that would be too big?

Kirk
59 1275




Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed May  5 13:37:03 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:37:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 22 Thousand Dollar Rubber Bumper Midget on eBay
Message-ID: <n2s37dc82d41005051237t7ef240eby7b1a6ddbee0162f5@mail.gmail.com>

The car looks like is was raised off the ground by a good two inches or
more?

(A 4 wheel drive look sans the 4 wheel drive)?

And at 22k . .

Kirk

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Wed May  5 15:06:46 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 16:06:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question
In-Reply-To: <i2g37dc82d41005051234w97145f7aj428e58e5626027ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2g37dc82d41005051234w97145f7aj428e58e5626027ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <y2sd6f30eca1005051406o6c085c16ic0d1db26b701ae35@mail.gmail.com>

IANAE, but here's how I understand it.

With a carb, the amount of fuel dumped in is determined by the speed of the
air flow.  So as more CFM is fed in to the venturis, more gas is pulled in
to the cylinder. With a turbo or supercharger, it uses the same amount of
fuel as non-boost system, it just crams a lot more air in so that you get
more energy out of the fuel at combustion time.

Greg Gowins
Driftwood, TX

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> eBay item.  . 230468115034
>
> Obviously there is something about how an engine accepts the added boost
> from a turbo or a super charger that is different compared to installing a
> carb that would be too big?
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275
>
>
>
>
> Kirk

From duncan at pondhop.com  Wed May  5 15:38:42 2010
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 16:38:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question
In-Reply-To: <i2g37dc82d41005051234w97145f7aj428e58e5626027ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2g37dc82d41005051234w97145f7aj428e58e5626027ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008601caec9b$56e95a20$04bc0e60$@pondhop.com>

Very simply:

With regular induction the air pressure in the chamber cannot be above
atmospheric in fact will be below depending on VR.
When you add a turbo the air pressure in the chamber is increased by
cramming more air in there. More air requires more fuel to maintain the best
Air Fuel ratio.
More air and more fuel = more power.
The turbo usually has a waste gate to limit the pressure in the cylinder.

When a carb is to big air velocity through the chokes will be lower so it is
more difficult to control the fuel flow.


Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 14:34
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question

eBay item.  . 230468115034

The car is pictured with two DCOE 40's. .

Seems that it would be over carbed unless he is only using the inside of
each carb in order to get a straight in flow through the manifold?

I am always curious about this over carb thing as years ago I over carbed a
small block Chevy that I built.  The engine would have run better if I had
left the Rochester single on it with the original manifold. .  but not me. .
I put a 750 double pumper on the thing not knowing at the time what the heck
I was doing.   I went back to a 650.  . which was more in line with what the
engine was able to handle.

I have yet another question.  We have a late model PT Cruiser with a turbo
(wife's car.  . I don't like the car.  . but it is her thing).

How is it that a turbo can push added air and fuel into the engine when it
comes into boost mode and not over produce too much air and fuel flow for a
small engine.  . while at the same time if one were to install a carb that
was too big, the engine performance would suffer?

Obviously there is something about how an engine accepts the added boost
from a turbo or a super charger that is different compared to installing a
carb that would be too big?

Kirk
59 1275




Kirk
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May  5 15:52:51 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:52:51 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question
Message-ID: <3d456.68ca8466.391342b3@aol.com>

With a carb the amount of fuel dumped in is determined by the jets or  
needles so that even given carb at any given engine speed (air flow) can be made 
 to run rich. Same thing with fuel injection if it's not set correctly, 
injectors  too big etc.
 
A lot of factors limit how much AIR can be drawn into the engine  
(volumetric efficiency??) and given you can always add more fuel to the air than  it 
needs (air/fuel mixture is too rich) it is the overall breathing efficiency  
of the engine that limits power.  The engine sucks in as much air as it is  
capable of whether carb or injection.
 
What a turbo or super charger does is FORCE FEED AIR INTO THE ENGINE.   The 
engine doesn't suck air rather it has air pumped into it, sometimes at  
pressure (tech difference between various types of supercharger and turbo  
charging).
 
More air = more fuel though it's still possible to get a super or turbo  
charged engine to run too rich.  It's also possible to have to little fuel  
with just a carb (or injection) and super or turbo charging.
 
If the turbo or supercharger just put more air into the engine for any  
given amount of fuel the engine would simply run lean and make no more power  
than without a super or turbo charger.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 05/05/2010 22:22:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
eric.t.cartman at gmail.com writes:

With a  carb, the amount of fuel dumped in is determined by the speed of the
air  flow.  So as more CFM is fed in to the venturis, more gas is pulled  in
to the cylinder. With a turbo or supercharger, it uses the same amount  of
fuel as non-boost system, it just crams a lot more air in so that you  get
more energy out of the fuel at combustion time.

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Wed May  5 15:58:27 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 16:58:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question
In-Reply-To: <3d456.68ca8466.391342b3@aol.com>
References: <3d456.68ca8466.391342b3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <r2qd6f30eca1005051458k880e7eafo3e8138b87920b91d@mail.gmail.com>

Understood.  But my recollection was that the reason it wouldn't run lean
was that the turbo/supercharger changed the amount of pressure because it
was forcing the extra air in, over the same volume of air at a normal level
of pressure.  Kinda like how water boils at a lower temp at high altitudes
because of the less dense air, more energy is released from the fuel due to
higher pressure.


On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:52 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

>  With a carb the amount of fuel dumped in is determined by the jets or
> needles so that even given carb at any given engine speed (air flow) can be
> made to run rich. Same thing with fuel injection if it's not set correctly,
> injectors too big etc.
>
> A lot of factors limit how much AIR can be drawn into the engine
> (volumetric efficiency??) and given you can always add more fuel to the air
> than it needs (air/fuel mixture is too rich) it is the overall breathing
> efficiency of the engine that limits power.  The engine sucks in as much air
> as it is capable of whether carb or injection.
>
> What a turbo or super charger does is FORCE FEED AIR INTO THE ENGINE.  The
> engine doesn't suck air rather it has air pumped into it, sometimes at
> pressure (tech difference between various types of supercharger and turbo
> charging).
>
> More air = more fuel though it's still possible to get a super or turbo
> charged engine to run too rich.  It's also possible to have to little fuel
> with just a carb (or injection) and super or turbo charging.
>
> If the turbo or supercharger just put more air into the engine for any
> given amount of fuel the engine would simply run lean and make no more power
> than without a super or turbo charger.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 05/05/2010 22:22:24 GMT Daylight Time,
> eric.t.cartman at gmail.com writes:
>
> With a carb, the amount of fuel dumped in is determined by the speed of the
> air flow.  So as more CFM is fed in to the venturis, more gas is pulled in
> to the cylinder. With a turbo or supercharger, it uses the same amount of
> fuel as non-boost system, it just crams a lot more air in so that you get
> more energy out of the fuel at combustion time.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 16:27:08 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 15:27:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Morris] [midgetsprite] MY OTHER CAR
In-Reply-To: <4BE1CB99.6010909@gte.net>
Message-ID: <902335.42260.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
There out there Kumo and a few others still make them - hard to find - Yes
 
Vigil 

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, Kevin Wayne Williams <kww at gte.net> wrote:


From: Kevin Wayne Williams <kww at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [Morris] [midgetsprite] MY OTHER CAR
To: "list" <morris at autox.team.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 12:48 PM


There isn't a 165 or 175 made that has a recommended minimum rim width
the size of  a stock Minor wheel. 145s are what needs to be run unless
you've swapped the wheel.

Kumho Powerstar 758 is available in a 145/80-14, and works well on a Minor.

http://www.tyretown.com/1096_kumho/powerstar758.htm has them in stock. A
little digging, and you should be able to find a local source.

KWW

rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote:
> A 175/75X14 is very close to a 165X14 - 145s are too small for a Morris
anyway and make them look like pedal cars...
>
> Best,
>
> Rick Feibusch
> Venice, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
>> Sent: May 5, 2010 12:11 PM
>> To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Sprite <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>, Morris <morris at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Morris] [midgetsprite] MY OTHER CAR
>>
>>
>> Anyone know of a dealer that sells 145r14 or 165R14 tires?
>> Preferably in So Cal. The cheapest i have found is $70 each.
>> I know i have seen them for as low as $35 in the past for the same tires.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Vigil
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com  Wed May  5 18:19:55 2010
From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 00:19:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?TIRES-FOR_MY_OTHER_CAR?=
Message-ID: <82.8E.16464.B2B02EB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

I have kumhos on my audi and durango and have no complaints whatsoever.  They are directional summer tires on the audi and have survived the abuse I put them thru quite admirably.

Sent from my HTC Hero.

----- Reply message -----
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 4, 2010 11:22 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR
To: "Ed Lindley" <lindlaw at yahoo.com>
Cc: "1-Midget/Sprite" <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "1-Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "1-Toyota" <classictoyotatown at yahoogroups.com>, "1-AH-9issa" <9issa at justbrits.com>


I've had good luck with Kumhos.  (Don't tell Frank)   I had some on my
F-150 that did well and I have some on the Miata that are great.  I
like to "play" in the rain and the Kumhos have very good wet traction.
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed May  5 18:23:43 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:23:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question
In-Reply-To: <3d456.68ca8466.391342b3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <688840.2254.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sheesh. Google "specific fuel consumption." When you hear of a Sprite dyno'ing
at 150HP, ask what the SFC was. If it's .4, you know it's way bigger than the
.047 overbore allowed.

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
<WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
<WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton -
Turbo Question
> To: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
>
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 4:52 PM
> With a carb the amount of fuel dumped
> in is determined by the jets or  
> needles so that even given carb at any
given engine speed
> (air flow) can be made 
>  to run rich. Same thing with
fuel injection if it's not
> set correctly, 
> injectors  too big etc.
>  
> A
lot of factors limit how much AIR can be drawn into the
> engine  
>
(volumetric efficiency??) and given you can always add more
> fuel to the air
than  it 
> needs (air/fuel mixture is too rich) it is the overall
> breathing
efficiency  
> of the engine that limits power.  The engine sucks in
> as much
air as it is  
> capable of whether carb or injection.
>  
> What a turbo or
super charger does is FORCE FEED AIR INTO
> THE ENGINE.   The 
> engine
doesn't suck air rather it has air pumped into it,
> sometimes at  
> pressure
(tech difference between various types of
> supercharger and turbo  
>
charging).
>  
> More air = more fuel though it's still possible to get a
>
super or turbo  
> charged engine to run too rich.  It's also possible to
>
have to little fuel  
> with just a carb (or injection) and super or turbo
>
charging.
>  
> If the turbo or supercharger just put more air into the
>
engine for any  
> given amount of fuel the engine would simply run lean and
>
make no more power  
> than without a super or turbo charger.
>  
>
Weslake-Monza 1330
>  
> In a message dated 05/05/2010 22:22:24 GMT Daylight
>
Time,  
> eric.t.cartman at gmail.com
> writes:
> 
> With a  carb, the amount of
fuel dumped in is
> determined by the speed of the
> air  flow.  So as more
CFM is fed in to the
> venturis, more gas is pulled  in
> to the cylinder.
With a turbo or supercharger, it uses the
> same amount  of
> fuel as
non-boost system, it just crams a lot more air in
> so that you  get
> more
energy out of the fuel at combustion time.
>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed May  5 18:48:26 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:48:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR
In-Reply-To: <82.8E.16464.B2B02EB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C8075FEA.26D4A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I have kumhos 
I have five new Khumos on the powder coated Sprite rims stacked in the
corner of my amp shop. If I live long enough to get my car off the
rotisserie, I'll let all know how they handle.
BZ 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May  5 18:54:30 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 19:54:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re:  TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR
In-Reply-To: <82.8E.16464.B2B02EB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
References: <82.8E.16464.B2B02EB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4BE21346.2040702@justbrits.com>

<< ...tires on the audi have survived the abuse I put them thru
quite admirably. >>

And considering Tad's LBC [MGCGT], "abuse" would
be a *minor* description !!!!   <VBEG>!!!!

Ed

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed May  5 19:51:08 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 20:51:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] TIRES-FOR MY OTHER CAR
In-Reply-To: <C8075FEA.26D4A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <82.8E.16464.B2B02EB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
	<C8075FEA.26D4A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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> I have five new Khumos on the powder coated Sprite rims stacked in the
> corner of my amp shop. If I live long enough to get my car off the
> rotisserie, I'll let all know how they handle.

By then they will have expired and need replaced.
David L

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Wed May  5 21:13:57 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 20:13:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
In-Reply-To: <229960.72917.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <229960.72917.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BE233F5.8050509@cox.net>

On 5/5/2010 10:39 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/1723387742.html
>
> What were they thinking?
>    
They weren't. Is the trunk occupied by a 3 KW subwoofer?

I don't know what it is about this area. We're just a little south of 
Temecula and the paint job on my son's car is pretty wretched too. Might 
have been done with a box of spray cans.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed May  5 22:34:22 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 23:34:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
In-Reply-To: <4BE233F5.8050509@cox.net>
References: <229960.72917.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BE233F5.8050509@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin8g8RAHI05wdbkcEsmt1JpUl9qNnulpO5z2obl@mail.gmail.com>

Could be worse.

I remember (years back) when my youngest brother put a hoodscoop and
stripes on the Vega Kammback he was driving - he did it himself.  Made
the hood scoop out of a Bud Light 12-pack box and the stripes were
duct tape!

Ah, good times!  Wish I had a picture.  That Vega was possibly the
best truck I ever bought.  Drove it for a couple years while in
college, then gave it to my dad who passed it to my brother.  Little
brother finally blew the rearend out of it doing "neutral slams" to
"impress the girls".



On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:13 PM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:
> On 5/5/2010 10:39 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
>>
>> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/1723387742.html
>>
>> What were they thinking?
>>
>
> They weren't. Is the trunk occupied by a 3 KW subwoofer?
>
> I don't know what it is about this area. We're just a little south of
> Temecula and the paint job on my son's car is pretty wretched too. Might
> have been done with a box of spray cans.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu May  6 00:14:45 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 23:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
In-Reply-To: <4BE233F5.8050509@cox.net>
Message-ID: <894403.39305.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Hay paint a Raders emblem on the hood. He could sell it for a lot......lol

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:


From: David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 8:13 PM


On 5/5/2010 10:39 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/1723387742.html
>
> What were they thinking?
>   
They weren't. Is the trunk occupied by a 3 KW subwoofer?

I don't know what it is about this area. We're just a little south of Temecula
and the paint job on my son's car is pretty wretched too. Might have been done
with a box of spray cans.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Thu May  6 04:55:42 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 03:55:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Train Stuff
Message-ID: <AANLkTilBMxNBS5qtkLJNE6F2XAYtXJTzvcOUvXU6fxdo@mail.gmail.com>

For the train buffs on the list, and you know who you are, I have a set of
pictures I took today at Barstow Yard of the new Hydrogen Hybrid switch
engine if you are interested in seeing them.  Just drop me a line off list
and I will send an invitation to a web album of pics.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
email: rrengineer at dslextreme.com

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu May  6 06:39:30 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 05:39:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
Message-ID: <55d201caed19$2c3ef810$056a010a@mail2world.com>

Duct tape Stripes - did those for the 2006 BABE rally:
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/SkylineTercel.jpg
 
We took this heap down the Dragon too:
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/Dragon.jpg
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Jeff Foster [tr3.4.me at gmail.com]
Sent: 5/6/2010 12:34:22 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget 

Could be worse. 

I remember (years back) when my youngest brother put a hoodscoop and 
stripes on the Vega Kammback he was driving - he did it himself. Made 
the hood scoop out of a Bud Light 12-pack box and the stripes were 
duct tape! 

Ah, good times! Wish I had a picture. That Vega was possibly the 
best truck I ever bought. Drove it for a couple years while in 
college, then gave it to my dad who passed it to my brother. Little 
brother finally blew the rearend out of it doing "neutral slams" to 
"impress the girls". 



On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:13 PM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net>
wrote: 
> On 5/5/2010 10:39 AM, Edward Perez wrote: 
>> 
>> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/1723387742.html 
>> 
>> What were they thinking? 
>> 
> 
> They weren't. Is the trunk occupied by a 3 KW subwoofer? 
> 
> I don't know what it is about this area. We're just a little south of 
> Temecula and the paint job on my son's car is pretty wretched too.
Might 
> have been done with a box of spray cans. 
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From twobees at sprynet.com  Thu May  6 06:42:06 2010
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 08:42:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: Cross Flow Heads
Message-ID: <001101caed19$897ff470$6401a8c0@normoffice>

"What is the advantage in performance, if any, with a cross flow head? I
have seen them on a Bugeye (think one of the list members has one on his
car)?

Is it worth the trouble to go with a cross flow?"

I can't speak about advantage on a Spridget.  But, I put a x-flow on a '66
MGB replacing a well-modified cast iron head.  Also went from 1-1/2" SUs to
1-3/4" SUs.  Most noticeable difference was from idle to 3,000 rpms.  But,
it no doubt created more power in upper rpm ranges as lap times dropped a
lot.

Disadvantage was access to distributor was limited & barely any clearance
between front carb & alternator.

I eventually went to a purpose-built 90% race engine with 5-port cast iron
head & single Weber 45 DCOE estimated at 145 h.p.  That dropped lap times by
more than x-flow from original set up.

Norm

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu May  6 10:33:55 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 11:33:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
In-Reply-To: <55d201caed19$2c3ef810$056a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <55d201caed19$2c3ef810$056a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <AC6994FA-A532-4BBD-BD47-16EE45640F87@comcast.net>

That's nuttin'..

Back in the early 80's we had a sort of Rally Team out of Ruston  
Louisiana.  The one guy who could afford to go to the events was Will  
Wright (Yes gamers, the guy who wrote The Sims") and he bought this  
beat up Ford Econoline Van as a tow vehicle.  Well I got bored one  
afternoon and found all of the racing stickers I could find, Koni,  
Marchall, Cibie', Timewise, everything..  I stuck them in one  
convenient area in a random pattern and then took the lettering  
remaining from having to do the car doors and the side of the van now  
said, "We wish we had sponsors like: " above all the stickers.  Also,  
the fuel filler door had "Nitromethane ONLY!!"  above it and the door  
had "Douglas DC-10" .  Those of you old enough may recall that Douglas  
was having a bit of a problem with that model.. ;-)

Lester

.. alas, no pics..

On May 6, 2010, at 7:39 AM, Chris King wrote:

> Duct tape Stripes - did those for the 2006 BABE rally:
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/SkylineTercel.jpg
>
> We took this heap down the Dragon too:
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/Dragon.jpg
>
> -=Chris
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
>
> <-----Original Message----->
>
> 	  	 From: Jeff Foster [tr3.4.me at gmail.com]
> Sent: 5/6/2010 12:34:22 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
>
> Could be worse.
>
> I remember (years back) when my youngest brother put a hoodscoop and
> stripes on the Vega Kammback he was driving - he did it himself. Made
> the hood scoop out of a Bud Light 12-pack box and the stripes were
> duct tape!
>
> Ah, good times! Wish I had a picture. That Vega was possibly the
> best truck I ever bought. Drove it for a couple years while in
> college, then gave it to my dad who passed it to my brother. Little
> brother finally blew the rearend out of it doing "neutral slams" to
> "impress the girls".

From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu May  6 10:45:31 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 09:45:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Free Tools
References: <D0467E9575FC40438661AE4AB9C5D4BE@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <ACAF74D0A95140A0A20B64CB9B28880C@psych.washington.edu>

Soon to have a new home in Elko, NV.  Thanks to everyone that reponded.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu May  6 11:24:57 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 12:24:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
In-Reply-To: <894403.39305.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <894403.39305.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BE2FB69.1040203@justbrits.com>

<< Hay paint a Raders emblem on the hood. He could sell it for
a lot...... >>

Get a LOT more for Dodgers 'emblem', Vigil !!!!

LMAO !!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu May  6 15:44:30 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:44:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] test
Message-ID: <175324171.20100506144430@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  yeah yeah yeah... 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
  Atheism is a non-prophet organization. 

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Thu May  6 15:48:27 2010
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 16:48:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
Message-ID: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>

Point gap set,spark plugs set.Getting a spark from each distributor  
wire.Motor turns over well.Will not start.Will check timing next.Any  
suggestions? Motor has not run since rebuild(1275cc)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May  6 16:17:49 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 17:17:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <i2y43840a7e1005061517v723de450ibd4357db98b17146@mail.gmail.com>

fuel?


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Point gap set,spark plugs set.Getting a spark from each distributor
> wire.Motor turns over well.Will not start.Will check timing next.Any
> suggestions? Motor has not run since rebuild(1275cc)
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu May  6 16:20:08 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 17:20:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <y2se98d88091005061520me49fe225n2af3b2d642c3be85@mail.gmail.com>

A wee bit of ether in the carbs, to see if it will fire?

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Point gap set,spark plugs set.Getting a spark from each distributor
> wire.Motor turns over well.Will not start.Will check timing next.Any
> suggestions? Motor has not run since rebuild(1275cc)
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu May  6 16:28:05 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 15:28:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <819D2F62914B47709D59C63B330F8C33@spider>

Make sure that #1 fires when it's supposed to; close to TDC and both valves
are closed on the cylinder. Make sure wiring sequence is correct. Are valves
adjusted?  ...bill in corvallis
=============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:48 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start

Point gap set, spark plugs set. Getting a spark from each distributor  
wire. Motor turns over well. Will not start. Will check timing next. Any  
suggestions? Motor has not run since rebuild(1275cc)
_______________________________________________

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Thu May  6 16:41:40 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 17:41:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Flow Quesiton - Turbo Question
In-Reply-To: <r2qd6f30eca1005051458k880e7eafo3e8138b87920b91d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3d456.68ca8466.391342b3@aol.com>
	<r2qd6f30eca1005051458k880e7eafo3e8138b87920b91d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m2zd6f30eca1005061541zc70d09d0m20c152bc37b81a24@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, I must have started my Cinco de Mayo celebrations a bit early
yesterday.  I completely whiffed on the magic air to fuel ratio of 14:1.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Greg Gowins <eric.t.cartman at gmail.com>wrote:

> Understood.  But my recollection was that the reason it wouldn't run lean
> was that the turbo/supercharger changed the amount of pressure because it
> was forcing the extra air in, over the same volume of air at a normal level
> of pressure.  Kinda like how water boils at a lower temp at high altitudes
> because of the less dense air, more energy is released from the fuel due to
> higher pressure.
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:52 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>  With a carb the amount of fuel dumped in is determined by the jets or
>> needles so that even given carb at any given engine speed (air flow) can be
>> made to run rich. Same thing with fuel injection if it's not set correctly,
>> injectors too big etc.
>>
>> A lot of factors limit how much AIR can be drawn into the engine
>> (volumetric efficiency??) and given you can always add more fuel to the air
>> than it needs (air/fuel mixture is too rich) it is the overall breathing
>> efficiency of the engine that limits power.  The engine sucks in as much air
>> as it is capable of whether carb or injection.
>>
>> What a turbo or super charger does is FORCE FEED AIR INTO THE ENGINE.  The
>> engine doesn't suck air rather it has air pumped into it, sometimes at
>> pressure (tech difference between various types of supercharger and turbo
>> charging).
>>
>> More air = more fuel though it's still possible to get a super or turbo
>> charged engine to run too rich.  It's also possible to have to little fuel
>> with just a carb (or injection) and super or turbo charging.
>>
>> If the turbo or supercharger just put more air into the engine for any
>> given amount of fuel the engine would simply run lean and make no more power
>> than without a super or turbo charger.
>>
>> Weslake-Monza 1330
>>
>> In a message dated 05/05/2010 22:22:24 GMT Daylight Time,
>> eric.t.cartman at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> With a carb, the amount of fuel dumped in is determined by the speed of
>> the
>> air flow.  So as more CFM is fed in to the venturis, more gas is pulled in
>> to the cylinder. With a turbo or supercharger, it uses the same amount of
>> fuel as non-boost system, it just crams a lot more air in so that you get
>> more energy out of the fuel at combustion time.

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu May  6 16:50:06 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:50:06 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0A898C6DD2DE4E99A3A7DA5B86FBD683@user8634b3d69b>

Jess,

You've omitted fuel supply.
Both engine and dizzy timing.
Plugs sparking.
Plug lead order same as firing order
Choke setting.
Has old fuel gone off?
Plugs wet after turning over when it hasn't started?

When all else fails apply right foot rapidly to driver's side tyre to remind 
it who is boss!

Good Luck


Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jess Power"
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:48 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start


> Point gap set,spark plugs set.Getting a spark from each distributor 
> wire.Motor turns over well.Will not start.Will check timing next.Any 
> suggestions? Motor has not run since rebuild(1275cc)
> _______________________________________________

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Thu May  6 16:57:46 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 15:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
In-Reply-To: <4BE233F5.8050509@cox.net>
Message-ID: <505543.90792.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thank God  it's "Always kept in garage."  Will cut down on the gag reflex from
people on the street.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

From: David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Winner of the worst paint job on a Midget
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 11:13 PM

On 5/5/2010 10:39 AM, Edward Perez wrote:
> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/1723387742.html
>
> What were they thinking?
>   
They weren't. Is the trunk occupied by a 3 KW subwoofer?

I don't know what it is about this area. We're just a little south of Temecula
and the paint job on my son's car is pretty wretched too. Might have been done
with a box of spray cans.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose
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From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Thu May  6 17:00:44 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:00:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4DE6AE80485C4199A25AA863CE39E9B3@MAINCOMPUTER>

Dizzy 180 out??
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jess Power" <jessmd1 at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start


> Point gap set,spark plugs set.Getting a spark from each distributor
> wire.Motor turns over well.Will not start.Will check timing next.Any
> suggestions? Motor has not run since rebuild(1275cc)
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  6 17:17:35 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 18:17:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] test
In-Reply-To: <175324171.20100506144430@pacifier.com>
References: <175324171.20100506144430@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <308925B1DFC9433B9CC9D569EC0EEAAB@HomePC>

From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:44 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] test

Hello Spridgets,

  yeah yeah yeah... 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
====================

Eww, eww, eww, Bill, I remember that song.  Beatles, circa 64 or 65, right?

LAD

From montpaul at msn.com  Thu May  6 17:48:02 2010
From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 16:48:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W29E2C28468D1D76D6A9F54D5F50@phx.gbl>

Ground strap? Any backfire?

> From: jessmd1 at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 16:48:27 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
>
> Point gap set,spark plugs set.Getting a spark from each distributor
> wire.Motor turns over well.Will not start.Will check timing next.Any
> suggestions? Motor has not run since rebuild(1275cc)
> _______________________________________________
>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu May  6 18:38:14 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 17:38:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <i2y43840a7e1005061517v723de450ibd4357db98b17146@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C808AF06.26DA1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Motor has not run since rebuild
1. You forgot something.
2. You did something wrong.

From stevenm at optonline.net  Thu May  6 20:32:13 2010
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 22:32:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
Message-ID: <8CF52F261B1240E88559D8D9DE1D6D31@1705n3>

I took a walk up and down the aisles at the "Britfest" show last week and got some shots of various cool cars...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S75Quiu1kwI

Steve

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu May  6 21:05:05 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:05:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thread size of our lug nuts
Message-ID: <q2p205cef431005062005l9002eb69p62fab2f8f08dede@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I'm trying to locate the lug nut size for our wheels. I checked, The Leyland
Service Manual, Haynes Repair Manual, and my Clymer Manual (new purchase
from eBay). I also looked at the Victoria British & Moss catalogs. What I
need is the thread size including the diameter of the threaded bolt to
purchase lug nuts from this company.
http://www.customwheelaccessories.com/ETLUGNUTS.html

Note: If you click the link for thread app size it only lists the MG and I
don't know if that is B or all which says 1/2"
http://www.customwheelaccessories.com/THREAD_APP_GUIDE.html

Lin

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Thu May  6 21:47:46 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 22:47:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
In-Reply-To: <8CF52F261B1240E88559D8D9DE1D6D31@1705n3>
References: <8CF52F261B1240E88559D8D9DE1D6D31@1705n3>
Message-ID: <4BE38D62.4050504@tx.rr.com>

I remembered that I had a few photos from an informal car show I visited 
a month ago:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2483b.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2484b.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2495b.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2583b.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2610b.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2582b.jpg

BTW, I was on this list a few years ago, now I'm back for a little while.


> I took a walk up and down the aisles at the "Britfest" show last week and got some shots of various cool cars...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S75Quiu1kwI

From herby at herbytoys.com  Thu May  6 22:12:21 2010
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:12:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thread size of our lug nuts
In-Reply-To: <q2p205cef431005062005l9002eb69p62fab2f8f08dede@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6D8F1523F34A432ABEF297452C2015AA@HERBYZ>

Lin,
It's 3/8-24.
Try here http://www.vtoperformance.com/acatalog/Mag_Lug_Nuts.html


Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:05 PM
To: Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Thread size of our lug nuts

From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri May  7 04:23:18 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 10:23:18 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] "so I can contact you on"
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds787BCC5BCFC82CEEA6E08D4F60@phx.gbl>

....yeh, rriiight!

.....and tonight at 8PM, Mr. Edward will be selling the Brooklyn Bridge at low, low prices. Be there or be square!

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Mr.Victor Edward
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 1:30 PM
Subject: I am a Manager/financial consultant, A client of mine died in 2005 on boat mishap and he has a lodgment fund to claims US$12.7M. And no other person knows about this account. If you are interested forward to me your names, cell, Phone/fax, profession, age and country so I can contact you on. Thank You, Mr.Victor Edward


KINDLY CONTACT ME FOR FURTHER INFORMATION AND CLARIFICATION

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri May  7 07:16:48 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:16:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
In-Reply-To: <8CF52F261B1240E88559D8D9DE1D6D31@1705n3>
Message-ID: <1301345313.20544261273238208237.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

What I love most of your video is that you got that annoying whench campaigning for her car on video( 7min 28 sec in). 
Ryan 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Michelsen" <stevenm at optonline.net> 
To: EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com, "Midget Group at team.net" <spridgets at Autox.Team.Net>, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:32:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video 

I took a walk up and down the aisles at the "Britfest" show last week and got some shots of various cool cars... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S75Quiu1kwI 

Steve 
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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri May  7 08:47:01 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:47:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
In-Reply-To: <1301345313.20544261273238208237.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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I never could understand why some people take these shows so 
seriously........entrant's choice balloting typically means that at least 
75% of the people voting for a car in each class have no clue as to what 
they are looking at.  Yet some people get all bent out of shape if their car 
doesn't "win".   Reminds me of a good (true) story:
Several years ago, at a fairly large show, I was involved in counting 
ballots to determine class winners.  In one class, there was one outstanding 
car and a couple of, well, not very outstanding cars.  While compiling the 
list of winners, after the votes were tallied, one of our club members asked 
who had gotten the most votes for this class.  After being told it was the 
"outstanding" car, my friend said "We can't award first place to that guy." 
"Why not?" I asked.  Answer: "Because he's an asshole."  Several other club 
members, who also knew the owner of the outstanding car echoed the same 
opinion.
On that day, a new club tradition was started: We don't knowingly award 
first prize, in any of our car show classes, to assholes.
Bud Osbourne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: "Steven Michelsen" <stevenm at optonline.net>
Cc: "Midget Group at team.net" <spridgets at Autox.Team.Net>; 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; <EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Britfest video


> What I love most of your video is that you got that annoying whench 
> campaigning for her car on video( 7min 28 sec in).
> Ryan
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Michelsen" <stevenm at optonline.net>
> To: EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com, "Midget Group at team.net" 
> <spridgets at Autox.Team.Net>, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:32:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
>
> I took a walk up and down the aisles at the "Britfest" show last week and 
> got some shots of various cool cars...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S75Quiu1kwI
>
> Steve

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri May  7 08:58:50 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:58:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
In-Reply-To: <C8DD0311CD8A414CB9182FC21D3AD69E@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <752874807.20605251273244330227.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

It was her attitude of " i want to win I want to win I want to win" that she repeatedly said while jumping up and down, combined with her "don't vote for him vote for me because I really want to win" speech and attitude that bothered me. I took 3rd and was thrilled at that. But that she beat all of the other cars in that field for peoples choice is what astounds me. 
ryan 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com> 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>, "Steven Michelsen" <stevenm at optonline.net> 
Cc: "Midget Group at team.net" <spridgets at Autox.Team.Net>, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 7, 2010 10:47:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Britfest video 

I never could understand why some people take these shows so 
seriously........entrant's choice balloting typically means that at least 
75% of the people voting for a car in each class have no clue as to what 
they are looking at. Yet some people get all bent out of shape if their car 
doesn't "win". Reminds me of a good (true) story: 
Several years ago, at a fairly large show, I was involved in counting 
ballots to determine class winners. In one class, there was one outstanding 
car and a couple of, well, not very outstanding cars. While compiling the 
list of winners, after the votes were tallied, one of our club members asked 
who had gotten the most votes for this class. After being told it was the 
"outstanding" car, my friend said "We can't award first place to that guy." 
"Why not?" I asked. Answer: "Because he's an asshole." Several other club 
members, who also knew the owner of the outstanding car echoed the same 
opinion. 
On that day, a new club tradition was started: We don't knowingly award 
first prize, in any of our car show classes, to assholes. 
Bud Osbourne 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> 
To: "Steven Michelsen" <stevenm at optonline.net> 
Cc: "Midget Group at team.net" <spridgets at Autox.Team.Net>; 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; <EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Britfest video 


> What I love most of your video is that you got that annoying whench 
> campaigning for her car on video( 7min 28 sec in). 
> Ryan 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Michelsen" <stevenm at optonline.net> 
> To: EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com, "Midget Group at team.net" 
> <spridgets at Autox.Team.Net>, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:32:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video 
> 
> I took a walk up and down the aisles at the "Britfest" show last week and 
> got some shots of various cool cars... 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S75Quiu1kwI 
> 
> Steve 

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri May  7 09:15:30 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:15:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
In-Reply-To: <752874807.20605251273244330227.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <752874807.20605251273244330227.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <207BFF6597834944A8BD005D97B550B3@OwnerPC>

Yeah, I've observed that in a lot of "people's choice" car shows, over the
years.  Some of these people (like the woman in the video, I suspect) have no
clue that they are making complete fools of themselves.  It's pretty amusing,
sometimes, I have to admit.
Speaking of car shows: have you noticed that, when parking their cars on the
show field, the ability of the driver to maneuver his/her car into position on
the field is inversely proportional to the market value of the car?
Bud Osbourne
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
  To: Bud Osbourne
  Cc: Midget Group at team.net ; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com ;
EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com ; Steven Michelsen
  Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Britfest video


  It was her attitude of " i want to win I want to win I want to win" that she
repeatedly said while jumping up and down, combined with her "don't vote for
him vote for me because I really want to win" speech and attitude that
bothered me. I took 3rd and was thrilled at that.  But that she beat all of
the other cars in that field for peoples choice is what astounds me.
  ryan

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri May  7 09:20:05 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 08:20:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing.
Message-ID: <1418193470.20100507082005@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

        You all know I'm not much of a mechanic, or rather I'm in the
        process of learning but....

        It always stuns me how much one can trouble shoot if they just
        open the hood while the engine is running. I found the source
        of my water leak or rather the sources. One hose clamp was
        stripped, right above the block drain plug, which caused me to
        believe that the drain plug was the problem (until I watched
        with the engine running.. D'oh) and the major source was that
        the heater control valve needed to be tightened a little more
        onto the block. ...

        Wish all the problems were this easy to spot and fix...

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  The seminar on Time Travel will be held two weeks ago. 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May  7 10:01:16 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 11:01:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing.
In-Reply-To: <1418193470.20100507082005@pacifier.com>
References: <1418193470.20100507082005@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <201005070901835.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 10:20 AM 5/7/2010, Bill L wrote:
>Hello Spridgets,
>         It always stuns me how much one can trouble shoot if they just
>         open the hood while the engine is running.
==========
You want to be really stunned.......  move that sparkplug wire that 
looks loose while temporarily hold the hood open...




don't ask.


Peter C

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri May  7 10:13:20 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 09:13:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
In-Reply-To: <207BFF6597834944A8BD005D97B550B3@OwnerPC>
References: <752874807.20605251273244330227.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<207BFF6597834944A8BD005D97B550B3@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1185701443.20100507091320@pacifier.com>

Hello,

      The three events in the Pacific Northwest are all People's
      Choice style. I used to take my time and try to find the best in
      each class (by the way the Vancouver BC only has ballots for
      five classes for any one participant, so that you don't have to
      try to judge all the classes on the field). In most classes the
      cars are so close that I chose based on the color of the paint
      (always rejecting automatically EVERY car that had put any kind
      of dressing on the tires). Any more I feel --Who am I to judge
      who has the best and just throw my ballots in the trash---.
      (After the show that is. I've had some people all but beg me for
      my unused ballot so they can vote for themselves--SHAMELESSLY!)

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Reasoning, Circular: See Circular Reasoning 

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri May  7 10:16:20 2010
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 12:16:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
In-Reply-To: <207BFF6597834944A8BD005D97B550B3@OwnerPC>
References: <752874807.20605251273244330227.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<207BFF6597834944A8BD005D97B550B3@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <x2o8c1781041005070916p2ce40b3ds4a67663b974fadf4@mail.gmail.com>

I don't do many popular choice shows anymore, but when I do I simply say
hello to everyone that looks at my car.  I then answer questions if they
have any.  I knew it was time to quit doing the shows when I got tired of
answering the same questions and made an "information poster".

I encourage our club members not to vote for fellow member cars (at our car
show) and instead give consideration to our guests.


On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I've observed that in a lot of "people's choice" car shows, over the
> years.  Some of these people (like the woman in the video, I suspect) have
> no
> clue that they are making complete fools of themselves.  It's pretty
> amusing,
> sometimes, I have to admit.
> Speaking of car shows: have you noticed that, when parking their cars on
> the
> show field, the ability of the driver to maneuver his/her car into position
> on
> the field is inversely proportional to the market value of the car?
> Bud Osbourne
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
>   To: Bud Osbourne
>  Cc: Midget Group at team.net ; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com ;
> EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com ; Steven Michelsen
>  Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:58 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Britfest video
>
>
>   It was her attitude of " i want to win I want to win I want to win" that
> she
> repeatedly said while jumping up and down, combined with her "don't vote
> for
> him vote for me because I really want to win" speech and attitude that
> bothered me. I took 3rd and was thrilled at that.  But that she beat all of
> the other cars in that field for peoples choice is what astounds me.
>  ryan
> _______________________________________________
>
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri May  7 11:06:34 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:06:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing.
Message-ID: <727301caee07$a5edd750$056a010a@mail2world.com>

Something tells me you danced an involuntary little jig! :)


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Peter Caldwell [peter at nosimport.com]
Sent: 5/7/2010 12:01:16 PM
To: pythias at pacifier.com;spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Amazing. 

At 10:20 AM 5/7/2010, Bill L wrote: 
>Hello Spridgets, 
> It always stuns me how much one can trouble shoot if they just 
> open the hood while the engine is running. 
========== 
You want to be really stunned....... move that sparkplug wire that 
looks loose while temporarily hold the hood open... 




don't ask. 


Peter C 
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. 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May  7 11:14:23 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 12:14:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing.
In-Reply-To: <727301caee07$a5edd750$056a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <727301caee07$a5edd750$056a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <201005071014872.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

It was the tech inspector's head at my first autocross that bore the brunt.....

damnIwasn'tgoingtotellanybodythis



At 12:06 PM 5/7/2010, Chris King wrote:
>Something tells me you danced an involuntary little jig! :)
>
>
>Chris King
>http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
>
>  <-----Original Message----->
>     From: Peter Caldwell [peter at nosimport.com]
>Sent: 5/7/2010 12:01:16 PM
>To: pythias at pacifier.com;spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Amazing.
>
>At 10:20 AM 5/7/2010, Bill L wrote:
> >Hello Spridgets,
> > It always stuns me how much one can trouble shoot if they just
> > open the hood while the engine is running.
>==========
>You want to be really stunned....... move that sparkplug wire that
>looks loose while temporarily hold the hood open...
>
>
>
>
>don't ask.
>
>
>Peter C
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri May  7 11:25:28 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:25:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing.
In-Reply-To: <201005070901835.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <1418193470.20100507082005@pacifier.com>
	<201005070901835.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <y2m5f00d9911005071025l52bf31caub7a428f2ab870d53@mail.gmail.com>

> You want to be really stunned.......  move that sparkplug wire that looks
> loose while temporarily hold the hood open...
>
>
>
>
> don't ask.
>
>
> Peter C


That could possibly cause one to be shocked, stunned, and taken aback,
especially if one has a super duper high output coil.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri May  7 11:48:36 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 12:48:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing.
In-Reply-To: <201005070901835.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <1418193470.20100507082005@pacifier.com>
	<201005070901835.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <w2w43840a7e1005071048w6a0f19e9o23befa92faf2baa4@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

Is that how they put those dimples in the bonnet for oversized carbs?  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 10:20 AM 5/7/2010, Bill L wrote:
>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>        It always stuns me how much one can trouble shoot if they just
>>        open the hood while the engine is running.
>>
> ==========
> You want to be really stunned.......  move that sparkplug wire that looks
> loose while temporarily hold the hood open...
>
>
>
>
> don't ask.
>
>
> Peter C
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May  7 12:06:21 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 13:06:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <y2se98d88091005061520me49fe225n2af3b2d642c3be85@mail.gmail.com>
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
	<y2se98d88091005061520me49fe225n2af3b2d642c3be85@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BE4569D.30900@justbrits.com>

<< A wee bit of ether in the carbs, to see if it will fire? >>

Since nobody else has commented, I will -:) Brad.

Absolutely a NO-NO ["starting fluid", DITTO]. 
TOO flammable/explosive !! 
I saw a motor actually blow-up around 25 - 30 years ago which included 
TWO [2] holes in the side of the block [rods # 1 & #3] and a rod 
'saddle' thru the pan.

"Spray" some GAS = OK.

FWIW, FYI, NFI, YMMV, etc., yada, etc.!!

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri May  7 12:07:32 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:07:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Walk Through Brit Show
Message-ID: <x2o37dc82d41005071107l236f5882v5130b48e65508ef9@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks!  Great job with the video camera.

Kirk
59 1275

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri May  7 12:22:34 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:22:34 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Britfest video
Message-ID: <21fcf.62a6fe92.3915b46a@aol.com>

and I saw the mini with the reg MGC on it - change of loyalties.   Pleased 
to see you walked past the Bini.
 
I like the cosmic alloy wheels on the Lotus Europa - you can get the same  
wheel (if you can find them) for a Spridget.
 
I saw Frank's car.
 
Didn't see the woman jumping up and down shouting I want to win.   I'd 
certainly ignore that kind of thing unless they aren;t  wearing  a bra....
 
In a message dated 07/05/2010 17:12:14 GMT Daylight Time,  
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net writes:

It was  her attitude of " i want to win I want to win I want to win" that 
she  repeatedly said while jumping up and down, combined with her "don't vote 
for  him vote for me because I really want to win" speech and attitude that 
 bothered me. I took 3rd and was thrilled at that. But that she beat all of 
 the other cars in that field for peoples choice is what astounds me.  
ryan 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri May  7 13:12:14 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 12:12:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <4BE4569D.30900@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <C809B41E.26E0C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Absolutely a NO-NO ["starting fluid", DITTO].
> TOO flammable/explosive !!
I thought that's what it was for. I haven't blown up yet.
How about spraying WD40 and just sniffing the starter fluid?

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Fri May  7 14:38:56 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 20:38:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <C809B41E.26E0C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <20100507203856.PX9VB.59906.root@cdptpa-web10-z02>

The idea is that some people spray way too much starter fluid.
 
> > Absolutely a NO-NO ["starting fluid", DITTO].
> > TOO flammable/explosive !!

> I thought that's what it was for. I haven't blown up yet.
> How about spraying WD40 and just sniffing the starter fluid?

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Fri May  7 15:28:16 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:28:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
Message-ID: <390368.81307.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If a ONE SECOND squirt in each carb doesn't make the cylinders fire at least once each, it's not a fuel problem.

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Fri May  7 17:59:29 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 18:59:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What year do you think this Sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <6D8F1523F34A432ABEF297452C2015AA@HERBYZ>
References: <q2p205cef431005062005l9002eb69p62fab2f8f08dede@mail.gmail.com>
	<6D8F1523F34A432ABEF297452C2015AA@HERBYZ>
Message-ID: <000001caee41$553322e0$ff9968a0$@brokaw@cox.net>

http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1694446446.html

I think it is at least a 1964 and if so then it should have a 1098 not the
948 in the listing.

It has wind up windows, side vent, 6 spoke steering wheel, the Mark III
dash...

Paul

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Fri May  7 18:16:22 2010
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:16:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] timing
Message-ID: <50086BEA-EDE3-4D6B-9FEF-F9E48E06675E@comcast.net>

Ok the timing on this 1275cc motor was not done after engine  
rebuild.Turned the crank to where the mark on the pulley is about 4  
degrees BTDC.I am using the compression stroke on was is labeled as #1  
cylinder.This is the cylinder closest to the front of the car.Now when  
inserting the distributor it faces what is marked as #4 spark plug on  
the distibutor cap.The dog drive will not seat 180 degrees from here  
which would be #1 wire.Is the Number 1 cylinder the one closest to the  
front of the car?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri May  7 19:50:57 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 21:50:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye won't start
In-Reply-To: <4BE4569D.30900@justbrits.com>
References: <69BF3FBE-1B81-4F6E-98CD-FC3F8E85C056@comcast.net>
	<y2se98d88091005061520me49fe225n2af3b2d642c3be85@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BE4569D.30900@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4BE4C381.4050700@comcast.net>

On 5/7/2010 2:06 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> << A wee bit of ether in the carbs, to see if it will fire? >>
>
> Since nobody else has commented, I will -:) Brad.
>
> Absolutely a NO-NO ["starting fluid", DITTO]. TOO flammable/explosive !!
> I saw a motor actually blow-up around 25 - 30 years ago which included
> TWO [2] holes in the side of the block [rods # 1 & #3] and a rod
> 'saddle' thru the pan.

Must have been a Chevy.
I use ether every now and then on problem starts.
It works.
And lately my leaf blower is addicted to the stuff, it needs it each start.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri May  7 19:54:44 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 21:54:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What year do you think this Sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <000001caee41$553322e0$ff9968a0$@brokaw@cox.net>
References: <q2p205cef431005062005l9002eb69p62fab2f8f08dede@mail.gmail.com>
	<6D8F1523F34A432ABEF297452C2015AA@HERBYZ>
	<000001caee41$553322e0$ff9968a0$@brokaw@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4BE4C464.4020205@comcast.net>

On 5/7/2010 7:59 PM, Paul Herder wrote:
> http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1694446446.html
>
> I think it is at least a 1964 and if so then it should have a 1098 not the
> 948 in the listing.

64, 65, or 66.
MkIII for sure.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri May  7 19:59:44 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 21:59:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] timing
In-Reply-To: <50086BEA-EDE3-4D6B-9FEF-F9E48E06675E@comcast.net>
References: <50086BEA-EDE3-4D6B-9FEF-F9E48E06675E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BE4C590.9050803@comcast.net>

On 5/7/2010 8:16 PM, Jess Power wrote:
> Ok the timing on this 1275cc motor was not done after engine
> rebuild.Turned the crank to where the mark on the pulley is about 4
> degrees BTDC.I am using the compression stroke on was is labeled as #1
> cylinder.This is the cylinder closest to the front of the car.Now when
> inserting the distributor it faces what is marked as #4 spark plug on
> the distibutor cap.The dog drive will not seat 180 degrees from here
> which would be #1 wire.Is the Number 1 cylinder the one closest to the
> front of the car?
> _______________________________________________

Congratulations, the drive gear is 180 out.
I do it every single time!

Remove the dizzy clamp, unscrew the collar, insert a long 5/16 x 24 bolt 
into the drive gear, twist and pull it out.
If you can make a mark with a sharpie or something on the gear, so you 
can tell when you have it 180 around.
Yeah, yeah, the book says keep the smaller slot up or what ever but 
those 2 slots are .0000001 different and can not be seen with the naked 
eye or even a magnifying glass.
Put a mark on the top, screw in a bolt, pop it out, put the mark on the 
bottom.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May  7 21:27:34 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 22:27:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] timing
In-Reply-To: <4BE4C590.9050803@comcast.net>
References: <50086BEA-EDE3-4D6B-9FEF-F9E48E06675E@comcast.net>
	<4BE4C590.9050803@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BE4DA26.10408@justbrits.com>

<<insert a long 5/16 x 24 bolt into the drive gear, twist and pull it 
out. >>

MANDATORY 'read' FIRST, Jess !!!!

http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/tool1.htm

'Cause if you DON'T follow above and drop the drive gear
IN THE PAN, you WILL be "administering some CHOICE
verbage" to yourself and everybody in hearing range !!  LOL

[right, Frank <G>?]

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri May  7 23:10:31 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:10:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] What year do you think this Sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <4BE4C464.4020205@comcast.net>
References: <q2p205cef431005062005l9002eb69p62fab2f8f08dede@mail.gmail.com>
	<6D8F1523F34A432ABEF297452C2015AA@HERBYZ>
	<4BE4C464.4020205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <t2jb777e2be1005072210md11bd1al280910c63a9ecff8@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
On 5/7/2010 7:59 PM, Paul Herder wrote:

http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1694446446.html

I think it is at least a 1964 and if so then it should have a 1098 not
the 948 in the listing.

64, 65, or 66.
MkIII for sure.

Frank Clarici

It might even be an early 67... The fold down top model with the 1275
was a late 67 car! It definately should have a 1098 with a ribcase.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri May  7 23:16:15 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:16:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Inner bearing race tolerance in hub
Message-ID: <v2nb777e2be1005072216i2933e9a4q3180b91f3c4e6486@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know what the specs are for a disk brake hub inner bearing
tolerance for the race to the hub. Is it supposed to be a tap in or
press fit? Is the hub shot if the race does not stay in place without
some convincing? I can't find any info other than how to remove the
inner race from the stub axle if it comes out of the hub during
disassembly... My manuals don't say anything about how tight the race
needs to be in place in the hub.

TIA,
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May  8 00:11:23 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 01:11:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What year do you think this Sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <-7885317524052560233@unknownmsgid>
References: <q2p205cef431005062005l9002eb69p62fab2f8f08dede@mail.gmail.com>
	<6D8F1523F34A432ABEF297452C2015AA@HERBYZ>
	<-7885317524052560233@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <x2s43840a7e1005072311u5bcc9db6zf17dee3c1881a054@mail.gmail.com>

Paul...

I think I saw this car in the parking lot of the Eastgate Mall in Wichita
last year!  If it is the same car, he's asking too much.  There are some
things on it that aren't original (mirrors, among others) and the paint
wasn't the best either. I left a note on the car but the owner never
replied.  My understanding is that it should have the 1098 and rib case as
someone mentioned and is likely a 66 like the one here in Dodge City that is
still looking for a home. The interior was nice then and still looks good
but you can buy all that from Victoria British and it's easy to install. If
you look at it, watch for rust. When I saw it it looked like there were some
bubbles in the usual spot at the bottom of the A posts.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Paul Herder <george.brokaw at cox.net> wrote:

> http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1694446446.html
>
> I think it is at least a 1964 and if so then it should have a 1098 not the
> 948 in the listing.
>
> It has wind up windows, side vent, 6 spoke steering wheel, the Mark III
> dash...
>
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat May  8 07:31:29 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 08:31:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Inner bearing race tolerance in hub
In-Reply-To: <v2nb777e2be1005072216i2933e9a4q3180b91f3c4e6486@mail.gmail .com>
References: <v2nb777e2be1005072216i2933e9a4q3180b91f3c4e6486@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201005080631911.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Kent,
         It should/must be a tap in. BUT... good hubs are hard to 
find, as many have the same problem. You can recover the fit by using 
some judicious dimpling in the race area, and some Locktite green... 
605, I believe.
          Snuggle up to a local bearing-machine-farm implement repair 
place, and they can show you how. Unfortunately, this is the only 
course for now. Some of the problem is exacerbated (can I say that 
here?) by the constant use of the current lot of mis-made inner bearings
         Look around on some of the other fora for that discussion. 
Has to do with incorrect inner race radius.

         Peter C
=====
At 12:16 AM 5/8/2010, you wrote:
>Does anyone know what the specs are for a disk brake hub inner bearing
>tolerance for the race to the hub. Is it supposed to be a tap in or
>press fit? Is the hub shot if the race does not stay in place without
>some convincing? I can't find any info other than how to remove the
>inner race from the stub axle if it comes out of the hub during
>disassembly... My manuals don't say anything about how tight the race
>needs to be in place in the hub.
>
>TIA,
>--
>Kent
>1960 Bugeye
>1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
>1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat May  8 09:04:18 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 11:04:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Paint
Message-ID: <4C6CD248827D4A6F918B9141BEE37FF1@Home>

The black paint on my Midget wheels is holding up fine, but the silver paint started rusting through within less than a year.  It might be that the black was brushed on and the silver was sprayed on, perhaps not as thickly.  Anyone have especially good or bad results with a particular brand/type of silver paint? 

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May  8 10:07:10 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Public health message from Zoom
Message-ID: <160685.61088.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Seriously- BZ kept this quiet, but this is great news and an important
message:
====================================================

X GUITARIST b
BILLY ZOOM - SUCCESSFULLY TREATED FOR PROSTATE CANCER

NOW CANCER FREE b BUT
ENCOURAGES MEN TO GET TESTED EARLY


(Los Angeles, CA b May 10, 2010)
Legendary guitarist, punk legend, and
all-around nice guy, Billy Zoom,
recently revealed that he has been successfully treated for prostate cancer.
In March 2010, the 62-year-old
musician/producer/electronics wiz underwent a
radical prostatectomy. Thankfully, the disease was first diagnosed in its very
early stages, and his post-surgery pathology reports have given Billy an "all
clear".

"I will need regular follow-up checks over the years, but we have
arrived at the best possible outcome," Zoom said. "It won't affect my
commitments to X, and the Billy Zoom Custom Shop is back in full production of
Little Kahunas and other custom electronics products. There's still quite a
back-log of orders, but I'm catching up."

Billy Zoom was treated by Dr. David
Agus and Dr. Inderbir Gill at the USC
Westside Prostate Cancer Center in L.A.
Ironically, Billy has been a regular guest at the annual Johnny Ramone
Benefit, that raises funds and awareness for that very USC Center lead by Dr.
David Agus.

Since his diagnosis, Zoom has encouraged other men to get annual
prostate exams. One out of six American men will also be in this same
situation sometime in their lives. All men over age 50 should have annual
blood tests of their PSA levels.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat May  8 10:18:48 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 09:18:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paint
In-Reply-To: <4C6CD248827D4A6F918B9141BEE37FF1@Home>
Message-ID: <C80ADCF8.26E67%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

All paint is low voc crap now. Get them powder coated and vote against all
incumbents.

From jjj at acsnet.com  Sat May  8 11:54:22 2010
From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 12:54:22 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets] What year do you think this sprite is
Message-ID: <2882.66.172.236.83.1273341262.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>

Jim and others: I believe this is a car that was listed on e-bay 2 or 3
yrs ago. Fellow also had a Berkeley that I saw sitting in the background
at the time. I bought the Berkeley and was interested in the Sprite but it
was overpriced and as Jim said, showing rust bubbles. Fellow was in very
bad health and was trying to get his affairs in order so I imagine this
guy is the one that bought the car. He obviously is trying to turn a
profit!!!

From jjj at acsnet.com  Sat May  8 12:15:37 2010
From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 13:15:37 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re;
	[spridgets] What year do you tink this sprite is?
Message-ID: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>

I get the digest so don't think I can post the standard reply. Forgot to
post my vote for year! If seats are original it probably is a pre 66 as
the 66 seats were different than the 62 thru 65 seats. Should have 10CC
1098.
BTW my name is Kurt!
Met some of you at LoTO, hope to meet more at Midget 50th.

From proefrock at comcast.net  Sat May  8 12:43:26 2010
From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 13:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC sighting
Message-ID: <1D0F788E-219F-4D63-AEB5-17D7E5D466C9@comcast.net>

Sat. 5/8. About noon. A very nice red rwa Midget with black  
Panasports, luggage rack, and fancy-lookin' new muffler in the  
parking lot of the Hudson, WI FleetFarm. Anyone we know?

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat May  8 12:56:10 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 13:56:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nice out....
Message-ID: <201005081156435.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

The sleet, changing to sun, then to hail is interesting today in SC Wisco.....

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat May  8 13:43:11 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 14:43:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nice out....
In-Reply-To: <201005081156435.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201005081156435.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <154034814133145553@unknownmsgid>

I guess I will stop griping about how chilly it is in Palatine...
David L

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat May  8 13:52:24 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:52:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal box modifications - just pedals
Message-ID: <576c5.712583d0.39171af8@aol.com>

Hi List, 
After a lot of though I decided against modifying the pedal box  (moving 
the pivot) and went with modifying the pedals, actually just the clutch  
pedal, instead. 
I now have the seat 1.75" further back which is absolutely as far  back as 
it goes (it's a thin racing seat).  So I consequently have 1.75" more arm 
reach but not yet  straight arms (with a steering column already shortened by 
1.0" and a flat  steering wheel). 
What I did in the end was increase the length of the clutch pedal  
(directly under the pad) though ideally it needs to be a bit longer  still.  For the 
brake pedal I simply swapped  the standard 1969 pedal for a 1500 Midget 
brake pedal which I already knew sat a  lot higher. 
For the throttle pedal I swapped back to my less shortened 15   Midget 
pedal that I had in a few years ago. 
I'm sure we'd all like an extra 1.75"(!) and certainly the car does feel  a 
lot more comfortable and I even notice the difference when getting in and  
out.
 
So, job done apart from eventually lengthening another 69 clutch  pedal.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330s

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat May  8 14:30:08 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 14:30:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re;
 [spridgets] What year do you tink  this  sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
References: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
Message-ID: <r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM,  <jjj at acsnet.com> wrote:
If seats are original it probably is a pre 66 as the 66 seats were
different than the 62 thru 65 seats.

Beg to differ Kurt... The very late 64s (Mk III) on up to the late 67s
(MK IV fold down top model) had the same seats. The priors (Mk II)
were the wrap around style and the 68 and up had headrests.


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat May  8 15:31:16 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 14:31:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re;
 [spridgets] What year do you tink   this sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>,
	<r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W14755A635556278CD692BACAF70@phx.gbl>

Actually- I just bought an early '65 (with roll-up windows) that had the
Bugeye style seats (and bolt holes in the appropriate locations). I guess that
they just used the wrap-around ones until they ran out and then switched to
the normal '65 ones.BillM

> Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 14:30:08 -0600
> From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re; [spridgets] What year do you tink  this
sprite is?
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM,  <jjj at acsnet.com> wrote:
> If seats are original it probably is a pre 66 as the 66 seats were
> different than the 62 thru 65 seats.
>
> Beg to differ Kurt... The very late 64s (Mk III) on up to the late 67s
> (MK IV fold down top model) had the same seats. The priors (Mk II)
> were the wrap around style and the 68 and up had headrests.
>
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
> 1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May  8 15:39:27 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 16:39:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re;
 [spridgets] What year do you tink  this  sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
	<r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p2m43840a7e1005081439xe540a3f9i4d08ee8a65909ef1@mail.gmail.com>

Kent....

Early 68s (mine per the VIN) do not have headrests.   There were no MKIII
Midgets in 1964.   Could you be thinking Sprite instead of Midget?  I don't
think the headrests came until 1969 or 1970.

Per Clausager's book....
First MKII    G-AN3/25788   March 1964
First MKIII    G-AN4/52390   October 1966

First 12CC-DA-H 1275cc engine went into G-AN4 Midgets in late 1966. Only 15
LHD Export versions of the 1966 G-AN4 1275cc cars were built in late 1966.

First 10CG-DA-H 1098cc engine went into G-AN2 MKI Midgets in late 1962.
Early 1962 MKI Midgets were G-AN1 MKI Midgets with the 9CG-DA-H 948cc
engine.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM,  <jjj at acsnet.com> wrote:
> If seats are original it probably is a pre 66 as the 66 seats were
> different than the 62 thru 65 seats.
>
> Beg to differ Kurt... The very late 64s (Mk III) on up to the late 67s
> (MK IV fold down top model) had the same seats. The priors (Mk II)
> were the wrap around style and the 68 and up had headrests.
>
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
> 1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self
> _______________________________________________
>
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Cheers!!
Jim
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sat May  8 16:24:51 2010
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 18:24:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
Message-ID: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>

This is probably common knowledge for the group, but the dangers of mixing
brake cleaner and welding recently came to my attention.  I have used brake
cleaner for nearly everything, even removing oil stains from a shirt on my
way to dinner.  Well, late one night after practicing welding all afternoon,
I was watching Gearz on Speed, and heard that the combination can KILL you.
It's called Phosgene gas, and it was used in WWI. A drop of cleaner is
enough to cause permanent damage or death.  I have been reading books,
websites, and watching videos, and this was news to me.  Read your labels,
be careful. 

 

Safety Fast!

Drew

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sat May  8 16:45:46 2010
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 18:45:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fate of the Midget
Message-ID: <5F87FC215C7949C8BEEE8244478008A8@AndrewHP>

So after a really rough year, I am finally starting in to the '76.  I have
accumulated parts: floors, sills, pillar skins.  I planned to patch the rear
1/4s with fabricated metal.  Somehow I missed that the rear bulkhead is also
rusted through at the base corners, and the parcel shelf brace is also
perforated at the bottom.  Additionally, the jack cross member is also
perforated.  

 

So is this normal?  I have no real welding/bodywork experience. I am
debating four options:

1)       Order the additional $700 or so in parts. Should be strong if not
pretty.

2)       Use what I have and fabricate metal extensions to weld to.  I
figure the car should hold together for another 5 years or so this way.

3)       Return parts, buy a new shell and Frankenstein the car.

4)       Use the mechanical parts, which are mostly good, as a donor for a
Locost 7.

 

What do y'all think?

 

Drew

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May  8 17:01:31 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 16:01:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's all good.
Message-ID: <69211413.20100508160131@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

        The weather in the Pacific Northwest finally took it's turn
        for the better today, so I just had to get the red thing out.
        The water leak is gone, the hood latch is patched (not fixed,
        need parts, next week!) the new air filters work perfectly,
        Gosh, it's just like a real car. Can hardly wait for the
        N.O.S.H.I.T. next weekend and the Vancouver ABFM the week
        after that. It's all good. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat May  8 17:10:49 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 16:10:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>

My Great Uncle Ivor was gassed in the trenches in WW1.. cost him his larynx and windpipe, ate 
throught a tube, couldn't talk.

Smoking while using Brake cleaner or most dry-cleaning fluids such as Trichlorethelyne also 
results in the generation of Phosegene.

It wil also eat your alveoli !

Don't ask!!

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 8 May 2010 at 18:24, Andrew Payne wrote:

> It's called Phosgene gas, and it was used in WWI.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May  8 17:17:17 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 16:17:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <7DC3AED58219411E87DC853A9680FB45@spider>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene
Bad stuff; I thought it was generated from welding on galvanized steel.
I don't weld. ...bill in corvallis
================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Payne
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:25 PM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you

This is probably common knowledge for the group, but the dangers of mixing
brake cleaner and welding recently came to my attention.  I have used brake
cleaner for nearly everything, even removing oil stains from a shirt on my
way to dinner.  Well, late one night after practicing welding all afternoon,
I was watching Gearz on Speed, and heard that the combination can KILL you.
It's called Phosgene gas, and it was used in WWI. A drop of cleaner is
enough to cause permanent damage or death.  I have been reading books,
websites, and watching videos, and this was news to me.  Read your labels,
be careful. 
Safety Fast!
Drew
_______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  8 18:21:14 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:21:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
	<4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AA049EE11B774FBCAAF96FD9F0219F46@HomePC>

My alveoli and I are so thankful to know that.  BTW, WTF are/is alveoli?  I 
once knew a girl that would eat... uh, never mind.

ED


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave G." <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:10 PM
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you

My Great Uncle Ivor was gassed in the trenches in WW1.. cost him his larynx 
and windpipe, ate
throught a tube, couldn't talk.

Smoking while using Brake cleaner or most dry-cleaning fluids such as 
Trichlorethelyne also
results in the generation of Phosegene.

It wil also eat your alveoli !

Don't ask!!

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May  8 19:11:25 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 18:11:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <AA049EE11B774FBCAAF96FD9F0219F46@HomePC>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP><4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<AA049EE11B774FBCAAF96FD9F0219F46@HomePC>
Message-ID: <FB978BD2A07049A0B1133CF9F11581B5@spider>

>From http://wiki.answers.com/Q/The_function_of_the_alveoli
"Alveoli are the tiny pockets in your lungs that store air for brief periods
to allow time for oxygen to absorbed into the blood-stream.
They are the site of gas exchange, this is where the oxygen is absorbed in
to the blood stream."

============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:21 PM
To: Dave G.; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you

My alveoli and I are so thankful to know that.  BTW, WTF are/is alveoli?  I 
once knew a girl that would eat... uh, never mind.

ED
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave G." <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:10 PM
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you

My Great Uncle Ivor was gassed in the trenches in WW1.. cost him his larynx 
and windpipe, ate
throught a tube, couldn't talk.

Smoking while using Brake cleaner or most dry-cleaning fluids such as 
Trichlorethelyne also
results in the generation of Phosegene.

It wil also eat your alveoli !

Don't ask!!

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May  8 20:24:48 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 22:24:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re;
 [spridgets] What year do you tink   this sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
	<r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BE61CF0.9080101@comcast.net>

On 5/8/2010 4:30 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:
> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM,<jjj at acsnet.com>  wrote:
> If seats are original it probably is a pre 66 as the 66 seats were
> different than the 62 thru 65 seats.
>
> Beg to differ Kurt... The very late 64s (Mk III) on up to the late 67s
> (MK IV fold down top model) had the same seats. The priors (Mk II)
> were the wrap around style and the 68 and up had headrests.
>
>
I beg to differ too.
1968 with padded dash still had no head rests.
69 started with head rests, very tall unique to that year only butt ugly 
headrests. Tonneau covers were unique to those seats too.
But I do agree with the late 64 thru 67 AND 68 all having the same seats.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May  8 20:35:38 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 22:35:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fate of the Midget
In-Reply-To: <5F87FC215C7949C8BEEE8244478008A8@AndrewHP>
References: <5F87FC215C7949C8BEEE8244478008A8@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <4BE61F7A.8070204@comcast.net>

On 5/8/2010 6:45 PM, Andrew Payne wrote:
> So after a really rough year, I am finally starting in to the '76.  I have
> accumulated parts: floors, sills, pillar skins.  I planned to patch the rear
> 1/4s with fabricated metal.  Somehow I missed that the rear bulkhead is also
> rusted through at the base corners, and the parcel shelf brace is also
> perforated at the bottom.  Additionally, the jack cross member is also
> perforated.

> What do y'all think?

The jack cross member is basic 2" U channel. Check your local sheetmetal 
shop. I had them made up for around $20.
The jack hole tube is a piece of pipe, I made mine out of steel pipe and 
some scrap metal.
Also the sheet metal shop may have some scraps. A whole sheet of 20 
gauge costs $55 and it is 4' x 10', my shop will sell 1/2 a sheet for 
$27 or sell me weird cut offs they will never use or bent, slightly 
rusty metal for a few bucks.
They did the  (metal) brake work for me on my Healey 3000 frame, 
basically a new frame for the car for about $150 cash and carry.
Look in the phone book for metal ducts or sheetmetal shops.
Tell them you are patching up an old car, they will help.
My shop is union, and they told me it will cost union rates to fire up 
and use the machines so the guys made my stuff on their coffee break so 
I didn't have to pay the going rate.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May  8 20:38:10 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 22:38:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <AA049EE11B774FBCAAF96FD9F0219F46@HomePC>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
	<4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<AA049EE11B774FBCAAF96FD9F0219F46@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4BE62012.2020904@comcast.net>

On 5/8/2010 8:21 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:
   BTW, WTF are/is alveoli?

That is a rare Italian specialty dish, similar to Ravioli but made with 
brake clean ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May  8 21:10:26 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 22:10:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re;
 [spridgets] What year do you tink    this sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <4BE61CF0.9080101@comcast.net>
References: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
	<r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BE61CF0.9080101@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BE627A2.4090905@justbrits.com>

<< ...69 started with head rests,... >>

And fer us older folks, IF you will remember is WHEN
the FMVSS "Rules" took effect -:( -:( -:( !!!

Ed

PS:  And IMNSHO, gotten WORSE ever since !!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May  8 22:20:25 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:20:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Re; Re; Re;
 [spridgets] What year do you tink  this  sprite is?
In-Reply-To: <r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2934.66.172.236.83.1273342537.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
	<r2ib777e2be1005081330v5336a645l1771996f2f7d7acc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x2ve98d88091005082120p6443d63i4647767456be67cc@mail.gmail.com>

Our original 68 DOES NOT have headrests....

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM,  <jjj at acsnet.com> wrote:
> If seats are original it probably is a pre 66 as the 66 seats were
> different than the 62 thru 65 seats.
>
> Beg to differ Kurt... The very late 64s (Mk III) on up to the late 67s
> (MK IV fold down top model) had the same seats. The priors (Mk II)
> were the wrap around style and the 68 and up had headrests.
>
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
> 1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self
> _______________________________________________
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May  8 23:24:11 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 00:24:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <4BE62012.2020904@comcast.net>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
	<4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<AA049EE11B774FBCAAF96FD9F0219F46@HomePC>
	<4BE62012.2020904@comcast.net>
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Copious amounts of Chianti will cure it though....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> On 5/8/2010 8:21 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:
>  BTW, WTF are/is alveoli?
>
> That is a rare Italian specialty dish, similar to Ravioli but made with
> brake clean ;)
>
>
> --
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> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May  9 07:12:36 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 07:12:36 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] fate of the Midget
In-Reply-To: <4BE61F7A.8070204@comcast.net>
References: <5F87FC215C7949C8BEEE8244478008A8@AndrewHP>
	<4BE61F7A.8070204@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <v2k5f00d9911005090612m7bd7c3ebjfb6527473fc77ba7@mail.gmail.com>

Sometimes it helps to bring donuts.


> Tell them you are patching up an old car, they will help.
> My shop is union, and they told me it will cost union rates to fire up and
> use the machines so the guys made my stuff on their coffee break so I didn't
> have to pay the going rate.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici

From jjj at acsnet.com  Sun May  9 08:01:57 2010
From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 09:01:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ect ;
	[spridgets]what year do you think this sprite is
Message-ID: <1935.66.172.236.92.1273413717.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>

Well I'm hardly an expert but from watching a lot of e-bay and craigs list
sales and the two midgets I have I thought there was a change somewhere in
the 65 time frame from the interem seat with the solid bottom to a seat
with suspention bottom but no headrests. Check out your Moss catalog as
well.
Kurt.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun May  9 08:03:24 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 10:03:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Epoxy Primer
Message-ID: <B913B02D80874C8397EB4407685E8090@Home>

Eastwood says their epoxy primer is  sandable (http://www.eastwood.com/ew-epoxy-primer-gray-gallon-1-1.html).  Anyone tried this?

Michael Rowe

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun May  9 09:52:53 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 10:52:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Epoxy Primer
In-Reply-To: <B913B02D80874C8397EB4407685E8090@Home>
References: <B913B02D80874C8397EB4407685E8090@Home>
Message-ID: <4E9A634C-ADFD-4E63-922F-17BAF7A50D26@comcast.net>

I've been using an epoxy primer and reading up a bit and research indicates
that it all is "sandable" but you have to wait at least 48 hours and it gunks
up the sandpaper..  YMMV.

Lester


On May 9, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> Eastwood says their epoxy primer is  sandable
(http://www.eastwood.com/ew-epoxy-primer-gray-gallon-1-1.html).  Anyone tried
this?
>
> Michael Rowe
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun May  9 09:55:36 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 11:55:36 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
Message-ID: <e25a.75eaf2b7.391834f8@aol.com>

Trichethylene 111 is the chemical that gives off vapour which when heated  
produces Phosgene nerve gas.  As far as I know, in the UK at least, it's no  
longer available.  It was a favourite for cleaning items such as electrical 
 circuit boards as it dryed so well in air.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 09/05/2010 00:04:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
andrewpayne at intrex.net writes:

It's  called Phosgene gas, and it was used in WWI. A drop of cleaner  is

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun May  9 11:02:42 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 13:02:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <e25a.75eaf2b7.391834f8@aol.com>
References: <e25a.75eaf2b7.391834f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BD25173C635D4AB3A4D97B84D491903A@Home>

"Phosgene is formed by decomposition of chlorinated hydrocarbon solvents by 
ultraviolet radiation. It reacts with moisture in the lungs to produce 
hydrogen chloride, which in turn destroys lung tissue. For this reason, any 
use of chlorinated solvents should be well away from welding operations or 
any operation in which ultraviolet radiation or intense heat is generated." 
(http://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/weldhlth.html)

Note that hydrogen chloride --> hydrochloric acid is in our stomachs in 
fairly high concentrations  (0.5%  --> heart burn, acid reflux), and we 
often breath it when we burp up stomach juices.  You will not fall over dead 
from breathing small amounts of HCl.  It is just an irritant in small 
concentrations.

Michael Rowe 

From pchast at francomm.com  Sun May  9 11:42:45 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 13:42:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <BD25173C635D4AB3A4D97B84D491903A@Home>
References: <e25a.75eaf2b7.391834f8@aol.com>
	<BD25173C635D4AB3A4D97B84D491903A@Home>
Message-ID: <op.vcf8nxa3sjevdj@pete200>

Hi all,

After this discussion started I went looking for the documentation.
This was always a hazzard for those of us that worked on refrigeration
systems.

Check out: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cis_wsh_cet5025_90105_7.doc

Pete


On Sun, 09 May 2010 13:02:42 -0400, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>  
wrote:

>
> "Phosgene is formed by decomposition of chlorinated hydrocarbon solvents  
> by ultraviolet radiation. It reacts with moisture in the lungs to  
> produce hydrogen chloride, which in turn destroys lung tissue. For this  
> reason, any use of chlorinated solvents should be well away from welding  
> operations or any operation in which ultraviolet radiation or intense  
> heat is generated."  
> (http://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/weldhlth.html)
>
> Note that hydrogen chloride --> hydrochloric acid is in our stomachs in  
> fairly high concentrations  (0.5%  --> heart burn, acid reflux), and we  
> often breath it when we burp up stomach juices.  You will not fall over  
> dead from breathing small amounts of HCl.  It is just an irritant in  
> small concentrations.
>
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun May  9 13:36:06 2010
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 19:36:06 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
Message-ID: <1662436771-1273433766-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1812654994-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I may be a chicken little on this, but this was a danger that I did not grasp from the manuals.  As with any hobby worth doing, the car hobby has risks. I try to have good habits and watch out for the imminent dangers, electrocution, cutting of a limb, blindness. My research tells me that phosgene should be in the same category.  After learning about the danger, I have asked several welders about the risk.  All have worked with someone who is either permanently disabled or will likely have lifelong tremors or similar problems.  Admittedly, I live in a small town, and it could be the same guy.  Many folks say they have gotten lucky many times.  
Apparently arc/MIG welding provides the perfect atmosphere to create the toxin.  Heat, UV, and the welder is typically quite close to his work.  
I'm not saying that it will happen, but this is a under-emphasised risk, which seems more probable for us weekend warriors who have old cans all around and work in less than ideal spaces.  Not to rant, but this is an issue with our litigious society, nothing is safe, but it is hard to filter the certain death warnings from the things that happened once to a guy that won a lawsuit.. All car ads feature text saying "do not attempt" whenever the car is shown in motion.  I saw an ad for an inhaler that read "not a capsule, do not swallow.". So I, and probably many others, skim the warnings, disregard half since the item will only cause cancer in California, then try to figure out how not to get electrocuted.  it's disclosure overload.  My safety glasses came with a tag that read,"never operate this tool without proper eye protection".
In closing the only guy in town that welds used gas tanks told me he was scared of Phosgene, but the gas tanks are what paralyzed him.
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From bkitterer at me.com  Sun May  9 18:44:16 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 17:44:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>
	<4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <905F7BDE-0AD6-4506-96B1-4C3509AFCF69@me.com>

On May 8, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Dave G. wrote:

> My Great Uncle Ivor was gassed in the trenches in WW1.. cost him his larynx and windpipe, ate 
> throught a tube, couldn't talk.

When folks talk about servicemen being gas in WWI it is usually Mustard gas not Phosegene.

There are two significant differences:

First mustard gas, in liquid form, will eat through your shoes and the gas does similar things to your body.

Phosegene has a different problem.  I do not recall the biological effect but  your nose can detect it at 2 ppm,  unfortunately it is deadly at 1 ppm so you never want to be able to smell Phosegene.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun May  9 20:23:47 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 19:23:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding safety - Brake Cleaner can kill you
In-Reply-To: <905F7BDE-0AD6-4506-96B1-4C3509AFCF69@me.com>
References: <F68B5F7335264DFEB75C9B572575ABD5@AndrewHP>,
	<4BE5EF79.4829.20D3A1D@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<905F7BDE-0AD6-4506-96B1-4C3509AFCF69@me.com>
Message-ID: <4BE76E33.14544.28B87F1@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I worked out at Tooele Army depot, Utah for a while.
GB, VX5, mainly weepers and leakers..
I'm glad they're finally destroying them..

By the way... look at the components in the  stuff you spray on your 
roses...  

One way or another, they're gonna getcha!

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 9 May 2010 at 17:44, Kitterer Bob wrote:
> When folks talk about servicemen being gas in WWI it is usually
> Mustard gas not Phosegene.

From banjojohn at cox.net  Sun May  9 21:31:44 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 22:31:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: fuel delivery issue
Message-ID: <75342A535FC44FF1A0887FF30DE065BD@authorizf47d14>

Thanks for everyone's responses a few weeks ago.  I believe I finally found
and fixed the culprit.  I pulled the fuel tank today and removed the sender.
I could see that the previous owner had done a coating treatment to the
tank.  I have had the car about 15 years and did not realize it.  It looks
like the coating was applied by sloshing it around in the tank, and it
coated the screen filter for the pick up tube.  It must have had enough
leakage that it could supply enough fuel until I ran it hard and then it
just ran out of gas it could get through the mostly clogged screen.  It has
probably had the few holes in the coating gradually fill with particles over
the years till it could not get enough fuel through.  My solution was to
take a long screw driver and punch through the screen in several places.  I
am using an inline fuel filter, so I should catch any debris before it gets
to the carbs.  I took it for a spin tonight, and so far so good.  After
seeing the coated screen, about 2/3 of the way up, I am surprised I could
get enough fuel to run at all, once the fuel level got below the coated
area.  Anyway, I thought I'd report back incase someone else has a similar
issue,

Thanks

John O'Brien

'61 bugeye

'65 BJ8 

 

  _____  

From: John O'Brien [mailto:banjojohn at cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:41 PM
To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net'
Subject: fuel delivery issue

 

Hi all you wealth of knowledge:

My Bugeye with a 1275 has been giving me a challenge lately.  Last year it
would die suddenly after driving for a while, and usually after sitting at
idle for a while and then pushing it hard.  I would sit for 5 minutes and
then it would start and run normally again.  It seems like it started after
I dropped the fuel tank to reseal the sender unit.  I had been having gas
leak around the sender if I filled the tank full.  I thought I had a non
vented gas cap, so I bought a new one. Still happening even if I leave the
cap off or loose.  I have an aftermarket Mr. Gasket electronic fuel pump
mounted just above the fuel tank in the axle tunnel.  I thought it might be
acting up, so I put in another one I had and got the same result.  I have a
glass fuel filter in the engine bay, and I can see that when I first start
and until it gets hot the filter is full of gas.  When it starts acting up,
I can see that the filter is empty.  I thought about vapor lock from heat in
the engine bay, so I insulated the fuel line from where it comes up from
under the car to nearly the carburetors, leaving the filter uncovered so I
can see.  It is still happening.  Does anyone have any idea what is going
on, and what I can do to stop it?  I used to have the fuel pump in the
engine bay instead of near the tank.  I thought having the fuel line
pressurized from the tank forward would decrease the likelihood of vapor
lock.  I don't remember having trouble with vapor lock when the pump was in
the engine bay. 

Thanks for any help.

John O'Brien

'61 bugeye

'65 BJ8  

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May  9 23:20:34 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 22:20:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: fuel delivery issue
In-Reply-To: <75342A535FC44FF1A0887FF30DE065BD@authorizf47d14>
References: <75342A535FC44FF1A0887FF30DE065BD@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <23370919.20100509222034@pacifier.com>

Hello John,

     The solutions are usually simple. It's finding the real cause of
     the problem that's the hard part. CONGRATS, as this was NOT an
     easy one to find. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I won't tell you anything about my salivary glands," said Tom secretively.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 10 04:49:44 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 05:49:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: fuel delivery issue
In-Reply-To: <75342A535FC44FF1A0887FF30DE065BD@authorizf47d14>
References: <75342A535FC44FF1A0887FF30DE065BD@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <4ECF510232FB42E08B819D250A90780F@HomePC>

John, you probably will want a filter before the fuel pump, as well.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 10:31 PM
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: fuel delivery issue

Thanks for everyone's responses a few weeks ago.  I believe I finally found
and fixed the culprit.  I pulled the fuel tank today and removed the sender.
I could see that the previous owner had done a coating treatment to the
tank.  I have had the car about 15 years and did not realize it.  It looks
like the coating was applied by sloshing it around in the tank, and it
coated the screen filter for the pick up tube.  It must have had enough
leakage that it could supply enough fuel until I ran it hard and then it
just ran out of gas it could get through the mostly clogged screen.  It has
probably had the few holes in the coating gradually fill with particles over
the years till it could not get enough fuel through.  My solution was to
take a long screw driver and punch through the screen in several places.  I
am using an inline fuel filter, so I should catch any debris before it gets
to the carbs.  I took it for a spin tonight, and so far so good.  After
seeing the coated screen, about 2/3 of the way up, I am surprised I could
get enough fuel to run at all, once the fuel level got below the coated
area.  Anyway, I thought I'd report back incase someone else has a similar
issue,

Thanks

John O'Brien

'61 bugeye

'65 BJ8



  _____

From: John O'Brien [mailto:banjojohn at cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:41 PM
To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net'
Subject: fuel delivery issue



Hi all you wealth of knowledge:

My Bugeye with a 1275 has been giving me a challenge lately.  Last year it
would die suddenly after driving for a while, and usually after sitting at
idle for a while and then pushing it hard.  I would sit for 5 minutes and
then it would start and run normally again.  It seems like it started after
I dropped the fuel tank to reseal the sender unit.  I had been having gas
leak around the sender if I filled the tank full.  I thought I had a non
vented gas cap, so I bought a new one. Still happening even if I leave the
cap off or loose.  I have an aftermarket Mr. Gasket electronic fuel pump
mounted just above the fuel tank in the axle tunnel.  I thought it might be
acting up, so I put in another one I had and got the same result.  I have a
glass fuel filter in the engine bay, and I can see that when I first start
and until it gets hot the filter is full of gas.  When it starts acting up,
I can see that the filter is empty.  I thought about vapor lock from heat in
the engine bay, so I insulated the fuel line from where it comes up from
under the car to nearly the carburetors, leaving the filter uncovered so I
can see.  It is still happening.  Does anyone have any idea what is going
on, and what I can do to stop it?  I used to have the fuel pump in the
engine bay instead of near the tank.  I thought having the fuel line
pressurized from the tank forward would decrease the likelihood of vapor
lock.  I don't remember having trouble with vapor lock when the pump was in
the engine bay.

Thanks for any help.

John O'Brien

'61 bugeye

'65 BJ8
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 08:30:17 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 07:30:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thread size of our lug nuts
In-Reply-To: <6D8F1523F34A432ABEF297452C2015AA@HERBYZ>
Message-ID: <70525.21643.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Linda,
 
While out & about this weekend i found a long block in California.
There was a guy with a long block for sale. i know your not in California.
 
Here is the information on the motor. - I'm not sure of the year -
I have not looked up thenumbers to verify the year of the motor.
I am sure some one here can tell us.
 
Vigil,
 
The engine # is 12C/DA/H 25841, block # is 12G 1279. I got the engine from a
retired guy who rebuilds and sells a few a year.  My Sprite project plans
changed and I never install it, so now I'm selling the engine and other parts.
The builder has an engine stand where I heard it run and monitored the oil
pressure and temp before I bought it. I would like $1600.

Mel
 
This should give you an idea of what to pay for a long block.
 
Vigil 

--- On Thu, 5/6/10, Herby <herby at herbytoys.com> wrote:


From: Herby <herby at herbytoys.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thread size of our lug nuts
To: "'Linda Grunthaner'" <grunthaner at gmail.com>, "'Spridget list'"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 9:12 PM


Lin,
It's 3/8-24.
Try here http://www.vtoperformance.com/acatalog/Mag_Lug_Nuts.html


Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon May 10 09:41:59 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:41:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal box modifications - just pedals
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Message-ID: <BAY147-w524A634F04CDA949D5788AB8F90@phx.gbl>

An extra 1.75"??  You wouldn't want it dragging on the floor ...  ;)
Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg






> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:52:24 -0400
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal box modifications - just pedals
>
> Hi List,
> After a lot of though I decided against modifying the pedal box  (moving
> the pivot) and went with modifying the pedals, actually just the clutch
> pedal, instead.
> I now have the seat 1.75" further back which is absolutely as far  back as
> it goes (it's a thin racing seat).  So I consequently have 1.75" more arm
> reach but not yet  straight arms (with a steering column already shortened
by
> 1.0" and a flat  steering wheel).
> What I did in the end was increase the length of the clutch pedal
> (directly under the pad) though ideally it needs to be a bit longer  still.
For the
> brake pedal I simply swapped  the standard 1969 pedal for a 1500 Midget
> brake pedal which I already knew sat a  lot higher.
> For the throttle pedal I swapped back to my less shortened 15   Midget
> pedal that I had in a few years ago.
> I'm sure we'd all like an extra 1.75"(!) and certainly the car does feel  a
> lot more comfortable and I even notice the difference when getting in and
> out.
>
> So, job done apart from eventually lengthening another 69 clutch  pedal.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330s
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon May 10 10:44:32 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:44:32 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas
Message-ID: <4fd73.5ac68996.391991f0@aol.com>

Mustard gas is a blistering agent while Phosgene is a nerve agent.   There 
are gasses which are blood agents but I don't know the name of one.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 10/05/2010 03:00:59 GMT Daylight Time, bkitterer at me.com  
writes:

First  mustard gas, in liquid form, will eat through your shoes and the gas 
does  similar things to your body.

Phosegene has a different problem.  I  do not recall the biological effect 
but  your nose can detect it at 2  ppm,  unfortunately it is deadly at 1 ppm 
so you never want to be able to  smell Phosegene.

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 11:52:12 2010
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:52:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sighting
Message-ID: <618920.51352.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sunday late afternoon.  Midget RWA black or navy blue on Tn. Highway 70 in
Roane county.  Chrome shiny, paint glossy. Anybody on the list?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon May 10 13:10:17 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:10:17 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sighting
Message-ID: <509bb.2cf82fc1.3919b419@aol.com>

Not me.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 10/05/2010 19:42:47 GMT Daylight Time,  
redmidget72 at yahoo.com writes:

Sunday  late afternoon.  Midget RWA black or navy blue on Tn. Highway 70  in
Roane county.  Chrome shiny, paint glossy. Anybody on the  list?

From banjojohn at cox.net  Mon May 10 13:19:27 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (banjojohn at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:19:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: fuel delivery issue
In-Reply-To: <4ECF510232FB42E08B819D250A90780F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <20100510151927.U8493.322381.imail@eastrmwml39>

Good thought.

---- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> John, you probably will want a filter before the fuel pump, as well.
> 
> LAD
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 10:31 PM
> To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] FW: fuel delivery issue
> 
> Thanks for everyone's responses a few weeks ago.  I believe I finally found
> and fixed the culprit.  I pulled the fuel tank today and removed the sender.
> I could see that the previous owner had done a coating treatment to the
> tank.  I have had the car about 15 years and did not realize it.  It looks
> like the coating was applied by sloshing it around in the tank, and it
> coated the screen filter for the pick up tube.  It must have had enough
> leakage that it could supply enough fuel until I ran it hard and then it
> just ran out of gas it could get through the mostly clogged screen.  It has
> probably had the few holes in the coating gradually fill with particles over
> the years till it could not get enough fuel through.  My solution was to
> take a long screw driver and punch through the screen in several places.  I
> am using an inline fuel filter, so I should catch any debris before it gets
> to the carbs.  I took it for a spin tonight, and so far so good.  After
> seeing the coated screen, about 2/3 of the way up, I am surprised I could
> get enough fuel to run at all, once the fuel level got below the coated
> area.  Anyway, I thought I'd report back incase someone else has a similar
> issue,
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John O'Brien
> 
> '61 bugeye
> 
> '65 BJ8
> 
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: John O'Brien [mailto:banjojohn at cox.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:41 PM
> To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net'
> Subject: fuel delivery issue
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all you wealth of knowledge:
> 
> My Bugeye with a 1275 has been giving me a challenge lately.  Last year it
> would die suddenly after driving for a while, and usually after sitting at
> idle for a while and then pushing it hard.  I would sit for 5 minutes and
> then it would start and run normally again.  It seems like it started after
> I dropped the fuel tank to reseal the sender unit.  I had been having gas
> leak around the sender if I filled the tank full.  I thought I had a non
> vented gas cap, so I bought a new one. Still happening even if I leave the
> cap off or loose.  I have an aftermarket Mr. Gasket electronic fuel pump
> mounted just above the fuel tank in the axle tunnel.  I thought it might be
> acting up, so I put in another one I had and got the same result.  I have a
> glass fuel filter in the engine bay, and I can see that when I first start
> and until it gets hot the filter is full of gas.  When it starts acting up,
> I can see that the filter is empty.  I thought about vapor lock from heat in
> the engine bay, so I insulated the fuel line from where it comes up from
> under the car to nearly the carburetors, leaving the filter uncovered so I
> can see.  It is still happening.  Does anyone have any idea what is going
> on, and what I can do to stop it?  I used to have the fuel pump in the
> engine bay instead of near the tank.  I thought having the fuel line
> pressurized from the tank forward would decrease the likelihood of vapor
> lock.  I don't remember having trouble with vapor lock when the pump was in
> the engine bay.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> John O'Brien
> 
> '61 bugeye
> 
> '65 BJ8
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon May 10 16:54:41 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 17:54:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sighting
In-Reply-To: <618920.51352.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <618920.51352.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BE88EB1.3010408@justbrits.com>

<< Sunday late afternoon. Midget RWA black or navy blue on Tn. Highway 70 in

Roane county.  Chrome shiny, paint glossy. Anybody on the list? >>

Anywhere near Andersonville, TN what-ever-your-name-is ??

Ed

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue May 11 06:34:02 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:34:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] well it is for free....
Message-ID: <1336608554.22300891273581242523.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/zip/1733329098.html 

i have no words.... 
Ryan 

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue May 11 08:37:14 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 09:37:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] well it is for free....
In-Reply-To: <1336608554.22300891273581242523.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1336608554.22300891273581242523.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxEu0w8CnY4JGObOnfP5KryyfqoNWCt0u-uGw1@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:34 AM,  <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/zip/1733329098.html
>
> i have no words....

Me neither! ... (posting has been deleted)

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue May 11 10:22:43 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 09:22:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] was a free outhouse. only used once ...bill in corvallis
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxEu0w8CnY4JGObOnfP5KryyfqoNWCt0u-uGw1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1336608554.22300891273581242523.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTinxEu0w8CnY4JGObOnfP5KryyfqoNWCt0u-uGw1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <597F2EF336D04059BDC21FB2312B6473@spider>

1.                             Outhouse (free)
<http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/zip/1733329098.html> 

Date: 2010-05-10, 11:28AM EDT Reply to:
sale-ugemu-1733329098 at craigslist.org. 

Used for a wedding and have no more need. ... image 1733329098-0 ...
philadelphia.craigslist.org/zip/1733329098.html

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Foster
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:37 AM
To: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] well it is for free....

 

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:34 AM,  <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/zip/1733329098.html

> 

> i have no words....

 

Me neither! ... (posting has been deleted)

_______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue May 11 10:33:27 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:33:27 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget brake pedal
Message-ID: <987f9.5ca07c69.391ae0d7@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
Anyone with a 1500 Midget brake pedal they want to part with?
 
Thanks
 
Weslake-Monza 1330

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 12:35:53 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 11:35:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Project For Sale
Message-ID: <177060.465.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1735229421.html

This was listed by an acquaintance, and I am not familiar with the car other than the many pictures I've seen. Lots of time spent underneath rebuilding and painting, the body needs some minor repair and paint. Loosing his storage and it must be gone by the end of May, this looks like a good, easy to complete project to me. NFI but just wanted to give the list a heads up. Located in the Allentown or Bethlehem area of PA.
John
Fogelsville, PA 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 13:24:19 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:24:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] well it is for free....
In-Reply-To: <1336608554.22300891273581242523.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <680413.62670.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Ad closed
 
It must have gone quick - what ever it was

--- On Tue, 5/11/10, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
wrote:


From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] well it is for free....
To: "bali, utsav" <UBali at prosidion.com>, "EasternOshitGroup"
<EasternOshitGroup at yahoogroups.com>, "Frajerman, Scott"
<Scott.Frajerman at tevausa.com>, "Kubanoff, Annie (MLIM)"
<annie.kubanoff at blackrock.com>, "Stoltz, Craig [CNTUS]"
<CStoltz at cntus.jnj.com>, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 5:34 AM


http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/zip/1733329098.html

i have no words....
Ryan
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 07:08:33 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 06:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Disk Wheel
Message-ID: <276833.13321.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just converted my 74 Midget to disk wheels, and need a single disk wheel so I can mount a tire for a spare. I am preparing for the trip to Carlisle, PA at the end of next week. Anyone have one to sell? 
Thanks,
John
Fogelsville, PA

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed May 12 09:56:01 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Disk Wheel
In-Reply-To: <276833.13321.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <130178.99954.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks to all who replied to my request. I will have a wheel soon. You guys and girls are the greatest.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Wed, 5/12/10, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:
I just converted my 74 Midget to disk wheels, and need a single disk wheel so I can mount a tire for a spare.

From stevenm at optonline.net  Wed May 12 11:28:23 2010
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 13:28:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] there must be a car guy in the Senate
Message-ID: <41E9D5DF117D47FDA51738E7029FFF35@1705n3>

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c111:./temp/~c111xovn9x

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May 12 11:57:53 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] there must be a car guy in the Senate
In-Reply-To: <41E9D5DF117D47FDA51738E7029FFF35@1705n3>
Message-ID: <41797.43264.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

More likely someone just angling for more votes.

jay

--- On Wed, 5/12/10, Steven Michelsen <stevenm at optonline.net> wrote:


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c111:./temp/~c111xovn9x

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May 12 11:58:53 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 12:58:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale, cheap, Madison Westconsin
Message-ID: <201005121058890.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

This is so right, on so many levels....


Husband left me and his stuff


----------
Date: 2010-05-12, 11:10AM CDT
Reply to: 
<mailto:sale-m6zsj-1737118790 at craigslist.org?subject=Husband%20left%20me%20and%20his%20stuff&body=%0A%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fmadison.craigslist.org%2Ftls%2F1737118790.html%0A>sale-m6zsj-1737118790 at craigslist.org 
[<http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts>Errors when 
replying to ads?]

----------

I just want to get rid of his tools asap snap on and others will sell 
cheap call me asap 414-839-7908

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed May 12 12:54:11 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:54:11 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 BE For Sale
Message-ID: <20100512.125411.25904.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

Hey folks,
I just wanted to let you all know that there's a nice, original (though
repainted) '60 BE for sale in my area. I used to race against him, he's moving
to Mexico permanently and selling both the road car and his vintage race BE.
the road car is a 948, in excellent original (his words, not mine)condition
(hasn't seen rain since he had it repainted in 1995) with a complete cars
worth of spares (He won't sell the spares, I tried) including a good 948 and
smoothcase. Asking $13k
The race car has a 1275 in it comes with a fresh Comptune 948 as well.
Pictures are at:
www.flickr.com/photos/1071s
If you are interested, email me off list and I'll give you his name and
number.
NFI, YMMV, Yada, Yada, Yada

Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From stevenm at optonline.net  Wed May 12 13:41:01 2010
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 15:41:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] there must be a car guy in the Senate
References: <41E9D5DF117D47FDA51738E7029FFF35@1705n3>
Message-ID: <906C96515B9E41D0A0B003331BD4B177@1705n3>

That first link I posted turned out to be temporary - these will work better...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:sr97:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr111-97

http://blogs.popularhotrodding.com/6678909/events/us-senate-recognizes-collector-car-appreciation-day/index.html

and finally the actual bill - I saved a copy - never mind the warning...:

http://www.1978mgmidget.com/random/July_9_2010.pdf

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed May 12 16:40:12 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 15:40:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Parts
Message-ID: <5B788D9D-1D59-455F-BBD6-8EC93921EFF1@ado13.com>

Still looking for a 2" crank for the 1098 engine. Also need a baffled oil pan
for the 1098. Winners Circle used to make one but no longer do so.

millerls at ado13.com

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed May 12 17:33:30 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 16:33:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Parts
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilJif6zte9I4YZhn5VPa9DM4UswWU2fBZF5bajP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5B788D9D-1D59-455F-BBD6-8EC93921EFF1@ado13.com>
	<AANLkTilJif6zte9I4YZhn5VPa9DM4UswWU2fBZF5bajP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ABFFC2D-5BE9-4F52-AE3C-949A1FC35029@ado13.com>

Someone just told me that the 1275 pan will fit the 1098 (10CG) block. Is this
true????

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed May 12 18:09:53 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 17:09:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Parts
In-Reply-To: <2ABFFC2D-5BE9-4F52-AE3C-949A1FC35029@ado13.com>
References: <5B788D9D-1D59-455F-BBD6-8EC93921EFF1@ado13.com>
	<AANLkTilJif6zte9I4YZhn5VPa9DM4UswWU2fBZF5bajP@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ABFFC2D-5BE9-4F52-AE3C-949A1FC35029@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinQRsNuMbFeTjmkHFx4PcGN-hokx1voEaL3ysJp@mail.gmail.com>

Larry,
The pan from the 1098 (2" mains) that I have is identical to the 948 pan
that was on FROG AYE.  The 1275 pan has larger cutouts for the main seals.
Hal

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> Someone just told me that the 1275 pan will fit the 1098 (10CG) block. Is
> this
> true????
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed May 12 18:12:43 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 17:12:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Parts
In-Reply-To: <2ABFFC2D-5BE9-4F52-AE3C-949A1FC35029@ado13.com>
References: <5B788D9D-1D59-455F-BBD6-8EC93921EFF1@ado13.com>
	<AANLkTilJif6zte9I4YZhn5VPa9DM4UswWU2fBZF5bajP@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ABFFC2D-5BE9-4F52-AE3C-949A1FC35029@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTincJQspNozyQPURc85Tq2f9hKXmDHO4WdYMuxXl@mail.gmail.com>

Larry,
The 10CG engine has 1.75 mains.  The 10CC engine has 2" mains.
Hal

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> Someone just told me that the 1275 pan will fit the 1098 (10CG) block. Is
> this
> true????

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu May 13 10:44:08 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:44:08 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale, cheap, Madison Westconsin
Message-ID: <615f2.69ec6c41.391d8658@aol.com>

If he left his tools behind what can you say.  Any nice stuff you'd  like 
to ship across the pond if the price is right?
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 12/05/2010 19:19:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

This is  so right, on so many levels....


Husband left me and his  stuff

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu May 13 12:32:06 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 13:32:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale, cheap, Madison Westconsin
In-Reply-To: <615f2.69ec6c41.391d8658@aol.com>
References: <615f2.69ec6c41.391d8658@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4BEC45A6.708@justbrits.com>

<< If he left his tools behind what can you say. >>

He left the WRONG "thing behind", Daniel -:) ??

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Thu May 13 13:32:47 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:32:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] El Camino for Ed (Just Brits)
Message-ID: <AANLkTimos043vRhV0qS_rvJqkRfh8D3UmQjD1LHj1Z4X@mail.gmail.com>

Here ya go, Ed.  Another El Camino for ya, this one famous!  :)

http://www.motobullet.com/news.php?id=10242

Greg

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu May 13 14:54:15 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 13:54:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] El Camino for Ed (Just Brits)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimos043vRhV0qS_rvJqkRfh8D3UmQjD1LHj1Z4X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C811B507.18E94%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

You mean a poor man's Ranchero?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu May 13 15:34:22 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:34:22 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale, cheap, Madison Westconsin
Message-ID: <a93ae.3efe8003.391dca5e@aol.com>

I'd pack my tools and spridget spares first, clothes second.
 
In a message dated 13/05/2010 19:43:16 GMT Daylight Time,  
shop at justbrits.com writes:

He left  the WRONG "thing behind", Daniel -:) ??

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu May 13 16:17:44 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:17:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] there must be a car guy in the Senate
In-Reply-To: <906C96515B9E41D0A0B003331BD4B177@1705n3>
References: <41E9D5DF117D47FDA51738E7029FFF35@1705n3>
	<906C96515B9E41D0A0B003331BD4B177@1705n3>
Message-ID: <1E11F7E0-AF1A-4E3C-A48E-64A68F3BC604@phillymgclub.com>

Nice, Too bad it was last year

On May 12, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Steven Michelsen wrote:

> That first link I posted turned out to be temporary - these will work
better...
>
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:sr97:
>
> http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr111-97
>
>
http://blogs.popularhotrodding.com/6678909/events/us-senate-recognizes-collec
tor-car-appreciation-day/index.html
>
> and finally the actual bill - I saved a copy - never mind the warning...:
>
> http://www.1978mgmidget.com/random/July_9_2010.pdf
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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--

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu May 13 16:42:47 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:42:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] there must be a car guy in the Senate
In-Reply-To: <1E11F7E0-AF1A-4E3C-A48E-64A68F3BC604@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <C811CE77.18EA2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Nice, Too bad it was last year
designating July 9, 2010 as 3Collector Car Appreciation Day

From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu May 13 16:58:40 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:58:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, Last Call
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <C5E5CFB956E1490BBBF76E5395E7AEE3@psych.washington.edu>

The third gathering of the Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In 
Transit is happening this Saturday, May 15th.  If you are in the area and 
would like to join us, Please let us know.

There is quite a list of things to do from a 5 speed swap, a rear bushing 
replacement, to the obligatory LBC electrical and brake issues.

Participants are:
Phil Jones, Ed Perez, Bill Masquelier, Bill Loeb, Bill Gilroy,Bill West, 
Mike Burkhart, Chris Rae, Chris Karcher, and Rick Bastedo.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Ball" <richb at u.washington.edu>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call


> Spring is here for most of us and that means it is time for a meeting of 
> the
> Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit.
>
> NOSHIT 3 will take place on Saturday May 15th at Phil Jones house in North
> Seattle.  Phil has a nice dedicated, well equipped, two MG garage and 
> ample
> work space.  Currently we have two major projects scheduled.  We will be
> replacing rear bushings and leaf springs in Bill L '66 Sprite, and 
> swapping in
> a Datsun 5 speed  and a rear hub on Ed's 1275 equipped '78 Midget.  There 
> will
> be plenty of help available for other projects that need to be done on any 
> car
> there.  What do you want help with?
>
> If you have something on your car that needs attention, or you would like 
> to
> just join in and lend a hand let me know, and get your parts ordered.  The
> more the merrier.
>
> Here is a link to photos of past NOSHIT gatherings.
>
> NOSHIT I
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/
>
> NOSHIT II
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/NOSHIT%20II/
>
> Rich Ball
> '76 Midget
> Everett, WA
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/richb at u.washington.edu

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu May 13 17:27:11 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:27:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale, cheap, Madison Westconsin
In-Reply-To: <a93ae.3efe8003.391dca5e@aol.com>
References: <a93ae.3efe8003.391dca5e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4BEC8ACF.5050702@justbrits.com>

<< I'd pack my tools and spridget spares first, clothes second. >>

Whilst your "priority" IS correct Daniel, I would not
'pack' anything but the 'wife' !!!  LOL

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Thu May 13 20:32:12 2010
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 22:32:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Show Raleigh, NC
Message-ID: <8CD652B13DE548AF92481D4D4801C5CB@HomeComputer>

The North Carolina MG Club's British Car Show is this Saturday May 15th.

 

See here: http://ncmgcarclub.org/

 

Dean Swanson

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII (not in the show)

Holly Springs, NC

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri May 14 03:26:18 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 02:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Will I Live to see 80?
In-Reply-To: <SNT133-ds5EA095BB3DBF748F5F87A8EFD0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT133-ds5EA095BB3DBF748F5F87A8EFD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimsnz5JKBnu1NV41gG3JzsRCc48SRXhbgbC4_7V@mail.gmail.com>

     *Will I Live to see 80?*






*
**Here's something to think about.**

**I recently picked a new primary care doctor.  After two visits and
exhaustive Lab tests, he said I was doing  'fairly well' for my age.
(Now  over 60.)
**
**
A little concerned about that comment, I couldn't resist  asking him, 'Do
you  think I'll live to be 80?'
**
**
He asked, 'Do you smoke tobacco, or drink beer or wine?'
**
**
'Oh no,' I replied..  'I'm not doing drugs, either!'
**
**
Then he asked, 'Do you eat rib-eye steaks and barbecued ribs?
**
**
'I said, 'Not much.... my former doctor said that all red meat is very
 unhealthy!'
**
**
'Do you spend a lot of time in the sun, like playing golf, sailing, hiking,
or  bicycling?'
**
**
'No, I don't,' I said.
**
**
He asked, 'Do you gamble, drive British cars, ride motorcycles or have a lot
of sex?'**
**
**
'No,' I said.
**
**
He looked at me and said,...
*
*Then, why do you even give a shit?*

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 14 06:41:04 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:41:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale, cheap, Madison Westconsin
In-Reply-To: <4BEC8ACF.5050702@justbrits.com>
References: <a93ae.3efe8003.391dca5e@aol.com>, <4BEC8ACF.5050702@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w53C892C666260D82BB5AD4B8FD0@phx.gbl>

Check for recently overturned earth in ED's backyard and/or be suspicious if
the pool gets filled in.  :)

Robert D
> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:27:11 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
>
> << I'd pack my tools and spridget spares first, clothes second. >>
>
> Whilst your "priority" IS correct Daniel, I would not
> 'pack' anything but the 'wife' !!!  LOL
> _______________________________________________

From stevenm at optonline.net  Fri May 14 08:26:58 2010
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:26:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] there must be a car guy in the Senate
References: <C811CE77.18EA2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <46D42020FAA84D09A9B4F0927E7B5BB9@1705n3>

Yes there is some discrepancy with the dates around the various links.  Here 
is another that says July 9, 2010. 
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-sr513/show   Maybe it got started last 
year, then they lost it under a pile of papers, and finished it this year. 
Should be no surprise I guess.

Isn't every day "collector car appreciation day"?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Larry Macy" <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>; "Steven Michelsen" 
<stevenm at optonline.net>
Cc: "Midget Group at team.net" <spridgets at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] there must be a car guy in the Senate


> Nice, Too bad it was last year
designating July 9, 2010 as 3Collector Car Appreciation Day

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri May 14 12:02:11 2010
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 11:02:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, Last Call
In-Reply-To: <C5E5CFB956E1490BBBF76E5395E7AEE3@psych.washington.edu>
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
	<C5E5CFB956E1490BBBF76E5395E7AEE3@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikS41S5TrZ5PVLZXy4c4un8KtqYW-cGN3k_mNBR@mail.gmail.com>

I had sent mail to one of the threads but I am out of town this weekend.
Sorry, but I can't make it.  Looks like our parents did not have much of a
imagination, 6 people share 2 names with 4 Bill!  Now that is confusing.

Gilroy

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Richard Ball <richb at u.washington.edu>wrote:

> The third gathering of the Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In
> Transit is happening this Saturday, May 15th.  If you are in the area and
> would like to join us, Please let us know.
>
> There is quite a list of things to do from a 5 speed swap, a rear bushing
> replacement, to the obligatory LBC electrical and brake issues.
>
> Participants are:
> Phil Jones, Ed Perez, Bill Masquelier, Bill Loeb, Bill Gilroy,Bill West,
> Mike Burkhart, Chris Rae, Chris Karcher, and Rick Bastedo.
>
> Rich Ball
> '76 Midget
> Everett, WA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ball" <richb at u.washington.edu>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:35 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
>
>
> Spring is here for most of us and that means it is time for a meeting of
>> the
>> Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit.
>>
>> NOSHIT 3 will take place on Saturday May 15th at Phil Jones house in North
>> Seattle.  Phil has a nice dedicated, well equipped, two MG garage and
>> ample
>> work space.  Currently we have two major projects scheduled.  We will be
>> replacing rear bushings and leaf springs in Bill L '66 Sprite, and
>> swapping in
>> a Datsun 5 speed  and a rear hub on Ed's 1275 equipped '78 Midget.  There
>> will
>> be plenty of help available for other projects that need to be done on any
>> car
>> there.  What do you want help with?
>>
>> If you have something on your car that needs attention, or you would like
>> to
>> just join in and lend a hand let me know, and get your parts ordered.  The
>> more the merrier.
>>
>> Here is a link to photos of past NOSHIT gatherings.
>>
>> NOSHIT I
>> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/
>>
>> NOSHIT II
>> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/fish_surgeon/NOSHIT/NOSHIT%20II/
>>
>> Rich Ball
>> '76 Midget
>> Everett, WA
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/richb at u.washington.edu
>>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/wmgilroy at gmail.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 14 12:32:25 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:32:25 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, Last Call
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikS41S5TrZ5PVLZXy4c4un8KtqYW-cGN3k_mNBR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>,
	<C5E5CFB956E1490BBBF76E5395E7AEE3@psych.washington.edu>,
	<AANLkTikS41S5TrZ5PVLZXy4c4un8KtqYW-cGN3k_mNBR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w3025A97EBD113EFBD6B7CAB8FD0@phx.gbl>

Story of my life ... Bills all over the place!!


> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 11:02:11 -0700
> From: wmgilroy at gmail.com
>
> I had sent mail to one of the threads but I am out of town this weekend.
> Sorry, but I can't make it.  Looks like our parents did not have much of a
> imagination, 6 people share 2 names with 4 Bill!  Now that is confusing.
>
> Gilroy
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Richard Ball
<richb at u.washington.edu>wrote:
>
> > The third gathering of the Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In
> > Transit is happening this Saturday, May 15th.  If you are in the area and
> > would like to join us, Please let us know.
> >
> > There is quite a list of things to do from a 5 speed swap, a rear bushing
> > replacement, to the obligatory LBC electrical and brake issues.
> >
> > Participants are:
> > Phil Jones, Ed Perez, Bill Masquelier, Bill Loeb, Bill Gilroy,Bill West,
> > Mike Burkhart, Chris Rae, Chris Karcher, and Rick Bastedo.
> >
> > Rich Ball
> > '76 Midget
> > Everett, WA

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 16:49:26 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:49:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] GOLDEN COVE ALL BRITISH CARS COFFEE MEET - PV - Sunday
Message-ID: <669258.1479.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

B 
The last show there was over 30 cars -
B 
ThereB should beB even more as the weather gets warmer.
B 
B 


GOLDEN COVEB  ALL BRITISH CARS COFFEE MEET
B 
9:00 AM b" THIRD SUNDAYB B  NOW EVERY MONTH
B 
THE AUSTIN HEALEY ASSOCIATION INVITES YOU TO JOIN
B 
OTHER BRITISH CAR ENTHUSIASTS FORB CONVERSATION.
B 
Coffee & food available in the shopping center
B 
Plan onB excellent weather and aB scenicB drive to the ocean.
B 
GOLDEN COVE SHOPPING CENTER
31250 Palos Verdes Drive West,, Rancho Palos Verdes , CA, 90274B 
On the intersection of Hawthorne and Palos Verdes Dr. West.
B 
B 
>From the South
B 
For the adventurous, coming from Long Beach you can
catch W. 25th St. (at the end of Gaffey or Western Blvd. in
San Pedro) which will turn into P.V. West.
B 
B 
>From the North
B 
>From Redondo you can take PCH to P.V. Blvd.
which turns into P.V. Dr. West.
B 
B 
B 
B 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 20:01:27 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 19:01:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A update
Message-ID: <653024.47968.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
For all of you that have been wondering here is the latest information.
 
Paul still has a hard time talking still & his memory is improving.
The good news is Paul has been showing improvement.
The doctor released him from walking with a Cain.
That is a big step from where he started - now he walks on his own.
He also said that Paul has shown improvement in all areas.
His tongue still has some paralysis so his speech is still hard to
understand.
It is like if we try to talk while holding our tongue. It is getting better
every week.
 
Joey - Paul's son - will be moving Paul to Escondido, California at the end on
5/21/10.
He will be living in a assisted living home - He can not live by himself at
this point.
I will give every one an update on the exact location and phone number later.
The family wants him to get settled first. 
 
Vigil
So Cal
.
 
 
 

From denadave at ca.rr.com  Sat May 15 08:05:00 2010
From: denadave at ca.rr.com (Dena & David Vrba)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 07:05:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen removal
Message-ID: <D0EA21A5B18342B0A300FC4A57AA279F@vrbapc1>

Question about the pillar to body hardware on my '62 Sprite MKII.  The back 
"bolt" on both pillars has an accessible and visual nut.  The forward "bolt" 
have threads in the body or a welded nut on the inaccessible underside?
Once again thanks for your help.

Also, Any SoCal listers know of a good glass or windshield shop around 
Orange Co. or Riverside Co. to do the new gasket / windscreen install in the 
frame for me?

David Vrba
'62 Sprite MKII
Corona, CA 

From millerls at ado13.com  Sat May 15 11:29:32 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 10:29:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Parts
In-Reply-To: <506BB5B2F6B945EB92292CC4667CF857@JoePC>
References: <5B788D9D-1D59-455F-BBD6-8EC93921EFF1@ado13.com>
	<506BB5B2F6B945EB92292CC4667CF857@JoePC>
Message-ID: <E6F1A004-3B94-43DD-8BEA-624BB0FB9DFE@ado13.com>

I found a 1098 crank. Thanks to all that offered.

Larry

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sat May 15 11:45:22 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 10:45:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun flywheel conversion
Message-ID: <94C42C1B-E59B-4232-8BB1-68F07E0E5DF5@gerardsgarage.com>

If anyone is is need of having a their flywheel modified for the  
Datsun clutch in a 5 speed conversion, I am set up to do that. I'm  
putting a batch together to be done if anyone is interested. I can  
have the ring gear one for you at t he same time too, if necessary.

Please contact me off list if you'd like to get in on this run.

pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com

Thanks

Gerard

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat May 15 12:02:39 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:02:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] History Channel Horsepower
Message-ID: <AANLkTikUeQ6WM_0H51OSmNw2X5S3bInZtKgtFJC78-mQ@mail.gmail.com>

The History channel is running a show called Horsepower.  I believe it is
under the Modern Marvels catagory.   I caught it on my Tivo last night.

Some very fascinating stuff. .

A major huge piston engine that is about as big as a small house used for
back up power.  They show how the engine is built, from the rough castings
through to the end product.

They also go into the history of horsepower, how it was arrived at by way of
James Watts formula for the first steam engine.  . and how the SAE visits
car companys to ensure that claimed HP ratings are accurate on new engine
designs while on the dyno.

A lot of different areas covered. .

Just thought I would mention if any of the group has not caught it yet.


Kirk

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 12:21:41 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:21:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel pump
	please.
Message-ID: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>

My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out side
filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I removed
the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank to
clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was good
left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive way
she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3 gallons
in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out (visible
on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50. or
$60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
driveway again.
Linda

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May 15 12:29:02 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:29:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] History Channel Horsepower
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUeQ6WM_0H51OSmNw2X5S3bInZtKgtFJC78-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikUeQ6WM_0H51OSmNw2X5S3bInZtKgtFJC78-mQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7F7A835063744F878515255ABC747DB3@spider>

Agreed. That was a good hour show. ...bill in corvallis
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:03 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] History Channel Horsepower

The History channel is running a show called Horsepower.  I believe it is
under the Modern Marvels catagory.   I caught it on my Tivo last night.

Some very fascinating stuff. .

A major huge piston engine that is about as big as a small house used for
back up power.  They show how the engine is built, from the rough castings
through to the end product.

They also go into the history of horsepower, how it was arrived at by way of
James Watts formula for the first steam engine.  . and how the SAE visits
car companys to ensure that claimed HP ratings are accurate on new engine
designs while on the dyno.

A lot of different areas covered. .

Just thought I would mention if any of the group has not caught it yet.


Kirk
_______________________________________________

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 12:41:58 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:41:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimuv5PA2FJqBhp6DzhOQphuj636lIe-_Vz3p1y0@mail.gmail.com>

Well she fired up again so I took her for a spin runs better but time to
check other things I'm not sure it is the fuel pump because it flows better
now. I'll check to see if the plugs are fouled. She craps out at a stop and
if I park her she craps out. Time to open some books. I replaced a bad leaky
heater hose and checking all the other hoses too.
Lin

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out side
> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I removed
> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank to
> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was good
> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive way
> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3 gallons
> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out (visible
> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50. or
> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
> driveway again.
> Linda

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 15 12:43:03 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 12:43:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimvZApByOZk1WoV3oFggLP9vtuKimI1ZYKMRYK3@mail.gmail.com>

I thought Napa and Facet were good.  You may have a pickup problem or
something that is causing premature failure.

From montpaul at msn.com  Sat May 15 12:48:12 2010
From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:48:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump	please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W64079A506D0F6F3EAF714AD5FE0@phx.gbl>

I would try to knock off the screen, that it on the end of the pick-up line in
the tank. Try to use a semi rigid wire to knock it off by inserting the wire
into the pick-up tube at the tank.





> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:21:41 -0400
> From: grunthaner at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel pump
please.
>
> My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out
side
> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I removed
> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank
to
> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was
good
> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive
way
> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3
gallons
> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out (visible
> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50.
or
> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
> driveway again.
> Linda
> _______________________________________________
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 12:49:33 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:49:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Any lister near Lancaster PA
Message-ID: <AANLkTilA4mqa6aSRrT0mGJKeEIX4K0ux_jnuMx2oCZTk@mail.gmail.com>

Are any listers near Lancaster PA who can look at a FREE Bugeye bumper for
me? The address is Lakeview Drive, Lititz, PA. The guy won't mail it and
doesn't have a camera so it may not be worth a 3hr drive for me to look at.
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 12:54:06 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:54:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W64079A506D0F6F3EAF714AD5FE0@phx.gbl>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<SNT128-W64079A506D0F6F3EAF714AD5FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6Ox1GrxUF_FNEP2oAMK3QCoQvWF4Ayd51Xo1u@mail.gmail.com>

What screen Paul? I have a streight steel line going from the tank to the
pump. I cleared the line & the tank, I can see a full see-thru filter of gas
going to the pump then the out going side is now pumping fuel much better
into my 2nd filter. I don't know if this is an intermitent problem or not. I
am thinking it is a different problem now altogether I'll open the bowls and
see that the floats move freely as sometimes they stick.
Lin

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:48 PM, PAUL SHERMAN <montpaul at msn.com> wrote:

>  I would try to knock off the screen, that it on the end of the pick-up
> line in the tank. Try to use a semi rigid wire to knock it off by inserting
> the wire into the pick-up tube at the tank.
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:21:41 -0400
> > From: grunthaner at gmail.com
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
> pump please.
>
> >
> > My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one
> out.
> > You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out
> side
> > filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
> > from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I
> removed
> > the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank
> to
> > clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was
> good
> > left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive
> way
> > she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3
> gallons
> > in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back
> into
> > the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out
> (visible
> > on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
> > therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I
> don't
> > go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50.
> or
> > $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
> > driveway again.
> > Linda
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 12:55:31 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:55:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimvZApByOZk1WoV3oFggLP9vtuKimI1ZYKMRYK3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimvZApByOZk1WoV3oFggLP9vtuKimI1ZYKMRYK3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik2lO_xD0N5voRoq6se2W4Zs8196gyYANXwbfDp@mail.gmail.com>

Yes Derf I always heard good things about the Napa pumps Frank recommends
them too.
I just get frustrated and want to replace everything in my path. UGH!
Lin

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:43 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought Napa and Facet were good.  You may have a pickup problem or
> something that is causing premature failure.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 13:00:39 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:00:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimuv5PA2FJqBhp6DzhOQphuj636lIe-_Vz3p1y0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimuv5PA2FJqBhp6DzhOQphuj636lIe-_Vz3p1y0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilSlTUWX2WYaZZEOcD-KSnyd44HHjA7QVJt4CN_@mail.gmail.com>

OK here is a question do all electric fuel pumps stay on pumping all the
time or are there some that shut off once the bowls are full? Also is it OK
to replace our after market electric fuel pumps with the OG mechanical
pumps? Advantages/disadvantages.
Lin

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well she fired up again so I took her for a spin runs better but time to
> check other things I'm not sure it is the fuel pump because it flows better
> now. I'll check to see if the plugs are fouled. She craps out at a stop and
> if I park her she craps out. Time to open some books. I replaced a bad leaky
> heater hose and checking all the other hoses too.
> Lin
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
>> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out side
>> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
>> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I removed
>> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank to
>> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was good
>> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive way
>> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3 gallons
>> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
>> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out (visible
>> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
>> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
>> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50. or
>> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
>> driveway again.
>>  Linda

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat May 15 13:01:51 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:01:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.c om>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Remove the filter on the inlet side. That will fix the problem.

         Peter C
==
At 01:21 PM 5/15/2010, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
>You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out side
>filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
>from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I removed
>the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank to
>clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was good
>left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive way
>she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3 gallons
>in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
>the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out (visible
>on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
>therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
>go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50. or
>$60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
>driveway again.
>Linda

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 13:13:55 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:13:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: fuel delivery issue
In-Reply-To: <75342A535FC44FF1A0887FF30DE065BD@authorizf47d14>
References: <AcrcRSMlAQQy/LRITUel4H4NX7V/RATqqqaA>
	<75342A535FC44FF1A0887FF30DE065BD@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimrD4qhpLquVO7o7qKHedviPgHEY5P0U6EKYsYw@mail.gmail.com>

Cool fix John, after reading your post I thought maybe that was my problem
but my tank has never been coated. Onward for me to find my problem which is
similar. I will swap back my gas cap which is new.
Lin

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:31 PM, John O'Brien <banjojohn at cox.net> wrote:

> Thanks for everyone's responses a few weeks ago.  I believe I finally found
> and fixed the culprit.  I pulled the fuel tank today and removed the
> sender.
> I could see that the previous owner had done a coating treatment to the
> tank.  I have had the car about 15 years and did not realize it.  It looks
> like the coating was applied by sloshing it around in the tank, and it
> coated the screen filter for the pick up tube.  It must have had enough
> leakage that it could supply enough fuel until I ran it hard and then it
> just ran out of gas it could get through the mostly clogged screen.  It has
> probably had the few holes in the coating gradually fill with particles
> over
> the years till it could not get enough fuel through.  My solution was to
> take a long screw driver and punch through the screen in several places.  I
> am using an inline fuel filter, so I should catch any debris before it gets
> to the carbs.  I took it for a spin tonight, and so far so good.  After
> seeing the coated screen, about 2/3 of the way up, I am surprised I could
> get enough fuel to run at all, once the fuel level got below the coated
> area.  Anyway, I thought I'd report back incase someone else has a similar
> issue,
>
> Thanks
>
> John O'Brien
>
> '61 bugeye
>
> '65 BJ8
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: John O'Brien [mailto:banjojohn at cox.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:41 PM
> To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net'
> Subject: fuel delivery issue
>
>
>
> Hi all you wealth of knowledge:
>
> My Bugeye with a 1275 has been giving me a challenge lately.  Last year it
> would die suddenly after driving for a while, and usually after sitting at
> idle for a while and then pushing it hard.  I would sit for 5 minutes and
> then it would start and run normally again.  It seems like it started after
> I dropped the fuel tank to reseal the sender unit.  I had been having gas
> leak around the sender if I filled the tank full.  I thought I had a non
> vented gas cap, so I bought a new one. Still happening even if I leave the
> cap off or loose.  I have an aftermarket Mr. Gasket electronic fuel pump
> mounted just above the fuel tank in the axle tunnel.  I thought it might be
> acting up, so I put in another one I had and got the same result.  I have a
> glass fuel filter in the engine bay, and I can see that when I first start
> and until it gets hot the filter is full of gas.  When it starts acting up,
> I can see that the filter is empty.  I thought about vapor lock from heat
> in
> the engine bay, so I insulated the fuel line from where it comes up from
> under the car to nearly the carburetors, leaving the filter uncovered so I
> can see.  It is still happening.  Does anyone have any idea what is going
> on, and what I can do to stop it?  I used to have the fuel pump in the
> engine bay instead of near the tank.  I thought having the fuel line
> pressurized from the tank forward would decrease the likelihood of vapor
> lock.  I don't remember having trouble with vapor lock when the pump was in
> the engine bay.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> John O'Brien
>
> '61 bugeye
>
> '65 BJ8
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 13:15:08 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:15:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilofyd4RjEmGwz06ifgxCXN7TVhX_bn5qzqJrEq@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,
OK I'll do that right now and report back in a few ; )
Lin

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Remove the filter on the inlet side. That will fix the problem.
>
>        Peter C
> ==
>
> At 01:21 PM 5/15/2010, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
>> My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
>> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out
>> side
>> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
>> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I
>> removed
>> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank
>> to
>> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was
>> good
>> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive
>> way
>> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3
>> gallons
>> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
>> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out
>> (visible
>> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
>> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
>> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50.
>> or
>> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
>> driveway again.
>> Linda

From nases at verizon.net  Sat May 15 13:17:55 2010
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:17:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimuv5PA2FJqBhp6DzhOQphuj636lIe-_Vz3p1y0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimuv5PA2FJqBhp6DzhOQphuj636lIe-_Vz3p1y0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B726A4DC-0869-43C4-936F-A9A4F277D379@verizon.net>

It sounds like it's time for an Oshit. How bout it


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On May 15, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Well she fired up again so I took her for a spin runs better but  
> time to
> check other things I'm not sure it is the fuel pump because it flows  
> better
> now. I'll check to see if the plugs are fouled. She craps out at a  
> stop and
> if I park her she craps out. Time to open some books. I replaced a  
> bad leaky
> heater hose and checking all the other hoses too.
> Lin

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 15 13:23:24 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:23:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinU8SqrUMvah3IsQI8ptFa9E1OamXSYdN8AIrAd@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Peter...  I was just going to post that but ya beat me to it!
This is a common problem with the many motorcycles I see each year. People
go crazy over inline fuel filters apparently on the theory that if one is
good, two or more will be even better. T'aint so, McGee!!   Fuel filters do
restrict the flow somewhat. The system is designed for the screen in the
tank and a fuel filter ahead of the carbs where the idea is to keep grit out
of the small orifices of the carbs. Adding more fuel filters than the system
was designed for will only restrict the flow more than can be handled.
Additionally, I believe fuel pumps have two cycles?  A pull and a push
cycle?  Correct this if it is wrong, but I know that many motorcycle fuel
pumps are this way.  What Lin has done is restrict both cycles slowing
progress of fuel through the pump.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Remove the filter on the inlet side. That will fix the problem.
>
>        Peter C
> ==
>
> At 01:21 PM 5/15/2010, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
>> My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
>> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out
>> side
>> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
>> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I
>> removed
>> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank
>> to
>> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was
>> good
>> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive
>> way
>> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3
>> gallons
>> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
>> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out
>> (visible
>> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
>> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
>> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50.
>> or
>> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
>> driveway again.
>> Linda
>>
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Sat May 15 13:42:38 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:42:38 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
Message-ID: <db9f6.6dcb6ef6.3920532e@aol.com>

Peter suggested removing one of the two filters, the one on the inlet  side 
of the pump.
 
What if like me, you only have one filter. Is it best to place it on  the 
inlet or outlet side of the pump, and why?
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 13:44:51 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:44:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
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Bigger problem now. I wanted to just get the car into the driveway (I left
it on the street) before I removed the fuel filter on the inside port. The
battery seems dead barely a turnover although the fuel pump sounds great. so
I am getting electricity.  I tested the battery with my digital multi-meter
I have 12 volts at the battery which should be enough, right?. I used my
Saturn as a jump start and got nothing from the Sprite, nothing as though I
didn't hook up the jumper cables hardly turned over like a completely dead
battery. I don't get it. FYI When I fired her up the last few times this
last week and today the battery seemed weak and bearly turned the engine
over and then caught a spark to start. The battery is 4 years old I
disconnect when not using but I thought 12 volts from my multi meter was OK.
I'll look for my battery tester as I may have a dead cell. But what really
annoys me is the jump did nothing to the starting I thought it would turn
over at least. What else should I check or should I just get another
battery? I need to get the car into the driveway and not embarrass myself by
asking a neighbor to help me push it.
Please send suggestions ASAP....UGH!
Linda Disgusted in NJ


On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Peter,
> OK I'll do that right now and report back in a few ; )
> Lin
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>wrote:
>
>> Remove the filter on the inlet side. That will fix the problem.
>>
>>        Peter C
>> ==
>>
>> At 01:21 PM 5/15/2010, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>>
>>> My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one
>>> out.
>>> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out
>>> side
>>> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
>>> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I
>>> removed
>>> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank
>>> to
>>> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was
>>> good
>>> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive
>>> way
>>> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3
>>> gallons
>>> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back
>>> into
>>> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out
>>> (visible
>>> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
>>> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I
>>> don't
>>> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50.
>>> or
>>> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
>>> driveway again.
>>> Linda

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 15 13:58:45 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:58:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <db9f6.6dcb6ef6.3920532e@aol.com>
References: <db9f6.6dcb6ef6.3920532e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilGVldQCoUdRZ2-ey_1JWc0Tf7LqcWsqacDS0lJ@mail.gmail.com>

Howard,

I'd put it at the end of the steel fuel line in the engine bay just ahead of
the carbs. Easy to get to and does the same job.  The fuel pump will pass
most refuse (unless it is really big pieces). You want the fuel filter to
prevent bits and refuse in the fuel from getting into carburetor orifices.
One filter does this nicely but needs to be replaced periodically as it
collects sludge and restricts the fuel flow. Therefore, I put them where you
reach them easily to replace.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:42 PM, <Miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:

>  Peter suggested removing one of the two filters, the one on the inlet
> side of the pump.
>
> What if like me, you only have one filter. Is it best to place it on the
> inlet or outlet side of the pump, and why?
>
> Howard Collins
> Virginia Beach, VA.
>



--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 15 14:05:28 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:05:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9aYm6-Jm88keAo8fsOvZjja4sSwbxL12p1Dwk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
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Lin,

Perhaps a corroded connection?  Check them all - clean and re-attach. Don't
forget the ground strap under the car. Both battery cables. Solenoid
connections and test the solenoid too. They go bad. Also the connection at
the starter motor.  Don't suspect the battery until you've eliminated all
those connections and the solenoid.

Don't just thrash around...  plan a logical course of attack to the problem
and gradually eliminate everything ending with the most expensive parts of
the equation...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Linda Grunthaner
<grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Bigger problem now. I wanted to just get the car into the driveway (I left
> it on the street) before I removed the fuel filter on the inside port. The
> battery seems dead barely a turnover although the fuel pump sounds great.
> so
> I am getting electricity.  I tested the battery with my digital multi-meter
> I have 12 volts at the battery which should be enough, right?. I used my
> Saturn as a jump start and got nothing from the Sprite, nothing as though I
> didn't hook up the jumper cables hardly turned over like a completely dead
> battery. I don't get it. FYI When I fired her up the last few times this
> last week and today the battery seemed weak and bearly turned the engine
> over and then caught a spark to start. The battery is 4 years old I
> disconnect when not using but I thought 12 volts from my multi meter was
> OK.
> I'll look for my battery tester as I may have a dead cell. But what really
> annoys me is the jump did nothing to the starting I thought it would turn
> over at least. What else should I check or should I just get another
> battery? I need to get the car into the driveway and not embarrass myself
> by
> asking a neighbor to help me push it.
> Please send suggestions ASAP....UGH!
> Linda Disgusted in NJ
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> > OK I'll do that right now and report back in a few ; )
> > Lin
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Remove the filter on the inlet side. That will fix the problem.
> >>
> >>        Peter C
> >> ==
> >>
> >> At 01:21 PM 5/15/2010, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> >>
> >>> My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one
> >>> out.
> >>> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out
> >>> side
> >>> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2
> years
> >>> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I
> >>> removed
> >>> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the
> tank
> >>> to
> >>> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was
> >>> good
> >>> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the
> drive
> >>> way
> >>> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3
> >>> gallons
> >>> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back
> >>> into
> >>> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out
> >>> (visible
> >>> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
> >>> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I
> >>> don't
> >>> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around
> $50.
> >>> or
> >>> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
> >>> driveway again.
> >>> Linda
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Sat May 15 14:07:41 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:07:41 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
Message-ID: <dc9fe.5aa3f6fe.3920590d@aol.com>

That's how I have it set up on my Mini, so I'll be doing the same to the
Sprite. Rear mounted pump with filter just before the carbs. Thanks

Howard







In a message dated 5/15/2010 3:58:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:

Howard,

I'd put it at the end of the steel fuel line in the  engine bay just ahead
of the carbs. Easy to get to and does the same  job.  The fuel pump will
pass most refuse (unless it is really big  pieces). You want the fuel filter
to
prevent bits and refuse in the fuel from  getting into carburetor orifices.
One filter does this nicely but needs to be  replaced periodically as it
collects sludge and restricts the fuel flow.  Therefore, I put them where you
reach them easily to replace.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:42 PM, <_Miniac7 at aol.com_
(mailto:Miniac7 at aol.com) > wrote:


Peter suggested removing one of the two filters, the one on the  inlet side
of the pump.

What if like me, you only have one filter. Is it best to place it  on the
inlet or outlet side of the pump, and why?

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.






--
Cheers!!
Jim
bIn my many years I have come to a  conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or  more is a congress."
John Adams
US diplomat & politician (1735 -  1826)

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Sat May 15 14:12:32 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:12:32 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
Message-ID: <dcd6c.1eab7e73.39205a30@aol.com>

Before you run out for a new battery, check all the cable connections.  
Remove and clean both terminal posts as well as the cable ends, and make sure  
you get the cables back on good and tight. If that doesn't help, then  check 
the other end of the ground cable to make sure you have a good, clean,  
solid and tight ground connection.
 
Howard

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May 15 14:20:14 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:20:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
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Make sure you belt is tight.  ...bill in corvallis
=====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:45 PM
To: Peter Caldwell
Cc: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
pump please.

Bigger problem now. I wanted to just get the car into the driveway (I left
it on the street) before I removed the fuel filter on the inside port. The
battery seems dead barely a turnover although the fuel pump sounds great. so
I am getting electricity.  I tested the battery with my digital multi-meter
I have 12 volts at the battery which should be enough, right?. I used my
Saturn as a jump start and got nothing from the Sprite, nothing as though I
didn't hook up the jumper cables hardly turned over like a completely dead
battery. I don't get it. FYI When I fired her up the last few times this
last week and today the battery seemed weak and bearly turned the engine
over and then caught a spark to start. The battery is 4 years old I
disconnect when not using but I thought 12 volts from my multi meter was OK.
I'll look for my battery tester as I may have a dead cell. But what really
annoys me is the jump did nothing to the starting I thought it would turn
over at least. What else should I check or should I just get another
battery? I need to get the car into the driveway and not embarrass myself by
asking a neighbor to help me push it.
Please send suggestions ASAP....UGH!
Linda Disgusted in NJ

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 14:50:35 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:50:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <B363D0C5EBA2425F8FCA62AF87EAB51E@spider>
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I tried to jump start again but no go,,,,it barely turns over and I started
to smell something right around the cap/starter area and a tiny bit of
smoke.....I gave up and I started to push her into the driveway my new
neighbor came over and gave me a hand .......Yippi she is back in the
driveway now to figure this out. I will check the belt but wouldn't a strong
battery of 12 volts turn this over? Could it be the starter itself? How do I
test the starter? I am at a total loss so I need to test everything don't I?
Did I burn out the cap? Generator? What are the best steps to start with? I
have all of my books but need a little guidance.

Yes I do need an OHSHIT Day. But tomorrow I'll be out of town and next
weekend I'll be at a class trip and will miss Carlisle although I may drive
out at crack of dawn on Sunday. Perhaps the following weekend after Carlisle
for an OSHIT Day? Till then toss out some stuff i should be testing today.
Lin


On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:20 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Make sure you belt is tight.  ...bill in corvallis
> =====================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:45 PM
> To: Peter Caldwell
> Cc: Spridget list
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
> pump please.
>
> Bigger problem now. I wanted to just get the car into the driveway (I left
> it on the street) before I removed the fuel filter on the inside port. The
> battery seems dead barely a turnover although the fuel pump sounds great.
> so
> I am getting electricity.  I tested the battery with my digital multi-meter
> I have 12 volts at the battery which should be enough, right?. I used my
> Saturn as a jump start and got nothing from the Sprite, nothing as though I
> didn't hook up the jumper cables hardly turned over like a completely dead
> battery. I don't get it. FYI When I fired her up the last few times this
> last week and today the battery seemed weak and bearly turned the engine
> over and then caught a spark to start. The battery is 4 years old I
> disconnect when not using but I thought 12 volts from my multi meter was
> OK.
> I'll look for my battery tester as I may have a dead cell. But what really
> annoys me is the jump did nothing to the starting I thought it would turn
> over at least. What else should I check or should I just get another
> battery? I need to get the car into the driveway and not embarrass myself
> by
> asking a neighbor to help me push it.
> Please send suggestions ASAP....UGH!
> Linda Disgusted in NJ
> _______________________________________________
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 15:05:18 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:05:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pumpplease.
In-Reply-To: <16C8C7881AF04BE8AC9CE73F07A32666@personal>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<16C8C7881AF04BE8AC9CE73F07A32666@personal>
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I want to test my coil looking at this link below is this diagram the proper
way to test the ohms of my coil? If so what should the primary and the
secondary read be?
http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/618253/Re_Coil_101_for_dummies_again
Lin

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Jack Laird <jlaird237 at cox.net> wrote:

> I think this is  not a fuel pump problem but a supply problem as some
> others have said.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" <
> grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:21 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
> pumpplease.
>
>
>  My fuel pump sounds like it is on, I have 2 filters on it one in, one out.
>> You can see the in full filled in the filter on the in side and the out
>> side
>> filter trickles with fuel. This is the 2nd fuel pump I bought in 2 years
>> from Napa. This one is made in the USA the previous I'm not sure. I
>> removed
>> the fuel line and blew air with my compressor also blew air into the tank
>> to
>> clear the internal tank filter as suggested by Frank. I thought all was
>> good
>> left her running for a few minutes and then as I pulled out of the drive
>> way
>> she stopped sending fuel behaving like I was out of gas. BTW I put 3
>> gallons
>> in and it reads over a 1/2 tank. I got her fired up again to get back into
>> the driveway and you can hear the pump working but it trickles out
>> (visible
>> on the out side clear filter). I'm assuming it is a POS (piece of shit)
>> therefore off I go to buy another. What is the best pump to buy so I don't
>> go through this again they are not cheap even at Napa I think around $50.
>> or
>> $60. suggestions please I can't go another year with her sitting in the
>> driveway again.
>> Linda
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 15:19:17 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:19:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cute old Bugeye story from the List archives.
Message-ID: <AANLkTimr7DKSrINUmWbyWKAmZEmby8dhXsPWVmioBFZl@mail.gmail.com>

List, while searching for how to test my coil in the archives I stumbled
across a cute little story from 2002 from a gal named Patricia who has or
had a 59 Bugeye. It was a cute little story and thought I would post the
link to share. Now out to pull my battery and have it tested. Hopefully it
is just my battery.
Linda

http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/spridgets/2002-03/msg01107.html

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 15 15:26:49 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:26:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pumpplease.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimO9kWuzScqqrIN9I4q0wBdfyU2R8Q875HMsZLY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<16C8C7881AF04BE8AC9CE73F07A32666@personal>
	<AANLkTimO9kWuzScqqrIN9I4q0wBdfyU2R8Q875HMsZLY@mail.gmail.com>
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Primary is two small posts.
Secondary is middle (wire to dizzy) to case.
Easiest check is pull plug wire, insert screwdriver and let the shaft
of the screwdriver sit about 3/16" from block or head or valve cover
or something and turn motor over.  Look for spark.  Or, pull spark
plug, re- plug into wire, set metal plug base on head near spark plug
hole, turn motor over, look for spark.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 15 15:32:14 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:32:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pumpplease.
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References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
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This isn't a bad idea, either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJwY0heWa2A

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sat May 15 15:42:19 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:42:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for seat bolt spacing '68-'69 Sprite
Message-ID: <B7546460-946C-4188-930E-5AEC1C4182DF@gerardsgarage.com>

Can anyone provide me with an accurate measurement (center to center)  
of the hole spacing for the two seat rail bolt holes in the floorboard  
(front to back) of a '68 or '69 Spridget? Later cars of probably the  
same, but I'm not positive. I also need the distance from the frame  
crossmember to the first (front) hole. The left outside pair should be  
sufficient, as I believe they are all the same spacing.

Thanks

Gerard

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat May 15 18:34:36 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 20:34:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9aYm6-Jm88keAo8fsOvZjja4sSwbxL12p1Dwk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com><201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><AANLkTilofyd4RjEmGwz06ifgxCXN7TVhX_bn5qzqJrEq@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <B3E20F9A2BD44FF5AAD1F2BFE4EE20C7@blackbox2>

Linda, et al.

12 volts sounds good, but it really isn't.

Car Battery Resting Open Circuit Voltage vs. Capacity Remaining:
12.65V = 100%
12.45V = 75%
12.24V = 50%
12.06V = 25%
11.89V or less = Discharged

Print and cut out the above & tape it to the back of your multi-meter.

If your voltage is down below 11 volts even after charging it for a good
while, then it usually means that one or more cells have gone bad. This is
easy to confirm by pulling the vent caps and noting the cell(s) that do not
fizz while the battery is under the influence of the charger.
This is how I tell if it is time to get a new battery.

The good news is that Linda's battery is probably OK, outside of needing a
charge.

If batteries don't get used much then they go bad.  Driving your car
short distances and only on the weekends qualifies us for this failure mode.

A float charger is a worthwhile investment that can prevent this issue.   
I think Harbor Freight has them on sale now for $6.  I have one and it works
fine.

BTW, If you run only one fuel filter then place it before the fuel pump.
This will protect the pump from sucking up trash from the tank. This is
especially important if it a rotary type. 

If you want to add a second filter, then place it up by the carbs.

Speaking of filters, I like to use those little clear lawn mower filters.
I was in Lowes the other day and they wanted something like $12 for one.
For $19 I could get one in a John Deer package!

Walmart had them for $3.80.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel pump please.

Bigger problem now. I wanted to just get the car into the driveway (I left
it on the street) before I removed the fuel filter on the inside port. The
battery seems dead barely a turnover although the fuel pump sounds great. so
I am getting electricity.  I tested the battery with my digital multi-meter
I have 12 volts at the battery which should be enough, right?. I used my
Saturn as a jump start and got nothing from the Sprite, nothing as though I
didn't hook up the jumper cables hardly turned over like a completely dead
battery. I don't get it. FYI When I fired her up the last few times this
last week and today the battery seemed weak and bearly turned the engine
over and then caught a spark to start. The battery is 4 years old I
disconnect when not using but I thought 12 volts from my multi meter was OK.
I'll look for my battery tester as I may have a dead cell. But what really
annoys me is the jump did nothing to the starting I thought it would turn
over at least. What else should I check or should I just get another
battery? I need to get the car into the driveway and not embarrass myself by
asking a neighbor to help me push it.
Please send suggestions ASAP....UGH!
Linda Disgusted in NJ

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 15 19:06:15 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 21:06:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <B3E20F9A2BD44FF5AAD1F2BFE4EE20C7@blackbox2>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Hi Dean,
Nice chart yes I'll print it : )
I'm going to have my Interstate battery charged at the Interstate dealer and
have them put a load on it and then I'll know for sure if she is any good
and get a reduction in price off a new battery if this is bad with the trade
in.

I went to the local Pep Boys and there were many chargers so I would like to
know which is a good choice as per amp rating they have the 1.5 and the 6
amp I thought 6amp is more for the buck any thoughts?

I have a float reader but can't find it and was so bummed out with confusion
at Pep Boys I walked out without buying one today. I'll get one tomorrow. If
I buy a much needed charger and then charge the battery it still may be bad
right? Don't I need to put a load on it say with an industrial charger at
the interstate store?
Thoughts?
Lin

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Linda, et al.
>
> 12 volts sounds good, but it really isn't.
>
> Car Battery Resting Open Circuit Voltage vs. Capacity Remaining:
> 12.65V = 100%
> 12.45V = 75%
> 12.24V = 50%
> 12.06V = 25%
> 11.89V or less = Discharged
>
> Print and cut out the above & tape it to the back of your multi-meter.
>
> If your voltage is down below 11 volts even after charging it for a good
> while, then it usually means that one or more cells have gone bad. This is
> easy to confirm by pulling the vent caps and noting the cell(s) that do not
> fizz while the battery is under the influence of the charger.
> This is how I tell if it is time to get a new battery.
>
> The good news is that Linda's battery is probably OK, outside of needing a
> charge.
>
> If batteries don't get used much then they go bad.  Driving your car
> short distances and only on the weekends qualifies us for this failure
> mode.
>
> A float charger is a worthwhile investment that can prevent this issue.
> I think Harbor Freight has them on sale now for $6.  I have one and it
> works
> fine.
>
> BTW, If you run only one fuel filter then place it before the fuel pump.
> This will protect the pump from sucking up trash from the tank. This is
> especially important if it a rotary type.
>
> If you want to add a second filter, then place it up by the carbs.
>
> Speaking of filters, I like to use those little clear lawn mower filters.
> I was in Lowes the other day and they wanted something like $12 for one.
> For $19 I could get one in a John Deer package!
>
> Walmart had them for $3.80.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Subject: Re:
> [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel pump please.
>
> Bigger problem now. I wanted to just get the car into the driveway (I left
> it on the street) before I removed the fuel filter on the inside port. The
> battery seems dead barely a turnover although the fuel pump sounds great.
> so
> I am getting electricity.  I tested the battery with my digital multi-meter
> I have 12 volts at the battery which should be enough, right?. I used my
> Saturn as a jump start and got nothing from the Sprite, nothing as though I
> didn't hook up the jumper cables hardly turned over like a completely dead
> battery. I don't get it. FYI When I fired her up the last few times this
> last week and today the battery seemed weak and bearly turned the engine
> over and then caught a spark to start. The battery is 4 years old I
> disconnect when not using but I thought 12 volts from my multi meter was
> OK.
> I'll look for my battery tester as I may have a dead cell. But what really
> annoys me is the jump did nothing to the starting I thought it would turn
> over at least. What else should I check or should I just get another
> battery? I need to get the car into the driveway and not embarrass myself
> by
> asking a neighbor to help me push it.
> Please send suggestions ASAP....UGH!
> Linda Disgusted in NJ

From davriker at nwi.net  Sat May 15 20:04:50 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:04:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com><201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><AANLkTilofyd4RjEmGwz06ifgxCXN7TVhX_bn5qzqJrEq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9aYm6-Jm88keAo8fsOvZjja4sSwbxL12p1Dwk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3516CCC712384A7E9525AE6513FD64CD@MAIN>

I just got home and caught all your emails.  Tough day at the races...

As for fuel pump, why go aftermarket at all?  Order a brand new SU fuel 
pump.  The new ones are solid state and will last almost forever.  When you 
consider how frustrating it has been going through napa pumps, throw in the 
towel and order the real thing from Ed or Peter.  If they don't have them, 
SU pumps are listed on ebay.

As for the fuel filter, only one person has suggested putting it before the 
pump, everybody else suggested putting it after.  The way I see it, if you 
have the strainer intact in the tank, any bit large enough to damage the 
fuel pump would be caught in the tank strainer.  You want the filter as 
close to the carburetors as possible, to catch any sediment that may be in 
the fuel due to dirty fuel, fuel tank rusting, fuel pump wear, hose 
disintegration, and fuel line rusting.

As for the slow crank, look in the following order:
Loose or coroded connections
Weak or faulty battery
Starter Motor failure.

The symptoms sounded to me like starter motor failure.  Tell tale signs are 
that is had been cranking ok but requiring more and more current to perform, 
that is sounded like a weak battery, and finally that you had enough current 
to smell hot electrical, but still no cranking.

Good luck.
David Riker

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel 
pump please.


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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat May 15 20:10:28 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 22:10:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTina0XHuvFtemLBLL8zf4Hw_iVZmMJByTcLsdrXU@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005151201341.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<AANLkTilofyd4RjEmGwz06ifgxCXN7TVhX_bn5qzqJrEq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9aYm6-Jm88keAo8fsOvZjja4sSwbxL12p1Dwk@mail.gmail.com>
	<B3E20F9A2BD44FF5AAD1F2BFE4EE20C7@blackbox2>
	<AANLkTina0XHuvFtemLBLL8zf4Hw_iVZmMJByTcLsdrXU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E97B66CE6C6D4ED4B768664B9189DD28@blackbox2>

I have a charger that is 2 and 6 amp selectable.  I've never needed any more
than this.  

But I only resort to this if something bad has happened, like leaving the
lights on a car overnight

or maybe charging a lawn mower battery at the beginning of the season.

 

The little float charger from Harbor Freight I leave on the Sprite battery
pretty much all the time.

http://www.harborfreight.com/automatic-battery-float-charger-42292.html

 

In any case, I second Phil Nase's OSHIT recommendation.  I think he and I
are in range of you.

We just need to set a date & time that will work for everybody.

 

 

From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:06 PM
To: Dean Hedin
Cc: Peter Caldwell; Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
pump please.

 

Hi Dean,
Nice chart yes I'll print it : )
I'm going to have my Interstate battery charged at the Interstate dealer and
have them put a load on it and then I'll know for sure if she is any good
and get a reduction in price off a new battery if this is bad with the trade
in. 

I went to the local Pep Boys and there were many chargers so I would like to
know which is a good choice as per amp rating they have the 1.5 and the 6
amp I thought 6amp is more for the buck any thoughts? 

I have a float reader but can't find it and was so bummed out with confusion
at Pep Boys I walked out without buying one today. I'll get one tomorrow. If
I buy a much needed charger and then charge the battery it still may be bad
right? Don't I need to put a load on it say with an industrial charger at
the interstate store? 
Thoughts?
Lin

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 15 21:03:36 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 22:03:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTina0XHuvFtemLBLL8zf4Hw_iVZmMJByTcLsdrXU@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4BEF6088.9040607@justbrits.com>

<< I'll get one tomorrow. If I buy a much needed charger and then charge
the battery it still may be bad right? >>

Yep, and most likely IS.  You SAID it's FOUR [4] years old
and tho you didn't say it, you HAVE mis-used by it's 'usage'
[or NON-use] as Dean aptly put.  You can also purchase what
you will rarely use - batt. load test.  About $20 IIRC at
AutoZone.

<< Don't I need to put a load on it say with an industrial charger at the
interstate store? >>

You already said that AND you also said your going to the
store, RIGHT ?!?

As a note [Dean -:)]:
<< Walmart had them for $3.80. >>

BTDT, glass must be made in Far Remote China as just a hard
stare will break it -:( !!

And I also am with Dean on the tank/pump filter and I put 2nd
where is most convenient for ME when putting in nay car -:) !!
The one chap mentioned NOT between tank/pump = bunk.
Haven't had a prob with any one my cars or customers' cars
in.....never mind = a LONG time !!  LOL

Ed

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun May 16 02:46:02 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 04:46:02 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
Message-ID: <74ff.62a1941d.39210aca@aol.com>

Facet
 
In a message dated 15/05/2010 19:41:14 GMT Daylight Time,  
grunthaner at gmail.com writes:

What is  the best pump to buy 

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sun May 16 06:23:40 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 08:23:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <E97B66CE6C6D4ED4B768664B9189DD28@blackbox2>
References: <AANLkTim1CkUTzDZsD0OHmnmp0M1GeC3UYLVFUTbxkNXD@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <76647970-680E-4DF9-9548-6CF6661E9A89@gmail.com>

On May 15, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:
>
> The little float charger from Harbor Freight I leave on the Sprite  
> battery
> pretty much all the time.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/automatic-battery-float- 
> charger-42292.html
>
______________________________________________________________________

Here's a printable coupon for the charger (and a few other coupons).

Kevin V.

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/common/displayPage.do? 
pageFile=magurl4.html

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun May 16 13:39:42 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:39:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump HELL......suggestions for a "GOOD" fuel
 pump please.
In-Reply-To: <74ff.62a1941d.39210aca@aol.com>
References: <74ff.62a1941d.39210aca@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4BF049FE.5000208@justbrits.com>

<<  Facet

 In a message dated 15/05/2010 19:41:14 GMT Daylight Time,  
grunthaner at gmail.com writes:
What is  the best pump to buy   >>

Not IMNSHO, Daniel -:) !!!

<G> !

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May 16 14:52:20 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:52:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
Message-ID: <4BF05B04.6040706@comcast.net>

Today my Sprite started with a new problem.
I starts to miss, bad, at 4500 rpms.
I thought starving for fuel, floats check out perfect.
I pulled the choke out a little, then alot, still missing.
It misses at high revs right at the shifting point.
It sounds like a rev limiter rotor was installed.
No Peter I did not use that Lucas rev limit rotor you gave me ;)
I will try replacing the rotor and see what happens.
So far, plugs are perfect, carbs are working fine, not too rich, not too 
lean, new cap, points, condenser, and i think a new rotor.
Dizzy was just gone thru over the winter while the car was getting it's 
new paint.
I did adjust the valves and re-torque the head yesterday on the rebuilt 
engine.
I took my Dad out today for a drive and the miss showed up.
If anybody has an idea, let me know.
Carlisle trip next weekend, 3.5 hours on the PA turnpike probably in the 
rain.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun May 16 14:54:24 2010
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 20:54:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC OBD II tool
Message-ID: <868665094-1274043264-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1555419798-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Advance Auto has several code readers on sale (at least in NC) at 50% off.  A useful item on increasingly computerized cars.

Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 15:53:33 2010
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Original Toolbag Replica
Message-ID: <932173.5569.qm@web63503.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Listers - Does anyone know of anyone who makes concours-acceptable original
Bugeye toolbag replicas?  Doug    ....o~'o

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 16:00:25 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 15:00:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] looking for seat bolt spacing
	'68-'69 Sprite
In-Reply-To: <B7546460-946C-4188-930E-5AEC1C4182DF@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <46503.94343.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello Gerard,
I measured my 67 which I believe to be the same, it came to me with later
seats in it. I butted the tape up against the cross member and measured
9-7/16" to the center of the front holes, and I get 12-1/2" between hole
centers. Weld nuts under the floor pan for the rear holes, and just clearance
holes in the pan for the front holes.
John
Fogelsville, PA







 



  


    
      
      
      Can anyone provide me with an
accurate measurement (center to center)

of the hole spacing for the two seat rail bolt holes in the floorboard

(front to back) of a '68 or '69 Spridget? Later cars of probably the

same, but I'm not positive. I also need the distance from the frame

crossmember to the first (front) hole. The left outside pair should be

sufficient, as I believe they are all the same spacing.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun May 16 16:31:23 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 15:31:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <4BF05B04.6040706@comcast.net>
References: <4BF05B04.6040706@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8HZOSrGA_3Db01eWBCsWW552_O9BiYbFAQ5nt@mail.gmail.com>

Though new, I'd drop in a new(er) set of points.  Same problem I had with my
'56 Chev some years back.  Points cured the problem.
Herb

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Today my Sprite started with a new problem.
> I starts to miss, bad, at 4500 rpms.
> I thought starving for fuel, floats check out perfect.
> I pulled the choke out a little, then alot, still missing.
> It misses at high revs right at the shifting point.
> It sounds like a rev limiter rotor was installed.
> No Peter I did not use that Lucas rev limit rotor you gave me ;)
> I will try replacing the rotor and see what happens.
> So far, plugs are perfect, carbs are working fine, not too rich, not too
> lean, new cap, points, condenser, and i think a new rotor.
> Dizzy was just gone thru over the winter while the car was getting it's new
> paint.
> I did adjust the valves and re-torque the head yesterday on the rebuilt
> engine.
> I took my Dad out today for a drive and the miss showed up.
> If anybody has an idea, let me know.
> Carlisle trip next weekend, 3.5 hours on the PA turnpike probably in the
> rain.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun May 16 16:44:35 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:44:35 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
Message-ID: <2b2c9.36c80354.3921cf53@aol.com>

Coil nearing the end of it's life.  Rotor arm going bad - last Brown  rotor 
arm I had did very low mileage and I've since switched to Mini Spares  
Blue. With a 23/25D4 distributor you probably need one of these red  rotors.

Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 16/05/2010 22:31:21 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

Today my  Sprite started with a new problem.
I starts to miss, bad, at 4500  rpms.
I thought starving for fuel, floats check out perfect.
I pulled  the choke out a little, then alot, still missing.
It misses at high revs  right at the shifting point.
It sounds like a rev limiter rotor was  installed.
No Peter I did not use that Lucas rev limit rotor you gave me  ;)
I will try replacing the rotor and see what happens.
So far, plugs  are perfect, carbs are working fine, not too rich, not too 
lean, new cap,  points, condenser, and i think a new rotor.
Dizzy was just gone thru over  the winter while the car was getting it's 
new paint.
I did adjust the  valves and re-torque the head yesterday on the rebuilt 
engine.
I took  my Dad out today for a drive and the miss showed up.
If anybody has an  idea, let me know.
Carlisle trip next weekend, 3.5 hours on the PA turnpike  probably in the 
rain.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of  Sprites
_______________________________________________

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of rotors 3.jpg]

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun May 16 16:49:35 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 15:49:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <4BF05B04.6040706@comcast.net>
References: <4BF05B04.6040706@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A2EEF384D83D431391C04659E661CFD5@spider>

Did this problem crop up right after you changed out the tune-up parts?
...bill in corvallis
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:52 PM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem

Today my Sprite started with a new problem.
I starts to miss, bad, at 4500 rpms.
I thought starving for fuel, floats check out perfect.
I pulled the choke out a little, then alot, still missing.
It misses at high revs right at the shifting point.
It sounds like a rev limiter rotor was installed.
No Peter I did not use that Lucas rev limit rotor you gave me ;)
I will try replacing the rotor and see what happens.
So far, plugs are perfect, carbs are working fine, not too rich, not too 
lean, new cap, points, condenser, and i think a new rotor.
Dizzy was just gone thru over the winter while the car was getting it's 
new paint.
I did adjust the valves and re-torque the head yesterday on the rebuilt 
engine.
I took my Dad out today for a drive and the miss showed up.
If anybody has an idea, let me know.
Carlisle trip next weekend, 3.5 hours on the PA turnpike probably in the 
rain.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites
_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 17:07:19 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:07:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <4BF05B04.6040706@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <693934.20159.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Frank,
I know you hate timing lights, but check to see if it's over advanced.
That's abut the RPM where the advance curves flatten out.

Ron

--- On Sun,
5/16/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Frank Clarici
<spritenut at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
> To: "spridget"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 3:52 PM
> Today my
Sprite started with a new
> problem.
> I starts to miss, bad, at 4500 rpms.
>
I thought starving for fuel, floats check out perfect.
> I pulled the choke
out a little, then alot, still missing.
> It misses at high revs right at the
shifting point.
> It sounds like a rev limiter rotor was installed.
> No Peter
I did not use that Lucas rev limit rotor you gave
> me ;)
> I will try
replacing the rotor and see what happens.
> So far, plugs are perfect, carbs
are working fine, not too
> rich, not too lean, new cap, points, condenser,
and i think
> a new rotor.
> Dizzy was just gone thru over the winter while
the car was
> getting it's new paint.
> I did adjust the valves and re-torque
the head yesterday on
> the rebuilt engine.
> I took my Dad out today for a
drive and the miss showed
> up.
> If anybody has an idea, let me know.
>
Carlisle trip next weekend, 3.5 hours on the PA turnpike
> probably in the
rain.
> -- Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun May 16 17:15:24 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:15:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim8HZOSrGA_3Db01eWBCsWW552_O9BiYbFAQ5nt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF05B04.6040706@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTim8HZOSrGA_3Db01eWBCsWW552_O9BiYbFAQ5nt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B0C96B6328474A01A56C8208A7F5A102@spider>

I had a bad new condenser once. It would resonate at a certain higher rpm
and break up the plug firing. Took me a while to find it as you don't think
to blame a new part. ...bill in corvallis
=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 3:31 PM
To: Frank Clarici
Cc: spridget
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New problem

Though new, I'd drop in a new(er) set of points.  Same problem I had with my
'56 Chev some years back.  Points cured the problem.
Herb

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Today my Sprite started with a new problem.
> I starts to miss, bad, at 4500 rpms.
> I thought starving for fuel, floats check out perfect.
> I pulled the choke out a little, then alot, still missing.
> It misses at high revs right at the shifting point.
> It sounds like a rev limiter rotor was installed.
> No Peter I did not use that Lucas rev limit rotor you gave me ;)
> I will try replacing the rotor and see what happens.
> So far, plugs are perfect, carbs are working fine, not too rich, not too
> lean, new cap, points, condenser, and i think a new rotor.
> Dizzy was just gone thru over the winter while the car was getting it's
new
> paint.
> I did adjust the valves and re-torque the head yesterday on the rebuilt
> engine.
> I took my Dad out today for a drive and the miss showed up.
> If anybody has an idea, let me know.
> Carlisle trip next weekend, 3.5 hours on the PA turnpike probably in the
> rain.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
_______________________________________________

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Mon May 17 15:18:09 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:18:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Middget parts car in Richmond, VA area
Message-ID: <SNT124-W391AED202995096DE573F2B7E00@phx.gbl>

NFI, and too far away for me to get, but this is probably worth the price just
for the wire wheels:



http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/1743376943.html

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon May 17 16:28:20 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:28:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Middget parts car in Richmond, VA area
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W391AED202995096DE573F2B7E00@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W391AED202995096DE573F2B7E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrcujtnUjkCjfhE2JLBpNXkuoHxWgajhPXGgHO@mail.gmail.com>

Some top quality rust available cheap, eh? I love the floor of the boot!
Also,  where the heck did that tranny come from in the engine bay?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:

> NFI, and too far away for me to get, but this is probably worth the price
> just
> for the wire wheels:
>
>
>
> http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/1743376943.html
>
> _

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon May 17 16:29:15 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:29:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
Message-ID: <861798.27631.qm@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

-Weak spring in the points?
-The distributor plate the points mount to shorting something when it advances?
-That tiny little wire cracked or rubbing something when the distributor advances?
-Condenser gone funny?

Ed in NC (Haven't posted in a while.  This seemed like a good time. ;-) )

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon May 17 16:30:55 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:30:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Middget parts car in Richmond, VA area
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W391AED202995096DE573F2B7E00@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W391AED202995096DE573F2B7E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4BF1C39F.4080208@justbrits.com>

<<

NFI, and too far away for me to get, 

 >>

That would be a STEAL for anybody that could part it
out, Mike !!

Frank could make it a runner in a week !!!  LOL !!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
..For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon May 17 19:19:13 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:19:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <861798.27631.qm@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <861798.27631.qm@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BF1EB11.6010301@comcast.net>

So I replaced the rotor and no more miss.
But on the test drive and wide open throttle naturally, one of the 
linkage ears popped out and got stuck holding the throttle open about 
1/2 way.
Watch out Toyotas, I can't stop either!!!
So I used the light of my cell phone to see what happened, I popped it 
back in but it popped out again on the return home trip.
So I fixed it right this time once back in the garage.
under WOT, I put it in neutral but it was reving too high.
So at the stop signs and red light I just switched it off but it let out 
a loud backfire each time.
The kids at the Wawa thought it was cool, I didn't.
So do rotors turn into rev limiting rotors in time?
What is in there that could break down? It was not worn, it has about 
500 miles on it
But now I am wondering if maybe the linkage got stuck at that one 
certain spot and caused the carb to flood out. When the linkage jammed, 
it was missing and reving But it never jammed yesterday or it popped 
back in by itself.

All fixed, now to disassemble the turn signal switch to fix my 
intermittent right signals.......


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon May 17 20:04:00 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:04:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <4BF1EB11.6010301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <91288.27901.qm@web180201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Frank Clarici...
> So do rotors turn into rev limiting rotors in time?
> What is in there that could break down? It was not worn, it
> has about 500 miles on it

Maybe if the metal parts are a tad loose and shift position in the bakelite/plastic?
  Ed in NC

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon May 17 20:07:25 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:07:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <4BF1EB11.6010301@comcast.net>
References: <861798.27631.qm@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4BF1EB11.6010301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <197529950.20100517190725@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     I'm at the point that I'll only use the "red" rotors from Jeff at
     Advance Distributors, as well as his brass contact rotor caps. I
     got tired of guessing if my parts were good, even though new. I'd


     YMMV

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Bad command or filename. Go stand in the corner. 

From biffjones at verizon.net  Mon May 17 20:16:14 2010
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:16:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Lunch Meet?
Message-ID: <9FF3ECB102104B2BA8FBA512B178177F@dell1>

With the Carlisle Sports & Kit Car Show starting this Friday and with no
mention to date of spridget owners getting together there for lunch, I'll take
it on myself to say If you are interested in getting together with other
spridget owners for lunch on Saturday at noon let's meet at the first steps of
the grandstand by the give away cars.

Biff

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon May 17 20:36:16 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] !/2 eleptical rear part ?
Message-ID: <724867067.20100517193616@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  When I was changing my rear springs this weekend, I found a piece of
  curved metal that was between the top of the axle housing and the
  top of the U-bolts. My pieces were worn almost all the way thru so I
  should replace them, I'm sure, but I don't see them listed from the
  usual suspects. Anybody know what they're called and where to obtain
  them? 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
   A TV can insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon May 17 20:49:38 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:49:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
Message-ID: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>

Looks like rain for the 21st out of my 22 years going there.

Friday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with 
a low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Saturday: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a 
high near 77. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Saturday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, 
with a low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon May 17 21:54:07 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:54:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>
References: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8EA9F747E4324CE4918CEADFB56DA533@blackbox2>

Oh come on.  It's only a 30 percenter.

In Pennsy talk that means Sunny with a few clouds...practically gorgeous.

The forecaster's are only covering their buts in case it actually 
rains, as even they can't believe a 21 out 22 year record of rain on this
date.

I'm plannning on just the Saturday.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:50 PM
To: Kevin Valentine; spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast

Looks like rain for the 21st out of my 22 years going there.

Friday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with 
a low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Saturday: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a 
high near 77. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Saturday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, 
with a low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 23:28:38 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:28:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <598864.92003.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Can we get the scooter here via handoff? Mother in law's stroke has me
commuting to Florida while trying to start the new job. I ain't getting to
Jersey soon!

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
wrote:

> From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets]
Carlisle forecast
> To: "Kevin Valentine" <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>, "spridget"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 9:49 PM
> Looks like
rain for the 21st out of
> my 22 years going there.
> 
> Friday Night: A
chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly
> cloudy, with a low around 56.
Chance of precipitation is
> 30%.
> 
> Saturday: A chance of showers and
thunderstorms. Mostly
> cloudy, with a high near 77. Chance of precipitation
is
> 30%.
> 
> Saturday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms.
> Mostly
cloudy, with a low around 56. Chance of precipitation
> is 40%.
> -- Frank
Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 18 00:18:57 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 01:18:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
In-Reply-To: <197529950.20100517190725@pacifier.com>
References: <861798.27631.qm@web180208.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4BF1EB11.6010301@comcast.net> <197529950.20100517190725@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbfFieGmJ1Rwfcd3GbVnFfl2TEchRvJ2bBB1fQ@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,

Turn that rotor over.  Are there Chinese characters on the bottom?

You know who....

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Frank,
>
>     I'm at the point that I'll only use the "red" rotors from Jeff at
>     Advance Distributors, as well as his brass contact rotor caps. I
>     got tired of guessing if my parts were good, even though new. I'd
>
>
>     YMMV
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>   Bad command or filename. Go stand in the corner.
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 18 00:41:04 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 01:41:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <8EA9F747E4324CE4918CEADFB56DA533@blackbox2>
References: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>
	<8EA9F747E4324CE4918CEADFB56DA533@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin_Jf1DZY2qXxBHbXM66UR24F5iKm7yEAX3mfoK@mail.gmail.com>

Not quite, Dean...  Take it from a 41 year forecaster (now retired). A
percentile forecast not only encompasses the probability of rain at a given
location during the entire 12 hour forecast period, but also the percent
*coverage* of rainshowers at any given time within that area. That is to
say, the forecast means a 30 to 40% chance of rain falling somewhere in the
forecast area at any given time.

To be more succinct, the 100% rain falling on Frank throughout his journey
to Carlisle will be 30-40% of the entire area. So to Frank it will seem like
100% rain because the clouds will be following him where ever he goes!  Just
stay away from Frank and you will remain relatively dry!

Trust me. We had a 10% chance for rain at Lake of the Ozarks. That 10%
followed Frank there and we got it all during the car show!!

There are good reasons why we call Frank "Rain Man".  Part of the reason is
due to the weather!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Oh come on.  It's only a 30 percenter.
>
> In Pennsy talk that means Sunny with a few clouds...practically gorgeous.
>
> The forecaster's are only covering their buts in case it actually
> rains, as even they can't believe a 21 out 22 year record of rain on this
> date.
>
> I'm plannning on just the Saturday.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:50 PM
> To: Kevin Valentine; spridget
> Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
>
> Looks like rain for the 21st out of my 22 years going there.
>
> Friday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with
> a low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
>
> Saturday: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a
> high near 77. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
>
> Saturday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy,
> with a low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue May 18 04:46:46 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 06:46:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>
References: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <71F4089894DA40D8BB3C0B0683718D51@OwnerPC>

Frank,
It's CARLISLE, brother.....what did you really expect?
See you there!
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Kevin Valentine" <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>; "spridget" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:49 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast


> Looks like rain for the 21st out of my 22 years going there.
>
> Friday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a 
> low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
>
> Saturday: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a 
> high near 77. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
>
> Saturday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with 
> a low around 56. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 05:53:20 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 04:53:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_Jf1DZY2qXxBHbXM66UR24F5iKm7yEAX3mfoK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <886094.2363.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Not to question the weather pooba, but the local weather hag told me it meant
that the given or predicted atmospheric conditions, the conditions have
historically yielded measurable rain 30% of the time those conditions have
occurred. 

Incorrect?

Ron

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Jim Johnson
<bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
> To: 
> Cc: "spridget"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 1:41 AM
> Not quite,
Dean...  Take it from
> a 41 year forecaster (now retired). A
> percentile
forecast not only encompasses the probability of
> rain at a given
> location
during the entire 12 hour forecast period, but
> also the percent
> *coverage*
of rainshowers at any given time within that
> area. That is to
> say, the
forecast means a 30 to 40% chance of rain falling
> somewhere in the
>
forecast area at any given time.
> 
> To be more succinct, the 100% rain
falling on Frank
> throughout his journey
> to Carlisle will be 30-40% of the
entire area. So to Frank
> it will seem like
> 100% rain because the clouds
will be following him where
> ever he goes!  Just
> stay away from Frank and
you will remain relatively dry!
> 
> Trust me. We had a 10% chance for rain at
Lake of the
> Ozarks. That 10%
> followed Frank there and we got it all during
the car
> show!!
> 
> There are good reasons why we call Frank "Rain Man". 
>
Part of the reason is
> due to the weather!   ;-)
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On
Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>
> Oh come on.  It's only a 30 percenter.
> >
> > In Pennsy talk that means
Sunny with a few
> clouds...practically gorgeous.
> >
> > The forecaster's are
only covering their buts in case
> it actually
> > rains, as even they can't
believe a 21 out 22 year
> record of rain on this
> > date.
> >
> > I'm
plannning on just the Saturday.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:50 PM
> > To:
Kevin Valentine; spridget
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
> >
> >
Looks like rain for the 21st out of my 22 years going
> there.
> >
> > Friday
Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms.
> Mostly cloudy, with
> > a low
around 56. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
> >
> > Saturday: A chance of
showers and thunderstorms.
> Mostly cloudy, with a
> > high near 77. Chance of
precipitation is 30%.
> >
> > Saturday Night: A chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
> Mostly cloudy,
> > with a low around 56. Chance of
precipitation is 40%.
> > --
> > Frank Clarici
> > Toms River, NJ
> > Lots of
Sprites
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 18 05:58:18 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:58:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] !/2 eleptical rear part ?
In-Reply-To: <724867067.20100517193616@pacifier.com>
References: <724867067.20100517193616@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4BF280DA.7080401@comcast.net>

On 5/17/2010 10:36 PM, Bill L wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>    When I was changing my rear springs this weekend, I found a piece of
>    curved metal that was between the top of the axle housing and the
>    top of the U-bolts. My pieces were worn almost all the way thru so I
>    should replace them, I'm sure, but I don't see them listed from the
>    usual suspects. Anybody know what they're called and where to obtain
>    them?
>

Alignment shims, to align the U bolts.
I might have a pair in decent used condition you can have.
I'll dig in the suspension box after work and let you know.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From pilotrob at msn.com  Tue May 18 05:58:48 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:58:48 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Strictly off topic but cool anyway!! :)
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds193F66E0A2DFB56D3422FDD4E10@phx.gbl>

...the last one.

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: R
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:23 AM
Subject: STS-132 Launch pictures

thought you might like these...  sent by a Navy colleague who works at
NASA...


Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 11:20 AM

 STS-132, Orbiter Atlantiso?= final mission.

 *Subject:*  STS-132 Launch pictures

Launch pics from a friendo?=o?=

http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff109/abfrench/STS-132%20Atlantis/?albumvi
ew=slideshow

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 06:36:35 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_Jf1DZY2qXxBHbXM66UR24F5iKm7yEAX3mfoK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <206617.36375.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the explanation Jim, I should be in good shape for the trip. Frank
takes the PA Turnpike, so I should be dry on the northern route.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

To be more succinct, the 100% rain falling on Frank throughout his journey
to Carlisle will be 30-40% of the entire area. So to Frank it will seem like
100% rain because the clouds will be following him where ever he goes!  Just
stay away from Frank and you will remain relatively dry!

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 06:39:32 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 05:39:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Carlisle Lunch Meet?
In-Reply-To: <9FF3ECB102104B2BA8FBA512B178177F@dell1>
Message-ID: <358960.77800.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sounds good to me Biff!  Saturday, grandstands at noon.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:
With the Carlisle Sports & Kit Car Show starting this Friday and with no
mention to date of spridget owners getting together there for lunch, I'll take
it on myself to say If you are interested in getting together with other
spridget owners for lunch on Saturday at noon let's meet at the first steps of
the grandstand by the give away

 

 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue May 18 06:44:12 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 05:44:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] !/2 eleptical rear part ?
In-Reply-To: <4BF280DA.7080401@comcast.net>
References: <724867067.20100517193616@pacifier.com>
	<4BF280DA.7080401@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <595753410.20100518054412@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     If they're only needed for alignment, then mine were good enough.
     I thought maybe they had a mechanical function, acting as a
     bearing surface perhaps. I installed them and there WAS enough
     left to get the spacing at the top of the axle housing correct.

     THANX

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  The cost of feathers has risen.  Now even down is up!

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue May 18 07:32:40 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:32:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_Jf1DZY2qXxBHbXM66UR24F5iKm7yEAX3mfoK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF20042.1030407@comcast.net>
	<8EA9F747E4324CE4918CEADFB56DA533@blackbox2>
	<AANLkTin_Jf1DZY2qXxBHbXM66UR24F5iKm7yEAX3mfoK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A9CB95294441489CB072CCEB44797A84@Home>

> There are good reasons why we call Frank "Rain Man".  Part of the reason 
> is
> due to the weather!   ;-)

Another is because he can recite the size and length of every bolt on every 
model of Spridget ever made.

Michael Rowe 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 18 09:18:01 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:18:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was Carlisle - now chance for rain...
Message-ID: <AANLkTinS7QzkBYNvcHuNJippLyOwMijHh5WACKYSV_cC@mail.gmail.com>

Ron, et al...  On reading further at the link I provided to "about.com"  I
see they have it wrong as well....

Here is the correct interpretation straight from your National Weather
Service, the horse's mouth....

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ffc/?n=pop

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Tue May 18 09:18:49 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:18:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers
Message-ID: <53C06971D0E0481BAF99170E427FE788@MAINCOMPUTER>

It would be nice if you have vendor spaces at Carlisle to post them here so we
can put names on the list  with faces Whadya think??

J


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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue May 18 10:55:40 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:55:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] New problem
Message-ID: <78190.68adee17.3924208c@aol.com>

So I was right??
 
I like to get 7000 miles out of rotor arms and the last one I bought was  
the Brown Bosch (45 series distributor with a unique curve and Aldon  
Ignitor).  Turned out for the extra money and reputation I had less than  2000 
miles out of it.  There was nothing to indicate why it failed and I  checked it 
very closely.  
 
So red or blue rotor arms are ok and black and brown aren't?
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 18/05/2010 02:56:47 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

So do  rotors turn into rev limiting rotors in time?
What is in there that could  break down? It was not worn, it has about 
500 miles on  it

From frogeye at cox.net  Tue May 18 10:56:54 2010
From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:56:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers
Message-ID: <DE8D6C83136947F99C2839270A09072D@maind>

I will be vending at C42 and C43 starting Thursday midday.
I have made arrangements to meet several listers there
Please feel free to stop by say hello, enjoy a cover from rain/sun whatever,
maybe a cold soda
Leo Speichinger flew up from Houston to help me with my STUFF
If anyone is looking for anything special or spares contact me off list if I
can fit it in my truck, I'll be glad to help

Alan

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue May 18 10:57:05 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:57:05 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] !/2 eleptical rear part ?
Message-ID: <783ec.73ba8137.392420e1@aol.com>

Nope, and my car either has worn/rusty ones like yours or none at  all.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 18/05/2010 04:25:16 GMT Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

Hello  Spridgets,

When I was changing my rear springs this weekend, I  found a piece of
curved metal that was between the top of the axle  housing and the
top of the U-bolts. My pieces were worn almost all  the way thru so I
should replace them, I'm sure, but I don't see  them listed from the
usual suspects. Anybody know what they're  called and where to obtain
them? 

-- 
Best  regards,
Bill L.                 

From pilotrob at msn.com  Tue May 18 12:00:36 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:00:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>

http://listadoweb.com/home.php

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue May 18 12:48:01 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:48:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Bob,

Uh.....Thanks for the link. Somehow I wonder whether you really meant to inform the list you have a problem with "erectile dysfunction".
 jay




________________________________
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To: ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com; usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:00:36 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)

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From pilotrob at msn.com  Tue May 18 12:55:29 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:55:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>,
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>

LOL....



...fortunately, the least of my problems, thank God!!



Hacker from Spridget or Bugeye list...most likely Larry Daniels or Hal
Faulkner. These are the only two who go out of the way to give me a hard
time.



CB







Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:48:01 -0700
From: jfishbein at snet.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
To: pilotrob at msn.com; ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com;
spridgets at autox.team.net; oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com;
usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net




Bob,

Uh.....Thanks for the link. Somehow I wonder whether you really meant to
inform the list you have a problem with "erectile dysfunction".
 jay






From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com>
To: ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com; usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:00:36 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)

http://listadoweb.com/home.php
_______________________________

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Tue May 18 13:08:43 2010
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:08:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimSVk_hAnGoivozO2O5loYksZ3e6-urEA22isO8@mail.gmail.com>

Forwarded Viagra spam.

Thanks, but I'm OK.


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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Tue May 18 14:01:28 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:01:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG TF 135 in Bennington, VT, May 29
Message-ID: <SNT124-W6162087D1FD88D1307F8AFB7E10@phx.gbl>

On Saturday, May 29, at 9:30 am, there is an informal get-together at Hemmings
Motor News in Bennington, Vt, with British MG owner Roger Pratten, who is
touring the U.S. & Canada in his 2003 MG TF 135.

I'm planning to attend with my '54 TF, and I'd love to see a good turnout from
MG owners.  If anyone lives in the area or may happen to be in the area that
weekend, it's a chance to get a good look at modern MG and chat with a fellow
enthusiast from across the pond.

If anyone needs directions or other information, let me know.



http://www.mgexperience.net/calendar.php#528



-Mike Eldred

'54 MG TF

'73 Midget

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 18 14:10:23 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:10:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <886094.2363.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <886094.2363.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BF2F42F.30804@comcast.net>

On 5/18/2010 7:53 AM, Ron Soave wrote:
> Not to question the weather pooba, but the local weather hag told me it meant
> that the given or predicted atmospheric conditions, the conditions have
> historically yielded measurable rain 30% of the time those conditions have
> occurred.

Yesterday's forecast (from the radio) was for a 30% chance of rain.
Well it has rained since the wee hours of the morning, it's still 
raining, probably over an inch of rain so far today.
So that means I can expect at least an inch of rain at Carlisle.
I guess 100% means 4" of rain in a day.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 18 14:17:47 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:17:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Carlisle Lunch Meet?
In-Reply-To: <358960.77800.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <358960.77800.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BF2F5EB.5060905@comcast.net>

On 5/18/2010 8:39 AM, fastvee wrote:
> Sounds good to me Biff!  Saturday, grandstands at noon.

I'll be there too.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 14:18:32 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:18:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>,
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6024E9CCB7C04AE6BC981FEB9E07279E@HomePC>

Hey, Boob, keep me out of your medical problems.  I don't give a damn 
whether you have a problem or not.

Unless you have some kind of proof that I was involved, you ought to keep 
that stupid mouth of yours shut.

And keep your spam and politics to yourself.


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:55 PM
To: <jfishbein at snet.net>; "Ron" <ron.socal at gmail.com>; "Ronn Placzek" 
<ronnwp at hotmail.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Steve Emling" 
<oldtar52 at yahoo.com>; "Tom Telesco" <telriv at yahoo.com>; <usbphp at yahoo.com>; 
"Wayne" <wayne230 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)

LOL....



...fortunately, the least of my problems, thank God!!



Hacker from Spridget or Bugeye list...most likely Larry Daniels or Hal
Faulkner. These are the only two who go out of the way to give me a hard
time.



CB







Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:48:01 -0700
From: jfishbein at snet.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
To: pilotrob at msn.com; ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com;
spridgets at autox.team.net; oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com;
usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net




Bob,

Uh.....Thanks for the link. Somehow I wonder whether you really meant to
inform the list you have a problem with "erectile dysfunction".
 jay






From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com>
To: ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com; usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:00:36 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 18 14:35:32 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:35:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle forecast
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimM0FzsZ5hGzbkFPV3eUsQIVxLvf0wHp4NelusR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <886094.2363.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BF2F42F.30804@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTimM0FzsZ5hGzbkFPV3eUsQIVxLvf0wHp4NelusR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYQpUyUpgWObf9hdpqgIh1MdxuSNDmnW9lAuVD@mail.gmail.com>

Nah.  30% of the forecast area got rain just like they said. You were just
in the unlucky 30%!!  70% of the folks around you are complaining because
they wanted rain and didn't get it. Just goes to show you Lincoln was right.
You can't please anybody anymore!    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> On 5/18/2010 7:53 AM, Ron Soave wrote:
>
>> Not to question the weather pooba, but the local weather hag told me it
>> meant
>> that the given or predicted atmospheric conditions, the conditions have
>> historically yielded measurable rain 30% of the time those conditions have
>> occurred.
>>
>
> Yesterday's forecast (from the radio) was for a 30% chance of rain.
> Well it has rained since the wee hours of the morning, it's still raining,
> probably over an inch of rain so far today.
> So that means I can expect at least an inch of rain at Carlisle.
> I guess 100% means 4" of rain in a day.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
>



--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)





--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 18 14:43:12 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:43:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>

When speaking of *male enhancement* you said, "who go out of the way to give
me a *hard* time....."

Nevermind.  I don't want to know the sordid details....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:

> LOL....
>
>
>
> ...fortunately, the least of my problems, thank God!!
>
>
>
> Hacker from Spridget or Bugeye list...most likely Larry Daniels or Hal
> Faulkner. These are the only two who go out of the way to give me a hard
> time.
>
>
>
> CB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:48:01 -0700
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
> To: pilotrob at msn.com; ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com;
> spridgets at autox.team.net; oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com;
> usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net
>
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Uh.....Thanks for the link. Somehow I wonder whether you really meant to
> inform the list you have a problem with "erectile dysfunction".
>  jay
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com>
> To: ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
> oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com; usbphp at yahoo.com;
> wayne230 at comcast.net
> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:00:36 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> http://listadoweb.com/home.php
> _______________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue May 18 16:09:39 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:09:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>

He sent it to me too, and I GUARANTEE that I am both completely innocent 
and not in need of male enhancement. That is, of course, unless someone 
happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars, 
dogs, cats, and fishing.

Kate


Jim Johnson wrote:
> When speaking of *male enhancement* you said, "who go out of the way to give
> me a *hard* time....."
>
> Nevermind.  I don't want to know the sordid details....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> LOL....
>>
>>
>>
>> ...fortunately, the least of my problems, thank God!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Hacker from Spridget or Bugeye list...most likely Larry Daniels or Hal
>> Faulkner. These are the only two who go out of the way to give me a hard
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> CB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:48:01 -0700
>> From: jfishbein at snet.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>> To: pilotrob at msn.com; ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com;
>> spridgets at autox.team.net; oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com;
>> usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Uh.....Thanks for the link. Somehow I wonder whether you really meant to
>> inform the list you have a problem with "erectile dysfunction".
>>  jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com>
>> To: ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
>> oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com; usbphp at yahoo.com;
>> wayne230 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:00:36 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>>
>> http://listadoweb.com/home.php
>> _______________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
> shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
>        John Adams
>        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
> _______________________________________________
>
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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue May 18 16:36:07 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:36:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers
In-Reply-To: <DE8D6C83136947F99C2839270A09072D@maind>
References: <DE8D6C83136947F99C2839270A09072D@maind>
Message-ID: <876C43A53458419A8F5BDFBFA33A1FAA@OwnerPC>

I'll be hanging out with the Western PA Triumph Assn. in vendor spaces C-66, 
67 & 68.  Look for me among the beer slurping old guys sitting around at the 
rear of the spaces.  Just ask for Bud.  They'll all know you must mean me, 
because none of our guys will touch Budweiser, or any other "kid beer".
Now, if we can all remember to write down all the vendor space numbers to 
check..........
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "frogeye" <frogeye at cox.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:56 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers


>I will be vending at C42 and C43 starting Thursday midday.
> I have made arrangements to meet several listers there
> Please feel free to stop by say hello, enjoy a cover from rain/sun 
> whatever,
> maybe a cold soda
> Leo Speichinger flew up from Houston to help me with my STUFF
> If anyone is looking for anything special or spares contact me off list if 
> I
> can fit it in my truck, I'll be glad to help
>
> Alan

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 17:08:51 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:08:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl><871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78D28024640C44289DAF7D6986121FED@HomePC>

He also called it "the least of my problems", thereby admitting it's one of 
his problems, but that he has even bigger problems.  Somehow, the "bigger" 
is not surprising.


ANON



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:43 PM
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at msn.com>
Cc: "Ronn Placzek" <ronnwp at hotmail.com>; "Wayne" <wayne230 at comcast.net>; 
"Ron" <ron.socal at gmail.com>; <usbphp at yahoo.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>; 
"Steve Emling" <oldtar52 at yahoo.com>; "Tom Telesco" <telriv at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)

When speaking of *male enhancement* you said, "who go out of the way to give
me a *hard* time....."

Nevermind.  I don't want to know the sordid details....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:

> LOL....
>
>
>
> ...fortunately, the least of my problems, thank God!!
>
>
>
> Hacker from Spridget or Bugeye list...most likely Larry Daniels or Hal
> Faulkner. These are the only two who go out of the way to give me a hard
> time.
>
>
>
> CB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:48:01 -0700
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
> To: pilotrob at msn.com; ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com;
> spridgets at autox.team.net; oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com;
> usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net
>
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Uh.....Thanks for the link. Somehow I wonder whether you really meant to
> inform the list you have a problem with "erectile dysfunction".
>  jay
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com>
> To: ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
> oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com; usbphp at yahoo.com;
> wayne230 at comcast.net
> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:00:36 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> http://listadoweb.com/home.php
> _______________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>


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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue May 18 17:36:26 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:36:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] !/2 eleptical rear part ?
In-Reply-To: <201005180636476.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <724867067.20100517193616@pacifier.com>
	<4BF280DA.7080401@comcast.net> <595753410.20100518054412@pacifier.com>
	<201005180636476.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <608590246.20100518163626@pacifier.com>

Hello Peter,

     It was surprisingly painless. we didn't have a press to get out
     the old bushings from the front of the springs, but they were
     pronounced as "OK", so that was no big. All the bolts and nuts
     came apart without inordinate effort, perhaps as a result of
     soaking them for over a week in AeroKroil before the deed. I DO
     need at least one alignment plate, .. the part with the holes
     that holds the rubber pads onto the springs, as one was worn
     thru. I put it on the top rather than tighten nuts against it.

     I should be able to pull the U-bolts from one side at at time and
     replace the locaters on the top of axle and those plates at the
     same time, probably some time this summer.

     The car rides MUCH better. There was some question, because the
     replacement springs had an extra leaf, SIX instead of FIVE of the
     old ones, and a bunch more arch, but the old ones were so tired
     that really wasn't much "spring" left in them. While not Cadillac
     smooth, it's much nicer, and lifted the car a little over 2". The
     bottom  of the  rear fenders used to be about 1/2" above the top
     of the tire rims, and now I see more tire sidewall, but not so
     much that the car looks "jacked", just a slight rake to the
     front. It should hold a trunk load of stuff all the way to
     Elkhart Lake next year. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 Guns don't kill people..., I kill people! 

From pilotrob at msn.com  Tue May 18 18:04:32 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:04:32 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: RE: Spam mails
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds120D42A6A04931B3DC86A8D4E20@phx.gbl>

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E.Shlafer
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:02 PM
To: aatjj at neo.rr.com, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, polysci_101 at justbrits.com, Marge, Rich Shlafer, Matt Pfeil, Lynn Tobin, robbi45 at earthlink.net, Marge Fraser
Cc: spridets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: RE: Spam mails

Rebecca writes: "Well, you know it wasn't me"

LOL, for sure!! :)

nope...coming from a computer on the a vintage British sports car list I hardly use any more. 

Put a couple of posts up a few weeks ago
on used parts I wanted to sell and a guy
who hates my guts gave me a tough time.

Normally I don't respond to his attacking crap but this time I gave it back. 

Now suddenly we've got this problem which MSN support has traced back to that list considering a coicidence of a certain name which appeared in one of the spam mails, a guy NOT on my address list and with whom I have had no direct email contact with in many, many moons.

So the only thing we share in common is membership on this particular vintage British sports car list. Do the math!! :)

And, considering we had words over his possible sexual orientation considering he's got a "thing" for me quite obviously and the size our members was mentioned I believe once or twice (mine being the larger of course) me suddenly having this
emai problem combined with the content
of the emails sorta tells the tale so to 
speak. Again, do the math! :)

At least this is the word I've gotten from support considering MSN TV "2" is like a MAC Virus-free inbound and outbound, not subject Trojan Horse per se.

So it's ain't coming from me in any event and those of you listening on the autox list....well...do the math! :):)

CB

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Tue May 18 18:54:04 2010
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:54:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
Message-ID: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A9068E@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi all - was good to see a bunch of you on Saturday. Especially the ones who
fixed my car for me while I stood there looking nice.

Driving the car to Phil's house made me think that perhaps now was a good time
to get some seat belts. I notice that Moss have some achingly expensive
retractable belts
(http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=49407) so that
got me wondering whether I'd rather have harnesses. I had another car with
harnesses and I rather got used to liking it - does anyone have any experience
with fitting a race harness to a Spridget? I am guessing I just need to weld a
bar across the back somewhere and stick 'em onto it, but any tips appreciated.
:)

Chris

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 19:20:52 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:20:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl><871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl><AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <D4789EDF5C524A4FBB390F52EE79407E@HomePC>

Careful, Kate.  That might get you more offers than you were prepared for!

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:09 PM
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)

He sent it to me too, and I GUARANTEE that I am both completely innocent
and not in need of male enhancement. That is, of course, unless someone
happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars,
dogs, cats, and fishing.

Kate


Jim Johnson wrote:
> When speaking of *male enhancement* you said, "who go out of the way to 
> give
> me a *hard* time....."
>
> Nevermind.  I don't want to know the sordid details....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
>> LOL....
>>
>>
>>
>> ...fortunately, the least of my problems, thank God!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Hacker from Spridget or Bugeye list...most likely Larry Daniels or Hal
>> Faulkner. These are the only two who go out of the way to give me a hard
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> CB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:48:01 -0700
>> From: jfishbein at snet.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>> To: pilotrob at msn.com; ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com;
>> spridgets at autox.team.net; oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com;
>> usbphp at yahoo.com; wayne230 at comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Uh.....Thanks for the link. Somehow I wonder whether you really meant to
>> inform the list you have a problem with "erectile dysfunction".
>>  jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com>
>> To: ron.socal at gmail.com; ronnwp at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
>> oldtar52 at yahoo.com; telriv at yahoo.com; usbphp at yahoo.com;
>> wayne230 at comcast.net
>> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:00:36 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>>
>> http://listadoweb.com/home.php
>> _______________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
> shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
>        John Adams
>        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
> _______________________________________________
>
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue May 18 19:24:11 2010
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:24:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [British-cars] uncle jack is home in Minnesota
Message-ID: <000801caf6f1$fe5699c0$fb03cd40$@com>

-----Original Message-----
From: british-cars-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:british-cars-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
pethier at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:24 PM
To: stag at digest.net
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; british-cars at autox.team.net
Subject: [British-cars] uncle jack is home in Minnesota

The Triumph TransAmerican charity-drive Stag, known as "uncle jack" in
tribute to the late Jack Drews, has arrived at its new home in Saint Paul
Minnesota USA.

Pictures at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/sets/72157623950665471
and at the TRIUMPH STAG CARS pool on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphstagcars
  
Many thanks to all the dedicated folks at the Illinois Sports Owners
Association for all the work they have done on this car. The PTSD charities
in the USA, Canada and the UK have benefited from your efforts.

Many thanks to John Macartney, the spark plug behind this crazy wonderful
plan, and to Glenn Merrell, Joe Pawlak and the late Chuck Kittleson.

Sue has already driven uncle jack to pick up her mom and give her a ride
around White Bear Lake, with me in the back seat.

If you see us somewhere with our UNCJACK license plates, stop and say
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue May 18 19:33:02 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:33:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: RE: Spam mails
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-ds120D42A6A04931B3DC86A8D4E20@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-ds120D42A6A04931B3DC86A8D4E20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <687565.95181.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Do the math?

As it relates to the alphabet?

2 + 19 = 

Like you said, do the math.

jay




________________________________
From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 8:04:32 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: RE: Spam mails

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E.Shlafer
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:02 PM
To: aatjj at neo.rr.com, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, polysci_101 at justbrits.com, Marge, Rich Shlafer, Matt Pfeil, Lynn Tobin, robbi45 at earthlink.net, Marge Fraser
Cc: spridets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: RE: Spam mails

Rebecca writes: "Well, you know it wasn't me"

LOL, for sure!! :)

nope...coming from a computer on the a vintage British sports car list I hardly use any more. 

Put a couple of posts up a few weeks ago
on used parts I wanted to sell and a guy
who hates my guts gave me a tough time.

Normally I don't respond to his attacking crap but this time I gave it back. 

Now suddenly we've got this problem which MSN support has traced back to that list considering a coicidence of a certain name which appeared in one of the spam mails, a guy NOT on my address list and with whom I have had no direct email contact with in many, many moons.

So the only thing we share in common is membership on this particular vintage British sports car list. Do the math!! :)

And, considering we had words over his possible sexual orientation considering he's got a "thing" for me quite obviously and the size our members was mentioned I believe once or twice (mine being the larger of course) me suddenly having this
emai problem combined with the content
of the emails sorta tells the tale so to 
speak. Again, do the math! :)

At least this is the word I've gotten from support considering MSN TV "2" is like a MAC Virus-free inbound and outbound, not subject Trojan Horse per se.

So it's ain't coming from me in any event and those of you listening on the autox list....well...do the math! :):)

CB

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue May 18 19:36:24 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:36:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC -  Nuke it
Message-ID: <726149B76F3E458CB014B0EC8CB9AACD@blackbox2>

If they had done this on day one we would not be in the situation we are now
in.

 

http://trueslant.com/juliaioffe/2010/05/04/nuke-that-slick/

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7726142/Bar
ack-Obama-sends-nuclear-experts-to-tackle-BPs-Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-leak.html

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue May 18 20:00:53 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:00:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A9068E@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A9068E@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W454E77FAE6837A6FCF2C00CAE20@phx.gbl>

I would really recommend at-least 3-point belts. Rick B has the info for a
place that has good ones at a really good price.BillM

> From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:54:04 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
>
> Hi all - was good to see a bunch of you on Saturday. Especially the ones
who
> fixed my car for me while I stood there looking nice.
>
> Driving the car to Phil's house made me think that perhaps now was a good
time
> to get some seat belts. I notice that Moss have some achingly expensive
> retractable belts
> (http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=49407) so
that
> got me wondering whether I'd rather have harnesses. I had another car with
> harnesses and I rather got used to liking it - does anyone have any
experience
> with fitting a race harness to a Spridget? I am guessing I just need to weld
a
> bar across the back somewhere and stick 'em onto it, but any tips
appreciated.
> :)
>
> Chris
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue May 18 20:01:47 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:01:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A9068E@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A9068E@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <BD4511EAE2E244C8901A16C80832CC6A@spider>

Do you have a roll bar?  If I were firmly strapped into a vehicle without a
roof, I'd prefer to have a roll bar as the highest point of impact. ...bill
in Corvallis (I raced SCCA sedans in the late 1960's)
=========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Rae
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:54 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)

Hi all - was good to see a bunch of you on Saturday. Especially the ones who
fixed my car for me while I stood there looking nice.

Driving the car to Phil's house made me think that perhaps now was a good
time
to get some seat belts. I notice that Moss have some achingly expensive
retractable belts
(http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=49407) so
that
got me wondering whether I'd rather have harnesses. I had another car with
harnesses and I rather got used to liking it - does anyone have any
experience
with fitting a race harness to a Spridget? I am guessing I just need to weld
a
bar across the back somewhere and stick 'em onto it, but any tips
appreciated.
:)

Chris
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 18 20:15:49 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:15:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers
In-Reply-To: <876C43A53458419A8F5BDFBFA33A1FAA@OwnerPC>
References: <DE8D6C83136947F99C2839270A09072D@maind>
	<876C43A53458419A8F5BDFBFA33A1FAA@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <4BF349D5.6020508@comcast.net>

On 5/18/2010 6:36 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote:
> I'll be hanging out with the Western PA Triumph Assn. in vendor spaces
> C-66, 67 & 68. Look for me among the beer slurping old guys sitting
> around at the rear of the spaces.

Speaking of vendor spaces, beer, and lunch at Carlisle,
Does anybody need something I might have that will fit in a Sprite?
Will trade for beer, food, other used parts, etc :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue May 18 20:16:53 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:16:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator schematics/pin-outs
In-Reply-To: <FC9A1735-88A6-470A-BC1B-679BBD4732BC@gmail.com>
References: <586595933.20100423173918@pacifier.com>
	<FC9A1735-88A6-470A-BC1B-679BBD4732BC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01caf6f9$59077130$0b165390$@rr.com>

Hey all-

My current books don't reach out past '67 or so.  The '72 or '73 1275 I'm
trying to fit in came with an alternator but without wiring.  Anyone have a
diagram?  

Bonus points for an extra plug I can splice in?

Thanks
Chris

66 MKIII formerly a 1098

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue May 18 20:18:55 2010
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:18:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <20100519021806.A4CC1187645@autox.team.net>

Send a picture of your fishing boat.
		Crash


unless someone 
happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars, 
dogs, cats, and fishing.

Kate

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue May 18 20:22:54 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:22:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Lunch Meet?
In-Reply-To: <9FF3ECB102104B2BA8FBA512B178177F@dell1>
References: <9FF3ECB102104B2BA8FBA512B178177F@dell1>
Message-ID: <6BB13F26-CDD3-47A4-9854-8B8807B6C840@gmail.com>

On May 17, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Biff Jones wrote:

> With the Carlisle Sports & Kit Car Show starting this Friday and  
> with no
> mention to date of spridget owners getting together there for  
> lunch, I'll take
> it on myself to say If you are interested in getting together with  
> other
> spridget owners for lunch on Saturday at noon let's meet at the  
> first steps of
> the grandstand by the give away cars.



Biff,

Cool,  I can actually make it this year ;)

Kevin

From conen at bellsouth.net  Wed May 19 00:05:35 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 23:05:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] no subject
Message-ID: <762217.5275.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Kate Bales...
>>He sent it to me too, and I GUARANTEE that I am both completely innocent
>>and not in need of male enhancement. That is, of course, unless someone
>>happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars,
>>dogs, cats, and fishing.

Well; 3 out of 4...  ;-) :-) :-)
 Ed in NC

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed May 19 01:10:01 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:10:01 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: RE: Spam mails
References: <SNT135-ds120D42A6A04931B3DC86A8D4E20@phx.gbl>
	<687565.95181.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1BE9528A382340F5B70D9F74FE871A8B@user8634b3d69b>

CHILDREN.....

I don't care who started it.....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: RE: Spam mails


> Do the math?
>
> As it relates to the alphabet?
>
> 2 + 19 =
>
> Like you said, do the math.
>
> jay
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert E.Shlafer
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:02 PM
>> Cc: spridets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: RE: Spam mails
>
> Rebecca writes: "Well, you know it wasn't me"
>
> LOL, for sure!! :)
>
> nope...coming from a computer on the a vintage British sports car list I 
> hardly use any more.
>
> Put a couple of posts up a few weeks ago
> on used parts I wanted to sell and a guy
> who hates my guts gave me a tough time.
>
> Normally I don't respond to his attacking crap but this time I gave it 
> back.
>
> Now suddenly we've got this problem which MSN support has traced back to 
> that list considering a coicidence of a certain name which appeared in one 
> of the spam mails, a guy NOT on my address list and with whom I have had 
> no direct email contact with in many, many moons.
>
> So the only thing we share in common is membership on this particular 
> vintage British sports car list. Do the math!! :)
>
> And, considering we had words over his possible sexual orientation 
> considering he's got a "thing" for me quite obviously and the size our 
> members was mentioned I believe once or twice (mine being the larger of 
> course) me suddenly having this
> emai problem combined with the content
> of the emails sorta tells the tale so to
> speak. Again, do the math! :)
>
> At least this is the word I've gotten from support considering MSN TV "2" 
> is like a MAC Virus-free inbound and outbound, not subject Trojan Horse 
> per se.
>
> So it's ain't coming from me in any event and those of you listening on 
> the autox list....well...do the math! :):)
>
> CB

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed May 19 01:16:05 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:16:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20100519021910.3A63E41CD@z-mta02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
References: <20100519021910.3A63E41CD@z-mta02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4BF39035.3000302@frontiernet.net>

I only have a jon boat right now. I've been looking for a bigger one. I 
expect to pick one up before winter when people start getting rid of them.

Kate

David Ramsey wrote:
> Send a picture of your fishing boat.
> 		Crash
>
>
> unless someone 
> happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars, 
> dogs, cats, and fishing.
>
> Kate

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 19 06:30:55 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:30:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>,
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w18CA496529249BC82B5F4FB8E20@phx.gbl>

unattached from what?  ;)

> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:09:39 -0700
> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> He sent it to me too, and I GUARANTEE that I am both completely innocent
> and not in need of male enhancement. That is, of course, unless someone
> happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars,
> dogs, cats, and fishing.
>
> Kate

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 06:44:08 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 05:44:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Belts
Message-ID: <738208.80129.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I'm looking for a 3 point belt also.
>From Bill M.
I would really recommend at-least 3-point belts. Rick B has the info for a
place that has good ones at a really good price.BillM

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 07:11:31 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A9068E@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <830637.3562.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello Chris,
Yep if you also installed a roll bar and a cross brace at the same time it would be a simple job to install a racing harness. it sounds like you may already have some idea regarding the installation details, but the SCCA General Competition Rules are probably the best source of info on how to do the installation correctly. 
http://tinyurl.com/3x7mvpg
Look at section 9.3.19 Driver's Restraint System. 
Please be aware that a restraint system that is not properly installed could be
 dangerous, and If your state has vehicle safety inspection a sharp mechanic may not pass a harness for not being DOT approved. I'm not even going to mention the litigation issues should someone be injured, oops just did.
 Personally I would not install a harness for the street again unless it was a car that was also used in competition. It was a pain in the butt! First you have to sit on the components, and then collect six pieces of hardware to buckle up every time I stopped while hopping around town. 
I agree that Mo$$ prices are too high, and I'd also appreciate a good source for the OEM belts.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com> wrote:
Driving the car to Phil's house made me think that perhaps now was a good time
to get some seat belts. I notice that Moss have some achingly expensive
retractable belts
(http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=49407) so that
got me wondering whether I'd rather have harnesses. I had another car with
harnesses and I rather got used to liking it - does anyone have any experience
with fitting a race harness to a Spridget? I am guessing I just need to weld a
bar across the back somewhere and stick 'em onto it, but any tips appreciated.
:)

Chris

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 19 07:34:41 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:34:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] LUCAS Technical Correspondence Course,
	275pg textbook
Message-ID: <AE24860D10E94AE69412884AEE2E6AB3@HomePC>

Forwarded from the MG list with thanks to Barney Gaylord.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Barney Gaylord" <barneymg at mgaguru.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:54 AM
To: <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] LUCAS Technical Correspondence Course, 275pg textbook

For anyone interested in the deepest workiings of Lucas electrics, I 
have just posted on line a vintage 275 page text book titled 
"Overseas Technical Correspondence Course" published by Lucas 
Technical Service.  This rare book was never released to the general 
public, but was used to train dealer service personel via 
correspondence school.  See index web page here: 
http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/books/lts_otcc.htm

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com
_______________________________________________

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed May 19 08:52:19 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:52:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Belts
In-Reply-To: <738208.80129.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <738208.80129.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <882C68044DE9467594378006508F7B18@Home>

Here is a non-retracting three-point seat belt.  I don't doubt there are 
others.   Perhaps a retracting shoulder belt with a non-retracting lap belt 
would be even better.

 http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/3pt-non-retractable-seat-belts-bckt-help.htmlMichael Rowe

From richb at u.washington.edu  Wed May 19 09:06:57 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:06:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
References: <830637.3562.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F97A7AD51E6E423D9C6638D5A1F5B73B@psych.washington.edu>

Here is a link that someone on the list send out a while ago.  I have not 
used them and so can't speak to the product.  Just passing on the link.

http://www.seatbeltsplus.com/

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Chris Rae" <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)


> Hello Chris,
> Yep if you also installed a roll bar and a cross brace at the same time it 
> would be a simple job to install a racing harness. it sounds like you may 
> already have some idea regarding the installation details, but the SCCA 
> General Competition Rules are probably the best source of info on how to 
> do the installation correctly.
> http://tinyurl.com/3x7mvpg
> Look at section 9.3.19 Driver's Restraint System.
> Please be aware that a restraint system that is not properly installed 
> could be
> dangerous, and If your state has vehicle safety inspection a sharp 
> mechanic may not pass a harness for not being DOT approved. I'm not even 
> going to mention the litigation issues should someone be injured, oops 
> just did.
> Personally I would not install a harness for the street again unless it 
> was a car that was also used in competition. It was a pain in the butt! 
> First you have to sit on the components, and then collect six pieces of 
> hardware to buckle up every time I stopped while hopping around town.
> I agree that Mo$$ prices are too high, and I'd also appreciate a good 
> source for the OEM belts.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
> --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com> wrote:
> Driving the car to Phil's house made me think that perhaps now was a good 
> time
> to get some seat belts. I notice that Moss have some achingly expensive
> retractable belts
> (http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=49407) so 
> that
> got me wondering whether I'd rather have harnesses. I had another car with
> harnesses and I rather got used to liking it - does anyone have any 
> experience
> with fitting a race harness to a Spridget? I am guessing I just need to 
> weld a
> bar across the back somewhere and stick 'em onto it, but any tips 
> appreciated.
> :)
>
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 19 09:20:34 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:20:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w18CA496529249BC82B5F4FB8E20@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>
	<BAY147-w18CA496529249BC82B5F4FB8E20@phx.gbl>
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Did John Bobbit ever get remarried?

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> unattached from what?  ;)
>
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:09:39 -0700
> > From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
> >
> > He sent it to me too, and I GUARANTEE that I am both completely innocent
> > and not in need of male enhancement. That is, of course, unless someone
> > happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars,
> > dogs, cats, and fishing.
> >
> > Kate
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed May 19 09:56:10 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:56:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRZx9gnX0k2lCMAKtT5BT-2CnFXv6Bjm0Vxpxc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris, I recently got new belts for my MK2 Sprite and I'm very happy with
them.
The quality is excellent, the fittings worked and the shine on the chrome is
incredible.
I chose "flame red" webbing for my red car, I've got black seats with red
trim.
I think they look awesome!
Here  is the website where I ordered mine:

http://www.gotbelts.com/

These are the ones I put in my car:

http://www.gotbelts.com/nonrechlilap29.html

Rick Bastedo


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)

Hi all - was good to see a bunch of you on Saturday. Especially the ones who
fixed my car for me while I stood there looking nice.

Driving the car to Phil's house made me think that perhaps now was a good
time
to get some seat belts. I notice that Moss have some achingly expensive
retractable belts
(http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=49407) so
that
got me wondering whether I'd rather have harnesses. I had another car with
harnesses and I rather got used to liking it - does anyone have any
experience
with fitting a race harness to a Spridget? I am guessing I just need to weld
a
bar across the back somewhere and stick 'em onto it, but any tips
appreciated.
:)

Chris

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Wed May 19 10:59:46 2010
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 16:59:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Belts
In-Reply-To: <882C68044DE9467594378006508F7B18@Home>
References: <738208.80129.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<882C68044DE9467594378006508F7B18@Home>
Message-ID: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A91649@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

This looks about right, thank you - it says "bucket seats" on there but the
picture is of a normal seat - they don't *require* bucket seats, surely?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: 19 May 2010 07:52
To: Skip Jackson; spridget
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seat Belts

Here is a non-retracting three-point seat belt.  I don't doubt there are
others.   Perhaps a retracting shoulder belt with a non-retracting lap belt
would be even better.

 http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/3pt-non-retractable-seat-belts-bckt
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed May 19 11:30:33 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:30:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
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References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>,
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>,
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	<BAY147-w18CA496529249BC82B5F4FB8E20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4BF42039.4020806@frontiernet.net>

Wives, girlfriends, significant others, insistence on city life, etc.


robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
> unattached from what?  ;)
>
>   
>> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:09:39 -0700
>> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
>> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>>
>> He sent it to me too, and I GUARANTEE that I am both completely innocent
>> and not in need of male enhancement. That is, of course, unless someone
>> happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars,
>> dogs, cats, and fishing.
>>
>> Kate
>>     
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May 19 11:48:04 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:48:04 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers
Message-ID: <c502c.3b7b484d.39257e54@aol.com>

At least you admit it!!
 
In a message dated 19/05/2010 00:50:10 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com  
writes:

I'll be  hanging out with the Western PA Triumph 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May 19 11:49:52 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:49:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] !/2 eleptical rear part ?
Message-ID: <c5215.7228dd14.39257ec0@aol.com>

Bill,
 
Have you checked to see if that 6th leaf can be removed to reduce both arch 
 and ride height?
 
Regards
 
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 19/05/2010 01:34:34 GMT Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

SIX  instead of FIVE of the
old ones, and a bunch more arch,  but the old ones were so tired
that really wasn't much  "spring" left in them. While not Cadillac
smooth, it's  much nicer, and lifted the car a little over 2". The
bottom  of the  rear fenders used to be about 1/2" above the  top
of the tire rims, and now I see more tire sidewall,  but not so
much that the car looks "jacked", just a  slight rake to the
front. It should hold a trunk load  of stuff all the way to
Elkhart Lake next year.  

-- 
Best regards,
Bill L.            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May 19 11:52:47 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:52:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
Message-ID: <c54e8.1e0c8ec3.39257f6f@aol.com>

Well there are books with this stuff in.........  
 
I personally don't recommend racing harnesses in a Spridget unless you have 
 a roll over bar (rollbar) because if you flip the car without a rollover 
bar you  can't duck, dive, lean or whatever.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 19/05/2010 02:53:18 GMT Daylight Time,  
Chris.Rae at microsoft.com writes:

does  anyone have any experience
with fitting a race harness to a Spridget?  

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of bookimage - 860Kb.1.jpg]

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May 19 11:59:39 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:59:39 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
Message-ID: <c5c76.b4b27dd.3925810b@aol.com>

I've never tired of my 6 point belt set and I haven't bothered with  
strategic velcro, and mini rubber straps to hold the straps out of the way like  
the pro 24hr cars have.  I have a Willans belt set FIA and SFi approved  (FIA 
is a superior standard) with the release box on my choice of strap.   It's 
not cheap but then neither is my life and I like to 'get a move on' when  
driving'.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 19/05/2010 15:03:12 GMT Daylight Time, fastvee at yahoo.com 
 writes:

Personally I would not install a harness for the street again  unless it 
was a car that was also used in competition. It was a pain in the  butt! First 
you have to sit on the components, and then collect six pieces of  hardware 
to buckle up every time I stopped while hopping around town.  

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[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Crash0004.jpg]

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May 19 13:01:54 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] LUCAS Technical Correspondence  Course,
 275pg textbook
In-Reply-To: <AE24860D10E94AE69412884AEE2E6AB3@HomePC>
References: <AE24860D10E94AE69412884AEE2E6AB3@HomePC>
Message-ID: <37540.36164.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thank you Larry.

 jay




________________________________
From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Bugeye Yahoo Group <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 9:34:41 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] LUCAS Technical Correspondence Course, 275pg textbook

Forwarded from the MG list with thanks to Barney Gaylord.

LAD

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Wed May 19 13:28:09 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:28:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
Message-ID: <776501caf789$6a071630$0168010a@mail2world.com>

In my experience, there's not a whole lot of time for ducking, diving,
whatever, during a rollover. BTDT, and survived. The 3 point retractable
belts I installed worked fine during the rollover, and probably helped
promote survival. IMO, a properly secured harness would only improve
this.

BTW, I did install a roll over bar after this, but I still have my 3
point belts.

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>Sent: 5/19/2010 1:52:47 PM
>To: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com;spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
>
>Well there are books with this stuff in......... 
> 
>I personally don't recommend racing harnesses in a Spridget unless you
have 
> a roll over bar (rollbar) because if you flip the car without a
rollover 
>bar you can't duck, dive, lean or whatever.
> 
>Weslake-Monza 1330
> 
>In a message dated 19/05/2010 02:53:18 GMT Daylight Time, 
>Chris.Rae at microsoft.com writes:
>
>does anyone have any experience
>with fitting a race harness to a Spridget? 
>
>[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name
of
>bookimage - 860Kb.1.jpg]
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 19 14:23:10 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:23:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
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References: <SNT135-w393CD891E4DBAF0FF0C4D2D4E10@phx.gbl>, ,
	<871411.14475.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, ,
	<SNT135-w54F744787667C75AE4B13AD4E10@phx.gbl>, ,
	<AANLkTinW4zwyxGEK3EfobezH_poAjsqe1n9zMkFvfUVG@mail.gmail.com>, ,
	<4BF31023.5090500@frontiernet.net>,
	<BAY147-w18CA496529249BC82B5F4FB8E20@phx.gbl>,
	<4BF42039.4020806@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w20C1B097E48997105E8D87B8E20@phx.gbl>

Well, I don't have 'wives'.  I do have one though.  ;)

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg






> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:30:33 -0700
> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> Wives, girlfriends, significant others, insistence on city life, etc.
>
>
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
> > unattached from what? ;)
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:09:39 -0700
> >> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> >> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
> >>
> >> He sent it to me too, and I GUARANTEE that I am both completely innocent
> >> and not in need of male enhancement. That is, of course, unless someone
> >> happens to be aware of a nice unattached male who enjoys weird cars,
> >> dogs, cats, and fishing.
> >>
> >> Kate
> >>
> > _______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May 19 14:50:52 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 16:50:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
Message-ID: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>

Well. I've been upside down in cars with a full harness and without though  
both cars were NOT convertibles (they had a steel roof).  I also have the  
experience of many miles of driving a Sprite with a full race harness, 4  
point and 6 point.
 
Ok, so without time for ducking and diving it's a fact that with a 3 point  
retractable belt the sideward motion of the rollover will move you to the 
side  and as your head contacts the ground the force will move you to the 
side if the  rolling motion hasn't already done so.  It's still possible your 
head will  impact the ground if the accident speed is high/violent enough 
though while a  100mph crash in a Lancia Beta would do this an 80mph crash in a 
Spridget might  not?
 
With a 4/5/6 point full harness you are absolutely not going to move very  
much sideways at all.
 
I guess Chris can consider the advice he has been given and make up his own 
 mind.  I would however, ask that he very clearly understands the  issues.  
Better still maybe the list can get a car set up on one of those  body 
repair rotisseries and do a back to back comparasion with each type of belt  set?
 
Regards
 
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
 
In a message dated 19/05/2010 21:20:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
cbking at alum.rpi.edu writes:

In my  experience, there's not a whole lot of time for ducking, diving,
whatever,  during a rollover. BTDT, and survived. The 3 point retractable
belts I  installed worked fine during the rollover, and probably helped
promote  survival. IMO, a properly secured harness would only  improve
this.

BTW, I did install a roll over bar after this, but I  still have my 3
point belts.

-=Chris

Chris  King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original  Message-----> 
>From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>Sent: 5/19/2010 1:52:47 PM
>To:  Chris.Rae at microsoft.com;spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re:  [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
>
>Well  there are books with this stuff in......... 
> 
>I personally  don't recommend racing harnesses in a Spridget unless you
have 
> a  roll over bar (rollbar) because if you flip the car without a
rollover  
>bar you can't duck, dive, lean or whatever.
>  
>Weslake-Monza 1330
> 
>In a message dated 19/05/2010  02:53:18 GMT Daylight Time, 
>Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  writes:
>
>does anyone have any experience
>with fitting a  race harness to a Spridget? 
>
>[demime 1.01d removed an  attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name
of
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed May 19 15:54:48 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:54:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>

I survived a multi-roll over crash in my MGTD, wearing nothing but a 
1950s style 4" web lap belt. I was able to lean over and grab the 
passenger side seat frame and hang on. My only injury was from the belt.

I survived a car v locomotive by virtue of not wearing ANY belt, thus 
being able to leave the car prior to contact.

I survived a high speed T-bone by virtue of not wearing a seatbelt. I 
was able to straddle the center console and steer from the passenger 
seat.My left leg needed to be pried from under the steering wheel.

I was badly beaten by a passenger on my bus because the seatbelt release 
jammed and I had no way to move and defend myself.

Belts and harnesses can be either good or bad, depending entirely on the 
circumstances of the accident. I have both a harness and a roll bar in 
the Midget. I always use the harness. I have push button harness/belts 
in my other vehicles and refuse to use them. I have seen too many 
instances of them releasing when they should hold, and jamming when they 
should release. Give me aircraft type buckles and I will happily use 
them daily.

Kate


WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Well. I've been upside down in cars with a full harness and without though  
> both cars were NOT convertibles (they had a steel roof).  I also have the  
> experience of many miles of driving a Sprite with a full race harness, 4  
> point and 6 point.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 19 15:56:43 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:56:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w59462D0F3B999FF49DCE41B8E20@phx.gbl>

> Well. I've been upside down in cars with a full harness



It's gotta be hard to drive that way!! ;)

> and as your head contacts the ground



So what you're really saying is that there's 'some' :) luck involved.  BTDT
and I agree.  I'm still pushing my luck, but it seems to be much rarer these
days.  You can improve your odds with the right mods.




> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> Well. I've been upside down in cars with a full harness and without though
> both cars were NOT convertibles (they had a steel roof). I also have the
> experience of many miles of driving a Sprite with a full race harness, 4
> point and 6 point.
>
> Ok, so without time for ducking and diving it's a fact that with a 3 point
> retractable belt the sideward motion of the rollover will move you to the
> side and as your head contacts the ground the force will move you to the
> side if the rolling motion hasn't already done so. It's still possible your
> head will impact the ground if the accident speed is high/violent enough
> though while a 100mph crash in a Lancia Beta would do this an 80mph crash in
a
> Spridget might not?
>
> With a 4/5/6 point full harness you are absolutely not going to move very
> much sideways at all.
>
> I guess Chris can consider the advice he has been given and make up his own
> mind. I would however, ask that he very clearly understands the issues.
> Better still maybe the list can get a car set up on one of those body
> repair rotisseries and do a back to back comparasion with each type of belt
set?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
>
> In a message dated 19/05/2010 21:20:23 GMT Daylight Time,
> cbking at alum.rpi.edu writes:
>
> In my experience, there's not a whole lot of time for ducking, diving,
> whatever, during a rollover. BTDT, and survived. The 3 point retractable
> belts I installed worked fine during the rollover, and probably helped
> promote survival. IMO, a properly secured harness would only improve
> this.
>
> BTW, I did install a roll over bar after this, but I still have my 3
> point belts.
>
> -=Chris
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
>
> <-----Original Message----->
> >From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
> >Sent: 5/19/2010 1:52:47 PM
> >To: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com;spridgets at autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
> >
> >Well there are books with this stuff in.........
> >
> >I personally don't recommend racing harnesses in a Spridget unless you
> have
> > a roll over bar (rollbar) because if you flip the car without a
> rollover
> >bar you can't duck, dive, lean or whatever.
> >
> >Weslake-Monza 1330
> >
> >In a message dated 19/05/2010 02:53:18 GMT Daylight Time,
> >Chris.Rae at microsoft.com writes:
> >
> >does anyone have any experience
> >with fitting a race harness to a Spridget?
> >
> >[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name
> of
> >bookimage - 860Kb.1.jpg]
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 19 16:12:47 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:12:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <776501caf789$6a071630$0168010a@mail2world.com>
References: <776501caf789$6a071630$0168010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <8029621183594960AD5F171F250F809E@HomePC>

On the other hand, if you aren't wearing a helmet, a roll bar provides a 
really nice, hard surface to bounce your head off of.

LAD

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From: "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:28 PM
To: <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)

In my experience, there's not a whole lot of time for ducking, diving,
whatever, during a rollover. BTDT, and survived. The 3 point retractable
belts I installed worked fine during the rollover, and probably helped
promote survival. IMO, a properly secured harness would only improve
this.

BTW, I did install a roll over bar after this, but I still have my 3
point belts.

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message----->
>From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>Sent: 5/19/2010 1:52:47 PM
>To: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com;spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
>
>Well there are books with this stuff in.........
>
>I personally don't recommend racing harnesses in a Spridget unless you
have
> a roll over bar (rollbar) because if you flip the car without a
rollover
>bar you can't duck, dive, lean or whatever.
>
>Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>In a message dated 19/05/2010 02:53:18 GMT Daylight Time,
>Chris.Rae at microsoft.com writes:
>
>does anyone have any experience
>with fitting a race harness to a Spridget?
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed May 19 16:16:09 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:16:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
	Cellphone]
In-Reply-To: <4BF45B04.6030608@frontiernet.net>
References: <4BF45B04.6030608@frontiernet.net>
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What the Hell was the motorcycle rider doing at 85 MPH?  If she pulled out
in front of him, it must have been on surface streets.  No-one pulls out at
90 degrees to traffic flow on the freeway where this speed is more common.
The motorcycle rider takes some responsibility in this crash.  It could have
happened to anyone pulling out on a public street if a maniac is doing 85
MPH in a 35, or even 50 MPH zone.  No-one would have had time to react.  I
am VERY careful driving my motorcycle on surface streets.  I don't speed and
I slow down at intersections even when I have the green light.  Cell phone
or not, this can happen to any motorcycle rider at any time.
Mike MacLean

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

>
>
>
>  *Subject:* Fwd: Her last call was from her New Cellphone
>
>
>
>
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>
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> Her last call was from a new cell phone...
>
> Do you see the motorcycle?
>
>
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>
>
> Now do you see it?
>
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>
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>
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>
>
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>
>
>
> The Honda crotch rocket rider was traveling at approximately
> 85 mph. The VW driver was talking on a cell phone when she
> pulled out from a side street, apparently not seeing the
> motorcycle. The rider's reaction time was not sufficient
> enough to avoid this accident.
> The car had two passengers
> and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them.
> The Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact
> and landed 20 feet from where the collision took place.
>
> All three involved (two in the car and the bike rider) were
> killed instantly. This graphic demonstration was placed at
> the Motorcycle Fair by the Police and Road Safety Department..
> Pass this on to car drivers or soon to be
> new drivers, or new motorcycle owners
> AND ESPECIALLY EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO HAS A CELL PHONE!!!!!
> A picture is worth a thousand words.
>
> Save a life
>
> Stop talking on Cell phones and Texting while  trying to drive.
> The life you save may be your own..... or mine...
>
>
>
> Keep passing this on so everyone will see what can happen by using a CELL
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>
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From grday at btinternet.com  Wed May 19 16:49:39 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:49:39 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A5ADDFCC95124566AD00185C7A530DB3@user8634b3d69b>

THIS MAY BE A TAD UNPLEASANT FOR THE SQUEAMISH.  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.  YOU 
DO NOT HAVE TO READ IT.
I've been to more than a couple of incidents where a car with a glass 
sunroof  has overturned and the drivers (and passenger) were wearing 
'normal' self retracting lap and diagonal seatbelts.  They had slid out of 
the belts and hit the road surface after the sunroof had broken and the car 
was sliding on its roof.  They were scraped out of the car between the roof 
and road over quite a long distance.  On a couple of them there was a 
reasonable gap (around 8m - 10m) between the glass sunroof fragments and 
start of a line of body tissue suggesting the cars had been upside-down for 
a second or less before they slid from the belts.  I'm very quirky about not 
buying a car with a sunroof but would happily drive the Sprite and currently 
the wife's Audi TT.  It is the thought of being 'squashed, scraped and 
spread' in that 3/8th inch gap between the roof and road that doesn't really 
appeal.
My own experience is when you are upside down and the world has stopped 
moving you have a desire to release the belt (full harness in comp motor). 
Your head hits the roof, it hurts your neck and there is bugger all you can 
do about it - although the second time I knew not to use both hands to undo 
my belt and I hung onto a lap belt with one hand so I landed on my other 
shoulder.  On neither occasion did I have time to duck, bend, fold or do 
anything other than tighten my grip on the steering wheel so my arms 
wouldn't flail about.

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)


> Well. I've been upside down in cars with a full harness and without though
> both cars were NOT convertibles (they had a steel roof).  I also have the
> experience of many miles of driving a Sprite with a full race harness, 4
> point and 6 point.
>
> Ok, so without time for ducking and diving it's a fact that with a 3 point
> retractable belt the sideward motion of the rollover will move you to the
> side  and as your head contacts the ground the force will move you to the
> side if the  rolling motion hasn't already done so.  It's still possible 
> your
> head will  impact the ground if the accident speed is high/violent enough
> though while a  100mph crash in a Lancia Beta would do this an 80mph crash 
> in a
> Spridget might  not?
>
> With a 4/5/6 point full harness you are absolutely not going to move very
> much sideways at all.
>
> I guess Chris can consider the advice he has been given and make up his 
> own
> mind.  I would however, ask that he very clearly understands the  issues.
> Better still maybe the list can get a car set up on one of those  body
> repair rotisseries and do a back to back comparasion with each type of 
> belt  set?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
>
> In a message dated 19/05/2010 21:20:23 GMT Daylight Time,  >
> In my  experience, there's not a whole lot of time for ducking, diving,
> whatever,  during a rollover. BTDT, and survived. The 3 point retractable
> belts I  installed worked fine during the rollover, and probably helped
> promote  survival. IMO, a properly secured harness would only  improve
> this.
>
> BTW, I did install a roll over bar after this, but I  still have my 3
> point belts.
>
> -=Chris
>
> Chris  King
>>
> <-----Original  Message----->
>>From:>>Sent: 5/19/2010 1:52:47 PM
Subject: Re:  [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
>>
>>Well  there are books with this stuff in.........
>>
>>I personally  don't recommend racing harnesses in a Spridget unless you
> have  a  roll over bar (rollbar) because if you flip the car without a
> rollover  bar you can't duck, dive, lean or whatever.
>>
>>Weslake-Monza 1330
>>
>>In a message dated 19/05/2010  02:53:18 GMT Daylight Time,
>>Chris.Rae  writes:
>>
>>does anyone have any experience with fitting a  race harness to a 
>>Spridget?
_______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 19 17:28:53 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:28:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>,
	<4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w2301DB15F86A103479609CB8E20@phx.gbl>

>> wearing nothing but a 1950s style 4" web lap belt.

Really?!  Well, I wish I'd seen that!  :)


> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:54:48 -0700
> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
>
> I survived a multi-roll over crash in my MGTD, wearing nothing but a
> 1950s style 4" web lap belt. I was able to lean over and grab the
> passenger side seat frame and hang on. My only injury was from the belt.
>
> I survived a car v locomotive by virtue of not wearing ANY belt, thus
> being able to leave the car prior to contact.
>
> I survived a high speed T-bone by virtue of not wearing a seatbelt. I
> was able to straddle the center console and steer from the passenger
> seat.My left leg needed to be pried from under the steering wheel.
>
> I was badly beaten by a passenger on my bus because the seatbelt release
> jammed and I had no way to move and defend myself.
>
> Belts and harnesses can be either good or bad, depending entirely on the
> circumstances of the accident. I have both a harness and a roll bar in
> the Midget. I always use the harness. I have push button harness/belts
> in my other vehicles and refuse to use them. I have seen too many
> instances of them releasing when they should hold, and jamming when they
> should release. Give me aircraft type buckles and I will happily use
> them daily.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 19 17:33:05 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:33:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <8029621183594960AD5F171F250F809E@HomePC>
References: <776501caf789$6a071630$0168010a@mail2world.com>
	<8029621183594960AD5F171F250F809E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9sr0LKnjUnADmoqjw8e7-SNFZHvMUHTv6Gqio@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> a roll bar provides a
> really nice, hard surface to bounce your head off of.
>

A very interesting observation, LAD.  Now that I know you better I must say
that comment explains a lot....     ;-)

Myself?  I have no neat and tidy excuse for my derangement.

Cheers!!
Jim

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 19 17:36:23 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:36:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] LUCAS Technical Correspondence   Course,
 275pg textbook
In-Reply-To: <37540.36164.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <AE24860D10E94AE69412884AEE2E6AB3@HomePC>
	<37540.36164.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57F8D2A6D81E4EC0B035BC8F4E0E4583@HomePC>

You're welcome, Jay.  Pretty nice piece of info that Barney shared with us. 
This is a darn big file to print out, but it looks to be very worthwhile.  I 
think I'll just link to Barney's site and hope he sticks around for a while.

By the way, poke around in Barney's site if you haven't been there before. 
He is a wealth of information.  Mostly about B-series stuff, but a lot of it 
crosses over.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:01 PM
To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] LUCAS Technical Correspondence  Course, 
275pg textbook

Thank you Larry.

 jay




________________________________
From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Bugeye Yahoo Group 
<bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 9:34:41 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] LUCAS Technical Correspondence Course, 275pg 
textbook

Forwarded from the MG list with thanks to Barney Gaylord.

LAD
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 19 18:32:59 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:32:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim9sr0LKnjUnADmoqjw8e7-SNFZHvMUHTv6Gqio@mail.gmail.com>
References: <776501caf789$6a071630$0168010a@mail2world.com><8029621183594960AD5F171F250F809E@HomePC>
	<AANLkTim9sr0LKnjUnADmoqjw8e7-SNFZHvMUHTv6Gqio@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CEA08FAC39A64474AB9E25E3A8E707E5@HomePC>

Nah, Jim, all my problems were innate.

The only roll bars I have kept in the car were in race cars where I was 
wearing a helmet.  Sorry, but adding a steel bar to contact your head is not 
my idea of safety.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:33 PM
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Larry Daniels 
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> a roll bar provides a
> really nice, hard surface to bounce your head off of.
>

A very interesting observation, LAD.  Now that I know you better I must say
that comment explains a lot....     ;-)

Myself?  I have no neat and tidy excuse for my derangement.

Cheers!!
Jim
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May 19 18:36:08 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:36:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
 Cellphone]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAWtORN5Jpq9GaaMgIQOdqBfvOlSJdJpVUYvgd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BF45B04.6030608@frontiernet.net>
	<AANLkTimAWtORN5Jpq9GaaMgIQOdqBfvOlSJdJpVUYvgd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <878737.18849.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Ditto.

I have nothing against motorcyclists but when I see one on the interstate going 100-125-150 (yowza) I shake my head.

One night a group of bikers, (30 or so bikes), passed us on the interstate (I-84 in Hartford, CT) going roughly 100, in moderate traffic. Not very smart in my book.

 jay




________________________________
From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
To: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Assn <9issa at justbrits.com>
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 6:16:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New Cellphone]

What the Hell was the motorcycle rider doing at 85 MPH? 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 19 19:09:58 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:09:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w2301DB15F86A103479609CB8E20@phx.gbl>
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>,
	<4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>
	<BAY147-w2301DB15F86A103479609CB8E20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4BF48BE6.6060605@justbrits.com>

<<[Kate wrote:] ...wearing nothing but a 1950s style 4" web lap belt.

and then [RD wrote:]   Really?!  Well, I wish I'd seen that!   :)   >>

AGREED RB, AGREED !!!!!!

Cute 'getup' me thinks <VBEG> !!!

Anon

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 19 19:38:07 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:38:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w2301DB15F86A103479609CB8E20@phx.gbl>
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>,
	<4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>
	<BAY147-w2301DB15F86A103479609CB8E20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9F0678284C404595B23FA36D041B8E83@spider>

4"? That sounds like the belts the Army Air Corp used in the early 1940's?
...bill in corvallis

================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:29 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)

 

>> wearing nothing but a 1950s style 4" web lap belt.

 

Really?!  Well, I wish I'd seen that!  :)

 

 

> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:54:48 -0700

> From: kgb at frontiernet.net

> 

> I survived a multi-roll over crash in my MGTD, wearing nothing but a

> 1950s style 4" web lap belt. I was able to lean over and grab the

> passenger side seat frame and hang on. My only injury was from the belt.

> 

> I survived a car v locomotive by virtue of not wearing ANY belt, thus

> being able to leave the car prior to contact.

> 

> I survived a high speed T-bone by virtue of not wearing a seatbelt. I

> was able to straddle the center console and steer from the passenger

> seat. My left leg needed to be pried from under the steering wheel.

> 

> I was badly beaten by a passenger on my bus because the seatbelt release

> jammed and I had no way to move and defend myself.

> 

> Belts and harnesses can be either good or bad, depending entirely on the

> circumstances of the accident. I have both a harness and a roll bar in

> the Midget. I always use the harness. I have push button harness/belts

> in my other vehicles and refuse to use them. I have seen too many

> instances of them releasing when they should hold, and jamming when they

> should release. Give me aircraft type buckles and I will happily use

> them daily.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed May 19 19:58:49 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
 Cellphone]
In-Reply-To: <878737.18849.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <835042.63863.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> One night a group of bikers, (30 or so bikes), passed us on
> the interstate (I-84 in Hartford, CT) going roughly 100, in
> moderate traffic. Not very smart in my book.

Yes, but I have 2 friends who received liver donations as a result of motorcyclists; May is the best month in Illinois for organ donations. 

I love to ride motorcycles, in many ways more than cars, and I have never ridden a boring motorcycle. 100 is fun, but so is 50 (35 on a scooter, for that matter). No need to speed.

Ron

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed May 19 20:00:55 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 22:00:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers
In-Reply-To: <c502c.3b7b484d.39257e54@aol.com>
References: <c502c.3b7b484d.39257e54@aol.com>
Message-ID: <154F3AAC07EE447594D7C15921E53876@OwnerPC>

Yeah, they let me join the club, back when we didn't have an MG club in
Pittsburgh, because I had a TR3 transmission under my workbench.  They figured
it might eventually attract enough other Triumph parts to grow a whole TR3.
I have since traded the TR3 tranny for some MG parts ;)
Bud Osbourne
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
  To: abcoz at hky.com ; frogeye at cox.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle spot numbers


  At least you admit it!!

  In a message dated 19/05/2010 00:50:10 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com
writes:
    I'll be hanging out with the Western PA Triumph

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed May 19 20:35:16 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 19:35:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <4BF48BE6.6060605@justbrits.com>
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>,
	<4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>
	<BAY147-w2301DB15F86A103479609CB8E20@phx.gbl>
	<4BF48BE6.6060605@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4BF49FE4.1050900@frontiernet.net>

So I was young & cute then.

K

Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> <<[Kate wrote:] ...wearing nothing but a 1950s style 4" web lap belt.
>
> and then [RD wrote:]   Really?!  Well, I wish I'd seen that!   :)   >>
>
> AGREED RB, AGREED !!!!!!
>
> Cute 'getup' me thinks <VBEG> !!!
>
> Anon
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed May 19 21:13:26 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:13:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vancouver ABFM anyone?
Message-ID: <704622607.20100519201326@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  Anyone else planning to be attend the Vancouver BC ABFM this
  Saturday? I'll be there with "the red thing" as usual, the only box
  spritethere with a black factory hardtop, and a black grill. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Bad command or filename. Go stand in the corner. 

From hardy.john at cox.net  Wed May 19 21:20:17 2010
From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:20:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Original Toolbag Replica
In-Reply-To: <932173.5569.qm@web63503.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100519232017.ACFRO.451566.imail@fed1rmwml31>

Doug,

McGregor British Parts in Canada can supply you with a 
vinyl bag that is a exact reproduction of the original.  available 

It is made as an exact copy and is literlly the same piece of crap
that came with the cars. 

Oh the silly things we do in pursuit of a Concours Certificate.......... 

Cheers,

John 
 

---- Doug Altman <doug_altman at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Listers - Does anyone know of anyone who makes concours-acceptable original
> Bugeye toolbag replicas?  Doug    ....o~'o
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From davriker at nwi.net  Wed May 19 22:00:10 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:00:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat Belts
References: <738208.80129.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><882C68044DE9467594378006508F7B18@Home>
	<BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27A91649@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <C4CFDD63079B49DB9C92101EF10BC1B8@MAIN>

I bought replacement seat belts for my 1970 Ford Torino from Wesco.  I 
didn't like how the first set fit.  I called customer service and they were 
very helpful, and sent out a different set that worked much better.  The 
belts have been in the car about 5 years now, and the retractors still work 
well.  The black webbing has faded where exposed to the sun, but so has the 
black carpet that is in the back window.

They offer a specific 3 point retractable belt designed for roadsters.
http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/resebe.html

I would buy from them again.


David Riker
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Rae" <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>
To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>; "Skip Jackson" 
<jackson.skip at yahoo.com>; "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seat Belts


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 20 00:00:13 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 01:00:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
 Cellphone]
In-Reply-To: <835042.63863.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <835042.63863.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C2D478D5CDF94FAF89AD927F2B386378@HomePC>

One of my clients owns a business of freelance court reporters.  She said 
they call motorcycles "sui-cycles".  Hard to argue that point.  I stopped 
riding 2 years ago.  In the year before I quit, two friends were killed on 
bikes.  A very sobering reality.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:58 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New 
Cellphone]

--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> One night a group of bikers, (30 or so bikes), passed us on
> the interstate (I-84 in Hartford, CT) going roughly 100, in
> moderate traffic. Not very smart in my book.

Yes, but I have 2 friends who received liver donations as a result of 
motorcyclists; May is the best month in Illinois for organ donations.

I love to ride motorcycles, in many ways more than cars, and I have never 
ridden a boring motorcycle. 100 is fun, but so is 50 (35 on a scooter, for 
that matter). No need to speed.

Ron
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 20 01:28:15 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 02:28:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
 Cellphone]
In-Reply-To: <C2D478D5CDF94FAF89AD927F2B386378@HomePC>
References: <835042.63863.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C2D478D5CDF94FAF89AD927F2B386378@HomePC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikiyNBJs_pLKazNrjL-lKcLtCMa8nXAjVV42DWv@mail.gmail.com>

It's all a matter of how you approach riding. As I commented in Mike's post,
I have probably more motorcycle miles than I do cars. I will continue to do
so until I am unable to get my leg across the saddle. Long time
motorcyclists have all heard the "sui-cycles - murder-cycles" BS. It isn't
at all hard to argue against. I have atherosclerosis and have already had
one heart attack. Per:  http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/causes.html#data_usa
28.5% of deaths are due to heart disease. Only 4.4% of deaths are due to
accidents including cars, motorcycles and everything else. I'll take my
chances enjoying my motorcycles knowing that I am about 6.5 times more
likely to die from my heart condition than from my love of motorcycling.

It's all in how you look at it.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> One of my clients owns a business of freelance court reporters.  She said
> they call motorcycles "sui-cycles".  Hard to argue that point.  I stopped
> riding 2 years ago.  In the year before I quit, two friends were killed on
> bikes.  A very sobering reality.
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:58 PM
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
> Cellphone]
>
> --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> > One night a group of bikers, (30 or so bikes), passed us on
> > the interstate (I-84 in Hartford, CT) going roughly 100, in
> > moderate traffic. Not very smart in my book.
>
> Yes, but I have 2 friends who received liver donations as a result of
> motorcyclists; May is the best month in Illinois for organ donations.
>
> I love to ride motorcycles, in many ways more than cars, and I have never
> ridden a boring motorcycle. 100 is fun, but so is 50 (35 on a scooter, for
> that matter). No need to speed.
>
> Ron
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 20 04:37:55 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 05:37:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
 Cellphone]
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikiyNBJs_pLKazNrjL-lKcLtCMa8nXAjVV42DWv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <835042.63863.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C2D478D5CDF94FAF89AD927F2B386378@HomePC>
	<AANLkTikiyNBJs_pLKazNrjL-lKcLtCMa8nXAjVV42DWv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <108F30C5907A4E93A7C55DE16EA9C0EB@HomePC>

Ha!  Jim, living too long is 100% fatal.

LAD




From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:28 AM
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: Ron Soave ; Spridgets ; Jay
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
Cellphone]


It's all a matter of how you approach riding. As I commented in Mike's post, I
have probably more motorcycle miles than I do cars. I will continue to do so
until I am unable to get my leg across the saddle. Long time motorcyclists
have all heard the "sui-cycles - murder-cycles" BS. It isn't at all hard to
argue against. I have atherosclerosis and have already had one heart attack.
Per:  http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/causes.html#data_usa  28.5% of deaths are
due to heart disease. Only 4.4% of deaths are due to accidents including cars,
motorcycles and everything else. I'll take my chances enjoying my motorcycles
knowing that I am about 6.5 times more likely to die from my heart condition
than from my love of motorcycling.

It's all in how you look at it.

Cheers!!
Jim


On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

  One of my clients owns a business of freelance court reporters.  She said
  they call motorcycles "sui-cycles".  Hard to argue that point.  I stopped
  riding 2 years ago.  In the year before I quit, two friends were killed on
  bikes.  A very sobering reality.

  LAD

  --------------------------------------------------
  From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:58 PM
  To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>

  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] [Fwd: Fw: Her last call was from her New
  Cellphone]


  --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
  > One night a group of bikers, (30 or so bikes), passed us on
  > the interstate (I-84 in Hartford, CT) going roughly 100, in
  > moderate traffic. Not very smart in my book.

  Yes, but I have 2 friends who received liver donations as a result of
  motorcyclists; May is the best month in Illinois for organ donations.

  I love to ride motorcycles, in many ways more than cars, and I have never
  ridden a boring motorcycle. 100 is fun, but so is 50 (35 on a scooter, for
  that matter). No need to speed.

  Ron

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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame,
two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu May 20 09:42:51 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:42:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13505.1274312134.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13505.1274312134.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C96D@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

>In a message dated 19/05/2010 21:20:23 GMT Daylight Time,
cbking at alum.rpi.edu writes:

>In my  experience, there's not a whole lot of time for ducking, diving,
whatever,  during a rollover. BTDT, and >survived. The 3 point
retractable belts I  installed worked fine during the rollover, and
probably helped promote  >survival. IMO, a properly secured harness
would only  improve this.

Limited experience, but memorable...one of which led to my Thicko
moniker "Blunt Head Trauma"...
'65 Mercury Caliente 289 convertible and many years later my '68 Midget
vintage racer on the track...
I would not have survived the Mercury being held upright by a 5-point
harness; I would probably not have survived the Midget NOT being held
upright. The roll bar is an important deciding factor between the two.
In the absence of any sort of restraint, I don't think I would have
walked away from either. As for "a whole lot of time," to me, it all
seemed in slow motion and there was time to try to put out my hands to
stop the car from rolling, wonder if my wife would notice the scratched
paint, and even duck for the space under the dash where the console was.
(Boy, those 60's Detroit radio knobs are SHARP instruments!)
--JohnD

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu May 20 10:59:20 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:59:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
Message-ID: <ffe07.3b0086ca.3926c468@aol.com>

That's a valid point.
 
With a roll bar should go roll bar padding (FIA padding is best).  In  a 
foward impact not wearing a helmet and having a roll bar without  padding 
won't vary a great deal whatever type of harness or seat belt you  have except 
perhaps for a pure lap strap which is possibly the worst.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
 
In a message dated 19/05/2010 23:12:57 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

On the  other hand, if you aren't wearing a helmet, a roll bar provides a 
really  nice, hard surface to bounce your head off  of.

LAD

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu May 20 12:38:08 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 18:38:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C96D@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <mailman.13505.1274312134.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>,
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C96D@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w49411AD14F68B462796177B8E30@phx.gbl>

> wonder if my wife would notice the scratched paintYou have a mind like mine.
:)
'70's Datsuns were no prize either in the heater control department.  I was a
passenger in ( I think ) a 210 when it went cross country and took on a tree.
No seatbelt as "it wasn't required by law to wear a belt when in the back
seat".  I took out the dome light with my scalp on the way past and then took
out the heater controls with my face, or perhaps better said that it took out
my face, before I bounced back into the back seat.  The guys wearing the
seatbelts up front fared much better.

Robert D




> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:42:51 -0400
> From: John.Deikis at va.gov
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses
>
> >In a message dated 19/05/2010 21:20:23 GMT Daylight Time,
> cbking at alum.rpi.edu writes:
>
> >In my  experience, there's not a whole lot of time for ducking, diving,
> whatever,  during a rollover. BTDT, and >survived. The 3 point
> retractable belts I  installed worked fine during the rollover, and
> probably helped promote  >survival. IMO, a properly secured harness
> would only  improve this.
>
> Limited experience, but memorable...one of which led to my Thicko
> moniker "Blunt Head Trauma"...
> '65 Mercury Caliente 289 convertible and many years later my '68 Midget
> vintage racer on the track...
> I would not have survived the Mercury being held upright by a 5-point
> harness; I would probably not have survived the Midget NOT being held
> upright. The roll bar is an important deciding factor between the two.
> In the absence of any sort of restraint, I don't think I would have
> walked away from either. As for "a whole lot of time," to me, it all
> seemed in slow motion and there was time to try to put out my hands to
> stop the car from rolling, wonder if my wife would notice the scratched
> paint, and even duck for the space under the dash where the console was.
> (Boy, those 60's Detroit radio knobs are SHARP instruments!)
> --JohnD

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu May 20 12:43:29 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:43:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bikes at Speed
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZfZqFRL2Gd_LG441ct_N_26UpjSbfPQ2vQ2wd@mail.gmail.com>

Only two times did I take my 1550cc Road King up to 100. .  and that in
front of Mono Lake in Ca where there was no one around but my buddies riding
behind me.

Every summer we would ride from the top of Tahoe down the West side, out on
to 395 by Mono Lake and up into Yosemite, back side of the park through the
tunnels up to Glacier Point.  Five hundred mile day.  By the time I finally
got home I didn't care if I ever rode again.

Question for the list. .

I ran into a guy today who used to have a 64 Sprite.  He told me that he
would break his rear axles.  I told him that I have never had that problem.
He said that he was hard on his car and that if you hit the rear down at an
angle they are likely to snap at the ends.

Is this fairly common with our cars or was this guy a maniac of some sort
really pushing his car too hard on bumpy surfaces?

I was not aware that this is a potential weak point?

Kirk

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu May 20 12:54:03 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 18:54:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>

Are we this much in love with our cars?



http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Thu May 20 14:08:05 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:08:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil5qZiLXO-ml1kenIPlAWhkjYgldbHVsD2fUbB6@mail.gmail.com>

Well, three out of four isn't bad.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Are we this much in love with our cars?
>
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 20 14:18:09 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:18:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E9D256445C704285AECA93CC842D78EF@HomePC>

RD, I do like my cars a lot and I'm not a fan of junk food, but give up sex 
before my car?  Why?  Aren't you Canadians very good at it?  ;-)  Is that 
why the population of Canada is so much smaller than the U.S.?

Sorry, that was just too tempting.  ;-)

LAD
--------------------------------------------------
From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:54 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Healeys" 
<healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC

Are we this much in love with our cars?



http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu May 20 14:37:36 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:37:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bikes at Speed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZfZqFRL2Gd_LG441ct_N_26UpjSbfPQ2vQ2wd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZfZqFRL2Gd_LG441ct_N_26UpjSbfPQ2vQ2wd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BF59D90.9080903@comcast.net>

> Question for the list. .
>
> I ran into a guy today who used to have a 64 Sprite.  He told me that he
> would break his rear axles.  I told him that I have never had that problem.
> He said that he was hard on his car and that if you hit the rear down at an
> angle they are likely to snap at the ends.
>
> Is this fairly common with our cars or was this guy a maniac of some sort
> really pushing his car too hard on bumpy surfaces?
>
> I was not aware that this is a potential weak point?
>

I have snapped about a 1/2 dozen over the years, my daughter snapped 2, 
my wife snapped 2, my son, so far, has not snapped any axles.
They are not a weak point if you drive like an old lady.
But a hole shot here or there will snap an axle.
I snapped one at an autocross, one leaving a gas station, the others 
were during my younger days and horsing around.
Wife was young then too, and horsing around, Daughter snapped hers in 
her 17th year.
I carry a spare axle in my Sprite strapped to the inner passenger wheel 
well just in case.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From denadave at ca.rr.com  Thu May 20 14:45:24 2010
From: denadave at ca.rr.com (Dena & David Vrba)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:45:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt thread size pillar to body
Message-ID: <74D1A20DC57842FB8AB74D4C6B24041F@vrbapc1>

Hi Listers,
Quick one.
What is the thread size of the bolts for pillar of  windscreen to body on a 
'62 sprite?
My best test is the bolts are 5/16" but not clear if they are UNF or BSF. 
My thread gauges tend to tell me they are 24's but a 5/16 - 24 die does not 
work well on a removed bolt.

UNF = unified fine  60 degree inc angle and 24 TPI
BSF = British Standard fine  55 degree inc angle and 22 TPI

David
Corona, CA
'62 Sprite MKII 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 20 14:48:03 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:48:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bikes at Speed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZfZqFRL2Gd_LG441ct_N_26UpjSbfPQ2vQ2wd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinZfZqFRL2Gd_LG441ct_N_26UpjSbfPQ2vQ2wd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik9R1nk5K8yDRcDzYBAEeMxM5WsEe-uWsPyMWXS@mail.gmail.com>

Kirk,

Half shaft breakage can be a problem but it is usually a torque (twisting)
breakage and most often at the splined end where it goes into the diff.
Others know more about this. I suspect it is due to the quality of the metal
in the half shaft. I broke two of them on my 1946 MG TC back in the 60s. I
was told that the steel used wasn't up to snuff and one mechanic showed me
what he said was "crystalization" of the steel in the half shaft.

Anyway, point is, I doubt the comment about "hitting the rear end down".
Most of the failed ones I've seen happened when someone dumped the clutch
placing a sudden hard twist on the end of the half shaft in the diff. On the
busted ones you can actually even see the twist in the splined end.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Kirk Hargreaves
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Only two times did I take my 1550cc Road King up to 100. .  and that in
> front of Mono Lake in Ca where there was no one around but my buddies
> riding
> behind me.
>
> Every summer we would ride from the top of Tahoe down the West side, out on
> to 395 by Mono Lake and up into Yosemite, back side of the park through the
> tunnels up to Glacier Point.  Five hundred mile day.  By the time I finally
> got home I didn't care if I ever rode again.
>
> Question for the list. .
>
> I ran into a guy today who used to have a 64 Sprite.  He told me that he
> would break his rear axles.  I told him that I have never had that problem.
> He said that he was hard on his car and that if you hit the rear down at an
> angle they are likely to snap at the ends.
>
> Is this fairly common with our cars or was this guy a maniac of some sort
> really pushing his car too hard on bumpy surfaces?
>
> I was not aware that this is a potential weak point?
>
> Kirk
> _______________________________________________
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 20 14:53:10 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:53:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>

If you are, please use appropriate protection....

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Are we this much in love with our cars?
>
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
> _______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 15:01:01 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bikes at Speed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZfZqFRL2Gd_LG441ct_N_26UpjSbfPQ2vQ2wd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <989326.49684.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Major weak point discussed in great length in many places. Double bearing hubs
and aftermarket axle cottage industry is alive and well as a result.

Ron

--- On Thu, 5/20/10, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bikes at Speed
> To: jfishbein at snet.net
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 1:43 PM
> Only two times did I take my 1550cc
> Road King up to 100. .  and that in
> front of Mono Lake in Ca where there was no one around but
> my buddies riding
> behind me.
>
> Every summer we would ride from the top of Tahoe down the
> West side, out on
> to 395 by Mono Lake and up into Yosemite, back side of the
> park through the
> tunnels up to Glacier Point.  Five hundred mile
> day.  By the time I finally
> got home I didn't care if I ever rode again.
>
> Question for the list. .
>
> I ran into a guy today who used to have a 64 Sprite. 
> He told me that he
> would break his rear axles.  I told him that I have
> never had that problem.
> He said that he was hard on his car and that if you hit the
> rear down at an
> angle they are likely to snap at the ends.
>
> Is this fairly common with our cars or was this guy a
> maniac of some sort
> really pushing his car too hard on bumpy surfaces?
>
> I was not aware that this is a potential weak point?
>
> Kirk
> _______________________________________________
>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu May 20 15:32:33 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:32:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt thread size pillar to body
In-Reply-To: <74D1A20DC57842FB8AB74D4C6B24041F@vrbapc1>
References: <74D1A20DC57842FB8AB74D4C6B24041F@vrbapc1>
Message-ID: <4BF5AA71.4090809@comcast.net>

On 5/20/2010 4:45 PM, Dena & David Vrba wrote:
> Hi Listers,
> Quick one.
> What is the thread size of the bolts for pillar of windscreen to body on
> a '62 sprite?

They are 5/16 x 24 fine.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu May 20 15:39:42 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:39:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt thread size pillar to body
Message-ID: <59e58.9f3bf54.3927061e@aol.com>

UNC on a 69
 
In a message dated 20/05/2010 22:29:28 GMT Daylight Time,  
denadave at ca.rr.com writes:

Hi  Listers,
Quick one.
What is the thread size of the bolts for pillar  of  windscreen to body on 
a 
'62 sprite?
My best test is the bolts  are 5/16" but not clear if they are UNF or BSF. 
My thread gauges tend to  tell me they are 24's but a 5/16 - 24 die does 
not 
work well on a removed  bolt.

UNF = unified fine  60 degree inc angle and 24 TPI
BSF =  British Standard fine  55 degree inc angle and 22  TPI

David
Corona, CA
'62 Sprite MKII 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu May 20 16:15:42 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:15:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin8vKQW8g6chkd3Mkoa6pnE_0RnuAXhceNTc0rS@mail.gmail.com>

Just make sure your condoms are steel belted.....

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you are, please use appropriate protection....
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Are we this much in love with our cars?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
> > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu May 20 16:24:13 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:24:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator schematics/pin-outs
In-Reply-To: <001e01caf6f9$59077130$0b165390$@rr.com>
References: <586595933.20100423173918@pacifier.com>
	<FC9A1735-88A6-470A-BC1B-679BBD4732BC@gmail.com>
	<001e01caf6f9$59077130$0b165390$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <4BF5B68D.80205@wi.net>

Chris,

All my parts books only go up to HAN9 (GAN4).  You need a GAN5 diagram.  
Anyone?
Am I correct in remembering and alternator charged car uses a smaller 
drive pulley??

Dave W.
59 :{) AN5


Chris Manuel wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> My current books don't reach out past '67 or so.  The '72 or '73 1275 I'm
> trying to fit in came with an alternator but without wiring.  Anyone have a
> diagram?  
>
> Bonus points for an extra plug I can splice in?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> 66 MKIII formerly a 1098

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 20 17:54:57 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 18:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator schematics/pin-outs
In-Reply-To: <4BF5B68D.80205@wi.net>
References: <586595933.20100423173918@pacifier.com><FC9A1735-88A6-470A-BC1B-679BBD4732BC@gmail.com><001e01caf6f9$59077130$0b165390$@rr.com>
	<4BF5B68D.80205@wi.net>
Message-ID: <B5363A34399D4A43B5200E909DBD6865@HomePC>

Chris, I have a copy of Bentley including 1967 to 1974.  It has all of the 
diagrams.  I'll bring it along Sunday to see if it has what you need.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Woerpel" <dwoerpel at wi.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:24 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternator schematics/pin-outs

Chris,

All my parts books only go up to HAN9 (GAN4).  You need a GAN5 diagram.
Anyone?
Am I correct in remembering and alternator charged car uses a smaller
drive pulley??

Dave W.
59 :{) AN5


Chris Manuel wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> My current books don't reach out past '67 or so.  The '72 or '73 1275 I'm
> trying to fit in came with an alternator but without wiring.  Anyone have 
> a
> diagram?
>
> Bonus points for an extra plug I can splice in?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> 66 MKIII formerly a 1098
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu May 20 20:25:39 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 21:25:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator schematics/pin-outs
In-Reply-To: <4BF5B68D.80205@wi.net>
References: <586595933.20100423173918@pacifier.com>
	<FC9A1735-88A6-470A-BC1B-679BBD4732BC@gmail.com>
	<001e01caf6f9$59077130$0b165390$@rr.com> <4BF5B68D.80205@wi.net>
Message-ID: <000901caf88c$e7f1e4e0$b7d5aea0$@rr.com>

Thanks-

I got the color codes, but I can't find any markings on the actual connector
"blades" on the alternator, and all 3 look like the same size.
Just to clarify, I think it's the original alternator that came with this
engine.  It's a post '72 12V/671Z/L9922

It seems I have a historical problem with charging systems, but this should
take care of it :) 

I'll post a photo later, might make more sense to someone.

Thanks
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Woerpel
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:24 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternator schematics/pin-outs

Chris,

All my parts books only go up to HAN9 (GAN4).  You need a GAN5 diagram.  
Anyone?
Am I correct in remembering and alternator charged car uses a smaller 
drive pulley??

Dave W.
59 :{) AN5


Chris Manuel wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> My current books don't reach out past '67 or so.  The '72 or '73 1275 I'm
> trying to fit in came with an alternator but without wiring.  Anyone have
a
> diagram?  
>
> Bonus points for an extra plug I can splice in?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> 66 MKIII formerly a 1098

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 21 04:06:58 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 06:06:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
Message-ID: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>

Listers,
I want to thank everyone for all the suggestions regarding my little Sprite
fuel/battery/starter problem.

Update is I finally bought a much needed large battery charger from Sears
and the battery is only at 12.4 or 12.5 I don't recall. From reading the
details about batteries I should be at 12.7 volts for 100% I should have had
a slow charger on the battery all winter and this little car has not had a
lot of love in the last few years so it is time to give her much needed
parts and service and that means a new battery to start with.

I could ether go with another Interstate which I like but one of the replies
suggested the gel type as I recall something about their design being
superior. I see the gel types are about $200. and the Interstate $100. now I
don't use the car daily so maybe I should just stick with the Interstate and
put on a battery tender type of charger over winter or bring it in the
house. What are all of you doing for batteries?

Also yes it might be possible I also have a starter problem ( have a spare
good starter available thanks Frank) I will bring the battery to the
Interstate store (sometime next week as I am still working late late nights
with the kids) and have it tested with a load. If they say it is on the edge
I'll get one new battery. If I still have the same sounds like a dead
battery or near dead battery I'm removing the starter and bench testing it.


Does this sound like a plan?

BTW My students & I have been working endless nights on their underwater
robot the prom is tonight and the competition is tomorrow at 6:30 AM. The
robot is not done (I hope this changes by end of day) and I am still
hopeful. This underwater robot competition has kept me from attending
Carlisle this year which I am bummed about so I hope they at least have it
fully working and earn some points. I haven't told the kids it is
interfering with my car show. Please all have a great time I hope it is a
DRY Day and get some photos : )

Linda & Pinky ; )

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 21 04:22:30 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 06:22:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT 3, First Call
In-Reply-To: <4BE17D85.16504.18B1B2@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <9CC01F5831AE4F339EEF872266EE5856@psych.washington.edu>
	<EBF3C70C008D43848F5D2466A4C8F24F@user8634b3d69b>
	<4BE17D85.16504.18B1B2@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZ3y2D-8uPqnxwmQFWIafyhPR0onYR85wZcwFD@mail.gmail.com>

Good Q & A I learned a lot : ) Please update so I can learn more.
Lin

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> You could tow it with the back wheels on the dolly...
>
> --
> Dave G.  KK7SS
> DN06ig
> '65 Sprite - work in progress
> '76 Midget - nearly ready
>
>
> On 5 May 2010 at 8:45, Guy R Day wrote:
>
> > Pull the drive shaft and you'll have gearbox oil in a trail from home
> _______________________________________________
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri May 21 05:08:31 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 06:08:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFcxvgGb8VYCwtnZnS8AAuQHGmI_a_u_7has1n@mail.gmail.com>

When you put your new battery in (or the old one for that matter) it would
be wise to have a large rubber pad between it, and your firewall panel. On
many Spridgets, you can see the hole in the humps on the firewall, where the
battery has sparked on the firewall where it bumps and arcs. I made a pad
that stood up 1 1/2" higher than my battery. I then used the battery hold
down clamps to keep the battery from moving, and the pad from staying in
place. Should you desire a photo of this, for reference, I'll try and get
you one today.

Brad

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Listers,
> I want to thank everyone for all the suggestions regarding my little Sprite
> fuel/battery/starter problem.
>
> Update is I finally bought a much needed large battery charger from Sears
> and the battery is only at 12.4 or 12.5 I don't recall. From reading the
> details about batteries I should be at 12.7 volts for 100% I should have
> had
> a slow charger on the battery all winter and this little car has not had a
> lot of love in the last few years so it is time to give her much needed
> parts and service and that means a new battery to start with.
>
> I could ether go with another Interstate which I like but one of the
> replies
> suggested the gel type as I recall something about their design being
> superior. I see the gel types are about $200. and the Interstate $100. now
> I
> don't use the car daily so maybe I should just stick with the Interstate
> and
> put on a battery tender type of charger over winter or bring it in the
> house. What are all of you doing for batteries?
>
> Also yes it might be possible I also have a starter problem ( have a spare
> good starter available thanks Frank) I will bring the battery to the
> Interstate store (sometime next week as I am still working late late nights
> with the kids) and have it tested with a load. If they say it is on the
> edge
> I'll get one new battery. If I still have the same sounds like a dead
> battery or near dead battery I'm removing the starter and bench testing it.
>
>
> Does this sound like a plan?
>
> BTW My students & I have been working endless nights on their underwater
> robot the prom is tonight and the competition is tomorrow at 6:30 AM. The
> robot is not done (I hope this changes by end of day) and I am still
> hopeful. This underwater robot competition has kept me from attending
> Carlisle this year which I am bummed about so I hope they at least have it
> fully working and earn some points. I haven't told the kids it is
> interfering with my car show. Please all have a great time I hope it is a
> DRY Day and get some photos : )
>
> Linda & Pinky ; )
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri May 21 06:33:09 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 08:33:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Axles
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13860.1274436359.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13860.1274436359.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W575588C0E1271EBE6A5903B7E40@phx.gbl>

Yup.  It's a weak spot on a lot of MG models.  As someone else has already
noted, it's usually a twist-break, not a stress "snap."  I have two TF axle
stubs that demonstrate that nicely, if you'd like to see them.



In my experience, the number one way to snap an MG axle is to let out the
clutch in a forward gear while rolling backwards.  Don't do it.  And guess
what?  Even if it doesn't break at that moment, it might just break two days
later.  I've also heard of people breaking axles spinning their tires on
pavement or gravel, and generally horsing around.



Although I don't doubt that the guy you ran into broke a rear axle when he hit
a pothole or whatnot, I would bet that the actual damage was done sometime
before he hit the bump.  I bought a parts Midget from a guy that swore the
differential was broken.  All he did, he said, was drive down the road and
turn around in a dirt parking lot.  From experience, I knew right away it was
a broken axle.  The break was probably started days before it actually broke.



I suppose, if you hit a bump hard enough while accelerating, you might get
enough wheel hop to twist the axle.   I don't know.



At any rate, if you treat your MG like a 30++ year old classic car, you can
still have fun without breaking an axle.  Or drive like a maniac and buy axles
every few years.  As someone else noted, there is a thriving cottage industry
producing axles, some with "competition grade" (whatever that is) hardened
steel.



-Mike Eldred

'54 MG TF

'73 Midget



> > I ran into a guy today who used to have a 64 Sprite. He told me that he
> > would break his rear axles. I told him that I have never had that
problem.
> > He said that he was hard on his car and that if you hit the rear down at
an
> > angle they are likely to snap at the ends.
> >
> > Is this fairly common with our cars or was this guy a maniac of some sort
> > really pushing his car too hard on bumpy surfaces?
> >
> > I was not aware that this is a potential weak point?



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From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri May 21 07:01:46 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 06:01:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Linda,

     I'm not sure about inflation, but the general rule that has
     applied, (for the past 40 years) is that it costs $1 a month for
     a battery. A three year costs $36, a 5 year costs $60. They're
     pro-rated, so that if they go bad you get re-imbursed. It's just
     a matter of how often you want to mess with it, and how much cash
     you have on hand when the time comes. This rule has applied since
     I bought my first battery for a 1964 Rambler, right on thru to
     the last one (a six year, five years ago) for the Sprite. I've
     been using Die-Hards from Sears. 


Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which you can die. 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 21 07:30:31 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 08:30:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Axles
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W575588C0E1271EBE6A5903B7E40@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.13860.1274436359.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<SNT124-W575588C0E1271EBE6A5903B7E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <732E10FC243E432C8CC09123E686E5B0@HomePC>

Would heat treating the axles be a good idea?  It has to be cheaper than 
buying competition axles for the guy who doesn't race, but doesn't baby his 
car, either.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mike Eldred" <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:33 AM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG Axles

Yup.  It's a weak spot on a lot of MG models.  As someone else has already
noted, it's usually a twist-break, not a stress "snap."  I have two TF axle
stubs that demonstrate that nicely, if you'd like to see them.



In my experience, the number one way to snap an MG axle is to let out the
clutch in a forward gear while rolling backwards.  Don't do it.  And guess
what?  Even if it doesn't break at that moment, it might just break two days
later.  I've also heard of people breaking axles spinning their tires on
pavement or gravel, and generally horsing around.



Although I don't doubt that the guy you ran into broke a rear axle when he 
hit
a pothole or whatnot, I would bet that the actual damage was done sometime
before he hit the bump.  I bought a parts Midget from a guy that swore the
differential was broken.  All he did, he said, was drive down the road and
turn around in a dirt parking lot.  From experience, I knew right away it 
was
a broken axle.  The break was probably started days before it actually 
broke.



I suppose, if you hit a bump hard enough while accelerating, you might get
enough wheel hop to twist the axle.   I don't know.



At any rate, if you treat your MG like a 30++ year old classic car, you can
still have fun without breaking an axle.  Or drive like a maniac and buy 
axles
every few years.  As someone else noted, there is a thriving cottage 
industry
producing axles, some with "competition grade" (whatever that is) hardened
steel.



-Mike Eldred

'54 MG TF

'73 Midget



> > I ran into a guy today who used to have a 64 Sprite. He told me that he
> > would break his rear axles. I told him that I have never had that
problem.
> > He said that he was hard on his car and that if you hit the rear down at
an
> > angle they are likely to snap at the ends.
> >
> > Is this fairly common with our cars or was this guy a maniac of some 
> > sort
> > really pushing his car too hard on bumpy surfaces?
> >
> > I was not aware that this is a potential weak point?



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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 21 09:34:44 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:34:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <E9D256445C704285AECA93CC842D78EF@HomePC>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>,
	<E9D256445C704285AECA93CC842D78EF@HomePC>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w116DB803CCEF4439F4958EB8E40@phx.gbl>

I, too, like my cars alot.
While it's not impossible to do without a car, in countries such as ours it's
not very practical to give them up completely.
I could give up TV almost completely without any pain.  Most "junk" food also;
but does Subway count as junk food?  I could almost do without credit cards
also.
I can't speak for the rest of the population, and I don't like to brag, so ...
I'll just say that ( The Meaning of Life ) I'm good enough at it that I don't
have to have a child each time.
So ... what they're talking about, is it like "give up the car for an hour and
then you can have sex for an hour?"

> From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
>
> RD, I do like my cars a lot and I'm not a fan of junk food, but give up sex
> before my car?  Why?  Aren't you Canadians very good at it?  ;-)  Is that
> why the population of Canada is so much smaller than the U.S.?
>
> Sorry, that was just too tempting.  ;-)
>
> LAD
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>
> Are we this much in love with our cars?
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
> _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 21 09:37:27 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:37:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>,
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w22F406112FD1E11D5FA2E6B8E40@phx.gbl>

I have "insurance".  :)

RD
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:53:10 -0500
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> If you are, please use appropriate protection....
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Are we this much in love with our cars?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
> > _______________________________________________

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri May 21 09:40:08 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:40:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] M-type
Message-ID: <SNT124-W56D18F4F38A5491F59FB2CB7E40@phx.gbl>

NFI, just one of those things you don't see on craigslist every day.



"for sale, a 1930 MG M-Type Boat-tail Speedster. This car is probably the only
example with its original motor in it. It has a 3 speed gearbox. It also has a
beautiful two-tone black/blue color scheme. It is fully functional and has had
a Show-Room-Quality Restoration."



http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/1750924751.html

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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 21 09:41:15 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:41:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8vKQW8g6chkd3Mkoa6pnE_0RnuAXhceNTc0rS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>,
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTin8vKQW8g6chkd3Mkoa6pnE_0RnuAXhceNTc0rS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w343DE966F0F0AF86F9E800B8E40@phx.gbl>

So, you're not biased.


> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:15:42 -0500
> From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> Just make sure your condoms are steel belted.....
>>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you are, please use appropriate protection....
> >
> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > Are we this much in love with our cars?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
> > > _______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri May 21 10:34:20 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:34:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
Message-ID: <44242.6e83c620.3928100c@aol.com>

Why?  Wouldn't it be nice to have some baby Spridgets?
 
In a message dated 20/05/2010 23:11:57 GMT Daylight Time,  
bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:

If you  are, please use appropriate protection....

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54  PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Are we this much in  love with our cars?
>
>
>
>  http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 21 10:59:55 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 16:59:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
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References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>, ,
	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>, ,
	<AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>, ,
	<AANLkTin8vKQW8g6chkd3Mkoa6pnE_0RnuAXhceNTc0rS@mail.gmail.com>,
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King of hindsight here ...
What I should have said was: "I have a bias for older cars!"
RD

> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:41:15 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
>
> So, you're not biased.
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:15:42 -0500
> > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
> >
> > Just make sure your condoms are steel belted.....
> >>
> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If you are, please use appropriate protection....
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are we this much in love with our cars?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html
> > > > _______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri May 21 12:15:21 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:15:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bikes at Speed
Message-ID: <AANLkTil47TEh-cdmGNa_2BFsQuilpmm98GKNVK1q3dUC@mail.gmail.com>

I dunno, never had my bike over about 65mph or so and that was only
the once, drafting a pickup truck down a Tennessee hill when I was
younger and even more foolish. Given the hills we have (or don't have)
in northeastern Illinois, I seldom pedal over 30mph these days. Heck,
I am even wearing a helmet now. This is Bike to Work Week, so I
pedaled to work in the rain this morning. Looks like it is saving up
to rain on me on the way home, too. Oh well, I had pretty good weather
the other three days that I pedaled this week. Still riding the same
old Raleigh Grand Prix I had in TN.
David L

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 21 12:40:04 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:40:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
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References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B02DD7617@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>,
	,	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>, ,
	<AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>, ,
	<AANLkTin8vKQW8g6chkd3Mkoa6pnE_0RnuAXhceNTc0rS@mail.gmail.com>,
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<< What I should have said was: "I have a bias for older cars!" >>

Either way RD, just shows/proves you ARE skewed !!

<VBEG>!!

Anon

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri May 21 12:59:45 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:59:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] M-type
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W56D18F4F38A5491F59FB2CB7E40@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W56D18F4F38A5491F59FB2CB7E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim2QEy8SCiaq5aBot6fOfVxYWNUQ1dc5Kl6Vtqs@mail.gmail.com>

Haven't seen an M-type since 1969...  From the looks of it, it is worth
every dime he's asking. I wonder if it is a trailer queen....

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:

> NFI, just one of those things you don't see on craigslist every day.
>
>
>
> "for sale, a 1930 MG M-Type Boat-tail Speedster. This car is probably the
> only
> example with its original motor in it. It has a 3 speed gearbox. It also
> has a
> beautiful two-tone black/blue color scheme. It is fully functional and has
> had
> a Show-Room-Quality Restoration."
>
>
>
> http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/1750924751.html
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri May 21 13:04:02 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:04:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
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Message-ID: <AANLkTilBa0yoibM-K3xc-I7uGpuQ2Qe1szoM7hwOJGXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Not if it means they are a cross between a Spridget and most of the guys I
know that own one....  That brings a rather ugly picture to mind....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

>  Why?  Wouldn't it be nice to have some baby Spridgets?
>
> In a message dated 20/05/2010 23:11:57 GMT Daylight Time,
> bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:
>
> If you are, please use appropriate protection....
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Are we this much in love with our cars?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 21 13:09:20 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 19:09:20 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <44242.6e83c620.3928100c@aol.com>
References: <44242.6e83c620.3928100c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w1B38AF2DA2C0031A4B953B8E40@phx.gbl>

Yikes! An image of a cross between a spridget and a lister went through my
head.  I don't even want to think what it would behave like!!!



> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> Why?  Wouldn't it be nice to have some baby Spridgets?
>
> In a message dated 20/05/2010 23:11:57 GMT Daylight Time,
> bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:
>
> If you  are, please use appropriate protection....
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:54  PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Are we this much in  love with our cars?
> >
> >
> >
> >  http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/05/19/con-cars-survey.html

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri May 21 13:09:07 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:09:07 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
Message-ID: <7ade2.45686ed1.39283453@aol.com>

Spitfidget?
 
In a message dated 21/05/2010 20:04:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:

Not if  it means they are a cross between a Spridget and most of the guys I 
know that  own one....  That brings a rather ugly picture to  mind....

Cheers!!
Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 13:17:28 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:17:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Axles
In-Reply-To: <732E10FC243E432C8CC09123E686E5B0@HomePC>
Message-ID: <882195.8459.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Some guys who race have never broken one.

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG Axles
> To: "Mike Eldred" <redscirocco at hotmail.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 8:30 AM
> Would heat treating the axles be a
> good idea?  It has to be cheaper than
> buying competition axles for the guy who doesn't race, but
> doesn't baby his
> car, either.
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Mike Eldred" <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:33 AM
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG Axles
>
> Yup.  It's a weak spot on a lot of MG models.  As
> someone else has already
> noted, it's usually a twist-break, not a stress
> "snap."  I have two TF axle
> stubs that demonstrate that nicely, if you'd like to see
> them.
>
>
>
> In my experience, the number one way to snap an MG axle is
> to let out the
> clutch in a forward gear while rolling backwards. 
> Don't do it.  And guess
> what?  Even if it doesn't break at that moment, it
> might just break two days
> later.  I've also heard of people breaking axles
> spinning their tires on
> pavement or gravel, and generally horsing around.
>
>
>
> Although I don't doubt that the guy you ran into broke a
> rear axle when he
> hit
> a pothole or whatnot, I would bet that the actual damage
> was done sometime
> before he hit the bump.  I bought a parts Midget from
> a guy that swore the
> differential was broken.  All he did, he said, was
> drive down the road and
> turn around in a dirt parking lot.  From experience, I
> knew right away it
> was
> a broken axle.  The break was probably started days
> before it actually
> broke.
>
>
>
> I suppose, if you hit a bump hard enough while
> accelerating, you might get
> enough wheel hop to twist the axle.   I
> don't know.
>
>
>
> At any rate, if you treat your MG like a 30++ year old
> classic car, you can
> still have fun without breaking an axle.  Or drive
> like a maniac and buy
> axles
> every few years.  As someone else noted, there is a
> thriving cottage
> industry
> producing axles, some with "competition grade" (whatever
> that is) hardened
> steel.
>
>
>
> -Mike Eldred
>
> '54 MG TF
>
> '73 Midget
>
>
>
> > > I ran into a guy today who used to have a 64
> Sprite. He told me that he
> > > would break his rear axles. I told him that I
> have never had that
> problem.
> > > He said that he was hard on his car and that if
> you hit the rear down at
> an
> > > angle they are likely to snap at the ends.
> > >
> > > Is this fairly common with our cars or was this
> guy a maniac of some
> > > sort
> > > really pushing his car too hard on bumpy
> surfaces?
> > >
> > > I was not aware that this is a potential weak
> point?
>
>
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 21 13:29:31 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 19:29:31 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cars - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <4BF6D384.4010300@justbrits.com>
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	<BAY147-w1A2ABB3AAAFBF782C6A16B8E30@phx.gbl>,
	,,<AANLkTimXW7TMEJMSIqKVY7Yp7L56HQDMIb2vc0mG9zYl@mail.gmail.com>,
	, , <AANLkTin8vKQW8g6chkd3Mkoa6pnE_0RnuAXhceNTc0rS@mail.gmail.com>, ,
	<BAY147-w343DE966F0F0AF86F9E800B8E40@phx.gbl>,
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Was it ever in question?  :)

RD
> Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:40:04 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
>
> << What I should have said was: "I have a bias for older cars!" >>
>
> Either way RD, just shows/proves you ARE skewed !!
>
> <VBEG>!!
>
> Anon
> _______________________________________________

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 20:22:01 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 19:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
Message-ID: <924060.70782.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK, which one of you gun-toting, NRA member, Guns and Ammo type, right wing wacko is up for a free Russian Kalashnikov T-shirt, SZ L (Russian sizing).  You gotta love it!  I believe that you can't wear the T-shirt unless you've earned.  I don't know how the hell you can earn the right to wear this, but that's not my problem!  It's a really cool T if you can pull off wearing it!  Not my style.

Direct from Moscow.  First to respond gets it for shipping.... $5

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 22 00:59:00 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 00:59:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
In-Reply-To: <924060.70782.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I'd like to see a pic of it.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sat May 22 07:08:47 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 13:08:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedomiter cable
Message-ID: <767093878.27163311274533727463.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

so my speedomiter and odometer stopped working even though the cable was tight to the gauge. I pulled the cable out of the gauge and it spun but erasily slid out of the housing. so I pulled the whole thing out and found rust ( dusting ) on the cable where it bends. 
2 questions: 
1. what do I use to lube this ? regular grease or something better? 
2. the plastic nipple that stops just before the end that goes into the gauge is less than 1/2" from the edge of the cable. should this be farther back? 

thanks 
ryan 
no officer i don't know how fast I am going because my speedo cable is in the boot. 

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat May 22 07:48:19 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 08:48:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
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I"m game!

Lester


On May 21, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Edward Perez wrote:

> OK, which one of you gun-toting, NRA member, Guns and Ammo type, right wing
wacko is up for a free Russian Kalashnikov T-shirt, SZ L (Russian sizing).
You gotta love it!  I believe that you can't wear the T-shirt unless you've
earned.  I don't know how the hell you can earn the right to wear this, but
that's not my problem!  It's a really cool T if you can pull off wearing it!
Not my style.
>
> Direct from Moscow.  First to respond gets it for shipping.... $5
>
> Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 10:32:55 2010
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedomiter cable
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Ryan - Make sure the square end that goes into the transmission is not
slipping inside the speedo gear.  Sometimes the gear wears out and rounds out
in the hole that accepts the cable and you get a speedo that works sometimes,
and sometimes, under pressure, will not.  I had to solder some tin on two
sides of the square end of the cable so that it fit more snuggly in the speedo
gear.  Works great, now.  Doug    ....o~'o
To: spridgets
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:08:47 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] Speedomiter cable

so my speedomiter and odometer stopped working
even though the cable was tight to the gauge. I pulled the cable out of the
gauge and it spun but erasily slid out of the housing. so I pulled the whole
thing out and found rust ( dusting ) on the cable where it bends. 
2
questions: 
1. what do I use to lube this ? regular grease or something
better? 
2. the plastic nipple that stops just before the end that goes into
the gauge is less than 1/2" from the edge of the cable. should this be farther
back? 

thanks 
ryan 
no officer i don't know how fast I am going because my
speedo cable is in the boot. 
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 10:38:57 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 09:38:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinXolLHmBwdB1LpnKKi5KBYvfGODUMDUP0MMkRy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <270916.86675.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>From Russia
 
Does it have a picture of Obama on it?

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
To: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 11:59 PM


I'd like to see a pic of it.
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 11:05:29 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 10:05:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
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No comment... when I was there, the Russians sure showed no respect for him, that's for sure.  Can't blame them.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com" <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:38:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content


>From Russia
 
Does it have a picture of Obama on it?

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:


>From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
>To: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
>Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 11:59 PM
>
>
>I'd like to see a pic of it.
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May 22 11:24:45 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 10:24:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] foreign car sale in Tangent Oregon
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Here is the sale: I have no financial interest. .bill in corvallis


http://corvallis.craigslist.org/pts/1750674607.html

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat May 22 11:59:24 2010
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 17:59:24 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
Message-ID: <SNT144-ds12CE8A228F51BF213F6570C8E50@phx.gbl>

LOL.. :):).

"you can fool some of the people all of the  time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the tme".....and certainly not the genuine (and ex-KGB) article like Putin! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Perez
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 1:05 PM
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com, derf
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content

No comment... when I was there, the Russians sure showed no respect for him, that's for sure.  Can't blame them.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com" <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:38:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content


>From Russia
 
Does it have a picture of Obama on it?

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:


>From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Russian giveaway.. no LBC content
>To: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
>Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 11:59 PM
>
>
>I'd like to see a pic of it.
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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sat May 22 18:11:54 2010
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 20:11:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
Message-ID: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1>

    Well, reports are starting to come in about deals found and, as an
example, a sequence of intense negotiations to secure that OEM master cylinder
cap.

    No weather updates however, which means either it did not rain or Frank
didn't make it there - or both.

    Huh, no rain at Carlisle - what a concept!

    Regards,

                                                                        CB

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sat May 22 19:15:52 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 21:15:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
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On May 22, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Charley Braum wrote:

>     Well, reports are starting to come in about deals found and, as an
> example, a sequence of intense negotiations to secure that OEM  
> master cylinder
> cap.
>
>     No weather updates however, which means either it did not rain  
> or Frank
> didn't make it there - or both.

Charlie,

Frank made it and it did NOT rain!!!!

There were some very good deals found this year ;)

Kevin V.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat May 22 19:19:44 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 21:19:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1>
References: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1>
Message-ID: <EC44874873B845AE8249CC644B998B99@blackbox2>

It was gloomy when I left this morning, so I decided not to drive the 
Sprite to Carlilse.  

It rained lightly on the turnpike for about 5 minutes as I approached 
Carlilse.

It was fine the rest of the day with some gloomy clouds moving in about 5pm
when I left

In hindsight, I should have taken the Sprite.  The ride home would have been

especially nice.

I didn't see any fantastic deals, but I heard about some.
It seemed that the flea market was a little smaller than usual. I am told
vendors would like the Import show moved to another date to avoid this
seasonable rainfall.  

There was a reasonable turnout on the show field.




-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charley Braum
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 8:12 PM
To: Spridgets List
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update

    Well, reports are starting to come in about deals found and, as an
example, a sequence of intense negotiations to secure that OEM master
cylinder
cap.

    No weather updates however, which means either it did not rain or Frank
didn't make it there - or both.

    Huh, no rain at Carlisle - what a concept!

    Regards,

                                                                        CB
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat May 22 19:32:38 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 18:32:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Axel Snapping
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZ1HPoE7QyyDUKjB6fh6PKgXc1iD54WZTMqe8l@mail.gmail.com>

Wow. .  I had no idea that they snap as readily as they do.  I guess I am
"due" as I drive it hard day in and day out.

Thanks,

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat May 22 19:34:18 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 18:34:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Jim, Thanks
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-9LwmShGwd-xhvc1EPca1ueap5O1EUrxRig-x@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Thanks for the further info on how "they go snap."  Have not had this happen
yet, but I would guess I will be due for it somewhere down the road.

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat May 22 20:02:53 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 19:02:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pics of White Rubber Bumper Midget
Message-ID: <AANLkTim5toSgSmUlDRRmB7iWF5A_x5Kd7Qu5hRZRoPgQ@mail.gmail.com>

Edward,


I just clicked on your Flicker shots of the Midget. .

Nice looking car!  Did you lower it (if I recall correctly, they came from
the factory raised up by around 2 inches)?


Kirk
59 1275

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat May 22 20:09:16 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 19:09:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Speedo Cable
Message-ID: <AANLkTilQZUFhx-o1w6z7fH3N1Gjza-DvZ_z98QaIxQQs@mail.gmail.com>

When I changed out the smooth case to a rib case I lost my speedo.  The
cable will turn the speedo when attached to an electric drill. .  but does
not want to "shake hands" with the gear box.   It is tightened in as far as
it will go.

So I would take from this that I need a different cable, ie. one that will
match the rib case gear box. .  and also match the back of the speedo dial.


I guess that the smooth case cables had a different engagement situation as
they are screwed into the gear box compared to the rib case.

Or.  . I could hook my cordless drill up to it and attach a vacuum line from
the engine to pull the variable speed trigger on the drill.  . and try to
dial it in so that it is as close as possible to the correct speed?
Probably be easier to replace the cable. .

Kirk
59 1275

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 22 20:24:56 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 22:24:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
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	<2CA49648-DB7C-4B76-B3BE-53B112855F47@gmail.com>
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On 5/22/2010 9:15 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:

> Frank made it and it did NOT rain!!!!
>
> There were some very good deals found this year ;)
>


Oh yes it did. I hit rain on crossing the Delaware but just a sprinkle.
But I did hit a downpour in Jersey 20 miles from home, enough for wipers 
but not enough to stop and put the top up.
But at least it rained for my Carlisle trip. I mean, it is tradition, I 
missed one year in the past 22 years that I have been going, it rained 
21 of those years.
It did NOT rain the year I was in England and at the Beaulea swap meet, 
but let me tell you it rained like hell when I was there, but not in 
Carlisle.
It must be me.

As for deals, I always find deals.
Original SU carb kits, complete with everything $5 each.
Complete front end rubber kit (NOS) Quinten Hazell $5 each, I have 2.
And of course the usual $1 rotors, flashers, accell cables, and the 
normal deals.
Kevin can vouch for the Vandervell engine bearings at $10 a set too.
Seems like there was quite a bit of Kingsborne stuff there this year too.
And we found all these deals AFTER Tony Benetto was there for a full day 
and a half and scarfed up all the engines, trannys, and diffs.

Lots a faces from the list, we met several for lunch today.
Great place, great people, and lots of parts, what else is there?
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun May 23 08:57:34 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:57:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
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Listers,
Interesting thoughts now I just realized I have to remember which post
direction I need if I replace it. When I first purchased Pinky in 06 Frank
did his magic and made her a Negative Ground I do not remember what he did,
Frank can your refresh my memory and explain how that works? I would imagine
I would pick up a battery with the terminals in the same location.

I have a huge hole of rust in the battery location on Pinky's body that I
need to weld in a piece of sheet metal but before I can get to that job over
the summer I'm going to put in a piece of wood. I never want that to happen
again so I also want to put in a battery box like the marine type I see at
the marine stores and one I saw at Pep Boys last week. I need to take a few
measurements for that but I am thinking I may make one out of
Lexan/Plexyglass as I teach my students how to cut, bend and weld plastics
at my school. I have sealed around 300 aquariums for my kids with ZERO leaks
(I am so proud of that)  I use Aquarium silicone as it will not harm marine
life. So will that silicone be OK if acids get on it? Yes I am aware of the
boxes LBC vendors sell but I am sure they are over priced marine boxes.
Perhaps I should make a few boxes and test battery acid on the seals? I use
a lexan/plexy adhesive on the plastic to melt them together and then the
aquarium clear silicone for leaks and stability.
Thoughts?

Lin

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Listers,
> I want to thank everyone for all the suggestions regarding my little Sprite
> fuel/battery/starter problem.
>
> Update is I finally bought a much needed large battery charger from Sears
> and the battery is only at 12.4 or 12.5 I don't recall. From reading the
> details about batteries I should be at 12.7 volts for 100% I should have had
> a slow charger on the battery all winter and this little car has not had a
> lot of love in the last few years so it is time to give her much needed
> parts and service and that means a new battery to start with.
>
> I could ether go with another Interstate which I like but one of the
> replies suggested the gel type as I recall something about their design
> being superior. I see the gel types are about $200. and the Interstate $100.
> now I don't use the car daily so maybe I should just stick with the
> Interstate and put on a battery tender type of charger over winter or bring
> it in the house. What are all of you doing for batteries?
>
> Also yes it might be possible I also have a starter problem ( have a spare
> good starter available thanks Frank) I will bring the battery to the
> Interstate store (sometime next week as I am still working late late nights
> with the kids) and have it tested with a load. If they say it is on the edge
> I'll get one new battery. If I still have the same sounds like a dead
> battery or near dead battery I'm removing the starter and bench testing it.
>
>
> Does this sound like a plan?
>
> BTW My students & I have been working endless nights on their underwater
> robot the prom is tonight and the competition is tomorrow at 6:30 AM. The
> robot is not done (I hope this changes by end of day) and I am still
> hopeful. This underwater robot competition has kept me from attending
> Carlisle this year which I am bummed about so I hope they at least have it
> fully working and earn some points. I haven't told the kids it is
> interfering with my car show. Please all have a great time I hope it is a
> DRY Day and get some photos : )
>
> Linda & Pinky ; )

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun May 23 09:31:16 2010
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:31:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Speedo Cable
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1968 on uses a shorter cable all others are the same.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Speedo Cable


> When I changed out the smooth case to a rib case I lost my speedo.  The
> cable will turn the speedo when attached to an electric drill. .  but does
> not want to "shake hands" with the gear box.   It is tightened in as far 
> as
> it will go.
>
> So I would take from this that I need a different cable, ie. one that will
> match the rib case gear box. .  and also match the back of the speedo 
> dial.
>
>
> I guess that the smooth case cables had a different engagement situation 
> as
> they are screwed into the gear box compared to the rib case.
>
> Or.  . I could hook my cordless drill up to it and attach a vacuum line 
> from
> the engine to pull the variable speed trigger on the drill.  . and try to
> dial it in so that it is as close as possible to the correct speed?
> Probably be easier to replace the cable. .
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun May 23 09:41:16 2010
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:41:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedomiter cable
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Actually the cable can slip in along side the spedo gear part that it is 
supose to fit into. Guess how I know that.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Altman" <doug_altman at yahoo.com>
To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>; "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedomiter cable


> Ryan - Make sure the square end that goes into the transmission is not
> slipping inside the speedo gear.  Sometimes the gear wears out and rounds 
> out
> in the hole that accepts the cable and you get a speedo that works 
> sometimes,
> and sometimes, under pressure, will not.  I had to solder some tin on two
> sides of the square end of the cable so that it fit more snuggly in the 
> speedo
> gear.  Works great, now.  Doug    ....o~'o
> To: spridgets
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:08:47 AM
> Subject:
> [Spridgets] Speedomiter cable
>
> so my speedomiter and odometer stopped working
> even though the cable was tight to the gauge. I pulled the cable out of 
> the
> gauge and it spun but erasily slid out of the housing. so I pulled the 
> whole
> thing out and found rust ( dusting ) on the cable where it bends.
> 2
> questions:
> 1. what do I use to lube this ? regular grease or something
> better?
> 2. the plastic nipple that stops just before the end that goes into
> the gauge is less than 1/2" from the edge of the cable. should this be 
> farther
> back?
>
> thanks
> ryan
> no officer i don't know how fast I am going because my
> speedo cable is in the boot.
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From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Sun May 23 09:50:17 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 11:50:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
References: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1><2CA49648-DB7C-4B76-B3BE-53B112855F47@gmail.com>
	<4BF891F8.2030004@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <324CAE3416BA4BE5A107C1DFB27C2FE5@MAINCOMPUTER>

We hit rain most of the way home on Saturday afternoon. It was my first 
Carlisle but I thought pretty impressive (Didn't care much for the
polka music though, no offense.). Coors light in the back of the truck came 
in handy.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Kevin Valentine" <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update


> On 5/22/2010 9:15 PM, Kevin Valentine wrote:
>
>> Frank made it and it did NOT rain!!!!
>>
>> There were some very good deals found this year ;)
>>
>
>
> Oh yes it did. I hit rain on crossing the Delaware but just a sprinkle.
> But I did hit a downpour in Jersey 20 miles from home, enough for wipers
> but not enough to stop and put the top up.
> But at least it rained for my Carlisle trip. I mean, it is tradition, I
> missed one year in the past 22 years that I have been going, it rained
> 21 of those years.
> It did NOT rain the year I was in England and at the Beaulea swap meet,
> but let me tell you it rained like hell when I was there, but not in
> Carlisle.
> It must be me.
>
> As for deals, I always find deals.
> Original SU carb kits, complete with everything $5 each.
> Complete front end rubber kit (NOS) Quinten Hazell $5 each, I have 2.
> And of course the usual $1 rotors, flashers, accell cables, and the
> normal deals.
> Kevin can vouch for the Vandervell engine bearings at $10 a set too.
> Seems like there was quite a bit of Kingsborne stuff there this year too.
> And we found all these deals AFTER Tony Benetto was there for a full day
> and a half and scarfed up all the engines, trannys, and diffs.
>
> Lots a faces from the list, we met several for lunch today.
> Great place, great people, and lots of parts, what else is there?
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun May 23 15:34:43 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 16:34:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BF99F73.8010508@justbrits.com>

<< So will that silicone be OK if acids get on it? >>

Normally I wouldn't even bother with a dumb-a**ed question
like like this, but YOU being a "teacher" demands one.

Take TWO [2] pieces of the proposed material [could be of
any size] and using your silicrap glue together.  In one place
[I would use a glass pipette or glass eye-dropper] and put
a couple drops of fluid FROM a battery AND some FRESH
battery on the 'joint'.

Re-visit the piece as needed over a week or so.

Methinks the "experiment" with be self-explanatory !?!

'Course I am NOT a teacher [Certified or otherwise].

Ed

PS:  Has THINKING 'died' with out current "teachers"??
PPS:  <sigh>

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sun May 23 15:48:27 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 17:48:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <324CAE3416BA4BE5A107C1DFB27C2FE5@MAINCOMPUTER>
References: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1><2CA49648-DB7C-4B76-B3BE-53B112855F47@gmail.com>
	<4BF891F8.2030004@comcast.net>
	<324CAE3416BA4BE5A107C1DFB27C2FE5@MAINCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <46386D9F-632D-40BF-8864-FED39A7B1D09@gmail.com>

All,

Just go back from Carlisle (Sunday).  The giveaway car was won by a  
local (Carlisle) guy who had the 1st ticket pulled.

It rained hard on the way down this morning (81 south) but the rain  
held off at Carlisle.  The drive home was rainless ;)

Tony was still there trying to figure out wether or not all the stuff  
he bought would fit in the container for shipment back to  
Australia.   All the vendors were gone when I got there at Noon.

Frank, I told Tony we are going to hog-tie him to a chair until noon  
Saturday next year so we have a shot at some of the NOS stuff before  
he gets it all ;)

Kevin V.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sun May 23 16:38:53 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:38:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] more speedometer fun!
Message-ID: <1627765095.27513561274654333813.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

So i hit the cable with liberal amounts of graphite and reinstalled it and snugged it back into its gauge. the speedo works fairly well at speeds under 30 but when the car is shifted into 3rd and DRIVEN.....i can do 110+ in 3rd gear! somehow this doesn't seem correct (although if it was real would be lots o fun!). 
I pulled the cable out of the gauge and used my finger to see how it was working and all seemed well. Any ideas as to what is the cause or how to fix? This will be my 2nd speedo in 3 years. 
thanks 
ryan 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun May 23 16:58:25 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 17:58:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motorcycle wiring question
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>

Could anyone offer suggestions on where I could find the starting circuit on
a 87 Kawasaki 600 Ninja?

Thanks

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 23 18:29:05 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:29:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <4BF99F73.8010508@justbrits.com>
References: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BF99F73.8010508@justbrits.com>
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--------------------------------------------------
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 4:34 PM
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pinky Update

<< So will that silicone be OK if acids get on it? >>

Normally I wouldn't even bother with a dumb-a**ed question
like like this, but YOU being a "teacher" demands one.

Take TWO [2] pieces of the proposed material [could be of
any size] and using your silicrap glue together.  In one place
[I would use a glass pipette or glass eye-dropper] and put
a couple drops of fluid FROM a battery AND some FRESH
battery on the 'joint'.

Re-visit the piece as needed over a week or so.

Methinks the "experiment" with be self-explanatory !?!

'Course I am NOT a teacher [Certified or otherwise].

Ed

PS:  Has THINKING 'died' with out current "teachers"??
PPS:  <sigh>
_______________________________________________


Wait, Ed.  You definitely are "certified".

Anon 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 19:01:41 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 18:01:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <932353D849DF4ADA814E063400CF24B9@HomePC>
Message-ID: <193060.6207.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I recently checked up on a long time list member who quit recently afer 11
years because of attacks like this. It has no place on this list. But since
we're attacking, let's break down Ed's response for a credibility check:

>
Normally I wouldn't even bother with a dumb-a**ed question
> like like this,
but YOU being a "teacher" demands one.

This is grammatically incorrect. "Like
like" is redundant. Also, "demands one" what? In the context of your sentence,
"demands one" would indicate it demands a "dumb-a**ed question."

> In
> one
place
> [I would use a glass pipette or glass eye-dropper] and put
> a couple
drops of fluid FROM a battery AND some FRESH
> battery on the 'joint'.

Again,
this is not grammatically correct. Take out the parentheses and you would have
"In one place and put a couple drops of fluid." There are some words missing
here. The part about "FROM a battery and some FRESH battery" doesn't make
sense either.

> Methinks the "experiment" with be self-explanatory !?!

"WITH
be self-explanatory?" Again, "with be" seems to be Vicodin or beer-soaked as
well.

> PS:  Has THINKING 'died' with out current
> "teachers"??

What does
"died with out" mean? Is this an extra word from one of the earlier incoherent
sentences?

If you're gonna be an asshole, at least get the grammar right.
Ron

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May 23 19:05:44 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:05:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BF9D0E8.5030708@comcast.net>

The original batter had the posts near the firewall, this is why many 
firewalls have the same rusted out hole near the battery posts.
Get a battery with the positive on the outboard side and on the left.
This will keep the posts away from the firewall and will be correct for 
your Sprite now that is is negative ground.
Group 24 is the size. No need for a box if you get the battery with the 
posts away from the wall.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May 23 19:11:14 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:11:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] more speedometer fun!
In-Reply-To: <1627765095.27513561274654333813.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1627765095.27513561274654333813.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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On 5/23/2010 6:38 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
> So i hit the cable with liberal amounts of graphite and reinstalled it and snugged it back into its gauge. the speedo works fairly well at speeds under 30 but when the car is shifted into 3rd and DRIVEN.....i can do 110+ in 3rd gear! somehow this doesn't seem correct (although if it was real would be lots o fun!).
> I pulled the cable out of the gauge and used my finger to see how it was working and all seemed well. Any ideas as to what is the cause or how to fix? This will be my 2nd speedo in 3 years.

I think your speedometer drive gear, the spiral inside the tranny, is 
slipping on the rear shaft.
Or the drive gear itself is shot.
I have both, the plastic drive is an easy fix, if it's the spiral inside 
the tranny, that is no fun.
Some transmission dis-assembly required.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May 23 19:28:42 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:28:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
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Brad,

Ain't it great to have a bunch of smart a$$ friends??   ;-)

Afraid you are going to have to spring for the manual...   I recommend the
Clymer as opposed to the Haynes.   *http://tinyurl.com/3agqog9*

I checked my usual suspects for Motorcycle online diagrams and they all want
money!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Could anyone offer suggestions on where I could find the starting circuit
> on
> a 87 Kawasaki 600 Ninja?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May 23 19:40:22 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:40:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <932353D849DF4ADA814E063400CF24B9@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>
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> From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
>

<snip>

>
> 'Course I am NOT a teacher [Certified or otherwise].
>

You're not a chemist either but clearly that doesn't stop you from playing
one on the internet....

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun May 23 19:51:32 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:51:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <4BF9D0E8.5030708@comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BF9D0E8.5030708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4EF31E16D37745BFA1346809CE47EA10@blackbox2>

The Optima batteries have the terminals well placed as Frank describes.
http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_products/redtop/index.php

They are very expensive but they are really good batteries.

I still like a tray.  I bought one from Autozone and cut it down to look
like the one that Moss sells.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Cc: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pinky Update

The original batter had the posts near the firewall, this is why many 
firewalls have the same rusted out hole near the battery posts.
Get a battery with the positive on the outboard side and on the left.
This will keep the posts away from the firewall and will be correct for 
your Sprite now that is is negative ground.
Group 24 is the size. No need for a box if you get the battery with the 
posts away from the wall.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May 23 19:58:46 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:58:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimssatQ_jCGJMeEJH6Nha5WxvaRCdqHSFrIka_0@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> Ain't it great to have a bunch of smart a$$ friends??   ;-)
>


I would think it is better than having a bunch of dumb a$$ friends.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 20:04:02 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:04:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wee-SHIT
Message-ID: <554679.45147.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

We had a miniature OSHIT at my house today with Dave Woerpel and Larry Daniels. It was a rousing success from my standpoint and I just wanted to shout-out to these guys for wastin...I mean, SPENDING their Sunday working on my race car and a few other Spritely endeavors. We spent a few hours tweaking the rear axle trying to overcome what appears to be an axle housing that came twisted from the factory! We got it as good as it can be (when I say "we", I pretty much mean Dave). Larry and I worked on a few other issues, and we added a Pertronix rev limiter, which seems to be working swimmingly. After a winter of slumber, White Trash roared to life after maybe 3 seconds of cranking. The motor seems wonderfully tight, and Peter C.'s field creation of a clutch pedal stop seems to have solved the Tilton clutch weirdness that we saw at Road America last fall. Blackhawk Farms in 3 weeks, NOW I'm really psyched.

After the work was done, Dave had some fun driving the BMW 328i I recently drove back from FL (my Mom's car), and I got my first seat time in a new Cooper S. Good stuff for both of us, I think. Dave also endured relentless salesmanship on my Alfa (it's a running joke). All in good fun.

Anyway, HUGE shout-out to the boys; sorry Chris Manuel could not make it (bummer about the radiator, dude!). Peter C. was living it up with Stix and Stones curling/golf outing, I believe, so he had some fun. Great weekend for it.

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun May 23 20:11:58 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:11:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <4BF9D0E8.5030708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C81F2E7E.27468%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

For the record...Moss sells a nice Spridget battery box that's too wide to
fit in a Spridget body.  

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun May 23 20:14:48 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:14:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikM-TK6CTMTTS8evU3gIr6F1FpwfXEURSSDzf8s@mail.gmail.com>

My brother has a wrecked bike, he just wants to get the starting circuit, so
that he can get it running, and then transfer it into a go cart frame.

Thank you sir!!

Brad

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brad,
>
> Ain't it great to have a bunch of smart a$$ friends??   ;-)
>
> Afraid you are going to have to spring for the manual...   I recommend the
> Clymer as opposed to the Haynes.   *http://tinyurl.com/3agqog9*
>
> I checked my usual suspects for Motorcycle online diagrams and they all
> want
> money!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Could anyone offer suggestions on where I could find the starting circuit
> > on
> > a 87 Kawasaki 600 Ninja?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > DON JULIO 1942
> >
> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> gn my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
> shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
>       John Adams
>       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun May 23 20:24:02 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:24:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <4EF31E16D37745BFA1346809CE47EA10@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <C81F3152.27472%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I'll get an Optima when they offer them in green or black.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun May 23 20:26:05 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:26:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimssatQ_jCGJMeEJH6Nha5WxvaRCdqHSFrIka_0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimssatQ_jCGJMeEJH6Nha5WxvaRCdqHSFrIka_0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96AD99186F2B4AA28805394DA106254B@spider>

Stop it; everyone, just stop it!  ...bill in corvallis
=============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:59 PM
To: Jim Johnson
Cc: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> Ain't it great to have a bunch of smart a$$ friends??   ;-)
>


I would think it is better than having a bunch of dumb a$$ friends.
_______________________________________________

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sun May 23 20:25:38 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:25:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.c om>
References: <AANLkTiluDBG1-purWhIqLHuRkkdfz7UItInI2z3-EpeO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinD597Z8mZHSHNNKt-z-Kr3_fqNG7hsyUy1SjNR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87d24a$8erg80@email.mtu.edu>

Linda,

Poke around this web site for answers about automotive silicons. 
http://www.dowcorning.com/content/auto/
You won't find fish tank info, but close. Buy their products. 
Michigan needs your $$$$.



Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun May 23 20:28:46 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 21:28:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimssatQ_jCGJMeEJH6Nha5WxvaRCdqHSFrIka_0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimssatQ_jCGJMeEJH6Nha5WxvaRCdqHSFrIka_0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJcM_e2-MCoy4oTkm-csNy_xPrYjjEm56glaQL@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW, I have some of both....

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Brad,
> >
> > Ain't it great to have a bunch of smart a$$ friends??   ;-)
> >
>
>
> I would think it is better than having a bunch of dumb a$$ friends.
> _______________________________________________
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May 23 20:31:13 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:31:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <C81F2E7E.27468%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C81F2E7E.27468%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4BF9E4F1.1080701@comcast.net>

On 5/23/2010 10:11 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:
> For the record...Moss sells a nice Spridget battery box that's too wide to
> fit in a Spridget body.

Come on now, you all know their policy.
*FILE TO FIT*	

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May 23 20:39:15 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:39:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikM-TK6CTMTTS8evU3gIr6F1FpwfXEURSSDzf8s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikM-TK6CTMTTS8evU3gIr6F1FpwfXEURSSDzf8s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilBW0yA3kwVsFzRbdAo2wj-3RA-R4IzJkBtqkBn@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> My brother has a wrecked bike, he just wants to get the starting circuit, so
> that he can get it running, and then transfer it into a go cart frame.
>

That is easy.  He should just bypass the probably neutral start
switch, and the kickstand switch, if it has either.
The starter should have a solenoid on it, like a Spridget, with one
big positive wire and one little start wire, or there will be a remote
solenoid (like an old Ford).
That bike is probably carbs and coils.  The kill switch probably
shorts the coil primaries to kill it.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May 23 20:42:04 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:42:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilBW0yA3kwVsFzRbdAo2wj-3RA-R4IzJkBtqkBn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikM-TK6CTMTTS8evU3gIr6F1FpwfXEURSSDzf8s@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilBW0yA3kwVsFzRbdAo2wj-3RA-R4IzJkBtqkBn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimc6KnG1QASHz6b8hh3tfUiB5yS0-3gHhohK-a0@mail.gmail.com>

Also, our local library has manuals and stuff.  You may have something
similar in your locale.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun May 23 21:14:38 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:14:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <C81F3152.27472%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <4EF31E16D37745BFA1346809CE47EA10@blackbox2>
	<C81F3152.27472%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinq-4iH1jrXu11clkDMrmaJGiDxIdX06mwCCWZ6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> I'll get an Optima when they offer them in green or black.
>
> Spray paint.
>

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite w/red Optima
56 BN2

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May 23 23:03:37 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 00:03:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikM-TK6CTMTTS8evU3gIr6F1FpwfXEURSSDzf8s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikM-TK6CTMTTS8evU3gIr6F1FpwfXEURSSDzf8s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8x5bVN74n4pCvvEPDMJGAVsSmsqatFGJg__8s@mail.gmail.com>

Cheezes, Brad...   That is one serious bad a$$ motor!  Put that in a go cart
and be DAMNED CAREFUL!!  That thing will do about 120 mph in the bike in
half that many seconds - probably about the same in a go cart. 0-60 probably
something like 20 seconds!!  Tell your brother to watch his butt or he may
be able to wring his butt out of the squeegie mop they use to clean up the
track with!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> My brother has a wrecked bike, he just wants to get the starting circuit,
> so
> that he can get it running, and then transfer it into a go cart frame.
>
> Thank you sir!!
>
> Brad

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May 23 23:05:04 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 00:05:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <C81F3152.27472%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <4EF31E16D37745BFA1346809CE47EA10@blackbox2>
	<C81F3152.27472%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilmtC1EVRJzMGu7rnwhJUDBDzhB36ivKX8grJlb@mail.gmail.com>

Billy...   They've got this new stuff out now....  It's called *paint*...
;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> I'll get an Optima when they offer them in green or black.
> _______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun May 23 23:14:57 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 22:14:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilmtC1EVRJzMGu7rnwhJUDBDzhB36ivKX8grJlb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C81F5961.2748E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> They've got this new stuff out now....  It's called *paint*...
I'm in Kalifornia. Paint is illegal.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon May 24 03:50:21 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 05:50:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <46386D9F-632D-40BF-8864-FED39A7B1D09@gmail.com>
References: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1>
	<2CA49648-DB7C-4B76-B3BE-53B112855F47@gmail.com>
	<4BF891F8.2030004@comcast.net>
	<324CAE3416BA4BE5A107C1DFB27C2FE5@MAINCOMPUTER>
	<46386D9F-632D-40BF-8864-FED39A7B1D09@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinW7fMmU8yXKmLPe-0jo5Xgq7E2NVzfLhOMTit-@mail.gmail.com>

OK now I really need to know who is Tony Benetto? Is he from Australia?
Lin

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:

> All,
>
> Just go back from Carlisle (Sunday).  The giveaway car was won by a local
> (Carlisle) guy who had the 1st ticket pulled.
>
> It rained hard on the way down this morning (81 south) but the rain held
> off at Carlisle.  The drive home was rainless ;)
>
> Tony was still there trying to figure out wether or not all the stuff he
> bought would fit in the container for shipment back to Australia.   All the
> vendors were gone when I got there at Noon.
>
> Frank, I told Tony we are going to hog-tie him to a chair until noon
> Saturday next year so we have a shot at some of the NOS stuff before he gets
> it all ;)
>
> Kevin V.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From nigel.hales at gmail.com  Mon May 24 05:08:28 2010
From: nigel.hales at gmail.com (Nigel Hales)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:08:28 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinW7fMmU8yXKmLPe-0jo5Xgq7E2NVzfLhOMTit-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1>
	<2CA49648-DB7C-4B76-B3BE-53B112855F47@gmail.com>
	<4BF891F8.2030004@comcast.net>
	<324CAE3416BA4BE5A107C1DFB27C2FE5@MAINCOMPUTER>
	<46386D9F-632D-40BF-8864-FED39A7B1D09@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinW7fMmU8yXKmLPe-0jo5Xgq7E2NVzfLhOMTit-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin-Em03WYFZ9DEhpMLyARoQbXD0AITI8Hk2AwSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bugeye Barn -  great place for all your spridget parts - at least here in
Aus.

http://www.bugeyebarn.com/html/s01_home/home.asp?dsb=1



On 24 May 2010 19:50, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK now I really need to know who is Tony Benetto? Is he from Australia?
> Lin
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Valentine
<kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Just go back from Carlisle (Sunday).  The giveaway car was won by a local
>> (Carlisle) guy who had the 1st ticket pulled.
>>
>> It rained hard on the way down this morning (81 south) but the rain held
>> off at Carlisle.  The drive home was rainless ;)
>>
>> Tony was still there trying to figure out wether or not all the stuff he
>> bought would fit in the container for shipment back to Australia.   All
the
>> vendors were gone when I got there at Noon.
>>
>> Frank, I told Tony we are going to hog-tie him to a chair until noon
>> Saturday next year so we have a shot at some of the NOS stuff before he
gets
>> it all ;)
>>
>> Kevin V.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From abcoz at hky.com  Mon May 24 05:11:41 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 07:11:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <46386D9F-632D-40BF-8864-FED39A7B1D09@gmail.com>
References: <68B747FE267446109EEC2D05C1485D06@universal1><2CA49648-DB7C-4B76-B3BE-53B112855F47@gmail.com><4BF891F8.2030004@comcast.net><324CAE3416BA4BE5A107C1DFB27C2FE5@MAINCOMPUTER>
	<46386D9F-632D-40BF-8864-FED39A7B1D09@gmail.com>
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I went back over to the show early Sunday morning.  It was raining pretty 
good by the time I left for Pittsburgh (around 9:15).  Running west on route 
641, we hit plenty of rain and didn't really get into the clear until just 
east of Breezewood (on route 30).  Thankfully, I was driving something that 
kept the rain completely out (it's of 1962 manufacture, from Germany), but 
my buddy in his TR4 shipped a fair amount of rain water.

My thoughts on the weekend are that it was too hot on Friday, pretty close 
to just right on Saturday and everyone needs to experience rain at 
Carlisle........I mean, it just ain't Carlisle unless it rains at least a 
little bit ;)

I heard a lot of complaints about the music (a live band).  Not that they 
were lousy, but more that they just made too damn much noise.  Being from 
Pittsburgh, I've long been de-sensitized to polka music......I don't even 
hear it most of the time it's playing.  But, no matter what kind of music is 
being played LOUDLY, it's gonna bother somebody.  I would never try to 
impose my favorite kind of music ("industrial strength" doo-wop, if you need 
to know.....hey, I told you I grew up in Pittsburgh) on others and I wish 
other people would extent the same courtesy (the SAAB group was particularly 
offensive, before the band kicked in) to me and the others attending.

I really miss the earlier days of the Import Carlisle swap meet, before the 
advent of eBay.  It's still pretty good, but it's slim pickins compared to 
what it was 10-15 years ago.

Bud Osbourne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Valentine" <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
To: "Jim Fournier" <jimndi at frontiernet.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update


> All,
>
> Just go back from Carlisle (Sunday).  The giveaway car was won by a  local 
> (Carlisle) guy who had the 1st ticket pulled.
>
> It rained hard on the way down this morning (81 south) but the rain  held 
> off at Carlisle.  The drive home was rainless ;)
>
> Tony was still there trying to figure out wether or not all the stuff  he 
> bought would fit in the container for shipment back to  Australia.   All 
> the vendors were gone when I got there at Noon.
>
> Frank, I told Tony we are going to hog-tie him to a chair until noon 
> Saturday next year so we have a shot at some of the NOS stuff before  he 
> gets it all ;)
>
> Kevin V.
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 24 07:07:58 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 07:07:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Motorcycle wiring question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8x5bVN74n4pCvvEPDMJGAVsSmsqatFGJg__8s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJSG7Ilth2wO7HIyVZRMYJECQi9nCwMzMLzH77@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindtCP4zcEJRNo5vWPin60s4vA2bCmzeuUXaB7G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikM-TK6CTMTTS8evU3gIr6F1FpwfXEURSSDzf8s@mail.gmail.com>
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Probably 0-60 in 4 or 5 seconds, or less.

Gixxer powered Odyssey:
http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/mcy/1756114596.html

Google "smart car hyabusa" for further enlightenment.

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 07:31:58 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 06:31:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
Message-ID: <324482.37331.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Check out the new web site where the owners describe all the details and show photos of some very well prepared cars. 
John
Fogelsville, PA
http://www.britishracecar.com/JohnMcCue-MG-Midget.htm

http://www.britishracecar.com/DerekChima-MG-Midget.htm

http://www.britishracecar.com/CraigChima-Ginetta-G4.htm

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 07:49:36 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 06:49:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <133A05918D3A4E00B067EB497C6F0EC6@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <257386.87824.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I had an enjoyable weekend at Carlisle. It was good to meet some more list
members and gather for lunch. Next year we must organize early to have a shot
at the best deals. I don't have any more room, and I am not looking for a car,
but I would have been back with my trailer for the $500 vintage Bugeye race
car that was scarfed up early Thursday.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

I really miss the earlier days of the Import Carlisle swap meet, before the
advent of eBay.  It's still pretty good, but it's slim pickins compared to
what it was 10-15 years ago.

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon May 24 09:27:31 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:27:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <257386.87824.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <257386.87824.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0303888288CE4ADDB8074948DBCEDDDE@OwnerPC>

John,
Ya gotta get there on Thursday for the really "primo" stuff ;)
I'm just glad I didn't bring a bigger car, or a truck this year.  Several 
times I caught myself looking at something and thinking "I'll offer the guy 
$xx.xx for that and I bet he'll take it, before my mind moved to the next 
step in the process: You're gonna get it home HOW?  Funny how you don't 
really need stuff that doesn't fit in what you happen to be driving that day 
;)
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update


>I had an enjoyable weekend at Carlisle. It was good to meet some more list
> members and gather for lunch. Next year we must organize early to have a 
> shot
> at the best deals. I don't have any more room, and I am not looking for a 
> car,
> but I would have been back with my trailer for the $500 vintage Bugeye 
> race
> car that was scarfed up early Thursday.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
> --- On Mon, 5/24/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
>
> I really miss the earlier days of the Import Carlisle swap meet, before 
> the
> advent of eBay.  It's still pretty good, but it's slim pickins compared to
> what it was 10-15 years ago.
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 09:38:43 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:38:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <0303888288CE4ADDB8074948DBCEDDDE@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <31945.29931.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For months I planned to transport one of Alan's fiberglass bonnets home on the
roof rack of my Ford Explorer. Little did I know how that odd shaped sail
would turn the Explorer into an ill handling piece of crap around 65-70 mph. I
can almost hear the exploder jokes already.
John
Fogelsville, PA


--- On Mon, 5/24/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
To: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:27 AM

John,
Ya gotta get there on Thursday for the really "primo" stuff ;)
I'm just glad I didn't bring a bigger car, or a truck this year.  Several
times I caught myself looking at something and thinking "I'll offer the guy
$xx.xx for that and I bet he'll take it, before my mind moved to the next step
in the process: You're gonna get it home HOW?  Funny how you don't really need
stuff that doesn't fit in what you happen to be driving that day ;)
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update


> I had an enjoyable weekend at Carlisle. It was good to meet some more list
> members and gather for lunch. Next year we must organize early to have a
shot
> at the best deals. I don't have any more room, and I am not looking for a
car,
> but I would have been back with my trailer for the $500 vintage Bugeye race
> car that was scarfed up early Thursday.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
> --- On Mon, 5/24/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
>
> I really miss the earlier days of the Import Carlisle swap meet, before the
> advent of eBay.  It's still pretty good, but it's slim pickins compared to
> what it was 10-15 years ago.
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 10:23:56 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <324482.37331.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <622449.77384.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I noticed a right & left switch for the fuel pump.
Is one a back up system or is he running two small tanks?
It was in one of the pictures on the second link.
I could not find where the meantioned the system.
 
Vigil

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 6:31 AM


Check out the new web site where the owners describe all the details and show
photos of some very well prepared cars.
John
Fogelsville, PA
http://www.britishracecar.com/JohnMcCue-MG-Midget.htm

http://www.britishracecar.com/DerekChima-MG-Midget.htm

http://www.britishracecar.com/CraigChima-Ginetta-G4.htm
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Mon May 24 10:33:04 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 16:33:04 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re:  Vintage Race Spridgets
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds1601A5CE084320A766DB3ED4E70@phx.gbl>

Great site! :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:23 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net, fastvee
Cc: Midget/Sprite, Sprite
Subject: [midgetsprite] Re: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets

I noticed a right & left switch for the fuel pump.
Is one a back up system or is he running two small tanks?
It was in one of the pictures on the second link.
I could not find where the meantioned the system.
o?=
Vigil

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 6:31 AM


Check out the new web site where the owners describe all the details and show
photos of some very well prepared cars.
John
Fogelsville, PA
http://www.britishracecar.com/JohnMcCue-MG-Midget.htm

http://www.britishracecar.com/DerekChima-MG-Midget.htm

http://www.britishracecar.com/CraigChima-Ginetta-G4.htm
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 10:47:03 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:47:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <622449.77384.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <358562.46976.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Vigil,
The second pump could be for redundancy, or he could be using two pickups in
the cell to prevent starvation in certain conditions. The pumps must be in
parallel because there is only one fuel line running up front to the
regulator. Back in those days there wasn't the variety of fuel cells that you
have today, and the ATL 8 Gal. Sport Cell was what most builders used.
John


--- On Mon, 5/24/10, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
wrote:

I noticed a right & left switch for the fuel pump.
Is one a back up system or
is he running two small tanks?
It was in one of the pictures on the second
link.
I could not find where the meantioned the system.
 
Vigil

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon May 24 11:01:26 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:01:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Show and Swap Meet the 23rd
Message-ID: <AANLkTimhh6LI9uxGzi6OTzpgY0OHr4V00eSzoYRItZJA@mail.gmail.com>

Did anyone on the list get to the show in Woodland yesterday the 23rd?

Nor Cal. .  Woodland show that used to be in Dixon. .  .

Good showing of cars?  Looked to be a bit less than the last time I was
there when in Dixon?

I brought my white English Bull Terrier..   English Dog and English cars
kind of look cool together.

All went well with the dog other than the long trail of crap he left as we
were walking in.  I had to find something to pick it all up.

The show is the only place where people come up to me and ID the dog as an
English Bully boy.  Other places, people just think he looks like a strange
animal and have no idea as to the breed.  Anteater dog, or, what is that?

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon May 24 11:21:21 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:21:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Illegal - How True and What a Hassle it Can Be
Message-ID: <AANLkTikzOSUFAywnxiPq7_uuN2B3V6SapvElgh3_LL4W@mail.gmail.com>

You hit that on the head.  Only California and Ohio have the strangest laws
regarding paint.  (So I have been told about Ohio)?

Yet there are some places where you can still get Acrylic enamel (in Sonora
for one).

And the urethane that you can still shoot is so robbed of the original
chemicals that depending on the color. .  it can be a real pain to shoot.

Guy brings me this Japanese Tele body, an Electra from the mid 1970's.
Wanted it in urethane for some reason (I shoot nitro 99% of the time that I
order on line).

Nice body, sandwiched woods like a Les Paul. .  mahogany and maple.

Next morning I come out to check the job and see nothing but dry river bed
type cracks all over it.  Bright white. . which shot like spackle no matter
how I thinned it or which reducer I tried.

Like a stubborn idiot I try to knock back the cracks only to lose opacity.
.  shoot it again to gain opacity and the cracks re-appear.

I ended up shooting it in acrylic lacquer (customer did not want to wait the
extended time for the nitro to dry).

It came out perfect. .  and the stuff was easy to use.  Glass surface after
cutting and buffing with my big guitar factory buffing wheels.

If I am not using nitro it is like walking in a mine field with the VOC
removals that have been going on (binders being the issue no doubt).

I have several colors in water based and when I use them I mix up my own
reducer (much less money).  I use alcohol in a pure water mix along with
liquid glycerin that I get from Fleet enemas. .  the glycerin works as a
binder.  It will not shoot correctly without the glycerin.

That with a touch of Windex and you have a fantastic reducer.  But all my
water based stuff is reserved for airbrush art as it is all in the
transparent realm.

So just after finally finishing this Tele I had to chime in regarding the
laws that have been enacted regarding finish materials here in Cali.
Fortunately you can still order nitro in small amounts on line. .  they
haven't got a hold of that "yet".

Kirk

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 11:40:59 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:40:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] more speedometer fun!
In-Reply-To: <4BF9D232.3030607@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <602634.60567.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This can also be caused by the wrong pin on either end. -
i have even seem Speedo's off because of to many twists in the driving cable.
At least i think that what was the problem. - i pulled it out and put the same
cable in.
The speedo stoped junping between a ten mile range & was smooth again..
I have also seen the gears on either end bad causing problems.
 
Vigil

--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] more speedometer fun!
To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:11 PM


On 5/23/2010 6:38 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
> So i hit the cable with liberal amounts of graphite and reinstalled it and
snugged it back into its gauge. the speedo works fairly well at speeds under
30 but when the car is shifted into 3rd and DRIVEN.....i can do 110+ in 3rd
gear! somehow this doesn't seem correct (although if it was real would be lots
o fun!).
> I pulled the cable out of the gauge and used my finger to see how it was
working and all seemed well. Any ideas as to what is the cause or how to fix?
This will be my 2nd speedo in 3 years.

I think your speedometer drive gear, the spiral inside the tranny, is slipping
on the rear shaft.
Or the drive gear itself is shot.
I have both, the plastic drive is an easy fix, if it's the spiral inside the
tranny, that is no fun.
Some transmission dis-assembly required.


-- Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon May 24 12:59:30 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:59:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C97C@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Some fuel cells have two pick-up points, one on each side of the tank.
You don't have to use both of them but if you do, you can put a pump on
each pick-up fuel line before merging into one piece of plumbing running
to the front of the car. If you decide to wire them through a switch
(like many racers do) you can put them on one switch or two. He used two
switches.

-JohnD

______________

Message: 3

Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:23:56 -0700 (PDT)

From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets

To: spridgets at autox.team.net, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>

Cc: Midget/Sprite <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>,     Sprite

      <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>

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I noticed a right & left switch for the fuel pump.

Is one a back up system or is he running two small tanks?

It was in one of the pictures on the second link.

I could not find where the meantioned the system.



Vigil

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 16:42:13 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:42:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <324482.37331.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <24690.67221.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Small world - as I was showing Larry and Dave yesterday, Derek's Bauchman
cylinder head is sitting on my workbench - I bought it last Fall. I believe
the Weber carb is my old one - I traded it for his full-prep SUs. Derek's
brother Craig has the nicest prepped cars I have ever seen, SCCA or vintage.
Ron

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: fastvee
<fastvee at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 8:31 AM
> Check out the
new web site where the
> owners describe all the details and show photos of
some very
> well prepared cars. 
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
http://www.britishracecar.com/JohnMcCue-MG-Midget.htm
> 
>
http://www.britishracecar.com/DerekChima-MG-Midget.htm
> 
>
http://www.britishracecar.com/CraigChima-Ginetta-G4.htm
>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon May 24 17:00:34 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:00:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Carlisle video
Message-ID: <4BFB0512.8000406@comcast.net>

3 lister's cars on the Carlisle video from this past weekend.
And those 3 cars all parked in a row are the only 3 cars in the WORLD 
with genuine Lucas smoke check gauges.
Where else will you find such rare and exclusive stuff?

http://carsatcarlisle.com/ce/events/import/

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Mon May 24 18:09:06 2010
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:09:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye not starting
Message-ID: <05CF3277-C9F4-4815-A2F7-355D84906733@comcast.net>

Ok the dizzy was 180 degrees out.I have set the static timing and  
replaced the distributor.Carbs are getting fuel,backfiring some.The  
exhaust is not hooked up except for the manifold.There appears to be  
yellow fire coming out of the manifold where it would be attached to  
the exhaust pipe.I suppose it could be the coil or a carb problem.Any  
suggestions?

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon May 24 18:38:32 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:38:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye not starting
In-Reply-To: <05CF3277-C9F4-4815-A2F7-355D84906733@comcast.net>
References: <05CF3277-C9F4-4815-A2F7-355D84906733@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3A988E5A407B4AE1870C9ACC01876F0B@spider>

Double check that you've timed with #1 coming up and both valves are closed
on #1. Then double check that plug wires in the correct firing sequence in
the distributor cap. ...bill in corvallis
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:09 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye not starting

Ok the dizzy was 180 degrees out.I have set the static timing and  
replaced the distributor.Carbs are getting fuel,backfiring some.The  
exhaust is not hooked up except for the manifold.There appears to be  
yellow fire coming out of the manifold where it would be attached to  
the exhaust pipe.I suppose it could be the coil or a carb problem.Any  
suggestions?
_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 18:43:03 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Carlisle video
In-Reply-To: <4BFB0512.8000406@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <440974.66153.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Very nice - always loved Biff's paint scheme. My Alfa looks pathetic in
comparison. Someone should buy it and freshen it for next year's show.

Ron
--- On Mon, 5/24/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> From:
Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Carlisle
video
> To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, May 24,
2010, 6:00 PM
> 3 lister's cars on the Carlisle video
> from this past
weekend.
> And those 3 cars all parked in a row are the only 3 cars in
> the
WORLD with genuine Lucas smoke check gauges.
> Where else will you find such
rare and exclusive stuff?
> 
> http://carsatcarlisle.com/ce/events/import/
>
> -- Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
>
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon May 24 19:12:22 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:12:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye not starting
In-Reply-To: <3A988E5A407B4AE1870C9ACC01876F0B@spider>
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	<3A988E5A407B4AE1870C9ACC01876F0B@spider>
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...and hook up the exhaust.  You can't tune the carbs with
the exhaust disconnected.

If you are running a little rich the of course you may get yellow fire out
of the manifold.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:39 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bugeye not starting

Double check that you've timed with #1 coming up and both valves are closed
on #1. Then double check that plug wires in the correct firing sequence in
the distributor cap. ...bill in corvallis
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jess Power
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:09 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye not starting

Ok the dizzy was 180 degrees out.I have set the static timing and  
replaced the distributor.Carbs are getting fuel,backfiring some.The  
exhaust is not hooked up except for the manifold.There appears to be  
yellow fire coming out of the manifold where it would be attached to  
the exhaust pipe.I suppose it could be the coil or a carb problem.Any  
suggestions?
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Mon May 24 19:29:03 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:29:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye not starting
In-Reply-To: <05CF3277-C9F4-4815-A2F7-355D84906733@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <201005250129.o4P1TI5q018769@mail.usimperio.com>

Got the plug wires correct?

Dave


At 08:09 PM 5/24/2010, you wrote:
>Ok the dizzy was 180 degrees out.I have set the static timing and
>replaced the distributor.Carbs are getting fuel,backfiring some.The
>exhaust is not hooked up except for the manifold.There appears to be
>yellow fire coming out of the manifold where it would be attached to
>the exhaust pipe.I suppose it could be the coil or a carb problem.Any
>suggestions?
>___________

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Mon May 24 19:51:02 2010
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:51:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] parts  info request
Message-ID: <cd599b4e0ac16e1d464bc8483fa7806d.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

List
I have bought parts from Victoria British for years and LMC Motors for
years for my 1953 Chev pickup.
I need a manifold gasket plus the donut that joins the exhaust manifold
and exhaust pipe and LMC no longer carries these items. I've googled
without much luck.
Can anyone suggest a supplier for these parts. Thanks
Dick B. in NH

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon May 24 20:21:49 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:21:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] parts  info request
In-Reply-To: <cd599b4e0ac16e1d464bc8483fa7806d.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <cd599b4e0ac16e1d464bc8483fa7806d.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <BA793D73A5844A458488481FA71216E7@spider>

If we're talking 1953 Chevy (Victoria British???) any Friendly Local Auto
Parts Store (flaps) should carry these, especially if you have a remnant of
your original part; or measure the donut's i.d. ...bill in oregon
================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:51 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] parts info request

List
I have bought parts from Victoria British for years and LMC Motors for
years for my 1953 Chev pickup.
I need a manifold gasket plus the donut that joins the exhaust manifold
and exhaust pipe and LMC no longer carries these items. I've googled
without much luck.
Can anyone suggest a supplier for these parts. Thanks
Dick B. in NH
_______________________________________________

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon May 24 22:54:05 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 00:54:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update....problem solved cable to solenoid
Message-ID: <AANLkTin3lHoZS5AYATugPx0qSfrHxckIK6QR0jAxGXeh@mail.gmail.com>

Problem solved, or at least one of them anyway. I dont recall who said my
solenoid might be bad but they were extremely close it was the cable. I
accidentally found the problem when I was tracing the wires from the battery
and also looked at the cable traveling from the starter pull on the dash to
the little metal rectangular box under the hood (only labeled switch in Moss
& some of my Sprite books but Solenoid in Victoria British) and saw that the
starter pull can be operated via under the hood saving me time of jumping
into the car to try and start it. When I pulled it from the cable the car
started like I had a brand new battery, when I pulled it from the dash it
barely turned over like the battery was dead. I did not know the solenoid
was that little metal box, I was thinking it was attached under the car near
the starter like big old American cars and wasnt ready to lift the car up
until I needed to pull the starter.



I looked through all 5 of my Sprite books and do not see anything regarding
the solenoid in the index but I havent finished going page per page. I
assume I will need to pull the cable from the dash and clean or replace the
cable.



BTW I had the article in the archives in mind when I pulled the cable
although I do not see Patricia who had a 59 Bugeye on the list any longer
but enjoyed her entry from 2002, read below link:

http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/spridgets/2002-03/msg01107.html



Also I found a battery box at NAPA it was just $9.00 fits great I will trim
it like the MOSS style that Biff mentioned. Although I do not see the metal
replacement in ether the MOSS or Victoria British catalogs, are we just
using plain old sheet metal for this?



Thanks again,

Linda


On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Linda Grunthaner
<grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Listers,
> I want to thank everyone for all the suggestions regarding my little Sprite
> fuel/battery/starter problem.
>
> Update is I finally bought a much needed large battery charger from Sears
> and the battery is only at 12.4 or 12.5 I don't recall. From reading the
> details about batteries I should be at 12.7 volts for 100% I should have
had
> a slow charger on the battery all winter and this little car has not had a
> lot of love in the last few years so it is time to give her much needed
> parts and service and that means a new battery to start with.
>
> I could ether go with another Interstate which I like but one of the
> replies suggested the gel type as I recall something about their design
> being superior. I see the gel types are about $200. and the Interstate
$100.
> now I don't use the car daily so maybe I should just stick with the
> Interstate and put on a battery tender type of charger over winter or bring
> it in the house. What are all of you doing for batteries?
>
> Also yes it might be possible I also have a starter problem ( have a spare
> good starter available thanks Frank) I will bring the battery to the
> Interstate store (sometime next week as I am still working late late nights
> with the kids) and have it tested with a load. If they say it is on the
edge
> I'll get one new battery. If I still have the same sounds like a dead
> battery or near dead battery I'm removing the starter and bench testing it.
>
>
> Does this sound like a plan?
>
> BTW My students & I have been working endless nights on their underwater
> robot the prom is tonight and the competition is tomorrow at 6:30 AM. The
> robot is not done (I hope this changes by end of day) and I am still
> hopeful. This underwater robot competition has kept me from attending
> Carlisle this year which I am bummed about so I hope they at least have it
> fully working and earn some points. I haven't told the kids it is
> interfering with my car show. Please all have a great time I hope it is a
> DRY Day and get some photos : )
>
> Linda & Pinky ; )

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon May 24 23:56:52 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 01:56:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fitting harnesses (of the seatbelt variety)
In-Reply-To: <4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>
References: <1cb69.4448a89c.3925a92c@aol.com>
	<4BF45E28.3000808@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilvbJyvqPwMN2fu9sRjW4mc1e3HHteLdJGBC-V5@mail.gmail.com>

Kate I just read this, OMG glad you're OK after all that. Also glad you got
back on the horse : )
Lin

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> I survived a multi-roll over crash in my MGTD, wearing nothing but a 1950s
> style 4" web lap belt. I was able to lean over and grab the passenger side
> seat frame and hang on. My only injury was from the belt.
>
> I survived a car v locomotive by virtue of not wearing ANY belt, thus being
> able to leave the car prior to contact.
>
> I survived a high speed T-bone by virtue of not wearing a seatbelt. I was
> able to straddle the center console and steer from the passenger seat.My
> left leg needed to be pried from under the steering wheel.
>
> I was badly beaten by a passenger on my bus because the seatbelt release
> jammed and I had no way to move and defend myself.
>
> Belts and harnesses can be either good or bad, depending entirely on the
> circumstances of the accident. I have both a harness and a roll bar in the
> Midget. I always use the harness. I have push button harness/belts in my
> other vehicles and refuse to use them. I have seen too many instances of
> them releasing when they should hold, and jamming when they should release.
> Give me aircraft type buckles and I will happily use them daily.
>
> Kate
>
>
>
> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Well. I've been upside down in cars with a full harness and without though
>>  both cars were NOT convertibles (they had a steel roof).  I also have the
>>  experience of many miles of driving a Sprite with a full race harness, 4
>>  point and 6 point.
>>
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 06:18:21 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 05:18:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <24690.67221.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <416260.28704.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Those guys raise the bar for all of us. I love what they've done and must step
up my game. Derek's Ginetta G4 is amazing. You don't see very many cars
prepped to the 1973 rules though, do you? 
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 6:42 PM

Small world - as I was showing Larry and Dave yesterday, Derek's Bauchman
cylinder head is sitting on my workbench - I bought it last Fall. I believe
the Weber carb is my old one - I traded it for his full-prep SUs. Derek's
brother Craig has the nicest prepped cars I have ever seen, SCCA or vintage.

Ron

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue May 25 07:04:18 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:04:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <416260.28704.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <546757976.28212091274792658966.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

would that engine stiffener/torsion bar seen on those race prepped cars have an effect on std road engines ie keeping them from twisting or shaking at low idle or fast starts? 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com> 
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:18:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets 

Those guys raise the bar for all of us. I love what they've done and must step 
up my game. Derek's Ginetta G4 is amazing. You don't see very many cars 
prepped to the 1973 rules though, do you? 
John 
Fogelsville, PA 

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote: 

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets 
To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com> 
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 6:42 PM 

Small world - as I was showing Larry and Dave yesterday, Derek's Bauchman 
cylinder head is sitting on my workbench - I bought it last Fall. I believe 
the Weber carb is my old one - I traded it for his full-prep SUs. Derek's 
brother Craig has the nicest prepped cars I have ever seen, SCCA or vintage. 

Ron 
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 07:34:49 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 06:34:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
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Message-ID: <746723.94635.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It would help prevent the drive train moving under torque. Something you don't
see as often is a steady rod to limit forward movement of the drive train. The
Bentley manual shows a factory bracket to do this, but I haven't seen one
personally. I have seen the crank damper hit the rack x-member in a crash. For
racing, if it were easier to do, we would mount the engine and trans solidly
to the chassis.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 5/25/10, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
wrote:

From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>


#yiv2020711142 p {margin:0;}would that engine stiffener/torsion bar seen on
those race prepped cars have an effect on std road engines   ie keeping them
from twisting or shaking at low idle or fast starts?

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue May 25 09:38:19 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:38:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <746723.94635.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <746723.94635.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E15B20CC-1011-4F84-9D83-5897DB949210@gmail.com>

On May 25, 2010, at 9:34 AM, fastvee wrote:

>  The Bentley manual shows a factory bracket to do this, but I  
> haven't seen one
> personally.

John,

I have a few of those if you want one.

Some early 70's Midgets had a cable to keep the engine and tranny in  
the car in case of an accident.  Mid 70's cars had a solid bar which  
bolted to the bottom of the tunnel and to the bell-housing.

Kevin

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Tue May 25 09:43:05 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:43:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget seat frames
Message-ID: <SNT124-W239F0BA3878B66832FD683B7E80@phx.gbl>

Hello listers,

I'm getting ready to install a new interior in my '73 Midget. During the
teardown of the seats I discovered that the seat frames are badly rusted - the
tubular frame has actually rusted through in a couple places - and of course
the reclining mechanism is rusted and frozen (to be expected).   Before I get
desperate and start trying to weld up some kind of Frankenstein seat frame,
does anyone have a decent pair of 70s tubular seat frames they'd be willing to
part with (for a price, of course)?



If you reply, please be sure to hit "reply all," since I'm in digest-mode at
the moment and won't get replies sent only to the list until the next digest
goes out.



Cheers & TIA



Mike Eldred

Wilmington, VT



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From cooper6 at swbell.net  Tue May 25 10:59:31 2010
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (MARTIN COOPER)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:59:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Team - This is awesome..
Message-ID: <9768CAFBA9DB44D4903FE5BABDE287F6@martin>

Even Frank can not cut himself!!

You have to watch this, it's from the show Time Warp which uses a high speed
camera to slow down objects to take a closer look at how they work.



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From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Tue May 25 11:25:21 2010
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 17:25:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Team - This is awesome..
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Message-ID: <764351189.14429821274808321163.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Do they have this safety device for a nail gun?
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To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:59:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] Team - This is awesome..

Even Frank can not cut himself!!

You have to watch this, it's from the show Time Warp which uses a high speed
camera to slow down objects to take a closer look at how they work.



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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Tue May 25 11:31:11 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:31:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Team - This is awesome..
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I've known to be very careful with power saws, and I watch closely when using one.  Many years ago I was cutting some wood in my garage with a table saw, again being very careful.  It was a cold night so I was wearing thin gloves.  A few days later I noticed that the fingertip was missing from one of my gloves.  I don't know how or when this happened, but certainly it reinforces the need to be careful around saws.

 
> Even Frank can not cut himself!!

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue May 25 11:22:45 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:22:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Team - This is awesome..
In-Reply-To: <9768CAFBA9DB44D4903FE5BABDE287F6@martin>
References: <9768CAFBA9DB44D4903FE5BABDE287F6@martin>
Message-ID: <161005.24047.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have a bug about Saw-Stop.

At it's most basic, it promotes a lack of respect for inherently dangerous tools and other equipment.

You can have a Saw-Stop table saw but what happens when you run wood through a joiner, or use a hand-held circular saw, drill, drill press, etc.?

A Google search will reveal stories about a recent jury award of 1.5 million dollars against Ryobi, brought by someone who was misusing a portable table saw, because they didn't employ Saw-Stop technology in their saws.

A book could be written on this subject.

Jerks shouldn't be using tools with rotating knives. 

jay fishbein

wallingford, ct
Still sporting 10 fingers for a good reason.




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From: MARTIN COOPER <cooper6 at swbell.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 12:59:31 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Team - This is awesome..

Even Frank can not cut himself!!

You have to watch this, it's from the show Time Warp which uses a high speed
camera to slow down objects to take a closer look at how they work.



http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue May 25 11:37:00 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:37:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget seat frames
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W239F0BA3878B66832FD683B7E80@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W239F0BA3878B66832FD683B7E80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <389E478BE7AA40E6A3AA42341C7DD0E2@Home>

I have seat frames and "reasonable" foams.  I worked on one to get the 
recline mechanism working, but have not worked on the other as I found good 
seats.  Where are you?

Michael Rowe
Long Island, NY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Eldred" <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <mgs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:43 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget seat frames


> Hello listers,
>
> I'm getting ready to install a new interior in my '73 Midget. During the
> teardown of the seats I discovered that the seat frames are badly rusted - 
> the
> tubular frame has actually rusted through in a couple places - and of 
> course
> the reclining mechanism is rusted and frozen (to be expected).   Before I 
> get
> desperate and start trying to weld up some kind of Frankenstein seat 
> frame,
> does anyone have a decent pair of 70s tubular seat frames they'd be 
> willing to
> part with (for a price, of course)?
>
>
>
> If you reply, please be sure to hit "reply all," since I'm in digest-mode 
> at
> the moment and won't get replies sent only to the list until the next 
> digest
> goes out.
>
>
>
> Cheers & TIA
>
>
>
> Mike Eldred
>
> Wilmington, VT
>
>
>
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue May 25 14:58:19 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 15:58:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Late again
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaWAaJdfhbzirnt4NhLpB7k96046gU0rFlwxqM@mail.gmail.com>

We've all heard the joke "he'll be late for his own funeral."

Well, last week I attended a funeral for one of my uncles in Cedar
Rapids, Iowa and it truely happened.

The visitation was at a mission downtown (where one of my cousins
works) Wednesday evening and then the funeral was at his church across
town from that on Thursday afternoon.  During the service the mic was
opened for anyone to share a few words.  His eldest son spoke a few
words first, then #3 son spoke.  Then #1 goes back to the mic, looks
around at all the flowers and says "you may all be wondering where Dad
is... Well, someone put him in my truck last night and we forgot to
bring him in."  The whole family is known to crack jokes so I really
thought they were kidding until while son #4 was speaking #3 came
walking down the center aisle carrying the urn!  He placed it on the
stage, gave it a gentle pat and said "glad you could make it Dad!"

I've never been to a funeral like that before!  Dare I say it?  It was
an enjoyable time.

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Tue May 25 17:19:38 2010
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:19:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
Message-ID: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA0F93@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

Me again! I decided to replace the front suspension bushes, as they were
falling to bits. Well, I was very pleased with myself - got the ones off the
top control arms nice and quickly, put in the new ones, covered them in
grease, put everything back together and...

Hmm...

http://chrisrae.com/hosting/spritebushes.jpg

... there's a load of play in there! I wish I'd paid more attention to the
things when I took them off, but it looks to me like the bolt that goes
through the whole thing is simply too long. Is this possible? Or, erm, have I
done something boneheaded again?

Chris

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 19:33:10 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:33:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
Message-ID: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Chris,
The bolt shown is not the standard part. Is that a hex socket head? I can't tell from the pic, but if it is, then it has pulled into the bushing. I would buy the correct upper fulcrum bolts and lock nuts for reassembly and you may be able to reuse the poly bushings. 
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 5/25/10, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com> wrote:

From: Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 7:19 PM

Me again! I decided to replace the front suspension bushes, as they were
falling to bits. Well, I was very pleased with myself - got the ones off the
top control arms nice and quickly, put in the new ones, covered them in
grease, put everything back together and...

Hmm...

http://chrisrae.com/hosting/spritebushes.jpg

... there's a load of play in there! I wish I'd paid more attention to the
things when I took them off, but it looks to me like the bolt that goes
through the whole thing is simply too long. Is this possible? Or, erm, have I
done something boneheaded again?

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May 25 20:42:06 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 21:42:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com>

<< Chris,
The bolt shown is not the standard part. Is that a hex socket head? I can't
tell from the pic, but if it is, then it has pulled into the bushing. I 
would buy
the correct upper fulcrum bolts and lock nuts for reassembly and you may be
able to reuse the poly bushings. >>

RATS John -:), ya beat me to it as I HAD to go have home-made from 
scratch paste dinner including home-made from scratch
red meat sauce and it was FANTASTIC !!!!

Chris, "IF" that is the exact same bolt you removed from the
'worn-out' bushes/set-up you HAD to have [possibly] changed
flat washers ?!?!?  Or left "some" out of re-assembly ??

There is just NO way that "assembly is the reversal of......" -:)!!

Want the correct one ??  er, or TWO [2] ???

Ed

PS:  Ooops, just as an after-thought was there some sort of 
........."spacer" in the original [meaning what you took apart]
........."assembly"??

Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
..For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue May 25 21:26:48 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:26:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>

Your wife & I must compare recipes someday. I am fixing spaghetti caruso 
on Saturday for a guest list that is growing daily.

Kate


Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> << Chris,
> The bolt shown is not the standard part. Is that a hex socket head? I 
> can't
> tell from the pic, but if it is, then it has pulled into the bushing. 
> I would buy
> the correct upper fulcrum bolts and lock nuts for reassembly and you 
> may be
> able to reuse the poly bushings. >>
>
> RATS John -:), ya beat me to it as I HAD to go have home-made from 
> scratch paste dinner including home-made from scratch
> red meat sauce and it was FANTASTIC !!!!
>
> Chris, "IF" that is the exact same bolt you removed from the
> 'worn-out' bushes/set-up you HAD to have [possibly] changed
> flat washers ?!?!?  Or left "some" out of re-assembly ??
>
> There is just NO way that "assembly is the reversal of......" -:)!!
>
> Want the correct one ??  er, or TWO [2] ???
>
> Ed
>
> PS:  Ooops, just as an after-thought was there some sort of 
> ........."spacer" in the original [meaning what you took apart]
> ........."assembly"??
>
> Please visit MY site at:
> www.justbrits.com
> [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
> ..For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
> _______________________________________________
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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue May 25 21:29:13 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:29:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com> <4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <3C24B8C1-1D25-4D10-A595-01EC01EA5853@gmail.com>

On May 25, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote:

>  I am fixing spaghetti caruso on Saturday for a guest list that is  
> growing daily.


Kate,

What time should we all be there?

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue May 25 21:32:00 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:32:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
Message-ID: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>

In my BE kit's light box, I found one red glass beehive lens with rusty chrome ring -  Lucas L594 - along with various plastic ones (why yellow?).  If anyone has a car that is supposed to have glass and wants it, contact me off-list.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue May 25 21:50:15 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:50:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MGA/MGB Diff or gear set
Message-ID: <A4568E43-3D2F-4D98-8AB7-FDC09BB8DFA5@gerardsgarage.com>

I have a friend who is in need of either an MGA or MGB differential.  
Even if you have a good gear set, that will do. Must be in good usable  
condition. Let me know if you have something and I will put you  
together. His location is Northern California.

NFI

Thanks for reading.

Gerard

From grbyrns at gmail.com  Tue May 25 23:10:16 2010
From: grbyrns at gmail.com (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:10:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Show and Swap Meet the 23rd
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimhh6LI9uxGzi6OTzpgY0OHr4V00eSzoYRItZJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimhh6LI9uxGzi6OTzpgY0OHr4V00eSzoYRItZJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A2BF0921-7D24-47F8-B2B6-339F5E470523@gmail.com>

I was there with Lesley's newly repainted Morris Traveller. 2nd place  
was nice. The show is smaller than before, but still very good. The  
Tickford excited my TC owning friend, the English Fords were cool, and  
I saw a Delorean getting a speeding ticket on the way home on the  
freeway.
Triumph World Roadster, Austin Seven, five different models of Lotii,  
and much more to see. Weak food and vendor participation this year.

Glen Byrns

On May 24, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Did anyone on the list get to the show in Woodland yesterday the 23rd?
>
> Nor Cal. .  Woodland show that used to be in Dixon. .  .
>
> Good showing of cars?  Looked to be a bit less than the last time I  
> was
> there when in Dixon?
>
> I brought my white English Bull Terrier..   English Dog and English  
> cars
> kind of look cool together.
>
> All went well with the dog other than the long trail of crap he left  
> as we
> were walking in.  I had to find something to pick it all up.
>
> The show is the only place where people come up to me and ID the dog  
> as an
> English Bully boy.  Other places, people just think he looks like a  
> strange
> animal and have no idea as to the breed.  Anteater dog, or, what is  
> that?

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed May 26 05:38:17 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 07:38:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Race Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <E15B20CC-1011-4F84-9D83-5897DB949210@gmail.com>
References: <746723.94635.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E15B20CC-1011-4F84-9D83-5897DB949210@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D9D641F5-C73D-46B5-8F83-C1046CAA3D55@phillymgclub.com>

My 78 and my 76 both have/had a cable that does that, it is not a solid bar,
just a really thick stiff cable.

Larry

 Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
 macy at upenn.edu
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 Neuropsychiatry Section
 Department of Psychiatry
 University of Pennsylvania
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you'd rather not talk to."  G. Carlin

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,

On May 25, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 25, 2010, at 9:34 AM, fastvee wrote:
>
>> The Bentley manual shows a factory bracket to do this, but I haven't seen
one
>> personally.
>
> John,
>
> I have a few of those if you want one.
>
> Some early 70's Midgets had a cable to keep the engine and tranny in the car
in case of an accident.  Mid 70's cars had a solid bar which bolted to the
bottom of the tunnel and to the bell-housing.
>
> Kevin
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 05:44:23 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 04:44:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <174122.52298.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

eeeeew, I ate that in kindergarten once!
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 5/25/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
RATS John -:), ya beat me to it as I HAD to go have home-made from scratch paste dinner including home-made from scratch
red meat sauce and it was FANTASTIC !!!!

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed May 26 06:08:26 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:08:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] found on craigslist
Message-ID: <2118947281.28673501274875706647.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

nfi 
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/clt/1759356270.html 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 26 06:16:21 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 05:16:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
In-Reply-To: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
References: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
Message-ID: <07A26C66D3E54D17AC048A3047E06134@spider>

Sometimes the plastic ones will change color in sunlight. And maybe, in
Europe, they favored yellow on one side or the other. I think it dates back
to when they'd park halfway up on the sidewalk at night, and leave a running
light on. The Mercedes in the 1950's still had a separate light switch
setting that would light their left or right side low-wattage light for
night sidewalk parking.  ...bill in corvallis
=============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:32 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light

In my BE kit's light box, I found one red glass beehive lens with rusty
chrome ring -  Lucas L594 - along with various plastic ones (why yellow?).
If anyone has a car that is supposed to have glass and wants it, contact me
off-list.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
_______________________________________________

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed May 26 06:41:19 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 05:41:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
In-Reply-To: <07A26C66D3E54D17AC048A3047E06134@spider>
References: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
	<07A26C66D3E54D17AC048A3047E06134@spider>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikiqsRuT6Naf8z2UpMRUFrCMx8-xEy5T_01pQii@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:16 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Sometimes the plastic ones will change color in sunlight. And maybe, in
> Europe, they favored yellow on one side or the other. I think it dates back
> to when they'd park halfway up on the sidewalk at night, and leave a
> running
> light on. The Mercedes in the 1950's still had a separate light switch
> setting that would light their left or right side low-wattage light for
> night sidewalk parking.  ...bill in corvallis
>

My wife's car is an '82 380SL, I always wondered what that weird light
switch was for!  Now I know.
Hal

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed May 26 07:04:27 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:04:27 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
References: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home><07A26C66D3E54D17AC048A3047E06134@spider>
	<AANLkTikiqsRuT6Naf8z2UpMRUFrCMx8-xEy5T_01pQii@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9EAEACBCECCA4A159E630F45E08C23E2@user8634b3d69b>

Not only were they the colour for an indicator lamp, that type of lamp was 
fitted to other vehicles in the UK.  IMHO Land Rover Ltd was the last major 
manufacturer to use them in the UK and at least one of the prototype Range 
Rovers had them to the front.  They seemed to be a favourite with car sized 
trailer builders as well.
Lights were not different colours from side to side as Hal suggests, they 
were (and still are) red facing rear and white facing front.  Indicator 
lights can be either amber or white to the front and amber or red to the 
rear.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <frog.aye at gmail.com>
To: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Glass light


> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:16 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes the plastic ones will change color in sunlight. And maybe, in
>> Europe, they favored yellow on one side or the other. I think it dates 
>> back
>> to when they'd park halfway up on the sidewalk at night, and leave a
>> running
>> light on. The Mercedes in the 1950's still had a separate light switch
>> setting that would light their left or right side low-wattage light for
>> night sidewalk parking.  ...bill in corvallis
>>
>
> My wife's car is an '82 380SL, I always wondered what that weird light
> switch was for!  Now I know.
> Hal

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 26 07:23:34 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 13:23:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] clean 76 for sale
Message-ID: <BAY147-w43A8F566045B35C6415BC7B8E90@phx.gbl>

Looks like you could eat off of this one:
http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1976-MG-Midget-Convertib
le-W0QQAdIdZ191917015#

or http://preview.tinyurl.com/2eqgz6m
NFI and all that!
Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May 26 07:26:55 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:26:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
In-Reply-To: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
References: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
Message-ID: <201005260626718.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

L594 is supposed to be glass, and glass is correct for a Bugeye. NOT 
plastique. (and over time, the red may become amber)
         Peter C
==
At 10:32 PM 5/25/2010, Michael Rowe wrote:
>In my BE kit's light box, I found one red glass beehive lens with 
>rusty chrome ring -  Lucas L594 - along with various plastic ones 
>(why yellow?).  If anyone has a car that is supposed to have glass 
>and wants it, contact me off-list.
>
>Michael Rowe
>'74 Bugeyed Midget
>'60 Sprite kit

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May 26 07:27:34 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 06:27:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] clean 76 for sale
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w43A8F566045B35C6415BC7B8E90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w43A8F566045B35C6415BC7B8E90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <801825.61620.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Not only that but you could probably do some cooking on that "15,000 cc" motor.

 jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: "robertduquette at sympatico.ca" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 9:23:34 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] clean 76 for sale

Looks like you could eat off of this one:
http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1976-MG-Midget-Convertib
le-W0QQAdIdZ191917015#

or http://preview.tinyurl.com/2eqgz6m
NFI and all that!
Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg
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From conen at bellsouth.net  Wed May 26 07:37:08 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 06:37:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] All Brit Show and Swap Meet the 23rd
Message-ID: <61305.27736.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Glen!
What kind of English Fords were there?  Did you get pictures??
 Ed in NC :-)

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May 26 08:02:53 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:02:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget content... request for help
Message-ID: <201005260702317.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Would someone well versed, or professional, in the field of domain 
names and registration would please contact me off list, I would appreciate it.

I've gotten contacted by something either phishing, or real.

	Thanks     Peter C.

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed May 26 08:04:59 2010
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 07:04:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Sedan For Sale - NorCal
Message-ID: <2011515.1274882699410.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Gang,

Just got a call from my old buddy Bruce Wyman, the original owner of MorriService in Redwood City, CA - He now lives in the Nevada City, CA area and drives an old BMW and builds straight Eight Buick powered vintage speedsters - even has made a kit to put a Camaro 5-speed behind a Buick mill!!!  Anyhow, he is selling a Morris he built for his sister in Redwood City many years ago that has been sitting for a long time after being well used for years - it will need a cosmetic restoration.

He has gone through it to make sure it is dependable and safe - It has a strong running 948 and good working smoothcase trans. All of the brakes have just been rebuilt with disc brakes up front - the tires are brand new and mounted on sandblasted and repainted, properly bored out Vega wheels (he said that these are very hard to find today) He also has the Vega Hubcaps. The body is clean and rust-free - it has a perfect replacement fender in primer - the bottom of the trunklid is rusty but he has a rust free replacement that goes with the car.....

Bruce is asking $4,000 for the car

Bruce Wyman  <rbw at foothill.net>
530-477-2563

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Bruce Wyman Morris .jpg]

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 26 08:15:49 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:15:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] clean 76 for sale
In-Reply-To: <801825.61620.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY147-w43A8F566045B35C6415BC7B8E90@phx.gbl>,
	<801825.61620.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w47AC6577785E8FA626D753B8E90@phx.gbl>

Ha!  I guess I was looking at the body and not paying attention to much else.
Story of my life.

Robert
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 06:27:34 -0700
>
> Not only that but you could probably do some cooking on that "15,000 cc"
motor.
>
>  jay fishbein
>
> wallingford, ct
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "robertduquette at sympatico.ca" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>
> Looks like you could eat off of this one:
>
http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1976-MG-Midget-Convertib
> le-W0QQAdIdZ191917015#
>
> or http://preview.tinyurl.com/2eqgz6m
> NFI and all that!
> Robert

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Wed May 26 09:15:15 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:15:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>

And in an unexpected location, Austin, Texas!  Apparently they are going to
build a new facility to host the event.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/5/10824.html

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May 26 09:21:16 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:21:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget content... request for help FIXED
In-Reply-To: <201005260702317.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201005260702317.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <201005260821133.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Thanks for the replies.
         All is well.

Speaking of phishing, I'm off to Canadia for 10 days beginning the 
31st. I'll be completely out of touch, and loving it.

No sound but that of a 9 horse and a poptop,....   Y'all play nice.

         Peter
====
At 09:02 AM 5/26/2010, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>Would someone well versed, or professional, in the field of domain 
>names and registration would please contact me off list, I would appreciate it.
>
>I've gotten contacted by something either phishing, or real.
>
>         Thanks     Peter C.
>_______________________________________________

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed May 26 09:42:48 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:42:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <3C24B8C1-1D25-4D10-A595-01EC01EA5853@gmail.com>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com> <4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>
	<3C24B8C1-1D25-4D10-A595-01EC01EA5853@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BFD4178.20902@frontiernet.net>

All self invited guests are requested to show up at 1:00. Bring work 
clothes and something to change into, if you like. Four showers will be 
available. Dinner will be served as soon as the plumber and his 
volunteer assistants are through with the repairs under my house.

Kate

Kevin Valentine wrote:
>
> On May 25, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote:
>
>>  I am fixing spaghetti caruso on Saturday for a guest list that is 
>> growing daily.
>
>
> Kate,
>
> What time should we all be there?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 26 09:53:53 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:53:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget content... request for help FIXED
In-Reply-To: <201005260821133.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201005260702317.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<201005260821133.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w260BE30E9CAD74771798AFB8E90@phx.gbl>

>> I'll be completely out of touch

People accuse me of that all the time!!!

ED



----------------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:21:16 -0500
>
> Thanks for the replies.
> All is well.
>
> Speaking of phishing, I'm off to Canadia for 10 days beginning the
> 31st. I'll be completely out of touch, and loving it.
>
> No sound but that of a 9 horse and a poptop,.... Y'all play nice.
>
> Peter
> ====
> At 09:02 AM 5/26/2010, Peter Caldwell wrote:
> >Would someone well versed, or professional, in the field of domain
> >names and registration would please contact me off list, I would appreciate
it.
> >
> >I've gotten contacted by something either phishing, or real.
> >
> > Thanks Peter C.
> >_______________________________________________

From chriskrchr at gmail.com  Wed May 26 10:04:29 2010
From: chriskrchr at gmail.com (Chris Karcher)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:04:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
Message-ID: <AANLkTimQi3Oh2JCrQYZ_u1kZgT0VmcULk-Fhp8gQgXx6@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Chris,
You've definitely got the wrong pin in there.  I rooted around in the stuff
left over from when we did ours and could only find one, but you're welcome
to it if you want it.  If so and you want to come get it, let me know.  (You
probably don't remember where I am exactly from that one brief trip here to
top off your front shocks.)

Chris Karcher

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May 26 10:14:49 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:14:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <879421.91670.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Texas is loaded with F1 fans. Plus Bernie gets another new facility for his cocktail parties because that's what F1 is all about.

Seriously though, hopefully they attract more F1 fans than were in Indianapolis.

Personally, I liked F1 before it was a spec car series and the drivers didn't have $150,000 each in driver's uniforms. (That is a fact btw.)

jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: Greg Gowins <eric.t.cartman at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 11:15:15 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012

And in an unexpected location, Austin, Texas!  Apparently they are going to
build a new facility to host the event.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/5/10824.html

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Wed May 26 10:19:14 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:19:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BFD4A02.9040305@cox.net>

On 5/26/2010 8:15 AM, Greg Gowins wrote:
> And in an unexpected location, Austin, Texas!  Apparently they are going to
> build a new facility to host the event.
>
> http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/5/10824.html
>    
Folks in Austin are all abuzz about this. You know what I *don't* see? 
Financing. I don't see anything about the site, or where the money to 
build it is coming from.

That said, Austin is an excellent venue. I was there for SXSW in March, 
and it's definitely a great place to visit.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Wed May 26 10:28:52 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 11:28:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <4BFD4A02.9040305@cox.net>
References: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BFD4A02.9040305@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikODGxM88bp0t6paXYPWJwbWTcIXComcLjF_W1g@mail.gmail.com>

According the the Austin paper, the proposed site is going to be east of the
airport, and the financing was going to be private.  But nothing is certain
at this time.  I'm sure more and more details will be coming out in the near
future.  I just hope they design a track with more than one passing zone.
Space isn't going to be an issue in the design.

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:19 AM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

> On 5/26/2010 8:15 AM, Greg Gowins wrote:
>
>> And in an unexpected location, Austin, Texas!  Apparently they are going
>> to
>> build a new facility to host the event.
>>
>> http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/5/10824.html
>>
>>
> Folks in Austin are all abuzz about this. You know what I *don't* see?
> Financing. I don't see anything about the site, or where the money to build
> it is coming from.
>
> That said, Austin is an excellent venue. I was there for SXSW in March, and
> it's definitely a great place to visit.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ambrose

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May 26 10:43:13 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:43:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikODGxM88bp0t6paXYPWJwbWTcIXComcLjF_W1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BFD4A02.9040305@cox.net>
	<AANLkTikODGxM88bp0t6paXYPWJwbWTcIXComcLjF_W1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <267499.74432.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I am taking a wait-and-see attitude on this. Nothing is signed. Nothing is set in stone yet. There isn't a track. 

Monticello was expecting to need financing of "$100 million to $150 million" to prepare the track, an existing modern track I might add. In addition, all of these new F1 venues came about through public funding.


Even if this gets the green light, Bernie will cancel anything at the 11th hour. There is no longer a French GP, the project at Donnington Park fell apart, Silverstone hangs on by a thread, and Montreal got sacrificed, albeit temporarily.
 
So maybe this will happen and maybe it won't. I wouldn't be too anxious to anticipate which grandstand seats I want before the announce the 2012 calendar next year.

jay




________________________________
From: Greg Gowins <eric.t.cartman at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:28:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012

According the the Austin paper, the proposed site is going to be east of the
airport, and the financing was going to be private.  But nothing is certain
at this time.  

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed May 26 10:55:46 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:55:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Sedan For Sale - NorCal
In-Reply-To: <2011515.1274882699410.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C822A0A2.275E0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  builds straight Eight Buick powered vintage speedsters
Have you heard one? There's something very special about the sound of that
engine. I think it's because it was one of the few OHV straight eights.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 26 11:02:07 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:02:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Sedan For Sale - NorCal
In-Reply-To: <C822A0A2.275E0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <2011515.1274882699410.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<C822A0A2.275E0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <57367082832545E4B4B8E71F466BC6D8@spider>

Agreed. There used to be an open touring dragster at Lions Drag Strip in
Long Beach, California ...1958. Straight-8; I forget the make. What a sound!
...bill in corvallis
===========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:56 AM
To: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net; morris_motors at yahoogroups.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net; morris at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris Sedan For Sale - NorCal

>  builds straight Eight Buick powered vintage speedsters
Have you heard one? There's something very special about the sound of that
engine. I think it's because it was one of the few OHV straight eights.
_______________________________________________

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Wed May 26 11:05:43 2010
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:05:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimQi3Oh2JCrQYZ_u1kZgT0VmcULk-Fhp8gQgXx6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimQi3Oh2JCrQYZ_u1kZgT0VmcULk-Fhp8gQgXx6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA20CB@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi Chris et al - thank you indeed, you are all of course quite right. I feel
somewhat vindicated now... was a bit disappointed that I'd managed to bugger
up changing something quite so simple. This might go some way to explaining
why my car was lurching violently from side to side now and again...

Chris, many thanks for the offer of the bolt - I actually already had an order
open on Moss for a carburettor float, so I just ordered the correct pins as
well (just in case the other side is the same).

One final question... does anyone have a nice cost-effective way of
compressing a spring? :)

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Karcher
Sent: 26 May 2010 09:04
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!

Hey Chris,
You've definitely got the wrong pin in there.  I rooted around in the stuff
left over from when we did ours and could only find one, but you're welcome to
it if you want it.  If so and you want to come get it, let me know.  (You
probably don't remember where I am exactly from that one brief trip here to
top off your front shocks.)

Chris Karcher
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/chris.rae at microsoft.com

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 26 11:27:01 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:27:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA20CB@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <AANLkTimQi3Oh2JCrQYZ_u1kZgT0VmcULk-Fhp8gQgXx6@mail.gmail.com>
	<BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA20CB@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilQ_gn329DCyFtqjnVNd1OnZz5rfPi9ObIkw_8i@mail.gmail.com>

Front spring? Place that side of the car on a jack stand, put the spring in
place, and put a floor jack under the A arm. Jack up the A arm until things
are in place. It is important to have the engine in place, as you will need
the weight to compress the spring.

Brad

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris et al - thank you indeed, you are all of course quite right. I
> feel
> somewhat vindicated now... was a bit disappointed that I'd managed to
> bugger
> up changing something quite so simple. This might go some way to explaining
> why my car was lurching violently from side to side now and again...
>
> Chris, many thanks for the offer of the bolt - I actually already had an
> order
> open on Moss for a carburettor float, so I just ordered the correct pins as
> well (just in case the other side is the same).
>
> One final question... does anyone have a nice cost-effective way of
> compressing a spring? :)
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Karcher
> Sent: 26 May 2010 09:04
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
>
> Hey Chris,
> You've definitely got the wrong pin in there.  I rooted around in the stuff
> left over from when we did ours and could only find one, but you're welcome
> to
> it if you want it.  If so and you want to come get it, let me know.  (You
> probably don't remember where I am exactly from that one brief trip here to
> top off your front shocks.)
>
> Chris Karcher
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/forums%0AUnsubscribe/Manage>:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/chris.rae at microsoft.com
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed May 26 11:32:13 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Lost in Austin
Message-ID: <771671.79663.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Interesting comments follow this article.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100526/F1/100529830

Personally..................I'm not ready to put money on this.

 jay

From chriskrchr at gmail.com  Wed May 26 11:45:20 2010
From: chriskrchr at gmail.com (Chris Karcher)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:45:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilQ_gn329DCyFtqjnVNd1OnZz5rfPi9ObIkw_8i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimQi3Oh2JCrQYZ_u1kZgT0VmcULk-Fhp8gQgXx6@mail.gmail.com>
	<BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA20CB@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
	<AANLkTilQ_gn329DCyFtqjnVNd1OnZz5rfPi9ObIkw_8i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVYjieU0HoJddfNmwju1bXX3laU2uvJSNeQ_x0@mail.gmail.com>

There's a lot of stored energy in that compressed spring -- could get ugly
if the jack slipped or something.  I just went to Lowe's and got a couple
12" pieces of 5/16 threaded rod.  Stick them through two opposing holes in
the A-arm and spring pan (assuming spring pan has been removed) and run up
nuts with washers to compress the spring.  Once it's close enough, you put
the original bolts in the other two holes to secure it while the threaded
rods are removed.  Simple, safe, CHEAP!

Chris

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>wrote:

> Front spring? Place that side of the car on a jack stand, put the spring in
> place, and put a floor jack under the A arm. Jack up the A arm until things
> are in place. It is important to have the engine in place, as you will need
> the weight to compress the spring.
>
> Brad
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris et al - thank you indeed, you are all of course quite right. I
>> feel
>> somewhat vindicated now... was a bit disappointed that I'd managed to
>> bugger
>> up changing something quite so simple. This might go some way to
>> explaining
>> why my car was lurching violently from side to side now and again...
>>
>> Chris, many thanks for the offer of the bolt - I actually already had an
>> order
>> open on Moss for a carburettor float, so I just ordered the correct pins
>> as
>> well (just in case the other side is the same).
>>
>> One final question... does anyone have a nice cost-effective way of
>> compressing a spring? :)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Karcher
>> Sent: 26 May 2010 09:04
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
>>
>> Hey Chris,
>> You've definitely got the wrong pin in there.  I rooted around in the
>> stuff
>> left over from when we did ours and could only find one, but you're
>> welcome to
>> it if you want it.  If so and you want to come get it, let me know.  (You
>> probably don't remember where I am exactly from that one brief trip here
>> to
>> top off your front shocks.)
>>
>> Chris Karcher
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/forums%0AUnsubscribe/Manage>:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/chris.rae at microsoft.com
>> _______________________________________________
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From duncan at pondhop.com  Wed May 26 11:48:40 2010
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:48:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilQ_gn329DCyFtqjnVNd1OnZz5rfPi9ObIkw_8i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimQi3Oh2JCrQYZ_u1kZgT0VmcULk-Fhp8gQgXx6@mail.gmail.com>
	<BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA20CB@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
	<AANLkTilQ_gn329DCyFtqjnVNd1OnZz5rfPi9ObIkw_8i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015201cafcfb$aef800c0$0ce80240$@pondhop.com>

<< One final question... does anyone have a nice cost-effective way of
compressing a spring? :) >>

One way is to temporarily replace the bolts in the lower spring pan with
longer ones (do this one at a time of course). I think I used around 6"
bolts
Then the spring can be put in place and the bolts tightened to compress the
spring.
Once you have it all the way in replace with the correct bolts again

Thanks
Duncan


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:27
To: Chris Rae
Cc: Chris Karcher; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!

Front spring? Place that side of the car on a jack stand, put the spring in
place, and put a floor jack under the A arm. Jack up the A arm until things
are in place. It is important to have the engine in place, as you will need
the weight to compress the spring.

Brad

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris et al - thank you indeed, you are all of course quite right. 
> I feel somewhat vindicated now... was a bit disappointed that I'd 
> managed to bugger up changing something quite so simple. This might go 
> some way to explaining why my car was lurching violently from side to 
> side now and again...
>
> Chris, many thanks for the offer of the bolt - I actually already had 
> an order open on Moss for a carburettor float, so I just ordered the 
> correct pins as well (just in case the other side is the same).
>
> One final question... does anyone have a nice cost-effective way of 
> compressing a spring? :)
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net 
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Karcher
> Sent: 26 May 2010 09:04
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
>
> Hey Chris,
> You've definitely got the wrong pin in there.  I rooted around in the 
> stuff left over from when we did ours and could only find one, but 
> you're welcome to it if you want it.  If so and you want to come get 
> it, let me know.  (You probably don't remember where I am exactly from 
> that one brief trip here to top off your front shocks.)
>
> Chris Karcher
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May 26 12:03:25 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:03:25 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
Message-ID: <6916a.648587d4.392ebc6d@aol.com>

Donnington bid too much money which they didn't have and I can't believe  
anyone thought it was a realistic prospect. What's more it had poor transport 
 links
 
Silverstone has a solid deal and good transport links and remains the UK  
premier circuit.
 
Austin, USA sounds more like a Donnington deal than a Silverstone  deal.
 
The French despite having a great motoring history don't seem to have put  
big money into circuit development but why bother with F1 when you have Le  
Mans?
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 26/05/2010 17:43:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
jfishbein at snet.net writes:

Donnington Park fell apart, Silverstone hangs on by a  thread,

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 26 12:33:41 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 13:33:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <879421.91670.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<879421.91670.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BFD6985.5080107@justbrits.com>

I'm with you, Jay !!!

<< Plus Bernie gets another new facility for his cocktail parties
because that's what F1 is all about. >>

BINGO !! F1 hasn't been "racing" since on-board
computers where invented [or application thereof].
I have TRIED to watch it and it's just plain BORING.
Those guys are NOT 'drivers' anymore, just 'pilots'
doing Bernie's "bidding". Sad.

Then I read the Auto-Week article and almost busted
a gut from THIS !!
<quote>
....the tech money 
<http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100526/F1/100529830#>, the nightlife, 
the music--it all just fits with
what Formula One is all about.
</quote>

Jay, did you pen your note before [my guess] or after
reading it ??? LOL

Ed

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed May 26 15:03:09 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:03:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
Message-ID: <77279.6727fa3e.392ee68d@aol.com>

Slot car racers?
 
In a message dated 26/05/2010 19:39:36 GMT Daylight Time,  
shop at justbrits.com writes:

Those  guys are NOT 'drivers' anymore, just 'pilots'
doing Bernie's "bidding".  Sad.

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 26 15:14:37 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:14:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <77279.6727fa3e.392ee68d@aol.com>
References: <77279.6727fa3e.392ee68d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4BFD8F3D.8040503@justbrits.com>

<< Slot car racers? >>

Not even them, Daniel !!  Those folks [even the most
serious] have FUN and you can see it on their faces
<VBG> !!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 26 15:18:02 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:18:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
In-Reply-To: <4BFD4178.20902@frontiernet.net>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com> <4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>
	<3C24B8C1-1D25-4D10-A595-01EC01EA5853@gmail.com>
	<4BFD4178.20902@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4BFD900A.6000101@justbrits.com>

<<...the repairs under my house. >>

That rules me out, Kate <F> !!!!

You had best start some version of a RSVP List !!!!!!

Want me to send you a "prize" for "Furthest LBC Driver" ??
Nah, never mind; sounds like RD would win anyway. <G>

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 26 15:20:13 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:20:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
In-Reply-To: <201005260626718.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
	<201005260626718.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4BFD908D.5040807@justbrits.com>

<< NOT plastique. >>

I have yet to meet a Spridgeteer that would [even]
wanna blow his car up, Peter !?!?!

Now Frank and a [GREAT] Chevy pick-up...........LOL !!

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed May 26 18:01:54 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:01:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do this???????
Message-ID: <1486678401.29025471274918514122.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/1761109356.html 

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed May 26 18:20:55 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:20:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <6916a.648587d4.392ebc6d@aol.com>
References: <6916a.648587d4.392ebc6d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7B9E234021E540A48618628393D5F679@OwnerPC>

The USGP should be where the greatest concentration of potential spectators 
are located.  That narrows it down to the eastern seaboard and/or the west 
coast.  Watkins Glen was the perfect venue and hosted the USGP from '61 thru 
'80 or '81 (or was it '82?).  When Bernie's nose got out of joint about some 
silly detail, he picked up his toys and went home.  The USGP was never 
completely successful after it left Watkins Glen.
I think Bernie Ecclestone is probably THE worst single thing to happen to F1 
since the second world war.  It's commercial success has changed it from an 
exciting, challenging form of motor racing in which only a very few drivers 
could truly excell into a spec series with "drivers" (bunch of snot-nosed 
kids) who wouldn't have been fit to carry the driving gloves of any of the 
F1 drivers of the 60s.
Seriously, can you imagine someone (other than maybe Michael Schumacher) 
competing with Jo Siffert, Jochen Rindt, Jackie Stewart, Phil Hill, Graham 
Hill, Dan Gurney, Stiirling Moss, Innes Ireland, Jimmy Clark, Bruce McLaren, 
Denny Hulme, Pedro Rodriguez, Niki Lauda, Ronnie Peterson and, say, Chris 
Amon at Spa or the Nurburgring......as those circuits were in the 60s, and 
in the cars of the 60s?
Today's F1 bores me, terribly.  Of course, NASCAR turns my stomach.  Indy 
Car comes close to being real racing (although I don't follow it at all 
anymore), but it's just not nearly as exciting as it was back when sex was 
safe and race cars were dangerous.  I guess it's because back then, there 
were serious consequences for mistakes or errors in judgement and the top 
drivers were really god-like figures to the rest of us, instead of mouth 
pieces for big, corporate sponsors with "marketability" as their strongest 
asset, instead of driving ability.
Call me a cranky old man, if you like, but racing sure has lost a LOT over 
the past few decades.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
To: <jfishbein at snet.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012


> Donnington bid too much money which they didn't have and I can't believe
> anyone thought it was a realistic prospect. What's more it had poor 
> transport
> links
>
> Silverstone has a solid deal and good transport links and remains the UK
> premier circuit.
>
> Austin, USA sounds more like a Donnington deal than a Silverstone  deal.
>
> The French despite having a great motoring history don't seem to have put
> big money into circuit development but why bother with F1 when you have Le
> Mans?
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 26 18:36:44 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:36:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do
 this???????
In-Reply-To: <1486678401.29025471274918514122.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1486678401.29025471274918514122.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A7B281D132A94FE596FA724E8544EE63@HomePC>

Ignorant bastard doesn't even know what he has there.  A 65 MGA?

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:01 PM
To: "Club, Philly" <Philly_MG_Club at yahoogroups.com>; "spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do 
this???????

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From herby at herbytoys.com  Wed May 26 18:41:44 2010
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:41:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do
 this???????
In-Reply-To: <1486678401.29025471274918514122.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E66FBE0422BB4F24BA4A8F4A19DF3F24@HERBYZ>

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/1761109356.html


Probably the same (or somehow related) person who did this.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1756255468.html


Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the DD/toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Wed May 26 19:46:47 2010
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:46:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do
 this???????
In-Reply-To: <E66FBE0422BB4F24BA4A8F4A19DF3F24@HERBYZ>
References: <1486678401.29025471274918514122.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<E66FBE0422BB4F24BA4A8F4A19DF3F24@HERBYZ>
Message-ID: <000001cafd3e$7a11b160$6e351420$@com>

Or this.............why some people think this looks cool on a classic car
is beyond me. If I want a retro look, I will buy the retro car.


http://www.leakecar.com/index.cfm?id=208&auc_code=TULSA10&lot=480

Maybe it takes a younger mindset to appreciate it.

Neil Anderson

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 20:04:35 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:04:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
Message-ID: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country is broken.

That is all.

Ron

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 26 20:24:16 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:24:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <900F448D6CF54703B2F1E36905E22C8E@spider>

A relative of mine recently went thru the same experience in Oregon.
$20,000 for one day via Emergency Care; lots of doctors involved and a
CatScan (sp.) She had medical coverage. 

I know that when I head to the hospital, that I'm very, very sick and money
does not have much value to me if I die.
I understand your frustration with many aspects of The System.
...bill in corvallis

(Diverticulitis is a common digestive disease particularly found in the
large intestine. Diverticulitis develops from diverticulosis, which involves
the formation of pouches (diverticula) on the outside of the colon.
Diverticulitis results if one of these diverticula becomes inflamed.)
==========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:05 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC

Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for
diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and
asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country is
broken.

That is all.

Ron
_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 21:03:03 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:03:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <900F448D6CF54703B2F1E36905E22C8E@spider>
Message-ID: <181419.30886.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 5/26/10, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> CatScan (sp.) She had medical coverage. 

I do too, for most of it - that is not a license for the system to steal. I have always managed my healthcare like I do my business - as if every dollar is my own, because ultimately it is. 

Ron

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed May 26 21:03:36 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:03:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <900F448D6CF54703B2F1E36905E22C8E@spider>
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<900F448D6CF54703B2F1E36905E22C8E@spider>
Message-ID: <4BFDE108.17196.4E784C@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Triple bypass (open the chest surgery), 10 days in the hospital, 
$77,400
1 (one) stent, local anesthetic, overnight stay in hospital, $34,600

You figure it out.. I can't !

BTW, I'm making monthly payments..

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed May 26 21:53:08 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:53:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <181419.30886.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C8233AB4.27639%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Next time, get your prostate removed. I think I got a pretty good deal, all
things considered. 
BZ

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Wed May 26 22:18:32 2010
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 04:18:32 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Where to buy brake rotors for Sprite and, umm,
 a VW Golf at the  same time
Message-ID: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA424A@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

After I posted a picture of my haplessly-attached suspension, a nice man named
Bob Walker pointed out that there's a thumping great crack through my brake
rotor. After pondering whether I might just ignore it, I think I'd better buy
new brake rotors.

I also happen to need brake rotors for my '2000 VW Golf - does anyone know
somewhere on the internet where I could buy rotors for both vehicles at the
same time? I had high hopes for Schucks but they say "call us" for the
wire-wheel Sprite rotors and, well, it's 9pm now. I could always call them
tomorrow, I suppose, but I'm an impatient sort...

Chris

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 03:11:23 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Where to buy brake rotors for Sprite and, umm,
 a VW Golf at the  same time
In-Reply-To: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA424A@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <701825.35180.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Peter Caldwell, World Wide. 608-223-9404

--- On Wed, 5/26/10, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> I also happen to need brake rotors for my '2000 VW Golf -
> does anyone know
> somewhere on the internet where I could buy rotors for both
> vehicles at the
> same time? 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 27 04:53:53 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 05:53:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <45821491FBDA471E93D1B3529E0D72C6@HomePC>

Ron, my insurance company paid slightly less than $10,000 for my surgery to 
reattach my Achilles to my heel including all follow-up, etc.  The bill, 
however, was twice that.  The deal the ins. co. negotiates with the networks 
is incredible.  Now, if you can't afford really good insurance like mine (my 
portion of the bill was a $50 co-pay) you end up paying the total bill out 
of pocket -- in this case nearly $20,000 versus my $50.  And you know that 
if the providers are only getting half of the bill paid by the ins. co., 
they need to jack the prices up for the rest to make up for it.  If you 
can't afford the insurance, how in the hell are you going to pay the bill? 
You can't; you will lose everything over a damn doctor bill.  We need 
national health care so the less well-off aren't constantly teetering on the 
edge of disaster over this.

Rant over.


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:04 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC

Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for 
diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and 
asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country is 
broken.

That is all.

Ron
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 05:56:46 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 07:56:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do
 this?????
Message-ID: <SNT124-W27D50AE7FB1C407E0F4A9CB7EA0@phx.gbl>

or this:



http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/1753689240.html





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Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:41:44 -0700
From: "Herby" <herby at herbytoys.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do
this???????
To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>, "'spridgets'"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E66FBE0422BB4F24BA4A8F4A19DF3F24 at HERBYZ>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/1761109356.html


Probably the same (or somehow related) person who did this.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1756255468.html


Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the DD/toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com


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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu May 27 06:58:56 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 7:58:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <45821491FBDA471E93D1B3529E0D72C6@HomePC>
Message-ID: <20100527125857.8FS46.535130.root@hrndva-web15-z02>

durning my bout of unemployment last year, one of the kids required an emergency trip.  
Even with COBRA coverage, it was cheaper for me to pay out of pocket.  The side by side comparison was incredible.

Still sucked, but it was the lesser of the evils.

Chris 
---- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> Ron, my insurance company paid slightly less than $10,000 for my surgery to 
> reattach my Achilles to my heel including all follow-up, etc.  The bill, 
> however, was twice that.  The deal the ins. co. negotiates with the networks 
> is incredible.  Now, if you can't afford really good insurance like mine (my 
> portion of the bill was a $50 co-pay) you end up paying the total bill out 
> of pocket -- in this case nearly $20,000 versus my $50.  And you know that 
> if the providers are only getting half of the bill paid by the ins. co., 
> they need to jack the prices up for the rest to make up for it.  If you 
> can't afford the insurance, how in the hell are you going to pay the bill? 
> You can't; you will lose everything over a damn doctor bill.  We need 
> national health care so the less well-off aren't constantly teetering on the 
> edge of disaster over this.
> 
> Rant over.
> 
> 
> LAD

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu May 27 07:40:53 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:40:53 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CE419B8D24FD46B5AE45559BB8CA2FB6@user8634b3d69b>

There are some people who think in a similar way about the UK National 
Health system - but it is mostly free.

Over here in the UK; after our last Government, the Country IS broke(n).

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave"
To: "Spridgets"
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:04 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC


> Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for 
> diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and 
> asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country is 
> broken.
>
> That is all.
>
> Ron
> _______________________________________________

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu May 27 09:02:00 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:02:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight Relays
Message-ID: <39387FB036AB4D988D555CB291A1522B@Home>

All the headlight circuits are out-to-ground, which means there are a lot of ground connections at relays.  Should these all be gathered up into one universal connection to the body, or kept separate so a failure does not affect the entire system?  What is a good way to make a really strong universal ground connection up front (fiberglass bonnet)?  How about mounting the relays with bolts and washers to bare metal?I would like a plug so it is easy to take the bonnet off.  

Speaking of which, I have not found a source of generic multiwire plugs and sockets.
 
The standard headlights appear not to be fused on my diagram.  The relay diagrams show a fuse for power in to each relay - high and low beam.  There is discussion online about problems with fused headlights.  What thoughts?

My fiberglass bonnet is on and I had planned to fake lights for the time being, but my inspection has expired and the old color is really obvious, so I am off the road until I get functional lights.    Bummer.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 09:19:59 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:19:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Strange cranking problem
Message-ID: <BAY145-w30363B2FB4DFAF4E99B7A1C2EA0@phx.gbl>

HI all,

On my Bugeye, I have noticed a strange thing when cranking the car.
If the ignition switch is not on, the car will crank normally, I think for a
stock starter.
When I turn the ignition on, the cranking slows noticeably, seemingly
barely enough so the car will fire.
 Fully charged battery. Car has a generator, electric fuel pump and points
ignition.
Any ideas?

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!


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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 09:26:27 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:26:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
In-Reply-To: <267499.74432.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTimpOaAnQJ3xdY4lL9FaO97i343MFnr8-sQw2vWQ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4BFD4A02.9040305@cox.net>,
	<AANLkTikODGxM88bp0t6paXYPWJwbWTcIXComcLjF_W1g@mail.gmail.com>,
	<267499.74432.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w2880FAAC7D6249B87144EDC2EA0@phx.gbl>

Personally, I don't see this happening.
2 years isn't enough time to get a track built to F1 standards.
Look what's happened in Asia with a couple of tracks.
Love to see it back at the Glen, on the full course, if they were going to do
it, got
to see them once as a kid in the early 70's.
Saw it in Detroit in the early 80's, not nearly the same.
Road America would also be an awesome place for F1, but may
be too far from major metropolis for Bernie and the $$ needed.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:43:13 -0700
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
>
> I am taking a wait-and-see attitude on this. Nothing is signed. Nothing is
set in stone yet. There isn't a track.
>
> Monticello was expecting to need financing of "$100 million to $150 million"
to prepare the track, an existing modern track I might add. In addition, all
of these new F1 venues came about through public funding.
>
>
> Even if this gets the green light, Bernie will cancel anything at the 11th
hour. There is no longer a French GP, the project at Donnington Park fell
apart, Silverstone hangs on by a thread, and Montreal got sacrificed, albeit
temporarily.
>
> So maybe this will happen and maybe it won't. I wouldn't be too anxious to
anticipate which grandstand seats I want before the announce the 2012 calendar
next year.
>
> jay
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Gowins <eric.t.cartman at gmail.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:28:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Formula 1 returning to the US in 2012
>
> According the the Austin paper, the proposed site is going to be east of
the
> airport, and the financing was going to be private.  But nothing is certain
> at this time.
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 09:31:08 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:31:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] found on craigslist
In-Reply-To: <2118947281.28673501274875706647.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2118947281.28673501274875706647.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w48F4872D56BA754BE9020CC2EA0@phx.gbl>

The folks at Ragtops and Roadsters hurting for $$?

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:08:26 +0000
> From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Philly_MG_Club at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Spridgets] found on craigslist
>
> nfi
> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/clt/1759356270.html
> _____________________
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 27 09:31:23 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:31:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiln_XmIz8mqffNYUCNG_qoBuXLmgRefFSiX3ijp@mail.gmail.com>

It is broken in the other direction too.  My daughter runs the OB-GYN of a
large hospital outside of Atlanta.  Her annual premium for malpractice is
over $80K.  She takes home about $25K after the malpractice premium. She
says it is a racket but after 2 lawsuits she doesn't dare *not* carry the
insurance.  A lot of people think the doctors and nurses are getting all
that money.  They aren't.  It's the insurance companies and most especially
the lawyers.

Also, if you need emergency (immediate) care, remember that you are paying
for not only your treatment but the treatment of several other people as
well. They are the people who don't use a primary care physician. When they
need treatment for whatever they go straight to the immediate care facility
(ER or whatever). They have no insurance even if they could afford it and no
savings. They know that the law says the facility cannot turn them away and
that YOU will pay for them.

That's how the politicians (mostly lawyers) solved the healthcare problem
the last time they touched it. IE they take the money out of your pocket if
you are a hard working responsible citizen. That's also why a lot of us are
scared as we wait to see what they've done to us this time!

I saw a great bumper sticker the other day. "Please don't tell my family I'm
a lawyer. They think I'm a piano player in a whore house."

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for
> diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and
> asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country is
> broken.
>
> That is all.
>
> Ron
> _______________________________________________
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 09:32:32 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:32:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
In-Reply-To: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
References: <537A202CC7BE48598DC19194A1EF6553@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w199558479909327C81D4C5C2EA0@phx.gbl>

I've seen orange ones, but not yellow, interesting...

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:32:00 -0400
> From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
>
> In my BE kit's light box, I found one red glass beehive lens with rusty
chrome ring -  Lucas L594 - along with various plastic ones (why yellow?).  If
anyone has a car that is supposed to have glass and wants it, contact me
off-list.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> _______________________________________________
>
>

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 09:45:52 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:45:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com>,
	<4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w31A9E80911BA7A33B9D56EC2EA0@phx.gbl>

My wife makes homemade sauce, excuse me "gravy" quite often.
A little different sauce than Spaghetti caruso, but

Quite easy.
Big pot, brown some ground beef, add 2 can tomato paste,
2 large cans of tomato crushed tomatoes, 2 large cans tomato puree,
spices, such as, bay leaves, oregano, garlic and some others to taste. simmer
for a few hours.
While simmering, make and fry the meatballs and sausage, then add to the pot.
My mother in law used to add leftover meet from the week, such as steak and
bones,
unseasoned ribs. Stir occasionally, after 5-6 hours, MAGNIFICO!
Makes quite a bit, so freeze the leftover if you want, enjoy anytime!

Delicious!!!!
I'm sure other's have variations of this...

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:26:48 -0700
> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suspension bushes - little arm thing too long?!
>
> Your wife & I must compare recipes someday. I am fixing spaghetti caruso
> on Saturday for a guest list that is growing daily.
>
> Kate
>
>
> Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> >
> >
> > RATS John -:), ya beat me to it as I HAD to go have home-made from
> > scratch paste dinner including home-made from scratch
> > red meat sauce and it was FANTASTIC !!!!
>
>
> >
> > Ed
>

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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu May 27 10:23:19 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J F)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:23:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w31A9E80911BA7A33B9D56EC2EA0@phx.gbl>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com> <4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>
	<BAY145-w31A9E80911BA7A33B9D56EC2EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXtdmoi3OzAjYM89NcwvOTVdPu1zbqAfLONfsR@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:45 AM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> spices, such as, bay leaves, oregano, garlic and some others to taste

That's the purposely cryptic line where all the "magic" happens ...   :-)

Questions for further details at this point understandably are usually
answered with "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu May 27 10:53:09 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Strange cranking problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w30363B2FB4DFAF4E99B7A1C2EA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-w30363B2FB4DFAF4E99B7A1C2EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <201005270953595.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Timing too far advanced, most likely. (or, you've got your foot on 
the clutch pedal)
         Peter C
====
At 10:19 AM 5/27/2010, brian S wrote:
>HI all,
>
>On my Bugeye, I have noticed a strange thing when cranking the car.
>If the ignition switch is not on, the car will crank normally, I think for a
>stock starter.
>When I turn the ignition on, the cranking slows noticeably, seemingly
>barely enough so the car will fire.
>  Fully charged battery. Car has a generator, electric fuel pump and points
>ignition.
>Any ideas?
>
>Brian S.
>Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu May 27 11:06:42 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:06:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tunnel-to-bell housing rod
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C986@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

> I have a few of those if you want one.

>

> Some early 70's Midgets had a cable to keep the engine and tranny in
the car

in case of an accident.  Mid 70's cars had a solid bar which bolted to
the

bottom of the tunnel and to the bell-housing.

>

> Kevin



I would like to get  hold of one of those rods to limit fore/aft engine
movement.

If you have one available, email me off list.

Thanks.

JohnD

From domanicoj at comcast.net  Thu May 27 11:40:14 2010
From: domanicoj at comcast.net (domanicoj at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:40:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Distributor install
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15385.1274957585.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2065216643.27513711274982014713.JavaMail.root@sz0028a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I am at the point in my engine rebuild of putting on the distribuor.B  I will
not use the original dist. but a new Pertronix.B  And I did not mark where the
old oneB was set before disassembly (too much planning for meB  ; ).B  With
the first cylinder set at TDC, where should I set the new distributor?B  Close
is good enough for me to start with.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 12:07:42 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 12:07:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] New Distributor install
In-Reply-To: <2065216643.27513711274982014713.JavaMail.root@sz0028a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <mailman.15385.1274957585.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<2065216643.27513711274982014713.JavaMail.root@sz0028a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpwQkiO4Zwp_8PNoarnHowhxUh8urHSWlHjdsB@mail.gmail.com>

Wherever you want.  Just note where the rotor is pointing and start
the 1-3-4-2 there.
Make sure it is at TDC on the compression stroke.
Easy way is TDC with both valves closed, IIRC.
On the way up it should blow through the empty spark plug hole when on
compression stroke.

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu May 27 13:04:16 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:04:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C988@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Larry,

You're gonna hear it from the gun and teabag crowd!

Duck!!!



Message: 19

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 05:53:53 -0500

From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC

To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>, "Spridgets"

      <spridgets at autox.team.net>

Message-ID: <45821491FBDA471E93D1B3529E0D72C6 at HomePC>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



Ron, my insurance company paid slightly less than $10,000 for my surgery
to

reattach my Achilles to my heel including all follow-up, etc.  The bill,


however, was twice that.  The deal the ins. co. negotiates with the
networks

is incredible.  Now, if you can't afford really good insurance like mine
(my

portion of the bill was a $50 co-pay) you end up paying the total bill
out

of pocket -- in this case nearly $20,000 versus my $50.  And you know
that

if the providers are only getting half of the bill paid by the ins. co.,


they need to jack the prices up for the rest to make up for it.  If you

can't afford the insurance, how in the hell are you going to pay the
bill?

You can't; you will lose everything over a damn doctor bill.  We need

national health care so the less well-off aren't constantly teetering on
the

edge of disaster over this.



Rant over.





LAD

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 14:35:56 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:35:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed
Message-ID: <598515.45517.qm@web46403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hey John, Do know what 'teabaging' is?  It's too dirty explain here.  I'll
contact you directly if you are interested in facts and not this throwing
around words that you don't understand.  Skip J. BE 37109

From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Thu May 27 15:02:17 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 07:02:17 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass light
Message-ID: <008301cafddf$e479ead0$0200000a@Workstation1>

G'day all

Amber (not yellow) lenses were used in the UK and Australia for the rear
indicator lights.  Red was US only.

avagoodday
Colin
www.Spriteparts.com.au

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu May 27 15:23:02 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:23:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Strange cranking problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w30363B2FB4DFAF4E99B7A1C2EA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-w30363B2FB4DFAF4E99B7A1C2EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4BFEE2B6.1000805@comcast.net>

On 5/27/2010 11:19 AM, brian S wrote:
> HI all,
>
> On my Bugeye, I have noticed a strange thing when cranking the car.
> If the ignition switch is not on, the car will crank normally, I think for a
> stock starter.
> When I turn the ignition on, the cranking slows noticeably, seemingly
> barely enough so the car will fire.
>   Fully charged battery. Car has a generator, electric fuel pump and points
> ignition.
> Any ideas?

Timing too far advanced?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 16:02:58 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:02:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where to buy brake rotors for Sprite and, umm,
 a VW Golf at the  same time
In-Reply-To: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E27AA424A@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
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ChrisI happen to have a brand new set of brake rotors for wiresGet with
meBillM

> From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 04:18:32 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] Where to buy brake rotors for Sprite and, umm, a VW
Golf at the  same time
>
> After I posted a picture of my haplessly-attached suspension, a nice man
named
> Bob Walker pointed out that there's a thumping great crack through my brake
> rotor. After pondering whether I might just ignore it, I think I'd better
buy
> new brake rotors.
>
> I also happen to need brake rotors for my '2000 VW Golf - does anyone know
> somewhere on the internet where I could buy rotors for both vehicles at the
> same time? I had high hopes for Schucks but they say "call us" for the
> wire-wheel Sprite rotors and, well, it's 9pm now. I could always call them
> tomorrow, I suppose, but I'm an impatient sort...
>
> Chris
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 16:06:08 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:06:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where to buy brake rotors for Sprite and, umm,
 a VW Golf at the  same time
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--as for the VW brakes, I usually use Drivewire.com for anything like
that.BillM

> From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 04:18:32 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] Where to buy brake rotors for Sprite and, umm, a VW
Golf at the  same time
>
> After I posted a picture of my haplessly-attached suspension, a nice man
named
> Bob Walker pointed out that there's a thumping great crack through my brake
> rotor. After pondering whether I might just ignore it, I think I'd better
buy
> new brake rotors.
>
> I also happen to need brake rotors for my '2000 VW Golf - does anyone know
> somewhere on the internet where I could buy rotors for both vehicles at the
> same time? I had high hopes for Schucks but they say "call us" for the
> wire-wheel Sprite rotors and, well, it's 9pm now. I could always call them
> tomorrow, I suppose, but I'm an impatient sort...
>
> Chris
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From pfeilmat at me.com  Thu May 27 16:34:37 2010
From: pfeilmat at me.com (Matthew Pfeil)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:34:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do
 this?????
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That is funny. I actually became interested in MGs and especially  
Midgets when as an 8 year old kid I saw one in an off road magazine  
that was set up for off road. It was a pretty cherry red and the owner  
was an MG fanatic and just wanted one for his off Road hobby. It ended  
up as a pictorial in that issue. Ever since then, I have loved MGs.

I can't fault the guy.

Matt P

Sent from my iPod

On May 27, 2010, at 4:56 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>  
wrote:

> or this:
>
>
>
> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/1753689240.html
>
>
>
>
>
> <<< 
> <<< 
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:41:44 -0700
> From: "Herby" <herby at herbytoys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WHY?????????? WHY?????? WHY would someone do
> this???????
> To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>, "'spridgets'"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID: <E66FBE0422BB4F24BA4A8F4A19DF3F24 at HERBYZ>
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>
> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/1761109356.html
>
>
> Probably the same (or somehow related) person who did this.
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1756255468.html
>
>
> Herby
> 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
> 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 27 17:36:22 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 18:36:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed
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Hey, John, my job is to throw it out there and then sit back and watch the 
fur fly!

Looks like it worked!  Skip Jackson said:

"Hey John, Do know what 'teabaging' is?  It's too dirty explain here." 
[sic]

OK, you need to ignore the facts that his punctuation sucks, he capitalized 
a word that shouldn't have been capitalized, he took your word "teabag" and 
changed it to "teabaging" and then misspelled it and, finally, he missed a 
word between "dirty" and "explain".  But he did offer to straighten you out 
regarding "words that you don't understand".  You could take him up on that, 
if you have a sense of humor!


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:04 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm pissed

Larry,

You're gonna hear it from the gun and teabag crowd!

Duck!!!



Message: 19

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 05:53:53 -0500

From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC

To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>, "Spridgets"

      <spridgets at autox.team.net>

Message-ID: <45821491FBDA471E93D1B3529E0D72C6 at HomePC>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



Ron, my insurance company paid slightly less than $10,000 for my surgery
to

reattach my Achilles to my heel including all follow-up, etc.  The bill,


however, was twice that.  The deal the ins. co. negotiates with the
networks

is incredible.  Now, if you can't afford really good insurance like mine
(my

portion of the bill was a $50 co-pay) you end up paying the total bill
out

of pocket -- in this case nearly $20,000 versus my $50.  And you know
that

if the providers are only getting half of the bill paid by the ins. co.,


they need to jack the prices up for the rest to make up for it.  If you

can't afford the insurance, how in the hell are you going to pay the
bill?

You can't; you will lose everything over a damn doctor bill.  We need

national health care so the less well-off aren't constantly teetering on
the

edge of disaster over this.



Rant over.





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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu May 27 17:51:55 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:51:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re:  Headlight Relays
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	<362144500.20100527165109@pacifier.com>
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Hello Michael,

     no one else has jumped in, so,

     http://www.directindustry.com/prod/anovay-technology-limited/bayonet-lock-electrical-connector-56927-388603.html

     do a search for "bayonette plug or better yet, cannon plug and
     you'll turn up what you want. .. be ready to solder.

     The problem with ONE universal ground is that it needs to be
     large enough to carry the entire load, and with a couple of big
     bright headlights, like H-80s or H-100's you're looking at a #6
     or #4 wire. The problem with multiple ground points is more
     places to have to trouble shoot when things go wrong, and more
     things to go wrong. Pick your poison.

     As an electrican, I would be inclined to have a separate ground
     for each headlight, but combined for high and low beams, spliced
     in the headlight buckets so that one ground comes back for each
     side. trouble shooting shouldn't be to hard that way.

     Do you want to drive at night with failed headlights? if not
     that's why they're not fused (aside from cost savings in
     manufacturing these "throw away" cars that is), but if you're
     gonna use big lights, do you want a failure in the headlight
     circuit keep the car from even starting, or would you rather the
     car keep running and replace the KNOWN fuse in the headlight
     circuit rather than chasing through the single circuit running
     through the whole car..

     I've heard that the headlights get brighter when separated into
     their own circuits with dedicated wires all the way back to the
     fuse box. This would be the way to go if you intend to run big
     lights. I'd throw fuses into the circuit just to protect the rest
     of the car from bad things coming from the lighting circuit.

     my two cents.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  "I tried to think but nothing happened!" - Curly 





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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu May 27 18:18:12 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:18:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
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It seems it requires a Triumph owner to understand the true mystery of 
Italian cooking. Recipes remain in the same family for generations, with 
the nuances of "some other" ingredients what differentiates Mrs. A's 
from Mrs. B's. Either Mrs. A or Mrs. B. could probably tell you, with 
99% accuracy, what has been added to, or omitted from the other's sauce.

Kate

J F wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:45 AM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> spices, such as, bay leaves, oregano, garlic and some others to taste
>>     
>
> That's the purposely cryptic line where all the "magic" happens ...   :-)
>
> Questions for further details at this point understandably are usually
> answered with "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu May 27 18:30:41 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:30:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <4BFF0BC4.6010005@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Another of the real nuances is the cookware itself. Chinese steel pans don't
yield the same flavor. I'm serious.

Rinaldo Giacomo Soave

--- On Thu,
5/27/10, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> It seems it requires a
Triumph owner
> to understand the true mystery of Italian cooking. Recipes
>
remain in the same family for generations, with the nuances
> of "some other"
ingredients what differentiates Mrs. A's
> from Mrs. B's. Either Mrs. A or
Mrs. B. could probably tell
> you, with 99% accuracy, what has been added to,
or omitted
> from the other's sauce.
> 
> Kate
> 
> J F wrote:
> > On Thu, May
27, 2010 at 10:45 AM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >   
> >>
spices, such as, bay leaves, oregano, garlic and
> some others to taste
> >> 
   
> > 
> > That's the purposely cryptic line where all the
> "magic" happens
...   :-)
> > 
> > Questions for further details at this point
>
understandably are usually
> > answered with "I could tell you, but then I'd
have to
> kill you."
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu May 27 18:36:17 2010
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:36:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
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I wonder what percentage of people "have no insurance even if they can
afford it"?

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> It is broken in the other direction too.  My daughter runs the OB-GYN of a
> large hospital outside of Atlanta.  Her annual premium for malpractice is
> over $80K.  She takes home about $25K after the malpractice premium. She
> says it is a racket but after 2 lawsuits she doesn't dare *not* carry the
> insurance.  A lot of people think the doctors and nurses are getting all
> that money.  They aren't.  It's the insurance companies and most especially
> the lawyers.
>
> Also, if you need emergency (immediate) care, remember that you are paying
> for not only your treatment but the treatment of several other people as
> well. They are the people who don't use a primary care physician. When they
> need treatment for whatever they go straight to the immediate care facility
> (ER or whatever). They have no insurance even if they could afford it and
> no
> savings. They know that the law says the facility cannot turn them away
> and
> that YOU will pay for them.
>
> That's how the politicians (mostly lawyers) solved the healthcare problem
> the last time they touched it. IE they take the money out of your pocket if
> you are a hard working responsible citizen. That's also why a lot of us are
> scared as we wait to see what they've done to us this time!
>
> I saw a great bumper sticker the other day. "Please don't tell my family
> I'm
> a lawyer. They think I'm a piano player in a whore house."
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for
> > diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and
> > asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country is
> > broken.
> >
> > That is all.
> >
> > Ron
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu May 27 18:46:02 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:46:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Which is exactly why you use an old, crusty, black cast iron skillet. 
Preferably one that has been in the family as long as the recipe.

Kate


Ron Soave wrote:
> Another of the real nuances is the cookware itself. Chinese steel pans don't yield the same flavor. I'm serious.
>
> Rinaldo Giacomo Soave
>
> --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>   
>> It seems it requires a Triumph owner
>> to understand the true mystery of Italian cooking. Recipes
>> remain in the same family for generations, with the nuances
>> of "some other" ingredients what differentiates Mrs. A's
>> from Mrs. B's. Either Mrs. A or Mrs. B. could probably tell
>> you, with 99% accuracy, what has been added to, or omitted
>> from the other's sauce.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> J F wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:45 AM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> spices, such as, bay leaves, oregano, garlic and
>>>>         
>> some others to taste
>>     
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>> That's the purposely cryptic line where all the
>>>       
>> "magic" happens ...   :-)
>>     
>>> Questions for further details at this point
>>>       
>> understandably are usually
>>     
>>> answered with "I could tell you, but then I'd have to
>>>       
>> kill you."
>>     
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu May 27 18:54:06 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:54:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4BFF0BC4.6010005@frontiernet.net>
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It's the old Desoto steel bumpers that cause this ...seriously.
...bill in corvallis
============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:31 PM
To: Kathryn Bales
Cc: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC

Another of the real nuances is the cookware itself. Chinese steel pans don't
yield the same flavor. I'm serious.

Rinaldo Giacomo Soave

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu May 27 18:55:37 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:55:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAa_PhbH6J6k70GGH5Su5ocDwBTJ2a_yX1m9ip@mail.gmail.com>
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com><AANLkTiln_XmIz8mqffNYUCNG_qoBuXLmgRefFSiX3ijp@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimAa_PhbH6J6k70GGH5Su5ocDwBTJ2a_yX1m9ip@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0FB599BDF61B4AD09F00731CFF472569@spider>

Me me. To hell with them! I'm in better condition than 95% of the insurance
executives that are determining my health insurance rates. ...bill in
corvallis
==============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gilroy
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:36 PM
To: Jim Johnson
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC

I wonder what percentage of people "have no insurance even if they can
afford it"?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu May 27 19:21:26 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:21:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On 5/27/2010 8:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote:
> Another of the real nuances is the cookware itself. Chinese steel pans don't
> yield the same flavor. I'm serious.

Don't buy chinese stuff. It just ain't worth it.
We don't have any chinese pots or pans, sonme French ones, some Italian 
ones and lots of American ones but Emeril, Paula, and all those other TV 
cooks must all be chinks, their pots sure are.
And George Foreman doesn't look chinese at all but his his pots sure are.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu May 27 19:22:40 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:22:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lost in Austin
In-Reply-To: <771671.79663.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <771671.79663.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B834716F-67A4-4F06-9CCA-7ED51B842FB4@phillymgclub.com>

I remember, we were flying low and we hit something in the air.......

no wait. I remember stories like this coming out of Oklahoma a few years ago.
They were going to build MG's on an old AF base on an Indian Reservation. Same
story different day??

Larry
(PS name the song)

On May 26, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Jay wrote:

> Interesting comments follow this article.
>
> http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100526/F1/100529830
>
> Personally..................I'm not ready to put money on this.
>
> jay
> _______________________________________________
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways,
Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu May 27 19:39:11 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:39:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lost in Austin
In-Reply-To: <B834716F-67A4-4F06-9CCA-7ED51B842FB4@phillymgclub.com>
References: <771671.79663.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<B834716F-67A4-4F06-9CCA-7ED51B842FB4@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinykY9-3zq-J0rlk9ePBRYT5OXCP5YO7IbvBRpl@mail.gmail.com>

D.O.A. 8:25, off of Bloodrock 2.
Bloodrock was from Ft Worth Texas. The song was released on Capitol Records
ST-491 in 1970.
Cover shot was a sepia toned photo of the band, with blood dripping from the
top of the album, over the photo.
How do I recall all this? The record is right here by my side.....

Brad

p.s I personally was more fond of Fancy Space Odyssey myself...


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> I remember, we were flying low and we hit something in the air.......
>
> no wait. I remember stories like this coming out of Oklahoma a few years
> ago.
> They were going to build MG's on an old AF base on an Indian Reservation.
> Same
> story different day??
>
> Larry
> (PS name the song)
>
> On May 26, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Jay wrote:
>
> > Interesting comments follow this article.
> >
> > http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100526/F1/100529830
> >
> > Personally..................I'm not ready to put money on this.
> >
> > jay
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> >
>
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Secretary
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
>
> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
> safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways,
> Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
> screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu May 27 19:43:47 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:43:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lost in Austin
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinykY9-3zq-J0rlk9ePBRYT5OXCP5YO7IbvBRpl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <771671.79663.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<B834716F-67A4-4F06-9CCA-7ED51B842FB4@phillymgclub.com>
	<AANLkTinykY9-3zq-J0rlk9ePBRYT5OXCP5YO7IbvBRpl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <842D8CAE-CA78-4166-A1E5-EE72368C6CB1@phillymgclub.com>

You just know too much oldies!! THought I had a stumper, not a real popular
song.

But you be right.

Larry
(forgot about the Space Odyssey)

On May 27, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> D.O.A. 8:25, off of Bloodrock 2.
> Bloodrock was from Ft Worth Texas. The song was released on Capitol Records
ST-491 in 1970.
> Cover shot was a sepia toned photo of the band, with blood dripping from the
top of the album, over the photo.
> How do I recall all this? The record is right here by my side.....
>
> Brad
>
> p.s I personally was more fond of Fancy Space Odyssey myself...
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
> I remember, we were flying low and we hit something in the air.......
>
> no wait. I remember stories like this coming out of Oklahoma a few years
ago.
> They were going to build MG's on an old AF base on an Indian Reservation.
Same
> story different day??
>
> Larry
> (PS name the song)
>
> On May 26, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Jay wrote:
>
> > Interesting comments follow this article.
> >
> > http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100526/F1/100529830
> >
> > Personally..................I'm not ready to put money on this.
> >
> > jay
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> >
>
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Secretary
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
>
> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
> safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways,
> Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
> screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

--

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.

Dorothy Parker

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu May 27 19:54:39 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:54:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lost in Austin
In-Reply-To: <842D8CAE-CA78-4166-A1E5-EE72368C6CB1@phillymgclub.com>
References: <771671.79663.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<B834716F-67A4-4F06-9CCA-7ED51B842FB4@phillymgclub.com>
	<AANLkTinykY9-3zq-J0rlk9ePBRYT5OXCP5YO7IbvBRpl@mail.gmail.com>
	<842D8CAE-CA78-4166-A1E5-EE72368C6CB1@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik5gSKdxC3zmFGoFxWd0J_uMmT4nlOSiz-Ya2tF@mail.gmail.com>

Being from Ft Worth, they got LOTS of radio play around here with that song.
Plus, Johnny Nitzinger wrote many of their songs, and Johnny had a great
career of his own down here. Played with Bugs Henderson for many years.
Did a GREAT song called Tell Texas.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> You just know too much oldies!! THought I had a stumper, not a real popular
> song.
>
> But you be right.
>
> Larry
> (forgot about the Space Odyssey)
>
> On May 27, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> D.O.A. 8:25, off of Bloodrock 2.
> Bloodrock was from Ft Worth Texas. The song was released on Capitol Records
> ST-491 in 1970.
> Cover shot was a sepia toned photo of the band, with blood dripping from
> the top of the album, over the photo.
> How do I recall all this? The record is right here by my side.....
>
> Brad
>
> p.s I personally was more fond of Fancy Space Odyssey myself...
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>wrote:
>
>> I remember, we were flying low and we hit something in the air.......
>>
>> no wait. I remember stories like this coming out of Oklahoma a few years
>> ago.
>> They were going to build MG's on an old AF base on an Indian Reservation.
>> Same
>> story different day??
>>
>> Larry
>> (PS name the song)
>>
>> On May 26, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Jay wrote:
>>
>> > Interesting comments follow this article.
>> >
>> > http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100526/F1/100529830
>> >
>> > Personally..................I'm not ready to put money on this.
>> >
>> > jay
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >
>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy at phillymgclub.com
>> >
>>
>> --
>>
>> Larry Macy
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
>> Secretary
>> Philadelphia MG Club
>>
>>
>> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
>> safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways,
>> Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
>> screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/forums%0AUnsubscribe/Manage>:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
>
>
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Secretary
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.
>
> Dorothy Parker
>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 23:04:10 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 23:04:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <4BFF124A.3050400@frontiernet.net>
References: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFF124A.3050400@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikvlOMHS4Ega9silaaEgY1GKcrYrVBzPyxc5T-8@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
Which is exactly why you use an old, crusty, black cast iron skillet.
Preferably one that has been in the family as long as the recipe.

Ron Soave wrote:
Another of the real nuances is the cookware itself. Chinese steel pans
don't yield the same flavor. I'm serious.

And yes, you can still buy the real heavy duty cast iron skillets! In
fact, they still make them in the USA and they have everything that
you could possibly want... They even come pre-seasoned now!!! Lodge
makes some really good stuff.

www.lodgemfg.com

You can't make cornbread without a cast iron skillet!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 28 04:49:39 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 05:49:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BFF9FC3.4030202@justbrits.com>

<< ...Chinese steel pans...  >>

Does that qualify as an oxymoron, Ron ???

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 04:51:56 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:51:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Flame Job
Message-ID: <947259.38325.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Looking for inspiration for your "realfire" paint job? http://tinyurl.com/2u4oo7t

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri May 28 05:35:29 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 07:35:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <4BFF0BC4.6010005@frontiernet.net>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com>
	<4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>,
	<BAY145-w31A9E80911BA7A33B9D56EC2EA0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTimXtdmoi3OzAjYM89NcwvOTVdPu1zbqAfLONfsR@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4BFF0BC4.6010005@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w595D8E6552DB9483A6E4F5C2EB0@phx.gbl>

While I'm not a triumph owner...

I do get the nuances of cooking.
Most good cooks don't measure their spice additions,
it's "season to taste"....therefore I can't tell you exactly J, so I don't
have to kill you! :-)

My wife corrected me on two parts, forgot to add the Basil in her sauce
recipe,
and my mum in law used to add pork necks
to the sauce for flavor. :-)
Funny thing was my mum in law wasn't Italian, she was Schvedish and Irish, but
made great gravy!!

I agree with Ron and others, good cookware helps immensely!
Iron skillet for the meat, 6 or 8 qt Farberware pots, need one for the pasta!
depending on how many of the in-laws are coming over to share..wife's one of 7
girls!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:18:12 -0700
> From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
>
> It seems it requires a Triumph owner to understand the true mystery of
> Italian cooking. Recipes remain in the same family for generations, with
> the nuances of "some other" ingredients what differentiates Mrs. A's
> from Mrs. B's. Either Mrs. A or Mrs. B. could probably tell you, with
> 99% accuracy, what has been added to, or omitted from the other's sauce.
>
> Kate
>
> J F wrote:
> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:45 AM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> spices, such as, bay leaves, oregano, garlic and some others to taste
> >>
> >
> > That's the purposely cryptic line where all the "magic" happens ...   :-)
> >
> > Questions for further details at this point understandably are usually
> > answered with "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."
> > _______________________________________________
> >

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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Fri May 28 08:22:35 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:22:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Flame Job
In-Reply-To: <947259.38325.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100528142235.8WQSI.616443.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>

Here is a less real flame job that I saw at a recent show:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2582b.jpg


> Looking for inspiration for your "realfire" paint job? http://tinyurl.com/2u4oo7t

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri May 28 08:30:16 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:30:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Strange cranking problem
In-Reply-To: <201005270953595.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <BAY145-w30363B2FB4DFAF4E99B7A1C2EA0@phx.gbl>,
	<201005270953595.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w62C4BF8EEF7A2F6461F2F5C2EB0@phx.gbl>

I try not to have my foot on the clutch pedal when starting it,
moving the distributor a little to the left doesn't make much of a
difference,
it's between 12:30 and 1 o'clock position.
Gonna try and clean up the ground contact's and see if that helps.

Thanks

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:53:09 -0500
> To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: peter at nosimport.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Strange cranking problem
>
> Timing too far advanced, most likely. (or, you've got your foot on
> the clutch pedal)
>          Peter C
> ====
> At 10:19 AM 5/27/2010, brian S wrote:
> >HI all,
> >
> >On my Bugeye, I have noticed a strange thing when cranking the car.
> >If the ignition switch is not on, the car will crank normally, I think for
a
> >stock starter.
> >When I turn the ignition on, the cranking slows noticeably, seemingly
> >barely enough so the car will fire.
> >  Fully charged battery. Car has a generator, electric fuel pump and
points
> >ignition.
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Brian S.
> >Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>

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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri May 28 08:43:59 2010
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:43:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Flame Job
In-Reply-To: <20100528142235.8WQSI.616443.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>
References: <947259.38325.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<20100528142235.8WQSI.616443.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimI_xJVuAmlO2ZXUlr9F2m3dl1rPNKHD2-7JD3r@mail.gmail.com>

Not my cup of tea, but I can appreciate the workmanship.


On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:22 AM, <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> Here is a less real flame job that I saw at a recent show:
>
> http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2582b.jpg
>
>
> > Looking for inspiration for your "realfire" paint job?
> http://tinyurl.com/2u4oo7t
> _______________________________________________
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri May 28 09:49:58 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:49:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Flame Job
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimI_xJVuAmlO2ZXUlr9F2m3dl1rPNKHD2-7JD3r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <947259.38325.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<20100528142235.8WQSI.616443.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>
	<AANLkTimI_xJVuAmlO2ZXUlr9F2m3dl1rPNKHD2-7JD3r@mail.gmail.com>
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That reminds me of the youtube video of the jackass who was about to
get new tires on his newer Vette and decided he'd video the trashing
of the old tires.
He revved and dumped the clutch and though he was toasting the tires.
I think the traction control got him.  NSFW "F" word near the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ6atGhmVU8

From lists at dinospider.com  Fri May 28 09:58:15 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:58:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] another Chinese Item...Jaguar
Message-ID: <4BFFE817.8010702@dinospider.com>

  First paragraph the guy says they "need to build", uh ? what ? why 
does someone need build cars in China ?

  I am quite surprised that Jaguar would move productions facilities to 
China, not all of them as they say they will still build in the UK but 
once some cars are built in China the rest will follow or Jaguar will 
cease to exist, which one will happen first ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10182092.stm

     Mike

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri May 28 10:32:49 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:32:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Lost in Austin
Message-ID: <546672.8693.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Another story and consistent with previous stories, one not polluted by details.

 http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83928jay




________________________________
From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 1:32:13 PM
Subject: Lost in Austin


Interesting comments follow this article.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100526/F1/100529830

Personally..................I'm not ready to put money on this.

 jay

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri May 28 11:23:16 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:23:16 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Flame Job
Message-ID: <17333.7ead0ae8.39315604@aol.com>

'The fire was extinguished before it could spread' - Spread to what?   
Other cars, houses?  
 
My car has 2 fire extinguishes - a plumbed in and a hand held.  If the  car 
had a fibreglass/carbon fibre front I'd probably up the size of one of them 
 (they are already UK race legal sizes).
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 28/05/2010 11:54:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
healeyrick at yahoo.com writes:

Looking  for inspiration for your "realfire" paint job?  
http://tinyurl.com/2u4oo7t

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy  Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri May 28 11:27:21 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:27:21 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Flame Job
Message-ID: <17657.2697057.393156f9@aol.com>

You'd have thought the absence of the rear end squirming around might have  
been a hint?  Or, the quite difference smell of burning rubber compared to  
burning clutch.
 
In a message dated 28/05/2010 16:54:26 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com 
 writes:

He  revved and dumped the clutch and though he was toasting the tires.
I think  the traction control got him.  NSFW "F" word near the  end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ6atGhmVU8

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri May 28 11:34:00 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:34:00 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Burnout no LBC
Message-ID: <17b24.5f9c59b1.39315888@aol.com>

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbnXng_3w8c&feature=channel_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbnXng_3w8c&feature=channel) 
 
Well the wheels spun ok here but....

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Fri May 28 14:22:55 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:22:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A little parts humor to brighten your day.
Message-ID: <4C00261F.4030903@cox.net>

I got two front caliper seal kits from Moss today. The label reads thusly:

071-514
GRK5008
Seals Caliper S&M
Made in: UK

They certainly got the S&M part right.

Can anyone share some wisdom regarding the installation of the dust seal 
retainers without screwing them up?

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri May 28 14:59:31 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:59:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w595D8E6552DB9483A6E4F5C2EB0@phx.gbl>
References: <921145.57014.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<4BFC8A7E.7020503@justbrits.com>
	<4BFC94F8.3070708@frontiernet.net>,
	<BAY145-w31A9E80911BA7A33B9D56EC2EA0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTimXtdmoi3OzAjYM89NcwvOTVdPu1zbqAfLONfsR@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4BFF0BC4.6010005@frontiernet.net>
	<BAY145-w595D8E6552DB9483A6E4F5C2EB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C002EB3.4080401@frontiernet.net>

Measure???  My mother was Irish, Native American, and German, and my dad 
was 100% Irish. I make lousy gravy, but I add enough mushrooms to it to 
make it edible. One of my dad's sisters married an Italian who owned a 
restaurant in Bridgeport, CT, so that is how she learned to cook 
Italian. My German recipes are all old family also.

Kate



brian S wrote:
> While I'm not a triumph owner...
>
> I do get the nuances of cooking.
> Most good cooks don't measure their spice additions,
> it's "season to taste"....therefore I can't tell you exactly J, so I 
> don't have to kill you! :-)
>
> My wife corrected me on two parts, forgot to add the Basil in her 
> sauce recipe,
> and my mum in law used to add pork necks to the sauce for flavor. :-)
> Funny thing was my mum in law wasn't Italian, she was Schvedish and 
> Irish, but made great gravy!!
>
> I agree with Ron and others, good cookware helps immensely!
> Iron skillet for the meat, 6 or 8 qt Farberware pots, need one for the 
> pasta!
> depending on how many of the in-laws are coming over to share..wife's 
> one of 7 girls!
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:18:12 -0700
> > From: kgb at frontiernet.net
> > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
> >
> > It seems it requires a Triumph owner to understand the true mystery of
> > Italian cooking. Recipes remain in the same family for generations, 
> with
> > the nuances of "some other" ingredients what differentiates Mrs. A's
> > from Mrs. B's. Either Mrs. A or Mrs. B. could probably tell you, with
> > 99% accuracy, what has been added to, or omitted from the other's sauce.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > J F wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:45 AM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> spices, such as, bay leaves, oregano, garlic and some others to taste
> > >>
> > >
> > > That's the purposely cryptic line where all the "magic" happens 
> ... :-)
> > >
> > > Questions for further details at this point understandably are usually
> > > answered with "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 28 15:12:49 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:12:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Flame Job
In-Reply-To: <17657.2697057.393156f9@aol.com>
References: <17657.2697057.393156f9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C0031D1.8060405@justbrits.com>

<< Or, the quite difference smell of burning rubber compared
to burning clutch. >>

Guess his nose was right next to his "brain", Daniel.
Stuck up his A** ?!?!?

<G>

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 28 15:14:45 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:14:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Burnout no LBC
In-Reply-To: <17b24.5f9c59b1.39315888@aol.com>
References: <17b24.5f9c59b1.39315888@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C003245.7020206@justbrits.com>

I kinda like this one, Daniel !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcFy-vDXNiI&NR=1

<VBG> !!

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri May 28 15:19:29 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:19:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Mathematical Christmas Greeting?
Message-ID: <AFAF1A9A-4216-4657-AD60-2A6FF59412BA@comcast.net>

Ok, I can't find it and I am certain that one of the folks in this group had
it.  It was an equation that when solved was merry xmas..

Thanks

Lester

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri May 28 15:29:04 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 22:29:04 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] another Chinese Item...Jaguar
References: <4BFFE817.8010702@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <2C0AF2E61E8944D08BAA51FEB2FAE901@user8634b3d69b>

Mike,
Check out just how many motoring manufacturers have partnership that build 
in China.  You may well be surprised.
Wiki list around 13 joint ventures with other manufacturers and around 18 
domestic makes.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_industry_in_China
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Jaguar don't sell all of their Chinese 
built cars over there or to the eastern market.  The potential market is 
around 3 fold of that in the US and in today's world it is a sound 
commercial step.

And don't forget the future - where are most of today's rare earth magnet 
ores found for future electric cars?

Guy R Day



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Rambour" <lists at dinospider.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 4:58 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] another Chinese Item...Jaguar


>  First paragraph the guy says they "need to build", uh ? what ? why does 
> someone need build cars in China ?
>
>  I am quite surprised that Jaguar would move productions facilities to 
> China, not all of them as they say they will still build in the UK but 
> once some cars are built in China the rest will follow or Jaguar will 
> cease to exist, which one will happen first ?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10182092.stm
>
>     Mike
> _______________________________________________
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri May 28 16:19:12 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 15:19:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Mathematical Christmas Greeting?
In-Reply-To: <AFAF1A9A-4216-4657-AD60-2A6FF59412BA@comcast.net>
References: <AFAF1A9A-4216-4657-AD60-2A6FF59412BA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <188B7044D1CB4603B20FC8EA1A6111AB@spider>

http://www.mathworks.co.uk/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/138481

 

==================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 2:19 PM
To: vSAAB at yahoogroups.com; Spridget Group Chat
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Mathematical Christmas Greeting?

 

Ok, I can't find it and I am certain that one of the folks in this group had

it.  It was an equation that when solved was merry xmas..

 

Thanks

 

Lester

_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri May 28 16:56:10 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:56:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] A little parts humor to brighten your day.
In-Reply-To: <4C00261F.4030903@cox.net>
References: <4C00261F.4030903@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4C004A0A.7030202@comcast.net>

On 5/28/2010 4:22 PM, David Ambrose wrote:
> I got two front caliper seal kits from Moss today.

> Can anyone share some wisdom regarding the installation of the dust seal
> retainers without screwing them up?
>

Never EVER buy from Moss.
They policy is "File to fit"
So I guess you have to start filing the retainers so they fit.
At least hit them with a grind stone and chamfer the edges.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri May 28 22:46:31 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 00:46:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Burnout no LBC
In-Reply-To: <4C003245.7020206@justbrits.com>
References: <17b24.5f9c59b1.39315888@aol.com> <4C003245.7020206@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <824395DF45D444A692C6EC0D23A599C0@blackbox2>

I think this one is the best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3So0U1BMQ&feature=related

Proof positive that some people just don't deserve a Corvette ZR-1

Searching youtube for anything "gone bad" is my new past time.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shop at " Just Brits
"
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 5:15 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Burnout no LBC

I kinda like this one, Daniel !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcFy-vDXNiI&NR=1

<VBG> !!
_______________________________________________

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 29 07:03:01 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:03:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Not exactly LBC but technical...My H.S. Robotics Club
 Underwater Robot Competition Update
Message-ID: <AANLkTin76sn42zytxns2pxle-nHy7rMQwEZc5JlOfOuH@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I have been so busy at school with clubs and exams that I didn't give an
update on our competition and some have been interested. Also this will show
you all why my poor little Sprite has been so neglected as this club takes
an extra 5 hrs a day after school with the kids for months, we started in
October. The coolest thing this year was hooking up with my sister school
(welding shop) and being able to TIG weld the frame which was  stainless
steel. This frame will last till I retire and then some : ) The most time
consuming thing was programing Arduino microprocessor chips to control
joysticks  and sealing the waterproof box. Being we placed 3rd overall vs
1st place overall like last year we have started the 2011 redesign last
week.

Enjoy,

Update info from Villanova University, Robotics MATE ROV competition.

We won in 4 categories;

Best Engineering Design for Underwater Robot; $50.00
3rd place Technical Report; Trophy
1st place Technical Presentation, Robot Build & Technical Poster/Display;
Trophy
3rd place Overall Underwater Competition; Bronze Medallions for each student
attending

We needed 2nd or 3rd place Overall Underwater Competition for the trip to
Hawaii, but I am not too sad as we didn't have the money to go and maybe one
or 2 kids could spend personal money making it hard on all.
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 29 07:25:18 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:25:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update....problem solved cable to  solenoid
In-Reply-To: <47D1A44EF063455D8A3811F71B99EE42@dell1>
References: <AANLkTin3lHoZS5AYATugPx0qSfrHxckIK6QR0jAxGXeh@mail.gmail.com>
	<47D1A44EF063455D8A3811F71B99EE42@dell1>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYDIAHCM4q1U3lFwxhdUcjxuzUw-1z1wd39E3a@mail.gmail.com>

Biff,
I do have an oval solenoid more like elliptical sorry for the confusion,
I'll do the adjustment and the ground cable repair as well as make a battery
hold down, yes I recall Franks wooden one and I actually like it best
because of the non electrical contact method I'll get that size from Frank
and make one from some old hardwood floor wood I have.

As for the AN5 manual is that the blue hand book? I'll look for mine in the
garage.
Thanks Lin

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:

> Lin,
>
> Your square solenoid probably isn't a "stock" one, as the solenoids used on
> all the early cars were an extended oval shape with flat fronts and backs
> and were mounted just inboard of the heater fan on the very edge of the
> passenger footwell. On the original solenoids the cable pull wire went into
> a fitting on the rear of the solenoid and had a set screw holding the wire
> from the starter pull. If yours isn't pulling enough to activate the
> solenoid adjust the cable by snipping off a little (1/8th inch) reconnect it
> and try and see if that fixes it. If not repeat until it does.
>
> Battery hold down bar;  you can make your own.  I used a piece of aluminum
> "L" stock 1" x 1" x 3/16ths with holes drilled on the ends for the "J" hold
> down bolts. The "J" bolts came from a battery hold down kit from an auto
> parts store.  Frank made his bar from wood, sanded, stained, and varnished.
>
> If you have an original or reprint of the AN5 manual in section "M", fig
> M.11 The starter switch, there is a drawing of the solenoid. Unfortunately
> just a drawing and no instructions.
>
> Biff

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 29 07:32:01 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:32:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <31945.29931.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <0303888288CE4ADDB8074948DBCEDDDE@OwnerPC>
	<31945.29931.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimylH7c0BXbzvtAfJCNqg3J_MAACM2J2N6WicDj@mail.gmail.com>

Cool to know John, I'm glad you bought one of Alan's, I may do the same if I
don't find a bonnet like Frank's Speedwell in the not so distant future ; )

I'll keep this all in mind when I buy mine. Can you update us on the install
along with before and after photos?
Lin

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:38 AM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> For months I planned to transport one of Alan's fiberglass bonnets home on
> the
> roof rack of my Ford Explorer. Little did I know how that odd shaped sail
> would turn the Explorer into an ill handling piece of crap around 65-70
> mph. I
> can almost hear the exploder jokes already.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/24/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
> To: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:27 AM
>
> John,
> Ya gotta get there on Thursday for the really "primo" stuff ;)
> I'm just glad I didn't bring a bigger car, or a truck this year.  Several
> times I caught myself looking at something and thinking "I'll offer the guy
> $xx.xx for that and I bet he'll take it, before my mind moved to the next
> step
> in the process: You're gonna get it home HOW?  Funny how you don't really
> need
> stuff that doesn't fit in what you happen to be driving that day ;)
> Bud Osbourne
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
>
>
> > I had an enjoyable weekend at Carlisle. It was good to meet some more
> list
> > members and gather for lunch. Next year we must organize early to have a
> shot
> > at the best deals. I don't have any more room, and I am not looking for a
> car,
> > but I would have been back with my trailer for the $500 vintage Bugeye
> race
> > car that was scarfed up early Thursday.
> > John
> > Fogelsville, PA
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/24/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
> >
> > I really miss the earlier days of the Import Carlisle swap meet, before
> the
> > advent of eBay.  It's still pretty good, but it's slim pickins compared
> to
> > what it was 10-15 years ago.
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat May 29 11:55:36 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:55:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikvlOMHS4Ega9silaaEgY1GKcrYrVBzPyxc5T-8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFF124A.3050400@frontiernet.net>
	<AANLkTikvlOMHS4Ega9silaaEgY1GKcrYrVBzPyxc5T-8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13DCEC03-2383-4A4A-BCF8-C7A0EA19EC88@phillymgclub.com>

NOT TRUE.

You can make cornbread with out a cast iron skillet. But it sure a h%!! is not
as good.


Larry

On May 28, 2010, at 1:04 AM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:

> You can't make cornbread without a cast iron skillet!

--

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways,
Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat May 29 12:03:58 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:03:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Homemade Sauce No LBC
In-Reply-To: <13DCEC03-2383-4A4A-BCF8-C7A0EA19EC88@phillymgclub.com>
References: <995628.49119.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4BFF124A.3050400@frontiernet.net> 
	<AANLkTikvlOMHS4Ega9silaaEgY1GKcrYrVBzPyxc5T-8@mail.gmail.com> 
	<13DCEC03-2383-4A4A-BCF8-C7A0EA19EC88@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <-8703394400197001855@unknownmsgid>

I think you folks ate confusing corn bread with corn pone.
David L

From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net  Sat May 29 12:37:18 2010
From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:37:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Watching World Cup
Message-ID: <003001caff5e$02e4d3c0$08ae7b40$@net>

Hi folks,

We ditched satellite TV a couple of years back as a cost-cutting attempt and
don't miss it one bit.

Unfortunately, the World Cup is about to start and we have no way of
watching it.

Satellite want a one year contract.

In the UK, coverage will be shared by ITV and the BBC - they will show games
over the internet but, due to copyright, it is only accessible in the UK.

Here in the US, ESPN and ABC Sports will have it.

Thought I'd see if anyone has any ideas.

Cheers!

From conen at bellsouth.net  Sat May 29 12:57:32 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:57:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update....  (battery hold-down)
Message-ID: <988882.16707.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Back when my Spridget ran...
I made my battery hold down out of pvc pipe.  I just cut a 1/4 section out of the circumference for the length of the battery so it would hold snugly to the corner of the battery.  Non-conducting and less likely to split than wood, since I like to over tighten things. ;-) 
  Ed in NC

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sat May 29 13:18:00 2010
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 19:18:00 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Disassembly for poor-tisserie
Message-ID: <1742301263-1275160681-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2136755469-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I'm getting ready to roll the car to its side for floor replacement.  I assume all wheels and suspension should go.  Is there a one-peice removal method for the fronts, or do they come off one piece at a time?
Thanks 
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat May 29 13:33:05 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 19:33:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Burnout no LBC
In-Reply-To: <824395DF45D444A692C6EC0D23A599C0@blackbox2>
References: <17b24.5f9c59b1.39315888@aol.com> <4C003245.7020206@justbrits.com>,
	<824395DF45D444A692C6EC0D23A599C0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w15975A0C78B5802A161FC2B8EC0@phx.gbl>

With all those people around ... no-one thought to tell him to stand down?



> From: dlh2001 at comcast.net
>
> I think this one is the best...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3So0U1BMQ&feature=related
>
> Proof positive that some people just don't deserve a Corvette ZR-1
>
> Searching youtube for anything "gone bad" is my new past time.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May 29 13:51:44 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:51:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Burnout no LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w15975A0C78B5802A161FC2B8EC0@phx.gbl>
References: <17b24.5f9c59b1.39315888@aol.com> <4C003245.7020206@justbrits.com>
	<824395DF45D444A692C6EC0D23A599C0@blackbox2>
	<BAY147-w15975A0C78B5802A161FC2B8EC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilm35VKgezu2eyzzceLNf_RHX8GcOMNsHhgQUA3@mail.gmail.com>

The owner is most likely an arrogant Corvette A-hole.
Otherwise, if they were REAL friends, they would NOT have posted him being
such an idiot on the web.

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:33 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> With all those people around ... no-one thought to tell him to stand down?
>
>
>
> > From: dlh2001 at comcast.net
> >
> > I think this one is the best...
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3So0U1BMQ&feature=related
> >
> > Proof positive that some people just don't deserve a Corvette ZR-1
> >
> > Searching youtube for anything "gone bad" is my new past time.
> _______________________________________________
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat May 29 13:51:59 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:51:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Burnout no LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w15975A0C78B5802A161FC2B8EC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C826BE6F.27786%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> no-one thought to tell him to stand down?
And spoil the fun??

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat May 29 13:53:57 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:53:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Disassembly for poor-tisserie
In-Reply-To: <1742301263-1275160681-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2136755469-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <C826BEE5.27787%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I'm getting ready to roll the car to its side for floor replacement.
This is a perfect time to renew all the bushings, etc. You can turn this
into a major project, and don't forget the rear suspension. Think big!

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat May 29 15:31:18 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:31:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Camshaft end float. WARNING, LBC content
Message-ID: <AANLkTinOIMug_MlrRY4tHxhzDBBc1on4whCg2jHGCJuA@mail.gmail.com>

Finally making progress assembling the engine.   The challenge of the day is
that the camshaft end float is .0125", specs call between  .0045" and
.0085".
Situation is
New oil pump.
New camshaft (APT SPVP3BK.)
New thrust plate.
Seems a bit extreme to have .005" milled off the back of the front plate!
How do I adjust?
Hal

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat May 29 15:34:19 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:34:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Camshaft end float. WARNING, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinOIMug_MlrRY4tHxhzDBBc1on4whCg2jHGCJuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinOIMug_MlrRY4tHxhzDBBc1on4whCg2jHGCJuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C01885B.9000002@tx.rr.com>

Would you check your numbers?  It seems unusual that the numbers would 
have 4 significant digits beyond the decimal point.  All 3 of these 
numbers are very small.

> Finally making progress assembling the engine.   The challenge of the day is
> that the camshaft end float is .0125", specs call between  .0045" and
> .0085".
> Situation is
> New oil pump.
> New camshaft (APT SPVP3BK.)
> New thrust plate.
> Seems a bit extreme to have .005" milled off the back of the front plate!
> How do I adjust?

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sat May 29 15:44:46 2010
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 21:44:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Disassembly for poor-tisserie
Message-ID: <647926418-1275169486-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1841248438-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

If I added up all the things it would be a good time to do, I'd have to decide that it's a good time to put it on craigslist. 
For sale one lightly maintained MG. Only disassembled on Sundays.  
No, that won't sell. I guess i'll be replacing all the bushings and shocks!   Seriously, the state of the suspension is actually one of the reasons I was hoping to leave it together.  I knew if I took it apart new pieces would have to go in. But I guess my dreams of slapping it back together for a few drives before winter may not happen.  

Thanks for the help.

Drew
------Original Message------
From: Billy Zoom
To: Andrew G. Payne
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Disassembly for poor-tisserie
Sent: May 29, 2010 3:53 PM

> I'm getting ready to roll the car to its side for floor replacement.
This is a perfect time to renew all the bushings, etc. You can turn this
into a major project, and don't forget the rear suspension. Think big!





Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat May 29 15:53:21 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:53:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Camshaft end float. WARNING, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinOIMug_MlrRY4tHxhzDBBc1on4whCg2jHGCJuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C826DAE1.27796%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> How do I adjust?
How thick is a beer can?

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 29 16:14:15 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 17:14:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Disassembly for poor-tisserie
In-Reply-To: <647926418-1275169486-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1841248438-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <647926418-1275169486-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1841248438-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4C0191B7.90203@justbrits.com>

<< But I guess my dreams of slapping it back together for a few drives
before winter may not happen. >>

A VERY "qualified" MIGHT, Drew <G> !!!

Did you get my PM in the past few minutes ??

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sat May 29 16:35:08 2010
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 18:35:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Beer-can end float. WARNING, LBC content
References: <C826DAE1.27796%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <DD8A926163134382AC7F1C5DCB65024D@universal1>

            > How do I adjust?
How thick is a beer can?
_______________________________________________

    Happen to have one right here - looks to be about 2.50 inches thick and
4.75 inches tall. 'Eyeball' measurements; yours may vary by .085" or so.

    Later,

                                                                             
   CB

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat May 29 17:09:28 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:09:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Camshaft end float. WARNING, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <C826DAE1.27796%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTinOIMug_MlrRY4tHxhzDBBc1on4whCg2jHGCJuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C826DAE1.27796%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilv_wquObfsQs9cKJ4QBjTjAdZd7EyBNvbJDjUj@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

>
> How thick is a beer can?
>

Billy,
I don't know, all my beer is in bottles.  Or, I should say WAS in bottles.
Hal

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat May 29 17:27:29 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:27:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Camshaft end float. WARNING, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <4C01885B.9000002@tx.rr.com>
References: <AANLkTinOIMug_MlrRY4tHxhzDBBc1on4whCg2jHGCJuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C01885B.9000002@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil05l6MMlbFOsRkdUeyq7LmGp1zEyyfDYrvekXW@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:34 PM, BJNoSHOV8 <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> Would you check your numbers?  It seems unusual that the numbers would have
> 4 significant digits beyond the decimal point.  All 3 of these numbers are
> very small.
>
>
>  Finally making progress assembling the engine.   The challenge of the day
>> is
>> that the camshaft end float is .0125", specs call between  .0045" and
>> .0085".
>>
>

O.K., Checked the official BMC manual, cam shaft end float is specified as
.003 to .007 ( took my earlier numbers from Haynes) less clearance than I
originally thought.  Still leaves me 5thou over.

Hal

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat May 29 17:49:31 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:49:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Beer-can end float. WARNING, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <DD8A926163134382AC7F1C5DCB65024D@universal1>
Message-ID: <C826F61B.277A5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  Happen to have one right here - looks to be about 2.50 inches thick and 4.75
> inches tall.
I meant the metal, obviously. We used to use them for shim stock on old
Fords all the time. I once had a Schlitz can with nearly 200,000 miles on
it. It was still going strong when I sold it.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 29 18:45:09 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 19:45:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Beer-can end float. WARNING, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <DD8A926163134382AC7F1C5DCB65024D@universal1>
References: <C826DAE1.27796%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<DD8A926163134382AC7F1C5DCB65024D@universal1>
Message-ID: <4C01B515.2040405@justbrits.com>

<<  How thick is a beer can?
______________________________________________

    Happen to have one right here - looks to be about 2.50 inches thick and
4.75 inches tall. 'Eyeball' measurements; yours may vary by .085" or so. >>

VERY good, Charlie !!

I get:		6.48cm x 10.73cm 	or 	@2 5/8" x @4 78"  !!

Eyeballs are good !!!!

LOL

Anon

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 29 19:09:30 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 21:09:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Disassembly for poor-tisserie
In-Reply-To: <1742301263-1275160681-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2136755469-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1742301263-1275160681-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2136755469-@bda895.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4C01BACA.8060603@comcast.net>

On 5/29/2010 3:18 PM, andrewpayne at intrex.net wrote:
> I'm getting ready to roll the car to its side for floor replacement.  I assume all wheels and suspension should go.  Is there a one-peice removal method for the fronts, or do they come off one piece at a time?

I have found that keeping the wheels on the car keep it more stable when 
you tip it on it's side.
But I do not have a rotisserie, I just flip it up on it's side on the 
floor. (Saves space ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 21:05:16 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:05:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asgeirsson - update
Message-ID: <26001.46883.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Paul Asgeirsson - update
 
Our buddy Paul has now been relocated to Escondido, Ca.
 
His new information
 
Address:

Las Villas Del Norte Retirement Community
1325 Las Villas Way
Escondido, CA 92026-1946
 
You need to contact A family member for clearance to see Paul.
 
Here is from my Visit yesterday.........
 
Paul was speaking very well and showed a big improvement over two weeks ago.
He is walking with out a cane - His memory seems to have shown some
improvement too.
We talked for several hours, Watched a little TV and then had dinner
together.
He had his Minor Million, Traveler & Hard top models on the table next to the
TV. 
Paul walked me out & was pleasantly surprised i had driven the Morris Tourer.
He asked questions about my tourer like if i had a 5 speed and a few other
things..
He was very happy to have company and see the the Morris Minor..
 
Here is the plan -
 
There is a nice park with a lake in the Escondido area.
How many people would like to meet at Dixson Lake & see Paul.
It would give every one a chance to drive there cars & have a picnic.
Paul would love to see all of you and your cars.
 
Tom A is thinking of having a picnic around Paul's Birthday - June 11.
They are trying to confirm a doctors appointment -
So the Date is not confirmed yet for picnic. - i should have it soon.
The park lets seniors in for free - Motorcycles & cars -  $5
If enough people are interested I will reserve a picnic area.
 
 Vigil

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 21:15:12 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:15:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Camshaft end float. WARNING, LBC content
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilv_wquObfsQs9cKJ4QBjTjAdZd7EyBNvbJDjUj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <582294.80856.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This happens a lot - I've had this freakout once or twice, and it pops up on
the list every year or two. I forget the exact deal, but it's non-intuitive
and the book is wrong - put it all together with the plate sprocket and it
will be OK. 

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

>
From: Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Camshaft
end float. WARNING, LBC content
> To: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010,
6:09 PM
> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM,
> Billy Zoom
<billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > How thick is a beer can?
> >
>
> Billy,
> I don't know, all my beer is in bottles.  Or, I should
> say WAS in
bottles.
> Hal
> _______________________________________________
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From bkitterer at me.com  Sat May 29 23:46:53 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 22:46:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asgeirsson - update
In-Reply-To: <26001.46883.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <26001.46883.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AB7A9132-8570-4A66-85C6-4DF726915843@me.com>

Thanks for the update.  Although my cars are not running count me in for the picnic.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage

On May 29, 2010, at 8:05 PM, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:

> 
> Paul Asgeirsson - update
> 
> Our buddy Paul has now been relocated to Escondido, Ca.
> 
> His new information
> 
> Address:
> 
> Las Villas Del Norte Retirement Community
> 1325 Las Villas Way
> Escondido, CA 92026-1946
> 
> You need to contact A family member for clearance to see Paul.
> 
> Here is from my Visit yesterday.........
> 
> Paul was speaking very well and showed a big improvement over two weeks ago.
> He is walking with out a cane - His memory seems to have shown some
> improvement too.
> We talked for several hours, Watched a little TV and then had dinner
> together.
> He had his Minor Million, Traveler & Hard top models on the table next to the
> TV. 
> Paul walked me out & was pleasantly surprised i had driven the Morris Tourer.
> He asked questions about my tourer like if i had a 5 speed and a few other
> things..
> He was very happy to have company and see the the Morris Minor..
> 
> Here is the plan -
> 
> There is a nice park with a lake in the Escondido area.
> How many people would like to meet at Dixson Lake & see Paul.
> It would give every one a chance to drive there cars & have a picnic.
> Paul would love to see all of you and your cars.
> 
> Tom A is thinking of having a picnic around Paul's Birthday - June 11.
> They are trying to confirm a doctors appointment -
> So the Date is not confirmed yet for picnic. - i should have it soon.
> The park lets seniors in for free - Motorcycles & cars -  $5
> If enough people are interested I will reserve a picnic area.
> 
> Vigil
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 29 23:49:23 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 00:49:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asgeirsson - update
In-Reply-To: <AB7A9132-8570-4A66-85C6-4DF726915843@me.com>
References: <26001.46883.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AB7A9132-8570-4A66-85C6-4DF726915843@me.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin0tOZuuJZ8UIT6iXe-0fQW-Z-npDjt-mf4lA3r@mail.gmail.com>

Wish I could be there to see Paul but, alas, too far away...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the update.  Although my cars are not running count me in for
> the picnic.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> 2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage
>
> On May 29, 2010, at 8:05 PM, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Paul Asgeirsson - update
> >
> > Our buddy Paul has now been relocated to Escondido, Ca.
> >
> > His new information
> >
> > Address:
> >
> > Las Villas Del Norte Retirement Community
> > 1325 Las Villas Way
> > Escondido, CA 92026-1946
> >
> > You need to contact A family member for clearance to see Paul.
> >
> > Here is from my Visit yesterday.........
> >
> > Paul was speaking very well and showed a big improvement over two weeks
> ago.
> > He is walking with out a cane - His memory seems to have shown some
> > improvement too.
> > We talked for several hours, Watched a little TV and then had dinner
> > together.
> > He had his Minor Million, Traveler & Hard top models on the table next to
> the
> > TV.
> > Paul walked me out & was pleasantly surprised i had driven the Morris
> Tourer.
> > He asked questions about my tourer like if i had a 5 speed and a few
> other
> > things..
> > He was very happy to have company and see the the Morris Minor..
> >
> > Here is the plan -
> >
> > There is a nice park with a lake in the Escondido area.
> > How many people would like to meet at Dixson Lake & see Paul.
> > It would give every one a chance to drive there cars & have a picnic.
> > Paul would love to see all of you and your cars.
> >
> > Tom A is thinking of having a picnic around Paul's Birthday - June 11.
> > They are trying to confirm a doctors appointment -
> > So the Date is not confirmed yet for picnic. - i should have it soon.
> > The park lets seniors in for free - Motorcycles & cars -  $5
> > If enough people are interested I will reserve a picnic area.
> >
> > Vigil
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Sun May 30 08:05:56 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 07:05:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimylH7c0BXbzvtAfJCNqg3J_MAACM2J2N6WicDj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <418814.50257.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Lin,
The bonnet won't be mounted and used until I start working on a 67 Midget
which is being stored on a rotisserie. I will take pictures when I set the
bonnet on a chassis. Working on  the 62 Sprite now and will soon be ready to
remove the fenders and hood again, so that would be a good time to try it.

Congratulations on your class's performance in the robotics competition. It is
a great way to spend your time, and one day you'll have the time to enjoy
working on Pinky.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
Cool to know John, I'm glad you bought one of Alan's, I may do the same if I
don't find a bonnet like Frank's Speedwell in the not so distant future ; )

I'll keep this all in mind when I buy mine. Can you update us on the install
along with before and after photos?

Lin

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Sun May 30 08:50:40 2010
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 07:50:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Watching World Cup
In-Reply-To: <003001caff5e$02e4d3c0$08ae7b40$@net>
References: <003001caff5e$02e4d3c0$08ae7b40$@net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimBqMelUklFAQDiAE0KIW9ivvbOU9L9kotXD_F_@mail.gmail.com>

In Seattle many of the local bars show the world cup.  There is a place that
is open from 6AM to 2AM and has a ton of football games.

-g

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Adrian Jones <adrianjones747 at earthlink.net
> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> We ditched satellite TV a couple of years back as a cost-cutting attempt
> and
> don't miss it one bit.
>
> Unfortunately, the World Cup is about to start and we have no way of
> watching it.
>
> Satellite want a one year contract.
>
> In the UK, coverage will be shared by ITV and the BBC - they will show
> games
> over the internet but, due to copyright, it is only accessible in the UK.
>
> Here in the US, ESPN and ABC Sports will have it.
>
> Thought I'd see if anyone has any ideas.
>
> Cheers!
> _______________________________________________
>
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 30 09:40:24 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 08:40:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Timing Question (LBC Content)
Message-ID: <207216731.20100530084024@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

       "the book" says that a 1098 should be dynamically timed at
       8 degrees advance at 600 rpm, yet it gives idle speed at 1000
       rpm.  hmmm...

       with the vacuum advance disconnected, what should the time be
       set at at 1000 rpm?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  The Light at the End of the Tunnel Could be a flame thrower. 

From conen at bellsouth.net  Sun May 30 12:27:48 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 11:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - .sig lines
Message-ID: <362847.28885.qm@web180210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Bill L...
>>The Light at the End of the Tunnel Could be a flame thrower.

Orrr...  a dragon!  8-o

 Ed in NC

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May 30 13:34:02 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 12:34:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car check request no LBC
Message-ID: <210470.45063.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Anyone near Petoskey, Michigan, who could go look at a car for me? Non-LBC, but should be an easy check.
Thanks,
Ron

From davriker at nwi.net  Sun May 30 20:33:03 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 19:33:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Timing Question (LBC Content)
References: <207216731.20100530084024@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <47A678937B3446D384631CAF8909DF40@MAIN>

Ignore the book.  Set to 8 degrees.  Drive hard.  If it doesn't ping, 
advance 2 degrees. Drive hard.  If it doesn't diesel, and it doesn't ping, 
You're good.  If it pings, or diesels, back off  until the pinging/dieseling 
stops.  Ideal timing for your fuel/engine/altitude is maximum advance 
without pinging under load when hot.

Dave.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Timing Question (LBC Content)


> Hello Spridgets,
>
>       "the book" says that a 1098 should be dynamically timed at
>       8 degrees advance at 600 rpm, yet it gives idle speed at 1000
>       rpm.  hmmm...
>
>       with the vacuum advance disconnected, what should the time be
>       set at at 1000 rpm?
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  The Light at the End of the Tunnel Could be a flame thrower.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/davriker at nwi.net
>


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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon May 31 13:07:29 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:07:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Watching World Cup
In-Reply-To: <003001caff5e$02e4d3c0$08ae7b40$@net>
References: <003001caff5e$02e4d3c0$08ae7b40$@net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w418382ED7B8C0E52941006B8EE0@phx.gbl>

OMG!  You got off easy on that one!
There's lots of people with lots of ideas on many subjects ... not all of them
good!! :)

Robert



> From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net
>
> Hi folks,
>
...
> Thought I'd see if anyone has any ideas.
>
> Cheers!
> _______________________________________________

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon May 31 18:43:43 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 00:43:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] how long will it take to drain?
Message-ID: <892919159.30534581275353023364.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Happy Memorial day to everyone.


After have a nice barbq with family and friends the skys got dark and it
started to rain.B  I hadB my tonneau on and no cover.B  after a brief 45
minutes worth of torrential downpours i went out to check my midget and found
about 2-3" of water on the passenger side under the seat.B  How long to will
this take to drain/dry?B  and suggestions on how to deal with this to prevent
long term damage?

Ryan

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon May 31 19:04:11 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:04:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] how long will it take to drain?
In-Reply-To: <892919159.30534581275353023364.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <892919159.30534581275353023364.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C045C8B.3070702@comcast.net>

On 5/31/2010 8:43 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
> Happy Memorial day to everyone.
>
>
> After have a nice barbq with family and friends the skys got dark and it
> started to rain.B  I hadB my tonneau on and no cover.B  after a brief 45
> minutes worth of torrential downpours i went out to check my midget and found
> about 2-3" of water on the passenger side under the seat.B  How long to will
> this take to drain/dry?B  and suggestions on how to deal with this to prevent
> long term damage?

Drill a couple of 3/8 holes in the floor behind the seats.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites